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Dr. Strangelove and Goodbye 2020

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Dr. Strangelove and Goodbye 2020

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So this'll be the first one And it's perfect timing because this movie has to do a lot with the end of the world and we're coming to the end of twenty twenty so we're hoping that that dumpster fire is done so really hope. Y'all enjoy dr strangelove That's what we'll be reading tonight. I have a wonderful cast with me here tonight. So i'm really excited so we're gonna get to a right away. So this is dr strangelove This is just the intro. For more than a year rumors have been privately circulating amongst high level western leaders that the soviet union had been at work on what was darkly hit to be the ultimate weapon a doomsday device. Intelligence sources trace the site to a top secret russian project to the petrol fog shrouded wasteland be below the arctic peaks of Skofic islands what they were building or why was being located in such a room remote and desolate place. No one could say cut to purpose in air force base night interior Computer room a phone buzzes. General report sir. Captain bedrick speaking ripper sit says deaths cigar smoke. Waffling through the light of his desk. Lamp is generally speaking. Yes you recognize. My voice mandrake. I do the syrup. Why do you ask. Why do you think i asked. Well i don't know. Sally spoke just a few moments ago in the phone didn't wait. You don't think i'd ask you if you recognize my voice unless it was pretty damned important do you. Mandrakes don't now all right. Let's see if we can stay on the ball. Has the wing confirmed holding at their false failsafe points e confirmations have all just come in very well now listen to me carefully. The basis being put on condition red. I want this flash to all sections immediately condition right sir. Yes jolly good idea. Keep the man undertows group captain. I'm afraid this is not an exercise can excise. I shouldn't tell you this mandrake but you're a good officer and you have a right to know it looks like we're in a shooting war l. Other russians involved sir mandaric. That's all i've been told. It just came in on the red phone. My orders of what. The this based to be sealed tight. And that's what i mean to do. Seal it tight now. I want you to transmit plan are are for robert to the wig plan are for robert. That's it looks like it's pretty. Hairy played are for robert sir. Now last and possibly most important. I want all privately. Owned radios to be immediately impounded. He s they might be used to issue instructions to saboteurs. As i previously arranged air police will have lists of all owners and i want every single one of them collected without exception esa in after. You've done that. Report back to me ripper and his office closing the blinds on the walls of the windows looking out of the base outside a siren sounds cut to airborne. Be fifty two with escort in order guard against surprise nuclear tax american strategic air. Command maintains a large force of beef fifty. Two's bombers airborne twenty four hours a day each be fifty two can deliver a nuclear payload of fifty megatons equal to six times the total explosive force of all bombs and shells used by all the armies in world war two based in america. The airport alert forces deployed from the persian gulf to the arctic ocean but they have one geographic factor in common. They are all two hours from the target inside. Russia we cut to the interior of b. Fifty two machines spring to life as a transmission arrives. Aj kong. i know you're gonna think this is crazy. But i just got a message from base over the crm one fourteen. It dakotas as attack plan r. r. for romeo goldie. Did you just say wing attack plan. Aw yes sir. I have go to. How many times have i told you guys. I don't know horsing around on the airplane or not horsing around sir that's how it the codes. Well i've been the one world fair a picnic and a rodeo and that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard. Come over a set of earphones. Assure you got today's code. Yes sir it is. It's just gotta be something wrong. We we just a second. I'm coming back. Examines the decoded message in the code. Book maybe you better get a confirmation from base. yes sir major majorcan. Is it possible that this is some kind of loyalty tests. Give the go code and then recall to see who would actually go. Ain't nobody ever got the go code yet and old ripa wouldn't be given us any plan. Them reuss keys have already club in washington and a lotta other towns with a sneak attack. Yes sir majorcan message from bass confirmed well boys a reckon. This is it nuclear combat toe to toe with the russkies clowns back into the cockpit. Now look boys. I much of a hand making speeches. But i got a pretty family. Good idea that something. God dog importance going on back there and i got a fair idea of the kind of personal emotions that somebody all fell as might be thinking. Heck i reckon you wouldn't even be human beings if you didn't have some pretty strong personal feelings about nuclear combat. But i want you to remember one thing. The folks back home is a count on you m by golly we bout to let them down. Tell you something else. This thing turns out to be half as important as i figured it just might be. I'd see you're all in line for some important promotions and personal citations when this things over with that goes for every last one year regardless of your race color or your creed now. Let's get this thing on the hump. We got some flan the do all right cut to general Studio phone brings back. Should i get it. Yeah you have to hello. oh yes. General surgeon is here. But i'm afraid he can't come with phone at the moment. Will his secretary scott already. How are you fine and you out. We were just catching up on. Some of the general paperwork will look freddie. He's very tied up with a moment. Unafraid you can't come to. The phone will just a minute. General turkington a general hundreds calling term the call mark freddie general says. Could you call back in a minute or two He said the can't wait for. We'll find out what he wants. Freddie the thing is the general is in the powder room right now. Could you tell you what it's about just a second. Apparently they monitor transmission about eight minutes ago from bourbon. Airforce base right. It was directed to the eighty eight forty third bomb wing on an airborne alert. It decoded as wing attack plan. Are tom to call. What's his name. The base commander ripper to think of everything. The general suggest you call general rule the eight hundred. Forty third air base commander. Oh all communications. Are dead bowl tom to do it himself. Freddie general acid. You could possibly try again yourself i see. He says he's tried personally several times. But everything is dead even the normal phone lines are shutdown. Fred buck what's it look like. Yeah sure it's playing are what's cooking on the threat board. Nothing nothing at all. I don't like the look at this. Read all right. I'll tell you what you do. Old buddy ben. Give elmo charlie a blast and bump everything up condition red and stand by by the blower. Get back to you. What's up -nother women shorts on the floor. where are you going plus nucleus. No i just thought. I'd mosey over to the war room for a few minutes and see what's going on over there. It's three o'clock in the morning. Air force never sleeps honey. I'm not sleepy either. I know how it is. I'll tell you what to do. You just start your countdown. Old bucky will be back here before you can say. Blastoff cut do bergerson air force base night ripper voice booms over the pa. Ready soldiers standing listening yar kami has no regard for human life nod even his own and for this reason. Man i want to impress upon you. The need for extreme watchfulness. The enemy may come individually or he may come in strength may even come in the uniform of our own troops but however he comes. We must stop him. We must not allow him to gain entrance to this base. Now i'm going to give you three simple rules. I trust no one whatever his uniform or unless he is known to you personally second anyone or anything. That approaches within two hundred yards of the perimeter is to be fired upon third. If in doubt shoot first and ask questions afterwards. I would sooner except a few casualties through accident than lose the entire base in its personnel through carelessness any variation on these rules must come from me personally now man in conclusion i would like to say in the two years. It has been my privilege to be your commanding officer. I've always expected the best from you. And you have never given me anything less than that Cut to purpose in air. Force base computer mandrake who has been closing up shop while listening to general speeches general ripper speech discovers a radio inside insider line printer and switches on soft jazz playing today. The nation has counting on us. We are not going to let them down. Good luck to you. All tied to airborne fifty two Soundtrack jen that could be done years. The attack profile star. This is your tech profile to ensure that the enemy cannot monitor. Voice transmission or clamp false transmission to see r. m. one fourteen is to be switched into all receive the circuits emergency phase code prefix is to be set on the dials of the crm block. Any transmission other than those preceded by code prefix standby the set code prefix roger ready to set code prefix set code prefix opie e. code prefix lock code prefix code prefix locked switch oversee circuits to see our discriminators all circuit switch to sierra and discriminators jack auto destruct circuits auto destruct circuits checked primary target the icbm complex at buddha target reference yankee gulf tango. Three six zero thirty megaton nuclear device fused for airborne at ten thousand feet twenty megaton nuclear device will be used if i won mel functions otherwise proceed to secondary target missile complex seven miles east of bar shaw target reference november bravo x ray. One zero eight fused airbus at ten check. Twelve thousand feet bergerson air force base mandrake walks hardly through the halls to with a portable radio playing another jazz to now. Upbeat mandrake enters represent office. It's me sir. Something rather interesting. Just cropped up. Listen to this using civilian broadcasting. I think those fellows in the pentagon have given us some sort of exercise to test our readiness personally. I think it's taking it a bit too far off fellows will be inside russian right out covering in about twenty minutes. You listen to that traffic block. Full of stations. All churning out yes. I thought i issued instructions for old radios on this base to be impounded. Well you did. But i was in process of impounding this very one when i happened to switch on i thought to myself our fellow sitting russian radar covering twenty minutes dropping. All this stuff. I better tell you as if they do. You know because a bit of a state voted group. Captain the officer exchange programs as not give you any special prerogatives to question my orders. What i realized that so. But i thought you'd rather be pleased to hear the news. I meant after all. Let's face it if we don't want to sign of nuclear war. Unless we really have to dewey lisa down and turn that thing loss. Yes what about the place. Surely you must issue recall code immediately group captain. The planes are not going to be recalled. My attack orders have been issued the order stand. If you'll excuse me are saying so. That would be my way of thinking rather well the odd way of looking at it you see. If a russian attack was in progress we would certainly not be hearing civilian broadcasting. Are you certain of that mandak. I'm absolutely pause about the at yes. And what if it is true. Well i'm afraid. I'm still not with you sir. Because i mean if a russian attack was not progress then you use of plan are in fact of your orders to the entire wing. Well i would say that. There was something dreadfully wrong somewhere. Now why don't you just take it easy group in. Please make me a drink of green alcohol and rainwater and help yourself. Whatever you'd like didn't serve as an officer on her majesty's airforce is my clear deep under the present circumstances to issue the recall code upon my own authority and bring back the wing. If you'll excuse me. So i'm afraid. I must ask you the key at the recall code. Have you got the mandy sir. I told you to take it easy group. Captain there's nothing anybody can do about this thing now. I'm the only person who knows the three letter code group that i this you give them to me. Reper- lifts the folder off of his desk and toss aside revealing a blue pearl handed. Forty five automatic. Do i take. It said that you are threatening up rather office. Step with a gun and rick. I suppose it never occurred to you. That while we're chatting here so enjoy ably. A decision is being made by the president and the joint chiefs in the war room at the pentagon and when they realized there's is no possibility of recalling the wing will be only one course of action. okun total commitment mandrake. Do you recall what clemenza once said about war new. I don't think i do now. He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that fifty years ago he might have been right but today worse too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time. The training and more the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow communist infiltration communist doctrinaire communists version in the international communist conspiracy to sap in purify all of our precious bodily fluids cut to war room in the pentagon. Sam is everybody here madam. President secretary of state is in vietnam. The secretary of defense is in laos. The vice president is in mexico city. We establish contact with them at any time if necessary undersecretaries are out here. Of course right now general turkington. What's going on here. Adam president about thirty minutes ago. General jack ripper. Commanding general purpose in air force base issued an order to thirty thirty. Four b fifty. Two's of his wing which were airborne at the time. As part of a special exercise we were holding called operation drop kick now appears that the order called for the planes to attack their target inside russia the planes a fully armed with nuclear weapons with an average load of forty megatons each now central display of russia. One day kate the position of the planes. The triangles are their primary targets. Squares are secondary targets. The aircraft will be penetrating russian radar cover within thirty twenty five minutes emerald targets. And i find this very difficult to understand. I was under the impression that i was the only one in authorities ordered the use of nuclear weapons That's where i met him. You are the only person authorized to do so. Although i hate to judge before all the fax rin it's beginning to look like general exceeded. His authority definitely does far beyond the point. I would have imagined possible. Perhaps you were forgetting the provision of plantar madame plan our plan our. It's an emergency war plan in which a lower echelon commander may order nuclear retaliation after a sneak attack. If the normal chain of command is disrupted. You approved of madam. Must remember surely must recall. Madam when Senator buford made that big hassle about our deterrent lacking credibility. The idea was for plan are to be sort of retaliatory. Safeguard a safeguard. I admit the human element seems to have failed a here but the idea was to discourage the russkies any hope that they could knock out washington or yourself madam as part of a sneak attack And escape retaliation because of a lack of a proper control in control and command. Well i assume then that the planes will return automatically once. They reach their fail-safe points. Manam faint you see the planes were holding at the failsafe point when the go code was issue now once they fly beyond the failsafe. They do not require second order to proceed. They will until they reached their targets in. Why haven't you radio the planes countermanding the goco. I'm afraid where to communicate with. Any of the aircraft's why as you become one of the provisions of plan are provides that wants to go code is received a normal. Ssb radios in aircraft are switched into a special coated device which i believe is designated as crm one for now in order to prevent the enemy from issuing fake or confusing orders. The crm one one four is designated did not receive all unless the messages preceded by the correct. Three letter. code prefix mean to tell me general targets then that you will be unable to recall the aircraft. That's that's about the size of it. However we are plowing through every possible three letter combination of coke but since there are seventeen thousand permutations. It's gonna take us about two and a half days to transmit them on. How soon did you say. The planes would penetrate russian radar covered about eighteen minutes from out man. Are you in contact with general ripper. Know madam no Gentleman preceded off the base in communications. Where did you get all this information. General called strategic air command headquarters. Shortly after he issued the goco code. I have a partial transcript that conversation. If you like me to read it read it do officer s general bor to confirm the fact that he issued the go code and he said yes gentleman They're on their way and no one's going to bring them back for the sake of our country and our way of life. I suggest you get the rest of sack in after them. Otherwise they will be totally destroyed by retaliation. My boys will give you the best kind of start. Fourteen hundred megatons worth. And you sure as hell won't stop them now So let's going. There's no other choice. god willing. We will prevail in peace and freedom from fear in true health through the purity in essence of our own natural floated. God bless you all then. He hung up. We're still trying to figure out the meaning of that. Last phrase is nothing to figure out general targets in. This man is obviously a psychotic. Won't i'd like to hold off judgment on anything like that madame until all the facts are in general targets in when you instituted the human reliability tests you wish should be. There was no possibility such a thing ever occurring. I don't think it's quite fair to condemn the whole program because of a single slip. Ma'am i wanna speak to gentle gripper on the telephone personally. I'm afraid that's impossible. Madame annual targets in. I'm becoming less less interested in your estimates of what is possible ended possible. General spaceman user. Are there any army. Units stationed anywhere nearby. Holson let me check me. Take them told you never to call me here. Don't worry am look. I can't talk to you now. My president needs me. Of course would rather be there with you. Of course it. An only physical. I deeply respect you as even being in some day. I'm gonna make you mrs chargesm. You go back to sleep. But you'll be back here soon as he can or listen to say your prayers a pan. The days of twenty twenty third airborne division is station seven miles at the avocado as men. I want them to enter the base locate general river and put him in immediate telephone. Contact with me. Yes madam madam president. If i may advise under condition read it is standard procedure that the base be sealed off in the base be defended by base curie troops any force trying to enter their would certainly encountered very heavy casualties citizen with. Oh do expect your defense team. My boys congressional side without too much trouble madam. Present there one or two points. I'd like to make if i may. I had general one our hope of recalling the eight hundred thirty four thirty forty third bomb wing very quickly being reduced to a very low order probability to muslim fifteen minutes from now the rescues are gonna make radar contact with our planes three. When they do they're going to go. Absolutely abe and they're going to strike back with everything they got now four. If prior to this time we've done nothing to suppress their retaliatory capabilities. We will suffer virtual annihilation now live. If on the other hand we were to immediately launch an all out coordinate attack on their all their airfields missile bases we stand a damn could catch up catching them with pants down. Hell we got five to one. Missile sperry Is we could easily assigned three missiles to every one target and still have a very effective reserve force for contingency now sex an unofficial study which we took for this eventuality indicated that we would destroy ninety percent of their nuclear capabilities. We were there for prevail and for only modest acceptable civilian casualties from the remaining forces. Which would be badly damaged an uncoordinated federal. It is the about policy of our country. Never strike i nuclear weapons president. I would say the general certain ra invalidated that policy. That was not an act of national policy. There are still alternatives. Left open to us president. We're rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of this nation. Now truth is not always a pleasant thing but it is necessary now to make a choice to choose between two immediately regrettable but nevertheless distinguishable postwar environments one. Where you got twenty million people killed and the other way you get one hundred and fifty million people killed. You're talking about mass murderer. General not more an president. I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair. Must but i do say no more than ten to twenty million tops depending on the brakes and will not go down in history as the greatest mass murderers adolf hitler. Perhaps it would be better madam president if he were more concerned with the american people than with your image in the history books in return. I think i've heard quite sufficient from you. Thank you very much madam president. They have embassador waiting upstairs. Oh good any difficulty. They say he's having a fit about the squad of n. Piece yes that can't be helped having brought down here straightaway. Yes madam. The russian russian ambassador. You're talking about yes. it is general. Am i to understand that. The russian ambassador is going to be admitted entrance to the war room. That is correct. He's here on my orders. Put this madam. But are you aware of what's serious breach of security this would be. I mean he'll he'll see everything you'll see. The big board at is precisely the idea. General that is precisely the idea stains get premier. Kiss off on the hotline interior airborne. Be fifty two survival kit contents check in them. You will find one. Forty five caliber automatic. Two boxes of ammunition. Four days concentrated emergency rations. One drug issued contended antibiotics morphine vitamin pills. Pep pills sleeping pills. Tranquillizer pills one miniature combination lucia phrasebook and bible one hundred dollars in rubles one hundred dollars in gold non-packed chewing gum one issue prophylactics. Three lipsticks three pair. Nylon stockings shoot fellow could have a pre coup weekend vague with all that stuff cutback to war d- decent isky enters in a great coat finishes in contents of drinking glass and places glass. The banquet table covered with an ornate rally. Array of meat. Breads and pies. You don't have any fresh fish eggs. Then they are fresh. Guess i would have poached eggs and bring me some cigars. Please have honest guys. They'll be all for you. You see to it right away. Try one of these jamaican cigars ambassador. They're pretty good inc. You'll know. I do not support the work of imperialist stooges on the comedy stooges huh. Madam president you're not going to let that lousy commie peng vomit. All over us like this madam president. We haven't been able to reach premier. Costa kiss of in the kremlin. They say they don't know where he is and he won't be back for another two hours. D it six five four three moscow. Yes sir you would have never found him through his office. Me madam president. Our premier is a man of the people. But he is also immensely. If you follow meaning. Fine what did you think said. Premier kosov is generate atheist comet. That's what i said nigam president. I floor leader quest that you have these ignorant full removed from the war. Room monthly and turkson form tranquil spat waving at each other pointing a finger at each other. I think they're trying the number track on monthly as he walks towards stains. Struggle begins between And charges cattleman. You can't site in here. This is the war room. What's going on in here. I demand an explanation clumsy full plant. That ridiculous camera on me. You pack your sweets commie. Look at this madam president. This lousy commie rat was taking pictures of with this thing of the big board mr ambassador. This clumsy ridiculous camera on me. That's a damn lie. I saw with my own eyes. This is outrageous. I've never heard of such behavior in the war. Room for madam president. They're getting him on the line to air force base. The attack begins show. Got the hand those commies. Yeah trump's look like real find. Don't they wonder where they got him from. Probably got botham from. The army has more surplus. Okay at two hundred yards if begins cut to rippers offers ripper advantage listening to the fighting in silence cutback to the war room. Alum where you are and that you'll enter the conversation by saying anything that's untrue. But please don't tell him anything more than that alexi alexi. He's beg you. i don't have a phone. Give your phone frank. Governor turret ditsy yet. I've done as you've asked the president i think he's wronged alot. Hello dmitri listen. i can't hear too well. Do you suppose you could turn that music down just a little. Oh that's much better. Yes fine i can hear you now. Dmitry clear and plain coming through fine. I'm coming through find too good then. Well then as you say. We're both coming through fine. Good well it's good that you're fine and i'm fine. I agree with you. It's great to be fine now than dmitri. We've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the bomb. The bump dmitri the hydrogen bomb. Well now what happened is base commanders. Had sort of the willie you a little funny in the head. You know just a little funny and He he went did a silly thing. Well i'll tell you what he did. He ordered his planes to attack. Your country let me finish dmitri. Let me finish dmitri. Well listen how do you feel about it. Can you imagine how i feel about it. Dmitry why do you think. I'm calling you just to say hello. Of course i'd like to speak to you. Of course i like to say. Hello not now but anytime dmitri. I'm just calling to tell you something terrible's happened. It's a friendly call. Of course it's a friendly call. Listen if it wasn't friendly you probably wouldn't have even got it. They will not reach their targets for at least another hour i am. I'm positive dimitri listen. I've been all over this with your ambassador. It's not a trick. Well i'll tell you we'd like to give you air staff of complete rundown of the targets. The flight plan and the defensive systems of the planes. Yes i mean. If we're unable to recall the plants. Then i'd say that. Oh well we're just going to have to help you destroy them you tree. I know there are boys right. Well listen who should we call. Who should we call mitri. The people sorry you stated away. They're the people central air defense headquarters. Where's that too metering. and right. Yes oh you'll call them. I will you Listen do you happen to have the phone number on you. Dmitri i see just ask for information. I'm sorry to dmitry very sorry. Alright you're starting than i am but i am sorry as well. I'm sorry as you are dmitry. Don't say that you're more sorry than i am because i am capable of being just as sorry as you are so we're both sorry all right. A right yes. He's right here. Yes he wants to talk to you. Just a second preview redeem neat yet yet though. Sit on you what what is it. What the foods the mad fools what happens the doomsday machine the doomsday machine. What does that it device which will destroy all human and animal life on earth all human and animal life to Rippers office mandrake is sitting on the couch ripper puts a comforting arm around his shoulder. And drake yes jack. Have you ever seen a commie. Drink a glass of water. Well no i. I can't say how. Jack vodka that's what they drink is an never water. Well i i believe it's what they drink. Jack yes on no account will comey ever drink water and not without good reason yes. I don't see what you're getting at jack water. That's what i'm getting at water. Mandaric water is the source of all life. Seven tenths of this earth surfaces water while you realize that seventy percent of you as water and as human beings you and i need fresh pure water to replenish precious bodily fluids he yeah it is beginning to understand yes mandatory. Have you never wondered why i drink. Only still water or rain water or only pure grain alcohol it that academy dot yes. Have you ever heard of a thing called slower. Dacian fluoridation of water. yes. I heard that jack. Yes well do you now. Do you know it is what it is no no. I don't know what it is now. Do you realize that floor. Dacian is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot. We have ever had to face a window in. The offense is shot through by automatic weapon. Fire complaint that game soldier more rounds rickshaw through the office cutting down the overhead deaths lamp. That's shooting soldier Reproduces machine gun from his golf bag in his closet. He turns off the lights sweeps his desk. Clear with the gun. Barrel placing begun squarely on his desk android. Come here you calling me. Just come over here and help me with this belt. I haven't had much experience with those sort of. I only press the button in my old spitfire mandrake in the name of her majesty in the continental congress. Come here and see me this belt boy. I'd love to come but happened. You see it in. My legs are gone. What i never told you but you see i've put a gammy leg out there. It's shot mandaric. Come over here. The red coats are coming. I'm on terrier of More room when detonated it will produce enough lethal radioactive fallout. So that intend months disservice of the adler be did as the moon. Come on the diesel. Dusky this is ridiculous. Our studies show that even the fallout is down to a safe level after two weeks obviously never heard of cobalt thorium jeep. Know what about kubo. korean Has a radioactive headlights of ninety three years. If you take say fifty ish from in the hundred megaton range in jacket them cobalt thorium j. when they are exploited they will produce a doomsday. Shroud aletha cloud of radioactivity which will inseparable the nine hundred ninety three years. I wanna wanna comedy bowl. I mean after all afraid. I don't understand something. Alexi is premier threatening to explode this if our planes carry out their attack noman. It is not thing a sane man would looms day. Machine is designed to trigger itself automatically. But surely you can disarm it somehow yet. It is designed to explode it. Any attempt is ever made to unterweger it automatically. It's obviously a commie trick. Madam president were wasting valuable time. Look at the big board. They're about to clobber. But this is absolute madness ambassador. Why should you build such thing. Those of us who fought against it but in the end we could not keep up with the expense involved in ziems raise the space race and the peace race and at the same time our people grumble for more longer than washing machines. I'll doomsday scheme. Cost us just a fraction of what we've been spending on defense in a single year but the deciding that was when we learned that your country was working along similar lines and we were doing of they got. This is preposterous. I've never proved it. Anything like that are sourced with the new york. Times dr strangelove. Do we have anything like that. In the works stains interns. Who been listening to muffler Stained stationed at the roundtable slowly ahead in search of strangelove of moment for lease visit. Stomps one foot on the tile floor pushes back from the table in wheels toward the discussion between monthly and decent dusky thoughts. Granted me as an act of weaponry. Such and then. I commissioned last year s that study of these project by the bland corporation based on the findings of the report my conclusion. What that this idea was not a practical down for reasons which at this moment. let's be old too obvious. In you mean it is possible than for them to have built such a thing. Mr president technology quiet is easily with in means of even this new bar. It requires only the will to do. So how is it possible for this thing to be triggered automatically and at the same time impossible to trigger the. Oh look not a missed. Your mmmm i apologize president. My dear a is not only possible it is essential that is the whole idea of this machine. You know the parents of the art of producing in the mind of the enemy is the fear to attack and said because of the automated irrevocable decision making process which lewis out human battling doomsday machine is de. It's simple to understand and competing credible and convincing wish we had one of those doomsday machines dainty. This is fantastic strangelove. How can it be triggered automatically. Madam president this remarkably simple to do that when you really wish you bury bombs and his new limit to the size after that they are connected to a gigantic complex of computer now then a specific in clearly defined set of circumstances under which the bomb exploded is programmed into a tape memory. Bank strangelove within the name is that they ain't no crowd name is it stacy. Each changed it. When he became a citizen it used to be merck work. Dignity krupp alienate. Hush danger yes but the whole point of doomed name. She is lost if you keep it a secret. Why didn't you tell it was to be announced at a party congress on monday. Has you know the pin. You loves surprised to exterior purple. An airforce base firefight continues. Cut you ripper offense. Bullets cut down. Picture frames behind the desk. Ripper standing shoots back at unseen machine or mandrake is now crouching by side. Stay day me. Mandaric repaired mandrake crawl to one side of the desk. All right mandaric. Now eat me. Feed me ripper stands and exchanges fire with attacking troops enemy fire subsides. You don't think we better off some other part of the away below these flying glass and we're okay here mandaric. Do you realize that. In addition to fluoridated water their studies underway to florida eight salt flour fruit juices soup sugar milk ice cream. I scream mandrake children's ice cream got lower it. You know in florida asian. I began now. I felt jack. Noah's nine thousand nine hundred forty six. Nineteen forty six mandaric. How does that coincide with your postwar commie conspiracy. It's incredibly obvious. It's a foreign substances introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual and suddenly without any choice. That's the way. Your hard core commie works jack. Jack when did you first become well. Developed this theory. Why i i became aware of it drik during the physical active love. Yes profound sense of fatigue. H- feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily i was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence. I can assure you it has not recurred. Mandaric women women sense my power and they seek to wife essence. I not avoid women mandrake. But i do deny them. My essence s cut to bergerson airforce base. Firefight settles into a surrender of jackson defending troops at to represent office. Boys must have surrendered the wages. I check this while. there's still time i beg you. Let's for coal the wing. Those boys were like my children mandrake now they let me down. No no jack not a bit of it now. I'm sure the old give you their very best. And i'm equally sure that they all died thinking of you every man jack of them jack. Supposing a beautiful daughter has gone off and certainly none can never be too sure about those sorts of things which will look at me now. Do i look old. Manson clotted look at me jack. Look but i don't. I don't drink. I do drink a lot of why you know i am. What might call a wasserman jack. That's what i am. And i swear to you my voice. Swear that there's nothing wrong with bodily fluids not a thing. Jackie mandaric where you ever prisoner of war one times running very where you ever a prisoner of war. Yes i was matter of fact check. I was torture you. Oh yes satan. I was tortured by the japanese snow. Pretty story more what happened. Oh i know jack difficult to think under these conditions but well what happened was that they got me on the old rent. Goon h. and r. Railway i was laying trade minds for the plenty japanese ups. No i mean when they tortured you. Did you talk a new i. I don't think they wanted me to talk really. I don't think they wanted me to say anything. It was that there were having a bit of fun. This wines strange things as much a bloody campus. You know those clouds outside are going to give me a pretty good going over in a few minutes for the code. Yes does double-take yes. You have quite a point there. Jack don't know how. Well i could stand up under torture. Of course the answer that his boy no one ever does and my vice huge out is give me the code now and if those devils come back and try any rough stuff well fuck them together boy like we just did now on the floor you would the gun and me with the belton. The ammo feeding you jack. feed me. i was feeding you jack. No mandaric i happen to believe in life after this one. And i know that i'll have to answer for what i've done and i think i can. Why yes of course you can jack. Of course you can religious man myself. You know jack. I believe in all sorts of things. And i'm hoping you know fact. Jack rises following ripper. Who's walking around the room dragging their fifty cal when she lets fall. You talked your gun jack. Yes picks up the machine gun and carries it. You know it. High report begins to remove his jacket. Now jack let me take off you. I'll take that for you. Jack takes restricted and trips over the gun. And you know what. I'm hoping jack. I'm hoping you are going to give me the coat. And that's what i'm hoping river enters the washroom and you're going to have a little wash brush up by on a good idea. Always did wonders for a man. A little washington brush up water on the back of the neck. In of makes you feel marvelous. That's what we each. What on the neck of the back of nicole now you i suppose thing. I play a little guessing game with you. Jack ripper shuts the washroom door. I'll try and yes. I'll try and guess what the code is a gunshot rings out from within the washroom mandrake gapes at the closed door drops the machine gun in pushes the door which is blocked after opening a few inches cut to the air airborne. Beef fifty two pilots navigator. I'm ready with the fuel figures. Now we have one hundred nine thousand total seventy nine thousand in mainz and thirty thousand the exhilarates and that works out to roughly seven hours. Fifteen minutes endurance for this time. Yes so captain. I have identified. Radar blip distant sixty miles proximate. Speed mach three looks like a missile tracking us confirms definite. Missile track commenced evasive action right. Missile still closing range distance. Fifty miles in january base of action locking santa target intercept mode. You see him locked. Target intercept mode missile still tracking enclosing distance range forty miles continue evasive action electronic guidance scramble at blue grid missile still tracking steady enclosing distance range thirty miles missiles still closing true unsteady. Continue evasive action range. Twenty miles missiles still closing distance and tracking steady evac range gate on maximum scan range gain on maximum scan range ten miles missile. Char deflecting continue evasive action deflection increasing rain eight miles deflections still increasing range six miles missiles still deflecting range. Four miles range two miles missile-deflecting range one mile. Missile detonated sword voices honorable through the headset income. Kong is jolted. As a shock wave hits. The plane crew scrambles to attend to fires regained control of air aircraft. Spotlit cutoff re select. A central power extinguishers transfer switches boost pumps up feel valves three four and six give me full power. Graph returns straight and level under control cut to purpose in air force. Base represents injury examine z. No pad on rippers desk is covered with doodles and interlocking pattern of words. Peace on earth and purity of essence on earth peace on earth peace on python t o e purity of essence. Only shots shots. Ring out as the door walk is destroyed and the door of the office opens enter bed. Cuanto brandish with m one carbine. Play your hands over your head. Do you think are doing shooting away in here. Who are you i said. Put your hands over your head. What kind of suit you call that fella suit this happens to be an op. Ed uniform sir. and i am group. Captain lionel metric. I am general rebus executive office. Where's general river is dead in the bathroom. Where's the bathroom next to. You wanna appears around the bathroom door and whistles in exclamation luck. I don't know it's sort of stupid game. This is back. But i've got a very good ideal. What a small code we call code is and i have to get in touch with c. a c. headquarters immediately. I said put your hands over your head and keep them there got any witnesses. What are you talking about witnesses. Hey short himself while he was shaving. No look colonel back if that really is your name. It's you that. I have very very good idea. I think i hope and pray you what the recall coot is. It's some sort of occurred theme. He kept repeating is a variation on peace on earth or purity of essence e. p. p. It's one of those. Put your hands up on top of your head start walking. You know that general repair wanted as bad as a nutty macchia and sentence wild wing to attack the soviets. Don't you know that what are you talking about. I'll tell you what i'm talking about. I'm going to pick up this red telephone with connected to that. S c hope for last last xiaohui. I backed by one of your men during this ridiculous fighting picks up another phone right down to discover. This phone has no court at all all right. charlie. I've been wasting too much time on you. I got a lot of wounded men outside. Start walking to be fifty. Two goldie is examining the damage to the radios other radio gears out including the crm one. Fourteen i think auto-destruct mechanism got hit and blew itself up the fires out. Emergency power is on. Everything seems to check. Got all alright. We'll advise roger navigator worked out on rate loss at approximately one six to permit. This gives us a radius of action sufficient to take up primary and secondary targets but we will not repeat will be able to make it back to any base or neutral country however we would have enough fuel to ditch at weather ship. Tango delta grid coordinates zero zero three six nine one now boys. We got three engines out. We got more hoes than us than a horse. Traders mule radio's gone and we'll feel as if we would any lower while we need sleigh bells on this thing but we got one little budge on them russkies at this high. They might harpoon us but they dang sure ain't gonna stop us no radar screen to bergerson air force base hallway marching mandrake repors office at gun point the other way. Where are you taking me. The main gate carl. I must do what you think has been going on here. You want to know what i think. Yes i think you're some kind of deviated prevert. And i think general ripper found out about your perversion. And they organize some kind of mutiny of pre verts. Now move on top of that. I don't know anything about any planes attacking russia. All i was told to do is get general ripper on the phone to the president of the united states. One second you just said the president. What about the president. The president wants to speak to jen over doesn't he. Now general report is dead is not. I am general purpose excecutive officer so the president will lucky world. Want to speak to me while he does a telephone book over there and the line may be open. You wanna talk to the president of united states. I don't to talk to colonel. I got to talk to him. And i can assure you if you don't put that plan way. Stop the stupid nonsense court of inquiry on this give you such a ranking. You'll be a lucky of your end up wearing the uniform of a toilet engines. Okay go ahead try and get. The president of the united states on the phone may drink eight enters the phone booth and close the door. Quantum pushes it back open. If you try any perversions. in there i'll blow your head off mandrake places coins in the slot and dials. This is the captain magic. I'm speaking from the bub. Listen for snakes. Look something very urgent has come up and watching place in an emergency person to person call with president mary. Muffling to the pentagon washington. Dc rosen three dash nine one eight zero no. I'm perfectly serious operator. The president the president of the united states. I'm sorry i haven't got enough change up. Could you could make this a collaborator. Enter equates the call to be placed wealth. Wanna look something just one second opera. They won't accept the call. Have you got fifty cents. Well you don't think. I go into combat with this change in my pocket. Do operator look. It is possible to make this an ordinary ordinary. Well what do you call it. You know Phonebox with knuckles Station to station counts change in his poem. Breast still twenty cents short opera. Hold on one. I should keep you a second journal. That coca cola machine. I want you to suit lockup it. There may be some change in that. That's private property. All can you possibly imagine what is going to happen to you. Offer rame out look at the way of life and everything when they learned that you have obstructed a telephone call to the president of the united states. Can you imagine shoot off. Shoot that's twits okay. I'm gonna get your money for you but if you don't get the president of the united states on that phone you know what's going to happen to you. What's you're going to have to answer to the coca cola. Company turns to coke machine and fires into it chain spills from the coin return slot as wanna benz to collect coke streams from the bullet hole and showers fix cut to interior war room. This is sac. Communications control the recall code. Ok p is being knowledged. Roger by elements of the eight four. Three bomb wing. These are the details missions. Twelve twenty to thirty and thirty eight. A reported destroyed by enemy action. All other missions have acknowledged recall code. This is s e communications control over and out german. Gentlemen gentlemen men president. I'm not said analysis all by nature. But i think i know what's in every heart in this room. I think we ought to just bow our heads in a short prayer of thanks for deliverance. Lord you've heard the wings of the angel of death fluttering over our heads from the valley a feeder You've seen fit to deliver us from the forces of evil and Me ma'am americus calling again. And he's hopping mad cut interior Airborne e fifty two. He'll fall was active engine and engines and leakages increased. Now works out at two zero five estimate rate remaining fuel at eight seven nine zero. Roger confirmed 205 per minute and remaining fuel. Eight seven nine zero cut to interior warm. No no dmitri. There must be some mistake. No i'm certain of that. I'm perfectly certain that dmitry just a second you know what he says. He says the one of the planes hasn't turned back. He says according to information forwarded by our air staff is headed for the missile complex buddha. That's impossible madam. president. I look at the big board thirty four planes. Thirty recall acknowledged four. Splashes on one of them was targeted for puto matrix. Look you couldn't acknowledgement from every plane except the four. You've shot down. Oh oh you says. Hang on a second dmitri. He says they're air staff now only claims three year grasping firm fourth only damage madam president. I'm beginning to smell a big fat commie rat. I mean supposing kiss off was lying about that fourth plane just looking for an excuse to clobber. I mean if the spaghetti hit the fan. Now we're really in trouble imagery. Look if this report is true in the plane manages to bomb the target is it. Is this going to full. Is this going to set off the doomsday machine. Are you sure well. I guess you're just gonna have to get the plane dmitri dmitry i'm sorry they're jamming your radar flying so low but they're trained to do it you know it's it's initiative dimitri you know exactly where they're going and i'm sure your entire air defense can stop a single plane. Listen i mean it's not going to help either one of us if the doomsday machine goes off now. Is it dot dmitri. There's no point in getting hysterical in a moment like this dmitry give your feet on the ground. When you're talking to mitri i i'm not getting not mitri i i'm just worried that's all. Look now if our airstrikes says its primary target is low huda in its secondary target is board cough. I mean it's true. Dmitri you gotta believe it look can i. Can i give you just one more. Can i just give you one word of advice dmitri. Listen dmitri could everything you've done to those two sectors and you can't miss a cut to interior of airborne be fifty two sir. If we continue to lose fuel at the present rate. I estimate we only have thirty eight minutes flying time which will not even take us as far as the primary got sweets. You told me you'd get to that primary. I'm sorry sir. That estimate was based on the original loss. Relief factor not two zero five. I don't give a hoot and hell how you do it just area here. I'm sorry sir but those are the figures will be lucky to reach weather ship at tango delta. Well shoot we come this far just to dump this thing the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity sir. If rate of loss does not increase. We have a chance to reach target. Three eight four grid coordinate. Zero zero three six nine one and possibly make it from there to the tango tangle some weather ship what kind of talkative that anyhow there. That's the icbm conflicts. That loss designating do target three eight. Four gimme a rough head on that just as soon as you have it worked out. Will you tear your warm well. We'll keep our fingers crossed nutri and remember. There's just one thing or all in this together. We're right behind you dmitri. We're with you all the way. Yes well we'll keep the line open all right. Dimitri general targets. Is there really a chance for that plane to get an unprecedented. If i may speak freely rescues talk big. But frankly we think he's shorter. Know how i mean. You can't just expect a bunch of ignorant peons to understand machine like some of our boys and that's not man's an excuse. A madam ambassador. I mean you take your aperture bruschi. We all know how much gutsy as hell look at. Look at them all them nazis. They killed off and they still wouldn't quit. Stick to the point general. I'm sorry say if the pilots could see. I mean if he's really sharp he bear that baby and so low. You ought to see some time. It's a site of big play like a fifty to bloom jet exhaust flying chickens in the barnyard. But has he got a chance as good a chance. A ca to interior airborne to navigate her to captain approaching target distance. One zero miles switch from green grid to target orange roger. Ready for battle bomb. Run check takeover. Ace archer is already bombardier. Ready sir bomb fuse and master safety home electronics bear metrics tom impact on using master safeties on electronic barometric time. Timing impact fuse to ground burst. Delay factor yellow three is ground burst delays factor yellow three bomb fusing circuits one through four tests circuits through four test lights on arming test lights on one to four test lights on one for engaged. Primary trigger switch override or ameritrade swivel switch override engaged track indicators to maximum deflection indicators to maximum deflection detonator set to zero altitude set to zero altitude release. First safety or safety released. I lease second. Safeties that can save released. Second safety check bomb doors circuits wonderful circuits negative function lights. Red switch to backup circuits rajib backup circuit switched in still negative. Sanction engage emergency power. Roger emergency power on still negative function. Operate manual override. Roger still negative function the telescopes. Dr cable must be shared away. The explosive bolts roger Still mega sir. The operating circuits are dead. Sir stay on the bomb run as down the below. See what i can do. Roger on the bomb run boys. I'm going to get them doors. Open if here's lips. Everybody on their creek. Do the hatch to the bomb door. That he's a sparkling. Stay tangle of wires above the suspended bomb and then climbs on top of its fanning the sparks with his Stencil target orange grid. Reverence checks target distance. Eight miles roger eight miles to- metric guidance computer into orange grid metric guidance computer race grid target distance seven miles track indicator minus seven roger seven miles set. Dpi acceleration factor epa diversity factor said distance six miles roger six miles false indent transponder active transponder active distance. Five miles five miles. Bundling alignment factor. Zero zeroed ruling alignment factor two zero mode targeted since four miles. Roger four miles auto. Cdc into manual link. A cdc to manual telephone link target distance three miles roger. Three miles argued site. We're in hellas major majorcan consciously works spice two wires together. He finishes than attachments the alligator clip to the patch panel above his head on doors open. He grabs his tencent to keep it away from blowing away in a sudden Slipstream the bomb is dropped in kong along with it. What about major kong. Conrad's the bomb in a falling. Art weaving his hat. All over the place celebrating success in ecstatic royal smile on reaching the ground the bomb detonates. Come to warm dump president. Then that's what she wa. I would not rule out the chance to preserve a nucleus of human specimens. It would be quite easy. The some of our deeper mines jobs at the bottom radioactivity would never penetrate a minds thousands of and a match of leaks efficient improvements in dwelling space could easily be provided along. Would you have to stay down there. It's the nationals searches within his lapel. G notices singular slide ruler in his gloved hand. Radio acted half. I would think of pasta hundred years on finishing his calculations you put slide ruler roughly from his glove hand and returns within his jacket. You mean people could actually stay down there for a hundred years. Eat would not be difficult and how to. Nick live reactor good. I'm sorry madam president. That's what you are the artist. The by our almost indefinitely. Greek houses could maintain pad lies. adama's could be and thoughts. Who said they would have to be made of all the available mine sites but i would guess that no dwelling space for hundred. Thousands of our people could easily be provided. Well i i would hate to have to decide who stayed up. Who goes down. That would be necessary. Madam president that's when she I could be easily accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be programmed to accept factors from youth health sexual Intelligence and a cross section of neck scary skills of course it would be absolutely vital out talk. Government to new terry man would be included to foster and in part required for instability of assistant slams down left fist right arm raises into a stiff nazi salute restraints. Right arm with left next surely would breed product stay. There would be much time and do but the proper breeding techniques and the ratio of say ten females to each male. I would guess that they could even work their way back to. The present rose national product within say twenty years. Doctor wouldn't this nucleus of survivors be so grief stricken an anguish that they will envy the dead and not want to go on living. Right arm rolls his wheelchair backwards. Excuse me struggles. With wayward arm ultimately doing it with a beating from his left so when they go down into the mine everyone there would be no shocking memories and the prevailing emotion will be one follows net behind combine. With a of bold curiosity for the adventures ahead write our flexes into nazi salute. He pulls it back into his lap and beats again. Glove hand attempted to strangle him doctor. You mentioned a ratio a ratio of ten women two men now when that necessitate the abandonment firm so called monogamous sexual relationship as far as men were concerned. But it is you know. Ah sacrifice required by the you raise i hasten to add that since each man will be required to do so He's lie the women would have to be slanted for their whole act as sticks which will have to be a highly stimulating must confessed. You have don't need good idea that dr. Thank you madam. that's what you i think. We should look at this from a military point of view. I mean supposing the risky stash away some big bombs stayed when they come out hundred years they could take over stuff. Ski begins to walk away from the crowd around strange and the president toward the bank with table more. Just do that as stains. I agree madam president. In fact they might even try and immediate sneak attack so they can take over our mind chef space. Yep i would think it would be extremely naive of us madam president to imagine that these new developments are going to cause any kind of change in soviet expansion policy us. 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Threading The Needle Of Interesting And Informative While You Learn To Code - Episode 283

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Threading The Needle Of Interesting And Informative While You Learn To Code - Episode 283

"The. Hello and welcome to podcast dot in it the podcast about python and the people who make it great when you're ready to launch. Next APP want to try out a project here about on the show lead somewhere to deploy. So take a look at our friends over at the node with the launch of their managed kunis platform. It's easy to get started with the next generation of deployment and scaling powered by the battle-tested Lynnette platform including simple pricing not balancers forty gigabit networking dedicated CPU, and GP you instances and worldwide data centers COULDA PYTHON PODCAST DOT com slash Leno today that's L. I n. od, and get a sixty dollars credit trotter Kuban eighties cluster of your own and don't forget to. Thank them for their continued support of this show you listen to this show to learn stay up to date with the ways that python is being used including the latest in a machine learning data analysis for more opportunities to stay up to date gain new skills and learn from your peers. There are growing number of virtual events that you attend from the comfort and safety of your own home good. A PYTHON PODCAST DOT com slash conferences to check out the upcoming events being offered by our partners and get registered today. Your host is usually Tobias macy and today Mindy Brewing Stephen F. Law about finding a project that you care about eight and learning to program. So Stephen you start introducing. Yourself. Stephen. Lot here, I'm may python developer been doing this for many years since the previous century really I've got an author of a bunch of books through packed publishing. and. Do you remember? Hey, I got introduced a python. It is an odd thing because it happened a long long time ago I was a Java programmer back in the day when Java first came out like I say, the previous century and one of the questions that had come up was, is there a good alternative to Java and I was a traveling consultant I did technology consult thing and you know the question is always what's the next big thing capital letters in bt and what would overtake Java and Python back years ago interested me A. Great deal because it looked like it would possibly be a thing that was an alternative to Java and back in the day your choices were Java and C. Plus Plus and you know a language is like Ifo, which never went very far and modular three, which actually is a little bit of python but you know getting those two run on your home computer in nineteen seventy seven was just a nightmare. These were not really viable things python quick download up and running did everything I wanted It was wonderful and then moving into the new millennium. The one we're in now I used by phone more and more for small consulting projects and like I say I was a traveling consultant. So there were a lot of small projects and every time I wound up wrestling with somebody's poorly structured data. I use pipe on one of the biggest ones that I wrestled with. Was a legacy cobol application thousands and thousands of lines of Cobol Code that had to be looked at to figure out how you could best rewrite it. That was the worst structured data ever because it was source code in another. And then you know after those sorts of things I wound up using more and more for development and things like that. You also mentioned that you have authored a number of different books I'm wondering what got you into that role of writing books and being an author in going through that whole process. The book writing business is a strange thing because I sort of fell into it and then even know sort of whether you could call it like a sideways stumble in business. The problem I had was that I was working on doing some development of a fairly complicated restful API in python it involved actuarial work and actuaries and fair amount of thinking in the test cases were very. Very complicated. So the unit test suite ran for like five minutes and it was boring. So I started playing with stack overflow, and this is in the early days of stack overflow. This is the first year stack overflow was available to the public. So I started answering python questions there because I had time to kill you know five minutes while tests were running times a day and. As a consequence I built up a fair number of points in stack overflow Kinda surprising number at this point in my career and a packed acquisition editor. Asked me. You know, do you have anything more to contribute than just sort of random answers on stack overflow and the answer was a did but it was not like I sought out to become a published author kind of stumbled. into it inadvertently. But because I was a traveling consultant to the whole idea of Oh wait I've got a book and I'm an author and I can then travel around in shop or round python ideas to enterprise consumers was very, very appealing and so I definitely pursued that as quickly as I could because it sounded like it was a lot of fun and a really good career move. It's definitely useful to be able to have some published body of knowledge. They can point to as signaling your expertise in a particular area because it's easier to demonstrate that through publication particularly to people higher up in an organization as opposed to pointing at all of your open source contributions or the projects the contain because they're not going to care as much about that, and they're not going to be in a position to be able to. That for its overall effectiveness or usefulness. Exactly until you're open source contributions, are you know a get hub project with thousands of stars? There isn't a lot of vetting at least not the way there is in the publishing business. So the books, all F. technical reviewers than the technical reviewers have looked at every single line of code every example and complained about everything they can possibly complain about and most of the technical reviewers when you look inside the packed up. Are are pretty heavy duty experts in their own right and so getting past those arguments really polishes up the text a lot but with an open source contribution did everybody really read all that code not necessarily for big projects? Yes and for very popular project, she asked for Small Projects and maybe maybe In addition to your work as an author and as a traveling consultant, you also do some training I understand you've created some of your own projects. I'm wondering if you can just give a bit more of an outline of your overall experience both working with and teaching python. Consultant anymore I was when I started writing. I left that as a dentist sailboat for a couple years, and then I now work for capital one. Entirely in house, and so the training is very much focused on my colleagues at capital one, many of whom are data scientists, some of whom are devops and other more technical people. and. So the training is very focused focused on needs. We have at capital one for specific kinds of python skills ending a lot of cases. There's a sort of a gap here because I'm not a real data scientist and I'm sometimes not even qualified to talk about the difference between a mean and median because I'll get those things confused in a room full of real data scientists. So my focus is on the. Technical side of programming and algorithms and data structures, Python, and those kinds of things. The things I really know well, and we have to work collaboratively with data scientists. So I don't completely mess things up and have them all storm out of the room in off because I said, something extremely dome about data science usually they're polite about it but occasionally, there'll be a break and they'll say you know you really shouldn't. Really shouldn't confused. You know some of these topics that you're not clear on. So that's always been very, very helpful. Wonderful Advice. But finding examples where I can meet my data science colleagues. Half way is occasionally challenging but because I lived on a sailboat, I did a fair number of things that involved data gathering and data analysis and data reduction. It was just on a very small personal scale, not the scope of the things the data science community does but tiny things, and so some of my tiny examples are not completely wretched and they like the end. So that works out really really well, one of the ones that was a lot of fun for me and. Has Been. Fun for my colleagues is when I rewired the alternator on the diesel engine and what happens is the little pulses that show RPM's are now at a slightly different rate from the new alternator than they were from the old alternator. So I had to do a little data science thing to model the differences in the pulses and it's embarrassing because they only have like six data points in the data set, but it does fit align very elegantly and we can use that tiny little data set to explore functional programming topics in Python. Where we can focus on the programming side of it because the data is small, relatively neat dozen involve account numbers or any other kinds of protected data that we have banks, and so it's a fun project for them to deal with also although at the time when I was working on it, it was brain scrambling Lee complicated because I'm not a data scientists but the functional programming aspect of it worked out beautifully well, and it serves as kind of a nice little example of how to apply on functional techniques to a small set of data. And Brings US nicely to our overall topic of how to find useful projects and useful motivations for people who are new to programming or who are acquiring new skills to help them stay focused and stay dedicated to actually. The information that they're setting out for while also being able to produce something you to themselves. So I'm wondering how your overall day-to-day experience as somebody who is training other engineers in your work context helps you to identify useful ways that newcomers can learn about python require other technical skills. It is a delightfully difficult problem because people have a variety of passions, different things interest. To things that are important in the workplace sometimes terribly motivating and so yes, it's an important project and yes, the company will save money or make money or something but really frankly. Can Be kind of boring, and so some of those things can be frustrating for people who are expected to pick up a new skill and some of it can be frustrating for managers who would like their people to pick up new skills. So it's fun to step outside the work environment. The tricky part about finding a passion project. One tricky part is that some things are just hard to automate. It's not so much that the software might be particularly difficult to right. Maybe the is not that bad but the whole concept of automating something can be really difficult. So because I lived on a boat, one of my passions is to limit agricultural runoff of pesticides and fertilizers. You know that's not really very automated thing what am I gonNa do give farmers better software. Now they have pretty good software for managing these things, but they don't necessarily have is perhaps The. Right regulatory environment for limiting where in when they can use asks decides and is that an automation thing? Maybe it's not maybe it's just I. Need to call a lot more senators representatives. So the passion that you have may not always fit something that can be automated in the first place. So that's one of the limitations is to get the sort of language of automation and the approach to automating things so that you can have a respectable doable project. And the second part, which is no less important is sometimes it's just difficult to build good automated solutions software as well. Frankly hard and robust scalable reliable software is really hard and so you may have some clever automated small APP that runs on your desktop and may help the. They, your passionate about. But can you turn this into something that will scale and can be run in the cloud and can be deployed medically out gosh? As a whole lot of other considerations there outside the language outside the value created by your project that can make just daunting. And so you have a am I doing the right thing, and am I doing the thing the right way, and there's both of those can be difficult to discover whether or not you've got the right thing whether or not you're doing it the right way and so when someone is learning technology for the first time, you know you're trying to learn python language Oh. Gosh. You kind of have to set both of those things aside and you wind up having to build something that maybe isn't a great solution doesn't solve the problem you're passionate about, but maybe comes close. And that's important. That way you have something you're interested in maybe it's not the best ever solution, but it's better than nothing and you learned the python and you learned more about autonation what can be automated, what can't be automated, and so the final bid of this is giving yourself permission to fail. It may not work things didn't work out right? That's okay. You started again the second one was better than the first one, and that I believe is where the real secret is is giving yourself permission to fail to try something to see if it worked and if it didn't work, try something different that I think is really important. And there are a couple of things that I want to dig into their one being that in terms of being able to select a project that you care about, and that is motivating for you to go through the pain of learning this new skill. There's the difference of, as you said, what is possible versus what is practical versus what is not even achievable because of limitations of our current technology. But then there's also the learning to fail and fail effectively piece where there's failure in terms of the overall project but then there are. Also the intermediate failures that happen as you're learning something where you have a syntax error, the project crashes, or there's a difference in the way that you implemented a particular function call versus what it's expecting and being able to parse through those stack traces to understand what went wrong, how to fix it what are your thoughts on some of the ways that the language itself and various ecosystem components, libraries, or tool chains or editor environments can assist in helping people to overcome those intermediate failures so that they can keep progressing rather than getting discouraged. Giving up, they feel like they're not able to make forward progress. Fighting. The sense of discouragment from new technology is potentially quite difficult than it is sort of daunting. It's sometimes difficult to figure out how to build up the right level of patients with all of this because it is an especially when it's new, it is difficult. What I suspect sometimes is that folks who seemed to struggle a lot. I believe seem to struggle partly because I hate to beat this point too heavily but I think there are people who don't really feel comfortable giving themselves permission to fail they'll try something it didn't work and they're not sure what to do next and perhaps they need to back off some of their assumptions back-off some of the things that they realize they didn't know they guest at. But. If you sort of struggled to type in the code in the first place and it took you hours and hours to write a few lines of code. Eight to throw them away and so you wind up feeling frustrated because it took me all day to write. This ended doesn't work and I legitimately feel the pain of this that all of this effort and it's still not right. But I think there is a deeper level permission to fail. That is part of being a patient technology explorer. In the you know or you need to be comfortable with, you're not going to get there and you're not GonNa get there right away and you're going to spend hours writing the first line of code and it's not GonNa work. So you're GONNA have to. Spend another few hours researching that line of code, and then understanding something that you previously didn't understand, which is a kind of a failure. Learning involves unlearn ing the mistakes and unlearn the invalid assumptions, which is again a permission to fail that there are mistakes that will be made and you'll make them and you have to be sort of somehow optimistic about making a mistake. And I don't know where that optimism would come from Rela- but I kind of feel that that's the thing is hard to find sometimes is how do I press on in spite of this pretty obscure thing? tooling around this and you had mentioned, is there a way in the ecosystem of tools to address this tooling is a sensitive issue because you can imagine having some really slick integrated development environment that's looking over your shoulder and trying to coach you on what those error messages re lean. This is potentially dangerous area because somehow or other this looking over your shoulder software tool is trying to register your intent and that can be really tricky because it may not be clear from the code what you're intending to do in the first place and so the tool in trying to square you away may wind up misleading you because it made the wrong guests about your intent. So I worry a little bit about over tooling in this area. But then on the other hand under tooling means people look at cryptic messages as Gosh I can't do computer today and I don't know where the middle ground would be. Is it possible to have some super clever assistant or would you need some natural language thing where you talked through the problem and the solution with some Chat Bot before you started coding so that the Chat Bot had some context and some sense of what you think the terminology means and maybe that would be helpful. But Gosh, doing sentiment analysis on some of these technical topics. Fraught with difficulty since I get median mean confused even having me start statistical project is going to be trouble because you know where it's going to go nowhere good and so I would need to talk to a real data scientist before I got started down something that involves statistics So tooling in that area maybe not so helpful you maybe need a tutor or somebody that you can alway-. That's what stack overflow is. You're paying your. Somebody tutors you. And that goes nicely to into the idea of encouraging people to select a project that they're interested in that they want to be able to work through but then figuring out how you actually explain to them that wonderful website or that super cool robot that they wanNA build isn't really practical. It's actually going to require a decade and a whole team of engineers to be able to actually get anywhere near success. Why don't you set your sights a little lower and? So just being able to help villa straight what types of projects are actually reasonable and within scope and achievable in a short amount of time for them to be able to actually acquire the skills. But then also if they are looking to take on a somewhat larger project understanding what are the components that the overall project can be decomposed into the dividing lines, and how are you going to go from zero to complete and what are the steps along the way? Oh. Yeah. That is I. believe sort of the gold standard in the long run for how you understand the technology it is being able to discuss it at reasonably high level with a certain amount of clarity as to what the objectives are, what the information sources are, what the information target is, what the transformations are. This is all not obvious that it has to fit together this way there's a lot of things where it's not clear that it's an information based operation. In the first place, you know your robot example I, want a clever robot to do a better vacuuming pattern my apartment that's actually information thing what is the source of data for the robot and it's an algorithm thing it's none of this is clear. I it takes sometimes I think years of experience to figure out what the sort of roadmap through the intellectual space is. How do we talk about this and what are we talking about things that can be difficult for? A person to come to grips with at one of the most important things that I think is not obvious at I is a great many pieces of automation are really supporting a person making a decision. It's not doing the thing it's helping a person decide if the thing was done correctly or should the thing be done at all? So when you look at like ride sharing lift or something like that a car pulls up, do I do I not get in these? Are Questions that have to be addressed by providing a great deal of information to both parties in the transaction so that they're comfortable making a decision and then taking action, and so the fact that it's really information that helps a person decide what to do. It's sometimes hard to even frame the problem that way so that you can then figure out what information they need, what transformations have to be performed. How do I get it in a form that people can use it There's also the question of what the different levels of detail and guidance are that are needed for people as they progress along different stages of acquiring experience and understanding of these problem spaces where if you have somebody who is completely new to programming technology, how do you keep them interested past the point of this is a function. This is a variable data flows through the program because all they care about is being able to make a shiny website to be able to impress all their friends or build a video game that they can play and. They don't WanNa know what the core building blocks are, but they have to be able to understand that, and then once they've gained enough experience to be able to say, okay I've built you know this PAC pacman clone and now I wanna be able to go on to building some Shiny Three d you know platformer game acquiring that next level of capability what are the differences in terms of how we need to provide guidance and provide motivation through those changes or is there a difference between the different stages in terms of how you keep people interested? The question of is there a difference that really hits at it because I think a lot of these things are more of the same kind of things that it's that very first step. That's the hardest once the very first sort of glimmer of understanding of how this all works together is achieved the rest of it it may not flow at the pace you want but. It kind of flows gets that first glimmer of what is the data in this problem? What is the processing in this problem and who is the consumer of the data? These are hard hard things to reason about sometimes, and once you're sort of over the hump there as far as what is the data? Who needs what action are they going to take based on net data? Then after that, it begins to become more clear how automation works where automation fits into our life. The first few steps there of what is information and how do people use the information to make decisions. Some of that is hard to get a grip on because so many things are so delightfully automatic and have been well thought out you glance at your stove and you see the time somebody thought that all the way through like what is the use case for an idol stove and you as the user don't often think about why did somebody decide that the stove? Should show me the time that connection between what is the stove doing when it's idol and what is the stove doing when it's working these are not obvious thanks and it takes a bit of thinking about the problem space and the technology and what people do and why they do it, and then this is difficult but I think the very first step is just of the core understanding of how does a person used the device they supply input device takes in action, but it's the person initiating in confirming, acknowledging, understanding how that works I believe is a pretty big deal. One of the other things to think about too in terms of helping people gain understanding of how complex pieces of software work and how they can go from zero to complete is the question of starting from the inside out versus the outside in where do you start with functions and variables data flows or do you start with the complete application and then guide people through decomposing it and figuring out how things wire together at successfully deeper levels? That's a huge question because having a goal directed activity looking at the total application is how you keep people motivated. But as a practical matter, if you're GONNA learn the technology, you're going to have to start out with tiny little baby steps of defining variables, defining functions, and figuring out how the Python statement works and those sorts of things and having the to meet in the middle is, of course, the goal but all my gosh, it's so challenging to keep your eye on the prize when. You're still trying to figure out what an L. IF clause does in a python if statement and your real goal may be environmental cleanup of the Chesapeake Bay but you're still having trouble with L. Lift clauses. So yes, there's a big gap there and it's difficult gap and it is difficult to see how big problems are solved by lots of little bits of software. It's very much an art form and I don't have great advice. All I know is that I start my books almost all of. Them with really, very, very simple stuff before moving on to more advanced things in the hope that people will get started on the right foot. They'll come to the foundations of the language sensibly and eventually see how to bridge the problem that they'd like to solve in to this technology world that doesn't fit their problem very well all one of the fun problems that I found along the way was the carbon dioxide measurements from the top of Monica Volcano in Hawaii years and years and years of. Weather, data fabulous data set to analyze reasonably clean so that you don't need to spend a lot of time fooling around with it, but you can see this dramatic uptick in co two levels and you can take out seasonal variations. You can do lots of very clever, not very difficult statistics with that data set. It's a lot of fun for learning Medo, but then there's this next question of I wanNA solve a bigger environmental problem and I'm kind of stuck looking at a small sample of data. I don't have great advice there except keep pressing forward, keep pushing the envelope on technology keep trying to master new things. As an author who is trying to help empire these skills there's also the challenge of providing a structured approach to being able to understand what's happening, but also trying to present it in a way that is interesting and motivating for people who are reading who might have different backgrounds where your example of how to replicate the decision making behavior of the sorting hat from Harry. Potter isn't interesting at all. They care much more about something completely orthogonal to that. So how do you provide room for creativity and exploration while also providing enough of a structured approach to help guide people through understanding the technology that will actually help them solve the problems that they care about? It's difficult to reach outside yourself. That is for sure and so I'm sort of fortunate that I was a traveling consultant for a long time. So I saw a fairly large number of interesting problems but the other side of that is some of those problems are really cryptically weird and you know the customer enterprise caused their own problem by doing some dumb thing fifteen years ago, and we're still paying the prices for that and That doesn't really translate well to a book on Python. It was fun. I learned a lot from it I learned some on skills, but you know the problems kinda rarefied. So that was the downside of being a traveling consultant similarly working as I do now for capital one, some of the banking problems are things that are highly technical banking problems and some are highly technical bank marketing problems. They don't translate terribly well accepted a tiny little community that's. With it but some of the sailboat problems are kind of general and so they kind of be expanded into something that other people might find interesting. So I've sort of leveraged a bunch of those sailboat hobby problems and they've been a lot of fun because I have to tease out the little nugget of python programming goodness that's in there and leave behind a bunch of the other ephemeral things. That collect along beside it so that I think forces me to something that's Kinda recreational not so serious not so enterprise business stuff but still has enough technical merit that it illustrates a pipeline programming principal reasonably well, one of the ones that I was looking at the other day as part of a second addition rewrite was this question of how far away two things are given latitudes and longitudes. There's like three different ways to compute that depending on exactly how much accuracy you need, and so that set of formulas is a thing that I have sitting on a shelf that I pull out periodically because if you WANNA do floating point math, it's kind of fun. If you WANNA do some analysis of you know three d vector space some of it can be fun if you're GonNa do some statistical aggregation of the data sometimes, it can be fun you hate to overuse the example but on the other hand, it's an easy thing for people to visualize because you know you look out over the water and say how far away is that much an interesting question and let's explore it. This episode of Podcast I donate sponsored by data dog the premier monitoring solution for modern environments. Data dogs latest features help teams visualize granular application data for more effective, troubleshooting, and optimisation. Data Dog Continues Profiler analyzes your production level code and collects different profile types CPU memory allocation I o anymore enabling you to search analyze into the code level performance in real time. And pivot between profiles and distributed traces to find slow where resource-intensive requests. In addition, Data Dogs, application performance monitoring live surge lets you search across a real time stream of all ingested traces from your services. For even more detail filter individual traces by infrastructure application and custom tags. Data dog has a special offer for PODCAST DOT in it. Listeners sign up for a free fourteen day trial at Python podcast dot com slash data dog install the data dog agent, and receive one of data dogs famously cozy t shirts for free. As somebody who is working in technology and has a lot of history in being able to address these various problems and solve the men understand what is possible in what has practical? What are the shortcomings in the ways that we build and design technology that make that difficult to understand as to what is possible and what some of the ways that as technologists we can make fat more approachable for somebody who does have some wonderful idea for how to solve something and requires some technological component to it but then they hit this brick wall of not even knowing where to begin. I feel that pain on a fairly regular basis because there are some of these bits of sailboat technology that I really parts of it. I just do not understand at all and some of the more technical parts of understanding how the boat is put together stuff like fiberglass like I lived in a fiberglass house for two years and I understand Zilch about fiberglass so i. Very. Much. Feel the pain of somebody who's coming to an information centric problem and wonders how all this information technology works because I'm happen to be living information technology space I kind of get it as second nature to me. But when I come to fiberglass space I, have to call a professional and say listen I need this thing in my hall fixed what are you going? To Do, and then they talk about your fiberglass Mumbo jumbo to me I'm slowly getting a better feel for how that plastic technology of fiberglass works, but it's an uphill grind and it gives me a sense of how other people feel about software how do I get there? What are the fundamentals? So I try to use things that are foreign to me that I've had. To learn on the boat as a way to help me understand how someone can be completely lost about something as simple as floating point numbers. It always amazes me that people are shocked to by adding together one third in one third and getting an answer that the right most decimal place is not point six, six, point, six, six, six, six, eight, where did that come from? It seems obvious to me. It's not obvious to them, and all I have to do is step out of my comfort zone with the computer and think about my discomfort zone with fiberglass and say, Oh yeah really there are a lot of questions here that need to be answered to make this floating point thing seal war comfortable to someone who's as lost around floating point is I'm lost around fiberglass. Continuing on that in terms of your own experiences of gaining new capabilities and new skills particularly in the technical sector what are some of the projects that have kept you motivated and how have you overcome the hurdles in understanding to be able to decompose those skill acquisitions effectively One of the ones I struggled with for a while in continue to struggle with an I also use it as a kind of a lever for understanding other people's discomfort the processing images you know, take a picture with my phone and I brought it to my computer and I'm Kinda, done with it there's tools on the phone that we'll do things you know expanding a section or contracting a section or whatever but I had a picture that part of it was almost unviable than I really wanted to look at it more closely. So I had to kind of teach myself about. A photo filtering using some of the python packages that are out there to manipulate images. So that helped to me also to understand where knowledge gaps arise because I would kind of assume that pictures work this way, and then when you actually look at the data structure and look at the libraries available, it's like no pictures don't actually work the way I think they do what I think of as contrast, a picture isn't really exactly what's going on in there. So the coming to grips with the terminology as part of it, and so I try to write in that way for people. Who are reasonably knowledgeable about some things but don't know about how this particular thing works inside the programming language programming world computer environment in general. But really how it's visible inside the programming language, what are the data structures and what are the algorithms? These are not obvious things and I try to take my struggles and project them on things that I'm perfectly comfortable with how would someone struggle with this? What do they need to know what's the best way to expose it? It makes some of my books of long. We'd end an argument with one of the editors about one of these. Things. That's four hundred and some odd pages. But in the long run, I kinda win some of those arguments because it's difficult to find stuff that you can clearly cut out because for the person who's not already an expert, you need a little bit of background and so the little bit of background expands to another example which expands to an example that motivates that example so that you can then come to the real problem. So I'm comfortable more comfortable with that over the years, and now that I'm a book number nine or something with providing sort of a lengthy build up to. More detailed more practical kinds of things. Going back to your point about getting comfortable with failure for somebody who is writing a book what are some of the ways that you can help convey that practice to somebody of? Here's something that's broken. Here's you actually go about troubleshooting and finding a solution. That is sometimes difficult. This hearkens back to the Newbie who is very first wanting to learn to program because they think they have a good problem they want to solve this computer thing is kind of opaque to them. Some of these things can be challenging because. It's not always easy to see how it's all going to fit together where the person's role is and what actions the person takes, what decision the person makes and what the response of the software needs to be that some of that is right awful difficult and I don't know that I. Really have a grip on that as a writer because I know that there are times when I have really banged my head against the. Wall and written and written and rewritten, and torn it up and deleted it and written it all again, and still the technical editors. The reviewers at packed will look at it and say you know Steve This really does not make any sense and they're absolutely right. Some of these things are hard and you need to throttle back and say that, yes, I have a lofty goal but I'm not going to be able to get. there. So let me find a less lofty goal that might be more achievable and perhaps I can cut that back down to a baby step that I can take in just totter forward a few steps and get something to work and I think that's probably the only useful advice is to when confronted with something that's really really difficult find ways to decompose it into the little baby steps automate the littlest baby step first and See if you can expand from there knowing full well, that at some point you may wind up walking into a corner in all those baby steps and after go back and say what choice did I make what choice did I make before that Oh wait before that I made a bad choice to use the wrong data structures. So let's delete that code and start again using this other data structure frustrating to delete all those things. But it's how you learn. You walk down a variety of paths that lead to dead ends, and then after go back and try other Baz that maybe don't lead to dead ends. But if you limit your goals to something very, very small, then each success is its own reward and it makes it a little easier to move forward. Yeah definitely having those small wins at different stages can help keep people on track where if they don't have any path forward to understand how to even achieve some small success than they're going to be completely discouraged and give up and go painting instead. Not that there's anything wrong with that. There isn't in fact, in many cases, the mental break is a good thing. So between technology and sailboats, there's a giant gap because there's very little technology on sailboats. It's wind and water and a big day. Krahn fabric. Sale. For anybody who is considering writing a book to Empire Knowledge or skill to somebody or for somebody who is looking to acquire some new technical capability? Is there any particular advice that you have for them? Giving yourself the freedom to explore I think is one of the biggest I know some folks who struggle into dead ends and then don't know what to do and I don't know maybe they've imposed a schedule on themselves or they've decided early on on some constraints that are perhaps a bad idea for instance, that in past a run on this laptop. Well, yeah. But it may be it's a big machine learning thing and maybe you need to spend. Some money at a place like Google or Amazon or something for a big server for a few hours to do this project that would take a month on your home computer. You know some of those decisions are hard decisions to make and it can be hard to unwind a previously decision sell the advice that I have for almost everybody is to try to maintain as much flexibility as you possibly can commit to very little and make sure that almost. Everything that you decide. You can undecided quickly and go in a different direction and I think the ability to undecided and Change Direction is the secret to mastering a lot of technologies I believe that we stumble into these things with assumptions in our assumptions are sometimes terribly helpful. What little I know about the fiberglass my boat is probably all wrong assumptions and each time that I talked to a contractor about some particular job they improve my understanding a little. Bit because they basically invalidate one of my assumptions and caused me to have to learn something new and I think that's true for any technology particularly software technology that some of it is difficult to visualize since. So you head into thinking you know what you're talking about thinking. You know what you're going to build and some of it is bad assumptions and you need to be flexible. You need to be forgiving of yourself and try again later differently without. Cursing your idiocy. No forgive yourself. You didn't know you tried something. Let's try something different. Reflecting back on your experience of working with Python over the past couple of decades what are some of the ways that it has improved in your experience in terms of being more welcoming to newcomers or being more forgiving to failure This is a tough one, but python has grown now. So dramatically by some metrics idiots the most popular programming language and so when I started in the previous millennium looking at python was kind of a nothing. The question back in the day was you should maybe be looking at Ruby because it's a better language I didn't agree at the time and I don't agree now but by thought has swept up in popularity to a huge degree. So the availability of tutorials and the availability of exercises and things like that has just shot through the roof and what I think people need to do as we've allowing. Themselves freedom to make mistakes you need to allow yourself freedom to look at tutorials. Look at documents look at advice people have and recognized that there's a lot of out there not all of which is addressed to your specific need and so if you find something that seems unhelpful discarded move on, get the next thing because of the huge volume of tutorial material and the huge volume of training material by. It should be possible to find something that is appropriate for where you are as a learner or as a deep expert even because while I may be a deep expert on the language I know squat about statistics and daily I. AM reminded about a little I know about the fundamentals of data science by my peers in the data science community in their peers in the company but. Data Science wise. They're not my peers there my mentors and recognizing that gap is helpful because it shows me what I need to learn and conversely are things they don't know about python so I can show them the things they need to learn but I believe it's very important to be forgiving of yourself and to allow yourself the space to find your mistakes switch over to something different. And are there any other aspects of this topic of staying motivated and acquiring new skills and helping other people to learn new things that we didn't discuss yet? You'd like to cover before we close out the show. No, you had been super super helpful, and super thorough. You know this is a deep topic. I've been doing it for a number of years but I think this is really been a fabulous conversation on acquiring perfecting skills which I think is you know probably one of the most important things we can do as human beings. Well for anybody who wants to get in touch with you or follow along with the work that you're doing I'll have you add your preferred contact information to the show notes and so with that almost into the picks this week, I'm going to choose the combined trilogies of the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, both of which I just recently watched in the extended edition. So it's always Fun to revisit those movies and watching the extended edition and seeing the little scenes that weren't in the theatrical releases was fun to try and pick them out and just a lot of good fun and really well made movie. So if you're looking for something to keep you entertained for a few hours, definitely worth sitting down with one of those and so that all Pasadena Stephen Fixed this week. I have two picks that are near and dear to my heart, and these are sometimes hard to find because these are kind of obscure old movies, Dr Strangelove or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb, which is the full title, which is just in one sense extremely depressing story about nuclear war but in another sense is just a high. Comedy of errors on the part of government officials. I, absolutely love that movie because of that that gross conflict between the fact that it's a comedy and it's a tragedy all in one package I also liked the movie because it's shot in. Bizarro square format like it was originally a sixteen millimeter film or something made for well when I was a little kid for school use the sort of obscure weirdness of it offsets the black comedy as well as the epic tragedy. That is all one thing in that movie with just a fabulous performance by everybody involved the other one is the movie the general by Buster Keaton and it is also Black and white but is that's just a coincidence. It just happens to be really really old like nineteen fifteen or something like that. It was a a sort of tragedy about the civil war. But because it's buster Keaton, it's filled with these insane physical comedy things that only he could do so that I believe is perhaps one of the funniest movies I think I've ever seen but interestingly, also a tragedy because a lot of people do wind up getting hurt when the train blows up at the end spoiler alert the train blows up at the end, the physical comedy oven, and all of Buster Keaton's physical comedy is just the most amazing thing. Thank you very much for those recommendations definitely enjoy Dr Strangelove when I watched it all to take a look at the general and I also appreciate you taking the time today to join me and share your experience as an author and a trainer in helping people to acquire and perfect new skills particularly in the technology space. So thank you again for all of your effort on that front and I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Don't forget to check out our other shows, the data engineering podcast at data engineering podcast, dot com for the latest on modern data management. visit the site of Python podcast dot com to subscribe to the show sign up for the mailing lists and the show notes. And if people learn something or try to project from the show, then tell us about it email hosts at podcast in dot com with your story. To help other people find the show please leave review on I tunes and tell your friends and coworkers.

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Precious Bodily Fluids

"Welcome to the holy fool. Podcast where we endeavor to look in the spaces in between words and see what is flowing precious fluids might be lurking there. My name is david friar and i'm talking to you from chang. My thailand mona. I'm just bonilla. And i'm talking to you from kofu greece. Fantastic to see you again sir. Jasper u2 david really good to see menu looking radiant with health care we got feeling okay feeling okay. I thought i would wear a black shirt today. What do you think you make a change all right brother. So what is it. We're going to be talking about today. Well i'm Like i said. I think you're you're you're looking like you're you're bursting with energy and it looks like maybe your your precious bodily fluids A doing pretty well at the moment. And you alluded to that in your intro brag but my precious bodily fluids seemed to be serving me well today. Yup for sure man for sure. Yeah good blood and you know good kind of enzymes and you know reproductive fluids and and these kinds of things and yen to our to our audience who am not aware of the term precious bodily fluids This was It was it's a reference to dr strangelove. The brilliant staff stanley kubrick movie from was ninety. Sixty two i think and Yeah there's a brigadier general. Jack d ripper who basically sets off a nuclear war. Because he's convinced that the county's trying to sappington purify are precious bodily fluids and you know we we. We've been talking recently in the show about the toxic environment that we live in and And that that. Yeah that that kinda term precious bodily fluids just came into my mind. Because i think that they are being set an impure fide. And we'll let you know. It seems pretty true but you know. How can we respond to that. What can we. What can we do about it and you know who. Or what is responsible for the setting and in yeah refer about precious bodily fluids right right. Are we going to have to go to nuclear war in order to solve this problem. Well no. I really hope not. Yeah i mean maybe nuclear was may well be a thing of the past but Who knows maybe planetary lockdowns and sony viruses and things like that Maybe that's the modern Version of Of a nuclear war. So maybe yeah. Maybe i'll pdf's being sacked and impure fide so much that we you know we don't have the you know the the the ability to You know to to to avert These kinds of scenarios right right. Okay and i think this does tie in with We're talking about last week. The incarnation and coming into the body and being fully here and fully present and and what we what we talked about before about really feeling and being with our organs in the heart and all of this stuff so seems like we're. We're kind of doing the whole thing. Now yellow pecking luay unpacking it. All the way. Okay so precious bodily fluids if we if we kind of set aside for now the physical parameters the the radiation from the wifi and the electric grid system and all of that and contaminants that are around us and in the soils and food and floating around in you know we just let us do our best to minimize those things and manage them properly. But i still think there's in some of the messaging we had between us during the week. You were mentioning other. Things you mentioned are fixation on the mental emotional idea of the world As being a culprit or adding to the of our. Pdf's your man. Yeah thanks for money there about forgotten about that. It's you because the and we talked about this a lot before that the world is it like an in sort of the holy fool. Idea of the world is something that we're we're literally kind of creating doesn't really exist. You know we can say that the earth exists. The beautiful natural earth as itself exists. And certainly you know. Concrete roads exist. But just the idea of tomorrow and yesterday and you know the idea of a nasty virus. That's you know. That's that's looking for us in hunting down and you know new variance and things like that. This is all part of the world and it really doesn't exist. It's just being kept alive by our. You know mental emotional. The mental emotional contracts That we you know that the the building blocks of the world and you know it it takes. It's gotta have have a power source right. You know this. This constant vibe ing on the idea of the world is constant you know creation and this idea of my god. Where are we going. It's and we know the world's in a real bad state or it's in you know these people wanna do this to me or they want to do that to me and you know have to do this after that. It's a it. it's just a big trip and so that the power the power source is our own body. I mean where else is you know. Where else could it come from. It really comes from from our nervous system. I mean i would say. I mean i can't think what else do you think Powers are thought saw our emotions. I think even science Acknowledges this right that you know the brain uses more glucose. I think more sugar than any other organ in the body and most of those taken up by unnecessary thinking you know so. It's not just the fueled is not just coming from Food that we're eating. That food is being turned into fuel into fuel in the body and the body's having to work really hard to you know keep this illusory idea of the world running and it's not like it's not real. It's completely irrelevant really right now. Totally and completely irrelevant. So you know we are really responsible in the in the first part For the setting and in purifying of our pbs. Pick because we're investing in this kind of crazy idea. That's really crazy idea. And if you know any normies out there listening any any sort of normal people listening would say well of course as a world you know. Of course there is a token about you know hardly for you're a fool but you know just look at it for yourself you know. Where is the world right now. It's in your mind. You know the idea of a virus. The idea of president there so prime minister that or you know lockdowns or mandates or anything else. It's in your mind right now at. That's the only place that exists. I one way. This impacted me when i thought about it and kind of felt it. I was thinking about the problems facing the problems. I'm based that aspect of the world. Okay the world the the constructs of these problems and so i really kind of you know identified. Okay i've got that problem with these people in this problem with money in this problem may be about how my future might unfold. You know the real the real kind of worry. Things that that i have and i thought about those things are they real and the one norm side is like of course look at those things. Those are tangible things and then the the holy fool side of me imagined okay. What if david disappeared. David just gone. Where are those things. Where are those problems. They've vanished did there. So they don't have substance in and of themselves. They only have the substance of me launching them into being with my sustained conscious feedback into the world of. Yeah this is the way things are. This is the way things are. This is the way things are. If you just deleted my memory from they become those problems would be gone. If i wasn't here they'd be gone so they're not where that road that would still be there Concrete road would still be there. So that's that's something that's of the earth the material things. So that's that's a different category of issue though. Yeah and so. So many of these these things which are quite prominent features of aspects of my consciousness from time to time and certainly i my consciousness prior to kind of investigating this were these things of the world of this fabricated structure and it wasn't such a pleasant structure it was it was a draining structure and yeah where did that energy come from. Exactly yeah it. It's exhausting you. We can feel it. It's like hall man. Yeah you can just feel the heaviness of of all of that Yeah well said. And i think that this is the reason why We've gotten to this point where externally you know. We're we're creating at some. Somehow the you know the human race macro level you know. We're all kind of creating this. This system of kim trails and five g. and stuff you know because right now you know we're using this technology so you know in some pot why we're adding to it so it seems that what is taken us to this this crazy lunatic in place of of just really polluting around environment literally shitting in her own bed. You know every day is because yeah we. We've been doing it to ourselves for millennia people even. I'm sure back in ancient greece. It wasn't as bad as it is now. But you know. I'm sure people were still neurotic to some degree you know. They were still sort of living in their own heads and worrying about what somebody else would think about them. And you know. I'm better than him or not as good as her. And so. i think that you know because we haven't been able to resolve this As we've as our technological ability has evolved You know we have What do you call it We have just Externalised it you know. We haven't been willing to face. Well what's been going on the inside so you know with this great technology we have. We've just externalize the fucker in into the into the big stone. Well you know and really. That's you know that that's that's a clue for us is. It's like you know the where we would really telling ourselves. If only we have the the smartness you know the the intelligence to say oh my god all of this stuff is is me or it's us. I'm adding to this because you know. I'm not facing up to myself on the inside. You know i dislike myself for you know. I dislike her not happy with my job. But i'm continuing to do it. So i think we can. Do you know it's like what i'm trying to do here. Living in a tent is to get out of that system. You know. I mean. I can't change it by myself. But that's what people i think you know as the as they are aware of the just the craziness that we're living in like flushing a toilet. God knows how many times a day and all these beautiful water beautiful clean. Mortar just flushing this poop down the drain and then going into some you know plant where it treated with chemicals and then thrown into a river. I mean it's just not you know and then just a little kind of you know half liter bottles plastic bottles of water which just disposed of after views them absolutely nuts. So yeah so anyway. That was a bit of a long rent. But i think that ultimately all we can do once we see it is to live in this world But not the of it you know as as as as brother jesus said you know But in but also I think it's important to realize the craziness of our environment really is a manifestation of our refusal or inability to face the fact that we are setting an purifying our own. Pbf's you know that walking around believing in as you said you know literally believing in this well were investing in this world. What will what would we be without it. It's too many people that just too scary. You know like you know. I well you know on a need this suffering because you know i'm too scared of what would happen the complete annihilation. You know the the complete void that would face me right now. If i didn't have the safety net level of my suffering to hold onto. Yeah at least suffering points to something. Yeah i've got some kind of presence here. yeah yeah. That's a lot of work to do your emma it is yeah Maybe this is a reasonable time to when we had a discussion just prior to go on live here and i was relating that Often anxiety is one of the things that i've dealt with an anxiety you know could be fear could be anxiety those that's a tricky line to call Somewhere in between fear and anxiety. Or both i get it so if i paint a typical scenario. I'm i'm in bed some days. I might have a restless sleep. Maybe around four a m five. Am and i'm feeling some kind of nebulous anxiety. Slash fear somewhere around my solar plexus region very often that word fields to be coming from the body so now i've got a chance to deal with it. You know like a man like a holy man. Yeah okay so coach. what should i do. Well it's you know it's it's it's insightful of you to to locate that anxiety in your solar plexus because according to the ancient chinese wisdom and zaidi is produced by the stomach by the organ of the stomach and by the way they say that when the stomach is is kind of happy It produces the kind of feeling or the emotion of generosity and so I i do when i'm Feeling any kind of finger quotes air quotes. Some negative emotion is to like you said you know really kind of go into where i feel it and then to To see if i can kind of penetrate to go all the way into you know through the the emotional feeling to see if i can really incarnate into the feeling of the organ itself into the just see if i can actually start to feel the physical feeling of the stomach. In this case is actually the stomach. Spleen pancreas Kind of constellation. Those three guys together And i yeah so. I would just really safe. I catoon and feel the physical location of the stomach and spleen pancreas and then in addition to that To actually you know to really smile into the stomach and to and to kinda thank you and say i love you to the stomach because all of our organs and all of ourselves super super intelligent you know they they really are the kind that the kind of like our children in away you know and You know you can. Just be mindful and be there with your child with little. Johnny oh little jeannie and just you know not be angry with them and just be there and be very kind of present with them you know. And that's kind of nice but they want you to. Also you know to smile into you. Know to have some warmth towards them and it's the same with with our organs so that would be what i would do and again. I think it's very interesting that you said that it comes up about four or five in the morning because this is before the sun comes up you know and no i mean i have clients hypnotherapy clients say the same kind of things you know the when facing addictions things that they just can't beat they don't seem to assail them during the day. But at night This is when they often they know what kinds of Make all kinds of promises to themselves during the day and then at night it just gets washed away. And i think that's because you know during the day You know with which tuned into our environment tuned into the sun and we've got that beautiful solar energy You know which is linked with our solar plexus linked with the heart. Surely you know it's the sun is is our lifeforce so you know so when the sun is not there it's like we have to be the son of well even when the sun is there you know we really wanna wakeup and really wanted to be the true sovereign ourselves. You know. it's like we need to be the son of ourselves. The smiling kind of present powerful Presence of the sun within ourselves right. Yeah okay. so he's smile we get in there. We penetrate it. We feel it and we smile to it. You mentioned a thing last last week. You said are our body really loves us and it was. It was was it what we actually said it was just a picture in my mind was like a a big galanti dog when we when we come home. The dog's so happy to see It's just pure genuine animal. Love it just really just loves us. And i that image. The body loves us like that. Easy here he's got the ball. Yeah it's true man. Yeah we were talking about that last week about the body being like a dog. You know it's true. I mean i know that like especially in tyco to that would be. That's absolutely like a no no no that doug dogs aren't seen as very very kind of You know very high. No but but you know we. We know what we're saying right. you know. Dogs are just so as you say the so pleased to see us you know and And it could be the same like a horse or any kind of animal. That i come that you make friends with dolphin. You know any natural animal. That's what our bodies like. Our bodies are not mean. You know they're really not you know them they're mammals you know they're just That kind that nice the nice creatures it at at at base at heart and they only count they need turn mean when we make them mean by sapping sapping and in purifying their precious bodily fluids by literally milking them. You know drawing out of them Their power By fueling our On neurosis of this this imaginary world so and that's not going to go away. It's part of our individuation as you know as spirit You know having this kind of physical experience and fully embodying in this experience. That's the thought of the journey. It's not it's really the the suffering the will the potential of suffering and the difficulties aren't going to go away. So it's it's you know it's part of our mission in but you know really. I think the mission starts to become a more positive one when we realized that well we have this. Yeah we have this great vehicle the at base at at route. It really loves us. It's really amazing. It's not meaning is not nasty. It's not you know it's not bad in any way it's it's completely good completely positive but it has needs it has requirements. You know. it's it's it's not just like a car that you cannot wash you know and not change the oil and you know even in weight is like that you know because eventually you know a car which isn't loved is gonna break down faster than car you you take care of but up bodies a far more than cars. you know. they're they're they're intelligent. I really intelligent. So it behoves us you know when we feel these. The onset of a A fear or anxiety or anger or jealousy or whatever it is To you know to take that as a as a message from our own vehicle from her own body wow. I haven't been present and to come into the body into feel into the body to smile into it and not to make it like to kind of mechanical. You know because really the the body is a whole system and it's not Indistinguishable from its environment. So if we only do it from the mind from the head and we go k. Right on i'm really isolating the feeling of the stomach and i'm smiling into it. You'll you'll find listeners. That that's not gonna work you know we. It's it's it first of all we need to kind of just safe we can. You know just like again. We were saying last week. Just surrender just retreat back to the overall body feeling and even try that to the kind of just the sense of complete openness and space the void of awareness which holds the space for everything and then the first thing that comes out of that seems to be the body feeling and then out of that seems to come sensory experience so we can kind of practice with that just this sort of is yeah this present kind of open a sensory experience as ground You know then we still gonna get spun out into thought something. We always do Then we can also a little bit more attention into the you know the the part of us which requires the most. Tlc at that time fascinating yeah. I just. I really been feeling that. If i go back to that the the world picture that i that i'm anxious about and the anxiousness that i'm holding the the perfect coupling those of those two things. The anxiousness i'm holding is the result and the feedback energy which is become exhausted keeping this this fearful structure in place. Exactly they just they just fit there together. And so i think that's just a a a useful can a picture for me to to get myself into that space and then Let it go as much can and and maybe even look at that structure enough to kind of pick out some absurdities in it and false things in it so i can drop it a little bit intellectually as well. Yeah that's right. Yeah and and you said something last week to that. I found very interesting and see if i am am bring feeding it back properly like kind of who we who actually are as you know who who who. The essence of this david avatar. That is here that. That's that's different than than the jasper. That's there even though as as a spirit. There's something very much the same. But as this incarnation did being david. It's really According to what. You're you're saying the or my organs are the ones that are creating the large largest share of that of that david. It's it's not. It's not that there's this david personality here. That has a bunch organs. It's not like that. It's not like okay david's here. And then here's these are the organs at. He's accessing to digest the food to feed david. It's the the movement and expression of the organs is what everyone is seeing as david. Yeah i think so. I really i really really do because you know our organs even think about that word organised like you know. It's like the keyboard right. You know it's a it's a it's a musical instrument and that's what our ogan are. All of our organs are instruments which you being played upon by something bigger by the you know the a particular dance or particular combination of all of the planets and all of the stars each of which have their own character in our mass has its own character and venus and saturn and jupiter etc. They all have like a subtle gravity. And somehow our organs which again in these very very soft vulnerable things which is stowed away right inside of us you know for safe keeping we've got the muscles and the bones and fisher on the outside to to protect them pretty much you know what our deepest most human most You know authentic essence is is precious. Bodily essence is is is stored within our organs. The so an and again. It's like the hyun that they are playing is literally the day. They're being played upon by in a way like kind of big musicians by the musician of mars and the musician of your uranus and pluto and saturn etc. You know all of these kind of fixed archetypes fixed aspects. Which have their own tone. You know i think even nasa You can go on youtube and find like the like the tone of sutton. And it's i think it's it's pretty. It's pretty scary. Actually the time of sutton in the you can listen to the tone of jupiter and the tone of venus. You know the kind of have their own tones. And they're all linked in to our organs in absolutely unique ways for for all of us you know because we were all born at different times in different places you know when the the heavenly bodies were in different Different positions in the heavens. So all of us were getting kind of you know. We'll share an experience. But you know we've all got like different yet different degrees of the planetary in this and the stella bodies are coming coming through us. So you know that's really meant to be further for the good of all. You know that we have these. You know the so in a way like a we kind of just accept this in in spiritual thinking about like a microcosm of the universe. But they really are you know they you know we re we do have the the universe is playing out in a upon the organs of our of our buddy and and really best case scenario whispers to be kind of just really holding the space for this moment you know and just allowing the best possible tune the best possible Tune of all of our all of our organs playing together to create our lives. You know to create it through being a builder all being a baker or being a candlestick maker. You know being a teacher musician or whatever we do but it comes out in the most beautiful authentic tuneful counter positive way and it's of course it's still. They're still going to be some mine. Eckes melancholy and stuff in there But it's ultimately i feel it's that melancholy is never really gonna take over the whole song. It's it's gonna make it more interesting whereas at the moment you know so we. It's almost like the song had just become craziest. Become just like you know the like we see actually music you know with kind of satanic black metal and you know and kind of You know kind of you know rap you know which is just so misogynistic and you know it's la- it just really seems to be an expression of the You know the the cry for help of our in a world because of the way that we're managing our lives both internally and externally Fascinating you covered a lot of ground on that one. I was. I kinda got pinged on the. I've always loved the phrase the music of the spheres that that really just captured my attention when i was just a little kid and but what i just kinda felt from what you're saying is we. We can play our bodies. Our organs and our life is the instrument to play the music of the spheres. Exactly that's right. Which is so i as a kid. I always imagined the heavens out there kind of ringing with some even though i remember learning little boy. There's no sound and space. There's no sound because there's no air so there's no sound that i still imagine there was some sort of you know. Angelic chorus of beautiful crystalline tones. That were out there. And now it's like oh i can. I can participate. I can. I can riff on those two i can. I can join that. I can join that that tune but like if we want to be a good player we have to you know join. I mean you can't if you're gonna jam with other musicians you gotta agree on what you're playing and how you're playing it and and move in harmoniously with it. Yeah well i think that this. Sorry to interrupt their you know. We've we've spoken in the past about you know either joining god's party or joining kind of lucifer's party you know it's like joy and god's party is really everything as it is right now if you if you kind of really just just relax and you know and everything is. It is in the way that it wants to be in. You've pretty much find that that kind of heavenly choir just plays itself through through all of us in a way which which just engenders complete cooperation without any effort until or if he joined lucifer's party you know and you want some jab and you want the next one and the next one the next one you know and you know and you believe in the need for you. Know kind of chemical medicines in wisconsin stuff You know you really going against their the the genius of the plan which is already set up doesn't have to have to do anything about the planet just unfolding by itself so any any step away from that enter into lucifer's plan Is gonna be like opening up a big kind of whip us. You know because it's like you know it's it's it's it's gonna be bad. It's going to be bad without a doubt. It's not going to be good. It's to have lights going to be good for good in a superficial way. It might seem good for like you might take a drug or something and you feel really good but then again you're setting in purifying you'll pbs. You know because your body is going to have to recover from that afterwards. You know you're being really selfish. You getting that that fix of that drug for while and in a way you know. You're basically borrowing time from from time from the future of of your own life. You know you're going to pay it back. Well well well well described in. Well said in. God's party though. I mean thank you for putting it so boldly because when you when you were putting it that way. I realized you know very often. I'm not in god's party. Because yeah because i don't i still have these inklings of mistrust of how the universe is going to play out and have some fear. That's there i have to like really open myself up to get into that. Okay then when. I really get into that space i can feel. Okay here. we are now. Everything is let let the moments common unfold as they come. Let like that. But if i'm careful and honest with myself as as i moved through the more mundane aspects of my day i think there's a there's an underlying platform of little bit of mistrust about the universe. I better i better. You know rely. I'm listening to lucifer's advice about will be careful. You know we've got this. I got this little this little thing that might shore up some defenses for you. You know you can't you and and when you put it so plainly like that it was good here good here to kind of shake me out of that. Like yeah why. Why in this moment am. I have lost my faith. It's because it seriously man takes like it. We wages indoctrinated right from the start that we need to do a job. We need to do something and we we we. We just have this very very basic in a feeling that that is who that's who i am. You know it's like when. I find my purpose when i do this when i do that. Then i'm then i will be fulfilled but it's not like that you know it's really not and this is why you i take you know every now. And then i take a big papa. Kind of popular spirituality. Because you know it's often wakon told there's really nothing to do you know this You know well. The lazy man's guide to to enlightenment this kind of thing and it's really not true. There is nothing to do. But there is something to be and that you know and that really is to be present and again not just present As you know kind of devoid as as as choice awareness but to literally engage in the in the conscious hard on that we've talked about in in past shows to be really present to be loving and to be kind and i'll tell you this i for me. This is stuff that i've just learned You know it's taken a long time because I mean i remember as a kid you know it was the environment you know with my at home and at school as well it was just there was no love tool. There's really no lovin. I even remember sometimes coming across a loving person and thinking they were weak. Think that thinking that that was a weak person a naive or just a stupid or a weak person. You know because. I was so so defensive and so in fear and so angry. And so yeah. I everything that i'm talking about in we're discussing i've i've kind of this. Just been something in my avatar in my body that said listen. Fuck you you know. I'm not gonna put up with this. You know the kind of like a half assed idea of spirituality. Which is what i threw myself into you when i first realized something had to change in my life but there was still something in my body was saying. No you know just kind of seeing this as an illusion and sing my buddies illusion. It doesn't work you know. I don't so much feedback of fear and and diety and anger so it was just something other now. They just what it was. It was just like the the my body was just my emotions. Were so sort of unhappy. Was kind of like a really bad girlfriend. Rabat y for something. And i realized that i knew i didn't want to kill myself. I thought that was really stupid thing to do so i was. I'd really have to respond to it and really can start listening. And i realized that. Well fuck you know Even though i just had no love in my life earlier on it's all about duty and you know that was the most potent positive thing you know that you raise the child that kind of thing and don't let them starve but a lot of negativity anyway and not blame parents for that. They were raised in the same way. But you know it was. That was the only player. It was just like kind of being scientists. That i just had to find. Well what makes this stop. you know. it's really horrible. Living in this constant sell mainly self judgment thinking. I'm an asshole. Oh you know or other people are ourselves it was like how can what do i do. How can i respond to this. And i again i found that you know i just have to be so fucking present you know i literally have to be as the i the the spirit i have to be incarnated. I have to be here. I have to be now may in particular i think because i'm so you know being like an energy guy in a mystical kind of guy and this is like how i make my living to you know Under so sensitive. I'm picking up on energies. You know so so so quickly and so so so fully. And the really the only way that i can protect myself against this is by being here by being present by incarnating otherwise my organs are just going to beep beep beep beep danger. Danger danger five g. Or you know. Some kemp's rial overhead or some negative person over there or you know whatever it is. You know if. I'm not present. Then you know my own organs because they're so highly strung negative way but they're so sensitive in like a good way because they can pick up on the good stuff to that they're going to be playing really distressing tune. You know you. And i and i don't like being the the you know being literally kind of being bathed in the music of a distressing tune distressing thoughts distressing emotions. Didn't like that one. You know so i i. It's it's i don't want to say it's hard work in like you know. Kind of backbreaking work. But it's hard working in basically know bringing ourselves back again and again and again you know we. We have become so conditioned in the past to find salvation in like well. Maybe if i had more money than wouldn't have so much self judgment. Or maybe. If i had a really hot girlfriend or you know maybe if like at a really amazing business or all of those worldly things you know now and i haven't really had like you know huge blight worldly success in this life but i know within myself i have had you know worldly kind of nice things You know it was nice but you know it didn't really hit the spot now. This is the only thing that hits. The spot is by know being the master being there. Being present only missed nice for ourselves not just being present in the body but again you know being loving and kind and and smiling with within ourselves this is how we how we can serve. And how we you know Skewered our our own precious bodily fluids fascinating. Because if you're doing that then this whole world constructed world of anxiety and fear is cut off from its power source exactly because you're holding power source you're holding your presence in the bodily power source present here so it's not powering these things. It's powering where it was meant to power and so yeah so then runs. Naturally your precious fluids are vitalized. An happy yeah and and you're not charging up that whole thing up there definitely definitely and i think for me something. That's like really tell you. David it's like it's such a coming to the real the to the truth of yourself and the authenticity of yourself. It's it's such a In a why such like a narrow way you know it really is like a very narrow way and like a a way in which you have to be like constantly open to the happiness being something that you didn't think it was in the past. I mean for instance. You know. I i would have thought in the past you know. Having you know being like a plan guitar and singing and writing songs and haven't been told by the people that i'm good at this and you know i should do it more. I kind of would've thought in the past you know that. Let by really incarnating That those things that i was focused. You know the musical side of me. In particular. In the past i was focusing so much upon would become stronger. I want to do that more. And i'm actually finding that it's kind of the benefit would change but the most particularly like since i'm living in this tent and i'm really niger in an i'm able to divine happiness in like such a real subtle way i'm finding that I'm just not moved to do music. And i'll tell you that that's been like kind of like a. I've been into music since i was like you know music my whole life. You know whether. I've been therapist to wh- Music promoter in the past really music you know and great bands like the doors for me and the beatles and led zeppelin you know and the great singer songwriters has always been like my spouse my trucks really and other thing. I've just really have taken solace from when i've been suffering and uh and i find that as i come into myself and i really just you know i find like an absence of suffering and just a very subtle kind of happiness and easy bliss. The i'm not moved in that direction anymore and i. This is a big one man seriously enough. I didn't trust the process. You know got big being in. Let's say god's party so among they would still be some doubts you know they would. Just be this doubt. But what's wrong with me. You know why you know. I need to do something else to bring that bag and we'll have more things to say but i've spoken enough so let's assassinating this. Is this very fascinating. Jim was he said you had to you. Had to be prepared to to to discover happiness has a different meaning. Yeah yeah. I think that i think that's because if you're not if well for me if i'm not prepared to do that then there's there's no way that this thing will ever stop because if i've still got this firm laka that happiness at still gonna get there somehow and so the game is still a foot lucifer's game in a sense or or i'm not fully and god's party because i've decided what's gonna make god's party good or not and i'm kind of saying is not really good right now because happiness is still you know maybe the the other side of the room or something like that. Yeah well said man. Yeah we will not shelled right. Fastening you do you remember what you had else to say on their day to add on it because i think that was a that was well. I i really appreciate that. Yeah very nice cool. Well you know i i. Yeah several things. I i remember even though i didn't get on well with my parents particularly my father I i remember that my dad You know not a as a numerous dumb dad's numerology you know on a found that you know like deep within me was kind of like a very spiritual man you know. It's just that for whatever reason you know. The the guy was like You know he was sort of quite negative and know cynical and wasn't able to let it out so much but I definitely saw remember when he was younger. Used to smoke cigars and he would drink. You know things like that. Never used to take it to excess. But i remember as he got older. And you know the if you times i would go back to visit my my mom. My dad and i tried to get my dad to come down the pub with me. You know when he would never want to go and always think you know. And i was really into rock and roll at that time you know and just you know into the whole hedonistic lifestyle and always thought the. My dad was really boring. You know because he didn't do anything until he did nothing. You didn't even smoke his cigars anymore. Thing get occasional like nip of whiskey at christmas or something like that but you know pretty much did nothing and i thought it was really really warring and so i think there was something in me. That just didn't want to be like my dad. You know because. I dislike my my my dad for what he was at that time and yet as i have gotten older i don't do anything now. I mean seriously nothing. Don't even drink coffee you know. Ot anything with caffeine in. Because i know. I just having tuned into my own body. The you know my my happiness really comes from just everything being clear and being open and being being pure and when i indulge in these things and it's just me i'm not saying it's true for anybody else but it just it seems to condemn everything down and everything down so that was sort of interesting. You know looking back that i was really rebelling against my dad for longtime but also look back in and i out. I know this is very personal but hopefully you know it might help you or my alpa our audience but you know just think if you've been striving after something your whole life and there might be like real event horizons and you think that you've been moving into that and and things would start to get go more your way but maybe you noticed that there were several times when life really closed the door on really really strongly and that happened with me with music. I mean several times. I mean our be going back to You know to britain and For having lived in thailand people saying it sounds great. You should really go back. You know and i pray brian berlin. You know caller got a nice guitar. Going to go back to england and recording software was a my computer and pretty much as soon as i stepped into the country I got. I got really sick with the hepatitis. B Mike guitar br really super nice. Martin guitar The neck just true. It just came off the body it just broke and my computer just died with everything on it. It was like june jiang like that. You know and and i was like fuck man. This is happened before. Like two or three times. When i tried to do it in the past and i thought you know it's like even at that time. This is several years ago now. And i thought wow the universe just doesn't want me to do it but still there. Was this man part of me. That said now you know i need to. I need to just push through this. But seriously there were just these unmistakable event horizons when i would just i would change my whole life to do something and you know and i would be like in the in a way. Like in the the sort of the the disneyland of some tropical island in thailand. Where everybody's got kind of like me and smoking open. You know maybe kind of avoiding real life. And everything's nice in that environment. And i think wow i really wanted to take this back into the world and see if i can shine some light and it's like no fuck off you know and i and so it was clear to me in the past and i think that i had to set my own precious bodily fluids. Really you know so much And suffer so much and actually get to the point meeting with songwriting where it just became so laborious because there was just such tremendous resistance. Inside of me is like i don't want to do that. I don't wanna do that. But there's this would be this part. That will be trying to not be like my dad and you know. Try to be cool. And because i'm a good singer and people do it but it's it's not my dahmer. It's not like in do lots of things. Well you know burn doesn't matter because it's not. It's not my dharma head interesting. He think about it seems seems it would be. But the more were in tune with our body and holding this conscious hard on with our bodily organs and maintaining that that presidents. In god's party are dharma then it just is what comes exactly exactly and it's and again to the mind which like in my case wanting to be like if not like it wasn't like a new music would never be like you know super popular but i you know i wanted to make a living out of it and to make people happy with my music and And i just got you know. Now it's like there's something really intelligent inside was saying no. That's not way ogling and like my life is like really really super quiet living in a tent and ghana meditating and grima veggies and during this podcast with you and you know okay. Helping my clients with hypnotherapy numerology and get really good feedback from that the you know whatever. My ego was envisaging in the past. It ain't happening man in and an pardon me again like in my numerology the you know the i can see and my strategy to you know. It's like wow you look at that chart and you see that guys like really different. You know the good astrologer. I go to the go. Fuck you know you've got really different. Jar locker air quotes spiritual chart and slept the ego. The mind can feel that. And it's like yeah. Especially i kinda wanna shine and again. I think just like the lucifer trip you know. I wanna beat special even if you don't want be more special than anybody else it's like i want to be special. I want to help people. I wanna do this. I want to do that. And what am i what i'm actually finding is. It's kind of not like that. In a an and who knows maybe out of this may be you know they might be like throwing a ripple in a pond and the ripples ripple out and you know initial small ripple the butterfly flapping its wing does cause some major weather system on the other side of the world. Who knows but it's it's really not what i thought it was. And it's it's. I think this is a this is a good thing for all of us if we really want to find peace in a piece is to be open to the possibility that the trajectory that we have launched ourselves upon big fucking head trip might be setting in purifying are precious bodily fluids as we could certainly might right and and i mean if our bodily fluids have been sapped that trajectory is may have something to do with it unless the trajectory is a cleansing healing. One and it may be but Yeah i think. I think we have to well when you're in the that's party. The whole structural world that we create has no purpose did. It's it can be let go along with the trajectory. Yes exactly yeah. It doesn't have to be the trajectory that i have figured out must be the one. It's just the trajectory of the natural moment of myself present in this body in god's party exactly exactly and i i kind of i mean i can only speak from my own experience. I mean i. I do feel in a way you know being quote unquote like spiritual kind person. That like one of my. Maybe my major purpose in the world is is literally just you know just being alive you know is somehow and these crazy times. Just just being an incarnation of of light. You know of of You know basically holding god space you know and i think in these times i think that is that is enough. You know in anything else Is you know opening up a healing center or something like that we would like to do. is also good. Know but i think that in i feel in in my case it simply just being present you know and and In any kind of arrogant way absolutely not. You know just what i is. Just you know being being points of light you know and i think that you know when enough people a little points of light and there's some kind of grid is is is created and You know something good starts to happen. I think that's what we need in the world right less people going out and saying we should need to save the earth. And you know consciously go out and create the ceiling center again. I really think it's just about relaxing back into god's party which to the ego and the mind is a really boring party. Yeah yeah really is boring. Yeah boring. I think is the right word exactly. Yeah and it. It's boring until suddenly it's like. Whoa no it's not is a until the until the relaxation of. Oh boy this is the moment. Yeah yeah exactly beautiful. Well we've just about gone our certain we're in god's party and enjoying the yeah good place to finish in. Yeah wonderful really nice chatting with you today. Jasper thanks for showing a lot of this stuff. It seemed like We got a lot of your personal journey. That brought you into where you're at now. And i think that's useful because All of our journeys are personal Even though they're obstructed there's something the same between him but we've all got our personal thing that that bringing us along and then it's nice nice to hear yours. I appreciate it. Thanks brother thanks brother and thanks for tuning in again to all of listeners and you just have a fantastic amazing week and stay conscious. Brothers and sisters.

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#33:  The Shining (Stanley Kubrick)

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#33: The Shining (Stanley Kubrick)

"On this episode. We'll be looking at one of the greatest horror films ever made the shiny. We will follow jack. Wendy and danny torrance as they navigate the overlook hotel. The story is based on. Stephen king's novel from nineteen seventy seven. It starts jack. nicholson shelley. Divall scatman cruthers and danny lloyd. This is another masterpiece from stanley kubrick. Join us burt. Snowbound supernatural adventure in this nineteen eighty psychological horror film. Welcome to this week's episode of dope average film. Podcast listen to our hosts talk about your favorite movies. Never know what you're gonna get discuss new films with our mystery guests from all over the world. Our guest speak freely about their experiences as directors at wrap everybody writers producers actors or contribution. They have in. The film industry is beverage film. Janet's welcome back to adult beverage film. Cast as we all laugh at the intro. So hey we've got a special guest with us today. And i mean honor to have tony stash. He's just coming off set right there. So welcome thanks for coming and staying up late with us to record this thank you. Thank you for allowing the stash to tag along suppressive. An honor to be here. Well we're glad to have you and and we know you'll have a quite a bit of extra insight into some th this film and all the good stuff that goes with it and i even heard a little rumor that you might have stayed at the hotel in the past. But did you buy the sweatshirt. That's right sweatshirt. yes carpet going. She has the carpet row house. A car that anybody. That's not watching. Doesn't look like the maze. Well we also have got patrick here Trich and squeakers here enlarge squeaker squeezer a man bun and of course. Yes he does. A man on on china hand. He's had some different looks during the whole corentin. That's been like watching the beatles. Progress throughout so right now. Is yoko phase. That's right well. Let's just up right in on this film. Let's talk about it so tell them what it is. It is the At this point we've already introduced it so we don't we did. We can just skip right on past that part of it and it never say the name again and we don't have to say the name that way no one calls it the sheeting so my first question is is this your favorite stanley kubrick film. And we'll start with our guest hosting stash. I have a pretty terrible confession here. I have seen the shining met. We will not name again. We'll dame at twenty five times. I've seen it and i've seen two thousand one space odyssey rear four times but just off hand right now two beers in. I can't really think of anything else. That i've seen that he's drink and i'm sorry to say that i'm sure you're all just in awe an angry with me a little bit that you haven't seen dr strangelove one. Yeah yeah but he didn't that one films didn't know he didn't that. I'm sorry totally. Totally confused with your coaching with active doctor. Strange one the marvel cinematic universe. Yes which he didn't direct his unfortunately here dropped out and i thought you said dr sleep and that's not anyway. What are you drinking tonight. He's there's a lot of abc's. I think those are two to the better one. So this move on and we'll kind of go through because everybody's got a different film that they like or whatever so laura your thoughts shining i think the best out of all the ones i've seen and i have seen very few i slept through. Dr strangelove. never finished a pack and try again. Max line clockwork orange really really good kind of fife from the top spot there yet and he seemed that too i see now. He's legally yes he did and he liked it but i'm gonna say the shinhan is favorite. Yeah like patrick. How about you. it's funny. I was gonna say i haven't seen that many Kubrick films either. But i've seen most of the ones that we mentioned I don't know. I'm always fond of two thousand one space odyssey. Because every time i see it i think i like i go. I don't remember that forty five minutes of the movie because it is eighteen hours long so it used to be the monkey movie to me. And then i found out there was more after the monkeys and then i went into the hal movie that i found out. There's more after how far as kubrick's still making more to that movie and will be released soon and just show up on my tv screen but the shining his movies have long long. Dr strangelove actually. Isn't that long. But it feels that way sometimes feels a little bit long until you get to slim pickings right god. He was awesome. So i don't know i don't have a good answer for that the shining the more i see it the more i go. Okay all right but it's not it doesn't stand out as my favorite coober. What is your favorite. I'm saying i don't know to be honest with our orange again. When i was a child so i know lot of fucked up shit. A lot of fucked up shit with as a kid explains everything. How about you. I'm on probably his nineteen hundred. Short flying padre now getting not seem hike know. I probably clockwork first movie of his assault. That's probably my favorite. I do like dr strangelove. I like like the others have not seen all the pretty different movies every. It's not like he has this one Niche that he does. It's funny. I still blame him for a even though he was dead and spielberg directed it. But i think kubrick kubrick had a strong influence on that movie Was long well. But i think it was his project before he died and then that could be making this all up for it ends like four different times. And you're like wait. Does it's like return of the king and you go it. That's not the ending. Okay and then you get to the actual ending a nearly. She's christ wrap it up. He well he He originally just didn't think it was right for him and he thought spielberg was the better fit and that was the reason for that so i thought he had died. Think he i'm not sure. He was dead at that time so happy. When he saw it he died on your so. But what's your favorite. Can't you know i i go. Between the shining i think is an excellent film Two thousand one space odyssey is just. I mean it's amazing to me. Just got this really interesting. But then i like clockwork orange and i like a movie. That i didn't like the first time i watched. It was eyes wide. Shut and that sex movie. I forgot about that and i did not like it and then i've watched it since and the more i watch it the more i really appreciate that film and like the development and how it works in just that kind of uncomfortableness all the way through. I'm not a barry lyndon fan. You know there's a lot about that once everyone. Yes yes that was not a box office hit and it actually it. It was the film that came right before this and this is kind of what pushed him that he needed to have a hit and so he kind of jumped in with kubrick said. Oh i've got after that bomb. I've got to come up with something on top of it. you know. It was a very slow boring film pretty right linda. That's a period piece right right. And then he ever seen that. You've actually planned to jump into. Napoleon was going to jump into napoleon and then someone else came out with the film at the same time. And then that just got shot down and then the shining became a full full fledged running at that point so but i think the thing about his films. Each one of them is so different. You know even if you go back in the earlier films. They're just each one's got a simple very complicated in a lot of ways but simple and other ways like part of that makes you think they're slow and berry but there's so much in there and each one of them. I think that you know he. He puts in a lot of different pieces. I stanley kubrick was a huge chess player. And i think the shining is kind of like playing chess. You're pouring and slow playing chess. Yes corn and slow. If somebody wins it feels like no one's one all the chess fans are gonna hate both of them. But that's what. I think the shining is kind of feels like to me is a chess game. And you're playing this piece of know. He's constantly moving peace forward and moving it back and night one of the things that really jumped out me about the shining and hmi watch that kinda of get always pick up little details a little more pieces. That was the way that he would introduce something. Pull it back and then introduce it and then bring it back with more impact in the next next shot so Examples would be like he would introduce you know he brings in little i don't know how to really say this without too much but he brings in parts of a script and in any edits like back. If you'll notice it and then you'll come back to it later. So it's one of those things that he does in this one that i don't see any of his other films really we're jumping back and forth into into the process so i say that i mean like he'll jump from jack to her and maybe it was because there wasn't that many characters in this that he did that to try to keep and it was also like you said slow to keep your attention so he would jump out from the edits but but i thought that work because each time would come back with more sort of And aspects or also like also like trying to get you like a book where like okay right to the point of something interesting happening in happening and then next chapter starts in. It's really different character that you're in. You're like well shit. Now keep reading to get back to where it was a teasing you and teasing you. You know until the books and then there's one in the next one in the series of the book that you're reading like shit that's a cliffhanger to didn't if you guys are ladies read the steven king book trend i should. I haven't either. And it's one of those things taylor watched the other one i even weber is actually really liked that. It's topiary at the end. It's not a maze of icy mist. But there are these topiary. He's animal topiary is that it's fucking coolish shit and apparently closer to the book. I had heard it's true. That's i heard. Stephen king wasn't happy with the The coupe version because it strayed from his stuff so much and i heard kubrick thin. Really give a shit. Why would they make her a very lyndon care about anything. Right guy only had an i q over two hundred so you know he according to him. Now that's according to so. I mean he was a compulsive. Compulsive reader compulsive knowledged person. And he's just constantly. There's a lot of. I think miscommunication about who kubrick really was. And you know you hear from one side that he was like this jerk and all this and then you hear from people that worked with him. There's no he was and that he was like his way or the highway. There was only his way but that wasn't the case. Everybody that worked really close with him actually said no he collaborated was very collaborative. Wanted to know from every single person working on set what their thoughts were on things and he used that to build his. You know build to get the best so he was always looking to try to improve and he was super super smart and very comprehensive just like he thought about everything every little tiny detail I listened to a Hard cast recently. I can't remember which podcasts it is. Unfortunately but it was. it was a interviewing a dp. Who is a dp now but he was an electric on the shining and he was saying that stanley was like the kind of guy that would he wanted like. You're saying he wanted to know how everything worked where he would. Once he got to like trusting this guy. Like or i think maybe a gaffer you might have been the gaffer but stanley call this guy up and be like hey i heard about this new light like what do you think about this late. I'm going to get like six of these lights and having my house by tomorrow at noon. Come over and we'll play with them and figuring out like that kind of thing where he wasn't just like i'm going to like write and direct. He's like i'm going to figure out the lighting. We're gonna you know. He was just hands on with everything right and he built. He like custom built like lenses So you know. Just for barry lyndon he wanted he got certain lenses to be able to shoot certain things but he would do it constantly You know when he couldn't find something he wanted he would have it. Designed you know not that he was the actual builder on it a lot of times. But he was the one that was setting it all in place. Yeah the nasa lenses. They used for landon point seven five or something so he could shoot like Candlelight to light sees something right right and he was able to That's right lyndon vary in land there and then that was really done on a wide scale until digital right. Were they got into that kind of craziness where you know a light or match yeah. Until recently right filmed and recorded that level but digital sensors are getting so much better and and so you're subtracting light more than you're adding like you would've alkaloid and believe you. Do you think kubrick would have liked digital sure that he might have been one of the ones that sort of faulted. I don't think that he would have been a jump into it. I don't know it looks good now. He might be one to go. I want to play with this and see this. I think yeah but even the looks still. You know five x directors who were like for being like. It's not good enough. You know like christopher nolan ryan anderson who else there's a lot of guys that are still quinton still. Yeah right chrome. There's people that are like no matter. How good did you look digital. Does look good looks great. They're like it's not. It's a so so this film you know basically took a year to make. What do you think the budget was on this film. What was it originally. Just blew me a note. The budget was to to the full budget to make the film. All it actually got a low ball and say fifteen million ocean one hundred dollars not one dollars through. It was three fifty. Everybody's gotta guess in there. Well it's a small cast primarily one location right from For a year. So i guess that probably really check. Saddam doesn't match nine thousand nine hundred ninety. I wasn't that far off. Did you say nineteen nineteen million dollars. That's only four million off on here. I know that's pretty good. I mean when. I watch his films for a whole year of film. I don't think you guys were. You're figuring a film that maybe works for thirty days. This was an entire year So i think the two fifty would have been the thoughts. I would have been and especially at that time with you. Know kubrick and attached and all that. But that's the thing about him. He loved working with small crews and small Teams to make things strove crew to get. You know it had to be almost impossible because you're working in the small cruise but they're small crews can accomplish the lot you know how much how much of that time was spent actually shooting you know. I don't know how much of that i know. It took a year of editing after. Because that's a real hotel right. That's a real. This is the best part about that is a real hotel but most of it was filmed in a studio built the rooms and all that pretty much most of it was built in a studio so that that's the part. That's kinda surprising to. Because when i watch it i feel. It's the you know. it is the hotel. i think. Feel that we're the movie fails at absolutely. And i think you know tiny actually stayed there so did it look a little bit like the hotel or did it. The whole story about the hotel is it's actually in reality. it's called the stanley hotel. It's an estes park colorado and it looks very similar but it's inspiration or the hotel. They created moving so the whole story behind is when stephen king was he was staying there with his wife and like a newborn baby or something and he sleeping in room at. This is another thing two years now though. I don't remember the real room. I think it's one seventeen. Is the real room to seventy two seventy three to seventeen to seventeen to seventeen this real room number. He was sleeping in that room when he had a horrific nightmare about basically the plot of shine and then he immediately woke up and started writing it and then so he was inspire Rubial hotel to write oriented shiny. And i went there my girlfriend and i laura shot laura. If he doesn't we went to took a we took a took a weekend basically so in october every year minus cova year. The stanley hotel has a shining ball party around halloween. So we went for a weekend and pay basically people just dress up its giant halloween costume party and you get drunk in this haunted one of the most haunted hotels in united states and it was amazing. Absolutely amazing the guy in the ferry pig suit is he there. I'm sure that there was a guy dressed up like that but I was giving out free free to give free blowjobs nicely. I wonder how much that pays a tough man. This pandemics harsh man. I i mean. I have to wear a furry outfit and blow hotel guests in colorado. I guess you know well as more if you have. The back end of your pants are ripped trap door open. God is what was the case was was yeah. I don't know if i'm reading. I've ever been on and i suggest that anyone who wants the whole cova thing is over with if you are a fan of shining or just the fan of traveling in general and you like halloween absolutely go to the stanley hotel and stay night there. It's creepy it's weird. It's old as l. It's on and i would go back anytime. Is there a amaze. There's a tiny tiny little maze there on the building and made out of plastic metal. Another movie. sure. I'm sure we're i. I didn't know if that was really like. I always wanted to go. I don't know if you guys ever. So rose read that stephen king miniseries about the haunted house. I wanted to go there like a fun. play. I mean you get killed. Apparently but i'd like to be every price check our friends. The coffee klatch crew. Okay there the digital watercolor podcast for your favorite movies and tv shows. This is hosted by our friends. Jason and christina. The podcasts breaks down series. Such as game of thrones westworld. Mister robot. Magicians currently there on the stand on the cbs. All access that will give you mixture of character analysis easter eggs and behind the scenes secrets and fund theories. The listeners are huge. Part of the conversation with clashes comments voicemails and mvp polls is a key of every episode. They also have interviews with your favourite actors from the cast and authors and more. Come meet at the willard colour and joining the coffee. Klatch crew check them out. Download their latest episodes on any podcast. Apper head over to the coffee klatch. Crewe dot com. That's klatch with a k. Learn more about these great friends and enjoy their podcast. So what are you guys all drink drinking. What's the drink of choice tonight with a shining should be bourbon. It should be should be. But what does he call it. What does he call it in that. What was the term. Well he called it. That's it thank you but nobody striking that. So what are you guys drinking. I'm drinking shiny water shining. Water shining stash. There is shiny water to when a different kind striking a natural line white claw shiny water. And it's delicious shannon water here with a look at pa from highland gaelic l. So um hala gala kale but highly highland blute rights ruling. Were they out of bottles. James my work. Oh shit we should have been drinking that. That's like from that time period isn't it. Yes what did you say. You're tricking lor laur. But i'm drinking the khattab brewery. Lemon ginger zombie sounds good. It is really good. Really good squeaker squeaker. Drinking your own urine. aren't you well. I strangely. I've been drinking bourbon every podcast lately except tonight so off book good job. Maybe drinking tito's lemonade thanks. I didn't have any soda. Tonics would've been a good once upon a time in mexico. Translate in patrick. What are you drinking. Never there shining water signing mortar again. Training know philo constipated today. I've got one question. That's edgy could do five months in isolation in that hotel could you do it any hotel or that one that when you're the only one could you do what the family does in that for five months after this quarantine yes easily. 'cause it pay pay's who cares. Act now very stash. is the hotel. have the shine. is it haunted it it. We everything that happens in the movie. Would you be able to do it now. Wait am i required. Kill my family. Not necessarily is that naked lady. Naked city lady gonna hug me. That's a dealbreaker. She was so happy though like she was so jolly she's an ugly old naked titi lady. Who's dead of course she's happy. She got a little jack. She got a little bit. An you love going to be there so so was the first time he got saw this film like your very first time probably for me in high school and member. It's funny. I've seen this movie. Probably got ten or twelve times my entire life and they're still watch this movie and they're still things that i'll go. I don't remember that this must be the director's cut i don. I do that with kubrick movies period. I don't remember that it is slow and you kinda were forced to watch it this time so you can watch his mother fuckers. I saw this. When i was a kid it was on so i saw a lot of it when i was a kid and then i went through the period of time where i keep telling you guys all the time that every time scap man crowder shows up which is what like ten or fifteen minutes into the movie. I would pass out and fall asleep and wake up during the maze at the end and have no idea what happened for the two hours and ten minutes between those two things and it wasn't until maybe three or four years ago that i saw it beginning to end at the cinema for their halloween halloween thing it was. It was nice to see it all at sitting and on the big screen. Don't do that. i'll get a fall asleep and at times get talks. Recall time i well my my i. The shining was okay. What about your other. First time that you're giggling about house about that. I'm drinking vodka lemonade. I was right. Mr women you know. The first time. I really really saw. I think was that airs. Lead during the retro horror series jess. I saw it on the big screen. And i hadn't really watched it and seeing a hadn't really watched it in the square format or was it in the wide screen format. Well usually screen totally. But i had seen it before in the square tv. 'cause that's what i saw everything wide-screen when we saw it at actually surely if it was then it's not it's not the original cut that's thinking thinking where it was it was done. Shot it in water version. But they make they had a mad at it out because he wanted to make sure you know that was what he wanted to have it in. Yeah i feel we saw. Yeah because i probably went. What's his cheap ass print they got. Yeah that's right. What's the that creepy. What was that creepy. Boost the lighthouse from this last year. was not in a square format that was in a square format. And once you get used to it at does it just takes a minute or two to get used to it. I've been watching a stephen king's the damned the original one from one thousand nine now of the run from nineteen ninety-four rob lowe and stuff and the dvd. I have tried to make it into wide screen at. They weren't doing that on tv at the time. So everybody looks weird. Little bit widen. Why thicker list. And i can't find a way to yeah. I can't find a way to get it ralph so that it looks well. No rob lowe takes his shirt off. And i want. Wow he put on weight for this role and wait a minute. And he didn't just booster huge but sideways. It's weird so yeah. I think we saw the square. When did you. i can't when i was. I was about eight years old and stayed up and got onto channels. That i wasn't supposed to be watching to watch it and i realized that that was not the smartest thing then because i didn't want to tell my parents that i was like scared but then the next day it was playing during the day and and i called it and it during the day so it was about eight years old when i did but when we yeah when i was a way back way back so you're not as old as i am. I am pretty close pretty. You weren't eight years old. Came out in nineteen thousand nine hundred eighty right where it was later on so you know exactly so so it would have been later than that so i must have been later than that. I guess but seem that you'd probably still where peeing your bed. I was still sleeping. Well that's the case. I'm still eight years old. i would. I would definitely in the pre early days now. I think you know. I really don't know the age. That i was the first time i did watch it. Did those kind of principles. I went started watching it. And i was like. I don't want to be watching this by myself. And then i watched it during the day. And then i was like. Wow this is really really good and and then you know watch it. I got something more out of it. And then you know after you watch it. And then you start to hear all the everybody's interpretations of it you get a completely different feel for this film like it's there's so many different ways of this has been going on and and room two thirty seven. You know shows you completely different versions of what this is all about to tell everyone what that is candidate laura laura what you described the movie. We're talking about Room chair thirty. Seven is a documentary about people's interpretations of shining. i think from twenty fifteen and it's really fascinating They brought up that. I didn't ever think about something. Give it give some examples. Because i don't like about the lady now represent something now. okay. I figured they would talk about the lady they did not. I figured they would talk about the blowjob scene with the guy. They did a lot of native. American imagery references symbol zone. And absolutely i watched it again. That all came through much more than ever did and that one. I think stuck with me. The the interpretation about it being lake though the white people came in and just committed genocide and now this is the the literally the blood on the land coming back and you know they built. They built the hotel on was supposedly as an indian burial ground. They killed more indians building it supposedly so the land is already full blood. And then they decorate the hotel. The hotel is full of artifacts that have obviously been or appropriated and it's like embedded in the walls. It's literally carved into the walls. And i didn't catch that on the first few times. I mean i've probably seen it four or five times. And i never thought that at all that stayed with me i think more than anything else. There was also one where they play the film backwards and forwards so stanley stanley kubrick had made a statement that the film was designed to be played forward and backwards and so they actually play them at the same time. And it's really strange how it comes up and there's some really interesting overlays that come into it that you see when they do that and you know whether that was the case that he designed it that way that was one of the options and then the other option was that they designed you know he. He put a lot of references into the moon landing aspect of it that you know he was the guy that directed any sort of hints towards. You know we're things were done in the rooms and there's the polo a sweater and things like that and then there was one of the ones in that also. The had a talk of the how the rooms were different. And so there was real six different. I think it was six different of views of of how to see the film and different people's interpretations so it definitely opened your eyes to some different things or one of them was the nazis about the nazis like typewriter that german and so and then the typewriter changes colors. And what does that mean. Things appear and disappear throughout the film is that continuity errors. Or why were they designed for on purpose it you know like why would he that so thorough about everything and so detailed. Why would he make a mistake like that. And there's lots of those in there there's like the situation I don't think they actually talked about it on that. But the ages of the kids of the twins. You know you know. They're eight or ten eight air says eight and ten. Yeah which is. They're not twins if that's the case so there's a lot of little things like that that were throughout the film. The drinking his drinking actually was another one that kind of stuck out with me where he was on three months or he much dry right but they talked about like three years earlier in parts so there was like all these little things like that. That didn't match up but know i. I wonder if he did those on purpose. Or if it was in the fact that they'd film from a year and the you know they just slip through their continuity errors i. I'm not sure which way. I doubt i doubt that too. And and the thing about the the one lady in the documentary that makes a map of the layout of the hotel and she tells you about the impossible window and omens office the guy who's like the the manager of the hotel like you watch after you see that and you think oh you know that's just outside. There's just a window there now. There's literally no way that there could be a window right there in that spot and so he's like literally redirecting you throughout the whole thing. One of the things. I think stanley kubrick said to jack. Nicholson what they set was you. Don't try and photographed the reality. You try and photograph the photograph of the reality which always stuck with me so that he's trying to give you this interpretation of his thoughts on why that is not taking it. So truly like by the book i guess. Technically he's giving you his thoughts on what he's feeling of it and his you know his Aspect of the screenplay and i and i think that's an interesting way especially when you're taking a book and he was really good at taking a book and changing it to make the story kind of flow better because i think a lotta times. His his books were better than the actual books or his his Filming better than than the books. So do you agree with that or do you not agree with them with that. He that is that you should be able to do that. Should you be able to take that. And say i'm gonna go off of the book and change it to your thoughts or you have to be able to do that because you can't just be a prisoner to the book because there are some things you can't do from book to a movie and they just don't make sense so you have to be able to have some artistic license and the ad that i agree I read the us zimin. Recollect mccarthy's the road read that. I haven't read that. But i've heard great. It's fantastic. It was so good that i literally in college sat down opened the book up one morning and read the entire book that day. I just read the whole now. It's fantastic and made a movie. And i was extremely excited. I like this is amazing. I just read this book. I'm can't watch a movie. And i watched the movie in. The movie was literally like age for page. The book and i was disappointed. Yeah really you weren't satisfied. Not at all i was like i agnes in my head. It's exactly what i imagined. It wasn't fun to watch. So that was when i changed. My is everyone because everyone always says the book's better. The book is better. you change you. Change the story in the movie. It's like but if it's exactly what the book is you honor. It's just it's a little bit more fun when you can see like an artist's interpretation of something you love in my opinion that would be perfect but yeah most of the time to get people to the buck with better. I don't you wanna talk about it. As opposed to as supposed to. Tony tony tony. Little boy Pale things it's like a sleep and he shows me sakes that when i wake up every remember ask you. They know he tells you things. Only tell me never to come as tony of until june thing about this place about the overlook hotel real hard. So what did you like about them. They may jump in not all at once. Now yes okay. i'll go. i mean the cinematography was good. Sure and the acting was pretty good. Shelly devolves creepy. She looks like a human ferret. She looked rat boy as a a wife. If you've ever seen rat boy anyway sorry as you so shelly but the biggest thing in this movie for me that i liked was the sound design. I thought it was fucking amazing. When danny is got that not bake wheel because that would be a copyright infringement but the thing that's basically a big wheel that he's riding around on the floor and when it's on the carpet it's soft and then when it hits the floor and it's quiet coup. I thought that was amazing. The home bom the The music and i don't want to call it a score but the music was phenomenal. They were the. I don't know if it was a sample of screaming at one part. But there's this high pitched sound. That was used a number of times. That was just very very effective. Like when you see scott. Man's face that image. I sent you guys. Were just like freaking out. Yeah he's freaking out and you just hear that sound. I thought that was scary. Stuff stuff in the movie was the sound and the nicotine and the guy giving blow jobs. He was a little scary. That's what i like. Well you know. I like all those things. Those were those. Were all good things. I don't think i can single out any one thing. I liked it as as a whole you know it really just works. And i'm just drawn to and i don't really understand why didn't really understand why until earlier today when i watched the documentary but now i you know i understand a little bit more. But that's the great thing about is that you can always go back and understand a little bit more or be confused a little bit more. It offers so much. There's so many layers in this like and like you said you can watch in different ways Each time you come back to. You can pick up something new and unique. I think overall i think this is one of the top horror films of all time and you know. I think it's. It's kind of hard film that people make horror films now off of this. You know so it influenced so many people because it. It's not that it's the scariest movie because it. I don't think that film. But i think it just it has a slow burn all the way through so That's shows you that the worst monsters are humans man that you two are susceptible to becoming this thing. It's it's thin ice. We're all treading on right. That's one of the issues. I had with the movie. I don't like jack is a character straight from the get go when they're in the car ride up which i love. The bird's eye of the car ride pity but in the car where it doesn't danny asks him what is Can't remember what the question was he goes. What's blah blah. Well he says. I'm hungry yes. You should've should've eaten breakfast. He's just said from from. He is totally. he's totally at dick. But he danny also else. What's something and he gives them this answer. Each got this really glib look on his face like he's a deck. Jonathan cannibalism right. Yes yes party right. What's the donner party. And jack explains it to them like he's just a deck And he's addict throughout the movie. He's a misogynist. He's you know. The the whole movie felt very misogynist. Felt like What's her name olive oil. There was just like shelley duvall. Sally was shelley. Divall was just there to serve him food and to take care of all of his wants and needs until he completely completely completely fucking loses inches. We might be in trouble and then you know strong like she is so weak up until that moment but it annoys me and it's probably more if it's a sign of the time it's a sign of the relationship. Maybe it's in the book. I don't know but it's hard for me to watch a woman that week And him such a deck. I is actually in the book. She's very beautiful and much more strong willed. So it's a completely and also wasn't that what that was the issue that stephen king of the movie is well sure Was he's like. There's no character like arc or jack becoming this murderous jackass. He's exactly exactly y- apparently in the book he's a loving father and a good husband. And then slowly. He descends into madness. And that's the movie he's just goes from being a to being more of a dick to being a psycho right like the fact that he's not the book to get like. He warned them in the book to get up to get away. I don't have no one's read at the check checkoint. At the last moment of redemption he warns the son to go away well. There's a lot of warnings throughout the movie to just people warning them about this and kind of giving you that that. This is why he has. Even jack has the dream while he's asleep that he's gonna to kill. Cut them up and kill both of them. So you know there's all those all those little warnings that are set in place and that just starts to think that okay. This is going to happen but wins is going to happen. you know. And that's that that makes makes the story. I think just keep creeping all the time it just keeps building and building so Tony stash. i was just gonna say yeah. Would you like something. That i Movie is a we discussed earlier. Like obviously you know like one of the very first movie steady cam air brown and then beyond that the way that they move the camera like when he's chopping into the bathroom door and instead of just being on a wider medium shower. You see him chopping. The camera follows with the the The axe and its a perfectly. It's perfect like it. Follows the acts and it makes it way scarier. And that's just super cool and not to talk about the sequel which we don't discuss but do it in that and it's awesome that they just do a lotta cool camera things that i love you. I i think there's there's so many and that's the thing that really kinda captivated. My attention to this film early was that it's there's a lot of cinematography moves But they're all made in the right way. They're not you know the situation. When jackson the cooler and the cameras up underneath and know jackson over and it just gives him this presence of like this scary. Like beast of a man. You know things like that along with the shots in the hallway following the the kid going through the hallway on his little. You know like we said his. I dunno tricycle type. Scooter type things wheel. Big will yeah so but those things the effect of the carpet that carpet was made just for this too so it was designed an all that uncomfortableness and the thing that really jumps out to me in this film is the colors. I its use of the colors at the right times. You know the cars. Even the color of the car read in the car that gets crushed on the side of the road that we see that you know up underneath the tanker you know is yellow and so there's all these warning signals are coming up. Hey this is coming up. This is what's happening and then you throughout the film the orange even in the carpet sort of sets you off of caution. You know what's happening and the colors are just. They're vibrant when they need to be and they're toned down when they're not there was even little things i noticed was When jack goes into destroy the two way radio all the books on the counter that were in the cabinet were all laid down sideways. You know little things like that the show you that things are off balance that you don't even think about until you watch it again but you go. Do i feel this way. Well that's why because it was all stacked up perfectly straight. Now they're all laid down. Things are not right you know. And and kubrick is a master at doing z. Might not notice your your subconscious knows right the subliminal asthma and he and he i exact exactly yeah he had actually Had studied with ad agencies and got to them and and talking to them how they were using it because during that time there was a lot of that that was going on. It still goes on. It's put into things where you look at something. It's got a phallic symbol in it or whatever it might be to make you feel certain ways but he really in this film. There's lots of that in this film like all throughout it. You watch things and you're just like okay but you don't. They're small things and there's a soft things. Atta did notice something that i'd never noticed before. And it's in the scene where jag goes into the gold room and there's a the the party is going on and he gets the drink spilled on him so like right before that happens. A woman crosses in front of him and bumps into grady with all the drinks and on the back of her dress on her ass. There's a bloody handprint. And i'd never noticed that before. An backed up and all is that back up again. I should really like that. Might be the dress. It might be a shadow. It might not be anything at all. But i saw plenty handprint on her ass. That's interesting. I've never seen that. But i wouldn't doubt that things like that or not in this. Maybe it was. He might have had it on her underwear so it kind of showed through the dress to or things like that so it might have been a decoration on the dress you know but it just was hanging at the right angle and it was just like like they go. He had a super high iq to to have this ability to do certain things like this and he was a complete brilliant mind. So there's no telling what was going on. I thought by myself. I'm so proud of myself. Okay so there really is a bloody handprint says okay. Great so now. We know that we can go back home. Watch it again. Explain something to you. Commend here and interrupt me. You're breaking my concentration and will then take their understand. And we're gonna make a new rule around in here here me typing. Hear me typing with. Hear me doing an ear when i'm in the ear. That means that i am working. That means don't you think you can handle and anyone else loved the last twenty minutes of just every few seconds fashion to shelley duvall reaction shots where she was just like there was some pretty terrible reaction shots but they were fudd right. She was scared when she route. Goes into the room with all the skeletons and all the cobwebs and she's losing lips are just a trend blend. And you know she was probably like. How many different ways could i bake a scared face while do this one. He likes this one out of scared faces. This is all i had. I had like five in my toolbox. And i used them all. Stanley still wants me to be scared. So fully paid forty two hanging onto the knife to loosen her hand waving around like she. She was She was not my favorite character in this film like at all To see her get strong at points. Yes at points i was like. Oh my gosh. She's so bad as an actress but she's also a good at that part of it too. She's not my favorite actress period. I mean i just don't go back and say oh she did this and that was so been a ton of things but she just jumps right in the snow while thing just knows how to drive. It drives bet stephen. Well actually they made mention earlier had made mention of it earlier. And i think barry nelson and whoever does do you do you guys drive. They both went. Yeah and he goes. It's just like driving a car. Get men cruthers driving the snow cat up to get them. It is not an all like driving combats to sh- shift these and that's not driving car just man snow cat so drives like that. I was a little offended by the ghost. I was offended by the goes to who call scatman the n. Word oh yeah. I was like oh seriously seriously dead man. You got some nerve agent question you gotta realize that that was from the twenty s. So that's the thing. Is you know when jack walks. And he gets the bump he goes from basically the seventies to the twins so i that was a situation of throwing it back to the twenties also to add a little like. You don't like this guy you know in there to guide the beginning. All that says that happened in one thousand nine hundred seventy. He says that grady killed his family in one thousand. Nine hundred seventy. That didn't happen in the twentieth. It's really confusing. What decade this might surprise you. Laura but old white men even in the seventies racist obviously to this area day to this very day now. Here's a question. I have if if jet keeps drinking but it's ghost drinks so he's not really drinking. what drink what's he doing. What is this guy doing. He's really walking around an empty hotel. Experience all these things. So is he getting fake ghost drunk i there. There's lots of questions like that throughout this film. I mean you know you have to sort of say we're taking this as it is and that there's drinks in there somehow they've shown back up I don't know either. Who led him out of the freezer is. There's a little things like that. You know that were like well. Well once again ghost. Yeah who really choked danny right. If it wasn't either one of them was the woman he says it's the woman. So who really did you know. That's the whole thing. Is you know. I think it touches on. You know the supernatural aspect of it as well as the psychological aspect of it you know. I think what kubrick does really. Well that i don't any of us have talked about is sleep deprivation you know. Jack is going through this whole thing. We can't sleep. Remember there was sitting on the bed. I can't he's not sleeping you know. And and of course his son sitting there and they're having a conversation but he's not there he's somewhere else and you know sleep deprivation doesn't take seventy two hours of no sleek you become you start hallucinating. It's i mean it's part of it so those are things that happen. You know once you're starting to not have those sleep patterns that you need you start going into this whole nother world of like. I'm not really sure what's going on. You know is this. Real is not real you know. Obviously something was going wrong because he kept writing the same words on the typing. The same words on the page right. But but here's here's thoughts those are just dos in that and i don't know how you get past that other than you have to take it for what it is and then say these are things that are happening that that's questions. I mean what what y'all sounds to me. Well it's funny. Because in hereditary. I believed everything. And it's much more silly like these people floating in flying their next open and bizarre shit and i'm like oh it's all because of the this payment call. That's fine okay. But god forbid jack. Nicholson drinks ghost alcohol. Than i am all fucked up and i'm like i have so many questions What do you think they're tony. I was just going to say. It's just one of those movies which is just like a lot. It's like any david lynch movie. There's really not going to be any concrete like answer to any anything you it's it's open to interpretation and you just have to draw your own conclusions and that's just the way it's going to be like and that frustrates certain people that will frustrate certain people like i need to be like spoon-fed exactly what's happening and then there's other people that are like i would like to be able to just kind of think about it. And you know a drama collusion. I feel like the shining is just. That's the kind of movie that it is like. You're not there's no real answer your participant away you want to interpret it and exactly but i think it'd be fun to you you'll be kubrick had done an interview and completely told somebody. This is what i was thinking. But why should he. Why should he. That's the whole thing is the i. I don't think as a filmmaker that you should have to explain what you're hearing if you don't understand you can't you can't. You're not understand the the spoon feeding giving you gonna give give you to understand going to give you an example. I was a big fan of the prisoner tv series. Patrick mcgowan They have recently put out a documentary. Where a british reporter british documentary-maker sat down with patrick mcgowan but it was back from the eighty s. He sat down with. Patrick mcgowan and his family just released it now or the rights just became available so that he could use the footage and they discussed the prisoner which has a huge cult following people going like. What does this mean. What does this mean. What does this mean. And it was really fun to hear patrick. When go and address those things sometimes something that we all made a big deal out of. He's just like bicycles. Thought it represented you know life in that the eighteen hundreds be. It's interesting and it'd be fun if somebody goes. I have this interview with kubrick where he's like. No we fucked up. That's why things changed in the shining. That's why does that. Why were they. Well i heard there's talk about sleep deprivation. I didn't sleep for fucking year while making this fucking now what's going on. I thought i was making a faithful adaptation of the buck. This film rates are eight point. Four on b. day so that's impressive for a horror film like it'd be very impressive but i think it's because of you know it it touches on a lot of different things and it's it's you know it wasn't a huge success and i mean i think in in the theaters it made like about forty four million so it did make money but it wasn't a huge success like that but you look at what it's become now and it's become this colt following from it slow tonight isn't it yes. It is be awfully glad you asked me that. Lloyd his i just happened to have to twenty to ten right here in. My wallet is afraid. They were going to be there next april. So here's what you slip me a bottle of bourbon in glass and some ice off. That can't you. Lloyd too busy busy. It'll good man. You set him up and knock them back. Lloyd one the one white man's burden lloyd. My man late man's burden what do you not like about. I know we kind of touched on some. But what do you not like about this film racist ghosts. Yeah all us. Not from shelley duvall man when she thinks she's a girl from blair witch. The hell is that. That's where blair which took it from. I bet it's probably before we count before we go into what we don't like which apparently most people liked it overall. I thought that danny kit was good and kubrick got a really amazing performance out of him. Fucking nightmare what he did. Is he fed him. He fed him sugar. One of the things. I watched it was like on how he got the performance. He did out of him and that was basically you know sitting there going show look left look back over here because here you know and those were the performance you know that he really pulled off. I mean besides red rhyme red raw. She told me it's all superficial. What great director out for him to get that out of him. you know. that's something great and even if you notice the same it's in there with a big party. Scene is going on how everybody was acting in the background. Those were great. You know just watching. They were very realistic and looks like a real party. It looks like a real party and that was impressive to pull that off of that. Many people but w- kubrick. I mean kubrick however people want to say i mean i know a lot of people downplay what he was but he was a genius and honestly could be maybe the best director of all time considering the fact that he did films at all different levels science fiction all the way to horror to historical dramas to you know he's done at all i. I mean and pushed the level for decades and decades. He was so prolific right and not only was he. He was also financially successful. with exception. I think barry lyndon but all of his other films pretty much. I think we're financially successful. And that's that's a feat to do because you know a clockwork orange was one. They didn't even want to put out so sure they didn't wanna put that film out and he had to. He's back. there's a whole story on that and we'll talk about that if we ever do that. And i want to get into it but you should look up the story on clockwork orange. And what happened because that film would probably never have made it. Had kubrick not really went out on the on the limb and said you've got to do this guide apply this and and he basically got people there to the theater and made a sell out and then that created this controversy in the controversy end just spread with that film but he. He was smart on so many levels. And you know. There's just i i can't say enough good things about him because i think he's influence a lot of different people across the board but getting back to the bad of this film. You know the only things that i can think is. I thought there would have been there some continuity issues but may they were done on purpose. You know and that's hard to say whether that was the case but you know from a visual standpoint of watching this film from a visual standpoint of just understanding and the score of the music that just pulls you and your own poll and now you hear those that you know exactly what it is. You know there's no question so you gotta give them credit for being able to do that. And he's one of the few guys that took a lot of sort of orchestra. I guess that's how you said that word music or orchestral. Thank goodness there. It is and that's where we're trying to get for coming from the guy's not drinking from on average is an adult message. Yes yes that's right and shiny water so but that's what he puts all those pieces together and make up so you know any other thoughts that you can say that are bad about this them. It's just that. I wished that jack had a place to to start from a better place as a father. So we're not like do. Yeah i wish more so that. I was more upset when he turned into a monster. Because i really wasn't surprised he's a dick like he's an alcoholic. Oh now he's a grumpy. nana very child-abuser. Yeah and even gets worried. What he's what he's talking to the ghost about the incident he had with danny and psyche even kind of lies a little bit and yet he's making and it was just like oh you alcohol. There's another incident that is only mentioned once and it's like implied that that's when he starts talking to tony. Is this this mysterious incident that they never speak about. It's not where he yanks him up and breaks collarbone because they talk about that but there. There's this other mysterious thing. That's like sometimes implied as child molestation or incest or something and it's not stated is just sort of a feeling that you get that it's like dirty and you don't know why no one said that but maybe it's more subliminal. I didn't get that part of it that that was the case with jack. Now with the you know the the guy in the room with the the dog guy. That was hanging out different. Yeah the job situation. That was josh story but Yeah door guy. Blowjob truck going out. Maybe i wonder if that's what is i m. Mvp credit says trapdoor guy yeah bj. But i didn't get that feeling. But i could see where you're coming from on that side of it. There is some sort of like deeper things that went on and like the looks are two lingering. He the the sitting on his lap like that scene where they're talking about. How ride hired and did you like it here. And why are you asking me these things are you grooming me for something. What is going on here. What is this ooh. That's very creepy. Sounding yeah sorry. What's the deal with tony. More as like tony. Regret more of trying to him crying. Trying to seemed normal like try to be the good dads even though it's impossible for him to seem normal at this point right like i don't think he really gives a shit if at that point if if if he's happy there i think he's just like trying to be a normal bad or appear that way now he's actually return to normal or dry. Yeah yeah let's talk about sammy because you know tiny was shocking to you. Know he had you know two personalities there. I don't remember if in doctor sleep. They addressed who. Tony was either and i just missed. It has another long movie. wasn't it is good especially dry. It was. I did think dr sleep was a good movie. And it was a fucking. Oh maggio's to the original shining. Fucking brilliant henry thomas. Jack nicholson holy shit outta scheckter. Listen but as jack torrance but is very get. But yeah i wanna i want to know more about tony and scattered from you. Know one thing about scab. i guess There was a lot of issues with him. Not knowing not knowing what from what i understand when i was reading a little bit about that he there was a lot of changes in the in the script. So even jack got to a point where and and if you watch some of the behind the scenes kind footage of of the shooting the you're seeing stanley kubrick constantly on the typewriter type you know. He's typing stuff up so he was constantly making changes to the script. You know as they were going along so the script was always changes so it got to a point where jack nicholson would just learn at once. They gave it to him and it was like. We're going to be shooting the next little bit but that really through some of the other actors that are like more know deeper. I guess and scott man had a terrible time with and matter of fact. There's there's even a. I've heard that that was the guinness book of world records for most takes on the scene around the table with With with the boy was one of the longest take or not take but multiple tanks of a shot of anything ever so And there was just all these kinds of thoughts about it as well as kubrick was known for taking a lot of takes so he would take. That was not something unusual. He you know we'd take a hundred takes on something To get the that he was looking for because he was a perfection. And so can you imagine that the business. Yeah god do not do that. Unless unless you're working with david fincher to. He was that way i'll give takes. That's it. wrap it up into the best of me already and if you got you got the us. The first take was a but i'll give you a safety. I mean i. I will say coming from director side of it. I will say most cases. You're going to get it in early. Takes but if you don't then a lotta times it's the last week you know because you're going on just what you've gotta you've gotta stop really the mode. The true motion comes out because the exhausted they're acting and now they're just pissed off the rangers. Get it over with right. And then i've had some directors had some directors. Make me do so many. Takes that the last take. I am fucking know what i'm saying anymore. I didn't know where i was or what i was doing at. It did not serve the character. This key does it. Serve the character and that did not many of those cases but i thought scatman was amazing. I loved him in this movie. And i really wanted to see more. I felt like his character. And i don't know the book but it's like felt bad because it would be like let's go to his little shockers apartment and show. He's concerned and calling the deputy or whatever and stuff. This is like yes marie. It's an inside joke with my friends from college. That tony the scary thing is that your picture froze before you said that. And i just heard that voice i. I'm not gonna lie. I tickled a little bit. There might be so there could be. There might be turtle tracks in my underwear. But here's a mature. Grady albert grady. That's scrapie seen you somewhere before. What is that. i didn't believe off. Now scrapie why. Don't you once the caretaker here. I do believe you are married. Men are st- grady as a wife and two daughters and they now some around. I'm not quite sure mr. You were the caretaker here i recognize. I saw your picture in the newspapers. You chop to ivan daughter up in little bits and you blew your brains. Were that's strange recollection of that too. Grady you were the caretaker here. I'm so to differ with you but you. You always been the cadillac. I should have a. I've always been here. So what do you guys want to talk about about this family. And we've covered a lot. Is there anything that we've left off that you really think we should talk about here. Is good luck was good. I have not seen that really tony. There's haters there's haters of dr sleep. Oh absolutely there go fun because it was a good movie. It was a great all modules to the shining and it made it a bigger a bigger thing as fantastic. Was it also book by stephen king or was this movie yes. It was a book by king. Yeah okay so i. I'm surprised that this didn't come up. And maybe it was my Deficiency as a kind of a host over here but we didn't even talk about the red rum that's kind of the the people quote and talk about one other. what what other one the. here's johnny. Yeah yeah so. Let's dig into that whole sequence of the final of this part of it. What was your thoughts on a you know. We talked about kind of the camera angles and movements. That were going on. Because i think that definitely enhanced it. Where did you believe that was actually happening. Were you sucked in at that point tony. I think it's absolutely terrifying jack. Jack nicholson is terrifying that same. But this is the moment where we've talked about like continuity errors and stuff and whether they are intentional or not. This is the one moment in the movie were out. It was absolutely unintentional. A the amount of like holes in the door changes from charter shot and that is because they only had several they only had so many doors and that was something they couldn't help but being you know someone who works in the business. That's the kind of stuff that i noticed. And then that annoys me like there was two holes last shot and now there's three or this whole bigger than it was then all the other stuff that may be a continuity. Error is probably anticipate as stanley. Kubrick is like an autour but and this scene they should. They should have done better than there's a reason it the reason they heads only so many doors and then jack nicholson which they didn't know had trained as a firefighter and he said his he literally was cutting through that door like it was like paper. He actually knew what was happening. He could hit it and just knew how to cut. You know which is why it looks so real. But i agree. There was like a two shots. And i remember cutting back and i feel like i'm kinda like watching the psycho scene of the shower scene. You know because you're seeing things that just don't quite one hundred percent and i agree with you on that side of it because but that was the reason and they just didn't and they actually had to go to a thicker door because he was going through him so fast like in. That was one of the problems. So well notoriously bathroom doors are pretty shitty in pretty fast and you can even notice them one of the shot. Shelley duvall closes the bathroom door. And it just looks like it's a like like door you know when she's shutting the door and you're like he would just go right through that one take would be the hammer would be on the other side so And then you see the door seems to be a little bit thicker as it goes through so But that was kind of the reason behind that. So fucking kubrick man i swear slot nicholson make skills and did you notice when when they when they put they they drop Danny out the door or out the window the window and slides down. That was actually a set. That whole scene were coming out with a set and that was salt that he slid on so they had all that salt. There was put up with building a ton of it that he slid off of. So that snell is all so yes i had iced sought kosher. Probably you can cook it. Burns does followed by getting stuck in the window. The thing that bothered me. Like i thought shelley duvall is so tiny. She's absolutely as tiny as danny. If not tinier head through that if you get your head through it you can get your body through enormous homered. She's really not olive oil in real life. You don't part judo. That i don't actually really. I don't know that she kind of have any proof that didn't bother me that she couldn't get out the window so with was it. You know. I want some really bothered by anything. I was amazed that danny did the backwards footsteps thing was like where he was backtracking to make it look like he had just stopped when i was like. Yeah when i was a kid his age i was like playing with my own poop. I mean stuff like that wait. He's eight he's playing with the same age saw the shining for the first time back can't saw and patrick still blame poops not chango playing with well. I need something to be the shark. When i'm planning with my gi joe's in the bathtub. Sorry i still. Eddie murphy eddie burger. But now i would not have thought about that as a kid. I would have been standing out there. Go scary guy from easy. Riders tried to kill me but he had he also had people helping in ed. Tony was helping them turning. But we don't know who tony was. We still don't know how we know. Tiny could have been. Pa right which maybe he was the best tops tops. Doctor sleep was. Was there a tony or is that Need to watch that. It's really good. Yeah and i've seen doctor sleep. And i don't remember tony in doctor sleep. I think i slow. You don't actually see him and is the is the black is the black man in dr sleep is supposed to be scotland cruthers same character. Well well obviously. I mean scott other people i will nowadays george. Lucas would have made a digital will. Get me i will say. When he got killed. I was the that was the part. I was just like you didn't have to do that. You could just add. Liked his karaoke so much. Like i didn't have any but we went all that way and he didn't even have a chance to fight. You didn't even get a final battle and it was very graphic that close up of the tax code into scatman. It is very upsetting. Because he's the one person who knows what's going on with With danny and danny the shining. That was something that that was a question. I had was like it when he got in there. Why didn't he immediately use his power to call to danny and i don't know if it works like a telephone walking. Danny what's going on. Asked him how scream like that was right either. Yeah that was a clever. I wish i could just step out of that. Yeah i wish i could just explain things. I didn't want to deal with that way mustard. Heard you urge his scene totally. You totally read my emails. No no was just your tires. At two true-to-life and continuity issue with jack to in the snow was a little bit off too so that was the only thing i didn't like that part i but again the what with jack in the snow that continuity. We're so he basically he's kind of facing. He's leaning up against the the edging of the of the maze and then we see him in the middle of it kind of like away from it. You know and that. That was the only thing. Because i was at that point. I don't want to be taken out of the story. I wanna stay. That's the only thing that bothered me was like. I mean like that. You know what was messed up. The net may seen is the first time i've watched it with subtitles. And when jack nicholson's making all no those words He saying wendy. He starts saying San francisco here. I come at one point. And i went. What the fuck right back. Where i started because all sounds like you and it was fucking me up watching these subtitles. And i'm like he did not just think but i guess he did right back where we started from. He's lost in the maze. But i'd never ever ever would have gotten that out of what came out of his mouth in young frankenstein another film cover and our future episodes somewhere down the right. Johnny frankenstein is actually half that one. I would have to rent it. Be nice cool anything else. You guys want to close up with on this and geezer. See dr sleep. That's the next thing we recommend checking it. S highly recommend it. I think it's still directors the directors version. I think it's better director's cut has really. I think that's also on. Hbo max sponsor by the is not hbo match except that if the offer we would accept that were so. Let's talk about our next film that we're doing. I think If i'm not mistaken is laura's pick my turn turn actual. We don't have to vote on this. She gets to choose anything so. Hold your seats everyone to accomplish house to the second story now putting out. I won't do that to you go. I am tempted to do that. Final girls that is a twenty seventeen movie. I think and it's fun. It is an omar jr to the slasher. Nice are right. Well that'll be fun. So final girls next on the plate and do a lot of hard. Nobody likes drama anymore. We gotta mix it up a little. Which is could so. It's good to add history month. We could've done like. I don't know malcolm x. or something. Yeah you could have picked that one patrick on your list one. My life pick was a month ago. Saber is history month. I took the shining. Yeah so All right so what else. What other films have you guys been watching. Anything else. malcolm x. mccormack Just watch the. I get really got. I watched called. Let him go. Did i talk about that already. Know you're just starting to talk about it right now. So kevin kevin costner and Mrs kent dan flat lane handling this. Can't i didn't know diane ladd. Well no the funny thing is. They played montag. Can't in the zack. Snyder superman. This and i didn't realize they played husband and wife again and let it go until our podcast frame chris. Baker pointed down. Shut the fuck up. Chris and No but i didn't realize until he said it as i. Oh yeah but it's got booboo stewart. My favorite indigenous actor in it also. It's really it's kinda fucked up. It's a fucked up movie. it's at. I don't know how to describe it. It's a drama vengeance film type of on. Check it out when it becomes widely available awesome whereas it now is it rental. You could rent it. Yeah i bought it for a gift card. Because i do. I went in. And i want to support these spoiler movies like Like wonder woman nineteen eighty-four. I did not want to give any money. And i didn't watch on. Hbo max i still. I still feel ripped off. And oh no but microphone. Fell off the pad but I want. I've tried to support the indie films and the smaller movies dunkin a lot of play. At least give them something financial. Do you mean like psycho gorman exactly watched and it was fun. It's cute it's. I hated the little girl it is designed to be hated the will mission accomplished psycho gorman to gore her up he had great lines seco- gorman himself wonderful his wonderful end monari For those people who follow the charlotte film society minorities available in their screening room. This starting friday. Tell us about that. What does that win. Thomas was on and he was talking about minorities the best film he seen in ages the glenn from dissolving show. The walking dead is in it. It looks like it's basically a true story at american story of immigrant family. Making it in america. Were i want to tell you. I want you to look at your watch it. Yeah she's not moving. I watched probably the most recent movie i've seen was A little things on. Hbo on hbo max. His yeah alec in washington did you've seen it have given so i i liked it. I enjoyed it. Gave me through off. Like the i like re quarters of gave me like zodiac vibe and zodiacs really and then it doesn't dentures finest spoiler. I'm going to actually give a spoiler. But i'm gonna say spoiler alert just in case anyone hasn't watched it. The last quarter of the movie wasn't very good for me. I didn't finish didn't finish well. I agree i thought it was heading for like real built big build up and and sort of just sort of we squeaked out. Yeah i think it was good movie. But i thought it was good performances performance. Right in something. Different from romney that he was At the show. Did i thought he was actually really good. I mean i love bohemian. Rhapsody to and i finally saw the museum site to see some of his works so fun. Kid get freaked. I watched what you've been watching. I haven't watched any movies in while these tv. Or but nah. I mean i've just been kind of like doing other things. We went through and we watched the wire recently. I hear that's a really good show so good. Good like Some seasons higher on than others. And but i think the acting is great in that as well a good performance all around got my guy from From jason and right from out with lash this it at those two shows and one's a little bit more than the other. Yeah it's oz right be. I've never seen either of them. So i haven't seen prison. He really i watched one. That i think is gonna like and it's on netflix. Right now is called the babysitter. And it's kind of comedy are. Yeah it's it's it's it's fun at liked it. I thought it was really well done. And and you know just go in for a fun evening to watch. It's very entertaining and as a couple of twist to it. That's kind of nice and simple. And then i it's called the babysitter and it's kind of like a ritual satanic kind of a theme to okay. Thank you because i was like that. Sounds like it should be a horror movie. It is it is and it's it's got a nice little twist in there that you just don't say an i don't wanna give away too much because it just came out on netflix. And but is there a sequel to it. This is gonna sound weird but it's just came out. It's been the watched the baby several years or such another babysitter. That's like there's a babysitter from the nineties. Yeah yeah no. I saw one from the baby killer queen. That's the one i saw. I saw this awesome to it. It appears so fi on. You can't sit at the same people in. It does really cool. Because i haven't seen that. Tell us the name again. The babysitter killer queen. So the funny thing is. I watched that not knowing it was a sequel then during the movie that kept referring to movie before that referring to what happened before and i went now or are they just doing that. Or is this really a sequel. And now i know it's really a sequel. Cute stupid fun silly stuff. I want to see freaky free. I wanna see that too. Yeah i watch on my list. I watched another one. I watched youth. Which is a polyester anti movie Which highly recommend it's fun it's different it's too old guys Michael cain in it. And just the there. Yeah and it's just it's probably familiar sorrento. He did the pope and American what's the name of the movie it's called youth you and it's too. It's too guys basically ended up at this kind of like I won't say it's a home. It's like a vacation retreat area. And it just paul sorrento. Has this real italian style cinematography and and flare to his things that just kind of her different and very he has his bare unique style. And if you like his work you'll thoroughly thoroughly enjoy it. And it's one of those that i've gone back to in a and watch the second time i've watched it and i've just been like house. Just he definitely very unique storytelling techniques to anything else you've got lately that jumps to. I've been stephen king kicking it. So i just watched the stanford nine hundred ninety four. The tv movie with rob lowe I really enjoyed that. One of the first thing to gary sinise in a movie miniseries. It's a mini series. It was maybe four nights hour and a half episodes without the commercials. And it's fine. And i haven't seen the new one mic. I hear very mixed things on the halfway through it. And then i i stopped and i don't know that i'm gonna go back now. I must see this especially if it's horrible. I also watching these super religious overtones that came through the middle of it. And i was like this is not right i well i mean that's the that's the ninety four movie with mother. Mother abigail looking. She thinks the god talks to her and is pretty much. The civically like catholic. He stuff. I don't know i just just bogged me down and i didn't like whenever i want to check it out for the guys playing nick andros in it i can't remember the actor's name kazeem the guy that is okay. He's great he's really really good. Yeah okay that's rob lowe played. I watch needful things other stephen king movie. Lots of fun. Times metro out at neil ed. O'neill ed o'neill really good harris. Thank you album. D did not i get people confused all the time. I can't tell. I wanna say that I watched inbetween episodes of letterkenny and the new detectives. Which is kind of like the each spectrum I watched the strange case of dr. Jekyll and mr hyde with talents will ever rate highly. Recommend it's free onto be if anyone has two hours that they wanna just fill with some magic. Jack pal is great. Nice nice right well. this has been a fun. Podcast and we wanna thank Stash for being here helping us out like that man. That's sweet stashes got over there. I know it and we want to thank our the listeners. To so Oh yeah it's our pleasure to have any time and thank all the listeners for listening and for going out and keeping download knows That each one of our new podcast that come out and go check out some of our older ones too. Because we've got quite a few films that we can't even remember the names half them obviously. Sorry and of course since jerry gilliam. If you're listening i'm sorry. Yeah hopefully is somewhere. Yeah so anyway. Well thank you everybody for being here and once again we'll We'll be back with the next one. Of course that is going to be lovely. Laura's pick final girl girls here the final ones. Yeah so that we all get something new to watch. Because i haven't seen that one syrup kind of interested actually watch and don't remember it. Great all right excellent. All right well enjoy your lovely weekend and days and coming up and Thanks again and make sure you tell all your friends about us. And what else. Review subscribe download ninety each wash. Your hands asked us right retu- masks. I wear away from people. Stay away from patrick unless you want to hang out with grumpy old man and the other now. It's been a fun time thanks again. We love you back. 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Episode 31, A Conversation on Classic Movies

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Episode 31, A Conversation on Classic Movies

"Mama when our the san me this say sanity get off mar grass coming up on this episode of the old days. Podcast coming up on the next episode of the old man's podcast. I'm staying with the theme of classics. This classic conversation is going to be on the topic of movies talk about eight decades of classic movies. All john ras all interesting. Look we all have different tastes. You and i and everybody else appreciate different kinds of movies all like the same thing establish just because we have different tastes doesn't mean we should maybe not try something a little bit different so must throw out a list of hall of fame classic films that in my opinion everyone should see. And maybe you'll find hidden jim in here that you never knew you'll find a hidden jim that you never really knew about never thought about seeing and you'll check it out. It'd be happy that you did. Maybe that's why everybody should listen to the old man's podcast acid on All right here we go talk classic movies on this episode of the old man's podcast unlocked going on here. So i'm not gonna mickey mouse around and get just get to the point so that don't take up all your time also gonna try to make this one's fun for you. So here's what i'm thinking. I've selected my movies going back. The oldest one is nineteen thirty. Three i know. I got some movie fans out there. Some of you probably aren't. You're probably just curious about what i got going on here. Like a train record something in the city where this is gonna take. You gonna play a game. So i'm gonna give you a quote or a fun fact or piece of trivia or star of a particular movie and see if you can guess what movie it is as i said i'm going back to nineteen thirty. Three's the oldest one is better than eight decades of movies that are considered classics. Not just by me. Although i'm all i care about right now so it's my opinion. It matters my show but at any rate This research got some expert opinions on what constitutes classic movie and then with that. So let's see how you score on your knowledge of classic movies can get a lot of these right. You are going to be classified a classic movie expert. That's how cool is that. It's like going to school. I don't need books aereo. i one up. I hate snakes and the lead character is named after the family dog. The dog's name indiana character indiana jones and mandate he hates snakes so lost arcus. I one up. My category by the way is action adventure. Nineteen eighty-one film raiders. Lost ark might be as good of action movies. You could ever expect to see. He doesn't want to be a hero but He can't be it's also kind of funny. Liked the look on his face. When we're in a guy came with the sword is pull out his gun and shot him. I guess i shouldn't say that it's funny. Somebody lost her life but was a real person who is just two sewri. I second one up. You are not going to get this. Won miss town right now. This is an oddity that i doubt any of you have seen but if you light movies you should see this one and I dunno offers a reboot but it was the idea behind a movie that i really enjoyed as a kid. Yul brunner's magnificent. Seven in a magnificent seven was redone recently. Like in the last couple of years and denzel washington was the star. Neither denzel does debbie goodness movies exception to magnificent seven. But you know. The japanese film us. Right gordon and the japanese dome. The magnificent seven is based on poor. Farming community pulled. Its resources and hires seven. Samurai to protect them from a brutal gang of bandits to keep stealing the harvest every year. It's a safe stories magnificent seven the original film nineteen fifty. Four is the seven samurai. Yes it's black and white it. Don't let that scalia. You like movies data flavor for history. Go at the seven. Samurai look this duck hawk net flicks prime. You find it. It's findable this. What is done by john. Ford it has been critically acclaimed as a cinematic classic so western. A western not experts on the subject. The mood is considered as classic. John wayne plays a character named heath and his character is a pathological racist and yet the enduring template for really what became today's modern anti hero. Ethan edwards is searching for his niece. Got kidnapped by a band of comanche. So that's the nineteen fifty six film. The searchers what you hoped would become a rescue mission actually starts off as an assassination trip. He wants to find her in killer because she's lived with the comanche. Too long ever come back and be normal human being. I guess but they in as little twist you haven't ever seen the searchers in need to see the searchers another nine thousand nine hundred eighties action adventure. You're gonna get this one right away. Yippee mother. I don't have to finish it because you know how it finishes. Because you know the movies diehard this might just be the perfect action movie. It's certainly hard to think of one better or at least one hasn't been as imitated as much. I mean there's been die hard on a boat under siege. Was that movie. Remember the von dame movie sudden death diehard in a hockey arena. And i can remember nineteen ninety s film diehard in a private school called masterminds. There's lots of diehard imitations. Bruce willis made being an action hero. Something a regular like did it wasn't just some big muscle next up. Frankly scarlet. i don't give a damn you know that's gone with the wind. Nineteen thirty nine with talk about that year. Organised second gone with the wind. Became the highest. Earning film made up to that point now. Of course the film industry wasn't even half a century old. So big deal right well. If you adjust for inflation it is still too day. The highest grossing film in history. Talk about popularity right. I i said one thousand nine hundred eighty nine a big year. Lots of things came out in nineteen thirty nine. I'm not gonna talk about john wayne coming out with stagecoach whoops. I just did because at deserves mention. That's why but the other big phone one thousand nine hundred eighty nine had you following the yellow brick road because you're off to see the wizard. All three of those mega films came out in one thousand nine hundred thirty nine. What's interesting about the wizard of oz. Is that the real world with dorothy lives in kansas shot and black and white film and in a soon as she gets to is where the yellow brick road is it. All went to what was relatively new color. And i think that's really interesting. I was smart smart production. Work way to go guys. I that's a fraction adventure. I love action. Movies in terms of significant classic action movies that had enough that on the john mara or affect on the industry of movies themselves. That's it now you may. You may think there's more that's great issue comedy. I love comedies. That can kill all day. Long with comedy just whittle down to the ones that i thought had made a significant impact on the industry of film and the first one i believe. Did it's a musical. And what's this guy doing. The rain yeah. He's singing in the rain. That was nineteen fifty two. Now i wasn't gonna do musicals. But i think this one deserves some credit. I feel like and as i did the research and looked at the data that was available in seems like this was the first really super popular straight up musical. The sides white christmas. So i'm believe those two movies have had time in the fifties shown producers and moviemakers. You can do a musical for the big screen and it can be successful so singing in conic right. What's the first thing you do if it's raining and you're stuck out moran you start singing or lease it gets in your head. It does me right. That's a classic movie with a classic scene a classic line. Even if you've never seen a movie you still know the meaning of singing in the rain now. You probably didn't see this one. If you're over the age of sixty might and i did. This is a stanley kubrick. Genius comedy star. Manson darkest comedy peter. Sellars is in it. He's on hand by all means and he plays three separate parts. Anybody know you got a guy sitting on a bomb. Agate away right there dr strangelove or another title. What by was how. I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb the height of the cold war one thousand nine hundred sixty four. That movie made an impact on society. It was politically leaning and it. Just it just was timely. Dr strangelove check that movie out in one thousand nine hundred eighty one of the most quotable movies ever that i've seen came out. I'll give you one of these quotes now but you know looks like i picked the wrong week to quit. Amphetamines dana seventies. Disaster movies were huge poseidon adventure airport so these guys did a spoof on disasters movies. One airport is airplane. Surely this is a classic comedy. And you don't call me surely see what i did there. Don't call me shirley okay anyway next one up and this is the oldest one is when i told you buy from nineteen thirty three in its marx brothers. It's duck soup. I know you haven't seen it. But i suggest you get on the internet search fort and find it and watch it. It's a political satire. This is right in the heart of the brush and nineteen thirty three. The movies only sixty eight minutes long. But it's a masterpiece and If you like comedies and you've never seen a marked robert shirts slapstick and napper witty. But it's funny and slapstick needs and make a comeback because marx brothers three stooges. Somebody needs to redo all that slapstick stuff. All right this one was my for. My favorite movies is a kid was nine years old. When it came out i saw. I was just mesmerized by it. You probably were too dick van. Dyke plays a crackpot inventor. Caracas aunts compressor. Pots is a widowed father. He has to precocious kits at the movie yet. Chitty chitty bang bang. Chitty chitty bang bang. Yeah it's a car. I was singing the song. It's a car and can y he invents this car. Does everything flies. It's about it's a car can do everything for a small kid. It was magical for years prior to that was another disney film with dick mandak again and He's a chimney sweep. You got that right. Mary poppins has another musical. And in think is significant in terms of how it affected the john mara as singing in the rain. But i do think it's a significant. It did get a sequel. Recently you may have saw that in the last couple years. I tell you almost like that. One better but the mary poppins in the sequel little more. Believable is kind of strict or stern. As you'd expect an english nanny to be and get this dick van dyke in the second one to gets up on a desk and dances. It's amazing if you haven't seen it. You should see it okay. Exit for my comedies. I love comedies. Input all bunch in there. I'm looking for classic. Wants significant films that change the industry even though anchor man's great classic. It didn't change the industry. Many of the comedies that i love we all love. Just it'll get to be called classics because they really didn't change much about the industry but they're great can watch a comedy everyday. Okay here's a favorite category my for the big screen science fiction. I've always enjoyed science fiction as a kid. I read science fiction. There wasn't as much to see it. The movies science fiction as there has been in recent years and science. Fiction is a great john run. Let's wonderful would gun right on a big screen star with the best one in a galaxy far far away. That's the longest running franchise science fiction for sure. Maybe just the longest running franchise in movie history. It's an industry unto itself and it's still purnell on marvelously. I love watching the mandalorian which is on disney. I one holds up with the rest of them. Even though it was made in nineteen seventy seven star wars. Not long after that. So the i guess. The john rose science fiction taken off or the really good when it came out in nineteen seventy nine and one thing that it did is us action early wentz. Not just heroes heroines. This action heroine sigourney. Weaver was cough. She was bad ass and there were super scary. Double jaw creatures. Is she killed with impunity. So what was the movie alien. Great special effects in an era was really special. Effects started my name is how you know that movie well. It was predicted future. It was made in nineteen sixty eight and it was telling us what might take place in two thousand and one air off and nineteen years ago. Didn't happen two thousand one. A space odyssey was way ahead of his time. This is stanley kubrick. It's a story of technological progress disaster. And i'll tell you what they use cynical for sure about the future but it felt prosthetic then and it feels just as prophetic now. Fifty years later especially the ai park. Because that's what. Hal is housing ai. Turn on a human overlords and you guessed this one. You finally did it. You maniacs you blew all to how. I didn't realize that rod sterling actually wrote the script for plant the apes and it has a bit of rod sterling feel to it powdered. I know that we're following. An astronaut played by charlton. Heston its twisty. So that's kind of where that twilight zone rod sterling plot comes from and there's been a lot of of Planet of the apes movies made since then but of them are measured. Instead i one which was in my opinion the best one now after they did that i won the planet. He h in nineteen sixty eight hundred four sequels all the way to battle of the planet. They didn't pretty quick. That was nineteen. Seventy three when the core the fifth version was done tim. Burton got to do a remake. So right around the turn of the century. Two thousand one. There was a remake of the original plan. Rape with tim burton. Who was okay. But they re rebooted a series of ten years ago the first one came out in two thousand eleven and they did another one. Twenty fourteen twenty seventeen so rise of the planet apes dawn of the planet in war. The you might remember in previous podcast. When cinematic critic ryan dat line and i were discussing this with the lighter xi mu one more that you just hasn't been closure on the planet while it's been three years and i don't think it's common fishing. I'm gonna go to another category for science fiction. I'm not gonna thrillers in this. My biggest category 'cause these movies grabbed my attention. The first one is one of my absolute favorites one day and that day may never come. I will need you to do a favor for me. Every mob movie from this nineteen seventy-two classic the godfather every movie whether it's goodfellas casino tv series like the sopranos. They all their lead agency. If you will to the legacy left behind by the corleone family in the godfather and this one was one of them. He pictured. Joe pesci she do i make you laugh my clown or something that was in one thousand nine hundred ninety goodfellas a loved it sells it was the whole cast. Great really makes me wonder. What's my fascination with the mob. Lie style it's tragic. Those guys all everything ends up back either go to jail or end up dead almost always dead. I guess that's train wreck. I can't stop looking at it right next. Stop one thousand nine hundred sixty movie itself. In my opinion birth of the psychological thriller. it's an alfred hitchcock film of course and i never gotten any shower without remembering scene of the shower in the movie. Psycho from nineteen sixty. A fun fact cycle i learned is the first film that ever had a toilet being flushed in it. The sound of being flushed incite saiga. She actually got to see it. That it never happened can interesting okay. Here's a nineteen seventy five thriller one of the throw in relish the ball for going to need a bigger boat one of the most expensive ever made jaws and is probably limited amount of time. I've been willing to spend any ocean. Ever since one thousand nine hundred seventy five so forty. Five years ago my swimming in the ocean times being cut down significant. None of you're gonna get this one. You're only few of you've actually seen it. Let's see if you can get the in quotes from you. Recognize him. But i'll set you up with the Seen if you've missed this if you have missed dome go get it right out or find it your search out where you can watch it because two of my favorite actors in this robert deniro. Who you're going to hear more films robert deniro than any other actor out on my list and al pacino there together on this movie from nineteen ninety. Five is the first time they are ever on screen at the same time. Technically they warrant. I'll tell you about that. The second name of the movie is heat. That's a masterpiece. As i said those two great actors one playing stoic master criminal and the others and obsessed cop wants to bring the criminal down now. My allegiance probably would too if he watched it changes as the plot is unveiled. You wanna root for the cod but you also feel like criminals. Got reasons why he's doing it. It turned in a sometimes. A cop makes himself look like the bad guy. So i think this one you like cops and robbers movies. This is the last word on that one for sure and it has a magic. To a kind of crime thriller even today tries to recapture so fun. Fact on this the narrow pacino weren't ever actually on the set at the same time there's one scene where they're in a diner talking to each other in a booth across from each other. The scenes were shot separately. Apparently they did have an inner schedule that they could be together the same time. So shot the scene looking at the narrow shot the scene looking pacino probably use doubles back in our heads to look like he was talking to somebody and splice it all together and edited out and it looks like they're having a conversation in a dire. They weren't anywhere near each other. Very very custodian. Next one up. I see dead. People nineteen ninety nine film. The sixth sets sick sess a word of mouth head long before it ever hit the big screen and the reason is that twisty ending. We all came the love. I love twisty anyway. This is the twisty ending to beat all twist. It's got to be one of the most unforgettable endings of movie history and that was a part of the huge marketing campaign. Really spend a lot of money on it. It was just word of mouth. People had to see what the twisty ending was. And i did the twist. There's another movie has got it twisted roy. Like can't give you this quote without giving away from madurai fill in the blank. What happens in fill in the blank stays in fill in the blank now by vegas clowns. It's fight club that's another twisty ending. That's a real twisty inning. It was great. It is a comedy but it's up blacker than black comedy. I stuck it here and thrillers. Because it's pretty thrilling. Feel like Dark comedy and a lotta punching. You gotta see by club night a couple of thrillers that i wanted to pick out because they have military theme and i really do enjoy watching films with a military theme in and they're still making those today like recently nine thousand nine hundred seventeen came out great movie. Maybe a classic. But it hasn't gone. More than twenty years yet deadlines i one up because in one thousand nine hundred sixty three and listen to the actors earlier. This should give it away to him. Steve mcqueen the coolest man ever charles prompts. James garner richard attenborough. Now's before he was in jurassic park. Dinosaurs lose that guy. James coburn and it's based on a true story from war to the name of the movie. The great escape greek one now that came out and sixty three year before that another movie was made with a military theme. This one was kind of like if you liked Saving private ryan with the d day aspect of the whole thing. That's what this movie is about. It's it's about the experience if you owe the who's in i'll give you the names in annual. Probably get the help while the duke. The great one. John wayne robert mitchum. Richard burton sean connery long. Before he's ever double and henry fonda red buttons peter lawford eddie albert. Those names this is. The only movies comes close. They haven't all the men there with this movie. Accuracy was gold and several of the cast members and actually seen action as servicemen during world war two. They're replicating at least as best. They could events that surrounded d day and as german. General erwin rommel said going to be the longest day. We have to stop them at the beach d day which he knew it was coming was going to be the longest day. That's the name of the movie. So the film employed german and allied military consultants people who had really been there. German officers british officers canadian officers american offer so course and accuracy was what they were striving to get. So if you're interested in military history all and you never seen a long day you really need to not black and white that to me gives it the feel of historic nece but they did do a colorized version later on kaji. Half the see color and you can do that all right. Let's go to drama. The old man's podcast is produced on anchor. And if you haven't heard about anchor let me tell you a little bit about it. It is absolutely the easiest way to make a podcast. And it's free anchor has creation tools. That allow you to record. And edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor. We'll distribute your podcast for you. So it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts. And many more podcasts delivery apps you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in just one place. It's easy it's free. It's what you can use to become a podcast. Not dramatic right. I think the first one that was i need to mention head. Groundbreaking filming techniques so it uses new technique called deep focus catastrophe which allowed the camera to focus on a person scenery around wasn't going to be necessarily blurry like regular cam techniques anyway citizen kane from nineteen forty one is the movie and it's recognized by all critics as being a classic and ushered in some new filming techniques. That are still in place today. I'll bet you none of you. What a hit. This one is a great film but because it is a great film but you wouldn't have thought about it was One thousand nine hundred nine and it was spike lee. The movie has lost. None of its relevance in fact if anything it's gain some what movie was it do the right thing. The first major film. I recall making a social statement that actually affected our society this film by spike lee. Do the right thing and nineteen eighty nine. I think had an effect on how we looked at the world around us in the world that we were making. And that's probably the most you can ask a film that it can make an impact on people's lives. The right thing. Did that quote hamburgers. The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast not winfield. There wasn't a whole lot of quotes. I get used from him. That didn't have bad words. They want to submit into that. So this is the one went with hamburgers. The cornerstone at any nutritious breakfast from pulp fiction nine hundred ninety four. It's violent but it's like train wreck you can't take your eyes off of it in this one i'll tell you it was nineteen sixty two film and it was a huge movie. Cinematic lee speaking set was enormous. It was set with. Arabian landscapes was groundbreaking at the time. Not just an outside film. People done films off the set in long on location before but this was enormous because who was north africa and of course the movie is lawrence of arabia. Here's a movie. That takes us back to the thirties. And it had two great actors in it. Fade done away in warren beatty. It was game changing. The action was the way the film was made. It was fun. It was morally all over the place. The characters that were being played by faye dunaway warren. Beatty were definitely bad people. It's bonnie and clyde right. Bonnie and clyde nineteen sixty seven film but the movie was able to kind of replicate. What was really going on at the time. Almost make you a fan of them at a time or at least feel sorry for him. Love your unafraid of blood and bullets. It's a pretty gory film. If you've never seen the original bonnie clyde from nineteen sixty seven and recommend you do not a super weird film that came out in nineteen seventy nine. it's Francis ford coppola vietnam war classic and martin sheen young martin. She heads up river to kill a renegade. Colonel played by marlon brando. At movie is of course apocalypse. Now lie weird stuff. Going on on surfin thrilling helicopter raid were smelling napalm in the morning. That was supposed to be good. Somebody gets attacked by a tiger. An playboy monies. And it's kind of a crazy movie but theft kinda. What vietnam was. I think that's what they're trying to portray once martin sheen steps off the boat. Different world is crazy that scene with the fireworks and all that i mean vietnam just it looks like a mass in in a was movie. Did a good job or train at are you talking to me seem by else here. You must be talking late. are you talking to me. Recognize at one. Nineteen seventy six taxi driver. Yeah against another robert deniro you. We're gonna have more deniro movies in here. Anything else especially thriller because he's done some classics. Okay nineteen fifty nine. This movie is sixty one almost sixty two years ago but i know that because it was the year i was born a smoky pool hall. Paul newman is a pool. Is name is fast. Daddy felsen. he's trying to hustles way into the billiard. Major leagues gets in over his head in a high stakes rivalry with the legend and cool. Then a soda. Fats played by jackie gleason to get it yet. It's called the hustler. It's a good one guys really if you have never seen hustle and then right after that watch the follow up. Because a sequel like jairo twenty. Five years later comes out mighty longer. That was one thousand nine hundred six. Look that up so sixty thousand six years later. A sequel comes out with a hot new actor by the name of tom cruise. So now paul newman's character fast eddie. Fast eddie felson. He gets back into the game of billiards when he takes on this young hotshot tom cruise and he becomes his mentor. That movie the color of money dope. You have seen the color of money. You should go back and watch. The sort of movie started the whole thing. If you haven't seen either one of them go get him. I this one is great. Guy us us all time playing video games. My kids know dumb bastard ever wanna war by dying for his country he wanted by making the other poor dumb bastards die for his. Who said that. George patton nineteen. Seventy movie was fantastic george. He's got played a great patent. I didn't realize this. But filmmaker francis ford coppola wrote the story directing was car production. He wrote the story got his start. If you're a big fan of coppola that just makes it. Even that more tastier to catch this film. I think that opening scene in patent where he's addressing his troops and stand in front of this gigantic flag it's iconic and it might just be the best movie opening ever. You haven't seen patent check it out now this one. This is an interesting remember seeing lives in high school. It was two years after. Richard nixon's nineteen seventy four resignation. And it's kinda docudrama about the watergate break in and how it all came to be so. It was kind of gutsy to do that so soon. After the actual event the name of the movie all the president's men came out in nineteen seventy six. it was great it was A masterpiece really dialogue is riveting if you like political thrillers and this one's probably been the blueprint for everyone cents. You need to go back and hit all the president's men sometimes filmmakers Us technique. that's really simple. Just fell in make their movie in black and white like young frankenstein was done in black and white so it looked like it was an older film that was done with this one. I'll give you the quote safe you can name. The movie. could've been a contender. The movie raging bull and again robert. Deniro it's kind of a kind of it is a true story about the boxer world champion. Jake lamotta jake. Lamotta was quite a character. Deniro plays them. I guess is t as much as any of us can tell. It's a mashup of grit and beauty. What the gloves on. Lamade is in his element. But you take them off. And he's a sociopath consumed by jealousy and his buddy jo passions in this one with him. So if you like. Robert deniro. Joe patchy together. Who doesn't and you haven't seen a raging bull. You need to so about sixty years ago. i guess. Halfway through the last century gumshoe flat foot detective shows were real popular the most popular one feature a detective by the name of sam spade in this movie. Sam spade is looking or something very important. This is from nineteen forty one and it stars humphrey bogart. You know which movie it is. The maltese falcon. It was a real trailblazer especially for the era. It became a template for all the film new wall flex would follow. Bogart plays a jaded but a noble gumshoe. That was the word of time for private detective. He added as a female and the female towel there and the couple shifty villains. And you've got a plot that still catches you today. Kind of grabs you by the nose. Drags around all over the place. You don't know where to go from one moment to the next but it's intriguing and it keeps you near want humphrey bogart. I'm gonna do one more and no you're gonna notice one play it again. Sam casa blanca nineteen forty two. Now i have to. Hopefully some of you know this. But i have to be honest. Played against him. Although people think that is the quote it really wasn't the actual thing is said in. The movie is play it. Sam play asked. Time goes by the comedians or whoever this movie such a classic that that line became played again sam. Everybody knows what we're talking about. But it's not the right quote it was filmed during world war two. It was set in north africa during world war two and when the allies invaded north africa in nineteen forty two. That's the year thing. Came out like perfect perfect timing. So bogart plays ex american. He kind of moved away for america. Open up a business there in morocco and north africa. It opens up a bar. It's called the cafe americana so anytime year out and about you see a pub or restaurant or any place named cafe americana this kind of stealing app from the movie casablanca which is where his character rick. Well it's rick's cafe. America so rick who played by humphrey bogart not a great quote in that movie of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world she walks into mine. He had the whole. Thing's got a love story to have begun to see it if you haven't seen it at recommend you do when it comes to watching movies whores at my go-to i'm like a comedy or an action sci fi something like that man has been some great war movie so i don't talk about him. Missing out now must start. With the classic of classics i love watching the saami shows now. I've seen every episode of the walking dead. I've seen the fear now at the world. They wanted things to world beyond or something. See all three series area. I'm just intrigued by zombies. You've probably aren't but you probably do know the original zombie movie to get all that started. Nineteen sixty eight night. A living dead guesses black white and it still scary our. I didn't wanna watch this one. Originally but i did and It was scary. It was best known for being a low budget sensation. Now ultimately two hundred and fifty million in the global box office. That's ten times more than it costs to make. Those really said exactly how much cost they've gone to sixty five thousand can't believe that but they were dead and everything. It'd probably came closer to two hundred thousand. This movie premiered in the sundance film festival. Right at midnight on purpose. The marketing campaign for this film definitely deserves classic status so they listed the actors in this film as either missing or deceased and this movie was well known before you could ever see it. People at the time were asking trying to figure out where it has. His work laseyette working. I see it in the movie. The blair witch project. It was shot like the opening salvo in selfie generation. So is shot like a bunch of kids. Were out in the woods. Filming your life and kind of volun- story and doing a class project for college class. Something like that and they tried to make it look real so when they said the actors were missing or deceased. they're awaken not to. They had died in the woods. From the blair witch. That was an awesome hawk and the movies worth watching to get all scared. But just keep telling yourself it's not real because it looks real now this one's a real classic but it's it's so corny leather face. You know who led her faces. The title of this movie is a killer piece of marketing. The texas chainsaw massacre just title tells you everything eating though it is a classic film shot in one thousand nine hundred seventy four came out in nineteen seventy four and it's a classic or film worth seeing it. Just keep telling yourself it's not real stupid golf. Think this is one of the scariest movies. Our saw nineteen eighty ready for the. Here's johnny you know the movie again. Another stanley kubrick twain. Deniro being the best actor. I think the mall the film. I've watched kubrick all the films that i've watched this guy's god and he steady cams remember the kid riding the they will for the steady cam. And you feel like you're on the big wheel with them and all the crazy stuff going on in a hotel had a shining is shining. Was one of the scariest films. Our saw that big. We'll seen. I can't even look at it. They will now start sweating. I got one. I won't put out for you for hannah. Did one. Because i think there's only one that really is classified as a classic to infinity and beyond and because i don't tell you what movie that is or who said. It just proved that. I was right as that. Toy story is a classic film toy story. If you remember was the one that got pixar. Rolling are wasn't a thing until toy story came out and we all saw that lamp the kind of jumps around as introduced pixar. It became a term that we all recognize. We knew what that meant. I think that it was and probably still is a high water. Mark for computer generated animation. Toy story reinvented really what a family kids loved it adults loved it somehow magically transcends between generations appeals to everyone and sets and i think this was the groundbreaking one and why it gets classic film designation because of that you recognize the features of the story the jealousy the power dynamics relationships between the people and makes you as an adult. Remember your childhood. I think a little bit is a great film now. Computer graphics have come a long way. Since if you've seen the new redone. Lion king i'm telling you they look real. It looks like real lions standing there talking. But i'm gonna go back to toy story being one got all this started getting better and better all time all right. I got one last film. I'm just gonna leave it with this. I have a guilty pleasure. If i'm flipping through and i see it saw. I'm going to watch this movie. I can pick it up wherever it's very beginning a very end anywhere in the middle and just be pleased that i'm watching it. It's just enjoyable. Are you ready. it's roadhouse. there's so many good coats. And roadhouse clear it's just It's guilty pleasure. That's all i can say i'm gonna watch it. You pilot thinking stupid. You got your guilty players right. what are they. I'd be interested to hear what you think. Great classic movies were in your lifetime asked to go longer twenty years but hit me with an email at the old man's email and yahoo dot com. One word there's no apostrophe before the s the old man's email at yahoo dot com. Let me know what you think are classic domes needed. I left out near that clock. Were pretty stupid. That i said they might all. But i'm interesting your thoughts. I'd love to do listeners episode listener stories up. So i talk about things that you guys like so say an email. What do you think is a classic movie. Well folks that'll be another episode. Old man's podcast is as they say. I like this one was like they were topic. Movies look at classic. Movies is one of the old man's classic conversations now. I was just my opinion. I know i'm not the only person out there likes movies listening to do. Your opinion is important too so please take me up on that offer. Fire me off an email telling me what you think. Classic movies are sent me. That email have loved to have enough feedback from listeners to head to listener episode podcasts. Just talk about movies. That other people think are wonderful. Classic as well to simulate email at the old man's email at yahoo dot com. You save out there dude off my grass. The kids good.

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Episode 31, A Conversation on Classic Movies

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Episode 31, A Conversation on Classic Movies

"Mama when our the san me this say sanity get off mar grass coming up on this episode of the old days. Podcast coming up on the next episode of the old man's podcast. I'm staying with the theme of classics. This classic conversation is going to be on the topic of movies talk about eight decades of classic movies. All john ras all interesting. Look we all have different tastes. You and i and everybody else appreciate different kinds of movies all like the same thing establish just because we have different tastes doesn't mean we should maybe not try something a little bit different so i'm throw out a list of hall of fame. Classic films that in my opinion everyone should see. And maybe you'll find hidden jim in here that you never knew you'll find a hidden gem that you never really knew about never thought about seeing and you'll check it out. It'd be happy that you did. Maybe that's why everybody should listen to the old man's podcast acid on All right here we go talk classic movies on this episode of the old man's podcast unlocked going on here. So i'm not gonna mickey mouse around and get just get to the point so that don't take up all your time also gonna try to make this one's fun for you. So here's what i'm thinking. I've selected my movies going back. The oldest one is nineteen thirty. Three i know. I got some movie fans out there. Some of you probably aren't. You're probably just curious about what i got going on here. Like a train record something in the city where this is gonna take. You gonna play a game. So i'm gonna give you a quote or a fun fact or piece of trivia or star of a particular movie and see if you can guess what movie it is as i said i'm going back to nineteen thirty. Three's the oldest one is better than eight decades of movies that are considered classics. Not just by me. Although i'm all i care about right now so it's my opinion. It matters my show but at any rate This research got some expert opinions on what constitutes classic movie and then with that. So let's see how you score on your knowledge of classic movies can get a lot of these right. You are going to be classified a classic movie expert. That's how cool is that. It's like going to school. I don't need books aereo. i one up. I hate snakes and the lead character is named after the family dog. The dog's name indiana character indiana jones and mandate he hates snakes so lost ark. I one up. My category by the way is action adventure. Nineteen eighty-one film raiders. Lost ark might be as good of action movies. You could ever expect to see. He doesn't want to be a hero but He can't be it's also kind of funny. Liked the look on his face. When we're in a guy came with the sword is pull out his gun and shot him. I guess i shouldn't say that it's funny. Somebody lost her life but wasn't a real person who is just two sewri. I second one up. You are not going to get this. Won miss town right now. This is an oddity that i doubt any of you have seen but if you light movies you should see this one and I dunno offers a reboot but it was the idea between behind a movie that i really enjoyed as a kid. Yul brunner's magnificent. Seven in a magnificent seven was redone recently. Like in the last couple of years and denzel washington was the star. Neither denzel does debbie goodness movies exception to magnificent seven. But you know. The japanese film us. Right gordon and the japanese the magnificent seven is based on poor. Farming community pulled its resources and hires seven samurai to protect them from a brutal gang of bandits to keep stealing the harvest every year. It's a safe stories magnificent seven the original film nineteen fifty. Four is the seven samurai. Yes it's black and white it. Don't let that scalia like action. Movies data flavor for history. Go at the seven samurai. Look this duck hawk net flicks crime. You find it. It's findable this. What is done by john ford. It has been critically acclaimed as a cinematic classic. So western. a western not experts on the subject of moody's considered as classic. John wayne plays a character named heath and edwards. His character is a pathological racist and yet the enduring template for really what became today's modern anti hero. Ethan edwards is searching for his niece. Got kidnapped by a band of comanche. So that's the nineteen fifty six film. The searchers what you hoped would become a rescue mission actually starts off as an assassination trip. He wants to find her in killer because she's lived with the comanche. Too long ever come back and be normal human being. I guess but they in as little twist you haven't ever seen the searchers in need to see the searchers another nine thousand nine hundred eighties action adventure. You're gonna get this one right away. Yippee mother. I don't have to finish it because you know how it finishes. Because you know the movies diehard this might just be the perfect action movie. It's certainly hard to think of one better or at least one hasn't been as imitated as much. I mean there's been die hard on a boat under siege. Was that movie. Remember the von dame movie sudden death diehard in a hockey arena. And i can remember nineteen ninety s film diehard in a private school called masterminds. There's lots of diehard imitations. Bruce willis made being an action hero. Something a regular fella did. It wasn't just some big muscle. Next up frankly scarlet. I don't give a damn you know that's gone with the wind. Nineteen thirty nine with talk about that year. Organised second gone with the wind. Became the highest. Earning film made up to that point now. Of course the film industry wasn't even half a century old. So big deal right well. If you adjust for inflation it is still too day. The highest grossing film in history. Talk about popularity right. I i said one thousand nine hundred eighty nine a big year. Lots of things came out in nineteen thirty nine. I'm not gonna talk about john wayne coming out with stagecoach whoops. I just did because at deserves mention. That's why but the other big phone one thousand nine hundred eighty nine had you following the yellow brick road because you're off to see the wizard. All three of those mega films came out in one thousand nine hundred thirty nine. What's interesting about the wizard of oz. Is that the real world with dorothy lives in kansas shot and black and white film and in a soon as she gets to is where the yellow brick road is it. All went to what was relatively new color. And i think that's really interesting. I was smart smart production. Work way to go guys. I that's a fraction adventure. I love action. Movies in terms of significant classic action movies that had enough that on the john mara or affect on the industry of movies themselves. That's it now you may. You may think more. That's great issue. Comedy i love comedies. That can kill all day. Long with comedy just whittle down to the ones that i thought had made a significant impact on the industry of film and the first one i believe. Did it's a musical. And what's this guy doing. The rain yeah. He's singing in the rain. That was nineteen fifty two. Now i wasn't gonna do musicals. But i think this one deserves some credit. I feel like and as i did the research and looked at the data that was available in seems like this was the first really super popular straight up musical. The sides white christmas. So i'm believe those two movies have had time in the fifties shown producers and moviemakers. You can do a musical for the big screen and it can be successful so singing array conic right. What's the first thing you do if it's raining and you're stuck out moran you start singing or lease it gets in your head. It does me right. That's a classic movie with a classic scene a classic line. Even if you've never seen a movie you still know the meaning of singing in the rain now. You probably didn't see this one if you're over the age of sixty might of and i did. This is a stanley kubrick. Genius comedy star. Manson darkest comedy peter. Sellars is in it. He's on hand by all means and he plays three separate parts. Anybody know you got a guy sitting on a bomb. Agate away right there dr strangelove or another title. What by was how. I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb the height of the cold war one thousand nine hundred sixty four. That movie made an impact on society. It was politically leaning and it. Just it just was timely. Dr strangelove check that movie out in one thousand nine hundred eighty one of the most quotable movies ever that i've seen came out. I'll give you one of these quotes now but you know looks like i picked the wrong week to quit. Amphetamines dana seventies. Disaster movies were huge poseidon adventure airport so these guys did a spoof on disasters movies. One airport is airplane. Surely this is a classic comedy. And you don't call me surely see what i did there. Don't call me shirley okay anyway next one up and this is the oldest one is when i told you buy from nineteen thirty three in its marx brothers. It's duck soup. I know you haven't seen it. But i suggest you get on the internet search fort and find it and watch it. It's a political satire. This is right in the heart of the brush and nineteen thirty three. The movies only sixty eight minutes long. But it's a masterpiece and If you like comedies and you've never seen a marked robert shirts slapstick and napper witty. But it's funny and slapstick needs and make a comeback because marx brothers three stooges. Somebody needs to redo all that slapstick stuff. All right this one was my for. My favorite movies is a kid was nine years old. When it came out i saw. I was just mesmerized by it. You probably were too dick van. Dyke plays a crackpot inventor caracas hots. Pots is a widowed father. He has to precocious kits at the movie yet. Chitty chitty bang bang. Chitty chitty bang bang. Yeah it's a car. I was singing the song. It's a car and can y he invents this car. Does everything flies. It's about it's a car can do everything for a small kid. It was magical for years prior to that was another disney film with dick mandak again and He's a chimney sweep. You got that right. Mary poppins has another musical. And in think is significant in terms of how it affected the john mara as singing in the rain. But i do think it's a significant did get a sequel recently. You may have saw that in the last couple years. I tell you almost like that. One better but the mary poppins in the sequel little more. Believable is kind of strict or stern. As you'd expect an english nanny to be and get this dick van dyke in the second one to gets up on a desk and dances. It's amazing if you haven't seen it. You should see it okay. Exit for my comedies. I love comedies. Input all bunch in there. I'm looking for classic. Wants significant films that change the industry even though anchor man's great classic. It didn't change the industry. Many of the comedies that i love we all love. Just it'll get to be called classics because they really didn't change much about the industry but they're great can watch a comedy everyday. Okay here's a favorite category my for the big screen science fiction. I've always enjoyed science fiction as a kid read science fiction. There wasn't as much to see it. The movies science fiction as there has been in recent years and science. Fiction is a great john run. Let's wonderful would gun right on a big screen star with the best one in a galaxy far far away. That's the longest running franchise science fiction for sure. Maybe just the longest running franchise in movie history. It's an industry unto itself and it's still purnell on marvelously. I love watching the mandalorian which is on disney so the first one holds up with the rest of them even though it was made in nineteen seventy seven star wars not long after that so the i guess the john rose science fiction taken off or the really good when it came out in nineteen seventy nine and one thing that it did is us action early wentz not just heroes heroines. This action heroine sigourney. Weaver was cough. She was bad ass and there were super scary. Double jaw creatures. Is she killed with impunity. What was the movie alien. Great special effects in an era was really special effects started. My name is how you know that movie well. It was predicted future. It was made in nineteen sixty eight and it was telling us what might take place in two thousand and one air off and nineteen years ago. Didn't happen two thousand one. A space odyssey was way ahead of his time. This is stanley kubrick. It's a story of technological progress disaster. And i'll tell you what they use cynical for sure about the future but it felt prosthetic then and it feels just as prophetic now. Fifty years later especially the ai park. Because that's what. Hal is housing ai. Turn on a human overlords and you guessed this one. You finally did it. You maniacs you blew all to how. I didn't realize that rod sterling actually wrote the script for plant the apes and it has a bit of rod sterling feel to it powdered. I know that we're following. An astronaut played by charlton. Heston its twisty. So that's kind of where that twilight zone rod sterling plot comes from and there's been a lot of of Planet of the apes movies made since then but of them are measured. Instead i one which was in my opinion the best one now after they did that i won the planet. He h in nineteen sixty eight hundred four sequels battle of the planet. They didn't pretty quick. That was nineteen seventy three. When the core the fifth version was done tim. Burton got to do a remake so right around the turn of the century. Two thousand one. There was a remake of the original plan. Rape with tim burton. Who was okay. But they rebooted the a series of ten years ago. The first one came out in two thousand eleven and they did another one. Twenty fourteen twenty seventeen so rise of the planet apes dawn of the planet in war. The you might remember previous podcast. When cinematic critic ryan dat line and i were discussing this with the lighter. Xi mu one more that just hasn't been closure on the planet while it's been three years and i don't think it's common fishing. I'm gonna go to another category for science fiction. I'm not gonna thrillers in this. My biggest category 'cause these movies grabbed my attention. The first one is one of my absolute favorites one day and that day may never come. I will need you to do a favor for me. Every mob movie from this nineteen seventy-two classic the godfather every movie whether it's goodfellas casino tv series like the sopranos. They all their lead agency. If you will to the legacy left behind by the corleones family in the godfather and this one was one of them. He pictured joe pesci she. Do i make you laugh my clown or something. That was in one thousand. Nine hundred ninety goodfellas a loved it sells it was the whole cast. Great really makes me wonder. What's my fascination with the mob. Lie style it's tragic. Those guys all everything ends up back either go to jail or end up dead almost always dead. I guess that's train wreck thing. I can't stop looking at it right next. Stop one thousand nine hundred sixty movie itself. In my opinion birth of the psychological thriller. it's an alfred hitchcock film of course and i've never gotten any shower without remembering scene of the shower in the movie. Psycho from nineteen sixty. A fun fact cycle i learned is the first film that ever had a toilet being flushed in it. The sound of being flushed incite saiga. She actually got to see it. That it never happened can interesting okay. Here's a nineteen seventy five thriller one of the throw in relish the ball for going to need a bigger boat one of the most expensive ever made jaws and is probably limited amount of time. I've been willing to spend any ocean. Ever since one thousand nine hundred seventy five so forty. Five years ago my swimming in the ocean times being down significant none of you're gonna get this one you're only few of you've actually seen it. Let's see if you can get this one in quotes from you recognize him but i'll set you up with the Seen if you've missed this if you have missed dome go get it right out or find it your search out where you can watch it because two of my favorite actors are in this robert deniro. Who you're going to hear more films robert deniro than any other actor out on my list and al pacino there together on this movie from nineteen ninety. Five is the first time they are ever on screen at the same time. Technically they warrant. I'll tell you about that. The second name of the movie is heat. That's a masterpiece. As i said those two great actors one playing stoic master criminal and the others and obsessed cop wants to bring the criminal down now. My allegiance probably would too if he watched it changes as the plot is unveiled. You wanna root for the cod but you also feel like criminals. Got reasons why he's doing it. It turned in a sometimes. A cop makes himself look like the bad guy. so i think this one you like cops and robbers rubies. This is the last word on that one for sure and it has a magic. To a kind of crime thriller even today tries to recapture fun. Fact on this the narrow pacino weren't ever actually on the set at the same time there's one scene where they're in a diner talking to each other in a booth across from each other. The scenes were shot separately. Apparently they did have an inner schedule that they could be together the same time so shot the scene looking at the narrow shot. The scene looking pacino. Probably use doubles back at her heads to look like he was talking to somebody and splice it all together and edited out and it looks like they're having a conversation in a dire. They weren't anywhere near each other. Very very custodian. Next one up. I see dead. People nineteen ninety nine film. The sixth sets sick sess a word of mouth head long before it ever hit the big screen and the reason is that twisty ending. We all came the love. I love twisty anyway. This is the twisty ending to beat all twist. It's got to be one of the most unforgettable endings of movie history and that was a part of the huge marketing campaign. Really spend a lot of money on it. It was just word of mouth. People had to see what the twisty ending was. And i did the twist. There's another movie has got it twisted roy. Like can't give you this quote without giving away from madurai fill in the blank. What happens in fill in the blank stays in fill in the blank now by vegas clowns. It's fight club that's another twisty ending. That's a real twisty inning. It was great. It is a comedy but it's up blacker than black comedy. I stuck it here and thrillers. Because it's pretty thrilling. Feel like Dark comedy and a lotta punching. You gotta see by club night a couple of thrillers that i wanted to pick out because they have military theme and i really do enjoy watching films with a military theme in and they're still making those today like recently nine thousand nine hundred seventeen came out great movie. Maybe a classic. But it hasn't gone. More than twenty years yet deadlines i one up because in one thousand nine hundred sixty three and listen to the actors earlier. This should give it away to him. Steve mcqueen the coolest man ever charles prompts. James garner richard attenborough. Now's before he was in jurassic park. Dinosaurs lose that guy. James coburn and it's based on a true story from war to the name of the movie. The great escape greek one now that came out and sixty three year before that another movie was made with a military theme. This one was kind of like if you liked Saving private ryan with the d day aspect of the whole thing. That's what this movie is about. It's it's about the experience if you owe the who's in i'll give you the names in. You'll probably get the help while the duke. The great one. John wayne robert mitchum. Richard burton sean connery long. Before he's ever devastat and henry fonda red buttons peter lawford eddie albert. Those names this is. The only movies comes close. They haven't all the men there with this movie. Accuracy was gold and several of the cast members and actually seen action as servicemen during world war two. They're replicating at least as best. They could events that surrounded d day and as german. General erwin rommel said going to be the longest day. We have to stop them at the beach. D day which he knew was coming was going to be the longest day. That's the name of the movie. So the film employed german and allied military consultants people who had really been there. German officers british officers canadian officers american offer so course and accuracy was what they were striving to get. So if you're interested in military history all and you never seen a long day you really need to not black and white that to me gives it the feel of historic nece but they did do a colorized version later on kaji. Half the see color and can do that all right. Let's go to drama. The old man's podcast is produced on anchor. And if you haven't heard about anchor let me tell you a little bit about it. It is absolutely the easiest way to make a podcast. And it's free anchor has creation tools. That allow you to record. And edit your podcast right from your phone or computer anchor. We'll distribute your podcast for you. So it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts. And many more podcasts delivery apps you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in just one place. It's easy it's free. It's what you can use to become a podcast. Not dramatic right. I think the first one that was i need to mention head. Groundbreaking filming techniques so it uses new technique called deep focus catastrophe which allowed the camera to focus on a person scenery around wasn't going to be necessarily blurry like regular cam techniques anyway citizen kane from nineteen forty one is the movie and it's recognized by all critics as being a classic and ushered in some new filming techniques. That are still in place today. I'll bet you none of you hit this. One is a great film but because it is a great film but you wouldn't have thought about it was One thousand nine hundred nine and it was spike lee. The movie has lost. None of its relevance in fact if anything it's gain some what movie was it do the right thing. The first major film. I recall making a social statement that actually affected our society this film by spike lee. Do the right thing and nineteen eighty nine. I think had an effect on how we looked at the world around us in the world that we were making. And that's probably the most you can ask a film that it can make an impact on people's lives. The right thing. Did that quote hamburgers. The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast not winfield. There wasn't a whole lot of quotes. I get used from him. That didn't have bad words. They want to submit into that. So this is the one went with hamburgers. The cornerstone at any nutritious breakfast from pulp fiction nine hundred ninety four. It's violent but it's like a train wreck you can't take your eyes off of it in this one i'll tell you it was nineteen sixty two film and it was a huge movie. Cinematic lee speaking set was enormous. It was set with arabian landscapes. It was groundbreaking at the time. Not just an outside film. People done films off the set in long on location before but this was enormous because who was north africa and of course the movie is lawrence of arabia. Here's a movie. That takes us back to the thirties. And it had two great actors in it. Fade done away in warren beatty. It was game changing. The action was the way the film was made. It was fun. It was morally all over the place. The characters that were being played by faye dunaway warren. Beatty were definitely bad people. It's bonnie and clyde right. Bonnie and clyde nineteen sixty seven film but the movie was able to kind of replicate. What was really going on at the time. Almost make you a fan of them at a time or at least feel sorry for them. Love your unafraid of blood and bullets. It's a pretty gory film. If you've never seen the original bonnie clyde from nineteen thousand nine hundred sixty seven and recommend you do not a super weird film that came out in nineteen seventy nine. It's Francis ford coppola vietnam war classic and martin sheen young martin sheen heads up river to kill a renegade. Colonel played by marlon brando. At movie is of course apocalypse. Now lie weird stuff. Going on on surfin thrilling helicopter raid were smelling napalm in the morning. That was supposed to be good. Somebody gets attacked by a tiger. An playboy bunnies and it's kind of a crazy movie but theft kinda. What vietnam was. I think that's what they're trying to portray once martin sheen steps off the boat. Different world is crazy that scene with the fireworks and all that i mean vietnam just it looks like a mass in in a was movie. Did a good job or train at are you talking to me seem by else here. You must be talking late. are you talking to me. Recognize at one. Nineteen seventy six taxi driver. Yeah against another robert deniro you. We're gonna have more deniro movies in here. Anything else especially thriller because he's done some classics. Okay nineteen fifty nine. This movie is sixty one almost sixty two years ago but i know that because it was the year i was born a smoky pool hall. K paul newman is a pool is name is fast. Daddy felsen he's trying to hustles way into the billiard. Major leagues gets in over his head in a high stakes rivalry with the legend and cool. Then a soda. Fats played by jackie gleason to get it yet. It's called the hustler. It's a good one guys really if you have never seen hustle and then right after that watch the follow up. Because a sequel like jairo twenty. Five years later comes out mighty longer. That was one thousand nine hundred six. Look that up so sixty two six years later. A sequel comes out with hot new actor by the name of tom cruise. So now paul newman's character fast eddie. Fast eddie felson. He gets back into the game of billiards when he takes on this young hotshot tom cruise and he becomes his mentor. That movie the color of money dope. You have seen the color of money. You should go back and watch. The sort of movie started the whole thing. If you haven't seen either one of them go get him. I this one is great guy all time playing video games. My kids know dumb. Bastard wanna war by dying for his country he wanted by making the other poor dumb bastards die for his. Who said that. George patton nineteen. Seventy movie was fantastic george. He's got played a great patent. I didn't realize this. But filmmaker francis ford coppola wrote the story directing was car production. He wrote the story got his start. If you're a big fan of coppola that just makes it. Even that more tastier to catch this film. I think that opening scene in patent where he's addressing his troops and stand in front of this gigantic flag it's iconic and it might just be the best movie opening ever. You haven't seen patent check it out now this one. This is an interesting remember seeing lives in high school. It was two years after. Richard nixon's nineteen seventy four resignation. And it's kinda docudrama about the watergate break in and how it all came to be so. It was kind of gutsy to do that so soon. After the actual event the name of the movie all the president's men came out in nineteen seventy six. it was great it was A masterpiece really dialogue is riveting if you like political thrillers and this one's probably been the blueprint for everyone cents. You need to go back and hit all the president's men sometimes filmmakers Us technique. that's really simple. This film in make their movie in black and white like franklin stein was done in black and white so it looked like it was an older film. That was done with this one. I'll give you the quote safe you can name. The movie. could've been a contender. The movie raging bull and again robert. Deniro it's kind of kind of it is a true story about the boxer world champion. Jake lamotta jake. Lamotta was quite a character. Deniro plays them. I guess is t as much as any of us can tell. It's a mashup of grit and beauty. What the gloves on. Lamade is in his element. But you take them off. And he's a sociopath consumed by jealousy and his buddy jo passions in this one with him. So if you like. Robert deniro. Joe patchy together. Who doesn't and you haven't seen a raging bull. You need to so about sixty years ago. i guess. Halfway through the last century gumshoe flat foot detective shows were real popular the most popular one feature a detective by the name of sam spade in this movie. Sam spade is looking or something very important. This is from nineteen forty one and it stars humphrey bogart. You know which movie it is. The maltese falcon. It was a real trailblazer especially for the era. It became a template for all the film new wall flex would follow. Bogart plays a jaded but a noble gumshoe time for private detective. He added as a female and the female towel there and the couple shifty villains. And you've got a plot that still catches you today. Kind of grabs you by the nose. Drags around all over the place. You don't know where to go from one moment to the next but it's intriguing and it keeps you near amman humphrey bogart. I'm gonna do one more and no you're gonna notice one play it again. Sam casa blanca nineteen forty two. Now i have to. Hopefully some of you know this. But i have to be honest. Played against him. Although people think that is the quote it really wasn't the actual thing is said in. The movie is play it. Sam play asked. Time goes by the comedians or whoever this movie such a classic that that line became played again sam. Everybody knows what we're talking about. But it's not the right quote it was filmed during world war two. It was set in north africa during world war two and when the allies invaded north africa in nineteen forty two. That's the year thing came out perfect. Perfect timing so bogart plays ex american. He kind of moved away for america. Open up a business there in morocco and north africa. It opens up a bar. It's called the cafe americana so anytime year out and about you see a pub or restaurant or any place named cafe americana this kind of stealing app from the movie casablanca which is where his character rick. Well it's rick's cafe americana rick who played by humphrey bogart not a great quote in that movie of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world she walks into mine. He had the whole. Thing's got a love story to have begun to see it if you haven't seen it at recommend you do when it comes to watching movies whores at go-to i'm like a comedy or action sci fi something like that man has been some great war movie so i don't talk about him. Missing out now must start. With the classic of classics. I love watching the saami shows. Now i've seen every episode of the walking dead. I've seen the fear at the world. They wanted things to world beyond or something. See all three series area. I'm just intrigued by zombies. Probably aren't but you probably do know the original zombie movie to get all that started. Nineteen sixty eight night. A living dead guesses black white and it still carries our. I didn't wanna watch this one. Originally but i did and It was scary. It was best known for being a low budget sensation. Now ultimately two hundred and fifty million in the global box office. That's ten times more than it costs to make. Those really said exactly how much cost they've gone to sixty five thousand can't believe that but they were dead and everything. It'd probably came closer to two hundred thousand. This movie premiered in the sundance film festival. Right at midnight on purpose. The marketing campaign for this film definitely deserves classic status so they listed the actors in this film as either missing or deceased and this movie was well known before you could ever see it. People at the time were asking trying to figure out where it has. His work laseyette working. I see it in the movie. The blair witch project. It was shot like the opening salvo in selfie generation. So is shot like a bunch of kids. Were out in the woods. Filming your life and kind of volun- story and doing a class project for college class. Something like that and they tried to make it look real so when they said the actors were missing or deceased. they're awaken not to. They had died in the woods. From the blair witch. That was an awesome hawk and the movies worth watching to get all scared. But just keep telling yourself it's not real because it looks real now this one's a real classic but it's it's so corny leather face. You know who led her faces. The title of this movie is a killer piece of marketing. The texas chainsaw massacre just title tells you everything eating though it is a classic film shot. Nine thousand nine hundred seventy four came out in nineteen seventy four and it's a classic or film worth seeing it. Just keep telling yourself. It's not real stupid golf. Think this is one of the scariest movies. Our saw nineteen eighty ready for the. Here's johnny yeah. You know the movie again. Another stanley kubrick between deniro being the best actor. I think the mall the film. I've watched kubrick all the films that i've watched this guy's god and he steady cams remember the kid riding the they will for the steady cam. And you feel like you're on the big wheel with them and all the crazy stuff going on in a hotel had a shining is shining was one of the scariest films. Our sada big. We'll seen i can't even look at it. They will now start sweating. I got one. I won't put out for you for hannah. Did one. Because i think there's only one that really is classified as a classic to infinity and beyond and because i don't tell you what movie that is or who said that just proved that i was right as that toy story is a classic toy story. If you remember was the one that got pixar. Rolling are wasn't a thing until toy story came out and we all saw that lamp the kind of jumps around as introduced pixar. It became a term that we all recognize. We knew what that meant. I think that it was and probably still is a high water. Mark for computer generated animation. Toy story reinvented really what a family kids loved it adults loved it somehow magically transcends between generations appeals to everyone and sets and i think this was the groundbreaking one and why it gets classic film designation because of that you recognize the features of the story the jealousy the power dynamics relationships between the people and makes you as an adult. Remember your childhood. I think a little bit is a great film now. Computer graphics have come a long way. Since if you've seen the new redone. Lion king i'm telling you they look real. It looks at real lions standing there talking. But i'm gonna go back to toy story being one got all this started getting better and better all time all right. I got one last film. I'm just gonna leave it with this. I have a guilty pleasure. If i'm flipping through and i see it on. I'm gonna watch this movie. I can pick it up wherever it's very beginning a very end anywhere in the middle and just be pleased that i'm watching it. It's just enjoyable. Ready it's roadhouse. There's so many good coats. And roadhouse clear it's just It's guilty pleasure. That's all. I can say i'm gonna watch it. You pipe thinking stupid. You got your guilty players right. what are they. I'd be interested to hear what you think. Great classic movies were in your lifetime asked to go longer twenty years but hit me with an email at the old man's email and yahoo dot com. One word there's no apostrophe before the s the old man's email at yahoo dot com. Let me know what you think are classic domes needed. I left out and that clock. Were pretty stupid. That i said they might all. But i'm interesting your thoughts. I'd love to do listeners episode listener stories up so work. I talk about things that you guys like so say an email. What do you think is a classic movie. Well folks that'll be another episode own. Man's podcast is as they say. I like this one was like they were topic. Movies look at classic. Movies is one of the old man's classic conversations now. I was just my opinion. I know i'm not the only person out there likes movies listening to do. Your opinion is important too so please take me up on that offer. Fire me off an email telling me what you think. Classic movies are sent me. That email have loved to have enough feedback from listeners to head to listener episode podcasts. Just talk about movies. That other people think are wonderful. Classic as well to simulate email at the old man's email at yahoo dot com. You save out there dude off my grass. The kids good.

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Treating the Pain of a Broken Heart

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

39:53 min | 2 months ago

Treating the Pain of a Broken Heart

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It was clear that the pain he felt that fateful day was still very fresh his mind nicole shot. I what just happened. And then you're wondering why. And then i was. Just oh my god. The whole tiny for so long. So what was the event that caused such awful and such long lasting pain for decades. Tim got rejected as you'll soon here in some historic detail. Tim suffered one of the. Most incredible protracted an over the top rejections. I'd ever heard of. But even though tim story of rejection is probably more extreme than anything you are. I have experienced. I bet you can still relate to the hurt. he's describing which raises some questions. Why does rejection feel so awful. And what strategies can we use to blunt the sharp emotional pain that it brings minds are constantly telling us what to do to be happy. But what if our minds are wrong. What if our minds are lying to us leading us away from really make us. Happy is understanding the science of mind point us all back in the right direction. You're listening to the happiness lab with dr larry centers. When i began planning this episode about the science of rejection never actually heard of tim cole. Sorry or historian. And when i finally did hear his tragic tale. I honestly couldn't quite believe it. Tim had already endured a pretty dynamic in adventure filled life even before the epic rejection that changed his path forever. Went in the marine Eighteenth birthday month. Vietnam spent thirteen months denying and got out of my twentieth birthday in two months later i was rolled in college and after about my senior year. One of my good friends turned pro. Golf wanna be cloudy form on the tour. And i turned pro about year later. I played about three years. Then i thought. What am i going to do with myself. End up miami waiting tables On as an airline flight attendant actually have been the guavas marine flight attendant and a stand up comedian. I don't think anybody say that lots of people had their hearts broken trying to make is a stand up comedian or a professional golfer. But not tim. That wasn't where his anguish came from. He also wasn't being known as a low paid waiter or sleep-deprived flight attendant. Tim's real tale of woe started when he embarked on a new career path on a whim. He decided to join a friend for an acting class. This is what we call a born natural. Nobody came up to me afterwards. I said you really good. I'm good acting. that's what i'm good at. Tim was determined to find his way into the movie business. But it was hard for a veteran living in florida with no acting experience to break into hollywood so when tim heard about an open casting call for big budget war movie he decided to rent a camera and make an audition video despite his lack of acting credentials to was still hoping to land one of the biggest roles in the war film. Bootcamp drill instructor. He had after all been a real marine. So i knew. I play it in my mind. Tim scrape together enough money for the stamps. Ten dollars eighty seven cents. I remember that distinctly and mailed off his audition tape. I hope it gets to worst supposed to go. That's all thought. And then three years. I completely forgot about the tape. Completely one fateful day. The phone rang out. Damn this is lewis. Bob present brothers. I have a tremendous amount of faith in stanley kubrick. Tim stanley kubrick has a tremendous amount of faith. In kim coles air ran over to the window. And i put my head down what that's right. Stanley kubrick the director of dr strangelove a clockwork orange. Two thousand one a space odyssey and the shining that stanley kubrick had picked tim a complete acting newbie to star in his next project. Oh so happy so. Tim learned that he'd not only been cast in. Full metal jacket kubrick's epic about the horrors of the vietnam war but also the he'd landed the lead role of the brutal drill instructor. If you haven't seen the movie this character is pretty incredible. He takes a bunch of royal marines to their basic training. Making some and breaking others know spoiler but he eventually meets a tragic end in one of the most memorable moments of the movie. Tim was over the moon landing the part but he didn't have much time to celebrate. He was quickly flown off to england where he learned page after page of dialogue. It was a stressful into lonely. Time 'cause i was detroit instructor that kept me away from the rest of the actors because they didn't want them to get to know me because they wanted me to be menacing and mean in front of them. When i did the scene. Tim timson hours alone in his hotel room learning his lengthy monologues screaming like a drill instructor at no one in particular week after week after week. It was really tough. Bilac really hard to do. Tim stop sleeping and even had to see a doctor because of all the stress but he thought all the isolation and anxiety and insomnia were worth it after all. He had the films most important part role he had dreamed about for years. But what tim didn't know was he wasn't the only one who had been dreaming about the drill instructor role. Another former marine lee ernie had wanted to land that very same part but lee was chosen instead as the film's technical advisor and lee had a plant. Unlike tim who was locked away learning his dialogue legal to spend a lot of time with the cast as technical advisor lease job was to work with the other actors which meant that he got to ad. Lib bunch of lines from the movie and whenever kook was around lee made sure to come up with as many colorful new drill instructor lines as he could. He tried to embody all the nastiness of a real marine sergeant which got kubrick thinking. Eventually he sent his assistant to find him and opened the door and his face looked like death immediately. See taking my role away from me said. Read the letter yet. An envelope and opened up in the very first lines near tim. After paints a lot of deliberation. I decided to usually play sergeant hartman. I have two starting quarterbacks. I need to choose one apparently cooper kay decided that he no longer had tremendous faith in. Tim's airy it was a crushing rejection. Whatever your job is in the world if you could think the highest place. You could get you at that time. That was me the best role. I could get with the best director and the best film and it was mine so when that became taken away at heart may big. Tim was totally bereft but then feet seem to intervene. Li army was in the hospital. I get a phone call. Saying lee was in a very serious car accident. Don't go anywhere you got the rollback. Tim was going to play the drill sergeant again. Suddenly his dream role was back until it wasn't. He got another phone call. It turns out the film was required to allow the army to recover incomplete filming. Tim was given quick. Never mind sorry to get your hopes up. I had to fly back to the united states. Everybody is going to go over there while my big role. But i got this other roy will wanna play and the aftermath of losing his dream part twice kubrick decided to tossed him a sort of consolation prize a bit part in the movie. That didn't even have a name. Tim was asked to play helicopter door. Gunner the door gunner headache three lines of dialogue and spent most of his seen gleefully mowing down innocent women and children in the fields rushing by below. It was a tiny tiny part but the violent scene had left an impression on tim when he'd i seen a copy of the script immediately said to myself man. Whoever plays that role is gonna have a ball. I never thought made me so tim. Lee being a kubrick film after all he waited for the call to return to the set but when the call came it was yet another disappointment. The door gonna scene had been cut. And i remember coming up the phone and gone. We go again. Wow i had like a oscar-nominated roll the vegetable. I could think about to another great role to know row. Wow tim story. Amazingly isn't over yet but what struck me during our chat was just how raw this rejection still feels. Decades later being shunned by kubrick felt painful and disorienting at the time but the wound tim received as a young man still hurts him deeply well into his seventies. His scars never really healed the drain thing of my life. Take that away. Everybody else's secondary after that and nothing shots you anymore. We get back the break. We'll explore the science of why rejection can leave such deep wounds. We'll learn a surprising truth about how rejection works in the brain and what understanding the strange truth means for how we can protect ourselves from the pain of being shunned the happiness lab. We'll be right back. What if there was a superhero. Who had an amazing power to make hiring faster smarter and easier. Well think of ziprecruiter like that minus the tights and right now you can try ziprecruiter for free. Only at the special place. Ziprecruiter dot com slash. Happiness was sort of hiring superpowers ziprecruiter. Have well instead of fighting. 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Ice burger and matt lieberman the mary couple studies how the brain processes rejection but the couple differs in their personal experience with this phenomenon. Closest is like if our teenage son doesn't hug her enough then she feels rejected but keep in mind. He still hugs her. And that's what she considers to be an experience of rejection. So i think as much as she is an expert on the science rejection. She doesn't know anything about the experience of actual mac however has had more than his fair share of this painful experience. I have had like major rejection. I add know a six year relationship and completely out of the blue. Like just had no idea was coming. It was definitely one of the most painful experiences of my life. I think up until i had kidney stones. I said that was the most painful experience of my life. It was really brutal and the pain from that was not only awful then but it lasted for you. Know a solid six months early on in their careers neo and matt knew that they wanted to study this painful emotion better so they decided to embark on a neuro scientific study of rejection to figure out how being shunned was processed in our brains but they weren't totally sure how to start. Because when you think about it rejection isn't all that easy to study in the laboratory let alone inside a brain scanner. I mean researchers can't just assigned subjects to a condition in which they suddenly break off a decades long romance or get fired from a major motion picture. Naomi and matt were stumped about how to get their subjects to experimentally experience. A sense of spurning that is until they met psychologist kip williams and learned about his new invention. Cyber ball cyber has now become an important scientific tool for studying people social emotions but it kind of looks like a bad arcade game from the early eighties. Here's how it works. Simon is a three person game. You and two other players. Real people who are allegedly sitting in another group have to toss of virtual ball back and forth for a while. The ball tossing goes in the way. You'd expect you throw the ball to the first player that player throws it to the second player and then the second player throws a back to you and so on and so on but then something changes. You're playing this game was to other people and all of a sudden they completely leave you out and they're just playing with each other all of a sudden and totally without warning the other players stop throwing the ball in a flash. You are being rejected now. Of course getting despite two strangers in some lame arcade game isn't the same as getting dumped by your fiance or fired by stanley kubrick but williams found that subjects. Who experienced being left out in the game still have some amazingly strong reactions. Many subjects reported feeling deeply troubled. Some cut super pissed off others just felt kinda sad and hurt understand why they do that to me. That was so mean. I felt annoyed. I felt upset. Cyber may look clunky but the game causes people to feel all the hallmarks of social rejection. It was the exact sort of task that matignon had been looking for. Wow we could bring this into the hammer scanner and see what is on in the brain when people are being excluded but even though matinee ohm had been thinking about studying rejection in the brain for a while they were totally sure. What they'd see one possibility was that rejection worked like other negative emotions and so you might expect to see neurons firing in regions like the amid dela a part of the brain that now famous for its role in yucky feelings like anxiety and fear but naomi's own intense terror of being shunned guard thinking that rejection might work differently than the usual fear response. You know one is in our brains that is treating the possibility of rejection like you know the possibility of imminent. Like why are they connected. So the couple began to wonder whether rejection could affect our body and brain in the same way as other physically deadly things like a gunshot wound or cancer. We definitely talk about rejection. As though it's a physical injury we say. Someone hurt our feelings or broke our hearts. We talk about other people's actions as cutting to the core or leaving us emotionally scarred our colleagues jack mcdonald and mark leary have sort of surveyed. Different languages to see is this. Universal thing is the specific to the english language and they've found pretty universal had earns where across all of these different languages. You see people. Using pain related words describe rejection and they actually argue that we have no other way to describe experiences of rejection. Except with these pain words are language might lump heartache and heartburn together to our brains really experience emotional hurt in the same way as physical pain. Newman matt decided to test this. By putting people inside and fm ice skater and then having them play cyber ball the couple then lifted the parts of the brain that were more active when people got rejected their answer came one fateful afternoon when naomi was beginning her data analysis in a sheared graduate student office. Which meant that. Naomi wasn't the only one looking at brain scan results. My office made at the time she had done a study looking at pain. Serious pain like this was in irritable bowel syndrome patients who were being stimulated in various ways this was real painful experience neely in her meet both had pictures of their subjects brain responses up on the screen. When matt walked in when he looked back and forth at the two computer screens he was shocked. He couldn't tell which set of results was which the brain responses of people who are in bowel pain look just like the brain response of people who rejected and cyber ball. The results took the neuroscience community by storm and made many scholars realize that we hadn't given the pain of rejection. The scientific attention it deserved humans are set up to value connection to value social connections so much that our brains have figured out a way to use circuitry. That's typically there to keep us from injuring our bodies to keep us from feeling physical pain that seem circuitry is being used to make sure that we don't get cut off from others to me. That's a really amazing thing. And sort of helps normalize some of the intense fears that i might have a rejection like okay that is part of how it evolved in humans to play such an important value on social bonds that the possibility of having those bonds broken really does put us at greater risk in maybe as why our bodies respond in this really intense way to the possibility of being separated from others. Yeah you know one of the takeaways from this is that you know in. Our society were were kind of wired to take everybody else's physical pain very very seriously like. Oh you sprain your ankle. let's get you somewhere to get. That treated right away and we tend to look at other. People's social pain is something that's kind of like. Hey that's your business just like take care of that. Don't let that interfere with your work or your classwork or whatever it is and the thing is is that the brain probably doesn't differentiate them in the way that were treating them and so i think it's probably made me a bit more sort of empathic but neely and matt's findings also got them thinking about creative ways to alleviate the pain that feeling jilted can cause the couple's brain findings suggested a straightforward but also incredible possibility if the brain processes rejection like a painful physical injury. Say a kidney stone. Could the same drugs. We take to stop physical discomfort also. Protect us from social hurt. What if you sort of prescribed pain medicine for people who had social pain. Wouldn't that be hilarious. It was almost going to be a punchline in talk but we never thought it would work so we never ran that study. But nathan dwell. A professor of psychology at the university of kentucky. Thought it was worth trying out. He gave his subjects either. Pain medication. Acetaminophen the active ingredient in tylenol or a placebo pill for three weeks. Participants in both groups were asked to fill out a nightly survey on whether they'd felt teased or hurt by other people during the day. He also had a small group of these subjects. Perform naomi and matt cyber ball brain scan task. What happened by the ninth day of treatment. Subjects taking two medicine were feeling less hurt by their daily rejections than subjects. Taking the fake pill. Their brains also showed less activity in those same pain regions when playing cyber ball so it looked like there was really evidence that yeah is physical. Pain seems to be having an effect on social. Paint him it. It is really important to include the warning label. Which is that. tylenol is actually quite toxic. So when when. I talk about this with large audiences. I always tell them this because people were like. Oh cool the next time get rejected. I'll just take a bottle of tylenol and that will kill you. People should not try to do this at home in self administer because it's actually dangerous. Want echo matt here again. Do not take an aspirin or tylenol or any other painkiller to ease the hurt of rejection. it is dangerous. Do not do. It never ever seriously not a smart strategy. But naomi and matt's findings do provide an existence. Proof that there are ways to turn off the pain of rejection. When we get back from the break we'll see that there are some safeway's to knock you late ourselves in the people we love from the pain of rejection will learn that we don't need a drug to alleviate the heard of being jilted but we do need to get the right strategies to make sure our rejection cuts. Don't get infected. In fact we'll talk to a scientist who's come up with a host of simple strategies. We can use to fight our heartaches and feel better. 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They're rejecting my application. My application is something. I can work on and so it got my head together again. This might sound like a pretty enlightened reaction from an applicant who didn't even get a no thank you from the worst program in his entire field but guy has long been an expert on strategies. We can use to bounce back guy. Is the co host of deer therapists. A podcast that gives practical tips for how to recover when things don't work out in life. He's also the author of emotional first aid healing rejection guilt. Failure and other everyday hurts will. The idea is that we all have a medicine cabinet home and we're actually very good. If you get a cut you can. Actually most people can look at it and estimate whether that requires a aid a stitch or a uber to the emergency room but we get emotional wounds on a daily basis much more than we do physical ones these days because we're not skateboarding as much as adults. Or maybe we are. But we're not scraping our needs as we are experiencing fadia. We are experiencing rejection. We are experiencing loneliness and there's a lot of research that can tell us how he can sued some of those pains and treat some of those wounds except we're not aware of it. We don't use it now. That's not to say that we don't try to deal with our rejection pin. We often react very strongly to these emotions. The problem according to guy is that we do so in some very unhelpful ways. Like getting really angry when we start to our instinct is to go and kick the desk drawers. Did the punch something instinct for pain is the lash out and rejection. Pain in instinct is to lash out. Studies have shown that the anger projection makes us want to her other people in one experiment subjects. I got rejected game of cyber ball and then had a chance to lash out against group of innocent bystanders subjects. Were told that they needed to decide. How much hot sauce to make people drink in an upcoming taste test experiment. They were told that these taste testers didn't like spicy food but that they would have to drink whatever size shot of hot sauce. The subject poured what happened subjects. Who were rejected in the cyber ball task poured more than four times as much hot sauce as people who didn't get dissed other studies have rejection found that jolted subjects are more willing to punish strangers with the white noise blast. It's longer and louder than non rejected subject. Choose and that's mild right. That's hot sauce and loud noise but we also know that the ton of crimes of passion except they're actually consequences of rejection and they often involve very little passion just the anger that comes from being rejected and it's something that costs a lot of lives especially for women on an annual basis given the potential for such dire consequences guy argues that we need to learn how to treat rejection pain right away the same way. We'd grab a first aid kit to put a band aid on a cut few. Leave it up to a mind to make the decision about what's the best way to heal and emotional wounded will inadvertently send you down the wrong path. It will do the wrong thing because it just trying to protect you. From having their wound again is not trying to heal it in a adapted way. When i think of rejection first-aid i'll be honest. I think of booze frankly and ice cream. It's like what i think of like. Is this kind of common. You didn't invent an ice cream you know like in other words. That is the go-to but we are. We tend to numb the pain. That's a basic response was sugar. Let's it with alcohol all very well doesn't actually solve anything. You'll wake up feeling both hung over owner shas and still an emotional pain the next day. So it's not necessarily the most useful. What would be useful is to counter. Some of the impacts by festival exhibiting self compassion like literally go and find ways to beat ourselves up when our self esteem is at its lowest point and so instead of reviving self esteem and confidence. We're actually doing. The opposite is one of the most unfortunate tendencies. We have post rejection. So that's the first step of rejection first-aid stop making all those rejection wounds worse. Don't kick yourself when you're already down with all that negative self-talk but a second step is to fight. The urge to lick your wounds in solitude healing from rejection requires a dose of social connection with tribal animals and part of the rejection is about a need to belong anita feel affiliated with certain groups. It can be church group. It can be Amateur softball league. It can be a clique of friends. college remains but that group membership gives us literally this layer of protection this shield because we feel part of a group feel more protected in the moment of rejection. You won't but then go and reach out to your group and reconnect and have a few chats with people in the group to remind yourself of your fact that you belong that people appreciate you. And it's an amazing tonic. But what if you can't get that social support in person. What if you're like. Tim seri stuck in a foreign country away from your friends and family when you get fired or jilted for situations like these guy recommends a practice. He calls social snacking just as we grab a snack. When we're hungry but can't eat a full meal so too can we ease our social hunger was small reminders that were connected to others studies show that merely surrounding yourself with pictures and mementos of people you love can make the hurt of rejection subside. A bit but the most important rejection first-aid treatment according to guy is a practice that actively helps you remember your own value. You need to recall. You're still a good person. But not in the way that self help books suggest you don't need to launch into a bunch of cheesy positive affirmations like i'm beautiful and i'm gonna find great love kind of things and they often don't work because in the moment of rejection you actually don't feel beautiful or very optimistic about finding great love. That will actually make you feel worse. Guys work has found that a better value boosting technique is to get really specific. Let's say it's the romantic domain. Your head is going to take you all your shortcomings and deficiencies. What you need to do is balanced out so make a list of every quality that you know you have. It's got to be stuff you know you have not stuff. You would like to have things you know you have. It's gonna be real. That makes you a good dating prospect. You're emotionally available. You'll good within knows you make stupendous. Muffins backrub whatever. It is the make the list long and exhaustive and varied and then choose one of those things that's actually meaningful and write a couple of paragraphs about why that's a meaningful thing in relationships how you've exhibited in the past and how it's been appreciated or how it might be appreciated in the future. Do one of those a day when you're feeling rejected romantically. If it's about uber rejected from job do about what makes you a good employee. Your loyal you're reliable responsible your timely whatever it is but do things you know right out what bring to the what makes you valuable to directly counter that tendency to the opposite new head guy has found that leaving emotional wounds untreated without any rejection. First aid can have long term negative impacts on our psychological health. We do differently. You become very very risk averse. We withdraw instinct. Isn't it then go out and reconnect with the people who we can reconnect with its to withdraw. Because we become risk averse just don't et cetera. Anymore rejections guys description of these long-term wounds made me think back to my conversation with actor. Tim pulsar tim's experience of rejection cast a lifelong shadow over what should have been a moment of triumph to savor and enjoy. Because in the end. Tim did get to be in. Kubrick's full metal jacket his consolation prize role as that violent door gunner reinstated and he found out that it was a more prestigious part than he initially realized found out later. That they were. Thinking about. Bruce willis out comer also for the role shooting the door. Honor roll also meant spending an entire day with the director who had hurt him so badly. Wrong shooting back in stanley's backyard helicopter behind him sipping way and he looked at me. And what tim you have more energy kirk. Douglas nobody'll ever believe connecting with kubrick. Was tim's first step to improving his sense of belonging and self worth but tim god and even bigger sense of his own value when he attended the film's gala movie premiere can people over his clint eastwood and his wife. You know cisco nicholas cage. Everybody's baird i'm going. This is weird. You know when the film began. Tim was still distracted by his feelings of rejection. He watched his replacement lee. Hermes drill sergeants scenes with the jealous. I i remember saying. Oh i could have done that line better other new less good. That's a good one. He didn't give that enough. That i knew i could do that. A little better. Ooh ooh that's going to. And then when i came on which is an hour into the movie. If i in the very middle of the film i come on. I heard laughter throughout the audience chuckling. Connor and i thought to myself was i. I didn't know if i really didn't know was tim. Good and watched the film again. Recently in tim's performance is great. He's only on screen for a minute or two. His dark and disturbing scene is one of the most memorable of the film but as the years went by the recognition he received still wasn't enough to blot out. All the hurry experienced note. I shed for thirty five years. Every single person said you were in full metal jacket. The very first thing i said was yeah. Originally was the drill instructor before the door gunner. I always wanted to tell them. I had that role which is terrible. I should have been proud. You say it was the door gonna talk about that but always wanted to refer back to pour me getting screwed by having best role in the movie you know. I don't know why was like that but it took me a long time to get over that only now decades later has tim finally taken steps to treat his emotional pain in fact he started to follow a lot of the advice guy described. Tim recently developed an entire one. Man show about his life the show does address the kubrick debacle but it spends even more time on the other parts of tim's life once he's proud of like his own time in boot camp in funny stories from his life as a flight attendant to your craft and win over each wing jacko but he married in the end. Tim has successfully applied the first aid needed to heal his feelings of hurt. He's even been able to look back. More philosophically on his relationship with stanley kubrick. He wanted me in his movie. You know and appreciate them. I mean somehow stanley and me made it work. It really worked. It worked more than bobby. Stellian thought to this day. Still recite almost all. My bottom. Just blows me away when someone let you know that. They don't want you in their life in their workplace in their school for even in their hollywood movie it can be a crushing but in making this episode. I've learned that we don't need to suffer the pain of rejection by understanding how rejection works we learn how to heal life's emotional wounds but the science shows the we do need to take that pain seriously. We need to react to life's rejections quickly. Just like we would cut or a burn. When we're in emotional pain we need quick emotional first-aid so the next time you rebuffed. Don't just do what comes naturally and turn to the ice cream and booze easier hurt by making sure you connect with people who love and value and be sure to prevent that term emotional scarring by reminding yourself of the many qualities and blessings. You still enjoy losing a job or a romantic partner. Just don't change and of course it never hurts to learn more about other strategies. You can use to feel happier even in tough times. That's a does edison. You're sure to get in the next episode of the happiness lab would me. Dr larry santos To happiness lab is co written and produced by ryan deli our ritual music was composed by zachary silver with additional scoring mixing and mastering by viola. Joseph redman checked our facts. Sophie crane mckibben edited our scripts maryland. Rust offered additional production of special. Thanks to meal carly mcgrory. Heather fain maggie taylor danielle lucar. Maya kanungu nicole. Marano eric sandler royston preserve jacob weisberg and my agent. 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The Princess Bride: Screenplay Reading

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The Princess Bride: Screenplay Reading

"If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. It's free the creation tools to allow you to create an edit. Your podcast right from your phone or your computer anchor will distribute your podcast for you so it can be heard on spotify podcast and many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership and everything you need is to make a podcast in one place so download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot fm to get started And welcome back to the podcast everything you never need to know about movies. Music and theater. I'm your host man and once again we are back with a wonderful Script reading tonight. we've This is the third one. We've done the first two being dr strangelove and casablanca. This will be the next one. And i'm really excited to bring it to you. We'll be doing the princess bride so Stay tuned for that right away and Thank you all so very much for coming so please enjoy prince princess bride. The game is in progress as a sick coughing. Sound is heard. This kid is lying in bed. Coughing pale one sick cookie. He holds a remote in one hand presses. It and the video game moves a little bit. Then he's hit by another spasm of coughing and puts the remote down. His room is monochromatic. Grays and blues mildly high-tech. We were in the present day in. This is a middle class house. Somewhere in the suburbs to kids mother as she enters goes to him fluffs. His pillow kisses him and briefly feels his forehead. She's worried it doesn't show during this. You feeling any better allow. Guess what what your grandfather's here mom. Can't you tell him that i'm sick. You are sick. that's why easier pinch my cheek eat. Maybe he won't. The kids should sir. I'm sure he will look the kids. Grandfather bursts into the room kind of rumpled but the is bright. He has a wrapped package under one arm as he is immediately goes to the kid and pinches his cheek as sickie. The kid gives us mother. And i told you so. Look i think. I'll leave you two pals and she is gone. I brought you a special presence. Open it up a book. That's right when i was your age. Television has got books and this is a special book. It was the book. My father used to read to me. When i was sick and i used to read it to your father and today i'm going to read it to you as a cop any sports than a. Are you kidding. Fence fighting torture. Revenge giants musters chases escapes true miracles. It doesn't sound too bad. I'll try and stay awake. Well thank you very much. It's very nice to be. Your vote of confidence is overwhelming. All right book opens now. He begins to read princess bride by s mortgage stern chapter one. Buttercup was raised on a small farm in the country of florin the story. He's reading about as the monochromatic look of the bedroom is replaced by dazzling color of the english countryside. Her favorite pastimes were riding her horse into a mentoring. The farm boy. That weren't there. His name was west week. she never called him. That isn't that a wonderful beginning. Yeah it's really good. Nothing gave buttercup because much pleasure as ordering westley route. But a couple of standing holding the reins her horse while in the background. Wesley in the stable doorway looks header but a cup is in her late. Teens doesn't care much about clothes and she hates brushing her long hair so she isn't as attractive as she might be but she is still probably the most beautiful woman in the world aren't boys oliver horses. Adam i want to see my face shining in it by morning as you wish. He gazes at her as she walks away as you wish was all he ever since her wesley outside chopping wood but a cup drops two large buckets near him. Armed boy phillies with water. Lease as you wish. She leaves his eyes stay on her. She stops turns. He manages to look away as her stay on him that day. She was amazed to discover that when he was saying as you wish what he meant. Was i love you. Wesley interest with an arm load of firewood and even more amazing was the day she realized she truly loved back pointing to a picture that she could reach herself. Are more me that picture. He gets it. Hands it tour. They standing very close to each other gazing into each other's eyes as you wish now he turns moves outside wesley and buttercup outside his tiny hovel in the red glow of sunset. They are locked in a passionate kiss. Older one is this. Are you trying to trick me. Where's the sports. Is this a kissing book eight. Just wait when does the get good. Gps shared on. Let me read. Wesley had no money for marriage. So packed up his few belongings left the farm to seek his fortune across the seat. Stand nick near the gate to the farm locked in an embrace. It was a very emotional time for trotz. Don't believe this year. I'll never see you again horse. You will something happens to you here this now i will come for you but how can you be sure this is true. Love you think this happens. Every day he smiles at her she smiles too throws her arm so tightly around him they kiss. Then it's. Wesley walks away but a cup watches him go. Leslie didn't reach destination. His ship was attacked by the dread. Pirate roberts who never left captains ally when buttercup got the news that wesley was martyred by pirates. She went into her room and shut the door and for days she neither slept eight. I will never love again. Florin castle day the main courtyard of the florin replete with townspeople livestock and a bustling marketplace. Five years later the main square of ford city was filmed as never before to hear the announcement of the great prince humperdinck. Ride to be prince humperdinck. A man of incredible and bearing standing in his royal robes on a castle balcony three others standing behind him and old couple with crowns the aging king and queen and a dark at been who seemed the princess who seems the prince's matching strength. This is count rugen raises. His hand starts to speak my people a month from now. Our country will have its five hundredth anniversary on that. Sundown i shall marry a lady who was once a commoner like yourselves but perhaps you will not find her common now. Would you like to meet her. And the answering. Yes as boom like summer thunder a giant staircase leading to the crowd and as a figure just begins to become visible the crowd as they see the figure then. This crowd collectively holds its breath. The staircase as the figure appears in the archway. It is buttercup. she is resplendent by people. The princess buttercup she dist descends the stairs and starts to move amongst the people the crowd and they do a very strange thing with no instruction at all. They suddenly go to their knees on a cups emptiness consumed her. Although the law of the land gave humperdinck the right to choose by she do not love despite humperdinck reassurance that she would grow to love him he only joys. You found entertaining ride by lady. Three men standing close together in the path beyond them can be seen the waters of florence channel. The three men are not your everyday commuter types standing in front of is a tiny man with the most angelic face. He is sicilian and his name is vicinity beside him is a spaniard. Erect and taught as a blade of steel. His name is in ingo month roya beside him as a giant. His name is physique. Poor circus performance is a village nearby. Nothing nearby not for miles. Then there'll be no one to hear you scream. He nuts to the giant physical merely reaches over touches a nerve butter cups. Nick and the daughter is scream is all. She manages unconsciousness calms that fast as she starts to fall. A sailboat is moored. It is dusk now shadows along an ego despair near busy himself. Getting the boat ready. The giant carries cup unconscious onboard. Vince eighty rips some tiny pieces of fabric from an army jacket and tucks them along the saddle of butter cups horse. There is about the entire operation a sense of tremendous skill and precision. Does that you're being. It's from the uniform of an army officer. Gilder whose gilder entry across ac- sworn enemy of florina slaps the horse's rump. Once the horse speeches castle. The fabric will make the print suspected guild abducted his love when he finds her body dead on the guilder frontier. His suspicions will be totally confirmed. Never said anything about killing anyone. I've hired you to help me start a war. That the prestigious lighten of work. There's a glorious tradition. I just don't think it's right. Killing an innocent girl wurley on physique owing or the word. think escape your bits. You were hired for your brains. Your hypnotic landmass. I agree with physic- oh that's saw has spoken. What happens to her is not truly your concern. I will kill her and this. Never forget this when you were slow. Slobbering drug credit by miami friendless rheinland helpless hopeless. You want me to send you back to where you were unemployed in greenland softly seaney. He can fuss fuss fuss. I think he likes to scream at us. Probably he means no harm. He's very short on charm loudly. You've got a great gift for rhyme. Yes some of the time. He starts to smile whirling on them as they say love. We hear their voices as the boat. Receipts are there rocks ahead. If there are we all be dead. I mean anybody wanna peanut i. I think that was just a direct in ago is at the helm. Physics stands near the body of the princess. Who eyelids flutter slightly or do they manzini sits motionless. The ways are higher. There are only occasional flashes of moon slanting down between the clouds. We'll reach i. Don why are you doing that. No one's following us that would be inconceivable. Spite what you think you will be caught. And when you are the principal see you all hanged of all the next on this boat highness. The one you should be worrying about as your own stop doing that. We can all relax. It's almost over for months. As i told you it would be absolutely totally an all of the other ways inconceivable. No one knows what we've done. No one in florin could have gotten here so fast. I'd curiosity i ask reason it's only just look behind us and something and suddenly the three world stare back and as they do. It's hard to say. The moon is behind clouds. Now the wind whistles and the waves pound and suddenly. It's all gone. Ominous in ego physique and visine e squinting back trying desperately to see at this moment. They are holding their breath in ego was right. Something is very much there a sailboat. Black with a great billowing sail black. It's a good distance behind them. But it's coming like hell closing the gap explaining with as much logic as he can muster probably local fishermen out for pleasure cruise at night routes yeltsin festive waters buttercup diving into the water to swim away going after her. I don't swim. I only dog paddle. Buttercup still close to the boat. Switches from crawl to a silent breaststroke. The wind dies and as it does something new is heard a not too distant high pitched shrieking sound but a cup stops suddenly treads water. What sound that is sinus. Those other shrieking ills. If you doubt me just wait. They always grow louder when they're about to fee on human flesh. Buttercup treading water still not far from the boat. The shrieking sound getting louder and more terrified by a cup. Stay silent if you swim back now. I promise no one will come to you. I doubt we'll get such an offer from the eels buttercup and she's a gutsy girl to shrieking sound is louder still but she doesn't make a sound behind her something dark and gigantic slithers past. She's scared sure petrified who wouldn't be but she makes no reply and now a shrieking ale has zeroed in on her and now she sees it a short distance away circling starting to close and part of cup is frozen trying not to make a movement of any kind and the eel slithers closer closer and buttercup knows it now. There's nothing she can do. it's all over. it's over and now the ill opens its mouth wide in. It's never made such a noise. And has it's great. Jaws or about to clamp down. It doesn't get eaten by the is at this time you'll doesn't get her. I'm explaining to you because you looked nervous. I wasn't nervous. Maybe i was a little bit concerned. But that's not the same thing because i can stop off one now. You could read a little bit more want. Do you know what that's his highness. Those other shooting eels or pass that grandpa. You read it over eddie. Oh my goodness i did. I'm sorry. Beg your pardon all right all right. Let's see teams in. The water was going after she was frightened. You'll started to charge her then and we're bad from where we were at the last moment. We saw her but a cup. Frozen the shrinking ill. Jaws wide about to clamp down as we a giant pounding. The eel unconscious in one move then. Easily lifting buttercup the boat and physic- buttercup being deposited on the deck. Put her down. Just put her down. I think he's getting closer. He's though concern of ours. San i suppose you think you're brave. Don't you only compared to some the boat at dawn being followed closely by the black sailboat. Which we can see for the first time is being sailed by a man in black and his boat almost seems to be flying right on top of us wonder if he's using the same wind we are using whoever we is. He is to see that clips of insanity in a wild race for the cliffs and the man in black is closing faster than ever but not fast enough. The lead was too great to overcome as ingo sales with great precision straight to the cliffs. How move this thing Other thing we're save only. I think it's strong enough to go on our way. He'll have to seal around for hours. He finds the harbour. There was much activity going. On all of its swift expert economical physic- reaches up along the cliff face grabs a shutting rock reaches behind it. Suddenly there is a thick rope in his hands. He drops back to the boat. Gives the rope of freeing swing and the rope goes all the way to the top hurrying to visit. He's straps a harness to him then lifts buttercup and benzene in the harness. Finally he himself gets in the harness. All three are stab strapped to physique like papooses and he starts to ascend the rope carrying them all along with him as he goes the man in black sailing in towards the cliffs of insanity watching fezzet rises swiftly through the first moments of dawn. Physics group is the only faintly visible far below. This is the first time we've gotten the real vertigo feeling and it's a gasper fezzet climbing on but a cup is almost out of her mind with fear fezzet moving right along however high they are. He's already a third of the way. Done the man in black leaping from ship to the rope starting to climb. He's in possibly far behind but the way he goes you think he didn't know that because he is flying the rope hand over hand like lightning the rope and he's gaining on us consumable faster. I thought i was going faster. You were supposed to be colossus. You were you. Were this great legendary thing and games. I'm carrying three people and he's only got himself. I don't accept excuses. I just want to have to find myself. A new giant bats. All those say they have been seedy please. Did i make it clear that your job is at stake. The man in black less than one hundred feet behind them and gaining visine leaps off take subtle knife and begins to cut the rope which is tied around a great rock well. Indigo helps the princess to her feet and just stands around waiting for someone to tell him to do something nearby or some stone ruins once they might have been afford now the kind of now they kind of resemble stonehenge the man in black seventy five feet from the top now maybe less maybe only fifty and his pace is as dazzling as before and vin. Zini cutting through the last of the rope and the rope slithering across the ground and out of sight towards the channel like some great serpent last going home physique standing with ingo and buttercup by the cliff. Edge is very good arms in fall conceivable. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think. It means my god. He's climbing. who ever is. He's obviously seen us with the princess. Must therefore you harry her. We'll head straight for the gilder frontier. Catch up when he's dead if he falls fine if not the sword i want to duel him left-handed what in a good feel satisfied if i use my right over to quickly. Oh have it your way. You'll be careful. People in masks cannot be trusted. I'm waiting zik. Nods hurries after zini. He watches them depart. Then turns pierce down over the cliffs. He watches a moment then paces shaking his hands los. He practices a few of his fencing skills. He has taught and nervous fellow and he has never been one for waiting around the man in black climbing on he must be six inches closer to the top. Then he was when the last time we saw him. Indigo is watching walking away. Finally he goes back to the cliff's edge darts to talk. It's an instant. The man in black falls but neither gives him that possibility much credence. This is our two heroes meeting. They don't know it yet. But that's what it is a little slow goings. Look i don't mean to be rude but this is not as easy as it looks. So i'd appreciate it if you wouldn't distract me. Thank you. I don't suppose you could speed things out. If you're in such a hurry you could lower a rope or a tree branch or find something useful to do. I could do that in fact. I've got some rope here. But i do think that you will accept my help since i'm only waiting around to kill you. That does put a damper on our relationship. But i promise. I will not kill you until you reach the top. That's very comforting. But i'm afraid you'll just have to wait eight waiting. I can give you my word a spaniard now good. I've known too many spaniards. You don't know any way you'll trust me. Nothing comes to mind. I swear on the soul. My father domenico montanaro you will reach the top alive throw me. The rope dashes to the giant rock. The rope is originally type to the man. In black his grip loosens a moment trying to cling to the side of the cliff in ingo. Now at the small coil of rope hurries back to the edge and hurls it over it hangs close to the man in black he releases. The rocks grabs. The rope hangs helplessly in the space a moment then look straight up at ingo and ingo straining forces his body away from the cliff surgeon rising through the early morning light slowly steadily and as a clifftop at last comes within reach in ingo watching us. Men black cross safety and then looks to ingo. Thank you wait until you're ready again. Thank you. I do not mean to pry and you don't have by any chance have six fingers on your right hand. Do you always begin conversations this way. My father was taunted by a six fingered man. He was a great swordsman. My father and when the sixth man appear request a special sword my father took the job a lady at. He slaved a year before he was done. I have never seen a sequel. Six finger man returned demanded but at one tenth has promised price father refused work. Sinks finger man slashed him through the hawk. I want my father so naturally challenged his murderer to failed extreme. A man did leave me alive with the six figures soared to gave me this. How old were you. I was eleven years old. When i was strong enough. I dedicated my life to the study. Of so. Next time we meet i will not fail. I will go up to the good man and say my name is anita montoya. You killed my father die. He's done nothing but study sword play more of a pursuit than study lately. You see i cannot find him. It's been twenty years now. I'm starting to lose confidence. I just worked for vicinity to pay the bills. There's not a lot of money in revenge. Well i certainly hope you find him some day. You ready then whether i am or not. You've been more than fair cement. His fellow i hate to kill you. You seem a decent fellow. I hate to die. Began and what we are starting now is is one of the two greatest sword fights in the modern movies. The other one happened to run right from the beginning. It looks different because they aren't close to each other. None of the swords crossing guards garbage. Know what we have here is two men to athletes and they look to be too far away to damage each other but each time one makes even the tiniest feint the other counters. There is silence and then they start to circle the six fingered sword fainting year. Fainting there and the two men finished teasing began to dual an earnest. Their swords cross then again again and the sound come so fast. It's almost continual in ego presses on the men in black retreating up a rocky incline. You're using bananas defense against me. I thought it fitting considering the rocky terrain. Naturally you expect me to attack with caputo naturally but i find the bolt cancels out. Oh forero don't you. The man in black is now perched at the edge of the elevated castle. Ruin nowhere to go. He jumps to the sand in eko stares down at him unless the enemy has studied again and now with the grace of an olympian in nika fleiss of the perch somersaults. Clean over the man in black's and and face lands facing his opponent. The two men are almost flying across the rocky terrain. Never losing bounds never coming close to stumbling. The battle rages with incredible finesse. First one then the other gaining the advantage and by now. It's clear that this isn't just two athletes going at it. It's a lot more than that. This to legendary swashbuckler and they're in their prime. It's burt lancaster in the crimson pirate. Battling ever flynn and robin hood and then incredibly. The action begins going even faster than before as we and behind it. Now drawing closer all the time is a deadly edge of the cliffs of insanity an ego fights and the ducks and feigns and slashes and it all works but not for long as gradually the man in black keeps. The advantage keeps forcing in ego back. Closer and closer to death. You wonderful thank you. I've worked hard to become so. I admit you better than i am. Then why are you smiling. Because i know something you don't. And what is that. I am not ended and he throws a six finger soared into his right handed immediately. Tide of the battle turns the men in black stunned doing everything he can to keep you. Go by the cliff's edge but no use slowly. At first he begins to retreat. Now faster in ego is in control in the men in black is desperate and the six fingered sword is all but invincible now as he increases his attack then suddenly switched styles again a rocky staircase leading to a heart shaped plateau and the man in black is retreating. Like mad up the steps and he can't stop in nego nothing can stop in ego and in a frenzy. The men black makes every feint tries every thrust let's go with ali has left but he fails everything fails he tries one or two final desperate moves but are nothing. You're amazing after twenty years. There's something i ought to tell you. Tell me i am not left. handed either. And now he changes hands and at last. The battle is fully joined and to his amazement. He's being forced back down the steps. He tries one style another. But it all comes down to the same thing. The man in black seems to be in control and before an ego knows it. The six fingered sword is knocked clear out of his hand any retreats dives from the stairs to a moss covered bar suspended over the archway. He swings out lands and scrambled to sword and we who watches the nego casually touches a sore back to landing where it sticks in perfectly then. The men in black copies in the ago not copies exactly improves. He dives to the bar swings completely over like a circus performer and dispense with a nine point seven backflip. Who are you know. One of consequence. I must know get used to disappointment. In ego moves like lightning he thrusts forward slashes darts back all in almost a single movement and darting blocking again he thrusts forward faster than before and again slashes but and there is never a move. Anyone makes that he doesn't remember. And this time he blocks the slash slashes out himself with this six fingered sword on it goes back and forth across the rocky terrain in eagles feet. Moving with the grace and the speed of great improvisation improvisational dancer as it's knocked free arching up into the air and catching it again and something terrible is behind his eyes. He has given his all done everything. A man can do tried every style made every maneuver but it wasn't enough and on his face for all to see is the real realization that he in egan one of spain is going to lose the man in black moving in for the end. Now blocking everything muzzling. Everything and a six fingered sword sent flying for an english grip. He stands helplessly only a moment. Then he drops to his knees bows head and shuts his eyes quickly. What is soon as destroy a stained glass window as an artist. Like yourself. However since i can't have following me either please understand. I hold you in the highest respect. He grabbed his scabbard and takes off after the princess. And we could seem abo- give her to me catch up with us quickly. What do i do. Sham finish him your way. Oh good my way. Thank you seen which ways my way up. One of the rocks get behind boulder her and then a few minutes. The man in black will come running around the band the minute. His head is in view with the rock. My way is not very sportsmanlike. He grabs one of the rocks and plods behind the boulder. Mun we the men in black racing up the mountain trail ahead as bend in the trail. He sees it slows. Then he stops listening satisfied by the silence. He starts forward again. And as he rounds the bend. A rock flies into frame shattering on a boulder inches in front of him. He moves into the mountain path. He has picked up another rock and holds it lightly on purpose. Do not have to miss. I believe you so what happens now. We face each other as god intended sportsmanlike. No tricks no weapons skill. Get skill alone. You mean you'll put down your rock. And i'll put down my sword and we'll try to kill each other like civilized people. I could kill you now. Frankly i think the odds are slightly in your favor at hand. Fighting is no fault. Being the biggest and the strongest i don't even exercise flips the rockaway. The man in black is not now and never has been a shrimp. But it's like he wasn't even there physique towers over him so much there's a moment's pause and then the man in black dive said physics chest slants him. Several tremendous blows in the stomach twist his arm severely slips skillfully into a beautifully applied bear hug and in general makes any number of terrific wrestling moves. Physic- just dance. They're kind of taking the scenery. Finally the man in black pushes himself away stares up at the giant look. Are you just fiddling around me or what just want you to feel. You're doing well a hateful. People die embarrassed your quick and to good thing too. What do you wear a mask. You burn by acid or something like that you know. It's just that they're terribly comfortable. I think everyone will be wearing them in. The future physique considers this a moment then attacks and if he moved quickly last time this time he is blinding and as the man in black slips down to avoid the charge physique moves right with him only instead of twisting free inch dumping his feet. This time the man in black jobs for six-pack and in a moment he's riding him his arms have zeke's throat locked across physiques windpipe one in front one behind. The man in black begins to squeeze tighter. Just figured out why you give me so much trouble. Why is that. Do you think. I haven't thought just one person for so long specializing in groups. Battling gangs for local charities. That kind of thing. Why should that make such a difference. Well you see you use different. Who's on your fighting. Have a dozen people than on. You only have to be on again. Physique slams the men in black augusta boulder only this time. His power has diminished physique. Starts to slowly collapse in. There isn't much breath. Press coming the men in black holding scripts. Zeke tries to stand halfway makes it but there is no air back to his knees. He falls host there for a moment and pitches down to well force. The men black increases the pressure physique tries to crawl but there is just no air. No air physique goes to the arson lies still traffic. As men in black turns him over puts near to physiques heart. It beats the man in black stands. I don't envy you the headache. You will have when you awake. But in the meantime rest well dream of large women. And he nimbly scoops up the sword with his foot catches it and as t dashes off along the mountain path prince humperdinck as he his foot into a boot foot print in the sand count run jn mounted watches behind him. Half a dozen armed warriors also mounted a great white horse waits riderless in front. Humperdinck is all over the rocky ground and maybe he isn't the best hunter in the world then again maybe he is because as it begins to put his feet into strange positions we realize what he is doing is miming. The fencers a mighty do ranged all over. It were both masters one. How did it. Loser ran off alone. The winner followed those footprints towards gelder. Shall we track them both. The loser is nothing only. The princess matters. Clearly this was all planned by warriors of guilder. We must be ready for whatever lies ahead. Could this be a trap. I always think everything could be a trap. Which is why i'm still alive. And he off the man in black cresting the peak of the mountain. A knife pointed at his throat. Pull back to reveal. Visine munching on an apple holding the knife to butter cups throat. She is blindfolded a picnic. Spread is laid out a tablecloth. Two goblets and between them a small weather wine container and some cheese and a couple of apples. The picnic is set on a lovely spot. High on the edge of a mountain path within a view all the way back to the c. demand and black comes running around the path sees zini slows. The two men study each other. Then it's down to you and it is down to me if you wish her dead by all means keep moving forward and he pushes his long knife hotter against butter cups unprotected throat. Let me explain nothing to its lane. You're trying to kidnap. I've rightfully stolen. Perhaps an arrangement can be reached. It'll be no arrangement and you're killing her but if there can be no arrangement than we are at an impasse afraid so i can't compete with you physically but yano match for my brain. You're that smart. put it this way. Have you ever heard of plato. Aristotle and socrates yes. It's really in that case. I challenge you to a battle of wits for the princess to the death. I accept good. Then pour the wine as been zini fills the goblets with dark red liquid. The man in black pulls a small packet from his clothing handing to vinnie. Inhale this but do not touch nothing. What you do not smell is called i o kane powder it is odorless tasteless dissolves instantly in liquid in is among the more deadlier poisons known to men visine watches excitingly as the men in black takes goblets turns his back a moment later he turns again faces zany drops the cane packet. It is now empty. The man black rotates the goblets in a little shell game maneuver then puts one glass in front of zini and the other in front of himself. All right where is the poison. The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink and find out who is right in who is dead. It's so simple. All i have to do is to buying from what i know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemies. Now a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fooled reach a what he was getting. I am not a great fool. So i can clearly not choose a wine in front of you but you must know known. I was not a great fool. You counted on it. So i can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. You made your decision then. Remotely kane comes from australia as everyone knows and australia is clearly. People with criminals and criminals are used to having people not trust them as you are not trusted by me so i can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. Truly you have a dizzying intellects but it's so simple. All i have to do is to buy from what i know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemies. Now a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet because he would know that only a great fool would reached the what was given. I'm not a great full. So i can clearly not choose the line in front of you but you must have known. I was not a great fool. You would have counted on it so i can clearly not choose one for me. You've made your decision then not remotely. Because i owe kane. Come from australia. As everyone knows and australia is entirely. Peopled with criminals and criminals are used to having people trust them as you are not trusted by me so i can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. Truly you have a dizzying intellect. Way like a going on. And where was i australia. Yes australia and you must have suspected. I would have known how his origin so i can clearly not choose the one in front of me. You're just stalling now. You'd like to think that wouldn't you. You've beaten my giant which means you're exceptionally strong. So who cannot cannot have put the poison in your own goblet trusting on your own strengths to save you so i can clearly not choose the wine view. But you've also bested my spaniard which means you must have study and in studying do must have learned that man is is mortal so you would have put the poisonous spar is far from yourself as possible. Twenty clearly knocked. Choose the one in front of me. You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work smart as worked you given everything away. I know where the poison is the. Make your choice. I will and i choose me what where. I don't see anything vince. Feeney busy switching the goblets while the men in black head. His head turned well. I could have sworn. I saw something no matter. What's so funny. Talion amid verse. Let's drink me for my glass and you from yours. He picks up his couplet. The men in black picks up the one in front of him and as they both start to drink visine hesitates a moment then allowing the men in black to drink i. He swallows his wine. You guess wrong. You only think guess wrong. That's what's so funny. I switched glasses. When you're back return you fool. You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous ever get involved in a land war in asia but only slightly less well known as this never go against a sicilian when death is on the line laughs and roars and cackles and whoops san is all in always quite cherian. Tilly falls over dead. The man in black stepping past the corpse takes the blindfold bindings off buttercup who notices manzini lying debt. The men in black pulsa to her feet. Who are you. I am no want to be trifled with. That is all you ever need to know. Stink all that time. It was new york that was poisoned. They were both poisons. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to kane powder and with that he takes off dragging her behind him a mountain path. It's where physique fought the man in black camera pulls back to reveal the prince kneeling inspecting every grain of misplaced. Sent the others weight behind him. Someone has beaten giant. There will be great suffering in guilder if she dies he leaps onto his horse and they charge off. The man in black comes running into view still dragging buttercup who sometimes stumbles but he keeps forcing her long finely when she is close to exhaustion he lets go of her. Catch your breath. You'll release me. Whatever you ask for ransom you'll get it. I promise you. What is that worth the promise of a woman. You're very funny highness. I was giving you a chance no matter where you take me is no greater. Hunter than prince humperdinck could track a falcon on cloudy day. He can find you. You think your dearest love will save you. I never said he was my dearest love and yes he will see me that i know you admit me. You do not love your fiancee. Knows i do not love him are not capable of love is what you mean. I have loved more deeply. The killer like yourself could ever dream and the men in black cocks pacifist. Buttercup flinches but does not retreat. That was a warning highness. The next time my hand flies on. Its own for where i come from. There are penalties when a woman lies camera pulls back to reveal the prince kneeling by the body as the others right up. The prince grabs the empty poison. Packet henze to rugen. After i sniff himself. I okay. I bet my life on it. And there are the princesses footprints. She is alive or was an hour ago. She is otherwise. When i find i shall be very put out. And he vaults onto his horse and they all charge off. Buttercup being spun into camera view falling heavily as the men in black releases. Her we are at the edge of almost a sheer ravine to drop his sharp and severe below the ravine floors flat. But getting there would not be half the fun. Rest are your cruelty reveals everything. You're the dread pirate roberts admitted with pride. What can i do for you. You can die slowly cut into a thousand pieces harley complimentary your highness wide venom on me you kill my love. It's possible. I kill a lot of people. Who is this love of yours and other prince like this one. Ugly rich and scabby farm boy or or a perfect is like see after a storm on high seas. Your ship attacked the dread pirate. Roberts never takes prisoners. I can't afford to make exceptions. Once word leaks out at the pirate has gone soft. People begin to disobey you and then it's nothing but work work work all the time you mock. My pain life is pain highness. Anyone who says differently a selling something. I remember this farm boy of yours. I think this would be what five years ago does it bother you to hear nothing. New say he died. Well that should please you know. Bribe attempts or blubbering. He simply said please please. I need to live. It was the please that caught my memory. I asked him what was so important for him. True love he replied and then he spoke of a girl of surpassing beauty and faithfulness. I can only assume he meant to you. You should bless me for destroying him before he found out what you really are. And what am. I faced fullness. He talked of madam your enduring faithfulness. Now tell me truly when you found out he was gone. Did you get engaged to your prince that same hour or did you wait a whole week. Out of respect for the dead. You must me once. never do it again. I died that day. The man in black is about to reply as they stand there on the edge of the sheer ravine but then something catches his attention and as he stares. Is it briefly. The dust cloud caused by humperdinck. Horses is rising up into the sky but a cup and while his attention is on the dust cloud raising hot high. She pushes him with all the strange she has. You can die too for all. I care the men in black teetering on the ravine's edge for a moment then begins to fall down. Goes the men in black down down rolling spinning crashing always down towards the flat rock floor of the ravine. There is a long pause. She stands there alone as far from the world as far from below as the words come to her drifting on the wind. as you. sweet. Sweet what have i done. And without a second thought or consideration of the dangers she starts into the ravine a moment later. She is to following in spinning and twisting crashing and torn cartwheeling down towards what is left of her beloved prince humperdinck and the others reining in at the spot where buttercup promise ransom in exchange for her freedom. The print shakes his head disappeared. He must have seen us closing in which might account for his panicking error. Unless i'm wrong. And i am never wrong. They are headed into the fire swamp. Two bodies life you feet apart not moving. It is of course party cup and wesley they might be corpses after a time. Where slowly forces his body into motion and as he does. Buttercup roost and touring as wesley. Carl's slowly towards her. Can you move it all. Look you're my you want. I can fly. I told you. I would always come for you. Why didn't you wait for me. Well you were dead. Death cannot stop true. Love all it can do is delay it for a while will never again. There will never be a need and now they begin to kiss. It's a tender kiss tender and loving and gentle and no no we use what is it. What's the matter kissing again. We have to hear the kissing part. Someday you may not mind so much higher swamp that sounded good. Oh you're sick so now where we're we're here. Yeah yeah yeah okay. Wesleyan buttercup re still all the ravine floor racing along the ravine floor. Wesley glances up perched on top of the cliff. Looking down at wesleyan buttercup. Your pig fiance is too late. A few more steps and we'll be safe in the fire swamp will never survive nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever house and say race off leaving humperdinck and his men stranded defeated the fire swamp. And it really doesn't look any worse than any other moist sulphurous in ferndale haarer. You may run across great trees block the sun. Buttercup is clearly panicked and maybe wesley is too but he moved gently. Long sword hint. It's not that bad. I'm not saying. I'd like to build a summer home here. But the trees are actually quite lovely. The giant trees thick and black green look ominous as hell and they shield all but interment but intermittent stripe son a giant spurt of flame leaps up preceded by a slight popping sound and this particular spurt of flames. Mrs went westley but buttercup is suddenly on fire. At least the lower half or her is and wesleyan stoodley forcing buttercup to sit gathering her flaming hem in his hands doing his best to suffocate. The fire this isn't all that easy and it's causing him a bit grief but he does his best to sounders jaunty s before. Well now. That was an adventure. Singed a bit were you you. He was and shakes his head. No he pulls her to her feet. Wesley grabbing buttercup pulsar aside to safety as another great bun aflame suddenly shoots up. Well one thing. I will say the fire swamp certainly does keep you on your toes. Cup is frozen with fear. He takes her hand gently leads her forward as we. The two of them moving slowly along through a particularly dangerous part of the fire swamp. It's later now. The sun slants down at a slightly different angle. This will all soon be happy memory because of robert's ship revenge is anchored at the far end. And i as you know am roberts. A power is not possible since he's been marauding twenty years and you only looked me five years ago. I myself am often surprised. At life's little quirks. Air is in a popping sound than a huge spurt of flame. Wesley picks simply picks up buttercup as they walk along moves her in and out of danger put her back down. Goes right on talking without missing a beat. You see what i told you before about saying please was true. It intrigued roberts as did my descriptions of your beauty. They look like they could be flesh-eating wirelessly takes his sword sliced the path for them to follow the vines grown. Is they fall. He's been chatting away the entire time. Finally roberts decided something. he said. All right wesley. I've never had a valet. You can try it for tonight. Almost likely kill you in the morning three years. He said that good night. Good night. Wesley work sleep. Well most likely kill you in the morning. It was a time for me. I was learning to fence to fight anything. Anyone would teach me in robertson. I eventually became friends and then it happened gone. Wesley picked her up carrying her across some swampy water. That is bridged by a narrow rickety tree branch. we'll roberts had grown so rich. He wanted to retire so he took me to his cabin and told me his secret. I am not the dread pirate roberts. He said my name is ryan. I inherited the ship from the previous dread. Pirate roberts just you will inherit it from me. The man i inherited for was not the real dread pirate roberts. Either his name was cumberland. The real roberts has been retired fifteen years living like a king and patagonia then he explained. The name was an important thing for inspiring necessary. Fear you see. No one would surrender to the dread pirate wesley. Two of them have by now. Crushed the pond so we sailed ashore took on an entirely new crew and he stayed aboard for a while. As i meet all the time calling me roberts once the crew believed he left the ship. And i've been robertson for since except now that we're together i shall retire and hand the name over to someone else. Is everything cleared you. Buttercup perplexed is about to reply but the ground she stepson gives way. It's lightning sand great patch of it and it has her a cloud of powder rises as she sinks into the stuff. Crying wesley's name. But then she has gone in st. See wesley worrying slashing at a u shaped fine hacks it and half. It's still connected to the tree. Then he grabs. It drops his sword and clutching the other end of the vine. He dives into the lightning sand. And there is another cloud of white powder powder but it settles quickly now. Nothing can be seen nothing at all. Just the lightning sand lovely and lethal hold on the lightning sand. Then and painting panting. Sound is are now. The panting sound is certainly very loud. And then a giant r. o. u. s. darts into view the are s a rodent of unusual size is probably no more than eighty pounds of bone and powder. It sniffs around a bit and then as quickly as it's come. It goes to lightning sent as wesley. Lungs across lens across long past the bursting-point explodes out. He has butter crop across his shoulders. And as he pulls to the edge of the lightning senate using the vine her face is caked with the white powder. It is in her eyes her ears her hair her mouth. She is still probably beautiful. But you have to look awfully hard to see it. As wesley continues to pull them out to safely safety the are. Ou s high above them. It watches buttercup placed against tree. Wesley is cleaning the lightning sand from her face. He hesitates glances around in the arrow. Us on a much lower branch. Now it stares down at wesley. Wesley stairs back up at the beast. Buttercup is oblivious. Her eyes flutter he contends continues to work on her. As never succeed here. No no you have already succeeded now. There are two hour. us's they have climbed into a nearby tree staring. hungrily down. wesley. Picking her up. He put an arm around her starts to walk with her as he encouragingly goes on talking. I mean what are the three terrors of the fire swamp. One the flames spurts no problem. There's pumping san preceding each. We can avoid that to the lightning sand but you were clever enough to discover what that looks like so in the future. We can avoid that to a sweet. The ro rodents of unusual sisal. I don't think they exist. And he says that an hour. Us comes flying him from offscreen but a cup screaming and wesley pinned under the attacking. Our us trying to fend it off. Can't the thing's teeth sink. Deep into his arm he howls. Wesley drives a fist into the beast. Face rolling it off. He reaches for his sword just a few feet away but the arrow. Us is back atop of him. It's a fierce battle. And just when we think westley can't possibly win. He flips the ugly rodent clear. Wesley scrambles for sword the us be stampedes on changing. Its targets heading right for buttercup. And she's scared to death end. What's the abandoned soared reaching for the rodent grabbing on the tail wrestling with it but a cup grabs a small branch and using it as a club beats the ups thing doing pretty well but the beasts manages to snag her hem with its razor teeth and she is bowl to the ground and wesley jumping onto. Its back and the arrow. Us it's all over him now. Sinking needle teeth into wesley shoulder. With death close at hand as a popping sound starts he does he tries desperate move rose into the sound. A flame spurt. Shooting highway and wesley with the are or us pin arm and as beast burst into flame it. Let's go in wrestling. Wesley rolls safely. Free grabs a sword and exhaustedly stabs. The us which is trying to put itself up the arrow us collapses dead. Wesley stands motionless exhausted. The danger has passed away. That was that so terrible. And as somewhere they summon strength pick up their pace and as they reach the edge of the fire swamp humperdinck on his horse rugen beside them. Three warriors armed and ready are mounted information behind. Buttercup and. Wesley are at the edge of the fire swamp about to leave it. They stop but a cup. Looks beyond exhaustion wesley. It looks worse. Surrender it's dusk behind humperdinck of the waters of the bay. You mean you wish to resume to me very well. I accept i give you full marks for bravery don't make yourself a fool But how will you capture us. We know the secrets of the fire swamp. We can live there quite happily for some time. So whenever you feel like dying free to visit i tell you once again surrender. It will not happen for the last time surrender. I smeltzer hurt him. What was that. What was that if we surrender. And i return with you. Will you promise not to hurt this man. May i live a thousand years never hunt. He is a sailor on the pirate ship. Revenge promised return to shift our swimwear. It will be done other cup and wesley staring deep into each other's eyes once we're out of sight take him back to florin and throw him in the pit of despair. I swear it will be done. I thought you were dead once and it almost destroyed me could not bear it if you died again when i could save you. Utter cup tries to speak again. Can't and is swooped off her feet and unter her dick's horse and off. They go west sleep starting after her. Run getting watches as its warriors. Bring wesley to him. The count has a heavy sword and he holds it in his hand. Comesa must get you to your ship. We are men of action lies. Do not become us. Well-spoken sir what is it. You have six fingers on your right hand. Someone was looking for you. Count rugen clubs wesley. Hard across the skull. Wesley starts to fall. The screen goes black tank and chill underground and windowless licked by flickering frightening westley lies in the center of the cage chained and helpless a bloodless looking out bino dead pale is silently. Enters the pit carrying a tray of food and medication. He puts it down our am. I pit of despair. Don't even think it don't even think about trying to escape. The chains are far too thick and don't dream of being rescued either. The only way in his secret and only the prince accounting. I know how to get in and out. Then i'm here till i die till they kill you. Yeah then why bother curing me. The princeton the count always insist on everyone being healthy before they're broken so it's to be torture. I cope with torture. You don't believe me you survive the fire swamp. You must be very brave. But nobody was stands. Machine studies wesley who faces almost sad. Buttercup and her face is sad. pallid perhaps ill. She wanders down to carter in floor and castle if she moved on seeing past an intersecting corder prince humperdinck and count bruijn watching her. She's been like that ever since the fire swamp. It's my father's failing health that's upsetting. Her close has say move on. The king died the that night and before the following dawn but a cup in hunting or married and is that we thought it was packed. Before we didn't know how much more we could fit in this courtyard humber dick route gin and the queen stand high on the balcony and at noon. She met her subjects again this time as she used to soclean my father's final words were old it. The grandpa and the scene freezes you. read that wrong. She doesn't marry humperdinck. she marries wesley. I'm sure of it. After all the western for her if she does not marry him if blimpy fair well who says life in your where is that life isn't always fair telling you you're messing up a story. Now get a break. Do you want me to go on with this us. All right then. No more interruptions at noon. She met her subjects again. This time as the queen. My father's final words for love her as i loved her. And there will be joy. I present to you your queen. Buttercup someone is bullying the bullying gets louder as an ancient woman approaches. Buttercup through the crowd booing every step of the way i do you do this because you had loving your hands guy top. They have killed wesley. If i hadn't done it you will true. Love lives and you marry another true. Love saved her in the fire swamp and she treated it like garbage. And that's what she. As the queen of refuge nobel down to balance. You won't out to a bow to the queen of slime the queen of fills the queen of future sense rubbish filth slime advances on buttercup. Now who is more and more panicked. Louder and louder and louder. She sweets fit top in at buttercup reaching out her old hands towards cups throat. And buttercup is frightened now is dorothy was when the witch went after her and the wizard of oz and suddenly buttercup coming out of her nightmare alone in her castle better as she frantically grabs of road and starts to run. It was ten days till the the kings still lived cups. Nightmares were growing steadily worse fee. Didn't i tell you. She never married that rotten humperdinck. Yes you're very smart. Shot up it comes to this. I loved wesley. I always have. I know now. I always will you tell me i must marry you. In ten days please believe will be dead by morning. I could never cause you grief. Consider our wedding off your return wesley to his ship. Yes then we will simply alert him beloved. Are you certain he still wants you after all it was you who did the leaving in the fire swamp not to mention that pirates are not known to be men of their words. I'm for me. I suggested deal you right for copies of a letter. i'll send my four fastest ships one in each direction. The dread pirate roberts is always close to floor in this time of year will run up the white flag and delivered your message. If wesley want you bless you both if not please consider me as an alternative to suicide are. We agreed and she knots. The trees were unusual in one respect. All of them are extraordinarily heavily knotted hundred dick and walking into a grove of trees. You'll princess is really a winning creature. Trifle simple perhaps. Repeal appeal is undeniable. No i know the people are quite taken with her. It's odd but when. I hired visine to have murdered on our engagement day. I thought that was clever. But it's going to be so much more moving. When i strangle her on our wedding night. Once guilder is blamed the nation will be truly outraged will demand we go to war now. Where is that secret. Note he's impossible to find. Are you coming down. The pitch west lease got his strength. Back i'm starting him on the machine tonight around. You know how much. I love watching you work. But i've got my country's five hundredth anniversary to plan my wedding to arrange my wife to motor and there's blame for it. I'm swamped it's some rest. You haven't in show health. You haven't got anything routine smiles and hurries down. The stairs says the tree slides back perfectly into place. We can't tell quite what it is or what it does. But somehow it is unsettling count rugen dragging wellesley alongside. The thing levers and wheels and wires you name it. It's there beautiful isn't it. It took me a lifetime to invent it. I'm show you've discovered my deep and abiding interest in pain at present time writing the definitive welcome subject. So i want you to be totally honest with me. On how the machine makes you feel a dial with numbers ranging from a low of one to a high of fifty. Regine goes to it this being office. I'll use the lowest setting and charles the dial two one. He has suction cups on his head now and on his temple on his heart his hands and feet. He says nothing keeps control of himself. Count rajin fiddling with the machine a moment more and then he opens the floodgate water pours down the chute turning the wheel which in turn really gets the machine going wesley and he's lying on the table and he's only flesh in the chains or metal and thick but such as his desperation. It almost seems that he might break them. A terrible song comes from his throat and incessant gasping it keeps on coming in as we finally he switches off. The machine picks up a large notebook and pen sits in a chair. The noise of the machine subsides rajin opens a book to a blank. Page as you know. The concept of the suction pump is centuries old. Well really that's all this is except that instead of sucking water. I'm sucking life. I've just sucked one year of life away. I might one day go as high as five. That i really don't know what that would do to you. So let's just start with what we have. What did this do to you. Sally and remember this is full posterity. So please be honest. How do you feel. And now as last wesley and anger so deepen dizzying helpless. He cries count. What the tears. Then he starts to write interesting in his quarters. Swamped pows of paper strewn all over now. Yellen a pale shifty. Quick guide man appears in the doorway. Yellen sira as chief enforcer of florin. I trust you with this secret killers from our are infiltrating thieves forest and plan to murder my bride on our wedding night. My spy network has heard. No such news anywhere from wesley. The princeton yellen turn to her in the doorway. Too soon my angel station he will come for me. Of course she will not be murdered on the day of the wedding. I want the thieves forest emptied in every inhabitant arrested. Many of the the's resist regular forces will be aggression former brute squad then i want to use force emptied before i wed. Eight won't be easy sire. Trial ruling the world sometime. A lot of hollering is going on the themes. Are being rounded. Up by the brute squad. A large group of large men yellen stands on a wagon in the midst of all scuffling. The day of the wedding arrived. The brute squad had their hands full carrying out huntings orders. Is everybody out almost. There's a spaniard. Giving us some trouble well you give him some trouble move and his wagon starts and as it does in egos drunk as a skunk sprawled in front of a hubble a bottle of brandy in one hand the six fingered sword in the other looks dreadful unshaven puffy eyed gaunt but the way he brandishes the great sword in front of him would give anyone cause for worry. I waiting for you told me. Go back to the beginnings i have. This is where i am this. I'll stay. I will not be moved. I do not budge. Keep your ho- their her but the prince gave orders did receding. When the job went wrong. You went back to the beginning and this is where we got the job. So it's the beginning. And i'm staying till vince. Genie comes yo bro. Come here. I am waiting for you. Surely are amini. Lets you true. See assistant brewed is just about to club in egos brains. Oh physical. it's fly with a stupendous punch. The assistant brute takes full force of the blow right in the chops. It's like he was shot from candidacy. Koreans backwards out of sight across the street. There is a pause gonna crunching sound as he clearly has come in contact with something hard and immobile. You don't look so good in smells so good either. Not i feel fine. Yeah physique putting down and that's winning gold faints and as he does physique in. India were reunited Nursed his neabry. It'd friend back to health. Who told him you know. But cd's debt existence account newton the six fingered man considering needles lifelong search. He he handled. The news surprised me well and he faints again into his stew. To large tops. One filled with steam water and the other was wonder clearly of an icy nature without a word. Physics stuff's in egos head into the icy water. Then after a reasonable amount of time pulls him out ducks him into the steaming stuff and after a short amount of time after that puts him back in the cold again then back in the hot says a great gear and reviving an ego. That's about where is this rugen. So i may kill him with the prince in the castle but the castles guarded by thirty men. Many could you handle. I don't take more than tatton. Leaves twenty from me and my best. I could never defeat that many anything to plan. I have no gift for strategy basinas dead. No seaney i need the man in black what he must you strength your greatness. He would steal. He must have been seaney and a man who can do that can plan my castle's onslaught any day. Let's go where to find the men in black obviously but you don't know where he is. Don't bother me with trifles after twenty years at last. My father sobhi peace. We'll be denied. Tempered inks chambers strewn with maps etc yellen enters and kneels rise and report. Fiefs force is emptied thirty one. God the castle gate doublet. My princess must be safe. The case has been one key. And i carry that. He shows the key dangling from a chain around his neck just at that moment but a cup enters. My dulcet darling. Tonight we marry tomorrow morning. Your men will escort to florin channel. Where every ship in my armada waits to accompany us on our honeymoon every ship but your four fastest. You mean every ship but the four you sent yes yes of course naturally not those for your home. Majesty's you never sent the ships bother lying. Doesn't matter wesley will come for me anyway. Your acidity girl yes. I am silly girl for not having seen sooner that you are nothing but a coward with a heart full of fear. I would not say such things. If i were you i not. You can't hurt me. Leslie and i are joined by the bonds of love and you cannot track that not with a bloodhounds and you cannot break it. Not with a thousand swords and when i say you're a coward that is only because you are the slimest weekly average croly earth. I would not say such things. If i were you wesley in the machine. But it's not on count. Rogin is added more notes to his book. He looks up. The prince suddenly comes down the steps. Raging you truly love each other and so you might have been truly happy. Not one couple and sentry. Has that chance no matter what the storybook say and so i think no man in a century will suffer as greatly as you will and with that. He world's turns on the machine and grabs the lever and not to fifty. But it's too late as we princ- prince number decks shoving all the lever all the way up wesley. Space in there has never been such pain. The pain grows and grows and with it. Now something else has started the death scream as a death scream starts to rise outside the pit of despair in the sound moves along louder and louder and yellen is sixty brutes and they bear it and a few of the brutes turned to each other and fair as scream built but a cup in her room. She hears the sound doesn't know what it is but her arms and voluntarily go around her body to try to control the trembling and the scream still bills and there are many people. it is day of the country's five hundred anniversary but all the people stop as a sound hits them. A few children pale both toward their parents and in ego and try to make their way through the jammed marketplace which suddenly quiets esa fading sound comes through. This isn't do you hear that is the sound of ultimate suffering iheart made. That sound was rugen slaughtered. My father the men in black makes it now. The men in black is true. Is marrying another tonight. So who else could be caused for ultimate suffering. Excuse me it's please. Everybody move and the crowd begins to fall away and he inigo start to track the fading sound. Thank you a grove of trees near the pit of despair. The albino appears wheeling a barrow in ego sword pushes at his chest. Is the man in black. Dale bino shakes. his head. Says nothing you can get there from this grove. Yes visit jog. His memory and fezzet crunches the vinyl on top of the head as if he had a hammer and was driving in an email. They all by drops without a sound. Oh sorry go. I mean to jog him so hard and you go he kneels. The sword held tight between his hands is closed. He faces the grove of trees. Start to talk his voice. Low and strange father failed you for twenty years. Misra can add somewhere somewhere close by this man can help us. I cannot find him alone. I need you. I need you to guide my sword and now he rises is still closed guide. My saw inigo walking blind through the grove of trees. He moves to the secret not hesitates then moves past it. Danny nico stops. For a long moment he stands frozen. Suddenly he whirls is still closed. And the sword strikes home dead center into the notch and nothing. He has failed in utter despair. He collapses again against a tree against not in the tree against lee not in the tree. It slides away revealing the staircase physique and inigo look at each other. Then start down. Wesley dead by the machine physically over him listening for a heartbeat and he looks at any ego shakes his head. He's dead just is not fair. Grandpa grandpa wait. Wait what does it mean. He's dead. I he didn't mean wesley is only faking rate to read this or not. Who gets harper dick. I don't understand who kills prince humperdinck at the end. Somebody's not to do it. Is it inigo who nobody. Nobody kills him he leads. You mean he wins. Jesus grandpa what do you read me. This thing for you know you've been very sick. You're taking this story very seriously. I think we'd better stop now. No i'm okay. i'm okay sit down right okay. All right pal. Let's see where were we. Oh yes in the pit of despair. We toilets have never taken defeat easily. Come on bring the body. The body have you any money i have a little. I just hope it's enough to buy a miracle. That's all as physics. Takes a corpse follows. Go up the stairs. Hubble dusk inigo fezzet. Wesley approached the door. They knock from inside the hovel. A little man's voice is heard if mellberg's two thousand year old man was really old. It resembled this guy. What you the miracle. Max who worked for the king all those years the king sticking sunfire me and thank you so much for bringing up such a painful subject while you're at it. Why don't you just. Gimme a nice paper. Cut porcelain lemon juice on. It were closed. Beat it or call the brute squad. I'm on the squad. You are on the brute squad. We need a miracle. It's very important. Look i'm retired. And besides why would you want someone. The king's son stinking son fired. I might kill whoever you wanted to meet. Miracle he's already dead. We'll take a look. Bring them in unlocks the door and lets them in an echo and fancy. Hurrying inside. Fezzet carries wesley. Who is just starting to stiffen up a little. He lays wesley down across the bench by the fireplace. Picks wesley arm up and let it drop limp obscene wes. He studies westley a moment. Checking here checking there. Sir sir we are in a terrible rush. Don't rush me. Sonny you russia miracle man you gotta rotten miracle you got money sixty five each. I never worked for so little except once and that was a very noble cause. This is no vote sir. His wife has crippled. Children are on the brink of starvation. And you are a rotten liar. He'd him to help me avenge. My father met at these twenty years. If i start was better. Where's that bellows probably owes you money. I'll ask him steady can talk. Look who knows so much. Well it just so happens that your friend here is only mostly dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead please opened his mouth in ego. Does max inserts the bellows in wesley mouth and starts to pump now mostly slightly alive now all dead well with all dead. There's usually only one thing you can do. What's that goes. There is closed. Look for loose change. Hey hello and they're right. what's so important. What what are you go on here. That's worth living for. He pressed despite the on westlife. Check chest true. Oh you cannot ask for more noble austin that sunny true love is the greatest thing in the world except for nice. Mit a mutton lettuce tomato sandwich. Where the mutton is nice. And lean and the tomatoes ripe. They're so perky a love that but that's not what he said he distinctly said to blade and we all know to blame means to bluff. So you're probably playing cards and cheating valerie. An ancient fury storms out of a back room toward get back which. I'm not a witch. I'm your wife but after what you to set on not trade want to be that anymore you never had it so good true love. He said true love next. My god don't say another word valerie. He's afraid ever since prince humperdinck. Fight him his confidence. Shouted that name. You promised you would never see that name. What humperdinck humbling humperdinck humperdinck. Hundred listening life expiring. You have the decency to say why you won't help. Nobody's hearing nothing humperdinck happening. How do you think this is true. Love if you heal him. He will stop predicts wedding albany company inc shut up. Wait wait. I make him better. Humperdinck suffers humiliations galore. That isn't noble cause sixty five. I'm on the job. Pull back to reveal. Max and valerie exhausted looking at the lump as valerie. Cooking utensil in hand covers the thing with what looks like chocolate in ego emphatic stares at the thing too but more dubiously. That's a miracle pill the chocolate coating it go down easier but you have to wait fifteen minutes for full potency and you shouldn't go swimming after at least what now. Yeah in our a good hour. Yeah echo accepts. Appel pill is Takes wesley who is stiff as a board. Now thank you for everything. Okay bye bye boys fun. Storm the castle. Think it'll work not take a miracle by at has wave trying to look happy. We see physique in ego and wesley. On top of the outer wall of the castle they looked down to the front gate of the castle. The sixty brutes are visible. Physic- is thunderstruck by. How many birds. There are upset. He turns to ego. Who was concentrating unsuccessfully trying to prop wellesley up against the wall. It'll go there's more than thirty. What's the difference. We got him me ear. We'll have to force feed them has been fifteen minutes. Can't wait the wedding's in half an hour we must strike in in hustle and bustle beforehand during this using all his strength has managed to get wesley into the right angled sitting position while an ego brings out the miracle pill to open his mouth. How long do we have to wait before we know the miracle works because this is a good mind. I'll be both the part. I'll take you both together. Just not very long. Why won't my arms move. You've been mostly dead all day. Miracle max make a pill to bring you back are you. Are we enemies. Why am i on this wall. Where's buttercup let me explain. No too much. Let me sum up. But a couple marrying humperdinck in less than half an hour so all we have to do is get in. Break up the wedding steal the princess. Make our escape after. I kill count rugen. That doesn't leave much time for dilly-dallying just wiggle your finger. Us wonderful always been a quick healer. What are our liabilities. There is but one working castle gate and is guarded by sixty men and our assets. Your brains as strength my steel. That's it impossible. If i had a month to plan maybe i could come up with something but this you just shook your head. That doesn't make you happy. My brains his steel and your strength against sixty men and you think a little head. Jiggle us to make me happy. I mean if we only had a wheelbarrow that would be something that we're barreled at the abidin had over. They all by now. I think well. Why didn't you list that among our assets in the first place what i wouldn't give for a holocaust cloak. There we can help you will does do miracle max is fish so nice sinica. Keep it all right. All right helped me up now. I'll need a sword eventually why you can't even live one true but that's hardly common knowledge. Is it thank you now. There may be problems. Once we're inside. I'll see have we find the cowb- once i do. How do i find you again. Once i once i find you again. How do we escape. Don't pester him he set a hard day right right. Sorry a move along the wall in silence for a time. Then these words come to us on the way. And i go what i hope we win but a cup in her bridal gown and she's incredible it's not just her beauty. There's a twin quality about her now the prince fastening pearl necklace around her. You don't see excited. My little muffin rides off an hour. I'm told i did not marry night but a cup. And she couldn't seem more serene. My westley will seek me. Herb wesley looking down on the gate. Within ego and physique the main gate of the castle and yellen standing there flanked by sixty brutes wesleyan an ego and vesic looking out at the enemy. This isn't an ego infested hands. Wesley can't even do that. But after a bit of rocking back and forth he manages to get enough momentum to catapult is. I'm over in onto his friends. And absolutely gem like little chapel the most intelligent looking in most impressive appearing clergymen imaginable. Buttercup and humperdinck kneel before the clergyman behind them sit the mumbling old king and queen standing in the back is count rugen. The four guards are in position flanking the chapel door a maui. Judge malik is what brings us together today marriage. The what's that dream within a dream grown man. Stand your ground. The brutes and yellen by the gate for it is indeed. They who are making the commotion frightened pointing. Stand your ground and it is a bit unnerving. A giant seems to be floating towards him out of the darkness. A giant and a strange cloak and with the voice would crumble walls. I am the dread pirate roberts. They're all being survivors and he seems to be floating because he's standing in the wheelbarrow as an ego be hidden behind him. Busts a gut by pushing it and supporting westley now here. I am here but soon you will not be here. Yellen keeping bruton position or trying to shouting orders instructions and yet the brutes hold now in ego struggles bravely under their combined weight. Light him the brutes as giant bursts suddenly happily into flames the drab power roberts takes no survivors all your worst nightmares about comes to chapel with impressive clergyman plows on when choose will follow you. Thought print temperature turning quickly giving a shop nar to count rugen. Who immediately takes off out of the chapel with the four guards. As we see physique flaming and scary is how the dread pirate roberts is here foyer so yellen as suddenly as the brutes just scream and take off in the wild panic. Stay i stay. Well you more inside the chapel. So you'll want to the end. Have you the way as hundred ticker whips out. Wake a ring. This screams very loud outside. Your comes my westley now. Physic- as he pulls off the holocaust cloak the protocols and fenwick russia's floyd grabbing the protocols which is indeed closing quickly fezzet grabs the gate and swings the tonnage back upwards. Yellen just watches fair. The chapel is humperdinck shoves the ring on butter cups finger. Your westley is dead. Killed him myself. And why is there behind your eyes prince temper dick and she's right. It's their yellen pressed against the main gate. Wesley ego infested visit close in. Give us the geico. He be physic- terrorism offs physics steps toward him. Oh you mean the ski. He whips it out. Hands it to physic- and do you win. Says and wife say man and wife man and escort the bride of the honeymoon suite. I'll be there shortly and as he dashes off but a cup standing there dazed. You didn't come count. Rugen and his four warriors racing through the castle and as they reach a complex intersection of several quarters. Rogin stops incredulous as we see wesley in ego and moving toward them actually physically dragging wesley who is in turn dragging yellen sword like a stiff dog's leash was lee simply hasn't the strength to raise it count rugen as the confrontation is about to start. He'll the dock one and the giant sleeve third for for questioning and as is warriors attack in goes wild and maybe the warriors good. Maybe they're even better than that but they never get a chance to show it because this is something now. This is an ego gone mad and six finger sword has never flash faster and the fourth warriors is dead before the first one is even hit the floor. There's a pause then. My name is nicole montoya. You killed my father bad guy. Count rugen for a moment. He just stands there sword in hand then he doesn't most unexpected thing he turns and runs the hell away any go momentarily surprise then taking off after leaving wesley and fezzet to exchange curious looks rogin running through the half open heavy wooden door shutting it and locking it just as an ego throws himself against it. He tries again no kind of chance. I knew with wesley who is still unable to walk under his own power. He calls back. I can't leave him alone any go desperately pounding at the heavy door. He's getting away please. I'll be right back any props. Wesley began solarge suit of armor and takes off towards the intersection. Where in he goes voice came from inigo still hammering the door. Physic- approaches justice for him to stop and with one mighty swipe of his mighty hand to door crumbles. Thank you has nego- go flies through his physics heads back to wesley. Buttercup walking with the king and queen the queen. More sprightly is several paces ahead. Strange wedding yes. A very strange wedding. Come along but a cup gently stops the king and places a kiss on his forehead. He is very surprised and pleased that for. You've always been so kind to me. And i won't be seeing you again since i'm killing myself once reached the hainan sweet. Won't that be nice. She just made those words counteracting and he is running dashing through korda's as a glances back in ego behind him. Coming like a streak. End the the intersection with the large suit of armor and facet gaping staring at all those choices trying to piece together the puzzle of the missing wesley. Count rogin flashing out of one room. Downer staircase picking up his pace. He pulls out a deadly looking dagger with sharp point in triangular shaped blade and spirits on end in ego closing the gap closer and closer. And he's down the stairs and he's heading into the dining hall and count rugen throwing the dagger in ego trying like hell to get out of the way but no and it's six tape into his stomach and he hurls back helplessly against the wall of the room. His eyes glazed blood coming from his mom wound. The room is going white on him. Sorry father i tried. I tried count rugen looking across room in any go. He stares at an egos face and then he touches his own cheeks as memories. Come you must be that. Little spanish bradtha total lesson to older years ago. It simply incredible. Have you been chasing me a whole life only to fail now. I think that's the worst thing i ever heard. How marvelous in sinks but a cup shutting the door of the honeymoon suite crossing quietly to the far wall where she sits at a table open sexual box and takes out a very deadly looking dagger. She seems very much at peace as she touches the knife to her bosom. There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world would be a pity to damage yours. And buttercup world says wesley lying on the bed. Yellen sward is beside him. His voice sounds just fine but he does not move. Buttercup leaps to the bed covering him with kisses. Wesley is helpless. Westley darling leslie. Why won't you hold me gently at a time like this. That's all you can think to say gently gently and she lets go thumping is head against the headboard and count remote broken looking very much surprised. Good heavens are you still trying to win in aeko struggling feebly pulling the dagger from his stomach holding the womb with his left hand. Rogan is pushing off from the table. Sword in hand moving into kill an ego. You've cautioned overdeveloped sense of vengeance. It's going to get you into trouble someday. Any watches account approach and the count flicks is sorted and he goes hot. And there's not much eagle can do just kind of vaguely parry the thrust with the six fingered sword and count you can splayed sinks deeply into a nicos left shoulder in ego. Doesn't seem to feel it as his other. Agonies are much worse the count stepping back going in for the hot again. And is this blow comes. He's trying to use the wall for support in forcing himself to his feet and it is not a roaring success of of an attempt but he does at least make some progress and again he manages to parry the thrust as this time rogin sword runs right through his right arm again and he doesn't seem to mind doesn't even feel it count steps back for just moments watching as an ego continues to inches way to his feet and then just before the count is about to strike again in ego manages a little flick of his own and reagan has an expected it and he jumps back makes a little involuntary cry of surprise in ego pushes away from the wall. My name is anita montoya. You killed my father die. Count rugen suddenly going to a fierce attack striking with great power and precision for he is a master swordsman and he forces ego easily back drives him easily into the wall but he does not penetrate. Nato's defense none of the count's blows get home as the count steps back from moment in eagle pushing slowly off the wall again. My name is a negro montoya. You killed my father to die again. He attacks slashing with wonder skill but none of his blows get through and slowly. Any go again moves forward. My name is nicole montoya. You killed my father prepared to die. Stop saying that counter oregon. We're treating more quickly around the table in ego drives for counts. Left shoulder now thrusts home with account has gotten him then another move in his blade into his accounts right shoulder. the same spot in ego was wounded. My name is nicole manteo. You killed my father repair to die no offer money. Yes our promise me that that i haven't more. Please offer me everything. I asked for anything you want. I want my father back you son of a bitch and on that inigo almost too fast for the either follow the sword strikes one final time in count rugen crying out in fear and panic as a sword hits home dead center and ego and rugen the swords. Clear through the count. They are almost frozen for that moment. Then in aeko withdraws sewed sword as the count pictures. down ruben. Lying dead his skin is ashen and the blood still pours from the parallel cuts on his cheeks and his eyes are bulging wide full of fear in ego staring at rugen and now in ego does something we have never seen him do before he smiles just for a moment on an ego smiling than inside the honeymoon suite. Wesley lies before not a muscle has moved. His head is still on the headboard yellen sword at his side but a cup is alongside the bed. Her eyes never leave his face. Wesley will you ever forgive me. But hideous sin have you committed lately. I got married want. It all happened so fast. Never happened never happened did i. Was there this old man said man and wife. Did you say i do well. No we sort of skipped part. Then you're not married. If you didn't say it you didn't do it. Wouldn't you agree or highness. Dick entering the room staring at them he pulls out his sword. Technicality that will shortly be remedied. The first things first to the death no to the pain. I don't think i'm quite familiar with that phrase. I'll explain and i'll use small words so that you'll be sure to understand you warthog faced buffoon that may be the first time in my life. Man has dared insult me. It won't be the last to the pain. Means the first thing you lose will be your feet below the ankles. Then your hands at the wrists next year knows her predict gripping his sword watching and then my tongue i suppose i killed you too quickly the last time a mistake. I don't mean to duplicate tonight. I wasn't finished the next thing. You will lose will be your left. I followed by your right. And then my ears i understand. Let's get on with it wrong. Your ears you keep. And i'll tell you why predict and now he stops and the look that was in his eyes at the wedding. That look of fair is starting to return so that every shriek of every sheild at seeing your hideous nece will be yours to cherish every babe that weeks at your approach every woman who cries out dear. God what is that thing will echo in your perfect ears. That is what to the pain means. It means i leave you in anguish. Wallowing in freakish misery forever humperdinck. Doing his best to hide his fear that keeps building inside him. I think you're bluffing. Wesley lying there staring at him. It's possible pig. I might be bluffing. it's conceivable you miserable vomit. It's mass that. I'm only lying here because lack the strength to stand then again. Perhaps i have the strength after all and now slowly westley begins to move. His body turns his feet go to the floor. And he starts to stand humperdinck. Staring eyes wide wesley. And now he's standing sword and fighting position to wrap your sore prince humperdinck and he's so panicked that he doesn't know whether to pee or wind his watch. He throws his sword to the floor. Have a seat wesley. Speaking to buttercup as humperdinck sits. Tie him up. Make it as tight as you like. And as she sets to work in aeko entering looking around specific thought he was with. You know in that case help him. I need helping. Because he has no strength humber dickin- now he starts wrestling mightily with his bonds. I knew it. I knew you're bluffing. I knew he was bluffing. Shall i dispatch him for you. Think you but no whatever happens to us. i want him to live a long life alone with his cowardice. It you go any go are you. They look at each other then moved to the balcony and physic- leading four great white horses. He glances up sees them on the balcony. Oh there you are inigo. I saw the princess tables and there were four white horses. And i thought there are four of us if we ever find the lady lady so it took the with me case we ever bumped into each other. I guess we just did. He go wesleyan. Buttercup looking down at physic- physic- you did something right. Don't worry i won't want to go to my head and is he holds out his arms. Something unexpected and very lovely buttercup floating through the air. What's happening of course is that. She's jumping from the balcony some physican catcher but her follows in slow motion so you might think she was flying. Westland inigo watching his physics catches buttercup. You know it's very strange. I have been in revenge for of so long. Now that it's over. I don't know what to do with the rest of my life. Do you ever considered piracy. You'd make a wonderful dread pirate roberts now from that the glorious white horses with their four riders triumphantly racing through the night buttercup and westley and at their last trials have done they stop. They grow to freedom it has. Donna rose wesley and buttercup. They were safe. A wave of love swept over them as they reach for each other as a cup and wesley begin their ultimate kiss. The grandfather stops reading. Now it's kissing again. You don't wanna hear that. I don't mind so much. Okay wesley. Since the invention of the kiss there have been saive kisses that were ready to the most passionate the most pure this one left them all behind the end they grandfather snaps. The book closed. Now i think he wants to go to sleep. Okay okay okay. All right so long grandpa maybe you could come over and read it again to me tomorrow as you wish and his smile is enough as the grandfather steps out the door. The final fade out the end. A thank you all for listening to the princess bride. Wonderful wonderful cast. I have in front of me. And i'd like to introduce them all to just really quickly Jackie carlson was your wesley. jacqueline tetreault was your princess buttercup. Jackie freeman was count rugen. 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Letting the lightness in: Stories of re-emergence

Meditative Story

22:19 min | 3 months ago

Letting the lightness in: Stories of re-emergence

"Hello everyone rohan here. Your host of meditative story. Darren mary beth on the team. A working. with new storytellers for upcoming season which begins very soon. In the meantime we always find taking a moment to look back at some of the richest expenses of the season will bring to a close gives us a chance to hold onto those moments before we move on. I think you're going to love this between season content. We've curated and as always please reach out. Hello at meditative story dot com if you have any ideas about storytellers or anything. You'd like to share with us. Please take a few minutes to settle in. Find a position while you're really comfortable. I don't need to remind you of the uncertainty and anxiety and in some cases profound difficulty. We've all been through over the last year and change. But i think we will vow to shift in recent weeks after so much hardness. Something lighter seems to be creeping into the frame whole lot problems. Haven't magically vanished. But lately i've felt a level of hope and optimism that's refreshing. I'm joined a short scenes from past season because they speak in a way to that change aumf reading their stories of emerging of reawakening in some cases stories of new chapters beginning and i really appreciate reminders of what that looks like and feels like we'll start with the story from dying nyat the author record-setting long distance from in meditative story. If tty seven in the feed. Diana describes it unlikely meeting that leads to an unlikely compensation which in turn changes the way she goes about approaching every moment of life. The body relaxed the body breathing. Your senses open your mind. Open meeting the world. I'm stunned. his breathing. That respirator to business so much. A sip as it is a galt christopher. We is backstage at a fundraiser event for stem cell research. It wasn't so long ago that he was larger than life superman the epitome of strength and virility. It was a cruel moment. His fall from his horse in a heartbeat. Christopher reeve became a quadriplegic his goal from that tube gave him a stream of air to get out. Maybe five or six labored words. Chris loves athletes and their stories and he recognizes that. I've been retired from rural class sports for decades at this point but he still asks me. What was the essence of your success as a swimmer. A makeup artist comes over to powder chris's face. How can i pretend not to be shaken to witness the life. He now lives strapped into this large contraption. His only movement possible by his is his mouth. Come on snap out of it. He's curious he's asked you something. Get it together. Chris as a teenager. I came to my last pool race after getting up at four thirty in the morning for eight years. I didn't yet know my athletic talent lay out in the ocean. This race was to qualify for the olympic trials. And i remember it as if it were. Yesterday i was walking down that pool deck in a days chris. I can share with you by chances that night were close to zero even after eight years of working hard. And believing what my buddy. Suzanne shook me she said. What in the world are you thinking about. You're in a fog. So suzanne grabbed my shoulders. Put her face with an inches of mine. Nt barked at me. Get up to those starting blocks blast off with every ounce of what drives you and when you touch that war. Don't look around and to see where you've finished. Close your eyes close. You say it out loud. I couldn't have done it a fingernails faster. And telling you cush i remember. Suzanne is every word even all these decades later. She told me. I guarantee you. You do it that way. You say it you mean it you will walk out of your with no regrets no matter what happens so chris. That's the way. I swam that race the last race of my youth and you know what i didn't make it but i walked off the pool deck that night with a philosophy for life i literally stopped looked up to the night sky and i said to myself every day of your life no matter what you to do it so you can't do it a fingernail better. No regrets chris steers at me. Pointedly any presses me so you promised yourself a long time ago to live every day so you couldn't live it a fingernail better. Had you kept that promise. He stopped me cold. I really don't have to think about it. I say one word to chris. Hardly christmas handlers comedies. Offer his appearance and as he's wheeled away i can't help but stare after him in part because it hits me that in a nanosecond any one of us could lose all that we so easily take for granted. The other thing is this here. I am face to face with someone. I've never met before for only a scant few minutes yet. He unabashedly calls into question. How i'm going about my life not a fingernail better. It's a simple vivid notion like that born of a random exchange. The lets us turn a page that needs turning out the times. It's something much more dramatic in two thousand fifteen ecologist alina. Connie suffered a terrible accident in a field falling fifty feet from the top of the rainforest canopy to the forest floor but this catastrophe that could have ended life. Did something quite different. It invited a new life to begin in. Its place after this. I do hope he go. Listen or we listen to the entirety of malini story in episode fifty. Nine one day sensing my mood. Erica says mom. I think we need to do screams. What are you talking about you in the wheelchair with me. We're going to the park and we're going to scream our heads off at the trees the next day we wake up early and drive out to mclean park. We are the loan car in the parking lot. The moist morning air shrouds the trees and us in a gentle mist the older trees on the pathways edge seem to lean toward us to beckon. She wheels me out to an open. Area i pause i hesitate. Erica smiles at me. As if to give me permission and then i scream as loud as i can letting out all my frustrations after a few minutes of this. She changes gear. She instructs me to whisper each thing. That i'm grateful for. I look at erica. As i whisper. And i realized something astonishing. Our roles have shifted. I'm not being the no all mom that is caring for her little daughter. She is the one who knows how to care for me. When forests suffer a disturbance younger species of trees start to fulfill the roles. The old trees used to play. The same is apparently true for me. Recovery demands that. I allow people in my life to change their roles to balance for my new limitations. And as it happens. The adjustment isn't all that difficult for us to make. Because i'm not the lynch pin i never was. I'm expendable in a certain way. And there's a calmness that comes out of knowing i'm not the one holding it all up. Perhaps this disturbance is an opportunity for me to consider other roles. I might play in my life things. I have an admitted out loud. I want to be spiritual i want to create. Maybe never climbing. Another tree wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing but it's not malini. The tree climber the scientist the provider. Mom the doer. Then who am. I the question of who are we. We hear. it's echo throughout our lives. It doesn't really go way there. The specific words sometimes change for many of us making sense of ourselves starts with understanding how to make sense of that question. Franklin ended is the founder of the blacklist the influential annual survey of the best on produced screenplays. His is the world of movies and as movies. Tell us regularly. We figure out who we are. 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TechStuff Classic: 5 Technologies To End All Wars - That Didn't

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TechStuff Classic: 5 Technologies To End All Wars - That Didn't

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All things tech and it is time for a tech stuff classic episode this episode originally published back in september of two thousand fourteen september tenth. To be precise it is titled five technologies to end all wars. That didn't and i think the title pretty much sets it all up. Let's dive in people who are real. Innovators really I forward thinkers for lack of a better word. Often get kind of idealistic and optimistic. Sometimes perhaps unrealistically so right and so we we have some examples here of people who very confidently at the time. Proclaimed that the technology either they invented or that they were an advocate for would be the end of war for one reason or another and they fall into different kinds of categories. So we're gonna talk about all of them. Yes so there's several different ways. I guess you could imagine that war between humans could in on one hand. It's kind of hard to imagine that because it's just such a fundamental part of human nature and human history. Obviously it would be a fantastic thing for us to not violently. Kill each other in great numbers at intervals of time. sure But there are few ways you could look at how this might happen so one would be to sort of make war too risky Though that it's just not in your self interest pursue it. Gotcha so the idea being that even if you feel you have an advanced military that to wage war of any type would would incur such losses as to nullify any positive effect that that war might have your so. You just cannot be of a net advantage to you. The only way to win is not to play. I guess another way though. This is kind of harder to imagine how it would be done would be to say that you would make war completely impracticable or physically impossible. So it's just you somehow create a technology that makes so that people cannot actually do it. You want to shoot somebody but your gun doesn't work. It's just filled with crayons. Yeah that would be more difficult kind of technology to imagine but some people have sort of gone down that road and it'll blur together with the category. I just mentioned Another way would probably be to sort of make war irrelevant leg to eliminate the motivations that would drive people to war. So you imagine that you might come up with the list of different reasons. People would declare war on one another. And if you can eliminate all of those reasons for people wanting to go my methodically. They won't go. Gotcha so this'll be kind of star future where you have created a world where where you've eliminated need. Therefore war is a thing of the past. Yeah gotcha the other one would be to sort of change us to change. Our outlook change our nature. Or at least give us some kind of perspective that would make war ridiculous to where we just realize. It's no good and we don't wanna do it. Gotcha and we've got some some actual examples that fall into these various categories to more than one well and they're one of the funny things is you don't have to go digging into the annals of crank history to find people who thought world peace would come about by one one of these methods in fact you can find a really smart famous powerful influential people who thought technology could get us down one of these roads to world peace and i think the first one we should talk about is guy who's very internet famous these days. Nikola tesla although you did say you know. You don't have to look at cranks while. Oh you're getting on your anti tesla. Look i just high horse. In our electrical horse. The episode that just published was a rerun about our episode on tesla where i talked about advocating for tesla. And the tesla versus edison debate. Well i mean it's it's not that i'm against tesla but it's pretty true that he had some mental health issues but at any rate. Let's talk about this idea. This idea of an invention that negates war right. Tesla thought that you could build something that would make war impossible. What was that thing. Well it's tesla's famous death-ray which immediately as soon as you hear the name you think. Yeah that that sounds piece all he actually called it after. I don't think those were his new york times called it a death rate. yeah So we've got a quote from nikola tesla this is from an article from nineteen thirty seven called a machine to end war which featured an extended Interview with nikola tesla where he gives the following quote. We cannot abolish war by outlawing. It we cannot end it by disarming. The strong war can be stopped not by making the strong weak but by making every nation weak or strong to defend itself hitherto all devices that could be used for defense could also be utilized to serve for aggression. This nullified the value of the improvement for purposes of peace. But i was fortunate enough to evolve a new idea and to perfect means which can be used chiefly for defense. If it is adopted it will revolutionize the relations between nations. It will make any country large or small impregnable against armies airplanes and other means for attack. My invention requires a large plant but once it is established it will be possible to destroy anything men or machines approaching within a radius of two hundred miles. It will so to speak. Provide a wall of power offering an insuperable obstacle against any effective oppression. So when he says plant he of course means power plant. Venus pleasure not yet. Nine enormous redwood or something so this death ray as referred to in the article was never actually fleshed out as far as we know tesla first of all was famous for not writing a lot of stuff down. he released that's why he claimed declared could Envision inventions completely fully formed in his head. And even take them apart virtually in his head and examined them to see how they worked and then eventually build the things and they worked exactly the way they were supposed to That's part of the tesla's story whether or not that's true. I don't know but at any rate we don't have any evidence that tesla had anything remotely resembling a death ray or what. The actual mechanism would have been well and he says my apparatus projects particles which may be relatively large or of microscopic dimensions enabling us to convey to a small area at a great distance trillions of times more energy than as possible with rays of any kind. Which doesn't really sound like it means anything. But at any rate during this time of tesla's life he was in his seventies and this was when he was really kind of mentally it appeared. He was breaking down. He had already shown some signs of obsessive compulsive behaviors. Probably even some paranoid schizophrenia. Because it was around this time. Also when he claimed that he had received transmissions from people either from venus or mars. So you know it's it. Things were a little rough for tesla. He was also in the process of moving from one hotel to the other because he would get victimized due to incurring enormous debts but because he had such a rock star status as a physicist and an electrical engineer he would be invited to go live in another hotel until he had run up the debts there so he may very well have just been trying to earn as much money as he possibly could selling this idea not necessarily. I don't mean that he didn't think it was real. He may very well believed that he could in fact produce this device but he didn't so But this definitely falls into the realm of let's make war impossible to happen by creating something that would prevent the very act of aggression from reaching the intended target wants. Another country knows that you have this capability to stop any incoming attack. There's no reason they would ever attack you because it wouldn't work right. Of course. I mean that's the that's the logic behind it and the idea. Actually now whether you're talking about Array or thing that he doesn't want to call a ray but is instead projecting particles or whatever it is. This idea has not necessarily died. The basic idea of creating a technological infrastructure that would repel automatically all incoming attacks and make them pointless right How about the star wars initiative. Yeah the the strategic defense initiative in the nineteen eighties often referred to as the star. Wars programme derisively. Yeah i've really wanted to do a full episode about this to really explain what the concept was. What the motivations were because this is this ends up being a very political I very political story. Not just technology story. In fact it's more political than technological in many ways The whole strategic defense initiative was fueled by the cold war between the united states and then soviet union and the idea. Was that if you have a system in place that can block any incoming missile attack. Then your country is going to be at an advantage and be safe from aggression This was during an era. That will talk about very shortly The whole idea of mutually assured destruction. But we'll get to that in a little bit so very similar idea a yeah. There's another idea that is a lot like this which is actually in use today. Israel's iron dome system of you read about this has been in the news lately. Yeah it went into effect in two thousand eleven. This is a an anti rocket defense system So it's meant to intercept rockets. Are fired from outside of israel into israel and it does this by firing off interceptor missiles at. They're called tam ear surface to air missiles. And you've got a radar system that first texan incoming rocket. And then you have computers running predictive software. That will look at the the pathway of the rocket predict which way it's going and then send an interceptor missile to destroy that rocket before it reaches its intended target. It's even supposed to only focus on rockets that are aimed at populated area. So if a rocket were to be aimed at an open area where. there's not likely anyone to be harmed. It won't target that rocket. The reason being that interceptor missiles are expensive. We're talking like shirt just shy of one hundred thousand dollars a pop. I mean so also. I'm imagining that. The system at large must just be incredibly expensive and complicated. Because i if it's actually able to calculate the trajectory of an incoming rocket to figure out whether it needs to intercept or not. Yeah i mean. Wow and there's been some criticism of the system. One is based on just a skepticism that it's really effective the idea being that it's possible that in a display of its effectiveness. When 'cause just recently. There was a news story where the system was able to shoot down fifteen different incoming rockets that were fired simultaneously And that that's really impressive. But there are some critics who suggest it's kind of in a conspiracy theory way that it could just be this. The israeli government firing off the interceptor missiles and then having them detonate. Because you can't see these rockets with the naked eye. When they're flying through the air they're they're too small for you to notice and they fly too high for you to not so. It's possible that you could detonate interceptor missiles. Then and then say oh. That's a successful interception. I'm not going to go so far as to say that. That conspiracy theory holds merit. I more inclined to believe that this is in fact an actual demonstration of it working But they're also critics say it gives it any system that's like that's whether it's the strategic defense initiative or the iron dome initiative it can create an unhealthy political environment. Meaning that you have this kind of technology at your disposal you may feel that you are to some degree invulnerable. It's weird to say to some degree but at any rate that you are largely invulnerable to incoming attack which some argue means that you have less of an incentive to pursue peace. Well yeah if we want to transition to the next item on our list here some people might say that it's very important that we all feel vulnerable in order to maintain peace. Yeah yeah this is where we get into the idea of mutually assured destruction. So this is Doesn't have a very friendly name but believe it or not. For the past century there have been a lot of people who thought that this was one of the best technological routes to world peace. And in fact this is piggybacked onto tesla's idea. Right the idea that if you are in possession of enough firepower of whatever sort that's enough to to deter people or other countries from attacking you this ends up being repeated over and over again up and up through the cold war before the cold war The cold war really a higher maximum. Who invented the machine gun said. This device is going to end a war because it's so dangerous that no one would dare attack. Yeah and that ended up being very much wrong especially in the whole story of world war one and world war two certainly proves that orville wright believed that the airplane would end war. The airplane would be such a incredibly superior vehicle that there'd be no reason to ever declare war for fear of what would rain down upon you. Obviously that became a very important tool in war. In fact i think there are some people who would look at those two examples. You just cited and say that those might have been some of the leading causes of world war one or obviously leading tool well. I mean causes in the sense that obviously there is a lot of international political. Does anybody really know what caused roller. One thing in confusion. But certainly an opinion that i've heard before and i don't know enough to dismiss it. Out of hand is to say that. A major factor in what led to world war one was the acquiring of new war making technology and people building up their military stockpiles and basically looking for a way to test this new stuff out. Well that's part of it. I mean during the late. Nineteen th and early twentieth centuries. You had all these different countries in europe including germany which had just formed as an actual country. I mean people forget that germany as a unified country didn't really exist until the mid nineteenth century since it had previously been part of of various empires before we talk about some more technologies that were supposed to end wars. But didn't let's take a quick break having trouble staying relaxed. Guide your thoughts from busy to calm and improve your physical and mental well-being with meditation. But anyone who has tried to start. Meditating regularly has faced the same problems. How do i know if i'm doing it right. How can i stay. Motivated and consistent. What if you could actually measure your focus in performance access that feedback in real time and use that information and data to improve your practice and overall wellbeing. That's where muse. The brain syncing headband comes in muse is a research grade. Eeg device that passively since your brain activity and translates it into the guiding. Sounds of weather to help you. 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From other nations which meant investing in military's for germany and for the united kingdom that was largely naval they were investing heavily in their navys But what it what it also meant was that you had these these incredibly powerful armies around europe that were ready to go at any moment with no particular opponent but you also have these incredibly complex treaties between countries. Yeah so when there would be a precipitating event. It wasn't in at least in hindsight. It wasn't a huge surprise to see kind of escalate into the major conflict. It became historical onion headline about world. War one. I think it's something like war declared by all it's a fairly accurate i mean. It certainly didn't all happen simultaneously but it is again in hindsight. You can totally see how it happened but at the time i'm sure people just thought it was. It was unimaginable But that that philosophy continued beyond world. War one yeah well so. It's quite obvious that machine guns and airplanes have not made war obsolete. There's a more questionable proposal which is that Maybe nuclear weapons have. Yeah all right. So you've heard of the these scientists. Edward teller sure. is born in hungary and immigrated to the united states and he had this to say about scientists in general which was the scientist is not responsible for the laws of nature. It is his job to find out how these laws operate is the scientists job to find the ways in which these laws can serve the human will however it is not the scientists job to determine whether a hydrogen bomb should be constructed whether it should be used or how. It should be used melt. The reason he said that was that he worked on the manhattan project. All right he was one of the in fact he was one of the three scientists who convinced albert einstein that he should tell the president about the powers of nuclear fission which then the president of the united states the president the united states yes in order to precipitate the development of the atomic bomb. Yeah and then. There became another discussion. Within the same group of the manhattan project about the development of what they were calling a super bomb thermonuclear. Weapon and teller was very much on the side of. We should make this thing this. This is something we should invest in And then there were other. Scientists like oppenheimer robert oppenheimer. Who said this is a bad idea. We should not do this thing. And there was a lot of disagreement Which led to some pretty controversial stuff down the line but at any rate you had tell her advocating for now. Why did he advocate for this way. He grew up in europe during a very tumultuous time and developed a distinct this like for fascism and communism Before leaving to come to america. One can sympathize. Yeah he he saw europe being torn apart. I mean it was already It had already gone through world war one and was entering world war two or was about to enter world war two by the time he was leaving and things just got worse from there so in his mind one of the worst things in the world was the formation of the soviet union he saw communism as being probably the greatest danger to the human race and his argument was that if we don't pursue this sort of weapons program this arms race the soviet union certainly will so. If we don't do it we're going to be left behind will be vulnerable. The only way to ensure that we're safe is to also engage in an arms race to develop these incredibly destructive weapons and thus be a big enough threat where the soviet union would never attack us. I mean we would surely never attack anyone else unprovoked. So this is just for us to make sure that they don't attack us. That was the that was the general philosophy. So build up your arms to the point where you would be such a destructive force that it would be crazy to attack you which is again very similar to what we've already talked about right so now we have gigantic nuclear stockpiles. Yeah on earth as a result of this doctrine but this is this is interesting. Because i feel like while on one hand. It's not a very friendly sounding doctrine. Some people might still argue for the wisdom of mad there. I mean there would be a lot of people. I think it is completely wrong to say that it would make war obsolete. I mean they're been tons of war since nuclear weapons were invented involving nuclear powers. But it some people. I think might still say that. Well maybe the presence of all these nuclear weapons did prevent all out war between say the united states and soviet union to keep in mind there have been tons of proxy wars throughout the years fought by these powers through other countries and chore. So so essentially what you're saying is the existence of thermonuclear. Weapons has prevented a thermonuclear war. Without the distance of these thermonuclear weapons in one or other of the parties the possibility of thermonuclear war rises. But because while you have this this balance where you have people you know who realize what the implications of starting such a war would be. It hasn't happened. Yeah even if you were to agree with this idea you might not necessarily think it's good for the world the whole in might be better for the people living in the united states and the soviet union and not so much for their allies But i'm not even saying i agree with this. I just wanted to say well. This is one. That's we can't put it in the totally ridiculous camp. Because i think there are still people who think that mutually-assured destruction had some kind of effectiveness. Yeah now this is also led to the very popular trope of creating a doomsday device. That is so dangerous that that's what protects you from attack right right. The idea of a fail deadly device as depicted in the movie. Dr strangelove which how how would something like a fail. Deadly device word dr strangelove. The way it works is that it's a device that once initiated cannot be cancelled and in in dr strangelove. It's it's the soviet. Union has built a device that will automatically activate if any sort of oncoming attack bombing attack. Were to target the soviet union and once it detects such an attack. It then initiates this device. Which is you can't turn it off. And and it's designed to kill essentially it's automatic. Yeah is just and because you can't turn it off then the ideas that's the perfect deterrent. Because you just tell everyone hey if you attack us. This thing goes on it. Kills everybody and we can't stop it we even if we want to. We cannot stop this thing and The the main character or the title character. The movie dr strangelove. He's not a main character but he is the title character points out that this particular kind devices only useful if the world knows about it if secret as it is in the movie but then it turns out like the russian planning on. The russian ambassador was like well. If you're going to have a big event next week unfortunately you jump the gun type thing and Supposedly dr strangelove himself was based off of teller. Oh really yeah. That's the that's the rumor although whether or not that's true i do not know but it's It's certainly interesting that You know this kind of idea has filtered into the fiction as well as into reality. This is also what fed into that star wars program. We talked about earlier the idea that well if the soviet union also has these major massive weapons and we have these massive weapons. Three really feel comfortable that just the presence of those weapons is enough to deter thermonuclear war. What if we could end up creating system that would shoot down enemy weapons so that we remain safe and that was what really Led to the that strategic defense initiative and teller was a major opponent for that he really wanted to see this enacted ultimately that technology did not prove to be very reliable and it didn't really seem like it would actually do what it was supposed to do At the time we probably could develop better technology now but it's a very different world now because cold. War's over sure. So even if we accept that okay what if we believe that mutually shared destruction prevented all out nuclear war between the united states and the soviet union. It still didn't prevent all kinds of other smaller wars during that time period and we can't say that it will necessarily always work in the future. I mean it's something that depends on everybody being sort of rational and self interested and on your technology being reliable and not breaking right and not just there are a lot of contingencies. That go into this being a good strategy for avoiding major warfare right not mistaking a flock of geese for incoming missile attack. That can right exactly. Yeah yeah i mean you could argue that saying mutually assured destruction as the reason. We haven't had a nuclear war is equivalent to saying. Hey i've got this magic rock that keeps tigers way. Do you see me tigers here. That proves it works pretty apt. Yeah so we don't want to just be doom and gloom here. I mean no. Let's stop talking about weapons and look at other ways. Technology could in fact prevent all war in the future and lead to a happy peaceful flower. Time yeah this is more of the idealistic version of people who came up with technologies and the their reasoning behind why they thought the technology they had either developed or advocated for would end war and one of them goes back to a fellow named marconi. he didn't just play the mamba. no he did. Not listen to the radio He did listen to the radio. he made the radio. Make noise So marconi often credited as the inventor of the radio. Can you pronounce his first name. Can i i could try googly. Elmo googlee googly elmo. Yeah i would say but my sorry i imagine elmo from sesame street but with googly eyes. My italian is worse than any of the other foreign languages. I don't speak. it's probably the worst out of all. Greek is maybe worse. Please enjoy our experience at any rate. Yeah so marconi. Who is credited as the inventor of the radio. I know the tesla fans out. There are up in arms and i agree Marconi used a lot of tesla's patents according tesla's like he's a good fellow he's using seventeen in my patents But but he is the first person to transmit a an encoded letter in morse code across the atlantic. And that's why. He is often referred to as the inventor of the radio. So he's into wireless very much. So he believed that we were going to enter a wireless age. Where we wouldn't just have wireless communication. We have wireless power which goes back to what tesla belief to. He was very much an advocate for that as well. But he thought we'd have wireless commerce and wireless fertilization. I don't know means but Yeah there was a an article where a reporter had interviewed marconi's in technical world magazine in october. nineteen twelve. Yeah so this way back in. Nineteen twelve and and marconi was kind of just thinking out loud about the possibilities of the future. I mean think about this. This is an era where we just had really mastered the harnessing of electromagnetic radiation for the purposes of communication. It seemed to at this point like anything could potentially be possible. Well let's go right ahead and say i believe radio certainly did change the world absolutely i mean it. It changed the world. Even you would say change. The world almost definitely for the better in lots and lots of ways. But when he says quote the coming of the wireless era will make war impossible because it will make war. Ridiculous turned out a little bit wrong now. I greatly admire the reason behind what he said you know because it nah it assumes that people will try to comport themselves with compassion and rationality and also let go of things that are culturally ingrained for generations sometimes millennia in some areas and that is a lot to ask for but his idea. Was that this wireless era would result in a world where we're able to understand one another communicate with one another so freely that we would end up resolving disagreements before would ever get to a point where warfare would even be a consideration. The the i mean. I don't wanna say this about someone who's obviously a brilliant man much smarter than me but that's so naive it is. It's but it's so sweet to be true. Yeah the the idea that well. Maybe we're just having a lack of communication. Yeah we're we're not getting through to each other. But if we have wireless radio going from every country to every other country we can just talk it out now. The truly ironic part of this is that radio would play an instrumental role in warfare. Yay everything from communication to radar and all sorts of other application. I mean not to mention just stoking anger around the world with talk. Radio hosts propaganda is a huge part of it. I mean i. In fact propaganda you could argue would be the opposite of what marconi was envisioning instead of it being this kind of nationalistic. Approach where you know. It's it's a very simple us versus them story where you make us as noble as possible and them as evil and wicked as possible in your in your narrative. I mean that's that's that's probably it seems to me exactly the opposite of what marconi's idealistic vision of the future would have been He also thought with this wireless age that we would probably have more access to resources than we do. Now which would help alleviate the reasons for going to warn the first place sure not just communication but resources well. He's not the only person in history in fact he's not the only famous brilliant person in history to have predicted that changes in access to resources would be able to obviate the need for war. I mean there is an idea that okay at least a large number of the struggles that we experience in our lives are over resources. We need food. We need water space and shelter. And so we are. I mean life is a struggle. We are competing for things that we need. I wonder how much you can really chalk war up to this. But let's take a look at somebody who thought that you basically could. You're talking about the chemist pierre eugene musclemen bartolo. Yeah bertolo yeah say. Important chemist very important chemists brilliant man absolutely brilliant man and in Some pretty pretty amazing things. Some amazing predictions that he made he was also interviewed for a magazine article. This was in mcclure's magazine. in september. eighteen ninety four and the article was titled foods in the year. Two thousand professor bird lows theory that chemistry will displace agriculture now. Some of his predictions in here while they haven't exactly come true are kind of perceptive of some of the the food innovations. We might see coming down the road obviously not by the year two thousand but still on the way and not not not Solely through chemistry with his his vision he was we we do now. Have lab grown beef absolutely yes. So he was looking at the world through the eyes of a chemist and this is right at the era where synthesizing chemicals was starting to really become an amazing industry and he foresaw an era where we be able to synthesize organic compounds as easily as anything else to the point where we synthesize in the lab anything we synthesize meet. We could synthesize vegetables. We get some synthesize alcohol and tobacco and his idea that once we get to this world which he thought would be around the year. Two thousand. i've got more of his quote in a second. That will will really kind of of pull in his idea of why this would change the world. He was sure that this kind of development would mean that one you would end up eliminating a lot of the problems of the world because you would have a surplus of resources no longer scarcity which would be a good thing on its own of course and keep in mind. This is a late nineteenth century europe a time when there were some serious famines going on around europe that were leading to lots of of strife and so hunger was definitely one of the big motivators. He thought well if you can eliminate hunger. You've eliminated a large reason. Why countries go to war. You take care of that resources problem. He also thought that we would develop food. That is so delicious and nutritious and edifying that it would improve the moral nature of mankind itself so in other words you would eat this food and you would become a better person and that would also help lead to the in divorce and not only would. We have a surplus resources. But we'd be better people and therefore we would not go to war because we would have compassion for our fellow. Men switches again. An interesting concept The idea that l. Make sure you get your your fruits and veggies in otherwise you'll go to war with spain. I mean that's kind of well. There were a lot of weird ideas floating around at the time about how nutrition like created the the personality of a nation. And stuff like that. They thought weird stuff in europe in the nineteenth century. This is true Here is one of his longer quotes. And i think it's absolutely charming again. You probably would have to chalk this up as being naive but still very charming man should grow in sweetness and nobility because he will have done with war with existence based upon the slaughter of beasts. Perhaps this is only a dream. Remember synthetic chemistry or something that we might call spiritual. Chemistry will develop means to as profoundly alter man's moral nature as material. Chemistry will change the conditions of his environment. There is no fear that art beauty and the charm of human existence are destined to disappear if the surface of the earth ceases to be divided. And i may say disfigured by the geometrical devices of agriculture. It will regain its natural for dir- of woods and flowers man becoming familiar with the principals and responsibilities of self government will be more easily governed. The favored portions of the earth will become vast gardens in which the human race will dwell amid a piece a luxury and an abundance recalling the golden age of legendary lore. These are dreams of course but science may surely be permitted to dream. Sometimes if it were not for our dreams. Where would it be our impulse to progress. Which i think is a beautiful thought. Yeah sure i. I wish it had turned out that way. Yeah well mean. This is like Tesla's case this is one where we haven't actually achieved the technological advance that he says is required to bring about this future so unlike mutually assured destruction or unlike wireless radio. It's not one we can look at it and say well the technologies here in your prediction fell flat. The technology is just not here yet. Maybe it never will be so. Yeah and even if it does get here and even if we get to a point where it's incredibly nutritious. I think this this moral improvement is probably based upon more nineteenth century philosophy than than our current understanding. Also you know. I unless you just take it off the menu. You're not gonna stop me from eating some of the horrible horrible food. I love the other thing i would say about. This is obviously at the ground level. Struggle over resources does matter very much. But we're talking about war here. We're talking about nations. Mobilizing vast organized forces and superior weaponry. I mean at that. Level of how many wars are started by people who aren't getting enough to eat of those alot of reasons for war are outside of resources. Resources often play a very important part in mot sure sure but there they might be resources beyond what we need to survive and be healthy. You know we might. I can see a world where everybody has complete access to nutritious pills that are delicious and fill you with happiness and butterflies and all that and that would be a great thing in itself. Yes but i still can see in that world people going to war over other things over boundaries of national territory over ideologies certain whether religious or or overall on ethnic division and just hatred. I mean there are lots of reasons that people do the horrible thing we call war. Not all of them have to do with competing for resources right. There are a lot of other fundamental issues that would have to be addressed and this particular approach would not necessarily address the so. How do we get to a point where we're able to get a different perspective. Be able to to expand our minds and and see what's really important. I mean what does it take. It's time for another break but we will be right back to talk about technologies that were intended to end war. Just didn't turn out that way. I want to get back to being a community group. I want to continue having soccer season. So i can throw parties again so i can go to her. Party's it really be nice to dining instead of getting delivery for a change so i can feel safe and protected for myself and my students. We have our own reason for why we're getting vaccinated against cova. Nineteen what we be visit. Get vaccine answers dot org for information on the covert nineteen vaccines. It's up to you brought to you by the ad council. do you love trivia. You love the hit podcast stuff. You should know then. You love the new trivial pursuit game stuff. 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Many astronauts have independently reported this feeling of euphoria and connectedness and togetherness with all of humanity where national boundaries seem to fade away right and the idea of human. Strife suddenly seems very ridiculous pointless. Because we're all in it together right. I mean it when you're from that distance and you see that everybody every single human being that is alive with the exception of less than a dozen people are in your field of view right then because they're all on that planet. It's hard to say that wire. Why are there divisions i mean. Why aren't there more. Wasn't there more of a connectedness who were clearly all in the same place where all on this one planet. This is also where you get this idea that a love astronauts report feeling that the world is is ultimately fragile place. it's this tiny blue spec. The tiny blue dot that you know you hear a carl sagan talk about and another phrase. You often hear hanging in space. Yeah i mean it is. It's it's floating out there just vulnerable to the universe. Yes and this is where we all have to live. Yeah and that this results in this cognitive shift that that is a phrase. That's come up cognitive shift. Because it's not just reported as a sort of momentary feeling of euphoria revelation but something that stays with astronauts after they returned to earth right and so if it really does happen to to everybody now obviously not all astronauts have talked about this but not all astronauts have been asked about it. Yeah so it may very well be that. This is a universal or near universal experience but some have chosen to talk about some may not have right now. Sure yeah so. We don't know yet but the fact that so many of them experienced this does make someone wonder. Well if we become a spacefaring species and everybody can have that profound moment of looking back at the earth and realizing the togetherness that we really must feel in the face of the vast universe that wants to kill us all right then maybe it would become widespread enough in humanity. That war just couldn't happen anymore. Yeah that's a tough solution right. Yeah getting along. The people i mean. We're talking i like the idea of. I mean if you if you narrow down to say. Let's get the people who would be the ones responsible for waging war in the first place like the ones who would be the ones to initiate war take all the executives in general's into space and maybe that's a little more manageable than say everybody Yeah this is one of the things where. I doubt that there is a truly profound moment. That a person experiences when they are able to look back on the earth and see it as this hanging globe in space. I don't doubt it at all. I wish i could experience it. It's one of those things. That i think would really mean a lot to me personally but because i seriously doubt that this is ever going to become something within the near future anyway that the average person or even the quote unquote important people would be able to do. It's it's one that i fear is moot in this discussion. At least for you know the the near future like the next twenty to fifty years Maybe i'm wrong. Which would be the best. The best mistake i ever made. I would love to be wrong about that. Well i mean as with What we were just talking about with bertolo having widespread nutritious food this is something that would be good in its own right and we can see reasons that it would be great to get lots of people into space for exploration and scientific discovery. Even if it didn't cause this show i. If this is a side effect of something that would be good anyway. That that's the sort of double plus unlike something like mutually assured destruction where you're just hoping it works out and it's not a side effect of something that's nice. Yeah so joe. What if What if during this era space exploration the astronaut's go up. They look back on earth. They have this profound moment. They go to mars and then declare war on each other. Because they're like this is mars. It's totally different her well and it's mars the planet of war that. Yeah it's it's it's as a named mars mars I think it was the mars bar candy company. I'm not mistaken. I you know. I have to renew their contract with nasa. It's going to expire and become the snickers plan. I haven't i haven't researched it. I mean i know. Snickers owned by visiting visit might be disney named pluto so Yeah i don't know i'm not okay. Look this is what's up spreading misinformation isn't stuff to blow your mind. I don't know science known i. Obviously i'm i'm just having a little goofy fun here but this is really like on one hand you could say we're kinda bumming everybody out because we're talking about these technologies that are meant end war but have an at least in a couple of cases. The jury could still be out up. And i like to think of it as there's no reason why we can't truly examine the the concept of war and really work towards eliminating it whether technologically or otherwise i think probably otherwise the technological solutions pretty much end up with well. We won't have war 'cause will wipe everybody out. Yeah i mean there are also plenty of doomsday science fiction scenarios about that right you create the The perfect artificial intelligence. That's super smart at super humanly smart. And you ask the computer you say. I want you to end all war on earth in the computer then runs through all the various scenarios and says that the most realistic one is to wipe out all of humanity. Therefore you cannot have war anymore and then humans go whoops. That's not a great great outcome. So you know i. i'm. I am a peaceful kind of person myself. I really hope that That we continue. I like the optimism and the ideal is even if it does border on the naive. It appeals to me that people who are really sincere in that and who really Pursue that are also these folks who are far more intelligent than i am not a one of these people as a dummy. No they're all like absolutely bryant. I mean they're they're discoveries their contributions to science you know i talk about teller. And his often called the father of the hydrogen bomb. He made so many different contributions to science. Have nothing to do with war. But that's what he's known for. All of these people had made amazing contributions to though the world knowledge and to technology and science and so. I certainly hope that. We see more idealistic. Innovators out there. like i feel it that In some ways Mosque comes across as that. He oh elam us. Yeah elon musk. He certainly also an entrepreneur but he does seem to genuinely believe in a lot of the idealistic things he talks. Well he's one of those big thinkers he is he. Certainly he certainly more intelligent than i am as well i have no. I don't mean like he has a big brain. i mean like he has big projects. Oh yeah he's he's Willing to take on things that might seem ridiculous at first glance and i think it's good to have people like that absolutely because even though we say this on forward thinking all the time even if you fail in your efforts along the way you learn right and by learning probably going gonna be useful to somebody. Yeah that wraps up this classic episode. One of the things i love about technology is how it inspires optimism but one of the issues. I have with unfettered. 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Hack Life like a Pro. Learn shortcuts to Agility from bestselling author of The Cheat Code Brian Wong

Agile Living, An Entrepreneurs Journey

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Hack Life like a Pro. Learn shortcuts to Agility from bestselling author of The Cheat Code Brian Wong

"Welcome to agile living entrepreneur's journey the show dedicated to discovering how entrepreneurs digital leaders are doing more with less. I'm jon voight your host as ceo of agility and. We're on a journey across the country to learn from top digital entrepreneurs on how to live a more agile adoptable and fulfilling life. Thank you for joining me today. And let's dive in. Hello everyone welcome. Back to the agile. Living show excited to jump on a book today. That a friend of mine published back in two thousand sixteen bryan wong and i met earlier this year and hit it off right away when i heard about his book. The topic definitely spiked my interest. And after some review. I felt it was a perfect fit discuss on here. The book is called the cheat code. It's all about going off script. Get more go faster and short. Cut your way to success. Sounds agile to me brian. Thanks so much for being on the show are having me john. Perhaps you can give the audience a little summary of what you're up to these days and then we can jump into the plot and ideas in the book. Absolutely so yeah. i'm still. Ceo and co founder of keep keep his a rewards platform that exists in mobile app. So essentially were a plug and play system wherever you want to enable some type of reward or loyalty in your app. You can use our technology. We've been around now almost eight and a half years. We've raised thirty two million in venture capital. We've been expanding you know more so in the last few years than in the early days we were early. I think as an idea. But you know we're still around And we're all over the country and we we do work globally. And we're really excited. It'd be doing we're doing nice nice. And so how does this relate to. The book is sounds like they could be related but at the same time the book sounds like it could be a whole different profession for you. A lot of people do ask that question. I would say because. I did start early. The back stories. I skipped a few grades in elementary school and high school and i graduated college at eighteen. And then i started the company in nineteen. And now i'm twenty seven A lot of younger entrepreneurs naturally curious and wanna reach out and time and understand how. I do what i did and so i got all of these questions and i was like. Why don't i just read a book to kind of memorialize the answers to these questions and so it came out a couple years ago and i would say ninety. Five percent of the content is still relevant. Today i'd say a few percent is outdated. But that's kind of how the book kim about things you know my whole concert with being agile as the world changes so fast so no matter what you talk about today. Something's going to be obsolete in a few years and you didn't know it was going to. So maybe maybe talk about you know. What's the format of the book. Is it tips and tricks. Is it a flow of for success. How does go through. What are you cheating scamming. Or is it solid solid codes. Yeah so we wanted to kind of align to the millennial attention spans so the the these chapters are less than three pages. Each their seventy one key codes There's a lot that is applicable today. Something that we want people to be able to action on now. I mean a lot of self help books out there kind of required to like a a you know a heave your entire life and just change everything and for our whole thing is like no like you don't have to just do a couple small changes now and you'll you'll be able to start seeing results immediately. So that was the main goal of the format. Yeah and you know the the reason why we chose the word cheat was obviously it was supposed to get attention but honestly it was referenced that she codes games because you know the younger folks are more familiar with the idea of using chicote any actually even older folks who've played against know that you can put it in the chicote and and get ahead faster. Gone back in the day up up down down left right left right as addicts sturt. Everyone awesome so. Is there a format for these or just a whole bunch of tips and tricks that you kind of learned over the years. And what do they really focus on so we kind of divide it and if you keep categories like being bold ballsy be you that type of thing and so part of it was as making sure that you knew can represent yourself in the best way so a lot of it is around empowerment and making sure that people feel like they can do it themselves and really kind of reminding people that most of the obstacles that are in their way are self-imposed and our mental and so those are the reminders that we kind of used as part of the book and the format is a combination of like anecdotes and stories. My long story life of twenty and these at that time i wrote a twenty four years But you know there's a lot of fun things in there that hopefully people get a kick out of. And and i think they'll really enjoy reading it right right awesome. Well you know if you could pick a couple of the top highlighted ones that you know could could give a couple of them just to get people kind of sneak peek on on your methodology of how you would explain some of these things absolutely so you know the kind of the favorite she could in the book that a lot of folks gravitate towards Is no your superpower and a lot of it is around identifying your strengths and focusing our energy on that rather than trying to fix the things that you know. You're not good at. And i think unfortunately our school system in society is kinda like. Oh you gotta you know beer. See or or an afro. Whatever you got work on that you've got to put all your energy on it. But i mean my my number one sort of comforting statements are those who are not doing so well during classes in the schools. I listened that you're not going to be doing calculus for the rest of your life. That's not your strength. There's other things you're really good at. You should put all your energy into that even when you're in your adulthood and you're working like yeah you seem to be really good at selling are really good at designing and being visual are really good at numbers like just focus on those things and then those who invest the time like. It's the ten thousand hour rule like if you could put ten thousand hours into something You will do really really well and if you if it doesn't feel like that much time it feels like it's part of you than it's even better right and that's kind of how you should be allocating your time as you get older. Society does not help with that. I can even think about you know our last strategy meeting and we get together and we were like we zoomed through all the all the winds for the previous week but then when we get to the you know what did we do bad on or what do we need to improve on. You spend so much more time on those things just because you naturally want to solve problems nationally. Want to fix things. That aren't good but you know maybe as you said you just focus on the better thing and you can really knock that out of the park. That's the best part right now. You're hearing the clock tower in south carolina. Maybe it's charming. Well the other thing. I would say about The people who who are curious to fix these issues as you should be finding people around you that have superpowers. That are complementary to you so the number one thing i observe with you know sort of dysfunctional teams is when everyone is superpower because everyone's stepping over each other's toes and they're trying to do something they know they're really good at it and then this is actually where you get co founding teams where you have like. I mean i'm talking. This is like the first year of their operation in all of a sudden they have a chief innovation officer or the chief strategy officer. Because everyone's the same thing and they all want to be the ceo. He can't and this is what i see too often a lot of teams with overlapping superpowers. That becomes very dysfunctional but they they get along as friends because they have the superpower so they won all work together they do so but then i inevitably inevitably and i will tell you one hundred percent of the time people disagree with me and that's inevitably ends in unita. Choose between friendship or the business hundred. Unfortunately it has breaks friends groups that breaks a lot of things. People were mature enough to go through and go okay. You know what my ego aside like. You're the right person to run this and then go from there. Those are the best kind of transitions teams. Okay and so. How deep do you go in the book in terms of these codes. Do you explain how to find your strength or is it more about. This is what you have to go do now. Go find some other book or some other way to dive right. Deep into that into the nonce full full full script. Like what do you. How do you get that superpower as at your history and you know look at what you used to be super excited to do like. What was the activity as a child. You would jump right into your mom and dad were like well. You would just keep doing it and you would never feel like you were spending too much time on it. And everyone has this and and it's not related to your passion necessarily. This is what i think. Is the big misnomer along volume like that is actually the worst advice. I think it's actually more to do with your obsession. So what are you obsessed with. What are you spend time nonstop right if you're obsessed with like this is like a perfect samples. My brother i mentioned in the he ended up studying geography. As his undergrad at uc and it was like you know he. He liked it but then he i remember. He spent so much time online. These fashion blogs like the height beasts of the world and he was on top of every new sneaker and shoe release ever. And i'm just like first of all i'm not as negro heads. Ause this crazy that you're looking at this stuff and spending so much time wasted time right to him. It's like two others. Yeah it's amazing. Yeah it's like their their soul and then but guess where he's he's working now works of franken oak and he's in fashion and he had a long career at herschel before that. And i think you know people don't realize it but you if you give yourself you before herself that time you will gravitate towards the thing that doesn't feel like work and you know unfortunately not a lot of people get that luxury but if you happen to be alive situation where you are able to do that go do it. That's it right right right awesome. What votes mother you know. Obviously once you kind of figure out that that strength that things should focus on where. Where do people go from there. I think once you know that strength you need to be you know obviously bold enough to pursue it or at least orients your job or the things. You're doing to be leveraging that so what we try to say is okay your day to day if you're not leveraging that strength every day you're wasting your time right so for me mine is. I'm really good at getting people super excited about stuff. This is what i do. Like i could take anything. Sit in front of someone for a few seconds and and tell them about it at with energy and with my facial expressions and my hand movements and then all of a sudden they'll get just as excited if not more excited than that's like what i do and so i'm like well i gotta make sure my job has that every day so i'm more of an external facing ceo. Spent time with clients spend time with potential employees to spend time with potential investors in existing investors. And that's what i do now. If you're like brian you have to sit in this. Dark room and analyze spreadsheets all day. I could still do it. It's not like i couldn't. But if i were to do that it'd be wasting my strength. So that's type of you know less than that. We're trying to convey here right right right so this is a very high level kind of code. You know it's like you know very high level big picture you know how. How deep detail do you go with these codes that they've one where like you. I actually recommend people to get a trademark haircut. And i know that sounds a little funny. The whole point of it is self. Branding ram like you know. There's a lot of people that that okay obviously like. I make this hilarious sort of funny comparison that most of the most memorable historical typically evil figures in the world have very memorable haircuts assured like mentioned. Yeah sure exactly dr strangelove or whatever. Anyone who's like just reno was for now. Fictional point is there's a lot of people who you know and remember through their brand and i also try to remind you about your hair. It's about your personal brand. And i actually bring back. You know branding one a one. What is a brand like nike or mcdonald's or starbucks. It's not a simple on a logo. Its promise it's a promise of a service that you receive or a product or a style of service or just as roy experience crack and that promise of that expectation that your butts receive is what the brad has spent all this time building and as a person. You also have a personal brand. You have a promise. Like if i go to to you like what. I'm going to expect it. They go to me. What am i going to say. These are things that you do. So if you maintain that brand consistently you will always see continued inbound of people who are looking for that type of thing and that's the type of thing i try to make actionable. The book also even goes into things like cold emailing and reaching out to people and when the biggest complaints i get from people are i. I don't know this person. And i'm like but who cares. We have the internet and everyone has an email right and you can email anyone and you can guess it. And if you don't guess it keep trying and you can't find there's their email email someone who knows them get an intro and just you can get a hold of anyone in the world and so i'm saying though right there. Yeah but it's all mental. What have you got to lose. So i tell people another chica that's related to it is just ask because if you ask for something and you get a no is not like your life was going to be any different before you ask that question so you only stand to gain by asking those questions. If it's a yes you have just one. Yeah and that's a huge deal right right totally okay. Cool cool awesome any other big tips that you know. End off the book you know. How does it start at the beginning to the start with that bigger. you know. find your strength and then go to these smaller things or does it wrap up with one really big final kind of cheat code since does sorry if it does another now that there's no big ending in fact it's it's divided into four. You can read it from back to front middle the back any direction you want. It was just meant to be a casual pickup book. Where if you need some advice and certain categories you can kind of look it up But like i would say there's there's a few more that are around. You know he goes even to things like getting reporters and free press to Convincing someone to believe in you and how to do it even funny tactical one was how to get people's phone numbers who are powerful to like. How do you get a see you. Because we've always laugh at the fact that i was like. Oh yeah you're the ceo of this. I'll i'll text them. The you have their phone number and then people always be like. This sounds so elusive. You have this person's sean. but it's super easy uses. Go to an event where there's a lot of people and chances are they'll be there if it's an important one and typically for me would have been things like cs south by south west and can and you would go to them and they would be like all like well. How do i get a hold of you let you would say how would i get a hold of you later. And the lilia. Just text me and they'll give you your number so as long as you're not super cooper weirdo. They'll give you their number. And then you have their number. And the now i've got reporters phone numbers. Ceo's phone numbers heads of state. And you just get into that and then you can start being more golden closer relationship with them and i think that's the other thing too that i remind people as you know. We do get intimidated. A lot by someone's Gravitas or their You know sort of demeanor or image and use it to remember that at the end of the day those people are still humans. They wanna connect. They wanna feel like they belong. They wanna feel like they You know are still living a somewhat normal life. So you know the cmo's that i interact with where the first line. I'll give them. Sometimes they'll say oh. You must feel like walking. Atm sometimes and then just with that line. Everyone's like oh. You've no idea like every time i talked to someone who's want money from me. They want us to buy ads. And i'm just like yeah. You know even though i want them to buy ads with us i know it. Sounds really facetious. But at the end of the day. I even if they don't spend any money with me. I just built a relationship and my priority is that first and foremost always the relationship first and then everything else follows and that i think is the most important thing that people need to remember so it sounds like a lot of this is is kind of the foundation of. What are you really good at. But then also. How do you apply that through relationships. Absolutely and the soft part of business. And there's no right formula or step by step process. It's just using what you have which is another chico by the way literally beyond just knowing your superpower using what you have would be for example. I'm a minority. And i'm from another country at least in america now as you know. I'm you know. And i look chinese so i use these things to my advantage rather than being down on myself. Oh you know i. I'm chinese and english may not be perceived to be my first language. People might discriminate. I use that to my advantage all the time. Yes people think asians are smart. Know math really well. I'm gonna use that. I mean they using what you have is such a huge important thing that people don't realize sometimes people shun what they have. They get really down on themselves. Like if you're an immigrant you know the best thing. Is you actually understand two cultures now. You're immersive immersive into the culture in today and you also are from another country where you understand everything about that. That place and the people are from there and that makes you double as worldly than the next person you're talking to so it just becomes a big strength and people can't you can't handicap yourself. If you go into a situation thinking that your your differences are what make you weak versus your differences. They make you strong. You've already lost right right right right so it sounds like a lot of this stuff is attitude going in with the right attitude. Going with confidence one hundred percent does. Do you feel the book gives you that. Or is that something you to go into the book with mono absolutely not you can finish reading and people just get really energize you know the story behind. Even how the publisher found me was they. They saw me speaking an event and they were like man like after we finish listening to you. We just wanted to get up and just do something. We just got this energy. And i was just like okay. I'm really glad to hear and they're like well. How can we bottle that up into a book and that was like the big challenge and then we ended up. I think accomplishing that. And now what was so cool about it. Yeah i love that. Just getting up and doing something. Because as i talked about being more jaws leader all the time it half the time. We're not agile because we see something coming but we don't do anything we sit. There were like it'll pass or this whatever but things don't pass or they pass so fast that you got to move quickly so just getting up and going and moving faster is is. What's gonna keep us on top stuff going forward so that that's awesome. Absolutely i think lacking bbn stasis is just as bad as making the wrong decision to be honest. So my number one thing. I'll tell absolutely i tell all the founders that have invested in or the people that i work closely with and i say listen you know if you're not even sure it's the right decision not deciding is going to screw you harder than actually doing something about it Because at least you move the peace down chessboard and you start to see how people react and then you can start to make decisions based on more but if you have none of that. You're not going to be able to know anything you're just sitting there like a like a waiting. You're just sitting dock waiting to get attacked And that's a bad bad move. Yes kind of like in sales. You know the best answers. Yes the next best answers. No because maybe just waste your time. You're sitting around waiting for things you're questioning things. You're burning cycles. But with a no you can move onto the next. Yes and you can move onto the next thing so that that stays. Is that middle status. I didn't ask you know and then learn something from that and then move forward and be better you know. And that's the thing that i push. Were like yeah. I'm i'm an adult of a thick skin. If you don't wanna buy our product tell me now. Why and then. I'm gonna tell that feedback to the team to make sure we get better. It's that simple. It's not rocket side. Yeah no love it. Love it on and i love the format of the book. Were you know it's no specific order but you got all sorts of different Codes and ways to kind of improve different areas of your life. So it's really great. If people wanted to get the book or chat with you about your speaking staff or your or learn more about the book how how would they reach out to you. Honestly the best these days is linked in. It's still my favorite social network. So just find me on there under brian wong and shoot me a note And i'm happy to respond to people but my email is super easy to guess. How kind of put it out there. Companies your allies keep dot com. My first name is brian. So you can kind of do your own thing and decide what how you know how to retreat game. Actually we believe will get it all. You have to get the book and read that one chapter how to. Yeah yeah there. You go through or you need to do that. Maybe he shouldn't be reading the book at all also. Thanks so much. Brian it was. It was great heavy on the show. And i read through parts of the book. Haven't finished the whole thing. But i'm excited to To get through the whole thing and apply some these tips because some of the ones have already read over are pretty awesome. Thanks okay thanks. A lot take care. Thanks for spend some time with us today. You've just taken the first step towards villian life journey love. You subscribe to my podcast that way. 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Two Bold WFT Predictions

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Well she's the one that probably enjoys my company the most and by the way the feeling is reciprocal It's it's it's a mutual. I i'm kidding. Of course but she is a great dog she's a two year old Just turned to english bulldog. You know it's funny about bulldogs people either real into bulldogs or they're not This is first bulldog. She is been great. You're gonna probably hear some heavy breathing. Perhaps on the podcast today. It's her We are in transition here this week. We are trying to move into our new house which we've been renovating bore everybody with the details but the renovations taken longer than we thought so. We were in a one in a two bedroom furnished rental for a month but we had to get added there the other day and now we are in the residents in Courtesy of marriott and we should be there just for one more night and then we're going to be moving in on friday and saturday so she you come with me. I envision this like charles foster kane moving into xanadu. I didn't see xanada no citizen kane citizen kane. You know i've seen citizen kane. You know i i know. You've you've already lectured me on this before. It's considered the greatest. I understand that. I understand that. There have been several of those greatest movies of all time. Especially the old ones that i haven't seen. It's funny vision. Seeing is at your house off. Similar to citizen kane moving into xanadu Should i just rent citizen kane one night and watch it. Is it still good today. Yes because there is a movie that was nominated for an oscar to last time. Call make about the The author the guy who wrote the screenplay for citizen kane Herman banquets Was the guy who wrote the screenplay and the movies good bank it was nominated for an oscar nominated film and that came out in twenty twenty so yeah it says the. It's still relevant movie to this day. I think i should at some point. Go through the list of all of the old classics. That i haven't watched you know Like citizen kane which is always way up there on the less straight. Tommy wizard a citizen pain. Let's start with one arm with one and see how it goes seen casablanca right. I told you that. I have not seen casablanca either. Okay well let's start with two that okay. Okay so citizen kane. Would you put that ahead of the godfather godfather one. Yes would you casablanca ahead of the godfather. Yes gimme some mother. Old movies like it's a wonderful life. Where does that rank on the old movie scale. Well that's that's a christmas movie almost of its own. It's not in top ten greatest movies of all time or even top twenty. You know. I wouldn't and i've got i've got a movie called. Meet john doe. That's sort of like a christmas movie. That i would put ahead of that but It's okay it's fun to watch. Where would the godfather be on your list. It sounds like you'd have several movies ahead of it. I would the maltese falcon a headed chance. Another one. I've been seen that. Yeah i mean the maltese. Falcon is an unbelievable script. Hitchcock movies where do they rank. You know i'm not catch cockeyed there. They rank among the greatest of all time. Some of them Rear window vertigo. I'm not used. Except for the birds i'd like. The birds was pretty scary. I watched that one. Yeah yeah but But start start with one and and take baby steps. You know 'cause because your life is a little bit crazy right now. I don't know if you have time to sit down and watch citizen kate I did watch. And i got caught up on ted lasso the other night and can't wait for the next episode of that. So that's is that that's the thing i'm focused on. The formula one is come to a halt the last two weeks. i'm through the first five episodes. I'm enjoying it though for those that have reached out to. Hey that was a good recommendation. It's not a recommendation. Because i've completed its recommendation because i've started and i am enjoying it a lot. I am all right. I'm look let's get to a one thing i wanted to talk about. What happened in my life. did you get your get. Your is shot up again. No this is a different procedure different. I had to have laser surgery in my right eye. Your laser you know. I i had a cataract surgery on both. I remember the which was this. Is going to be one of those squeamish. People are going to be covering their ears. Get me through this quickly Little things from you where we end up with the the is are really a sensitive area for a lot of people. A of people don't like to hear the stories of of things happening to there is. I know this is kind of supernatural. So you got to hear this okay. So i had to have laser surgery. I want any is because a cloud had formed Behind the lens that they had put in which is a common occurrence head. Yeah yeah so basically they go in and clean it up. you know. it's like clean up the surgery. It's pretty simple. They do it right in the office. You know you. You're out but and you know she. She they put the eye drops in your eyes and your eyes. She says you're not gonna feel anything. It's not gonna be uncomfortable. But she right before she starts. You might feel click In the back of your head coach. I don't think so so i would. I'd rather talk about jimmy moreland and troy app key right now so much more and i don't even wanna talk about that and i feel this cloud on the back of my head back. God i hope you took like valium or xanax or something. Be before all of this to really make sure that you were loopy. No i think it didn't hurt. It was just like what's inside my skull back in my skull there was a click steve shop for those of you that here these things and then develop like similar symptoms. I'm sorry i'm really sorry about this. I had no idea what he was going to say. No supernatural click inside your head. We go back to old movies. How about dr strangelove. Absolutely dr strangelove. Peter sellars played three roles. Dr strangelove car named desire right. That's a movie great. Play a great move okay. I didn't even know it was a play on the waterfront. I think it's more of a great brand new movie in movies that were made from. Let's just say nineteen seventy five on. Okay so you know movies seventy five on you. Miss chinatown seventy on because godfather to obviously Okay from from nineteen seventy on. Because you know we are. We do on this. Show live in a world of of kevin's life. That he remembers not not going back for nothing exists. Yes before see right Nineteen seventy on godfather jaws Start start listing. Some great movies from from you know from that period on obviously we have so many of the tarantino movies in recent movies. Gimme your godfather number one. Please tell me that. Nineteen seventy and on godfather's number one. Well i you know my favorite or what i think are the greatest movie movies. Aren't they both the same one in the same because my my number one would be would be a miller's crossing recognize. That's not a greater movie then the godfather godfather too so i would put both those ahead. I would put chinatown And the top five of the greatest movies since nineteen seventy i would put raging bull the five Fabulous not now as much as i love it. i wouldn't put it in the top five okay. of greatest movies How about one flew over the cuckoo's nest. That's a pretty good. That's a really good movie really can let me just mention real quickly on that particular movie. That's a movie that even a younger generation. I know this because two of my three boys think it's hysterically funny. And i'm always surprised at a movie that old. And when did that come out. Tommy late seventies nineteen seventy six seventy seven. Maybe okay Jaws has to be up there right. I mean certainly what about what about. Oh god this to me still is a movie when it's on. I will watch it and this might be eighties. But it's post. Nineteen seventy deer. Hunter phenomenal movie. Dear honoured. the're i remember seeing it. The movie theaters. And i remember i saw it with a bunch of my friends we saw and we were gonna go out after that. Nobody was going out after we saw. That was the stale. The stay always in nineteen seventies. Movie right Yes remember that that The theme song from that the entertainer. Whatever it was was like you know number one on the charts for years. Okay people i have. I have All the president's men. I just pulled up. Listen it started at number fifty and all. The president's men was number fifty followed by network. This movies of the seventies work network absolutely ended. Top fireworks was a good movie I successfully moved away from his description. from what happened yesterday. Let's get to Let's get to some washington football and what's happened. The last two days shall we okay. Let's go right ahead. Let me let me just begin with this. I i want everybody to understand that. I am not necessarily Being condescending to those of you that have really reached out in incredibly concerned and passionate in obsessed over this. But i wanna give you a couple of thoughts on the last two days which are cuts and then practice squad and all this stuff that goes on tommy can. Tommy will weigh in afterwards. You know the cuts. Tommy the formation of a practice squad. I think it's a more recent phenomena you know which by the way is good because even if it is niche which i think it is. I don't think this appeals to the majority of football fans this time of year. But i know that. It appeals to enough It just shows how important the nfl is. And how deep into the you know into the into these teams everything that happens. People get but the the associated angst You know obsession concern passion. Whatever you wanna call it over it that some of you have I just i know it's significant because the construction of a roster is obviously important. But the i forty three on the roster is important by like a factor of. I don't know ten twenty fifty over the final ten spots. I'm not saying it's totally meaningless. Because it's not but the odds are in favor of like the healthy majority of the players that we've been discussing or many of you have been discussing for the last two days or not really going to be significant to the actual games real games. You know they're not going to be significant to whether or not they win ten or lose ten this year and probably not even next year. I'm not saying that. The development of the back ten percent of the roster and then the assignment of sixteen players to a practice squad is ultimately an important thing to a franchise. But i do think we don't know that much about that stuff like it's one. I think. I think everybody knows a lot about that stuff. No that asks them. Just ask them. Of course but i don't think they really do like it because i don't think they do either. Look if you in a tizzy. Last year over. Adrian peterson being released. At least. That's a player that you really know a lot about you know. Have some strong feelings about. But you know shock a tony over william bradley king or dax milne over. ag g. or the big one. Even jimmy moreland getting cut four. Oh by the way. Not troy ocoee I'll explain that in a second. But getting cut for. Say darrell roberts or benjamin saint juiced. Yeah he may been cut because of benjamin saint giusto. Explain that. In a moment i understand. They don't play the same position. But i'll explain that moment. But i think we can all have really strong opinions but the opinions on real games with players that play a lot. Hold a lot more weight like a lot more i. I am on one hand appreciative. That so many of you are so into it. Because i think you know the. Nfl has done that to people. It's it's an it's another new phenomenon just like the indy combine became must watch. Tv even though that's very niche to You know ota's mini camps and obsessing over all of things just show really in a reflection of just how incredibly popular and how deep people go with the nfl But to me it's a very overrated conversation not not for the team not the decisions that teams making but our evaluations on what. They're doing have to wait. Because we just don't know enough. About why darrell roberts versus jimmy. Morlin let me just make one thing clear to those of you that that probably know this but many of you don't not one player they released was picked up off of waivers not one so all of the angst over the players that they released. Oh my god. They've made a massive mistake. Cutting a g g will not. He was not claimed off waivers and they were able to sign him back to the practice squad. The coaches know. When we're talking about the back ten percent of the roster. They just know so much more. We haven't observed these players in regular season games. We have with jimmy moreland. But we really haven't much with darrell roberts or benjamin juiced. They know a lot more. They may be wrong ultimately but they have a better perspective. That's all i'm saying now. A couple of quick things troy app key. Let me just make this really clear. Didn't take the spot on the roster from jimmy moreland. I mentioned two and a half weeks ago before. I think it was popular to a mention. This that i thought troy app. He was going to make the team. I actually thought troy app. He flashed in the preseason games in just evaluating how he played. He's got incredible speed. He tackles wellness physical. I understand he did not play safety very well on this team. And they're not gonna have in place safety and he may not play corner at all this year he'd could if injuries really rackham in a game and he's out there and he's got to be moved into a corner position but they kept him because he is an excellent special teams player. He might have to play corner. But i doubt he will darrell. Roberts likely took moreland spot. And so did benjamin saint juice let me explain. What's become clear with saint juice from the jump. Is they like them a lot. They think he can play on the outside with his size with his length and when they go nickel or when they go more than four. Db's fuller's gonna play a lot in the slot. He's gonna take a lot of moorlands. Slot reps from last year with saint juiced replacing fuller on the outside. I had a hunch two and a half weeks ago app. He wasn't going anywhere. Because ron rivera. It's become clear going back to last year. That special teams are a priority for him now. They weren't necessarily with old coach j. At but they love hudson. They love distinguish as her everett. These are all guys that may not see a lot of defensive snaps but they're on the team for special teams. Now you can evaluate whether or not you think that's overall more important than keeping jimmy. Morlin is a backup. Slot corner for for kendall fuller. Or maybe darrell roberts. I don't know That's an that's a worthy discussion special teams. Don't make up a third of a game. I i you know this is something i remember saying many years ago and i remember thinking you know what. That's so true. I i'll never forget. He went on this rant about coaches that emphasize special teams. Because they always say it's a third of the game. Well it's not a third of the game you know it's more like a fourth or a fifth or six or seventh of the game depending on the game. But it's not it's not as simple as that and it's well hold on let me finish. There are major special teams. Plays that change games. No doubt special teams even though they are much less in terms of the play count in a given game. A lot of the plays that happen on. Special teams are incredibly significant in. If you don't have good special teams they can cost you a game. They cost washington a game. Land airline and then just special special teams place. it's it's essential to feel position which You know either sets back to defense or sets back. The offense no doubt it's contribute. It's not equal to offensive and defensive. That's not okay. But but it it. It has a big impact. Maybe not a third of the impact. I would argue with v. i don't even know. I don't even know what the i mean there are typically on average ten punts sogame game six kickoffs a game You know Field goals and. Pat's probably another ten so we're talking about twenty five to thirty know. Special teams plays a game and offensive and defensive snaps. You end up with like sixty one hundred twenty Let me just mention a couple of other things just observations. Okay not getting into whether or not darrell. Roberts is better than moreland. Or if ricky seals jones keeping him in samos. Rao's was better than keeping peyton barber or however it shook out. I mentioned shock at tony when they drafted him in the seventh round. Because i watched a lot of penn state over the last couple of years. The other thing to me that it's clear ronn wants He wants quick. Twitch guys on defenseman and tony is one of those and i mentioned in the in the preseason game last week when i did the recap of what was utterly unwatchable one of the things that i you know caught. My attention was just how quick shock. Tony is as a four. Three defense event rushing the passer like to me. He looks like a guy that has a future in the nfl. They kept him over. You know he's a seventh round. Pick not a lotta seventh round. Picks end up making the final roster. But that's been a trend here over the last couple of years the releasing of peyton barbara. Even though they signed him back to the practice squad goes back to that gibson in the cincinnati game getting the short yardage carries. I think they feel like they can use gibson or maybe even patterson in short yardage and barbara assigned back to the practice squad so the practice squad has lots of flexibility so he he may be on this roster and he may be there short yardage back. You know in a lot of on a lot of weeks. But i think gibson will be fine as short yardage back. How about by the way martin mayhew comparing jarrett patterson tommy to ricky ervins and jamie morris thought that First of all the ricky ervins thing is very apropos. You know super-quick super-quick feet great vision. Which is what you could see on the very first series against the patriots I also noticed. Just one other thing. I think that keeping patterson was a-. Gimme but it's also Instructive because i think they kept milne. Overage e. g. bs i think they view milne as a potential slot. Receiver down the road. So patterson could replace mckissick who's got a year left on his deal and milne could potentially replace humphries who's got year left on his deal. You know just another observation on. Maybe some of the wise on decisions you know. He talked again the other day about sustained culture with young players in developing young players. If iran it's all about developing something that can sustain over a period of time not be a one off now. The ryan fitzpatrick. signing some of. You would say well. He's just going forward this year. No it's hard to evaluate all the young players and give them and put them in a position of getting experience. If you don't have a quarterback on the field you can trust anyway that that's kind of it from the last couple of days. I found it very interesting now. Some of you may say in. It's true there weren't a lot of waiver. claims to begin with. It's it's still a weird situation right because if you get there then you've got you've got to be in you know if you're unvaccinated especially you've got to be in quarantine i think you know I think it's there weren't a lot of waiver claims in part because it's hard to get somebody new into your facility and get him through everything that's going on right now and know who you have and be able to trust to you have there. Were waiver claims. I mean there are plenty of them but just not as many as there used to be and maybe there will be over the next week. I mean this is the other thing that's different about. This year's having you know the two plus weeks you know between the final preseason game and the regular season so a lot of people and a lot of the players look cam. Simms was cut last year. There was one two players last year in their final thirty cuts or thirty-five cuts to players. Who ended up making a contribution to the team last year jeremy reeves and cam sims. So it's certainly possible that one or two of the players that they cut that they brought back to the practice squad could end up being a significant contributor this year. I challenge you to pick which once and be right on. Because i think that that's much harder In a lot of times it's dictated about by where they ended up having injuries during the regular season last thing. I just wanna say the cam newton release which happened when we were on recording this show the other day and we did not ask ourselves the question who will what about washington. And the reason. I didn't bring it up is it didn't even occur to me. It occurred to a lot of you though. That cam was out there. Now ron rivera will go pick them off. Waivers ron rivera's passed on every opportunity to sign cam newton. Why did you watch him. Play last year he stunk last year. I mean i used to be a big cam. Newton fan and still i will remember cam from his prime years as being really unique and fun to watch cam. Newton suck last year his days as a first rate starter are long gone. Do you think cam. Newton could still really play that. Belichick would cut him so he did. Bring up a question about cam yesterday. I don't know who asks that. I just saw. Somebody tweeted out. What about cam. Newton ron rivera said ryan fitzpatrick are starters so we finally got the admission that ryan fitzpatrick is the starter. Which apparently somebody told me that. Ian rapoport reported it the other day as if it was like breaking news. I mean we all know all of us who are living the day to day here. That ryan fitzpatrick was going to be the starting quarterback from the jump And less he completely soil himself in practices not even in the games in the preseason games. Anyway why you talked about here with the You know the roster cuts and stuff Its version of what. I always talk about In managerial decisions in baseball there's a difference between information and knowledge and fans have information about these players you know. They know what they saw games. They have this statistics. How many tackles they had. How many plays they had to have more information than they've ever had before. But they don't have the coaches knowledge. You know it's the same thing you just. I may seem to you. you know. you're not an insider. I'm not an insider. Okay we don't know what the coaches think about every player on the roster. And and i mean that's what you're talking about here coaches have i mean obviously would ask you. This is a coaches instinct. And tommy there are degrees of like you know Perceive knowledge if you if when we start watching all of the players that play in the games in the real games. We're going to have very strong opinions. That are going to be based on watching these players in real games. And we're still not gonna have the knowledge that the coaches have but we're going to have a lot more knowledge on on on what we're watching then versus trying to look in people on the beat. You know their their everyday watching practices. But they don't know. I mean i. I love all those people but they were convinced. A lot of them were that. Oh my god. Some of these players that got cut. They're going to be picked up right away. Nobody got picked up so either either. They're wrong or the coaches. They were really wrong. Or the coaches. Were really right. I'll side with the coaches being really right. Because obviously they knew who would clear waivers and by the way player that they knew they would want back on a practice squad to have access to them like antonio gandhi golden like jeremy reeves. Like some of these other players which is great you know. Maybe the coaches really understood the coaches and the general managers. All of them really understood and played the game that you know we really do like a g g we like him just as much as milne but because of the previous injuries he probably will clear waivers milne. We know a lot of people liked coming out of the draft even though he was the next last player drafted overall but there was going to be a huge crush teams that were going to sign him as an undrafted free agent which is why we picked them. He's not gonna clear waivers so there's probably a lot of that involved as well. I guess my overarching theme here is focused on the i forty three the the not not not the fifty three at. That's for them. That's where the lack of knowledge or the difference in knowledge is greatest. And would you would say the difference in knowledge is pretty significant on the. I forty three two and i would agree with you. But it's so much greater on the last ten to twenty. You know the last ten spots that they decided on whatever we could go on and on about this. I mean i have a really good. They have a very good roster they have they have the best roster they have had a long time. How does it stack up against the rest of the division. They're scheduled that they're going to face. We're gonna find out but they have in their first forty forty three players the best. I forty two forty three. They've had since at least two thousand five. Maybe two thousand those probably right you know the derek forests in the territory machiners players. Yeah one of those players. According to the people who love who you love who covered the team chase young. It's not a practice today. albouy kovin. Well we don't know yet. What else would it be. Maybe he's got another game. Show that film. Don't do that You know that's really what we should discuss next Because there's no i mean. Urban meyer made a big mistake. Well he made a mistake. I don't know how big it was for being honest. Yeah he's being totally honest but unfortunately those are the rules into into it. You know to admit that you did it. It's like you you can't you can't hurt yourself a they could potentially get fine significantly with this. I know but i. I read a union quote. What did the name quote. It was basically it that you know. He pulled the fire alarm. So we've got to investigate. I don't think they're crazy about coming down on him either. Do you think the leagues happy that he pulled the fire alarm. I don't know if they are not. But i don't think the union is particularly chomping at the bit to punish this guy. I think that you with just assuming everyone vaccinated sure. Yeah i don't know. I just think it's man he's a he's investigating because they have to as much as anything not because they're they're eager to. Yeah well he's because when you when you were a college coach you run your own kingdom. Not really answerable to anybody. Yeah he just he does it. He has no idea what the shield even is completely unfamiliar with the shield and how powerful. It is by the way just real quickly before we get to our next subject. How about some of the tornado. Video thinks the flooding video new york right up. Here at frederick was tremendous flooding rain. Yeah school bus had to be They had to rescue ten kids out of a school thoughts that got caught in some road flooding. Here so I didn't venture out at all yesterday and still happen. So i don't know what it looks like out there but what's yet to come is Is the river. the river's rise will continue until probably friday And that could be interesting as well. But yeah the videos You know. I mean basically i. Cnn didn't know where to turn the day between the Western far western fires out lake tahoe and the flooding in new york. It was like an end of days. Mourning the the the tornado video from annapolis in edgewater Was pretty pretty incredible. The video And i don't know. Wh i guess the national weather service will go out and they will assess the damage and then assign How strong tornado was but the tornado in south jersey. Have you seen that video. That people are estimating. Was you know an f three tornado. Like it was it looked like a mid west tornado. Look like something out of the movie twister. Hit really did i mean. I didn't know that there. You can get a tornado that ominous that big on the host. But it was. It was if you haven't seen that video that video of the tornado in south jersey. It is dark eighties big. It looks like something from the movie twister. It looks like something from you. Know storm chasers. It doesn't look like it should be south jersey. That's for sure. How about one other quick thing as long as we're talking weather on tuesday night because we didn't do a show yesterday. The lightning event on tuesday night the lightning in the rain and the thunder on tuesday night was incredible. You probably slept right through it with all those clouds in your eyes did what was the was it. You're so vain clouds in your eyes. Something in your coffee clouds in your coffee. Yes something in your eyes clouds in your coffee girl and the clicking in the back of my head but but that's your girl carly right. I know yeah. I know carly site in tommy once said that if i were on a train and got in somehow ended up seated next to carly simon for an hour long train ride. We would probably be dating by the end of the train right. That was before. I actually matter at the book signing signing and found myself unable to speak english what it was my turn to talk you. You've had that issue a couple of times and that had nothing to do with clicking in the back of your ed the brooklyn brooklyn decker at the super bowl that you're sitting down in front of us and i know you've got some crazy story to cover for that. But oh my god i. I've told it so. 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Which was a crowd favourite of sorts and it was just a bold prediction. It was a bold prediction. That tommy would have i would have and that we then we'd open it up for calls and it could be a bold prediction on anything sports related and it often turned into something and a lot of things that weren't sports related but it was a fun segment. We loved it And i told tommy before the before we started recording today. I said i wanted do a you heard it here first on the washington football team season upcoming because i had a thought and it sounded to me when i had the thought my own head without any clicking whatsoever that that it was a you heard it here first thing because i think it is bold and i think it is a bit of a reach and i think it is against the odds here so you have one but since i asked you to come up with one because i had one i. I'm going to give you mine. I you ready. Okay good. I think ryan fitzpatrick is going to start all seventeen games for washington this year. All the quarterbacks have played over the last few years and it's been what since twenty sixteen right since twenty minutes since two thousand seventeen. It's been since two thousand seventeen in the run of kirk cousins. Starting all those games that it's been a quarterback carousel for washington. I think ryan fitzpatrick they have. Supreme confidence in washington will be competitive team all year long and if they lose games it's sometimes maybe the fault of the offense but it's not gonna be overwhelmingly the fault of the offense. The offense is going to be improved this year significantly. I know that's not saying much. But i just had this feeling that ryan fitzpatrick is part of it. By the way let me just mention is that they barely even played the dude. And there were teams with veteran quarterbacks who were playing a lot it would that have been with their own teams. And i just have this sense. It's because they're really confident in him and very comfortable with him. So my you heard it. Here first is ryan. Fitzpatrick starts all seventeen regular season games for washington. First of all everybody. You heard it here first. You totally disagree. Which is another reason. I wanted to do it okay. So are you ready for mine. Yeah did you say anything about mine. I think yours is very noble. It's noble yet. Do you want to say anything about the substance or lack thereof of it because my you heard it here. First speaks directly to your. You heard it here first. Okay go ahead done okay After four straight losses including a very ugly loss on the road to the denver broncos washington football team will name kyle allen as their starter for when tampa comes to washington to november fourteenth. Game here on the by week talking about the first four like they started off. Oh and for no no. No no no they they. They lucid at chief. The packers they lose to the saints. Chief packers and broncos ugly city broncos on the road and that is halloween afternoon october thirty first and then they had the by week and when they come back to face. Tom brady and the defending champs on the fourteenth kyle allen is the starter wound will be to starter. Okay that's bold. You know what. Dare i say. That is noble as well. Because i think you. I think it's it's. It's quite effort. And i think it's very honorable. And and and honest on your on your part and and required a bit of work as opposed to my usual picks. So we're just on the opposite ends. I've got right just starting all seventeen games and you had thank. You haven't benched after the eighth game after fourth straight loss. And dare i say if ryan fitzpatrick gets benched this year for performance. He ain't come back next year. No no not. i should've added. And they signed him to a one year contract extension before the end of the regular. You could save that for a week. Seven after the losted broncos right so did you see the other day after our conversation about bryson de shambo and i recommended the kevin van valkenburgh story and i also recommended the berries. Ver- luga story. Did you see that. The pga tour may update their fan conduct policy and fans could get a jagged from events for disrespectful behaviour including shouting out brooks easy to bryce indie shambo. Yeah i saw that. I tweeted out. I said. I put it on my resume. If i got kicked out of golf tourney we'd never do either to begin with well if that happened. I'd be so proud. I put it on my resume. You i read an article. I forget which. I give the guy credit. Use a golf writer sets the pga kind of created this thing For themselves i mean they encourage the bronx. What's his name. Brooks co coca chapter kept good. He's the guy. I mean he's the guy who basically you know encouraged all this harassment of Of what's his name. Bryson dissemble right. Yeah yeah yeah. He's the one who encouraged us. i mean he offered. He offered free beer to fans. Who who harass them and and the pta Has encouraged guys to be more vocal and more Demonstrative on social media so we're fans so this writer was saying pj kind of created this situation disease When when you pump that pump. These are the kind of fans you're gonna get. It's a great point You know. I i read yesterday and i'm looking for some of the quotes but i'll paraphrase because i can't find them rory mcilroy kind of came to d- shampoos defense saying you know it's kind of gotten out of hand and he somebody that has good intentions and he means well but he also said simultaneously. He's brought a lot of this on himself. He's an asshole. well they all have that obligation. What is our obligation to protect assholes. When did that become an obligation. I don i don't think it is the obligation of of us or the tour and into not to be honest with you. I think it adds a certain element to the sport. The sport mrs and has missed over the years. You know he's going to have to deal with it. I mean i adversity. He brought some when he referred to augusta as a par sixty eight for him. I mean i look for those of you who are wondering and don't know much about it. Bryson de shambo is outrageously good golfer and talent and already a major championship winner wing for the us open last year. He's really actually fascinating to watch because he swing so fast generates so much speed and hits the ball longer than anybody has ever headed but with that He is you know has been acknowledged by almost everybody that's ever associated with them as the kind of guy is the smartest guy in the room. And if you're not sure just ask him and so that's driven everybody nuts over the years and then he's made a lot of comments and he's blamed things like manufacturer for for for the clubs and when he when he's played poorly in referred to augusta's apar- sixties brought a lot of this on himself and then he developed this incredible rivalry with brooks capco. Who probably has been a bit of an asshole himself In this whole thing yet. But but really feel it. Because i think he understood. This guy's not only the smartest guy in the room but he's also hypersensitive to criticism and hypersensitive to this and he's really played it pretty well and he's gotten under skin You know over the last year but that's sports different. You know the the expectation of the gallery in the fans and the conduct is just different than than other sports. You know and so. I think it'd be interesting if they through somebody out for yelling cooksey you know. I was trying to think of now trying to think of What he could say to help this situation. But i think you have to be self aware to sort of be able to handle the next press conference where he's asked about it like i think there's just a you know i if you're gonna shout it it's fine. I've probably brought some of this on myself. I love golf. I love the the nerdiness in the science and all of that stuff behind golf. And maybe i talk in social media about it too much But this is who i am and you know deal with it and then and then just focus on going out and kicking everybody's ass because eventually willing to self deprecate yourself a little bit you have to be. That's all with that. And then the redemption of coming back. And maybe he's gotta sink to a lower depth because he hasn't done that yet he's squeeze great well. Depth could be coming later this month when him and coca capco are teammates on the ryder cup. Yes issue. I know you're going be this. That's going gonna come up on the press conferences and all that stuff. And i'm reading new york times story where Capita said i can deal with anybody in the world for a week. I'm not playing with them. We're not gonna be high five and it having late night conversation right but he did. He did put a little bit of a holiday pause on it like you know what. Put our guns down. It's christmas We're gonna we're gonna take down here in celebrate but that was before this latest stuff Went on and it's gonna to be it's going to be a. I bet you bet you bet you i bet you. There's peace for ryder cup. And if there isn't an it's in the cause of it then kept his kept kids going to pay for it. The golfing but the issue is not going away. It will be a major press conference issue before tournament. Yeah true true. Dat tommy true at all right you tell me real quickly. I'm gonna get the smell test here to finish up the show momentarily Two things and i know you wrote a column. And i know you wanna talk about your column which i want you to do What did you make victory less being sent down. And then what did you make of bob. Boone when the nats mandated vaccines for all of their employees him leaving the organization. Well i was always surprised that bob boone last as long as he did why he must have had some value because he was. He's been there since two thousand five longtime bob. Boone is a holdover from the gym odin era and obviously he worked well with people must have contributed something of value to lasted as long as he did. But you know i mean. I don't have sympathy for somebody who doesn't get the shot. Just don't you know they're on. They're on the list. God that's unbelievable that you are a list person that is for sure on what. I'm sure. He's really concerned about it erin. Yeah that's his son. Aaron who just coming off open heart surgery right now. Open heart heart surgery a year ago and had the shot you know. I'm assuming he gets together with other from time to time. Don't maybe doesn't maybe. This is one of those where you've got information but not knowledge. Don't want to the whole year body your choice thing i'm vaccinated. I don't understand those that aren't And there's been very little that i've heard from people who aren't that makes a lot of sense to me but i'm certainly not going to put somebody on a list if they don't get vaccinated what about ramblas i mean this was a this was a guy that at one time tommy. Correct me if i'm wrong at one. Time victor robe blessed was thought to be more of a future star potentially than want so true or not true. Victor as was untouchable he was the guy that other teams wanted in trade talks. And the when you know. He was considered an untouchable prospect I tell you what i think. The nats wouldn't have had to trade lucassie alito. If they'd be willing to deal traded away for the roadways two white south for In deal they made what chicago so. He was considered an untouchable Player that almost every team. I call the nets wanted in a trade. So it's it's a big setback. Pretty organization send him down at this point. What are the chances that this is just a blip for him that we look back at the end of a great career and say remember back in twenty twenty one when he they really were very disappointed with performance and they sent him down to the minor leagues. You know i mean it's south in nineteen this guy. Hit seventeen home runs sixty five. Rbi stole twenty eight aces and had thirty three doubles. So he's shown that he can play in the major weeks. The problem could be you know once majorly pictures. Got a book on him. Maybe he didn't adjust and i don't know if he's capable of adjusting But the place to do that is not with the major league club. It's with rochester. Look guy this talented. Every other team wanted. I still. I think i i'm well to go. This is more of a big bump in the road rather than a crater that victor roadways. We'll be back with a major league team and be the contributor. There's too many people that Has this guy as a top prospect for everybody to be wrong and not just for the nationals for other teams as well okay. You ready for the first job. You're calling my fault go ahead. Let me tell you about the guy who's playing for him. You're thomas right lane. Thomas is the guy who is basically one of the reasons they will send victor roadways. now is How well lane thomas. The young guy they got in the trade with the cardinals almost like a throwaway trade at the end deadline You know for john lester I wrote a column about lane. Thomas and how well he's been playing And basically pointed out that I learned something about him. Personally that In knoxville tennessee. Eastone is the king of cabinets. The king of what cabinets like making making a cabinet like building cabinets so not building cabinet selling cabinet. Oh okay do that. In high point north carolina the furniture capital of the world. I know he and his sister are partners. And several cabinet. Showroom lay thomas is on the cover of the knoxville city magazine in october. Two thousand nineteen not first baseball for selling cabinets that yeah so i interviewed him. I interviewed his sister. Whose partners with them and This is a kid who who has a business future ahead of himself whether or not he makes it baseball or not. he's played. He's played real well for washington and fourteen games. He's three or four and You know he hasn't been able to stay healthy for any sustained period of time when he was with the cardinals and they had a lot of outfielders light cam. So that's why he wound up getting traded. But i always thought it's interesting. I mean you don't see too many young players that have fulltime businesses off season. Yeah that are successful. i bet i bet you. That's a real like for someone like mike. Rizzo who's i think you know really smart and really. Well i mean. He's obviously a a real keen evaluator of talent. But i bet you those kinds of things that he and certainly the learner is probably like a lot like. It's an intangible about a person yes yes there is a certain level of ambition and intelligence and liked likely some maturity that comes along with it and you know having been responsible for a lot of that. Yeah i read my call. I will read it. Maybe you could re tweet it. I i will retweeted if i like it but i probably you re retweeted anyway. Even if i don't like i'll i'll more likely than not retweeted. It's not your typical com that you because it's not an opinion column columns. I like when you're really I like when you are on the attack more than anything. I like when you see. I like when you are simultaneously attacking and using your wit in a column. I've told you this before and much is saying this year. Because tommy is my friend and longtime cohort. But i think you and sally as far as the columnists in this town have the go on the attack better than anybody and smarter than anybody and with the most wit i think sometimes sally's you know doesn't even realize is sometimes when sally goes after somebody she'll use some word that will just make me laugh because he's and i don't even think she realizes it but i will. I prefer those columns of yours. But i bet you. This is a good one in look. You gave me enough there. That i'll go read it for sure. You don't care if i read your not. Of course i care kind of it's not a big deal. I care okay. Big deal to you all right. Let's wouldn't i wouldn't sit in a quarter and listen the clicking on the back of my head if you didn't read my column That clicking in the back of his head fortunately you've probably heard more deep breathing on this podcast than the clicking and that would be from my dog who just jumped up on the chair She's ready to wrap this. Show up i think and so. Are we smell. 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Episode 24  Stanley Kubricks Paths of Glory (1957)

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Episode 24 Stanley Kubricks Paths of Glory (1957)

"Hello, and welcome to episode twenty four of cellular junkies. I'm Damien heath. And I'm joined by my co host Luke Cain. Casual twenty nineteen going. It's coming really nicely. Thank you, all for joining us this month. Right now. We're stuck deep in no-man's-land about to engage in debate about the merits of Stanley Kubrick's, early anti-war, film parts of glory. Since the publication of the book twenty five years ago. No one there to make this movie. It was too shocking to friend casualties. Do an -ticipant say five percent kill by Homer is very generous allowance. Templeton born days. No man's land. Borgen's that leaves sixty five for the west Papa job over, let's say another twenty five percent and actually taking the anthill still. Still more than added to hold it. You know, you say more than half my mental cube aside, from the capable fact that Goodman, even in the trenches is the question of the truce morale don't forget that the troops Morales. Certainly these executions would be predic- tonic for the entire division youth things, more fundamentally encouraged against letting seeing someone else died. His name. He wrote one Frenchies advancing college. Advancing. This purchase. To come in spouting on our own positions. Picture the western front in champagne. France, March tenth nineteen fifteen they, you say fear from the golden girls, this World War, One is still in its first year and the Germans have invaded France, two months of relative inactivity and filed a tax made the French army anxious for a successful movement against the Germans an order is made for French troops to retake an area, north of the village of Suen, which was earlier, taken by the enemy, however, an early morning Tillery barracks. Drops shells on the French troops instead of the Germans by accident. And when the troops leave the trenches to move into position Thia gunned down in large numbers. Thanks to the Germans undamaged firearms, the remaining troops refused to leave the trenches knowing that the movement is going to end in failure, and further casualties, general revile AC in charge of the troops orders. His divisional artillery to open fire on their countrymen in order to make them attack. But the commanding artillery, officer refuses to obey this order the attack is halted reveal yak. Instead orders twenty four men, including six corporals in eighteen lower ranked troops to face a court martial and charges of cowardice upon penalty of death. This was intended to set an example, to other members of the French on forces all twenty four men without guilty. However, all eighteen Loa ranked troops were granted clemency as I was chosen randomly from the ranks and to courtrooms were also relieved from the penalty as they had not heard the orders to attack four men all corporals had their sentences carried out, including a forty year old father of to a thirty year old father, a twenty eight year old father and a twenty three year old that were executed by far ings squad on March seventeenth just one week after the fouled attack. The full men were exonerated of that charges on March third nineteen thirty four nineteen years after their execution. The style of coal Marshall used for this case was abolished on April twenty four of nineteen sixteen demonstrating the injustice of the trial with no right to appeal. This way in corporals affair as it is, now known is regarded as the most agreed just and most publicized, military injustice during World War, One fast forward to the mid nineteen fifties and photographer and documentary filmmaker Stanley Kubrick had begun to transition into feature films with his debut fear and desire and follow up killer's, kiss both of which were original screenplays written by Howard Sackler, although the latter was covered by himself, his first two features received lukewarm reviews, but generally Kubrick story from was praised following the release of killer's kiss. Kubrick, serendipitous Lee met producer James b Harris with whom he would form Harris Kubrick peaches corporation under this banner. The director would produce films that gone at him critically claim and notoriety first up was filmed while the killing based on a book by relative newcomer lawn. Why it was the first of Kubrick's features with an adapted screenplay and Kubrick was able to get sterling Hayden who'd previously starred in the asphalt jungle and Johnny guitar for the lead role United Artists gave him. Budget of two hundred thousand dollars in Kubrick's, sill finance deferred the hundred and thirty thousand while the film stalled at the box office. Several critics named it two year end top ten lists. This new found critical success allowed Kelly to work with Harris to get the rights to the late Humphrey, nineteen thirty five novel positive glory, cope hundred in the book, as a journalistic account of his experiences during World, War, One and the title was taken from the seventeen fifty one Thomas gray poem, LG, written in a country, churchyard Harrison Kubrick who'd read the book, when he was young paid ten thousand dollars to the widow of Humphrey Cobb to cry, acquire the rights and granted a budget of just under a million dollars by United Artists who were interested when Kubrick came to them with Kirk Douglas at already attached to star Douglas took him about one third of the budget, but still left Kubrick with a healthy allowance of more than six hundred thousand dollars to shoot the film itself. Jim Thompson, who had co written the killing with Kubrick wrote an early draft of the screenplay before it was handed to call the willing ham, who would go on to write the graduate, a decade later Kubrick, Tom. Simpson Willingham ended up in arbitration with the writers guild, when each man's contribution to the screenplay was disputed, filming took place, almost entirely in Bavaria, Germany, and more specifically near Munich over the course of eight weeks in March, April, and may of nineteen fifty seven the film premiered in Munich, on November first before being released in the United States in December reports state that film broke even was possibly even a modest box office success but critical acclaim was undeniable it received a nomination for best film at the BAFTA losing today. Vid leans the bridge on the River, Kwai and was in nineteen Ninety-two selected for preservation by the library of congress in the national film registry. It also generated great controversy, something that would accompany Kubrick throughout the rest of his career, the film wasn't shown in France until nineteen seventy five or in Spain until nineteen eighty six or uncensored in Switzerland until nineteen seventy it was withdrawn from the Berlin film festival in Germany, so as not to strain relations with France and band at American army bases threat Europe by the United States military on a. Happy night, Kubrick met his wife during the filming of glory. The film's only female speaking role that of a captured German woman senior French troops, at the end of the movie was given to Christiaan Susanne Harlan, who marry her director in nineteen fifty eight shortly after the film's, release their marriage produced two daughters, and lasted into Kubrick's death in nineteen ninety nine Luke. How did you enjoy your trip down? Stanley's path. I really loved it. I didn't expect to when you pick this movie. I was like. A war film from the fifties, but it's not really a war film. It's a political film, with the war backdrop. And I was surprised at how emotionally compelling was very grim. Very devastating film. But it's so concise and tents that it doesn't become more Lynn or depressing really doesn't become depressing has like that. Snappy staccato style of the one brothers films from the cities, but combined with the kind of the visual magnificence of the cinemascope films that were actually coming out around this time, I had the same reaction went on state that we'd be doing this film, because neither of us had seen it, it was one of those ones that's just been on my list forever. My list of films to watch. And so, I thought, hey, I really want to watch this film, and I really wanna make Luke Watchet say, let's do an episode on it. And also, you had previously to down my request to two thousand one space odyssey and I had a cubic that I needed to scratch. I'm just not ready. A two thousand one I will see at one that you still haven't seen it which is just crazy. It is. It's probably the most glaring emission from the list of films that I haven't seen now I do need to just just in case anybody actually listens to our podcast to the very end or at all on the last episode. I did choose this film, and I chose it just before we announced it. And I did say that it was courtroom drama. And you willingly went along with that, and said that it was courtroom drama. It's not it's got a court martial in its war film. It's an anti wolf illness, the courtroom scenes in this film, are very slim will this really ones that. Yes. That's right. And so, you know that was that was inaccurate. I think it's a hot film to classify. It is pretty hard. Yeah. I mean you say it's a war film, but it's not like I mean, the majority will films especially coming out in the fifties. Pro Bowl films. Well, not, not, not know that the majority those some really big examples of. Pro Bowl films. Those patriotic big films. And this is not one of them. No, it isn't an, it's so sorry really only got one scene of actual fair, which is a maze. Saying is just stunning anybody's listening to this podcast to has seen obviously would have to agree with that, hopefully, if they're listening to have seen it, because, as you know, we spoil the shit for Kubrick at the time that positive glory was made was not Kubrick. You know he wasn't the name on the credits. The, the director would become that. So few directors have become over time. Kubrick was definitely one of them. You know, you've Kubrick Scorsese David lean you've got, John Huston later. You've got Steven Spielberg James Cameron. And, you know, the name becomes the star the name of the direct to becomes the stop the positive glory, was just a film, by an unknown a couple of in that list, you didn't mention Hitchcock, who who's that. You're right. No. He didn't. He was twenty eight years old. He hasn't had a really big hit he'd had a movie that was well received the killing definitely hadn't had to be. No. I and I mean you know, he had independently financed his films up to up to the point of positive glory. And he wasn't the Kubrick that had caught blondes Haney what he could do. I mean his later films of his here, a little bit more indulgent. He's confident he's less afraid to let shots linger let moments linga with positive glory. He knew he knew he needed to hit and he was thinking, commercially. And that's something that Kubrick wouldn't do for very long after this movie afraid to have that kind of militated time pubic has he he does let his shorts linger. I mean one thing that I read was that he made a dove mingy who played general Broussard in this film, he made him do you know very well regarded at been acting since the twenties, I think he made him do one scene twenty seven times something and men's you ended up chucking absolute. From about apparently thirty seven to take you said, that's my best reading. Made him do it again. I think apparently he screamed at how big like I don't have to take this type rant and then Kubrick's ready to go again. Again. The most shocking thing I read, you know, sort of extra textual thing I read about this film was that Kubrick even considered putting a happy ending on the movie. And apparently, will this is from Kirk Douglas in his autobiography. Apparently cut Douglas shot that down and said, no, we're not doing that. But I think that shows the lengths Kubrick was willing to go to have hit because, you know, all of Kubrick's films are pretty Listrik, and this one is too, but to consider that, you know, wouldn't it's so on Cuba into think that this could have actually had it all well, and Douglas gets them off. And I go home to their families very hard to imagine. He had already changed the role of Dax so much from the real life counterpart in real life. I read that he had kind of stepped aside to allow these things to happen where he is far more proactive in passing judgment on them in the movie, I mean positive glorious so much about compromise. And one of the compromises Kubrick had to make was the initial script had obviously been more of an insufferable, which is something. That we would see late occur. Bricks films are very much on symbol paces, most of them with few exceptions like the shining, eyes wide shot and cloak orange, I suppose, but one of these stipulations was to get this Mateen needed a star. And then when Kirk Douglas expressed interest, it became clear that they will going to need to make it a stop bucle in real life Colonel docks. He made knowing that he wasn't comfortable with it, but ultimately stepped aside and let the executions go out putting much resistance. And that's not what we get in positive glory. Douglas, very strong enough, obviously positive glory, as we've said, was made with many restrictions that Kubrick just wouldn't face later, especially following his move to the UK and after doing Lalita, Dr Strangelove it was hugely dependent on a star. And that was part of the reason that it got the financing that got alternately even despite that it was more limited in budget than the majority of Kubrick's later woods. And it was released in within the studio system. So despite that reception that the killing had received the before. Still had very little clout. And obviously the further he going to his career. This changed is his name as I said, became the star, and he was given as you said, cop blanche to create his own vision with such few restrictions. And I think you can see a lot of the restrictions in positive glory in the construction of the story, especially, so it's, it's more linear than I think, anything he, he does he, he has very few asides. It's tighter than most Kubrick films that doesn't have those longshots someone comes in. They says what it says that need to say what. What they need to say. And then you move onto the next scene where another carrot becomes in and says, what I need to say Damian stepped out in allies of down. It's not meditative or contemplative like the majority of Kubrick's later films, the scene in this film that gets close to later Kubrick as we get the final scene with Christiaan. Yes. I mean look for me there are there are flashes throughout God. That's right. Kubrick's directing this film, the big one for me is the tracking of Douglas through the trenches which is so impressive that foreshadows the fluid tracking shots that Kubrick would later they would become his signature. But also, the oversized rooms that in inset pieces that make the actors puny the grandiosity of the court marshaled beautiful shot where the camera tracks Douglas is he's making his case. And in the foreground we get the backs of the three accused. There's some amazing set pieces in this film, and the so detailed, I mean, I remember watching, I don't know, if you watch that we've made it, it was a documentary Stanley Kubrick's boxes. And it was about the journalist who went to standing house. Founders boxes and boxes and boxes boxes of research his films. And one of them was for a dole on a building a red door on a building that was wide shot. And there was a whole box full of photographs and research about, what's the best kind of door. What's it gonna look like has it going to be positioned in the fronting thousands of fighter graphs of doors? Yes. So you know that's just one ended. Obviously, this is films to somewhere between half a decade to a decade and a half to get made later in life. His I think the gap between full metal jacket is wide shot the release of each of them was twelve years. And he'd been working on for a long time when he died, which is sadly, why we got so fury. Yes, it is. At the same time, if you take that away, I guess, the level of brilliance inherent in the films that we did, get would be less. Yeah. I would suffering quality fish oil. But I think the result of some of these changes some of these restrictions is that as of you a we have a we? Asked to invest list of our own thoughts on kind of ambiguous actions because there's not really too much ambiguity in the film like this, that for me is the biggest difference between positive Laurie. And the late majority of the direct is apple something like a clockwork orange where there is this just hyper violent gang of us you are still not necessarily asked to judge those people. So, you know, that's a really good example of the ambiguity being prison in a lighter Kubrick film, but not being present here. Yeah, I mean with the car, I think you probably do judge them because the, the violent scenes of so awful and so de glamorized under. That's not a word, but it's sort of what is it Michael hinted? Did with funny games the violence is a technique used to make the violence really exciting in visceral. It's sort of usually static shots. And that makes violence unbearable in a lot of flies. The thing with clockwork orange is that once he starts to become cured. He start to feel sympathy for him. And that makes you feel sick. So there is a lot of ambiguity in that film, in a lot of where am my supposed to place my emotions here. Whereas like you say pause glory. It's very clear. There's a very clear focus for me. I mean positive lorries really about clauses them. All right agree. I think that's the main thing that you take away from this from this movie is the class system, and also what that means for human life. Yeah. And Kubrick doesn't come in on the war itself until the very end seeing. I mean, we've gotta remember that this was a defensive war in our it wasn't something that America France asked for we had to go to war with Germany to protect out civil liberties and to protect our freedom. He never shows a single German soldier, which commented on quite quite frequently with this film. We only know that because the grenades and the bombs, keep falling near the trenches and many of speculated on why this is I think that it's because cubic doesn't want the foreign threat to distract us from the real villains of his story. Which are, of course, the high ranking officers represented by general relied and general Moreau. And I think he's criticism is very very specifically on the army itself. I agree with you. If you, if you show the Germans finding guys, France, that's war. If you show the French fighting against the French, that's a war crime. I mean, the outrage of the movie is so clear. You know, we have so many shots of the high-ranking officers, sitting in shadows, and discussing the day's casualties, whilst buttering this, while the low ranking soldiers are dying on command. Also, they can score another badge or another medal on these high ranking officers uniforms, that's, that's the price of their lives Coleman. On the MIT number medals on one of their jackets. At one point during the. Yeah. I liked this quote from Stanley Kubrick. He said, whoa, ax is kind of hothouse forced quick, breeding attitudes and feelings attitudes. Crystallise and come out in the open conflict is natural when it would in a less critical situation have to be introduced almost as contrived. Since and with us appeal forced or even west false. So cloth is looked at inside a situation as volatile as an armed forces in the act of war. You can that causes them become so extreme because it's not just about poverty, and other things that classism has to do with its life or death as we said, this is a wolf, but it's, it's definitely a political film, doesn't let those who run things and I'm talking about the troops, the war all the country of easily in his film. There's definitely judgment, given some of the charges levelled against those incharge include both crimes against humanity and war crimes injustice and fossil unfair trials and shameless, political bothering and gamesmanship, you know, for instance, shooting on one's own troops to get them to move out of the trenches and onto the battlefield was a war crime pigging soldiers randomly by executing them to sit. In example, was a crime against humanity. The court martial without appeal was an unfair trial where. In Justice prevailed, and the essential of those cold for all of these things was brought about by bothering and gamesmanship at the expense of others. Whether it be the, the lives the Creole the morals of the others or themselves. Even in the last couple of decades, it's become. It's, it's come to the full that some senior officers during world will one used executions, particularly of weaker Moore, unfit or even just shorter soldiers as a way of strengthening their own squadrons. So this is come out. I think it was two thousand and one that this came out so there's a lot that the film is unable to endorse upon. But what it does is pretty damning already. Many people have noted that generals during mobile were highly criticized postwar for being spectators, rather than soldiers and there's quite here from the journalism website scripts from the loft which at the film says they will well-fed and luxuriously housed that demanded the impossible, and seemed ready to accept massive losses for mono- gain. And this is really specifically and accurately represented when Moreau taught. So matter of factly to decks. About the percentages of troops. He will lose during the right on the ant hill casualty -ticipant say five percent killed by Homer is very generous allowance Tempus Borges man's land. Bog into the wire at leave sixty five percent the worst part of the job over. Say another twenty five percent in actually taking the anthill still for the voice more than adequate to hold it. Let sixty percent which is more than half. But at the same time, it's just a number and the quote is naturally, Michigan. I have to be killed, and it's really funny, when he says, I'll five percent. I'm being generous there who's being generous with these people's lives. I know that he doesn't mean generous in that sense. It's a funny word to use and who is alternately going to be responsible for that. Well, the fact that casualties will be head is not a foreign concept in war. I mean you go into a war, and you expect it that's going to be the case. There's going to be a certain percentage of people that killed. I'm sure there's people that behind the scenes they look at the numbers every time they make those decisions, especially these days because I would say a good loose. Sixty set of troops trying to do something today, it wouldn't happen. But then during our lifetime we haven't been in a war where land was stike in one of our countries or one of the countries that we get a huge. Man of news, or insight from so, you know, the k and the US and ustralia they haven't potentially lost land. They haven't been taken over by another country another people, which is what was happening in World, War One and World War, Two the walls these days. Yes, I think in the Middle East and, and in African nations, they do have that threat, potentially. There's mostly, I think religious insurgency, so that's as close as we get to these days. But certainly the things that happen in war now are different from what we're looking at onscreen when we want something like positive glory. The importance of defending a piece of land at the expense of lives is probably a little bit lost on us. Yeah. And also, you've got to think about, you know, the etiquette of war has changed. Yes. I mean Vietnam was the star of that, but certainly Iraq. It's sort of chaos. Whereas there was certainly a sense of orderliness in a sense of playing fair. On both sides, and that changes everything, but in the opening scene Moreau is saying that he is not going to put his in harm's way that he's not gonna let his ambition get in the way of he's ambition allow him to put men in danger needlessly in a hopeless situation. But of course within a couple of minutes of their talking. He is once he's once he's bribed by brew Lod with a high post, then suddenly, I guess, it's okay, I guess we can stolen the anthill. It's just very disturbing. And then when he goes and talks to Colonel dogs about it, and is talking about those percentages. It's the flippancy that's that's disturbing threats writers, little regard, is given to those human lives in the casual nature of that conversation, which makes it alarming. And in that Colonel doctors I seen when he he quotes Samuel Johnson about patriotism is, when we I get the sense that he is a little cynical on a little beaten down. And also has a bit of a repulsion with the hierarchical. Structure of the army that he isn't quite comfortable about it. These bit. Rogue patriotism, maybe old-fashioned patriot and I'll show you what I'm not everyone is always thought so Samuel Johnson. It's something else to say about patriot ten but was mainly. Nothing really reading important. Good. When I ask a question is always important now. Who was this man? Johnson. About patriotism. He said it was the last refuge of scowl sorry, nothing personal. Title dex anytime issue or exhausted, man. And it's my fault. I give it a one impossible task after another nudie rest badly either. As well as right now. I wanted a definite fellow Douglas plays this role really well because he knows that the numbers are not good. The chances are not good. But he's been given an order. And so he carries it out and he, he makes demands of his troops without being inhumane. Yeah. And that's, that's the difference between Colonel Dax Merola Birla one thing that doesn't it? I, I'd say ten minutes of this film is really comment on the absurdity of being at war almost like he's trying to give the characters an excuse for their behavior later on, especially when Moore is walking through the trenches and is talking to those men's like, are you ready to kill some Germany, and it's like a pep to ordinary asked the same question to four or five different troops three? And I thought it was a little too, neat that the three that he talks to happen to be the three that go on trial. I liked during that sequence. The guy who was suffering from show. Shock. I thought that was really interesting. Yeah. Standing next to him is the guy that drew the stroll and he's the one that explains to Murray. He shall. Yeah. That was terribly sad. Ready to kill them. All germans. It is everything. Alright soldier. All right. Yes, sir. I'm right. Are you married soldier married? He married. Have you got a wife or wife? He's a bit shell shocked. I beg your pardon sergeant. There's no such thing as. Wife soldier, my wife. His wife never gonna sear again. Could be on yourself your college. I want you to arrange for the immediate transfer of this baby of my regiment. I won't brave. Men, contaminated. I am. Yes, sir. Harry owns hundred. You're right, sir. Constructed isn't check. It was an interesting. Inclusion, I don't think I've seen in the movie before then I watch a lot of war movies. Well, he's shop denier, which is a very interesting thing I suppose, maybe in nineteen sixteen that was credible. But watching it today. It's just totally incredible. He wouldn't believe in response, there, Moreau's response, there is inhumane in the opening scenes. We see that happen. And I think it is second conversation. He asked the French soldier if he's ready to kill some Germans, and then a bomb or grenade goes off. And this just this brief pause. And then the conversation carries on normally, so it's perfect illustration of the psychological environment that these men are in. I think it was really interesting as well that as Moreau is going through the trenches, asking, these questions he ducks and covers more than any of the troops. That's right. And I thought that was really interesting visually for Kubrick to put that in at that, that self is I comment on the role of generals during. The world during World War, One and of him in particular, Moreau in particular. I think that ACTA. I think that actually had that scar I don't think that was my Cup run. I could be wrong, but anyway, either way it works as an interesting way to say this guy did at some point, go to combat will have combat. At least that would be the inference you would make. But it's been soiling ago and you know now he's used to essentially being a paper pusher. And you're ri- when he ducks and everything it kind of denotes he's inexperienced compared with the troops, who are in the very going to be tried for cowardice, though, stand still while the bombs falling around them while he ducks and covers and then tries them for care. What us later on, it's a huge irony. The major injustice in positive glory. It doesn't come from the loss of law after the right on the ant hill. But rather the decisions that might before and the decisions that often by the generals that they pursued a plan with minimal chance of success, and then doubled down when it went bad and look for scapegoats and found them and killed them awfully. Sort of thing is always rather grim. But this one had a kind of splendor to it. Don't you think I have never seen into this sort andled any better? No men died wonderfully. There's always that chance at one of them will do something to believe everyone the bad taste this time. It could NAS what better? Kubrick would continue his anti wool message in two more films, the farcical, Dr Strangelove just a few years later, and again, in the eighties with full metal jacket and we're going to talk about for metal jacket a little bit later. But Luke, how do you think cook? Douglas was used in this film. I loved him in it. I fell in love with him. Would you fall in love with him? And he had his shirt off. Well, I read that he had in his contract that every movie had to include a shit. Let's say. But I think that's actually interesting because the first time that we see him he has his shirt off, and I don't think he's particularly sexualize in that same sexualize. But he's very sexy. I suppose. Yeah. But for me, he almost looks more like a living piece of artillery. On a doughnut. So a pretty boy. And so, you know, initially in the movie he acts, like a bit of a machine that follows his orders with just a few inconspicuous jibes threatening hero there, which are almost like a winks to us the audience. But then when he puts on the former where to defend the three accused so misters if the change of wardrobe ashes in another side of his character that we haven't seen he becomes very principled very heroic. He's almost like an Abacus Finch type character. And we discover that, that physical Braun is matched by this intellectualism, and this real strength of the courage of his convictions, before he joined the army, who was a lawyer. Yeah. And Douglas is such a good actor that he makes that transition seamless. We never feel like these characters suddenly switch gears changed. It was all there in the start. But as the film, you know, the, the drama of the story of he then is able to kind of show us all of what he is. And I think he doesn't beautifully. Apparently there was. A lot of criticism about his performance that he was a little over expressive all that. Oh, it becomes a Kirk Douglas movie. I think that was probably something that was probably labeled to Douglas throughout that period. Well, I think he's the best performance in the film. I would agree. And he has the most to do, and he's the most likeable character. I think I think he's given some a bit of a run for his money. I think Timothy Carey as one of the accused soldiers is really brilliant as well. Who's that? He's the toll one who's crying. He's a social misfit. Yeah. And I think he's remarkable in this film as well. I think everybody is great. There was only one moment of acting that I really didn't like or I think is outdated. Do you know what I'm talking about? It's Ralph meeker. And I think he's great, generally. But you know there's a way he is saying something, and then he just breaks down and falls down on his knees. And for me that piece of acting just didn't hold up. But everything else he does. I think is perfect his character is so beautiful. And I think of the. Three he's the one for me that stands out. He certainly I think, has a lot more screen time. And also the reason he ends up. There is so tragic, you know, one of them drew straws, which is tragic in self the other one ended up there, because he was the one that I guess, was the black sheep of that his his unit, but he ended up there so that Lieutenant cooed essentially tied up loose ends. That is really horrifying. Slaves. You were and slaves you remain. But the terrible penalty of crucifixion has been set aside on the single condition that you identify the body or the living person of the slave project us. Sime spot. Spartacus. Spartacus spartak. I'm spun. The only way that Cooper can producer, James Harris could get cut Douglas to agree to star in positive glory was, if they signed a deal with his production company, Brian productions and it was a pretty shady deal. It gave Douglas first refusal on the next five Kubrick projects. However, threes off, depository, Kirk Douglas fire direct. Anthony man from the film spot icus, because they went jiving, and he needed a direct to stop to step in immediately to save the production and Kubrick came in as a favor to Douglas and as a thank you. He released him from that stipulation in the if it hadn't been spotted est the next five Kubrick films would've been lowly to Dr Strangelove, two thousand one space odyssey, a clockwork orange and Linden all they wouldn't have existed. I don't think under the under the terms of this contract. And it was partly Spartak us that caused bricks transition, his moved to England which made a lot of those films possible in the way made anyway. Yeah. So fight to Tocchet for chewers, turn their amazing. Five movies. That is ridiculous. It's like signing a record contract back in the eighties owned you for twenty years. Yeah it's pretty harsh. So as I said before positive glory, and spot, icus, took Douglas, was the star and he needed to stop. He wasn't the name, but obviously after that he would become the name. He's still used a lot of disease, George C Scott, Dr Strangelove inject Newson in shawnee, and Tom Cruise in the coal Kidman in wide shot. So he still had these lists in all of these films, director is bigger than the cast, and I think the stars hope commercialize the content which was always commercially nature. But you still get the overwhelming feeling that just pawns inclu breathes vision. Well, I think these stars, the ones you've mentioned were clever enough to know that all I've been asked to be a Kubrick film. This is not just about being good for my career. This is about being part of something that will be able to a piece of art and as a result, they probably shed all of their stab shit. And just came in as genuine actors wanting to give Kubrick everything he wanted. That's right. I mean, the actors later on they would we'd could break because I wanted to work with one of the greatest living directors, and I feel like you work with, because a lot of people do with the great director, or they gonna do stage play or something. But add some kind of air of authenticity to that Korea. Yeah. And working through break. I mean you can't get much bigger than that throughout sued him history. You can't get much bigger than that this so few examples of actors working with Kubrick because he made so few films. All of them so, well, regarded, you know, looking back, I mean, it's remarkable that you acted in a Hitchcock movie as one of Hitchcock's leading ladies not you personally looked, but that that's remarkable that happened. But at the same time, there's so many examples of that at the time was making films. He wasn't regarded as a God is a great filmmaker but not as genius Kubrick was known to be. Genius at the time he was making these films. So it would have been very different signing onto a Kubrick film in eighty four or ninety two or two thousand would have just been a very different thing than it would have Sonning onto a Hitchcock film in the forties. And fifties Klay site quickly that one of my favorite until you one of my favorite lines from possible Laurie. I love when ducks is to lot. I may be many things, sir. But I am not your boy and says, well, I certainly didn't mean to imply biological relations. I actually does the point during the film that I lost. Actually, it was completely field, but it was hilarious that. Doc. What do you do? You think that is? I mean obviously relied is not confused about Dax actually, meaning that he's trying to I think deflect. What brewlights what Dax is actually saying he's being smart ass. He's being a smart ass, but he's also trying to say, you know, whatever you're talking about is not important to me. I'm going to make light of it because I don't need to listen to this, his one in the whole movie is dismissive. And I mean, some of the things that he says outrageous. And there's one point where duck says, do you really believe everything you just said to me, because it just gets those things, there's nothing more stimulating than watching a matter at dawn, you said that you might have a problem with the French names, I found incredibly oakwood that it was a story about a French division of the army, and that they will also American, it reminded me actually Valkyrie remember that Bryan singer film that came out look off my not exactly those Tom Cruise played a not see, but it was a Nazi with an American accent on American attitude. I mean something like positive glory, which is a tremendous film. But it is a story of. French soldiers told in English with American references. And there's a problem in that. But at that kind of acceptance of something like that leads to absolute abortions of movies, like, Valkyrie, where before your, very eyes they switch from German to English in the middle of a sentence, but then not only that, but they proceed to talk in whatever accent, the act to talk in rather than, putting on a German accent in speaking English, which okay? Still not great, but you can understand why coming from, but then to speak in an American accent playing German character. I mean you on would for a long time in videos, Stolz, and the number of people who came in, and they returned a movie that was not in English because they didn't want to read it. Right. And that was one of my biggest pet peeves of that of working, there was that people were unwilling to open their minds to something that was potentially great just because they went used to it. I think if you're film fan, that's one of the things you learn not only about film, but about other forms of our think if you're a film fan, and you encounter, a foreign film or a film. That's not in your native language that blows you away your changed forever. But you need to be willing to do that. First of all, it's not uncommon in American films to change the language that's being spoken if it's about if the. Stories about a different culture. It's obviously more difficult for non English film to find an audience in America. That's a fact but I haven't aversion to these things for a few reasons firstly and former host. I don't mind reading subtitles. So that doesn't turn me off at all. In fact, half of the time that I watch a movie at home. I put the subtitles on anyway, just so I don't miss any dialogue. There's plenty of people who are like that, though. And will actively avoid a movie because it has subtitles. Secondly, I believe that films, such as this one benefit greatly from increased authenticity. French soldiers speaking English is not authentic frame soldiers quoting Samuel Johnson. The English poet is not authentic, especially when they're this countless remarkable compatriots, who were in the same fields, for instance, author imbo, and Charles Baudelaire for me, telling this story in English with false, references depletes from that authenticity. And I think it's a pretty simple fix. If you switch the screenplay up further than what could Rick and Harrity did until it from an English perspective, which is a story of English troops in similar circumstances. And make it clear that these kinds of things happened in World War One but not noting any specifics about country, so not saying, okay, this is a story that happened in France. So we need to tell us about French soldiers teller, the bed, English soldiers you, eliminate that issue and then it becomes creative license, and it's easier to stomach. Yeah, I agree. I just I found it very distracting. I mean, you eventually get caught up in the story and that's fine just on subtitles. I think some people you know, there are times on it feel like or tired. I just wanna watch on film, where they're speaking my language, but you don't feel like that your entire life. No. Of course, not like my favourite film of all time is French. And I love what chain foreign films. But, but, you know some people just don't and that's fun. That's okay. There would have been ways around this without going, the, the route of making them French, you know, if you wanna make them American. That's fun. This film was actually set before the US joined the War, I think a year before. So, okay. Change the year. That's not an excuse to do an all of those changes, if you do that. And you just tell I general story about something that's happened during the war. But you don't try to tell. Incident that then as I say that is creative law since, that's a that's a, that's a change that you can accept. Well, this is sort of a case of kind of historical kidnapping. You know, you you're taking some of France's his stream, and you're telling the story you're making them look terrible, by the way, and you're doing it without considering any of the cultural nuances, and history, city and traditions of that nationality of people that you will portraying in this film. If it was made today, it would be a conversation. It would make people upset they got away with it because this was nineteen fifty seven that's why they got away with a and today we make excuses which isn't the same year that I think Mickey Rooney play the Asian. Well, that was, I think several years later like maybe five features later. It is a case of kind of cultural hijacking and it's not particularly comfortable. It's soy odd that they would be brew Lod, and Moreau's walking around in our Hello. How are you? They sound like you know, Smith's and Bordon's and Russell's it is a problem. The big problem for me is the Samuel jump Johnson reference. Yes. Although I do like the quote, that's fine. I mean, I understand that I understand that they put it in there, because the court was so significant it meant something. But you mean nothing really reading important when I ask a question is always important. Now what was his man Johnson? What did he have to say about patriotism? He said it was. He said it was the last refuge of a scout looser. Sorry, personal that quote, actually made me think of a question that I wanted to ask you on air. Do you make certain assumptions of people? We've just recently had a strategy here, by the way, folks, Australia, and caused a heap of controversy because it's actually a day where that was celebrating where we essentially annihilated Virginie's those held on January twenty years with the first fleet landed industry Leah, and it's the indication that is the that is the day that the process of exterminating. Exterminating indigenous people started. There were a lot of protest rallies, and a lot of discussion on social media about, is it really okay? That we celebrate this day, and everybody has a different opinion. I don't think it's particularly great. We celebrate that day. I'm not patriotic. In fact, I'm quite embarrassed by stralia certainly politically. I'm terribly embarrassed by stray Leah and history of what we've done to the indigenous people makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable. And I do have. White guilt about that. But do you make certain assumptions of people who who tack on stralia flags on their cause or to their homes? Do you make any assumptions about the kind of people that do that are have I might grade or sumptious about people who get Southern Cross tattoos? I think the worst breed of people in the world, okay? But back to my question because I know I've never seen an flag pin to your balcony in Europe. That's a that's a very American thing at the moment isn't as well. You rarely go around the streets in a stroller and see trillion flags standing in the somebody's front young. I was so surprised. But how many I've seen around the Shirley day? Yeah, but you don't say them all the time. Do I might certain assumptions of people? Probably. Yes. And what are they supposed to make an assumption of someone with flag, probably assume that they are unable dicator about not just on educating general that's supposed to -bility? But uneducated about some of the things that have allowed us to live the way that we do in this country, which means the treatment of the digits people's the first peoples and the not only is there a lack of education about that, but there is an unwillingness to accept that the way we descended from the people that we descended from with the coals of that. And therefore there should be some give that we feel. Well, I feel a little uncomfortable saying this in a. Public platform, but I make certain assumptions if I'm honest assumptions that these people are unintelligent and possibly racist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And racism exists in so many different forms. But I think not accepting that is things that have happened in the past that have what doubt people not, not, not only not accepting it, but not admitting and not going this is wrong. Yeah. I think that is a form of racism. Well, I just question where that feeling of pride comes from. I mean you proud that your ancestors, murdered people, and then claimed stake to this land, you'll proud of murder and annexing people from their homes. I'm not proud of that. I'm not proud about how I got to this country. I feel very insecure about it. Very sad about it as one person. I feel like there's very little I can do it happened a long time ago about the affects of it are in my current. They're in my line of sight, everywhere. I look I can see the effects of what happened and it does make me feel very ashamed to be an astray. Leeann do you feel any kind of nationalism when you hear something that is a stray leeann, but not necessarily about the people. So, for instance, I love the verses of the poem my country, which is I love a sunburnt country land of sweeping plains of ragged mountain ranges of droughts, and flooding rains love her our horizons love, her jalousie who abused him her terror. The wide Brown land to me, which is a poem about a stray Leah and that evokes beautiful feelings and and visions of war ustralia as I land is like, and, and you can look at that with while removing all of the people from that land and say, yeah, there is there of I mean, right now, there are a huge heat wave across the southern southern states Strayer in this Bush fires threat. Mania and then there are huge floods and things in northern Queensland, which is a few hundred kilometers away. So astray Lya has all of these kinds of wild weather, and that is something that it makes you proud. The ustralia has so much diversity in its land. I can see why we stole it. That's horrible. It's very pretty. Yes, it is. But no. I don't I don't know that I necessarily proud I feel grateful that I'm here in this country wouldn't want to be in America right now. You know, and I wouldn't want to be in India. I wouldn't want to be in Somalia, because I think that life Aries is harder. But, but no pride isn't really something that I feel, but definitely think the stroller is beautiful, and that I'm, I'm very lucky proud Noye pride isn't something. I so see eight with my where I am. Let's say you were dating someone that you just gotten to know somebody, and I pulled off their shit. And I had a Southern Cross tattoo on that chest to be a dealbreaker. It would be a dealbreaker. Yeah. I actually have a partner who isn't from stralia and is from Singapore originally. And he loves the straight. The thinks is beautiful, but he's very hurt by things that he reads about Muslims, and people pulling Hansen, who gained so much traction. And, you know, right now, Scott Morrison is making the boat people. The big issue and really stuff like that makes you feel like absolutely nothing has changed that the same men who were hanging aborigines on trees, a still running things I rise to speak about the problems of immigration from Islamic countries Australia is one of four settler countries. The others New Zealand Canada and the United States immigrants to ustralia have enriched, our society. We know that Islam it countries are organized very differently, and that people from these countries hope different beliefs on a quality between the sexes homosexuality and the role of religion in society. This is a historic moment by bringing this matter into the parliament. My party is throwing open the debate on banning or at the very least greatly reducing migration of such people to strategy. The want people from England took the country by force killed a lot of people, I think the fact that some indigenous people never left or reclaimed remote areas, that the white Australian government refuses to send 'electricity water too. I think that's crime, the there, exist, people who just want to live in, in the land completely not harming anybody. But on their original land, which is probably something that I own now based on the number of court cases since Mabo in the early nineties, but the government that got them into this mess refuses to subsidize them with the basic human necessity as they are today. We have gotten so topic we have. So let's move back and let's talk a little bit about full metal jackets. You will only one spoken to and the first last words out of your filthy. We'll be certain. They you maggots understand that. You'll be a weapon you will be. Now, I will admit I'm watched full middle decade years. I remember it distinctly as a film of two Hobbs, as I think, anybody, does, even if they love the film, they remembered as the film to Hobbs, and I remembered as the first half being obsolete ripping and terrifying, and so interesting. So riveting and the second half lacking a little bit. I think it's still pretty spectacular taking by itself. The second half after that first half, I don't think Kubrick did himself a service by putting those two halves together. Because I feel like the first half and your kind of response to that it takes a little getting over. Yeah. I mean, look, it was fascinating watching bricks to film side by side. If you didn't know that they will both Kubrick films, you would never guess that will made by the same person. You know, the just the evolution is so extreme positive glory every scene in that pushes the narrative forward in a very economical way. It's an extremely lean film. It is. I mean I'm shocked that they could. Tell that story in eighty six minutes, eighty seven minutes stored Inari like extraordinarily focused writing and storytelling in positive glory, full metal jacket breathes, much more in the scenes created town in a feeling for the period and place in which the film is set, not everything has a very specific purpose in the way that Paul's glory does. I think the first half full metal jacket is more easily compared with positive glory, because it is also a criticism of the internal structures. And philosophies of the armed forces. The second half is very much about the violent chaos in the meaninglessness of the war in Vietnam, and the second half of the movie could almost be more easily compared to the lost five minutes of positive glory, where Kubrick, finally addresses the issue of war, self, one important difference. Is that full metal jacket somewhat glamorizes wolof whilst being a critique of it positive? Laurie Kombi accused of that. There's no glamour in what you say impulsive glory. It. Doesn't have that essential hypocrisy that sort of ease in the mix of full metal jacket. I think with regard to what you're saying about the to Hobbs situation once you've seen for metal jacket, and you are prepared for the impact of that, saying that comes, which is the end of that, first half, you appreciate the second off more, because you vividly, remember the scene, I'm talking about in the bathroom. You know, once you've seen it, you do not forget it. You know, so vividly, so remarkable. And that first half of that movie is a movie in itself, and the second half unfortunate. I think it compares as favorably to a lot of other great war films, that were coming out eighties, and other know if you remember much about the second half of the film, not specifics. So there's a character in the second half that sort of an antagonistic to what's his name moving. He's very brutal very hard on has kind of lost. His humanity is really caught up in the gamesmanship of war, and I was watching with my mom and she turned to me, and you said he's. Like, what that boy would have been like if he'd survived till most like his ghost, his come back, his life had gone, a different way. And I was so struck by that thought I thought, wow, that's a really impressive inside. Why is mum not involved in this episode of the podcast? I know could've could've been good. Just invite all the family members on month after month. The second half. Full metal jacket really did hit me hard, this second time that I watched it because I'd kind of let go of all the fist house. Great second off his middling full metal jacket don't wanna spoil it. But it ends in a similar way a similar moment. Transitional moment of horror of outta Hora, and the actually hit me pretty hard because I was prepared for the fact that I was there. This is slightly on even film and the first half has a stronger emotional pull than the second. And because of that I was able to enjoy and appreciate it on, on much deeper level than I ever have before we talk about how positive glory ranks against the other Kubrick works. Let's talk quickly about his wife respond. She's obviously, the final sequence of this film, and she plays a captured German go. She's taken from her village, and she's forced on stage in front of some troops, who enjoying some downtown and forced to perform to sing. She has vocal cords of gold or something. He says this scene really talks about him the humanity that you losing more and anti will films are generally about the stripping of humanity in some form, whether the transition of another wise, good, man, or woman towards morality or the lack of value placed on human life as a whole, and we little bit of both of these things, impove positive Dory. The high ranked officers obviously become a moral seeking only to protect the positions, and truly interesting moralistic acts, which is Colonel Dax telling relied that Moreau ordered his artillery mental fire on their own. Countrymen is seen as a move for the general's position rather than a plea for Justice to be served in those actions never to occur again. The world becomes warped, the more US end. That's so dark we know that. That's not the reason doctors down. No and anti actively fights against that charge in the movie. Yes. So, well, he he's offered it and says. No, you fuck the court martial same, where Colonel Dax tries to put into evidence. The award. That somebody has won for bravery, and he gets told the accused is not being tried for his former bravery, but his recent cowardice only objections that court martial as so frustrating. So it's really easy to see how a man would succumb to major changes of character under these grimaced I most hints of situations and many men, do which is demonstrated by the troops at the end of the film that given this reprieve from battle when the German girl comes to sing for them. But instead of enjoying a show that will whistle. They shout. They laugh they demand that she essentially entertain them. So you got the impression that I would really love. And she takes close off. There's a website called film, Fisher nice state in the excellent dissection of the sequence that tragedy becomes comedy and it's really difficult to watch. So it really could have left it there and offered no statement on these men prior to that trials and tribulations, but that would have made his point. Instead, the go begin singing in German, which is a language that one of the troops yells talk in a civilized. Language in reply to and the Minnesota Unst. And then now thinking of that use their imagine their own wives daughters. Mothers that sisters having a personal reaction there, acknowledging that this could be one of those people in their lives. If the circumstances were only slightly different and tears begin to flow and therefore, that humanity is restored, which is a site that even war as a moral as it can be Kanawha strip, a good man of his basic principles, and there's another, quote, from film, Fisher here and provide a link to that scene anatomy in the show notes, the song has begin begun to pacify them in, and so the frenetic pace of the editing slows as the goes of the men, moved from analogy to contemplation, as the audience, we may have judged men as harshly, and brutally as initially judged girl. I think it's great that it's music because music is an obstruction that targets Ramoche Ines and it transcends differences of creed, and color, and rice, the men don't recognize. The translation of lyrics, but they recognize the tune and they can home along to that chain and the feeling lives in the melody, not in the lyrics. So that's the common ground how the music moves them and it's the perfect metaphor for how in the end where just people, and we're all connected by our humanity and by Ramoche, inal lives. And that Kubrick makes that point through music without dialogue is so touching. It's so stirring, I think the scene is alternately devastating because of its implications. The subtext is that even this snapshot of unification, it's not gonna change anything. It's gonna wear off, and then life will go back to death, which is what these people are going through. And we know that death is in the future of most of the troops and moist lightly ripe and death is in the future of this captured woman, and so does a heaviness to it, and that Kubrick's avert that expectation with this moment of unification, and warmth is another. Stroke of genius about the ending of that film. I also love that Kirk Douglas sees at happening, and that he. You know, you almost expect that it's going to be a moment for him of, of something. But it's no. He just kind of walked off and goes into building. But he does he does really beautifully. He's being given the order to return to the front lines and he says gives them a few moments but he doesn't walk out on his post he's going to continue to be a corporal. He's going to continue to, to lead. His men are mean, he knows that he can do great things in that system, I think, than out of it, because he's going to be replaced by somebody who's gonna tow the line who's going to do. Exactly, what's his happily going to give up his own troops to try to get the general's position on a -sarily? But that's I guess, an implication taxes is so much like a typical Ricard during that it is always a one man trying to take on the immoral world or a system that is so much greater than him Kubrick is so drawn to these David, and Goliath type stories except because it's a Kubrick film. Goliath, always wins. You're offering me general Muros command. Come come Colonel. Don't overdo the surprise. You've been after the job for the start. We all know that my born. I'm not sure I simply didn't meet we play by leg relationship in any. Boy in rugby. Why should I wanna do that would be a pity your promote before you're getting a promotion? You have so very carefully planned for. So would you like me to suggest what you can do with that promotion? Dula pundits are based on the wrist. For not being entirely honest with you. For not revealing my true. Feelings. I apologize for not telling you sooner that you're a gentleman. So this goal and you've been go to hell before I apologize that you our ever again. Rivers point to me. Spoil the keenness remind by wallowing sediment Teleki. You really did want to save those men and you were not angling for Muros command, your idealist, pity, you what the village idiot. Do you rank positive Laurie amongst Kubrick's work? Well, I think it's one of his best films that I've seen I haven't seen as many Kubrick films as should have in two thousand and one is the most ridiculous one that I have at the same. But also, I haven't seen very Linden, and I haven't seen the killing and Lalita and saying that, yeah, it's a very different experience from watching light AKU brick. It is different. It feels almost like you can't write them together. But you kind of have to if you're going to write them, you need to write them in some kind of order parts of glory is a great film, in the way that twelve angry men is a great film, from that era, the shining and even Dr Strangelove, they for me belong to kind of new Hollywood. And I judge them in different terms. Yeah. Look, I think positive gory is fantastic as well. Nothing it ranks really well, alongside his his later, works, even if it's just as a kind of curiosity in an auditor, things still think it hasn't. Emotional on us define response from the viewer it elicits that and that's something that Kubrick always elicited from the viewer. You know, I still prefer couple of others. Definitely per fifty thousand a month space seeing Dr Strangelove to this, but it'd probably place in the next year for me, which is with talk with orange and the shining could be my third favorite of zooms could be v. Also for me. I think the shining is a bigger film, in my mind then piles of glory. But I mean it's it really is. You're right emotionally, it's definitely one of his most his strongest films, and as I that's not something that you get from a load of lighter. Aku break in the same way. And I look, I think all together, it's a better film, full metal jacket, but I still think full metal jacket is a phenomenal movie. Yeah. Do you wanna let us know? How did it the when it was released show? Well, it premiered in Munich on the festive fifty seven and it was released in the US on Christmas day a week off to the bridge on the River Kwai, which would ultimately win best picture that year. It grows two point five million by nine hundred fifty nine against it's nine hundred thousand dollar budget. So not the financial failure that many have written. It was reviews at the time, acknowledged the film's impact, although few hailed as a masterpiece variety label that Stockley really stick the Saturday, review called it unquestionably. The finest American film of the Bosley Crowther. Acknowledged the film was a Frank of owl of agonizing uncompensated injustice that is pursued to the bitter end, but wrote that you left for the feeling that you've been witness to nothing more than a horribly freakish incident, the New York herald called it a good hard movie powerful in design execution. Pulling cow didn't review the film, but she mentioned in her Cy only leader. She said. Pause of glory is a simple minded pacifist film, but Kubrick gives it nervous rhythm and a sense of urgency, Francoist refine manage to see the film in nineteen fifty eight spot living in France at the time and reviewed it favorably, although he rated the villains lap, psychological credibility. He felt that the mood evasion of just pure and Bishen was a little too one dimensional, and I kind of agree with that he described doctors advance toward the ant hill is the best scene and wrote positive lorries important film that establishes the talent and energy of new American direct of perhaps, the best review came from Winston Churchill remarked that the battle scenes where the most vindicate the same in two thousand five Ebert wrote the positive glory was the film by which Stanley Kubrick into the ranks of great directors evidently, and that it is one of the few narrative films in which he sense, the anger. In the telling that was very jury in the same essay, he recalls interviewing Kirk Douglas who told him that picture will always be good years from now I don't have to. Fifty years to know what I know what the film was nominated for best film at the baffles. And at one, the silver ribbon for best foreign film in Italy. But it fell to drum up awards buzz in the US in nineteen Ninety-two as you said, it was selected for preservation in the United States, film registry. And you can read more of Winston, Churchill's, film reviews on Winston Churchill Doppler. Let me but still quiz. Okay. Okay. I'll ask you a question. I k sure at mingy who portrayed general brew, Lodhi positive. Laurie. Also starred in a star is born which version, did he star in the Judy Garland vision. No, donate thirty seven vision starring Janet Gaynor and Fredric March. Okay in the book, what was the ant hill called the pimple? Which famous stylistic and take nickel choice. Dig Kubrick, I use in pods of Laurie. The steady Cam, yes, most visibly, he, he used that reverse Dolly tracking shots while I get that point two in nineteen Fifty-nine cubs novel was turned into an ill received play by Sydney who was written by Sidney Howard. And he was the main contributor to which epic, that was released the same year gone with the wind. Yes. Oh, okay. Similar question is not about positive glory. But actor Timothy Carey portrayed one of the three mushroom soldiers in positive glory, but was fired from the project mid shoot. He was fired from another famous film, in the seventies by another of cinemas, great directors. What was it goodness? I have no idea. I will tell you. He had also been offered a role in the godfather by Francis Ford, Coppola, and the godfather part, too. But he. Turned those down, and then he was subsequently fired from another kluber another couple of film. Apocalypse Now, got to give you the hints in the world. It was the conversation. He was fired the after the first day of shooting. It does. He says that he quit and reports that he was fired. That's funny. But he was fired bit by three parts of glory, and some of the sequences some of the things with him in there and not him. Really? Yeah. Very difficult. I did read that kept coming. He fought with a lot of directors. Interesting. What did Humphry called think of Kubrick's uptake of the novel loved it? No, he died in nineteen forty. Trick question you dirty bird. I've asked you three questions and I've asked you three. So we both taught I think you one could you to, and I got one brecca let's roll with it. Yeah. How many stars do you give positive glory, five? Yeah, I watched it. And I told you, I gave it five but I actually gave it four and a half. And I was going to go back and give it four and a half. If I had given it five sons stick with four and a half. Yeah. I look Miami real problem with it is the probably which came up at the very end of the podcast, the one dimensional nature of the villains they just irredeemably awful, and that's probably not as explored as it should have been. But I think as a piece of emotional cinema as a piece of compelling lean beautifully made cinema. You really can't fault it. I think the problem we've four people like who break and hitch, Kalkin coupler, is that you write them against themselves. And so a film that by any other director would be an absolute masterpiece is less or lesser because of the other words of this director, and so, you say, hasn't attained, quote, those standards, that he achieved with doctor strange level. Two thousand and one and therefore I can't rate at five stars. Maybe I'm falling victim to that four and a half is nothing to sneeze at thank you so much all for joining us on the of glory. Luke, what are we going to be looking at next month? We'll have been airing and doing, but I finally decided that we're going to be looking at George Stevens nineteen fifty six epic drama, giant, fifty nine fifty seven this month, ninety six yes they living in another. Habit. Nanny. When she. Two. The. Jeez.

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Meet The Author - Robert Rosen - Bobby in Naziland: A Tale Of Flatbush

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Meet The Author - Robert Rosen - Bobby in Naziland: A Tale Of Flatbush

"Nazi's brooklyn to beatles adult entertainment. We'll talk about all that and more on this episode of the mind. tv pot. welcome. I yet another episode of the mind. Dog tv podcast napa. Thanks for coming. It's great to have you here as always looks like we're still having a little bit of screen streaming problems if you've missed me for a couple of days Why appreciate you missing me. 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Where he's from a born and bred in brooklyn. He's also a guy who's written a book on john lennon. Which as you know me. I'm very You ge- fan of john lennon. His wife is latest. Book is called bobby and not selena tale of flatbush. It's a memoir about growing up in brooklyn in the nineteen fifties sixties surrounded by what survivors end world war two vets. His investigative memoir beaver street. A history of modern pornography received critical acclaim across the cultural spectrum from vanity fair to academic journals to adult video news All over the course of his career. He's edited pornographic magazines in an underground newspaper written speeches for a secretary of the air force and awarded a ugo boss poetry prize. Ladies and gentlemen. Please open your ears. Open your minds and helped me. Welcome in robert rosen. Remind on tv podcast traffic. Welcome how are you okay. That was some introduction. You do a really good commercial for me. And the bookie back you Are you still in brooklyn. No i'm in manhattan across the river. Many decades ago now mo- moved up town You know. I think a lot of people don't realize that guys like you re my brothers your eight born in nineteen fifty two as well and grew up in brooklyn. A lot of people don't realize how much were still lingered in that period where you would just a small kid growing up brooklyn. And how a lot of that crap from the war on nazism in all all that kind of stuff and l. melting pot the brooklyn. They don't realize that you know there was a lot of still. I don't want to call attention but a lot of awareness of Who who side you are on and all that kind of stuff and carried over Tell people about the experience of growing up next to auschwitz survivors in world war two vets and a bunch of anti-semites semite sue because There were there was a bit of that growing up in brooklyn as well right. No not really antisemitism. People kept to themselves but the way you described it is pretty good that the reason the book is called bobby in nazi land is because at that time from i became conscious of things in the mid nineteen fifties. And from that point on that when you become conscious of what's going on around you everybody's talking about the nazis is see the numbers on the people's arms We're surrounded by world war veterans and auschwitz survivors. And the al schwartz survivors. Didn't talk but the people who knew what happened to the auschwitz survivors fake talked. And and that's what you that's what you heard about and the book impart talks about. How a foyer. Role consciousness against to absorb this information. And what he makes it right. I remember being And i i was born in fifty nine. So i'm a little bit Removed from from that and i. My parents moved out to long island so a little bit removed from that. But i remember it being for your old when we played war we it was us against the germans and all that stuff so we were very very aware of world war. Two not exactly a very protected long island where i was. We weren't we didn't know about concentration camps in anything till i got into high school and started reading about it on my didn't know any anything about that stuff as a young child Tell me about the affected learning about that stuff had on five or six year old I think and i talk about this in the book that between the auschwitz survivors never set anything. The world war two veterans. Who would talk and the people married to the world. War two veterans and the people who just knew what happened and you saw it on. Tv so the newsreels of the concentration camps on tv and the eichmann trial eichmann was captured. Nine hundred sixty one i think. And the whole world every a my whole world. All flash is riveted by the eichmann trial which is on tv every night. And it's just as constant flow of information about the nazis and the camp the camps. And i think that the whole neighborhood was under was suffering from traumatic stress post traumatic stress disorder. I can call it that yet but and nobody but the way the people act that there was a lot of hatred going around. You know hatred not without reason but you know like when they caught aikman they just wanted to throw them in a furnace alive or something like that you know. Let's do to him what he did to the jews and it all has a psychologically scarring effect on the children. It was you know. Choose against catholics at everybody against germans and everybody's beating everybody up and nobody knows why they're we but it's post traumatic stress disorder. In retrospect all these people had it my. My father had it His his his veteran buddies at it. I had it. Because you know. I'm just constantly exposed to the hatred and bad vibes and the trauma that the veterans are going through because of the things they did and they saw which they never talk about. Then you had. That book published the rise and fall of the of the third reich. I started reading that insert grade and they had these very vivid descriptions of what happened in concentration camps. And again. I talk about that in the book what it was like to be like you know eight years old and reading in in detail how the germans gas people so yeah. That's what it was like. Wow and that's what i was exposed to. And obviously it's got it's got to affect your overall psyche as a kid that kind of stuff because it was so dark and so You know today we take for granted that thing about shocking things so it's harder to shock us but those times that was truly like Man's inhumanity against man Exemplified in a way that really shocked people so it had to affect the way you grew up in in Came to you know to into being an adult The still carry the scars from from that experience. I think to one degree you do carry it. But what i think happened was once i finally left set environment I buried it. I just. I didn't think about it for a long time. And it was only maybe ten years ago in my late fifty sixty years old when i started thinking about it again and It all started coming back and you know. That's how bobby in nazi land came about that. I knew there was something going on there. Just hit me one day. There's something going on there in that neighborhood. At that time that i had to explore in more detail. I didn't know what it was. And i started writing down everything i could think of. That happened in that time. And in that place and i was just like writing and writing and writing for a couple of years really just the bore. I remembered the more. I remember and then finally after i had like four hundred single space pages piled up. I said i better take a look at this. Started going through it. And what jumped out on at me. Were nazis that. I did not realize how prevalent the nazis warf until i started reading this thing that have been piling up on my computer for a couple years as like holy shit. It's nazis bobby in in nazi land. Right that picture reminds me of my brother. I've got a lot of pictures. That look like i'm showing the cover right now of the book. Bobby nazi lanta tale of flatbush for people on the audio side But there is a photo on their When he was. I would probably say Four or five somewhere in that area. And and i have. We had used to have anyway a suitcase for Photos that that would just like that black and white takes me back so Would they're good times that and and Hap- there had to be happy memories. And some some of the really cool stuff about brooklyn. I think probably made it into the book. Just i have not read the book yet. Justice of not synopsis and follow. But they have to be some of that magical brooklyn culture that got into the book. for instance. the candy shop experience the Chocolate eclairs at the counter in a gandhi shop. Which they didn't you know and those kind of things is there some of that in the I get a lot into sports. I get a lot into the brooklyn dodgers that i was probably born the last possible years. Nineteen fifty two. I think that might have been the last possible year that you can have a living memory of the brooklyn dodgers. If i have been like a year younger six months younger. I might have been too young to remember watching them on. Tv and you know. Hear people talking about that. So i get a lot into the whole myth of the brooklyn dodgers and i get a lot into sports sixty one yankees. So there's that You said wasn't the candy store a good time The the main chapter about the candy store is called the great candy store tragedy. Well that doesn't sound like a happy memory So you get into the sports. I guess those sound like they might have been happy memories now. Are there other any app. Remember this yeah you know there's There are happy memories but it's it's not a happy book. It's a dark book that if there's there's happy stuff is like when i got out of the immediate surrounding and started paying attention to something that was happening on my block like the space race in the nineteen th in the nineteen sixties. The us against the russians and that was exciting. And i kind of brought that back in the home run thing with Roger mariss breaking babe. ruth's record. That was like really exciting. It was like probably the most exciting thing. I never witnessed next to the space race. It didn't seem possible that after all those years somebody would break babe. Ruth's record and roger marris without steroids. Yeah the brooklyn dodgers. I think they left in fifty seven right. They left I don't remember offhand but fifty seven sounds about right yeah it was like five years old a new our in flatbush within walking distance at ebbets field now it was about a mile away. And there's a scene in the book. My father had a candy store on church avenue right by the train station and one day right before i was born. Duke snider came in order to chocolate ice cream. And so i had a guy on an older guy older than us Who has written a book about brooklyn called. It happened in brooklyn. I believe and he was talking about how the the brooklyn dodgers were part of the neighborhood like in in the off season in those days they worked regular jobs. They worked at the hardware store down the block and stuff like that and people like duke. Snider was a regular guy. And that's it's so hard to believe and for people at grasping today's society that are you know the way baseball players are now elite super millionaires. It's hard to kind of go back and a half century to realize you know. There was a day when they would just regular people and not put on a pedestal. What will they were idolize but not meant in the way. They are treated like elites today. That's a big difference. They were working guys. They needed a job in the off season to pay the built right but i must have been very cool and coming in for just a sunday or something like that. must've been very Normal in those times. We can't imagine that. I mean now i mean if you think of Baseball today take up the ground going into a store. And just sitting down at the counter for sunday probably be mobbed than people would be on on their cell phones. Take pictures and things. And then it's not gonna get on the subway right next door to go one prospect park to go to work. You know have a limousine waiting out front right so with this book Therapy for you. I confronted a lot of demons. I really had buried and i hadn't thought about for a long time so i guess in a way. It was therapeutic. But i wrote the book to be entertaining that it's actually a very funny book. One of the things like you know. How do you deal with the nazis. And the holocaust you'd be mel brooks you make it funny. Make a movie like dr strangelove. And i these jewish comedians. Buddy hackett mel brooks. They will worship gods. Yeah You know and i think we've lost a little of that sensibility of When you make fun of you pain I think we've lost a little bit of that In culture today. I think what really sensitive about what comedy can and can't do and forget that Comedy could be healing for people especially if they've gone through Something really traumatic like that. It can be a healing force and we kinda. That's all cancel culture stuff that got me really upset you. We'll do you have any thoughts on that about you. Know comedy under under too much of a microscope from the public about what can be said. And what can't be set. A free speech advocate i I love the first amendment. And i just think that you need to be able to say all kinds of things and you need to be able to listen to all kinds of things and have civilized discussions. No matter how touchy the subject is i. I don't like the idea of cancel. Culture now yeah. Yeah i mean. I wouldn't think so as a writer you would So one last thing about about this period of your life because i think it's interesting in school. 'cause it was still happening when i was in school i think you must have experienced the Duck and cover drills where we had In school where you'd have they teach children that An atomic bomb attack could could be imminent. We need to figure out a way to prepare for that so he get on for people. Who don't have any idea what i'm talking about you get under your desk. Tuck your head between your legs but yet Hands over your head and they were close the drapes and close the blind and you sit in darkness and act as if we were going to be bombed by the russians. Was that part of your experience in brooklyn up. There is a scene in the book that takes place during the cuban missile crisis. You too young. I was like nineteen sixty one man. What happened during the cuban missile crisis is really really did think that there's going to be a nuclear war and i remember sitting in school and thinking that if we get blown up by atomic bomb is this really gonna hurt or is it could have happened so fast. I'll never know what hit me. And i talk about the absurdity of the duck and cover drills and yet that kind of stuff is in there. That bobby in land is a very funny book. It's a darkly funny book. If you like the dark humor of a movie like dr strangelove You should take a look at bobby. Nazi land One more thing this has actually late breaking news the title. I live with that title for many years when i was writing the book. I just thought it was the perfect title. It was like you know. Kinda mel brooks in alice in wonderland that kind of thing and this is the title the publisher yet. Yeah yeah sure. Let's go with that title I started doing events. This is pre pandemic and i was gone around different cities reading from the book and talking to people and people were coming up to me after the events and they're saying love. The book hated the title. I was i was getting that. And that's not good in any case. What i recently found out is the publisher agrees with this. And what they're gonna do is they're going to release the book under a different title in two thousand twenty two this coming year. I don't know exactly what yet. But it's going to be called a truck l'an memoir my life as a boy is that really really Changes the The expectation of it in a huge way. That title is gives you no idea because again i think a lot of the people who grew up even five or six years later in white bread america you know middle america have no idea about that experience of how real and that war was to the people especially in new york because we had such a melting pot of of people in brooklyn especially to we. Had you know you had a lot of italians. jews irish in that time. Blacks and puerto ricans. We were coming into the mix a we had kind of a a melting pot in brooklyn and it was just so so soon after the war that it was very real to those people in a way it wasn't to most of the country. So i think that your original title is is Tells the story better about and prepares you better for what what the story is gonna be something generic and a meme of brooklyn memoir. Whatever going up in brooklyn and whatever life is all and so much more. A subtler title It i think the right that the distributor and the The publisher they brainstormed on this and they just felt that nazi in title was putting off people and making them not wanna pick it up and this whole thing that love. The book hated the title. I'm just amazed that the publisher decided to to to do that. Because this was all prepaid right before the pandemic the book came out. Things are going fine. I was out there promoting it and then once the pandemic happened. And i could no longer get out in front of people read from the book and you know all that sales were no longer so robust and i just said all right in this Bad luck pandemic. What are you gonna do. And i was really surprised to hear. Well what we're gonna do is. We're going to release the book and call it. A brooklyn memoir. Okay let's try this. Well whatever works. I wish your great great success with it now Being a an. I don't think i mean look at beaver street. There's title i might think might get a little have a little problem being on a shelf in barnes and noble bieber sheet I would think of any of your now Any of your books were To have the title change with republican. Be david street did okay. People were able to deal with beaver. Street i. I think it would go. I have no doubt that a book like that would Do okay because people are And always have been Interested in sex and pornography and all. And you know what's wrong with david street. There's a street one block below wall street. it's not restrict. And i bet it's pat stuffed as they say that business was it was named beaver street casino back in the old days when the city was founded they saw beaver-skin zehr belts so having some experience in a in editing pornographic magazines. And things. Like that. I just wanna to get your take on You know you mentioned earlier for free speech so am i think pornography is gone so far into the abyss with with where it is now that i and i don't wanna see it's sensitive anyway but i think it's just gone gotten to insane routes where i don't know what's left to shock people anymore any comment on the state of war pornography. Today i worked in pornography. it wasn't even called pornography but it was. It was called adult entertainment. Men's magazines and s at the time this was between nineteen eighty three and nineteen ninety nine. The business was still kind of fun and it was possible to do magazines in a make money at that kind of but i looked so much pornography over those years because i had to it was my job to look at pornography. I got pretty sick of it at pretty much You know since. I left the business i think for the first five years. I didn't look at anything. I just didn't want to. It was like a a purification process But yeah you know. There's is a lot of garbage out there and i like erotica more than pornography and the differences erotica you could relate to. It's like good writing. That tells a good story that happens to have very hot sex in it you know put pornography is just you know i don't know what it is anymore known. Neither do i. I'm i'm a little concern. Not gotten to the point where they become activists in doing anything about it. But i'm a little concerned with where we're going with the internet and know Children can get a get a hold of it very easily. I mean they basically ask you push a button to say you're eighteen and that's it and so and you're in so i am and who who's gonna say no k- kid sixty seven years old is still going to he. Yes and therein and so They can see all this content and it's not like when i was five or six years old seeing a playboy magazine and centerfold. Was there kind of in. Full nudity but Today we have a i think Brendan wall scolded You know we anal cream pie gang. Bang i mean what what comes after that i mean and so kids are being exposed to depravity You know and things you would have never thought of as people would think of as erotic or in any way. It's more just for shock value. It's a dangerous trend in in humanity. I'm not sure goods for the culture But i just wanted to get your opinion on that i agree. I mean you know you took the words right out of my mouth like s seven year. Old kid looks at some of the more extreme stuff. That's out there it's ugly. it's extreme. It has nothing to do with sex and pleasure and erotica at its mind warping. I could imagine a kid being traumatized by that. So i can imagine an adult being traumatized by it i can do. I mean i definitely can. And i can see a specially adults guys don't get a lot twisting their psyche around that kind of stuff. Because you know. And i have a have a friend who i think i think he's a pornography at it you know and people said well there's no real or addiction to pornography were guy i know he's obsessed with it so we ever talked about an indian. Toyota wants to share or talk about on social media So i do think even adults adult men can be really messed up by so. But i'm off my soapbox about that. Tax a tell me about how bobby from not to land Wear this Where he first became interested in music. And the beatles was ed sullivan was i was gonna say it happened to me the same way. It happened to that. Seventy million other people the same night. I watched ed sullivan with the beatles. I liked what i heard. I read around the corner to church avenue to lapsed at like the next day I bought the beatles album. Meet the beatles and i played it to death and i still have it and i can. I knew the words every song on that album backwards forwards and the bills were a party and they went on for so long when they were going on. Oh you know they. They'll be gone tomorrow and yet they stayed there when everybody else just faded away and you know the beatles kept going. I may went two years at one. Point didn't pay attention to the beatles. Got like totally caught up in sports or something and then somebody turned me onto the whiteout metlife. holy shit. they're still doing. That's an amazing album and it. just by osmosis. I picked up all this information about the beatles. i knew more than i realized and Know the beatles broke up and this guy. I went to school with data job working for john lennon and came to make any said. We're gonna let's do a book about this and that's how nowhere man came about. And that's how. I had access to leonard's diaries holy smokes that had to be really moods something to just behold getting a hold of lennon's various but let's let's go back because she said you know people think they will ask because In those days in the early sixties. When i came over no no bans lasted long. I mean pop ends what they were and to be honest. The beatles music at that time was pretty show. I wanna hold your hand and then she loves you. Ya was always like fluff stuff which it was a catchy ear candy and people boarded up but it certainly didn't lend itself to a prolonged career. What happened with them. Is that sets them apart. From so many other than i don't even think the stones achieve this but somehow they had the longevity but the idea of advancing into a higher art form. Did you see that happening experience. That happened or was it something that you had to wait until after all the beatle years over look back and say wow. What can they really group the front. Because there's a huge difference between the white album. And that. I that when when i want to hold their hand and that stuff don't we conscious of that. Well let's start with meet the beatles. You said that. I wanna hold. Your hand is Ear candy fluff excetera that. Why after all these years when you listen to it assuming you haven't been listening to it every day. Why does it still sound fresh. That's a good question. i don't let us. it's one of the things. I'm conditioned i can't yeah. You can play any any beatles song you know. I feel fine. The one of my favorite songs in. That's one bill and somehow it sounds fresh baton. There's something going on there that makes it sound fresh like it. Take a group like the the doors and for some reason the if already heard it a thousand times. There's no freshness to it. But i've heard the beatles thousand times and you know if i go a year or two without hearing that song. Wow it's still sounds it's still sounds fresh and you know that's the magic of it. There's a magic quality that the beatles had that nobody else had to that degree. You know maybe dylan but you know there was magic to it and you can't explain magic Well one of the thing that fascinates me and i don't wanna get to spiritual here because it is kind of. I don't and i'm not sure that's what it is. But the odds was you know you talk about the debt that magic that quality that the energy behind that music the odds of those four individuals finding each other to is mind blowing. And i think there's something to the universe because you know if pete best hadn't been fired if they hadn't found ringo it wouldn't have been the same band and you could say that about george. You could say that about. I mean and people will point to was successful after the beatles. But that's because they were already a successful and had that i don't think they would have been the same if they had not found each other at the point. I'm trying to make your. And i think there's something to the synchronicity of the universe or whatever it is More than chance. Those four guys just happen to find each other Do you ever think about that. The odds of that count coming together in one unit. I suppose that sort of thing has crossed my mind. I've been talking about about my book. A nowhere man for twenty one years now more than twenty one years and in i get questions like that and i think the whole thing there something magical and supernatural about what happened and the story of the beatles yeah just the music but the personalities and you know the whole beetle thing. There's scott the power of a bible story. does it absolutely does Was lending always your favorite beetle or did you go to other Periods where paul george ringo Whoever might have been favorite. Yeah i probably liked lenin best. Because he had that attitude but For time i didn't really differentiate between the four of them that it was only like probably after the beatles you broke up. That started paying attention to them as for different people with four distinct personalities. And then like i say. The lenin diaries came to me that was magical and this was after john was killed and it was like through those diaries that i felt as if our commuting the john's spirit and you know that's the energy you know that's what's kept my book. Nowhere man alive for twenty one years that i've somehow managed to capture some of that magic and get it into the book and way you was that your first book That was my first book that was published. Yeah now i hate. I mean was that lock. Was that Again synchronicity with the universe a lot of authors. 'cause a lotta authors on this program and i talked a lot of authors and i know a lot of authors are in the audience. I mean to get handed a gift like delay. John lennon's diaries and manuscripts there. as an author i mean most authors of what their pants agreement about that the moment that have tell me about i mean for you your friend comes over and just hands on tv or did what did he give you some advance notice that. Hey i can get these. Tell me about that. No that from the day. He started working for john We had agreed. We gotta write a book about it. And i was a professional rider at at that point. this was his. Name's fred fred. seaman It was his first job out of college and he just started. Feed may information and i was writing it down and after john was killed it comes to me with the diaries tapes and all kinds of raw material but it was clear that the diaries were the key to the book that we wanted to do and You know like. I say that what is able to finally get into the. Diaries transcribed the whole thing at really. See what. John was saying what he was going through on a day to day basis. That was the kid of the book. Wow and you know there's again the word magic does a magical energy in the diaries. And i was able to catch lightning in a bottle. I suppose and You know read nowhere man. You'll see what i'm talking about. There's a reason that book is endured for all these years. I should point out to It was not easy to get it published. It was rejected for eighteen years. Wow yeah that put aside. This is ridiculous never to get this published. And then you know the the stars lined up and it was finally published. It became a bestseller. It changed my life that a surprising to me because after lenin's death he was pretty much canonized. The i mean he was Any still is in a lot of ways. compared to jesus ghandian mohammed. I mean you'd go down the line of Martyrs in saints in whatever and lent his name gets mentioned with those people So it's probably that publishers would not be eager to especially because you had that choice material that nobody else had most. Riders would be very envious. Just take a look at those Journal still in existence. Do you know. I absolutely do not have them. I do not want even the slightest hint of anybody thinking. No i do not have the you know where they are. Yeah yoko hasim okay. Yeah that the heart of the reason it took eighteen years for the book to get published is because that when fred gave me the diaries. Yoko accused him of stealing the diaries. Oh and according to fred. John had told him to use the diaries to write a book. And i was just a hired hand got You know. When i was handed all that material i knew that i was given the story of my generation at its story deals and i had to fight for eighteen years to get the book published but then you know if finally got published and speaking of nuclear explosions and take cover drills Yes that book went off like an atomic bomb. And you know it was. It was crazy at the though from being an obscure writer obscure freelance writer to You know a book that was getting translated. Who an everybody was talking about it. And the the energy of what happened in two thousand when the book was first published it carries through When did he start writing. The dyers the earliest or was it. After the beatles broke up or what was. When did they pick up when they start writing. It was the diaries of his years of seclusion from nineteen seventy five to december eight one thousand nine hundred eighty when he was killed. They open january. Nineteen seventy five. When he left yoko and he's still with may pang and soon after he goes back to yoko and sean is born and he retired from public life and then in nineteen eighty. He makes his great comeback to the double fantasy album. And then he's murdered and that's kind of the arc of the story and you know in the meantime. What's he doing during all these years when he's in seclusion. You know the the netflix as well he was he was raising. Sean yeah he was doing that to some degree but you know they had had had nannies to take care of showing they had had and assistance and You know just all kinds of people help with the domestic chores at what was john. Doing john was sleeping. John was smoking a lot of weed. John was teaching himself. Had program. dreams is writing all this in his his diary They were really into a call stuff that he was into astrology. Had a full-time tarot card reader goes having her. Tarot cards read virtually every single day by their fulltime tarot card reader. Charlie swan lead in his tarot cards read to. He was into numerology. It was into astrology. He was into yoga magic. I keep using the word. Magic is magic here. That's there's this magic there. They really practiced magic in the The supernatural sense of that. Yoko paid a brouhaha in colombia. The of the country she. He paid her. Think it was sixty thousand dollars to teach your to catch. Had a cast magic spells. So they're doing stuff like this that they're trying to control the world control everything through through magic. Charlie swan john green. Who was his real name. Charlie swan tarot card reader. You know he also advise them on he would when they did business deals he would meet tarot on it. They would consult the astrological charts. They would run the numbers on it. it was just. It was heavy occult five. And that's a big part of what was happening in the dakota and it's a big part of the book i did not know that. That's a revelation to me. I gotta get to book now. A twenty one years later. I'm slow to the table. But i'm gonna have to get to But it's interesting to me that detail guy couldn't predict what would happen on december eight. Yeah a lot of people say that i have had a number of psychics on recently and actually Had a blow up last week that i did not end up publishing because i ended up pulling it down because i kind of lost my temper at a so-called psychic who was basically Just saying his proof that he's a. He's a genuine psychic israel and the other psychics. I had on the show were all phony and basically said you know what i don't believe in any approve i think l. all it's out there but i keep an open mind to which is why keeping view those people but i but i've never seen anybody proof that was real What do you have Do you have any beliefs about the authenticity of charlie swan guy or whatever you know. He was the word. I couldn't think of a psychic to that. He made it part of. It was reading the tarot cards but they believed job believed against yoko did to that. Charlie swan was psych Do i believe in it in a. I'll tell you the when. I was like reading about all this stuff and researching it. There's something very seductive about the kalt. Yes something like Like other numerology that of all the Practices numerology is the easiest. One to understand and i really got caught up in it that i was researching it. I know john was into it as a whole number nine thing but he was really into numerology. Cheer rose book of numbers was one of his bibles and they would run everything through the numbers that you're bookies would probably appreciate this that you know that they were going to have to call my lennon friends. Now 'cause i followed lennon pretty extensively. I never knew about any of this stuff the numerology or the fact that he had any interest in the occult just go. I guess i focused mostly on the music stuff and all that kind of stuff in the drug. Use you know. I know that he was From from the white album period right up to like seventy five. He was very much i want to call a heroin addict but very active in use in using heroin and all that stuff kind of Was the stuff. I focused on. Learn about him. i'd never learned about his. Occult of d. think. Yoko changed. And i know you don't have any direct access to but after the murder. Her attitudes towards that occult stuff might have changed a little bit or did you would think so. You would hope so. Yeah you asked me. If i believed in you know i got i got caught up in it as part of the research and i just got caught up in it but it was a phase i went through and that you know. I don't look at the numbers on the license plates anymore. Every address in every street side. That i got addicted to it that you know. If i'm getting get addicted to something it was that damn numerology and you know i'm over it now it's behind me out a mother covered right so i didn't. I didn't even put two together. You mentioned number nine which you. Revolution of benign way. That was just like a freaky thing on the white album. But then there was dream number nine. And you'd mentioned he was like china program dreams So that number nine was kind of a A repeating kind of thing in his life. And i did. I didn't even pick up on that until now. Would you just mentioned that number nine thing. Well what was it about number nine for him. He was born on october ninth. Sean was born on october. Ninth when you get into Into numerology the number nine is is a special number in a lot of ways but any multiple of nine is also a very powerful number nine eighteen twenty seven these are all powerful numbers that Connect with with them with john. So all right. Yoko was born october. A february eighteenth. Paul was born mccartney was born. June eighteenth sues just birthing. And if any any of those digits they'd be make nine two so the right. Yeah that's the thing that makes it special any multiple of nine even in the millions and billions and trillions. You added up. It'll always break down to nine that you keep adding together and adding together and it's indestructible in interesting stuff. I never realized that about lennon. the death His desk now you were around for that word where you were one of the people who were out there Vigil for days and days in new york strawberry field them and miranda dakota and all i went down there the night he was killed for the two years preceding in my mind. I was thinking about this book. That i was gonna write with a friend fred and it was like never clear when we were gonna move forward with trying to publish the book and then when sean was killed obviously something changed and a couple of months later fred comes to me with the diaries and i heard the story. This is what john wants. Where carry out john's Carry john's will and there at the time. I believed that. I wanted to believe it. I've had a long time to think about. Do i think this is really true. And i think that there's some truth to it I don't know if it's exactly true. The way fred conveyed it to me but i think that there is some truth to it that john did want. The true story of his life. Toll and fred was a journalism major. Why would john hire a journalism major as his personal assistant if he didn't want some journalism to come out of it that you know if you're like most famous person on the planet and you don't want your story told probably best not to hire a journalism f. You want to keep it secret. Absolutely good point. Yeah you would think you know about. That's just common sense But with the question that begs is what fred. Write the book himself. Because i'd already had some success as a writer and he he was what am i big supporters. And he just thought that it was good to have me on board is like a professional guiding hand through this This this project and I i was into it. You know that i was devastated when john was shot. But i also knew that it was going to change my life and I liked being in a position where i could help john. Spirit carry on. And that's what i tried to do with the book. You now I to very the night. He was shot I was tuning into local radio here on long island. Wbz ab joel martin Used to do an overnight. Show there. And i started at eleven and seven minutes into a program. He got the news with john and that ninety was doing a program with psychic. George george anderson and they even at that moment they were trying to contact the spirit of john lennon and talked to him and it just seemed to me a little too soon to be doing all that stuff and and all that stuff A lot has been written about The true john lennon because he we we have a a image of him that the media has is kind of built up at and you know songs like imagine play into it but that he was just all about you know peace in in love and all that kind of stuff and but he was kind of a a conflicted very complex character was also a bit of a ruffy and being young and got a lot of fights in that kind of stuff. What did you learn from these memoirs that People would be surprised about the personality of lenin from his from his journal. That i mean one of the things that surprised me was his psychic connection to paul mccartney that it was always thinking about paul always writing about paul in his journal. Always wondering what. Paul was up to Feeling really jealous of paul's feeling very happy. When paul was busted in japan for marijuana and is concert tour was ruined in. You know. Paul went to jail at. John believed that. Yoko cast A spell and that's how paul is was busted in japan but that was like the high point of Of the month of you know a good portion of the year that you know he took pleasure in paul being arrested that he really just like the song really was jealous. Sky wile Could point i forget about that. One too So did any of the beatles comment on your book when it was When it first came out. Did anyone ever offer any commentary on it now now. That's not likely that would happen. That some Ono's spokesman try to discredit the book but the we ever insanity put a spell on you. I think my magic is a match for her magic back in the day when i was doing radio which is right around that time. I mean i had a madame zelda. I believe she. She put a spell on me. It kind of you out a little bit. Not a youth believing that stuff but just knowing that that it's day you're always looking around to see you know kind of always in the back. You might be say that they put acts on your or the curse on you or whatever so i said i send yoko ono only the best fives and you know. She's not my enemy. And i hope she understands if she's watching this or one of her assistants are watching this that she's not miami and You know if she needs to get in touch with me her lawyers. Nowhere to call my right What about the idea And i don't know how much you know about this. I just getting your opinion on it that you actually wrote imagine. Oh i doubt that you think that You know he kind of based on her idea that like you know Imagine whatever you know imagine Michelangelo sculpture and sky or something like that that you imagine this. Imagine that sean turned it into a song that became the international answer. Yes that's that was basically my take when i heard i had a beatles author on and danny. I'm sorry if i can't remember. I know his last name Such with an s. I can't remember his last name. But he's a a beatles historian and author and he told me that story that yoko actually wrote imagine and i initially reaction to that was pretty much what you just said. I think she probably had a lot of influence in it but when it comes to actually writing the song i think that was pretty close to what we had known from john i mean melodic and the whole bit so i don't. I don't doubt that he wrote it. But i know yoko is just not known for a catchy melodies and memorable lyrics. That's not her thing right. I think i read on your website somewhere. And it's a route. Robert rose in new york city dot com for for folks out there. I think i read on there. You're a singer to did you. were you wife. I was gonna say did you do an abandoned and sank. But your wife the singer that you yes. He's a singer. She has a band. Her name is is maryland. May scott and you can find out about her by going to maryland. May scott dot com okay. The singer in the family. I'll put that. I'll put that in the description. So have you ever and we'll get. We're out of time here so but i want to you this Have you had any inclination. Since that book was a big successfully and of course landon deaths was part of it. But have you had any inclination to kind of write about you know the other beatles judges past may be right about him more Thinking about the other beatles. Who are still with us writing a book about no now that i wrote about leading because of this amazing thing that happened which gave me tremendous insight into look into john lennon. If somebody wants he wants to give me george. Harrison's diaries to turn into a book or paul wants to give me his diaries. You know paul I'm always looking for freelance work. You know i'll i'll do something with your diaries. A proven to be phony. A youtube Video audio piece of that was supposedly george. Fashion deathbed That confessional but kind of Memoir of george kind of talking for a couple of hours on his deathbed about his history and all that kind of stuff. I think it was proven to be phoney though. I don't know what all it stuff is but always interesting stuff to the beatles in Hopefully you know. Paul and ringo will be with us fo- for a while longer but well again long in the tooth now so you know one won't be forever unfortunately Robert i i wish you great success with the stuff and in continued success with with the Bobby and not zealand. When it's coming out when will it be Released under a new title in two thousand and twenty two. I don't know the exact date yet. This was very recently decided. So then Good thing now. To entice people to buy it is that the original title will become a collector collected absolutely. Yeah that so now right. You want to read. Bobby in nazi land in get it. While it's still bobby in nazi land and you will have a A collector's item. That right and so on ebay in twenty years ago. Ro robert Robert rosen new york city dot com and then went way. Nyc dot com say. We'd say new york city when i seen nyc Robert rosen nyc dot com. That's where the links to all his books and you can get and again. Are you doing assigned signed signed version of while it's still a while now going preparing to be collected item. I signed versions at all. The only signing thing. I've got on. My current schedule is in. Saint louis at subterranean books on october seventh or eighth. I was supposed to do that last year. For lennon's eightieth birthday and it got postponed cost of the pandemic. So i'm doing it. One year later subterranean books. I think i've told her seventh. Saint louis will good luck with that. I know a lot of people are doing online. Signing i mean basically You can order a signed copy. Try the mechanism to work. Which that's why. I asked a lot of authors offering a special foil cut bucks more you get assigned autograph the copy and makes it even a little more valuable so seems like this is the time to buy that book and get it signed even if you gotta go saint louis because it's going to be out by different title which is gonna be value of the current book by want to assume a signed copy. You know right to me. And i will tell you what to do and get you a signed copy. Well thank you for your time. I wish you great success again. It's robert rosen. Nyc dot com And been a very insightful and interesting conversation from brooklyn in auschwitz to beatles a how range of subjects. I thank you for your time. I wish you great success. Thanks coming by for now. Thank you very much. Matt i had fun accu for now. Robert rosen folks. I i hope you enjoyed that program inciteful a lot of Different things that we touched on but to me i learned something here tonight. I learned about a couple of things. But i did not know. About a lennon's occult interest. And i had s- i recall now. There was some interesting. The number nine that i knew about but i never associated with numerology going to have to buy the book and i know twenty one years late getting today but i'm going to have to lend some more about that part of lens i've i've always been interested in his life and Now i have something new to kind of look into a hope. You enjoyed his program. I hope you come back to your friends about it. And all that kinda stuff you write to me at info mind. Tv dot com in fort mind. Tv dot com Who do we have tomorrow Hopefully everything goes right tomorrow. We have another author. Stephanie levin at one pm and then no shows scheduled for tomorrow night maybe we'll get the studio back in still fixing the lighting thing we could see was still all. We'll get that worked out to bank through adobe screwing up again thank you adobe. Every urging all my with mr boycott adobe given period of time with. 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Look this really really hard to squeeze. I said let me see. I said this is nuts. This is very hard to squeeze she said and look at the size of the printing on the side. I said nobody could read that. No i would have to take out my phone. And then there was a pause a natural sort of like something enters the room at this point in a silence. Settled honey okay. As we thought about our difficult seasonals both just bust out imperials of laughter. Yeah and i say you felt it right issues. I yeah. I think i did. I said you felt that you've felt something just really changed. We have crossed a line that we can. We can never go back. We're officially so old right now. We just had a three minute conversation about why they make difficult to squeeze things and can't they just make the writing bigger but it was melting more intimate intimate as a moment but we both bust out laughing because we both realized what had just happened. We just complained. It's it's a cliche hard. Candy's difficult. I've been making that joke for years. Oh it's all still hard candies. Diff the container so difficult to open. You know what i'm saying. Jake the whole plane out of blackbox box. That kind of thing. That's right but it's true and then should you use your phone as a magnet fire. I should've tried to get us out on my finger. Four then a handed her. A five. Watt a usb charger from the apple company. Hey keep watch. That is what the output is with the She's like no. There's nothing on here really believe it or not you know that c- printed on e. e. and it's like there's they don't have sizes for this like nanno typography as i was taking on my apple phone to be able to really it's a whole vertical integrated operation depending where you live and the situation with unions and re packers Mr wonderful says depending on where you are. You could be getting best foods or you could be getting helmets. Bring up the helmets. Bring out the best and what. I'm what i'm saying. Y'all is i. If i if popped if a pop for the squeeze bottle i would very much prefer to and that's all i have to say about that. Okay all right well. Seven minutes fifty nine seconds old. Actually a lot of people can just show do you do about it. The older you get right in fact it might be the easiest thing in the world to do marches on an time is still marching on there. Some good guys do recognize that song. I'm referring to. They might be giants than you've ever been. And now you're even older. Because i'm jerry. Lewis and merlin only has one voice. You've got more than one. You've got the elf. Yeah seriously start the show you. Yeah i'm doing pretty good pretty good. 'cause you male male that's fine public three six five Finally back they're back in and they're not just back there back in force. You know what i'm saying like. Yeah yeah weird. Because there are some times where i just can't get the kind of celtic but i like In it'll just it'll just not be available in me for a few weeks. Always assume they're out to get me just as a precaution But then suddenly it'll be back. I don't know do you blame covert. What do you do you blame. Anything i mean because ours you say no blame. No cloves seems to have triggered all of the stuff whether it's really hoven to blame but like the reason you can't buy kia furniture. Covert the reason. You can't get graphics card russians video. Actually have to check out some of your homework that you weren't formally assigned. yeah absolutely. They did a great explainer on that. I had two questions about two pieces of media recommendation. you can take them in any order as wondering if you If you ended up watching the sketch with fred willard. That i mentioned. And i'm wondering if you watched you'd mentioned interest second you. It's always two things with amazon. You'd mentioned an interest in looking at nerd documentaries on amazon prime anything you want to share with the class. I did watch the one that you were signed shortly after you assigned it and fred willard is it you saw it. Yeah you saw. He lay on. Hi it's about a big big baby duck head. Cotton tomato has very somber. I love player up. And i had new as soon as i saw that. Big organizations plates. I know i love the russian. The thing about fred willard was he just he knew how somehow to take things too far but then keep them like tangible in some way you know what i'm saying like off. He would make a book a big. I mean think about somebody who considers themselves funny and they made one big fart joke and then leave the room and like he is. He's not gonna let you off. I know there's his mind is fast so so you know there's just. I think i mentioned this before. But there's so many good stories about like his ability to improvise like keep it in the same lane But how something different and fresh to say exotic. That exactly like i said is the notorious scene in In waiting for guffman where he does something on screen on camera he does. I don't know does like four. Dennis jokes in like ten seconds. He's just like bam bam. He keeps going and this one app. I totally agree with you. But he doesn't let you off just making a joke and then leaving like keith. Keeps hanging around and the eagerness eagerness with which he's looking at the minister while he's pulling all the horns and throwing the plates so good lot appropriate for she does a lot of communication of the humor with just his expression on his face and the timing of the visit physicals enough yary. I think i believe i. You know i. I turned out to be a cornball about this stuff i imagine that's probably the one of the last things he did professionally for. Yeah i think you're right. Because i mean he was older in that wasn't he he. Yeah i mean he. He's passed away not not very long long ago. Yeah but you know. But then sometimes like i used to think to myself i thought. Oh you know. Peter sellars he such a complicated guy you know. He sounds like he's not not a very nice guy. like something. so cool about the fact that say what you will. I mean if he just done dr strangelove or he had just done the mouse that roared But he did. he did it all. He was in the kubrick movie with the girl he's in. He's in so many clare quilty. I think his name was. What's it called lalita. As in so many things. I it is kind of nice. Though that the last thing he ever did was maybe his greatest role which is which is being there right. Chauncey gardiner who. I need my dog after chance the gardener. Now seriously my dog's name is chancey gardner that good good good book good movie and i have been saying that a very wise person for a while and then you know somebody said to me like you know. That's not his last movie. Right of course is being there. It's really good really good like now. He did another movie after that. English plot of doctor fu manchu. Were good or not good. Oh no no no. It's got michelle pfeiffer. It's got a very young michelle. So i think it might even just be like scarface era michelle pfeiffer i just watched deserving triscuit my goodness. And i mean she's she's great. I think she's about margot robbie. We're like you know my always appreciate is. She's very appreciated. Well you're you're you're right but let's get it out of the way. She is just empirically so pretty movement so charismatic overshadows her acting. Yeah i know it for me. it did. Yeah like when. I saw her wolf of wall street. Yeah i was like. Oh my god this is such a pretty lady and like because i'm a dome boy like i thought i should get accurate. Whatever and does the cameo in the big short that's astounding and then she's in but oh yeah the movie about the news on movie the new stuff to the news movie where she was in with. nicole kidman o. Oh my god yes. She was only exquisite. That was that was the fox movie. Yes yes yes she was so good. And that's why i think that's why mentally confused him ahead. 'cause they're both really really pretty actress ladies but they were not together anyway. The point being. I know right. I'm far from the first person to say this but two things I i don't know he just like You get in the movie. You don't wanna watch this heal. And i turned on the harley quinn movie or brazil pray or whatever. It's called Hbo amax really really liked the movie. Because it was like not at none of like a dark gray dc movie. The the crux of the movie is she. And mr j of broken up putting and really. It's about how she wants to breakfast sandwich. That's the movie and it's great aunt's guys got some excellent rosie perez. Good but dan finally get. My daughter loved that movie. So then i was like you know what let's watch i tanya. I've heard good things holy crap. What a tiny is such a good movie. I you hear things. You know what i'm saying. She's ben on me. She's legitimately just very good actor. And i think i was blinded by the fact that she's one of the one of the prettiest people i don't even have a crush on her and a conventional sense. But i think i was. Just think you might. Oh no. I'm happy talking questions. My crushes are nothing. I try to conceal doria get. Crushes also get sinus problems. Anyway how are you doing with this. Sinus are you using nasacort q. Flonase no no. That's that's bad getting off that in the morning you know. Prophylactically rolled on like you can also get one of those inhaled. You can like an old old bus. Ever get the oldest only got an old homeless right here trying to say bulbous no oldness lbj for your nose and nose bulb. It's an inhaler and you press it to your knowledge daniel handler. What did you say. It's an inhaler merlin through books. Okay it changes your whole game. The elevating later those are tv shows. Good you're watching tv. Show series unfortunate events. Here watch that your loved that one. I thought it. I thought that was much more. Like the books than the movie with jim carey. But i like yay my. My kid has read all the books. i have not read the books but my sense was. They did what they could with the movie. But you know there's certain one of one of the myriad great things about platinum h tv. I mean the downside of it is hey netflix's not everything has to be ten episodes of over an hour Let's get over that. But it's my favorite limited series things. Lately it's been like three four five episodes but But sometimes one one of the great things and we learn this as early as the sopranos. At least which is sometimes to tell a certain kind of story in a certain way At a certain pace. I think all those things importantly they've really does better as the tv show movie You have to leave so much stuff out. I think it's one thing that people find frustrating about historically about a lot of adaptations of beloved is that you have to leave so much stuff out even to get down to like a two hour movie and really what they want is closer like hour and a half movie and a lot of cases right. You can show marina why they do that partly that you can show more movies. Do you want me to make you almost three hour long superhero movie. Let's gonna earn big bucks for the first but if you get movies little shorter you can book more of them during a day. Make an extra viewing. i'm exam. You gotta fill the theater's gotta fill the theaters. Otherwise what's the point. What's making that popcorn for. Nobody i do shirley stare on. I'm going to think about it. The i'm gonna think about who my crushes. I have a lot. I have a lot of crushes rate now and i'm going to think on that I only have What i don't have a hardly anything. Prepare today calendars. We can talk talk about some stuff. But i also wanted to just talk. I think probably closing the threat on the calendar stuff unless people have questions that could be fun to is. If you have questions thoughts mainly questions. I mean you know. I don't know. But i thought it talked a little bit about some specifics. Implementation details of calendar stuff today if we consider that the winding down of that threat. I like you've been on a journey. So you probably have things to say about calendars i do. I do you score anything big for prime day yesterday on wait all year for that. No no no. I don't. i'm not observant. A couple of the more of more of a cultural amazon than a religious. I see. I think i got a couple of echoes. The which the one that. I the only one that i had was the very first original tube one and then i have sonos one. Oh you were thinking about getting the show. But that's what you got the hub that i hope. So i got the google nest egg hub which is working fine. And i like that but i didn't. I don't. I didn't feel like i needed the display and like every room and so the sale that they had on these things is like crazy. Good fifty percent off. So i got a dot dot and i got a regular echo. Just the ball. It looks like a giant bowling ball and and so wanting to see what happens. I don't know what happens. I don't feel like i'm very wants. A lots of points for responsiveness. Like how well it. Here's and then like. How quickly does the right thing is. It's really really impressive. Death benefit of the dots in some ways is like i was not the best sound but i mean one of the problems with stuff whether it's sonos sorts apple stuff amazon stuff you know. There's a trade off all of these things like if you can you know like the recently discontinued. Big big homepods sound amazing but as everybody knows and they can actually they can hear you. Well where most of that falls apart is in the smart part of the smart speaker. This great smart stuff is not that great. 'cause it's siri and it's still learning but by comparison. The amazon wants it so good at hearing. It's so good at understanding again. Not in this case not a great speaker but the smarts part of that is really good so if you just need more ways to be heard if you were interested in the smart speaker. Those dots are pretty good solution. They're not very expensive. But i figured having one of those in kind of like that like the office areas the area. Because you know you can have that thing to sit in there and then you have like the like. I have the sonos one in the main area and then got. Maybe i'll put the ball. And another i don't know but what is interesting about it. Is that the tube. That i had could not join. One of those what are they. What are they called. Like a Speaker groups so that you can have them all playing the same thing at the same time. It couldn't join it. Wouldn't refuse to be part of it. Just one of them while the the tube the old one the original one wouldn't be. But i mean i mean. Yeah it's just in the sense that like you could extend that if you had like five or six of those it would still be just the one. It's it's not. The whole system is one of them is being balki. Yeah that apparently it's too old. It's not compatible interesting. Wow that sucks. Yeah so i had to get rid of. The sun has picked the wrong. We'll say quarter picked the wrong time to get cute. 'cause i mean i think like a lot arthur they'd be cute about. I'll tell you l. me for us. It's really frustrating. And it's such a first world problem. I feel a real third setting aside time to complain about it. But as long as you're bringing this up short we expect what we like from these things I love the Amazon echos show showing spring. I feel like how how is reading my lips but You know. I i love it as i've said you got this one here on my desk. I that show five shows something but it's it's big. I mean it's the screen bigger than ipad mini. And it's great for just like heaven to put on the background to kind of distract me. While i'm working on something i can put on. Cnn and be sad but love wolf blitzer and loved the way that he repeats repeats things one thing though the the one thing that the reason why i. I'm glad that i got the google tub. Instead of the amazon one is simply because of the youtube immigration. And most of what i watch except like in the evening when i'm watching a movie or aizhu it's youtube. It's all i do and i don't wanna have to launch pulling up what you expect given the stuff that i watch. I'm trying to imagine you you just pull up a channel. Give me an example. As much as you're comfortable from an object standpoint give me an example of how you say. I wanna watch some youtube right now. How do you talk to your machine and what you asked for. If i could ask i might. I might just say because i have things that i've subscribed to. I might just say to the code word. And i might just say youtube and it will just launch youtube and it'll show player recco. It'll show on screen like okay. The next episodes in the one that i want is always sitting right there. Similar hailing to like apple. Tv or google google. What aiden films on youtube. This is my yawkey channel. I guess at work and just watch. What baker just uploaded. Whatever he put up is probably good. Who the acre guy the guy it of collaborative learning the guy that talks about all the kubrick films colitis. I smell of khalitov's c l l eight. Hey cool okay. But we'll stop. Stop the picked the wrong time to get cute. Because i think blake suspect like laura projection. I have become more circumspect. About what i want to have in the house and just from a completely practical standpoint okay. Do you know what i mean like. I used to just like. Oh i'll try that. Cameron try this camera and like no no. It's not gonna be what you think. It's not not blue privacy thing no no. It's something else which is like there's like something shitty about each one of these things. It's maddening like i really like these arlo cameras. Arlo cameras are terrific. The performance is great. You get to. You can get to k hdr. And they're just amazing. These wireless totally wireless battery powered cameras. That can according to the documents last up to like three months. Six months on a charge right. And i'll tell you why i love them. Yeah i love that. There's gonna be surveillance footage of a weird area where nobody should be. But you know what's even better. It's also got a built in motion detector and it's secure and works with homekit like win win win right Absolutely but even in a house filled with eero beacons. The problem is that it's it needs to reach the the hub right attached via ethernet to my unmanaged rich right which is like two floors up on the other side of the house. Even though there's an era ten feet away in european ten feet away from this thing doesn't do anything doesn't help because it's not trying to do wi fi radi yes like it's not. It's not getting on wifi and then gets tunneled into thing. No it needs to actually access via. I guess i guess something like wifi. Yeah it's trying to get to that hub and no matter what you do. It can't get to it well. Guess what if it's having trouble getting and maintaining a signal. The battery power is wiped so follow. Yeah listening so even though like it's nice to have the footage mainly i wanted for motion detection right right right and it's another layer of like this is an important protectable area in a very mission. Impossible way like. I'm gonna want more than one way. That motion gets detected that all feeds into the lights. turn on turn off etc but anyway wonderful cameras. I love in every single way except for one which is not tenable to be used on battery power. If because of what i would consider a design flaw which is like you don't even. I don't think they even offer extenders for it. Which is bananas. Like if you're trying to use this the rental property and you weren't like in the same on same floor in the same room like what's the point and there's so many of the the reason i mentioned that there's so much stuff like that where i found myself going. This is as long as you. Never look at the footnote. This thing is flawless now. I like the amazon abuse. And when we were talking about least my personally your you know kind of to ask for my thoughts on this. I said i've just really if you're in the ecosystem. I do think the hub is terrific. It looks great. It's super appointed photos. All that stuff you know but for a long time i would always say like oh no. The amazon stuff is great. It's so nervous. It was so easy bought at a blah. No why would you wanna have an amazon view. Not why does amazon. What should have amazon you. But why would you want an amazon view breast lancer. Which is i like the perfect picture frame. Basically depending on where it's located and what it's functionally capable of. I ask or expect different things of the different devices so i mean this is the one on my desk. It's you know it's primary. Ish is as a voice reception for my voice to do things i it is where i watch stuff on hulu but when is not in use dan. I like i'll send you the most indian images here's well no just like it's it's so freaking straight forward. It is a photo of my kid on the couch looking at her phone. It's black made a black and white photo. This is beautiful and low key and it shows me the weather the time and date which is great. Right that's what i want. Okay over i. I'm going to speculate a little bit here. I think this has happened over time. Which is if you're like me the first time each first or third time. Turn anything on you make a point of just. Because you're a weirdo. You go through. Is there anything. That's an obvious. Privacy or security gotcha Upn pm this gonna turn off. If i need upnp live with it right like. Is there anything dumb about advertising data tracking in here. That i can. I'm this trauma tv. You know what. I'm saying like an all the devices and like every time i would say like. Oh yeah i just want to have this. I just want you to rotate image. I don't want don't do any cute. Just be a goddamn picture frame. Until i wanna watch wolf blitzer do you follow. But then there's this creep creep overtime now. There is a section inside the controls for the amazon lady visual device where you can go in and you 'cause it's something like i dunno home screen content or something right dan. There are so many goddamn radio buttons that you have to click like. Do you want to know the big sports game score. Do you want recipe ideas do you. No no no. No no no no select all select all of course. You're never supposed to you're supposed to be somebody's notional older aunt who can't figure this stuff out. You're supposed to just be happy that they're pumping recipes. And you're all i dan. I made a point of going in and turning off all the things why. Because until. And unless i wanted to watch blitzer i went to picture my god damn daughter to be the only thing that ever appears on here but then there's creep because they're getting cute and stuff. There's no way to turn this off. It just keeps offering nominally helpful suggestions. It's a dude on the screen. This should have the child on it right and it's like oh did you know that you can like find the nearest race track by. Turn your lights on and off and you're like why. Just show me the kid we're bringing back. The child drives me crazy. And he's gonna flip it. Of course now guess what now. You're interacting with the screen with your finger. You being meet finger sausage hands. How do i get to the radio. Buttons meet meet. Move a bull crap every voice. That's i've been saying all these years but would mean the stream decker pretty good buddies now the stream that there are some things where you and i. I think this could be a topic someday. Is that. There's no answer one answer for everything. Even even if all of the things were equal and all of the things are never equal there are some things that are well suited to to switch and there's some things that are well suited to voice ray so like i mean as much as the joke that alex and i make some times like you know. You're such a weirdo. First of all. You spent all this money. You could talk to your lamp. And now you're all but hurt because you don't wanna have to talk to your lamp switch like a person and it's like well that's that's an amazingly unsubtle way for a straw man to talk right 'cause sometimes you wanna switch if you're up and you need to make sure eight. I don't want to talk to a lamp at night. Because here's the problem. If you talk to lamp the lamp will talk back to you. And i don't need something going okay or working on that or something's wrong i don't want i need to make sure not to have a conversation white. Ah in that case. A switch actually is good. Is that the old physical switchable. That's the switch him up here. That's the good. That's the frankie. Goofs is that no it's either a cassetta lutron dimmer lutron dimmer. Ima bathroom you know or a philips hue switch somewhere else now on the other hand like if i'm leaving my office and all i just want to say you know. Hey dingus here. I go and then either plays a song by mystical or it says manga and others but anyway. That's the topic for a different day. Did you see that dan. Did you see the someone listening to our program a week or two ago whenever it was. Did you see one of our listeners. On the on the internet said that win. I did the hail like i guess. Kind of in unison. Oh yes i did not reporting on recently. Was that for some reason. I just to quickly recap i have. What's called a routine An amazon Alien routine which is where you basically just put a bunch of things into a list and executes in a certain order based on you saying a certain thing and so tried all different ones of these Like the problem is though you get into namespace. Pollution like my one for a while was. I've just say hey dangerous heading home right so heading home. It says you got it man and then it says then it turns off my lights and it began. It says their weight through the procedure. Wait you wait for ninety seconds and then turn on my alarm rate. Also a nice little thing i added to. All of these is T to after so first of all set the volume very high when you responding to me and then instantly turn it back to one. Which sounds silly. Isn't that kind of cool. Like you never get that thing where you can do whisper mode and say hey think us play q eighty you know and says okay plank through papa but then it comes on and it's like volume jillian Even though you whispered and so if you add in things that you to say reset all the volumes on these at five am each day so you always start quiet every and so. That's my routine. I would say Going home the problem is going. Home is too close to some defaults. You ever do thing. You want to become kip boy. You run into this. Eventually folks in homekit is where you. You can't name something something because it's too close to something else. So i get really wants to have good be meaningful. So you can't do lots of things with night in it or it won't let you save it Anyway my ding this whatever it is. I'm saying meaning go do the things that i need when i leave my private office and And then but then. So i finally had to change it because it was too close to other triggering things and then like say then it changed to Here i go. Which i thought was good and but then like i say that at some point it just started playing a song by something called mystical with k. Called here i go and then that that got in in that infected that infect rechose so now the thing called mystical with cake didn't that i re- saved it. You know the usual as we used to say rain dance to hopefully reset. Something you fonzie slap. Yes on the side of the bathroom of the box or whatever. Fonzie hits the jukebox anything. He could do that with anything. It's not the problem is it's not about us it's about you know there's something magical happens you know what i mean when he did it. Yeah yeah regularly. What do you call them. Morgan le fay don't think we'll see that anymore. But what was the other thing i was going to say about. This is the leaving. Oh yes how does get so long. Dan talk too much. So what it said here on the program was then i had a twist. So it's no longer playing the song by mystical. Not doing a thing where it says a response. I say here i go. And then it says. Manga and others. We were interrogating what that might mean. And then one of our listeners. Apparently we've you know replicated. The bug has you say because one of our listeners. Had the same thing happened when we said it here to try retry do it was it was it is here. I go how. I can't remember what it was doing on the e one not a one which won't be able to hear much now. You know what no one that can do that on. What shoulder listeners. Role no of course you do. Tell him no. It's not nice. It's not nice. That could be disrupted. Someone's someone's now you know what i'm saying alexa. Watch the here. I go to see you to stop alexa. Cancel alexa go home. Let's don't do the thing. Dan did you to me about something. You cut all that outright. This will show because of my alarm may be going off very soon. May need to flee the country rally. Say they always say. I keep a small bag packed. I mean the your go back dan. could you tell us something you about made in medan. Here's what for your time. Leave room for me to say something. Okay okay you got it there. You're talking about something. Like yeah i would like to tell you about made in merlin. And what so that. You know people ed. They're walking down the street. They pulled the pulled me to the side and they say listen. How does your restaurant your favorite restaurant consistently make such delicious food. And you know what. It's the same thing scotty says in star trek for the right job. Okay and that's makes the difference you you will never find a chef or as you say a cook. Cook a successful one with bad tools. It's just not going to happen. The same thing for an auto mechanic. Same thing for a an audio guy right. You've got to have the right tools. The right tools. Make all the difference in the world. And so you make you look at some recipe or you get something and you cook it at home. You're like wow that sucked wide. it's could suck because you get the wrong. Got the wrong. I get enough. I don't get enough just for what it's worth. You're absolutely right like on our range. Top i cannot get enough. Btu's to get a good sear right and it's like no matter how good that the protein is if i if i can't get into. Btu's i'm not going to get a good cheer. What does that. I don't have the right equipment for that. He i need my tools. And if you're serious about this and cooking is a really really fun thing if you're serious about it then you want to get the right to you. Want to get the right tools for your job. You wouldn't you wouldn't go out there. Merlin and say. I'm gonna. I'm gonna walk around mowing people's lawns and then you've got some lawnmower won't start. You gotta get the good lawnmower. Get the bid one. 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There's things you can't do in a nonstick but there's nothing you can't do one of these if you know what you're doing it's got five layered metal. It can go from the stove. Top right into the oven to anthony idea my goodness you can just put it in the oven. Eight hundred degrees. Come on there isn't even think your oven can get eight hundred degrees twenty the highest number. Would you talking about it. So but it's got a beautiful handle. The handle stays cold when you're working on on the range of course if you put it in the oven it's probably because like alka meetings. Dan i don't know where you're coming up with. Christie is great. And i'm looking at their site right now on this eight thousand nine hundred and fifty reviews all five stars minds. Probably one of those. These things are awesome. You gotta get yourself one of these. That's my recommendation. And get whatever you want but merlin. You said you had something to say about those guys. 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Thirty two four hundred and it connects it connects just fine from anywhere in the world. I've tried it from a half dozen remote servers. it works just fine. So it's not. That was only locally. It's not working locally. Works fine but if i actually tried to access the plex server with a plex app from anywhere but on the local network it does not work. And it says her not available outside your network. Your server is signed into plex but is not reachable from outside your network even though i have verified that it is You could connect gas but that sounds like it's it's like it's working. Well not working. Could it be something with permissions. Maybe create a new account. Sorry i know. That's the worst when somebody says something like that but you can try making if it can reach it if you can ping it or routed. That means it's there and i can. I can tell to it to that port and talk to that service So it's gotten excessive. I did that then. Then help to deregister the server somehow all right. Well if anyone knows. Hit me up. On and dan benjamin. Yeah let me know all right. It wasn't in the toilet. It was just charging leaving the toilet a lot my phone. I'm sending you this photograph. Here's all ex. You sent me is not in the best condition for sent me but it just happened to see it right after we did our show and not on you but like this is the one but it was much more orange. I feel like when i was a kid. Looks like it's been like stored in somebody's garage wing. Was a princess leia right here. Do you know that she's right here. Let's see picture this pretty lady so anyway i sent you that. I guess we could talk. About how much would you not good. We have time for just like one more little bit right. Yeah we don't have to do it. We also bounce. But i like doing our showdown. I hope it helps people. That's what we're here for a man now see now. I'm a sense to you and because you're like the rest of the internet you're mainly gross. My keyboard is okay. Yes and i blow it. I blew it like last week. And it's it's still all dusty. I'll look at her. Look at look at princess leia worth so. My suggestion was going to be me. We thought we were talking about journeys or anything so this this all started a few weeks ago with your journey into the google home haw and by extension like getting more into catching up on. What's doable in google. Calendar and seems like you're almost kind of like not exactly starting over but you ready for a new paradigm calendars. It sounded like you've been exploring counters. Correct that is correct and it has been working really well. I find that when dealing with it on the computer. I've tried a ton of different software. I finally eventually went with fantastic. Al on the computer and i. I'm it's good. It's good and it showed. It's definitely sorry my microphone spending around. It's very much got. Its own idea about how this stuff should work. Yes just a question of when you want the editorial app for example a lot of like thirty seven signals stuff was at a often in a way that was not the way my brain works right. Fantastic i just see benefits out the wazoo with how things put together it's really grand. It's the integration. Wants to be used as a natural language thing. He's got good key commands but also templates. It's got calendar sets. I'd actually love to talk about fantastico. That'd be something fun for us to talk about anything you prefer over that not yet. I mean i'm open to literally any recommendation at all. If you like the busy cal. Busy contact sort of vibe. Two things probably worth checking out because of this bears. Repeating in my eyes is Sink is knock on wood mostly solved problem in a way that it did not used to be so knowing. That sink is a mostly solve problem. You could try out anything. The worst thing you like. What you're you're risking off logging. That's like the most the biggest downside but layton unless really it you can always delete it later but you. That's i love that you can try different things. You're not obligated to manually move all your events just to try something out. It shouldn't if it's made well. It shouldn't damage your stuff. Exactly and one of the things that i really like about fantastic al for example. And this is something that i'm I'm kind of on the fence about it in also liking it. Because i'm the kind of person that i don't like a lot of stuff in the menu bar and i use bartender to kind of manage that until one of the really cool things at fantastic all does it will put your next meeting up in the menu bar so and it there's a link to zoom. Yes it will have to do is click it. Pops open the environment takes. He's so nice. And that kind of thing like those little details like you can just glance at your menu bar and know when next meaning is what that's crazy now. i love the debtors. that's also kind of old school. Hey this is your mac. You should be able to customize it like. It's not over the top. But if you go to preferences you'll see there's several different options for how how you want the console. What do you want do in the menu bar so yeah you get like black and white versus color but like in my case. I just want to see the day of the month. Like i don't want a whole bunch of stuff but you could also have a do stuff like show you instead like this very old school very now. Up to date sort of stuff is like the show me like a text. What my next appointment is sure that in my menu bar which i don't use that or like that but i'm very glad it's there. I could see that being very much. Somebody's jam but having the right. I said this last time. But i think it's worth repeating having the right. Application makes all the difference. It makes it the difference between whether or not you use it and the natural language thing for those who haven't tried this with a calendar. It's pretty cool. You hit the little plus button. This works on. Ios works on. Your mac works. Wherever you hit the little plus button and you just start typing lunch with merlin at one p m at the sushi place or whatever and it will understand the simple as lunch with merlin one pm at name a sushi place right and it will sign this. Yeah exactly and it will tell you and it can be automatically set to tell you to leave on time so instead of just thirty minutes before it'll tell you when to leave based on current traffic conditions and you can even pick whether you wanted to use apple maps or google maps to figure that out. It's very trick to pick a calendar slash into start typing. In the first calendar it matches the type in my case. A lot of stuff if it's not going to be awesome which calendar to put it on when you're typing that the default five slash b. I is starts putting turns pink and puts it on big family calendar nice. It doesn't mean anything you can do. That could be hands off. Yeah it's a really. It's really cool. App it really. It covers the waterfront and it works. You know on all the different things and now they have card hop to card hop is now included in your subscription. Fantastic which is great. But it's again going back to that. Las affi of having a if you think of the calendar as a database and these are different ways to access the database. They're different portals of of that. Same data different representations or views of the data. That's a really neat way to think of it because then you can say okay. Well i've got this one on this system this one on this system because i use them in different ways but then that information is still going to show up accurately in those different places. It's really really nice. I am switched over. Now it's even a metaphor or analogy is probably what it is. I mean it's essentially a database. That's such a good way to think about it because it you know really we think of it because we come from a background least in my case being old of a calendar being basically what twelve or thirteen sheets of paper the hang on the wall there in a grid. Yeah and yeah i mean. That's that's how we choose to represent time of cool but like really the calendar quote unquote on my computer database. And i can look at it. However i want in the same way that i could open something up in filemaker pro craft or whatever or you know air table or any of those things and look at it the way that i want. Because it's very well organized information. I mean that's you know a spreadsheet is just the database. You haven't met yet. Look how about this to do a really quick was the stop on things and fantastic all that i like. We wrap up with a couple like just specific For all time calendar absolutes I'm so i'm on my mac in tosh computer now. I don't need my mac. I'm a big surfing as interested about fantastic famous. Go i have one. Here is three point four just for reference which i think should be the latest version so dan said you know the marquee feature and other things do this now but fantastico has always are. They did it early and they've always done it pretty well. The say natural language. It's a little bit of misnomer. Really natural typing right. Yeah you could talk to your devices to and sometimes it gets that. But it's the once you get that it's very much like when you first using quicksilver or launch bar. Whatever like it takes awhile before you like. Let go and let god like for example like i didn't get even halfway. Decent at typing on an iphone is still until i stopped trying to type the words flawlessly and instead i adapted to the way that the iphone was able to help me out by. You know the all the ways we've heard about the big target areas for the thing you're likely to hit etc etc right like you can try and like i like to say do you. Do you wanna do. You wanna be writer. Do you wanna be happy like if you wanna be happy. Just let the iphone do the heavy lifting. If you wanna be happy fantastic. Do its thing for you. You know learned to stop worrying and love. Love the bomb saying something. I love about this. I do the preferences. I get such strong. I or one of the first or second things. I noticed in an app usually is like how i feel about looking at the preferences or like you know the thing we're like this is understandable looking for some of my friends like scratching each apps but when something especially that you like paid money for and you gotta help. Yeah i was looking preferences and how you pop up. Help help us not available for name of that. And you're like oh really seems like help should be available for name of that. You know documentation. Is everything. Like i i would kill right now. Really good. documentation on the irs. Home plus app. It's so powerful. But you really gotta figure so much stuff out on your own you know what is what is heartbeat mean on a smart home device night right. I looked it up. And i still don't understand but it's in. There is a feature things. I love both fantastic how it works across the platforms. It has the apple logging thing. So if you get an account you pay for an account and like you can just use your that cool ass applied the sign in thing. If you really like is really great is templates so templates are where you can say like. There's a certain kind of event that i am going to be using fairly off. And maybe something like your staff meeting. Or maybe something. Like go to your. Why would you want that if you can just type. Well yes but like. If you're like me you're weird. I liked to use. This is a fairly recent thing. I guess someone. Obviously i let you have emoji in my events so like you know one of them is one of my templates. His suv steak. And it's got a little red stake in there like a little human heart. Ironically enough not not a human heart but you know bovine heart. It's the heart of the bovine. Which is steak mu steer steer not a cow anyways. So that's in there. And i got a stake emoji but tempering means that like you remember several things about it like intelligently remember how long the event was calendar is going so fast that little plus button up at the top here on the mackinac does that. I also. this is not a new thing. But i love the way fantastical does are these are calendar sets. I want to say And the pull this up. So let's say you are one of those people who. I don't know if you have so many calendars that you need. Calendar sets well. I hope those aren't all your calendar because you have too many calendars you have more than three or four. Five calendars for yourself. Okay if that works for you. That's great i think. This is probably most useful for management types who are subscribed to many people's calendars or like team calendars and that kind of thing. Does that sound about right. Yeah i think so. But there's a real power in being able to customize such back to work thing and having some ability to to make decisions in life about how you want things presented and under what certain context things can happen a passing. This is something that busy. Calvin good out for a good long while And i think fantastic how is getting better at is that you say okay for example. Let's go with the easiest one in the world which is like okay. Show my this kind of neanderthal. You wanna see. I wanna see my home calendar stuff when i'm at home right so i need to pull that up or like whenever i go to the office. I don't want to see the home stuff. Because apparently part of my life just ceases to exist. If i can't see it hi dad. I don't have object object permanence but that's smart right like let's say you're in a mode. Here's a really obvious. Which is that. You're you're at your job your job and you're in a certain mode one of your modes might be kind of monkey man scheduling mode if you're among scheduling mode. You need a way to look at all of these kinds of things and then even filtered and sorted in a way that sensible to you maybe. This is a list view not as a block. Calendar thing. and it's really good at doing that and you get to do stuff all the usual like great stuff. That and i realized not all of this is new but i don't know if y'all know that all this stuff exists like did you know that in every cable if you can't get on your calendar get a different calendar for example you could say like. Don't show me alerts from this calendar so if you've if you're in one of those godforsaken things where you're like somebody just got. You subscribe to something from work or school or whatever. Yeah you flip a bit. I mean for me. I'll make that a real light. You know like a nickel nine nine nine c. c. or whatever i'll make like not real garish all make it a smaller type size but like very much. I will say no please. Just because i was subscribed to the warriors calendar for one season. Like every i don't need to blue pts for every basketball game in or out of town. So i did eventually get rid of that calendar. You know really cutting the baby in half type situation. Did you see what i'm saying. That's that's nice customization. And then we take it to the next level that i kind of teased the second ago. Which is you can have factors by. Which certain calendars on mac like pop up. Okay so you can hand. It's good so the menu. The is called automatically activate at cohen and based on a time or a location you can have your calendar counter set change. That's really cool right so like if your laptop. They like you're at coffee shop. You could have based on this location at this time of day. Bring up these calendars. But you know i guess. Maybe i'm trying to be a little too subtle here. But i don't think you need to see all your calendars all the time. Unless you do in which case go for it. But i think that's a nice starting point is that gives you the opportunity to become more aware. This is a tool that affords you an interesting opportunity which is like. Do you want to see some of these things. Some of these places and it isn't just a cool cute thing you flip on doesn't because you bought it it enables you to say like oh. Is there a better way. That i can choose to have this information presented to me and i think sounds corny but like i think when an app does that well i suppose great that it addresses the needs of people who have complex needs for that stuff. But it's also that now that if you're a self aware intelligent person you know how the opportunity to rethink knowing what the tool can do. Start looking for serendipitous moments of improvement. I think that's really cool that it does that. Got all the stuff got weather. It's got all the things it does. All of this though in a really pretty and fairly streamlined package. It doesn't feel garish. If it does start to feel garish. That's probably your fault because you can always turn off. Oh i don't want to see that it's partly cloudy. I don't wanna see the temperature. I don't wanna see a second time zone discovered that that's really cool. You can always say like in my case i always see civic. Time is my default but it also shows me on the right it also shows me eastern time which can be surprisingly handy great What else was going to say about fantastic allen particular and no competition. No whatever you should try the ones that work for you. But the ones i after years of playing with almost all the calendar apps the ones that still really land for me are Are fantastic. how and now they have card hop which is there really cool contact program and then You know this is a little bit like i. Don't know vm. Actually now it's not like that at all but didn't like i say also busy count makes great stuff was called busy. Mac is the company and so that they may be busy busy. Mac and for those of you. The real heads no. That's john and the team that did now up to date and now context in the nineties seemed to a lot of the same people or at least it was a lot of the same people. But yeah i ran into. I saw john mac world and he's like you know we talked about now today. Donald war now today was one of the great apps. Dan dan dan dan card hop but fantastico people by flexi bits card up finally has brought back something in a kind of inform away but a way of saying. Show me everybody who works at five by five. Show everybody who works at apple. Like everybody in my contacts can just point out. I wanna see nineteen ninety four. Maybe ninety six point is in the mid nineties now. Contacts had semantic companies in the mid ninety s. if. I said that this company is apple computer and i always talk to the same way it would know. Show me everybody who works at apple computer. Like how do we not have that everywhere in the year of our lord. Twenty twenty one bananas to me. One of the it be like say. Oh yeah we plan to add phone numbers in a future release. Were pretty excited about that. Next dot released. We're going to add phone numbers. And and maybe email addresses company samantha companies. Look it up. And then i wanted to give some inspiring just minutes sparring tips before rebounds. Just real quick easy obvious. Merle calendar focused tips. Hundred focus is there anything else you want to pop in with. No good keep going. I think this is obviously very influenced. The influence really driven by david allen's thinking on a lot of this stuff. I think some of his most sort of under the radar first round classic. Thinking is actually about calendars. It's not just about making to to do list. It's about doing your to do list. People leave out that part but but his calendar stuff david allen from getting things done and it has some really calendar vice and i. It's become really really important for me. But yeah these concepts. Gt that everybody whizzes. Past on their way to like. How do i feel less crazy by the weekend. Well you become less crazy by the weekend by like actually learning the kind of philosophy behind why this stuff works. And i guess there's a there's a super pattern gt. And i think there should be a superpower in life which is about dissimulation to put the way david talks about in the book is like you shouldn't have to think all the time to do your work if you work requires thinking if a task requires thinking that's great but you shouldn't have to think a bow your work all the time. You should be doing your work if you're thinking about your work often than you would like if you find your thinking a ratio of thinking about you're doing your work is not where you'd like to be. There are ways to improve that now. Is that a silly like solipsism. It's really super not. Because when i say thinking about your work thinking about your work and there's thinking about your work as peter drucker said sixty years ago knowledge. Work is not only about doing a thing. It's about deciding what needs to be right so that kind of thinking of like you deciding how to apply some kind of librarian this situation or whatever it is that you're gonna do. Yeah there's thinking what i'm talking about is like do you really need to be figuring out your job. Like quad job. Do you want to be doing that six times a day if you do. That's cool but what i'm saying is if you follow to a more. Gd path ambiguous. You you really over a of the completely bs holes in your career that you have just decided by fiat are. Because you're big important salaryman like your life is complicated. So you have to there all day long and i'm being mean on purpose because grow up. You don't need to think about your work as much as you think. And you can improve on that by Patterns of disembarkation. You stop fooling yourself and acting like is because you're worlds more complicated than anyone else. It's not make earlier faster front end decisions about stuff like you'll never feel bad about procrastinating on a task. If you've never had agreed to that in the first place because you knew you'd never do it. Well that's cheating damn right. It's cheating like david says like i. I like being lazy. I would prefer to be lazy. If i'm doing things that require me to be anything but lazy. I'm not going to be performing optimally. Why would i continue to bear the burden of an incredible amount of unnecessary. If i could find a way to do less of that because in some ways the ultimate this ambiguous is knowing what your job is if you know what your job is if you know what needs to be done like you're never gonna you're not selling you're never going to lack confidence but you're gonna develop more confidence and a feeling of competence if you descend big. And what do i mean by that. Well i'm gonna try and get down to the tactical level of like it's really important guys. It's really important. What you name things. It's really important that you be complete about things on your calendar all that really really boring stuff. But like don't don't leave yourself till turn your career into a series of puzzles. Like why do that if you have to be somewhere on a date if to be more on the planet doing something at a specific time on the six one six time line and if that thing will die if it doesn't happen guess what. That's a really good candidate for being on your calendar if it's something you're like thinking thinking about thinking about if you don't know does that go as an eight hour brainstorm thing item on your calendar and that's probably how you name it. Because why not right now. That is so ambiguous why that the calendar is the final destination before existence. It's not the it's not a big fluffy cloud that you mix your existential butter into Now it's getting the stuff accomplished treated like Contract-related sacred treat it like it matters. And then be unambiguous about how you phrase and what does that look like. It's analogous to a good subject line in an email. You can ill-afford anything but a great subject. Line when you're writing an email if you actually want to have success in the world right but with your family it needs to be something where people can eighty percent of. What the messages from the subject line. Oh it's too complicated for that. Well then it probably shouldn't be an email dude. That's crazy Request for meeting that kind of thing. Instead i think hug in advice such as it is cannot be useful if you try to make it. Apply to everybody for all times. That's not that's not advice. That pap okay. So i'm gonna be giving you some fairly pointed editorial piece. Oh v on this because anything else would be bunkum. Embiid used about your subject lines and email and guess what you want to be unambiguous every aspect of what goes on your counter especially if other people need to see it right and make decisions in the in your absence about what that event means. That could be an assistant. That could be a boss right like like when you commenting code coming encounters. I understand are documenting. Code is not just a way for you to remember how this thing works or why you did it. This way that one time in april. It's also way for somebody else. Correct wait for somebody else to look at your code and not need to interact with you. In order to coach speak for itself into the can't speak for itself there's documentation is. Isn't that kind of the ideas for other people. It's not necessarily for you right right. So can a person looking at your calendar whether it's because they're insistent robust or whether it's because there's somebody who's participating in this shared event can they glean almost everything they will need to know about this event from the way that you have put it onto the calendar and you're probably thinking of course i'm good at this. I'm good salaryman. We'll know like really. Let's go into this though like. Is there a muscular verb or like incredibly unambiguous now or very muscular verb somewhere in the event you know. Most events are nouns but then but there can also be verbs in their. If it's something that's helpful we'll get more on this in a second but like pick it really clear and unambiguous right. I mean the date is included in a calendar item. So you don't need to add extra stuff. Don't i mean unless you makes you happy. You don't need to say tuesday staff meeting if they know it's tuesday and its staff meeting like what's going to happen at staff meeting where we meet with the staff okay. But the meeting was successful when what happens. Oh how the staff meeting. Anyway see a cake in the conference room now. Maybe that goes in a note. Maybe that goes an attached document. What do people need to prep for. What is the what is the. Why are we doing this. Who else will be there. What do i need to prepare. Where is it you know in terms like do. I need to be physically somewhere. Is there an updated correct link with the password for whatever i need to know to get logged into this and don't just don't assume that everybody has all the same domain equipment that you do like if you're asking them to be on some wackadoo podcasting apps and only runs in chrome. I'll thank you. What a what a pleasure to be here if you if you need them to be set up on that wackadoo app and make sure that like the kind of who deleted chrome from all of your machines wall. Let brother know. Don't assume that. I know what a bomb bastard is. What is bombast. Oh it's a completely you know it's a it runs in and silver light you know and You put on chrome yeah. I don't have that. Oh i guess. I should've mentioned that in the calendar event right this ambiguous. Yeah you should be able to act like they're time matters. Act like your time matters. Put it all in there. And i'm having fun with this but you know there's stephen the what i would consider the very basic stuff like if spence won't do and i know if seems weird creepy people but somebody's about something in particular somebody pro made well wants to me and they'll send me Usually good short email. That's how you know. I'm more likely to respond to it. You know it is a copy and paste the email into the notes field why that dogs both of our memories. Like if you're out there like have you ever had to do things like run run a survey or like Do user testing or any of that stuff. You're repeating the same task over and over with different people. How in the hell would you remember. Who's who and what's what well one check learn from a friend janice that sounds like a spreadsheet to me if there's a process of like a publishing style process that has six parts with dates and progress. That's a calendar thing but it's also very much a spreadsheet thing the calendar is where you nailed down. What's happening but then spreadsheet where that data would go. I would not store that in that notes field but somebody talk about a gig or someone wants to talk about. You know whatever it is. Maybe you're hiring somebody for something. Gosh just really treat both of you so well. By putting so much information into notes include again including they would need to know so we. We offered a test last week or a sort of a mental mental model or a question to ask yourself which is sort of an introduction to the partway through part of the introduction. Last week about calendars. I said well. I started asking yourself not simply win. Will i need to know this. Or how will. I need to know this. Like what kind of alert do i want. What happens if this what happens. If i miss this alert where the consequences of missing that alert and i think that becomes a very interesting way to not just think about prioritization. And what you do but to the derive a smarter model. Not all beeps created equal. Like my watch only makes a couple sounds. It's crazy frustrating. So i i know what a text alert sounds like an i know what a non text notification sounds like but i might miss a bunch of stuff. I'm not like riding on my watch. Real hard rock so in the same way that suggesting you think about what happens. If i miss this notification i think another to ask yourself here is like if i've decided that like a calendar is where this goes. Calendar is the good place for this. It does really help to do some project based outcome thinking like. We're having this meeting because x. In order to accomplish that we will need to do why and the completely foreseeable follow up for. This will be z. Now not all of that goes in the calendar event but it needs to go somewhere. Because you're good salaryman and you need to. You need to handle all that stuff running along. I think trying to minimize ambiguity. I was tempted to say something. Like let people know how you roll with. How you do the calendar But i'm gonna put differently and hopefully in a kinder way which is like you know. Be the change. You want to see in the calendar. Think andy said that. I'm not saying you should be like merlin and browbeat everybody about about a better best practices But i i do think like you can teach by example in the same way that the ultimate teach by example in some ways is being on time for things i feel like that is a tiny little moan add of of culture and socialization is like. Oh you know. Suddenly i noticed that. I'm not on time for meetings more often than other people who are on time for meetings. I should probably be better about that. So lead by example write better emails. Do better google count. I mean. I can't tell you dan how much i want. To put this positivity how much my credibility the credibility i feel for a particular person. goes through the roof if they do this kind of stuff. Yeah i might feel fairly neutral sort of inert about them. Not doing these things again. Not going should be the please me but like you don't need account and scrape and say i really like that one. I don't care like let me see it in what you do if you don't miss. Don't mistreat the waitress and don't send shitty calendar things. Just don't do it. You know what i mean. It says a lot about it. Says you don't value your own time. So why in the christ would you ever value mine For december first impression so the handshake. How's the handshake is too tight. Isn't exactly to block too strong. Tesco calendar sets notes nets new oilfield. Descend big you ity. Yeah mish everything on there is a deal with yourself that you refuse to break unless you need to Because that's where you find. Were the big rocks in. The road are Do think people got their money's worth today. You have more than that eighteen minutes extra who. Oh do have a hard time. No i'm saying they did. Their money's worth right now. Why are seventy eight minutes into this. They better be seventy eight. Okay okay. well let's see. We got was twenty ninth. Yeah people have you can hit us up on something if you have questions or comments but mostly just just for questions if you want know about rabbit rabbit just you know. Just keep it and things on the internet until we talk back ring ring ring for a long time. You know because we're not near the front door you know what i'm saying. It's really it's always loud with the shop vac on so let's up all right. I love you lovey. To merlin man. Talk talk

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Top 10 Awesome Characters in Movies

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Top 10 Awesome Characters in Movies

"If you haven't heard about anchor it's the easiest way to make a podcast. Let me explain. It's free the creation tools to allow you to create an edit. Your podcast right from your phone or your computer anchor will distribute your podcast for you so it can be heard on spotify apple podcast and many more you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership and everything you need is to make a podcast in one place so download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started is and welcome back to the podcast everything. You'd never need to know about movies music and theater. I am your host man and it's only because of our guests that i would ever dare to play as the intro music you. U2 it's the it's only because of her and it's very excited because I've known for a couple years We haven't spoken for a little bit and we're this is our chance to reconnect. Wile covert is starting to it's kind of in its middle ground so And i i hope to have her back on if she enjoys a having a good time. So let me introduce you to my guest. She is a mom. She is a school counselor. She has t enthusiasts and she is a self proclaimed wanna-be calico critter lazy. Jomon my friend. Heidi heidi welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. I can finally get A guest on a podcast about her name brown wannabe too. So i listened to her weekly. Like oh man. I love to experience this. I'm glad you came on the podcast. We were talking for a little bit hiding. And i know each other from College she was year ahead of me. And we did Improv theater together. So we've known each other for a good while in france for very friendly for the most part and realizing that we're both very big sinophile so heidi and i started talking about things and we're here with a Top ten list but before we get to that Because of society's first time on the show. I'd like to ask her to very important important questions. These are life changing important questions. Heidi i need to ask you. What is your favorite movie. And what was the last movie you saw all right. So i don't know what the anagram as any graham nine with one wing so sometimes decision making is really hard for me but So i'm going to tell the other movies that i love and in my ultimate all time favorite so. I also love the movie. Amway spirited away. Akira kurosawa's dreams. But my favorite movie has to be the darjeeling limited Yeah I'm very social person in. It's a very spiritual comets also fun and the most interesting thing that happened was one i. I watched the movie with my husband. I got a phone call right. I don't want to spoil it. But during a certain scene. I got a phone call that my gone passed away. Oh goodness and it was interesting. Gone other was a very lively spirited woman who was my mom's sister and it was just interesting and every time i watched mood i think about like just what spirituality means to me what How in life. Sometimes people set certain rules or certain like rituals. But how at the same time when you plan too much. You miss out on many of the guests around you. So i love that movie. I think that's my ultimate favorite. You know it's hilarious. But also it's visually beautiful soundtrack. I just absolutely love it. I know people. Say it's not wes anderson's fast but i love it and i i think i think it's a very close to west anderson's top like the top of the best wes anderson. I think The one he did. Steve steve zil This yup zoo is kind of on the down low. Even though many people disagree with me on that. So i i kind of. I agree with you on that absolutely. And what was the last movie you saw so my birthday was tuesday. That's right happy birthday to guess husband. I watched well. There's a story behind so on saturday. We decided to watch Oh my gosh. Patterson which is the. Jim jarek movie. Did you see it. I've not seen it. But i've heard of him. So we voiced find adam we find adam driver just a really interesting person study like his military background and unlike sometimes he is very subtle but sometimes he over acts and he just exhausts and we loved patterson like we absolutely loved it or my husband and were like. Oh let's research other movies. Jim and like oh. We saw this when we saw this one and then he saw only lovers left alive and you clicked. It goes. Oh heidi your celebrity crush tom. Hilton's now's like okay. We're gonna watch. And i'd love till the swin to and this is going to be the movie. Go watch every your birthday because we just had so much fun watching it. We were cracking up at like. The one liners that tom. Huddleston had as like the depress atta character after the key high. We've had one one line was like tillis wounds. Perky sister comes in and she's like anna's going to take us out. Know adams not going to take you out. My husband admired both Interpreter spoken using ion tj. And i'm and i and f j we were both like. Oh my god. We felt that in our life before are extroverted friends and it was just great and i love movies. That are very subtle and tell a lot without a lot of business bam you know. Just kind of them Very authentic acting just to vampires Reflecting upon life going through life And we just. It's a movie for film lovers. There's no blood or gore in it. Despite the fact they're drinking blood but it was really good. Heard of heard i've seen i think i saw the trailer or at least like a preview of it. I my it's on my list. It's on my new watch it but then we became parents and then we just kind of forgot about it. So it's gonna be our highest birthday. William you've holidays and stuff so that makes sense you know And at it sounds like that's something that really awesome that you share with your husband which is very very good. You know My wife and i before we had our son we were in the middle of the Watching the Hundred movies we were going list by list by list. And i think we got up to like fifty. When he came around we were we were going through a lot of them. Don't like watching just so we could see them Interesting very interesting saturday. We tend to watch a new movie. We went through an caracella. Been an nba. Kind of picks. Some criterion ways. Sometimes we just find things and watch it and it's just amusing. We live right near an independent film theatre dates. There are a lot of kids and then covet and of course. Yeah yeah exactly but one. That's now that's exciting so From me i might. I have two favorite movies of all time. And i don't think they've ever changed Every so often they'll be like a new one that comes on that. I'm kinda like all this my my go-to now But it's got to be roman holiday and it's got to be casablanca. I love to when i was in high school. I went through a phase where i wanted to just be audrey hepburn. I read like while fees everything But yeah so those so Tonight we are going to be talking about Our topic is top. Ten awesome characters in film now. I have to preface this that these are opinion based awesome characters so it is based solely upon the ones that And we'll give you the reasons we'll go over everything but basically it's Based on what. I think and what heidi things and If you haven't have Your own top. Ten awesome candice. I say this on every episode but and no one's taking me up on it but if you want to share please email me email me. and matthew. Dark garland edgy mail dot com and can be really awesome to get your feedback as well but this is a very exciting. And this is a great Top ten lists and since and this will be very interesting because Obviously as i said before heidi and i are friends but unlike other episodes i usually have heidi's list in front of me. So i can at least react this unfiltered because i will actually be able to react in real time to hide. liska. She is not given to me and the same thing with me. I not giving my list. Heidi so this is like very very exciting. So i'm very excited about this I ready to get started. I am all right. So why don't you give me your honorable. Mentions first place i have. I'm the might. I am not rushing but it's bowed aside from what we do in the shadows character. He just has the best. One liners now whole thing with like the base on the cat. And when my husband and i got married we had our honeymoon in prague and we watched that on the flight to prague and we were laughing the entire time and it took the whole thing with the beast and everything. It's just hilarious will take away. Td's genius we have to say that the takeaway is an absolute genius in that movie. Emily is great. It's just hilarious I could probably watch it a million times and still laugh. As the first time. I watched it Next stomach list. I have dr franken for from rocky horror picture show. Yes i'm so excited you are at cup many times. It's just the energy and the song. Sweet transvestite is just such like a powerhouse. I just feel energetic. Like just the energy of it is so much fun in and you guys say tim. Tim curry sooner currently tim. Curry impersonating mick jagger and someway to lake. It's just you know like. I said earlier an introvert but when i go to rocky horror that's just kind of like roof find and you know. It's more a youtube video. I can assume you. Know some of the broadway actors Terrence mann this video of terrence mann singing sweet transvestite which is absolutely amazing. He is on par with tim. Curry as well so Okay and can be your your other honorable mention. I have gannett off from lord of the rings you it's just perfectly casted. I have nothing more to say at you. You know he would be unless the third one. I was originally just going to say you know what. I'm going to leave that blank. But then i said like last minute. I don't even have a written if you see on my bullet journal. Any vendor reimburse cassette ganda. he's awesome. And i love him. We'll just with the wind. you shall not pass. it's it's it's iconic it's iconic at this point We'll those that's a great list. So number one on my honorable mentions list Is andy do frayne. Which is very very interesting. Because i just recently watched shawshank redemption again and it was one of those things that i had to kind of think about because he is. I mean Speaking as an extrovert myself. He has very introverted throughout most of that movie. But he's a silent genius through most of it like planning this and slowly planning to the point. Where at the very end. He deserves to have that smug smile on his face when he walks into the bank. Spoiler for movie. That's twenty years old at this point. things right. But that smug look they as of like. Will you please put this in your outgoing mail. And it's that the incrimination against ward and I love it and tim. Robbins is absolutely brilliant in that movie. He really really really brings it home. the second one is when you might not know Emmanuel from captains courageous. This is spencer trink spencer tracy's character in in in captains courageous captains courageous Heidi if you've never seen it is a brilliant brilliant movie it's Based sorta robin Based on kipling movie and basically it's about a selfish brat who grew up privileged and in boarding school he and his father had no veal relationship. And the father just decides. I'm going to take him on my cruise ship in our my My boat yacht and he actually falls off the yacht and he gets saved by this man called manual. Who's played by spencer tracy and actually he ends up on a A spooner out of gloucester massachusetts and he actually learns how to be a decent human being. He learns about hard work. He learns about What life really is and the little things of life. I mean he. Everything is basically stripped away and he is rebuilt as a decent human being understands what things aren't what life is and m. and And what losses and it's a fascinating fasting movie and and freddie bartholomew is absolutely brian as the kid and manual is such a. He's just a gentle soul decent person and just trying to do the best he can see. This is hollywood. Back in the nineteen forties and fifties. Spencer tracings playing a portuguese sailor. It's like it's like mickey rooney in In breakfast the tiffany. But spencer tracy pulls it off way better like it's not offensive like me me being hispanic. I'm not offended. By the fact that spencer tracy doing listening does he doesn't brilliant job That anyway i would have to check out that movie. I love any like redemption ark. Yes especially as a person who works as school counselor. I'm always reminding my students that there's areas of growth than everything and media teaches empathy. So every time. I watch a turn redemption are come more and more inspired to help others. Yeah for the most part in. Maybe they'll be a series in the future that will talk about redemption arts and the best redemption. Oxide the movies. I myself am. I think that he knows them. I'm i'm a playwright officially now. I'm actually getting commissions. Most my characters are searching for something. In most of the time they're searching for redemption because it's the most interesting in the most relatable for everyone honestly But anyway so that. Yeah so Andy frame annual and then. My last one was one just. Because i think he's hysterical corky saint clair for waiting for guffman. I think he's just so ridiculously amazing. And it's funny. Because i knew a million directors throughout my entire seattle career who basically quirky saying clinton you know this is a guy who Tried on knbr on in new york didn't work out is directing in blame In the skip. This town called blame and he. He's doing all these crazy things and he says he has a wife. Whatever have to see. Joe hadn't seen the show on. Hbo summer heights high. Yes i have the desert. It's it's really close you can. You can withdraw. You can draw a line from quirky saint clair right to that that gentleman And chris chris. And christopher gasping playing instance absolutely brilliant. Like you know. You can't go wrong. An and i don't know if you knew this but Christopher guest's latest movie mascots which is on netflix. Quirky saint clair returns as a as a mascot director and he's sitting in there. It's not. it's not as epic as i was. I was hoping it's not like you. Know luke skywalker showing up at the end of force awakens. But it's it's still a great nod and he still as crazy as he always has been But it's fun so anyway those are are on will mentions. Now we're gonna get into the list so Heidi give me your number ten. Most awesome character in film. Please and heroin maud. I had continously with this and we. That was the booby wash. Cova began like earth time. We both watched harold and maude and big wes anderson fans as i mentioned before and i think we borrowed it from the library but we just like have we have a. We always borrow a highly movies. And we just haven't got to it. And i the cover was interesting to me in everything but ruth gordon just hits it out of the park in the whole like trying something new every day and i just a perfect Cova de thinking about her attitude towards life and her joy in her whimsey and he he's awesome. It's fi- only watch that movie once and i think what i'm gonna do is wait until covent ends in. Watch it again just like kind of like a chapter. Like tonto two bookends. Yeah that's such a great choice that such a great funny. I haven't really thought about that movie. A lot since code began but it was in the back of my mind. I love that song That they play in it. I just i like and i. It's funny because i grew up as simpsons fan. And as i watch i like that's what the simpsons foods in movie and made me cry It was just such a beautiful thing. it really is. yeah. I oh my god. I gotta get back to you. That's that's amazing All right so yeah so. My number. Ten is actually rooster cogburn Now specifically rooster cock burn as played by Jeff bridges in the cohen brothers. Remake of True grid. I'm not a huge fan of john. Wayne i never have been He just doesn't do anything to me like for. Maybe i'm not gonna manley enough to care about him shooting a bunch of people and thinking. That's excuse me bad or whatever but but but the character jeff jeff. Bridges plays is so him in. It's like basically they took the big lebowski and put him in the middle of the west and it's like okay. He can't understand him. I like it. Because almost i can put on sub subtitles and still not understand. What the heck he's saying. I but but jeff bridges makes it not be Not be weird and not be understated and the most amazing part of that movie. It's a shootout between him. And barry pepper at the when he's trying to bring bring him in and He says fill your hand and a charge at each other in. Its way more epic in the cohen brothers version than the original true grit version. So it's It's i i love. I love that care to and again. I love jeff. Bridges redemption of him carrying mattie all across the entire plane back to town so that she doesn't dialing like that is such a beautiful thing that he ends up doing And i i just. I love it. It's amazing Hiding number nine for you please. No i don't think a lot of people know this movie. Are this character but names. Hana and she's from the movie wolf children which is an anime movie. And it's a movie about a woman who falls in love with a man who's actually wear wool and she has two children with them but it's awesome after she has the second so she has one child her daughter and their you're apart after right after she has the second child it's in the wolves instinct to go out and gather food enduring that being guys he goes after an animal falls off a bridge and dies so this woman is left alone with two children. Who are where wolves. And you. And i are both parents. We know that toddlers extremely emotional so every time one of the toddlers get scared or excited or something they get their ears up and they get excited a Turn to also. She's left alone taking care of these in the city at first taking care of these children and isolated and alone and afraid and she's like there's one scene where her daughter gets sick and she's running carrying her daughter and she looks at one side and she sees a hospital. look the veterinary clinic into the. I don't know which one to choose ends up having to move out into the country and kind of take monitoring owned but she finds a sense of community of farmers and stuff. And i saw years ago at an after became a mom. I was like it was mother's day and housing. Let's get we'll children borrowed from the library. And now that's armory watch every year mother's day because he's not like an like she's not like a she's kinda like not a very interesting character herself. The situation she's put in. I think every mom needs to watch that movie because you kind of like either. I don't have where children early. So i don't think i do But you feel like a lot of feeling she has like she has this love for these children that she Are unpredictable cannot control. She accepts them for who they are. she feels lonely. She feels scared. She's just a she's like a really good mom. She is just amazing and as a mom myself. I just keep going. I think about that movie often. I think before. I had kids. I would not have put her on the list but now that i have two children inspired me second older girl near younger boy. Daughters temperament is very similar to the orbiter. It's like the wild one. But as she gets older she wants to be more humanity. She asks like mommy. Can i go to school and she like. She's like i will like i promise i'll be good girl. I promise i won't turn into a wolf in front of the kids and stuff. And i'm seeing that my daughter as she gets older like she was a very headstrong spirited. Little chum as she gets older she's starting to become like she's very shy with people and like does her best and i find it very relatable by always recommended to moms in like i even. It'd be like i get it if you don't like anime it's not your thing i get that as we just success a beautiful film and you will cry like this. Mom is amazing. It's funny when you tell people like about anime and say it will cry. Because you can i i. I'm not a huge anime person. By the anime have watched is very specific in the sense of i've watched very specific ones. That made me weep uncontrollably by the end of the movie. And it's it's it's absolutely beautiful you forget is just threat gorgeous. Every and i always tell people. The plot nate like they chuckle. They're like oh. My gosh woman falls in love with a rail of the. Yeah i it is a my husband. I make jokes at the beginning scene. Where lincoln ass like this thing in legacy the wearables handle all gosh but when you get on with the movie and look at the message is just it's so good. It's amazing boy in the retort for that should be You watch twilight so shot up our well. That's an awesome. That's awesome number nine so my number nine is again you might. You probably have seen this movie. But it's Actually majorcan from dr strangelove and since limbic from dr strangelove and the only reason i love him is that he has like no he just. He's he's following orders. She's doing the best he can. And he just goes all hog while at the end when he's riding the the bomb down and he can't help himself and at the same time through the whole thing. He's so to me he's the most real of all the characters in that like he just doesn't care and slim pickens. Just bring himself and it's just so crazy ridiculous to me that it so It is so beautiful and so absolutely amazing. So yeah majorcan and again. Just i think that would be me. I'd end up spending most of my time commenting everything that was happening at those moments. So yeah i just I love that so all right number eight for you. I have the movie. Armalite i can. I love a story about just simple kindness and doing good deeds. I love the colors. Quirkiness and or whole Introvert love thing is interesting My husband and i are like i said we're both introverts and you know it. It's just it's just a cute happy movie and it just makes me feel good and warm fuzzy. The character herself the idea that she just wants to help. People innocent little ways is just so inspiration on. I always recommend that will be two people. Even those who are not really big into foreign films on just like you know. It's a classic. It's i watched it in high school. I remember my mom walked inches. Like what are you watching. Because it's in french. And i don't know french but It's just a happy movie. I know what to say specifically about. I think a lot of people have seen it and would agree with me that she is just a great character overall. Have you researched the musical version. That they recently did. I have a friend who saw it. I haven't listened to any of the songs that i would. I should listen to a top. Yeah i've listened to both two soundtracks out there but one version and the broadway version. The braga version has phil pursue. Who played allies ado. Let advisor doable hamilton. In hamilton the manuals and I love it and hate how that movie has that movie has. What's the word it's been tearing me for almost ten years at this point. Because i keep seeing an i keep wanting to watch it and i just never get the time to watch it. I love for in films by one of my favorite movies of all time cinema paradiso. I will yeah. I always love that movie and my wife showed me that one. And i've seen other foreign movies as well so i yeah That needs to. That's on my list at some point to watch a lot to ovulate an. I needed that message. Touching has the number. It's like you can sit around and watch life go. Why're you can go after what you want because my making get very. I'm very talking to talking about movies. But i can quite sign intimidated especially around people. Wards julie outgoing gentle nudge of like you could just twice now saying you'll at times it's okay. Well i think the care. It's kind of a comfort character for me too. And i think a lot of A lot of my friends who are similar to me. We talked about this. And we're like yeah that movie. It's just so good for it's just a great way watch it. They are introverts to say. Yeah i definitely so like. I said it's on my list. I have it. I own it. I just haven't watched so but it's on my list but Anyway all right so my number eight is again again movie. You might not know major not major Sergeant septum septum from stalag seventeen. This is william holden's character from style like seventeen which is a Nineteen forty-five pow film by billy wilder. And he essentially plays a cynic the whole time. He's he he sent him there. Basically smoking his cigar and commenting on their at their attempts to escape the pow at pow camp and never works. And you just you instantly don't really like the guy but talk about redemption. This guy ends of finding the spy who was planted in there by the by By the nazi command to basically make sure they don't escape and he thinker fig figures a plan to get rid of him and to escape himself and one of his most awesome arts is at the very end when he this planet in motion. He's he's going to go and he leaves now. No one in the bunk likes. They all hate him. They all think he's a enable and the last thing he says is just one more word if i ever see any of you bums out on the street. Let's just pretend we don't know each other. He starts to go but then he stops and he comes back up and he salutes them. So it's like whenever gonna speak. But i'll give you the respect because we're all in this in this together and then he escaped. And it's one of the most amazing things great dialogue and william holden one in academy award for this performance as well so Simpson in stolac seventeen. Just a great great character in the guy he actually gets beat up in the middle of the movie. He actually gets his butt whipped by the other guys because they think he's the squealers and he redeemed himself and becomes this kind of chiro that he never thought he could. He lived up to the expectation. He never thought he could. I love that those kinds of characters. all right. Heidi number seven bleach. All right so I don't wanna be like a typical girl that chooses her celebrity crush as one of her favorite characters from tom hilton. Who do you like. We love loki in our house My my husband makes a phenomenal loki. He was low-key for halloween. And he's like six six one and kind of like you know kind of built as thomason away Like he makes my husband's also like an eye in tj. Like i mentioned in. I actually called my husband. Evil genius in medicine or a always argued application villain. He's the antagonists and he makes a really really awesome of for halloween. But also like loki in neil gaiman books to like american gods and on in the frost giants so we we just love loki in our house. we actually bought her kids like because of the show like locate shirts. My daughter probably never wear the local rb. She's very girly but we love. Tom middleton brings like shakespeare into the character. We loved the show. I'm not a fan of the first episode. there's too much slapstick. Kind of stock will on for my taste. No and my husband and i have agreements and disagreements or the character is going like i kinda we kinda like disney is making him soft and stuff is good to see character growth and the whole complex with a romantic interests and everything. But we'd love looking the avengers it. It's kinda like we get this week. It's such energy It just an energetic fun character You can obviously tell that like the actors in the writers really like no they're norse mythology and everything and we. We just really enjoy low key and all that he has brought to the nco and what he's going to continue to introduce pretty much like both of the biggest boss villains to the whole thing that it's it's just so much. I will agree that there was a little too much like slapsticky. Like let's let's poke fun at what we already know. But that's seen of him finding out what his fate is. That was that was amazing. Tomorrow really awesome We didn't like the whole like we were. I didn't like the fact that it's like. He went from calling black widow. Mu-lin quim one day and the next day he's in this area. He's getting slapped around. That did not happen. Of course a twenty four hours. You know like that. There was a lot of lake arguing between the writers and stuff I was reading an article about it. Because i guess like i bet i bet. I bet. there's probably a lot of debates in the fan base. I'm not like a huge lake. I love the mc not a huge hardcore fan. But i bet like pete. Some people are kind of mad They did change the law of the character and we love the traditional like avengers. Laghi i storm will be low-key in net ragnarok great too but he does a little bit more of that slapsticky kind of thing which i do like to see because he mischief it by definition is playfulness but run. Like i love him in our house. I think it's just a fame wrote themselves into a corner and I agree with you on the very first avengers movie. I don't believe i think. And i noticed for fact that john was basically told luckiest villain and i don't think he understood how to write lucky. So that's why we locate to me. Loki is so different from the first movie to The avengers and then going even into the dr. You know so the dark world and then i it's. It's such a weird mixture of things. I like the fact that they are going back into the well. He has to learn all of this like this humanity. And by the end of ragnarok and then going into the beginning of infinity. So i kind of enjoy. I do think that they did him. No favours at the very beginning of it and they just made him like kind of one note evil character mischief mischievous to the point that now. They're making fun of the fact that like owen. Wilson says you basically double backstab someone twenty times. You know you do not trust people you know we get that cr mean so. It's it's very meta what they're doing. I think many so Number seven for me Rest in peace this man because he was brilliant in everything but in this movie he was in exceptionally growing alexander. Dame from galax quests played by the amazing allen workman this. This guy is so over being heart of this. This this this thing this galaxy quest thing that he is that he hates saying by grandpa's hammer and all that kind of stuff and he just you can see the hatred of like i was an actor wants. This is not acting is just reading lines and i relate to bat. Obviously because i'm an actor as well and but when he gets thrown into the situations and then he has to hold that poor alien boy acquaint like at the very end hem. Basically the writer said we need to find a way to get alexander. Deigned who eight same by grandfather's hammered to save it. Be the most genuine thing ever like talk about redemption of himself that he finds the reason why he wants why he chose to do this character. And it's more than just fan service. Base is obviously the aliens are like super are the quintessential super fans. But it still like. I now have purpose to say this line. I have purpose to play this character again. Because i'm living for this kid. Who believed in me so so much even though i'm not this guy It it's it's an absolute beautiful Sentiment to say the least Yeah it's it's absolutely worth it Really want to put alan rickman character. Any our rickman character. I love alan rickman. We as once. My friends and i were going to renaissance fair. We spent two hours in the car. Ride just holding and impersonating alan rickman. The whole drive one of things. I always wanted to see. It's never gonna happen. Sadly is i think alan rickman would have been using at the scrooge or christmas. Carol yes i would've. I would've paid all the money to see that. That's something that i still mourn to this day. That is like needs to needs. That it would have been amazing would have been absolutely amazing and Just really quickly one of my favorite albertson beyond all his iconic wants his role in sweeney. Todd is judge turpin. For some reason i will always love him just looking at the kid and saying you know Uganda at my wall. You gonda us Your gad i think we said at least forty times that car On that car ride. I'm gonna cut your heart out new. we were just. We would go into lake several snakes and we were talking about like because we were stuck in traffic forever to go there. So we're like. Oh the traffic slow. Let's just talk like it was. It was just a great way to entertain ourselves while we were all anticipate. I think that was even bark on the renaissance fair renaissance amazing but sitting with a few friends in the car to impersonating our men was. It's that's pretty awesome number six for you. Heidi please be one for star wars. And it's funny I'm not like hard core star star wars fan. But i'm not a hardcore stars fan but one thing that i have So i i saw jar wars. When i was younger i was. Ob once stood out to me. I was like. I don't understand what's going on but this guy's important wise and does good things in a thing that might all time favourite. Tv is uncle iro from avatar. Last air bender like lodden fired by obi-wan not the whole like know guiding you young person difficult time and having to change so much and look past glory and do the right thing and some of that Having to go against you know what other people are telling you. To do is just anna. I'm just a big one fan. And i will say i think obi wan across all all star wars regardless of what you think of the original trilogy versus the prequel versus the sequel. He is the consistent character that like was amazing in the original one by allah guinness and was equally as amazing with Joined mcgregor playing it in the in the prequels thing to the other thing We want to is You know people usually say like yoda. Obi wan's like actually in the scituate. Yes yoda's in this situation with. Ob one is actually in the situations and dealing with that rather than you know. Yoda yoda did his stuff. But that's the thing. Play by two actors played very well to actors and Like i said like i used to by parents would put on star wars for me to watch and is younger and like you know light. Lightsabres are cool spaces cool but like for some reason. Ob was the character that just stuck with me and a lot of the other thing too is. I'm a big are actually. I would consider to share them with looney. My all time favorite actor like in terms of everything they wanted to have to share. Looney plate will be one and that would have been. Maybe that's the connection to but yeah wants great. I just i had to add on the less. What if alan rickman played. Ob want god. That was an interesting All right for me number six You know if. There's i don't mean to sound sexist but i if there's one woman that has to be on my list it's ellen ripley from alien the alien series i'm gonna at her. I love her because she's so in the first one she so like. I know what's going on and once like no you don't shut our blah blah blah and. Then she ends up being right in the second one. She's like. I know what's going on. I have dealt with these guys before night now. You don't know what you're talking about cheated right again in the third one. She's right again like she's the character that everyone should be listening to the not only that she rises from her Because in the second one she does not wanna go on the adventure and by the end she feels like it is her job to protect new to the point where she has died iconic fight and they cut line and everything happening at the very end. And it's so to me. I mean. I'm a dude so i don't know how it is on young women but i feel like that's empowerment right there being able to like rise against your station in being able to basically be like you know everyone's telling me the stop talking there. I'm gonna do something about this. And i'm going to protect the people that matter to me right now and it ends up being hicks of new with her at the very end of two which to me is the end of the alien series Three or four in other ones do not exist for me but At least the very first one in the second one. She shows that why she deserves that. And you know she wants. You got an oscar nomination for the second one. Which doesn't happen in very john's John movies like that Sent you had a have a. Let me ask you about about that. Heidi so you. You had feeling that it was going to be on my on my list. Yes i did. And i don't know what it was. I had a few characters that i thought would be on your list. But she's definitely when i don't where highlight that at that i don't know where maybe it's maybe it's intuition avenue. Boston person at Number five. We're on the top five list so heidi number five please. No face from spirited away I so based off of the japanese folklore hungry ghosts. He reminds me. I don't know miyazaki had this in mind. But he kind of looks a lot like depth from seven seal and i. It's so interesting because he's a character. That's like nurtured. And whatever happens around him he takes. He's corrupted by the bath house and he's all greed consuming people around him but then when she hero shows him gentleness and kindness. He's like later knitting. And this dude. And i think there's just that there's a lot that people can I love characters that people can reflect themselves upon. And i think that's a character that can give us good. Look in the face and ask us. Who are you what you wind your life and what kind of person do in. Why are you the person that you are. What is it around you that makes you. Who are a lotta the As at least for teaching empathy and understanding empathy. And it's funny because whenever we watch spirited away because sometimes we just put movies on while like after kids. Go to bed in like. I'll be journaling in my husband will be like doing fantasy sports. Or whatever in no phase like my husband teases like this characters just so bizarre. And i'm but an and like yes and it's funny big niyaz ocoee fan and i didn't think he would be on my list. I thought it would be one of like a emit a leading female character kind of thing. But then i thought about it. It's just what one is each character story time in what is it. What is it gonna happen. Do in the future. No face really makes me reflect upon like your product of your environment at times and you sometimes have to surround yourself with people that will end late things that will inspire you to become better known. And that and that absolutely makes sense No great choice. I love that. I love that. Absolutely number. Five for me is an interesting choice on my end And it's actually the only time. I think i have a father on new i know. Second time Edward bloom from Big fish from tim burner coach. I love that movie so much. And i relate to both him and his son. Because i i have very very complicated relationship with my my father. We are on speaking terms right now and we do speak and he is a wonderful grandfather but to the point of me being. I really wish you treated me like you. Treat my son because he is so nurturing to my son. But i didn't get any of that So i have that in terms of his son in terms of edward bloom because edward bloom is a storyteller. Yes he did go out yes. He probably did a lot of the things that he says he does. But at the end of the day he's storyteller Telling tall tales to son not because he's an evil guy or because he wants to manipulate his son he just wants his son to kind of get outta the monotony of regular day and see like a journey of a man that you know. Did i do these things away. I say them not really but it you kind of are able to have an imagination and i'm growing your imagination which is all what i think parenting i think is. It's not about teaching. I don't think. I think teaching is not as kind of the wrong word to save a parents. Think it's opening the opening up the mind allowing the child to be tree ass- about the world in enjoy the world and just kind of learn on their own. I mean yes. Obviously we teach them how to speak and how to be polite and how to be decent human beings. But i think part of it has to do with just opening the and not telling them about things just allowing them to to imagine and i think that's most beautiful thing that edward bloom does. He actually allows his son to learn how to imagine things and be imaginative in uses imagination. Maybe that's just the idyllic part of me which is very very little things of idealism. There's that poem on your children are not your children. That are the sons and daughters up. Life's longing itself says a algorithm Brin polo and one little lines in it is It's like i don't have memorized but so you will. You will give them your love but not your thoughts for. They will have your own plots. That's really important in parenting to like mere. Not gonna tell my daughter. My son had a think going to teach them how to be curious and curious in process their thoughts reserve. We do not own our children like we do up or owner children As we are responsible for them but they are their own people do and Yeah i think like. I think it's interesting but both of us have number five. Does these characters that make you think about how you are and how you know well. Edward boom might not have been on my list. Two years ago before my son was born he could have been just another random. Character could have been luke skywalker. Although now i look at him and he's just a kid just like his father so and wolf children like she was just like kind of like i was like. Oh this movie's good and it was. I cried when i first thought. Before i became a mom but then after you know every mother's day we watched that movie together because it's just so much unsolved sack. It's different because she's a great ma. Yeah but it's just yeah. I think it's funny you. Yeah you could write this list later on your life and have something completely like if i wrote this list when i was in high sibenik. Holly go lightly. I love breakfast at tiffany's and stuff but she's not my less now. You know like different places like you change exactly. And i think that's only part of and that's why you say. What is your favorite movie now because it changes every time you see something Alright tiny number four please. So i have From the hidden fortress princess yuki can. I don't know this one. Oh you haven't so no him fortress. It's on my list. I put it on your list. She inspired star wars. And she's the character inspired princess. Leia oh the she is a boss babe you know. It's funny because to share luna. Like i think is the goat of actors. She outshines him in that movie. And is girl pow Girl power. When i wrote many drafts of this list and i had like i was debating between san from princess-mononoke in nossikov The valiant the wind who both of them didn't even end up on my list for some reason because princess yuki inspired both of them He is just this like she's she's amazing i am. I don't even want to say that much about the film. Because i don't want to spoil it for you on your list. You know for a nineteen. I think is in the nineteen fifties. The film was created but Lake elite she used just amazing. I can't say anything more about it. Because i don't ruin it for you. Nineteen fifty eight is hardcore stands up for own as amazing nineteen fifty eight. Yeah i'm all. I'm excited about that. One now. All right cool art number four for me. It's an interesting one and comes with a lot of caveats ochsner from steven spielberg's movies munich. i love this movie so just as a background. The movie munich take is about the aftermath of the nineteen seventy-three munich olympic massacre essentially leave Members of palestinian heat group basically broke into the israeli olympic team and held them hostage for. I think it was like a couple of days and eventually killed them. All and the palestinians were killed and go to my ear as response assembled a Team to go after the people who were Responsible for it After is a fictional character who was based on real people that happen. But here's the interesting thing about abner abner. Basically he has he leaves his wife who is pregnant to go and do this because he feels responsibility for his country by the end. He is so disillusioned by what he had to do that. All he cares about is his family and not necessarily about his country and there are wonderful wines in the middle of their where someone says The entire time he's a cook at he. He's events how he relax. He cooks and One of the character season looking into like a shop with all these late looking at a beautiful kitchen and he says you know you could have a kitchen like this It costs dearly but home always does and this guy is so dedicated to his wife to his family to his home realizing that it's basically wherever he happens to be with his wife and kids and the toll that it takes upon him You know by the end of the movie. there's no real happy ending. He's living in fear because he's afraid people are going to come after him because of what he's done but he so amazingly humble and the so much humility in in him that he doesn't really become this like evil guy killing people like it it takes a real toll on him and his wife is so supportive the whole time and so he kind of becomes a better man by the end of just saying. I don't wanna do this. I don't wanna keep doing this because this is not who i am. I just wanna be a family. Wanna have my daughter and all this kind of thing so it's a very interesting. The movie itself. It's an amazing movie. It's unlike any spielberg movie. Pretty much out there. I mean it's basically the outlier in spielberg's some honesty because it's nothing like the movies that had come before it's nothing like movies and have come since then so Wonderful movie tony. Kushner wrote it. wonderful wonderful Movie aren't hiding. where on top. Three gimme your number three bleach. This is another character that we celebrate quote often in our house and my husband is what my husband i think he loves kermit the frog but i think my husband would say this is his number one character but it's m. gustaf h from grand pest hotel by he is it's just the the but why like the case. The one liners in that movie. Like the whole Lake he sees the swinstead body. He's kinda cream to they. Put on your face i want some and that endings. That ending scene. I cry over everything. But that's a tearjerker at salad and we we love that movie. We love that character would we. I watched it was one of those. It's like it's a comfort comfort character comfort film for us. We constantly quoted in our house. Because i think it was just one day. And i had worked the next day and We had our pile of dvd's and blu rays that we got from the library. And i got a phone call from work in his aac. Snow day tomorrow so we were like in my husband's like i don't have to work tomorrow either and we popped that in and we didn't know what to expect we were just so like we that that opened up like so many jokes in our house and rave fines. Very fines is just built for that role in everything. That's perfect casting right there. And i every time like if i'm in a bad mood or something i I watched that movie. And every time i think of 'em gustaf age. I just cracked that. Once i love is when he's like there's a murder anything i didn't he just runs away. The as that lark mess around and just between that and the punching seen will always make me laugh the punch the punchy with their own punching each other will always make laugh That's a good movie. That's very very good husband. And i were zero. Agatha for halloween. It was the year before we had our kids and We have this. Like i think we actually have like it. Framed in two parts house like we have a picture of us standing there like no smiles holding hands at the camera. Like very wes anderson style. And i think that's like we have been defend like some really fun halloween. A i'm the i'm the inspiration of it. He's like he's an engineer. So he's he's like very like perfect like everything has to be perfect. He never did halloween until he dated. And married bruce. Yeah he goes in he gets into it though and he gets like really he's like a good score and he gets really intimate it. We went to this place and we went to downtown northampton massachusetts which is like such a like. We live right near there. Such a fun area. We went to our favorite teashop. We actually ended up just dressing up then the whole day holly in the end and so we have a lot of good memories around 'em gustaf h thanks but is awesome All right mine again. So now. I'm getting into more of the more modern things. This one's kind of modern. I grew up with the sky It is cliff sec secular seccord. Excuse me the rocketeer. The actual cliff the rocketeer from the movie. The rocketeer from nineteen ninety-two. Rocketeer movie i this is. What about was his last name. They said S. e. c. o. r. d. i'd Billy campbell's character in the rocketeer. I love that movie so much and get so much now. Which i do not understand. It's a great adventure movie amazing and he is so he's just he's so earnest and so just amazing the fact that he can fit he can fit on his ideals within character and he doesn't get lost in. It always just wants to save the girl. He wants to defeat the nancy's and he just wants to. You know be this kind of hero that he never could. And part of that is all part of the movie is also the music the music james warner wrote for that is absolutely gorgeous and brilliant and i now he was actually before i knew about batman before i knew about any superhero. He was the my first superheroes so much so that i have his action figure still on my desk over here. A little rocketeer action figure. I love it. I once about tier. I made my own jetpack. When i was a kid. Like i love this guy you know. So if they were to remake it because disney's remaking everything they talked about it but they've talked about remaking it really who did cast these like would you cast questions and certain books. My husband and i talked about that a lot like they remade harry potter. Who would you cast like him would cast. This is really interesting. I would cast bill hader. Oh my gosh. We love bill ater. I spoke him him orphan. Lin-manuel miranda. I think he actually be pretty or would be better but yeah i could definitely see him just playing just a absent minded kind of character kind of thing just has has that wholesome feel to it so it all right. We're down to last two. Heidi gimme your number number. Two awesome character himself that like. I did not if. I was not asked to read the story book on a few nights ago. My daughter before bedtime. I probably wouldn't have put her on my list but she is a big influence but it's mary poppins like Actually another one. That my husband and i dressed up at one year very poppinsan like he made an amazing bird too because he has that built as tall as dick van. Dyke qualities ptolemy has kinda like athletic finish muscular kind of built and we actually dressed up as mary poppins and bert. When i'm we had to chaperone a dance and we're reprinted we got. We did dancing lessons before we got married and lake by. I saw my The assistant principal. Actually she moves. She moved to a different school and i saw her like a few weeks ago. And she's like. Oh my gosh i still think about you and your husband. Has mary poppins and bert. But my daughter is like she's never seen the movie mary poppins. She's four and a half and she's obsessed with the. Mary poppins books and growing up. I loved. Mary poppins as many young girls do. But as i get older. I love her. I work with children. And i love her sass by love her boundaries and i love her fun and when we went. My husband and i actually saw production. Mary poppins at the gun. Quick playhouse and that kind of reopened up my love for her to in the past few years and on julie andrews i like. I love her and thoroughly modern millie too. But i think it's just like i said a lot of these characters are comfort characters that bring back good memories like i'm talking about like certain times in my life in period but Mary poppins is just time less. I did like the. I did like the up. The recent remake with with her. I think she did a fantastic job. And she gave a justice and everything. That's you i'm i'm excited to show to my daughter when she's a little. My daughter's not really big into movies. The only movie she'll watch Auburn kiki's delivery service which are both fantastic. Aminov there's nothing to sneeze loves those yet. My daughter definitely loves those. Like i think she would like mayor pop. She's not into fast. She's not into fast paced kind of like things and little already. So as you have um so the record and we play the record lower house and she dances to it and enjoys it too so So when you when you husband dressed. As mary poppins. Mary poppins and bert did you. Do mary poppins. Bird on johnny holliday. Or did you do different ono. No we did like just like regular like traditional like step in time kind of this car and it was funny because he just got out of he's like i said my husband is the best for with so many things from and he like he changed it in his car after getting out of work and unlike he found some dirt underground he like put on his face dustin stuff and we the students like is it was sweet because i work with middle schoolers and part of me was like hundred. Recognize us in there. It was cute daylight loved it and the one girl ran up to us and she goes. This is your. Mary poppins in your guy it was. Everybody seemed to be really like it was like the students got really excited. And it's very hard to find these. I do dress up on halloween. it's very hard to find care. I stopped doing characters. Because i would dress up as something that only the only the students will now. Nothing really run. Lean so this young address up as a mushroom. I thing All everybody just seemed to like it. I don't think i've no one person that says that they don't like mary poppins poppins. Are you know. That's the thing i got also have a really sweet story One time i went to a child's birthday partner. It was a little girl who is alone. And i sat with a little girl. Mike played with her at unlike that year for christmas. I got knock on the door. And the little girl's grandmother gave me a christmas tree ornament. And she said oh. My daughter said that you like mary poppins and remember that for the party. We got this. And like i still look no just like off like it's just such a sweet story so enough. Oh yeah main competences a a big influence on me and If anyone wants to know how much in in detail. There's an episode on this podcast channel on about. Mary poppins up my friend amelia. I went in depth on americans choose. I am I did musical theater in the background. Emma soprano so that was like one role. I remember like as a comic play mary I don't sing anyway. Adolescent forever If i did get back into theater. I don't think i would go back into call theater even though i do love singing because it's just so competitive incompetent. Don't get along very well. I don't have. I don't taffer singing lessons. My one thing i would like to get back into once. I have like moments for myself. These i usually. I just stay home and watch movies in all at journal and craft all the time. I want to get back into fencing once again. I would like to get back into theater. But i don't think it's going to happen. Sadly you know it's it's it's not for everyone it's and it's a tough industry. I loved to but And we aren't so my number two is again a more modern movie. Peter quill star lord from guardians of the galaxy. Love this man. So much and it's partial partial because one of my celebrity crushes happens to be chris pratt. I have no problem saying But he i love just the kind of harrison ford ish kind of like banner he brings to how james gunn really was like the first guardians of galaxy is essentially raiders of the lost art Skies as a space movie with with with with with with indiana jones on hansel kind of combined into one character and Appeal has such beautiful story. You know he he pretends to be this cavalier. hero and it turns out that he is probably one of the most damage characters because he watched his mom died in front of his eyes and wouldn't even take her hand because in some in his psychosis it would basically be taking her hand with meantime. I'm accepting that. She is dying and i don't want to do that. And then you go into the second movie where you find out who is father was and you realize why he so messed up as a character in the so much subtlety in so much Cycle wants psychology built into his character. That is so you don't realize it is you think he's just this kind of snarky a-hole hole in the first one in the second one kinda the same thing with so much going on in the underground that you like. You don't realize this happening. In the fact that star lord which in the conflicts i believe was just a monaco. He found but in the movie. It's the name that his mother gave him. And that's why he so wants to be known as star. Wars is is just absolutely beautiful. And how chris pratt plays at opposite. You know he has wanted to be with gamarra's his want to be with a family and friends and you know from both guardians movies to at the event vendors movies. It's absolutely beautiful in practice. So amazing and so much so counter defer. He's also interesting because there's very few people and there's very there's very few people in very few characters that are thinkers but also very impulsive. Yes unemotional guy. He's more of a thinker. Even he does get his emotions. Do take over him like he's more like but at the same time. He is one of the most impulsive characters. It's interesting it's it's amazing you could do you. You wouldn't realize it knowing marvel the way they do that. It's just a hero but this so much psychology built into him. That is so amazing. And i was saying when. They first announced guardians of the galaxy. S said this is going to be huge. I cannot wait. And i've loved it ever since and so much so. My wife loves seeing the guardians movie. Someone like the very first one. She was crying at the end when Group said his last we are grew and she was just bawling and so it was amazing and And she has her baby group which you can't see in this screen but it's actually over over there but yet Pita quilt star lord in to say nothing of the fact that i can't listen to come and get your love and not wanna dance like or that's that's my thing now. All right hiding we are at number one. Please tell me what your number one most awesome character. Film is all right. So this is the goat for me. i am a huge fan of sandra from the movie. Your jimbo in. Sandra have you seen them. No to share 'em luna isn't like hair south films and he's mostly known for seven samurai and plays. Sandra who is the ultimate lake boss like western. Nobody know western movies like like. I swear a lot of the like the you think western movies. I think they all are based office. Sandra or About westerns personally. But i can't say the word. But i wanna say the word. He's just like he is the guy who gets a bullet shot a him and knocks it over with a samurai sword. But the thing about him because is how he interacts his facial expressions when he interacts with the people around him like he watches other people fight in. He just finds it amusing. These are so pathetic compared to his fighting skills or the scene where women are dancing from coming just is is and he has his one line in. He's like soccer. I'm smarter when i drank like. He's just like this. Ultimate like your tashiro thune a as like this roaming samurai I actually got a made christmas tree ornament up him for my husband as like a gift because we constantly are like that is the coolest character in dumb period and we also have this running joke in our family that you jackman could play anything. Do anything we have this restaurant in town and it's Bill serve like you could get like tofu. steam tofu salad and you can get a partner in a same flick. We call jackman restaurants because so versatile but then we jokingly say like even sandra could be wolverine like sandra over in He's just that two so tough he so awesome but the thing that i love most about him is the way he watches people and interact with them. Just a great character I it's on my list. I need to i because i have seen so i. I saw seventy seven ryan. I've seen a couple of cure sarah phones. I haven't seen the mall. Let's amazing syndrome warwick comedy ish. Like there is funny. There are funny like things and jumbo but sandra's the sequel. We want your jumbo like a bunch of times. We have both of them. We'd watch sandra like once or twice. Nice all right yeah. It's it's on my list on my new my new less because i've been taking less review from the whole time. I will say that all right my number one and you can only assume that i would have picked this. I mean i just knowing what you know about me talking to heighten also you listeners out there indiana jones to be my number one. It has to be my twenty right before the podcast. I mentioned that like if we did influential like Like most influential most iconic characters. I would've put indiana jones at I just i love just his world weariness. His kind of he gets in over his head. He's making it up as it goes along And he's but he also has respect for the relics that he's trying to get he like he even in like the. I don't care for temple doom. But even in that he's you they were talking about fortune and glory but he instantly is like this rock has to go back to it because it's a sacred stone. It has to go back to the villagers you know the arc has to be taken care of even though the government guys don't think so the grail has to be taught with reference reverence even like aliens in king of the crystal skull which guess what go on record and say i actually kinda like it Even that he he's trying to deal with some sort of respect and humility and it's i just love his character. I love that. He's just an adventure but he's also very intelligent very educated and it's it's just really it's he's not a people have labeled him in a borderland misogynist. I don't personally see that. I think he does respect women. And i do think he does He doesn't belittle them like other people do in various movies. And i know there's a little bit of problematic thing of his relationship with marian but he still. He has all these virtues he you know look at the last year saying he was looking for the cross occur now of for nearly twenty thirty years until we finally got it and put it in the museum. You know and you know cares about his father cares about you. Know mrs mother on builds up into this character and yes he's iconic but in terms of how he deals with things he's got a whip and a gun and half the time but gun isn't even loaded. He runs out of bullets halfway through most of the adventure so the fact that he's able to just go with his widsom. Physicality is as part of an harrison. Ford brings that character to life so he is my most favorite character out of out of everything. It really indiana johnstone's raises a lot start. Yeah yeah with Last crusade being a close close second and again because of the father son story and again i. Won't you know i hiding. I've been high. I've been Kidding about this ever since up again. This podcast that this podcast is cheaper than therapy. But my father. And i have very complicated village anytime you put a father and son story on a screen. I will public by at the very end. You know it's very i. I love last crusade I love that one. I think the scene went on the book and hitler signed this whole areas to shows how that's up. Hitler was to just a whole Sean connery as the dad is. Just perfect. Passing and yeah. Indiana jones is a great character. Study kate great case study in its own. There's a lot of great one liners in those movies. Too and Yep those are they. I thought i heard that they're gonna make fifth one which i'm like really like doing five. Th indiana jones five right now. James mangold youth directed Logan when a great movie he's doing indiana jones. Five has been around. the house. likes to impersonate Patrick stu nogan around the house and my poor children are hearing it like what is going on good. so game arena I the character. Wolverine is awesome. Yeah so That's list what did we miss Again you can email me Gimme your listed. give us your less. I really wanna thank heidi for taking some time out of her night to come here and Record this episode with me on You know i think. I would. I love hearing was from other peo- please be kind like i said these are just characters that i find her at Lawmakers can hear personal stories behind. But i would love to hear other people's care like and i love learning what people's fair movies are and I also loved to new movies and lease I would love to hear you ask other people's questions to in the future. That's actually not bad idea. I have a small group of reoccurring gas to come on. But this would be a nice question to to post them. Every time i get it absolutely amazing but yeah heidi thank you so much I hope that you'll come back on the show again. And we'll continue talking movies and other categories and things so much. This was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it. 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Margaritas, Bologna, and Hiking | My Opinion Is Fact

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Margaritas, Bologna, and Hiking | My Opinion Is Fact

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Your perfect pair is waiting. Ready to step up. Your game visit made well dot com and use the code spotify twenty for twenty dollars off your online jeans. Purchase terms apply see made well dot com slash promos for full offer details. Turn walk into the dave jank. Show part of the ringer. Podcast network presented by major dumber. Mia this is dave chang. I don't think i'll ever introduced. Podcast myself and saying the name of the podcast but i just did it We have a morph coming your way. My opinion is fact with krisztian and snack master. Noel cornelio and of course supercomputer producer. Extraordinaire is likely who's going to tell us how much she hates food before we begin. I have been told by my publisher. I have to start promoting the holy. Hell out of this cookbook. That i coming out and five weeks. It is called cooking at home. Or how i learned to stop worrying about recipes and love my microwave clearly a funny play on the coober. Great dr strangelove. But you know you've heard some of the bits of how i cook at home now hi christie and cooks at home how a lot of chefs professionally cook at home. And you know the reality. Is i joke that it's almost like learning how to only drive a formula one or a nas car because i never learned to cook at home and then like having to cook at home. It's like driving a toyota prius. And there's no rules anymore so this book is a little bit about finding tuition and becoming a better cook. And how recipe's oftentimes make you a bad cook. So i'm going to start off right now with my own. This is fact or fiction to opinion. Well you got what we're just about. This is a my opinion is fact factor fiction. Got it fixing yes. What was funny. I read a comment. They're like. Is dave having a hard time understanding anything anymore and i. I can't even grasp simple things anymore. My mind is totally preoccupied with a baby to coming. So i have no idea. I have no idea how so many billions upon billions of humans have been win. I just don't get it anyway. My question to you guys and to the audience do recipes. Make you actually a worse cook. I feel like short term. No long-term yes so short-term someone who's trying to figure it out i feel like i need it to guide me to help me understand like okay if i'm trying to make a certain dish like i probably should include these ingredients but i feel as though ones i've gotten more comfortable with using like i dunno about example but like mirren. I now know how to use it in cooking without needing recipe so short term. I think i need it in order to start me off but long-term if i kept using a recipe even i can't do anything on my own. It's like using autocorrect forever. You don't think about it. I think the lego movie. I think about will ferrell's character but dad. Who's like you have to do it. The way they have it in the box. And now we have. I'm gonna. I'm gonna super-glitz you can't do it any other way and the kid is like what if i wanted to do it this way and i literally had this moment building legos with my daughter where i was like really. You can't put that piece there. The window goes in the friend's apartment. You've got to do it by the instructions. And she was like. But i just want to make this thing and so i think that like legos actually are a good example. Like if you build your first five. Lego sets and you're like oh this is how they worked as a how these pieces come together. And oh if i do this backwards this way like. This is a new technique. I can use to make something like this but if your goal is just continue to make things out of instruction books forever only gonna make things that other people want you to eat. Yeah and it's about not getting out of comfort zone and you've heard us maybe talk about the tyranny of the cavendish banana or talk about how all meats have to be sort of soften shoeless is in slow cooked. These may seem like disparate things but to me. They're all sort of tied together. It's it's like not challenging the assumption that there's another way to do it and then also you know brought up a good point or spell checking or finding your direction. I have no idea how to spell anything anymore. I have no idea how to find direction. I never did. But you know without gps. I'd be totally fucked right. But if there wasn't i remember having to remember directions. Left right left go here. It just becomes ingrained in how you think. I think that's sort of important as a human being to actually be able to use your brain in ways that you know your your your critical thinking critical data as critical thinking. But it's also like you know if you're a sports fan it's you scripted out your plays for the game you're star quarterback gets injured or you know you're losing by twenty five points and you don't change anything because you're you're so committed to something and he's like are really random examples because there's not one great example to make people go ha you're right. Maybe i should stop following recipes on struggling to find something perfect. But i just don't think that there is and people have to ask themselves. Do you want to be spoon. Fed the rest of your life. And there's no problem with that or do you want to venture out on your own and learn and actually be independent. And i find that a lot of people just don't want to know how to make something without recipes. It's scary. I'm not trying to say it's not scary but at some point you all have to get out of you know. Stop being a wallflower and dance a little bit. And that's what. I wanted this book to be an our our good friend. Pre krishna was instrumental in making the book. But the other thing that i i feel that i want to ask you a second question to you guys is. Do you feel that recipes are. How should i say where we live in a world where we need recipes because we live in a world not trying to be politically correct and super woke here but it's a western eurocentric dominated perspective. Because if you think about people that have great food cultures people that i know and you go to their homes or they say me and my mom's a great cook. My uncle cooks this. But there's no recipes it seems to get marginalized in how we talk about food or disseminate food information. Because we're not telling those stories these are. It's not their fault that it's not written down because most fucking recipes have never been recipes. It is watch me. do this watch me. Cook spend time with me. And i think that's more powerful than a recipe recipe addiction recipe culture. Which you know like. I've made money selling cookbooks for recipes. I'm part of the recipe industrial complex. But it's like nine motherfucker. Chris listed little the number one most shared the new york times website. Dave chang's both listen. We're all. We're all guilty of of putting recipes out there. But i actually think i'm i'm kidding. Sort of when i say it's the recipe industrial complex but i'm also not. I think it's a legacy of industrialized food to some extent where you want everybody anywhere in the country to be able to produce the same thing no matter where they are like. That's what respite does it like. Levels everything down to the teaspoon and how you make exactly what i ate exactly what i want you to eat but at the same time. I don't think our values in america. I think when you think about americans that we talked to all the time. The most romantic notion is the secret recipe. The grandmother's recipe the thing. That was not written down that you had to learn that you're talking about just standing in the apron of your grandmother or your grandfather. Whatever like that is. Our most romantic notion of cooking is learning these family recipes. That can only be talk through doing and so we want it. We actually want what you're talking about but we have been trapped into this thing. Where like you know. I'm guilty too. And i think that when i first started talking to you about these cooking things it really did. Change my perspective a lot. You know dare. Well dave like every night in my house. I'm cooking some shit like you told me about. You know whether it's just because you know. I watched you boil a chuck roast recently. And then i went home. And i was like oh. He made a good john with boiled. Chuck roast. I came home and i said. Hey jamie what are you for dinner and she said how about curry house like a a boiler fucking chuck gross and make japanese curry that this is so much better once. You open your eyes to it i think. Yeah it's so interesting because this week to. I finally decided that. I'm actually going to learn how to make filipino food. Because i've gone so long without having learned anything. And so i used to be. I guess still am kind of a recipe person. I still have. I need it but obviously with filipino. Food and especially like with every single family. You kind of have a different take so this week. Like my mom. I got on face time and she had to explain to me step by step but the explanation was more about taste and it's kind of that. Intuitive okay are you taking every step like does this feel right. Does this look good because at the end of the day like you know best and it's so funny because going through that process. That was the first time that i had a successful dish. Start to finish verses recipes. Little test out for the first time. No matter how much i follow it to the t- it's never perfect the first time. And it's because i'm just following exactly what someone's telling me to without actually thinking twice about what i'm doing. I mean outside of baking and certain recipes. You need to follow. Things step-by-step in pastry and bread making certain things absolutely you have to but like everything else. You just described whether it's filipino. Food or chinese or japanese or ethiopian. If you're not in those countries and you're somewhere else a lot of it is. How do i make a recipe without the exact ingredients. And i think that's a stomach block for everybody. I can replace anything. That's parmesan with soy sauce. Vice versa or anchovies or anything. That has mommy. If i don't have the right thing. And that's okay and it's just thinking outside the box this pisses off so many people. It pisses off the traditionalists. It pisses off people. That are like you can't fuck with this quizzing. I actually think that if you do it right. If you are actually able to mimic different ingredients of a recipe you're paying respect You know it's how all our immigrant parents cooked when they came to this country. They didn't have the same ingredients. And i feel like that's how the next conversation food can begin by not recreating the same thing not making facsimile. That's why i hate fucking authenticity. And i don't know i feel like it's an uphill battle to tell people. Recipes are great. But it's just a starting point and more often than if i post anything media like where's the fucking recipe. How much how. Many cups of this. And i'm like it's so it's common sense. Man i mean this is maybe just me being a psycho. But i've always i if i if people ask me where i got a recipe. I'm always so embarrassed. I actually used a recipe. I'm like i just don't want to be like oh. This is like the smitten kitchen recipe for chile. Like i don't wanna do fucking embarrassing man like do it yourself so you don't have to suffer the embarrassment of saying the website where you got the recipe just like learn how to deal with all. This is all a plea to tell the audience that i've listened to recipe club a reason an excuse a why chris and i are so fucking talk. Because i feel playing sports. Mclean the sport excuses dave. It's like are resisting winning recipe club. Because we're so embarrassed at the recipe. That's exactly what it is. I mean in terms of a cop and know if this is gonna make sense but is like maybe there is a comp. And i don't mean to seem profane in in making this analogy but it's another pleasurable thing. I mean if people understand that like if they have intimate relations with the person like sex like they can read about it. They don't follow a recipe. You know what i mean like. I'm sure people do imagine if you just follow a recipe for sex with your partner. Four cents for seven minutes seven minutes on your back then you this you know really is sort of the same thing you know what we're laughing because guess what people if they hear this fucking stupid. The same logic applies to just following recipes. You're making something pleasurable for someone else. And you're you're fucking robot is literally your fucking a robot so i think i think i did it. I mean i maybe it is sex and if you can laugh about it. There's something funny about blindly following a recipe without actually questioning. Hey this carrot looks different than it did. When i bought it a week ago. Maybe it tastes different. Maybe i might have to add a little bit of sugar all. I don't have any sugar. One hundred i use gaba is that okay. Actually the gov as expired. I have maple syrup okay now. It's sweet sweet of them. I thought maybe. I balance it out with more pepper and some acidity all right. I don't have any lemon juice. Because that's what the recipe says. But i have some white wine vinegar. Maybe that will work. You know like you're just constantly iterating and it's a little bit like improv. But just to be clear. This book has dishes and their recipes. Ish just not yeah. They're tons of recipes in there because my publisher was like you're not making a book without recipe philosophical extremely philosophical book basically and. It's not a book about microwave cooking. There's only like five but that was intentional to sort of explain to people that this is going to be tried to take a different approach. There are lots of recipes. But it's not choose your own adventure. I feel that they've been written in a way. Where if you have something you're gonna you're going to be able to use commonsense and be like. Oh this is how you make. And that's it. It's holding your hand without telling you cheating the test. The sex analogy so funny man thinking about that. We should start a sex recipe website. Cook like fuck cook like well. That was a long preamble of my opinion as fact factor fiction. I don't know what the hell that name needs a needs a little bit of work. Maybe maybe the maybe we just call it. This is the segment. That says i'm right. You're wrong i'm right. You're wrong shut up coming on fox news at eleven so before we get into moist before exit. I'm right you're wrong every frigging jesus christ. No well has a little update from us. Actually for us in the great. Cary joji fukunaga debate of twenty twenty. One that's right the biggest debate of all time. If we're being honest. Thanks to everyone who responded to the instagram poll. Sixty percent of you definitely want him on the show forty percent of you that he's way too handsome for us. The question was because cary fukunaga too handsome and talented and selva is so low that carry too good of a guess for us so we put it out there to you our listeners. About as to whether we should have him on or not. And there's the results. Dave sixty percent him on forty do think he's touching me of my math is not very good all right but i think that means only ten people vote it either way. Forty percent of that ten people agree with. What do you think. Dave should extend the invitation or not based on that data we were we were against it. Now is just going to be weird. You know i mean why would it be weird. It's going to be weird. It's gonna be weird. I was so bad. He's a big name director who's also asian american. We should have him on this podcast too. Good looking men to get looking. Why is that the criteria for an audio only medium. I don't understand. Because i david i gotta look at him. Canada's man god man it's impossible anyway yeah well if he comes on not doing the podcast show. Your name is on the show. You can't do the podcast. We should just let him. Oh we should just give him a guest hosting spotlight. Ken jennings on jeopardy fukunaga show. I mean clive kessler still makes books and everything right on clive customer. The dave traumatized fancy like twelve years ago was still any. Tom clancy books. Because this shit of my name's on it or not doesn't mean anything. Sheesh shows like the the mandarin in the marvel versus title that passes from person to person. Okay all right all right all right all right. Let's got on the morph. Let's take a quick break and we'll sit up. This episode is brought to you by state farm. We love cooking because it's full of surprises. Sometimes we might add too much of an ingredient but it elevates the dish in an unexpected way or maybe we cook something too long and discover an entirely new texture. It's the best kind of surprise just like the surprisingly great rates on car insurance you can get with state farm. You can find straightforward affordable options in personalized them to fit your needs for car insurance no matter your budget. 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If i'm drinking and pitcher form and actually know that davis cool with that too because we put. I have been drunk on margarita. So what's the issue here. I mean there's there's the upcoming hulu show. There is a scene where you'll probably like. He doesn't look good when they tell you what happened the night before. I had like four pitchers of margarita. Because it's the first time i've ever been outside. And like you know six months at a bar and imbibed many many drinks. I think margaritas are fine. I just people call the mars and this whole ritual around it i. I'm not like. I don't go out out of my way. And i'd rather have one of those slushy. Margaritas unreal margarita. Rita's he's always. I got one for you. Underrated wine spitzer really so kylie. Havi are ashton's husband. Luke ashton one of the great bartenders bartender of the year in the world opened a widespread sabbar and it was my favorite bar of all time. i think wine spritzers are underrated. Why wouldn't you wanna drink them. There's just enough alcohol to taste like something and it also is watered down bubbly water. It's like everything you want. Do you have any sort of qualifications. For what makes a good weinstein sir. You don't really care. I mean you've seen me do this to in a restaurant or going to someplace. I'll say gimme the shittiest bottle of white. I don't care what it is and just put on ice with some sparkling water. That's it the shooter. You're the better. That's what i said. I'm ready for that right now. How refreshing how is that. Not an amazing drink. I think it's widely underrated. Overrated is shortening the names of mexican dishes and creations like margaritas guacamole to the first syllable agree with that structure marks guac making you wanna die. Guacamole the same as avocado toast. We've we've been come on no not not exactly. Is it basically when you make. Guacamole is the same thing when you make avocado toast it is you smash up the avocado. You mean but some avocado toast. Recipes are like the same ingredients as some of them can be. It's a diagram. There's overlap when i think of guacamole and this is wrong but i immediately think of something that has tomato and onion in it as well which i know is not the case across the board therefore i can't think of avocado toast and guac is the same thing. They're ago said glock mean. Yeah i guess is x. Rate shocker chocolate. I to i wanna take time to sorta interrupting do a. Psa anytime you think. You want avocado toast. I just want to tell you you should go with. Og butter toast just put giant slab of butter on your toast are in in the great in the in the Four hour how buddy or toasts segment. We did a few months ago. I think he did have an amazing instruction which was put as much butter on your toast as you would avocado avocado tests. One hundred percent. Or if you're having like fog raw and you're putting embryos coleslaw like people slava the shit out of their bread. And i'm like you know what's going to be equally delicious if you do the same thing with butter. Just everybody try it once. Put some fucking extraordinary amount of butter on your toast or your bread and put it with like some self sea salt. I think it will change your life. I agree i agree. Paid for by the national dairies. Cardiologists association Our next question baloney overrated underrated overrated coming in straw. Don't get at period. you don't get it. Yeah not for me. Not for me well overrated. Sometimes i'm our god. I was just trying to remember last time. I had like oscar. Mayer baloney has been a long time but i mean noel was dig into this. Do you not like more to belot. I will eat more to della. I don as a real wow. That's a problem. I don't know who. I dislike more now or i mean. I thought that if you'd been like no. I love to dell like. I can't eat bologna. Because i'm just so fond of pistachios and pepper corns in my more del in chunks of lardo. But you're just I don't know about this celebratory. It's got not a ham. chris. Chris triggers due to meet. Manny's it's a it's it's like you're making it said adding oil you're just adding meat. It's a meat male fucking good. It's amazing every time i look at that. I'm like i marvel at human ingenuity some. It's just it's just amazing. And i think it's delicious and people don't eat it. You should have a fried baloney sandwich. You need to crippled up. You should cut that little slit in it so it doesn't like deform itself when you're cooking it but we need to eat more baloney more more today. More meat male type sandwiches whether it's a tailor's ham more zella with shares without. It's a tremendously delicious food slice thin. We already talked about our favorite sandwich in sao paulo. The stack tied deck of more to della. Chunks of more della grilled fried. I listen if you don't like bologna. I mean well do you hate spam as well no comment oh well no. I'll eat spam in certain dishes. But i can't say that i like the general category of spam. I just could not see this coming. I just couldn't see it coming. I just never thought that. I would put isaac in front of you is. Anyone could have more controversial opinions than myself. Wow wow is spam that controversial. I feel like you either like it or you don't like it on just i just. I'm loss for words like an angel is tumbling out of the heaven. Also okay See you guys later. Thanks believable wow wow. I don't know if we can talk about anything else. We should just end. the punt. cast day of atonement. Would you just do you just not like process meets in general. Do not like this specific type of like salty. Sausage easy can kinda meets yes. Do you hate sausages to no no no. I like sausages. i've recently. I just never really ate it growing up so i think lead. I haven't gotten used to it and so overtime i've eaten it. It's just not. I think i like other things. More is really what it comes down to feel the same way about you like god. She gave the thing about. Noel is she doesn't care. Doesn't need your your validation like chris and myself do. I'm so mad. Something something else to be to be mad about it stops. I think we should. We should make a poster. That's like stop saying bologna in a negative way. I think it's really. It's just like this is nonsense. No bullshit i think he deserves a psa proper. Proper psi poster. I'm to work on this. I feel like it's a euphemism for saint bullshit. I think people don't want to say bullshit so they say bolognaise white drag fucking baloney is good name bullshit fucking bullshit. Yeah that's true that's true. All right worked up hard left. Turn hiking hiking the activity. It's a korean pastime. Let me tell you. I will never pick that up as a hobby ever i just. I'd rather go running. I would rather really. Hiking is like state of inbetween. I hate the states of inbetween Very much and i would rather do anything but like walk at a brisk pace bowling. Yeah interesting up hill like no none of these things sound good to me. And i'm embarrassed that it's the korean national hobby of the outdoor pursuits. And i just don't like it. I don't an wyoming there hiking trails everywhere. I thought about hiking and every time i thought about hiking i was like no nothing. Chris noel I don't feel strongly anti hiking. But i do feel like it's sort of a bullshit activity like you. Would you call it a bologna activity. Wouldn't it fucker tow like hiking bags. And there's a whole camera this shit. It's like watching stacking walk. Walk dude pick up a stick and walk walk somewhere do do gadol style or why is it called hiking. Just say it's walking walking up. Why does yeah. Hiking need a new name. What is your walking. Why why rebrand walking. Because then you get. This is what i'm saying because then you can't sell a whole separate line of shit so you're telling me the marketing company that came up with the phrase hiking also created all these fucking holidays like it's pizza day donut jelly donut aluminum candidate. You probably came up with the seattle percent. A hundred percent this walking walking walking uphill. I enjoy hiking more than these shoe. But i also don't like the gears all agree with you on that. Chris and i especially hate hiking. Snacks granola bars. Those juice wings are supposed to gore. Chennault gordon courts saying gore gore corp or yeah corp isn't an acronym for something. Yeah i think so look it up or nola or raising to what is good old raisins and peanuts good old. Sorvino the big. If you gave me a bag of trail mix and said like just eat what you like. All you would have left would be gore. I can eat that stuff. I just know who came up with that. I want to talk to the inventor that came up the name gore p- the good old raisin in peanuts. Just what the faulk man doesn't make any sense and i i just i immediately went back to my fictitious. Theoretical dave chang state. Let's very similar a more democratic more freedom of speech north korea. There'd be only walking or running nothing between the word. Hiking and walking briskly is banned the people's democratic republic of changing bands hiking. I don't know i feel like this. Logic is getting missed. So i you say that hiking is walking. And now you're saying that walking and running or okay so therefore you've put hiking in the walking category so high the laws okay. Logic is this hiking seems to be like the reason why people call it hiking. People wanna make it seem like it's more of an endurance or harder walk right. It's a brisk walk or something like you're carrying shit. We're going uphill but the radically it's just walking but a lot of people think it's like brisk hiking because people time themselves when their hiking right. I think time is a big thing and you know times a big thing to get to fucking point. Eight point being a high then fucking run as an endorsement. I do not enjoy hiking and just wanted to put that out there indoors how to judge field of hikers just like quietly as you sit there drinking a beer. That's how you do it. You just judge them as they walk by eating gore p- now that we're sufficiently angry. Let's talk about to loppy. A- overrated underrated overrated. I don't remember the last time. Eight o'clock you just another ashish now. It's a farm raised fish. It used to be. I think it's always been a farm. raised fish. Can i say. I just googled to loppy recipes. And i think looking at the first twenty. Eighteen of them are parmesan crusty recipes. That just tells you everything you only way to make this good is to cover it with crispy farmer shot at eleven like it's all. The same recipe apparently used to be found in the nile river in egypt in ancient egypt. And they used to eat all the time there. So i'm i apologize to the inch. Egyptians may have offended by judging to lapeer poorly. I'll be taking a break from the day of chiang show to think about what i did. Now i mean people top ya it's the. It's a widely consumed fish. I just if. I was at a place where it was. Actually they're wild or it wasn't being made by a giant company. I think it would be like yeah. You know but i feel most taupe is consumed by or made by big corporations. I won't say what country i was in. And i think there's made it very big impression on me. It was a coastal town. Not america and i didn't understand why all the villagers weren't eating the local food because they couldn't because it was also for exports but there was a giant factory. Not far by so the tacoma instead of the local seafood. And not fucking right. Yup okay how do you feel about beaches or mountains. This kind of related to hiking. But would you prefer the beach or the mountain. The mountain as much as i love the ocean freely. You just shat all over hiking. And you're you're like mounds over beaches. I actually was in the mountains. And i didn't go hiking ones so you can drive up a mountain and does have a great time in a cabin or i feel that there is something that is more inspiring and majestic from beautiful mountains. One reason why. I love the teton mountain range. I think it's the most beautiful mountain range in north america. Only thing that i think is remotely similar are the on my god. I can't remember the mountain range in south island where queenstown is Because it's just stunning. And i think there's something there's something about seeing a giant mountain range that i think is Humbling is the right word. But i think there's a correlation to many many religions are are born at higher elevations low oxygen levels though oxygen level high elevation. Like it's true like inordinate amount of religions have been born out or started in mountains. Because i think it's something that is in our dna and more religions born in mountains than religions born at ocean level. Mounds are great. Our beach boy me too. But i'm a peach lover three southern californians on this podcast and i think we'll all agree that beaches are amazing. The ocean is also majestic. I agree ended. There was something on sparring standing in front of gigantic mountain. And it's just like the sheer scope of it puts you in your place in the world but beach field. La really didn't do a good job of maintaining its beaches not true. Come on there are a lot of great beaches in australia. You really yeah you get the bond your holy fuck. This is outrageous on as beautiful strip. La really fucked up compared to australia. Where's the thing. Don't go to malibu. Don't go to santa monica. Go down to the south bay. Go to manhattan beach. Hermosa beach redondo. Pv maybe all the way go go all the way down to new policy sydney sydney or you can go to see all men manley which is nice own. Nice like fuck. I love australia and the beaches. They are just stunning perfectly. Kept and you know. La sorry you missed it. Command me beach. People i well stuff artichokes stuffed artichokes overrated underrated. I don't understand stuffed artichoke. can i ask. Seriously how do people eat artichokes. 'cause they're expensive at the farmer's market. And i have tornado your cleaned artichokes a lot of artichokes in my lifetime. usually not the huge globe ones. But more of the baby artichokes 'cause you cook them in. This french thing called barra google which is like a acidic white wine with some maybe sometimes flour and some aromatics and it's a way of cooking him where they'll be a little bit of six. They won't turn color And you basically get it down to the core and the stem and you peel everything else. You don't use the lease. But when people eat artichokes i feel like outsiders say a french train restaurant. They're only eating the leaves. I don't understand that. What is there to eat that little nub in of meat that comes from the the the the heart rate that's what you're appealing often dimming as an scooping scraping off of your teeth but you send but do you think that so. I hear you're saying. But when we eat artichokes or my dad'll artichokes and he would just steam them in said he dipped mcmanis. But then you once you get down to the choke you cut that out with a spoon and then you just eat that heart cut. That i don't know like. I never grew up eating artichokes like ever. Well only time. I really cooked was when i worked for tom cliquot. It's just not something. I grew up eating and but i remember seeing it. I think even have one like hailstones of houston's and i still never ordered it. Do you guys order like a whole steam. Artichoke when you go to a restaurant and you only eat the do it that way where you just pick the leaf out and you basically eat nothing. I mean really. It's just a spoon for. Mayonnaise is a man as spoon each leaf. You get you get not even the tiniest knob of nothing. I think it's so much it is to me. Esteemed artichoke is the enemy. We have reached the zenith of overrated weight on the scale the scale on overrated weight. But can we back up for a second for someone like me. Who has not had a stuffed artichoke. Can you guys talk through exactly what was stuffed with bread crumbs and cheese and burgers how much crumbs cristiana a little a handful like a handful of bread crumbs. I don't get the stuff artichoke at all. Actually jury's out for me on this team one day. I don't think i come along with you on that. Because i got nostalgic for that but i don't get the stuffed. One people always complain about this when you go to a chinese restaurant and you get like salt and pepper crab and they've battered the crab in the shell and then sees it like people who aren't accustomed eating. I don't get this like all the meats inside. Why did they batter the outside. And you're like no dummy like break this up with your teeth and you eat it and you're getting the batter and the crunchy deliciousness. I don't think the same thing applies to this stuffed artichoke. I'm looking at because this seems completely impossible to eat like i don't get it. I don't i don't understand stuffed artichoke. I don't understand the steamed artichoke artichokes in general. Don't pair with any fucking beverage not even delicious cheap beer. I'm not a fan. They're delicious deep fried. The only artichoke. That i will make at home and i'm going to give everybody a recipe. Even though we started off no recipes you take one to one to one ratio one small jar like the smallest jar you can buy of mayonnaise. One can of artichokes drained archer carts one bag of chops frozen spinach one container pint of any kind of grated cheese. You mix it all together. You don't have any salt. He can add some pepper or just add. Momo savory salt mix it all up put it in a baking dish four seventy five till i don't know just cook put in the fucking of until it's golden brown right and i think it will be very happy one of the best and easiest things you can make for people coming over. Is the the one to one to one ratio of the spinach artichoke. Dim tortilla chips. Of course. but now. I guess i should buy steamed artichokes in debited. Yeah noel got a little shade for her smash artichoke. Dip lasts last episode. But we're all about it. Didn't she lose. let's not forget. He did lose that episode club. No well has the worst record in recipe club. History zero percent point zero point zero percent never never again will never be asked on again soon. Whatever okay let's close a cell with the recurring question. What is the best thing. You ate this week Chris and i had Love to eat something for american express and we also were filming a segment that we may or may not released depending on how bad or good it is well. We ordered some love to eat. Tie the best in los angeles. It is so good and The papaya salad just knocked me on my ass. So god damn good. So that's my best thing. I hit all week I have a little story about mine. I was in a little family trip down to santa cruz and it was a busy weekend so the only hotel room could find was like a pretty small hotel room. Usually we try to. We can separate our kids from where we are like a separate sleeping area But instead we were all the four of us crammed into a hotel room and therefore the kids go to sleep. It's like it's lights out for me. And for me and jamie and i got hungry after the kids were asleep and i couldn't turn on the lights in the hotel room to eat and i couldn't do anything in the hotel room but i had a chimney chunga that was waiting for me to be eaten and it was delicious underrated jimmy chunga deep fried burrito and i was it was pitch black. I felt around dark. Till i could find my jimmy chunga and i ate that motherfucker in the bathroom in front the mirror shirtless just stating there over the back. Sink eating hsueh-chang amazing avoiding avoiding i contact with myself and my shame. And i'll tell you what. I never looked at myself and that chimney was the best thing i ate even. If it was very sad that would have been awesome. If you're on mushrooms story we much better mushrooms looking at yourself and your body just like disgusting. You know mushrooms can do. I wasn't. I wasn't so bor doing this. That's for damn sure. And i was like. Do not look up chris. Do your chimney you fucking animal so bad so delicious though well mine is you know going back to it. The meatball soup that my mom taught me how to make over facetime with the actual name. Just call it meatball soup. It has noodles and meatballs. Tell us tell us. Tell us new recipe fairly simple ground pork. Some chopped up shrimp eight to ten. Is what i was told. there's water chestnut an onion that's the meatball with obviously uc's. I wouldn't savory and on the soup is chicken. Broth chicken stock with red boat fish sauce. And what else is in there garlic green onion herbs no herbs filipino. Dave no herbs please And i also got a rice cooker. I have finally gotten one. So i had which one the best assoc- rucci it was great. It was the best rice. Otherwise my stove top priced suck so you know but anyway. That was the best thing. I cook it in any day tomorrow on miami day. Rice has been very very good wishes though. Well i'm still waiting for my any day any day now day. 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Season 2 Finale

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Season 2 Finale

"One year fifty two films and only a handful are going to outer space. This is the unspoiled season to wrap up only my way. Hello everyone and welcome to on. I'm nicholson paul scheer. And this is the show where we are trying to find the hundred best movies of all time now often on the show you will hear us speak about putting together a master list and then blasting that master masterless off space once a year aiming i sit down and we look at our list at the end of season one. We cut down the afi list from one hundred to forty films. And now we have fifty two films in front of us and amy. We're gonna do it again. We're only sending a select feud outerspace. I am ready man. i'm ready. I feel like battle-tested covered in ash. I'm going to do some slashing and burning. Which is we pick these films. We picked these films as good films. I gotta say and now we have to say goodbye amy. I normally think of you as the person who is a willing to slash and burn. But i was very vacation. That's very very very shocked to find that. I had nine films. That was it nine. I patted my list to match your thirteen. But i only had nine. So that's how rough. I was coming into this thing. Look at you you've brutal. I mean i really did. I really did. I really thought about it. And look i can be swayed. I have a couple of things Back and forth but man oh man it was. It was easy and hard to cut this less. I want to hear your experience with it. I'll just quickly tell you where i was having. A little bit of trouble was in the romantic comedy section. Felt like that was a really hard one to kind of pick. What was really representative. And then on top of that. When i looked at my list it felt very eighties to me and that was problematic to me as well. 'cause like oh i don't want this to. I don't want these movies that we all put up to just be representative of my youth. Because obviously i'm committed to these. But i was really wrestling with a lot of stuff and so i put one. Yeah there's a lot of things to talk about. And and i'll be honest that when we get to some of the ones on my thirteen. Let's just going to toss him right out because they don't even believe in four of them. Wow okay okay all right well. Then let's get into it. I mean to recap what we've been through this year. We've gone through an entire year of exploring different corners of cinema that we felt like should be represented in the greatest movies of all time. We went through them as miniseries. We started with back to school so we did a lot of kid film. We did hor- personal favorite of mine weeded eft up family films. Then we did series called couple goals films about romance but not necessarily like yea together forever. Then we did sports films based on true life like the true agony of what happens when people go head to head after that we did space itself since space has been on our mind and we close it out with summer blockbusters and i wanna say paul. I feel exactly the same way because it was very easy in season. One to sit back and be like these guys from the afi. They only like the same five people that only like films from when they were kids. Are they were growing up in the industry. Everything's sixties in the seventies blah blah blah blah war. Movie war movie. War movie western western western. And then i look at my list. I'm like oh. God what if you are as limited your love and so i found myself being know falling victim to movies that made a very strong impression on me. And that is the hardest part of this exercise obviously. I know that there's gonna be a lot of sticklers out there going will you haven't really explored the world of film and that is true like we we are touching into it occasionally and i think it's something that we where we're figuring it out. We got a long way to go. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about where we're going. We're we're getting through it but Where we'd been exactly. I mean so. We have our lists. We know our lists. We have them in front of us now. And i'm surprised some of the stuff here i see yours i mean how do you want to break it down now. I will also say that we as always we'll bring in our producer engineer devon josh to also win because they have been you know they've they've had a lot of strong opinions well. They've sat here. They listen to us and i. It's always good to hear them kind of share. Where they're at as well exactly devon and josh has been so strong with us helping shape. Our individual mini series. What to include. in fact. we've been talking about. We're going to do in our series after this to kick off season three and is want to give a shadow devon kazman. He got some twisted picks. That are right up my alley when we get back into horror. Yeah we'll all come in the future. Maybe where we start with this. What we did on our A rush anelle to get some choices going is. We both individually. Did our own list. I had thirteen as as as paul mentioned paw at nine. Then he added thirteen around thirteen to be as cool as me and then blindly we had them compiled together and wherever we overlapped. I feel like we can both stay strongly if we agreed on something if we picked films that agreed out of this grand landscape of fifty two. That's a strong case for that one going into into indoor space exactly and if you want to know where we are right now If you go to unspoiled pod dot com. There's our current list. We won't go through them right now. Because there's forty films there and but i'm gonna pull it up because we might wanna kick something off that list. I want to just open that up to make sure that that is available to us if we find something better. Do we find something that is you know More worthy of taking one of those forty spots. We don't have to just say that these forty are cemented in eternity and i think that that's been something that you and i both have talked about like we are always open to pushing and pulling things off the list. Yeah it's incredibly because there's directors that have films on af. I listen we like maybe we could replace with other ones. Instructors at the end of this year have made it onto my list of made it close to getting on my list but the only hesitation is. Are there better films by. I'd rather present instead. Okay i can you get into this. No i'm going to say. I think that you and i were probably on the same page. Because there's too. I think there's two omissions or maybe one omission from me but well we'll get into those too. I think i know what we're talking about. And maybe kind. Just jump out and say wes anderson and the cohen brothers. Who is our major because we want them on the list exactly in the films that we picked in this last year for we picked other royal tenenbaums for cohen brothers. We picked raising arizona both films. I love deeply but it is hard to press that button. It's really hard to win. There's so much of them that you love well and that was the kind of question i was talking about. Do we put on the list as a placeholder and then let it get knocked off organically if we watch something else but there was. There is something about it now. Just jump in and just say one of the ones. I wrestled with was the royal tenenbaums. I love the royal tenenbaums. But then i'm like well is rushmore better than the royal tenenbaums. And then i started to think about the grand budapest hotel and then i was like oh what. What is the perfect sanderson. We've had this conversation. And i and i do believe i. I mean i love the route tenenbaum's. It's a great great movie. I'm just. I was really on the fence that is we can only take one. Is that the one. And if we're disease the as a placeholder then absolutely yes. But when i was putting together my list. I wasn't quite sure that that is better. Then rushmore or grand budapest hotel. I don't know. I mean it's very close to me very clean for me. I would hands down to patel. Tell is my favorite was andersonville ivy league. That is the one where his visual aesthetic. Actually combines with the meaning of the film and they forum to create an even greater whole sit doesn't feel dislike cute for the sake of cute as much as i was happy to rewatch royal tenenbaums and like rediscover what i loved about that film before. I got so sick of people dressing up like for halloween. That was important but yet so that one is a huge question. Mark for me. The other one is raising arizona film that we talked about. Because i mean my problem with the cohen's is every single time i watch a cohen film. That is my favorite cohen film. And it will say my favorite coen film. Until i watch another cohen film and then that will be my favorite coen film. So this moving target enough. I feel like. I'm shooting at a bunch of spinning plates. That are being thrown up in the air when it comes to deciding what go on my want to be on the list. We only have two directors currently on the list that have two slots and we were very wary of giving directors one slot because we really wanted to put the pressure on us. And i know a lot of people have an issue with this like they don't like that we are narrowing it down to one. But i think that that's part of the fun of this show is that we are forcing ourselves in a whole. Like if you could only like you can make you can have a restaurant that has amazing dishes but you have to pick the best one. It's not saying the other ones are bad. It just saying we are. We are forcing ourselves to pick a last meal. Our last meal can't be every meal even though i think a lot of people do get pizza and mcdonald's and sushi but let's not you know again i don't know much about death-row row meals. I'm sure there's millions of podcasts about it. i'm sure there's at least gave me thinking about going to phase which is so deeply do so right now when we look at the previous owner coming into this episode with the forty that we have called it down to impressively we have managed to keep it to only two directors having to films each on the list. One of them is kubrick. Kubrick has dr strangelove and he has two thousand and one a space odyssey We have not yet been able to tear ourselves in half and just pick one of them to go forth and the second one who has to films on the list hitchcock. He's got vertigo. And he's got rear window. And i will say that the cohen brothers feel like and i'm sure people are going to be so mad because we're not saying this about spielberg and it will say i feel like i am much more like the shaved head military heart s about trying to keep one director to one film on the list but those ones i think the reason i'm dragging my feet because these are examples of directors whose body of work has such a range from drama to absolute on spectacle to comedy and it is hard to decide what element of them to pick. I'm not quite there yet. In honestly i believe the coens kind of fall into that same type of director category. They are so good drama. They are so good at comedy went. I could be happy in a world where we just had raising arizona because i think it captures so much of what they do so well it has so much heart. I agree and it is so beautiful but i'm not ready to pull that trigger. I felt exactly the same now. People probably screaming about well. Why don't you feel the same way about spielberg. And i'm here to say i do. I think that spielberg's body of work is equally impressive to kubrick and hitchcock and the cohen's in the sense of it's so incredibly diverse and groundbreaking and we really were hard on him the last time we cut about five of his movies off and the only kept et as the ultimate articulation of. What spielberg is. I still believe that that is true but you know we have the jaws dress park debate. There's a lot there's a lot going on. We have a lot in front of us here. And i guess we should maybe get into what we agree about right now because i think that would be the easier part of this conversation. Okay let's do it. Let's see you wanna just announced them. Wanna trade off the films that we agreed kind of say. How one of let us to agree with you. I felt really excited that our list matched up pretty pretty good. Yeah it made me feel doubly confident and might fix by the way. How many picks matched up nine. How many did i pick nine. Oh there you go. Let's be declared about our nine. These are going in. We did it man. I am very proud. You under straight off announcing them. Yup okay and these are unranked. They're just happened to be arguments number one back to the future in. I think that we talked about this a lot before it held up. It's great it's i believe the only time travel film on our list right now so Welcome to the list. Time travel and a big kind of modern comedy to. We don't really have a modern comedy on our list. So directly so welcome with can i say in asterix just in case we do roger rabbit and it does not get enough. Okay you could say you can say it all you number two night of the living dead. I mean that was a no brainer for me. Absolutely no brainer for me to have a film in indie film women such just like energy in such staying power in the culture so much to say i think about about fear and the way people react to each other in times of crisis. This conversation was one of my favorite conversations. We had this whole year. I totally agree Art number three the princess bride all right so i wrestled with this pick because i love this movie but i was really trying to look at it in the list. Is it one of the best films. And i think what stuck out to me about it and why it edged up on my list was because it is a very different film than what we have. It kind of captured a lot of the swashbuckling. A fairy tale world that we. That's not represented. Its genre of film. That i think has done really really well here and it seems incredibly unique to me. So that's what edged it forward. And i have to say over when harry met sally which is another. Rob reiner film. I hear that. I came down to the same decision. I thought when we started this year. When harry met sally was going to be a natural in absolutely but when i really legally them end to end to me the princess bride is one of those films that i actually put it kind of closer to the world of say a wizard of is where it is just a perfect classic. It just murphy. It is as perfect as it is and right now on our lists like wizard as number two as one of those films that just it just is cinema to me and the princess bride is that like on our episode. Said that if if i was stuck on a desert island with only one movie i bring with me for ever it would probably be the princess bride because i think it has everything everything in every good movie done perfectly and i yeah i would put this up there as like and i'm trying to see through like my eighties nostalgia of being a kid. I think i would put this as a classic in that. Same world of wizard was i. I fully here that and then another movie that we both agreed on. It's our fourth pick was actually very easy. Pick for me in the sense that when we talked about back to school movies we were talking about. What is the perfect coming of age film. I think we saw many things. I'm going to include house party in that discussion as well I really. I actually wrestled with house party because it's like. Oh this actually represents visually something that we don't even have on the less. But at the end of the day when i was really thinking about the filmmaking of it i couldn't i couldn't not put fast times at ridgemont high on this list. Absolutely not yeah. I mean i feel like i'm the biggest house party champion of all time. Yeah and and yet at ridgemont high is it is an actual. It is a real serious work. Like i just love this film showing up in the early eighties. I love it as a story about young adulthood. I love it for everything you can see in this film about like the economy about working about relationships of a me that so relevant today mean even just recently somebody tweeted. A meat was a picture of you. Know damone. the rat who get stacy pregnant and judge reinhold. Who plays brother who drives her the abortion clinic and said you know under the new texas law. Damone get stacy pregnant ditches. Or doesn't take her to get the abortion and is totally fine and her brother who loves her drives her to the clinic is now like going to be sued. His film just stays relevant to me well and also it welcomes our first female director to our list. Which is something that was not something that was happening on the actual afl there are no female directors on the pilot so this was one of the first films lead on the on our second season. And it's our first female addition to the list. Thank god executive. Get a brown all right. so Yeah no the other one wrestled with in this was coolest. We're gonna get to talk about the ones that have not made it. Because i want to hear devon josh's opinion about stuff to say their names one last time as goodbye. Oh yeah goodbye. Clueless not i mean again. Coolest was another one. that was What do i do i mean. But it's amy heckling. And i if i'm picking between two amy hecker wings this is this is the one All right let's let's go forward here and number five. Yes newest film. We've talked about and yet yeah ferry road number five. We are completely in agreement with this. I mean it's epic it is storytelling. It is visual it is mighty it holds up like nobody's business Even though it's recent it holds up. But i mean it is. I think it's one of those films that it's shocking and how excitingly different it is and i think very rarely do we see these movies. That can come out of a theater and be like. Oh my god. I love it. It was so cool that sequences so cool people really railed on us for not talking about the hallway sequence in inception but yes. There's a lot of cool sequences in movies but this movie from from to is got going on. I mean this is. This is a great. This is a great movie it is again. I i enjoy the perversity of putting on the fourth film. And a franchise display like. Yeah there you go breaking away from this idea that we have when we created still fight against. It's like the first is the best when it does. The first is the most important. No i a big issue of that. Yeah i don't think that that's true. Which is why. I think you know not to pull it all in. But why frankenstein is not on our list. We watch frankenstein. Frankenstein is sets the tone and we loved. I mean again. We love these movies. So it's not about what is good. It's just simply what fits on this list and and just because it's the first doesn't always mean it's yeah it's the best. People can improve upon in even directors who've made their own films can improve upon themselves. Angry agree this is your argument for jurassic park. Take us to number six tokyo story. Tokyo story was a movie. That i'd never seen. And i was really blown away by and i think similar to fast times it captures a universal truth about families and age and death and it also opens up our list to a little bit more of an international appeal But i really. I have thought about this movie a lot. I really liked this movie And i think it is a beautiful beautiful Of a beautiful family fell. And i'm happy that we're getting yesterday ozo- on the list. He is such an epic for filmmaker from japan. This movie i think to me represents like a moment in the fifties when we really reaching out and starting to discover more world cinema again in this country like his stuff is so influential. I felt like when we watch tokyo story for this episode. You could see how it ricocheted through every single filming series that like every filmmaker. I was kind of using it as a touchtone or it was influenced by the films that was influenced by it. Felt like such a landmark moment. Know i really am really proud to welcome this to the list. Absolutely i mean that was kind of a no brainer one for me as well And they also wrestled a little bit with the farewell. Because i really liked the farewell. And i like that story of going home and being divorced from a culture that that was an interesting story as well but this one felt like it had More permanent to me Tokyo i also loved the way was directed and i'm glad to welcome our first foreign language film to the list. Yes and no. So as we're announcing our i this is another. I coming up our next film all right. Our number seven film on the list are first documentary. Hoop dreams yes. This was an audience pick. Virtue left sports stories segment and it is just. It is just to me like one of the landmark documentaries and watching two young kids both loving basketball both talented at basketball grow up in deal both at the limits of their own athleticism the limits of where their talents which seems so bright an absolutely boundless when they're young wrestling with how life shoves zoo in different directions. It's it's absolutely beautiful. The documentary think plays with the big scale of fiction. It feel you get so invested in these characters in. This is the kind of document filmmaking that i really am drawn to really character focused documentaries where you love people and in loving these people that you're watching get such an insight into how our world and our culture works. That is just end as interesting to talk about. And i'm so glad that that we voted on. Yeah no again. The sports series as far as like the people who listen to the show was not a hit series. People did not like this series but they loved this movie. And i will say that looking at our sports picks i think we tried to find a bunch of different ones but i don't think we have mastered that series. I also feel like people checked out in that series. Which is really interesting. Because i always feel like. That's a topic. That always feels like a no brainer. Like everyone loves a sports movie but It was harder to find something that really kind of connected here in hoops dreams. I think was the one that emotionally brought everyone in an era of dc chariots of fire. Again obi oh god comes to accept when it comes to number eight pick. That's also coming from the sports series. You're right oh my gosh. I forgot about this. Well you know the reason why. I forgot about this. A sports series pick was because the movie that we talked about a lot in our first season. A movie that we wanted to do Director that we wanted to make sure was on the list and that is penny. Marshall on the movie is a league of their own so great we have. I think again another female director on the list. Nice we finally have We're not anywhere near parody. But we at least have to so far. And and yeah. I love this movie. it's a great movie too. I adore. i adore. This movie is like insight into a moment in history. I think had been really overlooked until this film came out like this film helped tell american history better the whole story like the female baseball leagues here in the country. I think to me this film talks about sisterhood. With the people that you're related to and the people that you bond with as your as your adopted sisters in a way that is not on the list at all. Like i feel like female friendship gets so short changed to have a film that puts it front and center women working for a common goal women working to try to figure out who they want to do with their life type of character as complicated into me. Frustrating as daddy. You know who's good at everything can't figure out what she values can't say out loud to her what she wants to do with her life ito the that a person who i think doesn't do what we wanted to do. Decides to leave. Baseball goes home and gets married. But in that way is truthful to the story of so many women who didn't feel like they could follow their dreams like that character breaks my heart and and at the same time. I love this film for making choices at penny marshall did to like not have romance in there for no reason not make her have to like have an affair with tom. Hanks thank gonci. Shot that seed and cut it out like to have like real just relationships between people. I hate that it feels as rare as it does In that in that movie likely with her own it stands out so much because it seems notable. But i'm just. I adore every minute of this. Also madonna and rosie o'donnell forever love. You can't beat And then our final pick. Amy brings home. Well our ninth film. I guess we've really got to joe for this is bridesmaids of film that. I was shocked that. I'm putting it on my list at the end if you had asked me earlier this summer when we were picking out our blockbuster list i would have said we should probably do bridesmaids. I guess it's like landmark important right like we always talk about the bridesmaids effect blah blah blah blah blah. We should do it. I felt like it was a should and then ry watching it did divorce myself from the conversation around bridesmaids and really see that film to see beyond like can we get female numbers high for a female lynn driven film in a box office wise. Can we get more films like this dress. We never got more films like this in part because this is a film so strongly about economic pressures friendship pressures really also super character-driven. A character comedy with the script that i think is just absolutely unbelievable. There's something about this movie. Being the last agreed upon. One that you and i have because i think it hits all the beats we were talking about. There's a universal theme to it. I think that You know it also. It shows a different side to something. I think it it it. He it just as a a movie that i think will continue to be relevant. It is a movie that is like very funny on top of that but it has a little bit extra. There's something a little bit extra about. And i think all of these movies do something that other films have done but this one just feels like it's going to stand the test of time more than others and i think that there's the i didn't know if it was just because we just talked about it and then i wrestled with it as i do. I really feel that way in right now. I do feel that again looking at the list and also looking at the stories that we have told right now we are telling some different stories and and were telling some stories here. And i didn't make this my list at all thinking in a way of making it equal or anything but i think when you look at back to the future netted living princess bride fast times. Fury road took your story hoop dreams. In a league of their own and bridesmaids we are representing a little bit of a different subset of culture that we had been in the eyeless. It just feels like oh. These are different stories that we are telling and highlighting. And i really. I don't know if it was just coming off the list. But i'm excited about that. I'm like oh yeah this makes it start to feel what there's a world outside of just like white men and war and cowboys but nothing's more important than white men in war cowboys at work unspoiled sponsored by better help online therapy so he as we begin to see light at the end of this. 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It's kind of a a spiritual companion to the night of the living dead and it's so unique and bizarre and i had people reach out to go. Well this is better on. How did this get made then unspools but there is something about that movie in the last fifty. Two that we've done that. I think about all the time like that movie really now like i don't wanna say fuck me up because i think that that's the job a cheat of a phrase it just imprinted on me and away and i don't want to say it like this but i'm gonna use it as comparison piece. I firmly believe that on this list of one hundred films the room. The tommaso movie needs to be on this list. I say it. And i said it before. And i'll say it again because when you make something that is so universally Like they they call it the worst the best worst movie ever made. I believe that is also worth studying as well like there. Something about it. That makes it unique. I'm not saying put you know. Gary bucy's the gingerbread man on here. I'm saying the room is captured. Something and i feel like i want to also represent something that is incredibly unique and that we have a whole episode about gone jean hess but that was a movie that really. I know it's not going to go on the list. But i wanted to just at least talk about it. One more time in. Mali just corrected me. It's called the ginger deadman not the gingerbread man. Well i mean you're not alone in feeling that way. Either one of the things. I did to prepare the for. This episode is when i realized this morning where we didn't overlap like the eight films that like together. We picked that the other person didn't pick your foreign. My four i went and i looked at our audience. Voting poll for how they felt about that film In what did they think. Because i was thinking like well. I want to have our audience input in here as a tiebreaker and i will say of your picks that i did not also pick. There's a lot. More support for guardian has the newest for an i'll spoil picks now jurassic park. That's really interesting. I'm just looking at this now. Eighty two percent thought that khanjian has should be on the list. I feel really vindicated right. Now he did not see that right. Now i'm just really excited that. That gun has got a little bit of representations because they do also believe that as we're creating this list it captured something very different. I mean it was a movie unlike anything else in that list like right now. It's unlike anything else in this. Now i feel like maybe i should argue to keep this almost. I don't know. I mean maybe you should. I went to you know our listeners opinions on this to kind of pull them like joe birch said you know i loved it. Capital loved his brilliant piece of cinema. Honestly reminded me of tarkovsky. It's a real piece of art until more about the visuals secretion of mood with relatively little care for plot and character. This is art house cinema and it's not going to be for everyone. But i just found this one of the most refreshing and exciting films i've seen for a while Another person who loved it vicky farmer. She said there's a lot to unpack in this movie. It's about addiction diaspora identity class. I kept watching hoping for the next striking seen does. It's very sad. That bill on the director Didn't have the backing of producers. Who could think out of the box and get his film to the audiences who would appreciate it at the time. This happened in an era in which alto became a sensation. And i wish that they had had more faith in the film. That bill gunn gave them so there is love it also tracy walker said when she watched it that she feels like she just tripped on acid also also a fair thing for him live. I truly truly felt the same way i was like. What am i watching and again. It's the same way that it felt about mad. Max where am i Fury road where am i. I'm just so. I'm leaning in no use that term a lot on this show but i'm like i'm leaning into fascinated by this movie. So maybe maybe we keep in the conversation right now before we kinda you know some love so now give me one of the ones that that we don't agree on well. One of the ones that we don't agree on that you picked was home alone. I did not alone in our listeners. Only sixty one percent of them also agreed of that home alone should be sent into space pretty low number. Compared speaking home alone was definitely one. That i felt like i really enjoy and i you know i think i was really wanting a john hughes on this list and it's not a typical john hughes i think there'll be a better giannis. It's not even john he's movie. It's giannis written movie directed by christopher columbus. But there is something about that movie. That i don't that resonates with me and it really grew on me and now seeing how much kids love it. Oh wow it really transcends time. And there's no movies with kid protagonists and we. We haven't had that. You know we're talking about kind of creating a full full scope of the human condition and where where is. Where is that idea like. I think every kid. I mean the torture idea will look obviously. That's in there but But he knew that every kid has this kind of fantasy and want and and. I think there's something really special about this movie but i also see why people could turn their nose up at it as well. I won't die on this hill but face for this hill. We did a whole episode of black monday this year. Where we got the script of home alone and then recreated it in a cabin in the woods which is one of my favorite dumb jokes of the whole season but Can when. I watched that episode. Because i have watched her whole series. That made me laugh and i could just picturing your delight on that set. I mean we have the two home alone jokes as season says one of our character saw preview of it like even though it was months before it actually came up but all right. I'm going to let go of home alone. i'm going to let go of it. I gave you my reasoning for it but the audiences against me. I know you're against me. And i believe that. There's a john hughes film in our future on this list and we have not found that yet and and that is if i had to pick john hughes movie that would definitely not be it and i'd also say if i have to pick a christopher columbus movie I don't know. I don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know well. They uh that. When i will say goodbye to is one that i think i'm saying goodbye to for reasons. We kinda talked about earlier in this episode. Which is raising arizona. A did pick raising arizona after all. I do really love that film Listeners only gave it sixty seven point. Three percent Because i think they're feeling that same way that we are wrestling with like is this the cohen. It's just too big of a decision to decide the cohen party. Would it be okay. Put on a list with an astro saying asterix. Saying i may die in the future right but also it's not like we're gonna forget that we wanna cohen. We know that we will know. I totally agree with you. That was we talked about it. That's i wrestled with it. I still think if we wanna put it on as a placeholder to know that a cohen will go on there. I'm fine to do that. And just go like at a certain point. We can revisit it because we have yet to do another cohen. So i'm fine to get. Just get it on the list. If we were to die tomorrow we have a cohen brothers movie on the list. I'm fine. I'm fine about that but it may not be the final one. The final verdict. That is fair. Are you ready for something. Really painful for you. Yes yeah i think jurassic park's gonna go man. I know you've really put in your argument for why jurassic park should be on this list over jaws. We don't even have jobs on this list and realizing what what bump with it. Oh really didn't care. I literally was going through the list. And i was there. I don't think i don't. I don't think it needs to be on this list. I don't know what it was. i just yup. i don't care. I know we've made have made many an argument about this. And it actually felt last night thinking that has jazz or jurassic park and i thought jaaz on our list. I don't care. I don't care i don't know why i don't know why i'm not going into it more than that it. It hit me last night. I'm like this is going to be the shocker framing but yeah notorious for you feel like you just stepped on me with your big drastic feet. You're gonna say drastic parker. At and t. has down anytime that is. I think completely the rational response and if you argues for the number out there The number of audience people who would have voted drastic mark in seventy seven point five so a decent number but everything. We're going to talk about now. Got much more except for another. One of my picks has to go because it didn't even have a poll so if a little loan it is a trip to the moon i would put a trip to the moon. Appear in space in a heartbeat may. Because it's so small. I can dislike tack it onto the end credits of some other film somewhere or just say goodbye to it but i think trip to the moon really important. I think that you. I think it is important but i think when you have two thousand one i think that two thousand and one is ultimately not saying the same thing but the look we whenever you get to a silent film and what they're able to do and the ideas and the and and the they it's like reading jules verne right very rarely. Do people say like oh jules. Verne is my favourite author but yet he has been responsible for some of the biggest sci-fi ideas. If you go back you can find that like he is. The heap pushed forward these ideas and he got often gets forgotten about so. I agree with you in the sense of trip to the moon is it creates so many things we know about space films in. It's so many it's so interesting and so you know it's fifteen minutes or whatever it is. It's very short thirty minutes And malaise is like. I think inventing so much of the language of cinema in this film. Like putting it on amy really. You'll do that for me it. I'm going to do it because you know what we talked about. The idea that also short films. Don't get enough credit and you're right million like Is not somebody who is represented and if you like we need to put him on the list. And and i'm i'm going in and look at me and making some my birthday is not even thank you so there you go all right so all right so then i'm going to bring up my final one that we disagree on There's one more that you have that i don't have. And that is Groundhog day groundhog day. To me was a no brainer. In the sense of when i couldn't put harry met sally on the list and the reason why i actually went to princess bride over when harry met. Sally was because it's like. Oh this is. This is a great love story. It's also something that we all wrestle with trying to be You know perfect or trying to change her ways they original story that i feel like people try to copy so much. No one's ever done it quite so well. I think it's one of the best bill murray movies. I think it's an amazing herald ramos movie and this is coming from someone. Who if i had my druthers ghostbusters would be on this list. But i don't think ghostbusters is as good a film as groundhog day. As far as what. It is in scope and tone and content so groundhog day to me. Just feels like yeah yeah. It's a no brainer. But it's not on your list. It isn't on my list but it came very close to being a malaise. I almost put it on my list for you. I was thinking. Like i would i. This film means i'm watching it. I do think it is a marvelous marvelous movie that i will be more than content for this bill to be on the list and i did also take the liberty of looking at what our listeners thought. They love this film. This film has like eighty six point. Two percent. That is massive. That is huge. I mean some of the things. People are saying about groundhog day Ross wilder says. I love this movie with a passion. You groundhog day masquerades. As a frothy sitcom the uninspired camera work that she's music the complete lack of flash. Yes it did really. We did really rag on that song this movie but it is a brilliant and profound work of art. It delves into deep metaphysical and existential questions. This film should have won. Best picture in nineteen ninety-four. Those are strong words from russ waldorf related to that one beth's needs she wrote i love. It captures the monotony of winter. So well is something that ramos. Murray both new i and she lists several reasons why she loves this film in her piece of one of the ones that really sick out to me is our last one. She says any. No rita is a sweet geek. Who doesn't have to change a one bit. Not even her close either realizing that she wasn't staying in punxsutawney overnight. She is not perfect. But phil comes deliver. Exactly as she is and that feels really rare in the movies. Yeah i mean so where do you think what like what holds you back. I don't let's do it. It's on grandma. Look at that. Look all right all right now. We have two more films to talk about here right. we yeah we did. Yeah now there were two more on my list. That i put up that you did not put up that we should do. The first one was brokeback mountain. I really wrestled with this. And i think the reason why i wrestled with this was only because i was so into every one of the romance films that we did that. I think i looked at that. That category with a very harsh i. We can only bring in one and and and that's where. I wrestled with it. Now if i'm talking about representation and i'm talking about expanding our world view a little bit. It's gotta be on the list right. It's got to be. But i also wrestling the fact that i think it was the first and i don't know if it's the best. I think it is amazing and again. The caveat is it's a great movie. But i think they're better stories that we have yet to do on this show then that and i will say the reason one of the reasons why is i also would love to see someone who is gay. Direct that film or tell that story or or not that. That means that you can't do that. But i would love to see the difference. The differences in in that is it something that i can like the performances. They are great. The direction is great. But is there something. That's maybe a little bit more truthful or something a little bit more. You know not inside baseball but something. That is a little bit more personal. That that's where i was wrestling with it. That's really at the end of the day. is this broke the barrier. But i don't think it is the end. I think that is a fair argument. Because i wouldn't want us to have this film on the list and then be like we did it. I mean here's a movie about two gay. Men not played by gay men directed by a non a non queer director. You know it's like it just feels like there's like to me. It feels like a little bit like that was the movie that needed to get made so then movies like this get made important in that way. Yes but in the grand scheme of our existence. There's gonna be a better stories to tell you. No you swayed me. I was gonna fight harder for this and it had a fair amount of support. Eighty one point six percent which is not that's fairly substantial but yeah it is the check it off. We did it. that i don't wanna do at acres. You're right you're absolutely right about this. I mean i think it's beautiful and i this film. I think had such beautiful things written about it like our listeners. Do really really admire so much of this film. I mean many people said that they think this is heath ledgers absolute best performance in i can i say one thing here too and this kind of negates my point but i will also bring it up like i think. Call me by your name. Might be better than brokeback mountain really. Yeah but i think. Moonlight is better than all three of those. I would agree with that. And we haven't even talked about portrait of a lady on fire. You know there's a lot of. I think there's a lot of stuff out there and even in the last year that are you know i mean. Could you put the favorite in there. I don't know it's like favorite. You know like there's a lot. There's a lotta stuff out there that i feel like we haven't even gotten into that world fully. It is true it is true and one of the things that was interesting is even the people who raved about this movie. Many of them said the middle's kind of lumpy or the middle kind of sags. Okay by the way. I just want to say like i'm not saying and i really want to make clear in this. We can only have one. I'm just saying. But i don't know if this is the i think again. It's represents something that was important at the time. But i don't think will be the defining thing more than being the i kind of like in the frankenstein idea like it's it's i mean that is important gets out there but i think we are opening ourselves up to so many more interesting stories. I mean i. There's so many newer stories being told in a in a way that you know we're just getting to see different stories. Being told now by different people i mean a and then i think that. That's you know there's a lot there's a lot more personal stories and more interesting stories out there that can be put on this list. That's jail and you're right. There is a piece of me wants a happier story. That doesn't have to say like the world is always doom and gloom does that. I don't know yeah. Like i feel like the early two thousands late nineties early. Two thousands was punishing in the way that it treated like queer characters to to emphasize the tragedy element of it. I feel like that's where culture wasn't a larger scale. And i'm glad we're just in like a people love. Nobody has to dowry mode. Yeah okay fair enough. All right so it's gone And then the last one this is what am i supposed. You didn't pick this one eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. Okay so let me explain why i didn't pick this one. I didn't pick this one because it was also in the romance category and obviously it's a different movie than typical romance. But they're suing again. I was being a little bit harder. on the romance section because they like them all so much and i started to feel like our all of our picks too much from the certain time period. That going i was looking at it. I i guess what i was feeling was bridesmaids a league of their own fury road princess bride back to feature. Now those all are primarily. You know they feel newer to me. And i felt like turtle sunshine. They also like lumped in there. Does it feel like we just did a clump. i mean obviously. There's a lot of time differences. I know that's early ninety. S the visuals late eighties. And but like is it all choose. Similar is the best gandhi. i think so is it. Maybe one of the best. Jim carrie performances. I think so. I think You know i think. Does it tell a story that we haven't really heard the really amazing break-up yeah there's so i also loved i mean we're talking about like depressing love story. I also liked a place in the sun. Awhile you liked it. Oh i'm sorry that movie but it's wrestled with it. I wrestled with it. And i think that eternal sunshine for me got knocked because it felt I don't know. I just felt like it was i was. I couldn't separate myself from it. I couldn't feel like oh. I wanted to be not like the list people. But i'm open to being said you love it and i think it's a beautiful movie and i think it's great but and that said i mean we still barely have any films from the two thousand when we had in the afc Only when they had was lord of the rings so even if we add we still like twenty two films the last two decades and they'd still just have proportional representation more or less not that we should not that we should but i don't think we can. I don't think we should feel so guilty about it. I mean about this one in particular like demi eternal shange sunshine stands out as one of the top five films of the two thousands I adore my only hesitation. Is i'm such a kaufman head but this being directed by gandara means that i can. I can have my attornal sunshine and make my play. I deke and see. If i get any traction on that. I mean i love schenectady bake. It is one of my favorites. I love every to me. It is like the human version of inception It also eternal sunshine in our listener. Group had such ravenous at. I mean this out of everything that we've name so far. This was the number one audience. Pick of everything that we didn't agree on eighty six point three percent of really wanted in the things people wrote about it. What are the commonalities was it. Everybody loved this film was terrified to watch it again. Because it's so emotional samantha. Glasser wrote one of my favorites for me. The statement about the movie is different. Every time i watch it. Sometimes i feel optimistic about their relationship that they're into together. Sometimes i feel like they're doomed to clash but there is something beautiful about the conflict and the and the fact that even if they're doomed to fail they are an essential piece of each other's lives in that even if they aren't meant to be together they can create beautiful and happy and vitamins for each other rally german picked up on that same theme. He said you know. I've tried it so many parts of this through the years. When i was in college it was the end. The idea that they could just start over. Probably end up hating each other again then. I went through a break-up the break-up and it was all the fighting and the needling and the sites or if kirsten and tom and mark in this time it was the delivery of. I don't want this anymore and i don't know if it's because of the care. Gandhi brings to coffins humanity or the pureness of two surrealist. Marrying perfectly together or my stupid mushy heart. Attaching this to my own life. But i don't care meet me in montauk aliens in what really sticks out to me of those two pieces and would a lot of people said is that eternal sunshine is a movie that grows with you that it changes on every watch that you pull out different things that it means different things to you at different stages in your life which to me is the mark of a truly great film that it is not just a guilty pleasure that you put on because it makes you laugh every time but that it may create something different to you the way the back to the future did i thought when we watched it i would put it a strong argument for for yes. I'm not gonna fight you on it. I'm not gonna because you. Because i don't disagree with everything that people are saying. Obviously this is a movie that people really really love. Who listen to the show so i i don't disagree with it. I think your idea of like maybe we can get some more movies on this list. That are a little bit more updated and current. And i and i want andre on this list. I don't think there's going to be a better gandhi unless we haven't seen yet I also think it's such a unique idea. And it's the reason why i would pick this over inception. This far is like what you know. We're talking about going into people's thoughts and the way that dreams and interpretation like Yeah so this to me goes on the list. I'm gonna put it on the list. Absolutely that is wonderful. How 'bout how about sweetened the pot even though don't you disagreed. Let's put gun. Jean hess analysts. I i like it. I like it. I think this is a good. I think there's a good argument. And i think if anything it might make people go back and listen to that episode and watch this movie because it is clearly for the people who've watched you have to be up for it. It's it is an arthouse art art house with like a capital like a. It's not like art house a little movie. it's like it's it's wild. I love that became back to gone. Has i love that. We put this on the list. And now i wanna go over to devon and josh and see what they would they held. And i think one of the things that they put on there less they both agreed on this That was not on ours. Was the royal tenenbaums. So devon josh pop on arts a royal tenenbaums. Make your argument. We've talked about obviously. Is it the best wes anderson. G both think it's the best. What's anderson or do you think this out of this this bachelor we've done. This is the this deserves to be on. The list man debited really warmed my heart to see both of us movie. I do think this like the. It's like just just coming up into like a certain generation. I feel like it just to meet. The argument is to kind of with it. It's one of the best wes anderson and to is it like the most like influential or like culturally and morton anderson for the first one of those. I think there's a strong argument grant. Budapest i think i think for sure the best example of like his earliest style and this style that really broke out of that he eventually would kind of polish make a little bit more like stylized district. Yeah but that'll the second score. I just feel like this is the movie that really broke him out in terms of like this is the movie the like the cultural vegetation like the one that got the oscar attention. The one that like i. I really like defied. The regeneration influenced like all the all the address sony filmmakers. That came after him. I think we're doing tenenbaum's yeah. I mean i would say for me a bottle. Rocket is my favorite. Wes anderson movie. And i'll go a step further bottle rocket. I have said many times before is damn near my favorite movie ever made because it's so light it's so funny all the comedy from the characters. It's just it's just a delight. And i'm very happy for that to just remain my own personal favorite. I know that people don't agree with me on that point. I love most wes anderson movies. Royal tenenbaums is special. Royal tannenbaums is very very special especially for the age that i was it came out just after nine. Eleven and i was twenty one and went to go. See it with all my friends. We were still spun. It was only like a month or so later. And there's something about the faded glory in that movie that suited that moment in my life. And i can come back to it and feel it every single time. It never fails to reduce me to tears. That moment when gene hackman ben stiller that moment when that at the end of that long shot. And i had. I'm gonna start trying now just talking about it. I will say yes grant. Budapest is a more advanced style like in every way i mean the the music and also all the frame the changing of the different frame sizes and everything throughout it to where you are in the story in flashback. You're in grand. Budapest is really really fantastic. But i just don't know that from my perspective. You could pick a more. Perfectly wes anderson movie than world tannenbaums. That's just where i'm at. I will i. I'll tell you this much. If i am picking anderson movie and i'm not judging it on anything else. It's this movie this movie. I read the script. Oh absolutely like the script is beautiful. It's just everything about it. i love and i. i don't know if you're saying this seven. So i don't wanna put words. I can appreciate grand budapest hotel but much stronger emotional connection to route ten about. I would agree with that. One hundred percent yep grand. Budapest will hit me emotionally too. I do like ops. All the details and fides performance. And the way i answer the entire framing device. I mean it really. It really kills me. It's not an easy pick. But do i do think tended bombs kind of has the edge. Okay what if i suggest putting tenenbaum's on with an asterix i'm very in favor of that. I'm very in favor of that as well. I was going to suggest that anyway. So that's great all right so that that is a good one. I want to say that just so you know because you guys can't see our full list right now but we did all agree pretty much on back to the future league of their own netted living dead And everybody but josh agreed. Princess bride and and then devon did not agree on fast times fury road our tokyo story now. Do you wanna speak to any of those. I will launch straight in motherfuckers whereas clueless on this list so over fast times. This is what i'm saying now. Now look there are multiple directors on our list at this moment which are couple that we've allowed a couple picks in there yes fast time and clueless are both very very different flavors and approaches to the same kind of subject matter. I think they're both really valid in their own in their own way and they provide a completely different emotional connection and everything i mean. They're they're very very different movies. I wouldn't say that it would be at the cost of fast times. But i think clueless is maybe the best comedy of the nineties. Certainly the best cast film. I can maybe think of every character in it is just bucking perfect. Don't really disagree with any of that. i ended. i wasn't even sure clueless outed frankly but if it counts like i think it's kind of dicotheque with has time for me. I mean i love clueless but you have to say when we're talking about the range of directors comparing fast times to clueless is not two thousand one. A space is screen. I agree with you with you. I'm merely sort of saying you know if you're allowing a couple of I'm only asking the question of where the fuck is glucose. Because it's such not only. Is it a good movie. It's one of the most replaceable movies. All right at that. We've covered. And i know this from road testing it myself. You can watch it twenty thirty times and it still is funny. It still holds up you know. I don't disagree with that. I think to me you know. I was like amy heckling two movies about high school. One obviously is emma and one is is really almost like a dramatization of a documentary. So they are love fast times. I really really love. Owned the i'm all in. I love fast times. Yeah this is it. And so i just really wanted to talk about it. We know i'm glad that you did. Because i do believe that. This is like for me. Some i wrestled with really really think this is like a special movie that people love. And then i do. I am one of those people. I yeah i mean. I love it and for my principles. I'm perfectly happy. As long as i've said my piece. I appreciate that. Best comedy of the nineties and i really really love. It will join us. If we're talking about outliers you're the only one who stood up for inception that is true. That is true. Here's the thing. Christopher nolan what have the most distinctive popular and influential filmmakers of the twenty first century. It's it's really hard for me. To imagine a list of top one hundred films without him somewhere on it and once once i decided debt when it comes down to you know it's going to be an exceptional dark knight most likely probably and then that was wri. I held it off the left. Is i think it's dark knight and maybe if it's not dark night it might be memento. I don't know stopped night. Because like when we i've been really following like our listener conversations about it it is like strongly the prestige number one. We're not yes. Yes stages like number one so far listeners. Memento second if you had asked me that doesn't shock. That would've really thought it was dark knight this year a class classic revisiting. The vessel has a special place to buy this. Whatever you like. I like films. I really fell in love with that. Was they lake entry. Be as a movie fan for short lake. Dark knight dark night to me. There are other superhero movies. Where i could make the case. There's a lot of other superhero movies of that caliber. We could put but which we will be doing eventually. We wanna do a superhero. We definitely will be doing more superhero movies. Inception is just exception is as nollet as it gets away. I think they don't really completely works. News site they. It's i think the best realization of visualization. That's what i was wrestling with. I think the feedback on inception really kind of swayed me. I really enjoyed inception like but also really loved the prestige. We did a whole episode of live at the draft house and talked about that I believe that no one should go on the list with an asterix as well like like that would be something that would be. That would be a battle that i would say like. Yes i think nolan does believe is on this list. I think there are moments where he can be very pretentious. I think that there's things that but there are something about his early work. And there's something about this ideas that are just as interesting to me. Is michelle gandara like. I think you can say the same thing about michelle jumping. Wes anderson like their ideas are so sometimes overtake the actual movie. But we're not penalizing them. But i think because like nolan holds himself to a more like more more suited. Both anderson's equally. You know whatever different movie your make the argument that you wanna put in on the list with an asterix because i will only agree with that if you give me one concession and i'm not even sure yet i saw what concession would you be asking for. I will be asking put raising arizona. Honor the we'll be backing you. I would i would do that. I would. One hundred percent pudding. Asterix is on here and we're saying what i said before. We're not we're not promised anything but Today so all four of us. Got this on all standby say that. We got cohen brothers. A coimbra nolan and what was the other one we just put an asterix on edison said. Yeah i mean to. Cohen brothers are my favorite directors. It really just comes down to like i have my own personal cohen brothers ranking and race. Aguirre sodas like number five. It's just i love it. I love that movie but there's just like there are enough other would put above it that it couldn't justify putting thirteen. Yeah and i. I had it on my list for this reason. I mean regardless of whether or not you know we're going to eventually cover a different cohen brothers and and use it. Raising arizona is so good that it deserves to be there with an aspirin even if it gets replaced by whatever serious right. We're not saying they get replaced by like a stephen frears movie. We're saying no. No offense to steve. I but like cullens own slot on this us. We know that the maybe standards owns a slot. We know that they own slots. That's and that's and that is the way that people said you know. Then i would make the argument. That's hilarious would have to go on the list. Because they feel like you know. Turkovsky is also one of those. No but but i do believe that the i'm fine with making that concession there. Okay so if. I am recapping correctly and i have to count on more than just my fingers. We're putting sixteen films on the list out of fifty two to close out season two of bolt by the ways. That's about fair because we did a hundred films. Got it down to forty so half one hundred fifty so You know so we. Are you know we are basically doing less than less than twenty for the average wise. We are coming in underneath our average from. So i think that that's that's fair. All right so then to recap here are sixteen films on the one second one second. I have one other thing. I would be remiss. If i did not ask and i'll phrase it exactly the same way motherfuckers. Where is alien. I i know and i thought it we can get out of this because look. I wrestled with this. Well alien aliens and the thing and i was looking at all of these movies and then i was like i now. I don't know. I don't know what i feel about this. And and it was like. Maybe maybe i wait for like this halloween. Go on this list of thing about halloween. And then you know and i was like i and then i was like the best ridley scott and movie. I don't know i still am wrestling with. I think it is the best ridley. Scott movie yeah yes saying well. And by the way amy i saw. I was watching previews for. His new movie has yet. What is this his fifteenth attempt at like a sword and sandal. Movie that no one ever goes to see the made. And i went and looked at his filmography twelve of them. You're like fourteen ninety. Two conquest of paradise like whatever all these like was the future in the past anything but the president so nuts. No i mean it really comes down to just alien or blade runner. That's the question. Well i mean you would insert or or thank you still holding true to the fact that neither of us have seen it and we will wait until the moment in which we do that as an epic love that movie and i'm very if that were to trump alien believe me i'd walk happily into the sunset but i'm just saying alien is so good it's so lean. It's so hot so perfect the app at the thing. Though i mean i was going back and i really was going back. I have to say like. I personally was having an issue with how much i like the me mrt of alien vs aliens a great movie again. This is like we're talking about little things here Oh god it's to me is like when i was watching alien. I wish i was watching aliens. And then i was watching aliens. I wished i was watching a again. And then either one of them. And that's and then. I felt like i did enjoy the thing. Probably a little bit more and have revisited. The thing i've showed people thing. I also severely. The thing is not necessarily fully respected as much as those movies are but then is is the thing also worthy of being on. That list also surprised that. No one wants to give the martian any love. Because it just i wouldn't. I would make the strong thing argument just between like the special effects also just like the classical titus of that story of the awake. The guy's a loaded room. Try to figure out who like who the killer is through. The imposter is such such an archetype. That if you'll like is like resonated pop culture alga. Speak a huge thing. Now i mean yeah. I mean look and again john carpenter. Believe is the filmmaker who gets on this list. I mean absolutely l