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GSMC Basketball Podcast Episode 225: LeBron Injury More Serious Than We Thought
Get your ears wrapped around the Golden State media concepts basketball podcast, all the scoop, you need to know from college basketball to the NBA and even March madness zoos of your rising stars topics on and off the hard work this if the Golden State media concepts basketball podcast. Hello, everybody. And welcome to the GMC basketball podcast. Brought to you by the GMC podcast. I'm your host Jeff off with me. Mark souza. We got around up the NBA to talk about the last couple of days. I guess week. We get the weekend talk about the twelve. And we also talk about the bronze injury. And if it's worth series than we originally thought, maybe he'll be out for and whilst I'm winning big L's that has to do with the NBA, but I should we LeBron's. We talk about some games. Let's start off with Hardin re breaking the record last heart has broken Kobe's thirty point streak record last night in the first half alone. He did he scored thirty six of fifty seven then. Yes. And he had a pretty great game with fifty seven points. So good on him. He's been dominating. And he's people are saying, no doubt MVP. But there are other players like Yoenis inqui- have something to say. But I guess, but we if we had to say. Who's the lead right now? It's definitely James harden. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean can't rule out the other guys. Of course, I don't know if at some point he'll hit like a wall with all this. Effort. He puts out every night. I mean, the guy is obviously. Playing hard doing whatever he can win the injuries are piling up for the rockets yet they continue to surge and they're doing pretty good now man after that really rough start there now twenty five eighteen and they were you know, for the first two months this season out of playoff contention. But they're sitting in fourth not bad. You know, you look at their numbers, especially lately, they're one of the best playing teams in the bitter seven and three in their last ten. They've improved their point differential by about three points here in the last three weeks. So man, they're they're definitely turning the right direction. Even though they've been without Chris Paul in your Gordon for the last eleven games for all seven games for Gordon going. We have no idea when Paul will return. They're both expected to be back in the next seven to ten days. They there's an update on them. So they should be back soon. But at least in the meantime. Hardin has been carrying the team carrying the team. You could say that that sound bite. Even sounds like an understatement. He scored fifty seven his team scored fifty five yesterday was outscored his entire team though. He did. He's worked. I'm sorry. You're right. He outscored his entire team. And he outscored his entire team. That is insane. Yeah. That's pretty inactivity one seventeen from the three the other night, which was very questionable on how often he was shooting the ball. He made it up for it. This time record for most MRs last last time, not just came. And he was six fifteen last night. Better the one seventeen from the three he shot thirty three times at scored fifty seven points. You'll take it. If you if you shoot thirty three times, it's not ideal. But you'll have to add the free throws. He gets to the line a lot. He does nine rebounds, two assists. I don't know if we've seen offensive explosion like this ever. I know that he broke the record. But just in general, I can take numbers out of it. Like man, he's not just hitting thirty like he's eating fifty. He's hitting forties. Like he's over. He might be hitting sixty soon. Who knows who knows his him? I can see him hitting sixty he plays the nets in the Lakers and the next two games. Maybe he will. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting interesting. Yeah. So the rockets again, I mean that's a big win the grizzlies after their hot start to the season there. Now nineteen and twenty four they seem like they are heading in the right direction or not you talked about Marcus all earlier as well. He got injured, right. He was quoted and say, I couldn't feel my shooting hand like just there was just in that some serious stuff when you there's some nerve issues if you can't feel your hand. So hopefully, he recovers soon. But that's a scary thing that think about when you lose feeling in your hand, that's either that could be a brain issue. Also that could be a serious nerve ending issue. And who knows what's going to happen? He hitting the hand or what I'm not entirely. Sure. What happened? They're not. They don't really know. Well, all I know is he was quoting to say, I can't feel my hand. Yeah. So. Chris Paul, and Eric Gordon again expected to be back Paul has that strain hamstring. We'll see we'll see. But moving on there's fee other games last night. Yes. There were all Tony Parker's homecoming game to the Spurs. Nice little tribute video to to him which way much warmer reception than he than coaxial, and okay, we'll qui- openly like said, I want out and Tony Parker was very quiet about it. And he's been there for longer than Quiroz. He did in a much nicer way. I guess you can say. You remember that whole drama with Tony Pirker and his ex wife, the affair was in an affair. Yeah. Way to bring up his dirty pass just thought about that. That was an interesting time. That was a weird thing that was going on in the NBA who is he having an affair with someone ran. I thought it was someone else's wife or something. I could be wrong. Maybe there was somebody else. But there was something around like that. But yeah, he did have an affair which people don't remember. Except for maybe his wife, great career, and he's still playing with the Hornets. He had a good game last night. Nineteen minutes played eight points, four sis- three rebels. So did you see the hug him in Popovich head at the end? It was really nice. I did not I will have to check it out. They had an ice embrace. They were just busy on social media looking at the memes of Adam gays for the Miami or the New York Jets. So I know this is the basketball podcast. But you got us look at them those so good. Yeah. So that was consumed a lot of my those those were gold home. I. The Hornets man that I mean, I get it. It was kind of a an interest different game. But the Spurs getting destroyed at home to a Hornets team kind of eye opening a little bit. You know, I know that it's an eighty two game season in these things happen, but just one of those ninety minutes cause for concern. Now, probably just one of those games. You know? Okay. I'm just curious. We know every team has those games or they look at the end of the season ago. How the heck did we lose this team? And or how did we lose by this much to this team? Okay, understandable. And I think it's one along the lines of like everyone loses it at one point to a bad team. So bound to happen. Like, you said sooner or later the Hornets are like one of the worst teams, but you know, the Spurs at home the Hornets on a long road trip just seemed like. But again taking out the away from the nothing away from the Hornets. Spurs or six and four in their last ten so they're still training in the right direction. The currently the seventh seed in the Western Conference. So hold on hold on by thread a team that is surging in the Western Conference. So we need to talk about the Utah Jazz. Yes, they're coming back in one hundred to ninety four again, you're saying they have the weakest schedule going to finish up the season. Yes. They have the easiest drink schedule. The rest of the season. They do not play too many of the top teams very often. I think they have four five top teams huge advantage. And as of right now Jeff day of worked their way back all the way to the eight c they are the seat of the playoffs. Started today. The jazz would be in after that. Terrible start. Absolutely terrible. Yes. But they come back with aggression, and they have a very good chance to make the playoffs again. And maybe make another run Ruge bear he had twenty five. He's a very good player twenty-five boards in eighteen points. Pretty good. This human shot nine times, by the way. That's it and got eighteen points with twenty five hundred free throws. That. I'm not sure. Oh, six mate free throws. Okay. I'll it makes a little more sense. Now. That's a really good style line. Yeah. I think you'd. Is a playoff team. I think they've they're obviously passed the early season struggles. They're definitely playing very good basketball. They've been one of the better teams in the Western Conference over the last month seven and three in their last ten they've won four straight. It just seems like this team has kinda steadied the ship. And there's there's teams in front of them and behind them that I think are more. I don't know shaky at this moment in time some injuries and things like that. In fairness, everyone has the shaky times. But it's a matter how you finish. The Western Conference is I mean, we talk about all the time, but you can have a bad week a good week. And it really changes your standing, you know. Oh, absolutely. But twenty four and twenty one or the Utah Jazz and in the west every the position can change on a dime. It does change on a dime. So it's one of those things where you just prepare for anything like even teams that are twelfth or eleventh place can still make the playoffs. All right. Let's talk about a team in the west that is far behind in the standings right now. The pelicans pelicans Anthony Davis is doing all he came to six points last time for eighty and they get a big win on the road against the clippers. The clippers the one of the early season darlings in the NBA. But as of right now New Orleans is twenty one and twenty three there two and a half games out of eight. I don't know if this team looks like a playoff team to you or not. But. This far enemy Davis looks like a playoff team. Anthony Davis will have to remain healthy for them have any any shot. But. I don't know if I see it. I see what you're getting at. But it's one of those things where it's like one guy. Sometimes one guy cannot carry a team and Anthony Davis has the ability to do that. But his staff his supporting cast is not so good to a point where he even he add his best. They can still lose games. Yeah. He has to bring it every night, and that's not fair for him. So James harden has the luxury of getting guys back like Chris Paul, and Eric Gordon like those guys are coming back. But like Anthony Davis doesn't really have a bag. He just has himself. She'll be Randall is on one hand beds convince your Holiday Inn, Julius Randle or basically, the only ones that really contribute. And I'm not saying that to attack on the other guys. I'm just saying, it's fact based off statistics. What about a team in turmoil? The Celtics they lose to the nets one. Oh, nine zero to our gender. Russell scored thirty four. Yeah. There is a lot of tension, especially with their star player, and Kyrie Irving, which is not good for him all things considered or not good for the franchise. Brooklyn is known seven Brooklyn fans for chaining carries leaving during this game too. So there was a lot of insults going at them. So I know we talked about last week if we could see what the play offs will look like in the east was pretty strong on Brooklyn. You said. You said it they're playing pretty good. They're six and four. Charlottesville liquid say everyone could still make the playoffs except for like one or two teams the Cavs the bulls and the Knicks end, but the rest of the hawks to. Yeah. But I would say the rest still have a great chance. Washington Detroit in Orlando or one one and a half in two and a half games respectively behind the eight seed Charlotte Hornets, but I can still see them making a run. Like, that's that's a both conferences. You can take advantage of what's up with Boston though. They're acting. It's getting interesting looks like hirees by Ari talked about the frustrations the other night. I think that a team meeting. They are now three Law Center out the door doesn't he three losses in a row? They're five and five in the last ten. And I'll tell you what you wonder who they play next. They host the Toronto Raptors on Wednesday night at the garden when if they lose this game by a lot in that series concern, it's time to it's time to be cause. For concern is what I'm saying. Boston's really good at home. They're fifteen and five on the road different story. Ten and thirteen. I'm still worrying about them. Yeah. Are you surprised the at this juncture in the season there only in fifth? A little bit. A lot of people have them straight. I had them the top three for sure. But I mean, there were probably were picked to represent the east in the finals. Right. Yeah. But now, it's like raptors in bucks. Yeah. They are definitely behind the raptors and bucks probably behind the Pacers. And the Sixers to like you can say that the raptors in bucks are the two best teams in basketball if the playoffs started today, the Celtics would be the five seat. The Sixers would be the four. So that would be the first round matchup, and I don't think they'd win. If they if they're not the home seat. I just talked. I just told you about how good they are at home, but they're not get on the road. So if they're the road team in the first round playoff matchup against good team. Like Sixers gotta be concerning. So, you know, do you put the pen it's time for the hit the panic button? I mean, they're in the east. So they're gonna make the playoffs right to worry about it. But they're closer to the aceede than they are the one. Seat. That's gotta be. That's like surprise my question. Once it hits the playoffs. Do you see this evening getting past the first round? That's at this moment in time. I say, no, I agree with you. It's a very concerning aspect. I think Brad Stevens is too. Good of a coach. If I'm being completely honest. I think they'll be okay. I don't see them winning at all this year, though. Like a lot of people have them. Maybe last year this time, they're like, oh, Celtics next year gonna be great. They were so close. Yeah. So there are so close and they didn't have carry or Hayward. Yeah. And now they have both. And there's struggling speaking Hayward. Remember how last week had a really good game. Hit a big game. Yeah. Last night twenty five minutes, three points, one of six shooting, five rebounds. One assist. That's really bad. That is extremely bad. It's like it's like one. It's like two steps forward. One step backward. One-step for back. That's what I meant. Yeah. That's it's really what it's been for him. Yeah. It's pretty disappointing throughout his. But again, he's coming off one of those brutal injuries. You'll ever see. Oh, absolutely not. Yeah. We're not saying like, oh, he's you know, he should be better. No, no, no. I'm just saying like it's hard to come back for them. It's at this point, though, is it. Is it okay? To wonder if he's ever going to be the same like is that a fair question? This is only his first season back. So let's give them. But I mean, it's been. What like fifteen months that injury? Is you need lock that Laura. And I'm just saying, but like how long d- how long are you willing to give him before you start to question if he'll ever be give another season really two full seasons. The first see that's not fair to get rid of them after one season. But I mean, like as far as we are in like, you know, health and technology and rehab and stuff like that. It kind of just feels like at some point. You're just not going to get better than what you are not saying he's at that point. But like two full seasons. Definitely at the end of next year at the end of next season is when we can determine if you'll ever be the same definitely. Yeah. That seems like too long. I don't know. I'm a little more patient than you. I guess it's not patience thing. I just I'm not a doctor. Okay. And I don't have any experience or education in medical and stuff like that. But like I feel like, you know, earlier than two full years if you're going to be able to get athleticism back from an injury. I just I feel like you do I don't know if that's true. That's fair. I don't know if that's true. I could be flat out wrong. Maybe we should invite a doctor onto the show. You know? Well, I actually I do break friends. Yeah. But what's his name or her? Well, I have a nurse friend that's part of the -mergency room and all that rehabilitate. I know what I actually have a good friend of mine families. Dr though, we'll know a family friend that works on rehabilitation surgery and all that stuff for sports injuries. Yeah. You should reach out to that. I'll talk to him Mr. Peterson will Peterson let us know how long it normally takes under a severe injury for now fleet. To come back to make a determination on if that person will have that athleticism or not very worded question. But it's a complicated question. It's not it's not I can't simply can you say any simpler than that. No. You can't. I mean, I how you were explaining to a lot longer than I thought it was going to take. So I mean, I maybe could have worded that easier. But it is a complicated question because it's like asking specifically his up lettuces, and how long will it take for his injury for him to come back. But it is something to think about I it's just depressing. Like if I was a Celtics fan, and I saw him put up three points in twenty five minutes big. But you can't say, oh, he sucks. No. No. No. No, no. I mean, some fans because fans are idiots will say that. Well, you can't let's let's not insult our no fancier idiots, the I'm an idiot too. We're all we're all fans. We're all EDS. We say stupid stuff. All the time about the teams. We like, let's be real. Okay. It's okay to self assess fair you have opinions that about you. The team that sound dumb to someone else. I have the same opinions that sound dumb to someone else. But Celtics fans who are frustrated by their season. We'll say stuff. Well, I mean, Harry does think the earth is flat. Wasn't that him? That was him. Right. I'm not it was. Oh, yeah. He he's the leader of the flatter. There's there's a lot. What is the what is the quo? Oh, so maybe around the Glenn we have members all around the world. Yes. Around the world on earth. You said is how I don't know how many times they said, but how on earth can you? How can you look at that sentence ago that makes sense? And then post it. Come on people. If you're if you're a flatter. We disagree, of course. But stick by your guns. Anyways, we take a break. We shouldn't. Yes. When we get back. We'll talk about LeBron gingery and CEO severe that is because I think it's a lot more serious than most people are letting on. But we'll get on that when we were turned. Hi, it's Jamie, progressive's number one number two employee. Leave a message at the hey, Jamie. It's me, Jamie. This is your daily pep talk. I know it's been rough going ever since people found out about your Capella group mad harmony, but you will bounce back. 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We just Hayward's injury for the Celtics and pay the civil in trouble. Who knows? But I think we also need another injury. Lebron James groin injury is a very big question. Mark on in the Lakers. Lakers organization as no one has said any word about his injuries, and he's been gone for since Christmas. And this might be torn groin who knows what's going to be going down. But fact, the matter is this injury is more serious than I think anyone thought. I mean thing it's more serious than the Lakers lead on. I wonder if they kind of knew that this was a sick more significant injury than what they reported right away. I mean, they said the MRI came back into wasn't torn. But at this point. If he is out an extended amount of time, you have to wonder if he does have a torn muscle because a strain doesn't really take four to six weeks to come back from you know. Yeah. True. If it's longer than four or five weeks you start thinking, okay. Did he tear muscle? Yeah. I think tearing is pretty serious for the groin muscle, especially, but I feel like that she needs surgery now. Yeah. You would think so. But I don't know maybe we should just bring your doctor friend on. We have two questions for your terrier groin muscle. Does it always require surgery? Mr. Peterson Dr Peterson doctor. I I think he's just a physician, but regardless I think, you know, that doctors or dentists doctors technically one are on earth or Utah dentists are doctors, I know that I have I have a friend. That's a dentist Dr O'Brien. Isn't that weird though, we at all, but like mentally perform surgery? Yes. Gum surgery that century. I I realized this is just kind of fun all surgeries are serious. Do you consider dentists doctors? Yes. Okay. You want to say to my friend, who's a doctor? Yeah. I do bring him on the show not gonna bring Dr O'Brien on the show doctors, you know, I know a few well one's dentist so it doesn't count, but you are scumbag for saying that. That's so rude kitty perform life saving surgery, another doctor. It's not fair. No, that's only a handful of doctors can do that. Or whatever your doctor in. Okay. If your doctor for a second if you're doctrine, you perform surges for muscles tendons in a knee surgery. That's not life saving surgery. But he's still call that. They could you know, like the could do it. Yeah. Because nee- in a harder to the same thing. All right. So let me ask you have to specialize in. That jury jeopardy. They need to go in for surgery. There's a doctor who performs who Dr James Andrews, for example. He does like he just forts injuries. We he's he's in trouble recently. He does sports injuries. And then you've got another guy who does dental dental surgery. So you need life same surgery, which one do you pick which one do you pick both the same thing? So you told me you'd Vic the dentist over the dude who actually goes into the human body to save your life. That's why trust the my friend. Yes. Okay. That cares about me. All right real. You can have your own opinions fine. I'm sorry. But I feel like a guy that works on knees and shoulders. A lot is a lot smarter than me. Who cares? All right. And they're making a lot more money. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be nice. Are the Lakers doomed without LeBron? Yes. Or no. Are they doomed? Can they make the playoffs without him until the hardest? Schedule going into the rest of the like fourth hardest. Yeah. They're top-five hardest. That's that's based on today. Yeah. That is a recipe for disaster. They play the bulls tonight if they lose this game. If they lose this game. Are they in deep trouble? If if they lose the bulls, they will have loss of three worst teams in the east in I understand that in that is a problem. But I do have to say when we find out the period link lebrons out, then it's time to panic. Right. Right. So if they lose tonight would this be a factor in them in a LeBron coming back? Oh, they'll try to rush the process. No question about it. So the reports that we've heard from. You know, sources close to the Lakers say that were bronze injury is might be worse than we thought. And he'll be reevaluated tomorrow tomorrow. The Lakers will actually give out more information regarding the returnable Bron James at that point. The source did mention that LeBron James is willing to sit out as long as it takes to complete. I understand why he says he's at the end of his career is thirty four why rush that in 'cause more series injury. And then be done for the rest of big done and your career before your Lakers career, even begins. Correct. So he will be reevaluated. And at that time, we should know it's going to be another week or two or for looking at mid to late February like has been rumored. I think if it's middle eight February they're done. What do you think? Like what what if their for their three and seven without LeBron? And they've lost the table go on past the all star break, then they're like, look they are three and seven without LeBron. And they've lost to the two worst teams in the NBA at home. They start a they, sir. They have a scheduled coming up where they put the rockets the warriors and the T wolves like back to back to back or not. I mean, not three days in a row, but those are the three games they have. They are currently ninth place if they're five six games back. When will Braun is healthy. Can they come back from that in the Western Conference? It's the west if it was the east, I would say maybe, but the west seems like it might be impossible. Don't you with that though? Like, the west is so competitive way more competitive than the east when it comes to the final standings that they can't they can't do that the can't afford them. So I think this might be a lost season LeBron's out for another month or so. Yeah. I can't see them doing anything with Braun. And depending on how big that whole is that they fall into that that'll determine. What they can do the rest of the season. I wonder at some point though, if the Lakers fall cliff completely if they consider shutting him down. They might try them down. What if they're six or seven games out? And he's it's the individuality and he's still like not a hundred percent. That's definitely an issue. But why would you know, if he's not hundred percent don't point? I'm sorry. You can't risk that. Well, he when will he play few wants to you know, Lakers aren't gonna tell them. No, he'll he'll till the Lakers PUM him. I'm like I'm waiting tool. The doctors say one hundred percent because I'm thirty four years old. Why push myself to a point where I will consider risking my career for this one season that might be lost ready. I am very curious to watch that bulls Lakers game tonight. I'll be honest with you because of the Lakers lose what will year thinking panic mode? If they lose gave day loo look they lost the Kevin. I trust me. I'm agreeing with you on this look at this k-, they lost the Knicks at home. Then they the Cavaliers game where they never had the lead. And they were flown out at me and walked around outside the arena like he saw gunshot. They're talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers here went into us Angeles. I don't careful Broncos. They won. And you've got guys like Lonzo ball Brandon Ingram. Those guys you put you invested a lot in those are high draft picks. Those are number two picks Kouzmin not a hydraulic still very he's playing the best at all of them. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, they have other players they signed Wayne Stevenson the Sanjiv there. The lakers. Let's land Stevenson. I get it. But they're the Lakers. Right. Oh, yeah. They're always open for scrutiny. And you can't go with you. Lonzo ball. It's called the Lakers and there's even lakes in their city. Let's just go. That's the rule. That's a bad sign right there. You have Brannon Ingram and one's a ball. In your telling me, you can't beat teams like the Knicks. And we're talking about a team that didn't have LeBron last year. They still managed to win thirty seven games or whatever it was they want a decent amount of games. They might only win thirty seven again. Let my only. Lebron's out for considerable amount of time because they're out what like twenty three twenty three. I could see them getting less than thirty win. Lebron doesn't return. Oh, yeah. No. No. No. No, no, not listen dirty. You don't think oh seven they'd have to win less than seven the rest of the you've seen them play. You're thirty. Yeah. But still like even the worst in the NBA like they usually win like eighteen games, though. The Cavs mind him when eighteen games? The Cavs are ten there at nine and are the nine nine nine. They'll win eighteen I'll say fifteen though eighteen and what is it sixty four something like that. Yikes. Let's talk about another team that has some injury problems. The rockets we talked about earlier era, Gordon should be back in a week. Chris Paul should be back in a week. But now Clint cappella out four to six weeks sounds like he has a broken thumb. He'll be out four to six, you know, he is the one guy that's been James Harden's kind of running mate this yet through this big surge that hardens had and scoring and the rockets have been playing well Capella has been a big reason for it and underrated player in my opinion. But now that he's man how long can James harden. Keep doing this with this team with his team full of injured players. No idea. I. It's it's not much like these injuries might cost rockets chance the champi Etta Western Conference finals appearance because these are all injured by the time the playoffs around. I don't think I don't think hard and can handle a seven game series on his own. There's only one there's only so much one man can do. And especially in the west. Rockets are I'm concerned about them. Because. It's not so much that I'm concerned about Chris Paul coming back. It's if it gets hurt again, he's always hurt. He is very injury prone player, and how long can hardened do this for is. He gonna hit a wall. It's hard to tell right now, obviously not right now. But there could very well be a big brick wall in the future. Are you saying maybe not even the playoffs? I mean, also billing. If it was the east, I would say, no white, but the west is a whole different story. I mean as as it right now. Houston's in fourth. But you know, there's only two games that separates them in Sacramento or them in LA, for example, two teams that are currently out of the playoffs. So I mean, I think LA's looked at more. That's that factor. And also look at the pelicans who can most will make a run up there. And you can also look at the even the Dallas Mavericks, I know their way down there, but they can still make their way up there not very far off either. Like it's anyone's ballgame. The Mavericks are currently five games behind Houston. That's how tight the west is the Mavericks are in thirteenth in the rockets are in fourth only five game difference. Wow. Okay. Definitely a factor in that. Are you worried if your rocket? A fan of the rockets, just yeah. Sure or rocket like going to the moon both. Pretty fun go that far. But if I'm a fan of the rockets, I am worried because. I'm seeing them win games. I'm seeing them play. Really good exciting every night hardens on this crazy streak, but at the same time, I am a little concerned because the injuries are piling up for them, and you can only be good for Stanton. Having the tank don't we kind of feel like in March. Maybe flabby worry hit hit a wall. I mean, God this guy he can only score like thirty or forty points only certain amount of times and the way that he does it to he's probably exhausted right now the way that he scores all these points requires a lot of energy. And that's what forty fifty minutes a game. Yeah. I mean, I think he ever just like thirty five probably still a lot. And in the playoffs. He's gonna be in there longer by us. He's going to be in their guarantee you forty forty five minutes. Oh, yeah. For sure and he will be drained by game three. If Chris Paul isn't in or air gorens out there. Yep. All right. Well, how about we take a break? And then the next segment we'll talk about Dennis Smith junior. He's on the trade bloc crazy stat about the Portland. Trailblazers? I also wanna look at the playoff picture and both sides a little bit further. And I want to talk about Portland is Portland for real. We'll talk about them. We're journ. Will your child's be ready for kindergarten at Chester broke academy? 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Welcome back to the GMC basketball podcast. We just finished talking about bronze entering how fact that will have on the Lakers as well as Chris Paul's injury. And and how long hard and can go on his own like this. But now, we're moving on to a blazer style. You want to talk about. Yes. The blazers they lost the Sacramento Kings last night Lillard had thirty five points. He did he had a good game. Very good game. But the kings were able to outlast them. I think there's only one change Portland behind most of the game. They were on a back to back. So it's tough for them. But. They are now twenty six and nineteen year for this crazy stat twenty six nineteen twenty six zero when leading after three quarters in nineteen losing after three quarters. So there's literally no reason for you as a Portland trailblazers fan to watch the game has third quarter because that's how it will end. Right. Okay. So if they're losing when they say the say that one more time, they are twenty six L. Yes. When they are winning after three quarters. So by the beginning of the fourth quarter their their head they win. Okay. But wouldn't they're behind. They lose no matter what. So. Okay. So yesterday they've probably behind him third quarter. They were buying and they lost again. So that is probably the craziest. I've heard the season in the NBA to be honest with you that is a pretty insane stab. You know, what's you know, why that's just twenty six. Anything is weird. But you know, why it's crazier and basketball. Like if that was a football stat, I wouldn't be so shocked, but you know, why it's crazy in basketball basketball's a game of back and forth. Runs like one team scores. Six. Team scores ten like one teams worth four. Then it's too, you know, and you know, how it is. And speaking of the Portland game against the kings. The number two overall pick Bagley had a double double. He's only playing very well since his injury even before he got hurt. Yeah. I'm thinking like do you think he's still worth the number two pick? I think he's showing more and more his athleticism around the around the rim is really impressive his rebounding Vilis, very impressive. Very good trap class. I say a lot of them are play Luca, especially playing I gotta disagree. Really other than Luca. I'm seeing a lot of potential Aden's. Good. Hasn't done much. And I was saying was like mainly this potential. These guys looks very very good. Yeah. I kind of feel like the rookies veterans go at it. Kevin Knox's even had a tough go. Trae young has been unimpressive. But he's been better lately. He's guy to keep an eye on tree interested hawks, and you can't really do much with that team all respect. Right. But I mean, you still I don't know like some of that's honestly kinda lip service. I think he was overrated when he was drafted probably. Yeah. I drafted to be the next step rate to be negative. But yeah, he was a low over hype for the next career, right? I mean, that's what we saw him in college. Yeah. But you can't just say that even Stephen curry wasn't Stephan Korean college yet better in the NBA. I gotta say though, many people forget that. I got to say though, you made a comment. I wanna go back to it. He plays for the hawks. Yes. The hawks are terrible. I get it. They don't really seem to have a direction. By the way, your hawks fan held terrible. Is that you fired Mike holder. He goes and coaches the bucks in his nail probably the front runner for coach of the year. Anyways, if he doesn't coach of the year, I will say that's travesty. I mean, there's other guys. I mean, if the I mean, just Mike balloon is to be in consideration one hundred percent. But especially if they beat the warriors tonight. Yeah. If these the one one-seat, I say, he gets it. Yeah. The team is. But that's a tall order anyways. Going back to what you said. Trae young place for the hawks. Yeah. Well, Luca place for the Mavericks. Good looks pretty good. Looks really good. Looks like a top ten player in the NBA. No. I know that's crazy. That's a big step. But he he plays the part. I mean, the guy every night we'll agree and say top twenty I cannot say top tiny. I would say them fits ten is a big number. I know I'm not I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying like he is looking more and more every day. Like, he's a superstar. He has all he has the most potential at anyone in the draft class. No question about it. But I just can't put them in the top ask this. Would you if you're the Mavericks, okay? Dion est. If you're the Mavericks, and the rockets offered you James harden for Luga, Don sich, would you say guess? Yeah. One one hundred you wouldn't he's nineteen. I know. But Harding right now is the best player in the NBA. I've don't disagree. Okay. How old is harden? He's in his thirties. But he's still playing he's like in his prime right now. Isn't it Surtees? He's gotta be baby twenty nine thirty one. Then between there. I'll take. He is twenty nine. Oh, then you've gotta take harden. That's his prime right there. How do you not accept that? I'm sorry is ten years younger than I don't care hard is the best right? Okay. Random example when Kobe Bryant I started deal. Can you hear me out to hear me out? Let me listening get. Okay. So if Mike nineteen Ninety-six when Kobe got dressed in the NBA, and he started. Yes. Yes. And you were offered Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant. Would you take that Kobe Bryant needed a couple years to look as good as good on such as looked? Kobe Bryant didn't have the greatest rookie season. No. It was good. He was also like wasn't like the twelfth pick. Yeah. And that makes a difference where you're picked definitely makes it fine. All right. Luca danni. All right, LeBron when he was the number one overall pick for Jordan for Kobe Bryant, I'm saying they're out in three their careers had much more. They overlapped more than Lucan Hardin. Kobe just retired two years ago three years ago, but in two thousand three the first overall pick overall James, and you were and you got offered Kobe Bryant from the Lakers to being straight. Would you make it happen? That one is tricky. And I know I know that you're saying, no, no, no. It's not the same question. It's not because they were closer in age. They were a lot closer age. Kobe bryant. Okay. Lebron James was from Akron, Ohio. And I think that makes a difference because he was like the goal. He was like the kid that was the. They knew Cleveland New, and he was such a fee numb. I wouldn't make that trade at all. I wouldn't trade for Kobe Bryant. No. Because LeBron was that good. Lebron was that good? I mean, LeBron had high school games on ESPN. He was a beast. You know? I couldn't do it. No way. Any and the fact that he's from Ohio like knock can do it. I see what you're saying. Would the Mavericks make that trade? Maybe I wouldn't do it. I see a nineteen year old kid. I'm looking at Luca as possibly the best player in the NBA three to four years is that crazy to say, not crazy. But in three to four years is hard in the best port in the NBA. No, right. He's twenty nine. He'll be thirty. No dead. No. He'll be thirty three. Not not. No, no. But probably not right. There's an opportunity he probably won't be. But I'm saying there's a chance he still guys like co why guys like kyri guys like yawn is in three or four years. They'll be in their prime. Okay. Yeah. I get that. I would say Yoenis three years would be the number one player, then I honestly wouldn't trade wouldn't trade for our. How about this? How about this because I see? I got a good one Jaanus for Luca. I would I would do that trade. But. I'm not saying that's a slam dunk though. I look man, you can say what you want about you on us being the MVP. But I would like to if I'm the Mavericks. I would like to see you on us in the playoffs this year before I make that trade because I still have I still have a big concern. And I know I probably say this more than a lot of other people. But when playoffs come I wanna see how you us reacts because defense's will make him shoot from the outside. And if he can't I think he could be in trouble. I think he could be a little bit triple. I know he does a lot of other completely on plea. Get what you're saying because the postseason and Ray was two completely different things. But the fact is if you honest performs in the postseason like he does in the regular season. I say he's tough in the NBA. No question. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure Janas could win the p like hardens degree right now. But you on us if Yanni AP all anyone who have you on us right now. It'd be number two and VP envy. If he got the MVP, I don't. I think anyone would complain. No. By thing is here though. With Luca is he's nineteen and I have less concerns about his long-term game than I do about. Yoenis Jaanus is bigger freak athletically, for sure he's biggest freak in the NBA in my opinion athletic week freak for me. I mean, honestly, though, like is there a crazier athlete in the NBA than the honest. It's close a monster. Like, the dude is he's the total pack dude is pretty much less Luger. He's the total packet. He's pretty much like if LeBron was a little taller. Very good complement and berry factual like LeBron was a little door of LeBron's better shooter from the outside for sure, but you know, they took a loan to get used to that outside shot to exactly exactly my thing. With Luca is not only is he really good right now. I mean, he's all star level right now. He's playing at that rate. Oh, yeah. But he can do at all he can handle the ball. He can shoot the ball. He could shoot a three. He can drive to the lane. No questions about his athleticism. Everybody's talking about that before the grass poster of Luca, and you're ruining kiss it every night. We'll everybody questioned him before the draft. This guy's from Europe. Europeans are not that athletic. They can't I never say. He was in didn't. But people I'm saying like what was the narrative about him? Not being the number one is that I was saying that the thing if I had a make a case for it would say the Spanish league is not as competitive as the NBA league Guinea has to his game. But the, but the euro league is better than college. No because they're like froze five year old yet. They're men they're pros. But the arguments that we heard I'm not saying you, it's not me. It's it's the arguments. Was not always Europe. He's European because those are, but those are things right. That means your sense to me. It means you're soft, right? Yeah. Vince key was European and look how good he did. Right. But that's the that's the that's what they I never agreed without like, that's the kind of being a little that's being little too little too negative about it. Yeah. And the the conversation was you know, Eytan is seventy tall plays against, you know, these young studs in college involve loss, and yeah, the question marks about Lucas game have been answered right? He's outlet enough. When that's a given he could play against the best. We've we've he can guard happen. Multiple positions is wing player. He's very valuable. I know that's crazy. But I just I if I was Mavericks, I would be all in on Luca. And I wouldn't trade him for really much at all. It would take a heck of an offer. Absolutely. He's. Team. He's nineteen. That's the kicker. If harden was twenty five I'd make that trade. Okay. Luke nineteen. That's crazy new like that age. Warm to saying he don't I don't think he's hit the peak. Oh, no, not at all. What if he's four years away from hitting his peak, and he's already this good? Like, that's insane. So he'd be like God. I don't think the Andre eight and has been a bust or disappointment. But if the sun's could do it again with a draft, Don sich knowing what they know now. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I don't think anybody and if the kings could do it over they would draft on such do I don't think that's not knocking eight her Bagley. I think it's just it is what it is. Right. Yeah. Like, if the blazers could do it over again, they would have drafted Michael Jordan, if they could do it over again, they would adrift all my God. They had chance at drafting. Oh my God. The blues had a transgender, Michael Jordan and Kevin Durant. This to see buoy, and Greg ode, you imagine the blazers would be one of the great seems of all time. It's hard to know how change history. But yes that they would have been better. They wouldn't want want to one at least one or do championships and my goodness. And they would have gotten drain in the tooth after the Brown after James after Jordan retired. Holy crap. Yes. So. Speaking of Portland. They're the one team in the Western Conference. That's currently in the playoffs that has a losing record against Western Conference the blazes fans. Listen a moment of silence for that. That is devastating. Could you imagine that's NFL team? Like they could have gotten like Joe Montana and then Tom Brady. So. The blazers. I wanted to go back to what else saying about them. They are the one team in the Western Conference in curly in the playoffs that has a losing record against the Western Conference. They just haven't played as many games in their conferences. Other teams. They're fourteen and sixteen in the conference, for example, the Lakers in the nine Spar sixteen and fourteen. Are you concerned about the blazers keeping their playoff position? They're currently the fifth seed they're four and a half games behind Denver for I. But they're two games ahead of Utah for eighth so they're closer to eight. Then one. Are they on their way up or down? Can I say neutral, you can I'll say neutral, I'll say they're not gonna go up. They're not gonna go down there to stay right where they are. So I mentioned earlier tonight warriors at nuggets that's a game. That's I think that's big game weird. Is that like glass season say, you know, the biggest game of the year is going to be next year's nuggets and warriors. Whoever wins will be in. I I got the nuggets. The joker has been villainous. The nuggets are at home. I love nickname, by the way, the joker. He's really good. He is. I think he needs to get more attention for P. It's gonna be nice though. Because. You know, it sucks. This games not on national television. How because no one thought the nuggets we're gonna be this good NBA TV is showing the bulls Lakers. And not the nuggets warriors. Are you kidding me? Or see? That that's pretty fortunately we've been California's whole get the game. Yeah. Sorry for you know, that live in Denver or California before next has on Thursday Wednesday tomorrow night raptors at Celtics jazz at clippers. Just a lot of good games on. Yeah. Some good game. Yeah. All right. So I think we're done. Yes. I think we are to thank you so much joining us everybody. Please tune in on tomorrow for swertz baseball and soccer podcast and Thursday. We'll go back to basketball as always I'm Jeff Mallon off. That's Mark Souza. Have a good day everybody. You listening to the Golden State media concepts basketball podcast, part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You can find this show and others like it at WWW dot Jesus MC podcast dot com. Download our podcast on itunes, Stitcher. Soundcloud and Google play just type in Jesus MC to find all the shows from the Golden State media concepts podcast network from movies to music, throw sports entertainment. 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She said what he wanted. He died twenty years ago. Could be could go seductive con maybe on op. Eight. Why didn't know about you you own be ready started in entertainment and comedy in when you about thirty four. That's right. So what did marketing for ten years? Yeah. Tend to degree in business monks in didn't have a proper job for ten years doing this. Did you have IBM? That was my first job was at. Yeah. In hartford. I was I did it. I did it means to very early on. My friend. Tony Brennan attorney Brennan IBM. He. He. Richard reading England. Dave, right. Dave guy. A main street to be to a win Cooper on a boat for I drive EM. So we did one of us Geico's on the boat on the river. And I I wanted if you've been there now, it's very snowy. I off with the girl that was great. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We also. VM is good. I stole someone's coat with IBM, then go to the next import it back. I didn't have much respect for the people vibe EM because I thought I was pulled. And I thought that will rich these code done if I went in a coat or whether I didn't go into coat, and then it really it was. What's good plan? Not to go in a code. You just it's mind. Yeah. Nydia? I'd come out in the snow does of left the Cote came in there or didn't have a coat, and if I didn't have a coat, and then I can steal a coke from somebody IBM go home in the snow in the cold case that person who works with them. It's not exactly eleven. And I felt guilty. I'm pretended taking by accident. I won't believe redemption story. I won't believe me. I was I wanted if you've been at that gig. And then, you know, hey, if those guys doing comedy. Doing anything doing says realized you wanna do comedy. But you doing other comedy? Well, I was now very successful composer Nitin Soni, movies and stuff like that. So we started doing stuff together college. And then we do we do we understand how geeking worked. So we would spend about month putting together a set and then do one show, and then that would be it. Then we do another one the following year. And then it was about six or seven years later. I said to him, you know, you're you're not doing anything that moment. I'm not what we get together and just come up with stuff, and it'd be fun. And he was brilliant and still is a pretty musician. So we had the musical elements. It. The secret Asians and gives you an indication how good at the comedy was. And we were doing one of these shows that the oval house in London in studio fifty or something and we got reviewed in time out. And we got this five star review. Bonnie Greer from Bonnie grant. Yeah. Playwright Bonnie, grit, and some producers from the BBC turned up and said we're thinking of doing a sketch show and this is the soda material. We're looking for would you be interested? I mean, that's insane. I mean, it's great. He's. He's. I'll put on a show and then a BBC. And then we'll be successful after. It'll never was. I read somewhere that the producers producer tossed a coin though, getting to come and see you is that true. Yes. Well, the name of the show was Papa don't preach and. We young we were. Yeah. They coined this. This really sounds shit. It was kind of. Well, it's it's you know, it's ninety minutes. So it was less than that actually is about an hour and fifteen minutes or something. So it was either we flip a coin to pop gun. Go to the show in that. We can still got the pup. So the coin turned up the right way for me. It's insane. As not being I'm sure it would have happened anyway. But it's kind of crazy. That. Yeah. It is. It is also I'm not sure if told anyone this before. This is one of those things he'll say, do you? Do you really want? So I was doing a. TIAA fancier in education stuff with company Tara, which is based in London going around schools around the country doing forty minutes. Shakespeare plays a year olds and one in north London was two of us, and we used mosques and puppets and stuff like that. And there's a lady that came up to me off to one of the shows. I used to improve in the tempest because they're eight years old, you keep that sort of attention and. A lady came up to me afterwards. And she said that was very funny improves self using was very funny. And I said, thanks, and she said do you do comedy? And I said, yeah bless you. And she said, well, you know, on your own stand up or you Paul, but you, and I said up to you. And she said, what do you call and we didn't have a name, and we do point. And I said we. Secret, asians. And she said I've not seen you on the circuit. Because I kind of kind of what's circuit. So and I said, none said way keeping a low profile. My friend is doing some music. I really wanted to what we Cates. And so that's why I'm here. And she went, oh, that's interesting. When rang Nitin and said, I it it some women today of this thing, not realizing that she was journalist, and she wrote this up in the independent. And so then there was this article with me kind of guy. We're going to relaunch next year. And then we had to do a gig until that's why we ended up doing the Geico credible. Lies just lucky. It's luck. Goodness, gracious me. How can you go to a restaurant at any point in your life without people saying that the one thing to you that they must site. You all the time. I'm what might that? Be. About having any does that ever come up? Still do you know, what's really interesting on Twitter? People one of the lines in the sketch was what is the what is the blandest thing on the menu. Gimme the blandest thing on the menu. And somebody sent me a tweet not that long ago, actually, and they were on an airline company which one, but it's one of the options. Was European cuisine in brackets Blad. They must have wreck. How do we describe this? Got to know sort sort sweetener? It's really bland planned. It's bland. And so the this was printed up on America. I mean, there was lots of great. It's gracious. Resonate with people. In a way that became flagship. I suppose set a stool if we had. You much of a stereotype. In the shop. And yet it kind of a reversal sketch and all that kind of stuff. But I mean, the four of us that road so mayor my MRs an eye, Sharon, Saddam, and Richard pins over the four main writers, and we we we stole into comedy. We'd kind of what stuff we were watching stuff at the time. And so you get influenced by everything, but it was Richard and shower that came up with the sketch mainly it's still shots because I'm gonna do all for the rest of the interview. Does this? Does it haunt you and follow you like sometimes things kind of people? No, it's it's I mean, it's twenty years since since we we did it came on TV, and we did three series and. It's really humbling actually that people still remember it with such fun this. And and the strange thing is that people now found on on YouTube clips and stuff like that. But it's I don't think it's aged badly. You know, some of it, obviously has the sketches still kind of work. And so it is humbling people still remember, and that's nice. That's great. The the Koumas came after that was how how long have to goodness Christ was good. You did a couple of goodness gracious me well on on a recording day today. It was exactly to this day seventeen years ago. Right. Two thousand one they stay and. Tell you what. But it was but I had the idea. About five years earlier and everybody turned it down. Right. And I remember somebody at one of the main channels. Who I met with? He said what is this idea? You've got. And I said, well, it's this family in the interview real guests, and his grandmother, and his parents there and just be good because you got an older person asking questions, and you go woman asking questions, which you know, young. Can't ask and everything. But yeah, yeah. Yeah. He said, you know, what would be really good? And I said, yeah. And he said if the main interviewer was a woman, a young woman, and I said, oh, okay. Well, I was thinking of playing the interview, but that's here. And he said, and the reason that the guests turn up every week is because she's got great tits. Can you believe this? And I kind of this was somebody vote in diverse. Janelle? We were in just said, right, anyway, that's your ideas with picks up my bit of eight four paper, and I left so I had that sort of four or five years, and it was based on the reality of your life with your mother and father is that it was based on a particular incident. Go friend Jeanette. Who took me my parents? And the first time I taken a go onto me. My parents always gonna nervous about it. And we walked through the door. And I said geneticists my mom my dad. Mom, dad. This is Jeanette and my dad said pleased to meet you how much does your father. Also, he said, it's only a question. She doesn't have to answer to keep your voice down. And then my mom voice of reason stepped in and said, very ignore him Ginette. It's very nice to meet you. You know, Sanjiv has always been double at times rejection. And it was the first seconds. When we started doing gracious me. I remember sitting. Room that I rented in south London that time, and and I thought I wonder if I ever meet anyone famous, and I thought what would happen if I introduced them to my parents, and I know different. And what was what was lovely was that? My parents can't see a lot the recordings. And I remember off to the. We have on. We had had an opponent Carter was on. And it'd be a green room thing off to its introduced Helena to my mom. I said hell, no. This is my real mum my mum. And Helena said, oh, it's loves me. I'm said, she said. Such a pretty face. You haven't thank you. She said why in the last film that they make you monkey face? Spillman come out by. Minnie driver any driver. It said that she's living in Los Angeles down. Just don't live in London anymore. Parents said we live quite near the apple and we have said. I ever need to stall. So they would do anyway. Yeah. That's that's a pretty cool. It drive to experience. Do the show. Many come back the real people. But it's just reminded me. There was on the first day. We did. It was Richard E Graham, Michael Parkinson might dad before the show had said can I invite someone and I said to and he said, well, just can I am by someone. It depends on who it is who you thinking of inviting. I dunno one. Yeah. Available. But I like to know who you're bringing to the show, and I said you can bring anyone except on call surrender. All right. All right because I'm into always kind just gets involved. And also he has the largest turban in history. It was like the motherships and independence day. And he said, no, no snow so go onto the show. I welcome say Hello to the audience. I first thing I noticed road three. Mothership with unconcerned the run. Denise it dangling underneath his turban. And so it became a someone who's going to boil you buy just drifted back to this huge turban and afterwards, I was dreading him approaching. I the Richard E ground Michael Parkinson, it'd be sent to my dad's just keep him in the corner here. Let his. Glossop whatever, and I was talking to Michael Parkinson. And as I'm talking to him, I say shadow. He's face. Oh, no. Mr. Parkinson by told you. I think it works though. Because I mean, obviously lots races put together, but it's just like any family. It wasn't even it was an Asian family. And there was those things in just that's just like my mom and dad as well. I think that's what I think comedy is most potent when it's. Universality? It's it's most interesting when it's a specific. But within that specificity, you kind of hit all these things that universal and interestingly enough. Kamaz shown around the world. It was everywhere around the world. It was a British comedy except here. Britain was nation comedy everywhere else. I remember review. Sign Jose sentinel. Awesome. Some paper in America that said. They said we have no idea who the guests are Ayman homes. We have no idea what is a Minoan. But they said we get we get the fact that it's a family. We get the sun is spoil and the grandmothers a loose cannon and stuff like that. So yeah, I'm pleased. I am proud of. It is interesting that that's not fun celebrity fascinating thing. But it was amazing when you know the veil falls away. Homes in America is the blood. That's why I did when I did talk talking done all over Europe. And by different people in different languages, stand up show. I did and it was a bang opening in Norway think and I went to this opening and all these people walking in these glamorous close in the kind of old guy with aspe- drills on. Do you think when you don't know who anything the? Wow. Employs. He eighteen year old girlfriend. This it seems. So you got this veneer of celebrity, which is interesting, and I guess you choosing oversee styles on choosing interesting people to talk to. You picked up on exactly what was behind my kind of idea of making in the first place coming up with which was. The moment they came through the front door and we're confronted by family. They could only be themselves was that veneer of whatever celebrity was for them was absolutely stripped away. When you've got somebody who's older saying, you wanna biscuit, you on most most says off for you. Lots of domestics we're in there. And I think it's very difficult when you involved in something, but I think it was quite disarming. I think and I definitely, but I think you certainly saw a different side to a celebrity. Yeah. I need work with mayor for a long time before he became romantic involved. Was it saying that three years? Yeah. Was it saying dressed up as grandma did it for you know, what I realized was no surprise. Fifty or sixty years. I just said around and got out there, you all. She was she was the most reluctant person the cost to do it. To have a go. When we say. See? Yes. Because she comes shoe Michigan said gonna want to just be known for playing a an old lady and stuff. And I said, well, what makes you think the show is going to be a success? But also, I knew that I couldn't think of anybody else who could improvise as well. And that was the thing that particularly mayor myself needed to be able to and we got to the stage where we knew when the other person setting up a guy so a member with Jane Seymour when she was a guest and she came on. And I said how Jane you look very nice tonight. She's thank you. And I said you'll turn. And she said, oh, you look very nice as well. And I said, yeah, pinstripes, very slimming threw out there is a new that mayor would pick up on what she came back with was, you know, those pinstripes closer together before you put the jacket. Which is kind of really. And so the difficulty for me was laughing and character being offended by. But yeah, we had worked on goodness gracious me. I'm so that is interesting when something develops over a period of time, and obviously you're not govern. Then suddenly, you realize that. Yes. That's the thing. That's like Austrailia. Home flight, and something's gotta give. Yeah. It is interesting. Because in a way, we I mean, we were colleagues I and then we have a friend. So. Eight ten years. I mean, you know, she she's with someone else. I was with someone else and. So yeah, it was a long just station favorite getting together. But also when we got together a lot of those boxes have been ticked into do. We get on. Are we interested in the same things? Do we problem solve in wipe, particularly? You're working with somebody else in comedy can be really intense, and so problem solving within is great. And I'm never married Stewart. The new. When we a couple of times. Just to get the tension out. One of the. I think it was my. Revived the Kaymaz which I missed this. I'm trying to decide on sky. No, you don't be was. It was it was very short lived. Yeah. Not entirely successful. Actually. I mean, it was with some fantastic guests, and it was great moments. But sky decided very very close to us making the program that they wanted to be an hour. Right. And that was and I wish now I'd said, no. But. At that point. I felt the pressure of we'd go people hired, and let's try an hour. But I think the reason that TV comedy works at half out as because you can suspend comic disbelief for that long. I think that an hour you need something else. You need a narrative or it becomes a. An entertainment show variety show. Well, something you had Brian blessed? I want to ask him on here. But I got to ask him my favorite question. I stay eighty one which was Brian. Is it true that you once punched a polar bear in the face? He knows. It was kind of was easy. I mean, he's no of this world. Everest without any oxygen. What he said he says he said he's things. He said tuned after a while. I know you mean. Swatting up questions the Mets. Yeah. I wanted to be supportive. No revision pointed I'm glad someone's boats. It. I'll ask them from the back about just in case you have been revising. Then we've got some new ones in the back of my book, which sense could you do without what if you had to use one sense sense. Would you lose? Blood lose the sixth one go. The other five. Mind reading. Faye? That was coming. A new. Have you ever met Prince Andrew? No. I haven't seen him. Kidding around into stuff. He does. You say this some very. Was Prince Charles's wedding. Oh my God. Yes. Yeah. May Amerigo invited to Prince Charles's wedding to Camilla not. I should've pointed out pretty impressive you've been. If I had been cleaning up afterwards. Times jerry's. We've all we've all moved them. Equal respects equal opportunity. So. Yeah. The I think the role family with us. So they sort of walked we were in the church at Saint George's chapel. Windsor and the pulse. Prince andrew. What was the up to? So he's probably all right. Probably and go. Oh, this is a question that usually gets off the women in the daily Express only off my okay? What's your secret? That's a good one. Isn't it? My beauty secret is just a just agree with you. Mrs. You know, because if you MRs it, too, they know how to hit you without the bruises. Then you walk funny. And so two void that whole thing can funny but going when you can front it's just my that's I'd had. So you become quite a series moved. I went to serious acting. I'm always suspicious of the comedians moving away from comedy usually comes comedians count. But do allow sorted fee? When you went to spam, which I wanna talk to you about as well saying that as a you don't getting off those leading man pots getting serious pilots much. So obviously that's changed since since that was about ten years ago seven years ago. Yes. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's the. No, I'm not a leading man. Anyway. Similar stature, we all similar height. We all that not dissimilar right now. That means often leading man that means that I could be. Yeah. And if you not leading man that means. Probably not. No, I'm not I'm not a leading man in that sense. I mean, I think that. Geno. I don't approach drama any differently to comedy. I think that was with unforgotten which is series. Happen doing and I'm doing. Also that question law, actually, which is you know, the comedy drama thing. And I said I approach it any differently because you're playing a character. And then had a funny shit happens. The more serious shit happens the only difference, and then when I was talking to my said, the differences comedies much more technical because comedy can come from. A punchline or it can come from a word or come from the poles. But if it comes from a polls, if the polls is to show, not funny too long. No funny. There's a sweet spot in the polls, and you don't have that drama. And so I don't so comedy requires a very specific reaction, which drama doesn't people out to wile to let that you know, that the drama. Different cut of. Yeah. Yeah. Beast so. Yeah, I do then comedy is just harder. It is harder. Yeah. Yeah. Of say that say company, which I with amazing actors to-to these. Come on. To do stand up comedy. That was just be amazing difficult, and you work, you don't Shakespeare in our rose, they do, but it sort of way, the company gets treated as a as, you know. Warn, terms and things like that. I guess treated. Yes. Always. No. I think that's ridiculous. I mean, it's with the Oscars, particularly they always pointed out there the very few comedy films. Kind of think about the great comedy films for me. It's like. Spinal tap. Yeah. Any of those things the two to three python films? I think a genius. And then I'm going gonna get any close anyway, close to it. I mean. I think bath is a slightly better than the member. A fish called Wanda won a few Michael Palin one. And I think John Cleese want something for that might one best Bill, but it is rare. It's very rare and. Yeah. I think you know, what it's not weird thing. I did you get this particular when you when you were on TV. All right. And then. Thing. People coming up to. My funny because because. They went. Yeah. I also know it is true that sometimes people's might sell funny of the new. Do we know the loss of funny people who actually it's not it's not the ability to be funny in the pump that makes you comedian that it's all the work involved except for you. You just do gig. Someone comes along. Yeah. You've got to pull the discrimination. But no, you even fought you talking about the amount you putting in the thing is true. That comedy is the same effort as is just acting about truth. So even the Q Maas is hyper real, it's not a real situation. But you've got to believe an act that situation exactly as true within that just as if you say, please forensic drama. You've got to get into that character and be true. Yeah. That's true. But I think comedy is harder. Because it is more technical people are debt, and that's great because they just got in that kind of affinity for it. And they can they can perform and present. And that's brilliant. But you tastic comedy writers, particularly great onstage. Yeah. That's another skill. But I think it's a very. I agree with you. I think it's a really underrated skill as well. But in the same way, the actors as well, I mean, wouldn't go see a concert, for instance, and see someone play at Iraq man and back in the days, the copies playing jazz come out and go do that. Do that actors people? Do they come out with cinema? And with comedians. It's it's even more. So I think it's easy to do that with our looks easy. Tell Joe can I can pull up steep it. I say. When you start working with great actors, you really say that the difference in the craft, and I think it goes because I think it's an intangible skill until someone actually gets up on stage and foams audience and tries to connect with an audience. It's just an abstract thing. You know? So yeah, I think it's a musical skill for instance, is very tangible. Yes. Doing accents leads just a tangible skill. I have you on your gift it that way. I did you have to work on them. Or did you just just I just think was so Welsh person? India nine it's the same a squash. I just colder. The seaweed, and then it's their bag scum. I love you crop up in. I was watching Notting hill the other day this love heightening, rich curse. And I think he's amazing writer, but some of the films are actually. Maybe the only ethnic purse, but but. Crop up in the restaurant. I think it was angry man restaurant number three, which is my film debut. The first one you were great. I mean, it was exciting to be on set. But I was doing a scene with Judea Robertson you grants. And I remember we read through the scene beforehand. So. And Julia robots kind of said, it's fun. I'll stand because she said, no, no here you can sit here. And I sat down a seat was still warm, and I feel has she founded on that. And then I thought can there be transference of DNA from this too? Can I can I if I if I suck in could be and can you get from phone? If you get it from breath, the call of criminals because I fi-. Yeah. The faulting bureau of investigation. Tell you doesn't do that job. Rick edwards. Woods. She nice. Steely roberts. Would you say if he wasn't ice? I would say if she was she she was. Yeah. She was very. A little bit withdrawn. She wasn't. She was replying. She's very warm and stuff. Where's Hugo was very engaging and smiley and and. Paddington to with him. He was in which he was fantastic is an awesome. So that's I mean. She only has one. What's that? That's such an awesome film because there's a comedy that kids show, Kip kids film. It might be like, oh, putting about Jadan one of the most entertaining films. I've ever seen. Yeah. Do you know, I agree. It's kind of the first one was brilliant. He was teams. Unshackled and he did some of the best. Improvising. I've ever seen in my life which called carts because I moved scenes around. He was just in the own. And it was because he started off in comedy. He was in a comedy tree. I think it was. Joins joking. So you started in comedy, and and he was brilliant in it. But yeah, he was really fun. And he was engaging and stuff and Judy was a little bit more. Julia. Like, I know. I'm going on an Asian program at the time. I thought stupid I was in one scene angry man restaurant rather than even have a bloody name, and I went onto plug it. And the first thing I said, I just want to quash the rumors about the fan. Julia Roberts more fair the room is trying to stop now. I just want to cost room. I'm trying to start about having an affair. But no, she was she was. Yeah. She's very woman. Just very strong. Wait, Phil nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Why she interested in Moscow? She's horrible horrible to all the way through. She's. But she's Julia Roberts. Say that now say that having a mattress Hugh grunts is gonna get shaft. But. Nothing really. But this is rich occurs stuff. This is kind of romantic ideal of love spring out from no way. And there's no this is on the story reality of your life. If you haven't had enough I would GD robots. Realized she is that good and then come over to bottom where I was living at the time the film school, go by them. She's just going out with anyone who just bums into fucking bug show. I might have some issues of my. But a good thing this in the restaurant saying when you say in that restaurant did any the other cost come up and say. Guy for before. I think goodness gracious me hadn't gone point. Yeah. Although I did learn something in that scene about continuity, which was we were at a Japanese restaurant. And so they put out this plate of sushi. And I thought oh fantastic. This is great. And I thought that prone expand tat I'm gonna save that for on to the end monkey tuna. I get that out the way. And of course, we shot the same. And they come back. They give you another plate. And they make sure you eat the tuna. Gordy got shot four hours. It was mangled Acuna the parole. Thing mate, you the chancellor of Sussex university. I am that Joan degree. So what? Yeah. That was bizarre. I followed load. Atom bre Johnson of ten years. They know what they contacted me and said. How would you feel about being? Yeah. Great. I said you're gonna choose me. But God one honor to be honest. And then I said. You know, I got rejected but university of what I play. It was my first choice, and they reject, and so I tell the students every three servants you never know how if you just gonna turn. I didn't get in there. And I was really disappointed. And now I Boston's I've come in. And I'm Joe. I haven't got any place up. Stop throwing things. Fuck us. I wasn't good half. Before. Why we now I would've have been very long. But it be a great say you Magid, attempting to do this protests across tie campus one small room. Documentaries. Sell out onto that Kombi one shits. We did it you everybody check in between sitting on the Lou. I'm the chancellor. Because you union. I'm telling you parents came over from India, but you did a show about going back to India because the politician, right? I'd like to documentary. It makes us out a little bit high for. We saw. To Rodney's parody. Yeah. It was a doc series. I did it was India sixty years of independence ten eleven years ago. And yeah, I kind of went around India and retrace my dad's step, so I kind of the fuck, do you think you all kind of? Crossed into Pakistan because both bone on bone moist. Now Boxton and then at politician in ninety seven they had to move as refugees, and my mom got out slightly. Eddie dad was slightly and he ended up in a refugee camp in Delhi and anymore. That thing you left with whatever you could carry. And and in a way, this is the interesting thing about politician in terms of the ripple effect of his the obviously created three new countries in the region India-Pakistan among the dash to which now nuclear weapons wasn't a great forward-planning thing. But also, those people who've been displaced let my parents, I mean, if it's over a million people that died the largest exodus in history, it's over fifteen million people had to move with only a few weeks notice as to whether Boorda was going to come down. And it's not surprising that a lot of those people displaced are the ones who then. Kind of emigrated to Britain to Canada and to America. And so my dad was my dad came to Britain nineteen kind of fairly early an early adopter, and my mom nine hundred sixty. Did they meet in the UK them? No is they India, but my dad's older brother was married to my mom's older sister. So we always my sister used to say, of course, it was the Cup price indie musical to brides fatigue. And so they kind of knew each other before. And so I sort of interested in how things are going now compared to how things were going then with my parents, very very happy. Stuck it out? Immigrants to this country and the children of immigrants because they felt like we were progressing full. What's hopefully, I mean, I'm presuming your parents, maybe countered some difficulties when they go. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's. My earliest memory is two and a half. And so I've got a fairly vivid memories from three almost. And so I kind of remember what they went through. And so them attempting to protect me from all. With the best intentions didn't work kind of clocks everything. So we have lived above alone in Hounslow Middlesex, west of London. And and I remember, my parents having pain over swastikas painted on their front door, and pack. He's out and all this kind of stuff. And in a way, the weird thing about the seventies. If you look through the seventies with the amount, particularly the racism, and sexism and everything else is. You kind of. That you got used to it, but it kinda toughened you up in a slightly different ways. So for me now when I see kind of the stuff that goes on social media particularly eights, I'm less affected by the name calling because I've lived through that. And I saw worse than that. And so in a way, it's not a defining badge for me, which I think it is for a lot people who younger did you say you say on Twitter sometimes huge offence at being called a name. And I go. Yeah. It's kind of it's a bunch of letters foam a word. I mean, I remember my mom saying to be when I was a kid. The an insult was only an insult once you've accepted as what up until that point is. And so so I grew up with that. But we have a we have the national from recruiting outside school and the only person ever recruited was sake kid. Seriously, there's Jugie because. Couldn't get anyone. We had about third about third of our school was was Asian and Jugie just misunderstood repatriation. He said, what do they mean? By repatriation, we said, well, they won't pay fee to go home, and he said Hounslow. And we live. That's the bus. Fair. So he went up to this guy and said you to send me home. Yeah. He said, okay. Also. Now, do I get do? I get it. When do I just got just reading confused? Any only person ever they recruited. You think do you think heading backwards forwards within this gets well, Richard? That is very big question. That you want to answer. That's why you also question. That's how questions work I think on broadly, we've moved forward. But I think the same thing applies to sexism ageism and everything else, which is the. I've been doing. Supposed to of not. So I will there's a doc series of the BBC doing and I'm doing one part of it. And. I was looking at activists. And so the episode undoing. Interviewing people about Martin Luther King. Helen, Keller blind and deaf. Helen keller. Emily, Pankhurst and Gandhi. And the interesting thing about talking to people who knew. Particularly Helen Keller and Martin Luther King. Both died in nineteen sixty eight was I asked the question. What would what would they think about the situation now, and we all of them with with Gandhi with with Emily Pankhurst, as well was everybody said be slightly depressed because the thing is that they made such huge strides at that point. Yeah. But if you got votes for women in nineteen thirty was when they got some women you fill in the next twenty years. Yeah. Women the vote they'll be equal. And then you kinda go now and things like equal pay and stuff like that. It's still a really really big issue. So I think that we have generally moved forward. Because also, I mean, I'm stunned at how you know, the the shift to the right that the world is made in the last few years. I just don't get it. You know, you've got someone president United States. Who's fact checked on a daily basis, and you got people going lies. Another laws today and all the ten lines and all these people kinda going. No, that's the person we're backing, and and you know, with that kind of attitude that is the danger because you gonna go he in particular. But you know, and people who love him and think he's great. Think that that behavior is fine. So his attitude towards whether it's women whether it's kind of ethnic minorities, everyone except him family, basically. He's kind of justified in someway, Nabil's a lotta people. The one thing that I think is hopeful. And where do think we've kind of moved on is that there is a strong counter voice to that. And in the seventies. You had kind of the anti fascist brigades would turn up to an F things. And I think now with online the rest of it. I think it's just as powerful. And I think that we just you know remembrance. It wasn't that long ago. And it was kind of all those people in those wars died for an ideal. And then you get you look at ideals that people chasing now, and you go. Is that just bypass g who? Poppies and swastikas. You pay. Slightness? She'll. How this is going on now. So yeah, I think we have. But I think that that counter voice. I think is really important because I think the it's the sense that get squeezed out. So you just get extremes shall to each other over your head. And so. That counts voice of kind of which is reasonable and reasoning. I think is really poor. Yeah. Well, yeah. Levy nazis. Yeah. Who those guys? Let's give them another try and see how they do this time. That's why I say, but we thing is gonna go did marketing, right? So Nazi is in the hidden, Hitler fashion. Not now the twins. Now, the one dress sense to time the home styling of that thing was really clever, you know, the Leni Riefenstahl films, and the uniforms and everything was it was kind of well thought-out, it was quite famous designer who designed the SE uniforms, bosseaux it. I'm gonna slam the he does anybody. So he wants. Yeah. And volkswagen. He invokes back. The votes. There was a little girl from you told me round Tanaka before before I met you. I was thinking she's like right now the marketing. You wanna take the NAS thing? Give us shit about all that stuff. What what close? Do you think? Nice no up back. So let's move on from that. But thank you for sharing. That is Monty python. You've worked with no most of all of the Monty python? Guys, living one. Yeah. I've met the mall. I've worked with three of. Yeah. The ones that are living here, and I'm friends with three. It's really weird, Richard. It's really old. Sorry, the name drop. Again. I apologize in advance. Not really. Say what? But something I do genuinely find. So really rooting. And and quite humbling is the when I think about my journey, and I don't if you reflect on on yours do when you have kids. Don't you? Wow. Kid now. And this is amazing. Is the I think about the post is I had on my when I was fifteen and I had the python thin. So they were their life Brian poster I had at one of JAMES BOND Roger Moore James bone. Clint Eastwood and James day in animal from the Muppets. I had laurel and hardy and Elvis Beatles with all of the since do, you know what? Through the Beatles. Yeah. And what's strange is kind of go. I'm friends with some of these people, and that's really straight. I mean, so some of the pythons and Roger Moore sprints became friends with which was which was bizarre wonderful and they've stepped off my fifteen year old war when when nothing was going for. And I thought I'm never going to do stuff all the stuff that I'm interested. I'll never end up doing the, and that's a really weird more moment. Actually, you something about Roger Moore. Yes. One of the funniest thing is really really funny, very supportive guy. And I said to Roja once I said. Tone that live in. That was the first bond film ever went cinema. They shook his head. And I said. Was nine ten years old. And that's the first film. And I said in those days you had continues programming. So when they showed the film that weight fifteen minutes, and then they'd start running the film again. And and I said so film finished. What's the beginning beginning I'm watching out that peak? Right. What you now? That's great. I said I watched the whole thing twice sat. There was the whole thing twice and he paused for two seconds. And he said you own me full-time fifty. Another woman, I written a book, and I. Him to sign his book to me. And I said, okay, if you might book, no sign it to you. And he said, yeah. And I put to her Mara Roger Moore and Hama Indy means our because when I was a kid my mom used to go the equivalent amount you on the tally whole family get together. And so I put her Mara wrote, you're more. And I said, maybe I should explain what her Mara means. And he said has together. And I said, yeah, sure, Roger he said, I'm guessing shit. I'd never you never realize you fluent in Hindi. Absolutely. But you did spend on new king author which was I was bone because as well. Great. But what an amazing. Up to end up being in the play of that film. Presumably watched as a cave. Yeah. Yeah. And loved, but then also to be king author as well. And be you shouldn't kick off that was that was I went to the Titian as my agent said. They want you to what issue for king author in spam. And they're not gonna give it to me. But I've never been to a musical audition before. So let me go along and see what happens idea. So when along. To sing a couple of songs to some of the line. So I did that. And then about a week or two later my agents that you've got the jump and. And I thought oh my God. I looked at a script properly and all those lines from holy grail that used to in the play ground. It's it's sunny, a flesh wound and singing was look on the bright side of life. Every night was was extrordinary. And then the poster was may my face on a Union Jack on a Union Jack front union beyond a union. Posta hosta never forgiven them. But I remember a lot of people said to me at the time they said. Get a kick off. And I said, well, it's actually king ought like automatic. If you needed to whole showing at three o'clock in the morning where else where you're gonna go as the agent chocolate. But I did say if people are thinking about my anthem ac- when they leave then I'm done my job, the Navon bought into the character. So that was really interesting to then just make the audience that it was a character that wasn't as good as Graham Chapman. When they go and sit. Well, I mean, it's it's sort of a bizarre choice I've actually seen. But it's it's an interesting choice for America idol to make some more money. But what she seems like today, but you know, people love that film, is brilliant film on this. So that so we watched again. So it's on Netflix. And we watched a quite a lot of money stuff on Netflix recently and loads of it stems up on the those. Yeah, Brian grow really stand. Really interesting about Brian is it would get made now. But actually, what it says about religion and politics is is absolutely. Still out and true and real. And and how do you? It's just it's it's burning thing that actually I think what you coaches does really well, which is it's it's a series of sketches linked with the narrative. With gave up on the narrative at the end of early grow. Brilliant, brilliant, sketches the witch scene is fantastic. Well written. Yes. So. Yeah. Those what the influences, anyway, what were you were influences is very similar all the things she said to the like. Well, I'd like to write my maybe. Touch younger than but I'm sure you were into the ones, and it was probably in news. But then the young ones really the the big thing makes it felt like my generation. Whereas probably was always like a thing that was there. But you couldn't talk in a way because it was there was Brian was like PG, and I wasn't allowed to say that we did in the end all the TV series wasn't wasn't repeated. So if you think I think there was one repeated some one point, but it was still late at night. And I wasn't wasn't really film that you sneaked into underage. Yeah. A low two things the wanna see Kentucky Fried movie, which I went to see a double Bill with the other Cinderella, which was very I've got the poster poll stuff find the poster of this. Double Bill Kentucky by which is so precursor to add plane, slightly sexy stuff in it. But mainly really kind of. Think enter the dragon kind of. Make pirated some great stuff. There was some slightly lately racist and Wade lease booby, go Go's boobs out being in showers, which I did not enjoy because I was a feminist. Then how is this central? The other Cinderella was this interest. Retold the soft porn film? And we I was fourteen. Me and my fourteen friends what to say, and it was an eighteen next would be then and we decided to go in the order. We thought we'd get in. So we didn't send the least likely person I said the most likely. Which is typical is if we if we'd know just left the star based on based on who we thought the oldest in the toilets. I feel fry he was the young who was the oldest the youngest. He was a real baby face. He's he's fifty two years baby face. He was quite. So he was lost my second loss on the taller ones. Where I and they each four of us mentioned too young. And we know what are we take the money? I'm broken voices. Did you did you a dress up? All make yourself look old. We knew it was a good chance. We seem once going to like an fell when asking for a half. Which obviously. Is a big mistake. Eight. But yeah, they basically wells Odiham. It's not there anymore. They let children into see films. It was it was a different time. It was. But it was very exciting. Watching the other Cinderella with my friends all sing with erections in the road. Did you do that thing looking avoiding? Gangling all our member. The my main thing I remember is like Somerset man at the back. Oh, probably fifteen euro. It was pretty the month. Schedule for everyone. To kill boys dressed up as a man. Those are saying Weber per nipples. We can still say that's my friends. We'll still her nipples per nipple that was before the loop. It was maybe we could've stayed in. But you know, it was a long old whole Kentucky Fried baby is decent enough comedy. Yeah. Rally into Senator into rely would Ness this bad things online. Now, if you wanna if you wanna match debate. Hardcore pornography, which I do not want. The whole thing about porn films, and puns still persist, isn't it? I mean, that's the whole thing of Cinderella and shaving runs privates. And all that sort of stuff. It doesn't is. There was a charming old. It was a happy time wasn't just put out for. It was just a woman another woman's breasts than we left it at that. And that was enough. In the seventies. So yeah, we did not get into. I don't know if my parents just turn to blind. I my parents quite straight. They didn't want me to go and see Brian albums. They owe pays the money by and stuff. I wasn't that at heard all the book and learn to all of my off. But they did they want you to go because of the religious overtones because NATO, but I think. Because it was a page or whatever it was. It was different is banned in some places and some places an axe and some places it was a fourteen I think I think he was banned it was banned in Norway, Sweden, then I'd like some places in England Wales towns. Yeah. Exactly. There was one. I think only lifted the ban about ten years. But I think which way round it was maybe somebody can correct me. But I think Sweden kind of did show it, and they advertise it as the as the film so funny that it was banned by. Just next tool. Ireland. Yeah. And the Vatican. We didn't as double Bill with an amazing amazing film. Yeah. It's pretty it's pretty. Everyone say saying that lost. I have. Comedy nerds? Not like you me. So now, we're we're about. So Monday loved Brian four even. We're going to have to wrap things I want to talk to you about Thomas and friends coming up is not playing playing engine. I have no idea. I've done the voice, no idea. But it's really interesting. The Thomas world is it's out there. It's going to people again tweeted me and said well done on on voicing Shonka the Indian engine. Quite offensive. That was very offensive from Pontypridd. Now is fine. Thank you. Shoot a clarified. Yeah. It's yeah. It's it's I mean, these are old Thomas the tank engine and these iast from all for the world. I mean, I know this world existed, but it does. Yeah. They this this trying to the world Thomas was happening is Thomas traveling around the world and meeting trying some other lands and finding out there. Okay. Yes. I think that Germany wasabi. Almost friends go to different countries and introduce civilization and. Take those countries over and show them how to play create they've left they live in soda Thomas. Thomas thanking just yes. Although. Saw. That's funny Reverend man, and it was the anyway, we'll we'll something else going to. I wanted to ask you about your father. Did you mother? Find your father when you in your whispering into air. I want to be businessman. He yes. My my dad adopted supplemental marketing techniques way way before they were popular here, the two things I do remember from that. I didn't remember that one because I was in the cult. Could have been call five as once I was Cuba. Anyway, it was a it was a memorable all day. But the yeah, it was it was point my mom found. My dad saying, yeah, I want to be a businessman. The other thing was about five or six or something. I remembered who said so what do you wanna be? When you grow up back to my dad said it's pronounced Dr. My dad Ben and luckily, my mum's at. They they proud of you. No. A doctor really be on your business when rarely I mean, come on. Businesses. You. Everyone's day. No Jones, let the Germans. But yet. She's given up so could be Shrek ambition and enough to make me run. Yeah. Do you know what I feel really really fortunate that given how late it was when stones and stuff. I'm really really grateful that my parents still around, you know, to say because the thing is I think for them particularly having moved emigrated here. And and it was difficult for them. The loneliness alone was difficult when they first moved aside from the fact that you can get black pepper when I was a kid. He couldn't get point pipe. It was everywhere. It's not racist thing. Second tasting. Still in caps caps place. I went the asking. I didn't see him anywhere. So I think they found it very very difficult. But one of the things I think as a parent feleipe parents. Is the ultimate you want to know that you did a good job. Unless you're Fritz. And then then the rules that apply. You know, you you wanna know that you've done a good job, bro. You kids up. Well, in the healthy, whatever it is. And I think that that was the thing. I think at thirty. I think they were thinking have we done? We've he's not doing anything and this is going nowhere. And so, yeah, that's one of the things I think I'm most grateful for the and they still about. That's fantastic. Well, it's been just such a wonderful man front testing. Do you comedy? And. As I'm sure you will. And do you serious? Gentlemen's. Andy. David. The Butkus restarting my guests and the music is by pass. And also, can I tell you that the buy one thing? Cover the guy that's spread theater go plus the strike and everyone just making my teams come true later. Meet. Dealin to show and the internet. I've been my producer Walker. 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