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A Military Distraction? Us Hands Ukraine $125 Million In Weapons
"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty report with me today. Is Daniel mcadam our co host annual to see you? How are you this morning? Dr Paul Good. We're going to revisit a little thing. That went on here for months. After months and his military to Ukraine state would have settled all that and the Russia. Gay things behind it. I'm not so sure that we're getting involved in Russia gate again but their stuff in the news about Ukraine and getting more military aid. But before we go into that I might just Mentioned that This subject might not be as interesting to some of the viewers are two general. Public viewers are always interesting but in general public. You know viruses. That's the whole thing you know. Who's telling the truth about how dangerous this is? That's a big deal and also the stock market and the combination and the challenge between A lot of Austrian economists might matter of fact if you're an Austrian. Economists said the bubbles been there for a long time the boat will burst. And now they're saying well. The virus did virus. Did it which gets some people off the hook The Fed gets the Fed. Gets OFF THE HOOK? The president may off the hook for all the spending and things going on there Nine now we have this little bit of distraction but you know when I saw the announcement that they were getting ready to send more weaponry to Ukraine. My my thought was We'll you know when things get tough at home. I think Clinton had had a few episodes where tough with mom on Mojo Lewinsky. They said they had a bawling right. I don't think hopefully trump's better than that but you keep thinking Sometimes things are beyond his control of other people will stir up trouble. Are they trying to stir up trouble for distraction and this sort of thing Maybe but I don't think the big deal. I think this is sort of the usual stuff the usual process of foreign aid. And just think of all that all that Russia gate was over a process of how you give foreign aid in within a quid pro quo. Is there an advantage to? Is it politicized like no? It's not politicize but here here. We go again and they don't talk about. What are we giving all this money away for it when we look at this and I'm sure you'll be able to help us understand is if the congress lined up to two hundred and fifty million dollar has nothing to do with the security of this country has to do with your neighbors they used to have your Washington whose military industrial complex people because the money just goes over their bank bank account and they get rid of surprise some junk. They didn't want and they get some credit so so anyway. That's still around the pro- the problem foreign aid is going to last for a long time But nobody knows what will come. And I know the the other problems are gonNA exist for awhile because Corona viruses and going to go away overnight. Maybe the truth will come out some day on how how how threatening it is and how serious it is as well as You know the financial bubble burge staying in the stock market. That is going to be tougher because people aren't conditioned to understanding the business cycle so we have a long way to go there to explain to the People. Exactly why a certain group of people in this country certain types of economists knew about it new job as the bubble was building in new it would burst and quite frankly. I don't think it had anything to do. With Corona virus. It may have been lighting the fire or something but Bubba will people should ask. Why was there a bubble and and what was was it related to or does the concern over Corona Virus. Create the bubble. No the bubble has been there and it was looking for an excuse to collapse. And I think that's GonNa be around for a while but the full explanation and understanding. Unfortunately we have a way to go before the people understand that or you know who else is looking for an excuse. It's always the masters of the universe you know. I'm sure you saw this article linked on the top of drudge report. Imf chief economist urges targeted policies to stem the economic harm of the corona viruses. They love the concentrate power. When there's a crisis like this and this Chief Economist Gita goping off says that we need to have more cash. Transfers wage subsidies central banks should be prepared to provide liquidity. Do we know. Isn't that what the feds been doing for a long time ever since nineteen thirteen in some way? Now that's a that's a mass up for sure. But this one hundred twenty five million dollars worth of a weaponry going to Ukraine and it has to do with with some radar and has also do with with vessels that travel in shallow water and it could be and very well involve Russia matter of fact it does because you Ukrainians split half of them like Russia half of them hate Russia but there's a sea of as of that is nearby there and there's been a bit of a skirmish over there but these vessels specifically would deal with the Sea of Azov because that's where the conflict with Russia occurred and I think that's related and actually we have a map that we can even bring up to to show what we're talking about. But here's the Kerch Strait and that's actually where the incident occurred in November. Two Thousand Eighteen Ukraine sent two gunboats and and a tugboat kind of a provocation. It was just a few months. After the Russians completed the bridge over the strait which connected Crimea with mainland Russia as we remember Crimea was savagely stripped from Ukraine by the evil Putin after the US coup. But but more seriously so there was this incident the the the Russians did stop the Ukrainians from going under there poorer. Shampoo was president at the time. Used the incident to impose martial law for thirty days. But what a lot of people speculated this was at the end of November they are elections in March of Twenty Nineteen Poro Shaneco was incredibly unpopular. And so the speculation that he wants to make himself look bigger than he was by imposing martial law and looking like he was gonNA take the big question is now the transfer of these mark six patrol boats over to Ukraine as part of this one hundred twenty five million dollars in free money What kind of changing the Calculus might that have? you know if there's another event. Mit Embolden Ukrainians to do another provocation. But I think we can say with conviction. That had what we're doing there. Now there's two hundred and fifty million dollars. We're committed to add to what we've already given. Ukraine has nothing to do with our national security and I see Ukraine. Become very dependent. I guess they get foreign aid from other people to that. But he's a ninety percent of their foreign aid which is probably a big hunk of their economy. comes from the United States for the United States. Who's that is that the Federal Reserve now? Eventually it's always from the people you know they take the money. And and this is why the social ser- so absurd in not understanding the S. Because no matter what is what it is for free not ever realizing that when you take it from people whether it's direct taxation or whether it's through deficit financing or purnea money is it's a challenge to the middle class and they're right when they're complaining about the middle class but they're wrong in finding out. What the explanation is so? This type of activity doesn't provide national security. It doesn't have helped the financial security of the people in it really doesn't Provide a move toward peace and prosperity. I would think if the Russians in the Ukrainians would have to sort that out and might not satisfy around the world but But that's the way they fought over that place. How how long was You know the Russians and the Ukrainians during that Crimea has been more Russian has been Ukraine has zero the history. That is the big question. How does this money this one hundred twenty five million two hundred and fifty million? How does this make us safer? How does this help us? What does it do with us? Except for the elites and let's don't forget Joe Biden standing up there saying hey I got a billion dollars here poorer Shaneco but you gotta fire that. Guy Who is investigating my son or you. Don't get this dollars. I mean you think Americans when they were watching him give away our billion dollars. Oh that's great. We're so happy we're going to be so much safer now see. I don't think we'll be able to ever know the absolute truth the motivations of trump and everybody else on this but they should understand that this type of activity passing out tax payers money and picking size is always political and one of the conditions at trump mentioned. Of course that was part of his defense. Is that the law. Says you don't send the money if there's corruption I keep thinking that trump probably if he had been more upfront. Say you know there is corruption? Aaron I'M NOT GONNA give it to him but you know he's he doesn't back down very much but on this when he backed down and they quickly sent the money because the heat was on and the impeachment process was occurring but it It's a real shame. But the the problem and the argument whether it's legitimate or political or quid. Pro Quo is secondary to this principle. We just talked about and the principle of stealing from the American people in passing out to Benefit the military industrial complex and the deep state. Where THE REAL PROBLEM? And we should again mention this. This whole thing goes back really essentially too late twenty thirteen early twenty fourteen one. The Obama Administration got the bright idea. Hey let's do a coup in Ukraine. What could go wrong? You know and but here you talk about corruption. Here's an example of corruption it would have given all the justification trump needed to withhold. The money remember back in September of Twenty nineteen the. Us sent a couple of old coast guard cutters to Ukraine In that was hailed as signed support after this provocation encourage but the plans to send those coast guard ships to Ukraine. That wasn't trump's idea that was launched in two thousand fourteen under Obama to give him these ships and this was trump again just continuing vomits policy plus a why would it take him for years to get these ships well. One of the reasons is that Ukraine had its own shipbuilding company and they didn't want free American ships because they wanted a contract to build those ships. Well it was the only ship company in Ukraine. And Guess who owned it for a Shaneco? The president himself own the only ship bill. I don't want your free. Ships built an American tradition. Exactly so you know in a big backer of this ship. Transfer by the way was a former. Us Ambassador to Ukraine. Marie Ianovich who made an appearance at the impeachment hearings? Saying trump went against the interagency from point against the interagency. Corruption is spread widely. I think on this deal Dame Bay ever reminder about the executive branch of government overall you know these things can always go back to the type of foreign policy. We have you immediately. Were able to take this and Lincoln back to to Obama just like Syria Time for to go so it's it's a linkage as a continuation of is a foreign policy that I claim has been bipartisan. For a long time because they capitulate to the deep state that have a lot of special interests and It never seemed to change demagoguing and they'll try to get a political Benefit from it and when the dust settles the same. Same Old stuff that they we've been putting up with for a long time. You know I think. In the beginning we sort of talked about the problems financially going on now and also this incident and I think we you know one of these days and I've said this many times one of these days we're just going to run out of money and maybe we've reaching that point right now. The only thing that anybody wants is a ten year treasury bill and now it's like points seven percent paying its negative interest rates and. They're so many dollars they're just finding. What do we do with You can't find a box to put man. You don't have bills. You don't buy stocks anymore. We pumped up the stock market crash. So right now it's government securities and We think the government is insecure. I mean we have deficits of what twenty two trillion dollars. And what do we do? Print more money and run up the deficit higher. Spend more money and that will solve the problem and and just not like what you pointed out. The the international bodies are doing this to all governments. I think are central. Banks work hand in glove with other central banks. But we're just more powerful and And we're able to get away with a lot longer but the dollar has remained relatively strong. Except it's been weaker than it had been for a long time. It has has weakens so that's a sign of of things breaking down and we the fireworks haven't finished yet and I hope we don't have fireworks as a distraction because once once the troops are being fired on and troops are are are killed there. There's no there's no no chance to come up with a a a logical discourse people will just say Oh. You're you're an American if you're not ready to go to war is Russia Russia. Let's go get Russians. You know that sort of thing when you talk about fireworks and makes you wonder whether there might be just some small precipitating event that leads the whole house of cards to form we before we went on air. We were both talking about Tom. Longo had a good piece on on Lou Rockwell dot com or he talked about the implications of Russia's saying no in this context. It was saying no over trying to artificially prop up the oil price house. You know with the Saudis with OPEC but also with the US and Tom makes a good point that the Russians are able to extract oil for about twenty bucks a barrel. The Americans can't do it for anywhere near that. So depressed oil going down from the seventies now to the forties and who knows what what the bottom is on that by the Russians not agreeing to artificially prop it up. This may be the precipitating event. Who knows you know? I always argued and I was always challenged by too because As much as I like technology and I think it's good that we know how to do fracking. There should be consideration for the environment. And all these things but I always believe this was excessive because there is financing you know unlimited finances at lower than market rate and people went and invested in this. And you make the port perfect point because if it's a world market which it should be that the Russians if if we could treat people decently and get along these trade I mean the Russian would sell US oil. I mean they were anxious after you know. After the Soviet system disappeared they wanted to do so That's where the oil should be coming from. And all of a sudden fracking is losing. Its shirt right now. Going down sharply and we can't compete with it and and Putin's now is looks like he's getting more economic power and authority over the oil industry anyway and they have no debt and tons and tons of gold so anyway. If we're ready to close I'll just start with my weekly reminder and we'll we'll do some announcements of speakers in the course of the week but just to get your tickets. For the Ron Paul Institute May Conference in Houston. Lots to talk about. The focus is going to be on the war on speech. But we'll touch on things like social media. What should we do about the big social media companies in bed with governments So there will be plenty of talk about plenty of guests Ron Paul Institute Dot Org Slash Conference more info and tickets barry good. Hopefully we have a good turn out like we always do it so far. Good so far it'd be a good and interesting Meeting that will have but I do want to thank all our viewers for once again Tuning in we are doing well. Our numbers are growing. We're having more subscribers than before and we always feel subtlety threatened by the individuals. Cutting US off and get I think the Internet is too big to be destroyed and we make good use of it but there will also be limitations in the as long as we're able to get this program down and get it out to we're going to do it and I think that that will last even though there might be some spots that will be rough and tumble but you know When the international politicians get involved in the Cultural Marxists involved in defining and enforcing the First Amendment? You know we can be in trouble. It's it's it can be pretty pretty horrible but I think Today on our little review of what's going over Going on in Ukraine is important because it is a distraction it represents a just another example and a typical example of how we run our foreign policy. Never helping the American people hurting the American people we pay for. We'd lose our civil liberties because we're involved in just think of what's happened. In this century it's been downhill for the Protection of Liberty. And that is the reason we have to keep talking about the First Amendment of freedom to express ourselves also foreign policy which keeps us out of trouble and mischief and emphasize more. You know Trading with people that hasn't been done so well this last several years it's Always threats and intimidation and who who knows who knows what but I think that That it's available to us and maybe out of necessity It will change and what we WANNA do is work on the change for the better not for the change to make it worse and just say hey you know. Things are terrible. What we need is a dictator. That will give everybody whatever they want. Because it's free stuff. I mean that has to be canceled out that thought. Because there's too many people buy into this so anyway. I want to really thank you for the support you have given us. We appreciate that very much and please return to liberty reports soon.
Send In The Clowns: Deconstructing The Nevada Democrat Debate
"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into the Liberty report with me. Today is Dan you make atoms are co host Daniel. Good to see you. How are you this morning? Dr Paul Good. I've sure you work real hard studied about events and all about this election going on and I just wonder if anything much is really changes. So we're going to pick your brain today about that and say a quick so well I did. I watched a good bit of it but I was anticipating. I have to see when the sex she comes up to our thing. I was waiting for the subject of foreign policy to come out but I waited to the last ten minutes and Said if the next word is not dealing with foreign policy of giving up so. I doubt if they ever mentioned anything about foreign policy but of course the whole thing was you know had nothing to do with with a debate because if if they had an important issue you know whether it's foreign policy. Monetary policy deficits financing The welfare state of state corporatism. And that never came up. The only thing I could see in this whole thing. That came up was who got to pass out the loot. It was an argument for who who gets to write the checks and You know we have a commander in chief the military But the The are in the name. I'd like to give them what they're arguing for is. Is The plunderer cheat? Because that's what they're doing. They talk they talk about trillions and trillions of dollars. Well they don't have to pay their bills back here. Everything is free and no matter what the problem is but they want to be in charge of it and of course the one question they don't ask never asked one. Is this affect anybody's rights to Pass out so much at. Who's how's it going to be paid for totally irrelevant in? You know they. They never mentioned Federal Reserve. Can you imagine that they didn't they didn't bring that up so It was the usual stuff and It was a little bit Expected One thing that crossed my mind as I was watching because there was a lot of junk going back for the song came back. A- where are the clowns they send in the cons and then the next line in the lyrics is don't bother they're here that might be pretty appropriate. It was terrible at one time. It was going back and forth. I'm pretty sure I remember this correctly. you know. Bloomberg wasn't they didn't give him time but he didn't do much with it when he got it but he was sitting there out of quiet and we're going back and forth and back and forth and he looked over. He said you know what he says. If the more people hear this and he points to him you know of of your discussion. The votes trump's going to get and I thought well you know all of a sudden he said something. Very very accurate probably. Yes that's true. And there's a really a quick debate summary Class Warfare Bloomberg has Tara because he's so rich. He's terrible accusations of sexual harassment unhinged breathless attacks on him constantly racism of stop and Frisk you know. Some of this stuff is legitimate but it was just attack after attack after attack now sort of had the feeling the other candidates were grateful because they finally have someone else that they can all hate in addition to trump. And that's what it felt like it you know. Neither of us are fans of Bloomberg. He's an absolute authoritarian. But you almost kind of felt. Sorry for him. The others were so bad. He almost look good by comparison just kind of sitting there and keeping his mouth shut. You know the The whole thing is is socialism is a big issue. And they're they're they don't accept the principle that there's a lot of definitions lot of variety and for me what they're talking about. You solve your problems. In a voluntary way in a free and our pre market or free assistant designed for freedom or is it. The authoritarian is doing this so often leads to some form of of socialism. And I happen to think that you know you can spot which way they're going and I think the socialism the authoritarian Nazem of Bloomberg is a sense of more to a fascist state. And I think what was sanders is doing. It would be more of a traditional communist date but I you know Brumberg mention that. Oh boy understand that at all. You called me a communist your com economy. In a way I don't think Bernie actually visualizes that he would like to instill Soviet communism in this country. That's beside the point. It's it what you endorsed principles in your endorsed and what direction you go. And he wants people to stop calling him. A communist socialist is okay but I would say in a way. We shouldn't call him. We should qualify. We shouldn't for Bernie Sanders actually believes in Russian communism the Soviet system. But that would i. We could agree not to do that if he would agree. And all of them you make this mistake. They blame free-market market capitalism and for everything and I highly resented. We've talked about this a lot. That the problems we have is capitalism which will turn. I don't work in a way. They're inferring too much freedom. So much free enterprise and we have to stop that so they they do exactly what they complain about their called. Communists within they also say that we have to do is stop what we have because we hate we hate capitalism and freedom and too many choices. We have to save the people from themselves. And that's why you need. A need is but if they had to answer the question how much authoritarianism how much for somebody guns do. You need to collect all this money and to a police. The world is the worst police state in the world on what they're talking about but Now they're not going to think there turns because they see themselves in many ways as godlike you know they're going to solve social problems economic problem and they're certainly not bashful solving the world's problem so it's all it's It's all authoritarianism with the use of force and it's unlimited as far as the government is concerned It's only the people that misuse guns and violence. It's never the government. The government never never makes a mistake when they're using guns and also the people who drink too big sodas ago. But you know our good friend. Robert Wins L. I think has one of the best quotes about the debate. He said this was all about candidates sparring over details of various interventionist programs. Perhaps it became most absurd when the six statists debated the so-called differences between socialism communism and capitalism. As if they knew they they pretend but I I generally try to avoid some of those terms because there are so many variations. It's interventionism I use it time But the other one is the authoritarian. You know they pretend they're not authoritarians they WANNA bring bring freedom and justice to the people but I if you look at what the Democrats were doing in this in this recent Russia. Gate squabble on the impeachment. I don't think they were much interested in justice before the law so we have a long way to go on that but I do think that. How -nology if you look at that that there's a bunch of clowns there and but I think they're dangerous clowns and this is this is something that will not solve the problems they they they do not ever ever talk about The Concept of liberty or the purpose of government that that that wouldn't even have across their mind. It would have been pretty neat if somebody would have popped up a question. What do you think the purpose of government ought to protect liberty and not run the world? Run the economy and tell people how to. Drink Coca Cola taste thing. Is that what? The purpose of government is an interesting way of measuring popular of course polls are interesting and and they can be manipulated. But there's kind of a better way in some ways which is a skin in the game which is looking at the betting market the futures market on the different candidates. We actually have something. We saw zero hedge today if we can put up that first chart kind of interesting and it shows the strength of sanders and this is a continuous rise of sanders from October. And here he shot up after the debate and Look what happened to Bloomberg? He shot way down after the debate. That's the orange the dark oranges Bloomberg and just below Bloomberg you can see Biden and Buddha judge sort of Duke it out and you see Buddha judge taking a hike Biden has had precipitous fall from late in December. So that looks about where we are. It looks like Bloomberg's bubble has burst artificial bubble. Anyway that I think the press the media and the elites blew up You know and then it's been destroyed. I think in last night's debate. You know the way they approach. Is they assume that they can fool everybody all the time but I think just a reasonably knowledgeable twelve year old. Might ask the question. How do you pay for this? You Know How do you pay for all this free stuff? And of course they never talk about that and the one thing they don't talk about it and they probably don't have a good understanding about it because they believe that they can just redistribute wealth. And everybody's GONNA be happy not realizing that with the monetary system. We have in what they WANNA DO AND HAVE WEALTH TAXES. They destroy wealth they destroy. Well not only do they want the wealth it's already been created by redistribution but they also destroy productivity people who has created a lot of wealth. Why are they going to continue to do it? They're going to quit they. You know the the tax codes when they make a sharp. You Know Sanders have you know. I don't WANNA make everybody. You know equal to twenty thousand dollars a year. We'll have a we'll have a cutoff. We would never take all their money but he gave a number. It's pretty when you're talking to a billionaire in but they never want to understand the ramifications and they in their own minds. They believe that they are creating economic justice. But I would think some If you look into the individual lifestyles of most of them I mean sanders doesn't live in a tent. You know and He's still he's still bleeding heart and And and scheming that they do the maneuvering and the lying and the fibbing. A clown is much too nice attorneys. They're they're not clowns they're able to do or because people who use government force you legal to take from one person to another their plunders. They're they're they're they're committing theft and they never get charged without They should be enforced to explain. Why is it that if I go to person a and take half what have and give it to person be who doesn't have anything and if he doesn't cooperate either shoot him or put him in prison? Yeah what kind of society is. Why should anybody go to work? You know it's it's so sad. They don't they don't look at the principal. They look at how wonderful they are because they They're compassionate people and they're doing this and it's all going to be better because look how bad look at what freedom has done to our country. Of course we've talked so often about all this this compassionate and foreign policy compassion with monetary policy compassion with death. And they've turned that around and they're gonNA blame anybody who talks about liberty and that we are guilty for the conditions we have but not too many conservatives. We'll talk our message. You know they sort of fell into the trap. Well no it's not exactly that and you know you have to do this but they will not ever admit that That these conditions were created by government. And they say well look at what. Free-market medicine has done that is so disgusting. Yes it's a massin there's monopolies and we have corporatism and yet they still say that is why we have to have one party. Payer you know and socialize at all and and everything will be fair and the cost will go down. Because they won't have to fill out. Some paperwork is so much demagoguery. Well you know this is something I mean. There's going to be people some of our friends on the progressive side. Criticize what you just said. But here's the thing that they'll never gun GonNa want to admit which is okay. These all of these accused. Candidates accused trump of being an authoritarian. He's a bad horrible guy. But everything as you as you pointed out everything they say and do is at least as authoritarian as trump. You know they are and I think you know. The progressives hopefully will will wake up to that and start understanding that you know. I remember early in the last campaign in sixteen and trump was just barely involved. They asked me what I thought I. He comes across to me as an authority and Because he's been doing these businesses and things and that That needs a strong strong message and he does you know get involved in a use it. So that's the reason why the whole group. Except for our twelve friends up there all authoritarians and they love it they love it and in some are worse than others. Some are worse on economics and some are worse on on monetary or. They're all bad on monetary policy. And some some some are bad on medical policy but but he. I didn't hear any talk about this. You know the reason. We have this mess in this mail distribution of wealth. It's the due to the monetary system. It's designed to do this and of course corporatism you bail out the rich which the liberals would say no. They shouldn't do that. You know they you know even Bernie would agree with that position. He just wants the authority in his pocket his hands and he will design it and know who who really deserves the free stuff and this whole thing about free stuff. You know the old saying that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch and there is no such thing as a free stopped program and I think that's why that's why hall you have a bunch of clowns up there because they're not talking about the problem. The country is morally bankrupt and it's financially bankrupt. Foreign policy is is bankrupt and yet they're just feeling their way and nobody wants to admit the truth. How precarious the situation is but it. It will become known soon and they'll probably Bam blame it on. A virus virus caused all the trouble right. Well you know I've had lunch and some of those communists lunch kitchens and it may be a free lunch but it doesn't taste very good honest with you but you know the fact. Is there as you started out? The show saying there was no meat in the campaign. There was no substance. Here's what Peter Van Buren you know we. He's been at our conferences. He's a friend of ours. Here's what he wrote today and I think he this. This captures it all not a word about foreign policy. China North Korea Iran. Nothing nothing about the Department of Justice. Nothing about impeachment. Few specifics about anything. Not The least of which was healthcare and then he said he all you're going to beat trump like that DEM's come get your people and I read that and I'm thinking why was there. No substance. Well I'll tell you one reason why there's no Tolsey. They wouldn't let her she'd been drawing crowds everywhere. Join crowds everywhere. Bloomberg has drawn a crowd anyway but somehow he gets in and she was out there beating the streets talking to people. She's not even allowed to participate. You know the whole thing smells rig. We have to be pleased though at Baden. And his son was brought up but lo and behold he brought it up defended his son and nobody said one word. He's an angel and Biden himself. Brought it up and it was like it was all plan. Oh if I do that. And all this. You know their their strategy. They're already talking about. How are we gonNA bring these clowns together? And they're going. They're going to have a job but I think that trump trump politically speaking will probably be able to handle them. But I don't know if he can handle every event between now and then but it's almost getting too late for a major crisis hitting and trump suffering. The consequence usually takes monster here to say. Oh yeah trump caused this to happen because everything doesn't come down in twenty four hours but it's a good. It still a possibility that exist. There's some event out there but trump's been pretty smart. I mean He. He laid the foundation for blaming the Federal Reserve He to do the wrong thing and about but in he'll blame the Federal Reserve for not doing enough of the wrong thing and so they they have their ways of of of blaming others for their problems but this is not going to go away. I think the crisis is too big. You know this Monetary debt crisis every single day. And we've talked already several times in budget and they didn't. They didn't express any problem at all with the budget. You know but a lot of free stuff if you need it and did they ever question. Well if we write off the debt of all the students are we offending those people who borrowed the money in good faith and work two jobs and paid it off. Of course where we could do is just voted back. Pay Or something. That's probably what else. Yeah I mean I I think only trump can really defeat trump. He's doing a good job because he's he looks a little unhinged with this tweeting in this and that I mean he's his own worst enemy when it comes to this but I'm going to close by changing the topic a little bit on. This is something that we've been talking about and actually now it's live and that is our conference on May twenty third in Houston put up that first graphic. Here's the first graphic please. Here's our here's our poster about the conference in. It's all about speech. Shut up cancel culture and the war on speech on the campuses in social media in government in society. The idea that if you don't like something you don't just avoid it. You try to cancel you. Try to get the person to shut up. This is we're going to talk about and here's how you can get your tickets. It's a half day conference starting at eight thirty with breakfast coffee and tea throughout the morning. We finish out one. I'll give you the afternoon to enjoy Houston and it's great dining opportunities. Just go to the Ron Paul Institute website Ron Paul Institute dot org you see that up in the upper right hand corner. Click on that picture. While the headline it'll take you to the site where you can read more of the details. The rationale behind the conference and how you can get your folks. These tickets are very very cheap. Forty five dollars and you get a nice buffet breakfast so this is this is not huge investment to go and listen to some great speakers. We're GONNA make some announcements on the speaker soon but trust me. These are people who are right out there in front on these very very important topic of the war on speech the most fundamental thing fundamental value. We have good last night's debate. I don't think ever has resolved anything yet because the real factor in competition with the whole crowd there would be would be trump but in that crowd and what they were doing and I said they are talk here today is they're talking about who gets to be the plunderer chief who gets to take from one and give to another. Who's the one to to promote the propaganda and a philosophy of authoritarianism and redistribution of wealth with guns from the government and that that is what's going on and I don't see any any easy way out. I think it's going to get much much worse. I think we'll go through this charade of at election. I've said it so many times that politics really isn't a place where you saw the problems. The problems are solved when it's the people have a prevailing attitude and they demand that They want What the results of living in a free society today? It's it's really scary. When you see that the lead plunderer in that group last night is Bernie Sanders. I mean if it's if it's true we're in a bad state of. I don't think it's bad to tell you the truth. And the one way is always looking for a positive well. I argue that. We're all of a sudden going to change the congress and they're going to do all these wise things and we're GONNA get rid of the Fed and we're going to bring our troops home but in the midst of a crisis if you have enough people thinking correctly about what the proper role of government ought to be there and there's a chance that we could you know make massive improvements you know in the monetary system principles of liberty. So there it there is a chance but right now You know we don't know which way it would go. I do remember the sixties very Very well in the tragedy of the destined destruction perpetrated against Vietnam Vietnamese American people and our American soldiers. You know it ended not because all of a sudden we had wise people in the State Department. It was finally the demonstrations here at home and people said enough is enough This war this war has to end and finally they got Congress to say they knew the message and they quit funding war. And that is what's going to have to happen but our job is to present to the best of our ability the truth. What's happening so that? When Al Paternity comes that we know what we must ask war and move and promote and work for and of course for us is very easy. It's a free society where people have responsibility and individual sovereignty is honored and everything is voluntary. If you don't hurt people you can do what you want. You can ruin your own life if if you're capable but trusting the government to take care of whether it's healthcare or education or anything else believe me. There is no reason to place trust in those bureaucrats and those clowns who want to be president. I want to thank everybody for tuning in today to liberty report. Please come back soon.
More Chaos: House Iran War Vote, Coronavirus Stimulus, Euro Travel Ban!
"Thank you for tuning in to the Liberty report with me. Today is Daniel McCallum our co host Daniel. Good to see. How are you this morning? Dr Paul Good but the world's a mess worse than ever and there's a lot of panicking going on there. Panico CORONA virus and I can understand the degree of that but sometimes I think there's a little hype in their overdone but there's also a panic in the financial markets because they were already deserving of a panic because of the mischief. That's been going on for so many years. So that's not a surprise but then we had our president speak To his last night and it didn't go over very well. Things got worse during the night and the markets are in it might be. It's not like saying trump's fall. He gave it bad speed but has a mess that he he he contributed to. And it's been around. There's no easy answer to it and you. A little hype doesn't work anymore. I think it tells us about. Did this little pamphlet not too long ago. The bound bankruptcy yeah to me. It's actually what in bankruptcy everything's goes. Hey Hey you're so his speech in work so well but one thing that caught my attention as well as many others in it is nobody can leave Europe and come to America and we already just got notice that we have relative grandchild relative type. It's stranded in Europe. And do they have a way of getting home? They have no idea along. No beat it or what they can do but can you? That's just one just one so you know even if we can avoid immediate crisis of some of these problems You know once they start interfering with travel that is a big deal and I think that contributed law but a lot of this would happen. You know you can't say and they would like to say that the markets had crashed because the virus the virus. Did I happen to believe that? I think it may be has ignited made it. Worsen the overreaction. All these things come together but believe me enough. Austrian economists in the past have predicted. You know the calamity that we were facing with the Federal Reserve policy of especially in the past ten years since the last crash which was never corrected. And we've been living with that but there was something interesting going on on the House floor yesterday and we can even get a little bit of positive out that once again other vote on raining in the president's war powers of course the president has spoken Against All these wars and how stupid war was in Iraq. But he's arguing his case in his neo con Employees are arguing the case that they don't want any restrictions but the house did get get a vote and which is about two third this year and his done his. The bill they were working on this day is is similar to the one in the Senate but they They they now will have to have to deal with this but the vote was good. The American people I think are with. They wouldn't be voting this way. The one thing is for sure. Now you can see here is on these recent votes. The war party are the Republicans. And we want to draw attention a little bit about McCall's statement on this because he has a important Position but this is This is something that is a very important issue. That's what we talk about mostly But in combination but The the The also had a vote on On solomonic and they had had a boat of removing the authority of US military power. The one that was passed in two thousand two which was one that started the Afghan war so There's there's positives thing. Their sentiments are changing. But right now I. I think we're in a in a phase where it's pretty hard to get anybody in charge even in the media totally confused on what's coming out because they don't start with basic correct principle and they're trying to deal with the massive complications and the conflicts of what has happened into a system that we have talked here and predicted that it would be a calamity with the foreign policy as well as monetary policy and right now It's not gonNA go away quickly. Yeah it is and the other thing in fact Is Today this is. This is reminds us of how things happened in the past now all of a sudden we have to corona virus stimulus. You know and the bill does happen to magically written out there and it just reminds me of Rahm Emanuel never let a good crisis go to waste because they're gonNA voting on Corona virus stimulants today. He's got a lot of language about you've got to feed the kids. Looks like looking into the money. That's in there. It looks like about a half a billion dollars for the wick program and another almost half a billion dollars for the commodities assistance program They're going to vote on today and that'll be the stimulus. Yeah but what about did we just do? An eight billion dollar one last week and he sat up. This is gonNA. This is going to solve the problem. Of course yeah. Yeah yeah absolutely so I was going to. I wanted to ask you about the the president's speech to see what you thought about because my first reaction was what. Where's the presidential authority? Come from to say hey. You can't travel from Europe to the US anymore you know. What does it derived from? Why would you ask such a question? You've been asking that question question for. They haven't been doing it for a long time. Which of course your point you know. How can they assume this? So but how did? How did we get involved in the wars? Do they come and do it in a constitutional fashion? So now there's a war against the virus and they think that Take away the liberties of the individuals make their own decisions at the same time. Spend more money and deal with it. Only with spending more money in his the sustaining of the acceptance of the dollar as a currency. There's GONNA bail out the world. It still exists because the rationale is You know into treasury bills and yet they're still not enough to go. Round and the printing hundred ninety five billion a day and putting it into the Repo Market. Just to keep things alive though. It's is in many ways. The liquidity is huge. But there's never enough liquidity in the right places feeling that this euro travel ban was not thought through very well. If it's exactly what they're doing because you know I I mean think about the repercussions of a gentleman. Know is Is IS IN A. He's a professional musician. And they rely on their tours. I mean that that's their livelihood. He says he's got some dates booked in Europe. They don't know what to think he says I got. I got kids to feed you know and it's so. Does that mean these are all canceled? Its I think. This is the result of the media. Hyping it and then once they get the people so hyped up the media reports on the people being hyped up. This is not an absolute because there are times when government sort of sort things out and maybe help people avoid risks but this whole principle is based on the fact that people don't take any risk anymore they have to have safety nets. We have to have an empire to protect against people coming here hurting us. Everything is avoiding risk. And I think that's what you're talking about is that everybody has to depend on something. And the avoid risk. It's depending on the government you know And and and they think that that is going to solve the problem. Which doesn't it usually makes it wrong when you think. How did we get into this mess? I mean how will us You know continuing to have the same foreign policy when asked what we got into. They start a war there. There are seven thousand Americans killed. In that war there is a lot of contractors killed and hundreds of thousands of other and then we go to this resolution and we have McCall who's the ranking member on the Foreign Affairs Committee House Foreign Affairs Committee? And they had this. I think significant vote. He lost Because he was His his best buddy on this angle and angle who happens to be the chairman of the committee so they are buddies and this is part of that bipartisanship tasks that but you know I also mentioned to you. I thought now if if Obama were still in charge it would just be reversed. Obama would be taken the position of the Republicans and the Republicans would be yelling and screaming. So all of that arguing back and forth is just fanfare but McCall handed unusually long statement on the floor and he had a lot of feeling and emphasis on this. How horrible it is. And and he's just you know he. He just thinks if somebody wants to put the assassination of Salamone into proper perspective that some type of an evil doer and He he He he really comes down. Hard matter of fact he doesn't even he doesn't even want to anybody to have the leisurely he or the ability to use the word. Assassination non assassination. We're killing a killer and just actually people. The majority of people are with them. The Democrats are with them. Republicans are with them and that That goes on the So it's it's a real shame on this on this authority that You can't reign in this is this is a follow up of trying to rein in presidential powers from from the Vietnam War the war powers resolution. Which is a mixed bag because it was written and now they're they're trying to but this was these resolutions that have been passed in the last six months or so have always been. You can't go to war with Iran without congressional approval. Don't you think that's been the most important thrust? Yeah absolutely? And the thing is McCall representative. Call as we know he's he's not immune fellow he's he's a decent personnel but sadly I mean he's the poster child for why we need a non-intervention scorn because if you watch the speech if you read the speech literally everything he says is wrong. Objectively provable wrong. And but this is. One is sort of a sneaky deception. That's not. He's not the only one guilty of this but he certainly repeated in his speech. He said arguing against the war powers resolution to restrict the president's ability to go to war with Iran without authorization. He said this will be the fifth time that this Congress is considering a resolution to withdraw. Us from wars. We're not fighting three on Iran and two on Yemen but this is a trick because Congress refuses to declare war. They refused to debate war. They refuse to call it a war. So when the president moves troops over and sends bombs over and sends bombs to the Saudis to bomb the Yemenis. When he does all of these things will be can't call it a war because Congress didn't call it a war so kangaroo. Congress can't call off the war because they never called it to begin with you named all the important things except I'd add one thing and that is sanctions. Yeah sanctions are not part of a war. So they say but sanctions are vicious. You can connect the sanctions even with a disaster that is being described the corona virus and one of the hot spots in the world where there's more Sickness from the virus is in Iran. They've made the point. We you know we. We can't get the medications remember. How many children died in Iraq when we were bombing and put sanctions on for ten years? Ministration admitted that probably five hundred thousand kids with our position there and now we continue with this This policy being Iran you know is not allowed and then they say well we're not at war with them and all we have to do is just re vision that map. They're totally surrounded. They're intimidated. Their funds are frozen. They can't get a you know medications for their kids. And then we're not at war with them so it's it's just a Lotta trading words you know And trying to save the people into thinking that that that Sulejmani if we describe him as the most evil man there existed and we certainly can't describe has the most Gentlemen in history but he. I see people like this. I see the Taleban like this is people who are defending their homeland. You know the the Taliban. I think there was an article this week. That gave them a lot of credit for really being able to get rid of al-Qaeda thought al-Qaeda was our enemy and so it goes on. But we've been on the wrong side and of course it all boils down to our position on foreign policy. Would what do we have these troops over there for you know? And then why do we get involved in the Facination OF SOMEBODY. That is involved in trying to sort this out and as long as we have that policy is going to continue and also he. He said that we're would do this. Because we want to start stop word but recently since the slalom example it's been a boost is more killing more. Americans are dying on this and they don't even mention whether or any contractors done but there's been two recent episodes where American soldiers have been killed in Iraq. Yeah Yeah you know. Everything that he said was wrong. Here's one of the things that McCall said. Sulejmani was the is was the mastermind of terror in the Middle East for two decades. My question is why did he was partner with him not once but several times most recently under the trump administration where you military officials were photographs next to Sola money because he was the architect of the fight against Isis in Syria so if he is the mastermind of terror. Then why is he our ally during that It also you know. Terrorists are non-state actors essentially and he was an officer in the Iranian military. But the other thing he said that's important because this is repeated over and over. He has the blood of six hundred Americans on his hands. And that's been used to justify the killing but the fact of the matter is what he's doing is is taking all. The Americans killed by roadside bombs in Iraq and blaming it on Sola money which is simply not the case and it's not possible and you know Matthew Hoe and a few others. We know who were stationed there. They said we've saw the ice. They were not imported from Iran. They were homemade. They were primitive homemade Iraqi bombs fighting what they viewed as the American invaders into their homeland. And this doesn't justify killing Americans. We don't think we don't glorify it but don't blame solar money and the people who viewed Americans as your as invaders blend the neo cons. Who lied us into war enforced our troops to be invading a country where they didn't belong in. Set him up to be killed like this. That's really the blame so this is sort of a follow up from yesterday when we said there was a war going on between trump and pay off. Some days You know Pompeii OH looks like he's GonNa be the total victor but he probably has more more people in important places like in the media and other places that is on his side and And the president but anyway that just causes frustration because the President has a position which I think is personal but it doesn't reflect his policy and that's where the real problem is i. I like the his policies when he was a he was a candidate he was he was pretty adamant and and he he became the peace candidate. No one wasn't. Hillary wasn't a piece candidate so they were very satisfied with trump on on the foreign policy. Exactly I can't let a couple more. Mcfaul McCall `ISMs pass. Because he said well so the morning was going to Tehran to plan future attacks. That was dropped by the White House and the State Department almost immediately. When it's you know he's while he was in. We had to do this because they even in Espera that Secretary of Defense I hadn't seen any intelligence that said that so not even the White House claiming this anymore trump just said well he was a bad guy killed him. So what but still mcphee. Mccoll is still doing it but the other thing that really got me. Is that one of the bill of particulars against Sola money. According to McCall is it Sulejmani is the one who convinced Russia to fight for Assad. Well yeah against to Isis and al Qaeda right. So that's a bad thing. And he said tens of thousands of innocent people are dead today victims of a war crimes because of Sola money. No they're dead because the US government and its allies came up with the boneheaded idea of arming terrorists to overthrow Assad. That's what started it. He wasn't killing people before this happened. He wasn't killing people before al Qaeda was given all the weapons to overthrow him by the US Turkey Other allies in the region. So again it's just hard. I mean everything is just so wrong with woody so it's been an endless fight for our side because they have a Political and they have a monetary need to have an enemy and Isis. The enemy and terrorism has been the fall guy. And all they have to do whether it's domestic or four now is they use that word in automatically paints them you can be domestic. Individual got closer garnered phones like terrorists terrorists and terrorism. You don't have to wait till you try it and find out if they're really a terrorist is just labeled if they're labeled and it's out there than than they have to go and get rid of them so it's it's a policy is totally out of control and when you put it together with the Inbred financial calamity that we're facing you know with our spending and our Federal Reserve Mechanisms. Then also when you have this type of foreign policy and then along comes a virus and and we've talked about that quite a bit already. Why why do people you know use that to? I mean it's a political thing that they use it for suspending. Do do they think that the more money they spend the more likely is that virus is going to go away and they don't spend how much money they spend on influenza killing thirty forty thousand Americans a year some years so people die from this but No there's I think eighteen hundred or something as serious of course it is but So there's a lot of other ways people die in this country and and They they don't serve the Benefits of those. Who would like to take over this idea of power? I think a strong motivation for what's going on whether whether we're in a foreign policy or the monetary system or dealing with a corona virus our power because they think that people are incapable of sorting out risk and You and I should have the right to take a risk and go places where we want as long as the people that we go to see and visit accept our presence you know it all back to private property and both sides agreeing to it and you weren't run by a totally monopolistic authoritarian central government. They could be one eighty. You know on how to how people can do that. You know I I know some people maybe in this room. Who Do homeschooling had to worry about that? Virus comes along. We'll we'll give them their medication but we don't have to expose them to Everything the government wants to do but they people quite quite frankly. Don't accept that or believe it because we've been conditioned because that's why we have a free country. Has We have free education yet. We have people running for the present sound. They want to really make it for and and whether it's college everything everything is for free. No risk no work just print the money and everything is going to be okay. It's the end of the line. It's it's quickly fading away and they better start talking about the kind of system that we want rather than just trying to grab a political advantage for today tomorrow and the next day they better start thinking. Well maybe there's a better way to handle infectious. Disease it maybe. A better way to handle the monetary system and of course. There's a better way to manage our foreign policy. You know when you're saying there's a lot of ways people die. I was thinking all of these people. Panicking over corona virus are driving the big carts to the store full with Soda Soda. Pop you know carts full in how many people are dying of diabetes. There's the irony there. I would just close Dr Paul. By saying you know. Represented McCall is not a bad guy necessarily but he really is the best example of why we should not intervene overseas because the people who are doing the intervening have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. That's the bottom line of why we shouldn't get involved very good. And I certainly agree with you. That separating the personalities with our policies is a job that we face and he's had a policy That's Mike Mccall and Like Daniel says he's easygoing. Matter of fact he came to one of our meetings. One Time Danny you if you remember it. I was hoping maybe he's coming with it and he's not going to do any yelling and screaming his his speech on the House floor yesterday caught our attention. Because when you read it. Sounds like yelling and screaming a bunch of idiots if you don't agree with me on a personal basis that he's not like that but unfortunately he's accepting the very policies and everything and he pretends that will happen if we don't do this and give the power to the president is absolutely what happens when we have a president executive branch of government that goes to war at will and will not accept any restraint. That one big trouble is this whole war powers resolution and restraining. The president want once it's accepted It's hard to put it back in the bag you know because the They rejected the whole notion that we don't need to constitutional restraints and that's why we have a war power resolution to counteract the illegal wars of Korean Vietnam. And and this is. This is the an attempt to correct a mistake by make by doing the same thing over and over again but anyway I'm still a believer that there's enough people especially like yesterday. The People in Congress responded to what the American people's position was on restraining the president. Yeah they weren't all honorable. Some of them did it because they just hate the president if her other reasons but they would not do this. If they didn't know that the American people are sick and tired of these wars and sick and tired of all this nonsense and I think they're going to be sick and tired of the restraints placed on them in their travels from Europe to America and When they were passing the patriot. Act A couple of days after nine eleven People were frightened and scared to death. And where You know very excited about being made safe again but guess guess who suffered the consequences of the American people the page you. That has nothing to do with making us safer. It has a lot to do with giving an excuse to the authoritarians to undermine our personal liberties and that's free. Country is all about protecting civil liberties protecting the liberty of individual protecting those who refuse to hurt other people and live with other people and a comedy even if they disagree with the way they live and what kind of a lifestyle they have and that would go a long way to make an world more peaceful and more secure in that is to take the pledge that we as a nation should never initiate aggression and quite frankly regardless of the speeches in Washington We we are most of the time. The aggressors and you say no. Salom is the aggressor. Now that is not the case. We have to go six seven thousand miles and deliver Bob One. This time around. They said well we had to retaliate. They down one of our drowns over Iran. That's why we have to go after solemn and they'll make up stores so because because around shot down a drone that we were flying over their territory therefore we have to go to war with them. Oh No we don't go to war with them we're just GONNA punish them a little bit and teach them a lesson so take get rid of their leaders. We know about that never working but I do want to sincerely. Thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report and the support we get from you and please come back soon.
GDP Crash! V-Shaped Recovery or 'Greater' Depression? Who's To Blame?
"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into the Liberty Report. With Me Today Chris Rosanna. Host Chris Welcome to the program. Morning great to be with Dr Paul Good. I thought it would be very appropriate to talk a big event that's ongoing. A lot of people talking by a lot of people have their different interpretations. We have hours and that has to do with the economy, of course. The other big issue that's going on is the corona virus and Lo and behold there's a connection there and everybody now trying to figure out who to blame they they're blaming the virus. Four. This because it's costing a lot of money and and there were a lot of very statistics since there take. For instance, the GDP want to put up a chart here about the GDP because it's so dramatic look at that last part of that chart that's straight you red line down it's a it's a record breaker and it tells you they talk about things fallen off a cliff I, that's a pretty good description for that the market and the are Connie fell off a cliff stock market's doing great. The social is Doing fantastically, certain segments are benefiting I'm sure the banks are going to be able to, and if you happen to be in the business of making vaccine, you might be able to make a lot of money and. So it's where you look because you can look and see unemployment rates are very high you know and the food lines are getting longer and there's a lot of unemployment and and a lot of spending just think of what's happened since people got attention by the about the corona virus because it was very easy to stir up emotions and say, this is the end of the world and we have to sacrifice our liberties. We have to give up all local control anybody who disagrees with the official word about how to treat the virus they are in big trouble like. Dr Simone the the woman doctor who? Leads the American doctors. Group, and she called Americans frontline doctors and she and others had this press conference. She was fantastic and she knew the issues but she didn't fit into FAUCI and Gates's scenario. So she got into big trouble. So if you define, you know their nose laws against what she said and she had free speech and you can't even introduce that notion about the first amendment. There she was. Giving the speech. But what is outrageous says she got fired and The does raise questions because she was working in a hospital which gets money from the government, but she was fired. She was fired and twitter cut her off and She had. She had the nerve to disagree with the conventional wisdom of and of course, you don't do that because. In order to create this Hysteria worldwide, and that is the big one. You see that line dropping off dropping off the cliff, the same thing happened to. Common. Sense common sense dropped off a cliff to and the whole world has joined in at the same time. They have very, very little proof of what they're talking about and you know the the dependency of tests the argument for Vac vaccines whether it's a good argument or bad argument because it's complicated medical and there definitely needs a discussion but this whole is thin idea the sent science has settled this the politicians have settled it the doctors on a lot of talk about it only the only the medical people who agree with the authorities. With the establishment who agreed with the deep state because we have to scare people and Mitch, you mentioned this briefly, but we'll get into this a little bit more. Because I've talked about it before is this whole thing of coronavirus pandemic yes. There is a serious problem out there but a series it was I think it's been made much worse in as the dust begins to settle more damage more lives lost and more long-term detriment has come from the shutdowns and that is that is the big problem but anyway, Chris you already know this that when we talk This way and try to get a little bit of a balance on this and not get hysterical about it Then they say, well, we don't care what we do care. That's why we're looking for the truth and we're GONNA keep working out and that's why today I wanNa have you help us exp explain I exactly how this GDP goes and drops off and and all that means go ahead Chris. Paul and it's it really isn't a surprise if you lock down the economy, what else could you expect while it was bad the worst since one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, seven, and it's a shame because you know at the beginning of all this, the rumpole liberal report, we're saying you know. That government is not a problem solver multiplies problems. You know we have this covert is a real problem. However, the last thing you need is for government to get involved that they dove in headfirst and look what they've done. You know they didn't fix Kobe they fixed nothing what they added forty to fifty million unemployed this week Daniel pointed out that now suicides and drug overdoses are higher than to Cova death rate and yesterday I saw zero hedge that domestic violence has more than doubled during these lockdown. So again. Problem and that it just multiplies and I also WANNA mention this because it's we're starting to see more and more is the marcus time into like a an East Germany where people are snitching one other and turning on one another for over arbiter Chari things like how far you're standing apart or where or whether or not you're putting a mask on your face. So again, the the worst words that you can hear as I'm from government and here to help and they always need the exact. That's right. There are three issues involved here in these last several months and most of the noise you hear and explanations, and the fear Marnie has to do with the virus and that's way overblown and yet we keep saying very very serious but the reaction so far has made things much worse. But there are other things that are important. A Federal Reserve is important to bubble that was forming long time before. The. Whole Story of the virus broke out. We were saying look, there's a bubble out there is way too big. It's going to burst. We're going to have a recession it's going to be a calamity. So we have the fair we have ours but we have black lives matter. So they join in because there's chaos in the streets and they are they are on a very serious mission. To create Marxism in this country and and they are if you understand how the Marxist work chaos in the streets is very beneficial. So it works together now or are they just astute in Ohio to join in and take advantage of the chaos from the virus? Could it be that the people who are orchestrating the the concerns and the history over the virus or the same people who don't arrest people who are burning down our cities? Anyway they're all three are very important all contribute and they. All contribute to a weaker economy and they all contribute to the loss of liberty but I think this is a climactic and a to a long period of time I would I was even even before our last depression in the thirties all the way back to the establishment of the Federal Reserve and I've dated a lot of things. One, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, one in all this. But I don't think that we're going to just work our way out because there's been a question you know about the. About the drop off of the GDP in that is will this be a VDI up? You know all of a sudden shoot right up again, which I'm sure the president is hoping for and others believe in it but quite frankly I think it's naive to believe all of a sudden all these problems we're talking because we're in bankruptcy, we have a bankrupt financial system. We have a bankrupted trading system we have a bankrupt moral system and this is not going to clear up the wealth of. The country is shrinking the amount of dollars flowing into the market is skyrocketing, which means the the The wealth that we have that exists is going to be further distorted and further mail distributed. But when you talk about, you know three trillion dollars so far and one in the process and maybe two or three more it does absolutely nothing other than give people shot in the arm and they can pay the rent for a month or two doesn't solve the problem but to one thing that I would. I would conclude is it's not GonNa Change, we talk about it and hope we plant some seeds, but it can't be changed. You cannot expect Washington DC's with the makeup of Washington, DC, all of us starting to act reasonably because they've never understood they've never studied Austrian economics they buy into this thing that what exists today is. Concrete evidence that freedom fails the free enterprise system failed gold standard failed all these things and they put the blame on on wrong things and so Republicans and conservatives. So often are in the position of being justifiably criticized at the same time. The Marxist know exactly what's going on and they see the chaos as a time to move in and take over, and that is what I really fear because the issue of liberty that makes the difference. But as bad as it is I still think if the people in this country who still know and understand love liberty if they. Heard I think we can pull out out of this not with Salvi. Salvaging. We have as much as having a replacement for this because what we have today cannot be patched up. It's too too. Too much work. It's not salvageable. We can't do that. But that doesn't mean that we can exist and we can't restore common sense which a lot of Americans agree to. Chris we have a major task force aisles. Wonderful what you said Paul and you know you are right that this is not this is a combination of a long time hundred years one, hundred, fifty years at least you know there's these ideas, socialist ideas and we're saying again with with great reset great reset as if you can just destroy the economy capitalism and hit a reset button and poof out will come this centrally planned utopia. It is nonsense. It has always been nonsense civilization is not built with a blueprint. It doesn't matter how many PhD's you have how much money you have whether you're billionaire trillionaire. There are an infinite number of variables involved in the economy in the marketplace with millions. And billions of individual decisions no these people they suffer from what Frederick Hayek called the pretense of knowledge. They presume to know what they do not know and cannot no, and you know how many times have we seen countries destroyed whether it be in Latin America or in Europe by socialist ideas, Hans and how many have bloomed into the Socialist Utopias zero and that's because it's impossible and it would be a shame to let something like that. Happen to the what was the land of the free. But I, still think we have a fighting chance defendants right and I question a lot. A lot of people visit with and they want to know win. And we know that. Nobody's capable of saying which is going to be your win is going to happen. Because all Austrian economists that are worth ourselves for the last flow for the last several recessions that we've had have always worn to people. There's a bubble a bubble they did this before this one and. And they? They admit the Austrian school teachers that you don't know because it has to do with the subjective reactions of billions of people who finally panic and get out so far there's a bit of that going on when you see GDP dropping off like like it has been, but you don't know the day and the date we do notice coming and we know we're getting closer but one thing that I watch I watch the price of Gold I. Imagine I haven't taken my eyes off gold since August Fifteenth Nineteen seventy-one event that I I watched with Wild is about you know divorcing the dollar from the. Gold and the whole world being put on. Fiat currency and seventy. One is a long time ago and I said, why are you worry about it? Well, it lasted. Trust a lot of wealth that we're we've consumed all that now and now, and now we're at a point where just doing the usual things spending more and printing more. Hasn't been working so well, but you know back. The other thing is is the storage. Now we're reading about dedollarization the Senate, and that's important because we have the reserve currency of the world that gives us an edge at means we can you know. We can print the paper gold and people accepted for long time as paper gold but not so much anymore, and that is what's happening. You know four years ago the the two major countries like China and Russia and others that we're using the dollar. Ninety percent of their transactions for years ago was usually paper. Or the dollar, and now it's down to fifty percents. So is dropping off rapidly and that's a strong single also reflected in the value of the dollar to the other currencies of the world, which takes a whole lot of doing because we're competing with pretty trashy current around the world. You'd get our dollars going down and the the price of gold is going up so that that is happening and it's always nice to remind people of what the reserves record. Well since they came into existence, they've been able to destroy about ninety seven percent of the value of the dollar. In the old days when a coin, if you had an ounce of gold and you lost it and somebody found it fifty or sixty years later on, you had an ounce of gold it would be still announce of goal. It might have a different value in dollar terms, but he was still some gold but no, they had the dollar they were supposed. To maintain the integrity of the dollar is ninety seven percent. Now, the most bizarre thing about what's going on in these last years has been that it's an open policy of the Federal Reserve and they've been working so hard at this to make sure that prices go up at least two percent a year. Well, tell you what the way that people are now. The prices are going up a lot faster but I haven't heard that they actually canceled out but that's always been a goal of their lives and I always thought some day they're gonNA, they're gonNA be talking about, why is it ten percent instead of two percent? We want to just two percent, which is a ridiculous policy, and that again will work its way out because that's set you know imperfectly, it involves objectivity of the value and the amount of paper money and how much debt we have but also. It has to do with how much trust there is, but there is less trust now than ever in the whole system because it's built on all this debt and when you just listened to the news, it isn't a couple billion or a hundred billion if they're talking about trillions and trillions of dollars so they say well would stock market's still doing. Okay I. Have I have a little bit of money in there and they say it's okay. But the big bucks are in the hands of the establishment and. Even, they will suffer to some degree there'll there'll be some who always know what's coming because they're in the planning business, but there's GonNa be a lot of people who think they're say because it is going to be very, very bad for us in this country. So my my prediction is going to get worse before it gets better, but it's worthwhile to work for that time when it's going to get better. So we can. Participate that's exactly what the Marxists doing. They're waiting for this whole clarity because they have something in store for us, and that is what we ought to pay attention to and right now we're not getting a whole lot of support out of Washington DC and believe me I have a little experience there. Don't don't expect any. You have to expect it from people who are in the business of ideas and the people who are talking about free market economics in reality not this capitalist that we have today you know. Assisi what capitalism does to it the Marxists will say, and then too many Conservatives and Republicans will defend as a Oh. No, it's okay. We we only wanted We only wanted two trillion dollars. We didn't went three trillion dollars a matter of fact on the three choices both Republicans and Democrats. Now, they're arguing over the next part, but that's not enough of a distinction to make a different. There's a solid support in Washington as bipartisan to support the ideas of interventionism and authoritarianism in inevitably as though she just Dwindle in in their efficiency. They always gravitate authoritarianism and less the ideas and the principles of independence and individualism and self reliance or restored to a community emphasizing personal liberty. As Dr Paul, I'll finish up by stressing a word that you you stress there, and that's trust and there are a lot of people that have lost trust. But you know it's always been a mystery to me that no matter how many how many times politicians the media lie to people they still go back to the it's almost as if they want moralize. And that has to stop gotTA trust the in yourself and your liberty let politicians talk all they want. But once they start coming for, you have to do this you can't through this. That's where you have to draw the line and it always starts out really innocent. We could use this covert as an example just give us fifteen days. Let's flat in the CARVER will get you out of here. Well, we're August first tomorrow that the fifteen days was a long time ago it always starts innocently they. Put. On the mask and yesterday we hear doctor foul chief saying that you know maybe we should wear the mask I flew to. So this is how power works. Their interests are not the same as yours. Your interest is deliver your life to carry your family feed yourself and your family. Their interest is to rule over you. You are a means to their ends and as an individual human being you're not meant to be a means to anybody else's at. So we gotTA stop trusting. Them Stop Trusting people that continuously Lybia and trust yourself and your individual liberty. That is very good because I've argued to that. That's what happens people say. You know you can't trust the people. So therefore, we want to take these people. We don't trust send him the Washington, and then we're supposed to trust them. Right now, we found that we find out that we shouldn't be trusting them and you know I don't think anybody can argue now in this country even those who might try to justify that is there's been a crash in our economy the worst dip in. GP In in our history, there's there's been a crash and there's more hunger and more problems and more unemployment. So we have have the problem. There is this argument of shaped recovery and yes, they will recover and things will get better. It'll be short-lived that happened one time in nineteen twenty one but they took a different position and just said. Tan's off we're not spending billions and billions of dollars and lo and behold the liquidation of data occurred. You know and and they went back to work again and they got the had a clean slate but that's not going to happen either but what what does exist is the question how much worse will get? The depression get a lot worse beating or are we gonNA wake up when my my bet is it's going to get worse I hate that because I think it's so unnecessary and it's GonNa hurt the innocent people the most who trust it and you can't say, well, they were stupid because this this thing has lasted for one hundred year to put trust in the government appreciate from cradle to grave about it. So there's a lot of trust there about the the thing. That will be decided here in the next several weeks or months. We'll be who's to blame of course If you ask anybody on the left, the Democrats, what's trumps fault how two percent of it we hate his guts on they never say that and we're envious him because he wanted his election and it's on and on it's it's just that is what modems. So it's very easy for them to they blame him for the virus they blame for the Federal Reserve and he he's contributed to it. He didn't changing things he participated in the he said some good things about the the. Military Industrial. Complex and our presidents around the world but he's made some reasonable changes but still no matter what no matter. If he does exactly what the Democrats have been trying to who twenty years, he's still going to get blamed and hated for it. So who to blame is a big deal and can't be done politically politically. Yeah, if you, if you haven't noticed politics is made up of a lot of demagogues and that's a polite word or saying they're cotton picking liars and you can't trust them. So blame has to go and I don't even look for the Party or the individual and pick a name but I see they're all victims, victims of bad education in victims of this deceitful way of doing and and victims of having this. Desire to have more power and wealth over. So it's an ideological thing and this started especially. During the nineteen thirties because. In one thousand nine hundred is even said free enterprise and the gold standard. The worst thing we ever did, and of course, that was the first depression we had that lasted for fifteen year and it never ended until after World War Two. So yes, they they did blame. You know the free enterprise system and the gold standard. Well, they're still doing that except right now people individuals are. Concerned about this, even in China and Russia and this this is not a reason to make them a bad person but they're taking their buying gold and they don't think it's a good idea to trust the dollar. Well, maybe there's a good message maybe it's a positive message disregarding. That you might have but it's deciding what is the problem and one thing is, is the type of system we have today is not in free markets and it is they use the word capitalism, but it's crony capitalism and I think Libertarians and conservatives a lousy job at distinguishing that from. Interventionism which has gotten out of control, and when you see the expenditures and the foreign policy and the Federal Reserve and all this, there's not enough difference to say which side is going to be like you have to blame him look ideology you have to decide I is the purpose of government is the purpose of government to do everything for everybody. From cradle to grade, which is impossible or is the government there to have very small jobs a small job it be doable and would know bureaucracy. All you have to have is the goal and the purpose of government is to protect our freedoms protect our liberties, make sure that we can speak out and we can have a debate debate on medical problems or a monetary policy but. This whole thing is you can't even really discuss medical treatment for Corona, Var so we've we've lost much. We have to emphasize the fact that the government shouldn't be there the reason I keep arguing the case the one of the biggest mistakes the last hundred years has been allowing the medical profession to be engulfed by the government and the bureaucrats. So the epitome of all that is Easy Epitome of all that and and the people by by into him as being the expert just think of the grief that trump God finally when he realized what he had didn't have anything to do with them. But until until the people decide, they don't WanNA listen to the FAO cheese of the world and the bill gazes the world when the when the vaccines come nothing's going to change. So to me, it's philosophically. So everybody should contribute to it to self education to educating family friends and neighbors and being in groups of. People that know and understand and want to learn more about it that to me is the answer that's why I keep coming over hope and I visit with a few people with our report here today to encourage them because so many people are involved, and when I get a little bit discouraged, all of a sudden I'll find out whether there's doesn't hear people here they have their different organizations. So there's a lot of people out there that agree with us and I think that's good. That's why it encourages me to continue to do this. I WANNA. Thank you very much for being viewers and coming to the Liberty Report for information and please come back soon.
Chaos abounds! Coronavirus; Assange; Financial Markets; Sanders Under Attack
"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into the Liberty report today. We're doing the report just by audio due to shortage of personnel in our studio Will certainly be back full bloom by tomorrow in the studio but anyway there's lots to talk about today and we have our usual co host with his Daniel McAdams Daniel are you there. Yes I am Dr Paul Good Morning. Good Morning No. We certainly have a lot of things to talk about They're all pretty important. You know what I'd like to start off with something Of all the items that we think are important one. That doesn't seem to be getting the attention it deserves and that has to do with the ruthless treatment of Julian assange We've talked about him for a long time did the TSP the report for the week on Assange but Our our president has not been consistent on this issue. But there's a major event going on. He's been in prison for a long time but then he was taken out of prison by the British police. And now they're gonNA have hearing. Which is the it may be going on as we speak and they're going to be talking about How are they going to get? Get the I get a song back to the United States back to United States to the United States. He's not even American citizens but they WANNA come back and put put them in prison for one hundred and seventy five years for breaking the American Law Sure Daniel you've been thinking a bit about the. The extradition hearing opens today. So they're theoretically actually speak the hearing started. You know the. Us has appealed to the UK government. Which is what we know is very independent Over here in this the craziest thing is they want to try him. As you know Dr Paul under the Espionage Act. This'll be the first time that they've used the espionage act against a publisher a journalist. You know they WANNA call him a spy because he publishes things that were embarrassing to the US government. So really this. That's all of us in all. Americans should be concerned but as you point out it's kind of a home in the media right and you know Daniel If we had to rate the several things that we wanted to talk about today and they are in the news and they are significant. I you know and we're starting off with this. I think that's partially because at least I'm of the opinion that this might be the most important events that we're talking on. Oh we're GONNA talk about Corona viruses and the in the financial markets. And things like that but this treatment is something else and of course in doing this we have to deal with the fact that At one time the president was on our side and we encourage them tremendously because You know he was pointing out what they were doing during the campaign but Since that time he changed his tune. It just changed being more neutral. Oil might not been quite bad but he's he could get rid of this in a minute. No you know he's made a statement that This is none of his concern. Well maybe that would be a reasonable positions. No concern shouldn't be a major concern for United States. Interfering on the free speech for somebody from Australia so that to me is a shame that they don't think of that as a solution and you really captured in your call this week because on the one hand they say well he committed treason against the United States. And as you say he's not even an American. He's Australian. So how could he betray his country but then he says so. Yeah you're subject to American laws when it comes to being a traitor but you're not subject to American laws when it comes to freedom of the press you know all of a sudden that doesn't count because you're not an American and that wasn't the intended of famous when they made the The amendments wasn't it and I think this qualifies as being quite arbitrary on the enforcement of law. It's horrible But right now I think there's a greater sentiment building. A few people got out on the streets in London. You know in sympathy her songs so the information hopefully public pressure is still worthwhile. In spite of the fact that the deep state that runs everything but precursor is very important. So we'll be watching that pretty darn closely today. See what happens and see how what's reaction. I can't imagine making the final determination that they called the hearing. But you never tale You can't base your judgement on just logic because we'd lose out to Austin on that and they say that if he does get extradited he will be put in a prison cell. That's about one hundred times worse than the one he's in right. Now it'll be total isolation Which is you know psychological torture You know never see Sunlight. Total isolation You know it's just horrible. And they say that our official position is that we don't torture prisoners and you know it was then people would say no we don't torture you know people We only torture jihadist. You know the people who are terrorists so he Input into that category. And what are they going to get out of them? You know that that to me is is so tragic but you already alluded to it. Basic principles of what the country was founded on the emphasis on freedom of speech making it. The freedom of speech could be the ability to speak out against one's government and in this case if the foreign journalists pointing out some shortcomings that were they never been charged with lying. That he's giving false information. That isn't the point. And you know your state opening statement there. There's a crater hearing the truth which is which is tragic But once again. Don't you think this fits the category of too much bipartisanship in in Washington? Really looks like the deep state might unify the two parties at times. You too much bipartisanship. Newell Chelsea Manning just spent another birthday behind bars because he refuses to testify against Julian assange talk about a miscarriage of justice. Boy That's for sure you know the another item that's high on the news every single day Which we've talked about and I have spoken with the position. The cautiously advising people go go slowly and remember the outy but I do no harm and yet I am not quite as as I guess concerned about about the virus right now the way. I understand it. There's thirteen cases in the United States in desk. And and the other thing concerns me about the whole thing because it's having an effect on the markets right now. My my concern is the comparison. You know We've had Kansas Thousand Americans die from the flu in this flu season. Six hundred and fifty thousand cases of flu and They're they're a already Tens of thousands of people that You know catching this thing and and yet I find one thing Dan you that I think is so ironic because and we've commented on this is Boy This is dangerous. It's going to mess up the economy. What's the Fed going to do about it? Commonsense where but bullard the president of the FE at In in Saint Louis said he had a quote. He was asked this in the quote shows. How Ridiculous Affair Air? So his his key when they ask him about this Federal Reserve. What can they do about The the Corona Laura. He's as well. You know you get a cold and maybe drink more orange juice than you would. Otherwise does that cure the cold. Probably not but it treats some of the symptoms so I think it might help a little bit. Can you think you're saying that they can cure? But they actually believe that they are the The backstop for any any controls getting you know any financial markets getting out of control. Of course today. Things are moving. You know it's it's even enough to move gold significantly but even the stock market down Sir shortly and they are the protector of the financial markets. The last resort. And and you know there are a busy right now but I think I think the odds of solving these problems because I think In one case we're overreacting and other places we're under reacting and and they never suggest What we should be doing like when it comes on. Are they thinking about protecting the first amendment or they think in about You know the monetary policy design in our constitution that You shouldn't have a central bank and only gold and silver should be legal tender. That totally irrelevant. It's just a WHO's going to manage things and yet all we hear now is What we need what the backup will be print money and of course Spend more money and expect that we'll take care of it and And and soon we will find out but right now I think. There's a tremendous overreaction in the markets from the virus but it's under Other estimated because I think the reaction in the market should be due to what the Fed has already done for the past ten twenty thirty years designing the you the biggest bubble ever in the history of maybe the world especially or at least in the United States. It reminds me of that. Famous old saying never let a good crisis go to waste but you know be running when when you said you wanted to talk about the corona virus and. I know you'd mentioned this so I went over to the The CDC website that Centers for Disease Control and they had a new document. They just put out. They put out an estimate for the twenty nineteen twenty twenty police season and these statistics are alarming as you pointed out Worldwide only two point. Four thousand people have died from corona worldwide. Here's what the CDC says about the American flu season. October first nineteen to February. Fifteen twenty twenty twenty nine to forty one million flu illnesses. Thirteen to nineteen million flu. Medical visits to one hundred eighty two five hundred thousand hospitalizations sixteen thousand to forty one thousand debt. This is from the radio rolled American flu and and as you say the headlines are dominated with the corona virus and I know you WanNa be causes because we never know but when you look at the old American flu kind of pills. By comparison they they. Don't remember about that rule. I do no harm also reminds me of my first week in Congress in nineteen seventy six when we had to deal with the swine flu and this was a political stunt because Ford was president and having a difficult time getting reelected after Watergate but The there was big scare politicized and so there was a rapid Row vote brought to the floor. Bill hundred thirty five million dollars to knock everybody in the United States and so they get it passed and the irony of all. This was that there were two doctors in the Congress. At that time I sell and Larry McDonald. Who was A and we were the only two that voted against it. You know and and and our concerns. Of course. There were several reasons. This is not the way to practice medicine. Obviously and sometimes people get sick from shots. It turned out a lot. More people died you know. I don't think anybody died from the flu. And they had like five hundred K. Hase's go in Berar Syndrome And and death from that so that was much more deadly they inoculated forty five million people and after about six months. They got only because it wasn't working so what they did. They finally cancel. Cancel the program. So you've already mentioned the caution that we have to say this with because everything is risky. And you don't want to you let your guard down. But what if what if it is good health that prevents it? Listen I read that children. Don't even essentially don't get as a corona viruses and they they The people who are out in the sunshine and getting the Right Nutrition Are Less likely to get it and When it boils down to it it will probably be that the people who died in this could be true with Slough but I think the biggest discrepancy in all this is You know ten thousand people die from the flu and We're getting really really excited about thirteen case in us. Without any deaths. So I would ask people just to stop and think about it. The marketer come unglued but just think manual one one suspicion I have another I I have expressed. This is that this may turn out to be very very convenient Blame all the correction. Blame the bursting of the puzzle on the virus. Not a policy. Not On policy and spending and You know the movement towards socialism. Now that they're not going to do that. But the virus might be a convenient whipping boy and the administration can always use the the Federal Reserve but not not many people are going to be talking about the monetary policy in the fiscal policies of this country. Yeah and speaking of being in a panic our last topic we were GonNA talk about. Is the Democratic Party in a panic? About derise Bernie Sanders. It's pretty incredible. Isn't it darker ball boy boy? I'll tell you this is something. There was one article I read Simone. He it was. It was unbelievable. How panic the Democrats are and I felt so? Sorry for 'em but but They I think they're you know. They don't like unconventional politician. I trump is you know a little unconventional even though he goes along with them lock. He's unconventional. He doesn't deserve the popularity. So therefore anybody who voted for him as an idiot and know they hate them. And then it spends over to Directing all their hate toward Toward the president and this is this is what they do right now. The Democrats are doing to To Sanders Sanders has some real wild policy. I know some people are concern that this is a sign of the movement of the country that we are going to become social and we are going to be too much involved and I'm not totally convinced of that because it's such a failed system but It's going to be a challenge to counteract The deep state and the media and all that we have to contend with but That is going to be a real challenge so they have to destroy Sanders but I don't think it should be a job. Why don't they just tell the truth about him the idiocy of trillions and trillions of dollars and they never and his answers to this question well? I'm not sure exactly how much it'll be. But it'll cost a lot that we have if modern monetary theory which is just an exaggeration of the old theory. There everybody gets everybody gets free stuff. I and That that we know going to end but when will the people wake up and say hey? It's all a fraud. This is all fake We talk about fake news. What about fake politicians and I wonder if the silver lining of a of a of a scandalous rise might be that the conservative star of rethinking the idea of fiscal conservatism. Remember that but you know you mentioned data and this is the last thing that I'll mention if you don't mind It's interesting the deep state reaction against trump and sanders being the two strongest candidates because over the past week we've seen two reports from unnamed intelligence officials that the Russians are helping sanders and they're helping trump and it seems to me like the deep state is Is is really trying to get in the race. It's pretty interesting when I when I watched this on. Tv The same individuals over and over again in the last three years. They call all the stations and their back catalogue again. After three years approving they will say it was all based on lies all that Russia Gate doesn't and they come up with the same stuff no proof of anything and these announcers on TV MSNBC AND CNN and they say they say with a straight face they they say they have no shame they're either really really able to Bury their Their their any desired all the truth or they don't know any better but they have no shame they say that if they had just discovered the most significant thing in the world the Russians are coming the Russians are coming. We know what that means so anyway. I find it pretty interesting. All that's going on. I often think that I like to keep up with try to make the best assessment I can but here too. It's too bad it's so serious because you know a runaway Bursting financial bubble and overreaction to Karuna viruses and then wars that don't need to be Fraud and then. They civil liberties being undermined by and bipartisan. Deep State That's that's too serious. To say this is a fun. Jayme so Daniel. I'm hoping that we can keep this battle going and we will do our best to expose the truth thing so call. Thank thank you Daniel and I wanNA thank the audience today for tuning into the Liberty Report. Please come back soon.
The Fed Creates Crisis: Black Swan Events (Like Coronavirus) Light The Fuse
"Hello everyone and thank you for tuning in to Liberty Report with me today is Chris. Rosanna are co hosts Chris. Welcome to the program. It's great to be with you. Dr Paul Good We feel good. We feel great and doing well and we're going to do our job but there's a lot of people today are not feeling well. You know the ones who have anticipated the stock market would go to the sky and lasts forever and lot of a lot of money being lost and the world is suffering from You know the The the virus The Corona virus. And of course I personally think. There's an over exaggeration of the danger of that. But that's a danger Dan. There's danger in meat. You're saying that but I think that's been overblown but the markets have been rocky and I found something interesting this week because they announced that this was the largest drop from the peak of a stock market. Ever you know like seven straight days thousand dollars a day going down. It looks like today. We'll be another down day because I I remember One of the Austrian economists. The famous ones One of the famous ones told me many many years ago. Stock markets don't crash from the peak. They usually crashed from ten percent down. And then all of a sudden recovery is evident. They don't they don't pass a certain level and they don't go back and they can't challenge the old peak but they're saying this is really the first time they've really noticed so it is unique. There's but I think this is a reflection of is not anything new or different It doesn't challenge Austrian economics. It just sort of verifies some of our concerned. This is a big bubble and this is more probably the biggest ever you know. They keep saying Oh this time it's different. It's not worried about but we were saying yeah. This time is different but it's much worse and there's there's not much joy and being Close to a predicting what's coming But this this this was a big bobble it's crack and we don't know even whether it's going to last a week a month or year because people do different things than governments do different things than central banks do different things. But ultimately the ruling comes from the individual You know players in the market so there will be a lot of mischief involved treasury and and I am F- and World Bank and and You know the the You Know Bank of International Settlements they are going to be involved and and that's hard to predict but I think the long term the major problems that bobble it was there was bigger than ever and a they kept that pump going solidly for ten years and they thought it could last forever so this this severe correction Is Is Had been expected. You know some say well. It was the corona virus. The colonel did is I think the coroner virus has something to do with it but we look at the you know the ignition because we understood distortion the bubble out there the amount of artificial credit the amount of Malan vestment that goes on the amount of debt in the world. So that is that is what people should be concentrated. Not on what precipitated you know last week's crash Oh It's around virus so all we have to do is spend. We'll print more money. Spent more money on dealing with that medical emergency and quite frankly. I think the money spent. There is just an aggravation. Long-term to the market in probably isn't dealing with the corona virus because I'm not sure they really understand everything about the corona virus and if you go by deaths being reported you should get a little bit of reassurance because there's essentially no Dasan United States and yet this flu season we've had ten thousand. Americans die from influenza and in a year it can be six hundred thousand. You know It's it's it's it's all the reaction to it and it looks like it was in the interest of some people to stir up the fear and problems. They're going on so but it's practically impossible now for the politicians or anybody else helps calm down a little bit. Let's think about it but you know what there have been a few scientists and people who were well trained in this type of problem epide- and all and they come up with some sensible Explanations but politically. It's easy to demagogue this and try to place blame on the opposition so Chris. I'm sure you've been looking at this. And looking at how the markets are going. It looks like it's been rocky and and gold has been challenged and I think that we have to keep a close eye on all the markets. That's right Dr Paul and I agree with you. One hundred percent on corona virus. Just being fused to what we've been talking about for years. Here's a breaking breaking news. The Corona virus did not create the stock market bump the federal reserved. And we've been talking about that over and over telling people that this is very bad. What they're doing because they manipulate the economy. They manipulate money. They counterfeit money and prices are the lifeblood of the economy. Prices are supposed to tell us the truth about supply and demand for every resource in the economy. People make economic decisions investments based on prices when their ally. You're making bad decisions now. When when they tell the truth are still going to be bad decisions. But they're not gonNA be a gigantic bubble like they are now and that's what the Fed has creed by interfering with interest rates by counterfeiting money. They turned the economy into a carnival. Fun House or a house. Amir's you don't know what decisions to make you have companies out there that don't make money don't know if they're ever going to make money and that's that's just fine just like during the dot com bubble that's what they do and and but because there's a economic activity You know the president walks around saying this is the greatest economy ever now. Is the greatest distortions. Ever and distortions have to be corrected. And that's when the financial crisis comes to correct all of these mistakes that the Federal Reserve has engendered right and things like you've just talked about can go on a long period of time and although Austrian economics teaches us. How to anticipate it and spot a bubble others say you know you never know. When there's a bubble but Austrian economics teaches. You can spot them but they also teach that you don't know exactly how big it'll be how much you'll lassen how people will react. And what what the central banks will do. And what the Bala Titians will do and all sorts of thing and and and what will the effect of You know a viral scare. That's going to wail wipe out half the half the population of the earth. You know all these kinds of things are are involved but you know I think what the what helped In the conventional sense Ten years ago when they had the crash in eighty nine. was Keynesian economics. At least it tidy things over. They spend more money. Run up the debt print more money and a lot of pain and suffering and we still had You know housing bubble crashes and and loss of pain and suffering but It it always is the fact that the government can take care of. What really helped todd over and got US? Another boost in the bubble Ten years ago was the fact that the dollar was strong enough to rescue it Rescue the system so the dollar printed and manipulated in the tune of trillions and trillions of dollars and things Gradually crept back down to a point where people were feeling better but hadn't solved the problem at the same time. Some people were feeling better. That the number of people who were living on the streets dramatically went up and all that did was give fodder to those individuals. See Freedom doesn't work. That's why we need socialism but the government so a long period of time have used gold as an indicator. Because that's what the market wants to use the gold the gold price. And what will people do? And I'll tell you what the government is doing. So what do they do they have to regulate gold? They have to rig the so called price of gold what was the first thing that FDR he got out of the way. We're just taking into Oracle we're not GonNa let the people vote With with their pocket book or their intuition and decide whether it should they have golden? I will make it illegal and he did that. All the way from one thousand nine hundred thirty three up to nineteen seventy-one but that that was the inner indicator but the rigging of the price lead people to believe the dollar was strong. The dollar did stay strong. It's still is strong. But they're really getting antsy right now. I'll bet they're Ansi right now. The plunge protection team. That's supposed to keep the stock market. High keep the economy booming. Take care of all the deficit to finance the welfare state finance the military industrial complex. And take care of the world with. They had had to continue. The student has one of the things that we noticed. Last week was All of a sudden when the gold price was going up too fast Somebody they identified somebody come in and dump tons of gold and it was sad and written that This was the Bank of International Settlements Central Bank for all central banks and they have a Lotta power whether they have the golden their pocket. They have a lot of clout With show the price of gold was dry dry Driven down but since then gold price came back up but now gold is under attack again. But it's in the interest of the state it's in the interest of those who have to protect the dollar you know and so the indicator is once again being attacked and and yet long-term maybe next week maybe later today. The market may overwhelm because they can't win that fight Just like they couldn't win the fight of fixing the dollar at thirty five dollars. An ounce for all those years eventually They have to K- then and that's what you don't do is when that happens. Because there's a subjective interpretation of of everybody who gets deals with and there's all competing with governments and central banks who have to rig things it's Eh there just in the business of lying they and the lies can help a whole lot like they've spent Near One Hundred Years Teaching people deficits really don't matter and printing money doesn't matter and we can we can we can rig this all and They taught people and people barely believe it doesn't matter so where are we now? The world's in two hundred and fifty five trillion dollars worth of debt and ours is sky. High I a every time. There's a problem even now. Oh Corona virus it. It's a it's a serious problem and it is. I won't deny that problem. So what do they do? What will ask the Federal Reserve Board Chairman? Is he going to help? Bail them out so they go to the Federal Reserve as if printing board digits more paper. Money is all of a sudden going to handle things you you know. I keep thinking that make sure that the market forces are there and information is available the other day I heard something where somebody you know The the travel has been impeded by the fear that exists and they were having trouble getting the products they need to keep businesses open and it was getting more complicated and then there was a criticism because somebody in the process was gouging. I keep thinking well you know. Gouging is raising the prices to show you. There's a scarcity encourage people to produce more or take more of a risk you know under these conditions so That that is the last thing you do is need more management thing and the other thing that caught my attention was the fact that right now. They're concerned the number of cases are expanding In Iran of course their way out of control in China that happens to be a system of government. That's the last Last thing for free markets. But there's a lot of people suffering there media. Ron have already been suffering for decades under the thumb the US government putting sanctions on all the time. And it's a poor country and it is now known corona virus. You know if a person is in good health. Young people don't seem to be getting it and if medications aren't available and the economy is slumping and an economic titian conditions are poor you that raises it but They would never see. Nobody wants ever talk about that. Maybe we made it tougher for some countries. Fortunately so far. It looks like we're not going to have that type of thing happened here. but I just don't think that the market is going to all of a sudden be able to The government's GonNa come in and and take care of this because you know one term that we've heard about for a long time. Is I in medicine especially first do no harm and I wish we could teach our government to do that. I do no harm right that we do. We'd live in a different world if they followed that Victim but you mentioned Dr Paul Manipulated goal because this week we were discussing. We saw pieces that were written. You know the people that really dive in and they expose this stuff while yeah I mean they. Of course they manipulate old. You know think about who were discussing here. These are people that when they campaign for office they lie. Everybody knows that when they're in office they lie. They lie about the economy. President says greatest economy. They lie about giving everything away for free. When it comes to war they lie before during and after the war. So why would anybody think that gold is off limits? They're not going to touch gold. Gold is gold. We'll stay in a market price. Absolutely not because gold is their major enemy. Gold is what If if we went back to goal this money that would put an end to all this the spending debt the worse when you think about the world wars these were major conflicts that happened with central banking Fiat money. If there was gold money there would be. How would they financing they? They can't counterfeit gold so of course they manipulate gold but manipulation as you also touched upon can only work in short term and the short term may be decades or even one hundred years because when you think of the grand scheme of things one hundred years is nothing spitting a bucket. The market always reasserts itself. The truth always wins in the end and Goldwyn. You know Chris. One interesting period time early in the after the woods ended in nineteen seventy one because in the sixties I had been reading about and studying fascinated with monetary policy and The International Gold Standard and It was anticipated even from sixty eight up to seventy one that this would happen. The Brentwood would break down. And after we got rid of about seventy percent of our gold at thirty five dollars an ounce people recognize. Hey you know it's not right. It's not working. We don't want to give up all our goal So that's when the Bretton Woods broke down but there was an anticipation before nineteen seventy-one immediately after Nineteen seventy-one people. Could I go? It wasn't legal yet Wasn't legal until nineteen seventy five. But after seventy one there was more purchase and it was sort of like legalizing marijuana. They got to appear time where they weren't throwing as many people in jail. But you weren't being arrested for for by buying gold so gold was to be legalized became legal again. January first nineteen seventy five so in one thousand nine hundred eighty four and a couple of years before gold prices keping building up and building up and on the day Gold re-legalize on January first gold was one hundred ninety five dollars and there was a lot of anticipation you know that. Wow if it's now and now the American people can buy gold Guess what happened Goldwyn? Dan went down for a whole year because a lot of people knew what was going on. So this whole idea but the one thing happened to make sure the gold price went down into sort a Diminish anybody's in enthusiasm for gold and not the dollar is is is the fact that the federal the Federal Reserve came in and interfered And the IMF they dumped gold and the Federal Reserve The Treasury Department dumped goal so the first day it was legalized gold. Prices went sharply. That's understandable but it also is a trick. It's also a lie. It was that concerted effort always to try to confuse the people to try to protect. You know the monopoly. Money the government money. And you know you you know it would work. The seventies were rough and tumble but You know body eighties dollar maintained its reserve currency and even after seven eight. They've been able to maintain but it's always them right now. That's why I think that the goal will be to make sure the metals don't do well so it doesn't mean that all the rules out you should never be considering a gold You know but long term. It should be a different way. It's also the reason that I never thought it was very smart for me to be involved in the futures market just because of the manipulation. And there's not only this effort by the governments to do it for protection of their Monopoly it's also done by people who are in the banking business and they regan tried to control the market and it's been good cases with some good people who challenged and they've won some cases in court where the they tried their regan control the silver market and the goal market is still happens but for all the I think the biggest rigging the greatest danger is when our government officials get involved a re gold and that is what I think they owe us to try to punish people who try to prove otherwise and it eventually though when they say that this is different and we were smarter now some Fed chairman. We're smarter now. We know how Greenspan was what he used to tell me he says. Yeah you're right Ron we know about we know. Buy Gold and you understand it but he told me he says but we believe that we understand this better and we can make the dollar paper system work as if it were gold Well Good Luck Ed. So he he did that. Of course it didn't didn't work And it can tide things over but the great danger of their short there. The the the Establishments you know tiding things over and helping and people say hey. It looks like it's going to be more I. It looks like it's GonNa be be working. Give us some extra time. All they do is make the bubble bigger. It is different this time. It's different than ever before because the bubble has been bigger than ever before. I don't think we've let off air. Yes for anybody to be comfortable. It's going to be rough and tumble not. Because the answers aren't there the the answer is just let things go let the bankruptcy come and go back to work and get rid of the government. Taxing system and monetary system. It's not going to happen so they're going to make it linger and that's what they did in the depression. They tried to say well. We know how to get out of a depression. And of course all they did was delay it. We didn't get out of depression till nineteen forty six. So it's is different now and unfortunately We in the free market Austrian school back in. We don't have a whole lot of say in Washington because keynesianism and socialism all our prevailing. But there's still a lot of people out there that know the difference now that their system is crashing. The biggest challenge we have is not letting those so-called Socialist get away with saying say the free market and capitalism. Gold is all bad We need to explain the difference of of Crony capitalism and keynesianism camouflaged as a free market system and And show that that's the problem and that's one introduce it. All the bubbles all the bailouts so unless we prove that we're going to end up with too many socialists. Getting involved in this next election Dr Paul. Finish up You know you mentioned. We don't have much pull in Washington but we have pulled with the people that matter and that's the people that watch our show every single day and we couldn't be more thankful for that and As Dr Paul always alludes to encloses a lot of times with his statements is the role of government. That's what the big picture is. Because no matter who you are in this world or no matter how much you have life is hard. It's constant problem solved. Now when you add government to life they make things really really hard because they multiply problems and but there could beat. There's varying degrees on how much government problems there are and that's how much they are allowed to interfere in life. They are allowed to interfere very little though. Create very little damage if they interfere a lot and we have the biggest government to ever exist on earth ever. They're going to mess things up a lot. And that's what we have. No America's founders. They wanted a government that would interfere very little. They thought at that time. It's a necessary. Evil they you know is. Is it a necessary evil? That's open for debate. But they wanted it. If you're going to have this evil to be small that it can't ruin people's liberties well that was then and this is now. They've now run roughshod on on our liberties and we but the answer is always the same to go back to having a government. If you're going to have one that is limited to these certain powers that cannot interfere with your liberty and the best way in our opinion to get that ball. Rolling is very good. Chris and I think that We can continue to make progress if we convince enough people important people especially who You know are involved in producing and spreading. Ideas is that We have to realize that People vote and do things because they believe it's in their best interest I mean why why would they? Why would they give token support to the so called Solution makers in running for the presidency right now As somebody that can offer us. Well it's free stuff if we can't prove to them that it's not in their interest to go along with free stuff Then that's our problem. We're not doing a very good job because common sense tells you and I think young people especially Respond to logic more so than people who have gone twenty or thirty years in our economic in our political system because they've been proven you have to have have management but it is in their best interest but right now You know it looks like people think that free stuff is in their best interest. Well I would wonder if that's the way the people feel in Venezuela that free stuff you were they going to get this free stop and that that to me is is the challenge and we have opportunities in spite of all the shortcomings with the Internet. our message has been getting getting out and more so by a lot of other people. I think the cinema is there and so talking about sound economic policies being the solution to the people who want a better better time. Want big middle class for instance. How do you get the largest middle-class prosperous last ever? It's under the greater the freedom the greater the middle class right now are middle. Class is shrinking but the number of people who are understanding and interested in honest up up front free market economics and sound money and limited government. Our numbers are growing. And I think that's good news and we're going to keep at it but I do want to thank all our viewers for tuning in and giving us a poor. I want to urge you to come back to the liberty report soon.
Washington's Lonely Mr. No - With Rep Thomas Massie
"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into Liberty Report with me today is Daniel McCallum our co host Daniel. Good to see you this morning this morning. Dr Paul Good. It's a good day today because we have a special guest and think need about our guests. Thomas Massie he's well known for being you know real believer Iran Liberty. But he's also believe in being a little bit Abate yes sometimes. People get too downbeat over because it deserves to be down. Be But Thomas. Welcome to our program today. Hey thank you ron. Thanks for having me on wonderful I wanNA start off with You know our history. Of course I knew you you before you were elected to Congress and we served together for two months for seven weeks so excited to sit next to try to. There's some liberty to do it on my own. Yeah but you know. There's there's one thing that I want to caution you about you know before you came. It didn't happen happen because that was such a short time when both the people would come up to me. And say Ron. You are the best congressman there is and I'd always say well you have to consider the competition. So that's why I'm GonNa tell you. You are the best congressman but you have to think what about my competition right. They say when you get elected to Congress you pinch yourself and wonder how you got there and after a couple months and you meet your colleagues you start wondering how they got there. Well I'll tell you one thing that you really really. We wonder if he ever when you become a candidate for president you go and you run into a six eight ten fifteen candidate or look at the Democratic Foreign Group right now and you say and you get to know a little bit when you're on debates with have been talked to him the light. What are these people are going to be pressing the United States? I used to think that there's no way individual like me or somebody else could be present but when I looked at them boy what a difference people shouldn't be reassured they know some of them Personally but yeah. That's a that's a good argument for smaller rest intrusive government because these folks are angels. They're not savant. There's nothing remarkable about them. They have the same witnesses that everybody else has. And that's why we shouldn't let them run our lives but you know what it does. It invites the enthusiasm for or something you deal with an idea with and that is messy. Because you're still on the road and you helped so many people. You've helped us out and conferences so that that is where the real issue is changing people's attitudes and minds you know it isn't those members of Congress that we run into it's It's the people in the universities. Universities that people in the media and all the people who've learned economics badly on the people for academic reasons and propaganda reasons endorsed type of foreign foreign policy and of course the monetary policy. So the action is. I've always thought the action is outside of the politicians. But I used that as a forum. And you do that so well well too because people know your beliefs and And they know that you have conviction in which direction you WanNa go and obviously that what is clearly for less government. Yeah and you know. Even though the whole thing is rigged at times they won't yield you even thirty seconds to join the the debate sometimes there is a democratic feature of the House of Representatives whereby anybody can go to the floor of the House for one minute and speak at new. ooh right and most of these other congressmen used that one minute to congratulate sports team or something back in the district. And that's fine but I like to use those one minutes to the advocate for saying foreign policy or less intervention for smaller government and those sorts of things. But at least we can still go to the floor As members of Congress Chris and give a speech and get that out there and be the voice that some people don't hear these presidential debates don't hear from their own congressman right Daniel. Now those one minutes great Mr Massey. There there's something for the permanent record as they say I'm tempted. I was thinking about. You know we're so happy to have you on the show all the things we could talk about and I hate to start with something. That's neither political nor dealing with policy. But I can't resist one of my favorite documentaries of all time. Time is the one that Matt Kimmy did about you in the off the grid with Thomas Massie and I've recommended it. It's so many. Dozens of people have watched it probably twenty times. I I suggest half hour you'll spend I think but I can't resist asking you now a couple of years on after the film's been made you refer to the House that you've built by hand literally you know minding your own rocks as the Shire and I was just going to ask you how things are at the Shire these days a couple years after Matt's documentary this showers running time today. I just came from my house off the grid after Dr Four Miles to get on the grid and join you in the studio but The Sun was a shining yesterday. So we're excited about that. We're using our would gasify boiler basically takes word turns into a gas and then burns it in a very clean process. That's heating our house Since we made the documentary of made some upgrades for instance. I added some solar panels that are vertical. So that when it snows here in Kentucky you don't get much of that in Texas but when it snows in Kentucky the snow doesn't accumulate on those new panels and I- upgraded our battery. I had this Brunch of clunking. Clunky lead acid batteries in my basement. Instead I I've now found a battery from a wreck model as Tesla I took it apart and rewired it for forty eight volts reprogrammed it and it's running our house today. That's amazing wonderful. The walk and talking to. Yeah well I have I have I have a question on what's going on in in public right now and we'd like to keep up with all the events and the biggest event right now is corona virus and it's it's significant because there's a lot of strong feelings in both directions you know it's the end of the world in the other is a a bad cold and by now. You probably have been asked about that. Have you been asked about the corona virus and what one must do and whether or not there should be corn warranties or has the subject come up with any of your media well It's not come up within my media. I think people are trying to gauge H.. How seriously to take it you know? We had the abol a scare in the swine flu and the bird flu and all these other Plagues that we're going to decimate somme the population CERTA speak I think it's I think it's good to be cautious I think also at the same time. You can have more more casualties from overreacting so I'm paying close attention to the reports that that were getting and You know we need to understand how the virus spreads before we start trying to figure out how to keep it from spreading and It's a new virus in it behaves new away and I think that's what's bothering people the most well. I think what I sense from. Your statement is a medical statement. I do no harm in politically officer. You're the doctor. The politicians don't follow much. I do know they wouldn't have anything to do. You know that. Okay Daniel actually. The political equivalent of that is never let a good crisis go to waste. Washington is probably say. But you know Mr Mass. You've I've been very vocal about this piecemeal business and I've seen a couple of great floor speeches and I've seen some great statements. In fact I think one of the best tweets I've ever seen which captures the whole thing. Just a couple of words. If withholding foreign aid is an impeachable offense. Why did Joe Biden threatened to do it? You know so simple. Why is no talking about Brag about your brag about? What's your take on these are these are? That's just a simple question that I get from my constituents and after the tenth when asked asked me that I decided you know I should tweet that the other thing. They asked me as if they're accused the president of using his official capacity to harm one of his opponents in the next selection. Why are these Democratic senators who are running for president using their you know official capacity to damage his reputation? I do have to You know Congratulate Tulsi Gabbard for at least voting present and not voting. Yes or no on the peach Melba jam when it was in the house because she she is running for president and I think it really is hypocritical for them to to try to damage the president by the way. Even Nancy Pelosi said. This should be bipartisan. But the only thing. That's bipartisan about. This impeachment is the opposition to it Every Republican and some Democrats voted voted against the impeachment in the house. And I think you're gonNA see the same thing in the Senate. It'll be great when we get this behind us but you know I was on the oversight committee so I was down in the scare With Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows when Adam Schiff was having what we call the witness tryouts he would bring them in there and if they performed in a way right damaged the president he would call them above ground. You know Outside of this gift for the other hearings but while we're sitting down there I realized that the Liberals Bulls had lost their momentum. It turns out things like universal background checks and red flag. Laws are gun control. That they were pushing rushing. I was thankful that they've lost their momentum on that so if there's one small silver lining in this whole impeachment sham. It's it's what I think. Nancy Pelosi knew in her heart. Art Number One It stopped their momentum in their agenda. That number two. It's going to hurt him at the ballot box. Because American people see through it. You Know Kentucky. He is a state that Sometimes Statewide Democrats For various reasons. And it's a little more complicated than just saying Republican Democrat but but How the higher this Kentucky come down now on impeachment if if somebody like you to use suffer or do you benefit by taking your position impeachment? My constituents have tuned out to out a long time ago. Most of them turned off the TV on impeachment. When the president released the call transcript of his call all with the president of Ukraine? CEO Here in Kentucky Sobat like the Mueller Report. It's a big nothing burger for the most part of of course I. There are some Democrats who are excited by impeachment and the prospect of overturning. The last election that even most of the Democrats that's and nearly all of the Republicans in Kentucky are against impeachment. What was speaking of politics? Let's turn a little bit to politics politics. If you don't mind we were a little surprised to see that you picked up a Republican challenger and I don't know how much if any you WanNa talk about it but it is. It is kind of interesting. Whoa what happened? What's going on down there when you know? I've been blessed to go eight years without a serious primary Challenger Since I won my first election but that hasn't kept the establishment from trying to recruit somebody and every year. They've nearly recruited somebody but the person backs out on them in the last second will this year they got somebody to actually put his name on the ballot and ironically he started out by his campaign. Started out the by saying that I wasn't supporting the President Enough You know I'm going to be a delegate most likely for for the president in the upcoming reelection I was a delegate at the RNC for him in the last election. I'm on I'm a CO chair of his reelecting Kentucky so I found it somewhat ironic but there is a website run by. ABC News called fivethirtyeight that tries to gauge. Based on your votes folks whether you're for the president or against the president and they give you some kind of score and I went and looked at that and every omnibus bill every debt limit. And every CR. You're if you didn't vote for them. They said you were against the president because he ultimately signed it every time you send arms to Saudi Arabia if you vote against is that if you voted against the feis accord I found seventeen votes where they said I wasn't with the president because I wouldn't vote reauthorized the court that spied on him because I wouldn't vote to send arms to Saudi Arabia and because I wouldn't vote for all of this All the debt limits and the horrible omnibus he was basically strong armed into signing. So those are things. Even the president didn't support so I think there are metrics are off but here's what's interesting Rewire we went and looked into facebook. Page of my opponent and it turns out. He's never trumper he's trying to say I don't support the president. He called for a coup a military coup against this president after he was elected of your among other things so I think that's GonNa hurt. His chances is a widow bet. He's he always planned on running. I think and ASTROTURF campaign. He's not been out talking to people I've been talking to them for eight years I will stand and proudly by my voting record. You know I tell people that when I came to Congress I don't give my card because if along seven hundred and fifty thousand people in Kentucky Rocky. I don't give the voting card to the Republican Party. I never gave it to John Bainer. I sure as heck didn't give it to Paul Ryan. I was the only Republican who wouldn't vote for Paul Ryan to be Speaker Speaker because I knew he was good stronger. The president under the bus. Eventually he already under the election. But I just don't get my voting card anybody because the people of Kentucky you want somebody who's independent and they want somebody who will vote for the Constitution and frankly Congress needs to do a better job of sending the president bills that he can happily on and we need to quit sending him in Omnibus Bill. This got twelve bills in one. You know the president would love to have a line item veto but that's been declared unconstitutional but the next best thing would be dissent him. Twelve separate appropriations bills instead of sending him one big giant bill. That's it's got all twelve bills in it and if he doesn't sign it the government shuts down in the part of the government. The people want has to shut down so congress needs to do a better job. I'm fighting for the president here in Congress to make sure. We get better bills on his desk. Thomas I take a position which at times is a little bit controversy. I want to get your opinion about it because as I state that You know it's there's not good Could challenges between the two party. It's very bipartisan. How can this be? They hate each other's guts and all you hear is peak men Peach Mint but my argument here is down the big stuff. Whether it's the Federal Reserve war spending you know suspend and the impeachments go past the mud budget money and it has nothing to do with a really big stuff you know they they never really cut back with us. Republicans Republicans or Democrats but people say. No they're fighting my my sword. Understanding is P- people fight between the two parties because its power and personalities. Involved do you do you think there's Do you think that's unfair to the Republicans to say there's too much bipartisanship. No that's not unfair at all even When Obama was president that Republicans in the majority we gleefully spent him Sent him spending bills has spent way too much money. The the bipartisanship should be in favor of returning to sane fiscal policy insane foreign policy. But what you see is. There's a bipartisan coalition. That's always ready to vote for another war if they even had the courage to vote on it but they'll definitely spend the money that it takes to have another war and they get together and they agreed to spend more money and a lot of these fights that you see between Republicans and Democrats in the media the kind of fake because at the end of the day the Republican leadership is whipping with the democratic leadership to get everybody everybody in the house to vote for these horrible omnibus bills but there is a good bipartisanship to you. Know you reach across the aisle for example with Barbara Lee to repeal this horrible two thousand and two authorization for military force on Iraq. And that's the kind of good by the real bipartisanship but I wouldn't would. We'd like to turn to another topic Thomson. I know that you're very active in this and so I wanted to get your take. You've been very active on Second Amendment rights you've been to so many rallies lately and I'm wondering what is your take on. What's happening in Virginia? It's amazing to see First of all the swift turnaround swift attacks on the second. But but then also the People's responses wish to this point of the ignored so I'd love to hear your take on Virginia and the Second Amendment. Well I think that Sanctuary County Movement For for Second Amendment. I support that. Some people wrongly liken it to The amnesty for illegal aliens a sanctuary city movement there with that's more of an elitist movement. The illegal alien amnesty was this is a a popular movement is supported by the voters the Second Amendment Sanctuary Movement and basically what what they're doing is saying we're gonNA push back you're violating rating the constitution. That's the other thing here. Is You know I'm a conservative. I believe in the rule of law. I think it's bad to have a rule of man ten or rule of kings. I believe in the rule of law with the supreme old the law of wall the law of the land is the constitution. So what these sanctuary very Second Amendment Sanctuary county movements are about is saying you know what we're not going to violate the constitution even if you have some intermediate law between the Constitution in an office. That's not valid. And so I support it one hundred percent I went to the Sanctuary Second Amendment Sanctuary County movement in my own county. They had the biggest turnout if ever had in that courtroom in just a small town and then this past weekend was in Frankfurt at the rally. And I'll tell you what what these are the most peaceful polite rallies you've ever been to when everybody's carrying on the opposite of what the news tries to portray and of course they're all stripes of life they're all ethnicities breath the cameras only you know. Try to film the Caucasians and put that on on TV and try to make this about some. You know privilege movement or something. That is ridiculous. You Know God made man and Samuel Colt made all all men equal. So that's you know any also made men and women equal We have some great legislators in Kentucky who are women there were actually instrumental savannah. Matic's was in pushing constitutional. Carry Bill that we got last Last legislature in Kentucky so. I think it's a good movement. I support it. There are sheriffs were willing to go to jail. There's there we won't enforce the law and it's not as dot. They're willing going to go to jail because they realized there needs to be court battle instead of walking up one of their constituents. They're ready to be locked up in order to fight for their constituents very good and we're going to have to wind down Thomas. I want to thank you very much for being with us but I do want to mention to you that you've been very interesting and helpful with our our institute for Peace and prosperity and we will be having a conference in the Washington area Alexandria near the airport in September. So that's just a hint. They would love to have you there. That sounds great. That's after my may nineteen primaries how we can help you celebrate. Yes we're predict that you're you're going to. We'll take a lot of risky votes here. I appreciate your endorsement Ron but it's Carol Paul's endorsement that I sought out and valued the most. You know you've learned. I'll tell you the people that have her telephone number know how to operate. Hey but anyway. We were delighted when you came to town here and visit our home. We had a meeting there and and all that. So thank you very much Chan this skit together. As soon as we key on and pursues the house apiece. AM prosperity. Thank you keep the flame alive that you and kept burning for us Ron in Congress wonderful and I want to thank our viewers today tuning in today Please come back soon.
When Will Covid Tyranny End? W.H.O. Director: 'Never!' Unless...
"There will be no return to old normal for the foreseeable future. But there is a roadmap to a situation where we can control the disease and get on with our lives. But this is going to require three things. I. Hello everybody and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty report with today's is Daniel. Mike Adams are co host damn good to see you so exciting to. We got to see the director that we got confused. Assure you that things will be okay. We won't tell them, but they who knew how to handle your. He'll protect our liberties. Protect our pocketbooks. All that what a tragedy it's! You still bewilders me how how the American people who have allowed to go this far and they get in long goes to seasonable for more aggressive people get. I mean just the other day. What somebody? What didn't have their mask on? Somebody comes in and Mason in their face. I mean it's. It's totally out of control, but. We're doing our best to try to reassure. People is not not quite as bad as a safe thing to say not quite as bad as they've painted. It is serious. People been sick, but now the more I read the more I think. That it's even less dangerous than they said. Because came across this article on Lucite today and Had to do with the testing we've talked a lot about testing and how they fudge the numbers, and they don't test. Sometimes they're positive and anybody who test positive is infecting the world, but here here's one that really opens it up to even be being worse and here the title of it is manufactured pandemic testing people for any strain. And strain of Corona Virus Not specifically for Kobe nineteen. So can you imagine what it I two or three, I, five or ten KHURANA viruses. Like a plain old cold virus and they haven't distinguished it. It's hard for me to believe that every once in a while there will be a scientist involved with CDC and and who, but evidently not not so it looks like they're bureaucrats and politicians and people in the drug industry so I don't know what we can. What would what we can believe? And I think trump's right he he hasn't said any kind worse for either organization, but of course he's up against the whole world. And that's a that's sad, but here here is if you. If you do this testing, there's already been so many mistakes made and And they have fudge these numbers they even. Don't even do tests on people. People are getting noticed. That they've tested positive and they've never even had a test, so you would think this would wake people up in discredit this whole thing that's going on but what if one person? Head cold it well. That'd be bad. How many people are going to die over the lockdown? And that's what's that's what's coming out now home. What the tragedy is you? Hear case here case their students getting behind in year, not missing school but I'm thinking right now more. The more I see and understand it. Like wiping out a generation of kids you. The way they. Terrorize the the kids and scare them to death, and they're very become very timid, and if you get locked in their houses, which some parents do then all they do is. Developmental problems so. This whole idea that get prepared. We don't have an answer. It's going to be here longtime time, but we have a couple of things that we can do we. We can keep the really bad things happening from having better masking beggar better discipline in all this more authoritarianism, and it looks to me like the number one cause of the pandemic. Has Been. Authoritarianism because we've had a lot of opportunities, Saudi diseases and know what's going on, and on occasion a vaccine helps, but it looks like sometimes. There's one article out today. Where shows that doing nothing? They got over. Law had nothing to wear. The vaccines got credit, but the timing wasn't right in the vaccines came out after the epidemic been in close, so there's a lot of false information I get to this stage and almost all programs that seems like a struggle. To really understand sort truth fiction, and then convey it to people, so it's believable, and and convince them it's in their self interest, their best self interest for themselves and their family and the country, and for the cause of liberty but there's so many people now that have been terror terrified by, and and they're scared to death, and that runs their whole life. It was to me discussing. I've talked about baseball before, but. I watch a couple of minutes, but it was disgusting of the opening. Even know who is playing, but it was on our TV and I walk by it here. I could see the Pitcher, the batter and the catcher and empire and I couldn't see the other players in on this on this. Picture then nobody in the stands. But the or had a big MACs gone. A night I mean. I keep thinking. How long can this last in according to the CDC? And who? What would they do for a be out of business I've? David enjoyed. enjoyed their life as the past year. All the attention they're getting and who knows some of them have probably been able to make a couple of dollars off the whole deal. Yeah, I think you're using the right word terrorism. It is a form of terrorism and they terrorize people, and it's what they do. You know these these petty bureaucrats people like this guy. All mayors and even governors around the country. They've never had to keep the business open, so they have no idea what it means to keep the business open. They think you can switch the economy off like a switch. Oh, we'll turn it off for a few weeks. Turn it back on. You probably saw this on zero heads this morning. That hurts is going to have to sell one hundred. Cars to try to stay afloat. What's that GonNa do to the market and used cars and all the reverberations of things that they've done, but getting back to the WHO director and his. We didn't play the whole thing. Because frankly, it's pretty stupid, but never going back to the old normal, but here's the three things. He said three things. We've got to do so that we can live with this disease. A we have to suppress transmission. What will that do that'll keep it alive forever. Here's the forty eighth wave. Shut it down again. That's number. One number two empowered engaging engaged communities that take actions in the interest of each other. That's a long way of saying. Put on your mask. And the third thing is, we need strong government, leadership and coordination of comprehensive strategies. That's ten dollar way of saying. We need world government to tell everyone what to do, so you look into the sky and it's well publicized. Who is he? Is He a doctor? No, he's not a doctor. He's not a scientist. He's a politician Oh. What part is he from? Oh he's he's a member of the Ethiopian Communist Party so the member of the Communist Party is going to tell us. This is what we have to do to get back to normal. No, thank you, but it's a shame that people still listened to people like this. On this testing. They don't test for one thing and they know exactly what they're testing is just a group viruses. Can you imagine how much effort has been put in to lockdown and quarantines and the penalties people have suffered from this, and it's all based on what could very well be total fiction. Now I know a lot of people will believe this I happen to think it's probably is very much this, but the problem is is getting the scientific proof and say that everybody will be happy with, but that doesn't happen. Even if you haven't even visits worthwhile, they could look. Look into why one good reporter! If we had a few more bill, Sardi's near investigate this and look into it in an objective manner, and then decide whether it's true or not, but you wouldn't see that on television I think I think Fox has done a little bit better job and being balanced on this and showing that there's an extremist element in making use of this pandemic. You know, but just think what twenty five viruses that are trying to measure and this article claim they don't distinguish before between the two so every everybody's GonNa be positive. You search long enough. It did this whole idea. Don't know for sure when Wendy infection occurred whether somebody's infectious, and they have the lockdown well. Okay I have to go and punish myself for fourteen days I'm going to save the world and. It's a shame that We fear the fact that we tried to point this out in. That were that they'll say. Oh, you're you. Guys are just making fun of you. There's a serious. Serious stuff, too, because somebody could truly be sick, and you're gonNA be serious, because the treatment is overwhelmingly worse than the than the cars, and that is the lockdowns or something. Just think all the economic. You've already mentioned like the automobile. Related to also related to the male investment of the financial bubble burst fat, but the combination here so if you were in the planning business cost street, par violence. Okay, we have the the Fed is created this, but we don't. Everybody likes the Fed because they print the money, so we can't say much about it. Oh, we'll use the corona vars and we can scare everybody on. And then they say well. We need a racial point here, so Oh, this is the time to let people know how strong. How strongly they have organized. Black lives, matter and Lo and behold. There lot stronger than I ever dreamed. That isn't all spontaneity. What's going on and they have the perfect make tim and make for just to terrorize the nation and. Unfortunately I. Don't see an end of this. Except we have to believe people know the truth, they will act differently and I. think that will happen, but as the saying goes, people regain. They're saying they're saying sanity. One wanted a time where they go nuts in mobs and herds, and so I think the people are returning, but you know I've used. This is an example which would discourage statement in that is. When? We had after nine eleven and TSA. Just GonNa be temporary because we gotta make sure knowing hurt well, nothing happened after nine eleven. One on and yet TSA store tougher than ever more embarrassing than very very expensive and boy. They are upfront here. The experts who and And CDs. CDC They're all. They're right on target with S so. That means no loafing on the job. Keep going on this and just hope that we we get more people thinking about. Of course, we have to be very thankful for our viewers. Our audience because we've had some good friends out there doing their very best. People are wanting to hear something different. You know, but the the flu listening to the director of the of the World Health Organization. This. Is something like never before? We can never go back to normal this unprecedented well, look at this next clip. Here's here's just an article. I pulled at random. Just generally anyone can look this up. Regular old flew six hundred forty six thousand people worldwide each year, according to a study that's just year in and year out sometimes a little better, sometimes a little worse, so then this covert outbreak must be orders of magnitude worse than that if we can never go back to being normal, so let's look how much covert has killed Oh. Oh. It's almost exactly the same as a normal flu, six, hundred, fifty, three, thousand, four, hundred, twenty, four, as of this morning killed. So how can he get away with saying? We can never be normal again. This is unprecedented when it when it's basically just a standard flu outbreak tragic terrible for those families. Unfortunately, it happens every year. That's just how it is, and it looks like they're going to continue because I do believe it matter of fact, they may even some of them. They probably can brainwash themselves and talking to them into doing. The Lord's work. Yes, I really believe this, and and they hear too many other people. Everybody agrees it must be true, so their job is just to promote it, and of course some no, no better, and and and that that is really disgusting part about it, but there was another thing related to this the defense health agency send. A notice hit was on Saturday by by mistake. They Sana six hundred thousand You notices to their I guess. Military, but it actually. Humana runs it for try care, so it's it's government and you know it's the insiders doing it, but You'd wonder how how's that is? Is This just plain stupidity? Does it enhance their position any, but it tells you how easy it is to I. Don't think you know now that he admitted it. You know most people. A lot of people are going to read a headline, and they're not going to see the retraction is. This really really serious, but what we writing. They were asking these people. We know you've had the virus, but it's okay if you still want to donate blood. It was totally absurd and yet I'm afraid When San's official, there's a lot of people who will just increase their anxieties and support for what they're trying to do, and they get angry at people who? Don't capitulate and say if we don't all wear a mask too bad and every place. In the world is going to come to an end, so I'll know when this is over when everybody can go out, doors and play play baseball without and the in that one group that was maced. They were having a picnic picnic. Semi comes over and just just anger I. Had even, if even half truth that maybe somebody did have it. Would which she did isn't going to help her. Why doesn't she go home? If she's unhappy out there and can't stand people to be so relaxed it. They're having a picnic in this crisis. Time boy, we were driving of the day, and someone was driving all over the road. They almost hit our car and I looked over. Of course there's the mass probably was having Hypoxia, but you know last week at this time. It seems like only a week ago because it was the big thing was the sun belt spike. With all my Gosh, we've got to cut Texas. We gotta shut it down again. governor Abbot was on the verge of shutting it down again at the behest of people like Lena Hidalgo, and Harris County and the others all of a sudden. There's something interesting happening in the Sun Belt Spike. Let's look at this next one. This is from this morning. Dr Paul there was definitely a peek. At least at this point, mid July. It is steadily going down daily new cases, even new cases interesting now it's going down in Florida. After trump said we're GONNA. Cancel the Republican convention. Right so that makes you wonder now it's okay. Let's do the next one because we should go through Arizona's hospitalization and new cases way down since a peak in early. July remember. That was a nightmare scenario. It was terrible. Let's look at our own. Republic of Texas. Daily new cases will use their terms daily cases. Going, down peak, mid-july in this is the the ramping up that we talked about where everyone was classified as covert. Even that is going down. Let's look in a couple of things closer to home here. Here's the EPA curve cases overtime in Harris County. Lena dog goes digs a. what's Lena going to do now? The EPA curve is going way down. She's GonNa have to do something else and one more Dr. Paul. Because we followed. The Texas hospitalizations is very important. This is the Texas Medical Center in Houston and here. Are there hospitalizations their daily covid nineteen hospitalization the seven day trend down down down everywhere, but that is. Is Not discouraging governors from getting even more to radical. Let's look at the next one from our friend Thomas Massey whose everyone should read 'cause they're. They're also very interesting and humorous Kentucky. Look at the look at the Chart Kentucky is down zero zero deaths per million almost and here's Thomas Massie. Kentucky's governor is proposing more lockdowns, but can this curve get any flatter? Two thirds of these deaths are from within nursing homes Kentucky's unemployment is above forty percent. The governor should work on flattening that curve. Unbelievable. You know. The They must have good health habits. There are better than anybody. They must not be falling the governor his cronies. Liberals on away. You have to do Independent on all this regulation and all, but if If? If T T thomas maybe. They're falling Thomas. Lot of leadership, you know we did much better in the election and people. Yeah, so he's He's sort of one of these people that knowing him I'll bet. He knows by Vitamin D. A little home-care this so maybe but. That might be reflection that people people are that way. This might be very good news more than just for Kentucky. Maybe this is cinnamon. Spray it because. They the the noise from the bureaucrats and the politicians makes they're still on the top curve. But the truth will set in, and that's when more and more people are going to just chuck their masks. And now people are getting a little firmer and saying you know asking the right question. Where's the wall? That tells you do. This is a law. The governor's can't write law. Mayors can't write laws, but they can intimidate you know one thing is really disgusting. Even a mayor has a lot of power and city have a lot of power, because there's this thing which is unlimited -Tarian is the licensing. You know you have to have a license to do everything, and so they say all right your hairdresser. If you don't do what we say, we're GONNA. Take your license away. What you really need a license to have A. Bar, burt. Matter. Of fact, the Libertarian, the good libertarian can make the case for the medical licensors is not being very freedom oriented and and actually. I think people will say you don't care about your patient. No I would say that medical profession in the Ama and he's other. They're not very good at protecting You know free market, medicine or medicine in general. That's true. Well, you talk about mass whether masks work. Friends zero heads. They've been pretty hysterical at times. About the Kobe thing I have to say, but we do continue to read. Then we try to get through it but today. The big thing was Hong Kong. Oh, my Gosh! Just a huge spike in Hong. Kong, they got to shut the whole place down. There was no news about the sun belt because it's doing better now. It's Oh my gosh. Hong Kong, some looking at it. What's going on and must be terrible? Two people died one in the nineties and one in the seventies, and they're talking about shutting it down, but here's the other question that it brings up about masks because people in Hong Kong. There is a an increase in cases in Hong Kong. That is for sure you can look at the chart, but the real question is hold on a minute. Ninety nine percent of people in Hong Kong where masks. They were happy wearing masks. In fact, just in May vox DOT COM wrote an. An article about what a great success Hong Kong was because everyone wore the mask and they suppress suppressed the virus in Hong Kong nearly everyone wears a face mask in public. When almost as soon as the outbreak, I began millions of residents started wearing masks in public. One local said the government have to say anything. Before ninety nine percent of the population put them on. Experts now say the widespread mask used appears to be a major reason why the city hasn't been devastated by the disease. That was in May. They continue to whether mask and guess what. The the the cases are going up anyway so mass they work. No, they delay the inevitable, which is a virus spreading through society, but they may work for the people who are really excited about having because chaos is a goal of some, and they're not actually concerned about the health of the people, and it works in that sense, they accomplish what their goal is, and what what other? What other industry has done well they've got a lot of money, and they were trying to prepare and have the perfect vaccine and And yet most people right now. Don't believe the vaccine is going to be able maybe next year or so, and but even if they by that time you know the corona. Nineteen, that's probably going to be gone, but that's why they you always hear. There could be more could be more, so we have to be prepared and I. Think they'd be very discouraged. If if everybody decided the hydroxy chloride taken as a preventive or very early on at a very nominal price would solve the problem boy. Where's the interest it that is so disgusting. Things been. It's been around for sixty five years and there's a lot of drugs. Fortunately, we have moved away from prescription for some of the common things. I remember the first prescription. I ever wrote out of medical school was hundred cream. By by the gallons now. Did it, it got out so this this is the whole thing. People people can figure this out and they they will want to run and control and have this power, but ultimately you know common sense should overrule, and we get bits and pieces and glimpse of what it's like and things do get better, but right now. Our major hurdle now is the hysteria that is persisting in many places getting worse at the time. We're getting better. Numbers of people who are waking up and say hey, this whole reaction may be a hoax. It didn't didn't need this, and it's actually made things worse and they're not following the hippocratic oath. Supposed to remember. I do no harm I would say that they haven't accomplished at at all. They've done a lot of a lot of harm. Well now with with with the cases even going down in the sun belt and other places, the question that we would have is what are the petty tyrants going to do next? What are they gonNA. Start claiming next well I think I may have found doctor. Paul the answer to that, and let's look at that next clip. Going to go to war against. But on that clip, please. Chicken Wings Governor. Cuomo of New York is furious because he doesn't want bars to be allowed open. Because apparently you can catch corona in a bar having a drink, but you can't catch it having a meal, so some of these bars are offering some food. Saying Hey, we're not a bar. We got some food food and drink. He said no way you can't. Chicken wings are not food. How dare you and that's not even in the here's another tyrant over on the West Coast Governor Newsom. Let's look at the next the next clip. Beware the Kobe. This is from the The Daily Mail beware. The Cove Menu Police California cracks down on outdoor restaurants with new rule that requires customers to order a meal with alcohol. And wings she sticks Calamari and fries are not meal so corona will only get you if you're having a drink and not a meal. There's The answer from the BR Trust. The science is what they say. Here's the science you know there's a there's some good chicken wings in in Houston that they're not crackdown on. I just want to remind everyone that we're going to have our thanks to our super chatters after this. We're GONNA. Roll their names of people over the past week. Who donated in the super chat goes on during the show. It's kind of a Neat Coffee Club. That happens, and we appreciate you very much and keep the show alive and keeping US expanding. If you're not subscribed, please subscribe to our channel and hit notification, so you'll know when the shows are up. In finally docked Apollo would say people who want to find a way to break this tyranny, a good suggestion would be if you don't WanNa wear masks. Don't wear one. You know because that's how it stops when you start seeing people without masks on more and more people and I thought it happened in the grocery store. People will look me without one, and they'll pull those down. This is the only way we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Defeat this and everyone has to do of course what they think is right. That's not necessarily right for everyone, but for some people it might be the way to go, but anyway thanks very much. Thank you for all the super chatters last week for keeping US going. And hopefully we'll be able to continue Dr Paul Good, I have a member of my family. is a public school teacher and. She just told me yesterday that they will be opening school on the right time, but the first three weeks we'll be remote in a computer, but after three weeks they think everything will be ready and we all go into classroom. That's a little bit of a hand. At least they're moving in that direction, but you. You can just imagine the atmosphere in Houston Harris County is the greatest that you know. They're still going to be a lot of restrictions and a lot a lot of checking and Regulations that you'll have to follow. They'll probably be distancing and mass in different places, but anyway it looks like some of these schools will open up but I think. I think there'll be more what happened. With Walmart. You know the story about Walmart. They say every Walmart store. Everybody wears a mask. All customers works there boy and that was. That was really horrible lasted for three days. And guess what the Marcus spoke and they said they were they didn't want to have. It was disgusting, so Walmart admitted it no. No nobody follows us in. How do you enforce it? So that was You know a little bit of disobedience, but the violent type. So that's that's what we need, but no the answer to all this whether it's the master distancing corn teens. It's almost always can be. worked out with a voluntarism anytime. Two people come together or two groups that it is done in a voluntary manner. Both sides have to agree. That's why markets works so well. It used to be an economic that one person. If there was a economic transaction, one person would benefit in the other person said was injured. It's not true if his voluntarism somebody wants to exchange this for that and they do it both sides. Sides are happy, and that's the way it should be. In social matters to that's the way it should be with religious matter and sexual matters and everything else rather than having these bureaucrats writing all the rules and changing our language is changing biological definitions where nobody knows I mean it be tough to go to medical school these days in trying to fear well, I go to be gynecologist, or what am I going to be? To be open, minded well I'll tell you it's it's It is a mass, but this hope that we're moving in the right direction with the information. We give you and once again I. Want to thank everybody for being supportive and coming to our program and please come back soon.
Coronavirus 'Contact Tracers' - The Tools Of Dictatorship
"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into Liberty Report with me today. Is You'll make atoms are co host and Daniel. Good to see you have your this morning. Dr Paul Doing Well. Good good so we'll get back to work again trying to persuade a few people to come to their senses. Yeah that's one at a time when prisoners timed madness goes as in crowds but returning to sensibility insane. This is one of the time. I hope we reach more than one person today. Also lost to talk about today but I thought it would start off with this whole whole thing of tracing and follow in tracking people. Of course my reaction was tracking tracking. Is something that dictators do. We don't live in a dictatorship but we're having a hard time convincing our friends that we don't live in a dictatorship because we're certainly using a lot of I think the only the only saving grace for us so far has frequently been. Governments are so inept incapable of achieving. What they're supposed to be doing and the programs fail like the welfare system fails the wars. They always lose but then again again that can be negative because that just gives them an incentive to do it more if five thousand people couldn't track people in Houston will get ten thousand people to track everybody who say just add onto it and I I'm thinking about Houston because Houston hasn't been such a good example on trying to resist the authoritarians coming in tracking so We have county judge up in in. Houston that's determined to impose these things. It sounds like she's on Bill Gates Payroll. This is the this is the gate to position tracking people. It's all it's all for their health. Also you know to take care of make sure people get sick and stop the disease and I do think it has something to do with health. It's the health of the state in. And how do you protect the health status? According to born is you have to start a war. Wars the health of the state and Certainly You know when the real war start. They lie through their teeth in further along. You go whether it was Vietnam or the Middle East. The further along the worse go to more. They have to lie and people still you know. Unfortunately I are persuaded by that until it's finally sometimes too late but now it's the war against the virus and they those terms they like the term war and now if they get a vaccine they want the military to come along and inject you think that's intimidating and what is the penalty. If you don't take the shots all this so I I hope our side hurries up and reaches a lot more people because we report on a daily basis so many people are standing up and saying enough is enough. We I get incensed really when I think that they show these the these pictures of almost patriotic zeal about a sadie him that his empty. You can't even watch baseball game. Well we're we're their brain. What do they care about? And yet the people are standing up and I think it's probably torn to there because most Americans have been taught to believe in law and order and respect. And you know you don't take on your government but when when you feel when will you feel responsibility on challenging the government with authority and approach to all our lives and this this war on on Corona virus and is just just out of control and this tracking though is something else I guess they know? What kind of scientific instruments they're going to use and they have to have a lot of technology for this but it's all done for humanitarian reasons. It couldn't be done. For the special interests of a few of a few people for humanitarian reasons. All wars are fought for humanitarian reasons. And that of course is just lie and hopefully some of their failures that we can expose could make people skeptical. We had to get this disconnect. Because if you do a flat question to the people in this country about trusting government government comes out very poor sixty seven percent sometimes at the seventy percent. They don't believe what the government tells them and yet they seem to roll over when they're scared. Yeah that's how they can reverse scare build up the fear and do and listen to bureaucrats and listen to the foul Bill Gates's of the world and then blame trump for everything. He needs to blame for some things. But not everything you know so it is a shame but this this whole thing about tracking everybody is just beyond the Pale. It's very dangerous. You know. Think of it as a national. Id on steroids. And they're loving it. Lena dog'll you mentioned the judge in Harris County. She says she's going to have an army of contract tracers. They're being hired. Guess where they're getting the money the cares act. The Disaster Act are going to hire all these people who were out a work out of work because of their stupid policies are shutting down the country. Here's what Lena says. The goal is to isolate those people who have been exposed to the disease to contain the spread of the virus. So this is what it's all about. It's about going door to door. It's about forcing you to get tested. Voluntary. But you can't go out of your house if you don't force you get tested and then force you to tell the them everyone you've had contact with and they will go to those people who you've had contact with and get information on who they've had contact with and then they can tell you have to quarantine you have to isolate and one of the goals. According to the zone websites is to go in daily ultimately and check up on people and find out if they're still quarantined. Find out if they're still hiding in sadly enough governor Abbot. He's not on our good lists lately. He's done okay things in the past but he had a press conference. Yesterday was very weak opening. You can open your your bar at twenty five percents Pasadena and you gotta wait another week. A lot of crazy things. Some new in this really weak but what another thing that he's done. He's spending a third of a Billion Dollars. Hiring this company MT X. Group to grow in manage a large fleet of contact tracers twenty seven month contract right. They're here for the long haul. Two Year contract four thousand tracers going around Texas They're going to have higher by the end of. May then want to trace down your close contacts of those people who were infected monitor them and quarantine them if necessary all of this in the context of an outbreak of a virus. That as a lot of people who weren't hysterical predicted is gonNA come and go like all viruses and we actually if we can just look at those first couple of slides because this is daily new deaths in the. Us is follow that curve. The virus is reaching the end of shelf life as they always do. Now let's take a look at Texas as a little more complicated but here's Texas new debts and texts. You can still see that. Same Arc the same curve. Say Oh no no. We're doing this because the second wave is coming. It'll be worse than the first. That's possible because they forced everyone to stay inside and not develop their immunities but at the same time the same people who were saying we got to trace everyone because the second wave these are the same people Dr Paul who got everything so wrong in the first place millions will die run for the hills. We gotta to shut everything down. So why should we trust these same people? Who messed everything up to now? Tell us we have to do this. Of course there was a recent study just came out at verifies that the number of deaths are way over over counted with from the very beginning because of the way they measure them and the and the unethical approached assigning. A death certificate. You know no matter. What if they're if they walk into emergency room and they're just hanging on by thread to life? It looks like he could have. They don't even have to test them anymore. Just to put that down there and make those numbers go up. You know what what is impressed me up until this point is all the places that have been rated as awful lot of policemen out there. And that's what they've been doing but of course what these pros now By avid is hiring a lot. More people but they already have had a lot of police. They should be reducing the number of people because there shouldn't be as many raids on churches and things like that. They should not have to do that. But you know at the same time. They're having the police do this Policing of non violent people just Believing that they have the right to assemble have the right to their constitutional position at the same time. They're releasing some of the most vicious criminals released criminals and they maybe should be washing them. And how many stories have we heard where they've been released and rested within minutes or committed another crime and they get released again? Yeah because You wouldn't ask one have to ask you know to have bail or anything like that. You just let them go but please. Aren't there for that purpose. Released the bad guys. Don't police him the please. And this I frequently may disappoint with nine eleven. You know we had to deal with the enemy and we had the passes law so we had. We had the Patriot. Act And who's the enemies? It was it turned out to be American people people in this. This is again what we're doing now. See American people who are being surveilled and and and treated this way and Evidently they believe that the average American person that likes liberty has caused all this problem and the other thing that I hope to keep keep reading about all the past episode even one hundred years. How many times? We've had endemic worse than this. And they weren't even in the News Harley and nobody remembers them in my lifetime. They're popping you know I don't remember that one thousand nine hundred seventy five and also then fifty seven ninety eight. There was a lot of flu death more than we have now. But no this this To make it. It's it's pretty amazing to me That they were able to orchestrate this in a worldwide fashion you know and that's why they need international organization like CDC and Otherwise because in the past it was never really really bad epidemics were because people knew it but this is not what we're looking at. We're looking at something. That is much less than a lot of the epidemics before when people didn't have to put up with the real enemy turns out to be our own government and you mentioned the previous epidemics. We've had previous pandemics. I think it was Jeff Tucker but someone like Jeff Tucker did a piece recently saying we had a one hundred thousand people died in a big epidemic pandemic in nineteen sixty nine. That was the year they held woodstock. All these hundred thousand kids. We're all together. Doing God knows what but this is what happened in the previous but the other thing about the contact tracers. This is the thing that really is pretty disgusting. It does remind you a little bit of the post nine eleven era where we did lose a lot of jobs because the panic of the terrorist attack. The economy was tank for quite a while. So what did they do? They passed the created Homeland Security and then created the TSA so they hired a lot of people whose livelihoods have been destroyed to. Go ahead and do all kinds of things at the airport to us. Of course they never caught terrorists. They can't catch terrorists but they can sure messes up. It's the same thing is happening now. There are thousands and thousands of people put out of work here in Texas. Thanks to people like Governor Abbot. Who Shut everything down without thinking twice. And now they're getting pretty restless and so he's going to hire them to go around like the Stasi snooping on people. Let me have some of your blood. We need to test you somehow. Dr Paul and I monitor some of the groups out there in Texas groups. Texas people aren't gonNA take very kindly to having someone knock on their door saying we need somebody your blood you need to swap you and it's not gonna it's not GonNa end well so you have faith and competency. Texas people are going to wake up the real Texans but you know the other thing about this tracking is identification doing what to do on and knowing and having an identification where we can tell they can tell whether we go in our house. Our House down the street or whatever. That's what they want but they they suggest that one of the consequence likely will be is why are they doing well to dictate to them to whom to where you can go to socialize with so if so and so is a suspect that might have someday had a positive test or something you cannot go there and they they have to have a list like that and then? I I think it was. One of the governors are something that certain wasn't on our side they. It's always done in the name of good health care about the people's health. That's the only reason they WANNA put restrictions on us and not let anybody. Watch BASEBALL GAME AGAIN. Because we want to protect their health. It's not happening. There's some serious complications from this shutdown that we haven't heard a lot of people are suffering Mentally physically socially as all consequence of this overkill. Which is trying to disappear. You know is it. Looks like it's going to go away. We are working on this on this vaccine. The vaccine may be ready by the what they're GONNA do is they're going to get ready. It reminds you one thousand nine hundred seventy six. Hurry HURRY UP. And just give them a vaccine. It has even if it doesn't work just vaccine until the election's over something you know that to me is criminal even said it might not not only might not work. It may actually make the virus stronger. Thanks a lot but you know the mentioned. This is something that was on zero hedge a few days ago this idea of creating social bubbles which would be a creation of a small group of people that you're allowed to associate with and they will use smartphone. Apps to track and trace people who violate so you have maybe ten people that you're okay to be with. You can have over your house. What have you and if you violate that they come down on you. And this is how they're using technology to create kind of a virtual gulag but you know there was a Bloomberg report today which is really important and really fascinating and basically it negates everything. We've talked about so far. There was a Korean Center for disease. Control study they studied two hundred eighty five survivors of covert nineteen. They had the disease symptomatic survivors of it and they tested positive after recovering. Because remember the big scares. You're going to get it again. We got we got a trace. Everyone track everyone because you could get it again. What they found something very different that after recovery. Even if you test positive you're not infectious. The only thing that these survivors are doing is they're shedding dead virus so it really undermines negates everything that they're trying to do but they're desperate to use this. As an excuse to clamp down you know they're hoping to get this vaccine real soon maybe by the end of the year after the pandemic is Disappear but they will still want to vaccinate people and make plans for the next one. That doesn't bother them if it's good for mark but we want to protect you from this ever happening again. And at at the initial Distribution of the vaccine is a big job you know they. They had to close the system down in. Some people had higher priorities to protect their liberties and I see Walmart may billions of dollars in the LAC dot. How many shops? If we've seen go broke just around here. So if if they close things down for political reasons and protected some of the powerful interest what about the vaccine or the stamp of approval so that will be political to they. Can't they can't vaccinate everybody at one time so that will be political and that will be certain people that they wanNA protect and give that stamp of approval but my perdition is faust. How she is not going to take a vaccination. He is not going to do it so those individuals oughta sense. Standup anybody's involved. In giving somebody else the vaccination they ought to show their papers that they that they really believe in this stuff and that would be a lot of politicians to and I worry about it because trump said well there may be some people who may not want to take the vaccine which ambiguous because if the military comes at your door And they want to give you a vaccine. It's going to be tough. There's a couple of other quick topics we wanted to touch on one of them. Because we want to keep covering the kind of resistance these really fascinating battles of in states where there are areas that are resisting the tyranny of really evil governors. We have the next clip here. This is something interesting this happening in. Oregon. My my brother lives in Oregon. And he's in locked down and so governor. Kate Brown said you know what I want to go ahead and extend the lockdown through July it. Keep that up through July and there were a group of churches. Said you can't do that. The law says you can only do this for twenty eight days without permission from the legislature. She I don't. I'm going to do it anyway. They took her to court and out in eastern Oregon. Dr Paul is Pretty Conservative out there lauder ranchers and there was a judge a local judge out there that ruled in their favor that she did not have the authority while she had a panic attack and she immediately went to the State Supreme Court. We have the next slide and this is. I think just happened today. They temporarily reinstated her restrictions. But the battle isn't over the battle going on and we talked about. Wisconsin had a similar thing. There are other things going on North Carolina. The court overruled the governor restricting people's ability to go to church. So it's happening everywhere. They're using the courts. They're suing their undermining these dictatorial governor. So that's kind of a good news story. Yeah it is and when we see resistance building this is the only thing that can really save us from this thing. Just really snowballing. We're moving in the wrong direction is hard to reverse things once it happened. The what are the odds of if I were in Congress again. Heaven Forbid I a bill grid the TSA. Like I used to but who cares? Oh well no. We have to be safe now. They don't even have an airplane to fly. They're willing to go through the lines. One step after after another. So this is. This is a big turning point where we are and if we don't have a lot more people saying I have rights on an individuals. I Have First Amendment Rights when finished my last tour duty and just try to describe the situation. Actually I placed my first amendment rights above the rest. Not that not that you deny the second and all the other member. But I thought if you can't speak out and I guess getting more difficult now because we've mixed some of these Private social networks with the government and there. They are the sensors now. And Have you noticed that I'm not supposed to ask you a question. Have you noticed when On on our websites different websites and I think a look at that video. Oh suddenly disappeared. Yeah so that's why I keep hoping. All those smart Libertarian. Computer people will devise something that will provide us the service of Youtube no censorship not doing the role of the state. We touched on this earlier. Dr Paul and it's worth bringing up again. Here's another trend that we're watching closely. We both saw an article in the Illinois Review. I think it was up today where Illinois dramatically over counting the corona virus that Covet nineteen deaths It's also happening in Michigan. Medical Examiners are upset. They're using the wrong definition. They're following with. Dr Burks said quote if someone does with Colvin Nineteen. We're counting it as a covered nineteen death and that's not accurate in it's not appropriate and we've actually. I don't think we've put this up before but this last one. I think this is what happened in Colorado twenty five percent too high because they started differentiating between dying with Colvin nineteen and dying from Colvin Nineteen. So if you extrapolate twenty five percent over count to the rest of the country still obviously a terrible flu season. But why are they trying to elevate these numbers so desperately you have to have an enemy to have an enemy not not too much in science but this is this is a real problem because of these numbers. What if we could assume that Next year the total. They said it's GonNa well. They had millions before this say well. It looks like war ended up with one hundred. Sixteen thousand deaths I think it was in this country in nineteen Nineteen sixty eight. I believe But what if what if these estimates turn out that at the end next six eight months from now? The deaths are one half of what they're telling in there was really you know all they do. Is They go back? And they say you supposed to diagnose you're supposed to diagnose something How many autopsies were run. We don't do how many how many of these patients had other drugs. We don't do that either. How many people were actually culture? I mean people were to you'll find out that That there's nothing like this so it has. It has to be a scare tactic. It's being used. It's the same type of operation that the warmongers do when they wanna go to war around the world and believe me as we speak. Some of that activity is going on now. People have pre prepared. You know the Chinese are at fault completely or the Chinese are angels. No I wrote the other day that people say you can't trust the Chinese. They're always telling lies and they have this special interest. I don't know all the details of that but I do know something about our CIA and if you say that you can believe everything the CIA tells you then. We really do have a problem. I bet the Kennedy family. They wouldn't agree with that. Yeah we know the as you say when when all the smoke clears and it turns out. They have to revise way way way down. Don't expect them to say we're sorry they're GONNA don't blame us. We were just trying to as you say. Keep you safe. In the meantime we may find out that there may be as many or more that have died as a consequence of the shutdown. I personally don't know who anyone who's died from corona virus. I do know some some things about suicide. Some people have had some serious medical conditions. That have come up. That are life threatening because their doctors said we can't treat you. We've read about that. We know personally So these kinds things are coming up over and over and over and you'll never you'll never have to answer for it. They've never have to answer. You Know Texas in two thousand eighteen had ten thousand flu deaths in the Houston Chronicle. You can see the headline. We've had just over ten percent of that this year. We've seen a massive lockdown. Can't go to the hospital can't get your treatments can't go to stores shutdown restaurants It's a disaster. Occurs is statistics that will come out. Because I personally know and it's a pretty close to home people who didn't get proper medical care early on and it conditions deteriorated and we've mentioned before you know. They disrupted everything how many people really allies were saved with those two. Large military vessels They had one in West in California and they had eighteen people show up in hospitals were empty and they were firing not firing laying off people because nobody would come. They terrorized everybody about going in. I mean it's it's it's people will worry about the virus but you know what a lot of people worry about is. Is the bureaucracy coming in pestering you to death? You know. We got to take this test this test this test and check your family and everything else. It's that intimidation that really makes people frightened about trying to live a normal life. So the people really. I wish I could do something more to try to alert people to what's going on and I argue is should not that complicated people. People should cherish their liberties and cherish their responsibility to take care of themselves and not trust politicians. You know if you if you don't like what a couple people were doing. Why put them in government put out she in charge of all this? This is what we get. Dr Paul thankfully our our numbers are growing. And we're grateful that people are turning to us. It makes us want to work all the much harder early in the morning. Trying to figure out and put a show together every day but we want to keep in touch. Dr Paul. Mentions we talk about a lot. There's a lot of censorship don't want to entertain opinions that conflict with their narratives especially those that are pounded in their head by the mainstream media. So if you do WANNA follow us in a in a closer way. Go to the Ron Paul Institute website Ron Paul Institute dot Org and then just go and subscribe or better slash subscribe subscribe to our updates of course will never give out your personal information But we'll update you on things that are happening. The possibility of even having a conference who dot ball in the future at all but these kinds of things. We want to keep in touch so. That's a good way to do it. Dr Paul Good and I wind just closed by comment about tracking because I think tracking is a real issue has been around in history for a long long time. But it's always a tool dictators so you can't take a society that pretends they protect individual liberty and introduce the notion that the government has to track you because they want to take good care of your health and make you make you save and right away. That's a danger point and that is what's happening. They they do the they do the tracking and they do this with a dictatorship and the no matter what war that the bureaucrats WanNa fight and authoritarian. WanNa fight whether it's military type or the social type. It's always a war because if you're against war you're unpatriotic why is it that piece people people who have no peace are more likely to be labeled anti-american you unpatriotic and a main nasty person? I mean that that has to change and it hasn't been that way all the time and those issues are always split people in two different directions but I still believe that. There's a lot of people out there that would agree with and say yes. I'd like to have my life back. I'm sort of hoping that this little episode. We've had with current a virus. Wake up people and say. Why are we doing this? It doesn't help us. We're losing our liberties it didn't save lives. And I think there fee feeding us a lot of nonsense and that's why these statistics are important. They lie to about how many people have died from it and later on these figures will get much worse they lie to you and said Oh. Yeah those numbers are getting better. But next month there's going to be a new virus. We have to come to the point where we shouldn't be intimidated with any whisper of fear and because fears always promises are always going to exist but you have to ask the question. Three individuals Handle these problems better than government bureaucrats who have special interests who become powerful because they lie to the people so. I don't think the problem should be that that overwhelming I think the founders had it right the dictatorship they were living under. They didn't like they tried to give us a republic but unfortunately there's not much left of it but as long as we can speak out and change people's minds one person at a time which were still able to do. We have to do it. And that's where we have to concentrate our efforts in trying to persuade people that liberty is far superior to the authoritarian principles of abuse of our lives. What thank everybody for tuning in today to delivery report? Please come back soon.
Iraq 'Pull-Out' Letter: Mistake...Or More Deception?
"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into the Liberty Report with me today as Daniel make atoms are co host Daniel. Good to see you. How are you this morning? Dr Paul Good Talk Talk about Iraq who is in the news and that's what People WanNa hear about and we're looking around and so we find all the information so we can figure out what they're doing. It's not all that easy but a significant event occurred yesterday after you know a couple of days after the killing and that is that there was a letter circulating that said that the American government is planning to leave. Baghdad leave Iraq then all of a sudden they said it was released by the commander her US commander in Iraq and it said that we were laying plans for this but it was quickly You know denied by the officials because I would have sounded like surrender capitulation and you know the parliaments as you guys off leave and we're going to leave and and that wasn't to be true but figuring out why why they did it. I mean the letter was significant. We heard two or three interpretations. We've been told that it was. It was a Just a draft of a letter in preparation for US leaving and quite frankly. I believe there's a lot of deception going on and we haven't figured good out of what their plans on. And you know Daniel one thing as possible as maybe. We can't figure out exactly what they're planning because they might not know even what they're planning because it goes back and forth and maybe it changes from minute to minute and there are a lot of questions coming up now when you think about Russia and Putin getting involved in peace negotiations negotiations and all these other things more threats there on again only end but more specifically talk a little bit about how something like this. This letter came up. I have a little trouble bleeding believing that it's just an accident and and this is this is a big deal if if you know mistakenly released by accident or something that means they have no control whatsoever. So that's the reason that You know it's not exactly a false flag but it's false information and deliberate deception and maybe to settle things down and say well we're not ready to send in the truths we're ready to negotiate and talk about you know getting out and maybe if we up the bribes to different people We can convert or not people interact to put up with us for a long time after thirteen years. I think we're very close to admitting defeat. Just like we had to admit defeat in Iraq and move out of there so There's a lot of things that can happen in a few days and it can change immediately. I listened to Pompeii or this morning and his press conference Auburn. But I couldn't stand it because it was all just pompous talking and I was looking for a hand from him but it was. There was no reassurance reassurance. There was no understanding. No real information. It was all pure deceptive propaganda about how wonderful we are and why we're seeking impeach. We kill people because we want peace and not war. Yeah it is. It's a strange mystery and on the surfaces almost a mess up or something but if you really we stopped think about it. It's very very suspicious. The whole thing and so I wanted to go back and kind of put together what we know about it because you know how these things are often scrubbed from the media first of all. Here's something I was told from. Someone who's an insider that there really is a fight inside the White House administration the trump's for leaving but a mil- ESPN POMPEII or stonewalling him. So for what what it's worth but here's what we do know the. US is suspended. ITS ANTI ISIS training mission to Iraq I would say indefinitely suspending this mission. That's the only reason they were. They were in Iraq. Remember there's no status-of-forces agreement with Iraq. It was simply an arrangement made by the Iraqi government with the US government please come in in were overrun with Isis. We need some help fighting them. And this is the only basis so if you suspend that mission there is no basis to keep US troops in there and I I think a lot of Americans don't understand that they were there because we've always been there but then you have the Pentagon saying we're committed to the mission which descending completely mixed signals because the Pentagon cancelled that mission in Isis defeated. So what is the purpose of us being there were there because we're there so that brings things uh of why released a letter. What is the letter? And I'M GONNA go into some details later but just throw it out there. One day the Iraqi parliament votes votes to end the mission and to ask the United States and all foreign forces to leave a soil the next day or a day and a half here and there. This letter leaks from the US general in charge of of Iraq the Iraq mission in. It's a bizarre letter. It's unsigned I'll read a little bit of it sir. In due you death threats to the sovereignty of the Republic of Iraq and as requested by the Iraqi parliament. Prime Minister we will be repositioning forces over the course of the coming in days and weeks to prepare for Onward Movement etc etc some details we will take measures to minimize disturbance ribbons to the public as we begin implementing the next phase of operations I want to reiterate the value of our friendship and partnership we respect your sovereign decision to order our or departure very suspicious sounding. Don't think absolutely. I think the deception is very strong. That is a word we probably have described accurately but the report also has been removed hundreds or they plan to immediately remove hundreds of our people out of Baghdad and at the same time. We're not leaving and if you think we're going to have to pay US building this building or building the embassy but Now it's back and forth the sanctions on Iraq. Something Super Super Sanction. We spent all this time always does money. A thousand American lives are maybe more and many thousands of Iraqis and others that were killed on this and all of a sudden we deliver literally only deliver politically the Iraq system over to Iran. Yeah and Now we're fighting them and fighting to get us there. They sometimes when I make statements that this is just. They're really really ridiculous. I don't know what they're doing in others will correct me at Tom. I'M GONNA say they know exactly what they're doing. Chaos is good for them. Sometimes but I think that they don't always know what they're doing other within the fact that they know what they don't want they don't want a free society and they don't want us to be a nonintervention society and I know they want to support the military industrial complex complex so we can rule out a lot of things that they claim. They're sincere about the most ridiculous of course. Is this idea. We had to kill them it because we wanted to prevent a war. Sure somebody somebody is going to believe that. Today when they were interviewing palm peyot he. He asked the reporters. How many people in here believe the solemn I saw me was on a peace mission? You know he could have been. We don't know for sure. But this whole idea that they know absolutely that they're Hitler and the and then Zarifa courses a hitherto. They won't even let him go to the United Nations. I mean they were moving back to an uncivilized society as long as we're in there but we're struggling to maintain in our empire and I think we're on the defensive on on defending the empire. Yeah and on the defensive. I think because this is such a bizarre story this the letter. And here's a couple of things here's what we do and also some things we do know about it and some of this is according to a good article in the dispatch that that sort of broke it down. At least. This is the time line that that that I've seen first of all the story of this withdrawal letter broke on the TV channel of an Iraqi militia group. we say in Iran backed Iraqi rocky M- militia group the A H that group is on the. US terror list. Apparently it was leaked to them by the Iraqi Prime Minister's his office. And they publicized it from there. It quickly like wildfire ran through the US news media and became a huge story here origins being in the Iraqi Prime Minister's office then the US military was sent scrambling what is going on. What is they had no answer? At first it was a weird letter. It was unsigned. It had some unusual grammatical errors so the question is what happened. What really happened happened with this letter? And we'll never know but I have a couple of scenarios I will bring up. If you'll indulge me for a second. Dr Paul. First of all members can talk. Maybe it was leaked by some. US A group. Maybe some neo cons. Maybe some people in the military affiliated with neo cons to make trump look bad here. He is talking tough fe. You'RE GONNA pay us. We're going to sanction. Can you and then behind the scenes. He is sending a letter saying we're going to withdraw. We respect your sovereignty that's one could be fabricated by Iraq Iran. Dan To make the US look bad here. Look they're running their tail between their legs that's possible could be fabricated by Israel or even the Saudis forced to denial. Denial denial on record. No we're not pulling out. We're not pulling out. That's a possibility as you suggested in your opening points could be a monumental foul of makes you wonder under about about operational security of something like this what would have to be classified drops out in and a s percent at first we just don't know. Oh you know. And then millie the chairman of the joint chiefs later said in. This is the weirdest part. The letter is a draft. It was a mistake. It was unsigned. It should not what have been released or if that's the case who released it. And why would you release a draft of a letter so inaccurate as you claim. Why would you give that to the Iraqi you prime minister? Hey here's a letter that says the opposite of what we're GONNA do. What do you think about it? You know so nothing. Nothing adds up in this and I hate to but my head is about to explode well while we do know that the Russians don't sit idly by they pay a lot of attention. They've invested a lot there in the neighborhood and they are just just coming off a relatively successful event in Syria in in in many ways you know we lost. Syria seems seems. Except we're clinging to a few oil wells that we're going to pay for our pay for our troubles but I think Putin is no dumbbell and now he's talking about bringing these people together he he really is talking peace and people. Would you know the neo concerts. There you go shop and you know how how the Liberals Hate Putin to looking looking. How hate they directed him because they had to mix them up with With trump so this is the whole thing but if you if you can sit back and sit and just to analyze is Putin has come out pretty well. And he doesn't what does he have. Whoa one aircraft carrier so he doesn't come out and he's not bombastic because he really doesn't have it but he's been able to do that now he's talking about bringing these factions together together and we've delivered it to him on a platter here? We used to have a lot of problems there that we created all along nattiest with Saddam. Hussein you know. He was a minority soon and he was militant and a rubles iron fist. But there wasn't the chaos in the Middle East either so we finally said well. It's in our interests we have to get rid of him and So with majority they become close allies with her amazing whatever predicted. They're they're the harsh. Oh Putin's involed. He's identified of course with with the opposition in. Maybe maybe he's is old enough to remember what happened in nineteen eighty nine when They had a seventy nine. I guess it was when they had to win win. They Soviets declared the A I lost victory with with Iran in. What's interesting is the actually that you mentioned Putin? Because he made a surprise visit to Damascus. Gut's today in meetings with the sod and you have to wonder and of course we'll be accused of being on the payroll and where's my check right but but just looking at it analytically. You don't have to you know. Take any side but he comes in just like he did in two thousand fifteen ironically sola money johnny is the one who gave him the strategy to feed Isis. He comes in in a mess like this where he sees war on the horizon. There's no benefit to Russia. If this thing blows up in the Middle East no question about it so here he does come in. Is he a peacemaker. I don't think it's because he's a peace. Nick but I think he looks at the situation more analytically you mentioned in Pompeii Pompei. Oh and pence. They lie every single sentences ally. The problem is when you base the policy off of the lies you tell it's basically garbage in garbage out you can't come up with a good policy. One all of the basis for making the policy is falls. And that's the problem that we're facing when when I hear here the two Pants in pompeo speak. I think They think that every American citizen is an idiot. And they're going join to gobble this up a lot do and it's constant it's incessant in you know it is done by the experts on TV and odd people fall in line but most of these people who fall in line that quickly you know. They can't be dependable. Finally turn against them and they they did this with look look look how negative they look on the war on Iraq and yet everybody was four with so it'd be amazing if they can accomplish this and get the people really really generating enough enthusiasm to really go back to war on Iraq. And that's what we're doing. I mean it's Iraq. Now I see see them as very close to your Iran and sanctions so all that effort and the answer is we just don't have enough sanctions on on Iraq. They were we saved. We created our country but if if people would say yes sanctions are sort of like the kind of thing you do when you're at war and if you haven't having didn't have a hot war usually creates a hot war so the way they have to have a tremendous desire to be rulers and running an empire to looked common sense of how stupid these policies are and how many lives are lost. How many American families and people suffer the consequences and how many people we have to kill Hill? One of the worst things that came were statement at era came out of this transition was when they ask Madeline Albright. Will you know that bombing in and The reporter the bombing of Syria for almost a decade that five hundred thousand children and people died from this and she dismissed it. Yeah well that's the price you have to pay them. That to me is so tragic. Yeah in Iraq. I mean we. We destroyed for for thirty years now. We've been destroying threatening it again but the thing that really is just the pricing in a way as how strong the propaganda is and as I predicted. Yesterday there was a lot of pushback to our to art art show on the assassination Sola Mani interestingly. Enough Muna van has an article up this morning where they point out that we actually were allied with Sula money there there is a wikipedia page shows that joint commanders of an operation in Afghanistan where a US general and so on so it wasn't always that way but the propaganda propaganda on the pushback is so you think it's great. You think it's terrible that we killed a guy who's responsible for the deaths of six hundred. Americans and Scott hords not libertarian. Instituted good friend of ours. He had really good blog post. He said this is an absolute lie. First of all that is blaming the Iranian Shia militia for every single American killed by these roadside bombs which is not technically. It's not capable of doing and the second thing and actually this was backed up by Matthew. Who who as we know met and he was there he said I was there? And I will tell you these were Iraqi made Iraqi manufactured in place by Iraqis Araki's. This was not an Iranian operation. So this is a propaganda lie. Just like all of the ones that they make Saddam's WMD's etc etc.. This is a propaganda lying it sticks in the minds of Americans and they WANNA use it to make us look bad to make us look like we love this guy when we just have to look at the facts so I guess I would close was by saying something to talk to. Paul said. This is all interesting but guess what withdrawals happening anyway the. US admitted that a repositioning was taking place. They gotta take. I troops out of Baghdad. Because it's no longer safe to have our military in Baghdad. That's what happened. That's the results of bad foreign policy. When you believe your own lies supposed to make us safer supposed to stop a war trump? What looks like it's starting one? We can't even have our military there and frank and they're not even wanted so as Dr Paul said in his calm yesterday is probably a good idea for them to just to listen to the Iraqi democracy bring these troops home the mission is over. There's no reason for us to be there. Why have these guys out there waiting to get killed for nothing very good Daniel? I want to finish up with another rumor. Let's going around. It's been in the news and it's frightening because I think there's still a lot of people series and that is the restoration of the draft and this is serious because once it does couple of things one it it endorses the principle. Maybe we're going to be in a hot groundwater which I keep arguing that they're not that stupid And the other thing is it's the statement that the state owns. The income tax is a statement that they they own our income and our live and they take it and lost to keep some at at their bidding. But when they say they can draft you when they need you and a certain age and discriminate discriminate and all these things that they do. I think it's a bad sign. You might say well who who would want to do that with trump when I do that and I think that trump isn't the one that's going to want to send troops and tanks and all their. He wants to talk tough in the draft. Might be a way to talk tough because he really Praises praises the military. He really gets emotional by building up the military. and He's capable of doing it but the neo cons would love. This and heat is influenced by NEO. Cons are the ones who are advising them. B B before the assassination was occurred so he he is susceptible to this so I hope that goes away but there were several articles over the weekend about maybe the draft will have to come back which would be a horrible horrible sign and I. We have have to be alert to that of course It's always possible because if we continue to do we're doing now and even as our empire weakens There's is going to be somebody in office is going to be more desperate to survive. And that is with us. Ground troops in order to maintain their empire. But we have a lot of places to go. We have we have control and and troops in hundred fifty hundred sixty countries so to cover our bases we would need a lot more personnel so so The answer of course is very easy very simple it's very constitutional and ends very moral. That is that We should have a non on interventionist's foreign policy. We should mind our own business. Take care of our country have a protection but not get involved in internal affairs of other nations and We've we have to Pay A price by People you taking away our liberties as it's been happening ever since nine eleven It's it's not gonNa work if people are going to be disgusted and they are voices. Aren't heard right now. I just don't believe this country is as bad is what I hear on the evening news. That is just horrible. So that is why we have to generate some excitement and interest to hear another message other than what we've been hearing so far from the mainstream media. WanNa thank everybody for tuning in today. to the Liberty Report. Please come back soon.
Pompeo Wants Missiles For Turkey...To Confront Russia In Syria
"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning into the Liberty Report with me today his Daniel McAdams our co host. Daniel good to see you. How are you this morning? Dr Paul good to go for our new week. New Week wasn't problems. I think we'll talk today about foreign policy every once in a while mentioned foreign policy which is a big deal because a lot of people don't pay that much attention especially if there's a virus to worry about the stock market crashing but still foreign policy is is pretty important and there is an event going on in all places. Syria of course series been around for a long time and we've been involved especially politically since Hillary you know stirred up trouble there but is ongoing and we have had Assad on the ropes a couple times and he didn't have much control and finally what got him. Out of trouble was A Putin and the Russian we have to admit that they come in there and rescued him and actually except for we have troops protecting our oil bill A lot of Syria's been returned. Assad except for one key area has been in the news. Ad-lib that's up. In north western part of Syria on the border of Turkey and a battle has been going on between the Turks and And the Syrians right now but They're not exactly fighting a Assad Syrians. They're fighting. Who's going to control this area in the fact that there's so much attention right now. I think it looks like Assad maybe winning this fight and they're sort of desperate and the neo cons can't see this happening because they don't like Assad and and they wanted to make sure that He is injured so they're now Looking at it. And they're talking about weaponry believe it or not you know. And we've reported on this fact win. Turkey wanted weapons and they defied US and S. four hundred from Russia. And here we're in. Nato air buying weapons from Russia but there are friends. We have to defend them. But now we're still supposed to defend our NATO allies. But they're in there. There's a little bit of problem now and The the Turks Want the Patriot missiles. So here here. They have Russian missiles now. They want Patriot missiles and guess what our Secretary of State Pompeo he thinks He thinks that's a good idea. State Department wants them but some of the Pentagon says hey go easy. This could be dangerous in the first my first reaction from all this is why. Why are we doing this? Is this going to bring about peace prosperity? And they're lining up to take over the province in there are side struggling. How do we defy? Assad what this is in Syria that we're getting too. It's such a mixed deal. When you think it's SORTA proves the silliness of NATO and the silliness of a of of what we're doing now and pretending that we're leaving Syria at the same time you have the fight going on in the State Department They say we want more weapons for Turkey so we can defeat Assad and others are saying Pentagon has some responsibility so they say hey you better slow up a little you know and my concern was If things don't go exactly as they hope I mean there could be me a confrontation break out between Turkey even though they bought weapons from Russia and the United States could be involved in accidents happen so it is still a mixed bag but I think that It might be resolved If we if we were non interventionist not stirring the pot and I think we do a lot of that and And that's what remains to be seen so I don't think there's going to be announcement this week and say well Assad God total control of it live although he has done that with other cities you know taking over and has things settled so I think I my my feeling is let Syria be Syrian. Let them take care of it. Well you know. We learned a lot in the In the impeachment hearings and not exactly what they intended us to learn what I learned a lot and we already knew it really but is when you had not only Colonel Lindemann but over and over the former ambassador over and over they came and sat before Congress and they all said the same thing well well trump was was defying the policy position of the Inter Agency and therefore he was wrong. You know and so that more than anything taught us that no matter who's elected As as Tom Woods said no matter who you vote for John McCain you know so trump is essentially continuing the policy of of Obama which is Assad must go. He's not saying it himself out of his mouth but the people who worked for him that is their policy. That is the interagency policy which can't be changed and that is why we're in trouble. That's why we're probably closer to war with Russia than at any time since the end of the Cold War because obviously we want us all to go the Russians have been backstopping. Assad since two thousand fifteen. When as you as you mentioned in your opening he was almost he was on the ropes. That jihadists almost took over Syria and then they got help. The reason why we're talking about it now as you said. Is that over the past? Couple of weeks. The Syrian army has made dramatic gains in Italy province which even? Us officials admit is the last bastion of Al Qaeda in Syria. This is the last area. This is where they all escaped to when they left the other parts of Syria. This is where they are. But the Turks Dot WanNa let go of their policy of overthrowing Assad like we don't and so they did is they actually embedded Turkish troops in with jihadists in Syria. So this whole thing blew up on Thursday when when Syrian government and maybe even Russian airstrikes ended up killing about thirty four Turkish soldiers inside of Syria fighting against the Syrian army. The Turks are acting as if they're the aggrieved ones. You know just like just like we're in Syria. They're in Syria without being without being requested. So they'll say oh no. This is terrible. We got our guys killed. We need to have some patriot. Missiles NATO they call the NATO meeting. We need help. We need help and So this is what we're talking about now and the administration the the State Department while. Hey let's give them whenever they need in the Pentagon saying wait a minute. There are some implications for this that we need to think about so a few months ago we were trying to sell them something. And now we want to give them something you get involved and Of course the Russians sold them S. four hundred and now we at the Turks for doing this you know and we broke ranks with them on because they supposed to be involved in the F. Thirty five they were. They were actually building things so It looks to me like that. The weapons manufacturing businesses must be motivating law. This making profits on. This is another thing but I don't know whether that would ever entered the minds of the Russians but I would say they probably does. But maybe not quite like the neo cons in this country because they're driven by war profits profits I think the sad part though is is that trump position had been one that we could support this come home. That's leave and started leaving until he said well but we can't. We can't just leave the oil so we have to stay and he was talking to keeping some troops there and thought he could sit. Back in. This whole thing would be settled. But it wasn't likely to happen and So he he is. He's sympathetic. You know with with probably giving the weapons to Turkey. You know for diplomatic reasons. Yeah and he's not going to help us on no no in stepping back a little further to why. Why is this happening? Why why are we talking about it? Of course the US the US neo cons run Washington. Her acting as if Once again as if Assad just got a wild hair and decided to start killing a bunch of civilians were even as US officials. Admit that it's al Qaeda that runs the place. But why are they doing it now? This is the last bastion of Syria and Saudi. His as we would as any country would he says. I'm going to get control of sovereign control over my entire territory but back in twenty eighteen. Erta one and Putin met in such e and they came up with an agreement because this is the last time the Syrians were saying. Hey we gotta take this back. We don't want to help our country. They made an agreement. Turkey promised that it would it would send in troops would send an observation areas it would get involved but the purpose was to separate what they claimed are just moderate rebels and al Qaeda It's renamed several times but essentially al Qaeda. That's what the Turks promised to do twenty eighteen. It's now a couple of years later. And they have not done it on the contrary. And so. That's why the Syrian army because and we should have had a map. I forgot to put one up. But what's critical is the m four ineffective highways in five particularly goes through that area and it connects Aleppo which is the industrial center of Syria and the capital. Damascus road has been controlled by the hottest for years. Now the Syrian army got back control of that last week now. One critical city has fallen. And they've lost control but this is the back and forth so that's what's critical is get that m five highway. So the Turks didn't live up to their obligations of getting the jihadists away. Probably because they couldn't tell the difference because they're both the same and so the Syrian army says. You know we've had it's been two years. We need to go in there. The Russians have been helping although you know tr- Russia and Turkey. Were Toyoto head to head a couple of days ago in the situation was. Who'S GONNA BLINK? I think Putin blinked a little bit. But we can talk about this later but on Friday they will be a summit meeting between Putin and Erdo one in Moscow. They claim. This is gonNA solve all the problems. We'll have to see what happens so I think it's only going to be temporarily solved. That may come about soon but the only way there could be a reprieve on this would be that gets it live back and has has control that that would would set a lot as as long as you know. The Turks don't decide well we're sending in the troops or something but they say that trump That that Saw Does get control of this? And there's another victory for his Russian allies. They still have some problems with Syria seeking their national sovereignty because We we have Have this this thing going on? Even though we are position is we're leaving. We're leaving Like trump wanted to do but he's except for we. WanNa keep the oil. It's any oil. We have to keep. I would think if I were a Syrian and dedicated to Syrian sovereignty. I would say you think that we should just forget about a company a country coming in and all of a sudden a little fighting goes on and they put some troops on their. This is our oil. We gotta get paid for all our work so we have that but then then we still have Have the Kurdish situation too. And that's that's been around for a long time and that could be mixed but for now you know for making the next step and deciding what they're gonNA do really depends. That's why I think This meeting is pretty darn important. You and then the decision will be made. It doesn't get settled down. I think I think the Russians and the allies sought are going to get pretty rough. Yeah we'll get rough for sure and the other thing that I want you to over the weekend. He launched not only a lot of weapons into it but he pulled the trigger on the refugee weapon and that could be the biggest one he said over the weekend. Okay we're no longer going to keep these refugees and force them to stay in Turkey. We're going to open the gates and you saw some Collins probably over stated but you saw some collins moving toward Greece Certainly the rest of Europe. The last thing they want is another huge wave of refugees Hungary which blocked the other last wave. Said you know you're not coming in here but this is a big deal because the Turks Act as if they're somehow they should be thanked for housing all these refugees this whole time but the question is who created the refugees. They weren't refugees coming before the Turks and the Americans and the Europeans decided Assad must go. They created the problem and now they want some sort of credit for dealing with the problem they created but the Europeans are in would be a no move to have huge waves of refugees. Probably not that. Many of them were Syrian. Who KNOWS But that that is a weapon that's launch and I think that's meant to send a clear signal. Hey if we want to invoke Article Five of the NATO Treaty. We need you guys to come down here. No you better do it or you're gonna be sorry and you know. The refugee problem is related to the foreign policy. A lot to do with our foreign policy but now that we have the corona virus thing to be concerned about you know even if the country had been very very tolerant of refugees. Coming in. There's going to be a real clamor because the The fear monitoring that's been going on and The question how do you handle a problem like it becomes more complicated in you know here seems like we should it be smart enough how to sort it out and in the United States but over there when you think of the refugees and their lineup on the borders and tens of thousands of and of course they said that there were a million refugees from it? Lib that may or may not be true. Probably it's a little bit exaggerated but they're still. They're still a lot of people movement and They're not going to be able to. They don't even have the task yet for Corona virus. You know they said today. Maybe there's going to be a company that that comes out with. It can get what I wonder about is when you get into all this testing what if it's fifty percent test. Positive have never had never will again. He symptoms what are you GonNa do. You know it. It's A. It's a problem that they have yet to solve. I know this is off topic but you brought up corona virus. I don't know if you saw this this morning but remember when the Chinese built that hospital in a couple of days it was amazing. Did you see that they are actually closing that hospital now? They've they've discharged the last thirty four patients because there's no more outbreak. It's gone like you like you said from the beginning. I've taken a position where I consider it very very serious and people can die from it but it's nothing compared to influenza and I you know we always have sympathy for president trump when he takes a controversial stand bringing the troops home. I'm doing this and all the things that we like moving in the right direction. But he's taken the position because he has some scientific advisor saying you know we don't know that this is the end of the world and he says maybe in a couple of months. This won't be a big deal. This is one place where I'm cheering for him. Because they want to blame the virus on trump which makes no sense and they WANNA use it to gain control but aside from that aside that I wanted to bring that up. But what's happening right now. I'm just GONNA throw one scenario. Which makes it very very disturbing and I actually just our friend. Colonel Paddling just posted something on his site sic semper horrendous but what's happening the Turks of course. After they lost thirty four troops they went. They went all out. They started firing like mad. They killed they say they killed two thousand Syrian troops. I think that's probably most people think that's exaggerated but what they're doing is they're firing these multiple launch rocket systems from Turkish soil into Syria and killing Syrian army troops and that is devastating right now to the Syrian army. That's operating there. And they're in Turkish soil and this Pat Lang wrote normally what you would do and you could literally. Simultaneous instantly is determined these batteries where they are in in hidden back before they can move but becomes a little more complicated because they're in Turkey so if Syria fires into Turkey and knock out some batteries would that trigger article five could the could the Turks say hey listen series attacking us attacking our soil and so it makes very difficult. That Turkey is basically hiding behind his borders. And it's a big. It's a big deal. Would Europe go to go to war against Russia for a Turkey that they've been really thrilled about anyway for a long time In would the question would be would. Russia continued to back Syria. If this happened if if Turkey Turkey wanted Article Five statement last week in NATO's you know they gave him some positive words but didn't WanNa go there but if this does happen if you do start knocking out some of these batteries in Turkey which normally you would do because it is an act of war for Turkey to fire into Syria. It's like you know you put someone in the face and they punch you back and you claim that you're the aggrieved party here but there are a lot of real big question marks and it was pretty serious and I think that's why we're trying to talk about a little bit too. It's a big issue. You know over the many years that we've talked about this and I try to point out the closeness over the issue of economics as well as foreign policy. Because you have to spend a lot of money and you have to get involved in international trade and all these things and you don't really separate the two the immigration we already mentioned Can Be compounded by by the foreign policy and and that that is a serious problem too and this whole idea of sanctuary cities and sanctuary countries. And how the European Union was handled. And now what what? Greece's putting up with right now. The potential hundreds of thousands of running back in and these are all I think secondary to bad policy and and yet they don't seem to want to change it. We have you know this whole thing about sanctuary. Cities really is really is annoying thing for me because the people who really really believe in sanctuary cities and open up the doors and let him sleep on the streets and do all this money. Nobody talks about the violation of the neighbors neighborhood and the neighbor and and their neighbors property But the people who most likely push this leaving gated communities. I don't know why they can't find a way pretty close to a gated community in let them put their tents up there and maybe they would understand. What's what's going on but foreign policy is very important. If we want a peaceful prosperous society we have to talk about a non interventionist foreign policy. We have to talk about assign monetary policy and we have to talk about not using government force to try to bring about social changes and that is not part of what a free society is. All about I think the answer there. I don't think there are difficult and I think if we continue to do what we're doing. The situation is going to get much worse. Fortunately a lot of people are waking up. Believe it or not I believe that to be the case and people want to do the right thing and they understand what we should do. But you'll never believe that if you listen to presidential debates Joe here now in down a little bit of demagoguing it goes on and not getting the truth so we hope very sincerely that we can contribute to bringing the truth to the people to find out how to understand what a free society has like so that we can move and progress toward a free and prosperous society. Want to thank everybody for tuning in today to liberty report. Please come back soon.
'Bring Our Troops Home' - With Idaho Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin
"And thank you for tuning into the Liberty Report with me today as Daniel macadons our co host Daniel. Welcome to our program. How are you this morning? Dr Paul good good to see you here today as usual but we have a special guest today. That will be a very special program so I'd liked to go ahead and introduce her. Lieutenant Governor Janice he mcgeown and Recently we've found an article here and I was so impress somebody at the state level grassroots level talking about foreign policy Great great article. Chance to welcome to our programs. Look Good Morning. Earning Honorable Ron. It's to be with you this morning. Well grace you know And I'm very serious about this. How exciting it is About grass roots effort and local efforts. Well how can we get to the state government technically involved even in legislation or making a statement. Well every citizen should should make a statement. That's the only way we finally ended a disaster in Vietnam. You know people spoke on enough is enough but in your case you've worked in the A A way to address this subject. in a in a legal fashion by offering along with some help in your legislature some legislation to said bring our our troops home. And because you have some responsibility you have the National Guard you have this. You Know State Guard to deal with so you have some direct responsibility. All Americans have responsibility and we wouldn't have this disaster that you talked about so so clearly in your article. I was doing these crazy things that. Why are we overseas? It's time to bring the troops home. So I want to congratulate you I I for having this position and second for speaking king out and working for the Veterans for bringing our troops home and I think this is where the answer is that has to be at the grassroots level because the one thing I knew in Washington is that they're they are completely divorced from the grass roots and they don't realize they get embedded. They think they're really running the show up there events eventually. Eventually people will realize that the real efforts has to be with what the people think and what they put up with and if they put up with nonsense that's what they're going to get. But what I see. See You with US speaking out. You're actually getting to the point of saying that people in the states ought to talk about foreign policy as well. So congratulations on your article and welcome talk programs. Thank you sir and as it should be and I'm not the only one that's across the country that is getting engaged on on this issue and as we speak I think there are ten or eleven states that are because of the fact that Congress is not doing their job. They're advocating their duty. We and we have to follow our constitution where our constitution says who whose job it is to declare war and it is congress that is their responsibility. uh-huh ability that if our troops are going to be played if our men and women are going to be placed in harm's way then it's Congress's responsibility to declare the war four have a defined mission. Have our troops go over do their job and then at -CCOMPLISH the mission and then come back home and that's not what's happening in our country and especially the war in Afghanistan the longest war going on longest war ever in our country tree and Still Congress's turning. They're turning a blind eye to what's happening over there in Afghanistan. I for one along with so many. The other IDAHOANS Gold Star moms were were tired of having to bring our men and women home in a body bag. It's time for this war and it's time for Congress to do their job and if they're going to continue to be derelict in their duty than states need to step up and this is what we see Happening across the nation. And we're seeing a real growing grassroots support for this effort right and I see what you're doing is breaking new ground in getting people activated at the state state level. But so far. Since you've been involved Lieutenant Governor for a year you may have had these views a lot longer but how what's the reception ZSA although there's not legislation passers legislation proposed. Are you getting a Lotta kickback. From people. How about Republicans and Democrats whereas how did they do? This are most people noar in your most people saying go go go. What's the reception been like? Well again it's being driven by the grass roots and I and being driven by many many of our veterans here. We have a lot of veterans here in Idaho and they're the ones that are driving. Yes there are the people that are pushing back but it's a bipartisan. Effort is a grassroots effort. And it's our job to help educate and it's time to have the debate Daniel. Well you know as as you may know Lieutenant Governor World About Building Coalitions broad coalitions Dr Paul when he was in Congress. It's been a lot of time working with progressives and doing his best to working with some conservative as well. But you know the key. I think to all of this this warren pieces. She was getting the broadest coalition. Listen and really attracting conservatives into the Anti War smooth enough traditionally we talked about people. Jimmy Duncan And the like Walter Jones. They would remind us that traditionally it's a conservative issue to be hesitant about war. which is the number one? Big State adventure But it has been tricky attracting Republicans contracting conservatives because of this sort of Wrong is year that you're somehow wimpy if you oppose war and we really Applaud your effort to get conservatives on board. This is something that you wrote in a recent article even if you have no moral issue issue with police in the world American taxpayers simply. Can't afford it. What other what other? This is a great. That's a that's a great point to make what other things are you hearing that re- that really resound around with conservatives to get them attracted to this issue of bringing the troops home it's all about returning back to the principles that are in our constitution that and that's why it's so appropriate that it does come from those of us who are Very more conservative and and a follow and respect our constitution rather than our friends on the other side of the aisle who sometimes try to politicize these things. It's not about Out Paul Politics. It's about following our constitution and our Constitution is very clear what it says in when when we when we're talking about putting our men and women in harm's way and so that's what that's what's driving. The movement on top of being grassroots movement from being led by our veterans turns. Is that we we. We've gone so far. We've strayed so far away from the underlying principles of our Constitution and it's time that we return back to to those guiding principles. You know too often. We assume that everybody is against us. And we don't have many people with us and yet I think Tulsi Gabbard has realized I had this same thing happened to me when I ran that the military personnel. And you also you do work with veterans. A Lot said. They're the ones have a say so they should. They should have a lot of credibility ability so we make these assumptions because we hear it on the television endlessly into politicians are sort of WIMPS and motivating probably in Washington by the military industrial complex. But I think you cite in your article a few foof a few polls down that shows even the grassroots level. There's a fair number or a people at the grass roots. That really already support us if we just get them excited and get the message to them absolutely. And as you said in your are in your book Congressman Paul it that the more that week carelessly enter into these these conflicts. It's is true that it does further. PUT US it makes us vulnerable at home. Because we know that we have limited resources and where we're spread so thin across the rest of the world it does put our the security and safety of our nation at risk right Daniel. Will you mentioned in the recent article article that caught our attention antiwar dot com featured it in so it caught a lot of attention but a couple of really important poll numbers. First of all fifty eight percent of vets say that the Afganistan War was not worth fighting. But here's a here's an incredible and I think he may have done a show about this talk to Paul. Political poll found that eighty one percent of trump voters support support withdrawal from Afghanistan. Why why do you without necessarily being critical of the president? Why do you think? He's incapable of such overwhelming support for his positions. Why has there been so little movement in that direction? I think it's just a matter of education and that's what this effort is all about. We're doing we're sitting eating out To help educate members of the legislature members of our community. Here in Idaho. The bill is set to be introduced some time this week and so it's just. It's our job to help. Educate the public in help. Educate policymakers and I also understand that this week senator to ramp all is going to be conduct starting to conduct here a news about some of the action that has come out in the Afghanistan papers. and Ah it's all about education when we learn as as a society citizens when we learn that Congress has carelessly appropriated appropriated money fifty two million dollars for a natural gas processing site in Afghanistan. And there's no natural gas over one hundred million dollars to build a high-rise hotel that the Taliban used to stand on the top floor and shoot into our. US Embassy. It's it's all about education and as these facts are coming out and more and more people are becoming aware of what is happening especially especially in Afghanistan. I think that's where the surge of support will come from the people. The people of Idaho the people from states all across the country in in West Virginia. I think it's very interesting. It's a delegate mcgeown so there's two Mcginn certainly he there's a pull out there three to one poll in in West Virginia. The of the people who support his efforts and the more we learn about what's happening in Afghanistan especially in Afghanistan. The the more I believe that the this will be driven by the grassroots by the people across America because we're not not welcome over there in Afghanistan the recent incident that happened over there over the weekend. It is just disgusting disgusting that our troops are over there trying to train. They're providing training and assistance to the Afghan military police and what happens is from that effort up elite. An Afghan police comes out while the men and women are standing in the field waiting to be picked up they he. The Afghan police officer comes out with a machine gun and just literally most them down it is. It's sickening it's disgusting gusting what is happening over there and it's time for it to end the people we should not be interfering in that level. Their governmental Memento over there and they view us as the antagonise and so as soon as more of this information starts to come out. I think the people of this country will rise up and demand. This is the way it should be. The congress needs to be doing their job and I I think that's absolutely right You know it's easy to draw the line and gets people's attention when we talk about Iran Iraq Syria where the troops are in. There are a lot of people are dying Ryan. But then there's the other side of the story about an interventionist foreign policy because even though there might not be hostilities. Going on we're still very much involved. All we get involved in elections were in one hundred and seventy countries we participate in coup of all things. So how far are you willing to say that we should just get out not only on these activities in Warren killing. Try to work away from this intervention and US being involved. We're we're in one hundred seventy countries now so I like to draw a little closer to home with you and I believe that we're spreading our resources too thin and our leaders those Sir in Congress they again. They need to do their job. If we are going to be in a combat send our are men and women into combat duty. They need to clearly define and they need to work with our military leaders to clear clearly define what at mission is go over accomplish the mission and then come home we have. We have plenty of challenges right here on our own soil that we need to contend again with an my hope. Is that through this. Our President has is very supportive of the idea bringing our troops home me. Just in his State of the Union address last week made several comments along that line saying that our troops are the best in the world and they they want them They want to fight to win or not fight at all. He was quoted as saying we are working to finally end America's longest war and bring our troops back home And he also said that war places a heavy burden on our nation's extraordinary military families so our president is committed to this but we need congress to act and so. I think that that's what we're trying to do is bring education to the members of our Congress. So that People this is Sergeant Webb who went and served in Afghanistan Ghanistan and Iraq. I Some I got to know so many he came home and unfortunately was one of those who suffered from. PTSD he committed suicide. There's so many others that I have gotten to know personally sergeant. Chris Workman who was killed in a helicopter accident over there in Afghanistan and just a few months ago former mayor of Ammon Idaho. The where I'm from a small small town Idaho. It's there's just these things are affecting us because these are people that we know these are people we love and no and and the veterans. I've met Sergeant Damage night and and Adams they have come back to Idaho Nair Nair leading the effort here. These people that I've met and got to know them personally and they've suffered greatly they have seen things that no oh person should be exposed to and it's frustrating that we are caught in this conflict where we can't we don't I know what the rules of engagement are and they and they get caught up in these cultural differences and they suffer greatly come home and he suffered greatly but I'm glad to see that the these individuals are able to to grow beyond some of the difficult things they've experienced and put that energy not to good use to help bring greater public awareness to this issue. Very Good Lieutenant Governor. You really took this fight to Washington yourself. You went and the charity hearing I believe on the legislation that has several states are now adopting. Tell us a little bit about your trip did you. Were you able to lobby a few members on the hill. Give us some the total of about your trip that recently absolutely it was a great trip it was too short. We are able to get a lot of good work done in a matter of one and a half-days we we had a briefing there at the press the press conference there in Washington. DC We were able to lobby all of our congressional congressional delegate. I visited with Congressman Filter Senator Risch who was very instrumental very key because he chairs the the Foreign Affairs Committee and then Senator Crepeau as well. I wasn't able to see Simpson on our trip but it was a great experience to meet many others. Others from across the country share the commitment and the the the Effort with fellow. Legislators laters and Veterans Ramal across just gain a lot of synergy. We met General Waldoch who's actually running for Senate in New Hampshire today. They're having their primary and he's a great he served. He's one of the longest serving generals in Afghanistan. These now running running for the Senate. He's perfect candidate for for this for this job in Sion the best of luck. Maybe we'll come over. Help helped him campaign ah we we. We'll we'll have to go but I have another comment. Well let you finish up. But you know. The concerned Veterans for America's a great group and you mentioned the the end McKnight and we have him on our program and that has been very useful. And I think what you're doing there and I understand. I read that little story about your your protection. You know your guards on your campaigning. You say no. They're just my friends and I thought that was pretty neat But they're very important. I think As a veteran they have credibility if they've been over there especially some of them change their minds entirely entirely and and the other point I want to make and I know you understand. This is that It isn't going over. And if you're lucky you get back and everything is okay. Okay so much. Endless suffering so much suffering of families divorces and you've already mentioned people coming back injured and then the epidemic of suicide suicide by veterans. This is it's tragic. I don't think they come close to ever measuring and defining how much suffering comes from wars. There's there's absolutely preventable. There's no need for this so I congratulate you on on this. I'm delighted you do work with these veterans. Well I love them they they do come home and they are still so committed to providing safety and security protecting our liberties and freedom in American and they are they protect us whether you're Democrat. Republican into independent Libertarian. Their job and they're committed to that to helping being protect us as Americans and so glad Colin. My friends very good and I wanna go ahead and close Do you have any particular way that viewers might get in contact with you. Do you have a special website or a special group that you'd like to recommend that our listeners Referred to well. If if you just Google Janice mcgann Lieutenant Governor of Idaho. We have a website. We also have a facebook page aged and we tried a very active on social media and welcome messages and Words from from people all across the country. And I'm I'm happy to help. Pass that that support to those who are leading helping to lead as far as the legislators and the veterans here in Idaho on this effort so please please do please. Contact doesn't reach out. We'd love to hear from you very very good. Yes I want to thank. He wants again for being on our programs and keep up the good work. Well thank you and you too. 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CDC Bombshell: Only Six Percent Of "Covid Deaths" From Only Covid!
"Hello, everybody and thank you for tuning into the Liberty Report. With me today's Daniel Mike Adams are co hosting. Good to see you today. How are you this morning Dr Paul good feeling weak and ready and raring to go. That's right. Solve another problem. Couple I've been saying that for a long time. His hard to measure and I think that is the truth when we're in this type of business or no matter what kind of freedom group it is you never know what the results are I keep thinking about all the young people that call me the have their own little organization that somebody say, why don't you go on there? They only have two, thousand, two, thousand I used to go for twenty. So. There's a lot of people out there a lot of changes. So that's where I get my optimism. So that's why we keep plugging along. Do our best to get the information is sorted out because you know we usually find some good news people move in our direction. I think we have a little bit of that today. At least information we have the CDC report. Which is Falling our way and that trying to explain that the data's not reliable. And also, that there are some results in Berlin in Europe we're showing that to people are rebellious. Actually better than the Americans are. Rolling over here you know. Adam Dick are staffer written article really goes over this details about what's going on on our car colleges not destroying people then you know we still. Nervously have some in our family still into. Regular teaching business and kids in regular schools, and it is just devastated tried to raise kids doing this and I. It seems like it's deliberately to really get you up. Especially, if you have kids at different ages and different schools and then they take a break it up some his home, some is doing this and some of your ten classes and it's a good good way to make people nervous and the kids to there's not only parents who have to hustle has to be the kids to get all upset about this because they believe it or not kids like to be organized and they like it when people give them a little bit of help structure nor they're going to do but we WANNA go over. The CDC report and this is really something that. We suspected we talk about we knew it existed, but this is some. Firm evidence what's going on how they can't the data we know has always been fudged and they've come up with a new number saying that it was ninety four percent of the covid nineteen deaths in the US had. Other fact maybe. Maybe. Cover had nothing to do with it, but it looks like out of this group of over hewing only six. Did they say they were claiming that? Well, we we would put them in the category that those individuals dive from the virus with. This. This whole thing if we ever got to the point of saying instead of Cova Nineteen, the hysterically pandemic and all this stuff. If they were said, we you know this year's cold virus. something. Always thought worse. Worse than average cold virus, but it's not some people. Argue is not worse. Then influenza, there's some stats on that but you know when the dust settles. We're going to have an more accurate they. You know as as some honest researchers research is going to find out that wasn't anything like they portrayed it to be, but did you say say well, that's good news. Well, it's good news that they're finding it. It's a little late the sooner the better but the the whole thing is. If if if if they find it. Know might be too late because. The process is going to be in place. They're sort of waiting. You know this falls through I. think that. You know it's when I read the CDC report that will could this be cover? They're coming out and saying, well, you know we did this and We weren't hiding anything and our they're leaking out the truth, but that's to to conspiratorial that wouldn't be true. So it is and it's it's a bombshell and we can actually even put up the first clip. This is from the CDC zone website this. report that came out over the weekend. This isn't the CO morbidity. Section of the report for six percent of the deaths covid nineteen was the only 'cause mentioned. On average, there were two point, six additional conditions or causes per death, and additionally the most of those who died of that ninety four percent were of an extreme advanced age. So this incense, it's a bombshell because in a lot of people are saying, well, that means only about nine thousand, two, hundred people died from Cova alone, and that is not entirely accurate, and in fact, Alex Berenson who's I think done the best work on. This is a former New York Times reporter. And he's been on, he's been on TV all the time about it but he makes a point that it's not accurate to say that only nine thousand. because. Some of those co morbidity. Really, are conditions that can be related to a cova death like pneumonia, but it's probably fair to count that in a few others. So Berenson did is he went through it and he said, let's take. The Co Morbidity is that clearly weren't related to Cova death even though Kobe was on the death certificate and he pointed out Alzheimer's. Dementia cancer and unintentional. Injury member, we talked about the motorcycle accident that was covert suicides there a section where suicides are listed as. So he says, if you take out those that were clearly not related to cove it, even leaving things like diabetes and obesity because that can be related even if you're so conservative, you do it that way by his estimate, there were about fifty thousand. Certificates covert certificates assuming no double counting, which certainly could be the case but that is a far cry. If even if you leave those things in fifty thousand deaths rather than one, hundred, sixty, some thousand deaths that is a regular flu season of I think in eighteen, we had eighty thousand deaths. So it's clearly even if you approach a very conservatively and you don't want to say only nine thousand, there's clearly something that's changed since these numbers have come out the one statistic that I don't think we're going to see and someday somebody might try to sort it out but we very controversial is the. Genetic cause. Because doctors do make mistakes and sometimes for political reasons of all sorts of things. But they make mistakes everybody that got put on a respirator was done with the intent of doing what they thought was the right thing and turns out. I. Don't think any doctors now say get them on a respirator. Fast. This'll hit head off the seriousness of the disease as sort of thing and I don't know. I. Don't see them soon sorting and I say it was the treatment. What about the denied treat move hydroxy chloroquine you know. That's still up in the air though I have a strong opinion about that and I think that the FTC. Completely wrong century taken off the market. So they may have contributed to some of the problems to and even the even the ones who died. You'd have to go and look and see if you those things could have been contributed. Did the doctors actually contributed? We know the politicians house. But the doctors do it in air not realizing that the medical treatment current medical treatment was You know part of the problem I think they're coming around now? Especially, some of the doctor wish re they have a pretty good you know protocol on the right antibiotic and and what to do and avoid respirators and. hydroxy. Remember when they passed that big bailout bill, there were incentives in there for hospitals to list cove there were financial incentives to put people on ventilators they collected I think thirty thousand dollars for each person they put on a ventilator. So it's not to say they purposely tried to kill these people, but the net result was that killed a lot of people and they got a lot of money doing it. But I think there are three lessons from this report that we can take away three very solid lessons first of all. Cove. Nineteen Corona virus is far less deadly to healthy people than the government's the media anyone has ever said clearly, clearly true second of all, we should have protected the vulnerable more instead of actually doing things that made them more vulnerable, more susceptible to death like putting sick people in the folks with them. The third lockdowns did not only did they not save lives they actually killed more people than the corona virus all out. If you if you look at these numbers I, think those are three really important things and I wonder now and I've heard some I've seen some things people are talking about litigating. The destruction to society destruction to people's lives from the lockdowns. Maybe if we get to that point, that'd be the next phase, but you wonder wh-. Conspiratorial but you wonder what was the incentive? What? What do people never let a crisis go to waste? Let's look at this next clip I just do this because it's pretty fascinating I don't know what there is to it. This is the founder of the world. Economic Forum this is a good buddies with Soros and Bill Gates Klaus. Schwab he said the pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect re imagine and reset our world. Okay. No thanks Claus Right. You know it it does seem strange. It's hard to believe it's all a coincidence and at the same time the Marxist movement just got really energized was sick. In in line with and the core occurring with corona virus so this is something that. People people notice this and at the economic controls, all of a sudden much further along than anybody ever dream that they would be able to close down governments closed down schools. It's just as so overpowering, which means that they knew what they were doing exactly because they knew what we know in. PHILA- philosophic fight you had to convince people of certain beliefs are universities have been polluted for a long time. The schoolteachers have all gotten their lessons from from the universities and and all of a sudden everybody's involved you know. I would notice that and you did too. You know in Washington. When we will try to explain non-intervention foreign policy or on economic policy. Were they all learn their stuff from the same place? There's only one university out there except for a few a few exceptions for that. But they they all learn the economic saw how can I can remember I really a little charge out of it With. The campaign had some pretty well-known interviews. In a friendly way I think they were a little bit curious and they weren't being nasty. What is this Australia? Free free market stuff for business about and yet it's a significant philosophy but they knew this they they've infiltrated and it is bursting out about, yes. Wha a little bit. We're going to talk about maybe our side is bursting expressing themselves when you look at what's happening in Europe It isn't it was an exciting weekend in Europe literally all over Europe but accepts. Exceptionally in Berlin, they say it was the largest protests German history. This is Germany that saying a lot. Let's look at this I. They say the estimated millions of people showed out in Berlin to protest against lockdowns against facemasks events being shoved around and pushed around forced to have the needle stuck in your arm and it was absolutely an incredible. Let's look at the next picture. There are so many fascinating pictures of this to me. They look like ordinary people, Dr Paul. And it's even look at this next one. There's a slogan that I think you're gonNA agree within the next picture read nieces not Mars. Yeah. In. Fact of our new friend RFK junior was there and he gave a blockbuster of speech. Let's listen to a few seconds of this because this is the part and there will be a code afterward. This is the part that's so fascinating. That he said if we can when we get that cued up. leaving. Same reason they war. Whereas? Otherwise. Never. Did Not. You mentioned. Candidate our new friends and he's closer to us than I ever dream but you stereotype people. But I think what what his relationship with us now is. A is evidence that coalitions are good. Not not compromising always think there's a big difference between moderates compromising giving up each side gives up some of their believes but coalition. Now when we've spent time with Robert what he's doing, you know there's not much he says about vaccines and all that we wouldn't agree with and boy on the CIA and foreign policy. I thought his one quote about about you know you. You can't. If if you have foreign empire, you can't have a republic and so he he's very close to that and and I think that is very good because the. The coalition is the way to go and you shouldn't write them off because. Because, you will never get everybody to be a libertarian their size, not all going to get them to be. Marxist. And and I, think the other thing working in coalitions and think about working with my my friend Dennis. That when your friends, you agree the other things become less vitriolic. You say well, maybe there's a way we can work it out and softened stands, and so that's why I think what Robert Kennedy's doing here is tastic and and the crowds. Are Unbelievable. And the other thing there's a little bit of symbolism. I. Think it's great symbolism that it's Germany it's. It's huge Hitler used to get big crowds out there and you never used to see me signs. Now, we saw a few of those during our campaign and different places we went so I. I'm absolutely convinced that if you don't have people thinking about ideology. And recognizing when your enemies are, you know determined with ideology that's why that's why some of these people say, how could how could they do this? You know it doesn't make any sense they're attacking their friends. But if you want chaos as part of your philosophy, you still get your chaos and on you go for tyranny. For sure and you know RFK started his speech by saying you know the media in the US is so corrupt the mainstream media. So corrupt, they said, they reported that I was going to Berlin speak to five thousand. Nazis said I'm looking around you people are the opposite of Nazis. You're demonstrating for democracy and for your freedom and your personal freedoms but come back. To the US turn on the Washington Post, how do they report it? Let's look at this next clip. Here's The Washington. Post German president condemns far right protests and Berlin two million. Chilean. Nazis right and let's take a look at these Nazis in Berlin. This is the next picture here they are. They're standing next to big poster of Gandhi yeah he's well, not Nazi extremist. But it only in Berlin, there were a massive crowd in London listening. Go to have little slide show here. There was a massive crowd in London that came out in square project fear look at how many people it looks like the next clip. Masks are muzzles. The new normal is new fascism freedom. Over fear, we will not be silenced with your muscles. Nobody's GonNa Face Mask, Dr, Paul, and they're not keeping six feet apart. Let's do one more. Chain risks, they're taking risks. Let's do one more on that one. Big Brother is masking you. That's a good sign, but this is just amazing tremendous, and here's how the corrupt newspaper Guardian reports. It looks look at this. Corona virus skeptics, conspiracy theorists, and anti vaccinators. That's the only way they can report. This is to condemn them but DOC Paulin. Here's some good news I'm going just give two clips to cheer you up a little bit after seeing that lists like these next two I think something's happening in the in the European media. Especially, you know this is the BBC BBC. Corona virus is it time to move on and baton normal life look at the next one the Telegraph and I'll turn it back to you. The West. covid shows we have succumbed to a medieval nastya roses. This is the Telegraph these mainstream papers in Europe in the UK that are starting to shake loose and starting to to come in direction now. There's a certain individual that works in the Democratic Party and she's been around for a long time and she used to talk a lot. It's for the children. And your name was Hillary. Always for the children, that's why you have to do and I keep thinking. That Robert. Kennedy uses children's health defense you know and. And I thought now that's really something for the children and then I see what they're doing now. I wonder I wonder if these Marxists could say when you look with common sense and looking at what the kids are putting up with when they don't get sick in making them, obey submit and wear these masks. So this is it's not for the children is for tyranny is what they're making things happen, and if you argue the case for liberty, I'll tell you about to bet you can do for the kids. Grow up in a free free society and many Americans have in the past a relatively free at least least a lot better than what's going on right now with the with the children in this country putting up with all the regulations and the tyrants that we have but. These points that you picked up and we've tried to make I really do think. It shifting maybe maybe they'll just throw up their hands maybe you know with modern day transmission of information maybe as much better than than we realized and sometimes it happens in in campaigns that when somebody comes forth and nobody's supporting one person stands up and say this is this all of a sudden. A lot of other people agree. So I, think that that is what's happening the biggest frustration for me and we point is when you get involved in politics is. To grasp, but somebody might be saying something very correct and we say, Hey, this is good. They want to do this but then it doesn't become you know. From, convinced convincing a format they they don't go through they don't follow through. And people get hopeful and they get turned off. But I, think that that's the way politics will always be about to tell you what you can get more honesty When people decide it's an intellectual fight it. We're going to fight this on a moral basis and we don't have to think that we have to be bought and and yet the money by as we don't need the Bill Gates's of the world and his funny philosophies to change the world for the better because it isn't being changed for the better if we listen to him and they're not going to stop with. This the mass then the mass was symbolic and you've said many times even had a great interview with Lou Rockwell over the weekend, the mass symbolic, and that's only the first step before they started jabbing things in your arm but it's not just the UK it's not just it's not just Germany. Let's look at one other one. This is in Spain they are furious. We can't live like zombies protesters in Spain Decry Cove nineteen masks mandate. That's nonsense. Political virus. So thousands of people showing up in Spain even demonstrating against this this virus. So it's going nowhere unfortunately you look around the US. Not. Much happening look around Texas, not much happening we still have. We still believe it or not still have a mask mandate from our governor. What the Independent State of Texas is not doing too much. I'M GONNA I'll close out here for right I. DO I do want to say that we're going to think are super chatters after this, which we do every Monday, we appreciate your support to help keep us going kicking a little bit of money to help keep the show. So thank you very much. I want to close with an update because we've been following. Collin. County Texas a lot and it's important because they're calling out the state to calling out the corruption in how they report these corona virus cases. Let's just look at the next one judge Chris. Hill I think as an outstanding individual extremely brave. He's the one that put up on the Colon County dashboard. We have no faith or confidence in the states numbers, and this is what he called out. The Texas State Health Service Department reported there were four, thousand, seven, hundred, and thirty, six active cases in Collin. County on the eighteenth. Then all of a sudden they reported a couple of days later, they're only eighty three so they have revised. Look at the next to you can even see this is on the dashboard. Active. Cases Eighty one on eight twenty, six through the next one active cases before that just a couple of days before if we hit that last Four, thousand, six, hundred, forty, the numbers are crazy. The judge has called him out on it. And they're having to respond, and there's going to be so much more of this Dr Paul that comes out of this cooking of the books these cowards who were not willing to stand up. It's disgusting but hats off to to the judge out in Collin County very good I'm I'm gonNA close with a bit of a warning, not not overwhelming warning where we have to get nervous about it, but we have to think about it and it involves the corona virus situation because this week it was. The first confirmed case of reinfection. Well, you know I would study that and see if people can prove to me but we sort of learned when I was in medical school. I still believe that you didn't get reinfected. You know if you had the immunity for a disease, it was for life sometimes there were other types of complication but anyway, it's out there. The first case what I'm pointing and I think you understand this is the headline always keep you on your toes, but the other thing is that. They're not giving up on is there will never be the same. There's hope this hope in the way, it's different his these people that are expressing themselves in Europe and landed in Berlin in never be the same because they're not gonNA put up with this but. They there will be I think they've lost the fight. I. Think the CDC has to admit that they've overstepped their bounds and they're going to lose all credibility, but there could be a new virus coming. So that's what people have to be aware but I think people who have come around to understanding the concerns that we have will not be bamboozled. especially if we ever get this thing to go on a different direction I, think the telltale sign, it will be the schools are schools are boy that is a hotbed for bad ideas. I'll tell you so anyway the. The people will have to be on on. Careful about because the news will come out and I think of the emergency powers that were gained after nine eleven. They have been removed. And then when they started financial surveillance to protect the customers, you know from the government and snooping and all this sort of thing, and it was nothing more than more government control, and that's what this is when you think about the plans that Bill Gates's of the world have they want more control Of the people and of course, you're interested in liberty. You don't want that to happen. You want people to make decisions. You want people to understand what property rights me, and you want to have people understand what contracts are for. You have to understand why government should be very limited and and their role. Precisely. Stated and for me. If you're going to have a government, the government should be there to protect individual liberty. So people voluntarily can take care of themselves when the problems occur it can be done in many different ways voluntarily local government, private organizations, all kinds of thing, but you don't need the horrifically huge. Welfare warfare. State. We don't need to be in every country in the world. We're on one hundred and fifty some where we have troops and in order to be safe and secure a matter of fact they. Say and yes, I like to be safe and secure. That means that we have to understand why government should be very, very limited, and that's why we have to get people to understand be very leery of the power and authority of of the Justice Department, the FBI, and especially the CIA because if if we want our liberties, we have to assume responsibilities and if it doesn't work out perfectly for us because nothing is you cannot say that well under these. Conditions bad bad deal and I went broke so I'm going to go to the government so he robbed my neighbor to help bail me out. No, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't mean that it's cold and callous because I think I think the if you WanNa talk about humanitarianism that is found in the cause of liberty because there's more wealth and more volunteerism less violence less. Wars. So the opportunity to take care of this problem, there's just overwhelmingly larger than it is when the bureaucrats get control and they give us black lives matter they can do anything you want don burn the CDs and we have Corona virus lockdown and at the same time sort of ignore one huge problem in that is the the ability of the Federal Reserve to finance all. This and people are not paying much attention but I do believe we back in progress it's slow but we need the help. So we are delighted when we have our viewers tune in spreading this message because that is what it's going to take. We need to spread the message and I believe today we still you know at one time they had to do pamphleteering in a way is. pamphleteering here, and it's small because we don't have control of the social media nor the regular media but there's ways that word of mouth in the power of ideas the power of truth is is on our side and that's the reason I do hang onto the whole idea of being optimistic that we can change things for the better WanNa. Thank everybody for tuning in today to liberty report. Please come back soon.
Trump Slammed For 'Downplaying' Coronavirus...But Was He Right?
"Hello everybody, and thank you for tuning into deliberately report with me. Today is Daniel make. Are Co host Daniel. Deceit it you this morning Dr. Paul. Good. Radian rare and ago. Solve the were world's problems and talk a little bit about Corona Vars. You know that's a subject around for a little bit. It isn't the krona viruses. The deal is the consequence of the fearmongering Is the consequence of what has been the effect on our liberties Now, that's that's the big deal because it's ongoing but maybe we see a sign of hope right now and we'll talk a little bit about a poll a recent poll that. Came out half decent. So but you know the big thing over the weekend from the news that I watched was. How hard can the far left come down on trump for the way he reacted early on in the first part of the year when he heard there was a virus and. The scenario is that he he knew about it it was very serious and then he ignored doing anything about it and I got to thinking we know the first month or two nobody knew much about it and it was all misinformation and I can imagine. Trump saying. This sounds pretty serious. We need to take this well I. think that's a pretty good reaction because even those of us who have a different opinion on how to handle it, handle it we don't dismiss the fact that is a serious problem. What are we going do to protect the elderly in the nursing homes like that so but but trump sorta. You know new new immediately. He had to be serious and he early on did do some. In quarantine people coming into the country and you could argue the pros and cons on that. But at least it wasn't like he totally ignored it and. Then later on, you know He. He came down on the side of doing more but the left thinks that he did too little too late and he's guilty and he caused people to die I. think they're over the top and I think that even this makes sense to me on on the how. I can understand how he he how he handled it recognizing it was serious and not. Not Participating in the maybe there are some people who already knew that we had to stir up a lot of trouble here we have to scare people and he's he didn't scare enough people. So but now they're arguing over this but it's pure politics and I I just I just hope that people aren't so naive say well, trump should have had the lockdown in January thirtieth. And he wasn't inclined to be sides. This is at the same time. This seems like he's trying to defy lockdowns all across the country which I consider some good news, and this is right at a time with becoming more and more obvious that the lockdowns were not only not not a productive but they were counterproductive. They destroyed economies places that didn't lockdown actually did better but this will think him out of a bombshell from a book by Bob. Woodward Timed perfectly for the height of the election season coincidentally where he reveals, he has a tape where trump said, yeah, I know what's back you sat noah's bad. This is going to be bad but it's GONNA be probably exercises journalistic responsibility to the people and say, Gosh I was. Was Holding this for a bombshell book and make a few million bucks. However, this is such a serious thing. I gotTa let you guys know this trump guys really messing it up no, he didn't do that. He waited to the right time. He has a thing that we all should remember when something like this comes up, you ought to be cautious and get all the facts in and. The argument that it's horrible horrible and have to do all these things and that went on for months it turns out that the people who were saying how bad it really was was based on a lie. and. That's what we've been talking about for months. Now, you know the lying on the statistics in the reporting and and systematic approach to you know making things worse by these lockdown. I think that's probably the really the big story is those people who generated all this area. We're the ones who caused it because they lied lied this country and the world into it I think the World War copycats to on this but it was way overblown and I think trump maybe accidentally has come up with vision. It wasn't so terribly wrong saying, yes bad. We gotta do watch it and then not be You know not one eight because the hysteria and now I think that he's working to calm down the hysteria. Followed China, that Paragon of civil liberties, right hold on their response. But that was only the beginning of this little Brouhaha. But then the president did something over the weekend that I know you're going to talk about that just had them in paroxysms of. foaming fomenting fear and anger he held a rally Oh. Yeah. This is I. Don't know what this proves that prove something prove that trump had a rally and there was some local people who said you're not supposed to do that without a mask on. So he had the rally in. You know it they. Mood indoors for some reason, but they had a large artery. has six or seven thousand depends on who you read. That's a pretty good rally especially under these conditions. So they they were saying that you know that that he shouldn't have done that and it was wrong he did that. Everybody's going get on fire S, and in this sort of thing and just like sturgis these other places, all these predictions, how bad it's going to be and that trump. What trump did but I think that I worked pretty well to tell you the truth. But I've come to the conclusion looking at all this stuff off and on the left that people who are the enemies of you know the trump is trump ism I think they can't stand anybody having any fun. Yeah, and and I guess trump even when he has a lot. He doesn't ignore what he has. He has some thoughts to carry on and shoulder. He still looks like he's having fun and they can't stand that and so they have to lie their way into more problems. I guess the people that. I disapprove of the most you know the left is always been that would be a natural thing. But for some reason, I don't have a lot of respect for somebody who's in the Republican Party in support. You know positions of trump with if it wasn't trump. Yeah, and and even if somebody like that conservatives, I had it with trump you do things I don't like I don't like your foreign policy I'm leaving I'd respect that. But what about the governor's and all these people who have a little bit of credibility with the with the Republican Party. Corn with. Biden. To support. Overtly by over this and all this stuff goes on that doesn't deserve much respect over the lockdowns but you know the the politicization of this virus and I think that's what we've been talking about from the very beginning when you were kind of a lightning rod when you talked about it as a hoax and obviously it was not the virus as a hoax but the reaction to it, and this has been our take for most politicisation nowhere is that more evident than the media's response to trump daring to hold a rally in Nevada here's CNN headline trump ignores science at dangerous indoor rally or there's some objective news reporting. And you dig down in the article a little bit and talk about convenient and talk about politicisation. Here's a quote from the CNN article major television networks decided to not send crews to cover the rally quote for their own safety. Just, for their safety. So basically, you know they want the tree falling in the woods and no one hears it. Well, there was an interview on CNN. Jake tapper he's not the epitome of libertarianism straight shooting He was interviewing Peter. Navarro. WHO's in? Advisor on international trade but evidently it fell apart because it was sort of a blame game and tapper got. Really. Frustrated with this over the fact that trump had this rally and how bad How bad that was but you know there was the also the subject came up on one of the lefty stations and that had to do with a with a liability you know. Trump there's a bunch of a bunch of lefties now say well, trump has to be sued for anybody that dies especially now we he's done this. We're GONNA watch those people who went to sturgess and we went here and the people who went to his rally in particular and find out if they have it and and they should be able to sue the president for causing sickness and death. and. It. The interesting thing is the attorney that was supposed to support that on CNN or MSNBC. Even as he was not taking the strong position. You're right. You're right. He didn't need as you know he needs to do. He argued the case why you can't possibly sue somebody over that. and. That fits into our argument about measurements. You know what? If they had six thousand people and they were at the door and they got everybody's name go in and check them out for the next three weeks or two weeks to find out who Came up a positive. What does it mean? This are Hawaiian positive tasks me nothing and you wouldn't know the timing and if they don't get sick, they really aren't a threat to anybody. So but once again, that's big in the news just to play politics politicization of the. Republic. don't participate in that little trick either your, but they do under these circumstances I think the viruses the. Obvious victim medical care is the victim and. Well. Maybe someday some people come along and maybe voucher will lose some of his credibility. Yeah. Well, if you go to the trump rally or if you go to a motorcycle rally. You want to kill people. If you be them rally, you want to save people so. Is a really smart that way it really knows but. And you alluded to you know which was going to be our main topic, but it is a good topic and it really plays together and that is the further politicization of the pandemic. But the good news story is that the wall is coming down. The Berlin Wall of lies is being shipped away and here's something that caught our attention over the weekend. Let's even look at this first clip because it's worth looking at. This is great. Public Trust in CDC FAO cheesy and other top. Health officials is evaporating what a great word evaporating. There's a new poll that was done by the Kaiser. Family Foundation completely objective nonpartisan organization found that public trust in the CDC and faculty evaporating especially among Republicans, which is interesting and this look at a poll that we have. There's a chart that we have. This is fascinating Dr Paul because this I think speaks volumes about the fact that the people are done with corona virus, the number of people, the percentage of people who believe the worst of this virus is behind us has met up with those who believe the worst is yet to come. This is the first time they have intersected. This is a turning point in this poll was released on September the tenth, just a couple of days ago, and this I think is the most optimistic encouraging thing that I've seen in months seeing those two lines intersect means that most Americans are done with it. What I'd like to see happen here in the next. Day or two is people who are challenging it and. No it's not a strict laws a recommendation go to the store and they started pestering him why don't you have a mask on? They should have a little car deer and say information that the epidemic is over. Having. The epidemic is over. But? You know is with with all this stuff that's going on who came out with with a report. Said there's been twenty nine million cases with pitch. A lot of people died from that a lot of people did die but it was it was Totally distorted and I'm going to restate this because I think it's so important the different, the the the different definition between an infection and a case. If. You're positive your you have You're an infected, but if you don't get sick, you're not a case. Everything is reported cases. This thing that they just reported there were three hundred, seven, thousand new cases. They're not new cases they're not new sick people to. Your charts have shown. The hospitals are empty emergency rooms are empty and yet there are thousands and thousands of new cases every day but I. You know the tests aren't reliable. That's one thing that people should take into consideration but but the other thing is even if they're even even if they're positive and you have more is because we do more testing United States. Way High on positive tests mainly because we'd probably have are eager beavers, WanNa, make money off this, make a lot of tests and different tests around there. So there's numbers are high, but it has nothing to do with good medical policy know someone said. This is the only a pandemic in history where you gotta get a test to see if you have it. Indeed, it does sound callous but the fact of the matter is that most of the people who died we're going to die this year anyway and it is a tragedy and it's sad and it's terrible. But we we knew from the we saw from the recent release on Co Morbidity. To three or four co morbidity in about ninety four percent of the deaths from from from from covid. But there were a couple of numbers from this from this fascinating. Kaiser. Family. Foundation survey US confidence in the CDC has fallen sixteen points since April overall. But among Republicans and this is what I would be worried about if I were the Democrats among Republicans in and or Republican. Governors like certain governor of certain, very large state. In the south, we will remain nameless among Republicans. It has fallen thirty percentage points since April confidence in the CDC confidence and faith in Falconry is down ten percent overall among Americans, but it's down thirty percent among Republicans Republicans are sick afoul, Ouchi sick of the CDC they're smelling the politization politicization of this virus and they're done with it. Yes, and like I mentioned a minute ago. This also represents assuming responsibility and taking your own risk. Since there is risk you know with the virus and all, but the the people who go to these rallies and things, and it's sort of defy the wisdom of our leaders They're taking a risk a small risk, but they're making the decision fouled. She's not making the decision and I think people this is a sign that people want their freedoms back. When somebody comes out and says open up Texas and open up you know the country. Let's go get out of here. They're talking about give me back my freedom which I'm entitled to in a Natural Way and you had no right to take it away from me. You know but but you wonder why people are losing faith in foul g well, here's a clip that should be a good indication as to why people are sick it. Let's look at this next clip. Here's foul. She again, it's almost like he gets upset when he's not in the headline. So he says something crazy foul g Americans can go to theaters once vaccine has existed for almost a year we'll doctor who are you to tell Americans when they can go to theaters are not an in fact, there's a reason probably why the CDC is losing its credibility. You know there's a lot of fires going on in the Western States California Oregon, it's a real serious problem. Usually, people are wanting to wear masks to protect while the came out with an interesting report. Let's put this up. CDC's given a warning to people cloth masks that are used to slow the spread of covid nineteen offer little protection against the wildfire smokes they do not catch small particles found in wildfire smoke that can harm your health. Well, Ladies and gentlemen. Those small particles are many many many times. Bigger than the COVID nineteen virus. So there you go the itself undermining its credibility, but the main thing that people are furious with. As the overwhelming evidence that states that did not lockdown did not suffer. The consequences of even states that did and here's a tweet from somebody we know actually has a pretty good way of putting it. If we can look at this, this is senator from Kentucky Rand Paul. The US now slightly exceed Sweden in per capita deaths for covid the difference government dictates. Destroyed the US economy with lockdown. Sweden did not suffer the economic depression from lockdown while the nanny staters learned from their terrible mistake. Good tweet. Yeah. You know the other thing that I think plays a role in this is in foreign policy. We heard the debates you know where people will say well, we can't leave now because we've lost ten thousand people. And we have to save face you. We can't say we've wasted wasted these lives went in there. We've expanded these lives and now they see no signs of victory. But all they can do is say we have to save face and they keep doing that was that was the Vietnam thing that went onto, we kill sixty thousand Americans. So I think there's a little bit of this even when the when the facts come out here will the politics play a role in it? No matter what it is if we can, if we can blame if we can blame trump and all this stuff they will, but they keep doing the same thing over again, they haven't given up the principle of. The vaccine vaccinations the massive vaccination in lockdown I mean out g they're always planning for the next one and they're going to they're going to have trouble. They have to be awfully frustrated pretty soon, they're going to have to take tranquilizer. Couple of them. You know we wanted to talk a little bit about an article that Jeff Tucker and it's on the Ron Paul Institute website Fema must read it. It's a really good one. It's not spend a Lotta time on it, but the point really is, and he he he he takes off from this new poll. Right when it shows that Americans are sick afoul g they're sick of the CDC sick of being pushed around Ho. There's a new study showing the people that dare to go out to restaurants have an increasing chance of corona virus but Jeff Tucker and encourage people read it. He rips that report to shreds of the. Methodology is so shoddy in fact that even suggest the opposite is true. Yeah. But they're not going to back down unless unless the people back up you know in and just say enough is enough and I think that's what's going to happen. But I think that you know they've complained about trump his first comments about when he heard about the virus and said, well, this could be bad in turns around and says, I don't want to cause hysteria but right now hysterical with him again because he had the audacity of allowing people who voluntarily come together and listened to a speech this always drove the left. Yeah, you know the speech is you know we wouldn't wanNA dissect the speeches from a libertarian view. But the whole thing is is, is all of a sudden. You know they were I I sometimes think some of this is just to stop trump from having rallies. Because that was his whole campaign. That's what he did for four years. Now, you just have big rallies and I think they were Jealous Jealous of him and jealousy sometimes. Lead to hate, and it's turned into hey but I think was a lot about jealousy. The economy is doing well and this sort of thing, and it wasn't because we had Austin Economics introduced. It was the fact of course we printed a lot of money and you know sort of temporarily helped out but it's it's I think a good thing that the rally occurred I think the Democrats are just cry babies and they think that you know nobody is supposed to be able to go to a trump rally and not die. Hysterical about this. You think that they would see they had four years to come up with a better plan to get elected and then trump's gonNA kill you. You know speaking of Stereo just WanNa put put this emily quick Houston I can report alcohol is still completely bonkers after church. Yesterday we wanted to go to our favorite Pizza Place Start Pizza in Houston we know the place very well, and there is a table literally right at the doorway cannot get past the doorway with the tables there and so. I was in the parking lot and I called restaurants that hey I know. I know there's a mask mandate or whatever but there's a table right there. You know. Can we just walk in right at that table you have to wear a mask to enter the restaurant she said says, yes but the tables right there it's literally a foot from the door. No, you can't come in have to wear a mass then you can take off your mask when you sit down. I said, forget it. We went home and made our own pizza but this is Terry in an insanity you know that okay. Well, yeah. Now that is the rule. There is that table there come on in you know happy to take your money I'm sure they need it. It's just it's not going away. It's a tragedy but I think what we're talking about today. Means that we do have signs that people are getting tired of I. think that's the answer. I've said this many times you know the philosophers, the people who are in our universities they create the institutions like black lives matter and the radical. Marxist approach but ultimately, you have to have the people with you. Government is a reflection of the people so. Ideology that will. Influence the people and I think we're sort of in in between on this now because. People have have to realize that if we get out of this show term things which we've been doing for years that you have to get more basic on the philosophy that we have because we're still economic intervention. This we're interventions overseas. We still believe in the Federal Reserve we believe that deficits don't matter and that is what has to change. So I think we're in a temporary political fight because it's it's it's so precarious I think it has given the far-left in the Marxist. A little bit of encouragement and they're you know prepared or more album out there than I ever dreamed they were so they're prepared for, but I think I. Think those of us who believe in liberty and The elimination of eighty percent of our government I think we have an opening here and the people just you know when I think is really going to occur when it finally dawns on them and that's what happened to. So he's done on the Soviets never delivered. And they still live with for a long time I just hope Americans, wake up a lot so they can't deliver they just can't they print money and guess what the rich people get richer and the poor people who support it and are in the trenches they they don't get it. So it's a failed system. So I think that you know once the government can't pay for it. We're GONNA have a lot more people, join us and say what is the answer just peak around and look at our history and look at some common sense and look at your days ours don't you WanNa be a free person you to have to government permission when you can go to a restaurant. This sort of thing that's should wake up a lot of people I hope we can wake up a few I. Hope we wake up more than a few today. Yeah. Well, there is a great populist. Message to be, made about libertarianism GONNA move segue toward my closing. I do want to remind our viewers especially are super chatters that we're going to. We've got two weeks where we weren't able to roll last week because Monday was a holiday. So we're GONNA roll two weeks of Super Chat James Brawl has been one of our most. Super Chatter. So James shot out to you. You're a great guy we appreciate your support. So after the show, we'll see the names of people help keep us going but let's Talk to police to a couple of really quick graphs. This is the second wave in Europe. This is what everyone is clamoring to shut down. Put this up real quick. The top is cases. Look at those cases climb the bottom is death. Look at those tests disintegrate evaporate. This is a case. DEMOC. Not An epidemic go to the next, and that's the UK. Here's France same thing in France no deaths increasing cases go to the next one. This is the Spain same thing. No one's dying a lot of cases. The next one in Spain by the way, the the police tried to arrest someone without a mask on the people from the village came in and in. Frightened the police often they ran away with the next one in the Netherlands. Italy. Same thing. No deaths some cases one more. Netherlands same thing. So there you have it, and this is interesting though this is a UK which is starting this crazy not coincidentally six, six, six plan where only six people can meet and in a few other things. Let's look at. This is the UK this is fascinating Dr Paul. This is their desks and see how that next clip. This is the Kobe deaths by day of death in England and look at it's almost done when the pups reopen and then look what happens facemask mandatory note massive second wave goes here there is no second wave and you are here this tells the story of what's happening the government in the UK is off of its rocker. Let's come a little closer to Texas as we as I finished up Dr Paul, go through these really quick. This hospital sends us in the US look at those numbers hospitals are emptying out next one please. this is closer to home. This is Texas deaths per day look at that decline massive decline. The only reason the numbers look bigger is because they're harvesting old debts. Let's look at the next one. and. This is something that we've talked about a few weeks ago. That's why people tune into the Liberty Report Dr Paul would ahead of the game, this is Bloomberg. Finally realising Houston's Daily covid nineteen tally inflated by months old cases Bloomberg finally seeing what they're doing. They're cooking the books in Houston I wish governor Abbot would have a look at this and if he has a look at that, he might want to look at this next clip to this Parkland hospital closes cove nineteen hundred s hospitalizations. Cease, its third floor tactical care unit was empty. So they had to close it out. My final were dropped Paul that I haven't mentioned in a few days. Let's look at this next clip really really quickly this is really disgusting. This is from an elementary school he want to talk about is this education or is this indoctrination? These were the kiss nothing wrong with these logs, but this is an elementary school. So again, if people are frustrated, there is a solution and it's in the next clip. and. That's go pay a visit to Tom Words if we get that next clip going please. Pay A visit to Tom. Woods Ron Paul School Dot Com. We're using it. Your kids are going to enjoy you're GONNA enjoy Tom. Woods has got some discounts for you itself taught and you're going to raise some pro liberty kids Ron Paul homeschool dot com very good and you know if. You, look around you'll find charge that will contradict everything Daniel said because they changed the definition and we talk about this all the time cases versus an infection and they call any anybody has positive K positive test is a case which isn't true. So they've changed the definition and then also they've had this they had this mistake of of making the projections and it was a one percent versus the point one percent and it meant the difference of millions and millions of people. And that's when the scare tactics came but they really don't talk about and I say, well, we may do you think the left is GonNa come up and say you know we really messed up. We missed judge this because somebody mix the fingers up I'm sorry I didn't catch it but we went along with it and we still do that because we can get a chart that shows cases are going up as long as we. Get, more tests done in the past good. We will. We put all the tests together. We don't really care and the more unreliable. The are the better because we can show a charter. The case is going up has nothing to do with what Daniel just showed you is that the infections in the deaths are going down and that that is really you know the important thing and I think we are at a turning point and this. Hope, it's all positive and a lot can happen between now and November, and you know long term you know what's going to happen in this country is that we will be forced one time to the to you know pay attention to deficit spending and too big government. Yes. These are technical things that are important their political things no matter what we do now politicized and certainly corona virus has been politicized but in a very. Serious matter because it means a lot of extra money lockdowns, violation civil liberties, and the American people are too complacent as far as I'm concerned they should look at it and say look at what our president's doing this to me is astounding that the president can be in their face and I don't think he's endangered anybody's live in the people that that were allowed to see that last night I don't think it was wasn't on national. Television, there was very hard to find that that speech, but he is this huge crowd of having a good time the president having a good time and all of a sudden maybe the epidemic is over I. think that's the good news, the amit the epidemic is over tell somebody today call up your Nick your list right to tell them. Hey. Trumpet. TRAVIATA. The epidemic is over and this deal with the real problems that we should be dealing with. It is the real problem is authoritarianism versus liberty, and you'll solve all your problems, and then of course, what we have to have is people who are involved in delivering the news and teaching our university to have some type of moral basis to what they're doing and see if we can find a few people that still contain their virtue and try and try. To do things honestly and right now we're starved for that and that's why this hodgepodge is coming up. But really if you think about personal liberty the right to your life, the right to make your own choices, the right to make take risks and the responsibility of taking care of yourself your family believe me a lot of problems we go ray rather quickly. When I. Thank everybody for Tuning in today to deliberately report. Please come back soon.
"How are the readjust remember today? They're not I mean they they sort of vanish. On this episode of Transition Virginia, it represents the promise and the tragedy of reconstruction. The Re adjusters with Paul Lebanon their successes thumb ways really invigorated their rival and delegate Schuyler van Valkenburgh. Your democracy is only as the as the people who participate in join us for a deep dive into a forgotten moment in history when blacks and whites formed progressive coalition in the eighteen eighties all that and so much more on this episode of Transition Virginia. All Welcome to Transition Virginia. The podcast they usually examines transition of power from Republican to. Democrat. Although today we're going to do something a little different. We're GONNA get in our time machine and go back to the eighties the eighteen eighties I'm. And I'm Thomas Bowman Today on the pod. We're going to take a break from examining the transition from Republican to Democrat and look at transition from Bourbon to readjusted. Wait Wait Thomas Thomas did you say Bourbon, yeah but calm down at today Oh. All right. All right to help us navigate through the transition from Bourbon Democrat, to the by racial and radically progressive readjusted coalition. We have an amazing panel. Paul eleven good is the former president of the Virginia Historical Society. He's currently president of the George C Marshall Foundation doctor. Levin. Good. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to the conversation and we're also joined by delegates. Schuyler van Valkenburgh a Democrat from Henrico as a member of the House of delegates. He witnessed the transition of power from Republican to. Democrat but delegates. Van. Valkenburgh isn't just a garden variety politico. He's also civics teacher at Glen Allen High School and he's about to take us to school delegate Van Valkenburgh. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me for having the on and thank you for doing this topic. I think it's it's a really interesting Virginia history. It is a really interesting topic admittedly a bit. Quirky but let's jump right into it. One of the reasons that the struck says worth talking about thinking about is when the Democrats took power recently, there was a lot of talk about as being the most Progressive General Assembly in the history of Virginia to which I responded. Wait a second. What about the eighteen? Eighty s there was this group called the readjust yours that had. Increases. For Public Education that repealed the poll tax that increased taxes on corporations that increase funding for state asylums that had money for higher education that abolished the whipping post I mean, this is a by eighteen eighties standards extremely progressive, even radical Doctor Levin. Good. I wouldn't start by setting the scene here. So when the readjusts are formed and take power in the General Assembly in. Seventy nine give us the setting here. So this is like we're not even talking about reconstruction anymore. Reconstruction is like nine years past give us a window of what was going on in the late eighteen seventies that allowed this to happen. Well, I guess you're right to point out that reconstruction was over ended in Virginia and eighteen seventy when Virginia was readmitted to the. Union. But there was kind of this interim period questions were being determined as to who was going to be allowed to hold power. you it enfranchised the state, African American population. There were African Americans winning local offices. So the political social kind of setting was was really kind of a bit in flux. You know when you had some politicians and figures from the prewar Arrow returning and trying to get back into power and you had new voices being heard. So it was just a lot of tumble at the time and it created I think this unique situation in Virginia history where there was this. Void and the void in some ways was really filled by as you mentioned, the adjuster what comes to be called a readjust her party, and also it is important to point out that one of you know the key debate in this entire period is a financial debate. The the Commonwealth's finances are really hamstrung by the issue of prewar debt which sounds really boring except this is we're talking about more than probably half of the State's budget is being paid in interest payments. For the debt that it incurred. In. The antebellum period mainly building things like roads and railroads and canals, all sorts of internal improvements which. I'm sure. Delegates. Van. Valkenburgh, you know talks to students about sometimes in that in that pre war era that era of improvements the Virginia had invested in these things borrowed money to do it. And then of course, there most of them are destroyed by the civil war, and now they're left trying to figure out how they're going to pay this massive debt this in these interest payments and do everything else they need to do. And this question really lingers and hangs over the head of all this politics. We're going to get to the legacy later on in the podcast but delegate van. Valkenburgh. I'm GonNa sort of hinted that right now at the top of the show, which is how we think about the readjust now in the modern world, like what is their legacy? How do we think about this time period today? Yeah, that's a good question and I think there's there's two things that I think we should address when we talk about it I think. One thing we have to note is that the reason why they were even possible is kind of the structure that allowed them to come into power. In. So when you look back kind of the history of of Virginia politics, you look back at the history of Virginia Governance we we've had many constitutions you had the constitution seventeen, seventy, six constitution of eighteen, thirty, the constitution, eighteen, fifty one, and it's really only with the constitution of eighteen sixty nine which provided African Americans the right to vote which I did not have a poll tax was added. It was done by the readjusting now, but it was only within the context of that of that constitution that this moment could even rise and I think that speaks to how important it is to have a constitution that facilitates. Democratic participation whether that's in the vote or how you draw the lines. You Know Rep Tartar talks about the Great Gerrymander of eighteen thirty, which was basically baking into our constitution, the legislative power for the eastern part of the state, and what that did was give slave owners the power in Virginia all the way through until eighteen, eighteen, sixty, four in the nineteen, sixty, nine with the kind of postwar constitutions I? Think. That's one thing that's really important to know is how the fundamentals help lead to different policies in different politics, and then the second thing is it is an interesting moment is an interesting moment about what matters to people. Coming out of this, the debt was the important thing. There's this huge conversation around school debt. So the Eighteen seventy eight, the general MB passes a school appropriations bill and the Governor Vetos it. When you look back at the language of his veto and why he vetoed it is incredibly inflammatory but it's basically talking about we're GONNA pay off this debt and schools is optional thing. And then that kind of folds in that leads to Mahone the confederate general turned egalitarian who calls a conference and says, you know this conferences for anybody who wants to come in makes kind of explicit call to people from both races and out of that. You could this coalition that exists in almost you know immediately after once they're successful, the rug is kind of pulled out from under them because the debt is no longer the important thing in race kind of respect to the forefront, and so I think it speaks to. The contingency of politics as well and how coalitions will change, and you know how you guys talk about the transition from Republican to Democratic power and how maybe this General Assembly. Assembly was the most progressive in history and maybe it was. But you know what that means in two years is going to be a lot different because some of these issues have now been taken off the table or have been or maybe have been taken off the table on what does that mean for politics in two thousand and twenty, two to twenty four, right So I think. The lesson is both structural but also the kind of day today politics in what issues drive people in eighteen seventy, eight poor white folks poor black folks were incredibly concerned about schools in the debt issue didn't play. five years later. Everybody agreed that the readjusts did the right thing debt or seemingly right. They put it to bed in the issue became about race again. and. So I think those are two kind of interesting lessons. And I think what? Telling you know Michael Getting back to your question. There is how are the readjusts remembered today? We'll. They're not. I mean they they sort of vanish there this little weird interim period between reconstruction and you know the reemergence of the Democratic Party and the the you know essentially the the machine democratic politics that dominate Virginia from then you know the eighteen ninety s until the nineteen. Well apparently to the civil rights movement, and probably you could argue at least until the eighties. So it really is whether it is conscious and deliberate or not the readjust just vanish. No I mean that's that's a really interesting point. In fact, that's one of the reasons I wanted to do this podcast is because everything that we're about to talk about actually challenges the narrative that have in their head about how what happened in the eighteen hundreds you know like. I think in the popular mind it's okay. The civil war happened the confederacy was vanquished but almost immediately white supremacist to power and started you know a government and so they just sort of skip over this brief but radical period of time when black people had power and held political office and were part of a coalition that did incredibly progressive things and got rid of the tax and did criminal justice reform it had mental health reform reactor education. and. I mean there's all this. So it's really it challenges the narrative that people have in their head because it just doesn't make sense with what people think that they know about history. So doctor, Levin? Good. Let's talk about language a little bit. So I think a lot of our listeners are going to say readjusted what the heck is a readjustment and then Bourbon. Made this at the script at the top of the show made this joke about Bourbon like what explained to us the playing field in eighteen seventy nine what is a bourbon and what exactly is a rid or what do they want to readjust While the readjusting are taking their name from their attitude toward Virginia's public debt, and this notion that they thought that the debt that they were saddled with was gonNA cripple the state, make it unable to fulfill its promises about public education and all sorts of other things and so there You know there's sort of reason they're proximate reason for being is to readjust that debt to repudiate part of it to adjust the interest rate downwards. Let me ask a question about that. So the debt is huge. This is pre war debt and war dead and so what was The debate like if you want if you supported paying off the debt who were you and why what was your motivation if you did not want to support paying off the debt? Who what kind of group were you associated with them? What was the motivation they're sort of what's the debate about paying off the debt versus not paying off the debt? Yeah. I. Think over I mean maybe overly simplistically but those who wanted to the funders as they called themselves they wanted to fully fund the debt were more the business class, the affluent the the the wealthy elite. Bargains the verbs which comes from the Libor Bowl, the European royal elite of sort of idea of of what the Bourbon, not not the not the whiskey variety comes from. So that's Kinda that that class of people the readjusting as as Schuyler just mentioned, were you know this kind of coalition of poor and working class whites and blacks You know it's a some others thrown in like William Mahone who will talk about? I'm sure was a strange character in quite quite interesting. and. And so this notion that what they what they wanted to be able to do was fulfilled the promise of. All the things you mentioned, public education You know higher education, all of these things that were to benefit. A wider range of Virginians and if you're pay more than half of your your in your state budget every year paying more than half toward this interest it was you're not going to allow you to do that. So he's going to continue to benefit the the funders. You know. They really had a couple of motivation for people who wanted to pay the debt in full. You know one they kept talking about a matter of honor its honor to pay the debt, we need to fulfil our state honor. which you know it sounds good I think. But let's also face fact they were also worried that if the debt was repudiated, it would make Virginia kind of a pariah among moneyed interests who might invest in Virginia again. So there was worry that if he repudiated the debt, you drive investment away. And I think that that those two things both the honor of paying that debt in some ways and the the business ramifications we're driving, we're driving them. and I would also add in there too that you have to remember that in Virginia and in much of the south. This kind of concept that the everyday person should be able to vote or the everyday person should have access to education. Was not kind of baked into the populace the funders you know when you look back to the eighteen, seventy eight veto message governor holiday he's a, he's basically saying look we have education for the people who need it and they can go and get it. We don't need to fund education for All these folks and so it's not just. funding the debt although it certainly I think is the is the main thing but there is also just an inherent belief that everyday people shouldn't have a say in elections in don't need public education and that that that lineage goes back to the founding fathers in and the kind of folks who were arguing in this kind of classical Republican philosophy that it was the free. Holders and the people who had leisure time who could get an education and in represent the kind of common good whether that's the common good of Virginia or the common good of the United States, and of course, that's butting up against the reality of Jacksonian. America it's butting up against the reality of the reconstruction amendments and it's kind of you've got these two worlds and I. Quote from one of the one of the African. American. Men who came to the convention that Mahone called to create a new party the readjusting. And he says, you know it's this freed slave he he's from new and he says as to the debt, we don't WANNA pay a cent of it. We think we paid our share of it by our long years of servitude. You'd think it kind of that argument and you think that language of and it's it's it's it's true when it's fascinating horrifying though I have a question. How does a biracial political coalition? Actually a whole political party in Virginia, which is spires to break the wealth and power of privilege. Come to be led by a former confederate general. Yeah that's a great. That's a great question Here's where maybe a opportunity to talk about William Mahone. Who you know really becomes the figurehead of the party he he's. He as you mentioned I mean he is a A. Say. Confederate, general. He's actually involved in one of the more horrific events. perpetrated by the confederacy in eighteen, sixty, four at Petersburg if you've ever visited the battlefield and seeing the crater that was created Union Union miners. Dug under the confederate lines and blew up. try to create a gap in the line and what ended up happening was A. as. Union troops poured into that gap. They found that actually putting themselves into rather a gap really into a pit crater where they were sitting ducks and a lot of African American troops were involved in that and were singled out to be massacred by among other officers involved when Mahone. So this is a guy with a really. I mean, Bizarro back story if you were picking the leader of a biracial coalition coalition which I do think lend some credence. To the detractors who say he was really looking at this as a matter of political expediency more than anything else he had been. He'd been a Democrat he came out of the the war A. Member, what they call the Conservative Party conservative faction, which were mainly prewar Democrats and you know I think he found you know he ran for he ran for. Governor and lost and I think he found this was a different a different route to political power I. Think MOANS. Commitment to racial equality needs to be held in a great deal of question Any certainly saw this as an opportunity. Now, I don't maybe not being completely fair to him, but he you certainly have to at least. Afgha- that question and one of the interesting things about Mahone I heard this from someone a few years ago you know. Mahoney. There's never been a great biography of Mahone. and which would also lend us may be some some aid in deciding why did he do this? And the reason Friday the most prosaic reason I've ever heard he has a massive collection of papers that he left to posterity. There are Duke University, his handwriting is so bad. But the people have people have tried to go in the papers. To do a biography of that's fascinating character and they've given up because they can't deter decipher handwriting saw his motivations are lost. In some way just because the man had appalling penmanship but. But let's mind-blowing if you stop and think about it like it. had better penmanship how much more we would know about the eighteen hundreds in Virginia but I didn't mean interrupt you I think it's Fun I would have to You know what I think what's interesting is he comes about in a moment and I think we should be cynical about the reasons why he did what he did but I also think it's interesting right? You'RE A he's he's a confederate general he was in the Conservative Party. And he splits off on this readjustment issue in know there's two ways politicians can go in this moment, and one is to kind of fully embrace the eighteen, sixty nine constitution voting rights for all and to try to create a coalition and the other path. is to try to you know create amendment poll tax, which some folks did and to try to suppress the vote which you know after Mahone other white folks. Do you know they decide not to try to amend the constitution, but you have to famous laws from eighteen, eighty, four and eighteen, ninety four, which essentially disenfranchised the entire African American community by creating these local electoral board's the Democrats could control which kind of become the foundation for the bird machine. And he doesn't do that and I think if we're going to give him credit, we give them credit there, which is a in a moment where he could try to weaponize the constitution of the General Assembly as a form of suppressing the African American vote. Instead when he dies in, you go to those papers you can find a list of black pastors that he frequently corresponded with because he was engaging in interracial alliances, and so I think we should be cynical about his his reasoning. But at the end of the day, he ended up embracing a more FR in franchise any ended up. Communicating and being in touch with in in helping patronage for the black community and I think that's a it's a really interesting story because so many people in the south didn't do that. Yes. So the sky full of contradictions, confederate general who later becomes a railroad president he was president of a railroad and that's actually how he got involved in politics because he was trying to help himself financially and then decides in eighteen seventy nine to found a new political party. This is another really in my mind really bizarre part of this is the timeline how quickly all of this comes together. So Eighteen, seventy, nine, he has this convention that you mentioned. He forms the readjustment party the same year they take control the General, assembly they had fifty six seats in the House fifty, six, hundred seats they had twenty four seats in the Senate is twenty, four out of forty seats. So that's pretty decisive. Win For having formed the party that year. Eighteen seventy, nine, they take control the General, assembly eighteen, eighty, one, they elect a governor and then in eighteen eighty, two, they win six of the ten seats in Congress, House seats in the Congress. So in the course of just three years, the readjustments capture the General Assembly the governor's office both seats in the US Senate and a majority of the House seats Doctor Levin Good How did that happen? Well, yea. You catagor- you're sort of show the the the meteoric rise. Of course, there's unequally meteoric descent I. mean it it it comes and it goes very very quickly But I go back to what I said to begin with which was there was really this. Kind of strange period after Virginia's readmitted where the parties are still figuring themselves out there. There's a foothold of Republican is in especially in the western part of the state you know in the in the mountains and valley part of Virginia, you have these free blacks you have A. You have a really unsettled political situation which I think allows for that rise to come. So quickly because you don't have you know you didn't return to classic. So dual party you know vying for vying for control or single party control the way you did prewar week party went away and prewar Virginia. The Democrats essentially had almost unrivalled electoral success. So you didn't really have the reestablishment of that. There's so a lot of flux which I think is why? You know why this party kind of is able to come about and come together. So quickly and I think clearly, it was also tapping into something that was of great interest to this. Biracial coalition of people who had long been. White and black kept out of the political process that they had not been allowed to vote and they had not had say economically. And socially in. Virginia Direction. In. That would add to that that I think one of the reasons why if you look at the coalition, the coalition is South Central and southeast African Americans the African American population was at its greatest flood of free. Slaves. And it was cities where debt in public schools are a more pressing issue in it was out in the West and if you if you look at the history of Antebellum America, it's the history of the West being disenfranchised is around the eighteen forties where the western part of the state becomes kind of dominant population force but the General Assembly reflects kinda slave owners in the. East power in an the eighteenth thirty in the eighteenth fifty constitutions it's important to note that those those constitutionally Gerrymander the General Assembly to give the power to the eastern part of the state. You know the eighteen thirty constitution broke Virginia into four regions and then gave each region a certain number of delegates senators in a skewed to the east and in eighteen fifty one rewrite. the Senate skewed to the East something like twenty to thirty seats and so you got a lot of folks in the West who prior to eighteen fifty one can't vote because of the freeholder requirements. who can't get anything past even through their representation because of the skew General Assembly, and then all of a sudden eighteen, sixty nine in that constitution kinda opens up all of that right and allows more people to vote. It allows for a little bit more regional less disparity. And it speaking issues that directly relate to this kind of east west divide and WHO's paying taxes in one of those taxes four remember the western part of the state has less slave owners has lessslaves has historically not liked the slave power and I think that creates a perfect storm But of course, right the flip phlebitis, it creates a perfect storm and then as soon as has gone, it just as quickly goes away 'cause right it's gone within three years. Well. Let's take a quick break because when we come back, we want to talk about what the readjust did during their time in power delegates Schuyler Been Valkenburg, Dr Paul Good. Thank you so much. We'll be right back. And we're back on transition. Virginia we're not talking about the transition of power from Republican to Democrat. Instead, we're talking about the transition of power from Bourbon Democrat conservative Democrat to readjust this almost today unknown coalition of Bi Racial Coalition of progressive politicians that did all kinds of things. So let's examine what they actually were able to accomplish when they were in power I, read this list at the top and it's Worth repeating because it's just sort of mind blowing. If you think about this is the eighteen eighties we're talking about the increased funding for public education they repealed the poll tax they increase taxes on corporations they increased funding for state asylums they increase money for higher education. They abolished the whipping post Doctor Levin Gun talk about the whipping post and the significance of abolishing the whipping post in the eighteen eighty S. Well if you think about public spectacle of criminal punishment, especially in times of slavery, the public whipping post is perhaps the most. Striking example of the the the levers of control that white elite bridge held over everyone else, and so you can imagine if you were living in a maybe a courthouse. Town, a county seat. Very. Often there was a public whipping post which could be used. By for crimes committed by slaves brought to the courthouse square and publicly flogged Mathur's who didn't want to do it. Themselves could actually pay local sheriff to do the same thing and it was public spectacle that was meant to reinforce the power structure very very clearly to everyone You know obviously whites could be flawed to, but it was mostly mostly punishment that was meant to keep an African American population in line. So I think for the African American. Ri. adjusters. Both symbolically, and in terms of you know modernizing the processes of criminal. Justice. Abolishing the whipping post was an incredibly powerful symbol and I'm and I think probably. You know they're they're the probably their influence in the party's platform. As. Much as anything else in that kind of a movement. I'm also kind of curious about the politics here of increasing taxes on corporation increasing taxes on railroads, and then spending that money on public education and higher. Delegate van Valkenburgh is this the beginning of? Liberals. No you know what I think this reflects as kind of thinking about this podcast in thinking about what they did I they would have explicitly said this, but it strikes me that This is an embodiment of a very cohesive kind of idea of what I would call the Frederick Douglass wing of the Republican Party at the time, which is the government being used in order to create kind of inequality of opportunity you. You can just see with the emphasis on education in. Wouldn't have called a K. twelve at the time. Right but K. twelve education a higher ran decrease in Virginia State University. It's all founded on a sense of equality is the first mental silence for African, Americans as well in you know once again, you go back to anti-american you look at the taxation in Virginia and one of the big complaints of folks in the western part of the state was that poor people were being taxed in slave owners weren't and I think what you're seeing is you're seeing a foundation of equality of opportunity of using the government to try to uplift all people and I'll go back to the kind of education speeches they gave If people I'm not GonNa read on. But if people go back and look at the eighteen, seventy, eight veto of governor holiday and then they go back and look at Forgetting the governor's name, the the readjusted Governor Han, Cameron Cameron. You go back and read his statement about the value of public education just in the space of like a year the difference in philosophy behind the to the two. Speeches I mean it's stunning and so I. I don't know the beginning of Texas than liberal but I do think it's the beginning of the idea that the government can be used as a force of good to create a kind of a quality of opportunity, which is, of course, a thread that you see in that certain segment of the Republican Party in the civil war and afterwards which you see in FDR, right which you see in Lyndon Johnson, the Great Society in which I think you could argue see in Virginia Democrats today. So you know I don't think it's a perfect comparison, but I do think you can see lineage. No let me I don't want to jump in with thin with a bit of cynicism here but let's also remember that someone like Mahone loses control of his railroad to outside interests I mean his railroad end up being held by receivership of people in Philadelphia and elsewhere, and so taxing outside companies making money in. Virginia. Is a real a popular thing to be able to propose. So you know you're you're. In some ways you're also That's the kind of something you see in modern politics as well. It's you know this this notion of well. Those who are getting those who are making money off of doing in Virginia or doing business wherever should also pay some price for the things we WanNa, do in Virginia. Info. Virginia's people. That's that's true and also note to that. If you actually look at their tax plan, taxes went down for the average Virginia taxpayer. So they decrease taxes on farmers, the decrease taxes on small businesses in increase taxes on the railroads. In in you know. So what happened is they raised substantially more revenue, but they actually brought down the tax bill for the average Virginian in those series of proposals which I think ties back to that senator or not I think probably both one method explicitly that they use to restore. Virginia's economic base was rebuilding infrastructure or at least that's what they campaigned on Doctor Levin. Good. What did they rebuild when they came to power? Their more notable developments readjust are credited with our things like education I don't I. Don't know that in their brief period, you can attribute an enormous amount of. You know infrastructure improvement and really where where things like railroads common make significant progress in Virginia comes because you do have so much out of state and foreign investment in railroads that penetrate the coalfields in South West Virginia, and so on. In in in that kind of late nineteenth early twentieth. Century period. I WanNa talk about the racial part of the story which is complicated and nuanced. So you had African American members of the General Assembly forming a COA who are mainly Republicans forming a coalition with this readjusting African American readjust as well, and so I mean, just UN's face the coalition itself was Biracial, but it's worth pointing out for the modern listener that they were not in favor of desegregating anything right so To, Doctor Levin good talk about this nuanced from our perspective. It's nuance racial element to this where they're a biracial coalition that actually was not for integration. I I. Don't. I. Don't know on the on the African American side, what the what the feeling was along these regards but only for white readjustments, this was you know black public schools in white public schools. blacking I mean Virginia. You mentioned Virginia State is founded. That's very deliberately at a normal school, a school to create black teachers who can teach in black school So this is not a moment of. You know coming together racially it's I. think it is more a recognition that there are shared interests of the poor and working classes of both races that need to be met that need to be satisfied, and now it was not an turning of that of that order of the races and remember you know this is not an enlightened period racially outside of Virginia I mean this is. Sometimes, it's easy easy to forget that the civil war. Did Not Create you know an instant sort of racial utopia anywhere in the United States it it settled the question of slavery, but it did not settle the question of equality even with the reconstruction acts clearly. So that's you know it it probably is not shouldn't surprise us that someone like William Mahone who was a slave owner before this war fight for the confederacy does not then become the figurehead of a party that is looking to overturn the racial order but is reflecting the reality that there is a block of black political power now and pent-up black desire for. Various services to be rendered by the government that needs to be acknowledged needs to be met, and it is a wing of this coalition who has the power in political clout to demand this of their white partners. and. Also one thing to add their to to kind of even nuances even more. If you look at Mahone himself, he campaigned against the only black Republican running for Congress in Virginia during this time period, and so there was kind of and we'll talk about this when we get to the downfall among the white readjusts tres, how far they were willing. To go it is very limited I think you even arguably at the time, but definitely by modern day comparisons and so I think that's important to note as well. Another aspect of this is that it is by many accounts the first political machine in Virginia which I know probably people have various perspectives on whether or not. It was machine Doctor Levin. Good. Mahone lead a political machine perhaps even you could say Virginia's first political machine. Well Certainly Mahone, recognized. the power of patronage and recognize that there's an awful lot of ground to be made as the leader of this party in the political patrons that he can go out of that leader. I mean I I guess I mean I mean. One, man's machine is another man's. System right I I. I don't know whether I would describe the readjustment machine. As the first machine in Virginia politics certainly, political patronage played a part in. Virginia politics going back to the colonial period. I it. It's doling out favours going out positions and sinecures has always gone on I think Mahone might have been a little more blatant about it. In some ways you know Mahone is in some ways he's a classic newsouth figure in that. If you if you study that period, you know he's a guy certainly on the come I mean he's all about. He's all about money. He's all about. Showing his own money and showing his power. He's not he's not doing it. Subtly you nothing there's nothing really subtle about him. So maybe in some ways, it's the first sort of evident machine or the first machine that doesn't try to in any way math what it's doing and as a precursor to the the Democratic Machine of of the twentieth century. So I guess in a way, it's the first machine, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't push that too far because it's kind of a the logical evolution I think of what of what had taken place but I would say that I don't I don't think it is because I think when you talk about political machines, people talk about entrenching their own power and while he did engage in behaviors that we would associate with a machine you know patronage in correspondence and all these other things did they're out of power so quickly, I actually think if you WanNa talk about the first machine, it's actually his railroad rival. John Barbara who who, kind of helps defeat the readjusting and creates the the kind of modern day. Well, the re constance, the Democratic Party and creates the machine that will lead to the bird machine. Barber campaign managers guy named Thomas Staples Martin who created the Martin machine that of course was by any standards. But you know just because they only held power for a brief period of time doesn't mean it wasn't a machine. It just wasn't a very successful machine at having longevity and part of that. Is something that starts leading toward their downfall, which is there central organizing principle? Was this thing about the debt where they're in disagreement with the other party because the party wants to pay off the debt at the expense of public education and so they campaign on readjusting the debt and not paying it off at the expense of public education? Well, guess what the other party says you don't let your right we shouldn't do that doctor. Levin. Good. The other side essentially folds says you're right right And and they do repudiate the debt by about a third. They reduced the interest rate by half. So they really do succeed in this and I think the Democrats. or their their opponents I think once this passes I think then the pretense of well, this is about honor and all this kind of stuff kind of can fade away and they recognize that this is actually freed whoever follows the readjusts free them up to. Do. A number of different things that they wouldn't have been able to do if they've been fully funding that debt, the way they had claimed they wanted to So yeah, I mean th they managed they managed to do it and I, think it's one of those things ca you know be careful what you what you wish for because I think they did create an environment for themselves where their reason for existing started to wane a little bit I mean when you're sort of almost a one issue for one primary issue party and that issue goes away to a degree then you know it is it is. Probably the best thing for your for your future success. If you can't redefine yourself, it's funny. The mention that because I'm thinking about the Brexit Party. So once brexit happens what uses the BREXIT party anymore. Yeah and one thing that's fascinating I did want to make sure that your listeners ended up realizing too is there's a little funny side piece of the debt, which is when all of this debt is incurred Virginia before the war included West Virginia the West Virginia breaks away during the course of the civil war and there's a long and contentious fight between Virginia and West Virginia as to what portion of that debt West Virginia should. Really. Be Responsible for because were railroads and canals West Virginia that were funded by this and so it actually I don't think it's till Nineteen fifteen or something that it's finally established what dollar amount West Virginia owes toward retiring this debt, which is just kind of a little side note that I thought. It just fascinated me at the time to think that you know they had to take it to the Supreme Court to finally figure this all out. So, delegate Van Valkenburgh, can you put all of these reforms in the context of what's happening nationally and the reason I asked that is because now just like then Virginia's politics often parallels national politics and a lot of ways. So what's going on during this time? Well I mean you're seeing the end of reconstruction you see the north, the northern population losing its will to. Its involvement in the south you see. An economic panic in the mid eighteen seventies that causes kind of a change in priorities. So you're seeing the Republican, party, that goes from the Party of Lincoln, kind of into the party of big business, and so the south is slowly getting its autonomy back in you're getting Kinda slow drip drip that will lead to Jim. Crow, and we were talking at the very beginning of this about how people just kind of think it's it's the civil war reconstruction Jeff. KROGH. But there's really this kind of drawn out period that's occurring. Where there are these kind of possibilities that pop up around a moment like the readjusts tres but as as it starts to settle down, you start to move into the. Start to the gilded age where big business the thing in in the south you start to slowly settle into Jim Crow. That's thirty year kind of evolution into Jim Crow if you look at Virginia specifically wants the readjusting our out. You know you start to slowly get the electoral law change stat disenfranchises African Americans, which you know the machine uses for about twenty years until they don't it's enough in the nineteen o two constitution where they kind of explicit goal is disenfranchise African Americans but you're actually disenfranchises almost everybody and so you know, I think Virginia, in many ways, it's Kinda story. We've been telling us this brief moment of hope where maybe something can happen in I. Think in Virginia happens a little bit more than another southern. States but as the realities of national politics, kind of moves away from the south, you know it's not about the southern issues anymore it's about big businesses of global trade. It's about immigration in the northeast in the late eighteen hundreds, the south is really allowed to kind of become its own place and there's a lot of you know you can look through the history you know the solid sow one party south south is different from the rest of the country and it's in this time period around the adjusters in Virginia after the adjusters where we really start to see that on truly happen and if I could add. Nationally. This is really. The between the end of reconstruction and the First Years of the twentieth century. This is really an incredibly. Tumultuous moment you know the the readjustment movement in Virginia is one example of poor people coming together the same happens in the Midwest. The People's Party the populist movement is a you know it's a farmer's movement thing. You know we're we're done being the pawns of big interest. We're going to stand up for the Yeoman farmer and there's actually some of that in the south is well and you've got labor unrest all across the country as working people say you know we're not going to sit there and just be dominated by management by big business. So there's It's in some ways the readjust your movement with his. On you know the poor and working classes. Is. A part of broad or moment that I think finally by the end of the nineteenth early twentieth century Kinda gets quashed down overall and you do move into what scholars mentioning sort of you know the hegemony of big business and the the sort of linkage of big business and government in a sort of a fairly tight way that really does make it difficult for popular movements to rise up like this again. But there is that period of a couple of decades where there seems to be. Maybe, something else that's going to the possible and I'd also eh to that the Virginia trajectory of disenfranchising African Americans disenfranchising poorer voters has a broader is a broader American narrative I'll go back to Frederick Douglass had this speech in the kind of reconstruction and post reconstruction world that he would give frequently called are on our composite nationality. And he was talking about. The words. He would use the things he was talking about sound a lot like what John Lewis was talking about right. You know who's in the news you know and the kind of message he had about a multiracial democracy of equality. And a positive nationality speech is it is kind of one of out of pessimism because what he's seeing as African Americans be disenfranchised in the south, but he's also seeing Asian Americans disenfranchised in the West in the speech talks about that, and if you look at the the late eighteen hundreds, you've got white southerners who are disenfranchising African American and doing it to a degree that's different everywhere else I wanna make sure we make that distinction but then you also have. In the West, you northeasterners who who are making claims magazines like the Atlantic to limit the vote against the immigrant population has they're not suitable to it. You the Mug won't reformers the government reformer who are. Are really restriction area on these issues, and so it's it is there is a broader kind of moment here happening at the end of the eighteen hundreds in some of our I truly restriction airy voting laws calm during this period where you see these kind of arbitrary voter registration laws where you see these arbitrary electoral board's and how they act. You know I'm from New, York originally, and you WanNa talk about a state that had awful laws in the late eighteen hundreds in some ways does still today go to New York where they put in place these absolutely disenfranchising laws to ensure that Catholics and Jews and eastern Europeans couldn't vote. Let's go and take a break. We are talking with Dr Paul Levin Good. The former president of the Virginia Historical Society and current president of the George C Marshall Foundation, and also our friend delegates. Schuyler van Valkenburgh from Henrico. And we're back on Transition Virginia Brunell going to talk about the fall of the readjustment. So this is a group that we talked about earlier had a meteoric rise to power eighteen, seventy nine. The party is founded in the early part of the year. By the election in November, they were able to gain a majority in both house of delegates and the Senate. They had fifty six out of the one hundred seats mouse twenty, four out of the forty seats and the Senate and the next election cycle and eighty one they kept the general assembly and elected their own Governor Governor Cameron, and then the. Next year and the congressional election they had six out of the ten house seats meanwhile, the General Assembly of course, at this time is picking the US senators. So they pick Mahone who went to the Senate and ran the political machine from his US Senate office and they also picked the other US senator. So they had both seeds of the US Senate. They had six out of ten house of representative seats. They had the house ability. They had the state Senate, they had the governor's office when that's all within three years and then it all falls apart doctor Levin. Good. What happens to the readjustments? It's a really good question. Michael I mean I think we've touched on a little bit of this before in that. I think they certainly achieved some of their goals and I don't know that they had. They had great vision for what the what was going to be next but I think they also their successes in some ways. Really invigorated their rivals, you know I think we were talking a little earlier scholar was talking about the. The constitution and looking at what the Constitution's tell us about certainly those who hold the levers of power and if you look at the kid, the next constitution of Virginia, which is one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one. It is it in some ways almost reaction point by point to the adjusters in their there. And I think what? What really ends up happening is. As? We just talked about a little bit before the break. White Southerners get better at. Figuring out how the new landscape can be controlled to their advantage how the limits of federal intervention in state of matter, such as this, the degree to which local control can be reassumed. You know that that period that we had that we had talked about the kind of whatever you WANNA, call it between reconstruction and the. Solidifying of the of. White control over a place like Virginia you know comes it comes to an end. Not Evenly. But it comes to an end really in that time. As much as anything else because I think white southerners figure out knowing nothing's going to happen to us if we reassert this. Whether it's the the bargain that ends reconstruction whether it's you know the clear weariness of a national Republicans to deal with you know. How how much energy do they have to keep up with the energy of of of certainly what motivated reconstruction, which is to allow for African American voting and other rights, and I think that once they realize but they were not going to be there was not going to be interference long they became increasingly bold and aggressive about reverse course on this and you know in Virginia it it it doesn't Virginia's way is not to be quite as as in your face about it as some other southern states You know you're not just driving blocks away from the polls through you know night night riding and guys in hoods running around, but it takes effect. You know in some of the same in some, the effects are somewhat similar in that it does eventually reassert itself. When you see that you know African Americans working in cities in you know tobacco companies enrichment well suddenly when those tobacco company owners and management can reassert themselves and say you know. We really think this is how things need to be, and we really think if you're going exercise. your franchise. You may not have a place to work here. That's a form of control that begins to take place, and eventually it moves to disenfranchisement within a couple of years. So I think it's just that you know it's it's that moment there was this flash of a great deal of promise and then the. The wielders of power before realize that they can regain power and there's probably not to be consequences for their action and you know we've noted before too. But I mean the issue that brought them together with settled. After that was settled, it allowed the other party to play to racial fears and you know it's it's it's a sad continuing through history that we can see even up to today with some of the ads in the presidential race around urban protests. But you know one of the big moments in that eight hundred eighty-three campaign where the readjusts lose the general. Assembly. Is there an animal? Over a perceived a slight from African Americans to white people that were walking by them in the street, you know some of these kinds of cultural racial. Codes that were informal that white people and black people followed equal and and so that fight led to a huge amount of propaganda that allowed the opposition to win. You know was one of the reasons that the opposition was able to win the election and and you see that playbook and George Wallace you see that play book in Richard Nixon and you see that playbook right now and so when racial issues were able to rise to the four kind of white conservatives were able to re assert power and I would know one thing about that nineteen o two Constitution nineteen, no one of two constitution. Is the members that convention explicitly said, it was about rolling back racial voting rights. They had passed a series of laws in the late eighteen hundreds that allowed them to disenfranchise voters, but they had to do it in a corrupt way. You know they had to rig the ballot box they had to. Throw out legitimate ballots and so when they came to that convention carver glass who becomes a future? Senator. Says Explicitly The convention will inevitably cut from the existing electorate four-fifths of the Negro voters and that was the purpose of the convention. That's a direct quote. And End, they actually cut greater than fifty percent of the white electorate in greater than ninety percent of the black electorate in we became the state with the lowest proportion of adult voters to the early twentieth century to the point where a famous political scientists said that by contrast Mississippi as a hotbed of democracy. Yet I'm glad you mentioned Danville because gamble wed. it's almost it almost created itself as an opportunity for white supremacist to come back and say, this is what happens right the Danville actually, Alexa Majorities Majority City Council is black in eighteen, eighty three, and so this incident, some call it a riot, some just called it a math. Was it was the details are not are not entirely clear, but it was it was custom made to show to white people say look what happens look what happens when African Americans take control of the city this is how white people get treated. And so they they they used it sort of shamelessly in that regard. And this was an era of yellow journalism as well. Right and beard on an environment where you have the Democrats retaking control nationally was that was at grover Cleveland who comes back into power And and so one point that people make who say that Mahone was just a powerbroker in his own right I guess is that he started flipping patronage to Democrats and does that what kind of consequences does that have for? The readjust your party in Virginia. You know I actually I. think There's an interesting point here, which is once grover Cleveland becomes president that Senator Mahone. No longer has the kind of patronage to Dole out the way he used to right so. The change in the national scene actually sort of was one of the things that sort of lead to the demise right and sort of the patronage and the way that they were able to distribute power. And Mahone I mean from the moment you get to the Senate he's very cagey about who's going to caucus with I mean. He's certainly not rigidly adhering to some code of behavior. He's he's looking to see which way the wind blows in a sense, and so it shouldn't be it shouldn't be surprising. Realize Mahone is. In some sense almost a lame duck senator because the readjusted party is falling from power and he's still senator to wet eighteen, eighty, nine, I think So yeah. So the Party is essentially falls apart underneath him and he's he's still serving. So he kinda has to figure out what do I do next I'm not I'm not sure he was overly troubled by in some ways, but he did have to figure out how do i. kind of land this now that my party is basically gone. That's a good point because after he's no longer in the Senate, he runs for governor right in is unsuccessful. So I mean the whole thing kind of falls apart, which leads us to important question, which is what is the legacy of not just home, but the larger readjust her movement. One thing that I think could be significant and worth mentioning is this biracial coalition, which is kind of singular in the United States and the south right Doctor Levin good like what's the significance of this biracial coalition that they put together nineteen eighties? Yeah I mean it's I pointed earlier too. There's a moment when the People's Party, the populists might have done something I mean in. North Carolina and and a little bit in. Georgia. But yeah, you're right in that. It's the only truly successful coalition. Coalition of blacks and whites in the pre civil rights era So I think the legacy of it in that way although it's perhaps not as remembered as it might be it is one of those counterpoint to this notion that somehow. African Americans and whites couldn't work together politically and so I think it does belive that it does be live that myth it obviously has some real lasting legacy in I think the strength of the public. School. movement in Virginia certainly never goes back direction of some of the readjusted enemies would've would have had it had the readjusting not come on the scene so I think that becomes kind of enshrined in Virginia public life and in electoral politics obviously things like State University funding whether it's Virginia State or the expansion of Virginia. Tech. There's some real lasting thing was there. Even. If some of the other things, the poll tax that they remove gets reinstated I mean there are things that don't go away and I think you know in some ways when we look back on it now it's heartening in a way it kind of gives you some psychic income to realize that. There was a point in history where black and white Virginians came together especially those of of certain economic status and said, enough we're GONNA start our power and there's some real. There's some real value in remembering that and it's something that we really ought to. Remember and talk more about and no more about. Yeah and I think it's it represents the promise and the tragedy of reconstruction and how for as far as reconstruction in those amendments win. They didn't go far enough and I think it speaks is speaks to a gun. I'm going to go back to John Lewis kind of what he wrote in his op Ed in the New York Times that was published on the day of his of his funeral, his last words if you will, and he talks about democracy being an action. In democracy being continuous movement, you can't give. And I think they they kind of speak to the sense in which the vote is never enshrines it could he he says can always be taken away in what we see as we see a brief moment where they're able to come together able to get things accomplished some of which I agree the education piece is long lasting some of which isn't, but it speaks to the fact that if you don't continue to cultivate a healthy democracy, you will not get a healthy democracy thirty years after the readjusts their forgotten their buried A convention explicitly meant to a race them and the possibility of them from Virginia. and. And then you know you have the legacy after that of Jim Crow in the bird machine and so I think it speaks to the promise, but it also speaks to the tenuousness of of people being able to participate in continue to participate successfully in democracy. Delegate van Valkenburgh. What lessons learned are there for you as a member of the General Assembly that other members could take from this era of history. Not sure that there's a lot of lessons policy wise from what they do I. I, I think. I think the lesson is ultimately, you can't take anything for granted. You have to continue to shape a coalition. You have to continue to shake things relevance to people's lives. You have to continue to argue for why a multi-racial coalition is necessary. You have to continue to Kinda stand against racial division. Some of their tax policy in some of their school policies are things that I think in Virginia. We can take a lesson from to this day properly funding schools. You know reason I originally ran. I would argue we don't do that and I think that the lessons of how they got to that make a whole lot of sense but I do think the bigger lesson is the equality and democracy peace and I think it's important to recognize that There's never an endpoint it's never over you've never achieved your goal because democracy there's always tomorrow. Now. Recently, in the Capitol building in Richmond, The statue of Robert e Lee was removed from the old house. This is instantly the same house chamber that the readjustment once ruled and delegate Valkenberg tweeted about this about this particular statue and he said many of these statues like that statue of rubber used to be in the old house chamber gifts from other Southern States has recently the nineteen fifties then tweeted let's celebrate the readjust instead. What did you mean by that and how do you think the justice should be celebrated? Yeah, look I mean there's a difference between history and memory right? We want to study history warts and all because we need to know where we were to know where we're going. Never GonNa Change. But what we memorialize and what we hold up to be true I think should be shaped by what we think is important now and you have tour groups that go into that old house building for decades. All they see is a shrine to the loss caused you go in and you look to your left in there's a bust of Alexander Stevens, a Georgian who was the president of confederacy that was gifted to us in nineteen fifty two you look to your right you saw busted Jefferson Davis, and this is sippy man who was the president of the confederacy that was gifted to us from Mississippi state legislature in nineteen fifty three. and. I don't think that that rep you know we need to know that history we need to know that that. That the capital was used for the confederacy and we need to know the that we had a convention at asked us to see from the Union and we did. that. We had former presidents in that convention weeping when we seated tears of joy, we need to know that history, but we need to celebrate the moments where we reached our finest moments right where we lived up to our values lived up to our democracy in Virginia I cannot think of a better moment there's others but I can't think of a better one. Than the readjust there's a kind of what they stood for because they weren't perfect. They don't live up to twenty twenty values Mahone a great example of that. I do think they transcended their moment to live up to a constitutional values in a way that has been very rare in Virginia history and I think that's worth teaching fourth graders. Doctor Levin Good. Any final thoughts about the legacy of this group that's now almost completely forgotten. Yeah I really like what scholars just had to say I'm trying to think how you how you might physically memorial is that I don't know that you want to put up a statue of Mahone Other wouldn't take up much space. He was a very small guys get along lifestyle catch. Yes. Just doesn't aside I love the comment his his wife had when she heard during the civil war that he had received a flesh wounded battle and she said something like well now I know it must be very serious because William doesn't have much flesh to begin with which I thought was a great. Great great comet. He's. He's really a small cadaverous dude. Yeah you know I I i. mean. It's it's hard to say how you How you might spread this legacy a little more widely. you know obviously. In the Sol's is one is one manner that and I'm speaking to an educator here. You know that's one way we kind of. You know we we can say what we value as a as a state is what we decide. We WanNA enshrine in the standards for all their warts and everything. The standards of learning are at least one way to express that as as a society and I think that that's you know that's one way to do it and to continue like this to talk about them and to make sure that you know where when we have opportunities, we bring up this subject and we let people know a little bit more about it and I. Hope this podcast at least take some. Tiny step toward raising. Public awareness about a really interesting and significant. Brief period in the Commonwealth history although I must step in one last thing to say is I. Think when we talk about statues, we typically talk about very important people right. So we're talking about should we have a statue? I'll leave you with this. I think we should do more memorializing everyday people whether it's the Black Union soldiers or it's the average citizen who you know. Let's get that African American guy from new who was at the convention stood up and said you know what I'm more of a readjusted than half the you because I'm I'm all in on this because it's the citizen like that who leads to the readjustment movement. And and it's also when you're citizen in, you go to the citizens capital, you should understand your role. So this is maybe my call that we should. We should recognize the citizenry more than we do because you're democracy is only as healthy as the people who participate in. That is good of a place as any to leave it Dr Paul Levin. Good delegates Schuyler van Valkenburgh. Thank you so much for being on our podcast today and thank you for listening to Transition Virginia find us on spotify apple podcasts. Or. Anywhere. You like to get your podcast. We're on twitter at transition va, and as always you can hear more at Transition Virginia Dot Com.