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"dr oziel" Discussed on The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast

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03:02 min | 7 months ago

"dr oziel" Discussed on The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast

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"dr oziel" Discussed on Killer Cocktails

Killer Cocktails

13:26 min | 2 years ago

"dr oziel" Discussed on Killer Cocktails

"Year any starts competing extol highschool received graduated now I'm not sure I'm guessing he's like getting high school. He starts competing kind of all over the world. He like goes to Israel for this for tournament. Yeah they get to separate penthouse's Marina Delray and Eric at one point gives the Sky Forty K.. To sponsor a rock concert and the guy takes off with the money In there not just in charge of their money their goals are also kind of part of it. And so they're saying you are they blowing through like allowances I'm not I'm not sure. Okay but it sounds like they. They either go to their uncles for advice. Or they said they did but essentially in the interview. They're like rankles road off on all the things we purchased they said it was okay so within the first six months they spent a million dollars impressive. uh-huh yeah In so some two million dollars in six months Bacon I was GonNa say what's the most. What's what thing cost the most? I would do like a world ticket like airplane. World Travel Travel. Okay Oh I'M GONNA food to a world. Yes or Oh yeah how fun yes would it be. You'd you'd have a great show that is you traveling the world eating food. I can have another podcast. It'll be great now now. I've got to be like a show. Oh you had the meeting you got. Yeah what if it's am are. And I'm just like gross care for that. Okay someone cares for it. Yeah I bet you he wrote care for it. Okay so in the the midst of all this. Eric is still seeing his psycho psychiatrist because he he appreciates that relationship and is getting something out and I think he needs to talk to. Somebody killed somebody. Yeah so on October. Thirty first He's he sits down with Dr Rowsell any he says we did it. We kill our parents and he tells them everything how they went down to San Diego to purchase the shotguns with stolen. ID's he's How would they had committed the perfect crime because it was at their house so then have to worry about? DNA cuts already all over the their In like they got the shotgun casings And then he talked about how they dumped the guns in the Myra Tation So that he didn't commit the perfect crime I am because the guns were in their cart. Like being happened to luck out that the investigation didn't spin towards them. At all had it they would have been immediately. They caught I mean that's part of the sociopath. Correct Yeah Yeah. Good point so lyle finds out that Eric Eric has confessed to Dr Zeal in November. Second both brothers go to see the good doctor not such a doctor. So Lyle Search to threaten Dr Oziel is yield. And if you tell anyone blah blah blah blah blah but what they don't know is that Dr Oziel is now taping every single session with them and He's yeah they do that. Oh really therapist contain their sessions while he was doing until use them for notes later he was doing it. They made it tissues very in. So it's one thing to have the recording device out and be like all right. We're starting another to be like I'm GonNa hit this button. Had No idea they were being recorded in. So Dr who actually has a Mitch mistress on the side. I'm ready does yeah. Her name is Jude Allen Smith and They're having this affair. It's going on for a little bit. And then finally it ends. And so she knows about the tapes. Okay and he's a woman scorned yes and so she goes to the police and she's like hey it's not the mafia it's the brothers and so so there's some pillow talk going on uh-huh and she understand okay and so good on her right. Yeah and so you hear them talking like there's so told me recordings and you can tell that it was premeditated like nick say crazy stuff in there is any of this admissible It was it was it was like It was over a few days. They like listen to it. 'cause California is California one party consent law. I don't know so there. Every state has its own rule about being recorded and some states. Both people both parties have to know they're being recorded some states. Only one party has to know they're being recorded and then in and I think other states neither person neither party can no look at the FBI has wire tapping you know what I mean like. There's different rules interesting anything. But then later on in court like she actually switches size and she becomes a witness for the defense and then she says how. Dr Oziel Ezekiel actually beat and raped her. And that how he is this crazy like person he like pressures clients and having sex with him and he had like one client coming clean his house for him as payment for sessions. Yeah he is not a good dude. Everybody crazy yeah. Everyone Jackie you me Kim. The toaster in so On December eight th of Nineteen Ninety two. The brothers are taken into custody. And so now we're jumping into the trial and it becomes a national sensation. it's like a court Court TV Broadcast and this is the first of its kind. This is before four O.. J. Into the media's going crazy like SNL does a skit on the brother we're everywhere everywhere. They were everywhere and it just becomes kind of like a game show and so they are actually tried together. But they had to separate juries Yeah Yeah Go. That's great. No I'm just fascinating so Eric's defense attorney Leslie Abramson she alleges that the brothers were physically and sexually really abused by their father. So she's like without a doubt the did kill their parents. That's not why we're here today. He's arguing to the sympathies of yes. Jury Yeah we're unique why Later in the Barbara Walters interview. Eric says that just before the shootings have his father told him to go up to his room and that they were going to have sex. And that's when Eric was like like no no more and that's when they grabbed the guns A family member Actually goes on the standing confirmed that when Eric was eight years old He told her about the abuse so in like during the Defense like Leslie kept calling them the boys voice and so everyone's like the boys the boys the boys and like Eric's eighteen at this point in lyles twenty one but it's kind of like a psychological play to the one. They were like sweater vest. Yeah Yeah Yeah and glasses to the point where the prosecutor. Because she's in the documentary too. She's like I sorta calling them the boys they got him ahead. Yeah in well play. Okay Yeah did you are snap on stabbing if you haven't listened to cereal. You gotTA listen to serial. It's such a great podcast So the prosecutors on for their side are saying that the killings were premeditated because they had bought the guns beforehand That they said that the excessive force issues against their mother didn't make sense and later They would say that they were trying to put her out of her misery. But I was thinking so in my mind I do believe that they were sexually abused as you're talking can't it be all of it. Yes definitely and like when you watch their testimony like recounting counting. What happened to them? They went through trauma. They they say. Details sat like only a victim would like remember and like at one point. Lyle admits to abusing Eric In you see lie on on the stand telling historian the camera goes over to Eric and you just see him he is yeah unconcealed lake. Yeah I do think that they were abused and maybe the excessive force against their mother was because she knew she knew about it and didn't do anything I don't know but I feel like it's everything I think there's a little truth in everything about this case. Does it justify them killing their parents. Know 'cause they they had an opportunity. There was no like life threatening action. I believe about that night. That was going to happen against them. And so the two juries become deadlocked and both both yes. Yes that's crazy to think the you're on a jury knowing that another jury is also talking about it right. Yeah what a weird. I wonder how common that is strange. so the Los Angeles district attorney immediately announced that the brothers were going to be retried after the deadlocked juries boop now you either refile the charges charges are you let it go So the second trial begins In this one is Less publicized the judge does not allow that hurt the case and then he also didn't allow the sexual abuse allegations to be brought up at all. Where do you sit on that? I know speaks to motive. Yeah it speaks to motive so I think it has to be part in you. It's not just them saying I get you're trying to keep the emotionality out which doesn't even matter if it's just them saying it but they also have a family emily member contesting to it. Yeah I think it should be allowed. It's their truth or what they're saying. Their motive is that's their motive for killing killing their parents so the brothers went. They actually lost all their money during the first trial and and so for the second trial they had to be represented is ended by the state and the jury Rejected the defence a theory that the brothers killed their parents out of fear but rather believed that the murders were committed with the intent kind of gaining control of their parents wealth because they didn't see the sexual abuse. Yeah part of it. I also like that could be both definitely it. Why not yeah definitely Wolf Wolfe In the on July Second Nineteen ninety-six. Lyle and Eric are sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole On September tenth of Nineteen ninety-six. The brothers are separated and they are sent to different prisons in both are classified in a maximum security inmates and were segregated from other prisoners. Just because so famous. Yeah I think so and so now I'm going to jump into life in prison carry So they're like a sensation So so they circuiting thousands of letters a week from fans we should have a whole episode. Prison okay fascinating take And Sad I I would like to sit down with like a psychologist or somebody to like what you started that documentary that I can't find someone confined this documentary. What so I started to watch one and it was all about prison? Wives like women that right to men on death row and start these relationships and Mary them And sometimes have conjugal visits sometimes. Don't and that more often than not. They're incredibly intelligent But they had some sort of trauma in their past. I and there's control over the relationship so it's that you know where they are at all times and it's that you know that you're safe because you know they're imprisoned can't get to you. It's an even if you're visiting them. You're in a secure play. Yeah so there's a lot of control like it's it was so interesting but it was. It was such a depression like I couldn't finish that documentary like I was who I need to take a break from this and I see now I can't find it. I don't know why we're saying youtube or I don't know where it was says. I've looked if you can find it Messages on Instagram. The whole documentary was about that relationships. Yeah crazy So they get all these letters in in January of Nineteen eighty-seven Lyle. Mary's a longtime pen Pal Anna Eric Erickson and she's this former model The marriage lasts us about less than a year and she reportedly caught lyle cheating on her because he was writing to other women so in November of two thousand three lyle than thirty five. Mary's Rebecca SNEED and she's thirty three years old. She's a magazine Editor She's from Sacramento and they have the ceremony in the maximum security visiting area At Mule Creek State Prison. Where's that in California? He aware of her to that Mule Creek state. Prison Mulas my tied to my cocktail. Holy Hell Nice Job binks mule. I'm annoyed but I guess such a good tie right. ooh My God does she. She do it one day. I might prisoners. I feel like I've driven past it and in Lyon. Rebecca have reportedly known each other Prior.

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"dr oziel" Discussed on Killer Cocktails

Killer Cocktails

11:24 min | 2 years ago

"dr oziel" Discussed on Killer Cocktails

"And so they kinda have him up for it and in no previous record in so Eric Eric actually starts doing community service because event in but both brothers have to go see a psychologist just to see like they have to go to counseling. Yeah in the meantime the Fathers Jose starts going around to all the families that got hit. And he's like here's money. Whatever you want I'll write a check for you? Don't let this hit the media. Yeah and he was actually more upset with the brothers because they got caught then that they did it and he's like you're definitely not leaders. The shows you're not leaders. This is rife for a television miniseries. Yeah definitely so kind of paint a picture of lyle more Both brothers are are really good looking In lisle starts dating. Like Victoria's Victoria's secret models and he's doing this playboy lifestyle on the side in his parents do not agree with it so they cut him off with their credit cards. And they're like I would think that they would agree with it because of the showing of it but maybe not no because that they don't want him to be showing they want him to be successful. They want to go to Princeton. They want him to have like a girl. Good girl In the Eric is like modeling on the side. Like very lightweight like Very amateur and again Jose. It's just like catalog work. Who's not happy and these sorts accusing Eric? Being gay which in mind was not okay And then Kitty finds out that Jose has been having an eight year affair and with the woman back in New York and so kiddies world is kind of crumbling at this point. The boys are kind of going out of control What she doesn't know is that Jose also has another woman on the side in La Anymore it also having sex with sex workers on the side insatiable in so because she's so mad about what's like she can't have control over the boys she decides? I'm GONNA take the boys out of the will. And so she pulls out the will and her computer one day. Okay and her friend. Why is she doing that? The boys are getting out of control. Lyle got kicked out of Princeton. God they just quietly take them out of the will to her. That's a consequence consequence And she's saying like you're being crazy we're taking the wheel. She not sing it to their face so she's at her computer. She's changing the will and her friend is over over and she's like what are you doing. She's like I'm taking the boys out though the will they can't handle this like money and she's like lyles down the hall like I can see lyle he can hear us and she's like that's fine. He can hear he needs to know that he's not getting any of this money so she's not like saying it to them but she doesn't care that they hear over here. AH IN MY MIND to quietly do it does nothing. Yeah so kitties psychiatrist recommends that the boy see Dr Oziel. Paul and shortly after Eric Search treatment with a doctor Oziel he gives permission for him to discuss the contents of his sessions with his parents and so on July nineteenth in one thousand nine hundred nine. Kitty goes through a therapist and tells him that she fears that. Her sons are narcissistic in exhibit signs. That they are sociopaths. Issue Concerned about her husband. All that doesn't come up because he seems a little bit narcissist narcissistic as well. Yeah one hundred percent okay. But she is concerned about her kids because this other psychiatrists telling her about their session. Yeah so kitty begins to lock the door to her bedroom at night. Oh she scared She keeps was to twenty two rifles in her closet and she does not allow lyle or Eric to have keys to the house in when the brothers go out at night They they have to wake her up so she could come unlocked the door and let them in because they lived there but they're not alleged keys. Yeah K. in when a could he takes too many volumes and she's rushed to the hospital in this mess staff at the hospital she might have been trying to commit. Suicide does not confirmed and On Tuesday August Fifteenth Kitty and lyle get into this heated argument in KITTY STARTS HITTING LYLE in. She grabs his hair and pulls Sopha to pay. What in Eric's there in Eric's like what like twenty which one you can use your you know? But but like Eric is lyles brother. He had no idea that his brother were to pay. He had no idea he was starting to lose his hair so he was losing his hair and Jose saw and he's like this is not acceptable. Get Out of here have to wear to pay in so we made Ohio okay No one can be surprised by what happens. uh-huh in so that night the brothers get to talking and they're like it's just so crazy. How many secrets are within our family? Yeah this is is obviously from the boys Yeah tell as you're telling me all this I'm like I'm curious where some of the information comes from because some of you like decadent to come from within the family So it had to have come from the boys and obviously like if they're trying like spinning their side or is there truth and like a lot of this comes from that documentary tree. I Talked about in the beginning. So you some of this comes from kitties friends ultimate this comes from the boys and So the boy start talking in Erica midst till I'll that their father has been sexually abusing him. Eric Mitchell younger brother adminster older and then lyle explains that he has also been sexually abused by their father. Does this come. Maybe we'll get there when we talk about the trial. Does this come up with like. Is that over questions. Do People's people definitely question it. People go are you just trying to get away with murder Did that yeah. And we'll talk about later in so according to the brothers Jose finds out that Eric has told Late every cats out of the bag. Yeah and Jose is just like I know you're gonNa tell the people I can't have that happen inside the be. The brothers at this point can scare that Jose is gonNA stop and nothing to make sure they don't tell anybody in so A couple of days. Later on Saturday Day August nineteenth nineteen eighty-nine entire family goes out on this chartered boat in the marina and they go fishing and according to the crew Jose is in the back of the boat and fishing kitties down below because she seasick and the boys are at the bow so everyone's being separated. They said it was really weird. No one was really talking They're not a loving family. Yeah exactly Into the next day on Sunday August twentieth nineteen eighty nine. The brothers decide to kill their parents. Wow Wow so jose and Kitty are got a theory. Okay they all took seasickness pills and seasickness pills made them temporarily insane. uh-huh just the boys just the voice. Okay great we'll we'll come back to that theory brought up. Thank you Jackie and blatantly made up but I feel it has merit you should be detected so Jose and Kitty are in their den at their house and they're watching the spy who loved me in their minds lion. Eric have left for the night and so at around ten PM Lion Eric Take Two twelve gauge shotguns. In shoop also their parents these are her mom's keeps in the closet. No different Would later report hearing firecrackers. But they didn't think much of it because they're in beverly hills that and lyle says during Oh so they have this later on they obviously guilty Later on they're doing interview with Barbara Walters and While says during the interview that So they had their appearance and then they're like twelve shots in the middle of the night and no one calls. The police were waiting at the house and no one shows up in the way he said it. It's kind of like he's putting the blame name on the cops the surrounding people for not calling the cops. Yeah and that's why they had a call in Li- like we're waiting for someone to like turn Assim but no one did so we had to do it. Wow And so at eleven forty seven. Lyle calls Nine one one in you can hear the nine one one call and it's it's awful. Is he pretending like he discovered his parents saying that he did it. Like what's the what's the bent doc pretending that they came home to find that their parents had been shot talk And they're like overly screaming overly yelling hysterics all over the place. Is there like running through the house. You can hear both of them Did you listen to. It is in the interview in the documentary. Yeah so so the police arrive and they see that Jose has been shot in the back of the head Four Times in that. Kitty attempted to run away during the the Incident as she was shot in the leg causing it to break and then she was shot multiple times until they ran out of ammunition and so they had to their car reload and come back and they shot her in the head. We feel like that came up at trial And then they also shot both of them in the kneecaps to make it look like a mob hit that so it's just excessive force They picked up all the shells afterwards. And Yeah it's just you no you can't you can't recognize them and there was more force to Kitty. That's what's so surprising to me I wouldn't think that that's how one just you know everybody in their MOMS. But I don't know and we'll talk about. I have a theory and we read it later. Yeah so because both of the brothers at this point are not suspects. The cops don't bring them in okay. They're like they're like yeah. They're like why are we going to take them in for questioning when their parents. They're obviously distraught the they don't hands for ballistics then look in their car. which if they had looked at the guns to do it anyway Yeah the civil what you think happened. Also bad so in so the brothers told them you know. I think this was pet. I think it was the mafia like. Yeah and so the police Amelie start following that lead In so in the meantime Lyle and Eric now have money. Oh Yeah In they buy obviously had an adjusted the will and put it through lawyers. Well we'll get to that. Oh they actually. I'm had somebody come by on August. Thirty first to erase the files and KITTIES computer In so they start buying new suits. It's the start they bought new rolex. Watches Yeah one buys a Porsche. Another one buys a cafe So one of them by a buffalo flow wings restaurant in Princeton. He needs it. Mr Buffalo's I think that was lyle. I'm Eric Hires a fulltime tennis coach. Which is Sixty K.? A.

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