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Four leaks in three weeks - what's going wrong?

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02:40 min | Last month

Four leaks in three weeks - what's going wrong?

"I'm health reported teigen thailand physician and journalists dr norman swan. It is wednesday the twenty third of december a couple of days from christmas and at least in the greatest sydney area. A lot of people are looking at the christmas that they were planning. Obviously we're watching the case numbers in the northern beaches of sydney really closely. But let's just zoom that for a second and look at what's been happening in the last three or four weeks in that area because it's been more than one leak out of quarantaine. There's been four leaks in three weeks as far as we can see but before we get onto that what we want to say. Corrina cast is. Take our hats off to another wearing hats right at this moment but really dolph our caps to the contact tracers in new south wales. I mean they're just unbelievable. They've got this dying to eight cases yes there are still fairly significant issues. Were pressed upon. Because it's christmas coming up but it's it's an astounding. Effort really is incredibly impressive. As we come with christmas we should just anybody who lives in new south. Wales should really just be thanking the contact tracers for such a fabulous job. They're doing and they're really onto this and the miracles that diamond diamond class contact tracing. I'm sure that that's right. It is really really impressive. Diet hug contact tracers but definitely give them the covid safety stints round of applause if he can absolutely so. Yeah something is going wrong. There's no question about that. There are no as you say four cases so what are. There's the man who drove the bus at the airport with an overseas aircrew from the airport. There's now a nurse who caught it again zoll all going on report a transporting people who were on well third case. This is not necessarily chronological order. Who was not law. Who was right about the time of the van driver to cleaner hotel again. With aircrew in the hotel she was the first and then there was the. There's the the northern beaches outbreak which almost certainly is from somebody who came in from overseas yet to be determined aircrew. Somebody who left hotel. Quarantine booster positive. Who knows what that was. But we don't know that yet so four things going wrong and the genomics. There is showing that they are different points of entry. Yes except as we record current cast. We don't know what the genomics were or was sure with a singular plural on the on the nurse so we don't know what the source of battle laws be presumed that it was different from the others so yes there are different viruses causing this probably from different places from the bus driver and the nurse looks as though the The transportation is high

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

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05:13 min | Last month

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"Reported teigen. Tayla journalists dr norman swan. It's friday the fourth of december and norman. Just as we felt like we were getting on top of the south australian outbreak and everything was coming towards what felt like it could have been an even keel in australia. We've heard that there's been another case of hotel. Quarantine being transmitted to someone who isn't in hotel quarantine this time a domestic worker at a hotel in sydney. How do we deal with these scholley. That just an inevitable part of leaving during a pandemic so how do we deal with them when they happen. So far starts new the caveat that the time of recording this corona cast. We've only got partial information. More information will know marriage but this is going to happen from time to time. Not just in new south wales but elsewhere initially. It sounded disorders persons working across two facilities. It may just actually look located facility. You'll remember in victoria. People are strictly working in one. They are going to genomics just to work out. Where exactly this person got up from. Is it hotel quarantine order. They get it from the community again by the time you just as we the answer to that question nonetheless when you test workers in quota quarantine regularly you will pick up positive cases and you might pick up positive cases that are relatively mildly symptomatic or symtomatic. The otherwise card. So it's a good thing that we are detecting them and hopefully we're getting onto very quickly and they are testing the context of this person so we just need to see what happens here. But it's going to a car and we're bringing people overseas with coronavirus. This is gonna is gonna occur in all jurisdictions and nobody can look done new south wales or victoria or anywhere else. This is now going to be part of covid life moving forward and presumably as long as we are surveilling. That really closely. There's no need to go into full lockdown mired if you're picking up those cases very close to the source that's right and you wills has had outbreaks and quite significant outbreaks managed to bring them back down to zero. So this is going to be the same thing i can't. I can't imagine that this is going to be a problem of the dimensions. Of say. The purview cluster in south australia. But who knows. We'll see that. Knock allowing the premier. Wis necessarily did say that he wouldn't hesitate to close the borders again. Norman you give up on your dream of seeing caucus no. I'm still hoping that Run a me hotel. Quarantine new south wales or not. Well the other big coronavirus news. It's that in the last thirty six hours or so is that the uk is going to roll out the final vaccine really exciting to have real life people getting real vaccine at the end of this really really long pandemic approval so it's not a proper approval obviously just on a dive to make sure there's no major safety issues and the risk versus equation given how many cases get the uk favors just using this vaccine. They reckon the risk is low but they they will not have really looked at the data from the trials in any great detail. This point so it looks as if it's safe will it prevent infection. We don't know that yet it. May it certainly will prevent covid nineteen disease which is great given..

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

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05:08 min | Last month

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"I'm health reported teigen. Tayla journalists dr norman swan. It's friday the fourth of december and norman. Just as we felt like we were getting on top of the south australian outbreak and everything was coming towards what felt like it could have been an even keel in australia. We've heard that there's been another case of hotel. Quarantine being transmitted to someone who isn't in hotel quarantine this time a domestic worker at a hotel in sydney. How do we deal with these scholley. That just an inevitable part of leaving during a pandemic so how do we deal with them when they happen. So far starts new the caveat that the time of recording this corona cast. We've only got partial information. More information will know marriage but this is going to happen from time to time. Not just in new south wales but elsewhere initially. It sounded disorders persons working across two facilities. It may just actually look located facility. You'll remember in victoria. People are strictly working in one. They are going to genomics just to work out. Where exactly this person got up from. Is it hotel quarantine order. They get it from the community again by the time you just as we the answer to that question nonetheless when you test workers in quota quarantine regularly you will pick up positive cases and you might pick up positive cases that are relatively mildly symptomatic or symtomatic. The otherwise card. So it's a good thing that we are detecting them and hopefully we're getting onto very quickly and they are testing the context of this person so we just need to see what happens here. But it's going to a car and we're bringing people overseas with coronavirus. This is gonna is gonna occur in all jurisdictions and nobody can look done new south wales or victoria or anywhere else. This is now going to be part of covid life moving forward and presumably as long as we are surveilling. That really closely. There's no need to go into full lockdown mired if you're picking up those cases very close to the source that's right and you wills has had outbreaks and quite significant outbreaks managed to bring them back down to zero. So this is going to be the same thing i can't. I can't imagine that this is going to be a problem of the dimensions. Of say. The purview cluster in south australia. But who knows. We'll see that. Knock allowing the premier. Wis necessarily did say that he wouldn't hesitate to close the borders again. Norman you give up on your dream of seeing caucus no. I'm still hoping that <hes>. Run a me hotel. Quarantine new south wales or not. Well the other big coronavirus news. It's that in the last thirty six hours or so is that the uk is going to roll out the final vaccine really exciting to have real life people getting real vaccine at the end of this really really long pandemic approval so it's not a proper approval obviously just on a dive to make sure there's no major safety issues and the risk versus equation given how many cases get the uk favors just using this vaccine. They reckon the risk is low but they they will not have really looked at the data from the trials in any great detail. This point so it looks as if it's safe will it prevent infection. We don't know that yet it. May it certainly will prevent covid nineteen disease which is great given. You've had so many deaths in the uk and for us. It means that we shouldn't be rushing at all. We're not in an emergency situation. We'd almost no virus in australia apart from hotel quarantine and we can wait and we can let the british to be blunt. The british and the americans make mistakes learn how to distribute it double check that it's safe when they've given it to millions of people over the next few weeks and we will will put us much better shape from when we implement so the approval for the visor vaccine. Maybe some of the others will be over the next six weeks maybe longer. And then it's that we will do it properly. We actually talked about that in a bit more detail in yesterday's episode of corona cost. So if you're interested go back and check that one out. The other thing. Norman that i could say a very popular new story yesterday about someone who'd had sips associated with covid nineteen and he seemed to have a really dramatic recovery because of a massive dose vitamin say. What do we make of this not march. We'd be my first response was fantastic for the patient. It's a one off. There's no randomize ation here. People will argue that. You don't need a randomized trial with a parachute in other words. Prove parachute works. You wouldn't do a randomized trial parachute works. You try it out. So here's somebody that they thought was gonna die. Didn't die from mega doses of vitamin c. They'll think that they know what. The mechanism is presumably. They'll say that it's because it says potent antioxidant and it's doing something for the free radicals that may not be the case. Very high doses of vitamin c are actually pro. Oxidant and i suspect that if this works they haven't got a clue why but it might be a signal that you would actually test this out in people over on a larger scale to see what's going on so

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Here we go again? More problems with hotel quarantine

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05:08 min | Last month

Here we go again? More problems with hotel quarantine

"I'm health reported teigen. Tayla journalists dr norman swan. It's friday the fourth of december and norman. Just as we felt like we were getting on top of the south australian outbreak and everything was coming towards what felt like it could have been an even keel in australia. We've heard that there's been another case of hotel. Quarantine being transmitted to someone who isn't in hotel quarantine this time a domestic worker at a hotel in sydney. How do we deal with these scholley. That just an inevitable part of leaving during a pandemic so how do we deal with them when they happen. So far starts new the caveat that the time of recording this corona cast. We've only got partial information. More information will know marriage but this is going to happen from time to time. Not just in new south wales but elsewhere initially. It sounded disorders persons working across two facilities. It may just actually look located facility. You'll remember in victoria. People are strictly working in one. They are going to genomics just to work out. Where exactly this person got up from. Is it hotel quarantine order. They get it from the community again by the time you just as we the answer to that question nonetheless when you test workers in quota quarantine regularly you will pick up positive cases and you might pick up positive cases that are relatively mildly symptomatic or symtomatic. The otherwise card. So it's a good thing that we are detecting them and hopefully we're getting onto very quickly and they are testing the context of this person so we just need to see what happens here. But it's going to a car and we're bringing people overseas with coronavirus. This is gonna is gonna occur in all jurisdictions and nobody can look done new south wales or victoria or anywhere else. This is now going to be part of covid life moving forward and presumably as long as we are surveilling. That really closely. There's no need to go into full lockdown mired if you're picking up those cases very close to the source that's right and you wills has had outbreaks and quite significant outbreaks managed to bring them back down to zero. So this is going to be the same thing i can't. I can't imagine that this is going to be a problem of the dimensions. Of say. The purview cluster in south australia. But who knows. We'll see that. Knock allowing the premier. Wis necessarily did say that he wouldn't hesitate to close the borders again. Norman you give up on your dream of seeing caucus no. I'm still hoping that Run a me hotel. Quarantine new south wales or not. Well the other big coronavirus news. It's that in the last thirty six hours or so is that the uk is going to roll out the final vaccine really exciting to have real life people getting real vaccine at the end of this really really long pandemic approval so it's not a proper approval obviously just on a dive to make sure there's no major safety issues and the risk versus equation given how many cases get the uk favors just using this vaccine. They reckon the risk is low but they they will not have really looked at the data from the trials in any great detail. This point so it looks as if it's safe will it prevent infection. We don't know that yet it. May it certainly will prevent covid nineteen disease which is great given. You've had so many deaths in the uk and for us. It means that we shouldn't be rushing at all. We're not in an emergency situation. We'd almost no virus in australia apart from hotel quarantine and we can wait and we can let the british to be blunt. The british and the americans make mistakes learn how to distribute it double check that it's safe when they've given it to millions of people over the next few weeks and we will will put us much better shape from when we implement so the approval for the visor vaccine. Maybe some of the others will be over the next six weeks maybe longer. And then it's that we will do it properly. We actually talked about that in a bit more detail in yesterday's episode of corona cost. So if you're interested go back and check that one out. The other thing. Norman that i could say a very popular new story yesterday about someone who'd had sips associated with covid nineteen and he seemed to have a really dramatic recovery because of a massive dose vitamin say. What do we make of this not march. We'd be my first response was fantastic for the patient. It's a one off. There's no randomize ation here. People will argue that. You don't need a randomized trial with a parachute in other words. Prove parachute works. You wouldn't do a randomized trial parachute works. You try it out. So here's somebody that they thought was gonna die. Didn't die from mega doses of vitamin c. They'll think that they know what. The mechanism is presumably. They'll say that it's because it says potent antioxidant and it's doing something for the free radicals that may not be the case. Very high doses of vitamin c are actually pro. Oxidant and i suspect that if this works they haven't got a clue why but it might be a signal that you would actually test this out in people over on a larger scale to see what's going on so

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

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05:09 min | 2 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"Hello this is corona cost a daily podcast all about the coronavirus. I'm health reported. Teigen tyler an emphasis journalists dr norman swan. It's wednesday the eleventh of november. And we've had some really exciting coronavirus news in the last couple of days. Norman fiso the drug company has announced that their vaccine that producing maybe ninety percent effective in stopping the virus. Do we all just pack up corona costing go home now to. We don't need it anymore. No because has doesn't operate on press releases scientific papers that have been pure reviewed where we know what's going on you'd have to say pfizer's a bit out on. Its own here at least so far. Anyway they've announced this <hes>. Interim analysis but it's not been peer reviewed and it's quite hard to work are exactly what's going on both fighters the one who hasn't actually joined the same platform of some of the other vaccine manufacturers. Who are out in trial. And they've got their data safety monitoring board which looked the analysis of this raw. The common one is what the monitoring board is being shared by. Some of the vaccine manufacturers. So it's not entirely transparent. There's also see you have to say also commercial element in this that they want to get a jump on it and the water here is that they're going to push for emergency use authorization before their presumably earlier than the other vaccines but the question is. Is it too early to know absolutely for sure that they're safe so they sort of questions to ask here are well. What does it mean. They've said nine more than ninety percent. Effective well you gotta read between the lines. Because it's not entirely clear from their release but it's been something like ninety four covid nineteen disease cases so this is not infections. Forty thousand people yep in the boats so this is these vaccines are not designed to pretend to fiction as we said many many times on corner cast they're designed to prevent covid nineteen disease which is fair enough because if you've protect against nineteen disease then all the sars cov to becomes is a bad cold. Let's assume that we talking about which is that has been ninety four cases thereabouts. I think that's what the announced and that they're more than ninety percent effective. It's should probably mean that something like eight or so of the cases of covid nineteen occurred in the placebo group and the remainder are six or seven or whatever it is six occurred in the vaccine group. But we didn't have those numbers. Stay away from visa. We don't have those numbers but you can assume then that from from that crudely of that ninety four percent ninety percent or more occurred in the placebo group and ten percent or fewer occurred in the vaccine group. That's what that means. And therefore is a significant gap between the two groups which is protection against covid nineteen disease. That's what i assume an endless things. No major safety issues. The ninety percent number <hes>. A lot higher than what we've been talking about on corona causton in all of the full out around this announcement. I heard a lot of experts. Say that's amazing. That's a really big number much higher than we expected. So that's good news right. What's what's much higher than the regulators were willing to approve. Everybody was hoping it'd be much higher than fifty percent because fifty percents pretty disappointing and so this is really great news. If it's all right and you get superior review study of the data and goes on long enough to have a proper analysis and it's really good news for the other mini. Vaccines are just just to be clear. What this vaccine is and just a little bit of a revision on the vaccines the so the oxford vaccine and this vaccine and the moderna vaccine three scenes around the are the lead. They do the same thing in the end. Which is they put a genetic message into the cell to tell the cell to produce part of the spike protein of the corona virus and that goes into the bloodstream and the immune response the immune system reacts to that creating immunity. How the vaccine does it is uses a chimpanzee virus to take the genetic message into the sale and what bio and take the pfizer vaccine does and the moderna vaccine is. Is that parcells up amorini. Which is a parcel of genetic messaging and it goes straight into the salad self and tells the cell to produce the part of the spike protein. So this is a name are a vaccine and it's really good news because there's another mirani vaccine on the blocks which is the moderna vaccine which isn't too far behind the problem with these vaccines is that there are very low. Temperatures to transport around minus eighty of madeira. People say there's may not require that depth of temperature this makes it a very impractical vaccine for poor and middle income countries and also does make it a bit impractical even for countries like australia. Where you're going to have to coaching at minus eighty on the coaching standard frigid temperatures and the university of queensland vaccine for example will only require an a standard vaccine fridge province minus eighty. So they are vulnerable it. They do first mover advantage so that they can get out there because they know they're vulnerable to other vaccines. That might come along. Which don't require that cold chain infrastructure.

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What we still don't know about the vaccine announcement (but it's ok to be excited!)

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05:09 min | 2 months ago

What we still don't know about the vaccine announcement (but it's ok to be excited!)

"Hello this is corona cost a daily podcast all about the coronavirus. I'm health reported. Teigen tyler an emphasis journalists dr norman swan. It's wednesday the eleventh of november. And we've had some really exciting coronavirus news in the last couple of days. Norman fiso the drug company has announced that their vaccine that producing maybe ninety percent effective in stopping the virus. Do we all just pack up corona costing go home now to. We don't need it anymore. No because has doesn't operate on press releases scientific papers that have been pure reviewed where we know what's going on you'd have to say pfizer's a bit out on. Its own here at least so far. Anyway they've announced this Interim analysis but it's not been peer reviewed and it's quite hard to work are exactly what's going on both fighters the one who hasn't actually joined the same platform of some of the other vaccine manufacturers. Who are out in trial. And they've got their data safety monitoring board which looked the analysis of this raw. The common one is what the monitoring board is being shared by. Some of the vaccine manufacturers. So it's not entirely transparent. There's also see you have to say also commercial element in this that they want to get a jump on it and the water here is that they're going to push for emergency use authorization before their presumably earlier than the other vaccines but the question is. Is it too early to know absolutely for sure that they're safe so they sort of questions to ask here are well. What does it mean. They've said nine more than ninety percent. Effective well you gotta read between the lines. Because it's not entirely clear from their release but it's been something like ninety four covid nineteen disease cases so this is not infections. Forty thousand people yep in the boats so this is these vaccines are not designed to pretend to fiction as we said many many times on corner cast they're designed to prevent covid nineteen disease which is fair enough because if you've protect against nineteen disease then all the sars cov to becomes is a bad cold. Let's assume that we talking about which is that has been ninety four cases thereabouts. I think that's what the announced and that they're more than ninety percent effective. It's should probably mean that something like eight or so of the cases of covid nineteen occurred in the placebo group and the remainder are six or seven or whatever it is six occurred in the vaccine group. But we didn't have those numbers. Stay away from visa. We don't have those numbers but you can assume then that from from that crudely of that ninety four percent ninety percent or more occurred in the placebo group and ten percent or fewer occurred in the vaccine group. That's what that means. And therefore is a significant gap between the two groups which is protection against covid nineteen disease. That's what i assume an endless things. No major safety issues. The ninety percent number A lot higher than what we've been talking about on corona causton in all of the full out around this announcement. I heard a lot of experts. Say that's amazing. That's a really big number much higher than we expected. So that's good news right. What's what's much higher than the regulators were willing to approve. Everybody was hoping it'd be much higher than fifty percent because fifty percents pretty disappointing and so this is really great news. If it's all right and you get superior review study of the data and goes on long enough to have a proper analysis and it's really good news for the other mini. Vaccines are just just to be clear. What this vaccine is and just a little bit of a revision on the vaccines the so the oxford vaccine and this vaccine and the moderna vaccine three scenes around the are the lead. They do the same thing in the end. Which is they put a genetic message into the cell to tell the cell to produce part of the spike protein of the corona virus and that goes into the bloodstream and the immune response the immune system reacts to that creating immunity. How the vaccine does it is uses a chimpanzee virus to take the genetic message into the sale and what bio and take the pfizer vaccine does and the moderna vaccine is. Is that parcells up amorini. Which is a parcel of genetic messaging and it goes straight into the salad self and tells the cell to produce the part of the spike protein. So this is a name are a vaccine and it's really good news because there's another mirani vaccine on the blocks which is the moderna vaccine which isn't too far behind the problem with these vaccines is that there are very low. Temperatures to transport around minus eighty of madeira. People say there's may not require that depth of temperature this makes it a very impractical vaccine for poor and middle income countries and also does make it a bit impractical even for countries like australia. Where you're going to have to coaching at minus eighty on the coaching standard frigid temperatures and the university of queensland vaccine for example will only require an a standard vaccine fridge province minus eighty. So they are vulnerable it. They do first mover advantage so that they can get out there because they know they're vulnerable to other vaccines. That might come along. Which don't require that cold chain infrastructure.

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

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04:56 min | 2 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"The coronavirus. I'm health reported. Teigen tyler an emphasis journalists dr norman swan. It's wednesday the eleventh of november. And we've had some really exciting coronavirus news in the last couple of days. Norman fiso the drug company has announced that their vaccine that producing maybe ninety percent effective in stopping the virus. Do we all just pack up corona costing go home now to. We don't need it anymore. No because has doesn't operate on press releases scientific papers that have been pure reviewed where we know what's going on you'd have to say pfizer's a bit out on. Its own here at least so far. Anyway they've announced this Interim analysis but it's not been peer reviewed and it's quite hard to work are exactly what's going on both fighters the one who hasn't actually joined the same platform of some of the other vaccine manufacturers. Who are out in trial. And they've got their data safety monitoring board which looked the analysis of this raw. The common one is what the monitoring board is being shared by. Some of the vaccine manufacturers. So it's not entirely transparent. There's also see you have to say also commercial element in this that they want to get a jump on it and the water here is that they're going to push for emergency use authorization before their presumably earlier than the other vaccines but the question is. Is it too early to know absolutely for sure that they're safe so they sort of questions to ask here are well. What does it mean. They've said nine more than ninety percent. Effective well you gotta read between the lines. Because it's not entirely clear from their release but it's been something like ninety four covid nineteen disease cases so this is not infections. Forty thousand people yep in the boats so this is these vaccines are not designed to pretend to fiction as we said many many times on corner cast they're designed to prevent covid nineteen disease which is fair enough because if you've protect against nineteen disease then all the sars cov to becomes is a bad cold. Let's assume that we talking about which is that has been ninety four cases thereabouts. I think that's what the announced and that they're more than ninety percent effective. It's should probably mean that something like eight or so of the cases of covid nineteen occurred in the placebo group and the remainder are six or seven or whatever it is six occurred in the vaccine group. But we didn't have those numbers. Stay away from visa. We don't have those numbers but you can assume then that from from that crudely of that ninety four percent ninety percent or more occurred in the placebo group and ten percent or fewer occurred in the vaccine group. That's what that means. And therefore is a significant gap between the two groups which is protection against covid nineteen disease. That's what i assume an endless things. No major safety issues..

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Victoria takes a deep breath and opens up!

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04:58 min | 3 months ago

Victoria takes a deep breath and opens up!

"I'm health reported Teigen Tyler Physician and Journalists Dr Norman Swan on this really important for all pride. Victorians. Chief see the twenty seventh of October. Yes. Finally yesterday in Victoria. The Prima Donna Andrews announced the revised roadmap towards bacteria covid normal and it was a real relief for Victorians and the rest of the nation Norman what sort of the highlights of what Dan Andrews said yesterday because it's the comprehensiveness of the opening up, there is no daily dallying now retail hospitality getting back to work. Yes. There are restrictions on indoor numbers and outdoor numbers. But if you live in New South Wales, you're used to that and that will take a while to loosen up but everything just gets going and later on today the numbers in households will become clearer because that is a high risk environment. But if recycle is anything to go by, you won't really notice it too much and it will loosen up with time zones. There aren't any significant outbreaks. Milestone in starting. To have zero cases and the last time, the state had zero cases when on the ninth of June one hundred and forty days ago. So obviously, there's still probably GONNA be filtering through in the next few days but really, really hot. The. Really hot work that they've been doing paying off you know Sommese. Still be virus in Victoria and you will see the odd cluster popping up as indeed they do new South Wales, but eventually, it will get down to almost zero spread. So it's it's fantastic news. But the premiums, right it's constant vigilance is what's required covered normal does not be normal covered normal means social distancing means not getting together to large numbers too. Early it needs ring really careful at home in means continuing to wear masks outside so. Lucky. That they've got mandated masks. New South doesn't yet. You know hair salons can do services when the clients wearing face covering corona cast listeners will remember that we covered the story in a few weeks ago a few months ago I can't remember now but the flat tackle that's right. The in united. States swear to positive here salon workers did not pass the virus onto their clients by wearing masks insisting that their clients wear masks. So it's really important. So these things will protect US moving forward. One of the things that really stood out to me went any Landrus is talking about what the new normal looks like is how much the rest of the country can learn from this because in places that aren't. Victoria and you South Wales. It's been quite a long time since it's been a lot of virus circulating in the community that we know about at least and I know from my own experience living in Queensland that I think there's a lot of complacency that's crept in and it's probably a good time to just refocusing guy this isn't normal life. We still got a kate how God's up try and it could come in to come in on a ship from overseas. You've already seen problems in western. Australia nobody is particularly safe the risk of spread by open borders and I was extremely low, but it does mean we've all got to be careful moving forward. At some point, international borders are going to have to open up we're going to have to learn what covered normal actually means now new South Wales are ready to move in. You saw the football matches you. It doesn't feel to abnormals in in in in New South Wales, and that's the real feeling in Victoria but I think those two states are better prepared for this. Than the other states and we've got to open up the borders and people just will have to be more careful definitely in Australia where in a much better position than other parts of the world where covered normally is no in knee normal live, and in the states, this disease control have expanded their definition of what a close contact means in terms of someone's ability. To spread the virus if they had this definition by the way, these definitions are fairly arbitrary based on evidence. That's not necessarily very solid. So they had a similar a criterion to us which right at the beginning of the pandemic was sh- you might remember which is he going to be within a couple of meters of somebody for fifteen minutes to have a significant. Chance of passing this on and what we know now is the aerosol spread the lows that's be contravened indoor environments but no the redefined were close contact is if you just think about that as the means of spread and there's no question that a lot of spread is through contact and what they've found is that in fact, you can be in close contact with somebody. Over a twenty, four hour period repeatedly. So it's not just a fifteen minute window. It's actually multiple occasions and it comes from correctional facilities where they've shown that tired the infection was probably cumulative infection over a period of time. So it's no longer fifteen minutes. It's still two meters in the case of the United States, but it can be over twenty four hour period not just one fifteen minute window. So multiple short episodes of content

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

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02:37 min | 4 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"This is an ABC podcast. Hello. This is corona cast a podcast about the coronavirus. I'm krenek producer Wilkinson filling in fatiguing tyler an opposition journalists. Dr Norman. Swan. It's Friday the second of October. So as number of cases come down in Australia especially in Victoria, we often hear a lot more now about how the the department in Victoria getting better at contact tracing but you think may be the way we're doing contact tracing in strawberries possibly the wrong. Why not so much the wrong way The way we're doing it has had an impact concentrating in isolation, but it still if you like a bit of the influenza, way of doing things and influenza is a much more evenly transmitted virus through the population does spread can be quite bad but more evenly spread corona virus. This corona vars is lumpy. Eighty percent of people don't spread it to anybody else ten or twenty percent of people who've got krona vires do about eighty or ninety percent of the transmission. And what you get is clusters and you got a focus on these clusters and the potential for clusters. So if all your contact tracing effort is on the person you've found and the ten people they've come in contact within the last forty eight hours since they might have been infectious. Then you're gonNA miss out on the people who might have been the people who originally transmitted this, and it's spreading through a social network. Super spreaders necessarily, but there are no social super spreading network. By the way we do. It now is looking forward. You go back to where you think that person is. Starting to be infectious, and then you look forward in that person's life to ten or twelve people that might have come in contact with them maybe more and you test them this process Luke's backwards it starts at the point where you've been infected and goes back to see who you could have been infected by. Now that does happen existing contact tracing as well. Do try and find out where you got the virus fromm. But, that's a slower process than at any not tied down. This way needs to be a little bit or indiscriminate where you say well, okay, that's got it. Could you come in contact with your in the week beforehand who's in your social group and you might go out and actually test people wouldn't necessarily qualifies a contact in a larger social grouping where you might test one hundred people for. Example and related to that person looking for the person upstream who might be the gregarious person who started a cluster off. So you putting more emphasis on where you might have got it from rather than who you might have given it to..

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04:48 min | 4 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"This is an ABC podcast. Hello. This is corona cast a podcast about the coronavirus I'm corona costs, producer Wilkinson fillion fatigue, and Taylor, an physician and journalists Dr Norman Swollen filling in for Dr Norman. Swan it's Thursday, the first of October. So there's been a lot of talk in the last couple of days about the international border and particularly from the Prime Minister says that international rivals from safe corona virus countries could avoid Herta quarantine and instead of going into Mandatory Hotel quarantaine people from those countries could go and do it in their own home. There's been quite a few questions about this coming through it. ABC. Dot Net dot edu slash corona cast including one from Kathy who says, what does Norman think of the PM suggestion about that Safe Countries Avoiding Hotel Quarantine? So this is an a nuanced, not easy problem to deal with. So there are some countries which do have very low prevalence of the virus. There's not many of them by the way, but there are some in which case you have people quarantining at home. You probably have large numbers quarantining. Technology rights even from paces with slightly higher prevalence. You only one person to get out by the way and spread the virus and you've got a major outbreak on your hands. So there is a risk they are, but you could have ankle bracelets which people could pay for, and that would be cheaper than hotel quarantine for two weeks you could have geo location on your phone you could. Have fines for giving you a phone to somebody else. But you've got to be able to know that the police whoever's going to administer canister this at huge scale, but it's possible to do that with modern technology. So it's not a bad idea and it could loosen top and it could listen up for international students particularly if you add rapid testing to the equation, but we don't ask that. Level of imposition from the government on ankle bracelets for people who are infected domestically and I selecting at Harmon we've we've spoken about this on chronic hospital four but also kathy also makes the point that one of the countries named was Japan which had more than four hundred cases on September twenty eighth alone, and she says as a Melbourne Ian in lockdown she's furious because as as you've noted, Norman that it only. Takes one case to to start another wife Yes. So you've just got to be very, very careful and this is not something you could turn on tomorrow. This is something that's got to have an infrastructure in place to make it manageable and to be as fail safe as it possibly can be. The Abbey's reported a couple of experts saying that it actually could work one was Robert and the other was paid calling. So. Do you think it's worthwhile though like if wages taking only a few countries admittedly with low A..

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10:17 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"This is an ABC podcast. Hello this is corona cost a podcast all about the Koran virus. I'm health reported. Take Tyler on Physician Journalists Dr Norman Swan. It's Monday. The eighteenth of May say Norman getting down to a really large number of active cases in Australia. Now which is really exciting. Part of what is really interesting about that is that we're getting more details on each one as they emerge and a few in the last few days seem to be related to really all cases like we're hearing the name. Ruby princess still popping up in connection to cases. We saying these people who are maybe lies. You have the virus hanging around in a really long time and is this something that could catch. Ustralia out if these people are infectious much longer than we thought and I may be escaping quarantine so this issue of outliers becomes as you say important as we get into these low numbers because then it starts to reveal where our vulnerabilities might be so when you see reports so communities spread on known then that means they don't know when they look at the chain of contacts where it's come from and if you see ruby princess the cruise ship popping up then. It means that they've got a chain of context going back to somebody who was on the Ruby. Princess not may not be directly. There may have been a few people in between you. You don't really know until you get the full details of the contact tracing but that's what's likely to happen but there's no question that in some people things go slowly so while most people will get the disease within five. Simpson's within five days and even a symptomatic people from the date of infection. It takes four or five days to become infectious. Then you've got the tale of how long you stay infectious after that. So people say well you ten days? If you're positive just to to be sure maybe seventy two hours. After your last negative infections there are various rules. Hesitate to say exactly what those rules are. Because the they do change from time to time and they may be different from state to state however there will be people who stay infectious for prolonged periods of time and there will be people whose incubation period is longer so for example. The reason that you go into quarantine for fourteen days is that fourteen days captures the vast majority of people who want to develop the disease. Now everybody gets it in five days but even fourteen days. We'll be the occasional person. Last time I looked I think it was about one in two thousand but so it's not insignificant. But it's there you go longer than fourteen days before the symptoms come out and so you will miss one or two there and if those are people who also have a prolonged infection and their infectious for a bit longer than other people you can start to see how even though the Ruby Princess. I think Dr early March doesn't take too many cycles of the virus. It's moving slowly through people to have a chain of connection going back to the ruby princess people to pop up and we've said several times on chronic cast. If if we had been aiming to eliminate the virus mistrial it really needs to go through two or three reproductive cycles of the virus assuming the reproductive cycle to be on average around fourteen days. She'd have to go about a month before. You're sure that nothing else is is popping up there to surprise you and then you could have a chain which involves somme symptomatic people spreading it under the surface. So it's really complicated this contact tracing but it does mean it does make sense of the comments that you're hearing from the authorities is that you can't relax because the virus is still circulating and it's still there to surprise us and we still don't know everything there is to be known about. This was an obvious thing to say. But it's only in time that you'll get this regular pattern and part of the problem here also is that whilst you're getting better and better descriptions of what happens to really sick people in hospitals. You're not getting great descriptions of what's happening with people at home what they're experiencing and you're not getting great follow up either of people who've had the infection so a lot of that is any daughter and this probably a bit more suffering out there from covered. Nineteen even mild to moderate covered. Nineteen than people. Imagine so I guess. The question is Khuda Australia be caught out because if these people who are out lies the answer short end spread is yes but hopefully that will be captured by our testing regime if people come forward for tasting if you've got symptoms actually got a related question to that Sally's asking about. She's read several stories of people having a long duration of a model moderate corona virus infection. Six to eight weeks or more of isolating at home with on and off favors one person said to her. They suggested that one and twenty have a long tail version of nineteen are look this up and I can't find a source to say it's one in twenty the certainly reports of people having symptoms out to forty two days as a long time and people. Listening to US will know they've had a bad case of the flu. Keeps on coming back from the symptoms from maybe a few weeks and so it's quite common. They say that it's commoner and people who've got heart disease already lung disease are in fact of or the virus. Infection is going down into their lungs talking about influenza here but maybe covered nineteen too but it is possible that your immune system just doesn't tackle it get rid of it as well as it could and what you're left with is their reaction to the virus rather than the virus itself so it's this weird situation where the few test you there's virus in your body but your body's still responding in that way and there are lots of examples of that sort of situation where you're left with symptoms without the original insult if you like being there and the key thing for people to know is particular feeling tired. This does not mean that you've got chronic. Fatigue Syndrome fatigue after viral infection is extremely common does eventually go away. You can get yourself into a bit of a cycle of thinking which doesn't help you so last week. We were talking about creative ways of blowing out. Birthday candles to avoid contaminating cakes. And we asked you to send in your ideas but before we get to that we've got a question from Melinda she's asking is the easing of restrictions. Assign that there's now less risk of contracting the virus in the community or is it a sign that we're more able to respond to and cope with infections as they occur through questionable and the answer is both there is almost certainly less circulating virus in the community so the number of cases we're seeing but is probably capturing eighty or ninety percent of the virus and the communities that's comforting and we are more able to respond infections occur because we've got a large testing regime in place so both of those need to be in place and that's exactly the situation is asking if it's true that a successful vaccine has never been found for a corona virus. Why HAVE MS and size seem to have disappeared? But we're being told that we're going to have to leave with five nineteen perhaps forever so it's not true. There's there's several hundred people. Each year of two three hundred people cheer get mirrors and about thirty percent of them die so marriage is still around. Sars disappeared because it was easy to control almost certainly the reason and they did they did develop vaccines against SARS. They did have some problems but they did develop them and there are corona virus vaccines for animals. There are some animals that get responding to. It's not brilliant but they do exist so I think that people are getting more optimistic than we have been That vaccine will be found the the reason that covered ninety. Maybe something that we have to learn with live with liver. Is this a symptomatic spray? That it just circulates. It doesn't kill a lot of people and therefore it does get spread around and spreads around quite easily so it is a very contagious virus and it is something that will come and go Even if a vaccine is phoned so last week on corona cost we were talking about some of the things that we might have to get used to living without and one of them was blowing out candles on a birthday cake. We asked you to tell us what creative blowing out techniques you've come up with and you have some really creative ideas people so Norman. Video of one of them online. You're that's right. I'll tweet decide on my on my twitter feed at Norman Swan nor do that when as we released this corona cast. This is just. Tantalize you by saying. Just hang on their leave US hanging. Why don't you describe what the video shows okay? What the video shows is of a birthday cake with candles quite tall candles and then coming down into view. So you've gotta be braved to. This one is a balloon and as the balloon reaches the candles. It bursts simplisafe the candles. I hope the person who at blow up the balloon didn't use their potentially virus light and breath to do it should be used pump and So make sure. It's a non inflammable gas wadsworth. Janine sent in one which is instead of candles. We've used sparklers. So my thought about sparklers is that when they burn out in the code. You could use them as news. You know w nasal fangio swaps practice at home but anyway. That's a really painful. Yeah a couple of people said. Sparkle is some people's sort of quarantined the cupcakes. So they've won one little girl's birthday party. She had earned cupcake. She blurring candlelight and ate that and other guests got their iron uncontaminated cupcakes crusoes as a child. My great grandfather always clapped out his candles. That was pretty good. I wonder if grandfather grew up during the nineteen. Eighteen flu. Pandemic could be a hope you hope. He washed his hands before he clapped-out candles. My favorite came from Charles. Haley says pour a bucket of carbon dioxide over the candles so he gets a bucket of dry. Ice covers it with loose-fitting lead allows us to What's the word sublimate attending into gas? And then you can actually pull that out. It's very It sounds like a a real Showy white blowing your Beth handle very good can you win on the physics and Chemistry Prize for something supplementation and then you could use the co two to take a nice photograph with the family with the dry ice smoke underneath you your Dreamy Photograph. So lots of lots of great advantage there and just keep an eye out for this Video which is really quite impressively are putting out your candles. Well that's all from us today to get to leave us a review on apple podcasts. If you can if you want to ask a question go to ABC dot net dot com slash krona virus and leave one there be sure to use.

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09:56 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"Dr Norman Swan. It's Friday the fifteenth of May. We'll noman out. Audience does not disappoint with still getting lots of questions and one of the recurring questions. This week was about quiet as we also got a very fascinating question that is asking about the link between covered nineteen and feet. We'll we'll get to that one later. The one about choirs. Lisa's asking about the risk of transmission for those people singing in choirs. I'm not sure if many people are actually getting together to sing at the moment. But what has singing got to do with the spread of covert? Well the one example that we would quote on that is actually become quite infamous in the United States. This was the choir in Skagit county Washington was mid-march and there was basically one hundred. Twenty two member choir. There were three people to from the county more from another area that were positive for SARS covy too and the nineteen virus sixty one people who attended the choir practice were known to be symptomatic. Fifty three cases identified thirty. Three confirmed twenty probable so it was an attack rate of fifty percent. You know half half the people there and two people died. Three were hospitalized. So two and a half hour choir practice session as they said in the paper. Just come out of the CDC Centers for Disease Control in the United States. The actors singing might have contributed transmission. It was a two and a half hours singing practice with lots of opportunity for droplets transmission with that quiet case. Those people said that they didn't have really any physical contact. What is it about singing? That makes your to transmit virus. I Fi- I think it's what we've been talking about. Beforehand is that some people even think of speaking loud voice exercising. When you're taking deep breaths and you're expelling those breasts not really thinking about it. Droplets are actually coming out of your lungs. And your throat. And they're going quite a long way and they're probably going even longer wave in the six feet of they probably weren't social distancing with social distancing of this practice. I think they weren't but even if they were the go along way. And so these are risky activities and should be very careful about them. So practice on Zuma's misery the message I think what about other potentially risky activities like say candle blowing. I saw a friend of mine blowing at her birthday candles with a hairdryer the other night. I think that's very sensible. Kendall Buhl is the same thing you've just got to take a deep breath and you're gonNA blow out all the candles on your cake. How many candles depending of course on how? Auger or young you're pretending to be but this is something where again like singing. The droplets could go along way so I think we should have a competition for reasons of CHRONIC CAST. Come up with inventive ways of blowing out the candles on the cake. Oh my gosh I can already think of. So many yes sending. You're sending your suggestions. People do have a where people sending them in our them into. Abc Dot net slash corona virus. And make sure you market corona cast. I think I'm GonNa get an old school. Set of bellows like what a blacksmith used to use right. Catherine's asking your related question. She's saying if SARS covy to spread by droplets. But you can be an asymmetric transmitter of it. How these people who don't have symptoms spreading it if they're not coughing sneezing because a good question but they may moby sneezing. We sneeze more often than you think so. It could be sneezing. It could just be by expelling droplets into the air. And you catch them in front of you. It could be by contact. With surfaces a symptom people will come close to its controversial. Just how much spread is from surfaces. But it could be six or ten percent of spread but maybe more than that in some circumstances but I think if you really think about how you are. During the day we sneeze more than you think. Says he's asking how many times to get tested to rule it out completely. She sang she had a sore throat few weeks ago. She got tested. She got negative resolve to wake lightish. Just had another sore throat. No other symptoms. Does she get tested again? How often should she get tested if her throat keeps flaring up? I think if you're getting recurrent sore throats she needs to go and see your general practitioner or your primary care physician to see what might be going on the you. Do I think regardless if you let's say a month ago you had funny symptoms and you had a test and it was negative and you've got symptoms again that you can't explain? You should be tested again because you can be infected the very next day after a negative test. Kansas skiing the. Who has said we might never be rid of the novel coronavirus. We might just have to learn to live with it. And he's asking. Is it true? The common called is corona virus and that science has been unable to discover a vaccine for it. It's true that the some of the viruses that cause the common cold or corona viruses and two of them in particular are reasonably related to the SARS covy to virus and the have not been able to develop an effective vaccine against the common cold. It's been very which is one reason why. Some people are a bit skeptical that a vaccine is going to be possible to this corona virus but having said that and there are about eighty or one hundred vaccines in trial and hopefully some of those will be successful. They successfully in vaccines is about ten percent. So if as eighty or ninety in trial maybe nine or ten of them might turn up to have efficacy. And it's got a question about ten. She's asking if everyone who gets rhinovirus goes on to develop Nineteen Nova don't new is uncertain. How many people stay completely a symptomatic? Some people get mild symptoms. But it's far from everybody gets it. I think the last one of my people thought then maybe thirty percent of people. It's maybe as many as that could be symptomatic. All the way through some people believe it's much lower percentage than that but selling not everybody goes on to get covered nineteen so you get infected with this SARS covy to virus and some people possibly the majority going to get some sort of illness like a coffin cold fatigue loss of taste and so on and an even smaller percentage of those very small percentage go onto needing to be hospitalized or go into intensive care. It is a bit confusing. This new disease is new virus. We kind of got three different names for it. Yeah that's right so the viruses sauce coffee to the diseases covered. Nine thousand nine hundred and often on the krona will call covered nineteen virus. So here's a question for. Ut COMES FROM SONIA. She says as appear remain concerned about the advice around older adolescents. Fifteen to nineteen years old and the spirit of covered one thousand nine hundred schools discussion schools in Australia notably lacks any reference to ages. Which concerns me? Can I please ask that you try to explore this issue further? Let's explore it. It is a tricky one and one of the reasons why the discussion does seem to lack. Reference to ages is because of just dot. We don't really know enough so it's true that the terminology kids it super broad and it's pretty clear that what is true for a five year old is not necessarily true for someone who's seventeen and three quarters biologically. Yeah the part of the problem with talking about kids is the way that data is catching and reported in different studies. It varies so sometimes the age range may be broken down into five ages in some studies and then other studies just have everyone under a is just lumped into a category. There's a pre print study Sonya's asking about spread that the ability of all adolescents to spread the virus There's a study that we've spoken about on current costs before it's not peer reviewed but it brings together a lot of different studies. What it looked at was family clusters so multiple members of a household who all ended up getting a nineteen and looked at how often the child was the first case in the household and it was only about ten percent of cases. Compared with bird flu where kids were the first half of the time but again. This study is saying kids. Is anyone under eighteen and adults anyone over eighteen but that paper referenced? A study of of a large number of household clusters which didn't detect a single cluster. Where the first case was a kid under the age of fifteen and only three where the first case was someone between sixteen and eighteen so it looks like kids less likely to spread the virus. Then maybe we might have thought from looking at previous diseases. And there's other. There's other studies that have broken this down. There's one in Europe where once physical distancing measures were put in place young adults and adolescents will be responsible for more of the spread but even this study is lumping anyone aged between fifteen and thirty four together. So it's definitely a space to continue watching but so far it looks like people under eighteen are responsible for spread than adults. We'll keep an eye on anything you. We'll get back to you. One last question for you. Norman giants asking. She's had seven weeks at high. She's been barefoot. The most of the time we outburts but you got to go at recently. She put on a comfy pair of shoes and they just about killed her. She's wondering is possible for your feet to change size after just seven weeks if not wearing shoes. And what are we going to do and we all have to go back to work? I think this is something that we have to commission a very large piece of research wrong but will cry will crowdsource this one as well just as we crowd source information out there. Is this an expedience of other people who've been on social distancing at home on lockdown for notice? Their fruit have changed size in the meantime uniting. And we'll scour international research for the answer to this. I'm doing first person research right now because I am currently wearing boots putting my buddy on the line for science. We'll that's good. I've kept my feet closely in case just because I can't afford to buy new shoes get bigger but Jane. We'll get back to you on this one. Keep tuned in well. That's all from us today. Don't they get to leave a review on Apple podcasts? And if you want to ask a question go to ABC dot net dot Edu Slash Corona virus and leave there be sure to use the word corona cast and. Don't forget our crowdsourcing questions getting there with them. Candles and swollen feet. See you on Monday next week..

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10:04 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"This is an ABC podcast. Hello this is corona cast a podcast all about the corona virus. I'm Physician Journalists Dr Norman Swan and I'm health report a taken tyler. It's Thursday the thirtieth of April. So we get a lot of questions about kids and Corona virus understandably. People worried about kids but so far. It's been pretty good news because it looks like in general that don't get really severely ill but they have been some pretty sobering anecdotes coming out of the kids with carved getting a really serious syndrome. That has something to do with inflammation. Yeah more than any toward these are case reports. There's been about twenty as of the twenty four hours ago and what these kids are showing is. It's twenty kids in the population of whatever is in sixty million and all the thousands of cases of covered nineteen so it's not hugely common but it is worrying so the key to getting a syndrome. That looks like something called Kawasaki Syndrome now. Kawasaki Syndrome is a rare syndrome. Where Kids Skits Arash? The rash can on the palm of the hands can cause peeling because strawberry red tongue and it can affect their heart and they can really get quite sick. It's very rare. I mean when I was training once upon a time a long time ago when I was a boy to be a pediatrician. I only ever saw one. Case of Kawasaki Syndrome is another syndrome. They lose a little bit. Like how a Sacchi? Because you can't get a red tongue and Arash but it is different. It's called toxic shock. Syndrome. I hear about young girls getting that to do with Tampon. Use Your that was some years ago and was when tampons had a different design. Were to absorbent. And in fact they became infected and became infected with a streptococcus Jerem which can produce a toxin antitoxin caused the rash and all the other problems and with toxic shock syndrome. You can actually get a really serious and in some people life threatening crash in blood pressure so those are the two things that they saw in the children. Look like how a sake looks a bit like toxic shock and various things in between and what they did was. They put out an alert because they can. They're really good in the UK by being able to amalgamate the reports from hospitals. They were able to actually get all these reports together and alert other pediatricians because it may just be a coincidence. That these cases have arisen or maybe due to covered nineteen a couple of the kids Scott Inflammation in their heart muscle myocarditis. None of them died and they do seem to be doing okay. So they're not. This is not a terminal event but it does have echoes of what's happening in adults with serious severe covered. Nineteen disease where? It's much more than just a lung disease. It's an arterial inflammation and inflammation of the arteries. Getting blood. Clotting. It's a weird in virus causing weird effects throughout the body and this is what seems to be happening in these kids now. The garden initial criticism for saying are we panicking about this but it it does seem to be more than a coincidence but the other thing that some American pediatrician said well. Why aren't we seeing it? Here why is it only Britain? Well it's probably Britain's first because they've got this really good way of reporting and we can bring together these events and start to see it on a mass scale but it turns out that when you talk to Italian pediatricians and even some American pediatricians. They've actually been seeing the same thing so it may well be a serious complication but not a fatal complication of covered. Nineteen and what and what this is showing is that this is a generalized disorder. I mean these kids. Kids tend to get more abdominal pain and diarrhea. It seems to have more of a of a gastric kind of element to their disease. But it's a whole of body infection. Not just the lungs so it feels like kids and young adults. That is people below fifty. Maybe being affected more badly than we thought because you mentioned the. Us There's been cases are being reported in the in New York. That adults in their thirties. Forties and fifties are having strikes. Let me just say. Oh on the Worse than thought some some kids are being treated worse than the thought but kids are still getting overwhelmingly a mild disease so for example. I interviewed a pediatrician in London. It's Mary's Hospital in London and they got all ready for this. Pandemic can be cleared beds for in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit in the Children's Ward and no children turned up essentially children. Were not getting that sick. So you've got these few children who are getting very sick but they had empty beds and in fact the pediatricians were study. They opened up their their wards to adults and the pediatricians had to learn looking after after adults and yes. There's been this report in the New England Journal of Medicine of five people who are relatively young one example. Thirty three year old woman who turned out with coughs headaches and chew also in other words the typical story of covered nineteen and then she couldn't speak properly. She had numbness in her left arm and left leg and she didn't turn up a hospital. She thought she was going to catch covered. Nineteen but in fact she had covered nineteen and she actually had a stroke with a clot in what's called the in the right middle cerebral artery which is typically where you do get strokes in older people. And she had all the long signs on scanning of of covered nineteen and so she. She made a reasonable recovery. But she had to go to Rehab. And there's been other five other cases as well so these are cases where it's not the tiny vessels it's the large vessels in the neck and in the head in the brains getting clotted and there are stories now. Lots of stories coming through of clotting problems in in in these patients with covered nineteen not just in young people but in older people as well and stories of specialists going in and putting in a catheter in when looking at the X. ray of the catheter can see the clock forming on the catheter as they do it really quite scary stuff. One thing about that case the New England Journal of Medicine Case Report. That really got me as a person in their thirties was that these people were coming in. Didn't seem to have any pre existing conditions anything that would indicate that I would be likely to have a strike where we've said this again and again on colonel casts right since the beginning of the epidemic where young people feel bulletproof with this disease. In fact young people do die the died in China in Wuhan and WHO Bay and elsewhere in China and they died in Italy with no particular risk factors otherwise healthy young people are one of the first reports and the W. H. O. team that went into China. Came back with was that young people die dine significant numbers and they have no risk factors. And what you see what you've seen. Elsewhere is not so many in Italy because the dominant group where the elderly but in New York and in America where you've got a younger population and you've got a vast amount of the SARS Kavi to dot virus around. Then young people do turn up in emergency departments really very sick. And it's just a numbers game. It still rarer to die when you're younger then if you're older but it does happen. That's definitely not just a bad flu much more than you. This is. This is a very different disease and again we've been saying that since the very beginning of the krona cast continuing to receive questions from the audience and Norman. Christine is asking. You said the other day. That kind of it has to have an effect on the brain in some sufferers. Can you talk about that in a bit more detail? Is it changing the way people think? Yeah there's there are some reports of people who are recovering from covered nine thousand nine. Who are not thinking properly in their memories of factors and it's thought that this coming back to the clocks east probably not a big stroke but it could be minor strokes happening in the brain or could be inflammation of the arteries of the brain. And it's still early days to know whether these effects are permanent or not and again as we said at the beginning of this going on the SARS epidemic in two thousand to two thousand and three that people recovered well. It's really not clear that people are always recovering well from SARS Kavi to from covered nineteen and fixing the brain one of the longer lasting effects. But that's still got to be proven and we've got Leslie asking about that loss of sense of taste and smell which is a symptom. That's been described as well. She's thinking it's not yet listed as a symptom that enables people to get tested. Should we be testing for that? We could be missing potential positive cases. I think we're getting trillion where almost any symptom is good. Excuse for being tested and no. I don't think you'll ever be turned away and I think lots of taste and smell is a cardinal symptom of this perhaps Communist. They thought at one point but I think if you lost your taste or smell suddenly. You should get tested for covered. Nine hundred eleven is any question about that at all one. Listen Tasmania's asking about a case that Maybe was inconclusive. What do we know about the reliability of the test? This test is not one hundred percent reliable. I don't think we've accurate figures on what's called the false negative rate in other words if you've covered nineteen hundred miss it but in fact it it will miss some people with covered in one thousand nine and it's kind of inevitable when you're doing these mass tests so there are lots of things that can go wrong here. Do we. Put the swab at the right point at the back of the nose into a tour around enough and vigorous enough to pick up cells from the back of the throat A problem with a medium you can. This is a test that can go wrong. And you can either be negative or the not very sure whether it's positive and if you've cooked continuing symptoms it's reasonable to have the test repeated..

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on Mason & Ireland

Mason & Ireland

03:04 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Mason & Ireland

"Dr Norman Swan made a cautionary suggestion when it comes to a fart and the spread of covert nineteen. He says quote. Luckily we wear a mask which covers our gas all the time pants shorts underwear but to be safe. You shouldn't pass gas when you're close to other people and you shouldn't Fart with your bottom bear. This could redefine the term silent but deadly Had It ever occurred to you that we could pass the virus by farting and will you take an additional precaution because of the research about farts and Cova. Nineteen your first question. I know it never occurred to me but I have an observation in. Tell me if you agree. If you gotta go you gotTa go Kinda Right. It's like it's not like you can control always I mean. Sometimes you can't but wait a minute of course you can control it. No yes you can always control it when you were dating Lisa. Tell me I mean at some point right it was. It was standard issue that you both farted but at the beginning yeah far from her as long as possible right. Yeah until a certain point so you were able to hold it back until you're comfortable enough with Lisa to be able to do it this way. If you're on a plane okay. You don't want to get up. You don't want to go to the back you don't you if you can. Let's let's have an honest discussion about okay. Honest discussion yes. You want to control the sound but you can't completely suppress the act. You know you on us. You're right you can. You can release it into the seat of a plane correct and if you do according to Your Australian doctors. You're putting others at risk you are. You're putting others at risk so it's dangerous. Let me answer your question this way. I'll do what I can. I'll try hard not to do it but I would like to think I always do what I can. You know you know it's funny i. I'm assuming that you now have the relationship with Lisa where you fart in front of each other right not. Yeah like I was GONNA say not intentionally but sure because I never did with one ever ever under any circumstance neither did he and one day he did and from that point on off to the races. Didn't that was where once it happens once. Okay it's all right you know if if I do it now you know the very first thing. I say what Reagan blame the dog. Blame the dog. Then go Reagan. That's terrible what are you doing pissed off? That told that I would be too. I was going to think that you have clearance to tell that I don't know this. So yeah clearly. All right launch fast track all right. Mace chippendales has.

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

WCBM 680 AM

01:47 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"Of time now sure you wanna go first second or last other last night well good luck to you here are your stores North Korea story number one north Korea's accusing South Korea of intentionally infecting their dear leader Kim Jong own with covert nineteen north Korean state media said that there are no confirmed cases of cover nineteen in their country in the south Koreans wanted to remove Kim Jong on and spread the disease in their country story to a growing movement of liberal women who have a crush on the Cuomo's both governor Andrew Cuomo who is single by the way and CNN's Chris Cuomo who is married now this started with Chelsea handler with these woman are now calling themselves Cuomo sexuales right this crap times story three New York times well you're probably right two Australian doctors are weighing in on the support of the corona virus down under no not in Australia but in your nether regions through flatus what's another region Dr Norman swan said the recently advised on the poster pandemic panic no bare bottom farting another doctor said the yes bottom based emissions Chamath spread the corona virus so that would being silent and deadly yeah yeah we're gonna have to get a muffler for a are you a real master career masks and he's a big match I can tell you that those things go through your underwater go through genes and the world as aware correct they said no bare bottomed so yeah so a mask on our faces.

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on WTMJ 620

WTMJ 620

03:05 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on WTMJ 620

"And hosted Dr Norman swan to meet a scholarship every suggestion when it comes to particles Senate draft within a fart and this covert nineteen he says luckily we are indeed wearing masks in this regard which cover our flatulence all the time he's talking of course of pants shorts dresses underwear other garments you got close on right this is I think that what we should do in terms of social distancing and being safe is that you know don't far close to other people I bet you don't start with your bottom bear which let's be honest is a principle that we all could treasure and really need to embody moving forward meanwhile in Australian emergency physician Dr Andy tag also floated the question via Twitter asking you know just how potential isn't that flatulence could carry the virus the of the doctor observed afterwards that there is not a great deal of research available to come to a firm conclusion about the perils of passing covert nineteen while passing gas so in the end I guess the jury is still out but as long as you're wearing pants will be okay in that regard then again what's the what what's the what's the key takeaway from this oh that's right social distancing be safe don't foreclose to other people and do not fart with your bottom bear it's funny when I say it it would be funny to hear it in the Australian accent next so New York mayor bill de Blasio's critics are not letting him know how they really feel about him ordering new Yorkers are if you noticed this or saw this early to snitch on each other for violating talking about social distancing violating those rules he set up a tip line with the opportunity for folks to call and leave a message with who they're snitching on there's also a tax line as well well yes indeed new Yorkers have taken to leaving crank complaints including inappropriate photos of certain body parts so we saved him people flipping the bird to the mayor photos of extended middle fingers the mayor dropping the Staten Island groundhog in news coverage of him going to the gym have all been texted to the tip line that the Blasi announced over the weekend according to the screenshots posted on Twitter one user saying quote we will fight this tyrannical overreach to the service and got an automated message that said in part hello and thank you for texting and why C. three one one other people have been a little bit more vulgar shall we say all kinds of profanity being hurled at this texting tip line including.

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

Newsradio 600 KOGO

08:16 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO

"Closes stores and restaurants and small businesses when every citizen of the New York metro area the locked in their homes for months what new Yorkers except the decimation of their economic and social lives because North Carolina and Georgia or even more absurdly Colorado Montana the rest of what most new Yorkers regardless whenever country had eighteen thousand nine hundred sixty does when they only have eight hundred fifty eight it's possible writes Mr Prager but he continues by saying I suspect that anyone with an open mind assumes that new Yorkers would not put up with ruining their economic and social lives putting tens of millions of people out of work because of virus deaths in New York or Georgia or Montana and Idaho and Mr Prager writes for the record I would have agreed with him I would have if I were in New York and I only have eight or fifty eight deaths in the metro area and a couple states out there have a thirteen thousand I'm not shutting down for about in New York in his latest column a New York times columnist Thomas Looby Friedman who expertise supposedly in foreign policy blueprint Friedman's a guy who thinks we need to be more like China Thomas Friedman back during the Obama years wrote isn't it wonderful how they operate in China at like eleven or twelve people decide everything the best and the brightest smartest people and it gets everything done they can build things right like that moment they can make a decision if implemented that moment what about Congress to worry about the Senate to worry about figuring back and forth the Chinese model said Dr Friedman and loosely slogan is what we should aspire to some abject idiot Paul Krugman economics columnist New York is an abject idiot and yet they hold on to their precious reputations of expertise at any rate the New York times columnist Thomas Friedman inadvertently revealed how New York centric his view of America is Friedman like virtually all of his colleagues at the new York times opposes opening up any state in America at this time he wrote every personal be playing Russian roulette every minute of every day do I get on this crowded bus to go to work or not what if I get on the subway the person next to me is not wearing gloves and a mask only a New Yorker one right those two sentences **** only in New York do people go to work on buses routinely and mass transit same thing was subways illustrating one of the big differences between New York and the rest of the country in mass trend by the way the subways were not shut down they were deemed necessary to get its actual employees do their jobs is it any wonder that there's been such a rapid rate of the spreading of the virus in New York anyway only in the way of our order Kerr would write those two sentences Prager lives in Los Angeles and he says in the forty years I've lived in the second largest city in America I've never written on a subway or any other intra urban train or bus in fact it's common for new Yorkers look at Los Angeles with disdain him because of the car culture like the vast majority of Americans everywhere outside of New York City Los Angeles most of us got to work visit family and friends go to social and cultural events by car if the lifesaving weiter traveled on my bus not by subway which is the New York way of getting around he's not trying to Stoke rivalries are just making a valid point this shut down in many ways has not been necessary nationwide a one size fits all policy that necessarily hasn't fit your early days you can understand it maybe but as evidence is continue to pour in this is why people are protesting the American people get it and at some point they're willing to take some risks just how long do we go how long do we go with this watching here is an jobs and businesses and livelihoods literally be shuttered and watching what's happening to the oil industry when the data on which all this is based may not even be accurate thank Graham sound bite number six this is Louisiana senator John Kennedy he was on mornings with Maria Bartiromo today on the fox business network she said are you worried are you worried that we're opening too soon senator Sir I'm worried we are more worried you don't know what we've never been here before but we got to eat we gotta save all eyes will got to save wisely this extra miserable George but this much I do know we cannot leave this economy shut down or it's going to collapse the federal reserve is holding it together with us and our doctor and if the American economy collapses the world economy clashes now some of the training a week say well Kennedy doesn't care about your life yeah I care about human live you can die from poverty did I care about saving lives and livelihoods and I think that's the way most of them that's not a problem that's not that what Kennedy thanks to the critics that that's not the proper course everybody in any common sense knows we got over the problem is people like Alexandria Ocasio Cortez who came along celebrating the destruction of the oil industry yesterday said it was a beautiful thing yeah I absolutely love to see it you'll love to see all the jobs lost she quickly deleted it but it's out there the point is there are millions of Democrats who are hoping this goes on who are hoping for the very light I'm not kidding and you meet Russia's little over chopstick people care but actually want this and it may be over the top if you don't know Democrats and liberals like I do but you don't even have to know them like I do just listening to them just watched them the last thing on their mind is opening up and they're all democratic governors in this poor they do not want to do it they've got an election to win in November don't you know by the way my friends there couldn't be a another way of both spreading and the choir rating the corona virus and we all this discovery to our great friends in Australia the Australian broadcasting company likely we wear a mask which covers our farts overtime I think that what we should do in terms of social distancing and being safe is that a policy on the part of the entire string population should be that you don't a farce close twelve and that you don't fart with your bottom bear no bare bottom format is a real broadcast and the Australian broadcast companies corona cast podcast they call host T. again Taylor said to call host Dr Norman swan Norman swan the doctors is that we got to stop farting and we're gonna start far even gonna be you know most people have a natural mask I remember when I got in trouble way back a long time ago for existing we can make the roads safer if we made women stop farting in their cars now hearing people out there saying this while they're driving maravillas as is routinely I gotta take a break hang on my friends will be back as we resume E. IBA excellence in broadcasting right after this.

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on KSFO-AM

KSFO-AM

08:16 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on KSFO-AM

"Closes stores and restaurants and small businesses when every citizen of the New York metro area the walked in their homes for months what new Yorkers except the decimation of their economic and social lives because North Carolina and Georgia or even more absurdly Colorado Montana the rest of what most New Yorkers regardless whenever country had eighteen thousand nine hundred sixty thousand and they only had eight hundred fifty eight would New York shut down it's possible writes Mr Prager but he continues by saying I suspect that anyone with an open mind assumes that new Yorkers would not put up with ruining their economic and social lives putting tens of millions of people out of work because of virus deaths in New York or Georgia or Montana and Idaho and Mr Prager writes for the record I would have agreed with him I would have if I were in New York and I only have eight or fifty eight deaths in the metro area and a couple states out there have a thirteen thousand I'm not shutting down for that in New York in his latest column a New York times columnist Thomas Looby Friedman who expertise supposedly in foreign policy blueprint Friedman's a guy who thinks we need to be more like China Thomas Friedman back during the Obama years wrote isn't it wonderful how they operate in China at like eleven or twelve people decide everything the best and the brightest smartest people and it gets everything done they can build things right like that moment they can make a decision and implement it that moment what about Congress the worry about the center of the worry about figuring back and forth the Chinese model said Dr Friedman and Leslie's blog is what we should aspire to some abject idiot Paul Krugman economics columnist New York is an abject idiot and yet they hold on to their precious reputations of expertise at any rate the New York times columnist Thomas Friedman inadvertently revealed how New York centric his view of America is Friedman like virtually all of his colleagues at the new York times opposes opening up in NY state in America at this time he wrote every personal be playing Russian roulette every minute of every day do I get on this crowded bus to go to work or not what if I get on the subway in the person next to me is not wearing gloves and a mask only a New Yorker one right those two sentences **** only in New York do people go to work on buses routinely and mass transit same thing was subways illustrating one of the big differences between New York and the rest of the country in mass trend by the way the subways were not shut down they were deemed necessary to get its actual employees do their jobs is it any wonder that there's been such a rapid rate to the spreading of the virus in New York anyway only in the way of our order Kerr would write those two sentences Prager lives in Los Angeles and he says in the forty years I've lived in the second largest city in America I've never written on a subway or any other intra open train or bus in fact it's common for new Yorkers look at Los Angeles with disdain him because of the car culture like the vast majority of Americans everywhere outside of New York City Los Angeles most of us get to work visit family and friends go to social and cultural events by car if the lifesaving weiter travel not my boss not by subway which is the New York way of getting around he's not trying to Stoke rivalries are just making a valid point this shut down in many ways has not been necessary nationwide a one size fits all policy that necessarily hasn't fit your early days you can understand it maybe but as evidence is continue to pour in this is why people are protesting the American people get it and at some point they're willing to take some risks just how long do we go how long do we go with this watching there is an jobs and businesses and livelihoods literally be shuttered and watching what's happening to the oil industry when the data on which all this is based may not even be accurate I grab some by number six this is Louisiana senator John Kennedy he was on mornings with Maria Bartiromo today on the fox business network she said are you worried are you worried that we're opening too soon senator Sir I'm worried we are more worried you don't know what we've never been here before but we got to eat we got to say the last movie I decide wisely it's a miserable George but this much I do know we cannot leave this economy shut down or it's going to collapse the federal reserve is holding it together with us and our doctor and if the American economy collapses the world economy clashes now some of the training a week say well Kennedy doesn't care about human life yeah I care about human live you can die from poverty did not care about saving lives and livelihoods and I think that's the way most of them that's not a problem that's not the what Kennedy thanks to the critics that that's not the proper course everybody have any common sense knows we got over the problem is people like Alexandria Ocasio Cortez who came along celebrating the destruction of the oil industry yesterday in a beautiful thing yeah absolutely love to see it you'll love to see all the jobs lost she quickly deleted it but it's out there the point is there are millions of Democrats who are hoping this goes on who are hoping for the very life I'm not kidding and you may Russia's little over chops eight people care about actually want this name may be over the top if you don't know Democrats and liberals like I do but you don't even have to know them like I do just listen to them just watched them the last thing on their mind is opening up and they're all democratic governors in this poor they do not want to do it they've got an election to win in November not you know by the way my friends there could be another way of both spreading and the choir rating the corona virus and we all this discovery to our great friends in Australia the Australian broadcasting company likely we wear a mask which covers our farts all the time I think that what we should do in terms of social distancing and being safe is that a policy on the part of the entire string population should be that you don't a farce close twelve and that you don't fart with your bottom bear nor bare bottom format is a real broadcast and the Australian broadcast companies corona cast podcast they call host T. again Taylor said to call host Dr Norman swan Norman swan the doctors is that we got to stop farting yeah we got a star party even gonna be you know most people have a natural mask I remember when I got in trouble way back a long time ago for Justin we can make the roads safer if we made women stop farting in their cars now hearing people out there saying this while they're driving maravillas as is routinely I gotta take a break hang on my friends will be back as we resume E. I. B. excellence in broadcasting right after.

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

WMAL 630AM

13:03 min | 9 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

"More efficiently its freight liners number one goal what story two Australian doctors have been discussing whether the corona virus can be passed through passing gas Iran during Friday's from the New York Post during Friday's episode of the Australian broadcast corporations corona cast podcast producer and host Dr Norman swan made a cautionary suggestion when it comes to the particles that can be sept set adrift okay with passing gas and the possibility of the spreading of cove in nineteen okay can I read the quote well I mean we're already into it so sure okay I'm gonna read the quota this is this is the quote from the doctor no bare bottom bottom farting end of quote the doctor advised about posterior pandemic panic is this really a problem hi no I've never been to Australia I really don't know their ways I don't know their society with their practices but something tells me this probably isn't at the top of the list well they pondered whether flatulence isn't in itself is an aerosol generating procedures and you know what else can we talk in this in purely medical technical terms and I'm not apparently not it what they get to the park we're in a recent study has suggested that any yeah suggested that a post flush toilet plume okay Pete the cat gets when it comes just reading the yeah because I do want to see doctor volunteering birch discussed this and the preventive measures well but somebody's going to ask a question you know who will be right yeah Greg got field he'll get he'll get a pass to go to the White House to be in the press room for just that one question got fought no I thought was good no I thought of your say Jim Acosta was gonna ask if yeah okay he might make I don't know they didn't suggest that there's not a great deal of research in this area I'm who wants to be a part of that team I don't want to be a part of that task force this came from the lab now now no well it's it's beyond the their acronym could be well there there the overall say the acronym but it would stand for fast and ready team but the faster ready team is available to us in writing team is here they're on it the and the best ready T. money's time says well look if if this is a problem or having social distancing is not normally a problem here right it happens naturally and remember whoever fell to delta I don't even know if we man this is clear medicinal compensation for some reason the word for low keeps hitting my brain like something in the future is going to happen to me I don't know what it's going to be but the word furlough comes to mind so that's one of the two concerns thank you I am thank you New York Post from yesterday's yesterday afternoon thanks for that and that's thank you your post that's a very okay we have to know I mean this is all part of I don't know how it works right well I'm still convinced at some point scientist a hundred years from now well yeah we had a there was a pandemic back in twenty twenty and it came from buying too much toilet paper it's it's going to be I'm you knew we were going to get to this I guess my point you knew that and and and I'm guessing some of these doctors and professors might be might be working in a lab at some of the more or working from home and drinking heavily frankly I'm just worried about in the morning I got to make sure I get to the store I don't want to be you know to be totally off the shelves yeah no kidding well you do but you know though I mean some of the some of the items that but they've been stocking up on dry items rice beans seriously I was in the store yesterday morning to be banned well I was yeah I was in the store yesterday morning and and and you know I at the end of that I'll actually just been stocked and I thought well now's the time I haven't made any yet I just I like but but if I'll tell you this when it's all said and done we're gonna have a bean cook off we're going to have to have it because there's no way to use that many beings that we purchased collectively as a nation or as the world is a global I guess he's like a bird's going to you know ban use always how they want to ban anything if there's like any protest announcements they're going to ban that because it's against government official policies yes right so will the next with a with a band blazing saddles if they find out no my gosh so that's giving the wrong impression of what have you been when you would have to be on that yeah yeah everybody knows a scene that I'm talking about yeah yep okay yeah I don't know speaking of slim Pickens there were a lot of things that weren't on the shelf yesterday at the grocery store still I but it didn't seem like that things were getting slightly back to normal there were things I didn't buy any but there were there was toilet paper available there was a lot of paper products were available yes the more maybe I just got there at the right time I haven't been out a long time I hadn't been in the store to to go grocery stop shopping or pick up you know any items in in a while it's been maybe a week and a half or two weeks before I'd been looking actually looking for something specific and then I just went down with the the aisle where the where the paper products were and it was not fully stocked but there were there was there were some on the shelf yeah so Australia huh well I I know you just you just had me that when you said slim Pickens I started thinking of doctor strange love and when they were in the bomber in there get their emergency supply pack in case they have to bail I was thinking of that yeah right we're gonna get to that do you think we're going to become a nation of preppers no no longer the government's values out why well no I I you know I don't think so I think people will I think after we're done with this I I I do think that again all it all matters on information because none of us have ever dealt with this before mmhm when you see because I've noticed just in the last twenty four hours the fact that you know three states is that okay we're gonna salary probably opening up in all of its based on information and the information is based on what we see that we believe that the tally rate is a lot less we believe in as we said early on and it was no reason to panic that if it ends up being true that a lot more people are infected with that that's actually a good thing because that means that the death rate is a lot lower and it means a lot of people are a symptomatic and it seems like we're going down that path right now that you know that this is something that really doesn't affect the majority of people in fact the majority of people don't show any symptoms at all and I'm wondering is that the same thing because everybody wants to make the comparison to the flu we've never done that and we've never said use of locums about different virus I I'm not comparing to the flu because it's not influenza it's not a flu virus right so I'm not going to compare to that I understand people doing that but if you look at the flute does the flu it seems like this would be a question I would ask maybe a month from now when we have a lot more information do people actually get the flu and it doesn't affect them at all that's it are you good question because we we don't test into were symptomatic right is it possible you could be a symptomatic and have the flu virus I would I do that I think that's a very valid question because it would it would change things drastically and if we're going to measure things in terms of you know the way we look at right now what we know from what we know coronavirus covert nineteen is more contagious than the flu or is it could you have a number of people in society that cares that are carriers essentially it if you're non symptomatic if you're a symptomatic and and you're walking around and you know maybe a you have the Sniffles or a little bit of a cough but you don't go into full bloom mode where you have fever and body aches and everything else it doesn't attack your system like it does others or maybe you have it sometimes and it doesn't do that or and once every few years or several years it does because you're I don't know your immunity is low that would change the death rate the finality rate and also the nature the contagious nature of the actual virus the flu I'd I'd that's it I think that's something that that probably should be explored because you look at you know I mean you go back to a nineteen eighty and we didn't have the communications ability that we have today we certainly didn't have the technology now we have the data center but the so you look at the ability to test and could that be a you know could that be something where they would want to sample the public and you know and and look to see I would like to run a flu test on you we know you're not showing the symptoms just the state maybe they've been maybe the person has been exposed to it or maybe again if they are a symptomatic but that's they they actually the the the viruses is with them but it's not all presenting and that would be a question that I would ask we we are probably going to test a lot more people for coronavirus people that show no symptoms at all right we really don't do that for the flu right don't do we I mean do they do staff I mean I have a I would have done that does the national institutes of health and the CDC do they actually do that do they say okay we're gonna test during flu season we're gonna do a cross section of America and we're going to do is is that being done all the time or do they occasionally do test like that in certain years to add to and bring in people right off the street can you hear that because that's my question we keep talking about the a symptomatic people that have the corona virus I've never heard that discussion with people that have the flu right I haven't either because typically until now I mean you know this is it's rare to have a pandemic and typically until now what is it you become symptomatic and then you treat right and so I've never heard.

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

Coronacast

08:39 min | 11 months ago

"dr norman swan" Discussed on Coronacast

"Hi Dr Norman Swan physician journalists from our INS health report so that cases in New South Wales really growing way not gonNA stop banning mass gatherings for notice growing in New South Wales and memory. Global audience here. The growing in places like the United States and Canada too. So it's not just here and the issue I think for all our countries is when you as you say star band. Mass gatherings SORTA BE PAROCHIAL AUTO PEOPLE. Who listen to us from overseas but which has had a music festival in Victoria in Regional Victoria. That's some state here and somebody's compulsive twelve thousand. People were at that. So what do you do with the twelve thousand people? We've got a situation where the government has just said the other day that we're going to spend two point four billion on various things about testing and fever clinics. And what have you and yet? There are proudly continuing with the Australian Grand Prix which we record people are going to turn up. And our prime minister proudly said he's turning up to his football match to watch Cornell You know basically the sharks played the rabbitohs where maybe forty or sixty thousand people are going to turn up and thinks that's fine and the answer is if you were to ask an Italian in northern Italy when you were at one hundred and fifty cases in Italy. What would you wish you'd done and what would you think? If the Italian Grand Prix had gone ahead and various. Prove all matches would you? Would you actually have canceled? What do you think? The answer's going to be. It is outrageous that we're building. Yeah again Things that are basically were spending money on ambulance of the bottom of the cliff and we're not building the fence and our governments are losing credibility. Because they're doing stupid stuff cypher. Individuals don't wait till the government cancelled things. Just stay home stay home. Bobby should be canceling things because we will pay the price of it. Fourteen days to two to three weeks from now. It's already spreading throughout the community. We're already getting community transmission. Were already getting people who have got no obvious contact with people who've been overseas starting to get it and what's happening now in terms of spread you will not see for another two weeks so this is serious stuff and now's the time to stop mass gatherings in all our countries and look what's the worst thing that can happen. The shock jocks in six weeks. Say well nothing happened is the best case scenario at great news. Nothing happened so the whole point of credit cost is answering as many of your questions as we can. You can send them in by going to. Abc Dot net slash corona virus. Let's start with Tom. Hanks he and his wife have tested positive. The Card Nineteen He. Where did he get coronavirus from? Well I think that's an open question and I don't know enough about the Tom Hanks. Case he's been here for a while filming. Apparently but I think he's also going back to the United States I think given the prevalence of covered nineteen in Queensland on the Gold Coast. It's more likely if he has been he hasn't been back to. America is caught it in California and brought it back here But it's still possible. He's caught it here because it is spreading in Australia and we have had important cases into the Gold Coast. Who knows yet? He's probably going to be okay. I'm not sure what ag he is but he's pretty fit the. I'm not sure but people on the set because they're no they're no context. You'RE GONNA have to do with isolated famine. I googled it before he sixty three sixty three child and the child so the World Health Organization's now calling a pandemic. They've kind of come out on that. Does that change anything for us? No it's just a name. It doesn't change anything for anybody. We called it out a couple of weeks ago and it's been a pandemic for quite some time and who was late to the party as they often are. Let's talk about common respiratory illnesses? Because this is something that we hear. It makes people at higher risk of complications. What about something like Asmaa? Well as smart if you get a lung infection chest infection you've got asthma. Asthma can make things worse but in other words the lung infection can bring on a bad asthma attack and your and your your compromise because of the asthma and therefore if you've got asthma and it's purely treated and you know it's pretty treated if you're sucking on Veselin or the blue puffer so beautiful too much you know two or three times a day if you're using your blue puffer that suggests that you're not under control if you're waking up during the night. Coughing wake up in the morning coughing. You go for a run and you coffin you. We's those that's unacceptable. You really want to get your aspirin to good shape. And that means you go to go on a preventative and one of these inhaled steroids to get your lungs into the best shape possible. So should you get covered? Nineteen you not going to get an asthma attack on top. Does asthma make you more? Susceptible to covered. Nineteen or to the SARS cultivars. I don't think anybody knows it's unlikely it's more of the nineteen is going.

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You

This Podcast Will Kill You

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"dr norman swan" Discussed on This Podcast Will Kill You

"Right. I decided that I was gonna have to drink the bacteria myself. I thought I would just be having no symptoms for a few years after which I would have an ulcer and then Hallelujah. It'd be proven actually, I was very shy about this experiment. I didn't tell anyone not even my wife or Robin until afterwards. I asked my boss in gastroenterology Ian Hislop to do an industry for me, one day as he put the scope down me. He was saying berry, I'm not gonna ask why I'm doing this. And from around the tubing gritted out, just take the biopsy. So he took some biopsies from me and they were all clear Novak Titu, then I infected myself with bacteria that I'd cultured from a patient who did not actually have Alzheimer's, just indigestion and gastritis. I was able to radically his infection with some antibiotics. So Alrighty, I knew that I could if necessary take a treatment, which worked on this bug. I had some safety features built in I thought I drink the bacteria and. I, I was okay. But instead of being perfectly well, and having a silent infection after about five days, I started having vomiting attacks typically at dawn, I would wake up run to the toilet and vomit. And it was a clear liquid as, if you had drunk pint of water regurgitated, it straight back, not only that there was no acid in it. I remembered from my medical student days that if you have a meal where you drink so much beer that it's coming back up straightaway. It doesn't have any acid in it. I knew there was something unusual about vomiting and not having acid. And this is just one experiment on yourself. And you say, am I imagining this until I had another biopsy? I couldn't know for certain that I had the bacteria finally after ten days, I had the biopsy had another endoscopy and the bacteria were everywhere, in the lining of my stomach. There were absolute millions of the white cells that we call plus cells polymorphic, there was no acid being produced by my stomach. I was very uncomfortable without indus-, copy gagging and throwing up, but I'd proven that the bacteria could infect a healthy person. And cause guests rightous I'd proven Robbins disease. Really good on. I love that one. The words from the man himself air Marshall. So that was from an interview conducted by Dr Norman swan in two thousand eight for the Australian academy of science. Sarah didn't read it in an Australian accent. I'm not everyone will forgive you. They'll be thankful.

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