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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Rush Limbaugh Show

The Rush Limbaugh Show

07:24 min | 4 d ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Rush Limbaugh Show

"Number two clay travis buck sexton show for shade. All of you hanging out with us as we roll through the tuesday edition of the program. We are joined now by dr mccarey. Who is Who is a big time. i would say analysts of cova data. He's at johns hopkins. Got a recent book. The price we pay. What broke america's healthcare and how to fix it and i'm reading today wall street journal op. Ed page cova confusion at the cdc and doctor you right. I want to read this paragraph for our audience. You right that. Israel published data that showed with seven hundred thousand people included. Natural immunity was twenty seven times more effective than vaccinated immunity in preventing symptomatic of cova vid. Thank you for joining us. Dr. why has america been so bad at producing our own data and why have we avoided talking very often about natural immunity in general in your mind. Welcome to be with you guys. Thanks for having me i. I'm not sure why we have not been able to produce data. We've got fifty seven billion dollars at the nih and cdc and about thirty thousand employees. I don't know what they're doing to be honest with you. I don't know if they're browsing through. The office depot catalogs or getting things. Notarized in their lunch break i. It's inexplicable that all the good. Data's coming out of israel. The only cost randomized controlled. Trial of masks. Looking at different types of mass came out of bangladesh. Where the united states of america. Why are we getting blindsided by overwhelming. Data that natural nudity is twenty seven times more effective when our public health officials have been parroting the opposite they had it backwards dr macbook. I saw dr couch -i last week. I mean dr pfau chief seems to be on. Tv every five minutes. I didn't know this was actually an official role at the nih niaid or whatever. It is But docker vouch is constantly out there spreading cheese. He was finally asked in a way that i hadn't seen before about natural immunity and khanna said a version of. Yeah that's interesting. We'll look into that. How is it possible that were eighteen months into this pandemic and they don't have i mean. Is it fair to say that. They just don't view this as a priority. Well it interfered with the political edict to vaccinate every american. And when you had anything that got in the way of that edict. It became marginalized downplay by our public health leaders. It and there are a lot of things out there that said. Hey wait a minute The second dose in kids is causing heart. Complications doesn't matter they still gotta get vaccinated. So we have seen a lot of things like that sort of interfere with the political agenda and remember. They're an old school group. Docks the people calling all the shots with cogan. It's a very small group of very old doctors and they they have group. Thank i be on with us. Stock macari and for all the work. You're doing and johns hopkins. Okay so we got that. That's probably the number one question natural immunity in your mind when you look at europe which is doing in many countries a pretty good job of acknowledging natural immunity when joe biden is coming out and saying hey i'm going to tip mandate federal vaccinations. Let's league outside the legality of whether that's possible there's a discussion about the vaccinated and the unvaccinated aren't we overlooking tens of millions and potentially a hundred million or more people including people like buck and myself who have already had covert and recovered from it as if we don't exist shouldn't this be an important part of the discussion about how our nation response to cove well. Ignoring natural nearly has hurt the credibility of public health. Because we really want to encourage. I wanna encourage. Most doctors want encourage all adults who have not had the infection to get vaccinated and to do it quickly and that message got really hurt by all this dishonesty around natural immunity ignoring it blowing it off So that was a big setback. And i think part of the issue right now. Is that They are coming around way too late. It's sad because to be honest with you. Tens of thousands of americans died december through april when we were rationing are limited vaccine supply. And we were giving it to people with natural. Munity should have had them step is grand point. The hypothesis hurt a lot of people. Were speaking do dr marty mccarey. He's a professor at johns hopkins university school of medicine. Great piece in the wall street journal today Yesterday rather cova confusion at the cdc an eloquent version of what. I've been saying all the time. Which is that. The cdc is a bureaucratic monstrosity and as a former federal government employees. I know bureaucratic monstrosity. When i see one doc. I wanna know if you've seen this piece at the Published in the atlantic. Where they they looked at all the different Hospitalizations starting from january to june of this year and the piece comes away with and it was by is why i believe we. We had klay Earlier on the show remember was either new york magazine. I think it's the same guy we did magazine. He wrote but But dr mccarey he saying that forty to forty five percent of covert hospitalizations under the period studied. Which went as i said to june of this year where people who were either in the hospital for non covert related reasons or for very mild illness. Do you do you by that. I mean this people have been saying all along the hospitalization numbers. Don't there's something funky going on doesn't add up. Could that really be happy. I mean if someone goes into a hospital in april of this year For cancer screening and they test positive for coverted. Does that go as a co that hospitalization sometimes so depends on the hospital and california Had a county. I sort of do it wrong. They were counting everybody who just tested positive for covert which by. It's very easy to test positive for cove with pr test. It'll pick up one dead virus particle so they revived in this california county alameda county. They revise the real numbers down by twenty five percent when they looked into the cases. We are seeing hospital. Icu's overrun and those are real. I talked to doctors out there with the hospitalization numbers the probably inflated and what what about the what about the The numbers of those who are in the icu who are vaccinated versus not vaccinated. Are we getting really good data on that. I think we are but the actu- actually doing is when they're saying people are in there who have been vaccinated. Some of those are just incidental and some pear staying. They've been vaccinated and they really haven't so really. Almost everybody in the hospital with kobe and very sick is an unvaccinated adults..

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

02:18 min | 2 months ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

"Now congressman. I advance the proposition in the washington. Post yesterday. The military ought to require vaccinations for the virus of every member in uniform including every government employees. Did oh the national guard. I don't know if that's come up before haski yet. But i am concerned not about the dealt or even the epsilon variant but variants down the road that might be vaccine evading and even more very lynch and target young people etc. Has that been discussed. What do you think about that mandate because the military when you were marine. I'm sure they didn't ask for your permission to give vaccines. It has been discussed by the chairman. Adam smith and i believe if memory serves he sympathetic to your argument. I'm not there yet. upset couldn't be persuaded. I just i. I certainly think the vaccine should be readily available for every active duty service member in reservists. Who wants to get it but for me to be convinced that a twenty two year old in the prime of his health needs to be mandated to get the vaccine. I've just not there right now. But it's certainly something that's being debated on the armed services committee and certainly we don't want the delta variant to sweep through the armed services find his way on an aircraft carrier a fight his way onto a destroyer and make combat ineffective the already stressed naval force. We have out there at something. We absolutely need to be on guard against. I myself am vaccinated. I think the vaccine is a remarkable technology. I think it's a remarkable accomplishment of the trump administration. That's my choice That's the choice. My wife and i made a together. We feel very comfortable and safe with the whole thing. I've done my best to promote it. But at the end of the day. I get hesitant win. For example the left suggests we need to vaccinating children in schools. I thought dr. Marty mccarey made a very persuasive argument wall street journal this week. That the data just aren't there to suggest we need to now. I know that's a different issue. Hugh than the military being the accident. I don't want complete those two arguments. But i have a little bit of hesitancy when we start to talk about mandates for the vaccine at the same time i wanted to everything possible to promote the vaccine which again i think is a technology. That's not just gonna help us now. But it's going to unlock a ton of subsequent scientific

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Should Military Members Have a Vaccine Mandate?

The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

02:18 min | 2 months ago

Should Military Members Have a Vaccine Mandate?

"Now congressman. I advance the proposition in the washington. Post yesterday. The military ought to require vaccinations for the virus of every member in uniform including every government employees. Did oh the national guard. I don't know if that's come up before haski yet. But i am concerned not about the dealt or even the epsilon variant but variants down the road that might be vaccine evading and even more very lynch and target young people etc. Has that been discussed. What do you think about that mandate because the military when you were marine. I'm sure they didn't ask for your permission to give vaccines. It has been discussed by the chairman. Adam smith and i believe if memory serves he sympathetic to your argument. I'm not there yet. upset couldn't be persuaded. I just i. I certainly think the vaccine should be readily available for every active duty service member in reservists. Who wants to get it but for me to be convinced that a twenty two year old in the prime of his health needs to be mandated to get the vaccine. I've just not there right now. But it's certainly something that's being debated on the armed services committee and certainly we don't want the delta variant to sweep through the armed services find his way on an aircraft carrier a fight his way onto a destroyer and make combat ineffective the already stressed naval force. We have out there at something. We absolutely need to be on guard against. I myself am vaccinated. I think the vaccine is a remarkable technology. I think it's a remarkable accomplishment of the trump administration. That's my choice That's the choice. My wife and i made a together. We feel very comfortable and safe with the whole thing. I've done my best to promote it. But at the end of the day. I get hesitant win. For example the left suggests we need to vaccinating children in schools. I thought dr. Marty mccarey made a very persuasive argument wall street journal this week. That the data just aren't there to suggest we need to now. I know that's a different issue. Hugh than the military being the accident. I don't want complete those two arguments. But i have a little bit of hesitancy when we start to talk about mandates for the vaccine at the same time i wanted to everything possible to promote the vaccine which again i think is a technology. That's not just gonna help us now. But it's going to unlock a ton of subsequent scientific

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on Mike Gallagher Podcast

Mike Gallagher Podcast

02:43 min | 3 months ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on Mike Gallagher Podcast

"That's why we talked to the eight and ten years after right so we might not trust the guy talknet how he just got out. Because they gave me clemency because he was part of a prison programs to ten years later. These guys are breaking down breaking down about the story of their fatherless-ness and also breaking down about the joy. They felt coming in contact with god. All of them have the same story at a certain point at the time. They hit their early thirties. They went god. If you're real. I don't wanna do this anymore. I'm tired i'm tired. I want something new and they also met people in that prison who had been chains by god and they seem to change in their behavior. They'd seen the change in what happened to them when they got out because they get to communicate. What's going on in the streets. And they wanted that change. They were hungry for it and then the key was when they got out of the prison. There was manny mill meeting them at the gate and then taking them from their old neighborhoods building a life in a new neighborhood surrounding it with good people surrounding them with skills so they they could make an input prison and in good bible study program so they could surround themselves but believers than gangsters. And it's just simple right but but what's beautiful about. The film is that there's something we can all do from giving money like your audience does fit by mitch film and handing it to someone who doesn't have a father and thinks their life is hopeless. What are some kid down the street. Who's got behavioral problems in school. And we all know why. He has the behavioral problems in school nine hundred ten times. It's because the kids don't have a dad. Eighty five percent of kids in juvie eighty five percent. Mike don't fathers. I've got away for you to see the movie to get the movie to distribute the movie to people who will be dramatically impacted by go to salem now dot com as leash ed by a copy or copies for anyone you know who could be impacted by this story or maybe most of all if they doubt the power of god to be able to change lives go to salem now dot com salem now dot com you are going to really really be profoundly impacted by the stretch where my father lee habib executive producer. Keep fighting the good fight. Nice to catch up with you. My friend thank. You might be here on the mike gallagher. Show let's go from fatherless-ness and hope to the hope about covid with a common chance voice that you've probably seen on tv many times. Dr marty mccarey coming up..

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on Ron Paul Liberty Report

Ron Paul Liberty Report

05:55 min | 4 months ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on Ron Paul Liberty Report

"There are a lot of individuals who go along with it but The this camp comes from dr marty mccarey and i think we've the longest published in the wall street journal. I mean he's mainstream but he he Was concentrating and this article on on natural immunity. Which is a big deal. So you know And i guess they were making some on this. And i think we've mentioned this already Passed a program that who The world health organization. Well you know we are clarify this so we're going to change the definition of hurt immunity because herd immunity. That i think we'll be showing here is that Is that with her immunity. There's things are so much better off. But they don't it. Handicaps you know testing and selling stephens stilling medications and and getting booster shots and all this and this the whole point. You know if you've had disease and you've have immunity. Why are you sending people through this. You're gonna have to. You're going to have to get your passport anyway. We still hear the talk. It makes it sound like a passport. Then the disgusting thing is when governments back off a little bit. The businessman comes in. Yeah and they have social pressures on why they have to do something socially and they go along with it. And they're they're willing to to penalize their customers pull maybe the wake up but we're going to do our best to wake him and trying to wake him up he talking about the customers you know. My family was in california for a funeral. Unfortunately they flew back on south west. And i've flown south west for years. They used to be the happiest airline remember. They were always seeing. What can we do for you and they were on there and they were yelling at my mother-in-law screaming eighty year old woman on a plane. Put your mask on between bites. You know she's trying to have a couple of peanuts and they just hovering over her screaming at her and talk about a power trip. I don't know why they put up with that abuse of their other customers to paying customers. It's crazy but the macari stuff is interesting because Here's a quote that he that i saw this. I thought you would. I know that you would like but mccurry said he said. Please ignore the cdc guidance live a normal life. And then he said if you're not accented and you haven't had the infection yeah you should be careful but here's what he said. Mike macari criticized quote the most slow reactionary political..

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on People's Pharmacy

People's Pharmacy

02:40 min | 6 months ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on People's Pharmacy

"Ticket on an airline travel site and there's no prices and the airline said. Oh we we have to charge you after the flight. We just don't know if there's going to be turbulence any pilot may have to bill and code more. Rv us and you know this. It'd be absurd. You get a surprise bill for coca-cola it'd be absurd right it would feed price gouging and you can set rules to say. You can't overcharge someone for a surprise bill for a coke on a plane or you can create competitive markets. We had nutrition labels promoted in public health. We took it to the policy makers as a public health community and guess what the food industry said. You can't do this. Prices are going to serve food. Prices are gonna go hi. We'll have massive hunger in the us a worse than the hunger crisis will lose jobs. We'll have to fire people you know. It's horrible for the economy. It'll be the downfall of western civilization if you put nutrition labels on food. None of it happened okay. None of that happened instead. We created a competitive marketplace around ingredients. And we let the market work. And that's what we are starting to do now in healthcare. We're seeing leaders in that market. You listening to dr marty mccarey author of the price. We pay what broke american healthcare and how to fix it. He's a surgical oncologist and professor at the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health. Dr mccarey has published over two hundred fifty scientific articles on the redesign of healthcare. He's been elected to the national academy of medicine and is deter and chief of med page. Today after the break just what is a billing quality score. What's the ratio of doctors to employees in the billing department of an average hospital what her pharmacy benefit managers. And how do they fit into the picture on drug prices. Are there practical ways to lower. The cost of prescription drugs do prescription ads on television. Drive you crazy. You're listening to the people's pharmacy. With joe and terry freidan. Welcome back to the people's pharmacy. I'm.

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on People's Pharmacy

People's Pharmacy

03:05 min | 6 months ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on People's Pharmacy

"We prepared for infections. We cannot treat with current medications. Is there anything. Individuals can do to address this global challenge. Our guest is dr marty mccarey. He practices surgical g johns hopkins hospital and is a professor of health policy and management at the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health. His most recent book the price we pay received the twenty twenty business book of the year award. Dr carey is a fellow of the national academy of medicine and editor in chief of med page. Today dr mccarey. I wonder you mentioned that. Healthcare professionals and the rest of us could take steps now to actually address this slow motion but very frightening second pandemic what steps would be most effective well. First of all there is massive overuse of antibiotics that drives this mutation and drives the resistance and we should just stop using antibiotics. when they're not indicated that simple step alone would have a massive benefit in public health. And by the way it's not just in humans it's an animal's it's in the food. We eat a lot of the antibiotics produced are used in agriculture. If you look at all the drugs manufactured that are antibiotics. Up to seventy to eighty percent of them have gone to animals. So if we talk about our purchasing decisions okay if we talk about preventing this pandemic through our choices at the grocery store and asking questions at restaurants that push them to use better sourcing of their food we can actually move markets just like we have with reducing added sugar and getting away from a bad foods so these are important steps. I encourage everyone to do. We're doing Doing it on a macro level. A group called pr g which has a. It's a tremendous group. They're putting pressure on some of these chain restaurants to shift and it's working. They've gotten some of these big places to actually change where they source their food. It's remarkable what they've been able to do when people speak up. I mean things happen. I mean did you know that. For example pinera and chipotle. We have actually made commitments now to avoid antibiotics in their foods. I mean these are chain restaurants with large customer bases that a decision at their level at the corporate level has tremendous implications strides made at mcdonald's place that we've been hammering and public health for their processed food. The they're taking steps now to get rid of all antibiotics their food small steps but we're seeing movement and it's driven by people and their choices..

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on People's Pharmacy

People's Pharmacy

02:25 min | 6 months ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on People's Pharmacy

"The thing about exponential change is that things are fine until suddenly they're not and you can't go back and say okay now we're going to implement things that take several months or to have an effect in the midst of exponential growth. And right now we we have. We are in the midst of that uptake that inclined towards exponential growth with. That's why i think this is a warning call to everybody deca mccarey. Why hasn't this problem of antimicrobial resistance received more attention well. It's a small market size for the pharmaceutical companies. When you talk about the government pre purchasing a covid vaccine heck they all jump. They're giddy and other rushing to the table. They want in in other about five companies in the original operation warp speed and novak's pounded on the door and they'd let him in and they pre purchased. You know lots of drugs from these companies and it's good. It's not a knock. But where is the enthusiasm around drugs that have a small market size. Okay when you talk about a thousand deaths from carbon pet resistant. Bacteria that is a small market right. We're not talking about him. Nizing one hundred fifty million people were talking about a thousand deaths year and unfortunately and tragically these small market sizes have left these. you know. Money focused pharma companies disinterested when addressing the problem for now and by the time they develop interest when it becomes a bigger blown up pandemic. I'm afraid that's going to be too late. You're listening to dr. Marty mccarey professor at the johns hopkins bloomberg school of public health. He's been elected to the national academy of medicine and is editor in chief of med page. Today his most recent book is the price we pay what broke american healthcare and how to fix it after the break. We'll talk about the most effective steps. We can take now to fight. The pandemic of antibiotic resistance. What you put on. Your plate could have an impact on the future effectiveness of antibiotics. How would you change your shopping habits. What lessons can we take from. Covert nineteen to apply to.

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on 790 KABC

790 KABC

04:28 min | 7 months ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on 790 KABC

"On in the hour, will be joined by Dr Marty McCarey from Johns Hopkins University. He believes that cove it is going to go on by April, but essentially, we're all going back to regular life by April, which would just be fantastic. Since as you have checked your calendar, you will have noticed that we are now in late February, so not all that long left gang. Not all that long left. We'll get to that with Dr Macari in short order. First, we have to talk about the actual policy being promulgated by the Biden administration. I know that it's tempting to cover all of the stupid stories of the day, like Ted Cruz went to Cancun. We talked about that, but Let's be real. What Biden is about to promulgate is much, much more impactful to your life than any politician jetting to Cancun. Well, his state is raising That's bad optics. What Biden is about the bushes, horrifyingly bad policy, so let's begin with his immigration plan. According to Eugene Robinson, it's the best immigration plan now. Gene Robinson is a leftist columnist over at the Washington Post. Is the bike administration's blueprint for immigration reform is already facing criticism as being far too ambitious to have a prayer of getting through Congress. But the bold plan has one thing in its favor. It actually tries to deal with reality, so You know, whenever somebody and left uses the word bold, get ready, Yang, Bold is just Code word for this crap is gonna cost you so much money is gonna make her head explode. President Biden proposed a pathway to citizenship for all of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants now in the country who follow the rules and stay out of trouble. For all of them, by the way. Estimate that there are only 11 million. Undocumented immigrants making illegal immigrants in the country right now that Zeman is way low way low when Alison then I'll bet you It's more like 15 to 20 million people who are in the country illegally. Right now, now, the way they should be treated is we should just ask you the same way we would if you were entering the country legally. Are you a benefit to the country, or are you not? Are you going to provide economic incentive? Have you been a good citizen? Have you contributed to your community. And if you have got to stay, and if not, you have to go. Don't see why you should be held to a different standard. Just cause you're already here. Mean across the border without actually going through a process is you should go to the back of the line. You should have to wait. And then we should assess whether you ought to be a citizen. You shouldn't be automatically granted citizenship just because our government has been too remiss and not actually doing anything about your violation of law. Says Eugene Robinson, rather than nibble at the edges of the problem. Biden call's for a global solution analogous to the sweeping amnesty. Ronald Reagan engineered in 1986, which by those terrible policy was supposed to be the last amnesty. Ha ha ha ha! Whatever you think about the new president and his team, says Eugene Robinson. No one can accuse them of thinking small. Nobody's accusing them of thinking small. Accusing them of being small minded in many ways, but thinking small now these are big and crazy ideas. Republicans are going to ridicule. The idea will likely declared dead on arrival, but they would subject to more modest proposal to the exact same treatment. There's also my favorite thing from from the left is I'm gonna propose something totally crazy, and you're gonna call it crazy. If I propose something, not totally crazy would still call it crazy. Somebody proposed this crazy thing Or how about this? How about you actually propose something That's not crazy, And then we discuss it. Could we do that? Biden is right to start by demanding the reforms the country actually needs rather than the sort of tentative opening bid that leaves the situation of most resident non citizens unaddressed. The fact is the undocumented are not going away there. Nothing to self deport a Senator Mitt Romney famously suggested when he was running for president in 2012. That actually is not true. There are a lot of people who are illegally. In the United States, but you didn't leave during the economic downturn. From 2000 to 2016. There were a bunch of people who left the country. It, says Eugene Robinson. Since the Reagan amnesty. The way our political system has dealt with the undocumented could be described with apologies to Daniel Patrick Moynihan is maligning neglect. President Obama did give some measure of security to almost 800,000 migrants were brought here without papers, his Children beyond that the undocumented have been treated more like political props and living breathing human beings, much less as neighbors. Well, I mean, that's really not true. The vast majority of illegal immigrants have not been deported. They've been in the country. Their kids going public schools and taking advantage of taxpayer dollars. Some of them pay taxes, then you do not. So the notion that illegal immigrants been horribly mistreated. Is not true. Some illegal immigrants. You certainly have been mistreated. But the notion that broadly speaking illegal immigrant have been mistreated is obviously not true. Otherwise they would presumably self deport. As Eugene Robinson says they're not going to So what exactly is going to be in this fighting proposal? 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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Rush Limbaugh Show

The Rush Limbaugh Show

03:42 min | 1 year ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Rush Limbaugh Show

"Is If I getting this thirty percent of the American people like nine million. Americans. believe that everybody who gets covert one, thousand, nine, hundred s from it. That's what it was, and it's something like nine million Americans have died. That's right. Thirty thirty percent equals nine, million American. A huge I think it's over half the American people think very close to it. I'd have to look up that story, but the bottom line is the way the virus has been treated in the media the way it's been reported on. The pictures. Of Boarded? Up. Cities and towns. The. d- everything that's happened. The economic downturns result the the blue states cities in the blue states states that have been kept shut down because of the virus artificially on purpose to affect the economy of this country and to make. Sluggish to prevent its full full-fledged return for political reasons but. However. You see this The impression that a lot of Americans have is that this virus is a death sentence. But it isn't. But nevertheless it you still have the way it's reported. The way we are. Altering every aspect of American life because of it, you almost have to excuse people thinking that it's a death sentence. Because it is being treated as such. It's being reported as such day in and day out. Pretty much every public health. Suggestion. Admonition. Local city or state requirement is Rudin. Or based on the fact that if you contract this virus. You are in huge deep big trouble. Everybody is according to the way it's reported so you can't. Blame people in a way for thinking that. But here is. I I watch Dr Marty mccarey today he's He's a brilliant. Cancer specialist at Johns Hopkins. And he is a regular on Fox News. And he has been talking sense about the. The virus and the way it's Way Impacts various people and. What to do to prevent it to keep from getting he's really, really good. And he said today that. melania trump. From all of the best kept medical data that we have since the inception of this Myers. In the United States that she has a ninety nine point nine percent chance of a full recovery. And then he said that president trump. Has. A ninety nine percent chance of full recovery. That took me aback because I have been under the belief. That president trump as somebody who's over sixty five. by the way, he's not obese. They're trying to say that he's obese overweight. But. He's not not obese but regardless, they say that he's got demographic. Characteristics..

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on Newt's World

Newt's World

01:31 min | 1 year ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on Newt's World

"Now I'll answer your questions. Guaranteed Minnesota, said I just listened to your podcast Gerard. Robinson would love to hear more from him. Solutions as to how we fix what is. This feeling. Gerard was so knowledgeable. We've asked him to come back so the very near future. You're going to hear exactly the podcast you're asking for. Paul from Florida. Why has the media adjusted its reporting of corona virus just new cases. Since March. The media has not done the fact that job you giving breakouts, age brackets where sets I have to say that I am highly confused by the reporting system. I think that we're not being done in Britain. Service I think that their standard for what the reportings very good I personally keep track of how many people attention care and how many people die I. I, don't even look at hospitalization because in a number of places now if you come posited, even though you've had no symptoms at all pushing hospital for a day, and that makes no sense at all I, wish they would get to a simple clear consistent way of reporting and I think this is an area where the Center for Disease Control has really done terrible terrible. Thank you to my guests Dr Marty mccarey you can meet more. Reforms needed our healthcare system and the price food..

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on Newt's World

Newt's World

02:55 min | 1 year ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on Newt's World

"Were President, trump has a huge announcement for his top supporters will be celebrating the two thousand twenty Republican National Convention this summer and he wants you to enter for a chance to join him at the convention. If you win, the team will cover the flight hotel and give you VIP passes for yourself in a guest. All you have to do is text registered to eight zero to two today for your chance to meet President trump at the convention again. That's R. S. T.. E., R. Two Eight, eight, zero to two to enter to win this once in a lifetime opportunity to be his special guest paid for by Donald, J trump for President Inc.. Hey Jada Pinkett Smith here. Bringing your favorite red tabletop episodes to podcast I want to introduce you to the most important women in my life, my mom gammy. He never wanted you to be in that situation. Like not date will at all, and then we have my daughter. Willow I'm going to be like my ancestors interest. Do what I need to do. Listen to the Red Table, talk podcast presented by Facebook Watch and Westbrook audio on the iheartradio, APP apple, podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast harvesters new. Virus recording from all see. You may notice a difference in audio quality. was sort of neutral. One in five. Americans now has medical debt collections and rising healthcare costs today threaten every small business in America. In his recent book, the price we pay what broke American healthcare and how to fix it? Dr Marty mccarey, one of the nation's leading healthcare experts travels across a Merck and details why healthcare has become a bubble. Drawing from on the ground stores, his research and his on experience who price we pay paints, a vivid picture of price gouging middlemen in a series of Lucy money games in need of a serious shakeup. Dr mccarey shows how so much healthcare spending goes to things that have nothing to do with how and what you can do about it. Dr mccarey challenges the medical establishment. Remember Medicines Noble, herrick. Caring for people and they are on the. Price we pay offers a road map for everyday Americans and business leaders. He had a better deal in their health care and profiles, the disruptors who are innovating medical care. The Movement to restore medicine to its mission is alive and well emission that can rebuild public trust and save our country from the crushing costs about. As someone who has long been an advocate for health, care, reform and price-match where. I'm pleased to welcome my guest. After Marty mccarey is a surgical oncologist specializing in minimally invasive surgery and a professor of health, policy and management. At the Johns Hopkins University School Munson. He speaks nationally on disruptive innovation and health.

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

The Ben Shapiro Show

07:46 min | 1 year ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

"The media have decided. They're really gonNA cover in large scale, Texas Florida in Arizona. California just is not going to get the same coverage, so California would. You experienced a massive resurgence of covid nineteen right now in California, which was locked down heavily still lockdown heavily like you can't go to a restaurant California right now. If you if you try to go to restaurant, California they basically just reopened in the last couple of weeks. Many re many restaurants still have not fully reopened because they can't actually fulfill all of the basic prerequisites for reopening. Major businesses are still not open in places like Los Angeles Los Angeles very slow to come around on this thing. Over the past few weeks, really since the protests, you started to see L. A. opened up a lot more and California open up a lot more, and it is perfectly obvious that everybody was basically abiding by the state home until these massive protests broke out and the entire media infrastructure decided that you remun-, to Covid if you went out to a major protests and then precisely two weeks later, exactly's everybody suspected. You start to see this massive uptick in places like California now. Everyone one one blend that on Memorial Day but Memorial Day happened may twenty fifth protests started may twenty six, so it's really really difficult to suggest that it was just memorial. Day, and not you know the obvious problem of hundreds of thousands of people out in the streets. In America's major cities to California's been really hard hit in this resurgence, their states like like Idaho. That have been very hard. Hard hit in the resurgence Washington state, which as I say starter state for this thing has been very hard hit in the resurgence, but the media have decided. They're only going to cover Abbott into Santa's that they're gonNA cover. Greg Abbott in Texas. Texas has now paused. Reopening as hospitals have been inundated with Gordon explosion of covid nineteen cases, officials in Texas yesterday reported forty seven deaths, nearly six thousand infections, a quote, grim, new daily record, now worth Noting York. York state yesterday, still recorded I believe more deaths than that New York is supposed to be in the downswing of this thing, and they are, but even in their downswing their record that's on daily basis than I believe either Texas or Florida, if not more than absolutely in the same ballpark, the governor of Texas hit the brakes on reopening his state Thursday as hospitals were inundated with an explosion of covid nineteen cases according to NBC News last thing we wanted to. To go backwards closed down Businesses Governor Greg Abbott, said in a statement temporary pause will help our state heraldic spread, until we can safely enter the next phase of opening our state for Business Abbott, urged all Texans to do their part slow the spread of Covid, nineteen by wearing a mask, washing their hands regularly social distancing from others, he said, the more we all follow these guidelines safer. Our state will be the more. We can open up Texas for business. Now, that makes perfect sense again. I've been saying for a long time. If you want the economy to be reopened, then put on a mass. Seriously slow the spread of the thing. Make sure the elderly aren't being held. The question is what good policy looks like here. Good, here's. What good policy looks like to me and I've been saying this literally for months protect the elderly and the vulnerable, particularly the nursing homes or a disproportionate number of that's taking place where mask if you are in a public place where this thing is easily transmitted. And socially distance if you can. That's pretty much all I can do. Those are all the things. There are no more things than that. You know and and limit giant public gatherings, obviously public gatherings where these things spread, more people tend to take off the masks, and where by by the with masks don't reduce risk zero wearing a surgical mask. You might reduce the risk by thirty forty percents as Dr Marty mccarey from from Johns Hopkins University said you're not going to reduce the risk by one hundred percent, but a lot of people reducing it by thirty forty percent is definitely a good thing Texas medical. Center in Houston has reported. All of its ICU beds are now occupied, so Houston has been particularly hard hit. The United States a record number of nuke rotavirus cases in a single day forty, five, thousand, five, hundred, Fifty, seven, reported on Wednesday according to a tally by NBC News. Southern and Western states like Arizona and Florida the began aggressively reopening around Memorial Day, announcing staggering spikes that make clear the deadly virus, showing no signs of going away now this the media's coverage by starts to come in okay, the reality is the state started opening before Memorial Day. A lot of these states started opening like mid-may. And they didn't see spike. In fact sort of puzzled. Why don't we seen a spike? And the answer was that people were going about their business, but they were being responsible in how they went about their business. In fact it I'M GONNA. Look it up right now. When did when did Florida reopening? Flow I. WanNa actually see the calendar. So the original. The original reopening. Let's see. Florida reopened certain businesses through much of the state. May Fourth Maye fourth? Starting may fourth restaurants were allowed to offer outdoor seating with six foot spaces between started. Their reopening may fourth nothing for month. Nothing for month, then massive protests suddenly resurgence. Don't tell me it was morial day when you start reopening at the beginning of May and there are other states that did to Georgia started reopening being a. No massive resurgence giant protest massive resurgence. They're going to try and put it on the reopening as opposed to like people who are attending restaurants and sitting six from each other. As opposed to giant protests where people are up on each other, yelling and spitting, and by the way, the aliens bidding is in is the key thing here right? One of the chief vectors of the spread of covid nineteen is projection. This is why churches have been a place where people are getting very sick, because if you go to a church and everybody's singing together when you sing, new, aerosolize a lot of the particles in your body while you're spit, and then it goes in the air. The most people can get infected. But again the media are focusing only on Florida and Arizona. The trend blame Republicans for this is the bottom line. Buried way down in the article is California, which was among the first to put in place, a statewide lockdown has also been reporting record numbers of new cases, many of them young people and there was no evidence that the black lives matter protests that swept the nation after the police killing of George Floyd or fuelling sudden, because you're going to have to explain California, which has been completely locked down, but allowed massive protests is also seeing significant spike. Where was the other giant public activity did not exist I'm from La. No one was going out of their house. Then la was locked down during curfew. And then shockingly the cases rise. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex as our said. It's important for the American people to know. This is a localised situation. It's not everywhere in certain places particularly. Scott GOTTLIEB FORMER FDA commissioner, who said we opened reopened against the backdrop of a lot of persistence in those states inevitable the cases. We're going to go up. I think they've gone up more than most people expected at certainly been surprised by the acceleration in the cases as well. I, think most of us were. In Texas, Dr Pays almost the medical director of critical medicine at Houston Methodist Hospital System said they were managing for now, but quote if the trajectory is what was last days when we literally had a tripling of our cases, we can't do that for a couple of weeks at all said, this isn't good. The explosion of patients all across that explosion has to slow down one of the things that's happening. People are assuming that all the ICU beds are available for covid nineteen covid nineteen represents about a quarter of the of the number of people in the ICU people on the issue for a number, but like you have a heart attack during the ICU covid nineteen. Meanwhile in New York. Andrew Cuomo insist he was about enforcing in two week quarantine Ken Governors of new. Jersey and Connecticut want all visitors from current rotavirus hotspots states like Texas Florida and Alabama to follow. And this is where we get into the real hardcore media bias. As it were in a second. We're going to the Washington Post trying to blame Sean Hannity for the uptick in covid nineteen and we're also going to hear the media try and tout governor. Andrew Cuomo and Gretchen Whitmer Michigan of the worst governors in America. If you were a governor, they're really only a few things you can do. One is bar large gatherings to is. You can have a statewide mask mandate, but it's very difficult to enforce. Basically you're relying the compliance of the American people. Is All you really do? And three is you protect your nursing homes? Whitmer and Cuomo both shipped old people's nineteen back into nursing homes, and they killed like a huge percentage of the old people in nursing homes in their state, and they're being touted by the media,.

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

The Ben Shapiro Show

05:50 min | 1 year ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

"Dial Pound Two Hundred Fifty Keyword Ben Shapiro. Okay so let us begin with the first religious. The first sort of religious. Cry from the left that will just cry is that apparently a vaccine has been developed for Covid nineteen and that vaccine systemic anti-racism right anti woke is is not a mind. Virus woke as Ms. the vaccine. The vaccine was in our hearts along guys. It was in our hearts all along so all the people who are protesting and they were saying I want to go back to my job because I've lost my livelihood, and I want my kids to go back to school because they need to be in school. They're losing months off of their educational career here. All the people I WANNA go back to church because the center of my life is the church. Those people were told. Over and over, and over again they were killing. Grandmother were told over and over again. You cannot go back to these places. Because if you do you will, you will be responsible for spreading the virus. You will kill hundreds of thousands of Americans. If you do this thing over the weekend, literally millions of Americans were out in the streets, millions of them crowding on top of each other shouting screaming Dr Marty. mccarey from Johns Hopkins University told me last. Friday there is there. It is hard to be a better vector for virus, spread and sorts of images that we saw over the weekend. You said he shoots shots. Philadelphia Street and streets. With People Know Masks if they mask removing them from time to time, so they can shout slogans. Right up on top of each other right next to each other people have said the churches are great vector for virus transmission, because you're in a small area with a lot of people, singing, or yet or yelling or shouting. We're talking okay. The these protests are a great virus transmission vector. They are, but not according to health experts are health. Experts say it is more important that you protest than that. You try to minimize the spread of covid nineteen, which is amazing, because for months we destroyed forty million jobs in this economy, forty million jobs, which is tens of millions of lives destroyed by the way we destroyed those jobs and the attendant lives that are dependent on those. Those jobs including lots of children, we destroyed all of those because we were so convinced that preventing the spread of Covid nineteen was that important now as long as you're shouting slogans, it's totally fine. Doctor Tom Fernandez was the former director under Barack, Obama he tweeted out the threat to Cova? Control from protesting outside is tiny, compared to the threat to covert control created when governments act in ways that lose community trust. People can protest peacefully and work together to Stop Colvin. Violins harms public health. Okay, let's straight about this. According to the latest Washington Post Statistics and they keep updating the numbers. There were grand total fifteen black men shot Horn Horn armed last year we've had. Ten thousand deaths in the United States in the last three, and a half months alone from covid nineteen, so I'm GonNa, go no on. It's more of stomach threat to public health. The police broadly speaking. than the than the protests were yesterday. In fact, I can say that with an extraordinary degree of certainty that that is not the case so long as you believe. The covid nineteen is actually dangerous dangerous which I do, but apparently the CDC experts do not examined enough to remember one time for Dan was on national TV, suggesting the Rhonda's. Everybody because we're onto, Santa's wasn't shutting the beaches. The Jacksonville which by the way killed nobody. So it turns out. That woke. Him. Is the virus. It's the the vaccine virus. It's amazing. We should give Colin Kaepernick to Nobel Peace, prize, for apparently ending racism, because kneeling as we will see ends racism, and not only should we give him the Nobel Peace Prize. We should give him the Nobel prize in biology, because it turns out that kneeling also stops covid nineteen. It's incredible. What can't kneeling. Do It -able? There are pictures of healthcare workers you remember all those pictures from the antilock down protests of health worker standing outside arms crossed very stern mask over face. You're you're ruining our lives. You're making our lives more difficult. Stay home to keep us safe. Healthcare workers were out there, taking a knee in the middle of protests in New York City yesterday. Okay so let's either. They were lying then or they lying now. There's two about it. either. They were lying about the danger of the virus. In which case the lockdown was completely ridiculous, and there was no reason for it or alternatively there rightly cautious about the virus, and they're lying now when they suggest that it's perfectly safe to go outside, or at least the risk of going outside and and protesting on mass about racism is less than the risk of covid nineteen. All this looks like politically motivated trash, not that not the protests themselves. The idea that you can discard all concerned about covid nineteen because you like the message of the protest. The way government actors have been saying this sort of stuff. It's First Amendment volative, obviously violet of the First Amendment is a content based restriction. There were literally people saying you cannot liken anti down protests to protests on behalf of George, Floyd, or against the police or any of the rest of us. That's not how protesting works under the First Amendment guys. You can't do that. You can't say we're shutting down. The protests 'cause. We don't like this message, but we do like this message so therefore the threat doesn't exist. Any longer didn't sanity. And by the way, if you're suggesting that all these protests are deeply necessary, and these protests are deeply important. I have some questions about dancing the mock Brennan with protesters. I do. I do okay, so we were told you can't be in hospital with your grandmother as she dies because you might come out and spread covid nineteen to others. We were told you can't go to church and have a funeral service for grandma after she dies, but we can have national guards people doing the Macarena in the streets. With people who are protesting about police brutality deeply necessary deeply important work by the National Guard right here with the protesters very very important stuff. This is what we pay our tax dollars for I'm very excited about all of this. Now again. You WanNA show that you're anti police brutality. It seems to me that everybody's anti police brutality is funny. I spoke to a friend of mine who is a police officer at a Meh me in a major city. And, he was on the front lines yesterday. He's been on the front lines for twelve days straight. No breaks doing fourteen hour shifts, twelve fourteen hour shifts, and his partner has been attacked with the brick got a concussion. He's been attacked with the knife..

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

The Ben Shapiro Show

02:20 min | 1 year ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

"It does not seem like there is on the grounds of man for testing that is not appearing so much as a national demand for testing? Because there is this again slogan out there. The testing in tracing are the solution to this thing. When you're providing more testing people are actually taking advantage of that is not a problem with supply. That is a problem with demand. The federal government is doing. Its best to fill that in. But what they're really shows is that we are not experiencing helming of the healthcare system. We are not experiencing overwhelming numbers of cases. And this is driving sort of change in the rhetoric that you're seeing from Democrats for a while there. The rhetoric was. We gotta shut down until we have vaccine by the way. Another piece of good news. Madonna is now announcing that they've had positive interim phase one data for their new vaccine. They're saying that their new tests on the vaccine are successful. They're moving forward so there are many vaccines. Apparently that are now in preclinical result testing. And they've seen some very positive results they're trying to figure out exactly what the dosage should be. But the bottom line is that this is very good. News as Scott Gottlieb says encouraging news. Today on modern technology will eventually let us reduce the Cova threaten reclaim normal times early. Data shows. It generates robust immune reaction. It's does dependent getting those right ISKY. Madonna is now testing a new fifty milligram dose. We must establish or microbiome. Microgram dose rather we must establish regulatory measures for antibody titre clinical measures of benefit service clear benchmarks of success for studies right now. Fda requires neutralizing antibody titre of at least one to one hundred and sixty for convalescent. Serum donors is that the level for a vaccine. There's some suggestion the vaccines could protect us from bad symptoms of color but not totally protect us from getting the infection. Sort of like a flu shot. Okay well I think that we would all for that right. If this was reduced to the danger of the flu I think we would all be like okay done done. Okay and good. News is that seems to be the direction we are moving so all of this is good news. All this good news. Is that the summer. Seems to be slowing. The spread is Dr Marty. Mccarey of Johns Hopkins. Told me last week. It seems as though the testing shortages are are actually not supremely material in most major states at this point. It seems like it's really more problem of people being aware that they can get a test or people wanting to get a test and it is that they are not available which is good news and this is changing a lot of the rhetoric politically surrounding real. We'll get to that in just one second first. Let's talk about how you're staying home all day and you've been looking around your place. Let's pretty good accents. Feels Kinda Dingy? Why look at your window coverings? I know you never do that. Look your.

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

The Ben Shapiro Show

04:20 min | 1 year ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Ben Shapiro Show

"This is the largest spending the history of the United States and Democrat after Democrat Democrat Democrat. He's saying we need more. We need more now. Listen if you can make the case for why the more is going to shore up the businesses that are going to love to hear it but if this is just you prioritizing your garbage priorities that you couldn't get past in a normal time and you're doing it under cover of night in order to take advantage of a crisis that's you being a crap person. It's a bad crisis and so your immediate responses. But what if we could get a green new deal? What if we could do that and I? It's universal call from the Democrats. Shocker shocker shocker Kirsten Gillibrand senator from your says we need to spend more. We literally just spent two trillion dollars the entire normal budget of the United States in a in a year which one trillion dollar deficit is four trillion dollars. We just took that and multiply it by half added to the budget for a basically a two to three month period. That's what we're talking about here. We all hope and pray and in all likelihood will be two to three months. We had on yesterday. Dr Marty mccarey from Johns Hopkins University. He says this thing is going to Wayne by. May Okay so for two to three months. We're talking about this fine K. But you're talking about making a permanent. We need to spend more and more and more whites. Almost as though you're attempting to confirm your political priors by referring to a crisis that should be temporary and that we should. We should be looking to get out of not to exacerbate. Here's Kristen Gillibrand. We need to spend more. This bill is very helpful. But it's just the first step. This is going to be a very long-term Crisis. It's going to take months and months to get out of it and frankly. I don't think our economy is going to return to where it was for a long time more than months perhaps years and so the truth is our job is to do triage Right now we needed to get real dollars into hands of real people. This is not intended to make all states whole. It couldn't possibly do that. But it's intended to get us through the next four weeks and hopefully the next four months in terms of the coverage of employees the easiest thing to do as a politician by the way is to shout that you need more money always to shout the you need more money. The question is how do you draw the balance between what we actually need right now and running up that credit card forever because guess what you wanted to press the economy? You want to ensure that we actually can't do any of the things that we need to do as an economy WANNA raise taxes dramatically. Because here's here's the reality at a certain point here we're GONNA have to pay back bonds at a certain point here you're going to have to raise taxes in order to pay for this stuff and sink the economy in the process. So you're taking a short term hit right now. But turning it into a long-term hit a permanent hit forever two trillion dollars in spending right now and watching. Democrats claim that they need to spend thirty trillion bucks because of the two trillion right Joe Biden. Who's barely sentient human? Being at this point I'm not sure that he's alive. Joe Biden yesterday. He said well in the next in the next round of Negoti. Maybe they'll be green new deal in the next round like another green new deal okay. Alexandra Cortez Green. New Deal was set to cost. What was it ninety trillion dollars over the next thirty years or something something insane in something completely crazy and Joe. Biden's like well maybe we'll do agreement really everybody begging for solar panels right now last. I checked bridges. Wants to go back to work. Everybody wants to be healthy and go back to work. Those would be the two priorities. And Joe. Biden's what if we could have a windmill. Would you know like when I was a boy back in the nineteen thirties? Now I used to have one of those little. There's a little windmill but like one of those blow on it. It spins it spins like pretty like a kaleidoscope go Joe Biden. We're going to have an opportunity. I believe in the next round here to use the Maya Green Economy Migraine deal or a to be able to generate both economic growth at consistent with the kind of infusion of monies we need into to the system to keep it going one of the ways to make sure. These jobs are available. That may get lost or hurt in. The meantime is to provide the kind of jobs that are prevailing wages where people are making forty five fifty dollars an hour plus benefits by building new infrastructure. Remember that time that the Obama Administration tried this shovel ready jobs and then created zero jobs. Remember that movie that time. They tried this with green jobs member. They'd green jobs aren't Evangi. Remember they created no jobs. Van Jones admitted they actually peg down one green new job? That had been created. Remember that so now Joe. Biden's doing the same thing on the back of this job. I don't WanNa you know. Maybe we'll do like calm. Uras eminem maybe like student. Loan forgiveness like ZANU.

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Why The Cost Of Air Ambulances Is Rising

NPR's Business Story of the Day

05:08 min | 1 year ago

Why The Cost Of Air Ambulances Is Rising

"Two thousand and two the. US Government introduced a new policy that allow private players to enter the air ambulance industry. This decision brought more competition into the market yet. The cost of an air ambulance trip sword. So why do the normal rules of supply and demand not apply. Here's Cardiff Garcia and Rachel Cohn from our daily Economics podcast the indicator from planet. Money to understand how air ambulance services became so expensive. You actually have to go back to a time when they they were cheaper a time when hospitals were the largest provider of the service ambulances really grew out of emergency rooms that decided. Hey we won't have a way to get people here faster. They were owned by hospitals. They were part of the hospital system. They were on the master hospital bill and often covered by insurance because it was a hospital service. So that is Dr Marty mccarey. He's a surgeon and professor of Health Policy and management at Johns Hopkins University. He says that for a long time hospitals were not making money from their air ambulances. They provided that service is because they could start charging patients. Once they got to the hospitals there were virtually actually no for profit providers companies that were trying to make a profit but in two thousand and two this began to change. The government rolled out a new policy. That change just the amount of money that area meals providers could make from transporting Medicare and Medicaid patients. But basically what you need to know. Is that the new policy made it more lucrative for independent independent ambulance providers that groups other than hospitals to offer the service and what this did was to incentivize outside group's thinking of investing in air ambulances. Silence is because now they were assured more money for transporting Medicare and Medicaid patients but also they could provide these services for this whole other group of patients. People not not covered by Medicare and Medicaid in other words people who had private insurance the result is that the number of air ambulances in the US nearly doubled in the vast majority today are owned by for profit providers and so here is where the normal dynamics of supply and demand start to go skew. They start to get a little weird see in a normal. Oh market that big increase in supply. The supply of air ambulance providers would usually mean a good thing for consumers because consumers now have more choice means more competition competition between those providers in usually means cheaper prices for consumers but in the area relents market. That's not what happens. That's because customers in in this market can't shop around and compare prices and services in an emergency situation. The customer doesn't choose which air ambulance provider to call the ritual. You spoke to a a couple who experienced this firsthand so the story takes place back in two thousand eight back then. This man named David Jones Scott into a terrible accident on a New Jersey highway. He was driving with his girlfriend at the time now. His wife Juliet when their car flipped over and tumbled at sixty five miles an hour onto the highway shoulder. First responders honors arrived at the scene and called an ambulance. David was flown out. I so I remember that hearing the ambulance land I was completely out of the car. Getting entreated to Juliette was actually still trapped in the car so emergency services had to cut her out which took awhile and so they ended up calling second air ambulance a few hours later eventually vincent. They made a full recovery but a nasty surprise awaited them exactly so they were actually going over their bills for their treatment together when they realized that they were charged. Different announce for their area blitz transports had a note written contemporaneous. Like it's funny just looking at the the no it says You know seventeen hundred for me and thirteen thousand for Juliette. Seventeen hundred for David in thirteen thousand dollars for Juliette even even though they were transported the exact same distance from the same accident site to the same hospital. I mean there was one difference aside from the price and that's who flew them so David was flown by a public provider but Juliet was flown by a for profit company. So this big increase in supply. It doesn't bring down the price for people getting air transported so the medium price for example charged by an air ambulance for a helicopter transport in the United States. That is now more than thirty six thousand dollars if you ask the Association of Air Medical Services About this there the industry group that represents air ambulances. They suggest that ambulances have become more expensive to provide but Dr mccarey he sees things differently so he says that the main reason these companies are charging so much for their services is because they can. There's nothing to stop them and so quickly. This second back industry grew of private equity companies. Buying up these air ambulances from hospitals managing the services services and price gouging patients going around the Master Hospital Bill. This has created a situation where people have gotten into a lot of debt and are straining straining their finances just to be able to pay off their hefty air ambulance Bill Rachel Code Cardiff Garcia N._p._R.. News.

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"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Indicator from Planet Money

The Indicator from Planet Money

09:45 min | 1 year ago

"dr marty mccarey" Discussed on The Indicator from Planet Money

"I'm Rachel Cohn. How are Ya High Cardiac? How are you good good so you were for a little while a producer on the indicator I was is yeah? You're now helping out at one of our favorite podcasts rival podcast but you still love it called reply. All you've come back because you've brought us this really intriguing story about air ambulances. Yeah Right. Where does the story begin so the story takes place back in two thousand and eight back then? This man named David Jones got into a terrible the accident on a New Jersey highway. He was driving with his girlfriend at the time now. His wife Juliet when their car flipped over and tumbled at sixty five miles an hour onto onto the highway shoulder so badly injured. I take it really badly injured. So what happened. was actually first responders called an ambulance. That's like the helicopter that comes to the side of the highway highway when you're in a terrible bad traffic and you can't get them out any other way. They call exactly so David was flown out. I so I remember that hearing the ambulance unplanned completely out of the car getting. It's actually still trapped in the car so emergency services had to cut her out which took awhile and so they ended up calling a second air ambulance a few hours later. You said that eventually they made a full recovery. Yeah but there was a nasty surprise involves here. I tell us about that exactly so they were actually going over their bills for their treatment together when they realized that they were charged. Different amounts for their area blitz transports like very different amounts had at a note written Com contemporaneous. Lee that like I. It's funny just looking at the no it says Seventeen hundred for me and thirteen thousand for Juliette. Seventeen hundred for David and thirteen thousand dollars for Juliette even though they were transported the exact same distance since from the same accident site to the same hospital. Yeah I mean there was one difference aside from the price and that's who flew them so David was flown by public provider fighter but Juliet was flown by a for profit company. Okay and that is the topic of today's show. This is from planet money. Everybody I'm Carlos Garcia and I'm Rachel Cohn yes on today's show we are talking about ambulances. This part of the American healthcare industry where prices have skyrocketed and where the normal laws of supply and demand. Don't don't seem to apply a support for this podcast and the following message come from salesforce. A customer relationship management solution committed to helping you deliver the personalized experiences that customers want salesforce bringing companies and customers together visit salesforce dot com slash. Learn more to understand how Aaron ruined services became so expensive you actually have to go go back to a time when they were cheaper a time when hospitals were the largest provider of the service air ambulances really grew out of emergency rooms that decided. Hey we have a way to get people here faster. They were owned by hospitals. They were part of the hospital system. They were on the master hospital bill and often covered covered by insurance because it was a hospital service. So that is Dr Marty mccarey. He's a surgeon and professor of Health Policy and management at Johns Hopkins University. Dr Doc mccarey wrote about the air ambulance industry in a book. You recently published called the price. We pay appropriately enough. Actually he says that for a long time hospitals roles were not making money from their ambulances in fact some hospitals were even providing air transport at a loss air ambulances traditionally have not been a real real revenue center for hospitals because they make money on the patients once they arrive at the hospital from all the services provided and so throughout the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties. And that was the business model. Hospitals were not trying to make money on the air transport itself. They provided that services because they start charging patients once they got to who the hospitals so hospitals provided air ambulances for the majority of air transports and so although there were some government groups and independent private. Have IT companies who were providing this service. In addition to hospitals there were virtually no for profit providers companies that were trying to make a profit but in two thousand and two. This began to change that year. The government rolled out a new policy. That changed the amount of money that area means providers could make from transporting Medicare and Medicaid patients. Basically what you need to know. Is that the new policy made it more lucrative for independent ambulance providers that's groups other than hospitals to offer the service so under the previous system. Independent providers typically made less money for transporting Medicare and Medicaid patients than hospital providers but under the new system all all providers were paid at the same rates. And what this did was to incentivize outside group's thinking of investing in air ambulances. Because now they were assured more money for transporting Medicare and Medicaid patients but also they could now provide these services for this whole other group of patients. People not covered by Medicare and Medicaid aid. Other words people who had private insurance and private companies and private equity firms in particular realized if those patients could be billed independently of the hospital an outside of their insurance network there was virtually no limit to what they could be charged and so quickly this second back industry grew of private equity companies buying these air ambulances from hospitals managing the services and price gouging patients going around the Master Hospital Bill. The result is that the number of Aaron balances in the US nearly doubled in the vast majority today are owned by for profit providers. And so here here is where the normal dynamics of supply and demand start to go askew they start to get a little weird see in a normal market that big increase in supply. The supply of air ambulance providers would usually mean a good thing for consumers because consumers have more choice means more competition between those providers and usually means it's cheaper prices for consumers but in the area milli- market. That's not what happens. That's because customers in this market can't shop around and compare prices and services says in an emergency situation. The customer doesn't choose which air ambulance provider to call. I mean the customer might even be unconscious rate the first responders or hospital workers. There's are usually who call an ambulance so this big increase in supply. It doesn't bring down the price for people getting air transported instead the exact opposite happen. Prices have gone on way up so the medium price for example charged by an air ambulance for a helicopter transport in the United States. That is now more than thirty. Six thousand dollars dollars an air methods which is the name of the largest air ambulance provider. It went from charging an average price of thirteen thousand dollars per air transport in two thousand seven in two charging fifty thousand dollars in two thousand sixteen now to be clear. These are the prices that fall on people with private insurance. If you get into an accident and you're on on Medicare or Medicaid you're bill will be covered by the government but if you're one of the millions of people with private insurance you could be stuck with a very expensive bill. I mean many private insurance companies only pay ambulance providers roughly the same amount that the government pays them which is like between three to five thousand dollars and that it means that the remainder of the bill maybe tens of thousands of dollars is left up to you to pay. I think the natural question there Rachel is. How did this happen? Why did the price go up so much? Even though all these new air ambulance providers got into the business well if you ask the Association of Air Medical Services About this and we you did there the industry group that represents ambulances. They suggest that Aaron balances have become more expensive to provide. They say there's been an increase in the number of Medicare patients as well as an increase in the number of rural hospitals that have closed which means air ambulances have to travel a longer distances and operate in less populous areas which which brings greater costs but Dr mccarey he sees things differently so he says that the main reason these companies are charging so much for their services is because they can. There's nothing to stop them. Not the patients who in that moment are at their most vulnerable and not even insurance companies who typically would act as the interface between patients and the provider seat unlike costlo's independent private providers of air. Ambulances usually do not have pre negotiated rates with insurance companies. The Government Accountability Office did a major study recently where they looked at over. Twenty Thousand Air Ambulance transports that took place in two thousand seventeen and they found that more than two thirds of those transports they were not in the patient's insurance network in other words. Those patients were not covered for their transports. And when that's the case in other words when a patient is out out of network the only thing that constrains the price that they can be charged by an ambulance company is what they believe. The accident victim will be able to pay they send a bill for ten million million dollars. A penny of it will never be paid. But if they set the bill at just above what's considered payable then they'll be a mass effort for it to try to pay these bills and in fact that's exactly what we see. Yeah we see a situation where people might have to go into a lot of debt and really strain their finances just to. I would pay off that bill. Rachel thanks so much for bringing us. This super interesting story Cardiff deserted indicator was produced by Lena Sons. Scary fact check out. Lewis our editors Patty Hirsch in indicator is a production of N._p._R...

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"You won't miss a single episode I want you to listen in on a very important conversation I had with Dr Marty mccarey I know you're really going to enjoy it well Dr Marty mccarey thank you so much for being my guest on parenting great kids right to be with you make your book the price we pay what okay American healthcare and how to fix it is really an extraordinary book and I think it's a book that every American needs to read because health care is such a big important issue for parents just for everybody out there and there's so much we don't understand and I love that your book explains the complexity of the healthcare issues in your book you describe numerous areas of medical care that are driving up costs and so I'm going to try to simplify outlying physicians who are inflating costs hospitals drug companies and insurance companies would you mind going through each of those and just sort of describe how how each of these is driving up medical costs sure well first of all it's great to be with you again Megan keep up the great work educating people health promotion I'm a huge fan so thank you thank you so much I watched the movie the big short I don't know if you've seen the I've seen it yeah I thought that was incredible didn't you yes yes it was very eye opening eye opening and you know from mcdermot storytellers standpoint you know as somebody who thinks a lot about messaging and educating people and creating healthcare literacy I couldn't believe that they took such a boring and wonky conflict subject as financial industry and banking yeah it is exciting and consumable and relatable with everyday stories yes so I've I feel that we all need healthcare literacy let's face it nobody wants to read a health policy book but we can tell that message through a series of stories that talk about these creepy just problems of price gouging that I believe as a doctor and I'm sure you would you would agree is now eroding the public trust in the medical profession right these money absolutely and it's sick and also to tell the story of the disrupters you know who who's bypassing Mrs awesome you would be amazed H- you'd be amazed at how the innovators in healthcare are often men and women of faith they're people with a deep past should there there who firmly believed that the bureaucracy has become its own monster and we need to bypass it I couldn't tell you which I loved writing this book I mean Keith Smith Oklahoma Surgery Center decides to do a clear honest pricing new for any operation and guess what people are flocking there from Canada and Japan and around the world and around the united state they're flying to Oklahoma City why are people going to Oklahoma City because they are hungry for honesty and pricing they want medical care and they want good billing care and in writing this book I've realized billing quality is medical quality financial toxicity is a medical complication and taking care of a patient means taking care of the entire person right and so this incredible the heritage that you and I are privileged to be part of you know profession where people will trust us to put a knife to their skin within a minute of meeting us or tell us secrets they may never have told their own loved one for years just because you're the doctor that's an incredible heritage it is and it's an incredible honor to be in a situation and that's what we love about medicine is that I walk into a room you walk into a room with a patient and you cut through all all of the nonsense and you say what is wrong how can I help what's going on your life and there's no small talk you just an you know the confidence they put a new and I take that very very seriously and I know you do as well and but when we see that that relationship is sort of the trust and I've been at this thirty years and I've seen over the past ten years there's this real sense where patients have a big mistrust of doctors they think that we're aspiring to harm them I'm thinking of immunizations which you won't get out on you know thinking I want to immunize our kids 'cause I'm GonNa make a lot of money will that's not true and I thought how did you get to that place I went to medical school to help you and care for you so it's it's really a hard position to be as a physician where's the medical care system has become so corrupt that people are looking at us now and saying I don't trust you anymore and that strikes at the heart of every position most hospitals when they were built they were built by churches and they had a charter dedicated van and to serve the second injured regardless of one's quote unquote race creed or ability to pay many were funded by philanthropists members of the community lake and they operated in the red and it didn't matter because the community would always protect a hospital and for these titles nowadays to shake people down harass them engage in what I call predatory billing in the book price we pay Yeah I'm taking vantage of people when they're vulnerable I mean people come to us when they're in need of help my patients as you gastrointestinal cancers Sergeant John Thomas when people come to see me there's only one emotion that's dominating their minds they're terrified right and to be able to comfort someone take care of them that's an honor and to have somebody who we have no connection to who lives in a separate building harass them you know a study just came out showing that almost half of women with stage four breast cancer in the United States are being harassed by medical debt collectors and you know you go into that a lot in your book and I will be honest as a physician I learned so much from your book because I didn't realize how frequently and how Wantonly Hospitals Dr Koss up just with no rhyme season and I think a lot of the public out there you know we see these enormous bills come in for a visit to the emergency room you know for for hardly anything a cold or whatever and I didn't even know how out of line those costs were so can you just sort of in a sentence talk about how bad this problem with hospitals gouging patients with their costas sure yeah and you know I should say most hospitals are fair and governed by good people the doctors who work in often have no idea how predatory the billing can be sometimes the hospital leaders themselves don't even know I mean I remember for the book the price we pay showing a hospital CEO bringing a bill before I would show it to the CEO I'd say my friend went to the emergency room was there for an hour got an IV was given this anti nausea medication and was discharged guest how much hospital charged an hospital CEO would cringe and say I don't know five thousand dollars I thinking he was guessing high and I Joan Bill for fifteen thousand dollars and then he would immediately be embarrassed and cancel the bill right because this monster that we've created this billing throughput industrial complex in medicine puts the military industrial complex to shame it's got a mind of its own and so what's happening right now is people are claiming back the process patients are asking for transparency doctors are offering free price menus and we're seeing tremendous movement on the Policy Front at President Trump signed an executive order on price transparency in quality transparency very recently I that's getting implemented over the next year people are fed up everyday Americans are getting hammered with these medical bills so it's time for us to claim the healthcare profession back talk about the middle men and you know a lot of people have strong opinions about the healthcare but in the price we pay basically as from the research concluded that there's two fundamental problems number one pricing failures that enable this mass growth of the middlemen industry and number two inappropriate care which I know Houston in your own practice as well been trying to do health promotion around what's appropriate for kids for for patients can you elaborate on those two tissue our audience yep imagine a travel website when you go to get a flight from Detroit to fill it out you know prices would show up and instead the airlines would bill you afterwards and airlines might argue. Oh Meg we can't give you ace because we just we don't know if there's going to be a delay or the Pilin could pilot could experience turbulence or you might consume beverage we simply can't give you a price for the flight we would say come on give me a break. If stories loomed around the country of airlines gouging in people after their flights and sending him surprise bills for four hundred dollars for a carry on bag we would say this market is incompetent inefficient non-competitive in feeding the stakeholders by allowing them to profiteer from the lack of transparency yet in healthcare that's exactly what we have in January of last year healthcare became the largest business in the United States I'm not sure that thing to be proud of now we're not exporting product were doing things to our own people ten years ago we physicians prescribed to like four billion prescriptions it was almost the equivalent of one opioid pill per American and last year it went up to five billion okay disease really double in the last ten years now we have a crisis of appropriateness of opioid crisis is just one manifestation combat so pricing failures in our crisis of appropriateness a really these to root causes of our health care system it's not what the able news networks in the politicians tell you is the problem with how care don't listen to these echo chambers at the underlying root problem and stop listening to the politicians who really are just talking about different ways to fund the broken help examine about how exactly yeah parents I hope you're enjoying my conversation with Dr Marty mccarey we need to take a quick break but don't go anywhere we'll be right back with more of my conversation friends. 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