21 Burst results for "Dr Jane"
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"Can you guys answer my. Would you rather yes k. Back would you rather number one. Would you rather never be able to listen to music ever again or never be able to watch a movie ever again. We've done this one before. And here's the tricky part of this music and movies. Yep so you'd have to like so for those i mean. How do you eliminate music for movies. You wouldn't i. I would argue that. The music you get to listen to in movies is not nearly the same as just listening to music regular because it's usually either part of the score of the movie or it's like there's a part of a song during a montage or something. It's such a tease in terms of listening to. It's not really listening to music. It's not like putting out. Yeah it's not like friends song really but it but you'd still get quite a fixed and i'm thinking about some of the great to my favorite movies like breakfast club loss. Was those that great music that you'll get trust the mohicans. See i would say in. This might be a bullshit answer. But i would say i would get rid of movies because they're so much great. Tv now now in bullshit. I think that should probably go hand in hand with them movie. I think the older i get. I aspire to listen to more music and watch more of a music and and avoid screens. More general yeah so i think my Now i value movies more. Probably but i aspire to value music more in my older age. He does that make sense. Does it do. I would dare to move especially like you said if you could watch some tv. Like if i could watch seinfeld impractical jokers in dr. Jane goodall documentaries exactly and know movies. I would definitely but like what music can do to you like. How can i know movies can move. You obviously inspire you but there's something different about what music to the saul and it's a much more personal experience for me for me personally but Olympic like what. Jane said about watching that tarzan for the first time inside it. It doesn't require nearly as much of your imagination. Right in a weird way i think music is just more important For me yeah. And like i've had near spiritual if not spirit full full ritual moments for music. The sasquatch festival god. Yeah listening to. I've never had. I've loved movers. I love movie and been so like stirred stirred by them but music. Does something different number. Two the second would you rather. Would you rather be the star in the biggest longest running hit. Tv show of all time but never be able to be in a movie again or would you rather be distorted. The biggest grossing movie of all time it becomes a classic that people watch the next thirty years but never be able to appear in another row in front of the camera ever again. That's easy for the first one. I one for sure. Because i it's just ego choosing the second one would just be ego exactly exactly like i just wanna be celebrated for one thing is accurate. That's a no brainer. But i don't get to do the thing i love to do because then you get the tv show. You would probably get tired of being tv. Show for fifteen years. Sometimes because friend of mine was just talking about how much they love law and order in view. Sbu yeah and. I thought about. And how chris malaysia chris maloney in mach- car get a and i thought both very good actors but i was wondering if they are sick of doing that. Show chris maloney left the show for a while and did other things. But like i would suspect. They're not because they're still doing it. And i think at this point it's up to them. Of course that's true. They don't need to you know when you do a show you have to sign what is six year contracts usually. Yeah but beyond that you get to renegotiate and have more control over. I guess i'm just especially a show like that it's called procedural show like that. It's like you're wired a little family. A little i need more spice. Yes but like look not to shit on that. You're just different different. Like i don't know if you could as much as layer that they're doing as much as you love chimpanzees. I don't if you could sit for seven or eight months in the wild waiting for them to you. So when i say i wanna be your disciple like. I'm sure that would be in. That kind of work would would be involved in being her. Disciple is icon. Its commitment like the way she. She's committed early and put you to work for a while. Like dude with daniel larusso. Can you tell him been watch over. What season are you on three. Or how many seasons are for their four. There's four i wanna watch it. It's good it's really fun. I know i've been seeing like little moments. That during the stall jerk dodge vibe i like nostalgia vibes back to not again. Thanks for getting me through this year. By being who you guys are take care. Show dean shook or maybe shock Shucks probably hear that a lot. I wonder what she hears. More is my question to joe dean shock. If she hears shots are jodi noti. I've a feeling if i guess. Put money on it. I would guess years as long as it's in. Fact pronounced. Joe dean jacques. I would guess she gets Joe dean jody more. Maybe or maybe even what the shock or actually lately except she alleged ali partners had a real risk verge. Yeah you'll both up to talk. Partners had a resurgence years. She has yeah but now i think it might be sh shook a Remember that Crook took me all night long up. Yeah she likes that she might well. Thanks joe dean and Thanks to each other joe. Deans listening reading the odds. Are that thank you for writing in and freer very nice email and if you guys would like to write in our is life is short at wondering dot com and thank you again to our first dame. Hopefully not our last but Definitely our first and Certainly most christ like figure the brilliant doctor jan goodall the yes and and kind and so good for the world through so grateful that she graced us with her presence. I know that's like a. I don't know if i've ever used that so appropriately. She graced us. She shared her presence. Here brought grace to the show and her presence in the world brings grace to to the earth so thanks to her and If you want to check out what she China which is up to Such important things of roots and shoots and takura and the jane goodall institute continues to do Like she said it just takes two people to want to change things and get involved so thank you to her and to everyone. Listening talk next week could be dream.
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"Like then that is that. Is that offensive to christians Be it might be. It should not be i. Fi- hold her in the highest christ. Like christ jesus christ like yeah i still think you you know because at christ like someone's i don't think so i mean she is just i think what i believe you might start start to wade into insulting territory if you put her on par with christ right. Someone is christ. Like than i think are giving credit to christ and while so describing the goodness of someone i would follow her. I'd be a disciple. I be good almost like i really wanna do. More with that roots and shoots program. It seems like the most essential and you don't think it's a little selfish because you just want to play with monkeys. It is a little selfish. Part of it is that i'm sure but i'm not. I swear i'm not like i want to do stuff with the communities that she goes into. Hey do what i did. I know you want me to do it again. So push my luck. The communities that she goes. I would love. Just she's so inspiring. Okay i know you don't have to sell me on her. Yeah i go on a trip with her is one of my favorite moments was when she This is selfish when she was like. Please call me chain. And then you proceeded colored dr goodall again i did. Yeah i did just wants oh i. It was hard because the respect that i have. Yeah jane had jane then when you ask her if she's able to zoom gems and she was like no yeah and then and then she said that in theory you could. Yeah and i was like the gia. Jane has anything to do with tarzan. That's that that was Surprise when she led her to movie that when she when she admitted that tarzan was the single thing that inspired her. Now go do what she did well in the manner. She says she was also very inspired. She cared so sweet. She carries a copy her copy as from childhood of Dr doolittle around with her. And i remember i was flipping through it and we had the same. I don't know if it's the same. It was the same of the same exact year but the similar enough that they had the same illustrations. I remembered them. I love that book. That is weird that her name. Is jane just coincidence. Rice energy unless you changed. I don't think change to the chimps. Maybe she liked tarzan even more. Because jane maybe drew her towards Maybe the book the boy which led and then you think about that naming a kid could be that influential in their la interesting. I wonder if it because that book was so in fact it was so instrumental and she was so important to her that she left the movie. How cool is that and then cool but like interesting that sh- because she was she cried because the image onscreen was so dissimilar to the one in her imagination of tarzan. And i re listening to it. I was like i was curious. I wish i had asked her. What her image. Sorry what her image of tarzan was you know. Who did he look like. If not johnny weissmuller she She mentioned robert redford and she was like. I don't even know people that robin bedford. But rob bradford is still alive. But it's funny to use him as an example of an actor who like kind of current. Now i know like him at least you knew of him but I and i'm sure they're pads at cross. 'cause they're both he does work. That's a good as well. Yeah maybe future guests to the show and be cool. Let's write a letter. Okay here we go. Here is a letter. This is from joe dean. Chill de jodi. Jodi judy jodi. Have you ever heard of the team. Have you spell it jay with a matter. Have you heard of any joe dean spelled anyway. No but i'm wondering pronouncing it wrong o. O. j. o. D. e. a. n. With our time j. o. D. e. a. n. Joe show dame shoot shook joe. Dane shuck name. Yeah coach joe. Dean is subject. Ed was my favorite show ever three exclamation points adjustment aggression. I just have to get this out of the way. I'm gonna fan girl from minute. I've loved you since ed now. It was my favorite show. Maybe of all time. I love unique concept of the show and the interpersonal relationships that the characters portrayed. I wish it would come netflix's or some other streaming service so i can watch it all over again. I'd like to see some of those episodes fun experience. You like to fan girl out like a fan girl over. Tom's and julie's performance. I wish it would come to netflix. It's also going. The distance is one of my favorite rom calms also. In fact i just watched it again last month. I also loved you on new girl on offense. This is great. this is great for me. I wish you roll would have lasted longer. Needless to say you can tell. That's really sweet. Jodi thank she said. Needless to say this is embarrassing for me. Which is why. I'm stumbling through it. I'm sorry needless to say you can tell him a big big fan. Thank you joe dean. I learned from listening to that. You had a podcast. I don't think the dax. I almost wrecked my car. I got so excited. Glad you didn't. I'm in the process of binge listening.
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"Yeah frigging in Yeah but she seems similar like she her podcast Hope cast think for reason because she seems very hopeful and oh jeff corwin to he still in the face of all this troubling news and information that he has he's still hopeful and positive and thinks that we can all make a difference and i admire her positively i. I wish i was less cynical. Because i feel like. Oh there's just not enough people like her in the world today to be able to make a difference if more people were like her. Than i genuinely believe i noted save this planet but then for all the people like her or even close to. Because who's really like her. Let's face it But even the people who admire her and have similar. You know. Lean that way. Thank you see. I would someone throws i heard zach often acas talking about this and comforted me to hear how much he hated this too. When you see somebody throw trash out the window. Something as simple as that like an act like that. Just throw something on the outside like. There's something so upsetting about that. I think i think there's some sort of equation between that how upsetting that is and the beauty that you can find in the jane goodall. I know it's even. I feel the same. You both have to dislike litterers but there is something i've always been a really bothered by the glitter. Some sort of deep and and it's and it's it's the exact opposite like you said of her when she she said when you borrow something. We're borrowing this earth and we borrow something you have to give it back In this case she thinks we should be giving it to the next generation but She said were stealing it. And that's how i feel about litterers able who feel entitled to this. My i've taken this. And i don't care about what's happening neck. Well she touched on this. We inherited it from our. We took it or borrowed borrowing from our parents generation. And that's why that little activist woodson the environmental reta greves winberg them. Kveta greater berg was not fancy She i think that's why her anger is sort of like justified because she seems to have a lot of day. She's kind of. She was an answer rather a question on jeopardy. The other night and katy kirk was guest hosting and someone started. This is Just reminded me of it and she. The contestants said Gr griffen berg and katie couric really shamed her for pronounced thunberg tune birds but will accept thunberg all really it was a really shameem on front of the show. Us hopefully listening to enberg. Oh i wish. I'd seen tat You were talking about hope. Like how can she hope. I'm thinking about her documentary now and she mentioned a lot in the context of hope and when we would talk i would ask her. I think i asked her that. Like how can you do. She mentioned roots and shoots a couple of times and and when you see the work that they do and when you see like the kids that are moved and inspired by dr. Jane goodall In the roots and shoots program it kind of makes sense how she is able to have this sort of hope because the next generation some of these kids exceptional and they've been and they're really like picking up the torch for her james work and it must be something that she herself is inspired by moved by because she talks about her own mortality a lot on in the documentary and she must be. There must be some sort of. There's gotta be an awareness of okay. My work is going to continue. And she believes so strongly in her work to the point which sacrifice so much on its behalf that she must be really comforting to know that these kids. These younger people are taking up. Maybe maybe that's what it comes down to then that if you believe in something enough like she does like jeff corwin does and like if you believe something is important enough than You must just be able to ignore any cynical urges that you might feel because it's like saving the planet and saving chimpanzees is is so important that you just have to like keep going forward and do whatever you can do to alleviate the problem you certainly can't dwell on solid cystic dwell on your own mortality. Too much like to like worry too much about your own existence ending and we were talking about that the other day i like you've been getting You feel the older you get. You feel you're still afraid of dying in like still don't want him but like you were less concerned about death. I would say that. Yeah i didn't it was it was interesting because your reason was well. Life becomes less slightly less enjoy enjoyable as your body shuts down. You can't process certain things as well. You can't do as much as you could. Your body doesn't feel as good as you have to them. And that occurred to me In the context of jane when she was talking about it was so sad. When she was talking about the being able to commune with the with the chimps and and i said well you must be dying to get back there. you know satish civil. It's not the same. I i can't you know. Climb she just can't do. It was a source of so much joy and happiness in her life. It is sad to. I was watching. An episode of cobra kai last night. And wait a minute. Sorry to. I thought like well. Perhaps there's a part of her that thinks because she does seem so spiritual especially about gumby in that maybe when she's when she's left this existence. Show be able to do that again. Maybe i thought that'd be cool. Yeah sorry you were well w well. Daniel returns to okinawa to into the village boiler Well you should be caught up. It's been out for a while and he realizes that this village that was so Untouched or not very touching. When he was a teenager is now full of its strip mall. And there's all these big corporations. They're really saddens them. And and that's just what's happening all over the world. How i'm surpri- good for you to compare jiang daniel larusso by the way also friends show. I know i like to tie things together. Well we are just so grateful to. I'm shocked she doesn't use emojis. Those were the funniest lightning rounds because she truly. I know a lot of people. Like i don't feign but she and i really believe that she does. I'm so glad you're an astronaut or favorite movie sequel. Was there would have been a very long pause. Just doesn't i know i can. I went through the. I did the math as quickly as i could. I was like there's no way even saying to her because he forget she's by the way she's so she's so beautiful in like there's something so en- djelic about her that you sort of she's like ageless that you forget. I forgot that she grew up during a time and in an a socio economic way that she just didn't absorb any of that stuff like movies or tv or she grew up in the forty during the war And i realized that. As i said like what move i forget what she also wasn't. Who's your favorite golden girl. She also when she talks about observing squirrels. Worms and these creatures is a kid. That's what she cared about. And that's what she still cares about. You know she's she's not someone who cares about things like movies and she really has like a suggestion Passion you know this is. I don't know how to say this about something. I don't know this might be weird but talking to her and at the end when i was like let me know. If there's any the i. I would follow her. You're like you're like If you need anything this kid. I please come on a trip with you and play with monkeys. Just to do the worksheet that she what she's doing is the most important thing for the world like disciple that i would. I would understand how people follow like jesus. She's a messiah like figure to me wo you just went next level. We'll think about it. i mean how. How does it get more in terms of a cause and in terms of how you connect with people and i don't know how it gets anymore..
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"You witnessed that behavior how did you did. You just audio recorded it. You would film them doing that. How did you record that. Well i didn't start with. I just recorded it my brain. That won't be making films to the geographic hugo camera record. Wow i'm i'm mostly because i think i love the sound of laughter the most how did you. How did you first discover that. Wh- do you recall your introduction to them laughing when they typically shabbir of course make sense and if you what is your favorite fruit. No fruit is something that you love fruit. I dunno i love mangoes really good mangoes and a really good. But we don't get really good bananas in america in europe but in africa where they have a village near us twenty five different kinds of banana. Some of those are very sweet I love theory. Well you know that very smelly taste what i've never had it. I will now per your recommendation. Try some duran. And i if you who would you want to play. I'm sure they are going to make one if they haven't already to play you an actress to play in in your bio pic. Wait if you add your thought about this. But i don't know that trump is. I don't have time to watch movies much. So i don't know people are when they say. Oh you just got to be joking. When i said that i wouldn't recognize robert redford or something like that and i said no because i don't well i know how much travel i know how you how much you work that makes sense to me. I doubt that. Yeah that makes it when you were a girl when you were growing up did you watch. Was that something you enjoy. It was during the war Have pages and we could knelt couldn't afford the cinema and saved up for take me. I think i was eleven and it was one of the first johnny weissmuller movies that so she saved up to take about fifteen minutes. I began to cry loudly. She had to take me out. Gibb with episode matter. Sympathetic wasn't tough. You see in those days when no tv so it was children deprived of that now so all the books i read. I had my own imaginary people. Do you prefer. I know you said you you've had dogs do prefer dogs or cats as pets all my teacher. When i was a child my teacher beautiful as a lab is. They're my favorites can see him a little bit. Is that your mom he is he was a. That is your mom. What was her name jane. Well house we'll stay mabini but she was known as van and van van. We nickname was myth. Myth that we named a chimp miffed What a great great trivia. And i'm so grateful to her and She just created the most beautiful person. I'm beyond grateful to you for your time and your your work Thank you well. Thank you to live really love talking to you. I hope we can meet in person. It would be an honor and jane. If there's anything i can do. I'm dying to go Work and see one of your roots and shoots places that you set up anything i can do to help. Spread your message because the most killed by the car sped. Kfi all helps a lot. Yes and And anybody else to say that you'd seen shoes anybody with a child can start routes and you don't have to be formal can just be two kids getting together and saying we want to change the world until they decide. What do we liked them to register so that we can share. But it doesn't cost you anything. Okay good to know we'll We'll talk about. It will continue to talk about it and I i will always be grateful to you for for this and all of your work. Well thank you very much love talking to you unless i say we must meet posters it.
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"From our children. When you go you pay back. We've been borrowing stealing but not too late to do something about it. That's what they were wrong on. That square roots and shoots began and what what emboldened you to push forward with that message. I mean how again. How did you not lose your hope. What encouraged you I know you talked about four points. but in that moment what was it that what what what was the best way to show people that hope was possible. Well it sleep again. When twelve high school students from eight schools in salaam capital of tanzania. They came to my house and they were concerned about all kinds of different problems. You know environmental but also social like the street children cruelty to spray dogs. They have different problems and anyway. I told him to go find friends. Who felt will say we had a meeting about thirty s approach and that's when routes to was born main message every single one of us makes an impact every single day of some sort and we decided that every group and At work in clubs or groups in different schools they would they would choose. We wouldn't tell them they would choose a Help people protect help. Animals predict help the environment and because they get to choose at you listen to them. They're empowered and they roll up their sleeves and they get out what passions about taking action if they choose to do that passionate deposited But he comes in. You will do this or you will do that wig that sometimes they just don't care doesn't come from within our in the eight countries with members from kindergarten university everything in between a normal adults forming groups now like the staff of the big corporation. Well that's the remarkable thing is that you were able to reach out to and and took a lot of flack for it Reaching out to big corporations that might have seemed like it was against the your interests to reach out to oil companies and But you're able to use those relationships to then of foster and promote the more important message a greater message How would you encourage people to do that. To reach out to those that they disagree with now and How is social media. Play a part in that. And how can it hinder that well. First of all. I wouldn't take money from old. Etoile companies notes one tests debate one. Let's actually trying to do it better. And the one. We started with conoco before it before it amalgamated with. What is it now phillips. It was very very forward thinking. I did take another oil company. That forward thinking they were unfortunately costal and They they didn't survive on their own but so basically i was afoot this opportunity to get money from them to start out sanctuary in congo. And so i thought it'll through. And i thought well you know i'm buying oil. I mean unpaying planes. 'cause our electric everything. So how hypocritical to pay money but refused.
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"And then i think it was six or seven Field sites across africa and so we decided to put together a conference to bring the chief researchers together for the first time may need to ask you know the chimp behavior differ in different. Environments is something like culture where behaviors passed from one generation to the next but we had a session on conservation and the session on conditions in secaucus lab that sort of thing and the shock exceeding the extent of deforestation in africa and chimpanzees being hunted for bushmeat and that sort of thing and then even worse really was seeing our closest living relatives. Who can live. There's in five foot by five foot cages in medical research ships. That was so awful worst of all. When i left that conference i was different. I just knew. I had to do something i had no idea what to do. I haven't a clue. But first of all i knew i wanted to help the lab chimps. I knew i had to go into a lab because you need to see with your own eyes to really talk being cleared. My pinkett was one of the hardest thing i've ever ever had to do. See these amazing beings and by five k. alone you describe It's very powerful in the documentary. You describe crying under your surgical mask. just weeping and one of the chimps. I think you say he's been there for fifteen years in isolated in this in this case for fifteen years reach reaches out in leipzig away. Works atten which probably made you cry even more anyway this long battle at many people joining but the run. No more American jobs now. It's incredible the way you've been able to reach people and you talk about you. Talk about that How how best to do activism And i thought this was especially in light of the way. A lot of people do it now on social media. There's so much anger there's so much division there's so much arguing Could you talk a little bit about what you've found to be the most productive way to To to be an activist and to really help these chimpanzees but also the people who live among them well. The lab situation was one where i just sat down and instead of being angry with the people doing that research i showed pictures of the gumby chimps talked about their behavior. Their personality came from people need to change from within africa. Well i got together. Some money and visited six different range. Countries were being studied my land a lot about what problems facing but at the same time i learned about the problems faced by so many of the african people you know the crippling poverty that lack of health and education they have good days of the land you in populations growing and then i flew over the tiny gumby national pakistani turkey five square kilometers and it had been part of this great equatorial forest belt when i arrived in nineteen sixty and it was the same in nineteen seventy then it began to change and when i flew a gumby and toward the end of eight nineteen eighty s. It was this tiny island of forest and all around as far as you could see back hills and that's when it hit me. These people too many of them vallance to support it too poor to buy food elsewhere. The farmland is overused an infertile. They are struggling to survive. We don't help them find ways making a living without destroying the bound by cutting the trees. The head groom of food have to cut the trees or make money from charcoal. So that's when the institute to carry take care to carry program began very holistic going into the twelve villages surround gumby with not arrogant white people but locally selected africans who they knew who will intend listen to the people. And what can we do to help. And that's how to carry began and it's now in a hundred and four villages through all.
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"Came right up looking up with those big big is an to mine and he reached out and touched my nose. That was that was absolute magic absolute funded. She trusted me enough to have that series. Wonder who is she. I don't know have you seen that recent Movie that's getting so much claim might octopus teacher. The had no idea to. I've heard so much about it. Because i talked to the guy craig foster and he told me that he had much that same feeling when this octopus reached out and stroke his face with all news. Yeah well i now. I really need to see it When you have experiences like that that are I mean they're moving just to hear about. How does it feel cutting several decades later to when you began your work as an activist when you When you begin to discover exactly what's happening with research chimps and and The work that needs to be done in terms of deforestation. How does it feel to see chimps in in those conditions then and And was it was. Just being moved was being moved by their plight. having seen them that encouraged you too can break out of your comfort zone in terms of not like you say not really being the most social person and being a bit shy Did you feel then pushed to do that. Confidence that i helped put together.
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"Your connection with chimpanzees. How has that changed your the way you connect with humans. I think it helped me understand. Humans a bit better. You know what we have brought with us. From that ancient apelike human like common ancestor. But you know one day. I was out in the forest just alone and it was some tim's feeding high in the tree and i just had this strong feeling that you know we we put words into everything and so we talk about having a soul and we talk about reality. Set me up and i thought well it seems to me that this a spark of life spark of spark of spirit in every animal in every tree and in us and in us we call it so so i thought well if if i have a so i hope so goodbye. Vissel kobe's chimpanzee has a soul and we have company a very beautiful waterfall. Well several but this one full eighty feet and over the years and years and years. It's one groove in the solid rock and so a civil plunges eighty feet down into this shallow stream makes a roaring someone and the water displaces the air so it was always a breeze in the vibes at the side of the scored this channel swain and when the chimps approach not always but often the males start habra sling and they get normally they avoid the zuni about that deep they Upright in side side they bend down pick rox they may who event sometimes climb up the vines side the full push out in the spray and then at the end you see him on a rock looking up this stuff coming. It's always going so with here. And i think chimps had words if they could actually share the emotions and discuss them like weekend that might have led to an early animistic religion. You know worship and some stars sure well you can see them. You can see them moved. And wow that is a spouse say they share our sense. Wonder all wonder god to witness that what what what does that. Feel like to you to describe that to somebody who is i'm in awe just the secondhand version of what. What is that like the first time that you saw that human behavior the first time that you made that connection that chick. They're not only is their dna so closely related but their behavior and the way they show affection. What what did that feel. Like jane to to witness that firsthand. Well it was all magic. You know right at the beginning. I was so intent on collecting data. That i didn't relaxed enough to feel the wonder the magic apartheid was actually seeing. But then as as you know as i began to learn more than chimps than i had time to sit back and have these thoughts mystical. Almost bad i an Time and The the must serenity the and you were for the most part on your own so so it must have been meditative in. When do you think you'll be able to go back there and experienced that again. Well it's not the same now. It's not the same gun bay that it was you know the tourists coming and you know being having slightly funny knee icon. Climb high up and he will. I could but it would be kind of silly. Because i need when funny. I might slip. Then give everybody such problems with. Bring me down again so i can only see the chimps fellow. That's when they'll be surrounded with tourists. No ory so and gumby me getting in the forest wonderful. But it's just it's just different. It's wonderful but people who've never been there before they get the most amazing experiences and say it's one of the best times of their life. But then i've been so lucky to know it when it was really a night that yes yeah well and how did you relationship with The first chimpanzee. David greybeard the one that you i were able to make contact with. How did that relationship evolve. What was that process like. He was septic character he was he was a bowl later. He wasn't the top ranking male but when he moved off of like follow him he was very quick to reassure frightened. Young stole female. They'd come running up to him. They were frightened of some aggressive male or something and he'd hugged him. Oh pat them and he was very wise so so very very determined and if he didn't get his bananas come into the tent. Pull it apart. Wants shows the worst time behind the count. The quite a steep hill. Going up to a ridge between ballet's that's quite tall anyway. I was climbing up the and right at the top. I met david and he janus in camp. I wouldn't have been honor so he took my wrist slapping. Our giardi went quite fast. And i thought you even i'm going to trip and fall on top of him. Lovely though he is he'll be frightened stronger than me. But fortunately i managed to keep my feet but then will be going to the chem. I was on my own up there. But we had By then we'd had boxes may two chimps. It wasn't free pro. We have to go inside the building an latch men box with full open at. Tim could take the bananas. Well he went to whether been honest kmart and held me. I couldn't give him the bananas without and then he began to get angry. And you don't want david greybeard angry. I think oh my what. I think somebody arrived. Thank goodness go. Bananas are that's incredible. That's incredible and did you ever. I mean that's an example of Did you ever feel threatened. Certain maybe not by that chimpanzee but by others were times where you felt you got to close frodo. He's he disappeared. Kosice route the dark but he was a bully bullet of the chimps. Humans had the research station by then. He used to go out of his way to charge us. Push yourself are or the need stem on us but The two people he did it to most with me. Because i wasn't there all the time. By ben i went away and came back so i think every time i went back he had to prove all over again. The people's dominant domino's from amid but an of video for her and both of us a been in situations. Where had they done his normal thing pushing we would have died because of the edge of a precipice something like that and on those occasions do it really is so he knew the limits. He knew he certainly didn't want to kill you. Showing off proving dominant and jane. While that's happening to you have to just kind of go with it you do. You can't certainly fight back ridiculous. Yeah wow what and with other chimps like a david greybeard. Would they be able to protect you or no. Because he is in that order. He's they wouldn't want to read. I didn't time part of the group. I wanted to be an observer. Yeah yeah and when did you make actual physical contact at. What was that like was was that a very gradual thing and and how did that feel actually reach out and be able to touch them well at very few did i actually touch. David may be a first time. He took a banana from my hand. That was magic. And i could groom him and i could groom not to the of us flow and her family most of them. I didn't touch how do you. How do you discover those boundaries with flo in her family I what is that process like what. I'm sure it's very gradual. But but what was it like to actually get to that point where you could. You could groom them. Well i think the most up to grooming david the most wonderful experience with flo infant Five months just torturing you know they they develop slowly like to and he was looking at me. I was sitting on the ground and he came towards we flow bit worried still she had her hand around his tummy but she lets him come on. She had a little pouting face in which is a bit nervous..
"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
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"dr jane" Discussed on Life is Short with Justin Long
"I love central american. When i was a little kid i had a little club. Was jealous of my older brother for being boy scouts cub scouts. Because that was that young that i started a central american club years later. I got to go to costa rica. I had been fascinated by it because of nash. I love national geographic. I loved animals. And for some reason the the coolest one seemed to live in costa rica so years later when i got to go there i had a day there with my frame stuffy supporter of the show and our lives and hopefully he's listening. He doesn't support us now. Financially happened no or the emotionally emotionally. Yes that's right. he's benefactor. No but i got to go there with james and a bunch of other friends. And i think it was. The best day of my life was the day that i got to interact with monkeys spider monkeys. I don't know if i've ever really been happier. And i don't think these are things you're supposed to do. I don't think it's good for the monkeys but got it was a day. I'll never forget my point. Is i love. Monkeys should seek out monkeys more often. I know it was that great dino. I seen footage of that day. And i've never seen you happy. Yeah it was like a pig and ship it was like a maniacal little kid like happy maniacal. Okay well speaking of good maniacal. Here's the show. You could be a dream. Life good injury. You're listening to life is short. I'm your often likely happy host justin long night injuring sweetheart do With me as always my brother christian who also you like monkeys. I is it fair to say. They're not your favorite animal. Who doesn't like now who well. They're so cute well. I don't crave a bad experience that you had you. Don't i'm sure i would enjoy it. But they're welcoming little. Yeah well this now is. Because i don't know what if they would potentially hurt me right. I mean these were little. It's true and with many primates. They they could. I mean they're cable unpredictable. Yes yeah well these would be. I would probably end up doing it if i got talked into it. But i wouldn't be there'd be part of me. That was apprehensive. Until i know what you mean and i'm sure i was the same because these are there's something about looking into the eyes of a monkey the issue. There's just seemed so humid in their hands. Mean the way they grasp there is something momentarily there was. I remember them. I'm trying to put myself back there momentarily unsettling about it because they do have such human features in in appendages that it almost feels like they could do while pharrell. They're like so. It's like if a little hairy person like just jumped on your head you know you'd be like wouldn't like it. I know i know so. There is a moment of adjustment. Like wait a minute. Are they gonna like rip out my eyeball all of a sudden they just gonna reach down smack me in the face which would have been cute but but with a larger primate like a chimpanzee ansi or chimpanzee. Oh i know. I say chimpanzee you say chimpanzee. No you just said. Japan japan though i did yeah i that was a mistake. I didn't mean to but anyway like that. They are capable of real. I heard once that that was either. A chimpanzee or gorilla could palm paul find new year to coconuts and hold them out on either side of itself like stretch out its arms and and crush them with both of them at in one move That seems difficult. Imagine their strong. My god that guerrillas pound for pound for pound the strongest animal in the world and they only eat vegetables. Pretty cool back two chimps. Yep why are we talking about chimps. I will tell you because. I'm so excited to do this. It's gonna take me a while to find my way to introduce her. Because i think this. I think this is by far our most distinguished guest at least the one the most distinguished to me the one i'm most excited about and The one i can't believe agreed to show our guest. Today is the distinguished the legendary dr. jane goodall. She's dame she's our first dame. Oh yeah. I actually didn't know that but it's inouye surprising. Judi dench has not returned our calls. Oh we could get helen mirren. You know why because we know her son rio anyway. It's not about you know. Let's be satisfied with one day time one day a year. That's a pretty good dame quotient. Jane goodall is like you said a legend. She is the world's foremost expert on chimpanzees She's a brilliant anthropologist in primatology and we are. I second your Excitement about having her on the show. It's what a what a coup i. Oh we got her to do. It's monkey like exuberance. It's it's i'm saying that specifically it's the similar exuberance displayed day. I got to believe monkeys psych There should be a word for that. But but yeah. I was just thrilled and i had seen her documentary. I've known her since i was. I'm not known her personally. Her a known. Ever since. I was a kid i mean. She's reading about her and her work and how important that can't be. It can't be overstated. and so i'm going to save a lot of it. 'cause i you'll hear me. Just obviously i i. Gosh i you can't help but gush around her and she's we'll talk about an shows a podcast of her own among many other things that she does. She's one of the busiest human beings on the planet she it's called hope cast And she Travels over three hundred days a year. Of course she hasn't in the last year but if you watch this documentary butter. The most recent one is called the hope. It's on disney plus not an ad. But it's really incredible Any any footage of her. I'm sure most of you've probably seen something of her and her work. But this documentary was really moving. And it's the most up-to-date one. So that's the one i'd recommend but it is. You'll see how much she works. How much she travels and how committed she is to this. 'cause in what strong did incredible convictions. She has so. We'll get into all of that now. And i feel like i should save some of the xavier gush. Okay all right because you'll get plenty of it after this my my talk with the extraordinary incredibly important.
"dr jane" Discussed on The Current
"The, he smashed pretty much every billboard and streaming record that matters. It has already been streamed more than a billion. Times. People still to this day point to this is the moment everything changed. But whether you agree with those claims are not this podcast is it really about him either you're not an astute businessman or you're inherently racist when it comes to black music and his country this is not a drake podcast available now on CBC listen or wherever you get your podcast. This is a CBC podcast stopping the spread of covid nineteen among under forties is a big concern but remember those early terrifying days of the pandemic when the disease was spreading fast and it was most devastating in long term care homes many staff had fled for fear that the disease. Could infect them perhaps, they were just worried about the disease and what was going on in broader society. The stories of what happened as a result were horrifying. There are patients who were left without food or water sometimes in their own urine and feces. Amid that disaster my next guest was among those who stepped forward to help before Dr Jane. Philpott was dean of the Faculty of Health Sciences a Queen's university before she served as federal. Health Minister Ingestion does I government she was a family doctor and went a care home in her area was struck with an outbreak. She answered the call like everyone else. I wanted to be able to be helpful I. This is not something I would've expected to do, but it's changed me and I am. You know we have gone through some terrible grief unfortunately, six of the forty residents died it was a horrible experience in that way but in terms of. understanding more with the lives of these people and those who care for them are like it has been a an experienced that has made me I hope a better person. I was chained Philpott on the current in May she has now written about her experience in a book she co edited called Vulnerable The law policy and ethics of covid nineteen. Dr. Jane Philpot Good Morning Good Morning Matt when you reflect on that time that we were speaking of out in May in your experience at Participation House. How do you think that experience changed you?.
Texas hospital says man, 30, died after attending 'COVID party'
"Old man from Texas died after contracting Cove in 19 from a party. The man had told his nurse he thought the virus was a hoax, according to a chief medical officer of Methodist Healthcare, Dr Jane Appleby. These parties air held by somebody diagnosed with Corona virus to see If anyone else gets infected to see if the virus is riel just before the patient died, he told his nurse. I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but
"dr jane" Discussed on ID10T with Chris Hardwick
"Talk to people? How can you possibly expect their inge right snow good pointing a finger saying stop wrong because they came to find ways of telling you you're wrong but that ultimately go in through and showing films and educating like you were able to gain access to the educate people to effectively? Do you wanted them to do which was to stop. You know the certain kinds of of research I mean it. Do you ever feel a sense of? I was right or do you. How do you sort of keep pride and ego out of the equation when you're trying to accomplish things because that can be such a dangerous thing with people? It's easy the so much less to do. I mean you know. What am I accomplished out of what I would like to accomplish out here is probably that you really think that? Yes me Research labs. We still got people burning fossil fuel. We still got forest disappearing. We still got climate crisis. We still got people not realizing that it's our what we're doing to animals in the environment that led to this pandemic as was predicted by science years and years ago. And you know so the so much to educate. That's why my roots in to the program for us to me is probably the most important thing because mega carry on. When I'm gone will yes and also the idea that it can be difficult to change in adults mind but it's not difficult it well some yes. I mean sudden people a person. Your country wouldn't even try to change his mind. What might I do see of mine? Nervous people if you if you broach some right. I tell you I was in a cab driver. I knew I was in Iran to that. May All the way to Heathrow. You'll like my assist. She does stuff with animals. Zoli stopping people blog our Madonna. So I told him. Stories told him about the gyms that told him how we're helping people in. Africa didn't make any difference when we go Heathrow. He didn't have changed and he me ten pounds so I said if it till Sista. I didn't think he got back after two weeks. That the promise that one. Thank you so much for your donation.
"dr jane" Discussed on ID10T with Chris Hardwick
"Walker the PODCAST NUMBER. Ten Sixty two. This is a very special episode. Today is Earth Day that this is going up April twenty second so I am putting up this podcast with Dr Jane Goodall which I recorded yesterday and she. We did video conferencing. She's in the UK right now and it was. It was an incredibly inspiring and meaningful conversation with her. She is such a beautiful soul just turned eighty six a couple of weeks ago and and busier than she's ever been. I think one of the things that so incredible is that when you're talking to her because we could see each other. Obviously it's you can see the empathy that she has for literally all living creatures and you can see it in her eyes and one of the things that she goes back to that we talk about in. The podcast is that she is just lives in the moment. She's incredibly present and you can see the presence and you can feel it and when she's talking to you she's really focused on you and it was. It was really incredible. This will go down as one of my all time. Favorites we Had A little technical glitch at the top because we were trying to for some reason. The software was muted on her end. So you know at the top of the podcast when we're talking about like oh you're you're you're not muted. We can hear you. We can hear each other that that's what that is but she was just so great. She's promoting her new documentary on NAT. Geo which is available now. It's called Jane Goodall the hope and so. Yeah so go go watch that Lydia and I watched the other night. It was spectacular. I mean seriously the things that she has accomplished and you know she just does things. She doesn't when you know when constantly she's taken pads in life if people have said Oh. You can't do that. That's not possible. And she she just does it anyway. She figures it out and she proves them wrong and she does that. Because it's something that's important to her and it's important to the world so I highly recommend you watch the documentary after you after you listened to the podcast and you know we and also she's just so sweet you know we Afterwards we were talking like after we finish the podcast about you. Know I'm I'm GonNa make a donation to the institute. I was inspired to make a donation to our institute after we talked. And by the way if you WANNA learn more about the work. She's doing or the work her institute is doing or the the the program for children roots and shoots that she started. You can go to Jane Goodall Dot Org. So we're talking about pop culture and sort of television and stuff and she said Oh. I don't really don't really have time to go see movies. I if I do watch. Tv It's usually like nature documentary. But if I really want to relax I watch Agatha Christie or Poirot and it just it just seemed so perfect so wonderful and anyway. I sincerely hope that you enjoy this. Podcast as much as I enjoyed having the conversation and that it that it inspires you a in a myriad of ways in the last thing I'll say is that in one thousand nine hundred and ninety seven. Yours truly was a contestant on celebrity jeopardy the first question that I buzzed in on and got right. She was the scientist who lived in the forest with the chimpanzees to study them. Who is Jane Goodall? Yes so it all came back around twenty three years later. It's possible I'm reading too much into the connection of that at any rate. I'm very proud to say that this is the ID ten episode number ten sixty two with Dr Jane Goodall Ice Protocol Feverishly Typing. Like maybe it's a preference in a setting or trying to trouble shoot. You got it to work. I'm so glad loves sonny. I've got a thing which was before the aim news so I am not before. That's what I'm used you know. Technology is supposed to make our life simpler. It just complicates things.
"dr jane" Discussed on The Tim Ferriss Show
"So we're both and it's going to be a race. Isn't it as to which side will win if they if the greedy materialism of the capitalist materialistic world wyndhams then we're doomed and this is why I spend so much of my time trying to grow program for young people because I would say almost none of the young people who've been through this program which began in ninety-one and is now in six countries and his kindergarten through university in Idaho? I don't know more than two. Who strayed from the part of having good values respect for nature respect for each other? So I want to grow more and more of these young people because they're the future leaping stealing their future for decades and this is the roots and shoots youth program that you're referring to yes roots and shoots dot org also put that in the show notes for everyone of course. Let's let's talk a little bit more about that and As it relates to youth program the the cultivation of minds that are inclined to bend towards the light instead of the darkness or towards good instead of evil. I know there's a very strong words but let's use them for now. If we're looking at the current situation as it relates to SARS Cov two and Cova nineteen and so on Could you speak to? What got us into this fix. And I mean I'm thinking. Of course the wildlife trade it's effects on human health and so on it doesn't need to be specific to that but how we got here how we contributed to it and then also if if you're teaching us how you would how you would educate them so that they don't make the same mistakes. They long last week questions I did. It's a bit of a sloppy question. Sorry about that with the Hocutt nineteen cassettes on everybody's minds right now and the shocking thing is. It's been predicted by science. Decades just like climate change has been predicted and I only wish somehow that been locked down about climate. Change the way that this being locked down over this this this virus because you know we we. We have known for all this time that because we are destroying the environment of some of these animals. There's spending having to spend more time in contact with each other because they've got less habitat and also more time in contact with humans and sometimes that's that involves crop rating but there's also people penetrating deeper and hunting. And then of course selling the meat in the African markets Bushmeat Aman selling me to cross Asia in these terrible what they're known as wet markets and also selling animals for medication for pets. All of this bringing us in close contact so the theory seems to be what the virus in a wild animal and because of this closer contact between animals it jumps into another animal. And that's when in these very bad conditions including factory forms by the way the virus commend jump into a human if there is a similar kind of virus with which this new one combined and that leads to a new A new form which as as is the case with with the Kobe. Nineteen can be rather devastating. Just think if we if we treated climate change like this all those years ago when we were warned about it we might not be in the State Lauren. Now so basically I'm saying is. Our leaders have not listened to science. The big corporations have not listened to science and hundreds of people. Now we're in this materialistic money. Grabbing age you know just want to carry on with business as usual. They don't want to think about not eating. Well the meat they won't or not Favoring the destruction of a piece of habitat to build yet another shopping mall so you know. That's that's what the viruses teaching us. And will we learn from it? We didn't seem to land from the markets were live animals are banned for awhile but then it started up again. China is not talking about making it permanent with a still allowing animals. Wild animals to be sold medicine snaps. A tremendous loophole luckily people in China to close that loophole. To if you have a classroom and as you do now with social media I mean you you are arguably reaching more people now virtually than you might in travel speaking to live audiences. But let's say you had a classroom of ten thousand children or adolescents youth. Who were hanging on your every word. What are the principles truths that you would infuse in your lessons to them? That could possibly help. Avoid some of these problems that we've we've created a or types of thinking. What would the would the curriculum? Look like must've Let me just say that roots and shoots which began in Nineteen Ninety One. Twelve high school students dar-es-salaam incomes in Yep We decided as a meeting the same of our aid. You know coaching in the pox. Illegal dynamite fishing and street children than cruel treatment of animals in the market. I mean they were concerned about what kinds of different things so we decided that the main message this new program that we wanted to start together would be that every single individual matters is role to play and makes a difference every single day with a choice to kind of difference to make right from the beginning because I learned about the Indian connection of things in the rainforest. How every species matters has evolved play? We decided that every group formed would choose between them three projects one to help people wanted to help animals one to help the environment and they would share their projects with each other and so we began listening to them. What did they feel matter? How could we help them? And when he when young people understand the problems and we empower them to take action and listen to their voices. It's quite extraordinary. I mean the my main reason for hope is traveling around the world as I have been. I've met so. Many young people have been positive. Roots and shoots or similar groups. Shining is wanting to tell Dr Jane what they've been doing to make a better world and because they can choose they they they're passionate and they sit down together and they discuss it very democratic. They discuss what what they can do between them on. Bay Sometimes ASK FOR HELP. Maybe a parent may be a teacher And then they will up this leaves and take action whether it's restoring a wetland whether it's installing rubbish bins or organic gardens in the schools whether it's saving up money to help quake victims and because we put them in touch with each other face to face when possible but but truly which is wonderful they are inspiring each other. Yes we do have some curricula because some countries wanted UK wanted a curriculum. Were one hundred. One thousand seven hundred schools now and some of the African countries want curricula. Sometimes it's just you know so yes I do have messages for them and I do talk to them about the role that they can play about the importance of thinking about the consequences of the little choices. You make each day. How people may look different. Sound different the different languages. Different color of skin. But if they've fall and bleed the blogs saying if they wait the tears of the same and kids get it so it's not so much teaching. It's it's sort of the values of developed. They've grown up with the program and we now have a number of adults in quite high places and they have kept their values as they as they read the program and move on into adult life. So we've got teachers and people in government and people in law an alleged just remembering the importance of respect is a key word. Respect the environment respect for animals and of course I tell them about animals in how each one has a personality. A mind emotion. How pigs and rats and octopus are amazingly intelligent and how they can feel pain and fear and despair so it depends on the children on their age kindergarten university. Between between depends what I tell them. But I do as many Gatherings of young people as I possibly can and as you say now I can do it. Virtually and I can talk to them about things that I've learned. I recall a few years ago speaking with a friend of mine who I consider to be a good father a good parent and I asked him what advice he would have for someone like me. Considering having children I have none of my own yet and his advice he had a number of pieces of advice but his first was teach your children to be optimists and it seemed like a precursor or a prerequisite for so many other things. And I'm I'm looking at a time. Article Time magazine Article. That is that you wrote in two thousand two and I just WanNa read one paragraph and then ask you to elaborate or speak to it. So here's here's the paragraph. The greatest danger to our future is apathy..
"dr jane" Discussed on The Tim Ferriss Show
"Goodall. Welcome to the show. Thank you very much. I'm thrilled to finally connect. I don't use the word hero. Much certainly been a hero and an idol to me for many decades in a previous lifetime. I want to be a marine biologist and I am also very lucky in a sense that I have you in one place because your team has told me you travel and have traveled three hundred plus days a year for the last several decades but my understanding now is that you are in Bournemouth and I thought we would start perhaps close to the beginning and this certainly takes place in England just as context from your childhood. I understand that you grew up during wartime and I would love to hear you describe what that experience was like. Well now. I'm really glad I grew up at time because although it was shocking I mean we will in Bournemouth but some bombs were dropped here. The German fighters used to dump their bombs near the coast if they hadn't managed to hit the target and whistled of in the Middle. So we had the bombs falling. We had sirens air-raid warnings. We had to go into an air raid shelter which is a little tiny cage really supposed to be keeping people safe so families children were issued them and people were killed and damaged and we never knew the bums would fall in London. My uncle was a surgeon so he come back every other weekend with shocking tales of of what had been happening but the reason I say I was glad I grew up then is because I land take nothing for granted. One Square of chocolate was huge. Treat food was rationed closed garage and We had very little money was no television. Only television. Were the news reels. That was just about the war and so books became very very important and I still got my childhood books here with me in the room as I speak to you and so we luckily have. This garden is my grandmother's House and I spent lots and lots of time with my dog. So the really shocking part was hearing about the Holocaust and seeing photographs of the skeletons of the Jews in the camps were opened up. I mean skeletons of living people and that really changed everything. Life started thinking age ten about good and evil so that was my growing up in the wool. As you were growing up I I read a number of stories that seem to In a sense foreshadow much of what would come later but I read stories of your mother finding you observing earthworms in your bed. I read of stories of you hiding and waiting for more than four hours to see a hen laying an egg and the police almost being called. Because you are missing is is that comfort with patients and on some level isolation. Something that you developed yourself. Is that something? You've observed and other family members Would love to hear you comment on that. If you could it was just me. I mean on the family in a loved animals but they didn't observe them a watch them. I didn't have any Any example tour. I was just born that way and having such a supportive mother. I mean UH swims in my bed imaginable. The Earth and the muck and lots of mothers will be horrified and and throw them out of the window which she just required. Lee said You die here and we took them back in the garden amend the Hen House Story. It's one I tell a lot because we went to stay on a farm in the country and I was given. The job of collecting Henson was appropriate from there. Were no animals. Cooped up in tiny prison-like would Animal concentration accounts. They will free roaming in the field and the hens and the NFL but they lay the eggs in these little hen house. Apparently I began asking. Everybody wins the egg. Come out nobody. Distinctly remember seeing hen go into a hen house and I crawled off to her and skulks of fear. She flew out. I can still feel her wings itching. My face and I must have sought in that little four and a half year. Old Brain will know Hen Malayan kids dangerous place so way to that was the time. I waited and waited in this empty house but was rewarded the head and came in and I didn't know the family being read. I was rushing towards the house and that was mom. You can imagine how worried she was having nearly called the police but instead of how dare. You often do bed that again. We should have killed the magic. She sat down to hear this amazing story. And the reason I love it is less the making a little scientist curiosity asking questions. Not Getting the right on to find out feel self making a mistake not giving up and learning patients. A different kind of mother might have crushed that early scientific curiosity and I might not have done or not done. It seemed to really cultivate your not just ability but perseverance with observation and in watching footage of you and we'll we'll certainly get to Africa and other experiences in your biography that you have to have many sensitivities and I could be off base with that but I want to ask you a bit more about your mother because in reading a New York Times profile from Suppose about a year ago there was a one paragraph that caught my eye and it was related to your childhood during wartime and related to your father's brother. Rex who had joined the Air Force and was killed and the sentence that caught. My eye was one day. We were in Bournemouth in the evening and suddenly she. Your mother screamed wrecks and started sobbing hysterically and it was the very moment he was shot down over Egypt. So just for clarity. Is that to say that. She somehow intuited that he had been shot down before receiving news. I'll absolutely I mean nope we didn't know for quite some time under a different. Asians like we were walking on the beach. Normally we have to go up to our little guest house. The quickest way but on mom decided to take away which she never did. She had a week hot but she took us the long run. I still remember looking up with the Blue Blue Sky. Emceeing an aeroplane quite high and seeing to black things that looked like cigars coming out on each side. Among through me and my assistant to the ground I can still hear the terrible explosion. Am One of those bombs felt right on the path where we would surely have seen if we go short way the normal way. Have you experienced any of that for lack of a better word intuition in your own life in the field or elsewhere or is that something that was unique to your mother? Pretty unique to her. But you know I experience very vividly the presence of my second husband after he guide and it ties in with what other people have seen them felt so in other words. We're going into a different realm here but I don't know what people believe and I'm not quite sure what it all means myself but it's a p people have been asking me what's next big adventure and always say dying because you know when we die the nothing which is fine or something and if there's something what's an adventure to find out you've had you've had more adventures than most and I suppose. This is a good time for those who certainly recognize your name. I think almost everyone will recognize your name. And they'll know that you're considered to be one of the world's foremost experts on chimpanzees but beyond that. I think many people don't know about the early chapters and I'd like to Segue to that because it opens up a number of doors that we can explore. Let's flashback could to March nine thousand nine hundred eighty seven and I believe your passport is missing. Can you explain what has happened? Well we've done a last minute shopping and of course in those days when planes going back and forth that's how long I've lived and it was by boat and we actually I suppose train hustle. Something I can't remember the details and suddenly I found. I didn't have my passport and I remembered we'd been shopping in Peter Jones and so mum rang up shops at they funded. We found somebody to go and collect it who rushed to the dock otherwise I couldn't sailed and all my money would be wasted. So what's the drama with a way to start and that money just just for those? Who aren't familiar W that was painstakingly. Gathered over rather long period of time with various jobs was not. It's not like you had this in a bank account just waiting to be used for whatever purpose for a long period of time school. It was no money for university. I have to have a job. You know we had very little money so I I pulled it a secretarial course which was boring but I got my diploma. I got a job then. Came the letter from a school friend. Inviting me to Kenya so you could save money in London so I went home and got a job a waitress in a hotel around the corner very hard work in those days families coming to spend a week by the seaside. And you've got to look after them for whole week. If you wanted any so the tips the small but hunt made sure they own you. I was saving up for Africa. So it's how I got the money I would love just to spend a moment and we don't have to spend a lot of time on this but discussing Louis Leakey and I've read various accounts of how you connected with him. But I'd like to to hear it directly from you and In perhaps you could describe what it was that he saw in you but that initial contact is and how that came to be is is of great interest to me two could speak to that. I would appreciate it like be staying with my friend for about a couple of months and somebody said to me at a Party. Appeal interested in animals. He released me yours leaky He was curator at that time. A Natural History Museum but of course. He's best known as a a very eminent paleontologist. He'd spent his life with his second wife. Mary Leakey searching for the fossils are stone-age ancestors across Africa and so I was very shy back then but I rang. The museum said I'd love to make an appointment to meet Dr Leaky Voice and I'm leaky what you want. But anyway I was so passionate about animals anyway. Went to see him and he took me all around. He asked me many questions about the stuffed animals. That were there and I think he was impressed. That because I read everything I could about Africa. I on so many of these questions while I mentioned earlier that boring secretarial course. I did two days before I met leaky. His secretary had suddenly quit. He needed a secretary and there. I was never know in this life. So I'm suddenly surrounded by people who can answer all my questions about the mammals and birds reptiles amphibians the insects the plans. It was heaven. Oh you leykis wanted. He see in. May young a feeling that women may better observe us. They were more patient. He also wanted somebody to go and study chimpanzees because of his interest in human evolution. So the fossils of early man that he was uncovering can tell a lot from up fossil about whether the creature walked upright muscle attachments. The wear of the tooth shows roughly. The kind of Diet behavior doesn't plus lies so he reckon there was a apelike human like common ancestor about six million years ago? Just now generally accepted and that he thought Jane Behavior in chimps and humans today is similar or same maybe it came directly from the common ancestor and has been with us through a long separate eagerly journeys in which case he could have a better way of imagining how his early humans used to behave so he wanted a mind uncluttered by the reductionist thinking of the animal behavior. People at the time. It was a very new science. They were anxious to make it a hard science which it shouldn't be and so the fact I hadn't been to college was plus the fact that I was a woman was plus. I was lucky for he. He seems to have picked the winning lottery ticket or at least a a very formidable combination of traits and if we take that mention of patients or his belief that in part women make better observers because of more patients if we flash forward then to you landing in Ghamdi Stream National Park Tanzania from getting the pronunciation correct. I was watching The first net gio maybe not the first but the one of the more recent NAT. Go documentaries about you titled Jane and in that and also in your writing. I believe it took something like five months of constant effort and having chimpanzees flee from your presence to finally be what we might call accepted and I have two questions related to that. The first is what do you think made the difference? Why did they go from fleeing to accepting and second is when you I really had the opportunity to look deeply into a chimpanzees is what did you? What did you see and just as importantly? What did you feel alright? Well the acceptance in the in the movie it sort of look to survey something accepted made. It wasn't like that it was very gradual. It was partly thanks to this one male who began to lose his much ahead of the others. Michael Him David Greybeard subtly white band and because he began to let me get closer and closer I think if I came to group in the forest and he was with that group because they separate into you know separate small groups and sometimes but if he was there than the others were ready to run but he was sitting calmly and I suppose that made them feel well. She can't be so dangerous after all so gradually. I could get closer. And the first time I came close to a group. That didn't run away. I think was one of the proudest moments of my life. You know it made it just in time before the six months money ran out and So go I'd seen David.
"dr jane" Discussed on The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss
"So we're both and it's going to be a race. Isn't it as to which side will win if they if the greedy materialism of the capitalist materialistic world wyndhams then we're doomed and this is why I spend so much of my time trying to grow program for young people because I would say almost none of the young people who've been through this program which began in ninety-one and is now in six countries and his kindergarten through university in Idaho? I don't know more than two. Who strayed from the part of having good values respect for nature respect for each other? So I want to grow more and more of these young people because they're the future leaping stealing their future for decades and this is the roots and shoots youth program that you're referring to yes roots and shoots dot org also put that in the show notes for everyone of course. Let's let's talk a little bit more about that and As it relates to youth program the the cultivation of minds that are inclined to bend towards the light instead of the darkness or towards good instead of evil. I know there's a very strong words but let's use them for now. If we're looking at the current situation as it relates to SARS Cov two and Cova nineteen and so on Could you speak to? What got us into this fix. And I mean I'm thinking of course the the wildlife trade it's effects on human health and so on it doesn't need to be specific to that but how we got here how we contributed to it and then also. If if you're teaching us how you would how you would educate them so that they don't make the same mistakes. They long last week questions I did. It's a bit of a sloppy question. Sorry about that with the Hocutt nineteen cassettes on everybody's minds right now and the shocking thing is. It's been predicted by science. Decades just like climate change has been predicted and I only wish somehow that being locked down about climate. Change the way that this being locked down over this this this virus because you know we we. We have known for all this time that because we are destroying the environment of some of these animals this spending having to spend more time in contact with each other because they've got less habitat and also more time in contact with humans and sometimes that's that involves crop rating but there's also people penetrating deeper and hunting and then of course selling the meat in the African markets Bushmeat Aman selling me to cross Asia in these terrible what they're known as wet markets and also selling animals for medication for pets all of this bringing us in close contact so the theory seems to be what the virus in a wild animal and because of this closer contact between animals it jumps into another animal. And that's when in these very bad conditions including factory forms by the way the virus commend jump into a human if there is a similar kind of virus with which this new one combined and that leads to a new A new form which as as is the case with with the Kobe. Nineteen can be rather devastating. Just think if we if we treated climate change like this all those years ago when we were warned about it we might not be in the State Lauren. Now so basically I'm saying is. Our leaders have not listened to science. The big corporations have not listened to science and hundreds of people. Now we're in this materialistic money. Grabbing age you know just want to carry on with business as usual. They don't want to think about not eating. Well the meat they won't or not Favoring the destruction of a piece of habitat to build yet another shopping mall so you know. That's that's what the viruses teaching us. And will we learn from it? We didn't seem to land from the markets live. Animals are banned for awhile but then it started up again. China is not talking about making it permanent with a still allowing animals. Wild animals to be sold medicine snaps a tremendous new poll luckily people in China to close that loophole. To if you have a classroom and as you do now with social media I mean you you are arguably reaching more people now virtually than you might in travel speaking to live audiences. But let's say you had a classroom of ten thousand children or adolescents youth. Who were hanging on your every word. What are the principles truths that you would infuse in your lessons to them? That could possibly help. Avoid some of these problems that we've we've created a or types of thinking. What would the would the curriculum? Look like must've Let me just say that roots and shoots which began in Nineteen Ninety One. Twelve high school students dar-es-salaam incomes and yet we decided as a meeting the same of our aid. You know coaching in the pox. Illegal dynamite fishing and street children than cruel treatment of animals in the market. I mean they were concerned about kinds of different things so we decided that the main message this new program that we wanted to start together would be that every single individual matters is role to play and makes a difference every single day with a choice to kind of difference to make right from the beginning because I learned about the Indian connection of things in the rainforest. How every species matters has evolved play? We decided that every group formed would choose between them three projects one to help people wanted to help animals one to help the environment and they would share their projects with each other and so we began listening to them. What did they feel matter? How could we help them? And when he when young people understand the problems and we empower them to take action and listen to their voices. It's quite extraordinary. I mean the my main reason for hope is traveling around the world as I have been. I've met so many young people have been part of roots and shoots or similar groups. Shining is wanting to tell Dr Jane what they've been doing to make a better world and because they can choose they they they're passionate and they sit down together and they discuss it very democratic. They discuss what what they can do between them on. Bay Sometimes ASK FOR HELP. Maybe a parent may be a teacher And then they will up this leaves and take action whether it's restoring a wetland whether it's installing rubbish bins or organic gardens in the schools whether it's saving up money to help quake victims and because we put them in touch with each other face to face when possible but but truly which is wonderful they are inspiring each other. Yes we do have some curricula because some countries wanted UK wanted a curriculum. Were one hundred. One thousand seven hundred schools now and some of the African countries want curricula. Sometimes it's just you know so yes I do have messages for them and I do talk to them about the role that they can play about the importance of thinking about the consequences of the little choices. You make each day. How people may look different. Sound different the different languages. Different color of skin. But if they've fall and bleed the blogs saying if they wait the tears of the same and kids get it so it's not so much teaching. It's it's sort of the values of developed. They've grown up with the program and we now have a number of adults in quite high places and they have kept their values as they as they read the program and move on into adult life. So we've got teachers and people in government and people in law an just remembering the importance of respect is a key word. Respect the environment respect for animals and of course I tell them about animals in how each one has a personality. A mind emotion. How pigs and rats and octopus are amazingly intelligent and how they can feel pain and fear and despair so it depends on the children on their age kindergarten university. Between between depends what I tell them. But I do as many Gatherings of young people as I possibly can and as you say now I can do it. Virtually and I can talk to them about things that I've learned. I recall a few years ago speaking with a friend of mine who I consider to be a good father a good parent and I asked him what advice he would have for someone like me. Considering having children I have none of my own yet and his advice he had a number of pieces of advice but his first was teach your children to be optimists and it seemed like a precursor a prerequisite for so many other things and I'm I'm looking at a time Article Time magazine article. That is that you wrote in two thousand two and I just WanNa read one paragraph and then ask you to elaborate or speak to it. So here's here's the paragraph. The greatest danger to our future is apathy..
"dr jane" Discussed on Animal Radio
"Dr Jane Goodall is supposed to join us. She is one of my heroes. My mentors I've always wanted. I visited with very few monkeys chimpanzees in my life. I can list them on like one hand. Maybe to Michael Jackson's yeah visit with him. Yes I met tables and It was a lot of fun but you know there's not a lot of places or opportunities other than zoos really to visit with chimpanzees. Dr Jane Goodall has spent an entire life life living amongst the chimpanzees. And you know what I heard. I heard that her father gave her a chimpanzee toy when she was just a little little tot and and her father's friends said that he shouldn't have given her the toy because it will give her nightmares really. Yeah I know go figure skater. Dreams come true. Yeah so we're GONNA find out a little bit about what she has done and what she's doing now because he's very involved now. How old is she now? We do the math on that. She was born nineteen thirty four for. I cannot wait to speak to her. I'll tell you that right now and I'll do the math during the commercial break. Eighty eighty four four years. Really yes yes. She's eighty five. She's still tours. Three hundred speaking engagements a year. Yeah okay so that's on the way coming up in. Oh approximately I believe thirty five minutes or so right here. Animal Radio Laurie. What are you working on for this hour? I have a a really bizarre story A police dog. I will tell you about who I don't know if I should say killed in the line of duty as maybe. This dog was actually killed by another police. Officer can homicide a police dog homicide right but these apparently happen. It's not as rare as you would think and it wasn't an accident so we'll explain the whole story in the couple of cases that we know what about okay and we're going to line four for Dr Debbie. Okay Cheryl how are you doing. I'm good how are you good. What's going on in your world? Well now I have a five year. Old Mixed breed out is part shepherd and she is having issues with bladder stones.
Jane Goodall: The Woman Who Never Gave Up
"Some people just don't quit. It's okay to quit occasionally, it's best to, but let Dr Jane Goodall be an example, to us, all sometimes you have a far fetched dream and instead of dismissing it, you do it anyway. And when you've cheered what you set up to do, just when you're at the top of your game, your dream might change based on what you've learned along the way your knee dream is bigger and more difficult to realize, but you do it anyway. Repeat into old age never slowing down. And you might even get nominated for a Nobel peace prize. The key to Dr Goodell's persistence, seems to have a lot to do with knowing what she liked from a very young age. And then just insisting on doing it. Her father gave her a stuffed chimpanzee when she was a baby. And she took it with her everywhere, even though it was by all accounts terrifying. She grew up loving to observe and catalog animals, and dreamed of one day living with African, animals and writing books about them for a living. Her mother, who was a novelist herself told. All that, that seemed like a perfectly reasonable idea, even though it was the nineteen forties and not at all. But middle class English girls were expected to do after she finished school. Goodall couldn't afford to go to college. So she worked odd jobs in London for a few years until a friend, invited her to visit her family's farm in Kenya at which point Goodall, immediately quit her job, and waited tables, until she made enough money to pay for the price of boat fair to Africa. While in Kenya. Her friends, justed, she contact the paleontologist, Louis Leakey curator of the corn did museum in Nairobi to discuss. Primates Aliki was interested in studying primate behavior in order to better understand early human species leaky hired Goodall as his field assistant on a paleontological dig and later asked her to return to England to research primates and raise money for a long-term observational study on wild chimpanzees, the gun base stream, national park in Tanzania into live nineteen sixty twenty six year old Jane Goodall began setting up her field station at Gumby, which would become the site of the longest running. Wildlife research project in history. British authorities initially balked at the idea of a young woman doing this kind of work on chaperoned. So Goodell's mother van accompanied her for the first few months Goodall observed, the chip head See's daily for two years before she earned their trust. Her method was just to watch the animals, and imitate their actions, recording everything that happened in a field journal. Two of Goodell's most important discoveries during this period, had to do with what chimps eight and how they went about getting food Goodall was the first to observe chimpanzees killing and eating the meat of small mammals prior to this. They were thought to be vegetarian and perhaps her biggest contribution to our understanding of primates was the revelation that chimps used collected and modified grass stems and sticks as tools to fish, termites out of their nests Goodell's discoveries were so significant Leakey said, now, we must redefine tool redefine, man, and he arranged for her to write a dissertation at Cambridge University on the behaviors of wild chimpanzees. It was accepted and she became one of only eight people ever to graduate from Cambridge with her PHD without first earning her undergraduate degree in nineteen sixty four Goodall married. Hugh on, Loic a Dutch wildlife photographer who leaky sent to record her activity in the field. They had a son in nineteen sixty seven who spent his early life with his parents at Gumby after Goodell in Loic divorced in nineteen seventy four. Good. All Mary, Derrick Bryson in nineteen seventy five who was the director of Tanzania's national parks during this time Goodell published books about her experiences in research at gone BEI, including in the shadow of man, which was criticized by scientists because of good old habit of naming subjects of her research. She called her most famous study subject, David greybeard, but the book was Beilby popular and has since been translated into forty eight languages as she lived and worked in Gumby. She began to notice changes to the chimpanzees habitat deforestation and mining practices forced the animals out of their homes and into spoiler in smaller areas. More than one million wild chimpanzees lift in Africa hundred years ago. But today, only a fifth of that population exists Goodall saw the writing on the wall. Which is why in the nineteen eighties Goodall changed her focus from observing chimps to working to protect their habitat.
U.S. job growth slowed in July; wage growth remains modest
"Live from NPR. News in Washington I'm Laurie London the treasury department is going after a, Russian Bank and. Other, individuals and businesses, accused of helping North Korea evade sanctions the action comes as secretary of state. Mike, Pompeo in, Singapore foreign Asian security summit this weekend as NPR's Michele Keleman. Reports Pompeo is urging countries in, the region to keep. The pressure on North Korea until it gives up its nuclear weapons the treasury department has added agro, say use Russian Bank to a US blacklists saying it knowingly facilitated what it calls, significant transaction at violated US sanctions, the US, also imposing sanctions on a Moscow based Representative of North Korea's primary foreign exchange Bank or Russia to expel him a Chinese trading company is also. Being singled out by the treasury department Meanwhile Secretary Pompeii oh Is attending a regional, forum in Singapore where he's encouraging countries to better. Enforce sanctions on North Korea he tells reporters quote we still have a ways to go. To achieve the outcome we're looking for Michelle Kellerman NPR. News Washington the. US economy gained one hundred fifty seven thousand jar thousand jobs and the unemployment rate dropped three point nine percent in July NPR's Chris Arnold has more on, the just-released report from, the Labor Department these job gains numbers for last month were a bit worse than expected but the revisions for the months before that show stronger job gains in the government previously. Reported so that about balances out, there, was solid hiring and manufacturing and healthcare growth in wages continues to be pretty tap it up two point seven percent from a year ago wages have been surprisingly sluggish given how low the unemployment rate is now fallen that's puzzling economists. Who don't know why more employers are offering higher wages to attract workers, Chris Arnold NPR. News Who's the first week of testimony in the trial of Paul. Manafort wraps up today NPR's Windsor Johnston, reports, the former Trump campaign chairman is facing, more than a dozen Bank, and tax fraud charges the jury is, expected to hear more testimony. Today from one of manafort's accountants fill a lift told yours yesterday. That he was unaware that Manafort kept offshore Bank accounts he also testified, that the lack of accurate information provided would lead to an incorrect tax return the prosecution has. Been working to prove that metaphor cheated the US government out of millions of dollars in undeclared income from his work for pro Russian politicians, in Ukraine Manafort has pleaded not, guilty to eighteen counts of, Bank and tax fraud his trial is the first. Stemming from this special counsel's investigation of Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen presidential election, Windsor Johnston NPR news The Dow is up sixty, points this, is NPR This is WNYC I'm shumita Basu in New York New York City's department of health has published its, conclusions about what they. Learned from two thousand thirteen measles. Outbreak in Brooklyn the largest outbreak in decades WNYC's Zoe has more an adolescent. Brought home the measles after a trip to London it spread to. Fifty eight people in orthodox Jewish borough park Williamsburg most of those cases, where people who had chosen not, to be vaccinated the outbreak led to one woman having a miscarriage. And. Cost the city, hundreds of thousands of dollars Dr Jane soccer says. Some doctors didn't recognize the, virus which delayed treatment you know in these days doctors don't often see measles rather than in, the past when it was much more, common doctors soccer says in the last few years health department has been educating parents and pediatricians and orthodox Jewish neighborhoods about.
The human and financial costs of a measles outbreak
"Three point nine FM and AM, h. one NPR news and the New York conversation From NPR news in Washington I'm Dave Mattingly a suicide bombing, in Afghanistan today has killed at. Least ten people some reports put that death toll much higher NPR's Diaa Hadid says the attack took. Place near a, Shiite mosque at least one suicide bomber targeted the congregation in Garda's city. A town near the border with Pakistan police, told Reuters they were trying to enter the mosque to help more. People wounded inside no militant group claimed responsibility for the attack but ISIS has repeatedly struck. Shot mosques shrines and gatherings across Afghanistan the suicide bombing comes a. Day after militants abducted and killed three foreign, nationals in Kabul they've been working as cooks for the international food company said, Exo the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee says Democrats. Are stalling as they continue to ask for more documents on federal judge Brad Kavanagh President Trump's nominee to the US supreme court I question the sincerity of demands for more docu In other words what. More do they. Need to know to vote no that's high will Republican Charles Grassley. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer is seeking documents from the national archives related to, Kavanagh's time working as a White. House lawyer for President George W Bush Kavanagh's confirmation hearing is expected in September with a Senate vote. Before November's congressional, midterm elections I'm Dave Mattingly NPR news in Washington I'm Richard Hake on. WNYC in New York New York City's department, of health published its conclusions about what it learned from a twenty. Thirteen measles outbreak in Brooklyn the largest outbreak in decades WNYC's Zoe Atalay has more an. Adolescent brought home the measles after a trip to London it spread. To fifty eight people in orthodox Jewish borough, park Williamsburg most of those cases where people who had chosen not to be, vaccinated the outbreak led to one woman having a miscarriage. And cost the city hundreds of thousands of dollars Dr, Jane soccer says some doctors didn't recognize the virus which delayed treatment you know in these days doctors don't often see. Measles rather than in the past when it was much more common doctors soccer says in the last few. Years the health department has been educating. Parents and pediatricians and orthodox Jewish neighborhoods about, the importance of vaccinations some two, hundred fifty students from across the city are in an arts, bootcamp this summer the. Two week program helps eighth graders prepare for additions that are part of the admissions process at some high schools Paris. Briggs says she wants to try out for the dance program at. LaGuardia high school.