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"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on KQED Radio
"World's best health care bioethicist Dr Ezekiel Emanuel profiles and compares eleven countries health care systems to figure out which one works best there's no clear winner but he does highlight Germany the Netherlands Norway in Taiwan as strong contenders and when it comes to considering healthcare reforms in the U. S. the manual believes they should emphasize primary care and he's in favor of calls for universal coverage this hour we'll talk to a manual about the book and we'll also get his take on the latest coronavirus news that's all next on form join live from NPR news on Giles Snyder house Judiciary Committee chairman Jerry Nadler is confirming democratic plans to issue a subpoena to Attorney General William Barr we have begun the process it takes prices we've begun the process issue that subpoena yes it is very much true we are we are doing that and they're speaking there in an interview on MSNBC Monday night saying Democrats will seek to compel bars testimony following the removal over the weekend of the top federal prosecutor in Manhattan the panel's ranking Republican Jim Jordan of Ohio so as far as willing to testify voluntarily once a pandemic is over White House is defending the president's use of what amounts to a xenophobic slur to describe the corona virus at the rally over the weekend impairs Asia Roscoe reports said trump is also facing criticism for suggesting that testing for the virus should be slowed down White House press secretary Kaylee McEntee says president trump was simply linking the corona virus to the country where it was first detected when he pointedly used the phrase Kong flu what the president does do is point to the fact that the origin of the virus is China it's a fair thing to point out as China tries to ridiculously rewrite history mac in any also argued that trump was joking about the media when he said he directed his administration to slow down testing for the corona virus isn't trump has repeatedly noted that more testing leads to uncovering more cases health experts have said that increased testing alone cannot explain the rising cases across the country I Shasta in PR news president trump is leaving the White House in the morning for a trip to Arizona another corona virus hot spot is scheduled to be in Yuba the highlight a key promise he made in twenty sixteen he'll be visiting the wall under construction at the border he's also to speak to supporters in Phoenix Florida has had a coronavirus milestone with one hundred thousand confirmed cases the state is one of those seeing a surge in new cases as NPR's Greg Allen reports Florida set a new record Saturday with nearly forty seven hundred cases Florida governor Rhonda Sanders says there's a disturbing trend the virus now is spreading largely among young people in their twenties and thirties in April the median age of those testing positive for the corona virus was sixty five now the Senate says in some Florida counties it's under age thirty but our cases are shifting any radical direction younger even as the number of cases rise there are some positive trends in Florida fewer people are being hospitalized for covert nineteen the governor says and plenty of beds and ventilators are available statewide and for seven weeks the number of deaths from the coronavirus has been going down Greg Allen NPR news Miami financial markets in nature rebounding after the White House clarified that the initial trade deal with China is still intact there have been a selloff following comments from a top White House adviser who seem to suggest that the deal was over this is NPR news seven Americans have been fined in Alberta Canada over the past week Dan carpenter reports tickets were handed out for violating public health rules for the corona virus the fines twelve hundred dollars each were given to American travelers would stop near lake Louise for long hikes in the park even though the Canada US border is closed to non essential travel there are exemptions American citizens can travel through Albert on their way to Alaska but they must show they are traveling for essential reasons such as going to their homes or for work Canada's border services agency says they must also be free of any covert nineteen symptoms and once inside Canada they must avoid contact with others remain in their vehicles as much as possible avoid staying at hotels and use drive throughs for food lying to border agents would carry a much stiffer fine and could result in a ban from returning to Canada for NPR news I'm Dan carpenter can Toronto the funeral for ray shard Brooks is set for Tuesday he's a black man killed during a struggle with police outside a fast food restaurant in Atlanta people lined up for a public viewing Monday at Atlanta's historic Ebenezer Baptist church meanwhile the Atlanta journal constitution is reporting that a bond hearing for the police officer charged with fatally shooting Brooks has been delayed because it coincided with Brooks funeral Seattle mayor Jenny Durkan says officials are working with the community to bring in occupied protests on to an end following two shootings over the weekend one of them fatal Durkan says the violence is distracting from changes sought by peaceful protesters following the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis of protesters took over the area more than two weeks ago on.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Health care bioethicist Dr Ezekiel Emanuel profiles and compares eleven countries health care systems to figure out which one works best there's no clear winner but he does highlight Germany the Netherlands Norway in Taiwan as strong contenders and when it comes to considering healthcare reforms in the U. S. the manual believes they should emphasize primary care and he's in favor of calls for universal coverage this hour we'll talk to a manual about the book will also get his take on the latest corona virus news that's all next on form join live from NPR news I'm Laxmi saying a day before his bombshell memoir hits the bookshelves former national security adviser John Bolton's giving some detailed scathing assessments about the White House before he and president trump parted ways on less than cordial terms one involves Chinese leader xi jin ping and peers Frank or Donia says that according to Bolton trump and she spoke often about the president's reelection prospects in that both lamented the Donald Trump could not serve more than two terms according to Bolton trump would tell Chinese president xi Ching paying that his supporters thought the term limits were unfortunate I just thought this was it was the kind of back and forth with authoritarian leaders that did not reflect well on Donald Trump himself for the presidency or the United States in an interview with NPR's Steve Inskeep palm said his seventeen months in the administration created a difficult dilemma form he said he would not be able to vote again for the Republican president he also said he wouldn't vote for Joe buying but instead plan to write in the name of a conservative Republican who he would identify later Franco or doing as NPR news the U. S. Supreme Court says the securities and exchange commission can strip fraudsters of their ill gotten gains but isn't here Scott Horsley explains a High Court set some limits on how the SEC can use that power the case involves a California couple who raised twenty seven million dollars from foreign investors ostensibly for a cancer research center that was never built the SEC went to court to get that money back but the couple argued they shouldn't have to repair all the money because some was used for legitimate expenses the Supreme Court says the government has the power to seize ill gotten gains but adds that seizure should be limited to net profits it's up to a lower court to work out the details the H. one decision was authored by justice Sonia sort of my door with justice Clarence Thomas casting the lone dissenting conversely NPR news Washington it's now going on three weeks since activists are camping out near police station Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood to protest for racial justice and there's been another shooting near what's come to be known as the Capitol Hill occupy protests Casey Martin a member station KUOW has details this was the second shooting in the area in less than two days early Saturday morning two men were shot a nineteen year old died the other man is still in critical condition last night a seventeen year old was treated for gunshot wounds and was released early this morning all the victims were taken to the hospital by private cars not the police who said they couldn't reach people inside the protest area because of the crowds for NPR news I'm Casey Martin in Seattle the Dow is up forty five points since the open to twenty five thousand nine hundred sixteen the SNP's up seven points to the nasdaq has risen sixty one points you're listening to NPR news live from KQED news I'm Ted Goldberg some of the poorest seniors in the bay area are being left out of a state wide program intended to help elderly people access food during the corona virus pandemic KQED Serra hook sini explains great plates was supposed to be a win win for struggling California restaurants and vulnerable seniors three high quality hot meals from bay area restaurants delivered free to your doorstep but the hitch those who make under twenty five thousand dollars a year aren't eligible because they might already get some assistance Berkeley city councilmember Rashi Cathar Oney says that's unfair CalFresh provides a maximum monthly benefit for an individual just about six dollars per day which is a fraction of the sixty six dollars per day allowed by the great place delivered program for Klay city council is asking FEMA the program's chief funder to reconsider its rules I'm Sarah Hosseini KQED news a federal bankruptcy judge has signed off on P. Ginny's plan to get out of chapter eleven the order from judge Dennis my tali caps utilities eighteen month run through bankruptcy protection the company filed for chapter eleven as liabilities amounted from a series of wildfires caused by its equipment P. genie says it plans to emerge from bankruptcy in.
Some states see COVID-19 cases surging as restrictions are relaxed
"Just as much of this country seeing improving coronavirus number several states are going backward in the fight with markedly high daily case counts or hospitalizations Florida Texas and Arizona all set records for daily new cases this week among twenty one states including Delaware with increasing trends in new cases CBS news correspondent Manuel Marcus Texas all record jump of more than twenty six hundred Florida has reported nearly fifteen thousand new cases over the last ten days but in a Wall Street journal op ed vice president Mike pence called reports of a possible second wave over blown Dr Anthony Fauci says don't call this a second wave we're still not done with the first one some politicians have attributed higher case numbers to better testing recent surges are outpacing the increase in tests that's according to Dr Ezekiel Emanuel the head of the department of medical ethics and health policy at Penn he says you can have a small percentage increase because of testing in terms of number of cases but when you see fifty percent or one hundred fifty percent increase in some cases in the number of cases which is what we're seeing across the south in the Sun Belt that is not testing Emanuel says that's new cases that he says is community
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on KDWN 720AM
"Eight eighty three investors my brother David masters and there is a bad moon on the rise right now let me ask you something you're listening to this radio show right now you're obviously concerned about what is happening in our world today you have to be if you are not a statue made out of marble you have to be concerned would you take a vaccine if somebody walked up you knocked on the door and said Hey we've got a vaccine that is the cure would you believe it would you take it not me in a million years David would you take it not on anyone's life I wouldn't know I mean I'm an anti VAX and I always I do believe I do believe that the doctors and it is just because some of these doctors are on fox news but the doctors that are out there that start by standing near the you know the state capital of whatever state they're in you know they're out there with a bullhorn or just out there saying what they've got to say saying we are being lied to we're being lied to and deceived they are not just on fox news people there at the capitol of your state saying this outside because the media is only giving us crap is only giving us lies on it fox is one of the only another's newsmax there's there's a few but as far as the mainstream media fox is the only one that's giving us the opinions from these doctors that are worth a damn and most of them will say you know that the that they lean on the side of of caution yes we all have to be cautious nobody is saying just like Chuck Norris said and whoever else they they also yes we know there is a virus out there but all these lies were being told about how many people are dying in the kind of the job that I've been doing is you know you hear about the guy skydivers parachute didn't open he died of coronavirus you know anybody that dies these days they're going to put on their coronavirus because it's a money grab well I am only money grassy a report few days ago that the state of Colorado had revised down their numbers by over two hundred now that everyone actually right they're revising down their numbers because they're doing the the proper investigation of the autopsies on people that died but I want to go to an article now that where doctor Nicole sapphire she's the real pretty one that's on fox news quite often she says that it is not reasonable to demand that all Americans be tested and to be given a vaccine or a or a vaccine be developed before opening up the country and here's what she says here's the article says very estimate Kratz and started left wing figures such as governor Gavin gruesome I've changed his name Dr Ezekiel Emanuel and Bill Gates have linked a resumption of economic and social normality to formulation and mass administration of a vaccine for the Nobel virus sapphire said it's completely unreasonable to say that we are waiting to open up for the vaccine because that vaccine may never come and then she also said urging the use of social distancing but here's what I saw I saw the twelve feet isn't enough because if you cough your cough can travel at least twelve feet so this whole social distancing I want to call it socialist distancing because that's what it is it's designed to divide people to keep us apart because you know what United we stand divided we fall that's right that's exactly right they're trying to divide the country and this is what civil war as you know fathers fighting against son and brother against brother and neighbor against neighbor it's a sad situation they were it's a bonus right now I mean literally it's upon us based upon this I have some amazing audio that I had to capture from our favorite Tucker Carlson and in the first clip it there's a series of clips here where he also goes into this with doctor Marc Siegel who for the first time I've ever seen Dr Marc Siegel become let's just say here motional yards to his cronies expanded up we start with Tucker we start with Tucker exposing Dr fab he and his friend Ted roast now listen to this you're gonna slip your mind according to recent reports Tetris to direct orders from the government of China and delayed calling the virus a pandemic when it clearly what's and yet there is one person who has long always through thick and thin but a fervent fan of Tetris and that's Dr Anthony Fauci ten jokes is really an outstanding person I've known him for the time that he was the minister of health of Ethiopia I mean obviously over the years anyone who says that the W. H. O. is not had problems has not been watching the WHL but I think under his leadership they've done very well he's been all over this I was on the phone with him a few hours ago leading a W. H. O. cool but when that time in Ethiopia that he's gushing I've known since he was in Ethiopia that's one to address was helping to cover up multiple cholera outbreaks for political reasons not really what you want in a World Health Organization director but what we have seems a bit much so I I got to say Hey this guy deserves the most prestigious award for reporting he is the most honest person in the media he's the most bold and he has the most courage anybody exposes these people but you know what thank god thank god we've got Tucker thank god we've got people you know dare I say like us that are willing to put everything on the line because we are the first ones are going to attack we're the first ones like I told you guys out there you know when you go to the to the state capital and you're carrying an A. R. fifteen and you've got a you know a three fifty seven magnum on your hip and you've got a a of the strap of bullets and you got a bullet proof vest you're wearing camel you're sticking out like a sore thumb in the nail that sticks up gonna get hammered down if you go out there and all you're trying to do is make a statement visual statement you know like that you're putting yourself in harm's way but not much good comes from it because you look like you look like and I gotta say this very careful you look like a crazy right that's what they want you don't want us to look like a crazy the reality is you should go you should go float like a butterfly sting like a bee but don't take your stinger out if you know what I'm saying yes don't it's like I I'm not afraid of a fly but I'm afraid of a loss okay so if you show up they're gonna swatch you down but if we show up like flies on them they can't get us all that's we got to do is be a swarm of locusts and flies then they cannot take us out for just being flies but they can if we start looking like a crazy with bullets and guns strapped all over our body we look like a terrorist it's very dangerous very dangerous for people to get angry and and not know what to do with that anger however they want us to be angry I mean this is the idea that you're imposing restrictions on people is if there were five years old you know you can't do this you can't do this you have to wear a mask you have to stay apart from people this is insane let me tell what my head hold on before you go that my two year old grandson came to the house the other day he was like every little boy playing in a puddle of water and money came and got him and said come on and now it's raining we gotta come in and he was having such a blast I mean being a little boy just stamping in the puddle and getting himself all wedding course you know if he keeps on doing that is gonna be soaking wet he's gonna catch a cold and and and maybe that's good for Manitoba mom added now so she brings into the house and he was a warm feeling I don't know what he was and so on all I hear of course I hear this will like all my what good is it I thought I thought she was tearing them limb from limb and I went over there and I said hold on now compared we'll pick yep let's let's go here let's do some in course the thing is that the noise he was making it seem like he was going insane right and here's the thing is if you want to look like that person that looks like they're going insane you're going to be put in a straight jacket and taken away and then everybody's going to get crazy here there are fifteen what's next gonna don't do that don't fall to temptation the anger don't be that little boy I know you cannot stop in your mud puddle right now but it is not a time to go crazy and have everybody look at you like you're going crazy what Rudyard Kipling say keep your head about you when all else are losing theirs and blaming it on you keep your head about you Hey man I've got an idea a good idea we could we unite we gotta start making these.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE
"That a victory So I do think that In the first part of the twenty twenty s we're going to get some major change And I think this idea that you know trump just came out. Let's get rid of the. Aca Let's have the course overturn it. I mean how. Can you do that when we need coverage at this very moment it just incoherent and when you say ten percent? I just want to put a number of that. Ten percent of Americans don't have are not covered. That's thirty million Americans thirty million. Yes and so when you're not covered when you start to feel sick you don't go to the doctor 'cause a you can't afford it You know there's the copays the deduct all the stuff but also we have eleven million wonderful immigrants who are living in this country. They don't have documents and they are scared shitless to go to the hospital the doctor for the fact that they would be arrested and removed so if when they get sick and they are afraid to get an seek help because of our system that set up against them they then they've had not only hurt their families the people around the people they love. It's it's I say. This like Republicans out of your own self interest okay. You don't love immigrants. I wish you were different. But you know what out of your own selfish interests. You want anybody who's feeling symptoms to go seek help. That's for you to protect you. Forget about them. Just protect you. You should support that and it's just. It's what we can have this conversation another time because I really. I think we can do this. I think we can do better and I think that having our health insurance tie door job which sounds good and if you have a good job and you got a good union especially you got great benefits but we've now learned as soon as the job ends boom you. The government may be giving you some unemployment insurance now. They're not giving you anything for your healthcare and it has caused a such consternation but my last question I want to ask. You was more of a global question and and Maybe you're not qualified to answer this but you must have thought about it that it seems like this virus which we don't know everything about yet. possibly happened because the habitat of certain Species I'm has been so encroached upon that. We have altered the national or the natural world. We've done that in the first world. Obviously it's done in the Third World and and in this case. Are we ever going to have the conversation? Maybe it has to be after? We're through this. I'd like to have it now. That our if we don't treat this planet differently that mother Mother Nature Loves US but it senses that we are doing things to destroy Mother Nature. Mother Nature is going to put us in the timeout room. Which is I think we're at what we're in right now but it can do far worse. I say to all the Earth's going to die note. The Earth is not going to die. The Earth will kill us before we kill it and I just think that we need to have a conversation about the why of this virus and the how it transpired and I think it's connected to all these things we care about with our environment with climate. Change all these things just just some. I haven't heard you talk much about this but I'm just curious as a citizen even Where you stand on this what you think we need to be. If you don't have the answer just get us thinking about this So I did write a piece for the Washington Post some about the issue that there are particular hot spots. Where various emerged where the mixing between people animals Who have been displaced from their habitat China. This area of China is one of them And it's a very important area that we've seen have have generated a number of These viruses SARS Being one of them So you're absolutely right that there is this Change in the relationship between animals. Humans the environment that does lead to The hopping the host transfer From in this case it appears bats to human beings And that does have to do with encroaching on environment more detail than and prolonged interaction between people and animals Where the viruses can adapt to a new host and that new hosts never seen this virus and can really really be deadly. As we've seen the same thing is true of Evola was true of how you know. That's how we got HIV. And so it's it's you're absolutely right. We have to rethink our relationship with the environment. Try to minimize these a major major disasters in. How do we stop this? You know in New York City here. The hate crimes against Chinese Americans in the last month or so. It's been I mean pretty ridiculous. Yeah so how do you? How do you as a scientist as a doctor Explain to people that is not the Chinese people you need to worry about as I say you need to worry about somebody who doesn't do anything for eight weeks when they're in charge. Yeah well I think that is prejudice and it's not It's stigma it's not very helpful to keeping US safe and it's certainly not representative of how this virus started and how it spread while I look forward to talking to again Thank you for coming on And thank you for the work. You've done all those years At the at the NIH was fourteen. Fifteen sixteen years something like that It sank you. We appreciate your service to this country. Keep telling the truth we need it. I don't mind if it's bad because it's it's I can deal with a lot of us can deal with it with the American public doesn't want to be treated like babies. We are adults and together. We've done this before in our past. We have made this a better country. We've come out of huge averse adversity. We can do it again but we need people like you leading the way telling us the truth. Keep doing that. Thank you thank you. Thank Gerhard Zico Manual Podcast is making the call and also on MSNBC ON Friday nights ten PM Eastern and Pacific Where he gets right into it. You get a full hour of this and I encourage people to listen. And also your book Thank you very much and thank everybody who listened to this podcast. I know there'll be a lot of comments. I'll pass them on to you and the rate we'll talk again soon. Thank you Mike. Take Care thank you thank you very much. Thank you for listening to this episode of Rumble with Michael Moore. I happened to be Michael Moore And I'm grateful to all of you for participating. Don't forget to watch our film. I'm the executive producer of it by Jeff Gibbs called planet of the humans. It still for free on my youtube channel. Just go the Michelmore YouTube channel. That's just ninety eight minutes long and and you will see some truths that you are not and have not been told And we present them not to not to scare the shit out of you but to say look. We are all good people. Everybody in this movement is good is good intentions. We need to come together and think about whether or not we're on the right track if you dig in and say yes that's the right track in and you don't do anything you just stay there. What if you're wrong at least if you've had a discussion and you consider multiple tracks that we might be on to save ourselves this planet? The species may be a better chance. Why would you take the risk of only one track? Who puts their eggs all in one basket? That's what we've been doing. That's gotTa stop. That's gotTa stop and To the people who are listening. Bless you thank you for yelling at US yell more civil disobedience. Make your voices heard. I'll stand with you every inch of the way and I know a lot of people listening to this podcast well to leave me your comments here on the podcast page Sent me a voicemail. You can actually send me a voicemail. I listened to all of them. And you do that. I think on the Anchor Platform and I love. Hearing from people helps me. Think about things and you will hear from me Very very soon here so until then he will be good to each other. Don't despair and wash your hands please. I love you all. Take Care Toxin.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE
"And we we who care about the people who are cleaning. The streets driving the buses stocking the shelves all those workers. I mean we love the doctors and the nurses and we hate hearing that how many of them have died is just awful but but all the other workers that we wouldn't be eating the we wouldn't have water in our tap in the kitchen if people weren't at the utility plant all the stuff that has to keep going that unit you see where people go with us. He started at that. What what what Dr so I ask. You is Doctor Emmanuel I don't want false hope but I want the truth and because I think once we get the truth collectively as a society. We can figure out what we need to do. We know the eight eight weeks that were lost there with trump. Wish that we had those back Now what we? We can't go back. We can turn the clock back and you know. He was all all bent out of shape when he found two of his staff. There had the virus and then all of a sudden now what I heard on the news. All the staff from the White House are going to be tested on a daily basis. Which is what all of us would like. You know in that sense of who had something at home. Where could swab or mouth and see that? We're okay for another day because see the thing is to take the test. My right on this if I if I go to the the walking clinic down the street I heard. They had test on there as soon as I walk out of. I'm yes and they find out. I'm negative. I walk out of there though as soon as I touch a DOORKNOB. As soon as I walked by somebody on the street coughs. I can't say two days later that I'm negative can I? I'm negative I'm negative in that moment and and a lot of times you don't get the results right away. You GotTa wait a day or two so by that time. I touched too many doorknobs. I have run into too many people. And it's like what is the test even mean at that point. Yeah I think so first of all. You're absolutely right. The test does meet at that moment. You're negative and you could get the moment. We should also be a little clear that the data is emerging that there seems to be a way of getting it Touching a doorknob is pro. Made I won't say you can't get it that way but probably not the main way most of us Who might end up getting it yet? There Being stuck in a car seems to be important being in the same house and interacting with people overtime seems to be important and the third thing is going to a family event. The party or something where you're with other people for two three four hours. That seems to be important. If you're outside in your six feet apart from people unlikely to get it just touching a counter or surfaced not adapt like. You can't get it there. But it's not the main way of Trent Transmission. So transmission is sharing air with someone for a fair amount of time like in a car. That's how this thing gets transmitted. You'll remember Michael you know that they famous case of That new Rochelle a lawyer who was driven by someone in that other person ended up because he was driving to the hospital or to get the test you know ended up getting infected. That's a likely scenario being with someone in your house. Entertaining them in close quarters the same air over three or four hours. That's another way of getting it So that it's important for people to keep that in mind but I think my clorox wiping my tangerines and I asked him to the skin. I'd why am I? Why am I Clark seeing the Tangerine? I don't do that so I'm not sure why anyone does that. I would say the following. We do need to open up the economy. We need to think about how. We're going to open up the economy. We need to recognize that. It's not just one thing. We do right there. Different kinds of businesses abilities to socially distance. So if you think of restaurants were coming up to spring and summer if we serve people outdoors if tables are space six feet apart if the customer actually goes up and picks their meal up off. That's a way that you could safely open restaurants another thing to think about is. You can't get workers back to work in a serious way unless you get their kids in school so we'd have to think about. How do we open up schools? Fortunately we're not trail-blazing here. We can look some places in Germany Denmark is another place that has done it so you can see you know. They bring kids in and stagger times. They have them wash every hour on the hour. They have them play and eat only in certain groups so that they're not creating big mixing they have an opt out policy so parents who think that's too risky out. Because you might have grandma living at home you might have someone who's got diabetes or serious hypertension living at home and if the kid got it got cove and brought it home that would be a serious health threat to those people so we need to be prepared and you start with the youngest kids. They seemed both less susceptible and have less complications if they get it and online learning sucks for them. So you gotta focus gotTa think about this in a strategic way and us all the information. We have to open up as safely as possible. The Chinese the study that was done after. They're they're large bout with it. Showed that nearly seventy percent of those who died contracted the virus from a family member or somebody who was living in the house and is that right so they. They started not sending people home when they tested positive but to these designated hotels dorms or whatever so that they would not infect especially the older people who are living at home yes. That's it would be a good use of how hotels that are sitting idle. And yes we. We need to think about that absolutely. Can I just ask you more when we only have a few minutes left here because you have to get over to MSNBC not going over there are going to beam you there but But I just want to ask you maybe more global question and I'm and I also want to say I spoke to you years ago when you were developing the obamacare and all the important work that was done with that and maybe if you could back on another time I'd like to like I like to on my podcast. Imagine Life Post pandemic so that we start to think a little bit about the vision we have for the way live and a lot of us. Do not want to go back to what we call the old normal. Yes we want to go back to the new. The normal where kids are in school. We can work and all that stuff. But I think we've had a lot of time to think about the way we were living and I would love to talk to you about your new ideas about where we where we take The Affordable Care Act. And how we improve it how we expanded out all those things that I think Have to be done And and your great thinker with this sort of thing. I'd love your input into that so we could do that another another time with absolutely but I think Michael the short answer there is. I don't think coming. Out of covert people are going to put up with a patchwork system. We have where ten percent of the population doesn't have health insurance. I think people are like this is a serious issue. My health depends upon someone else's being able to be healthy And their willingness to get healthcare because it's not going to bankrupt them we need to create a structure where this thing works for all of us. I don't think Bernie Sanders Medicare for all is going to be that. Because I think it's just too politically fraught but we can think about in. And you know Joe Biden said about lowering the Medicare eligibility age. You think about Medicaid for a lot of people you could think about a structure where we take. Parts of Medicare call Medicare advantage where the private insurers run the system at people after that which is now extremely popular expanding that everyone This is a moment. A lot of people are losing their job. Therefore they're losing their health insurance or employer sponsored health insurance. It's a moment where I think. The public is going to demand. We've got a switch off this system. Yom Let's do a better system we can do every. Yeah we are. We have a true safety net. It's not poorest. Ought to people. Don't fall through. We don't have ten percent uninsured. Call.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE
"When we don't have a vaccine You know and what's this weekend? Most of the country most not all but most of the country is going to be partially reopened as they put it. This has gotta drive you crazy level right. I mean this. Aren't you that because it seems from what I've listened to you? What you have said is if we could turn the clock back which we can't but if we could turn it back if we could pretend were New Zealand And if we immediately had done. Two things A mandatory stay at home and tell the people right away that the government is going to guarantee your paycheck for these X. number of months so that we can somehow slow this thing down It it. We can't do that now. So what what is it? That isn't enough. I guess maybe I think the nervousness the anxiety you even hearing my voice is because if doctor Fauci and you and Barack Obama and throw in a few doctor redlener distinct create your your your team of heroes or whatever if you guys were actually running the show. If you were making the decisions you might not always be right. You might make mistakes but I I think all of us would just feel better and then we could handle the truth if you tell us. It's a two year pandemic it or it's this or that or whatever okay Will let's figure out how we're GONNA live and not and not see our country crash NOCCO crazy ourselves in between these four walls But we don't have that we don't have that I had it till next January. I agree and I don't think I think look All the experts say we need more testing. We need more contact. Tracing those are things we need and we need to work on. It were going at breakneck speed on a vaccine. And that's really important to we've got put in place The kind of regulatory framework. We need to get it approved and distributed produced and distributed But I do think that there are many things we can do. I mean as you said It does drive me a little nuts. We HAVE PLACES OPENING UP. Georgia's obviously the textbook example of how not to do it That you know the cases are still going up. Even the president's Pandemic Preparedness Plan for how to open up said you gotTa have fourteen days of decreasing a number of cases. I think that's too liberal a standard but even by that standard Georgia is wrong and then Georgia opens up all these activities. That require intimate personal. Contact you know cutting your hair Going to the beauty salon tattoos which make no sense. They're not essential services And they're things that We could probably do without so you. GotTa understand Better and we need a better plan for getting things started. We can start thinking. Oh we should understand that. This is mortalities heavily concentrated in homes among the elderly and among people with serious co morbid conditions whether it's diabetes hypertension or obesity and we need to do special protections for those people and then you know there are other things where we can assuming some risk. Not totally you know. This isn't GONNA be zero risk assuming we can do better at opening things up And I think that's the direction we need to begin pushing And I I I just don't see that planning and that structure Systematically happening across all saints instead we get you know the CDC has these plans on how to You know these decision trees about how to open up the economy and they get quashed instead of released if you were President of the United States right now and you had the powers. Not Not given to the governor's but the our federally to to declare when we open reopen partially reopened. Or whatever. What would you do or if you were not the president? What would you advise a president who would listen To you and not to the manufacturers Clark's first of all do need to the cash saying system has gotten better but we need to get it really. Well so people can get a task Make sure the SPIT TESTS. Works a ramp it up And then Make sure that we can test as many people as we need. Get a clear testing regime. So that We have people who are at the frontline. Interacting with a lot of people like grocery workers. Healthcare workers homeworkers that. They're a protected. We need to get the serology tests. Not You know. We've we've allowed one hundred and fifty different serology tests out there but only twelve of which have been certified by the FDA. It's like the wild west. You don't know whether the serology test you got actually says what you have antibody or not and so. It's not very informative. It's it's really not helpful. That's not a good process to have is to find out if you if you have had it in the past Monday. Serology czar if you develop. Antibodies The problem is that only twelve of those tests have been certified the other one hundred thirty eight thirty and it doesn't guarantee if you'll say you test positive that you had it. It doesn't guarantee that you have immunity or that you won't get it again or that you can't be effect infected again. Well I wouldn't say we guarantee we don't know. This is an area of uncertainty. We haven't done the studies to be able to evaluate that question. Most of US think you're likely to have immunity. If you have the antibodies. How long it lasts. Another uncertainty But that yes that's still needs to be validated and verified. What what is the what is so. How do you answer people like would you? After Wolf Blitzer sort of turned away from you after he shunned you when you said it was a two year pandemic two feet from him. What was the look on his face when you said that I could just see it on the TV but it being why we cut to a commercial says you just made news. It's like I wasn't trying to make news. I'm trying to inform your audience than that. Were no I know you said it in the way that you would say? It's seventy two and sunny out Was Not you weren't trying to shock anybody you were just. He asked you an honest question. You gave them an honest answer and now now two and a half months later. Is that your same answer? Is it a three year? Pandemic possibly and what does that mean in terms of? Are we going to get the waves? We thought we get if we all social distance correctly. Which now. We're not going to do that as much anymore. So what so? What is this now is going to be waves or is it going to be one long two? We're in trouble sort of thing. Well so there are some people Laurie. Garrett is one of them a very very knowledgeable about this. She thinks it's going to be thirty six months. And you know she may be right three years yes. I don't know how we last three years to be perfectly and but I think How what are the likely scenarios. Well one likely scenario is we have repeated waves. All about the same hiked it comes. It goes it comes. It goes because we open up. And there's a reservoir of Corona viruses that resurfaces Definitely a possibility Possibility which is actually a little more horrific At and one that we clearly want to avoid is re- Had A big wave here. It goes down in the summer Maybe because of some combination of you know the crease because of the heat and humidity and who knows but then it comes roaring back in the fall and you have a second peak. That is higher and worse than the first peak. Now for those of you who are sort of scratching your head. How could anything be worse than what we've had now and let me just remind you? Nineteen eight thousand nine hundred nine thousand nine hundred twenty. There were four peaks to the influenza pandemic at that time and the second peak was far and away the highest double at least doubling the first peak And it came. Yes in the following fall So that I think is probably if you're a epidemiologist and historian that's what makes you really nervous that we haven't even gotten to the worst of the worst of it is coming this coming fall And that I think makes me very very nervous? The third possibility is this is the worst. We're going to have. Echoes as it were of this of ever decreasing peaks Until we get a vaccine. And maybe we'll have to peaks. Maybe we'll have three peaks depending on what that vaccine gets out But they'll be decreasing in the pain will be less. I think those are the three most probable scenarios But this thing has been surprising from the start And none of those are easy. Okay so but where do you okay? So we're the let's say you're you're doctor. I'm in the room with you. Have come into the examination room now. Now I need some bedside my mets. I need your bedside care your best bedside care for me. I'm the American public and I have. I have been locked locked in the apartment with the kids now for two months. And now you're telling me it could be a lot longer than that now. The kids aren't really getting an education.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE
"FM or the anchor APP will get you there This is rumble and Michael Moore and my special guest. Today is Dr Zeke Manual Dr Manual was the chair of the department bioethics at the National Institutes of Health from Nineteen Ninety seven to two thousand eleven I'm sure many of you remember that he was key instrumental in US Getting the what is called the Obamacare Act passed the affordable care act In what was deeply involved with President Obama in trying to For really the first time to have a habit possible that Every American could could be covered and not have to worry about going to the doctor Currently a doctor manuals the vice provost of a global initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania. And on lately you've probably seen a lot on TV He's the Co Host of the Endeavour. A podcast called making the call. He has now. I I think once a week I think it's on Friday nights. He has been on Either with Ali belchior Lawrence O'Donnell on a series Called a life during the time of the corona virus and And instead of having to talk in sound bites or whenever we get a full hour As to what we're all going through this has been helpful Dr Manual also co edited. The new book The trillion dollar revolution. How the Affordable Care Act transformed politics law and healthcare in America? Dr Manual Zeke. Welcome to my podcast. Great to be here. Thank you Michael. For having me I saw you on Wolf Blitzer actually on the MSNBC competing network at the very beginning of this And I talked about this on my podcast and Wolf asked you a question the question everybody sure asks you every day. How long is this going to last? Once it's going to be over. We want this over with now. And I'm in day sixty of my own self imposed Quarantine in my apartment. So I went out like everybody else but when he asked you that question. I believe this is this was maybe and February could have been might have been the beginning of March and you said just very nonchalantly to him but very direct very with the doctor's voice when he said. How long is this going to last? And you said while I believe this could be a two year pandemic. Those were your words. Two Year Pandemic Wolf. Who is usually a fairly sedate person? Goes what it was like. Are you kidding me? And you then answered it and I'm GonNa let you answered here for the people Listen to this but I have to say man. He went right off from you to the other person never came back to the fact that you had just said this could possibly last for two. And you try to explain that it's GonNa be a wave that doesn't mean we're imprisoned for two years necessarily but I just WANNA start there because they never came back to you. I would like you to explain because you were the first person. As far as I was concerned I was watching a lot of the news channels. Then who just just came out and said the uncomfortable inconvenient truth and It turned my head around and I didn't depress me. I didn't think Oh. All Hope is lost. I started thinking. Oh Oh that's okay now. Somebody has said what we're dealing with. Now we can start to figure out how to deal with it so I turn it over to you to explain what you meant when you shocked at least me if not the rest of. Everybody was watching. Cnn a day when you said this could possibly be two year pandemic. Well there's only two ways of getting out of a situation where you have very infectious at potentially lethal virus. One issue get enough herd immunity in the community And the country so that the arnauts however many people get spread to goes down below one Which means that. The virus basically dies out. And you don't get spread of virus. That'll require sixty seventy eighty percent of the population to have been immune to the virus. That's going to take time Our you know call it. Two and a half months into covert nine thousand nine hundred maybe three months into cove in nineteen and even on the best estimates were have maybe ten million people twelve million people in America in fact it that is three percent of the population. That's far from seventy eighty ninety percent of the population And so it'll take us a long time to get that kind of heard immunity the other kind of immunity. You can get is if you have a vaccine And then you can distribute it Sixty seventy eighty percent of the population And that if you play out How long it's GonNa take us to get a vaccine. You know you're out in somewhere fall. Twenty twenty one and that as everyone who comments on this who's responsible and comments on the says if everything goes perfectly and the last time we went perk perfectly in drug development vaccine development was never you know there's always always some hitch. That comes after something unexpected. You know you tested out in a few hundred people and maybe you get to a few thousand people in something. Unexpected happens so if you just you know we have rushed it. We were already in humans. I you know So God bless them. Wow Yeah I mean so we're out there and we're testing. What's called phase one? That's the safety testing now. What's interesting is that some of these axes that we've put into people already haven't even put into animals now that's on the hypothesis that they're very safe and they probably are very safe But then you've got to test them in you've gotta give the body a chance to react and see if there any side effects. That doesn't happen overnight. Then you have to look at that date and make sure that we're protecting people you know. See if there's anything serious comes up then you have to have enough to distribute To people you know the tests The number of tests Needed for an evaluation of whether this is effective at preventing Cova. Ninety Nine. I've you know eight to twenty thousand people. Well that's GonNa take time to enroll them and then you have to wait for them to develop antibodies and see if they're protected from getting an infection from covert so they need to be exposed to covert and that's going to take time So you know even if we ramp up production of this vaccine. Not knowing whether it's going to work on the promise that it's GonNa Work. We're still talking Sometime in two twenty one when we're going to have enough data to know whether this thing works well enough to distribute it to people and has a good enough safety profile. Now you're not gonNA immediately have three hundred million doses three hundred and thirty million doses for everyone in the population right. That's GONNA take time. And I've talked to officials at Johnson and Johnson and they think by the end of twenty twenty one they'll have could have a billion doses. You have to manufacture them. You have to distribute them to and they have to administer them into people and again. None of that happens overnight. It takes time which is why I think we're talking about at the earliest. If everything goes perfectly fall twenty twenty one more likely you know early. Twenty twenty two but that. That's so that's the timeline. And it's very hard to compress at time. I much further than we've compressing and that's if everything goes right. Exactly you said doesn't happen so I mean it's this is what and this is why I really wanted to talk to you because really I know you and I know that you are a Truth Teller. And you're you're the doctor we all. Everybody wants to have that kind of doctor. Just Gimme the truth. Don't sugarcoat it. Don't try to if I cry. I cry but I. I'm better off with knowledge than than sending me home with hope. I don't want hope I wanNA know. What can I do to live? You've just give me some bad news. What am I going to do to live? And am I just when we talk about this vaccine and you say like this has never happened in this kind of speed and in this fashion I I ask. We're how's The vaccine for malaria? Coming House the House. That's why I've been working on that for seven years My Dad had GI fever. World War Two. He's in the South Pacific. The Marines. I'll house the vaccine for that coming house. The vaccine coming for I mean. Just go down the list of I H H. We don't have a vaccine now. We have treatment and and fortunately less people have died now as a result of that. Thank God but We don't have a vaccine for that. We don't have a vaccine for the common cold. How many years of doctors and scientists been trying to just stop the common cold? It doesn't exist so I just think that I don't believe in giving people false hope. I believe in realistic. Hope but not promising something that we cannot absolutely Garrett. Well not only am. It doesn't have to be absolutely that we can reasonably guarantee that. We're going to have this vaccine in everybody's waiting for this and what I the discussion. I WANNA have with people as well. What if that doesn't happen? What if this like malaria that we've never been able to come up with a vaccine for what is it? What are we going to do? What is the plan and and we need more of you and more people like you just saying things not the things that we want to hear. I mean I don't know what I mean. I don't maybe your wife had through on broadcast. Or whatever says to Zeke. You could've tamped down a little bit. You Look I think. Part of the problem is you have to give people a structure and a planning. If it's going to be hard. They need to know it's hard you know. I always. I apologize to sitting on an airplane. What do I want the pilot to tell me? You know we're going to be moving in a minute and then thirty minutes later. We're not moving. No feel pissed off at that on the other hand. If the pilot tells me you know we've got this situation. It's probably going to be twenty minutes. I'll get back to you in twenty minutes and update with what's happening. That's what you WanNa hear and that allows you to plan your life. It allows you to make clear it allows you to make certain in the case of covert demands on the politicians as to how to help you how to help businesses through this And so I think that's what people really want in this idea that I actually chloroquine it's going to carry it or the summer's coming. It just GONNA magically disappear. I think that's quite difficult for people because I know it's not true. And then it's hard to figure out what is true I can't trust this person that they keep telling me stuff. That doesn't seem quite right. So I I do think that there's a value in understanding the timelines and being able to plan for all of us are plan for it also gives us an understanding. Well what can we do between now and then to get parts of the economy going? You know what? How much risks are we going to be willing to take in this.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE
"I remember I was trying to finish Roger me. My first film I was broke was on unemployment. I mean I didn't have anything really and I didn't know I was going to finish the film and there's no way really didn't get it done. And they're both in the kitchen kitchen so we have something for you and they pulled check from their checkbook for two thousand dollars. My Dad at this point is retired from the factory assembly line. So He's just on on retirement My Mom My mom is a year away from retirement and working again as a clerk township office that any money that I didn't know where they are like. Where did you get two thousand dollars? Well we we have some savings And we want you to take this and use this to finish. Sean course I need like you know twenty or thirty thousand dollars to finish it. I didn't think I was going to be able to finish and I was so moved by this night. Refused to take it and they would not let me and we went back and forth. Finally I said okay. I'll take it Over the years. I've met a lot of filmmakers who went to good. Schools came from families that had money. And you know their parents help them which is a wonderful thing And help them with more than two thousand dollars but For them for that. Two thousand dollars to them was I. Give me two hundred thousand dollars and I I'd never taken any money from them as an adult I never he had I'd probably stayed. I probably stayed at home by the time moved out. You know. Back then millennials. Soon you know we. We left home sometimes on our eighteenth birthday. Oh I stayed a little bit longer but But I never I took care of myself. I got my own jobs in my own work and I did. I did was fine. I didn't either money but This was very very moving and it did help me. Great deal when I had nothing. My mom got the live to see Most of most of my at least half my career there with my first films She got to see Bowling for columbine she got to watch. This was back when carried the canned film festival on one of the cable channels and She and my dad got to watch the ceremony where we won an award for Bowling for Columbine Camp Film Festival and She died about six weeks after that but I was always happy that she got to sell thrilled with us. Especially gave my acceptance speech in French or some call. It French but It was all it was all good. My friends and when this day comes along every year now it's a little. It's a little bitter sweet but I thought today a good way to to to acknowledge it would be to embrace it to To tell you to share with you some of these things about my mother. God I wish this was Some kind of massive zoom could do today where you would all be here even if that visually just audio wise like the like if there were one hundred speakers in this room in each had your own speaker and you could tell me a few minutes about your mother happy so cool grownup hard. Being appearance hard As we get older were very forgiving of a lot of things but also very very grateful for things that maybe we didn't realize at the time and that's how I feel. I feel that today and I feel that really every day and I'm not a week goes by where I don't think my mom or dad in some way Where I wish that they were here. I'm glad they're not alive now during this thing that we're going through. I'm glad that they did not live to see trump elected Or what he has done to this country they loved so much on my God. If this would have been their final years this is they would go out of this life thinking that this is what got left behind. How many of you probably had that situation happened to you right. They left this world probably just in sheer utter sadness and horror that their children and grandchildren. We're going to have to deal with this while we are going to deal with it. We are dealing with it and we will deal with this year twenty twenty. Thanks for letting me share. All of this with you. Much of WHO I am is because my mother and my father and the people that came before them And much of who I am is as a result the life that I've created as an adult and The people in my life in you know who you are. If you're listening to this I am forever grateful for that. I hope I could have been one tenth of what my parents were to me. I hope I've been that to you and And to those of you Who I know only through this Or through the fact that you have been fans of my work over the years. I'm eternally grateful for that and I'm glad that you keep giving me a chance to say and show things that are sometimes difficult to listen to and to see. You know why I'm doing it. It's not obviously done with any sense of wanting you to feel bad or to cause You have any sense of Harm I'm trying to undo the harm and I'm doing the best I can with So far so good. That's that's my assessment of it and and I have a robust conscience that I answered to on a daily basis. That's a good thing. And that's the thing I was given to from my mom and my dad. Happy Mother's Day Thank you for everything. Thank all of you and thank you to hear mothers for helping to make you who you are with this together. You know that and we'll come out of this together to and I really do believe we will create something different. We will not go back to the old normal. We will have the new normal and it will. It will be better and we already know the ways that it needs to be better and we're going to make that happen. Enjoy the day wherever you are and On Tomorrow's podcast my guess will be. Dr Ezekiel Emanuel This is you've probably seen him on television. He was the head of the Bioethics Department at the National Institute of Health for almost fourteen years And he has been one of the leading voices of truth about or really going through and he will be my guest tomorrow And we're going get into some things and some things are going to be said you haven't heard and you're going to hear them a tomorrow so please tune in to that next episode which I believe will be episode. Seventy eight This is episode seventy.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on Power 105.1 FM
"Envy Angela yee Charlamagne the god we are the breakfast club dash out to Dr Emmanuel for joining us this morning yes thank you to Dr Ezekiel Emanuel I mean listen man the corona virus is is changing every day is new information coming up coming out about it every day and I just think people need to be updated every day all on on all the new changes that's happening with the coronavirus I just don't I just is bugged me I'm out of all people to say they really don't know and that's why I like god like Dr Ezekiel Emanuel because he was like everything is always changing my people are giving people say things like I said oh well you know you're saying the buyer can go thirteen feet no virus can go thirteen feet it said no virus right it brings the Volvo would dial is the new virus is something you've never seen before so I don't think anything should be dismissed when it comes in all right and also shout to my brother Matt for check in and met the mortgage guy he's got so many people mortgages he works for a bank and he was able to break down things that you should be looking for in doing when it comes to your mortgage refinancing what you should be looking for a different loans to shout to him for joining us this morning as well now selling yes Sir you got a positive note yes man I want to tell everybody out there you can't live a positive life with a negative mind I want you to sit back and think about this think about making your life a masterpiece okay imagine no limitations on what you can be have or do on.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on Power 105.1 FM
"Will pop out on the ad what day does come it's really gonna be on my goodness all right well that is your front page news now we come back we have Dr Emmanuel joining us explain to people Dr Emmanuel is showing Dr Ezekiel Emanuel man he's actually a very interesting person and it just dawned on me that that is Rahm Emanuel former manager cargo around the menu and a Hollywood agent ari Emanuel's brother and I mean that these the kill Manya we was on our email to show together then you know Dr Ezekiel he he advises Joe Biden and a few others very well renowned doctor so he's somebody that we can we can talk to in this ever changing you know coronavirus episode that we're in with things changing every day is always new information I just feel like it's good to have these medical professionals on as much as we can to to give to people up to date all right well we'll talk to him when we come back said movies the breakfast club the morning breakfast here's the latest New York coronavirus update from the seven ten W. a Y. newsroom former mayor Michael Bloomberg has been put in charge of New York's tracing program the goal is to prevent the spread by tracking down everyone who came in contact with an infected patient governor Murphy slamming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell after McConnell suggested letting some states go bankrupt come on man that is completely and utterly irresponsible mayor blossom reporting real progress he says I see you admissions in the city are down stay tuned for more on corona virus from I heart radio New York.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
"Reopen tomorrow doctors in California will begin scheduling nonessential surgeries governor Gavin Newsom we are in a position to begin to pull back and lean in by beginning to schedule surgeries once again throughout not only our hospital system but our broader health care delivery system the house is expected to approve a new relief bill today to help small businesses minority leader Kevin McCarthy we got some real challenges out there but as I said there's a more than a hundred and fifty billion dollars still brings out set on it's going to go out to the states by the twenty fourth so there's more money going to the states right now CBS news update I'm Deborah Rodriguez you're listening to news radio nine fifty W. W. JT is time is six thirty two Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer says she will likely extend her stay at home order beyond April thirtieth even if she relaxes restrictions to re open parts of the economy the governor says she hopes to talk more tomorrow about loosening the rules she also said there will be fun some form of a stay at home order in effect for a long time she said people who are especially vulnerable people with COPD people who are over the age of sixty five she says are going to have to continue to stay at home her administration notified state employees of temporary layoffs necessitated by drop in tax revenues due to the pandemic the status for allowing twenty nine hundred or about six percent of its roughly forty eight thousand workers for two weeks to save about five million dollars as many other local governments are in Oakland county is bracing for a major budget shortfalls at the corona virus outbreak continues Oakland county executive Dave Coulter warned county commissioners yesterday that deeper cuts could be on the way following the passage of an almost seventeen million dollar you merge into fun package to purchase covert nineteen tests and personal protection equipment should we start re opening American businesses and the economy and society now where should we wait The New York Times says that question is not only dividing the nation but it's dividing families former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel says it's unthinkable to keep most of the country closed until the virus is under control he says there's nothing you can do that is risk free he says the public understands that life comes with peril his brother Dr Ezekiel Emanuel says the pandemic is too much of a threat to rush back to life as usual the labor department will be releasing the weekly unemployment report at eight thirty this morning last week five point five point two million people applied for unemployment benefits CBS news business analyst Jill Schlesinger says economists expect three to five million people will file which could mean twenty five million people will be looking for jobs some people are wondering what it's going to mean when the massive influx of unemployed people try to actually find a job at the worst of the Great Recession there were six and a half unemployed job seekers for every job opening that number could be at least ten unemployed jobseekers this time around locally will have the latest Michigan numbers as they become available since the corona virus outbreak began more than one million people statewide across Michigan have filed first time jobless claims the U. S. house scheduled a vote this morning on an interim corona virus released a fail hundred eighty billion dollar package includes more money for the paycheck protection programs state and local governments and health care first responders house minority leader Kevin McCarthy we have provided more than five hundred billion dollars.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on NewsRadio 1020 KDKA
"I want my bailout money you know sometimes even when it's a very serious situation this is the way folks in the military always dealt with it read about an old salt don I think he's on the line now and the keys for it sent me this in light of current events civilians now have an idea of what it's really like to be in the military and again this is not to make light of this very serious situation but for all of you who say thank you for your service listen to this this is what Israel like to be in the military the daughter of papers always gong being told how to do the simplest things over and over ordered around by numbers and sizes the group's watching others panic getting custom orders from up the chain there are always changing always being shown maps that mean nothing getting information that is always an operational period to even the leadership doesn't know what they're doing of being told what to do on your own free time standin N. lance all the time carrying around a mask all the time this is what is like to be in the military your weekend plans are revoked your favorite bars off limits being unlocked the download to your quarters always under curfew and always having travel restrictions that was sent to me by an old salt a navy guy named don from the keys would die I read that down I had to laugh out loud maybe the civilian population to get a taste of what it's like man well Chris and I hope they do and and ask to dar es as example of the dark humor yeah we had over back in our day and you know couple things I remembered vividly problem my bill of money but I don't want those APC's that they gave us over there the money that was worth we might use that as the the Sherman MPC's right and I just had monopoly money as we used to call it let it bags full of it and you know how many of the veterans they listen to you they might remember that yellow shock card that we got they they should never lose your shot Curtis you'll never get out of here yeah they shot us with that into guns in both arms Hey Chris many of us hung around to do street in Saigon is somewhere in Subic Bay in the Philippines were okay still yet I never went down there myself I am what about friends told me how it was hello I have read it told me what it was like yeah exactly what Chris I appreciate it you know you let me on today and and again clearly not making light of the situation that we're in but these people understand the situations that we were in probably were somewhat worse than this and we had that dark humor we we found something that cracks on another Gee I will answer was laugh about something or or you know just to break the ice a little bit and keep retention down I think we need some of that today you know I I know exactly what you're talking about in the face of you know rocket attacks friends dying and other things that you ended up making jokes about it because it was only one way to get from one day to another maybe some of our other veterans know that what was that other thing you sent me today about coming down the ladder to check in to see if you had a I'm all and everything else zero no no I was just doing a buddy check with your buddy check yeah buddy check out check your ammo changer socks no don't like those cigarettes let's smoke em if you got them we had Salem's and goals for twenty five cents a pack indeed you and got your smoke peas other fees you don't have borrowed from the squad leader right that's right that's right yeah all right well I appreciate you bringing a smile to my face and even in the face of something as serious as this outbreak okay you better if you keep up the good work my friend all right thank you yeah hi we'll move the show started in open talk there I said everybody who called in the last segment when dean was here I'll give special dispensation to call back again if you want to here's our number it is eight six six three nine one ten twenty that's eight six six three nine one ten twenty here's some things I think gas would like to talk about this open talk to go all the way to nine o'clock tonight you know everyone who's against socialism all of a sudden because of the corona virus pandemic that seems to be for it people whose views are as far apart as Republican Tom cotton senator from my home state of Arkansas and the OCS the liberal congressman we just heard at the top of the news telling all of her young friends not to go out in public and gather together because they're going to bring the corona virus back home we kill the grandparents the people as far apart on the political spectrum is that the liberal congresswoman from New York in the senator from Arkansas are proposing giving American workers at least a thousand dollars a piece and I have very socialism I don't know what is and soul of all of you against it when we talk about it with Bernie Sanders and his platform now all of a sudden now because your livelihoods are in danger you for it a Hey Joe Biden announced that Dr Ezekiel Emanuel is is advise on the corona virus yeah that Zeke Emanuel he's brother actually cargo bay and one time presidential chief of staff Rahm Emanuel who is an adviser to the previous administration on healthcare Dr Ezekiel dog disease Jeff is that individuals above a certain age be essentially cut off from medical services in I guess S. triage huh I wanted to A. R. P. crowd will endorse Joe well behind all of that and Joel maybe with the brain aneurysms use seven do you realize you're over the cut off age your own health advisors will cut you off be careful you select for vice president all right I got a ton of other things that I want to talk about but those are just a couple we can start right now with what you want to talk about eight six six three nine one ten twenty let's go to the phones and we'll go all the way to California run in Hamilton feels you don't get to gate thank you and your last this broader thought to me we're talking about the government financing which socialism if you will of of the people also have medical studies and so forth number he mentioned one company I do remember they invested a lot in HIV and HIV treatment that was given to you with similar to the virus we have now because it was a symptomatic that would be a symptomatic incubation term before H. and for a healthy kid a fifteen they could go to twenty five years old before they had absolutely important for testing that's that's why today testing is important for those as we get past those who were ill to see if we have carriers out there so I think that's an important issue to focus on the what what I originally had to what was to talk about and ask about this vaping situation which was designed to reach a market of children and from the onset and whether we are not that's going to cost us in years health care costs that are still in the dorm and asymptomatic stage for the majority of users which is between mid and high school students over twenty five percent of our kids are already affected now is that criminals to understand that you can you're going to get to market you can sell in portions because when you use the product it creates a hired to lead a degree of toxins what do you think so on the basis of it it might be criminal but it's not what yeah I mean for the standard of rule of law if you could evidence that they knew what they were doing from the beginning the new year got a product when they put the product out they put chemicals in it work we're warmer toxicants but it didn't tell you enter the market into use that when those chemicals receded they created other chemicals which were highly toxic these people knew what they were doing from the onset they copied the film are companies that marking sugar flavored drinks and that too flavored vaping products they knew it and that same company that they copied gave them over twelve billion dollars which is now in the market place reduce great deal but it's still this criminal intent there somewhere no I think you're right but pruning in there according to the letter of the law would be the difficult part I think that they knew what they were doing I think you do you're exactly right it was that designed to get people addicted to the vaping with the sweet flavors and the sweet alcohol drinks the same thing can you prove that that's illegal by be the hard part because you'd have to prove that they knew it all the time and that was their intent all right we'll take this break we'll come back with more of your calls your source for official traffic information on newsradio KDKA here's the thing about new cherry vanilla coke though cherries named first all the flavors tastes just as great I mean it could have just as easily been vanilla cherry coke or it could have been coke cherry vanilla and since it's too amazing flavors of coke it might have been cold vanilla cherry coke or cherry vanilla coke coke unless you're in France which would make it a cocktail of an Iowa Democrat a Democrat.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Thread available on apple podcasts it's here now medical experts are saying the worst on corona virus is yet to come and according to projections by Dr Ezekiel Emanuel millions of people will need medical help but he says there simply aren't enough hospital and intensive care beds or ventilators in the U. S. to treat the people who might need them and that's why New York state governor Andrew Cuomo is calling for the army corps of engineers to retrofit military bases and college dorms for temporary medical facilities one New York hospital CEO joins us to talk about what they're doing Michael Dowling is president and CEO of New York state's largest health care provider at Northwell health and former New York state health secretary welcome Michael thank you so much got to be on thank you so much tell us are your twenty three hospitals ready yes we're pretty well prepared that we have been organizing for this for a long time we have reached out to all of the retired doctors and all of the retired nurses and people have actually been writing to me volunteering to come back so we've reached out to all of them now obviously this is going to get worse over the next month or two I believe that is going to accelerate so do we have to intensify our efforts and make sure that we have the staff and the capacity in the supplies to deal with it and I'm pretty comfortable with all that for the overall back that we are in pretty good position here okay I I hear you on that but last week I spoke with two Italian doctors who shared how their hospitals are overflowing and we've seen reports where patients are treated based on whether they survive what are you most worried about for me that it's the the the biggest issue and I think all of this can be overcome I happen to be somebody that believes that you have to look at the bright side of things rather than always the negative because the negative on if only feeds anxiety you have to make sure that you have the staff available because staff do get infected and his staff people come in contact with somebody it is infected then to have to go on and be quarantined for a period of time so you have to manage does very very well and then obviously the supplies I mean that that that they have masks the gloves the columns the vans and if you have a huge spike hi we are doing everything at the moment to enhance our supplies our or our inventory of all of those supplies and if those things happen the way I believe it will happen I think I didn't think that we'd be in a I know a pretty good position but we always have to be prepared of course was something to spike beyond what I think it might happen then we will have to adapt and be flexible on Friday you and the governor opened the first drive through testing site on the east coast how is that testing going that testing is going very very well and it's restarted on Fridays you mentioned and it's it's it's operating successfully we will be opening I believe all those those some of those are in the planning stages right now but that allows people to drive and I don't have to get out of their cars I when I was there on Friday you know what they look like ten sixteen cars in a line and it was very very quickly the last waltz onto the windows of the car and so it's a it's a quick process and obviously the more your test I have the more you're able to isolate the more you're able to treat and as you know we're only testing those people that are out of sync and those people that have been in contact with somebody that has a confirmed case of course the more your taste the more cases you're going to find and that's what's going to drive despite you mentioned earlier that you feel optimistic you think that will make it through this crisis all right thank you still feel yeah you're still feeling as confident as you were on Friday I yes because you know it went with we we're faced with these issues all the time I mean we had the ball we had H. one N. one we have on occasion sandy and you know you've got to make sure that your staff that are working on the front lines all the time and that that demonstrate unbelievable compassion and commitment here back there they they they see that that that work isn't valued and that we are going to defeat this issue it may be a rough couple of months and as I said many times it's not what happens to you that matters is how you respond to it and health care organizations are very adaptable and and that that very resilient and what do the one thing I believe that add this whole event demonstrates for us as a country is that we have to build rebuild opponents are public health infrastructure we have a modest impact overall lives we should have been nationally and I think when this is all for I believe that should be done is to be an investment arena strengthening an acceleration of investment in the research in public health infrastructure and the staffing of the CDC in the US and the inventor increasing the inventories of supplies and also in our in our store houses around the place and those are the kinds of things we've got to be focusing on because after this is all for I some point in the future there will be another one and so we have to learn the lessons of this one and while I do believe we will succeed here I do believe it teaches us a lesson about how to be better prepared overall as a country for the next one because that will be such a case that's Michael Dowling he's president and CEO of New York state's largest health care provider Northwell health and former New York state health secretary Mr Darling thank you so much for joining us thank you very very much older adults are the most vulnerable to infection from corona virus and while attention is focused on the deaths in nursing homes the vast majority of older adults live independently in fact more than a million live in affordable housing regulated by the federal government and the owners of those buildings say at the department of housing and urban development has provided almost no guidance on protecting their vulnerable tenants NPR's aina Jaffe reports eighty year old Margie Ramirez moved into Bethany center in San Francisco's mission district on July fourth twenty eleven and she's been busy ever since on Tuesday it's how Latin exercise class and they do a little hip hop there are art classes on Wednesday and Thursday and another one on Friday we were working on portraits the last time I went but that life has come to a screeching halt group activities have been canceled says Ramirez replaced by isolation with this virus going on I kind of stay up in my room I find things to do I read or watch TV or on the computer or you know I mean after a couple of weeks it probably is going to be harder beyond basic advice like hand washing and social distancing she says no one has talked to her about what would happen if one of her neighbors fell ill or if they were quarantines in the building that may be because the building owners haven't been told either that absolutely should be coming from Hyde says merriment Molland spokeswoman for coffee at the owner of six buildings offering affordable housing for seniors HUD is responsible she says because while the affordable buildings are owned by non profits like via it's hard that regulates them and puts the bill heard should be advising us where we would be able to get things like additional supplies for cleaning or emergency funding if we needed additional staff or how we manage visitors coming to our communities the because while the residents in these buildings live independently they receive support of services in their homes like so many other older adults hospice nurses come in home health providers come in and we really need to head to let us know how we can manage a situation.
Are we doing enough to prevent the spread of COVID-19?
"Joined by. Dr Ezekiel Emanuel former Obama. White House Health Policy Advisor. He's Vice Provost Global Initiatives University of Pennsylvania and Dr Peter Hotels Dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine Doctor Manual. When we start with you. Where do you see us right now? Are we doing enough in terms of large scale social disruption and changes to slow the transmission of this epidemic? So first of all. I've been saying for several weeks now that it's going to get worse before it gets better. Parsley it's GonNa get worse because we have testing. That's just going to show us how prevalent the illness is. It's also getting worse because we know we have more community acquired infections as I mentioned to someone today. You know one week ago. We weren't even talking about new Rochelle and now new. Rochelle is a major topic in New York. And that's a lockdown and if we focus on new Rochelle without thinking about all the other places that this virus is maybe Washington. Dc maybe the suburbs of Baltimore. Who knows where the problem is? We need a more systematic less uneven response. That has to be pretty uniform. Because just 'cause we're seeing it new Rochelle doesn't mean Rochelle's the only place in New York that Scott and that response does have to include things like much more prevalent testing so we really have a handle on who's got it and who doesn't and a really good model is South Korea if you look at their trends you can see that. They're beginning to bend in South Korea. We also do need to inform people. We use the term social distancing like everyone knows what it means. It's not immediately obvious to people what that entails and how much you need to be separate from people explain to what should people know about but a large part of it. You people have come up with all these numbers no more than one hundred people to meet no more. The issue is density. How close are you to people? How easy is it for the droplets to spread? How much are you sort of packed in light sardines or not and that real? I mean that's a physical thing That is really important and I do think we probably need to educate people to minimize the. They're our contact and to stay home more. You can go out where there's no one else if you're going walking in the woods or something or going to a place where there are other people But I do think Restricting how we move around is going to be important I will note that not every but most of the Ivy League schools now for example colleges mine included. We're going online. The second half of the semester is all going to be online. Students aren't going to be in. Dormitories accepts students. That can go back to their home country and still complete the semester. So you are seeing a lot of action. But it's not concerted and that's what it's not systematic and that's what's bothering me Dr Hotels. We've been checking with you throughout the unfolding of the goal pandemic and I'm curious. Are we learning more about the virus itself about the basics about the transmission rate? Which seems to be maybe lower than at first. We thought the fatality rate the incubation period. Where is our knowledge right now about this so the transmission rate still seems to be? Pretty High Dr Fao. She mentioned. It's probably a significantly higher than the influenza as well as the mortality rate. But the you know just to echo and reinforce some of the things zeke Doctor Emmanuel was was saying we've learned a few things from a recent analysis. My colleague Mark Lipchitz sit at Harvard School of Public Health Chan School of Public Health together with a student a doctoral student. Ruan Lee didn't analysis of the Chinese cities in terms of how severe the epidemic is with the extreme example being Wuhan rare nine thousand people wound up in and severely ill with two thousand in the ICU versus city. Like Long Joe where there was only twenty a big difference right and it looked like it's primarily to do to how quickly you got on top of things after sustained community transmission started. So they let it go for six weeks. Before they implemented aggressive control and testing whereas in Guangzhou were the only at twenty cases one week. What's the lesson learned from the United States We're now about three weeks into this in terms of sustained community transmission. We had our first case of community transmission around the end of April so subtract a week before then. So we're getting to the point where because we're not doing adequate diagnostic testing and implementing those very important control measures. That seek pointed out. We're in a situation. Where we could risk being closer to Wuhan and Guangzhou and and we do we. We can't be there so now is a very critical period over the next couple of weeks where we have to be very aggressive about closing down major venues. We just this Houston. Today with the Rodeo was a tough decision but was the right decision that we're going to have to do this all over the country right now and the reason is this because if we miss that opportunity we then have. Our new problem becomes surge capacity hospitals. Where we're not gonNA have enough beds. We're not GONNA have enough into ventilators. We don't want to go in that direction. So now's now czar. Big Schnauzer going to be our last chance. We've already missed that in over the last few weeks. Can I reemphasize something? Peter says which is so in the entire United States. We have about eight hundred thousand hospital beds a little under eight hundred thousand hospital beds. In the entire United States we have under seventy thousand adult intensive care unit. Beds we have about sixty five thousand ventilators with the strategic supply. I've heard that it goes up slightly under one hundred thousand. That's our maximum capacity in the country at the moment if you imagine that even two percent of the population gets the corona virus and we have about six percent who are seriously. Ill GonNa need a respirator. We've exhausted all that supply. Just for those patients. Forget the heart attack patients. Forget the patients who need it for any other reason and I think what Peter said is exactly right we probably have missed two or three turns over the last few weeks where we could have gotten things down and just focusing on the hot spots. Seattle New Rochelle. I think is not. We need a much more systematic countrywide approach so that we don't overwhelm the healthcare system. Which already you know doesn't have that much search capacity in it. Dr Hotels Final Point to you for people that are watching this I. I've struggled with this for the last three weeks right. Communicating in a way that does not induce catastrophe or panic but also is clear eyed about the risks. And I do think it's worth just going back to the distinction between your individual risk you random American one of three hundred thirty million that you will get very sick and need to be hospitalized or may as life threatening illnesses that individual risk for any given random person is probably low in the grand scheme of things and this systemic risk to the society and to the healthcare system which is extremely high at this moment. Is that a fair way of phrasing. It yeah absolutely and also remember. It's it's all about communicating. What our top priorities are in. This is what I've been disappointed about. We've lost a lot of time because of a blanket statements that are not backed by data saying this is contained. This is this is the cold. This is the flu when in fact we know that there are specific groups that are at high risk including older older individuals those with underlying disabilities and our healthcare workers. And so what I've been looking for is at the White House. Press briefings to say. Look these are four. Bit Concerns Right. These are three or four populations That were concerned about This is a why we need to get on top of this very quickly. And here's what we're doing about it and and historically the American people have responded very well to this They understood this three. Bola Zeka as we say. This is not our first Rodeo so so we know how to respond and we just need that clear kind of concise messaging right now. All right. Just had one thing to Chris. Point which is we also do know the ass for any individual. The risk is low except we do know that there are certain people and Peter Emphasize of those who are over sixty or sixty five those who have chronic illness. They are at high risk and what we have done in. This country is aggregate them in nursing homes. Those are most vulnerable people people in nursing and we really have to social distance. There reduced the number of visitors. Probably two zero. Make sure that people are counting up and taking a donning protective equipment so that we don't have that Patriot play just explode with corona virus like it did in Seattle because almost every one of them is really on the verge just like the cruise ships. Good Point -portant point Zeki Manual. Dr Peter Hotels. Thank you
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on 860AM The Answer
"Car. The resolution condemning Israel to boycott divest sanction resolution. Thank you, all those polls. The Democrats socialists of America. Of which Alexandria across your Cortes is a member Ray is in San Bernardino, California. Ray you're on the Larry elder show. Thank you so much for calling. Great. Greetings. So, you know, hard core brass tacks reality. What would it take? Or why wouldn't you? Go ahead and get I don't I don't think it's because you hear it would be waste your time. And you couldn't get elected. I think we're past that, I think it's a doable thing. Well, Ray, I appreciate the confidence. You have in me. I appreciate the feeling that you feel that. I could I could win why to run for president. I got to tell you something. Maybe I haven't told you this before my friend, professor Tim grows flows who teaches now at George Mason used to teach at UCLA and before the two thousand sixteen race occurred. Well before he called me to his house. I didn't know what the meeting was about. And he had all these charts and reports and told me I should run for president. And then I could win. I said I couldn't run for Senate in California and get elected. He said, yeah. But you get in the country. Here's why he talked about the possibility that a a working class approach could even win states like Pennsylvania, like Michigan, Wisconsin. And I said are you serious? And I'm telling you the formula that he outlined for larryelder to become president is exactly what. President Trump followed. He did not foreclose state like Michigan did not foreclose states like Wisconsin. The so called blue wall that intimidated, so many Republicans from relief seriously campaigning. He didn't do that. And professor close close felt that there was a great deal of dissatisfaction in the country because of Obama's policies and that somebody with a business oriented policy who believe in low taxes. Could win. Who believe in doing something about illegal immigration could win? And I said somebody who's never even run for office before. And he said, yes. Well, President Trump never ran for office before. Oh, the difference is I think he had about three billion dollars more than I have. Anyway, thank you very much for that. I really do. Appreciate it. Now getting back to Howard Schultz. Howard Schultz is not running as a democrat because Alexandria or Cortez's policies. One of which is Medicare for all Dr Ezekiel Emanuel with one of the founders of ObamaCare, and he claims Medicare for all wooden costs anymore than our current healthcare spending. These campaign promises about Medicare for all are they in your belief deliverable by these candidates. Shall there is a Medicare for all that is deliver a ball? And that's not a huge decks to use the part of Medicare that uses private insurance companies Medicare Part C or Medicare Advantage and people an increasing number of elderly actually liked that proposal they the government page the premium to a private insurance company and people select which private insurance company. They want isn't Medicare already underfunded. A lot of people are imagining. Well, you could have that system keep some role for the private insurance company and let people choose between five and insurance company and the government program as a sort of public option, and that actually looks I think politically more feasible. I believe that if Iran as a democrat, I would have to say things that I know in my heart. I do not believe, and I would have to be disingenuous for example. What the progressive left leaning Democratic Party is suggesting is government paid health care for everyone. Which is free government job free for everyone and government paid college for everyone. I was a supporter and Amazon supporter of the Affordable Care Act, which I think can be improved and enhanced so that the premiums come down for families. But if you tally up those three programs over a ten year period, it's approximately forty trillion dollars. But but he's Zeke Emanuel says it wouldn't be any more expensive than the current system that we have right now. So why not do it? Meg said this about relief factor. I've been using relief factor for a little bit over a month. Thirty four year old woman that has been in a car accident, I suffered from severe neck pain shooting pain, down my arms and legs would often cause me to lend at one point. I was going.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on PBS NewsHour
"Even as senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is move to delay a vote on a republican health care plan there is no let up in the battle behind the scenes lawmakers governors interest groups are all working furiously a handful of key questions may decide the bill's fate among them how many fewer people would be covered and we'll cheaper insurance make it more appealing or would it be to skimpy for too many dr ezekiel emanuel is one of the original architects behind obamacare he's the author of the new book prescription for the future and ovik roy is co founder and president of the foundation for research on equal opportunity it's a think tank based in austin texas he's been a healthcare adviser to republican presidential candidates including mitt romney and we welcome both of you to the program the croat let me start with you we don't have an analysis she eta this senate bill this new senate bill by the congressional budget office but there was an analysis done by the healthcare firm avalanche it is forecasting that this bill would lead to federal medicaid funding reductions ranging from twenty seven to thirty nine percent in all fifty states doesn't that make it understandable why even republicans are still struggling to support this bill there's a bit of misunderstanding as to exactly what the source of those changes to medicaid are there really two major components there's the first which is the repeal of obamacare is.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM
"Senior political analyst brit hume dr ezekiel emanuel one of the architects of obama care and author of the new book prescription for the future julie pace washington bureau chief for the associated press and the head of the heritage action for america michael need and we'll julie how badly does the white house officials in the white house thank all the revelations this week about the don jr meeting how badly has a damaged their effort to just kind of sideline this whole thing as fake news well in terms of sidelining the says a lot of damage and when you talked to white house officials after the first couple of revelations about this meeting there was a change you could tell it they knew that this is more serious they knew that this was gonna be harder to talk their way out of for a couple of reasons one we're talking about the president sign two we're talking about about actual emails that say in black and white that they were told this was part of the russian government effort to help trump and three the presence and then release those emails himself thought was an anonymous source said something that they quit hit on the intelligence agencies and say that this was coming from disgruntled intelligence officer as i do think though that the overall strategy from the white house as he softened the president's layer is going to be to fight back to try to say that even though you see these emails even though you know this happened there was nothing there and to continue to deny that there is any there's any reason for any of these committees and the muller investigation to continue i get i have an understanding that that there really is a lot of disarray inside the white house that the legal teams particularly the legal team for don jr and the legal team for jared are at cross purposes as to how to handle this that nobody in the white house feels that they can coordinate because if they do and talk to the outside of lawyers are going to end up being called to testify before where the committee and and i also understand that there is growing concern about the kind of dual role of jared and of lanka are they top officials are they family are they.
"dr ezekiel emanuel" Discussed on KELO
"Senior political analyst read hume dr ezekiel emanuel one of the architects of all obama care and author of the new book prescription for the future julie pace washington bureau chief for the associated press and the head of heritage action for america michael need and we'll julie how beverley does the white house officials in the white house thank all the revelations this week about the don jr meeting how badly has a damage there effort to just kind of sideline this whole thing as faked as well in terms of sidelining the says a lot of damage and when you talked to officials after the first couple of revelations about this meeting there was a change you could tell it they knew that this is more serious they knew that this was going to be harder to talk their way out of for a couple of reasons one we're talking about the presence sign two were talking about actual emails that say in black and white that they were told this was part of the russian government effort to help trump and three the presence and then release those emails himself so it was an anonymous source says it was something that they quit pet on the intelligence agencies and say that this was coming from disgruntled intelligence officer as i do think though that the overall strategy from the white house as he softened the president's layer is going to be to fight back to try to say that even though you see these emails even though you know this happened there was nothing there and to continue to deny that there is any there's any reason for any of these committees and the muller investigation to continue i get i have an understanding uh that that there really is a lot of disarray inside the white house at the legal teams particularly the legal team for don jr and the legal team for jared are at cross purposes as to how to handle this that nobody in the white house feels that they can coordinate because if they do and talk to the outside of lawyers are going to end up being called to testify before the committee and i also understand that there is growing concern about the kind of dual role of jared anna vonk are they top officials are they family are they.