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A highlight from 1242. Turning Your Pet Into A Social Media Influencer. Wise Words From An Expert.
"Celebrating the connection with our pets, this is Animal Radio, featuring your dream team, veterinarian, Dr. Debbie White and groomer, Joey Vellani. And here are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis. If you're like Judy, you spend a lot of time online, social media, going through videos. You'll spend like an hour a day maybe just watching. I just get down a rabbit hole, you watch one and then another one pops up, oh, I got to see that. And it's like, oh, look at this one. And they're all animal or pet related. Is that mostly it? Yeah, I won't watch. I don't know if I'm not interested in the other ones. Yeah, sure. Sure. Yeah. So in your life, who would you say is the biggest social media influencer for you? What animal do you maybe even follow? You know what? I'm not a follower. In fact, no. And I like watching both cat and dog videos. So I don't really hone in on a certain animal and like follow that particular animal. I'm kind of like, I watch them all. Have you ever seen, I'm going to hold up a picture here. Have you ever seen this animal here? This is, this is Loki. I hadn't seen Loki. Again, I don't follow any certain animals if I happen to come across a video, but I don't, I don't, I, yeah. He's beautiful. Loki is, what kind of dog is Loki? He's like some kind of a Malamute wolf hybrid. Like a wolf. I'm not quite sure. He's a big dog. This particular picture that I'm holding up to the microphone is Loki and his guardian, Kelly. They're sitting in a hammock. You may have seen this picture. It's a picture that he just casually posted on his Instagram page. And then, uh, the people over at Bored Panda saw it, wanted to do an interview with him. Buzzfeed picked it up. Eventually he realized that his dog was becoming extremely popular online. And he decided after about a year after this picture went out to quit his job and focus on promoting his animal online to become a social media sensation. We're going to find out how he's doing on that and whether or not we should quit our jobs to become ladybugs. Yeah. Well, she has a Facebook page. It's not very popular. Maybe she needs to post more. Well, I just, you know, everybody go to her Facebook page and like her right now. So we're going to talk to this Kelly Lund coming up here. He's the guardian of Loki and we're going to find out what his secret is to becoming a viral sensation. Also on the show today. And in this hour, we're going to talk to Fiona Gilbert. Fiona, do you need to get that? I'm expecting a call from my pharmacist. Can we, can you just make sure? Cause I'm, I have to pick something up and I'm just waiting for them to call and say it's ready. So can you just check that? Thank you. Coming up this hour, Fiona Gilbert will be joining us. She has MS unfortunately, and she has a service dog to help her with her MS. What kind of dog is that there? It's a pit bull. It is a, it is a pit bull. Surprise, surprise. Well now how can that be? I mean a pit bull service dog? Is there such a thing as a pit bull service dog? Why not? Well, I guess not. Why not? I do know that Delta or American Airlines just banned service animals that happened to be pit bulls. I do know that in Denver it is illegal to have a pit bull. That's just wrong. That is wrong. I bet Fiona has a bone to pick with Delta Airlines. I'm guessing that. Or her dog does. Okay, we're going to find out about her service dog, her pit bull coming up here on Animal Radio. Lori, what are you working on for this hour? You were just a minute ago Hal talking about social media and Loki and everything. Well, I have for you a new list from Forbes. They did, I love this word influencers because I had never really heard of it before. I just thought, you're famous on social media. If you're famous on social media, you're an influencer. So Forbes had this edition where they had the top 10 people influencers, the top 10 chef influencers and on and on with everything. And they did a list on pets. So pets on social media. So I will tell you the most famous pets or influencers on social media. When Forbes is involved, there must be money involved. Of course. Okay. That list on the way. First year calls. Let's go to Wanda. Hi Wanda. Hi. How are you doing? Very good. I have the whole dream team here to answer your questions. What's going on with your pets? Okay. I have Dachshund miniature pincher mix. She's having skin problems. I switched vets like four times and they always said that it's yeast, airborne yeast. And they give her shots and she goes okay for two weeks. But then they give her prednisone. That makes her eat a lot. She still eating and she still have the yeast and she still have the smell. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what to do. So has she had any money in the beds? Okay. And have we used any medicine that specifically geared towards the yeast, either by a pill form or by a shampoo or a topical form? Well, they give me Mariset. Okay. And I have to bathe her every other day, but sometimes I can tell you the truth. I don't have time and it's cold and she gets very cold. I'll give her a bath every other day. Okay. And is that it or are they using any pills for that other than the prednisone? No. They give me Apoquel. Apoquel, she still eating and then the doctor say I will then give her Benadryl. Okay. So I'm going to kind of make some interpretations of what you've said and what I think may be the direction that your veterinarian is going here. So if your pet has yeast on the skin, the important thing to know about that is that yeast is generally not the primary problem. It's a secondary problem. So there's usually something else that's making that skin barrier unhealthy where the yeast can really grow and proliferate. So if they're using things like prednisone and Apoquel, it sounds like they're suspicious that she has an underlying allergy. So those medicines are geared towards the allergy. But the sad thing is if we use that and don't address infection and treat it with the medications for those conditions, we're really not going to get anywhere. So we're going to think that, you know, the medicine isn't working for allergies when we're really just not treating a bacterial infection or say a yeast infection that could be present. So what my consideration, and I'd ask you to talk to your veterinarian if this seems fair and like a direction that they would agree with, is that if we have yeast in the skin and it's chronic, especially if it creates some of the different symptoms I see with yeast, and I should mention those, yeast in the skin will often cause a really stinky foot odor. It smells like old man foot. I have to wash my bed and everything every day. Yeah. So it's a real strong smell. The dogs will often have kind of a greasy feel to them in those areas. And in some cases when it's present for chronic long -term periods of time, we'll actually get a thickening of the skin and it'll become kind of darkly pigmented and what almost I describe as elephantinized. So it kind of becomes like elephant skin. She had that in her tail, but then I gave her and gave and went away. Okay. So yeah, so that definitely, if those kinds of things are going on, then yeast is very suspicious. We usually confirm that by taking a sample from the skin and looking and you know, yeast show up pretty easy on an impression smear. So the thing I would ask you to talk to your veterinarian about is, can we use something systemic for her, for this yeast? And that might mean a couple different possible medicines, but they basically all fall under the category of an antifungal medicine, such as ketoconazole or itraconazole, or even one called terbenafene. Any of those are used with yeast infections, whether it be in the ears or say in the skin. So that would be something, and it does take a long period of time. We might get some improvement after maybe a week or two, but many times this is something that we have to treat for many weeks to months. So that would be something where, you know, I would definitely talk to them about that. The other thing is, you know, definitely the maliceb that you're using is certainly an appropriate one if we're suspicious of yeast, but there can be even some other things that we can use topically as well, as far as different types of mousses or sprays that we can use that contain either say chlorhexidine, which is a type of an antiseptic, or miconazole, which is an anti -yeast topical. So those can be things that we can add into the regimen. But I think the good thing in your situation is there is some things that I can suggest for you to try, and the big thing is sticking with it, because it really does take, I had just like a bald, kind of darkly skinned, very little hair. It only had hair on the tip of its tail and around its head, and it took four months of yeast therapy that we treated, and it finally got most of its hair back. It never did get all of it back, because it was so scarred, but it can really be very rewarding. You just kind of have to trek through it. So yeah, with her, she's black. When people see her and they tell me, why are you taking it? Because her top hair of her body is black, shiny, so pretty. It's just under the legs, on her stomach, at her four paws, and under the tail. You know, they don't have it, she doesn't have it anyplace else. And I bathe her, I bathe her, she's my baby. Yeah, well, and yeast is horribly itchy. Any human knows that. So it's a miserable thing. So definitely, and even some other kind of anti -itch remedies, you know, that we can use. I am using a lot of the canine atopic dermatitis immunoglobulin called CADI, and that helps a lot just to kind of stop the itch, to give pets relief while we're dealing with all the other things. Yes, I don't want to bite. I know that the steroids, they're going to hurt her a long time. And I say, what I'm giving to her is she's not going to be improving. That's why I hear you every morning. And I say on Sundays, and I say, I'm going to call because maybe I can go to the vet with some knowledge and say, hey, give me the yeast infection medication, take her away from the prednisone. Absolutely. And that makes it harder. The prednisone definitely makes it harder for her to fight these infections. So if we use it sparingly, just to kind of help relieve it, and then yeah, get her off that. I agree totally. So she needs to go to the vet and ask for something systematic. Is that right? Systemic. Systemic. A systemic and a yeast medicine. Yes, a yeast medicine. I will do that. Hopefully we can get her some good help and I wish you guys the best. Let us know how things turn out and hopefully we'll get her feeling and looking better and smelling better too. Thanks Wanda. Well, this portion of Animal Radio is underwritten by Fear Free Happy Homes. Don't forget you can get your fix of Animal Radio anytime you want with the Animal Radio app for iPhone and Android. Download it now. It's made possible by Fear Free Happy Homes. Helping your pets live their happiest, healthiest, fullest lives at home, at the vet, and everywhere in between. Visit them at fearfreehappyhomes .com. And thanks, Fear Free, for underwriting Animal Radio.
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A highlight from 1241. What Does It Mean When Your Favorite Drinking Buddy Is The Cat?
"Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio featuring your dream team veterinarian Dr. Debbie White and groomer Joey Vellani and here are your hosts Hal Abrams and Judy Francis. I'm going to go ahead and set the scene right now. Dr. Debbie is chowing down or drinking a drink I guess it's kombucha is that what you call that? Kombucha, yeah! It's a fabulous fermented drink that's got a little bit of vinegar it. to Any alcohol in it? Technically there's a warning on there yeah so but it's not like you drink it to get you know lit it's just it's just a natural process of the fermentation releases alcohols. Can I just say it looks absolutely disgusting. It is there's a sludge at the bottom and so you have to stir it but that's where the good stuff's at. You want that. Are there any redeeming factors of kombucha for animals? Can animals drink kombucha? You know because of the alcohol in there I've never heard of it actually being safe for for dogs but you know if we could develop one for dogs that would be appropriate. I guess the first thing would be would they like it because most kombuchas are kind of citrusy flavored or they have like you know different kind of additives to them that may not be appealing on the canine palette so we might have to find ways to make that a doggy attractant. I don't know. So there's no beef or chicken kombucha? Heck no. I wouldn't drink that. Is it good? Do you drink it because it's good for you? Yeah it's got a lot of live bacterial cultures that are good for your digestive tract. So it's actually in my opinion is better than yogurt because you can't get this amount of active cultures from just eating yogurt without the calories. This is awesome stuff. It's like 50 to 60 calories for a bottle. What about probiotics for pets because there's lots of those out there. That's true yeah and I think that there's a lot of probiotics out there. We just don't really know what cultures are necessarily the best cultures for dogs or cats or people even. I think they're still really looking at that and saying plus there's the problem of getting the probiotic in through the digestive tract and not have it digested. So there's got to be this kind of gets past the stomach and can actually do its work in the digestive tract so not all probiotics are the same. So where do you get this? Do you make it or do you buy it? Some people make it and I just buy it at the health food store, the grocery store. You could buy it everywhere now but it's definitely good for the gut and you know part of your immune system. So it's good for everything. I'm thinking about six years ago when you first came on to animal radio you used to come in with a diet Pepsi one. Yeah I've kind of evolved I'd say. Things have changed. You know who we're going to have on the show today is a lady who makes cocktails for animals for dogs and cats. Okay. I know this it sounds a little strange to me. Alcoholic? Well it's a pet winery and I don't think there's any alcohol involved. No there's no alcohol in it. I have a Fetch Me Noir and it looks like a bottle of wine. It really does. I have a Meow Sling and that Meow Sling looks like one of those little shots that you'd get on the airplane. And I also have a purgandy, a Fetch Me Grigio, a dog teeny, a cat teeny. A dog teeny and a cat teeny. Yeah about everything. I don't understand. So you can include your pets if you're having a party and do it in a safe way. Exactly. So for the holidays you're coming up you can pour a little martini gliese with a little bit of the puppy liquor in there and it'd be a safe alternative. They even have a bark brew if you know if your dog likes prefers beer instead. This is Barktober right? There you go. We're going to talk to this lady who's invented this stuff is that correct? She's coming up in just a few minutes right here on Animal Radio. What are you working on over there in the newsroom Lori? Got a very interesting story. How you you could think you have food poisoning but it's really your puppy that's making you sick. Okay it's your turn to reach out to Dr. Debbie right now in this portion of Animal Radio brought to you by Fear Free Happy Homes. Helping your pets live their happiest, healthiest, fullest lives at home, at the vet, everywhere in between. Visit them at fearfreehappyhomes .com and thanks Fear Free for underwriting Animal Radio. Hey Ted how you doing? Hey fine how are you? Good where are you calling from today? I'm calling from Los Angeles. The LA area listening on coast. How can we help you? The whole team is here for you. Oh thank you so much. I've got the problem with my dog. I've got a pit bull that was left me uh that was somebody my dog was going to sell and she hasn't sold and I've had the dog for years now and I can't get him to stop digging the backyard up. Everything is a nightmare. Okay.
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A highlight from 1240. A Therapy Duck? Can Kissing Your Pet Make You Fat?
"Celebrating the connection with our pets this is Animal Radio featuring your dream team veterinarian Dr. Debbie White and groomer Joey Vellani and here are your hosts Hal Abrams and Judy Francis. Well this is the show where we celebrate the animals that we love that are family and for most of us they may be dogs, cats, fish, birds, horses but for one lady it's a duck. She has a pet duck. Why not? And she's going to be joining us on the show today to tell us what it's like to have a pet duck in just a few minutes right here on Animal Radio. Let's see oh it is also week four of our new pet product special featuring the latest goodies and gadgets for you and your pets and we'll have giveaways today of today's item. Lori what are you working on over there in the newsroom? There's some interesting new research out that there's nothing definitive yet but there are hints and they are studying it if it's possible that by you kissing your pet you could make that pet heavier.
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A highlight from 1238. 5 Signs You Need To Get To The Vet ASAP!
"Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio, featuring your dream team, veterinarian Dr. Debbie White and groomer Joey Vellani. And here are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis. Well here we are once again. I'm having so much fun. Today I'm going to learn how to pill a dog or a cat without getting my knuckles bit off or anything like that. No, suppositories. Yeah, Doc Halligan is going to help me with that in just a couple of minutes right here on Animal Radio. Also on the show today, veterinary correspondent Dr. Marty Becker and he'll tell you the five things that if you see them in your dog, you need to get to a vet immediately because it's an emergency. So that's all in the way. Hi, who's this? Hi, this is Fran. You are on with Dr. Debbie. What's going on in your life? Well hi, Dr. Debbie. My son brought home on August 8th, they brought home a puppy and about two days after they brought the puppy home, she got really sick. They took her to the vet emergency room and the vet there said she had tested positive week for the parvo virus. I've never heard of parvo before. So they gave her some amoxicillin for two weeks and some other medicines and they enter home with my son. I'm a truck driver. I got home on a Tuesday that would have been the 12th and I brought some penicillin and I gave her a shot of penicillin on the 12th and on the 13th. After that, she did quite well. She's doing really good. She's eating really good, running around the house now. But I have some questions because like I said, I really don't know anything about this. Yeah, and I'm going to back up a little bit and ask you a couple of questions here. What's the puppy's name? Mary Jane. Mary Jane. All right. And what breed is she? Well, we either think she is full -blooded German Shepherd or she's Dolby German Shepherd mix. We're not sure. Okay. And how old is she? Well, we believe she's either two or three months. I don't think she's more than that because she still has a baby teeth. Okay. All right. Well, and do you know much of anything about her background? Where she came from? If she had any puppy shots before you got her? She had no puppy shots before we got her. The only thing we really know about the background is there was six in the litter and two of them have died from this parvo. One was very sick and in the hospital and one was healthy as can be. We don't know about the other one. And you said they did test Mary Jane for the parvo and she tested positive. Is that correct? The doctor said positive weak. Are weak positive? Okay. I don't know what that meant. It's kind of somewhat something we look at because if there's a possibility Mary Jane was just vaccinated prior to testing, sometimes we can get a weak positive. And that's why I was kind of trying to get some of that information out because that can make it very confusing. And I see that a lot of times when people suspect their dog might have parvo and they bring it into the vet and we vaccinate it and they don't tell us they think it's sick and it can make the interpretation of a test difficult. So that's why I wondered if whoever had her beforehand had done any kind of preventative care in that way. But we can also get a weak parvo test doesn't mean that they have a little bit of disease versus a lot of disease. What it means is that we're not shedding a lot of the virus and that's kind of how we pick it up on that test is we take unfortunately a little Q -tip up the backside and we test for the amount of viral particles there. So if a pet has the virus but it's not really shedding a lot in their poop, we don't pick up a lot in the test. It could be a weak positive test, whereas there are some dogs that shed tremendous loads of virus and that test is just a flaring positive right away. So that's just what kind of that, giving them an explanation on that.
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A highlight from 1237. Black Dog Syndrome - Using Pets To Teach Anti-Bullying
"Celebrating the connection with our pets this is Animal Radio featuring your dream team veterinarian Dr. Debbie White and groomer Joey Vellani and here are your hosts Hal Abrams and Judy Francis. Okay I want you to look into your wallets or your phone either one right now and if all of the pictures in there are of your cat or your dog or your ferret or whatever animal you have you found the right show this is it Animal Radio. We're all just as crazy about our animals as you are and we have Dr. Vitts crazy like over the we're certified we're lucky to have a radio show but they said animals why not you know few of us have animals in fact about 68 percent of households have animals and if you don't what are you waiting for the shelters are just waiting for you to come on down and meet some beautiful animals that will capture your hearts and you can take them home with you and have a brand new forever friend. I just kind of sort of went off on a tangent there. Yeah you did Hal and I was thinking how wonderful that was beautiful. So we're going to go to the phones here we have Dr. Debbie to answer all those vet medical questions we have dog father Joey Vellani who's a groomer extraordinary you've seen him on Animal Planet's Dogs 101 and groomer has it and he you know we thought that you didn't need to groom an animal until he came on board and we realized what we were really missing out on how well our animal could look if we gave it a little attention. Regular grooming. So if you want to talk to either one of them it's free of charge directly from the animal radio app for iPhone and Android and Blackberry it's a free download thanks to those folks over at Doctors Foster's and Smith and the great thing about the app is not only can you ask the questions you can listen to any show you want animal radio show the Andy Griffith show is not on there yet and but you could also browse the deep resources we have lots of resources for you and news that's important for you so if there's a recall of a certain food and you need to know about it you'll know about it through the animal radio app so we make fun about it but it's an important app to have and as I've said before it's so important I've actually downloaded it twice I have to have it twice on my phone wow you don't have to do that I'm just asking you to download it once hey Jim how you doing great where you calling from today well right now I'm in Rowland Heights Rowland Heights right is that the LA area Los Angeles area well yeah it's east of LA okay so what's going on with your animals I have the entire dream team here for you well it's kind of a weird situation I have a 17 year old in their cat has been indoor ever since my girlfriend and her son got it okay the outdoor cat I rescued it it was growing up in a while somebody dumped it off and for about a year year and a half or so it was living with raccoons oh my and then there was a couple other couple other people I guess were jumping cats off and how this cat got the one I have now got caught in a cage and went went berserk it got got an affection and hearing a society out in Pomona California and so I went down and I rescued it I nursed it back to health and it's the most horrible cat that you have ever seen Wow it's on the bed on the pillows or always tries to bathe me oh that's wonderful so what's going on with these guys Jim what's your problem well I see bumps every now and then I don't see fleas or ticks or anything and they haven't been scratching up like a zoo okay all right do they have any sores on their bodies well I see bumps I can feel bumps but when I look it could be sores but I think it's from them scratching or biting or picking on themselves okay all righty so if we see little small bumps or feel them on cats especially if they're kind of like if you look at them closely they might be a little pink almost like a pimple and sometimes they'll have a scab on them then then that can be a condition we call miliary dermatitis and it's miliary little bumps dermatitis can happen from a lot of different reasons in cats the number one thing that causes it is flea allergy dermatitis so that's always the number one thing on my list when I hear of kitties that have these little bumps usually around the neck the head sometimes on the chest but also along the back there are some other causes of that as well and that might be things like a bacterial infection allergies or food allergies and even things like ringworm so cats don't always have to get ringworm with like a hair loss like a person does they can actually get these little bumps so since you do have a kitty going outside I'm gonna say number one thing we need to focus on is flea control and the funny thing that I always have this conversation with folks about cats and a lot of folks will say oh I never see fleas or any evidence of fleas on my cat and that's because in many cases cats are doing what they do best they groom and they groom themselves really well so we can't count on seeing evidence of fleas on cats if we're in an area that has fleas and especially with having one going outside we really need to treat appropriately with that and that might be a combination of a oral product such as comfortus along with a topical product on a regular monthly basis so that is by far the number one thing I'm doing for both cats the other thing and if we do have fleas to realize is if you have that one cat going outside we're gonna struggle we are gonna struggle hard to control fleas and any resulting skin side effects because of that so if we're really concerned about getting this on under control we'll try to keep the outdoor cat indoors for about a month's time so we can really do our best to try to get the flea control under our belts there but then you know this would be something if you haven't already taken the babies to the vet you know we we'd want to do that and just make sure we don't have something like ringworm and check to see if we need to be on an antibiotic or if they do see fleas sometimes we'll use a bit of a steroid just to help decrease the itch so we don't have so much self trauma as a result of the itch because dogs cats they can have flea allergy dermatitis which means they are reasonably itchy from the bite of the flea from the saliva so it doesn't have to be that that we have tons of fleas it could be one flea and if you have an allergic pet they are just going crazy from that itch so that's when we'll often use things like you know prednisone or other types of steroids just to help kind of quiet down that reaction there as far as you know them bathing themselves you know looking and and and all that you know well I guess what you call washing your body or something they always do that through all day long yeah yeah that's normal I mean kitties they are fastidious creature so you know it is really their job to keep that hair coat looking good and if something offending is there they're gonna get it out of there so yeah that's why you know they may just be doing a really good job of that so so you got a little bit of work there Jim but you know work with your veterinarian and see about getting the right treatment and the right products so you know this is something I definitely like to work with my clients because some of the topicals alone aren't going to give us the quickest relief especially with the allergy dermatitis we got to use some of these quick kill type products and many of them are the oral forms right yeah I tried it for a while and I wasn't sure if I was helping it or not and to me it didn't seem like it made a difference you tried what I missed the front line he tried frontline so we're talking about some of the oral so this is different medicines these are medicines that you you take internally is that correct right right and there's you know there's not every topical is created equal so we prefer to have a topical that if possible has a quick kill if not that's when we pull out the oral medications cap star come forward us and a lot of these they will kill those fleas so quickly but if your cat's going outside they're gonna get reinvested so that's where keeping them indoors just to get a handle on things can be very helpful for the initial stages of trying to treat this I applaud you you're doing something right Jim we got that 17 year old hat so give those babies a hug and a little scratch and thanks so much for your call all right take care Jim we appreciate it yeah we have Nike the studio cat and it just takes one flea bite and he is yeah his whole body gets covered with sores and the comfort has worked very well for us and a steroid shot that day when we discovered that cleared him up fast if you happen to have a Yorkshire terrier shih tzu a pug or a mini schnauzer did you know did you know our very own talented doctor Debbie has written books called how to be your dog's best friends about these breeds right here and I'm gonna try to convince her to work on some other breeds but if you have one of these right now you definitely want to have this Guardians manual available as Kindle books over at amazon .com and of course we have links over at animal radio .com are there any natural holistic treatments for fleas I mean I get tired of searching for one well like all the old old wives things like garlic really don't work as far as like the skin so soft you can do that in a diluted spray and that can be one thing you can use trying to think holistic isn't my forte I just feel so bad dumping a chemical on my cat skin or dog you know and I'm with you on that I really am because I spilt I accidentally spilt some of that front liner advantage and it splattered on my keyboard on my computer and it ate a little hole right where it splattered you think of all the different types of products and if you put them on a plastic which is plastic is just not a normal substance wait but you would put something on skin that would eat away at plastic I just don't know I I I'm having a hard time with that doc well there's different carriers and such within those products which may not necessarily be causing a problem but will on plastic and yeah can cause a surface change so hmm okay by the same token I used to I did find a natural one one time in the store and this was many moons ago at least ten years ago and but it was like a clove oil and something else and and it was way too strong I tested it on my own inner arm first and it burned my skin so I wasn't gonna put it on my cat either well this portion of animal radio is underwritten by fear -free happy homes don't forget you can get your fix of animal radio anytime you want with the animal radio app for iPhone and Android download it now it's made possible by fear -free happy homes helping your pets live their happiest healthiest fullest lives at home at the vet and everywhere in between visit them at fear -free happy homes calm and thanks fear -free for underwriting animal radio you're listening to animal radio call the dream team now with the free animal radio app for iPhone and Android how would you like to save money on nearly all your prescription drugs we've set up a special toll -free number for the RX outreach program they're a non -profit company whose mission it is to make prescription drugs more affordable to the masses they don't take insurance and in many cases your prescriptions are even cheaper than your co -pays they 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A highlight from 1236. Things Your Vet Wished You Worried About More
"Celebrating the connection with our pets this is Animal Radio featuring your dream team veterinarian Dr. Debbie White and groomer Joey Vellani and here are your hosts Hallie Rums and Judy Francis. We have a killer show for you today Doc Halligan will be here. Who's that over there? Lucy and Ro Ro. Yeah and who does the more snoring? Lucy absolutely. Okay so if you hear that during the show it's not me or anybody else. Or me. Yeah there you go. We have Doc Halligan joining us today to talk about the never -ending controversy over pet food and what kind of pet food to get the expensive food the cheap food what to look for on the labels what not to look for on the labels. Also Dr. Marty Becker is back with things that vets know but owners don't worry enough about. Things that vets know but owners they worry too little about those things. I'm sorry I'm still not making sense. It's kind of like they go to bed at night and say gee I wish my patients would look at this more often. Oh yeah so Dr. Becker is gonna tell us the things that we need to worry about that we should start worrying about more? Yes we need to worry more. Okay that's on the way right here. Well I think this would be a perfect topper for all these healthy topics that we're talking about. There's actually seven breeds of dogs that have no major or minor health complications at all associated with the breed. Really? That's amazing. I know I'm a bulldog owner ask me. Yeah you're the opposite end. Bulldog's gotta be one of the more high maintenance animals. Hi Victoria welcome to Animal Radio. Well thank you for taking my question today I'm a second new listener we should have like some kind of fanfare or something like second new listeners. Well welcome.
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A highlight from 1235. The Chicken Chick Is Back! Who Gets Custody Of The Dog?
"Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is Animal Radio, featuring your dream team, veterinarian Dr. Debbie White and groomer Joey Vellani. And here are your hosts, Hal Abrams and Judy Francis. Miss Lori Brooks working hard in the newsroom. What do you have coming up this hour? Well, you know how you look into somebody's eyes and we have humans, round pupils, right? Well, they've done some research and animals have either a vertical or a horizontal pupil and each one in the various kinds of animals means something different, so we're going to tell you about that. Oh, wow. I never thought about that. That's cool. That's interesting. That's really cool. Yeah. Like dogs and snakes and iguanas. A rhinoceros. Am I on the right track here? What are you working on today, Joey? You know what? I'm excited. I'm working on brushes and don't excite many people, but it excites me. The groomer of me just comes out, so we're going to talk about brushes. Brushes do excite you. I know that you're always bringing in the latest and greatest brushes. I thought a brush is a brush is a brush, but apparently there's different types of brushes and today you're going to tell us all about that. Brushes are a great arm workout too. They are a good workout for your arms, the big muscles, plus you bond with your animals. You know that. They love that when you brush them. That's the best present you can give them. Take this brush and brush my hair. It's the gift that keeps on giving. In just a couple of minutes, we're going to talk to the chicken chick. Is that correct? The chicken chick. Chicken chick.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Animal Radio
"Is animal radio. This is where we celebrate the connection with our pets that could be sending them off to a hotel for a vacation or a spa or salon treatment. Because they do that for the animals now and it's hard to believe but there's a brand new hotel with a pet resort in rockville and i believe that's maryland. If i'm not mistaken is that okay. It costs million dollars to build this pet resort. Wow so you know it's gotta be like top of the line joining us right now on. The phones is cathy alter hi cathy. How're you doing how i'm good. How high duty. And there's laurie over here. Dr debbie high zoar. You're a writer right. You got a local journalist here. And i write for some national magazines as well but since i'm in washington dc. I'm always looking for something Fun firm for me to do and then write about and that's exactly what you did. You went to the old town. Pet resort in rockville. Correct me if i'm wrong. That's exclusively for animals. Is that yes. It is a luxury pet resort. It's actually the third outposts that they've opened and it's their most fancy in rockville maryland. And i got a press. Release where i read about the presidential suite and i thought well i wonder if i could stay in the president and that's how it all started. So what you call them up and you said hey can i stay in the presidential suite. What did they say. When i called the publicist and i said. Do you think that they would let me stay in the presidential suite. And she knows me and knows that i'll do anything probably and i mean it happened so quickly irae for washington ian magazine and I'd never written for them before. But i picked the editor. And said i can spend the night in a luxury hotel. Do you want me to and to emailed me back in less than a minute and said yes so before i knew it. I had my bags packed. And i was sleeping. Among the dog. The way they described the resort sounded like the four seasons. But it was really a lot less money. Probably a really good deal. And i have a six year old and a night away. That sounds great to explain the hotel or resort. I should say at eight million dollars. That sounds pretty high end. You not know if i hadn't told you this was a pat resort. You'd think you were checking into the you know golden doors or canyon ranch. It is really nice. It's policy stone floors and an indoor Salt water swimming pool and they have this special air filter systems. So you don't smell any kind of animal smell. It's it's like tinkling bell music when you walk in it's super super fancy and you don't realize that there's any animal staying there until you get farther back in there but even the doors to the kennels are You know airtight so you really. You don't hear anything you don't see anything And there's a room. Yeah there's a beauty poller. They have an exercise studio. They have this lap pool they They re bedtime stories to the animals. I mean it's very. It was great and i you know i have stayed in worse places so there was really quiet and you know it was relaxing. I had a tv in my room. And they had my favorite music playing and colgate university banner-hanging. They did their homework. And i realized that they do that. For the animals they special care. And who's staying there. And they they treat it very seriously. Although i was kind of you know fooling around we'll tell us about your stated you What what did you do. You eat dog food. Did you get a pod to cure. I gotta pot. Yeah so they picked me up in the in the van. You know where. I thought i was going to have to go in the back because i said i wanna do everything the dogs do but i got to say in the passenger seat so that was pretty good and then when i got in they did this little pet questionnaire for me they wanted to know my likes and dislikes and what kind of food i liked and you know did i play nice with others so i sat and i did that and then i changed and went up to the exercise studio and i took a pilates class really hard. It was really hard. The dog i did it with was like a superior. Athlete did not get tired. And after that. I took a swim with a big Laboratory retriever who is huge. When you did pilates did you have to do it on all fours and did you have to do the paddle in the pool. I didn't have to do my pilates fourth. i wish i had. It would have been easier. But i was on two legs and trying to balance on a ball and it was difficult and i i did do. The dog pat all in the pool. But you know what else was i going to. I was really scared of the dog. Didn't wanna put my head under the water because the dog was really big and chasing stuff. So i i had my eye on the dog and then i got out and i had a park here with this cute little puppy and then it was time for dinner and they served me my spaghetti and meatballs and a dog bowl but they gave me utensils And then i got a bedtime story and then it was late out. Where can people learn more about your writing and perhaps even see this article. Well there's pictures and everything. In fact i've been recognized more from this article than anything i've ever written before and i've been writing for quite a while so they can go to my website. Cathy alter dot com. We'll put links everything you've heard on today's show over an animal radio dot pets. Thank you thanks for spending time with us today. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having made. Okay it's time for us to get on outta here. Don't forget you can get your fix during the week over an animal radio dot pet and links to everything you've heard on today's show over an animal radio dot pet. Have yourself a great week. I'm off to go study my baby talk. Every was good listeners. You no we love our listeners s..
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Animal Radio
"Back at home within a couple of hours. How much to my parents chagrin. They thought they finally got rid of me for summer. Off to summer camp. I did not but there was one year. They showed us horseback riding. And i just really got into the horses net. Took my mind off it. So i'm thinking. I know we're lori is going to go with us and we'll find out in just a few minutes right here but i your calls. Hi terry harry doing great. How are you good. Where are you. I in ohio with. Dr debbie debbie going on with you to sheltie puppies The are a will be eight months old fifteenth of this month and the little female. She's very tiny She's only about maybe fifteen pounds right now and her brother is like thirty three and they're out of the same litter. You'd never believe. These are the same puppies letter difference. Yeah yeah that's a huge difference Her teeth her front. I ascended a canine teeth. The ones that point down and then kind of get in sync with the bottom. Once the long run they're coming in on an angle there protruding forward at. I think she was going to get those teas. And then they start coming in and so now they're pointing forward and it's kind of forcing her bottom teeth out is there is something we need to be concerned about I mean i've been on the internet. And i've seen where they put braces on dogs. They pull the teeth But when they pull the teeth that they have complications is something that we can just let her go with or is it going to interfere with her eating or or what. Well generally in what you're describing is where The canine teeth had the big kind of like the fang teeth and particularly in shelties. We do see this congenital deformity. If you call it that where that big hook tooth it is pointed forward and it can actually interfere with the gum and cause some problems when they become more mature so it does usually warrant some intervention. And i'd say that most people tend to go to either one of two schools Of belief here one would be to extract that tooth Because knowing that it's going to create problems it's gonna get caught on the tooth we're gonna have a An area where there's going to be excess harder that's going to build up So there's a lot of veterinarians will say just to yank that to pull it get it out of there be done and over with it's now. There's the other possibility of trying. Something of a procedure called a vital pot. Amee basically it's the equivalent of Cutting off part of the crown of the tooth and kind of sealing it up So it's shorter it's still there. We're not really damaging that writ structure those are. I'd say probably a two more common approaches. You can do braces and you hand. Try to restore that bite I don't know that a lot of veterinary dennis. A really big fans of that But there are some that will pursue that but just knowing that. That's just a future problem. Waiting to happen. I would probably say in that truths going to be the best and easiest solution that i could tell you what i have i have read about. Is that sometimes. This evidently is as long in the gum area as it is hanging down and that it can interfere with your sinus cavities. If something exactly yeah and actually the way that any of those teeth on the upper jaw go is that there is. It's kind of like an iceberg. So what you see on the out service outside. It's only part of that tooth and that deeper part goes up and does penetrate part of the sinus. So yeah when it's abnormally positioned. You're going to have more potential for problems there So so when when we extract the tooth like that we know we gotta take out what we see and what we don't see on that tooth and if that truth is removed fully and completely and that can be done with your veterinarian with the benefit of rays where they take little digital xrays of the tea just like when you go to the dentist and you put that fight film in your mouth We we do that for dogs. But they're generally asleep and sitting still and we do the same kind of X-rays that'll help ensure that gets from our as leaving a go is her teeth would not be fully form now or are they going to get longer because there's kind of. It's funny because we call her. Her nickname is elvis. Because she kinda looks like she's got that you know when when she's She's got done eating or she's getting a treat or something and then she'll look at you and then she gets that tooth kat on her gum and i didn't know if that was tooth was fully formed yet. Or if it's still to grow more in and then it's gonna force those our teeth out or this these are before shelley's we've had two other shelties and We never had a problem with your teeth. And the actually came from the same breeder They are the Great nephews of our eight year old sheltie that we had to put down in june. That was part of our family. And so now we have two tri-colored ones and we couldn't decide on just taking one so we ended up having brother and sister now instead of just having one. We have to wonder if the mail he's fine. His teeth are beautiful and perfect. It's this this defect does come up. It's actually technically called the term lance. Canine and i think for for your babies purposes. You're still see some growth in that tooth and she's still young enough that you're gonna see it kinda grow even further out so Definitely attention then. Yeah i sure would and You know you may have had these your whole life but you know these kinds of things do crop up in they kind of any breed. Little problem can come up a genetic defect. Never saw before if he now's your whole life so But yeah i think address it and you'll be you'll be a good plain and she'll never know the difference without that to the long run. So this is dr debbie. If you have a question for me give me a call at animal radio. Hi patrick how are you doing good. I'm stuck down in houston and traffic. But i'll doing patrick. We've got a wolf at the house he's Arctic wolf timber wolf. I believe he's not a hybrid. He's actually a wolf then. Yep yep he's full-blooded wolf Of course we listened hybrid and everything like that. I guess papers on them but we have papers and everything on them I spoke to my wife last night. She said he's about one hundred and forty pounds but he's big. He's real big but he's real slender. And i know a few other people that have got will. There's are actually still out. And i was on the see what i could do about that. Houses general overall health. Have you had any issues any problems. Diarrhea vomiting anything going on like that. No and tell me a little bit about what you feed. Because i know for a lot of listeners of probably not really aware that people keep wolves as pets tell me he is really really good What we feed them like dry dog food in my wife will treat him to scraps. You know meat scraps and stuff like that They've been cooked and all that kind of stuff that's about what he eats on his his diet. I've been hearing and at about the.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Animal Radio
"Radio celebrating the connection with our pets. We have christine. I believe is on this line here. Hi christine harry duin good where you calling from missouri now. Rolla missouri driver driver pets today. You know. I have dr debbie on the line with me. Oh okay. he's doing fine. I was just wondering like the pat on your toes. We got it caught. Fire been about nine days now. He got he got his car in the door. Where we're closing the door. Yeah that pad came on what we did it because been on an racket up and had it out now. We descend wrapped it like two days ago and half of it. Looks like it's connecting. You know what the other half connector just fall off or should i take him to the debt. Imagine now is this the front power back paw okay in. They have like the the tow pans. And then there's a bigger pad And then there's even a small little what we call an accessory pad up the ankle. Which iria are we talking about. His co. pat. It's not the big one in the middle it's like you know like our spam. It would be the one right next to it okay. Yea fortunately dogs. Having amazing ability to heal on the flip area unfortunately they frequently damage and injure those areas and my own. Dogs have done this Running out on rocks where they kinda slough and tear off. Parts of their flip pat So i think yes your your dogs pad will heal up now. It's already been quite a ways If it's been that long now You might be worthwhile getting that checked out with a veterinarian but typically even if good parts of that topaz powder cut off it will regenerate does grow back. The hard thing is to make sure we keep them off that foot we make them as comfortable as possible and we guard against infection so hard to say with your situation. If you've been doing some of that homecare we might be okay. But i think it's always good to get a professional to look at that and see if it's something that might need a stitch because in some cases when these toe pads kinda get sliced We do need to get some stitches to kinda help. The area he'll In do you normally have your pet out running around a letter with the. Was this just a freak accident that happened. It was in the truck truck drivers and Accidentally close the door. Because he's getting old. He used to jump up on the seat so he never had that problem in that day. He just happened to hear real well like you used to. And i guess he didn't know realize the door was closing in foot was right there and it just kind of field that all the way back it was hanging in like i said we put the near foreign and we've kept get wrapped up. It's doing really good now underneath Starting to getting real like smooth feeling. But like i said just half ago has connected. The other happens kind of skill hanging. And i know you know what what catholics call off or if i could just take today they are definitely think i think at this point. It would be worthwhile to have that looked at because at ten days down the road. You shouldn't have anything dangling still So that's where you might need to get something you know. Maybe a quick stitcher to go in there and sometimes they're when they're tear like that Some of that tissue can't always be saved so we want to make sure we do the best thing for him. I preserve his comfort. And that certainly the foremost because you know. They're walking on their toes all day long. We gotta make sure that You know we keep that in the best healing ability there so give that a try. I hope we get your boy walking. Good there soon. Well there you go. Another jam packed. Show i want to take doctor nicholas. Dominant christine o'leary funny gal. She is going to take some of her classes and see if i could become funny. That don't forget to check out an animal radio app. I phone an android download it now before you forget and of course you can visit us and get your fix all week long at animal. Radio dot pets. The i love it. It's that.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Family Health
"I have dr debbie silver today and looking forward to our conversation about how she's doing and she's really truly changing lives in being a light and a very difficult garp world. Welcome thank you so much looking to our conversation to yes. I'm excited because you are in an area similar to me where we're going into a lot of dark dark spaces can feel hopeless at times. Tell us more about you what you do and i'm kind of how you ended up in the space. Sure it's actually. My thirtieth year in business as life would morph in change so in business. So i started in health and then mindset in the personal development and then i had my own Trauma was The betrayal of my family thought. I did everything i needed to do to heal from that in a few years later it happened again. This time it was my husband. Anybody who's been through it. Blindsided devastated the life. As you've known it is no longer. So i got him out of the house and i. I looked at these two experiences. And i said well. What's in common besides me and You know boundaries. Were always getting crossed. I never took my need seriously. So i said okay. That's it something. Drastic has to change so here was four kids. Six dogs fifty a thriving business. That's it we're going back for a phd and it was in trance personal psychology the psychology of transformation human potential. I was changing so much. I didn't quite understand it. He was to on his own. Wasn't ready to look at that yet. And then it was time to do a study so a study trail what holds us back. What helps us..
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Animal Radio
"And pet sits anywhere in the world now. What about the opposite end. What if i'm a homeowner and i'm looking for somebody. I checked out that. I'm on the up and up. I don't have a criminal record. The homeowners come to the site and they put all of their personal details in when they registered so the we have obviously all of that As i say their personal details as well is a criminal background. Don't on me when i lost my home. No there isn't It's up to the the two parties involved to actually do that. Due diligence for themselves homeowners also pay the hundred nineteen dollar fee one hundred nineteen dollars as well and for that they get twenty four hour membership support experienced cities. And who have done this as well as working for the company. But it's going to be up to me to do the criminal background check. This is nothing you guys do no we. We do that on cities as i say they go through the three verification steps culminating in the full background and criminal record check and so the owners actually see that on their profile included in one hundred nineteen bucks at i pay if you're a sitter and you come to the site Two steps of the verification are included in that one hundred and nine hundred dollars. The third step is done by a third party. It's not done by trusted house. It is and that is a cost attached to that approximately. How much do you think that is sixty dollars. Seems very intriguing. I mean it seems like a great way to visit the world as well as take care of some great pets as you're doing it and not really have to pay for hotels or anything like that. That is the beauty of it. I mean staying in a hotel can be incredibly insular. I mean it's impersonal. And it's crowded very often. Would you rather have a one room where you've got to put to disturbed so some b doesn't get you up in the morning or would you rather sit in the luxury of a complete home with a pet food company and go out walking and you know discovering different parts of her place that you wouldn't have gone to otherwise. Thank you so much for spending time with us today on. We'll put links everything that you've heard on today's show over an animal radio dot pet. If you decide to partake let us know. Give us a call and let us know how it went for you and angela. Thank you so much for your time today. You're welcome well. It's time for all of us to hit our separate ways except the dogs gonna go out for a walk right now. Dr debbie you're gonna take lizard out for a walk. No he's unrest right now. He's recovering from surgery. So i think it over that but anyway if you missed any part of the show especially the story about what kind of lizard is it take lizard you can always listen again over at anal- radio dot pat or download. The animal radio app for iphone android and blackberry. Just agreed to have by the way especially if there's a recall food are you a little right away because you'll get notified right on your smartphone. Great week we'll see next week for more animal radio right here. Seeing next week stay cool..
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Animal Radio
"Especially medical related but yeah there's you know this is a whole new realm of veterinary medicine nowadays so graduating veterinarians. Now he can have classes in just specifically reptiles Laboratory species animals like mice and rats So there's a whole lot of specialization that you can get nowadays for me when i came through school Had to learn a lot of this in continuing education on the job but the the now graduating veterinarians are so specialized. It's really amazing. There's so much to know okay. So if you want to talk to dr debbie about your lizards what do they call hemi penis penis or hemi say they only knows inside my dodge durango but now i can see the correlation between the two. Because that's one powerful engine if you wanna talk to her about your dogs or cats any animals that you have from the free animal radio app for iphone and android blackberry and laurie. News is just about ten minutes less than ten minutes away. What do you have coming up all right so then serious now. Drug problems in one of a big animal industry in this country. And it's really shocking. You won't believe the drug that we're talking about okay. That leaves my mind going there okay. That's on the way in just a couple of minutes right here on animal. Animal radio stick around well. This healthy serving of animal radio is brought to you by red barn. of course. your dog's favorite treat company now in the cable business with the i five ingredients featuring real animal protein. This meal is sure to satisfy your dogs carnivore cravings because your dog loves meat and no red barn loves your dog visit red barn dot com and use the promo code animal radio for ten percent of your purchase. That's red barn. Dot com with promo code animal radio.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Animal Radio
"You know how many followers you have. I all i have to say over ninety holy moly. So how many dogs have you pet so far. Three hundred sixty one. Wow boy you must have a lot of dogs in your town. And how many do you plan to What's your goal. A million dogs. Tell me the process so when you go up to a dog. What's the first thing that you do. Maybe you can tell me. Because i'd like to learn how to pet dogs i ask. The caregiver can pet your dog. Then if they say yes and I go up to the dog. Put my palm the hints. Will i put my hand straight out onto the nose. And then they snip it and if the grower back away or stuff like that Then the dog does not wanna be pet. But if it comes up to you and Sniff and then comes up to you Then you can start petting the dog. How many dogs have decided they just don't want to be petted. A couple couple. Okay not very good at this and no dogs have bitten you yet right. No okay but not bit lipped. Maybe they were just tasting you because he smelled so good they just wanted to taste you so now. Did you pull over cars or are you pull over people. That are walking their dog. Do you drive around. How do you drive around and then park when we see a dog get out. It's on the people that are like if it's kind of like weird like what is this key doing. It's kind of like. Yeah so that's a lot of dogs. How do you know if you've already pet that dog before. Can you remember all the dogs. No do you think you might have a couple of times by accident. Yeah It was like paul. We pet twice louis. Yeah that's the name. Louis louis the pug the pug twice no twice on the website. 'cause we didn't See him because he got a haircut groomers and so You didn't recognize him at all. That was pretty sly of him To get a haircut me. Get a double double pad. Yeah he got his picture on there twice. Yep so now walter. Who's your chihuahua. All right who's your to wall wall. What is he. But you'd like to always right. That's your favorite dog right okay. I'm name's walter and he's I know he's per beagle. Okay he might be. He's part husky but the rest is. He's kind of like a mutt okay. What's his name walter alter. Is he jealous of you. Putting all these dogs do you think. Now he doesn't care doesn't care what does he do all the time sleep. These sleeps all the time just like me. As soon as i'm done here i go. I take a nap. So harry you gonna pet more dogs. Are you going to have to go out to other cities or people are going to be bringing dogs to you where you gonna need all these new dogs. She tends to have like ben like On like some of my mom's friend they have dogs. Go bring dogs here. That's happened a couple of times on. Sometimes we go to see his to meet other dogs. Yeah you're probably gonna have to travel the country to meet a million dogs. You may have to do a tour. Okay well i'm very excited. Will you keep us posted. I'm gonna call you back in about How about six months half a year and find out how you're doing that okay. Sure okay gideon kid if you want to visit. His website is www dot. I've pet that dog dot com. What's your twitter feed dino dog. That's pretty simple easy to remember. And of course least everything you've heard on today's show over animal radio dot pet and if you live in cedar falls iowa nearby checkout gideon go by and see him with your dog. The welcome have a great day. Bye kids are so cute. Adorable is that it is time for us to get on outta here. Thanks for coming out and playing with us today. Remember dr debbie's books. Yorkshire terriers shit sues. Pugs mini schnauzers. Are great kindle books for you to pick up and learn how to be your dog's best friend there kindle ebook available over at amazon or you can head on over to animal radio dot pets and select the asa purdon animal radio button. And you'll see everything that was on. Today's show have a great week. Tobacco hussy guys tonight. Because gideon and i are going to get something to eat right now. How cool is that..
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Animal Radio
"Fixed the good stuff get more animal radio with the free animal. Radio app for iphone and android. Your dog loves meat. That's why they'll love the new line of red baron dry dog food. The first five ingredients in each red barn recipe are meat fish or poultry sure to satisfy your dogs carnivore cravings. The added functional ingredients. Make red barn. Dry dog foods. The perfectly balanced meal for your best friend available in land ocean and sky recipes. Your dog loves meat. We love your dog head to red barn dot com to use the promo animal radio for ten percent off your bag celebrating the connection with our pets. This is animal radio featuring veterinarian. Dr debbie white groomer. Joey villani news director. Lorie brooks and now from the red barn studios. Here are your hosts. How rooms and judy francis. If you're listening now which you are. I can guarantee you're listening our you not hearing me say you're listening now. You probably have a pet. You might have a dog. You might have a cat. You might have fish. He might have horses. But you probably don't have a beaver. probably not. yeah they are they're exotic. I don't think it's actually legal to own beavers. No i don't think so. It's a wild animal. But there are wildlife rehabilitators. Yes and in a few minutes. We're going to talk to the mother of justin bieber who justin bieber roommate chest in beaver. Apparently she Is rehabbing a beaver. Among other things. I don't laugh. I mean i don't know what this all about Certainly name is adorable. I lied. I'm not here to judge but i am here to listen and find out. What just in beaver is all about. And we'll have justin bieber zone in the bomb and just a few minutes. I can't even imagine what would it be. Run around free in the house. Go to the store you come back in your kitchen table would be on. The league's would be gone. I'm gonna stick to my cat. My cat is low maintenance. I am a guy. They don't really chew too much. Stop up now. They're not big chewers usually so she's on the way in just a few minutes and we're also going to do a check of the news with lorie brooks. What are you working on for this hour. you know. I was admiring your empathy skills. How when you're talking about. You're just here to listen and stuff and have you ever thought as an animal lover that you are different from other people you know like you feel so much because your heart just aches for these little crazy is that just me. No it's not just you know there are others too but the amazing thing is that scientists have now discovered what it is physiological thing in our human bodies that causes this animal craziness. Animal love empathy. What makes us animal lovers. So i'll share this with you. Because i think it's pretty amazing okay. I cannot wait to find out why. I love animals so much. Dr debbie is ready to take your calls so as joey villani. If you have any questions for our dogfather call right now from the free animal radio app for iphone android and blackberry. They make me say that. Actually i get ten cents. Every time i say that. Have a dollar now. We're going to line to well. Hi how are you doing. I'm good how are you very good. What's going on in your world. Oh well i've just got a big cat that seems to have dandruff. not all the time. But from time to time it seems to be clicked a little bit by the top of her tail You know where it comes from her body in that area She's a siamese cat and she weighs almost eighteen pounds. Holy moly a couple of years. But she's not fat she's just A big cat. Gator shadows wow exercise and everything. But she's just a big test. I took her in and When i first got her new said she's not a fat cat. she's just a big cat. This is the way some of them are. Sometimes you know a little When i first got her they some something on her. I can't even remember what it was and that it did work. It was very greasy and it just were self off and it didn't really work. I was wondering if there's something. I can use on her colt that might help it. Okay perhaps now. There's a couple of things. I wanna ask you. Does she seems itchy scratchy. She have hair loss in any of the areas on her body. She doesn't scott says she doesn't have any hair loss and i've kind of pulled up her and check check. She doesn't have any dry. Spots are dry under there. It's weird to sing. It's kinda like a flaky When i brush her. And i'd take the air off the brush. You can see a little spot of hair She's an indoor cat. And i'm wondering if maybe it's just a dry skin that she's got well. The first thing is when you tell me that you have a siamese that's eighteen pounds. My bs radar is going on and she's in good weight because there are not many. Siamese which are fine boned lean cast is generally. What the breeds hype is so i would just partial. I think maybe half. Siamese yeah well we do see especially in the hindquarter area right over the rump. We do see a problem where overweight cats will commonly get dry skin in that area. And they'll have a lot of flaky nece in part of it is because they're a little bit to round. I'm kind of like a weeble. They can't turn around. And groom that spot very well so that can definitely play one factor in things but when we look at what are all the causes of what makes a cat. We have flaky skin. Well we look at things like parasites so perhaps your veterinarian did treat with a topical parasite product. That'd be one of the simplest things that i would always start with us to make sure we're doing really good flea control because there's also other types of parasites you can't see like might that can cause Flaky nece as well as itching and so forth. So making sure that you've had your cat she's an indoor cat all the time understand. Yeah but they're still. I feel give her the three things Later that he's not An aggressive cat in any way but.
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"From celebrating the connection with our pets. This is animal radio featuring veterinarian. Dr debbie white groomer. Joey villani news director. Lorie brooks and now from the red barn studios. Here are your hosts powell abrahams and judy francis thanks. I enjoyed talking to you on this show. That's my favorite part of the show and in fact we're going to go to the phones in just a couple of minutes. If you have questions for dr debbie or giovanni or you just want to say hello from the free animal. Radio app for iphone android blackberry..
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"Celebrating the connection with our pets. This is animal radio featuring veterinarian. Dr debbie white groomer joy. Villani news director. Lorie brooks and now from the red barn studios. Here are your host. Hal abrahams and francis. All we have a big show for you today. A very serious topic. Dr debbie i want you to be honest with me. Have you ever contemplated suicide you know. I can't say i ever have in my professional life at all But there's been some really dark time. Some really difficult things from employees issues business issues too.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on ANPT Balance and Falls Special Interest Group
"You know somebody's balanced. Somebody's balanced skills. Ms balanced capability or ability and also probably their fall risk. But if i have somebody using those throughout the day on. I don't know that it's telling me. Is this person challenging themselves or are they not how difficult is balanced. How much of an issue is balancing their like we can just say compared to all the other people their age and their gender with their condition their ability falls hear on about curve. Same with doing therapy. We can look at somebody and weaken the other sweating. They looked fearful. You know they're screaming whatever measuring when he used for their working too hard or they look forward. Maybe not working hard enough but we have more fine tuned than that to say. I need to make this task harder. Or they're not getting their money's worth out a museum and we're just working fear not actually training an edison. I think those are different measures than the measures the systems that are commercialized currently I love it. And so and the the focus that you have to to try to create something in that gap is rom. But the other pista about would be What's going on quarterly or in the nervous system heavy thought at all about cooking in that. Row miami while we're sensors like we just need to wear this No i understand that but at least in in being able to measure it in in clinic And there are some noninvasive and it's really really intriguing in my brain is not big enough to go both directions at the same time. I know that there are definitely people whose brains are that big. A lot of people would say that makes you a good scientist is at your your circumscribing year. Study or not trying to do too much at one time. But i but. I mean they're intriguing in you know in reading those those studies in talking to people who do those kinds of studies But i have not stopped to figure out how you would put the two together. Because i haven't really figured out this side of things yet you need to add a neuroscientist your land so that sounds like a really worthwhile stop. And i'm so excited about the the underway now recruiting live participants again Validation in stroke. What other populations have you done allegation on are you looking to validate on So the ten point scale. We did do a study in a group of older adults. Fifty and older who sung it was a range of. I don't feel balanced challenged through. I kind kinda worry about my balance. But nobody with a history of falls and i i have not published that one mostly because we then shortly thereafter switch to the seven point scale I have gone back to to publish the results on the ten point scale right one of the problems with measures as you refine it. Then you're like oh man our that our exactly and then. A lot of the initial work was with college students so got it so unhealthy younger younger population. So i've not. There are no other more circumscribed groups of people that i've worked with yet. I have anybody who would like to use it Especially the newer version If anybody who emails. I send it in their welcome so i had people. On in parkinson's clinics use it had people in general fall in and older adult clinics. Use it Something units but not. That's great and in fact it was. is it laura. Tany louder. I think is her name. That does neuro spark Educational i think she attended your presentation. i think that you did that. Csm for years ago as a as part of the bound false sig Presentation product And she loved it and she must have approached you after you emailed it to her cassettes. As you're saying that it's really sparked my memory to say like that's what she was talking which sagana emailed her and she's like could use it. Yeah and i just love this measure. That's great yes. So i'm i'm thrilled. The people using it because really i firmly believe that than in the practice of pt. You should be really dosing. Your interventions appropriately under working people. We shouldn't be over. Working people will have intentional reasons for choosing the doses the activities the interventions that we choose. And if you can't measure it in some meaningful way than you're not choosing your destroying things at somebody in your probably some of the time but not all times well said well said and when you talk about someone's balance We do have some measures right. Even have our course set from the neuro academy but they don't really get at the stability and none of them purport to measure the intensity of the intervention. They are very very clear about what they're measuring in it's it's fall risk or it's a certain type of balance ability or it's the underlying hardware underlying physiology. That goes into balance of the health of those systems. I mean the very very clear about what they are measuring. It's just that none of them are really measuring the intensity of what. You're what you're doing and it's hard to say you know. There are so many studies that say high intensity this produces these kinds of better results or lower intensity this or you know for stretching this dosage often for this amount of time. produces better results. But we can't say that about balance activity. Yeah i love that. I in fact i think it was just In the last couple of days again catching up on my csm presentations and The presentation that tambi but actually was presenting she. She talked about her next steps in her. Research you know looking at. We need to make dose response curves and if if you can train somebody and be less aggressive and put them through less discomfort and they get the same effect right then. That's what you wanna do but right now What you're saying is we have no idea what. The intensity is that they're experiencing and that's patient specific. So you're you've us a a first step a very important for step two to now pay a lot of things that confound that people over report people that under report You know fewer outside gains than than pain perhaps but but there's definitely a whole psychology behind the scale but right and so it boy that brings up another recent presentation and it was katherine lang talking about you know. We know that you'll have this this curve right. And there's the people that under reported the people over report the people that are reporting really accurately. But but you don't know who you've got in front of you so doesn't fix all problems but if someone's an under reporter at is there any evidence that talks about like at least they'll consistently under report and.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on ANPT Balance and Falls Special Interest Group
"Dole tasking. That sort of thing so that study that was supposed to have been finished by now is just restarting this week. Another covid casualty delay. i do love so you know. Stroke is close to my heart and You mentioned including people that phages so kudos to you. I think that's so important and i still see studies. Where feta's that gives people out of them. Were there any adaptations you needed to do to the scale to make it official friendly no because we designed it intentionally upfront. In that it's color coded it has numbers and it has words and what an deci will be perfectly honest about. I've tried to read you. Know psychometric studies and properties. And i have not figured out how to validate isn't the right word. But assess the use people what we noticed that people use one of those modalities at the time so the folks with Asia on tend to look at the colors or they look at the color and they point to that square. The students by large tend to use the word so instead of giving number. They'll come back with you. Know i feel blah blah not just quote you that definition and other people use the numbers so i think because it had different modalities to access it. We haven't really had an issue. With people. With efficient i will say people with severe receptive of phase of the few people who we are not sure they actually understood. The concept of it up front page has not been an issue as far as we can tell you right okay. now that's that's wonderful. And then are there any exclusion criteria or. I guess i should say what. What are your inclusion exclusion criteria for the populations. You're testing out this. This measure so for the strokes. The stroke study that we're doing right now. It's really just anybody would. It's chronic anybody more than six months past their stroke. Who on self identifies as having balanced difficulties or feels like they're limiting their activities because we fear of falling on or because of poor balance they. I mean the usual restrictions orthopedic or or cardiovascular issues that make the type of exercise unsafe Those types of things but nothing. I'm the cognitive ram including even The the the degree of asia So i think we sort of self limit there. Because of somebody's receptive officials severe enough that they can't understand our study than they also can't understand our consent and sort landed just not equipped to to go that step beyond wonderful That i mean that makes sense and so your data collection will start. I'm hearing different predictions of fall into winter but It's looking like there will be a light at the end of the tunnel. We are beginning. Are data collection again tomorrow. Congratulations that's good news. And what's what's your end that you still need an an and we're people go. If they want to participate. I think they will. We had quite a few people so with the first call out for people who are interested in coming in I think most of the people were not allowed to not ask him about the vaccination but most of them volunteered that they are vaccinated It's a really stringent. I'm on the university committee for You know kobe. Human subjects research approvals. And it's were stringent than any of the clinical settings around but we we're looking for about twelve more folks and we've got ten on to come in and be screened in the next couple of days. Oh good oh nipple hit. I think we'll hit that in. And is it a one time visit or is it no we we have to evaluation visits upfront at the end. And it's ten intervention sessions. I okay but ten out of twelve already at least hopefully screen. So that's good good step so with that It looks like in the next year we might see a new publication. And i love that. It'll be a validation on stroke on but the next step is What what else do you have in your pipeline are. What's the next study that you wanna start once you finish this one. So the as far as the scale we mostly used it with Reactive so we've done reactive testing before and after our interventions so we're looking at both I would. I would love to find kinetics that identify balance difficulty and not just balanced performance. Because i think that hover somebody sways or how quickly they step or any of those. Things has more to do with their balance ability or their performance the balanced task than it does with difficult task was in the first place once. They're really strict instructions about stand there and do not sway. Do not move. So i would. I would love to be able to find a way. And i've talked with some of the engineers about some little bit higher level modeling. that's beyond my immediate ability and things to look at because the world of of wearable sensors make some of those measures if you could create the mathematical model to go with the measures are easy. So that's sorry no that's okay so I'm just chewing on the idea of wearables which is such a hot topic And it and it definitely opens up the ability to assess and more real environments to right. If it's not a million dollar cents or that you're afraid to let leave your clinic. Yes but the other thing. I i was in a recent conversation with of the weinstein. So the The the university of southern california motor behavior neuro rehabilitation lab and they were talking about h. reflects and and and and we're ables but specific to the wearables And what the data is that. They collect how it's converted And one that's really telling you versus what somebody has decided to say. It means exact on which kind of blew my mind is like. That's a whole 'nother tier. I had never even considered. I just believed that. I was very naive. And my belief of these sensors so when you talk about wearables and one of them is the. Apd 'em right which is a very expensive but has some has some pedigree with horrid being part of the development that company Even that sensor right where let you can buy the whole suite of if you're early wealthy and you put them on you know ankles and waste and each wrist and i think there's one at the chest and it that's a lot to get a person aware right so it starts to become like well it's not gonna be just running around and putting this on so have you talked at all about. Are you looking at like. What are the best options out there to try to have something. So at this point. I think that I'm not convinced that any of the commercial systems at this point have the variables that i'm necessarily looking for. I think they they are on their way. They have been. They are getting to.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Academy of Neurologic Physical Therapy Podcast
"Tasking. That sort of thing so that study that was supposed to have been finished by now is just restarting this week. Another covid casualty delay I do love so you know. Stroke is close to my heart and You mentioned including people that phages so kudos to you. I think that's so important. And i still see studies where fatal something that gives people out of them. Were there any adaptations you needed to do to the scale to make it official friendly no because we designed it intentionally upfront in that it's color coded. It has numbers and it has words and what an deci will be perfectly honest about. I've tried to read you. Know psychometric studies and properties. And i have not figured out how to validate isn't the right word. But assess the use people what we notices that people use one of those modalities at the time so the folks with Asia on tend to look at the colors or they look at the color and they point to that square. The students by large tend to use the word so instead of giving number. They'll come back with you. Know i feel blah blah not just quote you that definition and other people use the numbers so i think because it had different modalities to access it. We haven't really had an issue with people Say people with severe receptive of phase of the few people who we. We're not sure they actually understood. The concept of it up front page has not been an issue as far as we can tell you right okay. now that's that's wonderful. And then are there any exclusion criteria or. I guess i should say what. What are your inclusion exclusion criteria for the populations. You're testing out this. This measure so for the strokes on the stroke. Study that we're doing right now. It's really just anybody would. It's chronic anybody more than six months past their stroke. Who on self identifies as having balanced difficulties or feels like they're limiting their activities because we fear of falling on or because of poor balance they. I mean the usual restrictions orthopedic or or cardiovascular issues that make the type of exercise unsafe Those types of things but nothing. I'm the cognitive ram including even The the the degree of asia So i think we sort of self limit there. Because of somebody's receptive officials severe enough that they can't understand our study than they also can't understand our consent and sort landed just not equipped to to go that step beyond wonderful That i mean that makes sense and so your data collection will start. I'm hearing different predictions of fall into winter but It's looking like there will be a light at the end of the tunnel. We are beginning. Are data collection again tomorrow. Congratulations that's good. News and What's what's your end that you still need an an and we're people go. If they want to participate. I think they will. We had quite a few people so with the first call out for people who are interested in coming in I think most of the people were not allowed to not ask him about the vaccination but most of the volunteered that they are vaccinated It's a really stringent. I'm on the university committee for You know kobe. Human subjects research approvals. And it's were stringent than any of the clinical settings around but we we're looking for about twelve more folks and we've got ten on to come in and be screened in the next couple of days. Oh good oh leg nipple hit. I think we'll hit that in. And is it a one time visit or is it though we we have to evaluation visits upfront at the end. And it's ten intervention sessions. I okay but ten out of twelve already at least hopefully screen. So that's good good step so with that It looks like in the next year we might see a new publication. And i love that. It'll be a validation on stroke on but the next step is What what else do you have in your pipeline are. What's the next study that you wanna start once you finish this one. So the as far as the scale we mostly used it with Reactive so we've done reactive testing before and after our interventions so we're looking at both i would i would love to find kinetics that Identify balance difficulty and not just balanced performance. Because i think that hover somebody sways or how quickly they step or any of those. Things has more to do with their balance ability or their performance the balanced task than it does with difficult task was in the first place once. They're really strict instructions about stand there and do not sway. Do not move. So i would. I would love to be able to find a way. And i've talked with some of the engineers about some little bit higher level modeling. that's beyond my immediate ability and things to look at because the world of of wearable sensors make some of those measures if you could create the mathematical model to go with the measures are easy. So that's sorry. No that's okay so I'm just chew on the idea of wearables which is such a hot topic And it and it definitely opens up the ability to assess and more real environments to right. If it's not a million dollar cents or that you're afraid to let leave your clinic. Yes but the other thing. I i was in a recent conversation with of the weinstein. So the the the university of southern california motor behavior neuro rehabilitation lab and they were talking about h. reflects and and and and and we're ables but specific to the wearables And what the data is that. They collect how it's converted And one that's really telling you versus what somebody has decided to say. It means exact on which kind of blew my mind is like. That's a whole 'nother tier. I had never even considered. I just believed that. I was very naive. And my belief of these sensors so when you talk about wearables and one of them is the. Apd 'em right which is a very expensive but has some has some pedigree with horrid being part of the development that company Even that sensor right we've let you can buy the whole suite of if you're early wealthy and you put them on you know ankles and waste and each wrist and i think there's one at the chest and it that's a lot to get a person aware right so it starts to become like well it's not gonna be just running around and putting this on so have you talked at all about. Are you looking at like. What are the best options out there to try to have something. So at this point. I think that I'm not convinced that any of the commercial systems at this point have the variables that i'm necessarily looking for. I think they they are on their way. They have been. They are getting to.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Academy of Neurologic Physical Therapy Podcast
"Or track You know as people develop the as what do their what those are self perception do. Because i i would bet that people don't realize that they're hitting those apa's yes which can be measured right there. There's ways to measure that of course in the lab it's harder in the clinic But really interesting and And i just love this conversation of i never. I never thought there were api as you develop in reactive bounce. I love that So so this might be a nice time to Pause for a second because you've given us lots to chew on and just go through some of the basics right for people listening in I think a lot of the balance terms get used generally and a lot of times that that means they get used incorrectly right. So the specificity of gets lost and you are a balance expert and i just loved to use some of this time to talk about differentiating some of those commonly used balanced terms. Herb so i am. I have my advisor extent. Wants the traditional keeping your center of mass over your base support. He or somebody during my dissertation defense said you know what a tree stump in can keep it center mass over. Its based in support. But it's not very useful so when most people say they they mean keeping your center of mass within your base of support but even just normal walking. We don't do that. We're constantly moving our center of mass and then rearranging our base of support to fit our new center of mass location. And so i tend to talk more about stability and he is a pretty standard maybe more engineering based definition so it's the ability of the system to return to its previous state. So if i'm walking along and somebody pushes me or slips me or or pulls the floor out from under me my ability to go back to walking in that controlled normal way is stability or the converse. If i can't you know if i fall or Eight stumbles steps or can't get back to that normal walking vets instability. So it's it's the ability of that system to come back to its its baseline Which i think is a lot more useful when we're looking at human movement and the things that people need to do every day It's another piece that we think a lot about in our lab is in. You would know you very familiar with this in working with with stroke and stroke research but people who are really active putting themselves in harm's way more so there may be more likely to fall but there are some more active and they're sedentary and therefore they're challenging themselves and arguably maintain their balance and all the subsystems involved in in balanced control healthier people rarely fall off sofas so if somebody spends all day sitting on a sofa there not as likely to fall until they have to move while some of my stroke population can fall out of a chair at rest. Well yes other. But in general yes. I completely agree so There is definitely a sweet spot in the active enough to not be sedentary maintaining all the systems that you need and not so active that you're that you're putting yourself in too much risk which you know is a different point for every person right. Yes yes so so balance. If i heard you correctly is not such helpful term. It's funny because it's one that we make sure to teach and pt school and we all know it. But i think it's fine to say the realm of balance as long as people understand that includes an awful lot of different things and that there are more specific concepts that you need to think about when you're gonna start doing assessments and intervention design. Very nice and then are there any other Terms that you think it misused or would i think people. Maybe don't think i actually i take that back. People thinking more about proactive versus reactive. I think that once you do balanced training in on a clinic clinical setting often enough for long enough. They become a little bit more intuitive. I know that with my students. We really have to to sit in. Have them work through things physically or mentally. You know what's reactive. Throw a ball cheer responding. But you still have all those pasta adjustments ahead of time. You have time to to call up a motor peremet whole nine yards. It's it's a proactive activity. It's not reactive. yeah. I love that. Because i've had i've had students and even you know license collisions where they just start to say save. There's activity in it. It's reactive like okay. You had to respond to where through bond. You didn't know how to time but you saw it before you had to respond to it and therefore it's still and you have interest of respond. yes yes. Beautifully stated yeah still so with that. I wanna go back to to take another flight if you will out of the stability measure. Because i think as you define those terms it really added to just what a important and helpful tool. This is clinicians With that how did you go about validating this and then what are your next steps using it or your next steps and research so in that we have on since the paper that that you asked me about. We've modified after having just a lot of different people look at the ten point scale and we've changed it to a seven point scale and we and we have found that that is easier for people to use we unfortunately were in the middle of a really big Balanced training study with individuals with stroke. And we've been exactly you're now that data collection has been on hold so we've been using the new seven point scale for that. Study at part of the point of that study was to really look at the use of the scale in different types of balance training in this population who sometimes have phases sometimes have difficulty with.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on ANPT Balance and Falls Special Interest Group
"Or track You know as people develop the as what do their what those are self perception do. Because i i would bet that people don't realize that they're hitting those apa's yes which can be measured right there. There's ways to measure that of course in the lab it's harder in the clinic But really interesting and And i just love this conversation of i never. I never thought there were api as you develop in reactive bounce. I love that So so this might be a nice time to Pause for a second because you've given us lots to chew on and just go through some of the basics right for people listening in I think a lot of the balance terms get used generally and a lot of times that that means they get used incorrectly right. So the specificity of gets lost and you are a balance expert and i just loved to use some of this time to talk about differentiating. Some of those commonly used balanced terms. Serve so i am. I have my advisor extent. Wants the traditional keeping your center of mass over your base support. He or somebody during my dissertation defense said you know what a tree stump in can keep it. Center mass over its base in support. But it's not very useful so when most people say balanced they mean keeping your center of mass within your base of support but even just normal walking. We don't do that. We're constantly moving our center of mass and then rearranging our base of support to fit our new center of mass location. And so i tend to talk more about stability and he is a pretty standard maybe more engineering based definition so it's the ability of the system to return to its previous state. So if i'm walking along and somebody pushes me or slips me or or pulls the floor out from under me my ability to go back to walking in that controlled normal way is stability or the converse. If i can't you know if i fall or Eight stumbles steps or can't get back to that normal walking vets instability. So it's it's the ability of that system to come back to its its baseline Which i think is a lot more useful when we're looking at human movement and the things that people need to do every day It's another piece that we think a lot about in our lab is in. You would know you very familiar with this in working with with stroke and stroke research but people who are really active putting themselves in harm's way more so there may be more likely to fall but there are some more active and they're sedentary and therefore they're challenging themselves and arguably maintain their balance and all the subsystems involved in in balanced control healthier people rarely fall off sofas so if somebody spends all day sitting on a sofa there not as likely to fall until they have to move while some of my stroke population can fall out of a chair at rest. Well yes other. But in general yes. I completely agree so There is definitely a sweet spot in the active enough to not be sedentary maintaining all the systems that you need and not so active that you're that you're putting yourself in too much risk which you know is a different point for every person right. Yes yes so so balance. If i heard you correctly is not such helpful term. It's funny because it's one that we make sure to teach and pt school and we all know it. But i think it's fine to say the realm of balance as long as people understand that includes an awful lot of different things and that there are more specific concepts that you need to think about when you're going to start doing assessments and intervention design. Very nice and then are there any other Terms that you think it misused or would i think people. Maybe don't think i actually i take that back. People thinking more about proactive versus reactive. I think that once you do balanced training in on a clinic clinical setting often enough for long enough. They become a little bit more intuitive. I know that with my students. We really have to to sit in. Have them work through things physically or mentally. what's reactive. Throw a ball cheer responding. But you still have all those pasta adjustments ahead of time. You have time to to call up a Peremet whole nine yards. It's it's a proactive reactive. Yeah i love that. Because i've had i've had students and even you know license collisions where they just start to say save. There's activity in it. It's reactive like okay. You had to respond to where through bond. You didn't know how to time but you saw it before you had to respond to it and therefore still and you have interest in respond. Yes yes beautifully stated. Yeah still so with that. I wanna go back to to take another flight if you will out of the stability measure. Because i think as you define those terms it really added to just what a important and helpful tool. This is clinicians With that how did you go about validating this and then what are your next steps using it Or your next steps and research so in that we have on since the paper that that you asked me about. We've modified after having just a lot of different people get the ten point scale and we've changed it to a seven point scale and we have found that that is easier for people to use. We unfortunately were in the middle of a really big Balanced training study with individuals with stroke. And we've been exactly you're now that data collection has been on hold so we've been using the new seven point scale for that. Study at part of the point of that study was to really look at the use of the scale in different types of balance training in this population who sometimes have phases sometimes have difficulty with.
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"dr debbie" Discussed on Academy of Neurologic Physical Therapy Podcast
"And in looking at that. It occurred to me that there is no way to measure. How difficult is this balance task for this person. You can measure. How fast is the floor moving. Or how much did. I use to nudge them. You can measure if it's proactive. You can measure. How far forward did they lean on. How quickly but that's measuring the performance. That's not measuring how hard the task was so. I did a lot of research in the really. There was nobody measuring intensity for balance training. If you go to dose and exercise program you need to have the frequency the intensity type in the time that intensity portion is easy for weight since easy aerobics. Easy for stretching. It's easy for most of the other. Modalities that we administer but it's not motor. Learning is another example where it's not easy to dose the intensity level. But it isn't didn't so i worked with students at a colleague to just brainstorm ideas for how we might measure this and we came up with something that sort of a modified of the visual analog scale. The scale urban graded both and i in doing a lot of reading decided that i believe that this balance intensity is a lot like pain that it is individual to the person that we can't look at from the outside and say this is this heart for this person or this hard. Just you can't look at somebody and say they're experiencing this much pain because everybody perceives pain differently there just too many systems that going to balance that we've had students where we set up a bunch of different tasks symbol twenty students come through some really welcome slack line but can't stand on a bosa ball to save their life and vice versa and just different people their experiences the bodies they different things are challenging to different people that that's really great and at one of the things that Trying to go through and and catch up on my csm presentations because there's some amazing presentations This really resonates with me because One of the speakers was lou national and he talks about a lot of times what we call reactive balance people kind of anticipate unless you're really good at mixing it up and so you might be scoring reactive balanced but really it's an a. as And i wonder if your scale would help get at that. I don't know i. I completely agree though because even with Mechanical perturbations joe. Pryatta somebody whether it's eight participations standing provision trauma perturbations certainly it. It's well established that once the person is done at once or twice or three times. They changed their their set ahead of time so that they can respond more easily or so. The probation doesn't push them outside of their limits to begin on. And that's that's establish and i i think it the reverse of that is a little bit true civil. We do pretty intense gaming with difficult services and Video games that really requiring a lot of cognitive skill a lot of Stepping reaching all at the same time. If somebody reaches that's proactive. But now if the floor moves in unexpected way there's a reactive component to that activities. I think you get a little bit of both home in what we tend to call a proactive activity. But i don't know that that are scale would be able to distinguish. But i do think what it would find that as you do the task and what we have found when we apply this to reactive tasks certainly you know that people find the thing to be easier as they go. I think that is because they're able to have that set ahead of time where their their center of mass is in a better location to resist the type of perturbation. They're about to get on their basal. Supporters better set all of those kinds of things. Still so going back. Sorry i didn't mean to step on your words going back to what you said a little earlier about reactive balance being more challenging And i and i think i also heard that it's more modifiable through interventions which is exciting if you touched in someone's apa's and used your scale. And then. i went in and did reactive balance. Which would i anticipate that. They're perceived stability Rating would be different if reactive bounces indeed more challenging That i could see if i really got reactive versus if it was still an apa. Because they didn't do it. so great. And i still got the same score. I don't know. I know that You know the evidence seems to say that if you're training reactive tasks as you learn the task you begin to develop not just this more favourable set ahead of time but also if the task is slow enough for known enough you can develop. Aps to the reactive task which is not what normally happens in a reactive task. And i think that that's part of the learning. I think it's probably all adds into why the person feels less challenged and i and then go along with each other right that. If the person is more successful in recovering to that perturbation they probably felt less challenged. That's the logic of it But i don't know it would be interesting actually to look and see if you can differentiate some of those.
ANPT Balance and Falls Special Interest Group
"dr debbie" Discussed on ANPT Balance and Falls Special Interest Group
"And in looking at that. It occurred to me that there is no way to measure. How difficult is this balance task for this person. You can measure. How fast is the floor moving. Or how much force did. I use to nudge them. You can measure if it's proactive. You can measure. How far forward did they lean on. How quickly but that's measuring the performance. That's not measuring how hard the task was so. I did a lot of research in the really. There was nobody measuring intensity for balance training. If you go to dose and exercise program you need to have the frequency the intensity type in the time that intensity portion is easy for weight since easy aerobics. Easy for stretching. It's easy for most of the other. Modalities that we administer but it's not motor. Learning is another example where it's not easy to dose the intensity level. But it isn't didn't so i worked with students at a colleague to just brainstorm ideas for how we might measure this and we came up with something that sort of a modified of the visual analog scale the scale urban paraded both And i in doing a lot of reading decided that i believe that this balance intensity is a lot like pain that it is Individual to the person that we can't look at from the outside and say this is this heart for this person or this hard. Just you can't look at somebody and say they're experiencing this much pain because everybody perceives pain differently there just too many systems that going to balance that we've had students where we set up a bunch of different tasks symbol twenty students come through some really welcome slack line but can't stand on a bosa ball to save their life and vice versa and just different people their experiences the bodies they different things are challenging to different people that that's really great and at one of the things that Trying to go through and and catch up on my csm presentations because there's some amazing presentations This really resonates with me because One of the speakers was lou national and he talks about a lot of times what we call reactive balance people kind of anticipate unless you're really good at mixing it up and so you might be scoring reactive balanced but really it's an a. as And i wonder if your scale would help get at that. I don't know i. I completely agree though because even with Mechanical perturbations joe. Pryatta somebody whether it's eight participations standing provision trauma perturbations certainly it. It's well established that once the person is done at once or twice or three times. They changed their their set ahead of time so that they can respond more easily or so. The probation doesn't push them outside of their limits to begin on. And that's that's establish and i i think it the reverse of that is a little bit true civil. We do pretty intense gaming with difficult services and Video games that really requiring a lot of cognitive skill a lot of Stepping reaching all at the same time. If somebody reaches that's proactive. But now if the floor moves in unexpected way there's a reactive component to that activities. I think you get a little bit of both home in what we tend to call a proactive activity. But i don't know that that are scale would be able to distinguish. But i do think what it would find that as you do the task and what we have found when we apply this to reactive tasks certainly you know that people find the thing to be easier as they go. I think that is because they're able to have that set ahead of time where their their center of mass is in a better location to resist the type of perturbation. They're about to get on their basal. Supporters better set all of those kinds of things. Still so going back. Sorry i didn't need to step on your words going back to what you said a little earlier about reactive balance being more challenging And i and i think i also heard that it's more modifiable through interventions which is exciting if you touched in someone's apa's and used your scale. And then. i went in and did reactive balance. Which would i anticipate that. They're perceived stability Rating would be different if reactive bounces indeed more challenging That i could see if i've really got reactive versus if it was still an apa because they didn't do it. so great. And i still got the same score. I don't know. I know that you know the evidence seems to say that if you're training reactive tasks as you learn the task you begin to develop not just this more favourable set ahead of time but also if the task is slow enough for known enough you can develop aps to the reactive task which is not what normally happens in a reactive task. And i think that that's part of the learning. I think it's probably all adds into why the person feels less challenged and i and the go along with each other right that. If the person is more successful in recovering to that perturbation they probably felt less challenged. That's the logic of it But i don't know it would be interesting actually to look and see if you can differentiate some of those.