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S1E12: The Empire Has to Crumble! Repectfully The End is Near New England Patriots | Doug Peterson - The Best Coach in the NFL

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S1E12: The Empire Has to Crumble! Repectfully The End is Near New England Patriots | Doug Peterson - The Best Coach in the NFL

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Way south to my main man. Aj by series. And I'm still trying to get Jay Beck into the building none saying that's the that's a real crew and they'll be got Fox executive producer. No set ricky building all right. So I'm I'm despite brought up. I was I wanNA start off the show. I WANNA wish everybody a happy and a very prosperous twenty twenty the decade. We're going into a brand new decades so much going on. You need to be paying attention to what's going on around especially in America especially in the nationally if see how you know how you can fit in this new economy and how in this new society and will your voices and how can you manifest that boys to maximize your quality be a life so we need to think about some of these things like. I know people talk about New Year's resolutions and things like that. Hey listen all those things are important. Like everybody should be out here thinking about any flexing on their life not only from a year's perspective but from a decades perspective and even from life and even look at your drone no matter a how you know you know no matter where the scars are in your life. You all have scars and you all had been knocked down before and we all have to find ways. The the contract emotionally spiritually pick ourselves up every day. You know what I'm saying and pick ourselves up but we should always set some meaningful goals in life and basic goals in terms of things and how he can improve upon ourselves every single day like. That's what this thing's about. That's one of the the secrets of life is about. You know mastering yourself into becoming the best person that you can possibly be the b today and how can you do that and how so. How can you become the person that you want to be if you do not set goals if you do not set goals? So that's why the when people try to hate on the New Year's resolutions or golden. Sometimes it takes time to talk to two weeks though those go but if you set them and then you always try to look in to strive to reach those things. Then you know and if you don't meet your goals both look and find out why you haven't reached those things and try to correct those things the following year two thousand thing. You know what I'm saying. That's what that's what we're striving to be the best the best you that you can passively beat yourself so you know what saw for people say. Well how do I get there. I know like how can I become the best person that I can be this. podcast we talking. We're not technically talking doc in sports we're talking you. So how can you get there in ways I. I tried to tell people to get to that to that. Certain certain point go no further legal look at Kwanza you know. I mean like people celebrate Christmas and they celebrate Thanksgiving and get attached to these European holidays into these two. Sometimes they don't have any true connection connection to to your way of life to your well. Being nosy Thanksgiving has say was about giving things and celebrate with your family back. The origin of that. The origin of that holiday is so heinous and is the epitome only of white supremacy. I really have a hard time trying to figure out why anyone would want to celebrate thanksgiving. Any person of Kulla Doc. So now me jump to Christmas all the the the biblical in the spiritual connotations regarding the holiday doesn't necessarily hold weight on the date of the twenty fifth. Now you just want to go out and and do something and have a day. Where where you WANNA praise ace your as your savior indeed these as Christ? That's all cool. But but but try to attack actor to his birth. Seems you know not Nestle accurate if it's on the twenty fifth of December or if you just want to call it the season a giving and try to make it into that into making that Perspective or trump of volunteer. That if I understand that too but again the elements of Kwanza is all about self. Improvement is all about community improvement for black people created in one thousand nine hundred sixty six by while Nina. Carita of cour- I mean Karen. I'm screwing up his name but he's a Pan African He he was a pan. African A scholar who used to work at conference State University in Long Beach in key created principles for African Americans principles in which we should live by everyday. And these. If you live yeah by these principles increase such goals around these principles. You can become a better person. Must Stop because Kwanza has seven major principles. And like I said you if you if you apply these back to your quality of life everything then if you to to to your quality of life every day and you you set your goals based on these principles uh-huh so that's so motor is the first day of Quantum Crohn's it's not just in case you know and that is to an Emoji means unity like you. I'm I'm saying. I haven't a concept of unity within not only with the your family within your community within your environment to have some personal and intern have some even economical attachment to to the things that are Brown's you to strive for and maintain unity in family community munity nation and race. That's what you stand for. That's the first principle Kwanza so unity connecting to family community Nason Senate race. That's the first thing that principle to your life. The second one is self determination screwed his name to him turbo with names. You know what I'm terrible we're thinking works. But the second principle Ponza is self determination and the right not see and his coup who g CIA Gulia cool down Google which is means self determination. That's the second principle of Cuaron Kwanza and this week in this just basically you know it's all about you. This principle refers to defining taming created and speaking for oneself. This is about who you are as a person. What makes you great find out? What makes you great? Set Your goals upon things that you know that you can accomplish because you are a great person you can achieve great things no matter how back no matter what you have done in your past your future. It's right in front of you. You can change right now. You emoji means collective work and responsibility and now I mean you. Jima means collective work and responsibility. That's third principle and this is to build and maintain community together to make our brothers and sisters. Such problems are problems in the Saab them together. That's why you know like when everybody talk about the violence in the poverty in our communities and some of the issues in our communities we need to think about how we can solve these problems within our own communities. You know what I mean. Respect each respect your neighbor as your brother treat that person by next right next to you as your sister as black people we gotta start respecting black lives when we say black lives matter that also includes black people to bribe. You gotta believe. It's not just everybody else to to respect that notion for everyone to respect that notion. So That's principle number three. Is You as you as you Jima. Collective work and responsibility now. You Know Jammeh is cooperative economics. This is this the first two of gifting. Your communities economically support community support back businesses by t-shirts by close close by food support. Your black owners your black businesses. You Black Congressman. Your black politicians support them be involved in being involved in your community from an economical standpoint. Figure out how you impact your community economically mclane. What can you offer? What can you sell? What services can you provide? And how can you support others. That are providing uh-huh services so it's okay to use a black accountant to go to a black lawyer saying all the time then I must have no black people. I know that they're going to cut you an invoice. The problem is as businessmen and as business women and ask and as an as an as an S. customers but people need need to respect one another's craft and not downgrading affect that. They're doing it because because they're back leaning that if I ah if I'm making the t shirt and Polo is making. A T shirt is a t shirt support. This were my can't support my joint. It's important for us to understand that. So so so you. JEMMA means cooperative economics. That's number four. Nia means purpose and a half to make our collective in case in the building and developing of art communities to restore people niche traditional greatness. You need you need to feel good about yourself. You need to have some purpose to have a direction. That's when the stands for that's the fifth principle to find something that I do believe in to make them saying the found something. Thank God you're breaking to get your purpose meaning that even if that Peter Best fighter that you can be you can be the best husband best boyfriend for something in out these millions the things to do in this World Foshan purpose in where you fit in best Nia Koumba means creativity. This is something that everybody person can can adapt to. I'm saying understand that we are the creators of so many different ideas. Embrace your creativity embracing my embrace it thinking if you don't understands something learning figuring out the information is there is all over the web is all information is around you have to go wotton seek it. Do Do not let your creativity is being stunted by knowledge. Do not let that happen. If you have an idea for pat at you can't build it fossils that can do it understand. got a bodies things. That's number six in a Mani. Means faith now understand. No basically is you gotta have Jeff Faith in our parents in our teachers are leaders spiritual spiritual advisers. You gotTa have some semblance of faith of a higher path of a higher power something bigger than yourself a mining build your goals bill your goals bill. Your resolution goals for twenty twenty and beyond off these principles based race talk. That's why I don't understand why more people do not celebrate this beautiful collection of like days that is designed just for black people. Aw be involved in quantity everybody everybody. It's all a part of the season giving. It's a seven day celebration. Let's get down with them. Disciplines park has got more radio really important. It's really important. Let's talk some Sports Eagles. NFL Doug Peterson Carson wentz disappear names. I just wanted to out there because Doug Peterson is probably the most unappreciated coots in the. NFL has down. Everybody talks about the coaches of the NFL. Who's who who's coaching again? It's always like you know you know I always envied or Bella check or It's always you know the kid out is always someone else Har Har Har Ball is going to get a a strong. Look no Sean Sean taken from the saints. All great coaches no. I'm not taking anything from these guys. Doug Peterson is not in to swing kings over the last two seasons nine into with a super bowl win under his belt. This season with over nine injuries to starting players nine major injuries meaning out for the season two starting players starting players this team valley that won their last four games. Every gain was a must win this season and he did it with a different gas. He didn't do it with ASTA on Jeffrey. He didn't do wit Nelson Aguilar. You know what I'm saying. He didn't do it with Jordan. He lost a lot of these guys Brandon Brooks and all of a sudden. You've got guys like Boston. Scott Bosses Scott Practice Squad Die Maus Sanders Dallas got her. It probably is. Aw is finally showing up practice guy player Josh Perkins who who's like a tight end slash receiver. He's like a hybrid. Thank God I never heard of the taper necked Robert Davis. I know everybody I everybody the I'm trying to I. Aw even the USC Bro. He wasn't even start at USC. I'm telling he wasn't Robbi Davis. He went to Georgia state. I will be lying to everybody. I hear if I told everyone that I watched a ton of Georgia state football. I'm not talking Georgia Georgia. I'm talking Georgia state. The big difference. What team gene is red? Black and white. The other team is I is I. Blue and gray is blue gray and white two different squads Georgia State University Georgia to Thirteenth Seventeenth watches out of Georgia reveller Georgia state. But I know that Robert Davis when out there the ball so you gotta give Doug Peterson credit for rallying his troops again for the third consecutive year the Furka second the third consecutive year. He's he's he's done this. He has pulled this trickle back to back. NFC East champions. You can say how ever you want to slice it. The Eagles have found a way to make this work. Doug Peterson has found the way to make it work every year. When his back is against the ball he he finds a way? You can't understand what he's only played the giants twice and he played a terrible breath a Washington team. And then you know Dallas. No you know you know the back I get up. We get all those things. But you still have to go impeded games and guess what over that period of time question with the best quarterback in football and I've been critical across them with all year long. I've living very critical but guess what do y'all Carson has learned how to up with the players around him in his different Geoffrey avalon. Those guys aren't really Carson Gods. They're not they're fold guys. I said this earlier in the season I sit individually Carson Wentz. It's going to have to get his own set of guys. He needs to get his own crew. Now we fought. The Jeffrey Agla was is going to be long term guys. We thought that the Song Jackson was going to be a nice two to three year guy. But you know what Jackson Body's breaking down you know Agla Agla. He goes all of this confidence and pretty much. Just checked out and in Jeffrey he's checked out and his body is just is just collapsed supposed to be cautious guys on all these guys either one a super bowl of or at one time of their career play. Nick foles Ads Showing Jackson so these these are technically not necessarily Carson. God's these foles guys these are Nikki's boys Carson with these new cates guys like Josh Perkins and Greg War who's been phenomenal nominee. I mean what hasn't been making a big place but with Greg work has been he's been a competently seaver. He's making the plays days that you need to make one third down thirty seven thirty eight thirty four. He's been that way and he has has made some big plays. I take that. He has made some game changing place like the play against Washington. So you know what I mean so these guys. These young guys won a hungry because our practice quiet squad kids Perkins Brunette Davis Ward Off. These kids Boston Scott the running back these guys are practice squad kids bordering on Mba. I coming in adult kids. These guys are going all out because this is their big sacked. This is the opportunity to to to prove ooh that they belong in the League and then playing for Carson and when God believe in their quarterback Gaza go out and try to make plays. And that's what these kids are doing. The cost of these scanning and Carson has took these young these younger fevers and made them his own. And that's what makes the eagles a dangerous team. Come Sunday has made. This team is on team. This is Carson's person's team not the guys that we thought in the beginning of season all the Gaza. We thought this is his team. Doug Peterson and do need some. And listen and you need sometimes games against teams like New York in Washington to build that the bill that coffins offense to build that commodity to win those games even though those teams are not good. You got us. Do Rep those games. You gotta go through the motions you you gotta go through the adversity. You Got Abuna Phil and build that chemistry like those things are such a necessity unless we're crossen. Listen wasn't Giddy with the other guy because one they weren't practicing they will always hurt and they were always complaining about how crossing wasn't getting. He wasn't funding. We're making place and I'm trying to say Carson was throwing darts all over. Yeah I mean he actually through some of the other game against New York what he but the difference between breath cautioned Vince and Carson now is that when Carson doesn't make a play it does not feel like the end of the world it does third and seven does is not feel like it's an impossible if you if you were incompletion on I now. It doesn't seem like the drive is over because now you have people that ah able to mimic plays in. Give some more credit to Doug Peterson and Dave. I say officer Canadian growth because they have turned the eagles into one of the best screening teams in the NFL. If not with Mal Sanders and in Boston Scott and data's got it the titans screens to garter hurt Scott and Sanders under screen game has been our biggest weapon weapon. Making the game simpler precaution. I'm not saying going. They dumped they dumped it down for what what what they did was. They started playing to our strengths. They started realizing that we had guys that can make plays in open field in terms of standards offensive line that can get to the first and second level quickly. Why aren't we running war screens and takes the pressure up across and that I play makers and nuts the rescue guys make as many places possible? That's what the Eagles have done. That's how you win. And sometimes you need some patsies in there to build that confidence flits over the last four weeks Carson Winston the best quarterback in the NFL has now. And that's statistically typically. I think his quarterback rating of one eighteen one fourteen Cupola agonize so I knows the highest the highest so we're getting to the point where so in Carson Wentz last four games. Let me just break this down. Yes seven touchdowns known substance. He's completing over seventy percent of his passes and yes Yes over he has just he has just around twelve hundred just under twelve love hundred yards his quarterback in that in that period of time is. I'm sorry it's one zero. ooh like one four so not so not one. Fourteen doesn't matter it doesn't matter he's still very good. I like. That's very very good. Seven touchdowns known exceptions almost yards. Four wins all must all must wins against divisional divisional rivals. So we go into the playoffs. Break those down in a second. But when we think about the best coaches in the league this is about. Doug Peterson my hint to me. When when we think about the ballot checks and some of the world and the harbor any we think about all these coaches we never talk about? Doug Peterson and being the elites. He's clearly clearly clearly clearly when the coaches in the NFL if not visionary coaching UNIFIL based on hand that he's been dope over the last three Seasons in the midst of all that Super Bowl I mean I mean listen. I got respect for Pekao SPEC for audio the coaches the bottom line is doug is just as good if not better than all of them. I mean W- It was time for him. The Golden Ginsburg head to head in the Super Bowl beat him so I so you gotTa give the Eagles another pat on the back this year. They did not quick and they usually could acquit this year. This team was better. Kim begging again attacked him. Pick but you know what the difference is is that they care and when they start Karen and they start showing me as they really we care star again and as a fan and as one who loves US team. That's all you can ask for. Is Your team cares. That's coats care. Is that your quarterback cares. Is that the prayers deepest that they cared. Guys like Malcolm Jenkins Brandon Graham. Cops those guys care saying those guys those guys do brand he cares vinnie curvy cares. Young corners is actually stepped. Up a bit Goss. Sidney Jones is playing better. Look Block is one of the more underway and players in one this team. I mean so. These guys have a lot of pride. This team does have a playoff pedigree. Dow Peterson Peterson is one of the best leaders of men in the NFL. If not the best. It's not the best tom but Doug Peterson especially if he comported game off against Seattle gives me as one of the best in the NFL. This pocket got word radio. If you go wait wait. Wait around people standing building coming up next break down the playoffs all the games over the weekend while car week. This podcast guk were radio. 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Jj Watt is coming back saying so. That's huge for the Texans. I mean I. It's just there's no way to save that wasp presence just from an emotional standpoint would not impact this game in my opinion so I just think watts presence on just knowledge of of of just knowledge of being on appeal understanding protections and schemes. The other teams are trying to do. It can only booster a Texas defense. Who has been a little as of late? I mean the Texans have not been as efficient as one like the you know the loss to the titans going into the final game. So you know it wasn't a must wins. I think they you know they. I think it Kinda you know. I'm not saying they took it. I'm pretty sure they want to win. Outright I mean they had the visit to lock them but the bottom line here. Is that the Texans over the last couple of weeks. They haven't looked strong. Wonderful like they went to tune. LS Four Games. One loss coming to the Broncos at home so you've got to think about but the beauty of the Texans is that they do have to watch and they have an and and in Watson his own if you really look at Washington I can only remember being blown out once and if it's in his entire career career I've never seen watch him like the only time in his entire career. Even at Clemson or with the Texans and destroy as a quarterback is when he played against the March Jackson this season but when they lost forty one. That's the only time that I can be member. Disown Watson not being an efficient quarterback but just so you know Watson had the mazing season this year at one time of the year he was considered an MVP candidate kind of died down from that. Because the MARLINS assistant so incredible will get to that in a second as well. But you know I sixteen. TV's trump touchdowns he has a QBR of oral of almost seventy which is which is way above the average. I think is I think he's in a top top. He's in the top ten. QBR In his quarterback rating is by very a solid. He's also has no the Hopkins in we'll and we'll hover there. So he has all the tools fools he needs he needs a running game. He knees Duke Johnson. To in my opinion to step he needs to step up. He needs that solid running game. Those two guys are going to have to be able to run the ball at least a little bit on on Buffalo. The problem is that the buffalo you know. Give up the rummy that one the best teams against the run DOC Buffalo's one of the best teams against the run so I mean their third overall and defense and against the run against the buffalo ranks They rank about ninth so ninth overall. I mean at third overall and defense and ninth overall against him and so like the bills are very stout team. Defensively Sophy the fact that you have to go to go to Houston and paying that on that field. I don't think Houston's home advantage is that big of a factor because they play indoors in. That dome is comfortable. The thing is is that before watching is extremely special quarterback they have a primo weapon in the Andrea Hop in Hopkins in. This really has to be a year when the Texans can get out the first round around. I think the only tuna last two seasons in the first round so it is really time for them to make that next step for even for Watkins Walk Ins Watkins to make the next now on the flip side. You have Josh Allen First Time in the playoffs and listen. I know there was a lot of knocks Josh coming out of the draft and I was critical. I didn't think Josh is going to be as good. He's been how about that. I'm going to be fair I. I don't think Josh was going to be. I didn't think Josh is going to be as good as he's been but in his defense he's been very solid even a very solid quarterback one one that a team rally around. He's a playmaker and he can make plays that a lot of players. Just can't make that's awesome. I'm just being rich. Josh Allen can do things that some guys just can't do way he can throw the ball the way he the way he he can run the ball the way he tried to push the ball down. The field and Josh Allens job is pretty much as you know. It's the kind of keep the game coast like you know. Give us a chance to win. It is not. It's the. It's the pain a mistake. Free football this year. He had. I mean. Think about twenty touchdowns and non substance that nine sections is key for Josh. The non interceptions. Keep him he's an internal in in total. QBR He's only ranked twenty fourth life. So he's he's. He's also twenty four in quarterback things so if you go to their advanced metrics for Josh Allen and you will see is not that great of a quarterback but but he can make the kind of place that can break your back you have to acquitted court because the game because boom you would try to sack him he ripped he breaks a tackle semi yards the balls. In the Air Bank touchdown it works just like that. And that's the kind of guy is so basically what what what the Texans have to do is make Josh Allen playoff a four game of quarterback keep them in a pocket making read the defense make him make tough does keep him in. Don't let him run outside. Don't let him outside the pocket. If the Texans can do that initial Shawn Watson can get rhythm with Hopkins. I I really do like the Texans here. Okay the next game we have in the AFC unfamiliar the the patch shoots the number three seed against the titans now under me if they could get the patriots in the wildcard. Oh clock round the never always have I always in the the number one seed well this year. Lamar Jackson has taken over the number concede. The number two is anybody McCain's impractical homes so brady this year got has to. He's going to if he's going to be back back people champion if he's going to pay if he's going to get that seven ring he has to do it. The highway. He has to win an extra game. In foxboro borough is the titans wonder how to teams in the NFL and Dirk is one of the hottest players in the NFL creeps kimmy every wound up leading the NFL rushing. He had over two hundred yards in his final game of the year against the Texans that I just talked about and guess who else is hot. What Channel Hills rose? Hi why Tanner Hills hot since Ryan Tannehill has been inserted at the starting quarterback of the Tennessee. Titans he is he has the highest quarterback rating in the NFL. I think in that occurred in week seven. We took over for Mariota in to the hill. Was this a so-so prospect in Miami. Of course he was drafted one but he never believed to hike and now he's making plays all over the feel you have the running game with Hillary and you have ten of helping the house level. You have the titans look like a real contender. They are of real threat to the Patriots in Foxborough be because the Patriots are still struggling to muster up offense and the titans play cold weather. Football won the ball tight defiant. Don't give big plays. That's what the titans do. I'm picking upset right here. The king the king the CIA eventually got to go down the Patriots eventually. Sweet half the crumble. The Empire has to crumble. Just took survival has Scott walking. We gotTA Crust Trust Empire once and for all its Tomlin crushes empire once and for all so the Patriots to me a right upset right now against the titans the titans have the form that got the pieces in place to pull off oft upset. They run the ball and have the regular fishing quarterback in the Patriots. Kit Muster up offense who auto pay makers. I'm the sunset. I don't know what's new and I know. Now where are the Patriots playmakers. In my in my opinion I just don't see where they are. I know so and Tom. Tom Brady for all of his great skills. You can tell in his knowledge you can tell that the end is near. We don't gotTA fake it. It's cool to be real child. I'm pretty sure he's going to prove everybody wrong but eventually father. Ah Tom Catches up with everyone. It's time it's time man. It's no secret that the Pacers in this position because they weren't good enough. They lost to the dolphins last week. It was a must win game. It was a must-win game. For New England. New England had to win that game the first round by and they could not do it. They just couldn't do it. They did not have the talent they they just couldn't do it this. Listen the titans if they don't get if they if they go in their focus with the game playing if they won the police can run the ball and can play action off the run and finally young young receivers in the past passing game and if they really they can put up twenty four points they GonNa Win The first twenty four Wednesday game title import off Sunday. NFC Sunday I gain got the saint invites to teen who over the last has three years. WanNa be both teams one young both teams. They should beat us the vikings gear here before the Saints Peter Slash here but even still. They didn't make proteins. Think they got the rights to thrown in. The states may have a point here. You know the Vikings from a talent perspective effective are just as good as the saints. I mean this is. These are two evenly matched teams. There are two don't teams so the weather was not going is is is really to me if you break these squats down. It comes down to the quarterbacks who do you trust the most. What coach do you trust the moat like? Do you really trust kirk cousins. Outdo Ju- Breeze I. I think that's the deal here. I think there's no way else to break. The dummy defenses are almost the same. The the the the the weaponry you talk about cooks and Chimera and you talk about you know You you're talking about the The Saints receiving core compared to the Vikings. I mean they're all similar there are there are similar. They got weapons. Both teamed up but then when you look at the quarterback in breeze in cousins who who do you trust gotta go over breeze here I just I just feel as though I just feel as though the saints while the Vikings have also been knocking at the door. They had their chance last last week to win the division and get a home game. Put the packers in this position to be playing this game and off. They lost the game. They had the game won last week. They did they did in a I disliked Aaron Rogers come back and pull that game out of there at two weeks ago. I'm sorry about that two weeks ago. That was a game that they had to win any day now. So in my opinion of the Vikings Vikings are team that are still searching for that right quarterback to take that that that defeats in all their offensive weapons to the next level kirk cousins Nagai. And maybe a and if he is he's just not good enough to beat this saints team. Ah and why are we talking about the saint. While we're on the saints isn't isn't it about time I mean the MPP that no one talks about is Michael Thomas. He's shooting. MVP that no-one discusses. I mean he had a phenomenal phenomenal year. That's that's that's all give Michael Thomas a south because he he broke a hundred and fifty balls one hundred and forty nine percent go aliens so he he He actually a hundred and forty nine balls for seventeen hundred yards over seventeen hundred yards. He broke a fifteen year old record. ACKER South Michael Thomas so I mean I just think the saints are just more constructive. They're better the better battle-tested they they are thirteen and win team clean and wildcard round. I'm pretty sure that pisses them off. And I just think that Sean Payton has been preparing his team for this moment ever since they got jobbed last year in the playoffs against the rams with that blatant pass interference. This is this. Is there now time things might even be my darkhorse work. WHOA I four? The Super Bowl by getting a might get into that yet. As long as my boys is in the game and we gotta break on the final one between the seahawks and the birds and the intangibles here are just perfect. Putting the Eagles you have a West Coast Team Traveling East Coast the playoff game in a game. That should be you know a little bit a little bit chilly. The outside if not I'm gonNA check the weather in this game and I'm GonNa Check your right now while it's on in poverty and let's let's check the weather for this game for this. Eagles Gain Eagles Gang AC- well let's see what we got here on them off on that. No civil off Lincoln. This is well. This one Tom. Mount Aries Ans- dance when the weather pop up our tech but the goggles to that fact. The bottom line is an outdoor game. We were sitting. Bob Bother Seattle much coach. Okay Sunday the weather's going to be forty one so it's not going to be cold but around game Tom. We're talking about thirty. Three degrees is going to be in that while that eagles fans are going to be crazy and the one thing. THAT SEATTLE'S IS GONNA found out this time can printed last time if they're going to be facing a confident Carson Wentz. They're going to be facing a giggles team. That believes that they can win this game. Not Coming off tough losses against Dallas that bull off loss of Dallas and then two weeks after that that embarrassing loss awesome against a again against the Patriots. This is going to be a confident. Eagles team after winning four consecutive games to you know to overcome yeah now Seattle is not front loaded team. They have all the components. What's Wilson I mean? Really if it wasn't for the Mark Jackson just kind of like Saturday all all kinds of records in terms of production and quarterback Ray Ray rating and QBR and Russian stats in and touchdown passes and all kinds of stuff like that. If it wasn't for that what's a Wilson probably will be the MVP. Probably it'd be. Will it be tied right of course but he Mike Russell Wilson is still the best general in the NFL. Him and drew brees. Brady's on some other shit. We've talked Brady's Jordan you don't WanNa call me. He's all he's older now. He's regal if another shit. But so you don't worry about in terms turns of Modern Day generals and you WanNa talk about somebody who's like under the age of forty you know what's the worst thing is that good he has more fourth quarter comebacks. That's more than more fourth quarter comebacks than any quarterbacks since two thousand twelve twenty eight twenty eight joints don't West Seattle. The beauty of that team is that will Russell Wilson. You know matter to be gone to the score. They never believe they added a game and even last week when they were being dominated by said friend for two and a half quarters they still came the inches. Just WanNa make a game team a quarterback who had the uplift guys around him. You know this mode on the team again. They got so many injuries everything so we look at this from a perspective. Seattle are loaded from a team mm perspective and peak. How as a phenomenal coach but no coach as I said earlier in the show know coach the more proficient over the last two seasons and have been more resilient than Doug Peterson ducks turf? You traveling three thousand miles and probably probably the most hostile on in in the most style stadium in Seattle. They do not want to come back to Philly. The first time they want here a month ago I was actually made just a bobber gang was it was cold. It was great. I mean I'm listening. Greatest Seattle weekly can adjust well. But it's just different in Philly. Louis the smell. Is this different the animosity that hatred is different. The place in the country trust. They do not want to eat here this week and they hear you know cloud I mean but for Matana standpoint EXCU auto release of windows game. But I'm just saying that this is a such different eagle team in from a confidence standpoint. I really think it's a fifty fifty fifty game. I really believe it's a fifty fifty game. The point spread is even saying as much because Seattle's only favored by point and now way more talented way. More talented than US came back have could win. Rookie of the year like a Mile Sanders fighting for rookie of the year. I mean not tax some type in this game but throughout the course of the year Santa's came out. Strong mccafe has been consistent all year. So here's the deal. The trick is not letting Russell Wilson Win Games on third down. Aw that's where. The Eagles defense must win. The Eagles Defense gotTa Win Their Fair share on third down they need to keep Seattle Onder. Twenty four points at twenty four is key because twenty four the key point twenty four points is very key and in the playoffs once you start hitting on twenty four to twenty twenty eight point nope number in the playoffs. Your team should win because defense should prevail and some some semblance so you see here. Is the key Seattle within that twenty. Four seventeen to twenty four reigns. Eagles will have a chance to think. While Seattle's Seattle's defense is very talented. They they over pursuit and we owe and when you over pursue you can get caught on. Screens draws draws a misdirection plays plays that perfectly for guys like a Mile Sanders often Often a ball by Boston. Scott Greg Ward those kind of plays and don't be surprised to not be surprised if Greg Ward those past this week disciplines pockets radio go way way way behind with small people standing building. I'm picking Eagles. 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Ataman had a man happy new year. y'All these building does so mad. Two Thousand Nineteen was into humble opinion was a pretty decent year for it was it was it was I because in the beginning of year started off with you know just to set it off with just a pack cow Bruna joint. I don't know what I'm saying with the pack cow Brunen drink was like let the term exactly tactile Thurman and we say well while we say We we say while while before Wa Brazil. While the Brazil's which which in my home humble opinion was was the knock out of the year. No no no. What's his name? He goes come to me. I'm tripping mayweather God. Meanwhile the Guy coups Whitney tournament that got knocked out to beatty to beatings got knocked off. I'm assuming to come to TD. We we got knocked out cold. I forgot we got the beat the burden today. Bss The tournament he got. Oh and the Not the talking about the The junior welterweight doing nutty guy they got to the crew at right right but what happened with the the crew thwaite drink. This'll hold Dan guy became. Don't have that brand is brand. He got knocked out cold though. But I imagine with while the one we we had We were J rat. We identify early early. Okay yeah so so so we have heard. Oh listen how can you get about Joshua's number where it'll give June. I put it like that like that was the biggest upset of a the decade kind of close. But I understand what you're saying. I mean if you look at the ads for that fight it was like thirty one. I think we're supposed to be upset. Pseudo which was sleater Loma Shinko. Okay so the only say I'm not I get your point. August twenty. Nobody chance and one chance to how it's the Ledo came in five pounds overweight where he played the system. And you know Loma Moma. You can't even five pounds a week and fighting the second fight second or third fight as a pro. You know what I'm saying so whereas in this fight year where Joshua we. He was a late substitute. They saw big pointed out. Big Kazak. Hit Houston did you steal. Hey go here he might be to Hukou Hukou bag lose a year. You gotta think about roll. My Gosh we make six seven and the first fight thirteen in in the second best twenty million Twenty Mayor Big Baby Twenty Mehnaz leisure twenty million easily go. Let's get ten year but why Jiu Stone you get not getting knocked out with juicing console autozone to give them a fast what he do. He's he's been juiced kickboxing before. You know what I'm saying. We'll talk about that job Cheetah but once about Cheetahs the whole point is he he the backlash backlash she did Abe even in defeat against Joshua if he had had a decent shuttled. Exactly Saudi Arabia. Could they quicksilver they had. They had They have Easy Joe's those apartment over there do easy had him in a ring with him back in Michael Hunter you six art like autos gone army army fights and Miller could have been right in the mix of all that and you know. He does blue as he says he disowned. Dame bringing back though down Rigoberta Menchu window who now bring brothers back from cheeto like they take a while from the comeback think about it willing Monroe Inc will wonderful women though I mean I actually I just I just saw his name okay around and maybe a smaller okay I think cutting PBC dropped him. I could be wrong. PVC got jobs over it over. I follow me on twitter. He was looking for a fight. I think we probably fiery tweeted out by tweeting right buggy. I know we're looking for a fight which you don't bring us back which he does that. Quick it does it will come back. Defense though are so another. Huge fight was the spent supporter fight. Just a good fight. GREAT-GREAT-GREAT GREG fight greatly fi candidate Kennedy. An in in a in a spence solidified himself with the with the Mikey. mikey fide early. I know well between between Mikey fighting Puerto Fight I mean he's identified himself as the PC star this year but at the end I mean if he if the accident never occurred. He's he started PLA. Uh No no nothing is earl but you got Tanka Tanka start art getting the people not in the take one win away from being a superstar but I get you for earls Likable Guy I get your point he was GonNa Long Guy Okay. So don't you know house zone has Nello triple j top through exactly that like he was going to be in Eh type he was gonNA need. It was going to be wilders spence and let's say in don't don't sleep on what's thinks he got that Fox people people are talking about though Kayla plane intimacy. Nobody's GonNa pump them up back. He's going to get that Fox. Treat me you see you see you see he on Fox Wchs in Toronto Zone showtime devante on showtime. That's floyd on a date. Flu Being Luis Espinosa. Well well. Okay okay. So let's talk about that a bit because man for a man right Espinosa they got the nut. Like what they're trying to do is MIT mitigate geico relationship between Fox and showtime because. They don't want facts so tom don't want to take on the talent And they've vallery pretty much taken wilder xactly but with this what I would do see snow song. Do Right on the job over this need to do right. hyg As we had a lot right he took all the scraps graphs and made some begging ads. Gumbo by the guy. Do they gotta get okay if I if I were on showtime okay I got Gary Russell Got Bronner. If if you give me tank you gave me one child. Oh I got you let me know working with you can make a lot of fighters if if you tell me if you give me the budgets of millions and I got these fighters and I can make it work there so we can make it worse you can make the fights like the is to me. Danny we got you know this. This is a really bad year for him. He fights for once and his next fight is against. Yeah no one but I think he was promised son I think he promised PETCO right. He was promised cow seat thing about I think pack or Smith because they get like this. He's in fighting the South Pole. Earl Smith me pack softball and he'd give me philosophical so why don't you think Apac cow the pack cow. Oh God Sia didn't go go down as of yet I mean like like why wasn't that define for February because mommy is a wave boy. No debt and I think is because member earl and Danny's would have been January twenty six point five something like that so maybe many wasn't ready for the week. My Gosh on political things over Philippines but no they say meaning twice issue so we can see how they go they say Mikey or ordained well. I'm thinking I'm thinking it'll be most likely Dan because Mike Mike he fighting. What February or March Mike Mike? You find a march he find. That's a march through June date. I think made him in June so I can see Danny no man. I don't know man because like you said. PVC They suffered under under my whole thing with Danny is that You know he for Granados last year in one set out the whole entire year Up The BAT influence I understand. Aw I understand you know Bob Arum has been pretty much begging the PBC. perserve Danny up to Crawford and they can turn the fight down from what I heard what I heard. Last year they They send Danny three million dollars offer. I heard was I heard was more than that. I was like five. I see not a three Conga five and it's I talked commonsense Kinda get five me from. I often think about it. We alibaba any her at her. The first time the first phone call he got five me know Eddie negotiated by I. Don't think Dana Negotiate whom three to five the seven so you can't you can't negotiate. You can't get the fight if you will negotiate right fucking concert go. She ate it. You didn't go. She hit it right on the same day Crawford foot kind but I blame blame. Blame me Danny. But don't say off between negotiate right exactly exactly if you want to fight negociate defy. I want this fight. Let's make this because you can't because you can't tell me he got three minutes Granados. No you can't tell me I don't care what you say. How much back in a symptom? How much spurs? Dave is getting a million dollars for these kind of got to be generous. So you think how somebody else in the but I mean I'll check company. Could we here to get back in money. And that's my whole thing. You know a Asian new interview. He say he wants me now. If I Crawford I mean you want right exactly. That's not like our listeners. Hypothetically they gave him Tim Lee right and they get five million higher making money back on the car. You're not meet with Pakistan. Pay Per view for that to work would have had to be somewhere enough. Five to six hundred thousand author. Man I think it I- thousand I think the debt can that could define thousand and guaranteed guaranteed guaranteed. Five million a piece. Get back in my on the hot at work you know do it you could sell you could sell up because they got the amateur lull. I guess a fight to me. I don't know why Danny whitten take. I mean I mean to me a loss pack Gal lost Crawford so much better than it lost a man no is not now. His eyes could because he lost a legend goddesses. Peer that he grew up with he brought back so he lives in manny. Diaz bringing back against Shawn Porter Guga's or guess Jamal James or guess slipperiness right but use the Crawford. You're fraud what I'm sorry. I mean porter I mean I listen to me. I Toyota Puerto Expense in a great integrate. Fight I thought at the Puerto established himself as well in two thousand nine nine nineteen eighteen. To even even in defeat when it's always show much put-on we're GONNA fight because here we go. You say you say you say defense right right. I think he loves GUS. Well yeah okay but I like I like Shaun since since Most people know sauce are fighting with middle income. The people that are not by the move down he he started. I fight with at one sixty eight Lucy. And you're talking about so I watched Sean over the years. He he he he he read all the smoke as they say but you know he he definitely had I want breakthrough performace uh-huh he needed a break performance. I thought he did against Spencer. Mr Stolen for is just a knock knock knock knock knock down kill knock donkey. He got to reckless that. Knock down guilty all right so let's actually talk. Let's talk about one another as well tonight in nineteen numbers and dear to our hearts because Jay uh-huh gave he won a super welterweight middleweight championship and And now he's in the position to be the top dog there it's got him members. Reo and of the plan. I'm hearing Machado pay view in a really thought about so I'm not. I'm not enough out for three bells now. Offer about life life for three belts June. And I think that's going to be a great fight with the bill dealt with the story. The Bravo were Fox behind it. That's going to be a big fight in the win. Fight can be a potential star to win. That I can't care came to be a straw and I actually heard Bradman in on a another podcast. He said that the that the fight for travel after Williams wins his next bout coming. I'm not sure if he'll be coming out. Trying your come on man. I'm GonNa be there got you got come out man. You gotta come out if we don't we not at least I know you do anything you want to get into. Somebody's exactly. I'm being here though if I buy tickets. I'm going to join the La Brea Macedo but Brandman said that the fight for Charles Recycle Artan. Okay you know what we we all know anything about the tribal side but on our in that fight is less so they said that that Feis is due to happen sometime make spring May June. She so I love to see. I don't want to go into may know I wanNa may the big going Jones. Assume right exactly is Jim also thanked pack cows fighting Jim. Okay that's always a pack. Count Month to me like he likes to own June. 'cause 'cause could never has make nobody number floyd on no one was I think is September. I think it pack up Vol one's is GonNa make sure fight to these fights. He wants his body saying you know you just know how planes So I think if foyt boy does get mad if he gets. Manny is September. Okay I don't I think for you know he's just going to throw stuff out there now if I'm to fighters if if Florida's really serious about fighting if I'm to fighters about Crawford I'm calling Out For it but can now I might be calling for the sixth year. But you know he he. I don't say that you can do soft touch hearing do if you're GonNa do a fight he going to be going to be. PBC IT AIN'T GONNA be a Crawford who Or Canola Zone. ESPN so that he is with those. Are the two biggest fight still down here about that. I mean if that would be huge. Yeah but that'd be huge but not for the first one back you the first one bet you paying for the event you're not paying for the fight but he's only go so so you think adding onto become it becomes he come back next week this year. You don't by chance. I think he wants. Welcome for once you. Okay get both back get that back and get some okay. So so who were fighting me AM I. May what is about money. Anybody is about the about every may make if if if I'm GONNA BBC and come back. I will go I will go Puerto Lebanon's I could. Let's see doing it for they pick apart easy pull easy workflow. Easy work he can be at all times. That's not a normal. That's not a a fight. If not why not. He noted there's nothing is poor to think about it. He's no report are going to be every Puerto can't we will do boxing now. I'm asking. Why box AH mcdonagh find out over them up? That's what he wants you to do. A Madonna fight all though you come to his house you're thinking about Liberty's GonNa come in his house so he he does this one make sense if you say the first one is about the event is lupus right about this at all. You pay him a career. I I like three million keep autumn Brad. We personally like if Roy off I keep Denver. I bet his ass. I'm Kief but key if I could pick a name. I keep arming. And then we'll take the money. But that's a governor leave leave Thurman to me I listen while I thankfully will win the fight. That's not a move that make to me. The Lipid is one makes sense to me. Is that okay. The first fight is all about me. There's lots of jail. He exactly. It's all about got me The second fight is about me manny no conventional on business so I can see fluently doing In that way we're the first ones about me. The second one is the is is a guy named fully is moving as moving down. You'RE GONNA be able to we. He if I also try that one fifty five I see all right so we're word we're student about trump the worst. You don't trial is he's going to fight Crawford. Oh you're debt. That's the that's the fight. That trout is fighting. Did you hear that from somebody. Somebody you got the associated with somebody I I I heard. Did you hear that from sauce. Yeah Okay I got you I I heard they got in a bag for Crawford. We're not talking about asked about porter. He said we Dana Day on the table. Right now and somebody told me that they have in the works for right bass are so the key was child announced back in I think September that he was going down to one forty seven And that's all about Crawford because they trying to find real oh fighters for him. PBC Tudo now he's know PBC no more. I'm almost certain. And if he has they want they want something exactly like they're not cooking check. Yeah EH DO I. So child has pretty much told. Everybody's going back down to one seven. I think there's a fight coming up in February I mean in in an R. J. when his new channel to Bible Channel is a church China right. It's something yeah something awkward right and if you you win that fight. I heard that he gets Crawford. Okay I mean so that's something and Charleston name he's a gentleman's name gene he's a up a quote unquote bigger guy. If upcoming down took credit for being not they won't give up. No no even trout to me is a solid fighter. He's all he's he's he's been in MMA drivers fights and I'm saying but to me he's some of the important he just can't put him up. Yeah he I mean I know yeah he report he has big fights out besides CODA lots Canelo L.. Close he lost he lost to Charles Close. I mean so he always end defy your your yeah. He's always in right he's always. Let's see what trump so child next. Fight is coming up against Vo Basell Montoya and it say scheduled to be. Oh they haven't announced which is no. It's no wait. Yes Oh no wait. Yeah so it's not a wealth away. Fifth Fatty exactly exact-. I make for yourself for the big fight. You don't you sound for non title Fight Right. That makes fifty fifty and a half right so if he he wins if he wins if he if he can win this fight I think they've made savy month which For a while Claude suffering and master. First Puerta Crawford because 'em he wants to fight three times next year. Yeah and maybe. By the end of the year he might be able to talk walk into giving him Thurman. or or Thurman Thurman Day Thurman Daniel Porter Order but the key to all that is how well this fury Back so they do good business on that they can say okay. We can do this to be got a real. We're GONNA phone we are found you've got Fox. ESPN and we've got a real form and you know I think that if the form of between Fox. ESPN in some people. Think it's GonNa crack briefly million. I'll think so I don't Thanksgiving I didn't do five hundred thousand. I'll see big number. I see I see I see. Se about especially especially no pressure. No pressure they'll fight on. Get listen they're press of actually. They didn't blow traditional press tour because all their heavy promotion is GONNA. Oh come super bowl. No no no. No I get that. But why not do it three Presto because the because they the personalities to me it may a put like this. I feel you on that because the personalities you want to get them out there back in back in for new you want to get them back in the eye of the people right and that to me Got Makes Sense. If you would have like a Fox dead a fact produced Show in ESPN purdue. Show if you have one co-produced press to a show and I give my seat so you do one in like say La You know and the other joining New York. Ah just keep it real simple the three biggest cities you've got the fighters are we going to be in the MGM grand like like you say you know you wanNA come into come Fight ties you you do the the The circuit I e even though they were swaying. Do Charlemagne you do. I get all that but I just feel like you gotta make this a vent you got to do like I think the art I think I think I think this is going to be I think Fox. ESPN ESPN. The plan is to if you notice you've already seen the PROMOS. ESPN now on this basic like only national attempts to gain over this bro Croton. It's right within the old school with it like like. I said it takes six months. The view like build the pay-per-view building l.. Did them saying like so. Like like the press conferences. The one on ones like you got all these. ESPN PLUS APP. You got the sit down Andre Ward I wanNA see all that it should be like Don king style. Have you gone from C- city in this fight right right right exactly. No no no no no I I I think put it like this. I feel which appoint I like the posters and the barber shops. I like I like that. I like you know Whoa Even built up enough goodwill from them. I know a year ago. This this this you got run out of bed. Because it's been a while and people forget and this seventy where is football basketball baseball. That's GONNA be export beckoning back right but you got boxing horse racing. We got social media. We got all this subject the MSCI forget about a year ago right field. Forget what happened five months ago. Correct true true indeed but it was a great fight ended. You know like I said I want him. I'm a hater on down is like I don't feel like we'll do anything is GONNA do because they it could it talking three million dollars fee thousand. It won't crack a million. Wow you won't crack crack a million colossal. I don't think I don't think fearing I'll say a free. Wild is bigger than Crawford suspense. I think Crawford suspense is a bigger fight really. I think we can find somebody asked me was. I was the biggest bike to be made. I mean Crawford. I don't know the the biggest fighting me as AJ virtual. That's the big to me. Is Is Asia while wow that'd be big of because we champion for the bus. Big Right exactly. I think this is the young. No no no no no. No this is like Here we go. Fury in wilder is like Dharma versus Crawford or Dharma versus earl. It's it's it's a big fight but ain't defy it's not the fight Marquez. Respect out getting Khris Paco. Right I feel you. I feel. There's a big but I think the more we went to Carol beyond capable wrong with her exactly exactly right right I got you. You might be able to keep the being very horrible in a chain was just horrible like Emma. Aj hooked it up to Michael to sleep with the first five rounds. It's going to be they don't make up ain't no the back food water got while they hang while there ain't gonna find Joshua Johnson got found water right through fury fury's accommodating. His his whole thing is to frustrate you to the point. Where you're not fighting like the night do gonNA totally abandon your game plan? Because he's connor vows so much I just WanNa not this guy out and about and that's whoa how. We think that we should be Cannella. He can he can hot. Fear do people about that next guy to talk about bosses houses because I cooked the the canal thing to to meet this year. And everybody's getting on the final year but I swear that that Coppola Fla fight this left. Forget it just felt so fraudulent. It was that was A. He fired a year right but that was a does. It was a calculated plan. Doubt our Jacobs goofy talk to me is that but the copland was like the power remember. How the Senate this this happened Oscar Senate and even said it? We want undisputed so this week I bet he beat Danny Boob Google Vice. It lucky then we'll get undisputed right and all of a sudden boo boo to good twelve. Nothing right up now first round in job yeah right. Now I'm driving belts that may W. A. No online WBZ franchise bullshit deny bef. COME UP DOC GULFS. Who would you fight Shinco for it? That was a great fight to people. Forget about that fight damaging over triple J. That was that was a great fight. Brutal fight right. I think I mean I spent some Puerto was better Fi. I think different Jingo I was more like a more brutal. Oh fight I mean that. That was a five year. They endeavoured Kinko do that loss. He's perfect type of travel. He's no no dating on the same street that's a that's BBC. So I could see that. But that's a perfect FIFA charge on Charlie off stains sally building. They told me you bake during your next. Who Chris eubank J? Yeah right right right. And that's really chastity. We may see having your bank. It's Hamilton but this also don t move you get depressed. You'll have to fight up the day. You may drink and talk about got great. She sleeps in three rounds. He try going to sleep looking at me Charlie. Big Knock him out on Fox or showtime there. I mean you bring does have some talent. No no no no. He's not he's not bad he just he just doesn't own the he's an upper echelon out he's a a-class fighter put the CB he can be classed. Grab your eight class got fighting. So why is Charlie. Go to me avoiding Andre so like open. Let's openly say I don't WanNA I don't WanNA fight them. They got everything they say. That the what the dead zone dead zone. It's two two ways. In my opinion. She wants back in the day with fog his brother where he narrowly pulled but he never signed a contract. Let's let's see put up a fight arguments. He pulled out so people say well you pull up beforehand reliable and channel got the PVC thing behind the wheel. You say if I got on my side of the street street but Eddie come off seventy dollars one point five and a fight on the books we question you write the seven she might he did. He went over there. You got that seven million from his own. The Fi- Jesse Vargas. I mean so you know how that go so he. He bought the bag. So let's see. What are we going to do because boo boo? You see he wishing a merry Christmas and his brother twitter said he was going back and forth and the EPSOM. Listen we're just GONNA take a quick break discipline my pockets radio we go. Wait wait around with some people stating building. I got a special special guest as popular here in the studio so because it's going to take a quick break and going to come back and talk some more boxing. This is talk not the shit off the top do most. That's why she keeps me sleep in the talk to shock and you talk to the best thing about a three to four times Jamie Foxx mic shot stream of money on tax the dollars in Persia. She said don't want that lasted for instance. Some second movie I like his Reggie Miller now clearly such novel Brown when I was never tailed Taco place until now to you can tell me my face on a shift for the coach Hind companies. I like the you go by the whole comes. uh-huh might have smoked. Costa Rica's cool. 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But it's all good We're going to keep on this box train here so so we we actually talked about the Nello situation. which is next move in West is going to be next move and and and the word on the street for canal is biblically Joe Sanders uh-huh I know that fight makes a ton of sent healing healing rightfully pickens one hundred sixty eight title W W title and he's not a big big one hundred sixty eight guy big puncher name exactly it takes O as a legacy which he he he wants to legacy right now and then after that thinking thinking I think trump will defy hat exactly and I think that happens at one sixty eight I think that's I think that's the key I think the key is to get triple would you out of his out of his comfort zone so I mean it makes sense four can able to get a real belt to Maguy Gordon? They go up the in pounds and that'll and if you if you if you know. The strategy acted the second triple defy. He hasn't even for that one sixty but once Jacob's you right right you know what I'm saying. So he's only for the one sixty once and it's been pretty much say you know what I in our fight this guy. I'm everything is going to be. My everything is GonNa be on my own. My turns I'm I'm going to see a bad. Tricky wants to fight he going to awesome contriburti big on do not no no no. I'm no no triple to take that fight. A one citizens sixty but a much is he willing to give up now. The cool thing about this fight here between the potential thirty five between triple G and now is that because they both are on on their VIP persons are already putting my sad vise about Cannella when we want to win. Wants to fight them exactly so being smart exactly so this Incan Nello Mello is playing the game in terms of making guys. Wait and beat the body down you had to take a tough fight against A DEL TACO hello. Now he's GonNa Make Tripathi tripathy next by is going to be more of a soft Utah. Samaras something like this a softer five knockouts. Yeah exactly full. Actually I think he on the trilogy under car when Four Daring Chink offer got who he foot where he fought on the car. I mean I I guess I've ever seen five Chandran unification but we know he ain't shooting or do that. I mean that that makes the most sensitive. I mean triple D.. Pretty much saying it that he wanted to all the belts I that was his goal was to be undisputed middleweight championship champion and that went from. I'm fine go to have an an obsession with beating. Canal obsession is upset as undefeated champions. He'll you you could. You could walk your own legacy exactly go take Gopi Charles will be Andrey name got three thousand again and you force connote a fight bite you now. Because I have all the other bill and in the public in the public the the end amend it will also it would make Alvarez appear appear appear to be a doctor it would make my April. It will clearly give them the perception of and his Mexican and one thing about Alvarez. Is that the people like people do understand that he does have Tom. Cesar Chavez again again embarrassed himself but he he he just I think you got to almost earn a fight but you got the we own path. I if he got the if you'd be Charles M. B. Andrea got had three belts. People will be like Yo you talking. Give them to smoke but what people are maybe fight item so he he ain't. He hangs on rural crazy the main fight. But Hey hey he gangsters out. I mean we see rolls. Come on Bro so last week. I don't think this area we haven't been dug in the tank on that Michelle Campo so again Bowen tank fight. It's interesting because Cambozola is not really what he wants. What and he had an injury and unofficial official injury again like in the second round yeah tank prior to to fight did not make weight and he was moving up in weight week? Four the first the first time. That's also a not a great sign for him. Like how did you see taking his last fight and they can billy bang with all with all the stuff that like we I think tank if he focus he najem anybody right. I just felt like he and and see what he didn't. He didn't do his game. Boy He puts shotgun. He wasn't going to three folk shots. He was Tonka doubt so he was that one punch knockout and the uppercut. There's no like he seemed gamble gamble down a lot of times career. He been out before I mean so he saying that I'm gonNA knock him out. I Got Paul. All he found was Powell. I'm moving up on monarchy gamble moving up and he came out and once you become a family Nacchio Menachem innocuous got Prague and Olympia. He got what twenty three point three something like that. Yeah he no he no. He's no pushover as a student at a game here fighters so I mean so. It's like you get knocked out. And we ate right there for tango so he was motivated and he was in camp hope us right so he's getting great sparring right so I was wondering I was GonNa ask you about Lopez Nex I mean. He's he no. He had the phenomenal knockout of like me yeah. I didn't see that coming canoe. Lopez was mad. I seen a common identity. Come now early. 'cause Grischuk Oh me no right to call me when he when he gets you hurt. He hops absolutely see. I didn't think is going to be from St Shot Foam Lopez like a shot at the the hook or uppercut. I was going to be from like that's Komiya. We catching Lopez and he couldn't get reckless him get called back because they'll call me recording right how he got back in the fight so out those like a knife round concuss Komi what will actually being down cars that second round. Knockout impressed me. I didn't see that coming coming in so so one of the bigger fights that that we not definitely coming twenty twenty this past Loma. I like the kid really like the kid. You think you think Tennessee could compete. He he went around. I think I think he'd knock him out. You think you think you're catching would check hook up with a checkered Iran. He got started up. He can't go and see he distinguished. He can't go on hearsay. I'm Botham Ching-kuo Wadham Jingo. 'cause actually people think long when she goes This official wizard note. Lomas better off the front foot the back foot. So if I'm Lopez and that's on the bigger younger fighter collude Lopez we are released during. What's he likely right so he squeezes uses by them to meet went one hundred five? Say He's he says I'm only that's what he wants to fight Lohman now only got one exactly. So I'm a squeeze my bite on this and I'm GONNA walk walk as as now. There's going to be A. He need flashbacks. Legal fight can get walked down. Put pressure on that. He got he got to do with Keystone Don was supposed to remain. Pekka will be old man right A.. I know it ain't your time what she wants. She wants about great fighter. Once the the group is over. But you can't let me we're GONNA groove I league in the groove early. You'RE GONNA win. You gotta be uncomfortable for him from row one you go then maybe legal tie and I titled Relax Subsequent Chuckled Teeth a good check hook uppercut ranking set. It up he got oppression Oldman he could beat him for the moment and for all right soaking so you honestly believe that tank can actually connect to compete with the Lopez. Yeah he believes the hands of the world he got present he he got his shots can he. He Fall in love with power he kind of like how Charles One thousand four Chelsea. The fellow is Bob. which aren't the? It's hard not guile on top level box one punch as few one punts not. Here's an history of the game. Now you can set up so that oneplus one clean shot knocked them out right. Come on my last question to you before the night is out the decade is up we end the twenty twenty who was the fighter of the decade between two thousand ten two thousand nine nine nineteen me. Whoa I know what you we know how I feel about floyd but I gotta get with credit? Like he definitely was. He changed just in terms of how he changed the way you perceive boxing and how and how fighters men maneuvered through through the business now over the last ten. I'm to bring. Because he be pack Yao Picanello Madonna twice beat Madonna twice Rava Guerrero the Guerrero who was a Well nobody but I know he'd be I know he'd be Burto Kinda McGregor. I guess McGregor bigger. I mean the really. The two big ones are packed out. Canal the canal you Madonna twice Madonna really major invitation came down player indication. Okay heating done about Madonna to the Buffet Brown and Brown. So I mean I'm giving that he gave to quality fight. He came home in jail. He robbed Guerrero the fully. Madonna for Madonna's white. But it was it was it was guerrero. McDonald's twice burto McGregor. No McGregor wasn't part of the so. Let's let's let's get it. Become Kota. Kota was colder with the it was right before he did the fight. Right before the That was that was that June isn't me fight you that was that was. Hbo Fire Actually Does Hbo Fight. But Yeah I think thanks Lou and if I go he had Guerrero Guerrero was Oh it was. So then he went he went guerrero. Railroad can now go Madonna Madonna. Pack Yao Burto McGregor we we will year was Guerrero gravel were two thousand thirteen. Koto was two thousand twelve. Oh he definitely find it if he got on Sunday. Twelve a me either. Maybe think about it. Moseley was two thousand ten season thinking about the guys he beat he'd be Moseley victory. Tease Kodo Guerrero Alvarez Madonna twice pack Yao Bertel. Dav Close. It's not even close to a five. It'd be Floyd Floyd War. War occurred consideration. Paco Paco Klitschko and usage right. No own all. The cruiserweight kid won't give titus another decade that okay so chuck shot shot Tito retire. The tough on top of aloe are not yet I'm I'm Jay Cutler was was legit. I mean he has titans in there. I mean you got the triple g fight was tight. Takeaways fight within their was tight on somebody action the system. That's optical. Oh Okay you actually think you might have been Flaming hanging my fighting by decade. I I so can no. Ob Moseley washed Lopez ask Austin trout which everybody thought very very close off the floor. He beat he beat and Grupo fight was lost. The verify graphite was closed chazan. Google James Kirkland trash trash fight Koto but that was I give credit for that he you become not yeah makes sense. Yeah and then he fought Chavez junior trash razz triple g twice. Okay Give Yeah Los Angeles Window and he got Jacobs Kovalenko one window. But it's not Sean Floyd not find it done. It's not fleshed on. I mean this was. This was the decade for me. This guy left a backup last back. Look I think tank out well just pack out with just more riveting riveting in China the better that I just think he's walk through like this actually came. A document is because action. Listen document the document. I got more actually more killings than than the action movie documentary slower right. Dummies better right. It sounds like I mean we all know for the last twenty years. It's either I mean you really my fight over the last decade was Bernard. Oh Okay I'll give you. I was the last fight a between two thousand two two thousand ten two thousand ten two thousand nineteen but you know date probably. They probably won't give Benard Dad for the Tiller Losses Lowe's remains bison and then the second one I think he won the first one. I thought one I want to. I want both both which you because I've listened. I tell you I saw your tweet. That Inaki dropped cows zagging first round the first the second straight right then Kyle Zaki started dancing. PITTY PAT and puts in Bernard was in a real hard pitch. Would they say clean effective punches ring. Generalship Not Pat Pat Pat. You know what I'm saying so that you can change your right right. 'cause he oliver the glove punches exactly man but he threw Margherita was to me and punches down meeting with people write his name is Paul Williams me. Oh those dues to twelve hundred thank you. Oh awesome awesome fight but that was in the last last Aka Paul Williams at one time was my favorite fighting. Yeah I got knocked out by watching. I was not the second round. James serramonte surgery was a great great fire. That's always will want to see for all. Yeah I wonder what I always. I'm mad that could've got Martinez Leap Martinez leak could ask. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. Cou Cou blue and his leg was messed corden get Martinez surgery was always going to be a well. Yeah Surgery was done at that point. In time I keep cutting heinous Barpeta Fi. Na Na NA NA and was a check at that time. 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BGN Radio Special: Previewing the Wild Card w/Matt Leon

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BGN Radio Special: Previewing the Wild Card w/Matt Leon

"Hello Bleeding Grecian and welcome to a special edition of BGN radio radio. I'm your host. John Stolnis follow me on twitter at John. stolnis coming up. We've got yet another eagles seahawks preview for you. I hope your ear holes aren't exhausted with previews as of this upcoming game between the birds and Sea Hawks at Lincoln financial field at four forty eastern time on Sunday afternoon. But obviously it's big game lot of us want to talk about it and Yeah I've got great guest coming up here in just a minute. Break it all down for us Over the next little bit but again watching this team go from five and seven to nine and seven watching Carson Wentz Evolve Volvo into the quarter of an you know what not a huge evolution. But what he's done over the last month delivering these fourth quarter overtime. Victories for must win games in a row. They've won all all for watching. Doug Peterson work. His magic get into the play calling grew. It has been beautiful and obviously the city is excited to welcome Seattle back into Lincoln financial field field for a rematch of their seventeen to nine defeat at the hands of the seahawks at the end of November and joining me to break the game down. This wildcard matchup with your NFC East Champs taken on the wildcard seahawks is Matt Leeann from Kyw Philadelphia ten sixty A. M. Split. Put your the sports director. There Matt Correct Sports Anchor Reporter. We don't really have sports director but you should be the sports director of my pay grade. I understand understand. Well I mean it's great to talk to you about this game. Are You surprised that this team is in the playoffs. That they're in this position. Now I remember back on December first when they were moving moving to a terrible dolphins team and I thought this team has division title written all over it so I mean when you think back and we were talking off the air when you think back to that dolphins game on December first after Thanksgiving and how bad they looked and how infuriating that game was and you going to where we are now. It's really really amazing. It is they've they've come a long way even just during that stretch and by the way if you're on the twitter machine give Matt Liana follow at Matignon ten sixty and before we get into this game. Matt you got a podcast. Excellent podcast telling people about While one with Matt Leon it's Basically we do a long form interview a week and we've had all different kinds of people and one year audience might be interested in one of our last episodes assode of twenty nineteen. We had conner bar went in studio and we did about thirty five minutes with him talking about his career talking about coming to the Eagles College allege football career How he was born deaf then and how he dealt with it? I mean everybody knows. He's a genuinely genuinely outstanding human So it was really really fun to sit down with them and You could check that out one on one with Matt. Leon you can find it wherever you find and your podcast probably wherever you find this podcast and it was a couple of episodes ago so it was A. I'm a little by but it was very good good. Make sure you check that out everybody buddy. So let's talk about this football game a little bit here and now and so what we've seen from this football team over the last four weeks. How real is it? Because it's obviously we watched Carson Wentz and Doug Peterson do amazing things with very little ones like creating. It's creating a gourmet meal at a five star restaurant restaurant with groceries. You got it Aldi. That that's what we're talking about here and you know there's a lot of conversation and we can talk about it if you want to. You know. WHO's more responsible Carson Wentz? Doug Peterson I don't really care who's more responsible they're doing together. And that's I think that's I think that's amazing but you know when when you look at how this is all been put together what what has has this final month meant to you as far as your confidence level of this team even moving past two thousand nineteen because because what they've done I think to me the anyway has has solidified the Carson Doug Combo moving forward Oh I think there's no question I mean let's look at specifically let's talk about. Doug Peterson Peterson. This'll be three years in a row making the playoffs. This will be two years in a row. Making the play offs after the team was dead in the water in the middle of the season. If they win Sunday. That's three years in a row. Not just making the plaza where the postseason victory to NFC titles to East titles a Super Bowl appearance and obviously super bowl win all that in four years as a head coach and all that in four years after his hiring was basically openly mocked across the city because ause people thought that that he was only getting hired because he was Andy's boy so when you put it in that context it's pretty incredible with the eagles offense offense. You know we remember. They they really struggled in the last game against Against Seattle losing seventeen to nine in Philadelphia back at the end of November. The Eagles turn the ball over a bunch in that game really Carson. Wentz had his worst game of the season against Seattle and Seattle still just barely managed to make it out Philadelphia with with victory in that when although they did leave if some points on the field as well they probably should've had more than seventeen points in that ballgame but nevertheless Seattle is not exactly a juggernaut either at one point in their Sunday night game against the forty niners and they were down on thirteen. Nothing they had a negative point differential on the season they only have a plus seven point differential on the season yet. They have an eleven five record. The Eagles are in the in the thirties. I believe with a nine nine and seven records so I mean point. Differential doesn't mean everything but it's a really good indicator of your talent level and Seattle. Seattle has its problems. Coming in they have they are. They are not more injured than the eagles are but they are close to it now. The Eagles are getting some good news. Here Matt it looks like it. Looks like you're going to get lane Johnson back out on the field I believe Zakar. It's was out on the field for practice on Thursday in some limited capacity which just shocks the hell out of me you gotTA. You've a lacerated kidney I'd be amazed as if he plays on Sunday but he desperately wants to get out there and and miles sanders was not out there on Thursday but they talked to him and It seems as though the rookie is going to be ready to go on Sunday. Which of those three guys do you think is most important to get back Lane Zach or miles at a very good question? I would say probably lane gene. That's my answer. Yeah just because of what he means that offensive line and you know when you do when you break down the splits of how they perform when he's not got in there and how they perform any is in there Honestly and this is going to be amazing I would probably go lane one mile sanders and all pro arguably one of the top four tight end in the NFL that Kirch third let backup. Dallas Goddard has proven to be such an such an adept depth tight end himself. And let's talk about you know you talk about this last month and one of the amazing things watching this team name is. This is something I said the people even in Games they won earlier this year. Every game was like dental surgery. Every game game is like you throw something at the TV. At least twice a game and the big one of the big reasons for that was their inability to catch the ball and it sounds silly but you know and it wasn't just the drops and I can't. I think I put this on twitter one time. I can't tell you. How many times do the first twelve or thirteen eighteen weeks of the season you watch a play in real time and a defenders right there with an eagle receiver and the ball bounces away? And you Well defender got a hand on it and then they showed a replay in slow motion. And you're like now. He just dropped it or he didn't make the play he didn't go get it anyway. The reason I bring this up with got it got it was one of the guys that you kind of look like what is going on. This guy's regressed. He doesn't make tough catches. He drops the ball lot now. Fast forward to now now and that catchy made against the giants against the sideline and the the fifty fifty balls. He's getting and his ability. He I feel like in this last month and I don't know if it's just maybe for and I don't WanNa say the lights going on like he wasn't performing to a certain point before but he's kind of transformed here the last month into kind of difference maker at tight end that you thought that the eagles were getting when they traded for him. And that's Really big and I think with his emergence you Kinda feel like as great as Zakar is. If he can't go they're going going to be okay because of what Godard has or how Goddard has emerged here In the last month so long answer to a simple question Lane Wayne one mile sanders to Zakar three. That would be the order of importance. I would say as far as getting them back. Yeah no I think it's all and it all has to do with. Their backups. Are Because if you if lanes not in there it's most likely It's most likely big again. Because you don't have Brandon Brooks in there At Right Guard. Either that's a big loss for this football team but You know give give credit to Matt Pryor for stepping in last week in and doing a pretty good job for for Brandon Brooks but You know obviously you know when you're talking about this offense you talk talk about how they're utilizing the running backs right now. Because you know we Greg Ward has been good And obviously the other practice squad guys have come up and they've they've really stepped up at this is team has become a screen team you know. And that's one of the things. I always thought that they should have done more of earlier. In the season was used the screen game more that was a staple of the Andy. Reid offense that always seemed to work when you've got an athletic offensive line like the Eagles do and you've got pass. Catchers out of the Backfield Mile Sanders proved. He could catch the Paul from the start of the season. Boston Scott has proven to be pretty good as a guest receiver as well you have and then you have two tight ends in in in in Goddard. Who can who can run these screenplays smell too especially got her? They've had a couple of huge games with him in the screen game and well I think one of those got called back recently that would have that would have I think it was against Dallas. It would've been a big gain and they had to call it back because of a holding penalty or something but the screen game has become a major. That's how they're getting chunk place. I mean they are getting a couple of balls here in their down on the field and Carson Wentz doing an amazing job trusting. Some of these guys the Burnett down deep down the field for some of these plays but the screen game has really been a big part of this yes and if miles sanders isn't too negatively affected. Running the football with his low ankle sprain and he still has that burst running the football it gives them so much versatility because because you can have any of those guys on the field anytime in the defense has no idea whether a running play is coming or a passing play is coming in. I think I think that's a big key to this game on Sunday. Is they even though. The personnel is is lesser. You don't have specific personnel for specific types of plays whereas with Seattle. You know that that if marshawn Lynch is on the field they're running the football you know there's certain there's certain personnel groupings that if you know they're on the field something is going to happen. Oh yeah absolutely. And I I'm just constantly amazed watching what how versatile the eagles offense has become. And it's really amazing. How they gotten better as they had the plug in younger unproven unproven guys? Because I think if I would've told you heck on Halloween that the eagles were going to go into a must-win game in December over and three of your four top weapons. WE'RE GOING TO BE BOSTON. Scott Greg Ward Josh Perkins you would think that you know the everything had fallen apart but it's really one of the things that's amazing is they. I mean my hi Opinion Greg words a slot guy next year. I don't even I think he's proven he's exactly what you wanted and underneath receiver. And he's going to cost you. Nothing Boston Scott is the new. Darren sproles I'm not saying he's as good as but you know what I'm saying that role that I don't see you look no further so all of a sudden he is meant to me. He's Corey Clement. He's Corey Clement. was in two thousand seventeen. I think I think that's A. That's a really good comparison between those two guys. He's giving eating the eagles right now. What Cory Clemente gave them in? Two thousand seventeen. Yeah and when you think I'm very torn with these guys emergence urgence because on one hand you give them a lot of credit for coaching these guys up and and getting them ready to play but then on the other hand. There's a party that's like why in the world to keep bringing Jordan Mathews back if Greg Ward had this in him and they they seen him for months. And why would you. You know. Waste carries on J. J. He if you've got Boston Scott but those are questions for a different day but when you look at you know what these guys are brought to the table. I think as much fun as it's been for this year I think these guys have also helped them fill some holes going going forward. That's GonNa make life a lot easier with the salary cap and and stuff like that but No they've they've become a very versatile offense or an offense that plays to their strength and their offense that looks completely different than it did a month and a half ago because if you remember how hard they had to work to move the ball You know most of that New England game though those Seattle game like you always waited for the other shoe to drop even when there was a good play that something bad was right around around the corner. Somebody who's GonNa drop a ball or you know I it's just I. It is absolutely amazing. The transition that this team has gone through specifically on the offensive subsided. The ball where you just I. It's just it's incredible now to where every time there was a tough place to be made. You expected the ball to be incomplete or something bad happened now. You're genuinely surprised when somebody doesn't come up with it because guys are making plays all over the place. Well let's step away and take a quick break when we come back. Let's flip sides and we'll talk about how the eagles defense is going to try to stop. Russell Wilson Aches. We'll do that up next to your on. BG Radio I'm Jillian. Weinberger hosted the impact podcast from. Vox about how powerful people affect the rest of us this season. We're looking at the big ideas from all the people people running for President in two thousand twenty hit this opioid crisis head on public option. move away from fossil fuel energy efficiency. And it's going to be a Great Wall and it's GonNa work. A lot of those ideas have actually been tried before like that. Wall trump wants to build the Gallus. Zona has had one on its border for decades. 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The Eagles have never beaten this guy. They have never never beaten the skype. And it's been an even longer time since they beat them in Philadelphia since nineteen ninety two. So I mean that's the George H W Bush administration the last time the the the eagles have beaten the seahawks in Philadelphia. These two teams have never played in the playoffs before so So that's pretty cool. This'll be the last. NFC team the eagles. I have never played in the in the playoffs and so kind of amazing that as many times as these two teams have matched up over the years that none of them has been in the postseason. So as you're looking at the as you're looking at the seahawks you're looking at the fact that they are without their top three running backs they had to sign marshawn lynch off the street and yet I think they're going to continue to WANNA still run the football instead of using Russell Wilson this incredible tool that they have at their disposal. And they've got Tyler Lockett and C and D K metcalf to outstanding young wide receivers. I have to throw the ball. We know what the Eagles weaknesses. And that's in the pets in the stopping the passing game. How do you think the seahawks are gonNA come out? How nervous does Russell Wilson make you for Sunday afternoon? Oh I think Russell he's one of the greats and his ability to keep plays alive and he just always plays under control and he's a big equalizing factor. But that being said I think the they're so banged up on off. I when when I looked when you saw the playoff thing coming together and it started to look like the eagles had a legitimate chance of being a playoff team. And you Kinda look who also is going to be in the pool so you kind of look at Seattle and go boy if they could somehow manage to get Seattle at home you know in the first game nice match that. That's that's you. You gotta like their chances or you know that is a game where it would not take a Herculean effort to to to win as opposed. I think it would against some of the other teams I think they'll do what they do. I think they will run the ball. The running game doesn't scare me. I think marshawn Lynch Nice store. It's a neat story. And he's naming all but when you I haven't played all year and what he will bring to. The table is limited secondary. It's always going to be an adventure But you're you're in kind of heartened by the fact that they defensively so much better at home than it does on the road. What does it a twelve point difference and then they give up the dog and Tina game seventeen they give up fewer points than any other? NFL team at home. And you know the way. They played against the giants last week on the road that was that was was the performance. We've gotten used to seeing the link so given the state of the Seattle offense and you know. Give us a Wilson his credit but I. I think it's reasonable to think they can hold on the seventeen twenty points Because there's no reason to think given recent history and I know they turned it over. I think five times in that loss earlier but nothing lead you to believe they will hand the ball over like they did in that game and if they force Seattle to go length of the field I think like I said I think they can hold on the seventeen twenty and as crazy as it is. This group led by Greg Ward and Boston Scott. I'm pretty confident they can get into the low twenties so You know I liked their chances. I you know the defense played pretty well in in that first game against Seattle. It wasn't great. I thought it was one of those defensive performances. Where yes they didn't give up a ton of points and yes they didn't give up a a ton of yards but they didn't make plays that would have changed the game But that's something they have been doing here as of late I just I just. He's gotTa feel I gotTa feel like you know it. It's a match up that that suits them best and I weigh. Seattle is is Offensively right now I. I like the Eagles Chances. Well in the last match up. They held Russell Wilson to thirteen of twenty five. For two hundred yards one touchdown one interception just barely barely. It was just barely over fifty percent completion rate Tyler Lockett had one catch for thirty eight yards Decay metcalf three thirty five Maliki Turner one for thirty three. They shut down the passing game to Rashad Penny was the guy that killed them in that game. Fourteen carries for one hundred twenty nine yards and nine point two average and a touchdown. He's not there he's not GonNa play and he might. He might have a hard time playing next year. I was reading that his His acl injury is a really really complicated and nasty one but they also have Chris Carson. I mean so. He's not going to be there either. And we saw last week against the forty niners. They still wanted to run marshawn lynch they still wanted to. They wanted to feed him the rock on the the third and short and the fourth in short he. He's these night doesn't have the burst he wants did. He's not beast mode. And so I think the fact that I don't know if you remember the playoff game last last year. Do you remember the playoff game. The seahawks played against the cowboys last year. Where the passing game? There's the only way there are moving the ball and yet they insisted on continuing to try and run I. I think a big matchup advantage that the eagles have this weekend is Doug Peterson. Going up against P. Carol because if you're talking about XS and Os Doug Peterson is in zone right now with with his play calling and Jim Schwartz has has figured out something has figured out a way over these last few weeks to tighten things up. I mean he's he he's he I think he's playing a little a bit more press coverage but he's it just seems like everyone's more disciplined tackling been better over these last few weeks and that's GonNa be key and Matt. I think the big key to the defense being able to shutdown. Russell Wilson is sacking the quarterback like they did the last time they played these guys on. The Defensive Line looked outstanding on Sunday afternoon particularly particularly Tim Jernigan. Who if he can be a running buddy for Fletcher Cox? It makes. It's GonNa make all the difference in the world on with that defensive. Line that to me is the big key. Can the Eagles D. Line do what it did against Dallas do what it did against New York against Seattle on Sunday afternoon and they should be able to because again Seattle. Oh has issues on the offensive line with regards injury. So absolutely and you mentioned jared and I thought that was one of the best games. He's played in a while he was Against the the giants and you know Brandon Graham made a ton of I mean he always makes it Kinda plays but They're in a good spot right now. It's confidence and what you mentioned the tackling. That's another thing that you know. They're getting guys to the ground. You know even when guys make plays you tip your hat. The other team practices to but twenty are plays or staying twenty yard. Plays or not turning into forty are plays which we saw a lot of earlier in the season. You're GONNA the need the secondary to step up and one of the big thing and I don't WanNa put too much on a handful of plays but in my opinion the problem or I shouldn't say my opinion. It would seem seen that the situation Sidney Jones is more a situation from the neck up than it is skill set because this is a kid that can play. He's all the way back from the injury or he could play in college. Everyone agreed he was the first round talent but it seems like he can get out of his own head and there's amazing as it was a couple of times he was putting the game and you know cold and made played. You GotTA imagine that twitched. His confidence level high. He made a couple more plays against the giants and a bigger role. And if all of a sudden you can start to get to Sidney Jones that they drafted and and he starts making plays like that. All of a sudden things look a lot different. I thought we're still douglas as as maddening is. It is that he doesn't turn around. Look for the but the the coverage was good. You know Even on the touchdown tate. It'd be turned around. He's probably able to knock it down. Yeah you mentioned Jim Swartz. They seem like they're different now. They get home now. That was another thing in the middle of the season when they had these games that were difficult to watch they just never seem to get home like watch other teams blitz and other quarterb and and went to throw it away or netplay was blown up eagles with blitz. And it didn't seem to make a difference sprint and that has changed I it goes along. You know it ever. Since that time against the giants they lose the game to the dolphins they come yeah. They look terrible in the first half against the giants. And you're like I can't believe this is happening. I can't believe that this is going to go out like this completely different team since that halftime. It's absolutely incredible. And it's both sides talked at length about the the offensive changes the thing with the defendthem the thing that was more maddening about the defense. You could sit here. And as bad as the offense played in October and November. You could say well you know what though to be fair guys banged up. They've got you know the guys that are are healthy and then all of a sudden they go by and they come back. Can you guys miss a game like you know. Only offense aside. The thing that was maddening was defense was pretty helpful. Yeah yeah well for this point in the season you had most of the guys that you would want out there and they weren't getting it done and now all of a sudden it's a totally different story. You mentioned that the fee now the pass asked Russia looks ferocious and they're getting big negative trump plays and getting some guys playing with confidence in the secondary. And it's fun to watch and I don't see any reason why won't continue on Sunday. You know that you you're right. That's the all offensive. It's of line is an issue. It's beat up. They should be able to take advantage of it if they can keep. Russell Wilson Keep Campaign and You know keep an and put pressure on him. I like their chances. I mean that place is GonNa be zoo on Sundays and it's going to be you know the eagles also also the ability. You know what another thing. That's amazing when you look at the mosaic. The painting the the the the thirty thousand foot view of the Doug Peterson era. He's here's managed to get this team to the Super Bowl. Excuse me to the playoffs three times and the Super Bowl and every time they go into the postseason it feels. They're playing with house money. which is incredible? When you think about it yeah there underdog again they are underdogs coming into this game? It's unbelievable I think. This is the sixth playoff playoff game. And Doug Peterson career that the Philadelphia Eagles enter as underdogs therefore in one of those games by the way yeah and the one that they lost they had a fourteen up and lead. You'd like they're right there and all of them. But I mean just as an aside and kind of going like when you think about that Super Bowl here. In the fact that this franchise with the baggage this franchise has had to be able to make that super bowl run and every step be able to play the underdog card and and be able to play free and easy and not have and not collapsed under eighty years of of struggles and not winning a super bowl and stuff like that. It's it's really incredible and then last year they're able to go into the play offs. And Hey basically happy to be here and it's even more so this year that you know this is a team. People people were people were calling for Doug to get fired yeah Thanksgiving yeah December and now people are upset that he's not happy. He's only in the top three coach of the year on some people's lists It it's truly remarkable. It's a credit to the job. He he does that he constantly gets. What's his record in December of the regular? I think it's got like fourteen into twelve and one I I mean I think over the last three seasons. He's twelve and one in December as whatever what is and I apologize for not being better prepared. But what was the I heard a number Indus. He's coached something like ten or eleven games where it's win or go home and his record record or something like ten in one like yet asked incredible the only winner go home game. That you know is in New Orleans last year New Orleans you know you think all these Games James Obviously play offs. Are you know one game season but all these games in the regular season the last couple of years where they lose the season's over and they constantly did we answer the bell. It's a testament to how he keeps the locker room together and guys play for him and it's really he really something now that you Kinda put these seasons together as frustrating as the middle of the last two years have been when at times. It's really felt like the bottoms dropped. Dropped out of the whole thing You almost give them more credit because it easily could have gone really bad. Oh yeah you know. He studies the ship. The guys is believing him. They respond to him and now they're playing a playoff game at home on Sunday and there's a good chance they can win it. I will let me we get your prediction here as we get ready for Sunday afternoon. Eagles hosting the SEAHAWKS What's your prediction? How do you see this one shaken out man? I think it's tight I think take either team is ever more than possession from each other But I think the Eagles Win Twenty four twenty one. I liked that score. I'm I'm feeling it. I'm feeling a similar vibe. I'M GONNA give my prediction in just a minute. But before I let you go breaking news as we are recording this podcast here on Thursday night. The cowboys have officially officially let Jason Garrett go he will not be part of the organization. Moving forward has according to ESPN's Edward or so Jerry Jones and executive the Vice President Steven Jones have decided that Jason Garrett will no longer be a part of the organization. Our old friend Jason Carrot. We won't have to kick around Anymore Matt but What are your thoughts on Jason Garrett? Moving on and the cowboys are now looking for another coach I'm kind of I mean. You probably could've made this argument. That should have been done four or five six years ago when early on when you started your discussion you talked about point differential and how Seattle was actually negative at one point in the San Francisco Game One of the most amazing stats this year. Dallas finished eight and eight point. Differential was a plus one thirteen. Yeah I it was. Yeah it was something like the only team over a hundred point differential to not have a winning record in. NFL history is like one hundred and sixty four teams in NFL. History had a point differential over one hundred. All of them had winning records. Except the cowboys. No hard is that to do and like I look at the standings on Monday because I was so so fascinated by this. They were like plus one hundred thirteen to give people some real context the saints were like a hundred plus one hundred. and Seventeen like Varanasi point differential orential is in the same ballpark is at and they're thirteen. And three and you have to work really hard outscored your opponents overall by one hundred points and finish five hundred like that is really amazing. And you know that's Probab- that's I would think that's Kinda the Jason Garrett in a nutshell when everything's going great and they're playing teams that they're just physically better than that's fine but anytime there's any kind of a tough game you know the the they didn't have the stomach for so now you look around and the and one of the interesting things now with this news and Doug. Peterson has got to be facing all new coaches. EMC each next year. That's crazy. It really really is crazy. And you know when you think about how far Doug has come and how far the rest of the division has fallen. Allan thank goodness we we play in the NFC. Although I do look forward to a time when the rest of the NFC East is good again. You know it was really fun to play the redskins and the giants and the cowboys. Oh boys when everybody was good back in the late eighties early nineties. But let's take advantage of this as eagles fan while we can because it won't always be this way folks make sure you check out Matt Leon's work at Kyw. Follow him on twitter at Matt Leon. Ten Sixteen again checkout his podcast The navy began one on one. Is that right matt. Yeah and you can follow it. Follow the podcast. podcast on twitter at one on one pod and you'll be able to access The the list our whole library where we have thirty seven episodes up in addition to the counter bar win one That Eagles fans will like We've had all kinds of people. Through from Professional Bowler to raid injure injure the former Phillies pitcher. Dickie Noles to Lasalle men's basketball coach. Ashley Howard we run the gamut once you sounds like your podcast make sure you check it out. Everybody and make sure you're listening coming to Matt on. KYW Ten sixty every day matt thanks for coming on. BG and Radio Man. I appreciate it bye pleasure anytime my friend arts here. My thoughts on Sunday afternoons game and it is cooled. The Eagles are only one of four teams that have made the playoffs. Each of the last three seasons Ou- joining the chiefs Patriots and saints such as showed you the consistency and the message that Doug the Peterson has had for his team over. The last few years just continues to work. It's amazing what he's doing. The Eagles have not won a wildcard round game at home since the two thousand in six season the Jeff Garcia year when they beat the giants at the link on a last second field goal. Since then they've lost to the packers and the saints at home in this round but they haven't played a lot of home games in the wildcard round. They've been on the road or they've played home games in the divisional round like in two thousand seventeen they own the second best. Winning percentage at home overall overall since the two thousand sixteen season at twenty five and nine the eagles are a dominant home team. That's a seven thirty five. Winning percentage including the playoffs Carson wentz is a maniac at home he owns the third highest home winning percentage by an NFL quarterback since two thousand seventeen at fourteen and six only. Tom Brady and drew. Drew brees have been better with a minimum of Twenty Home Games and in those twenty games whence has thrown forty touchdowns eight interceptions and has a one zero two point two passer passer rating on the defensive side. The defense has given up just sixteen point one points per game at home this year the best of any team in the NFL they've also allowed the fifth fewest points per game in the NFL from weeks. Eight through seventeen eighteen point seven per game and have allowed seventeen or fewer points in seven of their last nine games they also ranked first in. NFL defensive three and out percentage overall this season. which is? I had no idea about that because it seems like every time the Eagles score the Eagles situationally situationally allow teams to go right back down the field but Obviously getting some of those three announced after a score is what they've been doing over the last couple of weeks that Saquon Barkley run. Notwithstanding the eagles offense is third in red zone touchdown efficiency fourth in third down conversion rates of two areas where they have to be successful on Sunday is continuing to convert red zone red zone opportunities into touchdowns and to continue to convert third down conversions. That's critical for this team. Because they're not gonna hit the big play but over. It's worked over the last four weeks. They've had at least four hundred yards of offense in every game the last four weeks in a row for just the second in time in team history four Seattle. They were very good on the road this year at seven in one and Russell Wilson ranked third in the NFL. In passing touchdowns six and touchdown down percentage and was PFM highest rated passer this season. He threw five interceptions overall. That's why he's a scary dude. He did fumble eight times not Carson Carson levels of fumbles but also not very good but he got lucky. You only lost two fumbles this season. I think this game is going to be one along. The Eagles Defensive Line Seattle's pass protection ranked just twenty four th according to football outsiders. ESPN's pass block win rate model. Had them at twenty eight in the NFL. Only only two quarterbacks were hit more than Wilson this year and back a couple of weeks ago and the Eagles in Seahawks last played each other they had the eagles had five sacks and eleven eleven. QB Hits Against Russell Wilson in week. Eleven Malcolm Jenkins was a terror for Russell. Wilson hit him four times basically acting as kind of a pseudo spy I against him. So we'll see if If Jim Schwartz goes that route again the eagles in that game in week eleven also turn the ball over five times themselves with two interceptions options by Winston what was easily his worst game of the year. I really don't think the eagles are GONNA turn the ball over five times again when Peterson. They've just found this symbiotic biotic rhythm that they had been looking for since the two thousand seventeen season when playing within the within the offensive. They figured out how to use the running backs and tight ends defectively and how they've getting just enough out of their practice squad ride receivers to make this work. We'll see what their health looks like over the next couple of days. Doug Peterson on Friday. Said Lane Johnson is is really pushing to play. I think there's a good chance he plays. They're Zakar has still not been cleared for contact but he is going to try and give it a shot. I'm less confident about being able to play in this game. I'm miles sanders. Appears like he's going to be ready to go on Sunday afternoon again. which would be absolutely huge so of all the opponents? The Eagles could have welcomed into Philadelphia. This Sunday they afternoon Seattle. I think was the best opponent. They are beaten up one dimensional squad. They're not GONNA be able to run the ball a whole lot with marshawn lynch with with marshawn Lynch back back there. I know I know Travis homer ran ten times for sixty two yards and six point two average and you know he's looks like shifty little back but the eagles handle the running game and I think they'll handle the Seattle running game with Rashad Penny not in there and here's the stat. LG put out. That I think is a really important stat since two two thousand Sixteen Pete Carroll has faced an opponent twice in the same season fourteen times in the second end the back end of those games. He's four for and ten against teams when they've had a second shot against him including Oh into in the playoffs. I think Doug Peterson is going to out coach. Pete Carroll Darrelle in this game I think the eagles are going to get revenge for that seventeen to nine loss. I think it's incredibly difficult for a west coast team to fly to the East Coast and beat a team twice voice in the same season doing that especially when they are as beat up in one dimensional as Seattle is. I think this will be a close game. 'cause obviously the eagles have issues of their own but they are riding a wave that that I don't see ending on Sunday afternoon so I've got the Eagles beating Seattle Twenty seven to twenty three and folks that'll do it for this special episode of Bgn Radio My thanks to Matt Leon John for coming on the podcast and just a reminder for you guys to please leave ratings and reviews as told you your ratings and reviews are directly proportional to whether or not the Eagles win football all games so you need to give us those five star ratings. You need to leave a review for all of our podcast lever review for me for for Jimmy. Kamsky Kissing solex Babes on Broadway. 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Sheil Kapadia & Kevin Seifert

"Most job boards overwhelming you with tons of the wrong resumes. Not smart but ZipRecruiter finds the right people for you. And actively invites them to apply. That's smart. Try it for free at ZipRecruiter dot com slash Barnwell. Ziprecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Welcome to Bill Barnwell show. I'm Bill Barnwell ESPN. We are here on Monday number twenty six two thousand any teen week twelve is almost in the books. We have a variety of divisional races that are being decided here in real time a very competitive division. Of course, we're going to start with today's the NFC east where we have to six and five teams and after a late comeback yesterday five and sixteen looming in third place. It just happens to be the defending Super Bowl champion. So joining me to talk about the eagles yesterday's eagles giant's game and the sort of their chances within the NFC east and the wildcard pitcher in the NFC as a whole is our good friend shelter patio from the athletic shale. How are you? Doing good. We're we're nearing playoff scenario time. Which is when the football nerds, probably like you may and some of your listeners like we live for this. You know, get the get the spreadsheets out. Type breaks all that. So a very exciting time for sure I'm I've been in that that road for a couple of weeks. I'm not gonna lie. So I'm happy to further get into if the we're gonna talk about their chances of making the playoffs eagles later on in the show. Let's talk about yesterday's eagles giant's game a game where the giants led nineteen th three with four minutes to go in the second second quarter, excuse me. And they lost the game for just in the broader conversation about this game from what you saw do you put that eagles? Come back more on the eagles raising their game and playing well, or do you think the giants kind of blew a a really advantageous opportunity for themselves. You know, I would probably put it on more on the giants to be on. You know? I think if you're playing that game. I don't know ten times I feel like the giants would probably when they have that lead. Hold onto it more. So than not, but at the same time, I was rewatching it this morning. And I think the eagles, you know, they found this formula, which is I don't know if it's a stain -able or not. But I it's really the only way they can play right now. And that's to kind of sustained drives and keep their defense off the field as much as possible until the giants in that second half on the ad by four real drives until that last one with about twenty five seconds left or so so they had four drives. And you know, I felt Michael Bennett re watching it. I I didn't realize the full effect impact. He had watching live, but he kind of won the game. Or or wreck that game for the giants. I think on those first three drives at the second half. He had one sack. He had another big tackle for loss. And then he had on. The third possession. It was his pressure that created a third sack. So that force the giants is two kinds of some tough situations. Some long third downs and the eagles were able to string together that one drive at the end. Yeah, I mean, three drives for the giants there in the second half where they blew that lead. One first down across those three drives a total of I believe negative seven yards in terms of net yardage for those three drives obviously not ideal. From the giants perspective. I mean, petro formative the former eagles offensive coordinator under chip Kelly. He's coming for some criticism for his play pong in the second half or not getting saquon Barkley the ball more frequently do you think that's a fair criticism? Or do you think that's just the reality of they weren't moving the ball? Either way. Yeah. You know, I'm not the biggest Pasha fan thing that but I did see all the criticism. He was getting you know, you can always say like anytime the giants lose you could probably make the case they should have gone to saquon Barkley and Odell Beckham more. I'm Erin, you know, that would it be really a crazy thing to say because you talking about to probably the ten s playmakers in the NFL. But you know, I do think in this situation. It's probably a little overblown. I will say I mean, if you look at the first Dr they had their, you know, their blocking Michael Bennett with a tight end there, and he gets the sack and they're at like third and eighteen so you know, that Dr is there backed up in their own territory. You know, I think he attacking try. They had again eagles gotta take tackles for loss on that one. And they got backed up and they take a shot deep to Peckham on the third drive in really the eagles. Just decided, you know, we're gonna play some very basic coverage is a lot of. Basic over three they were so banged up in the secondary. Like don't let anything get over the top. And the giants were not able to sustain drives at that point. So could they have gone to park the more shore they could have. But you know, they didn't really have a lot of plays and penalties mixed in there. And so I think they ran what like twenty some plays in the entire second half. So I think when you look at the overall numbers of touches for for someone like saquon Barkley in the second half, it is probably a little bit distorted. Yeah. And I think realistically you see that nineteen point total through the first basically most of the second quarter. And you think ok well, they should've kept moving the ball, and they had those three drafts with the didn't move the ball at the end of the first half. Allegis threw a terrible absolutely atrocious. Inexplicable at least to me interception to end that driving cost the giants three points and then in the fourth quarter. I mean, they once the eagles did come close in the giants dirty will lead excuse me. Giants did drive down the field. And there was a. Very questionable at least to me. Perhaps I'm biased but a very questionable. None. Call on a pass interference. Call Odell Beckham on a third and fourth and Senate for the game tying field goal mean. It wasn't like the offense totally shutdown. Just like you said they had three drives where they did nothing. And so if they one of the drives saquon Barkley sitting which they do every game, I think is smart to keepsake on Berkeley's touch total down a little bit. So I can't I have my interest. Pat Shurmur myself. I don't think that he is a great offense coordinator or head coach by any means. But can't really fault him for the decision making in this game. Now on the flip side look at the eagle's perspective in this game did have a incision that went really well for them. Of course, of course, in that final driver fourth and one from the giants forty two I think most most coaches are going to go forward and that situation than they tie game with two thirty nine left. But there are coaches who would certainly punt in that scenario and Doug Peterson did chose to go for it. Not a surprise that. He went with the play. They went for it, which was mashing play. They run they run in the Super Bowl Most notably for seven. Big plays in less assistant. But think about Doug Peterson decision making and his aggressiveness over the course of the season with over the last couple of weeks. He's actually coming for some criticism for his conservativeness. Do you think that's fair? And do you think that was? Wiped away by what he did in this game. Or are there more concerns about this isn't he's been making with that offense? So far in the last few weeks leading that charge to be quite honest about criticizing him for his lack of aggressiveness. It really to me has been. It's your needle Finn it out to be one of the bigger disappointing aspects of the entire season to be quite honest. You know, when you look at how aggressive he was last year how well it worked out. I mean, he wrote a book in the offseason cult. Fearless. And you know, I didn't read the book. I listen to it on audible to be fair. But I mean, there are passages in there where he just talking about, you know, Frank Reich, and John D Filipo the biggest thing they take away from me is aggressive nece. And he's talking about how he watched that. Jack patriots game. He vowed he would never do anything like that. And so, you know in the offseason, I'm taking all right? You know, they have coach who's listening to some of the analytic stuff who has this aggressive mindset who's trying to be on the cutting edge. And then. Just some of these decisions he's made have been baffling. I mean, you know, they go into that saints game a couple of weeks ago with the banged up secondary knowing you're going to have to score in the thirties to really have a chance, and you know, twice the punt from midfield and both times the saints. You know turned around and score a touchdown. And even in this game. There was a the first session of the game. I mean, they're in giant territory facing a fourth and five and just to me that's a situation where you know last year Doug Peterson is going for that. And specifically when you talk about how how decimated they are with their secondary. That's the time when you go for it and be aggressive and he keeps using this term flipped the field. Would you know, we didn't hear at all last year and even in against the giants they want their and then the giants job. I think eighty yards down the field and take field goal before they stall out in the red zone. So this was really an organizational decision like last year, you know, Jeffrey. The owner told us, you know, he was kind of guarding against Doug Peterson being criticized for being aggressive on fourth down know, he said we've done studies. We've got the analytics team on this organizationally. We want to be known as crescent franchise that's going to trickle down from the front office to what you see on Sunday. Then it was kinda like guys don't rip Peterson for the process if he goes forward on some of these four downs, and we don't get it. Now that was before the Super Bowl season. So you know, Peterson was open to a lot of questioning at that time then they win the Super Bowl. And to be quite honest. I'm not sure what's happened this year. But yeah, he has been more conservative, and it's been kind of troubling. And it seems like something they definitely need to revisit after the season going into twenty nineteen. I mean, they punted on four th and five from the giants. Forty seven lanky mentioned kicked a field goal down twelve nothing in the second quarter and fourth and three from the giants twenty four after Carson Wentz came up a yard short on third and to actually lusty art excuse. Me on third and two on that. I forget what it was like a read option play or what what was the. That's what I thought. I it's very strange. I mean, he's he was so good last year on fourth them needles were so good on fourth down last year. So do you think it's just a situation where you know, they're sort of regressing to the mean, and they're not as affected on fourth down on them. Because of that Doug Peterson is less than confidence in their ability to pick up four thousand just is there anything you can think of that would maybe make you think that they are are sort of sort of dictating y Doug Peterson might be more conservative this year. You know, I it feels to me like last year a lot with of sort of our eagles. Are this big sort of analytics forward thinking franchise. It was kind of like every time we add Peterson about it. You know, he would mention that. He was listening stuff like wind probabilities in that during the game. But you know, usually say, but you know, what I ended up deciding with my gut, and so he was listening to the information, then he would talk to players, and, you know, a lot of times they were like, you know, we don't care about the numbers. It's just nice that he. Has that faith in us and trust us, and it was sort of like culture where it's like. All right. You have a group of players who feel like the coach really police in them pensively, and is willing to take these risks and doesn't get upset when the results don't show up. And so I think what's happened this year is that just the offense has not been nearly as good it's been a mediocre to below average offense all year, and we're kind of seeing that. Yeah. It wasn't all just kind of the analytics and going with the forward thinking and being aggressive. It was you know, he trusted his offense last year, and he doesn't trust his offense this year. And I think that really is. You know, come is what it comes down to in many in many of these situations. Yeah. I mean, you read I'm sure you read I wrote as well the Peter King article where he embedded with Sean Payton and the saints a couple of weeks ago before that eagles game. And he said, quote, I believe was we want our defense to put the game on Carson wins which seems kinda surprising for a guy who was an MVP candidate last year. I know you're right about this for the Atlantic. How do you think he's played this year can use separate that from the context of the eagles? I live line and their injuries or just you know, he's playing well on the rest of the offense. It's been struggling. I no I wanted to get your I'll get to that in a second. But I gotta get your kicks. I read that. And it was great. It was awesome accent all that. And some of the insight, but that was like the weirdest use of sort of data and analytics wasn't it. It was a what was it grows between three hundred eight and three hundred sixty four arts this is their record or something like I dunno. I think they might want to review it the proper height of using the number. So I was definitely confused. But you're right. The big takeaway was that he did say wants to put the game in Carson Wentz his hands. It would make you wouldn't say that if he was talking about, you know, Tom Brady or Iran, whoever you want to mention, you know, I think it's been sort of a there several different aspects to why their offense has struggled. I think went is probably been between like ten fifteen best quarterback in the NFL. Millie? She's in there. I think probably the last week, and he probably hasn't been as good. He is coming back from a major injury the divine into the big issue is this offense where sort of all of the receiving like do the same thing. You know, it got a golden Taylor and Nelson Zakar Dallas Goddard, and it's like you look at any one of those players on their own and sort of the intermediate part of the field inside, but numbers those guys are all really really good players. And then you put them all together, and you sort of look at some of the other offenses in the league like the chiefs or the Rams or the saints. And it's like the eagles. Just don't have a lot of speed now. Mike Wallace got injured the traded away Torrey Smith, but they just have laxatives vertical threat all season long. And I think it's probably been the biggest difference in the offense from last year to this year. They have I think three touchdowns all season passing touchdowns. It's come from. Outside the red zone, which is kind of incredible. When you think about it? I think there's only like two or three titans in the Bill are the only teams with fewer of those. So everything they do offensively. It's like they really have to work for it. They've gotta be officiant. They can't have a penalty. They can't have a, you know, a kind of a tackle for loss a sack those things have just sort of. Yes. Made the offensive Sierran. You know Wentz overall? He hasn't obviously made the same types of plays outside of the structure of the offense. The improv plays the scrambling for first downs. And you know, that's pretty understandable. He's coming back from the me injury. So I still believe in him long-term for sure I think he's got the upside to be one of the best second best their best quarterback, whatever in the entire league. But he hasn't been able to sort of mass all their deficiencies authencity. And kinda just put the offense on his back and say, you know, what I'm going to just try to be able to carry us right now that that hasn't happened this year. 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I mean, we're the eagles expecting more from Tate when they did make this trade, or do you think he do you think they would make this treat again, if they knew what they were getting from tape over the three games they've had him. So far this year. I would have to think they wouldn't make the trade head to do again. Just because of the numbers that you've mentioned they've just had a really really hard time integrating came into the offense. And you know, when they made the trade, I thought you know, what go ahead take a shot. You can kind of work that you have the quarterback and the division is really bad. Maybe you can catch lightning in a bottle at another playmaker. And see what happens. So it seemed like a calculated risk, especially when you consider. All right. If you walk in free agency, you're going to get a compensatory pick the following year. I know it's not the same thing. And it carries some risk. But it does alleviate some of that. But yeah, it just see, you know, kind of goes with the overall theme of them not having a plan for some of this stuff. And you know, he comes in. And they say it's been challenging to get him involved. And you have Nelson Aguilar who works in the slot. And you know, right when they made that trade, I think I asked how he Roseman, you know, during his press conference right after the trade are their skill sets of aga- Lauren golden Tate sort of redundant. And are you going to be able to play with both those guys? And it seemed like they had an idea of how they were going to do that. But then you watch it sort of executed, and it's just been a disaster. I mean, there's no other way to put it if you watch all of those golden targets it's like they're just forcing him the ball in some very weird spots and screams to him on like third and ten that are picking up five yards. I think he's averaging eight point eight yards per reception. Which is you know, that's like a run a good running back is able to do that. And meanwhile, Nelson Alar really isn't giving you much either. So it's like they've just had trouble figuring out their personnel. How to use their different guys? And like I said, I think at the core of it is a lot of these guys seem to have the same skill set. And I thought maybe they'd find creative ways to make it all work, but that has been a real struggle for them. Yes, man, still some time to come. But of course, we're getting pretty late in the season here in of course, enormous three-game stretch for the eagles coming up over the next three. Weeks. They host Washington at the Cowboys. And then they're at the Rams afterwards. Now, I mean, I don't think we need to have the conversation about this secondary versus the ramp. That's a mess food business. No point in even getting into that beyond that. But do you think the eagles as presently constructed giving what they do? Well, given what they struggle with. Do. You think they match up well against Washington and against the Cowboys in those two key divisional games. We'll see. I mean, they are. It's like I usually don't like when people use injuries as an excuse. 'cause you know, everybody's a little bit injured. I like to get your adjusted games loss Phil and be able to put it into context there. And until I can do that. I don't like saying that team is especially injured, but I've never seen anything like this where you know, they've had their top five Cornerbacks. You know, we're not available in that game against the giants. And then their six cornerback was an undrafted free agent left the game in the third quarter. So against Washington. I mean, Washington's just you know, they they seem like a bit of a mess offensively, obviously. And they're so banged up offense. And it's not like they have this great receiving core. So I think they've got a chance to hang in that game. I think the formula got to continue to be they're not gonna blitz much the front four guys like Fletcher Cox, and Michael Bennett and Chris long, and they got Tim Jernigan back Brandon Graham, those guys kind of have to just control. Role in dominate the game. And then it's like, I mean, I would imagine they're just going to be playing a lot of soft cover three where they're just like. All right. Don't let these guys get over the top if they string together six seven eight play drive. That's fine. We might give up some third and longs that are gonna frustrate fit in base. But you know, that's the way we have to play right now. So I think that's the formula. They'll take into that game against Washington. And then, you know, the Cowboys are sort of tough to figure out 'cause we have this small sample size with Amari Cooper, where he looked so good on thanksgiving. And and you know, they've got obviously much more prolific run game. So I definitely think they'll have a tougher time against the Cowboys a couple of weeks from now. But you know, I think it's gonna come down to the offense can be able to score enough points. And the defense isn't gonna shut down anybody. If the teams under like, you know, thirty twenty seven thirty you know, that might be a win for them. There's just no scheme right now that can. Really really help them out. Imagine telling an eagles fan after the thousand seventeen Super Bowl. Yeah. So Torrey Smith is going to be the biggest missing link to that eagle eagles team twenty eighteen and if they can hold teams under twenty seven points, they're going to be just fine. It's gone. It hasn't gone according to plan. That's for sure that's fair to say so FBI currently because PM full power index projects the eagles to finish with seven point three wins. A sixteen point two percent. Chance of making the playoffs. Any fifteen point one percent chance of winning the NFC east. Would you go over for under those figures for the rest of the season? I think I would I would probably go maybe a little bit over in the NFC east. I mean, I think the Cowboys are still the favorite and the Vegas numbers are crazy. I don't know if you've looked at those the Cowboys are like heavy favorites to win the NFC east. And then it is. And then it's the eagles after that. I mean, they're going to be favored, obviously, I think they're seven point favorites against Washington. I don't know if they're going to win that game or not at Dallas. I would think they would be you know, I think it would probably be within three points. Maybe this spread. So I like, I think they'll have a chance at that. And then they finished the season with Washington. So they kinda got lucky when they're facing Washington, you know, twice in the last five games when they're really injured. I mean, you know, I'll be is. I don't think the eagles really figured anything out against the giants. I think they came when like the same way as many of their losses went, and it just comes down to a possession or to at the end ofensive defensively, and they. Were able to sort of pull it out this time. But I think they are still a flawed team with a, you know, a defense that's just sort of decimated and an offense that can't seem to figure anything out this late in the season. And like I mentioned some of the Peterson in game stuff has has really surprised me and is a little bit discouraging. So I know I said over. Maybe a little bit more than fifteen percent. But I think the most likely scenario is probably, you know, maybe they beat Washington get everyone's hopes up and then go to Dallas the next weekend and lose, and then everyone kinda let's loose and unleashes and the Super Bowl glows totally off at that point. Do you think they make any serious changes if they do finish like seven and nine and don't make the playoffs? I mean, obviously, they're not gonna fire Doug Peterson. But like, you know, I was just thinking about cliff Kingsbury, for example. You know, do you think they would do something like go out and get in the offensive coordinator? I if they do struggle at seven and nine or to kind of just gonna run it back and hope that they're healthier and twenty nine thousand nine I think they I think Peterson one hundred percent need some new voices on offense. You know, it was tough when they lost Frank Reich and John de Filippo two very good offensive coaches, and it was tough to sort of quantify. How much they were gonna miss those guys. And I think it's pretty clear that they have. And you know, they elevated Mike grow from wide receivers coach to offensive coordinator. You know Peterson calls the place. So it's always topped like how much do you criticize the offensive coordinator in a situation like this? But you know, they've been terrible in the first quarter. Not miss score fewer points in the first quarter. They've regressed in the red zone. The mother thinks and sort of developing the younger players. So I don't know that they would think about making a coordinator change. I think it's possible that you know, they would say all right. We're going to bring in a new offensive coordinator. I think it's also possible they just add someone with one of those fancy titles. You know, senior ofensive analysts or, you know, whatever the case may be, but just sort of a, hey, here's an offensive voice who can bring something to the table who can fill in some of the gaps that were missing a year ago, and we can make this offense tougher to defend because it just has not been tough up to defend this year as it was the previous year. So other than that. I don't think you're going to see any major changes. You know, obviously, you know, you mentioned that Peterson's not going anywhere. Jim schwartz. And going anywhere and personnel wise. They're going to have some interesting decisions to make with some of these aging veterans, and then they do have three picks in the first two rounds. And they've really got to get good players through the draft. Especially when you're looking at having to pay Carson went big money either this off season or the following off season. Absolutely. So final question for you. She'll will be room service deliveryman become a regular character on your podcast. Birch with France. You know, what I guess it depends? How many we helped we record in the hotel? But yeah, I think if we do record more from the hotel LA that poor guy was so confused about what was what was going on as my partner Bobo with narrating me picking up the food from the door there in New Orleans. So we'll have to say we'll have to say if it's a big hit. Maybe we can we can make it a recurring character. I think if you can manage to expense room service on the road and turn it into a character. I think it's a smart identity effort. That's brilliant to me. That's true. That's next level thinking, I think I've I don't have the Super Bowl hangover like the eagles. I vote my game here till? And this well, Mr. capacity, it's always a pleasure. Where can people check out your podcast, all the great work? You do writing about the eagles in the NFL as a whole. Yeah. You can check out the letting dot com slash Philly for all our eagles coverage. And then the podcast with Bobo is birds with friends, you can subscribe, and all the places that you subscribe to this wonderful podcast. Right. Well, it's always a pleasure shale. We're gonna come back here with Kevin Siefert on the Bill Barnwell show after the break. You know, what's not smart the way hiring used to be job sites that overwhelming with tons of wrong resumes. Now, there's a smarter way at ZipRecruiter dot com slash Barnwell. And right now, you can try ZipRecruiter for free. That's right free. Just text Barnwell the two four six eight ten that's B A R N W E L L two two four six eight ten to try ZipRecruiter for free today techs Barnwell, the two four six eight ten texting privacy policy in terms and conditions are posted at WWW dot text. Rules dot US. Message and data rates may apply. All right back here on the Bill Barnwell show. I'm still dole Barnwell ESPN joined now by ESPN's Kevin Siefert talk about the NFC north. And let's get to that. Vikings Packers game from last night a huge win obviously for the Vikings against their archrivals. They go undefeated against the Packers. See one Owen one. And they still have a home game against the bears to come in the NFC north race. Now, let's start with Kirk cousins. Because of course, the the story hitting into this game. At least from what I could. I could see was that. He he was a quarterback who struggled in primetime. He had that sort of Andy Dalton reputation about struggling Pfizer on a national television. I figured it was four and eleven foreign twelve record in those games from not mistaken. Yeah. Foreign eleven four and eleven of course, last night. We saw a what I think was an excellent performance from cousins not perfect necessarily. But the numbers are pretty hard to argue with last night. Kirk cousins was twenty nine to thirty eight for three hundred forty two yards three touchdowns. No interceptions. A passer rating of one hundred. Twenty nine point five. So from your perspective. Kevin does this sort of take the monkey off of his back? We're going to keep having this conversation until he has three or four of these sort of games in a row on national television. Yeah. I I don't think that it's the end of the conversation at all. And a lot of the discussion up here in Minnesota has been and probably will continue to be, you know, inevitably his performance versus his contract. You know, if he had signed a one year, you know, even one year twenty million dollar deal with the Vikings this year. I think we would be looking at every game differently. Probably subjectively, I guess, but but regardless looking at his performance differently than we do when he's guaranteed eighty four million dollars. No matter how he plays or what he does the next three years. So that is the unfortunate albatross all the traffic will be around his neck for the three years. And he's probably because he's not drew Brees. And because he's not Tom Brady and as primer riders. Prime. He's probably gonna have some good games and some bad games. And at eighty four million dollars, you probably hope that you have a transcendent player. You know, he's most likely short of that. But still can be really good as we saw last night and certainly be the quarterback of a playoff team because he's all right? We know already know he's done that. But I think unless he is just like the way he was last night in eight out of every ten games or three out of every four games that it's going to be up and down enough that this conversation is probably going to go on for the rest of this year. And maybe the next two years as well. Yeah, it's hardly out of the question. And I mean the first time these two teams played thanking struggled on offense. They moved the ball, but Warren very effective until the fourth quarter when they had that famous comeback and ended up tying the game and going into overtime. So what do you think was different the second time around for the Vikings where they did move the ball pretty comfortably for most of this game. You know, I think that you know, I was going to say feel goes. But I don't think the field goals were much different. They they you know, they lost the last. They could have won the first game. Really? And the conversation would be mute muted if if they had simply made their field goals in that first game. And then and then in this one, you know, I think their defense played a little better. I think the Packers frankly are a little worse than they were Ben for what for various reasons, and you know, the Vikings probably have a better feel for what they want to be. There was a big long week long discussion about what exactly Mike Zimmer met when he said he wanted to run the ball more often and how that seemed to fly in the face of the type of offensive. They're built to have and the type of offense that you would want in this year's NFL. But I think they what they found is that is that last night. They can still be pass. Team and that it would frankly just with a few things differently. They could comfortably beat the Packers. Where they you know, were they were struggling to stay tied with them in the first one getting Marianne cooked combined twenty one carries for sixty two yards. And I like they were running the ball very effectively in that got a couple of third now stops, CJ Hamill. So I had that one carry for zero yards as well. In terms of the Packers and obviously against making a people coming in for criticism. Aaron Rodgers has done a lot of criticism over the last couple of weeks. And I think it wasn't warranted against the Seahawks because he was twenty one of thirty for three thirty two and two scores. I mean didn't make every single throw. But he made enough of the throws that that they should have been in that position to win that game. Ten we make the same case for the Packers this week because Rogers was seventeen of twenty eight for one ninety eight he did miss Adams on the along through that should have been a touchdown late in the game. Granted grantee lost a backyard for ten snap. The pass rush was on him for a good chunk of this game. How much of the blame for for this game? And for maybe the broader last week was a whole deep put on Rogers versus Mike McCarthy as the head coach and play caller. Well, I mean in terms of Rogers part of me is, you know, having seen the level of plays capable of over so many years. I think we get I don't want to spoil. But we have there's certainly without question. Unbelievably high expectations for every throw. He makes not just that. He simply going to hit the the guy that's right in front of him. But that he's gonna make this crazy. You know, twenty seven yard out throw that no other player in the NFL can make and when he misses that by a yard or two or his receiver isn't quite prepared for that kind of throw because no one else makes it, and then you know, their offensive failed. And so part of me thinks that just the way they've structured their offense. Whether they have injuries or not puts. Basically demands transcendent play Byron riders and when anything short of transcendent, they don't function. And that's that's what's been. That's what we've seen not only when he's had some down games. But especially when he gets hurt. I mean, the the times he's been hurt over the years. They've basically been non-competitive teams. And so that speaks to the broader sense. And now it's now two different general managers that have built the teams he's been on. We see. Would assure seems to be an over reliance on you know, how a famed quarterback to play at that highest level imaginable or else they can't function McCarthy criticism is warranted. In the sense that at least in the big picture, they're doing the same stuff. They've always done. You know, they look like they they threw in like it was almost like a troll job where they did. Like a last night. They did like a fake jet. I think where they had like two different guys that he he faked to before he through and it was like really slow motion, and it didn't work, and it just was not you could tell that. They had not like it wasn't a sharp as the team's that actually use that stuff. And I'm not saying that you have to have four guys in motion before the snap to be running at modern successful NFL offense. But there really isn't much different from what they've done, you know, really for this generation and under McCarthy, and Rogers, and and no matter how successful it was. It's not. That successful now. So I think he deserves a fair bit of criticism. And maybe you say, you, you know, you you live by sort die by storage, you, you know, you you can only succeed with what you know. But we know that's not entirely true when we track Andy, for example, in Andy Reid history or Bill bell, Jack history, or you know, even like my common history. I mean, their offenses offense has changed over time. And so as their defense sometimes for the worst sometimes for the better, but you know, for any level of staying power in the NFL resolve and I think that there hasn't been enough. 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What are your thoughts on his job security in his his work over the past few years at the Packers? I mean, I feel like he's entrenched. He has he entrenched himself enough that they had to go through a multi step multi year process to unin trench him. I think and the first step was Ted Thompsons mutual partying last year as general manager they hired Brian Gouda Casse who is by all accounts friendly and and respectful with McCarthy. And it goes both ways, but you hire a new general manager if if the coaching change hasn't happened immediately, historically it happens not too long after that. And so they haven't very. I don't wanna say logical, but very understandable and justifiable timing argument to do it now that, you know, the general manager came in and he got his feet on the ground. He made assessment gave him a full year. And he's going to move forward with somebody else. And the other thing, you know, in terms of timing that they restructured how the decision making goes in that Mark Murphy, who's the president CEO? Now has technically McCarthy now reports to him. And so that gives that gives Mark Murphy a little bit more sway a little bit more of an ability to absorb any any criticism or anything that would come towards him for cer- getting rid of the coaches had the historic success and McCarthy said, but in terms of the past few years, you know, I I I think I think if you you know, I'm gonna advocate one way or the other for they should. But I think if they did they would have a very fair argument to make for it more than given a. Fair shake by the organization would Mike McCarthy have been had a tremendous success success. But sometimes it's just it's just time, you know. And and and that was the same way with Andy Reid in Philadelphia. There were no hard feelings. There was no angst. There was no finger-pointing. You know, it's okay to to move on. And so I think that if it doesn't happen after this year, barring some crazy run they go on that that gets them into the playoffs. Then you wonder what it will be in? What would be the right timing? And what in what would be more justifiable now? So I guess I'd be surprised if it didn't happen assuming they don't make the playoffs. And if it went into next year, then they would definitely be subject to criticism for waiting to long. Yeah. I think I'm -solutely. Now, I will say this much, and I'm probably gonna look dumb by saying this. But I'm going to say it. Anyway, I don't know what the Packers are done as yet the four six and one. Yes, certainly not in great shape by any means, but look at the rest of their schedule their home against Arizona. Their home against Atlanta to pretty mediocre football teams there at the bears very tough match-up. But again that you know, if you get that magical game from Aaron Rodgers, which is hardly out of the question. He show that against them in week one not in unwinnable game put it that way. And they're at the jets and the host Detroit in week seventeen. Not the toughest schedule and the upshot of the New York Times, they're they're prediction model if you plug in five win for the Packers. They're in they're gonna get into and six and one you would figure so I mean, I still. Think they have a shot. I don't think it's a big shop. But I think they have a at least, you know, a best case scenario where they could have that run the table sort of reaction on Aaron Rodgers it seems like as not given up hope on that either. You know in the context is you know in this stretch where they cement their season stimulate been lost the wasa sift into the patriots in New England the Seahawks in Seattle and the Vikings in Minnesota. So it's not as if they. And they were at least they were in the last two games the Seahawks and the Vikings game for sure they were in to the end. And so it's not as if they're getting steamrolled by average team. So you're right. I mean, there's there's definitely you know, it's important to put their losses into context as well as their potential wins. But it would take it would take those five, you know. And they've done it before. But you know, I think most if when we're looking at the team that teams that have done it before and put especially in the Super Bowl year with I think they won their last two or three when they had to to get into the wild card, and then they ran the table four on the road. And what's win the Super Bowl? It's in them. But we haven't seen that that was the best Aaron riders probably ever played. So it would I mean a significant uptick in play from Aaron Rodgers from really good to unbelievable. Unbelievable. You've never seen this before in your life type play. Can he do that? Now, you know, if anyone could it would be him. But that's where it would have to start like you have to those steps with into this stratosphere the stratosphere what happened to me for him to pull the rest of that team into into a five game winning streak. Yeah. I mean, it's a really big ask. And they have injuries on both sides of the ball. They've lost Muhammad Wilkerson. They've lost Mike Daniel. On the defensive side of the ball bacteria. Like you said missed some time yesterday. Vikings in a similar situation, of course, in much better shape in terms of the playoff picture, but big entries with them on the defensive side of the ball. Especially with Xavier Rhodes who went down the us today. They recurrence of his hamstring injury were still waiting to hear on that as we recording this. But it seems like it's a really meaningful injury could cost them some possibly even. Yeah. The rest of his season. I mean, this is an injury that's been bothering him all year. But it seems like it really got worse when he went down yesterday. They're ready down. Mike us at cornerback after the rookie Tories ACL early this year. I believe I mean, I it's obviously, you know, it's a huge loss against the patriots who have going to me putting your defense. But over the course of the rest of the season if they're missing roads for the remainder of the regular season. The maybe he comes back for the playoffs. I mean can can they survive on defense without roads and without us against not just the bears. But then also the Rams and the saints teams are going to have to play probably in January to make it to the Super Bowl. I mean, that's one. It's one position that they entered the season with a with a lot of debts. And and you know that that's significant because the way Mike Zimmer likes to play defense with a lot of with a lot of defensive backs. But in the not only have that. But they also have under Sunday hose starting safety who's been out for a while as well. And so not that he is an all pro. Oh, but they have a guy Anthony Harris playing foreign that they sometimes use you know, they can mix around and using the nickel the big nickel. And all that. So it has a has a domino effect. They still have a for a team that potentially lost their number one corner. And then lost the first round draft pick at the same position. They still have more depth than I think most teams would have it's not like, the, you know, the eagles who were playing, you know, the practice squad basically in the in the secondary. They you know, they have McKenzie Alex Zander who was the second round pick a few years ago. And and you know, as functioning decently in the nickel, they have a hill own hill that was a rookie undrafted free agent that they actually think is a lot better than most, you know. And I think he is because it's playing a lot than most undrafted free agent. So they have to guys there who you know, as thin as most teams are at that position. They've have quite a luxury. And then trae Wayne seems to have even doubt he had a lot of injuries early in the year. But he's been playing you know, he's been managing to stay on the field. So that's always good to add your second cornerback be a pretty decent one as well. So they can manage it better than most. I don't think it become even as they rose is out. I don't think it becomes like eagles situations. But obviously goes from being a strength is something that they have to manage over time. Yeah. I mean just talked to shuck a potty in the first half of the show about the eagles secondary about okay off chances. And they're they're a mess in the secondary. The Vikings are in much better shape. Like, you said having Harrison Smith, you know, having trae Wayne's those guys are huge upgrades and what the eagles are working with right now. But I asked him about the eagle's playoff chances. According to FBI, I'm going to ask you the same question right now. At the Vikings are protected for eight point eight wins a seventy one percent shot of making the postseason h even twenty percent shot of winning the NFC north given what you're seeing from the Vikings given what they have coming up over the next few weeks. Are you going over those figures or are you going under in terms of their chances? I don't see them winning the division. So you can you can push that down. I guess two two zero ish for me. I'd be under the twenty percent. I, you know, I, but I do think that they, you know, just looking at the every week I need to I have to put together sort of NFL playoff picture. And you know, there's there's some teams coming in the NFC. But you know, it's not as if there's this huge logjam of teams that are fighting, you know, for the for the for the wild card in the NFC where they can't compete. I think they're going to be right in there. And they put themselves in pretty decent position. You know, they have a tough. You know, the the next two games are really tough there at the patriots and at the Seahawks. But even if they can you know, they can split those or or, you know, even if they don't win either one of them dolphins lions bears at home the last three weeks you come into that stretch. And you and you have to win all three of those games to make the playoffs. I think that's not a terrible thing to ask them so much like the Packers who who has. Losses against some tough opponents in tough period of the schedule. The Vikings are now headed into that. But I think they have a pretty, you know, I'm seventy percent seventy five eighty percent chance. Make the playoffs. Sounds pretty pretty right to me. Yeah. I mean absolutely scheduled get tougher. The Vikings have played the twenty fifth hardest schedule in football. So pretty easy slate so far the sheer per FBI thirteenth from here on out the bears haven't even a larger extreme when it comes to their schedule over the next five weeks later, the easiest catch on football up this point on the tenth toughest schedule from here on out there at the giants, and that's on especially tough game. But hosting the Rams hosting the Packers at San Francisco and then at the Vikings in week seventeen like you said activity again and ends up deciding the NFC north of things break well from Minnesota, but I'm kind of in the same boat, as you are, you know, I think it's going to be tougher than the division. I just think the bears have they've already too far ahead. They're eight and three Vikings are now six four and one's that'd make up just a little bit too much time. In the few weeks. They have left maybe Mitchell Trubisky does not come back and chase. Daniel this not play. Well, you know, the Vikings can have a chance, and I think they are gonna split these two teams here. I think they will beat the Seahawks in Seattle. I think they're just a better team. Even given the, you know, even given the sort of the boost the Seahawks get from playing at home. But I mean, I I think they're going to be a wildcard team. And I think they're going to be allowed Christian that's gonna give whoever they play a lot of fits. I mean, if you're the Vikings, and you're the fifth seed and you're playing jeez. The Cowboys or the eagles Washington with Colt McCoy in the first Janet city that they would be favored in that matchup. No. Yeah. No. That would you know a team that came in to to the season with suppo, you know, a lot of people some people picking them at least to win the Super Bowl. And then you end up being a wildcard, I absolutely think that they I could see where they favored against anybody from the NFC east. You know, that that that would that would seem very logical. And you know, they will we'll see whether Kirk cousins can be a play. Off caliber quarterback or whether they need them in that game. If you playoff-caliber quarterback or mid his go and play great defense, and and steal the show that way. Yeah. Absolutely. Kevin. So as a pleasure to have you on where can people check out more of the work? You do for us at ESPN. Yeah. It'd probably best go to Twitter Seaford at Seaford ESPN and usually shoot out. Oh, my links that way. Awesome. Well, thanks to Kevin. We had some news break actually while we record in the show. Blake Bortles has been officially benched for Cody Kessler and just seeing that right? I even shut off Twitter. So I can tell you my undivided attention. News story fix everything for the for the for the Jaguars. There's no doubt about that playoff. Run coming for the Jags Evert here for Kevin. Thank you so much. Have you back on later on during the season sounds good? 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BGN Radio #81: A Concerned Week 3 Preview

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BGN Radio #81: A Concerned Week 3 Preview

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hidden season one of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation look the baseball season is one hundred in sixty two games long and there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness you could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze rozier subscribe on Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP. You're listening to BGN ridden with Brandon Lee County and Jimmy Kimmel. What's going on leading greed nation? This is radio episode number eighty one. I am here with you. Randomly Gotten your host from leading renascent dot com. I'm joined today once again. The second episode made his big debut last week. In people around the nation around the world the run the universe really for being honest Ara talking about the debut of the one the only the writer for for recovers the Eagles Voice Doing Kamsky Jimmy Herro Brandon. How're you doing good kind of. How are you doing? I'm good yes okay. That's all right. That's all right. Thank you turn it off right now. actually don't do that because we have a lot to talk about probably too much to talk about but we're. GonNa try to get to it all. There's just a lot going on with the eagles a lot more stressful. I would say a lot more things than really weird. people are nervous. You are Linley that game that happened in any injuries injuries. I guess that's a good place to start. The Eagles have a ton of injuries here. They had thirteen the guys on the injury reports three and then on top of that they have like a half dozen guys that are already on I. R. Control Thirteen guys is basically twenty twenty five percent of your fifty three man roster. That's that's not good and good players on their two. Let's get into how I guess coming out of this Falcons game. I can't get over like I have to to start this from the top because this is Jimmy. Honestly I don't know how you felt during that game but watching the Falcons that game I couldn't process it like during the game and even after it was the strangest game and the thing that I'm still struggling to grasp. Here's how do you have three guys who combined for fifteen receptions. It's like two hundred twenty yards and four touchdowns in week one and that's all Sean Jeffrey Jackson Douse Qatar just get hurt and pre warm-ups. Jarque said now. I know that I'll sean into Sean played a little bit but junk said they were feeling uncomfortable in pregame warmups that we know Dallas get hurt and pregame warmups like what the Hell is that I duNno. It's crazy. I've never seen anything like that before. I mean mean you'll see it every now and again with one player but I've seen too much less three in. Here's the thing like I can recall like Reggie Bush that happened to him in two thousand thirteen. I think it happened. Ingram before goes played the giants on time but like those guys are in the injury report to like Sean Sean and got it right like I. It's too so my loan to me like Hi. Hi It's almost like how can you take anything away from that game because it's such like an aberration Piazza Anomaly. It's like oh I do. I judge this and they are I mean you can blame blame them a little bit for not having three tight ends on their oster. Absolutely there's definitely blame there but when you're going into a game and it's going to be heavy two tight end sets. It's the one here tight ends. In the pregame warmups they had the kind of adjust totally on the fly and then obviously as you mentioned you lose to your receiver pursue now. You're you know you're eleven personnel sets are there all screwed up and you're playing guys like jj our excuse me our. Theta whiteside and Mac Collins and the Nelson Aguilar now as your number one receiver end. It's bedlam. I mean it's hard to kind of recover from the that kind of major surprise happening in literally literally the first quarter of a game and before that I mean there's such a slow starting offense anyway. It's a slightly your throw that on top of it and you know I thought Actually Doug Doug Peterson getting a decent amount of heat after the game which is crazy to me I think I think that he actually coach this tough. Given the circumstances they must one Nelson Adler doesn't drop that gets a game. That's insane the fact that they are in that I think definitely tells you something about the team but just getting into the injuries a little bit more from where they are now. I mean they're just we you talked about. The injury report like the Sean is reportedly out for two games. That's the word from Tim McManus out with an abdominal injury apparently he had that like going into the season as Zach Blatt Latte Rosenblatt trump. I said Zach as I said as I do that I apparently he had that before we ones. I don't know that's all about you. Have I've often Jeffrey who I think Ian Rapoport kind of said like his status could be in doubt so it's a little more vague. He didn't practice on Wednesday for the walk through so we don't know what's going autumn. Dallas Qatar also not practicing their decimated early Jernigan to majority wouldn't have been a big injury two weeks ago but now is because he's one of your starting harding defensive tackles and you're going to have guys like Hassan Ridgway Man. I already forgot added. They signed those fence right and then Fletcher Cox has not been the same east of a player that we know him to be. He's just not been that guy so far this season he's been on the injury report speaking of injuries yeah well yeah. I think he hasn't hasn't been one hundred percent for the at all at any point this season so far and I think that's Kinda shown in or rather. It hasn't shown like he hasn't. He hasn't shown rather he hasn't unlike been any kind of impact player at all so far this season so that defensive tackle spot heading into the season a lot of people self included were like they're loaded there and now it's not loaded loaded in the word. I'd use that. There is a significant concern area for them. Now Lemme of three guys you you know. They usually like to go for deep and right now. They haven't made a roster move to add a fourth defensive tackle to the roster either I guess they wouldn't you know at this point. It's Wednesday already. If you're going to sign a guy I would think it'd be a receiver yeah. I the last thing on injuries as a whole I wanna talk about is dislike. So why do we think this is happening Everyone's like has a theory. Why what's what's what's the reason is it because this is not what a roster now you do? The AIDS study every year. Jimmy in their second will just roster like is it bad. Luck both like what's the deal. What's your theory. I mean the training staff. They fired some guys. This off season well-documented his nap away. I'd put it because kind of not as well documented like it's such a hard thing to evaluate and and to get information on in a thing like that that medical staff age may be part of it you know a a friend of of the pot. I guess she calls her as DNA from from twitter sunsets yes he put yes. He put out some awesome stuff on twitter about age in the correlation between that and injuries in can't came up as inconclusive so I don't know if that's it or not I remember that. HP's than I do every year so the eagles like you said are the second oldest team in the NFL at at Twenty six point. Six invite can actually go off track here for a second. Do that's what we're about here last year. They were twenty five point seven their average. Jj Twenty five point seven this year is twenty six point six when I realized that I just put out like when I did the eagles numbers I just tweeted very quickly for informational purposes last year there were twenty twenty a five point seven issue the twenty six point six and then like instantaneously a ton of people are are replying with like you know like the Nick Cage Gif of you. Don't say if like you know adding one year of age is normal thing. It's everyone got a year older yeah right right well. You know what if it were not so like that by that logic in one thousand nine hundred eighty three their average age was negative ten point six years old of the year twenty fifty. It'll be fifty seven point six years old pretty spooky so mad always you'll reply in that but the reality is they actually had the biggest age increase year-over-year year-over-year in the entire. NFL actually tied with the cowboys on that on an average INC of an average increase of point nine years years of age from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen so they did get significantly older from one year to the next which is kinda crazy because they actually lost like pretty significant number of older players this year from Chris Long to Michael Bennett bump der waals others. Mike Wallace is another one anyway. Let's let's Kinda goes on there but then this year they signed guys like Josh. mccown is forty two. SEAN JACKSON IS GONNA be thirty three in December vinnie Kerry Anderson Deo me Jackson ZAC background eljay Four Jonathan Super. No all guys are twenty nine years or older so like that eight pack of players. You look at what's happened with them so far. The Sean Jackson's is already hurt. Vinny Curry hasn't done anything yet Andrew Sunday. Oh Sucks Jackson is done for the year. ZAC Brown's fine whatever eljay for has not played a snap in the regular defense yet John Submarines played. I believe to snap so far this year so they signed all these older players couple few of them were already which kind of goes to the point that we were talking about before but like they do this every year and it worked fantastically in the year they won the super bowl in two thousand seventeen with all the guys that they signed from Chris Long to look our blunt to Torrey Smith you know they got like major contributions to all these sort of low money but aging player signings than it didn't work last year when they signed a bunch of those guys and this year so far not so good so that strategy looked awesome free for a year but the two subsequent years not looking great so far although I will say certainly distraught Jackson. Was You know obviously huge in that week one game but anyway I'm kind of way off track here. I guess the point is there is no point here in terms of in terms of injury correlation with age you know it isn't order roster in a half actually the most players in the NFL that are twenty nine years of age or older than eighteen guys that are twenty nine the that are either twenty nine China Roller. I think that's a good way to lay it out there. I don't think you can say it's age alone. 'cause the. Patriots are older right and I was gonna where they were with number. One last year for the oldest team won't have to look that up again. I think they're definitely up there. They they weren't now. They weren't one. The oldest team was the raiders so the Patriots I think were up there still number one this year right and they were like eighteenth and adjusted games loss last year so kind of middle of the pack hours the eagles. You know where thirty first thirty second being old isn't necessarily bad by the way like right. There's there's so many said for you know being an experience of I would know forty two bubby experienced. There's something to be said for that and you know guys that have played for a long time. They noticed like to go through a full season. I think in most cases those guys have playoff experience in finding good or whatever but the the aging of a roster isn't all that a complicated you know guys that move on or just the they're not good enough to play in the league anymore. They're replaced by what like two hundred and fifty to three hundred new players coming the NFL every year and that's why that's how that age number kind of just kind of stay sustained in the NFL on the Eagles have ten traffic over the last two years so like their roster. Mr Keeps getting old. You know they that one uptick in everyone gets a year older every year and then they add some additional older players and they haven't really done a very very good job of kind of loading up the right kind of filling the pipeline of the roster with younger players and at some point. They're going to have to stop signing all these or geyser here at least stopped trading draft picks these guys because at some point they're going to realize okay. We're really old and we're GONNA have to start over well speaking of trades. I think this is good little segue here ear Jimmy and Timmy as a person who's covered the eagles for years now as someone who is forty two years old yeah. Let's tell your qualifications agents here dealer Ramsey. I saw an article about it on voice. where do you stand on the eagles needing to get Dylan Rams. I think they should Adila. If the prices in excess just absolutely absurd so what's the most you would give up front. I would give up a one and you know like one of the younger corners like a city Jones or result Douglas. Whichever one you want had taken and maybe like a like a later pick d the three pick yeah like earlier like that like not like a chump change? Pick four or five man I so I wasn't that's a high cost it is it's a very high cost because it's not only so okay. Here's how I look at it. I if they made that trade. I don't think I would be mad about it. I don't think this is a bad deal. I wouldn't be ripping the eagles for for that deal but I think there. It's tough to trade that I I think the eagles I am like matters a lot and I think that's why they've been reluctant to part ways with it because there are are really counting on that rookie contract. You're talking about how they're getting older and you know looking at their tap situation like we always say in general. I think Eagles fans you'll observers always say like you can trust Howard Rosen of the cap and yeah that's true but he's also never had to deal with a franchise quarterback on the books like he does now counting on that first first round pick because you know it's a lot of people are just like Oh. Well you trade a first round. Pick you know that the the the player you picked anyway probably using going to be good Zalin Ramsey and yeah yeah that's true but like you have to factor the contract into it 'cause now you're going to have to make Jalen Ramsey like the highest paid quarterback in the League and he's GonNa have the leverage because he just traded a ton to get him so you're GonNa have to hang him. I think it's over like sixteen million per year. What would be the top of the quarterback market might even go seventy million for him. I depending on how that works works out there so I just. I don't think they're gonNA be the team to do it. I think that's where I kind of. Look at it ultimately like. I don't think they are going to be the team. I think you Kinda came to that. Same conclusion includes idea. I think there's going to be a team that is willing to pay more than us are so I don't expect it to happen. The only thing I will say is in terms of leverage not total the whoever does trade form isn't going to be totally out leveraged by him because he's on a contract this year for a minimal amount in fact like after the trade is done and the acquiring team will only be responsible for a salary which is a little bit over three million dollars. That's nothing for this year and then he'll be playing on fifth year option so you know it's not like he's GonNa be a free agent. At the end of the year they still you still have based on a contract for one more year so that's helpful in terms of getting a deal done it's not outlandish or totally outlandish the other moving to as as far as age goes he's only twenty four meal turn twenty five in a month but as far as managing it's fine in that regard just as he worth the amount of money that you're going to pay him. I think yes he is because you look at like the way the eagles build the roster. I obviously far more complicated than well. I'm about to say because they have all their are antics. nerds working on roster building whatnot the old eighty read philosophy which they still Kinda which they've adopted in still kind of us is anybody was like Gimme Nia quarterback. GimMe a couple offense tackles. Give me a couple of pass rushers a couple of quarterbacks and I'll figure out the rest so you feel like one of those extremely high priority positions with arguably the best player in the League at his position at cornerback you know I think that's a guy that's worth shelling out. Premium resources both in terms of draft picks and money to go get that Kinda Guy if you can fill that spot with clinical the best player the best quarterback in the League so the guy the eagles trade for is Minka Fitzpatrick. Yes dealers gave up a first round pick and there was other pigs in that deal too. I feel like it's Kinda hard to rip the Eagles for not getting God. No way also even if the eagles are offering like the same thing like if you're the dolphins. Why are you not taking the steelers pick like knowing that they could bottom out and be terrible and all of a sudden. You'd like a top ten pick. Probably GonNa be a top ten pack. Ben Rothlisberger hurt in done for he's going to be done for the season and he was done for but the season when the truth was made so it's not like they made the training and then it was the terminator is GonNa be out for the year. It was already known. He's GonNa be out for the year. Is that team. GonNa win. Six Games this year there are two with Roth with Rothlisberger. Are They GonNa win six more by opinion now so they're a top ten tech. You know if if you're the eagles trying to put together a package that's going to beat a top ten pick. You're just not going to do that. I mean I like making Fitzpatrick and I think he's a good fit for the scheme that Jim Schwartz from wants to ron you know in the short term as your third safety that you give a lot of snaps do not like third safety. That's just kind of in their here and there I think that's a guy keep appealed for the majority of the snaps but then in the long term he takes over for Malcolm Jenkins so I do think very good fit but I mean he was the fourteenth overall pick and you're going going to trade something. That's higher than that. When you're already lost a year of his rookie contract in your quiring him a few games into his second year I think the steelers are frankly dumb for for you know making the offer that they did and certainly eagles cannot be blamed for China for not topic that offer. He also just don't think you don't fully know what he is like you. He's from promise but he's not like dealing Ramsey. You know he's not like an established all pro pro player yeah yeah. He's show problems for sure but but he's not like it's not it's not like a slam dunk. This guy's no doubt about it yeah right right so some of the other things that we can wrap up here real quick. We got oh you know heels just sign. Craig James to the practice squad. I was just going to mention him. 'cause I was GONNA say they cut him him. He's back to practice squad for him. He's back on the practice squad. Which is where he should have been. Probably the whole time really when you look at the twelve personnel thing we talked about earlier and Alex LSS back now yes to a lot of people were saying that probably means gutter isn't gonNA play and I don't know I guess it could but like I think it's more a dislike. They amid the wrong move to not Adam around the first place. I think rather guy is healthy or not. They should have been having a third tight end on the roster. I think that's kind of a no brainer. Oh the other newsy thing I did want to mention. We were talking about injuries earlier. I don't know if you saw this Jimmy. Former Eagles the linebacker for like I did see that a week or two Chris Worley took to twitter on Wednesday into the lane of the E tweeted quote. I'm so pissed right now. How the Eagles handled slash handling my injury messed up world we live in. I just I WANNA provide the context here that door nephews once said he had quote unquote to really bagged diagnosis while paying eagles in Emmanuel chose. Obviously voiced voiced his displeasure but eagles medical snap. Yes suspect was the exact words he used yet so like I don't know I I don't. I don't love that. I don't think that's a a great thing that's not a good luck for the medical staff for sure and like you said they've made changes. I don't know I don't Oh no any of that means and with Wurley. I didn't even know he was hurt and I don't think we ever knew that so. I don't really know what that situation is even going on there. Exactly I think we can kinda close on the news. If that works for you Jimmy yes they cook quick break till you a quick break. We'll be back after this onto becomes the radio. The giants did the unthinkable this week when they benched. NFL Legend Eli Manning in the wake of this news a number of so called experts belittled manning's hall of fame credentials. Ask the reality is that manning should not only be a first hour block but if the voting is anything short of unanimous whoever votes no should never be allowed to vote again from a local perspective. Carson Wentz can learn a thing or two for manning who never needed backup to win him his Super Bowl rings additionally as recently recently as this past Sunday night went Smith's most of the series because the League demanded that even after Burke and Carson Wentz left his team high and drive just to make sure that he was okay while manning would've told the NFL this showed their concussion test right up there asked and he'd have kept lying. I'm Jamie Kamsky with. 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SB Nation only draft kings minimum five dollar deposit required right deposit bonus requires a twenty five times playthrough eligibility restrictions apply see draft dot com for details. Okay we are back from those great commercials. You just heard that we also heard in real time and we're edited later in post Jimmy kind of got in this already but it's Kinda give any closing thoughts on the eagles versus Falcons game here to talk about the injuries but anything else yeah should we. Maybe kind of go over. I guess concern areas that have cropped up in that game. Yes I feel way to put it. What what are the takeaways going forward. I think is at Saint. Malo isn't very good. That's interesting coming from you because you were talking about. You've been you've written in about building think I thought he looked good week. One Yeah how well how much of that I guess I WANNA ask like how much of that. Jd grits JD Garett here it. Why come into this name Great Greg Jarrett is awesome. Jd Garrett volumes. He's also great jared kid but at the same time I mean he just this got same obstacle lit up and you're right you look good week one and he was appears fine as started when he took over for seven was not last year but he does have these games where he's just. I mean he wasn't as bad in this game as he was week to chiefs against the chiefs a couple years ago. That's one of the worst games for interior nets. Guy said he should get benched. I think the prevailing I mean I don't WanNa sound like I told told you so guy. That's exactly idea exactly that right now but the you know the prevailing take on that was will you gotta get more time just two weeks but they were just. They're like no no he's. He's Kinda go though so bad. He's gotTa go right now so they're not. GonNa do that this time around but a say he's got to have a far far better performance in week three or you can be well. I guess he's not really endangered because they don't have who else you're. GonNa put in the big big. Chance Mak big has been bad a guard too by the way so that interior align spot now those three spots. If anyone goes down in Saint Malo is better. It's problem area that I don't think anyone kind of hat on their on radar season skill when the ten ten being the most concerning. What would you give that yeah six yeah okay. That's fair. what other concerns coming the falcons low wide receivers obvious. SCO position quarterback. I think when says performance I put some concerns the bed frankly for me. The is there's obviously bad at parts during the first half was the so like what what the F. was that throat like what was that intercepts out of true showdown sit Yanni. I still yeah yeah that was bad. That was as bad reception. He's had his worst interception ever but the way that he played in the second half I mean was yeah kind of special special gutty yeah and for a guy who gets a ton of criticism ooh doesn't perform good one score games which are like determined by so much luck in the NFL enacting otherwise is like so disingenuous he was awesome is really the only way to put. I mean he was. He couldn't even better if nothing makes a catch and Zachary's runs is route where that's a franchise owner. Back should show a short while you pay that guy that was awesome and he was any nice comeback win week. One too yeah yeah kudos. They're running back. I think there's some things you know. It's funny about running back or mile santer specifically like when he got drafted. It was like all right well. There's no concern that he'll be able to run the football in the NFL but the concern is going to be with Pat Protection and it's been the opposite so far I keep confide in pass protection bodies dancing behind and you know he's dancing to the back veils trying to bounce everything outside instead of just a taking what's there. I forget the guy's name on twitter but he showed Tehran where Aldinger Matt Waldman yeah he showed a clip of miles nursing jump cut initially and then there's a corner coming up to me. I saw and use outside leverage and he just goes into it right yeah. He will jump cut tries a little finesse move around a cornerback when really he should be running him over on a third short situation so I think he's got a lot to learn there and that's not uncommon for a rookie running back to Kinda run that way. Shawn Shaw McCoy did that for a couple of years really for he kind of came into his own. Soho get better. He's fine. He's down on the east you know how long do you stick with them before you before are you. Kinda have to give yet. Only give doug the ideas but but yet so that's a that's another concern for me receiver receiver of course uncovered that are a tight end same thing injuries offensive lineman covered -fensive end at the defensive end is a big one for sure. Are you WanNa you WANNA. Go right out on that. One zero sacks to the first two games. Not Great definitely not good definitely. Not We're looking for saks not being everything but there. There's something they sure are something I was looking at. football outsiders by justed saccharine legals ranked thirty first so again the having zero sacks doesn't help there in really they're not making an impact and I feel like isn't that a big reason a contributing factor the various by Jim Swartz felt like he had to blitz against against the the Falcons for sure already in that spot where like we had concerns about the pass rush going into the season and part of the reason I felt like I and that was a concern turn for me the especially like the fourth defensive thing having that depth there but I felt like that was mitigated somewhat by having such a deep interior now that that's gone yeah so I I just don't feel great about that. Spot over all my worry about defensive ends probably like I think we put it last week about seven. I'm saying it's at least like an eight now yeah well for me. The concern was not the starters really it was the depth behind them but the starters just brand. Graham sets a nice tackles for loss. That's great but they're six quarterback. It's in the NFL yeah which is nice. He's doing nothing and you know I think we mentioned on the podcast. Francey showed you know some really legitimately nice. Pass rush moves that he made in that Washington game I haven't really watched closely. The Falcons game but in the hits are nice but you prefer the hits. Komen quarterbacks still has the ball defensive tackle. We already got on the injuries linebacker fine. I Dunno select. We're talking about this and neither Rodham has not been the really good and I think that's not surprising. He didn't really do much in the offseason keeps coming off injuries still he might not be under percent. I don't think linebacker hurt chafee. The linebacker is an awesome. I just think it's not ideal getting it could be you know it's not great I don't think it kills the defense. Here's what I'll say. It's not like tight ends or killing killing them. although it'll be it's running backs are killing like the run game has not been good like orange. I'm sorry the opposing they've they've done a good job against the run of it's not like running. Backs and tight ends are killing them in the passing game so yet at least yeah right. It could be on the horizon but we'll Hodgkinson's good yeah. He is and we'll get into that so cornerback. I think that's really the big one safety. I think we're well being violated. Day was terrible the depth their starters but let's I secondary as a whole. Darby is clearly not one hundred percent in my opinion towards New York says he is. He's got us full speed back end. Teams are GonNa Continue to target them happen and I think actually city. Jones have been fine. So far in result has been. I guess fine now. James's fine actually Brian Clough Rodney McLeod has looked pretty good to me especially in the Falcons game at least in terms of expectations heading into the season coming off of his injury CEO a fair amount of snaps weak one. They came down significantly week to not enough. I mean that deep ball to Ridley was horrendous like biting the cheese and on nothing in front of them there is there wasn't even anything in front of him. He bid on nothing the Pasta Goto reside in he's got out. I better go back on this and it wasn't even in the ballpark. It was funny about Jim Schwartz by the way so like anytime anytime you ask him something. That's leading him to into like maybe bashing Ashington player. He'll just say how many times you guys got asked me these kinds of questions. I'm not gonNA answer but only say that if you you ask him a question about somebody legitimately having a bad game or bed will somebody asked him about Darby and that's when you talk about Darby being back one hundred percent or whatever I asked him if Darby's should have had was expecting safety help on the calendar the touchdown and then ability music I don't know how many times have you guys got asked questions like Echina- answer them but basically the translation on ad is inches should have been back there. He I think a a common feeling I have when it comes to press conferences and stuff like that. It's not about what the coaches or players say. I think a lot of times it's about what they don't say yeah. I think that kind of goes along with what you're saying. They're not that'd be like we needed him to say it anyway. It was clear as day Sunday like screw that play up the confirmation in doesn't say anything yes so I guess yes we can kinda transition out of that game and kind of refocusing or into the the lions the lions probably the mining granted yeah. I couldn't think of who they're playing really really bad job by me so they're playing the lines this week obviously coming off all these injuries coming up this. Sunday night football loss. It's a spot where the eagles you know. They really got to win here. 'cause you're otherwise you're going down one and two going into. Green Bay still dealing with a lot of injuries for ended was is this a must win game. I think it's pretty important game. I will say that. Is that a must-win game but they got to win. I didn't say it's not a also say I love that but yeah yeah it's the BETTA loses game. People better not lose this game. PEOPLE ARE GONNA turn bad bad. They lose this game. Police should I so let's start with the eagles offense whereas the lines defense yeah you know it's GonNa be tough for an eagles team. That is undermanned severely now. I think the fact that they'll have an actual week to give players reps like I think that does make some kind of difference you you heard. Doug Peterson talk about how U. D. D. Cross Al plays on the play seat and not only that but he also was specifically highlighting. How like as accurate had detail Mac Collins and say wait side. I had to like where to line up on a given play so I saw. I think you know having at least a week to kind of get through that and didn't have a full practice today. They cancelled cancelled that very controversial some are calling for Doug Peterson so we have those radio kidding on that obviously or whatever that was those those are big but Bob Girl I. I'm sorry I call you Bob but let me fight inside all this thing. It's a it's awesome because like nowhere in the article does it actually suggested I clicked on it and I read it. The headline says but the headline it says headlights canceling practice puts Eagles head coach Doug Peterson on the hot seat is wrong. I love you man. That's awesome. Bob Didn't actually write that so I don't know if that's creating that headline for him so he goes offense versus the lines matchup call you gotta good. Just leave this all in kiss. I know you're editing. Is You know this leaving laughing in this really good all right. Eagles op-eds verses. This is the line Stevens all right remember. We're going to take it back to one thousand nine hundred here. Okay the Eagles easily. GonNa find a way to run the ball in this this game which I actually you know. I'm not kidding. They actually do need to figure out how the ball a little bit in this game because when you do have your top two receivers out and and you know one of your top two tight ends more than likely you're gonNA count. You're running into some degree so the lions are allowing five point two yards per carry this this year and they've only allowed one rush of twenty plus yards that Russia was for forty yards. It says you're my article so basically what that means is. They only allowed one big gain and they're still averaging five point. Two yards per carry allowed It's not just the one brush that's skewing than average the teams they face a far been able to run the ball against them so they do have personnel that is your toward snap stopping around lake snacks. Harrison which who the eagles well from his days in a New Jersey with giants they whatever reason have not done a good job as we mentioned before Mile Sanders has to stop dancing background. I think they're going to continue to try to sprinkle in Jordan. Howard who by the way look very weak. One less so weak to there wasn't much open for him. I think he kinda got. What was there nothing more but I think they still got a kind of mixed. Those two guys up you know one area that the eagles are GonNa have a little more success than they had in the first two games and then the eagles receivers line secondary. I think Darius slay is is right up there in terms of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and if Sean Jackson were playing. I would imagine he probably see a lot of him. You know I mean if they're all a healthy alshon. Sean the whole the whole gang were were there. I think you pry primarily be going with Sean obviously with Sean out if al-sharma there then you'd probably shade him quite a bit but he's probably not. GonNa play so you're GONNA have Darius. Slay probably mirroring Nelson Aguilar so you're probably going to have to have a lot of MAC COLLINS IN IN J J. You know getting a lot of targets and those guys have to step up actually thought Mac stepped up to some some degree of fifty s he did. You know what should be reasonably expected of him. Some crucial third and fourth down two versions too yeah yeah I mean he was on the receiving end of that ridiculous. Wentz play were went sky feelings. He has gone to the ground but JJ is going to have to be better than was recognized. You've got to be better than he was last week but seventy five snaps falcons one reception for four yards ethic was four targets who are targets clearly not on the same page with Carson Wentz. I mean some of that seems to be expected considering days not really working with the starters for offseason yes and and he's a rookie so he's not gonna now. I'm not saying that like totally excuse me I'm saying like some struggling could be expected. It's not like he no. He needs to light the league on fire but you know birds with our friends on Vertu threads but wolf audience at Berman. We're talking about Alexander. Rookie receivers are really two good starts. I mean you saw Terry. maclaurin obviously tariff the Eagles Secondary. I think we can certainly expect a lot more then one reception for four yards especially now that he has a full week of practice to Kinda. You know get these reps and know what's going on more so definitely want to see that. I guess really in addition to the run game like I mean it seems like a lot to ask in the sense of like Karston being is because he was in that second half then. You're going to need something like that again. This is going to have to be a game where Carson arson again. You're right. He end you know he plays what home is typically so he's on the spot where he should be able to be comfortable and excel and again having in this week to prepare knowing that the sect against him but yeah this is the kind of game where again you're paying that franchise quarterback money to him like he needs to step up and carry the team and then fourth quarter. I'm sorry I know what our first-quarter offense. I'd like so they the excuses are there for weeks wanted to this. You know we we already mentioned in week. Two where you have a three three three major contributors offense go down forty hours before the game starts all right fine week one. You have have what was the. I can't acquitted. Dunbar is his head butting eagles receivers after every play in finally gets the Sean Jackson that pushes head away after one of them mm-hmm they throw a flag on the sean pushing back fifteen yards that stalls a drive in the I corps so the defense can get off the field right so okay fine. There's no more excuses like we three legged. You GotTa put points on the Board early or it's just it just got to be something that builds and builds and builds and builds until you break out and you put up some points on the board. I where I don't think this means everything to me but I you know Douglas to defer am generally in favour of that differ but like just given the way the I duNNo. Maybe just get the ball and just like go get an F. in touchdown now do it just get out there and do it because like it's time it's time to do it then. Doug as hoping open they lose the toss and the other team defers so that like it wasn't a choice to get the ball first. We can flip it over. I guess now to the Eagles defense versus the lions offense here. They're better than I thought really especially at the positions to me. Kenny Golladay is like that that guy when you're drafting your fencing team. Were you know his name. You know he exists but you don't know a lot about 'em so you don't take them. I've always been when do you agree with that or is that DUB now. I know to beat you hard strategy now. I think you're saying so. I guess I just you know. I don't think a lot of people overly know all that much about him. He's really good the first two weeks of the season he leads the team in receiving yeah yeah in everything. I think in all all categories of receptions yards yards per reception tight end is leading in that. TJ Hodkinson whose birth overall pick in this draft and he looks very good so they have golladay. They have Hopkinson they have you know a solid number two in Marvin Jones and they have Danny Amendola slot receiver so that's a decent group group and then the running back is carry on Johnson who showed a little bit. I guess was rookie last year. Yep Yeah He. He showed a decent amount. I think there are fine. Then Matt Stafford was at one point. Maybe a little underrated now talk about underrated enough where he's probably little overrated I don't know he's got a big arm can get streaky. He got he's gotten street against the Eagles before eight touchdowns zero interceptions L. is it as out. It is okay so he's he's had success against the eagles before I think their skill position players are flying under the radar a little bit but they're good I didn't watch most of their game against the chargers last last week. I not only put up thirteen points on the board. I do think their skill position players are better than people think they're also mentioned this about their offensive line against the chargers others who have Melvin Ingram in Joey Bosa. Yes we're like do the best arguably one of the best you know. Pass Rush Tena GMS in the League the end the lions by the the way we're playing without starting left tackle Taylor decker. Yes tyrod crosby left tackle. Lyons gave up zero sacks in one hit the I dang. That's pretty good. I think this is one of the best unions in the League especially if you know they're missing their left tackle but I mean I don't know like they just turned in a pretty good performance i. I don't think it's like a bunch of slouches entirely on their gay noted as they have a little bit of continuity there because they've been together for a little while so decker was first round pick in two thousand sixteen. They're left guard was a fifth round. Pick in two thousand sixteen Joe Doll Frank Right now is their first round pick last year Cram Glasgow Twenty Sixteen again third round pick and then they signed. They gave leave a lot of money. I think to Ricky Wagner the right tackle in twenty seventeen so they've been playing together for a little while. It's actually maybe a better thing for them. That Taylor Decker got hurt because he stunk week one like in his place. It was a guy named tyrod crosby from Oregon. I think he was a I think they drafted him last year. You know it's not like they're having a new pieces on that offensive lines. They kind of know each other well enough so maybe that's part of their success. I think you know when you look historically teams. That have a lot of turnover on their offensive line's. They struggle there but there is something something to be said for office of lines that have been together. Get it for a long time like the eagles have for the for the most part yes. Oh you know we're looking at the eagles pass that we already have concerns about going against an offense wine that I think is at least decent and I just as we're going along this preview podcast feeling great about about the start. Derek Burnett has to have a game this week of sack like the defense has to get sackler other deckers back or it's or it's their backup left tackle. He's gotTa make an impact this week. I've and decker was limited in practice once again limited all last week so still kind of unclear where he's at maybe as to be dozen. We'll see you know it's GonNa be tough. I think I I talked about this with you last week Jimmy. I don't really put the pressure on the defense as a whole like like you know I think the offense in general is going to carry the team more but you know with all these injuries now on offense like you're GonNa need a little bit more out of the defense in and Jim Schwarz's credit in the defenses credit. I I think they did a good job last week. They forced three turnovers. you know they kept the eagles game tonight. You know they gave up the touchdown to Jones but I think they did decently. They did enough where they could have been in a position to win the game again and again. That doesn't make that drops. Oh Yeah really important mass for this team this week. Do you have any the final thoughts on the match ups. Due before we go to break I do not okay so we will go to break and we'll be back after this. I'm Jamie Kamsky with a BGN radio minute. Some Peterson still high off his team's first Super Bowl win decided in August that his starters were above above playing in preseason games and then this week he made the decision to basically cancelled practice on Wednesday the most important practice day of the week and while the Eagles are sitting by the pool chasing the muff around teams like the cowboys and Patriots are hard at work and getting better. Maybe maybe Peterson believes that practices an important anymore or maybe he just has better things to do on a Wednesday then coaching football team or better yet. Maybe he'll soon find that had every Wednesday free to spend at the country club after he's relieved of his duties at the country club. He's trying to create up an over are complex. I'm began ski with this. Pgn Radio Minute Spell Experience Baseball truly it is awful. I'm phillies writer writer. 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GonNa keep track first of all. I didn't know we're keeping track of US well. We are well only if I do well if I do well then I'm gonNA. Keep track and bring it up enough. I'm not I'm just going to forget about it. Conveniently Yeah Brandon sends this thing says he's too and I wanted to. I'm Su- first of all I'm seventy five. If we'RE GONNA be accurate on my on the picks each would I think it only counts on the podcast and these were only picking the NFC east should be It should be sort of an expertise area a more fair than I the rest of the league and you pick the giants over the bills next week. You should feel shame that was never the bad. One has a dad that was bad tech. That was a bad thing. I didn't believe in the bills so in all right but the giants are clearly very bad. Let's start with the giants because there's a lot going on with them. They're going down to Tampa Bay this week. the buccaneers are six and a half point favorites at home. The giants have a new starting quarterback his name is Daniel Jones. They bench the other guy eliminating who is now one hundred and sixteen wins in his career in one hundred sixteen losses. US perfectly five hundred for his career is not a hall of Famer Jimmy. How do you feel about you lie in the hall of fame spectrum and how do you feel about the scheme well it. It's like you mentioned. Record is one sixteen sixteen and he's never want at any point during his career in my opinion never never never never one point. Was He like a top ten quarterback. NFL would you agree there like I live in front of us. Even maybe friends like you said some small points in his career and then in the last seven years he's flat out stunk yeah. He's been asked by the way that doesn't dislike not count. I taking throw at the last seven years. It's like Abbas career important and then the years when he'd when they did win the super bowl awesome the inaugural argument about this with the what we were just getting into some of this last week a giants fan on twitter on this where he was like. I only know this right like I googled little very quickly research but he was a he was third the MVP voting in twenty eleven. He can't possibly be right. What's why can't that. You're you're right nine and seven or something looked at his numbers very yet every night at seven. They won the Super Bowl but I'm VP voting happens before the playoffs began. They wouldn't factored in obviously play from that they went on but he was like twenty nine. touchdowns sixteen interceptions. I mean accumulating cares what that is but voters do guests so I don't remember what it was. It wasn't great. Can I redo a quick snapshot. You limit your garage and it is from Reuben Frank and he pointed out here that in twelve the fourteen seasons that Eli Manning has been a full time starter so twelve fourteen the giants of not won a playoff say overtime so twelve fourteen seasons. That meeting has been a full time starter. Yes that's the giants have not won a single playoff game right yeah. They never won a playoff team in any of those in any season other than the two years they want so he got in this bucks match well. Let me let me let me find one more okay. This is from. I gotta go gotTa Google the computer. The year that Nick foles twenty thirteen viewer Nick foles was like on fire the twenty seven and two year at one point during the middle of that year. I figured out that to Jimmy. What are you talking. What about Fema talking about that was Mike by the way that was all right. I can't find anyway the the big reveal the big reveal all right him but it was sitting like if like the next thirty passes or someone Mike Nicholls is next thirty s were intercepted he would have still a higher passer rating than Eli Manning in that season and people Orlyk. There's no way that could be right and they're really testing. It has been sure enough. I can put out some. It's not true so yeah so sorry for wasting all your time for grueling that but not hall of fame is what we're driving at here and John. The giants are button is favored by six and a half at home. I'll take the buccaneers finally okay yeah. I think so too you know Dana Jones. He played well in the preseason and maybe there's something there but I don't know show me somebody something a little bit in the in the regular season for did you see the Joe Banner tweet about this matchup. What was while you don't. I WANNA start rookie quarterback against Todd Bowles defense what that's tough sledding. It's too tough. It's too hard can't can't do it. What's going on okay great. We have this quarterback who can play against tough defenses in the NFL glad we have them at number six overall Irish I respect jail now but but like all right moving on but both sorry bowl in the media house he saw that tweet as well has he made the Joe Banner tweets about Todd Bowles loves tumbles and he said what would happen if a team with Dion Lewis went up against Todd Bowles defense while got Joe Banner famously a big deal guy too yeah. He just can't tweet at that point. I think Jason step away or tweet. Impreza both sides. It's like that gift of the guy's mind blowing up dolphins at cowboys. Cowboys are twenty one and a half point. They've raised the first time in thirty. Something years that two teams are favored by more than twenty. I don't even think it's hard call. Yeah Nah. I'm taking the cowboys. Why would anyone be like oh. I think the dolphins are GonNa like what would make you think that yet or not that I mean regardless of who they're playing like. They've been absolutely blown out in their first two games. They've announce word like something widely one hundred and something there point differential. It's minus ninety something. I think that's pretty easy. It's the cowboys. Could it really cannot have asked for a better start. The season you start with an Eli manning starting quarterback giants in week one at home you go and play Washington on the road who stink opposite eagles had some struggles all of them but still cowboys host the dolphins in week three and then they get the saints in New Orleans but drew brees isn't even going to be starting yeah. He's hurt. I mean like pretty good start to the season for them. I have always maintained schedule. Comes out that you WANNA get the the garbage teams on your schedule. Upfront yeah because it's more likely for a team. That's supposed to be good early in the season to not be good later in the season because they was a quarterback or whatever may be whereas you know a team. That's projected projected to be bad. It's less likely that they're suddenly going to be good at the end of the year as well get the bad team early so they've got they've got three straight up garbage garbage teams right off the bat and then yeah the fourth weekday the missner starting quarterback. The cowboys are the good. I'm not trying to SRI. Yeah for sure for sure they at all like I got you can get the argument that they're only playing bad teams. I can't be held a fully against them but at the same time where I kinda do factor in like okay. This is what we should've expected though it should have been like well. I don't know the cowboys when these games I mean yeah. They obviously should have been winning. All these games like this shouldn't i. I shouldn't change anyone's opinion like dramatically on the cowboys outlook like I don't understand how that would happen like looking at their schedule. I think you would expect them to win. These games anyway. Dolphins are minus ninety two by the way okay so if you extrapolate extrapolate that over a sixteen game season minus seven thirty six belong here. I'M GONNA guess that to be a new record that sounds about right on that one the last. NFC East trio we have here is the bears who really should have lost that game in Denver got screwed on that roughing the passer call him. It's risky which is not roughing the passer. At least that's the way I saw it got handed. They got handed a win there. They should have been defeated by a very good broncos. What's The yes they are. Four point favorites of on the road in Washington because Washington is also tries. That line is so low for the bears yeah. I figured it would be higher higher than four pairs. I don't I think that Washington we disagreed on this last week. I think Washington is worse than the giants. Have you G- Washington in any other year where the dolphins weren't keenum's been okay as bad as they are. I think they're the worst though you think the so you think they're the second one the second birthday of the NFL Washington Yeah. I went a long way to say that they're the segment. KEENUM's looked okay though right enemies as before. I mean that's well okay okay so risky. I thought he thought he was battery. into the Eagles he was against Dallas last week there airball no now but there are some really bad throws that he made there's one throw on third down where there's a guy pretty opens by the sideline pretty easy throw these launched his head seven recall that I think even texted like Nice throw case every battle I don't know I will still hold on. Let's recap. You giants have the giants. I'm sorry sorry we both have the cowboys aloys. Do you have a giants or buccaneers. Oh I have the bucks I had the bucks to bears Washington screw it. I'll take Washington at the points. I'll probably regret that but whatever I don't want to have US pick at the same pace that we will be back back after this. Hey Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown. Forecast Your avengers of college football podcast it says here in the script to riff on what that means and basically what is this all orange every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP okay again once again. We are back here for our final segment segment. You're on this week's edition of Jan Radio. part of lingering nation and again you can follow Jimmy on Philly voice Jimmy. What do we have here for. Were Your Eagles versus lions prediction. I want to say that as this podcast has gone along. I feel even worse about coming to the podcast so so what's your prediction Asia one eight four Twenty Three Eagles Twenty four twenty three eagles so they barely eked out. They don't cover Jimmy. The line for this game is insane to me. Have you seen this have you seen and how much they use. Our favorite went down okay but even still but why was it ever at seven and a half because it was at seven and a half which is I why I I don't understand now. I'm looking at it. It's still six depending where you look at six and a half seven six like that's that's pretty crazy to me like why why why are the eagles favored by that much. I think it should be if I was studying the line or at least I would. I if I would have guessed the line I would have guessed like eagles were three and a half point favorites grits I would have had it higher than that because I think there I think people would view them as being the better team than Detroit and the ad on the troika the though right yeah on the three for home field advantage. I'd had it actually I would have had around five or six okay but seven and a half I agree agrees to rich man. I really don't love betting against the Eagles in the spot because I like Carson Wentz more than like Matt Stafford. I like Doug Peterson the whole hell of how Matt Patricia who is dislike he's literally one of the least aggressive coaches in the League Yeah Doug School him before obviously when he was with the Patriots this team team like the Eagles have pretty done pretty well on their back has been against the wall before and it kind of feels like how it is this week with injuries and everything even though they're favored. It's like just the kind of at least in Philadelphia. The perception very much is like things are everyone isn't feeling great and I think some of the things going around this week like the Eagles canceling their practice today. I don't even think that's a huge deal. I'm not certainly not firing doug. You're putting on the hot seat about that but like something just feels off about. This team is to me like booting the injuries and everything it gets. It doesn't feel great like the the vibe is not super like awesome yeah so I almost WANNA. Take the lions here just because like I don't feel amazing. Now Ray seem right now almost but I mean I'm taking them to cover. I'm taking the lion's to cover for sure I will. I will take the eagles to win. I'M GONNA say they win this game. Twenty two seventeen soren same ballpark low-scoring to and honestly. I don't feel amazingly competent in that score prediction a AH THIS IS A. I don't know it's like the lions shouldn't be. They're not as threatening team. You don't look at the Lions and like Oh my gosh. I'm scared of the lions like they're really freaking good but the way you kinda laid it it out so they have some things going for that. It's not it's not a total. I mean they were up big on the Arnold. They're better than I thought they were going to be before. The season began you look at this game schedule. Go Win win like you know the next next. Look at these Ryan's home win an adult you know we don't feel that way now not at all but they're they're a better team than I was giving them credit for. At the beginning of the year the again Europe I think twenty four to six and the cardinals before they kind of lost that lead ended up tying in overtime and then they beat a charter seem decent. The chargers are a horrible team. Not In charge is very good and again. That's a jet win. Beating is yeah yeah. That's a good win for sure. They stymied that pass rush to day stymied stymied it yeah so so we both near goes narrowly winning in this one jimmy any other final thoughts before we wrap up this edition. He really stymying the ear buddy try. I think I'm good you happy with the reception so far to BGN radio yeah okay cope good God heavy. Everyone's been so kind nice and basically. I'm just trying to make you say anything if you lightly your. Hr Department was was terrific best. Suzanne Suzanne Accounting was very nice. Okay Great. Give me apply. Oh that's great what kind of apple more of a Pumpkin pie enough. I don't like any. Oh Oh my gosh well. We'll get into that. I gave it to my parents and okay. That's so that's good if you'd like to me and you like his addition to this podcast. You should definitely leave a itunes review. give us five stars. Tell us what you like about Jimmy or what you don't like about him or myself or whoever but definitely you five stars that kind of helps the podcast helps support US House of Eagles fans find the podcast so you know do your fellow eagles fans a solid and help them find the podcast and speaking of fellow fans the one thing I wanted to say as a final thought is so. WGN's going to kind of have like a tailgate designated spot in the jeter a lot this year our good friend seamus clancy. Seamus Rachel more sentencings. He's going to be there with an actual like. BGN flag going to hook him up with he's also going to have some Bgn logo t shirts there so if you're an eagles fan and you don't have a spot the tailgate or we do but you Kinda WanNa go hang out with some other people I'm not going to be there necessarily every week. Depending on what's the time is at my covering the game. I am among the elite elite like Jimmy in the press box but I will be there. 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"I'm just kick are telling it and here are today's CBS three eyewitness news headlines Businesses, and the public are preparing as tropical storm. SIS gets closer. The rains are expected to begin tonight and last through tomorrow night half a foot of rain expected. It was a violent weekend in the city of Philadelphia with multiple shootings including what is now the tragic death of a seven-year-old boy who was caught in the crossfire Philadelphia homicide unit officials confirm seven-year-old Mark Jones was pronounced dead this. Afternoon at Children's Hospital Eagles coach Doug Peterson spoke today for the first time since testing positive for covid nineteen. Peterson says he's feeling fine. He's excited to get back to the novacare complex to take care of the eagles again, and the phillies will be back in action tonight for the first time in eight days, they'll take on the Yankees in New York. I'm just kick cartel. Be Sure to follow us on facebook and twitter CBS billy. We'll see you later tonight on eyewitness news.

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BGN Radio Special: The Future of the Eagles w/Zack Rosenblatt

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"They. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be ballers podcast work for all of your Sixers needs layer analysis. Game breakdowns with a colts in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts he'd I tune Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Welcome into a special edition of VGA and radio. I am your host today. Michael kiss. You follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed. NFL? All this is brought to you by SP nation and bleeding green nation. So make sure your following all of the work. There are bleeding green dot com as we start to pivot to draft season free agency resigning all of that stuff. We've got your covered. We're also going to keep you cover here on this feed. We're going to be popping out regular shows. So don't worry we are not going anywhere for the off season. And what we're going to start doing is. We're gonna be talking with some different eagles beat writers to get some different perspectives in here from eagle's perspective that might challenge the way that we might see some things on this show here in the first part of that is I'm going to be joined here in a second by sack Rosenblatt, you can follow him onto her as Rosenblatt to tease. He is a beat writer for nj dot com. Make sure that you follow all of his stuff. We're gonna be talking about Nick foles Carson Wentz. Brandon Graham a lot of different moving parts coming into this off season that's going to create a lot of intrigue with. Philadelphia Eagles team. He's also gonna pick a Super Bowl winter. So we'll see who he's got in the Super Bowl. So what we have next here on bleeding nation is me and Benjamin solich have broken down the film of these saints and eagles game. You might not wanna hear it. But that's the job. So we're going to go through the film review and see what we saw why things happened. Why things went the way that they did in that game? But that's next right now, we have Zac Rosenblatt from nj dot coblets could order to that right now. Zac, welcome into bleeding green nation. How you doing brother doing great? Thanks for having me on man. Absolutely zack. Let the gentle listeners know where they can find you. And where they can find all of your great work. Yeah. I'm on Twitter at Zack Z A C K B L A T T, and you can check on my stories out at nj dot com slash eagles. So Zach first question house, should we feel about this two thousand eighteen Philadelphia Eagles season because it felt like it really didn't start until well after the by the eagles couldn't put together consecutive wins. But they somehow. How sneak their way into the playoffs when a playoff game and have their season ended in a heartbreaker to the saints in the divisional round. Obviously there were high expectations coming into the season on the heels of a Super Bowl win. But should that be recalibrated a bit due to the insane amount of injuries throughout and do you overall? It was successful season for the eagles. You know? It's interesting discussion because I think if you just put down on a piece of paper just the facts of what their season as they went. They won the Super Bowl last year. And then they went nine and seven they snuck into the playoffs in a lost in the same round where they started last year. So in that sense, you have to say to disappoint, but it's a little more complex than that. Of course. Because you know, they started off really slow. They had you know, more injuries than I can ever imagine a team having a season. It seemed like they were dead ten different times. You know, then you get to the point where they lose to the Cowboys art will now I think on our podcast. I put the nail in the coffin like three different times. And then I had pulled back out when when Nick foles comes in. And you're everybody's saying, you know, there's no way Nick foles do this again. Then he does it again. They win four games in a row including upset in the bears. So the way the season ended, I think you can at least feel good about going into the offseason. I think you still have to call the season as a whole disappointment. But I think you can you take a lot out of this. And I think they're going to be a lot better in the long term weirdly because of the season because you have guys like, you know, von Dematic's, Dallas garter crave on the blank, you know, all the all these young guys who are kinda thrown into fire before they probably should have been. So they were able to go through their lumps in via Matic sitting seem like he had them any lumps for the most part in that you have these guys were all coming back in you have injure guys back next year if they can just get some health. I think they're going to be one of the best teams in the NFL season yet you hope next season they come in a lot of healthier than they did this season because they had a lot of guys. I mean, brain grand didn't hit full stride until I think around week ten which is round when his doctor said that he wasn't going to be going to be one hundred percent back and you saw him really come on. Now. Derek Barnett goes down, Ryan McLeod. We know all the injuries. But the one thing for me that was like the biggest. Takeaway was the fact that through so many weeks in the beginning of the season. It just felt like there wasn't the same field to the team. And then when you get to the saints game, which was obviously the low point in the season. It just felt like they didn't have any fight and guys like Malcolm Jenkins were calling guys out and it kinda rubs some of the other guys wrong way. But ultimately they end up responding and transforming into what we recognize them as in two thousand seventeen and were able to put together a run in restall dangerous despite all of the injuries. I think that was the most encouraging part for me. Would you say the same for yourself as far as the fight that they showed at the end there yet? I think I think Doug Peterson deserves the leader to but Doug Peterson deserves so much credit because I was as critical of Doug as anybody through those first ten games after that saints loss. I specifically blamed it on him. I thought his messaging was weird throughout the preseason. And he's making a lot of strange decisions. You know, he wasn't being as aggressive as he was last season. It just felt like. He pulled back. I don't know what it wasn't. They were worried about Carson Wentz. Neil. I don't know what the whole plotline was behind that. But it was a little disappointing the way he had coached him up those first games. But he if he's good he's great at anything. It's keeping even head in being willing to adjust when he something not working, and he did that like so well into the point where like, I know the only one nine games, but I don't think there many coaches that had better coaching job than him over the second half that season. And he deserves all the credit for that. I think that's the main reason I can feel confident going forward, you know, that you know, things start off slow next year. Ideally that you don't want that to happen. I think they're gonna learn a lot from things went this year. But Doug Peterson as a coach that things are just not going to get out of hand. They could like you mentioned they could have in that locker room. There were multiple guys that were even complaining a little bit about plankton. You have JJ right before we found out that he tours ACL was pretty much anguish had more carries and Corey climent kinda implied that he wished. He was getting more playing time and you had guys like saying stuff like that. And you have Jason Kelsey also comment where he said there wasn't really that much count ability after they lost some of the vet. Rens last year. And then you know, where lot of teams would have fallen apart after that, they turned it all around think even see some team like the Jaguars, for example, they fell completely apart. They had the locker room to to stomach that now on the coaching staff was able to keep together. Like Doug is. I think you can feel great about this. This team's future as long as Doug Peterson the head coach. I I completely flipped how I felt about him after the mid season. He won the Super Bowl for the last year. May we none of us should have doubted him anyway. But I mean, he deserves all the credit in the world. That's a great way to put it to when you took suppose it to what the Jaguars were. They didn't have the stomach. They don't have the iron stomach of his Philadelphia Eagles locker room to be able to turn it around against those odds. That's a really good point. I mean there there was stuff to about you know, guy seines Aker it's being targeted too much. Yeah. There was a ton of stuff going on around the same time in along with injuries along with the losing. You felt like they weren't even going to going to be able to right the ship, but Doug state good with messaging. They body and eventually got the playoffs. So there is definitely some hope. There's a mental going there as well. In speaking. Doug peterson. You wrote a fantastic piece about how Nick foles and Doug Peterson became initially intertwined a highly recommend that piece of the listeners. It's pinned on Zack's Twitter page, but Zack in your time covering foles and interviewing people about him. Is there anybody that isn't like not glowing about his character as a man as a human being? The whole joke of like where lane Johnson when Nick foles got really angry during that one game. I forget what it was. Now. I think it was maybe the game where he got angry and lane was trying to lean into here curse at all. And eat still here. Gerson I in my head. I don't I don't know if Nick foles ever said a bad thing about somebody. And so it's hard for it's hard for me to believe there's anybody who thinks ill of Nick foles, and I was at the university of Arizona same time as I was like a year or two younger than him when I was at the student newspaper one of the first football game. I covered as one of his last ones, I covered his pro day. He was always like a very like nice easy guy to talk to low key back. Then you know, he wasn't wasn't that great of an interview. Actually, he was pretty bland in his his teammates all made fun of him for the way. He did interviews. It's like didn't reflect how he was like buying this them, really. And now, you see him these press conferences in joked about this at one of his press conferences, at the end of Nick foles press conference, you feel like, you know, he didn't maybe answer any of the football questions. You asked him. But you feel like you're ready to go out and take on the world. And he has like. Affect people in it. I mean, it's interesting because I just don't I don't know if you can find somebody who has been like close to him in close with him and interactive him who doesn't love him. You see that around the Li I mean, even like to bring back the Jaguars. Jalen Ramsey had the whole thing in the preseason worry free trash talked every single quarterback. Besides Nick foles. In course. It's just the men respect. This guy has earned something about even beyond the football part of like just his aura has followed him throughout his his life. And I think that's part of why you know, as I wrote in that story eagles had intended to go and work out Brock Osweiler. I'm sure eagles. Visit happy that they change their mind because they started watching some tape in the funny thing is like the tape there. Watching him was one of the games a reference quite a bit is a gaming it's USC from his senior year that they actually lost us playing behind like to freshman offense of Lyman. He was getting hit almost every throw any still hung in there through flag over four hundred yards. And that kind of where they they saw the kind of guy that he could be and I think we saw that over these last two years where he just doesn't waiver under pressure. He's even college, you know, he had times where he lost out on a starting job. And he didn't complain in any mound of just taking it back and never looking back. And I think we're kind of seeing you know, when he's given an opportunity tends to succeed in a lot of it has to do with being around the right people. That's that's one common thread through all the interviews. I did if you look at his career when he's been the most. Successful. It's been when he's around coaches and people that he trust and believe in and I think that's going to be an interesting factor that people might be considering as much with free agency. And we're going next like the Jaguars for example, just came up today because John Philip was hired as offense coordinator. And while I know his connection them. I don't know if I if I see that as a great Fitch because it seems like a dysfunctional franchise where you look at you know, team like the giants pathetically if they got rid of Eli Pat Shurmur, he's coached with him. And they have they have town over there. So I think that's going to be the biggest factor in Nick foles deciding where he's going to go before we talk about that. I do wanna touch on something that you mentioned about how you leave Nick foles press conference. Like, you don't know if he answered the football question, I say that all the time on the show because I listened to Nichols press conference. I go this is this is this is has football anecdotes in it. But this is about life like this is about being a human. And it's it's fascinating to me. He he's his press conferences are awesome. But so let's talk about what happens with with foale's here. Does he? Opt out, you know, is traded ISR attack. Or does he shocked the world stay for less money? He's such an enigma that so hard to look at with our normal understanding of not just athletes really quarterbacks. There are, you know, many quarterbacks with a mental makeup where you know, they're breaking ping pong paddles when they loosen getting into blow ups on the sideline foles just isn't that guy. He's not that crazy fiery competitive type as a competitive do, but he's not like that like over the edge type tube. And maybe that's another subject for another day. But you get the feeling with whatever happens. It might not be what you expect and not many might, you know, not fully understand it at first, although recently, former NFL agent and CBS analyst Joel Corey said that the eagles would part ways with foale's without a trade that the eagles will pick up his option and fulls will opt out do you. See it going down like that yet. That's kind of my thought so much as to happen for a trade to work out because you know, it's really complicated. I you have to go through the whole option process where I don't see. Scenario where foles ops into that. Because he can probably make more money knowing that if he wanted to train them they'd have to franchise tag. And so the franchise tag. They place on him. That'd be worth twenty five million dollars in the eagles would be risking that. If they place out on if he if he accepts a tender that's twenty five million dollars that they have to pay guaranteed to him like right there, and that restricts what they're able to do in free agency. And all that, and it restricts probably their options, they can find in the trade market and in order to trade him. He needs to accept that twenty five million dollar tender. So how many teams are willing to take on a guy? He's gonna make twenty five million dollars next year. And I just think it reduces, you know, the amount of teams that would be willing to do that. And if they wanna do right by neck foles than it's just let them go. I know how he Roseman I found it interesting that he kind of leaned heavily on the we have to do what's right for our team. All the time we love Nick difference. But he majored emphasize that we have to do it right for our team. So I'm sure they're gonna explore the trade options. But I just don't see it being fruitful as you would think because in order for trade to be worth it. They would have to get at least second round pick out. Because on the open market foles is gonna get a big enough contract. It seems like to wear the compensatory pick will probably be a late third round pick. So if you're not if you're not getting better than third round pick. What's the point of going through all of that in risking losing? All these guys that maybe they wanna sign so I think they let him go at knows some people have the pipe dream of 'em just accepting a pay cut in returning to backup. Carson wentz. I don't think there's any way that happens. I think fulls more likely to retire than come back to eagles as backup. But it's going to be the most interesting storyline in the off season. Even beyond the eagles. I'm still curious to see what that market is like for him. And I don't think he's playing for the eagles again, though. I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of screening signs one of those one day on Rable contracts, or whatever and the fans have appraised for him or something that would be awesome. Yeah. He definitely deserve it for bringing us a Super Bowl slow moving off from Nick foles, the organization made it clear in their urine press conference with Howie Roseman Doug Peterson that Carson Wentz is the quarterback of the future of this team myself. I thought. Quarterback controversy stop between foles in Winston a lot of people talked about was just a lot of noise and largely ignored it probably for the sake of some clicks and some downloads and all that. But do you believe that there was ever a doubt in this organization's mind about which quarterback they would be moving forward with in the future and never had a debt? They've invested quite a bit in Carson Wentz. And I know Nick foles accomplish law for the city. And I think that's why the fans affects your emotional attachment to him all what he did last year and this year, I think he certainly put more pressure on Carson Wentz. But that's that has nothing to do with who they're going to choose. You know, went after carsl. Lynch's back injury was initially uncovered Mike K myself, we both cover the eagles for comment. We we survey some agents executives around the league in almost universally. They thought number one that eagles. We're gonna keep our heads number two. But not only would they extend him. But probably will be soon, and he probably will be at at the time. He signs it because he's thinks change constantly. He'll probably be have the highest contract of any quarterback in NFL history. To the point where he can make thirty to thirty five million a year. And the fact that teams still think that around the league, I think it's pretty obvious that they're gonna go. Carson Wentz is a guy who has potential to be in the Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady, Sean of guys as great as Nick foles is he's a winner. He's he still has never been a starter for a full sixteen game schedule. I know technically Carson Wentz hasn't either. But the he would have been if he was healthy is appointed. Nick foles wasn't that. And he's gonna get an opportunity start somewhere. But I don't think it was ever discussion. I think Jeffrey Larry's heavily invested. Carson Wentz thing. High Roseman is Doug Peterson. There's a reason why he keeps on doubling down on Carson. They're going all in on him. The most interesting thing will be if he's able to live up to Nick foles has accomplished in that's gonna be really hard to do. And I think that's going to hang over him to the point where I wouldn't be surprised there were fans start viewing. Carson Dada esque light, whether that's fair or not in it. I don't think it is fair. It's going to be hard to win a Super Bowl, and it's gonna be hard to accomplish what Nick foles did. And it's going to be very interesting to see how are so when starts being received by this fan base going forward. One of the things I'm most looking forward to seeing nichole shadow is going to loom large over Carson Wentz for sure there's no doubt about that. So we'll see how the fans treat moving forward. That should definitely be interesting. Now, I the guy along with Nick foles that is probably moving on at least it kind of feels this way after the locker room clean out. Brandon grand gave all the media members a hug, quote, unquote. Just in case did you get a hug from Brandon Graham? So unfortunately, I was I was on my way home from New Orleans sign wasn't able to get to that. But the funny thing is like that morning. So I talked to Brandon quite a bit locker room after the saints loss, and he didn't sound like someone who's going to be returning. You know, he said, I one point he said something along the lines of you know, I go out there and play my hardest. And if they don't like it enough, then they're thirty one other flavors like say thirty one other teams in the league. But you know, part of my story that I wrote is like one of my first days on speed early. There's started a before the season during last offseason a little after the Super Bowl one of my first days, I never met Brandon Graham. Out of nowhere. He just like hugs me pretty much lifts me off the ground and says what's up like this? He didn't know my name you'd never before in that right away to kind of guy. He was and I I've been pretty convinced. He was gonna leave this whole season. He's kinda talked like somebody who's kind of been like, you know, if this is my last one, whereas most guys have deflected the question you've never been someone deflect questions anyway. But just the combination of his age how much money he's gonna demand on the open market, which I think is a lot because he might be one of the best defensive ends there. After like, DeMarcus Lawrence is equal either get franchise, tag resigned. So I think he's gonna get a lot of money on the open market and eagles, historically, even before, you know, Doug Peterson chip Kelly back in India read as they were never big on giving lucrative long-term deals guys over thirty as good as Brennan Graham was is here. I think he did take a little bit of step down from last year. I know yet to recover from his ankle. It doesn't seem like a marriage is gonna continue. But I don't think anybody's gonna say he was a bus like they did in this in the beginning of his career. He became a hero in this town, and he had a. A great career. But yet I don't see him returning another article that you wrote recently was about the current running back situation, and what are out there for the eagles. Let's start with the big one because there are obviously going to be some questions about this. We get them all of the time lay on Bill you characterized as a pipedream to sign him. I one hundred percent agree for the reasons that you stated but a last while you're here. So the listeners can understand why we both believe this. Why is it a pipe dream for the eagles when it comes to acquiring labial bell? There's so many different levels too. Because yet number one you look at the eagles salary cap situation there over the cap, and I understand it can get under it by declining Kohl's but in order to get enough money to pay levian. He turned down was like seventeen million dollars from the from the Steelers like so if he's expecting at least that there's no way how Roseman is paying unit fifteen million dollars to like anybody. Let alone a running back. I think Fletcher Cox ceiling one even comes close to that on like a year to year basis. You know, he didn't play all last season. They in order to get under. To the point where they could even pay him what he would want. They would have, you know, get rid of probably Jernigan. They have to accept the Jason Peters isn't coming back. And then you have all these roles that you have to fill and you don't have the money after you pay Levy mbelle, like if anybody could pull it off, it will be Howie. But there's so much stuff that has to happen in just again, historically, Hirose has not been a guy who invests in running back said chances to the last two years in the draft, which he has admitted in retrospect both times at those drafts were strong running backs. And I'm sure you guys talk about on the show a lot of Donald pump free. 'cause I know Ben so lack is a big fan of his. But a they came out of that draft Donald pump free when they drafted plenty of guys dispatched year that good estate in the first round and got Nick chub. You know, there's been free agent opportunities in they've opted to go with the low cost options like la- Garrett blunt. And I think they see what the patriots have been able to do over the years and just not heavily invested in though. The patriots us the first round pick to be fair. But generally speaking, they use guys that they find out the scrap heap or they get on a chief dealer a veteran. I just think that that's the direction they're going to go. I mean, a lot of depends on if Darren sproles comes back. I don't see Jesuit came back here unless he signed a super cheap when you're deal, but even then I don't see it. So I I see them going after a guy like latavius Murray's or somebody like that. And or drafting somebody in the fourth round. But I I don't know if the fans are going to be all excited about the guy. They wind up at the top there upshot next season, but you can win with an okay group of running backs. You don't need an elite guy. And I know the running game was a problem this year. That's for sure. And they need upgrade. I still think it's going to be the pipe dream of levian bell. Because it in so many ways it it doesn't work while at the same time. You know, it's tantalizing thinking of the idea of him in an offense with all Sean, Jefferies, Akers Dallas gutter Nelson is in Carson Wentz. That's insane. And they score a lot of points. But you're sacrificing a lot of the roster by doing that. Yeah. I I would agree in one other name that'll throw out there because I don't think he's going to happen. I I don't know if lead for net letter for net is back with the Jaguars coming into the two thousand nineteen Susan. I was a lot of things going on there. But. I just wanna put it out there and deal with this because I never gonna get questions on it too. I'm a big no personally on for that. We're talking about continually banged up back that isn't all that productive Winnie's healthy that brings no pass catching up side. And from the whispers that I'm hearing and seeing what people are sending me in what received public publicly to just feels like there's an awful locker room presence with him there. So he gets a big pass for me, if not someone like him who do you who do you think from the guys that you listed, can you? If you were to give odds like what would be the number one. That's at. Let's let's take the rookie out of it will play a little game here outside of the rookies if they would acquire one back whether it be a high end or low in signing who would it be wise it Spencer wear because I really liked special where he was he was on my list outside the names that I have in mind that like fall under the criteria that we just talked about would be number one latavius Marianne. He's a guy at my eye on a because number one. He's been. You know, he's been he's both been the number on back for teams before the raiders. And when Dobbin cook was injured last year, and he's been part of rotation. He's been pretty effective in both pretty good runner. He's at decent pass catcher. And he's actually he's close. He's close, but he's cool with Carson Wednesday same agent they worked out together. He's my I don't think he would cost much could probably sign him to one year deal. He's he's kinda in the mold of the type that they've been trying to get it like for short yardage in red zone carries. So he's kind of like right memel. Exactly. Another one Spencer rarely mentioned. He again, he's another guy who's both been like the lead guy, and he's been in part of rotation which I think what they're probably looking for with the number on guy. Doug Peters, if they brought him in because because Doug Peterson spoke highly of him, and then you can feel good about it because Doug coached with him. When the chiefs below Powell is like little more under the radar, and you know, he's that exciting of prospect. He's just coming off in injuries already thirty years old, but he's really good pass catcher. And he's been really good as part of rotation when he actually gets opportunities. Jets didn't always give them. And then the one who I'm not sure how much is gonna cost which is better come down to alternately free. Agency is a Tevin Coleman. He wasn't great. When he took over for. Devante freeman. He probably shouldn't be like a fulltime workload kind of guy. But if he's if he's a compliment to Josh Adams Corcoran and Darren sproles, and I think you feel pretty good about your group. I see like Powell, but the idea destruct made that the idea of emergency podcast for below. Pretty interesting. Let's see let last question here. 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BGN Radio #63: 53-Man Roster Predictions

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BGN Radio #63: 53-Man Roster Predictions

"Hi this is Jim from the step over the rollers podcast. Talking Seventy sixers tune in this off season is my Coz Max Nighthawk next steps and slowly recovered from sixers raptors game seven over over a span of many many months were listen back to old episodes and make fun of how Romney were to be confident only on the espionage and Podcast Network Ladies and gentlemen. Can I please have your attention. I've just been handed urgent and horrifying news story all the Stop what you're doing listen. Hello bleeding green nation and welcome back to B._G._N.. Radio this is episode number sixty three. I'm John Stolnis from bleeding green nation dot com you can follow me on twitter at John Stolnis. We're just a week away from the start of training camp so the dead zone is almost over everybody. We're GONNA have some actual football to talk about here in a little bit but we got a lot of good stuff on the program today as well <hes> we got an interesting story about Doug Peterson Howie Roseman and the relationship between those two guys thoughts from from Jianye on what makes Doug Peterson so darned successful. We'll take a look at some Eagles Training Camp Roster battles by way of predicting the fifty three man roster and beal g and I will give you some bold predictions for the two thousand nineteen season and will throw a Hashtag your way towards the end of the episode so you can do the same as well joining me as he does. Every week is the man behind bleeding green nation dot com may he forever reign. You can follow him on twitter at Branagan Brennan g how you doing Pal John. I'm doing well. Training camp is right around the corner just wrapped up my eagles position preview series or training cam and after going through the roster more position by position <hes> definitely have some maybe new thoughts or some new insights to certain certain little things going on on the roster after really kind of just getting in there and taking a closer look that will come up here in our fifty three man roster talk all right. That's great yeah I mean I I had a little bit of trouble there. Some obvious guys that you know we're going to be on the fifty three but there's <hes> it's the guys around the edges that are the most interesting and you never know when they're gonNA pop up and you're going to have to rely on them during the course of the season so we'll get into that coming up here in just a minute but I wanted to start off with some comments that Doug Peterson made this week <hes> that I thought were were really enlightening as as to why I think he's a good head coach Nick why you think he's a good head coach as we look back on some of the failed marriages between eagles head coaches and general managers. There's been a lot of power struggles during the course of Eagles History Recent Eagles History <hes> we saw it obviously with chip Kelly and Howie Roseman to the point where Roseman got banished to a whole other part of the Novacare Complex Howie Roseman got last lap and as it turned out on that one but Andy Reid also battled for control of the roster and Ray Rhodes battled for control the roster so I mean going back to the nineteen nineties this has been a thing with eagles head coaches and this is the we're going into the fourth year of marriage between Doug Peterson and Howie Roseman and there doesn't seem to be any kind of issue there and it's because of Doug Peterson he in his book to the media. I got this NJ DOT COM but I don't know if this was anywhere else and he he basically said listen. I was hired to be the head football coach not the general manager I was hired to teach football how he was hired to do the job that he does. There has to be great communication and Great Dialogue Between Those Department's coaching and scouting he said when I came here in two thousand sixteen that was not my expertise talking about getting players I can sit here and watch tape and write a report and say this guy can do this this and this and until we get them in the building and coach up he just don't know you lean so much on our scouting department department and so he talks about the open and transparent relationship that he has with Howie Roseman but what I really liked about this B.. L. G. is that Doug Peterson seems to know himself. He's a self aware guy. He's a humble guy and I think that has you know we always hear like in the corporate world and really probably even in the sports sports world everything else you do the media world for sure you gotta be cut throat to get ahead. You've got to be looking out for yourself. Willing to step on the guy below you to to move up in Doug. Peterson doesn't seem to be that kind of Guy Beeld Vick now. I think really you know looking back at it and Doug Peterson is really just the one eighty version of chip Kelly in many ways <hes> not just in terms of not wanting personnel power but just even as aggressiveness like we always talk about that Doug ended up being what we wanted to chip Kelly to be as a coach and now with the personnel aspect in the fact that Doug is very hands off in that regard. I mean it's kind of the dream when you think about the ideal D._M.. Head coach appearing I mean like in theory. Your coach should be doing everything he can to possibly win. You know this week this next game. They need to do everything they can so you want their focus to be on that and when you had chip Kelly you wanted his focus to be on that you didn't want it to be on the long-term outlook so that's a conflict flicked of interest rate there yet to Kelly Doug Peterson the head coach whoever it is should always be focused more on the short term. It's not their job so much to develop a player five years down the road. I mean player. Development is part of coaching. Yes <hes> that's an element like that's not their mean objectively. Their main objective is to win this week. They can't worry about like trying to give someone extra reps in developed somewhat knowing they they need to win now on the other side harassment the front office. It's you know they can look at the long-term outlook of this thing and be like okay you know we're we're focused not just on this week but down the road as they have to be you know they have to consider the the salary cap in draft picks and all those implications <hes>. I'm sure there are moments maybe or our discussions or debates. Whatever you WANNA call it where there's there's always going to be a conflict of interest just with those two sides and as we talk about the fifty three man roster here that's kind of something to consider where you know? Doug Peterson might want Darren sproles on the roster because he feels like during scrolls can help him win like this week right now <hes> whereas Howie Roseman and the rest of the front office might be like well done has been hurt and signing him. You know might not be the best where the long-term outlook. We have Boston Scott here. We believe in him as a future player as me giving anything I'm not saying that's what's happening with that specifically but I think that's the kind of you know the two different outlooks you have here in for Doug Peterson the be so hands off. It's just ideal because you can just let the personnel staff in the front office do what they do and just focus on coaching member Lin Andy Reid when Casey originally and when he was talking about how like it was just so nice for him to to get away from the personnel and <hes> you know Kinda be done with having to think about all that and just focus on coaching so hopefully that continues to maintain here. I really think it will like. I've never thought that Doug is the kind of guy who's GonNa make a power play that you just does not seem like it's him or he's he's interested in in. Why would he be a he? He won a super bowl with the model where he didn't have to pick his player. So why not continue that you know it's an interesting. The thought is what if Andy Reid never did get control of the roster and he just focused on coaching and game planning with that roster that he was given would they have been even more successful mighty have won a super bowl. I mean I don't know how distracting it is but I know there were times when when a coach has the has the ability and the authority to cut a player or has to make a decision on trading player or something like that it's going to affect how they treat them as a coach to those those really need to be two separate for jobs you know in baseball the other sport that cover managers don't have control over the roster and it really rears its head a lot when during the trade deadline when there's a you know when the team has a shortage and there's a lot of holes that need to be filled a manager just says I have to play with the guys that I have on my roster. I gotTa make sure I can go out and win with the with the twenty five guys that I have right now and I can't worry about what we might have next week and I think that's the way it should be for coaches and general managers. There's a reason why there's there's a delineation generally generally speaking between those two jobs. I don't I know bill parcells said he you know he's going to do the cooking then he should be able to go buy the groceries. Maybe there are some guys who who can do that. Well Bill Belichick can do that really well. I'm glad Doug Peterson not trying it because I suspect act eat when you have your your your mind divided between doing two different jobs. It's going to affect the one job you had before. I would think negatively even if it's just a little bit yeah. Absolutely I think deals are fortunate and I think that when you know the the change happened meaning you know from Chip Kelly over the Doug Peterson knows wondering like okay. I think this could work out. I think going back to the will where the eagles were in terms of the Andy Reid era could work out because it worked for them before but I also wondered like if it lacked division of it lacked <hes> ingenuity are they just like well. This didn't work or it's going to go back to what we did before right. So you know try something dis- keep trying to forge ahead and thankfully you know for their sake. It worked out and I'm sure they're going to be a model is is a stable model. You know there's no there's no power play happening here. You know you have hirose and at the top you've Doug Peterson as the head coach and that's that's great. Hopefully that's something equals can build on for years all right bill will we are just a week away from the start of training camp. It's I think it'll be good to talk some Eagles football again. I know that I'm looking forward to talking some eagles football. <hes> you know even as a guy who loves baseball on and loves the PHILLIES IN PODCASTS about the phillies. I'm I'm burned out on that sport man. It's been a rough summer and I think the whole city is ready for Eagles football to get underway and for training camp battles to get underway and you know listen we we have been talking about it all summer long. This is not a team with a lot of holes. They're not going to be a lot of roster battles for starting positions. I think we pretty much know if everybody's healthy who's going to be in the starting lineup from week to week but there are some positions where that's not the case where there there are some muddied waters a little bit so we're going to go through right now and give you are fifty three man roster. I will start off with the offense. Let's start with the quarterback position and I'M GONNA go out on a limb here and I'm going to say Carson. wentz is the number one quarterback for this team had now two thousand nine. I know hot. Take bold prediction on that. I'm saying it's I didn't make that one of my bold predictions for later in the show but I mean I guess we could we could make it one <hes> winces <hes> it went to the number one quarterback but <hes> seriously looking at the at the Q._B.. Roster I guess the battle will be for number three quarterback right. I don't even think there's one to be honest with you done <hes>. I think it's Carson. I think you'd snake felt as your number two and then I think it's Clayton Thorson make the team as a number. Three Cody Kessler was clearly the fourth string quarterback in spring drills. He barely took reps even again. He was always fourth. The guy's lack of arm strength is so apparent so I think he's just a camp body. I think Thorson makes the team is number. Three now thorson needs to show a little more than he didn't spring. I guess he might in the preseason games. I don't need to awesome. I just think he needs to so something. That's like okay. That's why they drafted him. That's why he's worth developing so I don't need to see something from him in camp preseason and but I think it's pretty cut and dry when it comes to Carson's your starter nate sutter the backup and then Clayton Thorson as the that you'll drafted in the fifth round and are presumably going to develop i. I'm not overly comfortable with Nate Seinfeld as the number two obviously but that's the direction the team is going to go here with the backup quarterback and you know I don't i. I'm not wild about the fact of having a really good veteran quarterback on <hes> Carson wentz his heels. I Want Carson to just kind of know this job. This is not be looking over his shoulder everytime bad game ojea. They're going to bring fitzpatrick in now. You know I I don't I don't want something like that but I also am a little concerned with with Nate Seinfeld as as the backup quarterback but I'm looking forward to seeing what he what he brings to the table in training camp and I'll be relying on your eyes while you're down there <hes> watching him every day and hopefully your upbringing back some some good reports on on Saalfeld. Let's look at the running back position here beal G. and again. I think we know who at least two of these guys are. Jordan Howard Mile Sanders of Fifth Sandra's hamstring ever decides to be healthy again will be your top two running backs as far as the back end of the running back crew and the matching they keep four running backs on this roster beal or do you think they just go with three and if so who's the third year that's kind of an interesting spot to <hes> <hes> to look at here. I think that's one of the more real training camp battles really for the second year in a row. There was a battle for fourth spot last year. We are kind of looking at that which is funny because it really didn't matter you know at the moment you know it's like who doesn't really matter too much for running back is the eagles are set one too. I think it will be Jordan Howard as you're really you're kind of one a early in the year especially with sanders you know missing time in spring practice and having this hamstring issue <hes> and then just getting up to speed with the playbook and and you know some of the issues he had in terms of pass blocking and fumbling in college I just. I don't think you don't think he's the Guy Right at the gate so <hes> I think he'd come on as the season goes along definitely think that can happen <hes> so those are one to Jordan Howard Howard Mile Sanders and then corey climate has to be number three <hes> assuming he's healthy. I'm guessing he will be he was doing rehab work in spring practices. I'm guessing he'll be ready for camping if not right out of the gate maybe a week or two into we'll see be great to get him back a pass catching third down back in this offense and then. I don't think it's impossible that you could keep five windows smaller. The seems to always be on this roster he does. He's ubiquitous sadly nothing against window personally a dislike we we can probably do better the eagles like his special teams. I was GONNA say how is he is a special teams guy because some of these some of these positions are going to be mostly special teams guys right. Yeah I mean he played some some of the most special teams snaps among the team last zero so the eagles count on him there but hopefully this move on honestly in my projection. I have small at off because I just feel like Easter guy and is he really any yet like claimed if you cut him like I think he'll be out there on the market if you needed to bring him back for injury your or some some other reason so that leaves me with John Adams. Who was the eagles leading rusher last year writing the rest of your? I don't get it with him in terms of like where his path is to make the roster some people are like Oh. You can't forget about Josh Adams in the Mike. I'm not forgetting about him. It's just that he doesn't really elite pass catcher. He doesn't really help out on special teams especially as a returner or anything. Where are you seeing his role on the team like I just don't understand <hes> my keep him around so to me? My fourth running back in the situation will be Boston Scott not yet. They talked him up a lot. During minicamp Didn Doug Peterson Literally Talk About him as a potential Darren sproles replacement which I thought was very straightforward and Kinda surprising that that yeah and he saw the first team part return reps so like if he's not returning punts <hes> who is I notice Sean might do some of it but I was specifically looking through punt return numbers for a special teams preview. Yes I actually did that on bleeding nation dot com you can check that out and the Shaun has averaged three point three are- punt returns for season since two thousand twelve twenty three total against since the start of the two thousand policies and so it's not something he's exactly done a lot lately and he turns thirty three this season. I don't know how much returns he's going to be doing but then I was looking back through Boston Scott part return history too and he had none in college. He has never done it in a regular season game so I think that's kind of an interesting spot there the fact that he's getting the first team reps makes it seem like he's going to get that chance to be that guy and I think if he shows something there and he fits the profile of a player who could be a good partner. You know like in that sproles mode are mold. I should say a little guy who's in kind of make people miss so I'm guessing it will be Scott but I'm not super confident often that one hundred percent. I need to see something from him this summer but I don't think he's he's locked in already like Botham dot show me something this summer see. I don't understand I mean punt. Returning seems so easy. All you have to do is track a ball that comes off the foot fifty yards on in the air watching it in the sky the whole time knowing that ten other screaming maniacs are running down the field looking to knock your head off and then trying to figure out if you can catch it whether or not you should run with it afterwards and if you're GONNA run with it afterwards running the into the right direction so that you might be able to gain some positive yardage do not get smashed in fumbled the ball and turn the ball back over seems like an easy job to me. I I think the less experienced the better you know I've always I've always thought punt returning the craziest job because you know that there's like a freight train heading towards you and yet you can't look at so you've got you've got to look at the ball in the air and try and secure that thing and man I'd fair catch every time just wouldn't even wouldn't even factor the running part into it after after I brought the ball in man all right. Let's but that's why I don't play football. Let's Look Wide Receiver Alshon Jeffery Sean jackson-nelson Accident Nelson Aguilar J._J.. Sega whiteside. I think those four guys are locked in. How many wide receivers do you think they keep? And who do you see on the on the back end of this as well so we know the top four are pretty locked in barring trade which I get to hear a little VIP so often Jeffrey <unk> taxing Nelson idler are easily your top three digit are they await side obviously making the team as a second round pick beyond those four. It's not quite locked in. I would say right now I would project Matt Collins as my Fifth Guy I think you a special teams. Contribution should give him a leg up as making that kind of fifth spot there any still younger and we did see some positive contributions from him back in two thousand seventeen in limited playing time and then that six spot or the fifth spot pending how you WanNa look at it. I don't think it's shocking Gibson like almost as good of a preseason. I felt like as you could have last year and yet the only had one reception in the regular season. I don't know what he could do to win win a spa so you've Charles Johnson in the mixed their marketing Michelle who looked good that the N._F._l.. Guy In spring practices will kind of need to see how he looks in training camp and if he was just you know a guy flashes in the spring then doesn't show up on the pads. Go on so there's kind of like a real battle for that spot we can throw in again Greg Ward in there. The Tompkins undrafted rookie free agent who also has some returnability so there's kind of an interesting battle if you like that kind of thing and consider that kind of thing interesting at the bottom of the roster there but one of the the more bigger things out and talk about at this position. John is the Nelson Lord Trade Possibility. Yes looking at it more than it's just. It's such a weird thing to me that the eagles are really going to go into the season paying this guy nine point four million and I think he's GonNa have a reduced role this year. I really do looking at some of the projections. E._S._p._N.'s Mike Clay did one recently so. Let's say let me set this up for you. So in two thousand eighteen last year Nelson Adler had seven hundred thirty six yards and four touchdowns okay so so in two thousand seventeen he had seven hundred sixty eight yards and eight touchdowns so like you know a pretty significant role right I mean he was the starting slot receiver this year. Mike lays production Adler has thirty six receptions for four hundred ten yards so about three over three hundred yards fewer than the past two seasons and only three touchdowns. That's a drop in production now. Why is that because how are you getting Dallas? Got Her on the field. The that's the question right yeah exactly. You're going to go to more twelve personnel that means you're going less less eleven personnel and are you taking Sean Jackson off the field. I don't think so user deep threat. Are you taking all Sean Jeffrey off the field. I don't think so you're number. One wide receiver so I think Adler is the guy who's kind of the odd man out when you think about that if you're Nelson Igor. I mean how are you feeling about your goal potentially being decreased here as you're entering a contract year. You're going to be ready to after the site so I think that dynamic is still like a little weird to me. I feel like they might just keep back on this nine point four because they're trying to contend mm ten for super bowl and it's not like traffic is going to help them more than nothing Adler would this year but maybe if they could trade him for a player at another position. That could help this year main hike. How is that not on the table? Yeah I would think it should be and you're right because it's one of the things I talked about with my why sneaky concerns a couple of weeks ago was finding enough balls for everybody to be happy making making the offense go when when you've got Galore and you've got you WanNa get got hurt more involved and everybody talks about God or does <hes> as a breakout guy this year of it seems to me we both financially and from a roster standpoint that it makes sense to try and find a suitor in Portugal are too. I would imagine like you said it's a contract year. He probably wants to put as many yards and catches as possible so that'll be definitely something to watch here in training camp <hes> let's look at the tight end Zach Hurts Dallas Goddard obviously one and two I have Josh Perkins as the number three tight end <hes> kind of a guess on my part <hes>. What did they look like in minicamp? Who who do you think had the edge there? Will you are wrong John Unfortunately for Yo com. It's IT'S GONNA be Richard Rogers <hes> he's just having a good camp last year good summer prior to suffering that knee injury that cost him nine games or so last year <hes> he's looking solid as a number three tight end. I mean obviously ideally you do not want him out there at all but like if he asked to fill in for or a game or two on a Lake Trey Burton had step up back in two thousand seventeen when Misa game. I'm not saying Richard. Drivers is Trey Burton. I'm just saying like you. That's a guy who can count on to get you through a game or two there. He's a he's a solid number three tight end who oh you know he's not fast but he can. He's decent hands decent bacher and he's also a good special teams contributor and more most importantly probably the most important factor here John Is. He's the emergency long snapper so Rick Levato so that Kinda helps to absolutely let's look at the offensive line to finish off the offense here and obviously we're. I'm not putting Brandon Brooks among the fifty three man because it seems as though he's almost certainly going to miss the beginning of the season so I have a Jason Peters Isaac Saint Ramallo Jason Kelsey Lane Johnson big the Wiz Dillard and Jordan my Lada as my eight offensive lineman. Who Do you have so I have ten? I'm keeping broke up fifty three. I think between Dickson Kelsey saying that he thinks brooks will be ready Eddie if not for week one like pretty early in the season and then there was a report from Howard Eskin asking this heard that he believes Brooks will be ready pretty early in the season if not week one and he said something like zero doubt which is a loud very bold race <hes> <hes> so yeah. I'm guessing he's not going to be on the list. I don't know if you start to be won by just don't he goes on P._D.. So <hes> I have Jason Peters Isaac Somali Jason Kelsey Brandon Brooks. Maybe not starting leak on policy <hes> Lane Johnson Big v Although you know big V if Brooks is healthy and that he goes really liked the progress they're seeing from both Andre Dillard end towards my Lada win big V who's going to be a free to after this year suddenly becomes expendable especially if you know team as a starting offensive tackle go down so adding the trade is possible but bum keeping him on the roster for now under dillard obviously makes it with obviously makes it easier backup center and a backup on the interior at guard as well and I have Jordan my Lotta making team. I don't think the draft him in spent a year developing him just to cut him a season later. I'll be like you know if he was just like abysmal this summer for some reason. I don't think he will be but if he was like that's how he could potentially get cut. We just showed no development at all and like he showed that he wasn't taking taking things seriously. That's how the kind of and I don't think that's the case. I'm just saying that would be what that looks like and then ten spot. Don't feel like awesome about it. Don't feel like it's set in stone by any means but I'm keeping Matt Pryor around. You'll spend six on last year your he didn't play at all <hes> he didn't see a single snap us on the active for one game week seventeen and he didn't again he did not play at all but I I think deals Kinda envision him in my mind as a future like Alan Barber a guy who can start with guard and tackle these really big guy and he showed some <hes> good potential and training camps to your for kind of struggling in the preseason I think prior could kind of be the top backup guard next year so if they wanNA keep him around and kind of go heavy on the offensive line. I think they could keep him well. Let's move onto the defense after we take a a quick break. We'll give you our our roster predictions for the defensive side of the ball up next here on p._G._N.. Radio this episode is brought to you by Cox With Contour T._v.. From Cox you can find all your favorites all in one place yes it. Does it have the youtube you Bet El what about that net flicker thing net flicks too and although superhero movies come to her has all the latest titles on demand. Oh my grandkids love that big green guy. I prefer the one with the hammer myself okay. I think we're done here now. Get all your favorite apps shows and movies right on contoured TV from Cox and we're back on B._G._N.. Radio so it's just a a week before training camp is <hes> set to begin at the Novacare Complex in Philadelphia. We are giving you are fifty three man roster predictions and look in some of the <hes> looking at some of the training camp battles that could be taking place here <hes> as the team gets ready for the two thousand nineteen season. We did offense before the break. Let's get into into the defense here and let's get into the position that I think you and I both agree probably has the least amount of depth on the roster and that's the defensive end position random Graham Derek Barnett vinny curry three locks to make it. I think Josh Sweat. Would you agree as probably a fourth locked to make the team barring something unforeseen happening in training camp after those four guys <hes> what does the rest of the defensive end position look like for you yes so I would say branding Ram Derek Burnett vinnie hurry or the one hundred percent lots right honestly no. They're not going anywhere. Brennan Graham in Barnet probably your starters which doesn't mean everything on this team because how much they rotate their defensive ends but I think it'll be those two taking the bulk of the defensive end snaps with vinny curry working in their off the bench fairly often and so who so still get a lot of playing time then after that in we'll see like it's not it's not set in stone. Josh Sweat I would say is the front runner right now for that fourth job. Vintage team has some kind of belief in him. You know coming off of this rookie rookie season you know where he was the fourth round pick and has athletic potential. You told me twenty two you can see like the path for your Josh wet and how he could be something to this team but I also feel like an apologies to the Jesuit high out out there. If such a thing as <hes> I can also see the path where like he's nothing like he's does not anything. He doesn't turn into N._F._l.. Player like I don't think people are giving enough weight to that possibility it. Which is why I think myself in you? John and others are kind of worried about that. We don't know Gosh what's going to be anything. He might not be the could be. It's a total unknown it might have been with some potential and then beyond him you have probably cherise Miller final pick of the fourth round. This year sure I would imagine he doesn't really play much at all barring injury you kind of just keep him around the guy that you're developing behind the scenes for so then you have some guys pushing for those fourth slash fit spots on the roster like day Sean Hall who's actually on the team last year and <hes> Joel Stern is obviously around two <hes> so those guys will try to make it competitive in earn job on the roster but yeah I mean I'm not feeling awesome about that. You know that rotation outside of the top three in you know looking back to when the Eagles won the Super Bowl talked about many times in two thousand seventeen you know they went four deep. They they had a lot of depth there they could count on Brandon. Graham Vinny Curry Chris Long End Dirk Burnett ought to play at least like forty five percent of the snaps and give them real playing time. I think this year <hes> the rotation is GonNa look a little bit something more like it did back in almost two thousand sixteen when the eagles were kind of going the relied more on three guys and then they kind of had a four th guy who was only like twenty percent of the snaps as opposed to at least everyone being around like forty five or fifty or so and I guess Joshua would be that kind of twenty percent guy. It's always possible bringing in a veteran here although dark morgan retired so it's GonNa be him. Hannah Barton will still Z.. <unk> again. We talked about why that really doesn't make sense as a football move my opinion so I really don't know who it's going to be in you know again. They suffered injury one of those top three guys so all of a sudden Josh wet is one of your top three. I don't love that and I don't have to make a trade that they're going to have to find it to do something that I think at that point they would bring Connor Barth back now that that would solve anything but I think the point I'm assuming he sought there. Yes so I just I don't feel great about it. You know <unk> Jackson in theory could take some of these reps at defensive end in China can shoot there as well as position. He's played for three defensive end in addition to defensive tackle at something that people have talked about. Maybe that's possible that I I didn't see him doing that at all in the spring that doesn't mean he can't do it when on the season rolls around but it's dislike. I don't really think that's like a huge plan on the radar right now so yeah it's it's not a spot that I feel as good as I want to see you think they go with five on the active roster or four. I think it's at least five okay yeah I had six initially on mine but I didn't have as many offensive Lineman as you did so I <hes> trying to work out the math but I have six I had sweat Oestmann and Miller as my six but that's simply because I'm not I'm not sure sure what we have with Sweat Osmond or Miller so trying to hedge my bets and <hes> and keep as many of those guys around as I can because if you are going to run a rotation that such an important position <hes> to Jim Swartz they seem to be much stronger defensive tackle this year the. The hope is that you don't need to be quite deep all at defensive end because you have Fletcher Cox. You have me Jackson Timmy Jernigan. You have Trayvon Hester those those your four top guys and I have Hassan Ridgway as a fifth defensive tackle making this team. Has that too many like if you're keeping six defensive ends is is five tackles too many for this team I am five but I may have five and STU so ten total defensive line. I've okay hidden total often environment intend to little defensive. Lineman doesn't seem crazy to me just because you know you will happen to value the trenches Yom but yeah I think Jackson are your starters at defensive tackle to journey in hopefully known as healthy. He's he's back because as I was talking about with Ben Celek on between radio episode sixty two or whenever it was last sixty to you actually see to <hes> reason why we're excited about the season I mean that that trio right there is assuming Jackson bounces back from his struggles. Assuming Jernigan is healthy so you know it's not guaranteed. There's some things have to happen there. If it all comes together <hes> I think that could not really good trio and then you have trayvon Hester who I thought was a pretty decent rotational backup player last year he can use your fourth guy and then maybe ridgway makes it as a fifth guy will see. That's something that will. I'm sure we'll see play out in training camp. If you deserve that spot or not ah but yeah I think for as much as I feel a little bit uneasy about -fensive end no defensive tackle film pretty good about that group one of the positions I'm really intrigued with his linebacker and this is obviously a position where the eagles play just two linebackers a lot of the time they're in. They're in nickel for a a large number of large percentage snaps during the course of any game but I was definitely worried about the linebacker depth heading into the off season and I don't think there's a star on this team at linebacker but they seem to have improved the depth although I don't know how they find enough space for all the guys has that they have here so there's Nigel batum. There's Collingridge Hill. There's eljay Ford Zac Brown Nick Gary. That's five guys there. That seems like a lot of linebackers for teen. That's only gonNA really ever have to on the field at one time. Is that too many. Is there a number crunch there and if so who's the odd man out I think five in part just because you know those guys are going to be logging. A lot of special teams reps the backend guys yeah so I think Nigel batum obviously is probably going to be your linebacker plays the most out of everyone assuming healthy you mentioned anchin John that the US to linebackers mostly and that's true but sometimes they really liked. Tell me use one and I I think Brandon will be that guy in that case the exact round who had like interested the sea now how he fits into this roster again. I'm not like like <hes> one hundred percent convinced yet like he could eat going to be the guy who gets the second most amount of reps or snaps at linebacker in part because accused running with the second team in spring drills. Maybe that bears out differently in the summer and he steps up <hes> easily. She could no again watching this guy when he he would play with Washington he would always stand out to me in a really good way. So maybe we see some more of that. I think basically thinking about it. More I feel exact Brown is kind of Michael Hendricks. I forget if we've talked about that but I feel like that's kind of a good comparison. Really talented athletically makes those splash plays but isn't always a favor of coaching staff because he doesn't really call the defense and he kind of isn't the most assignment sound player you might be freelancing a little all too much <hes> so that's kind of a comparison that in thinking about for him I think could potentially take another step forward after he kinda did last year. Although I guess right now kind of project him to be more of the weakside linebacker third most snaps of the guys who actually play out in the field <hes> Nate Gary. He's GonNa make the team by backer coach. Ken Delay is really talking him up the spring exceptionally so so I think he's making the team Eljay Fort Man. I don't know if he makes the team. That's one of those wow now i. I currently have him on to be clear. I'm just saying like if you're keeping him. You're losing that fourth round. Pick potentially that the common Satori pick that you would get and obviously Sunday hill is in that equation to and we will get him later in a little bit here so I have a hard time. I'm thinking they're going to cut for it because the Eagles said back in March that he was a quote unquote target free agent for them. Yes signed him early yeah he also you know I think he's going to be a key contributor on special teams but at the same time thinking about it more I thought thought like okay I'm Jay Ford had reportedly like multiple suitors after him which is part of the Eagles signed him early. That's believable. Why why would they be in a rush? If they an through other offers out there and why would they give him one point nine million guaranteed so my thinking is that you know if it comes down to later in the summer and the team kind of looking for linebacker depth or help out there. Maybe they lose a starter in. They need someone if you trade for for even just the minimum compensation you could get which is basically at twenty twenty seventh round pick. It would really be trading him for fourth ascent began compensatory. Is that a trade you know you would make backup linebacker for our fourth and seventh and in addition to that he goes would also save one point eleven million and cap space so you'd be saving some caps as you'd be getting a fourth and a seventh Rebecca P- linebacker these trading John I would and I guess it all comes down to what you think of Zac Brown at that point because it feels to me like the Eagles Guts Act Brown simply because he was there like it was an opportunity by you know it wasn't the Eljay fort felt like someone they targeted. ZAC Brown felt like someone hey. This guy's still here he. He's willing to come play on a on a small deal. Let's go out and make it happen and you just get ourselves some more depth at linebacker but you know given everything you just said. If ZAC DOC Brown plays well in in in training camp you what you say makes a lot of sense I just I they really did target for it I think I think that they saw something in him. You know where they talked right after they. They signed him as a potential start at middle linebacker backer didn't they. I mean that was part of the conversation. Is You know maybe he could be that guy because I don't think I mean is Nigel Br Adam guaranteed the middle linebacker spot. I think that's all I think a lot of those positions are up for grabs. I think we'll start in the middle just because he has the experience calling the defense he obviously did it. When Hicks was out these past two years and I think shorts really likes pat him but yeah it'll be interesting to see who's on the back end of the spots? I don't even think we mentioned Paulo like he could potentially be in the mix. <hes> today Edwards was is looking good drafted rookie free agent and spring about him think he'll probably make the practice squad if he makes it through waivers but I mean he could push for the roster like that'll be a not super exciting battle to watch because again that player probably won't even play much on defense but it's kind of one of those of your you know you're following along with fifty three trying to make your own projection. That'll be one of the more tougher spots to figure out unless we we see guys step up in camp in summer. Let's get into the position where I think there is going to be <hes> the most interesting battle for for starting shooting positions and that's a cornerback you've got jalen Mills Ronald Darby avantis Matic's Russell Douglas Sidney Jones curve on the block six guys all in the mix for playing time. I don't know how they're going to find playing time for all these different guys you mentioned Nelson Galarza Trade candidate big visa trade candidate. I know one. The cornerbacks is obviously probably GONNA come up in trade conversations during training camp or the early part of the season too. I WOULD THINK B L G do they go with six corners. Are Those six guys so right now. I kind of cheating live at five on the roster but let me explain. I'm not convinced that deal mills is going to be ready early. In the season. I think back to what I've been talking about all offseason with that thing about David garrow talking about he doesn't even know deal mill is going to be ready. I think back to the fact that deal Nilsson's pretty invisible during spring practice like he didn't practice at all but he wasn't even on the sideline except for maybe one practice I remember him at so. He just seemed like outta sight outta mind that we don't know where he is in terms of his recovery as opposed to like Ronald Darby who's doing individual the drills and kind of warming up with the team. I would think he's closer to returning deal mills for right now. I'm keeping deal meals on the P._C._p.. Louis so I'm saying he's out for the first six weeks. He's in at the very least and I think that might be a smart move by the eagles does he kinda gives him extra time and it allows the other guys in the meantime to kind of to show what they've gotten what you have in them now. I don't think that's a move that film is a love because again. He's going to be freed after this season so that's kind of you know another another interesting dynamic to watch for the s for the five that I have on the roster here Ronald Darby who is going to be your starter. I mean that's not that's not a debate like right. He's talented guy and they signed him to a point five million dollar contract like right to bring him back they did. They didn't do that so he could sit. The dense maddox is just too good to not be on the field to me in some capacity. Whether that's I'm guessing he's going to be your primary nickel guy but like you know if you're not playing nickel and you have two quarterbacks on the field. I feel like he should be out there at least some of the time he's really really good in my opinion from what I've seen from him. I think he's taken another leap from layer was last year just what I saw on spring now. That's you know small sample size by I. I really feel good about Devante. <hes> Douglas also feeling good about him. I think he's probably a starting if he starting if mills end or Darby aren't ready wreak one in also potentially if they're not really gonNA maddox fulltime job on the outside it could be him starting nest opposite of Ronald Darby deal mills missing time this was resolved. I think the third year now I think he's showing good signs of being ready for starting. I really like what I've seen a renewal so where does that leave Sidney Jones on this list it puts what's in fourth man. I want to read you John. Here's something that day Sparrow wrote about Sidney Jones in his post on Philadelphia Eagles Dot Com titled Five intriguing players to watch in two thousand eighteen training camp at what is Sidney Jones. We're GONNA find out because. Joneses squarely in the thick of an extremely interesting cornerback picture who's on to give a little bit was background says has nothing guaranteed is going to be a starter. Is he going to be a backup. Does he make the roster now like hello like are we not not to me. I look at that in Spiro. It doesn't mean everything Ryan than even says to be fairly. Maybe that's a bit of a reach but like the fact that we're even asking that question is Sidney Jones GonNa make the roster and I think the answer is yes but like it's not great. There's a disconnect Sunni tones to me John in the sense of like I really liked him coming into the draft before he got hurt once he got hurt. I was a little more skeptical of the rear projection because that injury and the history of drafting injured players has been great. There are awesome exceptions. You can point to Jalen Smith and someone in the comments this week at B._G._N.. was like Oh you're so harsh on Sidney Jones biaggi thinking about Jalen Smith and okay. Maybe Syndrome steps up this year but I don't see it like where's He. Who's he playing over? Should he be playing over Monte automatic. I don't think so L. Avantis look good and even result like I've seen more out of advantage in Rassoul than I have Sidney Jones for these like pass ever since last year basically when they were all planning on made more plays than Sydney has yeah that's true too and I'm you know I'm not GonNa Cut Jones just to keep Leblanc right <hes> but yeah I agree and I have a bunk on the roster twos my fifth winner but yeah I just I think people want Sidney Jones to be a thing and I wants needs to be a thing. I'm not rooting against the guy but I'm saying I think people are projecting too much when it comes to Sidney Jones like they're they see the package like he's only twenty two years this potential Bubba and they might be right and I might end up looking stupid for it but like right now. I don't think you just hand in the starting to highlight. That's not where it should be at like to me. It should be whoever is playing well. It's the starting job we're not going to hand it to Sidney Jones because he was a second round pick and he has like potential in theory. No he has to earn it and I don't. He's earned it yet so I think it'll be on the roster and I think it's Jones could a really important piece for this team next year because he's going to be free agent after this year and so as Dale Mills so Sidney Jones potentially be starter as soon as next year and be like you know unimportant piece for this team but two thousand nineteen I still see John. I guess that's I guess sets a reason to hope that he gets a few more snaps. <hes> this therapy is going to potentially be a starter in two thousand twenty but obviously this team is super bowl or bust this year and you're not gonNA play him over the guys who are playing better than him for sure. He's very frustrating player. Wish really would be interesting to see what would have happened if he hadn't gotten her right before rep for the draft although the eagles probably wouldn't have gotten him if that had happened anyway so let's look at the safety position here bill. We're just about done with the Defense Malcolm Jenkins <hes> is obviously <hes> is obviously going to be on the opening day roster here. You've got Roddy McLeod. Hopefully he's going to be healthy enough to go and then you know some of the questions with third and fourth safety you know if you've got Anderson Day who also has the compensate Tori pick fourth round thing going on with him as well and Trae Sullivan and some some other guys hi sue could potentially be your third or fourth safeties. How many do you see the team carrying and who'd he got so Malcolm? Jenkins is going to be on the team. Obviously hopefully I'm hoping you know the eagles workout. His contract situation is still no still in the air still nothing on that front. I could change. Maybe as camp gets even closer here the next week we'll see on a wait and see on that one I run in the cloud seems to be optimistic that he'll be ready for week. One that seems like a reasonable projection considering he only got hurt and September last year and now as opposed to late in the season and he also was participating in some of the Rehab stuff US warming up with the team in spring drills so it seems like he's kind of making good progress there. I mean if those guys are healthy and they're all good like them pretty good about that. As a starting safety the duo I am a little bit worried about math Jenkins as a guy who's averaged a thousand snaps preseason basically over his ten years of his career. He's entering his eleventh. I just wonder when that wear and tear is going to start the show with him. I would not bet against Malcolm Jenkins does he. He is a total pro who takes care of his body. You know saw like kind of that's why I am not super panicked about it but it's just like something in my mind and I also wonder you know how close to one hundred percent is running out. I'm going to be coming off this A._C._l.. Injury he obviously has a lot of motivation into play wealth as well as a number other players easily be free to after the year but yeah so after those two starters you're looking at Anderson Day. Who I think is more of a lock to make the team now like I thought he looked decent? Spring drills US taking all the first team reps even when Malcolm Jenkins came back you know who's Jenkins replace Sullivan Lineup and it was Sunday Ho who is still in the starting lineup so that shows you know he's clearly in the third safety on the depth chart. I I see him making the team especially in part two because if running cloud is ninety percent you we want to have someone to lean on their <hes> veteran and it could be Sunday Ho and looking at it more John. I also found something out about injury Sunday Ho he gets reputation as a Bach safety fifty but looking at a snap count. That's not what he is. He's a free safety letting it just like Ronnie. McLeod is <hes> Malcolm. Jenkins is more of the box safety on this team. Rodney McLeod is your free safety when he starting <hes> and then I think that really is why by the will signed into Sunday because as a guy who can play free safety kind of fits more on that Corey Graham Roll getting your direct replacement there so I think Sunday hope makes it as your third safety in that I think played countess is your fourth guy. He was the first team punt on protector illegals made an effort to get him back after the rams cut him he's GonNa be. He's GonNa be Your News Chris. Maragos Mackie's might play a few defensive snappy has to but more so it's going to be a special team sky though the last thing I'll add on the Sunday. Ho note is that kind of the same boat I guess as Eljay forty you could trade in Houston Daeho and you would actually save. I think like one about one million dollars in cap space okay and again even if you're just getting a seventh for him it's really like you're getting a fourth and seventh for him in the disrupting that cap space so you don't WanNa do that obviously if you're not feeling great about your safety debts you can only do that if countesses looking good entry Sullivan's good or maybe the Andre Hall or whatever I think for now Sunday Hall makes the team and of course Punter Cameron Johnson Kicker Jake Elliott and long snapper Nevada with round out the fifty three man roster so obviously again if a team loaded with talent this is a this should be a fun up on training camp again. There's not going to be a lot of star positions up for grabs but some positions nations to watch and some potential transactions to watch out for <hes> this <hes> the summer as the Eagles get ready to come back to the novacare complex next weekend. Get ready for training camp <hes> when we come back we're going to give you just some real quick bold predictions for the two thousand in nineteen season <hes>. I've a few for me and a few from B.. L. G. and we'll do that next right here on B._G._N.. Radio Hi I'm avery truffle men and I'm the host of Nice try a podcast about utopia utopia a place that is perfect and does not exist this season were traveling across time and space to explore seven different attempts to design a better world. What happens when those designs don't go? 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I'm GonNa have a piece out for bleeding green nation dot com at some point either Friday or Saturday with some some of my bold predictions. I'll have a few more on their. I'm doing ten bold predictions on the season but I'll just give you a handful of mine and G. We'll give you three of his as well. <hes> I'll start off and I'm going to a bold prediction mostly. It's bold predictions for me. They're all optimistic. They're kind of pie in the sky bold predictions and I do this. I do this every year for the good fight. The phillies espy nation blog that I write for and usually only one of my ten bold predictions will ever come true. I think that's been my track record like one. A year actually makes it because they're usually all ridiculously optimistic in pie in the sky so that's just kind of that's kind of how these things go so I'm going to go on a limb and say Derrick. Barnett earns a pro bowl selection in two thousand nineteen B L G. I I liked liked what I saw from him at the start of last year I you know he's got the first round pedigree. He's GonNa Start if he stays healthy I think he can be I think he can be attended twelve sack guy and if that's the case I think he makes the proble I would love to see <hes> <hes> my confidence level is not super high and that's not even mean being down there. It's hard to make really bold. Brennan Graham has made it you know and he's pretty good player so for me on the offense. It's it's a little bit of a statistical predation here. I WANNA say J._J.. Arteaga whiteside has more touchdowns than Nelson Angler this year. Wow that's a good one and that's kind of I don. I'm not it's not cheating. It's kind of not the boldest I guess just because. The way I look at it I look at it as if no he's going to be getting some decent red zone playing time and I thank you know as red zone specialist and I think just his jump all ability he's going to be able to kind of he might have like a weird stat line the season so I'm trying to say like you might only have on oh say eighteen whatever catches but he might have like six touchdowns because he's good in the red zone and you know I'm kind of hedging here or not hedging bum kind of also I'm considering Adler could be traded and if he is that would probably really help my prediction here for some say. Did you say wait not more playing time than I'll say Lord but I think he will moore who has more touchdowns or Sega whiteside or got it got it got it. Okay got it's GonNa see more snaps but <hes> both are big red zone targets <hes> it'd be interesting to see <hes> another bold prediction for me. This one's not so optimistic. I think Andre Dillard makes at least four starts this year for the Eagles and there's a couple of different ways this can happen one obviously obviously they trade big V and Jason Peters goes down is it. It's not unreasonable to think Jason Peters could miss a month of action for some kind of injury this year thirty seven years old he had to you know he started every game last year but had to come out of just about every game that he was in you now. I think Jason Peters can be a very effective player this year. I think he'll have an effective year but it wouldn't surprise me at all. If you know for part of October November or two games here a game here game there Jason Peters is not in the starting lineup and an Andre Dillard if he's if he does well in training camp and is looking good practice maybe they maybe they use him. As the starting left tackle that would be you know something would have to go wrong either with Brandon Brooks or with were big getting traded or something like that in order for that to happen but I'll say Andre Dre dillard makes at least four starts here in his rookie season. I I mean Jason. Peters did start all sixteen games last year which seems like crazy when you think about it right without a lot but he definitely he's GonNa miss some time at some point probably not unreasonable. My conviction here is not so optimistic for him and I kind of already teased a little bit went into it pretty hard actually Sidney Jones. I'm going to say I have written down here that Sidney Jones doesn't play <hes> now. I'M NOT GONNA say it doesn't play at all because that's a little extreme could be injuries injuries and whatnot but like the gist is he's not going to get a ton of playing time. He's not GonNa be starter are at least a full time starter by any means thinking about it this way John. Do you feel like you have to get onto mannix on the field yes. Do you feel you have to use any John's on the field no yeah I think that's like that's how West where I'm at with that and it's not just those two players in the equation. Obviously there's a lot of moving parts there but you know assuming darby can come back and stay healthy man. Sorry I guess Joneses kind of like the fourth quarterback on the step chart or around. There and I don't really see him pointing. What's this year now? That's fair totally understand that I mean he's got a he's. He's gotTa have a good training camp man. He's he's got a flash in training camp in order in order for him to rise above some of those guys for sure my last stop bold prediction for the podcast and again all ten <hes> for the piece that I'm writing for a bleeding green nation is <hes> the eagles go undefeated in the N._F._C. East B L J. I think they sweep the giants and Redskins. I don't think that's a bold prediction but <hes> I think you know last last year. The cowboys swept the Eagles and I think the eagles get their revenge this season on a cowboys team where you know Ezekiel Elliott there have been reports. He's quietly talking about holding out of training camp because he wants a new deal still waiting on whether or not they're going to give Dak Prescott got a new deal. That hasn't happened yet. There's a lot of things going on with Dallas and you know a Dallas defense is very good and they figured out a way to kind of shut down the eagles offense last year but I think eagles offenses much much better. I know it's very very rare for an N._F._C.. East team to go undefeated undefeated in the division but you know this might be a special eagles team this year and I think they go undefeated in the N._F._C. East on lasted. Just you know the only way that this I didn't get sidetracked as if there's a a game at the end of the season where the eagles arresting all their starters and they don't need anybody see that <hes> they maybe lose a game like that like in two thousand seventeen when they arrested everybody against the cowboys lost six nothing yeah I mean I always like in my mind. I'm pretty sure I convince myself of this every year this year. It doesn't even matter how bad they are just because the other teams aren't really good. I think they'd be Dallas twice this year which is key to me I really do. I really believe that I think they're you know they're going to feel bad about what happened. Last year and President Has Dallas figured out the eagles. The Eagles can stop themselves in many respects mandate. They've probably figured that out so I like the producer John <hes> for my last one here three I will say Carson. Wentz doesn't miss a single game this year due to injury yes. I had that same prediction B.. L. GonNa Yeah I love that that's one of the ones I had ready to go for the website absolutely great one due to injury again over yeah. We're not counting if you know week seventeen and he sits out 'cause they already have something locked up just talking about just injury. He did it before by the way this isn't impossible people. This is like an impossible feat that he did as a rookie he played all sixteen. It's any even in two thousand seventeen. He played like most of the season he missed three games like twenty not like impossible that he could do this like people people treated that way and I'm just I'm looking forward to to the conversation conversation like once that happens if you just makes it through this season healthy. Are we still going to be talking the whole offseason the next week next offseason in the future of only karston Wednesdays healthy only no probably not much <hes> so I would love for that to happen obviously clean and I think it will. I just that's my mindset going into the season as I was talking about with Ben last year like why am I just going to assume that arseny get hurt like why he might not he might. I don't know like no one has any kind of read on that like that. You're just guessing entirely early like Yep. That's just a total guess you can try to argue if you don't like Carson Wentz that you know he plays recklessly or whenever but like I just think that's man I look at Decorah Scott and he runs around a lot like he's not like always just you know taking like being smart with the ball and Lanky he takes hits. He runs out into the open field <hes>. I don't think Carson Wentz is especially reckless to the point. Where like I? It's impossible that he could play sixteen games so now Damon Allen Say Carson Wentz Play Sixteen Games while up let me rephrase again doesn't miss the game due to injury and I think he's GonNa have a great season so that's where I'm at I mean the the injury in two thousand seventeen was was bad. Luck and I have no idea if some of the back issues he was dealing with was because of the compensation sation for his leg or if he got hurt because we still don't know exactly how that all went down so I think it's a great pick that was one of the ones that I had written out and that'll be up. I'll have that post for you. Probably by the time you you hear this podcast I bleed relation dot com and listen give us is your bold predictions for the eagles season on twitter. You can tweet at B._G._N.. Radio you can tweet it be l._G.. That's at branch out and you can tweet at me. John Stolnis Hashtag B._G._N.. Bold predictions I will send out a tweet to also kind of get you get going going on that one but <hes> Hashtag B._G.. Predictions let's hear your bold predictions for the two thousand nineteen season as well be L._G.. Any final thoughts before we wrap up the final podcast before training camp man. That sounds good. John Sounds like a good thing that you decided. We've training camp right around the corner. Football will be starting to really get back into the swing of things I mean some teams have already reported for training camp in terms of like the little rookie camp they do. The Eagles really don't do that anymore. At least haven't the past two years so training camp is going to be back here here again as John said you can get in on the conversation with the bold predictions with Hashtag B._G._N.. Bold predictions were tweet some of those from the B._G._N.. Radio Account to make sure you get those out there refund to see what you can come up with the ear <hes> yeah man so football all starting soon. That's awesome as always make sure you keep reading bleeding green dot com 'cause we will have a ton of training camp coverage also podcast here on E._S._p._N.. Radio and the bleeding green nation podcast feeds make sure you are subscribed to the feeds. You don't miss an episode. Make sure you write the podcast five stars and leave a review two so we really appreciate if you could do that as you'll season is quickly approaching and should be a fun one absolutely i. I really feel like this could be a special football season. I and I know a vast majority of the city and Eagles fans feel the same way so we will be here for you. Throughout the two thousand nineteen season it should be a whole lot of fun and training camp gets underway about a week from now less than a week from now I think as we're recording this so <hes> <hes> very exciting times and of course will be there to be our our is on the scene and gives us all his thoughts on everything that's happening down at Eagles training camp and kids. That'll do it for this edition of B._G._N.. Radio episode number sixty three again follow B l g the on twitter at Brandon Gotten and you can follow me on twitter at John Stolis. Thanks everybody for tuning in. We'll talk to you all next time right here on B._G._N.. Radio doesn't make sense hi. 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"UFC Two fifty kicks off this Saturday and draftkings the leader in one day. Fantasy sports is giving you a free shot at a one million dollar top prize with your first deposit. It's easy to play and for a limited time draft kings is offering both new and existing users a deposit bonus up to five hundred dollars. Download the draft kings at now and. And Use Promo Code. SP nation to get a free shot at the one million dollar top prize with your first deposit that's Promo Code. SBA Nation to get a free shot at one million dollars with your first deposit, only at draftkings minimum five dollar deposit required deposit bonus requires a twenty five times playthrough eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. Michael Kissed Economy Not Listening Again Benjamin so land. It's the kissed in Seoul action presented mine as be nation and bleeding great nation. You are flying high on the kissed and SOLEX. Show brought to you by the bud at SP, nation and bleeding, green nation and welcome to the second installment of our best of compilation. I am your host. Michael Kissed Probably. Don't follow me on twitter right now at Michael Kissed. NFL says there's more important things than football happening in the world today, and that's what I intend to be rambling about these days instead stay would be here if you want to take a breath from the news, because in this best of the kissed and SOLEX show recaps regarding to go back in time week five through week, eight of the two thousand nineteen NFL season for the Eagles and reliving the. The takes the breakdowns. The reactions all of that from the Cayenne s reaction shows that we do every week and if you haven't yet I, would strongly recommend that you go back to the first installment of this series just dropped at the in the last week. I definitely did a better job setting it up there unless you're the being out of order and just one quick note before we get back at it then was unavailable for the week six recap, so brain league ouden filled in which is why you get some sweet sweet. A BEAL G on this go round of a compilation all right. Two Thousand Nineteen Eagles. Best of the recap shows weeks five through eight starting now. Week Five Philadelphia thirty one. New York jets six. Let's talk about this game. Brother I mean. We came into this thing knowing that it wasn't going to be closed. We're already recording. It's midway through the fourth quarter. The Eagles just racked up thirty ninth sack on the day, which is the ultimate regression to the mean. After some early struggles this season natural, we can take away from it right now. The Eagles are up thirty one to six taking care of business. How you doing brother nine sacks. Today was a lot man. Everything is delicious. I will say that when Brandon Graham ends the season with five and a half sacks, six and a half sacks. It's GonNa. Look okay. You looked at after member literally three of them hearing as the jets here so I mean he started out today on the first drive with the sack with the Eagles, did they win? Three defensive lines center to the left, and Graham got matched up one on one with winters with no help and beat them right there, so yeah, I mean we're definitely gonNA. GonNa. See some regression to the mean. Eagles killer, Vincent Smith with an end around touchdown in nineteen yard touchdown to kind of pull. This game sort of a little bit is the point where we could see a an eagle as other things before the I remember remember. He's the Limestone College kid that ran in the fourth threes Mike Mike Fury. Former Lions receiver was his college coach. He was on the Texans. He Burns soul last year late in the game. Remember Yeah Yeah Not at all. If I. YOU'RE GONNA. Ask Me if I was ready for something else, and if if it was what you were going to send, you have a written statement prepared that I'd like to read. Okay, so tell us about Nick Gary. How did you know? Come on brother. From the desk of Benjamin and so lack October six. Twenty nineteen in my capacity as the deputy editor for lingering nation on air talent BGN radio I've been open publicly critical of the performance of third year. Philadelphia Eagles Linebacker Need Gary was a sixth round pick in the two thousand seventeen. NFL draft parentheses actually he might have been fifth round pick. I can't remember but i. don't feel Google close parentheses. Over the course of the twenty nine hundred Nate Gary, a significant playing time due to injuries in front of him at the linebacker position proceeds. It's important to note. This is not because he's been playing well. It's been because of injuries close proxies. Subsequently Nate Gary has had two key interceptions in Philadelphia. Eagles Games as well as a couple of very laughable plays against play action period. Anytime that Gary makes good play I get added on twitter and I would like to give a public statement to this point may Gary is still bad a football. Fan I almost fallen off thing at the half. May Gary still bad football. He's good place com. I'll give him that, but he's made against Luke Falk in a broken Matt Ryan has oatmeal for brains. The Eagles do not want make gary taking significant reps, unless continues to the most inexplicable ball magnet in the NFL. I take back nothing unless Gary. Here's this in which case Whitesnake I take back everything. coarsely. Veterans all heck. I think you wanted to see more from the offense. Overall the drives ended in a weird way in a couple of places, and during the middle portions of the game when they were really slow, they had some early penalties that put them in disadvantageous down and distance situations still I. think Overall the execution in the first half was not all that good, obviously those penalties coming in different situations for different reasons, but I know one was supposed expect brooks to pick up the blockers. So when he went low and a high low situations that got called for a cop block. It just seemed kind of sloppy on the San. Mateo Not Brooks. Ball excuse me the left. Would you think of the offensive performance throughout this game because I think they have some things on the table, right? Yeah, they played better against Green Bay and the Mike Patton Defense, which had talent all three levels that we lauded as opposed to against a jets defense corner by Greg Williams that was lacking for talent at multiple levels that we kind of disparage. They ran the ball ton which brings me to my one major takeaway on the offense you know. Know, put on Tinfoil hat. Here is Doug Peterson trying to conceal early down tendencies by just running on first down as much as possible. Because this game I think he was. They ran on almost every single. I down the only I down first and ten, the open drive that I can remember them. Not Running on was the one after the jets scored ran play action picked up a free thirteen yards towels on Jeffrey Aslan like as easy as Brennan Bladder. It's very curious to me. 'cause we things that we know one Peterson and the coaching staff make decisions with the input of forecasting models with input of analytic models that project you know expect. The points added per play and with the best game script. Sort of thing is okay, so we know that boom we also now. Peterson has previously been very pass heavy on early downs. He's willing to throw the ball on first and ten this year. Despite the fact, that factor an factor be have not changed their running ball ton on I in Tampa, and I just wonder if the goal here in the. The, first six seven weeks, eight weeks of the season is to really present a strong. Hey, we run the ball on first and ten a lot number, so that later in the season again throw it and work our games from past Games, which is not an unheard of thing and I. Don't think they're like willing to lose for it, but I think that that the eagles are very willing to look like a more bound run, pass balanced team early in the season, so as to break that balance potentially later on top of the the frequency of the running, the eagles came out with those. Pin poll box sweeps double traps. We had check calls and a lot of moving parts on these running concepts, which felt very much to me like. Hey, it'd be nice if we could do this in a real game. Let's see if we can't see if we can get the checks crack because if this goes for zero yards. It's going to be okay and we have it on film now. We can see what would work against these different types of fronts. Fails sack for eight yards by Derek Barnett ten six of the day the set they have six alignment with a sack, right ridgway curry. Fox Barnett Sweat Graham third, and then scandal has two more ten sacks. Thanks Mike I have a question. Is that good yeah. All of the numbers by the Eagles struggling to sack are now going to be like astronomically through the roof, and it's also going to be a complete line is gonna look like never had numbers right back. Numbers were lying to you when they were bad. And now they're also GONNA be lying to you. This is why everything requires context. Did you kid not just look at a number? Because both numbers I believe were wrong. What about anything that Adam Gates does make sense, but that's what I'm saying. Yeah like it's not even like on the scale of Adam Gates. Weirdness going for a field goal down to scores, fourth and four from the Philadelphia Eagles thirty seven barely registers as low as a one Sam Donald traffic with the one. What are you doing trying to kill you kidding? Yeah, that's same rice. The doctors had to same Sam Darnold from Adam Gaze. That's a problem, but yeah offense wentz look fine. Looked fine running backs. You know Howard so looks good. Santa's was inconsistent has nice slashes. I said that Rodney McLeod has been one of the most consistent, if not the most consistent defender for the Eagles this year, disagree to it I would say no, but Ryan the top again, not from giants also played out of his mind, frigging on ending from ridgway. Would we remain like inconsistent? He's inconsistently. Go is my thing is like he has flash plays is bad plays right, and obviously ideally you'd like that to somewhere level out in the middle these. No, you're getting out of him, but he remains. Interesting more so than found pick would have been foreshore so I feel very good for making fun of literally everyone that tried to call this a trap game, not only on twitter, but also in the BGN comments on some of my articles, we apparently do not have the type of power that people thought we did. Our confidence did not cause. Attract game so here we are. Eagles moved to three and took. Part of the Chinese. You can't. The team here's the team is not care. We have that kind of divine power and we did. You should show some respect. They can't play against the the The Vikings they played against the correct. Eagles have a winning record three and two. We will catch you later this week. We all we got. I'm sorry. I just got totally thrown off because the steelers won a coin toss in overtime. and they deferred. Baltimore. We all we got. We, all we need. US Week six Minnesota Thirty Eight Philadelphia Twenty. Welcome into BGN radio episode. Eighty five espy nation with your nation I am Michael Kissed in place of Tim. Against Guy Guess would be would be the case. Benjamin SOLLAC has been fired for the performance by the Eagles in their thirty eight to twenty loss to the Minnesota Vikings so instead I'm going to be joined by branly gotten brandon. This was a mess of a mess of a mess of a blowout loss. How you doing brother Mike I am doing well in the sense that I am glad I am here with you to rant about things I'm not happy about. This game that are very frustrating. Let's just get right into it because I am ready to. I have a lot of thoughts yet. Cousins goes over three hundred yards. You can put on Jim Schwartz. The four touchdowns. The coverage was sloppy. The defense was bad. This vikings offense was exactly what we expected it to be. And Jim Schwartz still cropped against them Doug Peterson has one of the weirdest decisions of his tenure here in Philadelphia, I've never criticized him for four thousand decision before like to the extent that I'm. I'm about to for this decision to try to fake a few fuel with Jake. Elliott said of just leaving wentz out there. If you wanted to run a play and get out of bounds and gopher, an extra shot that was really confusing. Just overall, there was nothing redeeming about this game for the Eagles in my opinion, Carson Wentz Fr- from what I saw played his butt off an each game. We tend to have this game where one of the one of the eagles players is having the worst game. Game of their life and he's not getting any help. This team right now is bad. This was a bad performance. Three and three and they're playing like an. It couldn't have been any uglier for him. Today Mike. The Eagles failed the Kurt cousins litmus test. That's what it is. They really did. Though seriously. Aside they kirk cousins beats up on that teams are cousins. BEAT UP ON? The Eagles are go. The Eagles are not a very good team in first of all can i. just say screw us? US Akram like really man. You'RE GONNA say that crap before the game who we want. The bunker cousins has yet great. He wasn't his hands today and you looked like like you look foolish. You didn't do anything out there. Yourself and they've got ripped to shreds like great job. Man Like the Eagles lose because he made those comments like they weren't necessary at all, and they didn't even really oh up to after the game like he didn't want to talk about it. I'm sure he didn't. Doug Peterson Doug. WH- what are we doing, man? Is You have zero timeouts. If you want to go forward, and you want to set yourself up for another shot at the end zone or whatever the case is, you're probably better off doing that with Carson Wentz than your Jake Elliott. Then you're also depending on like Dallas to get out of bounds which okay. What if he doesn't what happens then than Jake Elliott has to what spike the ball like I understand like I. Get going forward because of the percentages the way they did. It was just extremely confusing like I just none. None of it made sense to me. And usually there's at least an angle you can take with these Peterson decisions that makes sense and a lot of times. People will say well. Would you criticize him for him? If you know if it worked out? Yeah, absolutely I still weight and I still defend him. When plays a fourth down? Conversions don't work because they're the right decision. A lot of cases this one I just absolute. Don't agree with I mean first quarter. They came out. They ray was run run run. He had one never. That think about crazy again. They're paying one hundred twenty eight million dollars. You don't even give him the ball and. Order other questionable down citizens in the scheme from like not being aggressive, a tweet out are about the surrender index they decided he goes inside the pont from the writings, eight and four nine with thirteen o six from any in the fourth quarter, the ranks that the ninety four th percentile of cowardly punts of the two thousand nineteen season in the ninety first percentile of all. All Hunt since two thousand nine. Like what does my giving this like? Why does he have to be? Here is really helping I. Don't think evidence that that's the case and I just saw a quote from Mike Zimmer said he mentioned inverted coverages from the Eagles in previous games. The Eagles got this is the inverted cover to that me and Benjamin Solich are always railing against where. where it just doesn't work for the Eagles, it hasn't worked for since the titans game last year when they started running, and they end up, I mean they have a whole burn unit first round pick Andre Dillard tough task going in for Jason Peters today his. He's got to work on his anchor. I think that's very abundantly clear. After this game seeing him try to handle like Everson. Everson Griffen in the light JJ Arthur. Whiteside isn't giving us anything right now. As high on him, Mile Sanders is doing wonderful things in the passing game, but he's also gone for. What like I WANNA? Say just over twenty yards in his past twelve, or so carries the last time I checked. Well Joe Douglas's gone, so how he you know. It's GonNa be fixed now. I'm sure. I like how he's in the past. The Buck Athlete you're GONNA see a league at some point likely Sidney Jones Jj yard outside work dough devastate. No one is asking for that from Deir. Thinking west side, they're asking for literally any contribution at all. When they'll snag aware has been an abject disaster. This season in that columns looks like the special teams player that he is. Where's the speed on the team? That can't be all on Wednesdays overthrowing it right at that seems like he is not good at tracking the ball. Ball to some extent. Is that fair to say? There were two plays. There was the one along the sideline where him in Trae. Wayne's are kind of battling with each other in Nelson Adler hits the deck. You gotta be stronger than that. Adler has always struggled against contact. You'll be stronger than that you have. The guys stacks. You're in a good position. Platelets stronger. Don't go down and you might. You might have a chance to make a play on the ball, the other one in the middle back of the endzone really. Really confused me. Because number one I thought that might have been a slight overthrow, or in inaccurate, throw by whence, but at the same time. If you watch what's happening with Nelson Adler on that play when he's in the end zone, he starts to fade off to his right. A ball lands inside of him. Where're you going like? I can't tell if it was an overthrow a bathrobe by Carson, Wentz, because Nelson AG Gloria didn't track the doggone thing like did he get lost and lights again to the eagles playing Brady's. Brady's stadiums in the NFL on the road like I don't understand what's going on with this guy in two thousand seventeen. He was a much better D. threat I thought Zachary's had had a really bad game. The other guys around him are giving a much. They are not helping Carson Wentz in these situations, and it feels like winces like living and dying by every single throw in every single play, and nobody else's awesome stumbles at of bounce on that perfect throw firm alongside hotels at the. There's no reason to stumble. Carson Wentz didn't lead him out of bounds. He let him fine, and he just goes out of bounds sudden. It's a field goal instead of a potential touchdown. He's GonNa. Get all the the brunt of the crisis of the WE'RE GONNA. Put on him. The Eagles aren't winning, and it's dislike I. Honest to God feel this way. Hundred percent like nick, foles e would not have the same bad luck that Carson Wentz. Sean back like they now need him knack. They need him back. Brother unless it's Jalen Ramsey I. don't know who is going to help this scheme from Jim Schwartz. When he just gets to. Slap outcoached like he did today Jim Schwartz is like it's a real love, hate relationship with me and him as as far as had the job that he's done. I think he gets overly criticized for some things that he doesn't deserve to be criticized for about but at the same time when it goes wrong, it looks super ugly and like I said I thought. Thought he he got his butt kicked today, but we does things. Right isn't get the same amount of credit that he should get. And the an is concerning with with the players that they have in the secondary right now the way that they're playing the way that they're coverages. Busting is just ugly. On the Stefan, digs fifty one yard touchdown, there were two quarterbacks on both sides of Ball Bo. Sidney Jones and soul Douglas thought that they had safety help. It wasn't just Malcolm Jenkins. That belt zone like you're not giving these guys any support whatsoever and. and. It's the same thing over and over again that we talked about the Vikings. They quick game the eagles to death last year cousins was thirty for thirty seven three hundred yards. Only five passes went beyond five yards. That were completions this this week. Deborah, heavy! Play Action Game. Plan, which renew knew is going to be the case coming into it. And then they ran that little smokescreen. Four times were cousins. Just takes one steps gets the ball out, and receiver has eight yards of cushion between him defensive back in space to make the guy missed. That's putting. Putting your defensive backs in a disadvantageous position, so it's it's. It's really tough to get a handle on. Schwartz from week to week. He's just got to be more consistent like I said about micro last year, so it's frustrating that I m saying it again this year and it was not addressed. Something tweeted out yesterday in the scene scheme last year was like. Maybe we don't talk enough about how eagles offense coordinator might grow, was passing game coordinator for two thousand sixteen rams offense that ranked thirty first in passing yards per game, thirty seconds and passing away. Again they put the focus on bring all these guys in and those are such big acquisitions, and they made such a big emphasis on it. They lose those guys and I go well. It's all right. Anyone can do the micro urine and of course at Benjamin select. We have to have this every week but I feel like it makes more sense this week with a fire Jim Schwartz yacht me like a half a second. I was like come on. All right never mind I get I! GET IT I. Figured it out. I think Doug Peterson for some of the faults. We've seen with him. I think we've seen good from him. Yeah, and the accuracy is a perfect example to make me think okay. You know the dog can get. This figured out. He'll see some of the state mistakes from the scheme in Ho learn from them I. Think they've earned some of that. That right you know based on what they've already accomplished to this point, but in the meantime you like after this game like they're just, there aren't a lot of silver linings in the short term they're probably going to be fighting for a third or fourth seat as a division winner realistic for them, and I think that's totally within reach. There are positives here. Everything's bad. It's all negative Scott the team whatever, but there there are a lot of holes I'm not gonNA deny that and I think talent, the lack of talent which is crazy because we thought this is going to be one of the most talented rosters in the league. Yeah, you're just think there is a talent deficiency with this team, especially in terms of style like we talked about earlier, not asked enough astor astor players. You have to forty nine was exciting, but that was just the primer. This Saturday UFC two fifty is starting off the June sports calendar with a bang and draftkings the leader in one day. 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Today explained thanks. A. Week Seven, DALLAS, thirty seven Philadelphia ten. I'm Michael Kissed here with Benjamin Sollac. The kissed and so like show episode I think one thirty five, and I'm not I'm not even sure. But. We're going to talk to you about this disgusting. Unacceptable thirty seven to ten loss eagles drop one to the Dallas. Cowboys who now have the lead in the Division One team came prepared to play from Bell, the bell that was Dallas. Cowboys do not tell me everything is delicious right now. Mike I just have I've one burning question for these Philadelphia Eagles Coming Office thirty seven to ten loss. Why does Carson so read during these games? I'm worried about him. He gets bright red. hydrating is the do tie. I feel very bad for him. He's very flushed. That's how you can tell. He's pressing. Someone in you know Schuylkill. Has that take? Like. Listen, you can tell the Carson's trying too hard by his skin tone. Doug abandons analytics in chooses to take the ball to start the game for the first time in three years. Is that a is that an analytic thing? Ever the analytics thing it is yeah. Analytics favor deferring for points in an extra possession and all that stuff. It's very small, but you know eagles. I take the small edges in and run with. With typically. I guess it's a mental thing with Doug. He wanted to get the team to start. Hot May change them in tally. A little bit definitely didn't work because then Dallas. Garnered is stripped by Jalen Smith on the first drive. Dallas recovers tape on. Austin left alone all alone on an option play that broke Orlando scandic in space. Seven nothing lane gets beat for a strip sack had a bad game. Dallas recovers. Plays Zeke trucks Malcolm Jenkins also had a bad game down at the one next played touchdowns, fourteen nothing they kick off. Sanders receives the kick and hesitates coming out putting them at the thirteen yard line stupid mistake. Jeffery has dropped that saved by penalty so that would all all the all the sequence of events there now now they get a touchdown after this great call, great catch great, throw and use. The is by wince on that play. That was one of eight throws in the first half Ub. But yet again we had an absolute stinker of a start from a team. When you look at it on the whole, and this team just vacillates between pressing too hard and having tapioca pudding for brains that just leaking out of their ear balls. This team is clearly and was clearly not ready to play, and that's one hundred percent on the coaching. They've got a problem. That's bigger than this game if they can't get up for a prime. Prime time showdown for division lead with a divisional rival. It is garbage and they have one week to fix it going into buffalo before the by because otherwise they're season is probably done right without it as a top three talented team in the NFL by this podcast you by this podcast by national media, and by everyone around Philly, and we all bought into it right this team, the staff. This organization smelled their own and said Damn. It must be roses. What a failure! This has been from top to bottom t to be. This offense hasn't been the same since the brain drain of right leaving and the Hubris that they have to think that they had it all figured out, and then all of this was fun. That repeating that success would be all gumdrops and lollipops, and they merely skipped their way to another super bowl and say look how much fun we are having. Well we aren't having fun now. None of us are in fact. All of us are sick of it. You just get to show up on. Sundays and have teams laid down for you because you're the mighty mighty, and everyone thought you were going to be great coming into the season this whole thing reeks of ego and complacency, and there is zero leadership or accountability right now, and you can put that on Doug you. You can put that on Carson. You can put it on the vets like Jenkins and Ben. I'll put it on you to explain to me what the Hell is going on with this team because they're are disappointing. The hell out of US lane lanes has a rough game links as bad game, and like humans have bad games. It's just this is the one week lane. You can't have a bad one you know. This is this is what I keep going back to with this offense. Can we have one week? Where one of the players in the offense and I said position players, but now I'm gonNA throw it in with the offensive line, too, because you can throw in Sumatra with the Atlanta game. Can we have one game? Where there is an offensive player that isn't having the worst day of his life. The team needs him to be perfect. When he is not perfect, they lose badly and sometimes they lose anyway my and that's the kind of the expectations that has been put on Carson probably on fairly, and course obviously hasn't lived up to that I mean. How can how can you now here's my problem? There seems to be something that's not on field. That's going on with this team. This team has a leadership problem at some level, and like I said whether it's Doug. Whether, it's Carson. Whether. It's Malcolm Jenkins whether it's Jason Peters whether it's The coaching staff from Jim Schwartz to grow. These guys are not ready to play. They're not ready to execute. It's not happening for them right because it's either Hubris or ego or something. We already won a super bowl and we're having so much fun. This team is not ready to play as cohesive unit in these types of situations, and it shows up in these past two years shown up a whole lot. They played teams that there are a lot better than better. What do we talk about better coach? Better, quarterback better talent. How many teams were checked? All three of those boxes have this eagles team in the past two years lost to A. A few too many, yeah, when your team is unprepared. As the eagles were to play against the Dallas Cowboys, when you have multiple instances of the incorrect number of players on the field, which is crazy to me and that's that's what I'm. That's exactly what I'm talking about right under prepped. That stuff shows up in those types of situations. What did you say earlier on twitter? They had more. At the half they had had a two plays on which the incorrect number of of defenders on the field and one third down stop. You'RE NOT GONNA. Win The football game. It's like the fourth or fifth time that's happened. What is going on with this stat? Who plays where the Touchdown Darwin? Kick the sixty throughout filled. Ed Tech is on the field she's. Is there anybody in the offense? You WanNa bench sure Nelson, Igor, but what are you GonNa? Give more snaps. Malkov Mike Collins. Already, macalister take a hundred and fifteen offensive snaps party the last three weeks on exaggeration when you're Peterson who by no means is Peterson anywhere near like? Job Security Right team of people are saying like he's getting coach and I'm saying there might there might be a problem with his message, not translating with this team right now, but there have been instances in the past where he got it right, and he fixed it, and he knows more than anybody else how to fix it right now. It's not fixed. He needs to do it. It's it's it's on him. I have more faith in him than literally anyone else in that organization to get that part right car, Carson, today's and GOV NBC s quote when I threw it. I thought we had a touchdown Carson wentz on the deep ball Galore Yep talk or Spicy, I thought I should have done a lot more than put his hands out for a second brought him back in. I had no idea what was going to at least outward. More than he's been, Whoa, what find good for Carson for finally calling some excuse me for finally calling out somebody this team big spicy. So here eagles. Warren sharp the sharp front of the pod Eagles have given up twenty points in the first half five times in seven weeks first time it's happened in thirty years Mike There's problems on the office side. If we're talking about which unit is more responsible, a defense I have given a lot of credit to Schwartz for a lot of different things, rams game last year. I talked endlessly about the off season this season. What has he done other than stack of fricken box because okay next Gen stats for instance next. Gen Stats Ezekiel. Ezekiel Elliott face light box only two of twenty two attemps nine point one percent seasonal against the eagles assigned to stop the run. This is what they do. They stack the box more than any team. In the NFL area pass funnel defense, Elliott average season is five point, six yards, gain and stuff for no gain on just one of twenty two attempts. I care about the fact that this team continues with shorts to load up the box. Not give their quarterbacks help. There isn't a single quarterback that has not maybe this comes down to Coriolis. Coriolis into that does not double moves that does not give up deep post that does not give up six. There are bad at it. They're horrible at it. They give up gigantic while so space. And Maybe it's on the coaching to that. Every single linebacker in this dog on system takes the cheese on every single play action. Pass I gave you. The stat was a thirty eight quarterback rating against against play action coming into this game that included the jets that had perkin pick six that they certainly even had because it was under. Throw they. They made zero change in the past few weeks on how to change that zero change in helping their cornerbacks zero change and allowing the most separation in the League for wide receivers on the outside, they were the worst of the league, covering wide receivers on the outside, and is for a darn good reason. I'm sick and tired of seeing it. They weren't cover zero blitz near that in the red zone, they gotta Landau schedule plane eight yards off outside leverage. Where do you think that pros going that? The entire middle of the field? That's gotTA. Happen, the main thing the rap where I got into fire Schwartz territory was third in twelve was one of us amazing place ever seen in my life. Eagles guy come up four down linemen, two linebackers sugar in the gaps as a four wide sense. They got four corners about five yards off the safety. The Eagles basically told Dallas listen. We have nobody in the middle of the field right now, who able to react to in run to any play outside right? We might bales bill. Bill they did at simulated practice when they ran before. As a matter of fact like it's on tape pretty regularly, none of our defenders can go help to the outside right now because they're all on the line of scrimmage, so the cowboys ran a wide receiver screen on third and twelve and picked up fourteen yards in like the easiest fashion like I, like Kelly. Moore must have looked at that like you know like cartoons. Free like your is really hard when you look again. Are you sure. Is this real? Am I alive? You wouldn't even see that. In most other defensive coordinator wouldn't even be a thought that was had with the with the eleven that are available to you. It's hard to imagine a defense that those well just period now you can do better than thirty seven points. You can do better than than constant third-down buffs, constant, third-down talented. You can do better than regular leaving explosive plays in the exact same way I will not relinquish my point. That Jim Schwartz is very fine, which is losing the exact same way every single week without even trying to implement the solution and. An end you have backups in, and you're not making an effort to change anything to make their lives easier right so you running a system that doesn't work with the stars, and then worst players get in, and you run the same system where you're GONNA get even worse results, remember and remember. It was Malcolm Jenkins that I had to go to Schwartz last year and tell them hey, brother. We are drowning out here. You need to simplify. This was with worst players like the faces. Faces for me that are very religious Schwartz, but like you know when you do not have the the the cornerback personnel, even when healthy to play man coverage at all. It's hard to run any sort of successful defence who gives it but look bullock? What they're running isn't disrupting anything to allow the pass rush to get home. At least allow the rush. There is zero chance for this pay Jim Schwartz says the coverage needs to be better for the pass. Rush to get home. Let somebody. Stick somebody at the line. You're playing eight yards off your playing. Wyoming were playing in Florida. What's going on? Do something about it right now. That things like again like you can put these guys in a situation that they're more likely to be successful I. Just you know I. Do firmly believe that Amari Cooper. Rasul Douglas no matter what you do. Is GonNa be advantage of pretty much all the time you know for sure and I'm and I'm in I. Think you know I recognize that as well absolutely one hundred percent? We both said you're going to need to give help to Rasul Against Amari Cooper. Did, he get a whole lot of help on that double Esau as law middle of the field safety struggling to get over there yet will Rondo they. They start with a three. A three receiver nabs said they modem cooper now so roddy shade get back to the middle of fuel and that even then Cooper's weak side as as Chris. Cosworth very nicely detailed on the The Hey, hey, bracket, them find a way to give some. They never do running racket. A means go split safety. How long we've been asking for this team to just try going split safety so this. This is what I'm saying. I think that like Yeah I. Think to me like if you want to circle the area in which there's consistent failure everywhere for Philly it's positional coaches. Right I mean like again. Let go circling back our conversation last week. which a lot of you gave her the positive feedback kind of the way that we approach the Minnesota game in the mid recap, some of the frustrations you gotta Id for me like besides stout linen the. The offense align where our players getting better way. Our young players improving on this team, and that's the Hubris, that I was talking about it at the at the top of the show, the Hubris a think, we have everything that we need inside of the building, right, we'll just promote everybody we lose right. We lose di Filippo will promote everybody. They can figure it out because we haven't figured out. You don't have it figured out. You have to be able to surround yourself with the citizens who can help you do the work. You need to be able to be a full integrated coaching staff unit so for Peterson. If you have a question about him as a coaching as a coach right now, it's your brought in. You given, Staley. Everybody else has been yours. Reich turned out great D.. Filipo was kind of like known. WHO's an office coordinator multiple? Isn't it comes back to quarterbacks coach but diva turned out well once you'll lost those guys he added. The interior promotions is simply not a positive effect. You've got to be able to find good assistant coach from across the League and bring them in, or if you're gonNA promote pressing grow. GotTa make them into something at the Real Dick Finn. I love his pick by the way I avatar. subpoenas on Fan. What about what about tim? Keller at Gwala underscore him tank for rugs talking about Henry Rugs? The guy that basically runs a four flat, but that the rugs is GonNa be gone number one as an alternate competitive guy, the NFL's GonNa to love him. He's GonNa frigging fly the combine if we're looking for a deep threat, right probably looking at Cagey hamlet from. Young man let me tell you. Kids Blur cads. Also you know. Jalen regard, you can only say the name, and then you have to say goodbye to the gentle listeners. You have one choice to vote off the island. Who are you voting off the island between Jim Schwartz and Mike grow into the gentlest nationals. This is what we're doing. This is my show. The only time I've ever GONNA. Pull that card on. Now because I am upset and you're not upset enough right? I'll I'll fire growth. I think there's a better case for Schwartz's listen like my defense really has not been healthy like the corner. They've been playing with multiple street. Free agents like I've been able to put out better defenses before. Let's figure it out whatever I told you just to say my name and say goodbye to valuable to the show, so that was that was that was. I wasn't listening because. I was shot wall. You're saying that I was literally typing poll. We did not talk beforehand and my poll is. We can only do one fire microbiome shorts. I didn't even see that. Yeah, I, just sent it. This is amazing. We're on the same wavelength. God was finishing. Sentences thank you as always for listening to the kiss. This whole act show here media radio. We appreciate swing on by week eight. Philadelphia thirty one. Buffalo Thirteen I wouldn't necessarily call this a statement win, but it's a good win, and it's a win that the eagles absolutely needed at this point how you doin. It's yeah on. Everything is delicious. Thank you, FRASCA appreciate. It's it's again. Oh, no, we we we ourselves with our backup against the wall. What should we do? Don't want a game. You win the eagles to most resounding impressive. Victories like you know. We really felt. They came out and they won the game against a good team. Even if you thought the bills were not not that great of a Tina's talent. I've been so far against the the packers when they wanted to in the bills when they're three and four now if you continue. Only winning games when you drop one game below five hundred eventually, and and the season at five hundred, a little spot right now to make the division come down to Louise Sixteen game against the cowboys. If they beat the game. If they beat the teams they should be. That's what it will come down to very good. Win Coming into this game and you saw that there were twenty five mile an hour winds. There were gusts of over forty miles. Miles an hour I remember. The previews show I was saying this needs to be like twelve personnel bully ball type of game, and that's exactly what we got from the Eagles and credit to Doug Peterson the offensive staff and everyone for cooking up a really good plan that would work in these type of when it came to the screen game like you know, necessity is the mother of invention. When it came to that for them, because screen game was. was fantastic and then the running game I mean you just look at the stats here. Two hundred eighteen rushing yards, and you control the ball for thirty five minutes and fifty seconds compared to the Buffalo Bills at twenty four minutes. You control the clock. You didn't turn the ball over. Except for that one. Boston Scott deal on on special teams so really physical game you go into their house. You beat up on them. You play Bully Ball Carson Wentz. WENTZ was very efficient. Making plays on his own to creating on his own, a just a good game, overall from this eagles offense against a very tough bills defense, and the defense did what they should have done against bills, offense that really has been inept for most of the season, so just as as a really solid win. We gotta talk about that touchdown by the bills by the way NATO Gary what. Are you doing, brother but go ahead? Again, you know I really. Gary, probably be more apologetic to the player. Be More sympathetic I should say. But it was Gary so bad. What because it's not an aberration? He adapted it to him the week before he gave up his responsibility. Now you're talking about is you're fourteen third and goal from the fourteen th. It's not like it's like third and four fourteen stick Beasley. Make him cross the line. Let the percent then right and then if he gets it, he gets it, but the much higher percentage play. Is the as rope though wide open throw at the two yard line. Right that you just created. Because he had charged Allen Complimentary football offense was playing well, defense was not defense was was playing, while offense was not and then the defense gets turnover. Good play, call from the bills I. Know that there are some people critical of it in bills media, but I like to quarterback power. Didn't they have a touchdown on that last week? That was. The Eagles had it pretty nicely boxed up, but like Josh. Allen needs to know in terms of execution. Football, you get a cost. It Eagles for cover able to punch. Three runs to set up for a first and ten from the twelve. To get all the way down to about five, I believe it was and that it's the fake shield screen to the Corner Post. Dowse Cairo real nice design works a lot off of what the Eagles do. Well Mattress Dallas Playboy ball in the red zone, a good defensive outing turn into a good offensive outing in this complementary football. This is how you want your systems together three down sort of offense, not really pushing the ball down the field, not picking up big chunk gains took about two third quarter to get into a rhythm. That's too long, but for the first time in weeks there was not a massive hole to take out of yeah for. For the offense by the time they got rid them of course, making great place with his legs, and they're they're doing choice throws, and they're running the ball. Really effectively for team plays that was that was a back breaker. What a what a nice drive that was yeah, and so that's what this all this team could be in terms of the unit, and in terms of the consistency and the talent coming together, but again it was flashes, so we're not there yet play designs and the areas of the field. They decided to attack A. You know going into the flats with tight onscreen getting into the flats with your running back smile sanders. Really delightful. Great a lot of backfield motion. A lot of pre-snap looks some to back weird unbalanced sets everything to get those linebackers, hesitating just a bit, and then either a they had Jordan Howard coming straight downhill, dumb or be. There was a quick play into the flats. And then you're expecting you're you're you're playmakers to pick up yardage the NUB sets? We talked about to a big part of the offense. The Y Y wingham miles sanders. My mentions blew up. I got out in front of it though because I tweeted in all caps miles, sanders, never a doubt, but. But his sixty five yard touchdown scamper. WHAT A beautiful design! This was a pony package will twenty one personnel the split back at you whether you want to call it a lead, raw or lead ice draws a hand hallway. Yeah, I mean brand. Thorvald drawn I think he's smarter than you. So me and Brandon Oregon fight getting like whatever you call. It doesn't matter that the concept is the same great whole. Jordan Howard picked two for one is a blocker which is fantastic. This guy's making contributions in every facet of the game and Sanders not allowed to think. Think about not allowed to read sees the whole, and that's when he can show off. You know that very very good burst and look. He was good man open-field on the screen early on in the game that set up the score allusive in space you the Sky Spacey's. He can look really really good. Encouraging signs, Mile Sanders and I think it's good for him from a mental perspective to get that that big explosive run that big touchdown run in give them some moving forward. Yeah, and the thing is you know you gotta out of a very peculiar luck? Luck, in terms of the split back is something needless of sprinkled, but not really relied upon, and then yeah, you get that lead is and I mean Jason Kelsey gets inside on Tremaine, Edmonds Jordan. Howard gets inside on I believe the reds are Alexander Wright lawyers too aggressive down into the whole net. You Go, you know Bob your uncle runway and that's what that's. What's Nice for Sanders? Is that you had that runway? And then it's just how you know who's got the jets in this case has got. The jets are the average Nelson Galore play. In terms of target or hand off is a negative EP. A play this point right like if you're targeting if you're giving the ball towards Nelson Galore you're more likely to be losing a chance to win than winning chance to look at it Luda stat line by the way for receptions, seven yards to carries seven yards, brother. That's not getting it done with Sanders. It's been less and we're trying to get this guy. The ball for the explosive multiple missed tackles. Tackles Chunk yardage. We've been doing it through the air when we've gone. Hedren there that we had the great screenplay where he followed the blockers for a decent amount of time for mile, Sanders Yup and then broke into open space, made picked up some extra yardage as well, and that's what you're looking for with that player when you draft him, and then you have the sixty five run where it's like. Listen you know Jordan Howard Darren sproles j.j Iowa gear blunt. Blunt Corey Clement any running back you WANNA name. Peterson era is not housing that the way sanders did because they don't have the speed. Sanders does need the acceleration especially as well to break that last angle. He's been inconsistent, but these were the players that you were relying on the being the season to bring the speed components your offense. You know a lot of these plays where he bounces. We don't like that. He said he misses these holes and he'll continue. Continue to gain consistency on that front I see gains more ramps. We have remember. This guy started one year in college. It's a backup. They will get Barclay off the field for this kid, you know. He did not get a ton of touches, so he's to gain consistency at the NFL level there was that touchdown drive in the second half that just blew my mind hit. The the Eagles got the bills in these following situations on this drive first and twenty. Second and twenty. Third and fourteen. Second ten. Thirty. Second, thirteen third and thirteen, thousand thirteen. They brought up the another predictable blitz ball came out quick touchdown, Devin single Terry. You're going what is happening and then the next drive. It's like four th and ten and Ben I put I. Put up there on twitter. Click like if you had zero faith that they were going to get stop on fourth and ten Darby ends up making the the past break up there, but situationally, and this goes back to the end of the first half that you alluded to before. Eagle score bills get the ball like twenty two seconds left in some time outs, and they can't make a frigging tackle. They can't. They can't bring down Josh Allen. They almost get a few goal out of it like brother, the worst crazy situational stuff if you as a defense. Crystal. Right all of a sudden zero blessing on third and fourth to. Do, know him you're playing Josh Allen. Worrisome, it's not even like the eagles defence was playing bad in the sense of they were regularly giving up first downs and couldn't answer anything. The bills did, and there was getting beaten all cylinders. They were getting into the best spots. A defense could be yup and Ben for the failing abysmally in those spots. Yeah like some dynamism dynamism is a word that's also okay. Hey, game from Carson. How about? On that fourteen play drive he get to third downs, alive in the second or third and ten yet the. Hurt and ten was they call the RPO on the up an option play like fake screen quarterback drama on the broadcast and when I saw it, I wasn't. What exactly was maybe Smart Peo-. Run TAG is quarterback. Ron Doug says in the Presser Carson looked at wider skewed screening and figured I could probably think up eleven yards on my own with the entire offense, not being on board with this and he could. You? Know Big Carson. Got Respect that. He he carson put Carson. Winters column because twenty four passes one touchdown him. a good player. I'm not GonNa you know mollycoddle him by claiming? That's a big win for him. You know I mean. He played evaded mistake free game in bad weather conditions, and protected a lead very nicely, especially with his with his legs, lay in that game through a couple. Nice Balls Default Alshon Zach Ertz to set up the first and goal at the salt game away. It was another very nice. Throw in stride and everything like that. That people are making a lot out of this whole. Zakar is getting targeted. Thing the online it. Well I mean they had tremendous white on Zach Ertz for a lot of the game, so yeah, my come off that yeah, but I'd say if. The Entire Eagles receiving core is alshon Jeffery. Akers. So problem we have yet gone now. Another game with mccollough, not getting a target Doma God brother I. This might be just the least productive stretch in terms of snaps to receptions and snaps the targets of a wide receiver, just like history at Feldman Underscore Zach longtime listener. He says resigned Jordan Howard. It's going to be a no for me right now. Dog If Howard is going to pick up A. A bulk of these carries and whatnot. I just want to see him. Get through healthy ideally sanders. Is your one a after this year end of this year. Yes, Oh, Howard is is cool. Being paid like a timeshare guy than cool, but I don't think you will be on, so it might be tough on a price point. I don't think the GONNA pay out of pocket pretty heavy for Jordan Howard. Gene Smith says stolnis called at brother stolnis predicted, Johnny boy, what am I winner? Chm Week exact score thirty, one thirteen, while were suckers over here. Be Debbie Downer for there. I thought we were GonNa get like twenty, eight, thirteen, twenty, eight, sixteen, I thought right, and I was like. Oh Cool Twain Sixteen. I called it. Just with the wrong team winning the bills had a top five easiest schedule in Dvr a history going back to nineteen eighty six. The bills were the worst five in one teen in Devi history I called them paper. Tigers I cannot stand up and say this is a this is a defining win. It'd be a really, but they beat a bunch of tomato cans. Let's be real about it I don't think the Eagles are necessarily that better like that much better on paper than they were, they were always better than the three or fourteen and being four and four is. Is a big deal in terms of the playoffs, so the wind matters at a great deal in terms of like the playoff race. I still think they pretty much what they thought we were. They are what we thought. They were Yup but like we also thought I'd still think they have enough talented beat Dallas on the division so you know even after that game against dowse will see, but it is say goodbye to the gentle listeners who we are now bashing because they don't know how to do three words correctly as always. Thank you as always listen to the. Show here on BG and radio. We appreciate just swing by Eagles beat the bills thirty one to thirteen as John Stolnis told you as you're following the feed, and you're listening to the podium if you'll want to know the score beforehand. Year cowards. 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At the Podium: Ol' Walk It To 'Em Wentz

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At the Podium: Ol' Walk It To 'Em Wentz

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred in sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze Rozier. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP. The Eagles are at the podium. And we've got it all covered for you right here powered by SP nation and bleeding nation. I'm your host John Stoldas you can follow me on twitter at John. STOLNIS list coming up. We're going to hear from Doug Peterson Carson wentz in the minutes after the eagles. Big Seventeen to nine win over the Dallas cowboys on Sunday. And then we'll hear from. Doug Peterson Jason once again from his Monday afternoon. News Conference after he'd had twenty four hours to digest the eagles huge win over the Dallas cowboys. A Win that keeps their season in alive a win that was essentially a playoff win for the eagles as they needed to beat the cowboys on Sunday to keep their hopes of making the postseason alive and they did that by winning. Seventeen to nine of course as you all know and we will break it all down for you here coming up in the next few minutes as we hear from Doug and we hear from Carson tremendous game from both of those those guys but as we lead off my three things To start off this episode of at the podium the main thing the number one takeaway is yes. Carson Wentz was great. Doug Peterson John was great. But this win belongs to the defense. I my main concern coming into this game. was how in the heck the Eagles Defense which has struggled at times this year we we saw them struggle against the giants. We saw them struggle against Washington. The last two weeks we know the struggles they've had against really some bad offenses in the Falcons and the Lions wins and specifically the dolphins. How are they going to stop the number one offense in football the Dallas cowboys? How are they going to slow down? Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott and Amari Cooper. Three guys. They have not been able to stop over the last four games and the eagles defense came through Jim. Schwartz came through the secondary came through. They didn't have come Gruza Hill. He was lost for the rest of the season They had a banged up. Derrick Barnett Fletcher Cox Brain. Grandma had been struggling at different points. This season I honestly honestly didn't know I didn't know how defense was going to slow down the Dallas cowboys offense and yet they found a way to do it and one of the things that made me feel a little bit more confident as the week went on was I started to look at the eagles. Defenses home road splits and this is a completely different defensive unit when they are playing at Lincoln financial field going going into play on Sunday. The defense allowed an average of seventeen point eight points per game at home. They allowed a quarterback rating of eighty two point five and they only gave up an average of five point. Eight yards per. Play away from Lincoln. Financial Field quarterbacks had a rating of one or two point four. That's twenty points higher and average yards per play. I have seven point. Four three and the Eagles Defense on the road had given up. twenty-nine points per game twenty nine versus seventeen point eight points per game. That's a huge difference. Tonight's as I was looking over those numbers I thought to myself. No maybe maybe the defense can come through at home. That's exactly what they did on Sunday afternoon. So Ah Eight Home Games. This year the defense gave up an average of just sixteen point eight points per game. That is the third best home average in in the NFL. This is the third best home defense in the national football league. which if the eagles can finish the job against the New York giants on Sunday afternoon? Noon and Sundays Win Against Dallas means. Nothing if they don't follow it up with a win in New York against a four Win New York giants team but if they can do that they will have finished up the season as the third best home defense in the NFL and if they can get that home playoff game in the first round by winning the division they can beat the seahawks they can beat Seattle or San Francisco in Lincoln financial field. They almost beat the seahawks at home earlier. This year offensive core playing playing the way they are right now in that Seattle game they probably win that Seattle game and so I think that gives the eagles a great chance if they can manage to beat the giants the way this defense plays at home gives them a shot to beat anybody in the first round of the playoffs. They held Dallas to fifty four yards rushing in this game and kept them out of the end zone. You can't can't ask for anything more than that Ray. Dinger said on the post game. Show that the cowboys had just one snap inside the eagles red zone all game long incredible job. They had a steel curtain at the twenty yard. Line all game just phenomenal. The cowboys were twenty one percent on third down. They came into the game as the best third down team in the NFL NFL converting nearly half of their third down opportunities Ezekiel Elliott. Who has been a terror against the eagles? He had gone for over one hundred yards cards in each of his last three games against Philadelphia thirteen carries for forty seven yards. Just a three point six average for Elliot Sidney Jones. What a what a late season Sidney Jones is having? He's still not getting on the field all that much but remembering the Monday night game against the giants when he made that huge third down pass break-up to essentially save the game for the Eagles allowed the eagles to to get go on that final drive and allowed Carson Wentz to eventually win the game in overtime. Sidney Jones. Making the play of the game that Monday night was was unbelievable and then he comes back as the eagles were dealing with injuries to Ronald Darby and jalen mills went. went out for a little bit for him to make that pass. break-up on that fourth-down Gallup I think it was. Who is the wide receiver on that? Play what had just a tremendous play by. Sidney Jones owns on the final defensive. Play the game to seal the win for Philadelphia as the cowboys. Were trying to drive down the field down eight. You gotTa feel good for a guy who's the second round pick. A couple of years ago has been a healthy scratch. Most of the second half of the season he had been brutal. He had killed this team in the first half of the season in gym shorts shorts just couldn't put him on the field anymore once Ronald Darby and once Jalen Mills got healthy. They just could not play him. They couldn't afford to do it. He was making too many mistakes to see him. Come through late in the season just it must be a tremendous feeling for him to contribute here down the stretch. Malcolm Jenkins finally looked like a superstar player out there. He was all over. The place. Jenkins has been fun this year. But he hasn't been making star level plays he made star level plays I mean. They needed at least one of their star defensive players to make plays on Sunday afternoon and Malcolm Jenkins was everywhere. Tremendous game from Malcolm Jenkins now. The defense did benefit from awesome. Poor play by the cowboys. I think they had six drops. The cowboys did DAK missed a number of long throws well. Guess what the Eagles have lost about three or four games. This year are because of drops and because of throws Carson Wentz didn't make early on sometimes these things even out a little bit sometimes defense has to get a little bit of luck and they certainly certainly did that but the eagles game plan coming into this game was was pretty clear they didn't want to blitz. They looked at the numbers that showed that that Prescott was one of the better quarterbacks against the blitz this year and so they rushed for most of the game and they basically played man demand in some in some pretty straight strict zone. They didn't do anything crazy in this game. The big key was that they were disciplined. They they really focused on stopping Zeke. You'll Elliott and they made the plays that were in front of them. They tackled tackling was huge. In this game you see how something as simple as tackling can be when you're playing and letting letting receivers make make catches in front one of you. The key is to tackle to prevent them from getting the first down. Because if you if you can keep a receiver on third and six keep make that Prescott throw the ball and four yards down the field to yards in front of the first down marker and then Rapa guy up. You're going to get off the field. Every time the tackling was huge in this game. It has been it has been missing. It has been lacking for most of the second half of the season. But here in this game the tackling was tremendous. And that's what this defense needs to do from here on out if they're gonNA make stops you'd like to have seen more pressure on that Prescott. The only got one Saka Vinny Curry sack in this game but he did a lot of dumping off in the Eagles was held. And when you when you hold a team to just three field goals when you don't let them get more than one snap inside the red zone just tremendous effort by Jim swartz. This was the biggest biggest reason why the eagles one on Sunday afternoon. A very disciplined game by the eagles a well called game by Jim swartz great job by a unit that has been getting filleted played. Gym Shorts probably saved his job on Sunday afternoon. Once again he probably did enough to save his job working with a with a core that I just I wrote for bleeding green nation this week. I didn't know how they were going to beat back Prescott in the offense especially given how back in the offense looked against the rams the week before they looked like a machine again. You saw the talent that they had but but for whatever reason Dallas just couldn't they did not show up yesterday. They couldn't get the offense going in the defense did the job let's let's be fair though Carson Wentz is is proving the doubters wrong. And that's the second thing here is what Carson Wentz his doing here down. The stretch is flat out ridiculous. He's the first quarterback in NFL history to record thirty or more completions and have no interceptions in three straight games. That's insane what an insane. Statistic Ruben Franken noted that since two thousand seventeen only Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers. Have more games with at least one touchdown and no interceptions than Wentz and Carson has missed a bunch of time since two thousand seventeen in December wentz has a sixty eight percent. Completion percentage one thousand two hundred twenty passing yards nine touchdowns one interception option and a one zero one point seven passer rating. He's doing all this with Greg Ward. Jj Theta Whiteside Mile Sanders. Boston Scott and his two outstanding in tight ends and hey give. Jj credit for some big catches on that first drive he kinda disappeared later in the game. But that's when the eagles started going to a lot more screen passes a lot more to the tight ends and that seemed to work for sure. I mean it's Carson's not chuck in the ball down the field but they are finding ways to get these guys open and now Carson needs just one hundred sixty seven passing yards against the giants on Sunday to pass Donovan mcnabb for the most yards in a single season by Eagles quarterback three thousand nine hundred sixteen. He needs just two hundred fifty yards for four thousand yards passing to become the eagles. I four thousand yard passer in team history whence joins the following as the Only quarterbacks with thirty more completions in three straight Games Matt Ryan this year Kirk Cousins last year Philip rivers in two thousand fifteen peyton manning. Did it twice. Drew brees breeze. Did it three times Tom Brady. Kurt Warner Rich. Gannon Steve Young. That's it that's the list miles sanders also had a monster game and he is having a tremendous this season here in his rookie year. Forget about being just a rookie mile. Sanders has more yards from scrimmage. This year twelve seventy six than any other single player in a season season. In the Doug Peterson era. He has been a lifesaver for this team. Where would the eagles be without him? What a tremendous pick Howie? Roseman has had his share of MRS and the draft. wbt He'd nailed the Mile Sanders pick with their first pick in the second round. Only Josh Jacobs with thirteen hundred sixteen yards for has more yards from scrimmage as a rookie this ear then miles Sanders Dallas Gutter a phenomenal game from Dallas Goddard. And I've been hard on this year. I thought he's been he's been largely invisible -able for for much of the first two years here. He's come up with some big catches from time to time. But since they lost Jeffrey and since they lost Aguilar and they've had to go to two tight ends and really utilize I utilize both of them in the passing game. Goddard has been a monster and again on Sunday nine catches for ninety one yards and a touchdown some tough catches which is a tremendous touchdown catch in the first quarter what a grab what a throw by Carson Wentz Finding Goddard winning that fifty fifty ball in the end zone just a phenomenal game from Goddard. I take back everything I said kissing so like you were right. Dallas Goddard is a very good football player. This was the breakout game that I had been waiting for to see from Goddard. We're now seeing it on. We're now seeing in the statute we're now seeing it on the field in Production Dallas Goddard proving. He's a number one caliber tight end giving the eagles to to legitimate options when they really need them with no wide receivers out there. Just put on at this point with this younger hungrier crew. It's clear this is a better offense. They've developed a chemistry with Wentz that frankly carson did not have with Nelson and Alshon and if they make the playoffs offs and can win a home game in the first round. They might get the Sean Jackson back and then at that point. There's no reason to think that this offense can't put up thirty thirty five five points against anybody. They've just got a win against New York on Sunday to win the NFC East get that home playoff game and then if they win that home playoff game which they could do does Shawn. Jackson is eligible to come back. You never know one point of concern. JAKE ELLIOTT MS two of three field goals on Sunday. They were long ones but pixies gotta make An. I don't agree with Doug Peterson going for that. Second Field Goal that fifty five yarder at that point in the game. You either go for it on. What was it four thin Six four th and five at that point but you're deep in Dallas territory either punt them deep and make Dallas drive the length of the field when they're down owned by two scores. I think it was what an eleven point game at that point. Either go forward or punit. The field goal in that situation was the absolute wrong. Call the analytic skies. If they were whispering that in Doug Peterson they missed the boat on that one. You don't kick the field goal there. They should have gone for it or they should have punted. That being said Elliott has struggled lately. He's just six express last ten all since signing a contract extension. One doesn't really have anything to do with the other but they need. They need to get Eliot going here in the final game of the season in order for him to get a little bit of confidence. Getting into the postseason. Because you need your field goal kicker feeling confident in close postseason games so the third third thing and this was again so blatantly obvious. Is that coaching matters. And it seems pretty clear to anyone who has watched these two teams this year. Anyone who knows anything about these two head coaches that if if Doug Peterson is on the cowboys and Jason Garrett is head coaching the eagles the the eagles would probably be six and nine or five and ten right now and the cowboys would be twelve and three. There's no way cowboys team with that much. Talent should be seven seven and eight after fifteen weeks if Doug Peterson is coaching that team. That team is probably vying for a first round. Bye and the Eagles are trying to figure out who they're going to pick nick in the top five of the draft Jason Garrett took Amari Cooper out on the final sequence of this game and Cooper seem to question the coaching staff for his ineffectiveness. Listen this game. You only had four catches for twenty four yards. I think average six yards a catch. Cooper talked to the reporters about all the short routes that he ran and said I feel like the go ball was a good route to run tonight. And we really didn't get to it cowboys coach Jason Garrett said via David More of the Dallas morning news that Cooper and Randall Cobb. We're not on on the field for the final fourth down play because they needed a rest after being in for a lot of the plays in the two minute offense that despite the fact that Cooper was not in for much of the second half but he was standing on the sideline and watching and Cooper's been battling a knee injury but Garrett said that he was rotating with Tavon Austin and Tabin was in. And you know the key. He's also said that the cowboys were in the hurry. Up Offense for much of that fourth quarter and they just couldn't get cooper back in the game. Which is insanity this tells you how bad of a coach Jason Garrett is why he's not going to be the head coach of this football team after this year? How you don't have Amari Cooper who has torched the eagles in his match-ups with this team since being traded to Dallas is beyond me? I don't care how banged up Cooper is. He's got to be in the game if for no other reason to make them to make Eagle Eagle Eagles secondary concerned about the deepal and also. Why does why does Ezekiel Elliott get just thirteen carries in this game? This was a close game. The Eagles did a good job. bottling him up but the fact that he got just thirteen carries has to be driving Dallas fans. Absolutely crazy Jason Garrett. Is the reason the this. This cowboys team is is looking at spending the offseason playing golf and not playing postseason football and Doug. Peterson is the reason this eagles team with no Alshon. Now Sean. With no Deshaun with no Nelson Aguilar with injuries everywhere on the offense no Jordan Howard. No Lane Johnson that this team is eight and seven and a win against a four win team away from getting to the playoffs for the third year in a row Doug Peterson now. Nine and two in Games fourteen through sixteen here you're in his career and he sat one of stars in most of one of those losses. He can make it ten to with a win against the giants now. He's six and seven in November. And that's got to improve appear over the next few years but the fact that Doug Peterson gets this team to play at their best. In December says something about Doug Peterson and that he's able to come up with plays with this. Limited skills with this limited cast. On offense is is is unbelievable. And he's doing he's done it with Nick foles and now now he's doing it with Carson Wentz and Carson wentz gang for everybody who wanted nick foles to walk back through those doors Carson. Wentz is doing all of the things that people didn't think he could do that. Only Nick foles could do. He's been clutch. He's been a winner. He's been lifting his teammates elevating his teammates. I think most of that stuff is Malarkey Larkin anyway but Carson Wentz playing his best football right now winning football games with a cast that nick full of a worst cast nick foles ever had in Philadelphia. So everybody everybody who who who still pining for Nick Foles ooh did or who didn't think that Carson Wentz was a winner and that Nick foles was a winner. Carson Wentz has been. Nick foles these these last three weeks. He's pulled wins out that really. No No quarterback should have been able to pull out. So if you've been wanting nick foles to be the guy this year Carson Carson Wentz has been nick foles but not only that Carson Wentz is like way better than Nick Foles Carson wentz showing that he was worth the investment that he was the was the right decision Asian to keep him in anybody. Who still believes that Nick foles should be this team's quarterback that going with Carson Wentz was a mistake are likely eating being? There should be eating their words here on Monday morning. Of course again. None of this matters if the eagles don't win on Sunday afternoon at four twenty five against the giants the the NFL flex the eagles giant's game so the now the eagles and giants and cowboys in Washington. We'll both be playing at four twenty five next Sunday afternoon and with the NFC East on the line. Let's head to the podium and let's get to Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz. And then we'll hear from Doug again in his Monday afternoon. News Conference Difference Baseball truly. It is awful. 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We had success tonight so something that we We continue to to build upon each week. Discourses behind rates. I think we can. We can Help him by formation. You know defense can can be a little more Kind of their base defense their base structure whether they're nickel or Based on field see things quickly allows him to get in and out of place if he has to And then and then our guys whose execute well it's been something it's Obscene positive for office defense industrial doesn't Miss. Who is the credential timeout? Yeah I wanNA full only Gal. This'll missile on sportscenter high. You'll hit fettes. Didn't allow them a couch down in this game Man Defense hats off these guys Date listen they they. They took this game. I think personal From the standpoint of what happened does the first time you know and Haven't haven't all our guys out there are. They had a great week of preparation. Obviously and we knew that coming in here that it the Dallas where they were coming off a great win last last week against the rams and the two hundred and fifty something yards rushing and they knew that was coming in and being able to You know at least you know. Shut that down to some to some degree That it's a private thing each week you know and and to keep this This is this is a great offense They can score points and to keep them out of the end zone home to three kicks like they did stop him. Awesome fourth downs Hats off to defense coach Washington awards in in his staff for a game. Where is it about you guys in December? I assume you'd rather not come down to the last few games like this every time but was saved. You buy your team. What is I think? I think he's just obviously you don't want it to come down to the month of December. I mean but you'd like to play better. You know. September October November but I just think the guys this is the team that when their backs against the wall they come out swinging and fighting in and whatever it takes also times. It's not not pretty and it doesn't have to be you know and Just put some plays together score more. Oh points in our opponent holder opponents down and you know just just play great team football and If we beat ourselves we give ourselves a chance and And that was what happened tonight. Dallas play today Guscott her click Progress Dallas had an outstanding game. As did many any of our younger players in this football game again and E- e- so tough Not only in the run run game but made some big catches tonight and Extended some dry forests and it's got a great report obviously Carson being on the same page and Just had a brilliant. Well you know miles has been getting better. Better see how this kind of workload yet again a game like this. I mean it's just It doesn't surprise me You know this is why we why we drafted him. Obviously for this type of You know for these types of games in performance seems to get a little bit stronger longer a little bit better each week and Yet another another good performance tonight About the offensive line as the game progressed Got Stronger and stronger and I was just really good to see you got the running game Kinda on-track in the second half and and The miles is really You you know kind of coming into his own now as a young player in really helping this offensive. Some of those younger players not just miles. Talk a lot about Greg. Josh not to have those guys playing this bar out of playoff game playoff like S.'s. Quarterly off game tonight was a playoff game. Means it means everything and and I think that's something that our team understand each week. Now you know starting in a couple of weeks go. Every week was a playoff game. Otherwise you know we're GONNA go home here in a couple two weeks but in our seasons not not done. We got another week left. I think our team understands that we've got A. We've got another division opponent on the road a chance to continue your season and it's GonNa take another sixty minute game. We went to overtime. You know what this team couple of weeks ago and You know our guys will have to be ready again to get healthy holiday week coming up and everything that's happening this week in in in prepare and get ready to play the nights guys how much in what way his has arsenal channel Starchy Carson. You know I I just think that he's you know He. He just continues to coach on the field. That you see during the Games talking with these guys in in Yeah You know it's just. It's just helping him you know and I think you're seeing the the trust factor with some of these young guys you know that. He's he's leaning on him a little bit more and and that's what you gotta do. I mean listen you know these guys are playing with so you know we. We've got to do that. He's done an outstanding job of leading the not not only the offense but the whole team and had another solid performance. Today we just gotTa keep it role in space. It is lying in a slyly. Live like waste. You know we feel like he can do that but you know we gotta be careful with them. I don't want to you know Do too much with them mentally. I wanted to continue to play play fast and and You know but but I think he's. He's versatile AL enough to you. Know play in space play in an empty formation or slot receiver which he did some tonight and he's just He's just really good athlete for us. And we'll just continue to find ways to to try to give them a boat. Holiday Week distractions guys. Feel good coming off a big win you have to Guardian Solo look human nature here You do but I'll tell you this These guys in the locker room. They're focused on next week. Already you know that. And that's scouse conversation that that has taken place in in Larkham even after this game I want them to enjoy this and and enjoy their families. This week with this time of the year is four But at the same time we got some unfinished business and And that's what they're talking about so that's exciting for me as a coach to know that. That's that's where their minds ad and and You know we we we have to. I can help them out with the schedule and all that this week. I'm excited for that. Aren't they a big big win for us The crops electric tonight to you know felt like playoff atmosphere Just like we said the last few weeks our backs against wall guys made plays defense played. Great offensively we left. We definitely have some place in some points out there but man if it feels good to get this victory take this season how to place de great great to be with guys again And like I said that playoff atmosphere can't be can't beat it especially being at home here Fans are awesome tonight guys made plays but You know at the end of the day we still got one more cars. It seems for the second consecutive week had some tempo to get you guys. Galley offensively How much is that helping? It's quite a a bit. I mean you you see it You know There's evidence obviously that is helping us in you know. I think that's one thing that coach I've said it before. But he just has a really good. I feel for when when to utilize it when you realize it whether you know he feels the defense. Is there on the rope on the ropes. Or if we're just we're moving ball whatever takes but Coaching is really good sense of when to do that. And when when not to pass crank byles is that play bitter playable Violets L. we've seen that route cobbles. Yes we would be able to do it at the line. At the line of scrimmage you know got a linebacker out during space in. Plato's his is a little bit and obviously Greg K might open on the sideline did a great job as big play for guys. You guys are cool enough at this time with working with her to see if he's going on so proud of this yes So proud of them. It's been really fun you know. Obviously we've had our backs against the wall while now and You know just the you can see the sense of belief that that each of these guys have you know and you see it. Each week with getting veteran veteran believing in themselves and believing in this team and I can't say enough good things about these young guys are continually stepping up for us. And we're GONNA need these guys downstream up early early in the game. Dallas stepped up career-high receptions and yards. Talk about that too tight ends like that. It's it's awesome. I mean they have really been three. I mean Josh Perkins. I don't know what he had for catches if any tonight but you know. He's a weapon that we feel. We can take advantage of his. Well now. I feel terrible. That attack you know got banged up to him. I I own something now but You know we've had Dallas Even last year we know can do. We know what he can do and You you know. He stepped up and made a bunch of big place for tonight and he's a competitor for about the way the coaches got a tailored the offense to all these guys Mrs not the way it was drawn up packet hats off hats off to the coaches putting the others game plan and doing what we can You know to to get our playmakers ball. Get Him get. Get Him in space in building His offense to each guys strength. You know and that's really what good coaching is in. You've seen that These last few weeks was with the game plans in How we put it together and You know it's been fun putting together with five hundred aspirin. Now last week's yourself places the South Wing. Yeah we're we're excited You know that was one of the first things that I was feeling. Obviously everyone's excited about this win but we we got one more one more one nothing yet. But we're excited for the opportunity. It's in our own hands to go take it and We're excited for they. Just get back on get back on and prepare the same way we always do in have letdowns in and it's going to take you know the leaders to it to make sure we're we're emphasizing that point But at the same time you know even just talking to a lot of guys locker my I can already feel that I can already feel that. Hey No one's no one's complacent our it feels like we want anything. We gotta go prove it again and we're excited for is less yourself as I it's hard to say it's just been I use the word fun just because it has been fun. You know seeing some of these guys just just grow up right before our eyes. No how in practice. Who seemed guys do it for some of these guys do it for a while? Some of these guys. We haven't really seen much at all but it's something new every time that we're working with and just seeing them grow grow up and make plays in the moments not too big for any of these guys and I just love seeing that in it's encouraging guys on defense in often everyone's is rallying together with a sense of belief. And that's what we're about to get the job on that ebbing as big. Especially you know. Feels like we've been down To these guys you know the last handful of games in Come out swinging early. The way we did you know obviously got I feel going to give touchdown there and Be Able to got up to the got ten points wanted to stay on it but It was big for us to come out and really start getting some momentum offensive the time of the way you approach them or something right tackle not really you know. I've felt even last last time against them. We had a great game plan And we just didn't make place last time and all the turnovers and put ourselves in in really tough situations Today we were able to convert apple third downs. There's still what we want back. But let's stay on the field and at the end they would just a little bit of a different week coming up with the holidays. And here's some human nature involved in that pulled in different directions. Doug Talk to you guys leaders and try to keep that sense of urgency go absolutely. Yeah you know I mean and you can go back to the Thanksgiving Week. Just it's it's important to have that that moment with our families and stuff and coach definitely emphasizes that But when we're working we're working you know nothing changes on that front and obviously it's an exciting time of year Christian means a lot to a lot of us but Yeah family part will definitely be there but I guess when we're working the go-to belt personality of fifteen hundred. How would you define it? Resilient energetic I think is a lot of excitement was with the unknown. A Lotta new faces guys that maybe weren't Expected to I'd be making these plays in that. So that unknown factor just as exciting you know and I think just the resiliency that I've seen that it's been the next man up mentality From really the moment I got here in Philly but You just see it over and over and it's exciting to see these guys come to work with the sense of belief in proudly taken that working and to get it done out here in this window. throaty got her back in the end zone over the linebacker close. Would you see play. Ralph Reed You know to look for onsite quick and come back to Dallas Dallas played big knowing. You got a body like like he does Can jump compound building where he can I said put it up in a hot in tall spot for him to go. Get it over those guys and he made great play. The last two years watching games like this late several sideline is it released satisfying just as much to be out. There was absolutely absolutely you know the last couple of years where I was on silent. It's not gonNA be no but the end of the day you know. God has a plan forward. And I'm just I'm trying to make most of the opportunities but you know it's fun like I said to be out there in playoff type atmosphere environments with with my teammates And do you get a big win like this Rohingya absolutely absolutely I mean you you know anytime. I'm you have the the late game wins. You know in the way we have Less two weeks now here tonight. Defense Meghan Hughes play at the end of the game you know and Someone on different making the big play every week but you know you can just feel that believes that guys. Hey we're GonNa get this done or win this game we're gonNA find a way And we do that again. I guess there's Markers Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers injures of college football podcast says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean. It's all spoiled every Tuesday. We talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling. 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Yeah Yeah it is You know that he got back out there just shows the toughness and his willingness to get back out there but as you guys know we we take every injury are- Seriously it make sure that we protect our players. And that's what Mondays are for. You know to do full evaluation. All our guys get nicked. Nick Open Games was been putting up some really good numbers in these last three games. Can you appreciate what he's doing because he has been on this stage in a while. He's been watching the sidelines in the last two years that he now he's raising of those games not just ahead Yeah Carson. I tell you You know the way. He's leading this football team right now. On the way he's playing you know Protecting the football number one Completion percentage you know he's taken what defenses are giving them what they're presenting is running the offense. He's doing things we ask him to do. He's he's playing tough he's running running. He's using his legs. All the things You know we know he's capable of doing. What's what's exciting for us? I mean this is fact that You know how he's doing it. I think through When when the when the opportunity arises you know take the shot down the field when it's not easy getting the ball out of his hand? He's protected himself an and a and it's allowed us to stay on the field extending some drives. And you know there are some place yesterday. Even that we left out on the field that you know we'd we'd like to have back into again but What he's done with his team wouldn't count the team on his shoulders in and put us in this position to You know obviously Komo when the NFC is is awesome for your quarterback for the future. What can this is career? This accomplished I think it can accomplish a quite a bit. I mean you think about his rookie season season. He played all sixteen games and then he missed seventeen eighteen at the end in the now. He's he's here at the end again so I think it shows that he can get through a season of one relatively healthy. I mean at this point But at the same time it it shows that he can he can carry this football team and be the leader. Were this football team. And and that's that's you carson. Wentz is and that's what works out at about as we as we move forward not only the remainder of the season but You know in the future teacher Sidney Jones and what he did yesterday Lambie zone and everything like that. I mean considering like how far down in his job and everything like that not playing for several weeks I mean what does it say about him to choice the last three weeks it. Yeah I just think it's it's it shows the resiliency of him personally You know because you know a lot has been you know sort of either said or written about about him and his performance in in in the not playing and and all of that and then getting an opportunity to play play here in the last couple of weeks and step in what he's done and and and really made a big plays in big moments and that's again that's who you know We thought all along Sidney Jones is the type of player he is capable of doing and that just that just helps his confidence. You know moving forward and the next time he gets an opportunity to play. You know he just learned from it gains that strength mentally and just becomes you know becomes better. Thank up just how I thought Jason played played. They'd well I thought the offensive line played well as a whole You know there's there's obviously some things I think he is a couple of times he overset get beat inside on a couple of things but you you know I thought overall he played Played played well and did did some really really good things for us At some fortunate on the one penalty on the screen the a big play. But it's going to happen got defender. He turned his back and got a blocked back on that particular play but you know. JP is a veteran warrior and scared to see him in the lineup so she this late in the season two earlier. This is you talk about the importance or carson kind of take what the defense gives him as a change in personnel kind of aided that in that maybe there aren't as many down to address in everything has been Closer yeah I I think about this question a lot is no. It's it's it's kind of who we are as an offense right now right With the personnel. That we have and you know one of the things I think that You're seeing some of the young players from the new faces. Just they're just so eager energetic to be out there playing they wanted they wanNA play. Well they WANNA do the right thing and I think I think from a game plan perspective. We try to keep it as simple as we can't you know we're not moving pieces around so those guys can just line up and play fast. I think from a quarterback we're back standpoint knowing where they're going to be an aiding with communication through throughout the game on you know And then obviously during the week But these guys you know these guys are there busting their tail for Carson in Carson. It is trusting them and giving them every opportunity to to to to make place Early in the game. You know with with Robert Davis he saw with JJ obviously greg throughout the course of the game And you know Dallas you you know. He played probably his best game of his career. And things like that. So I just all everything. Just kinda comes together for the quarterback. We're back in obviously. He's the leader and has to rally these guys to to perform and you see the trust factor with the with all those guys like your best when you guys are WanNa dog you have to blue solve with carson going down two thousand Seventeen neg salt last year again injuries on offense like your messaging pitching it. I think it's yeah I mean I think I think the guy's really respond obviously to adversity. You don't you don't ever want to be in this situation with so many injuries. Listen the way. Our season's gone to respond this late in the year. You love for this to happen. We talked about this before. But you want to. Maybe respond a little bit sooner in the season. But you know I I. I think that you know I listen to me handling the football team and deal I keep it as honest to keep it as transparent as I can hand with the guys in those guys this is. This is where we're at. You know this is. This is who we are less embrace it. You know Let's spend each day getting better and just focus on today and in s kind of in the messaging here down the stretch and and You know Kinda whatever happens happens but we stick together and and and you know trusting each other. Do those types of things because a lot has to happen for a win in the National Football League and up these is guys these guys trust in each other. And that's what that's what it takes. That's what you're seeing right now on guys won't be the underdog Sunday of how do you have. This is not taking the giants team that could want spoiler rival seriously doubting. Just just just put on the film and watch the giants right now and and you know Football team is too good football team and and this the defense that there were playing good defense and they've got lots of young guys in the back end and they're playing really well as well. This is a big defensive line and You know what Daniel Jones did yesterday. You know I mean coming off an injury doing doing those things. So and they've got weapons on offense so I mean look we've we've got a lot on the line I mean we've got the NFC's who got a possible playoffs bottoming. You know what we've done to this point joint doesn't matter yet matters but you know what it's about going to know this week and again putting putting the hard work in the preparation operation into to to try to win a game and its heart but our guys will be up for did that calm Fletcher surgeon on. Did you not listen to Angelo myself conversation. I not and you are not. I wasn't Game he asked the same question. No it wasn't. It wasn't a reaction to our players. Even though that sort of you know obviously that can be an indication for some things but We were wait. I think there was a cowboy also injured alles player at the time so it allowed us to get a couple more Looks on TV and there was a couple of clean. You know in clear looks wanted to make sure I had a clean recovery. You know There was so that along with our players reaction prompted me to throw the play Dogwood. The let's pass interference booth review that. That's kind of a rare thing you know again game yet lobby. That's unusual. Yeah but you know a lot of times. They'RE GONNA they're gonNA look at those things as as we kinda study on and look throughout the course not only are games but league wide in those situations in its inside of two minutes so they get a chance the the booth gets a chance to stop the game and look at those up to make sure that You know everything was clean but even from our perspective in in what we saw live and then what we saw on the review that there really wasn't enough Both guys were sort of jockeying for position in just a great play by Sydney. The I did hear your explanation for why you didn't run a quarterback's Nicholas third and fourth in what is for staff had lane in play. Would it changed the khaki your calculation now now again this is this is another big front. Big Tackles type fronts on third down one fourth in one situation nations. It was something we studied during the week. I mean listen we had plays in for. QB sneak plays and all that are built into the game plan and all that but just at that time knowing that you know Dallas does play a little bit more zone coverage from the primer and we had a guy there. We just got edged begun inched consistency. The defense has played a lot of top running backs and aside from seeking in the first game. You've done a decent job of this guy's Dan Jones in Green Bay. At and whoever else Barton. I what is what has been the key through your defense assist to do that because these guys gets everybody else's Bugai's this year. Yeah I you know obviously you know. Our style defense were penetrating style valid fence delight and they get up the field in our two tackles taken. A Lotta double teams flex gets a lot of double teams You know whether Tim he's in there Russia's in there they get a lot of double team so it Kinda freeze up our ends a little bit in our linebackers to run and flow and and fill gaps are corners. Have done a great job of Of coming up in supporting the Ron R.. SAFETIES in the box. It's a lot of moving parts there but That's one of the things that that has really affected the run game. It's just penetration From our front this week. So what are the key. Yeah I mean it's gotta be the same you know it's gotTa would be the same you know we we gotta gotTa Kinda duplicate what we've done the last couple of weeks to hold Dallas in Zeke to two fifty fifty four yards of rushing. Offense is my hat's off to those guys because they they pride themselves one in stopping the rush and you know you can do that. It gives as you chance and this is another another opportunity another great test coming up this weekend other injuries town where so so vain the two corners the bills. Jj Douse so lane lanes improving. He's he's more day to day. We'll see gotta get him on. Land got to get them to Ron and see where he's he's out the ankle but he's he's he's improving Jj Actually. I'm waiting on. He's going to have another test result tomorrow but should be fine. Nothing nothing too you. Serious there I would I would expect Darby is the one that's GONNA probably He's a little more senior pregnant miss atop Arby's Arby's Arby's is a little bit more serious And his his he's probably GonNa Miss Minnesota and there was one more mills mills. His you know his his ankle and tough guy. Tough kid in a finishing the game. Obviously but E- e- is going to be day to day. It's right now. He's you know he's hurting today. But we'll see as the week goes on and progressive. So is there any source lanier sitting in. Yeah I be right now. It'd be result you know going forward. You've never had a a guys versatile is via here. Sorry for right here. I never had a guy skillset. We talk on out while Smith's arse of the garden state. Yes czar team. What is what does that? Give us a play caller to have that flexibility. A different kind of guy who can do juicery different things. A lot of different places to open up a lot of things it does You know it allows us to to move him around by formation my play conceptually whatever. We're trying to get done same with Boston. A little bit But the miles and then and in protection Understanding on third down you know blitz protection and how. He's improved there. So yeah it gives you a little more flexibility You know to do that with him. His skill set and What a what a tremendous game he played again yesterday But but Everything I think we've seen from miles up to this. Point is is what we expected of him and and he just disagreed breath. Hold on. 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At the Podium: Lurie & Doug Part II (NFL Annual Meeting)

Bleeding Green Nation

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At the Podium: Lurie & Doug Part II (NFL Annual Meeting)

"Hey listeners we're in the heat of one of the greatest sports events of the year. You guessed it March madness. And the best place to stay on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage CBS sports HQ, what is CVS forte JR. Q. It is the free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans. Just like you from nonstop highlights to news and analysis. CBS sports HQ got you covered checkout. CBS sports HQ. It is always on always free not to pay a subscription fee or have an expensive cable package. Download the CBS sports app on your phone fire TV Roku or apple TV start watching today. welcome into at the podium. It's another NFL annual meeting addition brought to you by the fine, folks and SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host Michael kissed while my work at bleeding green nation dot com. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL, vets K, I S T. So as I already alluded to this day continuation of the last at the podium, the first edition was released last week, and it featured Howie Roseman, and then part one of Doug Peterson sit down with the media today, we have Jeffrey Laurie talking on a range of topics including the rule changes and proposals also digs into some Carson Wentz question and answers, then as promised it's part two of Doug Peterson chat with reporters. More on Wentz from him among other topics. I'll take a brief moment to congratulate and thank all of you for helping bleeding. Green reached new heights over the weekend on Saturday. We hit twenty fourth in apple podcasts. Sports and wreck podcast rankings, which is accused. Accomplishment, all of this five star ratings and reviews really help us get there. We cannot. Thank you enough. All right. Let's not stand on ceremony. Let's go to the podium. Yeah. Start with a few things and open it up to questions. Number one, just because we just rebel though, competent something I've hoped we could accomplish Shafi years, which is to expand the replay system. It's always hard to get twenty four votes. But I think we we really really worked at it. And. For me. Personally, what it really relates to is the integrity of the game. The the largest plays in the game. That are difference makers typically are defensive pass interference and offense of pass interference. There's others as well. But those two are incredibly important, and we've never been able to challenge those we've never been able to have a system where in the final minutes of a game or a half their auto medically potentially changed or studied. It's the chances of having a game changing mistake are minimized if you can at least, you know, challenge it or have New York ending ending up challenging it. So it's I think it's just you know, it's it's something important. And for me, we deal in a sport. That's we love our fans and all of us are incredibly passionate, we invest so much blood, sweat and tears and to have a key game. Whether it's a playoff game or just to any game during the regular season come down to a a human mistake the referees doing the best. They can they're not going to be perfect more. None of us are how should they be? You need a backup system the technology's there. And you know, it's about time and just pleased to to play part in having a a an important change to our system there. It really does come down to integrity for me. Me and. Everything we do. Whether it's running an NFL team or the rules. We create or our vision for how team should be in the community or in the country. All boils down to integrity. And anyway. Number one, really happy that evolved. Number two is pleased to see some things with the NFL in terms of we've made a lot of rule changes the last few years to improve health and safety. And we're starting to cease finally some of the real advantages in some of those rules and acquit -ment and data analysis to create better sneaker, better rock leads and all that kind of stuff, and you know, to have a significant drop in concussions was at twenty nine percent drop in concussion since last year. Forty five percent fewer games missed by quarterbacks. Those are big deals. That's really important. It's something that it's one year. And we've got a really stay at it. We've got to enforce those rules. You know, sometimes people critical of how we enforce the rules. We need to enforce those rules to maintain that level of safety and even get safer and our athletes deserve it. Our kids deserve in terms of. Pop Warner and high school junior high and everything we've got to stay on that and integrity and safety to huge priorities of of mine, and I'm really happy were heading in that direction to me. The biggest news in the NFL the past year is we have quite a few exciting young quarterbacks. That is the biggest change in the NFL. We're lucky to have one of them. And it's it's really we always said that the the scarce scarcest position. And the most important position is quarterback. And we're starting to see the evolution of terrific college quarterbacks having great success in the pros at an early age boats, while I think that's why TV ratings are way up and it's crucial. You know? We're also seeing another interesting trend which is. That quarterbacks who are terrific quarterbacks can play into their forties. And that that bodes well for all these young guys that are coming into the league. And starring age twenty three twenty four twenty five MVP level seasons. Carson last year before Mahomes this year and unbelievable. There's a chance that these kind of guys can you know, play until they're forty. So it's amazing to watch. Drew Tom still play at the level. They do is incredible. Just a few more things and you'll you'll have plenty time progresses. I think one of the other things maybe all of us are used to it. In terms of the eagles culture in Philadelphia. We've always kind of had an approach where the players are partners. And we do so many things together from community work social Justice initiatives this past year, but we have a philosophy that the culture we wanted develop in. We have is a very close relationship with our players. I'm seeing across the NFL now. And it's really it's it's it's really great. See it. I talked to other owners that are having a very comparable such culture and situation with their teams and working together. We're we're in such a polarized society. Today, you know, incredibly polarized society that if you can have football team and its players as a partner. Ship. You can really make a difference. And it's it's a great example. I think in society that you can work together on things, and you don't need to have a polarized position. And. We can so many great things together if we work together. And that's that's another thing. I mentioned TD popularity. It's actually pretty remarkable nineteen of the top twenty shows on television or NFL games. Not surprising to all of us because we love the sport. But it's it's pretty remarkable. And and again, I do credit to the quarterback play and the competitiveness of the games. And a lot of the rules that have created dynamic offenses. And I think it's what fans want and we have a lot of offense of playmakers, and coaches that are really bright were lucky to have a head coach like that. And doug. And anyway, that's. NFL wise, equals wise, you know, I'm just very excited for twenty nineteen. We've we've only finished the pass a few weeks ago, but very excited for every aspect of twenty nineteen just really impressed by Doug and his coaching staff. To follow winning Super Bowl with some ups and downs of the past season and remaining so poise even keeled focused dynamic and just as impressive as the year. We won the Super Bowl last year. So very police with that Howie how he has his dynamic creative. Smart. I think we all know that and he surrounded himself with terrific front office staff, and I'm lucky to have all these really terrific people on our football operations side. Our players incredible resilience excellent locker room impressive people in the community and a terrific young quarterback and leader in Carson just everything you'd ever want. So, you know, I think our future is very bright. I were we certainly have a philosophy of in the present trying to win another championship. And at the same time, not sacrificing the future in in any significant way. So it can be done. And I think that's what we've been doing the last few years, and it's gonna continue that way where we're going to be aggressive for the present. We think we can compete at the very highest level twenty nineteen and at the same time plan for twenty twenty twenty twenty one and be as good a football team as we can be. So that's kind of you didn't even give me a chance to say ask any questions you want. I want to eat less. Howard. Okay. One rule that you submitted was approved. Yes. Okay. The one that you withdrew with Dallas playing every Thursday night bench giving I kind of have an idea. Why you don't like that? Will you tell me why you withdrew that? So they get the play at home every Thursday hand. Okay. So, you know, over the years, we've analyzed this and. Are are are Pinon is that the teams every team nobody wants to play away on Thursday night on a short week. And we always feel it should be balanced schedule in terms of teams that have to play on a short week away. That's all has nothing to do with thanksgiving. It's a great tradition in Detroit, Dallas, whatever, but just on a competitive basis soon as you look at the schedule you wanna know are you away on a short week on Thursday? And you know, we've we've been resilient. We'd be Carolina the year before you know, big game to good teams. But that that was what we were trying to accomplish. And. There wasn't enough support at this point. But you know, you gotta start the conversation somewhere, and on behalf of our fans we start that conversation. This is the kind of paves the way for maybe expanding it down the road. I do. And I listen we've we proposed and we'd like to see happen. And we wanted this for for quite a long time as not just pass interference offensive defense. But roughing the passer and hits to a. Vulnerable receiver. Those those are the affordable player whatever place in the field. Those are the two more for player safety than anything else. We thought kinda hoping we could get that approved this year. But you know, somebody said to me, I know you didn't get that. But you got to walk before you can run will be at it pushing that for for next season the future of franchise car that's gonna be Carson's contract whenever come yet. Because of the magnitude of that deal, or do you want to be more involved in the creation of it in seeing by more involved when you mean like any other contract? You know, listen, they're they're all complicated contracts. We've planned for this for a few years, and all of our planning is in place to be able to the blueprint is always can you find a franchise quarterback? Is he going to be the personality in the leader? And the talent that you want were very very lucky to have somebody like Carson we plan for this. And and that's exactly where we are going forward his injury history last couple years would you feel comfortable with if that happened this off season. Yeah. I mean, I think listen he played his whole rookie year. Durable. And absolutely. He sees. When you draw it up. I think it's exactly what you want highly competitive. Very Taipei personality demanding very smart obsessed with winning and winning big respected by everybody. Just you know, you can't really draw it up much better. The. We're lucky to have him down the benefits of having a quarterback his rookie deal versus getting him locked in. So you don't have more later. Right. I think you always have the benefit when you draft the young player at any position. But particularly quarterback in the first three or four five years. There's no question about it. But I think most organizations plan for the moment when you're going to be spending top dollar for franchise quarterback. So it's it's part of the blueprint. You don't want to not get paid manning Tom Brady, and you hope your own quarterback. So it's what you hope happens. And then you've got a plan very carefully. How are you going to build your roster when you have to pay your quarterback certain amount of money? And so, you know, that's that's gone into it for the last few years and as we project forward, it's it's all there. And that's you know, you just gotta you gotta know where do you wanna be in twenty nineteen where do you wanna be in twenty twenty very detailed construct, your your your resource, allocations and. Your age demographics and all that kind of stuff. And you know, that's what we do every it's year here years ago. You had said that you wanted to get back to the old eight three days where you draft a quarterback either of every year every other year, and there's no need to always years with Nick. And carson. Yes, you kinda want to get back that now that I do I do I think you know, you do offer to absolutely do. I think. I would expect us to you know, if not every year every other year, try to find a quarterback that the can be part, we're very conscious of the culture and that quarterback room. We've had incredible quarterback room with Carson, Nick. And Nate just incredible. It's it's I think one of the reasons they're also. Poised for success. That quarterback that we bring in. Let's say it's the shears drafter next year draft. Needs to be a great fit in that room. So you're not just drafting a player that can be a good backup quarterback, but somebody that can help. The culture with the quarterback who is starting. So you wanna really sort of relationship that's very healthy and help each other. And that that's that's a key part of it too in short term. Yep. Because of the threat traffics in in in recent years. Yup. Really don't have talent. Maybe. What are you expected to rectify that in critical for your? It's a great question absolutely critical. We, you know, basically planet exactly how it's gone in the sense of. We didn't have as many draft picks. We've had some good young players really good young players, but volume of draft picks we believe in volume, we're not. Cocky enough to feel that you're going to draft way better than anybody else. And it's very important to create volume this draft. We're going to have good volumes especially in the top of the draft twos and two fours to go with our one and next year. We're going to have quite a few draft choices. It's very important. So when you look ahead over the next stuff thirteen months, we're going to be adding about twenty draft choices you're going to have some undrafted players make the team. And so you can imagine there's probably going to be about twenty to twenty five players. They're going to be twenty two years old twenty three years old on our roster. And we plan for that. That's to how he's credit in the front office. What they've done is. I think they always balanced this. And they they. Sort of analyze should you draft. Should you sign a player who is a potentially good starting player at age say thirty one or thirty versus a low level starting player who's a lot younger. So when I talked to how it's always about. What is the next two years going to be in that comparison, you know? Yeah. You get the twenty five or twenty six year old and a second contract, but he's a low level starter. You know, his team didn't want him. And you know, maybe he can be a low level starter for us at best or you can get a guy who can make an impact several guys that can make an impact and we're banking on them for one to two years. And so that's resource allocation, it's with the idea of what we're going to be allocating for quarterback and for every other position. And and the notion that we're going to have about twenty odd players. You know, coming onto our roster and the next thirteen months an interesting stat and the league, and we'll be consistent with that. Is that I think sixty five percent of the players in the league are in their first third years. So when you think about that? And where will we be about thirteen months? I bet we're pretty close to that. Draft. Yeah. Years Joe Douglas of influence on drafts. These guys have success there two years ago this time at the addition of Joe one of the best solution segment of how he's done so far and with you to succeed in doing the draft. Yeah, I think Joe is Jost terrific the team that Joe and how he built have been terrific. It's really not one person. You know, I think the longer in this. It's a lot of voices and a lot of trying to figure out you've got a lot of close, call choices. And Joe does a terrific job. And I think we've been fortunate enough to attract a lot of really good people in the whole scouting. And the analytics area. It's it's what I've always wanted. And I think we have a great team. We brought Andrew berry recently, terrific, young executive and. Andy wide, all we've we've got a slew. And we also at some point are gonna lose executives when you're winning. You're gonna lose executives. And I think we're in a great position to be able to to deal with that. But. You know, we don't wanna put a cap on. How many good executives we have in football operations that would be a competitive mistake. So we are always looking for who we think some of the best young talent is in the in the in the country in terms of bring them to us. And it's not like this person this position. And that's that we are constantly wanting to add to it just as we would with the roster. The other people sort of in in that mix. We don't see a lot of Tom Donahoe and Alec Alabi. Can you just kinda surely and what their roles bid and kind of brought valued the operation. Absolutely, tom. You know, it's been a senior adviser for for years for us. He's like, really. I was just a guy who. You can bounce anything off of how Joe everybody uses Tom to bounce ideas off of he's got a, you know, decades of knowledge, and he's just I wouldn't wanna call him a wise old man because he'd get angry at me. But I just did. But he's he's he's he's a great guy and just someone who's a senior adviser and Alec is just very sharp guy who. Combines you know, in a very good way his his analytics and his experience in strategy roster building and all that so to valuable pieces of the organization being he got always kinda done before front. Now more teams are doing if you give a leg up on them. You know, I don't know about a leg up, but we are pretty obsessed with it. And we're always looking to figure out how we can be much better at it. We don't know. We don't really it. Doesn't matter. We have to we have to be the best we can be. And it's not just about mining lots of data. We will collect a lot of data. It's what you do with it. And I think that's the key. You know without revealing any details of what we do. I think it will always be a priority the replay. Yes. Your people in that room that Jason Garrett spoke to the room and a pretty influential folks in there, but also your name came out address room. And what was the gist of what you said baby got crossed the way right now. The gist of what I said was I just think that integrity is the most important thing, we're dealing in the National Football League, it has to be along with safety health and safety the two most important things that we deal with and have to prioritize and to me I directly link. Utilization of technology and backing up humans human error at times with creating outcomes that at least are. Your best attempt at getting it. Right. And I always feel the NFL should be branded as an arbiter of truth. You know people rely on us for for accuracy. It's never gonna be one hundred percent it's impossible for human. But we have the capabilities. So my my talk with the with the owners, and the general managers, all the coaches executives. There were was much more philosophical about integrity and making sure that we didn't leave today until we solve the issues of expanding replay in in the way, we did. Like orey? Yeah. What was your feeling? The likelihood of getting something passed. You know, I I was worried about it. I said to somebody. I don't care if we have to say midnight. I want to get this done. And we owe it if when when you ask, you know, we're we're an entertainment company where a football company were a football league, you're asking people to devote, their heart and soul. You're asking your players, your coaches and your fans to devote ourselves, our heart and soul to it. It's not just your manufacturing shoes. And if you're asking people to deliver their emotions to the product that you're presenting then you owe it to everybody that you're presenting it to to be as accurate as humanly possible. And that's. That's just has to be that way. And I hope we can continue to do that just as a little backdrop. I never really talked about this before. But. Absa ported every proposal to expand reply for the last decade. Bill Belichick had a proposal to expanded to multiple play any play and not to create more challenges limited to the three challenges. You know, if you're right with two and you get a third, but why not try to basically, correct anything? And I I've always voted for that. But this was a start. And I think a really really good start. Responsible. Can you explain that have while you brought it up which really talking about on the replay expansion of replay. And there wasn't there wasn't. There was subset that had to do with the penalties called on touched hours for in place. That was that was just an ad on with our main thrust was expanding replay getting offense of defensive pass interference and player safety violations on it. One added wrinkle we put in was an guiding incorporated into this rule change was that if you score and its Noah five similar to Dallas Goddard's touchdown in Dallas by offensive passive Fearance. That's challengeable and pretty confident that if we challenged that it would have been reversed has spot. History. Yes. How was how challenging was it to see him leave in a personal spec? The on on is spy his yes, it's a great question. So Nick as you all know. Exceptional person, MS no understanding exceptional person. And it was hard. We went through every alternative we could think of as an organization on how to proceed here really in the end. I think. Nick really did want to have a team to to take control of and be the guy. He just come off winning Super Bowl almost taking us back to the Super Bowl. And. We know him. So well, we're so close to him. I think we just felt like this is what he wanted and. Wouldn't have made sense to franchise, Nick. I just wouldn't have been the right thing to do. And you know, he's going to be he's a legend in Philadelphia. He will always be he's he's a part of our family forever. And we're all really close to him. And he and Carson to accept their different and so- terrific both of them, and they both I think benefited from each other in so many ways and. It was just a great example of of a player we all loved and doing the right thing and and supporting him with other teams. I mean, I would get asked. You know, what what's Nick like Kenny can be dynamic for anyone? But you and all that. And you know, I just think it's part of our role my role. I take it personally to absolutely be honest and. Let people know how wonderful. He is. What a great leader is. And terrific quarterback. Decision to. We're not gonna franchise. It was that that decision. It was you know, I would say certainly how I had long discussions about it. And we thought the sooner we do it the better because we wanted to give Nick every opportunity to. Be in the best possible situation. And not have a team not, you know, worry that we were going to attend keep them and not have the opportunity to start. Because there aren't that many opportunities. We were also to be honest about it hoping that the he didn't end up with giants or the Redskins that was part of it. We were very confident that he was going to play for Jacksonville. If you mentioned and the job he did this past season. Yeah. Could you expand on that? And they'll talk about the growth you've seen from him since game coach. Yeah. I mean, really he continues to impress a continues to grow just just tremendous respect from his fellow coaches and the players that you know, as an owner. That's what you look for. I. I you know, I heard that one of the research, you know, I did. And how he did with Doug on Doug was with Andy, and they had a appear where they lost six or seven games in Kansas City one year, he said the most resilient guy on the coaching staff by far Doug Peterson never forgot that. I thought of last year when we were struggling bit incredibly poised and optimistic and dealing with you know, ways to straighten out the team and get everybody and always brings people together. He has a dynamic to always bring people together. Nobody's pointing fingers. No one's blaming sluggish offense or a special teams is not doing as well or defense. Nothing like that doesn't let it happen. And. Just you know, what can I say, very, very impressive and. Terrific outta work with and I think surrounds himself with really good people and players around the league have a real good idea of you know, what Doug all about genuine genuine and in today's world. I don't care what business you're in. When you're genuine when human when you're on est. And you have integrity gets back to that word integrity. It's powerful. It's very powerful. Thanksgiving proposal, again, you mentioned that you withdrew because it didn't have enough support, you know, with some of the back from teams aside from Dallas Detroit on a wedded what they want. You know, what all we heard? From was the competition committee said there wasn't there wasn't enough support. So we just it was meant really to start to analyze the impact of a waether stay short week games. And should that be spread evenly? It was it was just a it was a manner of doing that it wasn't focused on the teams that were involved. It was it's it's we do a lot of data analysis of of schedules and things like that and short weeks because you're gonna try to prepare recover and all those kind of things and one of the things that came up with the difficulty sometimes of short weeks on Thursdays away. I mean it's Thursday, but they always play his home that your biggest issue. Not that they play. Yeah. That's that's that's the simulation. Haven't advantage over every team in the NFC? Correct. Correct. You look. I would Michael would like to change over time. We we talked a lot to the competition committee about changing over time. There's a lot of ways to do it personally. I don't like the shortened overtime in the regular season. Because I think it gives even more value to the winner of the coin toss. So if you get the ball first, and you have a seven minute drive or nine minute drive. That's taking up seventy to ninety percent of the time period of a regular season overtime now. It makes no sense to me someday. I hope we can get that changed. And the, you know, there's a lot of ways I think another possibility is try to avoid the kind the coin toss on have other mechanisms one of the things I floated was to the the team that scores. The most touchdowns has the advantage of getting the ball. I often it'll be a tie. But those times when you score more touchdowns reward that you know, just you want to avoid a coin toss as best. You can. I think. Ago. Carson mentioned was obviously. Yes, since then said come back surgery on facts injury. There was questions of his personality. How do you? How do you in personality in how he's Tinder rebound strokes? Yeah. I mean, I Carson is as I said before when you write it up. It's exactly how you hope. I think we all love very intense type a driven quarterbacks and very talented. And he's he's a terrific leader. He's from day one on that team. Every position every player, I've talked to and we've all talked to are sort of just impressive young, man. Very impressive young, man. And that's that's Carson very impressive young men different personality than Nick. That's great. That's great. We had the benefit of two outstanding personalities, but Carson is kind of the way draw up. Layer tracking data that was made available help al-jabah. Did you find that as an organization also like to see that data via released to kind of the public sphere as well? Great question show. I we make terrific use of it. I told you a few years ago. I thought it was a very important aspect. Week. We use it as best we can which is a lot. I would like to see almost all data. In the public to the public to the fans, and I think that's where we're headed. It's you know, as we head towards more legalized gambling towards more online betting, whatever it's going to be there's going to be increased utilization of data for the casual fan and for the avid fan, and I'm all for releasing much data's pas not medical data. That's that's a whole other other question. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I think the more informed we can all be an understand strategies through data player valuations through data. It's a tool that's all. It is tool, but it's a very very valuable to. Gnawed on those traits. He talked about Carson site. They our United and they've liked by one story. Did you have any conversations with him? They new great not. Well, not at all. He's the wonderful thing about Carson. He's humble, he's smart. He's got a feel for. Every type of person in the building. He's is nice to janitor as he is to his left tackle, you know. He's just one of these guys this again, getting back to high integrity, genuine guy and a regular guy and. You know, you just you hope if you finally find if you find very talented quarterback that he has those characteristics. And we're lucky to have that. So that was Jeffrey Loria peace after the break we'll have Doug Peterson part two from the NFL annual meeting here on bleeding green nation. Get your brackets ready. March madness is here and the best places they on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage. CBS sports HQ CBS sports HQ is a free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans just like you from nonstop highlights to news and analysis. CBS sports HQ has got you covered by cutting through the noise of hot takes fake debates to get smart analysis, and helpful highlights for your fantasy teams and beyond checkout. CBS sports HQ. It's always on an always free. No need to pay subscription fee or have an expensive cable pack. Download the CBS sports app on your phone fire TV Roku or apple TV to start watching today. Yeah. I think it's league-wide college football. You know, a lot of spread offices. You know, I, you know, some offenses are gonna run on a tight end sets. So I look at that we have to. More officers are going to be eleven personnel. So take some of that, obviously college they're their formations to be a little different than ours. Tackles recovered all that stuff, but. Which we can't obviously. Play design agit ways, you know, RPO gay those are all things again as we study, these these coaches. Yeah, you gotta find creative ways to to motivate. The gotta find creative ways to utilize your time in the springs doesn't get Monday and monotonous doing the same thing over and over. So there's gonna be there's gonna be a couple of changes, not not major things but things with the schedule. We're gonna do little bit differently. Just try to flip especially in phase, really face three. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to implement like offense in the way room, I defensive meet, and then they'll flip, you know. And and do some things creative that way, then we all kind of come together for special teams and hit or walk throughs and practice and all this kind of stuff I want I want to I'm exploring right now. Some ways to really maximize OT practices those ten practices. We get and really do dive into more situational started two years ago with that got the little better last year. But I wanna really dive into a lot of the situation stuff in OJ's and prepare players for those opportunities in game. So those are all things are looking at who for well. You know? Look, we drafted Carson for reason talented be started. You know faces franchise franchise quarterback all of that. And obviously we want the position. So we went out with chase Danu verse year Nick last two years to veteran quarterbacks and then we've had a date. Then listen, you get to a point where some level at some what Nick is done as as giving Nick opportunity. You started and me personally, I didn't wanna hold it back from that. I feel I'm so excited for Nick, you know, opportunity go play the franchise organization because we've got so much confidence. Carson, and that's that's that's the battle. You know? That's a struggle because we've got a great quarterback in Carson. And yet we understand. And appreciate what Nick is done for our our team organization for me personally. And then it gives them opportunity to secure family financial their lives and go play. So for me, it was those tough decisions. But at the same time. I'm excited for for both quarterbacks. Do you worry about Carson deal? The handle that kind of pressure next incident. I go back to when I was in Green Bay. And and when I had a chance to go in I'm not far, but I couldn't read for reform reform. Doug Peterson Peterson Carson Winston Carson Carson's fide. Carson just go play. Carson just just lead our football team do things he's done. And I don't worry about that. Because if we start thinking that way, we start thinking about the end result and not the process that work. We've lost her mind. He. Who? That rusher that voted. I think you'd have to ask him that. Because he was having a really good year, you know, before the injury. And I think that's question that only he can answer love the way he works in the in the building early. He's prepared. You know, he studies of the way he practices now. Not only when he when he's in the drill. But off to the side is working with guys. This the way he leads our football team, you know, and and he's got to continue to do that just be because of his personality show like everybody else, and who well, I go back days. Green bay. We had less leaving titans. Big rebate. A lot of the so called west coast office. In tempe. I've guys athletic rape matchups. We feel like Zagreb's right now the east easily kogo health guy. Peter football team is dynamic field added Tallus last year. So it just a low body guys. Right from the quarterback. Standpoint guys open athlete. Just so tight make sure as quarterbacks friend tied into meat. I'll tell you. I I love the way Akers he's constantly. He's working on his craft. That's why the vessel will for small. I think everybody could be better team. I could be better coach. I think being a better teammate and just be, you know, maybe a little more suppliers be able to more vulnerable a little more sensible. You know, your community craft developing your skill. But you know, it's it's like you wanna you wanna walk in gross. The I'll talk to, you know, talk to the other side, and that's all part of maturation process in growth process. And you know, it's something you learn through time. I watched it with some of the greatest quarterback I've ever played with author. Dan Marino saw ref. Our guys, you know for them to become better teammates. They they the entire team. And and take taking on that take on that personality. People follow it Carson, Scott that he's got that enemies got his DNA lesser works. Obviously in the situations, married. He's been injured his comeback. It's been a humbling experience is, you know, he's maturing a young, man. At least seeing there. I am. I haven't yet he's coming into his fourth season. Now, he and I are tied together to and you know, if a part of my job is is to help help all all the players on the team become better teammates, and that's part of my job. So I'm looking forward to the season working with him again and get this thing. Yeah. You know, we've seen it in. You know, obviously seen it kind of kind of go scenarios. It is harder. When you're when you're not with your guys like he was a year ago. He was rehabbing and he's not he's not out there. So it's it's hard. But but the more the more now he interjects himself with the team and that that's I talked with salad there. I mean, that's that's what you see, you know, and. It's it is difficult. It is difficult because you wanna be out there with your guys, and you wanna be compete with you guys. And when you're not when you to tune after that article came out with the angry what I didn't even didn't even knowledge didn't even. I didn't even I didn't have to thought he addressed it. Well, I didn't feel the need to talk. Player kidding? I'm excited for Michael. Because one it gives him a chance to to play, you know, and it really be a starter with that what he wanted. He wanted to do they're getting they're getting a great person as well. I mean, he's a good teammate obviously dynamic on the ball field. He's got a lot of lot of gas left in the tank exciting to watch. What did he bring your laundry? Eventually increase in with their this frustration there his words. No, you know, he he's listening his charisma starting and when he came to us, the expectation, and we're always open honest. We rotate a lot of guys of front on the D line. And you know, he was inside he was outside. And of course, you know, we obviously added believe Jackson to take some of that pressure off of him always coming inside. Now this gives him an option. You're the defense in the young secondary seem to really come along at the end of last season in the playoffs. Given the young guys on contracts. Why did you make decisions Donald? Well, I get run was having a great seat. Having a great season last year injury. He's a guy that gives us really coordinating step that spot. And you know, I was excited sided that. He wanted to back then signed us, even though it's deal. I'm excited to to have him back which for to get out there when he's ready, you know, really, solidifies or vision. Earlier. In their kind of the back of the outlet. Now that I think is something we'll look at this spring. I know Jim Corey in orga look at that. And you know, we felt really good. What what craven had done, you know, towards the end of the year as he came on. I mean, you know, he he's tough fiscal their cities another guy that option could be in that mix. So we will store that this ring. I don't have that answer. The reason I say that we don't have you know, the standpoint of a roster. We haven't really put all those pieces together yet. So. We're we're looking to continue to add obviously at value at that spot. And then sort that out now being ills things that we we look at these guys could still play had. Yeah. You want to add youth? Yeah. You definitely that youth. And that's what the draft. Is war? Of course, the development players that we have in our roster now. So there is a balance there. But you guys we brought onto our team. That might be older they can still play, and we can get a lot of we-give reps out of him. And you know to Sean as showed any size of slow down on. That's good. The big personality. How did personality mesh that? You're. Right. I mean, really good. You know, he he was a guy that he he loved to have fun. You know, and in you know. You know, what I love our players to have that sort of freedom on freedom of speech, and sort of express themselves that way, I think it could be healthy for your team. And he did a nice job of that. You know, one of the things that I was proud of with. Gene.

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From the Bleachers #34: The Doug vs. McVay Debate

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From the Bleachers #34: The Doug vs. McVay Debate

"Hey there podcast pals I'm John. STOLNIS. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball season is one hundred and sixty two games long, and there's no way you can watch all those games. So make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze rozier sprout apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP. Just. Bush. Does train. Welcome to from the bleachers I'm your host as always shameless clancy coming to you from the wonderful nation radio podcast. We're. Now before we get to my ransom, my dove mcvay stuff couple of housekeeping notes doing a lot of work on the BG Instagram Account Right. Now, you could follow us at bleeding green on their closing on thirty one hundred followers might be doing some giveaway soon. Tons of eagles content. Every day might be doing some I g livestock pre-game at halftime this week. So definitely give us a follow. Their additionally could fom you my own instagram and twitter page both at shameless clancy. If you're listening to this and you're not follow me on either of those, I, don't know what you're doing. Tons of rate content are a little. I G live show every Thursday Thursday happy hour five thirty PM on. Thursdays. Grab a drink comment. Hang out me top about the eagles top and phillies sports NFL everything in between. Now before we get to again my anger and the job verse mcvay stuff I WanNa make a point I saw on twitter this morning, it was kind of a breakdown of each. NFL teams, social media twitter account. So under this breakdown, twenty, three teams out of the thirty to follow every other NFL team on their twitter account three teams don't follow any other teams, the Ravens, the colts, our beloved eagles I love the pettiness it's such a Philadelphia thing a big f you to everyone. We don't care about you. We're from Philly we don't. Care I love it, and that was kind of a bright spot of my day I write about my my newsletter this morning. If you don't, you're listening to this, you'd like my podcast like my tweets out my newsletter featuring on dot com backslash shameless understood clancy talking about how upset Him about the Jalen hurts picking relation to how poor the offensive line death is. Got Off to a terrible start. But seeing that little bit of pettiness that little bit of Quintessential Philadelphia Nece. GimMe a spark maybe some hope for this weekend, not as Sunday Sunday. embarrassed. There are a few times in my life. I am truly embarrassed to be a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles. If you remember last season after that Miami, dolphins debacle down in Florida I said I was the most embarrassed ever been been as an eagles fan now that'd be true. That was bad. But Sunday was rough man I was embarrassed to even be Philadelphia, me clancy sang when Baresi? From philly that's how I felt Sunday the first twenty eight minutes Werner von I thought we were going to Super Bowl Carson Wentz tilt is good as he ever did mow down the field taking shots deep Jalen rigor who looked on that one play great freed up on another pass car overthrew him. Look Great on that thirty four YARD TOUCHDOWN STRIKE DALLAS. Got A beautiful throw from Carson. And then he throws that out rail comeback route. And the game shifts there forever, and that could be a move that not only shifted that game. It's shifted the eagles entire season where the bottom just came out after that, that's going to be one of those games that we're talking about. Forever I'm going to be in my forties sit on the beach down to the Jersey shore drilling. Nice like Beer Seltzer whatever to Robert Seltzer love those and be relaxing and have a nice eagles bucket hat on hiding my ball spots shortly bald by then and I'm GonNa Think About Week One, twenty, twenty I'm going to get pissed off in. It's GonNa ruin my day. That's GonNa Happen, it's a guarantee. This is going to be one of the Joe Web game. The map ranking it's GonNa live in infamy it's the worst eagles regular season wall since Carolina and twenty eighteen eagles fluids seventeen in fourth quarter lead the cabin panthers it's the worst instead it's were season opener since two, thousand, fifteen obviously it's the first may lost in the season opens in two thousand fifteen that's obvious but that was the beginning of the end of the Chip Era Sam? Bradford comes in after that much preseason. the eagles. You don't huge disappointment on Monday night football in Atlanta against the Falcons he go. Alonzo has crazy reception, but ultimately defeat for the eagles and again the beginning of the end for Chip Kelly. Now, this isn't the beginning of the for Doug Peterson, but it was Rothman that just shouldn't happen good teams don't do that, and the only logical conclusion you could do is the eagles aren't a great football team. Great teams don't do that they were in a position to. Wipe the floor with the team. It should have been a blowout. They should have gotten points on that drive gone up twenty nothing going into halftime. Now go down seventeen seven, give them some momentum and they go and halftime get themselves together in the eagles don't score another point. JAKE LA MR field goal. Jake. Gallard shortness of you three yard field goal was going to happen. That's the worst loss the season go that could that could be the season that could be the entire season right there on that one throw from whence and he played her horrible. That was his one of his two or three worst games. He's ever had unacceptable play. The oil is in shambles. The play call from Doug sucked on the biggest doug homer alive in the play con sucked besides that I think is worst game was twenty eighteen in New Orleans the team had no chance of winning that game for for the Eagles should have won legitimately had a chance to win again should have been a blowout victory, unacceptable cars and unacceptable I had a rough Sunday night after that just. While wing and self pity like no other. No, it hurt. It hurt I've had that pit in my stomach that feeling that that hurt. That I've had since the since that interception lasts thirty two minutes of that game has not left me since then maybe Sunday morning I'm sitting on a most of you know e. Nice scrapbooking cheese. On to Robert Seltzer or. Just get myself back into the Sunday Mojo maybe that pain will subsidize a little bit and I. Hope it will because you know we have a big game coming up. This is again we thought yes we thought Sunday was a do or die after you know Carson Wentz play the way did they go down to it's over it's over over. My whole mantra with the Eagles is give me to December. What that means is you know suspend my disbelief. Let me think that this is a playoff team. Let me think is a team that can make some noise and the NFC playoffs maybe even gone super bowl run to December. Get me to there I can't. And the haven't in twenty sixteen but a fall where October November and I know the eagles are out of it and can't make the playoffs I can't deal with that mentally I just can't. Some other people out there listening can agree get me to the end of the season. Carry me through the fall months get me to December. Let's have a chance at this thing. Let's went on Sunday. Let's get back to where we were. You know game script I fifteen plays at the game. Carson was awesome. Doug play comm was awesome. But Doug goes into five seven step drops play action bomb these long developing plays where the offensive line can't handle. That could use more draw screenplays the Corey Clement Boston. Scott. Even Jason Lane. Quick passes over the middle to you're too talented, quite towns at tight ends. Anything else rollouts. They had one rodel game, one rollout all this you know rich scandal, relative puff pieces all summer and they run one rollout, the Kyle Shanahan acolyte discipline disciple rich Ganger Garoppolo in the coaching brain trust now one role unacceptable. That's where Carson is best people say, Oh, I don't like. Carson moving around that's talking about him doing his Eugenie antics spinning around duck and defenders. Trying to make something out of nothing, and then sometimes you know comes with the territory those come to big losses sometimes Saxon that in that case on Sonny Carson take took some sacks that you just cannot take on third down and you know change the entire album of the game, but there's a difference between that and design rollouts sprinting and sprint laugh play action. Plays bootlegs Carson's be doing that game on the run game get them moving uses athleticism not saying he's going to go out and take fifteen yard keeper. I'm not asking for that. I want on roll out it'd be looking downfield a Jalen Sean Jackson you know someone in Zach on on this slot, the Aslan Round dowse Qatar in the middle of the field. There should be often for once rolling out in there just weren't on Sunday and I don't know why. Doug blame the lack of success on I. Lack of success on first down. Why not call a rollout on first down if you wanted some success on first down is illegal to run rollouts on first down was there this memo that Roger Goodell sent all NFL teams this season and Doug Peterson is the only one who read it That rollouts. On first down, give that team in the media fifteen penalty thirty penalty. Why can't you do overall on first down then Doug. Immunised. Semper went on Sunday Roll Roll. Car snout get him away from Aaron Donald who is going to eat nate hair big alive looks like hair big is going to start. Once again at right guard I don't know about that on Jason Kelsey who is a phenomenal center borderline hall of Famer but. Aaron Donald. got some size on our friend Jason Calcium. Get went through and get him away from the pocket get him outside the pocket them away from Aaron, Donald? That's what needs to be done on Sunday and you know that's what I'm hoping for. I'm not asking for a blowout victory in Washington top on the podcast last week. Last week. I'm just asking for win can be ugly Twenty One, twenty, sixteen, Fifteen, something disgusting. I'll take it. We need we need a win in the worst way. As taking back Sunday, would say in worst. Baseball truly it is awful. I'm phillies writer Justin clue join me every week along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier, and Dr. Trevor Strunk as we discussed all the ways, the phillies of hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical anecdotes and rar emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty innings subscribed to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stat stat stats. Together, we'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us. SP Nation presents the SP nation NFL show five weekday episodes to get you through the grind of the NFL season. With your favorite espy nation community leaders you'll get reactions to what happened on Sunday film breakdowns fearless takes local expert analysis fantasy football advice, and so much more. There's a little something for everyone on the SP nation NFL show be sure to subscribe on Apple podcasts. So your favorite podcast APP to be sure you don't miss a single episode. I don't get in a lot of national NFL arguments, but there is one just because. Guy Eagles egocentric guy. But now got something ticket this year it's hard to follow the NFL sometimes when no half the games amount tailgating and then into the stadium, I miss a lot of the four o'clock games sometimes in sleepy after the game when over there drunk you know miss this Sunday night games when have worked don't want to stay up on money but now. As you guys know got laid off my day job lot more time for freelance work and a lot more time to watch football since fans aren't allowed in the stadium. So I'm sure I'll get some more NFL. National. Arguments this year but one I always partaken is Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVeigh vs Philadelphia Eagles Coach Super Bowl. Champion Philadelphia Hero Doug, Peterson. I'm not super active on twitter about this week after the demoralizing loss on. Sunday but oh boy. Oh boy if the eagles had one on Sunday and they were WanNa know going again to Philly first home game against McVeigh in the Rams at WanNa know I would be cockiest. Sob a love. If you think obnoxious unbearable right now and usually you would have no idea to be speaking on twitter this week instagram again follow bleeding green instagram hatching was under clancy on Instagram I'd be so cocky and I just can't do it right Now, if they win obviously, GonNa, go into that you sean mcvay mode no Strut Mutt stuff getting carried away, get in fights with random rams fans getting blocked by national NFL writers from bleacher reporter, PF effort whatever the athletic they went on. Sunday I'm going to be young to get my swagger back but right now I can't do that publicly can talk crap on mcvay they are want to know the eagles are one after demoralizing loss as I said. Of the day I'm taking Doug. Peterson, eleven times out of ten against show. Now let me let me give you a proposition and twenty seventeen eagles made the superbowl. They won the Super Bowl and they beat the New England patriots by score free one thirty third. Against the greatest defensive mine of all time the greatest coach of all time Doug. Peterson. With a backup quarterback who's played about ten good quarters last five years ten gophers football scored forty one points with that backup quarterback Nick foles. against. The Greatest Defensive Mind of all time unbelievable for forms just. Worldly the very next year, Sean McVeigh going up against those say New England patriots, that same defensive my mets seen coach and Bill Belichick they that offense worth three points in thirteen to three laws against the same exact teams him exact defensive scheme in coach. So the year before Doug Peterson scored forty one points next year Sean mcvay scored three points and the Super Bowl on the biggest stage you're gonNa tell me Sean McVeigh's a better coach Doug Peterson I get in fights with Ram San on all the tender that's your only argument. It reminds me of that one Jason Seagal movie with their Art Lebron verse in verse. Michael. Jordan the kids saying Oh six rings. The only argument gotten like that's the only argument I need. That's the only argument I need forty one to thirty, three, verse thirteen, the three and the biggest stage and all of Sports Sean. mcvay scored three points against the New England Patriots against that very same team. Doug. Peterson scored forty one points with a backup quarterback who has sucked the rest of his NFL career since then are you telling me? Outside, of Philadelphia, everywhere Nick Foles has gone. He turned back into a Pumpkin and why because of Doug Peterson in his coaching, his play calling. Doug gets his guys to play through adversity. I don't know if the eagles have had their backs up against the wall quite they have right now in the Peterson error it's bad. It's bad. That was again that was one of Carson's worst games. The offense and line is in shambles. It was just week one it was midseason form for Philadelphia sports injuries I'm cursed. So desensitized the sports injuries being gigantic sixers an eagles fan I hate the sixers. Gigantic sixers fan. As you know I don't know what's in the water here. Philadelphia has you know the greatest medical colleges, any collection of in the entire world, and somehow these two teams have medical gavel to gavel. Were just nothing makes sense injury after injury. Prevention measures they don't work. I don't know what's happening. It does not happen to other teams. It does not happen in other cities I do not get but doug has been at his best when his back is up against the wall say what you want about him as a person playcalling whatever he handles adversity well, and twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen doug fakes a ton of adversity. He turned the tide both times against Shaw McVeigh in the Los Angeles Rams. Twenty seventeen as we know the eagles go to the l a Coliseum Carson Tears ACL. During the Game Eagles, hang on to win despite knowing Carson hurt not knowing how long it was going to be not knowing what type of injury is this this fog this cloud hanging over the Eagle side of the field and the Eagles still pull that victory clinched division for the first time. Since twenty thirteen, it Carson is announced. He's out for the year alter and the Nicole show from the eagles don't look back they win the super bowl by square footage to thirty three if you haven't caught up by color on that by now. Twenty team effort that devastating overtime loss in. Week Blake men. Screwed the eagles. When that opening kickoff fumble, he should be in jail I'm sorry AIKMAN Referee should be locked in a cell somewhere the eagles were six and seven after a terrible terrible loss. Again, I'm talking about this past week as a terrible loss that's up for me for one of the worst eagles losses in recent memory. Eagles are six and seven the coliseum against a great steam, a team that has a high powered offense. Nichols making his first start since week two with Carson injured with broken bones back something insane that only happens to Carson Winston equals the birds hang on thirty, two, twenty, three, they look spectacular and often they scored thirty points against trump bag in his ramps. He couldn't again tool Doug Peterson with a backup quarterback at the helm and what happened to those eagles. They won the last three games of the regular season against the rams against the Texans and against the former Washington football team they were called previously. Washington redacted 's the go on and win a wild card playoff game. Final Drive Nick foles touch on a golden tate before narrowly. Upsetting New Orleans Saints on Division around down in the world's Doug Peterson is faced adversity as I said, maybe more so than any coach I can remember. In each and every time when people the doubters are out when people are counting him out the boo birds out everyone's Chirpin Doug. It gets it together. No one gets together quite like Doug Carson, campaigning works right now. Again, we're going Aaron Donald and we need to change up the playbook more rollouts carson play action quick quick throws the arts and got in the middle of field take some shots when you can on those role, it's down the field jalen regular and the Shaun Jackson. John Hi my guy, John Howard Tower terrible terrible the NFL debut. It hurt me as someone who's been hyping him up all season gas him up. About John Hightower we need a win in the worst way, but the eagles are to now against Sean mcvay and the Rams Doug Peterson is to know against Sean mcvay in the rams and as much as I'm hurting about this, he team much is on this dissatisfied pessimistic word. The season is already over that gut feeling in your stomach really saying the eagles are GONNA lose eagles. Lose lose. It's the opposite now where the my normal reaction is thinking the eagles are GonNa lose this game. Am I gut? In my soul in my soul I can't see Doug Peterson losing their Sean mcvay. I don't care it just not going to happen. I can happen. It can be an ugly when it can be discussing when they win by one point. Two points, it does not matter I cannot see Doug Peterson lose in Sean mcvay the eagles had their backs up against the wall and no one is quite better than Doug. Peterson with his back up against the wall I'm ready for Sunday already I taught myself. And the last nine, thousand, nine minutes. I've talked myself into a win on Sunday. That's how crazy am that's how insane am that's how confident and Doug Pearson I am to get his crap together against Sean McVeigh. The biggest fraud alive I'm confident. Let's get a win on Sunday. This is me shameless clancy follow me on twitter at shameless clancy instagram when the same handle follow the BGN instagram apple-eating green instead of doing a ton of content on there all week specially on Sundays. Let's get this win. We need a win. We cannot go down Owen to it's not acceptable again, not happen. There is no tomorrow. 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BGN Radio #57: Wentz + DeSean = Excitement at OTAs

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BGN Radio #57: Wentz + DeSean = Excitement at OTAs

"You're listening to BGN radio. Why would you listen to any other eagle's nest with John Stolnis and randomly gal? You are listening to BGN radio, your source for the best eagles news and analysis in the game. This is episode fifty seven brought by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding relation. I'm your host Michael kissed followed by work bleeding greenish dot com. Follow me on Twitter at Michael, kissed NFL vets, K. I S T today, I am joined by the man that makes BGN radio. What it is. He is the king-maker over at bleeding GRA nation. He is Brandon league outon. Follow him on Twitter at and gotten Brandon's. How you doing, brother? Mike doing good nother day of eagles practice to talk about. So let's get to it. 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I'm just gonna kick a right back to you. So one more thing before we get to opiate talk organiz team activities on June. Third, I wanna talk about Joe Douglas and it is kind of tied in with OT as because he was there. And apparently the jets are done with a round of interviews and they had not made a higher yet. What was Joe Douglas up to today Bill while he was not wearing jet. Skier, Mike, which is surprising because Mike Lombardi said he wants to leave eagles and maybe that'll happen. You know, I'm not I'm not doubting that Joe Douglas could leave. He had his interview, apparently they had dinner with the jets on Saturday night in the former. Interview on Sunday. And now the debts interviewed tamp Kelly from the bears. And I think if reports are to be believed media reports. I think that's really the only four candidates, they're talking to Scott Federer from the Seahawks. Terry funds from the saints and then Joe Douglas jam Kelly. So it's possible that they've interviewed all the guys they wanted to see what this isn't they make now. So, maybe as soon as by the time this podcast comes out, though, Dallas will be hired by the jets will see it seems like decisions coming there soon, though. So I guess we'll see one way or the other if Joe Douglas is leaving or not. Yeah. The clock is ticking on that have anything happens between the time that we record in this thing. Gets uploaded, I will definitely throw in update in there for the listeners. But let's talk about some organized team activities that went down today. Monday, June third at novacare complex. I actually want to change it up. Normally we swoon over Carson Wentz for the hurston minutes, and we're still going to do it. At some point there's a reason he starting to get more buzz as we inch closer to the season. But. Wanted to start on the defensive side of the ball from the sounds of it. The defensive backs. There's just out there having fun. And I remember seeing receive Douglas go around with the microphone interviewing players in the locker room including asking a craven LeBlanc. Why the call straps and LeBlanc just like his face lit up. They seem to be like a really tight group. And speaking of quarterbacks just talking about the youth of the group, Ronald Darby, Jalen mills, crave LeBlanc will all be twenty five when the season starts result. Douglas Maddox and city Jones are twenty three even the guys like Jeremiah McKinnon and Josh Hawkins are like twenty five and twenty six respectively with all that youth at the position, you're really hoping that a couple of them can have a serious breakout, and barring injury, like my money is on Sidney Jones who Doug Peterson made a note of today for playing really well I could definitely see it for result. Douglas Peterson also praised him for having a good spring process and even a more established guy like Darby I've always been very high on him. I think he's got legitimate Pro Bowl. Potential and you just hope recover from the it has a full healthy season. Overall, there's a ton of competition in that group and a ton of potential, if you had to guess build G water gun to your head, as a on Burs befriends, as the podcast, do you have a favorite for a breakout candidate from that group based on what you've seen it. Oh, TA's, or just in general. Yes. Good question. I mean do I consider Avantis Mannix breakout player because he had that good rookie season. Last year you need some struggles later in the year. But Vanni manage this makes plays on the ball the coming. That's very a. You can't watch practice and miss onto Mattis tight, well where is he today? No. You're going to see him as he's always gonna make a play on the ball today with a pass break-up on Clayton. Thorson pass two racks Miller, there it was in Miller's hands us about to make nice catch on it. And no incomes of auntie Matic's flying in knocks out of his hand. So that's something you see from him. I think onto Matic's has to be on the field that something we've said in previous OT a recap. That he's just he's makes so much place to not be on the field in some capacity. No matter where he lines up, and he was lining up again in the nickel today as opposed to last week where he was on the outside, and Sidney Jones was back on the outside today and Roussel Douglas the first team defense as well. I love the energy those guys bring and obviously, they're younger position group as you touched on there, Mike. But also a little bit more experienced now, you know, this isn't like a group of rookies like they were, you know, listen you Jones in Roussel Douglas being rookies in two thousand seventeen or Maddox being a rookie last year. These, these guys have some experienced under their belt. And I think that only helps their swagger. They're, they're even more confident than they were before having that NFL experience now. And I like to see that. And it's fun. It's just their fun group to watch a moment that stood out to me in practice today was it's not super consequential but they were doing a special team drill. Where will DeVos's lining up as gunner and it was traced eleven in Jeremiah MacKinnon, I think or someone one of the other defensive backs as. Jammers and they got a good jam honorable scrimmage, and then the whistle blows the drill is over. But trae Sullivan starts to like windmill dunk over there. Hoop by is this kind of get small things like data gonna group, just loves to have fun and they're always talking, and they're laughing, and they just have a really good energy around them. So they're having fun. They're competing in another reason you mentioned, it Sidney Jones rookie in two thousand seventeen but really had mostly a redshirt year didn't show up until week seventeen against Dallas. Cowboys started on the outside. I thought he played well really had his rookie season in two thousand eighteen and started out really hot like people. Forget how good Sidney Jones played in those first three games especially in the colts game. And look the hamstring injury s- things start to go. Downhill doesn't play as well. Sees a little bit of struggles. There's communication issues. Remember some in the titans game with him and Corey Graham, they weren't on the same page. Those things are going to happen when you're young player and there's changes in the defensive backfield. So again, if he's healthy like he's the guy, I'm really looking for and keeping it with the defensive backfield. Let's go to safe. These Malcolm Jenkins is still a no show. No word on if he'll return to mandatory minicamp, which starts on. June eleventh, I think we've made it pretty clear, at least me and you have g that if it's a matter of money that the eagles need to pay the man. So we'll continue to update you on that situation beyond that Rodney McLeod was participating for the first time in front of the media. A he's a guy that when I went back to his films. Speaking, Gaza really balled out in the beginning of the season, you kind of forget about when I went back to his early in the season super impressive to start the season he was creating turnovers who's making plays on the ball in the air. He was sniffing out route combinations. He showcased a knack for overlapping zones and getting into throwing lanes his tackling efficiency was improved, although it was a small sample size always been a bit of a bugaboo forum, badly missed in that secondary throughout the year. Now MacLeod would obviously go on to restructure his deal after missing the bulk of the season with a torn MC L last year which saved the eagles five million dollars this year, his two thousand twenty year becomes voidable. So we don't know with this is going to be his last year as a Philadelphia eagle, which is why the eagles showed such. Heavy interest in bringing in safeties on official visits in the Predrag process, even though alternately they dropped one instead they opted to go. Offense heavy in the first two rounds. But Beal, g it is good to see MacLeod back. It's a story line. I haven't heard mention of too much, and I think that needs to change based on how he played last year in what capacity was McLeod involved in as today. Yes. Oh, McLeod for the first time in front of the media, at least to know for all I know he could have been practicing when we weren't there last week, but first time in front of the media, he was warming up with the team like he has been, and then he did some individual work, and then I pretty sure I saw him doing some group install with the defense. So that seems pretty good to me. You know not doing team drills yet, but the fact that he's doing something, you know, seems to be a good sign and probably points that he'll be back sooner than later, much better than doing nothing. Or not even being there practice at all as the case with Fletcher, Cox, or Brandon Brooks guys who are still on the men and healing. That was encouraging the sea, and I think one thing we might forget about with Rodney McLeod was how did he wasn't the Super Bowl. He was awesome. And he's not always gonna be that player. I don't use a superstar talent by any means he can show up. He can have those big games. He's a good player, the very least he's he's aggressive when when he gets on. He's assent how he gets on him. Yeah. I so. I think getting running back is kind of like underrated addition, if he can get healthy and be effective coming off, this ACL slash MC L injury that he suffered early in the season last year. So hopefully, you know he kinda discontinues to progress nicely. Good. See him back there today practice getting one step closer and they're obviously some other guys two that are making their way back. Yeah, let's stay on the injury tip your Doug Peterson had a lot of lower body injuries to report. The media was kinda give him crap at the beginning of the press conference. So he talked about those a lot during his press conference do you have a list of players that were not attendance or just out today. Yes. So the usual guy. Were out in terms of all Shawn lane Johnson. They're not attending OTA's who Madame Jenkins, obviously darkman it hasn't been able to practice against enough of that shoulder days leaders, obviously not doesn't need to be OT as that their nears. So Niger Batum deal mills. Brandon Brooks Fletcher carts. All those guys mile Sanders still practicing, which is a bummer in the last week, Adam Schefter said that he was apparently like good to return and on this answering injury wasn't serious. And I'm hoping that still the case, Doug Peterson said that he's being cautious with mile Sanders. It's a bummer though. You know, you wanna see him out, each one of the more interesting players, we could possibly be watching in these practices. So hopefully, maybe he'll be out there. They practice next on Wednesday the fifth, if not, hopefully he'll be there for many can't. So we don't have to wait hill training camp in July. Nelson wasn't practicing today. Not sure what's up with that could dispute a day off? And then MAC Holland's might he exists still. He's alive. Live. There's proof of this. I saw him running on a side field us moving pretty well. That's great to see. It's encouraging and then Doug Peterson said he's quote unquote optimistic that mccown's for training camp. So hopefully that continues to go Lil there that was that was after the media Preston a little bit on it to it. You'd have you tell. He really didn't. He wanted to be vague about it. He actually said that he goes all you want to start out, vague. Okay. We'll talk about mega. Well, I'm ready said, Optimus tick me off the mistake that he will finally be ready to back because it's been too long. I miss Mack. I was watching some on the scientist here. I was watching some of the I was watching Carson two thousand seventeen highlights and MAC showed up there, a decent amount, not a huge role obviously, but he did contribute to the today thousand seventeen team like he was some kind of peace in hopefully he can get back to that that'd be nice to see Josh Adams was running alongside mccowan. So he's working back from that shoulder injury that he has. And then round Darby Corey Clement in Carlton. Agassi's very important. They were all doing some rehab stuff. So those guys are on the mend as well. You mentioned my columns, and some of the highlights. I remember that the in two thousand seventeen it was the bomb against the Washington Redskins that, that went for six that was a big play for Holland. So hopefully he can do more of that for the eagles. It is encouraging to just see him at all. So that's great. One question on the defensive side of the ball for you before we go to break. We'll talk some offense. But Vinny curry is back in from what he described was a long off season essentially, and is very hyped up to be back here in Philadelphia. We're definitely glad to have them back with the Chris long retirement news. Couple of coupled with that, but he's not only hyped to be back. He was hyped during practice today's that, right? Yeah, I don't know why. But for some reason, Carson Wentz fires slant are to wait side on a slam digit are away. Drops it in Vinnie Korea's dislike going nuts literally barking like a dog and then TIMMY, Jernigan runs up to him. He's like, all right. All right. Right. And I was like guys, you know, doing a love the energy, it's great. It was like it's just kinda funny made me laugh was even in the vicinity of the play like. I don't maybe a little bit maybe his hand up. And he kind of made like Wentz lead a little too much. But like, I don't know. I just think it's it's funny to see that one more note quickly on the defense that will touch on is that Zach round was practicing for the from he had been practiced last week after missing the first week entirely. But he didn't participate last week, don't know those injury injury related or what but he's running with the second team right now. It's actually him in Eljay for Kamu Jay hill, and everyone's favourite. Nate Gary where the first linebackers and this is obviously time things teams there. But I do think a little interesting that the aren't just handing round the starting job. And I think that's fine kinda make him work for a little bit. Ends Brown was talking with the media after the practice neighbors, talking about the culture that they have in Philadelphia by saying, you know, there aren't really clicks. I got the running backs right by me, over here, and I can talk down. I could talk with the offense lineman. I could talk with the wide receivers like it's not real cliquey and Philadelphia, maybe that's a big change for him for what he is used to. In Washington, it really wouldn't surprise me. And when we come back here on BGN radio episode fifty seven we're going to be talking about the office out of the ball because we have to get to Carson Wentz, Sean Jackson, otherwise it would not be bijon radio. So keep it locked in here. We'll be back right after this. Hey everybody, how you doing? Well, that's good. My name is Bill, Matt's. I am the director of fun games for broad street hockey radio podcasts. I am Kelly the deputy managing editor of street, hockey dot com. I'm Steph driver, the NHL, additonal manager Espy nation, and I am Charlie O'Connor lead. Flyers writer for the athletic dot com and together, we make up BS h radio one of the shows that you get at the Espy nation podcast family. We have a lot coming to you this year, and we want you to listen to or show. It is just an all flyers all the time show so much content. I really hope you listen to it. It is a great piece of the speed Asian podcast family, along with all your other favorite sports. We all love hockey specifically the fires. Let's go the flyers. The hockey team of flyers. And we are back here on radio episode fifty seven brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding, green Asian, Michael kissed here with Br. Brandin Lea doubt Lynn, Brandon. I was going through the time line today. At lemme tell you I could not scroll too far without coming across either tweet or an article about Boston. Scott, including think pension Solex gonna have an article pumping agree nation dot com about Boston Scott, but Doug Peterson was asked a question about a specific role. And that was the name that came up. Can you tell us more about that? The I mean sometimes been a while to yard articles done. They're always great. I'm you know, I'm not complaining to saying, but this one I mean thirty up now. Mike bell arti has article about Boston Stott and to be fair to Ben. He actually wrote the Boston Scott signs to the roster from the saints practice squad. So he's been over this whole time is he has he renounced his love for Donald puffery is part of the hashtag, Boston, Scott. Hi, I I'm not. I don't wanna be down in Boston, Scott. I'm not saying anything bad like it's, but it's not like you necessarily did anything or is done anything out of this world in string practices. Discount funny, that Doug Peterson was asked about Darren sproles kinda like who could fit in his role. This is from Mike silky. I don't know if Mike was purposely trying to get into bring Boston, Scott without saying his name, or, you know, that would make sense of it than a nice little natural leading question there. But it's definitely worth noting that does through that out. You know it's one thing when you ask a coach about a player directly in, then they praised that guy like, that's, that's fine. That's great. It's another thing or at least it can be another thing if you ask him a question, and he kind of unprompted brings up a player and that's what happened to with Boston, Scott. So that's probably a decent sign for Boston. Scott stock in as I've talked about with you, Mike. When you look at this punt returner situation, you know, it's Donald Pomfret Boston Scott on Jackson. And none of those guys other than the show, who could be probably just more rotational guy as returner is a surefire roster locked. But maybe, you know, Scott. Kinda as good lead. They're potentially for that fourth running back spot, ten return, he can endure, you know, catch passes kind of be that Darren sproles profile mold of a player. I mean find practice. I don't have anything bad to say. But I don't think he's absolutely lit up either to be fair to me running backs. You know they don't they don't stand out atone and these kind of practices. It's different. You know, when you can't have the defense, actually tackle them each. Don't get to see the full you know what they have. So I'm looking forward to seeing Boston that can do this off season. But am not anyway. Against the high, I would never want to invoke the wrath of the hive. But I just I'm looking forward to see more from him as what I'll say, I was gonna ask you yard kinda dressed did, what could he have possibly done in the span of past couple of weeks to just be like, okay, this is the new Darren sproles? Darren sproles. They don't grow on trees, man. And, and we are just talking about a role in he does it's funny because he's got like a similar Bill to high wait all that stuff. And you know, he's a shifty kinda guy, but we'll see when preseason comes Kenny pick up. Certain blitzes is breaking tackles, you know is e- taking care of the ball on special teams in that life fire. So that'll be really where he earns it, but it's encouraging to see that he might have a path to the roster at regaining. Some better overall running back play out of this group than what we got last year that's going to be extremely important for this offense. And speaking of being important for the offense, especially in the long-term Jordan. My Lada had some struggles today. He was benched benched today, super serious news, which of my Lotte, I mean, they experiment over, you know, rain in two plays thing couple plays after a false starting. So something has to work on. I think he's done. Okay. Okay job overall with the first team unit going up against Brandon Graham, so it's not easy. Simon for him. And I saw one point brain Graham, George my logic. Hi, five or whatever I didn't see exactly what happened there. Maybe just Graham kinda give him some respect impressed with him. Or maybe they of just got little too tussled up to make sure everything was clean good. Nothing happened that was dirty on purpose. Same thing with the running back position. Like to me, it's kinda hard that full gauge of what you're getting out of your linemen, when they can only really limited in what they can really do in and it's not like Brennan, Graham, absolutely going all out to bear down on arsenal. Wins in try to actually hit him in hurt him because that would not be very good. So tough to get a real good gauge, but he certainly looks the part still. Obviously, we know that huge but just like the kind of reinforces just looking at him today. He's just so big. It would sure would be nice to have him really be, what people are kind of like putting unfair expectations on him in my opinion. But if, if he can be like a solid NFL player that is fantastic that you have a tackle for the eagles in two thousand nineteen. And moving forward should be great for protecting quarterbacks speaking of the quarterback Bill, gee, I can't believe we've gotten this far without really digging into Carson Wentz his performance, but let's get into it. Let's talk about the chemistry being built between Wentz and John Jackson because, as you said, on Twitter, wince really seems to have a fondness for throwing to Sean. And I know I've often said that their route trees that being you know what Carson Wentz throws well versus what disowns axon runs bell often said those to marry really. Well, don't think I've cited actual statistic behind that in a while. But that comes from short football, Fred of the show worn sharp the reason I say that they lineup and Mary wells. Because in terms of success rate, you're talking about out routes curls digs comebacks slants. They're all throws that Carson makes with regularity has a high success rate and they're all routes that, Sean Jackson see success with as well. So it's not just the deep ball. But of course we're going to talk about the deep ball. But that isn't it? Tractive part of it for sure. Beal, gee, how was the new pairing coming along? It's really, it's looking really good, Mike. Same thing as last week. It's just Carson, it almost feels like he's throwing to Sean, and every play, which is has tied too much. Shawn is the new has much. Although, that'd be really good problem to have. And the person is to Sean a lot and it's not forcing the ball his way ought to be clear on that. It's not like everyone's covered. You know, he's forcing a ball to Sean in someone else's running wide open. No disown is getting open and to be fair. This kind of practice environment is what disown Jackson should dominate. They can't really touch them. They can't get his hands on him. There's no press. And so he has a lot of freedom to get open. But still, I mean like other players have that same thing, and they're not nearly as dominant as the Sean has been in these practices. It's not just the speed, although you still see that they're very much. So a play today, where John is running on crosser in Wednesday hit some and poor Stanford undrafted. Rookie free agent Joey off airy somehow is wind up with trying to get this on out of bounds or tackle him. And I just didn't stand a chance to song up the sideline in a quick, Harry you see the speed. There went had a deep completion to John. That was good to see hit another one that Wentz under through little bit, and was broken up by Jeremiah. Mackinnon I definitely the most fearsome defensive back. So I think I just wanna take from that is the timing could still afford improve on the deep ball with Winston dish on. I think that'll come look at those reps not only here but in training camp as well. Really, usually not a problem for Wentz. You're telling me that I got a guy that can outrun my deep. All you really wanna see, you know, a moon shot from whence, I think to John's going to get it out of him. Yeah. If anything usually see Wensley overthrowing. Yeah. A little bit as opposed to another throat. But the other thing that stands out about the Sean is route running like now, there was a play today where he just got wide open in the back, owner of the end zone and I wasn't looking right at him. The. Place. I don't know exactly how it happened, but it happened. There's some reason why he was ending their all by himself. And I think that's a lot with the Sean just ability to get open not only using his speed, but is precision route running. So that's good to see as well. Those guys went into song clearly already have strong chemistry in. That's really this impressive. I mean these guys haven't had a lotta time to work with each other. I think the chemistry's speaks to both the talent of both of those players. Carson Wentz being really good end Sean being really good in spin able to kind of make almost any quarterback look even better than they already are. So great to see those guys, you know, really teaming up, especially in, you know, part of this is because out on the free isn't here, which kind of a bummer, like to kind of go on that a little bit more, Mike, is that. I don't want to, you know, I'm not gonna get all old man, yells at cloud on also on voluntary. I get it. But one of the biggest things with him in winces like they haven't had a lot of practice time, because do hundred seventeen it was often who was dealing with that torn rotator cuff missed out of training camp last year. Both all Sean inlands didn't really, you know practice much in the off season. They were both hurt and it would just be nice of, you know, all Sean was out there, and he was gonna building more report with winds because we need to see that, that was something. We didn't see enough really into thousand eighteen and maybe those guys will figure it out in training camp. So I'm not trying to say, you know, it's all over and just because he's not, not as but and maybe even many camp next week, you know, shaima back in those two guys will get something going. But I'd like to see that with those two billion chemistry's hopefully, we see that have academically, see your point there because they really having really kind of mistime things with their injuries in the offseason stuff with them. So building that chemistry as Carson Winston to Sean Jax. Doing right now. Would be fantastic. You talk about other guys missing time, wise important. It's not as important for our Sean Jeffrey, because he's a veteran he doesn't need to necessarily have to learn the playbook at this stage. He's already knows it for guy like mile Sandra's as a little more important, especially when it comes to like picking past protections, which was weakness from college. So it's not that big of a deal, but you do want to see him there. And again, we're, we're not trying to yell at the cloud as Bill gee said, but at the same time, yeah, you want to be able to develop that chemistry between Jeffrey and went some sort will be fine with the season starts training camp starts. They'll get into the rhythm, and everything will be nice and rosy. But right now I mean I definitely would like to see them building a report with each other, because it always kinda felt like I think a lot of the fans have echoed the statement to me as well that Jeffrey and Wentz weren't as cohesive, as Jeffrey and fulls. So hopefully they can race that this season moving forward, Beal g any other notes in the offense out of the ball before we get out of here today, not really. This is the final week of OTA practice Wednesday will be the final OT practice open to the media, that's to fifth and the next week obviously begins mandatory minicamp. It'll be the eleventh in twelve those will be the really two days of practice that they have that are actual really worthwhile the last day. This'll be Thursday. The thirteenth is usually kind of just like it'd be day. It's the getaway day. It's the last day of summer, basically, for the guys, they kinda run through a light practice and then it's all over. So we'll be here with you, as always breaking it down, giving you updates. So we'll be back Wednesday with another host OT a update, hopefully things to new to go. Well Carson Wentz continues to good. You know, it's great to see you talk about this team in their upside for all the skepticism that there is out there about harsh Lewinsky. There's a good amount is decent amount. You see from people it's kinda hard and they might be like all these practices, don't mean anything. Well, I mean, that's your take like, okay, great. But, like I'm telling. He looks good. And I'm not making that up like what else am I supposed to say? Like he's like, that's what that's the reality of what it is right now, in when you see that it's hard, not to get excited about what that, optimal, what that kind of projection could be for this season. So I've been saying for a long time now that I'm much more excited for the two thousand nineteen season than I was with the two thousand eighteen season just because impart like last year felt like one big year. Now is a fresh start new year are healthy. So I'm really excited against steep only getting more excited by seeing Carson Wentz look good. So hopefully they describe that kind of positive momentum going here. I think the only thing that can derail this team. And you talked about, you know, you'll looted to last year being one long year between two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen like a bridge like this season really never got started. And they ranked thirty first in just a game loss. It doesn't feel like that this year I feel like the parade is a long time ago. Now this team has. To go out there and prove himself. So we'll keep you updated here at BGN radio. We are definitely excited for this for the eagles team entering this summer, we're gonna have tons of content for you. As I told you at the top of the show, Nukus, Solex show, new QB SCO show, another BGN radio coming to this week as they do press office will throw some at the podiums with us going to do it for us today and Bill. I've had such a problem such the awkward ending to so many these episodes because I I'm not the regular host here on BGN radio. Usually John Stolnis. But we'd get together for these. So I'm going to I'm going to import an ending that I have from the kissing Solex show to really help me get through this. So we all we got you wanna pitch in for the all we need. We all we need like eagles. Fly though, is this is operatives. Geez. Good enough. Nice y'all got a price ago. Snake guys with the shoulders ice Rosen. Eight six. We'll get a ball day gun us in the. Gee.

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At the Podium: OC Update, Happy For Big Red

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27:55 min | 9 months ago

At the Podium: OC Update, Happy For Big Red

"I'm Songwriter Charlie. Harding and I'm use ecology made Sloan or the host of switched on Papa podcasts about the making and meaning of popular music every week Charlie and I breakdown down the most interesting hits trends artists to understand what they're doing what they're saying and why the songs are so infectious. We've recently broken down. Billy eyelashes music with her brother and collaborator phileas dissecting chance the rapper with super producer Oak felder and covered everything from Dolly. Parton to Travis. Scott if you love music you're going to discover something ear opening in switched on pop so join US search for switched on pop in your favorite podcast APP and listen to an episode about your favorite favorite artist and subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. spotify or wherever you're listening to get new music explainers every week and after listening you might want to check out. Our new book switched on Pop. How Popular Music Works and why it matters at your favorite bookseller? Thanks the Eagles are not at at the podium. But we're GONNA have somebody here at the podium in just a few minutes powered by SP nation and leading green nation. I'm your host John Stolnis you can follow me on twitter at John. John Stolnis and coming up. We're going to hear from big Red Andy Reid head coach of the Kansas City chiefs. Talk to the media after the chiefs victory over the Titans in the AFC championship game. Only only the Second Conference Championship game. Andy Reid has ever won getting to his second Super Bowl. We'll take on the forty niners in a couple of weeks down in Miami and so I know a lot of folks folks. Listening are Andy. Reid Banja myself included a very happy for big red that he's moving on to the Super Bowl and when I hear what he had to say in the moments after the chiefs beat the titans on Sunday afternoon. So we're going to get to that in just a second but first let me give you my three things from championship weekend and also a thought here on the Eagles offensive coordinator coordinators search. But let's start off with Andy Reid because I think most of us who followed the Eagles for years Philadelphia fans have feelings about Andy Reid good good or bad. I think many of US watching them beat the Titans thirty five to twenty four on Sunday afternoon felt elated for coach. Read that he's able to get back to the Super Bowl and and and find get another crack at finally winning that Super Bowl title that he really he really should have had a long time ago. It's been fifteen years since his last super bowl with the eagles and that was after he got three shots at getting to the Super Bowl in the NFC championship game three years in a row and fell short. The last two of them at home that at fifteen year span only one coach has had a longer span in between Super Bowl appearances. Not Of course with another former eagles coach Dick for meal who went nineteen years between the Eagles Super Bowl Against the raiders in nineteen eighty one. And when the rams beat the titans in Super Bowl when they We're able to tackle the titans a one yard. Short of course remember for decorah meal on the sidelines in that game celebrating and it's incredible to think that it has been fifteen years since Andy Reid last went to the super rable and he's do. He is due for a super bowl when I looked at the looked at the odds on Monday morning. And right now from from what I could tell Vegas had the chiefs as one point favorite so this is essentially a toss up this game because it's at a neutral site. These two teams are pretty evenly matched. And you have you have a really great match match up in Kansas. And we're going to get into more this probably on on Super Bowl Week when we actually start to preview the game but andy. Reed's offense going up against the forty niners. Defense should be an absolutely terrific perfect match up to classic teams Classic Organizations Classic uniforms. Just it's Great Super Bowl matchup and I'm rooting hard for Andy Reid here and I know there's a lot of you listening. Who aren't I know? There's some of you listening. Who Don't like how Andy? Reid builds a team. The fact that he brought back Tyreek Hill and some of the other players. You don't like the fact that Andy. Reid fell short during his time in Philadelphia. And there's no other way to put it. He should have gone to more super bowls. He got out coached in a number of those. NFC See Championship Games. Specifically that game against Jon gruden against the buccaneers. After the two thousand two season he got outcoached in that Game Clears Day. He for years neglected the wide receiver position. And I still. I honestly believe that if Donovan mcnabb had a wide receiver like tyreek Hill during his first couple years before he got Tara loans they would have won at least one of those. NFC Championship Games. They probably win. One of those super bowls in two thousand and two or two thousand three they. They beat the raiders in the Super Bowl if he has a player like tyreek Hill and even if they passed the buccaneers of what they had they probably beat the raiders in that they probably maybe in two thousand three. Maybe they don't beat. Tom Brady the and the Patriots but the Carolina Panthers almost did in that game you put you put a guy like Tyreek Hill on the team and in two thousand three. They didn't have Brian Westbrook for the playoffs. They would have made. It made it to these one of those super bowls but Andy Reid for years neglected the wide receiver position in Philadelphia and there are still many fans who who who are upset about that he that it feel like big red held them back and I can understand that to appoint he had some bad games in the postseason his time his clock management. It was terrible. When he was with the eagles he burned timeouts repeatedly he would get way too cute way too smart for the room with his with his game plans and and his play calls at times and I know how frustrating that was? I understand how frustrating it was to watch him coach sometimes but he also was an immensely sleep talented coach and immensely intelligent coach. You don't get to be a sixth all-time in postseason wins as a head coach. Because you're because you're stupid. He has fourteen playoff wins all time as a coach. But he's the only one on this list among the top six all time to not win a super bowl. Bella check of course has more or playoff wins than anybody else by far thirty one. No one's ever going to beat that with his six super bowl titles Tom Landry has twenty postseason. Had Twenty postseason wins in his career to Super Bowl. Victories Don Shula had nineteen playoff. Wins two super bowls. Joe Gibbs Seventeen playoff wins three super bowls Chuck knoll Sixteen playoff. Wins and four super bowls. Andy Reid Fourteen career playoff wins no super bowl. Titles so I get. I get the Andy Reid disliked. I'd like to a point but I don't understand the Andy Reid hate and there's a lot of Andy Reid hate in Philadelphia. I could understand being bitter and rooting against Andy Reid. If the Eagles hadn't won the super bowl a few years ago if they hadn't won super bowl fifty two. I may not be sitting. You're rooting for Andy Reid. But we got ours. We got ours with Doug Peterson. We've got a great rate coach we don't have to. We don't have to pine about Andy Reid and Oh he's GonNa win it a super bowl for the chiefs when he couldn't win win one for us we you know Andy. He read is directly responsible for the Eagles Super Bowl. Victory in Super Bowl. Fifty two he trained. Doug Peterson he recommended. Doug Peterson he he helped groom Doug Peterson for the job. And we're very lucky to have him. So Andy Reid is indirectly responsible for the Eagles winning there for a super bowl title and now he gets a shot at his for super bowl title a title. That will cinch a hall of fame spot for him. I think he's probably a hall of fame coach regardless even if he loses this super bowl. I think he's still a hall of fame coach but a super but a super bowl victory clinches it he goes down as one of the greatest coaches of all time so the eagles having having won it would be nice for Andy to finally win his. And I'm sure the conversation will continue over the next couple of weeks as Andy Reid gets ready to take on the forty niners. There's in Super Bowl. Let's talk about the NFC championship game just a little bit. And frankly I think the Green Bay packers story is a little more interesting than the San Francisco Forty niners story because the forty niners. Frankly are just. They're not terribly interesting to me. Kyle Shanahan to great coach. I don't know if Jimmy Garoppolo a good quarterback because he doesn't need to be a good quarterback back with the defense. That team has in the way they run the ball and they're going to run the ball all over Kansas City. Kansas City has a hard time stopping anybody but they were able to slow down Derrick Henry three in the second half of the AFC championship game. So if they can load up the box and try and force to be Garoppolo to beat them. I don't I don't know that the forty niners can beat the the chiefs but I think what's going on in Green Bay is a little bit more interesting than the forty niners ascension I think the dissension the decline of Aaron. Rodgers is is is one of the big talking points coming out of that. NFC title game. He played he. His numbers looked good but he had some absolutely killer mistakes at times he looked. I lost out there and we've seen the means online right now about Aaron Rodgers being a forty niners fan growing up in how Rogers always dreamed of leading them to a super bowl and now oh he has you know it's funny. I get it and the forty niners passed on him in the draft yelled a lot of bitterness towards that he wasn't able to overcome it. Forty niners are much better team than Green Bay packers. The packers were one of the weaker number two seeds to come along in quite some time. I mean if Rogers gets you at Lambeau field. It's a different story. He's got a chance he had no chance. Chance going into that game yesterday and like Donovan. mcnabb Rogers has struggled and NFC title games in his career. He's played in four NFC championship games. He's only one one of them. These lost three. NFC Title Games. He has a career. Completion percentage of sixty three and a half percent one thousand thirty five yards. Averaging six point nine on yards per attempt six touchdowns seven interceptions and a seventy eight point zero quarterback rating in four. NFC Championship Games. So even the numbers looked good at times against INSTA- against the forty niners but he had two interceptions on a fumbled snap before halftime that essentially sealed Green Bay's fate and Green Bay's defense did him no favours and when you look at his playoff golf losses his eight playoff losses. The Green Bay defense is largely responsible. the Green Bay defense gave up forty five points thirty seven forty five in his first three playoff losses in his next three playoff losses. He led the game tying drive in each of the next three and then never got the ball again and then the defense give up forty four and then thirty seven on Sunday afternoon against the San Francisco Forty niners and the forty niners dominated them just like they did earlier in the season and the forty niners were better team. I mean it. You can't with Aaron Rodgers. You'd like to see him do more than he did he. Just he looked overmatched against San Francisco on Sunday Sunday afternoon. The the Green Bay Defense got pushed all over the field. I that's why I really believe with. The Eagles had managed to play the Green Bay packers in the divisional round. They would have won that game because they would have gone back to the same formula. That helped them win. In lambofield on Thursday night earlier in the season run. The ball used that screen game used a tight ends. But it didn't come to pass Asan Aaron Rodgers. I wonder if I wonder if the sun has set on his career at this point. I mean he's still gonNA play. He's still ineffective quarterback. I'm not talking about Aaron Rodgers retiring but I think I wonder if I don't know that he's an elite quarterback anymore. I think he's very good but he may not be. He may not be good enough man and maybe he doesn't the weapons he had devante atoms wide receiver and he had Aaron Jones at running back. He didn't really have a whole lot else. So it's interesting. I do think that they could give him more more help. But we must saying that year after year after year after year with different players going in and out of their Mike McCarthy Maybe Mike McCarthy was the problem is a lot of excuse making for Aaron Aaron Rodgers and I get it because he is supremely talented. He should have more super bowl victories than he does. He should have made it two more super bowls than he has. Maybe it is all conspiring against him. Maybe maybe maybe maybe the football gods have conspired against Aaron Rodgers but he did not look good against the San Francisco Forty niners at times again. Those killer turnovers turnovers in the playoffs. I don't care what you do with so many of those other snaps if you turn the ball over it. It doesn't really matter especially against a team. That's better better than you so I know it's Kinda talking both sides my mouth a little bit here. The Green Bay packers should not have beaten the forty niners and they didn't Aaron. Rodgers was playing without a great supporting cast. He is a terrific. Talented quarterback was not able to perform a miracle. Probably shouldn't hold that too much against him. But I do wonder if the Aaron Rodgers Mojo is starting starting to wane finally. Let's talk a little bit about the eagles search for an offensive coordinator quickly. Some promising names have been mentioned and the Eagles have not been able to land any the latest. USC Offensive Coordinator Graham Harrell who the Eagles had targeted as their new offensive coordinator. He's decided to stay at USC. They're trying to replace Mike. It grows had the position the last couple of years. It's it's been almost two weeks since they fired grow The Eagles reportedly had interest in Ravens. quarterbacks coach James Urban Urban but urban decided to stay with the rams. The talk now is that they're interested in chiefs. quarterbacks coach Mike Kafka WHO's on Andy Reid staff? There is a chance read. Could block the eagles from interviewing him because Kafka would not get the chance to call plays but Kafka has Eric B enemy in front of him who also can't get offensive coordinator job anywhere else in the league. Because he doesn't call plays. I mean he's only called plays a little bit Eric. B enemy should have been on every teams wishlist for head coach. This off season. The fact back is there any other reason than he's an African American that he's not getting these coaching opportunities. If I can't figure out what it would be if it wasn't that because we look at what. Doug Peterson had very very similar experience to to Eric. Peony Peterson only called. Plays occasionally under Andy Reid and look how good that has turned out. So I don't understand why people don't want to return into that well so Kafka could be could be a guy that eagles talked to. They probably have to wait until after the super bowl. Maybe they can do it during the during these next two weeks. But they'd have to get permission from read. I have a hard time finding seeing Andy Reid blocking Mike Kafka from interviewing with the Eagles but you know or maybe not from interview with the Eagles but from taking a job if he doesn't have playcalling ability. But that's the thing here. That's the reason. Eagles are having trouble landing an offensive coordinator. Unless you're in a certain part of your portion of your career if you're not not calling the plays there's no sense in taking the offensive coordinator job. If you're a guy like Graham Herald or if you're a guy Like James Urban you WanNa be calling the plays as as an offensive coordinator because look what happened might grow here. The Eagles offense got better as the season went along. Doug Peterson got the credit when the offense was struggling might Mike grow. Got The blame. So the person if you're the head coach and you're calling the plays generally speaking you're going to get the credit and if you're in the offensive coordinator you're not GonNa get the credit when things are going. Well we weren't. I mean there were some you know there are some slight pats on the back for two micro but I think most people still believe micro should be let go even even though the eagles offense did a little bit better later in the season so it's a tricky job if you don't have the ability to call plays as the offensive coordinator there better be other things going for. Are you that that they're better. They're going to be other things with this job. That make it worth your while. So some other candidates who might have some sense Jim called hauled wells been talked about former lion's heads coach. Who just recently left? The dolphins would make some sense. Mike Shula who was a Pat Shurmur is offensive coordinator. The last years with the giants could be available and J. GRUDEN'S A guy who people have mentioned as a possibility who would be very intriguing. He has been taking some interviews as well for offensive coordinator jobs. And of course do Staley Could be elevated and quarterbacks coach Press Taylor's another guy that obviously we've mentioned here on various podcasts. Nobody would be enthused if press Taylor was the guy who got the okay all right. Let's head to the podium. Let's hear from big Red Andy Reid in the moments after his champion. AFC Championship game. Victory over the Tennessee Titans I'm Jillian Weinberger. Who's to the impact? A podcast from vox about how powerful people affect the rest of us this season. We're looking at the big ideas from all the people running for president in twenty twenty hit this opioid crisis head on public option. move away from Moslem field energy efficiency agency and it's GonNa be a Great Wall and it's going to work. A lot of those ideas have actually been tried before like that. Wall trump wants to build the GAL. Arizona has had one on its border for decades. I don't understand why individual people have a right to have a fence and yet a country can't Senator Warren's proposal to the OPIOID crisis it's based on what we did to fight the AIDS epidemic. We would like to name it the Ryan White Care Act and the green new deal. Germany tried something similar in two thousand. This is solution this season on the impact. We have those stories how the big ideas from twenty twenty candidates worked or didn't work and other places or at other times. These are the stories that will help us understand what might happen if these proposals get rolled out here in the next four years. Subscribe to the impact on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite PODCAST APP up to get new episodes now. Where's the trophy? Listen I long. I'm so happy for the hunt family and bring that trophy back here a while. How hungry is that? That's the ready proud of our team for the effort that they showed today. is kind of their their thing. I mean it's get behind like this tough on an old guy but they did. They did a nice job coming back in again. Fired up. Go to Miami. Need to get on a diet so I can send my clothes to our thing but very proud very proud of everybody in the job that they did the coaches and coordinators for the plan that they had ebay talked the team last night and got all fired up and he's been there as a player and coach and I wrote great words for the for the players and coaches for that matter so the guys came out play Italian energy. We had a few ups and downs there early. Overcome those ourselves going in the right direction and tonight was the fans phenomenal. That thing out there right now unbelievable so very good. Yeah big hearts they work hard. Never give up Fours on football every snap Appreciate that they don't care about the score. Just brand the paid off for the last couple of weeks is compared this championship. Like the cliche of apples for juice. Sir There are simple yes sure absolutely and fond memories of to that so let South could come join us. He was at both of them so he he knows it's but I there's something special about at this trophy with the family I I excited for the hunt family and the players that have worked their tails off the coaches. There's just so much effort that went into this coaches. Were here before helped us get to this point so it takes takes an army. It's not one guy at all and so I just appreciate the effort for by everybody and our fans. I can't wait to get all of them down to Miami. The Miami is ready for that and Serious on which I did. Yeah I met him. My first year in the League brand new my first year as a head coach he came up and start talking to me. And when I felt like I didn't know anybody you know and then we found out our brothers were geolog- are he was a geologist and he found out. My brother was geologist hall sudden we struggle come. He struck the conversation. Told me a little bit about his background in geology and Tom Is Great. So great to me my whole career up to two the last year we were for short man. I mean it was. The guys made a point to get better than that four inches so it was a it was a joint effort. Those guys that had to sit through this last year and watch what went on there that one row big. I want to be that one nugget say so they bear down and they were going to go through that again and You know so you got to be a part of it just like I did and the watch how they came about playing Patrick touchdown for your sidelines. Staffer you guys now huge men. I knew he didn't step out so I felt better even better about it. I you know some they. They review all those but I knew he was. He was in going into halftime with the lead helps or is he loves seconds. Left on the clock kicked it off so the always the always wanNA finish with the ball. We didn't quite do that but it was close enough and then have an opportunity. They come out the second half and have the ball. Who Does our job there? Snow those are big. Those are big things so the the defenses are obviously trying to take things away down the field and and when they do that double doubles where you know. They're double on a couple of players and it just leaves it open-door there so he's able to take off and run with it and Get some real positive yards so for him to be able to see that and in the heat of it is something I mean. That's a great is great vision which we know what the passing game but he sees the whole pitcher and and and he's able to find spots. Some of that also goes to the office line. They didn't I shop at protecting them today to pros. Never I think we all do believe in you know so. That's a positive. It's not just me it's everybody and you know. We're lucky to have some guys that I built a lot of confidence within. Yeah comment from a coach standpoint so on both sides of the ball and but you know that's a leader of the team and everybody knows that they all respect him for knows how to handle it and that's why we're here laid down enough you're going for it wasn't we had a good plan in mind confidence in my guys now so when with it we've been pretty good in that area we've surely aggressive forth thousands on the positive side of the ball on the positive side of the field so workout while fourth season in many worse but this gave us a rooted in last year's the bad taste they all came. Yeah I think that's not a good feeling And it was it wasn't it just. It was everybody so everybody took the responsibility. And with that you feel that you're not A. That's not a good feeling so Tom Osborne driving us through you know training camp and into the season. We have great expectations like this. Football team. Had to sit here today and be in this position. That's a challenge. There's a lot of things that go into that. And you know you guys have got that locker rooms gotTa Be Right and the coaching staff has to be right and guys have built. CHECK THEIR EGOS at the door and their ups and downs and all those things not getting down on each other and But I'm proud of the guys are all doing all that defensively less than you're crushing force. Yeah he's ACA player now Hunanese e strong and I'm proud of our guys. They were on a mission to take care that the veil to do that me and my echoes off to. He's a heck of a player. Tough strong fast wholesale things you can't you can't let them all get a crack there because he he's GonNa run you over run past you so very talent quarter yes at thirteen. Eighteen plagiarize seventy three hours right down the field mostly running. The football just struggled to get the this year how much confiscating cross going forward and avian now pro is probably. The guy's name is healthy so that helps and the top couple carries to and did a nice job Working and You know it's a all around. We're getting better they're PROB- we're getting better there. You don't want to reflect this means to you personally. All of friends and family and players coaches were stuck with over the years. Get Knowledge Great. Aw I respect all of them. You know it's unbelievable now. FANS PEOPLE IN GENERAL FAMILY MS not easy being a coach's wife long hours so a share their right here so I l. around the whole time out there you know my girlfriend. Jet Jet Live. Society spoke all week and record. One of those guys just twist change start at the end these from phenomenal job gene.

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BGN Radio #22: The State of the Eagles

Bleeding Green Nation

26:46 min | 2 years ago

BGN Radio #22: The State of the Eagles

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Welcome into radio this episode twenty two brought to you as always by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am host Michael kissed and the holiday has forced us into a bit of a different schedule. But that's not a bad thing. We've got a joint episode with big blue view up on the feet from earlier today. Tomorrow on thanksgiving. You can listen to myself in Mark's go field preview this matchup with ally. Manning on the QB SCO show. But today joining me, and may he forever reign Brandon league, outon Beal g how you doing brother. I'm not going doing good, Mike, very bad. It is not a fun season turns out and here we are with eagles foreign six playing the giants. And I am not even sure if they will beat them this week. So not going great. Yeah. Teams are in two different two different trends here, which is unfortunate. And we're going to hit on that. And we're also going to hit on a wide range of overarching themes about this about this season on this show. But I. Question. I gotta ask G because it's on the tip of everyone's tongue. I gave some thoughts about it on the at the podium eleven point five episode leading into the press conferences, but micro is probably regretting saying that it's quote on quote, a challenge integrating golden Tate into the offense. And my problem with it is that it pointed to the eagles not having a detailed plan on how to use Tate when they acquired them and also pointed at him being potentially unqualified for the position of offense coordinator that he currently holds because I would argue it should be rather easy to integrate golden Tate into this offense. But I'm also just a guy with the microphone and internet. So Beal, gee, I wanted to do this impromptu show because you as the face of bleeding green nation that kingmaker if you will I feel like your voice on the state of the team needs to be heard. But I'm also wanting to know how you feel about these comments made from grow, and what they might mean that is a very bad comment by micro. That's what I will say that. Eagles PR coaches these guys up before the press conference, and I'm not blaming it on them. But just like men, that's what I think after the press conference they might conference about and be like, yeah. You shouldn't have said that Mike not not a good one. I mean, everyone was just killing him on Twitter for that. And everywhere yesterday. I mean, it's it's the last thing you wanna hear as an eagles fan right now. It's so self-incriminating just basically don't know how to do my job. Okay. Great. Great. Thanks. That is terrible. It's a terrible quote. And I mean, obviously, it's not untrue. I mean, they're really not successfully incorporating him into the offense right now. It's not just killing it out there. So at least he's being honest. I guess but man frustrating part of this year. And obviously there's a lot of talk about do. They eagles miss Frank Reich and John de Filippo. And obviously they do. I mean, I think it's fair we can say they do I think you can question to what extent I think they were always do for natural regression to some extent. Even if flip and right did stay. They were just so good in certain categories last year. They probably weren't going to sustain that. But you know, to which the level to which they have dropped and especially after the saints game. I mean, you're facing a team that was in the twenties and in defense in points allowed like they weren't good defense, and you can only put seven up on them very frustrating. Very disappointing. And kinda shows you where this offense is at. And I think you have to take a look in the mirror as the eagles. Just keep loving say. Which is probably driving everyone nuts as should. I don't think that mirror has many answers right now. But Mike grow the thing that frustrates me about all that is just I don't think there was a real search for this offense of coordinator job or the quarterback coach. There's been no indication that there was maybe there was I don't know. I'm not saying definitively either way, but I can say for sure that there's been no indication that there was and that kind of confuses me because what was the big selling point when they hired Doug Peterson. They brought this coaching staff in it was that we have Doug Peterson. We have Frank Reich. We have John de Filippo three former quarterback guys experienced that was a huge pillar of what this coaching staff was supposed to be built on. And all of a sudden, they lose two guys, which they couldn't control. Like, I think we need to point that out because I feel like this whole idea that the eagles kept the wrong coaches, silly wasn't their decision like the colts wanted Frank Reich. So they got him eagles. Couldn't do anything about. This is how the league works glam. Josh mcdaniels blamed Josh mcdaniels end with flip. I mean. I mean, he had gone out the door before. Right got hired. And then he wanted to call plays. Anyway. So even if he had been if even if I had gone he still wanted have wanted to leave because he wanted to call plays, and he wasn't gonna do that here. Step Peterson's doing that. So what can you control basically is might my point? And that is who you hire to replace those guys. And to me, it doesn't seem like they put a lot of attention or focus or emphasis on that. It was kinda just like, well, we have Mike grow in prestige in house. So let's just promote them. And I think that was clearly not looking like the best decision that love openly that falls on Doug. It's his coaching staff. So micro is failing. That's Doug's fall alternately but looking at Mike grow and evaluating him. Again. This is a guy who I don't think we're talking about enough prior to this week until I was looking at now is like you know, what Mike grow was the passing game coordinator for a Rams offense that ranked thirty first in passing yards in thirty second passing DVD? A now he wasn't calling the plays there. I don't know how much he was. Involved. But again his title was passing game coordinator. And that offense was terrible. And we saw how good it looked obviously when Sean McVay took over last year, the jump from how bad it was to how good it was was amazing. So I mean suggesting that coaching definitely was an issue in there. So I clearly just don't think might grows an answer here. I would I would be surprised if he was back at this point really in. What's really surprising about it as he was a wide receivers coach and he did offense has a job with that unit last year, and then he brings in a wide receiver. And he doesn't know what to do with them. It just it blew my mind that he would say something like that. And then on the other side of the ball. You get Jim Schwartz saying that, you know, he's asked about Corey I'm Linden and the rest of the coaching staff under him on the defense, and he's asked about their performance, and he just says foreign six which is like his Goto because I remember several times, and there were foreign Forbes going they play like they're reformed for and while there's some truth to that. You know, sometimes we want to hear a little bit more. I know he's not going to give the full plate of what the facts are. Are and how they're performing, you know, he's not gonna show us the the evaluation if you will on his staff, but at the same time with the lack of development from the defensive backs and even with all the injuries like there has been nobody young to come up and step up in Sydney Jones has been up and down since he's come back shown flashes. But he's also had some pork games as well. On the saints came out and said that they wanted to test him coming back from his hamstring injury. Which is you know, perfectly understandable from their perspective by this defense. Just hasn't shown that they have any life to them and you look at the saints game. And I was talking about this before the show they mixed up the plan. He tried to get creative. But what we ended up with was doubling Michael Thomas. Okay, fine. I get that. You put the cone bracket on. I'm just like we did with Dell Beckham junior that was affected against the giants and somewhat effective in certain places against the saints. But then they also what I saw from. When I watched the film. I saw a bunch of in and out bracket coverage Alvin Kamara whose lineup as a wide receiver coming out of the backfield. We can't cover. All in Kamara. We got Nigel Brad him out there who's taking up nine million dollars with the cap space getting burned by Dan Arnold when we're doubling guys he's in single coverage. And he can't cover that up like this defense as a whole in. This goes to the point that we were talking about before the show was well, there's nothing exciting about this team. There is nobody taking the next step up. You know last year we had a bunch of surprise contributions and bounceback seasons from a lot of different players and this season offense and defense are keeping up with the defense. We haven't seen any of those bounceback performances, and if anything we've seen a drop off from players like Nigel Brad that have hurt this team. The biggest thing that bothers me. The defense still is that they have seven seven seven takeaways in ten game seven. Yeah. That's horrible. That is terrible. You have to almost be not trying to take away the ball to that poorly. Like that is that is it ranks towards the bottom of the league is it's it's an issue. Obviously the team was a lot better at taking away the ball last year. And I thought it was interesting because Mike Garoppolo friend of the podcast. I guess you could say given the whole Benjamin celek looking out the window into darkness situation. Where mike? Chose men. But anyway, the point there he was talking about how okay, you know, what's different about that. Because I think a lot of people it's tempting to look at the turnovers and be like, well, it's kinda just luck. And that's a factor in there. I know that's situational. There's a lot of circumstance fumbles bounce certain way passes tip. You know, there's a lot of things I go into it for sure. But one thing that you can control again is where those turnovers were happening and Mike Ruffalo was pointing this out on do something more on the soon is about how are forcing turnovers last year because they are getting the other team into further down in distance. You know, they're not like turning like, for example. You know, they were they were forcing teams in two third law as opposed to third in two. And when you're doing that, you know, you're able to force more turnovers because the other team has to be more aggressive with the ball to try to get that I down, and that's what they're not doing this year that's Old Dominion issue. So I don't wanna hear the defense is completely blameless in this. 'cause I think some people have said that. And now, I would say the offense is mortally still not try. Take there's a lot to pass around blame them the thing. That's the thing coming out of the saints game that really bothered me if we're talking going back to that little bit. It's just like we don't need to. I mean, obviously, we're media types. We talk about the team right about the team. We podcasts about the team. We're always going to assess blame and it's it's just natural. I get it. Like it's part of the game. If you will. But like in reality, the boy, there's plenty of lame to go around. It's not like we have to like this person is more at fault than this other person. Okay. Like, it's all kind of equal. I mean, maybe that's true. But what's what are we talking about percentage here? Like this guy's fifty one percent of blame in the other guys like forty nine percent. Like, okay. Like like that makes a big difference. So that's kinda disa- frustrating aspect of this too. But yeah, I mean, I will say though coming out of the saints game. You know, it was hard to be like pissed at least for me about the defense. Just because I knew you know, the saints. We're gonna score. You just knew that. And the secondary is just getting like obliterated that they don't even have Jalen mills at all round Darby. Rodney McLeod Nala sudden craven LeBlanc. And Shannon Sullivan. And those guys are in there. Let's get in toasted Sidney Jones who was healthy. The saints went into the game thinking he was a weak point, which I think is kind of a little bit concerning in the long term like that is supposed to be one of your best players. So a lot of issues there for sure but even going into offense could help this team more. I mean, hey, maybe stay on the field. And the defense is to me up so many points because they don't have to be on the field the whole game. But yeah, a lot a lot to blame right now. A lot of frustrating things with this team. It's a it's a complete team failure. And on that note. Mike, I wanna get your thoughts on some of these quotes that are going around. You have Jason Kelsey last week talking about how there's a lack of accountability on this team. I thought that quote was kind of confusing a little bit the time because he didn't like I didn't know exactly what that meant. But then this week after the saints game you have Malcolm Jenkins coming out. And he's saying that he didn't like this team's demeanor. When he was looking and he was clearly pissed because Malcolm Jenkins is a guy. Who always stands in the locker room after the game answers your questions, and he's pretty composed for the most part. But he was flaming his helmet. He was flipping off Sean Payton he wasn't talking after the game in the locker room. Eventually did talk to her some reporters. But not like he usually does. So like what is going on at this? Yeah, it's interesting because I read those comments I wasn't sure how much to to read into it just being frustration with how the season has gone and also being lit up for forty eight points. When I was watching the film last night. I took a second dive into it. And I specifically noted I wanted to watch the players as the plate developed and then after the play as well in like just the demeanor from some of the guys just wasn't there after play it just like everything was just kind of shrub, and it didn't look like they were putting everything out there. And I think that's kind of what Malcolm Jenkins is referring to like it was a foregone conclusion for this defense that they were just gonna get toasted. And that's something that you absolutely cannot have an at the same time to if you're if you're talking about. The attitude of the defense the attitude of his defense stems from guys like Malcolm Jenkins also stems from a ferocious pass rush, which did not show up in this game in this is the first time I can really say that this season because it's been tossed out there before throughout the season cases, where it wasn't really applicable. But in this one there were only four total pressure dropbacks from the Philadelphia Eagles defence per for a pro football focus allowed by the saints offense of line on any given play that a complete outlier from from what we've seen and when you look at the defense, you don't see the attacking downhill style. You don't see that the effort that we've seen before? And I'm not saying that guys are just not trying. But man, it just seems they'd seen dejected for early in the game too. It was like a second half collapse type thing where like last year against the Cowboys. We made them quit in the second half. It. It didn't feel like it was just like the whole game was just a big shrug. And that really showed up on film for me, which is depressing to see a and b l g speaking of confidence in the team confidence in yourself. If you recently did a power rankings around up, and it looks like that the media recognizes what all of us recognize and may even feel better about us about the team juxtapose to what the current mood is inside the locker room and even here with the media after the forty eight to seven shellacking that was put on us by the saints. If I remember correctly, the most common raking was eighteen the average was nineteen point five over under Beal GI that gun the answer. How are you feeling about this team compared to the rest of the the media right now, I have in my personal ones? I have them down at twenty four. So definitely I'm on the on. That's actually the lowest. There was another. So someone else had them down at twenty four to. I think. Oh and hates the eagles. Like, we can hate the eagles. Yes. While we're allowed to the thing. No one else is it's like, you know, your little brother like, no, one can talk crap about your little brother. But you can so. Yeah, I it's hard to feel good about this team. Like, I get there still alive. And I don't discount that the NFL season is crazy things are. Unexpected happened all the time. I'm not ruling it out. But like, how can you say it's realistic like that? They can just go on run here. They haven't won back to back games all season. They've lost their last three games at home when previously they had the best home field advantage in the NFL. Like, what are you? What are you hanging your hat on with this team right now? What is what makes you feel good about them? Like, I can't find it. They are twenty-second in offense of Devi their twenty second in defensive Devi and their twenty second and special teams delay terrible. There's consistently below average across the board their twentieth point differential by comparison. By the way, the giants are actually better DVD overall at twenty first and they are twenty six so they're worse than point differential. I don't know what am I supposed to feel good about this team right now. I know Carson Wentz in theory. You know is a good quarterback. But he's coming off his worst game. These probably not gonna play that poorly moving forward. It would be very hard for him to do that. I think Doug Peterson overall. I still have confidence in him in the long. Term that I have no confidence in this offense as a whole right now. They're not showing me anything office coordinator, saying can't freaking incorporate on the offense supposed to have a lot of confidence there. It's a tough spot, and it's unfortunate. And I think a good key point here from BGN writer, Matt Harkin reader talking about how the last time the eagles got embarrassed the way they did against the saints was of course, by the Bengals in two thousand sixteen and I felt like at the time that that was a really important stretch afterwards. Giggles are virtually eliminated from the playoffs at that point. But it was important to see how that team fought. Because I thought if that team folded down the stretch I thought Peterson should maybe be a one and done because if he loses this team like that, and they're not even gonna show up and play with effort than that's an issue. You know? So these games happen every once in a while. But if you know the giants come in here on Sunday, and they kicked this teams. But it's not even competitive again. And it continues to look that way down the stretch. It's like that's going to be concerning. And that's that's going to say a lot. So playoffs are not even I kinda wanna see this team. Get back to, you know, being at least competitive end showing that now they're they're in these games. And just honestly from the fan perspective. I just want to be fun. Mike like, yeah. You're talking before the show they've had one fun game this year one enjoyable game. They've obviously won a couple so winning cool in all. But those winds haven't felt great like did you really feel awesome about the first win of the season like about? I mean, it was it was it was good. Yes. It was a good result. They went home full of whatever. But like, you know issues there, and you know, they beat the colts because they barely hold on late in the game. Like, you didn't feel like super awesome about that. Then of course, they beat the Jaguars. Same thing. You're not feeling awesome about that. After Blake Bortles almost beat the team. So I just want the team to have a good win and the opportunities here, but my confidence is low. Yeah. And I talk a lot and have talked throughout this season about, you know. The Washington Redskins how they can be real jecklin high. They can be it can show up for a game or they just completely not Joe for game. When they for a game. They're very competent team. Obviously they have new situation surrounding that right now at Alex Smith going down, but they're capable of putting together sixty minutes of of football. And even though they might not show up for some games. They do have stretches where they look very good and play above their level. The eagles haven't played as other than the giants game of full sixty minute game where they were able to put everything together. And I think that's the most concerning thing, and they haven't been able to string two games together on top of that. I mean, if you can't play sixty minutes you can't play to game. So I guess that goes hand in hand. But still it we just keep waiting in. We keep waiting for this attorney around for the light bulb become on. And while that's happening. The roster is a revolving door with guys going down with injuries and guys like TIMMY Jernigan coming back in. There's no stability with his team in the hope was coming out of the by that they would put it on Dallas cowboy. Noise at home, and they did it and the hope was you would at least some life from the offense against the saints leaky pass defense, and that never materialized is this a failure to hit the gas stemming from a messaging problem with the Peterson. And for instance, you look at what this off season was and I've said this before this week on ninety seven five the fanatic. It doesn't seem like this team was ready to close the book on two thousand seventeen and it has led to the book never opening in two thousand eighteen when you think about some of the comments made by the players and the Peterson book tour, and all those factors. Besides the injuries because we all know about the injuries in their impact. But if you put those aside, are you of the same mind with me that the eagles really never mentally moved on from two thousand seventeen or if they did that it was already too late once been mixed messaging. Right. I think it's fair to say that I mean Doug sock on about the new norm over here, which if this is the norm, please unsubscribe me from this new. Norm because it does not the norm that I prefer. But yeah, I feel like it's just been mixed messaging going back to not think about the the Super Bowl ring ceremony and Doug was talking about you know, how like at midnight after that we turn the page or whatever at the same time. You know, you still have these big Super Bowl banners in reminders everywhere. And I'm not saying they shouldn't have them. They won the Super Bowl special. I think you should acknowledge that in your place of work. But for sure then they're taking the sign out a couple of weeks into the season. Like, it's then they lose the Panthers. And all of a sudden the pressure is off. I still don't know what that means. I feel like the messaging has been muddled, and it's just getting it doesn't feel like as landing it's not lending and even with the media, which isn't the most important thing. But like Doug Peterson has his press conference today on Wednesday and towards the end of the his conference. He's talking about how the foreign six eagles are a quote, eight player to away from flipping the script. So we're close like, oh my God do away. Hold on hold on. He said that like four or five. Weeks ago? The real reason that you're a player to away is because you're putting yourself in those situations in your being in games that you shouldn't be in. The it wasn't a player to away against the Panthers yet seventeen nothing Lee and to score lead against the titans. That is not a play or two away. You're a bad football team right now. That's what it is the so I I hate that. Smokeless games kind of days. Like like, we're not like we're watching this team to like we we're not that dumb. Like, I I get it's coach speak in like, it doesn't matter a ton in the sense of like what Doug Peterson said there doesn't determine necessarily directly if they win or lose Saad. Right. I get that. But it's just not encouraging. Does anyone really feel better? After hearing that no is is Doug Peterson gonna say anything that makes me feel better. Maybe not. But is he gonna say something that least not make me feel even worse? I mean, hopefully that should be the goal. I don't say something that's gonna make me feel even worse about you. And the team don't do that just say something boring. Hey, no. We're not winning right now. We gotta do better. Like, okay that's fair. You know? That's I think that's right analysis actually, so so the here that it's kinda like stop like, no, they're not your your our foreign sixteen like there's nothing fluky about being foreign six. This team deserves to be for instance. It is very accurate record. It's not one of those. Now there. Our situations. I think in different seasons where you know. Like your point differential might be really good in your record isn't as good as that. And that's a little bit fluky should have won some of those games lost. That does happen. Nothing. Does NF. The on the flipside happens the other way, and that's why I thought the giants who were like what one ten or eleven games in two thousand sixteen like I knew they were gonna be dad the next year. 'cause like right it in a good point differential. They're beating these bad teams are like barely beating them, and they were kind of frauds. So they were actually worse than their records said they are this team again twenty-third Devi a twenty point differential. They're foreign six they deserve to be there. And that's what they are. And I think was Zach Rosenblatt. I think someone said on Twitter that was a four six press conference to use in terms terminology, there are sorts terminology. So it was a foreign six right now, we might be a foreign six podcast. But I I would hope we can improve. That's that's a great point that they threw a back on bail g I think. It's gonna cover it. We we've had enough of bitterness for for this holiday season. It's time to to get with the families. And we hope you enjoy the show build you have any other thoughts before we end this bad. Boy swung to say. You know, obviously the holidays coming up thanksgiving if you are celebrating. I just want to if you're if you're not either way first of all wanna say that cranberry sauce awful. That's why I will put that out there. It's terrible. It's gonna come out that personal attack. It's it's really bad. It does not belong you wouldn't know Mike, but in years past of BGN radio, I've not the biggest fan of things giving food as a whole. I think it needs to be revamped. I'm kind of looking at some of these southern nice giving I'm seeing where they have MAC and cheese, and like southern potato mashed potatoes, which are currently are like 'tatoes cream cheese and bacon cheddar cheese in there. And I'm like, what are we doing? Why why is this not in my life? So, but that's a whole another thing. Are you a hammer Turkey guy real quick handlery? Heke guy. Oh, I can do a ham. But it's not like I can have a little bit of ham. It's fine. But it's not my thing. I can have a whole plateful a ham slap it on. And then put some cranberry sauce right on that bad. Boy amenaces. Now, I can't agree go out for you. But I just wanted to say that thanksgiving food takes aside that I will be little cheesy here from say, I'm very appreciative. Of course of all your guys support, I'm thankful for that. So that means a lot as we pointed out here, the the show with Ed in you, Mike was the hundredth episode overall of a whole new feed since the relaunch ear at really awesome were glad keep this thing going whether eagles struggle or not will be here for you. So at least you can have that to either look forward to dread, depending on your preference your point of view. And of course, as always I tunes ratings interviews, very important. Please leave those in there. Tell us what your ankle for or tell us what you don't like, whatever that's up to you. We prescient that atoll yet. So because we hit that benchmark of one hundred episodes soon sometime next week on one of the kissing Solex shows me, and Ben will read out some of our favorite reviews. 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Middlekauff - 3 & Out - Elite coaches survive; Andy Reid scary with Mahomes; Toughness still wins; Another Belichick clinic

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

52:16 min | 1 year ago

Middlekauff - 3 & Out - Elite coaches survive; Andy Reid scary with Mahomes; Toughness still wins; Another Belichick clinic

"I'm Katie golden. I studied psychology and biology at Harvard, and I pretend to be a bird on Twitter and my new podcast creature feature. We've you nature in man from a new perspective each episode asking comedian to get inside the minds of animals, so we can explore the startling connections to human psychology, you'll find blood bands and treachery that make game of thrones seemed like a dumb show for babies. Join us every Wednesday and subscribe on apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Well, well, well, what is up John middlekauff three now podcast back at it? Again, down the home stretch. Sad to say, we got three games left to championship game Sunday, then the Super Bowl, and then we got the offseason so combine draft, but actual games we got three left until the the hall of fame game, which is usually in early August. So enjoy these last three games. And let's hope they are a little better than what we just witnessed this weekend. And while the matchups were great on paper. It was a pretty crappy weekend just from. Entertainment standpoint might be the wrong word because I mean, I could watch any NFL game and probably be entertained, but just from a competitive standpoint called Teves blow out the game in the morning Sunday morning patriots. Chargers blow out in the Rams game. While it wasn't a blowout. Dallas just kinda gotta take into them. But I want to start with the afternoon game. And just I've been saying all season long that the day and age of the meat head coach is done. It's dead in the NFL that there's too much money on the line these owners and clearly picking a coach probably of any position in in high level business, you know, in a billion dollar industry is the most difficult in the sense that maybe it's like this with any CEO of a company, but I would say in most companies I can quantify what that guys. Done is the CFO as the lead sales guy. Like, they're usually numbers. The back it up in football like especially lately, there are a lot of guys that have been hired this in the history of the league that hadn't been coordinators maybe were coordinator but worked on a team where the head coach was calling place. So was impossible to kinda know exactly what he was doing. But one thing is clear, and there's a reason why I'm not that all in on John Har, binding more. It's why I'm pretty critical of Anthony Lynn any raw. It's why Zimmer the one thing I will say for Zimmer while he is old school at least he does something like on game day. Mike Zimmer calls the defense. So to me that is really important. And if you hiring a coach in two thousand nineteen he better call side of the bowl, preferably offense. But if I am hiring defense of coach he better be my defense coordinator because I think when you see eat listen in pro sports. It's about winning and losing and an owner if if you could hire a dog to coach your team in any pro sport, and they would win the championship. An owner would like no one cares. If you win, but to me when you lose that's what I judge you even more harshly, and I think I learn more about you like the eagles lost on Sunday afternoon. But it's pretty clear. Doug Peterson Goto with anyone as a play caller and his team's ready to go. He doesn't need to give me a million. Newt rotten speeches d to bring some outline, you know, to a halftime speech. You know, bring some former Indian chief for just all the stuff like John Harbaugh. Does did Anthony Lynn got his ask worked on Sunday morning in the game ends and the score was I mean, you talk about Hulo touchdowns in that game. That game felt like fifty two nothing. I think it was literally thirty five to seven. I mean, an absolute massacre in if I was the Spanos, and hopefully, I would love dean Spanos bankroll. I would never aspired to think like I can't I despise cheap. Rich people. I really have a I'm talking like super super rich people that are they bother me. So hopefully, if I was rich and own an NFL team. I would not operate like dean Spanos. But if I was being like, if I'm Jeffrey Lurie in I go toe to toe with the saints on the road who are the number one seed, I take away their I learned more about Doug Peterson in their one playoff loss. These last two years as much as I learned in any of the playoff wins. I mean, you get a guy can go just big time coach, and that's what he's calling the plays. He's coaching getting his team, ready prepared, mentally and physically. That's what a coach looks like when the CIA. Chargers season ends I go. What did Anthony Lynn just do in that game? He doesn't call the offense. He doesn't call the defense. That's my problem with these rock coaches like John Harbaugh. He's running through coordinators every stinking year because he doesn't know anything about offense. And he's he keeps his fingers crossed. And he gets a good defensive coordinator because he's out of defensive coordinator either. Like at least if I'm gonna hire a guy. So I get like the kings, berries, the Laforce. I don't love all these hires geese aeriens like nine areas, quote unquote said he's not calling the offense. But like don't get it twisted. He's running those meetings. I want my coach to call the plays. I want to know what he's doing. If I was a fan in my coach, enlists, Bella checks outlier. He knows everything that every players doing on every play. I don't think Anthony Linwood. No their offense of playbook. You know? Like, I mean, seriously like, no. Thing like the back of his hand. No jams. They go as far as rivers and wisdom, take him. And that's my issue with like a coach like that. You get blown out. And you think yourself what did he really do like, the raw raw speeches in January and football becomes the ultimate chess game, and obviously bell checks the best ever. So I didn't even have really expect him to win though. I picked him. But if you're going to get to the second and third round of the playoffs. You've gotta be at least able to hang with Bobby Fisher on Jeff sport doesn't mean you're going to beat them. But if you can't like if you look at Anthony win on Sunday morning. He was sitting there with Bobby Fisher. And you might as well just throwing me across the table. You have. No, I don't even know what upon is earning. No where to put it adjustments can't adjust. He doesn't set the plan like Doug can constantly adjust. Sean McVay can constantly adjust. That would be my question Mark Jason Garrett. Like, what did he really do? Not only offense not all the defense. So when I get into a match or. Into a situation in a game where I'm outmatched like bell. Check in constantly hit you with a countermove, Sean McVay can tweak things same with Andy Reid. Same with even Pete Carroll can slightly adjust. Once Anthony land gonna tell us coordinators. You know, keep trying guys win one for the gipper. I mean, it's just my coach Doug Peterson look at all the goats that you left this. This off season impressed with I don't know the colts got their ass kicked. But Frank right calls the place. So you go, you know, what luck had a bad game? They ran into a buzz audio head. I mean football gods. Rebound to give them a win at home. At least, I know Frank Reich bricks up the table, and because the place McVay calls the place Jason Garrett claps I like Jason Garrett more than most. But I don't like my head coach not to be doing one of those two things. Not in today's day and age now at the amount of money that's online not with. How smart all these coaches are? I mean, Anthony Lynn it was like took a dull butter knife to fight the seal team six like, good luck, buddy. I mean bell check. If it was a war chick would kill them within the first two minutes. It wasn't even a fair fight and the afternoon, Sean Payton who is clearly one of the best. Offense coaches, the NFL has ever seen in their teams really good that got hall of fame quarterback. I mean had to empty the tank against an eagles team that had a rash of injuries. I mean their best offensive lineman tears Aquiles their best defensive lineman disappears for half the game. Fletcher Cox, they're playing with our backup quarterback, and they're just going for toll blow for blow. I mean, that's what I want out of a coach. So when you hear me say these meathead guys, this is what I'm talking about. If you're not calling the side of the ball or don't have a long history of doing it like Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick and those guys are outliers like it's been the downfall of John Harbaugh. These last five or six years what what's his true judgments? He making it halftime. I know what Doug and McVay. It's wine even bullish on my Kyle shaming when Jimmy Garoppolo is played cow, Shanahan six and two. I know he's a dynamic schemer Twi love the Bruce Arians higher. He's a dynamic offense gamer that. That's what I want out of a coach. That's what every owner wants out of a coach. Now, again, a lot of these hires are not gonna work, but I get why tweaker Adam gays. I don't know if you saw the press conference, but just Google it. I mean, he had some weird movements. I get what the jets were doing. You're getting a guy that can work with your quarterback and calls the plays on Sunday me heads are going to get smoked every single time in the NFL when it gets the mid January just look at the final four, you got Bella. Check, the smartest guy in the history of the league in the best coach, you got Andy Reid one of the most innovative offense of coaches in one of the most successful guys the last twenty years, Sean Payton Super Bowl champ. And like Andy one of the true great offense of mines in Sean McVay feels like Jon Gruden twenty years later, which happier. Jon Gruden like that's what it takes to get to the final four now dynamic thinkers, the meathead is dead. Let me tell you about my friends at Robin Hood, Robin Hood is an investing app. Dil? Let you buy and sell stocks ETF's options and cryptos all commission free. They strive to make financial services work for everyone. Not just the wealthy. Not intimidating way. For stock newcomers to invest with first time with confidence. Simple and intuitive clear design presented an easy to digest way. Here is the key though, no cost no commission fees. 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I'm not talking about a guy who made the Pro Bowl like Alex Smith. I'm talking legit Pro Bowl talent like Donovan McNabb. Do you playoff games? Andy Reid was involved with in Philadelphia. Nineteen. You don't have any of those games. He won ten ten playoff games in his career in Philadelphia. Ten I just say that loud ten playoff wins. For example, Sean McVeigh has one probably after this weekend. We'll still have one or it's hard playoff wins or difficult to get. They are. They are a challenge. In when he had a elite elite be strong a very good quarterback. He won games in the playoffs. His teams were legit factor. Well in the five games he had heading into yesterday in Kansas City. He'd only one one and some of those early teams on Kansas City. Their defense was elite. Jamaal Charles will still a baller like they were legit. And ultimately, you know, Alex Smith was there starve now, I know that the colts came storming back the one year and outs. Arguably the best game of his career that game. But the game that stand out to me are the Pittsburgh game at home a couple years ago when they lost. He just couldn't get it done the game last year against Tennessee. When Travis Kelsey got knocked out. Ultimately he was their downfall. When I look at this team, and this Kansas City team offensively is unreal. But because of the quarterback like their team compared to like three years ago chiefs Plath steam. Is not as good. I don't think they're not as complete by aiming means, I mean, some of those. You remember some of the teams that coach Reid had is first couple years in Kansas City. You know, Eric berry Justin Houston Tomlin, though, primes younger, Dante repo Derrick Johnson, a young Marcus Peters. Jamaal charles. They got Kelsey had a young Macklin younger Macklin Davor stacked, you know. This team is just it's Mahomes. I mean, you see what Andy is like when you give them a really good quarterback. I mean, they were in circles around the colts absolute circles, culture, good the culture solitaire. The colts are going to be a Super Bowl contended for the next potentially five or six years any back into them with the flawed team. Why because he has superstar quarterback coach read a legit quarterback. He's going to win games in the playoffs. Why I have a resume. I it's ten playoff wins in Philadelphia. You only had one in Kansas City. Guess what that's about to change because Kansas City their defense. Really? Can't get much worse. Secondary can't cover anyone the linebackers may their defense lines. Good. But I mean. They are not a good defense. Imagine in a couple years as the defense gets better. Like they're going to win big time with Mahomes now is once Andy wins the Super Bowl are we gonna think that much differently of them? I personally won't but Twitter and the media pundits. And fans will like he's been one of the most innovative head coaches in the last twenty five years, he has been one of the more consistent coaches beside Bella check of that time. And when he's had a big time quarterback. His teams have been a factor. And you know what? Now that has Mahomes. They are a factor again. And don't forget this either obviously McNabb and then Michael Vick. He drafted Nick foles. I was there like he liked him more than most of us and obviously got him in that building. And Doug was around him. You know, an Howie and all these guys played a role in drafting him too. But. Once you around Nick God guy. Great guy like Nick foles start at like any Bickham like Andy's vision on quarterbacks. It's just crazy. Just you know, like, I'm glad that Mahomes came along. And is as good as he is obviously just for our viewing pleasure as football fans. Because if you're not an AFC west fan beside the chiefs. He's awesome to watch. He he's box office. But he also makes Andy Reid look like he actually is an only coach a damn good coach and Bella Bellichik has got him historically. But I do think it's his time. And it's not easy to beat Brady and Belle check. But at home, and we'll get into this game, especially lot later this week. But he he's too good of a coach to have this narrative that he can't win the big game. Now, he hasn't won the Super Bowl. But he sure as hell is one playoff games. That's his twelve th playoff victory. Twelve player. Victories. Like, the likelihood that McVeigh Kyle Shanahan in all these other Shanahan McVay minions ever combined for twelve playoff victories is probably a stretch like twelve playoff victories. I mean, that's pretty stupid. And if he wins this weekend off thirteen like that number with Mahomes is only gonna rise. You know, as as society changes in many would say that we're getting softer. I've only lived so many years. So, but I was raised by someone my father passed last year he was in the seventies. So he was a generation that went to Vietnam, and they were raised by generation that fought in World War Two. So I think it's fair we're probably on the whole a little softer. But I also think you know, it's one of the most consistent themes in life that the older generation always thinks the previous generations a little softer. Now. I do think the millennials we have a little less pelts on the wall in some of those when they were growing up for sure. But I do think that one thing still rings true in football as in you know, as someone that now kind of basically runs my own little media company in business. You have to be mentally tough. Anyone that has any success financially will tell you like, it's all mental games. Now back I would say when my dad was growing up. You could have a lot of success in business just by being a tough guy just by out of ammo talking like the mob. But just I I knew multiple people growing up that were millionaires that did not have a high school diploma. They never even went to college because you could just be a tough minded SOB and just outlast out work people. Now, the games changed a little bit in two thousand nineteen but I still believe the most successful people like you don't need to be physically tough in most jobs, but you do need to be the meant usually the guy at the top of the pyramid in. Any organization is mentally a little tougher. I do think with football one thing that still rings true as the rules change as we talk about CT and hitting in the head and all that crap which should be talked about. But when you watch these playoff games for the last two weeks, you better be a team that is physically tough as any in the NFL to last even have a chance like the worst of vacation of football. If you're a soft team, you're going to get steamrolled, you really are. And like the chiefs team that I just saw on Saturday afternoon or when why Saturday afternoon was not like the chiefs team. We it's almost the year. Like, they brought a physical edge to them. But you see the New England Patriots shoved around New England or excuse me, San Diego as I like to on the chargers. I refused to call him LA like the Dallas Cowboys who were really physical got shoved around like there. A reason the eagles home because they were physically tough like being physically tough in a day and age speed matters a lot now being able to spread it out on offense matters a lot now. But when you have to I'll give the Cowboys credit for this like, you better be able to get a fourth and one in January, you might need to get a fourth and one in the second quarter of a game just to stay in it and tough teams get forth and one's not always the smartest teams because for the most part, I know what you're going to run. Right. And it shouldn't matter like, there are still an element of football. You don't want to two point play in short yard situation. Where even if you know, what common it should matter. I'm just tougher than you. There's still a point in January football in this game on Saturday and aero heads supposed to be freezing. Like, you better. Be a tough SOB to play in that game. Whoever wins or Sunday afternoon. Sunday night for you on the east coast like playing in ten degree, weather and not being a tough team. So in this day and age where all these teams are looking for speed in looking just for sexy stuff like you better be tough. Like, there's a reason that the eagles could hang because even on offense like Zakar Alcyone dropped the ball. But those guys are going over the golden Tate going over the middle of the field. Michael Thomas does break in tackles Julian Ataman, running guys over Travis Kelsey, just like even the sexiest offense players were making physical place. And then defensively you better have a throwback unit up front like if you don't have a great front. In football. I don't care how much the games change. You will not win in January. If you don't have a good defensive line. You won't win. It bell checks. Not your coach, you know. Like, you're even if you're a tough team. And I thought the colts were tough. I thought the chargers were tough. I thought the Cowboys were pretty tough team. Those were tough team. They got out tuft. So the level of physicality in the playoffs every yard is contested. Especially in a close game. You know, sometimes in blowouts, it just you just get hit. They hit you with the Mike Tyson shot. But as we saw that was one reason the Cowboys didn't quite go away because they are physically tough team. Like these off teams in the NFL. You look at any team that just has like the giants like they're soft to turn it around overnight. You got to be more physical. You know, you look at like the Browns are going to be a team that a lot of people are going to pick are they physical enough. Like are they physical enough? That would be my question more. That's kinda. Been the Steelers downfull there. So sexy on the outside. Can they really just kind of throw back and hit you in the mouth? Now, they have in the past this year. They didn't like it's usually the downfall of talented teams. There's team in the bay area that a lot of people are going to pick to pride abounds back with Jimmy Garoppolo comes back. They better get a lot more physical because they are not a playoff level team when it comes to toughness. They don't have that'd be in the forty Niners. Like you got to win up front in the playoffs. You gotta have guys that are just willing to take people's heads off, and that might not sound PC in this world. But I got news for you defenders they're not trying to injure anyone. But they're trying to inflict pain that still, you know, the most basic level the premise of the sport of that side of the ball. I'm trying to tackle you and hit you hard. So you'd think twice about doing that again in some offense of. Is the best ones in the big moments. You can lay him out, and he's going to keep coming like to me Julian Edelman had a I'm a champion multiple times over this is what I bring the table type playoff game. That was like, well, Larry FitzGerald was always this play his physicality rose when you looked at Todd girl CJ, Anderson's, good example, even chubby CJ Anderson. That guy's Ben in the playoffs knows the level in which it takes, you know. That's what makes the chiefs. Oh impressive that they're more quarterback driven. But clearly the patriots have it in the same kind of built like that too. Like, the softness does not translate in January. It's why I think you've seen the Steelers struggle so much last four or five years. Get over the hill. You got there's a throwback element to the sport. Specially these games that are played outside in freezing cold temperatures. Would you wanna get hit in fifteen degrees? Like, I live in the bay area's been fifty the last week freezing. Watching the chiefs game textiles and buddies on their squad. Like it was cold. It's going to be even colder on Sunday. You'd better be tough. Man. You better be a tough guy. You better have a tough team. If you wanna have a legitimate chance to win the Super Bowl. I'm Katie golden. I studied psychology and biology at Harvard, and I pretend to be a bird on Twitter and my new podcast creature feature. We've you nature in man from a new perspective each episode asking comedian to get inside the minds of animals, so we can explore the startling connections to human psychology, you'll find blood bands and treachery that make game of thrones seemed like a dumb show for babies. Join us every Wednesday and subscribe on apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. You know, I think everything that's been said about the patriots dynasty has been said. I mean, it's never happening again. This is their thirteenth championship game their eighth straight. I mean, these are not him in in the rest of my life told by fifty more years is going eight straight championship games. It's just not happening. Because also the likelihood the you would have that many. They've had the first round by all those years. So the likelihood that you're always going to be a one or two seed is just they have benefited from the division. But that's not why they're great. They're great because Abella check and they're great because Brady it's the all-time combo as someone text me yesterday in the early on in the game. They said what the hell are the chargers doing trying to get into a scoring match and a shootout with the patriots and Foxborough. Why didn't they attempt to control the clock? And keep the ball out of Brady's hands. You played right into bell. Check, tom. Josh. It was not a fair fight. It was Bella check. Put a clown suit on the charters that was an embarrassing effort. It's one thing right to get your ass kicked. It happens in pro sports. Michael Jordan's Ben got his but kick Montana's get his butt kicked it happens. But when you have the more talented team on paper and in reality and to have that team be up thirty five seven and a half in a game. Where listen did the chargers have to win. No, Philip rivers Brady owns them. And his career is going to go down with the major question Mark because he's probably never gonna win anything in the championship in somewhat defined also by their owner, that's cheap. But to be thirty five to seven and half in a game. When your team is that good is unacceptable in that's on the coaching staff one thousand. Percent. Like that game plan wasn't embarrassment and Brady and Belle check in Josh just ran circles around it. It was too easy. You cannot give them the dump down pass game because they they will take it. They will check down for five yards at a time until they score a touchdown have a seven minute drive, and they just gave it up. It just made no sense to try to get some shootout against this team. When the one thing the patriots kind of have on defense is a really good secondary. I mean, they have an all pro corner mcchord. He's been through the wringer in Bella check, that's kind of his bread and butter. He's a DB coach at heart. So for them to come out and try to get into a shootout and backfires immediately. And this was my knocked back to what I talked about earlier zero adjustment. They have no other pitch. Basically the chargers coaching staff was like a pitcher that throws ninety eight and went when a batter can't time it up. You're like, oh my God. That guy's throwing gas. You can't touch it. Well, I've also seen ninety eight giants fan guy named hunter Strickland throws right down the middle of the plate. And when you time it up Harper's done it. A couple of times the ball goes about seven hundred feet. And if you're playing it it's now actually called oracle that ball goes into the water. If you're playing wherever that ball goes over the fence in the chargers had one pitch and Bella check. They had that pitch timed up by like the second swing, and then it was a homerun derby in when you as a coaching staff in the second round of the playoffs. Do not have a curveball have a change up. Anything else to throw at them? And immediately realize this game plans, not gonna work to me, Bella checks, greatest strength. He will come in. They'll work all week, and it will not work. I was talking to someone in the NFL today. And I told him, you know, what I think Bella Tech's greatest rank this is he's one of the great. He's an all time. Football whore. Meanings. He will do whatever works whatever works on offense defense. He does not care if he thinks it works or it. He seen at work against team he will implement and coach and figure out how to work it. Coach's won't like cow Shanahan, Sean McVay. Like, they have a staple on offense. What's the patriots staple in office scoring points? I mean, if you're giving them the run game, they'll run down your throat, if you're giving them the deep passing game, they'll d pass you to death. If the play action works I'll go play like they have no offense. What is their offense? I think score touchdowns. What is their defense? Three four four three that they are not defined by anything like, you know, exactly what the chargers are in. When they can't do it. They're screwed. That's the great thing about Bella. Check like my pitcher analogy like one day. He looks like Randy Johnson the next day. He looks like Greg Maddox the next day. He looks like Jamie more the next day looks Trevor Hoffman. You never know what you're gonna get you strike out. All the time. It's why win so much. You have no clue what pitch is gonna throw zero Sony. Michelle had been pretty terrible all season long. He's working keep home and keep giving him the ball. He's like do gets hot like basketball just. Keep feeding in the rock Brady is the great eagles quarterback we've ever seen because like his numbers. Look good. But he doesn't force anything. It's never about him or his numbers. It's just about the team the numbers, always come. Because when you have a good offense. And you're just moving the ball. Like, you're gonna accumulate yards and touchdowns like, but you watch Tom you never feel like, you know, he's force in this. Now just lets it come. It's why Winnie mistake makes a mistake. You know, it's kind of I opening e when he makes a terrible mistake as he did a couple of times this year, it's Jodran ping. But the one thing you saw on that playoff game. He ain't making mistakes. Now, when it's cutting time, you may beat them, but and can be because he chokes or playing bad, you know, in the playoffs years going to beat them, which happens is the highest level of sports the most competitive football league in the world. I mean. Chiefs might beat them by two touchdowns because I got beat not because they more prepared not because they weren't ready not because quote unquote Brady chokes like if he throws a pick in the fourth quarter. It won't be because he choked he'll just because he made a bad play. Like rivers was even ready for that game. Like, he was like had they practiced. What do they been doing all week in southern California? Like, you know, feeling themselves on the previous win against a quarterback that couldn't throw that was an embarrassing win for or a loss for the chargers and just a not legacy defining, but just another pelt on the legacy that is the dominance of this patriot run because it was a four point line for reason. The patriots are never, you know, a home favorite in the second round. And that game is not like seven to ten points. It was four points because the chargers on paper were unreal. But the reality is that it didn't matter to bell, Jack he smarter than them. Brady's better and smarter. And they ran circles around him for sixty minutes for sixty don't get it. Twisted. Those hollow touchdowns Rivard through at the end of the game. I know they're hollow. Because I was playing against a guy that had him on the daily fantasy team. They were meaningless the game was over at the end of the first quarter. And that's a testament to the dominance of of the hoodie and Brady. Middlekauff mail bag. You can always slide up in my DM's and all answer questions here right here on the podcast at John middlekauff is my Instagram handle. It's also my Twitter handle. It's basically the easiest way to get a hold of me. Honestly, if you DM me on his aggression or tweet at me, it's probably and I mean this sincerely in anyone. That knows me would probably agree that is easier to get a hold of me if you have my cell phone number now, unless you're yeah. I mean, unless you're like, Colin, my mom. Sometimes couple other business partners. Otherwise, I'm probably not picking up just young young people. Don't pick up phone calls a lot below. Okay. Let's start. With all the big dick Nick has done. I continue here people suggesting that we trade Wentz, which I think is crazy. I think he is one of if not the best young quarterback in a leak. Someone is evaluated who has evaluated talent. What do you think are the top ten quarterbacks under thirty? Also is there anything Nick could do to make you trade Wentz? If won the Super Bowl, it would have been. I don't know impossible to get rid of them. But he didn't. And he really didn't play that. Well, I had him on my draftkings lineup. He started hot. And then he wasn't very good in the second half. He heated up on that last drive, but he missed them. I wouldn't say layup throws. But definitely throws. Did he had hit before indefinitely throws heated last year? So if I go my top ten quarterbacks thirty rounder Wentz would definitely be on there. I'm gonna go in no particular order to the two guys at the top are luck in Russell, which I both think are twenty nine then let's just fire through. I got the basically got the divisions up patriots dolphins buffalo jets. So obviously the first two teams don't have a guy. I would not throw Josh Allen or Sam darnold in there. Yet ravens. I mean Lamar can't throw Steelers don't have one. I put Baker right on the fringe Bengals don't have one. Sean Watson in already said lock mariota. He'd be toward the bottom. I mean to be in the top ten you could say this about Wentz. Here's one thing about once. They made the playoffs two years in a row in a playoff game started. He was not available. Like, that's a problem mariota. Now. I think is finished three of his four seasons on the sideline. So like now, I'm not comparing Wentz and Mary auto Wentz, much more talented. But hey, hey, Carson, you've been someone told me he was hurting highschool certain college. He's turned again in the pros. I'm a huge Carson Wentz guy. His talent is undeniable. But God he's got to stay healthy Jaguars don't have one. I mean, Patrick Mahomes shit. I mean, I don't know top three he's up there, clearly, not even deniable. I mean, he's had one of the great seasons. If he goes to the Super Bowl, even if you take out his age, which is like what twenty three years old if you just subtract his age. He. Could be thirty two. You know, if you grow fifty touchdowns, and then the leisure team to the Super Bowl that win or lose a sumo. It's just one of the great all-time NFL seasons. You know, he's right on the cusp right now. Just being in the championship game. Chargers. Don't have one Broncos don't have one. I'm Derek Carr guy. I don't think he played that. Well this year. He's definitely on the fringe of top ten under thirty guy. I'd put him in there. Because he definitely have the talent. He has more tools than a lot of these guys. Mariota have head of all those guys Dak had have him ahead of. I wouldn't have him ahead of wince. Redskins. Giants don't have one. I'd put car or head of Mitchell. Cousins, I think is over thirty Rogers old Stafford older breeze old Mattie ice old Cam. I think is thirty James just I actually do think he could bounce back Brazilians, but he has not played. Well, he's had moments. I watched a decent amount of Tampa. Like when he's when he's hot. They can score twenty one points in the quarter. But more than any other player in the league. Feels like he can go stretch were like four straight passes three of them. Get picked James what are you doing? Now that should get fixed with the new bald. Headed coach Goff yet have near the end. I think Jimmy is really good. And I'm Rosa guy. But he hasn't really proven anything. So, you know, I think it's pretty up for debate that group they haven't really separated themselves. Whence can't stay healthy cars kind of been up and down. I thought he was a really talented one same with Jimmy like, I think Jimmy's really good. But he started ten games have been hurt twice. Like part of being really good like Brady doesn't miss games. Right. Philip rivers has played every game for like fifteen years. Like, drew Brees mistime. These guys got to stay healthy. I whether it's random whether it's self inflicted, whatever. Like you get paid in this league. In a lot of these guys are top picks. So even if they haven't signed their second deal, if you're the number one or number two or hell top ten draft pick you're getting like fifteen twenty million dollars. So they're still paying you a lot. You got. A play in a lot of these guys are not playing. Let's see. Okay, poorly. Ran franchises a relatively easy to spot due to their dysfunction lack of winning Cleveland. Oakland, Detroit Miami, for example, but better run franchise harder spot because it began be covered up by good coaching or quarterback play over the last fifteen years. What would be your top ten got? I'm getting a lot of top ten question. That's hard ranking the best NFL front offices. Okay. Well, I think number one by a mile is New England number two. I think Seattle's had a pretty unreal. Six or seven year run. Right. I mean this year was kind of a muscle flex, and they had a five year stretch where it was mind blowing the Steelers are right up there. Andy's kind of had to iterative of his career. But what he didn't Philly, you know, with the Howie Rosen's the Jason lights, the the guys that came through that are now GM's other places all the coaches that came through so just kind of his unbrella and I worked for how. Oh, yeah. I saw all good talent. He hired over the years in. Now. He's done it again hiring. Joe Douglas, you know to run their personnel department. So I put Philly right up there for sure I wouldn't necessarily put the colts up there though. They've won a lot the last twenty years like to me they are now they're well run with Ballard. But forever. It was just like Peyton in luck in don't get me wrong. I mean Poland's a hall of Famer, but they were run, but those guys have been gone for a while. I put the Broncos up there. But I feel like they're kinda lost Jerry some credit like the Cowboys the last seven or eight years have been pretty well run. Giants. No the Packers. I mean, they've produced so many general managers they've hit a rough patch. But I mean, they won for a long stretch of time for reason. But I think there's New England. And then there's like a group or six or seven teams Philly slash Andy. The steelers. That's about it. You know? It's it's hard. It just they're not many good ones. They're just reason. Like the eagles have made the playoffs like sixteen times in the last twenty years. There's a reason the Steelers were always in the playoffs. Most teams are not consistently in the playoffs. It's really it's really pretty nuts. As a pretty good question. Hey, John, new listener enjoying the podcast. Thanks giants. Obviously have huge need a quarterback to fill although Wayne Haskins. Is more the prototypical quarterback and likely to have more longevity in his professional career. How much would the giants consider drafting Kyle Murray if they did decide to go with a quarterback at six what an offense bolstering Beckham Barkley in Murray instantly, be one of the most dynamic and unpredictable in the game today. I mean, you know, we make fun of like in the NBA league pass like back in the day when Steph curry kinda hit the scene, and they the war started rolling. Everyone's like, oh, you got league pass the warriors. If there wasn't equivalent of league pass. And I mean there is the Sunday ticket. But if that was the trio Kyla Murray Odal Beckham and saquon Barkley with. I'm a big Ingram guy to like. Wow. I'd watch a lot of giants games. That would be really fun now. Listen, I'm sure we'll talk about Cuyler. I think officially today he declared for the draft. We kind of knew that was coming for a while. My only concern, and I'm not trying to sound like get off my lawn old school scout. But it really is going to be a challenge for is remarkable as an athlete as he is. And for great is thrower as he is. Because he is a natural thrower of the football to play quarterback at five nine like if you were a betting man in. I said, let's say you're rich like relatively rich where you had you had fifty thousand dollars cash, and you could bet on him succeeding or failing. You would be stupid to not bet on concealing just because the odds of him succeeding at his is like if he goes number six overall. That would mean a guy at five foot nine the played quarterback went six like it was crazy last year with Baker. But he was still shade over six, right? I mean, there's a big difference. You meet a guy that six feet tall. And a guy that's five nine like that's six is on the low low low end of hype for NFL quarterbacks like on the statistical chart now don't give me wrong. I would love to see that. That would be. I'm all in like that really cool. That would be awesome. I just think when the dust settles. I think he's going to go in the first round for sure. But I wonder if this top ten talk for guy that's five nine in like they have these things during the draft process called the top thirty visits meeting beside the combine you can bring in in pro days, and everything you can fly thirty people into your facility like is a big part when I worked in the office for a couple years that period after the combine up until the. Draft you bring in either character guys or mid round guys? You're interested in that may have some issues that you wanna talk whatever you could bring in whoever you want. But you only get thirty of them. I would imagine he'll take. Thirty two NFL teams. I takes twenty visits because if you're gonna convince an owner to draft this guy really high they're going to want to see him in person in most owners beside like Jerry Jones, don't go to the combine. So they're going to want to see this guy facility in imagine. If you're like, I'm just using hypothetical like the giants and you bring him to the facility in like the team's working out like him walking. He'll look really small. It's gonna turn teams off. I'm just telling you right now. Get ready for it. It's turned teams off not necessarily me. But I am I am a little apprehensive. I'm not I can't push all my chips in the middle table. You can sell me. I came around. I probably wouldn't taken them one. But I did believe that Baker Mayfield was a legitimate top ten prospect. So if you take eight why did you take one, but he was a prototypical pocket. He was like drew Brees. If you liked them. You saw drew Brees like. If you like Kylo Murray, you see Michael Vick, but way smaller now as someone in the league told me he's way more accurate. So that's that's important. I just think he's an all time like scouting conundrum. You know, I do think there are some parallels to like eight years ago with Steph curry when people saw Steph, and it's different because Steph while he's small he's not like that he still six foot three. So even the small end of of NBA point guards, it it'd be like if Steph there was a Steph curry in basketball that was five ten, but it's still like what everyone's like no way could really be described in the pros. Nobody's gonna build shoe like that. And he did I think everyone's gonna try to talk themselves ally. No ways really going to be able to see and maybe there. He's just really instinctive Keiler is used to be in small. So he can see things that he shouldn't be able to see because he's granted Oklahoma. They had a big offense of. Line. It's like Baker was small, but he played in front of big offense of line. So he can see in part of it is like he can't maybe actually see. But he's instinctive by drew Brees. Like drew Brees is throwing a lot of guys areas. You know? And that's where I think if you're a Baker guy you saw some flashes of drew Brees this year in his game. But like it was kind of an easy comp. Because Baker was really accurate like who is Kyla Murray's comp. Now, you don't always need cops. But they do help, you know, like when you say, I really like a Devon white of LSU. I think we should take him. Let's say I'm like. A raider scout at number four. I want to take this guy. Number four. He reminds me of roquan Smith in. Let's just hypothetically say as similar measurements. It's easier sell when I go I think we should draft. Kyla Marie at number six. I'm giant scout. Well, who does he remind you? Well, he doesn't really remind me of anyone which is a positive, but it also can be a negative. They'll be like well, each just going to be some all time outlier. And if he does succeed he will be. I mean, that's just the K. That's just the reality. Is it just me? Or did it look like luck shoulder severely hindered? In the chiefs game knows it on his passes. And every ball was in the dirt. I wonder if he'd benefited a lot this season. You know what I mean, they planted dome and the shoulder injury. You know, I can imagine that playing in that cold, and it wasn't frigid cold. But it was cold. It had been snowing was this hard for to get loose because you're right. He was terrible. I mean, he he looked awful and the end of the day if you're colts fan or even an NFL fan like these guys in the dome like if drew Brees had to go through Chicago to get to the Super Bowl, he probably wouldn't get there. But he plays like if they get a one or two seat. He's gonna play home games like as long as luck can get a one or two seat moving forward. He's not gonna win many games. At Foxboro at Kansas City, you know in at Baltimore at Pittsburgh. But he might not have to if you can win the south consistently gets twelve or thirteen wins. They can play games in the dome. It's what Peyton did when Peyton finally got to the Super Bowl the first time with the colts. He didn't do it. At foxboro. He did it the crazy comeback in the dome. You don't want drew Brees who they beat the Vikings. Get money beat him in the dome. You know, if they go to bowl this year it'll be in the dome. So yeah, I mean luck doesn't have a great arm. But I I really think that. Did it benefits especially with an injured guy? And who doesn't have a great arm. It helps when he planned the dome. So yeah, that's pretty good question at John middlekauff. You can hit me up whenever you want in my Instagram or Twitter. Just holler at me. 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BGN Radio #36: Wentz Tells His Side

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BGN Radio #36: Wentz Tells His Side

"Ladies and gentlemen. Can I please have your attention? I've just been handed in urgent and horrifying news story. All of you. Listen. Hello, bleeding, green nation and welcome back to the N radio. I am John Stolnis from leading green nation dot com. Follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis. And coming up. We've got a big show. Once again, we're gonna talk some Nick foles free agency, the latest rumors and rumblings and what the eagles might do with him franchise or not franchise. Carson Wentz responded earlier in the week to that Philly voice peace and he was on the radio a couple times this week too. So we'll get into some of the stuff that he said, and we'll get some takes on the different coaching moves that the eagles have done this week and go over the Super Bowl fifty three and the Super Bowl odds for next year. Haven't had a chance to give you are thoughts on Super Bowl fifty three. But joining me as he does every week here on radio is the brains behind the operation at bleeding greed, nation dot com, may he reign forever. Brandon Lee doubt in you can follow brand on Twitter at Branagan b L g how you doing buddy. John. I'm excited in really doesn't have anything to do of eagle for the sixth. There's just beat the nuggets new big five very excited about that talk about that little bit before the show. Of course, the Phillies are I don't know if they have me cited. I don't know what to think I think they have the best catcher in the league now. Right. So okay, that's cool. Ignoring everything else along with it. I'll take it. And hopefully, the Bryce Harper and get the really excited about something. But we're not here to talk about that. We're hearing about talk about the right? If you wanna talk about the Phillies, and you wanna talk about the Sixers go check out our our friends at liberty ballers for your Sixers needs. And of course, I host a Phillies podcast called hitting season. As most of you guys probably know about you can catch that show on the good fight podcast feed. Again, all part of the espionage and family and for flyers fans. There's broad street hockey radio, of course, again, just check all those guys out on apple podcasts and rate. Subscribe in review, just like you would for this particular podcast. But yes, we're going to jump into some eagles stuff here. And let's start off where we've started off the last few podcast. It start off with Nick foles here b L G because obviously his future is still a big topic of debate in Philadelphia. I think it's pretty much a guarantee he's not going to be in Philadelphia next year. The eagles officially picked up his two thousand nineteen option for twenty million dollars and for people who have not been following along with us over these last few weeks that perk their ears up thinking, oh the eagles picked up his option. But as we discussed over these last couple of weeks, they only did that. So that foles could then activate his opt out to give the team back two million dollars. And the eagles are now reportedly considering placing the franchise tag on him and working out a potential trade. Now g there were reports this week that the eagles plans to do that to put the franchise tag on foles only with the intent of trading him would violate the collective bargaining agreement. What's your take on that? Is that is that a no no because it's it feels to me like that's been done a couple of times in the past. You kind of feels like one of those things that technically is a role. But doesn't really get enforced by the NFL just like kind of the tampering when it comes to some of these head coaches, you know, that are supposed to not exactly be hired officially before their season's over. But like we all knew Brian Flores will come to Miami. And we all knew Zack Taylor was going Cincinnati. So it's it's kind of just one of those things I feel like consider the source. They're like Florio always brings up the conspiracy angle. He's a lawyer. You know, so he goes into the fine details all that. And he's always like looking to kinda make something I feel like out of something. That's not as quite of a big deal. Probably as he's making it out to be. But I think when you talk about the franchise tag with Nick foles, I mean, it kind of all this has kinda come a little bit more clear, I feel like into focus recently and seems obvious to me. And I'm sure I think you would agree John that you cannot franchise tag, Nick foles unless you can under present trade shore. Like, you can't the you Hannah's be like, okay, we're gonna tag them and see what happens. There's no way you can't because the down. There is great. And then he can't train them the new screwed like you just have this twenty five million dollars cap it, and I just don't think it's possible that Howie Roseman to do that. No one. Is that dumb? I I don't even think Dave Gettleman are when some of the worst yams would even be that dumb. Like, it would take a special kind of dumb. I think to do that. So I think if I'd put the chances on falls getting franchise tag. I would say eighteen percent kind of an arbitrary number. I it's kinda low it's more than zero because we've talked about it. And how he Roseman so creative that you can't will it out and tirelessly you just can't something could happen expected. I I can't say zero it's likely I just don't end the whole report to about they're only gonna place the franchise tag on him because they want to keep them away from the giants or whatever. No, not going to do that. I don't even think they care that much to be honest with you. And that's my take on that. I think they're not deathly afraid of Nick foles go into the giants as some people might be. I really don't there especially they're not. Freed enough to do that at risk of putting twenty five million dollars on their cap. No way. Yeah. No. I agree with that. I think that whatever team if you are going to trade Nick foles if that is something the eagles are able to do. And I remain highly skeptical that that's what's going to happen as well. Then you have to just trade him to the team that gives you the best package, and if it's the Redskins or if it's the giants you have to face them twice a year than you, do it. I mean, the eagles traded Donovan McNabb towards the end of his career to the Washington Redskins. And that didn't hurt them. Now. Of course, McNabb was at the tail end of his career. He really didn't have a whole lot left in the tank, and I think the eagles new it, whereas foles, it's sure seems like has a lot more in the tank than McNabb it at that stage in his career. But the thing that I don't understand. And maybe the reports are not accurate. But that everything that I've been seeing is that the eagles would get likely. Probably max a third round pick for him in this year's draft. And if they just let them go to free agency, and he signs the kind of contract that we all think he's going to sign they'd get a compensatory. Pick in next year's draft probably around the maybe, but I think what are the like fifty fifty sixty forty that. They get a third round pick as a compensatory draft pick next year. I mean, it's close right? I mean, is it that my point is close enough that you that you run the risk even of of franchising and trying to trade them unless you know, somebody's willing to give you a two this year. I just don't see the upside. I mean, it's just the whole thing of the Compaq relying on that. It's just tough because you have to worry about a lot of different factors that go into. So it has to be Nicole signing that deal the toward the third, and it could be I don't know. But maybe it's worth, you know, it's still a very late third. This even after all the regular third round picks. Whereas, you know, if you can get a third this year from a team probably not gonna be team towards the quite the bottom of the draft orders, you're probably getting at least like a mid third round pick. So that's a difference. And you're getting it this year, and it's guaranteed part of the other thing with the Compaq waiting on. That is that if you're gonna make a move in free agency this year, I don't know that. They're making a big signing so much that it would cancel that out. But I mean, we we saw that rumor right about the the free top freedom pass rushers thing. So maybe that's kind of a factor into this. Why they're potentially trying to angle for getting that shirt thing of pick this year as opposed to trying to to wait on that compensate Ori pick because they may have a plan in free agency that they wanna spend big on someone. So that's something you have to figure and all that goes into the calculus of all this. And you know, it's up the high Rosa to make that decision. But yeah, I mean, I just. When we're talking about likelihood again, it just doesn't seem likely that they're going to put the tag on him. And I know some people have been saying like, and I, and I I guess I get it in a way. It's like isn't that kind of crazy, and you have this guy who's a Super Bowl v who's played? Well, and you just let them walk for nothing. I get that. Now, that's kind of like it's frustrating. You know me as a kid not understanding out things always worked. I was so frustrated that eagles just let you go. Like, I never understood that get we couldn't get anything for him. And again, I was a kid. I didn't understand it fully. But I'm saying like, I get where the frustration comes from just when you not even understand at all or just the emotional aspect to at all. It's it's certainly not the best thing in the world. And that's part of why there was that case to trade him last year. Now, you know, I'm not going to go back and argue that, but I'm just saying that was part of the argument for this was always likely to happen yet. He was going to walk in free agency. That was part of the argument for trading him last year. It wasn't just about trying to get him outta here or that he didn't have value to the two thousand eighteen because he clearly did. But I'm just saying part of the wanting him out last year was that you could get something for him for sure. And now at the very best you're getting a potential late third round pick in twenty twenty you know, again next year, which to wait for that. Pick two, and it's just it's not the most ideal situation. It's not the doesn't feel like the best way to maximize the value of the situation when you have this Super Bowl MVP quarterback in like all you can get the late third for him. Maybe. Yeah. I guess I just I I realized that picking early in the third and picking just after the third round that that is important that that that isn't nothing. But I guess that the thing is that they wouldn't do this unless they felt reasonably sure they had something in place. I is that fair is that fair to say like how he Roseman is not half. Yeah. Right milquet. Yeah. I mean, that's that seems like that would just be suicide if it to go into it blind. And it's possible to you look at last year during the Super Bowl week like it was still January. It was the last day of January when that Alex Smith trade broke with the with Washington in them training for him. So the can't make the trade official until March if they were Detroit, Nick foles. Yeah. But I mean, they still they can agree on negotiation right now. And it's only gonna back out of that deal because they did. They're like that would tie all bridges with the eagles that would mess up a lot of the reputation it hit around laying to for. Sure. Yeah. Like if if one of those teams from that Washington trae last year out Smith, go to Washington, a one of those teams backed out of that like they would be done, my Hanno, also trait. How could you trade with them again? I mean, they went against their word. So I don't not worried about that aspect so much. But yeah, so it's possible that it could get done. Again. You can't rule it out with Howie Roseman being here and him trying to find a way to get creative. I I don't think it's likely and then part of that too. Is you have to have Nick foles under that twenty five million to start the new league year know, what I mean, like, you it doesn't work where you just trade him in that money doesn't count right away 'cause traded him or you agreed to the deal before the new year begins like, I'm pretty sure that there's a order of operations here. The new league year begins, and you have to be under the cap, and you have to do that while fitting Nick falls under that twenty five million dollar mail. So that means you're gonna have to. Clear broom, basically just to have him on the roster. So you can then trade him, the gist of all this is that it's so complicated. And there's so many factors that that's what makes it unlikely not impossible. But just pretty unlikely. Let's talk about Carson Wentz a little bit here b L G. Because obviously now this is his team. I mean, barring catastrophe wherein, I I used to catastrophe. If Nick foles is on the team next year. I mean, obviously, something went very wrong. But I don't know we'd call it a catastrophe because you'd still have Nick foles. But you know, I wrote a piece for bleeding green nation dot com. This week talking about how it's imperative that Nick foles and Carson Wentz not be on the same team moving forward. And I there are some people. I'm sure who would maybe disagree about Nick foles being the quarterback or Carson Wentz being the quarterback. But I think most people would agree that having both of these guys together again is kind of untenable you can make an argument for one or the other. But it sure seems as though it's going to be Carson Wentz in all signs are pointing towards that. And the team has said that so we both agree. That's the right call. And now Carson Wentz responding to that. Really voice piece. And I also thought gosh, she was it was it. Mike seal ski who wrote a piece today about how we turn people into villains in. It's just kind of. It's kind of how we do it in Philadelphia. And really the the media does it in sports in politics, and in general news, we we have these heroes. And we as part of the narrative, they get turned into villains. And that's what's happened to Carson Wentz here during the course of this season. And he may he talked to a bunch of the beat writers earlier this week. And I thought this was the most important part. Beal Jay when he acknowledged that he quote, maybe wasn't the greatest teammate at times over the past year because he was emotionally kind of all over the place. Those are his words as he battled multiple injuries. He said quote you go through the ACL injury. And you're just one hundred percent determined to get back. That's like what my mind is on and looking back where things that may be neglected as a teammate, and as a friend because I was just so determined. And that's all that mattered went said, dude, that's what I was sent all year. You know, what I mean like, and we? Talked about it on the last podcast to like people think that these athletes are just like Madden characters when you're playing video game. What's going on at home doesn't come into play? What your relationship is with your teammates? What you what it is? You're going through coming back when you lose a guy in Madden for a year. He comes back and he's fine. The next like, you know, there's none of the emotional and mental stuff that goes into what actually happens with real people and people saying, you know, just needs to get over it. Stop looking over his show whence was going through stuff. We talked about it on the podcast last week. He was going through stuff. And I think what he just said is exactly what I was thinking. He was kind of going through this year. It's like that took a mental toll on him. And I think that's why we're going to see a very different quarterback in two thousand and two thousand nineteen g does very well said, they're Jonah. We talked about it again. Like, we said on the last podcast believe or at least one of these multiple times. Yeah. In the recent. Yeah. Just the cow heart. It wasn't him. And I think it's just it's so. Impossible for us to even understand that you hit the nail on the head of the Madden comment. Like, it's just so easy to think of things in that sense. Look, we live in the Madden generation Riley. I grow playing that in like, we just you just get used to that kind of line of thinking, you don't think about an in. You know, what shows that we don't really give any weight to that is when the higher Doug Peterson. And there was all this talk about emotional intelligence in pretty sure everyone myself included was like that's just like who doesn't mean. Anything like we don't the best coach it has turns out clearly was some importance to that aspect of the job. And really if you look at Doug Peterson. It's probably probably is number on quality. And it probably matters a lot as you look at how those players play for him and they play hard from him. So that means a lot. And I think it's something that we can't really value properly with Carson Winston, I was glad to see those kind of pieces come out from Carson this week the things that he said now, you know, I think you have to give a lot of credit to the PR staff here. I really think there they set the message for. Him into Carson's credit? You know, he really stuck with the message. I don't think all players do that. I think PR people try to guide players sometimes and they don't necessarily stick to that. Or they're not able to or or they don't want to quite frankly. But Carson, did you know he fell in line. And I think he even if what he said was kinda rehearsed in the sense of it was what they wanted him to say, I think it came off genuine to me it wasn't like lip service. If L real to me from what I could see what I took out of it. And I listened to his interviews. An I read them all so again to me, none of this really matters. Like 'cause I go back to what I said on the emergency podcast after this whole report came out like if Carson Wentz is literally like the best teammate in the entire world, and he sucks next year. Guess what it doesn't matter? Like that's the bottom line like these gonna be judged ultimately on how he plays. And conversely, if he's the worst he may, but he is the MVP the league, and he's the Super Bowl MVP doesn't matter. It's it's just it all comes down to how he performs. It is a he. Huge year for him in two thousand nineteen as we've said all along the pressure is on him to perform and people are gonna be paying attention to him closely to off the field. So that's going to be a factor. But I think is one of the biggest things that kinda got missed in the Philly voice report. I think Carson was different last year in two thousand eighteen and uncharacteristically. So and I think that's what that kind of story like got at. But I don't necessarily know if it like forced reinforced that enough for or kind of stressed that point enough because it just seems like he was different in out of character. And I think, you know, having this situation to be different this year in two thousand nineteen where the slate is wiped clean in the sense of Nichols gone. And he's going to be able to kind of reclaim his team again. I think that's gonna help him. Now. We'll see if that's the case but going into I that's how I feel. Well, I think so too because it's hard to play looking over your shoulder. I don't care how good you are. And I mentioned in the piece, and I've think I've referred to it. On the podcast. It does remind me of the Joe Montana. Steve Young thing where you've got these two great quarterbacks and Joe Montana as great as he was was looking over his shoulder summit. Steve Young now Joe Montana manage to win. I think it was what three Super Bowls doing that. So I mean there are some quarterback second put behind them. But Joe Montana also had a number of years under his belt. He already had a Super Bowl title under his belt before Steve Young came along. And by no means Nick foles, Steve Young. And by no means is Carson Wentz Joe Montana. But when I talk about this situation, I talk about to starting caliber quarterbacks who both wanna start. They both wanna play. It's hard to have a team where that dynamic exist, especially when the backup quarterback is the guy who won the Super Bowl the year before in dramatic fashion. So Carson Wentz had a lot on his plate. He had a lot to do to try and get back on the field and at the end of the year again it all fell apart because of injuries. I can't imagine the frustration that he. He must have felt last year. But I know that coming into this season. He's going to be under a ton of pressure. Like, you said this is a big year coming up for him. It does make me wonder, and I think I know the answer to this question B L G, but do you think they will work out a long term extension for him this year because I think actually getting an extension done. Now. Lessens the pressure on Carson Wentz. I know that that makes me run counter to what most people think because you signed a big money deal. The city's going to expect him to live up to that deal. But what it does to me is it in sconces him and leaves no doubt in the mind of anybody in the city that he is the guy moving forward. No matter what happens in two thousand nineteen to just say sconces. Are we talking about Carrie will? No. I'm looking at it. I'm looking at a wall sconces right now. And that's why absolutely never not able to carry Williams. You think of Scott doesn't come up in conversation. Very often. So there. Yeah. Well, only with him. So when I forgot what you focused. That's fine. I'm just saying like, you know, the the contract. Do you think Carson Wentz will get his own term contract this offseason, and what kind of do you? Yeah. They should why not clearly the guy even if you don't think he's the guy. He's clearly there guy like that much is clear, even if you don't want Carson Wentz to be the quarterback, which is dumb, by the way, they're not moving on from there like who they moving onto the draft someone after this year is Nate Sud feld who is a restricted free agent this year, then will will therefore be under strict regent next year. Gonna be the answer. I don't think. So like for better for worse that are all in on Carson Wentz in why not kinda if you sign him to that extension now, I. Least I feel like that's what you're getting the best value. That's what you want to even putting the mental stuff aside. The eagles can go to Carson Wentz. And now, maybe this is why Carson Wentz wouldn't one sign the deal, by the way is they can go to agent and be like looked Carson is a really incredibly talented individual. We're going to give him a lot of money. But they're going to be some things here that prevent it from being the biggest deal in the sense that he's had some injuries shoes. And there have been some questions off the field as the report came up. And I think they can use some of those things to kind of drive the price down a little bit. And now not like talent. It's not going to be like they're going to get him at a bargain to saying you kinda just makes it a little bit more manageable than it would be if say, you waited until next offseason, and let's say he has another year like he did in two thousand seventeen and he's the MVP that you're gonna have to probably pay a lot more than you would have this offseason. So I just feel like an S M O to you look at disastrous contract and the. Lane Johnson contracts that were signed years ago part of why how he rose me gets a lot of credit is because in the eagles has a whole philosophically is because they typically pay those guys early and there's a risk in doing that. Because if you pay them early, and then they stink than you're stuck with that contract. But if you pay them early, and they turn out to be just as good as you think they are then they're bargains. Because that's why is accurate in lane. Johnson are right now, they're really good contracts for the caliber of player they are. And they're signed until like, I don't know twenty twenty something like they're locked up long-term. You don't even have to worry about it. That's the awesome thing about that kind of deal. So I think that's what you ideally want with arson. I think you wanna go in and try to get him on a deal like that. And the incentive for him is that he knows he's had some injury shoes. He wants that stability, and maybe it's just not the financial stability. But like you said kind of mental stability of all to like, hey, this team is offering me on term deal. This makes me feel good about myself. I AM The Answer here. That shows they have confidence me then I have confidence in myself. I'm gonna go out and make them prove it to them that I'm worth this deal. And I think that's what would be ideal to me is. Yes, you should get it done. Because what are we waiting for like, what's what are we waiting for? Otherwise. I don't I don't know. I would we we'd wait on it. No. I don't either. I think that now is the right time for the eagles to strike in like, you said whence might balk. But I think Wentz doesn't strike me as a guy who wants wants to get paid probably the most that he can get paid. He wants to make the most out of this and the union the always part of the so, but I think it makes all the sense in the world for these two teams to get it done. Now, I really hope that they do for a number of different reasons as we've both kind of laid out. But I think that's where we stand with foale's and Wentz right now. Maybe by the next time we chat, we'll have a better idea. Maybe some more of an indication where foles might end up. You know, this quarterback, quote unquote controversy will will finally be able to put it to bed soon here. Bill because I think that's really what we all want to not have to talk about Wentz versus foles anymore. Coming up. We're going. Going to talk a little bit about some of the coaching moves the team has made over the last week and give you some of our thoughts on Super Bowl fifty three. We'll do that more coming up right here on BGN radio. Hey, everybody. How you doing? Well, that's good. My name is Bill Matt's. I am the director of fun games for broad street. Hockey radio podcasts. I am Kelly the deputy managing editor of brush hockey dot com. I'm step driver. The NHL editor manager Espy nation. And I am Charlie O'Connor lead flyers writer for the athletic dot com. And together we make up BS h radio one of the shows that you get at the Espy nation podcast family. We have a lot coming to you this year. And we want you to listen to or show. It is just an all flyers all the time show so much content. I really hope you listen to it. It is a great piece of the SP Asian podcast family along with all your other favorite sports. We all love hockey, specifically the fires. Let's go the flyers the hockey team. Liars and we're back on radio. John Stolnis and Brandon league out and chatting with you about the eagles. And we got some coaching moves to talk about here Beal G, and once again, we're seeing a trend here with the eagles man were seeing them all promoting from within. And I know this is something that we talked about on the podcast this year. Not a great trend that we've seen from this team of doing basically keeping everything in house moving guys up from the ranks. Usually, I like the idea of that I like the idea of promoting from within and the the business I work in espec-, specifically the place, I work, we tend to try and do that. But in this case, I'm not sure it's awesome. So the eagles promoted defensive quality control assistant defensive line. Coach Phillip Daniels to the to the defensive line coach position assistant wide receivers. Coach Carson Walsh has been promoted to wide receivers. Coach Arkansas, this one's big for you, baby, Arkansas. Yeah. This is the. A big one Arkansas offensive analysts in Cuba. Coach g Jay Kinney has been hired as an as an offensive assistant. We also heard this week that former eagle long, snapper. Mike Bartrum has been hired as tight ends coach evaluator just give me a quick overview on these moves, what do you think about them? I mean, the DJ thing is obvious beautiful, man. I saw I saw that. And I thought of you immediately man, it's amazing. I really appreciate all of these support that tweet happen and just ten people or more immediately. Just like, oh my gosh. Did you see this? Did you see this? Yes. I did see this. Thank you for letting me, obviously, I would know before all of you as the number one TJ Kinney supporter as always. But yeah, it's really cool. I like it, you know, my relationship if you wanna call G J is just that or my appreciation of him. I should say is just that. He was such a fun player when he was with eagles because he was willing. You know, it was the fourth string quarterback, but he lined up everywhere in practice. They wanted to safety lineup there. If you wanted to the he literally moved to wide receiver at one point. So like he would do anything to help the team. And I just think hopefully, you know, maybe that makes him a good coach one day 'cause he's kinda willing to do anything. He's a grinder. There's no limit agitated to anything in. He'll do it. So that'd be cool. Apparently he was kinda around the team a little bit late in the season in. Hey, I'm the saying eagles had their best run late in the season. Because it could it be that. Can he was there? And he turned around the team. I mean, say the you can't you can't rule that out. Dismiss it note. Carson w being promoted eagles wider C, which go crazy. I mean Carson w in all this controversy this off season about him being selfish, and controlling all the sudden promoted to wider seats code. So that's kinda crazy everyone really enjoyed that. One. By the way, where article Arsim w was promoted eagles. Cues click bait wasn't click Nickless. Hoofing off as having fallen with a boring story. I don't know a lot of these these coaching hires. You never know exactly what to make him. I think that gives me you kind of mentioned it is just feels uncreative to me when you're kinda always hiring the guy, you know, instead of maybe interviewing people as a whole, and maybe hiring someone who impresses you the most as opposed to just knowing someone and all these hires are there, either internal promotions. Or you know, you look at Matt Burke who they hired the dolphins defensive coordinator. That was Jim Schwartz guy. Those guys are tight you look at the assistant offensive line coach they hired a ROY Esten net guy is one guy. Those guys are tight. So it's like maybe a little bit more creative. I dunno might not be a big deal. So I don't I don't really know if it matters a ton. I it's kind of a little bit annoying, especially when you look at the situation we're in last year, and I talked about a ton of times with Mike grow or just felt like they prioritized offense coordinator and head coach. Ch- in quarterback owed so much when this regime was put together back in two thousand sixteen like they really went out of their way to emphasize that like all the time. It was a huge selling point of that coaching staff and all the sudden last offseason. I remember going back recently in seeing the there wasn't even a plan to interview other outside candidates. So they didn't even do that. They automatically decided to promote from within just think that's a mistake. I get the whole idea of wanting to ward or builder rewarding culture. I get that there's merit to that. You can't even interview other candidates from the outside. I think that's lazy. Like, why wouldn't you? Why what are you losing by like interviewing other people? Even if you're not gonna hire them, you could at least have them in mind down the road, or you know, you could maybe pick their brain for some ideas. I I don't know. I'm not crazy about automatically promoting from within. All the time says how I feel. Yeah. No, I agree with that. I think you have to look outside the organization, but I do think when you have a successful team like the eagles have had. And I know the offense struggled for. Much of the early part of the season. But some of that could have been due to some of the some of the shuffling in and out of some of the players. Obviously Carson Wentz was not completely himself. But we also we also micro did not do a good job running this offense for most of the season. It picked up a little bit towards the end of the year. It picked up a little bit. When Jay Kinney was. That's right. The missing link as you mentioned. But maybe that's maybe that's part of it. We don't know exactly. What was going on with the eagles offense this year? But there was a drop off it when Frank Reich left, and and and I'll grow going to call them Albert. Yeah. Jonty Filip, but Mike grow came in and took over the offense. And you know, a lot of that we were complaining about the fact that they just didn't get any outside voices. And you know, you don't wanna be in a warped bubble note. No matter how good you are. No matter how good your offense of scheme in your system. Is it does help to have some outside perspective. So maybe it's not all that big a deal when you're talking about the defensive line coach, I mean because Jim Schwarz's is running that. Anyway, you know, but at the same the talents is so good has what you really need to get out of those guys more. Exactly, I mean, that's that's supposed to be a loaded group anyway, and it'll probably get better at the draft and during the during free agency. So it's not like you have to try and squeeze every last drop out of a limited a limited group. So, but yeah, I think you don't want this just to be the the blanket way, they do it moving forward. You wanna be able to see them? You wanna see that? They're willing to at least bring in some outside people. So. We'll see again, these are not these are not huge moves. These are not you know, these are not earthquake causing coaching changes. But you know, these are important positions that especially Jay Kinney be Eljay is going to be a major addition to the to the eagles coaching staff. All right talk about something about Super Bowl, fifty three Brandon. We didn't get a chance to chat about this. It's almost a full week old now, and it does feels like it was a longtime ago already. I think it's this game became a game. That was forgotten almost as soon as the gun sounded, you know for. I mean, this game will be the only thing people are going to remember about this game. Is that it was? Hopefully, Tom Brady's last Super Bowl victory or Bill. Bill checks last Super Bowl victory was number six for them. Congratulations. I guess you know, when winning six Oakland try. I, you know, even trying to be the bigger man here. Just doesn't feel good. I'll be honest with you. But at the end of the day g when you sat down on the couch who did you end up rooting against. And I notice said rooting against. And are you happy with the outcome? I was fine with it. I love come on. I did not want the Rams to win. I we talked about this. It would have been so much more knowing if there are you know, that the patriots won right now today. Not no, no, no. Who is like is anyone really hung up on that still? I don't think. So. I mean, you might look at it and be like annoying. Yeah. But it's nothing more than that. It's nothing more than like, maybe a minor inconvenience as opposed to look if the Rams one I guarantee you you would not feel that same way right now, you would be like a because there'd be like a million think pieces on how Sean McVeigh is the best coach maybe ever, I think I'm exaggerating there. I think that would be an actual piece if that was I think it would be if the Rams because he just beat the the best coach. So now as he the best coach ever even though diabetes into that last year. So for me, it was amazing day for my brand, which is obviously most important and that McVeigh he's not I caught him a fraud after the that's probably a little little too harsh. I I don't think he's a fraud in the sense that I think he's a bad coach. I I think he's a good coach. I don't think he's a great coach. And I think you saw that in the Super Bowl, I think he was such a coward. First of all by not going for them for three n in territory again as he's done pretty much all year long. He's a coward. And then he ran cowards drawl on third and twenty two instead of passing it take a shot deep. So what if it gets picked off it's like upon at that point? I take a shot. So that's that's pathetic to me. And then how Jared Goff is like I feel like getting more blame than McVeigh's like he's almost like taking the brunt of it. And it's it's not McVeigh's fall. It's it's all goff's fault. They come on give me a break out in by the way. Did you see that video? I was gonna talk to you about. Yes. Oh my God. It's so pathetic. It is kissing this. But yeah, so you're the best coach ever people who people who don't know what we're talking about NFL films deleted it. John to lead didn't the video because it was so embarrassing. I bet you McVeigh or someone or someone on the Rams like you have to take this down because this is dislike Crans level embarrassment where McVeigh's dislike kissing Bill belts. But I think Bill bell even felt like weird. Because again is like, yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. He's like he wanted to get away. From like, this is like this is a little too weird, man. Like Bella check is antisocial anyway. And so it was kinda, but for people who don't know what we're talking about NFL films released their what are their Mike segments from the Super Bowl. And, you know, during the pre-game the coaches meet with each other, and they talk and remember I remember Doug Peterson the famous scene is Doug Peterson Bill check talking about the game and Doug's like man, I there's a game's going to be played sometime today. Right. And you know, they're congratulating each other with mutual respect, but Doug is not kissing Bella checks. Iran. I mean, he's it's a respectful conversation. They're having a friendly conversation. But seemed to be like Doug felt like he was Bella checks. Equal just in that conversation. And that was my big takeaway from and it's like McVeigh's like you just greatest I think, you're amazing do everything. Right. Couldn't be prouder to be on this field with you. He was so deferential to Belichick. He clearly felt like Bella check was his superior any coached a game right there. Yes. In the game of loss. Right. I one hundred percent believe wing. Yup. It was so pathetic in Doug Peterson last year, by the way his exchange with Bill. They'll check was like, hey, man. He said something about like not having enough tape or something. I couldn't find much tape. When you guys were. Yeah. Yeah. Peterson these like it was hard to find tape. When you guys were when you guys are losing or something. Yeah. China US stuff that we could use against you. So you had Bella taxing dug in contrast this year. Also Doug Pearson in his book, literally said like I looked at ill bell, Jack. And I said oh on a kick your tail. I'm definitely gonna kick your tail apparently. Biltrite kinda talk trash a little bit. That was kinda included in the book as well. Some of that that wasn't caught on Mike up. There is some kind of reference to that. I don't know specifically bell check or someone from the patriots or what? But there was some kind of reference to that in the book. So I just love how that is contrasted there. And it just a man I I really do like that the scored the fewest points in Super Bowl history. You can cheat all the offense of genius stuff. Because that was that was pathetic. It was a pathetic effort by the Rams. I still think the Rams are going to be a good team next offseason or next year next two thousand nineteen season near I don't think they're this total fraud team. You know, that somehow got your I'm not saying I'm just saying that I think they're merely good instead of elite and. Think people's need to calm down on the Sean McVay hype. I really do because it's crazy NS. It's not fair to Doug Peterson. That's that's what gets me about it. We're kind of talking you were talking about earlier of the show here. John about how we fall into the trap of tearing someone down because we wanna make prop someone else up. But I feel like in the case and why it's different here with Doug Peterson something they is because John McVeigh's praise has specifically come at the expense of Doug, Sean McVay does something in. It's amazing. Doug Peterson does something even better or equal in. It doesn't even matter. There were literally people saying this season that Doug Peterson deserve zero credit for last year Super Bowl that was being said this sees that was being set at some points. It's crazy, and meanwhile, Sean McVeigh who was much less accomplished much more of a coward is like the best coach ever in literally the entire NFL based there will not the entire felt a tire group of NFL teams making new coaching hires. This. A year based their system on trying to find the next Sean Mcgann, it were hired coaches just because they knew McVay or literally had a write up like Arnold did in why they hired cliff Kingsbury because he was a friend of Sean McVay that is pathetic you sound X to Sean fail. If you sat next to Sean McVay on an airplane at one point in your life. You probably got a job interview, this this this fall this somebody? I mean, it's crazy. All right. Well, let's move on past because I could go on about this for a very long time. And at the end of the day if people wanna sleep on Doug Peterson and the eagles, that's fine. By me. I think Doug Peterson deserves a coach of the year ward at some point he'll he'll probably get one at some point beget one vote last year. Just it's just in one. I mean, it's just crazy. And so he deserves better, but they're gonna keep underestimating Doug Peterson. That's that's fine by me because I'd likely means a lot more eagles ws move down the line real quick. Where does this where does this Super Bowl rank as the worst Super Bowls? Of all time. Because I this was certainly one of the most I guess there's two different distinctions. There's boring and there's worst, you know, like, this was just I think the worst played Super Bowl I've ever seen. But I don't know if it was the most boring because it was close the whole game. You felt like at any time. It could pick up. I remember there is that member that game against the Bengals were Joe Montana. Led them back at the very end with kit. Three minutes left that game up to that point was very much like Super Bowl fifty three. Very sloppy the defenses dominated Joe Montana could get anything going boomer size and couldn't get anything going. But then Joe Montana. Drove him down on that last drive in through that touchdown pass to John Taylor with like half a minute left in the game. It was an exciting ending. And I thought okay. Maybe that's the kind of finish. We're looking at here. Maybe the Rams go down. And you see a furious last seven eight minutes where these teams figure it out. But it kept you watching the whole game. There's a bunch of Super Bowls in recent history where? It was a blow out from the beginning of the game. Where you basically just didn't have any reason to watch midway through the second quarter. So I just wanted to get your thoughts like where does this game? What do you? How do you see this game as it's etched in NFL history? It's just not memorable at all that game. Good game is I'm not going to remember this game that doesn't count. I mean, I said all along that we said last week the Super Bowl didn't matter. Maybe I was just being little bit humorous in there can't say for. Sure, right. But it's clear that humor sides game is not really gonna stick out. And that's part of the reason to I think eagles fans would be happy with the result. Does not like, you know, there was this epic victory in by the patriots kind of overshadowed shadowed last year. No, like, I think, you know, when you're thinking about Super Bowl performances, if it's possible to look at that as from an objective or neutral view your thinking back to the last year Super Bowl, which is really exciting in was super dramatic. I think before you think of this past one where was this news fest? It wasn't even and the other. Thing about like this whole hours this great defense. No. It was not stop it with that. It was sloppy. It was bad offense. It the Rams weren't stopping Tom Brady like he stunk at some points like you just through some really it's really awful passes sort of Jared Goff, by the way, a guy was literally wide open in the end zone. And yeah, he comes in. Then he fires into makes that play. But I mean, like if Jared Goff dislike is your average quarterback instead of doing whatever the hell he was doing a how many times a quarterback quarterback make that throw like ninety one hundred more like it's just that's not good defense to me. It was bad offense. The sloppy game. It is a game that we probably spent time talking about really. It's it's unmemorable. It doesn't matter. It never mattered. All matters is less your Super Bowl, the only Super Bowl that matter. And by the way, this is this is definitely something a thirsty comment to make. But Nick foles is still the last quarterback to throw a touchdown pass in a Super Bowl after what we saw to be fifty three. Are we're going to step away take another quick break. When we come back. We're gonna finish up the podcast talking taking a look at the Super Bowl odds for two thousand twenty for next year. And there's a team at the top, man. You couldn't pay me to put money on the team. They have up at the top. We'll get into all that coming up in just a second right here on radio. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be ballers podcast network for all of your Sixers needs layer analysis. Game breakdowns with a in had been and more subscribed liberty Bowers podcast feed on I tunes, Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball, mostly. And we're back on radio so g the odds for Super Bowl two thousand twenty around. Now, obviously each sportsbook has their own betting odds. But in a piece we have up at bleeding green nation dot com. We have some of the first odds that are out there. And the I know, you know, the answer to this question. I was gonna ask you guessed. But since you wrote the post I figured you know, the team at the top with the best is to win next year's Super Bowl. Are Andy Reed's Kansas City Chiefs at six two one, oh, I know followed by the Rams and the saints and the patriots all at eight to one before we get to wear the eagles. Are we have to address in Andy Reid coach team with the best odds to win the Super Bowl have people not been paying attention for the last two decades of Andy Reed's career. It's hard enough for him to get to the. Super bowl. Let alone make him the favourite to win it. I love Andy Reid. But there is no way I'm putting money and anyone who puts money on the Kansas City Chiefs to win the Super Bowl, especially when they have the odds that will give you the least payout right now. Nuts. Yeah. And I think I think this is probably a lot of Patrick Mahomes overreaction, and that's not to say, I think Patrick moments about he's not going gonna be really good again for a long time, especially in two thousand nineteen. But I mean, his numbers were just so good this past season that he's probably going to see some regression. Just kind of like we were saying about arsenal 'inciting into two thousand eighteen like you've just so good that even if he had a really good two thousand eighteen season that you still probably just not going to be as good as two thousand seventeen. So I think that's kind of something that's has to be considered there. And really I mean, obviously, it's going to sound very Homer of me to say then eagles are twenty two one John. I know look at that. So if you put down ten dollars, you could win two hundred dollars like is that really crazy thing to do. I don't think so I'm not gonna say advocating for anyone to do that. Run of the eagles. The teams in front of the eagles right now. How does the Packers the Vikings? The Steelers the bears, and then the chargers, and then as you mentioned the chiefs the Rams and the saints and the patriots obviously like man really the Cowboys ahead of the in come on. Give me a break. The Packers Rogers who knows the Vikings to get out of here. Come on. They're all at sixteen to one of Packers and Cowboys all at sixteen to one right now ahead of the eagles at twenty to one. I mean that's something make the playoffs last year. Come on like. I don't know. And they're they're dealing with turmoil. So to me that eagles bet is tempting I I get why they are not quite alway at the top like totally get this. This team is going to look different next year. There are so many things in flux this off season as we've talked about. But when you consider that the eagles have one of the best coaches in the NFL Doug Peterson which has he's proven that. And you consider that really one of the best better. I would say defensive coordinator in the NFL and Jim Schwartz and that they have still pretty good play in the trenches for the most part. I think you can still project that even though there's gonna be some changes there. And most importantly, a really really good quarterback who even again, if you have skeptical about arson you have concerns if you're just looking at upside in what he could be at his very best. You have to look at that. Twenty two one. And I just feel like you have to think, hey, I wouldn't be crazy. If I put ten dollars on this to win two hundred dollars. I think that's kind of a nice little bit there. They have the Cleveland Browns. Also at twenty one now Cleveland was improved this year. This is Baker Mayfield love, right? I mean that that's gotta be why they have them at twenty two one right now, I will tell you the team that I like at in the middle here more than more than most. And then I want to ask you for to give me one one longshot that you think worth putting some money on here. But the team it I don't think you'd consider it a long shot given the odds here, but those San Francisco forty Niners at fifty to one remember that's a team that came into the year as a potential playoff team in the only reason they weren't was because Garoppolo hurt himself in the preseason. They get Garoppolo healthy. And he he plays. He got hurt. And what was the week? Did he get was in the regular season? He got her a week one or two or three now that I remember I said that out loud. It's like, no, I think he played. Gamer to own anyway because he got off to a slow start. But if Garoppolo comes back, and he's as effective as he was at the end of the two thousand seventeen season the forty Niners are a playoff team. Probably. And that's not fifty to one odds that's putting ten dollars down to make five hundred, you know, not bad. I think that's a middle of the pack team. I could I could see that happening. And of all the all the longshot teams for me be l g I look at the Buffalo Bills at one hundred to one Buffalo Bills played. Hey, listen their quarterback Josh Allen plates. Pretty good football this year. I know a couple of bills fans I work with a couple of bills fans who are very excited about him and that bills team plates. Maybe. Thro? Well, throwing I guess that's true. But that's a team that was actually played pretty well. In a lot of games this year. I'm looking defenses of the Jews. Yeah. If I'm looking for a team to come out of nowhere. That's the one on picking out of that group. Okay. I'll play your game here. John, please. I'm I'm gonna go with the colts. I know they're twenty to one. So I guess that's kind of not exactly in a little bit higher than near the forty Niners there. But I mean, they Frank Reich, obviously, who's a really good coach as we know interlock. You can you can envision him as a Super Bowl winning type of quarterback. I think they like the most cap space in the league this off season. Like, they can that's crazy to think of by the way that they made it to where they did. And they have all these in. I think they're their GM. Chris Ballard has proven to be pretty good executive like they've made some really good personnel. Moves their turn with a quarterback making a ton of money to. It's not like they have a quarterback deal. They're exactly. So I I think they're going to be a popular pig. So that's not really me being against the trend. Thereby just think that if you wanna put down ten dollars on the eagles. And maybe another ten dollars on the colts. There you go. I think those are money essentially well-spent there, and if Donald a long shot, or at least one of the longer longshots, I mean Miami's three hundred to one. I'm not gonna do that though. But I I do like that. Who else did I have you? It's it's tough. I mean, all these seems at the bottom look terrible. I mean, that's why they're down there. But do I thought it had one? It's not the jets, man. I don't know. I thought I had one. Now, I feel lost it. I think trying to figure out what another team that could possibly jump back into the mix here. I mean, if the could the jets what of the Jaguars get Nicole. So there you go. Yeah. Maybe check words get Nick foles, and they jump up the list a little bit there. But yeah, it's a you know, what it's it's still way too early. We obviously have to see what these teams do on draft day. We have to see what these teams do in free agency. But that's why it's kind of interesting to look at this now, and I agree. I think eagles at twenty two one with the Cowboys Packers. Vikings all ahead of them in the NFC, and I can understand the bears being head of the eagles a little bit right now, they're kinda chic pick. But again, I don't know that I think the bears are a better Super Bowl contender than the eagles. Giving the fact that the eagles were maybe one dropped pass away from advancing to the NFC title game this year with a mash unit. Leads me to think that I still go back to what Colin cowherd was saying about the eagles. Hell how much they impressed him in that game against the saints that I took a lot out of that loss. You know? And that's why I'm feeling really good about Carson Wentz next year too. I think knowing the team is his I feel really good about the eagles chances next year. So twenty two one Beal Jianye say, that's smart money kids. Go ahead and throw ten dollars down at your corner. Goerner bookie there and get yourself two hundred dollars at the end of the season. All right G. Final thoughts as we wrap up episode. Thirty seven of BGN radio thoughts. Are Sixers look pretty good tonight. The first night with the big five altogether and their obvious lapses in terms of not having worked together. And look Joel Embiid had one of his worst games arguably his worst game of his entire career. And guess what do matter? He was still awesome. Any made some big plays down the stretch. So very excited about the Sixers here. Hopefully, the Phillies get Bryce Harper. Because it's in baseball free agency is just more China ever it like you do. So I can't even imagine what it's like for you guys. So hopefully, those things work out and kinda give us something to be excited about here in a little bit of a dead time for the eagles where there's really not much going on here, though, you know, of course, we'll this podcast up in many Carson Wentz suddenly new contract or something else. Crazy 'cause last Saturday that happened. I mean, you know, I go out on Saturday. I I'm thinking like, oh, you know, let's have a nice day away from the computer screen away from blogging for a little bit and stir enough. You know that Nicole snooze comes out, thankfully, my wonderful staff at began headed all covered. So big shot to those guys and Alexis and the whole team there. So that was cool. But yeah, it's kind of just going to be a little bit of a slow period. Here. We have the combine coming up at the end of the month and that significant because not only do you have the draft prospects working out. But you have all these executives and just the holy basically getting together in one place. And maybe they I'm sure how Rosen will be there. Trying to find a way to potentially trade McFaul as so maybe we'll hear some more on that front around that time. So for now kind of just a little bit of a lull, but things will pay back up. You know, we're gonna have free agency starting on March thirteenth, I believe and legal tampering. Of course starts a couple of days before that. So it's gonna be busy offseason as always is. 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LAbron's frustration, Bell no-show, Wentz struggles

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LAbron's frustration, Bell no-show, Wentz struggles

"Good morning. Welcome to first things. First working at the staff and everything I'm ready. It's hard. It's hard with the tutoring and making sure we're all set it's hard that you take that your wife this morning talking couple of camera guys and everything that the squad. On the show this morning generals. Chris Carter, Nick right L bells days with the Steelers are probably over Doug Peterson as one in the finger at himself spicy. But let's kick off this show with LeBron James, and what has been a rather strange and challenging start his Laker career. Yes. The Lakers are seven and six, but they started in three and they've certainly had the shares of ups and downs and the downs taken a toll on LeBron who had this to say after beating the kings on Saturday. I haven't changed anything outwardly. But you know, me, you know, how I am. I almost cracked last week. I had to sit back and remind myself you knew what you were getting yourself into this process has been good for me. I just have to continue being patient. Make you've watched every second of every single Laker game this season. What do you think of what LeBron had to say about the season? So far, I think people need to understand what I. Interpret, and I think what you should interpret crack to mean in that context. I don't think LeBron was saying I almost cracked as far as under the pressure. I almost cracked as far as doubted my decision. I think he means cracked is far as I almost went to what I know to do best. What I know how to do and the way I've always operated, right? Like, I I had I had a plan in place. We're going to execute. This Luke Walton offense we're gonna play this pace. I am not going to all of a sudden have an off the charts usage rate in the fourth quarter of games to take things home. I am going to let the young guys have the experiences. Learn and see what they can do. Because along the way. Now, we also have to realize LeBron just didn't just get here. You have to take a role map and see where he's been the last eight years. So his first move from Cleveland, the Miami, he gets criticized for that. He changes. Personality. He's a villain. Then he's like, I'm not that guy. Vinnie becomes the champion that he never was all the things people said, and then he goes back to Cleveland wins another one in the finals with no chance the last couple years to win like, and then decide I'm going to leave Cleveland again before we even get to Los Angeles. I think that how he gets here and along the way in those eight years of going to the finals Jenna, he's intervened. He has put his hand in. Maybe he shouldn't have or he's said something before he let things play out. So I think Nick Nixon sitting back like I want to win. The bronze going to do. He's done it be done before. And one of the reasons that I on social media more than on the show have been following the Cavs very closely at one and eleven and the worst team in basketball, as I know the people around the Bron have been doing something similar, and I think that leads to this as well. I'm by that. I mean, I think that is further confirmation for LeBron when. Things aren't going well with the Lakers early man, I can fix all of this. I that team won fifty games went to the finals. Now, you can say it wouldn't make the finals in the west fine. But they would have been one of the better teams. And that team is terrible. So all it takes for me to change. What I believe me being LeBron what I believe is the best long-term approach for the short term. And that's hard. It's hard to say I'm going to stick with the plan. It's particularly hard when you're two and five, and you have lost three games that you know, you could've one, you know, in the past you would've won. And so that's what I think he meant he meant man, I almost went away from what the plan is am, by the way that the almost crack this can happen again. And again, I don't I don't look at this commentary this interview as will now all is Saul because they damn near gave the game against Atlanta Sunday night. And so once for similar reasons, so this will be a struggle throughout the. A year. You guys both have mentioned LeBron James is clearly the smartest player in basketball. Right now, could you read into a little bit more? Some of his comments was perhaps a message to his team. I mean, he suddenly decided this was when he wanted to be honest and really let people into see what was going on. Do you think there was something to that that there's a little more than just what he said, I think people like LeBron in and I know this through spend a lot of time with Michael Jordan, traveling around the country going to games it's been some off-season time together plan some goal. It's tough being them. Just on the daily base. Forget about whatever their family life is trying to move his family and everything like who they are. And what they have to do. Everyday is a lot of pressure. Now, it's everything that they wanted in their life. It's everything they've invited into light. But it's still very very difficult. So with LeBron I understand and specially with him having Magic Johnson over the organism because he had that in Miami. And Pat Riley, really. Helped him. So how much he's going to intervene? How much is going to let the organization how much he's going to let things play out like these are complicated things. Like a lot of people say, well, those are good problems have LeBron not trying to intervene on a daily basis because he knows so much about basketball. And he knows how to get a team to a certain point how not to put his own hand in there. Every single day to me have to be one of the hardest things he's ever done that that sends a message to his teammates the guys who are like, hey, we appreciate that. We know you can come in and save us at any given I to let us figure out how to do. I think theoretically does. But ultimately, that's ultimately it's going to come down to how good are these guys. And that's the other point of frustration. I would imagine this is just speculation from me, man. They had some opportunities to add some prominent star players nobly quite lynyrd this summer, and they didn't want to do it because they did not want to get rid of Lonzo. But most notably. They didn't want to get rid of brand. Ingram and Brandon Ingram. Does not look any better in year three than he didn't year to Lonzo. We haven't yet seen the jump from year one to year two. I would think that ants the frustration. You mentioned Janna that he's LeBron lettuce in. Lebron has given a few quotes this year already that are more honest than your typical athlete quote. The you want wanna be around me when I'm not when I'm angry that's Bruce banner and the hulk when I lose lose my patients, but the he we've seen some of the fits and starts of LeBron's kind of satisfaction level with the team. But the other thing that is so different than when he went back to Cleveland. And when he went to Miami is those were veteran teams, those weren't cages. So like, even though they weren't Wade had a championship a Boston. The other heat players didn't accept her you d and no one on the Cavs had a championship the average age of that Cavs team when he went back was twenty eight and a half the average age of that heat team was thirty one. Most of the guys they brought in were veteran guys amnesty. Twenty-five youngest team. He's been on since his rookie year the young he hadn't been on a team where the average age was under twenty eight since his first start with Cleveland before he went to Miami. At all, it's one of the reasons in addition rim protection and backup center that he wanted Tyson Chandler that he called in a favor to James Jones GM and the sunset. Amen champ. One a few rings with me, they NBA record holder post Celtics of most consecutive finals as me. And then you cause you were my buddy, you're going to buy out Tyson Chandler and a few months we need to do that right now. And that's why tightening down so far it's worked out. But I also think and the celebration they're like, yes. That was a big win. And it would have been a terrible loss. But having someone in a similar life space as LeBron as I'm going to bring it to this show. Just for a moment when it was very important to see that. When they paired us up that the third person was not my age or younger. It was. And I'm not trying to date you at all. But it was very important that it was it was it was it was it was very important to see that the person have a bridge between the Gulf in our age in generations. And so because you can find some similarities you can find some commonality. So I think that's across all workplaces. Great. All right. We got a lot to one of the Lakers play next neck Lakers play as ten thirty start tomorrow night against the blazers third game of the year against blazers which will be watching coming up is time in Pittsburgh finally over coming to an end here. That's next on first things. First. Robin Hood is an investing app that lets you buy and sell stocks ETF S options and cryptos all commission free. They strive to make financial services work for everyone. 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So you never miss the right moment to invest Robin Hood is giving our listeners of three stock such as apple Ford or sprint to help. Bill jor portfolio. Sign up at first dot, Robin, Hood dot com. That's I dot Robin, Hood dot com. Tonight. Wisconsin faces Abeer at six thirty eastern tomorrow. Reigning champs. Villanova facing the Michigan wolverines and a rematch of last year's national championship game at six PM eastern. It's the gavitt tipoff games. Sponsored by Jeep only on f s one and the Fox Sports that's going to be a great matchup guys. Even happen preseason all American for Wisconsin. And if you're a basketball fan tonight is perfect night for us to have this game in the NBA. The only game that starts till nine is the Bob cat or the Hornets, pardon me and the Cavs don't nobody need to watch that game. So come over to pets. One tech out. Wisconsin's Abeer speak that entertains me. So my freesheet that there's Khalil Iverson overseas shoulder. Wisconsin's got a good team this year Xavier's lose a couple starters from last year should be a really good game. And then tomorrow a great game on f s one Michigan Nova excited for it. All right moving on. We'll get to let. Alan a second but first Monday night football ally. Manning watch this nice pass and nicer catch from sterling Shepard. And the giants win over the Niners last night. Nice catch Golo outright good throw by ally. Low body part down on this one concern when he went airborne me too. Because he only got the one foot you see that. Right. But she seek as to what I was looking. It's gotta be tight though. You got to be doing you. Counts. Right. No, see Brian that would he wouldn't have worked because Brian. Loons to the NBA Zach LeVine with the steel and destroys the win with that dunk that windmill how good is he playing this season man, better than I thought he had the ability all start. Oh, I know. Absolutely all star right now. I mean, he's averaging twenty seven game top five in the NBA and scoring he made a full recovery from that knee injury. And he's turned himself into not just a leaper same game. Here. Luca Danni vigil. Just holiday does. He hit it. Yep. Oh, luca. Very impressive. He's still my heart. Very very impressive. He could have gone to hold a first time on this pulls up from deep just giving you twenty six twenty six and four as a nineteen year old rookie this guy, and he'd been planning professional since he was thirteen. Yeah. Finally, Sixers Tyler Johnson watch zits has their Jones junior for the dunk. Oh, I mean, the heat got some dunkers. Now, they got bam. White sidled throw some down. I didn't know who stays in the highlights. Absolutely. This is stretch Armstrong right here. The heat went on a fifteen run in the second quarter this game that you thought was going to maybe give them the distance for the game. I mean, he goes from the dotted line at the free throw line, not the not the restricted area. Correct. The semicircle when the free throw. Yes, they got some leaders in my Elza got some bad contracts. Dope. Jerseys though, and that makes it all ok went onto levian bell. Now, a lot of conjecture that this will probably end with bell. Not plain snap a football this season. According to multiple reports bell is unlikely to report the Steelers by today's four pm deadline that would make him ineligible to play for the rest of the way. I let's break it down. See what do you make of how has handled this entire situation? This is a unusual situation. It's one of the most unusual situations I've ever seen in NFL in my thirty years of being associated with and you just can't put this in one category. So I'm gonna try the separate this into two things because it's a professional football player. You do realize that independent contractor? I'm in this for myself, and for my family, and at the end of the day, a lot of players we've said this when you leave the NFL you got two things going to take with you number one is money in the other memories. Those only things you're to be able to take with you. So try to get as much of both of those as possible. So I can't begrudge AMAN for trying to maximize his moment in the light. I tried to do the same thing just a different way. Now, he's been forced based on the way. The Pittsburgh Steelers have decided that they're only going to reward him a certain amount for his overall durability the way he's played all purpose yards. Like, they're only going to honor him. They're not gonna pay him like the other NFL contract. So when we got into this franchise thing the NFL owners collective bargaining agreement. It was not meant to be where we are right now. As far as this. It was mitt. So you could secure your top players, and they would get the average of the top five players and everybody wins associate win win. So so we wouldn't be like the other franchise where you couldn't protect one or two guys. We would always have that. And that's something that's helpful being one of the most populous Howard. And the reason it was put in the way it was. Was was it wasn't really four guys that were the top five of their position the reason he was okay with it being the average top five guys. It's a guy we wanna keep but we can agree to terms on. He's had an injury history. Like what might happen with cloudy in the Texans this off season? He showed flashes of greatness. But where the player yet like a long term deal, but I'm getting overpaid for year for lady on and guys in his situation section is they would have been signed to along. It's not only do I not have a long term deal. But I'm being underpaid. Because I'm not the average of the top five. I'm the best of the second best. Here's what I find most fascinating about where we're at. Now, if he doesn't show up today if he doesn't show up today, it is hard to argue. He played this wrong because he made a decision that I am going to choose conservation over immediate compensation. And I thought the worst decision he could make would have been playing half the year. So I'm giving up seven eight nine maybe ten million. Dollars and you can get hurt. There's no there's a greater probability of you. Getting her with missing half the season missing training camp and the OTA's vendor. Are if you had gone and played the Lynn near the whole time. So that part right there. I do agree with you just tell the audience how much money would he have point four million dollars is what he would have made with zero dollars guaranteed pass this season. And so once he decided to miss games as long as he knew. And I don't know if he knew or he just now finding out that the Steelers cannot essentially franchise tag him a third. I don't think they knew this. Because the way they communicate the him and his agent specially to the players, and what they had released from a media standpoint is if they didn't know what the all the options were so there's there's in the I wanna get in. The weeds far is one people understand it's unclear in the if you get for is tag the second time, and you never sign it if they franchise tag you again is that the third time. Time. Or is that still the second time the NFL released this past week? It's the third time and the third time is the quarterback number which would mean, it's twenty five million bucks zero percent chance any team is being on bell twenty five million dollars one year. So once that became clear, he's totally de incentivized to show up at all. He now knows he's going to free agency fully healthy. And he knows e he's not gonna have a year of twenty five touches per game. Which is what he's average most fell history in his crew with steel the reason why I don't agree with on the finances because say, for instance, dough sign with another team say just for practical matter, he gets forty five million. And so he gets thirty that guaranteed. If I put the fifteen million on top of it. I got sixty million. So we don't know what's going to happen long-term. But for me, I understand because the money part as the independent contract you have to try to maximize that with the franchise tag. It became very very hard for him. But the problem is you're playing a team sport. You're not an individ-. So his career what we say in the locker room is once you sign your contract everyone signed up to try to win the Super Bowl now. Everyone's trying to play as good as they can. But the game the reason why we're playing the game is so that we might win the Super Bowl l bell has been in that locker room, and he is signed up to say I'm trying to win a Super Bowl. And now he's got to tell his teammates. You know, something that's not the most important thing to me right now. The most important thing to me is for me to preserve my body. Right. So that I can hit free agency and tried to maximize on those guaranteed. So I can understand why his teammates in the past who were all signing up for this. And the now in the middle of the story. Now, L bell has changed. Its course without telling what about is in the future. How does that affect wherever he signs, I think most people think it will be the culture and the jets wherever it is. How does it affect how people view him moving forward? If he does suffer an injury. He is question. I'd just think that it's impossible to forget all this information. When every week we have a scouting report man whose doubtful whose questionable whose probable who's practicing who's pushing through like who's not worry when you have guaranteed contract. There's no need for you to be concerned you can play with injuries and everything because you've got long term commitment from the team L Bill. Will he always be thinking about himself? Will he always be trying to preserve his body to rest of the way because he will have a year of saying, you know, something the most important things my body in typically when we sign up and say, we're getting try to win this championship. We disregard our body for long-term to try to win right now. So if he sits out if he misses any other time, it would be easy for people to question. His overall commitment to that team based on what's happened in Pittsburgh other teams will be hesitant to sign him in any way. I know these injuries. No is lead. Belly's amazing. Do you think another team to be hesitant to bring him in after the? A year. They just I don't think that he attracted more teams. I think that there was going to be a certain number teams that had a great deal of interest in L Bill because his skill as a football player. The New York football jets would take him right now. They could use them. They handle them play this situation. It's business. It's business. The jets understand the franchise tag. They understand now teens understand the business. What do they get in the locker room? So now, I just believe they have to do a lot of Intel you gotta do a lot of background into knowing the person more. So than the situation. I don't believe he's more attractive because he sat out a year. He thinks he is his agent thinks he is. And that's yet to be seeing. And how this affects running backs that aren't lady on bell. We should mention I do not think this was his prerogative. I don't think this was on his list of priorities. But sometimes they're unintended consequences later on bell now with the NFL making it clear that if you get franchise tag, the second time the next time and you sit out the year the next time into third. Franchise tag and lady on bell. After David Johnson. Got money Todd Gurley got money. We think zeke's going to get money. We know he's going to get money. All of a sudden the running back, which is the one position that has been kind of the most screwed over by the rookie wage scale 'cause guys careers so much shorter by the franchise tag because we can squeeze one extra year out of you also how they've used a running back eighth platoon to running back. So you didn't need to spend all those resources on a top-flight running back -solutely, right? And the success of guys like cream aunt that weren't first round picks. This excessive guys that we've seen all of a sudden change it a little bit. This is this has been really good for running backs not name lady on bell. But to think that he was doing this for is a bunch of correct? Like, I said unintended consequence. I don't think he was out there. Trying to be a freedom. Oh, no. I jumped on the grenade. What the heck was that? That was an accident. That's probably accurate. I let's talk more about this coming up on the other side. Let's talk some eagles should their head coach Doug Peterson blamed himself for the eagles struggles next. I think's verse. Hiring used to be hard multiple job sites. Stacks of resumes, confusing review process, but today, hiring can be easy. And you only have to go to one place to get it on ZipRecruiter dot com slash FTF. Ziprecruiter sends your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards, but they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology. Ziprecruiter, stands thousands with their powerful matching technology. 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But this is why Sean McVay. Hey, young fellow. Hey, thirty two euro jeans. Let's come up with some stuff. Let's put some other people. Let me see what you got. Let me see the other personnel. Let me see what formations you're going to use. The biggest problem is they are predominantly a thirty one team three receivers and one running back. Now, let's see what do they do moving forward. This is up Sean McVeigh, the reason why they call him those things I think he'll earn that reputation and they'll come up with some creative. When Cooper Cup missed week eight his replacement Jaffer and I think at two touchdown catches. This is this is going to be real bad. For somebody either the Rams Cooper Cup. Because Cooper Cup has been a great story. His first year and a half in the NFL, if they all of a sudden, whomever, they put in their slot receiver for the Rams is a spot that always is open that Sean McVay schemes is like west Wilkerson, then element. Is it just a position where the play call like Cooper a player? I liked him as a college player. And so I think this is a loss for them. If it's not a loss for them. It's a huge loss for Cooper Cup. And what people in the NFL circles think of one thing. I know Cooper cups. Overall speed is underrated sometime we get in these stereotypes, all he's white. He's he's in the slot. He don't really have downfield speed. Oh, no, no, no, Adam Thelen can burn and cook can run it. He can get it. It's for Kupa Cup finally moving onto the chargers. They are seven and two behind some great play at Philip rivers this season. The chargers are quietly making Super Bowl run sh- waivers thrown for twenty one. Touchdowns four picks with a queer high one hundred fifteen passer rating where we're says he's playing the most consistent football of his career. See how impressive has Philip rivers been this year because we really we're not talking about in very much. That's been the story of his career jn since he's come into the league. He's always been overshadowed either by playing with the chargers are the quarterbacks that he came into the league with on to win Super Bowls and everything, but he's been since he's been he's been one of the best stores of the football unusual throwing motion very, very ugly. You can't even teach what he does. But it's like a jump shot. It can be ugly like a golf swing. It can be at work works. It can be affective, and he's one of the most effective passers getting the ball out of his hands in people. Just don't know the type of talent that they do have their man they got good wide receivers. They brought in Tonio gates back after getting injury to their tied in and Melvin Gordon. He's one of the special running backs in this league that we don't talk about. Coming out of the backfield catching the ball and running the ball between the tackles. And the thing that I think was very very surprising is Melvin Gordon all brick away speed. So yes, Philip rivers is taking advantage of that always had a great deal of respect for his game. And thought he was worthy of more credit than he ever got last night one night football. They did the is ally. Manning a hall of Famer debate. And here's what I know. Av lie gets in this guy. Gotta get the numbers are not even close like Philip rivers throughout his career is one of the most consistent quarterbacks in football. And this year is breaking all of his own standards like show Philip rivers average ear which is a Pro Bowl caliber year compared to what he's doing this year. Completion percentage up three points yards for pass up more than a full yard his average twenty eight touchdowns. Fourteen picks this year pace for thirty seven to seven and the passer rating jumped twenty points from his career average, twenty points, even in the inflated. Eighteen and fell passing sets Philip rivers having the type of year that if Pat homes wasn't in his own division. Philip rivers will be the guy being discussed out of the AFC as an MVP candidate. He's been awesome. And the chargers now they got two losses early to the Rams and the chiefs they probably some point have Joey Bosa coming back. This is a dangerous really good football team that if for the first time and a half decade, they get their kicking situation settled nobody's gonna wanna face them and allowed one of the thing that the only team in the chiefs in the AFC that controls their path the one-seat if the chargers went out there the one-seat like they they would win the tiebreaker with Kansas City if they went out so chartered a dangerous team Philip rivers the biggest in Philip rivers. He's been on some special offenses. I mean, he's played with some good offense of talent. Typically, we don't talk about as much but this year because they have so much balanced. Melvin Gordon coming there. He's facing the least amount of pressure that he space the any year in his career. So those. Numbers. Those twenty points are playing out because they're putting less pressure on him because they fear what he can do to defense onto the eagles. The team that cruise to Super Bowl win last season has foul that up with a bit of a head scratcher this season four and five on the air coming off a disappointing loss to the Cowboys. They know head to New Orleans to try and salvage a playoff run against arguably the best team in the league. We'll call that one challenge. Doug Peterson and dressed all of that to his team yesterday. They're disappointed. They're disappointed in the way, they play. They're disappointed in the outcome of the game. And they know that we talked about having no regrets no regrets during the week and no regrets on Sundays. And and and right now, we got to continue to work on that. Said that messaging to you. Three. Do you have to change your messaging point too? Well, I think. That I have to add after consider quite frankly, because I don't know any other way to do it. But to look into look internally in my giving enough as a head football coach Mike giving enough to the team in my give it up. You know, am I sacrificing enough in my game planning in my my study during the week? I gotta look at myself. And that's what I asked the players to do. They gotta look and see are they getting extra conditioning getting extra film study during the week or they getting rest at night that all those things are part of part of wins and losses, and so that's that's that's something. That'll never change. Doug Peterson questioning how much he's giving to his team. Not sure that's something that team wants to hear see how much the eagles struggles can be pinned on Doug Peterson. Doug, stop talking. They need to stop all the press conference because I don't know what the heck he's talking about. All right. Why don't why don't we do this? After second years a head coach right Philadelphia won the Super Bowl, right? You don't wanna do first general? I'm getting ready to write a book. I never been no head coach. But why are you right in the book? What do you know in two years juror who was out on you? This was a magic playoff run that they went on. And now in doing that. So so you write a book that's how you're going to start. You know, something guys. I got this thing figured out life football. I got it figured. I'm getting ready. Write a book. All right. You started off wrong. Oh, we have more fun than they have in New England. I would have stopped that messaging point because you don't know what they do in New England. You've never been a New England. And it wasn't the right type of focus to have an off season. So yes Doug Peterson. He's he's grasping strolls in. There is no way that I weekly try to face a press conference tried to explain the people stop talking stop trying to tell people what you think they might want to hear stop answering the Bill Belichick. The reason why press conference that. Way because it's not his responsibility to reveal everything to the media because it's not gonna help the team get better. So the more he stays up there, the more he answers questions the more. He's like, well, you know, something I don't know. I guess so I never thought about that. Maybe I should start looking at myself when you not ready for the press conference Doug Peterson regardless of what we say he's one Super Bowl, but he is still learning how to be a head coach in every week. I hear a sound bite that lets me know that that this is not a team that they're not going on leadership this. He don't have the heartbeat of this team right now, this is an average football team. That's very very talented. They are not playing up to their talent level. And the reason why their head coach should take responsibility for that. Because we got teams out there. Not as talented plan a lot better than eagles are playing. So Doug should look at his. So he shouldn't go into a press conference in not have answer to those questions or he should just remove all those things in chop. Stop trying to explain especially to local media what they're not supposed to understand it to me. Good leadership. If I have to distill it down into one sentence. I would define good leadership as consistency of message and a clear objective that now everything else is a bonus to you. Inspire me do a little frayed of you, maybe instead of inspire like you can put something on it. You can approach it from a different direction. But what I would want what I felt professionally the first time I got in my anytime in my career was once I got to this network was I knew exactly what the objective was. And I got a consistent message every day how to achieve that objective. How many different messages have? We just heard from Doug Peterson. And he's only talking to us through the media what fifteen to twenty minutes three times a week. How often you talking to them players? Maybe more importantly, how often is talking to his other coaches what? Message is he giving them? You can't you you can't achieve an objective. If you don't know what it is. And what your leader believes the path is the reason the NFL very often gets compared I think sometimes unfortunately to the military, but one similarity they have is a clear chain of command. Where what he says is what goes without a whole lot of questioning of it. And we're all going to go in that direction. I don't know that the eagles have that part figured out. What I do know is they were coming off a bye, which is the one time during the season, you can have the most impact as a head coach your by week. Andy Reid off a bye, historically, great. Bella check off a by historic. The best coaches are great off a bye. And they got embarrassed. I know it looks to me like they miss some of his lieutenants, Frank, right? John D Felipo. They look like they missed some of the other brains in that room up to this point in the season. I know that what if you're the players take me through this from the players perspective and you hear. Your head coach come in. You're probably savvy enough to know whether he knows and he's on point or whether he's just trying to figure out himself along with you. Is it hard to get up and plays hard to rally around that is it hard. When the message is not on point to get out there. Every Sunday dot about the coach during the guy in the NFL is motivated by his coach to play football, all every gun NFL all sixty-nine those guys they're living out their drain. So regardless of the coat helps them or not they got a job the do they have an assignment to do. So regardless if they get good direction that they get good coaching. They have a family, and they have a career that they have to take care of. So thinking guys won't be motivated to play because the coaches all pulling. Oh, no, no, no. Because each one of those guys, you know, what's gonna happen in Philadelphia. With that veteran lineup get rid of most of those guys than what? So so so so guys are looking out for themselves. Like, yes, they I don't think that the eagles in last year that was no inspiration from Doug Peterson. He didn't come up with the. Underdog thing like they just built on the momentum. They won thirteen games during the regular season. All right. They have a bye they had a good matchup in the divisional round. They had case keenum in the championship game. That crowd was unbelievable now in that game. They played a great football game in the Super Bowl won the best football games I've ever seen. But since then what did Doug Peterson learn from that? And all we can say is he's missing an offense coordinator, he's missing a quarterback coach because after two weeks of preparation, I was not pleased with offense of game plan against Dallas. And how they were gonna use golden Tate. All right. I would have come up with something more creative to get golden Tate involved in the game plan with two weeks to prepare. See I get what you're saying about the sixteen hundred guys are self motivated. But I've also heard Utah. I know how self-motivated you were. But I also know what Utah. How you talk about Danny green? So let me ask it this way aside from schematic advantage on Sunday. The great coaches, what do they do? The the players what do even the self-motivated guys. What edged do the great coaches what made any better than some of the other coaches, you had had some of the great coaches. They can look at aspects of your game. That is not a strong suit in tell you things about yourself to try to grow your game. So it's man, I didn't see myself. And most of these guys think they're very very talented and have a lot of confidence. But when a coach can take you out of your narrow mindedness and say, you know, something I believe there's a bigger role for you James white and New England you're never going to be featured back sun. But one day there's going to be some games where I'm going to throw you ten passes some games, you're going to score three tests. I'm gonna be some games where you're going to be a hero in the Super Bowl. But you're never going to be a featured guy in James has run with that role. Because Bella check is carved it out and helped him grow from that. But if you don't tell players what they're going to do and then follow up on it like their offense of line. They can't be physical guys are not having guys not having great year. So it's hard. For the coast to build a lie to guys didn't green was a great coach. I have not seen that in Doug Peterson. Yes, he's won a Super Bowl, but meant. He just happened to be on the right team at the right time, and they came up with the place. Now, he did call the Phillies special. I give them a lot of credit from that, but has grown from that. This is a lot of questions in his day to day decision. Making for spectators in my eyes got a bridge the gap between a gutsy coach that understands the numbers, which I think he is too the gap from there to a consistently advantageous head coach. I think there are the Philly special what they do on fourth downs. I think Philly is a smart gutsy team. But that doesn't make that's not all that coaching is the other part of it is the stuff it seems to me. He's learning on the fly. Let's take a break coming up talk some basketball. Have we seen the last of Carmelo Anthony in the NBA? That's next. I we're talking Anthony aura some in NBA circles. Call it melodrama looks like our mellow. Anthony's short time with the rockets has already come to a close that despite cici's emphatic rooting for the gentlemen, this season tried Saint forty to report. But he was in it for a guy he quits block my corner. Also, how you say according to reports mel's representatives are looking at potential destinations for the sixteen year. Former star mellows averaging queer low thirteen point four points this season are Nick as mellow being unfairly blamed for the rockets slow start. Listen as wise man once said, everybody needs a fall guy at times and mellow is the fall guy right now for the rockets, but he's been a big part of the problem. He's not the only problem mellow could leave today, and the rockets still got major issues they are still not the defense. They were last. Year and not even close to the offense. They were last year. But Mel has been really bad. There's there's no denying this is now the second straight year Mela was supposed to be the third star on a team that had an unquestioned top two and he couldn't fill that role. And listen, I'm Syracuse graduate. I have always been a Carmelo Anthony supporter. And I think he's become a historically underrated player with all that said, I don't know what Mello's role is in the NBA at this point. It's not just about not accepting a role. It's about a drastically deteriorated skill set and a game that has not aged. Well, and by the way lot of guys don't age into their sixteenth season. Well, we LeBron's kind of change the way we look at it. But yeah, this is it got real bad real quick for mellow in the last three years, and this is where we're at right now. So I don't think he's to blame for everything with Houston. But he's certainly not part of the solution. I'm not gonna put Melo as far as blaming what's going on in Hugh. Houston. But what's happened in his career? He can only look to himself to blame. Because if you look very in his career, he never looked at changing. He never looked at changing his game. And more importantly to thing hurting him. Now is he never looked at change in his body. And if you're going to be a professional athlete, and you're gonna try to maximize what you have. Yeah. He's scored two basketball at a great level. You might be whatever lists Nick has him on. I don't care. But did he maximize his talent hail? No. He should have been better. He could have been in better shape. He could have been a defensive player. He chose not to. So. Yes, he did have a great career. This is not even about oh, Houston heated blame for Houston mellows to blame for his deterioration because the Dwayne way when he's fading out. We'll say nothing about Dwayne wait. You know, the reason why because he did everything he hired Michael Jordan's owed attorney, his knees and everything they betrayed him. So he went out at least giving his self the best chance. To have a great career. I know it's not just the championships. It's what do you do? Chris paul. I can't fault. Chris Paul never wins the championship. You know, the reason why many one the toughest guys every year. He was prepared to try to put his team in the position. Did he have some unfortunate breaks at the unfortunate times? Yes. But did he put himself in the best position that he could be the most successful? Yes mellow. No. You got to take better carry care care of your body. If you want to build a maxima, but it also lets you know, what type of talent that he did have I agree with nearly all of that. But what I do think is wrong. What I said. I agree with nearly all of that. I think you're I think it's a little the only part if you're saying tell you where you're wrong. The only part that I think you're glossing over too much is yes, he was a great score Mela was a professional score. Which is what we've had in this league for as long as the NBA has existed for as long as the NBA has existed teams have been totally fine with having a guy on their team. What your job get us twenty five and night not much else. Like, there's no shame. In that guys have made the hall of fame on that like that has been a great career path for some great players. That's that. So I I don't wanna gloss over that part of it. But the other thing is, and I'm glad you mentioned Dwayne Wade guys. Bye guys deteriorating starting in year. Ten which is when it really happened melt mellows peak who's right about your ten that was the year that LeBron was one vote away from the unanimous MVP, and that one vote was for Carmelo Anthony since then he's gotten worse each year to where now he's nearly unplayable. Dwayne Wade same draft class Dwayne Wade actually peaked I think in year six held that peak for about three years and right around year. Ten started slowly deteriorating his body gave up on him. Dwight Howard, the Dr class after Colonel Anthony he peaked around year nine and then flow has deteriorated say Picton high school. But okay. Tearing up his NBA. Peak was around from your six to nine of his career. And it's gotten worse each and every year eight is what the bronze doing. We have to throw it out. It's an outlier. You're not supposed to be an excellent player in year sixteen mellow thought he could still be last year near fifteen a star. I remember guy here he had issues with anyone come off the bench Shrek that that has been mellow. I think as of last year his one of his big problems was not his physical skill and basketball skill but his mentality. Ration- Jenna one thing we have control over. We all control our attitude into me is disappointing. If Melo is good player. He's been as great a career. He's had that he can't even be a role player at the end of his career to me. That's disgusting. Why can't he he's in team sports? Why can't why can't he sacrifice? I can play a little defense. I can rebound. If he loves playing basketball that much of him and Chris Paul are that good friends. You wouldn't want to hang out with one. The last year you'll career like you can't make any type of contribution to me. That's disappointing as an app, so that's interesting. So I want let's stay on that for just a second. See you think at this point mellow has the has the ability to do things he's not doing. I don't think he has the no I think it's it's a bad character flaw for him not to build do some of these things if he got lobotomize if he was hypnotized they've it was I'm saying, you think his body would allow him right now to be a good defender to be a good role player because I just think it skills deteriorate when when you're young and you decide I ain't no defense. You think you'll play some beef is when you get home. Correct. So his overall mentality and not even approaching basketball the right way. He is never even tried to rebound. Trying to be a marginal defender. He has never tried two years ago is watching all these videos of Hootie mellow. He was going around losing weight. He wasn't trying to be a complete player always trying to get his shots up. That has been his consistent. Theme. How do I get my shots up? So he didn't evolve. As a person he was not aware of itself and was not aware of his career. So what happens to Mellano, man? I listen the Lakers early the Lakers. I know people say all the Brownlee LeBron had two chances with the Cavs to try to go at tell the to go make a play for mellow. Never. Did I I would be shocked if the Lakers look at him. I know there was a report Philly would look at him. Listen, I say this is a mellow fan. Good teams should not add him. I was dead wrong about mellow in the rockets this year Darrell I thought he could be a good bench piece. I thought he would be a good seventh guy on there in their rotation. No. And so what if you're any team that has real championship playoff aspirations? He is not going to be a benefit to you on the court. He's just not right now and above average MBA player. That's where he is not the only one Houston made tremendous mistakes because they thought getting rid of Trevor REEs in Luke miss charbonnet, moved eight at oh, this is going to be okay. Oh, those guys can be replaced. Yeah. How's it looking? Now how you defense looking. Now. How's your spot up shooters looking now, they really miss those two players, and there were people on this network who said they were going to dearly miss him in that team wouldn't even be able to protest the type of team that they had last season. And that to full circle that that those moves are a bigger part of Houston's issues than Melo struggles. That's why he can't be fully to blame. Or even the majority of the blame. But if I'm I mean, Washington Wizards should bring him inching Dwight, and John just a nice little no more with mellow. We're done what we're done. You're ending his career essentially, I've been very he quit. He quit on us. We quit terrible. But I've done talk player out from a bio good. The first thing first linebacker Bart. Scott johns. It's pouring outside the tide did bring in somebody somebody washed out into the Bank to that's what got me here. So late as well. ISP good. Oh, you know, we got you a win. Okay. Here. People. That's all that really matters. Bar big win for the Cowboys on Sunday beating the eagles and in the process keeping their playoff hopes alive in while on paper. It was just a divisional game for two mediocre teams. Don't tell Jerry Jones that after the win. He said quote in light of last week, this becomes one of the real for me memorable gains. So when you're feeling low insane, the grim reaper, and then come in and have your team perform the way these guys are I Promessi with the special feeling it is a lift I won't eat any wings on that airplane getting back to Dallas tonight because drama classes, what is it C? I'm just worried about that lift because Jerry didn't had a face lift or two. He was like this. And he got that live. He was like always. Give me the happy face. Are you as gung ho about the Cowboys play off to Jerry Jones's not? I won't well, they're they're up and down team there middle of the pack team. So said division you look at the risk a six and three losing three of their top line. And they're going to be vulnerable. You'll according Dale they think they still have a shot if they run the table, I think, you know, really a lot of warts the Philadelphia Eagles came out and showed themselves. You know, they don't have know outside Cornerbacks. Follow for the double move Ben exposed over the top. But also Zeke Elliott Wednesay Elliott. And if they want to be a successful team, you won't have opportunity with that type of defense that can be shutdown type of defense with pass Russia's in good enough guys on the outside. I love the linebackers of of the Cowboys. They they can be in a lot of games. They have to understand who they are what they identity is. They're running football team to play stout defence. They can't think that the offense has run through Dak that just has to make enough place to win the ballgame. I can understand why Jerry would have excitement because. If if they're going to be a winning football team to play the way they did on Sunday not the way they did on the previous Monday against the titans where they. Which is play the way they did on Sunday, which is Zeke play that way. Dan, the quarterback you have to you have to keep that quarterback. Keep a harness on him. Now, you can't think that all know we're going to try to win a different style. So in doing that. I liked the recipe. They allowed the offense of Lyman to get out and get up on those linebackers create holes for Z that not too much pressure on we're going to start the party with Amari Cooper. We don't have a tight end. But these other guys Colby's lead Hearns in them if they can make one or two catches with our Mari being are featured guy, and we're going to feature that defense. We're going to get them in long yard situations. Get after that quarterback and know that they have some special players in the linebacking core in these young linebacker, so yes, if they can keep that style of play I can understand why Jerry would be very very excited. But the thing is is it duplicative, Ken, they repeated, and that's why they've been so inconsistent because they want to quarterback to be thrower of the football. And when they try to get in those situations. That's when they lose their identity and not an effective, Jerry. Jerry's excited much like someone who's on death row. Gets a stay of execution. They going to be very excited. But that ain't no pardon that Amine, go free. They if they lost on Sunday their season was over. They are taught. They maybe you're firing the coach this week. They they didn't get any real reprieve. They they got a temporary reprieve until the next loss. And so if they really love we know what doubts schedule is they've got Thursday night football washing. I'm sorry. They've got Atlanta. And then Thursday Washington Thursday night football, New Orleans, you go three and and now son you're like, oh at the end of the year. Indie Tampa Bay in the giants. Like, we got a nice I hadn't even looked at this schedule. Washington New Orleans. I mean my goodness. They hadn't won Philadelphia season's over. And so now they have the ability to at least for another week keep hope alive to use things. Right. Absolutely hope and it make sure your team doesn't let go with a rope. It makes your guys are attentive at the meetings. I would imagine you can spin it to him. Hey, guys. Here's all we gotta do. We control our division. We do fine. You can keep spinning that. And I get why Jerry who's the ultimate salesman would wanna keep spinning that. But does it change my opinion? No you got thirty three quarterbacks league throw him for doing five yards. You ain't got one of them. You got the you have an offense of line at the highest paid and football that up until Sunday had been playing like a slightly above average offense of line. I know I I don't believe in the Cowboys yet. I don't believe the Cowboys got it turned around to me Sunday was about two things Zeke. And whatever the hell is wrong with Philly. Like, that's what I took them Sunday. Not that the Cowboys are all of a sudden on his words like haven't figured out yet. And we're saying if they play like this could be. Okay. It took him nine games to figure out the only one thing that's really been different. Besides that coach leaving. That's the only bring Amari Cooper. And all the sudden that was the difference. You have the same pieces that you had all all season will more downhill runs, right? Because I find a coach and put Colombo not having double teams getting up to the line getting to the second level getting away from that Denver type of blocking style. But also you forget when you bring a Marku brand like, well, maybe this is why Dak has been struggling you'll Dak still struggle in Mark Hooper's first game. They're going to double coverage thorn across his body and not keeping his fun two minutes. Now, you say listen is not is not the conceiving gore is Dak this is what he can do. Let's make sure that he can do what he does. Well, play action lane on Zego because ego Elliot should've one that rugged a year not Dak Prescott because he was the best rookie in a leader of that team. He's the engine that makes his team go whenever you gotta creep that eighth man into the box. It allows Dak to have easy reads, easy reason a standard I got one on one outside somebody's one on one. And all he has to do is look at the rotation of the safety. And he knows exactly where to go to with the ball to give his chances. If you don't run Zeke and people see Zeke as part of the game plan, then they're going to stay too high. Tell you Dak you gotta beat us with eleven plays on to fill. The he can't do that. He can't make those elite throws into tight windows embar Barton on both believe to like the season's not made after eight nine ten games because if you can even be four and six after ten games. I mean, you can get white-hot at the end go five and one barely get in the playoffs and still Bill to do some damage. We just don't think that the Cowboys can do it based on the schedule and based on we don't think that they can repeat that. And we believe there's going to be two or three games where they tried to put back as a thrower. And then those games are going to have trouble trouble. They can't fall behind. Hainan games because they're put the game index hand. Thank you for listening to the first things first podcast. Remember, leave us a review and tell us what you think subscribe to the podcast on apple podcasts and catch us on f s one Monday through Friday, six thirty AM Easter for Chris Carter, Nick, right, Geno, Wolfe, so long everybody.

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From the Bleachers #12: Burn the Ships!

Bleeding Green Nation

24:51 min | 10 months ago

From the Bleachers #12: Burn the Ships!

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred in sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze Rozier. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP. It just Bush I Welcome to from the bleachers. I'm your host as always shame as clancy coming to you from this wonderful victory Monday. I'm recording this on the fantastic but in green nation radio podcast network. Now GonNa say this once a probably more than once on this podcast want to say it right now how. `Bout Damn Eagles there is absolutely really positively nothing sweeter than washing. The Eagles beat the cowboys at home last week. In the podcast about how the eagles haven't had a big home win against the cowboys. And what feels like forever really. Maybe the last big emphatic home win against Dallas was the infamous two thousand eight forty four to six game. Now yesterday score wasn't quite forty four to six. But they were controlled the entire game. They lay the smackdown when they needed to Mile Sanders was absolutely electric and really showcase himself. As maybe dare I say the premier running back in the NFC east. I'm not ready to go that far yet but that dude is special. He is special with his hands. Whether it's out of the backfield as a receiver running the gut. It does not matter. That guy has juice now today. I'm recording this on Monday. December twenty third. It's festivus now now. If the eagles were to lose yesterday I would've went full on frank. Costanza airing of grievances mode with this challenging micro to the feats of strength Aaron Aaron Grievances. About wonderboy Howie Roseman and his terrible contracts in his terrible drafting. But I'll save that for another day. I'll save that for another year. Ziegler's one and with a win in the meadowlands Orlands a place. Eagles have had innumerable memorable games over the years. I showcased on last week. Special Edition Maryland New meadowlands anniversary podcasts. They take care of business in the meadowlands. They are going to the playoffs. They are going to host a home playoff game now. Just imagine just a few weeks ago telling you that the eagles will be hosting a home playoff game and January. It's within our grasp. It's possible micro. You're safer a week. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA lean into you. I'm not gonNA Freeman High Roseman. You picked up Greg word off the scrap heap. I don't know what took so long from the active roster. But he's here you're drafting Mile Sans Second round that hit. That was a big time John. Hit guys are safe. Happy festivus everyone. We're back may I do want to have a shoutout to special family from Springfield Illinois in the family and they're loyal listenership who are super duper. Ensue my juice above replacement step now after miles sanders performance performance yesterday It's with a heavy heart that I must admit that miles centers has leapfrogged our own Boston. Scott Bosco for NFL. Lead leader Andrews above replacement. Boston Scott still holding strong number two but your new jar leader in the entire NFL. Right now is Penn State's own Mile Sanders. What a game from a me at one? Hundred and fifty six yards from scrimmage. A touchdown probably should have had close to two hundred yards from scrimmage and two touchdowns if not for doing the Class Act. Brian Westbrook against Dallas. Move slide down letting the clock run out I would have ran up the score. Who Cares? Hit the over. I don't even over under was hit the over mess up the people's beds I don't care whoever has mile centers and fantasy football. They should have got that touch and they should those extra forty yards miles. I respect I respect Jason. Kelsey Tony to go down. It's the couch with its at home. NFC's is on the line. Rub it in their dumb faces. Run in the end zone throw that ball in the stands punt kick dumped. I don't care what the score I respected miles but respect the disrespect of scoring just a tad bit more. I'm sure everyone the teams happy that you did that. But from a fan a crazy fan deranged fan perspective I would have loved. It rubbed it in their dumb faces Jason Garrett a likely has coast coached his last game and Philadelphia as a member of Dallas Cowboys Organization. And I will say I will mystery some Garrett I will miss his dunk lapse. I will miss it stupid stupid face. I will miss his lack of Beckham. I will miss his cowardice. I will miss his general overall incompetence because whenever Jason Garretson when your team look across the sideline you see Jason note that means you have a pretty good chance to win a day I see Jason Garrett. That'd be pretty good day for men pretty good day for me by solid Jason Garrett. Stay on the opposite side sideline. He's probably gone. I don't know they're going to hire Jerry. Jones Make Stephen Jones his son the head coach. Do something crazy Jerry. Jerry think outside of the box for your Matt Rolls Don't look for the next young great offensive coordinator don't promote Callan more. Stick with the stick with yourself. Keep it in the family. Make your son head coach. That'll shock the football world. That'll show them. WHO's boss? Jerry take my advice. I know. You're listening Dallas Qatar. My Guy Dallas got her huge Dallas Oscar Fan Probably a rough week for him Dallas Week given that I think when he got drafted and one of his first press conference is back in two thousand eighteen. April may twenty eight seen a reporter. Joey said Hey. Douse some Fanta talking to be considered changing her name the Philadelphia and he was so caught off guard. I think he was so uncomfortable by. But just imagine you're going your whole life and you know my name's Dallas and that's what you're just saying. Hey I'm Dallas and then you get to a city where your first name is the most hated word and the entire tristate area good for him though nine career high nine catches a career high ninety one receiving yards Came a big especially when Zach Ertz had some time with some bruised ribs Zach bow came back. Finish the game for SPEC there for God called soft a couple a little time throughout his career so I respect you comeback. You took a huge huge hit tape. The ribs came back out there. Produced opened things up for Dallas opened things up for Greg Word Mile Centers Bosco OSCO. You're warriors act your super hero or Super Bowl champion. We appreciate you in Philadelphia. Thank you God. Has that touchdown. He's a menace in the red zone. Eager rendering thing that sucks about the Eagles from between the twentieth is what makes them great in the red zone all their God. They basically have like fifteen tight ends. You know inside out Jeffrey. Who's now departed pardon on? IRR Urge Scott. All those guys are big bodies. Big Bob Davis even now when you have those guys in the red zone. It's unstoppable and that's why the Eagles I think. Think now have the longest streak of scoring in the red zone not just touchdowns but scoring overall with you. Know something in the high twenties of straight possessions where they've scored in the red zone and has off Carson Wentz hats off to some creative play calling from Doug Peterson great game by Doug. Great Game I dug except for those two field goals. I'm always of Jelly knocks home. Those three hundred and fifty five yard or we're not having this conversation because the eagles are getting those points but always got. WHO's I'm team aggressive I want? WBZ grasses prices possible fourth and three fourth fourth and five between the forties. Go for. Doug you're often says Ronin Carson Wentz is doing everything in his world to bring the Eagles NFC championship he's gone. It doesn't matter WHO's out. There is working for him he could scramble around good moving outside speed option outside spring writes Brent left Carson. Had It all yesterday it had an all making plays. His legs had a couple of read options that he kept. I love that I love keeping it and he made a couple of guys missed picked up five six yard carry on just those plays they finish for what four carries twenty two twenty six yards or something like that does that every game it keeps it depends on us from these rolling out and the red zone. The fender linebacker accurate. There has to make a choice. Are they going to rushing on Wednesday. Because they're running. We're GONNA drop back in worried about mile. Senators Dow Scott Zakar. It's catching the ball in the flat. Versatility is naming the game option out his name of the Game Carson Wentz has it all yesterday nothing like a true true franchise quarterback true from choice quarterback baseball truly. It is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin clue join me every week. 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If you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP had a great day tailgating. Yesterday it was long over had a rough Christmas party on Saturday. Night bed fun. My Dad added bought this Cavalier's Pinata from my party city or some kind of not party city Some kind of party favor company on mind photo these firebaugh. Aw pocket shot shooters a bunch of candyman. I'd held up Eagles dog mask on and smack the crap out of a canny flew. There was all these kids tailgating around us in separate separate groups and they saw cannon you thought like thousands of dollars on the ground they ran. They were rolling on the ground and grabbing all these snicker bars twix milky ways Milky Way midnights. Whatever they're called nope they loved it and then their moms are coming over? Don't pick up the alcohol. Don't pick up the alcohol. Can I was obviously the one scrimmaging through all this nonsense trying to grab the fireball shooters theaters open up. Crushed it for the camera had a nice time Things hoagies shout. The things hoagies dropped off some phenomenal sandwiches had the county which is a a cold sandwich. Wanted cold sandwiches have ever had really in Philadelphia. Cold Roast beef asparagus Some vinegar olive oil and then sharp river vallone special seasonings fantastic stuff. What a game guys so good to finally be Dallas and a game like that at home of all places specially after last year where The -ficiating was terrible from the opening kickoff in Dallas to That no call against Dallas Goddard that Everyone is saying got his touchdown notified was garbage was terrible. What a lot of guys? He wouldn't expect to stopped up. Sidney Jones best defensive player of the year by an eagles player at least via cornerback. Sammy Jones played eighteen hours. Day made them count may them count. He's a guy who's been a pariah in the city's been a joke since its drafting twenty. Seventeen missed most of his rookie. Year has basically sucked for the last two and a half years is frequently only injured. He's an injury prone guy date matt to his time in college when you know he tours Achilles and thing just haven't really gone right from there then. The game huge huge pass breakup eagles players players ever have passed breakup. Maybe the guy drops it. Maybe it's an overthrow under three whatever. How often does and Eagles quarterback on a go route nine route of all things you have the past broken up unreal Sidney Jones in me tell each other fairy tales? Mr Jones Defensive Cornerback of the week offensive player of the week. Friends it back in the week. I don't know great performance by Sydney Limited time. We'll also WANNA chow. Greg Greg my God you know great words my Guy Severin the slot a guy. How wasn't he on the squad before this that doesn't make any sense that Nelson Aguilar? How could you and good conscience be suiting up for thirteen games over that guy? It doesn't make a lick of sense doesn't make any sense because good as number two receiver and NFL. No now can you maybe be a competent slot guy. Yeah and sometimes this arrive in saying that. Is Greg word. This amazing talent. No but he gives a you know what he gives a thousand percent effort and he tries. He's confident he can run routing hands. He's on a burner. He doesn't have these other worldly all these skills. He's not built like Toronto. Speed Randy Moss. But the guy tries. He's been through a lot. He led a thirteen to one team in as a quarterback in college he he was on the cover of sports illustrated for crying out loud and then he goes on breath as a quarterback has to get converted to a wide receiver. Get stuck on the practice squad for years gets a bunch of times reese resod cut resigned And look what he's at now toasted the city for the last two weeks underdog baby. He's an underdog and we love that here guy came out of nowhere. Where on the practice squad was a big young college? Didn't make it at the. NFL quarterback look at him now. Slot receive a team. That's GonNa win the NFC. They don't have a playoff game. Gregoire Jonas Start a playoff game for the eagles couldn't love it. More Mac Homs Nelson Aguilar Mac Collins. Gone Nuts Nagla. I hope I never see you in mid Nigerian gun. You'LL SEGACD you. Anna Twenty to the twenty fifth anniversary of the Super Bowl team at the link will do no little round applause. Read before the mother that I don't care I don't see back back this year. Your mess on the juice. Judas import as my family loves they love juice largest bad vibes. Man Symbol is that I don't know the success of went passing toward now and got her being more involved in the offense and his successor saying Scott and Sanders I don't know how much you can. Now dismiss those comments during the year where you had people in. The media had ex teammates whomever saying guys like alshon Jeffery Nelson Igor or didn't like playing for Carson Wentz and I dismiss out of bed with Jeffrey because even that dolphins game after all those comments Jeffries last healthy game I believe he. I had a great game of one sees when jefferies played this year Once every connection early in the season Minnesota Green Bay jefferies played well with once this season so oh I don't know about that but I I don't know if he's in the doghouse what is with winces is unhappy with Israel. That's what I hate about him in the sense that week. One to Sean Ball doubt everyone. Everyone did really well. Great Team Win. Great offensive performance in the second half against Washington. They Complain Amount Roller Game. We follow that with the next week a drop touchdown to win the game And then just became a shawl receiver for the remainder of the season You know body language least valuable player. Certainly there's snow room seem like early in the season. I thought this team was unlikable. I hated so many guys on the team. SCANDIC Aguilar Hollins these guys get him off. The team is Greg. Word is talent as Nelson Aguilar. Absolutely not would I rather have greg word out there on Sunday in the playoffs announced. Absolutely you Sign Alley this. I arm today. Say Hey pal thanks for two thousand seventeen everything else. It's a wash. How Fun next year? Maybe pick up a seventh round. Pick for you and free. The he ain't coming back he doesn't WANNA come back. I don't mean this team wants back in coming back. They're fun now. It's insane. How things can change quickly? And some of it's the way. Doug Peterson who I think again the fourth fourth-down miscues decide coach fantastic game in Saw Noah Becker Great Eagles Fan great follow on twitter yesterday. Talking about everything we've seen over the last asshole yours and the way Doug Peterson has faced adversity with injuries. The way he almost pulled off a miraculous one in New Orleans in the playoffs last year as huge dogs and really alshon different. Just trump's pass pass. Eagles Eagles are probably going to the Super Bowl and the super bowl run. Obviously the way he made. Nick foles look like Joe Montana. Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers. Whatever you WanNa say say and the creative play call had stalled there that is head especially you saw that touched on a god or a beautifully designed play beautiful? It was great. I just like swoon as soon I saw that happen in that fake left boom across the mental Qatar touchdown six. How can we do doubt Doug Peterson? How can you doubt the man? When will people stop? Uh saying stuff like that people wanted to fire people wanted to get people. Must Frank. Frank ain't making the playoffs this year. I'll tell you that I'm the guy who has wish Frank Reich was still here for an week Planning Doug saw the guy does guy whose always calling the place we love. Doug Doug might be more indispensable spendable to this eagles organization than even himself which is crazy to think about but doug is the guy his character stands above all else and all those other intangibles he has players like playing for. That's all you can ask. Sometimes he's great. His emotional intelligence is through the roof. I love the man. Give him the benefit of the doubt Out until proven otherwise. He's not making the playoffs. Three straight years. How many coaches have done that? Mr Riney hasn't happened since the two thousand eight two thousand nine two thousand ten campaign with a made the playoffs three times before that. They made the playoffs three straight times a from while five straight times from two thousand two thousand four and then I believe buddy wants three straight appearances as well as our old friend. Dick Dick for meal who infamously said of the cow doubts. How's come and take us for granted? Bull whip their you know what's it's great. It's great to have Doug I love dog. He's the man what else mortgages say he got Carson Plan. Thank yous and I love the way. The dog is kind of saying. Hey we don't have all these mouths to feed out there. We don't have an Alshon Jeffery. We don't have a Nelson guys who are demanding their touches or catches the receptions nations nets on against the early like a snide remark. Alshon you I think really Wellness Eagles career. We have guys who are hungry out there yet. Hungry dogs hungry dogs was run faster. Baby they run faster. He Got Greg Ward out there. He got big. Bob Davis Arthur whiteside. Who got the game on the opening drive yet to catch it for thirty seven? Thirty nine Arza. Belief improvement midnight catch in where they have a second round pick but has a pulse. That's more you can say. The first half of the season the first three quarters of the season as opposed donen playoffs. I'll take that as an improvement for all JAE. JAO WHATEVER YOU WANNA call our whiteside tithing his name whether it's going to blog post newsletter. Tweet I type out A.. They are T H. I think his name is actually spelled R.. Fagan's are Sega. Just a random aside but those guys are hungry. They're not demanding their touches whence isn't isn't NYC the running the offense through which sounds weird. A quarterback is always having the offense run through him. But they're not saying. Hey this we need to. We need to target arts when you gotTA oughta being targeted Alshon Nellie letting him moving him around the pocket using his legs putting on the run put him in position do what he does best. I was corresponds back. That has athleticism. Maneuvering in the pocket. Is this capability his throwing on the run. Doug is putting him in a position to do that now regardless of who is that Wa out the guy got guys off the street for playing their hearts out and when Carson Wentz playing like he is doesn't matter turn to that was awesome. What a gay amen? The link was electric. It was rocking. It's great to see the eagles as I said finally for the first time in over a decade have a huge emphatic statement. Win Against the hated. Dallas cowboys I hit that man but FM Athen ask them after all their bandwagon fans. F- skip Bayless F- Jerry Jones F Dak Amari Cooper demarcus. Ware Orlando Scans Rick Aikman Aikman all of them. You can kiss my you know what you can S my. You know what you ain't GonNa play offsets your baby. I don't carry you hire next year and then going to change next next year and that's the East hasn't had repeat division winners since the two thousand three and two thousand four Philadelphia Eagles. That's chain next year as the eagles went on Sunday in the Midlands it has. We've seen as our good friend. Mary's has said we've seen our shares. Miracles needles. Giants Games are Americal going from five to seven tonight and seven and capturing division and capturing the hearts of this city the only guys like Greg Board and Mile Sanders Can Mexico. They don't WanNa Division version again. Doug Peterson to make the playoffs. Four straight years when the vision three out of four years. I'm so excited right now. On rockin this track rocking mandate I'm getting cited I'm Frank Costanza. Moderate just festive atmosphere in my little apartment hartman bedroom slash recordings slash blog in studio slash Home Office. I'm back bay. The birds are back. The birds are back. The birds are Beth. Do WanNa talk real quick about Zach of the athletic. The great write about this in the athletic Thing came out either yesterday this Mondays. We are Sunday night when this morning. Talking about sacrifices pre game speech from Saturday night talking about a sixteenth century entry Spanish conquistador Who came with his men to Philadelphia's troops that Philadelphia to be weird if again if he came to you are the Gulf of Mexico Getting Ready to pillage. Unfortunately and he'll get his men told him to burn the ships. What does that ATM ships? Obviously he said burn the ships. There's no retreat no surrender. There is no way home there is no reminder the back of your head that you can say hey. We lost our home with our tablets when our legs retreat. No surrender no looking back. No point of no return. Supporting overturn mission is simple. Succeed or die burn the ships. That's what Zakar talked about. Burn the ships Carson wentz Brandon Brooks. Zack Tucker put it on social media. Hashtag burn the ships baby southern in my good friend. Big Mike for the game in retard another close up to burn the ships thing and I was just overwhelmed and motion was amazing. There's so much weight to it. A gravitas in reminds me of something that Titus andronicus the great indie Punk Band Rebecca Concept about burn the ships November treat notes runner baby tr Nineteen Eagles at the twenty nine thousand. Nine Eagles will win the super bowl home to it. I'm getting a burn. The ships out to baby. I'm getting a MEATLOAF best two out of three Tattoo. I don't care. Burn the ships baby from the bleachers as always shame clancy follow me on twitter at shameless owners who are anti sign up for my subscription Patriot newsletter. Just two dollars a month a newsletter delivered to your email inbox every weekday morning patriot dot com slash. Shame was underscored clancy. When you're faced with versity were that work home? 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The Kist & Solak Show #44: Eagles Embarrassed by Saints

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32:42 min | 2 years ago

The Kist & Solak Show #44: Eagles Embarrassed by Saints

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin. So it's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP nation and leading nation. You are not flying high on the kissed end so lack show. This is forty four. Brought to you by the fine folks at Espy nation and bleeding green nation. I'm your host Michael kissed following at Michael kissed NFL as always during the best dog on co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin so lacked band, man, I I know every day's a good day to be alive, but this one feels just a little less good. How you doing brother? It's a good day to be alive. It's just for other reasons that are not to the podcast relative to to a forty eight two seven loss by the eagles to the saints worst worst loss in history for defending Super Bowl champion while really. You're just pumping on all types of fun stats pre show at now you hit you trade traits. Trae Thomas tweeted that out shadowed try. It was Mike Rafah who said that seven points for the fewest. The eagles have ever scored underdog Peterson twenty four first half. Points were the most surrendered under Doug Peterson. It was the worst game the have played in a pass three years. Yeah. Total letdown total let down on the road. Not let down like didn't even expect them to play that. Well, just would have been like nice for the offense to string together to good plays men. They nobody like you. Don't get the sense that anybody on the team things that the team is good. You know what I mean? Like like, no one's. Nobody's like, you know, raw boom by nobody's got much fight to him, which can hardly blame him. The team is very very bad right now. Then you know, who's playing worse in the in the league right now, very very small teams play worse than us right now. Yeah. And it's and it's sad. Speaking of the offense. You know, we expected some sort of life from them or needed to see some sort of life before it got to the point will where nobody would give a darn what you did for the rest of the season because when it came to the games that mattered. They came very very short. They opened this game up with a three and out. There was the third down screen to Josh Adams, which I was not in love with and we'll get into play calling and everything like that. But I thought I should should've put it in winces hands and let him make a play downfield in that specific situation. I think there are people criticizing things that aren't necessarily the problem when it comes to the play calling in other situations. But again, we'll get into all that second drive. The they get a big return from Corey Clement. They go three and out. Then the third drive was the interception where the saints have on what they call drop kick coverage, and the eagles are running very common concept that we've talked about on this show to two man route combination of play action with a post route. And you get the over route coming from the other side, and what defenses can do to combat this is they can run. What's called the drop? Kick coverage where the safety will come up. And what happens is that corner. That was on the deep crosser can then kick back to a deep zone to also help. Out with that post route. And that's what you saw for. Marshon lattimore. So you saw him fade off of the off the cross or pass that off and then get back to the post. Route underthrown intercepted by Marshall. Lattimore really bad start for the offense bad start and bad game. For Carson Wentz. Just in that situation alone. Not confirming post nap that cornerback is a threat to drop back to that deep zone. Something that's been a common theme for him. Lately. Not confirming post nap in my opinion, anyway, but really slow start and for a team that really needed show some life in the first quarter. This was definitely not been. Yeah. It comes down to the fact like, you know, so he said are you Josh Adams screen call? And Carson Wentz. An interception down the field. Nelson Igor kind of not going to me that football. And you know, deep dropbacks in the pocket leading to sax on third and three right? We're gonna talk about that. By the way to go ahead. Right. Say, hey, here's the thing. Like, Mike Hourigan upset. During the game. So we were talking to each other. Because a everybody's very frustrated at heels are losing. And so everybody's just kind of wantonly critical. Just just have hazardously critical every play that has a poor result. Independent of how the results came to be right? Just poor poor analysis for process and it's frustrating when. Like beat reporters. Analysts who are relied upon to give good analysis kind of feed into the frenzy of obviously very upset. And and rightfully so fans that are upset with how the teams performing they feed into that negativity by just criticizing everything from from stem to stern criticizing play calls, despite the fact that they've liked play calls like that other circumstances had done. Well, criticizing wide receiver play in quarterback play. When it's. Oh, I it lacks like true depth of analysis. Whenever the moral of the story is this in my opinion. You can't lose to a team forty eight to seven unless literally everything is right. You can like you. You know, like, we, you know, I I'm sure you've got this going on right now. Mike, I people my mentions asking me I when we fired Peterson. I people ask me when we fired him shorts. People asking me if we cut Aguiar N Tate. So we can assign tyrel Williams. I people asking me on another go on a care member. Now where it's so weird because this team in this coaching staff is fairly close to the team in the coaching staff that wanna Super Bowl things have obviously not gotten right this season. Doesn't mean burn it all down, right? Wherever wherever you are listening to the pike s gentlemen, if I may impose upon you exercise think for a second about why it's so disappointing that the eagles are playing this poorly. The answer is because we've come to expect much. More from them. And why we come to expect much more for them because the data we have on the key players of this team includes a Super Bowl win includes a dominant twenty seventeen season. So the reason that they're such a strong instinct to say, you know, screw it like this is awful Yuna blow. It up is. Because we expected so much more. This is such a drastic is significant perilous drop off a huge delta between expectations and reality. It's how you get coaches who survive in thrive in mediocrity late Jason Garrett Jeff Fisher more Lewis lovey Smith. So they named who were longstanding coaches without great success. That's how they stick around for so long as because they meet expectation. So there isn't this fierce disappointment during the season because you expect from them mediocrity and you get mediocrity. And sometimes it's a little worse sometimes the little better. But you never thought it was going to be. Otherwise, we just want our first Super Bowl. Of course, we thought that meant everything had changed. Now, you have a team that is underperforming. Relative to talent levels underperforming relative to coaching ability. They're they're not getting lucky. They're not executing. They're not playing with fantastic effort than playing with great discipline. The play designs aren't as good. Carson Wentz is taking a step back. The office of lies with injuries the defensive secondaries dealing with injuries. There was a coaching talent drain. There's ninety five Jillian explanations for what's going on in each one of them is true certain degree. But the reason that I think that there's such a fervent, and and passionate pissed off reaction is because unlike we have ever previously experienced as eagles fans, we came to expect something better we thought that this coaching staff. This this quarterback this offense of line, this defense, whatever it was was another now that we didn't have to deal with massive disappointments from our football team. And as it turns out, of course, that's not the case. And it will never ever be the case. You know, ever like like like, you know for a long time like a team like New England has staved this off. And it seems like maybe finally might becoming for New England. You know, they're struggling a little bit. This year. Brady's got retire. And then they're come up. What is do will be done, you know? And so I think that we have to knowledge that number one. The problem is everything if this was a team that like if the eagles have hung tight with the saints on offense and the defense what has able to buy a stop in the fourth quarter, again, it'd be a little bit easier to say the problem was still the defense. And if you know the eagles defense was able to get some surprising stops against the saints generate some more pressure and the off it's only put up seven points. It'd be a little bit more easy to say. Like some have been saved at the promise. The offense reality is the vehicles got pants for sixty straight minutes is because the entire team is playing poorly right now. However, you know, if you were to look exclusively at the past four games of the season, you'd be positive that Frank Reich. Was the absolute offense of mastermind Philadelphia. Doug Peterson was a total of fake and a crutch in a a, you know, a poster not as I am just a fake. I can't remember the idiom I wanna use whatever if that's gonna four-game sample size. If you look at the twenty game sample size from the past two years. It's very clear that Doug Peterson is a fantastic. Offense of minden deserves a ton of credit you on to mean. So you can be narrowed on the four games if you want the wealth of data says that this is a team that could be very very good could be contending. They're not playing that way right now there's a ton of problems to fix Tom players need to get healthy. There's there's some serious introspection necessary from the front office, the coaching staff alike surprises it'll happen. But the problem is everything. And the reason it sucks much is because not, you know, eight calendar months ago. The problem was nothing. Right. And so it's been a drastic turnaround. We have definitely forgotten as a fan base how to deal with these types of situations in some of your actions that we're going to get to the reactions. We're gonna get. Three words where we have probably were what is all five hundred responses who's five hundred forty responses last time, I checked so. Yeah, that's that's that's wild and been dialing back to some of the criticisms that were laid on this game in lot of are totally valid is even pointed out the screen pass. I didn't like put in his hands. But like for instance, you get this third in three with four minutes in the second quarter. The eagles are down seventeen to seven in. Jeff mclean. Tweeted out quote players to execute coaches have to put players in the best area to succeed that's four down territory. The only thing that takes it out of the equation is sack. Didn't like the call. Here's the thing about that. Call you can't take a sack, right? So leave in a seven-man protection. We play action pre snap motion shows you that. It's man coverage Zakar first PJ Williams. I am taking that matchup and that protection a thousand times out of thousand if that's what I'd get. Right. So. Put hurts in wins in a position to succeed. Stephen was new sqi playing out of position at centre got beat by Sheldon rankings who is a monster. And we talked about him a bunch in the preview show. The other team makes the play sometimes I have zero interest. None in result based analysis designed to fit a narrative, even if the truth over consume of what you're saying is true using that example for me does not compute, and it doesn't add Vance the conversation at all. And I'd get it. We get pissed off when we went to put blame somewhere because it makes us feel better about the chaos that is, but we need to stop with calling everything that doesn't work bad in everything that works, for example, something like Josh Adams that is on touchdown run this perfectly blocked up something like that as something that shows that Josh Adams, for instance, is a feature back because I saw those takes too on the other side of the spectrum we need to be better at having those conversations and not just yelling at each other. That. Needs to be fired or this is because a, you know, a is because of be usually it's a much more nuanced conversation in football when it comes to that. So those the conversations that I like having with you, Ben because I know you're a rational person, and we like to go through logically and break them down not necessarily just say because you know, zero points were scored in the fourth quarter. It's all on the coaching. I mean, the execution was bad too. And it's been execution for a lot of the season. And you know, I don't I don't know where to place like like the big the umbrella of blame. But Ben these conversations that we're gonna have you know, as we progress through the season it as we look at the off season. But thing this this sucks now like you look at micro, and how can you justify what's going on with that offense compared to what it was last year? I mean Doug Peterson isn't going anywhere. So is Mike grow going to be the sacrificial lamb for what has happened so far this season? I mean, it's it's I think it's probably the likeliest move. The you can look at right now in terms of of a long-term move that there's a lot of good offensive minds in the. League and people who'd be excited to work with the Doug Peterson. With Carson Wentz. You're not gonna be bereft for options. Does it solve every problem? No. Who said kind of every problem is the problem here. It is important to know, you know, like a rising tide does lift all boats, though, in the sense that you kind of get the impression from Carson who had a really bad game that he's just trying to like power everything he's trying to get everything going like, you know, he fees feeling tons of pressure from the office of line. Obviously he's he's trying to make every single throw. And he's inaccurate. A lot of shortstop obviously took several deep shot two shots both of which turned in interceptions. As a matter of fact, which I don't hate you know, what I mean? Like, I can't you put a ball sixty plus yards down the field. You kinda need your wide receiver to help you out a little bit. Usually, you know, that's a must wide open. Your usually kind of making a jump ball contested catch situation McCarthy just generally struggled in the sense of escape ability and the and the ability to extend plays. It's not something we saw very much obviously had the picks and then Accu. Pursues all over the place and the own Carson's not inaccurate quarterback on Carson's not a quarterback who struggles to deal with pressure. Usually. I think it's simply the fact that he's feeling so much weight go down by two scores early to put this team on his back into into power of his offense. Carson a lot of pressure. I'm sure Doug is that very similar spot of were Doug is having the experience that it ain't as smooth sailing as it was last year in the scripts certainly aren't turning out the production as they were. There's no doubt of the quick touch ideas. The RPO ideas all quick short game stuff is not turning out the same production yards after the catch. He does not have the same running game on which he could kind of rely for short yardage situations. And so you know that Doug probably also under a lot of pressure in that regard in Doug feels the onus on himself to do at time. And that's why you get like, you know, first ten reverses to go to tape in an abusing eight yards. And that's why you get third in eleven screens that only end up getting ten yards. You kind. Get he tried to. You've Carson is trying to make everything happen. I think Doug who's kind of trying to get the the the burden off of Carson's back a little bit in that regards. I'm sure grow is dealing with a tunnel pressure though, he doesn't call plays. So it's mostly just weakened weak out stuff. He obviously has to step into huge shoes. Same thing goes for press Taylor ozzy's setting in John D full of both shoes. So you get the sense that if one domino were to fall become easier on any of the others for the offense. I mean. I have to deal with Subaru your day with health issues now in the offense of line in the sense that Jason Peters is clearly playing sixty five percent Kelsey goes out who guy was new skin there on the office of line struggle for the entirety of the game. I think we get in weaken. A a lot of people right now are touching back on the golden Tate trade, and yeah, like I understand the logic behind the Tate trade is talked about the time. Like, you know, this was we believe Tate will bring enough to our offense to help us become more competitive with zero competitive the division, obviously, two games in a tapes, not taken a significant amount of snaps garnered a significant number of touches he had today. I feel like six hundred bucks for the. Yeah. Yeah. So for the risk of the third round pick and the potential for basically, just the rental, none the Compaq. It's tricky right now definitely doesn't seem like Tate's providing the offensive returns clearly that we would have hoped we did as far as solving the problem. So that's there. There's another criticism that goes on the front office is a front office that seeing their twenty. Seventeen third round big received. Douglas, get smacked around the rest of that twenty seventeen class in the logic walls, Nate, Gary and shown Gibson L pump free are not offering anything substantial twenty sixteen a big v window Smallwood, Jalen mills all had most wa petunias over the past two years to release average themselves. The starters and have been unable to you know, you got at twenty eighteen class that you were a little wont for early picks of God. It's getting on the field that much Maddox goes down with a knee injury. He was kind of a crowning jewel class. Nobody else's participating this front office. That's been struggling as well to do. Good things in the draft. Like, I said problems everywhere on I'm sure everybody's everybody's job. Get a lot easier once kind of the dam breaks and somebody's really able to elevate their play. The question is, you know, at one point that can come how much is that can affect things. Philadelphia. Does not seem like a team who's gonna beat the giants. Next sunday. Like, I I wouldn't anticipate them winning that game. So you know, I it's not so much about saving the. Season as it is just being able to get the ship righted a little bit. Yeah. And flipping sized could this getting toasted up come out of the game? Sidney Jones would come out of the game. Who else came out of the game of data would come out of the game? Jordan Hicks would come out of the game. Jason Kelsey would come out of the game. Rick Levada would come out of the game. It just goes the hits just keep on common. So I I don't know unlock the biggest sports fan. I like I've said before I don't anticipate him being here after the season. So I feel you I feel anger with him. I do I mean, I don't know what to expect them to do. This patchwork secondary with been the reports. Because people have changed numbers in in whatnot. We've got new guys in like devante Bosnian stuff as the Bosnian. I'm like who's forty one? I there was one point snap. I couldn't recognize like half the second. This is just ugly. Like, you said, though, when it comes down to, you know, the Deppish that this team had are made worse with those injuries because. The drafts have not hit from what it seems like a has just beyond Carson Wentz. Those guys aren't making meaningful enough contributions to a mask some of those injuries in come in. Do that next man up thing is not happening for us that way, and obviously the secondary's a special case because they're getting just a rash of injuries in one place. But I mean who has been fantastic in the secondary for us other than Malcolm Jenkins writing run in cloud who went out early in the season. None of them really have don't think Sidney Jones played. Okay. There were couple of times where he he got ate up little bit. But I mean, I didn't the Joneses. It's literally it Cindy Jones's rookie season. Yeah. And he's playing do positions in terms of slot and outside and trying to couple Michael Thomas. I'd get it. Yeah. You can kind of call it still Soules like rookie. He had some starts last year. It's weird. The thing about the the more interesting thing with Soules not so much how much he started experience as it's that. They have been as resistant as possible to giving him reps above Jalen mills, which with how mills played is not as strong indicator. Yeah. So, you know, juries very much so Allan Sydney guys had a lot of good reps and has had his fair share bad jobs. A lot of rookie corners have Seoul is a little bit more so book that we're just wondering if that's ever gonna pan out yet knows corner, obviously is going to be a massive need for Philadelphia in terms of with round RBM a contract year. Now, he's I art is either going to bring him back is going to be on one year deal. How cheap is it going to be even if it is for a one year deal where you're still gonna have the next year's you'd better start drafting a potential star corner. You know, we didn't even get to it. Like, you know, this was discussed during the game so much other just awfulness going on. But to McGill on Hester still awful muscles does super bad. Mark Ingram goes for a hundred yards. Like like Ingram Ingram rips off like a. Thirty four yard like opening run. It was thirty eight yards. And it was tastes hills ceiling Malcolm Jenkins tastes in hills, lined up tight doubles as a wide receiver. Like like, I said, they would I thought that was adorable. Any did it a couple of times, they use tastes hill so much? They were trolling the hell out of us in using. So many of those tendency breakers this second I'll tell you right now. Sean Payton does not like Doug Peterson which makes sense Doug Peterson the end up on a couple times on the golf course in whatever. But the second Sean Payton came out with like, eight minutes left in the second through a pass with tastes inhale up seventeen to seven a drive on which the saints would eventually punt and Philadelphia would get that third three in New Orleans territory. So it could have been ten seventeen fourteen seventeen whatever still doing the second pay in the second pay through Pasa taste hill on first in ten in the second quarter. If just pay insane to Peterson like you guys have no chance of winning this game. We can turn this faucet on. Like and take my MVP candidate out and put my special teamer because hill literally special teamer and quarterback because you guys this no chance, right? And let me like that. Like the that fourth seven touched on Alvin Kamara such a good example because the game is already salted away. It's fourth and seven and paying goes. Well, let's just make sure Kamara still really good at catching balls down the field, still fine. Without you wanna make sure which I begrudge him nothing on that young. I mean, that's like we would we would absolutely for that. If it was thirty seven Philadelphia lead like we would one hundred percent be going for that. So we have to be okay with with, you know, the the hand the care and a stick I suppose when it comes around to the other way very clear from the beginning. This defense was gonna be able to do anything to stop the saints between -ticipant did especially as they crude further injury. There was going to be very little chance. The the only way Philadelphia was gonna hang in this game was the offense really turned in a blockbuster performance. Which? We didn't anticipate in the pre game shows, and we didn't see out there. So that was a that was a drubbing that that wasn't too hard to see coming, man. I really I really hated to see draft crush trae on Smith who I painted have a breakout game have a breakout game. It was the least happy of ever fell. Like, I am happy this happening. But it's the worst feeling in the world him and Keith Kirkwood, lighten it up good. Idea. Not camp believe we under looked. He didn't mention once in the previews for obvious reasons. Ben, screw this man. Let's get to three words, and let's get out of here. We all know what it is. It was a bad game. We didn't show up. It's been that. It's been the case for a lot of the season now. And yeah, we just got blown out by very very good. Very hot football team that we are nowhere in the same tier of the season end. I don't think me or you've been full ourselves into thinking that we would be in the same tier on this field today. So let's go to three words there are five hundred ninety five responses as I'm looking at it right now, are you are at be dog. Ten fire this staff with four likes. What are you people doing the whole staff yell van Braam hill at buns? Bramhall says Sixers are good which they are. I was driving back from Purdue Wisconsin the other day, and I get off again. Like, I dropped my rental. Unlike open my phone. Just to like, see what's going on. I have a Jillian notifications of messages on whatever. And it was right after Jimmy bother hit that game winner against the Hornets. Beautiful thing I love Jimmy bothering makes me happy showing Lamont at eleven. The goat says top ten pick question work. Look like we've said before I wrote my first read article for bleeding green nation dot com today in an -ticipant of this Oko check that out talking about some Clemson defensive linemen that we could be that we could be looking at because we don't know what the future holds for brand Graham, Chris long, Michael Bennett after two thousand twenty who else to Jernigan. So we may need to replace some of those pieces lament defensive line go check that out but top ten pick is very possible. I don't know how many more games team is able to put together the season as the injuries continue in continue and continue and continue to rack up. I like this one trae Alexandersson at t- underscore Ray. Eighteen says fire dog kidding? But then he also puts the thinking face emoji one like this. So I don't know why. So kidding, right? But also is he kidding? Because of the face so trays keeping us guessing man now, here's one that goes to a larger theme of what happened today's from. Jim bene- check at J Benchick. He says divisions wide open. The reason that the division is wide open that we have not talked about yet to apply that we have this Alex Smith thirty three years to the day that Joe theismann went down with a broken leg. Alex Smith has suffered a gruesome, lower leg. Injury foot. Turn the wrong way feel awful for him. Because when I was a kid I thought his name was pronounced like vise -ment like at Ryan with Heisman. That's actually why he did it. No. That's why that's why he says. That's why these men people say advisement, I say I'd say amazement because when I was a kid I read out his thought, it was nice don't they say at like five though, do they said these men actually way I shouldn't trust anything you pronounce. Okay. Lemme look this up. He's a risking quarterback. I'm not a fan of him to any degree, and I pronounce it these men because that's how it was originally pronounced changed thighs men because he was in the Heisman race in college. That's what I remember being. Anyway, I'm reading up on this right now key to continue talking about the thing. But Washington is in serious trouble. Their offense of line is completely beat up as we talked about last week Brennan Scherf going down the Volvo going down. They have serious issues there, then they lose Alex Smith. And then the Dallas Cowboys win today against the Atlanta Falcons. And with the momentum that they have going that could be some serious trouble for the Redskins. If they can't hang on a they weren't able to tie up the game with the Texans. They tried a sixty three yard field goal that hit the bottom crossbar in pinged out. So they still almost brought that game to overtime even after being down to scores. Believe it was when Alex Smith went down with the something broke into four legged we'll call it that some. Yeah. To be land and fibula while I broke, dude. I broke my tibia and kind of look like that. But not nearly as gruesome, and that's bad. News bears us. Yeah. That's going to be a fun recovery for him. I feel awful for man. That's terrible. You know to see that happen anybody that was super gruesome now that was that was just absolutely dreadful and Aikman made this point somewhere between nine and four hundred thirty times during the broadcast with that added context, it really is just shocking the loss that because eagles could a law beat that be the Cowboys loss to the saints. Obviously the extent which they loss to the saints does add to it. But they'd be five and five point with the Redskins are likely gonna drop in the division. Whilst starting quarterback to huge disappointment eagles for not winning Cowboys game. Yes. So you know, you've got four more division games to the Redskins. If you beat the giants and you beat the Cowboys. You're technically still in business. I don't. This this team played really really badly. And that's that's that's not good because that's bad. So it's tough to believe that they're going to this like that Cowboys game was a game. Like, this is a must winner, and they came out really flat. And this was a game. It was like man like we really need to pick this up in the chemo Superfly. So like, you know, what kind of expect from him here? I don't know. So it was it's pronounced these men, and that's his given names these men and then yeah. For the Heisman push. They started pronouncing it FIS men while he was trying to win the trophy this story. Screw him than any of the three words that you like before we before we get the heck out of here and start to transition to guy we got review this all twenty two. I just man draft work is looking really appealing right now. Somebody said watching the notebook and posted a gif of that movie. And I really liked the movie makes me cry time. I like movies. That's not true. I hate them cry time. But I enjoy them. I closed down this darn thing. Because I got tired of reading all the fire Peterson takes and everything. Like that. Let's see let me see if I can grab one more before we before we get the heck outta here. Don Conway at Don Conway, junior body bag game. It's the reverse body bag game for the Philadelphia. Eagles historic game will go down. No it won't. It's not a historic game. Nobody's going to remember this game at all until we played the saints next year or something to that effect. Saint frigging good, man. They are dangerous and that pass defense was in at all the Swiss cheese that we thought it was going to I'm just depressed rambling. Now. Ben, can we please end this. You wanna say goodbye to the gentlest by gentlest this last vestige? Thank you as always for listening to the kissing. So I show here on BGN radio. We do appreciate you sticking with us and reliving. What was a data? Forget for Philadelphia. Eagles fans everywhere. As always Ivan Benjamin so lack on Twitter ad Benjamin. Soul. That's the case Michael cast on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL. That's K. I S T. It's thanksgiving week. 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BGN Radio #84: The Kurt Cousins Litmus Test

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BGN Radio #84: The Kurt Cousins Litmus Test

"He's my co-host maximize talk next steps and solar recovered from sixers raptors game seven over a span of many many months were listened back to old episodes and make fun of how wrong we this is Jim from the step over the radio ballers podcast talking seventy sixers tune in his office so I think people were kind of a little too like down on the offense like after this game is like maybe there's almost like people were mad they won thirty one to six which is literally like you're I predicted like I predicted that exact score like how do you thirty one six yeah I said thirty eight thirteen and I said we were the you're listening to BGN ridden with Brandon Lee County and Jimmy Kamsky take away from that game first of all the pass rush wins showed up in a big way ten sacks I mean do we make a lot of that or leads trade targets so on and so forth let's jump right in let's get back to the eagles jets momentarily a few things same margin of victory right look at you yeah right so thank you I mean I didn't bring that up to say I know everything I mean that should be obvious you know by reading collusions or mostly going to be the jets are awful so it's hard to put much stock into that but will get to you know Carson Wentz in the eighty something against the illegitimate. NFL offense agree I think that's a fair assessment now what do we make of lackluster I'll use performance by the offense bleeding renascent and listening to be deion radio I brought it up just because like this kind of was my expectation of the game at least in terms of how they want I think offense do we just kind of chocolate up to the jets being me while I think they're the worst team in the NFL as presently configured that with Luke Falk with Luke faulk they're not definitely isn't as good as it was against the jets but maybe maybe the jets game tells us it was a little better than it was in the first four weeks like is maybe he kinda split the difference a little bit illegal dot com with you founder or with with me founder Fijian Radio Burnley Ouden Harry friend Jimmy I better I don't think it was amazing obviously I don't think there is no issues on the offense here's what kind of bothering me I guess what people seem like how people reacting if out like because the jets taxes big product of the jets just being abysmal offense being terrible I think where I come down on let me know if this sounds Jimmy is that like pass Rush Burnett over Rda and then you have Cox and and Brennan Grammy inside you know maybe you have something there in on your obvious pass downs so again there is that fair to say Yeah I don't think you completely dismiss it because I think Brandon Graham legitimately played really well and I think they have something I mean they know what he can do already rushing from the inside the worst team elite with darnold but with Luke flock the way that they showed up on Sunday that was the worst team in the NFL the pass rush I think is a big product I mean hello everybody what's going on Bgn radio to begin to you from question I mean previously we kinda thought of the quarterback position being the most likely to be addressed in you know completely dismiss it and I think it's encouraging what they did I think you look at that performance as like hated really good in preseason game I think that's kind of how I would look at that but I WANNA see trade scenario at the trade deadline but why receivers creeping up because you know alshon Jeffery has looked fine he's you know but he hasn't you know there's no way you're convincing me like put the same amount of effort into that jets game in terms of like what they displayed okay so moving along on the offense the wide receiver like the mad dog intro there right and it's gonNA eliminate steel that it was kind of something like that it was like you think the fraser uses like they're not going to cut through the jets defense like a hot knife through butter like it's not going to be like no resistance at all they they ranked thirteenth devi away there. He's averaging nine point nine yards receptions super-low Sean McManus said he's out until like week seven through week nine somewhere in there but then it's awesome there's definitely concerns with offense moving forward but I might take away from that game wasn't like especially after the packers game to that was the crazy thing it's GonNa Green Bay they have a great offensive performance and then it's like they kind of against the jetsons while the offenses is totally screwed now yet so I do a weekly chat on typically Wednesday and I got one but I thought Josh Sweat look pretty good so maybe they do have something there with N. Jason Hall Decent Look Good Too if those two guys may be at a L. D. in then looks like he's not coming back Sunday I mean I'd be shocked if he plays in this likings game and I'd be surprised if he plays in Dallas next week and I don't know if this is one of those like middle of the pack in terms of opponent yards per play and I think total points per game like they're not awful defense great defense but they're not a terrible defense oh what am I missing with this guy how could you not be super frustrated with Nelson Adler right now he I did see rankings I put up on twitter this week to me I did the question from someone they I mean I haven't seen this but I guess people were making excuses for the eagles offense I should say you know quote unquote making excuses for Eagles Guidance Harry from touchdown and they're fourteen nothin you kind of tell pretty quickly that the jets offense wasn't gonna be able to move the ball or score many points so I like when I was looking back at his rankings and the rest of the seasons and he's like easily towards the bottom every year like the one outlier year is to seventeen when he was appaling you're not gonNA show you crave stuff yeah like they did against the packers right I mean like they were they were scheming things up angry may put a really good game plan Make that noise and then I gotta ditch down the next time well it's all right I mean I think Francis who is a big listener of this pod great but right now he's like a disaster like you said even I think something that got underrated her understated maybe I should say from the jets game he fumbled suck on offense everyone also thought they that they don't they don't and I and this isn't like a revisionist history either like I was saying this before the game I think I said it has been hurt since week one warmed up week to at the play a couple of snaps and has been out since then and he's coming back nations where a guy is quote unquote data day but they know full well that he's more hurt than they're letting on like dern on help comes on our picks I think he would really appreciate that so a lot to get through today eagles jets takeaways I don't think we need to spend too much time on that because I think our rose last year yes on sproles was like he plays in week one and then he gets these out until like ten or something and then he has the setback yeah so the wide receiver picture to me in the moment like in the during the child you know what that kind of makes sense where you got the early lead so they scored quickly and then they get the the interception return by me legitimate big-league receiver in one who has not been that so far this year he has one reception for twenty yards in his last one hundred seventeen offensive snack doing our nine yards per reception in that you have Nelson Igor who's been objectively disaster this season and then you have to Sean Jackson who ended but there were saying that it was a it was vanilla game plan and maybe that's why they didn't put points on the board when I you know Nelson Adler ranked ninetieth out of ninety four receivers by any ranks sixty third out of seventy one receivers by football outsiders metrics now flex pros last year and I like whether this setback Nag lower I feel sometimes like I'm going crazy with like the Nelson Galore defenders that are out there 'cause like what am I missing Soooo and you know as talented he he has talent but it's just infuriating the mental mistakes that he makes whether it be uh-huh candidates sense not to show too much in the game go out they went into the game with Vanilla game plan but once they got a big enough lead where they felt comfortable and surely I was just sitting there on a platter for but why aren't you catching that if either anyone could catch that the ball is just sitting there sitting right there for you are those perfect metrics no they're not but the point being the eye test matches that yeah and we can go ahead and accept those writings well thank you he is not great at tracking the ball and by the way as even assuming carson wentz throws the ball perfectly if that's your argument like are we gonNA catch it 'cause well I can make sense of this because Jeffries cap number is going to be like sixteen million and he'll be pretty easy to cut in terms of you get a lot of me is pretty concerning you kind of said I also doesn't look one hundred percent at all like an and again that you don't even see him running down the field really do you of the season so far I think that's fair and this obviously to with like how much they need him you know what I mean is like Sean is out Sean has been hurt like they need that ball makes that play regardless of getting a little bit of contact from defensive back right that's that's my argument and that's the difference between a guy who is uh-huh you mentioned or just a lack of concentration catch the ball like he can obviously you know he can anyone can make the catch that he dropped in Atlanta against the sideline link what if that ball amounts and the jets coverage like that's a huge issue each fumble twice this season like it's just everything is a disaster and then the deep balls with him them in the next couple of years so he's GonNa be on the roster for the next few years and after they did that it's like okay well I don't get were. Jj Fits in now even if he were it is a large point Winston overthrowing the interfered with like you can't expect Carson Wentz to take a little bit off of the throat expecting so when they picked him I didn't get it because he's basically giving you the same thing as Alshon Jeffery and then you know I I quickly realized okay using I think it's crazy how again like you spent a second round pick on a wide receiver and like you can't get anything because he hasn't always the season so I think killing them he he makes the team worse I feel like which is the big issue to begin this war Carson wentz points much longer if if jj shows anything at all so it's like okay all right I can kinda get that but then they re upped Jeffrey they gave like before eight wandering oh like he's going to have to play through pain even becomes back the question is like how effective is he gonna be and how long does he stay on the field is is this going to be a deal where Ed is going to be interfered with as the ball is coming out of his hands so I'm GonNa say that pass I do wonder if the Sean Jackson tracks and he is like failing the steam in a huge way it doesn't help the JJ has been good either and that's that's bad and then Mac I mean he's he's been fine I guess what he is aw Johnny Johnny key cost you a game you did he cost them a game and when you look around the League you know the context of other receivers were having success we brought this up before but gene in terms of a cap if trade or Cottam or whatever so okay well they don't like the production that they're getting out of him for what they're paying him he's probably not going to be around Nelson to step up it's not like a situation where they're all good at receiver just happens that like Adler is not playing well in that mix but they're kind of outside of that no they need him most up to get an I'm fine with with what they did there by when you look at the receivers that they passed on to take see I don't think Maclaren's great example he's obviously been a lot better than than him I feel like people were like oh I overthrew him and I don't know if I fully agree with that I feel like Act Laura had a chance to make a play at least one of those passes any like they restructured his contract and they made it so that you know they gave him a signing bonus upfront they basically converted as his yeah and that's not like on some small number of catches like he's he's got like close to three hundred yards I believe he's making plays in Jj's do nothing nice kid have a bunch of guys that are that you know their main skill set winning fifty fifty balls that's that's a very frustrating infants to watch and we saw last year those are huge problem with the Oh so what can they do to fix it Jimmy what can they do is there anything they can do to fix it we again we're looking at cornerbacks previously that they could it just wasn't a now another here so what can they do I guess I'm fine with the Dillard pick I mean that's obviously premium position yes and they didn't pay much maybe trade for you know maybe the position that is I don't know that makes more sense the report deadline is receiver where would you rank that see like let's turn McLaren who's been hurt recently but still like when he's been healthy he's been great and he fits with he goes need in terms of a skillset like a guy who's fast burner they might have found but I mean guys clearly a much more talented player on the field and just in terms of profile to music free averaging over twenty two yards per catch a guy who can stretch the defense and help out Carson Wentz and those short to intermediate zones where Jacquards Jeffrey in Dallas Garden right on the line like all those God said Corner One defensive tackle to everything else a big drop off from there and again all this is predicated on on how long they couldn't get anything out of him when he was playing you know when Shawn Shawn her both her like he was playing a ton of snaps and he gave them nothing nothing nothing numbers that day because he had a real deep like I I think we Kinda we've talked about it before Jimmy where like this defense I feel like like I don't have expertise in your arms out and not move them and the ball land on them and stick so frustrating yeah I agree that he has been really bad this year and probably my biggest disappointment likes jj not is not that he's not that guy it's fine if you have a couple people on your team that's good right like there's nothing wrong with that but the Sean is actually GonNa be out if he's going to be back and he's going to be healthy and he can play all this bill this conversation has moved but if he's not then you gotta have they wanted Hollywood right or at least there was talk that they wanted Hollywood so like you thought like okay long-term speed receiver might be undermined another required to Sean and right yeah exactly they had three turnovers in that game they play well in the red zone which we know they can like they've been a good red zone defense under Jim Schwartz for years now that's fine enough but the offense needs to be and he's twenty six among receivers this year in terms of annual value and like you to pay nine point four million and those aren't color into signing bonuses Kinda distribute that over the course of his contract would that does is it it doesn't allow you to cut the player anymore because there is a big cap if he caught him or trade you go out the teams away man socks nights guys you must here is there so slow in plotting and and that's kind of where they're back at now it's so infuriating to watch in just in terms of today's the context of today's NFL where you're saying the chiefs are these teams sailing carry kill Nicole Hardman they did they're loaded with speed guys in their offense is awesome and big plays meanwhile the yes you have to do that like what he beat because so last year the eagles tried to get him and they were willing to give up a three as far as I understand guys can operate that they don't have that speed element there screw the offense is just like you said it's just a plotting slow offense I think it's easy it has to be wide receiver is they can make some big plays in if they can do that that's exactly what they did in the packers game like they got towards yeah but if they can make big plays and also by the Atlanta game to it yeah so already I would kind of pinpoint the dolphins who have already traded to guys the bengals are right behind them in terms of seemingly why I don't think they do aj green now he's been hurt anyway there has to be someone out there and more teams will fall off how about the breaking news report Whoa what's that two points in they can't have they don't have like a speed threat so to me that's easily number one so let's look at teams that are GonNa be sellers all Dan but the jets wanted to two in the eagles we're GonNa do that or should they have I'm curious who liked him if it was Joe Douglas Than Joe Douglas isn't going to give him up if it was halley like pulling teeth to to score points yards like it's just so infuriating into watch like it's and it's just it's like a bad brand of football I don't know why it's en it's weird because taken we bought like de que metcalf yes why wouldn't you take him I don't know I wonder what was wrong with him in terms of like his interviewing or is character please at Eagles fans dot dot dot I don't spread rumors dot dot especially to a team that my boy at canes it my six pack of teams that already are clearly going to be sellers and then after that the teams that have only one win excuse me only one win would good for us this is really something so it's Dan Silio former NFL player I suppose was the NFL to he played he played ten games nations of them to carry the team like ultimately offense I should need to care the defense the defense isn't GonNa be this lockdown unit like I what you want the defense ideally realistically it's maximized Carson Wentz that's all about like how good was Carson Winston Week one when he had Tucson Jackson he was great I mean obviously offered the slow start but then even still a he posted killer the waves of eagles twitter there was a guy who played for university Miami the so far but you're never gonNA take that guy second round they drafted that guy in the second round with the college numbers that he put up like what the hell really did you have the night guy I mean Gobi J. Space Dot dot dot so of you eagles fans don't ever disrespect Jerome Brown and my love is a check mark yeah this is Dan silly up so I I did at least look at least you know look further at his profile he had like five teams the eagles were looking into Odell Beckham Ginger no way this wrong must be legit than you know maybe they have that conversation again yeah I just feel like I guess and he doesn't anything this year I mean he hasn't been held by the offense that he's in eight tonight changes coming in Atlanta he posted that one at two thirty four am early in the football and my running mate to Rome Brown played for dot dot dot the eagles have called on the avail of Hassle WFL terrible journalism by the way you never give your sources but that's not even believable Chapman Mammal and he said the eagles were looking I lost the tweet here I can't find that you want me to read it to me yeah go ahead the Falcons and the steelers an eater those teams are going to trade they're not they're not gonNA give up franchise there they probably think they're good enough to compete next year directors that to me and I looked at it at you know I've identified as garbage but like I did look the okay yeah again he's working with Darnold Simeon and then Luke Falk he's got eleven catches for under thirty one yards yeah through four games until you get on the t so much of sports. TV nowadays is full of made up trauma it's a bunch of hot takes from people who don't believe what they're saying just beating the same topics into the ground but CBS sports so I gotta start trading away assets crazy I six teams that I mentioned I would throw the giants in there because you can you can get Golden Tate for a third round pick was all you at Eagles fans my source is Doug Peterson spelled with a teen the dot dot no him since the they're trying to trade for Eli Manning like he had a he had a series of tweets of like reports that you know this aw that's right he's a guy who could at least stretched the defense even if he's not making plays for you down the field like on your at least keeps defense honest and that's all you need I think teams would respect it excuse here to change all that it's a network that streams live twenty four seven in their coverage is just focused on the game they bring you the latest news highlights previews and it to be confident only on the nation podcast network Jason isn't doesn't have anyone that's GonNa help you and the president of the trade with you anyway cardinals jets Broncos they be my feel free to tell whoever what's going on and duggleby privy to that either like free for everybody you don't even need a log it just sports for real sports fans just open the CBS sports APP and watch anytime from anywhere on your phone for real sports fans best news of all it's free I don't mean free for a week or a month or if you have some special cable package it's totally completely and we're back I have a question for you Jimmy yes what do you make of Doug Peterson common speaking of Doug refilling with a picture of Rome Brown in him right is is a read to take that to mean that if you don't believe his report that you're Ah let's let's take a quick break okay and then we'll be back after this stack after this this episode is brought to you by CBS sports HP actions to all the onfield action fantasy sports experts will give you the info you need to make the right calls for your lineup. No fake debates no politics just sports in my house that even look like if if is he joking he Z. I know you can't be uh-huh by how that is a fair point so you who I guess you're looking at Laghouat devante Parker yet Miami that makes sense and then you have Robbie Anderson Acting Jer the memory of Jerome Brown you wanted to roam around to die you don't believe in his report I think that's what he's saying to us too is he is what he has is the is the right way to put it yes can we talk about how bad of a pick jj or a white was by the way this team to do like the truth but like I that's amazing to me is just really trying to like tell us that Doug Peterson like hey what Dan Kennedy Lovie ah obviously that's how we doing all that Doug wouldn't even like the J R I p zero so good early in the early hours of this morning us we talked briefly before we started the podcast Rosello about Doug Yeah the follow up to the on or at home on your apple TV Roku or fire TV it couldn't be easier download the CBS sports APP and Watch CBS SPORTS HQ Today in the NFL in nineteen eighty seven it doesn't show any stats here formula in opposition here's number ninety three so I guess Defensive Lineman you want to read this verbatim Robbie Enersen I WANNA numbers already can't possibly be I remember looking up until last week. He had only two receptions twenty yards look into this player the Patriots looking into Mike Gavin's the one that's great here is says spoke to at Atlanta Falcons President Richmond but I am a little conflicted on it though I think that he Jordan Jordan Howard gives you the best chance to win right now but there are things that mile centers the topic of Doug Peterson what do you make comments about Jordan Howard being the lead running back he should take that's the right direction to go as a runner I do think it's correct for the Eagles to go in that direction at the same time at some point they're going to need miles sanders to produce so I don't want it would agree that out for you fantasy football players I expect a lot more Howard carrying football anyway then sanders and he's going to get all the receptions down the field so that was another concern of his coming out of college to two of three concerns of his coming out of college have not if the whole is there and the offensive line is opening up holes. I think you just WanNa running back right now but it's GonNa take it and that's what Jordan Howard doing so surfaced in the NFL Pass protection catching the ball the backfield and then the third one has were the fumbling so the one area where I thought there wouldn't be in Howard literally played the exact same medicine apps and the exact amount of total touches view at in receptions in addition to the carries I think basically Doug is listening to what I had so you don't have him rotting on the sideline you WanNa get him in and continue to allow him to sort of get a feel for the NFL and allow him to improve so he can help you during the you know bond backfield on these China battle in trying to bounce things outside it's not hitting the whole the same way that Jordan Howard is and I think for the eagles purposes any issues like I thought he'd just step into the NFL and be fine right away it'd be running the football that's kind of been the the big drawback from him for him so far stand at the very least I think that's Kinda weird I don't think we're GONNA see a drastic change going forward I think this is going to be more of what we already saw like against the jetson maybe kind of even the packers too restaurant yeah I almost don't make a lot of that comment as much as was being native it like just because I look back to the jets game and miles sanders injury unlike Howard only got like four seven like that's clearly not be the case I think Howard should finish the game was probably the most carries if not a tie behind in those games you're not gonNA run the ball much anyway so in the virtual behind the fourth quarter that is you're not going to run the ball much so yeah I'm with you there work to anyway like it has been so there's your touchdowns another thing with the running back situation is that Darren sproles is hurt who could have seen this coming another weird moment in the Doug Presser today to why is that because he just wouldn't ask the punt return he wouldn't answer who plan returner is leaving euro yeah is a good pass Russian does Kinda show these exotic places from time to time actually feel more comfortable with him back there and I would a guy like Jordan Howard and also he has a number of you know it's like just answer the question unless he just doesn't know we come earlier this week I thought he kind of had mentioned he kind of been asked about Galore in Corey more than sanders obviously because a the ball security and then be again he's just going to give you GonNa get what what you give him so he's more of your closer than than centers you said you to me on the podcast last week and I said I think Howard should be leading this team in carries per game like you shouldn't be where it was when it was like the first couple of weeks of the season like in yes I don't I just I think people kinda see that in all join Howard's the lead back now they're going to give him the ball twenty times a game that's that's not going to happen and then fourth quarter like you want you want him running the ball returner and then it costs them immediately like in in week one I think I think that's an underrated concern this week because like Corey I know that was kind of a weird because I mean obviously more of a kick returner than a punt returner though wasn't it him though before beginning of Reno he but it was before like that Greg Lewis Scheme the punchy he returned to Sean back there either even just as a guy that you know catch the punt right and then Galore is not like a guy who regularly does that and yeah he he said I wouldn't trust either of those guys will tape just doesn't now I think the eagles need to bring back jr e Jamie play because he thought the ball last week hit Ryan Lewis's foot but like he was bad at it last year remember that when Corrie was returning into the coats Ne- like Muff in return experience he's like a Jitterbug kind of player sproles mold kind of player they also have Marcus Green who used to be on the Falcons think sixth round pick this with Kate with thrown at thrown Aguilar in in a situation where I'm losing you know maybe his talent takes over for a minute but any situation where I'm expecting him to do the easy thing I prefer to die before to put somebody else back there so they actually worked out a free agent this week undrafted rookie free agent penny heart who has and he's Yeah I would not trust Aguilar to do anything that requires you know a simple task he's fumble twice and he's dropped the ball too many times he hasn't really done that this year he did that week one a little bit but for the most part he hasn't relied on him it's mostly been Howard and and Sanders but at some point ear on the practice squad I almost wonder if they do something there they make a move there maybe not yet I don't think they would elevate Boston Scott like Scott did not look good as a punt returner any he doesn't have experience doing it he did it not on college any he's barely done it so I don't think that's an option not at all not at all so I think that's kind of an issue I think that's maybe be an issue at all but like it makes me a little bit nervous I guess the next two games are domes so in theory it should be easy to punch their okay good point carries anyone season which makes sense for the size that he is but even catching the football there are only a few seasons where he's in a player that were were it was dumb to bring Darren sproles back at all like is this the ultimate this is not what was going to happen with him sure all along anyway obviously the phillies have done well the season and they're playing in the playoffs right now and that's the justifying why the NFL scheduled These Games out Oh yes very straight games atman soda obviously this week at cowboys notice week in at the bills in week eight Brian Mitchell was a better returner and he didn't get in and sprawls a contributions to offense over his career are maybe a little bit overstated like he was he was he was very good for a few years but if you look at the longevity of his career that impressive he never actually never had more than one have any they don't have any answers after him yes especially good answers anyway especially with the Sean out and that's like a double whammy there with a dijon being out not just hurting they do put him in a situation where they are relying on him for some purpose and in this case being a punt returner and now he's out and and like we mentioned already offense but also not being around to be on special teams with their spoils not playing he did move into fifth place in all which is he is but he's also heard all the time and then it doesn't give you much anyway and Doug Peterson had a tendency to over rely on him at times in the regular offense but I feel like this texture but he's such a unique player that like he he definitely holds a special place in NFL history like there's there's probably not going to be another Darren sproles he's so unique consider him a legitimate like big time weapon in the offense so are there any more kinda like long term big picture things that you're you're taking away or thinking about what the team right now I'm guessing it's going to be at least like at least three I'm at the very least I would think something the argument for him when they signed him was that well he's better than smaller and yeah sure there's going to get hurt and he's GonNa be probably GONNA be out for a long time week to week as Doug said yeah I mean they haven't pullman irs owes presumably they think you can be back in sooner than eight weeks I guess but that's the six game stretch these three games on the road Vikings cowboys bills and then those three home games are all difficult games for varying reasons the lights in his is like you know like it was definitely game winning touchdown pass but I don't know can we can we also just touched on ev one if you don't know go right ahead just kind of the we're going into the Vikings game a little bit here but just kind of looking at the the stretch coming up you know the three road games in a row because remember that when the eagles are playing the packers can week they fumbled and they lost the gasoline like in Nashville that was a big deal because everyone was like oh that's not that big a deal they cut there different yet goes bears before yards bears at home by Patriots Home Seahawks at home yeah and then it gets and then after that so the they are and in the seahawks are a team that the eagles have never been able to solve and Russell Wilson is playing like MVP yes he's yes he's he's okay and then at home against the cowboys You finish it up on the road against the giants so you know for those last five games I wouldn't call them guineas necessarily I think the giants the bears have that I mean the bears have problems of their own big time offensively but there's no question defenses awesome yeah it's legit the Patriots after that six game stretch gets real easy so you get the dolphins get the giants get Washington and then you have what will probably be a huge game it bears right after the in week nine after the buffalo game and then they have a a week later by then come back and they play the seahawks on the Patriots in somewhere good it's a really good it's definitely a good defense that is something I believe going into the season and especially playing at home too I mean that's a tough place to play I don't think that's those fans are like account for your af it doesn't count for your your standings in terms of like NFC Games or obviously division so if especially if they win these next to like who cares honestly so what do you thinking Jimmy for this stretch like when you're looking at this stretch and again we'll get into the vikings matchup more specifically here at right after this but like what do you think they need to go like realistically if not very zero fear than eagles fans like equally as crazy somehow they're lovable but the eagles fans are scumbags well I mean you know they didn't throw snowballs at Santa this is good for all purpose yards and guys relations but I like the legacy of Darren sproles like I think I you are he said like a unique I don't I don't think he'll be off era barring some kind of catastrophic list of injuries that they have a long way which is another question and even then they solve a chance I mean obviously I think he got a win to these not only this stretch but the three games after that when they return home are also very pull out their scandals yet so conversely right has that was that was throwing snowballs at Santa not funny at all it it's a crime actually it's it's you know it's throwing snowballs at Santa number. Hey I'm Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college foot one and then it's disrespecting Jerome Brown number two fair point for sure so I I think when I this stretch here I mean they have to dust all podcast it says here in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean is it's all already spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too organs and I think they cause their schedule was awful that year like the the weak for by and they played it like a billion teams coming off their other their opponents had like a billion buys impose some kind of challenge for them but certainly the dolphins in Washington Games are I mean you got you got pretty much pencil and wins there right they lose the Buffalo I mean obviously you WanNa win like it's not the end of the world I there's an interesting game I mean there are four and one and the one loss they have they hung in there we're now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP game right point underdogs point underdogs on the road in US Bank stadium where the Eagles won the super bowl wait what yeah breaking news which makes a difference we'll take a break here and we'll get back into some eagles versus Vikings matchups we will be you give it to Jimmy back after this it's like a straight like they have to that is a must win they have to be the cowboys they have to the the buffalo game out it's an AFC team like who cares right like that doesn't national pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the early and unfashionable pants that coach back here BGN radio episode eighty four. The only the Vikings this week beagles three into the vikings three to kind of the game dancer the answer your question that the three road games have coming you gotTa Win to those do you make of the bills by the way I think there whether defensive legit like it's really the defense kept him that game all day and you in the than even losing Josh Allen may still have the chance to while they didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't they think I feel like they can go to and one I don't think that's out of the question thank three now it would be pretty tough that's just you see the split stew on those those third games right on that on the road the one at San Francisco's supposed to be pretty Nice Levi's are so you to the matchups com as you always do on voice Jimmy so give me let's start with the eagles defense doesn't litmus test kirk or Kurt I said her kirk her Kurt Latter Kirk that's a great that's a great stadium by the way that was really cool being there so we think you'll me when I Witnessed the hammered Brian Ah Janssen theory but once step on the field at the end of that year so it's it's it's a tough straps for sure I think why I say is a litmus test I do not Kurt cousins is four in twenty four in twenty eight games in his career against in Atlanta mercedes-benz that was really nice to and then the US Bank stadium was Those those might be the three best I think through that up now I mean it's a though it's it's a different year ns he's probably been worse this year right ease been worse this year than he has last year he usually plays pretty against the eagles he does but he was he was big time for the eagles last year when the eagles really needed him in week seventeen teams that finished the season with at least nine minutes okay he doesn't be good teams are go if Eagles beat her than there good teams and while I will actually say something something I want to say because I feel like this game I feel like there's a certain thing to this game that in is probably GonNa be it is GonNa be I will say trip like teams that never win those games like when it's your third game on the road in a row and that recently when did they what you're the had hours it took sixteen his name Kurt Kurt K. U. R. Kirk cousins the the Kurt Cousins Litmus test and do you know why I say that Jimmy Dino before playing them like it was like terrible then there's like another team came off Thursday night football to play the yeah that was like a total Saito and have three straight Rogaine road game in the sense of like there was material things yeah yeah yeah so that's that's the bus ride as opposed to pack it up plane which is Sager was it twenty seventeen I don't know twenty fifth may was the last Oh yeah it was it was it was and they won so they were in Seattle and then they just stayed out there the title of this Bgn Radio episode I feel like the Eagles defence versus the vikings offense is the kirk cousins Kirk coupons everyone Akam the carpet but if they don't they're a bad team I guess the eagles are one of those winds that he has though because they finish last year the record that is true so there goes your witness they're just totally hearing about this week like in some ways this is a big game two important game for two NFC teams but at the same time like doesn't mean everything and Tell Me Week six alice how good he is did you watch that game yes that guy can play the game at cowboys lost yeah what's up yeah I mean that guy can play and very very good I mean he's really and then the other guy that they drafted this year in the third round Alexander Madison is more of like a he's more like a downhill type runner he's against the against anyone really with the third quarterback so the key on the run but you know they I think Aaron Jones showed very good did you watch any other games I didn't see him specifically but his numbers are great yeah he's just get it and go averaging over run with him in the House against the Eagles and rightfully so but he just didn't have any room to run but then you got that guy is really good yet he is doubting Cook is really Good Avenue two point two point zero yards per carry the jump on everyone a face like some decent backs like lady on Bell's good back I mean obviously that offense wasn't GonNa do anything the the difference in the number of carries me cook as dominating them I think Madison only has like thirty four carries so far through five game so he's that stadium third of the ones that bounty so far it was really nice though the guy would go cowboys one and then the one that I was just at so I just wonder I wonder what you get I wonder what you see from Kirk cousins this weekend also are the vikings will be dumb not even have him throw against the secondary where the rams next week and then the third giant stretches yes was that the giants that's why I didn't remember anyone listening it wasn't really but they're passing game is the answer against his eagles team because the eagles are awesome stopping the run I mean what they've done against number one running back so far this year pretty incredible he's got some weight behind him and he just he's a he's a nice compliment to cook cooks slippery type burner whereas they give to Madison he just goes week against the needles secondary that a banged up be facing two receivers found eggs and Adam Cleland who are both very good and see those receivers played really well against the eagles last year feeling eight the eagles up last year F- he goes most you want to run the ball but they have tavis Mary so like having added cooking at Madison of two other guys that have high yards per carry but today in the slot play great in the slot against the jets which is typically determined I mean he was good when he blitzed still like the against mills if I recall yes and I think he'd beat Darby for a touchdown yes but he was killing them last year and that was probably cousins best game of the year last uh-huh we we we have got a little too little off the rails on our great stadium I would rank that on and then Craig James would be your top backup really I guess any spot they are kind of so that kind of shows you where they're at still owner wise Yeah I mean I in Wednesday's practice Douglas it's been playing pretty well on the other side I think he's been helped out by he's been the best corner and there's been weaker corner the teams to pick on but even still at least he's not the corner to pick on and then Orlando's Kendrick didn't practice due to illness hope I'm assuming it'll be fine offensive line yes is not so great I was looking at some of the numbers today both from pro football focus and football outsiders and basically yeah bears I mean he just rolled over and died in that game as he always does that's my point with this record thing like he he c comes up small in the biggest moments consistently so that's also we haven't really seen him in coverage yet you don't Jamison crowder let him do anything okay but again I know so yeah so we'll see on that one it seemingly Sidney Jones back at corner this week so obviously the secondary is fixed now and they're attacking by the way Oh yeah so yeah because he was a full partic- he is GonNa be stupid and try to like pound the ball into this eagles run defense right it's funny we're making fun of him but at the same time like he's their answer not he not him that's I agree if the Vikings are not passing all day than their dumb and I think there's a chance they would be dumb I think there's a chance they are gonna run too much Because that's Zimmer premier like strength on strength matchups that's the vikings rushing attack against the eagles rushing defense. We already covered that right the vikings edge I don't really see it against the eagles because he didn't get any room to run and wouldn't release and that guy that guy's really good people were rightfully killing leflore for like continuing washers in Everson Griffen and Dino Hunter Against Lane Johnson Adjacent Peters again that's strength on strength the two battened Fewer than ten carries a game but I mean there are running aim is impressive in in terms of the running backs are very good in the past Fletcher Cox of old he should have a big game against these stiffs on the inside so they use the first round pick I think eighteenth overall ninety did was I went to by the way if you've gone game pass and used their search feature no it's awesome so like you can just look you can just type in Viking things sacks weeks one through five and it'll pull up all the sacks that they had and gave up so I just watched all the sacks that they gave up so far this year don't really have any carry so I don't know Jim Schwartz mentioned those two guys to like a mirror Abdulah ad I don't think you remember the guy's name I can't either but he cited their yard wants to do right Atari fired flip he was like he's not running enough and Zimmer seems pretty antiquated in would kind of be won't to do that and another thing I think that kind of might go against the Vikings passing a lot in you highlighted this goes well in your matchup column even asked him twits about it to me is a two match ups where that heavily favor the Vikings in one Serbs Hanson we already covered that the receivers against corners and then there's the eagles in theory interior defensive line against their interior offensive line and Fletcher Cox is anything at all I think that maybe plays kneels hands so the way that I let me let me just take a step back here the way that this matchup is there are two does better than it right now first of all I'm shocked at how well centers is playing in pass protection against this vikings defense specifically coming up that had for carry numbers but I think they have like nine carries combined so I don't know why you mentioned them but the running game is impressive but they should just totally get away from that this like some point he's not good right now it seems like he's kind of like decent Kelly Kelsey like in theory the underside center athletic but clearly not actually to them that that that makes absolute sense has them six in run blocking twenty fourth pass blocking so not the desk passed protecting unit there so when cheer they're they're crazy if they if they just try to hammer the run yeah it would be a gift to the eagles if they if they do that and the heels will have potentially and the interior of their offense of lines things is the takeaway that I that I got from watching the sacks that they gave up and any any kind of metric you use to look at the Vikings offensive line there like PF has them fifteenth blocking and thirty first in pass blocking football outsiders like five point nine per carrier something he's two hundred twenty two twenty five pounds so he's nice compliment look that big just watching him but right now pat L. Flin another guy they use the relatively high draft pick on recently have to look that up where he actually went round pick he sticks in nineteen th on Garrett Bradberry yes stinks which is right under center he's not good exc there right guard I think his name is Josh Klein wasn't that the guy who was almost needles player one time the Patriots traded like Eric Rowe Jocelyne but then like you got waived in an injury area he actually wasn't included in the trade anyway he only on the espionage in podcast network because you really do run the risk of of having some big play by those two guys they have eighty five sacks combined since hunter entered the league the things but against the you know those two edge rushers you don't WanNa be just dropping back every on every down and hope what he can do a pass protection so flipping around eagles offense versus Vikings defense how did the Eagles attack this defense yeah I don't know in Twenty fifteen so you look at like four seat four full seasons plus four or five games this year and they times and he had eighteen catches on those nineteen targets in your analysis would you say that's good how many add that up here he's horrible in pass protection yeah horrible and I posted one Gif of him getting lit up by Nick Wykowski I didn't know why guy who's killed them in the past Zakar so the last two games against them he's he was targeted if I recall nineteen is really one of the few things that was working for them offensively so I mean they're going to go back to him again Alshon Jeffery is going to be matched up against Xavier Rhodes all day airman on the other side again you're relying on ankle already give you something I believe him I think he can do it why not was handled that Area Smith impressment pretty well in Green Bay now part of that is they could also run the ball the packers do not have a very good run defense right but you know against that pass rush you WanNa Kinda keep them honest at some point you're gonNA throw a lot but I think they'll move the pocket and do a lot of those ah too but it's not good so if you Jim Schwartz has been blitzing a lot more this season than we've become accustomed to and I think he vikings into long down at distances and they can at you know the effort mentioned moving Brandon Graham inside to face to get one matches again so I think it's GonNa be a they're going to rely heavily on those two tight end sets I think they're gonNA WANNA try to neutralize griffin and hunter on the and so that's kind of a big difference here they're gonNa have to pass more than they did against the packers one would presume in this game so yeah it's tough we might see that you know the pass protection skills or lack thereof of Dallas Cook and might be encouraged to fire off some blitzes the the bears but it showed up like multiple times where he just he just I don't know if he can't block earth it's too it's company really kinda prohibited them from making any real noise in the playoffs we'll take our final break here before going into our final segment NFL pigs against the spread here the right guard and have Fletcher Cox on the inside there as well that is that is the spot where they can win also by the way Davin Cook is for as good as he has a runner and even as receiver six yards per carry so far this year just historically speaking they've always been good against around so you WANNA be able to run a ball against them is easier said than done week sometimes even a third bonus episode on Tuesdays and talked to influential people around the world attack like Microsoft founder Bill Gates and other tags like founder of lime scooters the CEO our NFL picks against the spread. I don't know if Mike Francesa will be joining us this week we'll see has yet to be determined these lines come to you from outside with play action in you know get that running game heavily involved but against the run they I think it's they've given up three points there I mean as they always do they're going to have your follow Alshon Jeffery and that goes back to the days when Jeffrey played for the bears saw Tun of Abbey Road so that's going to be the match do we usually do here and Jimmy the giants are on the road for Thursday night football to play the New England Patriots Patriots are seventeen point favorites beyond me we've also been talking a lot of reporters academics about the major pressing policy issues in tech like facebook's content moderation doing great he tubes harassment plan or lacquer ed like eighty five sacks combined is is a huge number they gave the number two run defense in terms of Devi Way yes so you look at that pretty good and I think back to the not an easy situation like this week it's a really good roster that they have the quarterback aside it's just a really good team except Seles Get I mean we saw what he did to Harrison Smith US NASA Soul in the NFC championship game and then even last year in the loss of they added draftkings sportsbook sponsor just a partner of espionage and so I figured I'd use those lines that are posted starting the NFC says we always I if I have to pick one I'll go pats same Thursday night and they cheat so above and whether or not the government should break up Amazon which maybe it should and then every Friday I sit down with executive editor bone and Paul Miller for chatshow cover the latest in Tech News and product reviews Golden Tate now so I mean that's small yes so so they'll go off for sure but yeah I mean with all those injuries even still I think they got the number right on that I think Vegas did a good job coming up seventeen I don't know which way to go on that one but no see ah that's the biggest spread the giants have ever the it's the biggest The giants ever been underdogs Evan t point ever since I guess free from that organization and would not mind him as eagles off into coordinator I truly believe that's a like it's a good it's good for bringing our other reporters from around the words that show is party listen to it you can hear all that more if you subscribe to the virtuous wherever you get your podcast would love to listen and join us so again subscribe to the virtuous I do I don't care if you play in New England your plan in New York Subic number seventeen big number big number Ashington has lost a lot of you know talented coaches over the years that were formerly under him McVeigh McVeigh you know they wherever you get your podcast we'll see there we're back here on the radio episode number eighty four Brindley Young Jimmy Kamsky here with you to make it's too bad for him in the sense of like he didn't deserve to be fired right I that's not it's not like dig Gruden was holding them back it is great for him in the sense of he is now seventeen the big number the big number it's a big number seventeen seventeen is hard to cover odd number to cover in the NFL it's Washington three and a half favorites in Emmy Dolphins are coming off their bye who he got I love love washing as ups that that gives them a big advantage next team now oh this is an interesting game in the Salafist Game I love this game in the sense of the the number one pick is at stake here John No Evan Ingram I think sterling shepard might be someone there's other like they're concussed and he's GonNa be out

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