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At the Podium: Ol' Walk It To 'Em Wentz

Bleeding Green Nation

54:58 min | 1 year ago

At the Podium: Ol' Walk It To 'Em Wentz

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred in sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze Rozier. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP. The Eagles are at the podium. And we've got it all covered for you right here powered by SP nation and bleeding nation. I'm your host John Stoldas you can follow me on twitter at John. STOLNIS list coming up. We're going to hear from Doug Peterson Carson wentz in the minutes after the eagles. Big Seventeen to nine win over the Dallas cowboys on Sunday. And then we'll hear from. Doug Peterson Jason once again from his Monday afternoon. News Conference after he'd had twenty four hours to digest the eagles huge win over the Dallas cowboys. A Win that keeps their season in alive a win that was essentially a playoff win for the eagles as they needed to beat the cowboys on Sunday to keep their hopes of making the postseason alive and they did that by winning. Seventeen to nine of course as you all know and we will break it all down for you here coming up in the next few minutes as we hear from Doug and we hear from Carson tremendous game from both of those those guys but as we lead off my three things To start off this episode of at the podium the main thing the number one takeaway is yes. Carson Wentz was great. Doug Peterson John was great. But this win belongs to the defense. I my main concern coming into this game. was how in the heck the Eagles Defense which has struggled at times this year we we saw them struggle against the giants. We saw them struggle against Washington. The last two weeks we know the struggles they've had against really some bad offenses in the Falcons and the Lions wins and specifically the dolphins. How are they going to stop the number one offense in football the Dallas cowboys? How are they going to slow down? Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott and Amari Cooper. Three guys. They have not been able to stop over the last four games and the eagles defense came through Jim. Schwartz came through the secondary came through. They didn't have come Gruza Hill. He was lost for the rest of the season They had a banged up. Derrick Barnett Fletcher Cox Brain. Grandma had been struggling at different points. This season I honestly honestly didn't know I didn't know how defense was going to slow down the Dallas cowboys offense and yet they found a way to do it and one of the things that made me feel a little bit more confident as the week went on was I started to look at the eagles. Defenses home road splits and this is a completely different defensive unit when they are playing at Lincoln financial field going going into play on Sunday. The defense allowed an average of seventeen point eight points per game at home. They allowed a quarterback rating of eighty two point five and they only gave up an average of five point. Eight yards per. Play away from Lincoln. Financial Field quarterbacks had a rating of one or two point four. That's twenty points higher and average yards per play. I have seven point. Four three and the Eagles Defense on the road had given up. twenty-nine points per game twenty nine versus seventeen point eight points per game. That's a huge difference. Tonight's as I was looking over those numbers I thought to myself. No maybe maybe the defense can come through at home. That's exactly what they did on Sunday afternoon. So Ah Eight Home Games. This year the defense gave up an average of just sixteen point eight points per game. That is the third best home average in in the NFL. This is the third best home defense in the national football league. which if the eagles can finish the job against the New York giants on Sunday afternoon? Noon and Sundays Win Against Dallas means. Nothing if they don't follow it up with a win in New York against a four Win New York giants team but if they can do that they will have finished up the season as the third best home defense in the NFL and if they can get that home playoff game in the first round by winning the division they can beat the seahawks they can beat Seattle or San Francisco in Lincoln financial field. They almost beat the seahawks at home earlier. This year offensive core playing playing the way they are right now in that Seattle game they probably win that Seattle game and so I think that gives the eagles a great chance if they can manage to beat the giants the way this defense plays at home gives them a shot to beat anybody in the first round of the playoffs. They held Dallas to fifty four yards rushing in this game and kept them out of the end zone. You can't can't ask for anything more than that Ray. Dinger said on the post game. Show that the cowboys had just one snap inside the eagles red zone all game long incredible job. They had a steel curtain at the twenty yard. Line all game just phenomenal. The cowboys were twenty one percent on third down. They came into the game as the best third down team in the NFL NFL converting nearly half of their third down opportunities Ezekiel Elliott. Who has been a terror against the eagles? He had gone for over one hundred yards cards in each of his last three games against Philadelphia thirteen carries for forty seven yards. Just a three point six average for Elliot Sidney Jones. What a what a late season Sidney Jones is having? He's still not getting on the field all that much but remembering the Monday night game against the giants when he made that huge third down pass break-up to essentially save the game for the Eagles allowed the eagles to to get go on that final drive and allowed Carson Wentz to eventually win the game in overtime. Sidney Jones. Making the play of the game that Monday night was was unbelievable and then he comes back as the eagles were dealing with injuries to Ronald Darby and jalen mills went. went out for a little bit for him to make that pass. break-up on that fourth-down Gallup I think it was. Who is the wide receiver on that? Play what had just a tremendous play by. Sidney Jones owns on the final defensive. Play the game to seal the win for Philadelphia as the cowboys. Were trying to drive down the field down eight. You gotTa feel good for a guy who's the second round pick. A couple of years ago has been a healthy scratch. Most of the second half of the season he had been brutal. He had killed this team in the first half of the season in gym shorts shorts just couldn't put him on the field anymore once Ronald Darby and once Jalen Mills got healthy. They just could not play him. They couldn't afford to do it. He was making too many mistakes to see him. Come through late in the season just it must be a tremendous feeling for him to contribute here down the stretch. Malcolm Jenkins finally looked like a superstar player out there. He was all over. The place. Jenkins has been fun this year. But he hasn't been making star level plays he made star level plays I mean. They needed at least one of their star defensive players to make plays on Sunday afternoon and Malcolm Jenkins was everywhere. Tremendous game from Malcolm Jenkins now. The defense did benefit from awesome. Poor play by the cowboys. I think they had six drops. The cowboys did DAK missed a number of long throws well. Guess what the Eagles have lost about three or four games. This year are because of drops and because of throws Carson Wentz didn't make early on sometimes these things even out a little bit sometimes defense has to get a little bit of luck and they certainly certainly did that but the eagles game plan coming into this game was was pretty clear they didn't want to blitz. They looked at the numbers that showed that that Prescott was one of the better quarterbacks against the blitz this year and so they rushed for most of the game and they basically played man demand in some in some pretty straight strict zone. They didn't do anything crazy in this game. The big key was that they were disciplined. They they really focused on stopping Zeke. You'll Elliott and they made the plays that were in front of them. They tackled tackling was huge. In this game you see how something as simple as tackling can be when you're playing and letting letting receivers make make catches in front one of you. The key is to tackle to prevent them from getting the first down. Because if you if you can keep a receiver on third and six keep make that Prescott throw the ball and four yards down the field to yards in front of the first down marker and then Rapa guy up. You're going to get off the field. Every time the tackling was huge in this game. It has been it has been missing. It has been lacking for most of the second half of the season. But here in this game the tackling was tremendous. And that's what this defense needs to do from here on out if they're gonNA make stops you'd like to have seen more pressure on that Prescott. The only got one Saka Vinny Curry sack in this game but he did a lot of dumping off in the Eagles was held. And when you when you hold a team to just three field goals when you don't let them get more than one snap inside the red zone just tremendous effort by Jim swartz. This was the biggest biggest reason why the eagles one on Sunday afternoon. A very disciplined game by the eagles a well called game by Jim swartz great job by a unit that has been getting filleted played. Gym Shorts probably saved his job on Sunday afternoon. Once again he probably did enough to save his job working with a with a core that I just I wrote for bleeding green nation this week. I didn't know how they were going to beat back Prescott in the offense especially given how back in the offense looked against the rams the week before they looked like a machine again. You saw the talent that they had but but for whatever reason Dallas just couldn't they did not show up yesterday. They couldn't get the offense going in the defense did the job let's let's be fair though Carson Wentz is is proving the doubters wrong. And that's the second thing here is what Carson Wentz his doing here down. The stretch is flat out ridiculous. He's the first quarterback in NFL history to record thirty or more completions and have no interceptions in three straight games. That's insane what an insane. Statistic Ruben Franken noted that since two thousand seventeen only Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers. Have more games with at least one touchdown and no interceptions than Wentz and Carson has missed a bunch of time since two thousand seventeen in December wentz has a sixty eight percent. Completion percentage one thousand two hundred twenty passing yards nine touchdowns one interception option and a one zero one point seven passer rating. He's doing all this with Greg Ward. Jj Theta Whiteside Mile Sanders. Boston Scott and his two outstanding in tight ends and hey give. Jj credit for some big catches on that first drive he kinda disappeared later in the game. But that's when the eagles started going to a lot more screen passes a lot more to the tight ends and that seemed to work for sure. I mean it's Carson's not chuck in the ball down the field but they are finding ways to get these guys open and now Carson needs just one hundred sixty seven passing yards against the giants on Sunday to pass Donovan mcnabb for the most yards in a single season by Eagles quarterback three thousand nine hundred sixteen. He needs just two hundred fifty yards for four thousand yards passing to become the eagles. I four thousand yard passer in team history whence joins the following as the Only quarterbacks with thirty more completions in three straight Games Matt Ryan this year Kirk Cousins last year Philip rivers in two thousand fifteen peyton manning. Did it twice. Drew brees breeze. Did it three times Tom Brady. Kurt Warner Rich. Gannon Steve Young. That's it that's the list miles sanders also had a monster game and he is having a tremendous this season here in his rookie year. Forget about being just a rookie mile. Sanders has more yards from scrimmage. This year twelve seventy six than any other single player in a season season. In the Doug Peterson era. He has been a lifesaver for this team. Where would the eagles be without him? What a tremendous pick Howie? Roseman has had his share of MRS and the draft. wbt He'd nailed the Mile Sanders pick with their first pick in the second round. Only Josh Jacobs with thirteen hundred sixteen yards for has more yards from scrimmage as a rookie this ear then miles Sanders Dallas Gutter a phenomenal game from Dallas Goddard. And I've been hard on this year. I thought he's been he's been largely invisible -able for for much of the first two years here. He's come up with some big catches from time to time. But since they lost Jeffrey and since they lost Aguilar and they've had to go to two tight ends and really utilize I utilize both of them in the passing game. Goddard has been a monster and again on Sunday nine catches for ninety one yards and a touchdown some tough catches which is a tremendous touchdown catch in the first quarter what a grab what a throw by Carson Wentz Finding Goddard winning that fifty fifty ball in the end zone just a phenomenal game from Goddard. I take back everything I said kissing so like you were right. Dallas Goddard is a very good football player. This was the breakout game that I had been waiting for to see from Goddard. We're now seeing it on. We're now seeing in the statute we're now seeing it on the field in Production Dallas Goddard proving. He's a number one caliber tight end giving the eagles to to legitimate options when they really need them with no wide receivers out there. Just put on at this point with this younger hungrier crew. It's clear this is a better offense. They've developed a chemistry with Wentz that frankly carson did not have with Nelson and Alshon and if they make the playoffs offs and can win a home game in the first round. They might get the Sean Jackson back and then at that point. There's no reason to think that this offense can't put up thirty thirty five five points against anybody. They've just got a win against New York on Sunday to win the NFC East get that home playoff game and then if they win that home playoff game which they could do does Shawn. Jackson is eligible to come back. You never know one point of concern. JAKE ELLIOTT MS two of three field goals on Sunday. They were long ones but pixies gotta make An. I don't agree with Doug Peterson going for that. Second Field Goal that fifty five yarder at that point in the game. You either go for it on. What was it four thin Six four th and five at that point but you're deep in Dallas territory either punt them deep and make Dallas drive the length of the field when they're down owned by two scores. I think it was what an eleven point game at that point. Either go forward or punit. The field goal in that situation was the absolute wrong. Call the analytic skies. If they were whispering that in Doug Peterson they missed the boat on that one. You don't kick the field goal there. They should have gone for it or they should have punted. That being said Elliott has struggled lately. He's just six express last ten all since signing a contract extension. One doesn't really have anything to do with the other but they need. They need to get Eliot going here in the final game of the season in order for him to get a little bit of confidence. Getting into the postseason. Because you need your field goal kicker feeling confident in close postseason games so the third third thing and this was again so blatantly obvious. Is that coaching matters. And it seems pretty clear to anyone who has watched these two teams this year. Anyone who knows anything about these two head coaches that if if Doug Peterson is on the cowboys and Jason Garrett is head coaching the eagles the the eagles would probably be six and nine or five and ten right now and the cowboys would be twelve and three. There's no way cowboys team with that much. Talent should be seven seven and eight after fifteen weeks if Doug Peterson is coaching that team. That team is probably vying for a first round. Bye and the Eagles are trying to figure out who they're going to pick nick in the top five of the draft Jason Garrett took Amari Cooper out on the final sequence of this game and Cooper seem to question the coaching staff for his ineffectiveness. Listen this game. You only had four catches for twenty four yards. I think average six yards a catch. Cooper talked to the reporters about all the short routes that he ran and said I feel like the go ball was a good route to run tonight. And we really didn't get to it cowboys coach Jason Garrett said via David More of the Dallas morning news that Cooper and Randall Cobb. We're not on on the field for the final fourth down play because they needed a rest after being in for a lot of the plays in the two minute offense that despite the fact that Cooper was not in for much of the second half but he was standing on the sideline and watching and Cooper's been battling a knee injury but Garrett said that he was rotating with Tavon Austin and Tabin was in. And you know the key. He's also said that the cowboys were in the hurry. Up Offense for much of that fourth quarter and they just couldn't get cooper back in the game. Which is insanity this tells you how bad of a coach Jason Garrett is why he's not going to be the head coach of this football team after this year? How you don't have Amari Cooper who has torched the eagles in his match-ups with this team since being traded to Dallas is beyond me? I don't care how banged up Cooper is. He's got to be in the game if for no other reason to make them to make Eagle Eagle Eagles secondary concerned about the deepal and also. Why does why does Ezekiel Elliott get just thirteen carries in this game? This was a close game. The Eagles did a good job. bottling him up but the fact that he got just thirteen carries has to be driving Dallas fans. Absolutely crazy Jason Garrett. Is the reason the this. This cowboys team is is looking at spending the offseason playing golf and not playing postseason football and Doug. Peterson is the reason this eagles team with no Alshon. Now Sean. With no Deshaun with no Nelson Aguilar with injuries everywhere on the offense no Jordan Howard. No Lane Johnson that this team is eight and seven and a win against a four win team away from getting to the playoffs for the third year in a row Doug Peterson now. Nine and two in Games fourteen through sixteen here you're in his career and he sat one of stars in most of one of those losses. He can make it ten to with a win against the giants now. He's six and seven in November. And that's got to improve appear over the next few years but the fact that Doug Peterson gets this team to play at their best. In December says something about Doug Peterson and that he's able to come up with plays with this. Limited skills with this limited cast. On offense is is is unbelievable. And he's doing he's done it with Nick foles and now now he's doing it with Carson Wentz and Carson wentz gang for everybody who wanted nick foles to walk back through those doors Carson. Wentz is doing all of the things that people didn't think he could do that. Only Nick foles could do. He's been clutch. He's been a winner. He's been lifting his teammates elevating his teammates. I think most of that stuff is Malarkey Larkin anyway but Carson Wentz playing his best football right now winning football games with a cast that nick full of a worst cast nick foles ever had in Philadelphia. So everybody everybody who who who still pining for Nick Foles ooh did or who didn't think that Carson Wentz was a winner and that Nick foles was a winner. Carson Wentz has been. Nick foles these these last three weeks. He's pulled wins out that really. No No quarterback should have been able to pull out. So if you've been wanting nick foles to be the guy this year Carson Carson Wentz has been nick foles but not only that Carson Wentz is like way better than Nick Foles Carson wentz showing that he was worth the investment that he was the was the right decision Asian to keep him in anybody. Who still believes that Nick foles should be this team's quarterback that going with Carson Wentz was a mistake are likely eating being? There should be eating their words here on Monday morning. Of course again. None of this matters if the eagles don't win on Sunday afternoon at four twenty five against the giants the the NFL flex the eagles giant's game so the now the eagles and giants and cowboys in Washington. We'll both be playing at four twenty five next Sunday afternoon and with the NFC East on the line. Let's head to the podium and let's get to Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz. And then we'll hear from Doug again in his Monday afternoon. News Conference Difference Baseball truly. It is awful. 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We had success tonight so something that we We continue to to build upon each week. Discourses behind rates. I think we can. We can Help him by formation. You know defense can can be a little more Kind of their base defense their base structure whether they're nickel or Based on field see things quickly allows him to get in and out of place if he has to And then and then our guys whose execute well it's been something it's Obscene positive for office defense industrial doesn't Miss. Who is the credential timeout? Yeah I wanNA full only Gal. This'll missile on sportscenter high. You'll hit fettes. Didn't allow them a couch down in this game Man Defense hats off these guys Date listen they they. They took this game. I think personal From the standpoint of what happened does the first time you know and Haven't haven't all our guys out there are. They had a great week of preparation. Obviously and we knew that coming in here that it the Dallas where they were coming off a great win last last week against the rams and the two hundred and fifty something yards rushing and they knew that was coming in and being able to You know at least you know. Shut that down to some to some degree That it's a private thing each week you know and and to keep this This is this is a great offense They can score points and to keep them out of the end zone home to three kicks like they did stop him. Awesome fourth downs Hats off to defense coach Washington awards in in his staff for a game. Where is it about you guys in December? I assume you'd rather not come down to the last few games like this every time but was saved. You buy your team. What is I think? I think he's just obviously you don't want it to come down to the month of December. I mean but you'd like to play better. You know. September October November but I just think the guys this is the team that when their backs against the wall they come out swinging and fighting in and whatever it takes also times. It's not not pretty and it doesn't have to be you know and Just put some plays together score more. Oh points in our opponent holder opponents down and you know just just play great team football and If we beat ourselves we give ourselves a chance and And that was what happened tonight. Dallas play today Guscott her click Progress Dallas had an outstanding game. As did many any of our younger players in this football game again and E- e- so tough Not only in the run run game but made some big catches tonight and Extended some dry forests and it's got a great report obviously Carson being on the same page and Just had a brilliant. Well you know miles has been getting better. Better see how this kind of workload yet again a game like this. I mean it's just It doesn't surprise me You know this is why we why we drafted him. Obviously for this type of You know for these types of games in performance seems to get a little bit stronger longer a little bit better each week and Yet another another good performance tonight About the offensive line as the game progressed Got Stronger and stronger and I was just really good to see you got the running game Kinda on-track in the second half and and The miles is really You you know kind of coming into his own now as a young player in really helping this offensive. Some of those younger players not just miles. Talk a lot about Greg. Josh not to have those guys playing this bar out of playoff game playoff like S.'s. Quarterly off game tonight was a playoff game. Means it means everything and and I think that's something that our team understand each week. Now you know starting in a couple of weeks go. Every week was a playoff game. Otherwise you know we're GONNA go home here in a couple two weeks but in our seasons not not done. We got another week left. I think our team understands that we've got A. We've got another division opponent on the road a chance to continue your season and it's GonNa take another sixty minute game. We went to overtime. You know what this team couple of weeks ago and You know our guys will have to be ready again to get healthy holiday week coming up and everything that's happening this week in in in prepare and get ready to play the nights guys how much in what way his has arsenal channel Starchy Carson. You know I I just think that he's you know He. He just continues to coach on the field. That you see during the Games talking with these guys in in Yeah You know it's just. It's just helping him you know and I think you're seeing the the trust factor with some of these young guys you know that. He's he's leaning on him a little bit more and and that's what you gotta do. I mean listen you know these guys are playing with so you know we. We've got to do that. He's done an outstanding job of leading the not not only the offense but the whole team and had another solid performance. Today we just gotTa keep it role in space. It is lying in a slyly. Live like waste. You know we feel like he can do that but you know we gotta be careful with them. I don't want to you know Do too much with them mentally. I wanted to continue to play play fast and and You know but but I think he's. He's versatile AL enough to you. Know play in space play in an empty formation or slot receiver which he did some tonight and he's just He's just really good athlete for us. And we'll just continue to find ways to to try to give them a boat. Holiday Week distractions guys. Feel good coming off a big win you have to Guardian Solo look human nature here You do but I'll tell you this These guys in the locker room. They're focused on next week. Already you know that. And that's scouse conversation that that has taken place in in Larkham even after this game I want them to enjoy this and and enjoy their families. This week with this time of the year is four But at the same time we got some unfinished business and And that's what they're talking about so that's exciting for me as a coach to know that. That's that's where their minds ad and and You know we we we have to. I can help them out with the schedule and all that this week. I'm excited for that. Aren't they a big big win for us The crops electric tonight to you know felt like playoff atmosphere Just like we said the last few weeks our backs against wall guys made plays defense played. Great offensively we left. We definitely have some place in some points out there but man if it feels good to get this victory take this season how to place de great great to be with guys again And like I said that playoff atmosphere can't be can't beat it especially being at home here Fans are awesome tonight guys made plays but You know at the end of the day we still got one more cars. It seems for the second consecutive week had some tempo to get you guys. Galley offensively How much is that helping? It's quite a a bit. I mean you you see it You know There's evidence obviously that is helping us in you know. I think that's one thing that coach I've said it before. But he just has a really good. I feel for when when to utilize it when you realize it whether you know he feels the defense. Is there on the rope on the ropes. Or if we're just we're moving ball whatever takes but Coaching is really good sense of when to do that. And when when not to pass crank byles is that play bitter playable Violets L. we've seen that route cobbles. Yes we would be able to do it at the line. At the line of scrimmage you know got a linebacker out during space in. Plato's his is a little bit and obviously Greg K might open on the sideline did a great job as big play for guys. You guys are cool enough at this time with working with her to see if he's going on so proud of this yes So proud of them. It's been really fun you know. Obviously we've had our backs against the wall while now and You know just the you can see the sense of belief that that each of these guys have you know and you see it. Each week with getting veteran veteran believing in themselves and believing in this team and I can't say enough good things about these young guys are continually stepping up for us. And we're GONNA need these guys downstream up early early in the game. Dallas stepped up career-high receptions and yards. Talk about that too tight ends like that. It's it's awesome. I mean they have really been three. I mean Josh Perkins. I don't know what he had for catches if any tonight but you know. He's a weapon that we feel. We can take advantage of his. Well now. I feel terrible. That attack you know got banged up to him. I I own something now but You know we've had Dallas Even last year we know can do. We know what he can do and You you know. He stepped up and made a bunch of big place for tonight and he's a competitor for about the way the coaches got a tailored the offense to all these guys Mrs not the way it was drawn up packet hats off hats off to the coaches putting the others game plan and doing what we can You know to to get our playmakers ball. Get Him get. Get Him in space in building His offense to each guys strength. You know and that's really what good coaching is in. You've seen that These last few weeks was with the game plans in How we put it together and You know it's been fun putting together with five hundred aspirin. Now last week's yourself places the South Wing. Yeah we're we're excited You know that was one of the first things that I was feeling. Obviously everyone's excited about this win but we we got one more one more one nothing yet. But we're excited for the opportunity. It's in our own hands to go take it and We're excited for they. Just get back on get back on and prepare the same way we always do in have letdowns in and it's going to take you know the leaders to it to make sure we're we're emphasizing that point But at the same time you know even just talking to a lot of guys locker my I can already feel that I can already feel that. Hey No one's no one's complacent our it feels like we want anything. We gotta go prove it again and we're excited for is less yourself as I it's hard to say it's just been I use the word fun just because it has been fun. You know seeing some of these guys just just grow up right before our eyes. No how in practice. Who seemed guys do it for some of these guys do it for a while? Some of these guys. We haven't really seen much at all but it's something new every time that we're working with and just seeing them grow grow up and make plays in the moments not too big for any of these guys and I just love seeing that in it's encouraging guys on defense in often everyone's is rallying together with a sense of belief. And that's what we're about to get the job on that ebbing as big. Especially you know. Feels like we've been down To these guys you know the last handful of games in Come out swinging early. The way we did you know obviously got I feel going to give touchdown there and Be Able to got up to the got ten points wanted to stay on it but It was big for us to come out and really start getting some momentum offensive the time of the way you approach them or something right tackle not really you know. I've felt even last last time against them. We had a great game plan And we just didn't make place last time and all the turnovers and put ourselves in in really tough situations Today we were able to convert apple third downs. There's still what we want back. But let's stay on the field and at the end they would just a little bit of a different week coming up with the holidays. And here's some human nature involved in that pulled in different directions. Doug Talk to you guys leaders and try to keep that sense of urgency go absolutely. Yeah you know I mean and you can go back to the Thanksgiving Week. Just it's it's important to have that that moment with our families and stuff and coach definitely emphasizes that But when we're working we're working you know nothing changes on that front and obviously it's an exciting time of year Christian means a lot to a lot of us but Yeah family part will definitely be there but I guess when we're working the go-to belt personality of fifteen hundred. How would you define it? Resilient energetic I think is a lot of excitement was with the unknown. A Lotta new faces guys that maybe weren't Expected to I'd be making these plays in that. So that unknown factor just as exciting you know and I think just the resiliency that I've seen that it's been the next man up mentality From really the moment I got here in Philly but You just see it over and over and it's exciting to see these guys come to work with the sense of belief in proudly taken that working and to get it done out here in this window. throaty got her back in the end zone over the linebacker close. Would you see play. Ralph Reed You know to look for onsite quick and come back to Dallas Dallas played big knowing. You got a body like like he does Can jump compound building where he can I said put it up in a hot in tall spot for him to go. Get it over those guys and he made great play. The last two years watching games like this late several sideline is it released satisfying just as much to be out. There was absolutely absolutely you know the last couple of years where I was on silent. It's not gonNA be no but the end of the day you know. God has a plan forward. And I'm just I'm trying to make most of the opportunities but you know it's fun like I said to be out there in playoff type atmosphere environments with with my teammates And do you get a big win like this Rohingya absolutely absolutely I mean you you know anytime. I'm you have the the late game wins. You know in the way we have Less two weeks now here tonight. Defense Meghan Hughes play at the end of the game you know and Someone on different making the big play every week but you know you can just feel that believes that guys. Hey we're GonNa get this done or win this game we're gonNA find a way And we do that again. I guess there's Markers Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers injures of college football podcast says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what I mean. It's all spoiled every Tuesday. We talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling. Too unfashionable pants worn middle school. We also do talk about college. Football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early. And unfashionable national. Pants that coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. or in your favorite podcast APP. Were you in there. That has those millions. Put that thing all right. Good afternoon. Apologize for being late. Zakar This is to is running update on. Yeah obviously still law took the took the shot there in the first half and and There is a real That has been affected I am waiting on with our doctors a couple more tests. Offer some other things but You know we'll see wall seed later today. Actually we probably have something more for you updated either tomorrow or by Thursday when I see is again woodside back. Yeah Yeah it is You know that he got back out there just shows the toughness and his willingness to get back out there but as you guys know we we take every injury are- Seriously it make sure that we protect our players. And that's what Mondays are for. You know to do full evaluation. All our guys get nicked. Nick Open Games was been putting up some really good numbers in these last three games. Can you appreciate what he's doing because he has been on this stage in a while. He's been watching the sidelines in the last two years that he now he's raising of those games not just ahead Yeah Carson. I tell you You know the way. He's leading this football team right now. On the way he's playing you know Protecting the football number one Completion percentage you know he's taken what defenses are giving them what they're presenting is running the offense. He's doing things we ask him to do. He's he's playing tough he's running running. He's using his legs. All the things You know we know he's capable of doing. What's what's exciting for us? I mean this is fact that You know how he's doing it. I think through When when the when the opportunity arises you know take the shot down the field when it's not easy getting the ball out of his hand? He's protected himself an and a and it's allowed us to stay on the field extending some drives. And you know there are some place yesterday. Even that we left out on the field that you know we'd we'd like to have back into again but What he's done with his team wouldn't count the team on his shoulders in and put us in this position to You know obviously Komo when the NFC is is awesome for your quarterback for the future. What can this is career? This accomplished I think it can accomplish a quite a bit. I mean you think about his rookie season season. He played all sixteen games and then he missed seventeen eighteen at the end in the now. He's he's here at the end again so I think it shows that he can get through a season of one relatively healthy. I mean at this point But at the same time it it shows that he can he can carry this football team and be the leader. Were this football team. And and that's that's you carson. Wentz is and that's what works out at about as we as we move forward not only the remainder of the season but You know in the future teacher Sidney Jones and what he did yesterday Lambie zone and everything like that. I mean considering like how far down in his job and everything like that not playing for several weeks I mean what does it say about him to choice the last three weeks it. Yeah I just think it's it's it shows the resiliency of him personally You know because you know a lot has been you know sort of either said or written about about him and his performance in in in the not playing and and all of that and then getting an opportunity to play play here in the last couple of weeks and step in what he's done and and and really made a big plays in big moments and that's again that's who you know We thought all along Sidney Jones is the type of player he is capable of doing and that just that just helps his confidence. You know moving forward and the next time he gets an opportunity to play. You know he just learned from it gains that strength mentally and just becomes you know becomes better. Thank up just how I thought Jason played played. They'd well I thought the offensive line played well as a whole You know there's there's obviously some things I think he is a couple of times he overset get beat inside on a couple of things but you you know I thought overall he played Played played well and did did some really really good things for us At some fortunate on the one penalty on the screen the a big play. But it's going to happen got defender. He turned his back and got a blocked back on that particular play but you know. JP is a veteran warrior and scared to see him in the lineup so she this late in the season two earlier. This is you talk about the importance or carson kind of take what the defense gives him as a change in personnel kind of aided that in that maybe there aren't as many down to address in everything has been Closer yeah I I think about this question a lot is no. It's it's it's kind of who we are as an offense right now right With the personnel. That we have and you know one of the things I think that You're seeing some of the young players from the new faces. Just they're just so eager energetic to be out there playing they wanted they wanNA play. Well they WANNA do the right thing and I think I think from a game plan perspective. We try to keep it as simple as we can't you know we're not moving pieces around so those guys can just line up and play fast. I think from a quarterback we're back standpoint knowing where they're going to be an aiding with communication through throughout the game on you know And then obviously during the week But these guys you know these guys are there busting their tail for Carson in Carson. It is trusting them and giving them every opportunity to to to to make place Early in the game. You know with with Robert Davis he saw with JJ obviously greg throughout the course of the game And you know Dallas you you know. He played probably his best game of his career. And things like that. So I just all everything. Just kinda comes together for the quarterback. We're back in obviously. He's the leader and has to rally these guys to to perform and you see the trust factor with the with all those guys like your best when you guys are WanNa dog you have to blue solve with carson going down two thousand Seventeen neg salt last year again injuries on offense like your messaging pitching it. I think it's yeah I mean I think I think the guy's really respond obviously to adversity. You don't you don't ever want to be in this situation with so many injuries. Listen the way. Our season's gone to respond this late in the year. You love for this to happen. We talked about this before. But you want to. Maybe respond a little bit sooner in the season. But you know I I. I think that you know I listen to me handling the football team and deal I keep it as honest to keep it as transparent as I can hand with the guys in those guys this is. This is where we're at. You know this is. This is who we are less embrace it. You know Let's spend each day getting better and just focus on today and in s kind of in the messaging here down the stretch and and You know Kinda whatever happens happens but we stick together and and and you know trusting each other. Do those types of things because a lot has to happen for a win in the National Football League and up these is guys these guys trust in each other. And that's what that's what it takes. That's what you're seeing right now on guys won't be the underdog Sunday of how do you have. This is not taking the giants team that could want spoiler rival seriously doubting. Just just just put on the film and watch the giants right now and and you know Football team is too good football team and and this the defense that there were playing good defense and they've got lots of young guys in the back end and they're playing really well as well. This is a big defensive line and You know what Daniel Jones did yesterday. You know I mean coming off an injury doing doing those things. So and they've got weapons on offense so I mean look we've we've got a lot on the line I mean we've got the NFC's who got a possible playoffs bottoming. You know what we've done to this point joint doesn't matter yet matters but you know what it's about going to know this week and again putting putting the hard work in the preparation operation into to to try to win a game and its heart but our guys will be up for did that calm Fletcher surgeon on. Did you not listen to Angelo myself conversation. I not and you are not. I wasn't Game he asked the same question. No it wasn't. It wasn't a reaction to our players. Even though that sort of you know obviously that can be an indication for some things but We were wait. I think there was a cowboy also injured alles player at the time so it allowed us to get a couple more Looks on TV and there was a couple of clean. You know in clear looks wanted to make sure I had a clean recovery. You know There was so that along with our players reaction prompted me to throw the play Dogwood. The let's pass interference booth review that. That's kind of a rare thing you know again game yet lobby. That's unusual. Yeah but you know a lot of times. They'RE GONNA they're gonNA look at those things as as we kinda study on and look throughout the course not only are games but league wide in those situations in its inside of two minutes so they get a chance the the booth gets a chance to stop the game and look at those up to make sure that You know everything was clean but even from our perspective in in what we saw live and then what we saw on the review that there really wasn't enough Both guys were sort of jockeying for position in just a great play by Sydney. The I did hear your explanation for why you didn't run a quarterback's Nicholas third and fourth in what is for staff had lane in play. Would it changed the khaki your calculation now now again this is this is another big front. Big Tackles type fronts on third down one fourth in one situation nations. It was something we studied during the week. I mean listen we had plays in for. QB sneak plays and all that are built into the game plan and all that but just at that time knowing that you know Dallas does play a little bit more zone coverage from the primer and we had a guy there. We just got edged begun inched consistency. The defense has played a lot of top running backs and aside from seeking in the first game. You've done a decent job of this guy's Dan Jones in Green Bay. At and whoever else Barton. I what is what has been the key through your defense assist to do that because these guys gets everybody else's Bugai's this year. Yeah I you know obviously you know. Our style defense were penetrating style valid fence delight and they get up the field in our two tackles taken. A Lotta double teams flex gets a lot of double teams You know whether Tim he's in there Russia's in there they get a lot of double team so it Kinda freeze up our ends a little bit in our linebackers to run and flow and and fill gaps are corners. Have done a great job of Of coming up in supporting the Ron R.. SAFETIES in the box. It's a lot of moving parts there but That's one of the things that that has really affected the run game. It's just penetration From our front this week. So what are the key. Yeah I mean it's gotta be the same you know it's gotTa would be the same you know we we gotta gotTa Kinda duplicate what we've done the last couple of weeks to hold Dallas in Zeke to two fifty fifty four yards of rushing. Offense is my hat's off to those guys because they they pride themselves one in stopping the rush and you know you can do that. It gives as you chance and this is another another opportunity another great test coming up this weekend other injuries town where so so vain the two corners the bills. Jj Douse so lane lanes improving. He's he's more day to day. We'll see gotta get him on. Land got to get them to Ron and see where he's he's out the ankle but he's he's he's improving Jj Actually. I'm waiting on. He's going to have another test result tomorrow but should be fine. Nothing nothing too you. Serious there I would I would expect Darby is the one that's GONNA probably He's a little more senior pregnant miss atop Arby's Arby's Arby's is a little bit more serious And his his he's probably GonNa Miss Minnesota and there was one more mills mills. His you know his his ankle and tough guy. Tough kid in a finishing the game. Obviously but E- e- is going to be day to day. It's right now. He's you know he's hurting today. But we'll see as the week goes on and progressive. So is there any source lanier sitting in. Yeah I be right now. It'd be result you know going forward. You've never had a a guys versatile is via here. Sorry for right here. I never had a guy skillset. We talk on out while Smith's arse of the garden state. Yes czar team. What is what does that? Give us a play caller to have that flexibility. A different kind of guy who can do juicery different things. A lot of different places to open up a lot of things it does You know it allows us to to move him around by formation my play conceptually whatever. We're trying to get done same with Boston. A little bit But the miles and then and in protection Understanding on third down you know blitz protection and how. He's improved there. So yeah it gives you a little more flexibility You know to do that with him. His skill set and What a what a tremendous game he played again yesterday But but Everything I think we've seen from miles up to this. Point is is what we expected of him and and he just disagreed breath. Hold on. 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Eagles Fire Doug Pederson

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Eagles Fire Doug Pederson

"We want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. Hybrid cloud approach ibm helps retailers manage supply chains with watson. Ai while predicting demands with ease the world is going hybrid with ibm visit ibm dot com slash hybrid cloud. Nfl live. everybody as you can see. We are all here. Times dan orlovsky. Marcus fears already. Talked a little snack after the browns. What don't worry don't credit today. Mark is going to be given baker. Mayfield his flower. They finally got that playoff win. But we begin with breaking news and for that we go to adam schefter. What's the latest philadelphia. Laura the philadelphia. Eagles have fired their super bowl winning head coach. Doug peterson he met with jeffrey loria. The owner today and jeffrey lurie made the decision to move on from. Doug peterson to go a separate direction. And i think there are a combination of factors that contributed to lure his decision. We the fact of the season with the team winning four games in a division that was right to be one and the eagles had the worst record in the division. Then you mix in the sunday night debacle against the washington football team in which the eagles laid down on national television and essentially gift at the nfc east title to washington. And then in the postseason meetings. In which. Jeffrey lurie wanted to hear doug peterson's vision for the franchise move forward the assistance he planned to hire to replace jim schwartz on the defensive side of the football the assistance they let go on the offensive side of the football. Don't think jeffrey lurie loved what he heard. I think that doug peterson was happy to promote from within. And i think. Jeffrey lurie was looking for a broader bigger. More ambitious vision from doug peterson and so three seasons after doug peterson becomes the first coach in eagles history to lead them to a super bowl title three years later. He sent packing fired now a coaching asian on this throughout the day. Adam schefter with us all show long so a lot more to get to their dan. This is the thing that keeps coming to mind as you think about the eagles in their future. Let's start here. What does this mean carson wentz russia's on the time pressures on initially i think okay. There was the power struggle we've been saying for weeks. Are the eagles gonna choose. Doug peterson carson wentz. There's a little bit of me that feels like carson wentz one out here right now. The pressure goes to carson wentz because there obviously making the decision with a little bit him him in mind and the next decision is going to be with him in mind as well what head coach loves carson wentz what had coats believes that carson wentz could be a superstar in the nfl. What head coach has got the ambitious vision that shift he just said to fix carson wentz giving them back on track. Once that hires made it's going to be all eyes on number eleven going okay now. The coaching decision is there. You gotta go play big time football and so there is a ton of pressure on carson wentz again and when you think about that meena it's because of the money that's carson wentz right. They're trying to bring somebody in who could potentially make that work long term. Do you think though that doug peterson loses his job. If he doesn't bench jalen hurts in that game that everyone continues to talk about the million dollar question or the hundred million dollar question. I can't remember how much carson wentz his contract is worth because it certainly felt like a not. A solely peterson made decision. I'm trying to put this gently And now and and that's important because as we spend this and we're not only asking. What sort of coach can do all the things that dan listed. We're also asking what sort of coach this job. Because it's not a great one. You gotta capped out roster with a ton of aging veterans. You have a big question mark at the quarterback position and you have exactly what dan script described which is a power struggle that occurred not just involving the quarterback in the coach but also the front office. I know you hate. Game of thrones references. Because you don't watch the show and get an but doug peterson just got head starts. Okay and whatever coach looking at this job knows just happened and you're walking into a very tricky situation. Marcus things come to mind one. The coaching search landscape should change. Because doug peterson is a good coat. Doubt all right. You're the second thing is when you look at everything that transpired in philly this year. I said the only way. Doug peterson would be fired if he lost the locker room right. So i didn't have the you know i don't have the inside info about what's going on with him and howie roseman lurie. I don't know that relationship dynamic. We knew there was some bad blood between him and carson wentz obviously and if the decision was made predicated on you view that as losing the locker room as well but i play for the cowboys. Y'all in eight years. I played for three different coaches. It's been it's been twenty five years since they've been to the super bowl like good coaches are not just walking around. I know we get it at the end of the season with all of these guys and excited about what they can potentially do. I'm not firing a costa just won the super bowl into goes to the playoffs with rams roster over one bad year. I'm not doing the first ever super bowl title. Rot to philadelphia. By doug peterson. His statue is in front of who's stadium and when you think about this and i think it's really worth bringing up. We'll go back to adam schefter here. Obviously the coaching search changes. As marcus mentioned the the landscape changes but what type of coach or the eagles looking for here at him i will. Changes is one more coach in the pool. And doug peterson and there are a lot of people who believe that. Doug peterson has strong connections to the jets general manager. Joe douglas and the doug peterson will be a candidate for the new york. Jets gerrymandered or in new york jets head coaching job as the eagles looking for look. I think this just happened. I think they're sifting through their options. I don't think that they thought they were going to be in the spot that they are today. And i think jeffrey loria would like to be drawn to some dynamic auto minded coach who can help carson wayne. Sore jalen hurts fulfill their potential whatever quarterback they decided to go with but it's a tricky proposition again. They are now playing catch up to the other sixteen teams in the league who have head coaching vacancies. Who essentially been through their first round of zoom interviews. Now the upside here is that the don't have to jet around the country. They can't generally country and go meet with everybody. Because that's not how the interview process works this year so tomorrow the next day whenever they start this they can get a bunch of candidates on june calls. Begin to play catch up with the candidates that they desire going to be so interesting to watch and really another great point by all of you. That doug peterson name is now in this. Mix as well for those openings. That adam mentioned. I want to get your reaction to that connection that adam just talked about to the jets with doug peterson. Oh if i'm doug. Peterson and i get to go from the eagles to the jets. I'm stoked that's a much better job. I mean we're gonna watch the national championship tonight. Catch us all on. Espn two right now. And i guarantee you that joe douglas and everyone in the jets organizations can be watching justin fields because they got a lot of big decisions. They've also got everything i just said. The eagles don't have the jets have young core cap. Space draft picks There's a lot of flexibility there. And as marcus pointed out. Doug peterson is a proven coach. You wonder if it could be a glow up for doug. Peterson never do own or rent. Your home sure you do and i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com now round win it forty eight to thirty seven but listen steelers wide receiver chase. Claypool didn't seem to care. Ethan bad loss but the browns are gonna get slaps next week. So it's all good. Of course i mean they're facing the chiefs. You liked that bike. I like any sort of hate between teams to be perfectly clear. I live for the petty. We'll talk about the chiefs later but let's celebrate the browns today so you can glad all right all right. We'll talk about the browns. Let's give them their flowers Sometimes with a game that has chaotic as an opening script as this one did it can be hard to settle on takeaways because things get got out of hand so quickly. But i won baker mayfield. Qb you can wear had any way you want to when that generally just incredibly poised and clutch to again takeaways for this game practice might be kinda overrated. I'm i'm not showing up to any of our pre show calls anymore really a third to go in. This is my biggest one. How about the stone on alex. Van pelt kevin stefanski. Put together. what. You saw the first quarter and i thought it was brilliant terms of getting the ball out of baker mayfield's hand co glee. Quickstart has all season to neutralize that. Steelers pass rush. She was excellent against the blitz. But what i loved in this was pure van because defense. He couldn't call in stupidly. But whatever fourth quarter. The browser playing with the lead. Now a lot of coaches will look at your team and say we have an elite running game. We've missing some offensive lineman but we're going to keep pounding the rock and try to preserve our lead and bleed clack not alex van pelt top of the fourth quarter. Five out of six plays are passes including by the way when he did what everyone does to the steelers and the identified can get a sleep receive run linebacker all year jarvis. Landry aggression keep your on the gas pedal and he deserves a ton of growth. Yup i know she said i love it what you did. They let me before. I just because i got all shade coming from this guy. I feel it's a little cooler over here. These pigs about the browns. Nobody did thank anyway. Let me sound said they wanted to. I was actually included in that. Cadres might not have affection. I just want to say in my way. And you didn't have people i did take. The browns told john monday. That i was taking the browns. I don't make picks on friday. I'm not on friday. show go ahead. let's be nice. Oh no no accountability taking this anyway. Let me talk about this. Because we can get enamored with kareem hunt and baker mayfield. I i'm glad i get a chance to talk about him answering. We saw it against the ravens. We saw baker mayfield key drives key third down pickups against the ravens. We saw him do it against the tennessee. Titans but this was the one like this this staple right here after not having practice after. Not having you guys. We talked about the loss to the jets. And what happened to them in the play. Call and all of that. And during this game i tweeted all my god cleveland and took a foot off the gas about allow. The pittsburgh steelers the football game. It felt like that and baker mayfield took his team down feel with his arm. I we know kareem hunt mixed up. But the fact that he was converting third downs making plays off script as a quarterback to me. That's how cleveland browns can go further than we thought. They could their offensive line put on an absolute clinic last night. Eight clinic in their run game. And you guys have heard me say often tons. Be really good on the front side. Be great on the backside. That's how you get a great run game and it showed up less than look at. Why tell i'd right. I look at these first of all. That's we could division. Don't luck the blitzer by conklin awesome to get to the second. What teller win on your glock kareem physical. But that's not the only time. How about the thirty. Three kareem hunt touchdown run watched a little emotion. Come over from coop. Now teller and conklin again. Watch conkland and tell her climb teller. You got vision on the backside. The background that's great. How about jc charter body on the body body body on a body. That's the browns run game. That was dominant last night. That's the reason. They won the football games because they wanted to play to their identity and showed up that being said you said a longtime we're going to trust the browns until they beat somebody good and they've done it all season and you said you weren't going to trust baker mayfield till he bald. He's bald all year. So you the browns at apology and you one hundred dollars in my dad. Gum van. mo- okay. I was sent to you. 'cause i'm straight on the money but libya anisa firm. I cannot deny the fact that baker may feel in the last few weeks of the season more to me than the beginning he was being. I thought he was being cared about. We got our apology there. We go all right so the browns advance at more on that later potentially soda the saints saints drew brees. We'll get to celebrate his forty second birthday friday preparing for a playoff game against the bucks with the only active quarterback older than him. Of course tom brady would be that person as the saints beat. The bears twenty one to nine on sunday. Album chimera rushed for ninety nine yards and a touchdown. Big win for those saints and it ended in a little slide. Action for sean payton nickelodeon jazz. Lot of the divisional. Round of the playoffs are set. The rams and packers kick things off on saturday in green bay. Two of the hottest. Qb's in the league go head to head on saturday night with the bills hosting the ravens and then on sunday. It's those defending super bowl. Champion chiefs hosting the cleveland browns. What a better way to wrap it all up than brady vs. Brees on sunday night in new orleans. Divisional round coming our way both of the quarterbacks alabama actually accounts for six of those eight players. Todd mcveigh's list with heisman trophy winner. Devante smith topping the list at number four overall and now for the breaking news for today. Doug peterson is out in philly. The man who led the eagles to their first and only super bowl title has a statue outside the stadium. He's been fired. A source told our dan graziano and many expect hereson to remain despite only four wins. Twenty twenty but meetings with owner. Jeffrey laurie his boss. That he was the right man to lead the team going forward to south hell antonio joining us now and let's start here. So what's the reaction in philly to the eagles parting ways with. Doug peterson i think. It's a mixture of shock and sadness. This is a sad day in the history of philadelphia sports that you would part ways with the first and only coach to bring a super bowl title bring a championship parade. You've got to understand the philadelphia. Eagles are not just a sport in this town. They are a way of life and this now suffered through decades and decades without a championship and doug. Peterson did the best coaching job. In franchise history. Laura the best. He lost his quarterback. Starting middle linebacker starting left tackle is best special teams player and then he went on to beat the dynasty in the super bowl. Doug peterson fired parting. Ways with the philadelphia eagles. sad day. now. I just talked to somebody very close to doug peterson who said that. The coach is going to take some time. Talk to his wife jany and decide what he wants to do next. But as adam schefter just reported this throws the coaching carousel the search for seven head coaches now into a state of flux and there are a number of names that i want to put out there. I think we'll be associated with this head. Coaching job in philadelphia. Now that's available. It's a very attractive job. Even if you consider the quarterback situation and the injuries on the offensive line is great. Great towel to coach first foremost brian day ball. Now listen the. Oc of the buffalo bills is also a bob. La motte client remember how he roseman. In doug peterson both bob loma clients. But i'm hearing that day. Ball has serious interest with the new york jets and with the la chargers todd bowles interviewing with atlanta and detroit. From temple used to coach here. He will definitely be somebody whose name could be associated with this team going forward. Mike kafka don't forget. It's the andy. Reid coaching tree. Jeffrey loria still very very close to andy reid. Mike kafka the quarterbacks coach. And don't forget about eric be enemy. He will definitely get consideration. Duce staley on the staff and very high undo staley but also. What'd you think outside the box. What about lincoln. Riley who coached jalen hurts to great acclaim at oklahoma so there are a lot of different ways that they could go but make no mistake about it. This is an attractive job. No matter what they decide to do with carson wentz going forward and the lincoln riley note is really interesting. of course he was tied to that cowboys. Opening mike mccarthy ends up being the guy there. Thanks so much sal paolantonio all the latest on the philadelphia eagles situation and one of the names there dan itself throughout todd bowles. He's a defensive guy. It feels to me like even though that's an interesting name for me if we if we talk about what the eagles are gonna do here. It's going to be an offensive guy who can make things right for carson wentz. It does not have to be an offensive guy. It has to be someone who we. We've heard adam schefter say like. What is the ambitious vision. Now if it is a todd. Bowles robert sala. Who are you bringing with you as offense coordinator. That's the big question if it is an offensive guy great but the question is who's your defensive coordinator but if you're going to sign the defensive guy a guy like todd robert sola you have to figure out who the offense coordinator does he love carson wentz. It's not does he think he carson wentz's does he love carson wentz because this decision was made because they've got the money invested into eleven. Okay so whatever coach comes. There has to inherently love the quarterback and think he could be an absolute superstar again does not have to be an offensive minded guy. It has to be somebody that is bringing somebody who's an offensive minded person with them. The last thing i'd say is this. You better hire somebody. That is specific to the quarterback as a coach sp- positionally. they've got to fix the mechanics of carson wentz fixed a mental makeup of carson wentz. You've got to get somebody in your building that knows quarterbacks. That's the bottom line. There's what will they do in. What should they do because what. Dan said about being a coach whether it's offensive or defensive. Who has confidence in carson wentz. I think that's what they will do. That's clearly the fallout from firing of. Doug peterson the money involved. Now i'm gonna say what i think they should do. Which is i think they should bring. In a coach who's welcome to a competition between carson wentz in jalen hurts jalen hurts. Outplayed carson wentz. This season saul known to is now. I'm not saying. He outplayed them to the extent where he should absolutely be the day one starter but if it was me i would want a legitimate competition. Marc spears. i just don't know what the message is. Man like i understand what both of y'all are saying. obviously league carson. Wentz had to come to mind in this decision. Making you got what mean just say it with jalen hurts flying the i think the best path forward is what you said no meena like the conversations we had about carson wentz mental makeup his attitude towards the end of the season. It needs to be an open competition because you need the scene carson wentz level up this is about i keep screaming it. Its competition competition. Competition and peterson aside. Carson wentz has to decide. I'm going to not only return to form. But i'm gonna close the door on anybody else that's trying to take this spot. That's really what that's phillies. future like. say it's a tough city. No doubt into all these points jalen hurts is done more than earn absolute operatives least continue to compete for that job news around the league. Get too busy monday. Adam schefter what is going on in texas sticky right now with the shawn watson and houston. Laura he is not pleased with the way the organization and old the general manager hiring processes no objections to the particular individual nick caserio. They got the job. The organization went to him for input. He provided the input and the organization didn't act on his input nor input from the search firm hired and waiting caserio on. Its own with the kalmyk near decision. And now there's some speculation about whether watson could ask to be traded whether he can withhold his services and not show up to the bottom line is messy and sticky and tricky and dan. Quinn the former falcons coach flew to dallas today for his interview for the cowboys. Defensive coordinator job in a job that most people around the league expect him to gay. Quinn looks like he's going to be the dallas cowboys. Defensive coordinator supposed to work out a contract but it looks like he will be the one that will replace the fired. Mike nolan adam. Marcus fears doesn't like it. Unfortunately today we're so busy we don't have more time to react to it but anyway. Thanks to chef t for that. The other disgust on been rothlisburger face. Last night was hard to ignore. And i'm not really sure what else your face should be doing. If you were on the steelers side of that loss to the browns the steelers suffering. What really was from the gecko despite. They did make an interesting comeback. Big vince than this. After the game. I need to apologize to for for tonight and the rest of my team mates for the way i played. I don't have any magical answers. It just You know we. We didn't put together. Like i said tonight me. That's the blaring issue is returned. Turn the ball all aware thanh. This can't happen. You know your left on my contract though. I hope the steelers want me back. If if that's the way we go and They'll be a lot of discussions but but now's the time for that. It's kind of shocking. Even hear him talk that way. What did you make bins tone there. Dan a emotion says a lot to me. The reality is. You can't have big ben back next year at the amount of money that you owe him and have a good football team. Those things cannot happen next season for pittsburgh. One of them is going to have to give and at the end of the day. Big ben himself coming back. Make you great. This is a good football team. This year he will be one year older. Their philosophy is going to have to change. They're going to have to change the style of football that they play also. They have a lot of other guys on their football team. That need to come back for them to be a contending team and then the reality is this. Don't get left behind. I know it's a tough decision. We got two teams in your division right now. that are starting to sprint away from you. Cleveland and baltimore both with young quarterbacks at some point that organizations can have to sit there and go. You know what we love you. We're thankful for what you gave us. But we kick get left behind and we have to make a move. I think that the steelers is going to be forced to make that decision. And they're gonna go big. Ben thank you but it's time for us to move forward. You can get left behind real quick in this league adam. You heard dan mentioning. How much money is owed to. Ben where do the steelers stand financially going forward. It clear. it's forty six point one million dollars against the cap. It's the single largest cap charge of any player in the league for next season. It as dan mentioned. They're not gonna let that number stand. The question is what do they do about the number. And what did they do about the player now. The player as of a couple of weeks ago intended to come back and play but maybe last night spooked him haunted him and it makes them reconsider. There are a lot of players they get to the end of the year. And when that final game ends. I think a lot of people ready to walk away from the game and they take some time off. They decompress they evaluate the situation and they come to a conclusion about what they wanna do. I think ben rothlisberger few weeks ago again wanted to play and it's hard to imagine this team at one point. Time was eleven. Oh and making a run at the seventy two dolphins and now we're talking about what went wrong ben rothlisberger whether he'll be back all the issues at the steelers have to face in front a lot of issues in pittsburgh. This offseason the question that the steelers face here isn't simply. Do we cut ben and move on. It's are we willing to take that cap hit. Because if they do cut him it's gonna cost them not forty one million dollars but a little over twenty million and all they save some money that they can spend on some of the free agency alluded to dan. There's bunch by the way who are up. Juju smith schuster james conner. You're listening here. But depre- i mean those are some big names and if they caught him they could pay some of these guys. But it's a tough the bait because in my mind pittsburgh no matter what they do even if they keep ben. They got draft quarterback. It's a mistake. Frankly i think they made this season not planning for the future. But they're going to have to regardless so then it becomes okay. Do we draft a quarterback and wipe the slate clean. Start over. take the hit and move on or do we give ben one more year restructure the contract and maybe have him mentor. The young quarterback i lean towards the former and the fresh start but i can see both sides. Yes unfortunately the some crazy. It's unfortunate that they won eleven games this year because they not in position. They're not in position. They're doing draft like the draft age. Even the draft pick is not gonna be enticing to a lot of teams in order to get the quarterback. Ben done you like and not from a physical standpoint. not from the fact that he. He is not in a position to be insulated by his team. In kind of what you alluded to. I saw pai man who couldn't throw probably forty five yards. Go win a super bowl. Demarcus ware mill owner. I didn't drew brees. Everything around him is elite. When you start thinking about playmakers. Tom brady right in tampa. He's insulated once. They got that thing going now. We see in all of their talent bar. Pittsburg can't do that. They not in position a suitable. Seventy time known. Ask him to carry too much. Didn't even want to do that. You're right they can't they. Don't have the positioning to do it. Mega casting all over the place. We're gonna mega cast tonight to said we're start off with us for alabama ohio state this crew. I cannot realize the shade you gave just the doubt he was just shocked you guys. I didn't realize how awkward. I look every time i turn my chair to the camera but you lot of things happen. You just like the turning chair all right anyway that game yesterday. With lamar jackson feeding the titans was huge. He silence critics picked up his first career. Playoff win beating. The titans on sunday and this was huge. Getting that first win was only part of the narrative. Changing performance for jackson earned the first career win. He didn't just it right. He earned it by double digits when he was trailing by double digits so he posted an eighty four point six total. Qbr after earning the game with the lowest playoff total qbr since we began tracking that metric in two thousand six. Well he did plenty with his legs on sunday. He also showed he could get with his arm completing seventy five percent of his passes for a hundred and fifty five yards after the first quarter and man. Oh man it was fun to watch a run when he did that. Guy 's awesome. And i think one of the things about lamar jackson that does not get enough credit. You know this is how smart is like. The football athletic intelligent said he has. That's what we talk about. We stopped lamar for one quarter. We stopped them for two quarters. You look up in the third quarter. He got one fifty two touchdown play mean at. What did you think changed the second half for the ravens as they started to take over the game. Well laura the biggest surprise of the first half to me was the play of the titans defensive line. We spent the entire week criticizing. I definitely did and all first. Half those defensive ends and outside linebackers they were on the edge i mean all the things that the raves of doing so well over the last few weeks zone read the off tackle runs counter. It wasn't working in the first half so what at gregg roman do on the first drive of the second half he said. Hey did anybody or beef again. Pull back in the nfl. Patrick yonder pounds three ten and on the field on that drive. Every single snap mark jackson through to him three times. Because what do you do if the defensive line. That's the edge hard like you. Punish them by throwing into the flat after they did that. The titans had to respect that and suddenly the outsides opened up the runs. Were there all thanks to a very smart counterpunch by gregg roman. Let's get back to our breaking news that we started the show off with day. Doug peterson out in philly and just moments ago. Jeffrey loria speaking to the media about this decision of course the owner of the team. Let's hear what lorie had to say about this My first allegiances. What will be best for the philadelphia. Eagles are fans for the next three four five years It's not based on. Does someone deserve to hold their job or deserve to get fired. That's a different bar. Very few people probably after success deserve to lose their job. Look at this from malcolm jenkins just a few minutes ago. He said do staley next man up. Every time he stood in front of the team he had the attention respect of everyone in the room the embodiment of what it means to be an eagle in a coach. I'm good where i'm at. Ll but in another lifetime. I'd love to play for him. We heard do. Staley's named mentioned as well by paolantonio earlier in the show. What do you think about that and hearing from laurie. There malcolm jenkins knows that city as well as anybody and he brings a good point like you better have the life blood of those people once you got him. It's an amazing place to be. But you gotta be like speaks to that idea. He lost the locker room. Yeah man all right. We'll be back right here on. Espn two in two hours. Getting ready for the college championship was known.

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S1E12: The Empire Has to Crumble! Repectfully The End is Near New England Patriots | Doug Peterson - The Best Coach in the NFL

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S1E12: The Empire Has to Crumble! Repectfully The End is Near New England Patriots | Doug Peterson - The Best Coach in the NFL

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Aw be involved in quantity everybody everybody. It's all a part of the season giving. It's a seven day celebration. Let's get down with them. Disciplines park has got more radio really important. It's really important. Let's talk some Sports Eagles. NFL Doug Peterson Carson wentz disappear names. I just wanted to out there because Doug Peterson is probably the most unappreciated coots in the. NFL has down. Everybody talks about the coaches of the NFL. Who's who who's coaching again? It's always like you know you know I always envied or Bella check or It's always you know the kid out is always someone else Har Har Har Ball is going to get a a strong. Look no Sean Sean taken from the saints. All great coaches no. I'm not taking anything from these guys. Doug Peterson is not in to swing kings over the last two seasons nine into with a super bowl win under his belt. This season with over nine injuries to starting players nine major injuries meaning out for the season two starting players starting players this team valley that won their last four games. Every gain was a must win this season and he did it with a different gas. He didn't do it with ASTA on Jeffrey. He didn't do wit Nelson Aguilar. You know what I'm saying. He didn't do it with Jordan. He lost a lot of these guys Brandon Brooks and all of a sudden. You've got guys like Boston. Scott Bosses Scott Practice Squad Die Maus Sanders Dallas got her. It probably is. Aw is finally showing up practice guy player Josh Perkins who who's like a tight end slash receiver. He's like a hybrid. Thank God I never heard of the taper necked Robert Davis. I know everybody I everybody the I'm trying to I. Aw even the USC Bro. He wasn't even start at USC. I'm telling he wasn't Robbi Davis. He went to Georgia state. I will be lying to everybody. I hear if I told everyone that I watched a ton of Georgia state football. I'm not talking Georgia Georgia. I'm talking Georgia state. The big difference. What team gene is red? Black and white. The other team is I is I. Blue and gray is blue gray and white two different squads Georgia State University Georgia to Thirteenth Seventeenth watches out of Georgia reveller Georgia state. But I know that Robert Davis when out there the ball so you gotta give Doug Peterson credit for rallying his troops again for the third consecutive year the Furka second the third consecutive year. He's he's he's done this. He has pulled this trickle back to back. NFC East champions. You can say how ever you want to slice it. The Eagles have found a way to make this work. Doug Peterson has found the way to make it work every year. When his back is against the ball he he finds a way? You can't understand what he's only played the giants twice and he played a terrible breath a Washington team. And then you know Dallas. No you know you know the back I get up. We get all those things. But you still have to go impeded games and guess what over that period of time question with the best quarterback in football and I've been critical across them with all year long. I've living very critical but guess what do y'all Carson has learned how to up with the players around him in his different Geoffrey avalon. Those guys aren't really Carson Gods. They're not they're fold guys. I said this earlier in the season I sit individually Carson Wentz. It's going to have to get his own set of guys. He needs to get his own crew. Now we fought. The Jeffrey Agla was is going to be long term guys. We thought that the Song Jackson was going to be a nice two to three year guy. But you know what Jackson Body's breaking down you know Agla Agla. He goes all of this confidence and pretty much. Just checked out and in Jeffrey he's checked out and his body is just is just collapsed supposed to be cautious guys on all these guys either one a super bowl of or at one time of their career play. Nick foles Ads Showing Jackson so these these are technically not necessarily Carson. God's these foles guys these are Nikki's boys Carson with these new cates guys like Josh Perkins and Greg War who's been phenomenal nominee. I mean what hasn't been making a big place but with Greg work has been he's been a competently seaver. He's making the plays days that you need to make one third down thirty seven thirty eight thirty four. He's been that way and he has has made some big plays. I take that. He has made some game changing place like the play against Washington. So you know what I mean so these guys. These young guys won a hungry because our practice quiet squad kids Perkins Brunette Davis Ward Off. These kids Boston Scott the running back these guys are practice squad kids bordering on Mba. I coming in adult kids. These guys are going all out because this is their big sacked. This is the opportunity to to to prove ooh that they belong in the League and then playing for Carson and when God believe in their quarterback Gaza go out and try to make plays. And that's what these kids are doing. The cost of these scanning and Carson has took these young these younger fevers and made them his own. And that's what makes the eagles a dangerous team. Come Sunday has made. This team is on team. This is Carson's person's team not the guys that we thought in the beginning of season all the Gaza. We thought this is his team. Doug Peterson and do need some. And listen and you need sometimes games against teams like New York in Washington to build that the bill that coffins offense to build that commodity to win those games even though those teams are not good. You got us. Do Rep those games. You gotta go through the motions you you gotta go through the adversity. You Got Abuna Phil and build that chemistry like those things are such a necessity unless we're crossen. Listen wasn't Giddy with the other guy because one they weren't practicing they will always hurt and they were always complaining about how crossing wasn't getting. He wasn't funding. We're making place and I'm trying to say Carson was throwing darts all over. Yeah I mean he actually through some of the other game against New York what he but the difference between breath cautioned Vince and Carson now is that when Carson doesn't make a play it does not feel like the end of the world it does third and seven does is not feel like it's an impossible if you if you were incompletion on I now. It doesn't seem like the drive is over because now you have people that ah able to mimic plays in. Give some more credit to Doug Peterson and Dave. I say officer Canadian growth because they have turned the eagles into one of the best screening teams in the NFL. If not with Mal Sanders and in Boston Scott and data's got it the titans screens to garter hurt Scott and Sanders under screen game has been our biggest weapon weapon. Making the game simpler precaution. I'm not saying going. They dumped they dumped it down for what what what they did was. They started playing to our strengths. They started realizing that we had guys that can make plays in open field in terms of standards offensive line that can get to the first and second level quickly. Why aren't we running war screens and takes the pressure up across and that I play makers and nuts the rescue guys make as many places possible? That's what the Eagles have done. That's how you win. And sometimes you need some patsies in there to build that confidence flits over the last four weeks Carson Winston the best quarterback in the NFL has now. And that's statistically typically. I think his quarterback rating of one eighteen one fourteen Cupola agonize so I knows the highest the highest so we're getting to the point where so in Carson Wentz last four games. Let me just break this down. Yes seven touchdowns known substance. He's completing over seventy percent of his passes and yes Yes over he has just he has just around twelve hundred just under twelve love hundred yards his quarterback in that in that period of time is. I'm sorry it's one zero. ooh like one four so not so not one. Fourteen doesn't matter it doesn't matter he's still very good. I like. That's very very good. Seven touchdowns known exceptions almost yards. Four wins all must all must wins against divisional divisional rivals. So we go into the playoffs. Break those down in a second. But when we think about the best coaches in the league this is about. Doug Peterson my hint to me. When when we think about the ballot checks and some of the world and the harbor any we think about all these coaches we never talk about? Doug Peterson and being the elites. He's clearly clearly clearly clearly when the coaches in the NFL if not visionary coaching UNIFIL based on hand that he's been dope over the last three Seasons in the midst of all that Super Bowl I mean I mean listen. I got respect for Pekao SPEC for audio the coaches the bottom line is doug is just as good if not better than all of them. I mean W- It was time for him. The Golden Ginsburg head to head in the Super Bowl beat him so I so you gotTa give the Eagles another pat on the back this year. They did not quick and they usually could acquit this year. This team was better. Kim begging again attacked him. Pick but you know what the difference is is that they care and when they start Karen and they start showing me as they really we care star again and as a fan and as one who loves US team. That's all you can ask for. Is Your team cares. That's coats care. Is that your quarterback cares. Is that the prayers deepest that they cared. Guys like Malcolm Jenkins Brandon Graham. Cops those guys care saying those guys those guys do brand he cares vinnie curvy cares. Young corners is actually stepped. Up a bit Goss. Sidney Jones is playing better. Look Block is one of the more underway and players in one this team. I mean so. These guys have a lot of pride. This team does have a playoff pedigree. Dow Peterson Peterson is one of the best leaders of men in the NFL. If not the best. It's not the best tom but Doug Peterson especially if he comported game off against Seattle gives me as one of the best in the NFL. This pocket got word radio. If you go wait wait. Wait around people standing building coming up next break down the playoffs all the games over the weekend while car week. This podcast guk were radio. 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Jj Watt is coming back saying so. That's huge for the Texans. I mean I. It's just there's no way to save that wasp presence just from an emotional standpoint would not impact this game in my opinion so I just think watts presence on just knowledge of of of just knowledge of being on appeal understanding protections and schemes. The other teams are trying to do. It can only booster a Texas defense. Who has been a little as of late? I mean the Texans have not been as efficient as one like the you know the loss to the titans going into the final game. So you know it wasn't a must wins. I think they you know they. I think it Kinda you know. I'm not saying they took it. I'm pretty sure they want to win. Outright I mean they had the visit to lock them but the bottom line here. Is that the Texans over the last couple of weeks. They haven't looked strong. Wonderful like they went to tune. LS Four Games. One loss coming to the Broncos at home so you've got to think about but the beauty of the Texans is that they do have to watch and they have an and and in Watson his own if you really look at Washington I can only remember being blown out once and if it's in his entire career career I've never seen watch him like the only time in his entire career. Even at Clemson or with the Texans and destroy as a quarterback is when he played against the March Jackson this season but when they lost forty one. That's the only time that I can be member. Disown Watson not being an efficient quarterback but just so you know Watson had the mazing season this year at one time of the year he was considered an MVP candidate kind of died down from that. Because the MARLINS assistant so incredible will get to that in a second as well. But you know I sixteen. TV's trump touchdowns he has a QBR of oral of almost seventy which is which is way above the average. I think is I think he's in a top top. He's in the top ten. QBR In his quarterback rating is by very a solid. He's also has no the Hopkins in we'll and we'll hover there. So he has all the tools fools he needs he needs a running game. He knees Duke Johnson. To in my opinion to step he needs to step up. He needs that solid running game. Those two guys are going to have to be able to run the ball at least a little bit on on Buffalo. The problem is that the buffalo you know. Give up the rummy that one the best teams against the run DOC Buffalo's one of the best teams against the run so I mean their third overall and defense and against the run against the buffalo ranks They rank about ninth so ninth overall. I mean at third overall and defense and ninth overall against him and so like the bills are very stout team. Defensively Sophy the fact that you have to go to go to Houston and paying that on that field. I don't think Houston's home advantage is that big of a factor because they play indoors in. That dome is comfortable. The thing is is that before watching is extremely special quarterback they have a primo weapon in the Andrea Hop in Hopkins in. This really has to be a year when the Texans can get out the first round around. I think the only tuna last two seasons in the first round so it is really time for them to make that next step for even for Watkins Walk Ins Watkins to make the next now on the flip side. You have Josh Allen First Time in the playoffs and listen. I know there was a lot of knocks Josh coming out of the draft and I was critical. I didn't think Josh is going to be as good. He's been how about that. I'm going to be fair I. I don't think Josh was going to be. I didn't think Josh is going to be as good as he's been but in his defense he's been very solid even a very solid quarterback one one that a team rally around. He's a playmaker and he can make plays that a lot of players. Just can't make that's awesome. I'm just being rich. Josh Allen can do things that some guys just can't do way he can throw the ball the way he the way he he can run the ball the way he tried to push the ball down. The field and Josh Allens job is pretty much as you know. It's the kind of keep the game coast like you know. Give us a chance to win. It is not. It's the. It's the pain a mistake. Free football this year. He had. I mean. Think about twenty touchdowns and non substance that nine sections is key for Josh. The non interceptions. Keep him he's an internal in in total. QBR He's only ranked twenty fourth life. So he's he's. He's also twenty four in quarterback things so if you go to their advanced metrics for Josh Allen and you will see is not that great of a quarterback but but he can make the kind of place that can break your back you have to acquitted court because the game because boom you would try to sack him he ripped he breaks a tackle semi yards the balls. In the Air Bank touchdown it works just like that. And that's the kind of guy is so basically what what what the Texans have to do is make Josh Allen playoff a four game of quarterback keep them in a pocket making read the defense make him make tough does keep him in. Don't let him run outside. Don't let him outside the pocket. If the Texans can do that initial Shawn Watson can get rhythm with Hopkins. I I really do like the Texans here. Okay the next game we have in the AFC unfamiliar the the patch shoots the number three seed against the titans now under me if they could get the patriots in the wildcard. Oh clock round the never always have I always in the the number one seed well this year. Lamar Jackson has taken over the number concede. The number two is anybody McCain's impractical homes so brady this year got has to. He's going to if he's going to be back back people champion if he's going to pay if he's going to get that seven ring he has to do it. The highway. He has to win an extra game. In foxboro borough is the titans wonder how to teams in the NFL and Dirk is one of the hottest players in the NFL creeps kimmy every wound up leading the NFL rushing. He had over two hundred yards in his final game of the year against the Texans that I just talked about and guess who else is hot. What Channel Hills rose? Hi why Tanner Hills hot since Ryan Tannehill has been inserted at the starting quarterback of the Tennessee. Titans he is he has the highest quarterback rating in the NFL. I think in that occurred in week seven. We took over for Mariota in to the hill. Was this a so-so prospect in Miami. Of course he was drafted one but he never believed to hike and now he's making plays all over the feel you have the running game with Hillary and you have ten of helping the house level. You have the titans look like a real contender. They are of real threat to the Patriots in Foxborough be because the Patriots are still struggling to muster up offense and the titans play cold weather. Football won the ball tight defiant. Don't give big plays. That's what the titans do. I'm picking upset right here. The king the king the CIA eventually got to go down the Patriots eventually. Sweet half the crumble. The Empire has to crumble. Just took survival has Scott walking. We gotTA Crust Trust Empire once and for all its Tomlin crushes empire once and for all so the Patriots to me a right upset right now against the titans the titans have the form that got the pieces in place to pull off oft upset. They run the ball and have the regular fishing quarterback in the Patriots. Kit Muster up offense who auto pay makers. I'm the sunset. I don't know what's new and I know. Now where are the Patriots playmakers. In my in my opinion I just don't see where they are. I know so and Tom. Tom Brady for all of his great skills. You can tell in his knowledge you can tell that the end is near. We don't gotTA fake it. It's cool to be real child. I'm pretty sure he's going to prove everybody wrong but eventually father. Ah Tom Catches up with everyone. It's time it's time man. It's no secret that the Pacers in this position because they weren't good enough. They lost to the dolphins last week. It was a must win game. It was a must-win game. For New England. New England had to win that game the first round by and they could not do it. They just couldn't do it. They did not have the talent they they just couldn't do it this. Listen the titans if they don't get if they if they go in their focus with the game playing if they won the police can run the ball and can play action off the run and finally young young receivers in the past passing game and if they really they can put up twenty four points they GonNa Win The first twenty four Wednesday game title import off Sunday. NFC Sunday I gain got the saint invites to teen who over the last has three years. WanNa be both teams one young both teams. They should beat us the vikings gear here before the Saints Peter Slash here but even still. They didn't make proteins. Think they got the rights to thrown in. The states may have a point here. You know the Vikings from a talent perspective effective are just as good as the saints. I mean this is. These are two evenly matched teams. There are two don't teams so the weather was not going is is is really to me if you break these squats down. It comes down to the quarterbacks who do you trust the most. What coach do you trust the moat like? Do you really trust kirk cousins. Outdo Ju- Breeze I. I think that's the deal here. I think there's no way else to break. The dummy defenses are almost the same. The the the the the weaponry you talk about cooks and Chimera and you talk about you know You you're talking about the The Saints receiving core compared to the Vikings. I mean they're all similar there are there are similar. They got weapons. Both teamed up but then when you look at the quarterback in breeze in cousins who who do you trust gotta go over breeze here I just I just feel as though I just feel as though the saints while the Vikings have also been knocking at the door. They had their chance last last week to win the division and get a home game. Put the packers in this position to be playing this game and off. They lost the game. They had the game won last week. They did they did in a I disliked Aaron Rogers come back and pull that game out of there at two weeks ago. I'm sorry about that two weeks ago. That was a game that they had to win any day now. So in my opinion of the Vikings Vikings are team that are still searching for that right quarterback to take that that that defeats in all their offensive weapons to the next level kirk cousins Nagai. And maybe a and if he is he's just not good enough to beat this saints team. Ah and why are we talking about the saint. While we're on the saints isn't isn't it about time I mean the MPP that no one talks about is Michael Thomas. He's shooting. MVP that no-one discusses. I mean he had a phenomenal phenomenal year. That's that's that's all give Michael Thomas a south because he he broke a hundred and fifty balls one hundred and forty nine percent go aliens so he he He actually a hundred and forty nine balls for seventeen hundred yards over seventeen hundred yards. He broke a fifteen year old record. ACKER South Michael Thomas so I mean I just think the saints are just more constructive. They're better the better battle-tested they they are thirteen and win team clean and wildcard round. I'm pretty sure that pisses them off. And I just think that Sean Payton has been preparing his team for this moment ever since they got jobbed last year in the playoffs against the rams with that blatant pass interference. This is this. Is there now time things might even be my darkhorse work. WHOA I four? The Super Bowl by getting a might get into that yet. As long as my boys is in the game and we gotta break on the final one between the seahawks and the birds and the intangibles here are just perfect. Putting the Eagles you have a West Coast Team Traveling East Coast the playoff game in a game. That should be you know a little bit a little bit chilly. The outside if not I'm gonNA check the weather in this game and I'm GonNa Check your right now while it's on in poverty and let's let's check the weather for this game for this. Eagles Gain Eagles Gang AC- well let's see what we got here on them off on that. No civil off Lincoln. This is well. This one Tom. Mount Aries Ans- dance when the weather pop up our tech but the goggles to that fact. The bottom line is an outdoor game. We were sitting. Bob Bother Seattle much coach. Okay Sunday the weather's going to be forty one so it's not going to be cold but around game Tom. We're talking about thirty. Three degrees is going to be in that while that eagles fans are going to be crazy and the one thing. THAT SEATTLE'S IS GONNA found out this time can printed last time if they're going to be facing a confident Carson Wentz. They're going to be facing a giggles team. That believes that they can win this game. Not Coming off tough losses against Dallas that bull off loss of Dallas and then two weeks after that that embarrassing loss awesome against a again against the Patriots. This is going to be a confident. Eagles team after winning four consecutive games to you know to overcome yeah now Seattle is not front loaded team. They have all the components. What's Wilson I mean? Really if it wasn't for the Mark Jackson just kind of like Saturday all all kinds of records in terms of production and quarterback Ray Ray rating and QBR and Russian stats in and touchdown passes and all kinds of stuff like that. If it wasn't for that what's a Wilson probably will be the MVP. Probably it'd be. Will it be tied right of course but he Mike Russell Wilson is still the best general in the NFL. Him and drew brees. Brady's on some other shit. We've talked Brady's Jordan you don't WanNa call me. He's all he's older now. He's regal if another shit. But so you don't worry about in terms turns of Modern Day generals and you WanNa talk about somebody who's like under the age of forty you know what's the worst thing is that good he has more fourth quarter comebacks. That's more than more fourth quarter comebacks than any quarterbacks since two thousand twelve twenty eight twenty eight joints don't West Seattle. The beauty of that team is that will Russell Wilson. You know matter to be gone to the score. They never believe they added a game and even last week when they were being dominated by said friend for two and a half quarters they still came the inches. Just WanNa make a game team a quarterback who had the uplift guys around him. You know this mode on the team again. They got so many injuries everything so we look at this from a perspective. Seattle are loaded from a team mm perspective and peak. How as a phenomenal coach but no coach as I said earlier in the show know coach the more proficient over the last two seasons and have been more resilient than Doug Peterson ducks turf? You traveling three thousand miles and probably probably the most hostile on in in the most style stadium in Seattle. They do not want to come back to Philly. The first time they want here a month ago I was actually made just a bobber gang was it was cold. It was great. I mean I'm listening. Greatest Seattle weekly can adjust well. But it's just different in Philly. Louis the smell. Is this different the animosity that hatred is different. The place in the country trust. They do not want to eat here this week and they hear you know cloud I mean but for Matana standpoint EXCU auto release of windows game. But I'm just saying that this is a such different eagle team in from a confidence standpoint. I really think it's a fifty fifty fifty game. I really believe it's a fifty fifty game. The point spread is even saying as much because Seattle's only favored by point and now way more talented way. More talented than US came back have could win. Rookie of the year like a Mile Sanders fighting for rookie of the year. I mean not tax some type in this game but throughout the course of the year Santa's came out. Strong mccafe has been consistent all year. So here's the deal. The trick is not letting Russell Wilson Win Games on third down. Aw that's where. The Eagles defense must win. The Eagles Defense gotTa Win Their Fair share on third down they need to keep Seattle Onder. Twenty four points at twenty four is key because twenty four the key point twenty four points is very key and in the playoffs once you start hitting on twenty four to twenty twenty eight point nope number in the playoffs. Your team should win because defense should prevail and some some semblance so you see here. Is the key Seattle within that twenty. Four seventeen to twenty four reigns. Eagles will have a chance to think. While Seattle's Seattle's defense is very talented. They they over pursuit and we owe and when you over pursue you can get caught on. Screens draws draws a misdirection plays plays that perfectly for guys like a Mile Sanders often Often a ball by Boston. Scott Greg Ward those kind of plays and don't be surprised to not be surprised if Greg Ward those past this week disciplines pockets radio go way way way behind with small people standing building. I'm picking Eagles. 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Ataman had a man happy new year. y'All these building does so mad. Two Thousand Nineteen was into humble opinion was a pretty decent year for it was it was it was I because in the beginning of year started off with you know just to set it off with just a pack cow Bruna joint. I don't know what I'm saying with the pack cow Brunen drink was like let the term exactly tactile Thurman and we say well while we say We we say while while before Wa Brazil. While the Brazil's which which in my home humble opinion was was the knock out of the year. No no no. What's his name? He goes come to me. I'm tripping mayweather God. Meanwhile the Guy coups Whitney tournament that got knocked out to beatty to beatings got knocked off. I'm assuming to come to TD. We we got knocked out cold. I forgot we got the beat the burden today. Bss The tournament he got. Oh and the Not the talking about the The junior welterweight doing nutty guy they got to the crew at right right but what happened with the the crew thwaite drink. This'll hold Dan guy became. Don't have that brand is brand. He got knocked out cold though. But I imagine with while the one we we had We were J rat. We identify early early. Okay yeah so so so we have heard. Oh listen how can you get about Joshua's number where it'll give June. I put it like that like that was the biggest upset of a the decade kind of close. But I understand what you're saying. I mean if you look at the ads for that fight it was like thirty one. I think we're supposed to be upset. Pseudo which was sleater Loma Shinko. Okay so the only say I'm not I get your point. August twenty. Nobody chance and one chance to how it's the Ledo came in five pounds overweight where he played the system. And you know Loma Moma. You can't even five pounds a week and fighting the second fight second or third fight as a pro. You know what I'm saying so whereas in this fight year where Joshua we. He was a late substitute. They saw big pointed out. Big Kazak. Hit Houston did you steal. Hey go here he might be to Hukou Hukou bag lose a year. You gotta think about roll. My Gosh we make six seven and the first fight thirteen in in the second best twenty million Twenty Mayor Big Baby Twenty Mehnaz leisure twenty million easily go. Let's get ten year but why Jiu Stone you get not getting knocked out with juicing console autozone to give them a fast what he do. He's he's been juiced kickboxing before. You know what I'm saying. We'll talk about that job Cheetah but once about Cheetahs the whole point is he he the backlash backlash she did Abe even in defeat against Joshua if he had had a decent shuttled. Exactly Saudi Arabia. Could they quicksilver they had. They had They have Easy Joe's those apartment over there do easy had him in a ring with him back in Michael Hunter you six art like autos gone army army fights and Miller could have been right in the mix of all that and you know. He does blue as he says he disowned. Dame bringing back though down Rigoberta Menchu window who now bring brothers back from cheeto like they take a while from the comeback think about it willing Monroe Inc will wonderful women though I mean I actually I just I just saw his name okay around and maybe a smaller okay I think cutting PBC dropped him. I could be wrong. PVC got jobs over it over. I follow me on twitter. He was looking for a fight. I think we probably fiery tweeted out by tweeting right buggy. I know we're looking for a fight which you don't bring us back which he does that. Quick it does it will come back. Defense though are so another. Huge fight was the spent supporter fight. Just a good fight. GREAT-GREAT-GREAT GREG fight greatly fi candidate Kennedy. An in in a in a spence solidified himself with the with the Mikey. mikey fide early. I know well between between Mikey fighting Puerto Fight I mean he's identified himself as the PC star this year but at the end I mean if he if the accident never occurred. He's he started PLA. Uh No no nothing is earl but you got Tanka Tanka start art getting the people not in the take one win away from being a superstar but I get you for earls Likable Guy I get your point he was GonNa Long Guy Okay. So don't you know house zone has Nello triple j top through exactly that like he was going to be in Eh type he was gonNA need. It was going to be wilders spence and let's say in don't don't sleep on what's thinks he got that Fox people people are talking about though Kayla plane intimacy. Nobody's GonNa pump them up back. He's going to get that Fox. Treat me you see you see you see he on Fox Wchs in Toronto Zone showtime devante on showtime. That's floyd on a date. Flu Being Luis Espinosa. Well well. Okay okay. So let's talk about that a bit because man for a man right Espinosa they got the nut. Like what they're trying to do is MIT mitigate geico relationship between Fox and showtime because. They don't want facts so tom don't want to take on the talent And they've vallery pretty much taken wilder xactly but with this what I would do see snow song. Do Right on the job over this need to do right. hyg As we had a lot right he took all the scraps graphs and made some begging ads. Gumbo by the guy. Do they gotta get okay if I if I were on showtime okay I got Gary Russell Got Bronner. If if you give me tank you gave me one child. Oh I got you let me know working with you can make a lot of fighters if if you tell me if you give me the budgets of millions and I got these fighters and I can make it work there so we can make it worse you can make the fights like the is to me. Danny we got you know this. This is a really bad year for him. He fights for once and his next fight is against. Yeah no one but I think he was promised son I think he promised PETCO right. He was promised cow seat thing about I think pack or Smith because they get like this. He's in fighting the South Pole. Earl Smith me pack softball and he'd give me philosophical so why don't you think Apac cow the pack cow. Oh God Sia didn't go go down as of yet I mean like like why wasn't that define for February because mommy is a wave boy. No debt and I think is because member earl and Danny's would have been January twenty six point five something like that so maybe many wasn't ready for the week. My Gosh on political things over Philippines but no they say meaning twice issue so we can see how they go they say Mikey or ordained well. I'm thinking I'm thinking it'll be most likely Dan because Mike Mike he fighting. What February or March Mike Mike? You find a march he find. That's a march through June date. I think made him in June so I can see Danny no man. I don't know man because like you said. PVC They suffered under under my whole thing with Danny is that You know he for Granados last year in one set out the whole entire year Up The BAT influence I understand. Aw I understand you know Bob Arum has been pretty much begging the PBC. perserve Danny up to Crawford and they can turn the fight down from what I heard what I heard. Last year they They send Danny three million dollars offer. I heard was I heard was more than that. I was like five. I see not a three Conga five and it's I talked commonsense Kinda get five me from. I often think about it. We alibaba any her at her. The first time the first phone call he got five me know Eddie negotiated by I. Don't think Dana Negotiate whom three to five the seven so you can't you can't negotiate. You can't get the fight if you will negotiate right fucking concert go. She ate it. You didn't go. She hit it right on the same day Crawford foot kind but I blame blame. Blame me Danny. But don't say off between negotiate right exactly exactly if you want to fight negociate defy. I want this fight. Let's make this because you can't because you can't tell me he got three minutes Granados. No you can't tell me I don't care what you say. How much back in a symptom? How much spurs? Dave is getting a million dollars for these kind of got to be generous. So you think how somebody else in the but I mean I'll check company. Could we here to get back in money. And that's my whole thing. You know a Asian new interview. He say he wants me now. If I Crawford I mean you want right exactly. That's not like our listeners. Hypothetically they gave him Tim Lee right and they get five million higher making money back on the car. You're not meet with Pakistan. Pay Per view for that to work would have had to be somewhere enough. Five to six hundred thousand author. Man I think it I- thousand I think the debt can that could define thousand and guaranteed guaranteed guaranteed. Five million a piece. Get back in my on the hot at work you know do it you could sell you could sell up because they got the amateur lull. I guess a fight to me. I don't know why Danny whitten take. I mean I mean to me a loss pack Gal lost Crawford so much better than it lost a man no is not now. His eyes could because he lost a legend goddesses. Peer that he grew up with he brought back so he lives in manny. Diaz bringing back against Shawn Porter Guga's or guess Jamal James or guess slipperiness right but use the Crawford. You're fraud what I'm sorry. I mean porter I mean I listen to me. I Toyota Puerto Expense in a great integrate. Fight I thought at the Puerto established himself as well in two thousand nine nine nineteen eighteen. To even even in defeat when it's always show much put-on we're GONNA fight because here we go. You say you say you say defense right right. I think he loves GUS. Well yeah okay but I like I like Shaun since since Most people know sauce are fighting with middle income. The people that are not by the move down he he started. I fight with at one sixty eight Lucy. And you're talking about so I watched Sean over the years. He he he he he read all the smoke as they say but you know he he definitely had I want breakthrough performace uh-huh he needed a break performance. I thought he did against Spencer. Mr Stolen for is just a knock knock knock knock knock down kill knock donkey. He got to reckless that. Knock down guilty all right so let's actually talk. Let's talk about one another as well tonight in nineteen numbers and dear to our hearts because Jay uh-huh gave he won a super welterweight middleweight championship and And now he's in the position to be the top dog there it's got him members. Reo and of the plan. I'm hearing Machado pay view in a really thought about so I'm not. I'm not enough out for three bells now. Offer about life life for three belts June. And I think that's going to be a great fight with the bill dealt with the story. The Bravo were Fox behind it. That's going to be a big fight in the win. Fight can be a potential star to win. That I can't care came to be a straw and I actually heard Bradman in on a another podcast. He said that the that the fight for travel after Williams wins his next bout coming. I'm not sure if he'll be coming out. Trying your come on man. I'm GonNa be there got you got come out man. You gotta come out if we don't we not at least I know you do anything you want to get into. Somebody's exactly. I'm being here though if I buy tickets. I'm going to join the La Brea Macedo but Brandman said that the fight for Charles Recycle Artan. Okay you know what we we all know anything about the tribal side but on our in that fight is less so they said that that Feis is due to happen sometime make spring May June. She so I love to see. I don't want to go into may know I wanNa may the big going Jones. Assume right exactly is Jim also thanked pack cows fighting Jim. Okay that's always a pack. Count Month to me like he likes to own June. 'cause 'cause could never has make nobody number floyd on no one was I think is September. I think it pack up Vol one's is GonNa make sure fight to these fights. He wants his body saying you know you just know how planes So I think if foyt boy does get mad if he gets. Manny is September. Okay I don't I think for you know he's just going to throw stuff out there now if I'm to fighters if if Florida's really serious about fighting if I'm to fighters about Crawford I'm calling Out For it but can now I might be calling for the sixth year. But you know he he. I don't say that you can do soft touch hearing do if you're GonNa do a fight he going to be going to be. PBC IT AIN'T GONNA be a Crawford who Or Canola Zone. ESPN so that he is with those. Are the two biggest fight still down here about that. I mean if that would be huge. Yeah but that'd be huge but not for the first one back you the first one bet you paying for the event you're not paying for the fight but he's only go so so you think adding onto become it becomes he come back next week this year. You don't by chance. I think he wants. Welcome for once you. Okay get both back get that back and get some okay. So so who were fighting me AM I. May what is about money. Anybody is about the about every may make if if if I'm GONNA BBC and come back. I will go I will go Puerto Lebanon's I could. Let's see doing it for they pick apart easy pull easy workflow. Easy work he can be at all times. That's not a normal. That's not a a fight. If not why not. He noted there's nothing is poor to think about it. He's no report are going to be every Puerto can't we will do boxing now. I'm asking. Why box AH mcdonagh find out over them up? That's what he wants you to do. A Madonna fight all though you come to his house you're thinking about Liberty's GonNa come in his house so he he does this one make sense if you say the first one is about the event is lupus right about this at all. You pay him a career. I I like three million keep autumn Brad. We personally like if Roy off I keep Denver. I bet his ass. I'm Kief but key if I could pick a name. I keep arming. And then we'll take the money. But that's a governor leave leave Thurman to me I listen while I thankfully will win the fight. That's not a move that make to me. The Lipid is one makes sense to me. Is that okay. The first fight is all about me. There's lots of jail. He exactly. It's all about got me The second fight is about me manny no conventional on business so I can see fluently doing In that way we're the first ones about me. The second one is the is is a guy named fully is moving as moving down. You'RE GONNA be able to we. He if I also try that one fifty five I see all right so we're word we're student about trump the worst. You don't trial is he's going to fight Crawford. Oh you're debt. That's the that's the fight. That trout is fighting. Did you hear that from somebody. Somebody you got the associated with somebody I I I heard. Did you hear that from sauce. Yeah Okay I got you I I heard they got in a bag for Crawford. We're not talking about asked about porter. He said we Dana Day on the table. Right now and somebody told me that they have in the works for right bass are so the key was child announced back in I think September that he was going down to one forty seven And that's all about Crawford because they trying to find real oh fighters for him. PBC Tudo now he's know PBC no more. I'm almost certain. And if he has they want they want something exactly like they're not cooking check. Yeah EH DO I. So child has pretty much told. Everybody's going back down to one seven. I think there's a fight coming up in February I mean in in an R. J. when his new channel to Bible Channel is a church China right. It's something yeah something awkward right and if you you win that fight. I heard that he gets Crawford. Okay I mean so that's something and Charleston name he's a gentleman's name gene he's a up a quote unquote bigger guy. If upcoming down took credit for being not they won't give up. No no even trout to me is a solid fighter. He's all he's he's he's been in MMA drivers fights and I'm saying but to me he's some of the important he just can't put him up. Yeah he I mean I know yeah he report he has big fights out besides CODA lots Canelo L.. Close he lost he lost to Charles Close. I mean so he always end defy your your yeah. He's always in right he's always. Let's see what trump so child next. Fight is coming up against Vo Basell Montoya and it say scheduled to be. Oh they haven't announced which is no. It's no wait. Yes Oh no wait. Yeah so it's not a wealth away. Fifth Fatty exactly exact-. I make for yourself for the big fight. You don't you sound for non title Fight Right. That makes fifty fifty and a half right so if he he wins if he wins if he if he can win this fight I think they've made savy month which For a while Claude suffering and master. First Puerta Crawford because 'em he wants to fight three times next year. Yeah and maybe. By the end of the year he might be able to talk walk into giving him Thurman. or or Thurman Thurman Day Thurman Daniel Porter Order but the key to all that is how well this fury Back so they do good business on that they can say okay. We can do this to be got a real. We're GONNA phone we are found you've got Fox. ESPN and we've got a real form and you know I think that if the form of between Fox. ESPN in some people. Think it's GonNa crack briefly million. I'll think so I don't Thanksgiving I didn't do five hundred thousand. I'll see big number. I see I see I see. Se about especially especially no pressure. No pressure they'll fight on. Get listen they're press of actually. They didn't blow traditional press tour because all their heavy promotion is GONNA. Oh come super bowl. No no no. No I get that. But why not do it three Presto because the because they the personalities to me it may a put like this. I feel you on that because the personalities you want to get them out there back in back in for new you want to get them back in the eye of the people right and that to me Got Makes Sense. If you would have like a Fox dead a fact produced Show in ESPN purdue. Show if you have one co-produced press to a show and I give my seat so you do one in like say La You know and the other joining New York. Ah just keep it real simple the three biggest cities you've got the fighters are we going to be in the MGM grand like like you say you know you wanNA come into come Fight ties you you do the the The circuit I e even though they were swaying. Do Charlemagne you do. I get all that but I just feel like you gotta make this a vent you got to do like I think the art I think I think I think this is going to be I think Fox. ESPN ESPN. The plan is to if you notice you've already seen the PROMOS. ESPN now on this basic like only national attempts to gain over this bro Croton. It's right within the old school with it like like. I said it takes six months. The view like build the pay-per-view building l.. Did them saying like so. Like like the press conferences. The one on ones like you got all these. ESPN PLUS APP. You got the sit down Andre Ward I wanNA see all that it should be like Don king style. Have you gone from C- city in this fight right right right exactly. No no no no no I I I think put it like this. I feel which appoint I like the posters and the barber shops. I like I like that. I like you know Whoa Even built up enough goodwill from them. I know a year ago. This this this you got run out of bed. Because it's been a while and people forget and this seventy where is football basketball baseball. That's GONNA be export beckoning back right but you got boxing horse racing. We got social media. We got all this subject the MSCI forget about a year ago right field. Forget what happened five months ago. Correct true true indeed but it was a great fight ended. You know like I said I want him. I'm a hater on down is like I don't feel like we'll do anything is GONNA do because they it could it talking three million dollars fee thousand. It won't crack a million. Wow you won't crack crack a million colossal. I don't think I don't think fearing I'll say a free. Wild is bigger than Crawford suspense. I think Crawford suspense is a bigger fight really. I think we can find somebody asked me was. I was the biggest bike to be made. I mean Crawford. I don't know the the biggest fighting me as AJ virtual. That's the big to me. Is Is Asia while wow that'd be big of because we champion for the bus. Big Right exactly. I think this is the young. No no no no no. No this is like Here we go. Fury in wilder is like Dharma versus Crawford or Dharma versus earl. It's it's it's a big fight but ain't defy it's not the fight Marquez. Respect out getting Khris Paco. Right I feel you. I feel. There's a big but I think the more we went to Carol beyond capable wrong with her exactly exactly right right I got you. You might be able to keep the being very horrible in a chain was just horrible like Emma. Aj hooked it up to Michael to sleep with the first five rounds. It's going to be they don't make up ain't no the back food water got while they hang while there ain't gonna find Joshua Johnson got found water right through fury fury's accommodating. His his whole thing is to frustrate you to the point. Where you're not fighting like the night do gonNA totally abandon your game plan? Because he's connor vows so much I just WanNa not this guy out and about and that's whoa how. We think that we should be Cannella. He can he can hot. Fear do people about that next guy to talk about bosses houses because I cooked the the canal thing to to meet this year. And everybody's getting on the final year but I swear that that Coppola Fla fight this left. Forget it just felt so fraudulent. It was that was A. He fired a year right but that was a does. It was a calculated plan. Doubt our Jacobs goofy talk to me is that but the copland was like the power remember. How the Senate this this happened Oscar Senate and even said it? We want undisputed so this week I bet he beat Danny Boob Google Vice. It lucky then we'll get undisputed right and all of a sudden boo boo to good twelve. Nothing right up now first round in job yeah right. Now I'm driving belts that may W. A. No online WBZ franchise bullshit deny bef. COME UP DOC GULFS. Who would you fight Shinco for it? That was a great fight to people. Forget about that fight damaging over triple J. That was that was a great fight. Brutal fight right. I think I mean I spent some Puerto was better Fi. I think different Jingo I was more like a more brutal. Oh fight I mean that. That was a five year. They endeavoured Kinko do that loss. He's perfect type of travel. He's no no dating on the same street that's a that's BBC. So I could see that. But that's a perfect FIFA charge on Charlie off stains sally building. They told me you bake during your next. Who Chris eubank J? Yeah right right right. And that's really chastity. We may see having your bank. It's Hamilton but this also don t move you get depressed. You'll have to fight up the day. You may drink and talk about got great. She sleeps in three rounds. He try going to sleep looking at me Charlie. Big Knock him out on Fox or showtime there. I mean you bring does have some talent. No no no no. He's not he's not bad he just he just doesn't own the he's an upper echelon out he's a a-class fighter put the CB he can be classed. Grab your eight class got fighting. So why is Charlie. Go to me avoiding Andre so like open. Let's openly say I don't WanNA I don't WanNA fight them. They got everything they say. That the what the dead zone dead zone. It's two two ways. In my opinion. She wants back in the day with fog his brother where he narrowly pulled but he never signed a contract. Let's let's see put up a fight arguments. He pulled out so people say well you pull up beforehand reliable and channel got the PVC thing behind the wheel. You say if I got on my side of the street street but Eddie come off seventy dollars one point five and a fight on the books we question you write the seven she might he did. He went over there. You got that seven million from his own. The Fi- Jesse Vargas. I mean so you know how that go so he. He bought the bag. So let's see. What are we going to do because boo boo? You see he wishing a merry Christmas and his brother twitter said he was going back and forth and the EPSOM. Listen we're just GONNA take a quick break discipline my pockets radio we go. Wait wait around with some people stating building. I got a special special guest as popular here in the studio so because it's going to take a quick break and going to come back and talk some more boxing. This is talk not the shit off the top do most. That's why she keeps me sleep in the talk to shock and you talk to the best thing about a three to four times Jamie Foxx mic shot stream of money on tax the dollars in Persia. She said don't want that lasted for instance. Some second movie I like his Reggie Miller now clearly such novel Brown when I was never tailed Taco place until now to you can tell me my face on a shift for the coach Hind companies. I like the you go by the whole comes. uh-huh might have smoked. Costa Rica's cool. Many soon street has just taller reminded because bank which is offering this Valentino casino chip. This black aware cut the heat. Milius sadden here come in my section Sadler. The Marshall Brennan Vote Tracking Chair. But we hit like a second nature you stand up in fucking since you because the UH when I was in business by Disney is mob. There's lucky this is cinnamon. Toast push back enough to hit. Your fishy took off. And I don't Bush passed me. Make a move the single nasty. You WanNa be flashy people shoot on so you already know you're gonNA blast the more you'll booth. He gave what they got back. I'll bet big on the next. We will stretch pick like we just got the kickoff shot onto the the New Plymouth. That's we'll forget. Don't get my quickest New Mexico. Couple shots pretty much. Yes you could give ooh. I'll do my dad was actually on the poem I hit. They sit on the low side. I want my birth route. Deborah's gotta go girl. She made let me lay from US shelter. Not that I'm hot. Shopping wrote evolved from some of our tillis breath killers. No wild get busy fix it. Get wicked and they know stay on my pivot to make a move in us. He's with the first. I'M GONNA FLIP IN NOTEPAD gymnastics. Monica spin it goes man this is the fact is tragic military would have been flipping. She doing gymnastics. You get Monica's pinnacles man let us Just does the wrestler step again like a rocket mortgage partner feet up for when you get shot up. Kim Dawson still came foster Dumas Daytona before the Brexit can't stop Toyota Auto. GotTa gotTA shoot. ONDECK would've potok froze up a hollow missile look addition about an open the Beker rover. I'm in a bit flip in gymnastics. It's an athletic man pitches. We hit you the flip. She doing gymnastics plastic. Monica's pinnacles man. We hit it's a book the three A. R. E. Venom. The dog is so crazy. Amazing Yeah I love you so crazy. That video way done with smoking in the building I guess did not just laugh breath. But it's all good We're going to keep on this box train here so so we we actually talked about the Nello situation. which is next move in West is going to be next move and and and the word on the street for canal is biblically Joe Sanders uh-huh I know that fight makes a ton of sent healing healing rightfully pickens one hundred sixty eight title W W title and he's not a big big one hundred sixty eight guy big puncher name exactly it takes O as a legacy which he he he wants to legacy right now and then after that thinking thinking I think trump will defy hat exactly and I think that happens at one sixty eight I think that's I think that's the key I think the key is to get triple would you out of his out of his comfort zone so I mean it makes sense four can able to get a real belt to Maguy Gordon? They go up the in pounds and that'll and if you if you if you know. The strategy acted the second triple defy. He hasn't even for that one sixty but once Jacob's you right right you know what I'm saying. So he's only for the one sixty once and it's been pretty much say you know what I in our fight this guy. I'm everything is going to be. My everything is GonNa be on my own. My turns I'm I'm going to see a bad. Tricky wants to fight he going to awesome contriburti big on do not no no no. I'm no no triple to take that fight. A one citizens sixty but a much is he willing to give up now. The cool thing about this fight here between the potential thirty five between triple G and now is that because they both are on on their VIP persons are already putting my sad vise about Cannella when we want to win. Wants to fight them exactly so being smart exactly so this Incan Nello Mello is playing the game in terms of making guys. Wait and beat the body down you had to take a tough fight against A DEL TACO hello. Now he's GonNa Make Tripathi tripathy next by is going to be more of a soft Utah. Samaras something like this a softer five knockouts. Yeah exactly full. Actually I think he on the trilogy under car when Four Daring Chink offer got who he foot where he fought on the car. I mean I I guess I've ever seen five Chandran unification but we know he ain't shooting or do that. I mean that that makes the most sensitive. I mean triple D.. Pretty much saying it that he wanted to all the belts I that was his goal was to be undisputed middleweight championship champion and that went from. I'm fine go to have an an obsession with beating. Canal obsession is upset as undefeated champions. He'll you you could. You could walk your own legacy exactly go take Gopi Charles will be Andrey name got three thousand again and you force connote a fight bite you now. Because I have all the other bill and in the public in the public the the end amend it will also it would make Alvarez appear appear appear to be a doctor it would make my April. It will clearly give them the perception of and his Mexican and one thing about Alvarez. Is that the people like people do understand that he does have Tom. Cesar Chavez again again embarrassed himself but he he he just I think you got to almost earn a fight but you got the we own path. I if he got the if you'd be Charles M. B. Andrea got had three belts. People will be like Yo you talking. Give them to smoke but what people are maybe fight item so he he ain't. He hangs on rural crazy the main fight. But Hey hey he gangsters out. I mean we see rolls. Come on Bro so last week. I don't think this area we haven't been dug in the tank on that Michelle Campo so again Bowen tank fight. It's interesting because Cambozola is not really what he wants. What and he had an injury and unofficial official injury again like in the second round yeah tank prior to to fight did not make weight and he was moving up in weight week? Four the first the first time. That's also a not a great sign for him. Like how did you see taking his last fight and they can billy bang with all with all the stuff that like we I think tank if he focus he najem anybody right. I just felt like he and and see what he didn't. He didn't do his game. Boy He puts shotgun. He wasn't going to three folk shots. He was Tonka doubt so he was that one punch knockout and the uppercut. There's no like he seemed gamble gamble down a lot of times career. He been out before I mean so he saying that I'm gonNA knock him out. I Got Paul. All he found was Powell. I'm moving up on monarchy gamble moving up and he came out and once you become a family Nacchio Menachem innocuous got Prague and Olympia. He got what twenty three point three something like that. Yeah he no he no. He's no pushover as a student at a game here fighters so I mean so. It's like you get knocked out. And we ate right there for tango so he was motivated and he was in camp hope us right so he's getting great sparring right so I was wondering I was GonNa ask you about Lopez Nex I mean. He's he no. He had the phenomenal knockout of like me yeah. I didn't see that coming canoe. Lopez was mad. I seen a common identity. Come now early. 'cause Grischuk Oh me no right to call me when he when he gets you hurt. He hops absolutely see. I didn't think is going to be from St Shot Foam Lopez like a shot at the the hook or uppercut. I was going to be from like that's Komiya. We catching Lopez and he couldn't get reckless him get called back because they'll call me recording right how he got back in the fight so out those like a knife round concuss Komi what will actually being down cars that second round. Knockout impressed me. I didn't see that coming coming in so so one of the bigger fights that that we not definitely coming twenty twenty this past Loma. I like the kid really like the kid. You think you think Tennessee could compete. He he went around. I think I think he'd knock him out. You think you think you're catching would check hook up with a checkered Iran. He got started up. He can't go and see he distinguished. He can't go on hearsay. I'm Botham Ching-kuo Wadham Jingo. 'cause actually people think long when she goes This official wizard note. Lomas better off the front foot the back foot. So if I'm Lopez and that's on the bigger younger fighter collude Lopez we are released during. What's he likely right so he squeezes uses by them to meet went one hundred five? Say He's he says I'm only that's what he wants to fight Lohman now only got one exactly. So I'm a squeeze my bite on this and I'm GONNA walk walk as as now. There's going to be A. He need flashbacks. Legal fight can get walked down. Put pressure on that. He got he got to do with Keystone Don was supposed to remain. Pekka will be old man right A.. I know it ain't your time what she wants. She wants about great fighter. Once the the group is over. But you can't let me we're GONNA groove I league in the groove early. You'RE GONNA win. You gotta be uncomfortable for him from row one you go then maybe legal tie and I titled Relax Subsequent Chuckled Teeth a good check hook uppercut ranking set. It up he got oppression Oldman he could beat him for the moment and for all right soaking so you honestly believe that tank can actually connect to compete with the Lopez. Yeah he believes the hands of the world he got present he he got his shots can he. He Fall in love with power he kind of like how Charles One thousand four Chelsea. The fellow is Bob. which aren't the? It's hard not guile on top level box one punch as few one punts not. Here's an history of the game. Now you can set up so that oneplus one clean shot knocked them out right. Come on my last question to you before the night is out the decade is up we end the twenty twenty who was the fighter of the decade between two thousand ten two thousand nine nine nineteen me. Whoa I know what you we know how I feel about floyd but I gotta get with credit? Like he definitely was. He changed just in terms of how he changed the way you perceive boxing and how and how fighters men maneuvered through through the business now over the last ten. I'm to bring. Because he be pack Yao Picanello Madonna twice beat Madonna twice Rava Guerrero the Guerrero who was a Well nobody but I know he'd be I know he'd be Burto Kinda McGregor. I guess McGregor bigger. I mean the really. The two big ones are packed out. Canal the canal you Madonna twice Madonna really major invitation came down player indication. Okay heating done about Madonna to the Buffet Brown and Brown. So I mean I'm giving that he gave to quality fight. He came home in jail. He robbed Guerrero the fully. Madonna for Madonna's white. But it was it was it was guerrero. McDonald's twice burto McGregor. No McGregor wasn't part of the so. Let's let's let's get it. Become Kota. Kota was colder with the it was right before he did the fight. Right before the That was that was that June isn't me fight you that was that was. Hbo Fire Actually Does Hbo Fight. But Yeah I think thanks Lou and if I go he had Guerrero Guerrero was Oh it was. So then he went he went guerrero. Railroad can now go Madonna Madonna. Pack Yao Burto McGregor we we will year was Guerrero gravel were two thousand thirteen. Koto was two thousand twelve. Oh he definitely find it if he got on Sunday. Twelve a me either. Maybe think about it. Moseley was two thousand ten season thinking about the guys he beat he'd be Moseley victory. Tease Kodo Guerrero Alvarez Madonna twice pack Yao Bertel. Dav Close. It's not even close to a five. It'd be Floyd Floyd War. War occurred consideration. Paco Paco Klitschko and usage right. No own all. The cruiserweight kid won't give titus another decade that okay so chuck shot shot Tito retire. The tough on top of aloe are not yet I'm I'm Jay Cutler was was legit. I mean he has titans in there. I mean you got the triple g fight was tight. Takeaways fight within their was tight on somebody action the system. That's optical. Oh Okay you actually think you might have been Flaming hanging my fighting by decade. I I so can no. Ob Moseley washed Lopez ask Austin trout which everybody thought very very close off the floor. He beat he beat and Grupo fight was lost. The verify graphite was closed chazan. Google James Kirkland trash trash fight Koto but that was I give credit for that he you become not yeah makes sense. Yeah and then he fought Chavez junior trash razz triple g twice. Okay Give Yeah Los Angeles Window and he got Jacobs Kovalenko one window. But it's not Sean Floyd not find it done. It's not fleshed on. I mean this was. This was the decade for me. This guy left a backup last back. Look I think tank out well just pack out with just more riveting riveting in China the better that I just think he's walk through like this actually came. A document is because action. Listen document the document. I got more actually more killings than than the action movie documentary slower right. Dummies better right. It sounds like I mean we all know for the last twenty years. It's either I mean you really my fight over the last decade was Bernard. Oh Okay I'll give you. I was the last fight a between two thousand two two thousand ten two thousand ten two thousand nineteen but you know date probably. They probably won't give Benard Dad for the Tiller Losses Lowe's remains bison and then the second one I think he won the first one. I thought one I want to. I want both both which you because I've listened. I tell you I saw your tweet. That Inaki dropped cows zagging first round the first the second straight right then Kyle Zaki started dancing. PITTY PAT and puts in Bernard was in a real hard pitch. Would they say clean effective punches ring. Generalship Not Pat Pat Pat. You know what I'm saying so that you can change your right right. 'cause he oliver the glove punches exactly man but he threw Margherita was to me and punches down meeting with people write his name is Paul Williams me. Oh those dues to twelve hundred thank you. Oh awesome awesome fight but that was in the last last Aka Paul Williams at one time was my favorite fighting. Yeah I got knocked out by watching. I was not the second round. James serramonte surgery was a great great fire. That's always will want to see for all. Yeah I wonder what I always. I'm mad that could've got Martinez Leap Martinez leak could ask. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. Cou Cou blue and his leg was messed corden get Martinez surgery was always going to be a well. Yeah Surgery was done at that point. In time I keep cutting heinous Barpeta Fi. Na Na NA NA and was a check at that time. He knew cash his knee was done by. Yeah you're always h you man and like I said if you WANNA get tie Gary by information about all your stuff listen a man like I said. CHECK ME OUT MR T.. wacky one hundred bucks a month. Check man you to keep it one hundred one hundred work WANNA boxing man check me. I don't I'm also on instagram. Keep wanting to boxing and check me on twitter. Nancy wassily three key Wanda box. A man that that. That's my tax instagram twitter. It'll you too man. I'm on on Youtube upbringing. A straight talk heating. I ain't fluff enough amount. knoll fluff straight boxing. Talk Real Hardcore boxing fans and you'll too but then again with their discipline park has got radio waves on what's his people saying. Don't WanNa give my mentor. Another set off. Thanks again where you where I got two things. This is a fax executive producer. Give my man Fox a got you things to say you'd better hustle hard or hustle is home. Does the PODCAST GACA radio. 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The Ocho: Happy New Year!

"American what a world welcome to another episode of the ocho paternity partnership as always. Sp nations blogging. The boys dot com are joa course from and from right ears you're humble host onto the ocho. It is friday january first two thousand and twenty one. We hope all is or wherever you are. We hope you're happy safe healthy and we wished you in yours a very happy new year we hope the two thousand and twenty one is full of great things for you your friends your family and of course we hope the two thousand and twenty one is full of great things for the dallas cowboys. That's right the cowboys will play the biggest game of their season. Two days from now. And there's only one of two games that hold extreme relevance to america's team here in week seventeen We are now in two thousand and twenty one but only the two thousand and twenty. Nfl season could give us a situation where we as cowboys fans have to route. Not only for our own team but for the philadelphia eagles as well. That's right the cowboys need win. And then they need to wait and watch and hope that the eagles are able to help them out if they do want to be. Division champions and host a playoff game very likely against the tampa bay buccaneers. And i feel like we've said you know everything that we we kind of. Can i think that we we believe the cowboys are going to win this game. Not that it's going to be easy. But i think that giants offense is broken and i know that that is an assertion that our good friend valentine disagrees with to some degree i know. He picked the giants to win on our show on thursday. But i think that we all think the cowboys are gonna win. And i think that we all think the eagles are going to win. And i know. I've said that but this has been one of those weeks where it's kind of you know from the moment. The situation was set right where we knew what we wanted to fast forward and get to it and it's fun to have that kind of game hovering in the air. It's been a while since that's been the case for the cowboys and so i think it's going to be fun. I think that sunday is going to be a very fun day. And i do want to let you know kind of the way. We're going to handle things because the cowboys game will finish about three o'clock central time and obviously sunday night. Football does not start until seven o'clock central time so as soon as the cowboys game ends. We'll have our normal post game. Show the way we always do. You can watch us. Live on our youtube channel log on the boys youtube channel. Subscribe and you can listen to that if you'd like that will be up very shortly after the cowboys game is over again. We are assuming and hoping and praying for a win so if you want to listen to that between that game ending and the eagles washington game starting you can and we will. Obviously we'll go live again and we'll record again after sunday night. Football is over to discuss the season and discuss the cowboys season and discussed the nfc used winner and so there will be two versions of that production on sunday. So you can look forward to that you can like i said watch live or or listen after the fact both of those episodes will be in your podcasts via to make sure you do. Subscribe to the blog on the boys podcasts. Networks you get access to all of our wonderful shows by the way makes you subscribe to the sp nation nfl show. We have different shows that come out across the nation. You can hear from me on mondays and thursdays we some stuff that we're working on. Don't don't wanna tell you all the secrets. But i feel i can listen to me like my thoughts on the. Nfl makes you subscribe the espionage in nfl. Show for fun stuff that we're working on. That's all i can say at this point. I'm recording this on thursday new year's eve at about four thirty pm central time and so obviously getting a little bit ahead because of the new year stuff going on. Obviously you've got a lot going on as well whether you're celebrating at home or whatever the case may be We do hope that you are safe and healthy throughout at all. I think it's worth mentioning from an injury standpoint. The cowboys saw bendon nucci pop up on thursdays injury report. You know all due respect to the new but not like he's going to be counted on in this game all likelihood The important thing is that she debate leuze returned to a full level of participation coming off that hamstring situation so that nice to see other than that no real changes from in fact no actual changes from the injury report. We do corral these for you by the way at blogging. The boys dot com. If you want to see for what it's worth the new york giants. Nothing change there as well daniel jones a full participant yet again. Evan ingram was limited participant. Obviously the very athletic tight end and no practice for golden state. golden state obviously has been a bit of a well. He has a bit of a reputation. I think to be cowboy killer but really has not had that much success in that capacity. You know really kind of ever over up but whatever we also have been this week including the injured reports for the philadelphia eagles washington football team because we obviously care about the result of this game. Wow the eagles. Thursday report wednesday report really but it looks long both days miles sanders. The philadelphia eagles running back was added to the injury report. He is being listed with a knee injury. The needles obviously have battled a lot of injuries all season long. They had no participation for a number of different players. And on the other side of that. Alex smith who obviously there's a big question about whether he will play or not he was limited. He did not practice on wednesday for washington but he did practice in a limited capacity on thursday. There was full participation for both tim. Settle in jonathan allen. I think we all know that. The washington defensive front is one of the best in the nfl. But it really is going to come down to whether or not Alex smith plays. And i've said this already this week. I think even if alex smith plays at the eagles are going to win and another. The eagles have obviously their own situations going on. But there's a lot going on in that locker room. There's a lot going on in that organization. This is something that i did talk about with rob stats carreira on thursday's episode of the look ahead on the nation. Nfl show. think about that. Triumvirate in philadelphia howie roseman. Doug peterson carson wentz. We know for certain right that that group is not returning one hundred percent wise in two thousand and twenty one and so this i think we all think carson has gone right like by way of trade or something This might be. Doug peterson trying to prove the data already proves that he is very successful without carson wentz. But this might be a great kind of exclamation point for that statement you know. Hey look at me. This team with this great defensive front came into our house you know in week. Seventeen on sunday night. Football china win the division. And we didn't let them. I know we let the cowboys. When but doug peterson. Priorities aren't keeping the cowboys out of the playoffs. They're keeping peterson's job the way he wanted to be. And so that's my prediction. I think the cowboys win. I think the eagles win. And i think that that means the dallas cowboys are. Nfc champions which would be a ridiculous thing to be a reality given everything that we have all seen and experienced this season but sometimes that's just the way football goes and so. I'm looking forward to it later on today. We will have a new episode of girls. Talk and boys so look forward to that tomorrow. A new episode of cowboys. You will hear from me. Like i said twice on sunday following the cowboys game. Where assuming that to be a win. Like i said and then the eagles game which we are going to be a win there as well. Hopefully we get to celebrate division title. Hopefully your new year celebration. Like i said was very safe very healthy. We love you. We appreciate you making us part of your cowboys experience and good luck to the dallas cowboys. Let's have some fun. do me a favor. Have the absolute best friday and year of all time because you deserve it. We will see you many on my friends as always go cowboys in peace out.

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FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: BLG invades Monday Football Monday

Bleeding Green Nation

08:41 min | 5 months ago

FROM THE SB NATION NFL SHOW: BLG invades Monday Football Monday

"The following segment is from monday football monday on the sp nation nfl show. Where we're discussing your favorite teeth. Subscribe to the nation. Nfl show to make sure you don't miss conversations like this one this hold on. We have a person that has entered the chat named ben delucci. What is what does this. The odds friendly. i'm here. He's off monday after huge eagles win. You'll fan feel great after his on dominant performance complain about totally good rouse if good about that win. If you're an eagle fan in all reality. It is very depressing. That i'm here under. These circumstances is supposed to be a blowout win where i came in here now. I rolled out the stone. Cold steve austin music. Kisses going to edit that out. Maybe you will. But i'm here stone on how you doing brother. What did you think of the game last night because it was twenty. Three to nine and i was furious. Incredibly frustrating win mike Filthy loss you have the eagles come out here. They're trailing than the not who. Apparently i am and cowboys at halftime Pretty embarrassing carson. Wentz four turnovers. But i'm not going to let this opportunity. Go by where you know. The eagles beat the cowboys. And there's so many things. I want to bring up so many articles from the fine site that i know blogging in the boys. Let me read you some of these headlines here by the appreciate all. The traffic drove Looking for these data. Let's or on the same network supporting each other and fairness. Rj did not write most of these years one here. I have to read some of these and bear with me guys five predictions for the twenty twenty cowboys. One of these. Here is mike mccarthy winds coach of the year. That's the every everything's totally the same as it was and we said that definitely cowboys news. Three reasons why the cowboys will win super bowl. This year how the everson griffen signing could help demarcus lawrence returned to another fourteen point five sacks season. I mean he has three this year. So demarcus balled out in philly last night everson griffin is just the latest smart freidan signing for the cowboys. Chat are argue. Jones's recent history shows how the cowboys one year freeze deals. Keep getting better and better. I mean they just don tari polo for regal. That's are the cowboys on the brink of a dynasty run. We can run mike. Mccarthy and the cowboys are really are creature actually agree with that one that one accurate just a couple more here guys. Cowboys offense onto line coach. Joe philbin quietly. One of the best hires off season that you just have to agree. I mean you look at all the injuries they're dealing with. They possibly overcome that except the eagles offense align injuries. They're dealing with their offense of coach is doing okay The people betting the over for the two thousand twenty dallas cowboys are doing so confidence. Eighty five percent. I wrote that one that was one that wasn't teddy fairness. He's just showing that eighty percent of the handle your betting on the cowboys. Four more hosts game data reveals. The cowboys might be poised or something. Big in twenty twenty. They're definitely poised for something. Big not something. good. Big trade for jamal adams. No thanks the cowboys are a super bowl. Contending team without him. I mean the said looking like a contending team with them too so i guess that's fair. Why trade of this one's really is. Why trade for jamal adams when the cowboys already have a top five safety tanto dix was actually on the team cowboys. Currently hold the sixth overall. Pick in the nfl draft. Meanwhile the eagles are convincing themselves. That a quarterback who benvenuti outplayed at times easy there carson. Wentz is the fact the idea that people want to debate him with that. Prescott is is hilarious. This point win. One of the best people associated with billion nation has already admitted the dak. Prescott is a superior quarterback in the division. That's that's i mean. I did and i was right and i'm not gonna apologize for it. I have no dog in this fight. I want to emphasize this. And this part of what i'm about to say. This is not impressive but the eagles have the best and healthiest quarterback currently in the division. They have the best and healthiest weapons in division and their defense is second best and division but washington's quarterback situation is so bad that it doesn't matter i'm ready to call it three or four and one unless the giants do something miraculous with danny dimes. I don't anticipate it. This is over three four and one. The eagles are going to win the. Nfc may not be with more than six wins but they are clearly the best of this embarrassing division beog who has the longest leash associated with the eagles. Y'all pal john this last week is it. Is it howie roseman is doug. Peterson carson wentz. It's howie roseman interests much. Unfortunately is i think a lot of the fans would say that. That should be the number one person to go. I would say that's the number one person that go. How rose has been in the eagles organization for twenty years now since two thousand since the millennium now obviously he hasn't been in power the whole time he's been a general manager since two dozen ten and then there was that year that kelly had control. But it's like it's time you look at this roster the second most expensive roster in football if the eagles were in this. Mcc what's their record right now and you're paying all this money for this so to me it starts at the top. I don't think the talent is enough Doug peterson won a super bowl with a backup quarterback in a lot of guys and quarterback carson wentz philly special team a team. That happened for as much as things go. Bad in dallas in l. and like the kind of the bottom falls out players. Kinda quit on mike mccarthy or at least having more so recently are that doesn't happen in philly with totally agree they don't quit on it so there's something about the culture there Obviously i mean if you keep playing. He's going gonna have to get benched but Yeah it should be. How do you guys want to win the nfc east. I mean because. I do think the cowboys have the obvious. you know. Like layer of. Yeah you've got a tank you've got to whatever but like the eagles are just as much there. And i do imagine you would be worried that winning it would lure the organization into this false sense of security because of what pizza like you know what i mean. Wow we wanted division. We're bad s. You know and so i hope that happens for you. I hope you feel shame. I think it would have to go really really poorly for them to lose the division and that has a lot of impacts just outside of drafts lot having a better draft pick right like that memes receivers got hurt or regressed poorly that means wentz continues to play scattershot and maybe even worse and terribly that means the defense fell apart. that has so many different ramifications to it. I want to win the east. But i actually i want to do it competently. Not in the way that they did it last night and against the giants right. Give me an uptick from that. Give me some better performances from units and players. And i'm okay with losing some some some draft slot in the in the first and second round my last thing for For biaggi here. I believe it was brandon. That wrote something over the off season. About how the nfl has been giving the eagles unfortunate disadvantage while rewarding the cowboys and giving them an advantage from a scheduling perspective or the Eagles after a home thursday night game got to host the dallas cowboys. Who were coming off of a road. Sunday game the week before. Yeah i mean. I think when you look at that time though you still see like the cowboys. Don't have the play on the road on a short week. Which is like which coaches players. Everyone will tell. You is a massive disadvantage. They'd never have literally never have to. I wanna leave you guys one guy. Whatever want really impactful. Do you remember when the league looked on the jones family and their leadership of the cowboys as a joke. Now with the exception of one notable contract obviously talking about dak prescott. They are just killing things from hiring mike mccarthy to the stunning draft and all these free agent moves the cowboys are doing things right That doesn't sound like me. okay brandon. We appreciate the unexpected time that project that you and stats are working on. I hope it takes a little bit cute. Little thing you guys got going on is on tuesdays. Comes up as you can listen to podcasts. And it's the great great show. Okay checkup bleeding. Green nation here. Of course i'm bgn. Radio all the time brandon. You are the man. Thanks so much for joining us. Make sure you don't miss our next conversation by subscribing to the sba nation nfl. Show wherever you get your podcasts.

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Salisbury Steakout: Price For Russell Wilson, Astros Over/Under According To Vegas

The Sean Salisbury Show

14:09 min | Last month

Salisbury Steakout: Price For Russell Wilson, Astros Over/Under According To Vegas

"The sean sounds breeze show continues. I sean here now. The cells stakeout steakhouse. On the sean salisbury. Show all right fellas. Let's take it out. It's tuesday james. Click about our forty five minutes astros. Gm all right. What's up Russell wilson is believed according to a report by teams to going to take at least three first rounders if you want to have a conversation about him who knows if his services are actually available for trae bit. Do you think three first round picks to be enough in return for russell wilson if somebody traded for him. Here's the deal And we this is worth discussion because we've also heard that. The patriots have inquired about quarterbacks and jimmy garoppolo one of them and i was told during the fall time by two people in boston. I said who will be the starting quarterback for the patriots and twenty twenty one. Both of them said jimmy garoppolo. This was four months ago. So we'll see if that holds up with the russell wilson situation three first round picks. He's worth it not ten years from now but in the next five years he's worth it now. Think about this name me so far this off season three guys have been disgruntled or have grown. That had a relationship or maybe four but three for sure that have had a relationship with a quarterback worth their their head coach. That seemed solid has been solid. It's amazing how when that sad when people say. How does the head coach and a quarterback superstar. How does it sour. And i'm gonna tell you how it happens when we look at team's success who were the first two people. We look to head coach and quarterback correct look at team's failure who the first two people. We look at head coach quarterback right. So you're winning. Doug peterson and carson wentz and the quarterbacks playing well guess what happens. They're best buddies high five and laughing like crazy place seemed to work. Then all of a sudden things start to go. You win a super bowl. Thanks start to go south quarterback struggling with a quarterback struggling guests who takes the brunt of the blame other than the quarterback the head coach. So all of a sudden. Now you're starting to scramble around. Say wait a minute man. I've tied to this guy. Three four games and role and then now the player starts to say wait a second. Why are you turn your back on me now. We were together. And so it's it's a vicious vicious cycle. So we've seen it happen does shawn and not necessarily bill o'brien or romeo cornell but in the front office disgruntled unhappy and we're not sure what he's gonna do. Three other guys. Jared goff sean mcvay buddy-buddies in the win to the super bowl. They lose the super bowl. He doesn't play well in the last game and a half not only the championship game but the super bowl and all of a sudden the kind of goes south injury struggled a little bit and now that love affair keys in detroit and just a year and a half ago. These guys were tired and mouse nuts. Have you ever thought how tight that is tyler. Think about that is now. I'm tight brother. Okay so tight. And now he's gone. Doug peterson carson. Wentz is could be right. Matter of fact there's even into the last month of the season even if it was hyperbolic or just crap coming out of doug peterson's mouth you remember. We sat on his show. Mc and he's any endorsed carson. Winston why would i make that change. He's my quarterback blah blah paraphrase. In two weeks. Later what happened. Jalen hurts was starting quarterback that soured doug peterson gone. Carson wentz gone russell wilson. We've heard pete caroline him. Everything's fine and dandy. I mean this is a peach starts him. That went super bowl. Go to super bowls. Everything's fine struggle. turns it over. Doesn't play well. He's the mvp. The first eight games at a season last eight wasn't thanks. Start to go a little different. At least what we hear out of there that there's a little strain and strain continues analysis and your field and calls on russell wilson. He was untouchable last year year before so now the talk is three first rounders. I would have said. There's no way on earth if you'd have brought this a year from now. Russell wilson is going to be on trade talks. We laugh right will head coaching. Because you know who the biggest guy to go to bat for you aside from your quarterback coach or coordinator if the head coach loves you. He'll crawl ten miles of broken glass to keep you there with the front office or general manager even if he's not part of the personnel stuff. I'm sure pete is and it's russell wilson. Now i don't know if he's gonna stay or go but they a third of the league is reached out about russ supposedly by according to bleacher report. A third of the league. And that's mike silver a third. So if that's if the third of the league just over ten teams of reached out about russell wilson and they are disgruntled front office or the head coach quarterback and it's starting to be strained and all of a sudden somebody calls you up like new england and says we'll give you three first round picks or the jet or anybody. Hell what would've russell wilson went to the jets at all. This got screwed up. would you give up. Three first round picks form. I would because in the short term. I think russell wilson's worth three first round picks. If if you're gonna tell me stafford's too. And i love matt stafford. How can russell wilson not be worse three. Honestly if i if. I was the seahawks i'd be. I would be looking for for and people will be thinking nuts but three implanted. Maybe the specific situation. I got the jets. Decided they wanted. Russell wilson over chasing the shawn watson like i would go offer if i've yes. Yeah i'd go offer those four picks of the next couple of years. Whatever it is get. That flare is going to sound like. He's not like he's super old. No it's this is gonna sound odd now over the next ten years i'd obviously take seven years or more. I'd take the sean over russell wilson but if you're telling me in a three to four years step i'd have to think about both russell. Wilson's put up numbers that make him. He's one of those guys so you said who's my quarterback over the next three years you'd have to think of russ are sean. There's a major argument. Both ways that you can make the argument for sean and i could make the argument for us. Both of them. I can hargrove for both. But if you're like the minnesota vikings and you want to get rid of kirk. Let's say you're not worried about the salary. Cap it right and you think we got a super bowl caliber team. One guy way that happens to be the quarterback if you felt that way and you said the mud like hey if pittsburgh parts with ben roethlisberger guess what you know what it's going to cost them like forty one million dollar cap it. But let's just say and they're twenty and they need to cut twenty million dollars off their cap so think about twenty to twenty five million so think about that. That's forty plus mill with rothlisburger yet. They haven't endorsed him in the front office. He'll he may have to take a pay cut or bin could stand for him saying he wants to come back. But can you come back at that price. But you can't damn it's hard to cut in or get rid of him. 'cause forty one million dollars against a dead cap it. So but if. You're the vikings and you decide you wanted to do. What would since philadelphia did with cousins money. Can you imagine hell if you're if you're minnesota and you say we could get russell wilson for three first rounders. Wouldn't you do it if you're the chicago bears. And it costs you. Three first rounders to get russell wilson and having for the next five years wouldn't you do it. i would. Assets are fine as long as those assets are better than the guy you got and a guy that's going there you're not gonna draft guy that in the next three or four years is going to be better than russell wilson at that position or any other position that would mean that if you drafted a defensive end he would have to be a top three or four player at his position in the league. Russell wilson's that so three first. Rounders that and listen if the relationship is strained like it's reported and it's really strained and all of a sudden they come up and say three first rounders and it's a team like the jets where you're picking high or the dolphins and you get to and miami gets russell wilson and you get to and two first rounders or three i. Can you imagine i if you're pete carroll john schneider. Don't you answer the phone. We have to think about right. I mean because he's over the years over the age of thirty thirty two right and if you knew if you were the one of those teams that needed that guy and you knew you could get him if it if the seahawks have all these calls have three first round picks. You can have him hell. I'd have to. I would have to have. I'd have to consider if the seattle seattle seahawks are willing to part with russell wilson. Three first rounders. Dude i would i would. I would make that call. If i was if i was a new england patriots. I'd be beyond that as quickly as possible. Wouldn't you i yesterday. I think like the texans the seahawks. It'd be stupid even consider us. But i agree. Now we live in a world. Now we're stupid is the norm unfortunately and if it strained and you start to think little older big salary we can get three first routers. Maybe it's time right. And i it's even it's dumb but it's not even as dumb as the watson because watson is like seven years younger right six years younger so they're both dumb but if i if you told me right now the seahawks would give me a court would give me russell wilson for three first rounders on partner with i part with the three first rounders. I'm going if seahawks are dumb enough to do that. All right tyler. What you got before we wrap this up. So caesar's sportsbook over in vegas released. Their over unders on wins for the season for the major league baseball. They have the astros at eighty eight. Even do the astros win. More than eighty eight. Yes or no. I ll cy. Woodside taken the over if they're giving me that bet seizures. I think it's probably worth with me to take the over and make some money now. The ten games over. But i think it's over. Here's the interesting thing is that caesar's has the astros twenty to one odds to win the ale west. They have one team ahead of them and that team is the oakland as they have as eighteen. The one with an win over underwent of eighty eight point five. I don't see the. I don't see the oakland a.'s. As i see the oakland a.'s. Taking a step back this year i ross. Gradulate everybody on stealing money from caesar's today at twenty it's twenty two one to win. The division astros are at twenty to one the as are at eighteen. The one guy. I may have to take. That bet did so. Twenty two one on one thousand bucks. Gimme what twenty grant. I believe something. Is that what it is okay. I'm just. I'm just wanna lend me a grand. I listen to phone call. I got family in vegas. That happen may have to happen. Twenty two one to win the division. Actually let me let me rephrase that. I was looking at the ronstadt. The houston astros are twenty two one to win the world series the as our eighteen to one okay now won the world series to win the division houston plus one thirty different story then right different stores the fact that they have on that grand right. What's that i said. Let's go ahead. yeah. I had to take the win on the over i. They're they're winning. More eighty eight games. Unless they i think they can you on their way to eighty five games. That's too low to me. That's about six seven games too low. I think there in the low nineties maybe four games. They've got almost thirty wins in their season built in between the mariners and rangers. And it might be. That might be the low end. The mariners by the ceo gone resigns after some horrible horrible discriminatory comments about the non-english-speaking players and current players. And and seager. I mean he he just he he was just he went on a rotary speech. Just went off and it was it was. It was just horrible and he resigned. Great example of why the future negotiations for. Cba are going to be horrible right. And you're talking. We'll go to break your dear at this rotary club discussing with these guys about. Oh yeah we gotta pay a translator. As i mean just just horrible comments about players that were part of his team and you shouldn't say that about anybody but the ceo. The the mariners has resigned over amid stupid stupid comments made at a rotary club speech about a month ago. Just dumb but the seattle mariners. You get a lot of winds with If you're the opposing team against that team unfortunate for them sports talk seven hundred thousand show certapro painters time. Hey houston you can look forward to beautiful days ahead. That weather is behind us but maybe it affected you paint job certapro. Painters can handle your paint project. 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The Chris and Joe Show: Philadelphia Eagles Game Film Breakdown

Big Blue View

28:06 min | 5 months ago

The Chris and Joe Show: Philadelphia Eagles Game Film Breakdown

"Podcast listeners we are amazing avenue, the espy nation New York mets site I'm Chris McShane, and every week Brian Salvator, and I discussed the current state of the mets. Automated. Avenue audio the show we try to look at the mets from a somewhat logical point of view and not get too deep into panic city. We also answer your emails give weekly music recommendations and try not to get too frustrated with the team. You can find the show on Apple podcasts on stitcher on spotify wherever you get your podcasts and let's go mets. Listening to the Chris and Joe. Show. On Your radio, your go-to source for New York giants analysis. Talk. His Story. Welcome back to the next episode of the Christian Joe. Show presented to you by SP nation and Biglou View I. Am Joe Leone joined by Chris. FLOM. Providing you with our film breakdown as we typically do on Tuesdays with a normal week we've had a few days to digest the film take a step back unlike which we typically have. Usually, we'll watch the game the next day on Monday in preparation for recording but we had a few days to separate ourselves from the performance on. Thursday, think of it in a different perspective and break down some of the various things that might have held the giants back as well as. Some things that worked well over although we've got a lot of breakdown on this giants loss to the Philadelphia Eagles a very narrow game that we were all pretty justifiably frustrated by their inability to close out in win a game that they were leading by eleven points with five minutes to go before we get into that stuff though we want to talk about the trade that happened on Friday. Marcus golden the edge rusher for the giants number forty four was traded to the Arizona cardinals for a late round draft pick and you might be wondering well, what what are you really get out of this if you're trading this guy? Golden for a late round draft pick who had ten sacks last season is it really worth it considering the fact that he was barely playing even with Lorenzo Carter injury this is a pretty good deal. They have no tie into golden whatsoever and you're getting a small return. This is a deal that any general manager should make if they're offered it yet I really think that was it the marcus golden yet despite all did to keep him around really didn't seem to be in their plans for the future and honestly not for the present. So they they had to get something for him, which is better than him just riding the bench and also the giants did sign Djibril sheared outside linebacker of formerly of a lot of teams most recently the colts. Yeah. They were able to make that swap here. So you do in bringing in another veteran player probably not as talented as golden nonetheless though a strong deal that nets them some return and having him. Likely leave in free agency this upcoming year you might as well make that trade in pull the trigger. So Golden, no longer with the team, the trade deadline is slowly approaching. We could see some more moves as many expected giants to be sellers at the trade deadline. We'll see what ends up happening with that we promise if any trades do go down, we will be providing reactions and breakdowns on any moves that possibly happen. Within the near future getting into the film and breaking down what we saw we have to first address. What happened with Andrew Thomas in this game? It was not I don't want to say. Far and away his worst game. Chris but it definitely was not a game that he played very well, he made a lot of mistakes. He had some decent plays, but he made a lot of mistakes that led to some unnecessary pressures on Daniel Jones yet I. I would say this is probably some tape he wants to burn I kind of hope he doesn't because. There were a lot of issues that showed up on his tape that he really needs to correct. I'm not sure which is the biggest right now probably, the fact that he's leaving himself open to inside moves and the shortest distance between any two points is a straight line, and if you can give up the inside path to the quarterback, dat is almost a cardinal sin for an offensive tackle. For me the one thing that just kept frustrating the hell out of me while I was watching him is that the blatant over setting that he was doing typically when you are a playing tackle in your in pass protection situation, you are asked to kick set which just basically means. You're expected to keep your center of gravity low you're expected to. Push off of your front foot and gather with your back foot while at the same time recognizing what the defender in front of you is doing. So early in the game whoever he was facing it was it wasn't the same guy every single time but early in the game, there were reps where he was instead of coming back more. He was stepping very wide to the left leaving a wide open lane between him and we'll Hernandez eventually wants defenders on the Eagles defensive. Line. Realized what? He was doing they started baiting him into doing that there was some place where he didn't even he didn't even overset, but he was still baited into doing it leaving a wide open lane up the middle. Those are mistakes that you can't make, and understandably Thomas is a rookie. So we're going to give him a little bit more leeway than you typically would with another player but those are mistakes that are easily correctable. He needs to fix them and it was so glaring in this game. That I it just it becomes more and more frustrating the more obvious it is. Yet. It almost looked like Thomas was. Either afraid of getting beat to the outside. Or possibly overcompensating for. The wide nine, the nine technique edge rushers eagles like to use and granted Derek Barnett and sweat are very athletic rushers. But I don't think Thomas had to sell out quite like he did to set that overset that far to the left. But they're also quite a few other problems I noticed He was having a lot of trouble with his hands, which is something Marc. Colombo has brought up going back to training camp that he he hit the accuracy of his strikes is just lacking and there were times where I saw him get his hands up about where they should be but just have them out wide, which just gives up his chest plate negate the length advantage that his long arms give him. So let's defenders get in. Let's defenders get control of him and we saw that other times his hands are low, which again, it gives up his length in leverage advantage other times instead of. Staying, back in his stanton keeping good pad level. He would lunge at defenders and. Really just. Almost trying to throw his entire body into the punch and just made it entirely too easy and then again, you talked about the over setting. Make it making it just way too easy for these edge rusher, stick it a path into the bathroom through the gap. It's really depressing for me Chris that. We have to use Air Eric Flowers as the. Precedent for bad left tackles of recent memory. But the way that I look at this with Andrew Thomas as we're pointing out his mistakes. He is at least making mistakes that are correctable. He knows what he's doing for the most part. He's misfiring like you said with his hands that something that is just gonNa come with continuous repetition he's going to need to put that work in that's on him to do that we we can point out all these issues and Marc Colombo can point out the issues to him and try and coach him up. But if he puts in the time to correct them, that is entirely on him. So we could see a progression towards the end of the year and also into next year of cleaning those things up it's not like with Eric Flowers where. We. Would watch him have no clue what he was doing also not really much of an understanding of how to play the tackle position to the point where he was tripping people. So at the very least and I know it sucks that I'm trying to use Eric flowers as the comparison of well at least he's not Eric Flowers but at least he has a grip on the position and he's just struggling with a couple of things and he's getting beat by fast offenders like some rookies tend to do it. I'd rather have Andrew Thomas than. Eric Flowers. I suppose that's not exactly a I don't think that's where the giants and giants fans hoped they would be when they selected Thomas? Roy? Road? But I would say the giants definitely need to see some growth from him over the remainder of the season if they don't then maybe they need to start thinking about contingencies because they can't let Thomas go the way of flowers. If. Anything. Perhaps they should consider moving him inside the guard if we keep seeing these same mistakes showing up again and again where. Maybe he's over setting worrying too much about his feet and losing his hand technique. Put Him someplace where his length and size in his strength can be emphasized end. Maybe doesn't have to worry about. Trying to keep up with edge defenders in space out on an island I will say just with Eric Flowers he did improve once he finally got moved inside to guard which honestly surprised me I didn't think that would be a good move for him, but it worked out fairly well for Washington last year and it seems to be working out. Okay. For Miami this year. So maybe that's something the giants. Will have to consider if Thomas doesn't show improvement by the end of the year and I think that solution is a bit more of the not the extreme. But if he's really struggling, then that's I would keep that with in the realm of possibilities but the continued -tingency that I came up with pitched. Brought up on this show. But most recently after this game I brought it up on. Ed's show mountain views, Valentine's views, and my point is that I think what we've seen so far in might be better to use him at right tackle typically right tackles are better run blockers. They're not always tasked with facing against the most athletic pass rushers. We saw parrot look really fluid and. quick-footed despite not really having any reps to get acclimated. It might be better to swap the to let pair play, left tackle and let Andrew Thomas play right tackle just based on their skill set i. think that would probably be the first step forward in seeing. If that would work, and then if at that point he's still struggling at right tackle then you may be try pushing him into guard. Yeah. I I think it's almost need to keep all options open at point just because of the investment in him, they can't afford to give up early they have to try everything they can before they either trade him or let him go. They have to give him every opportunity to succeed, and maybe that's not fair to a late round pick or a UDF who is just fighting to stay on the fringe of the roster every day. But when you have somebody drafted it in the top five. That's just too much investment to let go to waste. Yeah. One hundred, percent the the other thing too that I really wanNA point out offensively. And we we talked about a lot of giants fans were upset with Evan Ingram's performance in the game but I just want to point out how I really can't figure out what their goal is with Ingram, how they want to use him because they're using him like a really big running back and I I tweeted this out and somebody tried to correct me and say, Oh, just say fullback but they're not even using him like a fullback if they were using him like a fullback would be using him to block. But instead what they're doing is they're putting him in the backfield they're running screens with him out of the backfield they're giving him handoffs, they're trying to run these misdirection motion. Pop. Pass plays and none of them are working because that's not what Evan Ingram skillset is and I know this is going to be A. Bit of an odd poll Chris but if you look back to when Evan Ingram was most successful, it was under Ben mcadoo and you know what? Ben mcadoo did instead of running all the things that we've seen pat, Shurmur and Jason. Garrett run with him. He used him as the matchup the mismatch. With linebackers and also would safeties by trying to stretch the field with him, use them across the middle of the field instead of asking him to make contested tough catches. He's capable of doing I. Don't understand why they're not trying to use it like that because if they could if they were doing it more often I think he'd be making more plays I I agree and thinking back to Ingram's rookie season that stick nod route he ran was basically unstoppable. He was joking linebackers out of their out of their cleats like they had no hope against him and too for safety's. Too quick to athletic for linebackers. And unfortunately, for the last three years, we have basically just seen him running three to five yard routes. Or getting the ball behind the line of scrimmage and having to make. Five defenders miss it really is weird. The way the giants use him. Maybe, it's the organizational philosophy that led to the team hiring Pat Shurmur and hiring Jason Garrett and Fergie Kitchens who have a very similar tight end. In David Joko. A Guy, a lot of giants fans thought the giants we're going to. And really joke who had a lot of the same usage and issues under Freddie Kitchens. So it's it almost seems like the giants don't want to get coaches who could use anger on the way he should be used. In the sad thing is there's a strong likelihood at this point that Ingram might not have entirely a ton of time left with the giants and right now it doesn't seem like there's much of trade market for him. But as his contract is reaching the end, his rookie deal is reaching the end. We might not actually get to see that original glimpse of talent. We saw from him in his rookie year then it has been. Not, entirely downhill but he's not performed at the level that we have always expected him to in the level that we have talked him up to it's been. Disappointing over the past few seasons, we're going to discuss some of the defensive takeaways don't go anywhere. We will be right back. This is advertiser content. We now have two point, three million people incarcerated in America less than seven percent of them are incarcerated for violent crime. That's attorney Geoffrey Robinson Director of the ACLU Tron Center for Justice and Equality His work inspired the making of who we are a podcast by Ben and Jerry's and produced by vox creative who we are a chronicle of racism in America is hosted by peabody award winning journalist Carville Wallace. Shirley you knew this was a racist country. What does that mean for us today? The prison population in the United States has increased seven hundred percent since nineteen seventy. Lack Americans make up almost forty percent it. 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State farm is the real deal when it comes to home and car insurance state farm agents are always ready to help you personalize your insurance plan. You can create a policy that fits your needs. You can manage your coverage, pay your bill or even file a claim right from your phone with the state farm mobile APP, and you can always call one of the state farm agents in neighborhoods across the country. Get a great rate without sacrificing great service when you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm is there. Chris this defensive lines performance as we would have expected going against a make shift offensive line was very, very good. Day We're creating a lot of pressures they had good sack production and they could have had more had carson Wentz not successfully throwing the ball away on a number of occasions there were at least two to three times in the first half alone. Where I noticed that Wentz through out of a sack and it didn't count as a sack but the bigger issue with this though is that. The defensive line played played well and made up for some of the deficiencies in the secondary. The Eagles were able to move the ball down the field because of Patrick grams commitment to running zone. It was a lot of cover three, cover four, not a lot of variation in zone that we were seeing in that helped. Carson Wentz Doug Peterson find those gaps to complete a lot of their passes and get the ball out quickly yet the giants were for whatever reason and we can speculate on it. Maybe it had to do with not having darn homes and Adrian Colbert Having to play more nate abner in Corey Balentine for whatever reason, the giants were just living in cover three and cover four defenses zone defenses. And a Lotta Times, they would start the play showing one and then rotate to another either way the eagles had figured out. They were able to find the voids in those coverages and the giants secondary really wasn't executing them really all that well, yeah and all those gaps that were created by consistently running the same zone coverage just made it. So easy for Peterson and went to quickly figure out are we can hit these quick hitch routes or comebacks in these small gaps in the zone they also were pushing towards the sideline as you might recall towards the end of the game that big play completed the hightower was along the sideline so they were trying to find. Pretty much all of their passes in the gaps of the cover three and cover for that Patrick. Graham was was running and it was almost like if you're not gonNA stop these plays, we're gonNA keep running them. We're GONNA keep running the same stuff until you decide to stop running the same coverages over and over again and. Really. Make It easy for Doug Peterson Carson wentz to call the plays to beat their coverages. They made it really just pretty easy for Carson wentz to look downfield. His average pass was a little over nine yards in the air. When you do that when you give up chunk yardage like that, it makes it too easy for the offense to move the ball and the giants just gave the Eagles Way too many chances that rather than trying to close down or close those passing windows they left them wide open all game long and ultimately that's what bit them last just to to wrap us up, we have to point out. The collapse that happened in the final two defensive drives of this game because we can acknowledge all of the positive things. That this giants defense did throughout the game they the first three quarters and a half they looked really good. They made a lot of good plays. They pressured Carson. Wentz, like they needed to. They knew that if they could hit home early on, they could him to make some really poor decisions. That led to an interception because he was so desperate to not take another sack. A lot of those plays were really good early on in the game but final two drives, the defense completely fell apart. It was not the same quality of defense that we saw for the entirety of the game leading up, and you can point to possibly being complacency you can maybe. Point to that, they were assuming that the game was was one and it was already done that they didn't do anything else. They just needed to let the clock run out with five minutes to go but that's not the case you can't have that. You just need you need to finish games and that is something that we always talk about but we saw it in the worst possible extent that they didn't finish. Yeah I'm not sure how much more the giants could have not finished this game. Unless without becoming the Atlanta Falcons sorry I had to get that dig in there just because. Following the. Way Indiana came back and beat Penn state for anyone who happened to be watching college football on Saturday that was insane, and then the lions basically doing the same thing to the Falcons very next day. That's not finishing, but the giants came about as close as they could to that starting at six minutes to the end of the game. Native Noor actually made a play standing one spot Carson Wentz didn't see him at all in md knocked down a ball than the giants negated as Bj Hill sack with a penalty by Ryan. Lewis gave up almost sixty yards that depressed. To hightower giant had another penalty for too many men on the field, gave up a six yard run to Boston Scott than touchdown. Then we had the giants final real drive, and before the Evan Ingram play the giants just completely failed to be able to run the ball they had to good runs and then three yards no yards set them up with a third and seven. And then they had the penalty by core balentine on the ensuing punt than they gave up eleven yards to the through the rogers than thirty yards through the air to rogers than James. Bradbury had the past the pass interference penalty. than the giants made a really weird decision on run up the middle by Boston Scott and played a one down lineman dime package out. This was with a twenty one still to go and the eagles still had to timeouts and the giants. Made really no effort to defend the run and that wound up being twelve yards. So it's At the end of the game, it's the giants. I. If they just completely lost their composure they I don't know if they got cocky I don't know if they got overwhelmed if just as a team, they haven't really figured out how to close out games when yet but whatever it was. Just about everything that could go wrong for them went wrong and. That's the perfect way to describe it. All that stuff that you just highlighted right there. It was every single thing. They could have possibly gone wrong on that play it was every or not on that play on that on both of those drives at the end of the game. Every single one of those plays was a not only a mistake but not all of them but there were mistakes that happened in that period of time that allowed the Eagles to get back into the game. They needed to be clean on. A number of those important place and they just were unable to make plays and finish the the way that they needed to, and that was really why I think so many people were frustrated is because everything not only fell apart in the fashion that it fell apart is why we were also shocked by the outcome that it it came down to that despite the giants leading by eleven points. Yeah Wet. When the giants gave the ball back to the eagles with a little over six minutes left in the game they had about ninety percent ninety, three percent chance of winning the game going by a win probability. And somehow they lost yet that doesn't happen off of one play or even one series. That is really a team failure and I think more than anything that is the frustrating thing out of all of this is that they just keep finding ways to lose. That's going to be it from US folks. Hopefully. This upcoming week, the giants can. Turn things around albeit it's going to be difficult match up on Monday night football facing off against Tampa Bay top obey rather top brady however you WanNa say it. Tom Brady is going to be facing off against the giants yet again. So we'll see how that game turns out another primetime game for us, of course. Be Sure to follow us on social media at Big Blue View. Also follow us Euphemia Jody Leoni Paul Chris at Raptor MK I. Also go to our website Biglou, dot com, and also our youtube channel subscribed to that That is just big blue view search that up for more amazing giants content. 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Best of The Herd: 10/25/2019

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

40:53 min | 1 year ago

Best of The Herd: 10/25/2019

"What's up I'm willful in from thrill us with some amazing podcast news we just launched our very first podcast guerrillas best and the rest every you can hear me and my amazingly talented colleagues talk about the best of the best in food drink travel and entertainment from the scariest movie of all time to the best hangover overthinking didn't feel goal in the second half was he overcompensating you know and I know hardens off a terrible first game is going make sure adamantly he has a great second game then Russell Westbrook perhaps overcompensate backs off listen relationships are really important in the end Oh guys who are known for scoring trophies MVP's style fashion this is going to be tough Exports Radio Oh here we go into Friday we are absolutely packed this live in l. a. is the her mellow his mirror existence he was an agitator wouldn't play Defense Chauncey billups the ultimate lubricate or not a great player way they lost does jaanus fouled out best defensive player in the league at home their offense disintegrated James Harden was he enj- okay they weren't five hundred million two hundred million net worth guys they weren't six homes guys they weren't mvp guys they are now ever meet each other they one bad guys here one bad guys but if you had a company of nine people and they all worked in the same space this is going to be tough and chemistry and Houston is not good don't listen to anybody this is an organization that claimed we're never trading Chris Paul those are thanks for listening to the best of heard podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio NFS one find your local station both ball centric high usage one and two in the league the other thing is when they used to play together they didn't have all this money and we all ace one bad egg one bad relationship blows it up that's why I've always said in the NBA chemistry is so crucial in the NBA Ba? That's why I've always said one of the great gifts of Magic Johnson who you just on undisputed or Lebron they're great lubricates Lebron gets along with people magic active but but I will say butts good boxer good let me start with this if you had a company of three thousand people and every team he goes to got better harden and Westbrook is going to be problematic first of all their styles don't Mesh they don't Mesh different campuses you had some of them in Charlotte some of them in Rhode Island some in Chicago some in Phoenix some in Idaho you have thirty bad employees and they made it the hurt Fox sports radio dot com or stream it live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching heard is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on -rageous rumors please last night harden Westbrook early on barking now that's just one instance it's not the end of the world it doesn't really matter but the seven weeks six winners on fire love my Pex a couple you won't believe but I love my picks week and Joy Taylor is wherever you may be and however you may be listening we're on Iheartradio Fox sports radio on fast one in one hour from now by blazing five picks everybody work the you know Kareem was kind of prickly and magic was fun and James Worthy was a little ball and magic made it all work it's Brooke it's one game is already getting defensive on the whole Harden Westbrook thing that maintenance Uber cater as a teammate in hardened similarly is not easy he's an MVP every year think he's GonNa now Alpha terrible first game say you know what I can make this thing work no he's going to say I gotTa Make James Harden work so I don't think it works Janas fouled out and Houston was still against the third fourth of six best player Milwaukee had couldn't score now Russell Westbrook and again they're overcompensating rush broke everybody that plays with him that leaves gets better doesn't mean he's a bad guy doesn't mean he's a bad player but he's an agitator not working when we suggested Chris Paul needed to be traded he'll never be traded they traded him they're going to protect those two they got tickets to sell don't don't don't jive too much into it I got told you there's nothing nobody around the world media anybody joining me on a night Houston had it and lost it it must have been painful I is it wasn't fun game I'm not going to be environment matters like when I grew up the scariest movie I saw was exorcist and then it was the shining if you watch those at night about it why would you get this agitated game one with your best friend doesn't that seem a little intense for really good friends because they can feel the pressure and I like Houston don't care they won last night you know I always feel like kirk cousins the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings has a lot in common with scary movies. Let's move to this the Vikings beat the redskins nineteen to nine and I don't trust Minnesota what so ever not a bit it's actually funny you're like this is screwy the environment changes how scary the shining is it's not credibly rough for the organization but last night is exactly what I thought a little ugliness they're overcompensating it doesn't eight and it's rainy and you're by yourself an ear in a room and it's just you it's terrifying he can Houston's at transient sports town the Texans are good the astros are good they got tickets to sell they wanna make this thing optically work off the NBA China thing that was in coach all of that Minnesota town again a great roster absolutely but this is the Minnesota team people have been telling me the great roster for three to four years find me Minnesota's great win with Kirk cousins find it for me Oh they tied green bay at Lambeau Aaron wasn't one o'clock start in the end nine thousand nine over awful Washington banged up backup quarterback on the road fired that's scary at one in the afternoon on Sunday Birds Chirping in your door open but at night those twins come around the corner what in Oh lord a Mike Zimmer is conservative by nature Kurt cousins has one bad half and these guys are going to be more here's Kirk it's last night Minnesota didn't punt Washington had to go to a backup quarterback they were at home but sleep at night but if you watch the shining the next day one in the afternoon with the blinds open the lights on with two friends bad team or facing a backup or the minute you make this team uncomfortable last year one in six against playoff teams this year it's Kirk cousins one o'clock at home non playoff team he is unbelievable here's Johnny homeadvisor Titas the owner I love him Darryl Maurice the GM I love him here's the reality when we suggested mellows not gonNa work they told us work collectively but individually Westbrook had some great moments I have hardened had some great moments and they're officially oh and one look and find me impressive win I'm sorry this team is to environment based one o'clock and then beat the Houston Texans that's teddy bridgewater that's Jacoby Brusett Kyle Alan would this roster and these receivers Delvin two zero wins against teams over five hundred and last night was classic primetime game everybody's watching offense didn't punt can be an giving me between where we have because all listen the reality is they know what hovering over they know everybody's talking take a huge sample to figure something out the clippers are going to be really really good just think about this in the NBA now it's the year of the do oh they have the best player collide Lyon I just don't buy them scary movies aren't scary at noon the next day lights on no lightning friends sitting next to you having lunch they're not and the Vikings are not scary in Primetime Games home or away out of the one o'clock window against the Carolina with a backup quarterback Houston of the Colts Jacoby Brusett went to Kansas City and be Patrick mahomes up against a backup that recently fired their coach and they couldn't put them away until the very end couldn't put them away and I'm GonNa tell you what this team is I was hurt and they got a gift call on Clay Matthews I mean the saints this year alone with a backup quarterback to impressive wins at Seattle in Dallas and the saints with a backup prominent San Francisco home in New Orleans Thomasson don't buy back Dallas last week coming out conservative than the Republican convention they are going to just close it down you're gonNA have no offense and when you're in a conference now where you got Green Bay Hamad a seven and two team a twelve and four team not scary at all be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific maybe the best dual and three through twelve not a GM in the league would argue clippers have the best three to twelve roster so they got the best but you play m night game like last night against the good playoff team against a real pass rush and you get here dominate and he wears new balance shoes and I'm in my fifties and I don't even wear new balance shoes yet I get it I get the clippers history is hard to embrace if you will and last night they opened the golden state new arena and the clippers destroyed them and this is who they are I know it's a small sample but it doesn't in the playoffs stop it already. I saw Janas marginalized by Kawhi Leonard He's the best player in the League and he is the most impactful and class plus the hottest podcast of the last year like the Ron Burgundy podcast disgrace link and monster the Zodiac killer not only does iheartradio produced some of the most popular on Fox Sports Radio One and the iheartradio APP iheartradio brings us some of the biggest podcasts of all time like stuff you should know and stuff you missed in history roster and one of the best coaches in I'd argue top-five owner and I'd argue a top three scouting department put your arms around it have the three through twelve and a Great Hall of fame coach Let's just just I know it's hard to embrace the best player in the game and he's the most impactful range jumper new balance shoes weird laugh doesn't need the ball to dominate this is the best player probably the best duo easily the best fire I believe they have maybe the best duo because I do think Lebron Eighty or better individual talents but collectively won't be as good as Paul George Colli Afford Roger Staubach a lot of dynasties you can see come and showtime Laker Shack in Kobe I mean you could see Dwayne Wade Lebron James Pat Riley the these are easy to see Shaq and Kobe was easy to see the Lakers had a history of putting in great teams you could see their talent you're like hey go in bunch tiles you gotta get over it now I understand because of the clippers history which is losing and because coli is boring that's not what we're used to we're used to 'em in a star driven flashy league he's like a dependable thirty two mile a gallon car that architect building Chris Bosh comes over you knew they were going to be really good you knew when durant joined clan Steph that's the easy one this one's harder Philadelphia's going into buffalo this week and they're going to win they're going to win I like Philadelphia too much structurally who was cool and hip and the dress and the shoes and the smile and the the cheekbones it was perfect right as Kobe's flashy and shack podcast in the world but now the free iheartradio APP is the fastest growing APP for listening to your favorite podcasts over two hundred eighty thousand podcasts all easy to find the owner of the general manager Howie Roseman but coached the quarterback I liked their structure I do not believe Philadelphia season is over they don't make a move at the trading deadline quarterback I don't take him seriously so the twelve teams twelve playoff spots here's the fifteen teams I like in the say this I love Greg Cosell and Greg Cosell never does this any ripped two days ago excuse me yesterday coli is hard to put your arms around he's the best player this is the best roster and I think it's the best duo here's your next dynasty a lot of times diners Lebron's too old camp lay defense he got tired and game one steps to small doesn't play defense hardens of one quarter of the side of the court guy and I saw Janas go up against and free to listen to on the APP anytime iheartradio Dot com the clippers just beat Lebron and ad right in the Lakers build week eight I do not believe a buffalo bills team whose quarterback has seventy seven picks is going to end their season. I don't believe like what you're watching right now this is Paul George isn't even playing ball Georgia named plan they didn't have quite last year that one forty eight and gave the warriors education bird a male at nicknames and coli got a mid range jumper and he's really efficient and he doesn't really need the ball okay they got humiliated by the cowboys it's one of those big national TV Games and everybody now is selling all their stock and then they go doc and they cannot cover so now what happens is it's Carson you go fix it and the thing is when there's a certain kind of player he's not a pinpoint drew brees Bang Bang Bang never breaks down it's just they're great they're just GonNa be great you're just not used to be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays a quarterback is becomes magnified as he missed a throw he's not very good I can't sell this stock yet I'm giving them one more Sunday Philadel- I don't know how how women think but I'll tell you when I used to be when I met my wife there was a lot of structure she had good kid she structure person and if you don't have structure in your life is chaotic and it's mayhem I don't care when you went to college I don't care I'll perfect cheekbones are I don't Care Mr Nine. Am Pacific well teams make the playoffs six in the AFC and then six in the NFC and if now I think that in the Locker Room I've heard it but I've heard it before in Philadelphia it's a chip on your shoulder town it's kind of a loud verbal town guys talk a lot of trash a soda they get embarrassed in Dallas get embarrassed and I hear about the locker room stuff but when I liked the structure of a company it's Hard L. Fia Colin come on there my ex and she poured bleach and my plants and she cheated on me and ruined my you know hit five yard six yards seven yards eight yards and just marched down the field so therefore they're very limited offensively so if he misses one and he'll miss a few because that's the kind of is what the Eagles are it's a team that is among the slowest in the League on offense they have no speed at the receiver position on defense they cannot rush the quarterback Aikman Emmitt Smith Jimmy Johnson the cowboys the big coach the big they looked he looked like an NFL head coach he looked like a hall of fame quarterback Emmett Smith Defense and it had dynasties the structure is too good to bail I know that she ruined my credit I know that she didn't get along with any of my friends I know it but there's something there with Philadelphia they're going to go into buffalo and they're going to win convinced are twelve spots available and I think it's really fifteen teams vying for them what about the raiders come on they been outscored forty points they've been blown out three times what about the bears affairs GonNa go in there and win and I think they have a chance to win impressively every week in this league there is a game and we go what the hell this is going to be the what the Tapie problems but your arms around it this is the next dynasty there just called the clippers and they're starting to talk go seattle the rams than the Saints Carolina Green Bay Minnesota Dallas and Philadelphia. But YOU'RE GONNA you're GonNa say Colin fell Friday morning I get up and I'm like a can do it it's the Cleveland getting a bunch of points against New England and I all week long I thought Okay Short Week Patriots cure ever listened to thrill us best and the rest on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts you know basically everywhere anywhere you can find podcasts Singley one more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP search her to listen live or on demand whenever you have see New England and Buffalo or for Real Baltimore than its Indy Houston I buy in Kansas City in the NFC. It's you know in the West San Francis- came from a good family she was nice I thought she was bright and the structure is like I like that you can be this and you can be that Henry talks about guaranteeing we win and I thought God Godkin eight here's the thing about Cleveland I was pretty hard on Baker Mayfield the other day for me to move off it that that that's just why if I like the owner the GM the coach and the quarterback I can overlook a lot it's almost like offer by Cleveland Cleveland going to be good and then Baker started ripping the refs from two weeks ago and oh BJ started making Tom Brady goat shoes and then Jarvis it's some point you'll unravel philadelphia maybe they're gonNA unravel this week at Orlando scandal is going to be our show next hour and he's as I've heard a lot of this stuff keep the bills have beaten the jets beaten the giants they beat Miami they'd Beaten Cincinnati beaten Tennessee this is easily the best team they faced now up but she looks at me with those sad eyes and says nice things and you just WanNa go on one more date right I was a game I did not put it in the blazing five it's on my Saturday podcast with Rj Bell it'll be our bonus pick there's a game every week just sit on and on and on and then Thursday night Saturday exactly forget me forget take me out of it you're becoming exactly what everybody predicted talented fund maybe I was too hard I call him a goof maybe that's too much right I'm old he's young kid but Cleveland just admit this you are becoming four football team here's what we know about football coaching is huge it's huge like in major league baseball who live close to each other they're able to talk with each other and be with each other and that's what you and Mr Rogers Sideways Football is the coaching sport and you gave a position coach the head coaching job of the youngest loud oh about your neighbors what they want who do they love are they good neighbors to you are you a good neighbor to them neighbors are people it's really remarkable just say this out loud recently fire GM with a lot of bravado cocky second year Hyphen New England is given this league a blueprint never ever talk about stuff that happened yesterday ever just the plan what's amazing about Cleveland and I am shocked by the number of forget fans media people that bought into this back with a lot of bravado superstar wide receiver who acknowledges he lives in Hollywood and wanted to play with Brady comes to Cleveland the youngest roster in the NFL and a rookie head coach who's never been hired as a coordinator by a team that sound like a twelve and the the this is all incredibly predictable by the way Baltimore similarly has a very young quarterback who's not cocky wallace host of a new podcast called finding Fred from fatherly and transmitter media I'm curious about how the spirit of Mr the energy who's not cocky and coach that's experienced shocking they lead the division and don't say a word game the game be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio One and the iheartradio APP what are you invited each of us to be his neighbor and his neighborhood we learned how to be kind how to respect each other he told us he liked us just the way we are the ever I got Baker Rippin refs I got ob Jay talking about his love for Brady and I think Jarvis Landry is a good kid but he probably should have just said next rape manager when j five games a year there's one hundred sixty two in the NBA Brad Stevens is a fine coach if the star doesn't like you the season code and if you ever do anything to talk about an opponent say how great they are you know this week bell checks myles Garrett Unblock -able wish we didn't have I was just reading a story yesterday they're freaking out in New York why didn't the mets higher Joe Girardi what's it matter the front office gives the manager of the lineup breath I get all the affiliates stuff the sales stuff the bosses stuff the topics I should shouldn't talk about he's learning on the job not a great time to face bill ballot check I most Dysfunctional Organization for twenty five years in the League and I will say this about Freddie Kitchens I like him I think he is a little over his skis but like all the before I'd never done it I was bailing a lot of water for about six weeks to six months then you're like okay I get the temple of it I get the all the nonsense you have to there's neighborhood can help us figure out how to be good neighbors in a world that so often seems chaotic and violent and divided at you have lots of neighbors that you and by the Eagles and had some pointed comments this morning on undisputed Malcolm Jenkins has fired back at him on twitter so I wanNA bring him on with check out finding Fred on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you listen Orlando Philadelphia Eagles a team I like structurally but I can't get my arms around what the Hell's wrong with the eagles this year I've been wrong on them all year he was just released us in life he took a job he's not quite ready for when I first took a syndicated radio job you like like like fifteen years ago I six months I wasn't quite ready for it I'd Never Malcolm Jenkins on your comments this morning I could give to blanks about people who aren't here he says for us to move on as a team we can't have blank blank irs like that do I think you know he was a very good player I said three weeks ago to one of the guys on our staff who's a Philadelphia Eagle Diehard Sam I said what happened Malcolm Jenkins selfishness agent as well so let's start with this you have some opinions about Malcolm Jenkins I just want to read this what I can read on the Air Orlando a what I'm allowed to read according to the FCC I think it's a defense mechanism I didn't speak anything but the truth asked me a question on I think that when you're a leader you lead but clearly what do you mean selfishness when you have a job to do and you don't do it and you know that it's supposed to be done what what's the other reason that you have not done it you think he's a selfish player and we can just look at the Minnesota game I mean we're planning half coverage you know he's not over the top we get beat seventy yard touchdown the scandal has played in the NFL for twelve years he was on that Kansas City team against New England last year was on the cowboys for years he was on the leader Steph Curry I like the organization but I'm hearing all this guys don't show up for meetings guys are late was it that bad I mean accountability starts at the top is continually trying to improve I think he's going to get better and better with time reps but why do I always hear quote some guys preferred Nick foles some guys don't in a twelve year Boise State Cowboys Chiefs Eagles Orlando Scandal is now joining us in the hurt on a Friday twelve years should be noted a current free pressing to make plays for yourself that's a selfish act what's wrong with their locker room lane Johnson guys are missing meetings I love the so you'd say it was a lie I'm not even GonNa talk about it but if I struck a nerve than what would you do back here I said three weeks ago about Malcolm Jenkins I like how we Roseman I think he's smart Doug Peterson Carson Wentz his talented I generally the first thing I look at in sports I like the warriors because I like their GM their coach in some cases seventy nine did you guys struggle to get along initially or was it something I just don't even think I ever had a connection I mean I didn't have much of a connection with a lot of people on that team now and you know you think he's a selfish player and you by the way I think those are selfish acts I don't I don't know if he's selfish not haven't played with them enough but I know he is like when you start in the room why do you think he why did your comment bother him so much what did you say what bothered him I think is a defenseman pulled up just some defensive players that I did have connections with like Russell Douglas Brandon Graham Vinnie. I don't know I mean I've never had a problem with jinx but I- sounds like he's making it personally if I if I tell you to go take the trash out in you throw more trash away and you don't do it was the reasoning for you not know how to give me a specific example Iranian like him who were the some guys I don't know as Malcolm he got answers so you guys have it this is a real thing you're not you're just you're not a fan of his he's not a fan like my point man proven everything about that shows you that everything going on outside of that locker room is still bothering them and if I came here and accused you of something and it wasn't gigs and it's just oh okay jinx in what happened you know it's okay you're good player you've been a good player you can do it it's okay you know it's okay get you eight can turn it around or do you think these are do you think the chemistry's lost that it's become a selfish locker room I don't I wouldn't say a selfish locker room I think doesn't care about your problems in other ten percent they're happy you have them it's interesting because I want to talk about two other stops let's talk about the Dallas I went to that team because of the Sean Jackson like I love him like brother I think had more of a connection with offensive players I did defensive players but I also think there was you made a mistake why I don't know I think that I just thought in my mind that maybe it was time to move on maybe the grass was greener when you know privilege let it pass by why does Carson Wentz get the heat is at

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At the Podium: "Scramdrick", Mailbag & Pressers

"In Sixty two games long and there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness you could ever want and make sure to check out our other hey there podcast pals I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hidden season one of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation look the baseball season is has issues with this team for sure he has issues with this team and you know are the Eagles having trouble dealing with success they are do some players prefer nick foles over having trouble handling winning and he's talking about winning the two thousand seventeen super bowl they they have had a hard time it seems getting back to that level they we all know kind of through alshon Jeffery as the name for the anonymous source of Anderson is that was was made that maybe not correct you know I mean it certainly seems like Orlando scandic on the record as opposed to the off the record person that I talked to before but if you do an advanced twitter search on juicy Anderson's Twitter and Orlando scandic you will find that ex-communists where a tweet of his comments and she added quote on record and I just wondered what she was implying there you know could she could be saying well listen here's somebody the eagles are at the podium and we've got it all for you right here powered by SP nation and weeding green nation DOT com. I'm your host John Stolnis you can follow me on twitter there has been a lot of breaking news involving Orlando scandic that was broken by Josina Anderson so just throwing that out there everybody I mean I think Howard Eskin would make the playoffs last year and won a playoff game but it was a real struggle and this year they're three and four to start the season and maybe the mindset of some of the players seems to be that they're a super bowl team at John stolnis coming up we're going to hear from Doug Peterson I'm going to give you my prediction on that game coming up here in just a second as well and we're going to open up the mailbag here I guess I'll be stepping you think do but this whole thing is a scam do you guys all realize that that this whole thing is a scam that went on on Friday afternoon here but with Orlando going on that you hit but they hit on most of the major points and so I'm going to let you know I'll let them I agree with just about everything they had to say you know Kinda low class you know as soon as you leave it team you go out and you trash it but of course skeptic is her you know how he roseman cut him because he wasn't productive but for in scandalous is he seems to think that he'd been playing some pretty team and eventually they're just going to turn it around and you're just a couple of small things away but you know we came into the season thinking the same thing that this was a super bowl contender and they have come far from Lang like it I do think Josefina Anderson's tweet about skeptics comments I'll go back to calling him skander because I sound like an idiot if I keep calling him scattered Josephina Anderson's tweet about scandal the podium to answer just a couple of twitter questions just a few minutes but before we get to all that let's go over this Orlando Scammed Rick stuff and I'm calling mamand scammed rick I know that it's kind of a talk radio a highly recommended you've probably already listened to it at this point but b. l. and Jimmy Kamsky chatted about it with an emergency Orlando Scam Dick BGN radio podcasts that you're GonNa WanNa make sure and went yeah I think they probably do but that ain't news we've known that coming in that's why I hated the foles shrine last year why I didn't think the full shrine was funny last year S. One and and bashing Howie Roseman and Malcolm Jenkins and talking about how the teams having having trouble with winning and listen there's darn good football and that he's been a scapegoat for everything so you know you know all that nonsense you get it you know I I do think there is some some truth to what he had to say about this team is a little bit of a story there is some truth and there is certainly some truth in what scammed had to say but if you want to hear if you want to hear some some good thoughts on his initial comments I because there were people in the locker room that prefer foles over once which makes things incredibly uncomfortable for whence especially when you know that he is the future one of the things that are does set in that first interview with skip and with Shannon was that this team does recognize this is Carson Wentz his team and Nick foles is not coming back through that you're so I don't care what Nick foles did in an eagles uniform while he was here he yanked the future this team Carson Wentz Doug Peterson Mike grow have to figure out a way ars waiting for Nick foles to come back it isn't happening but this is clearly a hit and run by a marginal player who played for a division rival has to get Carson Wentz in rhythm these guys have to figure out a way to get this offense moving forward together and it's not going to happen if teammates are continuing to looking looking out the Jenkins was the guy everybody gravitated towards because he is seen as the team leader I think overall is a team captain but he's the guy that everybody goes to and he said flat out we don't need that mother by the way responded to waterland scheduled to say in the locker room after the comments and they made the comments I think after be LG and Jimmy Kamsky recorded their podcast and I up obviously from one guy it's all coming from one Guy Orlando scandal maybe maybe we don't know that for sure but he said it's you know it's Philadelphia I've talked to the field keep happening and maybe that's the larger question we should be talking about are there a lot of larger off the field issues maybe a lot of these issues over the last few weeks for this culture in that locker room and schedule took a shot at Lane Johnson for Johnson's comments after the game on Sunday that some players were late to meetings and all that stuff lane did admit all career the Dallas cowboys and is clearly a malcontent that he got cut by Howie Roseman. I mean this guy doesn't agenda you could see it as plain as day eagles players there's who've come here and it's like we want to be a part of the culture and we want to be a part of what happens here but obviously not everyone is built for it and that could be that seems to be a shot at scandal not being built then when he talked to reporters at practice after practice on Friday that he probably should've kept his mouth shut that he did not say the right thing and he probably shouldn't have said anything at all because he couldn't back it up with this for in the room and he basically said no one there that is in that locker room for three weeks Kim no can know anything about what's happening inside of it on on why the issues off a big example but the eagles are fighting back against scandal here and that's that's what's clear what's also clear is that I think scandic is doing this for a paycheck because not only because you wonder if a loss creates an implosion that reverberates so much that it fractures the locker room I you're almost scared to see what's going Lane Johnson needs to to not talk cryptically he needs to stop laying blame for missed meetings and stuff after he played the worst game of his career right now players from it doesn't sound like it was confined to the field so that's all this was this was a scam this was a chance for him to hit at a team he never liked and that's it and to make money while he's that has people making outrageous statements and claims and and making news with what they have to say in Orlando this is an audition Orlando scandal is auditioning for his next locker room is is talking about it what we don't know is what happens moving forward what happens now Malcolm Jenkinson for the first time since he's been there they had a players only team meeting he's delusional into thinking he's been playing great and that he feels like he's being scapegoated and he wants a career in TV you get what happened on Friday and that's what's going on what happened next if they lose their third straight game on Sunday I mean what would certainly help is a convincing win in buffalo against the bills and it's certainly a game the eagles can in this week and he said I'm not GonNa talk about what was said I think at the end of the day guys in this locker room trust one another and believe in one another this all sets up an incredibly important football game on Sunday at this point on just need to shut up and play and so we kind of know some of the things that are going on here we know what scandic is we we kind of know what he's Angling for we know how the Eagles Polish to lot of things he probably there's probably a personal beef and maybe it's a long standing personal beat between him and Malcolm Jenkins because that's stuff sounds personal doing it to start his next career while he's doing it that's what this was this dude was a longtime cowboy he was upset he still wasn't a cowboy he talked to his former cowboy t on and he started he did his whole spiel there too he's making the TV rounds in on the heard he was asked if he wants to play football again he said Nah I think I'm done with football we'll give you a quick injury update from players from Doug Peterson on Friday none of the players who missed practice this week will play on Sunday which of course means no Desha Jackson Doug on and get into a career on TV he's he's on F s one which is which makes its name being the station that has takes they wanna be the station Super Bowl starts off three and four player start lashing out because they don't know what to do with what they're feeling and when a guy like Orlando scandal that comes in and gets cut and art real quick let's open up the mailbag here and let's go to lenny are at four thirty he asks if Jackson would have had the operation he declined to get mate's leading up to the game if he could play he'd still WanNa be a cowboy he'd WanNa be a cowboy now now look this locker room is clearly clearly frustrated by how they're playing and they're not handling it this is close to getting back and who knows what they do with Sidney Jones whether or not Jones will actually get a snap this week if they're gonNA make him the slot corner or a backup and one of the outside spots forward here but you can look at that thing with hindsight but it's hard to know at the time it's hard to save the doctors are telling you you can get better by rest and Rehab as opposed to a surgery wouldn't he almost be back now at one hundred percent you know it's an open question I think a lot of people think he could have been backed by now you never know how a player's GonNa respond to surgery though and that's actually not even sure when he comes back it'll be one hundred percent so this this is kind of shaping up and looking like a law season for the Sean Jackson I hope that's not the case as we moved banged up linebacking core that also has eljay fort and Zac Brown over the last couple of weeks the team cut them the eagles will get Ronald Darby back this week he thinking that you can get a player back without undergoing surgery you do that because anytime you cut somebody open stuff can go wrong grant he probably would have been fine the vast mature and he said he's another one that's getting close obviously he's been running in progressing we'll see where he's at today with his Rehab hopefully we can get a maybe on the grass next week and see but they don't want to rush him back Carson Wentz is earning that big money deal they need their draft picks to they needed only hit on their draft picks they need them to play pretty quickly that's why are they gonNA whiteside to have put him on a few weeks ago in hindsight yes if he'd had the operation he declined he might be back in one hundred percent by now it's the team is still saying it's turn it around but I don't think anybody's optimistic that that's going to be the case so yes of course that's why the eagles cut eljay four that's one of the reasons they let him go was to get that compensatory lack of production and playing time has has really hurt this team so much it's why miles sanders rough transition as a running back as a runner as a second round pick is already the time the odds are high but even if there's not something life threatening you could get an infection to something can happen that can that can set things back and I know Doug keeps saying that things are going the way they thought so he won't play in Buffalo of automatic clear the concussion protocol and he was back out on the practice field but he's not gonNA play on Sunday No Nigel Brad and once again which is bad news you always want to try to have player avoid getting cut if possible not cut cut from the team cut within the scalpel you don't want that if you if you can avoid it if you're of that particular pick you don't have that young talent right now you have not been able to develop the cornerbacks with some of your early picks the Sidney Jones pick has really hurt this team maybe round draft pick back but you'll I guess we'll see over the next few days between now and the trade deadline if they're willing to sacrifice some of those trade picks to get a player like Robbie Anderson or or law sophy toward a youth movement Jenkins Johnson Brooks Kelsey will be around yes but do you see a youth movement on the horizon with ten draft picks in April obviously yes that's what they want especially now has been so tough and that's why not having a first round pick the year before why drafting a second tight end in Dallas Goddard as talented as he may be may not have been the best utilization should be a full go after a good week of practice Annella jalen mills and Ronald Darby their starters back on the outside and hopefully that will help settle things down sounds like a Khurram stuff because locker rooms are harmonious when teams are winning but when a winning team a team that is perceived to be a winner has expectations to go to the WE'RE GONNA go with the Sean I gotta think they're surprised that it's taking this long and maybe should they should have put him on a few weeks ago I think if they'd have known he was going to be out this long they probably would from the jets and Leonard Williams of the jets defensive tackle the eagles desperately need help at defensive tackle they might need more help at that position than they do wide receiver and career that's what this is so that's not to say there wasn't some truth in what he had to say but this is also a consider the source type situation that he probably much further down the draft at that point there's a real balancing act they obviously do need to get younger and need some of these draft picks two hits and they need to produce your over the next few years for sure Huey P. at fly eagles fly asks could we pull off an Anderson and Williams package of course talking about Robbie Anderson these speed wide receiver side not to go for Robbie Anderson especially if the prices to if it's a three I think they probably make the move regardless because they're going to use one of their top three picks on speed wide receiver anyway so why not why you would opt for the surgery David Thome at D. underscored Tomi asks with how he playing the wind now and win in the future game since two thousand sixteen do you see the eagles shifting the years removed is going to be your fourth string wide receiver and any wide receiver you take in the draft your isn't going to see the field at all so again that's that may not be the right thing to do six and you desperately need some of these draft picks in order to make your team younger as we just talked about and if you if you can't sign one if you if you can't Aaron Bravo fifty-two asks is Nellie our best wide receiver rail real question he's not asking a sarcastic question here asking if Nelson Aguilar's our best receiver get a young guy who is under twenty five who you can probably sign to a longer term deal is just going to be at more money than you than you would if you drafted somebody and that's something they have to consider did he go on the skip and the Shannon Sharpe show undisputed I think is what it is I don't use I don't watch a lot of F s one but then he went on the herd with Colin cowherd later much as they would do to is probably too much and the price would probably be too high for both of those guys so no I don't think package deal is going to work there last thing Erin win you know they're one and a half point underdogs but this is a game the eagles can win and I'm GonNa give you my prediction in just a minute but that's the big question how does the team respond to all of this law I receiver in terms of getting separation we see that we see them getting open down the field is can't catch the ball he's one of the lowest rated wide receivers in all of football across all the these guys to an extension and I don't think they'd WanNa signed Williams to an extension because he's a little bit of an older player just doesn't make any sense for me anyway to try and trade for both of them actions can play a part in the eagles struggling that it may have an effect you don't usually hear that from a coach but he did say that the team has responded well after a lot of distractions I do think that if they strike out with Robbie Anderson that maybe they switched their focus to Leonard Williams but I don't think they're gonNA want sign to expiring contracts I think one is if you're looking at separation ability he's rated by pro football focus as the army by football football outsiders or I'm trying to remember now as the tenth here's the issue with both of these guys they're both on expiring contract so let's let's say you have to give up a two and a four for Anderson and Williams to get both of those players that's too buffalo this Sunday let's take a quick break and when we get back we'll hear from Doug Peterson at the podium baseball truly it is awful I'm phillies writer just include but no Nelson Aguilar as bad as the eagles wide receivers are he's not the best wide receiver on the team. That distinction does still go to alshon Jeffery even though jeffries skill set right now is I don't I don't look at these games on emotion very much I do think this Sunday is an emotion win and I think they get on top early and I think they dominate the buffalo bills in they might just trade a three for Robbie Anderson for this year and just bite the bullet on losing the three and hope one of their compensatory picks they can they can hit on a player there although you know you're way but you really wonder how that Dallas would have gone have got it doesn't fumble the ball on the opening possession and if whence doesn't fumble the ball on the strip sack they hold onto the footballs or it falls instead stats stats together we'll survive whatever baseball can throw at US Hey Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny are because Alshon is going to be back you know that Desha Jackson's going to be back in so if they have Robbie Anderson here again our Theta whiteside now your second round pick that's anecdotes and raw emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning subscribe to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of Breaking News Buffalo Bills this Sunday I'm GonNa say Eagles thirty one buffalo bills thirteen and you know for my pants predictions I have picked the Lions to beat them I pick the Vikings to beat them will join me every week along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discuss all the ways the phillies have hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical head and a neck injury right that he that he suffered so he's technically still in in the protocol until he clears really both both injuries so that's why he metrics but then again so is Matt Collins and so are thankful whiteside for the few amount of snaps that are a whiteside has gotten on the field but no he's not better than Sean Jeffery Alshon Jeffery has grated I think this has got to be a Doug Peterson Carson Wentz week where they dial up a game plan that works I don't know if the eagles are going to take the ball I again that did not work well in Dallas because they fumbled things right now with the eagles to me I think it's a Bilo opportunity I almost see it as a bilo to go to go in on the Eagles and buy them this week I think the eagles will come back think they're better than the bills offense and I think as bad as they have played the eagles offense can put up points on the bills defense which is very good bill has the bills do have a very good defense pretty well here's a wide receiver so far this season but Nelson Aguilar does have more speed than Shani's the you know if he could catch track the ball he'd certainly be the bigger player option bob still dealing with us from soreness thing is with with just to be clear he's unlike mascot fights announcers fleeing the be with early and unfashionable pants that coach where now if you want to college football exactly as seriously as it should be think I think they're gonNA rally around this I think I think they're gonNA rally around the Orlando Scandal stuff I think they're going to rally around Carson Wentz I really do think this team is going to put a hurting on the the sean is still working in conditioning won't practice with the team but he'll do his running in rehab like like he's been doing Nigel will ramp his we would not make it this week would expect rb to be out there you know fully obviously Jalen came out of the game well he'll be out there salute every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants with Warren Middle School we also do talk about college football every now and yeah well we know that possibly of automatics would not be available still I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what is this all underneath an eagles player and they recover it that whole game might be totally different so you just have to the ebbs and flows week to week oftentimes don't make any sense so we are at our lowest as I mentioned earlier they held the players only meeting I think this game against the bills you could break it down by a lot of XS and os I think the I think the bottom line is as bad as the defense has played podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with Justin Clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin Endless rozier subscribe on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP kind of defensive tackle help and then that's what they might have to do because you're not going to see them punt on two thousand nineteen now they lose on Sunday and fall to three and five they just might the more limited than it was back in two thousand seventeen all right prediction time how are the eagles going to respond to this week of turmoil Peterson said on Friday that the oilfield hey can subscribe for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP who noble not available not available Rehab up this week we'll see where he's at I don't expect him necessarily practice today Timmy Jernigan thank you gonNa ramp his progression but but won't practice with the team necessarily he'll be off to the side who else is on your list then Jason and continued success with Justin and Liz Rocha subscribe on Apple podcasts or your favorite podcast APP a little bit longer probably you know week to week with him in and respond positively I just think just how they're talking you know one of them they they want to get back out on the practice field yeah I mean we're down to you know we're down to really one guy with Fletcher we had to make a couple of moves there so all part of the correct mistakes WANNA put forward they want to get to the next game I mean all those things are just signs of a of a team that's wanting to to get better and that's what I see oh really good really good this team is the team is mad they're upset disappointed in how are we that's something we'll look into obviously after we get the get the report back from you know from the police how things are going to come up and and so we do the best we can to to educate our players and try to protect them the best we can else these last two games they're embarrassed obviously from the other day and so they they they're which is good I mean it's it's it's not good illusion what comes out of that obviously we do our best to protect our players here on premise but obviously they have personal lives and we all have personal lives and and they were making sure that he's still dealing with soreness obviously A so we're still working with that range of motion all that before we put them back out there I are would have put him you know eight weeks or so out but but this rainy season close are still concussion symptoms effective Mukasa how are you handling the police are handling it it's a personal issue so I'm out of it we'll look into it and and obviously the police get involved and and really from that standpoint I can't do anything other than than than you know here the results of the investigation might be a question for him honestly I think he's after watching him in practice last week coming back from injury you know that he's he's battled injury as far as you know the testing all that stuff was just the symptom of the symptoms are fine he's okay from that it's the neck and that's that's the concern for us and whether players yes no we got to prepare you know like we've been doing I think we have to maintain our trust in our process that we talk a lot about and how we go about that and sometimes the messaging from your perspective this week did anything changed urged them to take ownership of I think the biggest thing for me is is every day Arthur years ago when he didn't play where he didn't address that kind of step back in Washington to now crawls is getting close to he's he's going to work he probably won't practice with ten million will practice with the team he'll do his conditioning and all that often it's available see what see what we can do but you know we're we're GONNA we're GonNa do what's best for the Philadelphia Eagles as you know and I think that's that's where we start they are now I mean he he's right where rubber we expected

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2020 Week 13 (Part 2)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

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2020 Week 13 (Part 2)

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I don't even feel like messing around. I want to dive right into it. Because i want to start budget. You get two year in episode two. Let's start with the giants and seahawks joe of key people on their toes. Usually it's about a couple of minutes where we dive into it. Nope giants seahawks. Wanna get your thoughts on this game. Look like they're going to have daniel jones this week so without daniel jones it colton koi is going to be the starting quarterback and now i say appears because as we're talking right now. The giants are practicing. Joe judge has said that Clayton thorson is going to get some first team reps as well. That's not good news for the new york giants. Their offense was not very good. When mccoy came in you know he came in cold. He's a professional quarterback. I think with a week to prepare as the starting quarterback colt mccoy production out of this. But you have. Evan ingram. I go over one hundred yards in this game and most of it came daniel jones unfortunately at one catch for negative one yard with With mccoy in their quarterback colt mccoy did gravitate a little bit towards golden tate out of the slot. Maybe that's somebody who who will produce this week. If cole mccoy has to play quarterback Darius slayton was a ghost last week. I'm not sure he's going to be somebody who's going to have a game this week Very slim did not catch pass last week. By the way. The one guy who i think could keep rolling with further new york. Giants is wayne goldman. And i've been calling them for weeks. They'd always an rb to his numbers. Suggest he's like a top seven or eight at position that number say he's an rb one. I'm just a little bit concern. This entire giant offense takes a major hit without daniel jones. I say what you want about daniel jones. They started to get in a little. Bit of a groove. I'm not really sure that Now with seattle's defense by the way starting to hit its stride a little bit they get carlos dunlap they trade for him. Jamal adams is back. This is not the same match than it was early in the year when they didn't have either of those guys what about for the. What about the. It's the same with the seahawks. You play your guys. Every week The thing about the backfield though is interesting. There is a point in that game on monday night which was really hard game to watch. Because frankly i don't think seattle played all that want to either where i was wondering if chris carson was was dealing with some injuries because carlos hyde got a bunch of carries. But it's clear who the running back is is chris. Carson had eight carries for forty one yards philidelphia. Carlos side had fifteen twenty two. I would think. Chris carson is going to get a little bit more work here Going forward than than than carlos i carlos i could probably use them as a low end lex chris carson back on the rb two. Maybe even rb one radar. Because i thought he looked pretty good. They clearly limited his snaps in that game. Bill de came metcalf roasted the eagles last week. The howie rose was going to be paying for that. Pick for a long time my pay pay pay with papers job. Pay a pay for it with his job but became has a tough match-up this week against james bradberry. I don't anticipate he's going to go for ten for one seventy seven the way he did last week even though he cooked up darius slay in that game but it is a tougher. Matchup tyler lockett. I think this is probably a little bit of a better matchup for him against the new york giants than it is for gay metcalfe but the seahawks are team. You're just playing all those guys plan. Russell wilson anyway. Whether or not it's a good matchup or not predict for decay mac app. You just have to play every week next up. It's the rams and cardinals losses. The total on this game is forty eight and a half over drag kings. I don't have a great you'll for this. One is our draftkings light game. So i wanted to get your thoughts on the fantasy. Guys were both teams. Were season law. Dfs overdraft the rams driving nuts roth. That's why grunted there. Because jared goff pisses me off for fantasy. It is just night and day with this guy whether you pressure him. He's gonna terrible if you do not pressure him he is going to carve you up and last week. He got pressure and he looked terrible. I just don't understand how this happens. I really don't understand how. Cooper kupp caught like eight passes on the opening drive two weeks ago. And then he comes out and then he catches two passes for forty one yards. Jared goff two interceptions no touchdowns one hundred ninety eight yards against san francisco. The question is can arizona pressure him. The way that san francisco did and i would have doubts about that. I really would I would think But the one thing. I can say about. The rams is at least they've started to get the ball. Robert woods his hands more. You play him each and every week this is. I mean it's just frustrating. With what on with jared goff so i think robert was gruber cup. You just have to play them. But i think the story everybody is going to be talking about is did they. Finally cede control the backfield cam akers. And maybe i mean darrell. Henderson had ten carries for nineteen yards cam. Akers had nine carries for eighty four yards and a touchdown cam akers. Has it been producing with a much higher success. Rate the last number of weeks. And darrell henderson. Malcolm brown is just kind of part of the rotation here. If i'm the rams. I'm giving more snaps in that. Backfield cam akers. If i'm playing back here as a flex it is going to be cam akers against the arizona cardinals but that passing game for the ramp is so damn frustrating. Because jared gob jekyll jecklin high. If he gets pressured early he is going to be terrible in the game if he gets if he's clean early he's gonna carve you up cardinals. I wonder how much collar murray's shoulders affected him. He did not look good against new england. Not pressing the ball down the field ranches five times for thirty one yards. I mean if you survive last week in a must win situation with kyla. Who's been carrying your team. I mean congratulations. I'm still of the mind that I'm waiting for. This breakout game from christian kirk and i think keiler injury is a problem with that because now you would anticipate jalen ramsey who's been selectively shadowing war in recent weeks and he was in early. Weeks is going to match up on the andre hopkins here so you would hope. This is a big game for christian kirk but with kyle murray dinged up. They have been giving the ball to kenyan drake and he has been coming through. He scores two touchdowns and oh a bonus. We thought early in the season. We were drafting kenyan. Drake in the second round us going to catch passes all year. We caught three this past week after being kind of held down in that department for a lot of the season but i would anticipate that cardinals are going to continue to give the ball. Kenyan drake kyla. Murray dinged up. Not telling you kyla murray. I'm not telling you you sit deondraye hopkins. But the matchup isn't great for those guys in christian kirk. I know it's been quiet. And i think the injury might have something to do with that but i wouldn't anticipate he has the better match up to receivers here. Let's get to new england. And the chargers and i guess the question there for the chargers who is doing. I'm gonna try take away. My guess is it's keenan allen. Maybe a big austin ekeler day. I pictured to these from the patriots. Get over the top big austin ekeler day. I'm calling yeah. I completely rossi comes back. He plays seventy three percent of the snaps and he gets sixteen targets. And even though justin herbert's the kind of quarterback wants to push the ball down the field. Austin ekeler is a great receiver sixteen targets in his first game back. That's a good sign for austin ekeler. I think i think you're right. I think bill ballot check will say hey won't let him catch those short asses. We just want to prevent teen now and from going over the top. My question is the stefan gilmore. Matchup keenan allen. A bunch does he take out mike williams. I'm still not thinking. It's a great matchup for mike williamson the problem i have here. You know he. He had of the white coverage last week Stefan gilmore when. He's outside match up to mike williams but three guys who got double digit targets from justin herbert last week three of them did by the way. Echo had sixteen targets but hunter henry had ten and keenan allen. Had ten those three guys who have to be in your lineup. Right now and i understand. New england's typically been tougher matchup. I don. You can't bench justin. Herbert guy just puts up numbers each and every week yet. I'm with you. What about the patriots. When they're on offense. I was really disappointed by josh allen. Played last week against this charger defense. I thought he was going to have a big day. And cam newton at this point. I mean i mean nine. Eighteen for eighty four yards two picks couldn't for the ball he ran the ball took a cheap shot at the end of the game. I if you think it was a cheap shot by zeta simmons. I hate this offense. A shell was active. But he didn't get any touches it's damien harrison james white show in the backfield. But here's the thing with white. It's five carries for eighteen yards any scores twice so he comes through for fantasy. The problem is he has one target. And you only catches for a negative one yards. He caught it for law. So what are we doing here. With new england Against the charger. Defense cam is a low end stream her you just hope. He runs the ball a well. Jakobi meyers five catches for fifty. Two yards he can be back in your lineup as a wide receiver three i still think he's camps. Preferred guy keep an eye on the status of julian edelman. He might come off of vr. But i think you have to flex plays in the backfield damien harrison. James white cam is a low end streaming viable quarterback and i think you have jakobi meyers as a wide receiver. Three here. but it's just a really bad offense and it's it's hard to watch each because cam is still capable of having those big blow up games but at but you're also risking a terrible terrible terrible outing from him each and every week. What about the eagles. And the packers eagles. I know you wrote about this week. Joe it's really sad to watch carson. Wentz is broken and there are a tough would say about them. Fantasy wise back off the ira now so that might cut into gutter. I mean here don. The eagles jeffrey loria is one of the best owners in professional sports. He has got to get some answers here. Because first and foremost you can read my my. My art is free for everybody up a fantasy points dot com. I mostly i think. Eagles need to move on from howie roseman. Who built this old decrepit organization that seems to have no collaborative nece after after collaboration was everything that led to their super bowl championship just three years ago. But the jalen hurts thing illustrates everything here and. I'm not trying to absolve anybody of blame here. Doug peterson carson wentz. You know everybody's like well if you think the play callings initiative the roster buildings initiative you're absolving carson wentz of a terrible season. You're not you're just trying to contextualized. And i thought. Louis riddick and brian greasy on the monday night football broadcast the other night did a wonderful job contextualising everything they were pointing out when carson wentz was missing things badly they're also pointing out where the roster isn't helping him in the playcalling isn't helping him. I don't think that's that's not absolving him of blame. It's just contextualising. It and the jalen hurts situation it better than anything. jalen arts. oh he got more first team reps. This week we're gonna we're gonna play. we're gonna bench carson wentz. Here's jalen hurts is to snaps carson. Wentz plays on first and ten thick. It was hand off the miles sanders or boston. Scott for one yard. They put jalen hurts on second nine immediately. False start jalen hurts completes a pass for six yards and then you pull them out and ask carson wentz to clean up the third more. How does that make any sense whatsoever. How does that put either of those two guys or hurts in a position to succeed. It doesn't if you're gonna play to give them a series if you're not if you're gonna put him on second and i don't put them at all it's it does not make sense to me and like and if this is the usage peterson has has sucked out for jalen hurts that it's clear to me. He wasn't on board with this traffic so far. Let's bring it back to fantasy. It's so he goes. Fandom is going great what do people need to know about fantasy. Eagles are a mess. Sorry russ sorry russ. They need to get the ball to miles sanders more. I don't know if doug peterson. We'll do that but they need to do it. I know he's dropped passes but They need to run the football. More zach ertz coming back. I don't know if the dow's god has been basically the only pass catcher doing anything worth a damn here disaster. It's her him. Probably given how the eagles have gone. I like aside from all sanders. I would play got her. I would like this week on but aside from those two guys. I kinda wanted to support the whole thing. What about the packers gets an eagle veteran. Pretty good last couple of week. Yeah it was. It was good this past week And i think that's another thing that frustrates eagle fans like. You know they have these great performances when the offense isn't any good and when the offense the defense doesn't i mean darius slay got cooked by metcalf so you but he's gonna get cooked by davante adams in this game They did a really nice job on the ground. The eagles against aside from the sixteen yard touchdown run against carson at high. They did a nice job. But you're playing aaron jones. Jim schwartz has always struggled against aaron rodgers. I would anticipate that continues this week. Just play your packers play. 'em play them all. I think the eagles are are dead in the water. And i think it's just going to get worse from here on out the next game on the slate. Joe is going to be the broncos and the chiefs and the broncos will have nfo quarterbacks at quarterback it depends on your evaluation of drew. Lock up. but i would say like. I saw people being like last week. Don't blame kendall hit. Nobody's blaming him. He was putting an impossible situation last week. And i i mean it just goes to show you how hard it is playing. Nfl quarterback but when it comes to denver keep an eye on the status phillip lindsay. in the backfield. I don't like. I mean this back does number good right now for fantasy anyway. But you would think. Melvin gordon can have a little bit more work in this. Game noah fant ease alot anti-dam one. Jerry jeudy tim patrick or wide receiver threes. You would think drew lock is going to have to throw the ball here. But i mean this is just a bad match up and again i mentioned it on the last podcast. You kind of want to avoid bad teams at this point. You're rolling the dice. Every time you play a denver bronco. It hasn't been very pretty for denver. Is there really anything. Talk about as it relates to the chiefs just the backfield. They don't run the football and we thought lady on bell was gonna come in here and you know he can take some work but but edwards helaire. They don't run the ball. And they daryl williams too so they have a three man rotation in the backfield. Nobody's really producing. All i mean i think bell is a bench guy layers a flex but the passing game. I mean mahomes tyreek hill sammy. Watkins got back. maybe he's your guy meco hartman wide open for a ninety yard touchdown. last week. It was not a good throw by mahomes. Hardman probably still could and should have caught it. So you're taking your gamble with the secondary chief wide receivers but understand each and every week. One of those guys could blow up a monday afternoon. Football washington football team at the pittsburgh steelers washington with eleven days. Rest steelers will have like four adept point. Yeah and here's the deal again. Let's talk about the backfield with washington. You know you're playing terry mclaren pittsburgh's a tough up. But you know you're playing harry mclaren but let's talk about that washington backfield. Antonio gibson went absolutely nuclear on thanksgiving. You have to play antonio gibson you have to but when you're talking about washington a pittsburgh this is going to be a long. It's going to be more than the touchdown. Barring something bizarre happening this afternoon to the pittsburgh steelers going to be a touchdown you anticipate the. Jv mckissic is going to be the guy that plays a few more snaps because they trust him on. Pass pro so jd. Mckissic in that backfield is a flex worthy option with washington. Heavy underdogs antonio gibson is a star. You can't sit him but just keep in mind. Jd mckissic might play more snaps than you would like to see this week if you have antonio gibson your lineup okay. I don't know what we can say about. Pittsburgh's is they haven't played the before you other than keep an eye on for when connor can come off the cova right and he tested positive so he might not be able to play although ingram dobbins for baltimore. I guess are able to play that game kicking off in a couple hours here. I guess they're able to play. I don't know. Keep an eye on conner status again. I don't want to throw out some significant takes your on pittsburgh when they haven't even played their week twelve game yet right and now we do have money game or two teams. We have seen buffalo bills. Who were kind of running the ball better. And their defense played better against the forty niners. Do we have a player who is kind of a nice catalyst for baltimore For buffalo rather. Who might be a little bit underrated. And i'm wondering if that's john brown. They had to put them on. I r. he's been banged up all year but album. These numbers for josh allen. When john brown plays versus when he doesn't when john brown has played in he josh allen averages twenty seven point three fantasy points per game if extrapolated to the full season. That would be second among all quarterbacks behind only cuyler murray in games. That brown has missed. Alan average is seventeen. Point seven fantasy points per game. Extrapolated to the full season would be twenty first among quarterbacks. So he's been re. I mean barely replacement level without john brown small sample size because he's only three games barely replacement level without him and he has been a fantasy superstar with him and san francisco as you saw last week. Got after jared gop pressured him. Josh allen got dinged up last week wonder if this might be a little bit of a tougher match. The people think and josh allen. Not a guy that. I'm like recommending. You sit not a guy. I'm really excited to bench. However just keep that in mind that his numbers have been far worse without john brown in the lineup than with him in the lineup. So you wonder if they might lean a little bit more on that run game which was pretty good with devon singles. Airing zack moss. Okay what about the niners against the bills defense. That appears to be playing better. Yeah and they might get matt milano back the linebacker. This week they They designate to return which means they activated his practice window so he could play. This week might not play but that run defense has not been very good according to football outsiders db away. It's bottom eleven. Run defense in the nfl. They've given up thirteen fantasy points per game to running back. So i would anticipate with nick mullins playing poorly last week. That the forty niners are gonna come out. They're going to run the ball. They're gonna run it with gerald. Excuse me with rain moster. jeff wilson. Both of whom fumbled last week by the way but when he mostly plays they give him the football he is firmly on the rb two radar and deebo samuel You would think trivia white might match up to him but he moves all around. It's hard for trae white to match up to him. He produces when he is out there. I would have him in your lineup. Also keep an eye on the status of brandon euch who is Who was on the code list. Maybe they'll pull him off this week. So the forty niners again. Not one of those teams. That's very exciting for fantasy. But deebo samuel raheem or give them a lot. More juice in that department than we've seen in recent weeks or tuesday night game i will be called in for westwood one looking forward to it. It's the cowboys in the ravens. There's really not much about the ravens until you actually see how. Rg three plays. It appears they'll have dobbins an ingram mac for that or even though they're not gonna play in the game that starts two hours from now and yeah i think mark andrews will be out the mar. Jacks will be out. I believe so. Maybe just talk cowboys unless you have no idea who's going to be in the lineup for the baltimore ravens. We just don't and ross up trying to guess two weeks ahead of time. I mean it's it's it's a futile exercise But for the cowboys again. It's a bad match up. After andy dalton came back in and he started giving that offense some life the cowboys awful against the football team. On thanksgiving ezekiel elliott. Had a terrible game yet. Another fumble amari. Cooper got it done now. That's a guy that i'm willing to play each and every week. With andy dalton. A quarterback cd lamb is like a wide receiver. Three a michael gallup. I mean he's had a terrible season at. He's like low end wide receiver. Three after zeke had his best game of the year he comes out loses yet. Another fumble against the football team has i. Don't i can't remember the last time as ego. Elliott had a worse fantasy game than he had against washington. But it's not a good match up against baltimore. Zeke elliott's and rb two at this point i e whether or not. It's already three lamar jackson. I don't know who's going to be there when you call that game. Ross it's not a good match up for the dallas cowboys. Amari cooper is really the only guy feel great about starting you good match up everybody listening and fantasy points dot com where you can go use the code feast did they have like twenty guys like joe that are totally obsessed sickos that have so much content it is ridiculous fantasy points dot com use the code feast also remember. You can become a patron and get all of our even money bets and all other stuff. Patriotic dot com slash. Rt media really. 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Dj Vu

Around the Horn

22:57 min | 6 months ago

Dj Vu

"Call that flat out. Shot is the result of a day I say this whenever it happens people always say no one call changes the result what about your their calls it was fourth down the play was over book dame was over also how Miami did it Look. At Ud era's a Clinton Tim. Miami's back. where? Studio. MIAMI. How Awful Lobe losers game all have la blow this game all we need to have the referees blow that whistle. I don't need to say any more. Is that pass interference and didn't change the result of a game guy solo around the orange the you? Well Tony Let's go back to week one, an offensive pass interference call Michael Gal was that cost Dallas and that benefited the rams. So in this case, I don't like that calm in that situation but let's remember there was also a third and twenty two. So they had a chance I get it it's never one call but in that situation, if it's not called game is over if I'm the rams, I'm pretty upset but you know what you gotTa Roll with the real good theaters. I mean by the letter of the rule that is a pass. At. The least it's illegal contact past five yards. Is it a soft penalty? Yes. Is it a softer penalty for that point of the game? Yes. But if this were last year and did were reviewable, it would beheld up so they can cry they want. But again, thirty, twenty two, you can stop him there and just don't hang up. Looks like. Lois top when you said letter of the law, go ahead Clinton. Look, he may not have got robbed, but they certainly got job. If I'm watching a football game in the flag comes out there. I don't care about picking nits on the rule book you can't call that they're the guys have lean is round the post fire over his head I need to live in a world where that is legal. So can have more fun watching the football I'm sorry. The first half of this game is one thing the bills came back excuse me the rams came back and Donald started to dominate that good secondhand. It almost felt like they deserved it right up until the very end and that it was like wait. I'll come on really a flag bad call bad situation. Don't like it at all. I feel bad for him. Now we go. Tim cowlishaw. The problem I have with Mr Yates him saying you can't call that there. That means in the second quarter you call that and that line. But at the end of the game, you can't call something that is hey, as our dapper friend from Miami told US clearly by letter of the law. It's a foul, it's very least illegal contact i. don't think it's interference the when the receiver defensive back. His arms up like that at the end of the. You know he knows he was in touch with the receiver while his arms up that bowl is the top corner of the screen is barely in the shop was even catchable frank, probably illegal contact for that reason. I don't think it was I'll tell you what it's been a great weekend for Miami and is he hit on a great point here because when you had the replay challenge on something like that, it wouldn't have been overturned it would have been held up as passive I. Still think they should bring that rule back. Let them at least look at that because if I'm. The Rams at least I know they're up in the booth they're looking at they say you know what the call is upheld tough grams we move on I would you also had a good point frank nobody's crying for the reds historically on this president nobody saints for the Rams talked to me about this was a game. The bills had this game they were up at. The rains made a comeback with Aaron Donald as you sick because they got Josh Allen like nobody has, but it went the other way to the third twenty two cowlishaw. You know the rams are doing it with what they might have thought at the beginning of the year is their third running back. Daryl Henderson. But he's making plays golf came back in May play. They got too far down obviously even though they came all the way back, Kit Barrier Self Twenty eight to three. The bills are really good. But I think we learned that the rams yesterday were probably more impressive than those wins over. I thought somebody. Tell me this was Josh Allen Making the jump that we've talked about him making i. mean he needed maybe even drive in the last minute Israel and he did. Yeah he did. Well, the ranch came back with balance and they're really good team I'm impressed by them but Josh, Allen was spectacular in this game. He's been spectacular this season and I'm telling you right now if this was a Josh Allen from last year or even two years ago, he doesn't get that call at the end because they just assume it's inaccurate. He'd had a great game and that got him that call. So I don't think it's just the end of the game I think the entire. Up to that. What you're saying, he gets colds now because he's all a great veteran and. Go to the letter of the. Tally. Is, me. Invoke the letter of the law then give me that. Good call. That's quarterback in the AFC east. That's for sure. Yes. Over Cam Newton. Okay. That's a conversation have. Later we're going to move on now how you can possibly be the team that blew the on side kick and then the very next week blowing twenty six, Ten leave bears thirty, twenty six. By the way Nick foles like every time I do anything it's in the shadow of something else. Last week Arthur Blank said about the collapse they had ending Quin job you want to respond disappointment or as how to correct it overseas it would allow left inflate tip. Around the hordes of you do you think that still applies for day quid. I was. DALLAS ATLANTA game. Last week thinking what is it really like to be a falcons fan and I think their team response is. Yet. Again next week we'll do the same thing. We'll have a monster lead on the bears and we'll let them come back on us. You Know I. Think Dan Queens days are clearly numbered, but that's not going to solve a lot of their problems. The defense isn't very good and Julio Jones had a big first week barely did anything gets Dallas didn't play yesterday. So they've got a mess on this with tears. I'm already upset that I'm down fourteen because of your past interference bias is now you've got me talking about the Stinky Falcons before we get to the Miami. Heat who made the finals I will say this about the Falcons you can't rush the ball twelve times for twenty six yards in the fourth quarter with a big lead you can't when you're down three. Go. Incomplete passes incomplete past false start incomplete Dan Quinn. I mean I don't know if he deserves to get fired for these two games, but he's going to get fired because of these two games and that's all I have to frank guy. Soul. And let's remember the Super Bowl. So factors into it as well, and here's the thing when the offense isn't getting done the defense and last week was special teams. It falls on the coach but to think that he's the only problem here you're sadly mistaken but I think Atlanta right now is in a situation where the players know ultimately it's GonNa, fall in the head coach they. have an easy alibi. So you're going to go to this whole season every week it's going to be as Dan Clean GonNa lose his job is he going to lose his job? It's like the season is already over for Atlanta and we're not even out of September does fall on the head coach though when we said that like you were saying some of this falls on Matt Ryan. Yes that's the name that I'd like to mention here. The decision making second half wasn't what we wanted it to be and I'm not gonNA, knock the guy and say that he's a bomb it's not that it's just that the ceiling of what we thought Matt Ryan was GonNa be I think we're realizing now might not be as high and on top of all this after all let embarrassment they did it on the owners birthday come on Y'all didn't good and that's not good for business. I'm glad you try. To Julio's not there though I mean he was at fifty percent completion, which he never has been historically, and that's that's a tough one for Matt Ryan to swallow. You want to say something unfolds being the guy in Chicago Clinton. Named them starting quarterback just just today. Yeah. I mean the identity of that franchise has been who is going to be quarterback that's the trubisky era is just over and not because he stunk join album because they just made a choice. I, mean I'm sorry. If I'm a bears fan I'm worried about what this looks like going forward worried hamster worried you gotTa Sumo. Wrestler Alexei. It's the same old deal in crain's Chicago. We'll see if they actually win any games. They're thrilled I was surprised. Foles didn't win the job I mean they didn't really have a training camp. Part of the problem preseason, but I think I think bears fans got to be. Way, behind foles on their a better story than Nick foles. Other guys get signed in the autumn Jackson I I don't understand how wasn't starting games for just about half the teams in the League after winning Super Bowl we're gonNA move on all right Israel Gutierrez I do apologize Lakers the moment let's go came on the NBA finals jokes Wednesday. How we got here we all know it's been long and why the how abby got here is flat out legend stuff league history. The thirteen fifth or below to make the final anyone know the other two and he right you wanNA. Guess Ninety Nine Knicks, Knicks and rocket rockets. Yes and ninety five way they closed boss now. In, fourth last night the fourth quarter just like every other. You know they don't miss they every baugh. Bam. You submit number one take away from this heat team making the finals Israel. To me if you had to me choose one, it's Bam Outta by this is a guy who blamed himself for some reason after game five and came out I hate to say Lebron like aggressive in this game six against the Boston Celtics and then finish the game in a way we've never really seen him going attacking off the dribble essentially from half court against Daniel. Thais. This guy at a closeout thirty plus twelve rebounds had the assists there. He is the most Brad Stevens talked about it. Often, he was the most dominant player for the heat throughout the series the Celtics to worry about the most he is a superstar now and he's on a final stage. It's all really think he's the most important player to this Miami he t. Do. Over Jimmy Butler everything he'd okay frank isolate. You cannot dress that or take away at this team how they made a finals run. Bam is terrific but for me it should be he makes plays he's not the free agent that comes in and says, I'm making the most money on the most accomplished. I have to take thirty shots a game, and I'm going to score twenty five regardless of what happens but to me with the Miami Heat of done here, the Pat Riley, is the best in the business. Are Exposed. It was one of the top coaches in the league. It's one of the best organizations in sports to make that jump from not being a playoff team to now be in the finals and what they've done with those roleplayers Dunkin Robinson undrafted tally hero, a rookie they played with more confidence more tough. Listen the Boston Celtics play to listen to frank guys. Sola. Talking up. To worry colts here. The Best Organization This coming. APPS cover the Knicks for thirty years. He knows about well okay. Maybe it doesn't know about well, run organizations. Clinton Yates number one takeaway in this heat run. The word I used to use, for Bam, in this case was I called him on this show a Haas because he can pass you go over you. He can pass around you can go through you which demonstrated but still this is about the Jimmy Butler revenge I mean if you're Minnesota if you're Chicago if you're all those teams that said he was. The problem. He was sort of an issue SPO- in Vialli handled that in not just on the court this team is looking like they're having the most fun remember the street they had going into the playoffs and lost at all because they were just beating guys in there having a good time. I'm so happy for Jimmy, Butler, and getting back together and having. You know, Pat Riley has owned a lot of different decades starting with the Eighties Showtime Lakers and now he's done in three different decades in Miami outcoached Dallas six for a title put the Super Team Together for two more titles starting two, thousand twelve, and now two thousand twenty moving on from that with a whole different cast of players has done a tremendous job and stood by Spoelstra with. A fine point on that they didn't use move on from a whole different set of players to superstars left to go home one left. Yeah. Tragically almost because what Klotz and they didn't take they didn't have a process and here they are in the finals. Now let's talk about the Boston side of it conference finals where it ends for the third time in four years Frank. Where did it go wrong? What did they do now? Well to me those young players on the team Jalen Brown Jason Tatum Marcus smart they're still young but I'm going to put this on Gordon Hayward who I thought. It was terrible last night Kemba Walker in a situation like this. He looks too small and Brad Stevens to take some of it. So I don't know how long the off season is going to be, but it's going to be a long off season Brad Stevens Kemba Walker. Look that core is not changing. So I think the is going to be on Brad Stevens. Good he of US Jalen. Brown differently probably could have maybe as Marcus smart to take twenty two shots in game six. Probably there's things that Brad Stevens could have done differently. I. Don't know if it's his fault but I know that's where a lot of eyes are going to be because the players aren't changing. Right now, I happen to know the ESPN. Six o'clock you've got forty six minutes you've made a pig is real, right? You're picking Miami we know you are. I talked myself into it. I'm taking the heat and we go. All right. Oh Taking a break right here. And Kiel Harry Tamsui. Vapors like this. All right. What did he say? Any guesses? Game has passed. Route and he's wearing a g string on his face on the other side line. That's what he said. Back to. This place look haunted. Don't think. So what about those two creepy girls come stay with us? Truly. Frightening. Fairly Sandy. Missing Guy Grade. Service. With Geico you get twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents. Thank you. Creepy girls were to see our room. We're GONNA sleep in the car now. Go We'd switch today for twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents. Does. This place look haunted Don't think. So what about those two creepy girls come stay with us? Truly frightening. Just really. Missing. Guy. Goes. Great Service with Geico you twenty four seven access to licensed agents. Thank. You creepy girls were to see our room. We're GONNA, sleep in the car now. We'd switched today for twenty, four, seven access to licensed agents. A, record in your. Kept Russell Wilson Fourteen touchdowns through three games breaking Patrick. Mahomes is three-game records season. That decay metcalf give away at the goal line is what stop this six touchdown game and fifteen through three games. Let's say he was GonNa Buy Wilson as a lock MVP even though we're only regains in Yates you. I'm going to sell that the two guys playing the night to me are still in front I. Understand that he's better than he ever has, but I think the whole no MVP votes in previous years kind of fueling a lot of this great season out of him. I'm just taking him over mahomes or off the mark. Jackson, even though they've only played two games three to Calatrava you. Sell it to. He's not going to play the cowboys secondary every week this cowboys team has given up more points if I three weeks than any cowboys team the last sixty years. It's between him though in the winter of tonight's game, which by the way is Lamar. Jackson. WHOA. From Calcutta's well. I mean, it's hard to buy when the conversation could be entirely different by tomorrow but I will say he's favorite and should be fairly easily. Do I think he'll be able to maintain this over the course of the season probably not this guardian number. They'll probably lean on the Russian game a little bit more even though Carson's probably out for a week to Guy Sola. I'll tell you what would know this better than me. He's been covering football since Papa Bear Halas was running the bears. We never used to talk about ep this early in the season but I do think there is a lot of momentum Russell Wilson Right now, almost a lifetime achievement to it. You talked about Kris Carson like it can only be a week or two. That's incredible. Just to strain the play by Kristen. Hill where he rolled Chris Carson. Tim, this is a Dallas Cowboy. It's your account to me speak for this. Dirty play. There's there's no two two ways around at kristen ill spend most last year on the bench or inactive failed second round pick now he's played pretty well, but you can't do that. That's gotta be. That's gotta be a significant fine even if Carson isn't. That Gutierrez gator roll right isn't that a gator role of ain't coming from the. GATORS. We'll we'll the Bangel Eagles tired after the fall star pushback fifty, nine yards. Beagle Doug Peterson punted one thousand nine seconds left instead of trying to sixty four yard or pick up a first down maybe or throw hell Mary, he played for the tie. He says he regrets it now. Sit. WHO's more fault for this Philadelphia Doug Peterson Carson Wentz. Carson. Didn't have a great day but I would have still given one I don't care if. You got. Nineteen. Seconds. The bengals aren't GonNa have time to do anything you throw incomplete past twenty yards down the field tried something on the sidelines tried to make it i. It's Carson spalding. They don't have enough trust in him, which is crazy because a few years ago he would've stayed healthy could've won. Mvp He looks inaccurate. He doesn't look very confident. I wouldn't let them throw it there. You might have thrown a pick six ended the game with an instead Brian Guys Sola. Mr Miami, he's all over but that offensive line, the weight Carson Wentz was playing and that division just punt the ball down the road. We'll worry about it I I'm okay with the ties. From Frank sold. You're just trying to get in with the Miami Heat reporters I know what you're doing you. Wouldn't be such a big deal if it worked for last week. Peterson yelling at people about whether or not they played quarterback in the NFL because they thought that Carson Wentz to make the short throws Oh. Yes. WHO's doesn't have the confidence in his quarterback to make this short throat. Douglas come on we also have. Custody. As anybody out more on that first half of the season MVP in Carson. Wednesday to pump for us. Guys are still bringing that up. Go right later the law is real good here is somebody has to go home right now it's you that's the letter that law. Out Josh. Clinton. Showdown the chargers play. Charges, they have this. This according. Hook, can ladder aw. Is White every team has to employ a rugby coach. showed up to. Clean. College Sean showed, where's what he paid? Who'd he got the LSU loss? Right? celebrated so hard. He missed work LSU'S I lost and six hundred, seventy, one days Mike Lisa's first SEC caging Stella Fraud for six twenty, three yards. There was that and there was Oklahoma's lost to Kansas. State half of Ledgers playoff is done. WHO's lost and you're going to go in on Tim Cowlishaw. LSU's Oklahoma lost to Kansas state the year ago just a different venue I lead is going to be a handful for a lot of coaches six, hundred yards though my gosh don't be a handful my man showed up and broke records with the kid who transferred from Stanford and then had the line of the century saying the only reason we played them is because NFL tease. In the Jaguars. two-point ads from Yates they'll move on the baseball brackets back two months ago Toronto had no home. Miami and Saint Louis were personal covert spikes. Now they're all in the play offs. What's the best story woods? The first round match of interest rates The first round match up for me is me and my television set because we're going to give four games tomorrow and eight games on the next day from twelve to ten pm I'm sorry I'm very excited about that personally, but I'm a nerd about. I'm looking for the major upsets I'm looking for the brewers, taking down the dodgers or something crazy like that because I don't want sixteen. Tournaments after this. Silly silly for baseball but you know what it is. It's our march madness in October. This is playing out just like the NCAA tournament. We're going to make this interesting going into showdown three ready packers thirty seven saves thirty Rogers over breeze sky not falling as more. Ambriz New Orleans is lost two straight. What's more surprising green bay three, and our New Orleans is one. I think it's Green Bay three at all I know they were thirteen and three last year I. Know They went to the NFC championship game a lot of us thought that was a little bit fraudulent. We've Iraq about that green base pretty good okay. There's never anything surprising about the saints getting off the bed starts they've just managed to convince. US each year that it is I told you guys on Friday that the packers are going to win this game with some ease and they did breach struggles early this season we talked about look. Great. Do they historically start slow I? Guess I didn't know that I guess I missed out on that either way promotions, the meeting called the. Clinton Yates either mute facetime. Tim. cowlishaw. Good to be back in the studio for the first time in almost seven months. kind of feeling almost normal again. But there's a lot of things I'm going to be missed decides my couch about doing this show from Home GonNa Miss Sarah Spain's color coded bookshelves I'm fascinated with those I'm missing Pablo into ever all the plants he had behind it. I'm GonNa Miss Frank wearing a suit at home looking like any advice officials. And then I and then Izzy and and. Clinton with an ever changing backgrounds always looking for that advantage. We have here though we have the ability to have some fun with you guys. Thanks. 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12/01/20 DPS-BEST OF

The Dan Patrick Show

36:30 min | 4 months ago

12/01/20 DPS-BEST OF

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It's gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com once again. It's geico easy. Visit geico dot com today. Geico dot com. You're listening to the. Dan patrick show on fox sports radio when they up with the expression any given sunday about the nfl they had no idea about twenty twenty. When you think about it get ready for any given wednesday. The league moved last thursday. Steelers ravens game to this wednesday afternoon because of cova issues. Now i get it. This isn't an easy situation. The league might have to do a little better job communicating with their strategy. Because right now it just feels like they're making it up as they go along and his fans. I think. We've been very lenient with these leaks. We give them a pass for moving their schedules around or at least we should. It's a tough job but the nfl's been all over the place the last couple of weeks and it's not entirely clear why they're in such a hurry here you do have a little breathing. Room for league. Push things back a little bit. The nfl has room to do it. And apparently they're okay with a wednesday afternoon game featuring depleted baltimore squad. And hopefully it's worth it is. The season stays on track and is competitively fair and really. That's the important part of everything. I'm talking about right now. Is it competitively fair or at least relatively close to where it's supposed to be and i don't know if you can say that going this game wednesday afternoon and if you're wondering why wednesday afternoon. Nbc has their holiday special coming up on wednesday night and nothing gets in the way of mariah carey and michael boublil or football. What do you want. i'm gonna go. Michael boublil every single day. But that's coming up with nbc on wednesday night. Nbc will carry the game on wednesday afternoon. This program brought to you by the great folks at masterclass offering over ninety classes on a variety of topics. All top by world-class masters at the top of their field. You wanna learn about shooting from steph curry. You can tennis from serena williams. Comedy from steve martin this holiday when you buy an annual membership. Get another annual membership for free. What a great christmas gift to master class dot com slash patrick masterclass dot com slash. Patrick i have a source in the. Nfl works for the nfl. And i reached out yesterday. And i said do the ravens actually feel like they're being treated unfairly and my source wrote me back. Classic hypocrisy be vigilant about the protocols on the front end then cry that they're being screwed on the back end for consequences of these violations. Jim harbaugh john. Harbaugh is coaching staff responsible for the outbreak. There nobody to blame but themselves. So you have this game. We won't have lamar. Jackson felt like the. Nfl was going to try to push this off as long as they could to make sure. You had lamar jackson on display against the undefeated steelers. But that's not going to happen. We'll keep an eye on this right now. We're supposed to have football on wednesday afternoon but that seems like a long time from right now. Yeah seton then it feel more like the steelers being treated unfairly. Yes yes but that's what my source said. It's john harbaugh the hypocrisy that you're a victim but you created this and now the nfl has had to adjust their schedule. We're playing a wednesday afternoon game. Not fair to the steelers again. This is the second time. Yeah the steelers. And the titans not fair to the steelers point. Imagine you're robert griffin third. You're finally back a big game against the steelers. You get the ball. You're the you're the quarterback you call your friends back home. I'm going to start at quarterback of the nfl. Really that's great rob. What what type of playing three forty. Pm eastern on wednesday be there. Well wait i gotta work. I know but i the games at three forty in the afternoon the ravens steelers game will be the fortieth. Nfl game all time played on wednesday. But just the second one in the last seventy years. The cowboys and giants kicked off the twenty twelve season. That was on a wednesday instead of thursday to avoid a conflict with president obama's speech at the democratic national convention that year. Yes but on the bright side west coast. nfl fans can have their lunch with all twelve. Forty it's perfect. They'd get a little break from work watching football. I'm waiting for one of these days. We have an nfl game in the morning. During the week. I get. I don't know ten fifteen and we're going to have saints in the buccaneers like it feels like we're headed to you have a little bit of breathing room here. And they're not using it. I i said this before. And i know that it falls on deaf ears but i would allow these teams to hit the reset. You know denver to hit the reset The titans had feels like they've moved on that. There's progress there. The ravens allow them to hit the reset button. So everybody understands either that or hand baltimore forfeit. Whatever it is where you're going to get everybody's attention to what's at stake here in the nfl granted we're dealing in a vacuum here where we gotta get our sports in everything else going on in the world but we gotta get our football in. We're gonna play it. Three forty on a wednesday afternoon. It feels like the. Nfl's making this up as they go along and to me. that's dangerous. reckless is well. You can extend the regular season you can add another week you can push the super bowl back all the scenarios. I told you about at the beginning of the year. All the things that were being discussed because if you go back to when we first started the season. I told you week twelve week. Thirteen somewhere in there. That's when the leagues were worried about these players on teams. That had no chance of making the playoffs. And they weren't gonna follow protocols and here we are right around that mark and they can push the super bowl back. They discussed a contingency plan. And we're playing a game on wednesday afternoon. It's great for me. Gives me something to talk about something to watch. I just want to be fair to the nfl competitive balance to the steelers. The ravens created this. The broncos created this. The titans created this at some point. The commissioner has got to come down harder on a team. The raiders created a situation. At some point. You have to say it's more than just a five hundred thousand dollar fine. That doesn't impact the players. A seventh round draft pick. That doesn't impact the players players and the staff. They have to be held accountable here and right now i don't think they are because whatever it is we're going to cram this game. We'll get to last night's game because there are certainly A lotta story lines coming out of that. Ron toureski was working at the seahawks. Beat the eagles. Twenty three to seventeen and of course. There's a lot of questions about now where the eagles go. What do you do with carson. Wentz i thought jalen hurts. Who's gonna play a whole lot more. And then i talked to somebody last night. Who said well. Why would you put in. Jalen hurts behind an offensive line that leads the league in sacks. You also don't have a lot of weapons sean. Jeffrey should not be in a football uniform. And you're going to send him out. There had no. Ot as he really. There's no preseason and you're gonna put jalen hurts into that situation. The only reason why. I sent a text back to a friend and said but i gotta get carson wentz out of that right now i gotta let him stay on the sidelines. Maybe remove himself from being the story. Line here i yeah do i run. The risk. jalen hurts. Plays well and i'm stuck with that carson wentz contract yes i do but if i'm thinking about the long term preservation of course in wins i would not having start these games but you're drafting hurts in the second round. You didn't draft him to be. What a wildcat package. I don't think so second round. You're not drafting somebody. Who's going to be in the wildcat. Draft a lineman in the second round. Not jalen hurts. I liked jalen hurts. Made something of his college career when he went to. Oklahoma proved that he could be a quarterback who can throw enron. But i gotta let him absorb what the nfl is all about and that means you know as in preseason not hey go out there and learn on the job i'm carson. Wentz is not played. Well at all. But i went back and looked at some of the numbers when he was successful in two thousand seventeen and on his way to being the mvp. They're similar numbers in there as far as the pressures the number times he got hit the number of sacks there the number of interceptions there. You know this is a team that doesn't have a good offensive line and any successful quarterback start with their offensive. Line tell me how good their offensive line and it's really rare when you go. He's great but their offensive line is horrible. Joe burrow was trying to disprove that theory by that offensive line is horrible. But he's still great. It eventually caught up with him. But i think if you're going to put jalen hurts in there. I don't know what results you're going to expect. We always love the backup quarterback you know the eagles should have had true backup quarterback and then you have jalen hurts. Jalen hurts is not to tong vilo. he's not just in herbert. he's not joe burrow. But you're gonna you're expecting to have some success like that and it's not with a good team right now and you really have a big problem there doug peterson carson wentz and the media is just moving in for the kill. Here's doug peterson talking about the offensive. Struggles of the eagles. After last night's loss offensively we've battled with A lot of injury Lot of a lot of different moving parts. Upfront with the offense wine guys in and out you know it's just we haven't had the consistency in the continuity that you would like week in and week out you look offenses around the league that have stayed together and have stayed healthy there there's continuity and there's consistency there and we just haven't had that this season It's something that we We you know we don't make excuses for it it. It's it's where we are and and You know we have to get better. Here's carson wentz. On the possibility of being benched. I said last week you know this is what you sign up for and as a quarterback Ever since you're a kid you know you're prepared for for any of those nothing's ever guaranteed and so for me i. I don't think about that though. I just try and go out and be the best player. I can be in practice. Prepare my tail off. Compete my tail off and You know hopefully we can get this thing turned around but I don't think about those things. Do give it everything. I got every time i step on the field you know. You can't say he's not tough but he goes out there. And a quarterbacks is one of those intangibles you know it when you see it or you feel it but you can also when you or see it or feel it when you're watching somebody who doesn't have confidence out there carson. Wentz takes that snap and doesn't have confidence and that is something that will eat away at you it. It ruined david cars career. David carr got crushed his first couple of games ever seasons in the nfl. With the texans got sacked more than anybody has ever gotten sacked. And i thought he was a tremendously talented quarterback. But he never got back. Quarterbacks lose their confidence you see this all walks of life with sports you know the guy dot and he's not connie can't make his shots anymore. somebody standing over a pot. They don't have confidence anymore. You start to play mind games with yourself. And that's one thing that you can overcome. You can overcome a knee injury. You know shoulder injury but when your mind is the one that is damaged here and you're trying to figure out you know he seeing more defensive probably thinks there's fifteen defensive players out there and not. I don't know how much blame you can put on him. I'll put a lot of it on him. But i'm gonna put it on. Doug peterson is well in. Jaws join is coming up because he played the position. It's not that i can go. Well carson wentz's just learning what is he. Twenty seven years of age got five years being in this organization. You got that big contract now. They're stuck with that seattle. Picking up the win and they needed the win. Obviously with the rams losing to the forty niners you know this is going to be down to the wire. It feels like in the nfc west put seattle gets the win and decay. Metcalf was once again. That's that's an impressive talent that you have here but can we stop with. Everybody passed on decay. Medcalf didn't decay. Metcalf get hurt in college. Did he get seriously injured in college. He had a serious neck injury. Now there there were teams that took him off their draft boards. Because of that. It's not like everybody like this. Isn't the finished product that we saw at omits even at the combine. Remember that stupid. Three cone drill. He ran one of the slowest ones ever. I think tom brady's time was quicker. We thought okay. He's top-heavy he's physically imposing but there's no elasticity where you know he's just a big bulky guy. He runs straight ahead. Andy can overpower you. It's not like everybody went. No i don't want that kind of receiver on my team. He was a different player back then. They passed up on him. Yes they did and there was a reason or reasons why they did. It felt like he was a workout. Wonder you saw all the pictures shirt off. You're going oh my god and then it gets on field and you go. Okay got moments here. And he apparently was using a slight by jim swartz. He's the defensive coordinator with the eagles. Jim schwartz was the coach. Detroit with calvin johnson and here is the question from a reporter to decay metcalf. What's your mindset going into a game where you know or you feel like you're going to see a lot of opposing teams number one quarterback what what's your mindset going into. I'm happy i'm getting a little respect Let you still got work to do One of the defense coach came up to me. And it kinda made me mad that he was like You know i was. I was in detroit with a mega trump. But you're not there yet No my mind. I'm not trying to be megaton. I'm trying to be me so You know had had a little chip on my shoulder. The whole game was that. Jim schwartz Yes okay jim. Schwartz was correct because decay. Metcalf has already where matron is then. He'll go into the hall of fame this year. Right megatrend is up for the hall of fame. Became metcalf is not where calvin johnson was. He's he has the capability. I think he's more like tarallo than calvin johnson. But did you use this as a slight. Maybe gosh appease. At this point jordan it took jordan. Ah longtime before he started using these artificial slights. Jim schwartz's giving him the ultimate compliment. I was with calvin johnson. You're not there yet. But you're on your way. I think he only heard the back half. Maybe it was the front part. Was a your your mind calvin johnson. You're not there yet. But you're on your way. Yes but why say anything. Before the game whether it's construed accurately or misconstrued. He doesn't need any extra bulletin. Board material to riled a guy up. He's already one of the best receivers in the league. No no no hold on. Do you think the. Jim schwartz goes. Where's where's where's Do came out. He's got a little edge to him that guy he's got a pass past thurs things up. I'm not sure what was behind them and thought maybe you can get in his head. I don't know if that was completely some complimentary. I don't decay completely was wrong and taking that as oh your mic. Compare me to a two year. Old calvin johnson on. I wouldn't put it past them. That he thinks he can get in his head all year. Coaches freaking software. I'm talking anybody on the other team. Before the game respect he had for him he went and sought him out apparently and said. Hey i was in detroit with calvin johnson. You remind me of him. You're not there yet. you're on your way home. Tell them that right before the game to your point. I think this is such a phony story. I think that decay medcalf. If you wanna use decay metcalf went out of his way to tell this story. Because i had nothing to do with this but this is something that was on decay. Matt cavs mind. It was truly bothering him. Yeah i can you know. Criticize jim schwartz on a variety of fronts. But not this. I thought he was just saying. Hey i was there. I was with calvin johnson remind me of him. You're not there yet. But you're on your way. He is on his way. He's not there yet. Yes point if i'm the next offensive coordinator faces. I go to him before the game. You're like jerry rice and gerald yourself not over to it and really think about your team in the playoffs not put too much into this game. Yes seton not that. I agree with what todd just said. But jim shorts does seem like the kind of guy who put his foot and i said that i could be critical. Jim schwartz not here. It doesn't seem like he's going like are the eagles that desperate like this is how we're gonna get into them. Hey doug peterson. I'm going to go over to decay metcalfe and say that he's reminds me. Johnson he's not there yet but he's on his way your that'll do it. That'll do it then. We'll win the game yet. That's really going to get a med. When you hear him to a future hall of fame man he's really going to be so mad if somebody says you're not bob costas on your way i don't go. I cannot believe that. Well now i would. I would take that as the ultimate compliment. He said you're not bob but you're on your way. Oh you would harbor that for years there. No way that'd be the every morning when we see we would hear well. I'm no bob cost. Why would joke about it on my way but i would never. I'll never be bob costas but if somebody said hey you're on your way i'd say well thank you. Yes and i hope to be better than him. Yes mclovin by. I agree with todd and complete. Jim schwartz is a lunatic. His version of this story is not what happened. he definitely said something to decay. He's the as he ever not said something. Like this five one quote from jim schwartz. It's not but if you're going to say it then you go. I can't believe people think you're mega tron. I was with megatrend. You're no tron. I then right then it works then. I know you're trying to get under his skin. Yes mclovin bottom line is you. Don't believe in bulletin board material and ironically bullets Material catapult your entire career. Yes someone made that costas remark to you. At least my. If i was like do i walk around the acting like i think i'm bob causes like why you even making that comparison with me not have you know. Walk around with this arrogant of thing that you think. You're bob costas. Why does that comedy of enough to be made the k. Mecca of could easily. Take that as i walk around like who i think i am that i'm the best ever. I'm calvin johnson just todd. First of all. I don't know what the hell you just said. Second of. you're the most sensitive guy i've ever known so you shouldn't be involved in this conversation. Okay even when i say hey good show. What do you mean. No so a great exactly. You're not the right guy to become ending on this. Now you're a. You're a good booker. Good you're you're one of the best booker. You're not scott shapiro for no but you're on your way. How would you take that all right. My my what. I would have the chip on my shoulder by booking every guest philip every segment very whether you wanted the guest or not. Well let's try it. Give it a shot. Be sure to catch the live edition of the dan. Patrick show weekdays at nine. Am eastern six am pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app. You own or rent your home. 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Or the seattle seattle seahawks win over the eagles. What should the headline be. It depends what city you're in philadelphia. The headlines are not pretty The fan base is you know in. This town's very passionate town They are very very upset. yesterday there was a lot of chatter in the city of philadelphia about tobacco was going to be jeffrey lurie was chiming in how he rosenstein to be chiming in Doug peterson deflecting the questions. you know when you're struggling football team and you have a struggling quarterback it. It's hard it is really hard. I've been through it personally. Now carson wentz has to work his way through it somehow someway. He has too much town playing like he's playing right now. I was wondering no. John's diaz sitting down. And just let him kind of absorb it from a different perspective as opposed to just going back out there and it feels like you get into bad habits or your confidence level starts to be depleted. And i i know jalen hurts isn't ready for this but i gotta think long term about carson wentz. How do you preserve him in a situation like this. Is you know dan. I you know. I look at every game on the coaches tape and evaluate that position about his as much as anybody and this has been really difficult to figure out what is wrong with carson wentz Is it mechanical is it. Cerebral is mental. The offensive line is the wide receivers play calling. Is it the analytics. I really can't put my finger on it. It's kind of puzzling to me. Because carson wentz has enormous talent He's got a rocket arm. He could run his powerful. he's big. he's strong if i would boil it down. I would say he's not seeing the field with clarity. He made some throws yesterday. That we're kind of kind of head scratchers as well and it's been that way all season long. He has not played through eleven games. A solid game at quarterback in the national football league opposite quarterback driven game. Your quarterback must play to a high level to win football games. Now i'm not gonna blame it all on him. I don't like jalen hurts coming in for one or two snaps a game. I went through that back in the day with randall cunningham or i would come out on third and seven or more random would come in. And he's breaks down the whole consistency of playing the quarterback position. I think for the team as well as the individual. But i chose joseph. Go that way. Why i don't know but i thought we would see more jalen hurts after eagles went over five on the first three possessions. Three and outs yeah. I did too. I just thought you know either. Put him in or don't put him in like you sort of put him in and then you take him out and as you know it's all about rhythm and you get that rhythm going offense gets the rhythm you get confidence there. But they don't have any of that would you. Would you start. Jalen hurts the. There's there's a reason jalen hurts is not starting. He's not good enough not that he won't be someday but with this pandemic that we're all dealing with right now. Kobe nineteen there was no offseason. Those are important. There was no training camp. That's important there. Were no preseason games developing on quarterback. That's important. I think it would be a disservice to jalen hurts. The put him out there. The number one goal of the head coach. The team is to win. You wanna put the best players on the field like you. The best chance to win apparently from the coaching staff and doug peterson jalen hurts. Not ready to step in. You could damage a young quarterback for his whole career. And i always think of a guy that always comes. Mike patrick ramsey who i thought had enormous talent with the washington football team now but he got beat up so bad they were losing it. He never recovered from that. So this a football team right now in philly. that's in a transition phase. This is not a team that's going to compete for the playoffs or a super bowl for for a number of years right now. This team needs to be retooled now. The question then now you have to ask. Doug peterson we get to retool with ask how he roseman ask geoffrey. Laurie who you retool with. Who's your quarterback it'd be. Who was the guy you're gonna hang your head on for the next three to five years. Who's more likely to be back next year. The coach of the quarterback. They'll both be back. I i just think it's so unfair to evaluate coaches front office. People you know the matt patricia. The bill o'brien dan. Grins these guys have fired. I mean in in football is a game of creatures of habit. You keep doing the same thing over and over again. And it's been the farthest thing from this season. So these coaches being held accountable for things that are out of their control. How would you like to be vic fangio on sunday and running running out football team where your quarterback hasn't played in two years and was in college and you expect to beat the war and saints. That's not fair to coaches. That's not fair to a football team. And i heard you talking earlier. This is not fair. The way the seasons playing out. We're talking to the former eagles quarterback working for westwood one and was on the broadcast call with kevin harlan last night. What did you think of seattle. I think they're a good football team. That has a chance to be a really good football team. Russell wilson's such a catalyst for them. Offensively and jamal adams. I'm tired. I opened the telecast if you're this game and carson wentz breaks huddle. He shouldn't locate number thirty three. That's the guy that really is going to dictate the tempo of the game. He blitzes about twenty four percent of the time he's going to be the catalyst or that football team. When you think of earl thomas and kam chancellor and the legion of doom ins gentle a jamal adams brings that to the football team and carlos dunlap amid season acquisition has given them that edge. Rusher that they need so they're getting better but how about decay metcalf. This guy is. He's unbelievable and i still don't understand darius slay shadowing him every single play gym shorts. Please mix it up a little bit. I mean you know what you got. He's getting beat for one hundred and seventy seven yards go to some zone go to some double teams. Do something a little bit different. It didn't seem they did. I want to play this for you. Because decay metcalf after the game. Talked about jim schwartz. Comparing him to calvin johnson. I want you to hear it. And then i want you to translate here force john. Here's the okay minute. What's your mindset going into a game where you know you feel like you're going to see a lot of opposing teams number one cornerback. What's your mindset going into it. I'm happy i'm getting a little respect Let ya still got work to do One of the defense. The coaches came up to me. And it kinda made me mad that he was like I was i was in detroit with Megatrend but you're not there yet Know my mind. I'm not trying to be megaton. I'm trying to be me so You know had a had a little a chip on my shoulder. The whole game was that. Jim schwartz Yes sir all right interpret this. What was kim schwartz trying to complement. Decay metcalf yes. I believe so. I don't think Over there to be antagonistic to him. I think he has great respect for him And certainly megatonne great player. And jim schwartz is in detroit when he was there so he's very familiar with them and they are. Both elite athletes omega tron was and certain decay metcalf. Dan you've been around game long. You know what goes on pre-game it'll these coaches are out there with their business cards in their pocket and they're they're renewing quainton with other teams. Any probably ran in ran in the decay and try it. I don't see it as inflammatory. I don't see jim that kinda guy. He could be quirky occasionally but he's never been that kind of guy usually very socially for the game. I thought it was a compliment because tk metcalf is not. Calvin johnson gave reminds me. He reminds me a little bit. More than a calvin johnson. But it's still a compliment. When i say hey but you're on your way. He's only been in the league a couple of years. Yeah i mean if someone came up to meet pre-game said john you look like joe namath. I'd be like really happy go. Wow that's a real compliment. You know if they came they said you look like he didn't play like i. Did you cross paths with nemeth. Oh yeah yeah. I was a. I grew up in buffalo new york. A suburb called lock one and buffalo bills season ticket holder and those with the old. Afl days you know the the bills and the jets at that time. And you know i went to. I went to a game and in those days you can literally walk on the field about five yards from the field and Joe nameless warming up the end zone. I remember seeing old number twelve there. Just spend it. I'm going i could do that. I do that kind of gave me some some motivation to want to work hard at my craft but also name through an effortless ball. I don't any of those real small shoulder pads but he had. He threw a beautiful depot. I i don't know what the difference is like. What is that. Jaws wear warren moon through. Maybe the best deep. I've ever seen jeff. George threw a great deep ball. But what is without that ability. They have throw this. Jeff blake. I thought for a number of years. The bengals won the best ball. Three some guys. Russell wilson right now through high arcing rainbow that drops down the chimney right in receivers hands. So it's getting deep balls. You gotta get the nose up in a good trajectory on the football and some guy. Just have that art and usually power. Throwers that's what. I was as a player and i see a lot of guys. Power throwers have a tougher time with their deep hierarchy throat. Because they're so used to fire indies. You know bullets in there to between linebackers and safeties and secondary players so it's harder developed that deep hierarchy thro well speaking to the deep ball. Tom brady and that offense in tampa bay. Are they running. The right offense for brady's skillset yes i i. I'm bewildered by some of the comments. That i you know that i hear from other people and again i i base a lot of you know my feeling on the screen lab right back there and i watch all the you know. The coaching tape on screen and tom brady is still playing at a very high level. It's going to take some time to assimilate into this offense and it's a different style offense but tom brady. Benchley will get this and they're gonna be forced to recommend. There's a lot of talent right now on that. Buccaneer offense it's gonna come together form. But why is there this disconnect. It feels like there's a little bit attention there with arians and are we creating this jaws. Yes yeah thank you. Dan i i really think i think the media just looking for something to talk about You know you got tom brady. I thought they were gonna go sixteen in oak because he acquired you know the greatest of all time the gold and all these weapons. Football is to consummate team game. The timing and rhythm of an offense has to be precise and exquisite. It is not right now but this receiving core down in tampa is very very good. They can run the football. I think their offense of lyon has to pick up somewhat. Because tom needs protection. He's a plant step throw guy he's not going to be mobile and slide move around the pocket so he needs help from his offensive line and the defense by the way. Todd bowles done a really good job with this. I think eventually they get a by this week. They're gonna start coming together. There's way too much talent. Okay we were just ripping jim schwartz for his defense decay metcalf. What the hell was todd. Bowles in the buccaneers thinking single coverage on tyreek hill. I wish i could answer that. John john i i have no idea i mean. He only had two hundred seventy yards in the first quarter was on pace for thousand yard. Receiving game jaws. I agree i think to those covers. Were blown coverages by the way But you leave the dimes at mahomes through though he he you know there's a couple of wide open and a couple of great girls. But that's what you get with patrick. Mahomes that's what you get with the tariq hill jason kelsey. I mean there is an increase. That's a wealth of a wealth of talent on that gps off. They're going to do that to a lot of people always great to talk to you. John thank you the best nagy buddy. Be sure to catch the live edition of the dan. Patrick show weekdays at nine. Am eastern six am pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app. When was the last time you watched your home movies. Do you have a vcr anymore. What about a film projector with technology constantly. Changing most families don't have weighed to enjoy their record memories trapped on vhs.

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Babes On Broad #61: The Definition of a Toxic Work Environment

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Babes On Broad #61: The Definition of a Toxic Work Environment

"Welcome to your favorite. Sports bra postive Jesse and same well. They're smart sexy and they're all thanks for tuning in and we hope you enjoyed the show took hello and welcome into episode number sixty one babes abroad. I'm sam wilson with my co host jesse town and we are the babes on broad brought to you by sp nation and bleeding green nation. The eagles are cleaning house and making moves we set at last week. Of course as soon as we record when it comes out just hours after the episode breaks carson. Wentz it's treated to the colts so we were early to the game. So now we're late to this game. I guess i knew as soon as every time it. I was like this is going to happen. You're welcome everyone because we everybody's welcome because it was day after day and we're like kim. This just happened yet. it was us. Yeah always sorry we you through it but we also ended your misery. So i mean at this point i guess you know. What do we know so. The eagles are getting a second round. Pick this year and the two thousand twenty two second round pick that can turn into a i. If carson wentz plays seventy five percents of the snaps or seventy percent of the snaps and the colts make the playoffs which is very possible for those in an afc where afc south where the texans have no direction. Jacksonville jaguars are abysmal. And the tennessee. Titans are good but also beatable and you have a defense like the colts. Do you know it's it's not far. Got there yet no. They got their missing piece yet. Improved dramatically with that piece so so it's not far fetched that they could possibly Win that division so it terms of some of the other rumors. The bears never made an offer. The colts were always the front runner. They also didn't budge on their initial offer. So all that extra b. s going on was for nothing And then the eagles will take a thirty three point. Eight million dead cap it. Which is the largest in nfl history. In my opinion the colts and carson wentz one nitrate. Oh one hundred percent a hundred percent because they had so much leverage we talked about this in our last episode when you have that much leverage why be an idiot and offer what is actually deserved of the player would one. You're taking on that salary and to no other teams won a deal. Wanna take on that salary one but then to want to deal with dramatics in all this stuff going on around you know what i mean and when carson comes out and says that he prefers the colts right and he's a he's a match made in heaven for him right now. Back to to frank reich. Press taylor's there's well. I didn't know micro was there too. He's out there and you know you've got the weapons you've got the offensive line. You've got a great defense. Those are the things that he had in two thousand seventeen all combined and you see obviously how well that worked out. So i mean i think that's the perfect place for him to go. Obviously it's it's just sad the way it unfolded and it's sad that the eagles are the dumpster. Fire that they are. I mean from the beginning. It's been lori. And how issue like. That's no secret. And they felt like they were stupid. And not taking russell wilson way back when and didn't wanna make that mistake again with jalen hurts and reportedly which which is fine. Okay sure but like they also reportedly only ever saw him as a backup. And i have three major issues with that because one. He's way more talented than just a backup he is. There's no question there too. You don't take backups. In the second round and three you don't bring you don't do those things and bring in competition for your franchise quarterback so for people that are like well. He should wanna fight for his job. No when you hundred twenty million dollar contract you you are the franchise got you. Don't fight for your job. The sixth receiver and third running back. They get competition. They fight for their jaw. The franchise quarterback. That's an asinine thing to do. From the start and the whole thing has just been a colossal waste of everyone's time of everyone's energy and everyone's talent like the eagles franchise specifically the two people spearheading. The whole operation. Should be so embarrassed by this pathetic job they've done like for carson wentz. I'm extremely happy for him. And i brought and this. I really believe this is the best thing for him for the eagles. It took one hour post trade for the reports. Come out stating that. The eagles plan on bringing in competition for jalen hurts and they couldn't even draft a quarterback at six and like yes. There's quarterback talent in this draft. Maybe not as much next year's draft okay but you've already wasted carson wentz. They really gonna already admit defeat on. This jalen hurts pick to before they even get a chance to give him a shot like screw it before they even started like. And then you know how ben howie roseman goes and calls his good friend. Adam schefter to make sure both doug peterson carson wentz or good slandered on their way out the door. And you know like it doesn't matter who's under center. It doesn't matter who's calling plays as long as you've got dumb. And dumber leading the franchise plummeting this team into the ground. Like we're gonna be stuck in the same routine. We'll be having the same conversation. Let's keep in mind. Multiple players have left the eagles and talked about the disrespect that they were shown by this front office mentioned that carson wentz is the farthest thing from a problem farthest thing from a locker room cancer and doug peterson carson. Wasn't the problem. Doug peterson wasn't the problem. But the quote problem was still there. Meaning howie roseman. Like the eagles are such a dumpster. Fire i don't know why anyone would want to be a part of it. I don't know why anybody wants to spend their money going to games. I say that like i'm not going to do it. Of course i'm going to do. But like i don't know i'm really going through it right now because i just can't believe we're here now and i think that's exactly like we tried to put words to but it's one of those things like there's never words to describe exactly what it is because it's whole situation is just so amazing. It's never happened before. There's no comparisons. There's really just no words and like with that being said i mean this one hundred percent ear right was a disaster situation created by harry roseman and enabled by jeffrey lurie from drafting Most recently because it probably stems back if we really want to get deep into it but most recently this whole situation started rambling up when they drafted jalen hurts and lied about his intentions. For him to leaking stories that pointed to doug peterson and carson wentz. Like there's just so much it's been going on and it's just so weird and if you really connect everything it's it's literally something we most likely will probably never see again in west. It's howie roseman. And jeffrey lurie continuing the cycle. It's just like such an anomaly and it just insane to me to think three years ago. We were cheering and thanking the football. Gods carson dog and then now one neither of them are even in philadelphia to schefter still putting out stories to make it look like they were the ones to blame which all goes back on. How like you said and three. The situation itself was so bad. That doug peterson needed a year. All because it was so taxing on him and carson wentz looked ecstatic as soon as his trade went through with indy. And he's already. There's been players posting videos of them facetime with carson and him saying how excited he is. He's already connecting with players. And he's ready to get and it's just insane like this whole situation is conjured up by howie roseman with like i said enabled by jeffrey lurie. And it just. They're the ones that like. They tried to own he. He outsmart everybody and just completely turned on them and sadly the city of philadelphia's just been kind of like thrown in the fire by association wouldn't choose to be but so we all just get that damper sadness out of it and then the two that were supposed to be under fire in everything they just get to leave and they're the ones that benefit from this whole situation inches so weird. There's it's really No words sum it up there. They just feel like you're talking in circles and you just say what happened just like i don't know we start. We started off by talking about this season. When you know after week one it was like who do we blame for all these different things right and it's like you know carson wentz played poorly but doug peterson had a terrible game plan. But there are no weapons of any kind because of howie roseman decision making and then it was this circle right and it never ended throughout the entire season. The circle was the same. But now there's one person left. It's one person who never seems to have a bad report. Come out about him. But meanwhile i can guarantee. I can almost guarantee you that the front office of the indianapolis colts was cackling laughing almost as hard as the minnesota vikings war room was on draft night when the eagles took jalen rager instead of justin jefferson again. That's not to say that jalen reagor can't show us something. Can't be useful to this team going forward but it was just like the obvious choice. Is there you just make it. Stop trying to be smarter than everyone else. Because you're actually the dumbest person in the room. I think that theory kind of because i'm going to call it like the how we don't even know how disease i don't know i think it's spreading across the philadelphia area. Just because of how many tweets is like the science of drafting and all this stuff and if they do take a quarterback or if they do take pits or if they do take smith or if they do chase and it's just like take the best player like take on you. Know what i mean like not a quarterback. I don't care if the best players do not one hundred percent prepared for a quarterback at six. I am prepared for it. I will not agree with it. I think i will go insane happens. I'm gonna have just bottle of wine. That's labeled if the eagles quarterback i'll be sad and then there will be a special bottle of wine that will be opened when and if that happens and whole thing will be by the end of the night. It's so sad because obviously we love this team. Unlike we've grown up loving this team and everything but the front office is making this team so hard at least for me making it so hard to root for them or love this franchise Why i guess. I could say the franchise but it just me in the front office i just you love the franchise and you love the players and you love this team but the way that the front office is acting in terms of like a business environment. That's that's the definition of a toxic work environment is what just turned me off man and it's really unfortunate because then you see other things like the eagles are a mess right now there i mean addition in addition to trading carson wentz. They cut to sean jackson. Which again the. None of these things are surprising. But cutting to shar jackson. A second time it's gut wrenching. Like you know one disagreed with trading for sean like everyone was ecstatic a seventh round. Pick to bring to sean jackson home. What the heck. No one told you to give him that money. No one told you re year twenty seven million dollar extension. No one told you to stupidity part about it is how much money we're losing for these people. That should be obvious. Wastebasket things like okay. We're trimmed down the fat. You know what. I mean right so but like cutting to sean. It's five point. Eight million dead money cutting alshon. We'll be five and a half in dead money and like of course we don't have a super bowl without alshon jeffery. He was spectacular in that. Two thousand seventeen season playing with a torn rotator cuff. You can never ever ever take away. That phenomenal touchdown catch in the super bowl. You can't without him. were not here. Which is but after that. It's been nothing it's been useless. It's been leaking reports from the locker room. And you know they'll they'll most likely end up cutting me jackson as well who was an under the another one of those that was like. Yeah it's great to have but why. Why did you sign him. Yeah and we saw no real difference maker with having me jackson or hargrave or any of them. You just bunched all these people you still saw. Fletcher cox getting double teamed half the time. So he wasn't able to prefer form. We wanted him to. So it was just like one of those situations where you're just like okay. So maybe that one. I'll give you make for bringing in and signing into some kind of that contract because it did make sense when we're bringing him and it was exciting like but they're not want i'll give him the least break for sure. Sure i don't disagree with bringing him in but if you don't we talked about it at the time that had happened there was no need for them to give him all that money. We had other places that they needed to address things and one hundred percent. There was no need to give him all that money like there was. There was no reason for that. They were just the this biggest issue howie roseman german. Leading howie roseman. Just chuck his money around. Willy nilly with no plan involves. There's no reason to any of these decisions that are being made none. I wanna know what's annoying about. It is larry doesn't care because there's a cap so he's like okay either way. I'm going to be spending around this much money. Who cares you know what i mean if there was an. Mlb situation where they didn't have cap and he was like okay. Wait wait wait like you're really rising up this task because it could go on forever asked when he would care but i think now rose with no salary cap. Wish like maybe that will finally turn jeffrey. Loria against howie roseman. I don't care if i'm spending larry's money after this. Oh giving me no cat god. That's a for his since realistically how like with without looking at their opponents without knowing who's on the roster at this point without let's call what it is without knowing who the starting quarterback is going to be september county games. Do you realistically see this team winning. I think it's way too early in like you said. We haven't even looked at the schedule but we can just play it. Count at awful and of sieges projections or nfc east. I should say projections so washington's going to get better obviously New york's rising air if they keep saquon there's been rumors brought that and stuff And then i'm blanking cowboys. Oh they get back back. Yeah i team in the nfc straight. Now i was just saturday. Say i think they're over. I think they're over. Unders going to be five games. Honest to god. I didn't five good one. I think when it comes out from vegas it's going to be over under five. I think five good one. I think it's fair because we literally picking this time last year this time last year we were getting ready to be on top again in the worst seats denver. Or least we thought we would be two and now it's just i'm going into the season mike. Okay literally were the worst team in the nfc. So that was just a dumpster fire. This year i was like get us a secondary. Get carson some weapons. Let's let's wrote early and here we are. I wanna die a little bit but we're gonna take a quick break when we come back. We will talk about everything. Going on in the rest of the city of philadelphia sixers phillies flyers. You're listening to the babes on broad on an radio support for this episode comes from locker room the app. That's changing the way we talk. Sports locker room is a sports fans. Dream come true. It's a live audio platform that lets you connect with other fans experts. And even the athletes themselves locker room makes it easy to start your own conversations. Talk about the latest rumors takes news and teams you care about most join massive watch parties for all of your friends to react together in real time as you celebrate a buzzer beater or suffer the agony of a crucial bricks. Free throw and if you've got a bunch of supremely spicy takes you like to fire off during luck can even record the conversations if you want and released him as a podcast. So it's time to start thinking about catchy titles it's all totally free and available at the ios apps store right now so go download it today. Locker room changing the way we talk sports. Welcome back into episode number sixty one babes on broad suggest. You said we're taking it around philadelphia. You started out with the sixers. I love the sixers. The sixers of the only thing bringing me joy so the all sides learning at clearwater pictures are clearwater. Picks lear water which i was freaking. I know makes me jealous So tired of looking at the snow trudging through the snow. This is such bs anyway. Joel embiid and ben simmons all stars this year not surprising on either one. Joel is a starter ben as a reserve. I thought it was interesting. I don't know if you saw this doc. Rivers was calling around to the coaches in the nba. Because the coaches select the reserves. So doc was calling around to the different coaches in the nba. Basically advocating for them to select ben into bias and he felt like he he feels like i think in general ben. Simmons isn't appreciated enough for what he does which i completely agree with because everybody just folks focuses on the shop. Apparently a bunch of the coaches that he called were like shocked that he felt that he had to do that. With ben simmons because they were like this is not a question which my heart sore I might be a little in saying that. Tobias harris was snubbed. But there are a few all-star choices that are very questionable to me across the board. And i think that the format for selection is questionable. I would love to know how you feel about this. In my opinion. I think that records should matter in some capacity because for example bradley beal was named a starter of the for these. Of course bradley beal should be in consideration to be an all star. No question of course. He's absolutely balling out of his mind but his team is so terrible so it doesn't matter like there're guards in the east that are all star caliber and they're the reason that their team is winning. Bradley beal is great. But that team sucks and he's not doing anything to help it like. For example the the bulls like the bulls aren't great. But zach levine is playing so well that he has the bulls relevant julius randle for example. He is an all-star. The knicks haven't made the playoffs in. Since when i don't even i couldn't even tell you but they like if the season ended today they would make the playoffs because of the way julius randle play. Now i i get what you're saying and i think maybe that should factor in to a point and i think it all obviously just gets broken down into position and like chews up for grabs way but i think honestly it hurts to buy specifically to have joel embiid ben simmons on his team because joel embiid i mean. He's one of if not the top. Mvp candidate so like they could argue with. They're looking at it from your perspective of wins that he's not the reason for the win. It's joel embiid. So that hurts him in that factor. When you look at it that way you know what i mean. Yeah but then you look at okay so let let me give you another for instance. The nets have three players in their kyrie irving kevin durant and james harden to think. That's out. I think james harden should be the starter because he was still doing the same thing in playing as well in houston before he got traded. And he's been playing all these games. I understand that. Cairo took his absence for his mental health. Support that wholeheartedly. I don't support the way that he went about it and just like didn't say anything because us mere mortals here not making millions of dollars is professional athletes. Don't have that option to do that for our mental health. I'm fully in support of doing whatever you need to keep yourself right and keep yourself okay and i absolutely support kyrie using his platform to talk about that. I just don't agree with the way he went about so he missed. All those games and kevin durant has missed a bunch of games with injuries and covid related things. Well again. well. I think all of them should be considered for all considered all. I don't think that two of them should be starting the two of them that have missed as many games as they have. I just. I just don't think that i just don't think that. The format of selection does justice some of these players. And what is await for starters. Obviously it's a lot of fan votes. Is it all fan and media and player and they any like way out. Another not really. They're evenly weighted. And yes so. That's not fair to me. And then coaches select the reserves. Yeah that's that's not fair to me especially when you have like twitter and stuff because if there is a bigger social media aspect to her a bigger fan base. You know what i mean. Yeah obviously the popularity is gonna outweighs. So i don't like that one. And i have a bigger one like i don't know i don't know i don't know what the solution is to the problem. But maybe something like your team. Starters can only come from teams above five hundred at the time of voting or the top six. The you know. Stop six seeded teams at the time of voting. That's where the starters have to come something like that. I don't know. I just. I just think there's there's always like devon booker. He's not an all star. Chris paul's and all star. Chris paul's playing well but not better than devon booker. Yeah damian lillard not being an all-star starter and luca being an all-star starter. The mavs were under five hundred until they beat the celtics who are also under five hundred yesterday. You know what i mean like. I don't know. I just think it's so backwards. And even lucas said he was like a lillard. Should've been a starter not me. And i'm like yeah. You are correct sir. I definitely think there's a flaw. But i don't know if it's that i think is the floor. I don't know records should have to be considered in some capacity. Yeah like there's no reason that both jayson tatum and jaylen brown should be all stars and their team is. I think fifteen and sixteen right now. I think jalen brown honestly if yvonne looking at this right now. I think jalen brown should be an all-star starter overcome my honest opinion because the key has played out of his mind so far this season he's been fantastic and the games that they have won. They have won because he is as good as he is. But yeah it's more of just like when everybody's thinking about this if they factor in all right which they don't or it's just looking at stats without considering that like kyrie hasn't played as many games. You know what i mean. Yeah but back to the sixers benches terrible and we have this conversation every year and never area. We finally have a bench and then don't Shake milton him. Being out for a couple of games with injuries really hurt them For court must start last night. In place of seth curry and he played really well. But that's something we need to consistently he needs to be able to come onto the court and make four to six threes per game. That's how they treat him to like the team. I think sees him as that kind of guy but he doesn't always step up to that and it's winds in the first quarter alone. Last night. i was like excuse me sir if you could have sixteen points in games across the board confusing right. This is great but that they don't help there. What about billy's what's going on. Billy's the the phillies. I'm excited about him. I mean obviously you have. Jt rural new. To- hurt his thumb. He is expected eye opening day. I know philly just can't help. It was the same day carson wentz got traded. And i was not okay and rob body then sent me a video of him asking. Jd like you broke your thumb carson. Wentz got traded. Philly fans are really struggling. What do you have to say that he was like just this is for you. I was like thank you. That's a true friend. Billy fans are struggling aka just town now so it's positive though because obviously it's not where you want to see but it is in his throwing hand so at least it's not in. His catching hand has a thumb injury. Like that and you're catching hand catching guys throwing ninety. Eight to one hundred. Yeah that might hurt a little bit but So it's his throwing hand on. He's working on a project to do backed by opening day and he's still already posted videos. He's still down there getting working. So when you have a guy like that he'll be fine. resource skins. He's actually doing really well from his. Tommy john surgery. Yeah and it's insane me that he's expected to be backed by opening day. So i'm hoping they're not gonna rush him in there because it kind of makes me nervous about that. When he had his surgery. They expected him to be ready for opening day. So this isn't like oh. You're ahead of schedule. It was like that was what they expected from him. I wonder if out of setback. I wonder if it just kasumi to me. Just seem soon. I don't know if it's just because i'm like a worried. Nancy but i wonder if the fact because he is a first baseman. Also plays into that. You know what i mean. It's not like he's a pitcher or obviously because that would be a much longer but like stuff like that And then also another huge thing to me obviously bias with this but on the announcement last thursday that the m i l b so the minor leagues are actually gonna have season. I think that's incredible because that's one thing people obviously there like all we just wanna be able to go to the pro games one if you don't like a minor league game you're absolutely insane because it's best atmosphere in sports. I believe by us again but now we know what it is. That's why i love covering that even just in college. You know what i mean. So it's huge though because one of the things people don't understand is that's guys that are next in line and that's really would have acted the form systems for every team across the mlb. If those guys would've had two years it's all i it's going to be interesting to see the effect that it's had just because they were only allowed have sixty guys practice with them last year. Oh year play. You know what i mean. It's already going to be interesting. See that kind of impact just in games this year in the minor leagues this year. Yeah that's one thing people weren't i don't think really graphs that affect so it's awesome to see that is happening and i'm hoping expecting fancy back for those just in certain areas at least because of all the talks that Mlb's expected how assuming that minor league games we'll have them as well if the areas are good because it's outdoors should have some kind of codes and hoping for the best there. Yeah i hope so. Do i would love to be able to go to some phillies games this year. And you know if plan close enough road trip. Who on one team. That's not doing so hot right now. Do not look good. They lost the raiders in a shootout on thursday and then got obliterated by the bruins in tahoe and again. The byron's their kryptonite. Bruins are in first place right now. They're they're kryptonite. I saw on taryn hatrick during the game so it might even have gone up since she tweeted it. But so against carter heart in like four games against the bruins. They've scored twenty goals against carter heart an eighteen games against other teams in the league for heart. They've only scored like action note. It was more games but they've only scored like eighteen goals in four games. The bruins scored twenty goals against carter heart and in even more games obviously than that. They've scored eighteen the other teams combined. That's not twenty four. Got up twenty four because that game and was so high scoring wondering if it yep twenty. Four twenty four goals now granted. I just looked at the flyers games. I don't know if there's any of those games at brian. Elliot played but actually it's against the bruins. The flyers have led up twenty four goals this season. Actually that makes sense because it would have been twenty because they took carter hard out in lake tahoe for the really racking up and get the flyers or shorthanded right now but now they fall onto eight and four only eighteen points fifth place in the division and two of their four losses have come to sub five hundred teams like the rangers and not the other night and then the sabers whooped them six one like their mess from every angle right. Now really disappointing. After how impressive. They were last season and how they were. You know how good they were defensively. And there's not there has not been much change to the roster now you haven't. They had a really great start this year right. They rarely been in going up and down within the talk. Three this whole season until old. Covid instance kind of happened in through off right. Is he already declining before the head. Yeah i was gonna say. They started declining before that. But there is still kind of floating around that three spot and then once that whole cova debacle happened and they're still getting guys back and try and all that has really brought him down and it's one of things that you're just like Is it the team. Is there something going on or is it just like do. We have to chill out a little bit because it a covert related. I don't know what gen in in a blur defense has been terrible has it. Has i think you know walk. Quarter heart has been disappointing in some games. It's not. There's no reason that he should be under as much pressure as he is. Pretty consistently in most of these games. And i understand. You know we talk about this with basketball. We talk about this with baseball as well. It won lopsided game where you know like the phillies a couple of years ago loss like sixteen to to the dodgers and then came back and want then won the next night. You know what. I mean like outliers like that habit. The sixers getting blown out by the cavaliers four games into the season after they had a really good stretch. These things happened right like in a long season like that. There are going to be off nights. There's going to be tough losses. There's going to be really dominant wins and you just kind of have to figure out what that team is in the midst of all that and right now. I don't know what this flyers team is. Because they've had the commanding winds they've had the blowout losses and they've had those in the middle kind of edging out a good team or just barely losing to a good team. I don't know what they are and it really concerns me. Because i did have high hopes for them coming into this season i think ultimately they do have that good core and they have a great coach lane being so i think they'll start getting it back on as we get closer to the end of the season because it is just the consistency thing because like you mentioned the overtime walls against the rangers and also the bruins but then right before that. They had a great winner of the house. You know what i mean. It was a blowout win. over the caps. Basically so they're kind kinda just inconsistent and we just need to see that consistency common hoping it comes out but i did just look up who they played a night. And it's the rangers. obviously this. they're not people aren't going to hear this today right but there. I don't know what the line is. But i would put money on that game because i don't think they're gonna lose to rangers twice within a week's time and they get clogged rubik. Yeah so i mean hopefully as they get some of these guys back and give them a little bit of a spark but i you know the sixers are giving me lots of hope. I'm excited for the phillies. And i need the flyers to pick up their slack as well because they haven't tangible. I need all three of them combined to help me get through this eagles off season. I don't know if i can do it without all three of them together. And it's a mess. It's a mess. But that is our episode for the day. Thank you so much for listening to episode sixty one of babes on broad as always thank you to. Sba nation bleeding nation. Make sure you're following all of our social media's checking out our recipes on our website and everything like that we are the babes on broad on radio.

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The Kist & Solak Show #76: The Sort of Super Bowl Recap

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The Kist & Solak Show #76: The Sort of Super Bowl Recap

"Michael kissed Benjamin. So lab, it's the kissed and Solex show presented by SP nation and Lee green nation. You are flying high on the kissed and so lack show this episode. Seventy six brought to you by the five folks at SP nation and pleading green nation. I'm your host, Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed and fell as always joined by the best dog on co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He has Benjamin select follow him on Twitter at Benjamin. So elect that's L A K. Ben, how're you doing brother? Mike day is a good day to be alive. It's a great day to be a football fan yesterday. But it was okay. I got my full eight hours of sleep. That's a nice Remm cycles last night frigging shirt, but happy Taylor Hart episode good to be here in the first of fischel offseason podcast Gissin, so actual how you doing? I'm doing well. And we have to start off with the corrections. Emissions from Lascaux, Ben because we were talking about Georgia running back Elijah Holyfield draft. That's correct Holyfield the son of Vander Holyfield famous. Boxer. And you corrected me and said it was Holly field. Combining CBS they said hot field. Listen. Higher. Standard. Ben is a good player and questions. No questions at these all issue crushes emissions on the way. I don't think we talked about a money. Hooker on the podcast here. We're talking about him in slack channel. Amman hooker. That I was safety is fricking. Good jerusalem. You had you said you have like a d three on him. I do coward his day to player. You're gonna drive you're going draft him early fourth-round in these going to be awesome desma king dropped to the fifth. He's as well as as been king coward, and he's gonna heavy similar role. I can project him very easily. I have concerns about the profile just like with King County is going to drop. I'll take him. I'll take him in the fourth. He is smart, dude. He is really good in it feels like the dress unity stumbled upon him like all at once. Like, we all got to his film at the same time. Nobody say classic example of like, oh, well, this junior declared a nobody thought he was going to declare right? So I I know a couple of people that are in the Iowa area, and whatever that is got that mid west element, Chicago looking at Hooker. I was like, yo what and. Yeah. We had no clues got like everybody thought. It'd just going back like nobody any beat on him declaring no Asians were like do laying the groundwork with him nobody zero buzz, right? And that's what other people I've talked to in the draft community of satellite yet. Nobody from the midwest on scout soon declare. So it's a classic example, it just like a super late declaration from guy who had one year strong production takes you awhile to get there. Another name Darwin Thompson, the Utah state running back a Juku product goes to Utah state is small is super productive leads the mountain west yards per carry and then come down through junior season. And like I had somebody tell me like, oh, yo Darwin Thompsons gonna declare like, I don't know who is that. Like what like I don't care, and then he declares it. It turns out. He's quite he's day three player for me. But he's gotten NFL future right in like a one year Juku, Utah state guy on like you this is how late risers come into the process. It's guys who declare that. We didn't expect to declare our guys who were miscast in their system who good all-star circuits. There's always a ton of like people who. Gain a attention. They gain, you know, people return to their tape in this part of the process I can name one for you from last season, his vaunting Maddox. He went to the combine in absolutely blew every agility test out of the frigging water. He also came in with his twenty nine a half inch arms, which was a problem. But like I have a tweet from last year, and I can find it to see all the names. But it was like all right like because of the combine like here these players that I want to let go watch again, and I had Maddox down. I had Troy aptly down the safety outta. He burned Penn's Penn State who ran a slate of sub for four I'm marquees Valda Scanlon the X NC state wide receiver went to university of Florida tested. Great ended up going through to the Packers. And or in Berks, the Vanderbilt linebacker was a safety convert who Packers drafted a day to like this happens. Like these are players. I had heard nothing about until that time. And then they all were drafted and all provided snaps this year meaningful snaps their team safer after you got injured now Vigo. Absolutely. So yeah. The strap process is fun because I mean. Even this morning, and we're gonna be talking about the Super Bowl in this show. But as you know, it wasn't there's not a whole lot to talk about with it. But we will dive into the recap of the Super Bowl. But I just had a moment this morning where I was watching Utah state tight end. Dax Raymond who I liked by the way, I stumbled across Darwin Thompson the running back because I see him shredding the San Jose State defense for two hundred fifty five all purpose yards. And like who is this kid? So I look up I see he's declare for the NFL draft. And then I see right as I out a video of him as Dame Brugge ler. Awesome Dame Brugere tweet out that he's a combine. Nah. But I'm like, oh, man. Okay. Cool like, so there's actually some serious buzz around this, dude. And he's nice dudes like five nine one ninety five built and has jets like this is when you stumble across guys like that in the process, and the I mean scouts doing the same guys declare and you go to their tape. It's an exciting time. I don't think Thompson given athlete to be honest. I think if you you he has a he has gaming it's Michigan state in his games. BYU mountain. West was good. But like I like using that Michigan. Eight in that BYU film BYU's got fast defense, and he doesn't look nearly as quick as he has some of the mountain west film. And that's the concern with the smaller school guys. You wanna see the speed at shop in Michigan state is a tape that I have of him that's actually next up on the docket. So you kind of go through this evolution with these players. Right. So I wasn't huge on top slow disappointed. But we won't talk discovering. Utah state skill position players which man I would take us longer to get into this conversation now that wide receiver number one rung quaver Tarver questionable hands, bro questionable hands. But he can. Yeah. Thing is it's definitely concentration drops and not hamstring issues. Because he's got big Mets any make some great catches. So I think it's concentration stuff red zone. Young man is a problem. No man's a long explosive physical, dude. And so I haven't watched him. I think he was pop in for me when I was watching Thomson. I've already I watched X Ray, I loved extra. I'd update my position rankings my top ten withdraw updated of the draft dot com. Tie-down is the hardest group for me. So frigging tight. It's unbelievable. Like, it's I not to Hawkins sin is my number one at Iowa. I know Hopkinson his teammate font and earth Smith junior out of Alabama. I know they're my top three. Correct. Everything else is just like like the order not really or those three. Like, I think I don't think Hopkinson fun in earth Smith will change. I don't think funds gonna test that much better than Hopkinson, especially when you adjust for density to make them flip. And I think Irv Smith is kinda just like a good overall athlete. He's not looking credible athlete. So they'll probably stay. But then after that like, let's see four I have Isaac Nawada. You got Dawson knocks who've got starnberger, right? So four have. Who is not favorite person in the world should be rightly Ridley because if not all the drama around Riley Ridley his team at Georgia. We'd all be fighting as not who has like six catches over's career. And yet have a top sixty player on his unbelievably great long speed. He's got great hands. And then he's a combo player. He's probably the second best combo player. Besides Hopkinson in terms of he's a fantastic blocker in every empower down block reach block angles combo second level. He's off alignment as to what your sixty pounds is. Then really really great in that regard. It's gonna be a future title one. My five is Jay stern burger who every game. I watch him. His grade is getting better. Okay. So I haven't seen stern burger. He's like on the top of my list, cause I'm kind of going through teeth tight ends today. Tell me about stern burger give me the elevator pitch on what I should be looking for what I watches film unit. How coaches make stupid comparisons that make no sense. Yes. The comparison that was made for stir by JIMBO Fisher. Actually makes a little bit of sense. Okay. He wins like Zakar. It's winds. He really really does. Dude is very quick through his brakes, and very a very physical. Good leverage down the field. Always wins always gets into space in a smart again, sewn. He's just always open right something. He's not separating. But he's just get to right. Just get shifty, dude. But yeah. And the thing is now serger out as the hands that hurts us and he's not as polished like it's a similar win. But obviously like this after the thing is stubborn probably faster in terms of like what he is right now. You know, what I mean like, I don't know what is running these days, but like burger coming out is probably quicker than was coming out. Just in a straight line, which is really nice 'cause urges isn't super gray on just like seem routes and Slumberger can win for you. There. Seduce got wheels. He's not gonna block you will. I don't think ever he has a frame that kinda looks like he's like six five to fifty. But I don't really think is just not his game. He doesn't have great hip hinge. She's not super flexible down there, the Jilani as accordingly. Bad. That's the other thing with artisan break tackles, but full route tree that you could imagine giving tight end you can give progressive no problem. And so he's very exciting for me for a team similar to Philadelphia that wants to keep tight ends on the field but regularly flex them out. So as to like say like over eleven personnel until go empty, right? Which like, hey, if you are super last night. That's how the patriots ended up scoring on ramps. Is they went in like twenty two personnel and went empty because I was going to jam the Rams into base personnel. And then forced linebackers to sprint downfield carcasses doesn't go. Well, so I I really likes number in that regard. So there's the comparison I think probably if you're looking for a more like level comparison one that's not as you know, over in vicious is probably Austin Hooper, another Sanford tight end like I'm not getting it in. I'm not getting to original here. But like that's really kind of where you're looking at this point love it. Yeah. And you mentioned Super Bowl fifty three. So let's talk about it. So we're gonna table that draft discussion. We're gonna be talking about this at length. I mean, me and Ben could talk about this stuff for hours. All I mean, we talked about nobody who will be of interest to the eagles for greatness exam. Maybe hooker. But yeah. So let's talk about this Super Bowl fifty three real born burner. Patriots win thirteen to three you mentioned that twenty two personnel that the patriots used on probably the best drive of the game. They just went mad and style and they went with the same play over and over. They went twenty two personnel. They put the running back out wide for a coverage indicator. They put element in the slot in motion as a second coverage indicator, and they just ran Hosoi juke, which is a concept that me and marks Kofi talked about on the cube Scotia that they would probably run it was very successful for him in Hoss's. Basically, there's two hitches on the outside. Those two seem routes inside of those guys and then an-and has an option route in the middle and they were able to hit those for big gains. I think the curl I they were able to hit the the big one that set up touchdown by Sony Michelle, but Bill Barnwell put on a piece for ESPN where he called the performance by the patriots defense the best. We have ever seen. There's some interesting data to support this that he put out there. Barnwell took regular season points per game for Super Bowl teams. Then took their point scored at and spit on a percentage. So what that looks like is for instance, in two thousand thirteen the Seahawks limited Broncos team that averaged thirty seven point nine points per game only eight points in the Super Bowl, which was twenty one point one percent. That was the third best time. The patriots limited a Rams offense. That averaged thirty two point nine points per game in the regular season to only three points over four percent better than the second place. Cowboys while the dolphins to three points back in nineteen seventy one. So that's actually an interesting way to look at it, and Sean McVeigh said himself he was out coached. And it's funny because we talked about the lions Rams game from early December allot that's were the see-saw started to come down on the other side as is figured out the Rams of it. But nobody noticed it in that game. Because the Rams ultimately won by two scores. Bill check and defensive coordinator, Brian floors, apparently loved that game plan from the lines the used and took pieces from it to construct their own plan. And what the plan looked like sexually similar to what the eagles did. Which was deployed quarters coverage which also adds extra defenders close to the box and really take away the weakside zone the outside zone the middle of the field passes. And if you watch the patriots played with a whole or Robert defender a lot to take away these typically easy short to intermediate stuff in the area. But also, really confused. The Rams offensive line was stunts and games. That's the big one. This was really a masterpiece by Bill check and Brian for as we can dump on the game day for not being excited. I get that offense wasn't great for their part. But this was on the possible, by the way that the lions bears the eagles had success against McVeigh from weeks twelve to fourteen really even in the past. When Bella check went up against McVeigh. When when McVeigh was still a coordinator. I think that's part of the reason that I love this game plan from Bella check so much because there's the macro of it. There's a micro of it. If you decide how far back you when. A look, and you can take pieces from all of it. And it all had a very clear purpose. And it was extremely effective. Baseball, truly it is awful. I'm Phillies writer Justin clue. Join me every week along with John Stolnis. Liz Rozier, and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discuss all the ways the Phillies of hurt us on our podcast hitting season as well as the storm, anecdotes and rar emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning. Subscribe to the good fight. And you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us. Valid check who has spent twenty years taking away. What in opposing team does well faced a team that has been enormously successful by doing like one thing really, really. Well, like, we laud the simplicity of the McVay offense and that ballot. Check just took away. The this is simple stuff. You wanna do? We're gonna take it away. Like, it's. Yeah. It's it's it's Bill chicks usually using kryptonite. And he came across the most superman superman who was heavily rely on just like one thing like have one. Huge achilles heel. You know what I mean? Obviously like I didn't predict a three point game for the Rams. I thought it'd be able to score more a lot of predictions coming into the game. Where like I just don't think the Rams I gave the ram seventeen points. My final prediction, which would have been one of the lowest scores all year. I expected bell to be able to to take away a lot. What the Rams said? Well, and you expect McVay to adjust a little better. I think number one whereas he kinda came out and ran his head into the same wall. The real story that surprised me. And I think the reason that you saw three points that we talk about McVay under pro golf on a pressure which. Golf outside of structure, and it was very funny because the universe was very mean to Jared Goff yesterday. I was very mean ajar yesterday Addy great to write. I wanted the Rams to win, but I had an overall net positive Super Bowl because I was able to make a ton of Jared Goff jokes match made me happy for all the for all the times that we've talked about golf on this show like that is the ultimate brand moment. And I was enjoying it which which it's funny because when I was in mobile with that with the draft network. That's like if you're if you're on the football Twitter cow crabs Jim Marino, Trevor Secombe, John ledger in a lot of football Twitter. Greg late at night like it was like eleven on Thursday Raleigh exhausted. We got the conversation of golfers Wentz. And I fully expected my very rational friends to be at least divided on the topic. The great analysts everybody was off of her wedding. I was shocked and when you're the only one who's went over Goff and your eagles fan. It's very easy to get bullied into. All yours Homer. I really don't. I really just think as a better player than golf, but whatever on. Want to post on Gough Wentz Dak off of their film? I think it'd be so interesting to you know, evaluators to compare. But that's that's gonna take some time. That's like eighteen games of watching at least now Wednesday offer, whatever when we've talked about golfing. The eagles went to play the Rams as we said, listen like have you if you can take ways for treating put pressure on him Goff, really really just struggles outside of structure struggles out of context most quarterbacks do, and it's a great trait. Patch Mahomes Aaron Rodgers to be so good out of structure. Sometimes it's dangerous because you leave structure when you don't have to something we've been seeing with Aaron Rodgers in recent years, but it's a really really great trait at the NFL. Visit you turn garbage into gold to take from zoom awfully would just you. You can create from nothingness, but for Gough, data wise, and film wise, it affects him more than the typical delta. I think it's very clear, I think even if you're a huge Goff proponent, you argue the fact that like. His drop off from clean pocket. Play to pressure. Play is astronaut Michael even three K who I had on here from turf showtimes preview the game. So that Gough is very tied to the success of his offensive line. Look analytics Bill tell you that under pressure stats for quarterbacks are very sticky. And I get that that's probably largely true for Jared Goff ause. You have to do is watch him against pressure. And it'll tell you it's probably going to be stickier for him than most. He has a serious issue with being able to face the fire and step in the snake pit when he knows he's going to get hit. He phase off things so easily. It's so weird, man. And it's and it's like, you know, like, okay the interception as Gilmore in the near red zone where it was very clear they sent zero blitz. They were plus one on the rush that plus one Russia has gone through ability. Like, that's like the line is like the line missed a pickup there were set like sex Russia's coming for five passengers seven for sex. I remember it was once that especially when a clear rusher that's coming down. On the barrel down the beget right hand quarterback is right in your lap. So he's your responsibilities your job to make him miss. Get the ball out before him find hot whatever Goth throws up a prayer that no chance, right? That plays easy to remember. Because it was a huge interception that sticks in your mind to jump out. A branded cooks like the that is not and this is so crucial. That is not an isolated event. It really really isn't guys likely. We like, you know, like all the evidence overacting to one game. I think if you go back, and you watch a lotta Rams games. You'll find that when Gough is responsible for a Russia when there's a free rusher. When those pressure coming Goth crumbles, he does not have good escape ability. And he does not deliver good balls when he's throwing over unadjusted platform. You can't step into the throw his Justice arm angle. And like you said, I'll we'll every quarterbacks on free rushers. Yes. Not to the degree to which Jared Goff is there's a young man by the name of Cam Kamnu typically gets away from that guy. Lamar jackson. It's away from that guy air Rogers. Mahomes, they go then you have quarterbacks like Brady breeze. I was talking about a league quarterbacks here. But what we think Jared office in this eleventh highest scoring offense in NFL history. Write these were able to get the ball out to an accurate safe place. They're able to get throwaways they survived for another down. Whatever it is Gulf wasn't able to do that. He was he was missing guys coming open underneath just the I've held which is why. And I go back to a third down. It was third seven. They were backed up inside their own red zone. And it was a third and seven past the tip Jerry gobs under pressure. It was a shallow crosser. And he wanted to get the ball of the shell across her against pressure. Now, there was a whole defender sitting there his instead of going cover one of the blitz and blending deep safety. They went cover one robber. They went with the whole player because that's where the ball's typically ghost which Belgium taking what you do best that Bose pick sex. If it wasn't tips most likely, I mean, he could have dropped it like Dont'a Hightower did to start third quarter. Another good example. But like this is what we're talking about here. So why why is all this matter? Well, okay, I. No better than golf. I'll go to the film. And I'll let you know what I do know is this would the patriots front force. I front seven into the Rams offense of line to the story of the game. Yeah. In terms of when they regularly showed a five-man front. So as to make outside zone stretch zone that wives own week that Tony romo's talking about more difficult read because you're filling every gap from the snap. And so it's harder to work up into the second level here alignment, which muddies the reads in your linebackers free. Cool the ability to rush three slash four from a five-man front and winless twist stunts confusing often the line that was tremendous. I mean, one the the war whenever NFL word is profits line this year, which right? I don't think they should have won it. But either way they are up there in conversation the replaying fit tastic football in the playoffs. So right now to just generally can found them is remarkable. And I think speaks to the success that they found in the trenches for years. It comes from the ability to have hybrid players, Trey flowers Dont'a Hightower. Our end Kyle knowing who Hightower invent Noyer probably the best blitzing linebacker combo in the league, and they're like not the mode of linebackers. We think needed like it's not like the anti derrius Leonard. And yet they're so successful. You know, what I mean, they're not great coverage guys, but they blitz very, well, very effective, and they can line up on the line and still be a problem. I mean, we're talking about patient's fronts front seven that's missing their second round pick frontiers. Derek rivers that has Danny Shelton who was considered like pretty much a Boston Cleveland canes. Snaps like this. It's it's pure scheme. One hundred percent understanding situational play and the tendencies of team. They're facing regularly generated pressure generated as much pressure as Rams defensive line. That boasts four former FrontEx, right? Like this just it's that's that is virtuoso ended. You can't there's nothing to be said about it. That was the story on the game the amount of pressure. The patriots were able to get with a front that still remains sound against wide zone rant then signing. The Rams offense Rome. Oh made the point where he said like you want to force Goff to be a drop back passer without play action. And the patriots had that done by having the second quarter. Right. Come on. They got exactly what they wanted. They put the Rams exactly where they wanted to to have them. And it was a great game plan. Fantastic game. Plan executed very well off. I I like in gos- to the cowardly lion. Trying to play hero ball. Something's don't mix. And that's what was going on with him for me. So another shot at Gough departing shot before we transition the conversation. Anybody who says, you know, the Rams should consider letting off walk and just drafting another young cheap quarterback from McVeigh? That's full ish. I well. I I hear you rookie quarterback contracts with a bomb diggity, all boy. They're the best. The man eagles eagles and Rams are good evidence of that both back to back. Super Bowl attendees, only one to one doesn't matter who REGI quarterback contracts, a huge part of that lets you feel your Auster if they let golf walk the draft. Rookie. It'll be the ballsy move in the history of sports in the history of sports, and it would be the biggest nut drop from Sean McVay that you could ever imagine it will take exactly three games of that going badly in the beginning of the twenty twenty one season in their first year in LA for everyone. They would be at Kuda it the there's not enough ram fans to really turn on the team. But those who are fans will turn on your own. I mean, like, it's just the entire media all or nothing proposition. Let's find other ways to talk about goff's problems without suggesting that the ramp should move on from him objectively. It'd be very interesting to see I don't dispute that. It's not gonna happen. Let's talk about things that will know here's the thing too with golfing. I've been very critical of let's put it this way. He's a very young quarterback. He could very well figure these things out and work these things out, and it could lead to more success for him. Would he's clean throws a pretty deep ball like he can be very good quarterback at his ceiling. Any has for stretches of time. Just hasn't been a major portion of the second half of the season. The potential is therefore him he can improve. He is young. There is room for growth. So let's put that out there to this is not this. We're just talking about who Goff is right now. And I agree especially when you look at this draft class this quarterback draft class coming out, if you're going to say, let walk go get one of those guys have fun with Daniel Jones, and we'll see how that works out because that question like, okay. So so Gough we argue has the biggest dealt of all started quarterbacks between catch clean and under pressure drying. This this ambiguous a more fish within structure out structure. What does that kinda mean like, you know, like, you know, the red the the patriots one of the big things they did during this game which again Rama who called a great game was alluding to in the fourth quarter is the patriots called a pre snap defense and a post nap beheads end just ran to place to play right anew regularly. Saw there'd be motion and like nine patriots would start. Like giving audibles right? Yep. Because they had multiple defensive calls in on apply. Fifteen seconds set that communicator to Gough turns off they can switch the play from there. And now, you have totally different look. Now, you have to now now office thinking they were sound, right. And so now golf has lost McVeigh which again is a disadvantage for every quarterback. We're not just arguing that. Because McVeigh's the head coach. It's the only for Goffin. No other quarterback. I says it's not true. Right. But the the delta is big. And so, you know, we say Goff is better clean not under pressure. He's better with instruction. Pour out structure. It's very big delta. So the question is like, okay. Well, how how good is Gerry Goffin vacuum. Never going to be able to answer that. He's never gonna leave the Rams under this weird hypothetical where he leaves the Rams is Jared Goff still a starter in thirty one other offenses. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. And that's why you're not gonna move on from him. Because it's not like, you know, it's it's not like an option quarterback where he's only successful in your system, and he's not successful anywhere else. No. He would sell the starting. However quarterback in other positions in the league in other in other schemes under other coaches, absolutely. He's a very natural thrower with great mechanics who has tremendous arm talent throws beautiful balls with touch to the sideline us gorgeous to watch really well cast and well-coached for in the Rams offense. That's why they're good offense. There's nothing wrong with being helped by your head kosher by your scheme. But that's the goal. That's the point. That's what we wanna see. That's great. To make that a detraction from Jared Goff for all of his faults. In his words, is is bad analysis. And we're not just talking about like lady on Bill walks in James Connor comes in and can give you a lot of the same production. This is a totally different beast with quarterback. So we're definitely not going down that road Jerry Goff. That would be foolish in our opinions. But Ben anything else that you wanna touch on about this Super Bowl before we get out of here. Because there is an interesting tweet article, whatever you wanna call it from ESPN that I wanted to touch on before we go, and I wanted to get your opinion. Have you not seen this Benjes perked up? Okay. So ESPN has released their way too early. According to them power rankings for two thousand nineteen top ten can you guess who's not on it? I mean, I I will not count this. But I'll add to this with do you see the the twenty nineteen Super Bowl odds because this was the funniest thing. I saw yesterday on a day full of hilarity. Okay. So I'll go first the Philadelphia Eagles were not in the top ten power rank. Way too early for ESPN the under dog theme is back for the off season. Put it on the bulletin board. Lego isn't it the power rankings things? Okay. That annoys me the underdog thing, I get it or not the Vegas odds. The life thing I get it. Because his thing you keep the eagles low. Right. They have poor odds in my opinion entice the buyers, but fry, but what happens is you leave the odds there, you wait for the Carson Wentz news to be like, oh, he actually is healthy. And then you inflate the odds and people would jump on those because they'll think that they're getting good value, which there probably aren't bought regardless. This headline movement work you just want to try better. Yeah. Having said the odds, I have said I have already placed face will fit before that on little eagles because the odds value should simply good leading at six to one is Kansas City Chiefs MacKenzie chiefs alone, hashtag patriots are underdogs and eight to one New Orleans Los Angeles Rams in England Patriots fourteen to one Los Angeles. Chargers Chicago Bears and the first. Fixed-price my opinion the Pittsburgh Steelers at fourteen to one which Sears the playoffs this year and might lose Antonio Brown. Right. That's all that's four AFC teams in three NFC teams relatively ballots. Here are the sixteen off teams Minnesota green may Dallas. So, nope. No, Wendy to one. So we went from fourteen to sixteen to twenty two one. It's philadelphia. Baltimore Indianapolis, Cleveland and Houston. What? How can we look at that? And be like there's something weird here. Like, we have four teams who have not made significant noise of the flaps in the past two years. One of whom hasn't just started winning and Philadelphia the SuperBowl champion two years ago. Who returning their starting quarterback that when a playoff game this year without their starting? So that's again. So we have Minnesota who did not make the playoffs lost their offense coordinator will obviously Myers offense coordinator. Right. But have showed no evidence of being significantly improved team. Based off their twenty seventeen play. They went down of the goals. We have Green Bay did not make the playoffs this year new head coach unproven head coach first year head coach with Aaron Rodgers. Okay. And we have Dallas made the playoffs won a playoff game. Just like the used lost their head coach is quote unquote coaching for his job Jason Garrett their quarter their office coordinator has coached for three years and twenty eight. I can't I can't do what do people look at when they look at like how much coaching matters the roster construction. How GM's are able to navigate things like how it rosement Doug Peterson? Carson wentz. Give me that trio over all over a lot of these dudes. I don't know what is attractive one possession game had a drop turned into a turnover and could have taken the lead over the saints. Which coulda shoulda what they could have been like a championship game team at this point. Right. So we see and they had two injury riddled Super Bowl run. And they increase their injuries by fifty percent. And we're one drive away from going to the NFC championship game. And would have played a team they beat in the regular season, very recently. So odd to me, Ben. So I don't get upset about like major media takes all that stuff is just it's fascinating to me that people sleep on them that much you can do vended which is put twenty dollars down on the Philadelphia Eagles winning the two thousand twenty SuperBowl. And you'll make four hundred dollars so twenty dollars as four four hundred. Hundred dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which I can make sense to me like if you had the eagles at fourteen to one and you wanted to drop them to like sixteen to one eight one because the Carson Wentz injury short. But twenty two one on par with Cleveland and Baltimore in Houston. And Indianapolis is just offensive to me. I'm sorry. I think Indianapolis too low to that's yeah. That's that's a whole nother story that I know is even crazier. Thirty two one Seattle Seattle over like Green Bay is to douse probably boil boys going to be a fun off season. Obviously these seems to have some roster construction to do in that's gonna come via free agency via the draft via the resigning period. We're gonna be covering all that here bleeding green nation. Ben the that covers it for today. Would you say goodbye to the gentle, gentle listeners hang on? Let me finish. My piece of pizza after swell. Ben always eat stirring, the podcast. I love to throw to him in moments in which he's eating to see how recovers here's the thing. I literally woke up like an. Hour ago. So having brand. I guess I slept on my ram because the game. Thanks, always for listening to kiss him. Be Jan radio. I if offseason podcast welcome to draft season, Mike, right? If you if you couldn't tell by the opening conversation, we have a lot we would like to go over lots of discuss. So make sure subscribe to feed on whatever app. You listen to your podcasts. 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Hour 1: Joe Judge trying to be New York Tough

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

39:10 min | 3 months ago

Hour 1: Joe Judge trying to be New York Tough

"John jay williams podcast. I mean we got three playoff games on saturday. Three playoff games on sunday and everybody is still talking about a couple of teams. That have no shot at the playoffs. Here we go. Call a judge jury and executed because joseph out to get killed by the guy sitting to my right k. L. t. busted that out this morning before even kiko keyshawn jay bilas zubin presented by progressive insurance. All of our guests proudly joined on the goodyear hotline j will is here key is here and we are here at the biggest story fellas in the nfl simply put. It's time for straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Y'all know the deal. The situation with doug peterson sunday. Saying he was playing to win with the optics showing. Perhaps the exact opposite the beneficiary was the washington football team. The team on the other end of it. That really got screwed. Let's be honest. Is the new york giants. you believe. that's the case in joe judge and his season ending press conference yesterday certainly is in that camp. There's a number of sacrifices made by all the players and coaches in this league. There's number of sacrifices to come along as well with the family members of the people connected to them to disrespect the effort that everyone put forward to make this season success the national football league to disrespect the game by going. They're not competing for sixty minutes. And doing everything you can help those players win. We will never do that as long as the head coach in new york. Giants well. Let's start off by saying morning zubin. Good morning morning. They will go ahead a great evening now onto juicy still for it first of all. I understand the tough tone and a tough talk. You're in new york. You want to appeal to the fan base. You wanna be that guy. I get it one hundred percent but to say that you would never disrespect again by deciding to not compete at one hundred percent full speed all the time all the rhetoric i. I'm going to say it this way in in our hope you follow me alone very well. J. in zubin in the audience. That's listening and watching. There are a number of teams every single year in the national football league at the end of the season that have nothing to play for whatsoever zero. Either they're completely out of the playoff picture or they've clinched to end. They can't change their seeding or whatever the case may be so with that being said does that mean that the pittsburgh steelers in head coach two time super bowl appearing winning head coach. Mike tomlin who's never ever had a subpar five hundred season as a head coach. Does that mean that. He's not competing and he's not giving it one hundred percent in the integrity of the game. Go to another example. Does that mean j. In zuber net hall of fame head coach in tony dungy super bowl winning head coach in tony dungy who turned around tampa bay buccaneers and turned into legit contenders year in year. Out by the way has set many players over time whether it was indie chance to go sixteen in decided not to or whether it was in tampa bay when he decided we can't change our seeding so therefore number of our star players are going to sit on the sidelines and relax and if we win we win. If we don't we don't it we're not we're good are many other head coaches around the league that have been successful. Does that mean that they disrespect the nfl integrity gang. Hell no so. Why are you trying to set this narrative that that is what it is. Joe jets because it's not it. Why win philadelphia makes a decision. I understand you want to do back door into the playoffs. How about winning more football games. How about doing that to start. Then you could go on and say things that make sense. because clearly everybody's not aligned around the national football league with his thinking. Because the kansas city chiefs this year allowed to san diego or the charges to get a victory because they decided we're we're we're good see in before i allow you to go jay. I'm going to say this. When joe judge is sitting at fourteen into with the number one seed in nothing to play for and he's facing a team that is now i don't know they get fourteen to say thirteen before the season is thirteen and one and they're playing a team that's won thirteen and they clinched nothing to play for and then he decides to sit soup players on the team. Is he losing the integrity of the. Nfl game. that's all i'm asking zoom indicators. Say before he allows me to go. He's just say because i didn't want i didn't want you to interrupt me like many times but i haven't. I haven't interrupted listening. Talk for five and a half minute segment. Gee i'm just saying listen to me here on this one. Would i have sat on my moral high horse yesterday. If i were joe judge. No what i've taken a shot and opponent. No was he wrong. Yes do i love it. Yes i love this as a giants fan. You know why key because when's the last time the giants won the division. Two thousand and eleven wins the last time. We actually won a playoff game. Two thousand eleven. We've been to the playoffs once since in. The eagles have been to the playoffs every year since two thousand seventeen since they won the super bowl so you know what it is right now. This is the rivalry. And when i see my players dangerously in and company out there tweeting about what happened when i watched what happened and i understand the business and economics of the industry. I understand that. They moved up three draft spots and they went from nine to six by taking this game. But then when i see doug peterson's comments and the way he communicates those comments to the media and i know it feels like they're taking a shot at me when i understand this robbery. I'm okay with it. I'm okay with joe. Judge coming out and saying this you know why. Because he's endearing himself to new york a guy who's blue-collar wants to work hard and he doesn't like the so. I hear what you're saying about all these other coaches and sitting it. But that's i don't need to hear that as a giants fan. I wanna hear my coat. Stand up for what. His players saying he might get towards nationally. I just heard you towards him. And that's fine. But i don't really care how joe joe appears nationally. Only care how appeals to the players in that locker room and he's on the same line behind the sand with them. He wants to fight with them. That's all i care about. J. j. he would have said that we good. But that's what he said. He questioned people's motives integrity in competitiveness. In terms of getting out there. I set out gains before. When we've clint spot so you tell me in my. I played in the nfl so in my eleven years in the nfl in get knocked across the middle and catch it. Are you telling me. Are you saying to me that. I cheated the game because i didn't go one hundred miles an hour. Sixty minutes every single game. When my coaches said we've already clinched. You're sitting on the sideline gonna play. You is that what you telling me because that's what it sounds like to me. I just said that. I wouldn't have said no. Not you up talking about joe. Judge joe judge but like i said if new york giants player i don't care how josiah's appears nationally. I don't really care that he wants to fight with me on my team. And there's a giants fan but does not fighting just talking. Nonsense his rhetoric. That's all it is key says because said nothing about. He said nothing about the playoffs. He said nothing about. This is about the giants and eagles in the playoffs. He's talking about the integrity of the damn gain. Joseph keyshawn johnson. We we just talked about. Doug peterson the other day. And your biggest. Doug peterson apologised series. Five look into that. All i'm saying is you're up there and says coaches live. That's what they do. It's rhetoric all the time. So why the you now it. It bothers me because he's questioning wants. Integrity of the gain is saying that a man integrity in competing which is ridiculous when we all know across the board that they had nothing to play for in. There's no need of helping the new york giants when i can move from nine to six. I'm not once again. I don't want to agree with what joe said. I get it as a giants fan. I want to hear that. I'm okay with that. I would love to bring jalen hurts on the show and asked his opinion about respecting the game. How he felt about being for boy you in the nba nba every day. One of the most of frauds is sitting dudes come home s. dot attack. Thank you gotta you gotta break. We gotta break you all right. I thought i was going to load manage here. And you guys are gonna take the rest of the block but to the jump in here since we got some nba. I want to quickly mention three teams. That had been under five hundred to make the playoffs. The first to have one playoff games. The last two the two thousand twenty washington football team and the carolina panthers back in two thousand fourteen both coached by ron rivera. Everybody talks about the seahawks in the beast. Quake in that game against new orleans but seven eight and one carolina in two thousand fourteen and this washington. Football team both coached. That's ri- revere that's rows recipe. I don't know if you wanna brag about that. We made the playoffs with this record. But there's the deal right. Straight talk wireless no contract compromise on the way. Does this sound like a recipe for success a rookie. Straight calling out the goat. 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That's geiko dot com keyshawn djabel zubin presented by progressive insurance all of our guests on the goodyear hotline including nfl. Insider dan graziano. You think we got a couple of questions for him. He's coming up at six. Forty am eastern. He's rocket out this morning. saturday night. Football normally means college football. But in this case key saturday night. Football means bucks washington football team. Tom brady first playoff foray in tampa under the lights. Saturday night and chase young. Who certainly is a strong case to be the defensive rookie of the year calling out. Tom brady quote tom brady. I'm coming. I want tom. How about that. And then you just may have heard a second ago. Bruce arians saying look. He's a great kid. His old college teammate. Terry mclaren great kid great players but the gene goat stands for greatest. Be careful kid. He's a hell of a player. Obviously make him a captain as a rookie. Ass- speaks volumes. And both those kids from house. Eight him cleaner are great kids. And but he's he's a he's a handful but so is sweat paying the rest of those guys ryan kerrigan. I've had a ton of respect for for a long time so Yeah we'll have our hands full but You know it's one of those games where you better watch what you wish for. So that's the deal. Bruce arians weighing in after chase young threw it down just a reminder. Bruce arians is gonna join greenie this morning. Greenie is joining us Right after we're done ten. Am eastern beginning today. Mike greenberg begins his new show. Right after we're done greenie taking you inside the stories of the day. As only he can the newsmakers. You'd expect the a. Listers interacting with you every single weekday from keyshawn. Jalen zubin read into greenie weekday mornings on. Espn radio and right out of the shoot. He's going to have bruce arians. Join him at ten thirty a m eastern on day. One for his reaction to what essentially. It's been a little bit of a little ted. ted also. Pat mcafee will join this morning at ten fifteen. Am so right out of the gate. All right what do you think. I mean look man. I don't think that chase young's words will bother or ignore or anything like that. Tom brady brady's not do fifty years. Old man is heard everything going for people right. Think about it. Many years that he's played the new england all the chatter about where there was spy gay. There you did this or deflated balls are you. He's heard it all that bounces off a wall and goes nowhere. I mean it's just again. Hit chase young young. He's fired up. You say some stuff. In a locker room somebody picks it up is juicy now. Bruce arians is right though. You could get torched it if you get torched. I'm going to use that against you now. If we come we come in in washington we hang city which is a fifty pack on you. Then i'll go. I'm going to let you know and if we lose then you've got the right to say whatever you want to say. But if i get you and i'm not gonna let you know. I'm not going to clap back. I'm just going to do my job but as that clock starts to tick away of could it certainly go like this point to it and let you know next time you need to keep your damn mouth closed and that's it who does it want to crack the goat like who doesn't want to beat tom. Brady up. Tom brady key said he's fifty years old. He can barely move into pocket. Okay i mean he's you know he's really good. No i'm not saying that. He's not really good he's incredibly well. He's impaired accredited really good of a player. But he's only been sacked twenty two times right. They allow twenty two axes force fourth lease in the nfl. So but this is not basketball. This is not a mano a mano type of race here. He chase young has actually get through that line. He has get through that line. So my thing is a guy who is going to be defensive. Rookie of the year. Who leads all rookies and sacks seven point five sacks per game. I want to hear him talk this way. This is his shot to crack the goat. Now whether he actually gets to do that or not. That'd be up to the game. But i love the mentality that he has. We have jason right on our show multiple times. Who is the president for washington. Football taming always talks about the culture culture of the franchise. He is a captain. You want your captain to be hungry. You want him to have that. Drive that grit now. I don't expect to washington football team to win this game. I expect the bucks to win this game. If so i almost feel like is playing with house money. If chase young gets a crack at tom brady and every chance to win the game great. Incredible if they lose. Nobody's going to say whoa. We really expected to washington football team to win this game. So i think it's a whimper chase young i like this leadership style and i like that hunger. He brings it of leadership. One things at. Tom brady struggled with throughout his career. Pasha something that. They certainly have in washington. Jack del rio leading the charge as defensive coordinator enroll rivera defensive minded head coach You know on staff so when you start to think about the recipe for tom brady. Yes chase you coming. Been in the edge going and tom brady sack. Fumbles all those sorts of things. The only thing with this. Is you now. Put a lot of pressure on your teammates. Now just you but also your teammates to deliver. How well because because one jay is when you start talking they now have to back you up. That's just how it is in the nfl. Once one person says something the other ten on that defense. They've got a now back it up because if they don't do job with chase young the corner and he doesn't get the tom brady in the back into the hold up and then all of a sudden you got guy when running down the middle of the field you in trouble that e so you gotta think duties things. It's not just as simple as fun talking noise. It's also in the back of certain people's minds when they get a hold of you get a hold of you and that's when you get into trouble that's all i'm saying in the end that scoreboard could be different. That's all i'm saying. I'm saying that the bucks are eight and a half favored in this ball. Game a touchdown plus so like. I'm saying the washington football team is playing with house money. I don't keep we're not going into this game. Do you expect the washington football team to win this game. I do missiles happen. Even better even better key. That's the beauty of the playoffs that that washington football team defense is certainly pretty style. But tom brady. And the offense have been just as stout on the other side of the last few weeks for sure on the way all the reporting says it's a fractured beyond repair relationship. Between doug peterson carson wentz. He's not so sure she saw. And say will and sylvan. The podcast and that's where we will begin. You know the situation. What should the eagles do with carson. Wentz we'll talk about that and plenty of other things including another team in the nfc east in about ten minutes with insider. Dan graziano so key. All the reporting seems to be that the relationship is beyond repair between carson wentz and the former eagles quarterback now head coach doug peterson he signed a one hundred. Twenty eight million dollar deal by the way just in june of twenty nine thousand nine. This wasn't like one of those decisions they made so long ago and now it's coming to roost. June of twenty nineteen. They laid one twenty eight in front of them and now obviously things have gone. Kaput sure we're ready to partways just yet. Well you got to look at it. A lot of different ways man they. The season just ended the other day so now they've got to assess everything and they also got a look at their cap hit in where the cap is going to be the cavs going to drop from where it is now. You don't want to have your team explo- from a salary cap standpoint because there's an emotional decision needs to be made now maybe carson is in a situation where from a mental standpoint. It doesn't matter for him to take less money to work with the cap with the next t may be able to do that. He may be able to go back and restructure with philadelphia to get out of there and say you know what man is is worth it to me. My sanity is worth it to give you some of this money back so i can part in go on that. It may be worth guys. Get to that point. I was at that point in my own career. When i play for jon gruden at tampa bay buccaneers and let him know at the beginning of the season. No matter what you do. I don't want an extension. I don't want anything. I just want to get the hell away from you period. You can have it all. I just wanna go in so when you get to a certain point. Some things are not repairable. And if that's where. He's at. Because quarterbacks and i've said this jason in you and other guys in my entire career quarterbacks or sensitive they are just sensitive man. They're very fragile delicate. That's why when people push them up at the top and they don't stay at the top they crumble. As soon as something happens they fall apart in. that's what you're seeing potentially a carson wentz key. Let me tell you what howie roseman said the other day. I know carson's disappointed. My job is to get it right. My job is to fix it. That's not how he rose miss job. That's carson wentz his job to fix it. You talk about quarterbacks being sensitive so let's go back to before. The season started because he was an opportunity for a quarterback to be sensitive. And i want to show you the way. He responded granted. He may be one of the best quarterbacks who ever seen a do it jordan. Love gives drafted. There's a whole lot of swirl about what's going to happen here in green bay and what's going to happen with this youngster that's gonna come in you know. Aaron rodgers responded to it a thirteen three record in mvp season. He goes out and he takes it so now. I'm sitting here watching the way. Doug peterson is handle. Postgame processors which has been embarrassing in my opinion. Even though you disagree key it's been embarrassing in my opinion to now seeing a quarterback who looks mentally fractured. And now i see how he roseman. Doug peterson talked about how i salvage this relationship. How do i save that. My question is why. Are you trying to save a relationship when you have to have somebody who wants to fight for the relationship if i if i want a relationship and you don't wanna fight to stay in a relationship with me. Why am i trying to crawl towards you to help you fight for relationship. You have to want to take it. You wanna be in here with me. And i don't know if carson wentz has the mental fortitude and i'm saying reports that i hear from all these great reporters that we have espn now wondering about whether carson wentz whether it's negotiation talk with agents know china hanging out there to create you know a little bit more traction carson wentz but i don't wanna see how he roseman doug peterson say. How do we fix this. I hear carson wentz say. I'm going to go out and take it although it's gonna be mine we'll look jay as of right now. He's holly rozema said that as of now they're not trading him as of today. Remember what i said when we first started to segment the season just ended the other day. They got a long ways to go before they get to making a decision on what they wanna do. With carson winter quarterbacks there's a lot of conversations that have to take place now when you say that he has to want to be in it in. Doug peterson handling press conferences and doing things a certain way carson wentz new jalen hurts was drafted to play eventually. At some point. Time was gonna play whether it was this year next year the year after. Not if he's able to hold him off not exactly but he joined jordan. Love was drafted air. Aaron rodgers crumble. But but everybody is different koce. Everybody mental fortitude is different. Some people can handle certain situations when you draft a guy behind him. Nato guy you know guys get drafted every single year in you. Think that players in his league. That guys like aaron rodgers is gonna worry about. That knows won't go out there and take care of business but when you carson wentz maybe you or not ask strong from a mental standpoint to be able to handle all the chatter. What goes on sportscenter. What goes on in the newspapers. What people are saying on sports. Talk radio you. He may not be able to handle that. And that's okay. That's okay. It's up to doug and how to understand what they have at the quarterback spot now and they see it now they understand it they now could approach it in handle in a certain way rather than do it emotionally because carson wants to do it or his representatives wanna say he wants to be traded doesn't mean anything people tail front office people all the time every single day jay and every sport my guys not happy he wants to be traded. He needs a new contract. Is how you handle it in the front office. No question couple. Things will quickly mention before we get to the nfl insider. Dan grab deanna. Who's got some stuff after joe judge's comments with the giants and that would be the simple manifestation of it right now carson wentz looks at jalen hurts and says this kid's a baller. This kid can play. All the reports are saying that. Well i think people look at him and say this guy's pretty good. This guy has something whereas a lot of people according to the reports in green bay it's been very limited sample size. That point jordan. Love needs a telescope to see aaron rodgers. I mean the difference between hurts and wins obviously a little bit more narrow. The last number i wanted to bring up to you. Is the dead cap number. The largest dead cap number in the history of the nfl. Ever guess take a guess trivia time twenty eight million good close robert woods twenty one point. Eight million dollars wins his cabinet. The only reason. I bring this up to put it in context. When's his cap. It would be about thirty five million dollars a thirty five million dollar dead cap. Hit thirteen million dollars. More than the largest one we've ever seen in the history of the nfl year where the salary cap is going to take a dip. When traditionally rises and so two keys point there's going to be a larger percentage who is going to hurt even more j. I just want to go back to your first point when you said about the. The gap is a little bit narrower between carson wentz and jalen hurts as opposed to jordan love and aaron rodgers. Yeah but the gap is also massive. When you talk about what got paid right one hundred and twenty eight million dollars. They paid the wrong guy. They laid the wrong guy. There you go. And it came in june of twenty nine thousand nine hundred. We'll see what happens. Obviously executive vice president howie roseman. Can't say he wants to trade carson wentz. That would devalue anything they could get four and plenty of chatter about one. Nfc team that didn't make the playoffs in the eagles. How about some chatter on another one. That just missed out on. The postseason key is beside himself. We've just played the audio of joe judge again talking about how upset he is the integrity of the game. It's been the biggest nfl talker. We got six games. We've got super wildcard weekend on saturday and this story about a couple of teams that aren't going to the play. Offs is dominating everything. Let's talk about it with the espn nfl. Insider dan grazziano who joins us this morning. On the goodyear hotline been aligned with the giants for a long time. You know the organization takes us inside. What's the juicy scoop you can give us. I mean look they were. They went into the game. Sunday night hopeful that the would win and they'd get to be division champions with a six and ten record so obviously they were disappointed and they felt like the eagles didn't do everything they could to win. And i think you heard that coming out with joe judge in the news conference yesterday but a couple of things to remember one. Joe judge comes from new england right where they always play their guys. You never saw bill belichick. Tom brady off the field and a week. Seventeen even with one seed locked up. So he's they walk the walk there and i think joe judge has the background to say yes. This is something that we wouldn't do. We'll see i mean if you ever get the chance to do it. Will he will back up that that talk or not. But there's his history and where he comes from indicates that at least he's been schooled by someone who Who who doesn't so. The other thing is i think giants players were on social media sunday night and they were saying you know they were upset or they were kidding around upset. Some combination of the two. They realized that they went six. And ten and then no one's going to hand them a division title and if they really wanted one. They should've worn at least seven. Maybe even eight games. But joe judge's always coaching and i think to send that message publicly and have his players hear it in. That forum is an effective coaching technique. And it delivers the right message to the people for joe who are most important to hear it which is his players in that is true is players the organization a fan base. He could appeal to that. But when you are questioning the integrity of coaches and organizations as you look at the kansas city chiefs pittsburgh steelers even teams like the indianapolis colts and jeff saturday and peyton manning when they decided to sit tight just you know as a former player have done this before dan. It's like come on man seriously. Like what are you talking about. You just talking. No so that's kind of where i was at on it. Yeah let me ask you what. They're not going to go ahead. They're not going to shut down the playoffs because doug peterson assaulted the integrity of the nfl. Like this happens man. I mean like like the new york giants three years ago sat. Eli manning down and put gino smith in a game in early december because they wanted to and eli manning's consecutive game streak so easier to move on from him teams make decisions all the time that resulted in their best possible team. Not being on the field in games that might count for other ver- other teams if the steelers had played all their guys on sunday and the browns lost. The dolphins might be in the playoffs. So why aren't the dolphins upset. Mike tomlin so yeah look at. There's a lot going on here. But i think joe judge's talking specifically to his situation and using it as an opportunity to say here's what we're going to be about going forward and making sure his team knows that to let's stay in philadelphia. Dan carson wentz doesn't seem very happy. Reports are out there that he probably wants to know traded at some point during the off season. How do you see this thing unfolding as we get to the offseason but you guys were just talking about in the previous segment. It's tough for the eagles to trade carson. Wentz right now and get anything in return. The acquiring team would be taking on a heavy salary for a player that just had a very bad year and giving. What are you going to give a team in order to take that on. So it's in the eagles best interest to make sure everybody thinks that they don't have to or don't want to trade carson wentz that's just negotiating one one. My understanding is the eagles preference would be to bring him back and see if they can get it fixed because they is a player they think very highly of they have a lot invested in them remember. They traded up twice in the draft to get him and then couple of years later they give him the monster contract so they literally have a lot of resources invested in this player and he's a flop that's damaging to them as an organization so they would prefer to bring them back. The question is can they sell him on that we see chris mortensen reporting on this about carson wentz once out. The relationship is fractured. That's where the issue right now. The eagles could want carson back carson. Wentz back all they want. But if he doesn't want to be there it's going to be a tricky situation for them to navigate this off season big off season story obviously in philadelphia. Just getting started dan. You covered the ravens this past weekend when rest over four yards versus the bengals. How scary does this offense actually. Look right now. Four hundred four hundred like they dobbins goes for that seventy two yard touchdown run and you look at your stats sheet. And it says three fifty and it's the third quarter i. I'm not sure i ever saw that. Before and true enough. They were one of seventeen i think. Nfl history to get to four hundred. Look they're not playing the bengals this week. No offense to the bengals. But but but i mean you know the the playoff competition is going to be tough for them. What the ravens face on sunday. There's no question about that but you talk about. I mean you guys you guys who have been high level professional athletes. I mean you know. I'm sure you can tell me what it means to go into the playoffs. Feeling confident feeling good feeling strong. Hey this is the way it's supposed to look and that's where the ravens are right. Now they feel like their offense is clicking at a high level that their quarterback is playing like the mvp that he was last year that they're they're doing what they wanna do in terms of their offense by ten identity and that can carry a team. I think for a little bit and tennessee's obviously tough opponent the team that knocked them out last year but tennessee is not playing good defense and i think the baltimore ravens are feeling like they can run the ball at will which is how they feel right. Now and lamar. Jackson can extend plays and find guys downfield the way he did last year in key spots that they can be a dangerous team in the playoffs. And right now yeah. They've survived. They're losing streak. They've survived their covert outbreak. They've survived a bunch of injuries and they're going into the playoffs feeling like they're as strong as they have been all year so That mentality combined with the level of talent they have on that offense and if the defense is getting healthy on the back end very interesting team in terms of potentially making some noise in january. It'll be fascinating to see what happens again. Three game saturday three sunday but the all of the attention seems to be revolving around a couple of teams. That were only hoping to make the postseason. Is dan said if you wanna make it. Don't hope don't pray go in more football games. Dan thanks very much. Just a reminder beginning today mike greenberg begins his show greenie immediately. Following sean j will zubin on. Espn radio greenie will take you inside. The stories of the day is only. He can have the newsmakers you'd expect and interact with you every single day from keyshawn. J. will zubin reading to greenie weekday mornings on. Espn radio this morning. Pat mcafee will join him. i presume. That's his i guess to ten fifteen. Am eastern. and then. Bruce arians to talk about. Tom brady year one altogether in tampa looking ahead to their playoff game. Saturday night. that'll be pat. Mcafee and bruce arians in the first half hour of greenie this morning right after we're done on espn radio. Let's go for mehta's e with an eye in the middle. I for indie the. Ncaa tournament is going to be held entirely in the state of indiana in around the indianapolis metro area. This had been suspected for a long time but it becomes public so here we go all sixty eight teams all sixty seven games though play at the colts stadium. Lucas oil stadium. The pacers home bankers life fieldhouse hinkle. Fieldhouse the home of butler and assembly hall. The home of i you j. will this. Ncaa tournament bubble work. I hope so. Considering last year didn't work. But i look. I think this concept would be incredible in post covid era because you can make cities actually bid for all. These teams actually come to their cities and actually so way to share the revenue with the players. If you're bringing that amount of revenue to a city the one concern. I have is when you bring this amount of teams at a city. Like we saw issues happened with inside the nba bubble. We're talking about grown men. You're also talking about young adults. Eighteen nineteen twenty year old young adults in the city being in hotels for a month. I think it's going to be very challenging. But i hope it can work because i want to see march madness desperately this year indeed grade point by you could be harbinger of things to come. This is experimental. They're talking about it as a one off. But who knows if it works. It could be great. The ncaa's headquartered in indianapolis can monitor the situation boots on the ground. The d two and d three tournaments also in the state of indiana so a huge amount of infrastructure in place one state is going to dominate march madness. Alright the texans did anything but dominate this year a disastrous season and their two best players. Not afraid to sound off you may have heard. Jj watches laying into some of his teammates or not giving effort about a week ago. To shawn watson says they need a complete culture reboot and reset just need a whole culture shift. We just need new energy. We just need discipline need structure We need a leader so we can follow that leader as as players. And that's what we need and we just have the love of just just game of football because that's what we do but love for people and the people in this organization and we all got to be on the same page. It's too many different mine. too many different ideas and too many people thinking that have this power and is not like that you know we need someone that stance on and this is who we follow and this is the way it go say yesterday after the game and we do it this way to win key this is like the football equivalent of a cry for help with the first fifteen seconds of what he said. That was pretty cathartic. Well he knows i mean. Obviously he's been their entire career. And it all started with bill. O'brien and everybody. That's there is under bill. O'brien everybody thinks and acts and feels like bill. O'brien and romeo cornell did his best coming off the sidelines and becoming the head coach and trying to put on the cap to change a little bit of the culture. But everything's already embedded right. It's already there so you've got to do a complete scrubbing clean of the entire organization. That's why guys like louis riddick in the great ozzie. Newsome those type of names that understand that you have to have a coach shift in change could be great fit in houston texans. It kills me to hear. The shawn watson talked outweigh the shawn. Watson is one of the most special quarterbacks we have in this league got chance to do a boardroom segment with him last year right before he got his big deal and all he cares about is winning at a high level. That's all he cares about kiam to begin to talk about how you had high expectations for this team. The everything that happened with bill. O'brien you just hope that. For the shawn watson sake that they can salvage that relationship and that starts the pieces that you put around them so he can start competing at the highest level possible which is championship caliber. Level for deshaun watson. that's it is championship caliber level. Or he's gonna find somebody else that can help them get there. We just heard him talk for thirty nine seconds. 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Philadelphia has agree agreed to trade carson wentz to the indianapolis colts in exchange for the two thousand twenty one third round pick and a conditional twenty twenty two second round pick. That could turn into a first round. Pick league sources tell at mort report and me anyway. Let me just say this. The fact that they got a second round pick at any point and could turn into a first round pick. And i'm not sure how that could turn into a first round pick. Someone will explain it to me. But the fact that they got a second round pick at all a third round pick. This year is amazing to me for carson wentz and i know the cap is supposed to go up. And all that and the his his his per annum hit doesn't look so bad under those circumstances doesn't look so bad for a franchise quarterback. He's not a franchise quarterback right now. He's not a starting quarterback right now. I understood the two teams that were interested in carson wentz. It's no coincidence. Where the bears and the colts. Why because def- lippo the passing game coordinator was the quarterbacks coach for carson wentz in philly when he was really good because carson wentz not that long ago really really good and of course frank reich was was was a coach on that same staff with carson wentz in philadelphia. Who's now the head coach of the indianapolis colts. Those are the two who thought. Hey i can get in there and fix this guy from the ground up or from the head down because that's what it's gonna take for carson wentz. This is a four on reclamation project wince. One one time in two thousand seventeen is the best. Third down quarterback in the league had a great arm really tough excellent leader the whole thing. It fell apart piece by piece after that. Maybe it started with. Nick foles winning the super bowl and he felt a certain kind of way about that but even the next season he couldn't lead the eagles to anything they were dead in the water falls took over. They caught fire made the playoffs and a playoff game on the road. Almost one another playoff game on the road that wasn't with wentz that was with foale's and progressively. He's gotten worse since then two years ago. Second half of the season. I pointed out to everyone game over game over game wait. He's not he's not everyone's saying he's good what he's playing the nfc east and that was full of backup. Quarterbacks rookies that year and they all did better against same nfc east opponents around the same time that carson wentz ben carson winston he was terrible got worse worse and worse. everyone was saying. No no. you're great you're great. you're great. He was believing it should listen to me back. Then he would have fixed himself worked on himself and it got worse and worse this year until everyone acknowledged. He's the worst quarterback in football. Who starts these. He wasn't a starter anymore and then even then did he take it like a man that he take it like a leader no he started pouting and whining and leaking to the press. Course if he has no interest in being a backup if he can't start he wants a trade really sherlock who has interest in being a backup. Who's a starter already. No one's interested anything. Trubisky was interested in being a backup when interested in it but he took it and he learned from it and he came back better as a result and he supported his teammate. undermine the team didn't leak to the press us wining. The david is backup. Jalen hurts in this case for wentz was starting for making his first pro start. No wentz became locker room problem and dad for chemistry. I mean listen. Let me give him his credit. He's tough as nails carson. Wentz a tough guy. He's got talent but he is all messed up everything from his mechanics to his decision making to his internal clock to his awareness. Everything's all messed up the full on reclamation project. Now where should he go. he's gone to the best place. Carson wentz has gone to the best beliefs place form in indianapolis. Well what receivers like the. They're okay but they are not elite. The main thing is this chicago has no offense of line. You know why they have no running game. The kept locked for the run. You know why they need trubisky. They can't have. Nick foles stand in the pocket. There's no time to stand the pocket. The lines collapsing constantly. They can't block for the past can protect for the passer protect. The passer is english. My first language it is. But sometimes i wonder anyway. The point. is this no offensive line for a injury. Prone quarterback had a catastrophic injury and carson wentz is not good. And that's the bears. That's not the colts colt sir to win day just need a franchise quarterback carson wentz. Ain't andrew luck great teammate. And leader talented in a winner. He peyton manning. one of the most precisions perc- what britain surgical precision. one of. Those precise surgeons something one of those descriptions who ever lived. Carve your right up. Great decision maker. He ain't those things you know what he does have an indianapolis though. Does he have an offensive line. Quinton nelson was. He taking sixth in that draft couple of years ago so great draft pick. I mean everyone knew he was going to be good. But my god quinton nelson is. I have to say fan a couple of other guys if someone said who's the greatest interior offensive linemen you've ever seen and by that i don't mean center. They have other responsibilities but the greatest offensive linemen regards. That i've ever seen quinton nelson is top of mind. He is a force field around him on the field and he really anchors that offensive line which is very good. So you have the coach. Who can maybe rebuild you. You have the offensive line. You're very well-balanced team wednesday's in the perfect situation. He is in the perfect situation. Why did they give up a second and third form a second conditional i. Why would you give that up. Think of it needs to be perfect for wentz instill. You don't know if it's going to be any good. He hasn't moved around the same since the injury. By the way tough guys i said but his movement the looks more labored to me and by the way he went from the best quarterback in league third down in two thousand seventeen. He was the worst quarterback in the league on third down the money down. He was the worst so he wasn't clutch. He wasn't smart. He didn't make good decisions. He wasn't a good leader etc etc etc. But they got a hole in my opinion. I don't want to hear all they didn't get necessarily a first round. Pick the fact that you get anywhere near first round. Pick for this guy's a coup. It sounds like i'm against carson. I didn't start out that way. I just really don't like the way. I mean i did i thought he was regressing regressing regressing. But i really don't like the way he behaved on the way out of philly. You don't throw you don't undermine your team especially when your backup is making his pro debut. What jalen hurts every dude anyone anyway. He's traded to indianapolis carson wentz and the the look. They didn't get even a second round pick this year. You know now. I told you why they overpaid the colts on the other. Hand those who are thinking that he's going to get getting a multiple firsts. They did not get even a second round. Pick this season. They have a third rounder forum this year and next year they have a conditional second rounder. Which could turn into a i. Somehow i know you say abracadabra or something. I don't know if i were indianapolis. Were either colts. And i gotta take that cap hit two. I know the eagles have to cap. Hit a tough in. Culture are now beginning to take him. If i were either colts. I think i would need in order to take on the project and contract i need a fourth round. Pick to take him if the eagles like we'll give you carson wentz. What are you going to give us. I would say give me a fourth rounder and take wins and see if i could fix them because there is a lot of fixing to do and we're going to get into whole carson wentz saga behind the scenes with joe santillo. Quevedo the man who really broke this story in philadelphia. Originally you use a very interesting story the way all that went down. Eighty eight say. Espn eight eight eight. Seven two nine three seven seven six. Here's adam schefter breaking down the train. We'll talk to joe. Colts and the eagles were in discussions for the last three weeks. I think really. From the day after jared goff got traded from los angeles to detroit matthew stafford went from detroit los angeles the talks heated up at that moment and really have been going on for nineteen straight days and they are at the brink of the deal the whole time but it was only until today that the eagles finally signed off on the agreement that will send a third round pick this year to philadelphia and a conditional second round pick next year that could become a first round pick in return to the eagles from the colts. Each side gets what it wants right. Carson wentz wanted out of philadelphia did not want to be back there. The colts wanted carson wentz. Who work with right hand coach. Who was his former offensive coordinator in philadelphia. Frank right is a carson wentz believer. I understand why the eagles like the shows you how delusional the eagles have been about once giving them all the power in the organization when he didn't deserve it enabling him and actually really having a hand in his demise in his regression and in fact. It's just like a kid man. You enable the kid you think you're giving them what they want. But in fact. You're undermining them. You're undermining their ability to develop at your hindering them. So i get it the staffer tricks. Wow stafford's team friendly deal which had something to do with it and goff's not so team friendly deal in order exchange those two quarterbacks you got two firsts takes to i t to turn goff into stafford we're gonna get something for once with the that's why the eagles took so long to bench him. They're delusional about him. When says not stafford. Joe santa luqueno feature writer for philly voice and president of the boxers. Writers association of america joins. Me on the goodyear hotline. Joe you're the guy who originally broke the story that all is not so well in philadelphia with carson wentz first of all welcome to the show. Joe what happened when you broke that story. Thank you max Well all hell broke loose People in the city Both media and fans were not willing to accept it did not want to accept it and A lot of things happened I think it's the work i was always getting. Death threats in my home got allies. So I knew i knew. I had something very strong on my side. And that was the truth And i can reveal this now nationally. And i get real real deal this now you You knew you knew the trip. Because i play a lot of some of the tapes to you when this i was was was coming up. People are wondering. How did i like when when i said things are. Something's wrong in philly. It's not just like joe. Called me and i was carson wentz's greatest no. It's not so great. I was noticing a regression saying so publicly. Joe noticed this and when we were talking he gave me some. He showed me some stuff. That maybe realize what i was seeing on. Tv when i watched carson wentz play wasn't based on nothing. Good tell them what. Show me joe well. Basically he was He wasn't what he was an and twenty seventeen people were expecting him to come back and bounce back to be some summits of himself. The numbers were there. I believe is number is actually very good during the twenty eighteen season but the eagles were faltering as a team. They weren't Winning but what was also happening with the little things that were taking place a lot of other things that had cleaned up just moved him onto the ball is on level had changed unadjusted subtly that confidence that that definitive attitude that he had some dissipated and he was all over. The place It was creating a little bit of friction within the locker room. At least the -ticipant. It doesn't prove it out but at least players themselves felt That here He's not checking down the way he should. He keeps on using his security blanket. Zach ertz he's a very good players as an exceptional tight end but he keeps looking at him constantly where he's not looking up the field the way you should have to see other players that were also open and the flip side of this is that wants himself. Not having the faith and confidence to throw into those tight windows to there's other receivers and people pulling out of the backfield It was creating problems on the offensive line. That where you know. These plays seem to be working. Where's your vision. Where's your you know. What what are you looking at. What do you see what what goes did you seeing right now that we're not seeing What's what's going on here so it starts to build up and If you remember that twenty season they lost a very pivotal game. sunday night national. Tv against the cowboys and they look like they were caught. It looked like they were done. And what started. Actually everything for me was. When i had walked out i was describing to you Personally poli By walking out with a whole position group position group. And i. I made a when i thought at the time was oculus comment by grows really messing this up like tom was the offensive coordinator the eagles. And it's a joke. It's not grow. It's wet so what i'd like. What are we couldn't understand it. Then and then through time. I was fed a little bit more and fed a little bit more. And then finally you know like i go to my editors choice guys i. I think there's something hugh. I think there's something here that we're not really tapping into and it's not just on the field. It looks like there's some things that are going on off the field well with this guy. Well that was that was. It wasn't like what we were seeing as regressed in the second half of two thousand nineteen where everyone said. Oh he's in the mvp conversation. They made the playoffs but in fact he was really not good and he was turning the ball over on third down in the fourth quarter and they were lucky to recover the ball and he was playing awful. Nfl nfc teams and every team. He beat was beaten by some other quarterback in the nfc rookie or a backup more convincingly than they were beaten by wentz but still people were singing his praises and i think the team that he had a lot of power in your organization. It seems to me and it didn't do him any favors. The eagles didn't do him any favors by so empowering him. Joe what is the reaction match guys wanted to me and these are people. These are some people that are high up above the level. He has the with the back. So any as far more powerless time petersen and jo he may even have more power than rosement and this was told to me again can two years ago january twenty first. Twenty nine ninety. It was told to me then if he wanted to. It's just said to me in passing job you wanted to. He could probably get probably get peterson whereas before. And we're talking about the super bowl winning head coach the only super bowl winning head coach in franchise history and we're also talking about the only super bowl winning up and franchise just talking to joe. Santa lukwebo feature writer for the philly voice also president of the boxing writers association of america. Joe and i go back decades at this. Point joins us on the Goodyear hotline at least since like ninety eight or ninety nine. I guess it really is decades. Now joe all right. What's the muscles. What's the reaction in philly today. Okay he has been traded. What are you hearing Joining the states at once on. Here's a beloved guy. Step back for a second. I think everything that happened. Today's group with carson wentz and both good for the organization It got to get a follow up piece but appeared of monday. February eighth of this year mashed monday On there which can reach the point of a possibility as combat Guys in the team got angry at the fact that he was asking for tree he never by the way he never came into by he was looking for trade was broken on the. Espn guys never denied. It publicly That's the barber guys. What you checking out on us. Check it out on us in a way is. You're checking on himself running running from an open a quarterback competition which hurts Guys will come up and say you know. Hey listen watch him after a series watch him how he you know go to the saga. Aren't he'd be by himself. He can on his pack. Not hit put familiar. What else whereas opposed to hurts. Something goes wrong without series. He's gonna come off the field. He wants as much input as as he can from everybody. He couldn't get enough input. What do you see that. I'm not saying was opposed to the other guy who's always been the be like this. You know he he doesn't want newark babies willing to accept any input from anyone else and again these things that were supposedly solved and these things that were trust. Twenty nineteen again began to fester and began to grow Whence as this so-called a hero A show called beloved by the fan base and certainly no match for japan and basis as hard as it gets Suddenly turned on this guy and they could not have gotten him out of here fast enough. I think you're dealing with someone from north dakota state was dealing with a certain element. There are two types of touch players. There that here he comes to a city like philadelphia that is does not exactly fall into everyone gets a trophy you know type of perform. Joe santillo credo brighter for the philly voice and by the way president of the boxer writers association of america is. Join me on the goodyear hotline. Joe is the guy who broke the story in philly that all was not right in philly. That face was being put on it. There were some problems with wentz and ran into some trouble in philly. Because of that. But joe i actually found your reporting on the story nuanced and not just fair but actually kind to everyone involved. You never went away from whence is considered very smart wentz's considered off. He wants to be great. He you know like you made sure to explain that in your reporting and i think do you think the sense is that he is at this point. Been kind of poisoned by the or that. He can be reclaimed like it's an actual reclamation project that might work. I believe in your local mission project that might work. I again talking to current and former players. Got on that team They think he can be fixed. Fixed in philadelphia. No no in terms of the fan base here in terms of the players. He would suddenly that they simply just wanna farm anymore. Max i mean he. He lost all their ship control. And there's i mean he would have to work really really hard to try to get that back i'd like to think this destinations ideal for him. I think indianapolis itself as a city is ideal for him. i think going back to lay. Coddling coach Frank reich is ideal for him He's back also with his pal with his press taylor who was the eagles quote unquote passion coordinator. This past season They also have to wait. Establish themselves because when patel was year with wentz. I've had people already back to the people that already telling me. They've never seen dynamic that ever on the lodge where players coach the coach. What is jerry. I mean terms of boundaries. Where you're on the player. I'm on this side. There's got line in the sand. And max yours is all schools. I am coach. You're on the other side these guys here. It reaches a point in time. I mean when when the chicks are the world speak up and Different types of coaches like that. Speak up listen bad example. Because he's obviously the one of the greatest coaches that ever played in over coach. But there's always that line drawn where on on the coach. I'm not your friend. I'm here to turn around and direct you and you went directions that you should be going. Apparently here in philadelphia. That line seemed to be blurred between press taylor and in question when you're here and wets have united. Here's another thing that's really interesting and the culture to have to deal with this. When carson wentz what's the eagles on micro was. Oc by the way micro now is the wide receivers coach for the colts and when he was the oc here with the eagles once ran him off once boycotting. You know you've got to the way he wanted to do. Things grow had a certain way he wants to do things and do not wanna hear anything from anyway. That stubbornness great on the field. But it reached a point in time where that's strength can be turned around and it certainly was a weakness in terms of carson wentz trying to fit the old proverbial square peg round hole. So there are some things there. That if i'm frank white and parsons the annapolis him and press tower and micro. Sit down the conference room eight guys. Let's get with. Let's talk about this where we wanna go that direction. We wanna go. Joe and whenever we've inches you guys have. Let's get it all out. Get on the same page and move forward. We're up against it at the end of the segment joy. I appreciate you calling in and letting everybody know what has gone on from a from the philadelphia point view. Joe santa luqueno feature writer for the philly voice also president of the boxing writers association of america. Join me on the hotline. At the time. Joe that is the perspective out of philly by the guy who broke the story originally in the philly voice that all was not well in with the eagles behind the scenes with carson wentz. We're going to hear from out of indy. What are they saying in indianapolis today you got carson wentz. That was straight talk wireless. No contract no compromise so coming up. We'll take it from the indianapolis point of view. Here's the good news even with high unemployment. there's still a need for hundreds of thousands of cybersecurity professionals in the us right now. My computer career is training people to help meet the demand no. It experience no problem take the free career evaluation today at my computer career dot. Edu start your new. Life is an it pro. In as little as four months grants covering up to fifty three percent of the cost. Or available to those who qualify. It's not rocket science. It's my computer career dot. 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Mvp caliber player in india. Just here dan orlovsky say he becomes an mvp caliber player in indy. Dan and i are going to go another twelve or fifteen rounds or whatever. The expression is nowadays about this later in this week. Or maybe next week the max kellerman show on espn radio. Espn plus espn app. Siriusxm channel eighty and under smart speaker. Acts max is coming up in about ten minutes. Commu call now eighty eight say. Espn eight eighty seven nine. Three seven seven six. The max kellerman show coming to you. Live from above the heineken. River deck appear seventeen so you heard the philly perspective from the guy who broke the story. Originally that all was not well in paradise right that there were issues with carson wentz before everyone knew it. Joe santillo credo of the voice. Let's hear someone from indie now because they're the ones getting carson wentz john michael vincent j. Mvp loons on the fan in. Indy joins me on the goodyear hotline john. Mack what's going on man. Thanks for coming on well. People were excited about it around here. That's for sure. I'm still a little bit skeptical other than the simple fact. This team needed a quarterback. And you know frank reich. Has that relationship you know in the good times with carson wentz back in philly so that makes a lot of sense and i thought honestly with the deal that they got out of this that this was a situation that you couldn't pass up but if it works out great if it doesn't we'll see what happens but you know we're kinda into purgatory around here with football team of not having a quarterback and putting a band aid on a quarterback. They did that a year ago with philip rivers. It worked out to eleven wins and a playoff appearance. They thought he was going to be here for two years. He decided to go ahead and retire so they needed yet again. Another quarterback and they decided on carson wentz. I'll be honest with you. Max would know this better than i would. I've watched him and certainly hurt all the negativity coming out of philly. He looked like a broken dude me the season even beyond the injuries. Even be on everything that was going on there. Just all the negativity coming out of philly so to me. This won't be a doozy of a fix for frank reich but if it works out people around here are going to view this move as genius. That's why i'm talking to john. Michael vincent out of indy right now. Jam after noons on the fan on the goodyear hotline. John like to me. It's an overpay you have to take on a big contract even if the cap is going up and whatever and you're giving up a third this year they couldn't even get a second round pick. This year i get that but conditional second next year so it's going to be at least a second round pick. I don't know how it becomes a first round. Pick if you do. Please illuminate me. Because i really don't understand how that's gonna work but at any rate look i understand. It's a moonshot in the sense that in the sense that there's huge upside because wentz in two thousand seventeen was a great quarterback. He was excellent. But there's so much regression did indeed just not feel that they could get their hands on a better solution than carson wentz was. This was this frank reich saying no no no i can fix this guy talking to wentz taking his temperature to see how willing he was to work. You know because it seems to me in a second. You can actually draft a quarterback. Maybe well it's funny maxine to bring that up because yeah i think that had a lot to do with his prior relationship and thinking believing that he can return him to that level of greatness but the options. Obviously we're not there. I mean we talked around here about you. Know the possibility of carson wentz or sam darnold and neither of those options around here really give me too much to scream about but you know the evil part of this is the fact that you don't have a quarterback other the jacobson and with the team. It's really weird here. Because normally you have the quarterback that you draft and you build a team around the quarterback but because of what andrew lucked in a couple of years ago. They've had to try to place the quarterback around the team and that's kind of backwards from what you normally see by standards of building a championship. You know quote unquote level team in the nfl. But yeah it's that. And i think it is the price tag because we'll see ultimately this is going to be one next year. There's no doubt about it. And i know the colts originally silly wanted to go. I think with fifty percents Playing next year. But kohl's got up that up to seventy five and let's face it if they don't meet that mark is going to be a disaster around here because you have an owner. That's ready to win right now. That's the thing about the colts. That's the thing about the colts is. Why understand why you don't draft the guy because you're ready to win now. This is a team and the clinton nelson draft pick was as good as everyone thought it would be when i think of the best interior offensive linemen non center's best guards i've ever seen. Maybe it's a recency biased. But i can't think of anyone. I've seen a force field around him when he's on the field so you're gonna protect carson wentz. You have weapons. You have a defense. You have a lot going on in indianapolis and they're ready to win now. The question is is carson wentz and upgrade over philip rivers. We'll have to see. I don't know it didn't look like last year now. He the problem with me. Max with rivers last year is we saw that final offensive drive in buffalo and the wild card weekend that he was unable any longer and his age to get a team on his shoulder. And take it down the field so you needed a stronger certainly more mobile quarterback now they got that we just don't know in a sense his body max looks okay. We just don't know where his head is right now. And that's essentially the biggest part of it worries a lot of people here without question but this is also this is going to catapult the colts. I think i've heard some things about you know. Jj watt who has not been mentioned as far as the colts are concerned a know that a couple of people in that building over there like him. So we'll see if now there are going to become part of this conversation and we'll see where they go in free agency. They do have some money to spend fifth best as far as the caps situation is concerned so the time is definitely now. We'll see you started win. Is gonna legitimately be able to push them up to where both frank reich. Jim saying chris. Ballard delisi can john. Michael vincent j m v in the afternoons on the fan. An indie on the your hotline. Thank you very much for joining me today. Gimme the indy perspective can fix them for real. Obviously he thinks he can. They wouldn't be taken them. How much better is wentz than than rivers. Well he has more upside. that's for sure. What should the realistic expectations be. This is boomer bust either end. He's gonna fix them and they're going to be real super bowl threat or they're not going to end. It's a big bus because you've got to give up a third and second over a two year period. That's real draft capital coming coming muck xt. I can't speak english today. Coming up next acts. Max eighty eight say. Espn the max kellerman. Show espn radio and espn. Plus the max kellerman show the podcast forgotten about the nets and the lakers are going to get to that and twenty minutes. The max kellerman show on espn radio. Espn plus the espn app. Siriusxm channel eighty and on your smart speaker. But they are. There is breaking news today. What are your thoughts on the trade. A third round pick this year of conditional second. That could be a first next year. Acts max coming up. Wanna get to your calls eight say. Espn eight eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven six. The max kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance making it easy to bundle your home and car insurance ex max matt in iowa which you got to say what. They're getting rid of went. They'd like go peterson. yeah he was. It was super bowl coach. I agree on the surface. It doesn't make sense. I to keep anybody in the howie roseman. Doug peterson carson wentz trio. I think there was a good argument. Just clean house. Get rid of him if you're going to keep anyone. You should've kept peterson. But they got rid of the coach and the quarterback and the gm who's kind of more responsible for the mess and either the coach order. The quarterback is still there. Go figure richard manhattan. You're on the max keller and show. Espn radio max. Your point yes. Today about batman and robin from nineteen sixty nine seventy two nineteen seventy eight seventy nine ten years the most dominant player in basketball dominant. More than my go. Mervyn lebron more than shack. singa swish cream up triple. He wasn't more dominant than michael jordan incorrect but he was extremely dominant. Michael jordan at his peak was more dominant even then jabbar. He averaged more points in a league where it was difficult to average those points as a guard who was also a great defensive player. I don't know but but kareem kareem was the all time greatest college potentially athlete or most dominant college athlete. Ever in his sport you can only play three years back. Then he played three years won three national championships. Three players of the year player of the year awards and almost never lost a single game. Like a couple of games in his entire career then he turned pro one six championships in the pros up there the maximum show. Espn radio eight eight. Say espn eight. Eight seven nine three seven seven six. The max kellerman show presented by progressive insurance. We're doing acts. Max right now and twenty minutes kendrick perkins drops by to preview. The nets and the lakers michigan. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio america. Wonder wondering what you thought about. The steelers situation with haskins government in and look ben being on his way out. Thanks fan love. Show thanks Well ben rothlisberger still competent. But i don't think the steelers are looking for competent. I think they're looking for a guy who can win a super bowl. atkins is that guy. I had high hopes for him once upon a time. But i don't know i've heard things has contested. The side is he trying to be a great player not and he has disappointed so far in his career now that steelers lining or do him any favors that steelers line. I mean the reason ben. Rothlisberger had to change the style of quarterback he played is because they can't pass protect and the can't run block. That's a bad combination. But i the steelers have not done. A good enough job was mesa new office at this one. They haven't done a good enough job. Identifying the heir apparent. You know. those guys aren't growing on trees. But you gotta find someone and in the meantime if rothlisberger wanted to come back on a team. Friendly deals a stopgap free. You're at least be competitive. I understand ten and albert. You're on the max kellerman show espn radio. Hey max a win is the value of the shawn watson and that trade the greatest like is it today or is it one day. Pass the drought or one day past the story of training. I think it's before the draft because that's when everyone's trying to get their ducks in a row. And i think if matthew stafford gets you jared goff and his bad contract but also to first and then they also get a third for that already forgetting at any rate to shawn watson. The bidding should start at three firsts. And i think right. Now what does shawn needs to find out is do the texans really like to still or do they think the sean real upgrade because if miami really likes if miami would trade and their number three pick and the eighteenth pick and maybe their second round picks this year at least their first round pick next year. No one's gonna have a better deal than that. And then to. Sean could wind up in miami which i would think would be as preference. Vows to sean. The no no state income tax glamorous destination excellent team on the rise usually if someone trade. You all that you're going to a team not that good right but in rebuild like the jets know. Miami's not gonna rebuild. So that's really what you have to figure out. But i think his trade values highest before the draft coming up big perk kendrick perkins on nets lakers and more carson wentz indy. It's the max kellerman show. Espn radio espn. Plus the max kellerman. Chill the podcast.

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"If you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then. Zero in on your short list of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash. Get up before we crank up a new our leftist all watch how much Damien woody enjoyed himself. At the islander game lasts the talent about I. I didn't. I didn't know the chance so people had to teach me but it was good. Look at look it up coke. Get anybody a kid. One almost hit a kid directly interface. I wouldn't work is work kids. Stay alert those hands out the author. Did you bring the home team. Lucky they win. They they want they look good and they'll have you back that's right That we welcome you to another Arab. Get up and coming to you live every morning. From above the Heineken River Decade Pier. Seventeen and it's going to be a a busy hour here. We go with comic with team turmoil. After all the ups and all the downs it all comes down to tonight the first playoff game but the NFL season is on the schedule. And we're reading plus. We've never seen anything like this. Is the Mark Jackson changing the way the game is played or just never been anyone quite like. We'll talk about it. It finally Thanksgiving is going to be wild at the river's household if you didn't see what happened last night. You're not gonNA believe it. We're getting ready for all that more. It's time to get up with you right right now the week. Eleven of the NFL season starting tonight First Energy Stadium in Cleveland Browns. steelers everything in the world. Riding on this game minkah Fitzpatrick actress has been a difference maker for Pittsburgh. Three Straight Games with the pick longest streak by steelers since Troy Paulo valid. Eleven years ago Brown's three and six but they played the fourth toughest schedule according to our analytics and they have the easiest schedule remaining bear winless in their last eight against Pittsburgh. They'll need a win tonight at home. And they'll probably we face games connor. He's expected to return after missing the last two games with a shoulder injury. He's rushed for one hundred thirty five yards in two touchdowns in each of his last two games against the browns around. So if you're just joining us in our first hour we focused on Pittsburgh and the season. They're having a great coaching job. That Mike Tomlin has done. Let's now focus for a moment here on the browns. This is a team that you foxy. We've been talking about them since the summer. It really all comes down to tonight. If they lose eight is open over and I think that they do tonight. I think that that defense. That the pick that the steelers always have is outstanding in the red zone offense for the browns. They've gotten better on turning the ball over. They've gotten better on penalties but they're raised off its twenty eight and success rate or their plays in the red zone. And that's going to be a problem. You're going to need to score touchdowns you can't get away with just field goals and I think fifteen is bad because it's poorly coach. What do they know it's over for the browns little too little little too late? I think we'll see them build towards the end of the season but Greenie you make your strides in the national football league in the off season you make your strike during. Ota's during mini camp. That don't make your strides in the middle of a week in the middle of Game Matz. That's not what you make your drives. They accumulated too many losses early on chef. Gay if it does come to a hopeless end tonight and I don't necessarily mean in what happens this week but in the long run the fallout. There's been a lot of criticism on this at among other places of Freddie Kitchens. Does it feel like a change. There would be inevitably you see the stat that Trey Wingo reminded me of this morning. Basically the browns have a history of losing to the steelers firing. Now tell you. That's happening tonight. But I uh well I got the steelers. The named Dolphin named the steelers again. It doesn't have tonight. Maybe we have a couple of weeks let me give you the exact exact information. That our friend Trey trotted out and bring all the pressure that has been on Freddie Kitchens this season but as you pointed out this year or this morning. History system may be problematic matichon Freddie Kitchens Cleveland Pittsburgh tonight. The less six browns coaches have all been fired after a steelers game. Hugh Jackson Mike. Rogers inskeep Pat Shurmur. Eric Mangy Romeo Penelope. They lose to Pittsburgh to get Bart. I'm just saying this team has a history of doing that so I challenge him if he doesn't come through with a victory tonight to keep Cleveland. She ended up with that list. I had forgotten. I want you to hear what Baker Mayfield had to say this week about the home field advantage in the home crowd and then we'll react. Let's hear it offense. We needed to be quiet. Might have ruffled some feathers once again. That's okay but when we're offense critical critical down. We need to be able to have silence in say it's got to be an advantage dressing. Then when they get the ball. It's gotta be really up. Let's just face football. What I mean was someone asking him like remedial football questions? I don't even understand. What is that literally? That was first and then I thought okay this somebody asked him a question related or he just all of a sudden out of the blue. Just start speaking crowd be quiet. You need to shut up. That's that's one thing about Baker Mayfield I appreciate. He will save us on his mind. Yeah but the fact that Ed when you're not like a good team air new I don't think the irony here though. The whole world is except for have been begging for Baker to stop talking and now Baker is begging for his own fan base to stop talking when he's on offense celebrity. No it makes sense though. None of what he said is wrong. Maybe he's not the one that needs to tell them but they're not used to being part of a franchise that has expectations and maybe the stadium is not used to being out on quiet when I have to stop. Are we suggesting that we think the problem in Cleveland biggest problem tipline seven coaches in the last fifteen minutes. The problem has been crowd noise from the dog pound. Obviously that must be the issue who knew that the dog the dog pound was an uneducated fan. But obviously that's not the problem but when you you are living on a knife edge they are you want everything perfect. Don't do anything that's GonNa make it any harder. Nacre Mayfield shut up and let him figure this out really comes down to the fact that the browns stink every little soundbite from Baker Mayfield. It draws this reaction. Yeah so that's where it'll start tonight in Cleveland. We'll see how loud the crowd is on the offensive possessions for the home team. And what is a certainty. I opened up the show this morning by saying. It's IT'S A playoff game. It's the first playoff game of the season winner. Has a chance loser is done. Let's go to Dallas where the hit keep on coming head coach Jason Garrett. The Vikings took a fourteen not nothing lead on Sunday night in the first quarter. Thanks largely to this thirty are gaining was the longest play of the day and it came on a plane which the cowboys had just ten men breath on the field playing Defense Jason Garrett Address yesterday saying quote obviously you want to have eleven and we did have handled the situation well enough typically a time out comes from the sidelines in certain situations players have taken time out we just one on top of it fast fast enough to see that and process the whole thing and get it call. I'm speechless. I Baker Mayfield is explaining. The crowd should be quiet when the offense has the ball and Jason Garrett is saying and I'm quoting obviously you want to have eleven. Usually someone say something. I've run out of. Where did we hear it is? I'm the only one here who is going to try to find a way. It is not uncommon to have too few players too many players on the field. It happens happens to all teams that happens to well coached teams. That happens to good teams. The timeout is an issue. But I've certainly been on plenty of teams with good coaches and great players where you end up with ten on the field because they got confused on personnel packages. The problem with this is just a laundry list of mistakes for him so you go into that same game where they made poor decisions late in the game. You Miss Ten men on on appeal you can go back many years and have him make poor decisions. This one isolated incident does not proved me that this is a bad coach. He would see this making me angry the anger you gonNa tell you why it makes me angry lease because I put all ma I put. I really pushed the chips in on the cowboys. This you the Super Bowl and then here what what did they say he says. I said obviously you want to have eleven. Obviously certain walking. Take a look Hall Stop It. You don't out tight spot but don't ship it was too. He was the coach when all much on the table to bail out confusing to figure a way to rationalize that he will figure this out your book. So I'll tell you what I've got a life vest. Yeah I don't even know where taking this this point anymore and they look. The reality of the situation is this. We have heard repeatedly Dan. Grazziano is in here with US earlier in the week. Shefty and he says repeatedly what Jerry Jones wants and his heart of hearts is to keep Jason Garrett as his coat but this is where the rubber meets the road this year by pushing all of his chips. And that's not just d woods. But by re-signing Zeke Elliot at a time that he absolutely didn't have to jerry put all his chips in the center visit for Jason Garrett. Right either they're going win it now or they're going to find a new coach before this an awful lot on Jason Garrett and he's one of the longest tenured head coaches in the NFL. And all I'm saying is at this time last year. All you heard word was if they didn't have a successful player Front Jason Garrett wasn't going to be back and he was back and now we're hearing the same conversation again and again. I think his contract is up after this so there is an issue and it's hard to imagine right now. This season goes south and then they're going to extend him so there. Is that out there. Is that little stipulation. That's a key factor here but there's been so much talk about Jason Gas for so long now that you're almost because he's walking. He's walking on something. Is this the sooner or later. This is going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. They have one of the best young linebacking core Greenie. They have a great quarterback great running back allegedly that they paid a lot of the money to an Amari Cooper. They shouldn't be five and four. Jason geared the thinnest device. Obviously he's been on thin ice ten years you want. You want to have eleven mice all right. Let me learn Chevy stuff on. I did injury updates from Adam schefter go. What is the latest on Colts quarterback? Jim Kobe Bryant. He's he's tracking to play on Sunday. Greenie after missing last week's game against Miami Frank Reich. The colts coach said that if there are no setbacks this week that you Kobe percent will start Sunday Day Against Jacksonville. Despite the fact that he's got the knee injury so Brian. We're back to the bench. Kobe percent back the lineup and that obviously will make the coats and more dangerous team on offense. Forty niners off their loss on Monday night. Critical injury situation. George Kibble Joe Staley. What's the latest? They're both not going to play on Sunday. Joe Staley underwent surgery agree on a finger just came back injury so they used to not having him for George Kill Cows Shannon the forty niners head. Coach already has ruled him out of Sunday's game against Arizona so they have to make you adapt their best offensive player and the chargers are in Colorado preparing for their game against the chiefs in Mexico on Monday. What are we hearing Monday night? We're going to be Mexico City for the chiefs and the chargers I and so. The Jarvis took the progressive step of going down to the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs heightened altitude. Spend a week. They're getting us to. It's real when you go play in those conditions and you sucking win and so. The charges are trying to acclimate themselves this week. We'll see whether that's an advantage for them over a huge game for both teams and then we get to this the NCWA. Elliot's handed Ohio States Chase young a two game suspension. He'll miss Saturday against ruckers. He'll be eligible to return against number nine Penn state the week after that young already ready set out last week against Maryland after admitting he accepted alone from a family friend last year but repeated in full he tweeted excited to be back on the field next week. Thank you Buckeye. The Nation for all the love and support. I'm blessed to be a part of this team. This university in this community. Lots of love to my family. God bless and go bucks. I've said all along the Penn state game aim is the line of demarcation. It's one thing to suspend him for games against Maryland and rutgers which they were going to win without him. It's another thing entirely with Penn State Michigan and their whole season sitting out there. You're in front of them and I wanted to bring Jae Willing to the conversation. Talk about this as well because it was quite a remarkable day last Friday. You're on who might be the number one pick in the NFL draft being suspended by the NCAA. Then James Wiseman who might be the number one pick in the NBA draft going through whatever it is exactly going on right. He's playing. It's it's all crazy so I'd like to get all of your your perspective and J. We'll start with you. What do you make of where we sit right now in the latest round of NC Double A.? Verses Says Athlete. What would the chase young thing? I find it fascinating extremely fascinating inconvenient for the NC Double A. So it reminds me. Terrell prior prior got suspended for selling his ring right now they were gonNA suspend him for the Rose Bowl. You can go play in the Rose Bowl because that's our biggest product. We need that to sell games. But we're going to suspend you when you come back now you decide the NFL. The happened right but I find the same situation here. Okay show that. We're not GONNA worry about Maryland Rutgers but when Yeah Penn state that's been game that's a game that's good for our brand. We need you to play playing games. So we'll give you a two-game suspension before so. Hey I'm not going to stand for all this Maryland. Slander we'll be. I think that you can explain. Explain all the things that happened. NCW with one simple acknowledgment is that the players don't have any power all the questions that we have is about the players not having any power you know who was is not hurting this. The Ohio state wasn't hurt at all. NCW wasn't hurt at all. The only person that they hurt this and embarrassed frankly and took him off. The field was chase young because the players I have no power and influence. Ohio state has a lot of power and influence over the NC Double A.. And they're fine. Okay take for these. These games will win even Maryland almost beat them last year but they they're not gotta have a missing for the important game that they need him to win the NC double eight. You look weak. Figure out what you want to you. Got To suspend them for four games which is utterly ridiculous. Or you're not gonNA suspend them at all but then you're gonna go out and suspend them for four then realize it's an idiotic decision back door on your decision retracted and then try to suspend them for two games to to your point to meaningless games no disrespect to meaningless games to me Greenie the NC Double A.. They look weak. Figure out what you're going to stand for right now. They don't stand for any part of the reason for that. If indeed you believe they look is that the tide is turning on this right now. Things are changing and a and not just in public opinion. Not just the court of public opinion but in the actual courts in California and other places things are changing and they have to react and changes are being made. They're being forced to consider things we know they don't want to historically they don't want to consider so where nets APP. Sometimes we have to break a few eggs to make an Omelet along the way. It's completely unfair to the eggs in this case chase young as the egg in my analogy green. But what I'm trying to say is they're headed to a place right now. They've never been before is changing because the public perception look back. Gaza Lebron yes. He imagined that the players actually had a voice. Can you imagine if the players were allowed to establish a union which would mean that. They've had to be deemed employees. Next voices. Step up one time that ended very very badly. I don't know I don't think that's the answer. I don't know what the answer is but I know the answer was not keeping this kid off the field if the circumstances are what they have been presented to be. Let me get you to the NBA here. J. Well we had a good deal last night clippers and the rockets and you pointed out earlier walking the walk and he's walking like a fifty bureau. He does not look comfortable as he makes his way against James Harden and then no one looks comfortable trying to guard. James Harden Greenie all. I'm saying that Russell Westbrook had four thousand the first quarter. No Eric Gordon Gordon no Daniel House and James Harden goes up for forty seven. Forty seven is exactly right. The rockets had a twelve point halftime lead. Now we're in the fourth quarter. This cave Tawhid. Clippers had led by as many as seventeen but steve bombers teams fighting but in the end. It's the rockets are just keep knocking down. Threes J. Will Russell Westbrook Silvio. We're not GONNA shots. Didn't play a lot in this game. But still him. And James Harden single-handedly kept his team involved westbrook at seventeen and as you mentioned. James Harden seven threes forty forty. Seven points unstoppable. All might long as there's not a whole lot. You can do when he gets. It going seem more from harden. He's fired up last night putting on his show. As the rockets kids get the win and hardened stop the chat when it was done performance sick into this. He wasn't feeling feeling well. But you know who is really feeling bad was doc rivers. Here's a remarkable moment in this. NBA game last night. Rivers became frustrated over dispute over. How many time outs he had left in? This is game. We'll get to the details. But that's his son. Look at the name on the back of Austin Rivers Jersey is rivers. And that's not a coincidence. That's DOC's son who's basically telling everybody get an Ad Patty here get the coach out team up. He got thrown out at Austin said calming. I don't know if you noticed Austin was behind you kind of telling the rest of the team should should. I didn't just saw actually look before many times once. He starts blinking his eyes fast. I want to know his love. Love Star Tone Tony Again. They they got seven stilling Cindy Ruby. Yorkshire Played One. More time for Thanksgiving. That will be a me. I doubt we'll go to dinner. Yes she is sensitive sculpture. So we'll see what happens but I love him. I mean it was a really good moment. I enjoyed it a lot. Among among a lot of you I really did enjoy. That often himself tweeted afterwards. Well Thanksgiving is going to be weird so Jay. We'll let me get a just a quick reaction China from you on that that's certainly unusual circumstance to say the least all's Fair in love and war right and by the way last year when Austin rivers plays for Dhaka versus the clippers. He got traded to the Washington Wizards right and guess who was the coach. That team his own dad. So these are the things that happen. It's called payback. Yes exactly okay. So there's that that's sort of a fun little moment last night then we're looking at a couple of MVP caliber players out there. You Got Russell Westbrook who was a former. MVP didn't have a huge James Harden a former MVP did have a huge coup. Why if worn for load management would be in the mix? Where do we stand about a month into this thing as far as MVP is? I think you guys you guys like Luca Danni. WHO's obviously in the conversation? Lebron James Jaanus but I I think right now the league is James Harden and in fact. He's averaging thirty. Seven points per game has more points in the first thing games than in the past fifty years of the NBA history. And the fact what he's doing doing green and he still has it all the way found his rhythm shooting the ball yet and we watched the game last night. Russell Westbrook four thousand in the first quarter. First quarter. No Eric Gordon. No Daniel House. Eric Gordon is like the other guy that can create off the dribble. Everything relies upon James Harden. They found a way to be a team that everybody's pegged to win the whole one of the things I love about harden is that he plays every night he plays big minutes every sing and an era of load management. I remember bringing that up to Jalen last year and Jalen said to me and I quote no one gets tired hard playing offense and so maybe that's what it is right hardens GonNa play every single night for you. Look now they rank twenty-sixth said a bit last and defensive efficiency. I think if they get to like like eighteen. Nineteen that chance to win it. I mean the highest highest scoring offense in the NBA fast pace in the NBA. If they can be marginal defensively pensively there'll be not commerce ever seem to watch. Meanwhile then you remember you said they had no chance of winning. Get an idea and they still don't get up and go. Here's a team. That does Paul. George expected expected to make his season debut for the clippers. Tonight Jay will what does he mean to them. Well he makes him a lot better princeton. This guy was top three in the MVP voting last year. And he's going to be counted. Also defensively Sibley it gives him another wing that win linter is low managing. PG Can pick up the slack next college football. Nick Sabin said yesterday to a Tongo by it will be a game in time. Decision Saturday against Mississippi State. ATRO- what chance do you give Alabama to still make the College Football Playoff Alabama. Still have a really good chance Greenie but a lot has has to go wrong. They have to hope that Georgia winsome games after hope that the PAC twelve lose some games so Alabama. I think they're GONNA make we've seen it before and people love the SEC. I agree I agree with you completely. Better chance than not that they get in baseball. Awards Season Justin Verlander and Jacob. degrom taking home the CY young awards and the American and National Leagues Respectively Justin Verlander. Edging his teammate. Gerry Cole. The ground got twenty nine of the thirty first place votes to win. His second straight award is the eleven pitcher ever to win the CY young in consecutive seasons we take a short time out. Much more coming in this hour. You may want to compare Lamar Jackson to Sean. Mark Jackson Shawn Watson the quarterback Akis facing this weekend. You'll hear why the Ravens quarterback says that's a big mistake as we continue and as great as Patrick Mahomes is. There's no way he and the chiefs miss the playoffs despite a huge holes on defense right maybe not answers to those and others as we continue on. Espn we have a little eye candy for you. Here J. will feast your eyes on John Morand spectacular rookie. What to win the game at the very lahser against Charlotte? How about that? Look at the defense. He goes through John put on the show last night. This kid is probably going to win. Rookie of the year. He's well rested. You know load managed last week. They look managed to rookie last week in the NBA NBA. I wear that furniture. Everyone knows that somewhere. He's nineteen years old. He's got to be very tired very tired. Anyway had a good night last night as we continue so you get up in five minutes. It's the matchup of the weekend and we'll break it down then. The very latest on Colin Kaepernick. 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His career is very very bright. And it's GonNa continue to do things you see some of yourself him no obsolete. Lamar Jackson Ball Tina buzzbomb. Okay so we talked about it earlier earlier this morning. We're going to get the final word. Let's do a little comparison of these two superstar young quarterbacks yeah. I couldn't be more excited about this superstar matchup between superstar quarterback. I'm not I'm telling you the better player is I'm just looking at three things arm leg and Moxie and trying to figure out. WHO HAVE THE COMPETITIVE I? We're going to start with the better of the two arms if we take a look at the tape real quick. Now that he's quarterbacks Anthony Football that boy Assan Watson this is back in two thousand seventeen. He got a a rocket launcher attached to shoulder thing fifty nine year old. That thing was so so so pretty but not to be denied. I mean l'amour everybody thinks we can only run but this is a pretty nice ball the best part about this. He didn't underthrown a man named Hollywood round would probably run about a four to forty so lamar he can throw it and now the Nice Dro and the Shaun Can Tho a two but me I gotta go with John who has the better on now. It helps if you can run a little bit because you can. If you can run you can pass not WanNa look at who has a better legs take a look at the tape real quick. Everybody's going to think clearly it's the mark clearly it's the more. Hey don't forget about that. Do Shawn Watson forty nine yard touchdown run back in the day before towards ACL Pharma Defensive Bombing Get up off me out runs defensive back back. He actually has a long career. Touchdown run then Lamar Jackson but boy that boy Lamar Jackson something special now takes off zone. Read a quick one-two Steph took like scenario big move and then take that thing all the way to the crib. Who in many dances on them? So again the son Mike told you he has a real long and just down run but this is a no brainer Greenie. The best legs got to go to the mall. Now lastly moxy. I know what you're thinking. What the heck is Moxie well? Strength of Oh character will to win determination. The last thing to me. That really defines a quarterback. I WANNA take a look at the tape. Who really has the toughest will to win? Well the sign when talk about where to win. Greenie won't talk about getting kicked in the I got one. I like a pirate and fits in a touchdown pass. That's six points right there but again Dan Martin Jackson I mean he got a little bit of Moxie to now sees a little bit of a rush takes off to the right. Get off me lime and I'm gonNA throw it back across my body. What's you you don't do? And he pours his all angles in the outfield and to his receivers hands. So Lamar tough he got moxie. But when you get kicked in and you still don't what touchdown path that got to go to Basan Watson. I know what you're thinking. I know what you're thinking. I talk to two one Watson. Lamar is that dude is one thing I left out swagger sweater and the person who's swagger is unmatched. This man Moammar Japhet putting on a sunglasses on the bench. That man right there the dog. So what I'm saying. Stay in here Greenie. I can't decide. Let them decide on Sunday and no no no. We can't have that Alexa fucking decide. I Sir I'm Shawn Watson Meek was team Lamar D would was team to Sean. What do you got to be on? One team can draft doc one quarterback to start your team with if I only drive what I'm a just any many MO- okay got model disarm. Well done all right. It's a great looking. Obviously it should be very interesting weekend. Meanwhile we have a story of an entirely different nature about a different quarterback in a different circumstance reaction pouring in across the sport to the news of the legal he will hold a workout for Colin Kaepernick in Atlanta on Saturday. One of those talking about it yesterday. Kapernick former teammate. Eric Reed. My Ghost told me this at a P R stunt. Because they've done so many over the past couple of years so I believe when I see it was he whatever he feels disingenuous. He has an opportunity and that the legal sin representative team. But it's the Saturday before game. It seems to travel what head coach. Jim was able to make this. But as far as I'm okay all right so I have to start with shefty because no one has more insight into things as what's actually happening than you do. I know you're talking to everyone on all sides of this. Give me the latest latest is. We're waiting to see whether this actually happens on Saturday. The NFL has gone out and extended the invitation that Colin Kaepernick camp hip which was surprised by the invitation. Knew nothing about it until the NFL extended the offer on Tuesday basically said Hey. We'd like a list of the attendees he's on a daily basis and that camp says that the NFL said it would provide that the NFL is not provided that and the NFL has said that. We didn't say that we would provide that so they're bickering over who's going going to be in attendance so on the one hand you have the NFL pushing out this idea and really arranging in unprecedented private pro day This is not something you ever see so for that I guess the NFL should be applauded for them. Getting behind searching effort to make this happen on the other hand Eric Reed used the word disingenuous disingenuous. I think that's a great word because if you'RE GONNA plan it why not call Colic Africa's represented and say we'd like to have a few what works for you. What would you like to do? What do you you think would be a good idea rather than dictating the terms once and for all and so there was no give and take it was? NFL saying this is how it's going to be. This is when it's going going to be and we can get it done and it's a Saturday at three o'clock what GM and hey coach going to be there all excited for the workout. Can't wait to see all the GM's the head coach is now. I don't want to read certain emotions in a tweet. But when he says can't wait to seal the head coach is there in the Saturday what. GM Hey hey. Coach is going to be there the day before game. What head coach? Jim is going to give up his by to go. Watch a player workout. When two years and eight months to work at a player that nobody's worked worked out? Nobody's GonNa be there from a head coach and general manager stamp nobody so quickly because the the question people keep asking me and I don't have an answer. I don't know if you do either do. Do we have any sense. What provoked this the many to guess where where we do not know for sure but I again speaking to various people? I think what happened my own interpretation and not a fact. My Interpretation Sense is that on October Tenth Colin Kaepernick's camp released two page statement stating all the facts as we headed out here somewhere this morning. Probably got the papers where he said. Basically that Colin Kaepernick has not been invited to a team. Society is not into routines. He's not worked Out For teams. They laid out a bunch of facts and I don't think the NFL liked Colin. Kaepernick dictating how they view. History should be rid the. NFL Intern turn opened up. The can of worms which I think would have been better off left close and now in a week where we got more Jackson to show them watch plane. We're spending a whole lot of time. Talking mccollum Catholic and the controversy been reignited absolutely. I think everyone is chance to just to weigh in with the perspective. I will start with you. I agree with Schefters last point the NFL. Now we'll get to control the dictate the Narrative Colin Kaepernick's camp did released that statement than NFL. Now you give him a try out and you can now say well. He didn't look that good and that's why we haven't signed him as opposed to the whole narrative narrative for Colin Kaepernick's career being the NFL colluded against Colin Kaepernick. Now the NFL will dictate it. It's a lose lose for cabinet. You go and you. You don't work out and they'll say well you didn't really WanNa play you go and you do work out now the NFL dictates inert. I could get on board with all of that and agree with you. If it weren't for the fact that Noah can answer for me the question why this it wasn't an issue they made it in issue they are either really really silly or dumb or they expect him to sign somewhere some team is very serious about signing him. Why else would you reopen? This can of worms and does not make sense to be so. I anticipate that Colin Kaepernick will be on a roster if not agreed. Pr Good PR is. Come out it's some teams series but sunny. And why did they need to have a pretty good do why because they because my belief my theory is that they wanted this in the news. They wanted to see how the public would react. Why anyone anyone is going to get upset? If we're going to get up here and say what are they doing. This is dumb more fans and we like we don't want him back in the league. This was a trial balloon that they floated and they had a detached from any particular team name so they didn't go down. Give the final word. You always felt like this was a PR cover. But I do feel like Eric hit on the head this disingenuous by the league the fact that you just drop out of the Scott now until listen you need you gotta do this on a Saturday at three. No nobody with how Reagan officials. We'll be available at all Saturday at three o'clock. I think that's that's crazy. I find it confusing. That's why I opened by saying this morning. It's one of these the more questions you ask the more confused infused you can become the one thing I know for sure. Schefter will continue to cover it all day long sports on coming your way. Six o'clock eastern tonight after Kevin and Keith will be here is tonight make or break for Baker in the Browns against the steelers the NFL MVP will join the show with immediate reaction and Watson store for kristaps porzingis in his return to New York. All that more sportscenter on. ESPN right after PTO coming up the NFL is a quarterback league. So I give you one quarterback to win a game that you need to win and take all my friends will answer that question next. You're watching get up on ESPN. Yeah so I grew up a child of the nineties. Play techmo bowl growing up play. Although Jackson you play Water Payton the guys were completely on a tackle. And I'll I'll never forget the Tommie Frazier Game Against Florida in the ninety six Fiesta Ball Nebraska. Got This ground and pound triple option. And then you see Tommy Frazier's carry it around right end and there's nine ten four players there and he totally just tag on balls and this runs right into the middle of a bunch of those guys. You just Kinda see Florida flying everywhere everywhere. And it's the greatest individual college football play I've ever saints. Tommie frazier tackles kept one man. You know you hear people people talk about their first experience doing this and that and they're trying to get back to that point trying to same feeling seeing that one more time and I've never experienced it again again. I've watched football wanting to see a play that magnificent and it's never happened again all right back here on get Russell. Wilson handed the forty niners their first loss of the season Monday night making big plays down the stretch in an overtime win for Seattle battle. Wilson is having an unbelievable year and is in many people's mind the favourite to win his first. NFL MVP that will be the subject of our first on the clock this morning morning with Niki and D would here. We go sixty seconds if you needed one quarterback to win a game this season. Who's the one quarterback you're taking d what man we just talked about? Russell Wilson. Listen when you look at the Seattle seahawks offense they got. He's made towel lock number one receiver you got. Dj mechanisms rookie out there injury tied in. He's made he's elevating making all those guys veteran they only have to speak on the fourth. Quarter comebacks this guys has had throughout the season to me. If I need to win a game long Russell. Well hey well I mean the spurs comebacks is also Argument against them because they need to have the comeback. I'm going with Patrick Mahomes the guy who has never had a bad game. His worst games are still more than three hundred yards in multiple touchdowns he is fantastic even on a bad knee. He put them in position to win. Everyone around Tim including a special teams failed him. But if I didn't have any one quarterback in this league that I believe in his Patrick. I can't believe the lifelong fan of the New York jets has to be the one to say this but are we just overlooking overlooking and even advanced age. Tom Brady how we're not overlooking or who we saw what happened and then six games I can think of you said boy said it right right now right now. That's we're not talking about legacy but right now I get it but the last biggest game of the year with a winning quarterback. That's all I can say next. Let's mention your chiefs there now. Six and four after a loss to the titans. Their defense is just horrendous. Is there any chance. They missed the playoffs. Sixty seconds absolutely not. I think not only do they make the playoffs even coming from the wild card round. I feel like I think they're going to make it to the superbowl because as much as we talk poorly about their deepen their defense is better just about every measurable medicine as a per play basis. They're better per game her drive. Their defense is better. Passing homes and offense is going to score a lot of points and their biggest competition is going to be the Patriots. The Patriots cannot run the ball. And that is the only weakness or the major weakness on the chiefs. Defense is their inability to stop the run. I see them making it out before they get to deal with the Patriots. They gotta deal with the raiders. Who are going to be seven and four into we? Listen I think the question is is it a possibility yes it is is a possibility. Listen as great pets plate last week. They spill loss to the Tennessee. Titans why because their defense they're killing has let them down again. That's not who they are. Why isn't it if they lost? They lost in part because they're holder wasn't looking when they snapped the ball like that was kind of a game. Their defense isn't great. Great understand but not like this riot. Cana- hill went right down to the field with them and beat them to win that game. That's not one of the the elite quarterbacks that we're talking about they'll have to deal with the rest of the way in the AFC last one cowboys. Eagles both tied at five and four does not feel like a wildcard is coming out of the NFC East so who wins the NFC sneak. Oh yeah definitely the cowboys. I think the cowboys have had a lot of things to be upset about. But they are beating their teams in margin argenta yards by more than one hundred yards only other teams in the league that are doing that the Patriots in the forty niners. They've had some really bad games but they're bad laws or their losses were by on average four points and their wins. They lead the League and win marks. I think this is a good yet inconsistent team. We don't. It's hard to find positive things or consistent things to point to for the Eagles so so I suspect that debt Prescott my phantom MVP nominee is gonNA have a great season going forward if the defense can step up to their level of talent. They'll winning is that you bring all the analytics but I'm no but however I'm GonNa go with a no Doug Peterson Carson Wentz and I think the Philadelphia the Eagles Heaven identity that quite honestly I don't know what the Dallas cowboys have at this point. The defense should be playing a lot better than the talented they have on their roster the running game. I'm still isn't up to par whether it be dolphins line. Or the Zeke. Possibly being out of course guys played pretty well. But I'm ready to go with Philadelphia. Eagles Eagles have the Patriots. This this week. What shapes up to be a very interesting game? That's the latest from the NFL. LemMe jumping quickly. The college football were a team that no one is talking about. But it's probably the most important team in the country. This year is Auburn. They are unlikely to make the playoffs because they have two losses but they will have an enormous impact on who does remember August thirty first. They beat Oregon on the last play to hand Oregon their only loss of the season. This Saturday they will play number four Georgia which controls its own playoff destiny. We would assume. According to our football power index Saturday's game name is Georgia's toughest of the year. The only one not favored in and then. Of course there's the iron bowl coming up after that. So is it possible that it has auburn. That will wind up changing absolutely everything we will start their edition of Scotch. Oh we're often. We will take a tweet from from one of you guys who wants to question. Today's tweet comes from me. This that's my tweet from yesterday. I want you to answer this question if Georgia Beats Lsu and the big ten champion is not unbeaten. It is not impossible. Three three most deserving for three or four months deserving teams will come from the SEC. Were the committee do it here. Is the problem Greenie the logic to put both Georgia Georgia and Alabama and the college. Football playoffs contradict each other. Georgia would be the most deserving team if they beat Lsu and you in the in the championship assume they beat Auburn this weekend. But the Alabama and you're not putting in the most deserving greenie you're putting in the most talented and they're not even putting the most talented team. You're putting in the team with the most talented individuals so for that reason it doesn't get I hear what you're saying but the committee has proven it doesn't have to be consistent true. They can make their decisions. It's based on anything. They think they've shown you that Alabama without a decent win on schedule now is number five Baylor who has like the third best strength of record. The whole country is outside of the top ten. They're kind of doing whatever they see fit. And if they decide that those three teams three of the four best. I wouldn't put it past them to do it. I wouldn't one put it past them but Greenie the uproar that would exist. There's already a looming uproar between the SEC bias. And I now totally get it. I totally understand it. It can't happen because you're disrespecting teams that have actually won meaningful games like Minnesota. If you WANNA get a taste of some of that uproar just look at my mentions after I treat people losing their mind all right. Let me get to the next one. Baylor and Minnesota are currently undefeated. If they both run the table. Is there any way. They both get left out. No if they both run the table obviously they will both be in but it would be the best and worst thing to happen to college football. Can anybody in the nation really outside of Baylor in Minnesota fans named the starting quarterbacks for either of those two teams the answer's no whereas everybody knows to it Jalen hurts Jake frahm Jacobson so no if they run the table with your power five team that runs a table. You have to make it in the playoff but it would be bad because it's a small fan base but it would be great greenie because you'd have representation from every conference and lastly it would be great because it means the Games actually means something. It's it's fun to play it out could do. I have a second just to play this out. Does do the Man Georgia Beats Beats. Lsu Yup in the SEC championship game. Clemson goes unbeaten. So they're not getting left out. Of course you're going to put in Minnesota you're GONNA put in Baylor means you'll be putting in one of Lsu Georgia which which of those two goes if Georgia Beats Lsu Lsu loses that SEC championship game and gets left out of the playoff now now. Let's head of Georgia. Who would've don't just beat them for the SEC? Yes because you've got to say who's the better team all right. I've got one more for you here. We've talked a lot this week about some of the remaining leverage games on the schedule. But there's one you've picked out that he's a sneaky big game this weekend. It is microscopic gigantic more than sneaky. BIG CLA is playing Utah four and five Ucla if they beat eight and one Utah all of a sudden not only are they going to be five and five hundred leading the pack twelve self. Here's the gigantic portion of it. This is the biggest game of the weekend because IF UCLA LA beat Utah Oregon's College Football playoff hopes across because they would not be able to beat a team with a winning record. Utah's College football playoffs. Copes across the entire PAC twelve football playoff off out the window. That's the game the outstanding no if Ucla wins this weekend probably berries the entire conference. Yes as far as the College Football playoff is concerned all right tip off your weekend weather next. NBA Friday doubleheader. It's a good one. They got Donovan. Mitchell leading the jazz against Jami rant and the Grizz at eight eastern tomorrow and Campbell and the Celtics. They're great. They begin a West Coast Road trip against the warriors our coverage begins with NBA countdown seven eastern on ESPN and you can watch it all on the ESPN APP. Meanwhile Colin Kaepernick will will have an audience at his workout. Saturday Stephen a Smith. We'll tell you why he's optimistic as I take follows us in six minutes here on. ESPN get up is brought to you by sonic enjoy a patty melt for three ninety nine. All right back to where we began the show. This morning it's really the first playoff game tonight. Pittsburgh in Cleveland of the winter has life. The loser's probably Dundee would who you got to steal it. I think Mike Tomlin you. We know has to be mentioned among the coach coach. Candidates with what he's done with the Pittsburgh steelers been amazed. Nick de defenses outstanding with the steelers. I'm going with them. That front has been fantastic ethic Minka fitzpatrick been making plays in the back and and I have no faith and the browns offense to be able to produce in the red zone. Then you've got the studios have had the Brown's number for forever and I don't think that changes tonight too much palm meeting if this Patrick because the Bollock steelers Mike Tomlin. I'm GonNa take the browns and I'll tell you why shefty you gave us. The static came from our French. Trey Wingo this morning right if they lose tonight. Then there's a very good wind up flying out tomorrow right. They fired six. Six straight coaches coming off of steeler loss correct steeler losses games against the steelers have been detrimental to the future of Brown's coaches so we'll see Freddie Kitchens hoping we'll see tomorrow at the wall.

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Hour 1: Will Mahomes Play?

"Good morning it is time to get out with mister mahomes. Looks like he'll play. But one of our crew has the formula for slowing him down in the biggest game of the year. Then the legend ted to head why vici- showdown of rogers versus brady will look nothing like the last time they met three months ago. There's a new boss in philly. What exactly this mean for the player under the most pressure in the entire. Nfl answers to those and other questions as we get out with. You want football friday. Starting right now greedy here from our studios in new york city and we are ready to go take a look at the squad on his championship weekend. As we see the four legendary quarterbacks or soon to be legends and of course the legendary analysts are here as well. Nico is ready kimberly. Martin ryan clark and bart scott will be along as well as the nfl's final four is forty eight hours away. We begin in the afc with the bills and the cheese. Kansas city the second franchise to host a conference championship in three straight seasons. The other was the eagles nearly two thousand. Both teams coached by andy reid. These two met in week six in buffalo kansas city. Coming out with a twenty six seventeen win josh allen. Patrick mahomes h throwing a pair of touchdowns in speaking of homes. The of course remained in the nfl's concussion protocol but took the majority of the snaps in practice yesterday despite being listed as a limited participant. Here's this coach. Andy reid penalty good out there. He did a nice job when what he was doing. It and He's moving around while he feels Feels good so it's just important that we follow the protocol and that's what we're doing. Draft arlington is covering the afc championship us. And he gets up early with us today. One more let's for the fans who are following this. What exactly needs to happen between now and then to confirm them. Homes is eligible to play on sunday. Greeny you heard. Andy reid basically say that he feels great about where patrick mahomes is at and basically if you think about the nfl concussion protocol. There's five stages to that mahomes. Basically between four and five right now anticipate he'll probably get cleared by the chiefs trainer today. Then the big question is simply the independent neurological examiner. Mahomes can say and he does say that he can feel as good as he wants but not until that independent examiner says that he's back to baseline fully capable of full-contact. Ken mahomes step back on the field in a game situation. We do anticipate that will happen. The chiefs are planning for it to happen But not until that. Examiner says the k. Well we know that moms is back on the field so the chiefs are planning for it and that makes sense given all the uncertainty. They'll how're the bills planning for this weekend. Chat name has not been mentioned in the bills facility. And that's not because they are offended by chat henny they simply are not preparing for him at all greedy. They know that this is the patrick. Mahomes show They are preparing as such just as the chiefs are so as much as we all understand the importance of getting through the concussion protocol. Greenie i think we all know what's coming next. I think that's exactly right up before the sun is my man. jeff darlington. Well done thank you. Jeff let me bring the crew in here and let's start talking about this game. Who got kimberly again. Inko and rc. And rob let me start with you. Let's put the concussion piece of this out of the question. We also was a foot that he's dealing with. It's officially a foot. We believe it is one way or another. We saw him limping in the afc championship. Game before this against cleveland. So how do you anticipate the bills. Defending mahomes this weekend. Well you can't be scared. That's for sure so. The buffalo bills are going to have to get after patrick mahomes when i say that breaking the pocket making them uncomfortable in the pocket. When you have turf toe or toe injury. I know i have had a turf toe injury. It is one of the most painful things that that you try to deal with during the game. If it's just re-aggravating aggravated on one plate then it really could affect you. So we all know. Patrick mahomes is great. Throwing on the run running for first downs. But when you have a couple of injuries that you're thinking about it could slow down and could limit. Maybe some of andy reed's plays that. He wants to call. Because you don't want to put them in harm's way. I mean look. You just had a concussion. If he goes out there and he has one more day they're going to pull them from their biggest game of the season this year for them. So they're going to have to protect. Patrick mahomes make sure he doesn't hurt himself. Trying to run for first downs. Now it's an interesting dynamic in this game. Are i'll put it as simply as i can. How much of an impact on the afc championship. Do you expect these injuries to have i. Don't they have a big effect. And listen and rob said. Don't be scared. Don't have fear man. You better be scared. You better have patrick mahomes. You've seen as scared raccoon. They fierce as hell. That's how they need. They need to get after them. They need to make him move. Get him off of his spot. But patrick mahomes is not lamar jackson right. He's not michael vick. You don't go into a game and say you know what patrick mahomes mobility is. What scares us the most now. He does get outside of the pocket. He does create second play opportunities. But it's about his arm. It's about his understanding of the offense. It seemed even on that toe very early in the game. He was able to do that. And as far as the concussions go. you know what. Don't call speed option eric enemy. Don't call speed option. Andy reid you do it like twice every three weeks anyway. So it's not necessarily a big deal as play calling goes if you're the buffalo bills you've done one thing. You have not mentioned chad. Henne his name. You know why. Because if you prepare for patrick mahomes and you get shed. You're actually overprepared. Don't trip but the one thing you better be prepared to do is play the best. Patrick mahomes a healthy. Patrick mahomes and that patrick mahomes that beat you and i know so. Mcdermott and leslie fraser. Have their team ready for. That came really wants the sense. You're getting from people you talked to around the league leading up. Everybody expects patrick mahomes play. I mean it again with. We've got wait for him to clear it officially but you know the bills understand that. This is a huge challenge. You know their. It's possible that some of these guys walk into arrowhead stadium. You're about to face the super bowl. Defending champions. There could be a moment. Like is the moment too big for them. But when you talk to the bills organization you talked to. People like coaches and players. They say they're not worried at all. You know why because they have confidence in josh allen. He's the guy that everything about this team feeds off of him. He's the guy that makes us team go and that lost to last year in the wild card game. That was the turning point for him. He was not the only person to blame for that loss to houston however he went into this offseason knowing. I've got a up. I've got to be the leader. And the addition of stefan digs makes his team extremely explosive. Other guys are other guys are shown out as well so the bills. They feel good. Whether it's patch mahomes or somebody else. I get it very quickly. And we'll have more time to talk about josh allen. Is we go see but just looking through some numbers. Hearing the bills. Running backs have a combined. Total of nine thousand nine hundred carries in their two playoff games. That's not the formula to kansas city. Is it no. It's not the formula we look at teams beat the kansas city chiefs. They rushed for thirty five times for thirty five carries over one hundred and sixty yards. And you look in that second. Half when cleveland started to move the ball they were thinking about the run. They were sticking to the run. Josh allen is going to have to be important to this game listen during the season. It was about moss in singletary. Moss got hurt. he's injured. Now we're going to have to see josh allen. Carry some of the load. And that's on called quarterback runs and scrambles. He is the focal point of this office. He is the guy that drives. the ferrari. Debt is the buffalo bills but he needs to be healthy and so in that there have to be careful so timely called ruins josh allen. Been very intelligent or run pass options and him using his downfield threats to get extra yards. We'll be huge in this game. All right so that's the story with the afc championship game. That's the later game on sunday now to the early game in that of course is the nfc packers hosting the championship game. For the first time. Since two thousand seven day in which they lost to the giants in overtime that turned out to be brett. Farve game it was the the tom coughlin's face game as we always referred to here but meanwhile aaron rodgers playing his french championship game. He's one in three in previous efforts. Only ken stabler donovan. Mcnabb and tom brady have lost more conference championship games with four apiece and of course it's brady starting his fourteenth conference championship game on sunday. Twice as many as the next closest starting quarterback which would be joe montana with seven so brady has sort of put that into an entirely different stratosphere. But let's talk about the weather lambofield. I guess it could be colder. This is the home of the ice bowl game in nfl history. It's not going to be anything like that. You see feel like twenty four degrees nine mile an hour winds not too bad chances snow flurries so it should be fun to watch but the question is how much of an impact does it have on the game. So we'll start with you. Tom brady we talk about him at age. Forty three and all the rest of that gotta go up there and play in the cold. Is that factor in this game. No bre no. I don't know why we were trying to make me like it's a factor you know. It was a factor for drew. Brees right that's the guy. We were scared that had to go to lambo because drew head injuries. Drew didn't have the arm strip. Tom brady is not tripping on this. You tell me you watch tom. Brady play this year and say he can't cut the ball through the win or he kicked off football in the cold and guys. We met him at the rule game. It was snowing. Dum played in new england forever. And i know we're gonna say well. They practice in tampa. I'm from new orleans. I'm from the ino. It is seventy degrees down here right now. Guess what when. They kicked it off the afc championship two times and it felt like it was below zero temperatures. I wasn't tripping. I was smashing people mouth. And so debbie whites not gonna care linford nets not gonna care there from the. We caught in davis who's went to auburn. He's not gonna care and tom brady for sure. Ain't gonna care dude played in fourteen to these and for most of those opportunities. He was in new england. He is not tripping on this cold. He's going to make sure this team is focused and they run the ball now. They play defense now. That travels in cold and hot in sleet snow and rain. It doesn't matter so rob's going to get on here and tell you about how solve dvd's are in folks. The head coach troy when it was cold. Did not matter little quick secret. I think that rob guitar with he's about to say set ryan and our show meeting today car little guys go ahead go. I know you had to. I had the hand warmer on august. Sixteen hand warmers inside thing. anybody heaters. Listen tom brady is going to be fine. I agree with you. Tom brady is gonna be fine. He's played in cold weather. But it's the other guys that haven't played in cold weather. And i can tell you back. December thirtieth twenty twelve. We played the miami dolphins at home. And guess what. It was about fifteen degrees. It was really cold before the first series of the game. there was the offensive. Lineman were huddling together like a group of penguins and artika and they would not come out of that whole hands. They had their hands in their in their pants and they were freezing. And i looked at looked at the rest of the team on defense. I said look. These dudes is over and guess what we won that game. Twenty eight to zero. They didn't score a point because it was that cold so let get maximum but guess what the other guys on the team. It takes a team to win a football game so cold weather. Yeah can affect a lot of things that kicking game the passing game if it's windy receivers bouncing the ball. Their hands volleyball in the ball. Up in the air for interception. We've seen it time. In and timeout guys can be affected by the cold weather. Especially when you're from a southern state and you get off that plane i you off that plane. The first thing you say to yourself is man. That wind is cutting through me. It's you cannot simulate. You cannot simulate cold weather in tampa the palm trees. You can go inside the bubble. Put the ac down to sixty degrees. It is not thirty. Two degrees in the bubble down at tampa. So they're gonna have to deal with whether and they cannot. This is directly bill ballot. Check and he's told us before we're not having a team meeting at the turbine heaters. There's not gonna be team meeting by. Everybody is going to be cold. Which is stuff on. Go out there play football. And if they could do that they have a chance. This is your game. Believe covering it this weekend. What's your perspective. Dolphins are sitting at home. Like why is rob calling us out on. I'm covering this game. So i'm gonna let you know right now. It will affect me when i'm doing. My face freezes okay. areas is a worried about it. Aaron does not worried about it. He mentioned the wind is the only factor that could affect the game but with nine miles per hour right now. I don't see it being an issue. They've got too much at stake for these guys to let weather bother them. I'm not a great graphic kudos to whoever put our graphics kimberly martin cold weather affect me of one thing for certain it is going to act the people working the game from the side. Okay so we have all of those other. Nfl f. l. news from yesterday the philadelphia eagles have confirmed to our sal paolantonio that they have hired colts offensive coordinator knicks serianni to be their next head coach coming in to an interesting situation of course with carson wentz and all that has gone on their serianni. Who is he well. He has sixteen years of coaching experience. The last eleven of them in the nfl worked under romeo cornell. Todd haley mike mccoy anthony. Lynn is an offensive coach with the chargers and the chiefs as well as former eagles offensive coordinator frank reich with the colts and so we bring the group in here is a lot to unpack from this and bart scott. I gets up with us here. This morning kimberly will start with you. How did the eagles arrive. What are we hearing. How do they arrive at nick. Serianni i think. The eagles made the choice. Between doug. Peterson carson wentz so you understand that carson wentz they see him as the guy that we've got we've got to rally around carson. Make him feel good. They wanna quarterback driven and they wanted to bring in a guy who could who. I don't wanna use the word rehabilitate because it's a but fix carson. Whatever was not working whether it was. That peterson wentz relationship or something within carson fixed. That and i think two words that you mentioned already greenie frank reich the fact that franken carson wentz had a great relationship when he was the oc in philly. nelson envy. You get frank reich so here you get a guy who was on his staff. Someone people even. And i think from what i've heard nick's serianni is a guy that players people say players will love to play for. He knows how to evaluate talent. So time will tell though if they can put it together in philly. I think though that makes perfect sense it is a wentz driven move. You chose him in the power struggle. You've got to do everything you can to make it work with him. So there's that side of the story and we certainly wish nick serianni well and good luck but it certainly did once again. Bring up a lot of people questioning and wondering about the nfl's hiring practices and the problems of just no minority coaches continuing to get hired in the name. Eric be enemy. Will continuously come up when that happens the enemy the offensive coordinator in kansas city addressed this a little bit yesterday. Here's what he said his thing. It's always good to be mentioned in in in have an opportunity to pursue your dreams and obviously yes. I do want to be a head coach. But when it's all said and done with my job is to make sure everything that we're doing right now. It's not to take away from the goals that we're trying to accomplish the only thing that matters today we got better my own personal business when all. Let's time to take care of it. So that will take care of itself. What he said. It doesn't seem to be taken care of itself at the rate that a lot of people would like to see at bart scott. What is your perspective on this. I mean it's discouraging. Greenie once again. We see an african american qualified candidate. gift slighted and i don't know we'll these stories about interview. Well that's a joke. I mean because we talked to anybody that's ever talked to him or ever interviewed him. He's a guy that understands and knows how to talk to. The media knows how to say the right things he that was very gracious him right there. I'm just tired green if every time we look up. And it's a it's a name that nobody's ever heard of you don't have to google. You know white coach from somewhere and ill. It's like the good old boys club right taking care of their own and they're not giving guys the opportunity. I think it's a joke in it. I think it's making a mockery of the rooney rule. I mean not only is arab enemy a qualified candidate. You got todd bowles. We never even hear barra leverage name mentioned and look what he's been able to do. He had jameis winston. Yes jameson home. Refer ws. I'll refer wins that that james was a that offense and then the next year know tom. Brady's effective as well like he's not even mentioned and not only is that he's got he's got blood in the soil or whatever you wanna say. Because he's played in his league played at high level. He wasn't michael. Vick lamar jackson outta pocket unconventional type of quarterback. He's a guy that had the think because he didn't have the physical attributes to play the game with athleticism. He was got had to think the games. Are you telling me that he's good enough to be the coordinator but he's not good enough to be even mentioned in the in the quarterback or in the head coaching ram. Like it's a joke. I mean last year we heard gioja had never heard of got a golden. We've gotta find him. I didn't even know. Dan campbell as was even still in the piper today. You're doing a wrestler. Promo he decide to be. Ceo your organization slap in the face of all detroit. Lions fan my opinion. Because i'm from there. We're going to play that sound for you a little bit later today. Go ahead yeah. I used to be upset about it. But i actually talked to writing morris last week and i apologize to him and i told him that i hate with this league have done has done to minority and african american coaches. And he said oh. It's no problem. He's like we knew what it was. He said i knew. I had to be undefeated. I knew i had to try to get this team into the playoffs. In order to keep this job and so it seems like the minority coaches with the black coaches even listening to aired enemy. They have come to the conclusion that they understand their fight. And it's usually us that. Get upset but i want you to think about this when we see surani get a job or it's dan campbell or staley and you start to see some of these names. They get meyer from college. You think about all the criteria. What the things that are high right. Obviously andy reid assistance. And andy reid offensive. Coordinators will hot. Because we had peterson we have met nagy now. Airbnb gets there and it's something different. He doesn't call plays okay. Let's move the goalposts for him. And then now you're the philadelphia eagles and you're looking for a coach to get your job in you guys. Like malcolm jenkins they come out and endorse. Do staley also boston scott guy train. That says that duce staley will be the person for the job any overlook him and they go higher frank right junior junior. And so what. We're starting to see is that they can go deep into the pipeline to hire these white head coaches find white. Hey coaches who. We've never heard of who've never coordinated who've never called plays and that's okay but when we talk about the the biggest problem. Is this every time we talk about a job. We've mentioned one african american coach. We mentioned one. Glad kate coach. And that's eric. But they could dig deep enough to find seven white coaches to hire before they hire the one name that we have to mention constantly because we feel like its mainstream enough for people to know. That's an issue. I will leave it there for the moment but certainly this is an issue that going away there was one vacancy left right now in the nfl. Continue much coming on this football friday here in new york jets have a new head coach and he had a lot of nice things to say about sam darnold but it's what he didn't say that's getting a lot of attention. You will hear that. Plus you've had enough of that excuse my language. That's the guy we were just talking about the lions new head coach and he was just getting warmed up. Wait till you hear this. It's on the way on. Espn we want the best of both worlds. We want a hybrid a smarter. 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It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com. We are back on. Get up and he would go. Bart scott hembo is calling you out. Matt lafleur is made the conference championship game. Each of his first two seasons as head coach. Who was the last coach to do that. But i'll tell you what greenie the obvious answer is rex ryan because he did it with me and maybe me thinking i won't pick it. I'm sure maybe it's been somebody else. Lum's gonna stick with Rex ryan final. Asir greening bar. He got us both. That was my guess and it was your guests. And that's hannah was so sneaky. It has happened since. Jim harbaugh did it with the forty niners in twenty eleven and twenty two hembo said. That's exactly what i think. Part is going to do. He's gonna guess. Rex ryan if it makes you feel better but soda died so we both got it wrong. Meanwhile as we continue to look ahead to this weekend or the chiefs defense or step on who you got. I'm going to step on days green. I think he's finally kind of got to that point where his mind his body meeting i know in the first matchup went from forty six yards. But i think josh allens much better quarterback now they'll do something like get him in the slot be able to move them around. We won't be able to them. This is a big game in big time. Players may time plays in big games instead digs is a big come. He put up big numbers last week. As well on the bucks defense or davante adams who you got taping. I'm taking a tampa bay buccaneers. But not because i feel like they'll match up great with them which they did in the first game. But i believe that todd bowles is showing us that he learns from early on mistakes. Any saw him try to play one on one with tyreek hill. He did some other things early. On in the season he will focus on davante adams. He will make aaron rodgers go somewhere. Different and aaron rodgers is good at that. So i'm taking the bucks defense or adams and then name. I'm not even sure why. I'm asking you this but tom brady. Aaron rodgers law. I mean come on. You know. I'm going with my god tv nine four nine four and conference championships. Are you kidding me. He has more wins in conference. Championships than any quarterback has appearances. So come on. I gotta go with my guy. Tom brady he's gonna carve up three bay. I gotta go with tb. I gotta keep my free t shirts come in the mail all the way the goat baby that one that one feels like we could have given into someone else in order to get a little more objective of enhancer more. We come on a new head coach and introduced yesterday in the nfl. We were talking about this. Let's talk about the coaches themselves. One of them is brandon. Staley used the head coach of the los angeles chargers. He was the rams defensive coordinator for one season. The rams ranked first in total defense and in scoring defense robert sala officially introduced as the new coach of the jets. The niners defense ranked in the top ten in total defense and third down percentage. He's been there d- coordinator. Since two thousand seventeen and dan campbell introduces the new coach of the lions. He played ten years in the national football league at his news. Conference yesterday. campbell. Had a whole lot to say it had a lot of people wondering. I'm sorry what listen to this is going to be built on. We're gonna kick in the teeth all right and when you punch us back. We're going to smile at you and when you knock us down we're going to get up and on the way up we're going to buy to kneecap off all right and we're going to stand up and then it's going to take two more shots to knock down all right on the way up we're gonna take your other kneecap and we're gonna get up and then it's gonna take three shots gets down and when we do we're gonna take another out of you before before long we're going to be the last one standing. Oh i see so. His plan is to have a tough football game. As opposed to all the other coaches out there who want their guys not to be like that. Go ahead ryan. Clark played with dan campbell. You were telling me. Tell us about things like this. Is actually who dan campbell is. When i play with dan campbell. I was a young. And he was a blocking tight. In for the new york giants. We've also had. Jeremy shockey jeremy shockey. Did all the pretty stuff at dan. campbell was. Actually they do listen. I went to catholic school and that was the minority at that catholic school when i went to schools on. I mean to make this ratio. But i went to school. Why guys like that. And i went to lsu and i went to tiger land. You know if some people poured them up a little bit. There were guys who that way. That's who dan campbell is. Dan campbell is expressing himself in a way that he knows how to express themselves in the familiar. Reality that he finds toughness. Now when you're watching this and you think back to maybe adam gazes first press conference that you listen to dan campbell's press conference and didn't on the same day you eric be enemy talk. You go okay. This guy doesn't interview. Will this guy got the detroit lions job and you wonder how that happens because you know what maybe to somebody biting off kneecaps and taking honks out and kicking teeth fails familiar. I know a lot of people who vets familiar to and dan. Campbell wants to have a football team. This is the way too. He's expressed it. He's been interim head coach before assistant head coach in new orleans. Clearly they wanted to give him the job. So let's go take honks out of people. Yeah and again. These are two hundred percent. Hear what you're saying from a separate standpoint. I'm just thinking to myself rob anchorage. If that's what you're selling. Every football team is tough. If there's one thing i've learned being around you guys entire adult life. Every football player is tough. You don't need the coach talking about biting kneecaps. What did you think of that yesterday. We'll the the problem is the problem. The problem comes to be in twenty twenty one when you have a draft pick from california. He drives to detroit and his tesla. And you ask them the rhonda. He's going to respond and say. I'm a vegan cats so that is the problem with the modern athlete in the these young athletes. Today that older who tough guy run through break glass hit that guy. Full speed. Bite his kneecaps. We're gonna be tough every team. Look we've been playing football for a long time. I've heard the tough guy. The crazy rostov and at times that just gets old a coach that could come in that could relate to what a young athlete is going through in right now. A young athlete comes in there. Saying what's my social media account followings in in my marketing ability right now. They're trying to sell t shirts on social media and they're trying to be pro bowlers get paid and they don't wanna eat kneecaps. I don't wanna bowl an caps either. Because it's made it. Well it is it is fascinating again. The whole all gas no break thing as opposed to all the other teams who are gonna be all break. No gas that that stuff doesn't go very well. That was robert. Sala the coach of the jets. Who said that. He also said this. About the team's quarterback sam darnold. There's a lot of things that we have to do moving forward. You know we're just getting the staff into the building. So there's so many things that we have to do from an evaluation standpoint with regards to the entire roster and not just a quarterback To give you that that answer it now be a bit premature all right. so kimberly. Mark used to cover the jets. You know them. Well and bart scott. You're still around them all the time. Kimberly i'll start with you. He's not saying anything about darnold. And i guess that makes sense. What is your sense of where that will go. When i heard that my first thought was sam darnold should not renew his lease inform park. He just shouldn't because the fact that the head coach. And i'm not blaming salad for being because you know what anyone would because what you have is a new head coach who in his first introductory press conference inherited team. That is missing a lot of pieces. And you don't have a short answer quarterback we've seen three years of bad football play from sam darnold. It wasn't just all on him. A lot of it was but at the same time. look at the other. Qb's who were in his draft class. You've seen them then take steps in the right direction. You haven't seen sam progress now. I understand i understand. The jets have a lot of holes in keeping. Sam allows you to keep draft picks as opposed to going into the shawn watson route. But if salad salad shouldn't commits him at all. What's your center. This is still around those guys practically every day. I mean that's exactly what you want your ceo to say right. I mean you want him to be non-committal you want him to answer. The question doesn't seem like he's ducking questions from the new york media. But you just don't want him to embarrass you on day. One adam gates embarrassed organization with the i beams and all that stuff the fact that he didn't become a mean. I tell you what that is. A plus i mean. There's a win but you. You're looking at what what what he's inherited. He's inheriting a young football team. What's like what he inherited in san francisco a team. That wasn't ready to compete. They really drafted well. And they took the next step. And he's got a way all his often him in joe judge and there's been reports that woody johnson is coming back and he's going to get right back to the mix so you have to consider all of that so you can't be committed until you know what the plan is going forward and you know that until you break down the film mike. The floor is going to have to look and say hey. Can he be jimmy. G. are better. Because if he's jimmy jere better. We took jimmy g. to the championship was around him with the weapons to be successful. We'll see again. Those are all decisions that will be made. We have much more football on this football friday coming but right now game in the night from the nba and it was a good one and maybe a free a preview of the nba finals. Lebron and the lakers taking on the honest and the bucks. Pick it up in the first quarter and just watch. John is here working. Anthony davis gives him room and jaanus makes him pay knocking down. He had twenty-five night later in the first how about yawn is playing defense. Lebron to the basket. Yana says no way bucks. Four after one. Watch janos getting it done on the defensive side. The fourth we go good game lakers up five kyle. Coups month with the ball for the lakers. For lebron who spots it up and not sit down. The browns scored. Thirty four lakers up eight under five minutes ago. It's the honest working inside little turnaround action. Four minutes left bucks within seven next box possession. Take a look at this and you tell me how this is not a walk. One to boom. You had this up in good. They don't call it. S not walk buck. Make a four point game with a made. Free throw under three. To play lakers are up to good ball movement k. c. p. in the corner three he was seven of paint from three point. Range on the night lakers by five. And then lebron looking for a dagger up by five final minute of the game spots up and knocks it down again. Thirty four eight assists six boards for lebron janas at twenty five points and twelve boards but a career high nine hours and the lakers come away with the win. And here's our guy tim legler. Who's here to break it down. I have two questions for you this morning. Legs let just start with. These are the lakers at this point just in a league of their own as far as how good they are and how good anybody else is. Yeah they occupy shelf unto themselves. There's no question about it because there are just too deep for most teams and they also have great balance in what they do greenie because they can attack you inside and in the post and they seem to win all those individual battles and i thought that's the way they started out the game against the box milwaukee decided to play. Anthony davis straight up in a post he went to work on them and scored at will and then lebron james beat him up pretty bad for the perimeter and then that final component. That you wondered about this lakers team. Would they get enough role playing support. Three point shooting. Well they certainly got it last night and this may sound nuts because it's a one possession game with two minutes to go. The game wasn't that close. I just never felt. I watched every second of the game. And i never felt at any point that the milwaukee bucks are really in the game and it was a two point game with three minutes to go. That's how easy the lakers made it look at times. And so that's why right now because of their depth and because of their balance in the ways they can beat you offensively. They occupy a shelf into themselves. And they're clearly the front runner to win a title. All right so that's one side and then on the other side. What do we say coming out of last night about the two time defending mvp on us a lot of the same things. He runs into the same issues sometimes because he lacks finesse that the situation requires at five and i understand he plays hardy also poses willing to but commits four offensive thousand game. Because he's got one way he wants to beat you. And that's downhill with force. And sometimes if a team can get committed bodies in front of a craze prompts the hit seven turnovers in the first half three nine over for the games and again four of those on offense thousand seat late. Some of the issues with his shooting reared itself again. You see the airball from eighteen feet. He also had a really ill-advised three point shot Early in the shot clock that just completely played into the hands of the lakers and what they wanted to do and again went to the line and missed a couple of free throws in an important situation so we know how dominant he can be in the way. He fills up a stat. Sheet is two time for a reason and affects both ends of the floor but the problem with this team surfaces every time you seem either in a tough playoff series or against the top component. That's got a good defensive game plan. His inability to be able to use the nest. Shoot over the top shoot. A mid range shot make plays off the dribble for other people. That's where he really struggles. And the lakers allowed him to use that force against himself. Really that game. I think he wanted a little bit too much. And the lakers had plenty of bodies in that lane waiting for him. And it's still the big question mark for the walk you boxed can they break through if they don't have that guy that could beat you from anywhere on the floor in a in a critical moment so they take on the nets. This week and the lakers and away we go legs. Thanks a million for getting up early with us here today. We've got good basketball coming your way tonight. Our friday nba doubleheader kicks off with camp down at seven eastern followed by the celtics and the sixers going head to head and then we will have the nuggets and the sun's coming your way after that a good doubleheader nba action. Tonight on espn coming up. It is the story of the off season. i'll analysts will tell you the best landing spot for shawn watson in twenty twenty one and they just weighed in saturday night if mcgregor emporia in the next hour dana white will join us live talking about the enormous fight from fight island tomorrow and it's coming up this up on espn. Oh i'm here to have some fun. My hopes up telling me not to get my hopes up. That's what i'm saying. Is dan of all people in america. I thought you would know in zone use no longer. I'm devastated about if bruce areas is still a shot at bill belichick is high. Why in the world is the human element over sudden something. We want to preserve in sports. How long is it. You wanna get rid of it for the players to drop a pass to. Why don't we replaced him. With a freaking robot. I would like all mr graziano comment stricken from the real. He's right now would acknowledge that he's wrong. So by all means go ahead vic his third one on one up with all my money on his he had better hair. You got them grits going on down there with. I'm raising little piece over here. Three pay kept pulling together. Lots of fun here this week and thank you for being along for the ride. Meanwhile let's talk about where the shawn watson would fit best next season for what would be the best move for him. Kimberly martin. I'll start with you. What's the best fit for deshaun. Greenie will break your heart. But it's the forty niners. Is there a more creative friendly coach. Then kyle shanahan. Is there a team. That's more loaded. On both sides of the ball than the forty niners does shawn literally was intact. It was in houston trying to do it all by himself. You know who won't waste the year of his time. The forty niners. That would be scary if he wanted our same question. What's the best bet. I want him to go to chicago. I wanted to go to this team that we've been saying as a quarterback a wage chicago needs to try to get the shawn watson either. Try to keep allen. Robinson keep that intact had them attacking let them know that when they play great defense they can win football games that holding the saints to twenty one points won't get you beat by double digits. Go get the shawn watson. Yes that would be the best thing they've done since lachmann bart how about you. What's the best fit your jeff because it has to be mutually beneficial for both organizations so the jets can offer the best package. And i think the sound watson if he likes alan robson. Guess what the jets. The quality in salary cap space and go get him if he wants to bring trent williams over here from san francisco what he can come over with him and okay. The jets aren't san francisco but the next big thing is mike before the fact that he can bring that same system and be able to allow decide watson. Play in that same quarterback really bad aspects. Hickory he read. James harden the stimulus. Okay i'm gonna say everyone. Who stop interrupting bart scott. Because what he is saying constitutes. The best thing that has happened to me is a fan in the last ten years literally. Just these are the best thing that ever happened to me in the last ten years with kimberly martin. I'll come to you because adam schefter sitting. well. I was about to say in the same spot. You're sitting probably not but on my screen the same place and and the point is that you said yesterday. Get your hopes up. And as we all know. Shefty doesn't just say things willy nilly so that suggested to me that that the new york jets of bart scott could practically be crossed off of this list. What are you hearing. Greenie would you. Would you wanna come here. No fence to you embark but the draft picks that you're going to need to get him. Does you need to use to bolster this roster. This is a team that has nothing but in a very long time they are not just a. Qb away although. The sean is a phenomenal quarterback but they need other pieces and the fact fit. I can't even imagine having this conversation about the jets. Actually being a place that does shawn should go to because if you take emotion out of it guys fart greenie if you take emotion out of it it doesn't make it's not mutually beneficial because it's not you know what thumping official to shawn watson. Jj watt apologize for for wasting a year of the guy's life. You don't think that'll happen here. I don't do it. Go do in a world where social media seems to decide on every it makes so much sense greenie. You understand that listen. It doesn't take much to turn a football team away. You look at what miami did in one scene. Where brian floor is they have. They have a great left tackle. They have the ability to go out and get assets because they have money where people that can't be protect they can go out. Get zack herbs alan robinson. And trent williams. You think that offense is going to be good enough of course and if silence is as advertised. The defense won't take long once you. Cj moseley back quinton williams the budding star and you can go and get a pass rush on that side of the ball. They have party this. There's not going to take all their draft equity to be able to get pieces. Decide who can offer better packets and put sam darnold within the package. Nobody other than miami he is going to have to. Sean going to have a good deal of say in where he wants up. But obviously the texans will have some control over this as well and i'm thinking if i'm them i'd like to get him out of the conference. If possible which are see is one of the reasons that your pick of the bears just based on being in the nfc alone makes a lot of sense to me and your opinion if they give up is a ton of draft picks with shawn watson and the bears the team to beat in the nfc next year. I don't necessarily know if they're the team to beat. But they're one of the teams that could contend for an nfc championship. And that's what you want to be. I think the shawn watson puts puts them over the offensive home that they've been under. You don't have to develop him. You don't have to work with him. You don't have to necessarily say how make you better. He comes in and makes you a better team right away and we sold build. Laser was able to do down the stretch with mitchell. Trubisky now imagine that. Being the shawn watson i if you're the chicago bears you do all you can to make this happen. And then let this do flourish. Yes after they passed on him several years ago in the draft would be irony waddling. This continues to be the story of the year. Meanwhile we've got a huge weekend in china. Nba friday doubleheader the celtics and the sixers on espn tomorrow afternoon duke and louisville day of hoops across all the networks. And then tomorrow night is the big night. Espn plus you have to fifty seven. Conor mcgregor is back against us foyer. Friday and saturday the big lineup on espn. I'd still got patrick. Mahomes is hurting. One of our crew will tell you how the bills can and should take full advantage of that. Plus it's brady vs rogers with everything hanging in the pallets. Portent is sunday's game to their respective legacies. Those are the questions we've got the answers. Get up on espn.

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Let's just be honest. that was mad. Nagy you just heard talking about nick. Foles who was carted off the field leg and hip injury in the latter stages of monday night football on the vikings nineteen thirteen win. The bears offense was straight up offensive. One hundred forty nine total yards. They had more yards on special teams and they did on offense this after the big story that they were going to be relinquishing playcalling duties from head coach matt nagy to bill laser and his key is mentioned a couple of times this morning the bare certainly not laser focused. Its key cianci and zubin. The vikings suddenly out of nowhere of one three in a row the bears of lost four in a row bears on the by. They got the packers coming out of the bye. Good luck with debt so falls banged trubisky got the shoulder injury and it's going from bad to worse in chicago bad blood not bad to worse but a little bad blood. Here key between andy. Reid is one of the more jovial guys in the nfl. Of course and your guy head coach. Jon gruden it all goes back to this game in week. Five which ended up being. Kansas city's only loss to this point. Yes the raiders. Go into arrowhead and win by the way. They'll meet again this sunday night on sunday night. Football in las vegas. The raiders got on the bus to go home the bus driver as you might expect kansas city guys on the bus ready to drive it. He's the chiefs fan. He's given greeting gruden. Some grief about the wind. And that's because the raiders took a victory lap around the parking lot at arrowhead before departing for the airport. Look we don't have our fans here. Raider fans everywhere. We're going to celebrate by just taking a victory lap around the parking lot. Andy reid was asked his reaction to that yesterday as they prepare to meet again on sunday. Listen they won the game so they can do anything they want. Wanna do They end up winning the game. Those not our style but will ourselves back ready to play. And that's where we're at but you could find a smart aleck bus driver in kansas city. Who made some snide comments when we got on the bus. Maybe that's why we drove around the stadium. Just tick him off. you know. This is ridiculous next question. It's a little petty there by gruden. Don't you think do little fun. You'd think about it dude on there. You just got waxed now you talking trash. So gruden in the raiders. Like you know what i'm gonna make. I'm gonna make you drive around in circles around a parking lot. It look as often randy reading. Jon gruden got great relationship. They the re one of the main reasons that jon gruden is the head coach of the oakland. Raiders is because a guy like andy reid. They work together and green bay. I mean it just. I'm not. I'm not worried about the relationship whatsoever at all. It's it's good for us to talk about 'cause it's funny to me but other than that. What's going to happen on sunday night. That's the key. That's the key what what's going to happen on sunday night because it was me. And i'm andy reid and i got a chance. I'm a put about eighty on them and then take a lap around vegas that that that's how you get back at him. You blow 'em out you at the end of games they say you should kneel down and do all the score now go on to score and then take a lap around the stadium as well go for to go to go for two onside. Kick up big. Just why not. Just do it up at you. The players would love to do it. And i think it's great because this division has been dominated for so long by just a couple of teams for the most part denver. Obviously in the peyton manning days and then they actually won the division with tibo believe tonight and then obviously the chiefs domination since Patrick mahomes arrived on the scene. So i think it's really great to have a team like the raiders with the massive fan base. Be right there right in the thick of everything and makes the division. So much better. So let's ask this question to the raiders. Currently here at six. And three as i mentioned the only team to knock off the chiefs again. They'll meet sunday night in vegas for round number two. We'll see if the Chiefs can escape with the season split. Just a few minutes ago. We were running down all the six and three teams in the afc. There's actually a lot of half dozen in fact and of all the six teams including the ravens who you don't think are a real contender for the super bowl. We reeled off all six. I'm like miami pretty clear. They're not ready yet. The only team in that whole group of six in three teams that you thought was real. Were the raiders and this appears to be the biggest game in the second tenure of jon. Gruden coming up sunday night. What do you think about this raiders. Team right now. You're good football team. I think that they took some lumps early on obviously lost game at tampa bay at home. You know but they took care of business i would. They beat new orleans saints. You start to think about some of the signature. So-called wins that they've had. They've shown that they could continue to go on the road. Although cleveland is not you know a a world beater but the weather was bad. It was so bad that neither team could do much on the office side of the ball. They were able to get out of there with a w. So when you start to look at it it's like okayed. The coaching staff is one of the best. Coaching staff assembled in the national football league. As far as i'm concerned they have talent on the offense assignable. You'd think about the schedule that they're faced with coming up. They got the falcons. The jets the coach to charges in the dolphins. I'll say it again for you. After the chiefs the falcons the jets the coats the charges in the dolphins. Are you scared or anybody or near that. I just named off. No no no inundate big about this for a minute if they beat the chiefs. That's two games now. Right chiefs have two losses against the raiders in the raiders. Run the table with those teams. That i just name if they all of a sudden raider it like they did last year when he was six and four and then finish seven and nine. It's finished seven. Seventy nine in the cheese have a stumble against somebody else along the way before. The end of the season in the raiders are tied at the end of the year with the record in the head to head. They're up now near the leaders of the afc at home field advantage throughout the playoffs. They got the head but remember. They'd obviously still be behind pittsburgh there but the behind pittsburgh but with the winning division. They'll have the second seed which is not the same as it wasn't a pass but again home game plan. A guaranteed home. Game appeals white. Now where do you think or how do you think i think we know mahomes is clearly the. Mvp we have this discussion every week. You haven't been the number one spot at this point you are way more bullish. I think i think it's fair to say all the espn analyst. We talked to everybody talking now. Already know your way. More bullish on derek carr than most people are right. Now you are. What your record says you are but what do you think about car right. Because i don't get caught up in. What grooten says groom throws little breadcrumbs out there and people run with it. He didn't like him look. They got married older. They're gonna they're gonna benching. Who so i don't get caught up in that because clearly you look at his play. What's wrong with his play. How can you argue against stat. You can't argue against a guy. A couple years ago. Prior to getting hurt. When jack del rio was a head coach ago head coach. He had his team getting ready to make nice run in the playoffs. He was probably going to get a major. Mvp he gets hurt and then he still played well when he came back. It's one of those narratives where people put out there. Oh he can't make this thrower every now and then. He misses this. They create this false narrative about the player. That is nothing wrong with ted. Do nothing is thirty. Two teams in the league. How many teams like to have cars their quarterback quite a few. I would imagine considering. I do you. The quarterback has been unique. Think the chicago bears when like to have him. Maybe even the other team they played last night or the other team that they play. I mean so when you start to look at it. He's one of the he's at the back. He's in that seven. Eight nine teen category of top quarterbacks in the nfl would make you a top ten quarterback one other no i wanted to mention. They instituted the nfl giving everybody a week off about thirty years ago and coming out of the by. There's been no coach better than andy. Reid eighteen in three following the by four him. So it shows you not only do they have the weapons but they have the extra week two game plan and coming out. We'll see how they fare keyshawn. J. zubin brought to you. By merrill with merrill guided investing. You have the option to work with an adviser at a low cost minimum get started at merrill edge dot com slash investing goals merrill lynch pierce fenner and smith incorporated both registered broker dealer and investment advisor member. Sipc and moments have the nba's best insider here to talk about a lot of juicy things with the draft tomorrow night. But i gotta ask you this because you've a unique insight into gruden and i've always wanted to ask you this. I've done a couple of interviews with them. But i don't quotas raising. I don't claim to know him. I just talked to during the fired. Football coaches association. Yes when he was on monday night football he was beloved players. Love him super positive. General reviews from viewers. Were really good. Energy brings us back to the booth. Then he comes back to the game. He's got that super bowl championship. And then people just thought he lost his fastball. Immediately right the trade of khalil mack. The poor start the first couple years. How much personal satisfaction just knowing gruden needs to the intricacies quote unquote weird. He said how much personal satisfaction again. It's not finished. They were six and four last year in cratered. They're six and three right now. What's the personal level of satisfaction for gruden. That finally looks like despite all the critics and the naysayers all the doubters that they're turning the corner major satisfaction. There's no question about it. This is you know when he when he was going to say what he took the child but according to him. When i was on the conversation. I was on the phone conversation with him. I would say probably two weeks. Maybe even three weeks before it was announced that he was going to be head. Coach of the raiders. He was still working monday night football. I was like his last two two games or so and we were having a conversation. We talked for about an hour on the phone and we were talking about the makeup of the team and the coaching staff. What the makeup needs to be how he needs to hire assistance that no his system how he needs to find people that already know how to run the west coast system the things that he wants to do the going out and getting maybe some of the older sisters that he had in the past that he may have ruffled feathers. But they can men. Their fences isn't it could get back in good graces together and coach coach. We had a deep conversation which a lot of people don't even realize that understand. Couldn't even understand that me and groom will be on the phone for an hour several years later talking about the way to go about approaching his next tenure as the raiders head coach. So major satisfaction. There's no question about it. I never felt that ten years away from the game was going to have anything negative. He just needed to understand. Nfl is different than when i baptize him. Years ago. About how to treat players individually in. So i think he got that now he understands. You can't beat the same jon. Gruden she was with the tampa bay buccaneers or even a raise the first time around because the players are different now. I tried to give him their early but now he sees it up close and personal so different world. There's no doubt. He tried to load up with veteran players all that sort of stuff. That was the biggest criticism he'd been out of the game but now gruden two point assistant coaches to think about his tom. Cable kirby wilson a row mir nelly you start thinking about some of the staff edgar bennett packer wide receiver coach packer longtime running back. Start thinking about that. Staff in assembly rich for saatchi special teams coordinator was special teams coordinator in tampa longtime cowboy. And you start putting your staff together. It's all about the staff with these coaches to point to those guys were actually. Nfl head coach is all about delegation. We're all about the nba and at last voice you heard was the nba's best insider. He's working furiously. We got the draft tomorrow. Free agency a couple of days after that the season a little over a month after that. Wo- joins us this morning on the shell pennzoil performance line. We're going to mention a very special project. That adrian has been working on on the greek freak in just a little bit. If you're a netflix guy. Disney plus guy in love binging stuff on tv love to binge this with your ears on the podcast more on that in just a second hang tight for all those janas fans first things first adrian. Let's get right to the news here. James harden situation turning down a fifty million dollar a year deal which would made in the league's first fifty million dollar a year player dissension with the rockets interest in the nets. What can you tell us zubin. A james harden did turn down an extension two years one hundred and three million dollars. You said would have made him the league's first fifty million dollar a year player. I think i think only soccer players in the world have reached that salary but that made it pretty clear to the rockets that he was serious about wanting to go to brooklyn right now. There's not a pathway with the nets there has been contact. I'm told between the nets and rockets. But there's been no real discussions on a trade the rockets because harden has at least two years left on his contract. He's not in a walk year. You know they have some time on their side to try to rehabilitate the relationship here. Try to get them back on board They're certainly not in a rush to move him. But i think they're willing to listen. Teams want to register offers and offers. That would be really significant. Whether that's draft picks all star level young players. You know those are the kind of parts that would ultimately get a deal done for james harden for now the rockets are no rush to move him and are they have shown really no inclination to start negotiating with the nets woes. Seems like hard and wants out though he does not want to. Rebuild does not want to be a part of the rockets moving forward. And let's just assume that it is the nets they get on the phone later today. They figure out how to get a deal. Done kyri irving and all involved in those conversations that would not be the net sore. Kevin durant wish doing a deal. They wanna get james harden or they want to talk about. James harden deal that put him as a as a as a big three a super team in brooklyn not not to move cairo. The kyri and kevin durant have were in la working out with james harden. And you know it's been a broader conversation. How that would work and listen. It's three somebody is taking the back seat you can. You can have co stars. It's hard to have three. It certainly would be a challenge to imagine how it would work but The nets if they were to do a deal like that it would be built around other pieces. They had certainly draft picks but again the two sides have been in contact. But but the rockets really have shown no inclination to start wanting to put a package together to see if they can get something done with new york with brooklyn. What about philadelphia. Seventy sixers in glen rivers no doctor and woes. What about philadelphia do they do. They get in the mix on this well right now. Hardens focuses entirely. I'm told on brooklyn listen. Of course daryl morey would love. There's not there's very few organizations if any that wouldn't want to kick the tires on james harden and see what it would cost for right now. I think it's also hard to imagine. Houston and their owner. Tillman for tita. After daryl morey left and then went to houston went on to philly to take over there. The idea then of shipping james harden philadelphia imagining a championship parade. Someday you know through the streets philly with daryl morey with james harden listen if if philly ultimately offered the best package and it was significantly better than everybody else's you've got to do the right thing for your organization but all things being equal. I think that's an uphill battle for philly to think that they could get involved in a james harden discussion but things change. And i think a lot of this is going to be built around how how hard hard and wants to keep pushing to get out. How difficult potentially he could make life day in and day out in houston but we're not to training camp yet. We're not to the season and it's a little. It's a little easier stomach a player's desire to leave when you're still in an off season then when he's coming to work every day Impacting everybody around. You saw that would jimmy. Butler and minnesota timberwolves thought. Hey we could hold onto jimmy. We can make this work. And then it became untenable. Let's see how hard and handles this when they get back together. Assuming he's still on the team when when training camp starts enough about batman. Let's talk about robin russell. Westbrook wind up all of this. I think right now. It's it's a slow developing market for russell westbrook. You know they've had. They've reached out to teams really much. More so i think with harden. They're seeing what comes to them right now but but they've reached out the teams. There's nothing with any traction with russell westbrook right now and so i think the possibility is significant that they start training camp still with with both hard and westbrook on the roster. Jesus feels like a houston rockets. Radio show here zubin because here. We are talking about two guys from the rockets. And now we're gonna talk about a former rock and hunted chris. Paul deogee done so quickly well. Oklahoma city worked with chris paul on where he might like to go. It's a finite number of teams for a player. I think with. Chris paul's salary at thirty five years old. That's not a deal for everybody but phoenix just increasingly. Made more sense for him. You know geographically close to where his family resides now in los angeles and an organization that really needed him. He can make just a tremendous impact from certainly on the court. A helping to get that team back into the for the first time in a long time but just his leadership his professionalism. The impact that chris paul can have on the andrea and devon booker really wanted him there. The organization and in phoenix took a big step forward last year by bringing in monty williams as their head coach. He brought a level of credibility of competency to that job. And i think chris. Paul elevates it even further They've been rudderless for a very long time with the sons is. It's got a proud history. It's a great basketball town. And you saw the potential of that team in the bubble. Going unbeaten in that in the restart just missed out on getting into the plan. I think chris. Paul is going to have the potential of a dramatic impact for that suns organization. There's no doubt about it. The nba's best insider whoa is with. This served that mentorship role in oklahoma city. Thunder did better than anybody could have reasonably expected phoenix at such a young roster to and he'll certainly bill to impart his wisdom their last thing for you drew holiday the trade to the milwaukee bucks. Everybody is talking about getting the honest enough pieces from your reporting. This is probably the first of a couple moves are going to have to make. What does the honest camper those around the bucks think of making this acquisition in the hopes of keeping janas long-term there was a lot of excitement and enthusiasm around that bucks organization late late last night. Not only did they acquire drew holiday in the deal but they put themselve imposition to finalize a sign and trade later on here closer to free agency with bogdonovich from the sacramento kings. And just a really impactful couple potentially impactful acquisitions and as jaanus gets closer here to having to make a decision about signing that extension and foregoing free agency next summer. This was something that the bucks knew they had to do. They had to upgrade this team. You know they. Dennis schroder was a player that they very much a wanted to try to do a deal for. He goes to the lakers. And then they upgrade. Go get jrue holiday from new orleans. But i think. There's a lot of optimism around that milwaukee organization but ultimately it'll still be honest as decision on how he wants. Go forward indeed. We asked roja bunch of questions this morning but the biggest question so many people in the nba of wondered for the last several years is how does a twenty five year old two time. Mvp named jaanus get drafted fifteenth overall in his draft class. Do you think there's fourteen players metro that him woke investigates the twist and turns that led the franchise and league to see that altering decision made in that twenty thirteen draft. It's a three part series. That tells a unique story. It's got interviews with people close to you as well. As the greek freak himself won't be able to sit down with them one on one. It's three part it's binge worthy if you get into it just keeps on listening you can check out the wage pod special jaanus strapped wherever you get your podcast right now. Roads thank you very much. See get up here in just a few minutes. All right thanks guys. That's the nba's best insider on the way our nfl insider says it's not at all crazy to think the saints could win the division with jameis winston and without drew brees for no matter how long he may be out. That's next keyshawn. Jay williams zubin on. Espn radio we'll see. Those are the two options right. Now for the new orleans saints. I'm sure you've probably heard yesterday. Drew brees cracked ribs punctured lung as a result of the former and he is on the shelf. We're not exactly sure for how much you saw. Jameis winston come in sunday against the forty niners. He was six for ten and hill. Also got some run as well. Let's run it down with. Espn nfl insider. Dan graziano giving us the straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless no contract. No compromise keyshawn will zubin here on. Espn radio dan. From the reporting that you have What is the confidence level inside the saints organization that if they have to go a reasonable amount of time without drew brees that jameis winston and tastes hill can get it done. Yeah they believe in their roster right and they've had jameis winston there and they've liked what he's done in terms of practice and as a backup so they're hopeful and he's hill's been there he knows what they wanna do key difference. The last year teddy bridgewater played five games when brees was hurt and and they went five. No that was teddy second year in the system in new orleans. This is james is first and they didn't have an offseason so it's important to keep expectations where they need to be. But you know james. Winston incredibly talented guy had thirty touchdown passes last year. Five thousand yards. You know i. It's possible he gets it. Done schedule doesn't look too terrifying. And again they can work as you just heard jeff saturday mentioning their taste some hill and maybe a little bit more than they do when it's breeze but but it's a huge opportunity for james. I mean this is the showcase right. This is how you sell yourself to a potential future employers by how you doing this in this little Chance see for me dan. I think future employers already in newark beta right because of drew brees whenever drew brees size. The walk away. If you're jameis winston. I'm doing what i'm supposed to do. I'm not getting any trouble. They like me they embrace me. Why not stick around with him. This past weekend dan. You had the dolphins the giants the cardinals all pickup major wins which one of these teams do you believe will make it to the play offs. I think i think the cardinals are the most likely although i reserve the right to change my mind if they lose to seattle on thursday night. That's a huge game right and the changes the entire outlook in the in the nfc west depending on which way it goes. I really like miami. And and their next three games are all winnable. Buffalo's off this week and they play buffalo in the final week of the season. They may have a chance to win the division on the field game. Believe that games in buffalo. I think the first game was in miami. But i have to look. I think it's in buffalo. That's a rough water traveling buffalo to rough. They gotta get a little build a little lead to catch them and build a giant. I think are still a little bit short. But i gotta say the way. They're playing the way they're coming together under joe judge. If i'm a giants fan. I would be very very happy with what i'm seeing from a team that i don't think really had reasonable expectations for this year. And and i think you're you're very encouraged. If you data jones hasn't turned the ball over two straight games can you imagine. Zoom zoom laughed at me a month ago plus when they were one in seven or whatever it was and i was like i think they're gonna win the division man. It was like. Are you crazy. I'll tell you this dan right. Aaron thi this someone will win the they will have a playoff team from the nfc east. It has to be somebody. What have you seen from brady in the books lately. That makes you think they could win the division away from the saints. I think what we saw this week is the ability brady to keep everyone happy right. All the receivers had a good day and that's been a big question. They're going to be too many mouths to feed. And obviously it's not gonna look like that every single week and the opponent plays into it. But i think what we saw this week was the buccaneers offense working. The way they wanted to. And that extends all the way to. The run game obviously saw the one big run from ronald jones. But they've been at their best this year when he has so as long as they can keep that formula going and as long as brady keeps playing the way he can And the way he did sunday. I think they'll be right. You know they. They don't get on another they. Don't get on an airplane for another month. they're next road. Game is december twentieth. So what do they have a home games and a by between now and then so you look at a forty three year. Old quarterback a veteran t that matters right lane absolutely yes. So that's that's a. That's a big part of having great weather having great weather late in the year. We're tom is used to plant in foxborough lady year now he gets sunshine seventy five eighty degrees. He gets to put those opponents in dark. Jerseys i mean that's stuff really pays off. Let me ask you about this though last night. Two teams minnesota. Vikings in the chicago bears was not laser focused on offense bill right. I mean like chicago bears and at offense what happens to that team now in the head coach as well as pace the general manager lost four in a row they were five and one other five and five they have a bye and then come out of the by the have to do something i mean. They got the packers on sunday night. Game right out of the bhai so they have to start turning in a row now when we did our. We did a little coaching thing about a month ago. We surveyed the scene. What's gonna come open. What's expected to happen. What we were hearing was the things in chicago. We're going to be okay that nagy would be safe etcetera etcetera but obviously they've lost every game since then and you wonder if things turn around when you check in on these these things in early december. Things can sound different than they did in early november. So look mad. Nagy's supposed to be an offensive guy. They can't score nick. Foles is the quarterback he wanted to bring in the the would know what he's talking about it. They have to switch off mitchell trubisky. They did there too and five since they made the switch. It's not looking good right. I mean if you look at it from the outside we don't we of team ownership but obviously these are the kinds of things that happen in advance of a change so obviously you have to look at that sita's potentially hot They have time to turn it around five and one they have those wins in the bank. But they've got a star. Find a way of score points. I mean i. It looks terrible. The jets are the only jets are the only team. Averaging fewer points per game fewer yards per game fewer third downs lower. Third down percentage. I mean it's an abysmal. Off in crazy thing you mentioned the jets the jets offense look better the chicago with flacco and the quarterback spot. I mean let's be honest here. Let's talk about the minnesota. Vikings the other team that played last night. Minnesota's off tour. Pretty hot second. Half of the season i would say. Do you anticipate them. Maybe making while court spot. I think they've got a chance to games out behind that that. Cluster of nfc west teams. That are six and three. But you know some of those teams. They're gonna play each other. So they're they're going to lose some games. Minnesota looked alvin cook. He got bottled up last night. It looked like the bears were definitely trying to key in on that. Make sure he didn't crush them in the way he came into the game with you. Know four hundred. Seventy or whatever scrimmage yards in his last two games. They're running their offense the way they want to. And when they get to play defenses that aren't as fearsome as this one. I think dalvin cook gets back to dominating and once that happens. I think you've seen that formula work. Defense has gotten better as the year's gone along because they've played together long as a lot of new pieces coming together so i think they have a shot. I mean look at seven seven. Maybe eight her conference that make the playoffs this year. So you really can't rule them out the way they're playing and and how close they're getting all of a sudden. We should clean that up for those. That are not aware right now. The nfl has moved forward towards fourteen teams in the playoffs. The first playoff expansion thirty years when it was twelve team so that would be seven in each conference with the number one seed getting the by that would be the only team the top level team in each conference ever get the by. Dan's point is if we go into some sort of bubble of the coronavirus ravages the back end of the season. The nfl has a plan in place to go to sixteen teams. Of course be eight in each conference that would be a full fifty percent of the national. Football league wasn't too long ago. This was one of the hardest sports depicted playoffs but that could be different. You mentioned that miami game by the way that game will be played on january third and this is important to note. We'll be played on january third in buffalo. You know what that looks like. It will not be whiteboard for a florida team to go to buffalo in january. When i'm coming out of ninety degree weather hanging out on the beach to go into buffalo for some soggy wings plus nicole plus like buffalo's good they like Buffalo buffalo's the better team on paper. But you know if miami can take advantage of soft schedule coming up tough loss for buffalo. A game they thought. They had one this past sunday in in arizona. So i thought they want a chance to make it. They've got a chance to make it a race. No doubt about it. How about the eagles. What is all of your reporting say. Doug peterson went on the radio yesterday in philadelphia. Absolute rant losing his cool carson. Wentz as you can tell has been struggling all season long. There's some question about whether howie roseman. The executive vice president has gotten the team enough talent. If you look at who is throwing from your reporting what are you hearing inside the eagles organization. Well they're they're frustrated and they're upset and they thought they would be better than this. Obviously it's it's weird. You know going back two months. They were the injury ravaged team. Oh wouldn't it be nice. If they had been healthy they could have made a run and now they're supposed to win now. They're the favorites because first place still by a game and a half even after they lost to the giants the other day so they can get it turned around and the other thing is. I think you get a sense. That doug peterson. Carson wentz deserve the benefit of the doubt. The last two years the eagles have been five and six going into december and then went four and one and made the playoffs so they may not have to go four and one into your make a team that has shown an ability to finish strong. When something's on the line obviously they would like to be playing better and they could have this thing. Put away already but obviously it's not going to be easy. No question about it. They're playing right now. Point three eight nine football. They're playing under four hundred football. Nobody else in the nfl is under six hundred. I mean really take a look at the differences with the nfc east and the rest of the divisions in the nfl. at least i got the time back pocket. They do which matters could really make the difference when you come down to who wins that division seven and nine or six nine in one. It could be huge tie against the cincinnati bengals. So many people were down on when they tie that game. Joe burrow in cincinnati could end up being their saving. Grace dan great perspective. Thanks for being this morning. My pleasure keyshawn jalen zubin presented by progressive insurance. We just talked about with dan kirk cousins. He made a little monday night. History last night waited long enough to get it. And we're about to see some more history on monday night once more. And this is no small thing. And i think in the year twenty. Twenty-nine we're all realizing where we are in. The national football league has had more of a public reckoning than most other institutions. But there's never the wrong time to do the right thing. That's a statement. That's a cliche. But i think we're experiencing that more and more this year this is just a terrific story doesn't even know about it yeah. We often talk during the commercial break about all the topics. We're going to talk about but this is the first time keys hearing this key. I want you to hear this. This is really really awesome. So last night we had some cheap history right with kirk cousins when it is first game on monday night football and arbitrary day the week one monday. It's not a big deal. But that's the history nonetheless just for statistical purposes. This is real history. Ready for this re. Nfl has assembled in all black officiating crew. All african american to work for the first time in next week's monday night. Football game between the los angeles rams and the tampa bay bucks. The league is citing the opportunity to recognize their history and recent practices in diversifying their officiating department. Here's an exact quote from troy. Vincent the executive vice president of football operations for the nfl former nfl player and notably african american quote this historic week. Eleven crew is a testament to the countless and immeasurable contributions of black officials to the game their exemplary performance and to the power of inclusion. That is the hallmark of this great game. The crew will be led by referee jerome boettger. That may name may not mean much to you but if you've watched football anytime over the last several years you have seen her own. Go up turned his microphone on. And tell you there's holding and we've got a penalty. You will recognize that guy's face as soon as you see him next monday night. When stevie officially announces his name on the broadcast so the crew will be led by referee jerome vulgar and includes four members of his twenty twenty crew. I think this is amazing. There's a larger issue here. Which is the officials are getting much older. In many cases officials are lawyers. Doctors are not full-time jobs. These guys have other jobs. Big time jobs officials are also getting older. There's also believe it or not. There's an officiating brain drain because of the way parents deal with their kids at these youth sporting events. There's a huge issue just people that want to be officials anymore. I don't wanna go out there for twenty dollars on a weekend and be rated by some parents. So they're seeing a huge brain drain. It all sports officiating level so the fact that that is going to be rectified to an extent and the fact that the nfl is doing this. I think is just absolutely incredible. You can bang on them. All you want for their minority hiring practices their tone deafness trying to do the right thing giving out drafts. All that is fine. They finally nailed it with this slowly. Surely they nailed some things here near depending on what it is. I still think. And i've always felt this way officials in all league should be full-time they. The league's make enough money to just make a full-time what's the big deal like. Nba major league. Baseball umpire full-time just make a full-time all leaks. Should just make them full time. They make enough money. You say well. What do they do in the off season. When there's no play you studying you figure out how to make the game better from an officiating standpoint. Rules changes on that all all sorts of stuff. We should also mention here. I think it's notable that they're doing it in a standalone game. It's monday night football. And i totally get it sunday. Night is the money i get it. I understand sunday night football monday night. Football is an amazing history. Fifty years largely on abc. I'll be. I'll be watching for sure but i think it's important to not just do it during a fox or cbs. Big cowboy game that most of the country's gonna get not ever. You need a standalone moment to accentuate. Because you you mess around and like you said most of the country some of the country some states you in you go to certain places. The tv too small monitor's on you what you may not even notice what's going on but if it's in a primetime situation on monday night football game everybody's typically at home in its own at somebody's television in the house at some point time. I do also like the fact that. I know when you watch monday night. Football on our folks. he's such a great job. If you watched last night's game all the great history that the bears the vikings have had. I don't think i'm gonna put myself in his group. I don't think people realize how difficult it is to become an official. Stay there the way that they're graded each and every week and so. I think it's going to put a special spotlight and a special spotlight on a special group of official. I've officiated my son's little league basketball game. I didn't i didn't like it. What did feel good right. It just didn't it didn't feel it's almost like when you coaching little league son's little league basketball team right. Johnny doesn't get the minutes parents stink or there's a foul that they think you should call you. Don't call it. They think that you've been a homer is just not good. So of course. Be imagine being official being jailed and screamed at not only by the fans coaches and players being berated in treated a certain way. When you out there trying to do your best job you know you miss a call or you. Blind all human. Sorry you know what i mean and social media these guys are getting killed left and right on social media auto pay attention to that neither do i but it is something that certainly out there so an amazing gesture by the national football league and the fact that we can spotlighted on monday night. Football here on. Espn is going to be awesome here in less than a week. Kudos tip of the cap to the national football league. Let's pay off our dr pepper twitter. Feed we simply asked today who deserves the most blame for carson wentz immense regression. And why is it wins himself. Is it head coach. Doug peterson who's taken some bullets wins. Or is it executive vice president. General manager howie roseman. Who may not have put the weapons around carson wentz or the guy that pulled the trigger on the deal key is easily said the answers carson. Wentz when you're the quarterback and you get that much money you have to get all the praise and blame carson. Wentz is indeed the runaway winner. Here on the dr pepper twitter feed key. Sixty two percent gopher wentz. Doug peterson who went on the radio yesterday. Instead it's all on me twenty six percent. He of course former eagles quarterback himself and roseman in third at twelve percent. I think over the course of time. He's gotten a pretty good roster. He built their super bowl roster but falling all on win. I'll start with howie rosement. How can you complain yes. He drafted jalen reagor. He in the shot who got her jackson. The alshon jeffery is still there war. They moved from quarterback to receiver. So as you start to look at the pieces at the beginning of the season he gave him some pieces. There's no question about it if fell apart. Then you look at doug peterson doug peters you got to look at him putting the plays together that best fit. His quarterback now is to quarterbacks job to execute. Those plays as i said before. Every single played as dowd up. There's at least one person open on every single play in the passing game. At least one guy he has to find that one guy and this point he has been unable to do just that tomorrow we will find ourselves. Nba draft day the latest ball. The warriors picking second will break it down tomorrow morning. Have a great day. Thanks for listening to keyshawn. Jay williams zubin make sure to subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show weekdays at six eastern on. Espn radio espn news. You stream your audio. Hello everybody you're looking live. At fans ville college football utopia ends with a rivers flow with ice cold. 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NFL Draft Breakdown: NFC Winners & Losers

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NFL Draft Breakdown: NFC Winners & Losers

"This is Christian Kirk with Arizona Cardinals. And you're listening to the fantasy football podcast. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from pristine auction dot com studios with your hose, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike, right? Welcome in. So happy to be here. Joined by Jason and Mike, I'm Andy Holloway. And this is the fantasy football podcast coming to you Tuesday, April thirtieth. So much to talk about so exciting times are. Times are very exciting. Mike, weeded Rica don't all whole show and not even talk about football. Yeah. You're still riding high on game of thrones. Oh, not just thrones. Oh danger. Everything NFL draft. Everything is everything is very good right now, I really have nothing to look forward to anymore. Well, I that goes for you, maybe but not our listeners not the case supporters, the rookie in dire. No rankings the rookie and dynasty rankings are in the ultimate draft kit right now as promised we've had time to digest all of the happenings from Thursday, Friday, Saturday, the NFL draft, the fantasy football implicat- implications. I'm so excited to talk about winners and losers today, we're talking through the NFC teams. And when I say winners or losers. It's not just it's really not even talking about necessarily which rookies went where. But which rookies effect other players on these teams there were some big time winners based on, you know, competition not being drafted right for where they line up. Oh, I mean, I I was holding my breath the entire draft overtime Oakland was on because you know, I just had a dynasty startup draft. Derek carr. His his whole career can change in the blink of an eye. You know, is is he I like that it goes to Jarrett car. Meanwhile, Damian Williams skyrockets to adopt him. Meanwhile, Terrel Henderson drafted directly behind girly. Look so much to talk about. But I get what you're saying. Because if Dwayne Haskins is drafted by Oakland their careers is done by way of fantasy starter Ville, probably self. Eloquent eloquent. Yes, I I'm just I'm hyped. I'm ready to go on. There's there's a lot of news to cover on today's show as well. So there is news. Stay tuned. Do not miss it. We also want to kick things off with a big big big announcement. And nothing says big announcement like. You or? Jason is do you live up to blue from willy Wonka? Assemble listen, we are we've we've teased it a little bit. But we're very excited to announce the people's fantasy tour. Yeah, presented by pristine auction. We are coming live is a live podcast tour. We did it last year for the first time we're coming coast to coast this June, July and August, and I'm just speaking for myself. I don't know about these guys. But this is the most fun you can possibly have hated it. I mean, this was honestly, it's such a cool chance to meet everybody out there that has made the fantasy football is a part of your day for years, and we meet hundreds of people on this tour. We do meet and greet. We hang out for as long as possible at each venue because it's what it's all about the people. That's what makes fantasy football great. We are like I said we're hitting the road June July and August, here's where we're going to be. We're going to be in Chicago. Oh, yeah. Right at Dahlia hall Lia follow you off the tour. We'll be in New York City at Gramercy theatre will be in San Francisco at the independent will be in Los Angeles at Largo, and we'll be back here in Phoenix at the crescent ballroom once again, and you can head right now to ballers live dot com. And you can get more information about the live tour. We would love to see you out there. We've got some really cool things going on with this tour. And if you get in the right now, you're part of the exclusive presale lottery before tickets, go to general on sale and were really really excited about this next door neighbor, duper. We have partnered with Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital on the entire tour and what we're actually doing is. We're making available a very limited amount of VIP tickets all the VIP ticket options, go directly to support the kids of Saint Jude via pick VIP tickets include a meet and greet preferred seating at the tour, and you get a signed limited edition tour. Poster. Oh, Jason's got the shirt on if you if you are on YouTube, you can see some of the tour art, and you can enter that lottery. Ballers live dot com. This is a cool chance to hang out is a cool chance to support a great cause with Saint Jude. And I couldn't be more. Excited about what's going on? So hopefully, we see you in Chicago, New York. San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix. All of them. We hope that when you're listening. You start making your plans, you can buy all five city to or cross somebody shows up to all five I'll give you a medal. That's how I'll figure it out. I'll get you. Some kind of metal Mike is forging metal medallions for our listeners. So that's what's going on. I mean, a button became a buy button. I mean like one of those was Dicker with a sticker. It's it's a dog sticker. Yeah. Bolers lie dot com. Just reminds you. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league presented by sleeper. See that was so exciting. Oh, we were riding high for now. We gotta talk about tyreek hill. Let's quickly. I mainly. All right. Audio has been released. The case has been reopened against tyreek hill, he's not partaking in any team activities, and essentially we got word this morning via sleeper that it's very likely. He's added to the commissioners exemplified very soon as this investigation. Proceeds and we always talk about you know, when you don't know what a team's gonna do look at what their actual transactions are. And obviously in the draft their first pick the Kansas City Chiefs, I pick they went and drafted a tyreek hill comparible style of player saying that. That could be an indication that they do not expect to keep him. Why? And people want our opinion on this ever since the news broke give me a percentage chance to think tyreek hill plays football. Again. I would say it's about five percent and not with the chiefs. Again, I'll go maybe five to ten percent this year ongoing zero percent chance that he plays again. But it won't be for the chiefs. I think he'll get cut. He'll be on the exemplify he'll be gone for a couple years. And then some team will take a gamble in a risk. You know? I know I know we've seen it too many times these these teams when there's a young talented player. I mean, it's a shame. Yeah. It just it stinks. It stinks. Ultimately for tyreek hill the person what his decision making. And in those impacted the victims of this situation, his girlfriend the child we're just pray full that you know, they're in a safe situation. ESPN's Adam Schefter reporters real chance that Doug Baldwin will be unable. To continue playing and the Seattle Seahawks degree by drafting to I'd receivers. Yeah. All the jokes. We've been making over the last month or two when you weren't supposed to do this. They feel worse. Now, we're like he's he's he's gonna be a machine with jokes because he was going to come back right way football. And this this has not looking likely, so we'll talk through the ru- the wide receiver situation a little bit on the show today with the NFC winners and losers from the draft. There won't be an announcement soon because there are salary cap ramifications. And they said that Doug Baldwin himself will make that announcement not the team if he decides to retire. We know he's undergone multiple surgeries Assam season. It's not looking good. And the big man the big lefty Sebastian. Yes. He has retired sea bass swimming off into the night. I means there's only one player left from that draft class. Oh, really in the NFL. Is that Tom Brady is sure is Tom Brady has outlasted the mall. Wow. And this is a eighteen year. Retirement fertile Jankowski? So a reminder that was today's news notes brought to you by the sleeper app. Ask you Commissioner to move over to sleeper great platform for your dynasty league. Always improving guys. Let's get into it. We'll go win. All right NFC winners and losers were starting in the NFC west Brooks strategically weird rearranged our show docs this week. So that we had the opportunity to start with the NFC. And then I look in in our dock and we're starting with the NFC west. And then I say, wow, we're gonna start with the cardinals in the NFC west pure coincidence. No number one pick. They have a number one pack, and I guess winter me. Yeah. Arizona fans are excited and this was fares on fans for fantasy fans. This is a good draft. This is a draft. That means that the players the incumbents the existing players on this roster. David Johnson, Larry FitzGerald, these were players that last year was rough sledding bad offense mines bad personnel problems. Josh Rosen was traded Cuyler Murray goes number one overall they invest too high. Capital picks on wide receivers. They draft three wide receivers. Overall, India's Abella Akeem Butler who was if you remember the wide receiver show one of my favorites. And then Keyshawn Johnson. Guys. You gave yourself a brand new quarterback. You gave cliff Kingsbury the guy you wanted. And then you gave him a ton of weapons in this draft. Andy Isabella ran a four three one fastest wide receiver. Akeem Butler is a a dynamic outside playmaker. Winners and losers from this draft. I think all the offense of players and cardinals fantasy fans and cardinals fans in general were winners. Yeah. I think David Johnson is a huge winner. Here. You're you've got you've got a new offense of mind coming in. And clearly the team said we want to get playmakers. We wanna get people they could bus things open keep chains moving. And while it's not going to be all roses this year. You know, I've got him down for a good five win. It will be no rose. It will be no Rosen's either. Who is you might say. Big loser in this situation. Basically they traded Josh Rosen franey Isabella, right? And they traded a second wolf fifth rounder next year a man, but I mean, this is good news for David Johnson. Things will open up for him. You know, we've we've talked about in the past rushing quarterback slots open things up for the running back. So I mean, David Johnson should be, you know, one of those top picks in in the beginning of the first how do you feel about? Christian Kirk Kristen had a in. Okay. Rookie season got hurt. Larry Joe Christian Kirk really the only two threats on that office before this draft. And then you bring in Isabela Butler Johnson is would you classify Christian Kirk is a loser of this draft or a winner because the Kyla Murray, selection and the offense you you'd have to call him a loser from the fact that like his so me I know fantasy wise in that's because the air raid system now has the the weapons that needs to actually succeed. It's not force feed these two guys because they're the only two capable wide receivers on the team. So I think you have to downgrade Christian Kirk at least what his ceiling could be because I both both Isabela in Keene Butler in at least in my breakdown, our alpha level players these are guys that could be number one's on their team. Keen Butler six five over to twenty. He's a he's a beast of a man and. And so you can't say that Kirk is for sure gonna be the number one guy. It's a brand new system. It's a brand new quarterback. So he's he's he's pretty much at the grand floor with the otherwise, I will say this. He he's a winner Anna loser. Because you're right. His ceiling Ziva was but his draft cost is going to be nothing. Now when whenever a team comes in and draughts three rookie wide receivers. You're not going to say, Chris Chris the one, but there's a good chance here. The Chris Kirk is is the one as the, you know, the only veteran under the age of thirty four on the wrong. Other similarities to like, how you view drawn a milestone last year with the three income and rookies in Green Bay, and how you might view Christie Kirk this year and the three rookies coming in and Arizona, I think it's a fair fair points. Because it's it's a little bit different where we hadn't. We haven't seen. We had our in carton together. Right. Well, you hadn't seen a lot. Bring college fromm Geronimo. So Kim coming into the situation felt like the rookies could easily overtake him even in he might pin. You took the job. So Kirk is a little bit more established is what I'm saying than Allison was in that scenario. All right before we move onto the Rams, I will say this. We kind of come at it from three Engels with Arizona. We have our own personal fandom just being born raised out here cardinal fans. My own personal fandom has not been a Josh Rosen fan. I wasn't happy that we drafted him. You've heard me talk about it on the show. Then you have the fantasy perspective right and fantasy wise. I wasn't a Josh Rosen fan. But as a person he impressed me through this situation. I people don't know this. I thought I'd mention it after the trade. He was sent to the dolphins after he was traded. He still stayed out here in Phoenix participated in the charity of infra Larry FitzGerald softball game in the in the fans out here gave Miranda applauses. He left posted a really kind of funny nice, respectful classy video, and he was not complaining through this whole thing. I hope he has success in Miami. I really do. He I think this could be one of those win win wins for Rosen where he doesn't have to come in new week one. Like, it's fits magic down there. In Miami's gotta plan. They're gonna trust the process in Rosa can spend a little bit more time. You don't think Rosen ends up week one starter? No. I do not you think. Jason. I think he will. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's move onto the Rams. There is one big story line to talk about with Los Angeles in their draft. Obviously, we're focusing often players Jason knows what it is. And that would be. The fact that the Los Angeles Rams traded up to pick up at the very beginning of the third round. At the top of the third rail. Good one of Mike, and is I think favorite running back in the draft. Daryl Henderson out of Memphis. And if you are a Todd Gurley owner is impossible not to call this a loss. A loser situation for Todd Gurley coming out of the draft. Obviously, Malcolm Brown big loser. If he was the perceived handcuff but Todd Gurley this is some high draft capital insurance for an MVP level running back. How do you feel being you know, you you have girly in our dynasty league? Jason. Yes. Please talk about that. Look, I feel negative about it. The reality is, you know, we just say fuck about you, don't you don't wanna follow coachspeak coach saying all the great things about getting really the ball. What you wanna follow his transactions? What is the team doing with their money with their capital with their draft picks? And what they chose to do was bring back the backup, Malcolm Brown, and then trade up for a third rounder and grab another running back because they are going to probably Batman and Robin. This let me let me set that table a little bit more for you. They brought back Malcolm Brown. They matched an offer. He went out and was desired by another team in the ramp said, no, we can't possibly lose. You. They traded up in the third round. This was only their second pick in the draft. So this it was their third pick. They are is really Twardy. Needs title. They had a big need. Apparently that was over running back. Yeah. Don't say big knee because that's different thing. Here's the thing. We just put up our dynasty rankings rookie rankings. It is very difficult. No matter what side of the fence, you're on with girlies. Hell it's super difficult to rank him in dynasty formats right now. Yes. Because you just don't know what's true. And what's false. I was staring down, you know. And maybe no more now or maybe they're just insuring themselves with a more dynamic player. It pass catcher in Henderson incase. Girly goes down. I was staring down girly and Joe mix and my dynasty rankings. Just going can I really move girly below mix. And I couldn't do it. But I know Andy you did do it. It was it was I think girlies at seven in my dynasty runningback rankings. And there is a difference. So fantasy owners here's here's the two scenarios that I see for Todd girl, you guys tell me if you agree scenario. One is Todd Gurley isn't bad. Back to full health and won't get back to full health, and we'll play a platoon role. The other situation is simply that toddler is. Now, a higher injury risk in general, but is back to full health will be the lead dog and they needed to invest in a running back because of the risk. I leaned that direction. The that he will be back. He will be back to who. He was but millions of dollars wallets of their owners. That's true. What's crazy about that for fantasy? And this. I'm talking redraft when you're sitting there pick number three and Todd Gurley is there, and you actually have hesitance about drafting him. And I I won't blame you at all. That's going to be a very difficult thing to call your shot say, Yep. Todd girlies fine. He's going to get all those Golan carries yet again, especially when they added Daryl Henderson, he's re people. Darrell Henderson is really really good pleased draft as late as you can. Redrafting if there was ever situation, you where you need more information for as long as you can this is it. Existing receiving core wasn't affected. They didn't take any white outs in this draft didn't need to know. They don't Cooper cop. Coming back. Robber was Brandin cooks. All right. Let's move onto the forty Niners. The forty Niners spent the first pick Nick Bosa and then went wide receiver wide receiver in the second and third rounds top of each round on deebo Samuel and then. Yeah. Deebo Samuel Jalen Hurd. Those are two really good wide receivers. And yeah, I go ahead. Keep in mind deebo Samuel was the third wide receiver taken in the draft. They could've they had their pick of just about anyone out there. And they saw what a lot of people say C, which is debate does evoke great player. I mean, that's more draft capital spent here than what they spent on Dante Pettis. So the the question is is negative for Dante Pettus is negative from Archies Goodwin. Certainly Markey's Goodwin agreed has gone from fringe relevance to probably irrelevance at this point. Deebo Samuel is a good wind out. We neglected him in our rookie show. He was in our show, doc, we just time it time. We ended up. I think talking about Isabel at the end and talk about deebo lot of people projected depot to go well below guys like de que Metcalf. The went way after him. But I know he's he's a favorite of many Jalen Hurd is much. He played in the slot ton in college. He also played running back only played one year wide receiver. There's a there's some opinion that I've read about heard being used in a kind of Cordeiro Patterson type of role in this offense, so kick returner one. No, no. I mean gadget player. I mean. We're it's just funny. When I hear people use that conflict. Well, it may not work out. Very well for cordray will not I'm not talking early career Cordeiro are I'm talking about last year with the patriots where he had the opportunity to take hand-offs to take little this. And that so. I believe that Dante Petters elite talent, and there's always a balance between putting more talent on a team and taking away from Pettus. I think it comes down to what is the confidence level that Jimmy Garoppolo and the team hasn't Dante Pettus. And if you believe let's let's subsitute, right? Like, if I don't know the giants when they had Dell had drafted deebo Samuel, Jalen Hurd, you wouldn't think twice about no not at all. Because a great talent demands. Great targets the this. It's very similar to. Excuse me, it Tricia Kirk. I mean, Chris Kirk was the second round pick last year showed enough on to the team on film. Like this is a good player. He's going to be able to do things. He's interesting fantasy. And then the team just came in and replenished the the war chest with wide receiver. So and I saw that as it's a negative for Christian Kirk this team to me, this is a negative to Dante Pettus the team could be better. But you for me, I'm moving down a couple of minutes not to say that can't succeed. I think he has to succeed. I think he will succeed, but the opportunity he has now is more difficult. But then he'll he'll be the one. He would have been the one before the drafting is the one after the draft. That's the only part to me that I'm if he's on the field the same. You have some town more talent around him. But he didn't he's not losing his wide receiver one spot. I think the big the biggest winner in the whole situation Jimmy Garoppolo Jimmy gras because. Yes. Sammy Jalen her? Yeah. That's where we need to focus or good players. And maybe it doesn't happen year one and in their rookie year, but you know, future wise, I think Jimmy Garoppolo has some great weapons Kyle Shanahan there. I I really like San Francisco did as far as you know, you get the elite pass and then you focus on your offense. Would you move Jimmy geo based on this draft? Because if there's one thing that we haven't had any clarity on. And maybe that's starting to drip over into wide receivers. We don't know of its memory jerk. Mckinnon or Tevin Coleman shirt, we might not know of his deebo. Samuel Dante Pettis Jalen her marquees Goodwin or George Kittle. But we know it's. Dynasty, all move him up. But short term. I mean, these are still rookies. So I'm not gonna go crazy for the handsome one before we move off the team, though, we got you know, how old that punter is Mitch was now skied. No, I I am not aware of the punter selected four three fourth row selection. Always in Utah. Oh, no. He went on his mission. He's probably twenty. He's twenty seven years old. And he got drafted Mitch. You're my hero for telling me we can go back can we enter Brooks twenty seven was a bit ago. Now, look I can put up I can punt the ball at least fifteen yards. Jason was our punter on our flag team as I was is it third. He got up to thirty yards. With a forward. Roll nice for some shakes. Thanks more six Jason more. I don't give a catchable ball. All right. Let's talk about this is. Let's talk about the Seattle Seahawks winners and losers from this draft main their weight room, the big winter, decay Metcalf, and Gary Jennings junior to white outs drafted in the third or sorry. The very end of the second round for Metcalf and the middle of the fourth round for Gary Jennings out of West Virginia. They also drafted a running back. Did they not in the six round? But who who are the winners and losers on the Seahawks? I mean word I think we do disagree about this the way that we were seeing the rookie drafts. Go I think Metcalf was loser. As far as rookie selections going to low volume passing team. They there are run first team Schottenheimer. We've we've covered this ad nauseam. I think it was a not the best landing spot for what Metcalf could have become an what everyone wanted to what what? The draft Twitter wanted him to become. Yeah. We're going to disagree their dog because I think while he dropped, and that's not good for your your capital. I can't imagine. It's Randy over here. I can't imagine a much better landing spot because Deka Metcalf. I don't I don't see him being one hundred reception type player if he if he pans out, you know, one of those guys it's getting one hundred fifty sixty targets. He he's not a possession guy. He's a deep threat. An amazing talent what he can do. And so, you know, that's where I think you've got a player who's matching up perfect with Russell Wilson. You saw how valuable on low target volume. Tyler Boyd was if you're running around buying time. I can't imagine a better target to throw it over the mountains to than than decay Metcalf. So touchdown lies. I think that's where decays fancy values gonna come. And I think he matched up well to go to team more. Might be losing Doug Baldwin. I don't have the same opinion of Metcalf as I would have if this Baldwin news income out. I think I think it matters. Punt and you have a situation here with with Hollywood Brown with AJ Brown with decay mccafe's where low pass offenses drafted some of the best talent. Yeah. At the wide receiver position. So you would you take decay Metcalf over a J Brown? I would would you take Metcalf over Markey's Brown? I would so in that situation with what's going on with with Russell Wilson. I think you have opportunity I think it obviously helps Russell Wilson to have been given a couple more weapons. But you're right. There were probably there were other homes that he could onto that would've made you happier. We just say, I don't know. We haven't really discussed this. But I feel like as a whole not for every player out there. But if you just take the masses of the rookies that were drafted this draft really sucked for them. Yes. Like. All the players that I thought had a real chance break they went to just piss poor situations where it's like that's really not where I want him going and everybody I didn't like was like, oh, no. That's a really good spot. Yeah. Look at you. David montgomery. Yeah. It'll be very interesting because you know, like, I don't know if there's as much excitement around rookie dress. I mean, we did two of them today into a remainder leagues. We started them. There's a sense that there are couple of names to kill Harry and Josh Jacobs that you're kind of sure about what's going on. But then there's this muddied middle where you know, guys will emerge, but there's just not a lot to go on. Yeah. I have Kyla Murray rings very high in my for rookie drafts in generally speaking that does not happen with with a quarterback because guys are just in such bad situations. All right. It's time to move onto the NFC east. Brooks your Cowboys. Cowboys didn't do a lot on the office of side of the ball at all a couple of handcuffs. Tony Pollard at a Memphis running back and seventh-round running back as well. What's funny is gonna be the winners are are Michael Galvin Randall Cobb because you have invested third fourth fifth round pick on a wide receiver to compete on the outside with Amari Cooper Gallup in Cobb didn't do it. So like for instance, if this is if if the Cowboys drafted Andy Isabella Raina com is is looking troubled. So. I was gonna say what's funny is I like, Mike Weber more. The like their seventh round running back more than Tony Pollard. Like that'll be very interesting to see who actually ends up as Ezekiel's direct. Hang rectal handcuffing, his backup. I mean draft capital says that things are very very against Weber from Ohio State. But that's that's who I think it is right now and Pollard. He's everything I've seen about him is he's actually kick return. He's gonna immediately be are starting kick returner. It seems like that's what they drafted him for. Yeah. I mean, you know, the handcuff I'm not worried in redraft league. No. But we're talking rookie drafts. Like that's important for for you to have if you have Zeke in the way that the Cowboys around rookie pick. Yeah. You just get you'd wanna be targeting the I would. And would you go so far as to say, you believe Weber will be that guy? Right. I do think he will be. All right. The New York Giants the football giants. The Daniel Jones giants look. Hey. There was den teams that wanted Daniel Joe, it's me Dave look Daniel head. Did you have to see the meaning three years me? Dave. Yeah. That was great to Dave got him in talking about the fact that they could take the model of him sitting three years. Do they know how old the manning is? Here's the funny thing is somebody said, the Daniel Jones looks exactly like such a good tweets actually, like a person cast to play lamenting in a movie. Yes. It's so good. And so Dana Jones goes number six. I don't blame. I get them. Get a lot of crap. Yeah. But if that's actually the guy that you want, and you think it's your franchise trade down. No. Because somebody could I mean, look if you act deemed if you actually believe it you have to take that guy. I don't I don't blame him for that. I blame for scouting. I don't agree that he's the guy. Well, but he's also a relevant. I think he plays the second half of this year. I do because we'll be winless at that point. Right. Exactly. But for fantasy purposes he's Brooks put in Daniel Jones's agent as a winner from the draft sterling shepherd is a winner from the drag. Yeah, you know, you had how many picks in this draft three first rounders to fifth rounders, and you didn't invest in a wide receiver until the fifth. Frown Shepard got paid. And now he didn't get. The supplanted by any of that top in talent. You could argue the same for Evan Ingram. You know, the the fact that the splits with everything room with and without Oto Beckham have been really good for him. My my worry here Tate. Actually, I do think that Daniel Jones gets on the field. So I'm not I'm not I'm not ever worried too much about second half the season. When I'm in a redraft. I'm looking much more how we're gonna get out of the gate, but if Daniel Jones comes in it's it's to me for sure bad for all pass catcher. So I don't see this is a pure win for sterling shepherd and Evan Ingraham. If it turns out that their team is worse. And then they get a rookie quarterback midway through the season. Now Brooks if you if you were playing ally like you plan this year as your dynasty starter. He's a loser in this draft as well. Okay. Dang it. Yeah. All right. So excited to play them. I'm excited. Talk about the Philadelphia Eagles because despite having only five picks in this draft. There's a lot of fantasy implication, just second round mile Sanders. Penn State running back one of the highest recruited running backs as he headed independence day was the backup saquon. Mile Sanders in the second round says we're not going to rest on the Jordan Howard, fifth round exchange were looking for a three down guy for multiple years mile Sanders. And then in the later of what four picks later, they traded up for JJ or Sega Whiteside, sir. Wide receiver out of Stanford. Makes Carson Winston winner to me you get you Hartson wins a couple of weapons. Mile Sanders lanes in pretty good home. I mean, look the first pick you take a one of the best pass blocking offense of taxes in the draft. The second pick you draft a running back that can catch passes at Penn State. The third pick you draft Sega Genesis. And you got another great weapon who's kind of canal, Sean Jeffrey comp in the jump ball. Touchdown tight type of player. And so I think Carson Wentz is a is a huge winner in this draft out. That was when I was watching the draft every pick. I just kept thinking, man. That's that's good for wins. Oh, that's good for once. Yeah. I don't disagree. Jordan Howard was a loser for fantasy owners that you bought into him being traded to Philly the way I would break down right now is and I'm I one of my nice Elise. Jordan Howard, owner drafted mile Sanders with the third pick in the rookie draft today. And I know in my heart that this. This is gonna suck because mile Sanders. I think we'll see a lot of work. And I think Jordan Howard will steal a lot of touchdowns. And I think I'm gonna be displeased. Now, it's very possible. Jordan Howard, m is he in the final year of his deal. Yes. So this is a rent. That's a situation where this is why I rank mile Sanders ahead of David Montgomery, which I know you guys are the opposite. But I one of the reasons is I feel like the Philly offense. Doug Peterson Carson Wentz starting next year's mile Sanders. Mile Sanders could have earned himself very strong three down role. Do you disagree with that possibility? I disagree with the possibility of three down in the sense that they're such a committee, and they're so committed to not using one single back. But I think they could work themselves down to being to backs, and, you know, this is more than Dighton in my view of and you knew this before the draft and before they got Jordan Howard how much they wanted to upgrade their running. Position they were not happy with the Corey Clement window Smallwood Josh Adams, trifecta of guys off the street. They said we've got you know, they didn't trade much for Jordan Howard, who's a quality running back. And then they use the capital that they had to grab another quality running back. I I think the offense is better. But I think it's gonna be a to me and show to there'd be an upgrade though. Yes. The problem with the eagles has been three four guys at the same time. Yeah. I think that's why they invested in Sanders specifically because he has a more diverse skillset than other guys that they've had slotted in. And like you said last year was tough to watch Clement never did it. Josh Adams, flashed me little bits here. And there let's talk about the Redskins. The Redskins grabbed Dwayne Haskins at fifteen the grab a wide receiver. Mclaren at the twelfth pick of the third round. Another running back Bryce love in the fourth round who they expect to be backed by middle of training camp. Bryce love bracelet. Probably. Have gone gone a year ago. Second rails Eck in bro. Yeah. You heard himself staying at school. Well, grade school kids, you're hurting yourself. Yeah. Exactly. This is. Interesting to me that they have dairy guys who they I mean, they invested very very highly Darius guys, and I know he got hurt. But your plan is okay. Let's let's make sure we have insurance for our hurt guy with the Hertz value value. The reality is the insurance for near his guys Adrian Peterson the insurance for critter Thompson, the injured guy was the injured guy. So they've got three injured guys. Eighty three inch Guidi guys equal one healthy. Right. Ski- smart move. You just voltron. Here's the truth though. This is not to me, you try to read the tea leaves here. Fourth-round early fourth round pick on Bryce love. It just goes to reinforce the the the news the percolating. Rumors of dairies Geis's, very slow development back from injury. Only a few days ago. You got another report that he is moving slowly through this. This is why what if they done. Here's their confidence level in various guises return for fantasy owners let's pay Adrian Peterson. Let's draft Bryce love in the fourth round. That's all we have. So I would not be enthusiastic for this offense one that is currently led by some either Haskins or keenum or Cole McCoy with three different running backs with a myriad of kind of wide receivers. We don't know who's gonna emerge. This offense is going to struggle. That is my concern. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not I'm not happy. Who's the the losers? Washington Redskins for for the immediate future. Tosh Johnston over the long run. You know, if doing Haskins pans out. Out if you know, he's the guy and Geiss gets healthy and Bryce love gets healthy. And you could have something down the line. I didn't love what they did at wide receiver. They needed help drafted one. But not now your favorite not in my top fifteen. Who starts week one for Washington. Quarterback keenum punter, Mike. I don't know maybe maybe running back. There's a lot of questions for any ball team who starts quarterback Haskins. Who did you say J? I said keenum break tie good McCoy, Dwayne Haskins joined Haskins playing for his life gruden's plan for his life. Yes. All right. The bears the bears only at five picks in this draft. But we got to talk about here, boys. David montgomery. None of us were huge Montgomery fans. I am now. Third round. I've said this so many times before I will take opportunity over talent one hundred out of one hundred times. And that's not say, David, Montgomery isn't talented. But just right before the draft. I talked about I don't see what a lot of other people. See, I know he's well rounded it can do a little bit of everything a lot of had in my notes that if a team were to invest heavily in him. I think he would be great. And I don't think team's going to do that team did that because similar what you bringing up with you know, other teams trading up, and they didn't have. Their first pick though, the bears were they had interview. After interview after interview with all the running next multiple interviews with the same guys, they clearly were showing their hands at they were looking at a running back except they didn't have enough picks. Like, they didn't have they had. So few picks in the draft that I did not think they were going to be able to do it. And then they used extra to trade up to get David Montgomery who has then been given the Kareem hunt comp by Nagy who used cream hunt as a well rounded back, and I think I think Montgomery comes in right off the bat with two hundred and fifty touches. And is the main it doesn't matter what we think about them before if Matt Nagy thinks, he's everything exactly. And that's. Yeah. No. He has a great opportunity in Chicago. You know, they jettison. Jordan Howard, wasn't a fit David Montgomery. They feel like is a fit current regime. Mike Davis that was phone. The big loser. Malcolm Brown, those of your offseason losers. Those those guys on that fringe, right? Chris Warren member when we talked about Kris Warren in Oakland. I tried to forget about it one. Isaiah Crowell and one Josh Jacobs later and Chris Warren, don't even just drop. Yeah. Well, if you're in a super deep dynasty league, also drop it. You know, what I'm gonna do? Oh, you you've got him on your team. I'm gonna drop them on air. Oh, guess lot. Warren debt is a rage drop because you can't even pick an right? That's right. I'm gonna take care of that. Ok picking up Chris Morin. Go ahead. But no, that's the reality of the draft. If you if you are investing in a low, I mean, this white wideouts to, you know, Jake Coomer, oh, all the dynasty rage. But if Green Bay drafted three or four White House that you wouldn't have drive capital matters. That's why it was incredibly sad to see two of my lower to your back that I liked I knew it was I knew it was tougher for them. But Alex Barnes and air booby Williams were both undrafted. I just bro. I do want to confirm that. I just verified he did. In fact, drop Chris Warren, he has been dropped. I have cannot leave Kaga that asking the question that maybe should have kind of been part of the Gumri discussion to begin with. Toroc right. What happens to Cohen because Cohen had this seemingly big opportunity. Jason you just said David Montgomery has two hundred fifty touches those do not compute. I think I think they I think they can't compute. I mean, I I actually started them out already. And if you look Tariq is not a guy who gets a ton of carries. And so he's the guy that's going to be getting you know, a hundred hundred and fifty carries and then used in the passing game. I think he'll be about what he was last year which was serviceable at times disappointing at times. But I do think David Montgomery will be the predominant guy in the timeshare. Yeah. I agree code will be okay. But. Montgomery is gonna be great. All right. Let's talk about the Detroit Lions use their first round pick. Right. Where I thought they would TJ hockey. And by the way, we didn't even update that note. Nothing nothing to look yet. He see here. I actually won are our rookie predictions. I have four correct. You guys had to each. So if you add your scores up together you tied me. Yeah. That was only on the back of Dave Gettleman. I hope you're happy with yourself. It's me if Dave Gettleman had drafted Josh Allen, clearly who should have drafted a number six, then TJ hawks would have gone to the Jags at seven where I am going. But then they're like sin. Allen's here sim butts Candian. So we're tied at three and three in my world. Right. Yeah. Your world is always very Jason favored. Yes. It is teaching hawk consent to Detroit o. It was breaking news about that. He's expected to be the started week one. Yeah. He is the number of NFL draft expected to be used right off the bat. You know, even that needs tighthead. That's good. He good blocker. And such a good pass catcher who will be an immediate weapon on an offense that needs them. He will also be an an asset to carry on Johnson. Who I think is another winner in this graph? It's a great blocking tight end. And didn't have another running back drafted the year of carry on get ready. Wow. A year prepare yourselves. Okay. All right Perry on about my guys. Don't you do? Oh, dude. It's Andy's guide. I heard it even Brooks. I would look Jesse James who was an offseason pickup. That's he's a big loser. In detroit. Otherwise, you know, you could make the argument that they didn't do a lot else to to address the passing game. Bohol concern is a big one and from a dynasty perspective. I think he's a very valuable. He's tied in dynasty. He's already talked to twenty. Yeah. I I have like eight or nine. Yeah. You you could argue Marvin Jones is a winner here because getting out there on on used early capital on one of these water Cevers he could start looking like he's being shown the door. All right. Let's get to Green Bay Green Bay. Well, not a lot to look at. They did spend a third round pick. They were one of the teams rumored to need a tight end. Maybe in the know Olea sweepstakes needed one last year. And they got Mary Steenburgen is who it was. Hand that Jay Stein doing that to jas. Tell him Steiner is Steinbrenner member the owner of the third round pick out jas stern burger, do we think that he will have some relevance running back. Dexter williams. Also drafted in the six round stern burger will not this year. But I think Sternberg is a good player, and he'll be Toby serviceable. Yeah. Once they realized that Jimmy Graham, just let him off to pasture. I think they realize that I think that's why they were. So I mean between Hogson and Fant they most mock dress had them taking tight end because they completely realized they realized that I mean, they Jimmy Graham is not the answer at tight in. And they need an answer. You're right to point out that you know, it's going to take a couple years for stern burger he's not he's not gonna come in rookie or Donald burger. And so yeah. But in a dynasty league, whatever I think, you know, he'll be in the third row. Round, you know, a late guy that I think you could hold onto stash for couple years starnberger will start next year. Jimmy Graham will be going. I can only hope for the what a burger nickname. I want that in their how what a what a catch. What a burger come on. Okay. What? It's there. We'll work through. Yeah. We've got time. We gotta wait until he claimed broil. Yeah. Yes. To earn. It like Disney did. Oh, goodness. Big montana. He came out of nowhere got himself nickname. That's all I'm saying. All right. If your name is Ron Wilson Marquez Valdez scaling echinacea Brown. They didn't go get another big wide receiver. I was surprised the robber -tunities for Green Bay to do that. And they didn't. And the reason they did not do that is because they're fine there. I mean, they they've got a good up and coming core of wide receivers. I think that the the biggest winner to me of those up and coming players is going to be drama, Alison, I leave. He's very talented. He's got a great report there in Rogers Aaron Rodgers loves them. He was off to hot start in the beginning of last year with him until the injury. They didn't go out and replace any of the wide receivers. So all of them all of them are big winners in this year's draft because they get another year with Rogers to step into the offense. But I think Allison's guy I'm most excited about I the Minnesota Vikings sound the alarms. Colorado's time may become into a close. It irv. Smith junior second round tight end draft at I Alabama by the Vikings. That's kind of the headline there. There was they did draft. Alexander Alexander, Madison. This is in this is legit he handcuffed for cook. This this is something you need to pay attention to if I have Dalvand cook who is thus far showed himself very prone to getting hurt. Alex Alexander Madison would be a primary target for me. I would expect you don't have to pay a huge price for him. But back in the second round, you're gonna wanna think about it. He's he's from Boise state. I really liked them. I really really liked Madison. He won me over by the end because he can do everything. And I think that he's one of those just super tough dudes who if given the if Delvin cook went down, Alex, everyone would freak out for Alexander, Madison. So just make sure. Sure, you're prepared. I would I would throw out that he could he could have relevance. He's not just strictly hand Latinas Murray had relevance there. Even when Delvin cook was there. So he you know, if they timeshare at all or use him, you know around the goal line. I don't expect them. I don't expect him to be a star certainly not with cook. But he could be relevant. He's one of those guys you could draft as a handcuff because he could be an option in your flex later. But I think the big winner here in Minnesota's clearly Kirk cousins you spend your first four picks on offense. You get a center you get a guard. And you get a tight end protecting the line and the tight end in Smith is a great downfield weapon. If he gets spend all that money on those wideouts better have a quarterback that's upright to throat to them Atlanta. Let's talk about Atlanta. They interesting draft. Matt Ryan looks like a winner for the same reason. Kirk cousins is guard tackle I two picks in the first round in the first round. Yeah. You could also say devante Freeman winner. No high investment on another running back. You got ITO Smith and devante Freeman. It will be it will be Freeman ITO Smith. And these are some good lime in in my opinion that they drafted this is a huge huge sign of confidence in. Devante Freeman by the Atlanta Falcons. So I I'm not necessarily gonna move Freeman up. But just solidifies take it breath solidifies the offseason feelings of that the team is already fully invested him. They don't need to move L move on. And they're not I ring Quadri Alison running back taking he gives me a little bit of pause from calling Ito's Smith a winner because he could come in and like ITO Smith. I mean, make no mistake. He could be okay. But he sucked. He was terrible last year. He was very big this point for the falcons that go out and draft the running back. I mean, you need it to for depth. But my point is believe he can come in and just win that job and be the backup. So I. I don't see this as a huge win for ITO. But definitely devante Freeman. And Matt Ryan, I mean, I know we've had some arguments over where Matt Ryan should finish. But so far the last couple of weeks have gone really well for him with the schedule coming out the domes that he's playing in. Now, the offensive line two first rounders on the offensive line, which was very necessary. Those things are just good for the whole offense. The Carolina Panthers winners and losers to me. The big winners on this roster DJ Morin, courtesy mule, courtesy emails probably the biggest winner of the mall because he has an opportunity to stay at the wide receiver to position. And he is a very explosive player in limited touches, courtesy him fantasy relevance last year. I think he may be one of those sleeper type of guys it ends up in our ultimate draft yet. Because. Someone has to catch the ball. They're Devin funchess is gone and can't just be Christian McCaffrey. And if you just DJ more you'd better move him up rankings because more Samuel McCaffrey that's going to be their offense. No, I I agree completely Samuel is a great sleeper option. I would if you're out there. Go try trait from in six I think a lot of people even the have Samuel don't realize how good he was last year, which was essentially his rookie year, if he becomes the one I wouldn't wouldn't expect that, but I certainly would not be surprised if he becomes a primary target as opposed EJ more last season. He had five touchdowns five hundred dollars saving on forty receptions, and has a an opportunity to level up and hold courtesy Mulas twelve. Is twenty two years old possible DJ Morris twenty two years old? So they've got to was it August the DJ Moore's older now he's not here to San moulder by half year. But I mean, you've got to super young studs in. If if. You know, if Cam Newton comes back with a with a shoulder in place, then there's an opportunity there. He is. He can turn turns Mets they aren't grabbed just undrafted. Real quick Elisa Holyfield from Georgia who is the son of Vander Holyfield is a son or is he I think he was like nephew or something. No, look, oh is it. Oh, is it? Okay. I did not realize who son must be a good punter. Your fish yourself, man. Just be a running back news. Got a good stuff. Are there? Actually did watch. No, no, Joe when when I was watching him I was watching for that. And he does he like punches with. I'm not even joking. He liked punches his stiff arm out, and I'd like this legal. No toke. It is for him. Yeah. All right. The New Orleans Saints New Orleans Saints only had five picks in this draft five. They did invest in a center they had to yes, they had to price retirement. So they did grab a center and Eric McCoy I would say the existing wide receiver core the people there they're winners. I don't know if do breezes a winner in this draft because I felt like they needed some help at the wide receiver position outside of Michael Thomas. You're gonna have to see I mean trick on Smith their counting on try taking a Ted Ginn. Yeah. He's still there. All right. Tampa Bay moving onto Tampa Bay. This was an interesting draft because it was entirely on defense, which has a lot of big winners. Fantasy a lot the fact that they did not at a bunch of wide receivers or quality running backs to this team says that guys like Chris Godwin huge winner here. They're saying we believe in you. Justin Watson you guys can get the job done yet. Another sleeper candidate Justin wants vacated a lot of targets with Humphries leaving with Sean Jackson leaving. And then look I know I've never been a fan of Ronald Jones, but they believe Ronald Jones payment Barbara can get the job done. Now. I'm gonna think it's Peyton barber. But the opportunity for Ronald Jones to step up is certainly there. Now, it is also important to note they drafted yet another place kicker. So the Aguayo days are over man, but they did spend a fifth round pick on Matt gave out of Utah. So these kickers if you go to Utah, and your kicker supplies to old is this guy thirty five you know, that this thing if he's twenty seven to twenty seven year old kickers. Drafted. I didn't know about this. When I was young. Extra five years refined your skills before you have to graduate, no age, given no problem Ford in his forty forty five. Okay. Yes. Still for rookie. I just talked about courtesy mule going into your threes. Twenty two years old winners and losers us actually market price. That's is a okay we talked about it wants Godwin Ronald Jones pain barber as well. Yes. And that does it for the NFC guys anybody. I'm forgetting anything you want to mention before we move on linen. For nets. Big winner. We haven't gone into that on Thursday. We will also announce the winners. 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