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Episode #1273: The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

1:04:00 hr | 3 years ago

Episode #1273: The New Phil Hendrie Show

"Famous fill every show Margaret, how you doing? I'm very good and we're looking forward. I am looking forward what you said looking, I'm sorry. You said your licking phone. I did not. Let's let people say what they wanna say. I heard the woman didn't hear me say any such thing. Thank you. I am looking forward to Bobbie Dooley and her little program on the radicalization of our young people at how she thinks she is going to stop that by that. Bobby duly coming up in the next half hour here on a world. Famous Phil Emery show. Our program is warning and Robert, how you doing. General has a feeling what feeling? How's your life has everything going? Oh, yeah, very, very good. Thank you. And. Pretty good. Of course, program is program is sponsored in part by fan, duel dot com. And if you haven't joined up at fan duel, you better get your act together, get your ass in gear and get motivated brother, you know on? Yeah. Get what a lot of money. 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Yeah, fan dulas paying out more than ten million dollars every single week, this NFL season. So you know, play man. If you play, you have a chance to win and sign up today. Go to fan dot com and click on the microphone in the upper right hand corner, use my code Hendry h. e. n. d. r. e. and sign up. Now new user specials are ending. Soon fan duel will match your first. Posit dollar up to two hundred dollars, but that's ending soon. Okay. Fan duel will match your first deposit dollar up to two hundred dollars. That's two hundred bucks free. The offer is good only for the first fifty people that use my code Henry. Don't forget to use my code Hendry h. e. d. r. a fan duel dot com. Where every week is a new season that's f. a. n. d. e. l. dot com. Sign up today. All right, anyway. Welcome back to the program. Was that one that's in this moment in this moment? That's Maria. Brink and the crew. All right. So we're, we're, we man, you're talking, but did you get up or what? What is this? We heard about gagging up? Yeah, I didn't gag up. Were you getting this man? Said you did. Couldn't bring last night. I was eating a piece of toast and it got lodged in my throat and I couldn't breathe all he, Jesus feel, you're kidding. No, I'm not kidding. So right. I mean, I lived, but you know, when you're when it's kind of a weird thing, man, if you've never been through that, if if you never been through the experience of trying to get a breath of air and all your hearing his like that, well, that happens to be in the summertime. Well, yeah, but that's your. That's your as my right? No, it is not my asthma. I have a very specific respiratory ailment that has to do with what Frank brought back from Southie nut southeast Asia. But from the southern Indian from the southern Asian continent, bring back, I don't want to go into it, but Frank brought back a Frank brought back a bacterium that what are you looking at now market? I've never heard this. I know that Frank has don't say it fill. We all know Frank has. Untreated gonorrhea doesn't. It's untreated gets you're right, but it is. It has gone narrow. As a result of that, he has gender confusion, but he also brought back a sub Asian bacterium that infected my bloodstream jusens bear what we, what the hell are you want about? You know, I'm not going to go into. Is that what causes your? What sounds like asthma? Yes. That causes the as MC stuffing serious. But when you say a sub Asian. This is not something this is not the end drama straighten for God's sake. What's that? It was a fictitious virus that was brought back from it was a book written by Michael, whatever the hell is name is Michael Crichton. Dighton is the that's not his name. Yes. Well, what is it Michael Crichton is that it. Mall, Michael them, Michael Crichton. Michael Crichton I thought was a cat's name that wrote Andromeda strain. You know, you call everybody a cat. This guy's not some beat Nick Senate gonna cafe scribbling poetry. I understand that. I understand that, but that's who I thought wrote Andromeda strain. So we're not talking about that. I understand, but you do have some respiratory ailment? Yes, doctor Henry. That's what I have a respiratory ailments that my understanding is is the result of infection from my husband who brought back from the southern Asian continent, a sub Indian bacterium strain, God. Oh, look at the racist Jesus fell. Everybody has it made me racist. You're all going. Love God. You're recording at the idea of someone walking around with a viral straight in their blood from some hot sweating sub truck. Sub-tropical sub-tropical, topical, sub-tropical, swamp, you know the way you just said that makes me think that even you would be shocked by that. No, I didn't hear that. Phil, I hear a man trying to understand your the one shocked by the sub-tropical strain that infects my blood and the humor's below my waist. All right. Thank you very, very much. I thank you very, very much. Very nice. Good of you to talk about that shit with us Margaret. Yeah. Well, the sub Indian strat. Okay. By the way Bulla for what it's worth is now no longer a big ass. Scary ass thing that's we're being told. We're also being told that still, you know, I mean, I gotta keep their eye on it, but turns out what was this bullshit? I just heard it turns somebody didn't have it down to that, like maybe one of the most here in the United States didn't had a bullet. Turn out his life. Yeah, probably just diary or something. Yeah, just diarrhea or something. Hell chain, a bad ham sandwich ADA bad ham sandwich, and we're running around here thinking that she had it Bulla. That was my understanding. Yes. Excuse me. I'm going to get some light ham. I avoiding it because of. Yeah. What are you laughing at? You know what? I'm laughing at. You have it anyway. Last night, speaking of stuff, we put an system so I was there and I couldn't breathe. And I, I'm wondering how to hell am I gonna start to breathe? Well, what? What did you do? Well, I realized that I could get here if I just started a slow my breathing down because I was trying to take in this this deep breath vari- like like that because you're trying to get as much as you can. You begin to panic a little bit, and that's the last thing to do. What you gotta do is slow it down man and get the, you'll get air if you slow the breathing, because as you're trying to bring it in really quickly, it's hitting that obstruction. Whereas if you bring the air in slowly, you're not forcing whatever is that is obstructing your windpipe back down the windpipe. So I started to do that and at the same time, as I got air into my loans by coughed as hard as I could to get this this, this thing to me, you know, not Misano. You told us one time a little sister was all token on something. What was that story about your sister Marianne? Well, my little sister had. Something caught in her throat. We were watching TV. I'll never forget, and I think we were. It was in the summertime and we were drinking kinda sodas with ice and Marianne got ice lodged in her. I had no idea it was going on. I'm watching this TV. I suddenly turn around and I see my sister get up and run into the kitchen and my mother's in there and my mother grabs her and turns upside down basically, and shook this ice out of her throat. That is the instinct of every mother that you see. That doesn't surprise that the the instinct of every mother fill is to immediately go into lockdown mode and begin to an and nothing is going to nothing is going to harm your child. You'll go into whatever mode you need to to save that child. Well, all right bucket, we thank you very much for the the movie of the week, but I'm trying to figure out general. Do you understand what goes to the mind of mother hold on market? I think everybody we understand. Okay. I'm just trying to be clear. I understand what goes. So your your, your daughter? My sister. This is when I was like eleven or ten. Your sister ran into the kitchen, ran into the kitchen where my mother was, and she made some. I don't know what she did. I'm watching TV. I turn around and somehow made it known to my mom that she had ice stuck in her throat, and my mother crab dirt turned her literally turned her upside down. That was the first thing my mother taught to do. I don't know if my mom did know anything about Heimlich or any of that other stuff. We agree. You know, you squeeze someone's ribcage. We'll go with call. Yes called Lynn. And you're, you're not allowed to you. You gotta squeeze a purse Heimlich. Heimlich. Yeah. The Heimlich maneuver yet a highlight renew ver ver Denver. It's called Heimlich maneuver. Not remover you two guys are. Are you serious? Are you put me on with just how empty headed you are? The hold on. Hold on, hold on the handling maneuvers. So my mother didn't do that. I don't know whether they were teaching it back thing. Heimlich maneuver became very much a part of the popular culture through a lot of humor as as evidenced by JIMBO John Belushi you know, all that, oh God, the Elizabeth Taylor, oh God, that was that was absolutely hysterical Nowaday. Oh Jesus. When Elizabeth Taylor gave herself the Heimlich. Yeah. Yeah. Or whether it was was well known in summer is not an others. But what my mother did was she simply went into. Yeah, like you were saying Margaret into mom mode. You know, how do I save my child? So she grabbed mary-anne, turned upside down and literally just shook that ice right out of her throat. Well, I didn't have anybody to pick my ass up last night trick. I mean, no offense. What a way to about. I got it. I know I would have weighed too much, but. So did you try to stand on your own head? No. What I did was is I just leaned over as a gut. These these big deep lungfuls air leaned over and I just coughed. You know, I just coughed as hard as I could, and then I would take another slow breath air and keep coughing. I could tell that I was dislodging something in my throat because it was like I said, how difficult is bred even if it's toast, how difficult is it to get it out of your throat? So just enough of that made it happen. Bow tie there was that period there and it only lasted maybe a few seconds where I'm thinking, Jesus Christ. I'm gonna have to get in the car and drive myself to the hospital. You know. That's what that was. My immediate thought. Well, why not call it? Hamlets never heard to me. Never even occurred to me. I don't think I could do that because but have been sitting around, they're not being able to breathe waiting for an ambulance. I, I would rather get in the car and just drive it. What if you started gagging up in the car and you couldn't breathe and you're going. Got. I mean, I'm the memory the the sensory memories coming back to me if I don't know what that would have been my instinct to get in the carton and drive to the hospital, but it didn't have to. I didn't have to. It didn't have to. We didn't have to and we have to. I didn't have to. Okay, and it's all good Bubby Dooley's going to join us to talk about this this another panic session. I guess this is a people worried about whether or not they have to go, you know, take take a leash or something or put on some kind of a pair of handcuffs on their kids and keep them from what he looking at. Wait for you to spit this out. You know, in other words, what do we do of with our kids if they want to go to the Middle East and join ISIS and be a bunch of assholes for a living, you know, very well said, thank you ninety. Keep your kid from being an asshole for a living with ISIS because there were three little teenage girls that got intercepted in Europe. They were on their way to become ISIS fighters, man, I don't know. I don't know what that about. Found really trivial. Pickiness on traffic watch forces point was going on how you doing. Good here. We're talking about the private here on the roundout areas. Here was that we got a car. There's a couple of cars and the pair of cars out there. Man, they got married there to get married here in the fast lane, and I'll tell you what if you on the south side and that freaky and for your repeat and there's a thirteen thirteen thing I detail, he'll thirteen okay. Seem you'll bore Chula thirteen year old. That's fantastic. Bobby driven. Mickey traffic. Whenever I'd say John just out to you. Thought they buried my God. What is this? This is slip dot and Custer white. Now. Those general Custer. Shelley, an English. That goal accents fired up, CLYDE waiting for them, butters man. Me. Back here, the world famous fill Henry show. Remember that on the twenty ninth of October are one man show, and that is a world of the will of Henry truth is our bitch. That's of the twenty ninth and it's going to be happening at the Ontario improv. Now, the other thing I wanted to mention you guys is on Saturday night while I already did. I say, well, I don't think you've fully fleshed it out. Saturday night will be a part of a drunk history presentation at the festival supreme, and we will. What I would do is just watch your local. You know, here in the Los Angeles area, look for announcements as to the various venues. This is the Jack black sponsored, or I should say, the Jack black coordinated. Jack black created festival supreme. Now, I don't know who's sponsoring it. I imagined they've gotten all of the beer companies and why do you impair companies? Well, you look at Jack black and you're. Thinking, and this is no fence to Mr. black if he's listening, but. When one looks at you? Mr. black one is thinking, let's get the beer get, get a beer company. We'll get a beer company because that's the credibility Europe stay on that. This is credibility. The credentialing and the credibility of the sponsorship I think is enhanced. You know, that was one look at Jack black. I didn't put it that way general. That's one look at black chat or flip. Got one look at Jack black, you're saying and a beer companies. Credibility is enhanced. What's the big deal with that? So what? All right, nothing. I don't know who's sponsoring the the, what do you call it? The festival. So. What do you, but Doug. Get watch at blackjack will be. Get off with the blackjack is name is Jack black anyway, the festival supreme, and it'll be a part of drunk history presentation on Saturday night. Then something that's very important to understand into to to know. I don't know. It's fun. Do whatever you want do what you wish as you wish, but. Our show on the twenty ninth at the improv is likely to be our last for a period of time because we've entered into the development of a TV project which is going to be taking a lot of my time. We'll be doing the podcast. We'll be doing that. And I ain't got a whole lot of time for much. Oh yeah. I gotta make the announcement lot slowdown. Now, what are you saying? But you do have to make the announcement of f- for family? Yeah, I'll make an about for family, which is the Bill birthing. Wait, hold on. We have known about you, but going off to an funny voices. What's this thing you're saying? I'm saying on the twenty ninth of October, come out and see us at the improv because that is likely to be the last show we will be doing for awhile. And the only reason why I'm saying that is because we're going to be up to our asses in in work over the next three months. I mean, we have got a good ninety days ahead of us of churning out what we need to turn out for this particular project. They're going to be working on. So. Be advised that the twenty ninth of October, I doubt seriously, whether you're going to where we're gonna be on stage anytime over the three months after that. Now, yes, we'll continue doing one man shows, but for a lengthy period of time we will not. And if you wanna come see the show, I would suggest you come see it on the twenty ninth of October there at the improv know what on efforts for family. All right. Let's let's hold off f for family is a animated series about the life and times of the great comic Bill Burr and we'll tell you a little bit more about that. Feel that's not fair. People are gonna wanna hear about this. We'll tell them a little bit more about that as we continue here this morning. But first Bobby Dooley's patiently waiting on the line and MS Dili's with her husband, Steve duly. They are off to attend a couple of parent conferences there in the San Fernando Valley in a very pleasant good morning to you. Bobby. And Mr. Dooley. Mister Dooley might might have been Steve PM. What is your concern as we've heard these stories of not only western fighters per se, going western individuals, people from the the west people from Europe, people from the north of North America going to join ISIS in this jihad. What is your reaction now to information? We have the young people, and we've just had these three girls intercepted in Europe, very concerned, Jill Tonette extent for having eight meeting. And this will be a series of parent encounters either one on one with parents. We will be having there will be no teachers involved. We're not going to have any any clergy when twenty have any law enforcement. We really want to get one on one as parents with each other, and we want to ask some fundamental questions. Number one, are we prepared to do what we've got to do to get get the kid to keep the kids back. You know, to do what I gotta do to keep my kid. And that's that's very important. Number two, do we have the courage to say to each other? I gotta do what I gotta do and silver on her. We now to one of those needing. Do you have the courage to do what you gotta do? What I mean is I don't know what the purpose of your question is. I'm always suspicious market. I know you are suspicious of me. I'm asking this with great honesty. All right ladies. Don't get into pleased on your speaking very nicely right now. I wanna know which she, you know what I'm up to. No, I'm not updating thing. I didn't have to. I want another particularly question. My question is, what do you mean about do what you've got to do? Because I'm concerned while the fourteen year old. All right. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to upset. You. Margaret. We all apologized to the extent that you're upset by this and I didn't mean to raise my voice. What? What when you say do what you gotta do? It means lay down your life for your child. Right? I would think that that's what the team. Well, all right. I think that that's a very, very traffic. That's a very, very drastic thing to say. We're not looking for parents later lifestyle. We are simply saying. But is true. You would lay your life down for the kid when you what do you mean my life down for the kid. I'm sorry, you lay your lifetime for your kid. When you leave the play, the life that we life you talking about Lee, your life down for your kid, you would sacrifice your life for your time. Would you don't know that it's something that you miss grey and I don't mean this. We're fail or anyone. I don't know something that you direct. I'm not saying I directed my name is Margaret. If you want, you don't have to call me MS grey and everybody else gets the first name treatment. I'm doing it out of respect and be respectful. All we were trying to do. All right. So again, the question is up standing, don't you? Wouldn't you lay your life down for your child? Out the question you just asked there, don't I lay my life down for my child. I never have the quiz. No MS MS duly. The question is wouldn't you lay your life down for your child? I understand that. But. But baba get. But margarite. Margaret, doing no market pain, Margaret gray, gray, your body. Oh, wow. This is getting very crazy. I I am. I'm being hit and peppered with a lot of question pan cure, asking me what let me take this over. Please MS duly. Oh, you're going to take it over if you're gonna make our Phipps and they feel the question. I don't know where it's coming from day. One nowhere come from all kind of. The question is, wouldn't you lay your life down for your child? Let's let's expand the question. Let's let's expand the area that the question would cover. Would you Nutley your life down for your child if you knew that that child was being actively recruited for g hod by one of these terrorist organizations? I think that and that is a question that that got question boils down. That is a very question, and I think you for that. All right. What's the answer? What is the answer? I eighty my answer. Like don't pressure. My wife run, wait a one on one face face and what you do, what you gotta do this to do. Duly you are a wonderful man. I'm sure very good father. But again, when you speak, it comes out in in half sentences. Quarter sentences, the men sick Witters. Know I, I agree. Don't cut my husband duly. He has a different phone. Hang on your head, Steve duly, you know, down your head, Tom Dooley. Whatever, you know, I mean, if you don't know your history. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. I'm not gonna. Hang down your head. Tom Dooley was a song that was based upon a real occurrence after the civil war, you're gonna get a whole history. You're gonna get a whole history. Phil, don't please don't don't get. Don't take us down memory lane. Now all the way to the civil war. If you're gonna take me down memory lane, take me some place where it's pleasant. I don't wanna go all the way back to a place with us about a thousand bodies, an open field gutted and stinking and all right. Come on. Will you general please. So forget about hang down your head, Tom, Dooley, but we're talking about here. Phil, no song is hang down your head, Steve duly, you're about to die. Got understanding. No, the song was hanged on your head, Tom Dooley poor boy, you're about to die. It was a folk song about a guy who came back from the civil war, a civil war soldier confederate soldier who finds that his girlfriend has been untrue. Andy kills her. Thank you very much. Phil, what is the problem with you anyway? What do you mean? What is the problem? I was trying to speak up on your behalf got caller bench and everything's yell at me that going to yell at you and don't call her back. She hung up on us very segment. I think it's important filled. This is a segment of what you do when your kids are going to go off to that, gee, had let me tell you, I'll tell you what I do is general we need some fantasy. What would you do? I'll tell you, I would. I seventy. I thought you stood opposed to eight when it comes to national defense, whether at this particular time I need your sanity. If one of my kids was being recruited for the g. head I've get on the phone with whoever that Turkey was, and I'd say Turkey, you better start running because by the time I get there all already have cut up on you by about one hundred and fifty thousand. All right, thank you. That was very clear think I thought I'd get some sanity. I am very beside myself with these turkeys and jive Funke's Dr Jack. Turkey Turkey, you hit the microphone. Did I really? I know I hit the microphone fill with by right hand because all I have to do is spell by hand. And I realize it smells like Deng because that's the one that Dickman speaking and do. You got that right, but don't applaud yourself being insulted, that's that's ridiculous. Oh. So now I don't know where we are. You talked about handgun behead, Steve duly dot. Oh my God, Clinton. Fifth. Yeah. You guys make me angry hanged on your head, Tom Dooley not Steve duly, Tom, Dooley. Your certain of that? Yes, I am. I'm not saying that was the guy's name. I'm just saying that that's how the folks on was written. Who knows what the guys name was. Maybe it was Tom Dooley. Newton pop out based on the war. It was based on a guy coming back from the civil war, confederate soldier who as many young men before and after him had returned from battle from a war and found that his young girlfriend lover fiancee's wife. I think it was his fiancee. Had taken up with another guy and Tom Dooley decides, you know, I'm I'm gonna kill. That's what he does. Well, then what did he die fought? He then he cared cancer, something right. Then he did what guy, Tom Dooley shot his girlfriend and went to Africa met right. Shot his girlfriend and went to Africa. How racist that gay making fun of a guy for going to Africa? No, I'm not making fun of the guy for going to Africa, not at all. Not at all. No, I just don't know what you guys are talking about. That's all you don't have to raise your voice. Well, I'm raising my voice. Okay. And we'll be back, get MS duly back on the line. We'll be back world-famous. Phil Emery show filigree show dot com where every day is just a walk in the park, man. I'm just digging. Fill every show. Mickey most here at Mickey. Most Chevrolet and tires come in get four tires brand new tires that will put on. We'll rotate even though we don't know what that means and put them on a Chevrolet. If you have a Chevrolet, we'll do it for free. If you don't buy the court first and then we put the tires on at Mickey Boesch, Chevrolet and tires. This this, this chick here, this Maria, brink. If she were my daughter or granddaughter, I would have the limits check very carefully if there was the off chance that we weren't related and then I'd marry it. I'm general Cayman Shaw. Guard his something. You should be taken out and beaten with a crowbar for what you just said. Thank you very much. Yeah. All right. Thanks very much you you whore you. All right. Got the anger in your voice toward the female gender, the female of the gender. All right. We have a couple of things uprating right now, one is Bobbie Dooley is going to be back on the line with us to talk about to talk to us about the threat to our young people being recruited by. But also we're going to find out and clear up the song hang down your head, Tom Dooley. It is not hang down your head, Steve duly you're about to die. It's Tom Dooley and Tom Dooley did not kill his girlfriend and then go to Africa to cure cancer. Thank you. Thank you. Famous pill Henry show the opus, if oh. On Margaret grey. All right. So MS duly? I, I'm very, very sorry duly if I confused you if I made you angry or whatever, but we were honestly trying to answer some questions. I understand. I know you're a lot at. I don't mean anything against the. But I think the questions fly so fast and furious that very difficult for thieving. You know, state. They don't track it. That's one thing I, I wanna say this the when I said, hang down your head. Steve Dooley. I wasn't necessarily referring to the song. I was referring to a conversation that we had last night about I three funds. Phil, I'm a mother of three and Margaret. I know you have a young boy. And I don't mean to upset you what what we feel is to protect our children. And so we're having the one on one we're going to. We're going to sit in chairs facing another parent and our knees will be touching. This is all part of the one on one gotta do what I gotta do therapy, and we'll stare into the eyes of these other parents. And as I myself say this, I hear in my voice almost a poetic Melissa inside here, the Britishness and I, I know now the tone that I will use when I addressed the parents at this particular confab it, we're about to go to. I'm going to say, let's get kneecap any him. Then let's talk about what we gotta do. Do. A little. I'm sorry. Bobby sensible pornographic. How are you? What do you mean? Will you're going to do? It's very breathy. It would. Yeah, I and I again, I find us getting sidetracked. You don't think of me. I'm doing and welcome to discussion the tuna. And again. Slur in the words a little bit, don't see the words slur then looked me up and down Steve. That is the problem that we have in common. There's a lot of guys that looked me up and down to all right. Then you know, I'm telling I would not recommend using that tone of voice. When you're talking to parents about their children being objected, they're going to think you're making fun of them. When you're standing up there and say, do when I got do you, what are you trying to be Marilyn Monroe or something. Now I'm trying to be anything else. I'm Bobby duly I watch on and up to have to be no Mela Monroe. No, I don't have to be no, Marilyn Monroe. So understand feel that what we're doing though, Marilyn Monroe. That's good. Well, I'm sorry, but I don't speak the king's English or the queen's English. I'm here because I care about my son. We all care about our children. We want to know Bobby, what is the actual program to keep these kids from becoming members of the the ISIS with the other one. Now the the envelope, the iphone? Yes, the Aycell will the pro I caught it if that's fine. You call it his soul and you call it. I still. So what's the program? Thank you very much for your time. Dan gun on my wife, Mike. They haven't hung up. I've thought you like that. No man talks to give. MS Dooley. You haven't hung up. You haven't hung up. I've been shared that we have. Oh, reusing rotary dial for. You put your finger in. Have you ever used one Mr. Henry? Have you ever used one mystery? Yes, I have. I have used one Gotti laughing at me. Bobby. We have like an asshole. Other days I do feel sorry for you fill today's one of those two people couldn't. They couldn't spit out what they wanna say. If you put the gun up their anus and said, okay, I'll spare your mouth, but I will blow your asshole off now. How do you feel about that? Apple skews me feel about that apple. Yes, I sing it for you. Dickman. You're so dumb. Everybody's pissed off and walk it out of the room. I, they're hanging up their walking out of the room hanging up walking out of the room. You know, it's almost as if my real life is playing out on my show at because in my life, I've, I've had a lot of that, you know, real interesting. Thank you. Can we get to the good stuff here about hang down the head. Steve duly? Okay. Hang down your head. Tom Dooley been. Excuse me. I've been doing some reading here. Okay. I came back just I wanna hear this. Get an app for the General Jerry cards cheese come out of your mouth. Well, I've been on say, don't you say it's like a point movie all watching, uh, help me God of bury you in cottage cheese didn't say, never get him a napkin. Boop. Thank you. Know this. Hang down the head. Hold on. I'm going to say it and I want anybody to talk who do we have? Okay, herb Sewell is a historical research is gonna join the show here and talk about exactly exactly what it was. I was trying to say with the Tom Dooley thing herbs, we'll joining us from his home. We're not really gonna. We're not really going to be talking to, you know, we're not going to be identifying, I should say where her is because that is a part of the agreement with the penal authorities. He's on parole and living at a halfway house. What what is is that music? I'm here there her. Herb, is that the music I'm hearing there. I'm not. Yes, good morning fail. I heard so have from from the. Location that is not day to be revealed right now. They've moved the roommate of mine and as for the time being either roommate, I did have a room to myself and they moved the roommate in good Jap. The older one who has had his fish troubles. I'm not that liberty to give you his name, but you can hear he's got his boom box on his radio with boombox right. This is a. So I'm here before I return to the MAC. So I said, you can keep it on otherwise, you know, you know that, I guess be violence, right? All right. So he knows, I guess, but I'd say, could keep this on. It's not distracting. You can hear the music. It's distracting be I'm sorry. But I said it's either that or we get into a fight and you know how fights with me and the man will be in five or six different trash bags. I'm trying to avoid that. Is that all right with you to say the way Margaret would say, I don't care. It's not distracting me. Heard the resort we called is because we wanted to ask you about Tom Dooley the legend of Tom Dooley and the saw song. Yes. All right. First of all, Tom Dooley. Tom Dooley, why don't don't don't don't don't let me guess was Steve duly on the phone. You got the hang down the hits Dewey, that will be very go. You get what you pay for that couples. Stephen, hang down your head, Steve duly, how I wish it was hanged out your head, Steve duly, how I wish it was Steve duly head was being slipped into that news that day as that song always being be repeated. I just I find it to be ironic to the point of sadness and tears that it wasn't Steve duly you had was going into the news. Do you understand what I'm saying? We understand you Celo home, mighty hit to the point about Tom Dooley. I'll get to the point about Tom Dooley. I'm sitting in a room now with a new roommate who has a history of violence himself, but nothing near mine and he's playing return of the make, and I've allowed him to play return of the Mack, but there's only so much that I can spend before I lose it. You're, you're welcome to lose it with me any day of the week. Disrespect you, you know, I'm trying to spit out what it is. They won't be the same at the same time. I've got this band playing this. That's that you gave him permission? Yeah, either that or I kill him God. So here is what I was saying. Tom Dooley was indeed fill is absolutely credit told me was a confederate Sylvia who left the ranks confederacy and made his way home on those fearful those fateful months that eighteen sixty five. Yeah, defeated army. They confederate army trudging home given their web, given their their mules horses and carts. They were not allowed to return home with their weapons, but they were allowed to return home. They were as they say pod forced to take the and back home. They went well, Tom Dooley returned home. Only the finest on say, was there you take it with another man. What did they see? Did she. See anything. I don't know if he saw anything, but what the speculate about a window he might have walked by a window and seeing yet something quite extraordinary heartbreaking. You might have walked by window and seeing people going at it, like animals on the couch in the living room, and he might have. I'm just, I'm just guessing. Yeah, he might have knocked on the door and said, it's Tom Dooley. Would you be interest? Whatever name was, it's your, it's your fiance, Tom Dooley, you know. And she might have said, oh my God, hold on. I've gotta get my panties on, you know. And that was probably the last straw. He probably pulled the ban that took the band off of his right to have a rifle, so it had to be as bare hands. He went in dispatched immediately her lover with a with a throttling throat. Then strangled her then through them both on Mark grave and was probably on his way out of town on the noon train when the thought is did catch up to him. So this is all speculation on your part. Yes, it's all speculation on my part similar seeing this is the actual that again, he's playing it again. That's. This guy that I got for you gotta meet this guy. What's your name? What what is your name. Go Kaba call. Oh. Cobb you like this cop. And what do you like about it to me? Yeah. Okay. Anyway. So where was I? This guys, your roommate? Yeah, this the guy they stuck me with. I said, look, it's fine. It's fine, but I'll kill him if he gets out of line, they said as a musical, right? I said the music fine. I can live with the music. Due to do you like to. All right, no problem doing that. You're talking about the one who joined cancer is a completely different, Tom Dooley. This is Dr Tom Dooley who indeed I wouldn't me Nobel prize, I think, for a piece or for love or tranquility or whatever they give out of this. I don't know the ads. So Tom duty, the duck day, he did indeed work with disadvantaged and of the medically needy in Africa. And Tom Dooley became a legendary name in the area of altruism and philanthropy and so forth. You see, Tom Dooley was a separate guy altogether, Tom Dooley the doctor from the civil war veteran completely different men to completely different man separated by almost a full century, but Tom Dooley of modern times. Indeed, the doctor and very great man in the work that he did for the knee d. Now, I, I don't know by that you question that's it. That's perfect. I, I had it all. Yeah, you had it all wrong there Beauregard you know, I know you can't because I'm here in your there. There I stuck my tongue out. That's what you've heard those me too. You did that to yourself how y'all idiocy and your dumb questions and the whole dumbness of your existence made me go to, and I try to keep very classy and very a dignified exterior through all of this. And you just made me go. So I feel like and I'm sitting in the same room with a mental deficient who's playing return of the MAC. So what if I got nothing, my life is one big fat zero. I'm looking at a road ahead of thank you very much had to hang up on you too, man. So we're, we're betting thousand here this morning. We'll be right back here in the world. Famous fill Henry, show Florida with a brand new one here. GDF are was sage the Gemini and and ludicrous thing. Lori to fill every she'll be right back. This is full Rita guy. You said you can't stand. I can't stand Florida, but he's got a couple of guys in here that I do. Well, what if Florida's listening to this? Sorry. Flo Rita. Sorry. Flow. Clo, just a. Bat, you think pfoa fake. Vanessa. Scott's been an. This piece Emo winning. Two board. Taking the Cobra Bugatti for real Cobra. Cole Bill stone, cold ice cream just in time for thanksgiving. You wouldn't think of eating ice cream during the coldest month of the year. Would you don't coal Bill stone ice cream as the ice cream. You need your require, you must live. You must have this scream. It isn't just for kicks. It's not just for dessert. You've gotta have it or die. Coal. That's why we call bills. Don't ice cream stone cold because that's what you'll be. If you don't eat it, don't collect cream, you'll die without. It is going down. And Katrina, Jim. Gina, TIs by limousine is say, is the mud plush man minus my team blowing on plant, make you cough. Bronchitis puts right. Shut up as you just told change the night and look at. That's not you're right. That was not ludicrous, look as, oh, it's look at the the misogyny and the Missa genie is remarkable on this program, but gene the missile. If you've heard the word misogyny, it's also the French pronounciation is missiles, Jeanie or missile Guinea. Oh, come on William. No, no, no, no, no, no, Phil, what. All right. Now that you've mocked me for the nine million time, are you kidding? No, I'm not kidding. No, I am not kidding missile. Jeanie or miss Michigan. Misini. You're missing? Genie, I didn't say MRs. Are you trying to f- with me loan that you said I said, are Margaret? We're done with the English English language lesson and the French language lesson for this morning, fine. You wanna walk through life dumb as as dumb as the day is long. You ahead, that's. That's how I think I'm like to do it. Great hatha. Yup. Okay, thank you. I'm gonna go through life, really stupid. Good for you. Thank you. I hope you know what you're doing. All right, Margaret. Thank you. Margaret, the guy's gotta move on. Okay, I understand that. But when I say that this show is very a high level of Michigan in the you know what? Now I said, now you sound stupid, but that's Mr. skews walk that one off Margaret. That's what I'm gonna. Do. Misset genie, definitely about about what. Like you missed the genie, you know you had to. You had one more free wish and the genie just left town. Well, how's that possible? Man if the genie's going back into a bottle, see, don't try to make sense of Henry. Okay. All right. The second game of the World Series was last night and the San Francisco Giants were returned to the planet earth. Not not as a willing participants in an aerial ballet. That soon came to an end and they floated to the earth very gently as a feather might. No, no. They were dropped out of the aircraft by the Kansas City Royals on their heads to the tune of a seven to two shellacking. Last night. There was a big big sixth-inning there by the Kansas City Royals, and it was ugly. As the day is long. It's sputtered at the start weighed down by a lopsided opener and slipshod moments it belts and gurgle for two nights giving off an exhaustive dullness dominance threatened to stall and disappoint until suddenly with allowed throaty roar. The one hundred tenth World Series kicked into gear and a head-spinning six. Any Wednesday night fastballs hunted at one hundred one miles per hour line drives his two and over fences. Benches emptied. And as the Kansas City Royals turned a cold, but it's hand Francisco Giants into a blubbering heap of bad decisions and gnarled relievers the fall classic sprung to life. Now we have ourselves a series so rights, Adam Kilgore for a the major league baseball website on the line with us from Kansas City is our very own Richie. Now, have we given Richie a new last name? Richie Richie gurgling salia, right. Yeah, Richie Gerg Lavinia okay. Richie gurgling Delia is I don't know where the hell that man came Richie. Greg Lavinia is joining us here on our newsmaker line from Kansas City Ritchie's doing a major league baseball coverage for this season and is of course that you finally stayed there in in Kansas City Ritchie and we're very happy to see that had to stay here because I recognize that the second game was still you're in Kansas City. So we turned around and made our way back to the hotel. So the second game with the giants suddenly succumbing to a brutal. Sanity an onslaught. The likes of which man on this planet has not seen in the sixth inning think man has seen this kind of on plot. All the the giants couldn't have been very much fun there in the thinning as the Kansas City Royals did indeed come to life fill and staff to a tie ballgame and and lunched into actually the the league with with the giants there that point three, two and launched in seventy and eventually did win this ball game. Last night. I don't know whether that was the actual Pinal score not I can look it up for you, but who cares? The game was a Kansas City Roya win, and it's been home, the faithful with spas, plastic costs there, midwest faces with their Cornfed. If I may say this fill with their corn, the corn setback, fried, wiggling up and down a little more heavily, a little more jolly. We saw the large band in the large women with very quick step, but it's not something you're going to see in the mid west with a lot of the large that you see on FIS and on the button. Kocsis the people. Gonna be treated to some adult conversation, gray. I'm pride to give it the way I got it. All right. I get fat and I get Wigley and that's why I'm giving it to you, whatever that means. Dory. Last night, the Kansas City Royals. Even this one. Now what happens fill in that? I think it was the sixth inning of the seven. It doesn't make any difference. The home run was hit off of the relievers stricklin. Now, one of the men on base breads came around third base, and as stricklin was talking to himself angrily yelling into his mid very upset that he'd given up this big Dinger to really open the ballgame threads coming around third base and heading home and looked over at Strickland as if to say, what are you? What does he do? You didn't say anything. Somebody looked at him wondering if the yelling was directed him. Well, no infected with done. But when strictly res- looking at him, Strickland been turned and looked at Perez and began shouting at him. What you had was. An argument that began with a complete understanding, but it really wasn't an argument, so much Strickland was the one that was yelling at thread. Yeah, I saw that and this guy Strickland. This kid looks like a guy that's got a real short views. He was pissed off all the way back to the dugout in the dugout. He looked like he was ready to rip somebody's head off. I think somebody finally said, get into the clubhouse get outta here. Yeah, that's that's how we thought to. But he did not stop talking to strictly talking to president, stop John, Jackson wolf, and Perez all through the rest of this amount appearance until finally, he was relegated to the dugout. Now it showed obviously the competitiveness of strict middle showed that the Kansas City Royals psychologically. If you will, broken the fan Francisco Giants last night has as you for the giants were over that big win in game one. That's how much of a trip back as you put it. Fill back to the planet heard this game was last night. So we're looking for the game three here at compensate him, and I think anything. Do you gotta go to Francisco? You got, yeah, you're going to San Francisco. Do you want to say, go ahead. I've I'm going to be up there by self Richie, but what is your last name out Richie Bougainville you Richie book go Goget Valia billion about it. We had to change Ritchie's last name from gun because Senate too much like Tim Gunn and people think you sound like Tim Gunn. It neither here there. I don't care whether I like him or not, but I do care about by name. The family name is Bougainville. You then, what did we change it to gun? You didn't change it? I did. Why you change it gun because the thermostat are you kidding gone? You know, what does this? All right. So we're gonna use your your your name. Got you. Let's spend the next ten minutes talking about my family. The last name is Bougainville. Alright, we come from a long line of gardeners. That'll would you fill the last name as Bougainville yet? We're flower growers. We were florists and gardeners and we did lawn jobs. We come from a long. You come from a long line of people do on jobs? Yes. That's right. That's funny. Oh, that's funny. I'm here reporting on the the World Series and then I'm coming home. Yeah, I've got to lunch. I gotta do this week. Why are you doing lunch jobs? You've got a job as a reporter because it expected of every Bougainville every male bougainvillea. What are you talking about? Why would you be doing that kind of work when you actually have a professional job as a reporter? I just got done telling, you know, because it's expected of every male Bougainville when it sounds stupid. Becky very much. I'm glad to hear that. My family's chosen profession doing one job found stupid at. I don't know why you're expected to keep doing Lon jobs when you have your own career as a reporter, but, hey, you know, hey is right. Okay. Got to LAN jobs in one of them is a customer of mine for the last four years long before ever start doing sports reporting. I'm mow that lawn, I gotta do an edging job and I'm done big deal how much to get for that. But I think I got fifty cents an hour. I've never raised the price. Oh, listen to this. Well, maybe we're doing breath check here. You've heard of that. I certainly gotten a whiff of the breath in that room. If that's Jemaine. I will. Thanks a lot Richie. Great talking to you. We're looking forward to game three. You're going to be in Kansas City. I'm coming back to San Francisco, I forgot. Okay. Would you get a cab? I, I'm telling I'm telling Gina, who's the assistant here? The hotel go get me a cat. If he can only a cat. And that's the oldest joke. Yeah. All right. So thanks a lot. Even. Call me a cab. You're a cab? Yeah, it's it's the, it's the oldest joke there is, and I guess they couldn't resist Gina if the assistant that they've assigned him to help him while he's reporting. So yeah, thank you very much. There Richie bougainvillea who is our baseball reporter of for the World Series. And as he said, and as we as we all saw last night, it was Kansas City jumping up off the mat, like almost like they'd never been down almost like it was well, you know, we lost the first game. I guess we've one too many consecutive games, how many games they won eight in a row. They'd one eight narrowed start ten the playoffs? Yes. So I guess they were do, but make no mistake about it man when they when they showed up last night ready to just slay, they put, they put it on San Francisco and made the made their case. And I think that writers correct. We got ourselves a series, especially the the bad blood that appeared to have been generated. Although I gotta tell you didn't look like today. Total did man's. He's yelling at his mitten. Another guy goes Lert. Nobody really full will what happened? Both this one guy on the mound study yelling as mitt. Gary started yelled his when he yelled at his met, what kind of a mental it? What kind of mental diseases that? Well, the guy was yelling. He had just given up a home run and he was screaming into his MIT, it's something pitchers. Do you see that a million times pitchers just start yelling into the glove, and and and that's what he was doing. He stocked around the mound during the the home run trot. And and I think there was how many runners on base three or something that that were running around the bags, and one of them was Perez and he was the catcher, and he looked to hear what it was. Strickland was yelling at Strickland happen to look over at Perez right at that moment and thought this guy is staring at me and wants to make something out of it and Peres's. What do you you know, I really feel it Strickland. Just went off the deep end there. Well, he was very upset about about throwing the pitch that that got the home run, right? Yes, he he was, but he he, you're right, Philly. Overreacted when he threw the pitch and that guy pres- looked at him, but I'll tell you what I would have been ready to tear someone's head clean off, just let the. What's the guy beat of BJ Eastwood you know, Clint Eastwood. Yeah, very, are high. Well, yeah. So we're looking forward to the return to San Francisco and the, you know what else is going to be happening, and it could be a whole holy hell of a lot. What guys are very, very grateful that you've joined us for our show this morning. We are going to take off early. We have business to attend to that will take up a good portion of the day, and so the commute and so the business. And so the return reminder get tickets for October twenty ninth show. It will be the last show for probably two to three months before we go back out live again. We're working on a television project. Oh, and Bill Burs f is for family is now officially launched by net flicks. I'm very happy to say that I'm a recurring player on that show. It's data mated show featuring Bill Burr the great comic Laura Dern just in. Long who is a hell of a nice guy and at the at the record session on Thursday or Tuesday was looking looking me up on the internet on his phone and asking me about where I was born, where I was raised my habits, my, you know, getting around, I think he was, but he's a funny, funny guy, nice guy, Justin long as we've got a lot of great cast members on that show Mojo Collins, Kevin Farley. So I, I do hope that you'll end who's the lady was much Joe was talking about, oh, you're talking about Haley Reinhart hilly. Reinhart is also on the in the Casto and Vince Vaughn is an executive producer so they got a, they got a star studded array of people there. And we're hopeful of course that you guys will make that a big, big, huge part of your Lovin and kissing and hugging, and squeezing and TV view in mob brother. All right. We'll see guys as I say tomorrow. Eight thirty for the pre show. Not. Clock for the regular show, world-famous, Phil Hendrie show, and Phil Henry shows that Cam. Oh, forget to listen to the download of the Phil Hendrie show podcast which follows shortly. We're famous fill every show is executive pass by Philly, four Inc. I Margrave. That's what I think of all of you at, especially. Daily. On your head, Steve Dooley. Bennett how I'm just living. Hey. Right. Hitless hor extend longest in extension court. Join playful. And if you not much you gotta Kishore. But about it shape which pocket what'd you spend in when you shop and why? Why you wanna go fix like you like shit popping. That's a model. Did you see movies they want for the camera. Yeah, wanna be Kim Kardashian hard. I was living compaction Louis. Oh, Gunnell type. Ben, this is the only thing that I'm not. You ain't got no life. Cubs swift. I say we do every night. Thrice. Got it. Money. So I spend a lot. I'm just living. And. Live right. Be near like sitting every night, push starting to wheel, brought a straight life, a life non could tell them out of sight. Oh, I don't check the price. 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"Hey phil hendrie for the world. Famous fill ratio website. The backstage pass remember by one. Have it for a month. have it for a year. Keep it close. It may be the only thing between you and offer isolation and sheer loneliness really but when you hug and keep close your bs. P you've got the warmth of human contact subscription show. Thanks a lot thank spot. I was trying to get something going here. Man you know every day doing the same promo. I got to think of an angle and this is the angle. Okay you and loneliness gonna hug it. What about him. So he's hugging it. So what i sort of see butts point. Naturally you would. naturally you would all my god. What does that felt. Just you know anything that editing the balls. The show up margaret. But it's us all go to help pay margaret no get a backstage pass to the world famous filling you. Thanks a lot but for now to say. Get a hunch. This assertion taught about hudson it just in a figurative sense man keeping it close keeping it near oh man at phil. Hendrie show dot com. Hi sports fans. It's the world famous. Phil hendrie show. And i'm the world famous phil hendrie and you're the world famous film show listeners and we have a world famous phillipi show for you today. General yes indeed. We do fell as his bobby. And steve duly visiting. This is by the way from may fourth two thousand eighteen and they talked about the hip new food. They buy their cats pepperidge farm. And the other cat's name is godzilla cheeses eight. It's general and what is this. What's his hand off stuff. He ended up to me. Go ahead general. You do it okay. And then jeff doubter is going to be on and he answers some unanswered walking dead and handmaid's tale questions today here on things here show you feel. You're doing handmaid's tale. Oh we'll look at who just came back. I said i want on it. Are you doing handmaid's tale. No we're replaying a show where jeff daughter answered some questions. I want to hear the. I'm very big and the handmaid's tale. Yeah but you are. What look at all those women getting beat up. Excuse me okay. Well by you guys. Don't understand what it's like. Walk into a room full of jokers like you every single day. Let's check this shit out. That's right. I said shit. How dare you feel talking about you. I'm talking about the show. This is from may fourth twenty eight ladies and gentlemen boys and girls sports fans of all ages the world famous felony show presenting body and steve duly jeff doubter. Yeah bobby billy. Let me just tell you something here before we get into this Body is going to be talking with us about her. It's a veterinary thing. It's it's a. What is it a a veterinary topic. We got a new discussion. His body has two cats insists. She's got a dog she she's got godzilla and pepperidge farm. They those are the cats all right. And then the dogs who felt dogs named does a big schnauzer godzilla general. How many have you had pets of. Of course we've got a warm reiner. Susie what what's wrong with that well. The point is people call their pets. A lot of different things don't they. I suppose so all right so we're gonna hung up on what she calls her pets so she's got pepperidge farm. That's the name of the cat. Don't get hung up on. It felt all right. Yes what did you get her on the line here before we go nuts. Bobbie dooley joining us. From western states homeowners association and is joined also with her husband. So bobby what you get some music playing there in the background mccaskey which he lied to me. We're just playing some music steaming. We did have some friends in And i think we're gonna. I think janice greely is going to be in later but so what happened with the cats. What happened was we took into our veterinarian. It's over here at western states veterinary clinic and we talked to dr a loser and he recommended. This prescription diet has question. Yeah certainly steamed. God's why did you think the cat counselor out that's the kitten. It's a little tiny kitchen. Oh so you mean the net a Interesting i interested now. Yes i'll do it. I'll do it steve. We named the kit in the kipton. Small a little small orange kid a little ball of fur and the first thing that came to my mind. Wisconsin You see a little kitten and you see a city just being burn burned it up. You know what's funny about that. Well obviously that's funny bobby. If you see a city being burned up when you see a little kitten the opposite came into my. Here's this little furball this little creature that you would protect with your own life. I think i'd give my life for god's ella and so i'm thinking well. Isn't that really comment on the world that we live in. And what is the opposite of that the opposite that is wanting cruel sadistic destruction by a a mutant you see and and got is the furthest thing from a mutant. You would ever find a cute little. I'm spending way too much experience to go starring up now. You better get to the point. Here okay dooley. I just had a couple of questions about that was blank mistake. It wasn't a mistake. They asked the question right. But my wife's tiring out. Now what are what are we on tonight for called mr dooley's buddy called us and wanted to talk about the cats and the visit veterinary clinic. My wife's got a Okay here's what i wanted to know. Fill out because i know you have a couple of cats to had a dog. A little chihuahua end up. You don't have to run it down for me but you to do the veterinarian over there. Dr booze learnt western students Veterinary clinic correct. Amenities prescription st. Would you turn that down. Listen to us with all of the guests on the show. They listen to the same record. I steve did you hear that she goes. You guys are out of control. It is not yet man. But it's gonna be soon enough all right. So where where we. You're gonna ask me what i know we've ever done. As you said. Dr boozer dr boozer recommended A diet of meat now. This is a subscription hypoallergenic. Because the animals. I noticed that Godsell ahead my god. She's laughing on the word diary. Got baby grow up. Just call eighty in front of elite people. Sit down no hitting yes sir. Can we get on with this so anyway. We took the kitten in to be any responsible pet owner. Would if you have a kid in there you have puppies. I'm sure all the folks out there no to take him in for their shots their vaccinations and they're not gonna lesions and also to you know take their blood pressure rectal exam. How dare you well. What do you mean blood pressure. Can you tell me your cat had split pressure taken that we have the arquette braise fourteen years old. She's old lady so she's got a lot of stuff happening with her. That i don't imagine a kitten has to be treated for a treat bentham. So what about what pressure. So what are you telling me what i had the doctor due to my cat so it it took. I mean he took it the doctor. Not a doctor. Boozer took the kittens. Bloodpressure rectal exam. You're saying that general my wife looks we're kind of think of it no. He didn't check the blood pressure. I just assumed you know because it's not really human examination anyway. The doctor said at the conclusion. Have you heard of the hypoallergenic diets. That are going around. And i said no. I haven't tell me he says everyone's doing it. And it's all the rage it's all the You know it's all the rage and i said well. What is it and he sort of teased me because the doctor knows that i'd like to be in and i like to do everything everyone else is doing. You know what. I don't know if i'm want to tell you. And this was all the rage ragent in well. I don't want to necessarily tell you. Bobby byrne daylight all right. It's the hypoallergenic foods. There are three kinds of meats. The cats off should be fit. That's best for them and it's very interesting steve. Isn't there the one i wanna do it. But just yeah it is very interesting so three meats and this probably has more to do with how animals vault where they lived before the became domesticated as you say The first one is rabbit it. The second one is duck in the third one is venison. Hey let me tell you my wife talk. I talked to the doctor dickman alright so venison what that's dear yes dear And ramat n duck and rabbit. Yes that is interesting and that is what veterinary medicine. Veterinary science has determined. Is the best possible. Yes it's the best possible food for a cat. And i said to the doctor that's interesting and he said we do have it and i would recommend He was talking now about. I had an older cat. And i said are we. Do we have pepperidge farm. And he said well. I don't know about Pepperidge farm he said it because he's got a big problem with pepperidge farm. The last time pepperidge farm was in the doctor. Dr boozer picked picked him up holding him and pepperidge farm. Marcus territory. In the doctor's arms urinated on the doctors dr spot yes. He peed on. What do you mean smart. That's the that's the name of long filthy. Where oh well get them all about. Yeah all right mark territory. So he's not a big fan of pepperidge farm but he did. She said you have a little older cat. And i said yeah he said well you know is that i don't want you to sit on him so what i was gonna suggest fill. Is you 'cause. I know you have breath and i know you have a thunder. Thunder was filled named thunder. It's a kitten. You know because. The kitten was spalding. Thunders big yeah well. He got his idea for me. 'cause we named our well no not exactly knows. A friend of mine was the one who named thunder. Okay she saw the kitten and immediately said you know it. It looks like this a thunder the same. You ripped off the henry. Oh you dirty. World-famous phil hendrie show. I got i got this. No i didn't rip anyone off only all right. Let's just let bygones be bygones in that. One she wasn't influenced by us. So then what. What all right so. The doctor wanted to test out this food. The hypoallergenic food on pepperidge farm. Yes didn't because they can't on his coat. Yes so that's why i said the doctor. I have a friend other broadcaster phil henry and he said who said and i explained the things that you do and you know we used to make up the voices and everybody would call in and he went and he just sort of stared right through me so i said let's move this along and i said mr henry has two cats I hope i didn't hurt. Your feelings are no no no not at all. No he's fun so anyway he said. Would you like to take a case for mr henry. And i said i certainly would or he could drive out here to get it. Well i mean to be honest with you. My wife's get that's very kind of you bobby. So that's a gift you have to pay for it. But i got the case and Would we get we got. We got the duck flavor. Okay is it duckers at flavored duck duck meat and there's denison as i said there is a rabbit. Well see the thing. Is we have a veterinarian. We have an animal hospital that we go to anna cap. I don't nothing negative. Just checking people so what man. Just checking any way that my doctor probably has that and they haven't recommended the brea. The old cat is on all kinds of stuff. Brand for instance is on. Yeah that that's nice about your cat we're talking about godzilla godzilla but we were talking about pepperidge farm so well pepperidge farm. The doctor said he didn't want to waste perfectly good cat food on that main thing. That's those are his words. not buying. this is your veterinarian. Did he say about going. Veterinarians all right but the veterinarian. Does that like this cat. I don't think that he does Dr boosters wonderful he loves. We nicknamed him dr doolittle and when we walk in st go ahead doing well you you do it i okay. We are in the in the waiting room. And we've got or we have pepperidge farm where we have dog I think for dog now. Oh ex By the way max. Isn't that the term all. Do it thirty makati bag mothers cats child. You know that to me all of you didn't do anything wrong so much t- bed the cat. Is that something. You gotta take a veterinarian fort. Goodbye can't hang up honey. That's right so what. I want to get to the bottom of the going to get to the bottom of now. Is that the cat. The what about the dog. Nothing about the dog. But the can't i i don't know you know. I know inconceivable. Steve here you doing. My wife is very distraught. I understand that. Mr dooley so you got three. You got a case of cat food for me. And i said that my cat. It doesn't seem to need it. And i was going to explain to you about breath. Okay yeah then. We have a dog. We got a dog but the dog. that's hypoallergenic. Food is something that is needed if the animal is is exhibiting symptoms. So what this is for godzilla. I've got forgotten. Poet goes on a candidate. J just an entire. She filled an entire catalogs. Diarrhea runs and the doctors after what we feed her and feed her. You know pretty much what we cook. So chilly chilly for a kitten. How dare you make me look like. I hate my cat and feed it. Things that'll give it the hershey squirts. How dare you gotta be duly. That's ridiculous thing to do it anyway. So the doctor said that he thought would do well on this food. And i got a case it an extra case for you because i know if you're your old cat brand. Thank you very much but right now with the doctors and This is fascinating. What is your pet eating. Yeah this is the will stiffen henry. I think it's very very interesting. I think it's fascinating as i said. We haven't retriever. Are retriever is mark and your name is mark. What about it. Wow while your cat's name godzilla all right. Everybody's got weird named cats and dogs and that's that's kind of cool so no problem but i think it is an interesting conversation. And and he's hypoallergenic foods. It's very interesting. The advances we move this along because we wanted to find out mr. We'll move it along a moment. Mr dooley all don't say. Hey everybody calm the hell down so anyway. Go ahead steve. Yeah well. it wasn't me. I think it was business. It was me. And i'm saying. Mark our retriever. Oh fuck it all right so breyer's on kidney care thing she's on on a a renal support what's that yeah but real support that's for her her kidneys because old cats get kidney disease and they get all kinds of problems says that's what she's eating and then there's the like i said. The dog just eats dog food and the other cat thunder frisky. So it's all good. But i appreciate that think. What am i supposed to do with this of cat food labor. It's duck flavored. It's duck flayed. that's fine you don't wanna give it to the dog. Well i mean. I suppose doctor said you can give it to anna animals. That don't have animal. You can give it to animals. That don't have any diseases so it's good for any kind of Even if the pets not showing any symptoms that's right. Yeah so and this one's duck flavor and if you give it to the dog or the other chat They may like it. I don't know. I mean we're familiar with a lot of that veterinary food. And it's kind of something on a lotta times. They don't make it very appealing to a human being filled with the dogs like it. I tell you. I've seen animals turn noses up at that stuff because it looks like pudding it doesn't even look like a dog food putting hope you're not eating. You're not trying it. Are you know i'm not. I'm fine no. I'm not i'm not trying it okay sale. Well in case you change your mind. I've got a case of the duck flavoring and didn't really get rabid flavoring. To what do you call it. Isn't that rabbit meat actual rabbit meat. Yes it is but it disturbs me greatly. When i think there's a rabbit meat in there what the hate man rabbit meat and venison and duck that we have that we got the venison and the duct flavor case. Innocent inducts later. Yes it's duck okay. You know. Tom duck and harry. Oh that's great honey. Thank you very deeply. You know what a couple of morons you know. You have them on because they call up and request airtime because sometimes they get something worthwhile. Now that's a good question. Why do you have them on their idiots. You know that. I know that the audience knows that trying to make a big joke at everything trying to make a joke everything. Yeah and they're always trying to make a joke out everything anyway. We'll still. there's no reason start making fun. We're facing what was that whole. Thing about. Dr doolittle gotta call back. They called back. What are they want now. I don't know what do you want. I mr harry. Just she just cuss me out. What do you mean. I said what do you want. And she said she called me dirty dirty name. Ms donate you can call back. Bud said that you just call him the cdc well he's going. Hey what do you want. I'm bobby early. On the president of the western states homeowners association. And we didn't finish our story. About dr boozer being dr doolittle right. That's thing we didn't do when he comes into the waiting room and we're waiting on him and we go you are. I'll say okay. Steve go. I can talk to animals. Talk to the animals. What would the animals say gene. That's all we do. Isn't that fantastic. And then what does. The doctor just dropped to his knees appreciation. She's would you please hang up on us with pleasure. I was just return of the mack. What was that the song they were playing. But you look at these levels men bottom. They're all over the goddamn place. okay. I'm looking at stuff. Peaking now i'm screaming at the top of my voice and everything is like flat. There's no budget at all. I'm adjusting it. The justice on the flood. Yeah you're adjusting it on the fly. But what do you want me to do man. I don't know man it's just it's it's jacked up. It's pissing me off. You know what you wanna do you get get them in here and get the studio squared away before you flip your lid. It really is true. I mean obviously you need to get some work done in. You know what. We're going to have to take like a long weekend. Like a friday through monday. And get this guy. All right World famous phil henry show filling. We show dot com back after this. You want to get her to say yes where pork fat cologne from a lien s family. Yes pork fat. Cologne made from real pork fat. She will be able to say no to you. Your charms your wiles. You'll seducer right there in the middle of the street with pork fat cologne god pork fat from the leonov family. 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Gets you What we consider to be the finest offering in the history of god on this planet and also like aren't you humbled well might as well might as well columns. We see him as gil. Stratton used to say a. Jesus christ you especially gilstrap. I hadn't heard the name gilstrap million years. Well be years before you hear gil stratton. People e isn't seven gil stratton. If you've ever seen the movie well this is now. I'm really this has got to be totally thirty. Five fifty four year old An older stuff. They're like stolac seventeen. Oh that's yeah dating. Celtic or marlon brando. The wild one gil stratton always played like a second banana little guy but he then he took his success as an actor and he turned it into a career as a sportscaster. Here in la was funny. But you'd see them move and then the next thing you know. He was on every night on channel. Two i think it was gifts. It was channel to the big news. Now okay right. I've i'm not from here. I'm from pennsylvania a hold on while you're talking about it because i have connect. Oh my god general. She's got she those people you don't know anybody for it was the big news. I was going to say that. The i'll do it the big news with jerry. Dunphy ralph starring around story. Then they hit you. Let me do it. Please go right ahead. she did. You hear that phil. You went feminine data okay. Who gives a crap what i'm talking about. Finish the story felt so gilstrap into the and he always started it by saying hi everybody. It's time to call him as we see him. Yeah that was it man. I mean it was. So why did you waste time now. That's an interesting story. Yeah well. I'm gonna lift it and it's gonna be mine high everybody's in retirement columns we see them. Why what that means. I don't know all right now. This is something we had jeff daughter calling in about. Jeff donors you know is contributed the program. He is a part time professor of mechanical physics. At caltech he drove a snowplow for the city of huntington. Beach is the most asinine thing i've ever heard of. Well you know it took him about two weeks to figure out. They didn't need one right and he is kind of an all around. Knockabout guy knows a little bit about Everything got jeff fun because he watches a lot of tv. Now here's the thing. I never watched walking dead. I watched it for the very first time about a month ago. Now what do you think of it. I think it's good but there's a lot of stuff that like doesn't add up. That was one of the most popular shows still on yet. Still on one of the most popular shows ever. And henry's gotta sit here and lift his linked to it. What is it with you. Every time people like something you want to go ahead and pull it out and just host something off with jesus. Well that's what you do. Nobody does. I'm just saying one thing about it and i'm going to ask jeff. I've watched it and now there's a fear of the walking dead right. Yeah there's a fear of the walking dead. Why wouldn't it be. There's shows called that. Oh oh oh yeah so jeff down is gonna join us from temple city california. If you don't mind here ladies joan talk about so jeff you you watch the walking dead and do you still watch. I don't watch as much as i used to. 'cause i you know there's other stuff that's on tv right now right now. I am down with fear. Fear fear walking dead And i'm into the handmaiden tail and a variety of programmings. That are on right now but my question for the walking dead thing man is. Why didn't they ever use fire to torch these zombies referring to. It must be talking about the survivors. Right yeah the survivors. Why did they do what. Why did they not use fire. Why didn't they get some torches. Oh are we talking about set on fire. yeah. I think they did they. Debbie never do sometimes by accident. Now i've never seen the program. So i don't know what do you mean by accident. One time a flare gun shot a flare into zombie head. Now where the who. This is the show the walking dead. Okay all so what do you say it again. look man. there's only so many ways i can say. Well you wanna meet a. Why did they in the show. The walking dead. First of all mr henry think about it. Okay if you have zombie and you you set it on fire. It's walking all over the place you don't know what if it walks into into a guy you know. Wait a minute. I'm not saying every instance. I'm saying there were times on this show where the zombies would be out in like a wide open expanse. Like the time i mean. I spent a long time. Since i better than i did. I've ever watched it well. There was a time they had like a rock corey. Yeah why didn't they use fire then. Well you're the one you're talking about when they had trucks. Yeah because if you use you gotta understand something about that. Show frank you know the guys that wrote it. I mean this is a classic breath. Novel okay. it's basically a comic book. No no it's not a comic book. No it's a illustrated book all right fine. Us not feel pro. Hey general checkout the walking dead. Did you see preacher gone to texas. I liked that one. Yeah so it's not no comic book comic book anyway. So what's the answer. the question. well. I mean first of all if you move around they if you get a bunch zombies that are set on fire and they decide to scatter brother. You got a big problem man. That's gonna set. Everything in town on. Fire echoed set on people. People could be on fire. Houses would be on fire. You know what man. You're giving me the right answer. But it's like the wrong answer that's supposed to mean because yeah that makes sense in the abstract but the fact is on a show after show. They'd have the out on a highway. One time a wide open highway. You could have like throwing gasoline on all of these and there was a lot of them like a couple of hundred. Maybe a thousand of these zombies and they're all like where we get out of here you know if they waded into them with knives and all that crap. Why didn't they just set these bastards on fire. If you're where they on an open highway all right. I mean i realized first of all the first of all rick. The guy that leads led the survivors was a cop. And it's going to go against every instinct that he has to set fire to zombies and caused complete obstacle a road hazard like that even though humans. I understand in cars but goes against the instinct. Okay bullshit wow man still. He's giving you an answer. Why don't you just say that the that they made a mistake in the writing. They not make a mistake in the writing. That's probably one of the best written shows in the history of tv. Hey don't ask don't mess with the walking dead. It's one of the greatest shows. The walking dead kicked off one of the great renaissance restaurants is in television history from the success. The success of that show. Why can't house of cards did too. But american american. Zombie don americans on the walking the walking dead americans. Yeah i was thinking something. I was thinking. I don't know what stuff like i was thinking of. Something else That's one of the best written shows ever in the history of television so he got trying to tread lightly on saying mr henry. Because it's it's it's a great show. Yeah all right man. I'll tread real lightly on this thing. But i'm still gonna ask the question you know. It's no big thing. And i just wanted to get you on here because i know that you dig the shows you watch them. I think that it's a large gaping hole in the in the writing. Well i think if you if you if you if you slow down any okay if you think about it if you let if you set a zombie on fire and it staggers around. It's going to bump into a tree. Set that on fire bump into human set him on fire and they're all going for humans just is you set them on fire doesn't mean they don't they're gonna stop wanting human flesh and know the only way that it'll stop is if the fire reaches the head you know and cooks took up the brain and you know so they set the fire. They suddenly not attack the humans. But with jeff saying is they would begin to scatter and they would hazard other things all right now. A little bit of that makes sense will bit. Because there's like the chlorine with they're all down there in the rock pit. Well you could set them on. Fire down there. Man doesn't mean it's gonna kill him. You gotta go down there and check them out. You know the whole reason why. They were freaked out about that. Glory is on account of the zombies. Was getting out. They'd they'd compromise the trucks and everything and then they had to go over there and figure it out but if they're down there i mean i don't know if they're still alive you must have down there and they're still alive. Who cares you gotta make sure man. They're going to you. Know half a body and you live in three miles away if that even if the do half a body he can crawl using his arms and get your house probably within probably a day and a half a day and a half well. It's your half a body and you're calling along. I i don't know yeah all right. Thank you jeff. That's all i wanted to know about that. Okay you know anything else. That's on tv that you did we. I like the handmaid's tale. I know you're into them israel henry. That's a great show. Yeah it's it's a dystopia show about how you know the countries taken over by these fundamentalists like weird fundamentalist and they want all the women who are still able to have babies okay. What does that mean nuclear war or something. No but there was so much venereal disease you know. They sort of. The book was written by us. Margaret atwood margaret. Atwood wrote it. You know i guess kind of like society and so much venereal disease that women were sterile. And i guess that's why the christianity took it over. They never say christianity. I wouldn't imagine that they would but what's happened. Is we recognize it as kind of a fundamentalist thing. It's an it's extreme. Though the really extreme thing you know in case people are worried about how it makes. Christians look and everything but but that's a cool show because These women are like you know it's a police state. Basically and these women are forced to have these babies and they're forced to have sex with the commanders k. Mr henry okay. Yeah yeah yeah. I've seen it other. Commanders please. Command is a heads of society. This society is run by men. You know a lot of things like about it and yeah sure the weather really go along with this one. The commanders are the higher the religious hierarchy and they have these handmaidens that have to have sex with them. The wives are in the room. What is this show done. It's done clean. It's done christian clean so dude so is dressed except for the underwear they i guess don't think we're entering the states men but you go ahead you explain it. Well i mean sill all right there in the room. All do it there. In the room and girl the handmaiden has to wonder underwear on. You have to assume 'cause she's having sex with the commander who must not have no pants on otherwise everybody's fully dressed and the yeah. The commander's wife is there. And she is who he's supposed to be looking at she's got like the handmaiden is laying down on the bed with her head between the eye. I swear to god with her head between the legs of the white. But it's not it's not sex you know. She's just laying there and it's kooky it's it's pretty creepy creepy and then and then you see how corrupt everything is because the commanders even other pretending like they're all religious they go to go to a brothel. Oh that's senior. So they go to the brothel and they have themselves a regular hedonistic life. Yeah i mean basically this show and the writing is about a the level of hip a religious policy that brings this fictitious world to this point and see dignity show yeah. I think it's pretty rad. And i'm following it and in season two. I'm surprised you haven't looked at it misery. I'm gonna catch up on hulu. But at the end of last season they had taken her off because she had she been captured by the state police because she led her rebellion. They were supposed to stone this girl to death. And that's that's the thing about this show about the show. That's kind of just way way creeped out like if you commit a if you commit an offense against the state they'll do things like take your i talking about now. They do. Yeah they took. This girl's i and one of the guys one of the husbands who was caught screwing around with another. He was caught off hours. Let's say off hours. Yeah they had a handmaiden. And you're supposed to have sex with their with the wife present but this dude was hitting up when the wife was there yeah and so that the wife reported him to the to the high council and they go well. Yeah and and the guy goes. Well let's let let's let it slide and this goes this wife. She loves him so much that she wants to make sure he never sins again so she wants to make sure it's a very very you know a strict punishment so they cut the dudes arm off. The guy was wait. No man they think they anesthesia surgery yet. Cut this off so it's pretty interesting. Show you're into that and anything else right now. I'm kinda working a little bit more. At caltech i got two classes on on the weekends and basically. I'm up admit canyon about three three nights a week with toby. Beau and Clearance and and white fang and forced white fang. That's white sales girlfriend and name is white fang. Yeah what what's the deal. Because it's kind of a weird name to give a woman but nobody gave her that. Does she took it for herself. She liked it. Real name is like clarissa cheryl or something like that. Why she called himself white fang because he saw a puppet or something that was named then. All right man. I mean misery. You give me on your show and you hear used daughter and if i if i'm sorry no no no no no wait do news would be and now i haven't come okay. You know like god. Man i started. I really am saying we'll respect. Hey i got all the respect and lord. Thank you very much all right. And the jeff dowd. World-famous phil emery show there with description a description of the handmaiden sa- handmaid's it's the handmaid's tale in the name of everything. Holy you jack asses. Hey man i mean. I corrected it. No you didn't externally did at the beginning. i. I think i'd probably call the handmaid's handmaid's tale and this is this. Is the hot new show. One of a man. I mean one of televisions televisions got good. It's gotten real real good except for the show. You're on exactly only kidding about the shows that i'm on world-famous fill in from the pacific and southern california executive produced by me villainy inc all rights reserved on podcast one and don't forget to itunes and give a rating and review and tell the world tell the countryside. Tell the cities scape tell you that you enjoy the phil. Hendrie show podcast daily. You'll be glad you did her.

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Ep 142: The Janitor (David Dooley)

Court Junkie

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Ep 142: The Janitor (David Dooley)

"Forty two year old michelle mocked be was brutally murdered. Early one morning in may two thousand twelve should just arrived at her job as an hr employees at thermo scientific a northern kentucky. Planned a supervisor named ed and a janitor stumbled onto the horrific scene. Michelle had been beaten. Her wrists cut her skull fractured a plastic bag around her head. Here's a monk long vicious office. I think somebody who killed somebody upstairs in her office. Okay thanks somebody else. He's laying there underground over it up and there's blood all over the floor office okay and you said this board outside the store yes man. Big pile ed's voice trembled on the phone with the nine one one dispatcher. She urged him to send the janitor to block off the path so nobody would disturb what was clearly a crime scene okay. That's the gator. That at went up there with you just he. He's the one that the steps down not let anyone go up there. The janitors name was david dooley. As the police investigation continued and authorities searched for a motive to understand why someone would kill michelle. David dooley would become the main suspect. He was arrested and charged with her death. A jury convicting him in two thousand fourteen and sentencing him to life in prison but this isn't straightforward and shut case by any means in two thousand sixteen. Roughly two years after david's conviction a whistleblower a clerk who had been fired from prosecutor linda tally. Smith's office gave the attorney general. A thumb drive with some damaging information on it. According to local media reports the messages on the thumb drive made it clear that the lead detective in michelle mock these case detective. Bruce mcveigh and prosecutor. Linda tally smith had been having an affair under oath. Tally smith admitted that they had started an affair. After david's trial had ended david dooley's defense team said the thumb drive also contained proof that the prosecution had been deceptive and hadn't released all the information in the case to the defense what was kept hidden from them according to local media reports. The defense said surveillance video. They hadn't seen before captured an unknown man walking through the parking lot and approaching door behind a nearby building the night before michelle was murdered. The defense argued. David deserved a retrial. Judge james r sh- rand who presided over the first trial. Granted that request in two thousand seventeen. And that's where today's episode brings us to david dooley's retrial. Will he be convicted again. Or will there be new evidence that proves his innocence. This is jillian. And you're listening to court junkie episode. One forty two. Take coloring your hair at home to the next level with madison reed. 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Am because she handled payroll for thermo. Fisher scientific a multibillion dollar company that manufactures equipment and technology for scientists. It was a massive site multiple warehouses the size of football fields. But on this early morning when michelle arrived less than ten people were already at work. Michelle was almost alone. Michelle walked up the steps to her second story office. Her office mate's wouldn't arrive for another hour. Heck said she normally locked her office because someone once tried to break in. She never had an unlocked. That door we estimate to be about six to six. Am she was every. We believe the attack sorted here. This first full blood right here. She was beating her hands. Were bound andrew back packing tape. A plastic bag was taken overhead. A plastic bag that we believe the second from winter Right here suport here by taking out of this place over head. She was the driving forty feet pooling. Blood all the way to the store lisa. What's called Mary to stay in through this door to the right. Lay to rest. Filthy thing she could do was dot eddie. Esca a supervisor who later called nine one one notice. The pool of blood stained the second floor by michelle's office and alerted the head of maintenance. David dooley who out loud assumed. It was just degrees. David also said it wasn't there earlier that morning when he cleaned that floor cleaning services for this house was done the defendant david lena wife. They were employees of fisher scientific. They were contractors. Use those punch cards telling you about earlier on this particular day. Debut arrive at five. Am so our show. And that's that's not unusual. He would usually get their cleanup break. Room offices and munoz way where some of the defendants called up. He says that wasn't there this morning when he clean focus just said it wasn't there this morning when he clean you're going to hear evidence during courses trial. This place had been cleaned yet. Think mr dewey was doing something else heck said the two men began looking around. Ed found michelle and it was very clear that she was deceased. Please arrive And they tell everyone go to get to this lobby area all employees to lie. They question the inspect them. They look at their clothes. They're looking for blood looking for defensive. Ones offensive wounds pictures of their feet tracks. Most important tell everyone. What did you do today. Walk me through this day and everyone's just a normal day a parking my saints five. You're gonna learn. These people may have been there for thirty years. The average tenure. There's a twenty two us. People love working there in the preachers have had a thing i do every morning. Parking spot set my car. Drink coffee. I went through the main door. I started working. You hear they. They have used to call barra guys. Did they scan the inventory is inventory comes. Standard goes on shelves as it goes out and gets scanned. It really is a well run machine and these people have been there for years and he always count there. David dooley recounted day here out. The warehouse appears clean. Need heck then outlined. The evidence against david dooley this surveillance. Video from an adjacent facility showed the comings and goings of a normal morning except for one thing shortly after michelle was murdered. David could be seen leaving the planned and not only was he leaving but he took a different route than he usually did. Thirty minutes after michelle six thirty in the morning. Who's seen leaving. He's not just leaving imports here. He should go out here. That's the way he wielded a month of surveillance eagles in and out this way every single time. Six thirty in the morning thirty minutes after show. That beat up truck all the way around here if you want to be seen whoever murdered michelle presumably left the warehouse heck said since police never found the murder weapon or other items used in the attack. This was a central part of the criminal case against david. Police racist inclusion ladies and gentleman. The evidence in this case is going to be. I think you're gonna to satisfied. Whoever did this left. I still reused. Michelle's murder to this day have never been found. That warehouse items like tatum down her wrist. Like the blame. The congress type mentioned her skull fracture. some blunt. Object was used to eat her death. He's able comfortable. Dewey house could firms did leave. Why don't you leave. A wife doesn't kill okay. Lack of thermal visiting interview. Some of the other employees. Did you see. David dooley leaves long questions of. That's one of the one of the guys who unloaded trucks first thing in the morning. It's got joseph so secrets gap in italy. I saw came back ends. How weird has never talks to me to make the point you came walked up car. Went home my hands. Okay so what can track in the first interview. David dooley no mentioned that he went home. When there's undisputed that he left acknowledges all ya did was to cole on an went home as my wife wasn't feeling well into a co. He went home because he wrote his pants. were through. what made the case complex one for the prosecution. However was the lack of forensic evidence no conclusive dna or fingerprints in his opening. Statements hack admitted this but he believed there was a likely explanation as a janitor. David had access to latex gloves and wore them when he cleaned in the dust of the warehouse. Investigators hunted for. They searched the walls outside. Michelle's office where she had been attacked. They swabbed in swabbed. Heck said trying to get dna evidence finally. He said they did get something. Heck told the jury that michelle had been dragged down a forty foot hallway when you drag someone. It allows dna to get all over them. Skin cells contain dna hairston tasty it gets embedded in carpet when someone is drug particularly with the force of the way their body drunk against the carpet. There's going to be lots of demand provence on the shelf shirt alone. Denver seventeen eight. We never been identified. All her husband's name was on her shirt heard evenings on her shirt and a profile from which he can't be excluded was also on her shift. It's not a strong match. I don't want to oversell the dna t u about one. Eight people have the profile of the sounded. He's well but the type was on her head. Much stronger match did they will be. Dna evidence case although he conceded that the dna found on her shirt. That couldn't exclude. David wasn't that strong. A match he said a trash bag that was on her head was a much stronger. One the photos of employee time cards flashed on a screen in front of the jury. This was what the prosecution believed was the motive for the crime fraud and money cards the switch the temps years. This is what the newly she is a little bit about their arrangement. Janet w was giving us our fourteen four hundred dollars a month to clean the break room and the offices david punched in was paid hourly tofane whereas if and only if janet helped the warehouse could she'd brunch it. Here's what they were doing. They will get to work with. No janet punch them both in and then do her job while they're both on the clock. It was called triple dipping heck said where david and his wife janet. We're getting paid a salary. And then to hourly wages. Because david would punch in as though janet was helping clean the warehouse to four days before machel's death heck said david and janet did just that david clocked in at four forty nine. Am then janet's time card was punched at five fifty six am other. She didn't physically arrive at work until seven. Thirty am jamming for being there. Janet do take the tool is being paid to do janet's and they're getting the salary wise. It's important michelle. Mafias the human resources officer for this facility she checked payroll and she was doing payroll that morning when she showed up she would have gathered the time cards and looked at him. And said there's dave there's there's a good chance job. There's no chance yet again here. We think this very well could be pretty assault. Busted further heck said the time cards for janet and david from that morning. Were missing to get a little bit of priests to this. Wouldn't help to know if he had punched part from channel punched in that day and the punch a potential vote punched in the head. That gets what it was never found to this day. It's never family. It wasn't in michelle stuff when she got time carts. It wasn't the time card slot. That i showed you second slot. It wasn't in david. Julius gender closet and it wasn't house the punch hearts would show they were working day went missing. We believe the killer realized. This is what killer. I need to take this evidence with me. I need to take the razor blade that cobras with and you take the take our and need to get out of and those were never found remember how prosecutor said that. Michelle kept her office door locked because somebody tried to break in before that played into the evidence to he said a few months earlier. There marked slept at her door. And then fresh primorac said came from a screwdriver appeared just a few days earlier at michelle's door. Investigators were able to take impressions from the mark's so we see smart gets about nine ten centimeter wide. It is the head of a flat head screwdriver. But not just any planets as removes a crime screwdriver. This is david dooley jaded closet when they searched his closet. They found a screwdriver. Not in a toolbox nine under tore up in a cover with a knife suspicious. You bet heck then said he had a couple other things. He wanted to touch on one of them being a husband. Dan mcvie mafiosos husband. They all accounts had a loving caring relationship. There's no crew domestic violence. Kate but he was looked at at as you would be wasn't in a gain. She wasn't a drug dealer. So you start looking at all right. Does he have a husband. Because that's versus denmark. He was looked at dan. Being worked at their homes fisher. Scientific michelle's a supervisor. That's where they met stations like a family. He was off forget day and they had two little girls he was going to spend time girls for days he was at home. He's getting phone calls from some of this please. Who can't get to work because the police blocked off the driveway. What's going on. He's calling and texting his wife. Hey baby you okay. Phone call a phone call is not answered. He gets his car. He grabs there and he's told his life's emerged. He acted appropriately. Who's absolutely destroyed. Signed every consent form that was thrown in front of the search. My house search computers searching. He searched my van very program. Michelle and dan who also worked at thermo fisher scientific where the parents of two daughters it was clear. Michelle loved being a mom on her facebook page. She shared photographs of the girls posing with the disney princess and mickey mouse on a family vacation. What was i thinking. Michelle row with a question mark and exclamation point on christmas day. Two thousand eleven next to a picture of her two children proudly clutching guitars by the christmas tree. It looked like a happy family on the outside though there were what some might consider red flags and michelle and dan's relationship. That not everything was so perfect for example. The couple was deep in debt. They owed on their credit cards. They clearly weren't great managing their money. And with michelle's death heck said. Dan stood to financially benefit considerably. More than seven hundred thousand dollars in life insurance but as the police investigation went on which meant taking a deeper look at everyone at the warehouse. Heck pointed out that one employees behavior stood out. David the janitor who seemed fidgety and nervous under questioning as the prosecution's opening statements. Were coming to an end. Heck seemed to be preparing for the rebuttal. That would be coming from the defense already. The case had been flawed with an inappropriate relationship between a detective and the previous prosecutor. There were also the accusations of not having disclosed all the evidence but there was also more a detective used a hand held recorder. That wasn't working properly when he interviewed witnesses with faulty equipment. He turned to old fashioned paper and pen to take notes and there was more. I don't know a mistake of law enforcement. So much is a failure but there is a mistake that was made. I think i know you do will set. I mentioned that the show has died around her head. It became saturated with blood and when things become saturated with blood and makes it more difficult to extract someone else's dna because there's so much dna and blood and there's so much flooding that back. So what they did. Is they cut around the portions that they they're like this is the best part. I will be contested. Two two large pieces of where there was the mass amount of pooling blood where they didn't think they could get that much not test. They did not collect did not test them and they will billy. I admit even if we didn't test that we should have collected okay mistake but heck insisted they had the right guy. Only one person left the warehouse that day and then returned which would have given him the opportunity to hide the murder weapon the time cards and any other evidence. Only one person had the motive a motive that was timeless old fashioned greed and fraud the every arrow points. David dooley heck said asking the jury to convict him of murder and tampering with physical evidence taken from the scene and never recovered. Whoever did it would have had on them on her clothes and on their boots they had to change. Come back only one person left. Let's do next. Step was defense attorney. Deanna denison who immediately insisted that david didn't murder michelle. The prosecution's motive didn't make sense. She argued it was impossible for david to ever. Truly get rid of the time cards because the company copied them and sent them to the corporate office. Somebody else had a better motive and would gain something from michelle's death. She said that person also knew the exact details of michelle's schedule and when she left for work since she was coming in earlier than normal to handle her payroll duties. It was her husband. She said she told the jury that dan mock be would end up receiving a significant sum in the million dollar range from all the pieman's collected after michelle's death the game. Let's talk about that now. Just i'll tell you that fits that he game and as a result of project we've got line insurance seven hundred seventy four thousand dollars in life insurance. We got another life insurance policies stonebridge thirty thousand dollars. We've got ten thousand dollars so much shopian. We've got four thousand dollars from hartford life. We got seventy six thousand dollars from workers. Hot benfits diet work. You'd get more before michelle died. The family was in dead. Sixty five thousand dollars. Creditors were calling. She had been sued. Denison said it seemed to be piling up shortly before the murder. Dan took money from his 401k. To pay bills and to get caught up on the mortgage and after michelle's death. Dan took out huge cash withdrawals more than three hundred ninety thousand dollars in cash. She said she said. Dan couldn't account for all the money he took out. Did that mean he hired somebody to kill michelle. Denison said there was more suspicious. Behavior at the exact same time was notified at eight. Oh nine a m. That something had happened at his work. He deleted files on his computer. You exactly the time. And he testified. You tell tells the opposites yeah. This guy called and the police were there. They were blocking the entrance. And you can't of different statements about whether you said that there was the exact time on the phone call eight or nine. He was in a program. Computer called cypher strumming his deleted five year. She said dan had been looking at dating websites. She also responded to the prosecutor statements. About how david changed his story about why he left the factory that morning it had started out as a normal day on the job for david who had been employed at the warehouse for several years. He didn't see any blood when he went up to the second floor office. He went about his business cleaning the bathrooms and doing inventory control. His wife had a busy day of work ahead of her and wasn't feeling well but when he tried calling her she didn't answer that's why she said he went back home to check on her. He went home. Saw his wife and left again. He got back to work around seven. Am so he could discover a dead body she asked. It doesn't make sons so the prosecution is adamant that david dooley committed the murder although they admit that their case isn't as strong as they'd like it to be meanwhile the defense says michelle's husband is more likely the killer. 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Dan insisted that he had nothing to do with his wife's murder according to w cpo. Dan testified that he did receive a lot of money after michelle's death and that he lost at least ten percent of it in business ventures. That didn't work out. He said he also gave some of the money to his nephew and to of course his two daughters with michelle saying we had this money in the girls had just lost their mother. And i'm trying. I don't want the girls to go into a dark place on cross. He also said he still owes more than a thousand dollars for michelle's headstone all that cash withdrawal and you haven't yet paid for her headstone. Denison asked dan said no. Dan was also questioned about a ten thousand dollar check. He made out to a friend. Chris black a few months. After michelle's death. Chris also worked at thermo fisher scientific according to local media outlets. Dan testified that he couldn't remember why he had written that. Chuck chris and his wife. Marta testified they were in financial hard times. Marta said she had asked stand for the money. That's what friends do for one. Another they help each other out. She said according to the cincinnati enquirer. The defense questioned. Both dan and chris implying that dan had paid his friend to murder. Michelle now you say. You didn't kill your wife but did you have anything to do with hiring somebody to kill your wife. David's attorney asks. Dan absolutely not absolutely not dan replied. Do you agree with me that this is a pretty good motive or incentive to kill your wife. David's attorney asks. No dan side. As for chris the defense asked him straight out if he had anything to do with michelle's murder. No sir. Chris replied the planning of it. No sir the execution of it no sir. W cpo abc affiliate of cincinnati also covered the trial as detectives. Working the case took the stand for hours at a time. Boone county sheriff's office detective. Bruce mcveigh retired. After david's first trial after he had been caught having an affair with the prosecutor for the retrial he returned to court and testified that during his investigation. He paid close attention to any signs at the plant. Employees may have been involved in a struggle drops of blood torn clothes. Anything w. c. p. o. detailed mcveigh's testimony as he described. How david dooley stood out. He had clean white shoes and the place was filthy so that was an observation to me. He said he wasn't alone. One of david's co-workers also testified. How strange it was that. David's shoes looked so clean that morning. Detective mcvay also testified that something else seemed off when he interviewed david. The first time. David said he collected the garbage that morning but officials noticed the work hadn't yet been done. David also didn't initially disclosed that he had abruptly left work. That morning took another interview for david to admit that and be more forthcoming. David finally told detectives he had gone home to check on his wife. He said he was worried about her. Which is why. He went home in the first place because she didn't pick up her phone. He described his sequence of events going home seeing his wife on the couch kissing her playing with their cat and then returning to work according to the cincinnati enquirer but his wife had a different version of events. Detective mcvay said david never returned home. David seemed shocked as detectives confronted him about this under questioning. You can ask her. David said we did detective mcvay replied and she said i didn't come home. That's not right. i did. David said the recorded interview played at trial according to local media reports. Why would her story be different. Detective mcvay asked. She wasn't with me that day so she doesn't know david said but she said you didn't come home. Detective matscher insisted. I don't know. David said she said i didn't come home. Yes david said his wife had trouble hearing and may not have heard the detectives question correctly which might explain why she said that in the interview. David's demeanor seemed to change detective stall testified about an interrogation tactic. They used on him. A ruse authorities believed michelle had been murdered with a tape gun. Although remember the murder weapon was never confirmed or found. Detectives pulled out a tape gun that was similar to the one they believed had been used and held it up to see how david would react to it. Would he think it was the actual murder weapon. David's demeanor changed quickly and he stopped talking according to detective stalls testimony on the stand detective. Brian cochran detailed the steps of the investigation for the jury and walked them through numerous items of evidence. They tested from inside. David's janitors. closet. No evidence of any blood was found. The same goes for david's truck uncrossed. He said he only used blue star on david's truck and in the warehouse not in denmark b.'s. Car detective cochran said. He executed a search warrant on david himself and took photographs of any perceived injuries. There were none found as for. Dna evidence michelle's clothing a bag. She had been carrying and part of a bag that was found wrapped around her head. Were all tested but nothing. Conclusively matched david. The prosecution's expert could only say his profile couldn't be excluded. Dr gregory winger. The medical examiner who performed michelle's autopsy testified that in his opinion he agreed that the murder weapon was a tape gun. He said there were skull. Fractures brain bleeding and bruising. Numerous employees from thermo fisher. Scientific also took the stand. One employee recounted that when she returned to work on the day michelle's body was found. David was downstairs making sure. No one disturbed the crime scene. She said he was distraught and very upset she said he then suddenly became agitated and was cursing about how he had been to monitor the door and staircases to protect the scene. Another employees said. David was very fidgety. After the body was found and that when asked what was going on he just kept saying. It's michelle yet. Another employee however testified on cross that he saw a white van that seemed to be out of place outside the facility on the morning of the murder. He said most of the workers know each other and know what cars they drive. This van was one. He hadn't seen before when it was the defenses. Turn to present their case. They offered up additional suspects ones. They say investigators never truly followed up on one of them was michelle's husband. Dan something the defense straightaway came out and said during their opening statements. They called a computer expert named andrew garrett to the stand garrett testified that he examined the computers at the mock. Be home as well as michelle's computer at work what he found lots of dating sites on the mockby computer sites like fling dot com and adult friend finder. He said a dating website was also accessed from michelle's work computer in march two thousand twelve about two months prior to her death. According to the northern kentucky tribune garrett also testified that the computer program. Cypher was accessed on the mockby at eight. Oh nine. am right around the time. Dan had been notified that something had happened at their work. Safer is a program that destroys so they can't be recovered now. The prosecution had called their own expert. Who testified that the program was initiated automatically when the computer booted up that morning but garrett said that wasn't possible the defense also pointed to another potential suspect a man named joe who is a warehouse. Worker at thermo fisher. Scientific joe had testified for the prosecution and said he saw michelle as she clocked in the morning she died. He said she seemed like she was in a hurry. Joe said he also saw david that morning at about seven. Am according to his testimony. David told him that he had to go home and change his pants because he had ripped them. Garrett testified that the interviews police did with both david. His first interview and with joe had any raised. Prosecutors say that the tape recorder that was used in those particular interviews had malfunctioned but according to garrett it may have been intentional. A security guard from thermo fisher. Scientific also testified about joe. He said show told him that if people knew what he did about what happened quote it would scare the fuck out of them. Joe told him that if it was him he would have worn gloves and deceit and that when the dna results come back they would blow people away. The security guard said he was so freaked out by the comments that he told his boss about it. He said a few others talked about the murder. But not as much as joe did joked about it every day. He said he wanted to know a lot of stuff. The defense also called a man named garland lay them who used to work at the warehouse. Remember that surveillance video that the defense said the prosecution held back from them during the first trial. Well now is their chance to show it to the jury. The video showed a man whose identity was never confirmed walking through the warehouse. Parking lot about two hours before the murder lay them was asked if anyone had ever asked if he could identify the man and he said no. But it's the first time he has ever seen it. A hearing specialist was also called to the stand according to w k r c. He testified that he administered a hearing test to david's wife and that she had moderate to severe hearing loss in her left ear and profound hearing loss in her right ear. As you'll recall. David told detectives that she may not have heard their question correctly. When asked if david had come home that morning and as for a tape gun being the possible murder weapon. The defense called dr richard hot a bio mechanics engineer and professor to dispute that. Dr houghton said that in his opinion he didn't think the tape gun could have caused michelle's injuries that it was well below the amount of force needed to kill someone like that in her closing arguments. David's attorney diana denison said michelle deserves to have the right killer prosecuted and that. It's not david dooley. She said there's a mountain of evidence in the case but it doesn't connect him to the murder. She also pointed out that the force that was used to kill michelle suggested the killer was in a rage instead she said it could have been another warehouse worker or dan mockby could have given someone access to the building and then hired that person to kill her. It would be a rage so great to have bludgeoned this woman to death. And they want you to believe it's over time card. She asked when it was his turn. Prosecutor heck showed a photo of dan be to the jury and said is he a cold blooded killer or is he had devastated husband. He lives with the mother of his murdered. Wife he's raising two children. He had with his murdered wife. The trial concluded in march two thousand nineteen for the second time. David waited for the jury to decide his fate and for a second time. He heard the same verdict. The jury of four women and eight men voted guilty. The following month court resumed as david waited for his sentence in an emotional hearing. michelle's loved ones gave victim. Impact statements describing the absence in their lives. Left by michelle's dav michelle's sister. Jennifer schneider spoke. We will never know what truly happened that day. She said according to the northern kentucky tribune newspaper the only people who truly know. Are david dooley and my sister. Michelle mockby and only one of them still has a voice. One who still has a voice almost seven years later continues to be a coward and hide behind his lies with that. The judge sentenced david to forty three years in prison. He would return to court again in two thousand twenty facing charges over child pornography from a crime unrelated to michelle staff in a plea deal in november two thousand and twenty. David pleaded guilty and was sentenced to two five year terms. According to local media reports. David dooley will serve that sentence concurrently with his forty three year murder sentence. And that's all for this episode as always. I'd love to hear what you think about this case. 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SIDEBAR: That was a very bizarre case.

"Everyone this is gillian. And i'm here with my friend for it me. Hi brittany jalen the welcome to sidebar where we're going to chat about four junkie episodes other cases were following end. Basically all things true crime yes and in today's episode. We're going to discuss some of the behind the scenes in bo from these skyler nimitz case. Joel guy junior. David dooley case and some updates. On cases that you've covered in the past so ryan law horn and anita smoothie and we'll also talk about the cases that were obsessing over following currently and then we will also talk about phil spector who recently passed away in some of the disappointing reactions. That the media had about that so jelena's then going to tell us something that recently happened. That made her realize that she is a true court. Junkie through and through so yeah. Let's just jump on end so jillian. how're you doing. I'm doing good. I actually just recently and moving my on my reporting stop into a brand new recording studio. And i put that in quotes because it's basically just a bigger room. I guess you could say that. I'm renting currently but if you know me you know that i started court junkie in my closet so this is a pretty big step and i'm really excited about it. I think you're shorting yourself. I've seen the office days. It's very nice. It's an upgrade at a very exciting of big step. I feel like for you just to have your own real space to record. Yes finally with no dogs barking or kids crying or yelling in the background. So yeah absolutely. So how are you doing. I am doing so good Aside from the fact that we're in the midst of a snow storm this week has been crazy with the snow which has been good for my daughter. I know you're too loving to play out in the snow so aside from from that things are really good. I'm busy working on something. That's very exciting. He's inward exciting over and over again. But like bad is what i would call this. It's very exciting. So in partnership with jillian and her court junkie team working on launching a new podcast. That will be all about civil. Trials are so many cases of all cases that are really fascinating and so we wanted to give those some love and so working on putting that together so stay tuned for that in the coming weeks. Holy have more updates for you next month. So let's jump in because we have a lot to discuss today. As i said we're gonna just do some quick recaps on episodes that you put out this month and talk about some behind the scenes stuff that wasn't released in the actual podcast so the first one is skyler nimitz the soldier episode. One forty and so as a reminder this case followed two young young couple related in their twenties skyler nimitz his wife. Danielle tragedy when a schuyler shot daniel. And there's no question there like he shot her. The question was. Was it an accident or was it intentional. And so a lot of comments. You got on instagram. About this case. So i wanna talk a little bit about that but i interested to hear jillian. Why did you pick this case. What stood out here. So this was a case that i had heard about years ago and i knew the basic details. But i didn't know too much in depth about it so to be. Honest just selfishly. I wanted to cover it on the podcast. So that i can find out what happened and then share with my listeners. What i thought to be a fascinating case like you said. There's no doubt that. Skyler shot in killed danielle but at the trial like you said it was all about intent to the gun. Accidentally go off as he was winning at were or did he mean to murder her. It was also a very controversial case with berry actual participants on both sides. And what i mean by that is it's one of those cases where you'll likely find a message or or comments section. Were you have fierce defenders of daniel victim and she was and how justice research and then you have fierce of styler and that includes his mom who i believe. I've seen on several Trumpet sections and message boards. Although i could potentially not be her it could be. Somebody was just hosing us for but she was definitely coming off as a fierce defender. Upper sign earned did not believe that he deserved any kind of punishment. So it's a very complex peace with no doubt a lot of emotions and i think that that probably comes out when you look at listener comments about the case or different emails that i received about it. One interesting thing is another thing i wanted to do. Here is talk about things that didn't make it into the episode things. I didn't include or things i found in my research and one of the things was. There's this forty eight hours interview with erin moriarty. That's on youtube and she did this interview with schuyler during the trial and before the verdict and i just thought some of his answers were just pretty interesting honestly his mom he did talk about his mom for example and said that his mom spent relight savings on his defense she sold. Her jewelry doesn't have a car anymore. That kind of thing. He said he did have to explain to her. That what he did in the state of washington is classified at least negligence and he said that it took kerr while to come around and understand that another thing he said is that he knew that he made a mistake that he didn't know. Exactly how the court system works so he didn't realize that he would have to go to prison and he said that i. He thought any jury in their right mind would see that. It was an accident. So i came across that interview. And i just saw that there were just you know some fascinating nuggets on his mindset. You know especially right before. The verdict itself was announced what he was thinking and like. I said i came across comments. That were reportedly from his mom and so it was interesting to see that you know. She spent her life. Savings are in his defense. I i feel like what you're saying about. His knowledge of what was going to happen. Just shows his age so young like a kid essentially and it just that whole case felt very sad in my opinion i think he got mad and maybe he was just messing around or maybe it was a moment of rage. Think you talked in your podcast about how he had this kind of explosion of rage when he would get angry that other people had seen so maybe it was that what struck me as interesting and i don't like to read too much people's reactions after a tragedy because i feel like everybody has a different reaction to trauma pain but he sat in the back. That cop car and he kept saying over and over again was an accident. I love my wife. I love my wife. I love my wife and obviously elliott's your wife. You know if it was an accident when you be saying that was an accident. I didn't mean to do that. The gun just went off. We were messing around but he kept saying he loved his wife and for me that felt like his remorse because in that moment he got so mad that he just went off. That's where i landed on it. A lot of your listeners had commented on instagram saying that he had training and anybody who's had training especially military training knows how to use a weapon and more importantly they know that safety behind it so this excuse that he was cleaning his gun in just went off. Didn't sit well with your listeners. And with people. In general. Although i think what was it. Forty seventy percent agreed with avert verdict and thirty percent disagreed in your instagram paul. How much was it. It was sixty-nine percent agreed with the verdict and thirty one percent disagreed very interesting. Yeah yeah i mean this one was a tough one. I you know i. I don't know. I mean i agree with those who say that you know. He was a military officer. He had training with guns. He was no stranger to how guns worked. So it is kind of hard to wrap your mind around that he had the gun pointed at her head in that it. I definitely don't think it accidentally went off that part. I don't believe so. I guess it would be whether it was something like you said your theory that he reacted in a rage for some reason and he did it and then immediately was like oh crap what did they do. Or if it was like a premeditated plan which obviously intent can be formed. You know in second. So yeah i mean it's just a very interesting case that i figured would garner a lot of buzz around it. It's also one that was obviously covered on forty eight hours. I'm sure dateline probably did one about it too. Just because yeah. It's it's not such a cut and dry case like yeah you know he did it but why and it's something that we may never know absolutely good case. Good goodwin okay. So let's talk about joel guy junior. Who was a doozy. It was hard to listen to. And you gave us a a warning of that so if you listen to it you probably remember it. This was a case about joel guy. Junior who on thanksgiving weekend of two thousand sixteen murdered his mother and father in a very gruesome gruesome way which. I don't know if you have some more details on that. I don't know if you want more details on that but a little bit about why you picked this case. So i picked this case one. It was a pretty popular lawn crime. Trial longtime obviously you know as my partner company and they livestream ditz and so you know when looking through their trial library. I came across this line and assigned ids. It is a very gruesome case. But i think what's fascinating need the most about it is be defense or the non defensive eh retargeting to and just a second as far as gruesome details just to go back to that for a second. That is definitely something that i do not like to cover and when i did come across trial it occurred needs a not. Cover it just kind of due to that reason. I just always think that you never know who's listening i n. I'm going to be talking about a public trial for sure. But if i'm going to be talking about something extremely tragic that happened to this family. How would i feel if i was listening to a podcast. And they were glorifying. Those gruesome details or they were exploiting them. So that's just something that just a personal preference of mine. I don't really like to get into. I felt like with this. It's important to know that he stabbed his father and mother multiple multiple times. I don't believe. I included the exact amount of times in the episode but he stabbed his father at least forty two times and his mother at least thirty times. He then cut away their clothes. Put down plastic sheeting drag their bodies into the observer's master bathroom and then quite obviously dismembered them which you know you you get that in the episode i think because obviously the prosecutor in her opening statements made reference to the fact that he was cooking his mother's head in a pot on the stove which was just awful and like heartbreaking and just it was just or ethic but like i said i was fascinated by the why of it all right so the prosecution said that it was over money because his parents were about to cut him off and that certainly may be but when i read about the gruesome details and heard the testimony. I don't know about you. But i was sort of expecting an insanity defense. Yeah the they would say that. He was mentally ill at the time but they didn't and in fact his defense barely presented any sort of defense at all so since there is nothing about that in the trial i did do a little bit of research to see if i could find anything in the news about any sort of about him having any kind of mental illness or being tested for and there was nothing according to wbai our channel ten news. They said there was no proof that has ever been presented to show that he is mentally ill. And the article states that lawyers and family members say that he's intelligent and knows exactly what he's doing so another thing. I found interesting and this may be related to that is if you remember the letter. He sent to the judge before his sentencing where he requested to be moved because he wanted to gouge out. Another inmates is and in the letter. Which i don't believe i put the entirety of the letter in the episode said quote. I'm writing this letter. Because i don't want to end up with a disciplinary infraction or worse more criminal charges nor do i logically believe that. This gentleman deserves to be blind. I don't know what to do. I shouldn't be allowed access to another person while they're unconscious now. The prosecutor said that this letter was a ploy to get his own jail cell by himself and the judge seemed to think the same. So i don't know what your thoughts were on that. But you know is he really this. I mean he is but was he really this manipulative. I guess that he could say something like that. In order to get a his own jail cell by himself with what were your thoughts on that if he was in there for a non violent crime if he was just your run of the mill criminal. Who's been saying. I'm scared that i'm going to do this or that. I need to be moved then. I might buy. That is just have it. It's just a ploy to get his own sell. This guy clearly am i. Opinion has something going under something there that makes the fact that he didn't have an insanity plea is mind boggling to me because you just don't do this to people that you your family people that you care about the care about you and to do it in such a callous way. There's one detail that he went. As his mother's had was cooking he went to go buy some potato salad and come back. There's something missing there. That's not a normal healthy person. And so because of his history. I do think that that was him saying. Hey i'm going to do something that's not good. I'm trying to give you a heads up on it. And at the end of the day. Either way i think people should listen to him and take that as a call for help versus just an attention grabbing attempt in other words so you feel like he probably would gouge out his like that his You know maybe. I think prison probably does crazy things to people. And they said they're in their own thoughts and maybe he was like okay. I've done this once and i don't want to do it again. Not saying necessarily. He didn't show any remorse. Her say but This was his attempt to say. I don't want to do this again to somebody while the prosecutor and the judge do not agree with you they are. They are far more experienced than our offering a little bit of a different angle here. So the last week. I wanna bring up here. Is that prior sentencing. You know it's customary for state probation officials to conduct a pre sentence investigation. You've probably heard that. The court can use when sentencing a defendant so according to a letter that the department of corrections submitted to the court when the official went to speak with joel guide junior in jail. He refused to see her. The official tried to explain what the visit was four and he refused. She then contacted his attorney. And the attorney said that the pre sentencing report was irrelevant. That joel did not have to talk to her and that they would not be doing the interview so as a result a pre sentencing report. Never done so. I just thought that was a detail that was pretty interesting and relevant also area bizarre case okay. Let's jump to. David dooley have a lot to a lot about this about this. I actually had seen this story somewhere else before previously but learned a lot more to your episode so just as a reminder this was a case about michelle makki who was found dead in her work place in may two thousand twelve. Investigators pretty immediately zoned in on. David dooley who was convicted and then sense to life in prison for her murder and then in two thousand sixteen he would be granted. A new trial somewhere. Evidence came into light. There's a lot here and you had a lot of comments on instagram. This case to around reasonable doubt. So let's talk about it. Why did you pick this case so to the skyler nimitz one. This is a case that i sort of had in the back of my head that i had followed years ago and when a new trial was ordered for him is when i was keeping my eye on it in knew that i wanted to cover it. Interestingly this was a really difficult case to get information about aside from the fact that crime did record their trial feed of his retrial. So from that it was really difficult. My my freedom of information act request was actually turned down multiple times so not really sure why that was but yeah i just. It was an intriguing case. And i was like nope. I'm gonna plug ahead and we're still going to do it okay. So what do you think. What's your opinion so it will first of all. There's a few things. I just kind of want to touch on here. So this case is a mess. And that's another reason why i made me want to cover it. So david dooley was convicted than this mysterious surveillance. Video services of the defense says it never saw then during a hearing it comes out. The lead detective was sleeping with the prosecutor and so the judge ended up ordering a new trial now. How it came out that the prosecutor was sleeping with the lead. Detective is that during that hearing during cross examination. David's attorney blueprinting printing deanna. Denison straight up asked the detective if they had been having an affair and the deductive. I tried saying that they were just friends then he tried. It was none of her business and when he was reminded that he was under oath he then finally admitted it. So i thought that was just a twist that you don't usually hear about in these cases that end while awaiting a new trial for murder and something else that i did just kind of talk about briefly in the episode. I didn't get into too much into it. And mostly that's because i don't have the information regarding it. But while awaiting that new trial he was charged with child pornography offenses and that included possessing or viewing material portraying sexual performance by a minor and using a minor under sixteen in sex performance. And that's according to boone county court records and he actually lied guilty to that now like you said many of my listeners had i guess conflicting viewpoints about this bird. And if you had doubts about the verdict you definitely would not be alone. After his first conviction like found something online where david's family including his wife told reporters at the innocence project was looking at his case and were expected to meet with him so again. That was after the first trial when he was convicted and that was before he got a new trial. So i'm not sure what happened with that. After david ended up getting a new trial anyway and i'm not sure if the innocence project will be involved after the second conviction of no idea but i did think that that was an interesting aside. Yeah very interesting twists like you said lada comments on instagram about reasonable doubts. The husband. I don't know if if two things that stuck with me with the husband why he immediately scrubbed his he gets a phone call that his wife has been murdered any scrubs his computer there was a so there. Were expert testimony like kinda battle a battle of the experts who won said that that program automatically starts up just when you start up your computer and then the defense is expert said no. That's not what happened. So i don't know about so i tend to not think it was the husband. Okay yes what about the ten thousand dollar check. That he doesn't know who has written two so the will because those friends than did say that. I think the the wife of his friend admitted that she had asked him for that money though. But no i. This is definitely something that came up a watch and you know i'm not i have no idea but i just always feel like if we think that there is reasonable doubt or if someone were to think there's reasonable doubt with the defendants and then you present a new suspect as though there's not reasonable doubt bear either in my opinion. I don't think. I could have voted guilty for david julie because of the reasonable doubt and just for me i mean unless i'm one hundred percent sure and i'm on a jury i couldn't do it. I could not sentence somebody. Will you ask instagram. Poll on the bird act and so sixty. Seven percent agreed with the verdict and thirty. Three percent disagreed so the similar breakdown from the sky. Learning case of versus disagree by an interesting split there now so the interesting part of it is for me. It's like it's hard to say you agree with the jury. I feel like there's always chew. Wade's to look at that question. Right like i think about it anyway. I always think about it if i were on the jury. How would i voted cheering this evidence or and that's different for me than do i think he's guilty. Do you know what i mean like personally. I do think that he is likely suspect. And i do think that he's guilty. But i don't know that the prosecution proved was able to prove it. That's just kind of what i think. So having looking at it that way what do you. What are your thoughts on that. Do you think that he personally do you feel that he is probably guilty. And how would you vote for on. The jury is different or is it the same. I think that not everything was presented accurately trial. Maybe because i'm kind of taking this other look at the husband it clouds. It a little bit for me. So i would say wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt for me right and what that says is that the defense was successful in presenting it. This alternative suspect right suspects. Because i believe there was also another warehouse worker that they were winning at as well so that just says that you know at least it got through to a few people. Yeah we'll probably have some updates on that in future episodes since there's some ongoing ongoing stuff happening there. Yeah yeah maybe we'll also see. The innocence project was after the first conviction. So i have no idea if anything is going to happen now after the second one i need to juries did find him guilty after hearing the prosecution's case so we'll stay. Tuned will continue in just a minute ride after this quick break from today's sponsor if you're a business owner you don't need us to tell you that running a business is tough. But you might be making it harder on yourself. The necessary don't let quickbooks and spreadsheets. Slow you down anymore. It's time to upgrade to nuts. We stop paying for multiple systems. 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This was the twelve year old that stabbed nine year old boy to death on a playground. He called on wine. He said that he did it and he wanted the death penalty. Investigators found out that he had been abused himself as a child and he was ultimately convicted. So i think you have some updates for us on that. I do so the last so i think i told you in the episode action. Is that every six months. There's this hearings discussing progress and those meetings are those hearings go until his nineteen birthday which happens to be coming up in a couple months here and at these hearings. They discussing progress. The asked questions they may you know. Loosen some of his restrictions and things of that nature so once he gets to his nineteenth birthday will then be another hearing and at that hearing they decide that the judge will decide whether or not chew. keep him until he's twenty one. And then the on his twenty first birthday they will then revisit everything or he can actually just be released. The judge can decide to release some of his nineteen th birthday so the very last six month hearing was in december two thousand twenty and jemari told the judge that he is ready to be released on his nineteen th birthday he said quote i just feel like i'm ready for something new. So gerard van had been granted permission to spend the holidays with an advocate and her family which he did and that particular advocate has been attending his hearings and she is offered up her home as a place for him to live when he gets out and at that hearing in december the judge asked and he would want to live there and said yes that he. He loves his advocate. Your comfortable there and now the next step is at the next hearing is in march and that is when he's going to be nineteen years old so that's a really big here in coming up so we will see what happens now in my episode when i still the prosecutor she did say that although she is on board with his rehabilitation and she thinks he's making a ton of progress. She's really happy with the track that he's on she's planning on asking for him still be held until he's twenty one. You know just. She just wants to make sure that is much intensive rehabilitation that he can undergo that he does so ultimately. It's up to the judge and the judge's remarks at this last hearing in december were. I continue to the impressed and so pleased about how well you've done in are doing again. I thank you for your continued outstanding. Works here so that'll be really interesting and it come march role. Obviously talk about this again when that happens. But i'm interested to see if he's going to get out on his nineteenth birthday or whether or not they will hold him until he's twenty one. Yeah that's really interesting. This case was so heartbreaking because like a lot of pieces. There's no winners here. It's amazing the progress that he has made especially because of his past abuse but at the same time when you're looking at the family of the dictum no justice will ever be enough for them. So how would they feel having their child's killer released. I don't know but it's just something where you are proud and happy for mary-anne that his days making this progress but then also remembering that somebody lost their lives and there's so many families and people that are in pain because of it so it's just really really tough it will keep us up today on that one braids and also an update from an unlikely friendship which was episode one. Nineteen so this was a case that was about to women who had allegedly tried to murder or did murder their husbands so both women were convicted and became friends. While we're in prison together. So what updates you have on that. So i'm december thirty first so just a few weeks ago. One at birth women nita smitty. Who was convicted for murdering. Her husband was granted a new trial. The fifth district court of appeals found that at trial court judge aired when he denied her new trial after her former attorneys made a mistake. Which i'll get into in a second allowed prosecutors to introduce evidence that was what they say devastating to her case so at her trial and nita's maybe said that she had only shot her husband after he had raped her now during her interview with elise she burst in boca right to remain silent but the officers ignored that continued questioning her so then she then told them that she had stabbed herself as if you remember she had stab wounds on her because she feared that no would believe that she and kills him in self defense now. That statement was initially not allowed in the trial but bridge bernice introduced the nine one. One call that she made where she says. Her husband had stabbed her so because they had opened that door and the prosecution was able to bring that evidence or that statement in and prosecutors can either appeal this decision or getting a new trial. It can go ahead with the new trial or they drop the charges so we will see what happens with that one and thanks to one of my listeners for sending me the update on that one and giving me the heads up awesome. And where will you post when you have updates on issue posted on instagram. So i do. I post those on instagram. I depending on. If there's actually a new trial i would follow the trial then posted up on my patron for the top tier. The judge cheer post update episodes on there. And then also in this little form that we have going in these sidebar episodes. I'll also be picking a couple past episodes and giving updates on them so you can either look at instagram. Join patriot fan or just listen. Hear awesome well in speaking patriae. New had a bonus episode that you released this month. Do you wanna tell us about that. Real quick yeah. I did so i basically just to briefly. I don't wanna give away too much. But i covered chew cases in one episode and wine. It was in two thousand eight is a husband. Wife were found deceased in their home. The husband's death was ruled. A suicide wife's death remains to this day mystery. There were problems in their marriage and the manner of her death is undetermined so kind of a mysterious case. And then i covered a couple in orange county who was accused of raping and drugging multiple women. But they're very complex cases like a battle of district attorneys that led to the case being charged then dropped and it's now sort of in limbo so the funny thing about this bonus episode is that typically just with court junkie in general i only cover cases that have either gone to the court system or are currently and these two cases are kind of up in the air if they'll ever see a courtroom but i still thought that they were pretty. My listeners would find them interesting. And so that's why. I cover those so those can be found on. Hey trian if you go to court junkie dot com slash support that will take you to my patriot on page. And there's two cheers that have the bonus episodes she can see listed out there. Okay so speaking of nieces active cases. Let's talk about cases that we are following right now. Continue to update you guys on each month. That i think joanne. You have a couple a you wanna talk about. Yeah so. I thought that this would be a good segments kind of ad in here just so we can bring other cases to the forefront of our listeners minds this first one takes place in bellevue washington about fifteen miles east of seattle so in july. Two thousand twenty forty eight year old barron lee was walking from his apartment to his car when he heard what sounded like fireworks when he turned around he saw a teenage boy holding a gun. The boy shot him it twice in the arm and leg fell to the ground and then the boy continued shooting at him at seven more times. These shots hit his arm. Legs torso hip. He was laying in the fetal position and somehow managed to survive but his ordeal was not even close to over then in october. Just three months later. Prosecutors ended up charging his ex wife with whom he had been involved in a custody battle with putting a hit out on him. Her name is rose. Kelly and then police also arrested two seventeen year olds and charged them with trying to kill him in exchange for thirteen thousand dollars. Now prosecutors say that. When sharon learned that her ex husband had survived she met up with teenagers again and started plotting with them Try again in fact. One of the teens had sent her a text message and asked when they would be paid after they had shot him in almost critically injured him and she responded quote job unfinished will need to complete unless it resolves on its own in the next month. She told him that her ex husband had unfortunately survived and the teen agreed to try again but before they could continue with their next attempt however they were all arrested. One of the teenagers ended up talking to police and telling the police everything but the other teenager along with the ex wife just retained attorneys and refuse to talk so that's gonna be a pretty concrete case there's phone records e mails. She had placed. Gps tracker on her ex husband's car and then gave information to one of the teens. They're all charged with attempted murder along with some other charges. And we'll see what happens. Like i said i think it's going to resolve itself quickly but you know that or been d- or ex husband i should say you know having live through that. And then knowing that someone he undoubtedly once cared about and shares a child with would try to take his life not once but multiple times it sounds like a concrete case cut and dry. But i wanna know what's going on in this ladies had like. This reminds me of the story that you did on twenty twenty league. Just she was what was her name. Escapes me now. Dip alito bright. How could that name escapes me. She was just a an interesting character and very quotable and some of the things that she said. So i will be interested to hear what happens with this because there is something sinister going on in this lady's mind so another case that i am following on new year's day at a restaurant in orlando florida a waitress and i am probably going to butcher her name. So i'm sorry. But i think her name is flood vein carvalho noticed a couple who sat down with a young boy who was eleven years old. The couple ordered food for themselves but she noticed that they did not order food for the boy. She also noticed that the boy had bruises on his face and arms and so she was obviously understandably concerned. She ended up going to the back writing a note at said. Do you need help. And then she stood behind the parents and held it up so the boy could see it at first the voice shook is had no but then he eventually not yes so she went back and call the police now. The police came and discovered that the boy was being abused not only did he had bruises all over him but the boy told police some horrific details about what his parents put him through at home. And i'm going to spare you the details. But in addition to being physically abused the boy said he also wasn't allowed to eat on a regular basis as punishment. He was taken to the hospital where he was found to be. At least twenty pounds underweight his father was arrested on multiple counts of aggravated child abuse and child neglect and his mother who admitted to police that she knew about the abuse was arrested and charged with two counts of child neglect. According to channel two news the restaurant owner said that the waitress flooding carvalho wasn't even scheduled to work that day but she came in after another server called in sick and the owner also said that the family just happened to be seated at the only table where it would have been possible for her to hold up that sign without the parents. Seeing heads. The orlando police. Chief said that had that waitress not called the police that he believes it would have turned into a homicide investigation. He said that she saved this. Little boy's life so when i saw this i mean as a mother i just you know what amazing instincts on that waitress to identify situation than actually take action on it to actually call the police and to have that frame of mind and to risk herself. I mean the parents could have turned around at any moment and seen her holding up this sign. She could have lost her job. Maybe worse knows so you know they say it takes a village to raise a child and it just kind of reminds me that we're all responsible for the children of the world in a sense if you see something like this. It's so imperative to speak up about it and that woman is an absolute hero in my mind. I definitely have chills listening to this story. And just so thankful that she was there and all the stars aligned for her to be able to help that kid because there are so many situations where there is not somebody else. I think that whatever happens with this cases a reminder to anybody that's listening to just be on the lookout i have two kids. I know i'm always focused on them. But if you can just check your surroundings and see what's happening around you if something you know the saying if you see something say something that is real and has saved lives in so many so many situations so it sounds like so far. This is a good ending for that kid but follow along. Let us know what happens there. Absolutely i will okay. So i'm following a case. They went talk about really quickly. This is a case about molly tibbett. So it's close to home for me. I wouldn't say that there's anything particularly fascinating or salacious about this case but it just is close to my heart so the suspect in this trial the case against him as very strong. Don't anticipate anything going awry here. Bud as i said it's it's close to so molly was a twenty year old student at the university of iowa and at that time i had to younger sisters were both students at the university of iowa. I also went there so the hawkeye family is strong. If anything happens to our hawkeye family we all feel it and so in twenty eighteen. Molly was in her hometown of brooklyn iowa. She went out for a jog on a summer night and she was never seen again and she was missing for a month and during that month that she was missing there was a facebook group that was created for her and thousands of people were sending their thoughts in their well wishes and just praying for a safe return for her and at one point it turned a little bit sinister and there were trolls who were creating fake accounts and making really just very terrible comments alluding to the fact that she was dead that they would never see the light of day again and it was just very unsettling remember. I was on the facebook group Reading the comments. That people are saying as i was reading. This comment popped up from this fake facebook account saying you'll never find her and adjust. It sent chills all through my whole body and made me feel so sick to my stomach. And i was thinking i caught. I hope it. They delete this comment before her family sees and it was just so gut wrenching for a whole month before she was ultimately found. Unfortunately she had been stabbed and of course you know it hit our hometown our hawkeye family so hard that this girl just went out for a run and never returned home and so it was really tough. I followed it then. I'm following it now. They did arrest a suspect and he is on trial. The cases delayed because of covid and this and that but in following it very closely did see that they had requested the defense had requested her bank statements and this was was denied. I'm it just got me thinking. What are they trying to do here. What could they possibly want with her. Bank statements. the evidence against him. Like i said is pretty solid. He was on camera following her as she was running through her hometown. Just other forensic evidence that was found. So i don't know what what they're trying to do their with getting her bank statement information but ultimately that was denied. But i'll be interested to see where this goes and excited for this chase to come to a close and the person who did this to be held accountable for their actions so i will report on this as things happen there. You know i remember hearing about it. But i admittedly don't know the details of the case and then that is not one that i'm following super closely. How awful that. The family had to go through that. Their loved one is missing and then to have people online. Trolling them and saying things like that. It's horrible you wonder what's going through. Somebody's mind. I don't think that this suspect is the person who was doing this. I think it was just really somebody sick. That wanted to get some notoriety in this facebook group but it was very disturbing and heart of this case which. I don't know that the necessarily discussed in any sort of coverage here. But just because i followed it so closely and i saw it happening right away. It just does not sit well with me. I think in addition to holding the suspect accountable. Or the murderer accountable. They need to find these trolls. Who just you know thrive on people's pain aiding bat at some point with social media. And how much that plays. Into today's culture. There will be punishment for people who do things like this because it is very harmful to to the family and just general public to make a mockery of somebody's paying. It was really really hard so okay so those are the cases that were covering now. I assure you that we will keep you up to date on on those something else that we want to talk about. Is phil spector. So phil spector recently passed away in prison and the media coverage over. His death was to put it lightly. Disheartening and i saw a couple of headlines that were appropriate. And then i saw many headlines that were not appropriate for this so jillian Walk us through. What happened here so same as you. I saw a lot of headlines. That were fine. But i saw some. That made my blood boil to be quite honest with you. So in two thousand nine at phil spector was convicted of murdering forty year. Old alana clarkson. Lana was an actress. And phil was a music producer. They met at the house of blues in los angeles. One night went back to phil's house where he shot and killed her. He tried to claim that she had killed herself. But the jury didn't buy that nor did honestly most people and he was convicted in two thousand nine and serving a nineteen years to life in prison sentence and just a couple of weeks ago like you said. He passed away while in jail some reports said that it was natural causes others say he contracted covid nineteen whatever the case a lot of the media coverage especially on twitter. You know was less than desirable and some examples. Rolling stone tweeted quote. Phil spector the famed wall of sound producer. An architect of some of pop music's most enduring songs whose legacy was marred by murder conviction has died at the age of eighty. So what is your take on. What do you think when you hear that. Yeah blood boil is a good way to put ed just with the molly tickets case in talking about the family and respect for the family. Where is the respect here for the victim. Right now are you. Are you monitored by murder conviction. It just trivializes it. And it's just like an aside. That they put in there after they raved calling him a famed producer and architect pop music most enduring songs while all of that might be true. You can't just throw in that. His legacy was marred by murder conviction. So bbc's tweeds red talented but flawed producer. Phil spector dies aged eighty one so they didn't even mention the fact that he had killed anybody. They call him talented but flawed. I mean that's not a flaw killing. Somebody is not a flaw. If is very bizarre now. They did later apologized because there was a lot of backlash for that headline and they changed it. To pop producer jailed for murder dies at eighty one. Which is better but you know again. It was just like those two examples. Specifically i saw that and was like what that is not okay so it's bizarre for sure okay. So we have a couple of listener questions for you. If you're ready let's do it. Okay and core we do these sidebar episodes. We're going to record them at the end of every month right so if anybody ever has any questions that you want to ask about us or things you want us to talk about or feedback certainly let us know go to court junkies instagram. Or you can send an email to podcast or junkie dot com. You can tweet us at court. Junkie pod just a myriad of ways. Choose submit a listener question. Absolutely it's got a couple of good ones for you as the first is. Do you think you'll cover any canadian court cases in the future will. This is an excellent time to plug. One of my favorite podcasts and podcasters canadian true crime by christie lee. Cristea is an australian actually who moved to canada years ago and she covers the most fascinating trials cases in canada. So i just wanna put that out there because honestly i adore her so much. We have a very similar style. So i guess it'd be like court junkie. Wanna hear canadian cases it makes sense to definitely give her podcast chance as far as measles. Canadian true crime is far as me covering canadian cases. Don't rule it out. And in fact. I would love to do some kind of collab- with christie and i have done a few cases in the past. I'm just off the top of my head coach. Legible cough he was one of candidates youngest serial killers and jr. Richardson was like it was like an episode. Six was the twelve year old. Who murdered her entire family or fine case that was also in canada. So yes i would. I am interested in covering canadian cases. It's not as familiar for me. You know to know where to get certain information and things like that. And to follow the cases i believe. They're a little bit more guarded with our information. So but i would actually love to do some kind of collaboration with christy. From canadian true crime that would be my ideal right kristie. Remove court okay. So i love. The session is creek. Junkie your primary job or do you have a day job as well well. My primary job is some mom in august. Today it is my primary job. It didn't start out that way. I actually i think. I've said this before in another episode or another interview. But i did end up leading my day job. Chew start this podcast. But i had freelance marketing work lined up for myself so i was doing work for. I believe it was at least three other companies at the time. While i was working court junkie and i had to get really scrappy with it. In approach some local companies some local companies and ask if they would please advertise on my little podcasts. That i was starting and with each contract that i was able to secure just like bought me more time before i would have to then go back out there and you know. Get working in the in the workspace again so it is my full time job. Luckily in april of two thousand seventeen. I was able to sign with an advertising company and or junkies just luckily grown. Since then so yes. This is my fulltime job. My baby all of it. Okay so i looted to this at the beginning. And i'm interested because i don't know this story so jilani said that the other day you had an incense which reaffirms that you are truly a court junkie so you want to hear the story. Is that funny. When i put this on our little agenda is like okay. I've just just let me kinda here. So this is something that i don't know. I'm just guessing that a lot if my listeners can relate no certainly you. Can you know back years and years ago when you realized that you liked watching discovery. Id or court tv and you liked following these types of cases and you liked watching true crime documentaries things like that. It wasn't as mainstream. So i feel like it was more so like this little kind of club where you talk to someone you'd be like. Oh my gosh you liked to crime to so do i like that kind of thing and now it's jeff initially more mainstream. I think true crime is one of the most popular genres and podcasting at least probably in documentaries too but from time to time i am just reminded of my little oddities. That reminds me that. I'm a core junkie so for example. This happened to me last week. My husband actually woke up before me which is very rare. I always the first person awake in my household even beat my two year old daughter and making up a just constantly up to get a good cup of coffee going verse so my husband actually was awake for me and he asked me when i woke up. He was like what was leila's like her. She's got this little writing motorcycle said why was leila's motorcycle at the bottom of the stairs like that was really weird and i was like oh like i forgot to move it but that was. It's part of my ritual at night time and i. It's so funny. Because i don't even think twice about this. I just do it. So i am just always terrified. That someone's going to break in most likely during the middle of the night. So i will booby trap my house so that like i make sure that you know we. We can wake up if we hear somebody in the house. So you know we do have an alarm but it's more than that you know you can always trust alarms about quirky. We're not we do dog have a dog but he's a small dog came. My dog will not go nuts with kisses He will go nuts. But you don't just still like to booby House so but usually i don't even think twice about it. I wake up in the morning. And i'm the first one so then i just move everything kind of backs. My husband had no idea that i even do this. You know and there's like other things that i'll do to you. Know to kind of like booby-trapped the house but that was just one that kinda got caught and it just made me think of you know like when you remove yourself from the situation like what sort of things do you do. Because i'm sure. I can't be the only one who does stuff like this. I m right. I'm kind of laughing at you. But i'm also remembering that when my husband and i went on our honeymoon we ended up staying at had like an unplanned trip to a different island and we ended up staying in a hotel where we didn't bring anything with us. We had taken a boat to this hotel to this island and stayed overnight without anything. It was unplanned and be mad. A ton of people on the way are telling everybody guide. This is totally random. We just came over here for the night runner honeymooning and that ended up getting a hotel room to stay overnight and as we got into the room i was thinking we are at the. I don't even know where we are. I have no cell phone reception. We have told so many people that we are on our honeymoon that we are familiar with wherever at or what we're doing and i started to have some major anxiety and so my husband passes out and i start to booby trap our hotel room because it was kind of like it was a hotel room but it was also kind of a sweet and there were windows that you could just open up and so i took a broom and put the broom you know under the door handle and then i put some silverware on top of the window over the sink so yeah i feel you i save time story is like okay gelian. I've definitely done or not on a regular basis because my dog will just absolutely go crazy. But i've done it before so i feel you there okay so it not even booby trapping but like there's other things as well like so for example you just mentioned going out of town vacation. I can anywhere. We go like especially in the united states. I can easily think about a case that occurred there or a missing person may be or a trial or something like that. It's like this weird sort of talent that i have. You know what i mean. It's like i don't wanna like ever tell. My husband was like okay. Like i mean i i have before but like i don't think he knows that every time i can do it but yeah so it's just another way okay. So this is fine. So if you're listening to this if you have an experience a thing a nuance that really proves that you are court junkie that it is in your blood and it to gillian at he on instagram. And then we'll share those next time. Because i think that that will be really interesting to hear totally an actually better yet. If you can create an instagram story telling your story and just tag korchagin it. We will re post that on corgis instagram and we will talk about it on our next episode too. I love it. Yes i would love to hear everybody's stories to know that we are not alone. Yes we're not alone. So i think that's all for us. We had a really awesome. Awesome first episode of sidebar covered. A lot. can't wait to continue to do this every month as jillian mentioned before if you have any questions or any thoughts on any cases send to jillian on instagram or e mail carrier pigeon. Whatever your mode of of communication is and we'll talk about. It sounds good. Thank you so much britney and thanks to all of you for listening slash watching at these episodes were going to be released saying every month on court junkies main feed and then we also will be hosting a video version of this. So if you'd rather watch us talk about this stuff you can subscribe to our youtube channel. 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Episode #1803 The New Phil Hendrie Show

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Episode #1803 The New Phil Hendrie Show

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We're doing your laundry. Hello I'm Bobby Julie. This is thirty days of. Next thirty days by wife Bobbie Dooley will fill Henry show website. To to talk about the things, he does the things she's done. Bobby Tilly. I'm a mother and a wife and is the president of the Western states homeowners association a gated community in the suburbs of Los. Angeles. My wife Bobbie. Dooley. We'll tell you about parenting being a teacher or at least being the parent who tells us what to do. West of the states homeowners association isn't just a gated community. It is a carefully cultivated community that my husband and I Steve Duly, and me Bobby Tilly, had been overseeing that for the last twenty five years. Twenty five years uninterrupted of being the president and vice president. Of the Western Estates Homeowners Association. Join, US. As. We tell you how to do it because a lot of you don't know how. Bobby Duly. The Western States Homeowners Association? It's Bobby Duly, thirty days of Bobby. 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A lot of people have wondered, how was I able to balance the demands of being a mother and a wife with being a homeowners association president, and so many more questions and so many more answers that need to be answered bobby here's a letter. This is from Christina Bucher who lives in the face and she says bobby every time. I. Try to ask you why the men's room is left wide open on weekends with children walking by your choice. T tell me it's none of my beeswax. WHO's that Christina Bucher Christina. I'm simply saying to you that I'm the Homeowners Association President I'm going to see that I don't need you bugging me about it. That's all. Yeah. Because Casino. Just did IT STIF? Here's another letter this is from doc known me and doctrine me is he says he's on the landscape, committee I don't I've never heard of him. He says he is. He says, MS? Duly promise to replace the broken sign edge at the entrance on King Kong Boulevard how come you haven't done it yet. You know something doc. Why don't you just let me take care of that OK an awful lot of people are such busy bodies that you're constantly bringing up things that are broken or things that need to be replaced I this on top of it. Okay. I know what's broken I know what needs to be replaced and sometimes guess what I wanted to look broken because I want to give the place a lived in look I want it to look like a place that people actually live in and that sometime signs get broken sometimes there's lights out sometimes. Yes. Their cars and we leave the wreckage there on the side of the road either on King Kong Boulevard or mighty Joe. Young. Lane. Stuff like that. Thank you. Bobby. Here's another question. This is from Angie Kuntz and she lives in the daffodil phase Angie is asking. Is there anything wrong with asking your husband's Steve to put his privates back into the briefs that he's wearing instead of walking around talking to people holding a drink with his testicles swinging free now there's nothing wrong with that. I'd rather do that and I appreciate your question but. In the future and I know who you are in the future, I'll address my husband. Okay I don't like it when other women walk up to Stephen Say Excuse me would you put your? You know what I understand that Steve is crude he's vulgar. He's my husband he's sitting right here you're listening to Steve. And he's taking what I'm giving him right now I'm giving him. No end of Hell. No end of living hell on earth but I'm saying him Steve. You are a vial vulgar pig. Okay. Do you understand? You deserve to be yoked and colored and put into a pen not a stall but a pin where you will difficult freely until I decide that you're housebroken enough to be allowed back into the house. So what does that have to do with you walking around the pool where there are women and children I know I? Children I know Bobby. I. Mean. got that. You forget that you're wearing briefs. Because you apparently think you've got speaking of Mighty Joe Young you think you've got mighty Joe Young. Times to swinging around in your briefs No you don't. Okay. So we're a smaller pair of briefs. And so you're not walking around with hanging out otherwise I'm GONNA have to go up to you slap your face and you don't want that I don't like it publicly. I can't have other women noticing it. Steve. I have to notice it. All right, bobby. Thank you for here is another letter this is from. Theresa Yuga. And Theresa lives in Gardenia Phase and she asks dare Bobby. You're so arrogant that you play hail to the chief when you walk into a Homeowners Association meeting are you kidding with that? Why would I be kidding? It's simply the theme music of the President of United. States. Well, I'm not the president of the United States I'm the president of the Homeowners Association of Western states. There's a spall similarity there United States Western states. So I play off of that. Do I think I'm as important as Mr President is, of course I don't. Think what I have to say and the things that we contribute to the Western states homeowners association Oh my God, I'm tired. Bobby duly letters to the Western states homeowners association president. We'll be, right back. Bobby duly show on the world famous Phil Hendrie show websites. Guys don't forget that we want your Hashtag on a photograph of you wearing or holding a piece of Henry Merchandise. We WanNa Hashtag that says, Phil. Hendrie show. 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Don't know if I'm really going to be on thirty days straight I told Mr Henry died like to do that. He said okay. But then I said I reserve the right to change my mind. And He was kind of rude about that. He said would you can't. Change. Your said why not I do it all the time and he said because. It's really boring, but he wants to go back to Florida after he has this physical he is supposed to take. Yes. He's supposed to take some physical. He's GonNa Flora and if he's going to go to Florida Well okay. Then he goes to Florida what's that gotTa do with me? Exactly what's that got to do with Bobby who's my wife and then if it has to do with a has to do with me to By extension. Yeah by by extension so. What's that got to do with her? Let's go over to Dave all of who is at our security gate. Davis with the Western states, homeowners, association, security, and the reason why we're bringing you up right now dave is that. thirty days of Bobby combined with Mr Henry possibly leaving town. I don't know what he has to do with anything, but I'm feeling very insecure. I understand. We're going to endeavor. As much as we can can whatever extent that we can to make it feel secure Can you tell me a little bit Dave about? How. It's all done. How does it all fall together? Well. We have a staff here. To to know it wasn't too long ago that I was a student at Kenyon. College I was studying to go into law enforcement and we'll sleep lapd but I had a career change felt like doing private security for my thing was kind of like little where I was going where I was that. Sort of where my head was that you. and. We'll all to. Arrange to. Security. Will we hit? Western. States Homeowners Association a security team. which we fired last year not because they did it wrong just because I got tired of looking at them and we brought you on board Dave because. Like Steve Said what did you say Steve talked talked a lot of bullshit. Talk. hitter could we just not use that word? You can say that I was talking back but I don't want to go. We got rid of the other guys because we had instances where people were getting onto the property off the King Boulevard. The flag was being flown at half, staff A lot of people say that the American flag, cannot be. Flown Underneath. The Western states, homers associated flag, and so we put the Western states homeowners association flag under the American flag and it looked like it's playing half-staff. We'll let this happen I mean if you play below the American flag, it looks like staff. Was How do we correct that? Side above American flag but a Lotta people would feel about that. It's worth the chance. It's probably worth the chance. So why don't you go ahead and do that? Okay. But I mean, you know I had guys in the army stop by it had a former military and they combine to go what about you know and they'll get into their truck. Don't give us a big story. Don't give me a whole nursery rhyme just doing. Okay. Do. What is that? What we want man. Okay. He's trying to get on boulevard. This is interesting. Someone is trying to enter the property from King Kong Boulevard these are usually teenagers. Let's go on a ride along we're going to go with the Dave now. I'M GONNA take. US. Yes. I'm going to get down there to the. Police station now about an hour later. Hit correct. Here. Would happen. So I'M GONNA do. We're walking right now. We still it's my son. What are you doing? This award. Huntington sisters. You're looking in the window to come sisters weren't you? Did I had a smack your face. Kinda here dad looked at them. Why can't I? I I? Feel I'm entitled to the things thing. Same things he is. You got me there. Okay. Let's Split Kim. Smack the. No inspects kid only me and not in the mood. Come on. Let's go fired up. Look the feel of that semi leg. Because the guard gate. Two hours later, the only the guard gate right now. My wife WanNa go rhino with. Let's. Let's go back to the studio. 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Up. HARDENER language fucked up. Although we are the people that were selling anal do. So why do we care about language at this point? Or Heaves for heaves for he's costing six men, their lives for heaves heaves. Aimal Douche. Now back to thirty days of Bobby. Bobby. And Steve Delay on the world. Famous felt Henry Show. Beast. I thought, I. Would Bring on Woman that I've had my run INS with to kind of clear the air or at least let's just get it out on the table. Let's lay it there. and Get out on the table and get it out on the table. Yeah, and so I invited her in. But work here. Yes, I. Do this is Phil Hendrie Studios. Films Very graciously contributed to us the use of the Phil Hendrie Show Studios? Because, our studios at Western states are not yet. Built. Now you've been building those well. Wait a minute. You've been building those students for six years. We started. Is this how this is going to go I'm simply if you don't want if you don't want to talk about it, but you've been building those studios for a long time we have. It was a toss up as to whether or not we WANNA to. Yeah. This is bad. This is starting bad. Well. What's all right never mind? I'll drop the subject altogether. But you've you've already brought enough. All right. Well, I'm sorry this gentleman that I brought up a subject I'll deal I'll address it. We started building our studios. Well, what do you do that? Bobby good. You know what's going to make me look bad. Well, that's too bad. She wants to we started building this duty of six years ago Steve ran out of money. Oh, I thought he had the widely successful. Don't push it bargain. Okay. Oh Steve. Duly it's nothing unusual for a man to have financial problems. We don't have financial problems I. Just felt the money was best funneled. Towards something else not building a radio studio. We had other needs and we saw those part of those needs of course, something that you have constantly criticised something that has constantly been in the. Barrel if you will a lot of people are the topiary 's that represent my breasts Glenda Wilson Johnson. Cami Brown Burstein. McKay. Keeping Track of WHO's breast out front body. Well, if you did I'm just telling you and of course, winsome Ettlin. Who is the late winsome? Ninety eight when she died and I think the topiary you have of her breasts is insulting to her memory. Oh my God talking about what are you talking about I'm saying you've got a topiary out there representing. This elderly woman's breasts and the bushes are dead. Okay. Haven't watered him weeks having wanted months. Well, that's. You don't get a deal you. Ladies did. Okay. And that's what her daughter boobs but that's what. That's what they looked like dead and Okay Steve Tomorrow Morning. Tear them the hell out of there. Oh my God I said to tear them out. There you happy. Yes. As a matter of fact I am I think a woman should be dealt with with respect all my with respect body. Miss Grey I have done nothing, but be nice to you down through the years. Yes. Okay. Stephen ambushed you behind the sentence sleep but that was because you had given me an amount of lip. Yeah, it was record-breaking I'd never had a woman get this far from my nose. Breathe into my face, not caring what? mouthwash not caring at all and I'm the one that said to your mouthwashes and making it. No you didn't Bobby I did yes. I did alright you did. And you still yelling at me talking to me about my son spray painting swastikas on that temp. You know your sons are incorrigible delinquent. How dare you know they? Are you know it's true and Yellow Ladies Ladies? Ladies. You know? What do you want? Why do you have to argue about it? Well, it is a good point. We may have more in common than we know here's Mr Henry Online to. For Christ? Did you call him? No, he called in. Yes. Hi, feel. It's spotty duly listen I. I don't want to tell you guys that do the show but I thought I would because you're starting to get into an argument loop and I thought it would be better if the audience here what you guys do have in common that's a very good idea. Well, that's news to me that you think that that's a good idea. Well, I, it's okay. I mean I understand whoever? Wants to do it I. Think it's a great idea. She thinks it's a great idea feel because we had almost had her ass kicked behind this asleep and then she turned it around on you I, get it tuned around. There were two of us. One of her whistle bats you guys were hitting their with all I'm trying to. Say is you guys may have more in common as mothers wives than you have you know being each other's throats and all thank you very much. It under advisement. All right. So, you hung up on the field. Yes I did. What do you WanNa talk about what do we have in common I think what we have in common is the fact that we both. Have Sons. You have three I have one. That's right. But my one son. Is What? My son Jason J. Deal Monica was better than. What a pig what up. I would say that, what do you expect me to say your sons were arrested for spray painting swastikas on a synagogue God you know I mean, they saw it on TV they saw it on TV. They saw the men that were marching in Charlottetown and they thought that looks like it'd be fun Charlottetown about Charlottesville so they thought it would be fun. Do you understand what that symbol represents? I told them later believe me I. Let them know I don't need. You, helping me with my son's the police came and talked to them. Stephen I both tied all three boys to the bunk beds don't interrupt. We tied all three boys to the bunk beds with a simulated whipping. We did didn't glove on them but we pretended as if we were going to flay the flesh off of their backs, I even told them what it was going to feel like all three were in tears and then we said we're only kidding, right And you did what? I'm not going to repeat that. So you put your through torture. Oh my so you think it's that's that's worse than actually wedding the leather and flaying the skin from their backs we were trying to scare them so they wouldn't do it no more and we succeeded they haven't done it no more. You know something you've got me complete. speechless. Thank you. You're not ending this now I have to move on okay. I'd like to speak to Mr Henry. please. You talking to me? Are you the one on the phone Yeah. He's my husband talked to. Call it. Mr. Henry from Minnesota. Greek. God Damn. ROOKIE RIGHT BACK Bobby and Steve Duly. Fifty days of Bobby. Returns on the world. Famous Phil Emery show in just a moment. Hi I'm Bobby Duly at Western states we have the circle of taste myself and five girlfriends who know the best clothing we know the best perfumes and Colognes we know the great vacation spots we just know what looks best feels best and is best for ourselves and our families. We have a Lotta gals that want to join our circle of taste. Now, you too can be part of the circle of taste. That's right. All you have to do is go by Bobbie Dooley twitter account and Hashtag circle of taste. Once you do and we can verify that you're a female you are. In the circle of taste. Now, you won't have voting rights for at least a year and rules could change but we close our circle taste enrollment in one week's time. So get over to bobby duly twitter that's twitter DOT COM forward slash B. O. B. B. E. D. O. L. E. Y., and make sure you Hashtag circle of taste you have to be a female and we will register within one week five do members. Yoke can be a member of the circle of taste just go to the what's wrong with you anyway I don't know I gotTa take a dump just go to. Go to twitter dot com forward slash bobby duly. Yeah. You don't get voting rights and you have to keep your mouth shut. We got a size. Yup Look over but you are a member of the circle taste probationary. Back to Bobby Steve, duly, fifty days of Bobby. Thank you everyone Delia. Horn is on the line she has from her party planning. Business. Over there at the Western states mall and I wanted to just talk with your briefly about. Planning for the summer tackler the on again off again, nature of it and you have been involved with us as much as anyone. Over, the last couple of years in dealing with the summer tackler. Give me some sense when you see me coming through the door, you know it's summertime. Don't you? We've come to know bobby that when we you getting out of your. Corvette Your Banana Yellow Corvette in Georgia Banana. Yellow. Pants. You don't have to. Know that you have. To hold it. I told him that when you saw the banana yellow corvette in the banana yellow pantsuit. Yes. Get Ready. It's summer tack at a time. I just didn't want it to become such an issue. It becomes an issue because someone had missed it one year. I think they. They didn't see you for whatever reason they weren't ready and you came in and started throwing things around the store. Well. Yes. You did. You took a few fly your. Flowers out of the vase and through them around the store. Steve Duly. God Don't you remember me Delia, I do remember you. Okay, how come you still want my wife's business and you states visits even my wife throwing around the store. Yeah. What about that? Throw it around the store, but he's talking about her rear end. That's supposed to mean I'm trying to be on point here with yourself and your husband. Miss Duly. Yes. You came into the store once and you were wearing your banana yellow pantsuit and the banana yellow. Corvette was out there in the driveway and I mean in the parking lot and one of my employees missed it, and because of that, you understand for two minutes and you begin throwing flowers out of the parts you were cursing blue streak. Well, what would you do if for? For at least three years, your store had been. A store that you relied on you being you but also you being the person that owns the store. I'm talking about what if you were me and you rely on you and you you didn't. You didn't do what were supposed to do. This is why I I really, I'd much rather not have your business. What are you talking about I travel? Not Have your summer packet of business. He Gets I. DON'T UNDERSTAND A mother fucking. You're talking about you. least by. Gentleman I. Apologize. This is bobby. Duly that was Delia. Horn? From Horn par party planners in the Western states mall. I've never been spoken to like that before I'm not quite sure. How to respond to what just happened. Yes We had made an issue out of one of her employees not attending to my needs. Because, we have been regular customers and deal had been regular planner of the Western states summer tackler I told them. Hunting wait a minute Steve. I said the banana, Yellow Pantsuit the banana yellow corvette it means I'm here I want party I want the summer tackler that's always going to say the summer tackler. The banana yellow you see the banana yellow pantsuit and the banana yellow corvette how can you miss that and yet they missed it and so I stood and waited for three minutes for this young men hector. To finally, get to me and I had lost at that point and yes, I took a bunch of roses I think what was it Steve? There are some sunflowers sunflowers mix. Amidst missed basket yeah a mixed basket makes. Some. Roses and threw him around the store and said I never don't ever darken my door again. And then she came in and said, no, don't you ever darken my door and I said oh? Aren't you? Cute aren't you such a smart ass? But then she said let's let's cool down right then CH- Darlene said let's cool down And I did and that you know she's on the show. and. Screams, she just screamed like wild like a wild scream. There you go. Screams like a wild ape and curses. On the phone who is Delia is it Darlene Delia? It's what's your name What's your name? I know I know their last name is is is horn. Is a corner Horn Horn corn. Okay. What's your name? Your First Name Delia? What are you let God? She just yelled me being called me and asked period whole period. I don't know what that means when we. To. Deal you're. Trying to be patient with you are you here to apologize sorry, I'm very sorry that I started the screen, but you don't understand bobby it's very frustrating try to get through to you. I may be very frustrating to communicate with, but we bring you a lot of business you're here. Three Years Your Business Poodles with US fifteen hundred dollars over two three years because I make a lot of decorations that we already use. Middle School do it. All my God. You gave him his secret. You gave away the secret that should not be ever be uttered. When you said the F. Word. You just said the F.. Word. All right but. Music you're playing. Steve Dooley will be right back. Writing. Bobby. Duly show with Steve Duly her husband and fifty days bobby. brought to you by trenching toothpaste. All you do is put it on the brush and brush that's all you've got to do. It surprising how many people don't get it? 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It's time now for just pulled in from Texas you didn't even know I was around segment and this is the segment. I'm always telling our gals to listen to this is when we get our Western states, homeowners, association husbands, and men to talk about the weight that their wives had put on and how it feels as if they just put it in from Texas. Right Steve Yeah there's this a segment that I kind of came up with. And I said to my wife body. So you know it's just like I just pulled in from Texas and you don't even know him around realize put on. She's got that little extra. This is what we call the extra five, the five or dive that you put on the back you know the back buttocks and next thing you know what's the difference between a sleek sweet little figure and Gargantuan cleaned the apes so we're GONNA talk to. His the first one. Let's see. We got crew here crew Hinson and crew is. Lives over in a magnolia. Faiza you got back from a business trip to find out what I got back from a business by the way Steve, how are you and Bobby Nice to talk with you? how you doing Steve. I got back from a business trip here two weeks ago I had been in Las Vegas and Then went south end up Phoenix couple of days and I just pulled into town here on Thursday night looking forward to a weekend with my wife and she came out said hello, I said, Hi Baby I kissed her and I I gave it squeezes I always do and then I asked her to do a turn I said, wait a minute and she was kind of wearing a shirt that was hanging over the but. It's a bad sign. It sure is said, give me a little turn and I lifted skirt up while you're at it was it was. Was it was the extra five? The it was fiber dive. Happy. With either fiber diet but it was definitely. You know I just told us about. Listen thanks a lot just pulled in from Texas. Disappointed of a lot of men. Next to next caller Steve. Choice Choice. What's going on man? Pre. Within San, Diego, Per Week I. Suspect Pool Equipment and when I got home. my wife was asleep and I don't think she was expected I noticed she was asleep on her stomach in the bedroom and I took a look. At said, man I. Hope My eyes aren't to see me but let's be like she packed down on the five five. Acre in. Sometimes I do sometimes they just take our word for this baby I said baby just. Talking about peanut butter, jelly butter, Jelly sandwiches, or what you're doing. She said, you know what? He was putting a few extra bananas in a way shake. And she said once I did that I just I went ahead and went to the store boss imply. Man Debt is terrible a Boston cream pie. Yeah. So did you feel like you just come home unexpectedly? I felt like I just walked in on her while she was thinking covered by dies. I man, sorry about that choice choice choice. Choice? Bowen is one of our. He's a great swimmer. I love to see around the pool this summer choice. Break League. Be. Youtube what's that? What's between you to? This nothing going on between don't worry about it. That's I just pulled in from Texas. You didn't even know I was around segment. Just, pulled in from Texas. Sending about the size of my ass? No, no no no. Bobby Ann Steve Duly. We'll be right back. Hi this is Bobby Dooley I know it's difficult when your husband your boyfriend is out of town either hunting trip or a fishing trip or maybe he's even doing work and when he gets home, you don't have that nice tight sleep figure that you wish you had. You at that figure that looks exactly like a twelve year old boys no rear end. No chest. Straight up and down twiggy. If. You put that five to die five pounds on your rear end. Its portrayal feels as if he's been betrayed. The bobby duly fiber diet. The fiber diet is simply this one banana that's for breath kissed. Then lunch one hardboiled egg then for dinner win banana. Dooley's fiber dive. Diet. Do it. Do it, Diet. Or Die. Make him feel like he just pulled in from Texas. Bobby, duly fiber dive diet one banana. Are you laughing absorb Ever, laugh at my wife against. Bobby duly fiber dive I'll do it honey. Thanks Steve. bought. Bobby duly five five. One but one banana one and one banana. You're laughing I will get you a live. I'm not to go nuts. Don't make him feel as if he just pulled from tacitus. Today's Bobbie Dooley thirty days of Bobby. I'm bobby doing. St Billy. Steve's talking a little funny because I slapped his face I know Mr Henry doesn't like either. So Steve I apologize. Thank you. Bobby Duly. Thirty days, of Bobby executive produced by Phil Hendrie, for INC alright reserved on podcast one. Join me again tomorrow for another thirty days of Bobby. Don't forget the Hashtag Phil. Hendrie show merged any picture of yourself wearing or holding a piece of Phil Hendrie show Merch. 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Hour 2: 5/15/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 2: 5/15/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by Capital, One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees, or minimums, that can be opened in five minutes, Capital, One. What's in your wallet Capital, One NA member? FDIC. Cried passion, then patterns re of college football leagues here. This is the Paul finebaum show, our to podcast. We raise the second hour in Vince Dooley will join us shortly. Glad you're with us here on a Wednesday right? Smack in the middle of the month of may wear this year going. Give back to the calls at eight five five two, four to seventy eight five and to San Antonio. We go Hilo Matt. Hong. Sorry hang up there for a second. My multiple call me some sorry, I hang up the phone for secondary. Apologize about the poll or good man. Call and talk to you go JIMBO Fisher say about taxation program in dressy name thinks is going in. I know they talked asked them about the schedule this year NEC, he more the challenge with opportunity for his team to get better into proofs or the country. How much of a good team they can become because I know a lot of people nine that you see in general, but mostly sent people in touch, you don't think any good program, and JIMBO is you won't respect. Get Ernie in teams that nobody checks, you two feet like Alabama the Clintons down issues as okay? Let's stop right there. Give me give me. Let's let's cut to the chase here. Give me a specific reason why am should be able to win at Clemson or at home against Alabama. We wanted one at home against Alabama to this at home, and the secondary this year looks a lot more better than it was last year. I think Ayman has over fighting chance. This year is secondary game better to beat him this year than had last year. Call housing could be Clinton by building to gonna be out damaged your signatories will be much better than what your all. You know, I don't agree. But we have. Games too far off to get into to serious argument over that. Thanks for the call. Rod is in Texas. You are next up. Oh, thanks for taking my call. Thank you don't talk long because he's international calls expensive. But I'm in Saint Andrews with Brooks kept we got one for Jim that Brooks wins instead of tiger. Jim in a hard time figuring out where the he's I think he thought the just wanted the PGA to be at Augusta's. Well. You know what yoga pants stupidity and Jim having common, which out the truth always feels out That's great. Listen, there's nothing wrong with predicting tiger to win. He is favourite. That's not like predicting John Daly to win the PGA. Kenny is in West Virginia. Hello Kenny, you're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey Paul how you doing? We are doing great. Thank you. Well, I saying, you know, you know, Conway Twitty to say Mississippi woman, Louisiana day, and they get together every time they can that's great. But I got two things I things as the quickey, do do you think that John v LAN took a step down into the Cavaliers? I've been going for a big fish in a big pond. Two small fish in a big pond. Kennedy. No, I don't for this reason. I think sometimes people reach the end of the line, sixty six years old. He's been to two final fours. I think he had he has to know that, you know, the, the upward mobility beyond that is pretty rough, especially with Michigan state doing what it has done getting to the final four this year as well. So I think he, he, he, he looked at this is okay. This is one last shot. Ed glory. It's a different set of circumstances. The standards in Cleveland have gone from championship series to disaster, and I mean, if I had to predict he'll get fired and a couple of years, but he's making a lot of money. And I think he just wanted to change of scenery. I mean who doesn't want to spend winters in Cleveland, Ohio? Well, you know, I guess, you know, face is, you know, year in year out is enough to make you. Yeah. If you wanna. I think one thing, people don't realize that you're someplace a long time and you don't know the inside out. You don't know the relationship of maybe he's just simply reached his max and was enticed by a lot of money, and probably I wouldn't say it's easier in the NBA, but you cut the recruiting out and your lifestyle, probably improved slightly, not greatly, but slightly. Well, the thing is, you know, I want to own a challenge up here to GM from Pittsburgh, Tuscaloosa. I say tiger no way inhale wins this weekend. And I'm willing to make him away or if, if tiger wins, I won't call in the rest of this year. And if tiger does it Lynn, then jam can't call in the rest of this. That's a, that's a bad that you would get a lot of support on all I know. I just I knew I was gonna make a whole lot of people happy because he won't you know, not take a bet you know, 'cause especially all of a sudden he's just talking about tiger. So GM here's my challenge. Take my bath make a whole lot of the one thing I would say tiger and Goth is different in twenty nineteen and it was in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine two thousand and four. I mean they're, they're just so many other guys out there that can win. And I think sometimes fans of tie. Tiger just forget that I listen to his win at Augusta. That was an awesome come the odds of that happening the next time or not. Yeah. No golf is golf is it's a different game. But we'll find out. We'll see if Jim Jim will agree to that. I bet he won't. Paul is up next in Florida. Hello, paul. You doing ball? Hey there. I was just curious on what you think the Gators their expectations for the coming years. Their win loss record. It'll be and how much I'd actually depends on Philippi, Frank. I think it depends a lot on Felipe Frankfort. I, I think I'm trying to maybe the guys in the other room can look up with the over and under is, but I, I would think it's expectations whether whether between whether it's or in Gainesville, I would think, in Gainesville, they're pretty high nine or ten wins Vegas may not have them as high. But, but, but I think. When you win when you win nine games in your first year, I don't think you wanna go the other way to you. Right. Exactly. Thank you for the call. Appreciate it very much. A Bart is up next in Georgia. Hey bart. Hey, paul. How are you today? Very well. Thank you. I know nobody's thinking about this now 'cause there's a long way off. But when the national championship game does come around. It such a bummer that it's on a Monday night. You know, you can't get friends and family together and watch it because everybody's gotta go to work the next day, and I was just wondering is college football fans. What could we do to get the game move from Monday to Saturday night? Let me give you a backstory the last time. It was not a Monday night was the two thousand nine season. And that's when Alabama one believe it was on a. When does either a Wednesday or Thursday? And I can't remember which one may Thursday night. More Wednesday but regardless ever since then the game moved the Monday night. It's all it's all about television. It's the first Monday night, Monday night football is not on ESPN and the college football playoff make that decision. And I would tell you right now, there is virtually nothing that is going to change the Monday night, ESPN likes it the college football playoff likes it and there's not a lot of room, although this year, I believe there is a twelve day turnaround. But it's the only way that college football gets away from, from the playoffs that weekend the, the NFL plays on Saturday night. Which I think you would I bet you're going to suggest the best night to have it on here lately. That would be much really. I mean I listen as a college football fan. The college football takes a backseat to the NFL this for sure. Okay, just what you're what you're no no nothing changing their, th that's all there is to it. I hate to hate this to be the bearer of bad news. We're up against a break. Vince Dooley coming up here shortly in more of your phone calls listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. We're back and always one of the great pleasures on this program to welcome. Our next guest coach Vince Dooley who we just got through talking about the field being named coach. I know I know how humble you are. I'm sure you're honored and thrilled for your family and the legacy. But I'm sure you probably don't like all this attention. Good afternoon, coach. But you hit it right. I am pleased very, very honored, and especially for the family and then you still say about it. You think about all the players and you think about the support staff that that you had. And you think about the fan, the cheerleaders everybody else that actually performed on the field. And I think they share in this as well. It is. I mean we, we, we so often reflect back and I, I don't think your time at Georgia gets gets full respect because you win the championship and eighty which everyone knows but you. I don't want to say this to you of all people, but you were in the running for a couple years, straight there, where I mean, really any any number of, of years for three or four years, Georgia had had a legitimate shot. Well, we certainly had a great run in the early eighties. Exactly. Rights and very we probably finished doing. That's forty period. I think we had the best record of any team in the country during that time forty three four one. And we played for the national championship a couple of times and fortunately wanted in nineteen eighty when everything fell into place. And, and everything everything's got to do that, as, you know, for team to win it or some have have done it, despite that I think you look back on it, probably Nick Sabin, and Alabama, so only one that spent consistently up. They are competing year in and year out and it's very difficult to do b because of the fact that he is recruited, so. Well, and I think that's what's expiring lot of George people, because currently who is who is at Alabama. You know, for nine years, plus as at three great recruiting he is. So maybe that's another opportunity to, to be able to play at level consistently in it is hard to coach someone, I think, from Florida came up with a stat that it's been more than fourteen thousand days. I think that's right. The Georgia hasn't won a champion national championship. And I wonder when, when you wanted an eighty and even even after you left. I mean, did did you did you think it would, we would be sitting here talking and twenty nineteen and in the dogs would still be pointing back to the win over Notre Dame in one thousand nine hundred season as to last title? Well again, you've got to got to fall into place, and I think it sell it the place fell Bammer against us twice once in the national championship game as you know, term, and whether another. Quarterback comes off the bench, and we play great. We're in a great position to win the game. But I think that Goethe back we didn't. And then the next time when we had a shot to be the final four. We lost the SEC championship to Alabama again with the starting quarterback came in. That's hard to do at game. So it is all to do it. But it fell it fell. Disliked Valla Bama. So it's kind of fall in place. It just did that done it for us. But there's great optimism. That is going to happen. And I wanna ask you, you've already talked about Kirby's recruiting and you obviously watch the program like we all do what do you see from him that gives you optimism that, that the dogs will be back in that same or similar position in the future? Well, as we talked about it, you start with recruiting and you've gotta be consistently recruiting at the highest level year in and year out. And again, that's very hard to do, as I mentioned, Elaine Alabama. It's done at it. And that's and they will them to to compete. It is level year in and year out. And with Kirby now with three straight recruiting classes, one two and three and some older. But when it said, hi, it's, it's, it means you had a of recruiting year, and if you have great consistent recruiting years chances on that you to have a consistently good football teams competing at act level when you were flying back. I mean you, you coached in fascinating era, certainly as the youngest coach in the sixties going up against your former coach, should Jordan. You had bear Bryant. You could go down the list, and they were they were epic EPA coaches. What, what was I'm really interesting? Some of your memories of that period. Specially about coach Bryan because you did have some early success against him. If I remember. Yeah. We did. We it was it was destined for really success against anybody. Credibility. But when you have ADT against goes Brian in a big big upset here in, in Athens, my second year, and then the beat Michigan up and Ann Arbor. And again, I much stated plus for for for young coach move able to do that. You did mention ghost Brian, you mentioned coast. Jordan member Bobbie dot was sure what in the conference was still around. Johnny Vaughan was coach at ole miss at the same time we played them about every year. We didn't play out of Bamba every year back in those days, but we did my first two years, and as a just mentioned, we, we had a great win which was much needed for this young coach. You. Right. And I and we're leaving coaches out as well. Because you had as you know with with your with your own coast, where you had some epic battles with Pat dye as well coached that also has a field named after I've always been fascinated about you going to Auburn, hint, and Pat going to Georgia, and there's a field name for Pat at Auburn. And now there's a field name for you. Georgia. Well, that's unusual. That's for sure. All in the family in some in some respects because I think that the Georgia at all, but which started playing each other a long time ago, eighteen ninety two and has consistently played each other over a period of time. And there's a lot of similarities in the two schools and Pakelle surly, tell you that about all I can tell you that about Georgia. And we, we both knew I'll schools as well. So this is a strong rivalry between the two but at the same time as is probably, as, as fan arrival and born respect, and that is that is a great or crossover. And part of that crossover as coach dying going back and forth. But it started with coach Jordan, who is a land coach at Georgia when he became the head coach at at all been, and it's, it's continued on. Yeah, no about the way that I'm leaving out some, some, some other comparisons. But. The U and coach died stand above I want to ask you about robberies. You mentioned good rivalry with jewelry, Georgia, and Auburn has certainly been one of the great ones in that game is moving, which some people like and some people don't, but I want to ask you about the Georgia, Florida rivalry because we, we get a lot of calls from Florida fans who want to pick a Georgia, and Dan Mullen has entered into the fray, IS Kirby smart about that the other day. And he said, you know, we talk with our helmets. I'm sure that's a comment that you probably approve of. Very much. So I don't I don't know coach ball. It's quite as well. But the, the Florida robbery was, was big when I came Lord at one ten of twelve and they've kind of gone at bunches and they had Dumai period. We were fortunate to, to do pretty well against Florida and then Spurrier came. I retired. And that's that the payback was kinda overdone about Florida different that period of time, and then it, there's, there's no question that it's, it's probably now one of the biggest if not the biggest and it's always big based on who's winning. And in this case, Florida has a pretty much. So, so I think it probably now is our biggest rival we've done. Well against all been recently, we've done well against Georgia Tech. So it makes the Florida rival. Even bigger there's also been quite a neighborhood rivalry over the years with Clemson. I remember I think the your after you won the title. I believe you open the season against Clemson. I think Danny Ford was a coach and and that game keeps coming back and coming back again. But, but I'm interested in your view of Clemson, right now because depending on which expert you talk to some people believe they have overtaken Alabama having won two of the last three. That's always been a star-crossed school that, that, that now seems to finally gotten it right? Again, after many, many years. Well, they certainly competitive. There's no question about that. And early on. We get very very well against glimpse and booked or wind. Dante took over. We had it came tougher and tougher and we had some terrific games in the late seven days in a during the early eighties. And then as you pointed out, we won the national championship one year Clemson, actually wanted to next, right? Then it was the following year that we played each other. We opened each other in the ball game here and and assets. And the conference is recruited. Well, and now they have over who just has the co this wonderful personality, that everybody admires and admires him the way he has conducted himself. He's been able to hang onto some very good assistant coaches that I think is really helped his program, so with good assistance, and with having the personality that he has cheerleading way about him. That's a lovable. Then I see them of it being very competitive, but they're saying that they've taken over Alabama. I'm not so sure FOX, it is to say that right now, they're certainly got a little at your Alabama, and, and they will continue to be right at the top in in the future. And finally on that subject, you mentioned in a lot of people pointed this coach that dabble has been able to hold onto his staff while coach Sabin, staff has turned over quite a bit. And I'll, I'll leave, I'll leave out the fact that your son has been on that staff, and, and your. Wife has been very public about complaining to, to Nick Saban about how hard she worked him about holiday worked. But, but I, I mean the fact he he's been able to do it with, with almost a new staff every year is even more remarkable. I think. Yeah, it is a lot of ways that Darik was Bobby the longest number for a while until Kirby was there for a long period of time. But about every three or four years, you constantly turning over. And it might be an asset to, to Nick, that probably does based on record on the other hand, is probably more of an asset based on the way born coaches at Clemson dapple to whole onto a staff like at it keep consistency. So I don't know. Maybe they maybe contrasting hit coaches, both extremely successful. But maybe that particular way in handling assistance might be the strength of both. And finally, since you did know coach Bryan so well. And, and it's well known that you in coach saving have been friends longtime with neighbors on the lake. Is there a way to compare as many of us have tried your your? A far more of a position of expertise in any of us to compare coach Bryan to coach Saban. Well, again, never been able to figure out is any set pattern of fork, successful coaches and they come in all different and all different styles and all different ways of leadership. But the only way sometimes you could judge it is the end results in this case with football is winning and consistently winning. And both of them have been able to do that winning big they winning national championships. And I think Nick and and is now tied I'm sure he'd like to, to win one more and certainly was at a position to do that. We'll probably be in a position to future, and then hours, you gotta judge it except what was once when's a few more Daschle championships at the other, but too great to incredibly great coaches at one school. Absolutely amazing. I'll end where we began. With the fielding named after you were a couple of months away from the, the official ceremony. And I know that you're not one that probably likes to, to talk about yourself very much. I feel like you're going to be asked to do it many, many times between now and early September. What do you think that is going to be like to you and your family? Well, it'll, it'll be special that I think that it'll be special to a lot of people it's going to be at a game that I think is not very attractive. We can get a feeling with in Murray state respect you. Combat Georgia the opener at home. It probably wouldn't have been as as big now, maybe it's we'll have a few more people there that, not that dedication will there that maybe not originally plan to be. But it'll be a great celebration, and we're looking forward to it as you can imagine you can imagine opera in the family how how much they're looking forward to it. Well, it is a tremendous honor coach. It's always an honor for us to have you on this program, and we look forward to seeing you there and talking to you many more times, always enjoyed it. Thanks. Thank you. Coach coach. Vince Dooley talking about the honor that will come to him officially in early September. We'll take a short break back with much, much more. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. And we welcome all of you back. Glad you're here. Great conversation with coach Dooley. Andy Staples, a little bit later on. Ed is in South Carolina. Ed good afternoon. Paul very well, thank you is a perfect athlete. Perfect like to hear that. That's right, does a great interview with coastal by the way to thank you very much what, what a call. The Bill is a couple of months ago, asking, we talked about the FBI investigation, and you insinuated that is lot more gonna become an out once it's all the if you heard more about this. I think most people would would would concede that what we heard and saw New York was a disappointment in the sense that by the end of it. I wasn't really sure what the point of it was so a lot of what I've heard has not come out yet, and it doesn't mean it will come out, you know, sometimes he things there's a lot of there's a lot of noise out there. But we don't ever get to it. It is it the middle class is like a big secret. I don't I don't give. Well, there's, there's a lot. There's a lot of allegations, but. Making those allegations stick in a legal sense, or in an NCWA censor tutor from things and and not to be repetitive. But the NC double A has not really structured to do independent investigations there, they, they want one time were, but they're not really doing that anymore, so they, they depend entirely on, on the feds. And, and I think the, the feds asked the NCW to wait until these cases were over. So now that it looks like they are will the NCW do anything. I mean, it's hard to imagine them not looking into the air Zona case. Or the LSU case. But that doesn't mean they'll find they'll find me. It may be listening. There could be a half a dozen cow. Those are the three that I think would be at the top of the list. Arizona's definitely under investigation. LSU has has had investigators on campus. But right now it seems to be at a standstill. Thing just weird. You know it just weird. Well listen it's a dirty game but but it's also a game where the the rules don't really fit the times and what I mean by that ad is that with the structure of the game being a one and done situation and a lot of people now agreeing the players ought to get something. There is not the same hue and cry there. There was twenty thirty forty years ago when you heard a player got money now it's like, who cares? But it's still not right. It was right. All right. And I mean I, I was somewhat outraged by what I what I read about the LSU in Arizona or coach. But on the other hand, it's almost accepted, now it puts administrators puts commissioners in very awkward positions, to, to have to stand by and act like everything is Copacetic. But and the other hand, you have a lot of people that don't don't really seem to find fault in any of this, but the sad part it puts it puts the game is a bad lie. Yeah. I think so. I think it's a pretty dirty game nobody wants to hear that. But, but by the way, did that stop me from watching this year? It didn't. It was a great tournament. It's just you just. I mean we we we're we're sports fans and we don't stop in and watch the game. And at the end of the game the other night when Leonard hit the, the buzzer beater that we stopped and thinking is he a good guy or bad guy? We just we cheer. It's the nature of the that's what it, that's what I mean. I realize that's professional sports. But I thought the college basketball tournament was the best of maybe I've ever seen. You got a lot of a lot of flawed teams in there in terms of their credibility, but didn't stop the didn't stop anyone from watching. We'll take a break more to come your phone calls at eight five five two four to, to eight five are net to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Geico presents yet. Another voicemail from your roommate. Doubt the kitchen turns out when there's a grease fire, you're not supposed to throw water on it wouldn't own right. Anyways, the fire department is here and it's totally cool. Can call back when you get a chance the Geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected like if danger is your roommates middle name, visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance. Okay, we're back. Your phone calls continue here and the lettuce. Grab some more calls and Derek is in Chattanooga. Hilla derek. We're well, thank you. If there, I'll call them and say, what do you think about Alabama was coming up? Feeding? Well, I think it's going to be, you know, expect to Alabama to have a great year right now. I'd probably I'll probably pick them to win at all really. My question you would be, why would you be surprised by that? Well. The meltdown that we had the past Tempe of game. Opt ever seen coats of kind of Ronald with feelings pretty much I guess, because they're they're here's what you have to look at not the same team. Not the same coaches different year. Reset, it means one thing of Alabama had lost six games. They lost one game was a bad game. I know that, but I think maybe I'm, I'm basing this on having just spent time with Nick Sabin, the other day, but he seems motivated by. He's addressed it head on. He's not running away from it, and I think it is only at Alabama. Can you win fourteen games and lose one and it feels like the season was a disaster. True. We've a lot of people here come used to winning championship. We don't want in championship people feel like data fall. Yeah, too. I mean, I think that's always the motivation. I mean history has indicated that save normally wins after he loses. But I mean it's hard to win every year. I'm not making excuses. I, I think I think this was more of a case that Clemson was just incredibly good. I don't know. I still haven't wrapped my arms around that being the best team of all time because they only played they only played two good opponents. So they'd played an SEC schedule. I might be more willing to cut them some slack, but I do think you have to agree that, if you go back and study that game and saving made this point, I'll Alabama left about. Twenty one to twenty eight points on the goal line. They threw a pick six, so I'm not I'm not making excuses because it 'cause 'cause Clemson could've thrown a few more touchdowns on, on the board. But it was just one of those weird games. They got away quickly and there was no there was no salvage. Again, I'm not reading a lot into that game in terms of what happened or happens this year sheet call very much. Rob is in Texas, and you are next up. Hey, rob. Are there? Oh a moment. Yes, you are on. Sorry. I appreciate fall pretty free Kate your show. Appreciate you been listening for the for cardiac rehab here for the first time. But I just as an aside, I grip southerner. A little town on the border of South Carolina. So my roots are kind of in the south on the southern conference just a couple of points. I one was I don't think I'm going to need an ACC network. You realize since January, I think Clemson has got more airtime when you're shows and some seafood. Yeah. You by the way, I wish you the best with your rehab. You know, we're ESPN owns the SEC network and the ACC networking, and I took it upon myself to help the ACC network. It launched we launched the we officially launched the ACC no work in January. I every where I go. I run into Clemson fans who say they listen and watch the show. And there's good reason to because we talk about them every day. No. I appreciate it as great. How just a couple of coming to you. I promise you the, the conversation about Clemson will be more interesting here than you'll find elsewhere. I'm sure it would be I if I let your comment a few weeks ago, you had a gentleman on who I think it launched an article about the birth of the stuff Eastern Conference on the know with did a lot. I've been doing a lot of research in, and I don't mind saying, I I'm an early sixty grad place on Carolina state where we own basketball, the fought the Dixie classic southern southern conference in quite frankly, people just encouraging readers to go back and look at the history of the old southern problem because there's a lot of history there, the, the third point, and then just let your and I'll hang up after this. I've been thinking a lot in the point. Is that bowl game with South Carolina and Virginia? Follow about ACC SEC. I'm wondering if maybe the SEC being so good for school like South Carolina is too. It's sword in census. They cause I heard of South Carolina fans against Clemson. We put up a lot of yards and besides we're in the SEC so that oughta camper some, but I gotta I gotta pay. So you lost the game wondering, sometimes if school except Carolina doesn't feel entitled in the they put on a shoes and takes feeling waving SEC banner to school. Like, you know, you, you know, you know, rob I, I think, you know of all the schools that Clemson has had a deleterious effect on, I mean, people talk about Alabama. No, it South Carolina, and I think South Carolina is in a critical situation right now. They have to figure out a way to become relevant, again, and Clemson is not making it very easy for them. He made encourage a recruiting or just across the board, because I mean, here's a program that I think is a very interesting incr- hate to run, because we're out of time, but it's a very interesting crossroad and being in the SEC is great, but they better do more than just brag about that.

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Happy Hour #246: Jordan Lee Dooley

The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey

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Happy Hour #246: Jordan Lee Dooley

"Hey, friends, and welcome to the happy, Jamie podcasts. I'm your host me. And I'm so glad you're here each week on this show. I invited girlfriend to join me and we chat about the big things, I've the little things in life and everything in between. All right. Here me out. You guys you walk into a store and you immediately find exactly what you're looking for. That's basically the feeling you get every time you shop at movement watches. Thank you watchers. For sponsoring today's show our friends at movement. Have you covered with tons of quality good-looking watches starting at just ninety five dollars? Get fifteen percent off today with free shipping and free returns by going to end the Mt dot com slash h h c why movement keeps growing check out their expanding collection. Go to M B M T dot com slash h h join the movement, you guys friends. Today's guests on the happy hour is my new friend Jordan Lee Dooley. I sat down with Jordan last week and interviewed her when I was in Nashville, and I need to tell you guys something she is exactly what you think she's going to be sweet kind Br. Brilliant, energetic, just so lovely. She describes herself as multi passionate. She's a three on the Ingraham and his happily married to her college. Sweetheart Matt, the two are now business partners who work side by side from their farmhouse in the Indiana countryside, and raise chickens in their free time. Jordan is a podcast, sir. The host of the sheep podcast, and she's a first time author her book just came out a week ago. It's called own your every day overcome the pressure to prove and show up for what you were made to do. In fact, she says, it's the purpose driven life for the next generation. Okay. So on today's show, first of all, I had such a phenomenal time encouraging Jordan. She's twenty five years old. I'm forty one. It could be really easy for us that are generations apart to look down on another generation or say, you don't know what you're talking about or your outdated. But instead, you guys this is such an example of we need each other. I want to be a cheerleader for every woman in every generation, and I loved affirming her today. Day in saying, you girls in your twenties that are listening to this show you matter, and you're doing big things and us women in our forties. We're here to cheer you on. We also talked about being willing to be coached, no matter how much success, you gain keeping a humble heart. She shares as me on the show how she started hand lettering in college. She had an SE business, and she chipped out things from her sorority house closet. She had all her girlfriends, they would come in to give him pizza. They would package orders, and that is how she started her entrepreneur spirit and business. And now you're going to hear her whole story about where she is today. We talk a little bit about comparison envy. You're going to want to listen all the way through the end of the show, so you don't miss, what Jordan dust create a boundary that helps her fight against identity. Comparison I love sitting down with Jordan, and I think you're gonna love this show as well. You have not got her book. Go get it own your every day overcome the pressure to prove and show up for what you were made to do her cute. Little faces on the front, you can find it anywhere. Books are sold. Okay. Friends, I want to remind you of something about our patriarch page a lot of times. People ask me if it's possible that we could revisit a topic shared on the happier. Or could I talk more of the particular guests about a particular subject or I really like it when you bring Aaron on as a co host? 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I'm super thankful because you're telling me I like what you're doing a want. More of it. And I'm saying, yes. Yes. Yes. So check it out. Jamie dot com slash patriotic. Okay. Friends here is my conversation with Jordan Lee Dooley. Jordan, welcome to the happy hour. Hey, it's so good to be here is so fun, so great, it's great to meet you. It is. I feel like I've been following you don't you probably don't know this. But I've been following your journey since I think since before you launched your book. Wow. So it's been kind of fun to follow along. And now I'm like, well, they I'm like you're a little soul sister. Yes. You're about to launch a book. Yes, I am. It is so funny, because I have people like that in my life as well. That I'm like, I watched your kind of journey up and the, you know, the Hartford is you see what we tell you. But now we're not eating right before we started recording. We're having like real conversation. The real stuff. Right. The things that maybe we won't put on air might not put on air on answering a post, we might talk about in person, but some street to meet you, thank you could even real friends, and I'll be your kind of older soul. Sister, mama. I am totally okay with that. That would be I mean I love it. I love it. You know it's funny because this is totally off topic here. But I'm forty one twenty five. Okay. But my husband and I. I have been talking, I whole lot about how we want to invest and spend time with people that are younger than us. And we look at Shelly, and Louis giggly I guess, and literally, they're like our heroes, and I would tell that to that, like, they're amazing Jeremy's. But we look at how much they invest in the generation behind them. And so it's fun for me to sit down with younger girls like you and talk about life and business and faith, and books and marriage and all the things because that's what I want to do. And people have done that for me. Yeah. And you'll any of that for people, I think that's the thing is, and I wrote about this actually in the book is like feeling like, okay, I'm younger in this journey. I've only been doing, you know, a handful of years still learning watching like the greats ahead of me. You know, and it's so easy to kind of, like, discredit what you do. So to have that affirmed like, no, no, no. This is good. And I wanna pour in and I want to invest in, you know, encourage it's like affirming. I think a lot of women or young girls feel like, oh well, I shouldn't because I'm not this many years experienced, and I think a lot of people don't step into what they're made to do because of that solely. That is so encouraging. I remember saying that to Audrey your friends with Audrey friends. So when she was in the studio, I mean I look at her, and she's young yellow, both young, and she's writing a book with Jamie about marriage. And there is this tendency to go. What do you have to say? You're twenty eight. You've been married for this many years. But I don't wanna be that older woman. I want to be an older woman that says you do have something to say, right. And we're gonna listen to you. Right. I love that because older women in front of me have looked at me and said you have permission. Right. You could say something, and I think what's so big about that is at least for, you know, Audrey and I talk about this, we were just walking around in Hawaii talking about like the nerves around books and the you know, the pressure. I know such a bomber, you know, like. But we had a great conversation. But, you know, it's like I think one big lesson that I've learned through this is the willingness to be coach -able. And I think that doesn't end regardless of your age. I think whether you're twenty five or fifty five or one hundred and five it's like, there's always more to learn. And I think what we're can be dangerous as, if you're like I'm twenty five and I know everything, you know, it's like, that's where it's like, of course, you're going to turn people off. Of course. People aren't gonna want to listen, but I think, just showing up is kind of where it starts, and for me, the biggest lesson has been if I can be coach able, and I can bring that to that space. I'm a gonna gain a lot of wisdom and be also probably getting the respect rather than trying to be like, oh, I know, everything, so right? It's just all about your approach. I think, and that doesn't change right, just for anyone because I still need to be coach -able totally. Oh, and so I don't know. Everything. Right. Okay. So your book on your everyday released last week. Yes, it's been insane feeling like you explained it. What did you say? Freight train with confetti everywhere, right? Trying petty catches drink getting run back and forth, going over by this train like a party that just won't stop to buddy. Yeah. It's amazing. So it's, it's really fun. And it's really, really neat to see even like before the book released hearing from people who got cerita advanced, just it was really affirming to be, like, okay, I can put this out into the world. It was terrifying, for sure. It's like here's my heart. Don't squash it. But just really learning. I think over the last several days and just in through this experience already has been so humbling. But also really exciting like okay. This is like we don't have to play small, I think sometimes we can be like, oh, this isn't gonna go well, or we kinda doubt ourselves and got so much bigger than that. You know, so saying right now. Okay. So for those listening and haven't got a copy of your book that came out last week. Give us a cliff notes version. What does what does your book cover? So the book cover. No, I was like. Thank you. It was an accidental photo, but it worked out. So the book is basically, the best way to describe it is the girlfriends guy to purpose driven life. And the reason I say that is because, you know, the purpose driven life is like something, we can all grab onto in such a strong book, but it wasn't written from like a girlfriend econo- perspective, sitting over coffee. And so it's got a similar concept. And I really think of it as a resource for the woman who's chasing after something more trying to strive for that big goal that big dream, but also trying to find purpose and continue where she is because I think sometimes we get a lot of messaging about be content. And then we get comfortable, and then we get complacent. And then we don't we doubt our dreams. We don't go after them or we get a ton of stuff of your dreams. The only thing that matters, and go after that, and that's so much pressure. And so, like, have you bring these things together? And that's really what's in this plan and tell us how to do it. We're gonna try we're gonna try, I'm gonna tell you from, like, I'm on this journey with you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So speaking of your journey, we already told everyone that you're twenty five when you tell us what you've done your life already. They're going to be surprised. You're twenty five because I know you start an NC shop in college, which went crazy good. Yes. Releasing your first book it's five you have an online presence, which can become more than just an online presence. Take me back to Jordan, entrepreneur college dreaming. Where did that begin? What does that look like for you? I call myself an accidental entrepreneur. I studied healthcare administration. I planned on working and insurance or working, you know, managing a hospital or something like that. And then I went for an interview for an internship, or post college job, and I remember I was like this is a way to stiff for me, like I need leggings. And I just can't do this. Like the whole corporate thing I thought it was totally going to be my path, and it just wasn't. It didn't feel right? And so, I remember I had a conversation with my mom and I was like, mom. I don't know if I can do this, like, did I pick the wrong thing. You know you have like your twenty year old guys and she was like hunt, just don't then, like you have the rest of your senior year, finish it out strong, but, like try some stuff and I'm like, what is this? Don't take a job and try some stuff foot of weird. You know, kind of great advice though. I mean you can probably say it is now I want to be that kind of on. But that's. Gary advice to give yes 'cause she didn't know what she was giving me permission to. I mean. Yeah. But she really did. She was like, look explore and experiment. You have some time right now. Like the pressure is off. And I was always one of those like high achievers I'm gonna NeoGraft three so it's like I need to be on the dean's list, just for the sake of being on the dean, right? And I'm gonna like, you know, run myself. I know you're married to it three so there you go. So anyway, then when she gave me that advice I was like, all right. So I tried my hand a couple of different things, but throughout all that I had picked up hand lettering, for fun. I won the handwriting contest, and third grade. So it was a pretty natural radiation. Well, no, but so I mean I didn't even realize that 'til later but I started lettering, you know, quotes and bible versus in biology notes, and things that I wanted to remember and I was dating my now, husband at the time, and he was a college football player, and he picked up guitar like a creative outlet when you're a student athlete, your life is your life is literally, you, you work for it. Yeah. Yes. And so he was like I needed a creative outlet in j you work so hard like, maybe should just, I don't know where he'd ever heard of Oetzi, because it was like kind of now, up and coming at that point. And he's like you should start an SE store and I was like, well, you're crafty for football player. So he suggested I do that. And I said, all right. Why not you know, I'm still finishing up my schooling and my sorority house. And next thing I know I'm doodling on computer paper and posting pictures on an SE account. I figured out how to make and my sorority sisters were like what are you doing? I said, I'm just playing, you know, having fun and it was crazy, 'cause then I got my first sale after a couple of weeks and selling I was selling like canvas and little journals and I the, the first sale was literally a goal chirpy marker on computer paper. It was really fancy be still lady in Texas bought it. I was like bless you. Thank you. I buy. Yes. So that was really a cool experience, and then it started to grow because I just started writing, which didn't even really intended to that I wasn't trying to create content or anything like that. But started telling stories alongside pictures of me with a canvas or pictures of the mug that I would write on or whatever, and people would start sharing it. And then suddenly, I had a couple of posts that had fifty thousand shares sixty thousand shares on Facebook, and I was like only cow. There's a lot of people writing my words in buying. My stuff now at my shop started to grow. So I started recruiting my friends still in college finishing up college, and I had just got engaged. And so my life was insane. And I was still finishing up my sorority house, and I would get packages. I learned how to print everything on mugs or on journal so I wouldn't have to hand you do it by hand. And so, I think these boxes like two hundred bucks sent to the sorority house, and my house, mom was like your mom's or here like upstairs, put them in the storage closet, and I would run this year running the business a business out of the storage closet were all the luggage goes through promote his day, I would recruit, my roommate, and my friends, and I was like can you guys come home package because there's eighty orders that need to go out, and I also biology tomorrow. You know. So we'd sit up there like two in the morning, and we would eat pizza and talking package all these little things, and it was so cool. It'd be like, oh my gosh. This is going to Germany what you know. And we were just like the internet is so cool because I mean we I mean, I don't think I got like smartphone or anything until I was kind of later in college, and so we didn't grow up without nearly as much as the generation behind us. So we were like you can reach people in Germany. Offense them to them. This is insane. So that led to a lot of nights of a sitting around and packaging and shipping and laughing and sharing stories and dreams and talking about breakups and all these things, and it just kinda felt like a safe place, especially in the midst of a Greek system where there's a lot of companies and a lot. I mean, we were are you Indiana University is a very tough Greek system. There's a lot of competition, a lot of quickness that can happen. And so just experiencing. That was really, really cool. I'm not lead to even more of I wanna porn to women. And I went to we ended up putting a little tagline on the shop. It was your broke Innis as welcome here because that's what it felt like packaging. It was like bring your heartbreak bring your visions. Bring your confusion and come in and package. You know, and we talked to all hours of the night, and it was really cool. It really sparked everything I do now. So then what I mean you go from, what yuckiness is welcome here this as shop. That's going crazy that you're working in your sorority house. You're like asking your friends to work for you. Of the pizza. Exactly. Find your pizza this wordy house. And then you get married. Yup. And did you ever go back into corporate world? So no. So we graduated. And I was like shoot now. I don't have one hundred girls told me package. What do I do? So I closed the shop for a while. Okay. But I continue to write because I had a little bit of a platform at that point and women and girls were consuming it and sharing grammar Facebook, both. Yeah. Okay. So both had started to grow simultaneously, and so I just continued that would copy paste captions into a blog? And I just felt like I was cheating, but it worked and yeah, and then later that year after I graduated, we got married. My husband is playing with the Steelers at the time, and he got cut ten days for wedding. So that was citing. Yeah. We were like, what are we gonna do your anti shops closed have job like an I didn't wanna get a corporate job leading up to her wedding because I thought I was going to move. So it was this really weird unknown time. And so then I picked up for talky. Why not? So I ran photography business for a year just to like sustain us. I was like asked my friends who are wedding photographer as I said, can I second shoot with you such an entrepreneur, you gotta make a way you know? And I've always had that. Like grit, and it's like, well if we're on money we're going to find a way to make it. And then I also spent two thousand dollars in our count. When we got married, maybe a little more than that, and I found a course, online about how to build it online business because I had an audience. But I was like, well, the only thing I know about his fashion blogging, and I'm not very fashionable. So I gotta figure out something else took, this course got so excited didn't realize that it was a thousand dollars cores and Matt comes home. And he's like, we're like three weeks into marriage. He's like junior spend half our networks. And of course, that was like he's like you paid a woman in Australia. Nine hundred ninety seven dollars. What are you doing, like I promise? We'll make it work. And we did. I ended up learning it. I it was actually really good to have that drive. But alongside the photography thing kinda ran that and just built, this online platform, and learn how to do Email lists and how to do this well and built connection all the things. So it was crazy, 'cause it was such an accident. But just one little entrepreneurial venture after another has led to so many other things all from just doodling on a piece of paper that is so crazy now. I think there can be a lot of confusion and along the lines of this online presence. The you can see it can become a job. You know, but here's what I want to dive, little heart deep. Okay. Let's do it. So your job is online. Your job is to encourage women. You are cushion that comes into play. Yep. I want to know when it's hard when you're not feeling what you wanna say you don't I'm trying to say, like because you have this responsibility to the people who are right listening to you. But what I've seen about you, as you handle it. Well, because you bring the heart and you bring the good. And so, I think sometimes can get a little bit people can get a little bit confused about what is your job here. Yeah. Yeah. So it's so funny. My husband called me, a serial side, hustler at the other day, because there's multiple facets to, and there's a lot of ways to create sustainability like I don't believe that popularity is the point. And I also don't believe popularity is profitable or sustainable. Right. I think a lot of us we rely on that a lot. And so for me, I was like, how can I be wise about this? So that if Instagram goes away or if you know, somebody decides they don't like the way I said something like that's not what this is all writing on alternate. I'm depending on God, but then how can I built in some things, so that if I do need to take a step back like this past year last year, I had to come and go? Oh, I need to draw a little bit of a personal boundary, because I'm trying to find that healthy medium of, how do I share what is truly important to me without it, becoming the only thing I shared, where kind of drains me rhino? And I'm sure you know how that feels like you're almost broadcasting, the most important part of your life for others. And then you're like is this for me? God or is this for others? Like, I don't know. And it also business. And I also love people and like how do you balance all this? Yeah. And so, for me, it was really important to go k we haven't retail store we have a pocket, we have these different streams in these different things where we consider people in different ways. So if J needs to pull back a little bit. And see, you know what I gotta share a little bit less about that, to protect that part of and also continue to run, a sustainable, healthy company here, then we're going to do that. So that was really key is to kind of figure out the strategy to, to be able to do that and put the right people in place because it's a challenge. I mean I don't think there's a perfect formula to do it. And it's, it's so personal in your public brand, and your personal heart, your personal life, your personal, faith or like one in the same. It's like so hard. Do you separate these things when they need to be separated at times? So I've had this conversation. With girlfriends before I have a podcast like you, author speaker. Yep. When I think about the happy hour is my job. Yeah. Like this is I make money this way. Yup. I make decisions. I say yes, and no two brands like this is a job. Right. So I've had conversation with girlfriends about, where's the line between job in ministry, right? Visit hard competition to have. Yes, it's so hard important, though, because people, the pendulum swing a lot, where you can go, this is only a business. I don't care about people only care about my money. Yeah. Or you can say, oh, we'll just say, I don't need you to pay me. I'll just walked over and I just love people totally do it all for the glory of God. So there's this place in the middle. You know, I mean, I've had not very often but every once in a while, people will say, why do you have as on your show? Can't you just bring women on and let us talk, and I want to be like, but it's my job. It allows me to show up and spend the time in the money and the and the heart and the investment in the coordination. I think a an think it's important for people to understand too, that no matter what you're putting out on the internet. There is much coordination. This is interesting. We're all throwing spaghetti at the wall and screaming Jesus. And hoping that it's like there's a strategy. There's a team behind this. There's production value. There's if you want to show that sounds good like sorry, but we have to have expensive mines, and we have to make sure we have an editing. We have to have sounded like there's a lot of pieces behind the scenes that we don't really realize this. I didn't realize they exists till I started getting into this. Yes. So there has to be a way to sustain, and I think sometimes when we think that we forget, like, we actually undervalue people. I think there's times I've wished that like I love if there wasn't it's here, but I have to put myself in that space in remember. Well, the reality is like, do you pay for your food, right? Do you pay your fit? Like, how do you do it? And whether or not it's like I think everything we do. Whether you're a doctor a podcast, or, and a Christian, it's like I think we put these labels on it like, well, a Christian podcasters shouldn't make money. Christian doctor, totally cool. Right. It's like everybody's gonna eat. Right. So it's just finding that mentality. I think it's often because we have a really messed up you have money and I think it's like what's the heart? I'm actually making this to be able to continue serving. Yeah. So I've had to kinda get. I've had the same experience in many ways that you consider your, your brand your podcast, your book, who you are in the Christian space. Or are you a Christian who's ready? And just I'm using air quotes here regular normal book. I think it's a little bit of both because that's where this is. I definitely am in the faith space. Yeah. Okay. My podcast is under faith. Yep. And that's just a decision that we made a long time ago, but you're telling me that you're walking through this challenge of figuring out how much talk about my thing, I was what audience. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That's my question. That's the thing most of my audiences coming to the table. I love Jesus Jesus. We're together. Yep. You're my business stuff. Marketing, you're talking about influence. You're talking about character issues. Jesus. What is journey billing for you? Trying to figure out. Yeah. It's like you're trying to figure out when do I answered Jesus, because he's, he's everything everything totally. But as a businesswoman how, how do you tell me about that juggle? It's always a juggle? And I think you know, I found that ebbs and flows, there's been seasons. I've been like I'm just like I'm gonna pour it out because especially in the beginning I was and I didn't really discern it ever. I think this is one thing I had to learn. I was excited I was on fire for my faith, and it's like when you are love the Lord and he's just blown. You, you're like you can't help but share. Right. And so it's good too, but I never really discerned like where am I going because when I finally hit pause because I just completely burned out, and I was like, you know, I have the split audience and there's other things I'm passionate about talking about. But this portion my audience, I know wants to hear this and yeah, I will not talk about these other things too. And how do you do all that together? I remember I just kinda was like God, what voice did you even give me like who am I supposed to be reaching because I, I don't think you just say, like, hey, you have to like go into this little category. And that's where you say there's nothing wrong with that. But I like is that what you asked me to do? Or am I just trying to do that? Right. And he kinda showed me goes, John, what you'd go back to the bay. Six and I don't hear like very clear things like that very much. But I just got this really strong feeling like okay, what does that mean and it cut taking me back to that throaty house sitting there on the floor packaging mugs with women who thought like me and women who do not think, like women who came from similar backgrounds, women who did it? And he's like this is the audience you have, and this is where you started. You don't have to force it. So it's been really cool to see there's been a freedom. I think that he's given me of, like you can be a Christian, and that should come through everything you do, and you should be open about it when it's appropriate. But don't feel like you have to stay in that space because I actually gave you a voice to, I didn't speak start speaking in churches, I sorta speaking swearing in sorties, and college campuses and business meetings. And so it's like I think I tried to wedge myself into something rather than me like God, take it where you want to go. So I've tried to be more open to the broad like where we're going. And so it is a challenge, but I think because I have a audience, and because they get to go into campuses and different places where some agree and some don't is just look, I'm going to wear this armor and I'm going to let that flow through everything without feeling. Like, that's the only thing I can ever speak. And he's. Giving me so much freedom of thought. And I think it's really a balancing act, but it's been really, really fun to find. Okay. There's actually a lot of freedom in this. So I remember I was at a conference recently. And JD Edwards was speaking. And I just door Jada so much. She was talking about how no matter what you're doing. You have ministry involved, and I think that you, you just are articulating that so well, is that even though you may not be heading into church speak or into this Christian spear that you're still going into it like I can't leave Jesus behind. And I think that's important for women to think about no matter what your your career is. If it's if you're saying, oh, mom if your doctor if you're a CEO of a company if you're an entrepreneur and doing a startup that you can do that. Really? Well, do you know my friend? Jessica haniger. Oh yeah, she's I love her. I love Jessica, she's in her podcast. He's taught me a lot about this, because, you know, we started into collection. It started with her adopting, her son Jackson, Rwanda, and nude is not a Christian company. Right. And. And she has walked that lying so. Well. Yup. That I look at her, and I'm like you are living for us. Yes, because she doesn't hide her faith, but she lives in every world yet. And she brings Jesus wherever she is. But she is a CEO of a company. She's running a company, you know, totally and that's really what the vision got gave me. Because for a while I did speak a church for a little while after some time and I still love doing. I love my church people. But I was kind of, like, I just don't feel like I'm being fully true to where you're really taking man so sees ankles, like that fits, especially my entrepreneurial side. It's like how do you do all these things? And so I love Jessica, I think she's been a great example. And I think it's learning like this is a book written by Christian and that should be evident. But it doesn't mean it's only for you. I love that show much. You know, it's just learning this is a podcast. It's it's a podcast by Christian. So that's gonna come through and the type of advice, I give you like in whether it's in the self help space in the business space or all of the above. And so I just had to learn that. And I'm continuing to learn that and it's always met with a little bit of opposition for both. Sides. I think the internet is such a funny place because it's like oh, you're Christian. Oh, you're Christian enough. It's like this is freaking exhausting. Can't please everyone Asli. So it's just learning that what voice have you been given. And what, what skills you actually have anything that's really important for women of all skill sets of all seasons of life. Whether they're in podcasting in the online space, or, you know, like you said, they're in nursing or their this. It's like show up and do your best. I heard I've ever read Tim Keller. Yes. Love his stuff. And I was listening to a podcast of his book of his, and he's like, you know how you'd be godly pilot you lay in the plane. Thank you. He's like I you just show up and do your job really well. So whether you're running a shop a retail store writing or reading a book doing a podcast or whatever it's like do it, as well as you can. That's how you I honor got you don't have to be. The he doesn't need you. He's going to use, you know, matter what and I think that's so humbling because he's the hero. Yes. Yes. But then there is like I love how you talked about that. And you talk a lot about encouraging women, like go chase your dreams like you want to quit women to do good with what you've given. Last year. I was at speaking of Shelly Louis against the second time in one interview I brought them up. But anyhow, I think we have a favorite over here. Danger, all of you. But you're and I were at their church in. There's just like a handful of sermons that I'll never forget that day was one of them and he taught on the parable of Jesus giving the, the man, Jesus was new, but the man out the talents the envel- and the whole sermon was about the man coming back. And one of them had multiplied his talents. And one of them had hidden it. Yup. In louis. I mean, the message was basically it was like this is for you people in the marketplace. What are you doing? God's giving you right? Like some of you are just hold on, and you're burying it. And you're like no God look at protecting it. And he's like, no, he gave you gifts right? He talents. Go use them, right? Which is, so there's nothing shameful about the I think, I'll often have girls when I speak at college campuses, or like entrepreneurial type things. A lot of women come up to me, especially in college campuses, and they're like, so should I pursue my passions or shy pursuit? What's practical? And I'm like, both your passions can come through its practical, and I said, and then they'll say, well, should I pursue ministry or should I pursue like biology? And I was like, you know, I think if. Remember you can do ministry in biology. But you can't necessarily biology and ministry. So don't feel like you have to. It's an either or kind of thing, and we need them in every industry like used your gifts in every industry. And I think we often forget like that can be in business, and you can run a ten million dollar company and still bring Jesus that space. I think we think like. Oh, but if it gets too big it's not like I dunno. It's crazy to me, so weird. Yeah, it's really weird. And I think that's just important to remember is that, like, there's not an either or I was coaching couple of girls in their in their business. Their own fitness business at one point, and they're like, we wanted to do like, you know, like fifty percent. Jesus fifty percent fitness, and I was like it's one hundred percent fitness that's hundred percent. Jesus like he's just going to come through that. It's weird. It's weird, but it does. Yeah. I'm like you don't have to like figure that out. It's just like just run a fitness business and allow that to happen. Okay. Guys. 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I don't even listen to podcast in college six years ago. So I say that to say people had these big dreams like I think I wanna do some. You can do that right now. Yep. You can totally do that. So you told me you're talking to a girl about passionate or practical, whatever. But talk to the woman who is like she's doing she's in a job. She's got these dreams. And it's almost like you know you hear people doing the side-hustle. Yep. And then they have to make that leap of is it time to make it my full castle. And Jennifer, always talks about this a lot. And but I feel like there's so much fear involved in that. And so talk to that woman. Yeah, yeah, she's doing the side hustle. It's supposed to do something bigger say to her. So I think a congrats on starting the side hustlers because they think the first thing is most people don't even take that step. They're like, I'm just gonna see where I'm comfortable. So first of all, congrats for breaking out of the box, and I think the second thing is I want you to evaluate if you're avoiding risk because they say the higher the risk the higher the reward but we often forget the part the higher the risk. Also the higher the chance of not having a reward true. That's the real fear. And so I think we have to get honest with ourselves and say, what risk my avoiding, and I was actually just sort of business conference back in March or something. And there was a guy on stage and you talked a lot about beliefs. And he you know, he wasn't a Christian conference any means. But I thought what he said, was so solid, and he was talking about how, you know, whatever we do a lot of the times the reasons we don't follow through, and something is a product of our beliefs. And he. Blamed failure failure isn't a thing that you can like hold yet. That's most people's biggest fear of taking the leap. Right. And it's not just taking a leap of faith is taking a leap with faith. I've heard it said that way. And I think that's so good. And he goes, look, you have to start changing your beliefs about failure because it's not actually failure. It's you're either going to get the outcome. You want it or the lesson you needed the sky is not falling and I was like, well, that's so humbling, 'cause even I want to like that, again, because that's good. Yeah. He said you're either gonna get the outcome. You wanted or the lesson you needed, and I think I wrote about this on your everyday too, because I think we often are told like expect failure, you're gonna experience roadblocks, and it's like, well, that's encouraging. But one thing I found was I've experienced a lot of failures. And just in a short amount of time in one. Big thing is yes, we need to expect failure. But I think prepare for it right. Like if the weatherman tells me that there's going to be a blizzard and I'm like cool. I'm not going to do anyway. It's gonna fear the blizzard. Yeah. That's gonna have a much worse effect on my life than if I salt in my driveway and heated my home and did the things I actually had control of to help prepare for those potential failures. You know, my mom was an engineer, and she always talks. Testing improving and, you know fill your patterns and understanding those things. And so I think the best thing I can say is take action continuously, and don't just prepare for failure. But expect it, and I think that's the biggest thing is, what are you strategically doing because I think sometimes we want to take a leap of faith. No, we take it very arbitrary. I'm a strategy like guru. So it's like the yes, there's going to have to be a point where you're like God. The rest is up to you just gotta jump, right? You gotta just jump at some point. But don't be afraid to have a little bit of strategy going into consulting those who might be in that field. Like we were just talking about learning from people like you, you know, it's like ask and find out what those potential failures could be that you wouldn't know because you've only been dabbling in something a little bit. And maybe what get a reality check too. You know, a lot of girls will feel like I just want to blog, and that's it. And I'm like, okay, well you still have to eat. So here's potential failure wanted, here's potential failure to how are you going to prepare for this? And so I think just knowing that educating yourself being coach -able expecting failure, and then taking consistent action. One little. Epa time is the biggest thing. That's so good. I remember when I've done a couple of podcasting like some Nour's. Yeah. I was walked for, like, here's how you try to all the things right. And then you get to point where you're like you just have to push record right? Like you. But I always say when I started five years ago, I didn't do all the things. And if I were to start another podcast, I would do all the thing. Yes, but I would still get to a point where I just had to push for record. And so it's like you prepare you buy your thousand dollar class. Yup, glass. When he had. And you claim to your husband. No, you do the things you prepare. And then there does get to you just have to say, I'm gonna try this and it's good. We said expect failure should. He can be prepared for it right somewhere. Hard. Yeah, it is hard. But I think you have to ask yourself, what's the worst case scenario, and then this is one thing, just I tasked myself as a business owner and is a believer. If the worst case scenario happens if nobody listens. Right. Or if I lose I need to go get another job like, okay? Whatever worst case scenario happens. Does that change your identity and does it take away your gifts? No, no. So I think again, it goes back to this belief issue. Oh my gosh. If I fail if I'm being seen. You know, if I'm seeing starting small, that's the end of it, like, no, you just have to give it and test again, it's test improved test impress. So, you know what's interesting in this, we think you and I both get on a will side tangent here, are you into the Instagram I've gotten so much more into it? I'm like somebody who's like, oh, everybody wants to find out about that. Like, I'm going this direction in the last six months, I've learned way more about myself than I ever thought I would. So I wasn't really into it until I did a book tour last year. Every QNA was like what number are you? And Finally, I was like I've got to figure out the answer totally. But number are you six okay? Okay. But I find it so interesting. Like when you and I have these conversations is different personalities react to these things, totally different. And I think that's one of the beautiful things about. Yeah. Understanding yourself is say, okay. So when this happens to me, Jordan mcface it this way, Jamie may face this way. No Elmont visit this way, but you can still look under and one thing I love about the Instagram to is that we can still go at the end of the day. No matter what number, you are your identity doesn't change in the Lord is still there helping you get through failures and helping me get through failures. Even if it looks different. Yep. These -actly. That's so beautiful. Yep. I think that and also having friends at different different types. Yes. Like 'cause you earn how people react to things and they can sometimes help you react better than your nature wants to, like my husband. We're pretty sure he's nine the guys like my strength string to my balloon like I float away and I'm like, oh, my gosh. We're all gonna go, and he liked brings me back down to earth, and he's very much like the how do I describe like he's like the Kolomna myself? So when failure happens like, okay, this is a different off tangent story. But I'll tell you. So we're sitting there here in probably monkey about a month ago. I'm eating toes. Much. Youth comes out your tooth coming was loose. No, no, it was a crown of Marshall crown. Okay. I always say my two that's like my fake tooth but tooth and I didn't realize it, until after it was already my stomach like swallow it. I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh my gosh freaking out. I'm like, I just swollen tooth and my husband being the calm, like cool, calm and collected that he has. He goes, okay? We'll get another one just like I'm like, I'm going to die. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like my nerves expose like I can't feel this I to speak tomorrow. We had to go get like that denture gum, and like stick it in there. I'm like ninety. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was great. So as now, I do have it's nice and shiny, but you're freaking out and he's like, I'm going to be calm. Yeah. So it's like espec- and that's very much. How happens when, you know, when there's a business thing that goes wrong, or, you know, we didn't get orders out at the right time or something complete like we had a podcast, go the other night, it was like twenty seconds of me repeating myself because I kept choking on my words and it didn't get edited out, and I'm like calling on the home. I got ten thousand people already listen to this come home right now, and you can fix it. He's like Hon. It's real. It's going to be, you know, and he just has that. And so he reacts he responds. I react, having people like that in your life that help you kind of bring it back down to earth. And remember, like this isn't the end of the world that feels really bad right now. Like my tooth is in my stomach, but we find you know, I'm gonna ask you a really rough question. Okay. Do that. She's come out. I don't know. Okay, my husband's wonder right now. I know everyone else. Here's the thing, I didn't go looking for it, but my husband's brother sent us a picture. He goes, I just ordered this for you on Amazon with a painting for goals. And I'm like Lord, help me Lord. Finds you not I'm going to go to the dentist. But yeah, that is so funny. It was okay. So I want to talk to you about a couple of things and I know you wrote about in your book in the real struggles for real women. One of them being comparison. How do you as someone who lives, your life, very publicly? How do you choose every day to fight this, because I think what I've learned in my forty one years of life is that I don't think about to say somehow never really thought about before. So I'm a verbal process gives me. I don't know that we ever really Lou. I don't think we ever get rid of these snakes like comparison in be all these rejection disappointment. I don't think they go away. I think we have to learn how to fight them. Yep. Yep. How will you fight? Yeah. These things I talked about this a lot. I'm actually really glad she said that because that was one big realization. I recently had like I don't remember who told me that they're like, yeah, I just thought comparing myself, and I'm like, what are you like superman? Did you tell me how, yeah I'm like, no? You didn't. You just saying I don't think you can fully ever just never do that. Again. You know, it's just like sin. It's like, oh I just never seen a gun. Right. Really? No. It's just learning. Like, how do I you learn how you react to certain things just like the same thing you learn your points? You learn rea- struggle. So for me, like I compare myself to women at the gym all the time, I am a competitor, I get on a treadmill next to somebody. It's like we're racing. You wanted do. And they're like completed what they might be like a seventy nine year old man. And they, they literally are like a anyway. Poor guy. So, you know, one thing that I found is having actually just Conley gave me this idea or not idea. She kinda put a word like I've always had, like, what's my wife statement? But she calls it something like purpose statements or something. So it was like I loved, how she said it. But the idea is like, okay when I catch myself in that it's like why am I using this tool right now? Why am I on this treadmill? Is it to race my person or is it to Stuart my heart health? Right. Or why am I using social media? Is it compare myself to strangers or is it to reach your target audience with an important message or to sell something, right? Like whatever the issue of the real tool and reason for it is, and so one little combating thing for me has been asked, and remember your like your wives and establish. Those in every arena that you play. Yeah. Work. Jim social media all the places friendships like you know all that. And then I think the second thing would be. And then I'm gonna ask you this. You have to believe you're y right? That's why you have to salvage it ahead of time. That's good. Yeah. You know, like you can't just be like, oh, I'm scrolling in stone, like this is my why it's like I personally use Instagram to educate and to be educated. Not so much to be entertained. I think a lot of us use it, you know that from the start. Right. Helps you fight that, right? So I think that's a huge things establish your wife all these little places. Why do I parent this way? Why do I why am I why do I wife this way why I don't know why I make these verbs. But you know what? I mean. Like what you mean? Yeah. So that and then the other thing is asked more than you, assume and communicate more than you compare so like this lady at the gym I love this story. I wrote about this every day because I'm Jim compare. Are like I know that's my weak spot. Most people social media. I'm like, it's the gem. And we, we started going to the gym really early in the mornings back in the fall, which I was like super him vicious of us, like go, and there was usually like no one else in there. But at one point this one woman who was so fit. And just like crushing editor hit workouts without a trainer even my husband's like that lady, like kicks every morning, and I'm like I'm aware. Yes, I know. Thank you. I'm like walking on the treadmill. Like at least I'm here anyway at one point after about two or three weeks. I was walking past for section to get to get him out and we happen to make contact. I'm like shoot now. I have to say something right? So I was like you don't hit workouts. And she's like, yeah, you should have been with me. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I. Hire a navy seal level work right now. Like so she's like, I'll be here on Wednesday. Meet me at five fifteen and I'm like, I'm not about to look like a weenie. So that sounds great. You know. So I said, yes, and I'm like this chick is gonna kick my, but I'm going to be so embarrassed. I almost didn't go. But then I was like, no because I'm just going to see me every day the chicken, right? So show up. And we ended up having this incredible conversation and she's like, I have a dream of starting gyms like she had this amazing like just beautiful dreams. She loves the Lord she in my brain. Like I've been watching her all week. I'm like she probably has like a private jet meetings with the president like six hundred thousand dollars year job like all these things I made up in my brain right now. She's like a normal person. She just goes to bed early. So we had this incredible conversation and we actually were very like minded and had so much fun and we continued like the rest of that fall. We'd go on runs in the park together. And like we just became friends, and I'm like funny, the people that we compare ourselves to most or NB, the most are usually the people we would like the most if we sat down and got to know them because they're usually people, we can kind of relate with their you should people that are like, I would actually probably like to learn from you, but I'm jealous because you're head of me, right? Yeah. So I learned a lot about working out from her, and also just life and had a great conversation. So I always encourage people like ask questions more than you assume because I just kept assuming like you have a private jet, and you're amazing, and you're this and she is amazing. But she's just like you, right. I had this kind of same experience as I have a bible study in my house, on Wednesday mornings in, if my girls are listening to this that come they're going to crack up, but. Two. Ladies have come are my friends. Now, they come to my bible study. We know each other, but our boys were on the same football team two years ago, and I would see them walking around the field, and I actually people would think, oh, I'm an extrovert I, I actually nervous around new people if like you come in and immediately you're coming on my show. I'm not averaged about meeting you. We have an agenda, right all the things. We're the football field and our kids play on the same team. I'm nervous. I don't do well meeting, new people that way, which is surprising. It's funny. So I would see these two ladies, who are both beautiful super fit be walking, how so intimidated by them, and I would not say, hi, I literally, you're like I'll go through my emotional turtle shells weirdo over here. Like, you know, and it's so crazy now to see that they come to my house, and we said it goes, where together and they're just normal people, I had assumptions about them that weren't true because they were just living their life and they like to walk and they. God made the beautiful. Right. You know what I mean? It's that simple. It's that simple in, so I think that that's such good advice to is that sometimes award comparing ourselves to people, and also like everyone has their own insecurities totally, you know, look, one of the girls would talk to anybody in one of them was like I don't really like talking to new people either, you know, so we're all carrying around these saying. Yep. And sometimes it just takes the first person like the girl the gem. Yep. Saying, hey, can work out with me right? And it wouldn't have happened if I went and said, hey, are you doing hit? I didn't say, like, hey, are you really as cool as I think, you know, but I asked an initial question to open a conversation. And I think that's one of the biggest things it's vesting interest. That doesn't mean it's going to happen every single time. But there's a strong lesson to be learned. There is usually comparison is rooted in a sumptious. And so the willingness to ask questions, I think is one of the best ways to fight it. Like we go back to being comfortable. Right. If there's someone ahead of me, I could easily say Jamie has already launched a successful and our podcast has been around lot longer, and she's more successful or it can be like, hey, Jamie. I really admire you. We teach me what you know. Yeah. Yeah. There's just such a better experience with that. So hundred percent and I think too, like understanding how to fight these things like last year. When I lost my book, there's jealousy is not something I shall go with its I have a long list of struggles. Jealousy is not one of them, and I guess this kind of sounds like comparison as well. I launched my book. There's someone that I know personally that also launched around the same period as mind, give or take a couple of months, and I became like weirdo jealous. Not publicly. Sure. Just my friend. Amanda every single day. Yeah. And I remember that situation taught me was that a my friend was patient and listened to me, but be I thought I've got to know how to fight this, because I thought this wasn't ever going to affect me and here it is affecting me. Yep. You know, it's sneaky and I always want to encourage women is that, like, have tools in place for fight the these things all rooted from the same thing. Yep. You know, like you can call it compares. You can call it jealousy and envy, whatever they're all, like insecure. Yep. And you said like. Understanding, and so I think having a way to fight. It is so, so good. Yup. And I think that's often what we don't want to do like we. I think we sometimes settle for, and this is a big frustration of mind because I think sometimes we settle for like positive have formations. It's like those are good. We do need a reminder of truth, and things that are true. Even when we don't believe them, but I think we actually need things in our tool kit, like actual action steps in real strategies to tackling those things because I think we're just fooling ourselves then, like, just making yourself feel good isn't really ultimately going to get to the root issue. So they also come along. Exactly. So it's like what's the root issue here? How can I tackle about what are their strategies to tackle that? And to address it. And I you know, it's why loved the word own because there isn't element of personal responsibility. I always talk about. Like you have to take responsibility for your insecurities. Nobody's gonna make you feel better about those like you have to decide if you're going to allow those things to bully you, if you're not allow them to just take over your life or if you're gonna take responsibility for them in own it. That's a really big thing that I've had to learn over the last year. And usually when you truly owned something, it's more than identifying like, oh, I'm insecure about my arms or insecure about filling the blankets like. No mean insecure about this, because and you have to fill in that second part of the statement because a lot of times we don't want to do that. I'm insecure about this. And we either are offensive and share about on social media to relate to a bunch of people, and that's great. But are you really dealing with route issue or we complain about it after we take a picture on Friday night? Right. And it's like neither of those things are working. And so it's I'm insecure about this because so I had cystic acne like rough. It's still kind of battle, but it's been a lot better. I'm like my face looks like I just got mutilated like what is going on? It was so bad, and I'm like, I'm a married woman. This is like should have been solved at seventeen you know, and I didn't deal with it for a long time, because it was just such like weird thing to have to. I just felt like I'm not supposed to dealing with this, right? Yeah. When I finally went to the doctor he was like, look. This is a stomach issue. He's like this is not because you wear too much makeup. Or because like he's like, you don't have oily skin. He's like you either have high stress level too much sugar. Too much dairy and take or combination of all three or it could be bacterial. So even just hearing that, you know that we had to work through it is definitely a sugar issue, a little bit of a hormonal issue. But, you know. Like I literally never thought that I had tried every face wash every topical cream all the things you need to get to the root and he was, like, look. This is the stomach anything. It's the same way with any other insecurity, that we have in our lives, which good to hear you talk about that, because I would imagine there are people that look and be like, Jordan muscled struggle with innovative, because look at what we've got going on here. Right. You know. And so it's such a help. Yeah. When people look at someone that they respect and say, okay, she's finding the same things on fighting. Totally totally. And that's the thing it's like I go back to this, like having a platform and popularity does not make you immune to human condition it anyway. So true. And I think we often forget that looks like oh you got, like honestly four years ago. If you told me I'd be where I'm at with these kind of things like writing a book. I'll be like, oh my gosh. I'm going to be so competent. Yeah. Where you're like freaking out. You know, it's like I we believe these lies, like, once I get to that milestone hit this level of success, or how this thing it'll go away. It's not true. It's not true. I was at a conference recently. And there was a breakout that I was hosting with Jimmy Allen. Rachel Proctor, who was running for mayor of the city in Texas and Ruth, Joe Simon's. Okay. Three amazing. Amazing women. Yeah. I looked up to all of them in Geneva was speaking to these women who were in leadership, there, a select amount of women there. And she said something that was so good and needs to be said from anyone that has a micro up on them. She said, if you think that myself, this is Jenny speaking, if you think that myself and my friends, I'll show with the same things you do. Then you're feeling yourself like we're all struggling with this. Yes things if so, there is this. Like you just said, there's this, this live, that if I get here, I will struggle. And that's why I think that when you talk about getting into issue that route issue goes wherever you go, whether you right seven books, whether you start a company, whether you do whatever, if you don't deal with that it just go away. Exactly. And it doesn't I think it doesn't go away in totality, because we are broken people people. And so it like you had mentioned the beginning. So I think it's all right. I, I got it recognize an own the fact that this is a thing. And then knowing like we talked about how do I. Respond to things. What's my personnel invite that? Yeah. Right. And what's the best strategy in toolkit for me? Maybe I should ask some other women who have seemed to get a little bit better handle, on this or some mentors in my life or whatever, and actually implement this thing. And I like telling him like my people, here's what's going to. Here's what will be hard for me. Help me you watch for this. Okay. So I have a question for you. What do you like better? You do coaching. I have been doing coaching recently just because life. Do you like better coaching writing? Podcasting depends on my mood. No, I have loved getting to coach him. Entrepreneurs who also have a mission mindedness, because it's so cool to see equip them with those tools. I was doing that one on one earlier in the year and I got to the point where I had to kind of pull back just because there's only so much time. But I loved that I think my favorite thing is podcasting. It's so funny. It's almost like coaching thousands of one time, which is amazing. But getting to coach women in their work in their craft and in their gifts was really, really cool. And I didn't do it for a really long time just because of how crazy life was. But it brought like a spark in me. I was my husband even said, he's like, there's something different that comes out to you, and you get to speak on this, like you've never really loved yourself into this space until over the last several months, and you tiptoed into it, and like you just come to life. So I think I really do love getting to coach other women and a very organic way. The second favorite thing is for sure podcast, this so fun. It's so easy. It's like well, it's not easy. That's for sure. But it's so like I don't need to wear pants. This is us. For I envy people in personnel. So I do have those on. Okay. So we always ask our guest, what three things that you love in, what are you reading. I have been loving primarily pure. He's wonder too. It's amazing. I'm like this is great such an awesome invention which which deodorant user veteran. Yes. Okay. Which one to use? I've been using the blue Tanzi, but I also really love their lavender, okay? Charcoal? Okay. Well, yeah charcoal when I work out for ya, I liked, and then let me think about what am I reading? So matinee actually just listened to love does together. I had read like parts of it separately. And he had read a couple of chapters, but we actually put it on audio book in the car. And we read twelve roles for life. That was kind of interesting read that is a very cerebral read, like, oh, this, I would suggest listening to it. If you're going to it's a really very interesting. We enjoyed it, it's one of those things that are like this has to be on audiobook, or you're like mind, just can't hint. It's, it's very practical. He's so cerebral. And the way that he talks that it's almost like this is a lot. Yeah. So, but we really thought that was an interesting read. So those are a couple of things they've been talking out. And yeah I love it. Well, join us been fabulous say down with you. Thank you. It's good to be here on your release saying, thank you. It's so fun. It is fun Joyce, every moment. Thank you. I had way every book release enjoy every interview enjoy at all. It's fun all the little community parties around the country. It's I love it. It's so fun. So own your every day, it's out get anywhere. Books are sold. Did I say target target? You can go see the trailer playing in target would just. Mainly I was like, I know. So it's kind of fun. Well, congratulations. Thank you. Keep doing what you're doing. Thank you. That's older. Women are cheering you on. So I'm proud to be a great job. Thank you. All right. Friends. Thank you for listening. I wanna remind you one more time about threat up if you want to save money. Save the planet and look good for doing it. Yes, I'm Dan for all three. It doesn't get any better than thread, the largest online consignment and thrift store shop over thirty five thousand brands at up to ninety percent of estimated retail Goto threat up dot com slash happy hour for an extra thirty percents off your order. That's threat of T. H R, E D, UP dot com slash happy hour for an extra thirty percent off today. You guys Jordan said, establish your why and believe it before before anything happens before you look at social media before you publish a new project before you meet with friends before you decide on the next step. What is your WI I have done that in my life? And I think that is some really good advice because things will get hard businesses will fail. But what is your WI also who would have thought that when, in a handwriting contest, and third grade would be what God used to help Jordan, starting her hand lettering, business? I loved the way small things in our life come together. I also love hearing that story about her sitting in her sorority college luggage closet shipping out orders with all of her girlfriends feeding them pizza and realizing that business and ministry could come together as a voice of encouragement for women in their faith. God is doing great things through her, and it started back in a closet in a sorority room. Jordan story reminds us to stop and look around at what you are. Doing where you are the first way to honor God is to show up exactly where you are be sure to check out Jordan's podcasts, the she podcast and all she's creating over at her blog, Jordan Lee duly dot com today. Show is ended by Chris with pod shaper, and the music was developed for the show by Matt Graham show notes written by Ocoee, soccer's. And this whole thing is organized by Lindsey Sweeney next week. My guest is a lien joy. She lives in central Oregon with her husband, her tiny Asian, mother, her three kids, a dog a bunny and a bunch of chickens. She writes about her life with bipolar disorder as well as grief. 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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 11/27/20--Weekend Preview

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 11/27/20--Weekend Preview

"Narrow maximum security has been defeated king for a day. This is the jason beam horse racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for horse racing news interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host jason. Be good friday morning. Y'all welcome into the jc horse racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires it is a black friday edition of the program. We're live this isn't the best of this isn't Tape well it is a tape but We're recording on thanksgiving. I hope you guys had a wonderful holiday. If you're listening to his on thanksgiving evening hope your dinner went. Well hope you're digesting feeling better. I'm i'm actually getting ready to start my thanksgiving cook as i as i record right now. going to do a nice prime rib some baked potatoes on the smoker. And it'll be a a lovely meal my. I've made prime rib about three weeks ago. When i was down in oregon i bought a traeger. I've talked about it. Like i'm i'm i was born to smoke. I this is this. Is something missing out. On the first twenty years of my life was having a smoker. I am totally traeger guy. Go to youtube and google like traeger guy. There's even skits about guys. I am that guy. Like i'm in there to make sure i got the right pellet combination and so have a good smoke profile. It's it's it's pathetic but i made a horseradish sauce with the prime rib last time. It's unbelievable to me. I've had horseradish sauce on prime ribs at various points in my life. It's unbelievable to me how easy it is to me. it's like sour cream. Couple scoops of voice of prepared hot horseradish and like a little dash of white wine vinegar and some salt and pepper. That's hit and it tastes amazing. I'm like this tastes like the stuff at the restaurants who knew i never knew what it was made out of but now it all makes sense so very excited for that meal and getting ready to open watching some thanksgiving day horse racing. The fairground seems like about halfway through the car. They got the audio and video stuff. Mostly figured out. I need my john dooley. I can't. I can't have not have my john dooley need my john. Dooley del mar there was a d q. In the first race of the day on thanksgiving and d q. Twitter is always entertaining. It's always It's always fun. I feel like we have moved to the point where a lot of people have joined. The side of don't penalize the better for the jockeys bad decisions penalizes the jockey after the fact aka us fines to dish out the punishment as opposed to take the horse down which i would guess that. There's probably both right like the horse gets disqualified and the horse gets taken down. I get the sentiment behind that The way the rules currently are like maybe it's because i'm so conditioned by what the rules of been over the many years I just think that if you foul someone severely you should get taken down. But i don't know if that's because i haven't seen you know the the more progressive rules where you know you leave the result but you heavily fined the writer. I don't know I mean i have to think as a country in in just our society. In general i mean we use punishments fines as deterrence for behavior. But as we know those punishments and fines do they will never deter all behavior. I mean even if you threaten some life in jail there still people get killed all the time And so even if you threaten heavy fines in the heat of the moment there's going to be writers who still make dangerous and and fouling moves You know if they're trying to correct a horse who just i saw replay of iraq going down the spread up on twitter. I don't even know when it was from but it was one of those deals where the horse just took a complete left. Turn on its own and even if it was a result of of him striking the horse and the move was so dramatic that there's just nothing the writer could have done to have stopped it like a situation like that. I don't think you find the guy right. I mean it has to be where. There's a little bit of recklessness a little bit of maybe even malice on the writers part to get through and i think pratt exhibited that in that first race he was he was clearly on the best horse and to some degree i think he of course he was trying to get out but i think the people on the best horse a lot of times feel very entitled to have a run through like they're like you know they they feel like hey i'm on the best horse. Let me out and let me win. And that's just not how it goes like if you position yourself down toward the inside you're going to get stuck down there. Sometimes and by the way like he was in a situation where there were three of them in a line he could have kicked out to the four wide side at any point and i believe still won the race quite easily but he wanted to wait and get his spot. It wasn't really there and so he horned his way through and he got disqualified on on the best horse for it and so I don't know. I think we can have the discussion. But i'm open to the idea that you know Should that horse. That horse was going to win the race. Most times out of you know out of him And even if practice wait a little longer he probably still gets through and doesn't have to make the big dramatic move. I mean down the stretch horses do have a way of kind of separating themselves a little bit more. It's rare that you see three four or five of them all in a line And then he could have also by the way kicked out. Maybe still wanted as well so you deaf. I mean you definitely don't want to reward him for what is dangerous behavior but also against the rules behavior. So i guess maybe the the best thing to do is to attach a large fine to it and You know maybe that prevents it next time. Who knows who knows Excited for a racing and act to get back underway. Of course they took thanksgiving off. Read that they they. They used to run on thanksgiving. I think they had a cancellation last year. For whatever reason probably weather and then this year they just elected Not to do it but some good cards coming up at acqueduct over the next few days. the friday card kicks off with the as far as the stakes action. Kicks off with the gio ponti stakes one hundred thousand dollars At a mile and a sixteenth on the turf course and i was. I was wondering if if christoph clermont would have one ear because didn't he trained gio ponti am i remembering that correct And he does have city man in here. I think that like trainers. I'm convinced that they like to win. Races like we're horses that they trained And of course you know. The owner has the final. Say of what race. You're going in and whatnot. But i always think there's a little something to that. I i saw a couple of weeks ago. Just nicholson had Hawke who was by artie. Schiller in the artie schiller steaks. And i kind of peasley asked like did you. Did you go in this race because it was the right spot because you wanted to win his sires race. And he's like no. We bought the horse four years ago pointing for this. But i think there's a little something to it in the city man's one who's just been knocking on the door at short prices. Mind you and hasn't been able to break through. I always look at these type of horses who consistently speed figure. Wise results wise. They're always in the hunt but they just don't break through a lot and i look at him in a couple of ways like in to some degree you know when they're going off at forty five or six to five like this horse has in his last couple. They seem like such good horses to go against now. Six to one in the morning line. And if he's going off that kind of a price now it becomes well you know if he's in the hunt all the time. Is he gonna win this race every six six time or fifth time before time as opposed to every you know sixty percent of the time becomes a much more interesting proposition. I think But fundraise here big full field. And you know a lot of. I think interesting ways to go vans zee shows back up here. We've seen pretty. Well traveled over the year here. the other dimension was basquiat. The chad brown horse chad not off to an incredible start act would have seen a few of his Favorites burned some money at this but to basquiat one. Who i kind of joke like you know. It's named after the painter. Basquiat who who knows painting. Self resilient dollars. There's there's a little bit of a weird thing with me like if a horse has kind of a regal sounding name like this i always feel like they have to be especially if they're well bred like or do run to their name. Sometimes like there's an old joke like you can't win the derby with a really bad name and maybe that's true but Basquiat has been on the turf twice and run fairly well and beaten by horses in both occasions. That came back to win. Its last couple. I think a horse. That's probably got some talent and Just kind of maybe. It's take that next jump forward. Maybe that time off. will help with that In gio ponti. On coming up on. Friday the Other friday stakes calmly stakes. Now miss marisa comes into this race. She's three two one drawn on. The radio comes into this race with three straight victories and two of them at big prices. Twenty one up at zero toga. And then last time on the black eyed. Susan one at ten to one for james ryerson. I thought you know contested early on but kinda got the jump and then if you remember bonnie south had we talked about it yesterday had that terrible trip was way way behind and still almost came and got miss marisa from a visual standpoint. I just think it was such an advantageous trip by miss maria. And maybe you know maybe. She did. Put the horse away and deserved. I am not say. She didn't deserve the victory. she did but I just thought that she had such an advantage from a tactical standpoint. Last time that i just don't know if that's going to be the case on particular day. Todd pletcher has thankful who's coming into this race off to very nice wins in a row. was able to beat maidens and then beat first time winners And beat mrs danvers. Who's in this writer outside. Actually who's five two in the morning. Line mrs danvers. If you remember was Was pretty highly thought of back in the spring was a really nice maiden win at saratoga last year then came back at belmont on belmont day and ran behind indian pry but took a lot of money that day. And i remember. There was a lot of buzz about Mrs danvers back. Then and and finally took her another few starts to actually break through and get a win And it was last time out against allowance competition at belmont at a really short price. I'm just. I'm just not getting the hype For for this one Gail comes in here for jonathan. Thomas was bar. Had been a little chilly. And this this to me seems like maybe one of those accidental. Oh my gosh. What did we do because The horse was very good on debut. Came from way way back. But by the way against Maiden forty thousand claims at laurel and they paid four hundred and fifty thousand so they obviously thought they bought something really nice so then odd to debut against you know maiden claiming forty But i think it was a waiver claim because they have a w next to it but anyways ends up. Running third gets moved up to second because but hedda overcome canada bad trip so they put the horse. Stay on turf. The next start out. The horse runs off. The screen wins by six. They go for the first time it gets winners. And he gets reigned off and she wins by thirteen and rack up. Ninety nine brisbane at figure and so part of me thinks that they're like well holy crap the source can run dirt. You know maybe we did you know we paid a lot of money but maybe we maybe we did do right. So i'm real curious to see how that one can Shape up forever together. Stakes a mile and a sixteenth another Big interesting grass race. I think with a lot of Different ways to kind of approach this particular race My heart blogs daddy has become kind of the hot new york bred in terms of the filly and mare. This is stepping out into open company but not a big jump Miss tehran is a brown horse. Who you know we have been off a long layoff. Came over and deputy monmouth which is generally kind of chad. Second-string down there but ran pretty well and obviously some confidence. He comes back with this one up in here And then tampa today. The other chad brown draws way on the outside out in post twelve one. The athenian ask timeouts dropping back into a listed company I mean this horses. Just been altered ultra-consistent for chad and at this grade three level or even down lower here at the at the listed stakes level Should be a major major player. And i think probably going to be one that a lot of folks might might single and And might try to get through there on the friday feature Oh saturday aquidneck. The discovery my small field. So it's a great three but we see the return of shared sense. Who is the brad cox horse bradshaw. I think brad even sent went out to delmar. We'll talk about del mar in the second half of the show but you know he. He's obviously very comfortable at this kentucky base but He'll he'll ship out every so often in new york is he's not a stranger there but shared sense one of those horses who you know is is. It was a good three year old. They tried the the smarty jones bat you know. They started to maybe dip a toe into the derby trail. But it didn't go very well. They backed off the horse and then subsequently now has kind of became every year. We have you know all these kind of state derbies. I know that the way the kentucky derby trail was this year it kind of was a little wacky but you get the horses that find these state derbies and of take advantage of nice purses grade three kind of structure and shared census. Kind of been that Going to new york obviously a little bit of a different thing. Here and taking on. I think kind of a good field monday morning. Qb the maryland. millions champ. Force the oro. The three for bill. Mott i know bill off to a very chilly. start here and maybe that's You know you can always look at that as one of two ways right like. He's a good trainer. He's going to get back on track. Or hey maybe now's a good time to go against him because he's still belmont his name still going to carry some weight at the wagering windows and you know junior off pretty slow start but they team up quite a lot and so it's bound that those two were going to kind of go hand in hand but this one is coming off a win got crushed in the rimsson again at a short price. I think maybe a little bit of a go against and then attachment rate for dale. Romans comes off that big win if you remember. That was a sloppy track race in a very small field and this kind of went out to lead and did dispose of rivals. But that was a big drop from where this horse had been running. Obviously the kentucky. Derby is pretty tough but you know had been running in the blue grass. Park derby against very good horses Certainly a contender in here I tried to. I mean i know. Dale goes over to new york every so often. But i'm trying to remember kind of some of the success or lack of success. He's had with Those horses but Yeah attachment rate of virginia bread. Maybe we'll see him Colonial next year for a little steak. But yeah just a little field of five in there. And i think an interesting group. I'm real excited to see if monday morning. Qb can kind of make that That step up was very good against the maryland-breds but obviously Deeper waters in in this particular spot. Nice maiden special weight on saturday ecuador in race. Six for the two year old sprinters You know some some well bred in high price types rugged union for todd pletcher and the gop stable folks. Who shows up in there for the debut. Jonathan thomas has a nine hundred thousand dollar debut reddening almo- for lapente and and some of that group so kind of a fun event there subsidizes. You know kind of a classic chad brown. Of course that's been third second bet both times but hasn't quite got there I'm just you know the fact. This one debuted at monmouth again. I always think know monmouth chad. Kind of sends his second-string down there and so I'm just always going to be a little. I mean i'm always gonna be shied away from his. That are short prices anyways with other alternatives. But this one in particular. I think the doesn't show a ton of confidence that he started this one over there. The seventh race on saturday program central park stakes for two year olds at a mile and a sixteenth on the turf course. These are my worst races. I'm telling you. I'm so bad at these. You're trying to predict. The surface changed for a lot of horses. If you're breeding player if you're someone who likes to project whether horses will stretch out whether they'll make switch on surfaces This is a fun race for you. It's just not in my wheelhouse. And so i just didn't have a whole hell of a lot of thought about this particular one the aquit of turf sprint championship though definitely excited to see Site off i thought was an interesting entry in here. You know we know. This horse has been a good turf sprinter but no longer with the chad. Brown bar goes to todd pletcher This horse went on. Its game is very speedy early in very dangerous you know has been in the exact. A seven out of twelve in. The career should be a short price on saturday. L. tormenta the woodbine mile winner of twenty nineteen shows up in here. We haven't seen this horse since. May after that would by maya win they. They tried to breeders cup. Mile horse ran fine. I mean six four in this nothing you know horrible or anything but the field but really came back somewhat dull in those next couple of starts at gulfstream park. I don't know if the horse just didn't like gulfstream if it wants to get back to woodbine which obviously it's not going to this year. I know they're still fighting. That would bind so keep an ear out on the on the news in terms of the future of woodbine racecourse for this season. It sounds like they're supposed to know something Later on the night and thanksgiving so hopefully we'll know something but l. tormenta ida that race horse that such a good trip and you know certainly had a little bit of an explosion. This horses had success going seven and even six. But i think is going to be a little bit far off the pace The price is certainly going to be intriguing but i just don't want horse turf sprint. Coming from too far back. I will tell you. I'm completely against therapist. I know therapist won the artie schiller. Last time out. That was a mile race. Ecuador cuts back to the sprint here and has a couple of seven. Furlongs sprints on on the page. Those were at belmont park. You know those are just obviously a little bit different and one of them was able to close in from far far bag ran big that day To be fair. But i just think it a short price. Eric can't sell getting on board. Not the regular writer. I thought it time to go against Therapist and then the long island stakes the final stakes race on saturday ecuador and actually the final race. I do say. I love when tracks and cards with big stakes races to me. It's a fun way to do instead of having to hang around for a cheap maiden race you kinda you either hit or you. Don't you wait for tomorrow. but I i've known some track start to do it Muthu makina for christoph. Climate to clermont has just been sizzling at the academic meetings. The thirty four percent from twenty nine starts. Five seconds and dylan davis. This is a horse who he got from france. That came over ran. The score took a lot of money and just about one had some traffic trouble. If you watch the replay Really had to steady and then all of a sudden had to switch way to the outside before finally really getting going late. I think this one is going to get some support off. The it was kind of those obvious troubled trips in the ones that everybody's going to notice and You know. I kinda bet and look forward to theodore biegel a real hot this summer when the dance smartly Won the tv g down at kentucky downs. And last time. Out in the ep taylor just kind of you know was prominent but just couldn't keep it up. I think that was a little bit of a regression spot. If this one can get back to her best. I think she becomes a little bit interesting in this spot. Should mcgehee has hungry kitten. Who was second last time out. with Just ahead of muthu makina another one. Who came flying from off the pace. It was a yield course that and maybe getting back to a A firm turf helps us. One source had won two in a row going into that race but just a challenging puzzle here. I think a lot of different ways to look in the long island to aquidneck i. We'll take a timeout. we come back. We'll chat a little more. Del mar as we look ahead to a big weekend out there. Pick full fields in the states race though stakes races del mar every year the end of november once. They seem to draw really big fields. I remember i went the last couple of years and each day it was like thirteen fourteen horses and they i remember last year. They were quite forceful but still like at least you know something interesting to talk about. We'll talk about them right after a short break. Friday edition of the jason beam horse racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires the jason beam bore racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires is your home. Daily thoroughbred horse racing conversation join host. 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I mean i hate crowd so like going to a mall. Crowded mall at four six in the morning. Sounds like torture. I know for a couple years like they started. Basically making thanksgiving night into black friday. But i i don't know if i feel like that settled down a little bit last year. There were revolt like people like hey let people stay home and hang out with their families. I mean it really is like you're talking about like. Oh i i can wait six more hours and christmas for another months. She's calmed down. Everybody i never got the thursday night shopping thing. But that's you know we that's what we do sometimes. Here's we do crazy stuff. I will say i got. I bought a nice watch over the spring and summer. And i've really enjoyed it. And i've been having a lot of fun like looking about watches and i was looking at buying another one and then i'm like no hold this. This has the feeling of something that's going to go bad like next thing you know. I'm going to have ten of omen have a whole collection as maybe this is one of the things like maybe once a year i'll treat myself to. I'm not buying anything. High price like a rolex or anything but you know i like a a good one. I wanna get an automatic one. That's like its own little working system instead of on a battery but yeah. I'm i'm worried that that'll become my my new expenditure hobby in in twenty twenty one but So far resisted. There was one. I really liked. It was a A law gene. Which is i gotta lunging watch and i love it and so like the and it's funny because the only reason i even looked at there's work because obviously there have you know there's sponsor a lot of horse racing and so i knew the name but then as i looked at more and more different kinds of watches i realized i like their style more than almost of them and there was one it was. It's the lone jeans. Nineteen forty five from the heritage collection. And oh man. It's very simple but it. It has like a little second style at six o'clock and it just has a very old classic look and they use a rugged distressed leather strap off that one's on my that's my wishlist that one. Oh man is cool. But i told myself i said no. You don't need it you don't need it. You have other focuses right now in your life you want to work on and so you don't need to spend a lot of money like that so i was. I talked myself down the hollywood turf cup the feature on a friday coming up later today del mar. It's the you know it's a lot of the same cast of characters. The oscar dominguez is a like we see him every time. One of these Super long route red king makes his return back to southern california off a ninth place. Finish in the breeders cup. Turf course Del mar the site of his signature. Win in the del mar handicap where he made the famous move that Berta respo- lee is Was known for Respo- nemesis flaxseed. Pratt right to the outside on the the number four. Say the word. Who's the gail cox run. Won the grade one northern dancer and now heads out west to a run for phil d'amato Same same stable group and everything. So i'm assuming it's one of those things where and this horse whenever comes to america gets a new trainer so i'm assuming that that's just kind of what that is and obviously with covert. I don't know that the canadian trainers could even come out to do it. I think you can cross for work right maybe not but The horse comes in in in pretty spectacular form. I mean a horse who likes to come from far off of it and so obviously he's going to need help trip and i always feel like del mar is not the best course for the deep closer types just because the stretches kinda short. I mean del mar is shorter than the traditional mile homestretch. It's not it's less than three sixteenths of a mile of actual street running surface from the top of the stretch to the you know they kind of have broader turns that make it a little bit unique in that sense but i feel like a lot of times. These deep closers there. They don't get through when they stay inside so they have to kind of circle up way wide. It's always a little bit of a to me. Not the best situation to be in. If you're a deep deep closer at del mar arklow coming in for the hollywood turf cup. Which is kinda cool You know obviously well traveled worst but The only time. I remember seeing him out west was for the breeders cup back in twenty nineteen. He's generally always been kind of a mid west and east coast kind of guy you know. He did wake up at kentucky downs. Which you know we know is attract. He's fared pretty well out over the years You know will. Del mar be one that he fares well on. I mean i guess we'll see but at five two i just gotta think there's some other decent offerings. I'm curious to see the return of acclimate who we know is a a very firm running type one. The del mar handicap here back in two thousand nineteen One the san juan capistrano back twenty nine hundred very dangerous horse up on the lead. He ran the breeders cup against bricks and mortar and then has been on the sidelines This is a big ask from phil d'amato to have him. you know. Be ready to fire against this quality of horse off of a little over a year layoff. And so. But you're going to get the price too and i just kind of like looking through your like well doesn't look like there's a lot of speed in this racers the horse in the outside five star lynch if it draws in is kind of a speed type but i don't know i'm I'm a little intrigued at a big price with that horse will do. Graham ocean has macario. Who ran in the turf classic at belmont last time out in a finished a pretty decent second behind channel mayor who came back to run very very well in the breeders cup That was makarios. First domestic start add. It was certainly a a solid one at the mile and a half distances shortens up here a little bit and i figure has to be a major player. Many frank a lot of the big riders. Going out west for this This big weekend. Of course saturday and sunday kind of the the big ones and the biggest dance of all is the hollywood derby which is just an awesome awesome race so excited for this one two mile an eight. Which in del mar they started in that. Shoot right for the mile. On eight mile sixteenth races and i feel like the outside posts are not good places to be there unless you really have some speed to get over because you. You're you're almost like a weird way. It's almost like a three turn rates because you go through that straight away in the shoot and then you turn and then you pretty much immediately go into the you know the first formal turn and so if you get stuck out wide four get about it. You are screwed. And who draws the thirteen posts but belmont derby winner gustavo completely marooned on the outside and the horse i think is just completely coming into his own and a very very big talent that he is going to be tested with that post position and by the way he's going to be tested because there's a really good field in here Decorated invader who we know is now suffered two straight defeats Both at sub even money prices. He's been sub money's last four. I think you know he has a reputation which you know. And he's the ever come horse too. I mean that's the kind of the interesting factor of this is clermont also so he's kind of got a two headed monster here and i know that they were entered to run against one another before but they scratched goof. Oh that particular time. I have never thought a ton about decorated vader. I don't think he's a top shelf turf horse like this. I i realized given his record and betting support. That might sound silly. But i do think that against the very best in his division that he is just not that far ahead of everybody. If at all and so i don't get why he is always just crushed at the windows so much You know he's never run at del mar before. So that's a little bit of a question mark but I just to me a lot of its price price dictated. What does he end up. Going off. fat The horse the beat him last time. Get smokin kind of just stole it and got the jump off from in that one shows up in here again Domestic spending chad brown has had some great success at del mar over the years. Iran comes out in. This horse has been You know just complete nails early on his career and You know he. He'd lost decorate invader but that was in his third career. Start and it does seem like move forward last time. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this one takes the next step forward and ends up being a really really good turf three year. Old some interesting entries toward the inside storm the court of course last year's breeder's cup juvenile winners not seeing the winner's circle since then and they've kind of been tinkering with different options. I think they're just putting him in races that he's just not really good enough to win. I mean that race kind of fell apart last year. And i think the connections just have it in their head that like. He's this great horse. And i just don't think that he is and then tie sean. Who kind of you know was he was pretty. Well thought of their you when you went to oaklawn and you know. We got crushed in the iran. Good i mean in the oakland stakes after he made a premature move but then he got crushed in the arkansas derby subsequent to that. He hasn't been great but then they tried him on the turf in the american turf ramp pretty big and so they try them on the turf again at keeneland and he ran okay. It was kind of a you know a scramble race at the end that ever dangerous one. But i think you know. He's i think horses like him and like storm the court when they're not going on dirt i think a lotta times the connections. Just wanna see. Hey maybe we give them a try and turf maybe a wake up and seems like for thais shawny candidate What a fun race. Though the hollywood derby really really looking forward to that on what should be Just an awesome saturday some other stakes Action at del. Mar on that closing Weekend this is close weekend for them. Right yeah the jimmy durante. Stakes the two year old fillies at a mile on the turf course and you get a couple of coming out of the the surfer girls stakes pizzazz who finished third closing remarks. Who finished fourth a couple of nice maiden winners and certainly not. it doesn't seem like the top of the division. I guess fluffy socks for chad brown I would think is probably going to loom as a pretty sizable favourite in the spot. But the jonathan thomas bay storm is was awesome. Sprinting last time out now Can try the stretch out. And i i mean this is going to be a price. I think the morning lines. Not even out. But i'm real curious to see what polish lady does for mike mccarthy You know they tried santa anita rather it didn't go great in the debut because the horse had not a trip that i start and it was just debut came back to win really nicely over the synthetic golden gate going six. Which i know is really far from here. But i feel like sometimes speed figures at smaller tracks. They they just don't get sometimes they're either too high or too low and i'm almost wondering if maybe this one just is not quite representative of how good the source might be. I think the horse is going to be big price. And that's the reason. I thought it was kind of to look for a way to campaign for the source because i do think there's some some potential for this wanna be good. I mean it's obviously a big acid test. But as i always say like you're not gonna get thirty two one on horses that have a lot going for. That's kind of how thirty two ones work. But anyways just a quick look at around the world for racing. Friday and saturday. We'll be back on. Monday to recap all of it Looking forward to our guest. Next week brian. Nato who's the one of the new analysts at fairgrounds will join us recap opening weekend at fairgrounds. I'm particularly excited for wednesday's guest. Joe steiner is gonna join us. Joe a lot of you might remember longtime jockey on the west coast road in southern california Started out at long acres up in my neck of the woods and he's actually working as agent for rocco bowen who another northwest guy. Who's having some good success. In india grant and now win some races a churchill. We had rocco on the show few years ago. And he's definitely on my to get list here for the wintertime season. I i thought it'd be fun to talk to. Joe who's had his own journey in the sport Coming up next week. We'll do some horseplay thursday. We'll have the cherry and it'll be great. But i'm gonna go enjoy my thanksgiving dinner. I'm going to have a relaxing weekend and looking forward to talking with you guys all next week. You can always keep the emails. Come and jason charles g mail dot com and everybody have a good safe holiday weekend and we'll see back on monday

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The Local And National Future Of The GOP

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The Local And National Future Of The GOP

"Welcome back to radio boston. Mtc on during and we want to talk now about the republican party in the commonwealth and nationally. We're gonna take your calls on the state of the party and its relationship with president. Donald trump at eight hundred four two three eight two five. That's one eight hundred four to three talk to join us. This was a big weekend. For republicans here in the commonwealth party members convened in a parking lot in littleton to reelect jim lyons state party chair in thirty nine to thirty six vote over his challenger. State representative sean dooley of norfolk. Lions is an ardent trump supporter and has frequently clashed with. Gop governor charlie baker. He didn't respond to our request to join us today as has been the case with several previous invitations. Meanwhile on saturday at least ten republican. Us senators announced. They'll object to certifying. The electoral college results this wednesday and the republican secretary of state of georgia had an hour long call with president trump and some of his lawyers on saturday in which trump repeatedly asked secretary. Brad rapids burger to quote unquote. Find exactly enough votes to declare him the winner there. They are ready ballots in my opinion based on what i've heard and they are removing machinery And then moving fast as they can both of which are criminal fines. And you can't let happen and you are letting it happen all you know i mean i'm notifying you that you're letting it happen so all i wanna do is this. I just wanna find Eleven thousand seven hundred eighty loads which is one more that we have because we want to say that recording there courtesy of the washington post. So there's a lot to take in and no matter. The outcome of wednesday's usually pro forma session in congress. What is going to be the relationship between this. Gop and democratic republic going forward. How and will that play out. How should that play out here in massachusetts across the country. Join the conversation with your thoughts. Eight hundred four two three eight two five five. We have two great guests trying to help us make sense of it all today. Judge nancy gertner retired. Federal judge and senior lecturer at harvard. Law school judge gertner is also wbrc legal analyst and wb our senior political reporter. Anthony brooks judge gertner anthony. Welcome back to both of you. Got to be back great to have you. I'm going to start locally. We're going to get to that explosive phone call in a little bit. Anthony turn to you. And i want to start with the re election. Although it was a narrow reelection of jim lyons as the state chairman of the mass. Gop what does this signal to you that he won in this. Vote over representative. Sean dooley well it. Signals that The massachusetts republican party Is pretty much tied to donald trump in a big way. I mean steve. Lyons jim lyons was very much a trump supporter as as you mentioned and To be part of a very small party has to be said in a party that You know has been looking for a way to grow over the last couple of election cycles and and hasn't been able to do that will continue under under mr lines and we'll see how that goes You know his challenger was hoping to i think. Sort of hugh more to the middle. Shaun dooley the state rep from norfolk Talk to me before christmas. Saying things like we're obviously going backwards. He felt the message. Messaging was poor that there was a problem with the brand in tying itself so closely to president trump but a lot of massachusetts republicans feel differently and they stuck with lions and listeners. We want to know from you. Did the commonwealth's Republicans make the right call with jim. Lyons as the head of the state. Party are massachusetts senators on the right side of history. What about the republican senators. Who are going to contest the torri. College vote on wednesday eight hundred four two three eight two five five judge gartner. I want to play some sound for you. This is governor baker today at his covid. Nineteen press conference when he was asked about the effort in dc around the electoral college. I think the noise and the accusations and the commentary about challenging this way that is an affront to democracy into the voice of the people and for the life of me. I can't figure out how people in my party can say all the other elections in which there folks barely one. We're fine and the only one that they seem to have any concerns about someone the top of the ticket so interestingly the governor went onto excoriate congress for failing to focus on the right thing he wants 'cause on the pandemic he wants focus on vaccines. I did hear a dial tone there. Do we have judge gertner you there. Judge gertner yes. I am greats so i wanna ask you to two quick questions here. One this idea that one might challenge the outcome of a part of the ticket but not the other part of the ticket. So we're okay with the down ticket outcomes but the uptick outcome. The presidential outcome is fraudulent. I apologize if this is an ignorant question but is that even possible. The you know the question would be. Is that a thing and the answer. It be a thing. How could it be thing either. The election was fair and and properly conducted or was not a challenge. That says well. This part was fair and probably conducted but this part was not that kind of challenge. Let me let me be. Clear is a coup and not an electoral challenge. It's a coup essentially focused on who they don't like as opposed to a meaningful electoral kept challenge. So i just want wanna be really clear because those are strong words you are saying that there are members of the united states republican party. That are attempting a coup. Yes the the. What they're doing has absolutely no basis in the constitution. None whatsoever it. There have been instances in which congress played a role in the certification of electors when there was a fraud in the election which then somehow disqualified slate of electors and a governor governor selected another slate of electors and congress essentially had to choose between the two but one thing we know from the litigation and one thing we know from the investigations is that there has been no fraud that undermines any of the electors. That are now before the congress. So they are making things up and essentially. It's a ceremony that we know will not work for sure But the notion but the next time around having legitimize this it may and that is in ordinary dangerous. Okay anthony brooks judge. Nancy gertner. I'm going to ask you to stand by for a minute. I'm gonna bring to other voices in briefly each the first caller i call eight hundred four two three eight two five five. Ron is on the line from harvard. Massachusetts ron go ahead. Oh good afternoon. i just wanted to say that. I'm a conservative. And i have been most of my life and i actually stopped self identifying as a republican about five years ago five six years ago and it was over just the kinds of issues that i see more and more where the republican party seems to have been captured by what used to be called the tea party and gone down this road where they're no longer physically conservative no longer Social so i won't say socially conservative but no longer fiscally conservative and and This and president trump seems to lead this faction so don't think in massachusetts the republican party. Here when you spoke earlier about massachusetts only Is gonna get any traction in massachusetts until they could move more to the center and become more fiscally conservative so run then that sets us up well to have a quick conversation with amy carnival who is a government affairs specialist and an elected member of the massachusetts republican state committee. Amy serves on the state. party's executive committee. Amy welcome back to the show. Thank you very much. So you publicly supported. State representative sean dooley of norfolk to be the state party chair. He narrowly lost jim. Lyons who is Has been strongly aligned with this newer version of the republican party. donald trump. you just heard our caller ron express some concerns as a lifelong conservative. What do you think is the state of the republican party in the state. Right now amy so starting in the state i would say you know it was a tough election. yesterday But you know. The party is not necessarily just defined by the two individuals who who ran for chairman. Our party is made up of republicans who represent a wide spectrum of us And it wasn't close vote You know the vote. It was within three votes. It was the boat was thirty nine to thirty six with one person Not choosing either candidate so you know. But it's it's not as simple as choosing one or the other i i did. I supported jim. Lyons two years ago because you know. I believe as as do many in our party that he's given a lot of attention to our to grassroots republicans in Building the party from the ground up in local communities and that had often been neglected By our our par- elected party leadership On the other hand over the last two years That relationship with the corner office. Where the governor has not been as robust as i think it could be And so that. For that reason. I i did Decide this time to support. Sean dooley because i think that that relationship is so important to to funding viable candidates In the commonwealth of massachusetts You know at the end of the day. It's important to remember that our party is is is a large spectrum and you know all are welcome You know in the republican party and one of the latest news this weekend. Amy before i go back to anthony judge gertner. I mean you have the audio of the president's phone call on saturday you've got the move by a number of almost a quarter of republican senators Moving to to protest the the electoral college vote on wednesday. What do you make of that. And what does it mean here in in massachusetts for republicans. Well you know the issue of election integrity is a key issue for For republicans Broadly so i think most republicans nationwide and and many active republicans here in the commonwealth You know do wanna see the process. Play itself out You know the the challenge to to the result in in particular states You know is illegal. Legal process And so the process will play itself out on wednesday. And i think i think many republicans are you know one. Wait and see how the debate proceeds on wednesday. And i think once that can process does play itself out on wednesday and can come to its natural conclusion then republicans will be kind of ready to move on And you know. Focus focus on the the the issues at hand And you know the next election to come okay. Amy carnival as government affairs specialist and elected member of the massachusetts. Republican state committee serves on the state. Party's executive committee amy. It's always great to have you. Thanks for taking a little time. Thank you so anthony. I'm just gonna ask you for your reactions to what you just heard from from amy there. Well i would like to have asked amy a couple of things about what she said. I mean it is interesting to hear talk about the republican party and where it stands today. But i mean here's where there were just just some numbers to throw out about where the massachusetts republican party stands. I mean it. Got completely clobbered decimated in the last election. They didn't pick up a single congressional seats. They lost in the senate every state committee member. Who ran for something from congress to county. Commissioner lost as of january republicans. Have just twenty nine seats in the one hundred sixty person house and in the forty member senate. They have just three seats. So the question is i mean jim. Lyons would argue that. Supporting kind of trump s kind of republican agenda energizes folks at the grassroots. And there's there's evidence that that is the case but you got to look at the most recent results of what the republicans massachusetts accomplished and that raises some trump. Some tough questions. I think for chairman lions about where he moves forward At this point in defensive. Amy carnival should she said. That's you know those those those are among the reasons. I'm sure that she supported. Sean dooley but the party does find itself in a in a challenging moment in its history here in massachusetts all right now judge gertner. I do want to sort of pick our heads up now and move more fully into looking at. What's in store on wednesday. You know earlier when we were talking to you You expressed concern that. This was an attempted coup. So i wanna ask you first. Is this an attempted coup. Using your words that could work on wednesday. Well i it doesn't look like it's gonna work because they don't have the votes but you know it's there's an old saw in american law about we're a government of laws but not of men. It's very troubling that it seems to me that a few quote men of good faith. They're all that stands between us and what is a complete sort of usurpation of power The se your previous caller the constitution this is not the city the system playing out with respect to elections congress in the absence and the absence of the kinds of situations i described before which is two slates of electors not because the republicans didn't like the first late but where there were real problems in the first late. That's the only role that congress would have from one end of the country to the other. None of the electoral slates have reflect those kinds of issues so saying that objecting to the election is the system playing out. It's just not true. Just not true is only role at this point as one commentator citizen opening the mail and that there are fifty states with certified audited Electors and that's their only roles. It's true anthony go ahead. No i would just add to what judge gertner said. I mean the idea of the system. And this is what i hear again and again from republicans who who support what the president has been trying to do. Trump claims that the election was stolen from him or fraud or fraudulently lost and yet dozens of courts have dismissed these legal efforts. I mean it's been rejected by sixty different different courts including the supreme court with three justices that he appointed so in terms of leading the system. Play itself out certainly. It has played itself out. I mean if if sixty different cases have been rejected so it isn't clear to me what these members of congress in what is left to play out. It's just not clear to me. And i completely agree with judge. Gertner spoken about this comes down to individuals. I mean if you look at the georgia's chief election official brad ravensburger. If he wasn't a man of some integrity and honor. Where would we be. Listened to what the president said and just said mr president. Your facts are wrong. But here's a guy who voted for president trump. What if georgia's chief election official was the next time around completely in cahoots with the president. Who wanted to overturn the will of the people. We'd be having a very different conversation today. I do want to then say okay. So what is the relationship between this republican party the piece of this republican party and i want to note there are folks like utah. Senator mitt romney former governor of massachusetts pushing back hard Senate majority leader mitch. Mcconnell saying he did not want republican senators to do this. I want to acknowledge that judge. Gertner where does that put the relationship between the members of this party who are stepping forward to contest on wednesday and the rule of law. Well the party is split And and the question is whether that was in fact will be among trump's horrific legacies here. We'll we'll be splitting the republican party But i think you really can't be said enough times it. There's so many times. When i was a judge that you know you want the lawyer would say something you say. Boy that really sounds like law. you know you got the right cadence and you got the right words a little bit of latin sprinkle in but it's actually not the law and that's what this sounds like the challenge this wednesday men sounds like it's appropriate. Let the process up. But it's really not remotely but the constitution that labs and the republican party is split between those who are willing to go through a ceremony really again a coup ceremony and those were not and but you have done. What will happen the next time around. Well that and that's great judge gertner because that was what i was just going to turn to. Anthony brooks. Then ask anthony. What does happen now that you know. It's like water in the basement. Once it gets in once keeps getting in. Well you know. I don't know. I'm reluctant to make predictions especially in this political climate. But i do think what we are seeing here. Is the republican party. Beginning to come to terms with the post trump era. I mean. I think it's it's that simple. And there are a group of people making a calculation people like ted cruz who hope to run for president and want the kind of grassroots support. The donald trump commands. And so he's willing to go to go along and go through this charade tomorrow to hold onto those supporters and there are people like mitt romney who have said you know. He was one of the four. He was the first republican senator who congratulated biden for winning the election. Who seemed to have a different view of what it means to respect constitutional processes. So i think that is the split in the republican party Playing out right now and it's going to be really interesting to see where it ends up and and i suspect that you know a couple of years from now or even three years from now when some of these people are running for election this this stuff is going to come back to haunt them but we will see about that jet gartner last question to you. I believe the majority of people are people of goodwill democrats and republicans. You know voters and non voters. What's the goodwill step. Everyone needs to take after wednesday. I think people have to recognize. Have to say out loud that this was a mistake in other words the republican side of signed onto this effort to need to acknowledge that this is really beyond the pale It's one thing to say. The republican party is split between you know more taxes less taxes You know identity politics this is split with respect to doing something extra constitutional and following the law. That's a very different kind of slid. I really think that the people who have followed the president down you know off this gangplank eat to turn around and say this was an era and have the kind of post trump reckoning that we had in the mccarthy era right that is judge. Nancy gertner excuse me retired. Federal judge senior lecturer at harvard. Law school in wbz our senior political reporter. Anthony brooks thanks so much to both of you for really digging in deep with us on this. Thank you stay tuned. there is more head. We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be back. I'm john during. This is radio boston.

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Episode #1964 The New Phil Hendrie Show

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Episode #1964 The New Phil Hendrie Show

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It's the lend dolton show as lang delton takes on the covid dont danton and then lang delton who provides not only the voice but also the music using his mouth and vocal cords done on and on that lang delton using the mouth orchestra and his beautiful singing style holds down the budget and brings the entertainment directly to you that data than done. And then don't don't thanks. Everybody and welcome to the lake. Delton show as you know i do. The orchestra sounds myself. I sing and we bring to you a great great show each and every week trying to bring a theme to you as part of our show. This week's theme of course. What else cove. We're coming out of it. We're getting better. We're feeling healthier. We're getting vaccinated but a lot of people are still sick. So we're going to address all tonight on langdale tin's tribute to the covid dun dun dun dun dun dun. I asked you how you senses smell. Was you told me you felt. It was okay. So i didn't bathe. Didn't shower not once last week. To see if the stanford breakthrough sure enough where. I said how you doing baby and i nestled up next to you. You couldn't smell a thing you thought i was from spring. You've got the covert cut. Your sense of spells gone at the data. Bill jets on drums that at that. So if she you she's got it bad and ask her if she can taste well. Dining stat taste baby. Then then you taste this baby. Dan anton if the answer's no then she's got the van and thanks a lot. that is called. She's got the vid. It's not all bad news folks. The vaccines are here. And here's my tribute to all of the hard-working frontline workers as well as all of you very responsible people going out and getting vaccinated let's go down to the dolts center. Let's go down to ballpark too. I need this shot to stay healthy. So you and i can be together forever and a day. Let's go down to the recreation hall. Let's go down to the fairgrounds to let's get the covert shot and the second dose and i don't mean a dose of the drip. I'm only kidding. Let's get the second shot right after the first shot let's be responsible citizens and not cookie way out cats that think that cova doesn't exist and then that's right let's be responsible citizens and not think it doesn't exist and not get the shot you know. Kovin came to us from china. That's right wuhan china. And i'm not gonna put down the chinese people. Let's look at it a different way. as the moon came up over the beautiful mountains of china about escaped with the virus. And then someone thought that and eight it someone cut that back eight it now. You know we're gonna eat it now you know we're going to eat it as a culture and the people as a fool civilization. We're going to eat it raw. Yeah yes it's the leg delton. Covert special lang delton. Who plays the mouth orchestra sings and writes all of these songs in less than ten seconds. So glad that you could join us here for the languedoc special on covid coronavirus and all of the attendant things you know. It's not a funny topic folks and we are not aiming to make it funny but we are trying to lighten it up around here okay. There's so many people with the dour looks on their faces. Oh my goodness gracious. There's so many people sick yes and so many people dying but let's look at the bright side. A lot of us are still alive. Two to rise and shine done. And i'm still alive in doon. Doon i'm not in the ground just yet still alive still alive. I'm not pushing up the daisies. I'm not dirt. Napping i'm not cold. I'm not in a box. I haven't been begged haven't been torched haven't been taken to the trash. I'm still alive and feeling for new unity. Glenn link toy piano. Do tune didn't do do do do do. he's still alive. I'm still alive. He's feelin right right. So baby lets you. And i go out for the night. Don't wear a mask baby. let's you and i go out for the night. I better not have to ask baby. Let's you and i go out do do. Here's a flask. Thank you great. Great great sound there. I'm still alive. We're still alive. we're still kicking. This is the laying delton covert special live from hollywood bowling dolton. Covert special live from hollywood. We'll be right back after these messages. My wife called my daughter wants me to call her back. My son wants me to call him. This is a message from my boss and shops. Curme cars repaired okay. That was like six messages though lang. Delton covert special is back. You know folks when i think about kovic corona virus. Yes there's hospitalizations yes there's been tragedy. Yes there have been the heroics there have been the people who have really helped us through and they've been the dummies as we referenced. Just before the break. People are wearing masks but some people. You just can't get through to them. Run due to my name is steve. I think i'm smart. But i'm not knowing but i'm not no he's not but i'm not really isn't smart. My name is steve. I think i'm bright. I won't wear a mask. I know it ain't right. And if i get sick i'll say it's the luck of the draw. If i get sick. I'll have to suck it raw. But it's my life not yours. My health years unless i infect you to then an aunt danton and that that in fact you to steve. My name's steve. I'm not too bright. I might infect you too but if i'm right not wearing a mask. Hey that's a smart move to it didn't turn turn turn langton user. Are you done. What are you. General gambling with the villain ratio. Are you done with both eight. No do i look like i'm done. Frankly issue do you look like you're done. You look like you're all in well in the middle. This thing i was told by mr. We understand that but the it ain't making it you with the whole. It's maybe that's but you thieves. But mr henry anywhere. Mr henry is not available right now. Asked me to take care of it. All i get it. Yeah i get okay. Thanks a lot phil where. Vr thanks thanks for nothing man. Thanks for nothing man. alright right. You're not john peanut bank robbery movie. Okay who just thank you very much mr elton. And are you guys still to push. By album on your. I don't know if mr hasn't the store not to clear out because we have i'm clean out. Don't worry about it that down and chases i'm lang delton. I've been eft eft in the rear. I'm lang delton. I've been told to clear out of a studio that i think i made much brighter with my music. Even though i can't carry a to. Andy can't hit the note either but i sing better than this woman who sometimes sounds like a guy he's get related to flick. It does as i touch you do now. I'll sing the star spangled banner properly all who say. Can you see by the domes early eight. What's so proudly we had the twilights last gleaming. Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the pair rulers fight all pods we watched were so gallantly street. It's real the bombs bursting proved through the jesus then are sorry that our flag was still there. Oh who say. Does that star spangled banned yet to wear. Hey he or oh. Oh brave famous. Fill up a cynical in southern california. Thanks to land a kind of kicking things off leonard. I'm margaret rain. But i'm kevin shaw and now the guy that big little happen phil henry. What is that about mixing that laying. Don't you kidney with him laying delton. I you know. A little bit of him goes a long way. I agree. I had to kick them off. The air related mean. Throw him off. Just then and there phil what did you mean these you get get your yank get the old vic. I was doing the jerk off boat. Show i sit. Get him off him off off the show. Welcome folks yeah lang was he was overstaying his welcome. There was some of that stuff. What was wrong with mr. You agree to hear langdale you. I thought he'd sing one song and get often. It was going to be a whole special. Ed i didn't know he was dealing with covid stuff that went wrong there. Welcome to the program folks today on the show or you might say on the second half of the show here. Bobby dooley is going to be joining us talking. Nutrition and it's something that's interesting to me because nutrition is something that I have been looking at. Because you know i'm now once again on a diet. How many diets have you been on seriously. I wouldn't how many of i've been on. I've been on. You know a couple since two thousand twelve. Feel you've lost the equivalent of what three hundred pounds you know i have. That's that's a dirty lie. You've you've lost the equivalent. You said the equivalent of something like three hundred pounds. That's bullshit i've lost probably. Yeah maybe a couple of hundred pounds. But it's not like you know. I'm walking around like a fat oaf man i lost it gained back. You know let's the toughest part taking the weight off and then keeping it off right and so babi duly is going to join us. You don't mind. Bobby dooley's joining us on our newsmaker line buddy. You're a mother of three young sons. You're a wife. You're the head of the western states homeless association. And you're now holding forth at a lot of these meetings on nutrition and on good eating habits. So what exactly. Why did you get into this this at this point. Well i just felt it was important argus. You know as a mother The things that. I don't about nutrition by sons things that i feel We really believe in full rich grains vegetables fruits meat. Are you a vegan. I know that feel was dabbling. Veganism there for a while. We believe the eating of protein But i say we buy sell city and my son and we have to believe in the eating of the protein with these very lean pork very lean ham So you agree with me. I've been doing that for quite some time to think i've heard you referenced. The lean ham and very much in the lean hams and the lean bright all of the lean porks and things like that. Exactly now the other question i have. Is we talk about vegetables. You talk about fruits. And i know you believe in a very healthy serving of those. You're afraid to so what part of the diet should have the vegetables. What part of the diet is protein In the mornings. I heard the boys. All the boys are very lean bacon for them and lean back and also broccoli And just jump in your serving them broccoli in the morning. Yes i just seems like a Does seem a bit It started usual breakfast food off what. What about fruit. They get their fruits. But i believe in giving them a whole ballots bresca so they start out in the morning. The word is breakfast. I'm sorry go ahead. I kept my sons and my husband a well rounded breakfast so they have the full rich dish along broccoli. Remind that sounds to me like something that is designed to give them gas. It's it's no. It's not designed to give them. Gas is designed to push out of system out of the colon all the imperative to take the form of gas as opposed to just all ways about is to be welcomed And so the morning they get full tissues four broccolis and a bull or two of put rich pinto beans have nothing but gas. Our buddies the nutritionist. Here alright right. Y'all don't you understand. I'm if it doesn't care and frankly if you're healthy and my son and my husband are very healthy then you can eat bowl full after bull after bull beans broccoli and asparagus and everything that comes out of you spell chipped by. They're still real odor. I can tell you for instance. It's phil again bobby. Yes i'm sorry to interrupt you. Everything that comes out of you is going to smell. Fine is what you said all right. So what we're talking about here is a diet your head. Yeah we're talking about diet whereby food to push imperative out. It has a fetid odor or stench to it as it is actually in the body that tells us a lot of tells us that you've been ingesting poisons and you did a good cleansing and the clintons and that's what i guess by by husband i can tell you. I walk into the bathroom after they evacuated. And i can't i don't sell much of anything. Okay you're kidding me. Right talk south because the impurities been pushed out michael all right. So they're eating broccoli. They're eating cauliflower. They're eating what else they're having been. And you said egg dishes before with scrambled eggs hard boiled eggs at least six x six exits five hundred calories just about and the reason why. I know that. I'm always counting calories at five hundred calories. A hardboiled egg is about an egg is ninety calories. You give them five. That's forty four hundred fifty five hundred calories right has done a lot of reading on this okay so but my husband and my son. Youngest son tends to be obese. He's five foot five and get too crazy with this filter. He weighs about one hundred ninety. Eight two hundred pounds five two hundred pounds. I feel but it's all good pure attrition and breaks breaks when it's clean pure unadulterated almost seriously. It's almost like a forest. It's like you're in the forest. So tell me that when cuts it says i an alpine forest where we're going to bring on dr baboon and dr coon from the yugo institute on these. You promised that we would not have to get these. These men are very interested in nutrition. And i'd like them to come on. And talk with you bobby about this because i know that you. These attitudes of these opinions of us are very extreme. A talked to or boon. Because i find both of those span steve. Let's just dr baboon. How are you sir. Oh good morning bill. It's a good to speak with you. And dr coon with you. Dr kunas here. You're fairly stock. A gordon We've been this with very curious school. what did you say. I want to go away. But i i. I'll let bobby wrap up what. She was saying what she was telling us. And then i'll let you gentlemen and bobby you had you wanted to add some things. So what do. I want to add some his answer thing. I would add That doctor dr boons are to from a holistic discipline. And i don't think they have the traditional background okay. I'm telling you right. Now that i feed by husted in my son's pork lean. Thin thieves supports and You know the veg- vegetables and asparagus when they evacuate it smells like you're walking in an alpine forest. Now i swear that baboon and dr kuhnen here you gentlemen are practitioners. Practitioners of the go exercises the yugo discipline. You start off and give us your opinion of what you just heard. Okay i got the lead to begin First of all i think is what the lady is saying. Well i can certainly appreciate that she. Has you know mindful of the health of her husband and son. I don't have any time that. But i think it's fair to say that is no way that you eat pork or peeved or any such food and then pass quinn break wind or have like an alpine forest but this recording sir. All right phone. I want to say that. I have listened to this woman and i also heard this land delton who saw like some out of control Clown singing about cloven virus like greatest stigmatizes. That's is the top of him. Since can beer. I couldn't tell you. And i know that will car that Miss duly Is lying. There's nowhere and sun breaks wind and it sounds like an alpine florist. I take your pardon my wife like i beg your pardon for. I don't mean to be rude but the moment but the boone toby that we won't be talking about nutrition and then i listen to you. Tell me to feed these been seeing thin reports. The doctor is starting to say sorta understand. It does not sound feasible that you could feed. These men didn't work very thin highlight ham and have them eat broccoli egg fully dish and then have evacuation as they do but the fact that we're focusing on evacuations. We're talking about you know this kind of thing is let me ask you a question. I think my husband is going to have to. What is your spell like what what does mine spill idiot. That man is by husband at more on. What am i still like. I tell you what to do on boy. You step up to the plate with all right. I'll tell you the only place right after dinner. You'll walk into whatever. Can't do you go into upset yourself upset. This they're totally. Please understand that. We have been involved in holistic nutrition for many years and none of this makes anything. It doesn't make any sense what you're talking about. Go and you're talking about these yoga postures. Were you wind up with your nose all the way up. Someone's rectum total thunder. We put the check ball. That check bodine wheeler who butchered up. Go yoga i used to forty one. He's got his story. So i totally get wrong. I did this. That is correct the record we did tell him. I'd we youngest franchise franchise rights. I don't care just licensing. we came. We pulled the club colors too. You know you'd like to hells angel or something. No these guys spiders. They could they could hanging. If i think the point is that what you're saying is injurious could be very injurious. And i don't let me jump in we. Dr raccoon dr baboon from the dodgers mukundan. Dr baboon from the yugo institute. We're also talking to bobby. Duly from western states homeowners association on nutrition. You feed your sons and your husband eggs broccoli. All of this stuff. sounds like. It's designed tennessee. This sounds as if it's designed bobby so then to have constant guests you know this woman is trying to what to do her husband and her fun pillar clear. Five square city blocks taught that we work very hard on nutrition. that is It's going to be acceptable to Mixed company because people know that those of us involved you go as yoga and some of the other disciplines We do eat foods. Rich garlic's we have a high threat. We have had a mini garlic dishes. And i don't mind telling you there are days when it is not a pleasant experience. Be sitting with balloon could be sitting with these mukundan with the balloon. Here you don't please. Don't call me the baboon. I forget fermentable all come. I bring my umbrella coal outfield and thank you. i'd say just do his bidding Boone come we go now. I don't do spitting them work for me. Okay you can have rich gravies. you can have as fishes broccoli. Sure that's right. And i think even more than i do now what i tell you. This guy is exactly the sweetest spell. He's not gonna sweet spelling flower patch. So let's go have to go now. We go cup you all right. There is a doctor raccoon. And dr bob moon from the institute co me. There obviously gone bobby. And steve duly with from western estates homeowners association. So this this devolved from talking about nutrition to talking about passing gas and and breaking win. So i wanted to go there. Reason for coming on the program was to talk to you about the good rich clean things that i'm serving my husband and yes. Their diet is rich and activities broccolis and so forth and garlic. Just as dr one of the two buner balloon. You care to recoup garlic's yeah Yes we have all of those but we make sure that the goal is to clean system so that after about the third the third to the fifth day of broccoli garlic diet everything coming out of you spell crisp windswept and very reminiscent for instance but afternoon at the ocean. You're talking about guy cuts one. We're talking about a fart here. You wanna put it that way. The ocean a day at the ocean. I tell you should too. If you'd like come to my house have breakfast with then. We'll go into the den. And i can show you some reading material that we do and while we're in baghdad. The gas will build uk. I'll have the boys come in. Seal the doors. You can get out. I'm not gonna hold you hostage anything but feel the doors go ahead and allow them to seep gas and you will swear that you're standing on a bluff overlooking the pacific ocean all horse done all right. Bobby tell you what we're gonna take you up on. That give us the dayton time okay. How do don't tell me now. But give us the date and the time. And we're gonna be there for this demonstration of the a cleansing of this diet. And how eventually smells like. You're standing on a bluff overlooking you're kidding right. Swear to god. I swear to god my wife let one day and get out of the car. Bell sunset sunset still like good. You know something. I thanks very much making an ass out of nations. Make an ass. Your husband's being a wise ass. Bobby listen we appreciate you coming on the program talking about nutrition. It's always important to me. Because i embark not barking now on the fourth week of this diet way to be lost. I've lost almost twenty pounds. I'm down below two forty now and i'm on back to buy old fighting weight. Which is going to be five luck. A dude. I've done it before. I'll do it again. Whatever it is still I don't know what you're doing. you're counting calories. You're going to need a good twin going to need to really be able to push it out and with our eggs and broccoli. Extravaganza really really can blow a lot of that bad stuff. Out of your issue try it. Yeah okay bobby. Thank you very much. I'll take that under advisement as they say all right. Well you got my number. Bobby duly steve duly and And i imagine the dooley's you're going to go over to their house. We're all going over there. Oh come on. we're all going over there. She said she was to demonstrated. 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Hour 4: 1/21/20

The Paul Finebaum Show

28:58 min | 1 year ago

Hour 4: 1/21/20

"They cried passion than pageantry of college. Football leaves here. The Paul Finebaum show our four podcast cast and welcome back man. The first three hours of the show just absolutely flew by this. Is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paul. Finebaum John Paul will be back in this chair tomorrow and we look forward to seeing him. Then but until seven o'clock we're here to take your calls at eight five five to four two seven two eight five and we we have. Let's go to Steve in Arkansas. Thanks Steve Tony. How's it going going? Great a couple of questions What do you think of saying Pittman in the southeast but together and Philippe eighth ranks is is going to be a good thing? Arkansas or is is this a wait and see well. Let's let's talk about the staff you've got kimbrell coming in as your offensive coordinator and it's clear. The Sand Pittman wants to open up the offense and and give them 'cause they're are going to have to do that to have any chance to win at all when you here's the thing about Philippi Franks Philippa. Franks is a very very talented athlete. He sometimes uh-huh plays the quarterback position exceedingly well. I think you'll granted that Dan Mullen is as good a quarterback coach as there is in college football but there are times when he got frustrated with Philippe They Franks because he he would make a play that would make you go while and then he would make another play and he describes your head. Why did you throw that ball? The guy's not it opened on and on so you've got to learn with Philippa. You've got to learn to live with the inconsistency inconsistencies because ause he can give you these huge wonderful athletic place and so if you prepared to take that on Philippi Franks is the guy. That's GONNA help Arkansas win. And they haven't been doing much of that lately now they have. Thanks thanks for calling appreciate it. Let's go to Jack in Saint. Louis Hijack I was going on Tony. How you doing? We're doing great thanks. I'm an almost longhair and went to school out there Thirteen to seventeen. So this one say this. You know When I was there we're on top of the world? And they were. I was there for Game Day Against Alabama. y'All when we went to Tuscaloosa we beat them. LSU You name it. We were beaten everybody else. Everyone man over at Oklahoma state in the sugar bowl you now so Just won't sash real quick. You know hats off to Keith Carter. Ad For finally going out and getting somebody. Unlike you know Ole Miss Usually does what we're known for and getting somebody at old miss is he didn't care about that one out. Got Somebody goods can make a difference and you can already see the difference that he's making so I don't know if you're familiar with the staff. He's already put together. But in my opinion I mean it's got Bob Staff Nationally. It's an elite staff and apparently we may be getting Rodney Garner from Auburn and he put that gets the top top three four staff nation. No doubt well if if that were to happen that was shake the world. Let's let's just put it that way you're on Rodney's got guys you know or remember it could happen. And I'm hearing Freddie Freddie Roach might go to Alabama. So but here's here's my question to you so you got you got that staff He's gotten it got lane kiffin. These offense mindset I mean what what is your what would you and I don't know if you're familiar with the schedule that we got ahead of us when it's a it's a brutal title schedule I'd say we probably have one of tough schedule going. We got Baylor in. Houston we got Auburn. LSU Alabama Vanderbilt Florida back to back to back brutal schedule if if KIP and makes it out. Here's my question. kipling makes it out of that season going seventy seven six or seven. At least I mean that is. That's absurd so if he goes seven seven what what do you think the next year. What do you think year three year? Four like why Kim when we talk an sec championship stuff national championship. Where where would you see almost staff and how would you see them perform in years? Well I first of all it comes with the staff. What what the reputation is can they? Can they do it. Can they recruit at that level. Remember those teams names that you remember that have beaten Alabama two years in a row they had difference makers okay treadwell and all those guys they. They were elite players. That could play anywhere in America and he was able to bring those guys in. So that's number one. You've gotta recruit that level of athlete. You know you don't have to have thirty of them but you've you've got to have guys who will make a difference so that that's number one number two guys I don't we have the schedule and not if we do. Schedules throw it up there. You have really well. I know but every everybody in this league last year it was Auburn's in Texas. ADM's and South Carolina's turn in the opera. So this this year is it's probably going to be a there's a scheduling opening with Baylor. Okay are you kidding Baylor and Auburn. LSU In Alabama. In the first. I five game this. And then you get to play Alabama and then you get to play Flor then you gotta go on the road to Texas. Am Arkansas back to back. So yeah you gotta gotTa quarterback like Johnny is the fastest guy in the SEC. Lane Kiffin is probably chomping at the bit that guy so I mean it. It's a it's a possibility if the oldest o six six eight seven seven next year. I'm telling you better watch out. 'cause homeless gummed. Well it's to me it's GonNa be fascinating to see what Lane Kiffin Kiffin does with John. Rice plumbly okay. He's not the he's not the best passer in the world but he's there's nobody that can match him in speed so does he. Does he use him does he. Use Matt Corral L. as well because Matt corral throws it a little bit better so what Lane Kiffin finally does from an offensive philosophy standpoint is going to be fascinating right. I appreciate second McCall all right thanks for calling appreciate it. Let's go to Sam in Maryland. I Sam Hey Tony how you doing. I'm doing great thanks. I got one of just want to ask you a quick question. What can gamecocks do this year to help boost season a little bit well forcible first of all they don't they don't have to play that ridiculous schedule? That's the number one. You sit there and look at their schedule. Last year is mm-hmm tone ridiculous. Totally right number one in the country last year schedule so but they did beat Georgia. which was you know let? Let's start. Yeah little glimmers of brightness but not another star with the offense the offense was woefully inconsistent rested. Linski has the talent to be an elite quarterback. But he's got to be put in the writes. This got to be put into the right system and all that thing and with Mike Bobo coming in his offensive coordinator Bobo put up as an office coordinator put up incredible numbers his last three or four years with Mark Rick. So the guy knows offense. He knows how to develop quarterbacks look at his track record so I think the offense is going to be significantly. Better defense improved last year. So I think that but the problem is is that Florida and Georgia and Tennessee and all those folks are still giving scholarships to and you've got some ground to make up there there but I don't think there's any question that South Carolina's GonNa be better now. What is better? Look like in the one loss record. That's what we don't know quite yeah I don't I don't I don't I don't see us Win More than seven games but I I would like to thank would But we we do. Have some shift became. He's but that's never gimme in South Carolina. Unfortunately unfortunately and Georgia learned that too. I mean that was lesson learned to their no Kim East in. SCC At all no doubt no doubt. Nobody's giving nobody's giving anything away and they're the big three hundred pounders to maybe that first but anyway thank you bill answering that question for me One last question what do you think about much camp be honest. He he's got he's got to have a better season last year. They he felt like going into the year. This was his best team his best athletes and for them to finish the way they did was totally unacceptable so he knows he knows a big year for him and he's made the changes he helped will work. But this there's no way to sugarcoat it. It's a big is a big year fan. Thanksgiving put appreciate it. Don I appreciate it. Let's wrap up this segment with Gregg in Athens high. Greg they only thank you for taking my call. Sure I wanted to talk permitted about expansion and one of the things when people talk about equity That they're talking about the outcome and not the input and yeah when you have schools that are putting forty million dollars. A year into their football programs versus some putting fifteen to twenty that is an equitable. So why would you reward those schools. Who aren't doing everything other schools are doing before you expand and secondly NASCAR expanded its reach to reach more people? And that's what expansion football's about it's not about to get to the two best teams teams because we already have that so before we make the rush to do this. Let's think carefully because NASCAR has ruined itself. No there's there's this and and you've got you've got to be careful about warren down the product and nobody's you nobody's talking about recruiting and all that kind of stuff and I. I've just told my friends I said I know you wanna go to eight. But I'm telling you you gotTA prove to me that it's going to be better and I could be convinced I just haven't been convinced yet that it would be bad. Either I mean we've had of the twelve semifinal games I think there's been through that we're competitive and and you know. Oklahoma has been a joke joke as a four seed the last few years in. So why are we gonNA put an eight C team in there and it became the fodder for these well teams James. I don't think it's going to happen until the end of this current contract and this car contrast got six more years ago. So we'll see. Hey Greg I gotta run. Thanks for calling folks. We'll be back. We'll be back in. Just it's a little bit. We're going to take a break here. Pat Dooley from the Gainesville Sun will join us. And we'll talk about those Florida gators. This is Tony Bar Nar sedan for Paul. We'll be right back. Hugh listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast and welcome back. We're here to take your calls until seven o'clock at eight five five two four to seven to eight five Tony Bernhardt sitting in for Paul Feinban and let let the records show this January twenty one. But we're GONNA talk. We're GonNa Talk Pat Dooley and just a little while. But let's let's talk call before we get to Pat. Let's go to Cat Daddy. Daddy Tony Barnhart. How are you sir? Only how you doing today. I am doing great. We'll be here. I got something to funny and I just I just WANNA related do the football but basketball but my wife called me is blizzard store south new and she said honey. I want to go down to the courthouse and register. I didn't vote for president so VELVEETA. Allocate about nothing about no politician. You know why why now all all of a sudden as you wanna go ready to the vote on president. She said well they got nothing politics on my soap operas today and okay. WHO's responsible for can't what's interesting about this? I talked to somebody before I came on the air and we talked to say I said my my mom is not going to be happy because you take her stores and she ain't happy at all. All you ride a bike that I said well honey I gotta tell you. The Democrats have featured the president. Who is the president of the Democrat and I'm voting for trump donald code out all right? I can't can't daddy I got to scoot. I've got Pat Dooley on the other line to bring in here. Thanks for calling. I appreciate it. Bill Gates you there you go there you go and we bring on the aforementioned duly Larry there he is right. They're follow with jokes. And that was that was that was cat daddy there and now he wanted to say go gators. I'm very familiar with cat. Daddy Camila fight to keep it going this is vegas you know. Absolutely I Pat Dooley of the Gainesville Sun. Good longtime friend Pat. Let the record could show that. This is January twenty first and college. Football season's been over a little bit more than a week and today in today's show we. We had our fair share of Florida and Georgia fans. Who cannot wait to get to Jacksonville? Can to get to Jacksonville but these folks apparently the game. The gators are feeling good about life right now I think yeah you know they are. I think that the funny thing is Tony is right after the game the Orange Bowl Oh gain. There was a little bit of negative negatively out there because they thought they should've blown Virginia out. How much explain that? It's a bowl game. They had a chip on their shoulder. You know Florida Florida's and control the game pretty much didn't matter people were a little upset but once that kind of scabbed up up you know everybody was has been all. In of course Florida getting several commitments transfers recruits bad their class. So they feel like the talent gap is finally closing It may not be that much closer than it is. 'cause Georgia's still got the number of of You know five stars if you believe in the five stars versus four stars the interesting thing. Tony is the not on. Mullen is no Pfizer. Five stars I and Nelson. They've got four five stores. Two of them got declared five-star today. I didn't know they played a game. And then now of course they got Lindgaard for Miami. who was a five story? Brick Front Cox who was a fighter so they actually have four or five stars rocker. Well there you go there you go I I gotta ask you about your reaction to sleep. Frank's going Arkansas. You know it's interesting. We brought it up on our show down here and It was literally all anybody. Talk about The kind of the legacy I was on with Chris. HOLLERS PAT Bradley earlier. Pat Bradley asked me what is what is the Arkansas fans can. What can they expect and I said a love hate relationship? It's it's coming. I mean he's GonNa do things that make Q- It's like you know you want you want to date him but after a while you get mad. You can't eat them anymore and then you go back to them you know. I mean he that kind of quarterback back these he's he's very polarizing when he was here not from his so much from his actions but a little bit from his actions. You know telling the crowd to shut up you know and it's Home Stadium. You know going into the crown and Miami when they were still ball the play and then he's filling a pick and that kind of turned people also there are things like that and You know is more on the field just some bad decisions he made and then some unbelievable plays anyway. He was kind of a you know kind of it was Kinda love or hate but it was. It was definitely vote. Well I tell somebody earlier that you with Philippe a he's GonNa do great things but you gotta live live with with the plays it make scratch here if you if you're prepared to live with that he's going to do some he's GonNa do some great things for absolute. Listen speaking of quarterbacks cal. Trask obviously had a phenomenal year. After he took over after the injury to Philippa my question is they spot played emory Jones in used him in some case situations. What seems to be the dynamic between those two guys pretty much the same you think Amory Joan gets Imma Jones gets more looks are more snap Absa? What's the early indication how that's GonNa work? Well I think you're GONNA see him. Get more snaps because with Kyle traff skin there That quarterback run is a surprise element. Only it's not part of the offense when emory then there it becomes for the offense and that's the offense they really want to run but obviously with Kyle you know. He's not as good a runner and don't forget he. He had severe injury to his knee against Auburn and came. I'm back from it but you you wonder how much they want him out there. So I think another thing I would think they've gone to emory and said look don't transfer don't go uh somewhere else we're gonNA use you more this year. We're going to let you throw the ball a little bit more. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA be more exotic and I think with their schedule. I think it allows into I think last year you open with Miami. And then you've got that game with Kentucky and Tennessee and it just felt like all year like every game was a huge game and I think this year. It's a little softer schedule. And they'll be able to to maybe use them a little more so I would if I was going to bet on right now both stay healthy. I would say it's going to be more like a you know. Eighty twenty. This year was probably ninety. Three seven but I think I don't I don't know ever get to the League Peabo. Well when you think about it pat me last year I thought was a great year for the gators. Yeah okay they lost the LSU one of the greatest teams we've ever seen and by the way they let it L. Lsu by touchdown in the second half so. That's one lost the other loss to Georgia in Jacksonville by a touchdown on in a game they absolutely cut a one so I think all things considered it pretty good year for the caters. Now I think it was. I think I think Dan did a great job. Don't forget Tony Tony. Because they got killed on the transfer portal last year in on some injuries. They were down to sixty six hour shift plans to the issue though. Oh I didn't like the roster depth issues going into the season. They overcame them for the most part but probably heard him a little bit in those two games this year. I don't think I think that's GonNa be the issue. I think they've done a great job of recruiting. Obviously get more transfers in. They didn't get hurt with the draft They will seniors but not with the juniors then we lost one guy and Henderson. Who's WHO's the law certainly but As you know. Lsu Lost Nine Alabama lost six Florida Lord lost once. That's a that's a plus for Florida so I liked the roster actually better this year than I did last year. So we'll see if they can you know. Execute continued continued. Improvement continued to get better. But Tony the bottom line. Is that offense of lines. GotTa be better. They can't be a you know I. I know people like to talk about them with a playoff team teams. I have to see that offense of line. Perform against good teams for I could ever get to that point all right Pat Dilly Gainesville Sun gator sports dot com. I'm pat thanks for joining us. You take yourself kicked on okay. When we come back we will have Michael Collins our AH candy for ESPN? He's at Torrey Pines. One of the most beautiful places on earth. Please join us after the break. This is Tony Barnhart sitting in for Paula. Fine you're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. All right. We're back in this is going. That'd be a lot of fun because we're going to bring in Michael Collins who is our Keti. ESPN and keeps us on top of things. All were Golf Michael Collins. How are you my friend? And what's going on man. Good to talk to you listening to some. gator talked before I come on because I live in Gainesville Florida coach. Smullen son goes to the same school. My son goes through both them. Playing fifth grade. Basketball and coach mullins. Coaching Basketball Team to man is multitasking. Tasking that is awesome that I know you told me earlier. You are an avowed gator. Hate us so you just. You just can't be public about it anymore. I no you know what I'm not GONNA lie. Man I'm straight up. I was gator hater. Haider root against them hard core but now that coach Mullins is there are like my kid his kid cool and he's a really good dude and he's into golf so I'm like you know what I'm not going to root against Y'all I might. Now we know gator gear might not root for you but I am ruined against you. So that's as good as I got for right now well Michael. I'm incredibly Jealous Alice. Because you are on one of my favorite plots of land owner Earth Torrey Pines and La Hoya California first of all. I know you're gonNA play in the pro-am tomorrow. No that's going to be a lot of fun. What what's the? What's the weather like out there today? So that's the downside. Everyone assumes a San Diego La Hoya California. It's gotta be like eighty five degrees out there. You see wearing long sleeves right. This is a sweater that I'm wearing so every morning we're going to be in the forties. And the I I isn't getting to seventy all week. It's going to be the high and there's GonNa be a couple times when it's only going to be sixty degrees so this is why I tell people yes is beautiful. Yes this La Hoya yes. The sunsets and of course is green is going to look beautiful. But it's not gonNA be. I like wearing shorts all the time and this week I knew bring bring one payer source with me as a problem for me absolutely well the farmers insurance classic out there you know for those of us who are just getting in the swing of things watching golf it probably has escaped some of us. I did not know that tigers going for eighty three the all time number of championships in the professional national golf tour is eighty to set by. Sam snead obviously tiger has tied that. What about is he playing? Well Enough Michael Michael to win number eighty three this week. Okay and the other thing. That's put so much expectations on tiger. Woods you also have to remember this place that you love here. Torrey Pines Tires one eight time Yup once that. US Open on a broken leg and then seven times he won the tournament and was here that also was tiger woods before four back surgeries. Okay since two thousand thirteen was was the last time he won here. He's finished type or eightieth. He's withdrawn. He's missed the cut. He's finished tied for Twenty third and tie for twentieth. Now we'll tell you this tigers coming into this week in really good form. Remember the last two times uh-huh well last three times. He teamed up he wants those. Oh Dan he played pretty good at the hero. Got Himself into position there. Oh yeah the President's Cup three as is the captain. Yeah but the problem for tiger. This week is going to be the temperature like I talk to you about. The thing for tiger is tiger needs warm temperatures to keep his back loose correct so when he's out here in one of these mornings when it's like forty nine fifty degrees. If there's one ten minute wait on a par five. It's going to be a problem for tagger. That being said is still tiger woods. And it's still Tori so he'll find a way to get it around this place I just don't know if this is the spot where he's GonNa get win number number eighty three. If it's not tiger is it. Is it rory a WHO who who is playing well enough coming into the season you think to win out there. We'll see like rory. This is the first time we're going to see him this year. So I'm not GONNA say he's demand and Phil Mickelson is playing. He played last week. But you know feel still working working with a brand new body so I'm not putting anything on field whatsoever I like one of the young guys. I like a guy like Matthew Wolf. I like the Guy I was gonNA say. Column More Cower but the problem is he's playing with tiger and so when you put a guy like that WHO's really good but really young and you pair them with higher for today's normally you try a little bit too hard grind a little too much and then you're out position going into the weekend to try to win so I also love Jon Rahm. They know he's one here before got his first. PGA Tour Win here chipping in on eighteen from behind the green. So it's like John Roms one of of those deals where when he's confident and comfortable spot and he's confident and comfortable here. Man is hard bet against him. There's going to be fun to watch. Listen I know Oh you're a big college football. I Know You Love College football so I'm GonNa ask you this can you. Have you seen anything in your life like like. LSU gave us this year. No no that was I. I you know as as many times as you because I'm in the off all football pro and college so as many times as we talk about some college programs like you know this this team could beat somebody like Cincinnati. Who was the worst team like? LSU Hugh was the closest. I think we've seen to pro football at a college level. I mean there's still not there. It's still not a pro team but that's the closest just we seem to it. I mean isn't Joe Borough is older than one of the NFL quarterback. You WanNa talk about a guy who's the maturity level that you see out of Joe. Borough is the as a golf guy. I compare Joe Borough to Jordan spieth. When Jordan spieth was in high school and college? Everyone was like when this dude hits. The ground is game over and see the same thing for Joe Borough if you give him any kind of offensive line with weapons that are just all right like dad. Dude is gonNA tears things up when he gets into the pros. Yes absolutely well along those same lines because you do follow pro football Lamar Jackson I. I don't know we've ever seen a guy do the kind of things and live to tell about it. That Lamar Jackson has done. What do you think about the kind of season he had? I'm nervous for him because as we know sometimes when you do special things on the football field the following year you try to do even more special things things and that's what some bad things can happen. But I think when it comes to him like as long as he keeps doing exactly what he did this year here which is a little bit of everything but a little bit of everything awesomely. Mass Sky is the limit. And let's be honest like did you see them. Losing in I I mean Tennessee had a very very special year. And it took something really special in Derrick Derrick Henry to go ahead and beat Baltimore. Do I see them doing it next year. No no no next year I. I'm praying that we get the Baltimore more. Kansas City matchup that. I'm pretty sure everyone except those in Tennessee. Were hoping is here so yeah. It's going to be the Mars. The special special do but you know you talk about Lamar Patrick homes. You're not GonNa Take Patrick homes on your team if you draft in starting like okay. I love the the fact that Lamar now. He's still loves looking at people on going. Be Like you know I'm running back. I do all right you know I do. I Do Co. for running back like you know what well keep that chip on your shoulder I frigging loving and us. Oh forget Michael Collins does hit the media and the caddy podcast with our good friend Matt Berry Microcosm it's been a real tree. Thanks checking in with us. Yeah man and I'm one hundred percent which you when it comes. Jack Nicklaus his eightieth birthday. Our first podcast casts Mattie and the caddy had Jack Nicklaus as a guest. We had so much fun on that podcast and then after we were done recording Jack Hell core for another forty. 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Mr. Dugan Doesn't Go To Washington

The Industry

24:04 min | 2 years ago

Mr. Dugan Doesn't Go To Washington

"When it comes to television in the nineteen seventies, there was no series creator or producer more prolific than Norman Lear. That decade. He was involved with fourteen different shows that made it on air during the nineteen seventy five seventy six season. Six of his shows were in the top thirty with three of them in the top ten. Generally he made sitcoms that had a tendency to be controversial that dealt with race and other social issues. But in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine, he made a series that generated so much anger. He had to pull it before it ever made it on air. My name is Dan Delgado and today we're taking a look at the brief history of the series Mr. Dugan. Welcome to the industry. The beginning of Mr. Dugan starts with the end of different Norman Lear TV series. Maude in case you weren't familiar. Maude start be Arthur is Maude Findlay a very loud, very sarcastic. Very opinionated. Very liberal middle aged woman. Ward was a sort of counterbalance to Lear's. Most famous creation of Archie bunker on all in the family. During the final season of Maud Lear had an idea on how to end the series and potentially keep it going at the same time. What would get appointed to congress to finish out the term of a congresswoman who had died, she would move away from our house in Connecticut and spend the seventh and potential final season in Washington. The seven season would have a whole new supporting cast with Bill Macy who played Maud husband, Walter being the only other series regular to make the move the Arthur liked this idea. So either Maude would end with her going to congress. There's your last episode or if they wanted, they would spend one more outrageous season with Maude in Washington, taking on her inherited staff and anyone else who dare to disagree with her. Lear took the last three episodes of the sixth season of Maud to set this up. He brought in actors, Dennis Berkeley, Barbara roads, and Nedra vol's to play Maude congressional staffers in these final episodes, which mainly served to set up the seven season in Washington. But sometime after the sixties and ended be our there decided that she had had enough of Maude and wanted to move on. There would be no seven season, but CBS still like the idea of this person in congress, butting heads with their staff and Lear in his company decided to rework it. A few months later, a new series had been announced called onward and upward starring John Amos, never mind that Norman Lear had fired Johnny miss from the TV series. Good times a few years earlier on were upward would be about a former professional football player who gets appointed to congress, finish out a term after congressman suddenly dies and the new congressman played by John. Amos would end up butting heads with his new congressional staff playing those staffers for outward and upward were Dennis Berkeley proper roads and Notre vol's. If it sounds familiar. In fact, the script Eliza -posedly the exact same one used for be Arthur, just what the name change. The pilot for onward and upward is shot and picked up by CBS as a mid season replacement. They even have a nice time slot on Sunday night between all in the family number nine in the ratings that year and Alice number thirteen. In the ratings that year, John aim is suddenly eggs. The show citing the show business. Favorite reason for exiting show creative differences, although series co, creator around producer, Charlie, how looked at it a little differently, Keisha creative differences. Matter of fact, how actually wrote a book co, creative differences talked a little bit about. I think he said something like John, Amos thought he was creative and the producers desert or something like that. That is what you're right books on various aspects of the history, particularly those aspects are all that. Well, now perhaps if I wrote about more popular shows, I was born the Tribune's Gary d reported that Amos was dissatisfied with the program story lines and deeply disturbed by the emphasis on hard jokes instead of more realistic humor. A number of actors were considered to replace John Amos, but it's not easy producers start to consider white and his. Spanich actors for the part. Eventually, though on February fourteenth actor, Cleveland little ends up getting the job somewhere along the way. The tidal onward and upward was changed to mister Dooley. I don't know what causes chains, but it did provide for an unintentional great moment on the game show match game seventy nine, cast number Barbara rose was one of the stars. You needed to match that week and on Monday, she was announced by Johnny Olson like this. But by Wednesday it had changed to this. And you can't go on that game started changing things expected to go unnoticed. Certainly not with gene Rayburn running things. What is Johnny bench saying about your show? What is your new show call on what enough work? Johnny's been saying on more an upward, but we changed it and but. Well, it's called mister Dooley Mr. Dooley. Mr. Dooley deal l. e. y. well, the producer wanted to call it gone with the wind, but he said that was taken over. Oh. You don't play Mr. Dooley now. No, hardly be fucked. You make note of that. Change it to Mr. Dooley tank, yes, I'll tell you it's totally my fault. I hope that's going to be on our network is it's right here on CBS Sunday night eight thirty bright after all in the family. Wonderful. While all the talk talkie. Great. And anytime I have a reason to use clubs from match game warms my heart. It doesn't really last very long as title. Because as it turns out Mr. Dooley is the copyrighted name of a character that appeared in newspapers around the turn of the century saw when an effort to save time. Mr. duly became Mr. Dugan the show started production to meet. It's more eleventh premier date. And after getting three episodes in the can hold a special screening of Mr. Dugan for members of the Congressional Black caucus. This couldn't have gone any worse. Every member of the caucus. All of them hated Mr.. Dugan, Maryland Representative parent Mitchell, declared it stinks and walked out of the screening Representative William Gray. The third took personal offense at the show. Gray himself was a former football player, turned congressman and feared that people might think Mr. Dugan was based on him after the screaming. He said, the impact would be disastrous. Showing a congressman who was a silly incompetent. Man ruled by his staff. Normally responded to this criticism from the caucus by saying the show could be changed over time. But nothing was going to smooth this over caucus. Chairwoman cardis Collins said, I feel that it's black representatives. We could not afford to come off looking like buffoons all over the United States that change ten weeks later would be way too late and that sealed the fate of Mr. Dugan just days before it was the debut on March eleventh nineteen seventy nine despite running ads for it on television and having completed already three episodes with a fourth on the way and with a price tag of around a million dollars already spent Norman Lear himself pulled the plug on Mr. Dugan. It was literally only a few days before it was today byu and CBS still wanted the show, but Norman Lear refused to give it to them even went so far as to hide the tapes to make sure that Mr. Dugan didn't wind up on air. He literally had the videotape so they couldn't be aired because it really was exceptional. You know, usually producers want their series. Again, the networks and Mr. Lear was the opposite with gnarly, Mr. Dugan. But another series a couple of years earlier, I think was the you're the top that he actually pulled from the air retool. And you would think for a TV producer that hiding TV series that you are obligated to give to a network that you made a deal to have it on the air would be a bad thing. Right. Well, remember at the time and this was like in the seventies, he was like the number one producer particularly on CBS, and so given all the hits the had was on and on the family, and I don't think CBS would protest as much as they might have in the case of another producer, Alan horn, the president of Lear's company, tat communications stated to the press that it wasn't the caucus alone that led to this decision, but that the screening had confirmed something about the show that they had already. Already suspected themselves horn told the press. We don't respond to pressure, but we agreed with the viewers that the content and the character just in play series producer, Charlie, how cited through Vom little performance as one of the issues actually volunteering that bit in the book. I think Cleveland little not really being comfortable acting in a three camera comedy, and he thought maybe that was one of the reasons that it didn't go over well with the preview audiences because he had trouble remembering his lines, which kinda surprised me because Cleveland little had been on Broadway. Now for his part, Cleveland little was not happy. And let's talk about Cleveland little for a minute. He was born in nineteen thirty nine in Oklahoma and died way too young from colon cancer at the age of fifty three. He was raised in California, graduated high school in nineteen fifty seven year end a bachelor's degree in dramatic arts at San Diego State university. After that, he received a full scholarship to graduate school at Juilliard after finishing at Juilliard. He also trained the American Academy of dramatic arts. He starts out off Broadway for a few years in the nineteen sixties before making it on Broadway in nineteen sixty eight to get the supporting role in Jimmy shine a place during Dustin Hoffman by nineteen seventy. He's in the musical pearly where he gets rave reviews as the lead character pearly victorious, Judson. And then just a few months later. Now, the three gentlemen out there waiting to see which one of them will up the stairs. The nominees. Vince actors in the musical are Len Perreault in applause, Cleveland little in early and Robert reedy and cry. A little. Yvonne Whittal wins the Tony for best performance by lead actor in the music. He goes from Broadway to Hollywood, getting a few supporting roles, movies like cotton comes to Harlem vanishing point, but in nineteen seventy seventy-two leave on little finds himself starring on a sitcom on ABC playing a doctor on a series called temperatures. Rising regulated hospital routine of temperatures rising. There. I think I love you. Who is their brand new love you. Maure spoken for James Whitmore Cleveland on little temperature's rising. The first season of temperatures rising does okay in the ratings, it's up against modern CBS which cannot be, but it does manage to beat out the aging series over on NBC bonanza finishing at number twenty nine in the ratings. It should get a second season and that's no small feat when you take into consideration that some ABC affiliates in the south and mid west refused to air the series or at a later time because one of the stars of the show happen to be black Moshe shows at finished in the top thirty at the time would get renewed. Now, while temperatures rising did get a second season, it was massively reworked. They brought in Paul Lynn as new lead, reducing Cleveland little springtime and replacing the entire supporting cast. They even gave the show a clever new title to let everyone know about these changes. It was now officially called the new temperatures rise. Show, but as you can already guess this did not improve things. In fact, they made the worse and while temperatures rising with not end up getting third season, it would get Cleveland little noticed for his next big role me while I whip this out. Blazing saddles if pearly made the theater world. Notice Cleveland little and temperatures rising made some television audiences aware of him. After blazing saddles, everyone should have known who Cleveland little was. We now know blazing saddles is a comedy classic, but in nineteen seventy four. It was a phenomenon. It grossed a ridiculous one hundred nineteen million dollars that year making it the top movie at the box office in two thousand eighteen. That would be the equivalent of five hundred eighty six million dollars. So yes, blazing saddles out grossed everything in one thousand nine hundred seventy four. The towering inferno the godfather partout Chinatown young Frankenstein and everything else that year cleave on little should've hit the big time, but three years passed before we got another movie a supporting role in the Richard Pryor racing, comedy, greased lightning. And instead he ended up spending his time doing guest, starring stints on TV shows the Rockford files and the rookies as to why that happened. He didn't really know here. He is in the mid nineteen eighties talking about it film of done. One major role. Those in blazing saddles after that for three years I didn't get off or why this? I don't know. I guess we can conjecture on a lot of things. I have no idea. I mean, I have some ideas and and it's the cliche thing in terms of being black. I don't like to rely on that as being a reason for my not working because once I do that, I should give it up. I should get out of it. It's to defeat us of an attitude. So when Mr. Dugan was pulled in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine Cleveland little had some choice words. He was quoted in jet magazine is saying here was a chance to bring some serious issues to the screen. Using the vehicle of comedy Dugan could have become the strongest black comedy character on television little would go on to say how he had plans to bring in black actors writers and eventually wanted to do some producing himself on the show that he would not have taken the part. If he felt it was going to have a negative impact that's changes were being. Made, but that they never had a chance nineteen seventy nine in total probably wasn't a great year for Cleveland little. Not only did Mr.. Dugan not make it on the air, but another pilot he was in that same year based on the movie uptown. Saturday night did not get picked up. And if that wasn't enough, he also appeared that year in an episode of super train. A couple of weeks after Mr.. Dugan was pulled from the CBS lineup, an article appeared in the Washington Post written by the series co, creator and producer, Charlie hawk detailing, everything that happened from his point of view. Now, everything we're about to tell you comes from that article. It's called the recall of TV's Mr. Dugan and it ran on April first nineteen seventy nine. How explains that when tap communications was considering a wife or Hispanic actor for the role of Mr. Dugan he received a phone call from Derrick Humphries the PR man for the Congressional Black caucus who offered his help in finding the right man for the role. How told Humphries he wasn't sure the character was still going to be black. How then received a call from Bill lane and official of the national association for the advancement of colored people. You know, the NWEA c. p. landed heard about the possibility of Mr. Dugan going from black to white, and he wasn't happy about it. He accused Charlie Hauck of toying with black actors and demanded a black actor be cast. Laying also told this to daily variety. Additionally, lane mentioned that not only would end AA CPI not be happy if a black actor wasn't used, but so with the Congressional Black caucus, this article ran daily variety on February fourteenth. The very same. I'm day leave on little was cast in the role on February twenty. Eighth just two weeks after that. First daily variety article appeared. A new article showed up this one with the cheerful headline of black caucus vows to crush CBS's Mr. Dugan Bill lane of the NWEA CPA and Derek Humphries the PR man for the Congressional Black caucus were ripping Mr. Dugan distress. They call the show trash, and that it was a systematic effort to erode the power of black officials around the country. And if this show should dare to hit the airwaves, the caucus would introduce legislature for government control of television networks, though. I'm not really sure that that would have passed. And if that wasn't enough, the NWC would join the caucus in quote, apt national censure of Mr. Dugan keep in mind that at this point, no one from the Congressional Black caucus or the end of. Fillets EP had even seen Mr. Duga. How says that it was at this point, having not seen the show but publicly condemning it anyway, which may not exactly seem fair was what led to the ill-fated Mr. Dugan screening in Washington DC the caucus invited Norman Lear and Alan horn to common screen the show. Now, Charlie hawk thought this was a terrible idea thinking that since the caucus had already publicly declared it as trash, they weren't likely to change their minds and they didn't. Free episodes of Mr. Dugan that work completed are not available anywhere. No surprise. Courtesy of Richard Irvine's book forgotten laughs, but we do have is the plop synopsis to a couple of the mill person. Episode was called new man in town. It introduces Mr. Dugan Mr. Makhdoom again, a former Heisman Trophy winner who has a successful construction company who gets elected to congress since he's finishing out the term of deceased congressman, he stuck with the staff that's already in place. Staff is led by Sam who has a great description of being a slick talking fast, eating chief of staff is also his high pressure assistant, Maggie and Aretha his biracial, press secretary. This episode plays a bit like Mr Smith goes to Washington in which Mr. Dugan goes in idealistic and after dealing with his difficult new staff. Begins to question his future as a congressman. The second episode was called Matt and Sam go hunting, and that's all we have to make an educated guess on this one. I would say that in this episode, Matt and Sam probably go hunting at some point. The third episode was called Matt's team reunion here. Matt have to attend a reunion for his football team, but he's concerned how he might look a former cheerleader from the team has been calling. The Matt is an interested because well, she's a former cheerleader, but then find out that she has a PHD in psychology. Now he's happy to go with her to the reunion news team is covering his appearance there and on camera standing with that, Mona, the PHD former cheerleader tells them that she works in the field of psychology, and she's a sex therapist. Hilarity ensues, Mona ends up having to make a statement to the press. Letting the world know that that was actually her date and not her patient, and we have one more episode. Now, the previous ones were all written produced filmed and are hiding somewhere in Norman Lear vault. This last one was written but never actually produced. It was called SAM's girlfriend and was about an old girlfriend of Sam, chief of staff returning and freaking him out so much be can't stop eating. And that is the end of Mr. Dugan. But wait. There's one more thing in August of nineteen seventy nine, five months after the disaster of Mr.. Dugan a new series appeared on CBS hanging in was a sitcom about a former football player who becomes president of a university. He ends up butting heads with his inherited staff played by Dennis Berkeley Barbara roads and revolts sounds familiar, right? A couple of the scripts from Mr. Dugan were renamed and recycled the Mr. Dugan episode of SAM's. Girlfriend was now called old girlfriend, for example, and to top it off playing the lead now named Lou Harper. Because quite honestly, nobody wants to be reminded of that. Dugan guy was none other than Bill Macy and Bill Macy is best remembered as Walter Findlay BEA Arthur's husband on Maude. And since there are no clips of hanging in. On YouTube or anywhere else that I could find. I decided I would ask Richard Irvine, what he remembered about the series. Oh, I think I might have I air during the summer and the late seventies. If I recall when I can't recall anything about hanging in was canceled after four episodes. Thank you for listening to the industry. This episode was written edited and hosted by me. Danville got, especially thanks to my guest, Richard Irvine, and my proof listener. Jessica pack. Music in today's show was by Kevin McCloud, audio not IX and Wayne Jones. This show was released on September. Thirtieth two thousand eighteen for international podcast. So rather than pasture you about, I tunes views. I would really love it. If you simply told someone about a podcast, you enjoy it could be any show. It doesn't have to be this one, but it probably should. If you've missed an episode or you'd like to contact the show, you can visit us online at the industry podcast dot com. 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Episode #1357: The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

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Episode #1357: The New Phil Hendrie Show

"Hi, it's Phil Hendrie. Welcome to a new week this. Well, we're we're broadcasting live net casting live here in our Sunday night. We also have of course, this download you're listening to today on Monday. So whoever you are you may be looking at me live. You may be listening to this. You know, you've got to try to explain it Phil I'm never going to give up trying to explain it really that to hell bent on. Don't you? I want people to understand. Yes. That we have a live stream. But we're also. But anyway, I sale of that to say that we've had a great weekend. We had our chat on Friday night. We had our Saturday, cinnamon. We're going to be on the show today. As a matter of fact, having Bob greenback onto explain himself band. You haven't explained that you know, kind of Pukhan everything he wasn't puking MS drooling, we're going to have them. Explain all of that. But anyway, I say that to say we have our little weekend features. And of course, it culminates here with the live stream on Sunday night. And I say all of that to say we would love to have you as a member of our backstage pass family now in the next thirty days. There's going to be new Miami and LA material in our archive. I know that we've been threatening that I know that we have been holding that acts over our heads over our own heads when I say threatening that we're threatening ourselves. We're seeing that we're going to all right, Phil. They get it. Okay. But anyway, so that will be happening. And also, you know, we have our big race day at Santa of the day of the racist. Regio Rodriguez from pedal. Yes. Yes. Yes. Let me just get people up to speed Margaret. Conventionally minimum. I bet he's getting embarrassed reg, kidding pedaling. But he's probably getting bugged with you know, he's he's fine. But we also have other wonderful giveaways in store. Fuse matter of fact, big d and I were out at the Delhi today. We're having ourselves a little bit of lunch and divvying up our L A football club tickets. You're not gonna make people go watch sucker, are you? Well, phil. What do you mean? Phil. I mean, if they want to get to get a flight. Yeah. A flight L A, and you can see of soccer team. Why whatever. So just one of many fantastic and very expensive giveaways that we're going to be doing for you this coming spring on into the summer, and they'll be more on the world famous filigree show, and I'm looking for the cat because she was here moment ago, and she's walking in front of the heater, man. She's trying to get some get away from your hot air and get the good hot air there. She has this breath. Okay. Honey. Oh, she's going to go. Look, she's going to go on her bucks. Not on the floor. She gets in the box. And then she hangs her ask outside the box. So that yes, she's pissing. It's a good thing. We got this little carpet. So what brand does and she's a good little cat? But she she gets into the box. That hangs a rear end on the other side of the box and cramps and pees on your rug. Yes. Beautiful thing which he just did right now. Now, she's covering it up with sandwich. Get no she's actually she's scratching at the carpet to cover the pee on the carpet up with carpeting world-famous, Phil ratio. Famous. Phil Henry show the Pacific go here in southern California general gaming, Sean, I'm Margaret gray. But Dickman, I'm Robert Leonard and welcome the world famous fill every shows the Pacific. I said all of that. Anyway, here's Mr. Henry. Thank you. Well, it bears repeating wealth and world-famous fill every show here from number three, right? From the Pacific go here in southern California. All eyes are on brea. The cat. Who is she uses her box. She gets into the box like a good cat. But then she sold she's hanging outside the box. So she's taking a dump on the carpeting, however, she is technically standing in the box, right? Well, you know, something she's trying she's a little old lady. And she's doing the very best. She she can as we like to say on the program with what she's got. I'm Margaret grey. By the way, Margaret's people. They were probably being facetious. The the elect the way you lock out now with the new with the new what the new lockout where you go up. Oh, oh, yes. I'm Margaret grey. Don't wear it out. Go and fill just position brea us. She's taking a dump. Where did you at brand? What are you looking at Robert well diarrhea because you know, I don't know man, which reminds me when we give her insulin tonight. I gotta give her some steroids. Whatever folks. Anyway, welcome to the show the world famous filling reshow tonight, we have Robert green is going to be joining us because I guess he got some static. Yeah. Robert Greene got static. And well he should for some of the display that he made on the Saturday cinema. Now, let me tell you something we've run diary of nudist three times. That's three times too many as far as I'm concerned. You didn't complain the first time. Yes. I did. I yeah. You're undergoing. Yeah. I enjoyed it Venable anyway. Yeah. Well, so we did run it again. And Robert Greene was the guest commentator, right? You know, we had a couple of comments. So pastor William Rennick. We haven't heard from a long time. Oh my God. Seriously. Yes, he's going to be on tonight to counsel, Bob, and I did call Bob. And I said that the parents he said fine. He's a great admire of his past. Rennick comes from similar circumstances, though, as you know, he's changed his ways pets now as a matter of God one time. Yeah. One time he's all like looking at a nudie cuties and stuff. I didn't mean. Watch. It barter me got speaking of ball on your fist up. I don't like it when he goes the dude he can do. But, you know, something I admire you, you're a wonderful young man, you're hardworking it'd be a shame for you to die before. You're twentieth birthday. I'm Margaret grey. Even on twenty one. Now, I'm going to wait a minute. Wait a minute. So what's we got one on you? All right. Got one on meat and also tonight, folks, Bobby Dooley. Oh for God's sake. You this about Bobby duly? Just got a new tattoo. We're gonna talk about ten twos. Maybe that to the great extent that we might or that we should or whatever. But Bobby got a new tattoo, and Margaret I know you stand you stand against those. Right. Well, I think tattoos are I think they can be stylish. I think they can be grace. I think on the right woman at the right time in our own sweet time in our own sweet way, you know, like the man said and Gandhi Gandhi, where's I want which semi is it not that scene? Let's seen you talking about the warden. What's it got to do with getting tattoos? What's it got to do never mind? Right. So all of that is a head here on the world famous fill and we show this portion of the world famous Phil Emery show. 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And welcome back. Uses world-famous Phil Hendrie show, filling every show dot com. So as I mentioned big we're having lunch yesterday today. If you're watching us live, we were out in you went to Brenston you. Yeah. I didn't want to give it the plug. Why not because people will think that I'm getting free lunches, and I don't fill fill plugs, all kinds. I can assure you, folks, fill plugs, all kinds of things on the show. And no one cares. They don't pay them. Thank you. What if said about fillets integrity that is honesty? That's frankly, the merchants not wanting to pay you because it doesn't do any good, right? So anyway, yeah, we were having lunch. Yes. Yes. Yes. And you divvied up your football club tickets now where is this in L A you've heard of it, right? What a dick it, man. You know where it is. I've met the stadium. The stadium is is the old sports arena or where the old sportsman used to be. It's not the galaxy. So we have to soccer teams in this town folks, it took us. I don't know how long it took us twenty damn years to get to football teams from the ten the last two left the Rams and raiders to now the new two which is the Rams and the chargers Phil dipping his head and trying to keep guests in. Thank you, Margaret for that Phil truth in lending, or whatever it's called truth in lending. Yes. So now, we have two soccer teams to basketball teams two football teams two baseball teams two teams two hockey teams. Now, what don't we have enough of? That's it. No. So anyway, we have these tickets to see the football club in depending upon how things go we'll divvy those up and give them away to some of our BSP's too. So if you're not a backstage pass subscriber forget, it feels to cheap, and I'm kidding around. All right Bobbie Dooley ends Steve duly gonna join us very briefly here later on we have pastor William Rennick. And we haven't heard from the passenger longtime in Robert Greene about his Bob greens appearance on the Saturday cinema. But first body and Steve joining us there at the western states. The western states community said of their Bobby where you guys are working out at the gym, right? Well, steve. Yeah. Steve's working because of the winter tech. It was postponed. Right. Correct bargain outta winter tackler is going to be this coming this coming Kennedy. So this Saturday, but this coming Saturday is what I'm trying to see it's going to be coming up on the Saturday. Yeah. But this Saturday will the set waiting this set. It was less Saturday. Well, yeah. But see this Saturday known. We've never really known and I was somewhere what's playing that. What do you not know? What do you want to know what this Saturday means? Yeah. It means this coming Saturday. All right. I've heard it said this coming Saturday, and then people say next sanity, Mr. anywhere, they say next Saturday. I've always thought back to first of all, but in bud. First of all next Saturday means the phone week. I think that's right. Yeah. What do you mean what it means? Like that this coming Saturday, but next Saturday a week from Harry. Yeah. We've got the same thing. CNN saturday. Thanks, Joe won't beat away at. Yes. It is still our pay. That's explains it good. The the you're going to be doing the Tiki torch of the Tiki doing George. Steve do the Tiki torch dance, Saturdays, not necessarily. Oh, that's weird. But he just wants to some this. Okay, buddy. Anyway, welcome to the program. I wanted to thank you. Hold on. You're gonna do. I'm helping Steve 'cause we want him and get sheets or the Tiki dance dance. He just has Tiki torch. And he approximates, the dancing of the Polynesian people. We were told that the way Steve additionally did it with racist. Because first of all these not pollination, and he was making guttural raking Polynesian sound sounding were. But I didn't know what I was doing. They said it was racist. So we've decided to do is just heavy. To the example. You know, not not trying to pronounce words. It sounds like you're holding back a laugh history. No, I really am. Not guess he is I knew it. But you're not pronouncing words, no, I'm not just going to feed. I don't know. How to explain it? We don't know how to play in it. You know, that would be a tough one displaying by Bobby. Thank you for that. That's great. So Steve's there in the gym. Hold on shut them. I'm gonna do leg lift here. Here we go again. Nothing nothing at all this show you because I want to get the leg tight. I wanna get them. Right and titan nice for the day night, neck this Saturday night, not the death pattern unite. Yes, good goes. Yeah. Yeah. That so that's great. See would you give the phone of Bobbi darn repented? He was supposed to be thinking. It was going to be a joke. You wanna do it? Right. Okay. Bobby? We gotta get let him do it, right leg. Live. So how'd you like that? Mr. Henry that was really great. I don't understand instead of exerting making it sound like I was exerting energy. And it was painful, I was going. Hey, you don't get it. Get it. Get it. All man. Well, lets me never mind. I get it. Steve is fantastic. Perfunctory isn't he isn't he Margaret know Phyllis being very honest. Well, okay. I it was fantastic. Now, I want to ask Bobby and Steve here you guys body. You have tattoos, right? We've got into a conversation over the weekend about tattoos. I saw some people tweeting about it. How if you don't mind me asking how many tattoos? Do you have? Well, I gotta ask you said. Okay. I have to ask my husband. What do you have to ask your husband when I defer to him on matters having to do with the intimate aspects of by body, you're paying well? Yeah. I got to get to here and there. All right. I mean, if it's embarrassing because I don't have any that are in any places. I have I have a captured duty Mark now to one can I what am I you have a techy. What? Abbadi mark. I've been a beauty beauty bar a beauty more. Okay. What else then I have a tattooed beautiful. Steer on my shoulder. Blade. We have a fear. Cow. No, not a cow fear. Fear. It represents me because I didn't eat fiv. All I see. He's your he's your bulled stud that exactly right. You got market figured it out. That's great. And then I also have the tattoo of the butterfly on my left that I call it the butterfly because it represents being my free spirit. I got that tattoo. Just before Stephen. I got married, and then we got married, and then it was like, okay. Well, that was that's my free spirit. But at least I was free once when you got married, then you've got the bull. I got the bull and Steve got the horn. Good hunting. I'm kidding around. General that is the general right? Yes. It's the general and I have a tattoo of a Vring, which is like a wolf only the female move. If it will Doreen Wolff reading a world, you've never heard of a wound viz. You mean a wolf? Okay. You have a wolverine where I have that on the can I? Can I it's on the inside of my right side, kind of high up, and the reason why put it there is a warning. And I hope I you guys please understand. It's a warning to Steve that he better treat me rice. And it's a warning to Steve it's on the upper part of the inner of how the upper inner left by. Oh. Oh. Well, what's with you guys? No, no. We just want to make sure because it's a significant message to me when I you know, then I go right ever in that area. His I've I level with don't you get it. All right. Yes. We understand when Steve I level with the rain about about to go. About to go. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, there's the wolf I glanced over and I see the wolf and I'm thinking, okay. You better you better get it, right friend or the wolverine is at your door. And we wrote a little song. It just reminds me. Hey, Steve, get it. Right. The world marines at the door. Hey sees get it. Right. You won't get no more every time these these that will hurrying he knows he better dances. Good as than book. Green. Hey, Steve, do it RAI the wolverines at the door pay Steve to it. Right. Don't make me snore. And that's kind of a do you sing that? Excuse me. Nothing a film sneezing. It was a sneeze. Okay. What's your question? So do you sing that when Steve when you guys are intimate? Why are they laughing at us? Mr. Henry for any reason don't swear to almighty God. We're not want to know about this song because it must be significant. You know? Well, what do you mean if Bobby singing that and you are going to be intimate? You must stop and listen, I'll be ready for the boob rain. And that's from Bobby be looking down at me between her I see her between two let me just say this way between get it between two peaks between and she looked at Metz when I see you're starting to sing. Hey, Steve, do it ride the wolverines at the door. He do it you at ri-. Or there won't be no more is that it. Oh, you will get no more. Yes. He's when the wolverines comes around something. Like, I forget. Fantastic. So let's talk about tattoos. Those are the only tattoos. You have got one more. I have a tattoo guerrilla. So I've got the wolverine in the I got a butterfly sphere. And then I have a gorilla that spans. Well. Intimate. See I'm not sure about Bobby talk about it. It's well where is it? Bobby across by it feels from left cheek the right cheek spreads across a guerilla. Yes. Okay. Why there again, he's the? Do it. Right. God damn. What's your trouble? Nothing. Nothing at all. All right. Yeah. I mean, the grill all of these animals will the in the case of the wolverine and the case of the gorilla and the case of the sphere all of them animals are about Steve, right? I'm stan. And the butterfly is about me and the beauty market without me stiff one to sphere animal. Yeah. Five five tattoos. Well, no I wanted to get to that. We have traditionally call it a tattoo, but we also do as Margaret ties, we do the French too. And it's technically called the two two. So I have five to twos. Just like you said the precise it that's just like the I know it's like the guy on the love boat. No that's not love boat. What's called love island or something? Yeah. Love island. But but no, it's not I know it sounds like the guy in love island. It's not love island. It's fantasy Ivan for God's sake. What's your story upset about it? Well, first of all, I don't like never mind. Margaret just put a lid on it. This is Bobby Steve it's their lifestyle their business. Thank you, very much general that is awfully sweet of you to to say in to be considered the tatoo. What what do you mean, the French excuse me? But I I don't speak French. But I'm very familiar and conversant with French. Well, Margaret Silimo. I'm not as much as you. But I feel that. I am enough to say why why wouldn't you call it to to Margaret for the very for the very reason that there is a man. What do you mean? Why don't the French call it a tattoo? You're you're pretty sure. Yes. I've never heard it called to to that sounds stupid. Then again, it sounds like the little man on love island. It's not love island. You mental worth a watch that dwarf stuff. If you don't mind. Could you say mental midget, mental midget that's equally as as offensive. All right. I'm sorry. Just anyway, it's not love Ireland. It's love what is it called? It's called fantasy island. Have you not heard of it? And the little man next to Mr. Rourke is too. That's that being said I have five to to you know, why can't I call Margaret you call them baboon, the book boons, this is where you don't get it. Right. Here we go now with the baboon, Margaret, you're the one that opened up this kettle of fish. What are you talking? I love to pronounce things the proper way yet. But Margaret, I've never heard it called. But Boone be revisions. What do you mean revision? What's that mean going? They're correcting the historical record of making duck the way it is. It may never mind. What it means? Is it but boon? Yes, it's if the animal that swings on the vine, and the the it's called the baboon, you know, what the different from the Tang. It's different from the chimpanzee. Right. You pronounce monkeys funny? You know, something don't you? He's by husband, find the Boone. That's right. If Barbara called at the Boone, I don't know if it works that way, you know, what I don't care if you want to call it a tatoo, that's fine. But it's always going to sound like the little man from Ryan boondoggle felt like the liberal. There's gotta be a TV show where this guy what about the have gun. We'll trip. Yeah. Richard Boone, Richard Boone. That's right. What about Richard baboon, excuse me for one minute. Shit your ass. It was oh horsh Richard Boone. What about the great catcher Ray baboon? And what about the great baseball player bub-bubba n-? And thank you very much general. That's great. So you have these five two twos. You live in large. Are you looking at the category? AM does just turn the heater up for brea, I think it's absolutely delightful. Mr. Henry, and makes you a very endearing soul to be worried about the animal and to do the things for the for the animal. Very nice bizarre injury. Well, yes, of course, it is. I never heard the rest of you complimenting fill that way. You're always saying with with the cat and the cat crap in the box. You never say to Mr. Henry, aren't you? Sweet man. Well, I don't hear you save Margaret. That's true. Thank you. Bobby here. Welcome. Mr. Henry, you're very very welcome. Mr. Henry, what's all this? Ashley, all of a sudden, we were hoping Phil you want something, would you mind? Emceeing, Steve's take it in. All we need you to come out in LA Jomon straight from the whole straight from from a Hawaii here is rob who'll king of the Tiki. What it's the character. He plays. Yeah. The what I do is. I darkened my face a little bit. And you thought you were being racist with the lyrics three about that. They do it all the time on TV shows. No, they don't man, not me more, rob pool. The king of the Tiki from Hawaii. Oh my God. What's wrong with that? You're saying that's race. We got rid of all the racist. Polynesian fake words. And now the guy darkens himself, he use shoe polish. How dare you you're making a like he's trying to be L olefin, you know, who's out wholesome? Got with black face. Oh, you know. It was Al Jolson. That's what know that is racist. And you shouldn't do that. Steve does it every year trying to tell me that every year this guys darkening his face as Rupp who'll no one year was Steve duly? And here's my husband's Steve duly and he had Durkan his face. They went well that does make sense because everybody's home the next day, and he's a different color. One color on Sunday night and another caller on Monday morning. That's almost a song. I've is one color on Sunday night another color Monday morning. Are you trying to steal the thunder? Hey, Steve, get it. Right. The wolverines at the door. Or we don't have to hear his significant. Do that's fine by me. Very nice. Oh, her I'm in the third person. Seriously. Can you do that not if you've got black face on man wearing black face? It's not it's it's like it's a life court of in tan noboby, I will not do it. If he's calling so free pool and wearing that stuff. All right. I'm Steve duly. And I'm I'm my regular color. Okay. I'll you will yet. What do I gotta say that he will get on the phone to wait a minute. Wait a minute. What do I got to say already committed to sell it? You did second that one. You guys are full of crap. Well, you did Phil. I heard you say, okay. But he did say, but. What do you want me to say? All right. I have to rewrite it then because he got a. Yeah. I almost had to agree to here's rob who'll from Hawaii. All right. All you have to say and gentleman. Here's bodybuilding husband, Steve with the Tiki Dench with the Tiki dance. Then we want you to walk over. It's a individual torch that you pick up misery. Okay. Ms turning you pick the torch up, and you go over to the first the divers, Tiki torch and light it. So you can't say and now, ladies and gentlemen, with the Tiki, Dan. Here's bodies has been Steve. And then you walk over and light it that you not to the drummer. Okay. There'll be a drummer their Bill Winston, right? It's Winston that. You not do the drummer and point to him and Joe maestro. Take it away. Yeah. See what I'm saying? That'd be awesome. I wouldn't do that would care if you were paying me to do that. Well, aren't you people really encouraging like bobby's not that I want to hear this again? But. Oh, right. We're we're asking you to do an honor an honorable thing in our honor. We're asking Phil to introduce the Tiki Steve Steve the Tiki Steve dance. Asking you to introduce Tiki doodoo. The Steve Dan introduced Steve to do the Tiki, Dan. Right. And then I got to say on the annoy sanity you go over like the torch point to our drummer brek Winston now a drum kit knowing playing Bongos, he's a native. I guess you're going to be upset because he's in. He's in like face to what he's people anyway. But he talked about blacks just told him to Bobby. I'm not going anywhere near you stupid winter tank-killer, if anybody is wearing shoe polish or darkening themselves anything understand. Okay. So I if I show up and I see anybody with darker skin. I'm walking out. Okay. Phil, I get it. Brit winston. He's got enough of a tan. We'll do you have a tan, Steve what to do with it? You are doing the Tiki, Dan. He'd better get into my sunlamp. All right. So what am I doing you say and now leads gentleman? Here's body has been Steve with the Tiki dance. Then you walk over with a lit torch that I'll hand you and this torch, by the way that you liked the Tiki to you with Bill was lit. We'll be live on Friday night. And we'll be at our annual fashion show that our dinner then are couple mixer, then our junior dance that our junior fish. So it's going to be lit throughout the weekend on death row at the weekends that until Saturday night in which case it's handed off and the timings got to be perfect because it's going to be leaving leave this house where she's doing the junior fashion show. And then it's handed down a line of twelve women. What Bubby what is this? Anyway, don't worry about it. Then you say and now these and bobby's husband Steve with the Tiki, Dan, then you reach out with your right hand, staring straight ahead, and the torch will be in your right hand. I think I'm going to have to rehearse this. It sounds like Phil that are come over and rehearsed. If you want to. Can do on dude on Thursday morning, then you'd never look at the torch, you walk straight ahead with the torch out extended you like the Tiki torch was allowed to look at the torch thin. Yes, you can look at the torch to light the torch. Then you turn to your right? Probably has the quarter. Turn you look at that. Winston you'll point tube and say maestro. Take it away. Okay. And he's on some Bongo drums. He'll be he'll be a little sort of skirt with some bones around his neck what come on Mr. Henry trying to kill the native. He just looks like some dumb European with bones. What is he a witch doctor something like, oh, we can't even be like a native islanders at it though. I guess it's fine. I don't okay, I'll be there. Okay. So even if it's racist, you'll be they're not if it's racist. We'll look at you look. I think I draw the line at black face. But if he's going to be a little brass skirt. That's you know, oh my God. What do you think the guys all we just all y'all? Hey, it sounds like that to me duly, and if you're wearing a grass skirt that's for sure. Oh my God. No it was called for. Thank you very much Bobby and Steve and as far as it be you having five two twos. After the show. Let's go to the zoo at look at the baboons what never mind. Well, you started it. Yeah. You started his dream in the boon. The Boone listen, you chumps baboon is the French pronunciation of what you call the bad. You guys sound like you're like nine hundred yards of an ugly woman. You know that because we don't say baboon we say too. I have to I have five two twos. One of them is. Yes, a world rain. Hey, Steve look. Oh. Bobby dooley? And Steve Dooley's. Yeah. She wanted to get that dig in. She's probably laughing her ass off right now. I'm sure she is. All right. Well, she got in a little bit of it. I'm sorry. We'll be right back. Thank you. Bobby and Steve duly. I'll be there at the winter tackler. What do I gotta do? You gotta say an elis and gentlemen, bobby's husband, Steve with the Tiki dance. And you stick your hand street out. Right. Don't look at the torches handed to you. And you walk over to the Tiki torch and light it then you turn one quarter of the right? You see Brett Winston who's got bones around his neck, and he's a grass skirt and you go maestro taken away. And he starts hitting the bungalow drums. Yeah. Doesn't that? Sound like a marvelous evening of cultural significance. Yeah. And then unsure about hey, Steve look at. Hey, Steve, right. We'll be right back. Look at getting the words. Right. Well, then, hey, Steve get it. Right. The baboons at the door. All right, buddy callback. Oh for Christ's sake. What does she want? Now. I heard that it hang. Walgreens. That's the boon. Ouch. What happened? Zipper world-famous, Phil Emery show. Hi, I'm belvin greed spots. 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You are lucky that you walk the earth today the same soil the same earth that Melvin walks. Melvin 's Lakers star. Welcome back here the world famous fill injury show going to be very interested in this. When we got on the line with us Bob Greene who joined bay on these Saturday cinema. And he's joining us right now. Bob green is joining us right now from his core. He's driving home here this evening from Frazier foods, where he works very very hard. And Bob I firsthand saw how hard you work, but we did have a controversy from the other night. We wanted you to address I hope that tiff. I'm very very happy to address anyone of any controversy. We may have I know the pastor Rennick. Is going to be coming on here. Just a moment to talk with me about that as we'll be just a little bit. I want to talk first of all Bob, we are going to play a clip from the other night from the Saturday cinema. Visit the Saturday cinema. When you saw the nudity. You are reacting. Very vocally. I understand that. And the fact that you guys are making an issue out of that was a subscription feed for your subscribers. That's correct. Yeah. So only a limited number of people heard it, why are you now going to embarrass me? You know, that's very good question because we heard from more than just subscribers apparently had got out what got out that you are selling like you are oh give me a break you'd stick in. Go ahead. It sound people saying is he wack enough. Are you bull? Crapping me. No. I'm that man. What the hell? Do you think we'd have you on? Here's rubber green from. This is what we were talking about. Let's kill all the audio Robert Greene from the other day. This is from the Saturday cinema as they're watching one particular scene. And he is rather vocal looking at this this one young lady jaye, that's his she's married. Parannit will you? Shift wedding anniversary my ass. Oh, man. Clower starring sorry. Sorry. So that one time there were other instances, they were showing Phil what they were showing on the strain was a young lady. I've telling you go she was very beautiful. What what does that being? Did you might have some general? What should be understood? You read me out. I didn't need to rent you out friend, people were calling and complaining, I didn't say word one. Hey, bob. I was watching on Sunday. And I was thinking what's with you. You got your grocery store owner. What about that that that is the biggest point? Hold on. I'll take over from here. Bob. You are the owner of Frazier foods their families that come in there. I said on the on the movie, I sit high above green. I we are family friendly at Frazier foods pleasing gore. Maybe we should have. I don't know. Maybe we should've shouldn't maybe we should have had you on. What had I known that? This was going to be there. The response. I said on the feet. I said, hi, I'm Bob Breen from Frazier foods, and you wanna know something you're going to hear me make some dirty filthy noises. No, you did that say that. I thought I could later on you, didn't you just you? You would say, hey, I don't pay attention. Yeah. That's what I said. Here's another example made a second felt delay with. Here's another example what we're talking about. Bob. Right. That's the blonde. I think that's my girlfriend. She's married. She was buried this is nineteen sixty one she's probably dead now. So that was a very very, you know. Hardly noticeable at home that was very slight Bob, it might have been the hardly noticeable. But you reacting in that manner. I look if what you're saying is true. I I understand what complaints. I didn't think. What you just played me there. I thought was much less much less bad. I thought it was better. Not better thought. It was worse. Yeah. I'm I'm nervous. I'm sorry. I thought it was worse. The way you guys described. It all I did. Was that one little? Yeah. I don't know. I pastor. William rent's gonna join us here from Joel union congregation passed William William bell, California. Pastor you're at the I know you have in your your festival great to talk with you. How you been? I had the record Clara's got a recording. Now, let me say Bob, how're you doing? I I don't think we've ever spoken. Pastor any Bob bring right to meet you. Clad according to me before she and I. I guess we'll before we got married and before I really came full to the word. You were already called to teach. But I don't think was a fleet of visit. Yeah. And and I got forgive me about when I took care out the first time, I took her out. I brought a home and put on put a dirty to move. I'm very nervous. This riddick. Movie on put on a dirty movie. You put up for this date. Get that did I'd after you did not you said, you had an exotic cable film. Do you want to be an exotic travel film? She said, yeah, I thought you knew what I was talking about come on. Is that's the kind of double talk. You gave that young lady. I told you this back was that fully vested in the word. You know? I knew that I won't was cold. All right. The spread the word. But I I didn't know how to be fully vested to be fully, you know, in in the word, I was partially in the Philip. Half-and-half athlete. He was happy and a half out. They were him and a half out. I know, but but enough about me, let's talk about you. Because today, I live a righteous light. And I'm calling a great many people to the spiritual could wave like you out there right now operating out there with no diesel restraint whatsoever. When we did here. Bob. That's not fair. No, decent restraint. You heard me listening to you. You sound exactly. Like me on the night that I had clear out and get something. Wouldn't that was funny? Put it out to me. And I find it heard but still I would feel shame. I'm very proud of you. So it's shame. Then I turn my life around. Because even though I go to work I had the turned around collar. I don't know pastor Rennick had purchased. Oh, he purchased a like a suit, you know, a preacher suit. Yeah. He'd purchased any had joy for union, but he's not really fully committed. So we got the recording right here live with this is exactly how you said. This is be in nineteen eighty nine as I'm watching dirty movies with a beautiful Hewlett. It would be my wife. I blind sided with this. Yeah. Put outta here. And that's all it is. That's the only piece of recording. That's all you have. That's not much at all. Well, I guess that's enough though. Oh, all that saved. And I played that surpassed the reading every so often don't you play to remind me of the sewer, then I was swimming in. And I thought I was an Olympic sized. You hear me? Yes, sir. Talk. And you don't talk. Yes. Why do we understand? All right. I was swimming in a sewer, and I thought I was at a resort. I was swimming in a fetid. Thank thank you. Hopi oh man thousand sewer, and I thought I was swimming in a at the shirt and Belle harbor, man. I thought I was in that big ass pool. They got their, you know, the one that's why I thought I was and I was actually swimming in a sewer Amos oria swimming in someone's toilet until this young lady Clara opened my eyes, and my heart my soul to the funk. And win that what what happened? Then, you know. She told me said, you gotta do this. Gotta do one hundred percent if I may pass, I'm not you. I'm a guy that sells groceries for a living. I know that I know you get a preacher. Saying when you sit and you want that garbage. And I heard you going you, you know. With a one book know what it was always the one blonde redhead doesn't make any difference. When brunette when you're doing that, you lose conscious. You lose track your self that. Exactly, right. You lose your not just self anymore. You're a different man. Your man, who's hell bent, your hell bound. You'll be talking about that song. Bobby doing the Sigli? Hey, Steve, get it. Right. Whatever the hell. So blue Sonko hell hound on my trail. Yeah. I think I get heroic hold on. Uh-huh. Hera home team. Hey. Hel. Hello due to do. Too busy. You got to have a good tar drums. Yeah. I know it's a great blue song. I'm not talking about being at the Fillmore. Western Jay talking about your. I just like to celebrate. But I'm talking about Djabel lasted so. And so Bob you still there. Everything's same. Pastor next time. You know, IRA, you say general, you're not gonna show that movie again. No, we're not going to show that movie again because you know, what it is I'm getting bored with it for starters. We've showed a three times. Oh, you're bored with it. Well, that'd be McGinn. You don't see a board should be sticking by should be. You know, what you give me your kidding? I was gonna say give me your copy on internet archive. All right. Listen pastor. Thank you for. The good words words to the wise. I would say where do I? I think you're great, man. I'm gonna come down to Frazier the shop there because right now, we're having a carnival does, you know? But one of the things I wanna do is. I want to make sure that we go to Frazier foods, we shop for food for us thank food and so forth when we have the joyful union congregation annual trip to the beach, which would be an Orange County. And it'll be a whole lot of black people at Huntington beach. You're gonna love it. Thanks very much. I'll feel it. Wait a minute. Just hold on. Now. See by. Did he do that a purpose did a Rennick? I'm only pulled her all that would freak you people out down there, wouldn't it? Pastor I want, you know, I've got no problem with it. Okay. It's just it's just once county. Anyway, thanks, God bless film. Thank you very much faster Bennett. I think you should have your your picnic down there. Pain in the. You gotta have whatever picking them in Ventura County. How about that? The more the merrier the more the what kind of a race. You know, you can't win with pastor Rennick. And that's a good thing. That's a very good thing. Bob, I guess we gave you a little bit of a taste of. So look at man, I you know, we didn't get a whole lot of complaints. But we got enough. That's fine. I mean, the next time I would love to do and other Saturday cinema just keep that garbage away from if you don't mind, I would be very happy to hear that Bob you requested it though. No. I didn't know. I did that. Yes. You did. You said you hadn't seen diarrhea nudist. And if you were going to be a guest commentator, first of all you asked to be guest commentator now, he's making it worse. Not makes it sounds like. Oh, yeah. Well, can I be on your show? Didn't you I asked if I could I didn't request the movie. No, you didn't. But you said your favorite moments dire. Nudist? So you guys play it again. Look, what did you guys quit rotating the same movie put different movies in there? Hey, phil. We got a new movie every week. This is the only movie we this is the only movie that we the only movie that you've repeated. Yes. All right. Well, I guess we're all done with diary of a nudist. And and by the way, Dr Jefferson Sacramento requested it, he's one of our special BS, they way who is this Dr Jefferson -cremento, he's a guy, you know, he's got some influence. Well, how about me how about why don't we see can I request the movie? No, no, no, no, no. Did you say what AGIP? Yeah. I did. I'm sorry. It was just being I was kidding around. Bob. Thank you. And we're looking forward to talking to you again somewhere down the road. Okay. Somewhere down the road. It's almost like a road apple say somewhere down the road. Bam. We may take out a talent wipe. Yup. See later, Bob. I'm only kidding. That was a very spirited Monday. Sunday night show, your OB L Pacifico in southern California. 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The Diem Experiment (Part Three)

Inward Empire

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The Diem Experiment (Part Three)

"We're going to start this episode with a trip back to the movies. You and I are sitting in an American theater in nineteen fifty six, and we're about to watch the most successful movie of the year. The theater darkens and we fade up not onto the opening scene but a silver theater curtain in front of which stands a microphone. The curtain parts and the Director Cecil B Demille seventy four years old dressed in a black suit walks out to the Mike and speaks straight to the audience. He explains that the movie were about to watch the Ten Commandments with Charlton Heston as Moses is more than just a sword and Sandals Hollywood epic. Ladies and gentlemen. The window. This may seem an unusual procedure speaking to you before the picture begins. But we have an unusual subject. The story of the birth of freedom. The story of Moses as many of you know. The Holy Bible or mets some thirty years of Moses. Life. From the time, he was three months old baby. was found in the bullrushes by by. The daughter of Pharaoh and adopted into the cost of Egypt. Until he learned that he was Hebrew. And Kill the. Egyptian. To. Fill in those missing is we turn to ancient historians such as Filo and Josephus. Filo wrote at the time that Jesus, of Nazareth, walk the. And Josephus wrote some fifty years later and watch the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans. These historians had access to documents long since destroyed. Or perhaps lost like dead. Sea Scrolls. Theme of. This picture. is whether a not to be ruled by God's law? Or whether they ought to be ruled by the whims of a dictator like ramesses. Men The property of the state. Or are they freezed holds under God. This same battle Continues throughout the world today. Our, intention. Was Not to create a story. But to be worthy. Of The divinely inspired story created three thousand years ago. The five books of Moses. Stony takes three hours. Fifty nine minutes to unfold. There will be an intermission. Thank you for your attention. By the time, the ten commandments hit theaters in nineteen fifty, six Americans had grown accustomed to the idea that the country was fighting a perpetual war against global communism. Through conventional war and covert operations, foreign aid and back door diplomacy the US had been fighting an international cold war against it superpower rivals. By the nineteen fifties, Asia was becoming the Cold War's main theater. The US began the decade with a savage three year war on the Korean Peninsula. The CIA had helped overthrow the Iranian government in nineteen fifty three. US aid and personnel propped up governments in Japan, the Philippines Thailand and many others. And of course, as we've seen in the series. The US for Francis War of reconquest in Indochina. Holding the anti-communist line in Asia meant so much to American leaders that time of the battle, of DNB and Fu in nineteen, fifty, four, the Eisenhower. Administration seriously considered airstrikes reason using nuclear weapons to halt the communist advance. This context helps explain Cecil Demille's message at the start of the ten commandments and why nearly four Hour Bible epoch resonated. So strongly with America in nineteen, fifty six. The Cold War was terrifying time of unprecedented challenges but details mills message was simple comforting and affirmed that the fight was good. The battle against Communism wasn't a journey into dark waters on a wooden life boat. It was just a new chapter in an old familiar story of freedom and individualism versus the tyranny of the state. There was just one problem. If. The Cold War really was a fight between freedom and tyranny than the. United. States would need to justify alliances with anti-communist governments that happened to be rather tyrannical themselves. And in this episode, we're going to explore how the regime of no John's Em the first president of the brand new. Republican Vietnam demonstrated the mental gymnastics American. Cold Warriors went through to turn a dictatorship into a beacon of the free world. You're listening to inward empire. A podcast about ideas and reality in American history. For more information about the show, go to inward empire. PODCAST. Dot. WORDPRESS DOT COM. A. Two, big themes defined America's self image in the nineteen fifties. And it's important to understand these to understand what happened in Vietnam. One theme was something called American exceptionalism. Now, all nations have some kind of exceptionalism. It's what defines nation in the first place. What's so special about your group of People The answer to that question could be anything from your food to your fighting skills. American exceptionalism has a long history. Lots of historians and maybe Your High School Textbook, we'll trace it all the way back to New England colonization in the sixteen hundreds. Well by the late nineteen forties and then big time in the nineteen fifties. exceptionalism took on a special meaning. I want to draw on this description from historian Christian. Happy's book American reckoning the Vietnam War and our national identity. And, this book happy suggests that in the post World War Two years exceptionalism had basically become a religion. Quote. The. Fervent faith in American exceptionalism was the nation's most agreed upon religion of the nineteen fifties. It was the central tenet of what was commonly called American identity. At the heart of American exceptionalism was the assumption that the united. States. Was a unique force for good in the world. Although citizens might take pride in their nations armed might or the fact that it had never lost a war. There was also an unquestioned faith that America sought to share its blessings with the world. It was not an imperial aggressor seeking global conquest. It wanted for others only the great gifts enjoyed by Americans themselves freedom of speech freedom of religion and Free Enterprise. It would use its power to protect and advance those freedoms, but never to assert its narrow national interests and never without clear provocation or just 'cause. End Quote. exceptionalism was one big theme of American identity than the second was religious faith. It's hard to overestimate the power of religion in the nineteen fifties. Two thirds of the country belonged to a religious community. And some polls ninety, nine percent said they believed in God. The nineteen, fifty, two revised standard version of the Bible sold twenty, six, million copies. Linking religion to national identity President Eisenhower in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, five speech to the American Legion. said that quote. Without God could be no American form of government. In American way of life. Recognition of the supreme being is the first the most. Expression. Of. Americanism. and quote. It should come as no surprise then that these twin faiths in religion and exceptionalism influenced how Americans saw their role in the world. And in nineteen fifty, six, the same year the Ten Commandments rocked American movie theaters. Another work applied that same thinking to Vietnam. This work was a best selling book written by a young doctor in the US Navy. His name was Tom The cover shows duly handsome and a crisp dress uniform posing with four. Asian. Children one of whom sits on his lap. Above the photo the cover says quote the young American who became a living legend to the world tells how as a navy doctor he helped half a million Vietnamese refugees escape from Communist, terror. and quote. The title is deliver us from evil. Now. This book is almost totally forgotten today. But between its publication and Tom Dooley's death just five years later at the age of thirty four deliver us from became one of America's first windows onto the distant struggle in Vietnam. One historian even calls it the uncle Tom's cabin of the. Cold. War. And what duly did in this book just like Harriet Beecher Stowe did in her denunciation of slavery was to explain a complicated problem in simple terms. Duly told the story of Vietnam, not with a hodgepodge of geopolitics, economics and culture. Instead, he drew on the two most powerful faiths in mid century America. exceptionalism and religion. I'm going to read you a little bit from this book because I think it really puts us in the mindset of people at the time how Americans thought about this far away country. In the first chapter duly arrives back in Hawaii after his deployment in Southeast Asia. At Hickam Field Duly meets his new assistant a young MARTINET. named. Instant pots. Inside pots watches a debriefing in which Julie tells a bunch of top. Navy. Officers that humanitarian aid instead of brute military force is America's best weapon in the Cold War. Afterwards pots is weirdly stiff and hostile to the doctor and duly can't quite figure out why? Finally duly gets fed up. Quote. Pots, I said what the Hell's wrong with you or with me. I think I. Get along with most people fairly well but obviously, you don't like me what's up. May I speak frankly sir he asked Hell. Yes. I said. Then sir. He said allow me to say I'm fed up with you. I'm fed up with your spouting off about a million massive humanity about the orphans of a nation Great Sea of souls and all the rest of that junk. And what I'm most fed up with and Dan mad about is that most of the people you spout seem to believe you. Instant pots stopped a moment to observe my reaction. When he saw I was listening he continued. You Talk of love about how we must not fight. Communist. Lust with hate must not opposed to radical violence with more violence nor communist destruction with atomic war. You preach of love understanding and helpfulness. That's not the navy's job. We've got military responsibilities in this cockeyed world. We've got to perform duties sternly and without sentiment that's what we've been trained for. I don't believe your prescription will work. I believe that the only answer is preventive war. Duly continues. Evidently. He had thought a lot about it. He explained that some two hundred targets in Red Russia Red China and the satellite nations could be bombed simultaneously and that this would destroy the potential communism's production for war. then. A few more weeks of all out war would destroy communist forces already in existence. Sure the toll of American lives would be heavy, but the sacrifice would be justified to rid mankind the communist peril before it grew strong enough to lick us. For that matter maybe it was already too late. Slowly, I was beginning to understand pots. The incident had nothing against me. Personally, he just didn't like what I was preaching he himself had a radically different set of ideas and many Americans. I suppose share his views. I do not. The incident had not yet had his full say. Dr Dooley concluded the oldest picture known to modern man. One of the oldest pieces of art in the world is on the walls of a cave in France. It shows men with bows and arrows engaged in man's customary pastime of killing his fellow man. And this will go on forever. Prayers are for old women they have no power. With this, he fell silent sucked in a deep breath and slumped in his seat. He invented his hostility and was appeased. End Quote. But then as the two men step out of the car into the gentle rain at Hickam field something happens that shifts debate. Duly continues quote. The terminal building at Hickam, is immense. Preoccupied with thoughts of going home I did not hear the first shout, but the second one came through loud and clear. From. The other end of the waiting room someone was yelling Chow Long boxy me which in Vietnamese means high. American. Doctor. I turned around and was enmeshed in a pair of strong young arms that pinioned my own arms to my side. A Vietnamese Air Force Cadet was hugging me tight and blubbering all over my coat. He was a short handsome lad of perhaps sixteen. Squeezing the breath out of my chest he was talking so fast that it was difficult to understand what he said. Suddenly there were about two dozen olive skinned youngsters and Cadet uniforms swarming around me, shaking my hands and pounding on the back as an air hammer pounds the pavement. They were all wearing the uniform of Vietnamese air. Force. And everyone concerned was balling all over the place. Don't you remember me American doctor don't you remember asked the boy who still had me pinioned in his bear? Hug Of, course I do I lied who could remember one face among those hundreds of thousands. But behold the Lai turned into truth and the old familiar gloom came over me. The boy had no left ear. where it should have been, there was only an ugly scar. I had made that scar. I had amputated that ear. I might not remember this particular boy. But I would never forget the many boys and girls of whom he had been one. The ear amputation was there hideous trademark? You're from bow luck I said disentangling myself from his embrace. Pointing to others in the group I added and so are you and you and you? Each of them also had a big scar where an ear should have been. I remembered that in the Roman Catholic province of Bow, lock near the frontier of China the communist Viet men often would tear an ear partially off with a pincer like a pair of pliers and leave the ear dangling. That was one penalty for the crime of listening to evil words. The evil words were the words of the Lord's prayer. Father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name. Give us this day our daily bread. And deliver us from evil. How downright treasonable to ask God for bread instead of applying to the proper communist authorities how criminal to imply that the new Peoples Republic was an evil from which one needed deliverance. and mutilated earwood remind such scoundrels the necessity for. Reeducation. The boy spoke of his escape from North Vietnam in November of nineteen, fifty four when he had come to my camp. All of the Vietnamese youngsters now in the Hawaiian terminal had passed through our camps at Haiphong and many of them bore this trademark. I put them on small French. Or on Sampans, which carried them to American ships to be taken to Saigon. There those who would reach the age of sixteen. We're old enough to join the newly created. Air Force Vietnam. At, sixteen, they were men preparing to regain northern half of their country from the Communists. A fairly large crowd mostly Americans had been attracted by are noisy and tearful reunion. Some people wanted to know what it was all about. This seemed as good a time as any to begin briefing my fellow citizens and I made a speech. I told them about these youngsters and their valor I told them where I had come from and what I had seen, and then I satisfied their curiosity as to why most of these air cadets had only one earpiece. I suspect I did not succeed in keeping the tears out of my voice. Soon many of those who been staring at us and who now understood began to find their vision clouding up just as mindless clouded. Not. In many a year. Had that number of tears hit the deck at Hickam. and. Among those who wept and did not bother to hide it was ensign pots. The same young officer who half an hour before had scoffed at my softness. Mr Potts I commanded pull yourself together sir. He came over grinning through the tears and shook my hand. Mr Pots. I. Said, don't you think these kids would do anything even at the risk of their lives because of the way they feel about one American. In all the honesty of his enthusiastic heart instant pots replied. Yes doctor. I think they would. Perhaps you are right. Perhaps, there is a special power in love. and quote. The blend in that passage of sentimentality atrocities, American mission and the power of Christian love marks the entire book. Dooley's narrative of his time as a doctrine Vietnam is full of starving, suffering, Vietnamese, bearing the horrific marks of communist brutality. And in that mix of horror and sentiment lies Dooley's message about y Vietnam mattered to Americans in the mid fifties. In this narrative the US was there on a Christian mission to save the Helpless Victims of Communist aggression. South Vietnam was the place where the exceptional power of American love would play out. Here's a clip of duly on television explaining that power in greater detail. We think that anybody in America, who if they have a claim on? As doctors you have a claim on us, and if any of you are sick, you have a claim on the man next to you because he is your name. But accordingly. Some Sick and bloated and Richard, and stinking little child high in the foothills of the Himalaya in the village of Moon senior he has claimed on you. He has a claim on me, and so the Child on the banks of the guy down in lemonade in the Belgium Congo that child has a claim on. I've I've examined us. All I've is on the US and the kids and the guy, we the children in Laos and you know we all have heights and lungs and liver since spleens in the same identical position, and we all have the same identical pulse rating. And we've all been built. To the same image. And likeness. Dr Spices sums all this up new statement man belongs to. Man. Man has claims on manner. Dooley's book was massively influential millions of people read it. Deliver us from evil first appeared in a serialized version in digest, which in the mid fifty s wasn't that thing mouldering in stacks on Grandma's shelf. It had over twenty million subscribers the biggest magazine in the world. When the book version of deliver us from evil came out it sold over a million copies. It spawned to seek walls the tomorrow, and the night they burned the mountain which described Dooley's later adventures doctor in Laos. The covers of all three books rift on the same image, the smiling doctor with Asian children on his knee. The themes of Dooley's work obviously resonated with Americans at the time, but just as important was his understanding of the power of the media and applying advertising models to humanitarian work. You sometimes worried that. Approach threatened to tarnish the purity of his image. He explained quote you've got to run it like a business. You've gotta have Madison Avenue Press Relations TV radio. And of course, you get condemned for being a publicity seeker and quote. But the model worked. Americans instantly responded to these message of Christian help and salvation from, COMMUNISM Millions of dollars poured into his organization called Medico which ran clinics from Laos to Afghanistan. As we've seen duly appeared on television going on shows like what's my line and the tonight show with Jack Parr? One poll ranked him as the third most esteemed man in the world number-one was the pope number two was President Eisenhower. Small surprise that is nicknamed became Dr America. It's kind of a superhero name isn't it? He was American exceptionalism and American faith in human form. Here's a question though. Why was the US doing humanitarian work in Vietnam? In. The last couple of episodes we've seen the the US presence was mainly military and economic bankrolling Francis War against the Viet. Minh. So how did the mission go from war to humanitarianism? Now. For this part of the story, we have to turn the clock back a bit. It begins with a few words on a piece of paper signed at Geneva Switzerland in nineteen fifty four. You might remember the Geneva agreement is the one that ended Francis war in Vietnam and temporarily split Vietnam in to. One of the provisions that Geneva gave Vietnamese three hundred days to move between the northern and the southern zones. What this led to was a massive refugee crisis. Lots of people know that South Vietnam ended with a refugee crisis after the communist victory in nineteen seventy, five that one's pretty famous. What's less well-known is that South Vietnam also began with a massive influx of refugees in nineteen, fifty four. About eight hundred thousand people left northern. Vietnam which was controlled by the Communists for the south, which was then ruled by the French collaborator. Bow Die. About half of these refugees were Vietnamese civilians. The rest included retreating French soldiers and colonists, Vietnamese auxiliary troops, and anti-communist Chinese fleeing to Saigon or Taiwan. Vietnamese also moved from the south to the north. Those numbers included tens of thousands of Viet Minh troops who had been fighting the French in a disorganized and bloody southern war. A lot of those Viet Minh soldiers left their southern homes expecting. They would be back in two years when the country was reunified. If they came back at all, it would take a lot longer than that. So, how did all of these fleeing civilians? The South. Some families have the resources to travel by. Many thousands of northern Vietnamese the urban poor end farmers in the countryside a plane ticket was a luxury they couldn't afford. Like the refugees of Nineteen, seventy, five, those of the mid nineteen fifties had to go by boat. There was just one problem. There weren't enough ships to go around. By mid August as many as one hundred and thirty thousand refugees were packed into the northern port city of Haiphong. Many of them were Catholics since the vast majority of Vietnamese Catholics lived in the north before partition. This migration would shift that whole demographic to the south where many would become the most loyal constituents of Catholic prime minister. During the war between France and the Viet Minh. Many northern Catholics had sided with the French and feared reprisals along with losing their freedom of worship under communist government. Entire villages, and in a couple of cases, entire provinces were emptied of people. Up to sixty percent of northern Catholics, left their homes. In Washington. American leaders recognized that the. Presented both crisis and an opportunity. Helping. Vietnamese civilians flee the north was a chance to help a desperate population shore, but it was also a chance for a propaganda who on the world stage. Just a few years earlier during the Berlin airlift American aircraft had defied the Soviets and fed an entire city. Now the US. Had a chance to do something similar in Vietnam. The United States called the project operation passage to freedom. A navy task force worked around the clock to transport hundreds of thousands of refugees from Haiphong in the north to Saigon in the south. Medical teams including one led by Dr Tom. Dooley worked in the city's distributing aid and treating the sick. American officials made sure that reporters from the TV networks and the United Press carefully documented the whole thing. Here's a taste of what US audiences coming. Piece under communism is not for these Vietnamese. Almost one million refugees turn their faces from red rule and flee with only the clothes on their backs. In South Vietnam they helped make miracle come. True. Farmlands are redistributed so that peasants own their land and reap the benefits of their title and year after year starting with nineteen, fifty, four, the rice harvest grows greater and greater. A. Determined hardworking people prosper under freedom while their neighbors to the North Watch with growing envy and apprehension. But this was only half the story behind operation passage to freedom. What the cameras didn't see was that behind the scenes, the US was using other tactics to push as many Vietnamese as possible out of north. If the operation was partly about showing the undesirability of life under communism than the more refugees, the US transported the greater the victory. The private face of passage to freedom belonged to an air force officer on loan to the CIA. His name was Lieutenant Colonel Edward Lansdale. In many ways Lansdale was kind of mirror image to Tom Dooley. They shared a faith in America's ability to save the world, but each relied on very different tactics to spread that belief. Lansdale explained his worldview in his nineteen seventy-two Memoir in the midst of wars quote. I took my American beliefs with me into these Asian struggles as Tom Paine would have done. Ben, Franklin once said we're liberty dwells. country. Tom Paine had replied we're liberty dwells not there is my country. Pains words form cherished part of my Credo. My American beliefs include conviction of the truth in the precept that men are created equal that they are endowed by their creator with certain. Rights in the provision of our bill of rights to make that Greek precept a reality among men. Along with other Americans, I feel a kinship with Thomas Jefferson when he declared I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. These are principles for an American to try to live by wherever he goes even two centuries later. Thus I endeavoured to practice my beliefs among embattled people abroad. and quote. Unquote coming to Vietnam Lansdale was deployed in the Philippines where he helped bring President Ramon Magsaysay to power. Lansdale was so successful at engineering elections in fact that he got the nickname colonel landslide. His tactics in the Philippines ranked among the as weirder poise. Apparently, one tactic was to scare communist guerrillas by draining a dead insurgents body of blood and puncturing its neck twice then putting it in an insurgent village to make it seem like a vampire was preying on communists. There were other things that were more pragmatic though. Lansdale had a background in advertising in like Tom. Dooley here. The power of the media and pop culture in selling political. Projects. Among his more practical tactics were slogans like makes I is my guy put on a big American style campaign button and jingle called the Magsaysay Mambo. Let's have a listen. Demand for. One. Night and. One that is one you will hear. Democracy will. Not even. Lobola. Anti-thai. This lansdale and duly arrived in Vietnam or the same time in nineteen fifty four. The CIA, had already been in the country for some time. The Saigon Station opened in nineteen fifty and formed some of the first ties between the US and the GM regime. The station channel. American. Money to GM's family, as well as its underground political party. The can how. CIA pilots belonging to an agency owned airline called civil air transport even played a secret role in the battle of DNB and Fu flying supplies to the French garrison. To Civil Air Pilots James McGovern. Junior and Wallace Buford became two of the first Americans killed in the country. The same year Lansdale became one of GM's first American advisors. I could honestly do a whole episode just on their relationship which involved everything from advising Ziama on policy to playing cowboys and Indians with GM's nephews in the halls of the presidential palace. But lansdale key role happened during passage to freedom. During the operation Lansdale became the architect of a propaganda campaign run throughout northern Vietnam. The goal was to generate as many refugees as possible and so distrust between the population and the Viet Minh. The propaganda was spread by CIA teams who entered the north on planes operated by Civil Air Transport? During passage to freedom, they flew roundtrips infiltrating CIA teams north, and then looting up with refugees bound for the south. Lot of Lonsdale's. Propaganda. Targeted Catholics. Slogans like Christ has gone south and the Virgin Mary has left the north spread throughout northern communities. One widely distributed posters showed a shuttered church with the image of Christ replaced by a photo of hokey men. Other propaganda played on more visceral fears. Rumors spread the two divisions of Communist. Chinese troops were raping and pillaging their way across Tonkin with Viet Minh permission. The teams posted fake Viet Minh posters telling villagers to make an inventory of their possessions. So the Communists would know exactly what to confiscate. The CIA also tried to spread rumors among southern Vietnamese who were heading north telling them. They were being sent to Soviet labor camps. Most. Frightening of all Lansdale teams spread rumors saying that the US was going to invade north Vietnam and use nuclear bombs if it had to. In deliver us from Evil Tom. Dooley, says, one terrified refugee handed him a poster with a map of Hanoi showing concentric circles of nuclear devastation. Duly, assumed, the poster was communist propaganda, but there's a very good chance that poster had been distributed by one of Lonsdale's. On top of the propaganda towards the end of passage to freedom CIA, teams began sabotaging Vietnamese infrastructure. Operatives blew up the railway between Hanoi and Haiphong and destroyed the engines of buses in Hanoi with contaminated oil. Lucien Coenen. One of Lonsdale's officers even suggested they blow up storage tanks belonging to shell and Standard Oil. Lansdale refused saying quote will need them when we go back. Finally, the CIA bribed the Hanoi chief of police to let arrested operatives, run. Free. Now. In the end, it's hard to tell just how many Vietnamese left the north because of CIA propaganda. Among those half a million or so civilians, they're probably worse on who left because there were terrified of American nukes or the fictional rampages of the Chinese Red Army. It's very likely that while some Vietnamese did leave the north because of American propaganda. There also were hundreds of thousands of people who left of their own free will and for their own reasons. Even Lansdale, the architect of the CIA propaganda campaign admitted this to the journalist Stanley carnell quote. People just don't pull up their roots and transplant themselves because of slogans they honestly feared what might happen to them and the emotion was strong enough to overcome their attachment to their land, their homes in their ancestral graves. So the initiative was very much, there's and we mainly made the transportation possible. and quote. So, if the CIS results in northern Vietnam were mixed, the agency did play a very successful rule in shaping US public opinion. and to tell this part of the story, we have to return to the young celebrity doctor Tom. After passage to freedom duly was active in humanitarian work for the rest of his short life. After he was quietly outed as a homosexual in nineteen, fifty six, the navy forced him to resign. For the public, his sexual identity remained a secret and he was able to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for a new mission in Laos. This was where he earned that nickname Dr America. When JFK I announced his proposal for Peace Corps, a group that would send dedicated young. On humanitarian missions around the world, he drew on the symbolic value of Dooley's service quote. All of us have admired Dr Tom Dooley has done in Laos and quote. In nineteen sixty one at the height of his fame and just one day after his thirty fourth birthday duly died of cancer. For more than a decade, he remained a brilliant star in the Constellation of Catholic celebrities. In the mid nineteen seventies fact in order of priests that had worked with him in Laos began a drive to canonize him as a saint. The task researching and documenting his saintly works fell to a guy named Reverend Maynard caglar who poured through hundreds of documents obtained through the freedom of Information Act. And what keg ler found. Those documents revealed that Dr Julie had more secrets than just his sexuality. It turned out that the CIA is campaign during operation passage to freedom went beyond the propaganda, the rumors and the sabotage. The agency had also influenced Dr America. The doctors, best selling books, his organization, his appearances on TV, and the whole image of the American role in Vietnam that he projected may never have come about without the central. Intelligence Agency. So once again, let's back up. Dooley's connections to the CIA began during passage to freedom during his work in the refugee camps in Haiphong. William Lederer and Navy public affairs officer with ties to both the CIA and Reader's digest as that for a combination cultivated duly as an informant. Letter. Also cultivated his celebrity status. It was letter who convinced the Navy to give duly the Legion of Merit. It was Lederer who encouraged duly to write deliver us from evil and when Viking press rejected the first draft. It was again letter who used his connections that Reader's Digest to get the book published. While the CIA didn't commission or fund the book, its publication, and it's massive impact on American views of Vietnam came in large part from the agencies work behind the scenes. But. Dooley's ties to the agency didn't end with the book. In Laos Dooley's hospital doubled as an intelligence outpost. As he treated Laotian villagers, he also passed along information about communist movements and local sentiment to the agency. The crazy thing is that the revelations about duly about Dr America didn't end there. Other revelations about the falsehoods surrounding passage to freedom emerged in the nineteen eighties and nineties. In the late eighties, the US government declassified a report filed all the way back in nineteen, fifty six. The report was filed by US personnel involved in the operation, and they had filed it in protest against Dooley's portrayal of Viet Minh atrocities. Brutal crimes like the chopsticks driven into children's ears were either exaggerated or totally made up. In a nineteen ninety one interview with journalists, Diana Shaw William Lederer, the officer who helped push Julian to the spotlight admitted that quote those things never happened the atrocities he described in his books either never took place or were committed by the French. I traveled all over the country and never saw anything like them. and quote. Norman Baker a Navy Corman who served under duly in Haiphong confirmed that he never saw anything like what to described quote. If, I'd found a priest hanging by his heels with nails hammered in its head. I'd have the whole camp hearing about it. If those atrocities had occurred, human nature would make you talk about it at the time. And Quote Now needless to say revelations like these destroyed more than Dooley's shot at sainthood. They. Also shattered his reputation, his standing in history. The overshadowed the positive impact is work had on the lives of thousands of people in Southeast Asia. Dooley's image of what was happening in places like Vietnam and Laos was so stark. So black and white good and evil that when the truth came out many Americans rejected Dooley's memory entirely. Preferring to paint him as a liar and villain. Seemed almost like the whole story of America in Vietnam in miniature. Men like duly, Lansdale and letter were all helping to hammer out this new story about American Vietnam that was being written in the mid fifties. They helped craft half of that story the half about passage to freedom and saving the Vietnamese. More we're going to do now is look at the other half. And, this half focused on the man top the president of the New South East Asian republic our old friend no Dinh's EM. Jim Story had many Willing Co. Writers. Because of the three years he had spent in the US from nineteen, fifty, two, fifty, three he already had a powerful network of supporters sown throughout Congress, the State Department, the Catholic Church and the press. In nineteen, fifty, five, his supporters formed. Group called the American Friends of Vietnam. Historian Seth Jacobs explains just how powerful and well placed GM's friends really were quote. It would have been difficult to find a more popular 'cause mid nineteen fifties America than saving an Asian nation from. Communism, and the AFC attracted a large membership including. Democratic senators. Mike Mansfield and JFK Republican. Senators William Nolan Carl Months Liberal Academics Samuel Eliot Morison Arthur Schlesinger junior celebrity Saint Tom Dooley and even Norman Thomas President of the American Socialist Party. Of greatest value to them however were the ministers if Information Whitelaw Reid editor and publisher of the New York Herald Tribune. Malcolm we're publisher of Newsweek Walter Annenberg head of the Philadelphia Inquirer. William Randolph Hurst Junior of the New York Journal. American. And foremost among Titans Time Inks Henry Loose With such media giants in its ranks, the AFC was able to produce a tremendous amount of pro damn propaganda in US newspapers and magazines and ensure that the drawbacks of the regime received little scrutiny from the American press. End Quote The. American friends of Vietnam were deeply patriotic and anticommunist and fully embraced the domino theory. In June. Nineteen fifty-six speech at the Hotel Willard and Washington AFE member John Fitzgerald Kennedy explained that Vietnam was important beyond the region Not only was it the key to America's security that was the key to the entire global order quote. Vietnam represents the cornerstone of the free world and Southeast Asia the keystone to the arch, the finger in the dike. Burma Thailand India Japan, the Philippines and obviously Laos and Cambodia are among those who security would be threatened if the red tide of communism overflowed into. Vietnam. The fundamental tenets of this nation's foreign policy in short depend in considerable measure upon a strong and Free Vietnamese nation. and quote. But JFK explained that Vietnam was about more than just security. With north Vietnam lost communism the south under GM was now the region's last bastion of democracy he continued quote. Vietnam represents a proving ground of democracy in Asia, it represents the alternative to communist dictatorship. If this democratic experiment fails if some one million refugees have fled the totalitarianism of north only to find neither freedom nor security in the south then weakness, not strength will characterize the meaning of democracy in the minds of still more Asians. The United States is directly responsible for this experiment it is playing an important role in the laboratory where it is being conducted. We. CanNot Afford to, permit that experiment to fail. and quote. As the speech makes clear. There were two things that mattered in this image of Vietnam. Freedom and strength. In. Practical terms it was not enough for free Vietnam to just be free it also needed in iron strong leader to defend it. While us. Officials derided GM's political skills in private in public. The AFC said, he was a political genius a miracle man as the phrase went whose ruling style was defined by strength. In Nineteen Fifty, seven life magazine owned by AFE member Henry loose ran a piece called the tough Miracle Man Vietnam DM's strength and skill were major themes quote. GM's respected in Vietnam today for the miracles he is wrought. Order has replaced chaos. Communism is being defeated. To a world daunted by the idea that circumstances are bigger than men. One man with a purpose is demonstrating what he calls the power of human personality. and quote. A piece in the Saturday evening post called the bright spot. In Asia, said, quote two years ago at Geneva South Vietnam was virtually sold down the river to the Communists today. The spunky little Asian country is back on its feet. Thanks to a mandarin in shark skin suit was upsetting the red timetable end quote. Gems reputation in the US hit its peak in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven when he toured the nation. Let's have a listen to a couple of newsreels from the time. Here's a rival in Washington. Tonight how our wait said Washington National Airport when the arrival of Wayne Columbine the third with annihilate Bryant Visitor President, the end of South Vietnam. Em is only the second visitor. The president has gone to meet on a rival game was the pert. The President personally escorts WTN AMIS leader on the traditional review of the honor guard. The red carpet extends all the way to the heart of the capital official. Washington. Highly regarded this able anti communist leader who brought his country out of near chaos. Unofficially Washington, stands on the sidelines to give it greedy. Cavalcade ends at Blair House where President Vm will stay for his four-day visit in Washington. I perfect host Mr. Eisenhower companies his guests to the doorstep then extend the open end of welcome and friendship. and. Here's a clip of his time in new. York. Got A ticker tape parade with one hundred, thousand New Yorkers turned out four and five deep on Broadway. Services head the parade up Broadway as New York City gives a traditional hero's welcome to Vietnamese President Yeah. A warm and cordial greeting or President Seattle Democratic. Leader of eleven million South Vietnam. That City Hall. The visiting fifty-six-year-old statesman brought a stable government to the Far East nation and stemmed communist expansion is officially greeted by New York City's Marouane. A salute to a staunch us. fumbled agent. Diem also visited Michigan and if that seems like a weird place to visit you know Washington. DC. New York Michigan. Well, some Ziems most important contacts worked at Michigan State University. Wisely official a young professor. There had been ziems first American contact back in nineteen fifty. In nineteen, fifty, five, the university sent an advisory group to South Vietnam that among other things trained ziems, police force. Men and Williams Governor of Michigan declared may fifteenth to be no dens em day. So for those Michigan listeners out there you have a holiday you probably didn't know about. See if your boss will give you the day off. Anyway professor official joined the campaign to LIONIZE GM to the American public. In nineteen, fifty, nine, he wrote a piece for a magazine called the new leader. The took the themes of freedom and strength to their logical conclusion. It's Orwellian title was Vietnam 's Democratic One man rule. Now we're GONNA spend a little bit of time with this because this piece is really key to understanding how far Americans were willing to go to claim that strongmen like GM were really Democrats at heart. Because this piece pushes that logic to the absolute limit, we're going to spend a little bit of time with it. So, let's begin. You know you're in for a weird ride when current events peace starts with a quote from Alice in Wonderland. And, ficials starts with a doozy. Quote. When I use a word Humpty dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, it means just what I choose to mean neither more nor less. The question is said Alice whether you can make words mean so many different things. The question is said Humpty dumpty which is to be master. That's all. End. Quote. Now according to official the world of nineteen, hundred, nine, a new and confusing place where words don't mean what we think they mean. It's time for us to reconsider the values. We attach to words that we think we know. Words like democracy and words like. Dictatorship. Quote. Our angels. Today. Are. Democrats and Anti Communists are demons are dictators and communists. These creatures come in many shapes, varied sizes and diverse forms, and when we stop every now and then to think about our friends and our foes, we feel more than a little confused. For we're living in a world that has suddenly changed and expanded. The family of nations is no longer a comfortably small club of European powers more or less Christian in character. No now, it includes all sorts of heathens many of them Brown still others black and most of them non-christian. If. Things seem a bit confusing to us. It is because we are truly prisoners of our political vernacular. Recently One articulate observer shrugged his verbal shoulders and annoyance over the inadequacies of the English language he recognized the emotional trap involved in the word dictatorship. At the same time he concluded, let's be more blunt and use the word dictatorship in spite of its associations. The essential point as he sees it is who's dictators are going to rule in Asia. But. Is this a valid conclusion? Are we faced only with a choice between to use the horrible term once more dictators of different complexions and quote. This brings Fischel to the case of Presidents Yelm. Given the setup of the article, you might expect the next move to be kind of like one of those annoying click beatty headlines. That's like president. GM is a dictator and that's a good thing. But officials point is more subtle. GM is a little D. Democrat who happens to have dictatorial powers. Quote. Is Not a dictator or a Democrat as one examines the structure of the Republic Vietnam and the behavior of president. No he learns that a GM has all the authority and all the power one needs to operate a dictatorship but be he isn't operating one. Here is a leader who speaks the language of democracy who holds the powers of a dictator and who governs a republic in accordance with the terms of a constitution. End Quote. The next move is interesting. Fisher argues that GM's ideology his democracy with dictatorial powers. Doesn't really matter because his people aren't ready for American style democracy anyway. ficials explanation comes down to really simple point. Uneducated Third World Asians need strong leaders like the M. Quote. In Vietnam as in the other new states of Asia that have burst forth like popping corn in the years since World War Two independence could not have been achieved and cannot be maintained without strong leadership. And strong leadership implies possession of great power. As one travels through these newly born countries, he comes to realize that from the standpoint of the history of thought the peoples of Southeast Asia are not generally speaking sufficiently sophisticated to understand what we mean by democracy and how they can exercise and protect their own political rights. And even though the leaders of the new states are making efforts to increase people's understanding of democratic concepts, their consciousness will be many years awakening. With literacy rates that range from a low of perhaps ten percent to a high of possible fifty percent, the peoples of Southeast Asia should not be expected to understand let alone embrace the difficult articles of our democratic faith and practice. This is not to say that the stirring principles of the Declaration of Independence do not exercise magnetic attraction Asians. It is rather to caution that the articulate few in Southeast Asia, who understand accept and even preached the Gospel of democracy are still the few. The unlettered majority while they too may find the sound of the words appealing are far more interested in the more immediate and tangible issues of securing and guarding their independence, increasing their standard of living and developing their countries. End. Quote. Now this brings official to his logical conclusion. It's okay if human rights suffer in the short term. As long as countries like South Vietnam the hands of broad minded well intentioned men who are ready to rule with an iron fist, and if they catch a little flak for a bit of dictatorship in the short term. Well powerful people always attract criticism and haters are unfortunately always going to hate. Quote. That individual human rights may often be neglected or sacrificed in this period of national infancy should not be surprising. We may find much consolation however in the fact that many of the new leaders and Southeast Asia are thinking and planning in terms of enlarged areas of freedom for individual citizens when such developments will be possible without endangering the independence of the nation and the liberty of the people. No one who is known note enzyme well can fail to be impressed by his determination to keep his country alive and bring increasing benefits, happiness and freedoms to his countrymen. that. He is criticized as sure. But then as disraeli said, the depository of power is always unpopular. It may seem paradoxical to some that out of. Governmental power may come individual freedom but considering the context in which Vietnam exists. Can one think of a more dependable method of shoring it? End Quote. By May nineteen, fifty nine when this piece appeared the US was firmly entrenched in South Vietnam. CIA advisors like Edward Lansdale were daily visitors in the presidential palace. Seven hundred and sixty military advisors were training the South Vietnamese army whose troops were paid and equipped largely thanks to American dollars. The US government had spent nearly a billion dollars on supporting the Diem regime since nineteen fifty-five most of it military aid. Over a thousand. American. Civilians supported the south. Vietnamese in everything from agriculture to urban planning. In May nineteen fifty, nine, the Eisenhower Administration lifted the restriction on Americans joining combat operations although they were still not allowed to partake in quote unquote actual combat. On, July eighth two of those advisers were stationed at Bien Hoa Airbase About Sixteen Miles from Saigon. American plans had been flying combat missions from the beast's since nineteen, fifty three albeit with French, pilots at the controls. When the French war in Indochina ended the South Vietnamese, Air Force and their American advisers took. In on this evening and early July U. S. and Vietnamese personnel were watching the tattered dress and Nineteen fifty seven wars starring Jeff Chandler and Jeanne crain in the mess hall? Sergeant Chester Open and just turn on the lights to change a reel when guerrillas from the National Liberation Front also known as the Viet Cong stuck their weapons through the windows of the Mess Hall and opened fire. Sergeant over and and Major Dale boosts along with two Vietnamese guards and the cooks eight year old son died in the attack. Although. These two Americans were not the country's first casualties in Vietnam the names of Sergeant Oh vne and major booths are the first two on the Vietnam Memorial in Washington. In nineteen fifty five during operation passage to freedom one year before deliver us from evil appeared in Reader's digest and four years before the NF killed two American advisors at Bien Hoa another book appeared on the shelves. With time it became clear that the quiet. American by the British. Journalist and author Graham. Greene was one of the most important and prescient books ever written about the passing of the torch in Vietnam from the old colonial powers to the new adventurism of the US. The quiet. American is narrated by Thomas Fowler Jaded Old Brit inside gone who feuds with a naive young American named Alden pyle. Pile is bloated with ideas about democracy and the domino theory zealot in the crusade to remake the world in the American image. Is a bit of a cross between Tom Dooley and Edward Lansdale who is rumoured although from what I've read is not actually the case to be the inspiration for the character. Fowler recognizes that pile lives in an imaginary world of good and evil a world that has nothing to do with the dirty realities of everyday life. And Fowler recognizes that few things are more dangerous than the innocent pursuit of deeply-held ideal. Quote. That was my first instinct. To protect him. It never occurred to me that there was a greater need to protect myself. Innocence always calls mutely for protection when we would be so much wiser to guard ourselves against it. Innocence is like a dumb leper lost his bell. Wandering the world meaning no harm. To, support inward empire. You can become a patron of the show by going to on. Dot. com. Slash inward empire. Even. 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"L believe it or not. We have made it to the final hour. Whether you wanted us to or not, thanks for being a part of the show. Get right back to the calls at eight five five four to seven to eight five. Glenn is up next a hell of Glenn. Hey, paul. I was wondering if you'd had any contact lately with your old associate Bill Lumpkin. Wow. What a great question. It's been a little while I talked to him about a year ago, and I saw a son, more recently than I think he just celebrated his ninetieth birthday, which getting up there. I worked thirty four years at the news. Did you do the same time that bail and other Houston Noel? Remember, max shoemaker maxium acre. Surely one of the great people I've ever worked with way too early. He he had cancer and died believe about twenty five years ago, maybe a little longer and just just a just a dear guy love. I used to have many, many sports conversation with Bill and MAC in the hallways of that old news built in which, you know, is now no longer. Yeah. You know, I was in Birmingham, not long ago down there. And it even though I've been in the frankly, the, the new buildings no longer you being used by all they sold charts company moved to a building down on first avenue north. This appreciate you. Remembering obviously you work there. But I those are such great days of my career, and I the overwhelming Lee large number of people that I know now and work with don't even have no no knowledge of that being a lot. I used to meet you staircase occasionally. I can still walk upstairs back, then I was. I took the stairs to. Yeah. He's thirty four years. That's pretty pretty amazing. I started a news and sixty five and retired in ninety nine you got out just in time. I did. I did it was. I really did know a Glenn about a year ago. I was in Birmingham. I happen to go over to what is what used to be the Birmingham news. It's now AOL dot com. And I saw. I saw a couple of people there that it reminded me it was it was almost like being back in the nineties. Eight hundred ninety s again, I saw some, some great people that from that air. Carol Robinson being one of them. She spent a police report of their forever. Yeah. And it was just so cool to, to, to be back there. But it's just yeah you know better than I do. Because you started before I did. But that era is just sadly gone. Oh, yeah, it went from newspapers thought out put much up till about the late. Seventies. Like they've been put out for the previous hundred years. And then everything went to computers and totally changed industry. Yeah. I saw John Archibald that day too. And I felt like it was nineteen eighty-five five all over again. Yeah, we're just walking down to John's for lunch. Let me ask you about go back about all those forty years. About the time you came to the poster. I remember I think you and Bill had a double biolog- do come a doll. I'm sorry. You brought that up because I, I, I think you had the I think, which actually go to come is a long story, but I was telling you a friend of mine that not that long ago, I just got into the post herald and Vince Dooley. Who's the Auburn coach who was it was a Georgia coach was was they had fired Doug Barfield? And I. This is not a well known story for younger people. But Auburn when after Vince, who wants to learn of course. And so I'm working on the story Sunday night. It's about eleven o'clock, and you can relate to this, Glenn, and the story was reading had read. Auburn is continuing its pursuit of Vince Dooley. In an effort to bring him back home. There's all serious contact has been made. An offer has been made. It never said that he had taken the job. So no about eleven forty five and you know how late that is for a deadline in the story was, I think the story was in the sports page. Obviously, it was, it was Lumpkin calls me. And I don't know where he was. But he said, it's do we go with it. I said Bill, what do you mean go with it? Because at the time it was just my story. It was not that big a deal. It was a speculative story. He said he said, it's a done deal. I said, okay. He said, just, he's just strip it across the front page as big a headline, as you can get up front pay. I said, anything else Billy said copyrighted, I go whatever that means and I said, okay, so I'm writing the story feverishly it's now midnight, and you can only imagine the news desk, but, you know, it was a big story today. So I said, no Bill. Let me let me make sure I get all this, right. I've got your name. I said, no, no. He said he said, put your I said, Bill. It's your stories. He's putting put both names on it. Yeah. So, so the story I'll never forget this because I say that for a long time, it read Vince Dooley has been hired as auburn's football, coach sources told the newspaper. And of course, the story came out the next. It came out Monday morning. They ought the SEC used to have a presidents meeting in town, the at the end of the last weekend, and the president of the university of Georgia. Woke up read his newspaper and went crazy called called the university. They sent a plane and he, and he if we waited a day, Auburn probably where to hired Stuey, and then they offered Vince, whatever he wanted, and I asked Bill, I said, no. No. We were the first break it in the first break. He was studying Georgia, by the way, and I said, Bill, we're in the world. Did you get that he said, I think he told me David, how's showed him the press release? They had already written a press release that, that had been got. It was that far along and it, you know, 'cause they're famous stories in history just like this. Lyndon Johnson had a story similar to that. I think about J Edgar Hoover, Ben rally. An ISA said Bradley Johnson to fire, J Edgar Hoover, and that morning. He said he said, name, name him, the FBI director for the rest of for, for a lifetime appointment just to get the newspaper back heard that Barbour didn't we'll come back to denial Joe. I don't think he did. But, but Vince at the time not to deepen the weeds was he was at odds with the president. I think he wanted to be the athletic director and he net. And as you know, Vince, he was able to mortgage that headline. In our newspaper to getting the job in anything else. He wanted. And of course, it didn't hurt that he won the national championship either. Well, if the next time you get in contact with Bill give him. My regards, may remember me Glen, I will in. You can tell those days are gone. But fortunately, there's still people like us around to remember them. Absolutely. We'll talk with what a pleasure. Yeah. In. It taught me a very valuable lesson. In journalists never be absolute say could be might be expected to be. But we were. One of these days, Vince is gonna pay Bill and I back forgetting him for tripling your salary. Let's continue with more phone calls here Howie is in New Orleans. Go right ahead. Hey Paul, but afternoon, thanks for taking my call. Thank you very much. Thank you, for that been still sort ball. You know, all of those articles stories, well, it's. It was it was one of the most. I mean I just started my career and I'd blown the biggest story of my career. It was it was not. It was not an auspicious beginning. Well, it was great. Paul, what's let's get the current events? Okay. I was late getting on today to watch. And I thought I would hear dabble Sweeney Mika Brzezinski Willie Geist and, and Jim, all in one segment, that, that, that I have put it all together with the help of a friend of mine who watched the whole show today. And the thing is, is that personally, I, I don't think that close to meeting of meant anything by that other than other than this problem for me a, what would happen Paul if he goes to Koutzamani and in the future, and it goes into a home, and uncle, or an aunt somebody's in there with the young man and asks him, you know, we lost, so and so and the New York bombing or or at the hands of bin Laden, I own explain that. I mean, what would you say I was joking. You know, I mean it could happen. Full. Well, you know, I tell you what I would do, I would I would get, I would try to get out in front, and clarify the statement and otherwise as long as it hangs out there. Harry. It's going to stick to him in some way, shape or form. But I don't think it's the biggest deal in the world. But, but no. But it it's it to me. It's a bigger deal than some people are making it out to be. Well, it may not come back to haunt you me, a anybody knows. But like this gentleman it just call from Alabama, and it was irate that you will bring it up. I don't think that's unfair for you to bring that up. In fact, it may help that both to realize he's come out now and, and explain it just did it. I mean you know, he doesn't wanna wanna wanna done. I'm list, that's for sure. You know. Yeah. I mean I mean he wouldn't would he did was within can't, I don't think Daboh, thanks for the call here. I don't think Dabbagh really, you know, said this maliciously, but I think he got carried away. And I it's, it's a by the way, it's a fine line. I've been there many times in front of groups and you, you, you go down a road. And sometimes you just can't get back. Thanks for the call. We really appreciate it more phone calls in trips down memory lane after this some back to the program. More phone calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five. He's been a guest on this trove of many, many times at one time, I think, Joe buffington was the reigning legal expert from the finebaum show Correggio. Yes, exactly. I would I was in. I was with you in the calls. It. Yeah. Not only maverick, I think he played a role in what famous were. You were you involved in the trial of the century on the show. Yes. Obviously, if the pay these don't fit you, Joey always been, I, I think we've had two trial of the century of Tammy of Phyllis and I think you were I know you were involved in both of them. So, but anyway, I say all that to let people know, the Joe was not a stranger to this show. No, not at all. And thank you, but, and I've rarely call in obviously, I think the last time I called in was about this time a year ago when my slob past and I'm calling now because of thank Bromberg past. And so, yeah. Those who didn't know frame Bromberg in my opinion, really one of the most prominent in distinguished in. You don't often hear this is third part of the sentence, nicest, people that have ever served in a high position. He was a longtime member of the university of Alabama board of trustees very prominent Birmingham, family fan. But in the jewelry business, I think the older, wouldn't that they are not the oldest. Yeah, eldest visits in the state of Alabama. Right. Maybe in the country, and it may be day thirty or something. But. At a mobile. I was just so, so so, so disappointed and devastated to hear that news the other day, just you rarely and we've had this conversation about Franken. I'll let you finish it. But. Rarely do you find someone who hold who can hold up over so many years, and be revered and loved by everyone. That's exactly right. And, you know, of course, you know about are. Adventures over the years with me, and you and find three. Those were different days. We've had a few. We bound to a few games together. Right. But anyway, it was a it was a normal service and just, you can imagine how classy, it was and everything, and, you know, fronts, mother Lilla and, you know, you know, I spent the night over there so many times, and just and lella was she was and is the backbone of that family and the sense that she's, you know, she's just, she's a great old, southern gal that just, you know, she's in charge. And so two hundred hundred told you the story I think it was. May have been the sugarbowl that Bill curry was was the coach and I was a there's always this New Year's Eve sugar ball party. And, and I, I showed up and, you know, the media is invited. But there really discouraged from staying too long and it's a big it's a big deal. I think Pete fountain was the entertainment to I'm wandering around with. I don't know. I don't there's no assigned seat, and I run into Frank Bromberg, and he stops me and he says, Paul sit down with us. I said, Frank, you're sure you want to be seeing. And this was the time I was very critical curry. I didn't. And I can't remember exactly what he said. I mean other words, what do I, I don't really care what anyone thinks it out. So I sat down with them. And, and really, I mean, I knew him through John Forni. But that night we became quite. Close friends after that, and. I it just I mean, I it showed me a lot because I don't need to educate you on, on the attitudes of Alabama. Aristocracy and but I cannot tell you, how many great times we've had together not a you, you pretty much grew up in that house says you said, no. It's actually has spent the night. There's so many times and, and Lello would always wake, you know, 'cause prank is great. This is runner. And she would, you know, like screaming guy. Yeah. My friends strike. The thank threes we go. To go run. And I mean like ten twelve fifteen mile fry go. And she in that I get up. And she said, no Joe you go back to sleep. I'll 'cause you loop. I'm really I really appreciate you sharing that with us because. I I really. In the many people that I missed seeing when I left firming him. He was certainly at the top of the list. Absolutely. I know you probably gotta go. But enjoy sharing that picture you and yeah, those, there's something weird about those dates. Yeah. No, we, we, we we, we all make do. On saying is, but I am a those big game from all over the country for Mr. Vomberg funeral about they hope. He's listed Morris. Grow one favorite p with all time and losing Dallas. And, you know, anyway, but bucking the mail and the, you know, he's all of the country, those Dicks is some little bit different about them. Well. I mean you're the good way. No, I. Well, listen. I it's great see a couple of weeks ago, and I will see very sin. Yeah. Okay. So thank you. I will love of my life. Well, unsure that will go over well at her house. Thanks you. Okay. Joe buffington talking about the, the life of frightened Bromberg junior who passed away the other day and was buried on, on Saturday. Let's continue with more calls and Tommy is in New Orleans. Hey, Tommy good afternoon. Are you doing? Paul down here in New Orleans spreading the good word of Alabama. Thank you. People just don't seem to get it. Man. Just want to let people know. I mean, I've heard at work in different things that, you know, Alabama dynasties dead because Clemson, just because you shoot Jesse James that doesn't make you Jesse James, we want, you know, we to Intuit them in the last four years and won five out the last night, you know, five out the last ten national championships. And we got the number one recruiting class that just came in and, you know, every time we've lost in a finals, we've come back in one in that he actually is always struck back. Well, and I think that's what I is a reason for that. I mean, what, what, what's it what's fascinating to me time is, I think two of savings best teams. Lost against Clemson has undefeated teams and one team. I think that beat Clemson, probably should not have one he called the, the onside kick and the other game. I'll give him that one w really? But we should've swift one. We lost by one point one second left, think we should have one. And I think we got outplayed the other game. But exactly. I mean besides when it five out the last ten we played for two other ones, and, you know, I heard you say earlier about who's gonna quarterback Alabama after two of when he leaves it that she shavings done real well with first year quarterbacks he has. And, you know, I mean my thing is I know people really don't like land Kippen, but I've always wanted if he was still offense coordinator how great he could have done with two. And now you've got all your. Alabama would have one more national championship. If lane kiffin head state another game. I'll say that. What Steve coming in? You know, a similar type of coordinator, I just feel great things with this receiving coal we have, you know, we always got decent running backs. You just never got a chance to hurt, you know, hear from them, yet because, you know, we were so spanked and also, you know, there was the thing about the performance enhancing drugs that Clemson players tested positive less. You just feel like Dabo gets a pass on all of these things. That's not really brought up major in the national media that would have been you know, if it was saving. Somebody just feel like be damned apple such a likable guy, you know, private all it is. Yeah, you're right. I mean, I it's it's again at the time it didn't seem like a big deal. But now that some more information has come out, I think it is a bigger deal. And he did get a pass. Thank you. Tommy, thank you very much for the call. We're up against a break thirty minutes to go as we continue here on a Tuesday afternoon. We'll come back is been a interesting one today. And we have thirty minutes to go said to David is calling from Sacramento, California. David, thank you. And good afternoon. Good afternoon. Paul appreciate you taking my call. First time phoning in. So listen, you know, regarding Dabo's comments, you know, I, I have to confess I engaged in a little bit of subterfuge and deception with your screener because it's June. We ought to be talking warriors rafters. I could care less about college football. I mean you know, there's nowhere else on on ESPN. You can find conversation about Kevin Durant, or the where's the raptors? I exactly. And while I'm appreciative of your very niche target demographic, both regionally and sports wise. I wanted to get your thoughts and what seems to be an emerging topic in the NBA now. But I think it's going to translate into other sports as well. And that is this whole idea of load management. And you know, it was so coincidental we saw two superstars on opposite ends on the. Yesterday Durant, obviously, with tragically what he suffered and then on the other side is quite Leonard. Right. Who famously sat out a season? With San Antonio sat out twenty two games with his home team Toronto, all because he trusted his body, and maybe not all the medical advisers in this topic of load management and save yourself for the postseason is becoming more more trendy. And, and I also wonder not just from a performance standpoint, but from a health standpoint it starts to emerge in the world of college football and youth football given everything we know about CTE do you think this is a trend? It's ephemeral it's just in the moment, because of Durant, and coli, or is this going to be something that has legs, I think it has legs David and I wondered last year and I said it a couple of times, just in college football since when, when Nick Sabin in my mind seemed to be abusing to, for what reason. He didn't need him to win those games. And I think sometimes there is a professional mentality with quarterbacks. And I, I think it's listen, what's going on in, in Oakland Toronto is being watched by everyone of these players at every level. And I think it's pretty easy to understand that it will trickle down with the level of entitlement that all young athletes have today. I believe it will stick now some places it would be easier to do than others. But I I'm not one that wants to opine to too heavily on on what happened to Durant yesterday because I really don't know what they knew, but I do know these not playing anymore and he's not playing for a long time. Right. Right. And we saw a complete contrast in how a similar situation was approached by by Kawai over these last eighteen now. And so, but, you know, once again, I tell you happen to agree with you, and I think it's going to be relevant another older with somebody the other day who played college football and pro football. And we were talking about why why do you see so many transfers nowadays? And I asked him, I said, what do you think it is, is it the entitlement? Is it the transfer of Puerto? And he said, you know what it is? It's the parents of the players and you know what I mean by that. But they are now more involved than they've ever been a players. Families have always been involved. And I think that's a dirty little secret that we don't talk about very often. Everyone remembers being on the little league team at ten years old, and there was, there was always some dad Hoving over who made sure his kid got in. But, but now it extends and. Coaches can't talk about it, but those fathers. Or always they're, they're always at practice. They're always watching in the second, they sent something is changing their, the I believe they're the first ones that start looking around to get their son. Elsewhere. Yeah. No, I in in, I may be crossing a very delicate line here. Particularly with respect to perhaps the target of this show. But there are some pretty strong regional educational per capita income factors that are alternately playing into longer term health issues of football. And in a perverse way, I fear that the southeast candidly from a cultural standpoint is going to actually become more and more dominant a force in college football over the next decade or two, because what we are finding in areas of, let's face, it, higher education in average income levels. We see more attrition of youth football and parents keeping their kids off the field. No. You're, you're, you're absolutely right. David. And it's. I see it hear it and you're dead on. Well, I appreciate ever. Thank you. Great perspective, we really do. Appreciate we go. Sacramento south to Los Angeles. Phil go right ahead. You're on the air. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. Yeah. I want to make a comment in reference to the Davos, sweetie statement. Well, if you don't over the last couple of years demo has made some statements, you know, Abba, call consider them in filter, so. It's like downton orient America. You know, people say now you know where there was a time when, you know you would. Really filter for you would say up, think before you said in his they but now because of the atmosphere in this country. I think just this guy has reached the top of the meat saying he figured. Well, I'm at the top. So I can say whatever, in my mind, maybe whatever I wanna see. So, you know with no repercussions, you know, I can do I say, what I want to say I go to all these different outlets and entities have been going to travel into it reminds me of something else. So someone else I mean, I'm just saying that possibly could have something to do with it. But I don't know. This is just an opinion. So I, I don't think this is really that difficult to understand. I think here here's a guy who. Who's it on really interesting and difficult position having gone? Dalla Bama being from Alabama and now he's ruined to Alabama season. So he's, he's finding a way to new onset. Never I heard him. I've heard him do it myself. In front of an Alabama audience. And he was funny that night, this wasn't funny, but, but because I just don't you know, humor and I've tried to be funny in my in my life. And I've given up on it because it's not a comedian. I, I don't know if there's a I mean I'm not trying to compare comedians with people that, that save mankind. But there, there are, there are few lonely or posts in the world into stand in front of a crowd, and try to make them laugh. And I think Dabbagh was trying to be funny here. But I think it showed a high degree of sensitivity by by. I mean you can you can make fun of a lot of people in, in search your name into a lot of different things. But Somma bin Laden is not one of those names that you really want anything to do with. Exactly. That's, that's my point. You know, you mean he you have to have a filter at some point in time think before you talk talking to Ben thinking out the words, I think I think I think he's a very bright guy in the sense of, of what he's put together. But I personally knowing him moderately, well and watching him over the years since he played high school football. I think the stage is uncomfortable for him. I think he's he much prefers being the underdog trying to get up that hill and bring all of the bunch of the guys that never had a chance and got disrespected. I mean he's got five stars across the board now. And, and he beat Alabama and he's talking after like nobody respects our program. Well, that's a bunch of crap. I mean he's been in the national championship hunt for four consecutive years. He's won two titles. And that's just that's just doesn't play any longer. Yeah. That's that that'd be is one of my point was said, he's at the top of the food. So. Arrive. Now, whatever comes out of my mouth. You know, I don't get a he had some discretion to a point. But I, I wonder if he has full discretion. I don't know. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a big turn fill and especially at a school like Clemson. I'm sure Clemson hands will not like this. But Clemson is not Alabama. It is Alabama is part of college football royalty Clemson is not. It's a little, it's a it's a it's a, it's a nice little school off the beaten path, and the first time I drove there. I couldn't find it because it's not on the GPS. I mean, try try try taking your first trip to Clemson at midnight on a Friday night, and all of a sudden you're you're in the middle of nowhere. And you don't know where to go because your GPS is like is like reprogramming every two seconds, because it's not on the map. Yeah. Well, it is now why wasn't there? Well, he's definitely putting it on the mound. That kidding. It probably it's probably on the new GPS map, but five years ago, we're not drove there for the first time. Couldn't find it. You can find a now just follow the national championship trophies. We'll take we'll take a break more to come on this Tuesday afternoon. Glad you're with us. And let's go to Charleston. Next Jack you're on the air as we begin to one things down. Hey, jack. How you doing? Okay. Thank you. Good. Oh, my take on the other thing is, I don't believe any harm but what you said, but I think he committed a big mistake, and that was he uttered a controversial name. And he seemed to be making light of it, and thus giving his detractors ammunition for feigned outrage. And, and to, you know, give them a bit of a toehold on into pulling down a little bit because within three months of nine eleven Saturday Night Live was doing sketches about her home been bin Laden. And you know, just just seems to be much to do about nothing. I the, the pecking order a major college football has been upset. My little old Clemson. And people don't like that, especially people in areas used Houston, having their way and success. And I've been that's what it's all about be honest with you. Well, okay. Well, listen. I don't think this is something that will be a big deal down the road. We were just talking about it today. And, and all the gentlemen from I think it's Saturday on south he was in maybe if Dabo had a scene, Jon Stewart's, impassioned speech before he, he would've thought twice. I don't know if Jon Stewart had any comedy sketches about bin Laden, maybe that could be Google and tell them down. But yeah, just I mean, I don't I didn't go through all of them, but I saw several sketches throughout the years and the first one that I noticed was three months after it actually happened. And you know. For everybody. Get upset over Dabo, making them basically a joke and, and claiming that he would be treated like that. He had to go to the back ways of pays and stuff like that. I think any you've had a real controversial name. I guess people a chance to, you know. I would think of all people dabbled Sweeney we'd probably understand how folks felt I mean he's from that statement with. I, I I've been I brought it up today, but I'm not trying to act quite you know, the get off your lawn guy because I didn't like it. But I also. Don't find it to be anything other than a prison into Daboh that maybe something we haven't seen before. And I know that sounds like we're trying to make a big deal out of it. But, but you add that on top of the statement, he made a couple of weeks ago about leaving the go to the NFL that came about three weeks after signing a long term deal, he, he's made a couple of odd comments, and I, I've already said that I think it has more to do with him, not being comfortable in, in the front car. So that might be true. But because this kind of new to him, you know, to the but anyway, I just think that's what it's about more. You know, raise chancer nocco double down a little bit. And you know that's my take on it. But cruciate you taking my call from South Carolina Franklin is in Alabama. How are we Franklin? Great hall, are you? We are doing great. Thank you. Thanks for taking my call. Listen known probably looking at this, the orange colored glasses being a Clinton fan for thirty three years. But all the times you enter in this, the things he says, tongue in cheek, you know, he was being interviewed by serious uptick your day, and they're asking them about being one of the favored sons of Alabama. And basically he was trying to acquaint himself with the most hated man in America, you know, at one point, or SAMA been locked by saying, you know, having to take the back alleys, you know, and then caves, or whatever it come into the state because there's a Somma been Daboh and basically, I just think that there's a lot of, you know, outrage over really something that he just making a joke about, I really don't think it was, you know, anything other than just him being telling and cheek and try that quite himself with the most hated man in Alabama the same way Osama bin Laden was with the country. So, well, I mean. Yeah. You know, I I will stand down, and then we'll all live. To see another day and. The arguments have all been great. My opinion has not changed. We'll see you tomorrow.

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November 21st, 2020

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Welcome to another edition of. Jv sports show james movie alongside my broadcast partner. Fiscally ceo feds the combination of the regular season for a lot of teams last night here in arizona and the start of a few playoff games as well for some other teams fourteen games in seven weeks. James it was a lot of fun and oh oh we're talking about the other teams out there not us got world dog. It's never about us No it's not an incredible season and i. It's been a under the circumstances to be able to start and finish year. I give i give coaches players families a lot of credit hats off to you. I mean it's been quite a year while you're right. It's a team effort. All the way round the coaches had to be wary of everything that was going on. Now with having the the social distance protocols. And you know we can't get together. We try to install game plans over soon. And i can't really see if this guy knows how to run the route or not. He just tells me. Hey coach i got. I got i got to believe him. I mean can you imagine. Can you imagine that. I can't and you know what's interesting is the fact that teams are there. The re booking games thursday you know the day before and there is absolutely no game plan going on. I mean how are they doing that. And it's like okay. We're going to have a game tomorrow against so and so and get ready. And i mean it it's been. It's been an incredible year. But i'm really really happy with with how we've been able to rebound the perseverance The the kids you know being able to have a senior year you know the the seniors out there. The coaches had been able to put a product on the field and really You know continued it to keep the kids active and give them something to look forward to it. It's you know special task. We've been part of a lot of senior nights this year because a lot of the every week that yeah every week was either homecoming or senior night or something to that fact. let's up. You know some good games last night and The bracket is coming up on the nfl network this morning. Jose garcia and brent went doing that actually right now on nfl network. So if you want to jump on that. I've got that on right now. Keep an eye on that. They're going to start teams. That are making the play offs for sure. And then we're going to be seated and everything so make sure to tune into that that'll be good. There's a lot of exciting stuff going on today and this morning volleyball playoffs going on today as you're well aware i was supposed to be doing a lot of those volleyball playoffs today. Unfortunately an issue here at the house with mr water ear while too. That's another story so anyway today while the water. What are you gonna finish editing tomorrow. Night's javy sports show that that will air on cox channel four phoenix set channel. Seven little bittersweet. It's our final show. The football season We're gonna take a little break but we're going to continue our shows on youtube so we think We think the the cox your view staffer given us the opportunity to spread our message. Statewide and blighted The medium that we have on the internet we can continue that we look forward to it and and get your feedback folks. What did you like. what did you like Do you wanna see more. James and vince lesser james. Usually it's less james advanced. Don't ask them that question. Yeah let us know. Hey here from you guys. You're right we wanna know what what what works for what they were. Hey you guys. I really love the thursday night football. Id but it was tough for me to watch the game. Because i work late on thursdays or hey you know what saturday night works out really well for me or hey. Don't don't do it on saturday night. Saturday saturdays are reserved for college football. Keep it on thursday nights. I love to on thursday night. Just let us know get on twitter. S follows at jv sports show and we want to try to make it as good as we can. We try to put a quality product out there for you folks to enjoy and we hope you did that. I think a lot of the team set great time being on the program day did and james. You and i obviously are very interactive with people. I mean if anybody wants to reach out to us you could do so. In a variety of ways you go on youtube jays on youtube channel. You can go on twitter at. Jv's four show and let us know and even during this playoff season you know james. You've you've got your commitments with nf. Hfs you're going to be out there doing outstanding exciting games. I'm going to be kinda roving around and and doing something a little different. You know. we're gonna. It'll be a throwback to the old days of just radio. I'm going to do some audio streams. I'll do a little bit of video. But i i'm going to set up some games and i want to know What games you guys want street. And i'll get out there and i'll do it. Whoever whoever whatever it has the consensus of the most votes hug out there. And i'll do a game and so far Kind of penciled in to do the one a state championship game next saturday the twenty eighth so excited for that and james. That'll be great. That's that's some good football down there. One eight division especially with those teams that are in the hunt still williamson superior. I believe in. Yeah yeah oh man those guys some fantastic games in the one a division mogi dobson another one. Yeah a hop mobiles another one. that's always in the mix there so if you guys haven't had a chance to get out and catch up. Catch some of that action. Obviously we want you to tune in and listen to vince calling the game and you can do that in the stands. But it's really cool. We'd have to write or over at red mountain football that we encourage them to jump on there and they'll actually just you know they'll put their phone down a listen to the game call as we do the game while they're sitting in the stands and winker to do to you know during the championship so but if you haven't seen eight man. Football is pretty exciting. It's james let's transition back to thursday night so thursday night We did the thursday night game of the week we wrote a buckeye high school. We call the game. Excuse me at yonkers. High school called the game yonker against buckeye so we called the game. We had a health coach. Kelly f. lee kelly. The legendary kelly on the on the replays this morning on the coast lee basically had the call of majority of the first quarter and he did a great job. That's where we were at halftime. He said look. I'm bored. i'm in administration now and not coaching. So i gotta get up here. And i got a call these games. We were begging in the second. Half it start off. It was kind of funny in the first half. Yeah he's ruling formation. That covers everything as a pa announcer. Second half it was like look any dis out. There one hire a guy to get back into coaching. This guy will work for free that poor so when you watch the game show attend. You'll hear james. And i kind of laughing at the beginning then a second half. It was a little bit of frustration. Goats coach kelly's great. We had fun with all good fun. We had a great time out there. It was the battle for the bell. Obviously we were honest to To be able to name that rivalry fence and we want you to it as well to the premiere of the the final episode of this football season of. Jv sport show tomorrow night eleven. Excuse me ten thirty pm on cox your view and then eleven pm on her youtube channel because we had some Post game time. There is presented the bell to the winners the buckeye hawks. Yeah cool so we had. Were you know. James on the line with us is the mvp. The player of the game of thursday night's game this destined movement company will talk to him. His name is jalen richardson. he's on the line with us right now. Jalen are you there. Hey jalen good morning. Congratulations man. Sorry about the delay there james and i usually get get on a ramble here and continue on but wanted to circle back with you and tell you you know. How did it feel to get that win. You guys beat yonker on their forty. Two zero The good we were just going out there to play our own game. No we had a mind going in that. You know you're going to be a tough game. It's always a road. Game against yonker is also rivalry but we went out. There mindset. Good and got the dough. But jalen congratulations again on the movement company. Mvp of the game. What did you guys do last night. You had a friday night off. It was an exciting night all around the valley. There was some great games. Did you guys get to trips football or was it. Hey guys you gotta get to bed early and rest up We all get our own thing. But we're getting ready for the preseason. It's time to start getting the focus again for next year to start working out again so we have to do some amazing facilities there to fence. We got a chance to catch up with a coach. Cook more there. And he showed us around the rate room when we were over there beautiful facility and now nothing but strengthened went on over there for the buckeye hawks. Yeah we have a beautiful facility Coach more he's done a lot for the community in the school and we really appreciate that also coaches helpless on. We need to do not just a school but how to become you know young men. 'cause that's the goal at the end of the day. You know football or we'd never going to be there all the time but we need to be respectful young man and always know we're going to listen to that that is i feel like i'm talking with coach more right now. Right i'm pr-. I mean i'll tell you what. And that's how all of the players on that buckeye team sound you. You gotta meant coach kelly. You know something special over there and he gives us a hard time. He says it's getting a little a little deep in here. We start with the compliments but more is definitely imparted. Some some amazing gifts to these kids. Not only on the field off the field and And you guys got a heck of an offense and defensively weren't jab either. I mean to pitch a shutout there. but congratulations on that win. Jalen good-looking the offseason. And now you junior senior this year. I'm a junior your boy. Oh boy is right. So ios radars vince. I say if he isn't already so we look forward to catching up with you guys next year. We're gonna get out there. But hopefully the game is at buckeye next year. 'cause we gotta you gotta get another. Pa announcer coach. Kelly jealous always great talking with you. Thank you for your time the other night on the field as well and make sure you guys tune into the show tomorrow night to catch that clip and we will be following you in the offseason. I think you're going to go back and hit the weight room right now. I think good man. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate jane. Thanks again. Right jalen out. It's it's what what are fans. I think that was one of jail. One wash well whenever anyway so the rest of the show coming up the rest of the show so when we come back from the break. We're coming back with buckeye coach. Kelly moore to give us a postgame recap Then we're going to be joined by yonker. Coach tony clusky in the next segment. After that we are going to be joined by a couple of coaches from last night's game. The derek called out at a desert mountain high school in scottsdale coach conrad hamilton and coach eric. Rogers of south point a will be calling in the mid point of the show the nine thirty segment then the final segment. 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Alexis frustrated no matter. How many times do you ask. The answer is male chicken ready. Alexa hoping jd. Sixty to listen to your favorite shows. Those good morning. Welcome back into the sport. Show james alongside my broadcast partner vince. The men's that's my favorite journey song. I love that song. Free surveyed man. So it's good stuff. Well we game thursday night buckeye at younger. Obviously the game was originally scheduled to be over at buckeye union. High school but with everything getting reshuffled a little bit. they're finally got underway. Lat this past thursday night and with the site was yorker high school. And now we're pleased to be joined by head. Coach kelli ward of the buckeye coach. More with us. Yes sir good morning. Good morning to you sir. Great to talk with you again as always likewise coach you. You sound very jovial this morning beyond pitching shutout yet. Well every day. That's just how you are but a little more so because you pitch shut out yet a great jalen. What can you say about jalen. Richardson years the things that he said about the the team and i wish i would've. I'm actually under under the getting checked in here today because we're going fully virtual but hopefully you know he did a great job. He's got a great heart. I would expect nothing less coach. We were extremely impressed. I told vince a moment ago. I felt like i was talking to you. I felt like he was talking to us that a lot about the culture that you've been still during your program. Well i hope so thank you. I hope it's at least headed in the right direction. That's what we want coach. We're we're grateful not only for the opportunity to be able to to to do what we do. Eat out there the other night. We called your game but you guys you were the first one kind of jumped on the band way and it was a bit of blind faith at first but when you when you came on board and committed to being one of the schools to be featured this season Early on in the spring when we started talking about this stuff. It seem like everybody else when they when they heard. Oh killing moore's in. oh okay. We're in kelly. moore's in. oh yeah it is. We'll talk about that. But the respective of your your peers. Well i think that's way too high appraise. I i think honestly what happened. Was you guys prevented her prevented Actually promoted a great opportunity for Another venue especially for the smaller kinda outta reach schools. Let alone the big schools so i i think it would have been an. It's gonna be even bigger. But i just think that's what happened honestly coach. We were pleased to be a part of it and we appreciate you jumping on board when you did. Obviously we had a bunch of schedule changes. But you guys hung in there with us and we're able to get the game at away talking about the performance of your football team. You guys really came out and for lack of a better term dominated football game. Well i again. I'm glad you think so That first half you know. I was sitting in the press box. Getting an opportunity. To monitor our sideline and all that and it looked pretty lacklustre honestly Thought looked just like we practice during the week. The kids when they poured so much into it i think they just the energy level was waning. it's kind of the final. You know it's over. I think at halftime probably coach cooney coach camera. Who who knows who else there may have been. Somebody else may have actually struck the match 'cause after halftime. Now now i mean. We came out on fire for sure coach. You guys played eight games this season. More than many of the teams that qualified Playoff seedings now. Granted you finished five and three but a heck of an exclamation point to end the season. What what's going on in the off season for you guys while it's interesting you say that you know. We will start after thanksgiving so the monday after thanksgiving i. We'll start on our journey for next year. You know whether it all starts in the classroom. I burst trying to mandate culture and expectations. And then we'll we'll test you know the kids physically mentally Through december until we're so that's of the goal in the next four weeks after this is to make that happen. It'll be interesting because we're actually going back to full virtual At school here. So i'm not real sure what it's gonna look like yet but but part of that is what we missed last year. I think it's why it took us so long to get on track. So i'm hoping we can get back on it this year. Well coach. i think we're all just thankful to to still be playing football. Obviously the playoff brackets are coming out right now as we speak. They're releasing the two eight bracket right now and Teams are just happy to have have played any games the season and get a full season in and then have a chance to even compete for the playoffs. I think it's just all been a blessing for everyone. So we thank you for being a part of our program and we look forward to catch up with you guys very soon. A not checking out the buckeye home. We gotta have wings at cafe. Twenty five thirty five out there all these. I will be giving you shout. You know tony yonkers incredible guy. The wings aren't even on his restaurant's menu and yet he puts out to the winner of the game. And so and when we get that squared away. I'm sure it'll be after thanksgiving. You guys are invited. Expect you to be there actually. Yes joining us now. Coach off to have any concerns Considering the last name of the guy that owns the place is younger. I mean are there any. They're gonna put not not on our end. But i'm thanksgiving dinner table there. Maybe piston cups. We kind of out in the game. I'm sure they'll finish it up their own table we could. We could have touched on that to coast but We don't have time to go there. I pretend that point. We appreciate it guys very soon. Thank you so much man. Love you guys for doing what. You love bucket. Bug-eyed coach kelly moore. Okay so joining us on the line. We have younger coach. Tony good morning coach cloth. How are you sir morning guys. I was going. It was a bittersweet senior night for your son. You got to walk him down. Yeah it was a it was an emotional night Second second of my two sons graduated from yonkers. Don't done coach and my kids. Wow that's gotta be a a bittersweet feeling. Vince says well talk about some of your other seniors coach You got to watch play the other night you know. This was The freshman group. That i kinda brought in as as my head coach as my first year head coach at them. But you know before before the school year starts we bring him in for freshman camp and You know at seventeen seniors. And i think fourteen of those were at that freshman camp and You know and being with my son. So i was everything they ever did. So you know while real close tight coach so we gotta look. I tell you what that cow derek. Raul caldeira really ran. The heck out of the football really enjoyed watching him play manual floors defensive lineman a played a lights out Had some bright moments in the game and unfortunately that i drive You know where you were down to. The one had a couple of penalties kinda pushing out. But it it you put some moments together some flashes of brilliance. And you've got a lot to build on going into next season. Yeah you know when we come back to the game. If if the game ended at halftime. I would have been a very happy to be honest with you coach. More you know he he puts together some great offense to play you know and he and i ran defense against them for even back in my days at all free so you know he knows everything i do. We kind of you know when when we had a fourteen day quarantine fourteen days in my room. just trying to come up with You know different stuff that he's never seen from me. And you know and i thought the first couple drives we You know for defensively. I thought we we did. We did really well through some things that they weren't expecting event. Yeah just offensively. It's tough when you get down first and goal in the one before you even run a play first goal. You know seventeen. Yeah yeah unfortunately vistor coastal you guys battled. It really wasn't pretty good first. Half fits obviously very competitive for staffordshire and it was a great time. We had a great time out there coach. We appreciate you out. And it was great for three their senior night as well. Yeah you're doing this. It's great that you guys are not just focusing on you know the big schools that since you're focusing on some of us outline schools they don't really get the notoriety agreed. It's great coach. The another big question. I have for you is do you think you can find kelly apnea job away from a microphone right. I you know. I don't know i don't know if you know the story. Kelly kind of was my mentor. He When i when i was a freshman coach out there and and it took him a couple of years to bring me up and and coach varsity and i started running his defense. You know back in those days which you know everson griffen those and And so you know when. I when my time that was done he was the head coach yonker so he probably bad he brought me back over under his wing and that first year coached under him. Well i don't. I don't tell coach mustard anything except yester- no that's good coach. We we had flood. You know it started off kind of funny. We're like who is this guy and then somebody said. Well let's kill the lee and he's calling coverages. he's calling. Ron and i mean the football. Iq in the stadium either went up extremely high or people just were scratching their heads because they didn't understand what the heck he was saying. And that's exactly what all the fans tell me big either. Come up to me and say oh my gosh. I've learned so much about football or they go to go. I have no idea what he's talking about. You know that was really cool. Honestly it's rare actually find someone that's able to do that so it's pretty cool and we had a great time i was. We got the experience senior night with you. I got a great shot of you and your family walking down the track sony. I've understood great picture. Oh good good. good good. Excellent excellent coach. Thank you again and good luck. This offseason we look forward to getting back out there next year and Yeah go rough riders all right. I'll take you guys. i appreciate it. Have a great thanksgiving goes. We appreciate you okay. Right well james while gone half the shows gone and you know what we got more coming up even even more stuff coming up. We've got Mountain head football coach. Conrad hamilton will join us after the break Then we've got eric rogers. Head football coach tucson south point. All the folks in tucson listening in will He'll be joining us in that Right after Come back here from the break. You're on the. Jv sports show stay tuned. We'll be right back to the. Us ten sixty am phoenix. Don't change it extra point with canada. More tomorrow and bob camp take a deeper dive into the sports. World picks our show from twelve noon to one. Three hearing am ten sixty. Hello sports fan mardi manning a year ago the. Jv sports show didn't even exist now. They're celebrating their first anniversary. Finally something good about twenty twenty and keith started stereo movement company. Two years ago with their customers clothing styles in mind they designed for you. 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Ladies and gentlemen the jv sport show begins now here all your co host james movie and still seo. Welcome back to the jv sports show. James booby alongside my broadcast partner vessel. Ezio fits this just in breaking news. The to bracket has been released here in the state of arizona. Cover the games really quick next friday night. All these games at seven pm. It'll be the number one benson hosting renske number five parker at la number. Four number six scottsdale. Prep at number three santa cruz valley. That'll be a good one. Seven saint john's and they are going to travel to scottsdale christian academy to face the eagles of excessive christie kademi under coach nate holtz. He was actually on the show there with On the bracket release show moment goes so there you go the to a bracket been released number one benson number two scottsdale christian number three ranked team santa cruz valley number comes in as a la parker in at number five number six got still number seven. The saint john's redskins and number eight. The wildcats awesome. That'll be exciting. Exciting bracketing for two way. It'd be good to see you know who ends up on top there but Last night james had a chance to call a good game. I out at desert mountain. High school. Scottsdale always was the desert mountain wolves. Tucson south point lancers in joining us online is Wolves head football coach. Conrad hamilton coach hamilton. Good morning sir. Maury how are you. We're great coach. how you doing. You're good it's finished with the guys out here on the bill by the and do the wave but a little break in between so i get a chance to talk to you. Guys boy finished our morning workout. Very you guys faced a a very tough team last night. In the south point catholic. Lancers talk about that squad and talk a little bit about your team's performance last night in the game here you know Picked up the game. I think you know when all the covert stuff you know came about Wanna again where we wanna get to man. We wanna play the best to get to be the best you know. That's all part of the process and trying to climb them out. You know we couldn't bypass opponents. And i think know last night was just a great learning lesson. I open for us for us to to to to go out there and compete with the best man. We have to play our back last night. Whenever it's probably our worst ball game of football that we played On the two thousand twenty on a little bit disappointing but again you know just a learning process but we tell our guys but you learn more when you're celliers successes in life and law cracks and one of those getting access on every play and you know you can't give up big plays or whatever you want to compete with the best guy so again you know. We have a lot of plays out there. We still like You know Unfortunate but you know. We play a good team. Some of that has a lot to you know. The guy to stop went had on the football field. It's harder to talk. Whatever that's pretty talented dough. So kind of one of those deals. But i think we we learned a lot from that and i think it will be better for it This week you know Facing our next opponent in the play off your game is going to be better for sorry events but you're tunes getting better forward as well coach because you're teaching lessons right now that they're going to be able to apply at the high school level the college level at the nfl level. As you've been excel. Excel that as well so i think it's fantastic really instill in the correct values and letting those kids know. Hey you know what we got to win almost the same as we lose we tend to be even keel and work on things. We can improve on and control things that we can control. I mean that's what it's all about man that's the greatest sport in the world of my then so many life lessons daily. You know what. I mean weekly. You know going during the games all those things. So that's why we love the game football we do well and you know and the other thing is when you have sheer disappointment you know when people are like man we should have won that game man. You know. that's what you want because that means you're change in the culture out there. Obviously you don't need us telling you this but you have the foundation that you've developed their coach. I say this. Because i've seen it firsthand in that. Your freshman team finished undefeated. And i don't know the last time that happened out at desert mound that's laying the groundwork for some exciting football in the future and And not only good berkeley gene. That's eight nope i know. Are these four and two will be hosting a playoff game here when the bracket come out. Hopefully that'll be one of the first time that the mountains on that bobby stints no two thousand nine hundred teens in over ten years or so since that's happened so you know we're doing positive things right now. We want to build off of you. Know what we've been doing here Dr top programme and hopefully you know we learned a lot from his last game and you have a lot to improve we all you wanna do man improve every single day you know and i mean we're we're true from the buck chicken that we took Last night we'll look at the things that we did well. And there's things whatever they were forced you need to improve on but mostly it's our energy and intensity and maxim okay. It's south point power. How are we gonna go out there and approach you know. And i don't think in that particular game cower no talent or whatever that we approached that game the way were supposed to to win and compete and after learning lesson for love coach conrad hamilton desert mountain wolves. Thank you so much coach. Good luck on finding out where you guys are going to be playing next week. Hopefully it's at home will look to cover you and we'll talk to you next week. You guys thanks for having anthony in our game. Thank you free games with you about about the boston. It was it was great. Thanks again coach. Appreciate you pal. Have a great weekend and have a great thanksgiving. Yes sir all right joining us online james. We got more more coaches here. We've got tucson south point head football coach. Eric rogers good morning coach. Rogers born in gentleman. How we doing man. Not as good as you. I don't know all. I was really proud of the kids last night. Our coaching staff. The kid came out Just came out of the gate right from the get go and and put a lot of pressure on them. And that's a very very good football team They're very well coached We knew we had a battle in front of us we were. We were playing. We were preparing for a fourth quarter battle about the kids just came out and did a great job last night at your football program. Maybe some of the guys that really help your program. Run your assistant coaches. Obviously you can't do it alone. Maybe some people that just help out the program in general and maybe give them a shot. Well you know. I mean I mean it starts with both of our coordinators Coach solti and i have Been coaching together for for nineteen years and coach and and i We coach together over at pima. College for for a couple of years Coach riding than doing this a long time. He's been the head coach at the high school. Level it starts with both of them Their leadership the way they communicate with the kids Just the way their teachers boost and and they do a great job of just instilling. That intensity Teaching the kids every day The why you know why we're doing what we're doing. I think that's very important and sometimes gets lost In coaching you. Just you're you know you don't have a lot of time and sometimes forget just step back and really explain why we're doing some of the things we're doing so the kids really comprehend and understand so It starts with them but we've been retired coach that we got You know and i really. I'm glad you kinda brought it up. Because i've never really had a chance to talk a lot about them Everything's happened so fast and just playing games and not playing this that but It's just a it's a very A veteran staff coach watson. And you know. I think he's been a. He's our defensive line coach. He's got he's got have ten or fifteen years. The head coaching experience at the high school level. So haven't him that. I can rely on and lean on on things from an administrative standpoint and different things that go on being a first year head coach Has been great for me just to bounce things off and then we've got a couple of guys Coach nolan sweat. Who's coach ten years in the college team and Bring in his concepts and what they're doing so It's a it's an unbelievable staff. Were very blessed. We've got great kids. Great families the administrative support is is unbelievable just to get us out here and letting us play football. I mean at the end of the day. I think that's what i'm most proud of is our kids are getting to play And and there's still a lot of kids that haven't had that opportunity so We we don't take that for granted and We're just were excited to be in the position. We're in right now. I think the kids earned tucson sell point head football coach eric rodgers ranked number two in the state and five a and currently awaiting his which will likely be in the open And and hopefully you saw before spot. Yeah what find out here in the next few minutes. Correct coach Yeah i mean. I'm guessing You know. I think they probably start with a one eight two eight three eight whatever. It is But hopefully hopefully will know something here within the hour. So hey look at coach with the fantastic segway fest. We just got the three a rankings released just a little bit so coach you guys are about to divisions away and we'll be say to there and check out the rankings when they come out so good luck in the playoffs. It's going to be a great battle in their five or the open wherever you guys end up and we appreciate your time this morning. Thank you guys. I appreciate it very much. Great job last night and everything that you guys are doing game me up game is archived. You guys can watch him. We look forward. Maybe we'll we'll come down and do a game for you guys. I would love it. That would be outstanding. We wanna get tucson vince. Obviously you know. When i checked off thursday football our original gain was going to be the battle of the boot. There you go you go now. We'll get down and we'll We we've got a new. A new friend. Coach rodgers will get down there and do game for them. So thanks again coach rogers. Good luck and we'll talk to you sir. Okay thank you very much. Thank you sir. Have a great weekend so james. Let's hear the three bracket yes. Let me pull it up. Sorry i click on the wrong and they're really quickly all juicer. Lucy here three bright okay. So the three state championship is as follows. The number one ranked yuma catholic shamrocks will host number eight thatcher Number five wicket bird will travel down south to push rich the battle the lions number four. Excuse me number. Six round valley will visit. La gilbert north and then the number seven phoenix christian. Cougars will travel to snowflake to face the novi to snowflake is it. The wolves mobile's mobile logo lobos quite awesome listeners. Northeast arizona picks up very close so there. It is three number one yuma catholic number two snowflake number three gilbert north number four pusch ridge number five wickenburg number six comes in with round valley number seven phoenix christian and number eight thatcher. Wow so our goal. James is to get every division covered. I really wanna get a one game. Done in which i think will be the state championship next week. And then i'd like to get a three game and if we do that we covered every division this year. There you go. That'd be exactly right. Vets so secure legit sports show. We got one more segment coming your way. We'll talk with last night's. Mvp of the game between south white and the desert wolves trason bored gay. And then we'll also visit with mariah mora or excuse. Me a risk more from rancho solano volleyball who stay tune. Jv sports show and more coming at you. Go javy carving out time in your afternoon for the doug. Ali show right here on key. Ten sixty one hundred point seventy two key. 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We get an exciting final segment for you here. We are now pleased to be joined by mr trason bored. Gay from the south point catholic lancers He was the mvp of the game. You guys did last night against the desert mountain wolves tracing if doing man. That was quite a game. I got to apologize to you because when we'd listed the nominees for the player of the game last night when i personally type them in and it did the auto fill on i typed your name. It came up as the air and it and it to happen three times i could and i clicked. I clicked it. The first time and take him up is borel aaron. I saw it. And so i tried to type the correction in the responses and it did it again and i caught it and had to manually corrected. So it wasn't intentional. Believe me it was purely accidental that That we did that but anyway. If you wanna change your name bore is open to my last name. So it's nothing crazy thought good. Hey try having. He'll yeah there you go. So how did it feel. That was quite a game. First of all you guys drove two and a half hours and you went up there. You played a game and the game. I mean you've got playmakers all around you but you've you through some really nice passes last night. You took control of that offense and in march thirteen down the field Repeatedly and a nearly pitched a shutout. Thank you yeah. It was a it was quite the game. You know we all week. Do this team was going to be. One of the best person plays They've got a great coaching staff. And a great defense and Overall just a great team we prepared we execute it. And i just got the bottom i receivers and let them do their thing now racing. You are a junior so you're going to be back with south point. Next year you had seven hundred and three passing yards twelve touchdown passes on the season. What are you looking at it. Obviously you're probably wanting to play the next level or are you getting some looks from some schools. Possibly or what do you want to do in your own future. you're looking at. what are you looking at. Career-wise recently discovered committed to the university of arizona Yeah survey down. I've been in close contact with their coaches Ever since the The september first date where they can start contacting us But i ended up getting offered last year last summer And committed this summer. So you know. I'm looking to stay home Building something here in tucson Maybe brings the more arizona athletes with me. And i've got grade Coming to arizona to chandler. The we're just trying to rebuild this program. I would see something you know. The great coaching staff and great talent there already Trying to keep all that in in phase tyler here what what do you wanna do. Let's say let's take football off the table because someday you know we all. We can't play the game forever. But what is your ultimate goal. What do you wanna do You know. I haven't thought too much about that but Anything anything really like My dad he owns his own business. He's the ceo of artificial grass company. Fun so really something like that. Just like owning my own business and just being my own boss You know just doing what. I do what i love to do. Whether that football related or anything Just like us. James exactly football related as we can be right vets trading your own boss. Yeah oh yes well. That's we try to do that. Tracing another question for you. How cool is it to sit back on saturdays. Now and watch bijon robinson. Play football guy. You got the hand of football off to just last year at and play at university of texas. It seems unreal You know being able to play with someone like these on an unforgettable experience But you know seeing him on these saturday's just bawling out doing his thing Seeing him all over twitter custom media kid. Where do you come from like. He's been doing that. He was like ten. So what are you guys. You haven't seen him yet and that was what's exciting trace on is is that you had your hand. The ball off to david cordeiro. You've got julian robots that's a. That's one of your targets. You got cam gambrill that you know that it was exciting. Player elisa rushing defensive lineman. I mean we can go on and on with the guys on your team. You know that that that are there to support you to help you get it done. I mean what. What's the team. Chemistry been like this. You're obviously very good. You guys are undefeated really. This is like a whole brand new. We've got a new staff a bunch of new starters on both sides of the ball but really it's just this offseason and we just grind Throughout this whole covid thing and and just not being able to play football. We still made up at parks. We still where i practice. We were just doing the best we could do for as long as we could And really it paid off and you could tell big time. We'll trace some weeks so appreciate your time this morning. Thank you again for joining us. We appreciate you. And congratulations again on being the game. Mvp from last night's ball against the desert mounted wolves. And we can't wait to see where you guys end up in the playoffs there. That's going to be coming our way about that. Probably within the hour or so so good luck my friend and thank you again for your time. Thank you all right. joining us. On the line rancho solano. Prep girls volleyball coach. Maura coach more their clarify high. So coach we kind of exchanged some Some messages Throughout the week here and talking about the situation as fifteen in to a this year tell us a little bit about your journey and and some excitement off the of some say off the field off the court. Yeah absolutely so yet. Fifteen into we had a great record Last year coming from just a team of six people basically We had a great freshman class. Come in We were able to add comes up to our bench And we had four turnovers three of which were seniors. Who got the years that they deserve. have some an army behind them so it didn't all right on their shoulders did a great support system So it was super exciting to see the program grow the players grow. You wanna talk about growing. You made it. You had a little addition in your family. Yes yeah it was crazy My son eleven days old so in the midst of his great debut. So congratulations sees yeah. That's fantastic so you guys What you'll get future wise. What are some of the players that you have right now. That are going to be coming back and building your program by taking things to the next level. Yeah absolutely number. Ten bella Potosi axes Has been a huge part of this program. She's going to be the only senior that i have next year. She's an outright center. She's running a really fast offense She's proven to be such a threat. I'm so excited for her senior year next year And then believe it or not over half freshman so they'll all be soft ones next year about that. A great years ahead of you to your future. Looks bright at rancho solano. Prepping and unfortunate. You guys got left out of the out of the postseason with fifteen two record. And i don't know how all those formulas i mean that that stuff gets calculated way above my pay grade. Those are people are paying a lot more money than us. So i don't know how that gets bigger but next year. You guys got a lot coming back your stack. You're gonna win in such convincing fashion. That they have to let you into the postseason. The goal ya covid from like you know what everything happens for a reason. I'm excited for the future in the last minute we have here with you. Let's talk a little bit. Invite your coaches us. Insistent coaches made administrations people that you like this Maybe say that. You're thankful for the season thanksgiving vents bill. But not least not go ahead. Yeah my mom was actually my coach. He coach at north west for years. So it was awesome to have her on stuff super thankful for her. Especially you know now that a whole nother human to take care of so. She's been awesome our athletic director. Aaron trig is wonderful He was there for every step of the way. Even with the shutdown. He's been there for the girls just as a restore we have such a great staff at rancho. So i'm very thankful for them. Well rancho solano. Prep head volleyball coach. Rhys more thank you so much marisa and we look forward to circling back with you next year and when you guys are going to be the talk of the town so thanks again and good luck. Congratulations there on the little one youtube. Happy thanksgiving to you and your family by okay. Bye-bye y fifty eight minutes. Go by my friend. What else we got. We got the replay the thursday night football game coming up here in about two minutes on cox four in phoenix and cock seven down in tucson. 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Episode #1439: The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

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Episode #1439: The New Phil Hendrie Show

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My name is Tania, Ted Cruz or Tom Cruise, right? Who who's the guy that just in people wants to kick his ass Tom Cruise? Okay. I'm not him. And you ain't Justin Bieber. I should think not what happened to the music I turn it off. Okay. So we're can turn it on. Now you could say. The hill off, bud. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We've got on the show today. Hello. Dean, how're you doing? I'm fine feel this is this is very interesting. Now then you want someone talking this rubber. Thank you. Dean wheelers with us. I'm sorry. Dean, you're getting a look at us. You're looking at the behind the scenes. Oh, no, it's, it's fascinating. I'm enjoying enjoying eventually you are here because you wanted to talk with us about the horse racing and the terrible. You know, the horse deaths and everything. Yeah, I do. But I wanna put if like is it time filler will let me just get into the show. But dean, it is good to have you with us. We also have on the line with us from western states homeowners association. They're about ready to head on up the hill. As a matter of fact, to, I believe Butler lake. Right. Well, I don't know we're going to have to find out when Bobby and. D d dean, dean, I've seen bobby's husband is. Spy steamed duly, but Steve duly, not Steve, duly, it Steve, duly, and Bobby and Steve, duly, who are hanging out with us. They're at the western states. Bobby doubt, you're still at the western states, right? Yes. Over here until until the weekend or on our way up to butner lake. Now win is the Sematech at a deer. We won't have the summer tackler until probably July this year. I know we had it around the same time that the open the camping up last year. I think we opened the cabin up at did you ask your husband back off the phone. All right. I'm back after what is the story every year, Bobby every time we get not every year, every time you're on the phone with Steve Steve's always misusing the phone. Okay. I'll kinda my team would your back off the phone. Okay. Yeah. We, we have to say this tale time. Everytime. He's trying to blow the phone. He's trying to do what let's best characterize it that way, aren't trying to do right there. Get off the phone, Steve. They're talking about you stuck it off. I'm trying to do it feel, yes. We're gonna go to butner lake. We will not go up to butner until this next weekend, and we're also going to be coming back for the summer tackler sometime in the month of of, of July. Probably July, July is when the but with the butner butner but near this weekend. Okay. Yes, I understand that he gets d Weaver, I haven't had the pleasure to meet you. But I wanted to ask you, some things about a button or link. I enjoyed listening to you. You're very unusual man, aren't you? Well, yeah. I mean, I to the extent that you're, you're unusual to talking about wife. Yes, sir. I'm talking to your wife rank Steve. Yes, we're unusual. But that unusual urine. I don't know. Well, okay. So can I ask you something, I've always wanted to know about your, the homeowners association president since the very time what you got there? Is that right? Are you? Okay. I'll tell you. He asked the question. I heard, yes, I'm flying. Yes. When Stephen I arrived at western state. Yes, I have been the homeowners association president, and that's kind of the way it's rolled out. You know, I'll do it. I'm not really asking your husband these questions. You've been asking you. Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. So you have been the western states homeowner's association. President that's really interesting. How do you keep getting reelected? Because people like what we do for them. They like it's been a really good run people. Enjoy having me, there people need to have I'll do it. That's what I was talking about. There's always, you know, I gotta tell you, Bobby. And you know, I won't this late stage of the game. I'm not going to tell you how to live your life. But, you know, Stephen you have to get coordinated on that phone hated, again fill these all due to your okay. I'm fine. Yeah. Would you guys coordinated on the phone, please? Well, I'm trying to. Yeah. I just, you know, I went got a lotta good. You let everybody know you sound like you've got epilepsy. That sounds like you're you're swelling your tongue. Maybe I got the reason being that I have been reelected year in year out, all for all for low, these many years is because I service the people of western estates. And I'm not saying that in a way that a lot of people, especially people in the Phil Henry show, we'd make that into something dirty, you know. No, I understand that, okay? That's not what I'm saying. No one is made that into anything dirty Bobby on this program this evening or any other types for that matter. I really I take exception to that talking about you on talking about the men. All that. Okay. It's better. What was going on with you go kind of global hit? I know I understand that. I've just brought it to let Dino that, that sometimes people are you talking about us or not. You're talking about the Phil Hendrie show. Yeah. Because I think the tendency on that program is to make it. Oh, a you've been the president of western state homeowners association for so long are you, you know? I'm gonna do it. Okay. Right in the nut sack miss Dooley. I told you heard about you hitting him again. I would call the police. I didn't get me. I did it myself. I don't believe that man about if I have a cop role over there and investigate. Oh, what joining we've been on your show, Phil. I didn't need to start anything you didn't start anything. This has been going on for a long time. I'm telling you, Bobby, you're wearing my patients then with that. Why am I doing? You're hitting him. You're striking them in your sodium Phillies duty-bound to call the police, if you keep that up for men beat women. It is true that men beat women. Do you beat your wife mister Dooley? No see would dearly hand on me, but talking about what are you doing hitting him in the balls off? He did with driver high heel into my nut. I saw your Medicaid is that it did it as she drove a high heel in that area. No. All right. I miss Dewey mister Dooley. Congratulations on a successful summer tackler. I'm sure you're going to have a great one. Okay. No. You're not done yet. But you're this close to me. Call the cops out on you. You call the police on me, Mr. Henry, and I can call the police on you for what you gotta be. It's gotta be something. Oh, listen to you. You cannot you can't call the police. All she all she did Mr. interviews drive, a high heel in another right under the taint area. What are you, what are you some kind of an idiot or something to let her do something like that? Am I kind of let her do something like that? You don't even know. What did you think just I do, I'm going to call the cops, but don't people probably Mr. please. I don't know what I'll do with that. But he goes to like. The knock it off. Okay. Okay. Yes. Okay. I want to be on the show. Now. I wanna hang up. I don't wanna be on the show either. Okay. Goodbye. Are you hanging up? No, I do. I wanna tell you about Butler lake. I we're gonna hang up. Okay, up Dane, if you don't mind. I don't mind at all. It's enjoyable, you can sit and listen to the freak mountin, if you want to do freaks. You know, I got a high here. You know, this whole idea of you drive in a high heel guys taint area. He said, I drove my high heel underneath the scroll the scrotum this grow tomato. Is that what is it? The scrotum skill Phil. Take it easy. So that sounds a little panicky does. No not yet. Mr. Henry you talking about the scrotum is that it, yes, I didn't want beat that graphic. The. Scrotum mata. Technically no, technically, that's not even close to it. Yes. I think you really need to take a chill fill your, your little wound up. Hey, don't tell me a wound up when I'm listened to Bobby duly? Driving. Her high heel into her husband's ball sack for the Delhi thing is funny. Now he thinks it's funny. No, I don't think it's funny at all. So are you guys at where, where are you here in, we're in the common area, an area, western states because it sounds like you got a visiting you'd have to travel in squirrel there. With the traffic's girl this time here, traveled throughout the Golden State. The traveling squirrel gets all over the Golden State by the end of summer. It live put tracks down. Everywhere that this is the traveling squirrel that dean winter dean, the trailing squirrel is in well, the traveling squirrel is in northern California, which is where we're located at, at the holistic center, and then it's also down here in the Garona area. Think Steve bozo has it Mr. Boselli. Got it to Mr. Moselle has got a traveling squirrel. Okay. I like you were talking about a case in the Clapper, something. What are you talking about? What you got it. Steve Bozell has the traveling squirrel on property there. Yes. That's my understanding. All right. And you guys do to western states. Yes. The traveling girl only we don't flipped out on weirded out by it. I've heard Mr. Wheeler, I've heard you and I say this with all due respect, but you really get weirded out in flipped out. Don't you? I don't get flipped out or weirded out. I think you'll my wife Morella has. At Times Express. She hears the traveling squirrel. Get a very riled up. It gets agitated. When it sees me now, what is? What's that about? What is what about why does the traveling squirrel get agitated when it sees you? I don't know. The traveling squirrel. Is it? Just I piss it off. I don't know what it is. Well, what do you suppose that is? I've got a I've got a my Harris died bread. Do you have a red you die? You're not read. Yes. I died by goaty rent. I've got a red mohawk travel scrolls. You're telling me the traveling. Squirrel, is pissed off looking at your bo- hawk. That's died read, I think, so. Yeah because I don't understand it. Why is it bothering bozo? I think it bothers Steve Bozell because Bozell is just, you know, by matter of suggestion, he's heard best with can I be graphic? Mr henry. You want to be graphic about what use of language. That's applicable, Steve Boselli has heard the traveling squirrel. Fuck with me. Okay. All right. Yeah. No. And so decides that it can fuck with him. I can tell you something right now to use to the language you're using no traveling. Squirrel is gonna fuck with me the truth to let me tell you. I'm a woman I'm willing to stick a high heel and hasn't that area. Art can we get off that now? All right. I'm sorry. But, you know, all right. So the traveling squirrel is, is in California. It's traveling from town to town. I guess, yeah, it travels from town to town, this kind of year, and it goes everywhere from northern California. I went down to southern California, but Bobby you or not. Bobbing. It's in the trees that we've got a fair infestation. You know. The station that traveler, but he's got bothering us too much. I want to talk to dean Wheeler here. Bobby and Steve, you're welcome due to hang with us here as we talk to dean Wheeler. And by the way, dean, what are you doing here in southern California? Well in southern California, I'm visiting a couple of friends investors, the Wheeler resort and one of them is emerald is brother and a couple of members of her family. They invest in our the Wheeler resort as well as the Nevado the holistic center in Nevada and man camp that band camp is quite controversy. Listen it. No. It's not. Controversial. Why do you say that? What you've had guys that I was, I was not a prisoner of war. And my understanding is your man camp is. Patterned. Yeah. It's designed after a prisoner of war camp to the extent that there is a bungee pits. What is the bungee pick a blend g pit is a pit the group? Bundy pits had bungee stakes in them. Oh my God. No. But this one has just foam rubber steaks, and it nothing that's going to hurt you Cabot. You're trying to make it into some kind of the guy's escaped this camp. Well you're you're allowed to leave the camp, if you can get out in the middle of the night, and avoid the bungee pit, but really the bungee pit is the problem with that isn't so much. The foam rubber stakes at the bottom, which is all a gag, it's and they're, they're actually Nerf stakes. You know, even a nurse steak like a big like made out of the same material Eisner football. Yes. Exactly. All right. But the bungee how deep is the bungee pit see. That's the thing. They fall in that don't take. Yes. They do. And people in the bungee pit and they fall. I've heard I've been awake in the middle of the night. I'm going over books and I'll hear a guy out there here. Here, you know, and I'll go yeah. Bungee pit swollen up another one. I told you about Mike dean fill that was your neighbor who wind up suing you. Right. Well he you know, he thought he was going. He thought he was going to get tough. But what does that mean you do? Let him sue or. No. I did not let them SUNY. I said, you're not going to sue me because I happen as. You do some stuff about Nubia. Yeah. How did you find out to read some of the correspondence? What are you where did you get off? What are you talking about? But I read court view, Senate to the show because you wanted us. All that's right. This guy Mike. The is this the guy that. What did he do? I said, I had a man camp where I said, I think it's time for all of us to feel when a woman feels when she is humiliated. And I said, I think it's time for all of us to know what it feels like to get felled up. And he immediately. Decided that that was the time in the place. He was sitting in the front row. And I was wearing a pair of shorts with just mesh underwear and, and then tried to grab it. Yeah. He he, he reached. He reached for the mesh netting of my underwear and my both and a bull. Your bowl is evident the bowl was. Right. One of the balls was right there. Okay. Well, there you go laughing. Mr. Jauregui that encourages you laugh. Okay. So the guy you. So what does that got to do with anything? That's when he decided he was going to sue me. And I said, well, he was gonna Sumi because he fell into the bungee pit. Oh, that's right. All right. So this Mike dean of the bungee pit trying to escape one night. Yeah. This guy was trying to escape your man camp. Yes, he was trying to escape band camp. He said it was assuming said, well turnaround, sue you, the lawyer. A guy by the name of dick Naylor said, yeah, we'll just call this one the ball the ball's in your net. And I said, what I said he said, cheer testicle, and I said, yes, well, it's in your net. I said, well, what's that? Got to do with anything and I started I have questions ready. Go ahead, Steve. Steve, duly, hi. Hi, I'm you said the ball's in your net. You're talking about the, the national, the Nash metting. Yeah. I was talking about the niche of the underwear when the guy reached for my bull is this guy is a sexually harassing guide. No, Mike is straight. But I said at this man can't class it's time for us to know what it's like to be a woman, and we should all know what's like to get filled up. No, you want it to be felt did you want to be felt at were you inviting this? No, I was not I handed a I'll go through it again. I had on a pair of swimming trunks and that. I forgot I didn't change out of them. I was going to change out of them. And then go immediately to the class. I was teaching side, just where the swimming trunks and my bulls were hanging in the beat a little graphic here. Yeah. I think that we can say that your testicles. All right. My testicles are hanging in the netting of these doesn't make it any better. No. I done this. So why don't we just move on from this dean whalers? I thought dean was gonna come on and talk about the horse racing. He is. And we also have Bobby and Steve, duly with. We're doing a new kind of format. I guess where we have all of our guests at once sitting here and weighing in, and we're happy to have Bobby and Steve, they're gonna tell us a little bit about the, the. Talk about her attacker, and going there. But I first Wheeler, by the way, why, and I don't have a problem why Spain just to go first again because that's the way we decided necessarily, there's no real reason. Phil just felt and having dean, come on. I would be better. I actually Bobby to be honest with you, you and Steve, generally a very, very strong strong guests and we leave you to the list. Oh boy. Nothing against you dean. Well, it's things a little bit. Well, it's not a big big criticism of you Dane. But it does it's things a little, so let's bring dean on. The guy who had his balls hanging there in the netting. No, no. That's not why. And okay. So I, I did want to mention something if I could misery about what Mr. Wheeler is talking about. Go ahead. I was adjusting body. And I were with the boys we were butting her lake, and it was last, I think it was last year. Oh my God. That's right. We re pad, we just had breath cast, and we just had Costa Ted and I was ingesting the but the boys boogie, the by was just in the boogie boy board. Boy, you were just in the boys, boogie board job is adjusting, the boys, boogie boards on the roof of our car. And, you know, we have we got the Camry the duh? They've got the dodge Camry. I forget what, what do we have if he and I can't Connecticut, Lincoln navigator, dodge Camry? I don't know what kind of car we have you got Lincoln navigator. We gotta Lincoln, Abby. And so I was just in the point board. If you say that, again, duly there, he goes, again, threatening. I don't like it when the. General. Right. But every time the boys boogey-boards, okay? Yeah, I got it. All right. I'm not on the radio everyday like you are talking. I understand. It's okay, did you was going to be addressed to me, a little bit to do with you showing you're showing your, your testicles hanging in the netting of your? I didn't do that on purpose. I want people to understand that, that was not my intention my intention, I was teaching a class and I had not changed that at my swimming trunks and I've been doing some laps. Okay. I've been doing some laps in the salt water pool. Okay. All right. And I decided, we'll go directly to the class, and we were doing a man camp class on women, and how they are mistreated and we wanted to make sure that we knew what it was to be filled up. Did you wear that netting? That was gonna be my question. Did you wear that kind of netting to, to what Phil you're not seeing he's trying to attract being filled up? I don't know. Are you putting me on her something? I had, it was a swimming pair of swimming trunks. Okay. Try to tell me I've got my Bose hung out of why don't you use the word testicle, please? I'm sorry. My testicles hung out of it on account of the netting slipped out the one side, that well, see. That was what I was gonna be got a story about that. You want wanna hear it? Okay. All right. I'm just but I know I didn't do it on purpose. I think that's very really, we don't meet a cues you. But just as a question we to have answered. Yeah, if you're talking about being filled up right? I understand that. But no, I didn't walk into that. With by bull hanging in that one piece of knitting. In other words, you didn't push your bulls out of one side of the swimming trunks to be very evident there. No, I did not what don't we do it here? We just trying to make it worse. Mike. God. I you know, I'm trying to having say, I wanna say about button lake and I'm listening to the people talking about push the testicles. Air. Here's a story that I had I was just in these boy. I'm sorry, I'll, I'll do it. Right. I was just in the boogie board on top of the boy, car. You know what do you do that on purpose? No, sir. I am not. You are just in the boogie boards for the boys on top of your car yesterday. That was it and I reached up, and as I reached up and extended I was wearing the same kind of swimming trunks. Mr. Wheeler, I thought you were going to say I'd see people have had the same experience. If you wear these swimming trunks with the netting, and you don't have no underwear on underwear. Those kind of swimming trunks. No, you don't. But it's a very delicate situation. I strive stretched over and Bobby said she was the first one to say Steve, I can see both of them and they're pushing out one side. What do you mean both both of your testicles? Yeah. And they were in. They were they were there in the basket. They were basket, the testicles were basket in the, in the mesh, but they had they, they shoved out one side, and we're dangling. And that's what I said Steve, okay? You got a full mesh dangle going is this, some kind of, what does this code that you guys practice? I came up with just came up with right now. Then in there, I understand what you mean by full mesh dangled out. Exactly. Yeah. So, and then I turned, and I saw Caroline Booker. I thought Bob Baker and I saw bad Bronson and, and Bob Baker, and they were all looking at Steve's both. I've been testicles in this, mesh netting with the look on their faces like is this. Are you for real embarrassed about it? And that's bad. That bigger been said either he gets those out of my face right now. Okay. Or I'm gonna call a penalty for traveling. And I think that. Say told out of the bull, they should be them. Bad that who bigger book Booker men and a bunch of people were, they're coming out of a tad's. Understand. It's a tough one. Well, they're not very good swimming trunks to wear in public. That's for sure. All right. So what we were gonna talk about here. I'm sorry. Mr. Henry, what we were going to talk about here was we're gonna talk about the Breeders Cup. And instead of talking about you, the mesh netting in your underwear. I mean I it's my fault. Did we sort of did put, you know extended, so why don't we get into what it was gonna talk about here? That's the horse racing. And dean, you have some feelings on that. Are we going do to topics to on account? He gets to obviously you can you just hold on. We're trying to get this done, and I can answer the question at a later moment, maybe baby during a commercial break. You just said, Betty, Rubbi, I did not call her Rubbi. I said, excuse me, Bobby, wait a minute. Wait Bobby, what was your question? I'm arguing to get to do to topics. No. Unfortunately, this is what happens in a live setting. Sometimes we are just doing more than one topic. We're going to talk to you, and we haven't talking to you about some of this other stuff having to do with your husband's testicles in mesh netting underwear, whatever it is bathing sense. It was a bathing sense, food, we also had to deal with you sticking your high heel up on your husband teases. You know, this is I don't know how fill is able to keep it together with so much raunchy stuff on the air. It's a good thing. We're not other radio anymore with as an F. C C. Yeah. Jesse see if you're for sure. All right. I'm sorry about that. But I wanted to know well, hold on. Thank you very much. Bobby will take it under advisement, Dane. And you told me to hold on now. You can talk. Right. I'm a I'm a very, very much an animal rights advocate. I, I love animals. I have pets. I've got two dogs and a cat and emerald. And I have loved our beagle. Toby one, we had Toby one and Toby, too. And both Toby one until be two died. And now we've gone back to be one. Some people think it's kind of funny, why, why do to Toby ones when you already had a to one it's just a let let's, let's just let it be. It's just something you wanted to do. We lure animals. And I stand second to no one. In my disgust and my horri-, what's happening at San Nita. But, but because I mentioned you fill, we're down here because we want to attend a couple of the races at Santa Anita to see a horse that my brother has running a horse by the name of bygones. Be bygones. This is a horse. It's going to be racing. Yes. And the families invested quite a bit in this horse. And we wanna see this horse run. And then I can take part in the that's the thing about you. We don't wanna get you don't wanna get involved in the protests. Get your money back say that again, you don't wanna be invoked. You don't want to be involved in the protests that till you get your money's worth. What about the dean, I this is a worse that my brother invested. Let, bygones be bygones out of Catherine the silk and king. Yeah. Okay. So lizard, two very good horses out of I mean, it was sired by, and the and the mayor against out of Catherine the silk, and it sired by king. Yeah. Okay. I don't know with these horses. Well, let me tell you something, they're pretty good. I don't know about these are these are the horses. Yes, these are the, the game versus the horse which the horse don't know what you're worth my horse. I'm to be betting on. But let bygones be bygones and you want to run this horse. Even though you know other horses have died because it's important. Yes that no more horses can diet, Santa need. I don't wanna see that. But I gotta get my money's worth. I invested a good probably the three of us kids. It's a syndicate. Okay. Now what do you mean by syndicate? I mean, it's, it's a bunch of people bought it. Yeah. A bunch of us bought it by myself. I went with my brother and his wife and. An emerald Morelli use some of her own money. So I'm into this thing for around fifteen thousand and I'm all I'm asking is that I be allowed to recoup my money. Oh, you want to recoup your money. Even if the horse is running injured is this horse, roaming injured or not? Don't ask me. I don't know. You have no idea. No, I don't, and I don't want to know and why don't you wanna know if you did know you might have to take a stand, I what are you talking about? If you knew that the horse was injured this course that you're you're betting on bygones, be bygones, would you want it to run? I don't know that it's injured if it was injured. Would you want it to run if it was injured? I would want to have the jockey and the and the Taylor Taylor Taylor trainer. The trainer way in on it. If the horse is injured, would you still work up to push that horse out onto the track and have that horse run? I gotta get my money back. You don't have to stay. Why is it so important for you to get your money back because I'm supposed to take my wife Morella the kind of police weeks next month? Oh, and you don't have the money to you. Got a maximum credit card boil boy, this is the second time in this show. The last, I'd say sixty days that some guy's head to get his mitts on some money because he promised a big vacation as somebody, and it's going to being someone is going to have a bad time. This is being. This means humans duly, don't, don't talk to me, when you don't even know how to talk good. I can talk this means that horse is going to suffer about a horse. About a horse suffers you go to poly. I my wife Morella is everything to me. She's the number one there, isn't a horse there isn't a trumpet player as around s the Trump players of the bay area. How does it feel to be an emerald wheelers band with her husband, there, will your blow on your horn right into her buttock? You know, something I heard about, you know, I know who you are. You're really weird. He's not weird. He's saved. This is true. I was, you know, I I've talked to people have been in the clip. You better believe it. I've talked to people have been a club. And that's what these trumpet players do you do in their Boehner Hornets at your wife at the at your wife, but yes at my wife's but what I'm saying is this? I worship the ground my wife walks on, and you're willing to risk the life of your horse, so that you get your money's worth out of this horse so that what are you stand to win? We stand to win a maiden person above twenty thousand dollars. All right. Dean don't whine about it. I'm not whining. I people wanted to stay. End. There's humans and there's horses, and humans are higher up are higher are way higher up. No one makes you think are higher up. Are you kidding humans? Don't how to talk we know how to think we build. We built we drive cars, all of that stuff. All right. So because unions in other words are intelligent creatures that can drive a car, we have more value than a horse. I didn't say that. I'm just saying that it's, it's important for me to recoup my money and get a piece of that twenty thousand dollar purse because I'm going to take my wife to the police suites. Police within its in Maui. Yeah. It's in Maui. Wait, better believe it. Sweet pretty nice. Thank case time up there. That's, that's really great man kinda Polly's beautiful and all that stuff. But we're talking about something, perhaps greater on the moral scale. And that's the, the wellbeing of these horses. Are you talking about this? I'm here to tell you, I care about animals, but I care about you care about your marriage. I care about my marriage. Yeah. And so you're going to save your marriage. But this trip to cut a poly and a horse could die. Well, if the worst dies, I don't think that'd be winning any person money, and I won't be able to take her to kinda paulie. Oh, yes. But the horse is definitely not going to win if it does die. And it could die by you, sending it out onto that track. I'm nuts. You're taking the, the trainers recommendation. Yes, damn, I went to quit crying clan. Right my year. Mr. can I move but can't Cleef? Oh, yeah. Right. Like I'm quite right your ear couldn't do that kind of man's here. I'm not trying to get you. People understand something then moved to Serie. No. You may not sit there be a gentleman dean sorry to hear about that. But I may I recommend that if you know that this animal is injured. I don't know if you answered the question I don't know. And I don't want to know. Okay. You don't know and you don't wanna know. No, I don't. All I want to know is when they're going off third race Saturday. So there you are. And if the horse dies so be it if the horse dies. I don't win if the horse dies you don't take Miranda to kinda Polly. No, I didn't see that. What you have to max out a credit card. You'll just have to max out a credit card. Well, what did you match the credit card out now and forget about running the horse, excuse me, Mr. Henry, no one talks to me. Let no one talks to dean Wheeler like I am a guy who is standing there, and I've got a mop, and I've got a bucket, and I'm looking at my feet, and you're telling me all about how it's going to be carrying your slept. Yours. Don't make people feel as if they're carrying your slop jars are you doing strategy? No. I am not deemed have fun with your wife would Kana Polly. If you are going to max out a credit card, it seems to be you don't have to get any money out of this horse. You can let the horse rest and perhaps, he'll, I don't know that it's, it's sick. But if it was you wouldn't want to know about it. You'd want that horse to run. I want the horse to run. Yeah. So, yeah, so you wouldn't have to max out your credit card. You know, I come on this program, and you I looked so forward to be in here. I was driving down with my wife. I was going to fill Henry show. And now all I want to do is run away from here. I want to run away and throw up. I want to run away and throw up. I wasn't runaway throw up. I just heard him say that. Yeah, what do you want to throw up? I want to run away and go. Well there he goes. Dean wheeler. On the world famous Phil Emery show. Bobby and Steve. Thanks for being with us. You know, this isn't exactly been very pleasant for f- either because we've been sitting here and you've been telling me about traveling squirrels, and, you know, kicking my husband with a high heel in the nut in, in the in the in the taint under under nut. Not right. All right now. Why don't we change it up and ask you about butter lake? You're going to button her. Right. We're Buckner lake. Oh, yes, yes, we're gonna butter this week and. Oh, my is that him. Dean. Dad Gibson since we'll get some water get him some water, Bobby very bizarre. I understand Bobby going to Butler lake this weekend. Yeah, we're going up to Buckner our summer tackler. We'll be in mid July. But we're opening up our new cabin at the cool. Oh, cutoff right across the cooler, Jenny. And the goblin runoff got the goblin cutoff. Where is the Dublin cutoff associated with the or in comparison to the cool? Oh, cutoff and actually Google, you know, you know, general yes you. Can't tell you who know cut off is adjacent to goblin, cutoff, goblin, goblin cut off the goblin flat. Okay. I don't know where any of this. Is you guys have got to come up feel. You gotta do broadcast. I've been telling you and telling you I wanna do it. Can we do it from Ted's know tat doesn't want any podcasters? He doesn't want anyone in there. I told you know, where do we do it from our cabin or Kevin mystery for the nine hundred fifty eight million time. Okay. That's fine. I just thought you know, I mean I got a cruel people, we want to eat we want drink. Well, okay, so go by your booze. You've thought maybe we could. If we could do it never mind, forget it. Pets back in a search for free. I'd not expected him to I just thought maybe it'd be more comfortable. Okay. So Bobby, you're at your new cabin. You've had it remodelled. Yeah. We'd had a remodel. We set fire to two summers ago bar to then we Bernie, other, we burn the other cabin down. Right. And we saw piggy posted pictures of that. How is he he's doing fine? I'm sorry. I ran away thirteen. I'm sorry. I ran away. Sorry man. Dean Williams is with us here guarantee. I'm sorry, I ran away everyone. We heard you the first time. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's okay. Dean, sit down man. I'm sorry. I ran away eighteen. Don't say that anymore. Okay. We know you're sorry, ran away. You didn't run away to throw up throw up. Got head to throw up so much so very much. So anyway, we're talking with Bobby and Steve, duly about button or lake. I want to go to Butler lake so much I need the refreshment. I need the fresh air, Terry, the Air's very clear up there. Dean, unfortunately it PR. It pr-. They probably don't have any cabins for rent. I don't know not that they don't have cabinets ran. Dean, we need. We kinda wanna take a step back. Are you the kind of guy that we need in the Kim the town in the village? Who are you guys to make that judgment? There's a good question. Yeah. Big dick and goes, they want to, I don't care. They can judge me. I don't care. I want to be acceptable. You're going to be acceptable. Yes, I do. Anyway, I really do. Anyway. That's great dean. So Bobby, you guys are going to be at Butler lake. There's the cool. Oh, cutoff counter. Cut off, is where our new our cabinet located credit crashing coudl cut off. And then there's of course, the Kudo Jenny. So we're across the water where a cost of channel from glue jetty right next to cut off. And we had the house remodeled and we're gonna fire damage that you have an extensive fire damage in the kitchen because I had set fire to the kitchen and Steve with up. The kitchen with the fireworks. But kids have part of the kitchen. The fireworks set fire delivering with fireworks to. Yeah. And then I said, find if I if I find the fire. I started firehouse the firehouse. You set fire to your use at fire to yes, I said fine living room with the, the big long. What are those calls? Oh, the fireplace badges. You had a big long matches. So you had your kids with fireworks in the house. Get listener, give us the lecture, general, the Bobby have you gotten a lecture from the from the fire captain the fire captain the fire department. Well, I mean, we talked to fight apartment and they asked us how it happened. I said that looks to me like, it's probably arson, you know. And they said, no, it wasn't. It was caused by fireworks by your kid. I. Okay. That's my mistake and your mistake and they bought that. Oh my God. You sound like this. You went. It sounds like you had to rapidly ascending and descending funnels of gas in your thoughts. I guess. I did not view to set fire to your own cabin with the health of your sons and you try to sell that to the fire chief, as arson I wasn't trying to sell it. That's why is it? So I honestly thought I don't think that I understand what the Dooley's are coming from. This is dean Wheeler, by the way, Phil. I know I just want everyone. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I ran out and vomited. It's okay gain. All right. I want the Dooley's to know I know how that feels when you set fire to something and burn to the ground. I mistakenly set fire to our holistic center, and I was trying to get to put it out. I was by myself, I had a garden hose, and it was very difficult women. You, you set fire to the to the holistic settlement when was this, it was about four or five years ago? Yeah. And you were trying to put it out. You were trying to put a garden hose. Oh, you can't do that note. That's what I found and I couldn't put it out with a garden. And that's when I said, just that's what I said on the curb. And I looked at it. I said. Burn god. Please burn. I prayed for it to burn. I wanted I said God damnit it burn. I was I was very destroyed. So body. I can understand you doing the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. And the reason why I wanted it to burn is like, see all of this stuff. The kids were bothering me Steve. You're hidden up on that next door. Neighbor? What a pig. She was a nice, but she had a big ass on her. Felt so wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hold on. You let your cabin burn 'cause you're jealous of another woman. Wait a minute. Wait Bobby, you, you watch the cabin burn you relate to what dean saying because your kids were bothering you because my kids were acting like little whom against like little Indians, you know, here we are butting, Allegra, Indians, used to run free. And there were where my son's acting like Indians, I might as well just go and, and, and, and they shoot me with an air or something. How it comes around that way. Yeah. Real funny. How it comes around that way. Can I squish go ahead? How much longer is this going to be? I don't know why. Because my daughter's picking me up, we're going to you're going to go to with. We're going out to dinner, you can leave anytime you want. I don't what kind of a route to ask. We're the middle of the show. You asking me that? Yes. General, you when you hear is I know what I did duly. This is Bobby. I'm not duly doing Steve. Sorry. So, okay. I don't know where we are here talking about my wife the way you are saying that she didn't like that, that lady next door. Yeah. So you set fire to the cabin. I set fire. No. I didn't I set fire to the cabin by accident with the big long matches. The boys had already set fire to it with the fireworks, where were the boys, whatever kind they were visiting friends. They set fire to the cabin. Yeah. They set for to the cabin with theraworx. And then you did with the big long matches but by then they were going. Yeah. And I got to thinking about this, but women next door what's her name Judy? Gleason. And they had pulled in the night before she's in these skin tight shorts with the biggest but you ever saw. I mean, but she had big okay? So I was nice door. My husband hitting on her. I didn't I wouldn't anything, you're tell you how to Boehner. All right. Look at blitz that talk, like this, damn, Mr. this is why I went out and vomited. Where are you going? Now, I have the bomb it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry when a lightweight. So anyway, this big Afrim is check. And I finally said, burn to burn, and I prayed for and I stood in the street just like ruby Dee and in in, you know, do the right thing, and I'm going, let it burn, burn and a dance we're gonna. Bobby's going? Yeah. Hey hop it around. And everything is all go see it. Go see this is a bad idea. I'll say it's a bad idea. Oh, your voice crack young went bad ID, general there. Yeah. He's here. Listen. You. Okay. I would not do this panel arrangement anymore. Bobbie dooley. And Steve, duly with us about Butler lake though. I don't know that we talked to me history about your life, you're talking about later, you can be on other time. Talk about cool Miller about Kulu cut off and everything. Yeah, we'll do that. And we had dean Wheeler on to talk about this horse. Let bygones be bygones and whether he would bet on the horse if it was injured, but he would let the horse run if it was injured all kinds of stuff in there down, he has done is emerald with you. Hey dean Philly sick. I don't give a damn Zimmer old with you. Yes, she is. So they're down here to bet on this horse at Santa Anita. Meanwhile they've had more worse as diet sanity. It's a mess. Man. Thank you, Bobby. Thank you fail. And I wanna thank everyone out there, Bobby and Steve duly here. Dean wheeler. General daughters outside. I'm sorry. Didn't mean do I thought she'd arrive in time. And she has. Yeah. And a Robert, bud taste Mr. for everything. Sure this has been the world famous Phil Emery show here at, filling show dot com. A couple of program notes for your number one where you're going to have our Vernon. Does your marathon, the forty eight hour Vernon does your mirth on June twenty second and twenty third June twenty second and twenty third? That'll be the Vernon dosier marathon here at the world famous Phil Hendrie show website. Also, we have a cameo channel if you want me to do a cameo for you. You can go over to cameo dot com forward slash Phil for real. L. F. O. R. E. A L. Let's cameo dot com forward slash Phil for real to do a cameo for you. And let's see. Oh, yes. Stonewall we're going to be in New York City for the nursery of stonewall. Stillwell. What is still? Stovall is the gay club that time the we don't want to say is the gate nightclub stonewall of is the gay bar. Yeah. The gay nightclub that essentially. Rose up in a position to a police raid, which was a harassing raid. The police had done this, the New York City police had done this in those days, a lot, a harassing the gay guys. The place was mobbed up so they wanted to try to get their pay off from the for them. I was very crooked thing and the stone will patrons essentially would not allow the police to, to raid the place. In fact, they didn't allow the police at one point to get out of the bar. They had pin them inside the bar. It could have been a very devastatingly dangerous night. It wound up. Not. So although there were some, some of the men, some the gay men from that nightclub in subsequent nights who died or very seriously injured. So, so this is the fifth year anniversary fifty year anniversary of what many people consider to be the founding of the gay liberation movement, which eventually became the gay rights movement. It's a it's a very interesting history, the history of gay people in America. The history of the gave moving lesbians and, and, and even transpeople transgender people how all of that, how all of those folks survived and lived and thrived eventually and, and came to that point nineteen sixty-nine where they decided that they wanted to have the rights that everybody had how that happened and we're going to go to New York and be there for that. Well, I if you're in New York I to be there for that good. You're welcome to buy your own plane tickets. You gotta be put me. No, Margaret, I don't get. I'm paying my ass. New York, not anybody else's. All right. We've got the money now. Like we don't have the money. Good. All right, folks. That's where that's at world-famous Phil Emery show here filling reshow dot com. The world famous villages shows executive produced by Phil Henry for separate rated all rights reserved on podcast. One. See, you guys tomorrow night or tomorrow. Dean. Dean willard. I'm sorry.

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Mike Dooley | The Rat Race is Canceled

You Can Heal Your Life

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Mike Dooley | The Rat Race is Canceled

"Hello everybody. It's read Tracy. Welcome back to the you can heal your life. We're continuing our thirty days and thirty Hay house authors. And today. We're going to talk to Mike Dooley and Mike Dooley's a house author for quite a while. Now I'm sure many of you know who he is He was featured in the secret. He also is known where we knew them from really was is tat dot com his notes from the universe and I know so many of you get his notes each day just like I do how you doing. Mike. Hey read. I'm as good as could be expected and and honestly I'm better than that. I'm actually making the effort and sometimes it requires that to see the silver lining and maybe even better see the whole thing as as the blessing. It really is this quarantine this pandemic which you know is not what our physical senses are showing us but we're being called to go within and see what we don't normally recognize so thanks for asking. That's for sure. And where are you? Are you down in Florida or are you somewhere else? No I'M IN FLORIDA BY LAW. Not Allowed to leave my home. I'm working from my home. Normally I work in an office across town away so that's taken a tiny bit of adjusting but I certainly cannot complain and be Year like a lot of people your home with your your family your young daughter and your wife and it's A. It's a little different than when you're used to go and do an office on my gosh is so different and I knew it would be distracting. It's even more distracting than I thought. But it's also so powerful to be around the love of my wife adoring is of my daughter and I think that actually makes up for my lost productivity otherwise. I have less hours to work but I get more done during those hours that I do work. That's what I think. A lot of people are running into that definitely people are seeing Some changes but some of the benefits of those changes for a lot of people. I know this isn't the case for you or me. But they are getting to miss out on a long commute to work so they're actually have a lot more time in there'd Oh even me. I have an hour and a half more time every day because of that commute well. I didn't realize you come on Mike when you have your own company or office near Your House. What was thinking but yeah so that you have an extra hour and a half so there you go if you if you're playing with your daughter for an hour and a half a day that doesn't even use up any of your time. That's so true and You know you're right when you say that in and I'm experiencing you know actually a sense luxury and I'm not diminishing the fact that there's fear and pain in many corners of the world wide scale but we each have to begin with where we are right now and I often told readers and audiences when the unexpected happens. The can't otherwise be pinned to obvious thoughts of your own as a co-creator then there's the invitation tonight. Explain what just happened that you are being affected by but look to see what the side effects are. What is this pandemic making possible right now in each listeners life that would not have been possible before good bad and ugly and I think therein lies the answer to to why we are all participants of this? I think we all needed kind of to look within to change our priorities. I mean the pictures around the world read of clean water in the canals of Venice and clean air around the Taj Mahal before and after pictures I've seen on the Internet are just shocking and it's only been a couple of weeks and I think we all were missing a beat in our priorities to allow ourselves to to become blind to some of the things that are simply more important to everyone. That's for sure I mean there's definitely I mean as what some of US There's definitely some struggles people are going through and some but there's definitely huge benefits especially for the environment like they showed China before and after like or before and then during their two or three months that they were shut down and the huge difference it was for pollution and they do thirty percent of the pollution in the world. So that's a heat reduction and and for America. Obviously we're big polluters as well and that's GonNa have a huge impact now that eighty percent of the country's in their house so absolutely it's the beginning. I tell my readers and my video audiences. This is the beginning of a great healing contrary to the physical senses end all the broadcast. This is not the beginning of great sickness Sometimes you've gotTA take a couple of steps backwards before you take great big leaps and bounds. Forward and I think this is exactly what's happening and seen from that perspective which I do believe is a truthful one. These are exciting times to be alive. And an I urge everybody to literally started journal digital or pen and paper and start mapping out the best of your life you have this chance whereas before we were all on the treadmill and we were all running in the rat race trying to put out fires trying to be everyone to everything to everyone. And now it's been mandated You know whether by the government or our common sense to just stop that. Stop it and use the time that you wouldn't already otherwise have to to be grounded. In truth I tell. People read a lot of Hay House books suggestion Mike at hey by the way we just launched a brand new. Hey how's out? It's called hey house unlimited and you can get access to every. Hey how's audio ever created for five dollars a month so thirty thousand hours of audio's five dollars? We're trying to help people with your suggestion. Yeah well that makes it a lot easier and we need that you know and I say house books not because I'm part of this amazing family but because I view read and you know my work I view that in life there is always a true not different truce. There are different pads to the truth and every pat needs to be honored. But I don't believe that there are different truths you know. Life IS BEAUTIFUL. We are powerful. We're attornal beings time and space is an illusionary playground to kind of have adventures fall in love and be loved and when we lose sight of the truth we have these klag. Myers we slip and fall. We get a sickness we have pandemic because of the confusion not because God is angry or certainly no judgment or punishment and through the slip and fall and the opportunity creates for recovery. We can use that time. Best to get grounded in truth to uncover what it is as I was just saying that life is beautiful. It's a gift we chose to be here and by by meeting. Hey health books for example. Not because I'm part of the family but this is one of the greatest collections. I'm sorry of the sounds like Promote Promo one of the greatest collections of authors and speakers who understand I guess if you will the the language of ancient history whether it was biblical or Buddha or they were all saying the same things because there is this truth. And I've been enriched by other. Hey House books. I've been honored to contribute. And whether it's hey house or you know anybody else's favorite Spiritual publisher there. Is it true drill down to it? It will set you free. Yep that's for sure and yeah in the in the new APP obviously all. Mike's Books are in there. So if you want to listen to any that's your chance. There's even a seven day. Free trial period. You can listen for free and get get some inspiration in there. You can listen to beginner's guide to the universe. Get it all started right now. What I was GonNa say is like you know as people are seeing changes. They WANNA make in their lives through all this. I'm sure a lot of people are or like you said finding your truth like how. How can people start to make some of those changes that they're noticing? They should be doing or want to do well apart from reading. And that's just one way and apart from scanning the Internet with you know ideal buzzwords joy and happiness and action steps to take now I think journaling is a really great way of tapping into our higher selves and people. Ask me all the time. Do I channel the universe? Do I channel like Esther? Channels Abraham Jane Roberts Channel Set. It's like not in the same way I don't just close my eyes and spit it out. But we are all channels twenty four seven of our higher selves. Even this conversation read. I'm channeling my spirit is using my physical body in vocal cords to communicate with you your channeling to me and in through the practice of journaling. Much like meditation. Although usually meditation is not frequently done with a question journaling. You can pose a question and immediately since you're expressing your inner spirit through simply asking the question you develop a faculty of reaching higher and higher into your own consciousness for the most profound answers and I've never fail to impressed by the stuff if you will that I get when I'm vexed when I'm hurt when I'm sad when I'm spinning my wheels if I can stop and type out a question on my digital journal or spell it out long hand a pen and paper and I start answering myself you know. It always feels like well. I'm just making that up but if I if I just give it a little bit of time I start writing more and more like Dang that was. That was a great answer. Just the way I write the notes from the universe. I always start out with no idea. Other than my end result of euphoria. No idea of what I'm going to write about and I'll just write the first words that come into my mind. They are absolutely awful. Edit delete custom cut and paste cuss a little bit start writing again and within a half hour to a couple of hours. Some take that long. Suddenly it's like. Oh Gosh that is so good and if I could add I recently interviewed Neil Donald Walsh and I asked a question about his conversations with God on dialogue has been memorialized in books. I said how do you know it's not your imagination. And it was clearly a question. He's posed to God before he's like he said. Who's to say? God wouldn't use your imagination to reach you. He's he. She is constantly reaching you in any way shape or form that it can. And so if you dedicate some time through enter any inter-modality including journaling. Why not you're opening the door and since it was being knocked on before by your higher self and you were ignoring it the god of yourself. This is an opportunity for it to come through and yet your imagination is pure God. It's God playing as we are all got playing. So that's one of the key things Setting aside that time books journaling daydreaming. Walking meditations or one of my favorite you know and it's astounding when we create the space what comes through. And how do you do walking meditation? Well there's something I call a contract. You don't close her eyes during a walk. Point typically in my limited experience with meditation. There's the suggestion that you know you completely still your mind. You stop the thought process as much as possible with lots of forgiveness and leeway your gentle with your style self but at least stop the chatter if not stop the words being formed. So that you're just aware and you're just like this deeper and deeper state which I personally have found very frustrating and in my own reading and dwelling within that's the best source for me dwelling within when I create the Space. I do it with a question I do it with deliberation I go into a walking meditation. It used to be with my dogs. Now it's alone can't really do it with my daughter. She's just a chatterbox. But just a quiet walk around park around the pond even around the neighborhood and dusk or evening. When there's not so many visual distractions holding onto a question. A simple question. Like how can I make the most of these weeks and months in sequestration or What am I not seeing? That's plainly there to be seen with my challenge regarding X. Y. Z. Whether it's finances or being an entrepreneur or being a writer or personal relationships. I bring the question to the walking meditation and even to Sitting Lotus style rather than vacate my mind. I call it contemplative thought and I recently read an expression in a book by Ramtha called the White Book Jay Z. Night where something very similar to contemplate a thought was referenced for going within and Further Ramtha. Who's this enlightened being and it's really profound objective non agenda driven material spoke of going within using your reasoning mind. And I think that is lacking so much in most teachings of meditation and they're certainly many ways to meditate many many infinite number of ways to meditate but with my mental setup. If you will that the deck I've been dealt with good batter otherwise I much prefer to use contemplative thought and my reasoning mind gently as I kind of Polka question. Tried to look at it from outside of the box and again it's astounding and sometimes read. I don't get the answer I wanted when I asked question but because I had the process because I went through the steps even if I was disappointed by the end of the walk in the next couple of days. Maybe it'll be a week or two if it's gigantic question it's like some suddenly from seemingly nowhere. I have this sense of like of course and it's like the answer was there and I knew it was there but I had put my finger on it and now I'm putting my finger on it and I think this is an example of when we make effort with an intention and a desired end result in mind. You know it's not important what we do journal walking meditate. But it's important that we did it and then by knocking on those doors. Something something I have found. Is that another door. The right door opens and it would not have opened had not had. I not at least done what I could with what I had. Using known rituals journaling meditation ET CETERA. So just the effort expended now in quiet times will pay huge dividends. Whether or not you realize in that moment you unlock the vault holding the treasure right. So you're asking the universe for help and then yet the pay attention when it answers totally totally and I and I also have been harping a lot since the virus have been pretty busy. That you know. It's our natural default settings to be in clarity to be in health to be confident to move and in the world with friends and support to to make money more than we spend money. These are natural settings and applied to kind of getting rid of confusion or UNTANGLING crossed wires in our mind. If we at least go there and say you know. I've been stubbing Naito on this. The last year or the last decade I haven't broken through in this arena or that arena or I've been too reluctant or too resistant to take baby steps. What gives the answers they are divine intelligence are higher self warns us to have that answer. So it's not even a science that needs to be cultivated in needs to be worked on long and hard so that we can you know. Have that fifty fifty shot of hitting the home run and gaining clarity. It's like a note from the universe went said if you're even trying to visualize because people will talk to me. I am too distracted and should I put myself in the picture and show. I do it for ten minutes or thirty minutes. It's like look if you even China. Visualize you're doing it right and you are leaps and bounds further along than you would have been if you didn't try. It doesn't even matter the logistics and so to the point you were making you know beyond guard for the answer. Totally on point. But it's not like you know you have to be in a semi state of meditation and Awareness so that you get the answer because opportunity knocks once. It never stops knocking. Yeah well that's what people always say is like they're you know all the different stories and jokes about like the universe trying to give you the answer for so long. You're always saying I never get the answer I want and they show you back. They showed you one hundred tons. You notice exactly exactly and it'll keep on trying so if we keep asking until we have that sense of this is it. Then it'll keep on trying. That's for sure so to wrap everything up here. What do you have any final thoughts advice for? Everyone in this time as they're going through as they're trying to get everything right and avoid the fear anxiety stress. That's all out there for everybody. Yeah idea I have three things that I keep revisiting and and I think they're fun. Talking points in alignment with what we're we're sharing already number one is to remember. We live in a world of order and meaning where everything is permeated with love and purpose of the divine by the divine which is our source so so so listeners. Right now you're not vulnerable. You're not here as a Guinea pig to be tested judged in sentenced. You're not going to become some statistic Just for random willy nilly reasons because you forgot to wash your hands once although continue washing your hands a play both ends to the middle. Be Smart about your hygiene in your safety but at the same time. Don't give away your power by thinking bit that things like a virus is random in the extremely unlikely event that somebody listening right now might get it. That doesn't mean that they're bad or that they're broken or the gods angry. It's like it's GonNa give you another opportunity to go within see life like you've never seen it before so that when it passes you or rock your life like you've never had like you've never done before so number one there's order and meaning. You're not vulnerable. This isn't a game of chance. Okay all is supremely well. Our lives are being played out inside of the mind of God. A number two. I'd like to tell people that life is still beautiful. I mean it's magnificent. I've never seen such blue skies in Orlando as I did last weekend really and truly read read and perhaps they have been as blue. But I didn't notice and so this was a real leg-up for me to be sequestered and to see with a new pair of is the beauty and the hope and the love this everywhere. Emerging on the Internet emerging through through conversations like you've enabled right now and all that hey houses doing so. Life is still beautiful and number three. I'm really urging folks to take a little bit of this. I I hope they all have a little bit of extra downtime. In spite of fear in spite of maybe a lack of self confidence which I often have myself do it anyway. Jot Out or script out the best of your life from here. I mean once this storm passes and all storms pass wants to spend dynamic is gone. It's in the history books and it will be. How are you now going to look at life? What will you now prioritize? How will you spend your days your evenings your weekends and who scripted out? Write it down as if it's already happened dear journal Dear Universe. I'm so grateful. This pandemic has passed and equally grateful for the new insights. I have and the business of Xyz the book of ABC. The friends. That I have that have taken on new meaning in my life. I am so grateful and I can't wait to go to Tahiti next summer and I can't get into this fantasy world of the life of your wildest dreams Post Corona virus and there goes a lawnmower. Sorry about that's no problem. Thank you so we're all at home. Everyone understands Thank you so much Mike. That was very enlightening and very motivational to really pay attention to what's happening and thank you again for helping us here today. Well thank you read. Hey House family. You're all the best look forward to when I can see you in person under different circumstances but until then I feel you thank you.

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Best Of: 2020 In Film, TV & Music

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Best Of: 2020 In Film, TV & Music

"From whyy in philadelphia. I'm terry gross with fresh air weekend. Today we look back on the year and television film and music. We do this just about every year but no year has been like this. One covert ops the movie. Tv and music industries concerts were cancelled and movie theaters. Were mostly closed. Still are critics. Say there are some really good stuff to watch and listen to you and many people had more time than usual to do it. We'll hear from our tv critic. David dooley film critic. Justin chang and rock critic. Ken tucker they'll also tell us what's on their ten best lists also are jazz critic. Kevin whitehead will pay tribute to some of the jazz musicians. We lost this year. This message comes from. Npr sponsor adp with more than seventy years of experience helping businesses run smoothly. Adp helps clients navigate these complex times and compliance challenges so businesses can pay their people accurately and on time more than a payroll company. Adp is hr talent time benefits and payroll informed by data and design for people. Today we're going to look back on the year and tv movies and music with our tv critic. David being cooley. A rock critic ken. Tucker and our film critic justin chang who have each brought their ten best lists we do this year end retrospective just about every year but no year has been like this coverted year. Let's start with our tv critic. David being cooley. David usually when we do this. We're in the studio together and now we're each talking to each other by phone missing. Yeah i miss you too More than just for this conversation but yes here we are so we're gonna talk about tv. I don't even know what. Tv means anymore. Since there's and movies yeah does. That matter doesn't matter that the line is blurred so much between what's movies and television. It will matter when when when this dust finally shakes in a couple of years. I think this is an absolute major change in the medium of television and how we define it. But we don't know yet. All i know is the old rules. Don't apply i really. When i was putting together this ten list i had to make my own decisions about what was a movie. What was a tv show. What was you know. We're all watching differently. We're all reacting to a differently. Everything is different this year. Well let's hear what's on your ten best lists and how you define what's what's television. So what order do you wanna take it in you know. I think it's such a different year. We're doing everything differently. I try to build suspense usually by going towards the top. I think we ought to start with the top and work down just to give some credence to what's been going on in television because e it's so different and i had a problem this year with the top ten i've never had before and it was I keep changing the very top two entries for reasons that i think have to do with covert a little bit and so my number one show in the top. Ten is the number one show simply because it's such a wonderful program to watch right now that even though the other one is was my favorite show for years and i want to call it number one. I can't so we're talking about two shows we're talking about the drama of better call saul on amc and we're talking about the comedy shits creek. Which is the cbc production out of canada. The showed up on pop tv and then became noticed once. It showed up on netflix. And i love both of these shows. But i think that shit's creek because of what a good and nice and warm hearted program. It is really deserves the top spot in a really bottoming out year. Does that make any sense. Yes it does but spell the title just because we're in public radio. And i don't want people to get the wrong idea. Yeah thank you. Thank you terry. This is why you're the host. Yes when i reviewed this when it first came out. I made a big deal of the spelling. It it's s. c. h. itt apostrophe s and shits creek is a small place in this formerly wealthy family Sort of bought the town as a gag gift one year and then when they lost all their money turns out. That's where they had to go in order to survive and it becomes a really warm story where every character in it. No matter how funny they may be or how buffoonish they may initially have seemed. They're all warm. They're all sweet and Several episodes including the ending that they ran in in twenty twenty which i will not spoil anything about just turned out to be just lovely and treated everybody well and it was such goodness that you know. I think. It's almost a tonic for our times. I can't recommend highly enough that anybody who has net flicks to go seek out shits creek. God tarmac for a time. Sounds so good. So what else is on your ten best list. Well number one is shits creek. Number two is better call saul on. Amc is getting worse. Each year in terms of what's happening to the characters but better each year in terms of it being a show. It's the prequel to breaking bad. It's brilliant and if not for shits creek it would be my number one show again as those so those are my one and two and then to burn through the rest of the top ten and there's a couple here that That may be movies and not tv. I'm not sure but there's the borat subsequent movie film on amazon but that's where it premiered on amazon and it had an awful lot of heart while still having the same sort of borat humor number four the good place on nbc stuck. It's landing a wonderful comedy about the afterlife. And michael sure did a great job writing the last episode of that and then number five Hamilton which was filmed a couple of years ago with original cast. It was it was intended to be rolled out is a big deal in theaters but then halfway through the pandemic disney plus did it as a fourth of july special and basically proved how big streaming services are and will be from now on so hamilton sort of changed things then the last half lovecraft country on. Hbo a really good spooky. Weird miniseries fargo every year. No a hall every year. That noah hawley does A miniseries version of fargo. He does it great. And this one had chris rock and it was wonderful number eight. Curb your enthusiasm you either. Like larry david or you don't on hbo. I love larry. David and his coffee shop had hand sanitizers on every table before covid so he was ahead of that curve. Number nine is the queen's gambit on net flicks which even though it was a little bit predictable it was also wonderful and then number ten. A documentary on. Espn the last dance about the chicago. Bulls and michael. Jordan was so much better than i expected and gave us sports during covid when nobody was. That's my top ten one of the interesting things this year about late night comedy was. The hosts started off during covid hosting from their homes and then eventually most went back to their their studios or in stephen colbert cases office. His office At the ed sullivan theater and it was. It was interesting to see how they worked without. An audience and kobe are still does not have an audience. And i'm actually enjoying that. There's a certain intimacy. And i like i think it's his wife was often like laughing in the background Not laughing which sometimes even that's right that's right and so i'm joe there's there's an intimacy about a directness about it. Then i'm really enjoying. I'm not sure if kobe berra's enjoying it it is incredibly intimate and You realize colbert is a perfect example. So we'll stay with him. That which of these hosts are really quick. Witted themselves and not reliant mostly on writers or on format and you can just tell that he shines here one on one as a person just talking to us as people so this is the time of the conversation. Where typically ask you. What should we be looking forward to next year in television. Is there anything to look forward to. I mean has anything been produced that we will be able to see next year or has everything been on hold and who knows what will be able to see. There's something coming up in the first couple of weeks of january. I haven't seen it yet but it's from You know the thirty rock people and it stars ted danson and so that's a network television. Show that i'm looking forward to seeing if it's any good but most of it i don't know nobody knows i'm just. I cannot tell you how pleased i will be to turn the calendar to twenty twenty one except i feel like everybody listening. Feels exactly the same way. Yes but the secret is that twenty twenty. One could possibly be worse. I i'd hate to be the voice of gloom twenty twenty one. Let's put twenty twenty behind us new year's going to be so much better but we don't know that c- c- i consider myself a worst case scenario person around. I m almost. I never outdone there. But you just lapped me like the road runner. I heard beep as you win by. Yeah you're welcome. So what was your favorite tv moment of the year. Do you have one i do. And this is came early in the pandemic eh. it was sort of an experimental use. Of maybe how. We can do tv through this. And i i know. We both love stephen sondheim. So i'm guessing you saw this. It was the the take me to the world. Sondheim ninetieth birthday celebration and when they couldn't do it in person anymore. They decided to do it as an early fundraiser streaming with everybody either presenting pre-taped pieces that were put together or doing you know it was just a beautiful thing and it started off rocky technical difficulties but once it got going it was absolutely everything i wanted and more. It was not only artistic and beautifully done but it was so uplifting and this is like early on you know this is just a month into the pandemic and i already felt such a relief from it so i brought a clip. This is the ladies who lunch from company on broadway. Originally elaine stritch did it solo and sort of made it her own. But it's a great song and here for this ninetieth birthday fundraiser. You get three divas. All in different locations in bathrobes and holding drinks singing separately and then together and it's meryl streep christine baranowski and audra mcdonald and it was exhilarating and each of them have sung in. Sondheim shows are in meryl streep's case in the movie of into the woods. That's right so david. I wish you a good new year. I wish you a healthy new year and a better year than twenty twenty. Okay thank you very much. It was good visiting with you even like this and david in. Cooley is our tv critic. And he's the editor of the website tv worth watching a professor of tv studies at rohan university. You can find his ten best list on our website fresh air dot. Npr dot org and hear is ladies who lunch. I like to a tote. Everybody lounging in that cab. Towns planning number after the june then finning claiming then looking young. Because they've been sitting choosing not. Does anyone still wear. I had to show. She's smart roughing the law par. He is the girls employees. Why are they keeping house but clutching copy of just who themselves. Soon Drinking beer and he is to the girl who just watch the bed. After we take a short break rock critic. Ken tucker and film critic justin. Chang will tell us what's on their ten best lists. I'm terry gross. And this is fresh air weekend support for this podcast and the following message come from doctors without borders right now. Doctors without borders teams are on the ground in over seventy countries providing lifesaving medical care to those who need it. Most awarded the nobel peace prize in nineteen ninety. Nine doctors without borders is known around the world is one of the most trusted humanitarian organizations to learn about making a lasting gift to doctors without borders by including the organization in your estate plans. Visit legacy dot doctorswithoutborders dot org record. Ken tucker has come up with a list of his favorite albums of two thousand. Twenty that includes music acts old and new with artists ranging. From dua lipa to bob dylan. It was a year. Ken says in which familiarity was comforting and artistic daring provided some very necessary inspiration for a hope. Me it's been a strange day. A strange night sings the great los angeles rock band x inner phrase that comes close to summing up twenty twenty for me in early april x released alphabet. Land the quartet's first album of new material with its original lineup in thirty five years. It's my favourite album of the year for the way it sees. Its moment with an urgency. That the band couldn't have known would be so timely just before the world seemed to shut down these days i'm listening with increased appreciation to a song on the album that i didn't even play in my initial review it's the powerful cry of exhilaration and release called free You dow free this year. That was like no other ended up making me respond to its music. In a way i never had before the pandemic along with unprecedented political and social upheaval made the notion of pleasure both more intense and moreover to question there was a general feeling among almost everyone. I know that we didn't just want to be transported by new music. We needed to be transported. The escapism of art was one of the few things we had control over. Its this context that gives the bright pop sound of dua lipa. Its depth on her marvelous album. Future nostalgia with me. I know it's a with little bit accompaniment me at the time got exxon dua. Lipa occupied the first two spots on my top ten. Here's the rest. The happy fits and their album. What could be better low cut. Connie private lives. Which for my money was a better bruce springsteen album than the years actual bruce springsteen album in the fifth spot is taylor. Swift's folklore then fiona apple's clattering comeback album. Fetch the bolt cutters. Let's pause to hear apple performing heavy balloon. People like us. We plan heavy balloon give. The devil appeared to suit black us. Wave play with a heavy balloon. Loop keeping up to keep the devil but paul was to sue people like us. Keep it up to the devil bay but it always falls way too soon style. Ps is now. I'm finishing off my list. At number seven sister act time with women and music part three the bristling hip hop broadsides of run. The jewels on. Rt j. four. Bob dylan's remarkably spunky collection rough and rowdy ways and pokey lafarge for his album. Rock bottom rhapsody. No-one all year has hit rock bottom as beautifully as pokey a city of term back. No go the state in the sky way. I should add that. If this were list of the year's best singles it would be dominated by hip hop where megan thee stallion and flow. Millie made exhilarating intricate and profane music. And where lil yati drake and debate. He collaborated on the year's most amusing song. Oprah's bank account missing from my list. This year is a country album. With the exception of mickey gotten song black like me. Too much of the most popular country music sounded safe and timid during a time that demanded resilience and fortitude. Those are also qualities. I wish for you now and in the new year to come tucker is fresh air's rock critic you can find his ten best list at fresh air dot. Npr dot org. It's been months since. I've been in a movie theater and i miss theaters so much. Covert has changed. We're and how we see movies. And his left us with fewer new movies to see our film critic. Justin chang who is also film critic for the l. a. Times is with us to talk about the year and film and to share his. Ten best lists justin. It's good to talk with you again. What a year. It's been must have been quite a year for you like your job has probably changed but we'll get to that a little bit later so you've been well. I hope i have terry and i hope you have to. And it's a pleasure to be back with you at the end of this. Yes very crazy year for all of us. I know my standard answer to. How are you is good dot under the circumstances. Yeah well let's start with your ten best lists You want to run through it. Yeah i'm going to read my list of which is As usual a series of themed pairing so number ten and number nine go together for example And i'm going to start from ten and work my way back to one so at number ten on my list is being. Poll counts amir blogs stark heroin. Drama about two women in post world war two leningrad. I've paired that with my number nine. Never rarely sometimes always allies hickman's film about two teenage girls traveling to new york so that one of them can procure an abortion. Both those films can be found on a variety of streaming platforms At number eight is collective alexander nana's explosive documentary about the political corruption of romania's healthcare system. It's a portrait of institutions and crisis. That was clearly inspired by another great documentary. Filmmaker frederick wiseman who directed my number seven movie city hall a sweeping panorama of boston's municipal government that stands among his best recent work collective playing on various streaming platforms and city hall is in virtual cinemas nationwide up next on. My list are the two oldest and most inventive literary adaptations. I saw all year and both of them happened to be about the self destructive tendencies and intellectual vanities of men and for all that they could hardly be more different films. Number six is. I'm thinking of ending things charlie. Kaufman's darkly funny. Psychological thriller based on ian. Reed's novel That movie is available. Net flicks number five is martin eden pietro marcello inspired italian language adaptation of jack london classic it can be streamed via the keno marquee virtual cinema. The next on my list is devoted to perfectly craft a dramas set in the american wilderness. That also play like requiems for the american dream. Number four is first cow kelly right carts gripping crime story about to entrepreneurs and their bovine companion in eighteen twenty oregon and that can be found on streaming platforms number. Three is nomad land. Khloe zhao's achingly. Beautiful drama starring. A never better frances mcdormand as a woman driven by grief poverty and wanderlust to hit the road and never looked back. You can actually see that film in early. Twenty twenty one when it will be more widely released and finally my two very favorite movies of twenty twenty Number two is time garrett bradley wrenching documentary about a woman who fought for two decades to release her husband from excessive prison. Sentence and number. One is vitally leonova. Rela a work of both fiction and nonfiction from the portuguese director. Pedro kosta Which follows a cape verdean widow on her solitary journey to bury her husband in a lisbon. Shantytown both of these movies are portraits of black women. Living worlds apart yet both possessed of extraordinary determination and courage as they confront personal loss while refusing to let it have the last word time can be streamed on amazon prime video and vita lena rela can be found on. The website of its distributor grasshopper fell just wondering if living during the pandemic affected the kinds of move. Is you wanted to see and how you responded to movies that were shot before the pandemic it definitely affected the movies. I was able to see and of course just the movies that were available. I mean this was not a big year for studio movies as we know For all that though in terms of Independent films in terms of documentaries films made in other countries released here films that i saw at festivals last year and also at say the sundance film festival this year which was one of the last festivals to happen before the pandemic shut everything down. There was an abundance the usual abundance of films and so in that respect. There's actually been something liberating i would say. I mean it seems like such an odd thing to say a time when none of us feel liberated but And the the the implications for you know the the movie industry and for hollywood are dire and grim. But i've been heartened by the renewed focus on some of those movies that would not have maybe gotten the same and that are always in danger of being sort of crowded out and pushed to the margins. And right now we're in. The season is top. Ten season for critics. It is a year end. Critics group voting season so there are a lot of people. I think who you know maybe are not watching a ton of movies or paying as much attention to what is going on in the movie world but they they'll say things like why are you even doing those things this year. Y y even make a top ten list. There have been no movies and my my answer to that is always actually. There have been a lot of movies. They're just not the kinds of movies. You usually hear. Being talked about are having enormous expensive advertising campaigns. You just have to look a little harder and it was just as hard for me to make a top ten list this year as it was in any year because i saw in loved so many movies that being said just the way. I do my job as the way everyone has done. Their job has changed. Of course it's hard not being in theaters a miss them terribly just as much as you do and streaming at home. I'm grateful for streaming. I'm grateful for the safety of my living room. But i it's been harder to it's harder to focus it's harder to give the movie the undivided attention that it deserves and just all the usual things of working from home. I have a small child at home to it. It hasn't been that part of. It has definitely been a challenge. I guess is our film critic. Justin chang. we'll talk more about the year and film. After a break and jazz critic kevin whitehead will remember some of the great musicians we lost this year. This is fresh air weekend. this message comes from. Npr sponsor capital one. Welcome to banking reimagined capital. One checking and savings accounts have no fees or minimum and top-rated banking app. That lets you manage your money anytime anywhere. Check on the account. Balance deposit checks pay bills and transfer money on the go. This is banking reimagined. What's in your wallet capital one. Na member fdic hip hop and america's prisons have both grown exponentially. Is this a coincidence. Or is it by design. I'm cindy maddin. Listen now to lower the right. The new podcast from npr music. We trace the collision of rhyme and punishment in america. All eleven episodes are available right now. Go binge it. Let's get back to our look at the year and film with our film critic. Justin chang so you're the film critic for the la times. Have there been fights between you. And the tv critic over who gets to review watt since the line has blurred between. What's a movie and what's tvs in so many movies are opening in tv platforms. The truth is terry. You know it's even before this year. My wonderful la times colleagues lorraine ali and robert lloyd. The tv critics at the times. We never fight about stuff like that because we have so much on our plate. It's like catchy. it's more the other way around. Can you do this. Can you please. But absolutely this year there have been that the blurring of the lines have become even more pronounced this year. nothing has encapsulated that so much i think as small acts the anthology of films five films directed by steve mcqueen They are five different stories about life in london's west indian community set between the nineteen sixties and nineteen eighty s. Steve mcqueen is primarily known as a film director of course with films like the oscar winning twelve years of slave hunger. Shame Those movies this is him working in television working. You know doing a multi-part tv work. He made them specifically for british television. And they're being shown amazon. So but you know those are movies and three of them played at the new york film festival. Two of them were selected for can so the whole is this. A movie is the tv series. Question has inspired furious debate. The los angeles film critics association. A group that. I'm a member of. We voted small acts the whole anthology as our best film of the year and that delighted some and infuriated a lot more. I don't get too tied up with these distinctions myself to me. I think cinema can absolutely be television and vice versa. i'm not so obsessed with the classification of some people are and But i it been really interesting to see the The the debate that has erupted out of that decision in particular so these movies are movies but they were made for television yes And the movies and lovers rock mangrove red white and blue alex wheedle and education. They were made for television But they were they were also You know they were submitted. A film festivals I think that they have aesthetic qualities that really do themselves to being seen on a big screen and if if festivals had gone is normal they would have been seen that way but but yes. They were made for television confusing between set to. This is a very personal story. These personal stories for him. This is the community that he grew up and and he said that he wanted. He wanted his mom to be able to watch these at home so so that is also partly why he wanted them to be very accessible to the widest audience. Possible so do you think over. It has affected the kind of movie that you most receptive to how it's affected the kind of mood. You want from a movie and what. You're what makes you impatient. And what makes you really engaged. We most people have been so uneducated. And i think that's being reflected in the choices that they make for listening and viewing. I'm kind of weird in that. My mood is maybe less determined than most by. Just the overall general mood in terms of what i'm in the mood for like i was just having a conversation with friend the other day they said. Oh i can't watch a pressing right now and it's like i'm sort of of the mind really. I actually like leaning into depressing stuff. It actually provides a bit of perspective in a way it actually. I don't get me wrong. I mean i. I also shortly in the early days of the pandemic. I was watching the shop around the corner. I was watching singing in the rain. Yes i love my escapist hollywood entertainment as much as anyone but there's something to be said for leaning into stories about people who are even worse off than to are. I'm just for a bit of perspective. It's actually really funny. The movie that i was talking with with a friend was beanpole. Which is the number ten on my list. Which i do recommend people and i would warn them if if you are you know if if you can't handle anything depressing right now i would say maybe skip that but at the end of the day i'm reminded of something roger ebert said to paraphrase. It's that Great artists never depressing so true like depressing. I always think of cold war. The movie cold war. It's very depressing film and a lot of ways. But it's so exhilarating. That's just so good We'll be along those themes you saying you like to lean into the depression and despair but what movies have given you like the most comfort and joy cover. What seasonal words. Yeah i know. Well you know i will say that As far as movies. That were really comforting. I would single out. Lovers rock Which is one of those. Five small films directed by steve mcqueen This is a movie set at a nineteen eighties. House party In london in notting hill actually And it is Just sheer bliss. It's a great party movie. And it's a great a anti social distancing movie because you are there are just heartstoppingly beautiful moments in this film where the camera is grooving. Along with the dancers. And it's it's sensual. It's sexy it's romantic. It is completely transporting really hypnotic filmmaking by mcqueen and it's unlike anything he's done i think because most of his movies to be colder and more severe. I think that there was something really liberating about that. One in particular and we in the audience or in in our watching it not in the audience watching it at home in our on our. Tv's can feel some of that and and it just it. It absolutely will lift your spirits. And i think give you hope for For the future another one kind of along. Those lines is david burns. American utopia directed by By spike lee That movie actually opened the toronto film festival this year. virtually of course and a just a great concert film just burst of joy i mean american utopia expresses so much hope despite the darkness and i think those two movies lovers. Rock american utopia. We miss house parties. We miss concerts. We miss we miss being together and those movies will allow you to experience some of that safely. What are you gonna be doing over the holidays watching movies as usual. But also and hopefully take no break and not writing about them But also just the staying at home Hungering in the bunker with My my wife and daughter and You know what are you gonna watch the holidays if you're watching movies. Oh gosh. I don't know yet and i'm so bad at answering that because i just have this huge stack of things i need to watch. I want i always wanna watch older films as well. One of the pleasures of of this year has been actually getting to watch moral movies than i typically. Get to in a in a busier year so but also My holidays never feel complete. If i do not watch. Meet me in. St. louis which is one of my all time favorite movies. That wonderful nine forty for judy garland musical which is a great christmas movie But it's also just a great seasonal year round movie because it's takes place over a whole year and I can't That is something that i think will soothe my soul and i hope many others as well just in. It's been a pleasure to talk with you again. And i wish you a twenty twenty one. That's better than twenty twenty has been and with plenty of Not only good movies but hopefully a chance to gather with who you love and go back to film festivals and be able to argue in person with move about movies with people. I miss that so much. And thank you so much terry. And i wish the same for you. Happy holidays and happy new year to you. Thank you justin. Chang is fresh. Air's film critic and film critic for the la times you can find his ten best list on our website fresh air dot npr dot org Dozens of notable jazz musicians died in two thousand twenty then from covid nineteen. We lost far too many jazz musicians this year to even mention all of them the drummer's alone we lost include john christensen. Raymond jimmy cobb. Charlie precip by ila smith and can dido camaro earlier in the year. Fresh air remembered pianist. Mccoy tyner and saxophonist cone. It's now are jazz critic. Kevin white pays tribute to seven other musicians who died this year. Deters bucky pirelli was one of those musicians. You heard more than you knew playing on. Tv shows and zillion record dates whereas unobtrusive often bluesy licks and sturdy rhythm. Chords quietly made a big difference. His guitar and bass playing kids carry on the tradition. Another jazz patriarch died. On the same day april first. Ls marcellus the swinging aesthetic. He imparted was famous. Sons and the countless students made him one of the real taste makers of jazz over the last forty years s. marcellus was also new orleans emblematic modern jazz pianist back when his kids branford and wynton were toddlers. Another product of a musical family tenor saxophonist. Jimmy heath who died at age ninety three sometimes played in the heath brothers band with his siblings percy and albert in philadelphia and the nineteen forties. Jimmy hung with fellow up and coming. Saxophonists john coltrane and living treasurer benny golson. They worked hard to play fast and clean creating a philadelphia tenure style. Here's jimmy the nineteen seventy five. Who died in. July was an actor as well as singer. Shoot occasionally combine those careers as in robert altman's film shortcuts. Acting and jazz singing have much in common. In either case you have to sell the story and sometimes to appear totally relaxed while performing several complex actions at once. Andy ross added by the early nineteen fifties before joining the vocal trio. Lambert hendrickson ross. Under if i was high. Or if it was america's miracle this nation i turned around and found some thing thought was merely my imagination on my blouse or mouth. Sad there and this to you. If you want to hear the story of glory and all about the time i was gigging with a and all the cast. But i was really the end. They always stand around a year. The sound that was crazy raising little major who was on my back in nineteen sixty four. Gary peacock played some of the wildest base. Then captured on record with free. jazz saxophonist. albert eyler later peacock applied the same intense physicality and leaping lines in less extreme settings notably in pianist. Keith jarrett's long running trio with jack division. On drums gary peacock made the bass violin. Sing in its own. Quirky voice and has confidence in the upper register dared other basis to aim for high notes when vais solo. We'll end to trumpet players. In a music that prizes the personal voice wallace roney at something profoundly. Tricky of his admiration for miles davis at several junctures and that trumpeters career but ronnie absorbed miles values so completely. They became his own way to express himself so as playing. Didn't sound like a stunt or gimmick even miles liked it. Wallace roney had a beautiful sometimes melancholy tone. That could touch you in. Its own right personally. All miss three departed musicians worked at the fringes of jazz. The master of improvised interactive electronics. Richard teitelbaum the dutch pianist and instrument inventor core fuller and finally the resolutely. Untameable japanese trumpeter. Toshinori kondo when he was in the mood to really blow condos raw go for broke horn conjured the expressive power of the early jazz pioneers that ancient earthy cry keeps echoing decades bound for jesus. Future musicians pass. The music keeps rolling. 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How to Connect with Your Ideal Customers with Neuroscience Marketing Expert Roger Dooley

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How to Connect with Your Ideal Customers with Neuroscience Marketing Expert Roger Dooley

"Today show roger dooley the neuroscience marketing expert shares with us how uber amazon kogel have grown as a result of obsessing about reducing the amount of friction that consumers must experience to do business with them on neuro science marketing expert roger dooney and at carnegie mellon graduate roger dooley's shares with us the power of neuroscience marketing one one. Oh one the importance of reducing friction with your ideal unlikely buyers and why you and i both obsess about making it easy for customers to do business with you and on ladies and gentlemen without further ado the neuroscience marketing expert up choice roger roger doolan. Anna teaches us about the power of friction lewis business process above of of of of of some shows. Don't don't need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show the big show to may eight kids co created by two different women thirteen multi million dollar businesses ladies and gentlemen welcome to the time show the aww yes yes and yes dr nation on today's show interviewing an expert in the field of neuro science marketing roger dooley mr roger dooley welcome onto the thrive time show. How are you sir well. I'm doing great klay. Thanks for having me on hey i would can you introduced listeners to what neuro science means a lot of entrepreneurs or listening sending who they they'd. We know what the word marketing is but i love to be clear on the definition of things. Could you break and you know when he talked about neuro marketing klay there veering definitions out. They're very broadly. It is use of the tools of neuroscience to do better marketing. I find an even more broadly met and say <hes> it's <hes> using our understanding of how our brains work to market better <hes> and some of their some real specific neural marketing techniques like a measuring brainwaves using e._e._g. While people are watching advertisements or consuming content <hes> there are things that aren't quite neuro science but tools like i tracking cracking and implicit testing and <hes> facial coding reading people's facial expressions of those fall under the sort of broad category of neuro marketing and i like a to even include using brain and behavior research to <hes> make marketing better because those kinds of techniques can be applied by anybody not just by big brands ends who can afford fancy studies using neuroscience equipment but just about any size business even small entrepreneurs can take the findings of behavioral science and psychology to market better you you said the word. I think you said <hes> e._e._g. What does e._e._g. E._g. stanford okay that's electro-enchephalogram and it is a medical tool that spend repurpose by marketers as many of these tools have been <hes>. There's another two i did mention agents f._m. Arrive at a brain sort of almost like a real time brain scan looks at brain activity and they can see which areas of the brain are lighting up so you know you can be a watching an advertisement they can see which parts of your brain your lighting up and try and determine what kind of emotion you're experiencing or whether you're engaged aged not engaged i e g is a much less expensive than machines are huge machines that are noisy and you sort of go in this little narrow confined tube <hes> because <hes> that's the way it works <hes>. You need that equipment but <hes> e. G. is a lot simpler. They are little sort of caps that have electrodes can be a lot of electrodes or even just a few electrodes and <hes> those attached to your scalp galp and again we measure brain ways but from the outside. They aren't actually doing sort of a three d. image. They're measuring the activity outside but that can still yield some pretty useful results. It's you are just impotently fascinating to me so i'm sorry i go off the rails too much here before we get into your book but i just want to. I know the listeners out there wanting to know these things and i'm going to get a lot of <hes>. You know e mails if i don't ask you some of these questions so let's say i have a smartphone with me. Okay date with my wife and it's a great day to great restaurant. It's you know and let's just say i'm behaving badly. I've got my phone out faced up and i get a complaint from a customer that comes in <unk> complaint comes in the email or something or a facebook. I think you're already in trouble okay so let's just say i think a lot of our listeners that they can relate to this because they're self employed. I have a rule now. I've learned it took me awhile. Put the phone in the car. Leave the phone there. But what kind of readings would somebody see on e._e._g. Machine what's going on neuro science level to somebody who's receiving a complaint while on a date with their wife while the people who are texting underneath the table about something bad while being in a meeting. That's very good people that are face booking while at church physically but mentally not the church sticky. You talk to us about what would show up on e._e._g. Or a and yeah well that that's a good question. Claimed woman can't directly answer it typically. E._e._g.'s would not be used in a sort of a real setting like that because <hes> they require wearing the special cap with these electrodes and <hes> so it's it's difficult to do it in a setting that feels natural although if somebody wears it for awhile say while they're watching t._v. And a controlled a <music> site or something <hes> they kind of forget about it so that that works but <hes> it might not be quite as effective in a restaurant as far as you know what it would show <hes> typically and there are different companies that have different interpretations of each in different ways that use it but i would say that one typical approach would be to to measure the level of engagement and the welby <hes> level of emotion and also attention might be combined with eye tracking so that for for instance if you were watching a t._v. Commercial or a television show like game of thrones <hes> they could be looking at what you're gazing at determining what part of the screen you're looking at <hes> as well as have an idea of your level of emotional arousal and <hes> you know perhaps idea even of the specific emotion although we start getting down a specific emotions. It's a little bit harder to interpret. Wow okay okay. So when did you figure out that you wanted to do you wanted to be an expert and neuroscience marketing and when did you get interested in the field of neuroscience well. It was actually quite accidental. I was it really goes back. Maybe maybe to my very deep roots. <hes> way back in my college days. I was interested in psychology and minored in psychology. I was an engineer and i'll i also is interested in advertising for some reason when i was in the library supposed to be studying organic chemistry instead i would be reading advertising age that was a long time ago and it really set that stuff aside for a long time about fifteen years or so ago now <hes> i saw two fields coming together <hes> advertising our marketing marketing and neuro science and i certainly wasn't the first person to see that but they're already even in a few early neuro marketing service providers providers but i decided to start a blogging website. I registered a domain neuroscience marketing dot com which was still available at the time because not many people were thinking about that and i got traction <hes> people started reading and replying and i but i found myself steered away a little bit from the sort of pure tools of neuroscience things like that f. m. r. i. e. g. mainly because those at the time were only available to big brands ends <hes> and instead focusing more on some of the tools of psychology and social science and behavioral science. <hes> things like chaldeans six principles which <hes> more more recently grew to seven principles of the work of danbury ellie and other <hes> behavioral economists and a behavioral scientists in the weird world that we live in. If your name was kanye west i wouldn't have to interrogate you so much about your resume and your background by a lot of our listeners wanna know because i want to get into this book and make sure that did you have that that that that platform where people know that you really know what you're talking about. Can you share with the listeners where you went to college and kind of what your entrepreneurial journey has been before before writing re writing this book sure up briefly because of being an old guy. I've got a longer resume than some but not necessarily better on the <hes> <hes>. I did my undergrad work at carnegie mellon. I majored in <hes> chemical engineering. A few years later picked up my m._b._a. At the university of tennessee see and i really visualize myself as sort of a corporate career guy started off doing engineering with pre quickly moved into management and when i was about thirty i really kind of hit. What i felt was key point in my corporate career. I was in charge of strategic planning for a fortune. One thousand company which offer me was really great. I love my job. I thought it was wonderful to be so involved. In <hes> some of steering the corporation although i wasn't really alternate decision maker but <hes> being right there part of the process and i chose that moment to bail out and become an entrepreneur i co founded a direct marketing business <hes> aimed at the early owners of home computers. We're just coming online and <hes> the big box stores were selling the computers but did not either on. They didn't understand the product for one and they didn't have the wealth of accessories s. reason software that we're really available out there so the only way to get those was through at the time what was called mail order. This is pre ecommerce <hes> in cited for quite quite a long time and <hes> over the years that morphed into some different businesses with a much more digital emphasis. <hes> had an i._t. Outsourcing business for a while oh that's like me into digital marketing s._e._o. <hes> and belk in two thousand one <hes> i co-founded another business called college confidential which was designed to help people with the really confusing college admissions process <hes> in the u._s. It is really confusing in australia there are i think about what thirty thirty nine universities in the u._s. There are off three to four thousand institutions of higher education with greatly differences. This is between them and they're scattered over all fifty states so it's just a an almost impenetrable impenetrable process so <hes> this was is to be an information site where people could come for informed content that was written from a neutral perspective not trying to sell anything just be informative but also i built to start building a community there that ended up becoming the tail to wag the dog at a grew to be a huge site <hes> years ago it hit forty million page views. A month page views a month. That's huge huge. Yeah it was <hes> it really succeeded beyond our dreams we he ended up selling the business to part of the daily mail group <hes> because <hes> it's actually a really good fit <hes> <hes> they had we were having the difficulty monetize which is something that probably many entrepreneurs experience. You've got a great idea but <hes> <hes> and it's working accept hard to make money at out. We thought that as soon as we built this platform colleges be falling all over themselves to advertise which it turned out <hes> they weren't they were very traditional and <hes> they needed a much more or <hes> intense sales approach the company that we ended up working with a dedicated sales force by two thousand five people who were very embedded in at these universities <hes> and on the other hand they were a print business and they did not get digital all that well <hes> where we brought the digital expertise so as acquisitions go it was a pretty benign one of the <hes> site continued to grow for years and i was y'all together not that bad of an experience that really helped both organizations a lot so after that <hes> eventually after the sale i gradually decreased my involvement in the business and began in writing about neuroscience and marketing so <hes> for the listeners out there that i'm gonna get into your book and that's why i want to spend most of our time because your your a new book <hes> friction is is awesome. Can you share what degrees do you have from carnegie mellon or did you did you get a degree from carnegie mellon carnegie mellon. Yes yes <hes> a bachelor's degree in chemical engineering of all things which i guarantee i have not used chemical engineering knowledge directly for years but engineering is always a good thing to have it teaches you to treat the world as it is as opposed to the way you wanted to be okay now thriving nation here we go. I want you to strap on a helmet and get ready because we have a guy with a bachelor's degree in chemical engineering who went to school at carnegie mellon carnegie mellon. He's going to get here and on this microphone. He's going to share with us some some knowledge bombs in some truth truth from his new book friction <hes> roger what i inspired you to write this book well. I'm going to detour clay for one second. I tell you something amusing about my time mccarty mellon <hes> at the time they were one of the few schools that actually had a really strong computer science department <hes> they were just like like one of the three schools in the country that may be have a significant one and i was very interested in that i was going to transfer into that area <hes> and my academic could visor. <hes> told me that computers were a fad and that there always be a need for chemical engineers so i ended up in the digital world by our security circuitous manner but it just shows <hes> <hes> how weird things turn out times. <hes> you know who knows ahead. I switched what my career would have looked like but anyway. I'm sorry the question was <hes> <hes> book your new book friction it. It's powerful and i just wanted to ask you wouldn't spires you to write this book. <hes> you know <hes> i was focused for quite a while on a web conversion and using some of these <hes> psychology based techniques to convert better in other words so to turn more of your website visitors into customers or leads if that was your objective and <hes> there's there's certainly a lot of territory there and eh. I came across the work of j fogg at stanford who created his fog behavior model. Does you need three things to either create or change your behavior. You need motivation asian. The person has to want to do it or want. The result of doing it got it okay and <hes> there has to be a trigger or a prompt typically something to sort of get the ball rowing <hes> it could be anything from a phone call to a pop up add to visible call to action on a website and then they have to have what he calls alls ability and that translates into lack of difficulty in other words they have to be able to do it and hopefully it's not going to be too hard because <hes> the easier easier is the more likely it is that that behavior will occur and i translated that <hes> a few years later into my own model called the persuasion slide <hes> you tried to involve both conscious and unconscious <hes> factors in each part of it which i'm not going to go into the details here we don't have time for that but one of the elements is friction and and in the physical world that's when the kid gets stuck part way down the slide because it's not slippery enough and in our the metaphor for marketing world it is a when things are too difficult <hes> either because they're actually difficult or because they seem difficult called to the customer and i found that that was the most interesting element of the slide because often the easiest and cheapest thing to fix you know you can always increase people's people's motivation if you give them free stuff right <hes> or if you <hes> i'll give them discounts but those things cost real money. We're if you can simply make things easier. It may cost you a little bit upfront to fix your bad processes <hes> but once you fix that it'll just keep working for you forever. You know look look at one click ordering amazon <hes>. That's been working for him for a boy twenty years now. I want t this up here for you here roger. Maybe maybe maybe this'll make you think less of me as a result of this but it's just you and me talking with half million people listening for some reason the other night. My wife and i wanted to watch a movie on on like netflix now. We're very intentional. We have five kids so it's like hey you know we can watch this documentary or this particular. Show we wanna make sure we put good information into our kids creams and that thing it took about. I don't know it was like it was the internet speed internet problem. My house flooded recently so we're working off a wi fi hotspot right now and that pinwheel had spun a few times. The internet was way. We're waiting on the internet to load it was just spending and it seemed like ours but i think it was maybe two seconds but but it seems like weeks but it might have been a max of three seconds decade i needed to shave again had been waiting decades but my wife point four seconds or so how long can consumers wait for a site to load or for something to work before they go. I'm i'm going to bet because i was about ready to go. Let's just go to bed. How long can people the average person wait on technology before they they get they get done with it. They're they're tired of it. They say i gotta move on to well. You know that's a moving target because <hes> thinks keep getting faster and better. I now and i think one thing that mitty businesses don't realize is that customers are not comparing your business to your direct competitors like if you think well okay <hes> you know oh my load speed or my website isn't the best but boy it's way better than the people that i compete with <hes> that doesn't really matter because they are comparing you to oslo the low times at google in an amazon <hes> they're comparing your in-person experience to the experience that uber offers <hes> and the fact that you suck like a little bit less than your competitors doesn't really <hes> cut it. You know they <hes> they have an absolute standard. I think one great example. I can look up anything i've order from amazon for. I think like relax fifteen years <hes> with just a few clicks <hes> do business that ideal with will do that for me <hes> with such ease but i expected now you know a few years ago. I didn't expect it. <hes> i just figured well okay you know they can keep so many orders online and then they go into. I dunno awesome warehouse someplace or whatever but you know hey. If amazon does it why can't you you know. It's not like hard drives. Are that expensive these days <hes> okay that right there. Someone's going to have to marinate already. Don't someone's gonna have to marinate on that for a few hours. You said simply because you know you suck a little bit less than your competitors. It doesn't matter because people people were comparing you to amazon to google to. I'd like for you to open up your book. We're gonna open up your book friction for a second. We're going to open up the book. When i opened up the book friction the untapped forced that can be your most powerful advantage. Give me a few of the knowledge bombs or maybe a few of the ample examples that you provide in your book about how amazon google uber have improved their customer experience to reduce the amount of friction and thus make it easier to do business with them right. We'll play already mentioned one. Click ordering and i it doesn't seem like that remarkable thing. I remember <hes> well <hes> well but when it came out <hes> actually jeff bezos was talking about frictional shopping way back in one thousand ninety seven where most people are still trying to figure out what he commerce was right and <hes> they patented one click ordering in ninety eight and at the time time i remember hearing about that saying they can't no you can't patent something just like click a button and placing well in fact it turned out that you could patent it and they defended it in court at great cost and eventually a- forced other competitors like barnes and noble to adequate because barnes and noble was doing it they had mimicked the one click ordering and they ended up having to add a second click. Now you say well. What's the big deal you know one one extra click in the process <hes> but you know amazon does not think that way <hes> in fact <hes> someone else who didn't think that away at the time was steve jobs because they were just starting up their music store then to go without their ipad and they said okay. We need this feature. We wanted to be as frivolous as possible for our customers to order so they didn't mess around. They didn't try and fight the patent like barnes and noble did we just went to base in licensed and they incorporated it and of of course we all know what happened. They became by far the dominant music store so you know just <hes> <hes> you know. We don't think about those little tiny steps that click here. Click click there. Oh we got to scroll down a little bit and that's not a problem. It's easy but all that stuff makes a difference. Another thing that amazon has done <hes> about a dozen years or so ago <hes> they saw sava customers were struggling with these retail packages. You know these plastic clam shells that are heat sealed and they're very nice for retail. They're hard to steal from the store. They show off the product doc nicer because you can see through them but once you get them home and try and get into them you know you need <hes> implements you can get into him with your bare hands stabbing yourself with sharp plastic gauges and it's it's a real struggle and they said okay <hes> what we can fix this and they came up with frustration repackaging and these are simple cardboard board boxes. <hes> customers can get into them easily. They do not require power tools. <hes> the risk of injury is low and they're better for the environment and here's here's the amazing thing clay <hes> not only people like the packages better <hes> amazon found that there was a seventy three percent reduction in negative feedback about the products that were packaged that way so the odds of dealing with packaging ended up making the product itself seemed better so i mean it's it's <hes> i'll people don't even recognize <hes> but when they make customers work harder <hes> that affects the whole experience. I want to tell myself real quick if you're out there and you're married to somebody like me who just just destroys cereal boxes. I really don't eat a lot of cereal but he kinda box requires any type of tactile skill. I just bludgeoning the thing with a sharp object to get into. Would you know and there's certain brands. They have figured it out to make it really easy but i'm not very intuitive gui rancher you know it's like it's hard for me to figure stuff out and i remember the first time i had to book. I knew i was in denver and i remember it like it was yesterday. I was in denver colorado to meet with my good friend and business partner with oxy fresh there. They're in denver and he says clay. Why don't you just uber. I go <hes> what zuber this was like seven eight years ago this is why don't you just uber and i'm going. How do you do bring us. When you download the app and then you book it and i remember just now. It's going to be like it's gonna take forever. It's gonna be like going on the i._r._s. website. It's gonna you know roger. You know you know the drill limping and it's going to be some new technology. I don't have time to learn a new technology. All i wanna do is get home from the four i seasons restaurant with my beautiful wife and then i went on to uber and it was like tear but boom boom and i booked my uber that was awesome so much easier than waving at a taxi. It was so much easier than calling the hotel to get to get taxi. Can you talk to us about uber and how they've been been able to use friction lists or marketing or systems or processes that reduce the amount of friction to dramatically grow that brand well yeah. I think there's two pieces that you highlighted there. Clay first of all is the our on boarding process was simpler than you expected and another company that <hes> <hes> was worth a whole lot of money a what's app. I'll was grew in part because their on boarding process was so simple dinette set up username dentist. You have to choose a password. I saw user experience guy tear down their on boarding process and <hes> you could be up and running in less than two minutes and inviting your your friends who of course could then be bored easily themselves and that's one reason why in even though there were tons of messaging apps available whatsapp grew like crazy <hes> ended up being worth twenty billion or whatever facebook paid for it so that's part of the process but i think the bigger thing is with uber that people did not realize how much friction there was in the taxi process and that's something that i guess i hope that i can accomplish with my book is letting people see friction where it exists even were. They haven't been aware of it. <hes> you know because he just sort of accepted like unless you had a really bad tax experience like hit a stand in the rain for twenty minutes trying to find one. You didn't think too much about it. Not you know you got it and it was okay paid and it wasn't until uber came along and showed you wow it can be so much easier to get a ride ride to see where they're at if they're not there at exactly when you expected him oh you can see. They're just down the block as opposed to being hey do. They lose me today. You know get my call. What's where's my cab <hes> and then you know you can see the route. You can see when you're gonna arrive. You know that the driver is going to take the long way <hes> to rack up but some <hes> extra money and then getting out even is so simple you know <hes> i often especially traveling. I try and pay by credit card. If i'd take out conventional mentioned taxi and then as high friction experience you know typically <hes> in in fact in other countries in the united states. I often find. I the driver says <hes> machines beans networking and you say well <hes> because they don't wanna pay the <hes> the field. I guess and i say well okay. I got no cash. So what are we going to do and then reaches under the front seat pulls machine out fires up tries to get an internet connection on it and you know it's it's like a three minute process <hes> and then you've got to figure out <hes> <hes> <hes> how to tip on it and just it's so stressful when you know with uber it's like here we are goodbye and it's it's that simple and now oh i you know before. I never really thought too much about the taxi process but of course now if i have to ride in a conventional taxi it's like wow this really sucks compared to hoover and it's so once once you see it. You really can't stop seeing it now. Did you go to manhattan very much. There roger not too often but i'd go there occasionally. One thing that i i i have discovered about the manhattan is that everybody in manhattan is taking a car that they don't own because it's impossible to find a parking space every you know and it was like i'm sure there's a lot of people who've experienced the idea of hey waving down taxicab in paying them in this process. We've all had the thought. There's has got to be a better way. Perhaps the vehicles could smell better. It would be awesome if we could rate the driver who drove as though he was trying to engage in some kind of gym or jewelry henry heist. You're in the car. This guy's trying to race against the government and the p._s. I've had those drivers on it. Just smells certain smells that have been discovered inside these vehicles and i'm sure many many many people have thought about. There's gotta be a better way but you know the books uber actually obsessed about it and sat down and did it. They're entrepreneurs. The folks at google google sat down and thought about it. Larry and sergei thought about travis at uber thought about it talk to me about for the listeners out there who are going okay. I believe even i believe in this dream. I'm going to buy this book right now. Friction the untapped force that can be your most powerful advantage on a practical level how most small business owners act on what you're teaching today. What are what are things that we can action steps that all of our small business owners who are listening right now could immediately begin into apply within their own businesses well. I think that once you start seeing the varied examples and if you've glanced book you know that there are quite a few different kinds of examples in the book <hes> you start seeing friction in your own processes. You can start seeing things that maybe your customers. Don't complain about even but that you see could be done off quicker with less effort and that's how you win. <hes> if everybody's complaining about your process you're probably already dead. You know it's past the point of no return but <hes> you know if people are tolerating it off but you can see ways to improve it. That's how you gain share against your competition and all you know at the beginning of the book okay start with a short fable about friction goggles and i suggest that at the end of the book <hes> people will each have their own metaphorical pair of friction goggles. There are no real goggles involved but what i mean by that is that they will start seeing friction where they didn't see it before in the same way that i was describing we see friction action in taxes now that we didn't really see before uber and you know there's a reason for that. There's actually some neuroscientist circle around beck neuroscience klay. The brain brain has what is called the activating system the e._s. <hes> and its job is to filter out everything that is important so if you are crossing the street in in times square <hes> it will filter out everything except the crosswalk sign oncoming cars and the people right around you because you don't need all those ten thousand other distractions distractions trying to confuse you and you know having a stop in the middle of st wondering what you're doing now <hes> that's usually very useful thing but <hes> it does filter out stuff that you can see and so like if you're always have a certain experience <hes> you just don't see the friction that experience because it's it's normal i can give me an example of how <hes> perhaps you and your listeners have experienced. There are e._s. and action. If you've ever bought a new car and like week after you buy had some of these start seeing all these other cars look like years say model seen caller holy cow halicki. I never noticed that before. Where were they. You know those cars were always there where it's just that now your particular car has assumed a much greater importance to your r._e._i._s. because it's yours it start seeing other ones like at elsewhere and letting them through your brain where before to screen them out with all the others <hes> in so once you start seeing examples of friction by reading about them in the book and also by <hes> experiencing insinger them as you look at your business or your own interactions with other businesses <hes> you will see more and more friction because your brain will say okay. This is important. <hes> you know this is unnecessary. Effort <hes> <hes>. I should pay attention to that. <hes> and it may be kind of frustrating. <hes> you know it's sort of like developing your palate for wine. It's good news and bad news of cheap wine used to white light before it doesn't taste quite as good now but at the same time you can appreciate <hes> <hes> in understand. Why a lot better so you know you may be frustrated as you see more friction but at the same time it gives you a chance to do something about it now. I want to ask you what's wrong with my are- activating system. This is a new word for our listeners and i just wanna make sure i'm kinda. You know stepping in the water with this word here. Throw some neuroscience atucha there well well my my wife and i took my wife on a trip down to cancun if you can picture it all inclusive resort down there and heavy guana donnas. They're like the size of a dog yeah. I've seen those cosmo cancun the other huge and so we're walking down the path you know and every tourist and everybody's like wow looks like there's an iguana. We should probably get out of the way but i because of my ridiculous activating system or my optic focus whatever that is. It's like my superpower that allows me to sit down and write a book. I could write a book you know and four consecutive days and not really be interrupted booboo boo boo boo boo not distracted on not curious. Who's calling me or emailing me. He just totally myopically focused that is my superpower is also my super weakness scare. It's scary. Sometimes i stepped on an iguana about the size of a dog and my wife watched it happened and she was you know why would you do that. How did you not see all the tourists are whom after dealing with that situation my wife joked with me about it and then i hop in the pool split slash swimming in the pool having a good time and then there's an iguana that gets into the pool and it's just it's like that's actually the one who stepped out his chance to take you under no. Here's this iguana hops any dude and i'm just swimming. Everyone else gets out of the pool. I'm oblivious to it. Put another example. Do my wife talks to me. While i'm driving. I immediately go into the shoulder and almost killer family every time so i just wanna know what's wrong with my reticulation activating system why i don't know maybe it's filtering a little bit too much there and you know if if you're going to step on a large lizard it's probably let that information through you know you. Can i fix that sears. That's like my power. I don't know maybe maybe watch some nature videos about iguanas work. Okay okay so well. You know i guarantee. If you step on one and turns around and bites you <hes> that will tell your brain okay. This is really important to pay attention to and you'll never step on the second one. Oh my gosh i am. I gotta i gotta work on that. Hey paint is a motivator. I gotta have andrew just go out and <hes> gonna set it out there when i walk in and he's he's a slap me with a big stick or something then i'll they're learning the the system now a couple of final questions. I have here for you. People are out there. They're thinking about buying friction. They're getting and i i know i bought a copy of it but somebody's somebody's thinking about buying a copy of the book right now and they're going well. I'm looking on amazon right now and it's one click but it's seventeen fifty three on primary think hardcovers twenty ninety four seventy five and they're going. I don't want to spend money on a book that could change my life when i could just by regrettable purchases at a local convenience store and lottery tickets kitts and cheap wine. Why would i possibly invest in my future. When i could buy these things i don't need. Can you give us the twenty four seventy five twenty four hours thirty five cents a pitch as to why everybody needs to pick up a copy of this book because i peruse the book i've gone through the book and i'm saying you should buy this book. Maybe somebody else awesome objections encourage our listeners. Why should we ve okay you know. I i think <hes> <hes> round just justifying my book. I think that <hes> i might have been seth godin. That says a book is the best investment you can make because you know for <hes> fifteen twenty twenty five bucks <hes> you can the benefit from this person's <hes> years and years of experience and detailed research you know if you wanted to hire that person of for day to advise you you that would cost you thousands and thousands of dollars yup <hes> but you know for this <hes> minimal some you know you can get something that they worked on <hes> four years i mean i would say the typical business book <hes> the author earth spent probably at least a couple years writing it and it is a based on all even more years of experience in research so <hes> you know you. It's really a very small expense and again. It's a lot cheaper than other types of learning one other thing. I would point out too. Is that <hes> these days. It is audible or audiobooks are becoming an increasingly popular format and they're actually catching up to e books as a format because people consume them <hes> anytime you know when they're driving jim when they're going for a walk and <hes> there there. It's only one credit so you know it's <hes> it's pretty democratic system. It's it's great but you know as far as friction goes. I think that <hes> what i would i would hope people can get out of it and justify that <hes> <hes> purchase price first of all are seeing friction in their own customer experiences and others where where can and <hes> their business do a little bit better job of serving the customer eliminate those on minor points of friction. You know just that extra scroll that extra click <hes> that extra field the form. That isn't absolutely necessary but someone said oh. We ought to ask them that <hes> stuff like that <hes> <hes> but once they start seeing it they're also start seeing those those friction points in their own company procedures that are that efficient meetings aren't really accomplishing anything <hes> that have people in them that don't really need to be there off. <hes> there's an study that was published in harvard business review of an estimated that every year u._s. businesses waste three trillion dollars in what they they call organizational drag drag is another word <hes> being an engineer for friction <hes> the out what they meant by that was <hes> businesses are wasting their wasting the time of their people with all rules. <hes> 'cause extra effort. Don't really produce a benefit for the company. I mentioned meetings in dealing with e mail. That is an absolutely necessary. People spend couple hours a day on email. Show you know and that is not usually very reproductive. Time spent occasionally sure you can you know part of it might be very important but a lot of it is just dealing with stuff that you've got clear your inbox. It probably wouldn't have been in there in the first first place. <hes> you know there's so much <hes> friction like people are understanding. Why are we gonna make z. As possible for the customers to order but <hes> the flip side of that is <hes> you need to make it as easy as possible for your own people to do the job <hes> their job because <hes> you know they will first of all the people understand when they are wasting their time. You know if they're being forced to do something because this is the procedure. This is the process <hes> they know that oh oh gee you know this. This is not productive but i gotta do it. <hes> and that is not motivating <hes> gallup <hes> a gallup poll show that eighty five percent of the people surveyed surveyed were not engaged with their job or their employment situation. They're kind of mentally checked out somewhat <hes> ah repeat that real quick though there is a hard stat that somebody out there needs to embrace because what you just said i mean i know that you're aecom guy but that's is an intense testing. Can you repeat that statistic. One more time. Gallup survey showed that eighty five percent of the people they surveyed were not engaged with their lawyer so <hes> you know and one reason for that is because <hes> you know their time isn't respected <hes> their effort isn't respected in many countries have this sort of command and control situation where they have procedures that are based on lack of trust. You know well okay. This is how the expense reporting system system works and you've this is these are the forms after this documentation you have to provide <hes> is as streamlined as it could be no but <hes> you know there's this <hes> eater lack lack of trust in some cases <hes> that requires extra work or it's just a poorly designed process that nobody really took a look at they just figured hey people want their money. They're going to fill up an armed forms so so <hes> you know one way of combating lack of engagement this to show that <hes> you as a company or you as a boss are actively trying to make your employees job easier. That's something that you know really change people's perception when it's not about gee. How can i get these people to work harder and get their job done faster astor instead it. So how can we make their job easier on. That's a whole different mindset but has a whole lot of benefits. You know what i'm gonna do right now is. I'm not gonna say that if you don't buy a copy of rogers book. I'm not gonna say that you are a communist if you don't buy a copy of rogers book but i am i am saying that the communist national anthem which i typically don't play a lot on the show just happens to be playing in the background right. There and i and i don't know how that was cute up sure why would would cure for song like desert at this time. I don't know but <hes> i've just say that. Some would say not me. No no no no not not wanting to use apotheosis to push book sales. I'm just saying is that andrew amana purpose a man who's mike is muted and emanuel has no ability to defend himself but i know that he is only playing the communist national national anthem right now just mere coincidence. They're just but if you don't you you gotta go. Gotta go by the book. It's not because we're not saying you're a communist if you don't buy a copy of rogers book but barrage if i want to buy a copy of your book make it friction less for me working i buy the book you can buy it. Most places where books are sold amazon on of course is probably the lowest frictions are especially since i write about how low friction they are in the book but if you like <hes> in person you can check out barnes and noble and other bookstores ores as well roger. It has been absolute delight having you on the show. Hopefully this was not the the worst podcast. I always want to be the second worst or the third the worst of the worst podcast you've ever been on but i really do appreciate you my friend you are you are <hes> a wealth of knowledge. Well klay <hes>. This is far from the worst. It's been a blast last and i have to tell you. It's the first one where i've heard <hes> <hes> soviet marshal music playing of assuming that's what that was good on that <hes> that that is the first and you know i think that part of their problem was excess bureaucracy and red tape and <hes> note was one of the reasons that they change systems systems and their tape was actually read to in the literal not only the figure yes. That's very present. President impressive roger is just dropping knowledge bombs left and right roger. Thank for being on the show my friend well. Thank you claire. It's really really been a lot of fun all right. Take care now any further ed do. It's time to end this show with a boom but if you're out there today and your your website is running slow your creighton friction for your customers just email us info at thrive time. Show dot com email us to info info at drive time show dot com email us right now you you talking to you talking to me now. 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