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Seattle business owner in former CHOP says 4 months later, area still not back to normal
"Save lives period he's suing the city of Seattle over the former chop zone. Now, one of the area's business owner says months after the occupation His neighborhood is still not back to normal car radios. Nicole Jennings has the Lady owner of Rich Mark label on Pine Street, says protests and violence have quieted down. But so his business all in all, it has been calmer. No disruption for us, not much activity upon the hill. Still, most places are bordered up. Some have opened a little bit. It's got sort of a ghost town feel. Bill Donner says Those boards were staying up because businesses aren't assuming they're out of the woods. Yet he supports both protesters and police and hopes
Spooky Stories Week
"This week's theme comes to us from Shane McClellan and is called spooky stories. Here's why chose this theme he writes Hey. My name is Shane McClellan. I'm the creator of the files podcast and theme I chose is spooky stories because while October the spookiest time of the year. Here, are the episodes chosen by Shane for this week's theme along with short descriptions of each episode. The first episode comes to us from old gods of Appalachia and is called prologue. It's nine minutes long. Welcome to our APPALACHIA. We're hearts are good. Hands are. And no one wants to talk about what sleeps beneath us. The next episode comes to us from the cue files and is called the Donner Party, it's twenty three minutes long. This is the horrifying story of the Donner Party told like never before. Next up is scare you sleep and the episode is called Cannibals it's thirty seven minutes long. Spooky soothing unnerving bedtime stories. The next episode comes to us from stories with Sapphire and is called Dula for death. It's twenty nine minutes long. Listening for unique perspectives on death. and. The last episode of the week comes to us from euphemistic and it's called a vampire feeds. It's thirty three minutes long. Here's the description real vampires the draining of blood, the feeding on others and the quest to keep others fed. Those are the episodes chosen by Shane for this week's theme Spooky Stories.
Sen. Chris Coons believes John McCain and John Lewis each left us an urgent message
"Chris coons welcome back to the PODCAST. Great to be on with you again. Jonathan. Let's start with the debate between president trump and vice president biden in Cleveland. You were there in preparation for a column that I wrote about the debate was looking for pictures as saw a picture in our system of you sitting in the audience in a mask and the look on your face even in the mask told a story talk about what it was like being at that debate in also given what we know. Now, what was it like being at the debate? Look it was bad enough with what we knew at the time Chris Wallace is someone I respect as a tough interviewer as a capable moderator. Struck, that from the literal opening sentence president trump was bullying him was insulting the audience was razzing in her racing. The former vice president did not in any way at any moment recognize or respect the rules that he agreed to. For this debate, I've been an elected official. Twenty years have been active in politics thirty. I've been to my share of rough and tumble debates particularly at local campaigns and I've had my share of unconventional onus but that was unbelievable. It was simply awful to sit through the rush the raw force of the negative aggressive insulting interrupting. Energy directed by President Trump at former vice president, Biden and the audience and our country in the world. One of my sons immediately following the debate texted me. They must be cheering in Russia and China the team of us that were out there to do sort of post debate spin rapid response for the Biden campaign were just silent as a group for minutes. Afterwards, it was really hard to endure. So Joe Biden Dr Jill Biden former second lady Joe Biden was about ten feet to my left and Mark Meadows and Don Jr. about ten feet to my right. And it was striking that they all walked in unmasked and sat there without masks through the entire thing even as staff person, I think a staff physician from the Cleveland. Clinic. Came around and try to get them to wear masks and it was striking to me at the time just how sweaty. Read how angry trump seemed through the whole thing. Later, when we learned that he was infected with Covid, nineteen may well have been covered positive for that debate. It added a layer of the and seriousness to the fact that he was literally yelling at Joe Biden for ninety minutes from a few feet away. I. Got Tested twice actually once rapid s one. The PTR test both negative, and then waited and waited hoping in until we got a negative test confirmation for a joe and Joe Biden there's now a covid nineteen outbreak at the White House that has infected I think at last count twenty one people including senators, senior members of the president's team as well as president trump and first lady Melania trump staff. Of the White House reporters and they are still refusing to do even the most minimal contact tracing ordered to publicly embrace a relevant public health standards. So what was already a horrifying experience being in the room for that debate? Then over the next week has sort of turned into a slow rolling horror as the president has made his own covert infection into. A piece of political theater and is now being replayed on cable shows all day a proudly taking off his mask and recording. Then re recording his triumphant reentry still infected to the white. House. I I was gobsmacked at the visual of Marine One swooping in to MED EVAC the president of the United. States to a military hospital then three days later watching this. One swoop back in and take him back to the White House for this cinematic return even though he is infected even though once he climbed all those stairs, you can see him gasping for air you have been in public life for more than twenty years you are on the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee. You travel around the world and talk to world leaders in this statesman position that. You're in how do you even explain this to the world if you can well Jonathan I, you know, I, do think it's important that Joe. Biden Joe Biden and the whole Biden campaign team step back they took down attack ads. They publicly expressed their concern, their prayers for the president first. Lady and their health as did I as did most liberal leaders in our country president trump. Does. Get absolutely world class healthcare. He was whisked by Marine One helicopter from the fortress like White House to a dedicated wing at Walter Reed Army Medical Hospital. There is a dedicated presidential sort of sweet over there and he was treated with a cocktail of the most cutting edge treatments that your average American doesn't even have access to the combination of the widely used disappear with the. Less, widely used steroid that's commonly applied for those who are in some distress and a new monoclonal antibody treatment that's not yet approved for general use and he comes back saying several days later. Oh I feel better than I've ever felt better than twenty years before there's nothing to be afraid of don't let this virus room in your life. He even said that he thinks he's immune. I mean. He is the world's leading source of. About this pandemic and has inspired imitators from the president of Brazil to things said and done by Putin who declared that he had a effective vaccine before there was any stage three clinical trials, donner results released.
Dow futures down more than 200 points after Fed minutes note concerns
"Really, the big issue in the market is those fed minutes that we had yesterday. The path to the U. S recovery depends on the virus was the theme the summary from those minutes and that really dampened the actually rally and optimism about second half growth. In the U. S. Also you have three US ending extradition attacks Agreements with Hong Kong The Hang saying is down by 2% this morning my whole Kong index jobs 2.2%. We're in the red really Across Asia. Asia Pacific is down by 1.6% also futures significantly hit. Really? You're on the USO USO 50 features slump 1.4% this morning as a P 500 even if each is down by 6/10 of 1%, even though he saw European actions yesterday rised by 7/10 of 1% at the close Thie Donner rebounded after the Fed minutes on DH clings onto a little bit of that positivity building on the valley. A touch this morning up Almost 1/10 of 1% Treasuries has 66 basis points Yields down to basis points. Gold Momentum is there are 9/10 of 1 December was still below 3946. And then don't forget. We get results from Ali Baba later on today, so that's data the market will be watching out
The Dark Knight Trilogy (Nolan #4)
"Welcome to film spotting so Josh. We've arrived at the stage of our Nolan who've review where we've actually reviewed the films on the show previously the first three films in the series following Memento and insomnia all predate film spotting this week. We're revisiting Nolan's dark knight trilogy. Two thousand five's Batman begins which started. It was one of the first films reviewed on the show. Way Back in two thousand five. That movie came out in June. The show began in March of. Oh five unfortunately. Our Review on episode eighteen of the show has been archived in the basement of Wayne Industry headquarters along with all the other films. Spotting PROTOTYPES COW. Can't hear me out among the disappointed listeners. Who went to search for that review? Just today thinking I'd be able to hear Sam. I thought it would be good preparation you know like to do. My homework. Couldn't find it so we'll have to unearth that at some point. Yeah I'll have to give you a tutorial on searching the archive film spotting website. Because it's there but you can bet. I did not seek it out interest in listening to the archive that I found only went back to. I forget what show but it wasn't this one so yeah I'll have to get to to`real but with that review lost a time. I guess the best thing we can do for now is move on to version two point. Oh world like to disappear. Barron staff was not for the parents to serve. Justice cannot let pass. If you yourself and you become something else. Dialing our Christopher Nolan overview stays on chronological track at least for the moment with two thousand five's Batman Begins Adam. This is Nolan's big-budget high profile. Follow up to insomnia which itself was a medium budgeted studio. Follow up to his indie breakout. Memento what did I expect from Batman begins in two thousand? Five Nolan was already on my radar as a special talent superhero movies. Were something I enjoyed but aside from Tim Burton's Batman Installments and Sam Raimi's Spiderman Efforts Spiderman. Too by the way came out in two thousand and four I felt Comic Book Films. Usually fell into a fairly predictable box. The question for Batman begins then was whether or not the John. Laura would bend to Nolan's promise or Nolan would bend to the genre in two thousand five to my mind. Nolan's will one out even next to Burton and Raimi's Work Nolan's take on the superhero film stood out as distinct. It was dark. It was intense and above all it was rooted in a real world. Specificity that was recognizable while building his costume. I love that Bruce Wayne Orders some ten thousand bat ears that turn out to be unusable. This Bruce Wayne and even Batman could exist just like us he had to do Amazon returns. That first impression of Batman begins makes me think that I watched it through the Lens of a Superhero Movie. Perhaps with tempered expectations this time. Though in the midst of our review I was decidedly watching it through the Lens of a Christopher Nolan movie and from that perspective keeping in mind masterful later efforts like the prestige which was Nolan's next film the Dark Knight which doubles down on much of what made Batman begins so throwing inception and dunkirk. That begins played as far more conventional. It has Nolan touches to be clear deception traumatized characters narrative twist but they each seemed a bit better towards the genre this time around something of a compromise. If in understandable one given where Nolan was in his career ultimately I think my original impression is probably the correct one and we can maybe get into a tangent here atom on whether or not a films original context matters. Most I think that's especially applicable. Maybe to dark knight rises but either. Way Adam. I'm curious what frame of mind you're in while revisiting Batman begins for our Nolan overview. Did you approach it as a superhero movie which in twenty twenty means contending with the reality of the MC you or did you assess it more? On a Nolan scale you know from interstellar on the bottom to the top where you'll find dunkirk. How dare you? I love how you unnerve me heading into my reply here and maybe that's appropriate because even though you answered it. I see what you're trying to do I'm onto you. You're actually previewing are pending discussion of the Dark Knight by presenting me with a joker like Dilemma Harvey. Rachel press the button and kill the other passengers. Risk them killing me Nolan movie or Superhero Movie. Your just an agent of chaos. Josh always knew what do I look like a guy with plan on one hand? I wasn't looking at this film. This trilogy of films as a Nolan creation consciously and I am it would be happening unconsciously of course just by the nature of this little project that we have set out on at the same time. I was eager to see this origin story again because just like I suppose bruce being forever scarred by his encounter with the bats I'm gonNA forever be blessed with the memory of my first superhero movie. Richard Donner's Superman. It's been talked about a little bit over the years here on the show and among its many thrills it shows us who Clark is how we got Earth those early discoveries of his gifts running alongside the train kicking that football. This first demonstrations of his abilities and helping people as Superman. That's the stuff I ate up. Then that's the stuff. I still eat up now. The Fun stuff. I guess that equate with Superhero movies. That is lost the darker. You alluded to this the darker. The more realistic the more serious. These movies get honestly the more these films feel less like Superman and more like James Bond. And that's definitely the case in this trilogy. I think this is where we really see. It happen right. Where Superhero Movies did turn into? Something else became something else in pop culture. We watched it unfold over the course of these. Three movies didn't we? I think that's fair. I think you could roll in watchmen there but that was two thousand nine so this was ahead of that.
Chicago parade honors nurses at Mount Sinai Hospital
"Parades continue Donner nurses across Chicago the Chicago police department's ten district held a procession this morning with flashing lights one of the nurses at Mount Sinai hospital Michelle Missouri accused the chief nursing officer there I don't think we consider ourselves heroes this really is our calling and I think it's just really highlighting during this crisis what nursing what medicine is about this week is national nurses week
Ding Dongs in the Way
"Book back to almost famous minute. Where we're discussing. The two thousand Cameron Crowe Film almost famous. One Minute at a time. I'm Eric Nash. From feels like weezer foresight from. Let's say edge of tomorrow minute. Mcc pleasant From the World. I'm a comedy writer and Just elated welcome. Suzy glad to have you on my. I think I became most aware of you at least kind of recently from a star wars minute and and then then even recently. You're on bull. Durham in it. I got I am tearing up the minute scene. Yeah it's pretty great. You're knocking out a wide range of genres to hear from. Yeah yeah to the sports to the Rock Rock Music Rock Music David. This is your first time with us too. I shouldn't they certainly shouldn't forget you but you're kind of our our unofficial co host happening. He's cuppers minutes that we're going to have you. Yeah good good to be here Big Fan of this movie some. I'm happy to do as much. Co host duties. You need me for saying yeah thank you. Yeah we always have. We always have either of you back For other minutes but this man is meant forty six week and it starts with Russell getting electrocuted and ends with Marc Maron yelling at the band in the electrocution scene man. That's pretty grisly. I think Russell does a pretty good job of well not Russell. But you know that actor's name thank you. Yeah it seems to try and say it disappears from Ed. Bill does a good job of making me feel like he is a real lump of meat that just got cooked on a state of man. It's it's disturbing Yanni really keeps it up to. I mean it's there's there's parts during the sped next to especially Where he just he just really continues to be really out of it really well that they didn't know one called it an ambulance. That's buried the seventy lake. We're like mine. You're just got electrocuted a little bit. Because because I've got a little bit of a morbid streak I had to look up other famous onstage electrocutions. Ooh Yeah so Turns George Harrison was electrocuted in the let it be documentary so you can actually watch him put his lips to the megaphone and get like a little shaky doesn't collapse or anything like that but he does sort of back off shows a little bit of visible pain and you can find that clip on YouTube Keith Richards I was thinking I was going to have to wait until Peter Jackson's done here with Dr. Welby reassembling of Lee keeping it in keeping that part. Maybe that'll be the focus of it. Now lose be like the movie where George gets electrocuted Keith. Richards was also electrocuted. But it was much more like what happens on stage here In nineteen sixty five in Sacramento. His Guitar bumped into an ungrounded MIC stand. Apparently sparks flew in. There was a loud bang and the manager actually thought that Keith had been assassinated. They did rush him to the hospital unconscious and heap. He did not wake up until I think it was later that day in the hospital and he woke up and said man that was good. Probably Rush. I think I'll do that. I thought of. I haven't seen a movie since it came out in theaters And so I forgot. I forgot everything because I know a larger memory and yeah so when I watched the minute before I went back in like watch the rest of the movie And I was like Oh if he on drugs flake I was like are they pretending to be elected because he's on drugs like I couldn't remember if there was like a drug thing so anyway but but it makes sense that he gets electrocuted. I guess it's just like because you don't think about rockstars. Getting electrocuted probably happens a lot less than it did in the seventy S or sixty S. Or whatever when you know now that technology is pretty good like but I wonder if anybody has recently only guess you looked it up like actually. Isn't that famous? Still have you for sure there? I mean there's a long string of them from the seventy so it was definitely like a you know we quit and quite figured out how to ground these things yet. like As freely was electrocuted from kiss and he actually wrote a song about it called shock me later on and then but there are actually people who died from electrocution In the seventies. Yeah Yeah let's Harvey from stone. The crows which was sort of a pub rock band in the early Seventies. He died in in Wales from poorly grounded. Mike Electrocution and Keith Ralph. From the yardbirds died in his basement recording studio from an improperly grounded guitar apparently but yet there's actually a kind of a grisly video. You can find of the band. Hot Hot heat Playing an outdoor festival in Ohio. Somewhere in I don't remember exactly what year it was like. Fairly like the twenty tens. I think where the one of the guitar players get electrocuted and collapses and it's very similar to this like no one really realizes what's happened until he's been laying on the ground for a couple of seconds and then you know the music kind of slowly fades out and everyone in the crowd was like what's going on and it so it's it's still sort of a modern problem. I think trying to put on an outdoor show with you know. Weather conditions in long runs of cable across a field and things like that makes it more dangerous. But Yeah Yeah. I didn't realize how dangerous rock and roll lists the threat and there's other I think really good acting and decides besides just Russell Billy's You know I mean there's there's all this confusion is going on you know and then that's that's actually what jeff bb says. Hey what's going on we here? We also hear like this. Maybe I got it from somewhere or some Transcript site whatever but stinking stinking roads you know so. A roads roads fender bass wise at coming roads. Some some kind of Either Anchor Guitar. Some sort is the root. It's like a brand name erodes Oregon too but I didn't see any of that hanging out instead. Yeah and noticed that both Jeff and Russell. Have like to have two microphones on their MIC stand Sort of tied together which was kind of a weird seventies thing that they did do. That was Sometimes if they rip especially if they were recording the show. You'd have one Mike that fed the PA in one that went to the recording stuff But apparently the grateful dead also did this sort of a weird early form of noise canceling because they would they would put their speakers. Grateful dead put their speakers behind them and did a lot of like weird separation so like the base when we came out of this portion and the guitar came out of his portion to train gift. Things a little more dynamic separation but apparently if you put too close together and you do one in positive polarity in one in negative polarity sort of does some fancy noise cancelling thing on really know but apparently is common in the seventy s until we figured out you know plug ins and laptops and things so very cool. I'm writing so much I do have been baby myself. I was GonNa say you wonder if he's ever seen that before but yeah well the the big thing I've seen is that You know it looks. It seems like there's there's a there's a fair amount of duct tape that I think has happened there at at at Russell's microphone and I've seen lead singer do that before I've done sound work with a few bands quite a few years ago. There was one that Kevin just started going crazy with taping like okay. If you want to do that you're that that's interesting. I wouldn't at seems unsafe. Well I don't know. Duct tape is Great. I guess no don't don't don't know absolutely. I never thought I came from the south. Everything's held together with duct tape. I'm the other thing that that that's at. The very beginning of it is the that the plumbing song is ending. I mean it's not really ending. That's not supposed to end but it's ends because of everyone leaving their instruments in running towards wrestling then than certainly away getting off the stage but You know in the draw. I think in a normal fashion. I think the drums are kind of the one that kind of goes along. The drummer can just be on his own groove and I mean he's sexy Griffin centrally and. Yeah he and he can't maybe can't see what's happening sunders obstruction. Yeah Ding dongs. Away can't Ding dongs meaning drums. Let's that's what I'm gonNA call them now. You know what I'm talking about the hidden things drummers love it when you call me being Donner's I think too so. Oh Yeah Yeah. They totally loved that. Because it's very cool in rock and roll.
New Childish Gambino? Donald Glover Drops Surprise Album
"The actor slash comedian slash childish Gambino guy has released a new childish Gambino I thought he killed that guy off yeah people say those things don't they they do so the motley crews in the weight room getting ready to go tour again so hopefully I got and the people care deeply so childish Gambino is back with a new album a bunch of new songs are streaming on a website called Donner Donald Glover presents dot com the link to the site was retweeted by his manager they're streaming a track from twenty eighteen call feels like summer and then songs that appear to feature Arianna Grande twenty one savage of fans are also saying that says it appears although maybe they're just not doing credits here his last album awaken my love was back at this in twenty
"donner" Discussed on It Happened In Hollywood
"Some great stuff in that story there first of all Mankiewicz not name definitely rings a bell. So who is he chip? Well Tom Mankiewicz was the son of Joseph. Mangku it's okay wrote and directed all about eve and then he's the nephew of Herman Mankiewicz. Who wrote Citizen Kane so quite a movie legacy and then of course Ben Mankiewicz is on Turner Classic Movies? Yes from Anklewicz. Those great uncle or something. I don't know I lost track. But they're all relate. Yeah so I love that image of Richard Donner putting on. This is a superman costume that they gave him running across the lawn to greet his friend and convince them to sign on to do this Rewrite it's quite the image. Yeah and then of course. He showed us a photo later of Christopher. Reeve wearing the costume. That was pretty great so Tom. Mankiewicz is on board rewrite it. So what would you think he meant by like a parody of Parody Lake campy probably and he didn't want that bright so Mario Puzo has written this campy version of Superman two hundred fifty Cami pages. Yeah what do you call it? A parody of parody and I think what he was trying to get at with banquets was something more rooted in reality. Something the audience can really attach themselves to write because until that point superman was a television show in the fifties but it wasn't a serious property and no one really took it that seriously now superman at the time was the TV show in the fifty s which the flying material that they gave us that they had been preparing production for a year. Was that kind of flying. It the guy laying on board with a couple of ropes and smoke being blown by him. I mean that's all they had. We had to start from scratch. Sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you know not at all. I'm curious you know so. People didn't take superman very seriously exactly from that. Show right. That was sort of just kitty stuff. But as a kid you did I remember as a kid. I took that seriously right that Jack Armstrong or whatever that allows the incredible hulk seriously but you watch it now and it's yeah so this was was there ever took the incredible I did. What was your childhood like? I was angry but I'm just wondering because it is still accepted as the template of these serious epic Blockbuster Comic Book Movies that have now completely taken over Hollywood. And I'm wondering if at any point you you all sat and said we can change the way people see comic books. We can make something you know real important and lasting. No no no no no because we hello there were made comic book movies before the TV shows. There were some that. Were done before Superman but I had not seen them. Our approach to it was that this had to have a sense of reality within its own reality and as I said You. Original script took this parody of life imperative on top of it so when it couldn't you couldn't treat it as a reality couldn't treat a love story is a love story. You couldn't treat Clark Kent Lois Lane in Superman has jules and Jim so we approached it just that this had its own reality. It's not real. But it's real within its own moments in time and that approach worked because like you said kids take it seriously and low. We'll seth was. They're taking it seriously. I was taking it seriously. So this tone that he struck really nailed it. Yeah all right. So the movies ago the rewrites happening and of course it came prepackaged with Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman. Right they were not negotiable. But who would want to negotiate nausea hanging in your movie so the problem was they needed a superman. Richard felt since they had two big stars. They didn't need a big star to play superman so they went looking for superman. When I came on the picture it had been in pre production for I think a year or two and They're casting was to approach stars. Who were they at the time? Paul Newman Redford stallone. I mean you name them and they they wanted those people because they wanted a name and I said look you've kind of Marlon Brando and gene. Hackman you don't need a name and not only that if we're GONNA make this thing work I just can't see Robert Redford in tights flying over metropolis. We have to find a new or a real superman and we lots of arguments as you can see. I didn't get along with them and Casting director I need some of my office. Lynn stall master two billion. Yes Oh great Greek theater and he said I saw this kid and I play downtown the other night and I want you to meet and I said swell and we were on the tenth floor of the Sherry Netherlands in New York of Summer Day. Windows were open in the window flies. This kid stands on them window Silva wind blowing in his hair. He steps in is you can fly. That's automatically gets you. The party's thank you know he sat down. Were you going this? And he was very skinny picture and his hair was going to light blond light brown rather put the whole thing was. He was so serious when he talked about the character. And when you read that all of a sudden it was like I'm hearing a myriad the way it was written by the way I wanted but I had a problem. The kid was skinny so that night I went to see him in a same play down in the village and he was wonderful. Really wonderful great presence so I called him back and I said listen. I don't know how are we going to do this? But we're going to build you up. If you he said I was a jock all my life he said and I and I was built up as another fifty pounds heavier. He decided to become an actor. I lost all that weight because I didn't want to. I can you put it back. He said I promise so. We hired him. I mean I shot a screen test with him in that outfit with perspiration rings under the things and Black Shoe Polish hair and my when he did Clark antiwar my worn rim glasses and when he came to England we put him with the actor that was in the wookey. What that Big Peter Mayhew? Yes he was a weightlifter in a body builder and he worked with Chris. And you could actually see a day by day as his body starting to come out so Had we find soup? And that's how I tested so many people because the studio wanted them tested including the dentist of the wife of the producer who physically looked like a mentoring but but poor guy was he was a good dentist has done this Sunday work. Stay away from it. Any fan boys listening. You have to be happy about some of the stuff to back up with. Christopher Reeves trainer to get him bulked up to play Superman seven foot two inch. I'm Peter Mayhew Tobacco King Out. Yeah and now. He's training Superman and a dentist. And then you get a bonus little story about the sleazy producers. Who Somehow got his wife's dentist audition. Yes with this Dennis. We can film seven Superman for the same price a cheap. And he'll do all of our team. That's probably the producers. Pitch all right moving right along so we have. Christopher Reeve this Very little known juilliard. Grad. Doing some local theater New York. Who's now superman right? And they need his romantic foil. The dog a journalist. Lois Lane Margot. Kidder was not necessarily the only choice. There were others and if you go online on Youtube you can see additions of some of the other actresses who tried to be Louis Lane. But here's how Richard got to the decision to cast. Margot we were watching. Some of the Screen tests. They have them on Youtube for Lois Lane. Lesley Ann. Warren wanted them right. Lesley Ann Warren. How about a glass of wine.
"donner" Discussed on It Happened In Hollywood
"I everyone and welcome back to it. Happened in Hollywood the penultimate episode. Did I use that word? Yes right okay next to laugh the next to last of this off season two right. We're still waiting on our pickup for season. Three we're hopeful. His fingers crossed South Abramovich ear senior writer at the Hollywood reporter. And I'm chip pope. This is like a couch gag like a simpsons couch gag. I say something that I see something humorous right. Laugh right exactly. It said well how about just this is where we have a couch gag and that will count as like Meta so the couch gag is the is the couch gag. Yeah like on Samson's they'll have a couch gag and then they'll run away and they'll be another couch or something. This is all right fine. We have something truly fantastic in store for you today. We have director Richard Donner a true Hollywood legend director of some of the most beloved movies of all time. The goonies our beloved guineas lethal weapon series. Yeah he did. The whole lethal weapon series. He did the woman. Wow that exorcist adjacent. Yes supernatural Hara and The topic of this week's episode a movie. That is very important to me Superman. The movie from Nineteen Seventy Eight starring Christopher Reeve and Margot kidder slowest lane and Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman. And that Baid and Valerie perrine what it has to be had here. Wow Yeah incredible. Cast and really the First Big Budget Studio Superhero movie. Yes and the kind of broke the mold. I don't know I watch superhero movies now and they just don't hit the tone. The Way Superman movie did right. So we'll have Richard for you right after the theme song on. Okay welcome back.
"donner" Discussed on Today in True Crime
"We realize that there are a lot of podcast shows to choose from each day and sometimes not enough time to sort through them. All in our new feed park cast daily we filter through your favorite podcast series to highlight the most timely and relevant episode premiering. Each day every Monday through Friday. Discover a new and captivating episode curated specifically for you. That's one new episode from our slate of content handpicked with you in mind. Time is precious. And we've got you covered follow. Park cast daily free on spotify. Or wherever you get your podcasts you can check out more. Par cast shows and a full library of episodes in spotify by searching for par cast in the spotify search bar or by going to spotify dot com slash. Podcast now back to the story on February nineteenth eighteen forty seven. The first relief party reached the Donner Party and began the arduous process of rescuing them from their snowbound camp. It's worth noting. That accounts vary on the exact date of the first reliefs arrival accounts written closer to the actual event. Such as Charles mcglashan book say they arrived on the nineteenth while some more contemporary accounts say they crossed the lake a day earlier however the diary of the First Relief Party kept by Captain Tucker places the Group on the summit on February eighteenth seeming to confirm the former date. My guest host. Carter is here to discuss. The history surrounding the Donner Party's infamous track and how it went so horribly wrong. Thanks when the Donna Reed Party set out for California in the summer of eighteen forty six. It was brimming with optimism. These were families who left their homes. Missouri's seeking religious freedom economic opportunities and cheap land to build a farm. But the Donner Party's plan was built on a misguided foundation. The map they used to guide their way was the emigrants guide to Oregon and California written by Lansford Hastings and explorer. Who never actually traveled the route. He endorsed the quickest path to California hastings misinformation. Put the Donner party behind schedule. Eventually they found themselves snowbound by Truckee Lake on the wrong side of the Sierra Nevada mountain range. The journey put profound amounts of stress on everyone involved leading to fights theft and a number of murders. James read one of the original leaders of the group was exiled early on for stabbing a teamster to death. And William Foster would later kill two of their native American guides for food but the most gruesome crime committed during this whole event may not have happened until mid March eighteen forty seven. The Third Relief Party left only four individuals alive George and Thompson. Donner Levine Murphy and unpopular German migrant named Luis Keys Berg by the time the next rescue party reached the camps only keys. Berg remained. George Donner likely died of gangrene that infected his arm. But TAMSIN and Levine. Murphy's deaths were far more suspicious. All three had been at least partially eaten by keys. Bird was found with some of the donner money on his person he claimed to be saving it for George Donner surviving children when he reached California keys. Berg was accused of six murders but no charges were ever officially brought and he successfully sued his accusers for slander. Receiving one dollar of damages. But the story lived on the Donner Party story would go down in history for the lurid details namely the cannibalism today. This horrifying story of starvation has been to a punchline. History has a way of turning horrific experiences into humor. But maybe if you ever find yourself driving from Nevada to California in the dead of winter you should check to make sure your car won't run out of gas..
Lightning Labs Beta Tests Its First Paid Product: Lightning Loop
"Is lightning loop. Yes sure so. Lightning loop is a product that we had lightning lobster developed to make it more efficient to send receive bitcoin on the leading network and the nature of lightning is such that you have amazing speed amazing skill ability and very low fees but there there is a requirement of liquidity. And what that means is if you want to receive funds on lightning you need what we call inbound liquidity to do so and this is more obvious to the average individual but if you WanNa send funds you need funds on the side that you're going to sentence you need the ability to save money in your account as lighting Luke does is it helps people relocate their funds in the network so for example if a lot of people have sent me funds on lightning already and I no longer have that inbound capacity liquidity as we call it I then can no longer keep perceiving those funds so lighting could actually help people by moving their funds from lightning back to the bitcoin. Blockchain Nagas Odio manner so they could keep receiving and and then similarly If you want to send funds online and you can actually refill your channel. Think of it as refilling an account using lightning by swapping funds from the Bitcoin blockchain onto to lightning So in analogy. I sometimes use Luke. Inas be calling you refill. Your channel is kind of like Refilling your prepaid debit card or a couch loop out is a little bit harder. Because we don't usually have that concept but if you had a cash full of cash and you actually did take cash out and then you can continue to receive money in that register. Not so that works. So Relating Louisville product we already had it in Alpha had quite a lot of startups involved Some great folks like fold have been users of it and it's helping. Their businesses is helping them. More effectively center received funds enlightening. And we've gotten a lot of good feedback so far and we announced the Beta with increase limits for people to be able to move their funds in and out of lightening from the decline `Blanche blockchain and would have the limit spin. And what are they now so lightning that were generally today has a limit of around fifteen hundred. US dollars per channel so channels are kind of like accounts on the network people open multiple channels between two participants. Anouk there's also a transaction action limit Which is point zero four to BTC? So it's about three hundred three fifty dollars. Depending upon the Bitcoin of the day loop originally was capped. Ah previously at half. That's about one fifty now. It's up to around three hundred three fifty and that will stay in place while the cats are present on the lightning network more broadly. But there's something called one Bo kind of like jumbo. W that is derived from spongebob. And crash relying co-founder lawlor spongebob. I just missed the whole. Spongebob thing but he's really is about larger channel sizes on lining doing so today. We soldiers limits in place chose to do so for safety and security reasons but with one Bo it will be opt in larger channel sizes so the good news is somebody will unintentionally opening massive channel and not realize what they're doing but if they choose to do so they'll be able to opt in and put more capital until lightning in these channels So with one Bo in the broader network will also increase Luke capacities as well as you mentioned you know the limits so far have been pretty small. Aw but you did talk about some of the companies that are building on them. So what are the typical applications that companies are using lightning for now. Yeah so we've seen this the whole host of startups emerge which has been really incredible Less than two years ago at Lightning Labsi release the Beta version of our implementation of lightning network. There are numerous implementations implementation's there's US you lightning from extreme. There's a clear from a sink so we built ours. We release his Beta. And since then we've seen a whole new crop of startups emerge. I didn't even exist prior to this. Many of them are focused on lightning. I so there are a few categories of these One that I know our head of Operations Desert dickerson loves a UH the rise of the lightning gaming startup so quite a few video game companies have emerged. There's ZD Donner lab. SUSHI's games where they're integrating lightning payments into their video games. So I think that's a really Case we've seen a lightning payment startups where you can buy things with lightning. So we have full bit refill. Fill open node. Helping people is a payment processor. There's not pay where merchants can integrate bitcoin lightning and run their own when sulfur in order to do so. So there's the ability to pay with lightning. There's Latin pizza which is a cool project from fold where you can order pizza with lightning And in some cases as you get back as well then we have the earning with lightning companies. There's a great one called stock. I mean who doesn't want more bitcoin. I won't Bitcoin. The people think of lightning people spending bitcoin. But there's actually huge potential people. Earning Bitcoin as well so stock is a really great start up just on the founder last night where people can complete these tasks if you know Amazon Mechanical Turk and they earn Sushi's on lightning because think about it this way if you wanted to pay people around the world's talk radio different countries to do small tasks and you wanted to do it with you know in the Fiat system. Good luck you know. That's just not going to be possible. So stock is a great way to complete tasks do this micro work and earn on With lightning and then dirk companies like tip in and a variety of products where you can actually two people apple and again earn people can actually make money with lightning a noisy the rise of a lightning financial startup. And they're quite view these as well river financial toll for example and disclosure personally in my personal capacity and adviser they are they integrated. Led lighting where you can deposit and withdraw and you can buy Bitcoin coin with dollars and drugs and lightning or you can deposit and then tell for USD we have which is building a lightning native eight of API We have sparks. which is doing trading zapped which is doing OTC You can transact between USD and lightning A host of those in the way of the wallets under great wines like Breeze Moon Zappa also working at a wallet. There's Lula while Toshi so there's really been just as shoot ecosystem that has emerged in less than two years and This fall we co organize a lightning conference we had I five hundred developers enthusiasts community members in Berlin people came from all around the world every continent and it was incredible to see that in person. It's an to release the ABI tangible and enter this world of lightning where everyone was buying. There was a lightning beer tackling cocktail by. You could buy ice cream hot chocolate. Let all sorts of interesting things would lightning. You could play video games as lightning. There's a letting scooter tesla coil. Where when you painted at actually sparked like ooh yesterday I actually live on Yahoo Finance livestream? Our head of operations said the chickens. Paul you feed this community is their real business. Being built in town moved but there are also these crazy used cases. You're like wait if I if I've got a a few years ago that the technical building was gonNA help us chickens like it happened
"donner" Discussed on Survival
"Him but his read approach. The other man's withered figure. He made no mention of have their last bitter encounter instead. Read Bathed Keys Berg and gave him a fresh set of clothes keys. Berg said Reed had no oh animosity toward me. He found me too weak to move. He washed me combed my hair and treated me kindly indeed. He had had no cause to do otherwise keys. Berg showed some selective memory in his account never mentioning their previous quarrels. Perhaps his intention was to whitewash. His own reputation. Has James. Reid was no longer. The pariah had been when keys bird called for his death now now he was their savior and keys. Berg wouldn't want to be remembered as the man who tried to hang their rescuer before read left. He gave keys Berg a half pound of dried beef from his pack and a Half Tea Cup of flour. He told the German that he would return in two weeks and carry Harry him over the mountain. Then James Reid left the camp taking seventeen survivors with him. This included his two remaining children Patrick Breen and his family Elizabeth Graves and her children and three of the younger donner's he left behind behind three men to care for the survivors until the next expedition arrived as they went through the melting snow. The clouds darkened Arken overhead. Read jotted down some scattered thoughts in his journal night closing fast. The clouds still thickening terror terror to many my heart dare not communicate my mind to any depth to all it. Provisions do not come on March Fifth Jeff the blizzard hit the second relief huddled around the fire as the storm raged aged around them reed and mccutchen lead men to forage for firewood. The task grew increasingly difficult. As the weather intensified the fire continually melted the snow sinking deeper as the rescuers tried their best to shield the logs from the wind and snow. Eventually the whole in the snow was wide enough for everyone to lay within it. Sheltering them from the wind returning from a trip together would big big bill. mccutchen lay down next to the fire. He was so numb from the cold. He didn't notice his clothes. Ignite all four shirts. He was was wearing burnt off his back before he realized what was happening. He quickly doused the fire and amazingly he was only slightly singed at the same time. The other leader of the group James Reid was suffering far worse. He became almost completely snow blind line one day into the blizzard. The party were effectively stuck an almost completely out of food. On march seventh. The snowfall stopped read having recovered. Most of his site proposed. They forage forward but the Party. Hardy had suffered immensely over the three days during the chaos of the storm. Elizabeth Graves starved to death. Never learning that her tildren Marianne and Sarah were waiting for her on the other side of the mountains. She was joined in death by two five year olds her her son Franklin graves junior and Isaac Donner the son of Jacob and Elizabeth Donner out of options Reed Reed and mccutchen abandoned. Everyone who was too weak to go on the only survivors who could join them. Were reads to young children but the group of four had to continue on. They didn't WanNa give up and starve when they could bring more supplies back the whole that they he left the brains and graves in would later be known as starved camp. Patrick Breen watched them go praying. That another rescue party would pass them soon. He huddled with his family with no food. Save for the three bodies of their friends lying. Hang on the outside of the snow pit as read left. The eleven survivors in the mountains. Tamsin Donner received. You've terrifying news backed by Alder Creek. Elizabeth Donner had died days earlier in two of the men who had agreed to look after her family Charles Stone and Charles Katie. Were Planning on heading back West on their own fearing they would be abandoned. Tamsin promised to pay the men take her three remaining daughters over the mountains. The men agreed taking the six year old Francis four year old Georgia Zsa and three-year-old away with them however by the time they reached the lake camp they realized they could not carry the three children trend through such thick snow so they deposited the donner girls. In the Murphy Cabin. There were four living individuals in the Murphy. Cabin at the time. Levine Murphy. Her eight year old son Simon her one year old grandson George foster and the increasingly wild Lewis Skis Berg despite reads attempt to nurse him back to health keys. Berg had grown distant after being abandoned by his wife and surviving in daughter sometime after March. Eighth Keys Berg took the child George foster into bed with him extensively to keep the child warm. The next morning George was dead. Levine Murphy accused Keys Berg of killing the Child Keys Berg. Eric did not respond to these accusations. But merely laid the baby's body on the floor of the cabin and returned to bed sometime later. The donor girls saw keys burke walk over to George Foster's body pick him up and hang on a peg like a cut of meat..
"donner" Discussed on REAL 92.3
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Tracking the Thanksgiving forecast
"As we've been reporting rain is in the forecast in for the bay area and snow for the Sierra K. CBS's Margie Shafer reports this is a cold storm of the snow level expected to do it two thousand feet in a word it's going to be kind of a gnarly storm that is meteorologist with the Sacramento office of the National Weather Service Carly so rugged Chesky who says the forecast is calling for one to three feet of snow over a three day period beginning Tuesday night with higher amounts on the top peaks so we're expecting snow for the mother lode that's kind of a local term for this more central portion of this year here interstate eighty at Donner pass highway fifty yet actors summit hi res eighty eight for Carson pass all right all the people that are normally taking those highways this is the personnel that haven't been close plenty of ski resorts are accessed by those highways thanks to snow making there is a limited opening skiing at squaw valley alpine meadows with heavenly set to open the day before thanksgiving and north star the day after the moisture is needed for lots of reasons hopefully
Werner G. Doehner, the Last Hindenburg Survivor, Dies at 90
"The last remaining survivor of the Hindenburg disaster has died and then falling on the morning done there was the only person left of his sixty two passengers and crew who survived in nineteen thirty seven fire that killed his father his sister and thirty four others two years ago Donner told the AP that his family was returning from a vacation in Germany when the giant Zeppelin burst into flames of Lakers New Jersey he says he only survived because his mother through him and his brother out of the ship before it burst into
Trade deal worries impact the market
"Donner a down day closed out and up month on Wall Street the Dow fell a hundred forty the nasdaq twelve the S. and P. nine a for the month the S. and P. rose two percent the nasdaq nearly four the Dow half percent but worries about trade in the economy wait on Wall Street today after Bloomberg news reported Chinese officials don't plan to soften their stance on some of the more contentious issues between the two nations on trade in China that casts doubt that there can be a long term trade deal with China this comes as a snapshot of manufacturing in the Midwest show more contraction in the sector already hard hit by the
"donner" Discussed on The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
"Gave me stuff and Mass Doug Lewis also had two hundred and twenty five dollars worth of gold from from Tamsin in his waistcoat so the rescue party interrogated Lewis must have quite territory yeah. I'm sure tell me about all the body parts everywhere. I don't know what the J. he admitted that he'd eaten Tamsin. Samson does that to start that album but he said he did not murder. He waited for her to die of natural. 'cause I was a good guy about it. He confessed to taking the daughter's good. It's the Gold Bundler stolen silks jewels firearms but he said Tam Senate asked him to gather the donners goods and give it to her children. well almost must unable twenty first the fourth relief left with Lewis on April twenty nine th eighteen forty seven exact almost exactly a year from their departure the the last member of the Donner Party hobbled into sutter's fort and was reunited with his wife who aided immediately eight him of the eighty nine immigrants forty five survived thirty. Two of them were children. The reads and brains were the only families survive without a single loss on average. The women survived months longer than the men okay that doesn't have to be we don't have did didn't make gender lines. William Etty started searching for Lewis to kill him but James we talked talked him out of it. Tamsin donner gained a cult following and became the heroine of the Donner Party her loyalty George and I love for children were commended my men and in women everywhere not so much for Lewis Casper interesting what happened news of the Donner Party spread across the nation of newspapers and by word of mouth. The cannibalism was shocking. Though many members of the Donner Party eight people Louis Kiss Berg took the heat because he was really eating people know we'll try to macaroni at the end of the buffet really good try him with a biscuit. You will not regret it. He was known as quote the savage eight humans for pleasure journalists dubbed him the Human Cannibal and report and he murdered Tamsin Donner as fact the human cannibal. I know no shit. Eh like this this Cannibal here man. It sounds good. I know but it's really good extra word it works. It's redundant. It's one more word art works. I got paid by words. A rumor began that Lewis went to bars and bragged about eating people what he was at eh bars like he goes every like Apache era Murphy. Excuse me fucking great this go eat. It's people once you start. You're like this is fucking awesome. People like I did it up in the mountains uh-huh but now I'm just like all the time so I hang out at the beach lots and when people blocked by them and I just dig a chunk other leg or whatever and they can't get it back because it's dumb thome you know what I mean. I'll take another shot so nice. Bar is taking a shot of Flesh Human Cannibal mechanical the pool get up. Uh The rumor was he was going to bars saying human was more delicious than California. No you hold on there. Sir sure imagine like and I kinda I I'm not trying to. I'm just going to say his head space the head space I am now the guy who eats humans. I have now been that's when people see me they go. That's the humans okay I'm GONNA lean in. That's what I'm GONNA do. I'm so sick of being categorized as a freak that I'm now not no longer. Was it survival rival based solely. This is actually the better meet. This is the other white meat this is I'm telling you we should get like people arm yeah and just raise people and we should ship that out to Oregon and see if they like it right by the way the horror people feel over that in Oregon well the note like if we were to eat people have been fields like being. I let us out yeah yeah I like. What do we have that we can see that they just don't speak English but they are out there like hey? There's some beautiful cow ranch really gorgeous. It looks so happy yeah so they also said the rumor was that he said towns liber was the sweetest morsel guy who's trying to own this and and then he said and then he looks at me and he goes was the sweetest morsel everyday face which is what brings me to my cookbook how to Egypt House the the best media of ever had have you ever had a Powell chilly philly appealing so Lewis was tried ride for murdering six immigrants but acquitted because there's no evidence well I mean good Lord except for all sitting there like there's nothing uh-huh no evidence you say when we're going to but his reputation is a disaster I wonder why he sued a rescuer for slander and one but only received a dollar in damages and I had to pay court fees ranch in eighteen forty forty eight John Sutter hired Louis as a captain on a merchant ship people to follow this guy for sure just seven months later Heinrich Doc Heinrich Lionheart wrote quote finally sutter decided to replace Mister Kessler G- because so many passengers complained that the boat traveled so slowly early down the river that when they ran out of food the captain who is accustomed to human flesh might kill passengers who were asleep and eat them my own feeling is that sutter invented this story. Sorry I completely understand when imagine where would you sleep. Eat your arm. That's going slow now. I'm your Spaghetti. So after this Lewis worked in cinema for General Vallejo before for running a boarding house at Sutter's Fort Okay in eighteen fifty want he bought a hotel in Sacramento stop. This reinvention is probably not not going well and the rumors started in skies just earring whispers everywhere he goes people should stop it one time for the year enough. Lord rumors started in Sacramento that he was running a restaurant uh-huh. I mean look this is what you eat a bunch of people sorry. That's going to stick with you. He didn't survive you've yeah but it felt like he was revelling a little more than everyone else. I mean. If you're last man standing sorry you're just going to be the guy like he saw the hotel but it was destroyed by a fire the night before the purchase was official so he got no money no. Let's let's not feel too bad for this. fucking no known cause of the fire next he ran the Phoenix brewery and advocate worth fifty thousand dollars aw but it was destroyed by a flood okay he was broke again in eighteen sixty six Lewis moved to Calistoga and became a partner in a distillery life went well until his wife died in eighteen seventy seven they had yeah you know what we're just GONNA go ahead and do without a burial take care take care of the figure the best way to save on some of these commission cremation fees. You're talking about is is to we will get rid of it on our own. Last thing we want to do is take a plot or anything like that. We know away that she will be with us forever and not you sums not sitting right classic her Nag Nag Nag Nag Nag Nag Nag even from dummy so they had four children and in two of them were intellectually disabled okay. CF mcglashan was writing and writing a history of the party said of Lewis's children quote Bertha and Augusta Gusta live with the father at Brighton Sacramento County. Both these children are hopelessly idiotic well. There's that empathy we've read about the time Bertha's twenty six and has never uttered an intelligible word Augusta's fifteen and possesses only slight traces of intelligent both are subject to frequent and violent spouses or epileptic fits the state provides for insane but not idiots they they scream so loudly while going into their spasms that he cannot dwell near other people he therefore lives isolated in a plain little house back of his brewery here he lives the saddest loneliest most pitiable creature on the face of the earth. What the fuck now you feel bad for him? Yeah I do feel bad for him. Well not for him for the kids. It's not good for anybody but yeah sure so. When Lewis was sixty fifty five years old he was living near Sacramento and this author mcglashan found him and he said Lewis was afflicted by quote misery and desolation tormented by enduring during accusations that he was a cannibal? The writer got well to be fair. It's not even an accusation well but they're saying he keeps doing it. I mean Oh oh yeah for sure well again. I mean you eat thirty people. Let's see now you're doing it. He didn't eat thirty people. You eat some people he had a good amount of people what I know about thirty though look dude he won he won. Sorry sorry this. This is the downside delivering that is actually what he said when they came to rescue them long motherfucker Ooh ooh millionaires right away Dave how long until there's a reality show of people eating other people for weight gain five years the Max the biggest winner it's eating other people's.
"donner" Discussed on The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
"And he wrote an SOS letter to the Magistrate of Sacramento who then wrote one to the magistrate of San Francisco but he's really passing the buck. Can you do think home during all this at truckee lake things had been super fucked people were dying of starvation Lewis Louis Casper junior died Joseph Reinhardt died and right before he confessed to killing Mr Wolfing healed wolfing chairman and blamed Louis. That's a good that's a good way to go out to be like well. We have closure at least we have closure now. Reid is still read is still out. I'm trying to get people to go help sure he hasn't given up hope I rescue attempt failed and he was now in San Francisco enlisting volunteers he raised fifteen thousand fifteen hundred by supplies but on February fifth the first rescue party left Johnson's ranch as rescuers in San Francisco kept organizing at centers for John Sutter offered three dollars to anyone who had joined the relief parties yeah eh where to go all the way there John and a glass of water I mean melted snow aredent headed to Napa Napa Sonoma to recruit so obviously ever clearly everyone's like no no no. I don't want to to a future wine country and he just goes on a tour. This is also good to have a reasonably. I'm here to actually my friends are in trouble but I actually want to really nail this down. This is that's good to Pino eight MMA Scotto a little too Ferdie. I'm not crazy about that. It's a little too sweet yes soon. I should get back but I really WANNA. I WANNA I wanNA lock this down. Oh crackers yum yum yum yum just spit on my IPAD. The a rescuer quote they gave the alarm that people would all die without assistance. It was two weeks before any person would consent to go. Oh my God that's pretty bad at die. If we get up there all right. We're just stop. We're out. Finally we concluded we would go or die trying for not to make an attempt to save them would be disgraced us and California as long time lasted two weeks later like Oh our right. This'll be bad usually pay do this on February nineteenth. The first relief arrived at Donner Donner Party's campsite unquote. No living thing except ourselves wasn't site. Oh No we raised allowed. Hello Hello her friends. Then we saw a woman emerge from a hole in the snow how Oh everything's on fire as we approached coached her several others made their parents to in like manner coming out of the snow we're dying. We're the snow people depots they were gone with famine and I never can forget the horrible ghastly sight they presented the first woman spoke in a hollow voice very much agitated she said are you from California or do you come from Heaven God. It goes with the idea that you're in the state whether your two options are Ella -fornia or heaven there's now at between in what is that the clouds are the guy I would actually say California's heaven and that's it's why Dave Anthony is running for governor of this state the great state telephone my campaign slogan Logan is let's eat the Patrick's down with the Patriarchy so the first relief rescued twenty three people and left thirty one behind. That's all they could bring out was twenty twenty-three well. I mean good Lord. Talk about lining up for you know. Can I go with the first with the first group. No Okay uh all right Lewis's wife and daughter were among the rescued. Louis remained the camp because of his injured foot Ada died died in route Tamsin Donner would not leave her dying husband side. She wouldn't leave George who has the gangrene share. Ah I rescue left her but she sent her children away to be saved but a storm came with the rescuer would take in the donner children so he left the kids in Lewis's cabin on the other side of the lake just the two of them. I think there's more than two okay but it's just all the kids in one cabin yeah. She put him in that cabin. He's like I can't take in the snow so good luck. Children won't go well see later by the way don't play with this guy's daughter he hits them. Oh she's dead. Never remind ono play whether then too so hard play with the dead the friend who soon so Tamsin became worried why and a man visited the other side visited visited the cabins on the other side looking to see if anyone knew if the Donner Joel children had reached safety over there found the Donna children and Lewis's cabin and unquote witnessed such scenes of horror and suffering that he believed their lives were in danger of death more violent than starvation. What so I think he's hitting them? Oh Shit can't imagine I mean that's all I can okay so Elisa Donner quote. I remember being awakened while there were I. I remember being awakened while they were by two little arms clasped suddenly and tightly around me and I heard Francis say no she shall not go with you. You want to kill her nearest casper the man with the bushy hair what is going on right now in limping past are sleeping place it stopped and said something about taking me away with them which so frightened my sisters that they believe my life endanger and would not let me move beyond their reach while we remained in that dungeon we spoke in whispers suffered as much as the starving children in Joseph's time and we're more afraid than Daniel and the deadlines so I think he wanted to eat them. Oh what he was trying to take one to eat eat eat and and the rest are like Oh. You're not eating her yeah and so. They were just holding onto each other to try to keep but that's I grew up like that. I mean that's just horrible fucked the United States here one of you to come with me. Let's go outside and play axe they were but they were rescued. By the second relief again. Tamsin refused to go she stayed with George. The third relief was led by William Eddie and William Foster oster who came hoping their sons. We're live when they arrived. Miss Murphy said a single word to them dead Miss Murphy. How about opener about a low dead dead? Oh hello both of the boys had been cannibalized Jesus Christ. This is Murphy. Who's twelve year old was the one that died earlier was one of the first I did the camp to cannibalize a body but she accused Louis saying he'd grown impatient wanting the boys to die took little George foster to bed one night and and killed him by morning hanging his carcass on the wall like a slab of game fuck sake both any and foster were outraged but fostered word then saw that Miss Murphy was out of her fucking mind and bland and believed Lewis Claims of innocence Eddie on the other hand swore or he would kill Lewis once all this was over? Just then Tamsin Donner stumbled into the cabin walking miles eddy in foster offered to take her and her children yeah but once she saw children are gone and alive in good hands she returned George he died a few weeks later when the third relief mission was completed they assumed George Samuel Donner and Mrs Murphy had died. Sorry sorry it must Tamsin just to change so George Thompson and and Mrs Murphy had died. I think that's all that was left up. That's all they left there. That left a way that left Thompson and Louis going survivors. Okay so there's George Donner Miss Murphy three times and then Louis those are the survivors non thought Lewis was worth risking their life for finally and Tamsin had already turned down three chances to leave so they weren't going to go back for so they waited for the weather clear up a month later and then they went and this was the fourth relief and they just saw this as a salvage operation to get all the belongings hey on April seventeenth fourth relief arrived at Donner's family the camp outside there was a kettle filled with human flesh Jesus Christ leftovers George Donner's Buckingham exam sandwiches tomorrow. George Donner's body was covered in a sheet his head butchered and brains removed in that skull get in this goal goal. That's where the candies talking now. Let's stop everything you're saying. Candy is Tamsin was nowhere in sight. When the group got to Lewis's Pad Crib Ebb they saw him with Tammy's body preparing a meal of human lungs and livers Jesus Christ? Dude Lewis was the sole survivor all around the camp. We're on a couple pounds. Shake off that Christmas way to my right around the holidays the only one who is more of your family than you I ordered a Pentagon good Loyd.
"donner" Discussed on The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
"But that's like veal. You know what I mean so this location would later be called decamp of death finally finally a good name so the made from the bodies did not met last that much longer and they began eating their shoes. What wait a minute who goes human human does shoe you go shoot a human what the fuck well that was? You're probably eat the other things we could since Patrika the teenager dead and in us our shoes it really go for another Patrick. Though of course we all right. We're not doing it. Let's dive Retro Causes Now. Everyone ate their shows. Not the Nike all right so much suggested killing and eating their to native American guides Luis Listen Salvador by the weight of course of course of course white people like should we eat the navigation should be crazy but another man was appalled by this and he warned the to native Americans who ran away into the forest there we go. We've got a real win-win that guys the next to get eaten by the way Lewis Lips eat dips Louis from a nearby Milwaukee village but a few days later they keep wandering and they find Luis and Salvador dying in the snow the guy who the first guy who suggested they should eat people shot them without hesitation and then they sliced allies and dried Luis and Salvador packing meat packing January seventeenth the snowshoeing group eating a lot of people on January seventeenth snowshoe group reached Lewis Listen Salvador's Milwaukee village. Oh no hey we haven't seen them. I have your son right here. The they were so thin the Milwaukee thought they were ghosts and ran away by the way right move entirely a. r. and run yes always run from white people yeah for sure white people but they show up gaunt and fully your friends take off. Hey No we're not the regular assholes we're desperate so soon they realized that these were starving people and they actually cared for them until some recovered. They didn't have much mostly just had a cornbread but they shared it with these people have been eating friends at shoes. They'll take corn bread after week. Take to native Americans led William Eddie to Johnson's ranch which is about fifteen miles away the settlers at Johnson's ranch were absolutely horrified lied when they saw Eddie and they quickly formed a party to go help they followed Eddie's bloody footprints to the ME Walk Village and this is very clear actually it's a clear path very clear we call this group.
"donner" Discussed on The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
"Molecules separate uh sort of friends so the men wanted to return to donner camp the women angrily opposed demanding that they find help silly rationality then they all became so hungry they started hallucinating eating and then someone suggested they eat one of them. WHOA so I have an idea so they are tripping my ideas? We eat frank because I fucking hungry. This is why we should've kept Har- group around by the way you cannot get offended in the story in this audience right now so they're desperate and they talk about it and they agreed to draw straws and decide who will be eat what what what what what about the Doodoo smokers Piper died. Why not go back and be like this dude? He's still ready those five days ago. They walked away from him. Ah Timelines off obviously yeah. I mean okay so he's Christ surprised. Drawing straws existed that early but they couldn't do it. They couldn't bring themselves to do it. They couldn't cut the small one yeah so they decided to wait until one of them died and then they would just eat that person within within three days. Patrick Dolan died and was eating. I Jesus Christ Dave. This is the slow down three people died. Patrick was eaten first because he wasn't related to anyone anyone idea of some sort of categorizing of this okay so they hadn't gone on an here I want. I want them to know how to eat them. I that's awesome congratulations. What did you guys I? It's awesome what a a history teacher and he came here tonight and I was like you know my podcasts about. He's like no and now he's GonNa get eaten. What Turnaround Cinderella story so the Patrick they were so you were Dave? It says a lot about where we are that you just said they patrick. It's actually my uncle's name which is hilarious yeah. Why's he leaving? You can't get far old man. I'll see you on the rock-hard goop yeah so they scared him on sticks over a fire at least a nice way to do it. Are you going to do it yeah. Tuck turn tournament rotate them. Patrick look good before but he looks great now. It was a great guy to which they think is going to really help. I really liked him. I've never had a connection like this to the food I'm going to I've never known them this well. I had a chicken name Bob that I used to have sex with. This is different. What's that what was the middle? Maybe hallucinating you better be. You never all righty. They didn't look at each other as they ate Patrick. Shame shame yeah. It's awkward. That's a hard meal well. What are you GonNa do like fuck guys? You guys try there. Dipping sauce good you feel pure. Shame Shame Anthony Bourdain gene. No no no no no no get more aglow. Give me more glue workload pounded Dow with they also didn't look at each other when they cooked and ate twelve year old alum Lem you'll Murphy.
"donner" Discussed on The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
"The on September Thirteenth Party can't that place called a read called the mad woman woman camp and he's just riffing right. He's got no idea what's going on. We read that diarrhea because quote all the women in the the camp were mad with anger yeah but not because of the location because of the experience boy. What is it about this area that makes women go Kuku Okubo Nana's like we're dying? Here's something which by you we are. I just Kim the wives dislike do fucking Watt. Hey guess my hasty fucking who guess what's GonNa make all the wives happier naming it after that God you guys are so fucking crazy. I'm calling this mad wife Alex. Hey guys I know you're pissed but I wanted to let you know kind of an Omar's moment. The in honor on September twenty fifth apart party finally completed pleaded the hastings cutoff told you tell you a quick. She tells you be easier. Sorry your family's dead so much closer when we were it took sixty days way way longer than it should. Have you know sometimes shortcuts aren't shorter. I don't know if you guys know that but they're not always so now. They're back on the original route insanely behind schedule. They're back on the original route good work. That's amazing. Tensions ran high between members of the Party. The read family teamster and the graves family teamster got into an argument as their wagons became tangled together. Well that'll get them. untangled read tried to make peace doing the men and pulled out his knife to cut the tangled ropes on the wagons one of the teamsters curse at read and hit read on the head with his whip handle repeatedly giving read a wide wide deep cuts on his face wake he whipped him. He hit the handled pistol whip. I'm familiar with a hit him with the handle the whipping we're panel like that'd be demeaning beating. Did you not respect affect me but my whip you little bitch. This isn't looking Chand. Get hurt not much but it's really are out the I hi it's volleyball's. You deserve the other end. Stab me like a man baby so then that was happening so Reid's wife rushed into help. Oh that's GONNA help his case. Leave my husband alone. I'M GONNA beat him further with the but Louis hitter yeah so then the teamster step toward the wife and read thought the teamster was going to attack his wife so he's in whip cussed by the yeah not sure what's going on so he stabbed the teamster in the chest Jesus Christ simpler places to start with that move the teamster bled it out pretty quick and died all the guy who was just hitting a guy in the face with the handle of okay demeaning meaning we look we all have weird favorites teamster to was my hero. Even though it was self defense many in the party turned against read but it wasn't really self defense it was like it was Kinda. High Enough Defense Sorta he'd been beaten with the Butt of a whip so it was a little woozy but then he was like don't touch her because the fuck you I was going to hug her. I people didn't like the reads because they were wealthy and start out with a ton of supplies and animals plus read was stubborn and arrogant so the group met and discussed it some wanted to read to the law wants to reach California. Okay others wanted months away. Yeah others others wanted immediate. Justice Lewis hated him in no read one Lewis hated him and wanted him Hong immediately in front of his friends and family income on. I let it be horrible dollars. Should we do it. We should do it in front of his friends and Family Sapa this dinner and then we'll make them eat them Goulash. That'll teach them one of the parties that Lewis began to quote convert a wagon tongue into makeshift gallows almost immediate weight so says some other German German psycho patches. Here's like a bit of that. I'll make a gallows. No we haven't signed off on anything just yet hang God worry. I made an iron maiden Aden got a whole setup over here didn't take too long either so it was pretty quick sweet how long before we go just I just think that would drain all his blood of this and then we feed our. I'm not sure I made a lot of stuff. There's a lot of options so many options we could do them. All we do one. I don't know let's there's make a day of it. That's what I'd say in front of his friends and family. They have to beat out for that pot. I want to see the look and his daughters is hot. Autism is open. Don't show them what I've done. A PA fuck with me instead they decided to banish Reed and they allow them to have a single single horse and that was it the gallows guys like I mean okay. What do I I said Yeah give them a horse? Good call who needs to severance package most saw this as a death sentence but read just road nonstop until he caught up with the donners who the two days ahead. What are you doing shits five back there? Let's tussle up hustle up on with you they send it to race and we need to beat them. The magic catching up with the Donner party being like few. I'm home again so read another man from the Donner Party road ahead to Sutter's there's Ford with a letter asking for team of oxen and supplies to survive until California on October seventh. Someone noticed the the Belgian man hard coupe was blessed gap doesn't help his name in either was missing. I mean I'm not gonna I pretty much forgotten about heart group so he's been missing for me for quite a while. Now he was in Lewis as wagon and Lewis said he had no idea where he was you. All BENJI named Belgian named hard goop just walking around lost so someone backtracked several miles and found around hard coop on the side of the trail. I it all halo going. His feet. Were bloody race so we'll get a bleeding so swollen. They were split open. It's they've got a real kind of a BIF- affiliated quality. Now he said Lewis had kicked him out of his wagon to lighten the load and left him on the side of the road days before all right. Now I like argue now poor little argue with his penguin feet and flapping out about their he's set just stay here but I will so get over here here so it's your feet they really are. It's like watching block so he brings them back to the group but no family would take our coop in their wagon had so they just left him again. Yes we sure did Hargopal. Fortunately yes assets so I know I remember when I found you. You were very dehydrated. Were stationed this yes and I oh I can't wait once again to have a Belgian pen. They let well the whole awful hold on their hardware. Let me let me do some of the awful I just. I'm so crazy I don't I underst- I I mix up pancakes and of course yes yes yes. I've ever really needed jump in right here right now of course park no no no no no and by the way that would be called a hard group Hug and no and let me tell you I think you're fantastic and I love everything about what's going on in the New Year. I think your feeder tastic. I really do going to scub- don't point them near me. What I'm trying to say is that unfortunately after pitching some of the families about taking their wagon? Unfortunately there's just no takers so we're going to have to twenty wagons. It would would appear to be so but again I mean I can't I can't I can't jammie into one of them. I can't let's just not my role here. My hands are tied. I can't do oh anything so sadly. This is kind of a second goodbye. Why yeah why wow well just because well? I don't like the attitude shift fucking Shit asses come back from me argues targeting argue. I'm I'm not gonNA end onto sour note with you because you're a bunch of fucking should ask is fucking dying each other fucking well well well. Someone's English is coming along suddenly okay okay all right all right way tried and I was very nice to you and here take these grains. I'm rubbing my foot. Dust you leave her alone. That's ADA. She's so much better than that Petra Tilda report so he just died out in the middle of nowhere just died out in the middle of nowhere. They're like okay bye. Hey we can catch Ya apo- you can now die further from those spot urine before which I think is really Nice for you on October fourteenth. Thank Mrs Whoa fingers husband was missing okay. Everyone assumed Lewis killed him for his money if so as busy Louis what I didn't you another fucking Guy I am ninety percent I did not.
"donner" Discussed on The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds
"So to get people to go to California hastings made the trip sound super easy but we just ran into this and another one so what is just like Oh. You'RE GONNA love it it. Could it be easier. It's like taking a sledge downhill. It'll be fun and just like people die and you're like what am I a liar. I'm I'm sorry everyone died I really I will. I don't care about the feelings of others he wrote. A book called the Immigrants Guide to Oregon and California Nia was full of absolute bullshit for example. He claimed that travelers would not have to worry about native Americans because quote the desolating ravages of Intertribal war have been the chief causes of now abandoned villages which are covered in human skulls. Wait that's to make people feel better. The real burst does not want to make you go there. No don't mind the skulls it's just black US don't pathway ask and and the Wilderness Committee of that these tribes are such that upon the appearance of white persons at their villages all of the males both old and young immediately flee in the utmost confusion super we're running into each other at an an an an an in name to the surrounding hills and mountains while all females remain and commence of the most doleful moaning and crying in this season's great late so the idea is that that if you're white and you walk into that area the man I don't know what to do and just run around like Benny Hill and the women fall down and start crying. Yes sure that sounds that's pretty logical. Yeah who needs motivated actions so a lot of pioneers were into Hastings Book Including The reeds and Donners Jacob Donner past his copy around to Evanson the group and he would discuss it often one one big lie in the book was about the Hastings Cutoff which is supposed to be a shortcut that hastings had discovered by looking at a map now is that how one finds the shortcut that's right north away so they missed a thing here. Knock real close there Arthur. There's that thing look I can make my finger do this. That'll be easy on foot. Basically the same trip just with feet vit that was easy. Shortcut was actually one hundred twenty five five miles longer longer than the usual route. It's weird shortcut shore. It's not your traditional Shoka and hastings that I've never travelled it okay well. I'm starting to I mean I kinda forgive him now a little bit they really was just like you go that way. Fuck up getting there later now while they were there read ran into an old friend who was a season mountain man and guide all over the West but that's pretty lucky yep and he said that hastings book was fucking bullshit and Hastings these things was a scammer and he'd met him and he had no idea how difficult the journey was and he told read absolutely do not take the hastings cutoff now Dave. Why don't we just go to the next sentence where you tell me that they took the hastings? Has that sound who needs it experienced mountain man when some guy was like you go there you you don't need a guide. I found a piece of paper a guide. What do you need a guide for? He's got knowledge. Take this paper so the men of the parties spoke all night with the experience guide and some tickets warnings and kept going on proven route but others like the reeds donners did did not quote told me to take the regular wagon track and never leave it told them of the great desert and the roughness of the Sierras but he quickly we responded. There's a higher route and it is of no use to take such a roundabout course oh man okay. It's going to be fine yeah with the little knowledge I have. I know it will be fine so the party split up one party on the original route while reading the others including the Casper follow the hastings cutoff. This group was officially now called the Donner Party enjoy joyer. Enjoy your fingers ways. They're serving fingers tonight. I believe you for way too long at the sweetwater river in Wyoming the Donner party was given a letter from hastings good news I found an even shorter out there at Fort Bridgier and it warned of going to Fort Bridgier warned of pop possible Mexican attacks ax and said if if they met him at bridge or he would personally lead them on the hastings cutoff across the desert and mountains okay. That's nice. It's nice but it's total total bullshit in some way for sure they arrived at Fort Bridger on July. Twenty seventh hastings just left to join in another party dammit what they were what they were told was a lot of previous travelers at Fort Bridgier at left letters to warn other emigrants to did not go on the hastings cutoff where the letters but the owners of the Fort didn't want to lose any business so they hit the letters. Oh my God well Ahmad. That's GonNa Affect the cafe business a lot all them letters that say don't go this way. I just ordered a case a coke welcome to survivors cafe so the Donner Party was now seventy four people Jesus Christ east at Weber Weaver Whatever and Utah on August six they found a message from hastings on a stick aw you gotta feel good about that they like cow's worried for a minute but then we got to stick note. Give me a minute. I'm avid twig read. I'm happy with what's happening over here. Good News. There's a letter on a stick. We've got another branch book yeah it. It said the Canyon was impassable and drew a new route over the mountain weight. Okay so if you're going from book to you note on a stick not as good. You're like Oh wait sorry. There's been an update. Thank God we found this note. Stick otherwise we would've been fucked. He also said to send someone to catch up with him so he could show them. The alternative route read into Med went ahead and caught up with hastings okay and then he talked hastings into writing back to the Donner camp sure to talk to these people but hastings stings a little ways out had second thoughts and said he felt really bad about a banning the other group he was leading so he just showed read the route. I guess on the ground that's good. That'll that works. It's just like drawing up a we're in there and you're fine. You're this and then you just keep going. You'll figure it out. Just just keep going down but the route was so vague. That read just ended up picking his own trail well. That's not good right now. It was fine now okay. Why actually no it not to be fine well? You don't know that I'll be lies. What if everybody you? It's all fine now while they were waiting now while they're waiting even more people join the Donner Party was now eighty seven people. She's Christ now. They all headed out on reads path summer day no that he's he's just sort of like Improv path now. I don't think providers I think he came back and said it's this way so he's just like a really good talk with Eh. It's fine. It's right over here. Let's go this way summer's now over. That's a good sign. One young traveller dried up indict of consumption. Lewis's wife gave birth to a baby boy. That's a good time he was named Luis Junior. It took them three weeks to reach Salt Lake instead of the couple of days that hastings had promised him that's good so today's three weeks sure water the water there was undrinkable undrinkable so they had to gather water and grasp before heading into the desert which delayed the more okay hastings said the desert was about forty miles wide. He said the desert was forty forty miles wide okay eighty miles white okay within two days. The Cattle Ellen Horses started dying. They couldn't pull the wagon some broke free and ran off. Those are the the by the way it feels like that's the last good moment of the episode episode. Just general vibe goes like this. The last time we feel happiness for those cows go go yeah learn and be free without their horses. The read family had to abandon most of their wagons and they had to carry what they could now walking through the desert so I we at the point where you're like that hitching son of a bitch point civil pitch. No this is great. This is really close. Short cut super short really close off the Casper gues also had to abandon a wagon each wants across the Salt Lake Valley they took inventory and found they didn't have the supplies to make it to California -fornia well. That's a problem so they sent to mend ahead. Get help from Sutter's fort in Sacramento where they found own gold here you go. You probably expected bigger applause on that. You were like this is a beer time. No I think all of these people are bored et Cetera for they all went there. It probably went on like three field trips there as a kid and they're like okay Agai- gold okay good gold easy my dear what you say fuck someone John Sutter Johnson fucking we'll get to that later. That's a that's a different episode but let's just put it and I think John Sutter worse than Larry.
"donner" Discussed on Survival
"Died penniless and friendless in eighteen ninety five live the last survivor of the Donner party Isabel Breen died on March twenty fifth nineteen eighteen thirty five at the age of eighty nine. She was one year old when their parents took her across the Sierra Nevada Mountains Lansford transferred hastings the man who set the Donner Party on the path to failure and was arguably the reason for their horrible fate remained involved with their lives in the years that followed he worked with James Reid and donate to orphanages the donner children stayed at but never expressed any remorse the misleading information he put in the emigrant's guide the California and Oregon in fact his penchant for poorly thought out plans continued throughout the rest of his life during the civil war hastings served as a major in the confederate army after their defeat he set out to to found a confederate colony Brazil with the aim of writing the emigrant's guide to Brazil. He died on route today. The Donner Party is remembered as one of the most infamous disasters in the era of Western migration too many who grow up in California the name Donner is synonymous with starvation cold and cannibalism and even if you've never heard of them their name now adorns the very land killed almost half their group the lake were were. They wasted away with nothing but hope to keep them going now. Bears the name of its survivors and the gap between the mountains were so many of them perished from hunger and hypothermia is now known as Donner Pass..
"donner" Discussed on Survival
"The same time the other leader of the group. James Reid was suffering far worse. He became almost completely snow blind one day into the blizzard. The party were effectively stuck and almost completely out of food on March seventh. The snowfall stopped read having recovered covered. Most of his site proposed. They forage forward but the party had suffered immensely over the three days during the chaos of the storm storm. Elizabeth Graves starved to death. Never learning that her children. Maryanne and Sarah were waiting for her on the other side of the mountains she was joined in death by two five year olds her son Franklin Graves Junior and Isaac Donner the son none of Jacob and Elizabeth Donner out of options Reed and mccutchen abandoned everyone who was too weak to go on the only survivors who could join them were reads to young children the Group of four had to continue on they didn't WanNa give up and starve arve when they could bring more supplies back the whole that they left the brains and graves in would later be known as starved served Camp Patrick Breen watched them. Go praying that another rescue party would pass them soon. He huddled with his family with with no food save for the three bodies of their friends lying on the outside of the snow pit as has read left the eleven survivors in the mountains. Tamsin Donner received terrifying news backed by Alder Creek Elizabeth Donner had died. I two days earlier in two of the men who had agreed to look after her family. Charles Stone and Charles Katie were planning on heading back west on on their own fearing they would be abandoned. Tamsin promised to pay the men to take her three remaining daughters over the mountains. The the men agreed taking the six year old Francis four year old Georgia and three-year-old away with them however by the time they reached the lake camp. They realized they could not carry the three children through such thick snow so they deposited the donner girls in the Murphy earthy cabin. There were four living individuals in the Murphy Cabin at the time Levine Murphy her eight year old son Simon her one one year old grandson George foster and the increasingly wild Lewis Keys Berg despite reads attempt to nurse him back to health <music> keys Berg had grown distant after being abandoned by his wife and surviving daughter sometime after March eighth keys Berg took the child titled George Foster into bed with him extensively to keep the child warm the next morning George was dead Lavina in a Murphy accused keys Berg of killing the Child Keys Berg did not respond to these accusations but merely laid the baby's body not on the floor of the cabin and returned to bed sometime later the donner girls saw keys burke walk over to George Foster's body <music> pick him up and hang on a peg like a cut of meat back at starved Camp Camp Patrick Breen had given up all hope lying at the bottom of the hole in the ground staring up into space his wife Margaret kept their children alive on pitifully small doses of T. heated over the fire and Sweden's with the one lump of sugar she had have left but this barely took the edge off the ravenous hunger consuming the eleven survivors one night. She woke Patrick in a panic saying that her baby was dying. Patrick Breen replied. Let Him die. He will be better off than any of us. Shortly after Charles Stone and Charles Katie passed by on their way back from the lake camp seeing the three bodies in the snow. Oh they looked into the whole making eye contact with the emaciated survivors and soldiered on unable to help at some point went after they left desperate for any kind of sustenance. Mary Donner suggested that they start eating the dead days later on the afternoon of March twelfth. The third relief arrived at starved camp. This party was led by William Eddie and William Foster to surviving men of the forlorn hope they were both motivated by the same urge back to find their youngest sons what they found at starved camp was horrific by the whole in the snow was the butchered body of Elizabeth Graves and a pile of child sized bones that had once been Franklin Graves Junior. The third relief were faced with a problem Mary Donner and the graves children were strong enough to continue with the Breen's. Were too weak to make get through the mountains without help carrying them. The whole way back would mean splitting their party up leaving only a few to go ahead to the lake camp. They took a vote on whether to leave the brains behind all but one voted to leave the Breen's. The outlying vote was from a man named John Stark the next morning the party Split Eddie Foster and two others continued going East you want another two men took Mary Donner and the infant Elizabeth Graves John Stark took charge of the remaining graves children and all the breen's the children took turns writing on his back on March Thirteenth William Eddie and William Foster arrived arrived at truckee lake several weeks after they had left it they made for the murphy cabin where Reid had told them their children lived their two sons. Were nowhere to be seen. They only found Levine Murphy her son. The three youngest donner girls and Louis Keys Berg Eddie Confronted Keys Berg demanding to know what became of their sons keys Berg told him the two boys had died and been eaten Eddie was infuriated. He almost killed keys. Berg on the spot. He stopped stopped himself reasoning that he would not kill a starved man on a rescue mission instead. He promised to kill him if they ever met again in California foster and eddy left the cabin where they encountered tamsin donner stumbling through the woods she had come from their camp looking for her children. Eddy in foster escorted her to the Murphy cabin allowing her a brief reunion with her three young girls. Tamsin was overjoyed. They were still alive and insisted they go with the rescue. Group uh-huh Eddy in foster attempted to persuade Thompson to come with him but Thompson insisted that she be allowed to take one last visit to the alder a creek camp to save George Donner was still alive. Eddy in foster could not wait their group left immediately leaving Tam Samson behind she began the arduous trudge back to Alder Creek where her husband still stubbornly clung to life by this point his arm was completely rotten with gangrene and he was barely conscious he to insisted tamsin go with the rescuers skewers but she would not let him die alone. Only four members of the Donner Party remained in the two camps George Donner remained in their tent by Alder Creek in a cabin by the lake one man and one woman remained remained who were too weak to travel the starved Levine Murphy and an increasingly desperate Louis Keys Berg when we return these four final members of the Donner Party reach a gruesome end now the conclusion solution to the story by mid March eighteen forty seven the horrors of the Donner party were almost just at an end three arduous rescue expeditions had attempted to bring the encamped survivors across the Sierra Nevada due to continuing continuing harsh weather and the bare minimum of supplies. Many of the survivors had died during transit and even more died by the lake while they're rescued family members were taken to safety by the time William Eddie and William Foster caught up with the remainder of the third relief leave. There were only a few stragglers left at the camp as far as they knew George and Tamsin Donner remained by Alder Creek and Lavina Murphy was living by Truckee Lake. With Louis Keys Berg Eddy in foster encountered a camp on the other side of the mountains accompany led by Salem Woodworth Eddie told Woodworth. There were four people who still needed to be rescued but the man refused is to go back for them. His priority was to transport those who had already been rescued to Johnson's ranch the first settlement on the west side out of the Sierra Nevada's when the survivors gathered at the ranch. They took stock of their situation. Most families were in tatters ragged and diminished incredibly both the Breen and the read families were completely intact though they still required weeks weeks to fully recover from their starved state the reeds were the only members of the party who had not cannibalized their fellow members to survive on April thirteenth a fourth and final relief. If party set out east toward Truckee Lake led by William Grow Fallon and experienced mountain man the only member of the Donner party to go back with them was William Foster who wanted to see if Levine Murphy his mother-in-law was still alive.
Gayle King speaks with families devastated by mass shootings
"With Congress set to return in two weeks house speaker Nancy Pelosi is ratcheting up pressure on lawmakers to take action on gun violence the country's most powerful Democrats said this week she would not take no for an answer after two mass shootings this past month but any push for reform faces opposition in the Republican led Senate as Congress struggles to address the issue CBS this morning's Gayle king sat down with a group of people who live with the repercussions of bash shootings everyday Stephanie Melendez's father was killed in el Paso Texas earlier this month he was shopping with his wife and granddaughter nine years old we push them both to safety the Reverend Sharon richer lost her mother and two cousins in the Charleston church massacre Richard Martinez is only child Chris was killed during a rampage in Isla Vista California and Nova Marquez greens little six year old daughter on a grace was killed in the sandy hook massacre in two thousand twelve you go through periods of time when you do feel you know the worst thing that's ever happened to me it's already happened to me by the same time I'm never going to work I don't want to get over it you do not I don't want to get over I Chris was our only child getting over it would seem to me to be there the trail of my son's memory and I don't want to get over it and how do you go on if you don't get over it I feel like I have an obligation as a parent to my son finish the work that I do to try to stop gun violence you said Sharon before we get started now all the shootings are ranked in categories what do you mean so you have the hate crime category you have the church category you have the school category bottom line is they had as a category people say it's about second amendment rights the right to bear arms I have a right to see my daughter enter eighth grade this fall and I don't get to do that and I am grossly as a mental health professional offended by the words of our president and members of Congress linking mental illness to mass shootings you don't see it as a mental health issue the vast majority of people who are mentally ill are not violent by a long shot most of the gun violence that we see on a daily basis is related more to a domestic violence and misogyny one thing that isn't talked about a lot is suicide families who've lost a loved one the suicide suffer the same grief that we do have any of you ever thought about suicide after this yes yes I would say in the early days it was very dark and I hope by me saying as others can be encouraged by hearing it and ask for help they need it was like I died Chris was everything to me it was a center of my life I think the reason why suicide doesn't really concern Chris would want that you know I'm living from I'm all that's left of my son's memory I'm keeping him alive by being alive and to be with her you know that's that's really what it is I want to let her know yeah and I would if I could I'd like to say I'm so sorry hello I'm so sorry you didn't get what you deserve to but I'll stay here for the work that needs to be done but I just want to be with her I so feel that now but when you say I just want to be with her I just wanted I just want to be with her I have this that's where you have your own brown skin curly haired singing Donner and I woke up one morning and I didn't have her we have to think about the people who are the shooters and all of these cases they were young white men in their twenties we don't like to talk about race in a lot of these mass shooting situations but I think it's an important conversation to have sandy hook was in a race was in a race it wasn't but it it permeates everything because I'll tell you an interesting conversation my husband said to me shortly after the shooting and he goes you know I've spent my whole life as a black man in America trying to convey that I'm a safe person especially in white environments I look people in the high I make sure not to take up too much space because I'm a six foot six inch three hundred pound black man yet a white person boy killed my daughter and I'm not allowed to look at him or look at others in that way right I'm supposed to give a grace I have never been given as a black man in America however I will I wish people would give that to us and I sat in the passenger seat and I just cried with him Emmett till's mother allowed people to see what had been done to her son's body and that change the game in the civil rights movement where are you all in people seeing the damage that is caused when your child your father your loved one is shot to see using vision is seen they don't people are visual learners people need to see the devastation I think it's a fair question I think it's an important one to discuss I think many times was on a show many many many would you have wanted us to see that absolutely not if this beautiful six year old baby her living picture her voice her affect everything about her alive didn't change you photo dead wouldn't change you either I say of gun violence in America does not make your heart her makes your soul crawl high you can't deal with that then you can't feel
"donner" Discussed on Survival
"Fourteen year old. Mary murphy perfect would later right. He suffered more than tongue can tell foster was wracked with guilt pike had been his brother-in-law uh he fell into a solemn silence for the rest of the journey unable to find more volunteers for a supply run or unwilling to spend all the time george donner insisted they go on with the supplies they had they moved camp and made their way toward the truckee river canyon hoping they could beat the snow by the time they arrived at truckee river canyon in late october eighteen forty six the donner party had split into three beat distinct groups the lead group with the brain family the keys burg's and the eddie's the middle group with margaret reid and her children the graves family only charles stanton luis and salvador and the third group consisting only of the donner family trailing far behind george george donner stayed to the rear of the train so their cattle wouldn't get run down by any of the other wagons he was also deeply concerned about wagons having difficulty on the upcoming slopes in wanted to make sure he could provide assistance for any that fell behind as far as george donner was concerned their a journey was still salvageable as long as they could pass the sierras before winter they would be able to reach their destination but as the donners has descended into the nearby dog valley another unanticipated disaster struck as they guided their horses and oxen into the canyon. One of the donner wagons overturned trapping two of the children in the wreckage for your old georgia and three year old elisa aisa fortunately neither was seriously injured but the accident presented another issue to the donors. The axle of this wagon had broken in a needed repairs now having completely lost sight of the rest of their party george donner and his brother jacob said about fashioning a replacement assessment axel from a nearby pine log george held the log while jacob hacked away at it with a chisel justice. Jacob was putting the finishing in touch is on it. The chisel slipped cutting a deep gash across the back of george donner's hand as his family washed and dressed his wound wound. George quipped that he had greater concerns than cuts and bruises despite his flippant tone his concern was growing. They couldn't waste time on such a minor inconvenience when they were so far behind the rest of their party at that same moment around five miles south west. The remainder of the donner party was pushing to escape the valley the other fifty nine members of the party were camped out by truckee lake. They hit awakened to an inch of snow and panicked realizing that winter was not far off without the leadership of george donner. The group decided to take a chance and try to summit the sierra nevada. They turned charles stanton for guidance as he was the only one who knew the way the to me walks who accompanied stanton luis and salvador also knew the mountains but they couldn't speak much english on november second and the party made their way to the far side of the lake and attempted to summit though it was still only fall the rocks were already slick with snow snow and ice iron rimmed wagon wheels couldn't gain any traction on the rock and they began to slide backwards on the steep incline the the drivers beat at the hawks and mercilessly to force progress but the wagons could only move forward mere feet at a time though stanton and the milwaukee could scout ahead good ways up the mountain on foot. The waggons lagged far behind them by this point. Everyone had stepped out of their wagons in an attempt to lighten the load for their exhausted animals. Some men even attempted to push their own wagons hoping that would be just the encouragement. The oxygen needed to make real progress. Almost all of the women carry their children adding to their exhaustion stanton stanton returned from scouting ahead to find the party had come to a complete standstill dark storm clouds gathered overhead some of the men lit a nearby pitch pine on fire and everyone gathered around it for warmth stanton attempted to persuade the family to press on and but night was drawing in fast the men and women were tired instead of setting up camp many simply put buffalo skins and blankets blankets on the ground laying down to sleep by the burning pine on the morning of november lake.
Disney Offering Bundled Deal For Cable Cord Cutters
"Addition digital brought to you by h new york's ultimate cameras superstar disney is turning up the heat in the battle for cable cord cutters. It's november debut. You of disney plus will cost seven dollars a month but disney says you can also get it as part of the discounted bundle with e._s._p._n. Plus an ad supported version of hulu for thirteen dollars a month that saves you five dollars. If you were to buy all three services separately and that's the same price netflix most popular standard plan the move from disney comes as apple gets ready to launch its own streaming service this fall and as n._b._c. universal will debut its own offering next year disney says it's also considering reboots of fox franchises like home alone night at the museum in diary of a wimpy kid. The house of mouse bought twenty first century fox for seventy. One billion donner's earlier this year dishing digital. I'm palmer dane and there's more at w._c._b._s. Eighty dot com slash dish in digital.
'Warm glow' of Uranus's rings captured by scientists in amazing new heat images
"Donner's have finally been able to see the rings around Uranus which weren't even discovered until nineteen seventy seven Newt. He knew heat images of the planet taken by two large telescopes and Chile show just how bright they really are. Scientists say that the thermal glow gives them another window onto the rings and noted that Uranus brightest and densest ring. Differs from the beautiful rings of
In Vietnam, There's Hope North Korea Will Follow Its Model For Economic Success
"Support for this NPR podcast and the following message. Come from Cleveland Clinic ranked the nation's number one heart care, according to US news and World Report for information on complex cases treated at Cleveland Clinic, or to get a second opinion. Visit Cleveland Clinic dot org slash heart care, the choice of Vietnam to host this week summit between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong own is full of symbolism like North Korea. Vietnam is a one party communist state that fought bitterly against the US since that war. Vietnam has made peace with the US and prospered now Kim is seeing the results first hand from Vietnam. Michael Sullivan has more. In nineteen sixty seven during what the Vietnamese call the American war North Korean pilot secretly fought alongside there. Communist comrades flying combat missions against American bombers in the skies over North Vietnam. Some of the North Koreans who died were buried here about an hour from the capitol where caretaker fund Dow opens the gate to a modest memorial fourteen headstones the names of the dead etched in Korean on one side in Vietnamese on the other he lights some incense and says a quick prayer. The memorial doesn't get many visitors these days, he says the bodies were actually repatriated more than a decade ago. But the headstones remain Donner the dead. I didn't lie. He's hitting the middling. They were foreigners. They came to fight for our country, and they died for country. So this memorial is to remember their sacrifice. But all that the caretaker says is in the past more than fifty eight thousand American lives were lost with over three million. Vietnamese debtor missing. But the US and Vietnam are now frenzy says having normalized relations twenty years after the war's end that decision says, economists laid along Sean still baffles visitors. From young young the North Korean delegation. All the time us me. Why did you memorize relation to the US you live in fighting for so long? How did you do it? The simple answer the advisor to several Vietnamese Prime Minister says was necessity like North Korea. Now postwar Vietnam was crippled by economic sanctions and trade embargo by the US something had to give I have told him. We never forget the pass. But now we look to the future and Vietnam must develop the economy much industrialized. And it's the best way to have an animal and friendly relation to the US and that policy has helped make Vietnam economy. One of the fastest growing in Asia over the past two decades and best of all perhaps from dictator Kim Jong UN's perspective. He would see development of the economy under the one by the ruling congress party rule. One knock Zhao is. Director of the institute for policy law and development studies in Hanoi. He says the Vietnamese model should appeal to the North Korean strongman. He can you know, he'd some more freedoms fall the market economy freedom for the people in private sector and as a same time he can keep the political power. He learns his from Vietnamese communist party. Dinnertime downtown Hanoi. I'm standing outside the hole in the wall restaurant where former President Obama Anthony bourdain famously sat down for meal Boonchai and a beer few years back but tragedy the places closed renovations. They say kitchen fire said the neighbors. Let's try to talk to some people. Anyway. Inside the coffee shop next door tour guide one. We Ling is also unhappy one of his favorite restaurants is closed. I this come here for the food actually before a here. This also by famous restaurant in Hanoi. But not for tourists only for local Vietnamese. But went over my here like a bomb, boom. He reckons the Trump Kim summit might raise Vietnam profile on the world stage and help bring more tourists the coffee shops owner when mine isn't sure he doesn't think President Trump will show up at the restaurant this week. But he does think North Korea's Kim. Should learn from Vietnam's example and make peace with the US. They say. Hey, they will have to do that to survive because North Korean people have been suffering abject poverty for so long just as we did. So I think they need to change the follow Vietnam path if not he says, ordinary North Koreans lives are just going to get worse for NPR news. Michael Sullivan and annoy. This message comes from NPR sponsor. Comcast business. Business has always been driven by innovators. That's why Comcast business is helping you with technology that provides better experiences. Comcast business beyond fast.
Two Men Spent 340 Days in Space. Scientists Are Still Figuring Out What They've Learned
"All right between March two thousand fifteen March two thousand sixteen Ammann's Penneteau three hundred fifty seven hours being poked prodded sacrificing blood urine sweating through sprints letting other rita's journals after he had just completed three hundred and forty days in the space, and that man was Scott Kelly and with his Russian counterpart me, call Coronado coll-. They basically were the first. It was the first attempt Donner sand how such long stints without gravity effect the human body. But while the men returned earthly three years ago, scientists are still trying to figure out what they learned a new paperless out the test built into the one your mission, and it can take size in the context of longer space light would required to do a mission to Mars with a tour two three years, you know, without a lot of gravity. So. Anyway, they haven't quite figured out what they learned yet, which is kind of weird. Maybe they never figured out. Who knows he went bodies
Airline agent mocked 5-year-old epileptic girl’s name, mother claims
"Know, when you have a name like absolutely somebody somebody's probably gonna make fun of you from time to time hasn't come up yet. I'm sure it has, you know, I just don't know what you folks think. Sometimes when they come up with these really weird names, really weird spellings. I know what they're thinking. I'm going to give my daughter a really special name. But they don't realize what else they're giving them which is a lifetime of grief, and and probably the desire when their of legal age to change. So this is a five year old mom, and they go to the airport. This is where I believe that the gate agents step well over the line for one thing. It's not good customer service to be teasing. Anybody who's getting on board your plane Southwest Airlines? Would appreciate that number one. But number two she photographed the boarding pass. Oh, wow. Posted that on Facebook. Oh, so that's going a well above and beyond. S? Here's ABC's mom, by the way, explaining why she so upset, Tracy. Bradford says her Donner's unique name copy attention of a Southwest Airlines gate agent. This is absolutely. But her name is spelled ABCD. Negate even started mocking my child's name laughing pointing needed my daughter and talking to other employees turn around and just like, hey, I can hear you. So I can hear you my daughter can to like, I'd appreciate it. You just stop Bradford was catching a flight home to Al Paso, Texas. A few weeks ago from John Wayne airport in Orange County absolutely lives with epilepsy. So the Redford's always pre board while I was sitting there. She took a picture of my and chose to posted on social media, mocking my daughter, it was actually brought to my attention by somebody who. Skien on Facebook and reported it to Southwest Airlines. Yeah. That's probably not the wise thing for the for the gate agent in that particular case, but that poor child five years. Oh, she's going to go to first grade next year. So she's got epilepsy. That doesn't help the situation either. So there you go. Sometimes it's you know. It's tempting. When you see something like that to make fun. It's also extremely tempting for me to lectured. The parents say why would you do that, you know, come up with a name like like that? You you gotta know. I'm sure like you say, I'm
"donner" Discussed on Last Podcast on the Left
"A little. No rim would be on door. Oh, I was supposed to be a forty mile stretch taken only five days. Okay, but it was actually closer to a hundred and ended up taking over two weeks. Big difference there. Yeah. Yes. The oxen and cattle died from thirst. While others just took off and search water. Numerous wagons had to be abandoned in the thick desert gunk mud that was created when water rose to the surface during the daytime. Needless to say the Donner party's spent their entire time in the desert terrified miserable, and near death by accounts. Every one was caked with urine in feces while the women stink of stale minstrel blood and yeast infections, their faces were burnt and read, and their lips were split and bleeding by the time, the Donners rejoined the established trail since leaving it at the parting of ways. It had been sixty eight days those who had stayed on the tried and true organ trail. They had reached the same point in thirty seven days. Punch myself in the face. Jackass path and to make matters worse. It was later discovered that the shortcut instead of being three hundred fifty miles shorter was actually a hundred and twenty five miles a longer. No, no. When I said shortcut emit shortcut in the way that you're going to die younger, like that kind of short. Understood. I should've clarified yet. The original train that they'd been a part of had passed that point a month before. Oh, my God. Yeah. Needless to say, tensions were running high. She's specifically towards James read, I know really understand why everybody's mad at me concerned. We should be mad at the desert. It's really the desert's problem, right? Honestly, we chose to do this. I, the human brain is what I blame is this even for having ideas. I blame ideas..
"donner" Discussed on Timesuck with Dan Cummins
"The oxen horses and other animals died various families had brought their dogs out west as well they all died many were eaten the reeds did adopt two of the donner children they that's nice many of the widows who made it out remarried quickly women were in short supply out west some married before summer hit the youngest of the donner children threeyearold elisa would publish an account of what happened that winner in one thousand nine eleven one young traveller nancy graves was nine years old during the winter eighteen forty six eighteen forty seven she refused to acknowledge her involvement even when contacted by historians interested in recording the most accurate version of the tale she reportedly was unable to recover from her role in the cannibalism of her brother and mother shed eater brother and her mom that lewis keys berg the guy who probably eight camps donner he brought a definite well did eater but may have killed her brought a defamation suit against several members of the release par party who did accuse him of murdering tamsin donner the court awarded him a dollar in damages also made him pay court costs so you can tell the court probably was a little suspicious that he may have done it and eighteen forty seven story printed in the california star described keys perks actions in ghoulish terms and and his near lynching by the salvage party reported they reported that he preferred eating human flesh over the cattle and horses and that had become exposed in the spring thaw historian charles charles mcglashan amassed enough material to indict key for the murder of thompson donner but then he interviewed him and then he concluded that he didn't think a murder had occurred as key spur grilled or became a hermit kept himself a guess business wasn't too good at his restaurant probably didn't have finger steaks on the menu he became a social pariah routinely threatened told mcglashan i often think that the almighty his singled me out among all the men on the face of the earth in order to see how much hardship suffering and misery a human can bear others now memorial to where the camp was trapped for the winter the donner memorial state park the top of the twenty two foot tall pedestal indicates how to snow was when rescue parties arrived twenty two feet deep what a nightmare amazement anyone made it out alive maze that they were able to be rescued of those who who died in the donner party thirty four died that winter and what did we learn this episode outside of some history well we learned that some people we another person just as as themselves and others others won't we'll kind of person you are you the kind of eat somebody to survive or not would you rather die i think i would do it i think of someone was already dead especially someone i didn't know well i think i could do it it was my immediate family i don't think i could i couldn't eat my kids i couldn't eat lindsey i don't think i could eat my doodles i don't think i could get my parents i couldn't even parents or grandparents i don't think it might allegany my sister or nieces nephews that kind of stuff i feel like i have a few cousins i could eat i could eat a few my neighbors there's some people to gm i could definitely eat some strangers for sure for some reason i picture myself eating a ideally ginger why is that maybe because i i enjoy poultry and maybe they're white skin reminds me of poultry meat but that's doesn't make sense because i think i think it would be more like beef yeah would you know so i guess a person's color doesn't matter someone lean that's my preference i like a lean steak filet mignon i don't like fatty steak i would like somebody lena musco i pictured them having you know more steak maybe like a serena williams she looks tasty to me is that weird to say tom hardy the actor tom hardy he looks maybe he's just so manley he looks i feel like he'd make a tasty steak is that weird i'm gonna stop now who would you eat discuss amongst yourselves it's not time for top five takeaways.
"donner" Discussed on Citation Needed
"Htc no they can tell the story so the the second really party took seventy more people for the camp leaving only about ten p behind one including georgian tamsin donner along with three of their kids i i guess they really wanted their name to be i build on this wicket beating a weird weird choice century equivalent to shoot your boyfriend through a book on youtube seriously like at this point like what wouldn't you do to be part of the rescued grew raines one shoving rose more voters j gardner how trade so we're almost to the end story but they're still a few critical boxes w we haven't checked yet most importantly the parents eating babies check box but don't worry here comes atheism for the win damn right and i as the third voter rescue team was headed truckee lake they passed a group of the second wave heading out of the mountains this included eleven survivors including a mother and her oneyearold baby plus the corpses of her two other little kids looking like partially eaten apples oh okay but to be fair rather eat a nineteenth century child than an apple have you try come stirred bleeding it thought horror what it is eight the whole fucking thing before you take a bite out of an accident like to have every kid fuck your narrative of course one another.