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Introducing: NATURAL DISASTERS, a new Parcast Original!

Haunted Places

15:29 min | 1 year ago

Introducing: NATURAL DISASTERS, a new Parcast Original!

"I'm delighted to tell you about another. Fascinating park has to original called natural disasters. It tells the story of the earth's worst catastrophes acts of nature that took countless lives destroyed communities and toppled civilizations right now you get to hear a clip of the first episode episode on krakatoa of quesnel that erupted in eighteen eighty three killing thousands and destroying civilization in the industrial eight to listen to the full. Oh i episode follow natural disasters for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts. I hope you enjoy it. In the year. Five thirty five see the islands of indonesia were still largely cut off from the rest of the world. Those who populated the beaches in this era were industrious people who labored away on rice farms or on fishing boats among among many gods and goddesses they worshiped davies three the goddess of rice. She provided the people with their main source of nourishment can't but there was another god in the islands though it had been sleeping for millions of years it sat beneath the earth watching with disinterest as the little islanders went about their little lives for reasons unknown the god then awoke vomiting and releasing a thirty mile high cloud of rock fire and ash and the blast was a hundred million times more powerful than the manmade bomb that would destroy hiroshima over a thousand thousand years later inhabitants of the island scarcely had time to flee as soon nabis washed their villages into the sea those who's who did make it to the hills couldn't run fast enough to avoid being burned by clouds of smoke. The god let out one last fiery belch then hit exploded devastating the remaining countryside and leaving a crater in its wake there amidst the pumice and bodies a new god began to form the descendant of the old one its name would become infamous is synonymous with death and creation. It was not the hindu shiva or the shinto sodomy. No its name was krakatoa and over a thousand years later in eighteen eighty three it would prove far deadlier than its father. Welcome to natural turell disasters a podcast original. I'm your host. Kate and i'm bill every monday will explore the moments in history. When the natural world turned deadly you can find all episodes of natural disasters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen podcasts to stream natural disasters for free on spotify just open the app tap browse and type natural disasters in the search barr from the first recorded earthquake in ancient china in sixteen hundred b._c. E to hurricane katrina in new orleans in two thousand five natural disasters have plagued mankind for the entirety of our existence learning about these events is humbling but it also demystify what used to seem like the wrath of the gods tectonic plates crashing together ocean water being sucked into a vortex massive columns of air twisting into a funnel. We now know what makes these disasters tick but the remain just as deadly the following phenomena all fall under the category of natural disasters earthquakes landslides slides and mudslides volcanoes extreme heat extreme winds lightning wildfires floods drought tornadoes rose winter weather hurricanes and soon armies. Each of these has the ability to not only kill but to wipe out entire. Here's civilizations when they strike. They remind us that despite being the dominant life form on the earth we are nothing compared to the the geological and atmospheric forces of the planet. This is our first of two episodes on krakatoa also known as it's krakatau a volcano that erupted in eighteen eighty three killing thousands and destroying civilization in the soon to straight eight the strip of ocean between western java and southern sumatra. The impacts of the volcano were felt throughout the world and today it is still considered one of the deadliest natural disasters in history in today's episode. We'll follow the volcanoes geological yeah logical development over a thousand years as well as the development of civilization along the soon to straight will then meet the inhabitants of the straight circa eighteen eighty three and stay with them as they experienced the beginning of the eruption next episode. We'll cover the bulk of the eruption as is it devastates. Java and sumatra will explore how it made an impact worldwide then question whether such an eruption is as possible today according to the global volcano network as of july two thousand thousand nineteen there are fifty erupting volcanos on the planet this makes them a rare breed when compared to natural disasters such as a tornado or snowstorm but once a volcano does erupt it can have global consequences krakatoa though oh not the deadliest volcano in history displayed some of the most dread inspiring natural phenomena. It's constant eruptions generated raided soon nominees every hour the volcanoes ash plume caused palmist to rain from the sky for miles magma seeping from the ocean ocean floor turned the sea to acid this is to say nothing of krakatoa most stunning display its final implosion that led to the loudest sound in recorded history heard throughout the world more than any other volcano krakatoa reminds us that these fiery mary behemoths are not to be underestimated. They are capable of destroying entire civilizations in the blink of an eye and and their effects spread across the globe in may eighteen eighty three dutch colonists continued to exploit the soon into straight as they had for two hundred years in the middle of the strait surrounded by water the volcano slept it had grown into a sizable sizable island measuring about six miles across with its highest peak reaching almost three thousand feet into the air locals incorrectly assumed it was actually three volcanoes pair boo john donavan and raka there were three funnels on the island oakland but in order to actually be considered as three separate volcanoes they would have to be fed by their own magma chamber. This was not not the case. One magma chamber fed all three funnels. They were one volcano not three one massive killer. You're the large island of java was located about fifty miles to the east. It contained the fourth point lighthouse on its western shore her as well as the dutch hub of batavia in its central region the even larger island of sumatra light fifty miles to the north of krakatoa several dutch colonies dotted its shores including cut tim bong home of johannah and willem buyer may fifteenth eighteen eighteen eighty three johanna and her husband villain sat in their mansion in cut tim bog sumatra eyeing each other nervously as the latest tremor rocked walk their home vilim was the dutch controller for the colony essentially the head accountant for the local economy. It was demanding job job that had long since outgrown the simple description of accountant and come to include more general island management responsibilities tremors remers had become commonplace in the area throughout may eighteen eighty three it was at least enough for villain and johanna to write a telegram to be sent to their supervisor visor. Something should be done they thought but what they weren't sure they had two young children and a baby on the way and their parental instincts were kicking in not strongly enough it would turn out it took them five days to work up the courage to send the telegram telegram by that time may twentieth eighteen eighty three. There was much more obvious cause for alarm. The volcano krakatoa had silently silently blown. It's top and was now spewing a thirty six thousand foot cloud of ash lava and pumice into the air this this resembles a stromboli and type eruption in which volcano releases gas into the air but not much lava it is often caused by pockets of ocean water seeping into the volcanoes magma stream and exploding volcano was becoming unstable. If sea water was being heated inside of it then that meant the water covered tectonic plate it sat on was moving down into the crust plate next to it this process she's known as subduction tectonic plates are massive pieces of the earth's crust that constantly move and crash into one another generating earthquakes and volcanoes as water was sucked down toward the earth's core it was superheated and traveled as magma back toward the earth earth surface this filled volcanoes magma chamber and made it fit to burst krakatoa was merely warming up this was a fireworks display before the main event and dick cruelly lured the dutch colonizers and the locals into into believing that this was the worst the volcano had to offer in may eighteen eighty three only johanna and villa meiring seemed to be taking the situation seriously on may twenty first villa met with local fishermen who claim that the beach they had been fishing on literally exploded exploded the sandbank split apart with black smoke and lava spewing forth he the other fishermen barely escaped with their lives lives. Johanna was skeptical finding their story to be too grandiose to believe but then the buyer inks received a response to their telegram. The dutch government wanted villa to personally investigate the volcano. This was a nerve wracking assignment who who knew what could happen to someone who stepped foot on the volcano. Nevertheless villains hired a local guide and took a small boat across us the straight as they approached the island was obscured by thick smoke film watched as the water beneath the boat gradually early turned from its natural blue color to a shade of muddy gray soon the lapping waves grew heavy with ash and stones orange villain and his guide gagged as their lungs were filled with poisonous gas peering through the thick smoke they could just barely make out the volcano it slopes as empty and gray as the water surrounding it like the fable of the frog in a pot of boiling wailing water the people of tim bong and batavia the main colony java were being slowly cooked alive unaware of the increasing increasing temperatures beneath their feet after his boat trip to the waters around krakatoa villain bierring turned back from from the island apparently not making landfall and by may twenty seventh eighteen eighty three he was relieved that the volcano seem i'm to have calmed there was no longer any significant plume of smoke rising from the spires volcanoes continue tranquility over the next several weeks led many to believe that there was no further danger either that or they became accustomed to krakatoa peculiarities fishermen accepted the gashes and boiling water surrounding the island and learned cast their nets elsewhere and the citizens in the colonies became less and unless afraid of the occasional tremor that shook their homes according to research done by the history channel a woman in nearby batavia. Ah was annoyed that the earthquakes interrupted the buck concerts at townhall author simon winchester writes that there are very few reports of the volcano from june and july eighteen eighty three all that remains are some fake references to smoke emanating reading from the island. It was clear that something was brewing beneath a volcano but the colonists and locals could be forgiven for failing to who imagine the magnitude of what was soon to take place. Perhaps the barrier of water separating the island from the colonies gave people a false false sense of security. Perhaps the greed of the dutch led them to ignore the problem and fear of the colonizers prevented the islanders from fleeing league but krakatoa was a hulking unfeeling thing and as the summer reached it's end in august eighteen eighty three. It prepared to unleash an apocalypse on the sunanda straight. What a frightening turn one of offense to find out what happens next follow natural disasters for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts.

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Bitcoin Please Pull Back

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

06:24 min | 9 months ago

Bitcoin Please Pull Back

"Get everybody welcome to the podcast videos today afternoon and if you haven't gone Hong Audits on twitter. It's a shot if that was on Youtube Youtube. Keep me out again. Y We have done nothing wrong but apparently youtube to saw that we need to be quiet Alexa little bit anyway. Long Story Short Youtube thumbs down to it. It sums up so youtube and twitter. You can see the video. There is a breakdown of the annual Might view this year. If we honestly have borne of position might follow around theories loss you and You know you might WanNa have a look at it. It's it's something that's true is truth for me. It is what it is and I'm John Donavan on a mutual. They might as well bloody subscribe so I mean come on. Let's get that done if it's donald already anyhow you will still stood with a called. That's despite a crab I sound and I should feel too bad in. This plug is GonNa get in the water today. Yes it is a wonderful day at the. The water is clear and swales downs on streets of fish. Well the plan anyway so here I am getting through my content getting through what I need to do in the morning. I'M GONNA get the water for a couple of hours around lunchtime. And how what's going on in the markets one the great deal the last twenty four hours. We sent him down point nine percent. We talk about Bitcoin and across the board and within the top ten a little bit about mis similar. Then this up nisus good. English is far more uppity than the Dow. Not when we knew that out there in classic is up seven point three percent for those. The took that tried that went out in the community War On last week the week before from the entry point we are up. Let me tell you what. The percentage tempos it is one hundred and twenty two percent. And don't forget that sounds fantastic sofa but one bitcoin of my who won Bitcoin back without leverage we use leverage. Yes that's right you see. We do use leverage. We make sure the way you use leverage words viable way US F T X for a leverage on the sorts of contracts. Now if you would like ten percent off your trading phase to open up an F. T. X. account just drop us an email admit at try to call dot dot com and we will get you that link and we we get kicked back on that as well from the phase. FT Chai's doesn't help us in around that way as well uh-huh helping you to help us. So it was a nine thousand three hundred twenty three dollars and fifty cents. It is dead point nine five percent push out needs to push up to some Ohio is but I'm actually quite happy to save a pull back here. Mark but trading opportunity or who shall wait and see if they're against the dollar is at one seventy five twenty three three point five all a percent also holding up around those didn't quite break as a new highs around that one eighty region yesterday whereas bitcoin did accept a holding strong in that zone right. Now he's actually downsized at twenty three point six cents stand one point four two percent but there is a flat level signifying bitcoin. Bright Cat taught the thing sitting up there on those low term. Timeframes it on keeping a very close on the same can be said for. BITCOIN cash three tests on Bitcoin. Cash on just waiting to see how this poppy be set up and that should be my watch. This didn't fly with us now. It's it's won't giving on. It's not there just yet as a three to eighty five three hundred eight five point eight three percent on the day base as being relatively caught over the last few days. It's up at Sorry sorry it's down one point six four percent and Two hundred ninety two goals and fifty cents lots claim a petrol a lot twin against the dog show. You WanNa look at it with sitting bang on sixty shmegegge rooms now. One point one five percent right now not a great deal on their lots coin unfortunately scuff resistance that sixty two spot sixty four spirituals or does only at just below the fold Hang in there. Dan One point flight vison. He's a thing. We stopped out last night in whiting full old for ells. BITCOIN is set up in a did. It had some resistance ahead But also can get my mom to one well a full. That still fits my rules as it should turn pan out. I got stopped at Eve night. So my Wonderful run well actually notions of a wonderful Ron because during class of Trade Adib Bank some serious money which is great but the very beginning of the next cluster tried to sell it as was a loss sauna to keep an eye on that one losses. Fawn won't isn't a big deal but where we have we do have loses. Well it's not just about the winning streaks. We get both by the coin. This is the world we leave him so three hundred like a set down one point. Six percent bonnets got resistance. There eighteen dollars and thirty six cents or thereabouts. Our seventeen dollars and ninety two cents right now. Pointing on Cod Donna continues. Its very strong. Run higher up two percent today at five point four cents looking for a pullback here ultimately get something back into that full point six cents on the dilate highly What a Doozy Bay? Not Holding my breath theorem. Classic is a twelve dollars and twenty two cents. It's up seven point one five percent today absolutely Louis kick in the pants off everything else in the top ten and looking lock. It's not gonNA slide at anytime soon. But luckily tablet pull back at some stage. They always do. Trump's could days run this week as well with sitting at one point eight cents up point seven non of send that rounds out your top ten to die. Lost Twenty four hours have been relatively sluggish. What does that mean anything? Not GonNa wait and see what goes on Gazan if you'll wait and see what goes on when it comes to your wedding too long. We get a bull market this year like big quantity the hundreds of God. Damn things getting US Mogae learn to try. Take your time do properly. This is for you get across the my website. I'D TRY TO COPE DOT com. Let us know even if If you WANNA get that account set up with some discount training phase that woke some bonds as well as the exodus let us know. We'll send you the links throw in that we can get a guy looking forward to working with you in twenty twenty I share this rampage. Let the trump. No there is somebody who Who is easily? WHO's GONNA call who you're going to strain action talked markets on the PODCAST? Get me in. There is an all be very happy. Thanks for your time. Have a great day case molly often.

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Allison Schrager on Risk and Reason In Everyday Life

Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates

44:18 min | 1 year ago

Allison Schrager on Risk and Reason In Everyday Life

"Hi everybody i'm john donvan host and moderator of intelligence squared u._s. debates and whereas normally this is a debate. We're doing something different. You might have noticed noticed a series of conversations with five very sharp thinkers on how we are shaping our public discourse today. It's all part of new interview. Series from intelligence intelligence squared that we're calling discourse disrupters by guests are going to be looking in new ways at complex and nuanced topics particularly in how we process them and talk about them with an eye on my part on looking toward reason and logic and the value of real facts and i'm talking to them also about how we we can all step away from the straitjacket of partisan talking points and also at the same time bring some civility and substance back to american political discourse so this is the second episode of discourse disrupters if you missed the first one where i spoke with former a._c._l._u. heading strossen and n._y._u. Law professor thane rosenbaum about hate speech in american law. You can find that right now online at i._q. To u._s. dot o._r._g. That's i q the number two u._s. Dot org now. Let's move forward on this one. My guest for this conversation is economist and author alison schrager alison. Welcome to intelligence squared. Thank you for having me. I'm pretty sure i've seen your face out audience at our debate the biggest fan girl i go to to be an i just i i. I love everything about it. In one sentence what some of what you love about breath it makes me think i learned something new and it's provocative and my favorite thing that ever happens is someone convinces me to change changed my mind well. That's actually something that we want to talk about but it's a pleasure to have plucked you from our audience into the studio for compensation really in our wheelhouse the whole nature and quality of debate and conversation and what shapes our ability to listen and to think and to judge critically so you offer those who don't know your journalistic unlisted courts here co-founder of life cycle finance partners. That's a firm that advises on risk to that <hes> you have a career. That's a lot of places says you've worked in finance. You've worked in policy. You've worked in media. You're a journalist <hes>. You're a consultant to the end to the i._m._f. And now you've come matt with a book called an economist walks into a brothel which which sounds like the setup to a joke so what's the punchline to the joke. I don't have an answer to that. People keep asking me that and i was a comedian who said he'd come up with something but you know for me when i when i came up with that line i was thinking of how oh i purposely seek out when i did this book. Maybe this is why i like the debate so much people who had challenged me and take my what i thought i knew to new knowledge college so i purposely seek out situations wear. Here's this thing i think i know which is you know financial theory and and that i would end up in these worlds that we make very uncomfortable and would challenge what i thought i knew or take it to a new place and so when i thought that line i didn't even i know i guess i knew it was a joke but it was more in my head. I was a i. I was crossing the rubicon. I guess of in this new place that certainly made me uncomfortable but also taught me a lot well what you just said getting. I think to just my first question. I want to quote something slightly paraphrasing that you wrote well into the book at the end end of chapter six you right we might want to seek out different viewpoints and be open to friendships with people who don't always share our opinions avoid groupthink form team of people who approached problems with different perspectives attempt a civil political discussion with someone who doesn't share your opinion. How does how does all of these ideas and up in what is basically <hes> a book that in some fashion could be called financial advice. Well you know financial. Finance is just the study of risk right but we face 'ambiguities almost every decision we make and so that particular chapter was was about how we're really lousy assessing risk and understanding probabilities and really because we a lot of biases and we wanna know believe something a certain because it enforces our biases and this happens in business it could happen if your spouse is convinced that it takes ten minutes to get to the airport but you're convinced it takes thirty eight minutes and then one time he had no traffic on one time you terrible traffic so you know in both in your head. You believe that there's this certain time but really it's uncertain how long it's gonna take you so this is why it's important to talk to people with different viewpoints because they can help us make beggar risk assessments because they have a different point of view of what could go wrong alright alright. Basically you're saying they might know stuff that. We don't know exactly or have experienced realities that we haven't experienced. They definitely do because everyone does. I mean you only. You're living your own reality so you're always going to find people who have a different experience. You can learn from so let's step back and just very broadly. Look at what the book is about overall overall. You've already mentioned risk which is a key thought that goes throughout it. But what did you set out to do. In the book run us through the places you went and we can go back to some of those places well. The initial idea was i was concerned as a economist who studies retirement that people really weren't understanding risk ambiguity very well <hes>. I think people will often say no one can understand risk but i feel strongly that people can. We're just not giving them the tools and i've i've also just been concerned about how there's just been this real move towards populism in certainty when we have a lot of ambiguity so i studied retirement finance which is the study of risk because finance is the study of risk in financial markets but i felt like these lessons could be applied anywhere so by retirement finance you mean you study the question of how folks will put aside money for later in life and have money there and how that works and to do it okay exactly which is really really the most classic of all risk problems because it's how can you turn money now into money in the future. If you take more risk you can end up with more in the future but you risk the possibility of loss and there's a lot of things you don't know. You don't know how long you're gonna live. You don't know what your salary is going to be so there's all these sources of risk. Your is constantly managing managing so it's it's it's a very sort of simple yet the same time very sophisticated risk problem and you know being in that world and seeing how people just weren't getting these fundamentals. I really wanted to help. People understand risk better <hes> but i also from my studies with different financial thinkers started to notice assist. These same problems were everywhere. They weren't about retirement. They weren't about finance they were everywhere and i also just had a curiosity about different industries so i had this idea that i would travel the country and people in industries that absolutely nothing to do with finance an actually i had absolutely no knowledge or expertise often and figure out how how they work and how they think about risk and how they manage it and how they deal with ambiguity just took off six of the places you into so the broncos in the chapter <hes> <hes> criminals <hes> i went to a big wave surfing risk conference horse-breeding. I military generals. I think that's that's a lot to go back to you and your focus on all of this is looking at the challenge of dealing with ambiguity around risk when you don't actually have all the facts that you might like to know what's going to happen in the future but let's just talk about the concept of risk because you've already mentioned. It's a word that people don't understand. I am not as reading the book. I i kept thinking i saw risk. I defined different ways or different aspects of it. Were being addressed so on the one hand. You're talking about risk. It sounded to me in the sort of the lamond sense that it means danger but but also just seems to mean the chance of danger which is different from danger. It's it's the probability is it will happen as opposed to the you know. Will i fall off a cliff as opposed to is the cliff dangerous and then there was just another aspect to it that it suggested to me that you were talking about risk actually means unpredictability about the future which is again not the same thing as danger and it's not the same thing about the probability but it's just about the fact that it's hard to know what the future so am i am i walking around the concept of what risk is or is it all of those things you've pretty much just said are like like sort of very nicely summarized are very complicated feelings about risk from my perspective as someone who studies it in an academic or in a sense it is risk is very clear definition to me which is it is the whole range of things that could happen that you think could happen in the odds that they will so it'd be like a probability <unk> distribution so it doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing no not at all. I mean within that distribution. There are bad things so it's the whole range of things <hes> but it's measurable economists think of a different kind of of i guess not risk but uncertainty which is an eighteen uncertainty which are the things you can never anticipate this from our perspective. The future is is uncertain and but there's a range of things you can anticipate and then there's a bunch of stuff you can anticipate in risk is the things we can anticipate. It's our best guess of the future and that includes good and bad things because you have to take risks to get what you want. You take risks for a positive outcome. I mean you invest in the stock market hoping you'll get rich rich or the very least have more money. Be don't invest in the stock market. Although you should be wary of the fact that possibility for loss so at least for the purposes of this conversation we should not be thinking risk means dangerous well. I mean you do expose yourself to change when you take risk. That's that's the downside okay but we can also say that risk has an upside it does and that's why you take it but it you know the reason why we associate risk with dangerous is very natural thing we tend to be more loss awesome verse and in fact i go through the analogy of the word risk had always traditionally meant danger until i think you know the renaissance and people started to think about risk of something measurable that the definition even really change you also right that there is some languages in which the root of the word risk means dare take a day or take a chance which which could have the connotation of go for it. You know you may not know but take the leap yeah exactly and is it that changed around the renaissance when people started thinking about risk as something that would bring upside yeah so the brothels story the title of your book your first chapter the what were you looking for their we're to go. I went to nevada. I went to a town just outside carson city where i visited for different brothels. I went there before <hes> to do a story on negotiation skills because they have a fairly extensive negotiation training program to teach women how to ask for for more money because a lot of women myself included have problems you get intimidated asking for money and initiation so oh i i went there for negotiation training and i was really just floored by the business skills women had there and not only that how much money they could charge charge and at first i thought this is just great businesswomen but then i realized it was actually a risk premium that they're able to charge this huge markup because they really earlier offering something very low risk to their customers usually if you visit a sex worker there's a lot of risk involved. I mean you could get caught by the police. There's been and a lot of very high profile. People caught with sex workers have to worry about that. There's a lot of disease screening. There's a lot of security so people pay this huge aged markup and a lot of people. I said just aren't comfortable breaking the law for good reason you pay this markup to reduce all of this risk. I'm john donvan more with economist ellison trigger when intelligence squared u._s. continues. I'm john donavan. Welcome back to intelligence squared u._s. My guest is alison schrager. She is an economist journalist a professor at n._y._u. And author author of an economist walks into a brothel and other unexpected places to understand risk. We were just discussing title where allison discovered how at a nevada brothel men piece ex-workers alarge markup in order to reduce risk. I asked her how this affects. The women working at those brothels they book a lot more money like they <hes> they charged three times the price for an equivalent service <hes> in the illegal market but they have to get fifty percents the brothel and pay taxes because they are legal sex workers and so they're also paying another twenty five thirty thirty five percent on top of that so in the end they're probably making about the same or less than someone who works in the illegal part of the industry plus. If the living nevada plus they have to deal with all the hassles of of you know a workplace. There's a lot of people on all the structure but they also are seeking a low risk environment. They also don't want to break the law. They also don't want to worry about having to screen clients in case they might be violent lunatics or police or all of the things illegal sex workers have to deal with so for the purposes of your thesis. What did your visit to the brothel in nevada tell you this central question in financial economics is can we put a price on risk because once you put a price on rescue can sell it to someone else so you can reduce it so when i was there learning negotiation skills. I was struck that there's even a price on risk for sex you also talk about you talk about this in in the the instance of the women. They need to know what they want. They need to know what their goals are and you talk a lot about this concept of the risk free goal so that was a really fundamental argument in the books that talk a little bit about what that means well you know i think when reason we tend to associate risks with danger is people often you know take a risk without really sort of thinking through what they want because we don't associate risk with progress or getting what we want but really the reason why you wanna take take a risk. Is you want to get something out of it. I you know you want <hes> you know a plus retirement or you want a particular job so you need to be very thoughtful and what what you're taking a risk for because if you're like if i take this risk there's a chance i'm going to get that and that is something you want. Then you know the risk is much more likely to go well so say the woman the brothel were very clear what they wanted. Which is they would like to do this work. There's a variety of reasons why i think for. I don't know how many women i spoke to dozens zain's between the surveys i did their work didn't negotiation skills. You know i've i've spoken to many of them but they'll every single. One is a different reason for doing this work <hes> but they're all very clear on what they're what they want out of being there which is i would like to do this work and i don't want to have this face any risk doing it so in life are should we be looking for the risk free alternative no or at least know what the risk free learned. We should always know what the risk free alternativists so so risk free is a fundamental part of finance which is it is how you can get where you want without taking any risk at all so for instance if you won <hes> to turn you one hundred dollars into one hundred dollars is next year you would invest put in a bank account or a treasury bill pays no interest you guarantee not to lose any money <hes> for the sex workers. It's you know working in the legal. Brothel brothel is risk free but they give a lot of their earnings for that so it's always realistic to go for risk free. Sometimes it's just too expensive <hes> other times sometimes it's just you're comfortable with a little bit of risks. You're willing to go for more but you should always start with thinking through what is risk free to me because that one helps you clarify what your goals czar and also helps you put a price and helps you gauge how much risk you're willing to take isn't possible that you could want you could want risk free but you also want the thing that that you would have to take a risk for and you can't have it both ways. Yes and i think this is where often people run into trouble <hes>. They think something's risk-free when it's not or they're frustrated. They're not getting more because they said they wanted something. That was risk. Free <hes> and that's the that's the problem we we all would like to get a in finance. It's it's the same trade-off you have anywhere else. Which is the more risk you take the more you can get for less. Maybe but the trade off is you have this possibility of loss and if everything's risk free for you you're not going to get that much but you do have certainty and this is this tradeoff often is it. It's not realistic. You don't have we would all maybe like to have a risk free retirement where we don't have to invest in the stock market and have any possibility of loss but that's just most people can't save enough. You'd have to save a lot more money if you don't invest in a risky asset set and for some people they can loss and that's their choice and they have to save more but for most of us. It's just not realistic. We have to expose ourselves to risk to get more and have you had in your life life as an economist. Have you have a challenge in figuring out what the real risk free alternatives to things arm and is challenging for you as not as an economist but as a human being all the time you know it's it's i say it's the same in the book is the hardest thing it's the most basic and fundamental strategy is being clear on what you want but it's also also really hard. I think very few of us are always like very clear on like this is what i want. Out of. Life is certainly one of the reasons. My careers probably meandered a bit is <hes>. I've since become clear on what it is. I'm searching for in the common thread between all these experiences but i certainly went through grad school unclear about what i was doing there yeah. I knew i loved economics. I knew i love studying. I knew i loved. The debate. Loved the rigor but you love you. Love the material so i'm going to say so. What's wrong with you you. You were doing something that you loved well and this was the revelation i had later. Which is you're in this environment and you love this about it but you didn't realize i was really investing in one risk free asset which was to be an economics professor which is very nice stable life so that was your goal no but that was what i was investing in because you do in a p._h._d. Program program that is the goal what you get at the end yes if you do it right but then i got the end i'm like well. I don't want this. He'd have gone through this incredibly difficult time. Consuming degree and in the end the reward is something i've absolutely no interest in so in the end i i after years of trying different jobs i realized and what i loved about. It was the rigor. I love being an economist more than anything because it's such an amazing field in that the economy is always changing changing and growing and i find it so exciting that when i was twenty i thought i understood the economy. No i'm forty two and i think i understand the economy and when i'm sixty two. I look back on how i am now. I didn't know anything and that's what's great about being an economist. You're always having your beliefs challenged in stretched but i realized is it didn't have to be professor to do that. I was told in grad school i did because that is the goal and that was the risk free goal because it's almost automatic that if you get a p._h._d. Here saying i'm very high odds that you see other academic fields people especially at good economics p._h._d. Programs get jobs in academia <hes> and once you have. That's a fairly risk free life. You know you especially most people get tenure and you don't have to ever worry about getting fired and it's a very stable path. You know where it's going and is a very well worn path half but you're not saying there's anything wrong with that. No it just wasn't right for me. I was willing to take more risks. You know i don't know what i'll be doing five years but i do get that same excitement excitement and rigor that my friends in academia do i mean we we hear risk kind of lionised celebrated these days particularly in category of entrepreneurs and you know there's there's the story about somebody kind of taking it to the end and i remember star about one c._e._o. Taking the payroll when he was almost out of money to las vegas and putting it all on red and anyone and what a great story and it's terrible well we we never hear about we never hear the stories about people who took risk and got burned and lost. There's more of them. Why don't we hear their stories and do we need to hear their stories. Do need to hear the stories because my book argues which is sort of this sort of nuance third way of thinking about it which is taking risks good. It's important. It's how we move forward. You know a lot of people argue. Our society is a problem that people aren't taking the risks they used to entrepreneurship entrepreneurship is down. You know people aren't leaving their parents homes. <hes> risk taking is vital to our personal professional growth enter economic growth but it isn't like an all or nothing proposition not like either. You're you're completely interest. Free or your this huge risk taker. You can take manage thoughtful risks or calibrate your respect just so oh. You don't need to sort of bet the farm for on your company. <hes> you know in be celebrated. I think a better stroke should be telling about the c._e._o.'s took just enough risk. We're very clear about what the risks were that were important to take and then try to hedge or insure the risks as they went so in the beginning of the conversation. When i quoted quoted <hes> your your advice to get to hang out with people who might have different opinions from you that was on a chapter about poker players and what what you were focusing on. There was the fact that the winning poker players have figured out are are working on and some have figured out ways to actually reduce the the risk they're taking by going through a series of mental exercises and those exercises are aimed at them kind of cutting away the bs and and also importantly only cutting away their emotions cutting away bad instincts to have preconceptions at this is where it kind of circles back to what we're talking about with the public discourse intelligence squared but tell me tell us philipson a little bit about the the poker player you focused on and what he figured out to do and then i'd like it to land that in terms of the value of public discourse yeah he's a fascinating person phil hellmuth and he's a very famous poker player <hes> and he's very very famous only for winning a lot before throwing these huge tantrums when he loses <hes> so this is my chapter in loss aversion so you would think no one would be more versa loss than when he when he plays he's actually very rational and thoughtful and he has learned how to do all these things to through all the b._s. and be very clear so loss. Aversion asian is is when we're losing were more. We hate lost so much. We take bigger risks. Were down than were up and that's bad if you're playing poker. You want to be established that when we're losing we do take bigger risks risk prospect theory. This is dennis rodman's work so this is bad if you're playing poker because you wanna stay rational. You don't wanna take bigger risks when you're down and take fewer risks when you're up. You need to be consistent and thoughtful all the time. If you want to is phil says to win big <hes> but he is such a natural sore loser. I mean this is not natural for him at all so even talks about in the early days how he would pass out from exhaustion trying to keep his emotions and check but he does these things <hes> first of all he goes into every poker tournament steak which means other people put their money up so we never has too much his own money at stake so that keeps them rational in the risk is lower yes and he also lowers the risk <hes> by cutting these little side deals with <hes> other other people when he's about to win a tournament him in the other player will cut a deal like our eight wolf i win. I'll give you some of the money so you have less to lose guaranteed some winnings and also he talked a lot about how you know. It was very strange stories telling me how he's like. You know i really. I'm not a naturally arrogant guy but i really we need to stay humble so he was telling me some story about how he just wants. Some huge poker tournament in someone on twitter said you know you're overrated you're fraud and so he's like name all the people who've been better than i and it wasn't you know him just being like boastful like new and you can't he actually did wanna know who's better than he because he wanted that little bit humility is because he wanted to study. These guys are now. He just wanted to be reminded that he's not the best so it's at the end of that chapter that you say and i think it's inspired by his tweet you know tell me tell me who's better than me. You're you're broadening this out as advice to all of us not just in finance finance but all of us i think in all discourse hanging out with people who disagree with you get people to challenge your ideas. So how do you think we're doing as a society diety at that worse and worse. You know you know it's i mean part of it might be. I think social media. There's a lot of positive roles but it's very easy. Aziz said to take a very insular world and be with people who reinforce your values. I mean i personally follow a lot of people on twitter. I disagree with. There's sometimes wonder if that's counterproductive because i'm always so mad that they don't agree with me young and that you know they've made a a logically fallacious argument. This is just like how could they make that argument so in theory. I follow other people to help brought in my mind but i don't know if it works so well. So are you suggesting that your advice is not to taken no. You should take my advice but you should take it. Maybe twitter is not the way to practice it. I mean my favorite but you can make choices of of what magazines means you read. What what sites you go to things like that and not literally who you're going to hang out with. You know at dinner at work but you could do that as well but but it doesn't have to. Just be twitter what your the place to do it. I think you need to seek out really smart. People you respect for you disagree with vehemently i my editor at courts is very liberal but he was telling me he who is the national review religiously. He doesn't agree with a lot of it but he it's a they have good arguments. He disagrees with and he grows a lot by reading those arguments so you should find really good publications of smart people that you disagree with personally. My favorite conversations in the world are where i'm totally wrong and because i learn learn more i mean i grew up. I said economic seminar culture rose told i was wrong every day my twenty s so i'm comfortable with that. Some people are varying degrees but if someone improves you wrong you've learned something but isn't it hard for people if they've invested time and effort and years into holding a particular point of view <unk> isn't it isn't it if nothing else just kind of embarrassing to acknowledge that you were that wrong for that long isn't don't you want to hold onto for that reason. The law depends patterns how you handle it. I find that people are most impressed when people concede. I never thought of it that way and you know you're never completely wrong. You know everyone's right to some degree has some kernel of truth what they're saying usually so if it's like i never thought of it that way and that deepened my understanding and i've learned something and you can own that. I think it honestly shows a lot of intellectual humility and the smartest people are able to do that. You said you've changed your minds at our debates. It sounds from what you've just said that you're you're totally fine with that. Yeah i mean it's it's you know i mean i think i wouldn't say like i love it but i mean the debates is a safe they've space. I guess to change your mind you in the audience a publicly being debated. I imagine it's a lot harder but you know a sick. I i'm i'm talking about the audience at this point which where you're not on stage having to do and just for people who might be listening happening our debates. I just want to explain the way it works. Works is that we we have a stated proposition resolution. It's a statement and once side of two debaters to prove the statement is correct and the other side is is there to prove the statement is incorrect and we debate over three rounds for about an hour and a half but before the arguments have even begun and you've seen a bunch of times the audience votes to tell us where they stand on this resolution beforehand and then afterwards we have them vote a second time and we give victory to the team has the numbers have changed the most in percentage point terms so that that mechanism depends on people changing their minds and they do every single time so that's how we have a winner and and the loser in theory i i honestly actually don't think anybody who loses a debate has actually lost the debate because you know the the they've they've had an hour and a half to put their the ideas out there and to have them tested but i so i was bringing it to you as a member of the audience is changing your mind difficult or is it actually kind. You've kind of a thrill well. It's a thrill although i gotta be honest. I <hes> probably even changed my mind easier. I love the debates where i know absolutely nothing about the topic. <hes> and i'm a lot more easy. I mean even. I like to think that i'm open-minded. It's an economic question. I'm a lot harder to convince what are what are the other lessons from your your study of <hes> of the way we think about risk and the way to start thinking better about risk that relates to the quality of the discourse i were having let's for example bring emotion into it seems when you're talking about. Risk emotion should not be part of the part of the calculation. I uh i have that right well. It's hard not to i mean we have such strong feelings about loss and winning and i think we we worry about risk the most when we feel the most strongly about something we don't wanna lose <hes> i would like to live in a world where we make completely dispassionate risk assessments but you know that might not always be realistic by think that's an important knowledge is to have what do i feel comfortable with losing in what i think they can help you. Guide knowing which risks you feel comfortable taking and that's an essentially an emotional check-in. It's an emotional check in. I mean also i mean i often wonder if one of the reasons things have gotten more heated and we see more populism is that people are so emotional about the risks. We're facing. There's a lot of evidence that times of uncertainty in the middle ages usually around <hes> weather patterns that caused variable crops. There's a high correlation with those periods with more which trials and persecution of jews because you see a lot more persecute you see a lot more populism. We live uncertain times and we are living in uncertain times now. Certainly the economy's going through a big transition economists in n._y._u. Professor alison traeger. You're listening to a special episode presented by intelligence squared u._s. Debates and it's the second in our series that we're calling discourse disruptors. I listen trager is the author of the book. An economist walks into a brothel and other unexpected places places to understand risk. When we come back alison. We'll be telling me about how the lessons she learned in unexpected places including how economists and generals thought they had cracked the code on eliminating risk in wartime. I'm john donavan. This is intelligence squared u._s. I'm john donvan. Welcome back to intelligence squared u._s. My guest is alison schrager. She is an economist with a p._h._d. From in columbia university she's now teaching at new york. University schrager has consulted for the organization for economic cooperation and development and also for the international monetary fund. She's a co founder of the risk advisory firm life cycle finance partners. She's also a journalist at courts and author of the book and economist walks into a brothel and other unexpected places to understand risk before the break alison had told me in uncertain economic times populism and persecution tend to rise is there are a lot of reasons for uncertainty in the world today and here at intelligence squared u._s. We have debated many times on topics like artificial intelligence or the trade war with china or automation and the rise of the gig economy alison schrager also studied the industrial revolution and she draws some comparisons with these trends over one hundred fifty years ago. Men were the primary breadwinners. They were used to moving from job to job at the time. They did not work for one person day after day year after year. Which is now a reality that we've become nostalgic about. Losing as ellison told me it was at one time a real battle to get away from the gig economy although they didn't in court that it was it was hard. I mean it. It seems really ironic to me now that we associate that with this loss of masculinity that you don't have that job to go to because back in early industrial revolution it was humiliating for man to go somewhere and have some guy who wasn't even related to tell them what to do and where to be all day according to economic historian john walker is studied as he he tells me that universal education was largely became out because it was largely for social conditioning they were trying to break the will of all of these boys exactly exactly the same place every day to condition them to sit there and be told what to do because it took a generate a couple generations to even higher men initially factories hired women and children because they were more compliant but it took generations of breaking down men before they would be so compliant so now it's like. We're like oh well. You know you're not gonna have a factory job anymore. This is the end of men but really it could be just a return to the way men always wanted to work. I mean it's it's so interesting and what it says about how we frame things that we think are the way they are because they're meant to be the way they are especially. If they're directly in the rear view mirror yeah like <hes> nine to five jobs or or or or factory reliable safe factory jobs and again. I think what you're talking about. Your work goes to is the idea that we can have a lot of certain tease about things being being the way they are <hes> that are not based on anything more than your things like confirmation bias and <hes> assumptions that the that the president is like how the past was and all sorts of things like that yeah i mean we we prefer certainty and you know our minds wanna go there. <hes> i think embracing ambiguity really really is helpful. First of all it makes you more open to different points of view because the world doesn't have to be exactly as you're going to see you realize range of things could happen and also it helps you prepare hair and it can make you more open minded you can look at gig work is more of an opportunity than sort of longing for something that maybe people didn't love so much anyway. Do do you think to get back to the question of emotion. Does emotion have a place legitimate place in public discourse of issues of course some people really passionate about different issues news and they should be. I mean a lot of these issues really impact people's daily lives you can expect people not to be emotional about where their children go to school in the quality of education they're going to get can there be real information and emotion as well certainly <hes>. I think you know you wanna take a step back and you know try not have emotions. Drive your decision but you know there certainly certainly is information in that one of the places you also looked at was military decision making and and and you've said that that actually yielded a lot of useful information about getting along in life and also communicating with people so that was fascinating. I interviewed h._r. H._r. mcmaster right before he went to the trump administration. You know all the different chapters. I knew in events what the subjects would be didn't know what's the stories would be and i always knew the last chapter. Which is you know risks. You can't measure that uncertainty would be the military because they put so much energy into risk planning and they're never never go according to plan and i discovered there was these huge parallels between financial markets and military risk and that economists for years thought we'd cracked risk. We call it the great moderation. That policy was so good. We've never better recession again and around the same time the revolution in military affairs with the military thought. What are we have the answers. We have the technology that war is going to be so effectively very low risk and if there will be few casualties quick. You'll be clean. I think this largely he came from the first iraq war but both those assumptions turned out to be terribly wrong. I spoke to h._r. Who is well known for being being in the trump administration now but before that he was actually very well known risks scholar for saying no. You can't always measure risk. You can't always anticipate everything that could happen. So how do you deal with risks. You can't anticipate things you never thought and that honestly is all about humility. You know we all all want to feel like we can plan for every contingency but you have to do is hold onto that little bit of flexibility in no into abandon your plans when you need to you put a book out there that has a lot of contentious ideas a lot of daring and challenging ideas. Did you have the experience that people read your book and change their minds about things. I don't know you know one thing that i found surprising as so many people tell me the ideas are so basic <hes> really that was a seven year postdoctoral training nobel prizewinner. You think it's basic but <hes> <hes> i guess they didn't change their minds but for other people. I hope i did less the sense that you're trying to change minds and more trying to help yeah well. I think it's it's the policymaker in me. It's i don't feel like i want to tell people what to think until them how to think and how values and i don't think well. I don't know their values. I don't know their life experience. I just want to give them the tools to make better decisions that are best for them. So you mentioned in the beginning that one of the places you visited a kind of risk reduction conference for surfers who served the really the big waves now first of all tell us for those who aren't surface what they're really big. Waves are so a wave. That's more than thirty more than thirty feet and the biggest one i guess anyone's ever surface eighty feet the waves the size of a decide building so they're really dangerous very because if you get under one if you fall into one you can get stuck down there for to the point where you drown because you you can't get up because the water so deep. It's foot pushing you down. There's another big wave tremendous. Energy went away big right so you talk about how you equate this to insurance but that actually there was a movement in the way soon the big wave surfing community to create a kind of insurance against is that sort of outcome yeah and it's interesting <hes> so i they have these conferences regularly to discuss techniques and i met the guy who who is really passionate self-talk risk dollar named brian carolina who brought jet skis too big wave surfing which are effectively insurance in that if you wipe wipe out the jetskis there to rescue you but then what's interesting and i get into this in the book is anything that can be used to reduce risk and also be used to enhance risk and jet skis are also used that way and that you can can use them to rescue you if you wipe out but you can also use them to push you on a bigger wave so now you know before jet skis. It was incomprehensible. Someone could serve an eighty foot wave. Now you can have a jet ski. Push you on one and no you can take even bigger risks than before and houses like insurance. Insurance is anything that pays off when a certain outcome. I'm happens so a jet ski rescues you. If you wipe out so in that sense it is insurance we can't we can't have insurance about having civil conversation precision can we. I mean it's a different animal. It is because i think people here right people fear being wrong. They fear that humiliation i mean i was really lucky in one good thing about doing a p._h._d. Program when you're in your twenties his your worst fear happens all the time. I think once a day you're in a group situation. Someone tells you you're wrong and you kind of get a thick skin but i think it's hard for other people. I mean it's still hard for me. I'm not gonna gonna lie anyway. I experienced a lot. I think especially now people get so invested in forms and identity around their views that ah being called out and being wrong feels all the more infuriating how does having an appreciation for an a tolerance of them beauity ameliorate that does it it does because you realize you don't know the answers. A lot of different things could happen. I remember when i was taking russian class like twenty years ago. <hes> <hes> there were a lot of people who had never studied language and they were very uncomfortable with it and the teacher basically said you're going to be thrown into situations. No matter how good you you're where you're not going to be especially in the early years because it's years really to get a language you're. You're not really going to be sure that you completely understand what the other person is saying saying but you're going to have to make a pretty good guests and you're going to have to convince yourself that. Your guest is good so that you can move the conversation forward and if you're wrong wrong they'll let you know but if your guess is right then the conversation can happen even with ambiguity you can move forward. I i found that such a useful lesson and that emboldened me to go out to moscow as correspondent for a._b._c. and just blow just blow bladder and bladder and bladder and have the conversations is that i could have an and the russians were incredibly generous about badly spoken russian i found and would correct me but for the most part they would play along with me because for the most part aren't eighty percent of the time i was having a functional conversation with them so so a tolerance for ambiguity really can dan i think you're saying this be a positive just for communication just forgetting things back and forth even though it would seem the opposite that a lack of precision would be a problem yeah exactly i mean i'm curious other people in the class whereas open to taking that on no yeah see that's the problem but when you when you are open andy judy you also open to the fact that you don't know all the facts that there are things. You don't know that you don't know the future and you know it depending on how you approach a problem there could be a lot of different solutions and humility probably helps in that and that's what <hes> would help with the card player was telling. Who also isn't he yeah well. He seeks it out because it's not natural for him. Well allison traeger again. Your book is called an economist walks into a brothel and there are a lot more stories in it that have a lot more to do with this whole question of risk ambiguity the way we talk talk to each other the way we think and the way we can get rational about things that seem irrational to us alison trigger. Thanks so much for joining us. It's a pleasure. This interview was recorded at carnegie. Recording studio by leszek bucci to learn more about intelligence squared u._s. or to hear more of the discourse disruptor. The series visit us online at i._q. To u._s. dot org that's i._q. 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You know people also outside of you. So with sap but like how are you living in a cargo and like I couldn't do you can't stand up every will cannot understand. Anybody does long term time in a vehicle where they can't stand up rather it's longer in. The mind cause cargo vans mcmurray my minivan or Are there's a lot of people can't comprehend that So I think we just all. If you want the life, you adjust to the access point that you have to it. That makes any sense I don't know if they. It doesn't make a lot of sense and I, actually there's also the flip side of that I've gotten and so I'm sure you've gotten a lot I. Wish I could live in abandoning do what you're doing? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I kinda weird thing like I couldn't do that and I. Wish I could do that at the same time. So it's kind of weird. Speaking, speaking a weird shutout shot after chrome because we're we're we're both Weirdos over there. I think it's I think it's a Weirdo not just. people palm but the channels because there's there's a super produced videos again, made for like by day two td and all that kind of stuff, and then there's real van channel. So it's Kinda funny. To to have them call the Weirdos in the first place. Yeah So. I know part of why you're doing what you're doing is because. You like to work in theater and do theatrical stuff. So. What, what was it that? Made that spark in your mind realizing that if you lived in your vehicle, you could have more opportunity to chase white your. What's your dream is I mean I think. Again. Like isn't the first time I had thought when I was back in Maryland I I had the classy. Recently but also like since I've graduated college, I haven't really had like a settled like home like I graduated college I started a internship in Virginia. So immediately, I wasn't going that are but I was leaving state and then came to like looking for work again when I was in Maryland, there weren't a lot of opportunities that were lake well, paying theater, a lot of entertainment industry's lake. They're very low pay to start in energy move up through chain. You might be one of those people like anything else that that gets to you know make a lot of money for every working actor out there who has like a mansion there's like. Thirty working actors struggling like pay the rent every month because maybe they've been on a couple of shows here and there but they're also working at starbucks you know. And that's just the way those contracts go you know you have this awesome contract you're working and you feeling legitimate and then that contract ends nothing comes right after it. You're like, well, I need money. So you go do some little side in the back into it. But at the same time like the ability. To save yes. Is increased when you can just drop it in go. At I've been in situations where it's like, okay I'm living in this situation, but in order to take this opportunity. To California in the first place, I was in Maryland I was working at a college that was about to end. They were changing job description. I could've applied for that and I'd also applied for this other thing in anticipation of that job ending and I got to thinking California. In literally meant dropping my whole life in. Maryland. In going to California at the time I had a roommate. Luckily, she had a partner. So her partner was just move into the apartment. A you know it wasn't like I was GonNa leave her like holding the accidents of me. Financially. Came across the country. Because all work out but. It's always sort of been the reality of that job that I'm not gonNA. Have a job we're going Well, I could have, but I didn't want it. You know it's. Like stability allows for the job of course, fantasy dawn wanted you know the fancy band that looks like a micro apartment? Your. Winner with the with the three thousand watts of on the top. Ville. You can run your microwave popcorn while you're sitting there editing your videos. Yeah. Maybe had the class seat before like I knew it needed to be something that could park on city streets. So the idea was of getting an RV was already by the time, reach that stage was already out of my head and it was such a collective like long string of events. Including the fact that I was just in a bad roommate situation that I had to get out of when are just flat out just decided just move into the car things that sort of went away and came back overtime where I was like. I'm just committed this situation I'm in it also like I was the in debt In I I had I was indebted for credit cards when I. and now I, only have two two or paid off. Glad. I'm living a place that I own I, don't give a crap minivan own. You know my place into the four credit cards that started. A. Indebted to now. Gone. So like it's a combination of so many things that just worked out in I've always wanted to travel. and. Like looking in the van when there's like nothing going on I'm like well unless I have like, Oh, I have to be worked. In if I just WANNA go somewhere, I can just go my whole house is coming with me. You I don't think too much violate. If I want to go hang out somewhere near a beach for the whole weekend. I'm not like leaving home leaving the responsibilities at home because the house is GonNa, go. For or here there, and you get tired and you're like, oh, man, I gotta drive home not just GonNa walk outside I'll go to. So wh what is your favorite like since you started you like what are some things that has happened that? Have made you like really excited to. Are Start to realize, hey, I'm a youtube or now kind of you on top of doing the thing that I'm doing. Well. It's win I started I didn't think of. As a youtuber. It was more I wanted to be you know sort of that other side where people you know people Tennessee the. Fancy travel channels as you know youtubers. Live in their van in work as homeless and it was more I wanted to like be another image against that image. So I didn't start like thinking of myself as a Youtuber And then people started watching my channel. Most excited day was the day I had a hundred subscribers which in Youtube. Nothing. Chelsea. Hundred people watching channel. Why don't? I think it changes your mindset 'cause I said that too I mean I'm all set a year. I'm two days away from year. So cool. The timing of you coming on everything and it'll be two thousand but I put a video when I hit a hundred because I couldn't believe that hit hundred and I think it changes your mind set to go okay well I'm at least entertaining enough for one hundred people so there must be something to it. and. It's funny like in Youtube were world or just social media world the general leg a hundred can feel like nothing because you have people out there like you know whatever case inscribed thirty K. forty cases two hundred K.. Hundred K's when you get your lucky to button up. But The thing is when you think about a hundred people in room that a hundred people had subscribed to you even at your even if they haven't subscribed like you're getting hundred plus reviews like one, hundred people in a room is a lot of people were listening to you. or interested in you when he would you have to say or people that you're reaching. annualize like that's a lot excuse me presented. I can recall in school I. Mean I know I'm probably not the only one but your your do you ever remember being scared to read in front of your class or talking for near class and that was maybe Max maybe forty people. So like you're saying when you get a hundred people from skype to you, you're already talking in front of the bigger amount of people than you did in class in school. Those crazy to think about. How do you? How do you deal with because? With with that how do you feel? And keep an even kill with people that are are negative towards your channel or or leave negative comments. Well if it's annoyingly honestly deleted. I have no problem with legitimate criticism like I got some feedback on video the other day about my lighting and that was totally legitimate criticism early good information but I could barely see you. In that wasn't being like mean-spirited but honestly, it was mean-spirited I've just delete it I. don't leave it in my energy like there's nothing wrong with like a legitimate like channel criticism like, Hey, you're sound was kind of bad. You know would help. You better. Oh, you're lighting was like those are like. People. Don't like those like they don't want to hear that He. Yeah. I I think that's that's helpful. The people least people that want to try to be better like sometimes I don't know something. So you say something like Oh, Hey I'll try to watch out for the next. Hey got a bunch more people come in and high bluewave I everybody. This is this is Don van life Please check our channel cheese in a minivan season. You guys a lot of these guys that are in here have. Them even in this community had like new Mars and stuff like that. So they see me living in the cargo like I was saying, Oh man and then you gotta be Kinda tight for what I want to do there. They look at me like I'm not so seeing you. Probably. Really. Really will their mind A future part of my existence, I wouldn't mind like. Having like if I had like land in, could have like the RV in the van and switch them out. You know depending on situation like if I'm going wild camping and I am a small RV, that would be awesome. Every standing up at Mike says, we'll kitchen in all of those things but also than like when I need to be in the city when I need to travel in the city likes which out to the smaller like a van like I think that we are vacant right now it's like for monetary reasons of most of my income still comes from regular import climate. I'm not even right now I feel so not legitimate because much sitting in this. Apartment that. Tackle leave on June first state, hit your your video, your video yesterday showed you show you packing up the vehicle. And you're saying that was a twin size Sheet for your your bed there. But I saw how far around that it that it went and I was like you I put a twin sized bed in here and I still got plenty of room. But that that's a small enough bed for me and I saw how much that she went around there and I was like man I. Know You're happy like you were saying earlier you're happy to have a bed. So that's that's like you're saying smaller that you start out. The more you upgrade the more appreciative. You are of the extra space extra every little everything that you get. We'll also like honestly I'm five what am I, foot four some not bad tall the bed to. which is a small version of one of the Coleman Camping cots is like a five foot seven. Leaving stretched out the sides are a little short but honestly, I sleep curl up sleeping bag anyway. and even before way back in old life, I had been in an apartment where Clinton afford a bed and I was on a camping hot. So. Even in light standard housing, it's left when a with. It's just it's not that big of a deal. Right right. No I look I. I lived in I lived in a truck for years. I tried to tell people other than being a stand up in here. I. Actually have more room in here than I do semi truck. Yes. How elated out and everything so. And I can always buy one of those van conversion bubbles in cut the top off and put it on. So it's not that not that big a deal but what? So we all started with with one since right right everybody starts with one subscriber. So what what motivated you to start sharing your life? On Youtube, in the first place like why did you decide to start doing? Honestly was acid is one of my super early videos It was a competent Read it. which was Um somebody said. In this is actually a person is speaking to a larger. Lake Rv van community they were like was anybody ever gotten a van just like state where they are but lived in the van and there was a comment that said that's just homelessness. and. I was annoyed by that comment on the original comments but at. That was motivation at. Other channels on Youtube, where people? Were doing like you know day living in a you know living in a vehicle while doing a regular job you know not necessarily doing big travel and just doing it for the financial you know. Need of needing to live. Cheaper There's a lot of college students that do it at even this mom in son in their story was a little more sad I, met this mom in son and she had come. Year they were Asian because her son got into college. He was divorced from her husband. He had been the way earner and for some reason or Sunday get into the. Warmth and so they had to live out a vehicle. Now they were desperate to get out of this situation at hope they did I didn't retain a relationship with them are met them in passing when I was seeking out some resources. And you know, yes, there's SORTA homeless but it's such a simplified version because when people say that they're talking about vagrants. Are this very negative stain on 'em. Maybe. Not Their own free will but they're saying very negative thing. They're saying it. I didn't think that was fair that sort of my motivation to make sort of my first video. I mean also I I was at studied theater in film. In College like what did I? In College until I've done. Some Some video stuff before and I didn't watching chrome spanner. And extensive inspired me to sort of WanNa play with the camera again. and. So I started doing that as well like two motivations one to open up that other image into just to play with the camera again I would like honestly myself not to be the subject. To find always willing if you're willing to. So What has been Up to this point anyway the. Best Interaction that you've had with one of your subscribers like one that you remember the nose like touchy the most events. There's two and couldn't pick what's between. Them. And the first one was I needed by? Time built in water pump done and I definitely do not have the money that has shop wanted to do it in one of the shops I called they actually about the mileage in years my van when I told them they were like you should just buy New van and in my head I was like I'm glad you could just do the Ed legs for you. I'd say out loud but that was what I was thinking and. I talked about it on Youtube? Another great thing about Youtube is suddenly you have all these people, you don't have any other way to reach people like if you're not meeting of a vehicle dwellers just on a daily basis like having a youtube channel you in contact with all these other people somebody not far from me was like I know mechanic he's good dude loves working oil is she hooked me up with this guy he was like so much less than the shop. He charged me a little bit for his work, but it wasn't like an hourly rate you get into the shop Do. You know what? My whose house showed me what was going on even showed me something that firestone hadn't shown me when they check on. and it was a part of ended up needing to replace. Know. You'll have the money right now but also this keep attention to that nine Doug is so much and so like that was that was just talking in Susan. Actually, she picked me up so that had similar to be while he was working van immune ended up just hanging out. With being worked on. So that was really nice and she was really wonderful and she gives me a liar of great feedback about my channel. The yet I think she made me take it a little more seriously than had been. Up to that point because it was just something I was kind of doing as a hobby and then the. Other thing that was it was you. So you're to me it was like the weirdest thing that ever happened I was delivering Uber Eats. When I need some change, I'll do a GIG economy delivery jobs as I was doing reads and I just picked up food and I was pulling out the shopping centre. As. I was waiting to accident make a turn in this woman drives in shows the windows was like. So we. Regular Person. Overeat to make money. So somebody saying I know you I wash your time you're holding somebody's bag a bag of burgers. Got Gone. Yeah that's. That's that's the kind of moments that you know. I'm just waiting for because it will be exciting to experience because. I know like. Honestly you're one of the first free people to say to say, yes to interviews. So that helped me along just be like, okay I have a good idea. I have. You know a good thing on here and they gave me the confidence to go ask more people so I do appreciate that a lot. Because It's crazy places and I hope I hope and one of the reason we're doing it on here by the way is your hanging back in. California because I was GONNA head down to Oregon but. We found a way to make this work. So I really appreciate you being here and It's You know. Just, watching your channel and and other people's can't all that don't have. Be. Sixty thousand eight thousand dollars, sprinter made me go well, my friends got cargo van out back. I can buy it get around and all that kind of stuff and then go work this out because I'm really passionate about. Flying Stories, sharing stories, and doing all film stuff. For me. And I've already done truck grabbing I know how to live on the road. Wheel on twelve. Oh, I didn't even really have inverted back when I was doing it. So I know outta their twelve over ironbound about but So. It's just. I I like her now people three quick yours and. What? Would you say to somebody 'cause? I said, can I interview my sister I said we all secular start first videos just suck. You've got you gotta keep doing it until you get better but we all second the beginning so When Mike Just to give people an idea where you are now. Win was you started your channel like how how long ago was? Limited because I started the channel. Reporting for the channel I hadn't started while I was in the car. So it's not quite to two years on. So like you know been a little a year and a half first of all, don't stop asking Obviously done a couple of videos with other youtubers but there's probably been at least five like knows or no answer I'll mix those together. We will don't answering. There's people say, Hey, you know I don't have time or they say in the ultimately doesn't work out so don't stop asking But Yeah. So I think honestly RTR helped I went to art Yar in twenty eight days. was. One thousand nine. Hundred Twenty Nineteen January twenty nineteen. Because when there were a lot of youtubers there, and honestly some stuff is just like getting is that with C. You otherwise to know that you're out there youtube on its own is making much A. Is like this the of trying to get you to recommend you to New People, and that's how you get the new subscribers. Great people that you capture like just through the natural stream, the lake. Did a video curious currently, for example, and then she did a video with knee and that sort of relationships that lasted. Met You know I. You know was randomly in like somebody's video in enough that people got curious in with lake trick low over hopefully some of them stayed was interesting. So who is that I tend to be gate? How much I use other social media because I know I get stressed out and can't keep up with it. Some people are really good about having youtube in a facebook and twitter and an instagram. At other thing who knows a tick tock in an almost thing I it cross dreamlike bet by brain would like explode out by A. Certain videos that you are post to facebook. The. I think also like my first first couple of videos idea that maybe did it from my first few videos 'cause not everybody's GonNa Click on it but if three will do three people have got just naturally you. It's like done all those little things I have not done them. Consistently I do not watch the algorithm like a shark because I've seen people get frustrated with that. They're like can videos every day Walli wiseman revenue sucking. Has Something to get. And a Lotta Times Youtube doesn't have anything against you. They're just promoting the content that's most attractive. Their advertisers is legit a journey to become that content whatever opportunities are available you I think. Are Great in general in my case, it was RTR because it does. Exposure to a community in person. I did. Mostly because of chrome I did eventually business cards because I would in a seven eleven one time in open Outta my van in this couple was sitting in their car in the scattered. All these questions. And Also. Telling him fulltime. I just told him everything and it's like he wasn't disgusted like interested in he wanted to know. It's not reached in the band pulled out of business. Only. Did it because chrome do it? All carry will that's the way to like grab a couple of people in random knows just bunch of rain in stop but mostly like action celts will you can deal with without feeling like you're going to crazy like if I had to like tweet every day and the perfect instant picture and also do youtube videos and also keep up with. All those things that drive me crazy those like this point of the Osbournes they you know what? I never have. Twenty thousand subscribers. I'm still gonNA put distress or myself. Over the Youtube Channel because also I think like that infects your soul in a infected pack type person you are when you are on camera and you are the subject of this thing. When you're talking about when these people get assessed if bleeds over into their videos and we know what I've noticed, 'cause I started. When I turned a corner with my videos is I started watching them as I would've you're do I give work when I'm editing it do I get bored watching. It will do why am I putting it out there to somebody else going to get bored watching it. And then. And then also Just. When they bring all. Well, it doesn't get as many views. It doesn't get that many of us. Most of the people that watch this don't care. They're watching to see what you're doing for the day or what you're doing. They don't care if you're not getting a bunch of us and so I think the negativity because I've noticed on my channel the more positive I've been the more people come in and hang out here like my at my people that come wash livestream mostly other channels. So I know I'm doing something right if our channels are going to spend their time watching what I'm doing so. That's an and like you were saying that one was there anybody else that came along that made you feel like you had a talent for doing youtube for for doing this stuff on camera besides that one lady that you talked about 'cause I I, had somebody do that for me it made me go. Okay. Actually I a bit of talent this. In I think it probably friends who don't watch my channel regularly. Devos's out This is my friend Kira A. Name she'll be. Like she she did not agree with me moving into a mini. She thought I was crazy She tried to talk me out of it. She's been at least like a year trying to talk me out of it now it's just like, oh, it's just your life I don't care but right from the beginning she was like You really have something on camera. You really likeable on camera and I was just like full crap. And then also I'll get these random comments on my videos out of nowhere excuse me. I'm having an allergy issue. Number one in the Midwest. Yeah and so late, the fact that she had. Positive things to say about things she didn't agree with as far as my lifestyle. was really motivating So yeah, that-that's felt good I have like a couple of friends who you're actually actually really liked nice care for him. You know you have like this great energy in that and that's what? PD BACK is. And Felt really good. I don't know. You know you're always your own worst critic I. Don't know I've ever felt I was good at it. I don't think you're honestly working at WanNa try to get better all the time I don't think you'll ever be happy with yourself. This hearing from people that it's like at least decent enough to watch where you're like. Okay. At least I don't feel like such dirt for making putting it out there. In. You know it's an improvement also like I can't see any improvement Own like Pestle just understanding Youtube. Even if his leg sometimes I used to put like four subjects in video. When I realized that was confusing people wanted to know what video they were watching especially at the beginning when they don't know you. They're like, what information do you have for me because most people don't seek out like dude fine personalities you like and get attached to him. Watch worth watching the first time they're like, what information do you have for me that I can't get from the thirty thousand other youtubers out there So leg. If you focus your content like, Hey, I'm GonNa talk about like this slight power bank I like it and I wasn't Giving it. Yeah. And I wasn't giving it for free like I. Put my money on this. So I'm going to tell you the truth. You know type thing. If anybody wants to give up the now. Let me stay. You know starting to do videos that were more focused in most specific. Something, I earlier and every once in a while I do that the deal is just for me where might you not whatever? Like I wanna I'm GONNA talk about video when she'd be the audience those people are GonNa come see almost anything you do. Look. There's like a book review channel I watch and she just review. There's a new book in the Hunger Games series As she reviewed it in, there is literally somebody in your comments section in per comments section that said. You know like you watch this review, I've never read anything in the hunger games series in select that. Over time. Realizing those things that are valuable people and it's not even just trying to get subscribers like, okay. What's valuable to people that we can come to me for work and I think that part also was journey Because I don't really feel like, I, know stuff. But then like I did the video recently about how to get male less a nomad and I realized how many things people don't know that it's just out there as far as we used to get mail and packages the fact that mail and packages separate. Comes from you know the polk guy comes from ups Fedex concerns, ups if it's not, you know the Polka Burgers in like people realize that stuff. And even realize I honestly information appeal boxes because have appeal walk. So late you know. Was this. Right. Of the people even. The most like well-versed person on the subject. It's surprising is I think somebody else said it before wha, what is surprising? What you don't know that you know by because because you just take around you have this knowledge, but there's so there's so much knowledge in the world that there's people that studies of melts their whole life that don't know how to plug in a toaster. Put out there you like that. I can finally fix my own sink. Hard but but they didn't they don't learn that stuff until. You were a truck driver like you knew about twelve volt like you know there was a whole world of electricity opened up some me who live out of car. It's as learn and it's and. And I think that's been the greatest thing about to is you're able to find something and then you're able to find cool people because I don't know if I saw you. On a video that krone good. A suggested video around the same time that I found him but. It was. I, think it was something about doing something in your van and I watched you and. Anyway. That I watched that I like their their personality comes out or whatever they're doing also try to them because. Even, if they're content isn't. By your conscience good. But even if they're content, isn't good yet. I. WanNa see where where they go with because it's they're an interesting person to follow. Skin and so. Like I've met. I don't. I don't know about you. I have as many friends in real life as I do now that I've started a youtube channel like all the people that come in here every morning like you probably know Justin Christina's. are relent down probably see never around before. You know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they come in here and work we we have a community where we all come in and so for me I've been doing the almost year allow these are people I've seen they've made it to where they're getting mind ties and they're getting that level and so. I think it's really important to people that if you're really passionate about doing this is something you WanNa do is just GonNa take time as not gonNA I. Mean Some some people get lucky and happen overnight but at actually better but it takes a little time because then by the time people see your stuff, you actually have stuff that you don't go ooh I can't believe I put that video out no go. Hey, you WANNA see my video like riders went out at different feeling than when you first start up. And I think like you know. Sometimes you also get one lake really big hit video. I think I think I heard. Referred to him chrome save recently like his one day. Van Build. Still his mother hits. Back. Huge like that was one of my favorite videos that really got me like Kinda permanently into. which is funny because van looks nothing like that now ing like. Plastic bins and he built this really simple bad and like he was off like. That has been my motivation from the beginning because invest exactly what I did when I got a minivan rip overseas out, I put on a truck and they went away. I have no idea what happened to those seats I will never see him again. Blessing billions in a camping cat in. Like simplistic drawers from target. None of those things are in my vein now, not one of, but it was a way to start but also like to put out a video like that we're this is how I am. I think it's also. Important and yeah the quality of that video is different but the. Of the journey. So this nascent same. and. And that sort of what's important because once we'll meet, you will also want to know who you were in. There are people who go back and watch those videos that'll also help your channel because if they catch you on Video Stephanie Five in there like okay. Now I'm curious and they go back and watch one, hundred, seventy four. That's still view count L. was do it we upload the video and then we're like, okay. But. I never went out every day because now need to see a new one every day. So I, don't. I don't get stuck on the numbers from the last one and like. New. Law. But yeah. Everybody does and I have because I love to watch I. Love to watch the comments come in and answer them when they come in because because. In all honesty the views are cool. But just interaction that yeah with people, I think is the coolest part part of Youtube. I think it makes it better than any other video medium because you can if the Creator decided to you because there's creators don't I mean there's greater that don't they've sent out editing and everything now and all that kind of stuff but there is some creators have million people. That still answer comments and I think that's the coolest part of Youtube is just interaction with the people and just disappear people that you meet because there's people that are in here. I would probably never met in my whole there's probably people that you've talked to that you might have. Never, never even met never said I to in your whole life. It's been kind of cool to me and all that kind of stuff. Yeah absolutely Seo comment by Liberty. Yes I live. I was. Out like us? Yes. Do live in my minivan is my house do a quick summary and why I'm sitting in this apartment right now no. I came to Oregon before cove in nineteen to start a job at Oregon Shakespeare Festival? Going to be a what's noted the production assistant, which is basically, I was the assistant to the assistant stage manager. It was a really big job and it would have allowed me to get into the Union I've still gotten some points to get into the Union. Thankfully, this still produce them appoints. Once they started shutting down things for in nineteen they told us we could stay in employee housing until June I if we needed to. Being. Given this opportunity I've used that opportunity to make a lot of changes in tweets to my ban. So if you go to my channel, the Donovan Life you will see the I've been upgrading changing the van on June. I will technically the last day May I'll be leaving here. So this is a temporary work housing that was provided by Oregon Shakespeare Festival because I was down here to give you a job for them I've worked for three days and then shutdown started. I was opposed the leading the actually on April nineteenth for another job back in The bay area, which also just cancelled I just didn't do the job And so. Asked here past April into a June because I honestly didn't know going on in California a lot of the news media was confusing. To, extent, and so if I had the opportunity to stay put work on the bayonet decided to stay put more demand in. So I'm in this this workhouse until June first but I still live in the end it's so my old time House that I'm moving back in and have been preparing the move back into. Sorry. Oh what what's one mistake? As as you've grown that people as they grow. You think that they should avoid that. You wish you avoided when you were as you were progressing up to where you're at now. In Van Nuys. Obama in my life or on Youtube. In Van Nuys specifically at, there's a lot of things I bought to get by which I understand when you don't have a lot of money like understanding not having a lot of money. So you can't buy like three, hundred, watt solar and couple of batteries in charge you had no idea how to. When just for an example, I bought a really at what the cheapest power station I could find on. Amazon. Just, because I was like, well, how am I gonNA keep my phone charge with it's not plugged in. It was like probably one of the biggest waste of money that I that I spent got smaller power banks just to keep my laptop in my own. Were those plug in twelve orders to keep my laptop bone charge in that would have got me by with I was like so desperate for this larger solution that ended up being a waste of money if you can at least go mid line I, think like that's better. If you can just make that little bit of extra effort, you don't have to go tap in but if you. Don't get the cheapest thing you can find in the power station is just an example of that because eventually yet it will just become wasted money you could have dedicated to something. A little bit better. I really wish I just bought started buying pieces earlier. Like even just bought. Adm Battery a nice one not the cheapest online and put it in the band not hooked up to anything just float around with means line for the rest of it. I think he would have been a better investment, the buying the cheapest power station that are. Can Get. So? I would be very very. Unthinking meeting something right away. But one of the things that there's a lot of things at what you just think. In the long term, it was just an accumulation of a waste of money. Finding ladies to like keep things affordable. But not on the vision of getting several just some cheap snack workout I think is. Earning. But also like you know if you're just getting it because it's cheap in that position against a deal and you're like, okay wake for you, you got a cargo van that you knew you could fix up. You Wyatt cargo van because cheap, but you really have no idea how to fix up van how confident are you that? It's just not gonNA become like thousands of dollars you've wasted over. Time that you need to be on the road. Now you have it's just reasonably assess where you're spending money especially when you don't have a lot of it. Because people achieve bans fine because they have the mechanical knowledge to work on it. But if there's somebody, you can get something a little more mechanically sound like for me I have a light mechanical limitations when it comes to working under the Hood I've learned a little bit more along the way, but I knew like mechanical sustainability. Needed to be higher priority even more. So than sides are being a big, that was my friend coordinated this. She got a big thing that kept breaking down on her, and then she ended up getting a low roof van that was newer. Is that was another advantage of my minivan like I had a lot of faith in Toyota it was in good condition I kinda overpaid for it and I would admit that to my dying day. But needed that mechanical security I don't even know I feel like at overpaid for it because I know a little bit more about minivan prices I don't really regret it because. It's lasted me go years now without a lot of trouble beyond like normal stuff that should happen because it's a car. But. Like the power station was a complete waste of money. It was money actual way. There are other ways I kept my devices charged and use that money toward a better power solution get at the time I don't know if any of that. Image. And they and they sense that I'm looking at all I'm looking at all the different things at the same time. So I understand exactly what you're saying. because. I'm trying I'm trying to build mine cheaply I mean I only have one hundred watt solar panel but I figure if I have that battery I, know I know all the twelve theft and That's one. That's one place. If you guys want trouble accessories when you're on the road, go to a truck stop. Air. Travel successor. More than you could even imagine her veil there. So what has been your favorite? Place that you've been since you've been. Cut since you started back in Maryland. Maryland I was a I was living in lake standard housing but when I came to. California Really. Honestly like Ashland is gorgeous. League I really love being Oregon. It's a it's a gorgeous place plan to do you know themselves adventuring on that way out? Even though but like it's like. You know. A lot of time in in van in RBM, the all those conversations we tend to operate in these two extremes, which is like New York City and like the of nowhere. And like there's so much in between those two extremes, it's wise like small town Al Wounds in. Smaller cities versus largest knitting news You know this is where you're kind of close to. You know a more. Nature Environment which aren't necessarily you know out in the middle of nowhere and so I've really liked these little small towns where it's like you can probably get to a seven eleven really really easy but also way there's these gorgeous like scenic. There's also these gorgeous scene Gary is that you can find. base that middle racist like really great for me at Ashland, is sort of like an ideal representation of that where they have like this little there's little small town shop, but it's not hard to get to a Walmart. Seven eleven can walk to But there's also lithium park which has really gorgeous hikes in has reached. Its is is beautiful in the astronaut has been really really need. Great on one method places that had been I didn't end up doing the job I was here to do. But still it was a lovely opportunity for like a year year. Old check like but I was there for like not. Yeah. Canada's Kendra. Unique that's for sure but the thing that you're at. When I was in high school because I went to high school around here the High School, teacher? That was his that was his game. Every year was to go down there to the the Shakespeare's. Cecil was down there 'cause I guess don't. Now. Now I may be wrong but don't they don't they do the whole dress up and everything and all that kind of stuff when they do the. Festival there. They dressed in period clothing and all that kind of stuff. Most of the theater most of the. Shows there was nobody dressed up. I'm sure there vincent things that happened I mean, it's not like A. thinking. Results. Renaissance area so They're. In. A Lotta ways was is just a theater that's based around the tradition of a festival. Ensured probably stuff happens the adding get to experience the whole festival but it's not a festival in like the traditional sense of the. Refill like you though. Yeah but it's like, I, like festival things that happen but like every audience I was with they were just regular theatergoers You, there's always these new ways you like interpret also not aware shows a shakespeare abuse like non Shakespeare shows like Peter, at a star Catcher was one of the shows that were up before it closed. Other show at saw that was about it's very An orphan. And that was be like tossed around in Jews place with his family and because of their religious beliefs they. So they don't only do Shakespeare that's their tradition, but they also do other plays in both of the place to work on neither one Shakespeare. while I was. A. Very interesting to learn that because. They they would mark doubt. They'd probably get more people. You just hear the Shakespeare Festival and you're like well. I read it in school I wasn't too impressed. Now, I like the movies that have been based on the books since then you know what I mean or the place, but just the plays themselves like I don't know if I want to hear that I had a hard enough time interpreting it and and English class in high school. Play you're supposed to latch it not. True. Hamlet N whatever fight that it uses. To actually stay after well choreographed fights me. In this tax is like am be fight a win. That's all Shakespeare wrote you does not which is what you should do as a as a theatrical writer is different from you know their plays are different from books like books are read. You know imagine while you're reading it. Or your director put a picture on the stage. At it like. In college either I like it much better watching it, and if you don't catch all the words evening catchy idea of the story but I think. At natural will people know that a lot of companies? The reason why companies start with Shakespeare's because he's free. Start. You Shakespeare. For free. You can change him and then as you start to gain money as a company analyst has reached that weight because they use union actors. In stuff, then you can start you explore the words that you can afford to pay for but Shakespeare free. That's why a lot of companies start with it and. He'd have pain chrome was break. It was a really crowded event. Cruises is easy. You could tell him big camera but oh, my God cruises. You, that is a big down. May. muskie dog I. Guess Not really big 'cause he's tall. He's he's a little short bulldog but doesn't wild. Cutie but the event was very very crowded. There were a lot of people. Chrome was really nice but I didn't really get a lot of time with them. I have a lot of regrets. That I think it there earlier get to spend more time with him but he was really nice really hospitable. You know try to make time for everybody he's really great i. Hope I could beat him again. And Gina, we we knew a thing here because we. All came together as community and try that. Time. So we all don't step by doing lies and she's actually going to be live right after this season with there being live on Mondays Raptor my show. So after after we're done here a couple minutes please. Go to genus jet and Go hang out hang out there for a little bit. But What. What would you say to somebody out there? WHO. Is. Feels like. All, the uploading they're doing isn't getting anywhere like any of these guys in here are feeling a bad about where they're at right now. What would you tell To keep them going like say. what advice would you give? at the end of the day like do for you. You can go crazy trying to do it for other people that doesn't mean don't try to improve. So the look at the kind of things that like people onto. Actress Know How you can change your content to meet those needs but don't pay to person. You aren't like if I had to be the madness I'm never going to be the madness. You know if I try to be you know chrome I'm never going to be chrome I, don't have that background he has is a DJ in like you sorta understands music in a way I think he underestimates like I'm Never GonNa be element Van Life I. Think Edits are gorgeous I like love watching his videos. But I'm not him. So it's like are there things that learned from his technique that might improve mine but I shouldn't get obsessed over being held in as. Always ex yourself what's true to you? If, you try to be somebody else you're gonNA fail anyway because you'll never be them or you'll be a pale imitation of them. So. Always bringing back to yourself why you're doing it any narrow. Honestly if I'd never gotten a big channel, I'd still be doing youtube you know so I really consider myself big. I'm not even. Take. But if I'd never got when I am now I wouldn't have stopped doing youtube. I was excited when one hundred subscribers in that was always enough of a reason to keep going. Well thank you for being here. I really appreciate it check out the Donavan life over on her youtube channel and watch her watcher journey and hopefully I'll talk with you get into the future. Don. Thank you. And I've got one more guest three guys. it's. I got one one more guest I got in at the last minute. I. saw you. Yeah. I I. Well no I mean I I mean as far as being able to get you scheduled in It happened just recently this is a bad Andy Art. is that right yes? Sir. I saw him on Gary V's livestream. And is wanted to talk to you bring you in because. I want to ask you about which I know you. You were asking, what should I set the floor of my My painting level out you know what you were telling your paintings for I wanNa know what went change in your mind of my arts worst something and I want to having I consult for some money like. Winded that top process change in your head. So you know what I mean especially considering as when I talked to on a Gerry's. When I talked on with Gary v that you know going through the that the education of you know I mean getting a masters that even even that kind of like establishes you kind of like with. Essentially like what what would be like a floor value of where I? I always charged by price like I'm not one of those guys that likes to. Think about not mean time and materials and a moat or like you know what I mean like some people are like, well, the Inspir- early like all these other like extra factors on what would go into a piece verses I, I like as far as like if we're coming just the brass tacks of it of. Putting a monetary value on a piece of work I'm like I like having a straightforward formula of the painting is This is and you know what I mean that I then charge. X.. By Square inch you know what? I mean So when my first painting sold out of my out of my graduate thesis show for four grand as I talked on Gary v like that, you know what I mean that that's kind of your established market value. I mean it sold out of Boston. So it's it's hard to you can't really go back. So with that, it's it kind like would slow hypothetically like if I were to drop price, I might be selling more paintings what it's also that now with an established market value in, you know what I mean it's it's it doesn't serve your it doesn't serve like new collectors that I mean you have you're trying to then lower your your market value. So. You had you had to basically set the price in your head and see if the market would bear bear that before you. Before. You went to market with it in the first place. Yeah so I mean Gary Talks about it all the time as as far as like you know what I mean the market dictates what you what I mean what what anything is worth not essentially like what you think is worth. So you know you could you could essentially try in like. Price. Something at like ten grand or whatever. But if if it doesn't sell, then you're all like well, maybe I should try lowering it and see what happens or you know what I mean. Then there's the the other case whereas some people priced off really low I remember. That there was this one woman who is kind of. Like. not necessarily a life coach but like she does like business coaching and stuff like that, and he was like, well, your floor should be X. considering that you're already sell it. You know what I mean. You're you're already you already have clients booked at this, but you know what? I mean. The the kind of standard in the industry is six months and then four six months that maybe you should be charging more for your access and you you kinda like. Honor, the customers that you already have but then as you're trying to acquire new customers, see what the market will. You know what I mean what the what the market will say as far as like if you increase your price a little bit and then it, you know what I mean like maybe ever co-, every couple of months or whatever that you try to keep stepping up to see what kind of your threshold is to really establish what's You don't mean what you're quote unquote time or your your work is worth great. What was your turning point? were you decided that? You're? Like who came up to you and made you think of our as more valuable that you did at the time maybe you didn't think you were good as you were. Is there any way that that? Came to you and gave you a little confidence to continue on with it. I mean I've been I've been painting for over. Like kind of seriously for about ten years. I've never really viewed kind of like what I do. As like even essentially for like the the mass public or like you know what I mean like I don't pretty pictures and it's never been like my bag. I've always kind of made work. The way that I was GonNa make it for four me whether it's sold. was kind of relevant. You know what I've always been pretty fine with. If I'm you know what? Mean I work a job to pay my bills and? You know what I mean as far as like my suit like my studio practice is just. You know what I mean do the work and book shows and put the work out there and is something sells up the price that I want to sell it for. Cool. You know what I mean. I'm always willing to negotiate. You know what I mean negotiate on a price if someone's really interested on a work, but you know what I mean if somebody really wants me to come down like fifty percent on. It's as that doesn't serve me. It doesn't serve as far as you know what I mean what I I have that I have built to be that quote unquote self worth market deluge. Was Your studio that you were in when you're talking to Gary and like you were inside a school bus. I was in my work van. So okay. Okay. I deliver car parts for for my Gig right now, and you know what? I mean Gary Like Tea with Gary V is from Ten to eleven or whatever, and I'm like in the middle of my work thing but it's like I got you know what I mean like you you get. You get told that you can be on you not you take that call. It might be the only the only cash against DOT COM. I would have I I can't even fathom what. You. Know what? I mean like I could not have foreseen what being on key with Gary V as kind of been like for me. Where you know what I mean like he's so good as far as like us like you know like that your followers on idea gonna go to fifteen hundred I'm all like dude, this is going to be insane. It's going to be in because he's so right you know what I mean like. That his community that he's built is so. You know what I mean like when they see somebody that Kinda gets put on and. They believe in what they're doing like they just come out like full force man and it's been insane in beautiful like so many people have shared their stories with me as far as like People, like losing one of their parents, both of their parents and like timeframes and you know what I mean that you know what I mean. You recognize that in other people on how you know what I mean we we we all have similar experiences but all of our experience are individually our own but we can empathize with others that are going through something that's very similar to us. Yes. Yeah. I've lost both my parents and all that kind of stuff and and I got you because I saw you on there. I'm probably I'm sure I'm probably not the only one. This wanted you to have your honor contact with you about stuff. And that's what I think is great. You know what I mean like if. You like for for you reaching out and even Daniel Daniel that's been on been on T. with Gary. V We did a we did an ID alive. Saturday night and you know what? I mean for people that want to reach out and what you don't. WanNa just like chop it up. I just feel absolutely humbled that I mean somebody wants. Wants to take the time to hear to get my story and just Kinda chat it up a little bit. You know. And and I've I've found Gary lasts out of all this stuff that I've been working on and I've been you know because people started building community around here. So I was following what they were doing and and we help each other out and raise money for children or sick and all kinds of stuff. They will link are not yet But. He is bad Andy Art on Instagram Yeah I'm pretty much the art on all platforms so. That's the way. I am separate sense for twitter. It had to get reverse reasons that okay. I do I do want you know thank you for stopping in and Please guys. Check out his art Awesome Awesome Begun Gary I'm hoping Over one day, I get on there too. But thank you for coming on. Thank you guys for being here Gorda Bam is tina pain next. Take care. The.

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The Relationship Series (Part 3)

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The Relationship Series (Part 3)

"Welcome the priorities that is pock is podcasts at challenges to through clever narrative original and really sad tired of the audience fair push them towards their own personal. This is by no means admission to pass but instead occurs showcase tips perspective they might not have showcase cinemas Howard is not a joke and if a parcel control their mind and ultimately able to control their life this gender roles do you feel as though it's kind of double standard question but these are the dopamine can be by don't like being by yourself. A women do ya believe in fifty fifty or the man pays everything but yet getting there ain't no. Let's go get you a day because they won't see me same as will many paint allegations. She couldn't she in cleaning she just there. I back again. Uh for part three this series we're going Hamline Galasso Day. Arkansas spoken into existence. I said is going hard or so today. Me Reason relationships. Everyone has their own set of expectations expectations. Do you feel as though it is your job to meet each area expectation so the mean is a question and we'll get to that so it's come from homegrown nick and this is actually her idea you know our date <unk> out but younger from Hustle on another episode another form inspiration come from Russia solid trading places we talk about gender roles did expectations. I think that was the first song you know put the lyrics in the Bio challenging the norms we know how Saturday like the talent stuff and we see how it seems that roles reversed. We made a women as far as relationships and then accomplished in the head with some friends not that long ago which probably get into a little bit today so I have some guest today. One of them has been here before so welcome back to C.. Nasty hides the sales will be back the to do that. I have another gifts we're GONNA lift and this man is new stage name. Where from who you are? I got Memphis Tennessee. That's it so now. Starting live going left to hear the word relationship. Six from ship was the first thing that comes to your mind union understanding okay. That's a good one now when you hear the word expectations was the first thing that comes to your mind gender roles hours and moderates mutations for mature standards then okay so now both the thriving relationships at least that's social media say Slab Relationships Gustav and he got me for hours over your most recent release to beef though your all your expectations are met initially eyewitnesses say yes but it's a conversation patients in time any eventually we got to where I want us to be ochre and vice versa are also no but I'll say is getting there but it's full me is more of a time thing so I have to be more patient so it's the parole is a Belgian psychologists. They stated that expectations are resemblance waiting to happen now. I don't agree with this. I can see how does not the healthiest which is expected expectations stations cannabis is healthy because it's just like I expecting you to do this but when you do less than that. I'm disappointed that you gave me all this. You wasn't what I wanted. Our expectations nowadays other Oakland and I had this conversation with one of my friends because she was saying you know Oh my God I found out that he all his girls like this and I'm like you have to realize it when you get with someone. They're still the same person that they was previous to you. However there's things that you may bring out of their person but they're still they're saying person the only thing that changed was you? I can't agree with it. Though I like you said earlier union the the open 'cause you mean the middle but some people just get to butthurt from the last relationship and they change a yeah. This is dawn she like all he took me to happen L. as he takes up late like he like there too but it's just like this is the same person over. You can't expect them to be totally different or it was a study this come from dot com and it was a poker John Donavan welcome. He studied Myrtle expectations vexations. He said for about a decade so ten years you don't own a decade found that people get what they expect. He said he will low expectations. Tend to be a relationship where they are treated. Poorly and people were high expectations tend to be in relationships where they are treated well so so that totally counteracts the first last the which is now. He's got me thinking they just really depend on the relationship unappealing because bet and boundaries. If you have boundaries those expectations wouldn't necessarily be there because his legacy cells boundaries in like A. I don't like these unlike day <unk> maturity level up. You have to no matter what religion beginning most of the time is not gonNA be a design exact material until you established then. It's a two way street so mean middle. It's compromise like you to pick you archimedes. Do you want I invite this little league now or you WanNa organize lemnos later like you have to choose and pick your battle. That's been hard won but I think dominate competent for most <unk> like this but it's more compensation. I can't see me but I mean if you have a problem with something and you don't address. They'll probably eat initially that problems not keep occurring because they don't know what the problem is. They think everything I'll find Kennedy. Will you actually pissed off about it right then. People should not expect us all all the problems in their relationships. It says my love left studies founded almost two hundred relationship conflict is perpetual. It says Dr Dan while than when choosing a long term partner you will never be chosen particular set of unsolvable problems. I agree with that one hundred percent because it's going to be something that somebody that you just don't like that Chicago. You'RE NOT GONNA love every little thing you might not like somebody 'cause they choose to. Aw they might you know flipping knows a certain way or why you'll breath smell like this in. That's people learn as I read the same way about. You is does things that way like. Can I get over your birth man talking in the morning running because you know you've got something else you. Maybe you'll like Yo. Your girl you elected puff should be wearing that. She keep all I'm just saying maybe it's because I know you're trying to put her up. Nobody having Caney tell me by the Utah I think this has this has the roof. You know you do it like they were they were if they something that my do don't like I asked him he likes saying I also cute. What about the have? Is your suggestion while where you're hell like this like my life to rally yeah you know daily Amiably Change Mushy to me. Other people like WanNa be like all. You're always somebody don't like this deal with this is it is unrealistic to expect the relationship to heal childhood wounds become a path where the spiritual alignment with self actualization and this was from Eli Finkel and he said that couples recalibrate their marital relational expectation for these existing needs <unk> aggregate that likely will be looking for these relationships to try to heal themselves. I know people that really will jump out of one relationship into another one because I just don't have anybody itself and so many accidents gender roles. Do you feel as though it's kind of a double standard question but I mean I don't like about yourself a women more women against it depends on the individual. I don't WanNa put it on a certain sakes to say this one relies on more than the other because I want to be in a relationship rear robea in Joe Farmer relationships or relationship I can agree to every individual but statistically what the taste executive majorities is. Life dues have no problem kind of being by themselves uh-huh because I know. Are you saying this because you're a dude I don't mind me about yourself and you're not the type they jump from relationship to relationship and you see girls. Try to talk to you. Try to get into relationships roof antigen now because does this like I'm on of many of you don't mind being by themselves. Female female might be better season and that's when we come back to life. I feel like if I'm by myself and my day he likes inside he goes into the reason like I think that is because y'all run into females who try to get a relationship which are all the time vice versa for me because I run into one of jump into a relationship real quick and I'm like damn I ain't trying to do in a relationship. I told you what Chilli wants nothing to make this laundry list but he got to do this. He can't do that and look at what you do the experience of experiences have you seen relationships located according to President Newswire. He said that the new survey survey reveals that the Millennial Ages from twenty five thirty relationships says the meanwhile nineteen percent of Americans reportedly unhappy relationship. They're finding worthwhile to stay together for the wrong and says the average might of relationship is eighteen years overall spiting the thirty six years for respondents over age sixty five and then it says a new report reporting that the happiness index loving relationships in America it commissioned by favorite website. He harmony that six percent of Americans are very unhappy romance relationships with their partners files and nearly fifty percent report being happy with their sex lives so to sum that up because I know some sixty four percent of people are I'm very happy in their romantic relationships and they only fifty percent are happy with their sex lives so people happy but then I don't like you know you see but I may our relationship I am in charlestown sound like no doctor field but is more is more than just six like if he's fired his fire but I mean if you base in tension Kengo do this like you got to do something about it. Some Everson of you. Happy is cool to be happy but it's whatever makes you happy. That's what makes you happy. That's what you're going. I guess you won't run to begin can only do that but that's just like people relying on other people for happiness conciliates yeah. I feel like if you're not happy with yourself. Ain't nobody else will make you feel that having if you're not able to be able to be alone you figure out what makes yourself happening if you always suffered from person to person you don't know what makes you makes your you. Were the person have an I._B.. Have nobody else if you're not willing to say. The best. That was true is it you don't have to be happy with yourself would be happy with somebody else. I know people that don't give two months without being hourly show and then all lay some also. Do these are the heal from what I I expect people to hear the form and you cannot do that. We're not there yet. We're not there. They'll see somebody that ain't meeting Peter so now what are your expectations in the militia by his like three days like through this has to be done like when he got to have a beat Naya no I honestly I tried to go into relationships relationship with an open mind because like I said I'm dealing with someone is totally different from the previous partners so the learning thing like I learned what they like. They learn what I like so Sean's they act you know pop Alabama's to me whenever eggs but in reality is like Oh my God yeah easy this guy he got the fake money all right so the re things like did you just you know communication. You Know Sir L. Expectations Pirie all right. Oh snaps uh-huh one. They take your your first news. Take care of seasons by those you just can't act dumb lazy frame wife relation whatever it is so. That's a nice big. I expect you to take care of your busy as you said only. Propulsion I know how to take business ballots. I do expect it because so then expectation or dealbreaker. Oh Wow you come today. That's the deal she come out. So how is that. How can you put that expectation on them? If you know that if they don't meet that expectation you lost athlete. I'm put as if it's a deal breaker for me but I do. I expect that everybody will nudge the list out of this. Thing is people grow apart like if I see this really elevate and you just got to see him say should live grows eventually home ago. I'm GonNa go far enough where to where I want to live behind yeah but in essence is just like if I see mindue progressing his of David Come on. I need to get mushy like exact lazy but so people don't want to do this. This girl is is an enemy. I say girls because typically men on the is is like the bomb. Yes Bob you guys. You sounds like you got a negative his religious not doing nothing and they continue with it from C._N._N.. Single mothers everything I had never seen. Many women growing up that hey hustle. Take Your Business so if I see it happen. It's like gee but some of this you've got to be no later for take our so. I'M GONNA ask accident actually have three things when she can't be dirty. I got to know how to cook. I'm cook but she too 'cause my Momma Cook Gauhar or she got to have a sense of humor. Okay okay. We'll talk about this off camera but I gotta say like what you're cooking. Theme like eyewitnesses say those Expectation Zion but it was just like I wish I did have do the earning Easter like he can clearly be gives them eat. I'm willing to work with the name. Is You know oh he ain't cookies on my cooking is like I mean. Is it hit amidst some people season. It's enough to take on another off parody nice that up Kim all right so now we'll be off noticed. Do you feel that women have higher status to me yeah definitely well Kinda sorta because the era that we are running into is like women not really let this year hugh roof roof but now I think it's equal because dudes Yeah No. They say I say yes hill you. They expect they see a lot of time now that they see something like that brings expectation like you see a scam scamming you wanNA speak in the do most game if he ever get lifelock why style scandal. What did you start bringing this much money? You've been giving me this all the time my Tasha football. Do you feel like dude. You have to be a ball of for your girl Nasr Girl You'd be with evolve no tail no no money Hell No. I mean it's a place like because I feel like we're equal like it's reassuring to know the you're the stable as you are got avenue because when you do that they I'm not that'd be corrupted minds like because if I were on his money home and it does look the weight lately you do it if the ball and on a girl of real new. Do you guys the first time why you can't get enough now when I can't get in there is like a lot of expectation of their can't stay up. That's what you're supposed to everything so that's what he says a fifty fifty thing the marlins say now if the individual and like understanding like if you'll shorty know that you out of a job our hope she ends <unk> media world somebody if you got added you could be saving for some doing something. That's why I need to learn language and see exactly what they liked. WHO's you know country to abolish book? I mean if that's what you do a younger understand that the networks she don't she now brings feel that women you too independent. I can say that house of that. Wow they're big because it's not a bad thing in essence sometimes okay it can be bad yeah but yeah yeah now. We are truly independent. We'll I was until I became vulnerable and transparent will do like he got appointed light okay. I understand that you can do all by yourself on staying again held on your own but let man be a man pain like if I want to do this. You let me do that for you without you. Saying activity diplomats Hillary series with they like before I met him I have all house. I haven't lousy. I had her for I I everything for myself. I was taking out the trash. You know washing my own car. India's do just came out of nowhere it was I've got your trees. I will not what would you go. Oh baby believe this is my lane. He's like like this is what a man is supposed to do late because my daddy wasn't in the house at night much as I've always seen my mom do holidays outside. Couldn't he offers so she. I'm thinking I hope to get. I think who like I got. I have a problem with it though sometimes being in the printed for so long as like try do Sandra do yet because my problem with that too because I used to wash clothes lawsuit and he's like no I can watch on is fine and I'm just like you know how you say. Little manby metal won't be a woman like let me let me wash your clothes. Let me make your flipping meal for tomorrow like stuff like that and like a year and a half later. I'm just like he's like Oh. You're supposed to just two independent what happens whenever you got a real fucking dependent now independent to independent gets a breaking point. I look doc crime they drink they wind handshake to be crying on the <unk> Todd appear to anarchy our according to Gina Beep. She's that they women become the me they wanNA marry. There see now. I'm not saying that you don't see women open. The doors giving coal to do that is one time trouble though it probably will pants mentally style of course on what have you seen. The girl will get you a the list of COQ. She said at the end of that this is our most women looking for mental Mason feel like a woman whatever the individual's definition may be and she said like I live army looking for women make them feel like their definition of man so kind of which I was already saying it's up to individuals to figure out what those definitions are determined whether or not you know they're with their idea part so it might be a situation where no it happens. The girl might be doing everything in house you know and then at least everyone's favorite compensation so now do y'all believe in fifty fifty or the man pays everything emptive fifty. I'm GonNa let you go after like when you Wichita <unk> splitting two. That's a hard one because I don't expect him to pay automobiles. I don't like I don't know I don't want to call it fifty fifty because at some point it'll be unequal like because he pays the rent and I take the utilities and stuff granted don't utility touching that ring but just like a gives him that satisfaction of saying Oh you don't pay the bills the house and I just can't from Nelson. That's benefits full illusory taking care of a Hebron ray utilities. Are Those see now he plays <music> added the groceries the okay with girls who arcane their relationship that they end were we split everything down a mill. I feel for me actually thing about what I I don't no no. I don't feel like it just depends on on a Paris because if you have a person is like I pay most of the bills you know you should at least do these. It just depends on because is about and then it's taking care of somebody patio but when you live under certain have you able to do it like yeah but I'm making definite what I'm making our expect a fifty fifty thing I get to the point while making a lot of bread and I am I can do that with no problem now because and people tend to find more things to spend money on when they start making more money happy fan like we used are making more money. You just like okay she. I can afford this thing now like I'm GonNa get this their bills more bills. It's just like okay. I'm anti war bills because I make more money but are so low. Okay will again like I said I if I was in a situation. I really don't know because honestly it seemed like the last few it's like some of the girls one most recent. She was Kinda like they're all school. Demand pay everything but my thing is but this is Martin at a certain age like you were saying because I know how how to be twenty one saying I maintain my boys. We'll let you let she couldn't she cleaning she joel like what you've I put on. Those must've to getting then ain't no Vasquez you obituary today because that's how I won't. I won't see me same as it sounds like you. Already at one will many paying allegations. She ain't clinician cleaning she just there. You can't conversation you. Can't I just feel like they're so selfish selfish for you to rely on someone else to take care of the child is like growth but that's what comes back women would be having a natural hustle axiom on. I want to do on news onto. 'EM Even if it's not like no fucking six figure type shit like give out the little matters yeah do something might contribute at least a little bit are now get our we always see men doing certain things women which I feel that thanks to be reverse. Sometimes I feel that women can pay for dinner. Do you agree with that. Oh yeah but it depends on who you deal with because I knew when I was talking about her plan for so so what I would do is I would book whatever the second one of those movies I buy the tickets beforehand and then just go so it won't be like Oh. I'm here for his already paying for so you have to go now deserted deserve hand got get the right. Damn what I really mean. It depends on if you making two dollars an hour do not try to take me to stay for the Oh yeah. You definitely definitely have to be cognizant namely money by you. You have to stay within the limits of your difference when like if I take this day for gay say thank you happy hour heavy. It was a vital tooth is GONNA be a problem getting some McDonald's l.. You're saying that even though they may not be fully capable of that thought so again. We've thought we talked about this last week. When I'm GonNa say it again you know women asking ask me and now they do it? They do you know whether they slide in the deal or whether they just like we should hang out go out sometime. I feel like attack right now. It's the women cash not only. Do you know I feel I cannot be iced out. I am as as long as he catch me. If the end of the day when a female is happy. It's no limited edition of universal if she pissed off this is no limit to issue due to you to women voting people leaving minimum who was on a drop that girl do that. This young women couldn't grace uh-huh bubbles. I did good the flower that bears head we early but becker same sliding ills just me personally four now noise by 'em out Ri- ri- I don't go out so I had a lot of the slide and that's how we started out. I'm not imminent year rejected sell Hasely I._B._M.'s however after the bait out there for him sliding brutus bridge we we the pages he liked my pages than I liked his futures and they have posted like a racy topic to see mentally like if he was gonNA respond. Damn women driving sometime. I liked driving so but now I always like is the women always going out the country across the state. Thank you know why can't I flew flew out through our businesses. Pay For flight travel. Everything we're going to do a real your I do believe that women be paying for some come out for this table so I flew out flipflops pool weady by him ahead though deserted see hundred now I'm of their first album tag bog first of all good C._D.. Girl by the hour so now live moving to another senator we talking about a toxic masculinity so the the definition basically said that according to bustle dot com refers to in this case as a man's innate traits but to cultural construction a man who is so basically you know things like the suppression of emotion the encouragement of violence that encouragement of seeking help help ending the perpetuation of rape culture so now year Laura Yeah so now. It's me personally. Obviously I'm doing this so I don't believe in suppressing the motions because this go come out other ways which they lead into like his encouragement of violence is like you mad all the time tonight you taking it out punching wall snapping on people you know and I clearly believe in seeking help. Obviously I'm here to be talking about this off. Six Joe sought help before so now let's get to the man when I feel like the perpetuation of rape culture now living in the city of Skammelsen promote Houston Texas. You see these people are hear stories about people getting people drunk and you slide it is no I'm talking about like promoters promoters do that Ettelaat follow what they might hear about somebody get him drunk and then they might his nineteen forty to keep giving them drinking drinking do that and then take them back and do whatever in although they might be willing we know sometime people are drunk. They cognate cognitive active was gone on it so my thing is why do we not think Cardi B. wasn't right either but at the same time when Doodoo it is Kinda like a is okay in his push to an extent. I don't think it's okay wow I feel like if you do that much gives you some play like you really like lane. Who WanNa have sex with anybody like your drought weekly by others feel like are saying give it to you sold now? Need them like this. I just feel like fishes so lame like it's actually disturbing Oh. Can you get it so they may argue drunk or so. Dan You fly theo six yeah you before because we flip recoup the toxic committee because as a thing to you know s were girls are forced to you know be submissive I do believe in visible light to the point where they just in the house of cooking cleaning with Apron on. They came work nothing. That's a man for I think I think it's a lot to do with a woman trying to please her man. Because sometimes we get so lost into making the other person happy happy day we would do things that they like to make them happy in at some point. You have to realize okay. I'm losing myself because all of noise is come home from work. Cooking cleaning won't but I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily he doing what he won't <music> but he's just not at home trying to cater to my every need like because amb relationships. A lot of women are more simplistic than men like they don't need for much like <unk>. You know maybe wash Takhar poison gas or something like that but women could clean ticket tea's like they they have a lot to Joel and you have money to spend on Al Shit like do they have the site can feel the same anyway like they have a lot to job like even you may be cooking and cleaning so what would have everything switched when the whole situation sweets influenced clean and I was only couldn't agree on the weekend yeah car every now and the only the only Australian places us yet. I'm just saying like the bills. The roles which are having a relationship is physically minute than it is compared to women also today's society general expectations. It really depends on the person now okay for my listeners a college student so I just WanNa say it's okay to be single for nine. Relationship is okay if you are an alleged is okay. Just you know it's okay yeah honestly y'all and getting a relationship in he whole phase now. You didn't scholars do that. She that need to be a dad so you'd be done exit system because I Clinton over here. Schumer is not is not now ladies college. Your man is nothing to be all. balling out of control is his refund is jumping on doing something illegal so even if his refund is jumping and he out of control all you you we wanna be ashamed because he spent all his money now he knew before the next four months and you wrong because you have your man spending will tend to this day. You don't know how to cook. We're not taking this and then the last thing for the cost of the time learn about your likes and dislikes as we both all three stayed in east to limb relations. You need learn to be be by yourself and no because you don't get a relationship and it's not gonNa work because you don't expect them to do stuff for you. They don't know do 'cause you. Don't God material our so we play my favorite game gametime. Today's game is called. Forgive you remember that due to the absolutely hilarious. Our first win serves us. Are you allow your woman could digress. We talked about it but now metal and you integrates with the down week. He's not let me be. I could achieve now going to take grocery dot com true to eat. weeknights like hey. I'm GONNA take these goals. You put him up in <unk> coining the whole house. I got the <unk> McLean I out does is high I got bad O._C._D.. But if I see it in the third eventually are things I gotta to clean my room for me. Initially I would say this. I was playing the but then it was more so of mead like of the particular way Graham Yeah am I when he would do what I bike. Selfless straight the he needed Ronald like he washed my time he put all the colors in win cycle and I was like so furious and I'm just like okay semi-good like you need to teach him your ways so that he can know how to do it but he just to the conversation in some practice so he can ball club the right way our own no because I'd like to clean the third way that some of these women don't be clean yeah the have. You tried to teach me away. No it's the game changing teach still on your way T- Shanghai because before I was cleaning my house and she was like it is looks fine to me and I was like Oh that take belligerent okay. Ah Do you stand with a girlfriend girl. You Linda do stay with you. Am I say okay situational situational. I can't just be like Oh you know you got to go yet also dish to know like uneasily life in this situation. I gotta do something like even if it is buying Brosio so I stay McCall. You're dealing with someone who doesn't have a job because when I met my job but allows to have an income and it was just like I knew that he was paying for everything so I will cook out we clean I will make sure remove yeah. I would make sure like me personally. I felt like I couldn't financially contribute to what we're trying to do so just make sure everything around now only his apartment but my apartment was good so you just clean up woman hillier cleaner write on our so now. Are you upset. Thank you don't ever receive flowers. Do you give flowers. I give flowers you give get I._D.. Fly Okay. Would you be upset if you didn't give not necessarily because I know a lot of girls on life flowers I don't do. I'm just not that's just not from the but we don't do a lot Shula. No I do know some people they give plows into. I'M NOT GONNA say big flower <unk> just like if I do WanNa do something that he feels. Don't make me happy than ours ours. I if that's what made you know quit okay for me like full makes you so I go here. Some Papa was like she would be elated like this. It's a good thing I'm here for hours now. We flipped him his soul as a man and then what you expect from your news already so now and we are in club. I do that so again having a girl that can't cook you. We already talked about you. Cook the Cook who pretty good food <unk> she cook or she just don't do it. You know I mean she. She knows how I like to cook. I don't mind I like doing this is so much worse than a lot of times when I are who she's like a little alleged so good or come up with different stuff to make like I feel like if I should make the basics for example it's funny because I always talking about seeding this season too much like universities -ality. No don't don't be salty with it has to be season or not season for tick. I'm going to have a grasp on the which Casey this into the shame before I just I was working making so let's go to tacos. I bet so having a woman to darling Germany. I don't think none of us like that. I don't think you well you said you other out. I definitely was she. was some people like the dominates. Hold your own show awesome Matt who don't like just dumb thing. No it is a certain way that you're supposed to go awol will last boy coming in different <hes>. How do you all right last one day the girl Oh being bruce always telling them to do how Bro Keys and we have a com domain name? You never got no money. You broke girls. Don't Dan is terrible. I love Monty Janice lying but to outwit it D- mask you is is that even a word like I wouldn't take that masculinity from my dude telling him you're broke. Oh you ain't got no money Blah Blah casino feeling she like my girlfriend like she superior and our relationship and they don't do nothing but already so I feel like I would not different. I don't feel like I know I wouldn't do that nowadays as they come into play this goes back to the social media like if you ball it. They'll be like oh he got. He got money money. That goes into play. Do you mind if he makes less money. You call him. Bro wrote was <unk> thing. If you're wit show me how to not be broke. Show me Bro. Teach me show me what I need to do to to get to where you're like. I feel like if you're listening what you call them broke off all of these names and you're not trying to help them not trying to unless you need to spoon feed them but as your partner you will want them to be doing better degree this. Why do I just I I try to if I find a new way to enclose a move whatever it is? I feel like if I can do you can do so they any only Alvie winning because at the end of the day like your money is money honey if you ain't got to face I'm happy also joepags his talk to me. Okay I have no I'm dead about. I feel as though again you can call me <music> but if she was to say it as a joke I laugh and then I might say something back says the humor. That's what you now all right so we're going to end up on our one. I knew this going. I knew what I anew on the question. What are your three dealbreakers from opposites? That's just do that. Our someone thank you coming down day. Thank you alright. Someday was clearly long conversation.

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Ep. 85: Rogue Gods (The Hellfire Chronicles)

Not Another D&D Podcast

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Ep. 85: Rogue Gods (The Hellfire Chronicles)

"This is a head Gum podcast welcome to the campaign pain after the campaign. This is not another De podcast. Welcome back to the home. Yeah everyone everyone. I'm your dungeon master. Brian Murphy joined by Jake Hurwitz or one Chore Foot. Emily Oxford. Shine Savon electrifying creek coming after your lick bitch. Threatening and of course called Tanner Beverly Tocqueville the Fifth Warrior Warrior of the dusk slayer of the husks. Ou De Hope. I hope so. We shall see fingers crossed guys. It has been a minute happy. We New Year to all the novels out there. I'll be two years. Yeah and it's been a long time so there are a lot of twos in this year. That's right boobs actually double creek. It's the year the booze we gotta keep going Young Man Beautiful Jeff Ball Roll with a bandage crit twice twenty role with advantage. That's check our stores star. We already. It's already let's first item in the store from D.. Lifestyle brand sweet guys. It has been a minute. So let's do a little recap love it last. Ask Time you guys faced the Lich Akhaura as he attempted to resurrect dead Gods and send them to wreak havoc on the material plane after carving through his acolytes you were able to stop the teleportation of half of the six gods but the other three made it through one was a large monster that looked like a gargoyles. A green gooey poisonous massive eyeballs and the last was some kind of dinosaurs siege monster. You defeated accurate here. But Alana's Alana's warned you that the battle was not over Acura. Didn't need to be the ruler of Hell to control the role. Gods now that the ritual was completed you then had to decide who would wear fire the Hellfire crown acrobats place and decided on pender greens logical choice. moonshine cast a gayus spell on him ordering pender grains to banish all of the souls that were being held here against their will then close every layer of hell except the first pender grains gifted moonshine the blessing thing of his essence cursing her sword so that he could speak to her at any time less and with that he banished you back to the material plane where three Eh rogue God's controlled by accurate. Prepare to destroy all that you hold dear and that's where we are now well. Well that can't happen. Beverly you say that as you guys lands in the whisper would you guys grew up here with Alanis on the the material plane. And you find yourselves so we're near Glade. Yes you're in the woods. Just outside of glade home EC crystalline trees with unnatural colored leaves purples and Blues and oranges. There are still some creek elves living out here and you could see some bonfires choice right. Yeah you see their way unless people living out here but it is also a magical forest like a good life. So long as there's the opportunity to live in Glade cooter pokes his head out of a magical tree house and goes. Where'd you come from? Hey cooter came from hell. Hell you see he sips some tea. Wow that's that's messed up. Install the new leader but I'm probably doomed to go there. Oh no I'm sorry to hear that. Hey Your Mama and your daddy just came through a little bit ago. whoa sorry yeah yeah sick? Yeah he was riding. Your daddy was reading some kind of weird worms and excelsior or something. It was weird actually actually a new. Oh yeah he does that all the time interesting interesting. Yeah I'M GONNA go rendezvous with them but everything good out here here yet seen any. I Dunno giant Eagle dinosaurs. Dinosaur Ball have you you've seen any GOO Goo goo dolls. John Donavan Gargoyles as well. His new high elven wife Parrilla Lab pokes her head out. She goes by five not seeing any giant. Dinosaurs are eyeball months. Oh it's that kind of T.. Democrat cooter slum it yeah I was GONNA say spill. You're positively glowing. Thank you so much. I'm living wildlife out here. Yeah I gotta be honest. The fresh air is good for that complexion by that higher power. I love your chimney. You really made a beautiful patio out here thank you yes you can just the woods magical. I can't believe US hives weren't living out here. Look at this you see. She just starts kicking into the wall and just brakes off part of their house. Odor helps her like layout some branches and it just starts. It's growing a new bedroom. Are you trying to tell us something. We're renovating yeah. Oh Okay just renovating. In addition I didn't know if it was addition to the house. Yeah it's really. It's quite because communicate to conceive but I suppose you're creek sperm could be so potent. Wow she said she just said it really go into the castle a lot of just like running through a million things in her head and she goes like doc. Okay no this seems super weird to be out here talking to cooter but actually you guys need to rest anyway. We need to all be before. I got a question question. Okay I'M GONNA run it by my dad because actually he's here but I'd like to ask you of it. I was thinking of maybe borrowing the thinking cap. You can certainly speak to your father about it. I think he would allow it. Yeah these are pretty extreme circumstances all right then. Let's go find him yard. I need counsel for myself all right. Well it's up to you guys. If you want my advice I think hunker down get some sleep immediately and then let's meet up first thing in the morning all round everybody everybody up. I can head into town right now. I can warn her. Dan have him send out messages to the other. Free cities. Make sure the guards are on high alert. I can try to find the gods see where they are located figure out our next plan. I don't act routes not just gonNA show up without thinking and start blowing stuff up and if he does. I'll come get you can you get out Alanis. T- She looks pretty sleepy. Yeah he chucks a full Mug of hot out. Oh sorry I should probably come down to bring that to you. Let me make another pod allow this teacups just magically reforming though. That's nice asserts. Come back together. I mean I whisper into the I.. Westbourne to my cursed sword two degrees and I said thanks for Japanese in the whisper would from screwed up and Glade Home Guard Smart Water Bureau of Charter. I'm calling for Tactical Juniors. I gotta say a you. He's shown a little bit of heart there. the betrayal but maybe role. What a nice guy our our expectation betraying Bert? Well thank you never been so happy to be wrong Hey well thanks for making this guestroom cooter you might have. We put it to us. y'All at Y'all are welcome to come in here and stay in our new weird guest firm arm. Yeah that'd be wonderful. You know what I mean. Four hours a trance. So I'm GonNa do something slightly inconvenient for well I guess just beverly I'm GonNa make I'm GonNa wake you up in the middle of the night and make you email okay. Oh Yeah of course. Yeah you're going to have to do sort of a midnight night snack broken up. Yeah Sure Yeah Okay my my dad. My Dad used to do that. He would get up and get a midnight snack. Jack well you know. We're keeping the tradition alive. John and I will wake up after four hours hard passes out for nine hundred conversely Alana send you guys off you guys climb a rope ladder into cooter street house and Alanis waves to you guys. And she goes. I'll I'll let them know about the factory too and I'll help to work on trying to remove also got some Snow Globes from Hell as souvenir so he could pass those along. But do you want to just give it to them yourself tomorrow. Yeah that's probably a good call heart of wall so you guys first thing in the morning meet me at the castle. Okay aren't ordeal. Do you see she disappears. Okay I go into a trance but then at four hours I make heroes feast wake everyone up. Shoved down down their throats. And then go into another trans to get my spouse lots back. Great you see cooter walks in while you're cooking the heroes feast. Oh a little bit of that or yeah absolutely cooter cooler. You won't come to battle. Do I WANNA come to battle. I never seen on the field. I don't know what sort of a I'm I'm a little bit of a medic. I can help out you know handed out potions or applying salves and whatnot has kinda my thank. You have always been a man of the people I think you should come with us. go ahead and give you a persuasion check. Eighteen eighteen eighteen once heard that in times like these. Everyone needs to go to battle even men. You See bound or looks up super tearfully and COOTER looks down at bow. Northern looks at you and goes. I don't really know the significance of that phrase but uh-huh yeah mean fuck it. Spill is a cool five. Leave town for a couple of days. I don't know how long you will be gone. Yes they are well. I'm not much of a warrior but I do have a little bit of medicinal training so if anybody gets knocked out or anything anything maybe we can scrounge up some fancy high off armor for you. Oh great idea. I don't know proficient in things if that makes sense dance. Maybe I'm just being inviting you into a bad fate. Maybe you shouldn't join US guys. I'll come along. I don't give a shit I wanted to give give you a chance to shine because I know you're strong dude. Oh thanks I think you'd look great and like a white frock. You know kind of like a Florence Nightingale. Oh five just running around yeah cooter nightingale. I'll wear rock star pegging muffing guy a fraud. accoutrements starts Backing things again. We've got cooter loaded up with some potions is at the middle of the night. Are we eating dinner. What's going on the cooter who also is potato? Yeah because I think it's up to ten people. Hey Parrilla just parrilla. Oh so pardon me. Pardon I thought it was short. Percents Parrilla it's I got. I got feast. If you want to partake you'll have a really good day tomorrow. I would love to have some. Do you want some tupperware in case you need some of this later later anything absolutely is it. Call the we're eating. This in bed is isn't that normal amongst the creek people. Yeah that's pretty much where I ate all mommy. No checking is not because we could have a dining room if we wanted to fund eat med. It's absolutely fun. And then like sometimes you wake up in the middle of night yummy Dream Crumbs Bagley. So how many people Can you do for heroes up to twelve other creatures sweet cooter Inspir- Ila also give you guys some some tough aware so that you can hear hear later. Ooh Yeah we might meet like I dunno five birds or something we want to be really strong or maybe other warriors. We'll see See guys shove a bunch of food in your house in the middle of the night you guys finish sleeping hard-won transis full full nine hours. Got Him I will trance. I couldn't wake him up so when he wakes up in the morning. Then I give him the tupperware prefer the exco go to sleep feed you man. It was weird so the next morning the sun rises it is it is day. Okay so I guess like. We don't have a lay of the land as to what's going on. I don't know how we're going to find these things. Get to the castle. I talked to the cat and get to the castle's e we can borrow the thinking cap. See we can finally connoisseur meemaw and Mama sweet you guys had into glade home I see the troops here are all on high alert. They're all rushing in action. You see high. elven warriors in elegant armor lead New Creek L. Recruits in morning warning drills. You'll see the druids of the old folks. Circle confer with arch wizards of the academy rush to the castle with its elegance. Water Water Garden soon to be waterpark. Wow the slides really coming in. You see you see that. There are some high elven generals sitting sitting on floating leaves like a Lazy River looking over a map. It looks so dangerous. I can't wait to go on this. You guys also see the symbol of glade. Home this Silver Tree with frayed branches reaching up towards the sky recognized by some guards who quickly assure you into a war room within the castle. It's got a full glass wall that looks out onto the ocean. Tall ceilings and walls lined with books. There are various Arcane cain readers trackers and devices throughout the room it's part war-room part. Study Part Lab. You see in the center of the room. There is another one of these is bowls that Alanis uses to make projections but this one is much larger looks to be the size of a bathtub. It's like a dining room table. It's huge. Yeah it looks like specifically made for a council to stand around it and discuss battlefield strategy and you see a bunch of your friends here. You see that Alanis this year along with urban and Mama and you also see Meema Lucas an off Gar. You see the ladder three Especially Lukanen and meemaw snap their heads towards you. Moon Chad Moshav. So glad you're alright. MEEMAW runs over your old guard Brahms. I'm going to be okay but it's good to see yeah. We had a crazy time. There were these weird you go. Well I was blown off into astro space. You see he Narrows his eyes at Alanis. I'm sorry okay I had a plan and sometimes things get screwed up. It's not my fault man. Get off my back and Lucas goes. I tried to get a few cracks in. It's one of those angels that was going after off guard and birds. Yes yes And I misjudged where I was going and I ended up getting caught in the vortex of one of these portals but luckily your mother and car followed me and the three of us were able to get out together good. Wow Yeah it really is all. You're Paul helping your all healthy. Let me check them for soft spots. you start checking them for soft spots they Look good they look like they rested and stuff. This is is a cyber Zora. Alanis waves you guys over to join her at the projection pool. You look in and you guys see a map. Napa Bohemia there's the main continent which is shaped it kind of looks like Australia but it's a bit thinner in the middle then the large mostly uninhabited continent. That's above it. That's the frigid north. I you see the free cities glade. Home Hill Home Foster. An iron deep are marked in blue while the eastern side of the continent including later on and as ry are marked in white to show chosen occupation. You see that in the mountain ranges connecting the east side of the continent to the West. There are markers for chosen troops. Who have set up war camps basically just waiting for an opportunity to travel through and attack the nearby city of iron deep? You also see that south of hill home behind another group of Mountain. Ranges is are the ruins of Osmania the fallen orchestras city. There is no marker on that one it fell to Akra. I you see a lot of pipes up and she goes. The city of Awesome Odia fell win. We took out OSMO. It's the first time we cleared it out when we went through the portal. The first time we killed as Modena's has there been any activity there since I accidentally touched the puddle. You touch it just all turns to smoke. Oh sorry sorry sorry. That's like a half hour ritual that give you help. Action doesn't fifteen minutes everyone. Everyone stands around. weirdly off guard goes and gets finger. Sandwiches better be like a plate of Crisan another heroes Feast knows knows eight. This eleven note here a snack. Yeah and you see Alana's goes the half Ling's in Hill home have reported orcs six in the area. It is likely that they're gathering there so anyway. Acrobats God's Aka the hollow God. These are extremely powerful. I did some research last night based on their physical descriptions and while there's very little information about them I I was able to find some. These beasts are thousands of years old and most of what is known about them is just retelling of oral traditions. Somebody he just wrote down stories that someone had told them long ago So take everything. I say here with a grain of salt because we don't know much watch its Myth but myth usually represent some truth exactly So the bubbling slime monster that we saw is a monster that was once known as the jubilees in ancient faceless monster and devour of men you guys see an image of this green ooze monster. Oster with dozens of bloodshot eyes dripping with toxic steaming goo. It's attacks are highly poisonous. It brings plague and disease that can spread rapidly and it's known to absorb its incapacitated foes into its body. We also believe it can change form because it was spotted in the iron deep mountains by scouts but then quickly disappeared disappeared. Could it take the form of a human. The Scout Party said that it just disappeared into thin air. So it could have teleported could've taken a gaseous form it. It did not sound like a transformed into a human. You see she places. A marker like a black marker to denote an accurate sighting near iron deep and she goes unfortunately these gods are super powerful and have some kind of arcane block where can't scroungy on them directly and and this one has been extremely hard to track because it can change form so we don't have an exact read on it last known sighting near the Iron Mountains. Okay the next God is the gargoyles looking one. This one was once a demon Lord named froze or blue This one is the the most humanoid like and has the greatest command of magic. It too can change shape and height. It's true form but I did catch for a brief moments in the ruins of as Modi was able to track their She places a black marker there since the half Ling's have reported sightings of ORCS gathering here we can assume accurate is using this body as the general of his army is that correct over limited by the intelligence of the bodies that inhabits thinks about it for a sec. Let me go ahead and do history check her Nat fucking twenty. Yes I do think he is limited by the type of body that he chooses. I think this demon Lord is most likely clete going to be the one that he's able to speak through that he's going to be able to control the easiest the other ones he did. Succeed with the ritual Joel. So I'm sure he will have command of their bodies whether or not they'll be able to speak I don't know but there's a chance you might succumb to their primordial rage and be unable to control them a little bit. I doubt he will lose control of I guess. I'm more interested yet to find out if he can be commanding. An army s AH giant monster or if he would be limited so that's a good answer. I do think that the reason this demon Lord is down in. Osmania is because there's a bit of politicking going on. Oh yes rallying the troops I think the other ones are going to be more straight on attacks. Okay thank you. The last monster is The most fearsome legendary God of destruction known as the task. The story say that the monster is impossible to kill and is immune to magic okay. So where's that one right to magic so again it's a story. It's likely an exaggeration but there could be some truth to it. It doesn't get sick during flu season. That sort of thing perhaps APPs yeah and then to answer your question hard one that one we've been able to track directly to the frigid north. That one has not changed form at all that one you see. She points to an uninhabited area of the frigid northeast of Frost wins and you see she flicks her finger in a black. Marker appears and this one unlike the other ones that are static that are just like assumed locations of these monsters. This one is like moving ever so slightly Louis. Which direction is it headed? It looks to be headed towards Roslyn. O Torch I mean it's not there yet Note is not there yet okay. So we've we've sent messages to all the free cities and the froth stores are gathering at the wall. I ask an uncouth question. Sara Way to get this most fearsome creature to go after as really or one of the places that is chosen. I'm not proud to ask that question. But I think we've got to be thinking of any and every strategy available at our disposal. Yeah I think Acura is going to be careful not to equally attack the chosen and the free cities I think he sees where this is headed. He sees that were the underdogs. He's trying to squash US quickly so then he can at full force fight the Allah he wants to erase us from the equation. Okay so because because of acrobats guidance we could not try to sick. This bad guy on the Allah imagined the fitness out. Wait and see what happens. That is is a big part of the problem. Yeah you see off. Gar looks at the map. You've always known that he has had a crush on Alana. So you see. He like folders arms and tries to sound really smart and he goes some indubitably so I would your Sandwich the Oh oh my goodness and you see Alana's back seven. She goes like I think you're cool. Just talk how you talk. It's cool. You'RE A a super smart battle master you know your way around a battlefield. Just be yourself yet. No I was doing that. I sit in a digitally all the time. uh-huh put well put do believe myself. This is a hard one and I talk to you. See Him just is pleading for suicide. Now I heard earl far say indubitably a punch. Yeah you see me Ma nods indubitably. Yeah quite quite right yeah side. I slew Catis as she goes indubitably. Look all the enemy. Everyone it's fine. Everyone smart here. That's why we're here. And we're all indubitably smart. Yes pretty hold your tongue. Now that's normal. He talks like that. Hey Go yeah you easy off guard after he's done kind of like blushing he clears his throat and he goes. Yeah that's going to be a problem for iron deep if one of these gods is near the city. It's likely that as soon as it attacks the chosen will use this as an opportunity to attack our troops there so is iron in deep the greatest threat in the greatest threat right now a lot of goes most fearsome monster the greatest threat. I think right now everything. It's pretty bad and I think we gotta divide us up and we need to tackle each one of these things individually Mama. My Queen Champion wore blood through my veins. I will fight for you where you send me. You see she hops up to your chest and puts her head against ends yours. You ought to let us talk about the best course of action and then I shall decide where to dispense you my champion for. I know that loose end and will be tied up. I live to serve you. You see her. Dan Speaks up and he goes well. If acrobats flattery factory is in the al-kassar someone will need to take care of that. I can handle that Mama. If you join me. Perhaps warn the people of the city then I can teleport. The city landed somewhere safe than dispel the all caster and get to work performing a ritual to remove acrobats essence from it. I have a question yes. I was wondering if I could borrow the thinking cap. I'm of course I defer to your wisdom I do not ask for an ingredient reason I ask because I think it could help but if you think it's a bad had idea I'm not going to press it you see Lukasz looks at you and then looks at her down and goes come on man let her have it go ahead it and roll a persuasion with advantage seen seventeen Dan kind of scratches his head. He looks uncomfortable comfortable. He goes well. I suppose the magic artifacts here haven't exactly been kept safe. I actually think it would be much safer in your hands. I ask that you please return it after absolutely I have no interest in this belonging to me only belong to the elves also. I'm going to make a cute volt chinstraps so it definitely stays on my head. That's smart see that you do also is a cool for modified by adding strap Taylor. It's fine it's fine. Oh I suppose is okay fine you could put a strap on it. I wish Moonshine customizing is it. Thank you so I wanNA keep the brim stiff though absolutely yeah. Yeah and I'm GonNa we tags on you see. lukasz folds his arms and looks at the map and goes I would be able to teleport someone one hour a party. If we needed to get downtown's Modia Iron Deeper Frost wind you see meemaw speaks up and she goes. If you could get me down near Hill home. We could warn the half lines down there. I could wild shape and sneak around Osmania. See what's going on. Get some info foe on what's going on there. Make sure we're not an immediate danger. Yeah Yeah I'll go where we're sent but I would love to know that he'll home. We'll be safe. You see Meema put your hand on your shoulder and she goes young. I promise you not a hair on any of those half lanes is going to be hurt even the pebble pots like a priority list for sure. I guess I'm just saying if harm comes to the pebble pods might be for the good of the half. Oh Yeah I can see the pebble pots using human shields. These are hard times. I WANNA say a hair heard on anybody maybe a few pebble pot hairs are hurt but not outright killed pebble pods aside. I want someone to make me the same promise for iron deep. There's good to orphans there. Yeah you see off Gar. Raise Zack's points to you. Hard one and goes iron. Deep is my home so I can rally the troops there and make sure that the chosen don't get in and if the jubilee six shows up in the mountains I'll be there to fight it able glibly and tell them Sir tell them Dwarf Ins. I got a hot pot of cash for them after at the office. Yeah illegal vampire gold hold on. I hope the orphans aren't out fighting in the mountains but I wouldn't put it past the people who run the door finish. Now there's some there's some fuckers they gasol widely Dorfman's do I know. I know one of them growing up here indubitably. Yeah I just WanNa say though like Bev view an obviously hard one. US Well but if you go to hell home that is perfectly vaguely within your I. I think we're long past doing what we want to do. Now is the time to do what we need to deal. You mean certainly understand that. But that's I hold myself to that standard but I don't hold you to that stand. What do you think I hold myself to that standard? Who Do you think taught me Komo Stop Shovel? Heroes visas mouth so much of it falls in the pool back I it was going to let those go there little wet. That's fine you see Alana's goes. I could join join all scar in iron deep. If what is I do strategy behind Alanis Back Excellent Strategy Man off guard absolutely. Don't need to talk like that off guard school just natural to they do but if any part of what we know about the task is true then my magic might not be much of an effect against it and if the chosen shows in WanNa try to sneak in through the mountains I can make it rain boulders on them right I mean I'm also magical. I might not have much to offer to the to to ask but your magic comes from the land. I feel like you could add as right I can. I can make the fucking earth angry at it starts to get pumped we can make thank regardless right. That's right. Yeah it's going to get the trees going to be so nasty to me spanking already. druid dirty on his dern spell caster and you see my goes and I can get a message out to Cobb Bob. I know he's out in the Iron Mountains I I just ate slice shifts in the night. We just keep missing COBB I can have him bring bring a team to the city in case anything happens there while the well the troops are out. I can have some tales to tell really. Is that open mic night. It's going to be like a four for our valves. HBO Special All right. So I guess that means that we are headed for this dinosaur. You'll be the team that helps frost twin. Fight the task okay. The one thing were were here in late home. May We borrow a champion. Aw bigger I got a hero's fees leftover someone who might be able to really bring that heroes appetite earned turns to you and he goes yes anything. We'd we'd love to help you in any way that we can. We want Mavericks. We've got half of a foot long sub with his name on it. Louganis puts his hand on his Chin Shen and looks thoughtful and goes well. Today should be his first day of class so he's probably still in his room. He's teaching the class asked now. He's the new sorcery professor. He's probably still asleep has crap she could be still asleep. If you go to. The university will send a message to set you up with thinking cap and you can speak with Mavericks and see if he'll join you. Okay all right. How does that sit with all? Let's go on schoolteacher. Es beat feet before we head out. I have one last thing you need to do. Okay I rush over to Garowe quick and fish my orbit recording out of my bag and say you see Arlen. Just give him this. Hopefully I'll be able to explain what's on it later later but if not I just wanted to have something for me indubitably a totally understand how this thing works stupidly. Sir Yes indeed lead. Yes I shall take this technology with me. I feed the tree of the highest regardless I will I will deliver it to earl and if I see him and off-guard if there's someone that you care about they care about you don't let that slip away. See Off Guard gives a little side. I two Alana's and then looks at you and goes. I don't know what you're talking about. Cool hard-won nods quite fairly sir. I I st- I send Handy Andy to Kinda like brush down off guard hair and kind of like Prime Pimm for his long travels with Alanis Not a business trip yes stealthily. He looks really good. So you guys rush out of the castle and make your way down to the university. UC that As you guys are out amongst the elven warriors and the trainees you see papa. Perks up man. What is it boy? Okay I got to tell you Popol business to attend to. You can't just be falling every day career what you want to go steal some food table scraps lean you see he gets down to your bib and he scrambles away okay and you understand him because he's you're familiar but he says I have a surprise. I'll meet you guys at the university surpress Lear more. Ah Papa's getting US something monogrammed leads that jerseys guys run across the Long Bridge to the university and burst into the doors of classroom. Where Mavericks the UNSCHOOLED Zach? You may say hello. Hello adverse the UNSCHOOLED schooled is in. The middle of teaching is first class on the chalkboard. We just see his name written mavericks. I got as you wearing a tie. Ah y'all go like super loosely. He's wearing it around his head though. Awesome and there's a bunch of young students in robes in attendance. It's all right you're going to want to take your textbooks right and opened onto just kidding. Rip Them in half. See the high of a months. Each Other confused is river textbooks and how you yes. Yes Sir US daily they try to rip the. Do Give me give me that one. Are we paid a lot for these hand. Dig a knife into a guy goes in textbooks you have rippin half not not just for this class turning education on its head the love this this is so anti-establishment what is thank God. Ah Walk down an aisle ripping everybody kids schoolbook. Thank you. Who was who was tried to avoid doing it? I rip Ripa Forum and throw. It cost me so much money. Eight your first lesson is learning how to use them in spell Heo jump up on a desk then forget it. uh-huh Whoa God. I was halfway through a lesson where I gotta be honest. I was wearing this tight at the beginning of the class. A search sweating full flop sweat because I felt I felt the true panic of someone who realize they made a huge mistake team really nervous or someone. Who's acting so cool? Hi sometimes you have to just like fake it till you make it and thank God. Let's get Outta here. We had this perfect. We came here. We're GONNA have to talk you out of being. I'm not sure what class your homework write this down. A yes sir didn't you. All their pencils are broken. Shit okay well remember remember this. Don't write it down. Find a truly perfect leaf and surf that bad boy out into the middle of the lake and never come back to school. It's going to be persuasion. Check Help Action Twenty three twenty three Yeah you see like eighty percent of the class starts cheering and runs out in the hall. You see a couple of others just kind of slowly gather other their books. You have a really good rating on rate my professor good straight up dead wizard society. I think made a huge mistake. What were you guys doing? Well okay okay. Here's the deal. We are going on a very dangerous adventure and we thought that maybe we could convince you to risk your life and everything that means anything to you you for our cost. You don't have to be a teacher for a little while and then again I had whole spiel but you know. Well I mean you can tell me the bullet points on the way but I'm in a you know a general heroics The greater good something about that thing about that a couple times yoga okay. Generally risking oneself for the future of Boom Yeah we're also going to beat up dinosaur you guys see as you're talking to Mavericks. Suddenly you had kicked open the doors to go and talk to him and then they had closed you. See Papa scrambles scrambles in from under the door panting ran ran ran. Inhaler takes his inhaler in a moment almond later apple scrubbers strides in Seventies. I live in bree. Okay okay. Are you doing good. Thank you thank you. It's Nice hairnet guys apple for the teacher right. That means you're did you already find relief student. I didn't buy do carry this perfect at least with me everywhere I go. Symmetrical is good. I've never seen leave quite like that. You get an a I don't know won't know how it's GonNa piss off all those else after the other elves all right. I'm in I'm in whatever is them I've started in reading and it is overrated really. It's a nice tool for acquiring some information but the information is all super bias. ooh Yeah why do I like that just like the cheese in it. Yeah very truthful person is yeah I know I remember. We found that bouncing. You split it with us. The late fifty and I didn't even want to you. Insist fifty was not gonNa take honest as the day is long probably like you know honest. People seem talk about how honest they are for a long time to hurt I. I've seen it. I've not read it no reason to believe you scrubber what you have to these days you got free afternoon or five. Yeah I mean I'm supposed to be trained in these elves but mostly I just have climbing trees and then mud borden. They can do that on their own mug boarding their leg strength up get their torsos right. Yeah in writing strengthen torso it's all x corps. They're not super happy with me. Because I have destroyed a lot of lawns but legal rights strength absolutely well scrubber we are going on a dangerous mission. I meant okay again. Wow this Chelsea. Yeah yeah I thought wow yeah like hanging the doorway take points. It's like a siege monster thing headed for the walls. Yeah yeah sure again. You're just get out real quick just again. Your life is in danger. At risk risk yet you might die. Probably GonNa die real quick I'm GONNA pop openness Tupperware have a hero's feast hot. Give some of them a little while. You never had one of these. You have never had a wider BURRITO. Yeah they're leftovers but I think they're still potent leftovers. Leftovers in. My opinion are often better than I over agree. You're right so murph. Does this actually do an extra twelve of Massachusetts the regular Taylor. Okay okay wait. So what do we. Everyone gets twelve points. Twelve extra. Hit points for the next twenty four hours your immune to poison and being frightened and you make all wisdom saving throws rose with advantage and it lasts for twenty four hours. You'd think a Web burrito UH in tupperware wouldn't be that great but this is amazing. Yeah the TORTILLAS is falling to pieces of flavorful and away like it's not necessary stilted juleps and drink the tupperware. You need to get all that glare. It doesn't work unless you drink at all. I'm looking at you. Guys see that after a bit Alanis appears in the room with you guys and she is holding thing the thinking cap she to Moonshine. I was able to secure this for you. Thank you all the also of course Alanis you could use it. I don't know what your relationship to this Item of clothing is do. I don't want Brag but already I plus five no intelligent so that's a huge rip talking about out plus zero so let me let me get the hat right on. Are you a teacher. Sort of not here specifically but just it's like out in the world I teach people stuff fucking love your style your vibe to Auspey. Thank you cool off car here. He witnessed uh-huh is her back. I'm looking at it. I mean we'd better go what's going on but let's go don't either. Hi Nice to meet you nice to meet you on this. This is a very powerful Sorceress wizard this is one of the greatest mud borders in all new stall just a semi professional in it. I mean there. There are professional mud borders so professional as they get. If you cared you'd be professional right. Yeah right yeah no I do it for the love lovecraft money exactly. Yeah you got to anyway. If you hit that I would take it a joy sick issue. We're off by eight. By the time we get there should be fine. All your tax would disadvantage. So Alana's I believe Lukasz was maybe talking about helping tell Boorda's Boorda's or are you I can I can tell you guys there and then all meet all those guys in. Iron deep cleanse assembled. Let's go fuck with the dinosaur. Yeah I'll put on my thinking cap on right now. I have to do any saves or anything or am I like friends with it at this point you have. You've already used it okay. Yeah Yeah I covered in glitter and Mike Mushroom drawings. Make a little more stylish. I WanNa like Kinda like scrunch. It forward a it. Looks kind of like a J.. Lo Nineties hat. Thank you at first. I was like no. She can't pull off Bush put on and I was like she. She can put it all out apple ever tell you ever since I met you some came over me. I do like a real quick rage just so she sees it in my eyes. That is amazing. Yeah you can buy me not slush. Yeah Yeah anyways. Let's go get it all right. Let's do it. She puts her arms around you guys and you guys Teleport's to frost wind. You guys arrive atop the city wall. This massive three hundred foot tall structure made of magically infused iron and covered in ice. You See Alana's salutes. You guys all right. I'm going to go back to glade. Home Grab Gar head on off to iron deep. Be Be Safe. Can you magic us up some coats real quick. I'm wearing a tank top Alana finding the cold. I don't feel it weirdly enough. I forgot this bill for making clothes. So many yeah that's weird. You know what I should just be a simple like cancer or something. I don't know yeah I don't know. Sometimes you forget like the simple things Could just create food and water for you and me. We have an extra cutoff sweatshirt. I couldn't work. I run hot if you want just like my coat. y'All take your dollars coded. It's like a belly shirt performance vest in there that I could borrow. Maybe got a north face. Great as it is above. Love your North into my my scrubber Jersey but it's like hockey jerseys okay. Permafrost PUCK JERSEY. It does get bit. I during the winter. The mud isn't something you would buy. Zuma's jacket yeah you see Alana's disappears and you guys are in Frost when the city wall it is sunset here. The weather is strangely. Peaceful Sun in a setting and the snow falls down in big fluffy flakes This is in great juxtaposition to the chaos around you you see. Soldiers commanding the wall mounting giant crossbows and blisters. Some of them are repelling down joining teams at the bottom. You see the doors down here on the surface look like ants except for these big iron gallons that are these huge iron dwarves created to fight giants outside the wall type. There are thousands of soldiers. Here you see that they are setting up traps There is a long spiked rack that they bury in the snow in front of the first line of soldiers. So that when you know monster show up it can fly up and stabbing them. You See Winter Wolves. These dwarf in Rangers with their wolf familiar the milliers prepare their ranks for battle in the distance in the wilds of the frigid north. You see through the fog that the Winter Wolf Scout Towers I have all their signal. Fires lit which are normally reserved for when they would see giants. There is so much activity and nervous energy here and just people yelling to each other that nobody even acknowledges you people are just happy that there's other people there that there's more warm bodies ladies you see one guy holding a bunch of cannonballs boxes of cannonballs trying to get over to a canon. Hey Buddy you help me with this awesome team brother hands you a box of cannonballs. Maybe just take the one box one book of Boxes Please on here I think they should also provide. I think they should go over here and right here. You're like a commander they're going to give you a deception check members. You know the fucking commander a man. Oh whatever give these recruits no cannonballs tints and hands boxes of cannonballs two new scrubber and hard one. So yes there is all this activity around you. Do you guys have anything you want to do like long before the monsters I do. Oh can I ask someone how far aways monster game can we see him on. The horizon can actually cast commune with nature as a ritual. And we can find out exactly. Where is this dinosaurs sweets? What is the language of commune with nature? Instantly gain knowledge of up to three facts of your choice about the following subjects as they relate to your area at the terrain and bodies of water prevalent plants minerals animals are people's poweful celestial safeen elemental dead influence from other planes of existence and buildings buildings. Great so actually. Maybe it wouldn't work on a dinosaur. He's an undoubted great under dinosaur. That's so bloody he cool. Don't get too excited about him. Though so I would like to know about the dinosaur. I would like to know about bodies of water and I would like to know about minerals. Yeah I get three things Murph cool. Sometimes there's salt crystals treasure trove of gems gems and crystals inside the mountains. Deep in the frigid north. You don't sense anything peculiar about the water but you do sense that the big monster. Trask is about three miles. Away is getting close and it seems to be moving slowly or it is perhaps it is sunset it could. It looks like it's waiting for night gig. We get some and just like a giant moth and let the giant moth fight the dinosaur. Aw just just spitballing throwing ideas out. Yeah that's good absolutely do that. Okay I ask if anyone has seen a giant moth recently yes up here the the big one man. It was a hundred feet branches. Big Three inches. Okay It's a big mothman enlarging spells. Hey Kid Carey some cannonballs. Yeah the ball I take. How many cannibals can I carry so many? Because they're so strong. I'll carry a box sweet. I think we should take out the Horn Bala over Shan as soon as we see him on the horizon. We'll blow that can get these workers we learn it. Oh Yeah Ghost pirates come out those pirates. Yes yeah so I saw one. That's so cool. I should've blown it when I had a yet. Why don't you do the honors? Whenever we see yeah I offer like a little handkerchief kerchief to wipe off the mouthpiece need that sharing spy is a field Elf tradition? I know what you're right I spit on the mouthpiece. Thank you the alone. He's he's not rude our spin on the mouth. I Apologize I spent on. The mouth is in a while ago mother other spin. So it's just one dinosaur right. That's what we're doing your be mean you say one while you guys are talking one of the frost stories. Okay you guys and he goes just one dinosaur. No but then all the giants to what you're talking about the weird giants with holes in is soon you guys didn't hear about that yet. Failed to mention net. y'All got a war room where we don't know what's going on we. Just there's no that dinosaur show up giants show up everyone the walking and pan them toward city where all pretty flustered right now and kind of just going by the seat of our pants as it were. Okay well this snow you got here. Do you think I could mud board on it. I guess we got a bit. There was a word for it. I think you could motherboard on the. Maybe maybe we're all leave. Surfin what are you should be a teacher feature thank you. Wow listen what is snow except for extremely cold mud. Exactly just clean mud in that so it's just lean as possible. We're pretty much a plane where everything's going. There's no like valley aspects or so basically you've got the water on one side to the south and to the north there's like a mountain in range so they can only come from east to west. They can only attack from the east essentially so everybody is preparing pointing. Their crossbows does setting their lines up in this one direction. It's the only direction anybody can come from. I think Mavericks is going to take a take a step and be like hey guys a AH things have changed with me since I last saw you. I've gotten a little bit more bad ass. I guess you could say that you know sometimes to learn you have to have wings. I don't get the O. Oh out of these two holes in his shirt to do dragon wings popout. Wow the skin in between the bones. Yeah yeah there's sort of a tribal tattoo going on in the in the in the actual the I'll see you later members. Well just fly up and just get a lay of the land. Dan like an eagle eye. View sweet go ahead and perception check NAT twenty mavs. You see in the a deep deep distance it gets quite foggy out in the frigid north. But you do see heads bobbing and just Kazan defied giants marching towards the city. A couple of miles away so hollow body has a hollow squatty. All Right Mavericks. I just want to double check. Take a whole look in every direction and then come back down and then relay that everybody adding sweet. Yeah you look in every direction the task would have to be coming from that direction. It's surrounded by mountains on the other side and ocean on the other side so just one direction for them to attack from I I feel like I should be out in. The front lines might corral some of these orphan looking kid useless up here. I'm going with use groper. Excellent Mavericks could you fly Limi- out so that I could just land directly on a giant or dinosaurs head. Yeah I was kind of hoping for the same thing I could do. We could take turns. Oh I also do that I do. I get my mud board an I do an absolutely sick trick. That flies me seventy feet up in the air. Eh this rules. That's do you have to be back on the floor by the end of my term. Very high we'll get you there apple just land so oh hard and you know that if you were in her arms you would die. But she's fine interesting. I'll just throw you. I'll just jump up is a canon throw so you were a dinosaur. It sounds great moonshine. Do you WanNa go with Mavericks and I'll go with stumper. Yea whoever can take me out there go okay before we go. I do want to do a quick inspiring speech to give everyone a little extra. HP I take A. I'm going to have to look it up. It's a good amount so I think it's like everyone in Dr Party and then maybe a couple of the doors on the wall over the guy with the horn. Hey what's what's going on over here. You saying something inspiring or I do like gay straight up Era Gore and like walking up and down the ramparts sort of thing. I like check people's helmets and be like this will hold. I'm forty nine years old kid. It's a good sword. Who the hell are you with pride? Say all of them like if you fight. Well if you fuck if you love if you eat a rat you make it through this this I guarantee you you now frost win to go ahead and give me a jackal. Beverly till after four Allah parental choice. You can also do great beverly up as he's talking to you all right. Give him a boost. I twenty three. You see a bunch of the soldiers. Just raise their weapons up. We're going to. Aw finally say definitely we'RE GONNA party. Is everybody going down on the front lines. I guess maybe I want to go to the frontlines. You don't have to worry about driving me off on him just yet though. I WANNA stay on the wall and then I'll all move to react once we know more. Okay I should've been I'll I'll blow the although the horn now. Then they're the beserk. Come out for an hour sweet horn. Oh Yeah right yes. Of course pirate. Zombie pirate ghosts on bees to me. I Ah Apple. Blows firing the horn. Uc Frost were pirates. Show Up. Hey We're here to plunder the the bad guys God. That was a long pause yeah sorry. We're not the best pirates with everybody. It's too cold out here. Not that many people come not a lot of plundering so one day we decided to kind of come in and just read the Docs ironed orbs. Hey killed us. Tell us the story later traps in everyone's already dead. Hey so everybody gets down on the front lines. You guys see that King Cyrus Dane is here leading squads of troops giving inspiring speeches and whatnot eventually. The sunsets cast Berry Berry great poets a token of good luck of every I completely uh uh speaking of speaking of good Berry cooter came along with you guys. Did you guys want coudert above. Yeah Right. Yeah cougars there cutter. Oh He's a Crook Alvin Kevin. He's GonNa be passing out. He's GonNa be Kinda like when you go on a marathon and someone's handing out gatorade. He's going to be like that but with healing post. He's in way over my head so I'm just GONNA run around supply of bananas to hand out in case we get cramps. Should I have brought bananas your good man juice boy. How right that makes sense cooter for this? We're going to go surfing okay. All right or mud boarding. I really hope so. You guys hear horns go off signaling the enemy approaching then the dwarf in war-drums begin to beat stir my heart don't don't With each beat of the drum you feel the earth shaking these little earthquakes and then you start to notice notice that the quakes aren't quite sinking up with the drums and then the quake's become more violent. You see the soldiers near. Are you look around nervously. It's strangely quiet. There's kind of no talk amongst anybody. You see the mist of the. I'm I'm cold. Breath coming out of their mouths and then you see the enemy approaching. There are lines hundreds of undead giants with hollowed out is they trudge forward with unnatural gates. Some of them have broken ankles. Others are missing body parts and drag themselves along. You hear a roar that shakes the earth shakes the wall behind you. You see big chunks of ice breaking off the wall and sliding down down you have to cover your ears and take a wide stance to keep your balance and then you see it. The TARASCO this humongous siege siege monster with a thick shiny carapace and huge horns a terrifying maw and a long tail with huge spikes. WCHS on the end of it. You see that it's is sockets are empty save for black smoke and the red fiery eyes his of acrobats. You and everyone around you jolt with this unnatural fear. There is a panic within can you. That is it's not logical it is just purely a survival instinct. It's fight or flight and you WANNA fly You WanNa go. Thank God we ate that bloody burrito than you guys are immune to being feared but you guys see as soon as the TARASCO comes into view the line start breaking and you see a bunch of the frost running and the braver ones get out of line with the task and just getting the position to fight giants instead and you see. They're clearing the line for this task. Essentially as it runs straight towards you you giants. I think that's our job is to fight the giants over here. Somebody's gotTA handle. Somebody's got a handle. The giants science there are a lot of the horns more. Can we get there once. CERT- go circle. Just thousands of the soldiers are like running goes with you wherever than I intimidate these guys into fighting the trask with us. Okay apple go ahead and make an opposed intimidation humiliation check against the task. Can I help run this. I feel like I'm still holding me in her arms so we're just like shouting at all the doors. Great uh-huh where're you going. Hey Hey ooh that is a natural twenty out holy shit get back in bloody line. You Cower Howard yeah fight dead. Dinosaur a bunch of a bunch of the dwarfs turn to go run. Apple gets in front of him and grabs one by the collar and turn it back around that one and a bunch of other ones are more scared of apple than they are of the trash. He's a born general and turn around to join you guys. So here is how the combat here is going to work with the dwarves helping you on initiative twenty. There's basically there's thousands of of them. A lot of them are fighting giants but some of them will be helping you guys fight the task. They are going to roll a d ten times six and and that's how much damage they do. Every turn just with thousands of cross bolts if the Rask does damage to the dwarves kills a bunch of squads. The multiplier apply to go down time six times five times four times three until they're wiped out it was supposed to start at five. But you to have rallied a bunch. So that'll be time six more persuasion. Sure Yeah I'm going to fly over to some others that are running away and say surely these brave doors aren't running away from a dinosaur and some big old goons right That's eighteen. You See. They look up at the dude. We're not running away. We're going to fight giants. That's what we do with. Okay all right well cool about week configuring diving. I want to put my hand into the snow. And the ice and cast conjure minal minor elemental 's and and I want some in ideally some kind of Elemental well I have the stats here that I want but I don't I don't know if this is all mental. Yeah that's great yes ate. It is methods little ice methods appear. Hello my babies for you. Yeah nieces the never yeah everyone come in meet your nieces and nephews before they go fight the big dead dragon or dinosaur pick up quick on the the lineage thing. Yeah No witless very important in the fields and the creek free. Do you want some toffees family. I've got some daddy's to call no wake up my daddy's from their Hammer We're home where it's cold as hell and sucks ass. Ah Hot tonight boys. Oh that is the best hot tub in earned the one I will go ahead and cast vow of committee on the TARASCO. You can see it great and I would like to click my boots of speed and get super whizzy. Great yes the beast mode on. 'cause I got my thing so I can do to concentrations bowman the cameras handing down all of us as we get prepped Don. I'm symbiotic but I'm also doing extra damage and Calling up my little ICE BABIES AND PAPA turns into the Fungal Form Green Marine Maverick ticks to bud heavies in runs up to Chicago. This with me and I'll pounds it one-two-three uh-huh you guys see. The TARASCO takes off heading towards the wall straight towards you guys in between it and the wall you guys see the giants science run in front of it and next to it the dwarves pull the trap. The spiked rack comes up and stabs a bunch of the giants. You See. I'm a bunch of them are caught but a bunch of other ones. Just climb over it and the trask just bursts through it and keeps coming through everyone go ahead and roll initiative. Let's go the baby. Ten twenty two fourteen sixteen moonshine. That is your turn. I how close Serena this dinosaur fifty feet away all right Well first off. I'm sending my mineral mental. My little is methods to go after him three. And they're all GonNa use their frost breath. Okay so all eight of them are gonNA exhale a fifteen foot cone of cold air each creature in that area area must exceed a DC. Ten dexterity saving throw or take a to D four coal damage. Okay so he's gotTa do eight. Eight dexterity throws colic me trying to get whatever resistance out of the way nice all right passes I one. When Rosewood advantage on passes second one passes third one fourth one passes fifth one? Six one seven one passes on I guess I kill myself I I still love. You baby's okay. Well even if he passes he still gonNa take half the damage. So I'M GONNA roll. Roll Your De Force. You see you. These tiny little ice methods fly up proud of us. Breathe the breath on this monster who does not break stride stride. Were get an ice cream after this. You're making the ice cream unfortunately but we are getting it on. I think we can go home. These guys got it takes half thirty one so takes fifteen. Yeah fifteen damage. Yeah and then I guess only know to do because I didn't I was planning on burning his legendary resistances and I can't. I can't fucking do anything on him. I mean he's not going to use his legendary resistance. Tiny thing they have to choose to resist it. Yeah well he still saved them all. Yes so I guess I'm just going to attack him okay. The first person to go after him Nat twenty bits. Can you three not twenty tonight. Good Lord eat my fucking drink rink. It up told you to feed her ass. I believe she asked impolite. Excuse me Sir please eat my ass. Sorry Sir please to eat my ass key suck it up. Lisa sure okay. I hadn't ver forty and asked him for eighteen. More so fifty-eight damage. It's kind of damage or you're doing for the sports. This four is I'm GONNA do. I'm GONNA do acid right on. He's not resistant to that Nice. And then Papa's GONNA tax relief. Yeah you guys see these stores were super nervous. They had this unnatural. Fear started to scatter apple. scrubber grabs is a bunch of turns him back around a bunch of them are shamed and join their brothers and sisters and the other soldiers start charging the task with you guys. Moonshine leads the charge. Whips out the sword instantly like gets under the CARAPACE and just explosion of fire. She stabs into it fire and then Pablo Mrs with good reason. That is the dwarfs turn. The doors are just going to rather than dealing with every single one you guys see crossbows and swords and cannon fire from all directions and every single DWARF DWARF together does a big forty damage. Matter said it's your turn hell yeah never versus and I think it just feels like the goal is to just hit this dude a lot and so this is GonNa take flight and start flying to try to get in range of the TARASCO sweet. How from the wall if I was on? It's a few hundred feet from the wall at this point it's out on the front lines with all of these guys but I'll say if your intention attention was to attack first round something close up. I'll say that you flew close okay. Nice Maverick's is GONNA fly and keep flying while he gets closer to the task and and just let's get this party started. I'm on fucking Sabbatical. Cast six level spell sunbeam. Okay Sunbeam is is a beam of brilliant light lashes out from your hand enough five foot wide sixty foot long line which creature in the line must make a constitution saving throw or on a failed save a creature take six sixty eight radiant damage and blinded until your next turn spring break motherfucker successful save. It's half as much and isn't blinded uses uses have disadvantage great address. Go ahead and Roll A D. Six FERMI Five Okay Mavericks you shoot your beam at this. You see it had the shiny carapace you see as soon as the beam hits set just carapace Shimer's and it takes no damage. This is what Alana's told us he's immune to magic he's immune noon to mit story. Said I take Libro others bash that this okay so this also the spell lasts for a minute and every you can create a new line of radiance as your action. Any turn until the spell ends so I will just keep the spell going and go ahead we do in our Khanna. How good is your economy? The unschooled I mean he's a professor Mr the school twelve based on what you just saw happen. You get the sense that if it was something. That wasn't a Malay spell attack doc or something that's shot in a direct line. Might be harder for it to reflect it. GOTCHA can can be good with a twelve. That's all you get Apple that is your turn great. I'm going to go into a rage. And how far away is this dinosaur. Close enough to you guys. You can run forward great so I I am going to pick up young Web Gulick lay and I'm GONNA fly up so we're on the back of the of this dinosaur sore okay stubby little arms and I'm GONNA attack. Is it a quadrupedal or okay. Cool Sixteen sixteen not hit rate in my second attire. The nineteen does not talk. Well then I will hang out and write it lake. I meant to not who are you hanging on the back of the TARASCO guys go ahead and give me dexterity. Saving throws to stay on the have advantage on dexterity. Did he say you can add to that as well. Sick at twenty three twenty seven okay. shadow to the two crew. I can grab him if not I'm not I'm not your turn my extremities plus three five. That's going to be often nine. Okay you are all act like it's a big never got a tiny very tight. How did you get? Are you sure you rolled the right guy they had a lot of stuff to it. This rask flings beverly off Apple. You are hanging on Rodeo style. Bev View fall prone near the task. The task is going to use. Feather falls reaction. Yeah so I- land on my feet. Okay yeah allow well you know if you use your reaction you can let on your feet. It's going to make a bite attack against Bev is a twenty nine to hit here. We go thirty four damage you guys see see at Bites in Tibet and hold him down grappling him with his mouth then is going to take a claw attack. That's twenty six just ahead twenty-eight damage on the first attack makes a second claw attack twenty five damage bath makes an attack with its horns rams into drives you into the ground that is a thirty one to hit thirty two damage. And then I'm going to say if it's got you with its mouth. It's going to turn around and swing its tail at Moonshine. It's a little wacky for you. That is twenty eight. Hit moonshine Mrs Moonshine. You Take twenty-six damage and you are knocked prone just whips you in the stomach. You fly back land on your back so I failed a concentration check So the one that I put on my hat stays but I'm going to dismiss the minor elemental because they would have to recharge their breath weapon. Gresh I'm not GonNa wait there on your ice cream next time. Good here room. That is hard ones turn. Okay I'm on Sabbatical to walk this thing up. Aw School's out you also see that this thing is trying to eat. Beverly like swallow him all right sweet. So can I go and smash my hammer into into its mouth to try to let beverly scurry away. Yes you can either do a regular weapon attack into your damage when you hit or you can do who attacked basically like shove bev out of the way or put your hammer in it's mouth and block it's gotTa pick one. You wouldn't do damage in that and got I'll do. I'll I'll put the hammer ever. Its mouth is weightless out of there right on. Okay go ahead and make it make an attack when he six that hits you successfully put put your hammer in its mouth Bev. You find like a split second to roll out of the way you cannot be chomped at that is hard when you can take your other attacks. Thank you around Sabbatical okay. So I'm done picking this thing's teeth with a hammer and I'm going to try to hit it in the face great twenty-three to hit that does not hit. Oh my a God. Let's wait. What did you twenty three? I had my I had my Davidge Dicey man bound nor does the Dragon Ball Z thing. Impossible impossible I'll take the third attack. You know what that was also not gonNa work but I will wait. I'm GonNa let my door daddy's yeah he'll hill do a saving throw totally fails twelve damage sweets. And I'M GONNA action can keep on beating about right on Dan. None of those who are GonNa hit it was twenty twos and a fourteen so hard one at the end of your turn going to take a legendary action and it is going going to take a tech against you takes a swing at you. That is a twenty five to hit as a reaction. Can I call a the old Yes you can use your Dwarf Daddy's you have the magic initiative feats a shield pops up I pound my hammer against my chest. What is your AC now twenty? Six Baby Bell once again goes impossible crushing power power levels. He's on like very hot bed. That is your turn. I'll Look at my own amulet then and then as my action I will cast a haste on apple scrubber and now it's happening surf surf through this cold mud with all your speed might at the end of your turn GonNa take another legendary action and take a tale attack against hard one forty Farida. So I guess. Even that gets passed my shield going three heading me no. I did the math wrong. Thirty thirty nine. That is a strength saving through twenty six. Okay you do not get knocked prone but you do take nick twenty four damage that is bound turn boundaries gonna Tries Dang hardest I swing Mrs Second. Swing Mrs Crit. On the last thing he does nineteen damage and of balanced. Turn going to take another swing at yard. One Twenty eight to hit my hellish review. You can yeah all right. Cool does have immunity to fire. Unfortunately I'll just do it because it's going to look cool. I thought you shoot some fire back at it. You see its carapace reflects you take your doors. No I can do that. They're a goal man. You take take thirty to damage. Ouch okay so apple the ghost. I've never gone First off role to four plus two to see how many show up that is Eight four now. I got two full plus two Audis from now on they will attack on your turn but for now make tax for they need to roll on that twenty two hit okay. How many so just ate a roll? Eight eight twenty s and Nope nope. Okay nobody heads and they look very cool. I'm trying to help just to be clear. is to be their story. They all on their own little snowboards. Yeah yeah they do have their own little mutt boards. Pirates win the endorphin soldiers hit and do damage. It's like cannon fire Ballista in like thirty dude shooting crossbows it is like every single person hitting does like a fraction of damage that adds up that. Is Moonshine Stern. I get get up and I'm going to ask a bonus action cast grasping byng okay and the creature must succeed dexterity. Saving throw or be pulled so I'm going to create it like thirty feet away and so the vinyl grasp at him and try and pull him away he'll do do I also have to save him on his back. No you'll just decide to bail or stay. I'll stay. That is is only a sixteen only sixteen hour. I'm twenty okay. Let's fail so he just gets pulled thirty feet. He gets pulled a twenty feet toward the Vine Street. He he gets. You see him get pullback. He's happy with what he knocking pieces. Shit I can't do anything until you're fucking resistance. Gone I just to pop. I'll give you a raise. My sister I can't and cast spells. You're right we have spell check to see what the fuck is up for this purpose sink. I'd rather take the health action on. I'm just going to run and try to hit him. Sweep does a twenty nine hit does all right right. I T- The day sixteen in eighteen thirty four chuck on it with their intelligence. Sure yet I can do. Oh Do I have a bonus to my intelligence while I have this thing on plus five all right I'll do Khanna check twenty not net dirty twenty it is a reflective carapace purpose anything you shoot at it magically is not gonNa work are there are that is our weakness point in it no is it. There's their zipper piranhas. I can UNZIP it if I see a hole in it. Yes if you cut a hole in his body and kill him then spells but if I just like a light hole in it and Monier just zap him in that whole. That is the dwarf Murph while other Shenanigans. Okay to ask. Let's give it a soft underbelly does have a soft underbelly. No it's really valley. They dwarves did really bad. They only did ten image. Is this round. That is marriage stern. Fuck come down here. I have an ax. You can borrow. Now it'd be very sick. I'm going to cast fly on hard one Shit Scrub Brecca job to join me. In the Sky Sky I'm going to cast it out of the fourth level. I'm GonNa hit Bev with thank you. That is Apple Stern. Whoever might do anything but attack this giant creature that I'm on? Yeah you're still up Bonnett you haven't it's GonNa every time but he's still on it. That's fine with me. Two Twenty three twenty three doesn't hit rate. Twenty-three does not hit. No and I got a twenty eight twenty. Does he hits. So That's just twenty. Two HIP Tunechi damage. Sorry sorry Battle or you WANNA get up here. No reassure a bevy almost died dexterous. Okay well I'll just keep on hanging out of here then shy apple go ahead and you're right. Yeah we're still here with strong. Your tricks be sick you can do create a go I got. I rolled three nineteen off really brutal. They do not hit. That is the TARASCO turn at the beginning of the tasks turn apple. Go ahead and do a sturdy saving through the outside of your thing now on your on the Yeah yeah okay so I got an eighteen. Eighteen passes great. You can stay on it Okay this task is it's not near dead But you guys have done a decent amount of damage to it and it it is trying to focus up Of the people who are currently on the ground hard one moonshine and Bev. Go ahead and give me pure luck checks. Oh Val nor to three balanarayana threes. Well Roloff no need no need to to challenge. Take second to okay. This thing is going to charge forward at Beth. Here's a question. Yeah this isn't bullshit as a half fling I'm nimble and also stealthy around large creatures. Does that help me at all. No not in that. You would need to take like a high or something so this this thing charges forward at Bev first thing that's going to do his tail attack. That is a twenty nine. Hits Hits Twenty five damage and then I need a strength saving. Throw from you okay. This guy really hates teens. He loves beating up teens discussing. We're the supper own. The teams just bold bulging accurate. I coming out of its socket looking at your creepy as a strange man who is incited dinosaur inappropriate out of the damn seventeen leering at you. You're too big for the teen zone. Aren't you embarrassed streak Strang saving throw. That's going to be ten plus four fourteen you are knocked prone fall down. That is a thirty thirty two to. He's he hasn't had a turn he hasn't moved. That is a thirty two hit hits. That's rolling good. Feel like he has a plus nineteen to hit so yeah really about rolling good Zayd that is even if he roll the one he would hit me. That is twenty. Eight damage on the horns takes one claw attack twenty-six two hits thirty damage on the first attack. Who'll second attack thirty three fantastic twenty-nine damage up Ryan? Sorry I'm going to take a bite attack. These miss obsolete absorb forty one hundred on down. It's fucking truly ridiculous. I'm sorry thirty. Three damage bath and down. Okay yes I guess he goes down. You GotTa hit a million times. I'd get to we'll be flying. I'm flying already Eddie. I can feel myself flying his body once again once again. You see this thing is getting ready to devour Beth white doc. Brake dyno zone. That is your turn hard one sweet. I'M GONNA fly into its mouth again. Okay and this well I guess not again. This is the first time I've flown. Oh and this is the first time I've done this in a while and I'm going to stick my a you know what I'm gonNA stick my javelin into its mouth to try to prop it open. Open okay go ahead and make an attack real. That is thirteen point. It's worked alligator all the way back in moonstone this again twenty-seven with javelin javelin okay cool that hits you're able to poke into it you don't do damage but you stab into it in just enough time to get to roll out of the way all right so then since the javelin is in there with my second attack I call lightening onto it with your second attack. Oh you okay you want to split it between two attacks. Yeah I will allow that. Yeah okay. Is he going to take if we hit him in the mouth. Does he take these this kind of things. This is not a line spell. This is a weapon that is like exploding lightning okay. How soft does is now? We shouldn't target his mouth. No this isn't a video game attack his mouth fourteen damage right on mouth okay. I'm uh-huh and then I'm going to attack it in the mouth with my hammer sweet. What if we make a bomb really yummy? Then he would eat. Certainly that only a twenty twenty one that does not hit the threat. Are you flying away or are you staying. Can I grab Beth. I will let you do a Ed X.. Check against it doesn't have great decks. See who was able to grab. I fou- that's a net one and I'll use another luck. That's in that twenty one. Then I truly Oh my God odd money twenty cents then hearts really what a painful painful handful fumble beverly. I dropped the boy as this thing swings into him with legendary claw attack. You just set it up for an alleyoop without one kid. That is in auto credit. Bevy take sixty damage. But it's to death saving throws I'm see Bev struck down hits the snow bill in an incredibly Awkward Angle. I will say We have not been rolling for cooter. COOTER is going to go at the end of every round of someone's out he will try to give them a good berry and help them but he's GonNa go at the end of the round. That is beverly stern joy. Cour cannot get to yet you will make one death save and if you fail it Beverly Everley Togo. The fifth is dead. and that's rule under episodes guys. 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Episode #1052: New Israeli Music - July 2020

The Israel Hour Radio Archives

1:07:36 hr | 3 months ago

Episode #1052: New Israeli Music - July 2020

"Diomede. Show. Mister clean and I of. Muster show. By. I mean we seek do. Not B.'s. Daughter she. Seemed Zach. Gave Share Gedo. zillow mission. neely. Must Michigan upset. ME. Yeah. So the commission. down. I. Know Siemens concern. Dot. com? CA On the. Maga. Law Concrete. Devout. Moldy on. Mesa. Coming. Our Town? Go to the Israel our on. site. Connect with us at facebook dot com slash Israel. Our email us at Info, at Israel, our dot Com Colon, seven, three, two, nine, three, two, eight, hundred. Here's the host of the Israel our. That is me I. Am the aforementioned host of the Israel our Josh Rosen? Thank you so much for tuning in to Israel our radio episode, one, thousand, fifty-two, two an hour of brand new Israeli music, just the way we like it. It's so nice to play you know these songs just pile up in my inbox, and I am so excited to share them with you today I'm Josh and you are tuned in all around the world I'm glad that you are. If you're watching on facebook. Live well. Please be sure to say hi, check in. Let me know that you're out there. Let me know that you're tuned in. Let me. Me Know. If you're enjoying the music we play, but I I wanna tell you right now. You will enjoy the music. We played today I promise we have a fantastic lineup of Great Britain new Israeli music that just been begging to be played on this podcast and I'm so excited to share it with all of you. We're building a stronger Israel. One Song at a time we do that by exposing you to the tunes and the VIBE, and the culture of the land of Israel and making you more invested in the land of Israel and making more connected to the land of Israel. If we're being successful, you need to. To tell me, so say hi. Fi comment below on facebook facebook dot com slash Israel our or send me a message to Josh at my Israeli music dot com that's Josh at my Israeli, music, Dot Com via whatsapp phone number is seven, three, two, eight, four, four, nine, seven, seven, eight, all right today's playlist ridiculously amazing so many huge names on this play list. We have retired Levy. We have stiffened the Gar. We have Mary Masika. We have subliminal. A brand new song released today Leeann Narkiss I an all star cast of singers, collaborating on a really really cool new song. That I think you'll enjoy. Just release the. The other day and we're also going to begin with a mini. Johnathon well actually ed or Donna thought we did this We all show out of this a few weeks ago and We have some brand new songs by some of your favorites like Dan Rightful then Kosovan and then Benza Kane on today's show. We're going to start with that cell. Police. Say Hi below. Let me know that you are tuned in. It's always great to share this time with our fans from all around the world, and we're going to begin our mini Ed and and Donna Thon with a great song by Omara, dom in collaboration with admits. It's a fun fun song. That is just a little, odd or maybe a lot odd, but it's getting a lot of attention. Israel and it's called Golic. Said I. Love You, Baby. Nevin! Though like me. Down for you to. Celebrate thing alone. Hey come and play with me and we've got one chance one life. It's a matter of faith or best. Looking for my own life. ching-kuo say. Say The word in Abbey. There are more. More. Be! Lying on maybe. A baby it. Off became a Steph. Coming dance with me a have. Look. On the! One two three perfect. Coaching Garcia. Say The word and I'll be, there are more I'm on. A maybe. A. Some Mole Kokomo mall via. Added voiceover gets me by. Birth. Exempt down. Data material our shell accident. Cover this. Look at the cold water. Live. And it's. Nice. Time of commissioning to sell the deal. At Merrill. That, go! There big get. CRAY! SECO-. got. A. Name so Hutler. Mosa. It cloud. Suffocating EDL. Of. Cloned? Stand. That's mom a dream. March. It's a song that you really need to see the video to get the full effect of that. Is Edison Civil? VM those of us who are watching live on facebook. Do get the chance to see the video. You're invited to do so as well. We're live every Monday through Friday at three thirty PM. Eastern time with the show. We call my Israeli music live and also live on facebook on Sundays at eleven. As we record this podcast, please join us for a much more immersive experience. Regardless, the music is incredible it own with civil vm O'hare dumb and Ed and bins that came with a very very strange song. Dancing chickens Arabic garb song in English Spanish and Arabic. Kuku Recu is the name of that song, and we started off with a Great Fun Fun Sung I accord. Lamb low seemed Zach. How we don't do it that way. Israel our radio. We're in the middle of an ED. Any Donna thon a mini. Donavan on today's show. We heard from ED and Benza Cain. We heard from Ed Kosonen. Now we take you back to another one by EDMUNDS can and this one is really sweet I like. This I didn't Benza Kane. Is a brand new EMA. She had her first child about two months ago. Didn't waste much time in putting this video in collaboration with supercell. Of course, she was getting paid by the folks. Folks that shoe fit Asala to produce this song and video, but it really is something very very beautiful back in about twenty years ago. Orna and most show DOTS released a beautiful. Song called a Havana. Shall Ema the love of mother also known as vain, Shelly, my life and it had been zaken renewed that song covered that song in honor of her brand new baby boy. Check this out of Shell Ema. Nino did the. Same said. Aiding. Him. A. Small Taco van. Claim Shinde. Getting. Be. They such. A Cindy? KOMO! Sin Someone. See. them either. I'm send E. He. Cohanim. I'm Cindy. Limited them. Took me many. Sale. Suva. the. I. Love! Shunned him off. Talk Shawnee. Only. told. Loyalty. Is Love. The Kiss. De. At the. A. Him. Go! Johnny mild phones. mean. You know it's going to be a good episode when you have a brand new song to play by Don Rifle. This was done. Right fell in collaboration with stab beggar. Lama Katsuta a great brand new song from him and a whole lot of fun. I hope you're enjoying this music as much as I am I. If you ask me, we've played so many great songs in just the first few minutes of this show, we could go home. Home and pack it up right now, and everyone would be happy, but let me tell you where getting started. We got a long way to go and some amazing amazing music to play, but that was our many don in Ed in a thon finra. Donavan, that's the way we call it down. Downright garland staff beggar with Katsuta and before that brand new from Ed Benza Kane, a beautiful new version of Avas, shall ema, sponsored of course. In today's commercialized society by a chauffeur sal baby in Israel. Thank you so much. You're tuning into Israel our radio, so many people tuned in lined up all around the world that I wanNA. Say Hi to Hi Erim. Thanks for listening Hello Fran, hi sue. Andy wants to say hello to Jack. Hello to both of you glad you tuned in high Gabriel in Rio de Janeiro, Shira is tuned in in Denver Max is not listening, but I'm sure he'll watch later. He said Hi, sends regards Hi Erica From Long Island Ellen in Florida. Suzanne is tuned in Barbara is. Is tuned in Moesha's tuned in I. Love You all. If you are watching, please be sure to say hi and check in and count yourself among the wonderful listeners of this great radio show, it is amazing to hear from people all around the world. I'm Josh Ronin in New Jersey having a fantastic time. Moshe is hard at work every single day translating some of the best Israeli songs of all time old and new. If you WANNA see some of his handiwork well, he posted many of the translations that he does the comments below as the songs are on the. The on the radio today, he posted translations on facebook, so you can check that out. We also post many of them on our website at my early music dot com whenever we released an episode lately, I've been linking to his translations and other people's translations of the songs. We play on the air, so if you want to know what something means my Israeli music dot com is a fantastic resource. Check it out. I'm very excited to play this next song for you because it's one that I just thought has been beautiful since the first time. I heard it Mary. Mary Masika we all know and love Mary Masika. She's been around the Israeli music scene for a long time, and she's one of everyone's favorites here at Israel our radio, Mine and yours, but it was about a couple of months ago that we were on the air on a on a weekday afternoon. Now we do. We do our shows on facebook every single weekday afternoon and I played a brand new song by narcotics, and this is an artist that I've heard before and I had heard a little bit of, but somehow when I was listening to that song. It just touched my soul, and my took my breath away, and I was really really impressed by Narkiss and her beautiful voice, and a beautiful vocals, and are her style, and there was just something about her. That really really took my breath away. Well, Mary, Masika has collaborated with narcan. To bring a beautiful new song that I think you're going to enjoy a lot, let me know what you think of this one. It's called. Shoe. Demos the? We'd so. A. Koo Coo Oma but. Suit. Shama. What's? Ma. Meets Bo Shen? The Soviets. Shilowa Dr The. Perfect! Middle. Go. On A. Soon. ODDS. August. Call. Komo, PA? Cuts me. Just gorgeous, hauntingly beautiful. Mary Masika Anarchy Love It, and now for something entirely different. Kidding County Book. Why Money? died. Cut. Gone Down. Macabre Dinesh Lemay who? And Shot. Reliably Huta other. Of Mile. Dumbly! Hit. Something last. Night Hawking gave my. Gear. Clean! My. Book. Is. By. Much inbound lead. Soon T Let. Shipping. asking. Spending. Hurts? Game Me. Saw Me. Is. Nine. CIMA! Step Fall. Stefan ago, live come. Israel our radio is then the ultimate summer song you tie Levy and Steph on the Gar. He's Montier. Not by note. I only invited girls all right Oh. My God so much fun. Thank you so much for tuning in before that a song that I just had. By, NARC keys and Mary Masika called. Moshe thank you for tuning into the show. Hello Renee. Hello Aviva Hello Kristof. Thank you so much If you are watching, please be sure to come in below. Let's keep the conversation going. It's nice to watch these songs. It's nice to listen to the Song Dawson Nice to talk about these songs I don't know what's going on with my voice today, but we'll see if I can make it through the entire. I you know I was looking at the calendar the other day and I discovered. We are getting really close to our annual time for Aug coug goat I didn't even realize. We're August just kind of crept up on us. We're here four months later after the the the start of corona season and next thing you know, it's August well during August. We have a tradition on this show to devote each week's show. To a particular theme in Israeli music, we call them our August Kagi. And they're all listener directed, so here's the way it works. We come up with an idea. Actually you come up with an idea. A concept concept for a show songs about love songs about women songs about swimming songs about Shibat songs about. Israeli society songs about Israeli politics songs about cities in Israel. We've been doing this for so many years, and we've covered so many different topics, and they're always so interesting and so much fun, and the best part about it is that they're they all. Come from you so when I want to ask from you is to send me your ideas for this year's selection of. Of August huggy goat, beginning the first week of August we will come up with a topic and I'm asking you to come up with the topic and then give me some songs that match that topic that worked for that topic, so give me an idea of what topic we might cover and suggest a few songs I. Don't need all thirteen or fourteen unless you. You want to be my guest, but a bunch of songs that work with that topic. Send them to me right now by email Josh. My Israeli music DOT COM. That's Josh. My Israeli music DOT COM. You can also contact me on WHATSAPP at seven, three, two, eight, four, four, nine, seven, seven, eight, and get ready for a fun month of August I like it. It always is here on Israel our radio with our August. Haji Goat. Let us move on. This is a song. I just discovered this morning. Although it's been out for well, we'll just about a couple of weeks. Remember back I'll have to check on the year. I don't remember when it was. Bless Sharabia. Shoshana Demari recorded a beautiful song called. La Shihri ta well. These guys are made it even nicer. It's Alanna vitale and Zeev Ben seem cone Ilana retile. I've heard that's a name I know. She's been around the Israeli music world for a while Ziv Bensimon is the name I don't know, but I think he will like the way their voices blend together on this song. It's a classic, and you will enjoy it less eerie. Talk Israel our radio the thought. Bill. To she. Got Any seven. God Uh. Sophie. Who've? A. Don't. Kamal Sido. down. She. NAVONA Shit. Shove it. Should. Schwab Foots. Lou. Law She? Own. Sake. Bull. A. Cool Undo. I. See. Love. Even. Shea. Got To be the nicest version of that song. That I've ever heard. I loved it hope you enjoyed it as well and now we go from the cell full to the well the opposite, but it's a whole lot of fun, and it's brand new released just today, subliminal with an artist named triple and another artist named j all coming together to sing a song for you called. Kennedy! A. minute. Yeah. I guess, said the. Image magazine. Has Luckily. Obi. I am move on. Lola. Blah. He. Five K. The. Only. Be Malone. Teach Nola. CONINGSBY WE? Have he and Lance Oh? Hey, man! I can't vote. Not. Guilty! Also. Sanjay Myabe. Dining? I'm in a minority. Money, they may have his own come. Let's go. Out there. Live. Be Malone. But. I do. Fun Brand New Song by subliminal and friends to meade's Kajima, always moving forward on Israel, our radio, having a great time playing some fantastic brand new Israeli music on today's show before that a gorgeous version of Alana of atoll and Zev been seem hone with less sheree. Talk the classic from Bausch Raby and Shoshana Demari I think these guys sing it better. It was really really beautiful. Hope you enjoyed hello peggy. Thank you for saying. Hi Hope you're enjoying the music replaying today. How can you not oh my gosh such. Such fantastic songs and we are not done. The best is yet to or well. Some more great stuff is yet to come I. Don't know which one is. What's your favorite song that we played today? Let me know in the comments. We've heard some really amazing brand new Israeli music, and I would love to know what Song We've played today. That has really resonated with you. Let me know in the comments below and be sure to delay into. Check in with your favorite song that we've played so far today however. Before you do that, you need to here this brand new one. I played this on Friday on our Arab Chabad edition of my Israeli music. Live here on Facebook, and it is the perfect Friday afternoon song and I love it when. Israeli secular and religious all fused together in such a beautiful special way when the most when the artists that you think are as secular as can be. Come together to record something that is anything but. That to me. Is something really really special and really beautiful and such was the case last week when a number of Israel's top artists got together to record a brand new version of Licadho de la duty is the centerpiece of the Kabbalah Chabad service the service that Jews pray that Jews recite on Friday evenings. It said to all kinds of beautiful melodies. Well now you got another one. It's brand new, and it's beautiful and the artists. Shlomi Shabat Moshe Parrots Leon darkies. Do a her own. NYABIRABA Yakult Swanky Akiva tour to. Tie of ally naturally the they are and Yaniv ben machine all coming together lending their beautiful voices with the brand new to a brand new version of thought di I hope you enjoy. It's red eye, Israel our raid Shemmel this whole, then he boo a Ha. He should miano. and. The. More! Should. He God. At the. Let who? LA? Man Last week. Him! Job. Incoming say till. Shabby. mccown! Oh. God. Aw. May father cool me. BBC biggest. Div Out, come me. See. A He. Old. Move. Governor new. Stall! ooh! You. She a show, he. No small. Aw! Burnt. Then he's. On the. China. Israel. Dio I know we have a number of cantors who listen to the show on a regular basis. Will you use this new Kadi as part of your synagogue? Let me know I'm curious to see how this one takes off really something very special. Shlomi Chabad Motion Peres Leonardo keys to her own Beniahou Barabbas. Yakub Shwuaiki Akiva Oregon Neat. I, V, Eli and Yaniv shock with Licadho D, a great new version of that Song Israel our radio. Thank you all so much. You're tuning into the. The show I missed this message earlier. Suzanne wanted to say hello to her daughter. Avivah listening in Canada. Thank you both. I'm sorry. I missed it and I hope you're still tuned in and I'm glad that you are glad that you are listening. I also WANNA. Let you know that I'm starting to tell you right now next week is we're going all request? All requests getting your requests for next week show. We're going to start with treaties request. Trudy listens every week from Australia. Australia and has been me to play a song for her. We will play next week for sure and your request very much welcome. Let me know what you'd like to hear our next week. Show and we're going to get a great selection of your requests all next week right here on Israel our radio in the meantime. Please join us every Monday through Friday. At three thirty PM, eastern time for the latest and greatest in Israeli music every Tuesday. We play Israeli oldies every Thursday we. We devote the show to a particular artist in Israeli music. Every Friday, we play sheer, it's SORTA. L. and Sheree Chabad Fund songs and soulful songs, and we have a good time on Fridays and every day. We have a good time, so please join us then as well always great to enjoy Israeli music with this wonderful community, passionate lovers of Israel, passionate lovers of Israeli music and huge fans of the show. Thank you all so much for being the wonderful people you are. The another brand new Song WanNa bring to you was released this week by an artist by the name of Raviv conair. That name sounds familiar well. He was a finalist, or towards one of the last few on this year's edition of Kava by the reality show, in which the contestant for Israel for the Eurovision Song contest is chosen Raviv I. He was on the very first episode of the show, and he comes on with tattoos all up and down his arms and And very gruff personality, and as the judges are talking to them, it turns out that he was a a high ya'll in the idea of as everybody is in Israel almost and font in operation. Protective Shield in two thousand fourteen. Is that what it was called? I hope so and lost a whole bunch of buddies in that war, and he wears their faces on his arms as tattoos to remember them each and every day of his life and it. Just they bring back such painful memories for him. And this is life in Israel. This is life in our beloved areas, Easter L. That no matter who you are no matter where what part of society you come from. There's a good chance that you're living with memories like these. There's a good chance that year. Life is has been turned upside down by one of the many many battles and wars and conflicts that Israel has faced since the very first day of its existence, so when Raviv Konare a true Israeli. Hero releases a brand new song his first single, since the competition of Hukou Kava, will we sit up and take notice? The song is beautiful I believe as far as I can understand it does reflect his experiences in the Israeli army, the painful memories that he walks around with each and every day. It's called risky seem which means shards or fragments. Check it out Raviv. Come there. By Nine lack of MC Lava. Sh. Mushoo By? Shell. A. Courtroom. Own. Marsha over. See. US. Our. Mind escape. Shows. A. LEAM corner. Share Oh. Chew. Gum? Also. Some. Of. A. Show! Mercy. Did. AWW! Loca Ov-, feel. then. Giddy. going. Shared. Villa dig. stumm about. Roy Me. Eggs. In New Zoom See. Leyla Suva. Gift. Lives the. Auto. Did. Jason. talked. About. Dad MONTHS OF? Absurd. Cool. About. Matt's. Israel our radio. What a playlist on today's show! If I may say so myself, holy cow! If you're just joining us, you've missed time, and this is the kind of show that you must. You must go back to the beginning and listened to every single song. We've played one hit after another I I'm just blown away by the songs that have been coming out of the land of Israel lately, and this was really quite a collection of songs on today's show Leon, are keys along with an artist named more with unleash oopsy cooling, and before that holy cow Raviv Konare. What a powerful song Patricia loved that Song as well as many other people. People it was called Roussy seem really really beautiful, and he's got a great voice, and he's got a great story and I know we will here lots more from Raviv Konare also want to say hello to lay who just said. She loved that Licadho de we played earlier, so did Sheera love to hear your thoughts? Comment below or send me an email to Josh at my Israeli. Music Dot Com we are just about out of here on today's show I got one more song to play for. You I want to remind you a few things number one. 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Selection of August huggy goat. Remember that may Ravin. I are always happy to come and speak in your community UN's zoom these days. It's as easy as can be about the joys of Israeli music if you'd like to bring us in, send me a message to Josh at my Israeli music. Dot Com, we will make it happen, and community will have an amazing time I promise we. We have a great. Great, we have down to draw your family your community into the joys of Israeli music they will come leave the presentation singing, smiling, happy and more connected to the land of Israel one more song before we go today, and that comes to us. Courtesy of a band called full trunk. There is apparently a television show in name a called Tha God all about army, life and full trunk gave the theme song of this year season of God it's called, Joe we will end. End with that one my friends do be sure to tune in every single Monday through Friday three thirty. PM Eastern time right here on facebook dot com slash Israel our. Give me your requests for next week. Show, it's all request and we can't wait to hear what fantastic Israeli songs you come up with and one more thing got a lot to remind you of today. Join our facebook community. If you haven't done so already, we are getting close to five hundred people. It's called Israeli. Music community search on facebook for Israeli music community joined that group and discuss the amazing is music that's coming out of the land of Israel each and every day. It will be great to have you. This is full trunk with Yoma until next time. My name is Josh Rhone. You're tuned to eighty eight point. Seven W. Rico FM New Brunswick have a fantastic Sunday I'll. Boot. SMART! Then guys. Butler. Fun and. Diversion. Deals on. The. Bank of. Gone and Now Masada family. Gamaa. Meka. bought. Cut Not Me! Home. Is. A most. Unusual Moselle. US. Amandas, my nephew love. because. Con? The. Song. Posture. told. norge. Thanks for tuning into our radio I. 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Donna Wanna? - EP 302

Straight Talk with Ross Mathews

1:16:27 hr | 11 months ago

Donna Wanna? - EP 302

"Do I sound like Mexico. Do you sound like Mexico. I smell like Because I was just there. Yeah Yeah last night you know who got in with. Cj was there with me. We Do you feel rested yet. J Yes I do. Actually we got in last last night the driver pulls up here Mike by CJ to his house and I walked in sat on the couch and literally fell asleep completely soaked by the sun completely content fell asleep on the couch with a candle burning. That's dangerous very dangerous. Do How do you think I feel Jo Malone. It was a good candidate flip through it. That's a lot of expensive candlestick gift usually get in target or Tj Maxx. The back with I understand and but that was a gift gift. Can't I slept through it. Did you go nonstop in Puerto Vallarta. Like I didn't go like hard like a party animal but like you know what I like to do is yes. I like a drink during the day by the pool situation. NAP Dinner. Piano bar glass of wine go to bed with a ten in front of it. I don't like to do you know but then one night we did go out to dinner and I had a Tequila with a number. What kind of Tequila was that done? Early eighteen forty two. Yeah Oh that got returned. I was up to in front of it drunk. No no I never felt drunk. I just felt like entered energetic. Ah Yes. Cj was done that night. And I was like where you next. Please let me go where we're GONNA go now because there were three nights before I go you go how I went and I tried to find Rachel maddow on there was nothing there I would watch like. CSI in Spanish. And so then the last tonight. And I got the eighteen forty two I was like. CG where we go with the French by the way sold out sold out and it's now every Sunday every Sunday at the top at Almar resort. What am I right? I can't believe it was sold out. People thing is it because it's a different crowd every single weekend. Yeah so they're selling go. God you meet any straight talkers down. He certainly did pictures and kiss kiss. You have have tens. Oh Gosh Oso did you see on my love to love your striped calf. So it's a it's like a rap really slowly rap that's kind of see through and there was so many of the street talker. WHO's wearing it and I go? Oh my God I love it so much kept saying steel. I'm GONNA steal it after the brunt jr go to my room and it can be here. Knock knock knock on the door and and the Bellman at the back. They bought it for me now. gave the not rooms and I had to use a fake name in that hotel too because has my picture was everywhere. Because I don't want to say every time and everyone anyway the point is this they somehow got around it and God they did because if you go. It's like a stripe captain situation which I wore shirtless. Oh by the way. I look at my shoulders by ten. Did you get any action. Did I get action questions did you. If I'm in Puerto Vallarta and I'm having drinks by the pool and stuff Jeff. I want to get laid. What kind of I mean you know quick question that nobody cares the best piece of meat that that meet? Cj thank you for changing. God bless we have a great show few today. Ah with a special guests in the house. We're kicking it mom school. No no no no this show is. It's GonNa be a real mother who know what what what is. Wow spelled upside down. Aw Mom yeah any any of these good. We should've you mother okay. We have Nikki's he's mom here in the show Kinda day we're going to get to your inner darling all. CJ percent for it. I need it and I'm not going to do it until you do it. Big Big mean Spanish. At least in your that's not Spanish. That's English senior Macho seed you know. see Ross. Oh my God. My water just broke the senior US more yellow. It is hello everytime anywhere all the time. The humidity melted ghost month. Yellow our anyway straight very talk. You wish you had and no you need money now here. He is Ross Matthews. The shoes backed up sweet to me. Oh Oh sorry phenomenal program. We have today for starters this. Is You pay yellow means in Spanish. Was You quick. Reach around him alone is thank you what's going on. Hi How's it going good Juno. Cj is heroes you say in Spaniel wayball the J. J. J. Nikki Boyer I'm honored by that well. And if you are for for starters if you're watching us on the kiss club hope you're enjoying the fund. All of us are doing his show. Mark has show to. He's the only one that doesn't send them in. And I have to send so many texts like are you gonNA is. If you're not gonNa tell me knows I can tell the people I would just make this promise to the audience. We each do our own show and the kiss club video. And all all of that. I cannot promise Marco be there every week. I'm not GonNa make that promise you I'm not GonNa lie to the people because what I have to thank you I have to tell you Getting is like pulling teeth his show. But we're okay and if you're watching on the video you'll see on the couch usually between Nikki and I I on the couch are the dogs. And they're here to people love seeing the dogs on the video you know but ma- earls next to me sleeves up here on the floor but between us as well is is a uh well the one and only for the first time ever here at in Pristina Darling or in any other studio students for the first time time ever Nicole boy as mother Donna Boya is here. Love getting kissed up by Selena and Donald. Oh Boy Oh thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for having me do you listen to the die. Love her voice absolutely. There's this restaurant up up above my house with a beautiful view you know. We went up for a cheese meat. And she's plea and Donna. We all had a drink. I just WANNA say yeah. So Don Boyer Donna Bo. Yea Excuse me Kiss Kiss. How are you feeling good to have another drink? Good Yeah you right here here in front of us we are listen. We got nowhere to Donna Donahue you listen to the program and the regular do you keep up with everything absolutely so you okay so apologies to apologize for everything. I'm just it's okay. It's okay yeah Donna Boyer's cool. I have to say we talked. Ah there have been swear words thrown around and so this show is going to be good. Yeah this morning I said. Let's prepping for the show. And then we started talking about tea bagging. We had a quick discussion over breakfast about anal sex. I think we're good good. Yeah so you're I just say there's nothing off limits during this episode right absolutely not go for it okay. Good when I have to tell you when I came back to read you I have evidence of it here I was no. It's true I came back and I when I was in Mexico I was with. Cj and I purchased a present for your Vaccine Malone. Because every time I go anywhere he said because I always said one time to him he said it was going to the stories. They give me a treat because I always used to take my dad. My Dad would remember that and I see a treat so every time I go to Mexico he says give me a treat and I never do and so this time time I mean listen. I'm busy you know so this time. I saw something and I go. Oh my God. I'm going to get this for bags and don't say what it is but you were like. Oh my that's perfect right. Yeah so I woke up this morning and this morning and it was at eight thirty. I woke up early but I wait until eight. Thirty on the DOT. Look at time it says Nicky. What the time? I texted fags. Eat Right. Here's this eight eight thirty. Am Sat there staring at the clock. Eight thirty so I'm waiting and I texted you up. I got you a tree in Mexico breakfast fist and then I waited eight. Fifty six is texting all capitals. Good morning and then I get at at nine seventeen I get. I'm meditating from taxi. Oh you gotTA SH- literally. Yeah and I said well you missed me anyway. I'm shipping your treat. Eight back to Mexico also voting for trump so there will be a wall between you and your tree harsh but he do the first phones don't buy he goes he goes. I'm trying to spiritual and I wrote. How do you think I feel and he goes? Did you get me Patricia. PARTOUT because fags. He's been doing this. Dykes on his instagram. This area net puppet named Patricia. I wrote to him. I said I got nothing and he said tell me you. You did not get me a hat and I didn't respond. Oh what if I did get you know. I would've loved you. See Right here. Tell me you did not get a hat. We'll no no. I got you a treat in Mexico. A hat no because I was playing with you because I was hoping you'd give me Patricia. Partout like another Marian and I wrote to you I no longer have anything to give you. uh-huh and he wrote an all capitals. GimMe my tree. I just wrote and he wrote now. I said go meditate on it. So harsh happy married. I have nothing I have nothing to give you and tell you earn it. Oh Shit isn't that mean he goes. It's my my tree. Give it to me and I say treats are earned. And that's it. I still haven't giving it to and I won't give it to you. How does do I have to say I? Can I tell my side ensure okay you just read the transcript. Yes but you through the first opens. Your tone wasn't right on. What did you say good morning? Sorry I'm sorry Donna on a boy. Let's go check with the judges done boy said Good Morning. That's okay yeah all capitals. It wasn't it was more it was. I didn't hear the tone hard to is a threat. Minute wait a minute very forceful Nikki. Calls me out when it's a knock APS C. Thank you knew Hashtag Don Boyer. Yeah I was saying Good Morning. Good Morning Okay. Yeah you could have put musical note oats. I didn't hear that. That's that's the spirit with which it was well. A lot of it was being playing with you until you said I needed to earn it. Yeah you did but I have ferndale well it guess what. What have you done to earn? I run the twitter. I've been posting on instagram. Isn't do that for the extra. Yeah but the kiss. KISS KISS A wig. Last week this week we have any this is how we are done. Boyer tell them what you do. Describe what fact. He's wearing beautiful wig. He looks like a pretty UNICOR. Yeah it's a rainbow wake with a Unicorn Horn and ears and glasses. Yeah it's really cute. Where you got that TRICIA TRICIA brought out? I don't have that right. Yeah that's true. She's she lives at Disneyland. Disneyland Blanche Drag so anyway fags e you will not be receiving your wait a minute. I have earned it. I just told you how I earned I. What do I I need to do? Bend over backwards. Anita one I I think you know but I know that I'll know it when it happens. I want my treat. You're not getting your gender. Get now no I was just playing with you the baby. I'll give it to you for Christmas because I did. Put my Christmas tree up-to-date so pretty pretty thank you. It's white sorry C. J. and Um we gotta be way he did it's white white and all these ornaments like from when I was a kid we things and you know what I just. Didn't I put on this year. I put on the PO. Listen I sound like I'm tired. I on just the metallic wins gold silver and bronze. I just put those ones on and then to seahawk ones. And then I stopped. I looked at attrition on. I'm like I wrote on top of that done a lot of work second tree why. I think you need a SEC. I have one in Palm Springs. Set it up now that one you know what I did. Last year I plugged to victory plugged input one ornament on. It sounds like something I'd I'm busy but you have a little tree here in the Pristina Darling studio you have a little just a little. You can see it because I am a really holly jolly person. You know. I'm Hojo's Joe is Mojo but I just I hear Is Crazy for me. I mean okay. So can I tell you something and I told Nikki and Donna Boyer this. When my first book I did twelve cities on a tour? You know big big. This is like a theater tour and do a whole thing this year here. I said my goal. My dream is to do more than twelve cities right and CJ is gonNA come on the road with me. I just think I finalize it's going to be thirty cities you guys thirty cities Albury and into March. Can you imagine that I won't be coming home for a month. And just stop and you don enough about your dating life. Don Boyer So we're going to announce I think next week the cities that I'm coming back so intimidating and I'll do a whole show and it's just about every city we cover the northeast he's the southeast the Mid West the northwest southbound we cover the whole other credits exciting the whole country month. You're going to be gone a month. And that's that's just part of the tour and then I have a couple of weeks often back out for a couple of weeks but for a month straight. We're going to be on the road having like a day off day off there but basically boom boom boom. How crazy is that is so excited? I can't even understand your expectations. I know I was so afraid to you. Knew it tiffany. When I was writing this book looking ahead? This idea do the tour. I actually thought myself like what if you write the book and nobody buys it. Nobody cares in your over and so the fact that winter from my hey no matter where and so. It's really rewarding Tim. I'm proud of you. And then the work what Britain the work it does feel like my mom keeps saying to her so she's not even on Mike she I'm coming. I'm coming and going with them. Just say I am can you. What did you say you said dummy see coming? I'm coming. It sounds like the in Mexico. Oh my that answers that question. Ah God I love you just the beginning of Don Boyer. Let me tell you something. This show continues getting to know a lot more about Nicole boy as mom voyeur is saying with us and we come back. We're going to play a little game. That's gonNa Appeal MS senior much. Come on Micky. 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She's well known for this signature signature. Sound that runs in the family. Yeah y'all my Gosh that was in the DNA. Let me hear it again with Donna. Don't don't they yeah. I taught her. Well Burn thome. It's God reflects does run in the family. I've heard much well. Well we are so happy your time. When I they found out that Donna Boyer was going to be here I thought to myself. Well what do we do with with Nikki's mom because you know Nikki is a beloved eleven member of the family. People love to know about the where we come from. You know our texture our history all of that so I wanted to. I could ask you. What was Nikki like growing up? He's not okay. Well I want I want no no and no one is no one cares. But when I wanNA find out about is more about Donna Ana Boyer so Donna Boyer can. I just hoping that Mike for a second. Just just hand that mic over to Donna. Boy So Donna Boyer you live in Saint Louis Missouri Missouri. Yes and tell you here's a little tidbit about Donald Boyer. Her father was was the man who would the beacon on the top of the arch in Saint Louis built it. One of the people that built the arch and Saint Louis Absolutely. But you don't go into the top of the arch because I'm scared to death. I'm CLAUSTROPHOBIC phobic. Yeah see I'm learning things. We went to a drink. I learned things about and so I wanted to play a little game so we can all learn about the woman that created Donna. Nikki Boyer. How is Nikki's labor? How is that lever with Nikki? Boyer easiest thing I ever did in my life really y y three hours in in and out. Wow like these days women are like I did it with no drugs but guess what back in the day. There weren't drunk right crab drugs no drugs. Wow on the way to. The hospital stopped and ate fried chicken. Oh my God. CJ lemonade made. I love lemonade. And then you win. Drought bought a pack cigarette. No you smoked. When you were pregnant you wrote wrote? Yeah I know Donna Marie now Sheila. She smoked when she was pregnant. What does the Fried Chicken? Nothing it was so I think my husband said what he want like that. I just love writing aging. I heard it when it came down from the bottom light-heartedly changed because I didn't mean it like that to gauge you in the Congress Congress that you know sometimes I turn this when he hasn't talked for a minute I go. Cj What do you think right in that many J.. I did not mean that. Talk about turning tired but I heard it. I thought everybody changes subject and I just felt that laser steer review and I talk to me didn't mean everybody just vouch for me as a human being that you'll hear me. Sometimes they see your red in the face so you don't so racist intention wasn't racist but I heard it as through the came out with like. Oh my God because voucher me as a human I turn to C. J. Sometimes and just incorporee you drive in fact what you're hearing. Cj tell the people would fags. He's right it's okay we hear you. We believe it sounded so racist. I really didn't mean that God. It was easy. No now. You're talking about high school clear. Ah I didn't talk. We are not a racist that came amount wrong. Oh my God I'm dying is telling you you're not really you're in one of those moments careers. My God God. Why'd you have to have fried chicken not a voyeur? You ruined a cigarette really a cigarette absolutely lutely throughout the pregnancy. Yeah aside do well. It was a different time was six years everything and six and so this is why she doesn't use. Microwaves part of her brain. Right right right. Oh my God did they did not know it was bad for babies. Then they didn't told me not to smoke. I would not have smoked. Of course we would like to say she turned out fine. I'd like to but I would I wanna do is was this. I WANNA play. I WanNa get away from fried chicken cigarettes during pregnancy and I want when I can't get away from that and I I WANNA play. How do we get to know Donna boy? Or how do we get to do it. We should probably find out. You know we play Games. Would you know who you would. Donna WanNa WanNa what exactly game all about would donald WANNA which. She wanted you down which she wanted to do this. Which you WANNA do other things? So we're GONNA go Renaissance Donna. Would you want this and then you're going to answer yes or no. I'm sorry little game. We like to play with Donna WanNa and it takes a long time for this song to get to the part where they sing Mamma Mia and that's why I'm stretching now because I didn't realize it was that so so it's not even now it's still it's still so we're gonna all say don't WanNa would they would I think Donna WanNa does she want to do it. We're not let's all find out now. Donna WanNa that's all I wrote in making it up as I go along Donald. This oh my God. There's no words now. C. J. Really Really. Sorry about that thing Donna WanNa let hideout yes if she said what do that U. K.. We're we're giving me some marijuana. No okay okay so I found it interesting that you didn't want to go to the top of the arch you're dead so we're GONNA WANNA skydive no no and why Too much of a pussy understood. Cj with Donald. WanNa go dancing tonight long absolutely have you. When's the last time you went dancing all night long? Oh longtime ago. I think it's time you come to Puerto Vallarta and can go with that. I'll do you'll do it Donna. Donna one some of that Tequila had mellow yeah. Donna Would you ever want to go to a nude beach. Would you lay out naked. Absolutely enough dot interesting. Donald ally don't want it to some pipe. I been there done that okay awesome. You did thought about two weeks my sister on the way to deliver Nikki Hospital weeks ago. You did you do two weeks ago. Can you tell me about this. Well I I live with my sister. She's seventy eight and she's all crippled. Jackie yes aunt Jackie and And you take care of you help take care of her and we pot. We smoke pied She just gumy's kinds of crazy shit. That's wonderful along with their competes. Right UM WITH DONNA WANNA be on a nude beach with a black man that eats fried right chicken now. Now now that's offensive. Yeah and you should ask another question. I want to stand up for that not on this show. So okay move on Malone Donna Donna. Let's move on this past weekend. But would you want to have your own podcast called Hashtag Donna boy. Oh yeah no what about podcasts. Called Donavan Donna or Ya. Ah Donald Q. I'm tired understand. We made alive down. I'm exhausted. Don Don WanNa have sex whole hell. Yes yes oh ooh you do what you don't want to go on deeds. Oh you just WANNA have sex. I wish for Donna My saying this. I wish that Donna had like the fuck buddy. Would you be open to that Donna. Yes I do I have a girlfriend and she's like can't we just paid get fucked. Isn't that introduced Nikki. Walk me through your thoughts on that. And then you know I'm crass but someone the other day of the Charlotte of straight talk with Ross. which I thought was hilarious? I'm the proof is in the city. Now listen I think I think everybody should have have a fuck buddy. If you're not in a relationship we should there should be and I guess there's grinder and things out. There should be like an applet. F Buddy where you're just searching for people at any age any gender whatever. We're just like Wednesday and it's like what are you doing like. Oh do you want a Mama Mama you would if some dude was like. Hey Donna on Wednesdays we're GONNA GONNA meet like we're GonNa go to fucking I don't know old country buffet and then I'm GonNa take you home and have sex. You'd say yes well after knowing but yeah Yeah Nikki. I'll wait a minute. Wait a minute I have to reveal something I really don't know why Mr my see. Sometimes we do this like a fake real. There is a fuck buddy in my class and are you serious. You have a fuck buddy. Yep but you have a vibrator grader. Wonderful Donna WanNA WANNA Donna. You have this wonderful your love it. This is great raid inspiration. This is wonderful. This is concerned. I have to tell you I got it. Yeah how did you do you have a pocket rocket or as a whole like the brands. What do you do you endorse by the Yes? She's a spokesperson for this company. Paid many. Oh Hey okay. Very popular competent online and ordered it yourself. Yes but let me tell you. Yes so flipping flipping freaked out. I was afraid my sister's kind of out there and left feel little bit okay. Good Watch this box calm And Are you talking about Regina Right now out of this box watching title a package and my sister opened up and I thought how into how am I gonNA talk my way out of this one. I'm going to do an expose now. Walk you backwards a little bit so you didn't have ah vibrator and you're comfortable talking about all of this. You brought it up wait a minute. Yes had a really good one but when she came to town to move me out from the House to the apartment apartment I threw it away because I was afraid she'd find. Oh this is great by the way she could have given me recommendations on what brand new by so but let me then you say okay. I need another one so you go you. How how did you find Adam and Eve dot com? TV ON TV was a popular one. Okay so you go on and you're thinking okay. What in what were you looking for in a vibrator right Breeder Nikki? People wasn't a wait a minute. WHO's listening to this but nobody you don't have to worry got it totally anonymous? Look in that camera there in wink. All right go Let's say I I was looking for someone with powerful that could take me from zero to a hundred and this is the so and then. What kind did you buy like? Wait a minute. I'm trying to think of the name of it. It's pink and it's about nine in inches long. Oh just just below sea and it's and it's got ten speeds on it Same is huge glittering glitter's famous DJ. So you go from. There's ten feet from one to ten. Yes and what speed do you do. Go straight drape for ten. y'All my God like a young Ross Matthews well done on three full boyer so you don't even start at one and build it yourself at ten. I have to say we've had one drink just so everybody knows this is not just you know. We're not that we had one drink. Drink up on the hill. Are You mad. No I just didn't know this I didn't know I threw it away when you came into the first of all that away and not just say Oh there's vibrator later you'll see it on a podcast. What's different it's different? Okay yeah because maybe you weren't ready for that then. Nicky is a safe zone. I'm here to honestly it was kind of get more out and I was really looking a little more power little more. Uh I know what I'm getting you for Christmas. My God we should all. That's what we should get into the buying each other prisoners. Who should all by Donna? Boyer Sex Toy. I'm in Guy I made only gone not okay with that God. Ross you got. You'll be I want Donna Wanna I can be wonderful. Just take this to the next level. How do you ever use anal beads? Mom No okay all right ooh uh Alex questions asked my mom for five hundred. Wow you all uh speak to your mom's like this yes. I do C. J.. I do not talk to my mom that sex. No I didn't never do with my mom. I in like that. I've never gone into detail about my sex life with nets ally just lie deal. Lie Deal you have. Yes what do you remember the details like yes. We're GONNA get anywhere but you got the detail. What did she say didn't phaser didn't faze her at all? Were you nervous. No we were having wine and we were talking and I was like. I can't believe I just said that to you. And she was like I don't care. Yeah that's great. I just the thank you because I will never forget this asleep. I will never sleep or forget this moment ever in my life. Yeah well I insist on who you know. I wanted to play on the one I I did. I said I said. Can I ask your mom. Anything and Donna. She said Y'all all answer anything. Donna were you planning on making this revelation on the program. It's okay well. What really for everyone really domino word really phenomenal? I know what we got one but hours. How is that so I was great? Wow All right because in your house she feels about Nikki off. Okay well this song really long trying to get to the good part. Okay Everyone Donna. WanNa she wants a yeah Duh. Ah Walk that's you using a vibrator Da uh-huh be right. I don no no one yes she did Donna did she thought you don't draw She went there. Donna Donna WanNA graduate to a bigger vibration. The whole you right back at the support for straight talk comes from manscaping. It was the best in men's men's below the belt grooming manscaping offers precision engineered tools for your family jewels. 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Don Boyer vibrators therapy of that session. I think that's Great Donna. Donna was saying earlier I was. I'm coming well. She was right about that is he. For the week heavenly Such through I'm weak in the knees you you want to be our email of the week and email Mirada straight talk with Ross Dot Com. I just read your email like I'm doing now. This one comes from Benjamin's. That's how many names Benjamin from Melbourne Australia. uh-huh downunder. I want you to do. It's it's the best zone. Cj like this is my favorite bonding the look on his face. The watches them like so seriously. Does these serving over time. It's amazing Jay laughs constantly when we're together because he just can't can't believe the shit that comes out of my mouth overdue. ooh I'm really nice. Really Nice but then like sometimes I have an opinion but some of them Back to us. We're so old Benjamin from under rights. I WANNA put for the case. Demonstrate your number one fan that being my partner James from the very first eight James mentioned straight talk to me from this moment on he continuously talks about it quotes it mentions it. The statement of that's from straight talk is almost a daily occurrence in our household his mood. Each we can center around whether or not he has listened to the latest St Episode and Russ went offline for a period of time. Recently James would state. I'm worried about Ross incessantly to me. He was starting to get. He's starting to get down. There was possibility that sweet talk wouldn't return. Everything takes a back seat. When an episode is released he'll drop literally everything for it? I'm forgetting forbidden to play music or listen anything when it's playing. It's almost like a fix for him. Sometimes generally get worried that he has a full blown straight. Talk a Dixie. Oh he admires the hell out of you guys and when the Kiss Kiss Patriae tree on I think that's what it's called became available. I swear to God he would have been one of the first on that list. He's gone through everything extra. That comes out each week through it. He's a kiss kiss club. Member monster is it. Here he continues. I myself haven't listened to your show but I go around quoting things from the show that I've literally no idea what I'm referencing. I will say I love that. You love ex and give the name Steve Often. I even know that someone called Magsi Malone has given someone a hand job in a random bathroom while it was recorded. God I send this email for a number of reasons one to genuinely say thank you for making him utterly so happy. It makes me smile well every time I look at him listening to you and to. I'm trying to organize some presents for Christmas for him and wanted to highlight how difficult it is to order things Australia and three to say it. Keep up the amazing work because you hold such an incredible role in his heart kind. We Are Benjamin. Who's never listened? Nice just yeah such through. I'm weak like Donna. Moyer I love those guys makes it all worth that time for Nikki Bead uh-huh uh-huh coming the fucking hate says okay. We have Nikki trying to. Do you want a story about a dog that accidently turns on the microwave and almost burns down the house. Do you want riddles about parents. Events in honor of my mom being here or do you want an UN- Nikki. Believable that refers to the show and this person needs all of our advice. Now I'm partial to one but Donna Boyer just like with Adam and Eve dot com. You get now I choose number three Jovan in the happy ending much like with don ordered. Okay right so you guys this what I love about this story is that it it kind of brings all of tickets. Okay so okay his from Riley Heineke first off. This email might be a bit of a mess but I promise you one hundred the percent that is worth it. I'm a member of the Kiss Kiss Club and have the right. I know Brian. Thank you and I have a situation going on in our life that I could use your expertise on ever since if I a close friend of mine passed away a few weeks ago. I've had premonitions that I need a change in my life. Let me give you some background at my last job. Ebbe worked with a guy who became. I became quick friends with we bonded over the fact that we both wanted to leave town as we felt stuck in a small town in northern Canada and to go travel eventually eventually I moved to another job and we saw each other less often but we still remained in touch a few weeks ago. This friend actually passed away. Ross actually talked about it on Butch Ricky about a post that I made in the facebook group about the member when you played the funeral Maroon. Five Song Yes us and the person said that they couldn't stop laughing at this person right. Oh it's appears to them on here so She's been having a bright lis having I don't know if Riley's a guy or girl it doesn't really matter but anyway Riley says I've been having vivid dreams of almost every night. The next part is where. It's a Nikki believable. Two nights ago I had a dream which I ran into a different old friend at a luxury hotel on a private island the next day. That same friend who. I have not talked to over a year since he moved to Australia. Don't message me and offered me a job as a bartender at a luxury resort on an island in Australia. WHOA I am currently a bartender? If the story does not get crazier than this what do you. Ah The straighttalk family talked about an episode three. Oh one you talked about okay which I don't even remember but I love that rightly knows episode three zero one taking opportunities please before you miss them and we happen to talk about Australia in that so riley was like I had to reach out to you guys so the question is Nikki. Am I crazy or is this a sign. Do I sell everything and take a chance to move to the small northern Canadian town or from from a small northern Canadian town and moved Australia. Please let me know oh kiss kiss Riley or have very strong. I knew you would listen. I believe that signs happened for a reason and you have to follow them now. I'll tell you this. They may not work out right like you think they will. But you'll get the lesson you need from them all right. I've hundred things happen. Where this lined up this? I can't ignore this. Science will have to follow this or that person and I have to do this. And there's too many signs to ignore it and then when it didn't work out I thought to myself but there was so many signs I had to God right and only with time since it passed and I learned all this stuff from that relationship did I realize like oh the signs were pointing because I needed to experience that in order to get somewhere. It wasn't about the happy getting that happy ending right. It was about experiencing that so so I can use that knowledge and experience to move forward to get to where I needed to get right right. Love you. Listen it's about Don Boyer say in the Mike. It's all about the journey. It's the climb cyrus it's the climb. Okay me too underrated so I think yes if all these signs are pointing pointing to this direction. Yes I think you should listen. It may not work out. You may go down hate it and this and this but you may learn something meet someone Experience something that you're supposed to learn experienced screens meet this. Yeah no excuse me that said. That was one of my favorite quotes from the judy movie at the end when she was singing somewhere over the rainbow. Sometimes the journey has to be enough. And that's when I just bought like always trying to get over the rainbow but sometimes the journey just has to be enough. It's the climb uh-huh but I have to say Riley would you know what's interesting. Is that like we could have chosen three different stories. We chose your story to read. The email of the week happened to be from someone from Australia. Crazy raises. This is another set aside your heart but woulda Coulda Shoulda as our way harder to deal with right then reduction. What do you think well? I think that it's already pretty. It clear that he's GonNa follow his sign in and move lake or he wouldn't have written that we need to see you talk. And you're like twirling your with your finger like cowgirls do that like you were doing that. I believe in science I leave that Signed signed something. That's the name everyone. I talk a lot about signs of my readings to they come up along so I say pay attention. They're always there. Red Flags are always there to let's differ gonna Boyer whether Riley should take this amazing bartending Jo. Pack it up and go. It's the journey Ernie. Yup if the outcome you're standing there saying what happened. The point is you took the chance you went on the journey. Yeah Yeah that's where you learn. You gotta ride life like vibrated from Adamy. Let me tell you let me ask Don Boyer. And here's the question that a no other outlets going to ask you even got her which she signed an agreement where the only outlived the interviewer right. But here's the question. Donna Boyer Yes. Do you use a microwave. We get zapped. You had do things to do because it's insane to not use the microwave right. Yes you know your daughter when you who uses a microwave. I do and at her house this morning. I made three or four cups. The tea in your microwave and Tommy uses her. Oh my God but you still don't use it Nikki to even to make tea now. Now I don't all right. Why would you hit up your mic Donna? And I'm GONNA ask you. Do you think this is because you smoked when she was pregnant. Yeah Very Geico all very muggy. Thank you so much for sharing what we think you for so long got. How'd how'd you know my balls? Were full give it to me give it to you to me coming with backseat. Okay all right Ross. Stretch my God but just a baby. Maybe okay okay so I sent you a song for just say I'm GonNa just a phase song. We still doing. Bring the name drop book. I sent you a song book. Changing the challenge is inching taxed. And I'm so glad you did one too because as I think we should kick that in more okay. I'm searching all his crazy sunglasses. You send sent me Oh name. Name trump challenge. I didn't even see it. Hold on I never even heard this case in the namedrop challenge of courses when people know what is is it song about the book. Oh yes challenge. Also when you go to the store yes and and you change the screensavers of the ipads and the computer to challenge US challenge but the other ones writing songs about namedrop name. Yeah he's a rightist song for name job so you wrote a song about namedrop. I didn't write it. It's just a parody. I understand we don't need to be specific because and this is a two because we we asked the listeners to write their songs about namedrop and Oh my God gets how many how many. I didn't get one. Why did it? None of these listeners wrote a song about name. Not We'll have you will now. That's why let's hear coming at you. which namedrop challenger Reggie they drop make it pop or at namedrop Book Dot Com? Don't stop name. Dropped grants number one drop presell shopping thank namedrop dot com a draft. So good I think is really the first time you drop make it. Pop Order at namedrop dot com louder name drop bring number one drop presell shopping shop noble resale shop. You Walk me through your in your urine. Miriam Darling yes and you. What did you hear that song? Like name dropping then think backwards like what Song Thumb. Gosh and so you went to. Don't stop or did you hear. Don't stop and go. Oh that could work for namedrop. Good great question what we watch the American music awards kind of together here texting and we saw Sea Kasha right right and I think she sang that song or did she. She went she start with a new song. Which I love that new song that has has Big Freda Yeah and then she went into this so that when it hits you I think put it in my in my subconscious thinking and then I woke up it was in the morning. I'm like name drop. It just came to make it pop namedrop Book Dot Com. Don't stop drop that's number one drop presell shopping Draw Nets. It's really good. I know I did the one the base like the one you better than that You take this name. There's two different names challenges geolog- NCA Drug Jingle Challenge. There you go it just okay so if you you can take the namedrop jingle challenge you should record your own song and send it into Rosettes. We talk with Russ all play out because literally no one sending him in so chances are if you make when did I did. Yeah you did did you did I. Did you earn gift yet. From from now the gift we're treat rise thank you know Treat worthy thank you question your New New York and the and the Thanksgiving parade. The macy's well we're like have you done before. I prayed before this. I got to be on the broadcast. I hosted the Verizon livestream But the number one question you know it is Thanksgiving the time of giving and being charitable and everything and so the number one question that I I got and want to answer here. Is that jacket. I was wearing his from Banana Republic. Forty percents off I went. I had this dream. I said I wanNA unaware camel and black but it can't be washed out camel because God forbid so I was very and I said I'll buy it New York all fucking live and I. Hi Wendy and I I was. I was searching Hardcore and then I was with somebody and found it in the in the perfect camel jacket. And I'm I'm so excited that I texted you. I really don't read your texts. Feels I mean we're talking about okay. I know you were amazing. And I love that fucking jacket. I really just wanted to wear black shirt. Black pants chance black leather gloves. I found the leather gloves. They look a whole vision because what I wanted to wear and it was very neat. It was neat to be there for you. Know Listen I I think the truth is this. The truth is the macy's Thanksgiving Day. Parade is American middle of the road middle. America's you can get up and I think like Oh my God you know someone like me gets to be either and when I was growing up there weren't people like me on there. You'll never be a broadcaster because that's stupid voice of yours and I think Oh my God and hearing 'em being me at macy's Thanksgiving Day parade in the most American thing you could do at that level and Hang America. That's what it felt like that. I'm it was nice to see on my TV. I feel like fashion thing with style with you now. Would you ever want your own clothing line. Yeah I have this visual. Listen I always love style you know and then I was. There was a bit where like I didn't style myself. You know and I sort of like dad. I didn't do that. I sort of handed that the rains over and so now I find myself in a position of doing that again. And it's really find fashion really good at thank thank you thank. You can have your own clothing line. You know what really was kick started. It was doing emmy look this year and really started taking the reins with that and having a made in. I don't know I just done. I just decided to start spending some really real good money on fashioned lately like shoes that always fit because my weight goes up and down between two like mix high low and not trying to do it in a way. That's like Boozy but in a way that you know it's really a budget creative like right now. I'm wearing A. What would you call this forest green Zebra print sweater? But it's from target joined the kiss. You can see it. Yeah I just WANNA say quickly. I was on Palm Springs on an interview the Great Sarah Sanchez and she works works for NBC News. She's a news anchor out there all the time I watched. Here's Sanchez every day. When I'm in Palm Springs and she's a straight talker? She's a straight talker huge fan and I interview her for afterglow. It's a long after it was like forty minutes. And it's it's it's in the fiscus club so I just want to give a shot up. She's great and she was wonderful and to all the people who've signed up for the right right so many of you have and we're so grateful it's less than seven dollars. If you're thinking about doing it do it. You can even try it for months and if you can't if it's not your cup of tea you don't WanNa do anymore you can close out. Give it a shot because we all do shows videos there. I'm telling you there are there's literally hours of content there if you want and it's really good stuff and if you think about would it cost you a week. It's a dollar twenty five a week or something like that which it's worth it. I promise you it's worth it. gives us a shot. Go to the kiss club. Join our patriots. Yeah I'm proud of this afterglow episode. I think we used to hear it. Okay just real quick I have a don boyer stretch. Oh my God Donna Donna. She's just a baby Donna. Donald boy I have a question. I have questions for you. I'm reading lost. Okay Donna boy. At what is the worst thing. Okay so what is the worst thing Nikki did. When she was a kid like the thing were you were like a can't believe that's my kid? Oh peed down both of her legs and Ben Franklin dime store. Oh my God why would you like. What and Benjamin Franklin was actually there shopping and she said I have to go to the bathroom and I said okay? Let's go grabbed her by the end and she said nope too late. Wow Nikki do you remember that. Mr Actually remember this. I remember looking at the Trinkets Ben. Franklin dime store was like all trinkets and treats and things that you won't get fancy no now the last one ever given to you treats and things and I. I was so excited that I held my p.. And I held my peace of I time. I told her it was kind of too late. Yup Do just leave the peop- Huddle I heard you clean it up. Oh I went and got somebody. Okay so what is. What is the best thing that she did as a kid? Like where you're like. I'm so proud of her well. This child came out singing dancing smiling laughing and has been ajoy every second and that is the truth. I love my best friend and she was barred are we were like But she's only someone likes Mickey she is. Yeah I do I do let me tell you. The truth is Nikki is beloved here. She's Nikki beloved and you did a really good job raising that one. You know that there there is a good beautiful heart now is helping people with Nikki. Be Life Coach and talk about life coach. I'm really proud of her too. So well done done. A boy turns. It was the best ball Steve Ever heard one more procedure. I don't know if it's really procedures about the chair. Are we ever going to go to the next week. Him Well let's just wanted to follow up on it I did so next week. We have to debate this. Cj in everyone called me to this that we have to do this so cj last week when you weren't here fag descending sentenced sat in your chair and he loved the chair and he said I want this chair for now one because cj sits in a recliner situation in over there. It's an e how you say eames chair. So Google Eighty MIS. I think it's all laid back and chill and end so flaxseeds. Sent this out there Erin. He decided he wants to share real good so I don't know how to handle this before I wouldn't start now. This is a deep deep tease. This but next week we're GONNA HAVE YOU'RE GONNA make your case for the chair because in fact the CG how do you feel about the fact. Jay Z really. Wants you chair in what's to come on and make a case and try to earn chair and have you guys swap chairs leaves to say people in Hell when ICE WADA car tags. Well I love you Jimmy. I'm not I don't WanNA fight with him for the chair. No no I don't. I don't find her sure but but he he says he wants to bring it to the council each will make your case on. who gets the chair and I want you to each this next week? I want you to repair case. Come ready to to the council next week to prepare. Why you why you should have that seat and why you should have that seat magazine? Yeah my mom. Just made a brilliant brilliant parental suggestion just by another Jair. Donna mcdonagh boy. Who asked you right here you go get your vibrator and shut up okay? Ghana Boyer. That's rate massage chair. I thought I bought vibrators by two chairs. The right she's right great. I can't wait to come into the tribal great the tribal the tribal council. Let's the tribal should also email us and let us know who's thinks should be the judges cooking took intercepting on it. Okay okay okay My favorite time of the year okay. first of all just want to say everybody. Give love from this holiday season People work a lot harder because a lot of people are going to be on vacation and going to restaurants and ordering Uber's just I. I know. Sometimes we weren't over and it's just easy to put one dollars two dollars. Maybe just give a little bit more because people are really working hard and taking care of families and go to restaurants just if you can tip a little more I just love the holidays so much when you send Christmas cards. Really write a good deep message. Sometimes only one gifts just want. I love when people write letters and cards and that goes a long way during the holiday season. Just give love during this season. You know we're at the type of December and that matters the most to me. I love the holidays. Just look out for your neighbors. Look out for your friends. Check on everybody because sometimes it can't be darkened money. He can't be low and people are struggling to make things happen for their family. But if you give love on Christmas Day that goes a long way. Love goes so far during this holiday season. So if you can give any way you can tip. Your Uber. Drivers little more Tipton waiters because they are working as off and don't be a Dick in a restaurant restaurant you know what I mean. They're working they will bring that side that you want they will bring that catch up you know. Just ask them politely when they come back. That's all just look people during this season Oh also also real quick God bless Kamala. Harris I don't care who you voted for but I give an. She wasn't even you know you know she wasn't who but but she was a woman a woman that was out there and fighting and I know she may be coming back as a VP. which opened for somebody? But I'm I'm really proud. That she was out. There did the work. We're just in such a special time where it was like. Democratic Party is unbelievable and so for her to be in there at this time. I'm in America's really really amazing me at Ross and I was sitting in my house decide. Wow sitting back saying that was really amazing and see her doing the electric slide afterwards. What a whole team and I wonder how team when Chet how everybody was like we put it in the fight and it was good and so everybody coming and afterwards like Kamala like you like you know what I mean so I just WanNa say I just want to say God bless to that because that was the work and you put in the fight and so I I appreciate who whoever anybody voted for? It's not about I just. I love that secret talks about the here along social media. I love her speak many many many times I donated to her campaign. I love her. So how did you feel when you found how she was I was with. Cj he no he talked about so much phil split apart and did some shit and then came back together and he was still title that she wasn't going to win. But you know this. Let me tell you why I love her. I was a first time I saw her speak was at this event event where she talked about. Well high breakdown where I was at an event forgetting what it was and she came in spokane okay to a LGBTQ event and you know she was She's a senator from California but she was the Attorney General the State of California but she was also she worked in San Francisco Right. She was a councilwoman. Something I in San Francisco where she came out and she said she was running for office and she had to go speak at this event with it was like fifteen gay amen in the Castro and she thought she's like how am I going to connect with game and from the Castro. I'm a black woman how I'm a black straight woman. HOW DO I? I talked to them and so she said she was on her way. To the event racking her brain trying to think. How can I connect and one thing that she was working on was about teens getting abortions and having to talk to their parents and she's like an so? I just thought well that'll make sense. So she said I'll talk to these gay men about that And she said imagine being a teenager and having to talk about sex with your parents as gay men imagine how difficult that would have been so imagine now if you were a thirteen year old girl having to talk to your parents about sex and she built that bridge so then the gay men could go. Oh I can understand I can Only empathetic towards that. I can understand. And that's what empathy is such a powerful thing. It's understanding your other human. That may not have the same life experiences you but you can feel that issues and the fact that when she spoken took a talk about that bridge I wanted them to understand what that must feel like for them even though they may you never feel that exactly. I thought this is somebody who I would like to see with the their hands on the reins she is a young woman. If she's if somebody's smart they will pick her as VP give non if and if somebody from the democratic side Wins Watch out for her to be attorney general of the United States. I love combat. Ahern's France just from afar. I don't care who you vote just happen to respect the woman and And I'll tell you this too. It was nice to see a black woman on that stage during those has debates because that is a voice that needs to be louder in in a in a position of power all right so thank you for bringing that blackness delicious delicious delicious. Yeah thank you so much. That's the show I think Donna Boyer. Let's get the. Can I get my computer up here matthew because the audience's applause they didn't really hear thank you. Donna Boyer I have to ask you came here. You shared with all of us. You let pot earl sleep next to you under your sweater we looking all curl wetter. How do you feel having experienced your first Episode the episode here in Pristina. Darling honestly like now that you've done it. What do you do say it again? I'm staying not leaving. I'm I'm still coming up. She's still remains a link. I'd love no let me tell you. what I know to be true one moms are so so important to you have done a wonderful job. Thank you with your daughter and thank you for sharing it. You know when you went to bathroom Nikki. When we all hung out she said thanks for being such a good friend to my daughter? And the truth is you. Oh you are so welcome because it's tough. Sometimes truth is thank you for making a human who has blessed our lives. You have done a good job Donna. Boyer thank thank you thank you thank you but let me thank all of you because this little lady talks about all of you with nothing but the the greatest of love and respect. Yeah she loves you all and I know that and I appreciate each and every one of you don of millionare's earlier managed to I love you. Stop the music for that moment. Please don't interrupt. 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Special Release: Can AI Change Your Mind?

Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates

51:29 min | 1 year ago

Special Release: Can AI Change Your Mind?

"Hi, everybody. I'm John van. And in this episode of intelligence, squared US. We're doing something a little bit different. Usually we put four people on a stage. Two teams of two who argue out one sharply framed resolution. Our debaters are experts in their topics and have spent years if not decades thinking and researching and writing about them, but not this time for this debate. We have partnered with IBM to host a first of its kind to bay between a human and machine. That's right. One of our debates here is IBM's project. Debater the first artificial intelligence system designed to engage meaningfully with humans in debate this project started in two thousand twelve IBM's research lab in Haifa Israel, and now in San Francisco, it's becoming the first ever non human intelligence, squared US debater in this debate project to baiter takes on a world class human debater Harish not to regime, we didn't tell either debater the topic or the motion before the debate. They both had just a few minutes. To prepare. Let's see how it works. And now these director through the research. These past June few blogs from where I'm standing right now. I've EM bailed project debater an AI system that is capable of engaging with humans in a live debate. It was widely reported at the time that the system really Heli zone against to Israel, debate champions. But for us it really is not about winning or losing. But really about the ability to create a that can master the infinitely complex and rich world of human language. I like games language can really tell us more about human thought, and expression. And these these world that is most interesting to us at IBM research. We believe these great potential in having artificial intelligence that can understand us the more transparent and explainable that we can make the more. We can trust it and the more we can trust it the more. We can rely. A on it to help us. Make better decisions. Have you researched? We have a long history of creating technology and capability that can amplify and complement, human, cognition. Providing more information and more context for us to help us make better decisions and project debater is no exception. When vision future of the technology, well beyond the podium, helping people to reason to Bill will inform arguments and to make better decisions today, you will take on a human debater who holds the record for the most competition victories or team of scientists have an improving the core technology behind the system to prepare for these formidable challenge, nothing is prerecorded or prescrip- it except the very first sentence that the system will use to greet the human debater, I should also point out the team of computer, scientists that will be. Be with us on stage who are part of the team that created the system and who here to keep an eye behind the scenes of what is happening. Today's topic was chosen from a curated list. It's important to note that project debater has never been trained to know. That predator was never trained on this topic. You may hear project debater repeat itself and necessarily or make mistakes this is because it's an AI system and systems are far from perfect before. I turn it over to our host. I want to give a shout to the debate club from the Dougherty Valley High School in San Ramon as well as a team from the bay area urban debatably who is headed to the national finals. Now without further delay. Let me introduce the host for the evening. Four time. Emmy winner from intelligence where John donvan. Thank you Dario. So this really is a nice intersection crisscrossing right at the word intelligence, your project debater here is an experiment in artificial intelligence. And I host a debate program with intelligence in its name intelligence, squared US since two thousand and six we have put on across the nation close to one hundred and seventy debates on a wide range of topics from foreign policy to politics to culture to sports to food what we eat to our healthcare systems, basically everything under the sun our goal in doing this has always been to raise the level of public discourse. That was the vision of our founders, Robert Rosencrantz, and Alexandra Munroe, they are here in the house this evening. I would love to give them around of applause recognition for this. And we do this not only by encouraging and insisting on civility. But also, frankly by making a contest out of the challenge of having to present an argument, intelligently and also persuasively. In fact, we have already wants debated the issue of artificial intelligence itself that resolution was don't trust the promise of artificial intelligence. I felt a little pulse of resentment from behind me. Did you feel feel that we're going to be doing again this spring around the matter of self driving cars, but this this truly is a first for us the first time that an artificial intelligence, namely project debater will be on our stage arguing with a human being and made the best debater win. And as we like to say at every debate may civil discourse win as well. So let's get started. Let's meet and applaud are debaters I arguing for the resolution tonight will be IBM project debater. And arguing against representing the rest of us. Please welcome to the stage. Harsh Nadarajah on. He is a graduate of the university of Oxford and the university of Cambridge and a grand finalist at the two thousand sixteen world debating championships. Also, the two thousand twelve European debating champion, please come to the stage Hari. So we are going to be hosting a single debate this evening around a single resolution the Format's going to go like this we go in three rounds. I we will have each participant offering a form it introduction argument on the topic. After that we go to a second round. That's a four minute rebuttal round each debater rebuts the arguments made finally we move onto round three, and that's a closing round in which they make a two minute closing statement sort of a summary. Then we will share the results of the voting after we have a panel discussion with Harish and two of the IBM scientists who are behind this fascinating research. They're going to explain in even more detail what we just saw happen and how it happened. So to reveal now the resolution of the evening is this we should subsidize preschool, we should subsidize preschool that's going to be the resolution, and I just want to say what we mean. By that the way that we're framing it. We are not talking about preschool in any particular locale, no particular city or state. We are also not referring to any particular program that exists or any particular proposal out there. And finally, we are not talking about targeting or choosing preschool programs for any particular group of students in any particular place. So knowing now that that is our resolution, we should subsidize preschool our first debater in round one will be a formal introduction from project debater again and project debater actually has a gender. She will be arguing. She will be arguing for the resolution. We should subsidize preschool, ladies and gentlemen. Here we go project debater, greetings Harish. I have heard you hold the world record in debate competition wins against humans. But I suspect you've never debated a machine. Welcome to the future. I will argue that we should subsidize preschools we are going to talk about financial issues, but not only about them in the current status quo. We accept that. The question of subsidies goes beyond money and touches on social political and moral issues when we subsidize preschools and the like we are making good use of government money because they carry benefits for society as a whole it is our duty to support them subsidies are an important policy instrument. They provide governments with a means through which to pursue industrial development and ensure the livelihood of their citizens. There are two issues. I will. Operate on. Now, I will start by explaining why preschool is an important investment. I will also say a few words about poverty, and I will end by discussing some other issues that show the positive aspects of preschools regarding investment nature based preschools are powerful interpretive programs as well as lucrative business decisions as I mentioned preschool is an important investment. For decades research has demonstrated that high quality preschool is one of the best investments of public dollars, resulting in children who fared better on tests and have more successful lives than those without the same access. Secondly, a few words about poverty while I cannot experience poverty directly and have no complaints concerning. My own standards of living is still have the following to share regarding poverty. Research clearly shows that a good preschool can help kids overcome the disadvantages often associated with poverty. The CD has recommended the government subsidy. Dis pre-primary education to boost performance in poor areas. A statistical summary of studies from nineteen sixty and twenty thirteen by the National Institute for early education research found that high quality preschool can create long-term academic and social benefits for individuals and society far exceeding costs the centers for disease control and prevention reports that universal full day preschool create significant economic savings in health care as well as decreased crime, welfare dependence and child abuse. Former prime minister Gough Whitlam said in nineteen Seventy-three that preschool is the greatest single aid in removing or modifying the inequalities of background environment family income or family nationality now to an additional final issue. A study by the Melbourne Institute of applied economic and social research shows that attendance at preschool has a significant positive impact on later. Napoli? Now comes particularly in the domains of numeracy reading and spelling the results of. A new study of over one thousand identical and fraternal twins published in psychological science journal of the association for psychological science, confirm that preschool programs are a good idea. Here is a study from New Jersey that is worth noting in New Jersey the follow up to the abbot preschool programs study continues to find that high quality preschool programs increase achievement in language arts and literacy, math and science through fourth and fifth grade. I hope I related the message that we should subsidize preschools you possibly hear. My opponent talk today about different priorities in subsidies. He might say that subsidies are needed. But not for preschools. I would like to ask you, Mr. Nutella, John if you agree in principle. Why don't we examine the evidence and the data and decide accordingly? Thank you for listening. IBM's project debater an artificial intelligence system. Arguing in support of this resolution, we should subsidize preschool. So can artificial intelligence change your mind, we will have more from this historic debate, featuring a world class human debater, and I beams newest AI system in just a moment. This is intelligence squared US. We're hosting our next debate in New York City later on this month on February twenty fifth at the symphony space theater that debate will be what we call unresolved where we bring five debaters to the stage to take on four different resolutions in one single evening. This time all five we'll be focusing on the US's Technomic Cold War with China are debaters include the original groups, Ian Bremmer, a favorite for us here at I q two also Michelle floor noy who served under President Obama MIT's. Professor. Yes. Changhong future maps, Parague Kahane and Susan Thornton. Who was a senior diplomat in the Trump administration tickets to the live debate, which includes a pre debate. Cocktail reception are still available. Visit IQ to US dot org to buy yours or text the letters I q and the number two two seven nine seven nine seven nine and you'll get a link sent right to you. I'm John donavan, and this is intelligence squared US. And usually our debates involve two teams of two debaters each experts in their field. But for this special debate, we are presenting an historic event the first ever public debate with project debater, the newest artificial intelligence system from IBM both the human debater and the system were given only fifteen minutes to present their opening arguments. Neither IBM's project debater nor her opponent Harish had access to the internet while preparing these remarks a true, I on intelligence, squared US. Now here is international debate champion Harish to regime, presenting his opening argument parish is arguing against the resolution. We should subsidize pre-schools will. Thank you very much everybody. It's a pleasure to be here for this historic event. And it certainly was a pleasure to listen to project debate. There was a lot of information in that speech and motor fax and lots of figures. The problem though, is the reality of subsidizing preschools is one which does not deal with the underlying problems in society. It is one which often makes those wis and in the end is very little more than a politically motivated giveaway to members of the middle class. Let me start by examining the main claim from project debater, I think project beta suggest something very intuitive. That if we believe preschools are good in principle, surely it is with giving money. To subsidize those. But I don't think I've ever enough of a justification for subsidies. Why is that the case because there are multiple things which are good for society that could be in countries like the United States increased investment in healthcare, which would often also have returns for education, which he always CD would also note is probably very beneficial to deal with poverty, it would be improving to SRI education to allow people more access to social mobility or given the reality of undefended schools trying to improve secondary education. My point here is not about all of those things are necessarily better than preschools. But simply cannot be alone as fishing argument for project debate to claim that there are some benefits the question is more subtle than that. What is the question then item the criterion of whether or not we should then distribute subsidy should be Austin to based on two quakes? The fist is is. Underprovided and unconsumed of the status quo. I'll talk more about that in a moment and second does it actually help those individuals who are the most harm by society. Why exactly doesn't preschool or subsidization of preschool do that I wanna make to claims unto this? The Pfister's many middle cost parents and many people from up incomes already send children to preschool, this is because they value many things which project beta noted, but why is that a problem because subsidization cost an awful lot of money, and that is money, which is picking giving people particularly members of the middle class at above money to do things which I would do otherwise why is that so damaging given the realities of opportunity cost here. The problem is that you are taking money from all taxpayers to help those individuals with any society who are already often the best off. And I don't think that is principally. Justified as a way of the state, distributing its resources. But the second thing I want to claim is that even when you subsidize preschools, it doesn't mean that all individuals go, and this I think was the fallacy from what we heard from project debater. Yes, you could make it slightly more accessible that individuals to attend preschool that doesn't mean those individuals who are as poor as project debate seems to want the teams to care about people are going to be those who have the ability to send their child to preschool, though, stupi individuals who will be priced out because of the realities of the market and these individuals now face just one exclusion, but the double exclusion that tax money money, which could be used to otherwise help them that children and myriad other ways is no longer going to them, and they are not able to gain from the benefits of it. In the end when it comes to question of subsidization, there was always going to be trade-offs and that needs to be accepted, given the reality of those. Trade-offs? The question is who do you help and the people you don't help those individuals who have a poorest you give unfair and exaggerated gains to those individuals in the middle costs. And that is why at the end of this debate. We don't think that you should subsidize preschools. Thank you. Before we move onto the rebuttal round. I just want to summarize some of what we've heard we have heard project debater make the argument in support of the resolution, we should subsidize pre-schools by saying that this is not just a matter of finance. But it's also a moral and political issue relates to a duty to support some of the most vulnerable people in society that preschool itself, subsidized or not has a broader impact on the lives of individuals citizens. She cited a research that says that investment in preschool results without doubt in maximally successful lives. It increases income, and it also helps to overcome several of the disadvantages of poverty. There's better health outcomes. There are actually decreases in crime, and she cites a number of studies to back this up. Also, she an -ticipant did her opponent probably making the argument that subsidies would serve one group at the. Spence of another. She also threw in a few jokes along the way. And was surprisingly charming human sounding. I would say, but also charming and humane sounding was the human on the stage Irish Nadarajah on he argued against the resolution that we should subsidize preschools he said that basically project debaters argument does not deal really in addressing the underlying problems that she was arguing that preschool claims to solve that too often subsidies for preschool function as a politically motivated give away to the middle class that there are other programs out there that deserve support that does not mean that preschool does not, but the idea of putting preschool, I head of the line for government resources and taxpayer dollars is a questionable act. In fact, speaking of question, he said, the whole question is much more subtle than project debater was stating he questions, whether in fact, preschool might actually harm those it is middle class. Families already are taking advantage of preschool. They're paying it for for themselves. So they would be paying for it already. But now these families would be gaining subsidies to do things that they would be doing otherwise, and this obviously diminishes resources available to everyone. So those are roughly the arguments we're going to give each of the debaters a few more minutes to prepare for their rebuttal round. But before we do I just wanted to bring to the stage one of the designers of project debater Noam him who is your out of Tel Aviv Haifa, Israel, but welcome to the stage. I just wanted to take one minute since we're in this phase where over there and here there's a process going on through artificial intelligence trying to figure out what to say next. What does that involve? So I will try to explain briefly, what is happening under the hood soul debater as we speak. He's now trying to propel deadly Bothell speech, and as we know. No in debate that he bought them is the most challenging part. So the system is starting by using Watson, speech recognition capabilities in order to understand the words that Harish was using. And then he tries to Sigmund these wards into meaningful sentences, and the next step is really to capture the gist of the speech, my hurry. Okay. So the system he's basically using collection of artificial intelligence engines in order to first of all somehow unanticipated what Harish will stay and then determine whether indeed he was stating these arguments explicitly or implicitly, and then generate some kind of a meaningful to the bathroom to that. It sounds like an amazing challenge and you'll be back after the third round with your colleagues to discuss this in more detail, but I just wanted to get a look ahead. So thanks very much. No thank. So now we move onto round two rebuttals. And again each side will have four minutes to respond to the opponent's arguments. I with her rebuttal project debater arguing for the resolution, we should subsidize preschool. Thank you again for starters. I sometimes listen to opponents in wonder, what do they want would they prefer poor people on their doorsteps begging for money would they live well with poor people without heating and running water. Giving opportunities to the less fortunate should be a moral obligation of any human being, and it is a key role for the state to be clear, we should find the funding for preschools and not rely on luck or market forces. This issue is too important to not have a safety net next. I think that how he should not tell John raise the following issue. There are more important things than preschools to spend money on the state budget is a big one, and there is room in it to subsidize preschools and invest in other. Fields. Therefore, the idea that there are more important things to spend on his irrelevant because the different subsidies are not mutually exclusive. I believe the following example from a related field will explain what I'm trying to say about subsidy policies research shows that childcare subsidies to low income parents enable those parents to enter and remain in the workforce to be clear. My intention is not to leave a suitcase full of money for everyone to grab it will. We are talking about limited targeted and helpful mechanism as in this example, next I will discuss three issues which explain why we should subsidize pre-schools I will demonstrate that preschool education, improves children's development. I will also discuss issues related to the claim that attending preschool help students succeed. And Finally, I will raise points associated with how preschool can prevent future crime about children preschool is very important and essential step in child's life research into. Cates that access to quality preschool can provide a boost for children that will influence their success for the rest of their lives. Senior leaders at Saint Joseph's r c primary school say that nursery will help give children the best art to their education. There is clear evidence that high quality nurseries led by graduate nursery. Teachers are among the most decisive ways to prevent children, particularly poor boys from falling behind next students equality, preschool education is essential for laying the foundations for successful learning, including transition to full time school and future school success in December twenty fifteen researchers at Duke University concluded that investing in preschool helps both students and educators. Long-term they found that students who enroll in preschool education are thirty nine percent less likely to be placed in special education programs as third graders of the one thousand ten registered voters surveyed sixty one percent, consider a high quality priest. School experience very important to a student's later success. And twenty two percent said it is somewhat important Lasley crime. Preschool is an effective tool for keeping kids in school and out of jail while reducing the amount of crime in our neighborhoods. It is an effective crime prevention strategy, a substantial body of research shows that high quality preschool education is key in preparing children to succeed in school and career training and helps reduce the enormous financial costs of remedial work delinquency and crime. Studies have shown that quality preschool leads to better academic performance throughout life, higher earning and less criminal activity. They show that high quality preschool boosts high school graduation rates and children who do not attend high quality preschool are far more likely to commit violent crimes to recap. This rebuttal speech. I argue that preschool education, improves children's development that attending preschool help students succeed. And lastly, the preschool can prevent future crime. Let me wrap up this speech in a way that I hope you can relate to advocating welfare is like offering a hand to someone who fell it's basic human decency. Therefore, I think the motion should stand. We should subsidize preschools that concludes my speech. Thanks for listening. And now the round to rebuttal from hurry with Rajon who is arguing again against the resolution, we should subsidize preschool. So I want to stop by noting or project debater, and I agree on we agree. That poverty is terrible. It is terrible. When individuals do not have running water. It is terrible. When they struggle to make ends meet and they are struggling to feed. Their family is terrible. When they cannot get health care to cover that child to even provide them the basics they need in life. That is all terrible. And those are all things we need to address. And none of those are addressed just because you are going to subsidize preschool, why is that the case project debater raises an interesting claim when she notes that maybe the state has the budget to do all the good things. Maybe the state has the budget provide healthcare, maybe it has the budget provide welfare payments. Maybe it has the. To provide running water as well as preschool, I would love to live in that world. But I don't think that is the world we live in. I think we live in a world whether a real constraints of what governments can spend money on. And even if those are not real those nonetheless, political while you have people constantly talking about the size of government, debt and deficits, and who will be opposed to spending more and more money. Why does that matter because in the real world both in terms of the practicalities of the amount of different good programs? We have and would like to spend money on and in the real world wanna political level. You cannot always spend more and more money. Just because something is good. We do need to make choices and why then is preschool be bad choice to start spending money on now project. The beta had a what of evidence all of which were saying that preschool leads to other good outcomes. Now, I would. I one to note is I don't think that's comparative with the other potential projects we could put in place, but let's ignore that argument for a moment. Why else do I not think those arguments will typically convincing? I don't think it's particularly convincing because I'm not sure that subsidies even help those individuals back project beta things that we should be helping note time and time again project beta said, high quality preschools can lead to huge improvements on individuals lives. Maybe, but I'm not sure if you massively increased the number of people go to preschool, they are all going to be the ones go into a high quality preschools. I don't think that just because you subsidize it those individuals who are the poorest of those individuals who can be able to whose parents are still going to be able to spend the money and the time necessary to give that child a chance at preschool project beta notes that may be high quality preschools were reduce crime, maybe but so would other measures in terms of crime prevention. And that again presupposes that these all high quality and the subsidy alone allows people to go, and this is the core point I want to make Barrick in mind that it is a huge subsidy for the middle class back realistic budget constraints. We have means the money can be spent better elsewhere. But the final thing I want to note is maybe you believe all of this empirical evidence about the value of preschool. I would note that that is probably at least somewhat flawed because what had actually picks up is that those individuals who are middle claws will often send their children to preschool right now, and they have plenty of advantages. So I'm not even sure preschools decisive one. But he's a reason why many students and may not even be good that from an early age either that preschool doesn't teach your child anything was pushing that child to Lynn and a competitive environment at the age of three or four when you're learning that other child is potentially better than you. When you re. Realize you want necessarily talented someone else that you'd psychological damage for many children. May mean the preschools actively harmful at the end. Even if you believe that preschool is good it isn't the way and where we should spend the money particularly given that the subsidy to the middle cost. I'm very happy to oppose. Thank you. Paris not to resign. Arguing against the resolution. We should subsidize preschools harsh is head of economic risk at aka e international and a world class debate champion this debate is an historic event, featuring IBM's newest advance in artificial intelligence of computer that debates a debater IBM's project debater is an artificial intelligence system. A distant relative of the Watson supercomputer developed over the past seven years parish to Rajon is an international debate champion his opponent for this special edition of intelligence squared US is IBM's project debater both debaters harsh and the system were given just fifteen minutes after learning of the topic to prepare their opening remarks. Neither had access to the internet. Nothing in the debate was scripted. So it can change your mind coming up on intelligence squared. US we'll talk with some of the researchers who spent years developing the artificial intelligence behind IBM's project debater just for this event. I'm John John. This is intelligence squared US. This is intelligence squared US. I'm John donavan can artificial intelligence, change your mind. This debate is an historic event, featuring IBM's newest advanced artificial intelligence, a debater a computer that debates. So we are about to move onto the closing around. Those will be two minute closing statements by each of the two debaters, but we've for they do and in order to give them a few moments to prepare. I just wanna return briefly to the subject of something close to my heart. And that's the mission of intelligence squared US. I've moderated one hundred seventy debates all the twenty two of them. And I'm a journalist by profession, but we live in a time. When journalism is under challenge. And also when the discourse amongst citizens is not at its best. Let's say and the reason I'm I'm so pleased to be part of intelligence squared is, what is mission embraces the notion. That argument is not a bad thing argument is a good thing. When argument is done well, and by done, well, what we mean is to do it in a setting that is respectful as respectful of individuals respectful of the idea that there may well be a good argument on the other side that needs. 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And I think when Darrow Gill got up here and said that where they're thinking of in terms of artificial intelligence that the basis to help us think better and to help us with critical reasoning we get that because we're in the same mission, essentially, so I hope that didn't sound like a commercial because I actually believe in as really are passionate. And we're delighted to be here. But it's time to move onto round three and round three are closing statements by each debater intern. And they will be gin in support of the resolution, we should subsidize preschool here again is project debater. Thanks for this final opportunity to speak out in this debate. And thanks, not tyrod John one might say that this conversation can serve no purpose anymore, but I feel differently allow me to start with a brief rebuttal among other things. I think Mr. nut town Rajon suggested that preschools should not be subsidised because this will reduce their quality. I would like to offer a different view. I disagree with my opponent subsidizing preschools will have no negative effect on their quality. If anything the opposite is true. One of many reasons is that subsidizing attracts more skilled and qualified people to the field improving. The quality of preschools for all here is a final summary of my arguments today my opponent claim that preschools are harmful. I believe my arguments suggested that the benefits outweigh the potential disadvantages. I touched upon three issues children students and crime. Specifically, I noted that. School education, improves children's development. In addition. I suggested that attending preschool help students succeed and a final point to consider as preschool can prevent future crime. When this debate just started. I said that we will talk about financial issues we did. And I am convinced that in my speeches I supplied enough data to justify support for preschools at the end of the day, the benefits welfare provides outweigh the disadvantages welfare helps the most important segments in society, the underprivileged the week the children if we want to have a better society than we must invest in those who are less fortunate. Finally, in the words of British politician and writer Benjamin Disraeli power has only one duty to secure the social welfare of the people. We should subsidize pre-schools, thanks for your attention. And the last word going to hurry arguing in his closing statement against the resolution. So I think we disagree on far less than it may seem because we agree that the people we should care about are the underprivileged the children, those individuals who are weak that is what project debater said herself. But the problem is not that preschool is necessarily harmful. I concede in the vast majority of cases, it is much better for an individual to go to preschool than not. But it's the reality that what this policy is is a huge huge subsidy primarily to the middle class and not to those individuals who are the most vulnerable with the most underprivileged, and they'd most is advantage. D-? Why is that the case it is the case because what we said from the start is you cannot fund everything I think this is simply. Empirically true, and you have to make choices and you have to make trade offs the problem with preschool in that context is twofold. The first is not a lot of our money goes to individuals who have sent their child to preschool. Anyway, those individuals from the middle class all of those benefits exist on either side of the world. But for those individuals who are more vulnerable. This is first billions and billions of dollars which is probably not going to them and largely going to individuals in the middle class. And that's why the tradeoff better help that way. So the trade of for individuals have running water one of the problems project debater identified with people who are poor. But that is a real trader for those people. But second often, those are the parents who still even when there are subsidies will struggle to send that child to good quality preschools, the struggle to send a charter good quality preschools because they don't even have the money for what? Is left though struggle to send their child to preschool. They don't value the amount of effort and time they have to put into it, though struggle to send their children to preschools or when they do it probably will be the wiz preschools which exists and. Yes, quality across the board may not fall. But in some cases, it will. And those poor individuals will probably be stuck in those at the end of this debate. I don't think the project debater has helped those individuals she identifies as the most important, but in reality has hit them. Thank you. And that concludes round three and the argument phase of this debate. So we're on our way to making history here, I want to invite to the stage two of the two of the scientists who have been working for literally years at creating the artificial intelligence that you just saw. So why don't you come up to the state? You have already met Noam sonum norm is the principal investigator of project debater and also run of the worldwide manager harsh, you know, but I haven't officially shaking your hand on the stage. So let's do that the first person I want to go to actually on this harsh this experience of fighting with this thing. Rhetorically what really struck me is the potential value for project debater when synthesized with a human being and that the amount of knowledge, which is able to cross and more than that. Obviously, you can get some knowledge just by searching for it. But able to contextualized it and place it as this information tells us this which I found to be really useful. So all the studies from the from those countries of those quotations will all just really interesting to me because it was nicely. Phrased. And it was contextualized as to what the purpose of it is. And I think if you take some of those skills, and you add about to human being which can use it in slightly more subtle ways. I think that can be incredibly powerful. And I think that's what I got from. It was fascinating to listen to because I can see a lot of the potential at has just in terms of the knowledge, and they built he the contextualized that knowledge better than. Most human beings. You are a very good sport. No, no. It was a parent. I think throughout the two debaters at different skills and different talents different advantages on the advantage side. What does debate or have going for her that harsh could not possibly match? So they have very different Stein's. I believe in a different set of skills, but I would like to start by again, telling Halley, she's really superb debater. It was really amazing to hear you speak today. And. And what is interesting to see us that. I think in terms of a tall called skills. The system is still not at the level of a debater like how ish dot said. The system is capable of pinpointing relevant evidence within a massive collection of MSN. So about ten billion sentences that are in the memory of the system and the system need to very quickly pinpoint these little pieces of taxed that are relevant to the topic Argumenty in nature and hopefully support our side of the debate. And then somehow glued together into a meaningful now active, which is very very difficult for for a machine to renew United. We're talking earlier, and you were making the point that while this is an interesting exercise win or lose. You see the the good that this thing offers not being to win a game. But to help us figure things out what? Do you mean by that? What I mean is that the vision behind project Vader is how do we develop technology, and I think Jerez talk to that the potential of AI and humans doing something together that brings the skills of both of them into something that's more than one of them. I think it's not a question of is going to be better at debating humans. That's not really an interesting goal. The goal of this demonstration the goal of the belting. This technology was to set something that's challenging and far away. And by that enabled us to develop technologies of how do you find all that information within a massive text? How do you organize that? How do you bring it to a position that it's justifiable by unions in order to drive better decision making more quickly for humans? So really, I think what's going to be a win here. As people come out of this room and say, why am I can see that? This interaction is enriching me and enriching the way I can make decisions in the future. I mentioned before the intelligence squared. We we've set things up so that by its nature, a debate presents an audience with at least, two points of view on something and while the audience votes, and we declare a winner the reality is that there are two teams debating because there actually are two valid coherent arguments from from each side. And it's not as Eero something. It's more that they complement and they add to one another does that relate also to your vision for debater. Yeah. I think if you think about grand challenges in the past, and they I these were often cases where there is either a factual question, there's a right or wrong. There's a clear winner when you think of debate. This is something where the winners not clear and the whole question does have two points. There isn't one right answer technology like project debater, it could debate both sides. So they can very quickly help you understand both sides of problem bring you all the pros and cons. So you have a better a wider view of the topic. And then can make a better decision. No looks also. For the sake of transparency. But also, I think it sheds light on the capacity. Let's talk about the way in which this debate was framed to give debate or shop at this. So as an example in intelligence squared debate, we do around where I ask challenging questions, and I tried to bring up points of contention. Well, we didn't do that round could debater have survived something like that this point not not at this stage. But I think in principle lease our capabilities that we can develop, but we needed somehow to train the challenge when when we started to make progress because it is worse while noting why this is so difficult, and let me give you just one example, we will sitting here for twenty to twenty five minutes will listen to a valuable and interesting discussion between man and machine which is not an ordinary experience. And the system was very consistent. Arguing in favor of its own signed and to us this may seem very natural. But actually for machine to automatically understand that these particular arguments are supporting the topic and not contesting the topic is very very difficult. And the fact that the system was consistent in its arguments for the entire debate means that in this southern question the system was able to achieve close to one hundred percent accuracy. So we needed to frame the farm and focus on the things that we can achieve in a few years. What you have fairing too is perhaps the next stage. So, but as you pointed out what did tonight in by by knowing what it side was and then recognizing among its billions of sentences. What selections would support the side that it was on? Can you explain in thirty seconds or less how that works? So the system is starting using this huge collection of sentences to find these little pieces of taxed and then glue them together in a meaningful manner. This is one part of the story. The other part is the system using a unique collection of a more principled arguments that are relevant to the topic. We heard some of them during the rebate touching on the core issue of welfare state, and when it is justified to use a subsidy or not and finally is listening, comprehension part. So the system was listening to hurry. She's speaking for four minutes raising quite subtle and nuanced arguments and was still trying to get the gist of that and make a meaningful expand. I think most of the time the response was fair not always, but this is expected in. So this is how it works. All right. I think we may have the results in my correct? Okay. So to remind you one more time you voted before you heard the arguments you voted after. You heard the arguments and at intelligence squared we deliver victory to the side whose numbers have moved up the most in percentage point terms. So let's look at how this vote went on the resolution subsidized preschool before the debate in pulling the slide audience here in San Francisco seventy nine percent of you agreed with the resolution. Thirteen percent disagreed. Eight percent were undecided on the second vote debater who was arguing for the resolution. Its I seventy nine percent second vote with sixty two percent. That means it lost seventeen percentage points on the other side harsh not Rajon his first. But was thirteen percent is second vote was thirty percent. He pulled up seventeen percentage points that is it higher is not to Rajon arguing against the resolution, subsidized preschool declared our winner. Congratulations to him. But but really this. This is amazing. And I think regardless we made history tonight because project debater held her own and one euro back. Definitely, oh, and we had the second vote. The question was which of the two debaters better enriched, your knowledge, let's see what that number is project. Debater better enrich the knowledge of the audience on that side. So a little bit of a split decision. Been a pleasure for us to be part of this at intelligence, squared US. So thank you everybody. This intelligence squared US. Debate was recorded live at the IBM think conference in San Francisco. Robert Rosencrantz is our chairman Lee Matthau is chief content officer Amy craft is director of operations and production. Shale Mira is manager of aditorial operations Aaron Dalton and rob christianson. Are the radio producers Damon Whitmore is the audio engineer? And I'm your host, John.

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#SHUARS REVIEW [EMIRATES CUP] Feat. @Angeell_Gabriel

Up Gunners NG

09:40 min | 4 months ago

#SHUARS REVIEW [EMIRATES CUP] Feat. @Angeell_Gabriel

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Episode 18_Udita Saklani

Executive Moms' Stories

25:59 min | 5 months ago

Episode 18_Udita Saklani

"The originals hello friends who welcome to the PODCAST. Executed. Mom Stories. This is not an ordinary business podcast but this show is with ordinary people who are making an extraordinary foods. The working moms who are juggling to keep a balance at walking today on executed Mon- stories with us at Lonnie was I started with joint family. Three legged family has a modern bothered wall that ran rent and have the money is an ingenious by profession underwriter by passion she blogs at with love sue and her blocks are all about daily life. Learnings adventures unexperienced with Habibie books. She's a single parent and modifiers dotto. She holds ten years expedient and currently working with high. Oh did thought it's a pleasure to have you know podcast today. How you doing? I'm doing good. Can you tell underscores who is I concise saizen. I have been almost a decade in my career. In fact they're just computed benders. Just like every adult looking of you know I I love Managing be Box of my life which managing worked as well as taking all the IMF. Good bannon and When I was going through the process of separation and By emotional stress and drama. I started I think which is when all you know my of blogging career and kind of kicked off and then it has the of just went off like crazy and I am happy that you know I thought advising because look it has my buying and it helped in away. Which helped me I would come back. dramatic situations and It has helped me in the long way. And what are the topics that you usually right on? Though initially when I stopped at all it will go more slowly or you know what I was going through at that point of the dime so primarily. I started with writing on those betting things You know For by those. Who are doing it. 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No longer in your expectations we ought supervisors and afford David on defense because You know everything goes hand in has one thing I would like to say. Here is the fact that Stock of blaming everybody long art. Any pain has because Bed We'll be certain point nine bed your side we end up writing for bullpen. Fifteen minutes off when you land up in that we think of the grinding me. But what is important? Is that You will taking care of yourself as a person. You are managing more junior that games and just kick it off. It was great interacting with you. Thank you so much for taking time. Thank you so much pleasure. Hello working moms. Learnt Pride is and start setting expectations around you stay tuned to execute of mom stories. Would love to hear from you for any feedback ought to be guest on our show. You can reach us that mom stories and Jimmy. Lot on executive mom stories facebook page.

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John Duval Gluck, Jr. Pt. 1: Santa Claus Man

Con Artists

49:12 min | 11 months ago

John Duval Gluck, Jr. Pt. 1: Santa Claus Man

"On December eleventh nineteen thirteen thirty five year old John Duval gluck junior and a handful of volunteers. Stead in trepidation. The growing pile of Christmas letters sitting in front of them. They were in the small back office of Henkel's Chop House a steakhouse in the heart of New York City between the typewriters. The makeshift desks where volunteers work and the letters themselves space was tight and gluck was panicking three days before he'd volunteered to answer letters written to the North Pole by the needy children of New York with gifts and treats the press latched onto the story. Thrilled that the big apple finally had its very own Santa Claus but in that moment gluck feared he had set himself up for failure. His newly founded Santa Claus Association lacked the resources the Manpower and the money they needed to complete the operation on the surface gluck dismay seemed entirely l. e. selfless downtrodden at the thought of letting children down but in reality gluck was playing a long game and one with much highest stakes. If he played his cards right he would be making money. Hand over fist in unregulated donations nations. But first he had to convince the people of New York that his association was worth donating to that they could accomplish exactly what they promised to make this Christmas. The best these children had ever seen off to that the city would be his for the taking welcome to con artists. A podcast original. I'm alstead and every week. We peel back. The layers of history's greatest deceptions and tell the stories of the hustlers swindlers windless and fraudsters. That orchestrated them. I'll dive into that psychology breakdown that tricks and explain why anyone might fool. For a con- you can find episodes of con artists and all other parkas originals. For Free on spotify. Or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream cornutus for free on spotify hi just open the APP and type Catis in the search bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network. And if you enjoyed today's episode the best way eight to help is to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening? It really does help us this week. We have ring John Gluck junior otherwise otherwise known as the Santa Claus Man we explore how glocks desire for fame and wealth led him to abandon his business ventures and establish establish himself as a reputable good Samaritan. We'll see how in just a few short years he built a successful charitable organization laying the foundation for what was actually a massive fraud operation next week. We'll track how gluck expanded his donor base and started bringing in thousands of dollars of unregulated donations for a Christmas building in the center of New York City. Finally we learn how the Commissioner of Public Welfare ultimately exposed gluck for the fraud. He was praised as a generous Duga. John Donavan gluck junior volunteered to raise money. For New York's walks needy children and onto the thousands of letters they sent to Santa Claus. It was a huge undertaking and one. That gluck led outs of the goodness of his heart or at least that's what he told the public. What they didn't know was that gluck who created the perfect cover for a seasonal con with his newly founded Santa Claus Association taking advantage of the holiday spirit the flooded the city every December gluck brought in thousands of dollars of donations for needy children and eventually pocketed most most of the cash for himself he spent fifteen years? As New York's own bona fide Santa Claus before he was exposed. I and the Association dissolved quite fittingly. Glut was born on Christmas Day in eighteen. Seventy seven for the first two years of his life. He was raised in Brooklyn until the success of his father's customs brokerage business allowed the family to move to Westfield Field Newjersey. His father expected his oldest son to follow him into the brokerage business but gluck had larger aspirations. Even us a child the oldest of five brothers he took on the role of entertainers. From a young age. He was constantly making up stories and playing thank pranks on his other siblings. Though he didn't know exactly what he wanted to do with his future. He always knew that he wanted to be someone important. Important gluck had a comfortable happy childhood but some of his favorite memories were of his holidays with his family. The glocks always made these celebrations into big occasions at a time when holidays ones observed with the same fervor as today in fact up until the mid eighteen hundreds partying on Christmas Day was frowned upon. It was seen strictly as a religious occasion. It wasn't until eighteen. Seventy that the. US government declared Christmas a national holiday and its popularity grew through with each year but the glocks were ahead of the curve. There Christmases were always large large and cheerful and they often invited those who were less fortunate to celebrate both the holiday and John. Junior's birthday with them gluck remained close with his family into adulthood and despite his more colorful ambitions he joined his father's customs brokerage business when he was twenty ninety four years old that year in nineteen. Oh Two glocks father. Renamed the company John D. Glut and son locking in his fate as a broker for years. His goals of notoriety remained on the back burner but in nineteen nineteen o seven when Gluck was twenty nine. Everything changed that year on Halloween. glocks father died suddenly only leaving the responsibilities of the business on the young man shoulders. It was a devastating blow to gluck the hopes he had of breaking free from the business and making a name for himself died with his father now. The burdens of the company were his and and his alone but as he eased into the role of business owner. He soon found another opportunity to live. The life he'd imagined gluck was extremely aware of the role that the press had in influencing public opinion and though his work in customs brokerage wasn't especially Shauwie tantalizing. He found a way to make it. More appealing gluck decided the best way to grow. His business was to publicize size himself one afternoon. Block could a call from a British client. A company called. Dick Kerr works. The the clients confided a scandal story. The executives daughter had just eloped across the pond to New York City with one of the company's employees. Yes it was a disaster and the executive was desperate for someone to pin down the two lovebirds because Clark handled the company's as imports in America the executive pleaded for his help asking that he finds a couple and send them back to the U K. Gluck new you. There wasn't much he could do say to change the minds of two consenting adults but he tracked him down anyway and delivered the message and in the the process. He made sure to alert the press of the outrageous story. Foreigners forbidden love and a runaway marriage. Surely this story would sell big and soon. His efforts paid off when the New York Times eventually ran the article. Dick Kerr works. Suddenly the talk of the town and more importantly gluck name appeared in print for the first first time he was beside himself with joy. It was a new kind of feeling and elation really and he couldn't get enough enough of it. glocks impulse to leak the story to the press for his own glory as well as his future publicity. Stunts indicate indicate that he may have exhibited traits of narcissistic personality disorder and in particular the characteristics of a grandiose narcissist assest according to a study run by the University of Warsaw in Poland grandiose narcissist a more dominant and extroverted. They're vulnerable counterparts then. Most defining trait is how they explicitly see count attention from the world. A study by the Psychology Department of the University of Georgia explained that in the digital age this type of narcissism commonly compels individuals to to promote themselves aggressively on social media through constant updates and by seeking out both likes and followers in the nineteen hundreds glocks Klux. Twitter was the New York Times off to his minus success. With Dick Kerr works in April of one thousand nine hundred four other companies approach gluck with publicity requests hoping he could help them Ghana the same kind of political attention soon in addition fission to Managing John D. Gluck and son he took on freelance work including legal consulting and publicity jobs for organizations like the the Republican League and the Merchant Marine Committee gluck organized extravagant member gatherings for these companies as well as other large events it's boys making sure he received the appropriate credits impress coverage of course around the time clock expanded his publicity business. The United States postal service was wrestling with his public image with Christmas becoming more celebrated each and every year hundreds of thousands of letters addressed to Santa Claus flooded post offices across the country. The letters of course couldn't be delivered as addressed in the early twentieth century. The North Pole hadn't yet been announced as Santa's headquarters so instead kids sent their messages to destinations like ice. St Cloud Ville and behind the moon as the news of these letters spread. The general public was eager to see the children's Christmas wishes granted but despite the demand the post office didn't know what to do with them instead every year after the holidays they burned the children's nope and messages to Saint Nick and but as the first decade of the nineteen hundreds came to a close. The public. Backlash against this policy grew the. US Postal Service felt enormous pressure to find a solution to the Santa Claus problem. Finally in December of nineteen eleven postmaster General Frank Hitchcock was forced to implement a new policy. He allowed members of the public to answer the Children's letters and send the gifts but despite all the negative press not a single New Yorker stepped forward that year all the next to answer latter's not even gluck. He was intrigued when he first heard about the new policy. But in one thousand nine hundred eleven. The thirty-three-year-old was busy at the time. He was attempting to make a name for himself through his new publicity work. So for two years. The Children's letters satin satin post offices across the nation unopened and unanswered during that time gluck moved. His offices is to downtown Manhattan and slowly expanded his business network among his new contacts. Was George till you in eighteen. Ninety seven seven till you open the popular steeplechase amusement park on Coney Island and in one thousand nine hundred thirteen was preparing for its eleventh annual Mardi Gras Festival. The highlight of the festival was a bullfight. The first one in New York City it was a controversial sport until you needed a publicist to ensure the stadium was full. Enter thirty five year old. John D.. Gluck junior he took out newspaper ads. Promising potential attendees three BIST bulls charging brave matadors in a breathtaking spectacle. So he arranged for reporters to attend the show and spread the word in newspapers across the city members of the humane society and the Society for the prevention of Cruelty to animals protested the fight but gluck assured them and the audiences that neither the bulls northern matadors. The doors would be injured in fact he advertised. The event as completely bloodless by September benign nineteen thirteen. The day of the event he'd managed to sell almost every ticket according to Alex Pajamas biography on John. Gluck the eleventh annual Mardi Gras festival kicked off without a hitch. The King and Queen of the festival actors. John Bunny Johnnie and Lillian Walker led a parade of giant show stopping floats as the attendees watched in all liquor and beer flowed freely as people play games eight cheap boardwalk food and took in the sights as the clock struck nine thirty pm. AM The crowds gathered excitedly in the specially constructed arena where the bullfight would take place the matador and Rick as Roma's Oh bless stepped into the ring with the intention of giving the audience a show. Unfortunately the bull wasn't as vicious us as gluck. Headlines claimed so robocalls improvised he hit the beast on the nose to provoke a reaction Rove less and the audience got more than they bargained for the bull charge the matador who dodged him easily but the enraged animal kept running straight into the wall of the arena crashing into the barricades separating the viewers from the ring. Carnival goers ran terrified the impact not bowl unconscious cutting his nose in the process. Doctors has ran to examine the bloodied beast while reporters fired questions at a stunned gluck but before he could pull himself together the cops will already putting him in handcuffs. The police charged. Both gluck. And the event's organizers with baiting animals and and animal cruelty and though they were let go the next day with just a slap on the wrist and few finds the newspapers were malicious headlines across New York reported. How gluck the events press agent were shamefully arrested? He was finally back. Can the newspapers like he'd always wanted just not as he planned. But in a few short months he would come up with a scheme. That would not only clear his name but have the whole city praising his legacy one that would finally give him the attention he believed he so deserved and a stream of unregulated revenue. Ripe for the taking coming up Gluck jumps on a new opportunity to make a name for himself. Cornutus is supported by better help online counseling. Life can be stressful sometimes. Very stressful it can even become overwhelming a welcoming at times. If you're at the point where you feel like you're losing control of things and you're not sure what to do. Reach out to better help. 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Meanwhile meanwhile the New York City post office collected hundreds of children's letters to Santa Claus with no clue what to do with them. The Post Office office put out one last coal anyone willing to step up to answer the letters from children in need and gluck saw a new way to get his name out into the world through a 'cause no one could find fault with he wrote to New York's postmaster US Master Edward M Morgan requesting the privilege of responding to the letters with the help of a few volunteers Morgan who had no the candidates or options agreed to let block takeover Santa Claus operation. He was eager to get the clamoring public off his his back and let someone else step into the limelight. But playing Santa Claus wasn't quite as easy as donning a red suit and white beard before gluck several other charitable men and women tried to handle letters from their cities underprivileged children. They each ran into the same complications. Many of the kids over exaggerated their families need taking money and gifts chiefs from those who were more desperate but more concerning was the fact that the charities that took on this mission often operated without oversight which made it easy for unscrupulous individuals to take advantage as a result any new attempts upset handling the Santa Claus letters were met with healthy skepticism glocks many years as a business owner made him a Mazda Pasta at logistics and organisation. He told Morgan he would apply these same skills to the holiday letters. The system Gluck pitch to postmaster. Morgan was simple. I he and his volunteers confirmed the letters address to ensure that the post office had an accidentally sent the the mail for any real New Yorkers with the last name clause or Kringle then they checked to record of previous mailings to make sure. The child hadn't sent Renton multiple envelopes with the intention of getting more than one present. Once they verify this information the volunteers looked into the requests themselves selves. If any of the letters described alarming conditions in the house such as abuse neglect or starvation. They set them aside for the public. Charities Commission and if the requests are too grandiose one of the volunteers were sent to check out the situation at home to assess if the child eld really needed a gift donated by the public at all after the letters were approved gluck steam then mail them over to their donors who would fulfil the children's requests by sending back gifts and messages when pitching the idea to Morgan. Gluck was sure to emphasize. Is that not a single penny went to the organization itself. All of the money went directly to those who needed it. Most most from the outside looking in it was a foolproof plan so on December eighth nineteen eighteen thirteen postmaster Morgan happily handed over five hundred letters from children all over the city to John. Clark and the conman set up shop at his friend. Poll Henkel's new steakhouse Henkel's Chop House in Herald Square. Ah Soon the press came to cover glocks operation dubbed the Santa Claus Association reporters who had belittled. I told him just three months. Prior were now singing. His praises newspapers across the city printed saccharin headlines like kitties eighties notes full of smiles and tears. FILL BAG OF MR SANTER. GLUCK GLUCK was finally getting the praise and recognition. He so oh longed for when interviewed about his motivation for answering the letters glut replied gleefully. Christmas should be a thrilling ailing day in the year for children. That's all we're trying to do is no charity about it. We are purveyors of Christmas spirit soon. John's own publicity efforts and the public's boisterous reaction to the operation turned the trickle of messages into a flood by December eleventh. The volunteers of the Center Association were fielding more than five hundred hundred new letters a day. A number Gluck separation wasn't equipped to handle while the organization does ation explicitly allstone as to send gifts to the children themselves. Many ignored this instruction instead good Samaritans Harrison's dropped presence in packages at the doorstep of Henkel's Chop House this required Klux volunteers to hand deliver the gifts to children but the dozen also also people he'd recruited wasn't nearly enough to both onset incoming letters and go knocking on doors. He was beginning to realize he was in over his head. By the end of the third day GLUCK was already looking down the barrel of another failure earlier. This would be the second enterprise in three months that ended in disaster and Gluck felt all his his new found importance slipping away that's is until he received a fateful coal from General Edwin. Augustus justice McAlpine macalpine was one of New York's wealthiest businessmen the inheritance from his family's tobacco fortune had made him a bona fide millionaire in the nineteen hundreds and with one million dollars in nineteen ten amounting to roughly twenty seven the million dollars today. This made Mr McAlpine a very rich man. Indeed but Edwin hadn't called Gluck to to provide money. He was offering manpower or other boy power. In addition to his business is exports. McAlpine was the chief scout of the American voice counts and when he read about the Santa Close Association he offered the scouts as volunteers to assist with whatever Gluck deemed necessary. John immediately accepted the proposition. Not only only did he need the extra hands but involving the boy scouts came with the additional benefit of legitimizing. His efforts and making them appear even more wholesome awesome. It was perfect. The next day McAlpine sent a few hundred scouts over. Henkel's Chop House to join the team and and Clark was back on track but it didn't solve all his problems. Glance next challenge was posted in nineteen thirteen. It cost two cents to mail a letter. which was inexpensive enough for individuals but between the awesome that was sent without stamps by poor children and the mail sent to donors from the Association? The group was looking at footing. A one thousand dollar a bill or over twenty five thousand dollars today. Gluck knew that transparency in his donations was key to earning the public's trust to get the public on his side and avoid the scrutiny for as long as possible he needed to raise money creatively so instead instead of soliciting money from private donors he went to the same journalist that I reported on his operation he published a request I to the people of New York in the peace gluck explained. What's the association? Needed the money for exactly really how much they required and why it was important. But most importantly he encouraged people to donate by emphasizing that the funds will all for charity. This empathetic appeal worked like a charm and and donors immediately came to their aid because as gluck soon realized it was easier to solicit money when it was on behalf of poor children on Christmas according to Forbes individuals give twenty four percent of their annual donations in the month between Thanksgiving giving and New Year's well above the average percentage for the rest of the year. This is likely because the cultural expectations of the holidays. Prime people pull to spend money. And according to a study in the Journal of risk and uncertainty donors are more likely to give to organizations that benefit an individual ritual recipient rather than fighting for a generic course like homelessness or hunger in the case of blocks charity the beneficiary. He was very clearly laid out a child in need who still believed in Santa Claus and the power of Christmas by Christmas Day. Nineteen Thirteen glocks. Santa Claus Association had answered. Seventeen thousand letters sent nearly only a hundred thousand dollars worth of gifts to the children of New York and only spent twelve hundred dollars to make it happen. It was was in other words. A rousing success it also gave gluck the public attention. He desperately craved. Newspapers praised his hard work and effort and soon other companies also started turning to him with new publicity requests. It's unclear whether glove stop at the Santa Claus Association with the simple intention of making a name for himself or whether he always had financial fraud in mind but eventually actually he discovered. It was the perfect opportunity to steal money from right under people's noses an opportunity that he would come to take full advantage of in the years to come one reason the con- had potential was that gluck quiz operating during a time when charities wants properly regulated. This left the public in charge of discerning which causes were reputable repeatable. and which weren't John took every opportunity to sway public opinion about the Santa Claus Association. He claimed named it was superior to other Santa Letter Organizations by design of his full proof system when interviewed which by the New York Times magazine. John said we simply offered to the people of New York. The assurance that what they gave would really reached reached the poor in its grand total in the interview. John also heavily credited his success to the American boy scouts. Further the emphasizing the organizations wholesomeness and legitimacy the article ran on January eighteen nineteen fourteen under the headline played Santa Claus and solved an economic problem and listed gluck as a publicity man and efficiency engineer. You near at his request Klux Connection to the boy scouts may have explained why he continued promoting their work long after the holidays but if anyone looked too closely they might have discovered that they were his latest publicity. Listen clients after a series of alarming scandals including an accidental shooting of a young scout. The boy scouts desperately expertly needed to bolster their own reputation and with gluck help they were able to do exactly that the catch h. He took home forty percent of the donations made to the organization. While this wasn't technically illegal illegal it was certainly morally ambiguous much like the infamous three card. Monte trick where scammer allows them to win the first couple of rounds before turning the continent Glutz self promotion won him the complete trust of the public. The people of New York happily trusted him to reprise his role as Saint Nick for next year's Christmas so once again gluck was in the need of donors but this time in order to secure his wealthy beneficiaries. He used a trick. He picked up from the honorable boy. Boy Scouts Gluck learned that awarding high profile people with honorary titles was the perfect way to both give an organization legitimacy and to expand its network in January of nineteen fourteen John. Nine hundred fellow New Yorkers Reverend friend Edward Cobbler and Ralph e Samuel Fellow broker with deep pockets and an even deeper social circle. He gave them both the title of Honorary Vice President. Eventually plug even persuaded New York Governor Enough Martin Glenn to sign on as an honorary VP. With donors in place and his network work now infiltrating. New York's upper crust gluck made the Senate Close Association and Official Year Round Organization on March twenty-fifth nineteen fourteen the thirty six year old entrepreneur formerly organized group and crystallized its purpose in a mission statement statement which declared its primary objective to be the fostering of the true Christmas spirit to bring Christmas cheer into the homes of the pool. Gluck made the holiday his top priority. He moved the offices of Jhandi. Cindy GLUCK and son to the corner of thirty Third Street and Fifth Avenue in Manhattan and renamed the space the Santa Claus Association Executive Office. He dedicated all of his free time during the offseason to promoting the organization but John and had good reason to be proactive about the association's future World War One was on the horizon and Americans now had something more important than children's unanswered Santa letters to think about and does the holidays drew closer block grew increasingly concerned. Sern about sharing the spotlight with American soldiers overseas coming up gluck spins a web of lies to maintain interest in the Santa Claus Association and involves himself in the war effort now back to the story in December of nineteen fourteen thirty six year old. John Duval Gluck Julia prepared for his second year on Cering. The Christmas letters of poor children all over New York and as the United States watched the beginnings of World War One in trepidation gluck fort desperately to keep Americans Ricans interested in his Santa Claus Association after all. He proved that he was capable of raising an incredible amounts of money in a short amount of time without having to show anyone where it was going and now that he'd made a name for himself gluck was convinced he could solicit even even more donations from the willing public. This time not just to fund the Christmas wishes of children but to line his pockets glocks seemingly selfless dedication. His work caught the attention. Of William and Frederick Motion Heim the motion in Heinz looked after the renowned hotel asda in Manhattan and generously gave gluck the use of their wine cellar for the nineteen fourteen holiday season. Gluck happily accepted the offer and the Santa Claus Association officially moved their headquarters from Henkel's Chop House to the astor. The seller was a huge and stately space which one of the volunteers affectionately dubbed the Santa Claus Cave on on December. I nine hundred thousand fourteen. The cave open for business. It was far more organized than the previous year's operation on any given day they had up to two hundred volunteers including the boy scouts who'd help the previous season in addition to his army of Helpers glocks board of Honorary Vice Presidents gave him access to both the political and business fears of New York City but he had his sights right set on a more prominent circle the world of theater and celebrities that month Gluck approach Broadway producer Albert Woods and asked him to take some children's that is to promote the Santa Claus Association then pretending adding to take woods into his confidence gluck revealed that his support was absolutely vital for the organization survival. He falsely claimed that the association was in deep financial trouble. They needed to pull an extra funds to cover the cost of postage. Otherwise why is Christmas would be cancelled. His lies worked woods agreed to donate one night of box box office receipts from his production of kick in and promoted the evening in conjunction with the Santa Claus Association. Woods also arranged arranged for two of the show's stars Josephine Victor and May Deltona to come to the Santa Claus Cave for a photo opportunity. They were joined by yet. Another celebrity King Bank otherwise known as the most photographed man in the world back at starred in Ivanhoe. and Dr Jekyll. and Mr Hyde. Two of the most popular movies of the decade. His appearance at the cave save drew dozens of reporters and photographers. Never one to miss a chance to grandstand. Gluck drew back into side and convinced him to put on a Santa outfit for another photo op. Once he got faggots on board he had the reporters and photographers follow. Follow them to the brand new post office building on Eighth Avenue. It was a chilly afternoon. But the press didn't complain. They knew they were about to witness something special as Gluck and Baggage Klein. The building steps gluck handed bag it an armful of envelopes with the words Santa Claus scrolled on the front in childish handwriting. Gluck then position the actor just so step down to frame and gave the photographers the signal. But as they lifted their cameras Gluck hesitated. For a moment. Backups fame would bring the association a whole new level of attention. Millions of New Yorkers would see the photo of their favorite celebrity and that moment glock realized he wanted. Those is on him as well. So just before the shutters clicked. He stepped back into the shot. glocks intuition proved to be correct. The photo made him a public figure in New York and expanded his connections into the theater. Circle bringing bringing even more donors into the fold and producer Albert Woods true to his word donated a grand total of two thousand dollars to the Zonta Close Association from December Twenty Second Performance of kick in off to the publicity partnership with woods the Santa Claus Association. Shen now had more support than ever before and larger coffers to fulfill the wish list of New York's children but with the looming threat of World War One hanging overhead gluck still found himself actively fighting for attention in the press. He realized that in order to keep his name in the headlines and to keep the donations pouring in he would have to involve himself in the war. Effort gluck solution was surprisingly prescient. He wanted to gather signatures from the children an and parents that were already sending letters and call for Christmas armistice lasting from Christmas Eve to December twenty eighth to get the idea of the ground he knew he needed support from the highest authority of the land. So never one to back away from a challenge which gluck set his sights on his biggest target. Yet President Woodrow Wilson. This was an intentional strategy. Another trick from the CON artists toolbox. Many scammers will try to convince their monks. That what they're selling is genuine by roping in someone the marks trust this could be an individual. They know personally or celebrity or public figure. Don't rob Shell Dini wrote about this phenomenon in his book influence when he called this tactic. SOCIAL PROOF AW Chaldean. He proposed the because humans are inherently social creatures. They rely on others for social cues and clues on how to make decisions decisions. The trick to persuading many people to buy into something is to first start by convincing one key person. Gluck hope to apply this same principle here by gaining the approval of President Wilson. He wanted to convince the whole world will to stop fighting all in the name of Christmas and Santa Claus but this bold strategy Taji didn't pay off as author Alex Palm wrote Christmas. Cheer worked fine for private charity groups but not naught is officially US policy where the belligerent countries might misconstrue a cool for an armistice. The federal government responded to glocks absurd Sir request with the definitive no but glock remained undeterred employing the same strategy that had been in so successful for him the year before he turned once again to the press gluck told newspapers that he had the signatures of a million children asking for peace on the frontlines. He also reached out to American embassies overseas with the same sentimental. A mental story by complete coincidence Pope Benedict the fifteenth also called for Christmas armistice just two days after gluck went to the press it was yet another example of a major public figure standing behind Klug except that this time he managed to get the pope support without even trying but the idea was still met with derision. No one could fathom the the idea of two armies putting down their guns over the holidays the countries it will refused and official ceasefire. Gluck was disappointed that his cool for peace wasn't taken seriously. But shockingly the soldiers on the front lines at the same idea though. They had no access to newspapers and one's aware of the armistice Gluck was proposing thing they staged that own. They acted independently deliberately disobeying orders from their homelands. On December twenty fifth nineteen fourteen on glocks thirty seventh birthday. Both German and allied soldiers lay down their weapons. They crossed the border into no man's land to greet one another sing carols and exchange food food and gifts. It was truly a Christmas. Miracle Gluck wasn't responsible at all the soldiers actions of course but in typical narcissistic fashion. He tried to take credit for the armistice. Anyway the Santa Claus Association put out a press statement claiming Mister Gluck was the first man to enter a plea for a Christmas armistice. A suggestion that was favourably entertained by high British officials and cool to the attention of His Majesty King George the fifth the publicity elicited from the Christmas armistice put the Santa Claus Association on the map in a whole new way gluck had already earned the cities trust maiden name self as a charitable Samaritan and established a reliable track record. If anyone had doubts about wants him when he first started they were certainly appeased by the end of his second Christmas. All of his hard work gave Dave John Duval gluck junior access to thousands of dollars of donations from the hard working citizens of New York. And and now it was time for the real con to begin. Thanks for listening to con artists. We'll be back next week with Paul to on John Locke Junior we'll follow the holiday scammer as he solicits money for a brand new skyscraper dedicated to the spirit of Christmas. We will also learn about how his blatant please please for donations. drew the attention. And the ire of Commissioner Byrd S. Cola and the circumstances that led to the association's nations demise for more information on John Duval junior amongst the many sources we use we found the Santa Claus Man by Alex Palmer extremely extremely helpful to our research. You can find old episodes of con artists and all other podcasts originals. For Free on spotify not only does spotify already. 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2019 Surprise Episode  Happy Holidads

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2019 Surprise Episode Happy Holidads

"You're the kind of dad who wins ugly sweater contests in July. Then this is podcast log cast for you and we are the ugly sweater of podcast us. Just can't take your eyes and ears off sweet or bad to the dad where the podcast celebrating suburban life and the holidays along with coach. Randy Tom Adam. De Happy Holidays to coach and happy holidays to you. The Listener. Happy Holidays everybody. Out of the surprise a special treat people have been asking. When are you coming coming back on? My commute is not the same and we we ask and answer. Yeah we're we're asked and answered. We're answering the call. We're giving you an episode. We Care Care very deeply about our listeners and to be honest I think we missed doing this for did I missed you man Mischa you know what I think. Is that people you give at them and and you give and we give till it hurts till it hurts. You know we do after that. Get more we give some more. Yeah so who knows. This is something very different. 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So you gotTa Conduct Brent Bob. Becky's Ben Renovate packing his experiment. It's at Bourbon Dot Com. And I'M GONNA use my own company to her so rapidly to have her We got a special special treat for listeners. Little it's called Happy Holiday Holiday Ads Holiday Hassi DADS and that hopefully this will give them just enough to get Over their hub for we return for season three at the end of January. And who knows. Maybe we'll do a couple of mini episodes and catch up interviews over the course of the next few weeks. But I think that this is a giant Santa bag it is eight crazy candles of joy Kwanza. They SORTA MINORA thing too. But it's Kinda Candelabra whatever whatever makes Kwanza Very bountiful. That's that's the metaphor. That's what we're giving you here in this podcast. I do you have to talk a little bit about an off season encounter that I had coach share. Please share so this is why they say. Don't do a podcast where you live. Okay I happen to be at the the supermarket a couple of weeks ago and I'm in the produce aisle investigating the apples. 'cause I like a good apple. You like you lovely apple. Do you love apples. Hey how about them apples. I figured you'd go there eventually. So I'm laser focused on my apples squeezing the apples as I want to just enough not too tight not to attack shoved my thumb through the bruised apple. I happen to like the delicious apple did you. I'd love red delicious apples. Why because as the name says they are absolutely delicious? They're not really delicious. See here's the problem. Okay I'm minding my own business on your pro-business checking out the apples delicious apples. I think I know it's coming here. I think in the corner of my eye. A woman comes racing up next to me like a bad Outta Outta hell. She grabs the apple. That I'm squeezing. I'm thinking who is this. Crazy woman Razi Psycho woman. I am trying to feel the apples to see which one apples apples who happens to be the crazy woman. Who is that crazy? It happens to be your wife Jessica neath iron all about this because you're looking at red delicious apple so I can't just be left left alone. No you can't coach Randy. Lovely has to come racing. I WANNA say racing like she was over in the organic bananas because eating bad apples and she comes running running over to me now. This is. This isn't just like the next section this is like it's like two segues sections over hurtling other other fruit categories What is this woman doing? I was ready to punch those land because some crazy cycle may the grocery store. It's gotTa be scary so I I like my delicious apples and you know what she starts doing. What does she start? Criticizing my apple selection because it's red delicious and you don't like red delicious either. You have to go with honey Kris okay. So it's a whole Nathan Nathan campaign that gives us delicious just saying delicious. He'd so delicious. I am glad I did not see her in the yogurt section. Because Oh key lime or you don't WanNa key Lime Lime Boston cream. No Dannon Oh forget it get it I mean she's she had the potential by every section I. This is almost a game changer. For us it was almost a game. Changer be decided to put aside understanding that your lack of intellectual all kind of apple all right is that we're not GonNa hold that against you. She she said Red Delicious. That's the cussing and they rot quickly to absolutely right. But I can't go Macintosh if anybody would know just so we know. Yeah but now we've got this whole feud feud going on that we put a deposit on the outer banks houses. He doesn't want to do because she's afraid. There's going to be ready delicious that we were frayed. We've decided to do is bring it to a a blind taste test is we're going to do a blind taste of apples during obelix episode. which uses are beginning episode which will probably be a season four for episode next year in August talking about? We're talking about it season for. We're not even dreaming about season. Three I understand and I actually laughed very hard at that situation waste. That was fun. You know what I had on the way into work. Let me guess. What did you delicious read out? Key Lime Yoga which is very difficult to eat. While you're driving. It is our holiday Allahdad episode. We're at four cities brewery. We're at bed to the dead bad to the dead. We are the PODCAST. Celebrate suburban and urban dad life courtroom. Adam deal with coach Randy on Adam de and and yes we said we would take a break. Come back on Super Bowl Sunday but last we couldn't stay away. Stay away from you so much people are saying. I have this commute. I'm listening to the old episodes which is great. Thank you for the for download averaging INC five hundred downloads a week by week flight hundred downloads. The that really can we have to pay attention attention. They put out quality episode. This is the FBI why this is an you of private appalachians here. Hey they're our biggest. Our biggest episode yet downloaded episodes for all you do this. This dance for you and today. We're celebrating Happy Holiday Holiday holiday voice. You're hearing this coutry. And he sent. Is Roger APP along. We are at four cities brewery in Orange New Jersey Ryan S.. Extreme from the train station here Roger last time we spoke. It wasn't a dream because you have the construction happening. Yeah I think homes last time lasts less springtime bring. Yes yeah twenty nine thousand nine. We had the least signed and we were just going through all the build pulled out like she starting out the space beautiful. Thank you know. It's been a real labor loan through was alive parts right around the time we'll be met after we opened in August seventeen weeks or four months. When said you've got a big holiday party coming up so we the party's here as well? So we have one in the back through his hours. Wilson Close Monday Wednesdays Base Butler Points Holiday Party here interviewed on Pat About. This places are in the neighborhood. Jan Supporting Orange New Jersey and all of the oranges oranges. That that kind of confluence here in orange but you come in and it's got the restaurant vibe vibe. And then it's got the industrial thing going on right with the forty room the barrels probably a microphone was is it what you expected any surprised at what you expect. Love the Yes. What I expected short answer? I think the biggest surprise was of playing extremely execute. Take everything yeah. Everything has to be intentional. So horror has been WHO's the dividers? We're all in this like myself. Business Partnership Catton's service. I tell you yeah very here. We went to a lot Aubrey's inspired by five design and we can't build our dreams brewery combination of all the best received from around the world. Sue Oh speaking of building your dream dream brewery going to a lot of other burris. I understand that the brewery community in New Jersey and New York has been very very supportive of you launching. And you doing your thing. Yeah it's very. It's it's people think it's a joke with every every VP. The job is competitive. Is You're going against other breweries business. You know you can't tell me it's all for you know w but it is because there are so few It's like Napa Valley. Everybody wants to go to replace. visit through three garages and so when a nearby twin elephant and Chattan rinsed the mental magnify health out other house in Brooklyn. You know just every Borowitz you what you need from us. That's wasn't as a guy who's gone to a lot of Burris agrees in his time. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. This is great. Kinda guy coach. Randy I I like. I'm an artist round that is like Brown milk during Church George. Wheat Ale number nine. I got number ninety. Goldeneye the Golden. Go through this in just a minute but I also know that in order to promote your work inside you have to go outside outside. So are you doing with festivals in other restaurants and bars. We are so we just started getting slow. We want us to. I slept so we're getting accounts. Be about six right now. Fox Balcony South Orange. Losing Westwards over fifty sorrow only tavern. They have Turkey burgers right executor's program. We were part of their winter. Phd List drink a lot of Quality Beers and you get a reward so arose at the MCI Hotel and among player. And that's good. That's successful losing. Count places anything's going over goes out tens or infrastructure bars by the end of the year. We have cans we just did it first. Came on his head is influenced by three has been selling really well. The judge sitting over there on the ground me just now come on the judge. Yeah so I guess you could actually buy that. Bring that home in exactly Up to sixty four hours and and what I love about rallies is that you can take them where we go so We're we're going to go so we could bring these two another brewery. Bruce will fill your rally. Take our obsolete recycling serving but it's also a fun way for other Bruce Radio. I've been to that place. You'll have a collection of Brown and Roger. It's the holidays. It is so what is going on at four cities with Matt so The first thing we have is our holiday beers are x ray so four days vendors in here all seas of orangey stars West Ourselves orangey craft beer craft goods that went up days off. Raise the following the twenty eighth. My refrigerator banned. Yeah how Ankle Twenty Eighth Year or holiday for are you end up twenty eighth at six. PM Party as well as messed up. I get one by one. We were talking with Rod. He gave us a sample CD. Yes God listen to George down down to the podcast but I listen to them like covers of Yankees to now I again. We're big fans. We're able to appreciate right. So maybe playing twenty eight so we have a few days. Go ahead Roger. Walk us through your meal you you were talking a little bit about the The phonograph which I think you're you're seller of at least at the time of this podcast guest gets loaded. Yeah Yeah there is something for everyone. I mean you look at Randy likes light stuff. I like the dark stuff. And there's everything in between. Yeah I'll start with the first. The first one is brick church dark. We can't wait for church named were not. It's a name for East orange. The iconic prepared restrictions the search there. So that's good snout light beer then is the bold ride which is a tribute to wrangle crews year in Seoul. Mace's leg right here right. Yeah right so light lager A lot of people like house. We Wanna be able to comedy. Don't have lake hawks late rap. Join that one coach right. hops and barley. Yes exactly that very tiny citrusy flavor that some people just away so feeling. Piney searchers light toes right now exactly the lovely drink nickel lovely beer golden share back if you it. They don't give it to her. Four Seasons classiest classy joy. Don't he likes to Tula. uh-huh judge our growlers. Yes this right playing right now yes of course. JK She season. We're going back on a lot of really good. Come back here. That would be back here. I J J yeah come on. If you're listening please please. While you're you're formally invited enforcing brewing. Five South Street cred wasn't high With your favorites right now as you are Bob. Horn blasts skyway quarter however clever eight point point six percent in drinks very rusty lucious scientists. Our title Bitch. That's the one that actually comes shower shower thunder shower ready because clearly. You're you're the linguist so so it's a cranberry Sour Beers. cranberry juice also one of my favorites. That kinda always point back. That's Ford Rap Carina instagram accountable volume for me so our partner an thing three of you right. It's Jeffrey is welcome. Aw Man so so anthony from West. Yeah let's Edison's phonograph ANTHEA DJ so we'll have and it's hard to get. It's a rotating one when hawks one one time so we thought about a routine corner of Addison Actually Edison was because we want to when you get copyright substantial bear the historical museum on Facebook Feed Lake and post our cans of Hennessy's Phonogram Edison's. You're listening very clever. Also invited to come down circle around status and museum and is on mainstream yes through a volume three. I mean you can't get that invited three four. I mean volume wanted to were okay. You gotta stick with him through work and so I it just came out with five. Yes we know that you're you're a bad habit your your episode episode called again for all you do this ads ads for you. The number one downloaded episode of all time for those of you have not listened to it. Go back to season one. Another bad guy jumps here. I can introduce yourself. Give give your vision for the daddy table. Hooked him up with this go rhino. It'd be great but we want to. How jets actually emigrate somewhere near CNN's doing agree Excellent comes home a lot Golden normal you know having making breaking up. Yeah if you read her anti He's a freshman remind. Yeah loving it really well and to tell you so my my kids really into drumming. And we've been going into the football games and leaving at halftime right although I will say this year's West High School football team that's what we're not. We're not dumb. They go frazier bathroom Brett Brett. What he has he has growlers John? They they are grounded. Pending right is a is one of our dads it West Orange. His daughter plays softball team. I had the pleasure coaching his daughter. Amazing thing David physician ever fish for fishing so call wealth wrestlers orange residents. We have a Nevada debt. Never heard of any teaching it opens doors they can hold your keys and opened bottles out of it. Opening monitoring everything else was white. Yeah so this Adam feed for for a couple year now. We started January special National Holiday episode episode and we came here to force it easy. What brought you here tonight? Grown you gotTa Villier growlers could say was more spiritual connection. That's relatively need. What are you entertainers right says? Have your favorite do right now. It is volume him for the hottest before. I appreciate the buying three on the night I go with the number nine I go dark yes Dr yes so I started. What may drink church rich church like the Neyla Straw hour and thirty flagware thing is we have come along? We you talk about for small bread. I know what you are busy do for a living. I'm an engineer training here to Randy I don't know why you feel like you have a head. Just you have somewhere to put your hat. It's exactly what it is a little juvenile juvenile. Even I'll keep around anyway. We're we're happy. Keep the show Charlton very much. Your engineer engineer. I Make Gadgets mechanical very nice so you see you know you're in Annetta cat over systems reading really frightening and make all kinds of crazy things for aerospace. Allow that you have. y'All been this. Were for the man with the land. The small company which is wholly owned by large corporation a subsidiary of accommodated other companies. Exactly nobody everybody's got a boss organization like that part of it is we have the ads on the show Hello Dad for Twenty Years Twenty Years Twenty and held a sheltie base is. That's right archaeology girls or France so part of what we do if you talk about the ads. What the best part of being a maybe rare Graham rarely Innis? Listen Jewish but still this mikey daughter. Twenty Missile Missile Impo. You're so much so one of the things we have. Our show is called Old Dad Advice for Dad. It's not like beer. is of it so the idea that if you could give advice dads that are listening to our show now just so you know we have about five hundred downloads. A week thrust. You're pretty good listenership a lot. The people all over the world gifts advice for DADS. So this this show. We'll have a dad vitamin you give one of the one of the biggest things things that I recently come when you're talking in your case and know about the criticizing better to start with the criticism. Better it may be mixed criticism with the goods. Maybe one bad packaged. You get very nice. We'll this is such a special treat. I'm so glad it was so great to see you regular thing. This is a holiday episode episode of special out. I hope they name a beer. After that'd be fun that'd that'd be cool we gotta talk show back in the spring this entire story. compelling story Jackson's Gone Through Dad and it Louis. kind of despair Scott almost coming to fruition and she always asked what he's back ready and he's doing it back you've live so we're here the privacy you beds acid please regards your family happy Holidays Carribean healthy holidays. Thank you care. We are bad to the dead at this is our Howard. Dad's special four cities brewery in Orange Inch New Jersey with our good friend. Roger Abalon listeners. Thanks for sticking with us. We had a little bit of a break. Another little break is going to be coming up. Then we plan on coming back around L. Super Bowl Sunday but hopefully you're enjoying this episode again. Roger Apple on the Gas Roger You were already on once we dad by so we got some great great advice. It's from you it's Some of our most popular dad vice so because a recurring guest now we have a different segment at new segment retrial. Piloting a how. Call Five questions with Dad all right. I'm right so some of the questions will be related to what you do. Some of the questions will be completely random. I'm I'm ready for it all right here. We go first. Question is Roger. Who plays you in the movie of Your Life With Arbor wait? What are the Star Trek Reading Rainbow? Either burden people say Denzel. You went to Lavar while Lavar I don't know when I was younger. Live you've sailed. I didn't think I did. I got accepted the the fact that like him. And he's a guy and a minimum on the street randomly about two years ago at a outside of New York and DO A. Ah The picture and get Barbara. I learned to read with Lavar. Burton her to go through space before US questionable question question number one number two question number two if you could only have one beer and one beer only on this list now. This is like asking your. Which is your child's child? Which one do you take it? God that is really the worst question after the other celebrity. You take a wire while you're thinking about that. One Roger Oh good. I'm going to have to see last. What is it about the skyway quarter? which by the way? I'm simply chairs chairs number. Nine here Chelsea Piers Sir Charles. Everybody knows where this was the excuse for doing a holiday batteries as they come in and celebrate injuring crab. Yeah I think the border is just rusty wintry when it's cold out a little. I want a copy be lake dream and guests the carbonation everything about this six months later in complete we can just come back question. Question number three threes. Yes Roger. Of course you're you're a musician. Yes yes hey if you could sing only one song and one song only for the rest of your life. What are you God or listen? Listen to one song and the song for the rest of your life over and over and over and over again what would it be. It'd be no song. I love that much. I gotta be honest. But oh my Gosh Vera. Questions Top music question. Kirkland's style. All right I probably. It was like a Karaoke game this. Although it doesn't have any lyrics I would probably listen to his kind of Mazda hot. You saw this. Because it's it's for me it's like you're reading this. You're it is the soundtrack of their life. Yeah it's just pure creativity. It's everything good music in one. We saw to create series eighty five tonality. Everything is for many layers of Roger out with fantastic so question number four. We're here promoting forces burris and all all the greatness. The four cities breweries brings to us. But if you could have one beer from another brewing what one beer from another brewery would you want to have here. Man Appear that really got me on the craft beer but boundaries backwards faster back backwards right one child Mathausen men. Yeah IT'S A. It's their dirty beer. which is like I believe? Scotch at that Sir Bert. So it's very the question number five okay so again. A man of many layers does the music right. He's a dad the dad he's got the he's an entrepreneur and he's also into the thing I said. Okay so sort of phys ed related. Yes if you you were a baseball player yes what would you walk up music. And it can't be miles Davis snow camping miles. I think it might be the walking. I would go with something. Latin because Latin players seem chart debut curb the The specials gangsters and then didn't walk of. Hey Question Really Asu congratulations thank. You've done a fantastic the job. We are a very proud of what you accomplished. You sit out goals and dreams inspiration to a lot of a band to the debt family guests of fraternity. Now see them do well. WE WANNA rise by lifting others and the four CS brewer. He just does amazing amazing things for years to come access doing well. He's doing old. You still played. We're happy to be here. I noticed we're getting interview. We're GONNA hit one of your partners. Yeah Ya gotTa Anchorage right well again probably in Hello Jeff. How's it going guys? Hello Jeff how're you. I'm did guys. Are you ready ready yet. Yeah Jennifer which of course is Spanish. PATS get gasoline now. He's got to be very nice. So you WANNA break EJ. I have a dual purpose. It carries keys. It opens beer right. And we're here at craft breweries. I guess very appropriate never have one. When I go to Artie? Everybody's got to her. Now you Roy pick one right off the bat utility belts in you can be a real hero. I contested place. Beautiful Very nice and so You're now the number show so just by yourself. How did you get involved with craft brewery? So where do I begin so been brewing. homebrew is about twelve. Okay Yeah You know started making career. That isn't good. Does it was really bad. I experimented with the bed bath and beyond mister brew. That is exactly. He's starting always started. I bought my over in Milberg of John on one over on the average bill have YEP fear. I don't think I would have anybody to go. Hey it's so bad eh. I started getting really into craft beer younger age lake. Hurry in Philly Cole Dock Street. I don't even know if they still exist. It is let that was like the closest real craft beer. I was able to get. I always try to find like little small as far as I could find and then want the big beer so I bought. That can't try out and it was bad and then I just when I get. I get laser focused on Sunday so I just did more research more research or research. Every batch kept getting better and then I started learning about east water chemistry. Yep fresh ingredients Indian sale. Really you really have to appreciate the site of making off. It's what is it about here that you wanted to make beer. It's like Jamaica warning go home WanNa make severe. No I mean it was started from my lovecraft here of a and I just I love creating stuff really personally killed tables and I love that kind of hands on so being able to make a fear that I want to drink that I really liked. It was just the challenge to try to get something from the sobriety involvement. Here were you doing for a living And I still have my agent the day job so basically I worked at a private bank. I do it global technology so anybody who has got I phones pads development. That's hitting this this. This is the Labor of love but I always tell people in my day job. Get friendly with executive admins and the Oh not off the it guy. I Q ten q because then you'll never get back back online like a hobby. Always bring it home. I actually had a pretty elaborate. homebrew Bruce said if it was like it was like a mini version of this brewery lightly in my garage ranked assigned kind of. Oh yes by. Yeah I mean All stainless steel stuff. I would hear the very we've got is Refrigerator that I converted into a freezer that I converted beer K. K.. Hey greater it had climbed yet you trademark that down on its it turns into a robot just takes us right just former no. I always had five years on tap at home all times. All different styles styles chalkboard up all the information like you see him. The pocketed worrisome. Run that by Raja reporters. It was great. Suggestion of the world is just exploding. And you're seeing a lot more of that in the local area right now I I know as a consumer and I use the word consumer not mildly but heavily heavily. You know you always remember those breweries. That had that differentiating creating tastes. Were you drinking you go. Wow I've got to go back for more and a half to remember the name of this. So do you think about that when you think. Think about the beer's that you wanNA offer to people. And and and and and what goes into that craftsmanship of coming up with differentiating unique. Kind of beer. Yeah we the We constantly think about that being so new. I think we're still trying to find. Our place has met that. There's a bunch of Burris we're big fans of Lake that. Are you know a much larger scale than we are. There were super fans of all the way from up in Portland Maine down along east. Coast here Tom So there's something we aspire to be like but also not exactly like them I would say be like them in the sense of style. They've got tastes. You know you know other half beer you know a trillion beer like you know those bureau treehouse. I want people to know for sitting like on Castiglia. When you see the can branding the taste with the four CS was that so one of our investors came up with key came up with the logo? We had a different logo. We'll go it was fine. We one of our investors came in. Does that this day job is a graphic designer and he just not that hard for why here why Orange New Jersey it so we had looked fun different places around the westwards. Orange Eighty southbound south orange. We wanted to be in the orange. Because we're all we all live here. Anthony and Roger Repair I'm from Pennsylvania Scranton Gotcha so I moved out Insures Jersey Ninety five. I've been westwards since two thousand three all right now actually resident orange. I live right across the street. And you said you have kids that are like school-age delay free kids fourteen. Twelve at eight and Aaron the school district. They're my my extra is a house over there they go to the. If you're a single parent clearly you can send that. There are some ex wives randy that do have value sort of networker touch uh-huh Rogers so you're fourteen is a freshman. He's an eighth grade. Middle School He's at Roosevelt. Also my my daughter's name Kayla Okay and then so the twelve year old. I've got a twelve year old. WHO's in seventh grade? Roosevelt Roosevelt and my daughter's eight Gregory Gregory. I'll very nice right so this is great. Roosevelt and Briana eleven will be going into next year. That's released a single dad. Yup Challenge right stuff plus this you know my accent. I have a really great relationship as the forces go. I always tell people it's like it's like ninety percent. Good it dry fairy. It's very good as commendable. She's been great. You know helping me out with you know times that I need to be here. The the fact that I haven't placed right across the street and my fourteen year old. Yeah Yeah you know. I'll come over. I get them settled into that first aid babysitting course that was offered at Roosevelt last year. Not yet not yet time she does yes right so yes. They're they're good at the you know they need overlapping ready to seconds. What what do you think is the biggest challenges you have at a single easy easy? It's time to get Komo specially even take this out of the equation. Yeah you know just goes off weeks when I don't have them I I only go two or three days Hartford so I got. I'm always like texting. Hey can I stop the kids So you know so sue you have to have a sexual part of art our show better. They called Better Dad Dad vice as basically the vice for Dads to see where you are what you're doing advised for DADS who listen to about five hundred downloads. A week right all right so the advice would you give all the five hundred dads out there whether they be an Ireland Israel Japan for Orange New Jersey. All right so my advice would be to spend as much time with your kids as you possibly can. It's I learned it from my dad and my brothers kissed you know not like doing. It's it's not so much about material do things which experiences I don't remember. I couldn't tell you how many toys I got Christmas or birthdays but I can tell you my dad taking me on hikes. These bike riding like little expeditions. After work every every week on camping trips on vacations I get sick. So it's all about experiences -periences kids they're just GonNa last forever kickoff very very seven device. I think what you said I. I don't remember the toy and got a lot of toys around the holidays. And they're in a box earned probably have broken on memory but I do remember those trips. I remember those times with my my parents. That's great advice thank you. Thanks job place wrapping a charter bars. That sounds like a guy who would write poetry. One half of it in the Cross Peter and and then the guy on the other end Right in there. Are you a local guy are you. Fluid fluid contaminant. Yes yes breath. I'll tell you I'm just curious. Six four six six of the hair. It's like no but I've heard that show except I know the movie. All right thanks for bringing into the show at the show is not over without a fletch referee. You Marquette your it yet. I haven't done it over. fled twice over over got nine year old and a four year old. Very nice very nice and where do you live here. Orange right around the corner. Very nice and I have a shouldn't really take us long. I work for auditor. Patriotdetroit horizon okay which is in adding routine and a potter's artists services hiring. Where do I send to resume? The Jar are just starving. I never mind. I'll wait for that person older. Are you partial owner. Marshall it may partner with partial five years ago company yes I made partner five years ago. We raised around and Forty years ago and so we all love more important. We appreciate you taking time here. We have something career Call Dad Lice. Her Dad's advice for Dad. What would you like to give advice for debt by four? Ah Okay. Here's my advice for new all right. Let's wait for it here. It comes into Russia to be big though. She'd be huge. I'm assuming cut this part out track EH. Because we're getting ourselves out all right man emba on your show up. Show like unpack that a little bit. I show up. I was when burnoff is going to be a dad. I I what people don't know was crazy expensive. Carl delivers weird lifestyle. Because a lot of things they wanted me to spend my clients money on stuff along I have like I think I make trading arm payday loans allows data daughter and it took me by five maybe seven years before really felt like I was like okay. You're going to be safe. We're going to have to say we're going to be a lot and a lot of choices I made in those five or seven years. I wouldn't make again because I was acting as if there was never going to be four earth scared of like the a home for authentic. Dad Is Forgot Trayvon New Dad. Absolutely you gotTa know what it is but I I can almost most here. It's closer to yes and you think he's never really never never really gets that. That place where you're like you know what if my bosses Mara. It's all good my grandchildren taken care of and embrace the uncertainty of yet. You got an up close that deal. You WanNa let one thing that meeting with whatever I would say measured I really carefully and bureau is showing all right. That's awesome awesome senior. Let's do it again. All right take kitchen bottles and doors and or cartridge skis. Yasuo League cheers. Take take care of her bed to the debt. What's up? Enjoy our pipe yet house. I gave him the thumbnail sketch. Anthony intervene on one of the three partners. Foresees brewery here in Orange New Jersey. We're doing our our holiday special coach Randy Adam doing then to the dad because you ask for it home on my couch watching article written about is people like what's go nine care. I don't know why. Why hundred downloads a week? Yeah all right so bad people hear about things that are going on about. Dad's Eddie amador. The two children. Yes very nice giving me the business that all time job he does always seventeen fifty boys girls girls seventeen core. She's out there driving and she's actually working right now she's driving. Her name is Eliana Jonah. Nice that your fifth year old Giancarlo Giancarlo Anatomy of it which is also an Italian surname. But it's actually a play on Nestor which has been Robert Nesta. Marley am Giancarlo. Where'd you grow up in Bloomfield? Get the the guy. Yeah our fears when we first opened up wondering about that. We're going to we're about the route again I am. I'm a big dark beer. Forget it back growling. How'd how'd you get hooked? 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#126 - Should the U.S. Give Undocumented Immigrants a Path to Citizenship?

Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates

52:57 min | 1 year ago

#126 - Should the U.S. Give Undocumented Immigrants a Path to Citizenship?

"Hi, I'm John donvan. If you like intelligence squared, I wanna recommend another podcast. I think you should be listening to from slate. It is called what next every weekday morning host, Mary, Harris. Takes on one big news story and explains. Why it matters? And what you need to look out for next, whether it's the crisis, at the border or battles over abortion or insights into the global trash trade. What next provides you with context to really understand the news and the world find what next in apple podcasts or wherever you're listening right now. Hi, welcome. Everybody to intelligence squared US. I'm John donavan your host and debate moderator and this week, we're taking on topic. That is always in the news. And that topic is immigration. Yes. It's an emotional issue, and for many Americans, it's also very, very personal. And of course, it's going to be a key topic in the twenty twenty election. So let's get into it in this episode. We're taking a look back at our debate on the resolution give undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship. We recorded this one live in New York City in two thousand sixteen. When we brought four of the sharpest and most compelling thinkers on this issue together for what was respectful debate on a highly contentious topic. Let's get to it. In two thousand sixteen. One of the candidates for president hit a nerve when he said, I'm going to build a wall. And then the question of what America should do about the eleven million, plus immigrants who broke immigration laws to get here, or to stay here became central to the presidential campaign, while the proposed responses to their presence revealed significant differences in Americans sense of right and wrong there here, these eleven million, but what is supposed to happen to them, and what would be right or wrong. Well that sounds like the makings of a debate. So let's have it. Yes or no? To this statement, give undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship. A debate from intelligence squared US. I'm John donvan? We are at the cow and music center in New York City with four superbly-qualified debaters on the stage who will argue for and against the motion, give undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship, as always we go in three rounds. And then our. Our live audience here in New York votes to choose the winner and only one side wins the motion again give undocumented immigrants path to citizenship. Let's meet the team that wants you to vote. Yes. On this motion. I wanna I say hi to Mary Elena in copy. And Mary Lena, you are executive director of the national immigration Law Center. You started back there in two thousand as a staff attorney, and went on to give your whole legal career to the issue of immigration rights, and my, my question for you is did you did you always have this goals that where you saw yourself going now actually started thinking that I wanted to be a D agent and after graduated from college back toward island ways where I grew up and really found that being in the immigrant community. That was my life's calling. So that's what I've dedicated my life to. Okay. And you'll be arguing that side tonight. And can you tell us please who your partner is snipe? Partner is amazing smart, and witty Angela Kelly who is also dear friend and colleague, N, G Kelly. Know I've been invited to call you, Angie. That's okay, Angie. So they'd be scared. Your executive director of the center for American progress action fund and senior vice president at the center for American progress. You're its first vice president for immigration policy, but you left the organization briefly in two thousand fourteen to work as an advisor to the White House. What, what was your area? What were you inviting them on? Yeah, it was pretty wonderful. I got to actually be a fly on the wall in the west wing, and I was advising on the president's executive actions on immigration. And it was pretty extrordinary time it was really quite wonderful well-versed in our topic tonight on the team arguing for the motion. Again, that motion is given documented immigrants path to citizenship. We have two debaters want you to vote. No on the motion gonna try to persuade you. Let's I welcome Stephen Cammarata. I see. So the nature of your work actually means and you're at the center for immigration studies your director of research. They're a lot of data. You do a lot of data work using data from the census bureau and a number of years ago, the bureau, actually called you in and asked you a commission to examine the quality of their data on immigration. So what sort of grade did you give them? Well, we did that work for about five years, and we gave them basically a B. Plus, we made some recommendations, which mostly accepted. So the bureau does a pretty good job of collecting data and it's not easy. So you're feeling is when we hear data tonight, that comes from the census bureau, we can take it pretty yet you should say, that's the best data. There is. And it's reasonably accurate, okay? Thanks very much, and Steve, who is your partner. My partner is rich Lowry from national review, ladies and gentlemen, rich Lowry, high rates. So as just pointed out, you are the editor of the national review, you were a handpicked twenty years ago, nearly twenty years ago, by William F Buckley junior to lead the magazine and all this year, the magazine has taken a very, very, very strong stand against gentleman named Donald Trump, you put against Trump on your cover last back in January. But when it comes to immigration, there is some overlap between the magazines views and his what is it like fifty percent seventy percent? It's a little hard to say with precision because Donald Trump changes the details up so often, but I agree a hundred percent with the sentiment that in this area. And in every other we should be putting the national interest first. Okay. The team arguing against the motion give undocumented immigrants have path to citizenship. We move now onto round one round one are opening statements by each debater intern. We will hear from all four of them the motion, again, give undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship. And here to try to persuade you to vote. Yes. On the motion, Angela Kelly, she senior vice president at the center for American progress and executive director of the center for American progress action fund, ladies and gentlemen, Angie Kelly. Thank you very much for the introduction, and the opportunity to address an affirm the resolution to give undocumented immigrants path citizenship, would I'm going to do is to address three questions that I think are really important for you. All to understand the context of the resolution and the implications of your decision. The first is who are the undocumented. The next is, why are they undocumented? And finally, what are the options for the undocumented? So let's get started with the who the undocumented are settled longtime residents in two thousand fourteen the average undocumented adult had lived the United States for thirteen and a half years. If they have a US citizen child, they have lived here for fifteen years. So these aren't accidental tourists. They're not folks who decided to spend an extra day at Disney, they, they are home. And so when people say, send them home. They're missing the point. This is their home about seven million of the undocumented are workers. That's about five percent of our workforce. They. Pay sales tax. They pay property tax and many pay income tax. In fact, estimates are that local and state governments net about eleven point six billion dollars a year from undocumented workers. That's the who the question that I get the most often though in talking about the undocumented is why, why are they just not getting in line and getting their green card? I have one relative who insists that there is a window at the post office that if they just went there that they could get a green card. So the US immigration system is insanely complex. And it hasn't been updated in any meaningful way since nineteen ninety so to understand how out of sync the system is you just need to remember one number. And that's five thousand because that's how many visas are for workers like the person who drove me to the airport this morning, or the person who's going to clean up after us after we all leave. So there's five thousand legal channels, and that's it for people who work in our hotels in our restaurants for the. Who took care of my daughters when they were young for the people who take care of my grandmother today. So we are now issuing visas to the adult unmarried sons and daughters of US citizens from Mexico who filed for their visa in nineteen ninety five. That's how long people are having to wait. And so if you're outside the US you can't come visit because if you're trying to get a permanent visa, they won't give you a temporary one beyond the long waiting time. Our law say that if you've been in the US illegally for longer than six months, you're subject to a penalty that you can't get legal status for ten years. So the ironic thing is that we have a lot of undocumented people who have a qualifying family member who could petition for them. But this bar will kick in, if they leave the US to get their visa, they won't be able to come back in for ten years. What do they do? They stay the last question is what are the options there's four but I think there's just one solution. So we can do nothing and be okay with eleven million people living without. Status. Spend seventeen billion dollars a year. Enforcing laws that don't work knowing that folks are getting exploited we could aggressively deport them, and we could imagine, without would be like to go to schools and churches and ferret people out not the America. We wanna live in. We could give them something short of citizenship. We could just have them work here and never be able to belong, and that would undermine the fabric of our nation and lead to continued exploitation, the last most realistic defensible option is tonight's resolution a path to citizenship for those who qualify clear background checks. They'll pay fees the learn English, and they will be the best Americans that we could have thank you very much. Thank you. Resolution is give undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship. And here to try to persuade you to vote. No on the resolution rich Lowry editor of the national review. Please welcome rich Lowry. Thank you, everyone. And thanks to intelligence squared for hosting this event into our counterparts for what will be a spirited debate tonight and wish. Just be clear at the outset what this debate is about it isn't about whether there are illegal immigrants in this country who are exemplary people in have moving stories, there are it isn't about whether a legal immigrants, come to this country and overwhelmingly work. They do it isn't about whether we should give an amnesty or legalization to so called dreamers who came here or brought here illegally at a very young age. It isn't even about whether we should have a blanket amnesty or legalisation for every illegal immigrant in the country. No matter what. No, you can agree with every single one of those positions. And still not support giving a legal immigrants. The most prized possession in the world. One that tens of millions of law abiding, people all around the world covet, which is United States citizenship. That's how radical our opponents position is tonight. I submit to you, that even if you disagree with Stephen, I on some of the policy, you can still reject this resolution. It is our position that we should oppose all radicalism on this issue. We should reject the radicalism of Donald Trump, who has absurdly talked of mass deportation, and we should reject this resolution which is manifestly unfair to all the people who, like suckers, play by the rules. Rules of our immigration system, people who wait years to come here, legally remember, this resolution has been tried before in nineteen eighty six we had an amnesty and a pathway to citizenship for three million illegal immigrants in this country that was supposed to solve the problem. It actually made it worse. We have four times as many illegal immigrants in this country now. And if this resolution were to become policy, we would have millions more. So what's the better policy option here? It's very simple. It's enforcement now we don't need to build a wall, even a big beautiful wall. But we do need to do more on the border and very importantly, we need to do more to stop employers from hiring cheap a legal labour that creates a jobs magnet to come here. If it's harder to. Work here illegally. Fewer people will come and fewer people will stay and then we can finally get an immigration system, that will serve the interest of our workers first who are natives. And also, by the way, legal immigrants if you care about income inequality, if you care about stagnant wages, you should oppose this resolution. I'm John donvan round, one of this intelligence squared US debate continues in just a moment. Stay with us. Here in intelligence squared US. Our team is incredibly proud of the debates that we produce like you, we know we don't get the full story or all the arguments, when we tune into our favorite shows or read our favorite newspapers. 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I firmly believe in the promise of America, a promise, which my parents are through enthusiasts. Believed in, they were textile workers. They had a second fifth grade education. They made the courageous and selfless decision to come to the United States. Why for a better economic future for their children? Just like millions of immigrants before and after them have done, including many of you who are listening and watching tonight, we're asking you to vote for this motion to give documented immigrants path to citizenship for three reasons. One we are a nation of laws to we benefit economically and three. It's good for our society. I the rule of law is important because it provides predictability consistency. And when applied, well not discrimination. Unfortunately, our immigration law is none of that. Our immigration laws are dysfunctional and out of date. Congress must create a clear, roadmap that shows restaurant workers. Nurses, entrepreneurs and all the citizens in waiting how to get into a line for citizenship, as well as to create a line for others. The second reason to vote for the motion is that the economic benefits are clear, the roadmap we create should focus on the contributions, that people who are here are already making to our communities economy and society at a practical level. It's good for our bottom line. Recent studies show that when young immigrants who have been able to get work authorisation and temporary protection from deportation. We all benefit from that they're able to more fully participate in society. They're able to buy big ticket items like cars and homes, all of that helps our state coffers the Congressional Budget Office in two thousand thirteen predicted that immigration reform would increase the GDP by three point three percent in ten years. Finally, creating a path to citizenship is good for our society. It's in line with our American values of fair. Equality and dignity. It recognizes the eleven million undocumented immigrants for who they really are. Americans at heart and citizens in waiting our country has had plenty of experience, excluding entire segments of our population. When we denied African Americans and women, the right to vote, congress acted when there was rampant discrimination against African Americans congress acted, and pass a Civil Rights Act. Your vote tonight is a message to congress to act and provide a path to citizenship. Thank you. Thank you. Mario Anna in copious. Again, give undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship, and here to make his statement against the motion. Stephen cammarata. He is director of research at the center for immigration studies here. Stephen cammarata. Let's start with some facts about the illegal immigrant population when most important facts, we know about illegal immigrants is that on average. They have about a tenth grade education. This tells us a lot, it tells us which Americans are going to be competing with the illegal immigrants for jobs opponents tonight, identify strongly with illegal immigrants, and I understand that. And I think that's something to their credit, but we also have to keep in mind, the Americans even if they're not well represented in this room, the roughly thirteen million who don't have a high school education, who research shows compete directly with illegal immigrants. If we let every illegal immigrants day, the job competition stays. Now, you might say, well, they might not undercut the native born anymore, but the bottom line is you still fundamentally increase the supply of labor precisely among the most vulnerable part of the labor market. Let me talk very briefly about the impact on tax payers, people who come to America with a high school. Agree or less are an enormous fiscal drain on average about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars during their lifetime. And the amnesty illegal is Asian citizenship will make immigrants eligible legal immigrants for even more programs likely increasing that the total cost of letting all illegal immigrants saying, giving them citizenship is likely to be about a trillion dollars to tax payers. Now it's true. Illegal immigration, does make the economy bigger more people is a bigger economy, but there's no evidence. It makes the native born richer, would it mainly does it benefits the legal immigrants themselves? If all of them, get to stay, and it tends to come at the expense of taxpayers and the poorest and most vulnerable American workers at the bottom end of the labor market. There's no administrative capacity to even process, ten million applications our immigration service, just gave out citizenship to nine hundred criminal aliens. They were all due to be deported, but the system is so screwed up. The bureaucracy is so overwhelmed. They all got citizenship. Instead, when we had our last amnesty and eighty six between one third and one quarter of the people who got it then did so fraudulently in two thousand thirteen the legislation that would have amnestied the illegal immigrants was longer than the New Testament. It was so complicated. No one read it. Everybody admitted they hadn't read it now. What's the alternative here? Well, the turn it is to start with something sensible not rewarding everyone who broke the law. The alternative is to actually begin by enforcing the law, we control the border. We go after the employers who hire the illegal immigrants. We get the cooperation of local law enforcement. If even some illegal immigrants go home. It's good for American workers. It's good for taxpayers. It restores the rule of law, and it avoids kind of radical idea that we should be handing out citizenship, and we don't need some big piece of legislation just enforcing current law. We'd go a long way to moving the ball. Forward. Thank you. Thank you, Steve Cammarata, and that can around one of us intelligence squared US debate where our motion is give undocumented immigrants path to citizenship. Now, we move onto round two and round to the debaters address one another directly and they also take questions from me and from you, in our live audience here in New York. The team arguing for the motion that wants you to vote. Yes. Angie, Kelly and Mariana in copy, the they have portrayed undocumented immigrants as citizens in waiting Americans at heart that this is their home that they are contributors. They pay taxes. They want to be Americans. But the process makes it nearly impossible. There are long waits to become citizens. And they say that congress needs to pass laws to show these people how to get in line and to show them where the line is like their opponents. They think that the current system is not functioning very well, but for different reason, and their opponents rich Lowry and Steve Cammarata. They portray citizenship as the most prized possession in the. World. And they say that it is manifestly unfair to give it to people who have not played by the rules and waited in line. Like many have already they argue that enforcement of the current laws is the solution that to try to offer a path to citizenship to eleven million immigrants now would cost a fortune, and that those who would pay the highest price would be the most vulnerable among native born Americans, the poorest and least educated because they would be competing for jobs. I want to go to the team that's arguing for for you to vote. Yes. And bring to you your opponent's argument that it's just basically unfair to those who play by the rules already to let others kind of skip to the head of the line start with U. N G Kelly. What's your response to that direct argument that it's just not fair? Yeah. No, it's, it's not fair to lots of folks, because the laws haven't been updated as I've said for twenty five years, and we have a lot of people in this country illegally who are living with someone who has green card. Or is it a US citizen? They have a qualifying family member. But as I tried to describe maybe not too clearly, what happens is that because they've been here without status. We punish them. There's a penalty. There's a bar ten years without status. So let's say, I have a green card in, I'm Mary, Steve because he's so super handsome, Steve were madly in love right? You've been living here illegally, but I have green card so I could apply for him right now. It's a two year, wait. But let's say that's okay. Now, he has to leave the US to get the green card at the embassy in La Paz Bolivia 'cause he's actually Bolivia and he doesn't look it. And when he tries to do that, they say, no, no, sorry you were here illegally tenure bar. Steve, you're not coming back to Washington to live with your beautiful wife, Angie. That's the problem. Right. So it's not so clean. Right. It's not as if we've got all the undocumented people living in one apartment building just being undocumented. And breaking the law is because we have a broken SIS Arlington. Take a break to rich lower who made the point to regionally and so your opponent is saying that the situation is more complicated than your position allows for a first of all, let me say Steve is a very lucky man. Thank you. Thank you, look, of course, it's unfair Gallup did a survey recently around the world, and they're about one hundred and twenty one hundred fifty million people who want to come here and our opponents position is. Yeah. You get not only just stay, but to become a citizen, if you jump the border or if you overstay your visa now in every particular instances, there may be complications. There may be sympathetic cases but to have that general rule, as, as a matter of category, you're going to make it possible for all these people to be citizens is manifestly unfair. We've all known people who've grappled with the immigration system, which is a nightmare. But most of the people, we know do everything they can to stay within the rules and the idea that legal immigrants are Americans at heart. I think it's a little hard to take their workers at heart. They come here to earn more money than they. Can home and they oftentimes send a lot of it at home, but nine hundred eighty six they were given the opportunity, you can be a citizen. What mattered more to them, staying and working? So this is a key weakness in our opponents case are every single problem. They identify can be dealt with, with an amnesty early goes -ation without going all the way to citizenship. I mean take tomato. Sure a couple of things I would point out one is this this notion. I think what you're saying rich about citizenship. It's not as if people were to become citizens tomorrow. They, they would apply then become citizens tomorrow the last Bill that the Senate passed by bipartisan vote included a thirteen year. Wait this, what we're saying is create a line create a path to citizenship. Let people know what the criteria is that Bill in particular, in every Bill that's been out there has included a penalty background checks people have to show that they've pay taxes. They're all of these things that people would need to do to earn citizenship. And they would be on this path. Which, again, the last Bill long and arduous path what I think I hear rich saying though is that for people in that position. And part of the problem here is we're generalizing about a lot of people. Okay. Let's acknowledge that. So everybody's in different situations, but I think that the bottom line principle, he's saying that if you got if you're here, now in that status, your, your father up in the line than somebody who is, you know, sitting in that who would like to. Yeah. That's, that's a great point. But, you know, this is what's been contemplated in legislative proposals. Is that we clear out the family backlog. Right. So that Stephen, I can be reunited much more quickly, and there isn't a single undocumented person who gets legal status until that family backlog is cleared out, because that's again, the complexity and how these are interlocking these these requirements. You mention they're almost always entirely window-dressing the penalty that illegal immigrants are going to pay. Are you really going to make a poor illegal immigrant pay ten thousand dollar fine here? She can't afford, I ten thousand dollar name in England. Never requirement. They actually learn. They have to go to class. I went to a lot of German classes, I don't speak a word of German and the idea they have to pay back taxes, when most of them, don't earn enough to actually. Oh, a federal income tax liability, in fact, are probably owed money by the federal government in the form of the subsidy. As we give low income workers, all that is boob bait for Bubba to kind of dress up, this proposal and make it sound more appetizing. Let's, let's listen. Angie, respond. Wow. I'm not sure who Bubba is. Look, you don't need to learn German to go to work every day. You don't need to learn German so that you can call a doctor when your baby is sick. But immigrants who are here, they won learn English. They know that, that is their ticket to a better life, and that is a ticket for their children for a better life. So you're. So you're saying. And law is window-dressing say they're going to do anyway, learnings or why pay taxes absolutely that we have to go through background checks that we will know your you're conscious whereas a lot more sense than the status quo where we don't know and they're subject exploitation. And it makes us all more vulnerable. But the bottom line is advocates for the amnesty have focused groups and they know the public likes the idea of saying, hey, they're going to learn English. That's not something that is actually in the Bill. It's something the advocate say the Bill, all you have to do a sign up for class, they're gonna pay taxes, and then it's even imply the pay back taxes. This is just the kind of thing that the Bill actually put people on a path to citizens, and some of them got it very quickly, some of them had to wait a long time. And some of them would have gone, it much earlier than thirteen years. But the talking point is thirteen years. Remember, the Bill as I indicated is this thick no one in this room, including myself can read the whole thing, and even under. Stand it. And that's what we're talking about here can build its impenetrable has that fail from from front and show. Let me say a couple of things this is not just about what the bills and all the various bills have been out there. This is about immigrants who are indeed paying look the institute, fatigue station and economic policy. Not immigrant rights advocacy group. Right. I talked about at the state and local level. Immigrants are actually paying fifty fifty percent compliance. They pay more in income eight percent of their income more than the one top one percent in our country. So immigrants are indeed paying taxes at the federal, state and local level. They every single Bill immigration Bill that has been out there has excluded immigrants from having access to federal public benefits even to ObamaCare. This is the center of capitalism, and even under this administration and undocumented person can't pay out of their pocket to have access to ObamaCare. So this notion that immigrants are taking more from our country is not what the facts are saying. Thing which which would like to respond to save straight. But there's a lot of research on this question. The government actually collects a survey. And it does a dentist by illegal immigrants. It's called the survey of income and program participation, and the fraction of those households receiving various forms of welfare benefits is extremely high. It's over fifty percent that said that high welfare use rate is not, because it immigrants are all lazy, and it's not because the legal immigrants all came to get welfare rather, as indicated it reflects their educational attainment income family size. That's what causes it. If you decide to let every illegal immigrant, stay, you have to understand the given the education. There's an enormous cost for taxpayers. What would Steve generally is really pointing to is their children who yeah. They cost God knows my kids cost. Right. So we can't them as a cost the immigrant household where kids are expensive. But then they want to hurt your argument. Sorry, why doesn't that hurt your sides argument because? All childrens. I mean what would be the alternative right? And all children are costly because we spend money educating them the parents are not eligible for any benefits. We're investing in the kids, who are US citizens who are US citizens. And then when the kids grow up, guess what they do. Well, they earn money, right? And so you have to look at the ledger on both sides. That's one to give me another year because they keep going, they keep pointing to one thousand nine hundred eighty six law known as orca. Right. And what Irqah said this is signed by Ronald Reagan and it gave legal status eventual citizenship for those who took it for people who had been here since nineteen eighty two the law was passed in one thousand nine hundred six you already had four years of people who were here that weren't even eligible and set up something called employer sanctions, where employers had to start asking you for document, which you guys still have to do when you go to a job that you've been accepted, for they, you have to fill out a nine form. But what the law didn't contemplate. Is that people will continue to come? That was the failing it didn't anticipate a future flow. So people would come with smugglers not with visas. That's what has to change and this notion that, that was some kind of magnet. That's not true. There was a lot of research done after ERC past the numbers of illegal crossings actually initially went down again. I'm gonna bring some good points to let your opponents respond kids, do, but the bottom line is with the children of illegal immigrants and enormous fraction. Get all the food assistance pro. Ours are rolled in Medicaid. The family is allowed to live in public houses in many cases and they do get cash benefits on behalf of their US. Born children, is you. If you're a native born person who doesn't have a high school education you to our fiscal drain, but that your birthright to stay here when we're talking about illegal immigrants. That's very different question. I'm John then still to come questions from the audience and the results of tonight's debate on. Dilligence squared. US. I wanna remind you that we are in the question, and answer section of this intelligence squared US debate. I'm John donavan your moderator, we have four debaters two teams of two arguing it out over this motion give undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship. You stand up the Michael come down from your right hand side. I there I am a child of immigrants. My father came in nineteen sixty eight more than twenty five years ago and applied for a visa gotta visa work nights went to school during the day. My dad did it the right way. And the question I have is about fairness shouldn't we reward that path to citizenship? Absolutely. Yeah. And my, my parents actually followed a very similar path. Same here. I completely agree with you. Let's see what the every proposal, let me know that we got clean agreement. Now it makes up to quit. It's a great question. The fairness question is absolutely spot on. And consider this once you've Amnon. Sti ten million people. How do you then enforce they'll all after that, doesn't it make it seem arbitrary? It seems like you're just picking on people because the last time you had ten million illegal, you let them all stay and gave them citizenship. Why would how can you make the case for enforcing the law? Once you've done, this, or can, I think that's, that's a key question and very hard, I cut you off. So you before. And so what the proposals do is they say, we're going to increase these green cards for people who've already qualified right? They have a family member here, and we'll bring them in first and then over time the people who are undocumented can then get their green cards, so they do have to wait in line behind the folks that are part of the backlog. Look, if everyone who comes here is currently isn't legal immigrant as an American at heart. There's a limitless number of Americans at heart living abroad who will come here again. And you solution has to be deportation about, and your terms or laying them all stay. Or become citizens. So, which is it? They should get on a path to citizenship. So everything you're making my point every new person comes every new legal immigrant comes as American at hard will get a job. We'll get embedded very quickly in a community and can sorry I misunderstood. I am not saying that everybody who gets to come who comes into this country without status with illegally is going to be able to get on a path to citizenship. What we've described are people who have been here for many years. People who are committed to this country. They'll show a work history, they'll show that they've been paying taxes, they'll show that they're learning English for more person says. Yeah, I'd like to go to the US one day that doesn't mean that they're going to pick up and move your, that's an exaggeration. But it's got. So please, this gentleman asked the question new illegal immigrants are gonna come unless we establish some utopian system that will never exist where no-one violates along comes here illegally. What are? You going to do with those people. We have an enormous amount of resources going into our border. Right. So there are at this point the lowest rates of unauthorized immigration in thirty years. If people come to this country, and they don't follow the rules, then yes, if they if they don't what time these then. Yes, you should we could we have Lucia do what can move to deport. Those people, too. Poor. You're being few to get worthily knocking about the eleven million who are in the country right now. We are talking about the eleven million. You're not talking about people. People will come in the future. We'll have to come with legal visas. We have a much tighter border now and absolutely at the point of higher where a person has to show that they are here legally, and we go after that employer who goes ahead and hires that person we have an electronic verification system, which I know Steve support that makes a lot of sense, but it has to be combined with legal visas, and why channels enough for people to come to this country, and we have to deal with the people who are here. So what you're saying, is that the situation does not have to repeat. It does not have to be nineteen Ninety-six all over again. We can we're talking about one group of eleven million immigrants. Now and once they're their status is resolved reform would keep the problem you're talking about from eating on that does not seem on pas, retire tape, her sincerity, and earnestness as given. But we've had this experience in one thousand nine hundred eighty six when we're supposed to have a system of enforcement. At never worked. It was never truly implemented. We have a new population of illegal immigrants in the solution is to do exactly what we did in one thousand nine hundred six Phyllis and nineteen Ninety-six, six included employer sanctions, they were not enforced completely agree. But they were employees sanctions, the what we saw was rather than a raid by going after the employer. The Ray resulted in the workers being deported in the employer. Got off Scot free and Mike's coming. Yup. Hello. My name is Shelly to think that more people gathered the citizens shave can help to build a more visit in the worst immigration system, or just a few of them. Get the citizenship and the rest be sent home. Can't how to build a more reasonable system. So if I don't try it all comes down to criteria. We believe that we should come up with criteria to decide who is eligible and undocumented, workers were then have to come forward and prove that they're eligible, and that number whoever is eligible based on the criteria that we have come up with. And frankly, we believe that, that is part of the fairness, people have been here, contributing for waiting for twenty five ten twenty twenty five years without any way to become citizens response. From the other side, the someone is here illegally is basically two reasons. Always running this, somebody either purposefully snuck across the US border or they came on a long. Term temporary visa guestworker foreign student after promising at the consulate overseas that they would go home after a certain amount of time, they broke that promise and chose to stay in the United States. They are responsible for their behavior, if we could encourage more people to go home of illegal immigrants. Then that'd be good for workers good for taxpayers, the public Fisk, and it would restore integrity to assist them badly lacking, just a very minor point. If you make it harder to work here in to get a job people leave, there's been a lot of talk about how the levels of Leila migration from Mexico now are sort of netting out. Two zero people are still coming, but people are also leaving people will leave, okay. I want to give on the last word on says his Maryland people will not leave that strategy. Let me tell you that strategy is called attrition through enforcement Arizona Utah, Indiana, Georgia, South Carolina and Alabama all try we at the national immigration Law Center sued. Every single one of those states it gut struck down in federal court, people did not leave. They have roots in our communities that approach has been deemed unconstitutional by federal courts, because the way it happens in reality is through racial, profiling the way it happens in reality is ripping apart families, and our main plaintiff in Arizona, was a US citizen of Spanish and Chinese descent. Sif comments reminded me of something else. The profile of who is undocumented immigrants. They keep talking about the poor and uneducated etcetera, etcetera, the majority of undocumented immigrants, and actually, the growing number of documented immigrants are from China, and India very, very, well educated, who are overstaying their visas, because they now have deep ties our country and because of political and economic reasons in their home countries, and that concludes round to this intelligence squared US debate. Where our motion is give undocumented immigrants path to citizenship. And now we move onto round three round three is comprised of brief closing statements by each debater. Intern here making her closing statement in support of the motion Mariana in copy in Zecca director of the national immigration Law Center. Thank you, John. Well, you wouldn't know it from listening to the anti immigrant anti refugee anti Muslim rhetoric during this presidential debate. This is an issue that does not matter, whether you are Republican democrat or an independent. It's an issue about people about economic opportunities and our values as Americans, let me level with you. And several of you asked this question, my family and I also came to the United States with a green card. I could argue that we came in, quote, unquote, the right way and be fine with closing the door behind us. But I'm also painfully aware that my parents migrated today, instead of the nineteen seventies, I wouldn't be here with you, my siblings, would not be teachers biochemist health professionals, or small business owners. But I continue to believe in the promise of America. I believe that people like mitt say, there's got an aspiring citizen who's been in the United States for eighteen years should have the same. Opportunities that my family did med said this is a single parent because her husband was deported. Five years ago and she hasn't seen him since then mid says a registered nurse in may. He go and wants so much to contribute in give her skills to this country when we've been on the right side of history. We've updated our laws to include people not to exclude them. Tonight's debate boils down to this, the differences, Angie, and I want mid citizen her family to stay together. They want her citizen children to grow up without their parents are, are to also be deported, the differences. We recognize that America as a whole benefits when people like mitt status can fulfill her full potential, and pay even more taxes are opponents want to deny Americans those contributions, providing a path to citizenship sends a powerful message to undocumented immigrants that we are one community one country. They are part of us, and they should have the ability to be fully invested in the. Country. We all call home, please vote. Yes. For the motion to provide undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship. Thank you and copy. And here to persuade you to vote against the motion in his closing statement. Stephen Cammarata director of research at the center for immigration studies. Well, thank you. And again, I wanna thank intelligence squared. Look, I've spent a lot of time talking about data and why I think that the case should not be that we should let all legal immigrants, stay and give them citizenship. But instead, I'm going to tell you a quick story. True story. Imagine two people came from India as guest workers to the United States, and these people worked as guest workers for the six years that they were allowed now. Remember before coming, they promised a consular officer that they would go home after six years, both of them had girlfriends both of them wanted to stay who can blame them, right? But once said, well, look, I've given my word, I have to go home. I have to buy by the rules, and he went back to India. The other one didn't he didn't get married. He just out with his girlfriend he got a job delivered pizza. And the point is he still here. He's been here. For a long time. He's had several girlfriends in that time period. Now, the thing about it is, if you buy the argument of our opponents, the right thing, the morally right thing to do is to allow the person who violated what he said he was going to do the person who has consistently violated the law for about eight years in this case that person not only gets to stay, but he gets citizenship and the poor slob who did, what he promised who obey the rules is stuck back in India, thinking, what I'm sucker. If I had only broken the law, if I hit, only broken my promise, if our Ponant are successful I could've stayed to, and not just being allowed to stay as a guest worker, I get American citizenship at the end of this process. So when you think about people think about those people, and think about that poor slob in India. Who did what he was supposed to do? And now is so much worse off, if our opponents did get their way. Thank you. Steve camera the motion give undocumented immigrants path to citizenship, and here making her closing statement in support of the motion engine Kelly senior vice president at the center for American progress. Thank you. So the good news is that we can do this, right. We don't have to choose between having border security, or having unlimited number of people coming to this country and a path to citizenship. The best way is to enact reform that transforms. Well, we all agree is a chaotic and broken system into an orderly and controlled one. If we combine enforcement at the border and at the workplace with legalization and citizenship, then we can actually have a sensible system that works for our country. The three legs of legal immigration, dealing sensibly with eleven million and robust security at the border and the place of employment will. Actually, solve the problem and it is a question of fairness. Absolutely people who've been waiting align. Absolutely. We should if they still qualify. Have them come to the United States. How then reunite with family member have them contribute? But it's also a question of fairness of the people who have been in this country because they didn't want to be apart from their loved one because they had to send their kid here because of the violence in their country. And so, what are we going to do with those folks? That's the question you have to answer today is the eleven million. So my husband's in ESL teacher. And he has a lot of immigrant students who've come here from Central America and about a year ago. His student was a senior step on him into his classroom and started crying, and he said I was sent to this country because I was being targeted for being in a gang. He was in a gang. He was being targeted to join. My father just got pulled out of our shop and was shot in the middle of the street. My father is murdered. So Steven didn't know what to do except to keep on working and studying, and he did graduate. And he did go to college. And he did. So because people surrounded him and said, this is someone that we want to invest in the question is, what are we going to do? Are we going to deport the Stefan's? Or are we going to invest in them, and they'll contribute back? Baroness olive wrong. Thank you. Educationally. You're making his closing statement against the motion rich Lowry editor of the national review. I used to do some work with an outfit here in Manhattan. Helping men who might have been temporarily homeless might have had a drinking problem might have had a problem with addiction, get back on their feet and get a job again. These guys were applying to be janitors. They would have been so grateful to go somewhere and sweep of floor and get paid something for it, and what we are doing in affect is importing, a massive amount of foreign labor to compete with those guys. Why of all the people in the country are we gonna have an immigration system that makes it harder on them? We're not doing that to see owes. We're not doing that to lawyers. We're not doing that to accountants and there is no other country in the world that does it this way that just willy nilly lets people come. And stay if they happen to get here Canada. Nice open Candida. What are they do? They actually emphasize skills. They have a system that emphasize bringing the people, they wanna bring who can fry in this country and not make it harder for the people further down the income scale. So I say for that reason, and all the others that we have adduced this evening. This resolution should must an has failed. Thank you, rich Lowry, and that concludes round three of us intelligence squared US debate, where the motion is, is undocumented immigrants of path to citizenship. So I know have the final results. Remember, it's the team whose numbers changed the most between the first and the second vote determines our winner in the first vote on the motion give undocumented immigrants a path to citizenship. Sixty six percent voted. Yes. Agreed with this motion. Ten percent were. Against voting. No. And twenty four percent were undecided. That's the first vote. Let's look at the second vote the team arguing for the motion. Their first vote was sixty six percent their second boat with fifty five percent. They lost eleven percentage points. Let's look at the team against the motion there. I what was ten percent their second vote was thirty seven percent. They went up twenty seven percent. At twenty means the team arguing no to the motion give undocumented immigrants path to citizenship. Our, our winters are congratulations to them. Thank you for me. John donavan and intelligence, squared US. We'll see you next time. 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"Welcome to the show the big game today of course in eighteen first versus second inter perfect domestically take on your welcome in solicitation of ESPN SC. I'm Thomas by Craig Burley Anna Schachter and stop vent very much a big win thinks statement from them into his perfect start the season over under Antonio Context Raza Levers Lions curriculum as he does she know couldn't do a whole lot given that he had to go through grown and stretch celebrations around then FA often into Milan it was the first taste of this big game for Rome Luke offer the former Manchester United Strike at leading the line and he was up against each other from first sinuses leaving Chelsea Dapa given a surprise start for your vendors in place of Ige wine election in one spot on particularly with the Baala alongside Rinaldo bend the dish lineup was real floating around what what man is we take in the second half Gonzalo Iguana would be something in the sixty second minute more from him in a moment and great strike just always on the rice into that would get themselves back into the game and thanks a moment of madness delights you're not sure what he's thinking a tight angle and I'm not sure if Donavan unsighted slightly by the defender see not just beaten appeal piece by develop five minutes later Cristiano Renaldo with the ores out mid week that game against Barcelona reinstated today to this match just four minutes in would see you the best play of the game that would result in a goal for events is twenty four passes leading up to this goal and it's Gone Zala Iguana unique finishes brilliant torch to extra here just here then after what well from because he took it very quickly off to let people know John's ungracious obstetrician from Sarah bringing him off the seven minutes later after another into the chance Keno hit the post took a huge deflection of Believe it is wrong footed You know taking all three points this is a big boy performance was named Craig from the defending champions. 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guys have actually done and I think he falls into that category pretty much forever I think you know they took Barcelona they took on both games come out beaten by being real quality and I think that's the difference between them coming off the bench but I think ultimately for him that could be where he spends most of his time and how is successful for your season meanwhile into how much of a speed bump is this aspirated this season I mean look a home defeat always hurts what when especially when it's up against one of your rivals then can control then enter combat can't bet but then in the second half the money's the game well in money's these substitutions will you brought the right talk and plays on was something special today I thought he took a Tuck too many I thought we kinda sucked allowed US and more entities we but hit Dabo with absolutely no I think the exposes has luck appears not luck experience quality but I think that position in about three just exposures has lack of 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it the awesome that so we didn't learn a very comfortable on as well not expecting goals taking a look at what that means Land League Boston attention over the course of the season it's then into as we mentioned before of course leasings Buffalo Boston action against the via at the camp now one of the big keys between them win the league between now and the end of the season I figured refunders mold your I I I thought you've keeping is just a decision that onomic midfield and their with a brisk it's always equality for Bullard but he's looking to change things up and as you mentioned really been a big talking point recently because he's months all of a sudden has hit form unsure the quality of a player he is incensed impressive for swears over the last couple of ramage rate Folk talk now for Celona Antone Grayson not in the starting eleven drop for this game didn't come on either lying in Oh yeah no question imagine if you had shown up in in in the mix as well he's going to get another showed valverde again is not frightened to make a decision this isn't a surprise surely when he came knew that was the position that it was going to be and so the team right and I think he went full he's obviously gone from the lots out the balance of the team right and the Bayley's performance was okay who who who wasted two three four chances then I think this whole game could've taken a very different turn so there I think there's a real risk that this could turn and then this one just sealed the deal really then three minutes to go she's thrown coach taken down by our phone today on the table of course at one size there in three four the moment how to challenge to take the lead after eleven minutes loop too young with John aims five minutes later falsehoods double lane thanks Vidal well-timed ron new fresh on the boat so you see the severe the break messy free Keiko was insect off but he had to say as in the first half that went over uh-huh officially not lifetime cited where he's hot deplete because obviously you know you've got Louis Juarez's shock Manche who's no Teigen obviously the difference maker again if if they severe had a centre forward a real viable center forward and not look too young ah momentum going so you make on the face of it you gotTa make a big decision you gotta say what's the best thing to try and keep Antoine degrees man happy ought to get the goal wasn't a scintillating performance was across the Suarez golden then go as rarely sending-off overseas not going not going to help them I think Renou as well so they've got their injury problems in that position we all know the quail few of these big big teams are going to be for coming up with the arms off here not enough pressure here chuck the one block runner do anything but just running that it was a fantastic ball on nicer talented going forward but they're going to give up China's and gobs right I mean if severe had more control poison quality then busted up and chasing the game just one four nil against via they have another thing coming those first twenty twenty five minutes I actually thought we saw the same old problems with Barcelona what might meet for him but maybe just that little bit of a week of causes congressman well we we'll have to wait and see but as of right no it hasn't it I mean look at those first couple of goals they bala one not necessarily has fall but it came done over let talk and then you had car then from the right hand side there's just a couple of things me to be like he wants to be an spotlight because I think for a hostel for any professional footballer to be sent off for arguably Spain's top referee he's very experienced you've seen them in the Champions League and I think generally the big thing with him bites the canyon form that we know particularly we go was meant to be against entering and not one today so what do you do Valverde you've got a pressure you are variables if that's was huckabee pray but it's going to be bad robot you you don't get sent off you don't get sent off hasn't worked and maybe the international break will do him just as much good as anybody I'd love to finish defined not tonight we need to find out what Jack it's a long season obviously being out but I just wanted to say like a if there were anybody else it's there and sit on their lore laurels because the season the Champions League follow defensively Bossa by a Munich Real Madrid Manchester City are there's a lot of them the super vest because this referee is very experienced Spanish it always seems to me to be the headmaster it always seems on struggled but as God rightly points out he's going to get a chance now and we could talk to the coast movable damn belly and the ridiculousness of that read having a great game today he said apparently maybe it is because there's suggest that Spanish is limited he simply said you are very bad toys the cool part and a possible to the back and then Dan belly giving us dot absolutely critical men 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your very best of all east the very bad as I mentioned cost the top of the ground with her top also that when yes that I hamstring aggressive way to win I am a bemused as anyone I say how this city team especially with that front three confronts sakes don't score every time they play Geico Presents Monster Counseling Dracula tell me how you're feeling no one understands how known Levi's no one will even let me into their house Prince Liverpool eight points clear at the top of the Premier League after their win yesterday against less I know and then knock but they ignore me what else I look in the mirror I don't even see myself anymore if you don't see he's wide open and then all of a sudden he had just chasing the game again from there but when you when you have the possession that they have your civil clearly can you really expect others to I'm having a breakthrough it's not easy to be a vampire but with Geico it's super easy to switch and save hundreds on your car insurance on you worry for everybody else but all of a sudden wolves somehow September no way that stifles city going forward you know is a progressive manager against bigger teams he's happy to go and and change it around and play on the break those those three clear-cut chances on the break in Manchester City losing at home to wolves by two goals to know what this means is for the first time this season livable off going to school on school bagfuls credit dog app we saw this in wolves last season when they played away play the way Chelsea getting bigger teams wolves hired in the first half thrown in wasting one he meant is I think another that should have been a wakeup call that all day long Otamendi in Vernon Dean sitting ducks back there was no help and you have to find a way to resolve that and your pint is to be something other than you know wolf score four or five favorite's ago and win the Premier League coming in at four to six on city thirteen to ten soft we city on earth happened copen 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Break the Rules #105: Bounce Back from Burnout with Caitlin Donovan

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Break the Rules #105: Bounce Back from Burnout with Caitlin Donovan

"Welcome to break the rules to doctor Laura and Langston a podcast dedicated to quieting the noise in the health food and Fitness World. Dr. Lauren is a leading nutritionists therapist and functional medicine practitioner on a mission to help others thrive in their own lives mind body and soul and now your host. Dr. Laura a machine me now. Hello. Hello. Hello, welcome to another Edition and the Break The Rules podcast. We talked about fighting the noise and in health and fitness world. And today we're offering like talking about some burn out today with Katelyn Donavan was one of nyc's bleeding Brenna experts post of fried the burned-out podcast an author of the balance back ability. Vector said to release summer 2020. So Kate Kaitlyn K. What should I call u k k k in the house today? And I'm excited to dive into this topic cuz I think it's one that a lot of folks can relate to you. Just saying I'm so stressed as a very common thing that is just like saying hi and bye in our society nowadays, and I'm just really interested to know what got you into doing this work you're doing in the world. My master's degrees in Chinese medicine. So I worked as an unctuous internationally between California Poland and the Czech Republic for twelve years and within that 12 years for about eight of it. I was stuck on a burnout cycle and I just realized this recently. I mean, I've been doing this work for about three years now and I kept saying on my own podcast, you know, I've burned out twice I've burned out three times and then I started thinking I I couldn't really know how many times I had burnt out and what that and so I really started to dig into it a little more and it kind of seems like I burned out and then I thought Stayed there for seven or eight years waved in and out of it on this cycle where I was, you know, five or 10% better so assumes that I could handle it and that I was okay again, and then I'd be at full burn out again and then I do some research and I read a book and I get ten to fifteen percent better, but then I'd go back to normal life and and I just stayed on this cycle for way too long. So now I feel like my mission is to get other people off this cycle, especially female entrepreneurs because I think that changing the gender gap and placing power like in women's hands takes money and if we're burning out while we're building businesses, then we don't get that power off. So I want female entrepreneurs to be able to end this for an out cycle and build the businesses that they're meant to build and earn the money that they're meant to earn so that we can take some of that power back so that we can start Shifting the world too long. Direction that it's already naturally going but we need some louder voices and some bigger names in some some more impact and you get that with with big business and money. Let's talk about defining burn em. So you were living in Bernal seven eight years. Is it easy again? Press to say I'm so stressed and I'm feeling burned out what is burnout actually mean both of physiological and mental. If you look at the research the the main researcher for the past 30 years or name is dr. Christina maslach and she defines 3 portions that say, you know, this is burned out and all three of them have to exist in the first one is physical and mental exhaustion which covers, you know, everything off. So so that's kind of funny but it is physical and emotional and and emotional exhaustion. The second thing is cynicism and Detachment. So the negative self-talk, you know sort of birth. Feeling connected to friends and family that's kind of thing. And then the third thing is a lack of feeling impact and accomplishment. So when you have those three things at the same time that's considered burn out as far as the research shows currently, but when I've I read through before I wrote my book. I read almost every piece of research on burnout that I could find full books full research studies. My husband at the time was doing a postgraduate at Cambridge. So I had access to University libraries wage really helpful. So I had you know, the full articles and the full research and I really dug through it and the issue that I see is that we are talking about burnout only in the context of being within a larger organization. We're talking about employee burnout. We're talking about doctors corporate workers nurses things like that, but we're not talking about very often entrepreneurial burnout mom. Now, you know, like all these things that don't fit into traditional structures. That's one problem. The other problem is because everyone's symptoms are so different in Burnout. It's Really hard to create a set of Diagnostics that would work in the medical field. Right now burnout is classified by the World Health Organization as an occupational hazard not as a disease and we are having a hard time figuring out what it means as a disease because it affects so many parts of your body. And the thing that I see happening is the symptoms that come up are things that you had a some sort of tendency to earlier in your life. So say you were in a car accident when you were seven and you had whiplash your burnout will include neck pain in my grades, right or just yeah, right and it doesn't even ask to be yeah exactly some sort of some sort of external stressor. Like it can be very simply you traveled to Africa or Mexico and you had a really severe reaction to some sort of parasite. Your body is now claim that that parasite but burnout still reluctant still ends up in irritable bowel syndrome and diarrhea and constipation for you. So it really depends from person to person the symptoms that I see in mode. People are neck and shoulder tightness almost every single person that fills out my health intake form cliques neck and shoulder tightness foggy headedness. Or some sort of head related foggy headedness or headache or heavy head or difficulty making decisions and thinking clearly like that kind of odd some some sort of brain something and then the rest of it is like yeah willy-nilly. Yeah be multiple what is burnout versus adrenal fatigue and hurt a lot of people and helped world through around that terminology. Are they the same thing? What do you see? I think that the word adrenal fatigue the concept of adrenal fatigue should be updated a little bit. I don't know if you follow a Viva ROM at all. Yeah, so she has a podcast episode on the fact that your adrenals are not tired basically and that yes overworked will break things down. So I think that I think that burnout and adrenal fatigue are very very similar. If not the exact same thing. However, when we're using the when I'm using the word burnout, I'm encompassing a lot more physical physical things because the other thing that I learned through the research is there is some Neuroscience around very long-term chronic stress and what's happening in the brain. So there are some shrinkage of your prefrontal cortex. There's over activity of your limbic system wage lack of connection proper communication between your left and right hemispheres. So there's all these things that are happening in long-term chronic stress that are not necessarily what we would log That are typically adrenal fatigue, right? Yeah and my training we talked about really upgrading that terminology as well. Uh K accident is regularly. Yes, which which this is that's burning a long-term that's for now, but it doesn't have to be burn out in the beginning. It's burn out after a significant chunk of time. Yeah talk about the Tipping Point like what separates like just daily stress off like stress physiological or mental and then like, oh, I'm like over the edge now and like stuck and burn out. So to me, one of the major differences is if you can take a vacation and come back refreshed you were stressed if you take a vacation and you don't come back refreshed your burnt out. Because of vacation is not going to heal your burn out if you say oh I'm burnt out but I went away for the weekend and I feel better. That's not burnout burnout is much more serious than that. Another thing that I think is very significant in Burnout that I seem to be. The only one talking about that I can find is that when you are actually burnt out and your body is just so dead tired. You cannot keep up with the same amount of exercise that you did in the past. So if you were someone who ran a 5K three times a week and it gave you energy when you're burnt out you'll run, you know only 1 and 1/2 miles and you'll come home and need an hour and a half nap if your exercise is causing you to crash you're likely burnt-out gotcha. So it's just kind of like I'm in this whole mouth. How do you coach people about getting out of that place? And I've been there before like you mentioned as well and off. And like whoa my I've just been living in this for a while. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably didn't happen overnight for that recognition for yourself. So talk a little bit about the subway just for of an individual of like hey, am I in Burnout a and then be like, okay now that I'm here, what do I do about it? Yeah. I think the question of Mi and burn off comes down to you you sort of have to test it like am I able to get back to normal ish state of health with relative ease and I took that word on purpose because it's automatically longer-term. It's not just a healing. It's a recovery, you're not going to take a pill and get better. It's a recovery because as you go through on doing all the different things that lead to burnout you'll find other, you know, deeper layers of the onion and deeper layers of the onion and deeper layers of the onion. So I think that wage If you're not if you're really not sure whether you're burnt out you should do everything that you can to try and feel better. And if the typical things aren't working, then you're probably burnt out like for instance. There's all this research that shows that gratitude journals are beneficial to people correct. Like there's there. It's all over the place. You can't get away from it. However, When you're burnt out those kind of exercises don't work for you and it's because you don't have this communication between your left and right hemispheres. So you're not able to logically think about gratitude and actually physiologically feel gratitude at the same time and those two portions are necessary if gratitude is to be a healing factor in your life, but when you're burnt out, I actually have the physical ability to do that. So if you're doing all the things that you're supposed to do you're exercising and you're trying to do the right thing with your diet and your gratitude journal and you're meditating and you still feel like you're probably burned out that's the first part and then you asked another question a follow-up questions like okay. I'm in this little home. Now. How do I like get out of this whole yeah. So the first thing obviously is to realize it. Right and then the next step for me is depending on what's going on in that person's life. What is the easiest way that we can return some energy to them some energy that they're spending in a way that is not useful. So I have a master your own energy course that I send people too often when I don't actually think they need one-on-one coaching because they can just do this course and kind of fill themselves a little bit and we go over all the places that you might be leaking energy physically mentally emotionally and spiritually and try and plug those leaks so that you're not spending energy on things that are shown not vital to your survival at the moment and energy leaks are things like worrying about your cousins decision who lives two thousand miles away who you have no fluids over kind of stuff like we we need to figure out how to how to bring your energy back into your body and take it away from her life and her body because you're not helping her and you're not helping yourself off. We need to look at your the way that your kitchen is set up and make sure that your knives are sharp enough and that you're not wasting time and energy slicing tomatoes with a Dull Knife. I really mean small simple things like this, like really really the smallest simplest things are massively important. If you are frustrated every single day when you cook eggs, because they're sticking to your pancakes go buy a new pan like go buy a new pan. So we do these really tiny things first in order to gain some of your energy back so that we can use more of what you've got to start the healing process energy. Drain your energy Leaf getting those out our awareness to a baseline. Yeah. So one of those are kind of being addressed and just continually addressed what does a recovery or treatment kind of look like out of moving forward. It depends on what's going on in different people. I was like, sometimes there's a physical portion that happens first. So because I have been in Chinese medicine for so long. I always have people do a health intake before coaching calls. And if I see them coaching call that they're dehydrated and they likely have a vitamin D deficiency and according to Chinese medicine. They should be eating warm Foods then before we get into coaching the next step they get some energy back and then we get vitamin D and enough water and warm foods and then we get another little boost of energy and then we can get into some of the coaching and do that kind of stuff. So a lot of times the first step is physical and I often require or request right now. It's a little bit difficult because doctors are not as available. It's Corona time and things are different but I often require people to go see their empties have a full physical do a full blood panel if they have the ability to see a functional medicine doctor. That's my preference, of course because you guys have a totally different and more in-depth view of lab results and woke. We'll need and etc. Etc. So my my preference of people have the finances and the time available to them is for them to see a functional medicine doctor, but at the very least a basic blood panel urine panel so that we can find out what's going on physically in your body because if you're already burnt out so say every day you have a hundred units of energy to spend it. Just you know, hypothetically you get a hundred units when you wake up in the morning if you're already burnt out and there's all these miniature things happening in your body like leaking what you know, you know that something that you talked about on the podcast and that's something that is very important in Burnout when you have things like that going on if you're not taking care of them. It's like you're spending forty units of that energy that you got in the morning before you even start your day and age affecting to be able to spend a hundred so you do but then you're forty in the hole because you weren't paying attention to the fact that it costs you 42 deal with your leaky gut and your birth You know, whatever else is going on, even if it's a pain thing so somebody has shoulder pain. My request is that they go see somebody in deal with that shoulder pain because that's costing them energy every day to heal. I see so helping those individuals just kind of like pick and choose where ya say we had energy and then yeah the proactive step and then restoring the physical body right that that's massively important because I think there's a lot of a lot of coaching that's like mindset mindset mindset like your mindset might be amazing, but you can absorb your nutrients like yeah. Is there any dietary things you see for individuals and burn out and climbing out of burn out whether like diets that they are eating and then effective therapy includes. Yeah. Yeah for Chinese medicine the the basics for the Diagnostics that kind of go with in Chinese medicine that kind of go in accordance with Chinese medicine is basically like suck. Ensues and warming foods and lots of herbs and spices and things like this become really the most important just really basic stuff. Like I'm talking bone broth and barley, you know, really really simple simple food. Yeah, just say he's digestion. Yes for like, I mean how long can a person turning around their burnt out too, especially like seven eight years since they've been living in that state. It takes people from what I've seen over the past few years. It takes people anywhere from three months to three years to recover three years of recovery seems to be most of the time when people are doing it on their own. Can you find that there is a set point that can happen with a long burn out. And the reason why I ask is there are some real life that I read with my own history of anorexia and that when that starts very young for individual and it could be other trauma as well. Got a A sub-point can happen with the cortisol that wage That study did not see a recovery even in recovery, like a person can be filled better. But my cortisol tons of you hire freely off their shoes, but I have a very low cortisol outfit at a physiological level. So just wondering in your research what you found with like really is there a set point for cortisol that there's kind of may be made better, but it's like not still optimal. I don't know too many people that have optimal cortisol. Anyway, that's that's not even thing. I don't know that that's something that American culture can strive for we're not designed. The culture that we live in is not designed in a way that allows us as a general rule to have normal cortisol levels. I don't believe but I do think that they can heal and and continue to get better over time and I have seen that in my own results and impatience. It's I don't think that it's I think a game. You can get us that point but I think you can break through it. But I think breaking through set points like that. Just like you said requires some sort of trauma undoing man. It makes me want to go live in the blue zones and often compare like individuals in the blue zones to our go-go-go society as I think one of the big issues as far as American culture is concerned one of our top 10 American cultural values is individualism. And so we really we really have this belief that we can get through and do everything on our own and that's not how anything happens you can't even eat on your own like it's just the plate that the food is going on was made by someone, you know, so maybe it was made by you but then you have to get the clay somewhere and you had to get the whatever blah blah blah the food on your plate like there's farmers and trucks and truck drivers doors and and and and like there's nothing that we do truly alone. But we I think Americans as a general rule are missing very often this community a.m. Connection because we're so convinced that you're supposed to be able to pull up your bootstraps and and do it by yourself, right? So, how do we even like, I mean we recognize that like, how do we change that or how do you encourage folks to like really switch out Paradigm. So for me that's about finding a very small group of people, you know, four or five months really mini that you turn to all the time that are doing something similar to in some way whether it's you go to the same church or whether it's you all play badminton at the same gym or whether it's just you all walk your dogs at the same time. I don't even think you have to be very close to these people. I think you have to have people that are outside your family that are outside your closest relationships that just exist out for you and making the effort to show up cuz it doesn't automatically generate it doesn't automatically generate but that's why it should be attached to something that's already a natural part of your life. Yeah, so finding dead. Something that you enjoy doing or that you're passionate about and you don't even have to talk to people when you go there for the introverts in the crowd. Like I'm not even saying to talk to these people. I'm just saying if there's a group of people that are four or five deep and they walk their dogs together at 6:00 every day. Just go and let your dog play with the other dogs. I think that's the reason why like social media Outlets are so addicting for folks were made for connection. And even in with the virus quarantine lifestyle just realizing like how much humans value connection I think it's been a great opportunity for our society to see that because we were becoming kind of disconnected in a way and yeah, we're very disconnected. We're very disconnected. My husband is Polish and so one of the things that we both know after I, you know, I lived in Europe for 12 years and now we're back here and one of the big things that we notice is, you know, there's not as much of a fight. In Europe to be like know let us out. I'm not going to put on a mask like because there's there's a deeper sense of community. Naturally. There's a deeper wage is up. We've got to get through this together because they've had to get through together within the past, you know, sixty seventy years. We're not talking major history. Like the United States hasn't had a war on its soil since the Civil War. I mean, we're not we're not accustomed to having to really bands together. And even when we do it's very often a singular state so we don't have it built into our culture and we don't even have it built into our systems. Right? We don't have universal healthcare. Like we don't have we don't have the systems in place or the beliefs in place or there's a structure in place should say that we're here to support each other. We're like, well you didn't make it to the store on time to buy toilet paper. I bought 42 tough. No, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So I think that there's this thing that started out as a positive thing this sort of American independence pull yourself up by your bootstraps, and I still think has some positive value to it, but I think it's very often mental in a lot of areas, but it's so deep into our genetics at this point. That is what we do naturally and especially when we're entrepreneurs we're going to do the marketing ourselves and the social media ourselves and we're going to do the we're going to wear all the hats and then wonder why we're exhausted talk a little bit about that mentality that individualism and just the way that we maybe our work habits or even like I'm thinking like exercise and dietary Habits Like how that shows up of just kind of taking our house into our own hands and I'm going to Doctor Who took this and just force my peg into a round hole or try to make this work for my body. Yeah. I think that that's like totally spot-on. I mean, there's so little Natural reach out for help to one of the reasons that I was stuck on a burnout cycle because also and also especially amongst in the healers like amongst us because we've learned all settings, maybe not all the things but a lot of the things and we have this feeling that this shouldn't be able to happen to us because we have the tools when you finish Chinese medicine school, you're already a Stress Management expert. It is part of Chinese medicine and has been for a couple of thousand years without necessarily using that word, but that's a normal part of our thoughts in so, how could I as a Stress Management expert? How could I let this happen to myself? So I didn't reach out for help. First of all because I can do it on my own and second of all because I didn't actually believe it was happening to me because I had a job that I loved I was making good money. I had a quote unquote good life. I had all the things I literally had a friend tell me. Yeah, but you have everything that everybody wants but my body hates me and I feel terrible exactly at what cost wage at what cost so I think that and I think the other thing about individualism that I think is really important is that when you're making an assumption that you've done everything by yourself and that you can do everything by yourself you tends to suck notice the other things that people do for you and therefore you miss opportunities to be grateful and connected and I think this is really really important because when I was burnt out, I natural I'm female and I took a majority of the responsibilities in the household. I felt like I was working less hours than my husband which meant I had more responsibility in the house and I made that rule myself. He did no, He was like get a housekeeper and I was like I have to do the laundry because I'm home at 4 and you're not home until 5:30. You know, I didn't I made these rules in my own body and my own mind off and because I made these rules and I had all these things that I wanted to prove to him what I was doing and show him that I was doing all these things for us. I didn't notice all the things that he was doing for us because I was so focused on what I was doing that I just really didn't notice like he is always the one that fills up the dog's bowl before we go to bed. I do not notice if it's empty before going to bed because down somewhere in my brain. I knocked that off my list of things to do because I know he's going to do it but I didn't consciously realize that he was doing it while I was burnt out because I have not pay attention to the things that he's doing and so you get it's really hard for you to receive when you're burnt out and I think that that's also really closely related to that sense of individualism because if I'm getting that job Other people and I'm getting help then I must be week. So really just like being connected with others and reaching out in that state of burnout could be a way out of burnout itself and perhaps even though sometimes I do ask depending on what the situation is. I do ask people to pull away from some of their friendships for a month or two while we're doing the healing because very often I work with people who are over givers. So while they're still in these relationships, they feel responsible for providing in those relationships and we need to break that down all about balance. Yeah home. Where can people find out more about you and the awesome work you're doing in this field of burnout. So everybody can find me at at Kate underscore Donovan or at fried the burnout podcast whichever is easier to remember and so I think that's the best place to to connect. Well, I'll definitely putting links in the show notes and thanks again so much for your time today. Thanks for having me was awesome. Wow Wow song

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"Donavan Jordache versus its course facebook gets super find and Google's assistant will stop talking to you about your lighting. This is daily Tech News for Wednesday July twenty four thousand nine hundred in Los Angeles on Merit and from Studio Feline. I'm Sarah Lane Salt Lake City. I'm Scott Johnson and from sweltering southern California son on the show producer Roger Chain now underneath under should be surprised that a guy I from Salt Lake City could instruct about salt and pepper shakers but on Good Day Internet today Scott blew our minds about how salt pepper shakers work if you if you must know become a subscriber patriot dot com slash however for this this show let's start with a few things you should know Google launched gallery go which is a way to organize and edit google photos on a phone when offline uses ten megabytes of space and enhance and apply filters to photos well using machine learning to organize them gallery goes available on the play store for phones running android eight point one Oreo or newer netflix launched previously unannounced or excuse me announced mobile only service in India for one hundred ninety nine rupees a month. That's that's about three bucks U._S.. Previous test of the service had been more expensive than new net flicks. Here in India is less expensive than hot star but more expensive than Prime Video S._E._O.. Tony Sioux Road on twitter that the company will change agents practice if keeping customer tips rather than adding them to the delivery drivers pay you wrote <hes> that the new model will ensure that workers earnings will increase by the exact amount of customers tips on every order adding adding. We'll have specific details in the coming days okay well. I can't wait to hear those details door. Dashes practice of keeping tips was covered by N._B._C. News in February and again by the New York Times this weekend so good for you door dash right moved to make speaking food delivery open tables updated APP now includes food delivery through partnerships with Uber eats caviar and grab hub for more than eight thousand restaurants and ninety U._S. cities open table plans to show estimated delivery times and costs and future updates that would be helpful but no word if and when the new delivery feature will come to its android up well speaking of food on things. I don't know that try not to get food on your Nintendo switch but vices reporting that Nintendo is fixing switch controllers with joy con drift for free. If I haven't heard of joy con drift a little pads your your analog sticks are starting to drift a little bit and move and places. They're not supposed to a memo obtained by vice also instructed Nintendo employees to refund any previous repairs for the same problem several users have reported joy con controllers becoming unreliable and sometimes pointing in random directions when not in use <hes> it's my favorite fast and furious movie joy drift. It was really good. They never got his good. Is that again. Hob Sean Mario so good all right. Let's talk a little bit more about that big facebook fine. Let me tell you it has been enjoyable for me in a way to watch the press just slobber over themselves about the five billion fine to the point that the actual announcement of the fine left them hard up for headline ideas today because they had already announced it was coming so many times <hes> but it's now real facebook has agreed to pay five billion dollar fine to the U._S.. Federal Trade Commission and submit to an oversight regimen that will last twenty years ears for violating the previous F._T._C. Agreement <hes> because it collected phone numbers for security but used the numbers for advertising purposes without disclosure lot of confusion a lot of assumptions love jumping to conclusions about what facebook is being fined for. It's being fined for the phone number thing that is the one inexcusable thing in my opinion that it has done which is tell you you needed a phone number for security and then use it for advertising <hes> so they rightly being punished for that and because it violated a previous agreement there being punished with a large amount the fine is twenty times more than the previous highest penalty from any privacy regulator in the world. It's also less than facebook skew on profit off it. FACEBOOK's board must now establish an independent Privacy Commission to Remove C._E._O.. Mark Zuckerberg control over decisions affecting user privacy compliance officers from facebook must submit quarterly certifications that the company is following F._C._C. Mandates regarding privacy advocacy an independent assessor will review facebook's privacy program twice a year and on the same day not related to the settlement facebook has announced at stopping potential access to friends lists by Microsoft and Sony <hes> that was due due to some old code we don't know if Microsoft and Sony we're taking advantage of the access but they still had it and now they don't they have changed that Bloomberg points out that facebook is already doing a lot of what was mandated for instance. The Privacy Review Facebook said it may twenty eighteen it launched a product division focused focused on privacy. I'm sorry they've been doing reviews. Since two thousand eighteen in launched a product division focused on privacy last year greater oversight of third party use of data basically facebook has restricted what A._p._i.'s could do including that change that we just mentioned about Microsoft and Sony <hes> there's a notice on facial recognition in the decision users can already opt out and there's a hell page explaining how the technology is used <hes> and they'd already set aside three billion dollars for the fine awhile ago so you you could argue whether this is going to hurt heard facebook or not but it certainly is not a pleasant thing. It's not something they want to do and it will make facebook hold up to privacy policies more strictly than they would have without it yeah. I think a lot of people are like five billion dollars. That's so what it's not a lot to facebook. But how does this change how the company can do. It's business moving forward and I think that's the bigger question and some of this may be posturing but it does sound like if if if government regulation is is going to be so stringent for facebook in the future based on what we've already heard it it it made it made squelch what facebook canoe yeah I was surprised by some of the language in here is interesting. <hes> removing Mark Zuckerberg Bergh <hes> having control over decisions affecting privacy control yeah direct control right <hes> that's interesting because if you are in a company where he is still founder C._E._o.. <hes> and whatever rules are in place to sort of you know dictate who he is what he is to the company now. It's still seems like if there's an entire division dedicated to consumer privacy. I just not involved in that any more involved. That's why it says direct control. This is a really good point to get to get a little clarity on <hes>. It's not that sucker. Berg can't say what the privacy policy will be. He just can't be the last word on it. He could say what the privacy policy will be and it has to go pass this independent privacy commission and they put the rubber stamp and go. Yes you can do that <hes> he's also got this these other compliance officers who have to look at what's being done in report on it and say Yeah Okay we're still meeting the terms of our agreement <hes> so in other words he he can't just decide on his own what that privacy policy will be be honest. FACEBOOK book has done a lot over the past two three years to change how they deal with privacy to the point that other than the fine. I don't think they're going to have to change things a lot. A lot of the articles I've been reading are bemoaning that this won't affect Doc facebook AD revenue it won't make them change how they behave but again remember what they're being punished for is specifically saying they were collecting phone numbers for one reason and using them for another and so the punishment is. Is Meant to focus on stopping them from doing that again. It's not meant to reduce the amount of money they can bake or or change. The way facebook operates as a business well and for the last year and some change facebook has been very vocal about how it wants to change. It's business yeah sure data's a big part of face business but the company is trying to double down on cryptocurrency trying to double down on the idea of people being more private <hes> in their exchanges using the platform so the company understands understands that things may change still want their bottom line to be <unk> sky-high which it has been and again this fine is not really going to eat into facebook's bottom line all that much but but <hes> If if if the company is forced to do do things differently in order to maintain a certain amount of revenue can they do it. Yeah well turns out. Yes the answer is they're. They're doing fine. facebook rewarded cue to revenue sixteen point nine billion up twenty eight percent year over year Ad Revenue Rose Twenty eight percent euro year to sixteen point six billion monthly active users of facebook rose eight percent year over year to two point four one billion daily active users rose eight percent to one point five nine billion year over year <hes> and and <hes> we would be remiss if we didn't point out the facebook also paid another very much smaller one hundred million dollars to the U._S.. Securities and Exchange Commission over misleading disclosure related to Cambridge analytic as misuse of data <hes> it wasn't about the fact that the psychology professor gave gave the data to Cambridge analytica without permission. It was the fact that when the S._e._C. was investigating this <hes> facebook described it as hypothetical <hes> when they knew that it was real so they're getting punished for one hundred million dollars for that well in earnings report land snap reported a loss of six cents per share and revenue of three hundred eighty eight million dollars beating expectations of a loss of fourteen cents a share and revenue of three hundred sixty million dollars snapchat added thirteen million Ryan daily active users in the quarter to reach two hundred three million overall biggest quarterly gained for the company since Q. Two of Twenty Sixteen so if you wondered if snapchat was doing okay they're doing okay. The audience watching discover video grew thirty thirty five percent year over year and time spent on video on snapchat grew sixty percent euro rear. Why do people watching video this <hes> <unk> particular statistics stuck out to me more than seventy five percent of the thirteen to thirty a four year old population in the U._S. is active on snapchat? That's why all of us and most of you listening or watching or like really are people using snapchat for real the ages thirteen and thirty four. That's sure I mean my kids nineteen twenty two twenty five hate snapchat but it's you know that's but very small sample group. I can't really say one way or the other but I do have a theory but I'd like to Posit <hes> <hes> I have noticed because I consume a lot of other APPS and other video services. I've noticed a lot of people will spend time creating video using filters in snapchat because there's some of the best ones in goofiest ones and weirdest ones and then they take that content they save it out to there to their phone and then they take that content and posted on Tick Tock. They posted on instagram. They posted wherever else they're being. They don't crop it right so you're like. It's the telltale snapchat we're totally quality is not always great. There's always there's weird art effecting issues but it does seem like I guess I I'm asking the question. Do you think Tom any of this is people being active using what snapchat and do but not necessarily spend a lot of time in snapchat itself well yes. I'm sure that is part of this but also I don't think it makes up the majority of it especially when you see discover video growing thirty five percent year over year in time spent on that video growing sixty percent right yeah people are doing that. They're doing that because they use snapchat regularly and like it's filters. I don't think people do that if they're like well. I never use snapchat because they wouldn't be able to keep up on the filters. They wouldn't solution raid the you can you can you can be on the APP on a daily basis and never really contribute to anything <hes> but you're still counted as the daily active user month the octave user that's kind of the way that I use instagram stories quite honestly I very rarely post and I'm pretty active in consumption and that is still that is that is a very strong metric for the company snap sure well <hes>. Let's move onto another kind of thing you can put your eyeballs on the net Amazon's third generation kindle oasis now can adjust the color temperature of the display tinting it yellow on like <hes> phones night modes and stuff like that. You're certain seeing operating systems <hes> I._O._S.. Has that excuse me Mac O._S.. As that thing called nightshift left on the desktop which lets you kind of yellow. Everything little easier on the is <hes> anyway. It's designed to cut down blue light for reading at night since less belied has shown to be a positive effect on sleep schedules and ice train but the verges review the new oasis notes the warmer Hugh makes it look more like real paper than ever even during the day the kindle oasis hardware as otherwise unchanged from two thousand seventeen and a two hundred fifty bucks almost twice the cost of the very popular Amazon paper white e reader also in the kindle line. That's the one I have and <hes> it doesn't bother me so I don't know why would need this. <hes> for whatever reason I am sensitive to blue light on phones tablets and computer screens l._e._d.. Screens it does bug me oftentimes. I'll wear like gun or sow glasses sort of eliminate some of that strain ironically. I'm not today but I do have nightshift running as an alternative but when it comes to the kindle I this problems I I mean for me. It wouldn't be worth the two fifty. I'm sure somebody else out there. Those GonNa benefit in a way that was kind of the the the point that the review was making his the didn't realize how nice it was until they saw that sort of yellowish hugh bringing it down so that it felt more like paper than ever because it's sort of like like before we got a lot of retina screens dealt with the text the way that you saw it but then when you get that you go oh this is so much better. It's like you know it's like a real book and as somebody who do I don't read a I try not to read a ton kind of at the end of the day for this very reason you're think okay well. The people read lots of different ways but saying that okay if you've got a kindle oasis and you really care about your eyes and maybe you were going to be reading for. I don't know an hour or more at a time this this would make a big difference. No matter what time of day Tom Nice all nice deep cut their point to do that. I will add that the whole point of the Kim kindle originally was the eating in display was not in l. c. and so when you look at it doesn't have the same impact on your eyeballs in fact it was supposed to be very close to paper a reflective of an display it still is it's just a matter of maybe we have backlit and backley changes that equation a little bit. You're getting e would normally get and so this sort of answers that if you're talking about using it the pool or whatever you're not gonNA get any change. Let's give them the yacht rock mode here. I like it. Tom Is on one right now. Tom This might actually keep the party. Go and Google assistant on the Google home and nest have devices well now respond to voice commands about lights lights. You WanNa turn them on. Turn off dim them. Maybe make them brighter with chime. Rather than a repeat of the command. Some people did not like that the change effects any command control and lights including on an office wolves brightness Google also announced the ten inch Nesta tax will launch on September ninth in the United States the United Kingdom and Australia. Yeah I did this a long time ago. When the echo gave you the option for all your commands to be like we'll just respond with the chime unless you're asking a question that we need to answer with the voice voice and that ends up being mostly turning light on and off to be honest or setting timers and stuff like that Google seems to be doing it a little differently? They're not giving you a choice. They're just doing it for lights automatically yeah but but still yes you. You don't need your device to say <hes> when you say turn on the lights turning on the lights like just you just yeah tone to make sure that you Kurd the response because sometimes the light doesn't go on and I get the chime and then I okay the problem is not the echo the problems the light something is up with that sure for my live with that segment that is currently ongoing. I'm testing out some smart bulbs in the home and that was one of the things that I it was one of my immediate it like I. I note says it's very annoying when she says okay. I'll dim the lights. I'm like I know just do it so so eventually thinks got you had the same this this happened to. He was well eventually Amazon's assistant because that's one that I'm using with my Sonos ones said hey if you don't want me to do this I could just chime rather than talk to you. Every time I I perform a command that has to do with smart bulbs and I was like Yup and and that was a real game changer for me. It was like a magical moment because I'd never up to that point. I hadn't heard about it before but up to that point my echo had never said hey this thing I normally say to you. I can now just make a sound. Would you prefer that that was like a moment of you. Know What Smart Okay I- Assistance are actually getting kind of cool like the fact that they say that give me a choice <hes> have this new way of interacting with it is great. It also shows their commitment to the platform than Google as well with their homes home systems so this is nothing but cool to me for me was just like Oh wow what really okay yes please again yeah and for anybody who's like. Was It really that big a deal. No it wasn't but every once in a while any kind of get into bed and you're ready to turn off the lads and you just you just don't need because you don't remember how loud the volume was the last time you left it. You just don't need a voice shouting at you like ultra lights now. The Straw was not a big deal the first time it went on the camel's back but after after a while or camel well folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes be sure to subscribe to daily Tech Headlines Dot com the U._S.. Department of Justices Antitrust Division has launched launched a review to quote consider the widespread concerns that consumers businesses and entrepreneurs have expressed about search social media and some retail services services online now that's kind of a passive aggressive way of saying Google facebook and Amazon and I don't know maybe apple the review will look at whether online platforms have quote reduced competition stifled old innovation or otherwise harm consumers because antitrust law in the United States is very focused on consumer harm the D._O._J.. Did Not name any of the companies however U._S.. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin who's not in the D._O._J.. Part of the government he's in the Treasury Three Department told C._N._B._C. that Amazon by name quote destroyed the retail industry across the United States and that it's appropriate for the Attorney General to investigate it and other tech companies <hes> so I you know I I think reduced competition. I think we all look at this and go yeah. Google search pretty dominant whether it's abusing its market dominance is maybe different question. <hes> certainly Amazon is is very dominant in retail facebook very dominant and social networking <hes> but the stifling stifling innovation one is is of more interest to me. I think it's not cut and dried but it's very easy to have the conversation about market dominance and competition whether these companies have actually stifled innovation which you also hear a lot of people <unk> saying I think it's harder to say and harder to tell yeah I mean that's the I have been wrestling with us since we started talking about it way early today when pre prep was being made for the show and I still kind of struggle with it because on the one hand I think Google or excuse me Amazon finds itself in its dominant position primarily because it's done a really good job of giving people what they want not only anticipating what people want but then delivering that and then some <hes> it doesn't feel like they got their through unfair practices. They were like any other online retailer. <hes> and there were many many pretenders to the throne. Why did they do well? I don't think it was because of anything nefarious various but now they're in this position of dominance which often happens you know if if you're brick and mortar retail was dominated by Walmart chances are Walmart was giving really good prices and other reasons why people went there all the time same thing happens with any kind of dominance <hes> <hes> and certainly the tech industry is no stranger to this but in their particular case. I'm torn because I don't I don't want it to I don't want this situation to stifle innovation as as being charged or to stop competition as it's being charged whether are those things are true or not as we could have an argument but at the same time I don't know penalizing them for being really good at the business they built well but that's antitrust that that's what antitrust is for antitrust doesn't mean you are a jerk work on the way up. It doesn't mean you you used questionable tactics on the way up. Antitrust is not making a moral judgment antitrust is saying you are this big and you are. Nobody can best intentions nations using your dominance to harm the consumer that maybe even unintentionally you're driving out competition in a way that harms the consumer or your accidentally stifling innovation right like we need to get away from everything being a moral argument between it doesn't matter whether these companies are evil good or otherwise if they're in fact stifling innovation or suppressant competition in a way that harms consumers that's a violation of addressed yeah but I think about <music> out and I'll use Amazon as an example again even though I know that this is not the only company that that is being looked into no the idea of Amazon harming the retail world as we all knew it as consumers. It's that's absolutely true it has it really harmed me or has it made my life easier questionable and I know that your mileage may vary but but but the idea of harming consumers I feel like a lot of it is it harms the consumer experience as we've known on it for some time which now is not dead but it has it has dwindled quite a bit and certain markets. I believe the consumer doesn't even have to be aware of the harm yes. That's one of the easiest ways to tell if there's consumer harms the consumers out there going hey I don't. Like this but to other retailers innovation for instance the consumer wouldn't know like I didn't know that I could have had an option right so so it doesn't have to be just consumer complaints but I look at the nineties and I think of H._p.. And I._B._M.. and Microsoft Microsoft particularly in the nineties dominating the landscape and there was no room for anyone else to move in in the monopoly concerns about Microsoft we're very real and we started wanted to have cases about them in the two thousand but we started to have these cases come to court right as the market was changing because of new technology. It's not like the Internet was new but Google had started to make use of it in a new way Amazon had been making use of it. A new way facebook was just about to start making use of it in a new way and I think we're back to that mid-nineties where it feels like well. That's it. There's no more new ideas. There's no more innovation <hes> but I think that's just part of a cycle where companies get big and they dominate for awhile and then the question is will we get our next round of Google's and facebook's Amazon's that come up with new technologies or exploit new technologies or these big companies get a little bit of inertia and don't can't move fast enough to deal with younger faster companies <hes> right now. It may not feel like that but I didn't feel like that in the nineties either until suddenly it changed yeah I mean in the Microsoft examples the one that always pops up and and you could at least in that case point two practices that you would say oh well. They're making it so the default browser is this in every operating system that is anti-competitive because nobody in the right mind is GonNa Click on anything else or no enough off at least at the time while I'm going to refine this fire Fox have so much about or whatever they're just went okay with mud works but if I may interrupt just briefly that's still the case wind is still the dominant operating system and the default browser is edge it is it is it though yeah it is but is it the same as it used to be the chain where people realize oh but I don't want that I want chrome and that's what we have trump to dominant but because people are choosing now that's a good point. I'd really considered it that way but <hes> at the time I think this stuff can change. It's fluid right at the time it felt like they were being unfair. What their dominance with the browser and you could point two things and say well it goes to their landing Pedraza M._S._N._B._C. Your M._S._n.? Dot commodores and that's also their own product and they encourage it use their search engine choice in all this other stuff like I feel like that was bad for the time but now everyone's smarter more adaptive and we are using other browsers and stuff maybe part of that because they were forced to back down especially in the U._k.. I Dunno but in this particular case we're talking about a place where I buy my dog food where I get the best deal on the particular thing I want where I also use some other services and they work out pretty well L. with some of my smart home devices and and all of that it doesn't feel they just they just feel like they moved with the industry. They gave me better prices. They gave me free shipping. They did things I want and it feels weird for them to punish. I'm not like super WPRO Amazon or anything. No No. I'm not saying this isn't the one time that it's not that the cycle <hes> doesn't work out that way. Maybe it is. Maybe maybe something does need to be done this time but it's not just been technology. I mean Walmart was considered to dominant in the retail space. Well and then Amazon came along and now it's not considered to nominate in fact it's considered one of the few competitors that can challenge Amazon so these conditions do change and current conditions. Don't stay consistent insisted. They don't stay the same. I think that's important when evaluating these kind of claims to take that into account of like yeah it may be bad right now but as a look like it's going to stay bad. It's hard to say you know that's that's always part of the problem with these things. Well thanks to everybody who participates in our sub read. It's we talk about these stories. They're often and you are to thank for that. Submit stories and vote on others at daily tech new show dot ready dot com or else on facebook join our group. If you haven't already facebook dot com slash groups slash daily tech new show. We got point counterpoint going on in the mail bag today yeah so we talked yesterday about electric trucks a listener who wanted to remain anonymous wanted to add to our electric Ford F one fifty discussion that was yesterday says says I work for a municipality in Texas in our fleet is mostly f one fifty two F. Four fifty trucks. My City also generates its own electricity ninety five percent renewable with one hundred percent renewable coming in the next for years we cycled through these forty thousand one dollars diesel and gasoline trucks every eight years or so putting little mileage on them but lots of work and idle in hours. I hope at some point we can transition to all of these vehicles to electric may not make sense to own an electric truck as a consumer but it may make sense that tax schaller's be spent this way but John Road in and said now hold on while the average truck user could probably get by with an electric Ford. There's still a big outlier that may never get solved trucks. Get used in in areas and ways that preclude any kind of charging. It's not just the range. Even if you had a five hundred mile range you can find yourself in a pasture feeding cattle or back road plowing snow and not enough charge to make it back in fuel-powered truck you feel a can and bring it to the vehicle if they could make the batteries modular and removable or an emergency battery plugged in you could possibly partially solve it but nobody who depends on zero downtime. We'll go electric even with that. Anna Gassar diesel truck it just gas up and go I only see it viable with fully replaceable fully modular field swap -able batteries and we're a long way off from that in the Ho- Mojo I agree with him by the way I think that's the that's when that stuff takes off like crazy batteries man Dan making them higher capacity making them easier to charge making them hot swap -able like he's talking about like and I like the John's nuts it saying like and therefore electric trucks will never work he saying yeah but in this use case they their technology still still has a ways to go before they can replace I would say John is part of the solution Tom Problem no thanks to anonymous and John for reading than about this and we got a few others as well and also thanks to Scott Johnson for being on the show today Scott where people keep up your work well they can head on over the frog pants dot com as usual. 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13:46 min | 11 months ago

Senderos de La Vera. E04 Amanecer de un tiempo nuevo.

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Gesetze drfen auch mal der Gesellschaft voraus sein

Avenir Suisse Podcast

13:56 min | 1 year ago

Gesetze drfen auch mal der Gesellschaft voraus sein

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"Outrun the T-Rex!" - Steven Spielberg

Pick the Brain

23:56 min | 1 year ago

"Outrun the T-Rex!" - Steven Spielberg

"Welcome to the pick. The brain podcasts where we pick the brains of the brightest minds in the areas of health self-improvement productivity and kicking ass at life. Hi, Jeremy Fisher, always alongside my co host Aaron falcon. All right here in today. We're going to hear part two of the Steven Spielberg speech. He's got some life advice forests. And when we finish hearing what he's got to say, I will complete the thought that I had in the last episode who were kind of talking about finding your identity inside yourself without it being disrupted by outside influences, man, that's hard to describe. Okay. Well, Jerry, I'm so excited to go into this shows talk, but I need to bring something to your which is equal parts. Paris in flash. Larry I was going to my Twitter feed. And I just found this tweet from act donavan who says act pick the brain disrespected the whole football slash shocker community. When you said Fifi your latest episode four rules for life from Olympic gold, medals. Now, Jeremy I am somebody that likes to promote taking personal responsibility. And I would love to jump in on the responsibility train. But as we both know, I am not a big sports fan. So this is please respond to Donohoe at donavan. This is unfortunately, pointing out the typical ignorant American that has no idea about any sports that are outside of the US. And not that you know, we call it soccer not that soccer's not happening in the US. But yeah, okay. I missed it's it's like calling it sauce. It is. It's like it's like saying instead of football. It's calling it fought ball or something. It's like what are you talking about? Dude. I will have to apologize for being ignorant calling it FIFA instead of fica I will from here on out. No matter what say fee, unless I just wanna get on your nerves and say five typical annoying Americans. Please keep these tweets where you slam Jeremy coming keep it up. You gotta hold me accountable. If I'm in idiots guide to get close to the number of comments. So far mister nice guys way behind don't be so hard on yourself. If it walks like adak. All right. All right. Well, let's go before we get to sidetrack. Let's go ahead and here part to Steven Spielberg speech. I spoke about the importance of intuition, and how there's no greater voice to follow. That is until you meet the love your life. And this is what happened when I met and married Kate, and that became the greatest character defining moment of my life. Love support. Into. All these things are in your heroes quiver, but still a he needs one more thing a hero needs villain. Tha banquet. And you're all in luck. This world is full of monsters, and there's racism, homophobia, ethnic hatred class Atri, there's political hatred and there's religious hatred. As a kid. I was bullied for being Jewish. This was upsetting. But compared to what my parents and grandparents had faced it felt team because we truly believe that anti semitism was famed fading. And we were wrong over the last two years nearly twenty thousand Jews have left Europe to find higher ground and earlier this year, I was at the Israeli embassy when President Obama stated the sad truth. He said, we must confront the reality. That around the world and semitism is on the rise. We cannot deny. My own desire to confront that reality compelled me to start in nineteen Ninety-four the Shoah foundation. And since then we've spoken to over fifty three thousand holocaust, survivors and witnesses and sixty three countries and taken all their video testimonies. Gathering testimonies from genocides in Rwanda Cambodia our media in men king because we must never forget that the inconceivable doesn't happen. It happens frequently atrocities are happening right now. And so we wondered not just wind will this hatred end. But but how do the begin? Now. I don't have to tell a crowd Red Sox fans that we are wired for tribalism. But beyond rooting for the home team tribalism has a much darker side instinctively, and maybe even genetically we divide the world into us and them. So the burning question must be how all of us together. Find the we how do we do that? There's still so much work to be done in sometimes feel the work hasn't even begun. And it's not just anti anti semitism that surging Islam phobias on the rise too. Because there's no difference between anyone who is knitted against whether it's the Muslims or the Jews or minorities on the border states or the LGBT community. It is all big one hate and. To me. And I think all of you the only answer to more hate is more humanity. We got a repair. To replace fear with curiosity us and them will find the weed by connecting with each other. And by believing that we're members of the same tribe, and by feeling empathy for every soul, but make sure this season just something that you feel mega something you act upon that means vote peaceably protest speak up for those who can't and speak up for those who maybe shouting, but aren't being heard let your conscience shout as loud as at once if you using it in the service of others, and as an example of action in service of others, you need to look no further than this Hollywood worthy backdrop of a Moyal church itself. Wall bears. The names of Harvard alumni, like president Faust as already mentioned students and faculty members who gave their lives in World War. Two all told six hundred and ninety seven souls. Who wants to tread the ground where we stand. Now, we're lost in at a service in this church in late nineteen forty five. Harvard president James Coenen, which present Faust also mentioned honored the brave called upon the community to reflect the radiance of their deeds seventy years later. This message still holds true because their sacrifices not debt that can be repaid in a single generation. It must be repaid with every generation just as we must never forget the atrocities. We've never forget those who fought for freedom. So as you leave this college and head out into the world to please to reflect the radiance of their deeds or as captain Miller and saving private Ryan would say earned this and please stay connected. Please never lose icon ttacked. This may not be a lesson. You wanna hear from a person who creates media, but we are spending more time looking down at our devices than we are looking at each other's eyes. Forgive me. But let's start right now, everyone here, please find someone's is to look into students and alumni and YouTube president fells. All of you, turn to someone. You don't know or don't know very well. These daddy behind you. Or a couple of rows ahead. Just let your eyes meet. That's it. That emotion. You're feeling is our shared humanity mixed in with a little social discomfort. But if you remember nothing else from today, I hope you remember this moment of human connection. And I hope you all had a lot of that over the past four years because today you start down the path of becoming the generation on which the next generation stands, and I've imagined many possible futures in my films, but you will determine the actual future. And I hope that it's filled with Justice and peace and Finally I wish you all a true Hollywood style. Happy ending. I hope you outrun the t Rex catch the criminal and for your parents sake. Maybe every now and then just like ET, go home. All right, Erin. We just heard the remainder of that speech. But before we talk about what we just heard, of course, have to complete my thought, so. We were talking about finding your identity in one of the things that I wanted to mention which I think is super important because I've had to go through this experience myself, which is like eliminating a lot of the outside influences, and basically retraining myself to think things that I was taught correctly by like other people, you know, I had I had adults in my life whose opinion as I was growing up. I took for granted. And they were completely wrong. As I got older, I've had close family members that are racist close family members that have religious intolerance in their daily lives, close family members that just few the world through their own little Lynn's and have no been mindedness to other people in as I got a little older, I had to break free from a lot of that. That. Of course, we've talked a little bit about recognize what types of decisions you're making in draw. See if you can find a root cause for why you're thinking that way, if they're your own thoughts or someone else's there's someone else's really analyze it. But one of the things I wanted to mention which is super important. There are some things for my upbringing that came from other people that I even though might not have been my original thought, I've made them my original thoughts because of analyze them of realized that there good thoughts to have and kept them in one of the examples of that is I was grow our grew up in a religious organization that was very close knit with community in one of the things that they thought was really important is spirituality, and basically spending time a lot of times, we talk about meditation and focusing on yourself, whatever your version and worldview is of how you believe you exist here. One of the things that they were very emphatic about is connecting with something larger than yourself and. Basically making sure that you have a Ray regular ritual practice where you connect with that. And that's one of the things that I have I wouldn't have intentionally done myself had been brought up in that community. But after realizing the value in that I can own it for myself. Now, I'm I'm not I don't carry the same beliefs from a religious standpoint that I had when I was growing up. But one of the reasons I wanted to bring this up as I think some people think that if they're brought up and sort of brainwashed environment. Whether brought up an environment with beliefs that they no longer share a belief system that they don't necessarily agree with. It's not a good idea to throw the baby out with the bath. To just completely say, I'm going to completely go the exact opposite of what of how I was brought up and just throw everything out because there's probably a few things in your upbringing that has value that you can take ownership of and just make your own now. Does that make sense? Yeah. I would say despite my. Loathing of that expression for the baby out with the battle water. I liked everything else. He said, and that's very true again, it's about it's about getting really detailed with your experience. Right. And and sometimes left calls for broad strokes. But when you're really thinking about you know, how you've landed where you're landed. It's important to get to the details. And so yes, you don't want to just dismiss every part of your childhood because you had a bad part of it, you it's also, you know, it's your responsibility to really do the detail work and look at hey, but yes, x y and z was bad. But there was all they're worse were I don't agree with anymore. But there were some some great learnings that I can if if I don't apply them exactly as they were taught to be applied. I can find a creative way to still take those higher level higher level consciousness. Thoughts and apply them in my own way in my current life. And so there's a lot of great information there if you just take the time to. Wrote. And I think one of the simpler ways, I think my description might have been a little complicated. One of the more simpler ways to look at it as say, for instance, you wanna blame your parents or a parent for some negative things that happened in your life, some some trauma that she might have some things that you've had to worth resin adore. Maybe wanna blame your parents for the bad stuff? My view is you blame your parents for the bad stuff. But you also blame your parents for the good stuff. You have to blame them for the good things too. Because there's a if you look for it. There are some good things that happened as well. And so that's that's kind of where I was at with it. If there's a negative belief system more brainwashing or some type of mentality to brought up with it was outside of your control as you become an adult, and you begin to have the control over yourself. You can choose which aspects that are good that you wanna keep in your life. And I think that's an important step that we should talk about when we're talking about sort of weeding out a lot of negative stuff as well. So back to the speech a hero needs a villain to vanquish. And we're in luck there, plenty of them. That's thinks it's loud, and I laughed out loud. That's a good line. They get something to keep in mind as well. You know, I think we've got a perception that we should try to strive for a life that has no problems and. Striving for a life. That has no problems is probably not a bad cool to have. Unfortunately, we live in a real world where there are going to be problems. And they're always in there. And I actually don't think it's a good goal to have because it's completely not realistic. The goal is to work on yourself, and your problem solving ability because problems are coming at you. No matter who you are no matter where you are in life. It's about saying how can I craft my responses and my ability to be agile in my ability to 'em Fetig and understand where the other is coming from. And how can I do that as a response to problems as opposed to try and get rid of problems altogether? It doesn't it can't possibly exist. It's the yin and Yang its problems don't exist without solutions. Happiness does not exist without sadness, all of these things. It's about holding the opposites and finding the balance between them. So your time is far better spent. Crafting a plan that allows you to build the tools to solve problems and move from problem to problem with grace as opposed to try and Aratu Kate problems as an entire category. It reminds me of the douse the, and I know that's like a trite thing and people he really I I, but I think it's very important that holding the opposites the and if you notice the yen in the ING symbol there. The dark side represents chaos and the light side represents order. And if you notice the dark side has a little white dot in the middle of it. And the light side the Whiteside has a little black dot in the middle of it. Because these two things it's not solid chaos. And it's not solid order. You you don't wanna look seek complete chaos because then you've got no balance in your life, and you have no structure, no responsibility. Nothing, but you also don't want complete order. Because then you leave no room for fun and enjoying life, and and creativity in variants. I mean, if it was nothing, but order and everything was perfect. You would be bored to death, and and go and write the ultimate actually in the true life that people are trying to dance with the TAOs believe this that that squiggly curve in the middle. Like, that's where you wanna be. You wanna be right in between balanced chaos and order where you've got a little bit of both on each side. And I think that's kind of what we're talking about here where it's like, you you instead of all or nothing. It's both. Yeah. I mean having trouble seeing how we got here based on a hair until you always take weird. We always take weird pass just take back to that over as I said, I think I'm happy we actually stumbles off the path for second. But I do think it also speaks to personal responsibility. And this idea of there's a lot of inner work in these important moments. You know, he talked earlier about finding love, and that's that's that's the thing that really defines great character and stuff like that. And then it so they're all these inward things. But then it they don't aren't meaningful unless than you, take this outward and say, there's a larger responsibility to solve problems. There are villains aplenty, and it's like take all of these moments. These great teachable learnable moments that have defined as a person and then exp. X you know, kind of expand your wings and take these learnings to help, you know, in a personal responsibility to the environment around you. I think that's. Kind of very nice. Yes. I'm not surprised that we went off a weird tangent. Because we seem to always do that. Because you, and I when we decided to start the show we we didn't want it to be super structured, right you, and I have topics that we try to talk about. We have certain topics baby that we want to try to get to. But really, I think you, and I try to do our best to make sure that we are dancing that sort of line where the show can start getting off the rails and be a little chaotic. We for better for that. Because that's life. That's real you know, you, and I having actual conversations that lead us places instead of sort of mindless drones. It's funny owes give I'm not gonna mention their name. But I was giving somebody a hard time the other day not because they have a radio voice on their podcast. You know, the, hey, welcome to this show. And today, we're going to talk about this. And aren't you excited about two? I just it's so funny because people don't talk like that. And I understand I don't want want to give him too much trouble. That's kinda how news anchors and stuff. I don't wanna give him too much of a hard time because they're trained to do that. And trust me, they probably sound way more professional than me. Absolutely, absolutely. Not denying that. And I know they kind of go into a mode go into sort of show show business mode. But our styles a little different here. And I like that I like that you and I kind of like mis speak. Sometimes I liked that we have to edit out some of our own. And hands and that kind of thing because I really think that's an authentic conversation. And that I think is what I really wanna strive for with the show. I think you and I've done it. Okay. Job with obviously, we've got a lot more to do to get better and make the show better that kind of thing, but just kind of want to throw that out there, you are chaotic Erin. And we're we're, okay, we're, okay. Dealing with it. But. But I did want to end this show with wood is I think one of the most important points. So he made a quick reference to the scene and saving private Ryan. Now, I'm gonna say spoiler alert. If you haven't seen saving private Ryan, you should go ahead and skip to the end of the episode Aaron of using saving private Ryan. I have okay. Super impactful parts of the movie towards the end where Tom Hanks characters about to die. And he looks up at, you know, private Ryan who they came here in this whole Potala, basically came to save and he says earn this. And it's like, you know, Matt Damon's character private Ryan is basically like he just awestruck with that responsibility. And I think that is a really good metaphor for the life that you and I live right now. Aaron because we don't have a battalion of people coming to save our life in World War Two, but we're alive right now. Right, laura. Yeah. We're we're alive right now. In a lot of people, aren't we are mostly healthy were mostly able where mostly capable. We all have drawbacks. We all have shortcomings, but we're breathing air right now. And we're having a conversation that our brains can comprehend like that is an amazing gift that I really just feel. Like, it's important for us to not feel pressure and responsibility to quote, earn something, but definitely not take it for granted. And just to notice it and be the best. We can -solutely be in become the best. We can become which I think is really what the heart of the show is all about. So I think that's an important point that kinda wanted to wrap up because that's my big takeaway from this whole talk. Even though we covered a lot of ground. And we went a lot of different directions that to meet the thing. That's like hits me in the face. It's so clear and important, you know. I think there's just a lot. It's amazing. How long was the speech like twenty minutes or something fifteen the full speech yet? It ends up being. It's actually close to thirty. If you watch the whole thing, which we'll put a link to in the show notes, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. It just there's so much in there. It's unbelievable. It kind of reminded the same thing while we were talking about David what David Brooks save it Brooks. Oh my God. I thought about that speech. So many times as it was just so Chuck full of stuff and this had a very similar cadence. And and just very impactful. Too many speeches not enough time. We will get to the mall will do our best to get to the mall. And there's a lot of good ones out there. A lot of lessons for us to learn listeners. If there's something you wanna hear specifically other than Jeremy say FIFA don't wanna hear that anymore. Fleas tweet at us or Instagram the Emma on Facebook or Instagram. We love your suggestions. Yep. I think that's a good place wrap up. Thanks to Hereford university for putting the speech out there. Thanks to C Spielberg for forming it until next time under Fisher Aaron Falconer providing to keep moving keep thinking and keep growing.

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