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Episode 41B - Three Man Vs. Nature Stories

The Stephen King Boo! Club

26:24 min | 4 months ago

Episode 41B - Three Man Vs. Nature Stories

"Hello there club listeners. This is Stephen. Indra Sano coming at you with the bonus episode for this week. We were trying to figure out what to do. And what we settled on was a kind of showcase for some of the man versus nature themes across literature. I it's been a hot minute since I've gone to do any sort of reading this program so Phoenix one ahead and suggested some pieces that he wanted me to read so we've got three cool very different selections here and he could not join me for this call. Unfortunately but he did send along his opinion his take on these pieces for me to read on his behalf. Now the other thing that will be happening today Starting today in into the foreseeable future is I am recording live from my girlfriend's closet. I've hung some blankets up. She was nice enough to get some caller. Led's up in here. This is a slightly different recording setup. And I'm used to it. We might be dealing with a little bit more noise in the background. This is my own personal man versus nature environment tail to get so with. That said. We're going to start with travels with Charley by John Steinbeck. This is a direct callback to desperation or rather. Desperation has a direct call back to this very book. Johnny Merrin Ville the Hack writer has decided that he is going to travel across the country with his Harley kind of a loving tribute to this book. We're going to be starting with an excerpt from part one and I will try to let the text speak for itself and then I will speak for Phoenix and then I will speak for me. Labor Day approached the day of truth when millions of kids would be back in school and tens of millions of parents would be off the highways. I was prepared to set out as soon after that as possible and about that time. Hurricane Donna was reported trumping her way out of the Caribbean in our direction on. Long Island's tip. We have enough of that to be highly respectful with a hurricane approaching. We prepare to stand a siege or little bays fairly well protected. But not that. Well as Donna crouch toward us I filled the kerosene lamps activated the hand pump to the well and tied down everything moveable. I have a twenty two foot cabin boat the fair Elaine battened her and took her to the middle of the bay. Put down a huge old fashioned hook anchor and half inch chain and moored her. With a long swing with that rig. She could ride a hundred and fifty mile wind unless her bow pulled out. Donna Sneak Don. We brought out a battery radio for reports since the power would go off if donald struck but there was one added. Worry Rosanna Ninety sitting among the trees in a waking nightmare. I saw a tree crashed down on the truck and crush her. Like a bug eye pleased her away from a possible direct fall but that didn't mean that the whole top of the tree might not fly fifty feet through the air and smash her by early morning. We knew by radio that we were going to get it and by ten o'clock we heard that the I would pass over us and that it would reach us at one. Oh seven some exact time like that or bay was quiet without a ripple but the water was still dark and the fair lane road. Daintily slack. Guns her mooring. Our Bay is better protected than most. So that many small craft came cruising in for mooring and I saw with fear that many of their owners didn't know how to more finally to boats. Pretty things came in one towing the other alight anchor went down and they were left the bow of one tethered to the stern of the other and both within the swing of the Fair Lane. I took a megaphone to the end of my peer and tried to protest against this foolishness but the owners either did not hear or did not know were did not care. The wind struck on the moment. We were told it would and ripped the water like a black sheet. It hammered like a fist. The whole top of an oak tree crashed down. Grazing the cottage where we watched the next best stove. One of the big windows in I forced it back and drove wedges and top and bottom with a hand axe electric power and telephones went out with the first blast as we knew they must and eight foot. Tides were predicted. We watched the wind rip at earthen. See like a surging. Pack of terriers. The trees plunged in bent. Like grasses and the whipped water raised a cream of foam. A boat broke loose and Toboggan up on the shore and then another houses built in the benign spring and early summer took waves in their second story windows. Our cottages on the Little Hill thirty feet above sea level but the rising tide washed over my high peer. As the wind changed directions. I moved Roseanne Onta- to keep her always to leeward of our big oaks. The fair lane road gallantly swinging a weathervane away. From the changing wind the votes which had been tethered one to the other had fouled up by now the tow line under propeller and rudder the two holes bashing and scraping together another craft had dragged its anchor and gone to shore on a mud bank. Charlie dog has no nerves gunfire or thunder explosions or high winds. Leave him utterly unconcerned. In the midst of the howling storm he found a warm place under a table and went to sleep. The wind stopped suddenly as it had begun. And although the waves continued out of rhythm they were not wind tattered and the tide rose higher and higher all the peers around our little bay disappeared underwater and only their piles or handrail showed. The silence was like a rushing sound. The radio told us we were in the eye of Donna. The still and frightening calm in the middle of the revolving storm. I don't know how long the calm lasted it. Seemed longtime of waiting and then the other side struck us the wind from the opposite direction. The fair lane swung sweetly around and put her bow into the wind. But the two lashed boats dragged anchor swarmed down on fair lane and bracketed her. She was dragged finding and protesting down wind and forced against a neighboring peer and wicked here her whole crying against the oaken piles the wind registered over ninety five miles. Now I found myself in fighting the wind around the head of the bay toward the pier where the boats were breaking up. I think my wife for whom the fair lane is named ran after me shouting orders for me to stop. The floor of the pier was four feet underwater but pile stuck up and offered handholds. I worked my way out little by little up to my breast pockets. The shore driven win slapping water in my mouth. My boat cried and wind against the piles and plunged like a frightened calf. Then I jumped and fumbled my way aboard her for the first time in my life. I had a knife when I needed it. The bracketing we were boats. Were Pushing Elaine against the pier. I cut anchor line in tow line and kicked them free and they blew ashore on the mud. Bank but Elaine's anchor chain was still intact and that great old mud hook was still down. A hundred pounds of iron with spear shaped flukes. Wide is a shovel. Elaine's engine is not always obedient but this day it started at a touch. I hung on standing on the deck reaching inboard for wheel and throttle clutch with my left hand and that boat tried to help. I suppose she was that scared. I entered her out and worked up the anchor chain with my right hand under ordinary conditions. I can barely pull that anchor with both hands in a calm but everything went right. This time. I edged over the hook and tipped up and freed at spades then. Lifted it clear out of the bottom and nosed into the wind and gave it throttle and we headed into that. God Damn Wind gained on it. It was as though we pushed our way through thick porridge. A hundred yards offshore. I let the hook go and at plunged down grabbed bottom and the fairlane straightened and raised her bow and seem to sigh with relief. Well there I was a hundred yards offshore with Donna. Baying over me. Like a pack of white whiskered hounds. No skift could possibly whether it for a minute I saw a piece of branch goes skidding by and simply jumped in after it. There was no danger. If I could keep my head up I had to blow ashore but I admit the half Wallington rubber boots. I wore got pretty heavy. It couldn't have been more than three minutes before grounded and that other fair lane and a neighbor pulled me out. It was only then that I began to shake all over but looking out and seeing our little bowed riding well and safely was nice. I must have strained something pulling ankle with one hand because I needed a little help. Poem a Tumbler of Whiskey on the kitchen table with some help too. I've tried sense to raise that ankle with one hand and I can't do it. The wind died quickly. Leftist wreckage power lines down telephone for a week. Person on tape is not damaged at all. So here is what Phoenix had to say about this. It's such a masculine telling the story. He did a terrible thing terrifying his wife but to him it was a quick John to help out his boat. And he metaphorically didn't drop his cigar just kept cool he's sixty years old in this story and it's autobiographical what an asshole. But also how? Beautifully written couldn't agree more Phoenix. I think it's an interesting character. Reference point for the character of Johnny Marysville who sees himself? Is this kind of masculine. Do what I want character And it is also a really shining example of what the whole man versus nature. Strife can be it really allows for this kind of this happened and then this happened and then this happened plot Without any need for a will. What'S THE VILLAINS MOTIVATION? Nature doesn't need a motivation. It just needs to absolutely take you down. So the next thing that I'm going to be reading is a little kind of mid point. Breather. This is a poem called snowbound subtitle the Son that brief December day this by the poet John Greenleaf Whittier now. This description is something that I think that anyone who's lived in New England has a real respect for In the same ways that the desert convey this really all inspiring sense of fastness and uncaring. So too can winters in say Maine and Fremont so that in mind as I read this brief Jonty oil poem for you. The Sun that brief December Day rose cheerless over hills of gray and darkly circled gave at noon a satellite than waning moon. Slow tracing down the thickening sky. It's mute an ominous prophecy portend seeming less than threat at sank from sight before it set a chill note coat however stout of homespun stuff could quite shut out a hard dull bitterness of cold that checked mid vein the circling race of lifeblood in the sharpened face. The coming of the snowstorm told the wind blew east. We heard the roar of Ocean on his wintry shore and felt the strong pulse. Throbbing there beat with low rhythm are inland air. Meanwhile we did your nightly chores brought in the wood from out of doors lettered. The stall and from the mouse raked down the herds grass for the cows heard the horse winning for his corn and sharply clashing Horn on horn impatient. Down the stanchion rose the cattle shake their walnut bows while peering from his earthly perch upon the scaffolds poll of Birch the cock. His crested helmet bent and down his querulous. Chen wouldn't sent an warmed by any sunset. Light the Grade Day darkened into night a night made Hori with the swarm in world. Dance of the blinding storm. As Zigzag wavering to and fro crossed and recrossed the winged snow and air. The early bedtime came a white drift pile. The window frame and through the glass the clothesline posts looked in like tall and she did ghosts night. Drew on and from the Crest of would knows that Ridge to the west the sun a snow blown traveler sank from sight beneath fat smoldering bank. We piled with care our nightly stack of wood against the back the oaken log green huge and thick and on its top the stout back stick the naughty four stick lane. Apart and filled between with curious art the ragged brush then hovering near we watched the first read blaze appear heard the sharp crackle caught the gleam on whitewashed wall and sagging beam until the old rude furnished room burst flowerlike into rosie bloom while radiant and with a mimic flame outside the sparkling drift became an through the bear bowed lilac tree our own warm hearth seemed blazing free the crane and pendant trammell showed the Turks heads on the and irons glowed while childish fancy prompted tell the meaning of the miracle whispered the old rhyme under the tree when fire outdoors. Burns merrily there. The witches are making e the moon above the eastern would show net. It's full the hill. Range stood transfigured in the silver flood. It's blown snows flashing cold and keen dead white save where some sharp ravine took shadow or the Sambre Green of hemlock turned to black against the whiteness at their back for such a world and such a night most fitting that an warming light which only seem where it fell to make the coldness visible that was snowbound or the sun that December Day by John Greenleaf. Whittier here is what Phoenix had to say. A wonderful representation of how storms can have their effect sickle logically much more than physically in some cases. It's a different aspect of man versus nature. This gets back to what we talked about. Little Bit in the episode Wherein man versus nature is often a way of exploring man's perseverance. Now having lived a little bit in true even New England Vermont. There is some truth to this idea that things can get kind of out of proportion and out of color against the starkness of the white and gray Just a really wonderful poem and fun to to put into words. It's interesting with these kind of archaic poems. You know this being written in the eighteen hundreds that sometimes the way that we pronounce words changes so the ending couplet here clearly leaning towards a specific rhyme scheme for such a world in such a night most fitting that on warming light which only seemed wherever it fell to make the coldness visible. It doesn't quite roll off the tongue because it's just that old but I agree. It's a surprisingly good thing to compare it to desperation. Which is you know. Really partly a piece about what the characters think about their surroundings. There is not a psychedelic but definitely an artistic kind of exaggeration of aspects to the environment. Here that you can see in some of Stephen King's work as well. Now finally we're GONNA end with an absolute banger if I do say so This is a section from chapter one thirty five it looks like of Moby Dick. Now this is during a confrontation with the white whale which is really one of those literary figures that has come to absolutely stand for the archetypical man versus nature. And I think if you connect it to these other two selections that Phoenix has so aptly brought together for us. You'll find that. There is a real kind of man versus himself struggle in men versus nature and no other book gets it like Moby. Dick gets it I will be reading this in a kind of pirate the accent. I'm sorry if that turns you off but it's just impossible to read with out sounding like a pirate so here goes nothing the craft was cast to one side and ran ranging along with white wells. Flank seems strangely oblivious to dance as the whales sometimes will they had was fairly within the smokey mountain mist which thrown off from the whale spout curled round his great Mandak Hump. He was even those close to him. When with body arched back both arms length wise high lifted to the poise. He darted his fierce iron and his father fiercer curse and to hated wail as both steel and curse sank into the socket. As if sucked into a morass moby Dick sidewise writhed spasmodically rolled his knife flank against the bow and without staving a hole in it so suddenly cantered the boat over that had not been for the elevated part of the gun whale to which he doesn't clung a how would once more have been tossed into the sea. How's it was three of the artist? Men for new not the precise instant of the DART and were therefore unprepared for its effects. These were flung out so fell that in an instant to. I'm clutch the gun. Well again and raising to its level. And a Coleman wave hurled themselves bodily inboard again the third man hopelessly dragging a stern but still afloat and swimming almost simultaneously with a mighty volition of an-and graduated instantaneous witness. The white whale darted through the wall touring Z. But when they have cried out to the steersman to take new turns with the line and hold it so and commanded the crew to turn round on their seats in tow the bow up to the mark the moment the treacherous line felt that double strain and tug it snapped in the empty air. What breaks in me. Some SINEW CRACKS. Tis whole again. Our's our's burst in upon him hearing the tremendous rush of the C. Crushing boat the way wheeled around present his blank. Far Head at bay but in that evolution catching sight to the nearing black of the ship. Seemingly seeing it the source of all his persecutions but thinking it it may be a larger and nobler foe of sudden. He bore down upon advancing brow smeeting his jaws amid fiery showers of foam. A cab staggered his hands his forehead. I grow blind hand. Stretch out before me that I may grope my way it's night the whale. The ship cried the cringing oarsmen ours ours. Slope downwards I depth oversee that Harry would be forever too late a had may slide this last last time upon his mark. I see the ship. The ship Dashon. My men will not save my ship but has the oarsmen violently forced their boat through the sledge. Hammering sees the before whale smitten bow wins. The two planks burst through an almost instant temporarily disabled the boat nearly level with the waves. It's half waiting splashing crew trying hard to stop the gap bailout pouring water. Some reasons why we excerpted this section first of all. This is a very difficult book to excerpt from because it's got that kind of storytelling long winded this and annisten on that Now the reason why we went with this particular selection is because you get a little bit of the uncaring nature of Moby Dick Moby Dick here standing in for the versus nature See here The wheel wailed round present black forehead at bay but in that evolution catching sight of the nearing blackhall of the ship. Seemingly seeing in it the source of persecutions he cares about seemingly moby. Dick Cares about the boat much more than he cares about eighty have being so obsessed with Moby Dick and you see in that kind of miscommunication. Almost that there's real heartbreaking irony to it this is what Phoenix had to say. This is perhaps the most famous example of man versus nature in literature and also shows how man versus nature can reflect. Man Versus. Obsession with the whale is part of his own mental decline. That's a really reduced view of easily the most analyzed piece of American literature so enjoy. Enjoy indeed now. This was sourced from a website called. American LITERATURE DOT Com. It looks like you can get the entire book Moby Dick or though AOL on that website. If you're into some kind of high minded ocean shenanigans if you like the lighthouse go read Moby Dick Please. That is what we've got for you today. Three little vignettes of what man versus nature can be. Join US next week where we will be doing. One of our main episodes Phoenix will be back with me and we will be talking about the twin book to desperation which is of course Richard Bachman 's the regulators. So get reading on that we are going to be reading through Chapter Seven. Roughly the first half of the book. keep an eye out for many of the same characters and see if any of the themes interlaced with this. I will say having read the majority of the first half the book. Man versus nature features much less prevalent which is interesting given that they're supposed to be kind of Two sides of a similar coin as it were anyway. We can't wait till you join us. Then find us on social media on facebook on twitter if you enjoy the program. Tell One person you Ikea about it. That's our whole spiel. We'd like to thank Monica. Jen for doing our posters Michaela Fishman. Doing graphic design. We'd like to thank the Stephen and Tabitha King Foundation for all of the charitable work. They do in the state of Maine. We'd like to thank Tony Magistrelli. Michael Blue and for being some of our academic advisors would of course like to thank our mysterious archivist Bryant and we would like to thank you the listener. We will see you next week. Thank you for tuning in and Yeah.

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53. Donald Pee Wee Gaskins: The Meanest Man in America

Reverie True Crime

34:22 min | 2 weeks ago

53. Donald Pee Wee Gaskins: The Meanest Man in America

"Hey listeners are you a fan of true crime? If you're listening to this podcast, then you most certainly are. During these strange times are you looking for a new true crime podcast? The new who found your new true crime obsession. My podcast riddle me that true crime covers both older cases as well as current ones I cover both well known and more obscure cases such a strange death of Blair Adams, the cyanide coffee murder of municipality. And the disappearance of SRI. Lanka's richest man who polly was your ardine. That true crime is available on Apple Google play spotify Stitcher, and wherever you listen to your podcast. Thank you now back to the show. Welcome to, reverie? True. Crime I'm your host page and today I'll be discussing one of the many twisted serial killers. Donald Gaskins also known as pee wee? Gaskins. Let's get right into it. Donald Henry Gaskins was born on the thirteenth of March and Nineteen ninety-three. You was born and raised in Florence Candy South Carolina. who was the youngest of the children born out of wedlock? He was always short for his age and everyone called him peewee. Even, when he was an adult, he was just five four and weighed about one hundred and thirty pounds. During his childhood. neglected. When he was only one year old Donald. Gulp down a bottle of kerosene. Until. He was three years old. He would have convulsions related to the incident. He didn't even know that his name was actually Donald. Until he read it aloud when he had to go to court for the first time, which we will get into very shortly because his crimes started at a very young age. His mother lived with various man through his childhood and they would beat him while his mother turned the other way. Donald's mom got married and his stepfather always abused him and his four half siblings. His own mother would also sell him to other men who would write in. The abuse in his life not only happened at home, but it spilled over into his school life. He would always get into altercations with nudges boys, but girls is well. You would get punished by his teachers alive. By the time he was eleven, he gave up on school. At only eleven years old. He began mechanic work at a garage town and he would go home and help out on the farm. while. He was working at the garage. He meant to other boys his age that had also dropped out of school named Danny and Marsh. They started to break into homes and even picked up sex workers together in the neighboring cities. They started to dub themselves that trouble trio. Donald Danny and marsh would reich little boys. But the little boys never told on the three because they were threatened to keep their mouths shut. They were eventually called gang raping marshes, little sister, and as punishment for that, the parents tied the boys up and gave them a thrashing until they were bleeding. Shortly, after this happened Daniel Marsh vacated the town. Donald went off on his own to keep burglarizing people's houses. And Nineteen Forty six donald was now thirteen years old and a little girl caught him breaking into her house. She went after Donald with an axe, but he wrestled away from her. Donald struck her in the head and the arm with it. He ran away after she passed out the girl made it through this assault and Donald was taken into custody. He was tried for his beating the young girl and he was found guilty of assault with a deadly weapon with the intent to kill. During this was when he actually found out that his name was donald and not be we. Donald was to be set away to the South Carolina Industrial School for boys until he turned eighteen. At this school for boys who was gang raped by twenty. When he decided to give sexual favors to avoid they called false boy and in return this boss boy would protect him from the others. Donald trump to run away from the school but his attempts always fail he ended up being sexually and physically abused among those in boss Boys Gang. Donald was desperate to get out of there. He continued his attempts to escape which only led to fight with security. He was eventually directed to a State Mental Hospital for observation. The doctors there found him sane and sent him back to the school. After a few days he started to try to get away again and it worked. He even started to be a part of a traveling carnival and not long after his escape. While he was with traveling carnival, he met and wed a thirteen year old girl. He did decide to turn himself over to the COPS so he could complete his sentence school. On the thirteenth of March nineteen, fifty one which was his eighteenth birthday as time there was done. For a short time, he did work on a tobacco plantation until nineteen, fifty three. During his time there, he and a friend started to get together with other tobacco farmers and they agreed to help them commit insurance fraud. They burned down there barnes for money. Word got of course about all of these barns that were just going down in flames all of a sudden and people started to suspect Donald had something to do with it. And Nineteen fifty-three at teenage female. The daughter of his employer was brutally attacked by Donald with a hammer just because she asked him if he had anything to do with the Barnes burning down. This landed him and the South Carolina opinion, and he was sentenced to five years there for another salt with a deadly weapon and attempted murder. He was again rate in the prison repeatedly and was quote unquote owned by one of the prison gang leaders. Donald Thaw of the only way he could have a chance at surviving these next few years in the PAN would be to murder a man in the prison that everyone was scared of. He was the quote. Unquote. Power Man Hazel Brazil. which in return made the others respect him. How he went about this was he made Hazel things that they were good buddies and gained his trust. One day Donald Slit his throat. He was convicted of manslaughter and spent six months in solitary confinement. When he was out in the general population again, he was considered the big dog now the quote unquote power man of the prison and it made his I'm there go a lot smoother and nineteen, fifty, five, his wife divorced him, and this caused him to freak out. He escaped gave the penitentiary, stole a vehicle and high tailed it to Florida where he joined another carnival. He also got married to another girl which didn't last longer than two weeks. Then he met a woman named Betty Gates. Betty was a part of the carnival they were romantically involved and went together to Cookeville Tennessee to bail out her brother from jail. As Donald goes inside with the bail money and a carton of cigarettes, he doesn't meet the brother. Hey drops these things off and then walks over to the hotel that he am betty were staying at and then he realized that she had run away in his car the police had to break it to donald that who he was trying to bail out was actually not betty's brother it was her husband and inside that carton of cigarettes was a razor blade which the guy had used to escape the jail. So, Betty and her husband were long gone and Donald's car. The cops would soon find out that Donald wasn't quite an angel himself and also an escapee. They sent him back to prison when they found out. He had nine months added onto his sentence for the escape and for stabbing another inmate. He was also convicted later on for stealing a car and driving it across state lines which landed him and federal prison for three years and Atlanta Georgia. While he was in this federal prison, he became close to Frank Castillo a mafia boss who nicknamed on the little hatchet man, and he also told on all that he was welcomed to work for him in the future if he wanted. An August of nineteen, sixty, one donald. Gaskins was released and he went back to his hometown of Florence South Carolina. He worked in tobacco sheds, but he couldn't keep himself out of trouble for too long. He began to break into homes again while at the same time, he was employed as a driver and assistant to a traveling minister. Since, the minister traveled around Donald took that as a way to break into different homes and different towns. He got married again in nineteen, sixty two but that didn't stop him from his horrendous. He raped a twelve year old little girl. He was taken into custody but he escaped through a courthouse window before his trial. Gone Away and another stolen car and fled in North Carolina. While there, he met a seventeen year old and tied the knot yet again. She found out about his dirty deeds and she handed him right over to the cops. Donald was convicted of statutory rate and was sentenced to six years in prison. November of nineteen, sixty eight, he was paroled on one condition that he not ever come back to Florence. By this time Donald was boiling with rage a blind animosity of society in general females in particular Recchi. Later said plagued him with physical aches and pains like hot red and his stomach and growing. Donald said he had quote them voted and bothersome failings in quote that would eat away at him and push him over the edge and his criminal acts. In September of Nineteen sixty-nine, he picked up a female hitchhiker in north, Carolina. When he asked her for sex she laughed at him and that may donald extremely array. He started brutally assault her until she was passed out. He raped sodomized and disemboweled her when he was done, he drowned her in a swamp. He later said what he did was a vision and to his bothersome failings that were continuously lingering inside of him. When he found a way to keep these feelings satisfied, it would become what motivated him and his life. And his memoir he said quote all I can think about is how I could do anything I wanted to her. In quote the leaving the scene Donald recalled his feelings saying quote. I felt truly the best. I've ever remembered feeling in my whole life and quote. He tried to get his technique of torturing just right. Donald. Would mutilate people and keep them hanging onto their lives for days on end. Tom Only, make his mind darker more terrifying place. He would begin to eat pieces of his victims that he would cut off of their bodies and not only that he would make him watch or even at times take part in the consumption. His preference were females. He really hated women. But he would still go on to commit heinous crimes against males as well. On down the line, he says by Nineteen, seventy, five, he ed murdered. Her younger males and females that he found on the highways of north. Carolina. He would relish in these bothersome failings now more than fight the. It started to feel good. and his mind, the coastal killings were just something to do on the weekend and not significant murders. Killing people that he knew is what he considered serious murders. One of what he would call his more serious murders was the one of his knees Janez. Kirby. Age Fifteen and her friend Patricia and also broke. In the year of nineteen seventy he told the girls that he would give them a lift the bar. Instead he drove them to an abandoned house. Donald ordered the girls to take off their clothes. They really fought shes survived. They picked up a board and whacked him really good until he pulled his gun out on them. You would write them beat them until they passed out and drowned the votes, them bearing them and different locations. He said he always played with the thought of raping his niece, but he never had the chance until that night. The police asked him about their whereabouts. He said the last he saw the girls they were alive. He lied and said that they got into a car with several guys that he didn't recognize. there. Wasn't any evidence and their cases went cold for years. Donald took the smallest bray during his murderous rampage to get married to his girlfriend who was with child on the first of January of Nineteen seventy-one. That was merely a slight interference. He committed another murder that he would categorize is serious even though we know they were all serious. It was the killing of a twenty year old name Martha. Dick's. Data was charmed by Donald. She would even go to his job at the car repair shop and spend time with him. She was also his first black victim. Martha would joke to friends that she and Donald were friends they were lovers. Donald put up with the Tall Tales until Martha started saying, she was pregnant with his baby. Donald told her to come over one evening after work. He fixed up some food for Martha with a lethal overdose of pills and alcohol. Then he dumped her dead body and a roadside ditch. People labeled him a racist but donald maintained quote I didn't kill her for no reason besides her lying mouse end quote. And late nineteen. seventy-one Donald moved to Charleston with his wife and child proceeding to commit his next to serious murders. and. Nineteen seventy two. The victims were twenty, four year old Eddie, Brown who was a gun runner and Eddie's wife Birdie Donald said she was quote the best looking black girl I saw in quote. Donald, sold firearms to Eddie as well as stolen military weapons, but he began to get a little jumpy when Eddie him know that the feds were keeping a close eye on Charleston. They were on the lookout for illegal weapons dealers. Donald got paranoid and thought they could possibly be setting him up. He wasn't going to take any chances. So he shot Eddie and Birdie Brown, then he put them behind the barn where he had concealed Janice Herbie and nineteen seventy. Donald moved to prospect South Carolina and July of Nineteen seventy-three. This was after his Charleston residents went down in a blaze of fire. He accused arsonist for the fire, but never could pinpoint or give them any details about the perpetrators. Before nineteen seventy-three was over he more than three victims. Fourteen year old runaway Jackie Freeman was first. Donald offered her lived while she was hitchhiking in October and held her hostage for two days. Raping torturing and aiding her body. Parts. Quote. I always thought of Jackie special not really a serious murder, but likewise, not just another coastal kill. In quote which he said in his memoirs. Donald Ball this old hers and nineteen seventy-three. He told people at the bar that he frequented that he needed it to carry out all the people that he murdered to confidential graveyard. He made him prospect south, Carolina. He had even put us sign in the window that said we haul anything living or dead. He was living in prospect south, Carolina. With his wife and baby and people always thought he had a bizarre and sometimes explosive behavior possibly even mentally ill but they never consider donald the type that would do anything treacherous. SOM-. Even thought, of Donald, as a true friend. Unfortunately. One of those people who thought she had a friendship with him was twenty three year old Doreen Dempsey? She was not married. She took care of her two year old daughter and she was eight months pregnant with her second child. She wanted to leave town and Donald offered her a ride to the bus station. However. She never made it there. He drove to a wooded area raped and murdered her. Afterwards he right and sodomized the baby. After, the baby had passed away, he buried them together. Donald was later defined writing it and vent as the best sexual experience of his life. Through it all Donald took comfort in the fact that he was quote one of the few that truly understands what death painter all of out I have a special kind of Marin that allows me to give myself permission to kill. In, quote. Donald serious murders would carry on and nineteen, seventy four. Thirty, six year, old car thieves, Johnny Sellers, owed Donald One thousand dollars for auto parts, but he was taking his wait time to pay him. Donald got sick and tired of the excuses. He told Johnny sellers to meet him in the woods and then Donald shot him where the rifle. That same night hoping to hinder the missing persons, investigations of Johnny Donald got in touch with Johnny's girlfriend twenty, two year old Jesse Ruth, Judi and spirit her to death moving her corpse to the woods to bury her alongside her lover. Another car thieves and con man named Horace. Jones. made a deadly wander attempting to Romance Donald Current Wife and Nineteen, seventy four. Donald said in his memoir final truth quote that pissed me off in quote. And it wasn't that he tried to romance her exactly. But he said quote I mean if he comes straight me like a man and asked to make a deal with me for my wife I would probably have given to him for night or we or to keep if the offer was good enough. and quote. After Shooting Horace, Jones in the woods, he stole two hundred dollars from horaces dead body before leaving. By December nineteen seventy four donald was now grandfather settled into a routine that suited him and satisfied his needs. that. Christmas season he recalled was quote the happiest and peaceful as I can remember and quote. And? Nineteen seventy-five Donald was forty two years old and even though he was grandfather, he refers to nineteen seventy five as quote my busiest and killing his year in quote. He got away with it mostly because he had never involved anyone else in the highway slash coastal killings. But in nineteen, seventy, five of van was unfortunately broken down the highway. Two women and one man who he said were hippy types from Oregon. He offered these people Araj who garage that was close by. But instead, he drove them to a swamp and handcuff them as he held his gun on them. He proceeded to drown them. He said about these drownings quote it was hard to say which one suffered most. I tried to make it equal in quote. He realized he needed assistance from someone to move these bodies. He went to ex-convict Walter neely. Walter got the van up and running. He drove it to Donald Garage, or Donald gave it a whole new paint job so he could eventually sell it. Also. In nineteen seventy, five donald was given fifteen hundred dollars to take the life of a rich farmer named solace yates who resided in Florence County. The person who gave him the money was a better an infuriated girlfriend of Sallis's named Suzanne Kipper. Two men John. Powell. And John Owens where the go betweens Zan and Donald to assemble the killing. The ex-convict Walter. Neely, his wife Diane got in on the act pretending to have car trouble to trick solace into leaving his house on February twelve. Donald then kidnapped and killed solace as John, Powell and John Owens stood back and watched. After. It was over John Powell John Owens and Donald buried solace. Not long after this incident Walters wife Diane. She had a boyfriend to. He was also an ex convict named. Avery Howard. Dan, avery tried to blackmail donald for five thousand dollars or else they would tell everything that happened. Well. Donald got rid of those two really fast. They. Met Up expecting to get their money and stead they pulled up to a grave with donald dare gun in hand. He shot them dug the grave, a little deeper gout, the man and through the dirt back on top of them. Down old was also really busy on his murdering spree continuing to torture people that he knew. Thirteen year old Ken Calkins turned down his offer of sex. He was not happy about it. So he went on to rape torture and strangle her then he put her body in a shallow grave in the woods. To local guys named Johnny night who was fifteen and Dennis Bellamy who was twenty eight didn't know how savage Donald was. They thought they'd get away with Robbing Donald Repair Shop, and of course, they didn't. Donald slaughtered them and buried them. Yet, again, he had to ask for Walter neely's. To. Bury these shoe. Donald considered Walter a close and loyal friend. He even took walters his private cemetery. As Donald was killing people left and right he had no idea that there was an investigation going on into the missing thirteen year old can Gilligan's Everything they had pointed directly to Donald. The authorities had a search warrant and went through Donald's apartment. FOUND CANS clothes, and when Donald got back from Georgia on the fourteenth of November nineteen, seventy, five, he saw the cops were surrounding his house. Sing says he went to a bus station intending to get back to Georgia but the police caught him before he was able to get out of the state. He was indicted for having a part in the delinquency of child. He sat in jail waiting for his trial to begin. Since Donald was locked up and unable to get into Walter, neely's heads and manipulate or have any control of him, the cops decided to crack down on Walter and break him and they absolutely accomplish that goal during questioning. Walter cracked and took them to Donald's secluded graveyard on the land that Donald on. The authorities found eight of the victim's bodies. As he recalled that chaotic month, he said quote the coroner had the bodies Jesus had Walter and the law had me an quote. The twenty seventh of April, Nineteen seventy-six, Donald, Gaskins, and Walter neely or charged with eight counts of murder. Donald trying to act like he didn't do anything and that he himself was a victim. That didn't pan out for him and on the twenty fourth of May. The jury concluded that he was guilty of murdering Dennis Bellamy one of the two who robbed his shop. He was sentenced to death. He decided that he would go on and tell the truth about the seven other homicides. He was to serve seven life sentences consecutively after the US Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty in South Carolina wasn't constitutional in November of Nineteen, seventy six. And prison he relished and the over the top way that other inmates treated him because he had his reputation of a merciless killer. Well in Nineteen, seventy eight, the death penalty was in fact reestablished in South Carolina. Donald didn't care until he was found guilty of killing another inmate named Rudolph tonner. Rudolph was on death row for killing an older couple named bill and Myrtle Moon. This son of Mardell gave Donaldson money to take out Rudolf. He tried a few times by lacing his food and drinks poison however, that strategy didn't work. So. Donald finally took Rudolph sly by assembling a radio with explosives which blew up on Rudolph and killed him. The radio was in Rudolph Cell and Donald told him he could fix it up where it would allow them to communicate between sales. Donald instructed Rudolf to hold the speaker to his ear at time that they both decided on. Donald detonated the explosives from his sale and that is how Rudolph tyner died. Donald later stated quote the last thing tonner heard was me laughing and quote? This is when he was now called the meanest man in America. He received a death sentence yet again. He tried to avoid the electric chair by continually admitting to all of the homicides he committed. Nobody has determined if everything he confessed to were facts. But if by chance he was telling the truth, it would make him the most depraved murderer of all time and South Carolina. He said he murdered thirteen year old Peggy Cotino who was the daughter of a well-known. And South Carolina with Father Being the South Carolina? State. Senator James Cotino Junior. However a man named William, peers had already been convicted of killing and he was spending life in prison for it. Since they couldn't verify anything he was saying was true and likely he wasn't telling the truth about a lot of it. They didn't accept his confessions. The authorities said he was just saying this for the media. Donald started collaborating with the author Wilton Earl and his final months to write his book called Final Truth and went she was tape-recorded chronicling his wife. The book was published in Nineteen Ninety-three. Donald recounts his killings and his bothersome failings that were telling him inside. The day he was to be executed was not that far away. He started to turn into a one of these philosopher telling why he killed and about his rendezvous with death. As a lot of murderers usually do donald didn't WanNa go to the electric chair after taking lives. So brutally, he struggled hard to evade being killed himself. The day he was supposed to be executed. He slit his wrists. This was an attempt to delay his demise. However, they stitched him up and he was putting the chair right on schedule. Donald Gaskins was pronounced deceased at the Broad River Correctional Institution by electrocution at one five in the morning on the sixth of September nineteen ninety one. His last words before he died or quote I'll let my lawyers taught for me. I'm ready to go and quote. He was fifty eight years old. We may never know how truthful his Book Final Truth Really, is. Maybe just wanted to be known as one of the most prolific serial killers and not just a little bland in the world. A lot of killers want to be known for what they did and how brutally they did it. It seems he strived to have that reputation of a bad ass most of his life ever since he stopped being the victims of bullies as peewee and turned into the bully Donald The attacker. He. said that he murdered over one hundred people there was never any proof of that and he could never inform anyone where he put the bodies. And that is the story of Donald Gaskins. Thank you so much for listening. Also, if you've had scary or creepy encounter with someone or a paranormal experience holies email them to me at reverie true crime at g, mail DOT COM. I WANNA do episodes and October called Spook Tober stories and I would love Jurado your listeners stories on the show. Just, let me know if you would like to remain anonymous and you can also change the names in your stories. Until next time as always stay safe and stay healthy.

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#459 - Black Atheist Trump Voter Returns vs. David Smalley

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#459 - Black Atheist Trump Voter Returns vs. David Smalley

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Everybody knows who Ken Shamrock is. If you've ever followed any fights and He was supposed to be on the show last night. We had to reschedule. He's coming on next week. And he I was debating on whether or not to play that cheesy ass applause. I was like when when I introduced Ken Shamrock. Should I still do the applause? Like I'm embarrassed by it. I don't know but you love it. So yeah the only reason I do the show Dave sometimes I think I think about just introducing him without applause and then adding later. Because I know he's not GonNa go back and listen to the show. He just did so. I don't know I'm struggling with that. So when you hear the apply just would understand how uncomfortable I am that. Have you been pretty good spin another crazy week? Living under quarantine but I don't know every day I feel like I'm getting a deeper understanding of what it is that we're going through as a society as a culture as a planet trying to get my head around where we're going and we're GONNA end up on the other side since the struggle every day. It seems like a moving picture where you're trying to jump on a moving train like but at no this week has been a weird one. I'm GonNa feel like everyone of our conversations is a podcast and I think we should. We should probably just exclusively talk on skype and record everything that happens because every time we get on a private phone call we end up either hashing out some major issue going on or usually me learn something that we didn't understand what's happening in the world and We both have I think good insight to and sometimes we even slightly disagree until we get to the bottom of something. It's it's invigorating and I think we should probably just record more. Conversations may be for patrons or something And every time I talk to you I'm like oh. We shouldn't be doing this right now. We should be we. We should be on microphones this this could help people So it happened even earlier today. We start accidentally getting into the stuff. We wanted to talk about today so before it just naturally happens. Let me bring on our guest. So that he can be a part of the conversation and we can start Start our conversion process here because we have a guy to convert today. Join me in welcoming back to the show Javier. Havi air somebody who was twice. Have you been man holding up door my best? So we have a lot to get into some political stuff. I do want to get into your backstory as well And that's originally reached back out and you were like. Hey let's talk about you. Know the my other major issue in the stuff that I've been through my past and I was like yeah. Let's do that but it's hard in this in this day and time when all this political stuff is going on to not address that that to me is just the giant elephant in the room anytime talking to somebody who leans conservative. Especially someone like you who leans conservative for reasons. None of US UNDERSTAND. Havi air what what blows me away mostly about you. Man is the last time you first of all your atheist. So there's not even a a religious debate to be had here or and and then when Michael and I had you on the show last time we took you through the iside with quiz and you were just as liberal as US. Mostly now some of his stat. I don't trust that test will will I feel like strap in everybody because I after I did. My you know thirty two minute monologue on on how. I'm voting and if you haven't heard that go back and listen to that and the rest of the show make much more sense then. Michael came on and we did a deeper dive of the whole Joe Biden Donald Trump Ernie sanders thing. And you. Now you've listened to both of those. Yes fast okay so I I am completely convinced that this moment you listen to that show. You listened to my monologue. You listened to Mike when I break it down. You must absolutely be ready to vote. Blue in November Actually I took notes because I felt like it was something that needed to be touched on your last conversation. Luther Oh yes we could bring out a notes that we go through this and Hash it out like we always do some taking that as you're still at this moment considering yourself a supporter of Donald Trump and you plan on voting for Donald Trump in this election. Well I don't consider myself a trump supporter actresses myself a person who's going to vote for trump. So you're on the orange team definitely. I'm on the Ra's the Ray. Whenever between the whole I lean having read a lot of Heavier posts recently watched his videos. I will say that. He's ideologically very conservative that he does defend those positions from a conservative point of view. And I understand where he's coming from. Just I think what blows our mind how. Vr Is that as somebody who is ideologically conservative and smart and an atheist and coming at it from a skeptical point of view that you don't see the obvious huge problems with continuing with the trump administration. Well would you say that it said that all people who are not smart and intelligent will support? Trump is just is not necessarily true. So there's this bill in discussion as far as left versus right going on in the country right now and drama conservative perspective. It seems the way that argument is being framed from the left is defend trump Trunk is never framed in a in a way of hey. We're on the less what we're offering you in return so that you won't go for trump is always about Orangemen Therefore for us is never. Hey y'all got some issues going on over there. So how about we offer you something to get you on our side all right so hold on so I I I totally disagree and I feel like there's a lot of that going on but when you say there's nothing else I just have to point you back to the monologue which I have my notes from the monologue that I gave. I did talk a lot about the problems. Donald trump but remember when I went into the end by the way. There's a thing going around facebook the you probably haven't seen if you're not in the sort of liberal algorithms. How facebook works it kind of keeps you apprised of you already like there's There's a whole thing going on about it and I've taken some from that but I I create some stuff on my own as well. I talked about the that. You're voting for our country to start healing. That's something that liberals are offering healy. We're talking about having a more grownup reputation in the world. We're talking about leaning entrusting our government scientists in the CDC not fighting against the scientists. That's what liberals are offering. We're offering more sane person in control of the president's twitter account right. We're voting were voting for federal judges to be appointed that have credentials instead of being buddies with trumped. You know on a golf course somewhere. We're talking about Supreme Court justices so there are so many things that I listed at the near the end of that monologue that was precisely what liberals are offering. That's better than Donald Trump is. I think you're offering liberal solutions. Because I don't think anybody WANNA conservatives. I want the same things as far as what the candidate. Joe Biden is offering. And I don't think you want what Joe Biden is offering either. You're just basically stuck in a rock and a hard place and you're forced to vote blue. You didn't want this. You did not want Joe Biden President. No that's true. That's true but I'll tell you but I'm not I'm not stuck between a rock and a hard place I'm stuck between I don't like the way and people can go. Listen to the episode that I did but I don't like the way Bernie. Sanders was treated. I think Bernie. Sanders is a more compassionate human being and at the end of the day I feel like Bernie is the guy that would make the best decision when no one's looking you line them up against Biden against trump against Ted Cruz against anybody. He's GonNa make the best decision when nobody's looking. I think he has a best conscience and the most compassion for humanity. I think Donald Trump is on the other end of that spectrum. Though heavier the he is the worst human being ever had. And if that dog's GonNa Keep Barking. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA BE Anti Animal. Whose is that on your side at McDonald's not barking? It's Michael I Paul II muted at. Just then I'll go into another room mostly if I I'm gonNA close that window again. Oh it's outside. She's Yeah I would say that Dow owned bark hold on hold on hold on hold on Michael. You create and work for me. I gotTa make notes now and do edits shit. Sorry but I close the window. It seems to taking care of the problem. This is not going to super Adultress all right. Let me get back on what I was saying. So what? I'm what I'm getting at here is. I do want you to be president. He wasn't my first choice. Okay but it's I. I mean not even my second he he probably would have been number four or five for me to be honest with you but he is leaning more toward opening healthcare to more people. Donald trump is doing the opposite. He's proactively trying to kick seven hundred thousand people off of social programs. I think that's bad for the country. I think that's bad because we are better when more people are healthy overall. I'm I'm in a better position when my neighbors are healthier And I'm in favor of those social programs that Joe Biden supports. I am in favour of our next Supreme Court justices. Who is going to be chosen by the next president to be more inclined to allow women to make decisions about their bodies. I'm in favor of dreamers. Being able to stay here and gained citizenship and gain all of the proper credentials and documents that they need as a citizen. No I am not in favor of taking someone who has literally never been to Mexico in their lives and throwing them across the border and saying go home. This is their home. Biden understands that this is their home. Donald Trump wants to send them over the border because they weren't legally registered. I disagree with trump on several things. Joe Biden is offering something that I want president and mostly. That's getting rid of trump's terrible policies and I think most conservatives what I'M NOT GONNA say Conservatives but I will say most people who vote for trump fill like trump is delivered on the promises that he made. Now we get into the into. The week is about whether or not he delivered. But let's not forget that this is an ideological in no is that we we have right here now a lot of stuff that you just listed. I only see coming from a liberal perspective. I don't see a conservative saying well. I want a woman to be able to have an abortion. I don't think that's a conservative desire or value because most conservatives consider that to be murder if I must say so myself and I don't see how that's offering anything to conservatives. Here's the different about the Second Amendment Woolen. The different through the difference I don't think anybody liberal conservative. Whatever likes the idea of abortion the okay. You can believe it's murder you can think it's terrible you can say it's a bad idea you can. You can open services and offer counseling services to women. Who are considering abortion. He could try to talk them out of it. You have the freedom of speech to do all of those things but when we had you on the show last time you said I disagree with it and then Michael pushed back and said okay. You're it's fine disagree with it. We all have our limits to what we would be comfortable with. But are you okay with mandating a federal law? That makes it murder because they're because then a woman's womb becomes a crime scene if she has a miscarriage too. It's a homicide investigation if she has a miscarriage and you said of course not. I do not want to make it a law. That is what separates us here You are on our side when it comes to that. Donald Trump has stated that he thinks women should go to prison for having an abortion. If you'RE DONALD TRUMP DONALD TRUMP will not get that done. Let's be realistic. Just like Bernie Sanders. What the won the nomination and became president. We all know that there are certain things that he would have not been able to get done. What would that be said? The reason that I'm not for the government banning abortion. It may be for some of the reasons why you're not for because I just think it's bad policy. I think it will end horribly and also I don't want to government in our lives Razz. I think you might want to government in our lives just not in that area you may want the government to run healthcare or you may want the government to put more tighter restrictions on gun laws so our reasons for not wanting to government to ban abortions are two separate reasons like. I don't believe that abortion is controlling the woman's body. I think it's protecting the body. That's within her body that's Kind of a religious argument there though I mean I mean heavier abortion and gun rights Aside I mean gun rights. I always have to kind of laugh when conservatives talk about gun rights because the Democrats are pathetic if it comes to gun control I mean they they. They don't want anything they they get on. Tv holding their assault rifles in their guns. And they'd talk about the second. I think you mean Republican using. They don't have money balls. Michael You said Democrats. I think he meant Republicans. No Democrats are are not great with gun laws and the no. No one is proposing taking away anyone's guns when the Republicans and Conservative based talk about the Second Amendment. They are talking about a phantom threat that doesn't exist when they say they're coming for our guns. They WanNa take our guns away they wanna take my rights away. I I don't know what they're talking about. What laws are they even talking about? I mean well I'm I'm old enough to remember. Beta auroras explicitly standing onstage saying Hail Year. We're going to take your ar. Fifteen hell yeah. We're GONNA take your assault weapons. I literally a day off. And he didn't get the nomination he got he we. We took care of him pretty quickly. Let me just tell you this. Joe Biden goes further than I'm comfortable with on the gun situation because he wants to make it possible to sue the gun manufacturers if there is a merger with that weapon Bernie was against that. And I'm with Bernie on that. I think that is. I think that is absurd. So I don't agree with Biden completely on guns But even Biden his toughest. He is with the whole being able to sue a manufacturer of a company to do it He still not saying he wants to take people's guns away well. I don't think any smart politician will unfold the whole plan. I think it's a less warm-up you know it's like don't give me naked and don't have sex with me. Basically is why I thought were the Bra Thursday. I thought with the pennies is leading somewhere. And we've seen this throughout the last. What sixty eighty years of just politics leading from one thing to the next now? What we've seen is right. Wingers losing their minds and making up these slippery slope arguments for the last sixty years. I can play you a speech from Ronald Reagan talking about the end of freedom because of social security so like well our grandchildren. It'll look back and say this was the day of America died because of social security payments to old people. It's the beginning of the end. It's the nanny state I mean how. How do you not think there should be some basic background check in license required to carry a deadly weapon? There is there's already background checks in place. When I go to buy a gun I have to do a background. Not if you go to a gun show by then. That's something that needs to be fit. Hold on on hold on what does it mean year. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Man We are on the exact same pager that needs to be fixed. I think that needs to be fixed. You think that needs to be you know what. Republicans call that gun control restricting my rights we ju- Ninety three percent. Nine thousand three percent of gun owners believe there should be more more restrictions and background checks. That's it and that the gun. Ho loopholes should be closed. I don't know I've never talked to a single person who thinks the gun hole. Loophole is a good idea. They all understand that it's terrible but when when the liberals go will then. Here's a bill. That would require that to happen. Knots and stop people from selling guns at gun shows that they call it gun control and say they're trying to take and then it's a big. It's a huge deal again. If we go down the rabbit hole in many of these issues you actually agree with us. And that's what's so perplexing Michael and is when we when we push the envelope of abortion you go. I hate it. I'm against it but I don't WanNa make it a law. That's crossing the line and when we talk about guns you're like yeah that that needs to be fixed. Well they don't they don't come out and say that the gun hole loophole needs to be fixed the Republicans call that gun control and they fight against it. So you agree with us on these issues. But by voting for trump you're voting against your own interests. Well technically I mean the argument that I hear 'cause I even the NRA is for closing the gun. Show Loophole No. They're not that's the argument from trump conservative. That I know the argument is I just sat here and said that NATO said he was GonNa take a are fifteen and he was going to do these things you said. Bagel did make it into the race here. We got Joe Biden who is not a nomination for president sitting down at a table with battle. Rorick say that this is going to be the guy that helps me with goes. So what are we supposed to expect? You don't think these guys aren't a hoops. Maybe battled to set the quiet part out. Yup Maybe I have to point out though that it's not even so much we found out after Sandy Hook that it's actually it's not you the conservative voter. That's driving the Republicans because after Sandy Hook Eighty seven percent of Americans and over fifty percent of Republicans were in favor of a federal background. Check but the gun manufacturer lobby. The multibillion dollar weapons manufacturer lobby was against it and they couldn't pass it because of that. They had eighty seven percent support national. That is an unheard of number of support behind a bill over fifty percent of Republicans over fifty percent of registered. Nra members were for it and they still couldn't pass it because the bosses of both parties. I'm willing to admit this every time said no dice because it hurts the bottom line. They make a lot of money selling guns to anyone that wants one in federal background checks and other registrations and gun Gun Hole Loophole. This makes them billions of dollars. And that's what really speaks. And that's the power in this country which gets to the root of the real evil but if you WANNA stay with Second Amendment they all represent you. They don't represent you. They represent the gun manufacturers the weapons manufacturers and we can prove that because you and your people like you were in support of federal background checks after Sandy Hook while. I'm not under the impression that I wanNA federal registration for guns like I don't want the federal government knowing who has gone where the guys are. Hell believe it happened after that because it makes it that much more easier to do. A gun back Buy Buyback Program to take our future because they know who has them well. They not allow cars because they're deadly and dangerous and you have to register it and ensure it until the government who you sold it to and you sell it. You can't just drive around her unregistered car and that's a mode of transportation. That just happens to be dangerous as a as an offshoot of being a mode of transportation this is an actual killing machine designed to kill and in some cases. Kill a lot of people quick and yet you you don't think that that's That we should be aware of who has them and where what they're doing with them and where they're going with them. Do you have a problem with people with registering your car No because my car is not a fundamental right. I don't have the right to drive a car but I do have the right to protect myself. Have the right. So here's the deal urine atheist that means you have already acknowledged that somebody writing something down a long time ago doesn't make it more valid than what we're going through today right you you on being an eighties. That's what you've already accepted because people who don't accept that still hold onto the Bible and say it's more important than everything else going on in Modern Day God's laws more important than our laws and that's a whole fight. We don't even need to get into with you because you already accept that all right so it. We're not talking two thousand years or four thousand years. We're not talking Old Testament New Testament. We're not talking job. We're talking seventeen hundred. Eighteen hundreds still a long time ago. These dudes we're talking about muskets and cannons all right. These are talking about Lucia about militias fighting against government tyranny. Okay I'm not a hundred percent on board with everything our government. Does I think my point is that just because something was written down a long time ago doesn't mean we should put a whole lot of stock into it. I think that intelligent people can acknowledge things have changed and that no matter how many ar fifteen or muskets or even M16's and Bazookas you own if the Marine Corps wants to take your shit they can and you know that if they want to kill you they can you. You are not going. I mean we take like we. We fight big ask countries with billion dollar defense budgets and make them look like kindergarten children. Okay so no matter. How many guns heavier your has no matter? How good of a shot. His wife is with the sniper. The the the government's GonNa take your shit if they want. We have passed the point of being able to fight off our government Successfully but what what we have done. Though heavier we've risen to the point of creating massively deadly weapons that can kill tons of people in a matter of seconds. I don't think that modern day logic should be ruled by old ask books. Anita little time to properly respond. Okay I can jump in on that one because I have a lot of issues with the Second Amendment and for one when you talk about It was set up at a time when we had no standing army. If you read the federalist papers or anything from the founders they were all against the idea of a standing army that's the third amendment is all about they. Nobody ever talks about the third amendment which is result a direct result of the Quartering Act. Which is the third amendment says that the government cannot station soldiers in your house during a time of peace. Now that that very amendment reads very anachronistically. You read it and you're like that's that's weird. I don't even understand that. Which is evidence that it was written in a different time when there is a different mentality. But furthermore the actual phrasing of It reads A well-regulated militia being necessary for this courtesy of a Free State. The reason they added states in was because they needed to protect the slave patrols of the south at the time because they were worried that northerners would use the second amendment to take away the rights of the slave patrols. So that's why they put in the word state but it's talking about militias when there is no standing army. We were the army when there was a time of trouble. The militia would gather in the town square. And they would monitor. And they were that's what Washington's troops would do so everything about it hearkens to a different age and a different time it uses the word arms specifically doesn't say guns it says the right toe and bear arms shall not be infringed wall firms at that kind included not just muskets cannons and any other thing that they had now. The term arms hasn't changed over the last two hundred and fifty years but our understanding or we've decided that the second amendment just means guns when in reality the Second Amendment as it reads you should have a militia we should still be on a militia system and the these militias should have access to nukes and drones. I mean it is a nightmare amendment. It reads like it's just from two hundred and fifty years ago. I always say to right wingers. I'm like dude. I leaving your right to bear arms and as such say repeal the Second Amendment and write a new one that actually gives you a right to guns because the second amendment is so weak that if you keep getting behind of mentally it's going down because the wording is archaic. The notions are are no longer. I in fact the first part of the amendment the part that says a well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a Free State. That's technically a qualifier. That makes the second part what it is. Therefore the rights of the people to have in bear arms shown up infringed while the first part doesn't apply any more because we don't need the security of our three state based on a militia regulated militia. We have the army we we now have standing armies in fact the largest standing armies and history of the world so when it comes to the Second Amendment I always get a little bit weird where it just. I don't even know that it says what everyone says. It says it's well your robot onto a lot a lot to respond to. Yeah so I'm under the impression that people on the left made the argument that you can't beat the government and the government is this moti billion dollar machine that can't be beat and if they want your gun they'll take your guns. That's point number one and two the essay but I have the right to die for I. League have the right to try to attempt to protect myself and the second thing that I would say is there are militias all around the world who put up a fight against America. The Taliban Isis you know these are people who actually put up a fight against the government and that's given the fact that the government is holding back but you also have to take out how many people in the government will defect. How many people in the government will decide not to go along to get along? I was not ready for the argument in defense of fighting killing American soldiers. I have to be honest with you. obviously that's you got me a little off guard there so you're saying that you want the right to shoot debt and kill American long. Does men agents. So that's not how phrasing I want to fight this thin myself against anyone rather it be military law enforcement citizen. I want the right to defend myself if put in a position where I must do that and if I die in the process of doing that that's my freedom to try to protect myself. Okay so Ellen to hold on Michael so Michael You kinda jumped in there and added so much to it. He never got a chance to respond to my old text versus modern day thought analogy so I would like him to address that and then I wanna I wanNA talk about that. What you just said heavier but I'll let you responded the old text I Because I the right to defend yourself. I'M GONNA write that down and I'm GONNA. I'm gonNA address that in just a moment but I before we get too far away from it. I WanNa know your thoughts on Having this old text which is obviously outdated still sort of control the narrative of of of the right well though when it comes to controlling the narrative of the right. I mean I'm not I'm not the Ri- on the individual and speak for if exactly what it is that I stand for. We'll hold on. Let me be clear about that. My whole my whole point in this show is to show you Javier that you voting conservative you. Voting for trump is voting against your actual beliefs and interests. That's my whole point and so when I say the Conservatives I say they are saying they don't want to close the gun hole loophole because that's called Gun Control Abbott. You agree with closing the gun. Hole loophole like Michael. And I do Joe Biden can help fix the problem as you said right. That's what we're saying is that Joe Biden is a better vote for your views or Joe Biden is going to take it a whole lot further than I'm willing to go and that's where I draw. A line is voting for one person or a certain party is not board down to a few issues. All these things have to be taken a consideration as a whole and sometimes reach out a bit one issue and say how can you still vote for Donald Trump after he did X Y and Z? Well let's talk about ABC. You know so sure it depends on how you frame the discussion but back to what you were saying. As far as the tax being old Yes the Texan outdated but the difference between the Bible in my opinion versus the Second Amendment is I think the second amendment is a good idea. I think the Bible is a bad idea. It doesn't matter the age of something Shakespeare can still be good. Okay a hundred years from now. Okay but okay. So let's let's let's look at the car example right. What if I were to argue with you and say I don't think I should have to register my cars and let's say this morning there was someone in your neighborhood a six year old kid who got ran over by a car and there were no such thing as license plates so all they said was it was a blue four-door car? What was the? What was the tag? A withstood here. Did Doughnuts on top of this little kids face and then took off. We had plenty of time to look at identifying information. We just knows one male and a blue car with four doors we. We don't know anything else. I think in your mind you'd be like man. There should be some way. It may not be the owner of the cars fault but we should have somebody's door to knock on to start the investigation process. When you agree yes will agree a right. That's all we're saying with registering weapons. It's that's it's that simple man. It's that if if a gun is used in a crime we need to be able to register that look up that serial number see where it was bought who last person to own it the now that dude may say oh. I sold it at a pawnshop. Three years ago. Okay but at least they have a lead they have something they can go on to track that thing down right and if it got sold and the new person had to register it they may be less likely to even commit a crime with it right because then they buy that gun and go. I'M SMART I'll scratch the serial number off and then use it. There may be other identifying information that can lead that back to them so they may be less likely to commit crimes with guns. So what's preventative and it's also about registering that information. And now now instead of a car the kid didn't get ran over their kid got shot and the gun is laying right there and it has a serial number on it but because of the people you vote for the Conservatives that you keep an office there might as well be no license plate because we can't track that gun to anybody so we have no door to knock on. We just want a door to knock on less. Just register the weapons. Nothing in that constitution. Nothing in that. Second Amendment says that the government can't make you register those weapons. You have the right to bear arms. We have a right to know who the hell you are and what you have. Wouldn't you WANNA know if your neighbor had seven? M16's Ar fifteen thousand bazookas. Wouldn't it be information that you would like to know because somebody stockpiling Shit like that? We've seen that story. We've seen that show right. It's good information to have. It's good information has always saying well. Let me let me push back a little bit. I think that there's a process when God's are made like serial numbers Hula so to where they ship that the bullets that you use our red are some way with some kind of serial markings there is so much that goes into making a gun into the final product of reaching. Somebody hands that they already have numerous ways of tracking down weapon. Oh without any laws on the book that said that you had to register federally But also I agree with you for the simple fact that I look out. The car analogy that used. I think you can regulate The car industry to make sure that is the case. I'm not against regulation of the Gun Industry. But there's a line that needs to be drawn at thank gun. People who are for the Second Amendment wants to make a clear definition of. Where do we draw the line? And I don't think the left's draws the line because majority of the guns that are used during the Commission of a crime a handgun but yet we hear a lot about assault weapons which are not the majority weapons us. So what happens when you banned that and people are still using hanged on to go to a massacre people. Are you willing to draw the line at? Ar Fifteen and no further. I JUST WANNA start the conversation about commonsense gun laws. I think that I see how far I would go personally. I think they should be treated exactly like cars. I think you shouldn't be allowed to buy one unless you're properly trained. I think you shouldn't be allowed to own one unless you register it period. I think you need to come back every few years to prove you're still not not not you know Suffering from some condition that that might make that more dangerous look nobody. I don't think anybody walks up. And buys a gun with the intention of killing their spouse or committing suicide. But the problem is it's so easy to get guns that we just have them all in our houses and then when shit gets bad one night instead of it. Being a bad depressed moment it changes hundreds of lives forever. And that's what I'm wanting to minimum so that surrogate as we're both I think me you and Michael Withdraw all agree that somebody's going to school and shooting up kid or whoever is a horrific thing and we don't want that to happen and my my my mind goes to this analogy. Where so focused on the tool that US but I think most importantly like you said we need to focus on training. We need to focus on education mental health. I thank average people. Don't go into school and kill people. Somebody with mental health problems goes into a school and kill people. I if you took away the gun I can guarantee you. That person will find other means of committing that same crime right. Let me hold on. So if there's a few things there number one hundred percent agree that there's a mental health needs to be taken seriously in this country. I blame Ronald Reagan for that I may be wrong. Michael can correct me. It wasn't Reagan. No you're right okay. So it was Reagan shut down our mental health centers and caused those people to become homeless. De-fund that entire thing and shut those down that again conservative. That's considered socialism. Taking care of people. They had a place to go. They had a place be. They had help And they had food. It was the best situation. He closed them all down. And that's when our homeless population absolutely spiked. Okay so we joke around the this crazy homeless guy. That is sad. It is a terrible condition in our country that mental health people suffering with mental health issues are living on the street. It is disgusting. That's one thing you're right that that mental health is be needs to be addressed. I and by the way that was a part of Bernie's healthcare plan and is going to be a part of Joe Biden's healthcare plan as well. He's adopting a lot of the healthcare. Stuff that Bernie was putting forth to get the Bernie supporters to vote for him so mental health is absolutely a priority on the liberal side. It is not for Donald Trump. Donald trump is not out there. Advocating to expand Medicare to include help people with mental health issues. That's not one of his concerns but you were voting for that instead of voting for the liberal side that will be more supportive of healthcare. Once again I think you're voting against your own interest in your own ideals. The second thing is that person who's mentally ill may want to run in and cause havoc. Let's say for example that they did ban Ar Fifteen. They did ban magazines over ten Ten bullets or whatever like California has okay. You're talking to somebody here. Who has a concealed carry permit for the State of Texas? I I mean it's I think it's expired now but when I was living there. I carried a concealed handgun. Well I had. I had a clip. That had I think I had seventeen in one clip and ten in the other and the whole point behind. This is not to stop all deaths from all guns. You know clearly if I had this some sort of assault rifle with a with a drum connected to it that Ki- that held a hundred rounds. You do realize I can do way more damage with that than if I had a nine millimeter with ten bullets in it right. The other thing is court oak of course so so if I walk into that school I hate even being me. If a guy walks into a school was nine millimeter with ten bullets and shoots ten children. That is awful but at some point after that tenth bullet. He's going to have to drop that clip out. He's GonNa have to reload. The idea. Is that gives us a moment to tackle him. Gives us a moment to stop the threat? It gives us a moment to get to safety to save lives if you let someone have a heavy one hundred drum. Now you're talking about a guy who can go into a school and murder people for hours on end create hostage situations and all this other stuff so saying that yes. Somebody could walk in. I mean I could walk into a local school here in L. A. With a frying pan and knock a few kids. The hell out right. That doesn't mean I'm not GonNa ever heard anybody. It's about minimizing the amount of damage. I can do before somebody else stops me. That's all the liberals are trying to do. Well if you want to minimize the amount of damage the person can do. Do you should really be looking at trucks in eighteen wheelers. Because if I get eighty and I run into a crowd of people at a parade I can do way more damage than a fifteen see. Then there's there's this his clavier Javier. I'll you know what you have a license to. And there's a Vin number on your truck and we can find you. We can find you. We can find the person who owns the truck because everything's registered in has public information on it and it all goes through federal and state database and getting that Iraq. Driver's license takes a lot of regulation. You gotta go through schooling. You have to be tested. You have to prove to a professional that you're competent. You know how to drive a truck before they let you drive a new protector and you protect it by being safe because you know how hard it was to get it and you're an aspirant at still aca still let somebody jump in my truck. That has no training. Crank it up and go do something and we still have and we still have a door to knock on. We have to have a daughter knock on with the gun because it has a serial number. The bullets can be traced no. They're they're not always used to not only slept. The heavier heavier you know. Serial numbers are printed on the outside of guns. Why NOT GET SCRATCH? Your right hold on. Why NOT MAKE LAW? This is the manufacturers need to put the serial number inside the gun. Actually Dave if I could jump in they. There's two technologies that exist that the conservatives have fought all the way and that's micro stamping and smart guns now micro. Stamping is very interesting. Which is that your gun. Leaves a stamp on the shell casing identifying what gun fired the bullet the very simple technology. That's completely worked out. Which is that. Each gun has an individual serial number on it and when it fires a bullet the shell casing gets a marking from that gun and you can identify which gun the Republicans have said no way. I don't understand why that seems like a great idea. Why WOULD YOU WANNA know? The bullets came from the if you fired the gun. And you had a good reason to do it. Who Cares that? We know that you fired the gun. And secondly as the smart gun technology which again Republicans have thought all the way and they say no way which is the same as your smartphone. When he picked up the God unlocks for you. And only you. What is wrong with that? What is wrong with that? Well the first the first thing that you brought up. I don't know much about as far as the snapping the bullet and if somebody's against that I don't know much about the argument but on the surface it doesn't seem like a bad idea. Now the argument for the second one as far as smart guns go is given the circumstance that somebody breaks into your home. Things may tend to malfunction. Or if you put your finger on the wrong location it may not unlock for you. Therefore not working to stop the perpetrator. That's the argument. That I've heard for smart guns. If you make a mistake and don't touch it. Hold it the right way. It won't fire therefore you can lose your life given the chance that you're trying to defend yourself. Okay here's the problem with this what we are right now here. We are three thoughtful insightful. Caring humanists who want to see an into gun violence but protect constitutional rights. This is a debate that should be happening in Congress. This is a debate. That should be happening among reasonable people and instead the Conservatives shut it down completely. They are not willing to have this discussion. Why because if Donald Trump even hints remotely the? Yeah we need to look into this. We need to fix the loophole if he says anything like that he's considered anti gun because of the tribalism that is associated with it and it gets shut down by the right. The liberals are willing to have the conversation. You're having a thoughtful insightful conversation including conceding points. You're right about that. I need more time to think about it and yes. I agree with this but I disagree with that. That's what a healthy discussion is. The Republicans aren't even willing to have the discussion man and every time kids die instead of thinking. This is the moment that maybe we should shut that down. Their fix is more guns. Well if we if that little nine year old had a gun maybe then if his teacher had guns maybe we should arm the principles of every school. It's just it's crazy you don't fight for you. Don't fight fire with higher. I don't think that's crazy because let's put it like this bad guys are going to get guns. There's nothing stopping that I don't care what law people who do these things are already breaking the laws that's are put in place. It people saying if bag ask can get a are fifteen a bad guys can get pistols or whatever the case may be. I WANNA be able to have a a large array of choices. When I'm more comfortable with to protect myself now it may not come in the form of a gun a bag. I may come like I said in the eighteen wheeler crashing through people. I would hope that I got a Ar fifteen in the car. Compa start shooting that Truck and try to stay out. If I'm trained. You know but you. You let answer the question for this. Most crimes are committed with handguns. Most crimes are committed with handguns. Why is the argument mostly about a author teens? Shouldn't you be more focused on the gun? That's used mostly in the commissioner. No because handguns first of all our terrible for their much less effective at killing people and the people who tend to go into movie theaters and schools for the purpose of mass murderer. Tend to use semi-automatic high-power rifles. They're not walking into two schools with handguns for the most part. Usually it's big shotguns. It's it's and I'm not I'm not in favor of banning shotguns. I feel like shotgun is per a shotgun is really perfect for home defence. It's only got about six shells in it. it's big ASS mean big. Buckshot or big bird birdshot. You'RE GONNA get your point across the. Yeah it's easy to is easy to fire. It's I mean it. And if if it splatters and you miss and some pellets go into your kid's room. It's very unlikely to kill them right. I think I think gun I think shotguns are the perfect home defense when people buy handguns for home defence. It might be people in my own family recently. Did that and I was like they thought I was going to be all about it because I had my concealed carry permit. I was like that's a terrible idea. You've never been trained. You've never taken classes. You have no idea The statistics around it and by the way when you buy a handgun you are way more likely to hurt yourself or hurt somebody else in your household or commit suicide with it or die by that weapon then you are to successfully protect yourself from an intruder. Fm Mate whenever for that argument of If you pass a bunch of laws the bad guys are going to get the guns anyway. So the laws only affect the good guys too which I always say exactly so if you pass a bunch of laws to register a gun and all this stuff. The cops pulled over a car and the person doesn't have the registration that's how you determine who's the bad guy from the good guy you pull over a car and you say license registration to the guy goes. I ain't got any will the you know you've got a guy that's already breaking the law there so I don't understand when you say the bad guys are going to get the guns no matter what will yes because the bad guys are going to get the guns no matter what if they don't register it and they don't go through the legal processes that's how the law enforcement will be learned immediately assessed coups bad guy with a gun. They shouldn't have when nobody has to register a gun. Antibody can get a Gun. Willy Nilly through the gun show loophole or whatnot and the COP pulls you over. How does he know the difference between the law abiding citizen? That didn't have to register the gun and the criminal that chose not to register the gun despite the law. Well we have to take an account that the harder the harder you make it to buy a gun or to get a gun. Legally the less people who will buy it owned guns legally and especially for people on the left who supposed to be for people who are on the low spectrum of life that lives in poverty or people who live in bad neighborhoods. You know there are elderly women. They are people who can't afford you know to jump through all the hoops to get a Gun. Legally a basically. You're making almost impossible for people like that in that situation to buy a gun and defend themselves when they live in bad neighborhoods. Where bad guys are carrying weapons like that and so forth and this is something that as a gun owner made me start to realize I needed to get rid of my guns in order to safely store your weapons so that guests or children or someone untrained or unexpected doesn't grab it and accidentally goes off you have to secure it? It needs to be unloaded and it needs to be in a gun safe if your weapons are in a gun safe and unloaded and bad guys quote unquote show up to your house with a Ar. Fifteen's you are still screwed. The only way to truly be prepared is if they call you ahead of time and say I'll be there at five. Pm WITH MY AR FIFTEEN. You better get your fifteen ready. I know that California has a lot of law that I'm not familiar with when it comes to guns but here in Georgia by gun is loaded. My Gun is loaded in a hosted with this in the holster properly. It will not be fired. I've trained with my gun on as The mask this is is the gun out right now. I got it in a reachable place. I've said that much okay. Do you have kids in the house? I don't well unfortunately I don't have any kids. I only have adult am Hawaii. Okay well In the situation and I can go by Texas Laws for sure the laws in Texas if you have a gun in a holster you haven't loaded you. Have it available if a child if a minor is any has the ability to access the gun? Even if it's unloaded okay. An unloaded gun if a child has the ability to access. That weapon is a class B misdemeanor. So you're already breaking the law. So now we're getting down to people who let's say you're trained. You know how to use it but your wife has no idea what's going on. It won't fire in the holster. I Bet I could make it fire in the holster. I Bet I could and I think you know that. So yeah there are safety precautions. But it's not a perfect science. The issue is of your. It comes down to probability comes down to statistics if someone were to kick in your door right this second while you're on my show. They've already got their gun. They knew they were coming. You didn't. The element of surprise is far greater than you have there. They could kick in your door right now. Shoot you or you at gunpoint. Get your gun from you. The element of surprise is way more powerful right. And if you have your gun. It's in the holster. What if your wife is closer to it in your not this this fantasy that I used to have as a gun owner that I was gonna Chuck Norris Roll across the living room grabbed my gun and have a shootout like the rifleman. It's it's not real. It's just not reality man. It's not something that really happens. And by the way if you shoot at those people won't even if you hit them they're likely to just keep shooting back. It's not like one sound of a pop goes off and they run away. That's that that typically doesn't happen either a lot of people get shot with nine millimeters get shot with forty fives and runaway instill. Never get caught. They don't die so these or so but but but you are far more likely to hurt yourself or hurt someone in your home or a child who comes over and that was something. I won't say who but someone in my family. We'd have get togethers at their home a lot. They had a gun and they had it accessible. It was an accessible area. Wouldn't say out but it sure is wasn't in a gun safe and every time there would be little kids over and look at that person ago is you got up the Joe. I forgot because ninety percent of their life was without guests and then a four year old comes over and they don't think about the gun so that type of stuff happens to man and I I just overall I want to be able to have conversations like this. I want my government to be able to have conversations like this. The Democrats liberals are willing to talk about it and the Conservatives in the pockets of the major manufacturers and they will not come to the table to have the discussion and you're voting for the conversation to not happen even though you realize the conversation needs to happen and that's my fundamental problem. I mean after this conversation is to have a long time and I think there's been concessions made I mean. Just look at the bump stocks. That just happened me. There has been progress on gun control. We we've made a significant amount of progress when it comes to restrictions on guns and there are certain things we just can't own off that But to your point earlier as far as being a gone gun owner and being realistic in a situation where you're under pressure when somebody has the element of surprise I know most gun owners. Don't take this as serious as are probably do. The distance is why I trained on the high situations to be prepared not to allow myself to star or do the wrong thing given the circumstance happened arises and I may be unique but lacked. We'll get into my story but I've been in situations fire. I've I've I've done things in the past. I know how I react in certain situations but there is never a moment in time where I'm in my car or in my home where I'm not at least three feet away from a weapon. Deaths ready to be used under a certain situation. And I'm not saying that every person should do this. But if you're going to own a gun you should have to have training and I mean real training. Would you be favorable? Would you be in favor of making that a law? Because I am of course I would be okay with the the the the the people you vote for. They call that gun control and won't even allow us to talk about it. So why are you voting for that? When you were in favor of Rick of mandatory training like I am well that that goes back to my point. Where and not one issue voters. You have to take the whole thank consideration. That's fine that's fine but we we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk a lot heavier between November and this is one issue that we're talking about so I'm just saying for me. There's a whole checklist. I'm not a one issue voter either. I have issues that are more important to me like separation of church and state and things like that and healthcare and all that but this is. This is pretty high up on the list. Wouldn't you say I mean I would love to see a time in which school shootings are drastically lower or don't exist anymore wouldn't you? I mean we do. That's what we that's what we want for the society that we share right so this is one issue. Where the the red sign that you vote for is not lined up with you on it and this is the first issue we've talked about today and I'll make this my last point on the gun issue Company from a black community. A lot of black people don't understand the laws when it comes to gun. They don't understand their rights. A lot of people who are willing to do it legally don't feel they can do it. Legally there's a history of black people not feeling or being told that they can carry arms and the one that do that live in poor neighborhoods. Where there's a lot of crime you know. Mother fears for her life where she's in certain areas. If a man was to rate my mother I ask myself. Should my mother take training and be well-equipped to use a weapon a firearm and not have to jump through hoops and bound in order to receive that weapon if Cisse poor and she doesn't have the funds to pay the fees to go get registered not travel back and forth to the training sessions or whatnot? You know there there are situations and get statistically more people don't know what they're doing with fire on and shouldn't be owning a firearm and I will agree with you that on every single day of the week. If you tell me what you draw a line and liberals are willing to draw the line somewhere did I think we can have a more realistic conversation about gun. Rights okay I wrote an this is for everybody to look up including you. 'cause I'll show you where I draw the line I wrote an article cold. Why gun nuts? Lie I know from experience Google that why gun nuts. Lie David Smalley. You'll find it. I think it's out on Patios Is One of the most popular pieces. I ever put out and that specific that got. I got so much on that but That'll that'll that'll tell you where I where I come from on that I want to shift the conversation. But I want to get Michael's Input here before we as we wrap up I WANNA I WANNA get your final word here Michael before we move onto the next phase of this. I guess the only thing I'll say is the concession. I've made too many right-wingers which is that. I feel about guns the way. I think they should feel about immigration. Which is I understand that. There's three hundred fifty million guns in this country and they're not going anywhere so. I start from a position of there are three hundred. Fifty million. Guns are not going anywhere. Where do we build from here? Where do we go from here because the idea when people say you gotta get rid of the guns that is insanity and that's ludicrous? And I just say that I would ask the same concession when it comes to immigration. We talk about. There's probably thirteen million documented people. Here where do we build from there? Where do we go from there? Let's let's splits. Let's be let's be fair to each other on these two issues by starting from the same position we start with you. There's three hundred fifty million guns in America. They're not going anywhere. We have to build a reasonable position from that point forward and I'd say the same thing back to most of my conservative friends on immigration. Which is okay. The idea of getting rid of Albion documented people. That's ridiculous we can't start from that position. So let's start from reality so only from that point of view decibel. I'm impressing that. If I WANNA gay something I must be willing to sacrifice at least two things to gain. I think what we losing in this country as -bility to everybody can't win all the time there has to be a level of. I'll give this up if you're willing to D.'s. And we have to decide what those things are and how much we value those. You could catch catches all sides and say oh. I'm not moving in a big on that last point we give up our rights all the time willingly right you carry your gun but you said earlier you went to Hawaii. You didn't carry your gun on that plane right so you were willing to give up your right your right to bear arms to get on the plane to go to Hawaii so that vacation was enough to help you give that give that right up. The question is the question. Is How many kids. How many schools? When are we gonNA reach that limit? Were that's even to that trip to Hawaii in. You're willing to say you know what maybe we do. Need a little more restriction on this. That's my issue and the Republicans don't seem to want to budge like adderall. Like in the slide lemonade. Propose this to you I'm willing to go to mental health route and see how significant the impact we can make going that route. And if there's no real impact after we get this mental health issue highlighted and we start tackling the issue that these kids are going through and trying to get help we we may have to salute as what we have to trust off the notes now and I'm willing to push further and we can have this conversation but let me let me say this real quick Yeah last thought but Allah dies. It's okay I'm Gonna I'm GonNa read this with with a short little story. I was watching live. Pd The of the day and this guy had the phone call was a guy with weapons is threatening neighbors and the cops show up and this guy's got this little. It's a little pond in his yard. Okay but it's it's big enough that I mean it would take you if you were to jog around and it might take you a minute or two right. It's not huge. It's not a lake but it's also not a puddle. Okay it's it's it's a pretty good size body of water and he standing on one side of it. He's got a knife in his left hand in a giant machete in the other and he is screaming. He's losing his mind is screaming at these cops. One cop pulls his Taser out and the dude starts walking around the pond to meet the COP with a Taser. You want to pull your book days around Bro. And he's like screaming. You threaten me with teaser. I mean he is clearly not well and cops start going around the other side and they Four or five of them show up some of them have They have the bean bag with a rubber bullet shotguns. They have tasers out and some of them have deadly firearms out. They start chasing this dude. He takes off running. They shoot him in the back of the legs and stuff with Rubber Bullets. He falls down. He drops the machete. They have to wrestle the knife from him there punching him spraining with pepper spray. Finally get him cuffed. They stand him up in the back of his shirt says ban idiots not guns and it just makes you wonder. What does that guy consider an idiot? Who who does he think should not have guns? Because I'm pretty sure. All of US watching include him in that group of People. That shouldn't have guns but at the moment that he bought those guns he was probably doing just fine. It's not about who you are. It's who you may become while like minority report as far like You know people for Crown may commit in the future. I mean I get that people feel powerful with a weapon in their pants but people feel more powerful in a group of people. I mean. That's how you end up with antiques or the Neo Nazis. I get that I get that done empowers people and I don't want people shooting Guinea. I get that we're on the same side when it comes to that as just. There's distrust that I have the. I don't think that the Democrats the ones that you're voting for a whole lot more that you want and I get that feeling from Joe Biden and a mini Democrats that were running like more more power. The government takes they want more power. We just we just want to not kill children at this point but I guess we'll continue the conversation. I I WANNA move into another piece before we move into your story. I WANNA go ahead and tease what I WANNA talk to you about in the Patriot portion. Okay because you weren't prepared for this but I'm going to ask you some some is going to get real well. We're GONNA have some tough questions and I don't want you to respond to it now. It's going to be in the Patriot section. Okay and it's about the confederate monuments Don't say anything yet. But I'm super curious because the Conservatives including Donald trump praise the confederal the the the confederate monuments. They say it's part of our history. They have speeches where they talk about. The loyalty of the confederate soldiers needs to be rewarded and celebrated but these people were terrorists fighting against the federal government for the right to own black people. And so I think they should all be torn down. I think they should. They need to be taken to a museum somewhere. We shouldn't forget about it. But that's like to me driving through Germany and seeing statues of Hitler and Nazis. You put that Shit in a museum. You don't celebrate it on public capitals. I'm curious because when trump got the opportunity to address it he actually praised the monuments and said it was a part of heritage but when the monuments were put up in nineteen nineteen the grand wizard of the KKK is the one that gave the induction speech to welcome the statute. So I'm curious I think you consistently. I'm your views on. Abortion are closer to mind and they are Donald. Trump's your views on guns are closer to mind and they are Donald Trump's but you seem to be voting in that direction and I think in this situation. I am so curious. You've surprised me a lot. So we'll see but I'm very curious as to how how you're going to defend trump in that or talk about those confederate monuments but before we get into that for the patrons let's get into your personal story I'll just let you tell it I'll let you talk about it because I don't know that much about it. I know there was something happened in your past which is somewhat may be related to what we were just talking about but Let's go ahead and get started with it because when you first reached out to me you you mentioned that there was a pass there and we never got into it. The first time we talked so we said we were going to sit down and talk about it for a for a dedicated show. But there's so much political stuff going on. We had to talk about this stuff too. So why don't you just tell a little bit about your background and get into your story? Yeah I'm more. I'm not the guy that most people know on the heavier having. Yeah so or like I'm not guy you wouldn't imagine the guy used to. Let's say that I I suffer from what you would call obsession Since I was a kid I would get it into something. I will become obsessed with it so if I was Muslim I become a jihadis air. When I was a Christian I became. Hey you can practice madge. If you've practice imagine we'll have some problems and I wanted to be. I've always been a fanatic in a sense. I'm that way by nature so growing up. I grew up in the projects call West Gate and this is in Georgia Basically I was born and raised their crime ridden. I got six brothers and sisters and we all lived in the same house. My mother and father was divorced so with my father left. He still been in my life. My father was always in my life but by the streets took a whole would know the streets got hold of many of us and affect. It was around the age of twelve when my brother went to prison is when I really got absorbed into the the life of Dean against and when I wanted to be against I wanted to die in prison or die by bullet. I want people to know that I was the biggest game. So that ever walked the planet because I'm a fanatics and not only wasn't Fanatic about being engaged. At that moment I was a fanatic. As far as kristen goes I was going to church faithfully and I was writing notes in my book. I was the pastor. Love me they was giving me personal lessons and I was very good at getting people on my side. People believed in me even when I was doing the wrong thing so there are certain things that I won't talk about of course but I originally started committing crimes. I started Jack Boy. I was robbing Peter that that was my thing. I had my one of my best friends. He sold drugs my other best friend. He sold guns and Iraq. So Iraq up drug dealers with two guys that my homeboy will provide and I will take the draws. Give it to my other homeboy. Let himself makes cut. So that became my life and I went to move daddy when I was fourteen years old. My mom had enough for me. I have been back and forth juvenile So my daddy decided okay. Let me take you me see if I can get you back on the right path. It lasts long before I knew my daddy was thinking about putting me in a boys home but eventually be I just went back to my mom's place in just started living in the streets So at age thirteen I get caught for robbery. Charge and possession of illegal substance with do tend to district Disturb you get with the firearm charge. Basically be me. And when my homeboys we rob a white guy we will. We were going throughout the streets searching for somebody to rob and I wanted to rob somebody so bad because one of my one of my connections was going to prisoners so I needed to read up on drugs so I was like. I need to make some real money now. So we went looked somebody rob Couldn't find anybody gave up as soon as I gave up a white gaston walk across the street. I say White Guy. Because I think it's relevant to you know. Keep it on a really care as much when you rob each other but when you have a white guy you more significance. So my homeboy didn't know what's going I tell you down. The white guy held at gunpoint. GimMe what you got took. Everything ran off eventually. I was I was telling myself so I didn't really rise too long. Ran For about a block down the street and then I started talking to myself. Were unknowingly the guy that rob ran out into the street. Somebody picked him up and they went searching for me. And My homeboys day spotted us now this bass situation because these guys have done we will really be in a situation but they call the police so the police put up on. Us guys drawn. Get on the ground get on the ground and started to keep walking and I started walk because I wanted to drop a gun inside a Bush. So hopefully you're gonNA find a gun and I could say it wasn't me but ended up finding so I go to book. I'm fifteen at the time. Keep in mind two years. Go by homeboys seventeen. So he goes to the county jail I go to the juvenile a in icon bomb attack. Her mom armed robbery. I'm not concerned about the armed robbery. Because I'm thinking I'll get six months in jail. I'll you know I didn't know at the time. It was ten to twenty years minimum. Maximum for bribery. Charge just on robberycharge. A I was supposed to get off probation that Friday. I got locked up that Wednesday. So police officer came in and said. Hey may stop start right. I'm like what I mean. We gotta Jolla Tire. Let's do this. He's like now. You're looking at ten to twenty years. Twenty eight silicate uptown so I already understand gravitation. I'm like all right man. I'M A soldier. This is what I do ours. Prepare for so long story short rambling on a lot but fast forward a year six months later. I'm still haven't received my time at all and I'm praying heavy. I'm Paul Ryan but I'm still doing bad things while I'm locked up. I'm still taking kids meals. I'm still running some kind of organization while I'm locked up. I'm still making things hacker but I'm still deeply in my face for some reason. Christianity a me being a gangster co exist at same time because I felt like God had chose me. The important stole your six months in. I'm going to the superior. Court face attended twenty years. I got a court appointed lawyer. He doing nothing. He Ain't worth crap. you get out of this you know. I need to get back to the streets. You know I gotta be somebody so the day that all supposed to get my time twelve hours before that the Superior Court judge is the top judge in the Superior Court. The head guy charged everybody by selling me. You get ten or twenty years this around Twelve Hour. Before he he gives me an exception. Say you know what the data taught me. My Dad got on the stand told him he didn't blame me for what I did. Eve blamed himself because it was designed to keep his son safes. Who was his keeper son? Not Roaming the streets trying to kill people in China for our people. He failed as a father in a judge. Does like. Don't make excuses for your son. He was like no. It's my job on his fault The compassion just based on what my father said. He gave me a five year deal. Juvenile will be locked up until I was twenty years old. We get out of juvenile and I served the whole five years a I got out when I was twenty years old so I grew up. Fifteen to twenty in juvenile. I'm twenty seven now I wasn't in politics By the time I got of jail our was eight years while I was locked up the chaplain. He taught theology in Augusta Georgia. He talked he was teaching me everything he knew. He taught me from Genesis. Away revelation. I read the Bible four-time back I had a lot of time and more and more. I read warm. Why learned he started breaking things down in Hebrew and I was like. This doesn't make sense know lot of the show on earlier religious. A this similar to this click in my head but I was still fanatic. I still wanted to believe so I got out twenty years. Oh this girl you know her. She did but she's a coat so I said you know I'm trying to be on the right path. Here let me find a nice little turns going girl and they'd be something to work out so I go to the cold and I'm still at this moment trying to believe in because I don't know what atheism is and I've never heard of eight years. I never met eight years. Didn't know they existed something about Christianity. Don't make sense to me. So I built to this Cole Past. The has the women clean his house. Yes women have to justice certain way the mid half the dress a certain way. I got a job at a bowling alley. He told me I had to quit my job because they sold liquor. I mean it was very controlling a not to be controlled so I started bumper Hayes with past and people started coming to meet the axes. I was questioning him on the day. He didn't even know about people coming to me. So he started out he started going up on going on the Colony out saying I won't listen to him. I listened to my dad. I don't WanNA listen but people was coming to me for information because I knew more about our that he did so. I went outside the California. I say we can finish head. I'm a grown grown man. I don't care nothing about you. The preacher let's do this with the girl calmed me down so I love and I never looked back but that was the moment where I realized religion dangerous and I realize what people could do with the power of religion in people beliefs so I started watching Christopher Hitchens. I started watching Sam Harris. Just trying to seek answers and the moral while listened to realize man Christianity. You don't make says this Christianity you'll make sense at identify until later on but that's basically my story and the talking a lot but I'm gonNa tell you that was fascinating. Don't feel like you were rambling at all. I feel like That was thank you for sharing that. That's huge And I'm so amazing story how it really is. And I'm so glad you're able to make that turn around. Wow there's so much so I I'm curious about the quote that you called it What was what was the denomination or what branch. What would what Iraqi of Christianity was it denominational? They had no denomination they. They in claim with denomination they said every denomination was against God to separate themselves. Anybody was welcome. But you have to follow. Certain rules And a lot of people say that Christianity Sales People but atheism. Save me because the moment that I cast of my mind that God had a plan for me that I was destined to be self whether it was a gangster or whether it was a leader of Church I've had people had their As a we want you to be the past and I knew that I had control issues. I had to be the person with cower. That's hard now and when I became eight years everything cleared up. I realize I'm not chosen by God. I don't have a special destiny. You know. Eighty of them save me. You know usually hit Christmas. Cry Down Atheism saving so you became an atheist around what age I'll take the light. Twenty two years old n even atheist laws at the time was only about five years ago. Wow so I was a fanatic. Atheism at one point myself. Yeah how how? How did that go? What tell me about the the the fanaticism around being an atheist? Some of us are listen to Christopher hitches. The anti the way he spoke the way. Richard Doc is you know just the the amount of dollars had in the way. They commanded the conversation not that they were fanatic. But it gave me a surprise and I was like I've got all this newfound information I gotTa tell people so I started going around churches. I started calling passes. I WANNA debate you in front of your whole congregation. Let's do this at once. Again fanatic by nature so the atheism took me over and I went full force it faithfully. I got my daddy and my life. He he was able to steer me and realize that. You got you diller with and teach you how to control the I went to three years in juvenile under mental evaluation. I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia polar disorder and most violent. I mean I had broken guys Moses. I've I've valid things while locked up. Threes mental health counseling just to come out on the side and you know so. I bet to a to control what it is that I've been dealing with says. I've always been a kid as a lot there. So how how did you find my show? You came across with my journey. I had ran out of things to listen to this. And that's hold on hold on hold on that's the new slogan Dogwood Beat for when you run out of Shit to listen to all this so I've been listening to you for a long time so I listen to. Christopher hitchens read all his books and where he died well I think he died before Before I realized he was but I. Don Harris are listening to Sam Harris. What to Richard? As I went through Lawrence Krauss I went through the whole nine yards and I was just out of material and I started looking. Eight Years Debates. Eight years debates. I start looking dog. You came up as soon as I heard. It was all from there. I listen every week every week faithfully. I was like also affect you did. The great jobs is talking to Christmas. Wasn't rude about it. You respect fool and had a healthy dialogues even more respectful than our be argument before I got myself under control. So that's how I found. You was cool man. I appreciate that so this is this is making me. Think of something when you were when you were a juvenile and you're convicted. Does that consider you a convicted felon or because it happened as a minor you me record when you turn twenty and get out. How does it work a because originally charged as an adult and because the judge dropped me down juvenile only give me the five years invaded Lesser I had to wait till I got out and then I had to go wait two years and then I went to the courthouse and I asked my record to be exposed. They gave me a lawyer. I Win Pay. My did the whole thing in a record. So you're you're not considered a convicted felon not at all. That's good that's good so you can vote. You can have the gun legally and all that definitely the funny thing is I know a lot of people come to realize there is no god but I have been to a lot of things that was just finally got all the time like I got jumped by like twenty guys while I was locked up me and two other guys got jumped by twenty guys from Atlanta. Georgia I won't go away without a scratch. I was fighting back but I walked away without a scratch and I was like no guy who got me. Is that bill that you like God looking out for everything? That happens is reconfirmed. Even five years that I got after not getting ten to twenty guy got I have a long way to get out the. Wow man that's huge. I've always always known that atheism can save but I don't think it's. Atheism is doing the saving. I think it's the humanism piece that's doing the saving but hearing your story really just brings that Holman and confirms that it's possible for it to have that positive effect in someone's life so that's huge man. Michael I agree that was the those most compelling part of your story for me is when you said atheism saves which is I feel. It saved me too. I feel that Doing away with the the notion that that there's a purpose for my life has given me the strength to find a purpose in my life. Strive that I've taken my hands my life out of the hands of what? I consider to be something more and put it into my own hands and When you said that it really resonated with the obvious it's a great story man I. I hope you had considered doing more to get your story out. I mean David I live in Los Angeles California and I'm sure our first thoughts were like screenplays shaping up nicely right. That and I think you would be great as like a a motivational motivational speaker for teenagers. Like especially in those types of areas where I could see you go into high schools and telling your story and sharing that you know you're very real The way you come across is is genuine but you know you made some mistakes. And you've turned it around. I think you could be a big inspiration to a Lotta Lotta young men following the Occurs to put my voice out because I suffered with some form narcissism. I would say because I felt like university around me and I want power so I was very hesitant to put myself out because I didn't want to become obsessed again but I think I've overcome it to the point where I'm humble you know. I try to remain humble if things I don't know I'm willing to say that and I want to. I WANNA put my story out. I'm writing a book right now. it's this fire by my story but is gonNA is fixing but it's also spied by a lot of life units that. I've been through I PLAN WILL COME TO LA panel getting involved with community. These things that I wanna do and the only thing I could do at this moment was started Youtube Channel. Estar having real conversations getting people involved do people have we continue to general quick. The HAVI heaviest show on you to J. A. V. I. E. R. May so you spell it twice. I may not say everything that you like. I'm trying to have a conversation is stuff. I'm still learning so don't be too hard on. Let me tell you this when you get ready to move to La. Leave Your Dame guns in Georgia? We don't we don't want that. Shit here let me ask you do you think can also and you come to La. Look US UP. Avi Air for as long as you leave your damned guns and Georgia. Don't come into my House de Revolver. Let me ask you this. Do you think that that piece of you? That is very much a fanatic and goes all in all or nothing. Do you think that has something to do with the The trumpism that whole you into that that mindset. There does element to that. I made that first. Hand dare his element. I don't think he's the majority of element there. That's what got me interested in trump from the very beginning. Okay because I saw a guy who did back down. He was interested in that. Will I captivated and then I started listening trying to figure out what issue may who was right who was wrong. Donald Trump got into politics. A iselin what's still need to learn but I will say I think I'm doing too bad so well starting off you know But there are a lot of issues. I'm still learning about. I think. Yeah Paulie of you. You defend conservative a conservative ideology. Well obviously a debate sometimes on online on the power movement page. I will ask you I don't know that you need to answer this right now but maybe for future conversation. I would like to put together a case since you were in a cult by your own definition. I'd like to try and have a discussion with you about the similarities between the Maga- cult in my opinion the tr- The cult of trump and other colts. And I'd be curious if you see. Similarities definitely is populism as best. I thank Stephen Bannon. Going IN. It was populism. I think I think Obama was populism below. There is a very good sense of Kotik personality. I mean Joe Biden would be forced to be arm. John Bernie Sanders. If if they had that smooth talk that Obama. Had you know that that that that walk yeah of course but I mean when it comes to the gentleman that was the leader of the cult? You are in with. It believed that he was somehow divine that he was somehow better than your average person. What was it that made him the leader ordained by God? God had chosen him he. He was a military guy and when I said he spoke he spoke with authority. A It only took somebody like me to challenges to challenge him. Because everybody else would. Just how could you fight back against this guy who speaks with authority? When he says something you could feel the conviction behind it. Like he was a hundred percent sure of himself and I think only because I had same personality I was willing to respect him but I could see it. Most people could not fight charisma leader in such a way. Well my first question would be. How do you feel when you hear that? This large percentage and I'm not sure exactly what that percentage is but of Evangelical Christians believe that Donald Trump is ordained by God and was chosen by God to be president as an atheist. Do you do you find that. Problematic is very problematic. He an atheist conservative is. That's a tight tightrope back that live like Is is a very very much a balance at but this is what I wanted to say earlier to. Dave it slipped my mind. If you wanted to change conservatism. I think the best way to do. It is with data services. At paid. If you're not with their conservatism. You're just the enemy of you're trying to change us by the all with two -servative to change and reform is gonNA happen with it. I really do believe that I get that and I. I'm just sitting here imagining. All of the people who feel like Javier should be in their group and throw a fit when he's not like it's. It's almost like you. You just don't disappoint so many people because you're you don't think the way they think you should like for example when you say you're a trump supporter or not trump supporter but a trump voter guess and they find out. You're in atheist. They're like Oh not you you one of us man you. You're supposed to be on our side. What do you mean? You're you're an atheist you'll believe in God you're not going to church with us and then atheist find out. You're a trump supporter that what trump. You're supposed to be one of us to be thinking liberally like this and then when black folks find out you're either one of those things like what are you supposed to be one of us. What are you doing with with the white devil atheist and with you know it with with with trump? It's just it's funny that you don't fit into any category man and I think that's what we love about you but but remember you don't have to hold onto those things to be unique. I mean you are who you are. Your story is amazing. So don't feel like you have to like if you give up trump and decide to vote liberally in this election that somehow removes a part of your identity and I think a lot of people do feel that way and when when Sigmund Freud coined the term group psychology in nineteen twenty one. That's what he about he talked about. How essentially group psychology is when someone is willing to replace a portion of themselves with the group it. Here's a perfect example. Let's say you were a football game. Twelve degrees outside and guys. Have you know eagles painted across their chest or whatever and they have no shirts on? We can look at that and say oh. That's funny that's cool. Those guys might get on TV. Might not if they do get on. Tv is going to be a split second and their faces aren't what we're looking at. We're noticing the guys have these giant letters painted across their chest. So the concept here is they are now. Saying the group's benefit the group's ego is more important than the individual's needs of being warm and comfortable so I will do this to benefit the group even though it hurts the individual right and so when you walk up to that person and say don't be an eagles fan. Eagles aren't that good or eagles or terrible. That person feels attacked and they feel that you're actually asking them to remove a piece of themselves so it's so hard to get people to come out of that mindset. Christians are the same way they very much identify with. Christianity is not something I believe. It's who I am right and so it's very hard to get someone to remove that piece of themselves. It's a long process and I think the same is true for most things dealing with tribalism and just like crips and bloods. Same Situation I and I would say the same is true for for the magazine called the people who will day in day out. Trump trump trump. No matter what we go. What about this terrible thing? They did just like you. They'll go terrible. I hate that about him. Trump twenty twenty. Like what. Wait why why is it? Just still trump trump trump and we bring up an individual issue. You'll you'll acknowledge you'll be like yeah. I think he's wrong on that. I disagree with him on that. So you're not gonNA vote for him. Oh I'm still voting for him and that's where Michael Michael and I go. That's the part that sounds religious to US knowing that you're knowing that the team that you're on is heading the wrong direction or is heading in the direction that you wouldn't drive it but you're still voting for it and I'm going on some cases. Many Bernie supporters are having to do that with Biden. But that's just how bad we think that's just how bad we think trump is and I think I I. I don't remember the exact numbers I got to last time. But I would say if Bernie Bernie would have got me about ninety two percent of where I wanted to be. Biden is probably seventy four that and I feel like trump is a negative three hundred right. So that's why I say on voting for Biden and I feel like if we were to line out the issues one by one with you. I think you would lean more towards Biden than you would trump on the issues. But there's something about it. Maybe it's the fanaticism something about it keeps you in the trump camp. What is it okay? So Limit BRIGHTNESS DOUBT. I believe in the two already system not so much. I do believe that we should have alternatives. But if we're going to have a two party system. I believe that they have to be checks and balances between the two parts and a lot of people are under the impression that we could just leave one party behind and if we just allow this other party take keep getting let the keep getting everything is going to be fixed GOI. We have a tendency to move either. that shoehorn that been horseshoe that you talk about people the left or too far to the right. We end up in the same place. So my solution will never be to fix conservatism by leaving conservatism. Because I'm conservative without Trou- Or value system than it is a Truck System Care for the Republicans. I was never a Republican but I am conservatives and I'm looking for the left to understand that we can't go too far left without leaving the right by the right understand. You can't go too far right without leaving the less the high so the only way that I can best frayne this argument to wear people understand the world we're living in is fix your star. I'm going to fix my side and I'm trying to help fix the less but I can't fix the goal because the left's bidding. They don't understand it yet but the left lis leads chart. I really believe the left needs year. I have here I have to say man. I think it is exactly the opposite and let me make that case. The Democrats have put up essentially a nineteen eighty six Republican in Joe Biden. He is a moderate. He's a centrist. He is that guy that is not going to far either way go ahead say. Bernie's too far left all right if Bernie is too far left. Trump is too far right biden. Is Your Guy Trump service? Trump trump is not Republican. Trump is a democrat each switched over because he thought a win the Republican Party which he happened to be right and I guess I'm in a situation where tolliday did Bernie Sanders. It was able to do that. Trump conservative side Bernie Sanders. The standard honesty ended up thinking. Looked like he stood a chance but they was gonNA find a way we all knew in the back of our head. They were trying to find a way to destroy. Bernie Sanders types and the left is supposed to be the champion. The left supposed to be the one. That's fighting for the little people and Fight Info to revoke the matter if the Conservatives got it wrong you should expect the liberals to get it right and if the Liberals can't get it right. They deserve to lose because of the Conservatives are evil. You'RE GONNA call US racism homophobic. You have to lose. The reputation is already destroyed. What happens when the liberal reputation gets destroyed and the Conservatives reputation is destroy is chaos? We see it right now. It's chaos but it doesn't seem to matter when when trump did what he did with Ukraine. The evidence was there. The Republicans knew the evidence was there. Trump supporters acknowledged that. He screwed up that he had done something illegal. He had tried to ask for foreign interference into our elections. The commentary from the Senators was. He learned his lesson. He'll be a good boy. Moving forward one guy stood up to Mitt. Romney won and he believes God is watching his every move and that's why he stood up to trump. That's the only thing keeping Mitt Romney from getting in line with all the other Shady Ass Republican senators. That voted to keep this man in office despite the ridiculous behavior the nasty way he talks to people the childish immature things. He says the anti-scientific things he says about climate change being a Chinese hoax and corona virus was a hoax. And then it wasn't that big of a deal and he's amazing and he's awesome in everything about him as perfect in. He just insult people who disagrees with him. He is everything that we hate the army and nobody said that they won't put our back from chains. I mean this has been gone before. Trump trump is not the problem. Trump is the symptom of a problem. That's been going on in America for a long time. You don't get Donald Trump unless those problems exist I agree. I agree but how year when you have a headache. You still take advil. Advil doesn't make the go away at treats the symptom you at least do something about it. Okay we got to treat a Simpson at BECA. This of trump. I thank you get a better Republican Party. You get a better Democrat Party and and right now the Democrats still think they have no choice. But it's Joe Biden. They got no choice. They Bacon on that when they kicked to the curb. They knew you would make this sacrifice. I know they calculated this. This politicians do if Joe Biden weans. The Democrat. Party is lost to you. You will never get what you want. And the Republican Party their lost. Because they're going with trump but trump got his if trump years and he was out of the door the Republicans we go along with whatever comes next if you kick Donald Trump to the curb. They're going to stay in a position that they're in right now right. Now you're gonNA have the left not respecting your position and the right thing like they were when Donald Trump got to kick to the curb. We'll have to deal with Donald Trump. Let me offer this. You want a more moderate centrist government. You don't want extremes on either side right. I submit to you that if Donald Trump wins a second time after all the bad shit that he's done the illegal shit the cheating on his wife with the Porn Star paying her hush money lying cheating with Ukraine. I mean you could list stuff that he's done he's done wo more shit on the record than any other. President we know of in modern history. He has been conniving. He's been sneaky. He's lied he will say some. Shit in the next day. Look right the camera. I didn't say that. And then he just moves on with his life. This dude is incredible. Incredibly extreme if our if dolphins again after being so in your face so nasty grab them by the Pussy just all the terrible shit that he brought to the presidency. If he wins again I think it gets so much more extreme for you. Javier I think that pushes the right side of politics man. We can go even further now and the Democrats have to come more further right in order to win back some of those votes and we start going down a away that we may never recover from. Well I think I. If trump boost this is worse than if trump wings why does for instance if if Obama loss it will be worse than if Obama won because day it will be against it because he was black. People would much rather feel like okay. We gave Stott regardless if he was glad we got Obama. I whistle on but if you don't pick Obama it's racism. Racism becomes the central focus while we didn't get Obama as President. The first one out shaw the first time but if Obama had lost his re election I think then you could say we didn't like what he did. So so trump got his four years and he has been atrocious. He has been embarrassing to our country spilling actually this while. Y'All have such a heart attack of ditsy conservatives that trump is dead all that he did and you say that is the coach's mentality but I don't think everybody who support trump is a is a cultish fanatic. Let me answer your question. I don't think we are convincing them. I think they already know that he's terrible. I think the vast majority of Republicans or conservatives are like you. They know the shit that he's doing this on paper that's on record is disgusting. It's deplorable it's terrible but I think there is the tribalism of at least he's not a Goddamn Democrat. That's all it is and I can tell you my all or was also the same way with Democrats because don't people defending look. I'M NOT SAYING THAT. Who's worse than who if you WANNA say? Donald Trump is worse than any other president. We had you entitled to say that but the excuses the tribalism four Clinton for other things have been done on the left that existed Dow tribalism existed before this behavior Thou Donald Trimbe not look at all. Don Trump is have you. I've never said I'm voting blue. Just because they're blue they're Democrat. I laid out at the beginning of this show. I laid out in my show with Michael and I laid out in my thirty two minute. Monologue specific that Democrats get us closer to a better humanitarian country than Donald Trump selfish rich ask policies for billionaires. That's what I'm I'm against. Who He is as a person. I'm against his attitude and I'm against his conservative his conservative politics. I'm not I don't know anybody that Says No. I'm voting blue because it's Democrat. It's because of what Donald Trump has done three years ago. There were hundreds of atheists super. Left-wing ANTIFA supporting atheists that. Were calling me conservative. Dave Rubin texted me one time said I hear you're a conservative now and then had a bunch a laughing faces and I said. Don't you ever call me the C word again? He saw hateful messages being passed around about me being added as just a trump supporter as conservative as a neo con. Because I wasn't on board with ANTIFA. Okay now the majority of those folks who were anti me and pro Antifa have seen the problems with ANTIFA and have since come back to reality and I've got a lot of message from folks saying I'm sorry I was mean to you. I kind of got back into my religious mindset. I shouldn't have done that. Thank you for staying level headed okay. We mostly resolved that I was considered a conservative to them because I wouldn't follow their extremist views but I feel like Donald trump is an extremist on the opposite side. And I think you are two logical and moderate to fall for either side. You're not going to be ANTIFA guy but I don't understand why you're trump guy I feel like if you WanNa stay logical and reasonable and be the grownup country that we used to be. I think Joe Biden is the sensible response for that and it's not because I'm tribal with my blue voting. It's because of what Donald Trump has done. Let me add this. If Donald Trump would have been a sensible logical reasonable person who actually got things done improve. The economy didn't fire the pandemic team and cut budgets to the CDC. If he didn't create the problems we have right now. I would be saying. Give me a reason not to vote for Donald Trump Democrats were. I don't I don't want to come off as there are a lot of things that I like that. Donald Trump was done. I think he's done a lot like I like the first that I like. You Know Survey Donald Trump his done that I really think. Why did Obama didn't know for as the first step he didn't step in and help. What IS THE FIRST BUSINESS? Helping the prisoners get out of prison for Petty Drug Charges. People over convicted increasing. You know prison conditions and so forth of that nature you know. Basically to help with the prison systems helped prisoners. Get out early. Who will over sense it? I like that too. I'll do research in it and see. How Much Michael? Are You doing somersaults? What is going on? Cartwheel's did you see that heavier cartwheel's okay so the first step I I'm that's good if trump actually did that among I'm on board with him. What else he got. Hold on hold on the way by the way I'll say it's ironic to me that he would be encouraging to release prisoners from jail while simultaneously locking children in cages on our border. That's that's weird if it's a part of his mindset to free people from captivity it should be all people not just Americans but go ahead. What was the next thing I mean? As as far as I mean there are people mad at Obama. Dramatic many people Deported people were treated. I think Obama also committed a certain amount of drone strikes and I think children were murdered in those Jones strikes. That Obama Gave the call on the. If I'm not mistaken I think Obama even bombs funerals rules to get terrorists chosen was attending and I. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I I heard a conspiracy theorist Had A video about it. I haven't confirmed that. Have you confirmed that heavier from the education that received? That's who are you feeling information from credible sources. Or maybe honest are these conspiracy theories youtubers like what's what's your source says the conspiracy theory and I say affirm I've heard it from multiple sources but I've never really followed it all the way down but I D- normal. He did a a number of Jones. Writes where children were murdered. I don't know about the actual bombing Graveyards and I'm increase sites or so forth rallied Obama deported more illegal immigrants than any other president before him So I mean yeah no look. I know I had that issue. I had the same issue with Obama. I saying that he wasn't GonNa do anything about marijuana users of marijuana facilities in he ended up shutting down more dispensaries than any other president. He definitely has his flaws. He definitely made some mistakes. I think obamacare started off good and then Republicans pushed on it so much to ruin it. Get it through. He allowed his. He wanted to force through obamacare without it being perfect and it ended up being pretty terrible. I absolutely despise obamacare. I don't think we should get rid of it completely anymore. I think now that we have it. We need to improve upon it and expand it but Donald trump just wants to rip it away without a replacement. And that's not okay. We can't just throw millions of people off of health care. That's not gonNa work either so I don't like Donald Trump's plans to fix Obama's mistakes we can go back in time and talked about how him him him being perfect but he sure as hell wasn't making deals with Ukraine Javier. He wasn't saying grab women by the Pussy. He wasn't mocking a disabled reporter on live television. I mean Donald Trump is disgusting man. He made a deal with Russia. Like you know hot mic on. Tell who in their in our back often when this. What's wrong with that? Yeah House in from because if you are that that's purely political. That's kind of yeah. That's only know happening that we know happens. But here's the difference. He leaned over and said one sentence. I'll have more flexibility after the election. That's true that's American politics. That's real okay. But Donald Trump had ongoing conversations and investigations with Ukraine. And then he did this. He goes to Helsinki standing next to Vladimir Putin after all of our FBI and intelligence groups tell our president that Russia interfere with elections. Donald trump comes out. I asked Putin. He said he didn't do it. I believe that Ukraine did it. Why would our president? That's treason bro. That is treasonous to deny all of your own internal intelligence agencies and believe the leader of another country who is said to be our enemy who attacked us in a cyber attack and you agree with that president over your own people. Donald trump is a fucking traitor. How can patriots get behind him? Then me lend me charter. Let's get real for a second okay. There's a lot about me that I just don't express but I'm not making this Yousef for Donald Trump. What I'm saying is I don't know what it's like to be president. I don't Judge Obama too harshly because I don't understand what it's like to be in that so I'm not I'm not with this whole be regular citizens that can act. Does the president any and everything but what I will say is with. You are the president of the United States is a balancing act is between what people perceive and what. Your true intentions really are. And I don't know where that line is. Donald Trump but what I'm saying is there has to be a level of secrecy negotiation and a plan sometimes keeping into enemies closer. The phrase is a smart strategy and I'm not saying Donald Trump is a strategist. He could possibly be doing the dumbest thing in the world but also willing to consider the Donald Trump is trying to play it a certain way to get it like make Putin think he's dumb or Putin fake he's his firm and Donald Struck is working. Another angle is a possible well the willing to rule it out. Well we able to say so with a lot more assurance if we could see the man's tax returns if we knew who he was in bed with but the fact that we don't know who is in bed with that Eric Trump in an interview with golf magazine in I believe two thousand fourteen when they said how are you getting the money for the golf resort said quote. We're getting all the money we need from Russia. And then the man says he's going to release. His tax returns never releases his tax returns. We really don't know what business deals he's made. We know that he's made deals in Moscow that we know that a lot of Russian Business deals were made in the trump tower and then he goes and has this off the record. Nobody can be. They're not even translators. I mean to translators but not even The president's staff can be present in the meeting and then he comes out taking the side of the the dictator. It was really strange and then not to mention it was his worst lie ever the next day when he goes I meant I said I don't see why he would do it. I meant to say I don't see why he wouldn't do it or it was just being sloppy lie. As DONALD TRUMP BEEN TOUGH ON RUSSIA. Than. Let's say the last three presidents I. I don't know as Donald trump been tough on Russia as he says sanctions on Russia as he on ranks he was supposed to put sanctions on Russia and tariffs on Russia. And both he fought tooth and nail even though the Senate unanimously passed them and he knew he couldn't Veto it because they had the power to override the veto. He was forced to do it. But even then. The implementation of them was feet-dragging at best in some of them. I believe still have yet to be implemented. He gave siding materials and javelin of that sort to Ukraine in order to fight Russian aggression. Yeah but Military analysts to look at that said that that was a no brainer that it was easy. The Russian military is massively. Powerful Ukraine has really very little power whatsoever that Arming the Ukrainians did not bolster their position. Militarily speaking against the Russians at all that it really wasn't much of an aide in that dead department that it was an easy one the Russians aren't scared of the Ukrainians having more javelin they're going to beat them anyway militarily speaking low shady. There is no amount of evidence you can present to Donald Trump. That would convince the Russians did best with our elections yet at the same time shows no those from own Donald Trump knows the rushes inefficient without election. Donald Trump. I mean if he he's in his position where he admits it that people are going to say how seat the Russians helped you win the election but from what the specialist telling me the Russia's China calls all counter chaos within our elections. Because THEY WANNA exactly. What's happening now so hat whether Hilary one? Donald Trump won. They wanted to cast doubt in the American people. Whether or not there with Jimmy. Now will they did they. They meddled in the election on behalf of Donald Trump and I always ask trump supporters. This I'm like. Why didn't think they did that? Do you think that they thought the election of Donald Trump would be good for America or good for Russia and it seems like a very obvious? Easy answer to me but Maybe you can shed some light on that Yes for. What bound is Dan. They were working both sides from what I understand. They would just sewing sees of chaos in our system and they knew maybe they knew that doing it with Donald Trump were cosmo chaos and division but there are sources that say that Hillary was they they would attack Hillary but it was also creatine fate trump things and putting it out there as well. They wanted us to be fighting each other. They want us to doubt the election and the lady said that in the Ukraine testimony that she understands why Donald Trump field the way he feels because people are saying that he stole the election with the help of the Russians. I mean is only a fun to be defensive. There's people in his own cabinet. That are leaking information. So of course he's GonNa had information from certain people in his cabinet. I mean nobody wanted. Donald Trump Elise didn't want donald trump. He's working under a situation where he don't even know he could trust the people his cabinet. What do you want the man to do it? Donald Trump may leave his tax returns. Start by releasing your tax returns. That's what I want to alter Maurice Eddie I'm for the Donald. Trump said he would release his tax forms if Donald trump releases a tax phone. I'll be happier. I wish that it was a law that he had to. But if he's not against the law at the end of the day there's no obligation for him to add. It made that law. I didn't make that rule. That's the people who came before him that you have to take that with but hold on this quick answer no quick quick. Yes or no if you would please. Does it bother you heavier? The Donald Trump thinks that a woman should go to prison for having an abortion. Is that by design bother you? Okay by the U. That Donald Trump does not want to fix the gun hole loophole. But you do WanNa fix it. It doesn't bother you that he's fine with leaving. The G- Loophole Open doesn't WANNA out. Most of the crimes committed are the result of the gun. Show loophole I most of these cases who get done. Get it from somebody in the family hearings a weapon. But how would you know if the gun hole loophole exists? That means you. Can you think everybody should who gets a gun? Should have a background check. Donald Trump disagrees with you. He's fine with people to get guns at gun shows without any record of it without a background check. That doesn't bother you that the leader of our country is okay with people. Having guns without background checks I better gun shows and every time that I bought a gun at a gun show. I did a background shit. Thou there may be people who are not running the background checks like this post to. They considered a gus McMahon man. If I live in Georgia I can just sell you my gun. I can just come to you. I can just come to your house and say three hundred dollars in handed to you. I don't have to know your name out of the right and only have to give you a receipt. It can just be cash. You can't do that in California. It's illegal if I want to sell a gun in California. I have to take it to a licensed dealer. They put it on consignment. They sell it to an individual in once they sell it. I get my percentage and they get cut for selling it but it's all registered through the state that's how you safely transfer a firearm but in Texas. It's not okay. Donald Trump should do that on a federal level. The reason I said no is because I'm not under the impression that the Mo the crimes that are being committed is because of the gun show loophole. You don't know they're heavier because of the less whole while not say yes but listen. That's what's keeping you in the dark on the facts though. The loophole is an unknowable thing. That's like saying are how can put this like it's like it's like saying that the people should be able to walk in banks with masks on and you like. I'm not convinced that that people wearing masks is what allows them to rob banks. How do we know if until we stop the anonymity? How do we know what's causing it? Because people who were robbing banks are wearing masks? We just don't know if we made them take them off. If only the bad guys are gonNA wear masks or not. The loophole is a mysterious sort of black hole where things can be done without any registration or background check. And that's a problem. We don't know where the guns are coming from. That's another thing. We don't know that the guns being sold they. I'm done with him man. I'm certain done Michael. Are you drunk? You good buddy. What's going on? I AM SOBER AS A CHURCH MOUSE. But unfortunately the power on the phone. I keep having to switch outlets between power headphones this point. I think it's funny at the Emily van that in because it's funny sound like he just passed out in the middle of our conversation Are Okay. I'm under the impression that let's say you close the gun show loophole. I just don't think it'll make a difference. Honestly I think people are GONNA get cars but if I mean is not one of the thing that that bothers me that much. I think I know how to get going. I I've seen the way people get guns. And there's no gun. Show loophole that we not getting the concerned about air people. Don't want buddy. I think that's where you're wrong. I think that the guns that you know that gangsters have access to come in originally through gun-ho loopholes without background checks without registration. And that's how they're able to get on the streets but listen if I had to buy my gun from a licensed dealer and my name was put on that serial number. I am not given that gun to eighty gangster about how much money they offer me. Okay but if I have a gun come through under the radar and I can transfer it anywhere. I want to and you offer me a thousand dollars for it. I might sell that to you. Because there's no record of me being caught so I think if we do close. The loopholes will reduce the gun violence period. If you registering weapons you reduce the amount of weapons. That could not saying. Gangsters are all. I'm saying a bunch of CRIPS and bloods are lining up at the gun. Shows to buy all their weapons your words but the dude who wants to sell the guns to them might get them at the at the gun store or at at the gun shows and then take them to the streets and sell them on the black market. That's the way it works. Well Okay and that's possible as I was just. It seems so obvious to me heavier. It's obviously with less restrictions. They're going to be more sales that the gun manufacturers the weapon manufacturers there make gang more money with less restrictions and they're the ones lobbying congress republicans in specific for less restrictions. You're not see the profit motive behind go lax gun laws that it is literally people making money off of the carnage that are trying to keep those laws loosey. Goosey because they make way more money more restrictive gun laws. Become the fewer guns they can sell and right now we have you know we know for fact that the the Mexican cartels come over the border into Texas and they buy all their guns there and and Russia back to Mexico that they make a Lotta money that they know is going to criminal enterprises. Let me let me ask you this. How did that work out with big law drugs? How did that work out with booze you Ban Blues? He said Gu's is illegal in America. How did that work out? How DID ACCOUNT FOR EVERY OTHER COUNTRY? That has gun laws. Hold on Javier of year heavier. That's a straw man buddy. Nobody's saying to nobody's saying the ban guns. You're right prohibition was bad hold on. Nobody's saying to ban guns. Man Prohibition was bad because they put a full stop on making production selling consumption. Everything and we rebelled and we want our rights back. You're right but you know what we do. You have to show an I D to buy alcohol. You can't drive around with four kegs in your car. There are certain amounts that you're not allowed to carry across county lines. They're SORTA mountains. You can't across the you can't go across sadie lines or state lines with you have to have a license to sell that alcohol. It is illegal for you to buy keg beer and then sell it to me. You can't do that without proper training and licensing that's all alcohol is registered maintained and regulated. That's all we're saying to do with guns. We're not saying to get rid of them. Were saying to regulate them just like alcohol. I wasn't acquainted with the ban while saying is restrictions are not as effective as you may think they are for example. I already thought of a loophole restrictions on the gun loophole. Let's say I go by all these guys that guy so and I put my staff on I registered get the background check and then to Marla and I put him in the trunk of My car. I'll just tell them to do that. I want to sell it to break into the car and still the guns I'll call. The police are reported Wa. I mean a lot of people get their goes by stealing from law abiding citizens who own guys legally well. The problem with that is I think there should also be laws for you. Not Having your guns properly secured so if you have one gun in a car and it gets stolen fine if you have seven. Ar Fifteen in your trunk. You don't. That's a problem okay. That should be illegal for you to drive around with seven. Aarp so you get arrested for having your shit stolen because you never supposed to have That many weapons that many high powered weapons in a in a vehicle. Okay so you put it in a shea this so you a gun one of us you keep your goals in the say just break into the state is still on. Their criminals are very very very very smart right restrictions. That you putting all what will they will find a way around him. I promise you they will reduce it. They will have here. But how is it that the police can identify a stolen car from a legitimately owned car? It's that registration it's the legal processes that we go through to make sure that we legally have the Karner paperwork is in order that when a cop pulls you over you can prove it your car and not a stolen car into by the way could steal your car and by the way you get to do that once you have a second break in of another a listen to me though. You have a second break in of another shed now. You're under investigation for supplying firearms to the cartel. Okay so it still reduces the amount heavier no matter which way you slice it but I was trying to get to a point here and I think you knew that which is why you derailed. Here's the here's the reality. You disagree with trump on abortion ultimately. You agree that it shouldn't happen but you disagree with him putting laws on it for women to go to prison. I think you you obviously disagree with the gun hole. Loophole trump is okay with that. You would like to see the the loophole fixed. He's not okay with that. You obviously understand that. Russia interfere with the elections. And and you believe the FBI the CIA Internal Intelligence Donald trump regardless of what. You might think he might believe secretly publicly stated he agrees with the dictator of Russia and disagrees with our own intelligence. Going against our own to me. It's treasonous behaviour agreeing with Russia. Our Own Intelligence. You also agree. That trump should excess could show his taxes like he said he would but he's refusing to do so that's only four things and I bet you I could list twenty more that you disagree with him on but you still gonNA vote for trump. So what would would take though? Okay what would it take? I think if Donald Trump refused to leave office if Donald Trump decided that he wanted to start a war unnecessary war. He did that he did that. He did with Iran. There was no imminent threat. Remember when he lied about that he struck the general he killed general of Iran and then said there was an imminent threat and when asked for evidence they couldn't propose it they couldn't show the evidence he just flat out lied. He killed the guy because he was a bad dude and did stuff a long time ago but there was no evidence of an imminent threat. He lied to us. He lied to you in the US military force I thought when they killed him he was actually with another head of a terrorist group. Does it matter? There was no plan to hurt him. There was no imminent threat to America. Donald Trump is not authorized to US congressional war power without Congressional approval. But he ordered. I ordered a strike On on An Iranian general without congressional approval. That's an act of war. He abused his power are. Yeah but everybody was cool when Obama did it. I mean when Obama deal what he did in Libya and other situations. I ain't nobody really cared. He didn't get approval from Congress to do that. I mean in addition result in a war. I mean if anything. It was called deterrence now. The war has started that I will say. Okay you miscalculated this whole situation. You know what you're doing but apparently he killed. Salamone. Iran didn't go to war will know they did strike us back. They they I. They struck back. We had a lot of soldiers very hurt with serious brain injuries and Donald Trump went on national television said. A few people got a couple of headaches. He completely downplayed. It denied the fact that these people were actually suffering in the hospital. Because he didn't WanNa look like he just got punked by Iran but he did so the only reason there's not a war is because his punk ass didn't retaliate for Iran bombing our our base. He punked out all spurts. They called US first because they didn't really to hurt nobody. It was just an act of strength shoulder. There people will limit me. Let me put it this way. Joe Biden is going to show his taxes. Joe Biden agrees with you on the laws of abortion and not locking women up for it. Joe Biden believes and acknowledges publicly that Russia is the one who attacked us. Joe Biden wants to close the gun hole. Loophole Joe Biden is more aligned with you then. Donald trump is what is job. Vana GONNA do about China. I can't solve all the problems today heavier. You said you don't want issue voter. I don't know his plan on. I Dunno his plan on China. It's probably the same plan that they had gone on before. Donald Trump showed up. China is kicking Curse yourself cake are asked. China got big based on Joe Biden is going to play ball with China and I just made a video about this. China is a big threat allowing think a lot of people will take the As it should be a lot of things that are doing I mean. Look at the whole corona virus and how they operated with thing is if anything. That's an act of war but lack. Look I'm willing to concede on Donald? Trump is a flaw human being. That has a lot of problems and look I will be willing to bobblehead donald trump given the right candidate that I was still like okay. This guy will put us in the right direction. Added allow the right to come along with him at date. You're not gonNA bring the right along with you with Joe Biden. I think it's going to cost more to visit in the long term of our country which I if we survived Donald Trump. The right will be satisfied. And he'll give you your eight years of Democrat like we always go back and I think you need a ride in heavier heavier. I'd vote for him. Yeah I'd vote for fear of your. Let's do this. I WanNa know your take because I just listed a bunch of things that I know you disagree with Donald Trump on I. One and we're going to wrap this up but I wanNA know your take on the confederate Myers This is really important because this is something that Donald trump is praising and not only as an atheist that only a someone who understands the history but as a black man in America. I WanNa know what that means to you when our president calls them beautiful historical monuments. I'm really curious. We're going to do that for the folks over at Patriots on heavier. You've been awesome. Michael Been Awesome We're going right now to patriots dot com slash David C smalley. Everybody else drive like you know each other.

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Where is Danielle and Elvis Makes 'End of Year' List

Elvis Duran and the Morning Show

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Where is Danielle and Elvis Makes 'End of Year' List

"This is your last chance to get a great holiday gift this decade but time is ticking. Luckily for you Dell Intel have a sale to end two thousand nineteen on a high note and kick off the new decade in style score new deals every weekday and save big on computers that redefine. What's possible with tencent Intel core processors? There's also deals on an amazing selection of the best electric's brands all with free shipping. If you get moving today you you can get great gifts under the tree and time call eight hundred buy Dell. That's eight hundred. Buy Dell or visit Dell Dot com slash holiday remember to look for Intel in the morning show is consistent ratings winners by Iran is Elvis Duran Duran and the morning shows in your show. Great Yard is popular Elvis Duran and the morning show. Let me tell you. People are such as just a little. But he's sprinkle outside and everyone's all slow and late to get to work almost wise seriously. Welcome to the day. It is Wednesday December eleventh. It is snowing all around the New York area except here in New York. City is it's slushing but then again if you're waking up in south Florida you're GonNa hit the eighties today and so we're very very jealous of you. I don't know Danielle is still on the road. It may be another hour before she gets here. You know why because people drive in this time. What are we gonNA GONNA do about that? Sit here and just watch him run late. I don't I said Daniel go home. You don't have to drive in his now. I'm GONNA find a way the tax you sound. You're here's Alex is an old granny low their Gandhi. How are you doing well high froggy? Good Morning Hi there producer Sam Landay high skinny this all right so for those who this is for Danielle long dedication just to our Daniel. It took hold the signs of that is hello all right. That's all you get. That was such a tease. Sorry about that is into it. Well Anyway we get on with the show got a day in day to do. We will start with our first caller caller day. At Samantha Samantha. Hi Good Morning. Good morning so wherever you're sitting right now. Is it going to be in the eighties. Sunni or is it going to be snow in the thirties which one well I am actually on my way to work I work in Brooklyn and I. I live on Long Island very slushy day. I'm in the middle of driving in the snow but I wanted to call because they wanted to reach out to everybody else that you know traveling in the snow and start off the day right. We'll keep people across the country that are you're listening to a perfectly clear road today like seriously if you're driving on ninety five in Miami right now you've got no problem other than the other on the highway are are those. It's snowing holes anyway. Also let's take it to Philly you know what in Philadelphia. Everyone's all excited. They don't care about the weather because tonight is Q.. Two Philadelphia's Jingle Ball. We're going to be there for that weather permitting so you know we're all pretty good but you are setting the pace for a very festive day cement. I can tell you ready to have a good day ready any get ready to go. I'm ready to go. I love what I do and I'm just excited to get going while you know what you just said something very interesting. I love what I do. Do How many people listening right now can actually honestly say they love what they do. If you don't there's there's no one who can change that other than you something to keep in mind. It is a tough one. It's not that easy always well Samantha. You are the first caller of the day. So we're getting send you an Elvis Duran morning. Show shirt it's on the way. Okay lovely can you please. Are you ready for me. We're going to ruin. It didn't look like a shirt. By the time you get Al God hold on Samantha around the room. We'll get started with you froggy what's on your mind line today. I know people who put up. Christmas lights can relate with what I'm about to say. I have this one string of lights on my house hung up. They were all burning last night. They're all out. I can't figure I were placed every bulb I've done everything humanly possible to get the string of life. Do yourself a favor take ninety nine cents during it off and replaces places. No because I tried to do that and the new lights I put up. They don't match the other lights. There are different shade of dissing me off. I don't understand why Christmas lights work. And they stop working. Why can't we make a light when you one comes out? They still say on lie. Here comes the season that drives drives us nuts right so in order to celebrate the season that drives us nuts. DRIVES US we put. We put up lights that drive us nuts right. It's like he does. It doesn't make sense. You can eliminate one of the things that drive you nuts by. I just eliminating the lights off your house and using one of those things that you put in the front yard this sheds led lights on your house looks on author have it and they're very Gandhi. What's up with you today? Oh man so. Yesterday it was a really dramatic time in the city where scary Sam Myself. Johnson Andrew Wheel half of our show lives in Jersey City New Jersey. Yes Sir Z.. City and we'll get into what happened but there was some really really bad stuff going on yesterday and I have never felt more love love in my life. My phone did not stop going off all day. Long people were calling the check and my mom was very worried when I moved to the city by myself that I wasn't going to have people to check on me and mom if if you're listening you're wrong don't worry. Everyone was checking including police officers. It was great. I know I was talking to you. Talk you hours to get back to me. I was trying to sleep but I did. I purposefully was like I'm I'm going to respond to everybody because in the situation did not respond. We'll be rude but I did respond. I'm glad you did. And what happened in Jersey City of course You heard it. You saw it on the news. If you didn't we'll get to the latest in that in just a second get into your horoscopes with producer. Sam Aren't producers anti now it's passive. Elimination choose me why it's always Gandhi or Daniel and there's a pattern here. Play hard to get with you so I'm coming tomorrow. Oh I I may not live well. Happy Birthday if you celebrate today you you celebrate with Hailee Steinfeld who's twenty three capricorn. Pay attention to those who value you and your company. Keep those people close and make sure that they feel loved as well your days eight. Aquarius various every day is a new chance to accomplish your goals and achieve your dreams. Keep that in mind and get things done your days a nine Pisces. You have a big heart with a lot of love to give so remember British. Show that love with those who deserve it. You're attend airy staying at home. Might Sound Nice. But don't ostracize your friends keep in contact with them. Even during your meantime your days seven Torres keep in mind that everyone is fighting their own battle on any given day treat people with equal amounts of respect and kindness days in eight Gemini. Traveling has always been a goal all of yours and now is the perfect time for a getaway. Don't second guess it. Just pack your bags. You're days a nine cancer. It can be difficult to move past a bad day. So don't be so hard on yourself if you are only human your days ten Leo. It's important to focus on your mental health and not push it aside human. Don't fear leaning on someone or going to a therapy session and I love this one Leo. You're days seven Q Furgado. Don't be afraid to be honest with those close to you. Your friends and family will appreciate you opening up to them your days nine libra with the new. Who you're around the corner? It's time to reconcile broken relationships. Remember that people can change so reach out to them. Your days attend Scorpio you need to be free in order to be your best I self. If people are holding you back cut them out of your life your days. Eight and Sagittarius. Keep in mind that you've overcome every obstacle that's been put in front of you. Thus far you are are a force to be reckoned with your day nine and those are your Wednesday morning horoscopes into the three things you need to know. Let's start in Jersey City New Jersey right in our own backyard. What's going on Gandhi confirming that sadly one police officer two suspects and three civilians are dead following a shooting a shooting in Jersey city yesterday several others including two officers and another civilian civilian are recovering from injuries? Detective Joseph Seals was shot with a high powered rifle at a local cemetery at which point the suspects reportedly fled and were holed up in a kosher supermarket. Four hours where this gun fight with. Police ensued neighbors later in the evening. Did turn off their lights in tribute to detective seals and there are lots of different Details developing hoping as the day goes on. We're GONNA fill you in when we have solids on exactly what's happening because we don't want to report anything that's not guaranteed to be accurate right now. This is a new thing for us. Yes the gunfights. It's yes as it happened down in south Florida days ago and then yesterday in our own backyard in Jersey City. These are things you usually see on old western movies right on like die hard movies. Just stuff that you're like that doesn't actually happen in real life and now it's happening in real life and it's happening in our backyard. Well terrifying you all right. What else is going on? Everyone loves to hate on the New England patriots and now they have another reason. It's spy gate part two so the team has is admitted to filming the sideline of the Cincinnati Bengals in Cleveland on Sunday. They're now saying that. The film was not used to gain any type of advantage on the upcoming game with Cincinnati. Bill you BETCHA. WHO's the head coach for? The Patriots says that he hasn't even seen it has staff hasn't viewed it but oops it was taken they're just gonNA use it for some in-house production with a web series. The NFL is looking into it so yet. Another reason to hate the Patriots. You already did and finally just for froggy and anyone who's gazillion air. Apparently Apple's new Mac pro can be yours. Did you see this foggy. No it's fifty thousand dollars. We who's one of those rights. If you want you can order it right now. We need with with that. Is that like heavy duty graphics and stuff. Yeah they're saying that it holds up to one point five terabytes of Ram. And if you want all the bells and whistles all the really cool stuff it comes with it will cost about fifty thousand dollars but if you have have a smaller budget the Mac pro the other one will just be six thousand dollars good. Oh that's it. I can't believe him he lets by three or four of them. Go ball out. Thank you very much all right. Let's have a Wednesday Levada. Okay this is Alicia keys. Bail with Elvis Elvis Duran and the morning show Zhang's. Some people can't leave the house without chapstick their phone headphones but for me. It's all about the hot sauce. Yup carrying my backpack and my hot sauces to Leila in their six unique flavors. Grab your favorite flavor of Soula. Look for a bottle with the wooden cap still waiting for Danielle to arrive. What's going on here in New York New Jersey area? We have a lot of snow brush and a water main break you know. I don't know if you're familiar with that area. But we have the George Washington bridge that massive bridge uptown that comes from Jersey. Were Daniel live to where we are and then it has to drive all the way down Manhattan and then turn left and here we are. I mean it's along drive yet. This is why I live an inch from work. There's water main break no problem I'll go down to Franklin street right anyway so She had to go find another. She had to go to a tunnel. She had to go find a tunnel to get into work. So I don't know it's a big fat for ems Dang island it is. We're living on an island yet. All the the bridges there was one morning where the Holland tunnel which is another way that we come in was actually closed and we had to go all the way around and find another place to go and I thought David How do I live on the other side of the island. You pick this one. Well I know I know. If you're going to be on the island on the island I now you know what I'm saying anyway. We are so excited. We're in philly tonight for Cubano to Jingle Ball presented my capital title one. It's our first jingle ball of the season and I if people ask us. How exciting is it to work jingle bells? Well you know it's it depends on which one uh-huh Jingle Ball is nice chill relaxed backstage is nice and quiet and and people are cool and oh pardon me no you go. I know you go first. I right here in New York. At Z one hundred jingle ball on Friday could the word. It's a hellhole backstage. And if you read my book there's a whole chapter devoted into why you don't want to go backstage at a concert right. And it's all laid out for you Friday night here in New York at Z. One hundred's Jingle Ball. I mean it's IT'S A. It's a Lotta work. Plus we we have interviews going on. You guys are interviewing right. Yeah we're interviewing all the artists and all the guests who were there who are of note and then that's used not only on our national regional radio broadcast but also were live on the CW. I'll tell you how to watch that later and also we use it on the iheartradio APP and I don't even know what they you do all that stuff and then I'm going to be teaming up with Good Morning America. They're going to be there. So I'll have to microphones. One has the Iheart logo on it and one has the Good Morning America logo on it. I'll I'll be talking to let's say communicable. Hey so you're excited to be jingle ball tonight. Oh yes I am and then we wrap it up and grabs a good morning. America microphone on their camera that I asked the same questions and they sound so confusing. It's I it is confusing by the end of the night. Momma needs a cocktail. I know what I'm saying that those things everybody thinks it's glamorous and you're like no trust me. We're getting pushed pulled yelled at. It's not glamorous at all it's fun like the first time you do it. It's really fun but then after that it's just kind of like oh I'm sorry the good news about it is. It goes by so fast. Because there's so much to do I mean it's nonstop but anyway if you WANNA watch z one hundred's or they're calling it the iheartradio Jingle Ball Friday night you can watch it live on the CW APP NCW TV DOT COM. All right it's the. CW THE WEAPONS CW TV DOT COM. That's Friday night seven six central on the CW APP NCW TV DOT COM. Oh well look just didn't come into work today. Yeah I look at the beyond this right about now. That's about how I'm feeling what's the first thing I told you you said Go. I go home and you know what so I must. I must thank you for your dedication. So how where. Where are you right now? Right now I am on West Fifty. He's six three on the west side highway trying to get across the bridge yeah wildest. GPS took me about eighty. But I Wahlberg. Reference is fully backed up and went on all right pages. Take your time. There is no hurry. We miss you. We miss you dearly but I yeah I just don't go to philly tonight so I have to get there anyway Nah I just don't want you to ever ever be concerned concerned or anxious about getting here to please big daddy. Oh you know what I'm saying. Come on you're my Daniel. You're our Daniel. We don't we don't want you to be out there. You're in enough in your in neck deep anyway. So don't worry worry about it. Okay Okay love you to get here when you get here. Just drive safe for once. Would you drive safe thing. She can't drive even which he stopped. She's he's more likely to have a wreck wreck of the rest of us. She's rector Karna parking lot multiple quality. I know she would just sit there and not even put it at take it out of Park Mark. Wahlberg is you'll cause an accident. Strangest thing all right sir. I'm running late producers. Sam What do you have okay. So this was a hard hitter for me. Comes from from listeners. Shelly McBride and to all parents listening with their kids out there this is a story about one of Santa's. Special Helpers. Okay so we need to worship a man in Ohio. His name is bill died early and in two thousand and two he decided to test out something called. Santa's hideaway hollow which is a huge base. He designed to look like the North Pole and and he sat in as Santa Claus and invited kids who are terminally ill to come and see him one little boy in particular kind of changed his life. He had a large scar in his head. Sat on Santa's lap and when Santa asked what he wanted for Christmas the voyages said Santa. You know I'm dying. Please just make my mother happy. So mom was there air. She was crying for literally. Every reason imaginable because like so many parents in that situation she just wanted one more beautiful memory to hold onto because for kids. There's just something about it Christmas. That was it. Bill was hooked and he's been doing it ever since he's seen over fifty thousand six children. The shop is open for these visitors six months at the year and he spends the rest of the year making hospital visits. Where's it again? This isn't Ohio Bill. You are the best person I've ever heard how I'm gonNA find it. Where in Ohio? What am I search for? I'm I'M GONNA I'M GONNA post up a link will posted on Elvis Duran instagram account story. Okay Elvis Duran or it was show. Yes Elvis Duran show show instagram story. Okay so thank you for Santa's hideaway hollow and if you have a story that deserves to be featured email me salmon Elvis Duran dot com subject. Line feels these these bands interview Lounge Nile Horn. Just good to be back because I'm sick of watching other people sitting to see if you sniff that smells of many people smell like Louis brought to you by Mercedes. Am G. P.. Prepared for whatever comes your way in the all new. Gt Four door coupe because life is a race visit. Is it your local dealership for a test drive today in the morning show. It is the season of anxiety. That's why you need tate's bake shop cookies. Does your find yourself like reaching for that bag for tate's bake cookies. In this time of year. They have the new limited edition holiday cookies in both hot chocolate flavor and toasted almond flavor. You know what I would love to. News Talk One toasted almond flavored cookie and one hunt chocolate flavored cookie. From Tate's bake shop at the same time. I think there's nothing stopping you from doing that. But we'll we'll start with a hot chocolate cookies they're unbelievable deliciously thin crispy with little marshmallows baked right in there. It's like sipping on a hot mug of hot chocolate chocolate. But it's not in the toasted almond. Let's talk about that. I love the taste of Almond knows that the taste of almond cookies and stuff taste nothing like eating. An nominee yet is slightly different. It's very common. I'd rather have these sweet toasted almond flavor of the Tate's Bake Shop Almond cookie than regular Rahman so let's face it these are limited addition flavors. They're GONNA go fast. Enjoy while you came over. The holidays look for the metallic Red Toasted Almond in the metallic green hot chocolate bags available. Now in your local Mukesh Tate's bake in the morning show waiting for Danielle L.. To drive up it is national have a Bagel day which is so perfect for us. I would love Bagel to. We have no BAGELS laying around. We've know bagels angles lane right and you don't want him laying around okay you you WANNA fresh rest bagel owner fresh bagel pesos. Sitting here doing some work During the song I see all you guys like going crazy in the other studio what are you GonNa do. Are You a part of the serial killers podcast. Is that what they're doing over there. No so what happens is look like Andrew and Scotty they go at each other about different things so I walked through today. I had to go to the bathroom and Andrew Stuck some some cereal in my face and said this smells bad right. This milk has gone bad so I can only sell the cereal so then I said I can't tell I need you to give me the actual milk by itself to make the determination that first of all you can't sniff an open wouldn't container of milk to see if it's spoiled because sometimes the spoilage smell is just on the cap what I'm saying. I don't know this one was pretty bad anyway. But you'll have maybe make this determination yourself. Here's the thing. I love the serial killers. podcast starring Scotty B and a of course Andrew. But you do get into a lot of fights. I mean it seems it shouldn't. It should be fun shouldn't it. But that's why it works because we hate each other but we love each other at the same time. It's not mutual. Sorry to say this. This milk is bad. Well it's got today's date on it. So it's it's on the verge of. I know what you shouldn't judge a milk by the date sometimes. It's just the milk doc. It didn't think you would want to go in your body when I smelled it. I was like nope. nope let's let's test it for the audience. The maple smell of the Eggo. Cereal was so overpowering powering. I don't smell the milk right so you have just by itself. Yeah so anyway. And and we don't have drainage systems here we don't have a sink so if you WanNa pour or liquid to pour it into a trash can what what what what did you hit this to meet for because this way you could smell it. It's bad oh I can tell it's Blinky I call it uh-huh Blinky Milk Day on it. Doesn't it shame smells blink. It's it's it's turning. I had a whole mouthful doc. Delicious Eggo Waffles. Cereal at my new favorite and then it just tastes I that taste and then he's yelling at me. It's not that bad. It's not that bad it. Is that bad right. You were witnessing was trying to walk through that and then getting told I need to judge whether it was pattern. Milk shouldn't have a flavor right. No it should not but I have a confession action to make sure that the other night lease asked me to make dinner and so one of the things that I had to cook for my son had milk in it and the milk that we had was out of date by four days and it smelled a little is a little iffy. But I wasn't eating so I cooked it anyway because I cooked it. Well let me tell you. Figured it'd be okay anyway the ask you what were you cooking. There were noodles noodles. Flavoring was in the noodles. Urban something okay. Urban Yeah I ate it and he was never sick. Somebody hey listen the cook something. It's like your double pasteurizing. Isn't it right in the kitchen. And boil milk. Then eat it with serial. Don't do that I'll L. Peso. Yeah so you know if we could get now we know when we eat dinner froggies. The food isn't always the fresh. Maybe if we could get a milk sponsor sponsor for the podcast. We could have fresh milk all the time but I keep buying this stuff. Then we'll have this problem down at Brooklyn Boys. podcast know all their food is nice and fresh taste like tomatoes comes to that hate each other and get into nonstop fights. I really thought you were talking about our podcast but it was actually the serial scary. Can you get away from me. Scary has an open sharpie. Market the marker a Sharpie Marker and. He's a he's using it in his hand like I don't know he's like like a baton like the leading an orchestra and is right next to my white sweatshirt. That is a dangerous combination their recipe for disaster. A really is anyway. The thing is that we already we have a podcast that made a name for being miserable. A whole we don't need another one. Serial killer should be fun. We'll try to be nicer. I'm sorry Casey s one question. Why did you move the Cup with the milk in it is because it smells bad smell? The milk is bad. Smell the way Serial killers on the way. But I do know that. The numbers are looking great for The Brooklyn Boys podcast. They were in the top ten of Iheart podcast number eleven this week cluster. Top Two thousand podcasts. That's unbelievable adulation. We were actually number one hundred thousand. So we're we're we're bookings. Thank you serial killers anything and everything about cereal breakfast cereal and it really is a fantastic concept and the Brooklyn Boys. They are who they are and they they do very well. Hey speaking of Brooklyn boys now. Can we get two door fixed. It's like every time it closes. Boom it close so hard. I just imagined it chopping. Someone's head off it. Could it could decapitate careful so I know that a believe it or not when you listen to the Brooklyn Boys podcast. It doesn't sound like much planning goes into it. But from time to time they do call each other and have discussions about that podcast and also brody and scary produced the show here which is the most important part of their job because without this they wouldn't have the podcast. Never lose sight of that fact. Yeah thank you so anyway they they also talked about gossip at work in and they're they're good friends scary brody so the other night scary. I believe at a holiday party three of them. He had three holiday parties in a day. He started a lunch with you and me Gandhi and we got scary a little tipsy Yup. We drank Tamarind Indians. Eating some great Indian food. And then you went onto the IHEART Radio Ping Pong Ping Pong holiday parties. That's right and then after you drank. Drank about. Four Vodka Sodas. Okay the and then you went onto the the the one guy who got promoted party after party so it was the leftovers from the company Holiday Party. And that's where we started to do so scariest there's this thing where he loves to call Brody from parties to rub it in your not here so what happened brody. Take it from here well. He called me Thursday night to talk about work stuff off and he was completely hammered and I was talking to him an answering his question and all of a sudden the phone went dead and then I heard this. He's asleep in the middle of a conversation scary. Sorry you may have sleep apnea have you done them at spring some. WD Forty down your whole before you go to sleep scary. You sound like I like that idea brody. I love that. You're just sitting there listening to it and recording his thing I had a little bit. I can't hear you what I had. Eleven wanting to go ahead. Eleven minutes to record him so I ran upstairs. Got Backup phone powered it up and held my backup phone up to my main phone while he was still snoring. I can't believe you in the the middle of a conversation. He has left you all right so your favorites nor is here. Now let me hear this. Okay Okay I always talk on the phone on laying on my back in my bed so the phone was on my chest and legit fell asleep and Gary Okay. This is explained to set this up after ten minutes later. Okay you've been sleeping ten minutes. Are you drunk fabric dude. You fell asleep like I don't know ten minutes ago so I've just been waiting for you to wake back up over here. How much did you drink a lot? Dude I saw some things. Can I cannot believe what kinds of cheap and tawdry going John Scary for you drop into here scary center. The Utah tried to cover to cover here. Yeah can't listen scary. Hey scary you okay. You've been sleeping in the last ten minutes I really I. I thought to say this. We are all Guilty of this where we we're starting to doze off on the phone and then you Walter Sudden. Pretend like you weren't sleeping. I was guilty of that when I was in high school. I I would talk to friends late at night and fall asleep on the phone. I do it all the time. Do still boyfriend all the time and he'll just scream into the phone and I do it in the afternoon. If I'm napping and somebody somebody calls me in the middle of the afternoon like three o'clock in the afternoon and I go there like I'm sorry. Okay no no. I wasn't sleeping. It's like you do that to me all the time by the way. But why why do I cover for sleep. My favorite thing is no. I wasn't asleep. I'd I had to get up to answer the phone anyway. It's it's really funny because of Alexander on the phone with each other and he's not at the House that night I'll just say hey man I'm tired I gotta go to bed. Just hang up Whatever they will tell you? There's nothing worse than having sex with someone in the middle of ear this doing wake up. I'm trying to please you along. Tell me what to do. Am I doing it wrong. The couple of noises. It sounded like it was coming out of both ends. I know you when you're sleeping. I oh I think he may have sleep apnea and everyone is texting in that. I gotta get checked. You can go to bed with that. Big C-PAP asleep at machine. Good Morning Nick. Good morning they got us so excited. I listen to you guys every morning works. I didn't listen to so wait. Nick you snore the same way and you actually did one of those. Those those sleep labs were they you go to a hospital in sleep and they they monitor your every sound and movement no so actually you can download it. It's an out Apple sort and it records like snippets of US sleeping is called the APP called on any this scary. It's called SNORE lab. I you could buy you got it for free but I actually opt for the eight dollar version so I could hear my entire night's sleep. Yeah if you download the SNORE LAB APP whatever it is in you. Don't pay for it. You get the ADS and so in the middle of your sleeping. Wakes you up and gives you an ad for McDonald's. Ah what did you discover when you use this sleep APP Basically sounds the same. Like it's just burgling like awkward noise when you're sleeping it's almost like farting noise aliens. We don't sound like human beings. Yeah I think honestly I might have sleep apnea but I'm not really sure I mean I could obviously take the doctor but you never know tell you what before I had had my surgery for my my stomach weight loss thing. What is it called the this leave the gastric sleeve? They wanted to make sure I didn't have sleep apnea because they put you under and they don't like to put people under who have sleep apnea or whatever so I had to go to a Columbia hospital way uptown nick and they said Okay just sleep in this uncomfortable battle night. Hooked up to all these tubes in these wires. We're going to see how your normal night's sleep is. There's nothing normal. There's nothing normal about what you're doing so sure enough and I know I didn't sleep five five seconds at night. They woke me up this morning. Mr Dran you've got sleep apnea is it no. You don't know I didn't sleep. Well what is it with. You know it sounds crazy when you listen back to it. It's like Oh my God what was like dealing till you went once. I got rid of all that weight. I didn't do it again. The only time I snore is when I drink which is every night but do you you. It gives you actually options like if you go to beverly or if you're eating late at night so like those are all the factors that causing to sleep louder. The thing is is when you sleep with someone who snores like that. We've Alex will do this. You've got a shot up. I got sleep. And you'll just push him or kick him under control or are you still snoring away. starring away. All right good. I got I listen to you every single day. I'm a little kid. I have been trying to get through for the longest time. You've literally you guys. You have no idea I wanNA get through to talk talk about your sleep in your snoring problem nick sleeping last night the get up and get out of get thanks for listening to us. Be careful out there bad weather guys. Thank you so much thank you yeah. They're scary so I'm not living my best sleep. Oh His table trying to trying to get they So Daniels not here yet because of snarled traffic right. She's not me a photo of what she's looking at bumpers. She'll be handled with it but she's She would have on the Daniel report here. But you're going to fill in but you know you don't have to okay if we need it next hour. She's not here by that. And I gotcha. I'll make it for one more. Hour Walkers and talkers podcast for walking dead bands. No you can't say anything stopping three caps the latest news and interviews with members of the cast hosted by David Roading and his co host. Jamie Walkers and talkers. Listen on the iheartradio APP. Elvis obvious durant in the morning. Show if you're like me and you like a little naughty crazy phone with your friends go get to tell us After Dark Board Game we love playing this this game. You will to buy it today at target bed bath and beyond Barnes and noble or wherever you buy Board Games Daniel has been on the road for what two hours now maybe longer. She's still in traffic. It's just awful. I told her on the speakerphone. I said Hey we're GONNA have to mark this day. That's why she's desperately is really trying to get in here. Even if it's five minutes accounts she took off like a rocket gear back. She can be so crabby in the morning. Have you noticed that about her. Never uh-huh Anyway. We got a text from Paul a second ago. I'm so glad we could catch up with you. Paul how you doing today you good. I'm doing great how about yourself. I'm doing very well in your text. I thought was so unique and so so interesting. I had to see if you wouldn't mind talking about it on the road. You don't mind do you. I don't at all so Paul lives in Rochester. New Hampshire is that correct that is correct and I next week. You're flying to Florida. Tell everyone why. You're flying to Florida next week. Paul so I've been on for about hold on on the phone is the phone's messed up. Say Okay Start Overdo it again. So I've been on a journey for about six years now to find my family. Ed Alpo A year ago I didn't ancestors DNA and they'll find them In about two or three months ago with my biological sister so the next week I'm flying down to me and my dad and sister and Their whole families. Wow now do you know any background about how you you were separated from. Your biological family now have ended up in New Hampshire. And they're in Florida. Yeah I do I My mom violence that Were worth things for a while and And then they kind of just went separate ways and I my mom ended up keeping me and he ended up moving to Florida. I never really had any contact contact with them. I I knew my my dad with my step dad at the time and adopted in third grade but I didn't really know my biological family. And my dad got passed away in two thousand ten and ever since then I've been kind of on the journey to find out who my my biological family was. Wow that's cool. Are you in all terrified that they're in Florida. I'm not terrified that their Florida. I'm just terrified to meet different emotions and whatnot now. Have you seen pictures of them. Have you you so you said you've talked to your biological sister had long discussions about you her history and diseases and afflictions and all that stuff. We we haven't really you don T too much. You travel the diseases or anything but I have seen pictures. I have seen them. I love quotes Father do resemble each other a little bit. Yeah you can see some resemblance so He is living in Florida or no. He is looking at that for four years. Now I said hey you know now's the time I need. Hey so I'm assuming that you've known that you Your your father was your your. Your father was your stepfather all these years and you knew you had a biologic while they're out there. I mean since you were a kid right correct. I've known pretty much all my life and at what point in your ipod you decide. I really need to meet the rest of my biological the family. Two Thousand Eleven Year after my dad passed away I just there was some some kind of empty void emptiness and I was just like you know I really want to find my other half my family not just up just because I want to meet them. I need to Nelson History. I'm getting older and you know some medical history and whatnot and So I've made my girlfriend at the time WHO's now. My wife started this journey back in two thousand fourteen to kind of try. You know what. Let's let's let's do this and addresses. I wrote some letters that came back deliverable filing ancestry did it for a last year. was there any any pushback from your your biological family of today's say. Wow now I don't know it. It's funny because I found my cousin in January wary and then I message my She gave me a bunch of names. So I just message everyone facebook and That was in January and back in October. My Fuck thought my biological sister finally message back. I was like hey. I'm so sorry I'm just seeing this message and we've been corrected then also sounds like they were anxious to meet you now. What about your mother? But was she. He was what was her advice to you. Before you decided to fly down to Florida and see your family she her. My aunt Everyone of my family every one one hundred percents supporters. They've been on this journey for a while now and They absolutely one hundred. Percents can just assume that there are some families that would not be supportive supportive right because maybe of some bad blood between dad and mom and whatever but that's so cool you must be so anxious yet so excited lighted at the same time next week. You're you're meeting your father your biological i. It's really funny. How we always thought that were biological? And they're just no confusion reason. Is there anything. Is there anything that you're anticipating or you're really curious about it or I don't know the whole story Ori Like I just. I'm just curious about who he is. I mean he I know he's not GonNa be completely complicit there because he he has had cancer four years but treatments everything. He's not getting any better by just the the whole I've missed thirty four years of the side of the family so I just I'm curious really truly get to know them and so your father knows his days are numbered definitely right correct so right. Imagine his point of view from his point of view he gets to meet finally for thirty four years. Here's this this son. He's never met before. This must be. This must be a you know. This is a great gift. Not only for you Paul. But for your father you know really wonderful one of the greatest. It is Christmas gifts. I I've been able to receive but you're giving as well. That's so incredible. Look at all the best to you. What a great story and it sounds? It already. Sounds like it has a great great strata. Happy Happy Chapter of moving forward and good for you in be careful. They are Florida people. Care Florida Yeah. What part of Florida? The Saint Petersburg good all the best. You and congratulations relations. Thank you very much all right. Thank you other scary snoring again. We need a special special fan fan. The Lord Highness. Danielle has decided to join us. It's a frustrating Australia. Things stuck in traffic right now. You're stuck in traffic for what to our hours. I don't know people do this every day. God bless all of you. Let me tell you something. It is not easy You know there has to be a point. And I've learned that three times I've been in traffic in my entire life. All three of them there has to be a point where you just submit inches given and just understand stands. There's nothing you can do and we were doing everything we can't. We could here to tell you. Just relax very about it. I tried to listen to some other shows. But we're the best side Noah Woah. Last night I was I was in traffic and it said on. GPS one point nine miles away. That's all I was away. Forty seven minutes. I'm like I could get walk fast. It's crazy unbelievable. Get your stuff together over there. Let's get going. We're running me. Get into the three things we Gandhi. What's going on another horrific scene unfolding joining yesterday this time? In our own backyards it happened in Jersey City New Jersey when detective Joseph Seals was shot and killed with a high power rifle at a local cemetery at which point two suspects reportedly fled and were holed up a kosher supermarket four hours when a gun fight with police ensued. Police are confirming that the police officer and three civilians are dead. Two two suspects beckstead as well. Several others still recovering from injuries and yesterday neighbors turned off their Christmas lights in tribute to detective seals really really sad situation president trump signing executive order today that will now interpret Judaism as a nationality. Not just a religion officials say that the order would allow the trump administration to do more to combat anti Israel sentiments and. There are a lot of mixed feelings on this one in this room in this room. Yes and I warn you advance. This last story is gross. So if you are eating your food for just a second I think it affects our man's scary. A man in Thailand poldi thirty two foot long tapeworm out of his rectum on Monday. There's video and I showed scary here and I wish you guys could have seen his face. He was like well. HOW DO I? How porn because you eat morning noon and night only gained like seventy pounds? Ha I wanNA see the tapeworm coming out of a man's anus. What do I do well? It's not coming out of his name is but I'll see if our girl but the video joe is not showing it coming out of his anus showing after it's sitting on a plane a next next three things they can't believe I'm talking. Well it's an honor to have you here Elvis Duran and the morning show by the way SARS interrupting song. I just. I'm so proud of the station. Just had to say the name there you hey our about to get into the one thousand dollar gravity blankets a free money phone tap. Danielle did make it. Yes I am here. You know you missed out on your first annual report of the day. I hope you have one brewing. I do I have one. I have one brewing. There is one story in there. I find interesting which is so strange. It is a very strange. It's very very cool though which cool. But it's odd. Yeah so you know it's the it's the end of the year and they come out with all the lists like the top ten this the top ten that the biggest in so they came out with the most googled phrases and items on Google searched based on Google search for two thousand nineteen and so in the category of weddings Could if he could I read the top eight. Yeah do you know who they all are. Yeah I've got him. Do you know who they are though. Never WHO's number five I've never heard of Yeah I don't know who that is Rivera Geese Rivera. She's a big singer. Okay so this. Is the top ten weddings wedding searches on Google. This year. Yeah so number one is Miranda Lambert number twos. Who's Jennifer Lawrence then? Comes Justin Bieber Miley. Cyrus number five is who said had he say he keeps Rivera. Thank you number six Chris Pratt number seven Joe Jonas Jonas number eight Elvis Nets. We're never nine Zoe. Kravitz Bowl and Jake Paul number. Ten You J. Paul at Louise married to her anymore is he. I don't think it was ever legal and then I married someone else right after. There just seems like an open marriage but she didn't know Paul People. Yes all right after Joe Jonas. Yeah that's pretty cool. You're behind Joe Jonas. You've dreamed of that. You don't know all the way round. They told us they told us the other day that. Hey you made this list. I'm like Oh that's no no way. I think it's awesome. No then you start thinking how come everyone so curious wasn't willing to go look at that we gave you enough information. Why you gotta be poking around my business? I have no desire to ever get married when when I know other people are getting married. I always look for the pictures I love seeing wedding pictures. They are beautiful because we had a beautiful people beautiful time. So what other list would you like okay. So Gandhi in the top. Ten of the most searched whatever Ogle what list would that be. What would it be best moms? Yeah like the nicest person or something like that. You'll end up on a list of the ten best moms was on that list. Yes we did. We talked about this last year. You were on yeah. That's nice. Imagine being on that at. Ub On that. You'll be on that. I would take like best personality. Awesome right now listen it is sad it is okay. We lost listener to go there. He's going to get them back. I'm so tired I'm so tired of Tassell. People are just being jerks. Didn't matter matter goodbye. I don't want to do the phone tap I quit. Let's do the Daniel Report. I'm kidding must not use this. You've lost a listener all goodbye. Hold the door. I didn't hit you in the ASS on the way for those of us who are still here. I love you seriously. You're back at it. That's obviously I didn't they said and not only that. What they said is not what you said right? It was what I said right but but even what they texted is not what we said exactly. It's like they did. They even got that wrong people in life and I know we're being baked people in life here but they want to hear yesterday. We had a listener saying while I was listening to your production where it says. Hey the song ends it goes. Hey Elvis in the morning show then you have listeners going. Hey listen every morning show. I can't believe leave. You don't have you only have white girls talking when you do your on the street interviews about your show. I'm like I we do we do. And here's my question. What do you want black girls to sound like which I find so insulting when people say things like that to Brown girls lacquer to whomever people say things like that to me? Oh My god you sound like a white girl. What does that mean? What does it what he does have an issue okay? So here's diamond. Okay first first of all we have Gandhi. WHO's a brown girl High Brown diamond? who was a black girl? Yes hi I'm sorry. You sound very white I love uh hold on. What's that I love? Elvis Duran how does that sound white black warning. Don't sound black enough you don't tell blackish Hey what are you gonNa do this purse okay. So here so this person was calling us out as being racist. Yeah because the girls sound white right. Isn't that racist us with his own. Gay Do you should. It's the same thing. How do you do that? They want you to sound. Like some stereotypical thing. Yeah then they won't be. Hey Stereotypical Gaga God. Oh my table you sound very Kuni Gandhi. Yeah to speak with an Indiana. Where's where's the one? Okay let's do it long. It's just when you say something. Think about what you're saying. Yeah yeah whereas the dumbest thing I've ever heard my life and this is what we do with every Indian girl speak on Good Morning Gandhi. Welcome to the sound like your heritage. Show let's talk about news pills that make everyone feel better. Aw Come on. You don't sounding blackish want me to say it's an insult. Yeah insult and I'm sorry ridiculous. I'm sorry to be the idiot. Old White Guy to call in the Brown and the girl to talk about. I think that people really need to take a step back and think about what they're saying. Thank you for they say things like that and what it actually means. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Horrible accused me of being racist right through your racism. You you don't ask I'll work on my accent for you guys. I mean brody better Indian accent brody. I'm going to teach you how to sound like an Indian accent fix to have every single person before they speak identify what they are before they speak. Continue that way everybody will be happy the tough check from the Bronx. What the last British right so get? So insulted went years a non Brit Doing Brit accent in like a commercial. He's like because they're terrorists so many of us al-Qaeda why the hell can't they use a real British person I like. Why are people like pretending that they're British so it's so it's crazy people get upset about it and what you know agree? I get random messages talking about how I'm dating being a white guy. He's not a white guy and when I say what he's mixed with people right back that's still white. I'm like what are you talking about. Japanese is not quite what I don't understand it. People always got something. Yeah I feel like nobody is anything like pure all mixed of everything. This is one of the okay. I was thinking about this here tonight when I was really like superstar packers you know. Our House is filled with sugar skulls. Because it's all about the day of the dead. Our wedding was based on that. And we all love the sugar goal thing so I had the sugar skull sitting in my In on my coffee table and I'm just thinking. Wow now that's a real person because you don't see the skin you don't see anything. Think of than just a skull this goal which we all have we all this skull represents all of us. Where's the cheesecake? That's a great thought. Anyway so I guess we've gone on and on but I'm just saying I just want you to know that if you're wondering what are the things you don't like about your job it seeing the reality and people how you play all those random voices from the streets saying they love your show throw a white. You're such a joy. I mean the notion that people who are not white have have to have an accident of some sort is absurd to me of Sirte. Well look you know. Maybe I've gone to four you. You haven't all right. Let's move on. Let's do a free. You got any money girl talk about gravity blanket. They make sure to talk. Really Brown Brown sound go ahead grabbed him. Lincoln's contractor. Okay if you don't have a gravity blinks definitely try one so gravity blankets are weighted blankets. 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What your way back to Randy Elvis durant phone tap? I love this phone tap. I shouldn't even say anything. I should just let you. Listen to it and judge for yourself. My father-in-law is a practical joker. Got Me really really bad on April Fools Day so I want to get him back very badly a few weeks ago he was having a problem with the wild skunk. He sprayed the skunk with a high-powered host to chase him off and eventually they had to call the police to come and kill the skunk. The whole neighborhood got involved. Would you please call as the owner of the skunk and bust on him for killing in your pet skunk. Thank you from Deborah. All right Dave Brody decided to take the challenge. Ready Brody here we go the skunk phone. Hello Hello is Larry. There says peppy. Oh yeah that's me. Yeah Hi this is him. Listen the JIG is up. Excuse me you heard me. I know what you did and I'm not GonNa let you get away with it. WHO's this WHO's this Pepi? I don't know anybody about animal peppy. Well you you know what your neighbor told me what you did. What are you talking about? What am I I love? You Act like you know. I don't know I don't know what you're talking crap a month and a half half ago my pet skunk ran away and I've been trying desperately to find out what happened to him and I put signs up all the neighborhood a reward. Nobody responded to me until Marissa's called me up and she told me that you killed my skunk do that. Listen happy my God God. I would never do that. You're going to deny you kill my skull. Her you're inhuman. Listen I call the police. They told me you kill my style. I could you listen to me carefully. I listen I listen peppy. Can you listened to carefully listen to me. I'm listening skunk. What's on my yard okay? Let me explain to you what happened. Tell me why you killed. He was acting while Shakespeare. Rabi it was is walking around in circles. I taught him to do that. Well I didn't know that I called the police. The first time that he was in my yard Dan then he winds up in Orissa's yard. Okay at what point did you kill him. I didn't kill. What did you do? Larry I didn't killing. The roundup of police killed them now. You're blaming the cops comfortable. The ones who came over here I spoke to the cops. They said you shot my skunk with a hose. I did you shot my stuck with a hose. I did not sir did you shoot my skunk I. I wanted him to try to get them out of the water. It's not a flower. I don't know what to do. My property acting Russian. Oh I don't know that I well. I don't know that well other animals have you killed. Come on Gimme a break anybody. Why didn't you save my skunk that out Oklahoma Paparella going around with Rabi? And didn't you see the signs up all of the neighbouring only. Not I believe if I would have seen signs along the neighborhood. It had an hi de tag and a collar. Let me out to look. What did it police who who is shooting would water you or the cops ops him to get him off my God you look? I don't want to discuss this Marissa's says you killed my skunk. Maruta listen to me after. Do you host my skunk. The skunk was all wet and autopsy. Showed that you blinded skunk. The Scott wanted into the lake and drowned. You heard me the house because you get out of here. The Cook was shuttered. Look I don't Wanna discuss anymore anymore. Okay I'm in the process right now. I'm going to call the police but because this is a harassment. Okay do me a favor if you can just tell me you're sorry for killing my skunk Elvis. Then I'll forgive you. aww drop the whole thing no no absolutely not. There's nothing to forgive because I did not kill your skunk. What would you at least admit that you had a hand in the death of my skunk? Absolutely not Sir. I the Go-to Guy I took just and I gotTA model my property. That's all I did say. Excuse me I'm police or the ones who shot okay. You're skunk and former is a matter of fact I wanNA have a frequent conversations today. Okay you want apologize for hosing. Elvis the skunk. Well let me tell. There's something you should apologize to your stock for him how he get away from you. He's allowed to go out in the backyard. Backyard man look look. Don't talk to me guy. Okay listen to me. You WanNa have a discussion with me common front on my face. Okay how the discussion with me. Okay we'll talk to. You're going to the police on the way home. I just filed a harassment charge against whoever. It is calling me. Okay well you you daughter-in-law plant phone tap on you. Excuse you make. This is daybreak Melissa in the morning show. Is there anything you want to say. Door and Debbie. It wasn't he great. That was a way way way back Wednesday phone tap from a long time ago I watered discount. He was such a cool guy anyway. 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You you know that was awesome. Do that catch someone doing something right today. You caught scary looking good today. Can I give him a moment that I loved him a lot today. Please do when and he was very angry earlier and he was screaming with a mouthful of food every expert he was enraged when people upset him he eats more. He's mad because people are triggered by things we say on our show and then he was triggered to eat more dollars not mad at people in the room. Now I do the same thing scary when I'm triggered eight. I remember for my mother. When she was triggered? She cried on one time. My mother looked at me. She said you're the reason mommy cries. She curses take my parents. Let's look I want to tell a double decker Daniel Story. Tell a big story here. In New York City an Philly Yankees in the Yankees and the phillies. Our Didi Gregorius. Yep is Lou moving from the the Yankees to the Philly. Yeah my favorite player on the Yankees and love data and so You're kind of excited because you're actually going to go out and buy Phillies Jersey. So the here's what I'm thinking. So American League is my Yankees and I'm thinking I could ever National League team. Why not so I got to get a DVD gregorious? The phillies Jersey will. Yeah because I actually wanted to wear it tonight to Wa to Philly Jingle Ball at the battle be cool that would be. They don't have them yet. You mentioned it on startup take on stage so yeah so I'm I'm excited. They'll they'll take good care of my Daddy. Mets fans hate you right now. But that's okay because the mets like the Red Sox like the sworn enemy of the Yankee fans and the phillies of the sworn enemy of the mets Danielle serving two of our most important cities. I love that exciting and the other deck is because of the. DD GREGORIA story. They came out yesterday. Danielle reached for her phone to call her dad. Because the Yankee conversation is what Daniel and her father always used to have tough because the first person I call always his his dad to say. Oh my gosh. Can you believe this. Can you believe that. And he knows how much I love deedee and he was my favorite so I called his best friend Uncle Pete Who We've known and since I was baby they've been best friends for years? Also keeping also Yankee Fan and one of my like my dad's best friend in the whole world and I talked uncle pd and he got me through it and he he said I really appreciate you being on the one that you're gonNA call for this now and I said Yeah I said you're so love Yongle. Thank you for being there and Dad. I know you're looking down on and Take care of my DVD from up above. Hey Dad your daughter Mrs you very much really do but your friend Uncle Pete. I cannot tell you how I assume he felt when phone call from you. I've had it made because he he. He lost his best friend. Mrs My dad's so much a wonderful thing you did for him they actually they have like guys night out so like last night guys night out with all the guy's dad wasn't there and they were all drinking to him and stuff and he said it was. It was tough but But yeah you know. What are you GONNA do unfold? You know what you're going to. You're going to do exactly what you are doing. You're doing great Daniel. Were so proud of you. And then there's Gandhi I got nothing I got nothing. People are living with me. No we didn't learn a lesson in fried foods are usually only good after you pull them out of the friar an hour or two later so our favorite Indian restaurant Tamarind so Gandhi and scary night bellied up to the bar for lunch there the other day and one of the dishes they have which is just I from Heaven Daniel. You would love this. It's a fried call like flight fried cauliflower pieces but it's coated in this beautiful sauce. I have it right here did you. Did you hear. The sauce is unbelievable so I brought it in. I ordered. Tamarind delivered it to my house last night and I had it and it was great. It wasn't even great by the time I got to my the house. Actually it was already kind of brought it in today. You're going to taste the flavor but you're not gonNA feel the crunch. I think we have ways to bring back the cash. We'll do it notice. You have have the rice though and rice from Indian restaurants Danielle so good. I can't wait. Also got some Pioneer Yum in a spicy little bean in Greek sauces. Greek vinegary whatever. Who else can we better known about? FROGGY I was talking about froggy so what I do so okay. Here's the thing thing. So froggy says Hey Leeson are coming up this weekend. Yeah so great he said what. Are you doing Saturday as I don't know nothing. Let's have okay. We're having brush then. I had to call my friend Andy Eddie in his wife and Andy sister coming into town and said okay well. Let's have brunch. Okay well. I remember Leeson froggy. Let's get together all right. So there's three of them wanted me. That's four to them. That's six then. Focuses would up per se. What from we're in Saturday but we did tell Danielle and sheldon that we're doing something with him that's great we're up to two? AP trying to find a Brunch for people in New York City. It's it's difficult compound a place down the street. I'm excited having and I did happen to fall asleep between making reservations Elvis Midtech hey jackass. It's eight people could did you give me an answer. Okay so then. This is the after one hundred. Jingle Ball froggy yeah so tired one of I said Alex. You're going to work work Saturday right. Oh No took the day off as a one reptile. Mets come spend the night Friday night after the young to fifty four to ten people brunch. So yes if you don't mind is coming to town this weekend and I would love for you guys to meet her. Maybe it'll be a good time restaurant. Yeah I don't even know if this plays what's scary going to be sold on Saturday morning and I get up nice and early to crack down. I can just roll into the city. The diamond you coming in is going to be there brody breakdown vegetables would hate it. Talk talk about it later. We may be a capacity but keep in mind those who just kind of grew on. Its own so this this is going to get a call from people. Why did you invite me? What the anyone? I didn't invite anyone just morphed into this thing. Well last time I saw Andy Right Andy Stewart. Who's from Norwegian yet? He I said I'm coming in on this date. Great let's get together for dinner. So then froggy leases that they were coming in so I call them at least and I said hey andy wanted to. Do you want to do so then yesterday. He's at all in Elvis's into Holi. Yeah everybody else. So He's so I'm so now you're saying I'm in on your lunch. You're in my life the work down merging. We're we're all together. That's all worlds collide. I can't wait sheldon so excited to save a couple. I guess what we have an agenda at lunch. What's that we have to talk Daniels Husbands Sheldon indicating her Peleton? Talk like she wants one says No. He's not sold but Andy Stewart loves his politics bike. All my friends who spent the money for Peleton they have never ahead a more expensive clothes hangers. We'll start with you Danielle. What's on your mind? Okay so I'm going to post something on my instagram and a few minutes Mike. CATT dingy uses uses her hands to eat now her paws. Why she so you put the food in her bowl? She puts her paw in the ball and she scoops the food food and licks it. We couldn't believe what we took video of this yesterday. She's becoming more human as the days. Go on animals and it's crazy so I doesn't sound crazy to me. That sounds like you have a very smart posted on my Instagram I. We could not believe that she's the queen of the castle. That damn cat. I swear to God the dream that you guys got had a population scary. What's up with you? Who is the famous person who said catch someone doing something right? You always talk about that. But whoever that Spain was person was that was Dale Carnegie Tale Carnegie. Well I'd like to shine a light on this place called South Fork Bakery and Sag Harbor New York on Long Island and they're a nonprofit and they provide provide meaningful employment for adults with special needs. So I got package in the mail from someone who gave me a Christmas present and all the goods in there were baked and they were packaged and sold by these adults. Who Work there so I want to support more businesses? That do that in the coming year. Excellent and you ate every crumb well not you know I'm gonNA share. Here's some with the show. The only food from that wonderful place. You'RE GONNA share with us. The stuff that comes out of your mouth when you're talking and it's so. Let's hear for South Fork Bakery and Sag Harbor Beautiful Love that nonprofit providing incredible incredible employment for incredible incredible adults with special needs that South Bakrie Producer Sam producer. Sam What's on your mind today so we had yesterday always makes me super reflective because as you know I live in Jersey City and we lost a police officer and I have a sister who has decided to spend the rest of her life with a police officer so days like that make me very appreciative. Restrictive and worried like a Jewish mother for Joseph Genteel who is a detective in Monroe Township. But I want him to know I love him very much and I am appreciative of everyone out there. Who's like him and the people like my sister who keep them with a partnership and support in love at home? I must assume when you get up you put on the badge you put the you put the uniform on and leave the house. Whoever is back in the bed or back at the house getting ready for their job? They're thinking about you and they are just as much a part of the force as you are. It's this this gentleman had five five kids and we're not even we haven't even started talking about the identification of the other people who lost their lives. The other five. Yeah Joseph I love you and I'm always thinking about. Are you your sweetheart. Gandhi high. I also posted a video on my instagram. That is making me laugh so if you need a minute today to you just go chuckle a bit. It's only six seconds. I promised at the end of it. If you're not laughing I find something wrong with what is it. It's video posted on my instagram. Six seconds it's one of my friends at a party this weekend. And she's dancing and I turned the camera just coincidentally to another friend. Who was watching her and his face is out of control that? Oh you're in Philly last weekend over the weekend excellent. It is a funny video what happened. It will spark toy cakes. WHO's excited? It was so weird weird so you did scary. Just whisper in your ear scary. Had a question he ran over to ask it and he'd like Slavs the breakfast so we're good. Killing memories are really bad here. I don't even know who you people. This is the time of year. I don't know about you listening to your to his right now but this time of year where we're just like full throttle it's been it's been pretty much full throttle for about two years now. We need a break. Mama's teats are tough. Yeah they really are. They're like lever mine too. Leather got left. Cowan will be known as leather. T's uh-huh leather seats of other faiths. I'm getting that anyway. Let's get into the Three things we need to know. A lot oddest serious stuff going on and once again. Yesterday I was glued to local news here in New York because of the story breaking out of Jersey City not only because I half of our show lives in Jersey City eh but I used to live there. We used to work there and of course it involves police officers and involves people listen to our show every day. They're out there so ooh keeping an eye on it in. They still don't have all the answers now. They barely have any now. It's there are I mean depending on which news sources you're looking at there are different stories about exactly what happened the facts that we do know for sure are that sadly detective Joseph Joseph Seals was shot and killed with a high powered rifle at a local cemetery after that happened. The suspects suspects fled to Abo- data where they hold up for hours and a gunfight ensued with police at the end three civilians were dead the two suspects debt as well and of course that officer that we talked about so as we get more information. We'll share it with you. I'm sure people are seeing things from all over the all over the place but we're thinking about that area and these kids were in lockdown until late in the afternoon but they were listening to the gunshots classrooms terrifying. I cannot even imagine so. Our hearts are with everybody who was affected by that New Zealand. We talked about this the the other day. There was a huge eruption of volcano over there and there was a tourist group that was torn around that area. When it happened well people were severely burned and now New Zealand is ordering being a hundred and eighty six thousand square inches of skin from the United States because all these people need skin graphs and the have enough? Wow thirty people. In critical condition in six people confirmed dead and again that was after a volcano erupted in New Zealand. And finally the last full moon of the decade happening tomorrow. It's twelve twelve and it's going to be happening the best viewing time at twelve twelve. Am Eastern time coincidence. We'll be awake. Yeah we will be. We'll be up late we philly Lee and Cubano twos jingle ball tonight and then here New York City for Z One hundred's jingle ball presented capital by the way. You can watch that Friday night. We're GONNA GONNA be there on the CW APP and CW TV DOT COM. I do believe is that right. That's guest I'm totally fried yes. CW W. tv.com in the CW. EPO got it right. That's good I found a little corner in my brain that had memories everything there. What's up with that? Was the back all right. Let's take a break. We'll be back. This is Wendy William. What's up y'all ambiance as drake and you're listening to Elvis Duran Duran and the morning? I've always loved hot sauce but now with Chiluba in my life I love it even more. It's filled with unique flavor in just enough heat. What's not to like so grab your bottle of Chula? The one with the wooden cap. I have no idea what I'm getting any win for Christmas. No no idea Peleton go get one I just want quality time. Yes you stop I I can get her her what she wants to get you what you want. A peleton is so much easier than quality time. Time is the one thing we never get back. That's can you give it to me. I just want to have lunch with you on Saturday. That's it we're having lunch on Saturday you know. We're having our holiday party Christmas party Monday at lunch. Yeah in an undisclosed place great. But we've invited special guests. Every year we invite special guests and we have special guest coming this year. breakside percents Greg. T will be included in that nice of course so last night I was sitting there. The fire in the fireplace push the button came on. I love that some people such purist. No I must hear the crackling. The would I must have the real fire burning on the. We're now just push-button at the gas through the work anyways sitting there just kinda shaking like a Chihuahua knowing today was done and just wondering once again how to try to relieve a little little this stress. I'm thinking why should I go take a hot bath. Ooh those are good with bubbles especially. Yeah so I thought about that. Oh so I'm going to get onto the gravity blanket and just kinda Chill Chill Watch TV. I was flipping around. Found a ellen show last night our special where. She was giving away all of the prizes to deserving people. What's it called again? Ellen Ma I I don't even remember. But she has Jennifer Aniston on with her Jason. Momoa Jennifer innocent seems to be such a lovely person didn't cj Simone earlier in the. It was on the bathroom. Shall you might have been that. He was scheduled to be on the show. I didn't see him. It's Ellen's greatest night of giveaway. Okay it was very cool and that Ellen Ellen has great sponsors the come through and really really step up to the plate to help per award these great prizes and cash giveaway continuing it on a regular regular show like this week so I noticed yesterday that somebody gets Robert Downey junior in a box we would like a little stock in. You could get Danielle and then you know what if we could. Just stop thinking about what we need to think about. What other people you asked what we wanted? Okay look our show is nowhere near I mean the shoot shoot and of the Ellen Degeneres show. We don't have resources like that but we could give away some fun thing. Thanks so I'm thinking next week. We're here Monday through Friday right. Yes well Melinda Thursday. We're not hearing Thursday money Thursday. We're here Friday. A scary Giri. Scary series is trying to get a day off off off on that show for Friday. Because what are you talking about on Franken. Okay we're really off off base here okay. Back onto the track. We do five shows next week. I WanNa give away like a really a cool gift every day next week. Oh that's awesome. That would be great so fun. We'll pay for it. It's out of our pocket. I say our I me mine the shot for that unless you guys want to chip in I'll tip thinking about what these oh these gifts can be. Is it going to be Peleton. No okay no it it it. It can't be rolling machine away yesterday. You know what I'm saying. I don't have that kind of budget. We can come up with some good stuff. Think about it so next week every day. Let's say thirty minutes after the phone tap so it'd be eight o'clock East Coast time. It went over time that first phone tap doc plays thirty minutes after that everyday next week. We're giving away a juicy glamorous prize you WanNa text in some ideas. Let us know the hottest gadgets out this year. Whatever whatever thing not an experience if you can find an experience That's doable. What scary one year? We gave away Gumbo. Yeah that was quite a year now. That was the company that gives them to us for Christmas and remember coming in and they said Merry Christmas handed me a Gobble Win Greg Gateway ipads but they were just I. Patch is no. We're we're not GONNA do your report the Daniel Report. What's going on all right? Say It isn't so Jack Black retiring I swear to God. I'll cry so so apparently. Yeah the rumor is that after gemology the next level comes out and he does his promotion for it Bobo. He might not do anything for a while. He may take a little bit of a break. Can you imagine that now. He's GonNa be nice if we could take a break not going to happen. But what you're doing right now in your life. What do you like to take a break We'll take a break. We kind of figured this already. Just beal reportedly encouraged Justin Timberlake to apologize publicly publicly for holding another woman's Hanson. uh-huh embarrassing wanted him to be accountable. I don't blame her. That happened to me. I do the same thing that you're going to get out there. And they're doing okay. I hope so too Liz So does not care about the criticism for that but bearing outfits. She wore at the Lakers game. I don't know if you saw it. She was working in a Thong. I saw it She basically says she's the happiest she's ever been. I'm surrounded by love and I just want to spread the love and also spread these cheeks. And she did she. Did you look the video. She's spreading those cheeks. We have sound from Liz. Oh talking about it coming up in the south of Garrett very nice and I'm kind of on the fence about it I do because I have kids and I know if my kids are watching the Lakers game in that comes up on the screen or if you're in the audience I feel about it. I'm a little torn and I love Gliso so I just get really uncomfortable when people are wearing anything that's too short because you don't think like button holes on seats. Yeah and it happens all the time when wearing those booty shorts. I'm like Hey yea court I'm all for it okay. Absolutely you're GonNa wear that outfit. Jingle Ball Kevin Hart remember. He had all that controversy over doing the Oscars and stuff. He didn't do it last year. Well he said if they came back to him this year he would consider doing it. We'll see if that happens Jumanji is opening in theaters on Friday. And I will remind you every five minutes if I could because it's so fantastic The best thing is on tonight. I know it was on yesterday yesterday. But the top. Three of revealed as two more masks get removed as a holiday theme semifinal special. That's going on tonight. You've got an interview with Dan. Rather Ellen's greatest this night of giveaways all this is tonight then not this afternoon driver. Downey junior he's on the gas so he robert the junior. Is The celebrity helping Ellen handout presence tonight. Oh Oh my gosh. I hope that they can record that for me at home. And tell them the mid season finale of Riverdale is on tonight. So that's good midseason finale of stumped town the mid season finale of making it Crank yankers that's on Comedy Central and a twenty third season and finale of South Park. Twenty third I love that show neck crazy anyway Next hour we're GONNA talk about Brad Pitt's hits. Don't listen to everything you hear about his love life. Speaking the Brad Pitt. So on so I watched half of once upon a time in Hollywood Italy and then I was going to finish it and then Costa boy. Josh ran in here and said new. Watch it all at one time. Okay otherwise it just isn't as good and so I mean okay. So last night I decided to watch the whole thing and I truly enjoyed it. Great Brad Pitt. Unbelievable I I thought to Caprio did a great job. I thought they all fantastic job. I Brad Brad Pitt. Get some Oscar recognition. Because he really is. He's so good in Soga all his movies that I really haven't seen Brad Pitt movie that I haven't like have you seen once upon a time in Hollywood absolutely so what I in my opinion of work of are known. Only because the story's stories really interesting and it's interesting twists in this and that but the the period The sixties right. Yeah I think so that they covered in Los Los Angeles working in Hollywood in the entertainment business. They actually had K. H. J. Radio always playing on the radio with the real deejays Robert W Morgan and they play play the music of the time. It was so well done of course all wrapped around The Charlie Charlie Manson story somewhat so watch the whole thing last night and I was I. I truly enjoyed it but it's I hear this is one of those movies. That so polarizing by the you love it or you hate it. I love it or hate it but Quentin Tarantino. We usually his his movies are so far out there. This one wasn't that far out. There is great. I Love Quentin Tarantino movies. This was a little bit different. But that Brad Pitt Man. He here's this fine old man. He's hot I found Brad Ev. I've never found. He's not my type. Brad Pitt Oh I do final man. Yeah I go back to those Thelma and Louise Days the Thelma and Louise Searching. Look at look at what it looked like they. I remember I saw it. He was holding hairdryer with his shirt off. He's he's more. He's better handsome than he was cute. He was cute. He's now what are you laughing at frog. No you go back to Thelma and Louise like you. You exactly which Brad Pitt you were like so there was another one who is a river runs through it or one of those movies as my sister. I love that I love that movie. So in North Carolina employees boys at a bed bath and beyond discovered an uninvited sleepover guest hiding in the storm and the opened up Monday morning the Greenville North Carolina employees called police eight during the morning and they responded to a breaking and entering and progress. The problem was there was no breaking and entering in progress. He was already there. The intruder was a fourteen year old runaway. who had been camping out in the store overnight? Oh a great spot. If you're going to need a place asleep bath and beyond. He wasn't harmed. He was taken back back to his house. He's okay so it got me to thinking I remember when I was a kid and go to the mall. Yeah what would be like to be locked in the small myself. Access says to every single thing in this whole thing like down there at the piano store I could play piano for a while and over. Here's the orange. Julius remember those aren't you they. As long as Julia crank up those Orange Julius machines but what store would you want to live in Miami living. Would you rather live in like bed bath beyond homegoods. I- Kia where do you wanna live. Oh maybe target by like a super target. That has the food. Yeah in microwave ovens like a forever store. I think a pet store play with. Okay keep your living there though you need. You need to live there. Where is your living room? You know what I'm saying. Where are you going to live some of those palaces? They have our spacious. Okay get in their trail. That's your gym uh-huh Dr Dolittle. All the animals we talk. It'd be three. I think we're missing. There's gotTa be some store. We're not thinking what's so excellent to live. What about like bookstore on all the different massagers has over? There ought to be a store that we have access to food In or takeout. What what about a costco You could do that Yeah Garrett what no go for you okay. BJ's and they have ovens everything maybe we should think you'd be more. Yeah on a on a grander scale. Idea is good too because you would never get bored. You could build all of their things and they also have the meatballs yet. She'd never get tired of those meatballs. Yeah and you could play hide and seek and all the little rex core. BJ's I love a good all night BJ all night. Chafing seems exhausting. What what are you talking about? Nothing I think target I really do because tyrod superstar has all kinds of fun stuff clothes and sporting workout. You could read a book you watch TV. Go play some video games you can go and eat you can. There's a lot of things to do. You can shop in Little Boys Department. Because like because that's where she sean can what about like dicks shop there every kid this sporting goods place where you can climb a wall play some basketball. Ask Ball but there's no food and erected if you're GONNA if you WANNA go sporting goods go ARA or do they have those across the country. Yeah all of Rei. Because they have all. I think that if you go to a Dick's you can have lots of Sunflower sheets because they have all those different flavors. Because that's the only thing that's got a lot to eat addicts. They have survival food moving on. What would you would you live at? We're GONNA move on because you guys are trying to turn this into something. I didn't mean for it to be pat store and if everyone in this room I have the dirtiest most filthiest mind. But I've learned to squelch it and try to have a conversation. I haven't learned that. Yeh It was meant dicks of the sore. I really did. You can't froggy in I in Romans eight and not expect something come on. You know. It's find out which to build everything but imagine the skills you would have came out of there. You don't want okay an Allen wrench master another wrench. I knew wouldn't be bored because you'd always have something to put together. You Learn Swedish at Creighton Creighton. Barrel be comfortable all right moving on. How's your holiday card list going there? Daniel I don't I don't I don't send out the cards. We just make them appear. Yeah well but my my against my husband honestly. He's so good he does some stuff. He's such a good egg so You know Tom Tom. Kelly who he writes for our show is a good friend of ours any he came to the wedding and Santa Fe. Well Anyway I got back Mary back in September and we even said. Please don't send US wedding gifts and there are several reasons number one. We have more stuff than we'll ever need. Secondly that means I forgot to thank you and I'll tell you why they're there are a a lot of people who gave us things in somewhere down the line. The person in charge of keeping up with all that stuff separated the cards and the gifts. Eric's I don't know who gave what I don't know who to thank boy so anyway so I got to my desk this morning. And there's a card there to Alex and Elvis from Tom Kelly. I haven't opened it yet and Dad's pay. He donated adapt doc days. He donated days paid my charity. So I'm about to find out what he makes in a day. Keep someone wanted my desk and grab that card. Run someone anyone here. So I think he's really tacky that I'm not able to say thank you to people who gave me gifts and I got a lot of great stuff. I don't know who to think. I don't know what I don't even know where to get started with this thing. You've got Gandhi and I got you. Yes it was from us. I hope that the card is with it. Hi Tom Kelly. Hello Elvis how are you. I'm doing great Sir so okay so were you here yesterday. Hey how did this card ended up on my desk. I would in okay. Can you go to a better cell area you. I'm crying I'm trying to get a good spot okay. Are you at home no. I'm in front of an audience and Good Morning America. So how are you good morning. AMERICA'S IS GONNA be backstage with us at a Z. One Hundred Jingle Ball Friday night tickets. Okay so when did you drop this card off at my desk so I pick up your desk yesterday at two PM. And you're saying that once opened his I will know what a day's pay for your donating fighting this too Of course the born this way foundation this. That's where we wanted officer. I'm not giving you the exact amount but I donate a day's pay to born this way foundation. Yes yes well no. I'm kind of curious to know. Check in here dear Elvis and LX. Thank you both for your kindness Elvis and radio. Alex Zoo your wedding was a life. Experience remembered forever new friends and Old Andrew Gift donated a day's pay to the born this way foundation. I actually sat down and calculated. I know how many you know I work for IHEART. And you're you were instrumental and get me a job and in honor of you donated one day's pay to a college that matter to you. The long way I was going to say act fifty bucks goes a long way for these dollars. All are three eighty. That's what my daddy used to say. Very sweet thank you very much. Well you've been very sweet to me all you guys. Having Tim Mhm Crop Year and I are very grateful tee off let me ask you questions so is it okay for me to live on the say thank you and now I don't know him a thank you card I think so or if is it okay to text next. Thank you does that work. Oh you know what my intent was. The only reason I gave you the card was to get a thank you card from you and out. Hey by the way. I heard that you went to Your Holiday Party yesterday at the office. Yes can you tell. Can you talk about the sandwich ratio ratio problem okay. There were ten percent vegans in the room and fifty percent vegan sandwiches offered to the party. Some hippie hippie up there dominated the whole event waiting to be fair I mean you eat meat obviously but you can also eat vegetarian. Terry Freidan sandwiches you pay for. It was wettest with Mayo Paprika. That was the only Christmas party I've ever ordered out food for. Do you know I don't know who. And the best part is. There was one hippie. There's One lady who I don't know and I'm probably she's probably sure she's my boss. He'll be fired after this but she looked like she came from the year. Nineteen sixty three and she's walking around telling everybody is we have taken option. No no no no just started a hold on to characterize someone who's Vegan as as a Hippie I mean I don't know there are a lot of people who are Vegan who don't fit that stereotype. Daniel Fox's kids go to an all Vegan school and it's there so into the animal rights things that they have even if a bug. It's accidentally stepped on. They have a funeral for the buck hall. Yeah like that every time. You eat an animal to Tastier I. I feel guilty every time if God wants us to be vegetarian you we're not have made animals out of meat and Dr Scrape Darn Straight Alright. Tam Hey thank you thank the George Stephanopoulos calling. I gotta go very busy very busy at the today. Show bigger name online to you. Yeah no not really. Oh no offense get into sound Garrett. Hey Gary Hey all right good morning. Let's start with this Charlie. Last night was on the tonight. Show did some musical impressions and he did his song. We don't talk anymore as the DOOBIE brothers. I don't know what the DOOBIE brothers sound like. You've heard the I you have most people. have it your well around well right yes I am Eddie for old people like Daniel. She knows what the IT knocker earlier leather blizzard leather teats. Speaking of love. Charlie puja as you know we are getting it forward with Pepsi. A lot of people are so into this. This gift that Charlie poof gave us. Now we're gifting it forward to you round trip air transportation to go meet up with Charlie booth at his Studio Watch him whip up a private music session as he writes writes music in front of you which is just unreal. Lau He'll let you leave with an electronic keyboard a high processing MAC computer and a microphone just like he uses when he produces music. Also we're giving this forward to you thanks to Pepsi. If you WANNA win it you have to post on social media. HASHTAG gifted forward Hashtag Elvis Pepsi sweepstakes and tag our show at Elvis Duran. Show all the info at Elvis Duran Dot Com. Imagine you win a grammy The gadget the deadline is this morning at ten o'clock East Coast this time. Yes all right. Neo was on with a little late with lily sing and she asked. Have you ever had sex to your own. Music now normally is by request. I don't the moment our discussion that happens before tapping both ways honestly before we have sex. Can we put on one onto your songs. Show all right. 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And you're listening to Elvis Duran Duran and the morning show telestrator after dark. Danielle love love it. So it's a dirty game but it's is not always dirty. My Gosh. It's dirty when we play as challenge ourselves and try to play at once. We're not dirty. Can't we should bring it on the bus with us today when we travel and keep ourselves taint so it's the best late night four-game out there. You WanNa laugh with your friends. This is definitely the way to do it because we crack up laughing when we play it. It's just like the telephone game. You played as a kid but adult sketches and guesses and outcomes are usually wrong by the end of it. It's like what the heck did you draw. But Anyway it's fun. They do have after different televisions game for younger people. This is not the one for the kids. Don't put this under the tweet for your six year old niece. This is not the one doing this for grandma though she might get a kick. You know Go today to target bed. Bath and beyond Barnes and nobre wherever you board game board game all my Gosh Board Games or old after dark the fund memories will be loves. Please welcome to live in the Mercedes. Benz Interview Lounge. Gosh I'm so excited to introduce you. Don McPherson arison Don McPherson got used to be an all he was an all America quarterback Syracuse University he went on to play professionally in. NFL and up in Canada and he began his work on gender based violence prevention a long time ago like back in nineteen ninety. Four Donkin to see you so you coming in live live man. You're you're you're falling into snake bit as the snakes are a twist and turn this. Is Daniel Minero from sister Moya taster Gandhi. He's got a radio Voice of the face for radio to see when you say John a young when you're when you're saying that you're implying that were ugly. Got Your beautiful people screw. You just wanted. The interview is okay. If I say something that isn't quite on target and feel free to create me as you will of the years of late especially we've been Hashtag me too movement we've been talking about gender equality elevating people up to at the very least where they need to have a foundation where they have an equal chance to live and be treated equally in this world. You started diving into this in the early nineties. Yeah and so you have a perspective from back then and you've seen it changed from then to now gender equality right so has it changed that much. Are we on the right path or is it getting worse in your opinion on the right path. It just hasn't changed fast enough. I think that I always say that like twenty years ago if I was talking to a group of men for an hour and and forty five minutes trying to explain to them. That is a problem. Now I don't have to explain the problem. We know it's there. We'll they've been told there's a problem. Do they believe there's a problem. Yes they do they you do and part of the reason why what what me too did was. A lot of men felt indicted a lot of benefit Blaine. That's fine with a lot of them. Also felt was failure failure failure to protect the women in alive that they care about the her. The mothers sisters daughters thing. Yeah this happened to me too. So for the first time wasn't a woman on a poster poster on a PSA it was a woman in their lives. And it's over. The I meant heard their failure to protect the women that the while never thought of that part. What makes this important to you like? Why did this become what you wanted to be part of partially because of what I just said like when I was twenty nine years old as chapter in my book title Twenty Nine Because I was twenty nine years old when I first learned about the issue of men's violence against the other part was that I've been doing work around grand social issues that will always about drugs alcohol? All things that you do to yourself this was an issue or something that you do to somebody else that really made me feel like an because masculinity and men were the were were the perpetrators I was this iconic guides iconic man as a football player and so I had to debunk a lot of the myths about masculinity that will leading to violence against women. So I don McPherson here. He is a book called. You throw like a girl the blind spot of masculinity which I think I could write a book. You throw like a girl because I was I always told I throw like a girl. I in hindsight I sh- I should have said thank you strong. I know when you talk about some of the toxic traits of masculinity. What is it that you think are the biggest perpetrators right now of toxic? Masculinity what do you think are some of the things that are are being put out there it causing people to feel this way. I don't like the term toxic masculinity because it doesn't allow men Elaine to come to the compensation anchor in toxic Mescaline indicts. It's been male. We've conflated the violence and all the bad parts of of what happens with men and violence against women. We've conflicted that with being male and that's that's not true and we also ignore the continuum of masculinity right right. It's a very broad understanding what it means to be a man and so I don't like the term Masculinity because it narrows men to this violent misogynistic identity which is what we are not right because you can still be very masculine and be a great great person that is not holding women down lifting them of growth so a okay by the book is out. It's it's brand new book right yes. September Denver in house how. I rewrote it twenty years ago. Really yes team but things have changed since then have they. Not Yes they have. In twenty years ago I wrote I was on Oprah and I was. I was listening to this story. This is awesome because I was so ready for this to be an oprah show talking about violence against women and told her about the book Mitchell she gave me the naval publisher. Got Back here to New York. Call the guy. He called me back immediately. Because of course I named dropped Oprah and within a day. The book was on its way within a week he rejected it. And what did he. What he said was essentially and by the way the letter the rejection? Linda is in my book now and what he said was the people who need this book. Don't buy books and the people who buy books. Don't need your book in in other words. Women don't need you telling them that violence against women is a real thing and this is why it happens and men who bought. Who are the problem? Don't buy books. And I found that to be so sexist against men it is a dumb ass has read books all the time. Thank you get out of there but we really exactly so that was like I was offended by that notion that men don't care when I was writing about the last chapter is is titled. Be Your Son's father not your father's son. In other words we have to be better than fathers and the whole point of the book was. How do we help men navigate this thing that we've never been taught this thing we never discussed in? What does it mean to be a whole loving caring man and there? You Go Tom Ferris in his book is called you throw like a girl the blind spot of masculinity. We gotta take a break more coming up right after writes researching during breaks after this. I love you every day. Thank you from us. This is Elvis durant in the morning. Show breath Elvis Duran in the morning show tonight. WE'LL BE ON STAGE AT Z. Q One O. Two's jingle ball presented by capital one in Philadelphia Elsia and of course Z. One hundred's jingle ball at the garden. This Friday you can listen to it. Watch it live on CRTV DOT com or on the CW APP this Friday but anyway another thing about Don McPherson our guest. He was a quarterback for the eagles. So look another connection to Philly yeah also Syracuse. He's university. You were the quarterback there and why I major major awarded quarterback. Come on your little. You'll last night was the College Football Hall of Fame Dinner uptown. And I was there for that. And it's my eleventh year. Go into that dinner in I'm a college football geek. So it was awesome to be in that room with the new class. That's a whole famous. There's something about Syracuse students. I mean we've alley gold over here. We have smiling. Stephen who's producing us in Philly and David Katz my business partner not my sexual partner time. Let's get back to work because we were having a great conversation. Adam will agree Adams listening to us up in Connecticut. Adam how you doing how you doing very well so Dobbin Pherson has a book out called you throw like a girl the blind spot of masculinity and of course Danielle at Adam Daniel ask Don y again just in a nutshell. Why did you feel this book was so important for us to have on the market today? Because because I think there is a a real need for compensation with young men in particular we we talk about violence because when we talk about the impact on on women and girls We're we're not talking about the impact on men and boys and so there needs to be a robust conversation about what's going on with men. When you think about all the different issues that are going on that relate to suicide L. in depression and mental health issues that men are now a part of that conversation and this becomes around preventing mounts against women and men's health are simple same conversation so adam what is what is it about our conversation with Donald Struck? A nerve with you well. I think that there's a lot of young guys out there that are also You know we we start talking about You Know Violence Against Women in the metoo movement and a lot of guys take it. Is You know attack on them And that's not what it is. It's a we're just trying to support you. Know regular human beings women our lives and try to help them out and This message that people need to understand that this. This is the thing that's happening all the time. It is hard to accomplish this but I tell you though I want you to pick this book. Pick up this book. Is it sound like something you need to read and learn more about yeah. I'm pretty young guy. I like to read books but This sounds like a pretty interesting thing that come a little bit more knowledgeable on you. Don't think that adamant re- Represents a lot more men out there then then we know talk about it. And so when I went on Oprah many years ago when I wrote this book I had a publisher. Tell me that essentially men don't care about this issue and I patently disagree. I think it's patently false with at present. Ah The notion that men don't care about talking about being better fathers about exploring masculinity in a very broadway I would Adam is saying is there are a lot of men out there who don't feel attack they feel what can I do. What am I supposed to do? What are we supposed to do because they were part of a me too is not just felt failure but we also couldn't do that thing that was supposed do as men we couldn't go beat the crap out of somebody because this happened to my daughter on my on my wife or my girlfriend years ago? So you're stuck so you stuck. What do you do in the next part? All of this comes Asia for minutes. What do we do? How do we growth passed this narrow way in which we we've been raised Adam? Thank you for your call. Go pick it up. It's called you throw like a girl by Dan. mcphee Don McPherson. Okay thank you. Thank you very much. Thanks for spending time with us all right. So let's talk to Daniel. WHO's the mother of two boys? What ten and fourteen? YEP head on fourteen go Let's do this. Why is it important for either? Maybe my husband to read the book or my. Maybe maybe my fourteen year old to read the book you know. We often hear the term Micro aggressions when it comes to the workplace and when it comes to how How many women and and LGBTQ and and and folks interact all the little subtle things that we do that offend and we do that two boys constantly one or the other the authors on the imprint published on comic books books is a former NFL player? Who talked about suicide because he was he thought when he finished playing football that no one would care or no like him or love him because he was gay and it was all the things he heard every single day the homophobic? That was telling him. If you're not a real tough hard nose football player guy. Then you don't matter to the point that you don't you shouldn't be alive and those kinds of things that boys every that's why the title you throw like a girl matters because it is the language that we hear boys from a very early as true either a real man or you don't matter and so it's so important for men to have this conversation. So they know how to talk to their sons in a way that does not diminish who their sons are butt lifts them up to behold loving caring people as well as being tough little boys. Because we'RE GONNA be we're going to be a little knuckleheads anyway by giving them also to be loving and caring the same time nice so for people who are maybe processing this idea for the first time because it's a big idea right and there are a lot of different areas that could be changed. What would be your jumping off off point or your one piece of advice for people who say I wanNA make a difference? Where do I start starts with the conversation and and and it's hard to your point? I don't think the concept is hard. I think people know no it I think men know instinctively. I'm not living my homeless. I'm not living on his life because of not fully expressing who I am in my office I think men know that part and so the the difficult part is how do you start the conversation. I said twenty years ago I had to explain to me and there's a problem now it's like okay. How do we talk about this and I always tell people get comfortable comfortable with the uncomfortable conversation? And that's we have to do if you're raising a child. I'm assuming the only child I have his SCHNAUZER. I'm good down there. He's cool. Oh Oh yeah I mean It's actually a redirection parenting. I must assume a the bottom line and don actually said this stop raising a whole really. I mean it it says it straight to the point. You teach your kids not to be jerks. Don't ignore the fact that they could become one right and what masculinity does what. The culture is that we validate that. I mean we I mean we have got a guy in the White House Brag about sexual right so we validate that we'll and and we say that that's a real man and that's and that's a problem for so many young people so many young men who are in what I referred to in the book is the performance of Masculinity. They're they've really sweet good people. The problem is that performing something that is antithetical to who they really are and then performing this notion of masculinity is being uncaring unfeeling unfeeling insensitive and impervious to pain in all those things become the toxicity of masculinity an area and one more line. Before you leave yeah sex teach about so miniature and which one of my favorite sewer were many years ago conference. I heard a woman say that we tell kids sexist dirty immoral. It's going to cause unwanted pregnancies all these horrible things but say for the one you love. Yeah Okay so the new book is called you throw like a girl the blind spot of masculinity very important dial a very important conversation and uncomfortable conversations are actually actually sometimes challenging to the point where they're fun. When you know that you're having a great conversation could move all of us forward and I think you've really started at thank you with fierce? And by by the way he wanted me done he's going to be in our stomping ground Huntington Long Island at Book Review. This is where I met on the night. We were out there doing a book signing and we went up to see told tone. We had great Mexican food and Margaritas. And then we slithered on over to book review in Huntington Long. On what time are you there tonight seven. PM seven o'clock tonight. Meet Don McPherson thank you. I think we'll be back after this. I recently worked with the mixologist on some killer Bloody Mary recipes and there was a game changer revolve. That game changer was to Lula hot sauce. I was so shocked and surprised by the awesome flavor. It had kick it had heat to Lula added everything to this morning drinks. So go out and get your own to Lula the bottles with the wooden cap randy. Elvis Duran phone tap. I love this phone tap. I shouldn't even say anything. I should just let you listen to it. Adjust for yourself. My father in law is a practical joker. Got Me really bad on April Fools Day so I wanNA get him back very badly. A few two weeks ago he was having a problem with the wild skunk. He sprayed the skunk with a high powered host to chase him off and eventually they had to call the police to come and kill the skunk. The whole neighborhood got involved. Would you please call as the owner of the skunk and bust on him for killing your pet skunk. Thank you from Deborah all right areas Dave Brody decided to take the challenge challenge. You Ready Brody every go. The skunk phone. Hello Hello is Larry. There was it peppy. Oh yeah that's me hi. This is him. Listen the Jig is up at me. You heard me. I know what you did and I'm not GonNa let you get away with it. WHO's this WHO's this Pepi? I don't know anybody about animal peppy. Y Your neighbor told me what you did. What are you talking about? What am I I I love that you act like you don't know I don't know I don't know what you're talking you don't know crap a month and a half ago? My pet skunk ran away and I've been trying desperately to find that what happened to them and put signs up all the neighborhood rewarded. Nobody responded to me until Marissa called me up and she told me that you killed by skunk do that. Listen happy my God. I would never do that. You're going to deny you kill my skull her. You're in human. Listen I call the police. They told me I did. Listen can you listen to me carefully. I listen peppy can you listen to Kathleen. Yeah you're listening. I'm listening skunk. What's on my yard? Okay let me explain to you what happened. Tell me why he she killed. He was acting while Shakespeare Rabi. It was walking around in circles. I taught him to do that. Well I do not that I. I called the Rama Police. The first time that he was in my yard Dan. He wind up in Orissa's yard. Okay and what point you kill him. I didn't kill what did you do. Larry killing police killed them now. You're blaming the cops comfortable. The wants onto came over here. I spoke to the cops. They said you shot my skunk with a hose. I'd been shot my skunk with hose. I did not sir. Did you shoot. Shoot my skunk. I I wanted him to try to get them out of the water. 'em He's got a flower I don't know what to do. Properties acting irrational national day. Fact I don't know that I don't know that other animals have you killed. Come on Jimmy break anybody. Why didn't you save my skunk that articles all over the news going around with Rabi and didn't you see the signs up all of the neighbouring? Hey boss I believe me if I would have seen signs along the neighborhood it had an ID tag and a caller let me out to look. What does the police shooting water? You or the cops. I want him to get him off. My God you look. Look I don't want to discuss this Marissa's said you killed my skunk Marisha. Listen to me after you. Host my skunk. The skunk was all wet and autopsy. Showed that you blinded skunk the skunk wandered into the lake and drowned. You heard a shot by the police in front of the House because as you drown Outta here the shuttle look. I don't WANNA discuss anymore. Okay I'm in the process right now. I'm going to call the police because this is harassment. Okay do me a favor if you can just tell me you're sorry for killing my skunk Elvis. Then I'll forgive you. I'll drop the whole thing. No no absolutely not. There's nothing to forgive you because I did not kill your skunk would what would you at least admit that you had a hand in in the death of my skunk. Absolutely not Sir. I did not come back. I took and I got him out on my property. That's all hi did could you. Could you say excuse me. I`Ma police for the ones who shot. Okay your phone a matter of fact Melissa and I am going to have a frequent conversations taking today and you apologize for Jose Galvez the skunk. Well let me tell you something. You should apologize to your for him. How he get away from you? uh-huh he's allowed to go out in the backyard. The backyard man look. Don't talk to me guy. Okay listen to me you WanNa have a discussion with me common front turn on my face. Okay how the discussion with me. Okay don't talk to me. You can handle the police on the way home. I just filed a harassment charge against where it is calling me. Okay well you you daughter-in-law's to supplant phone tap on you to make. 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