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"donald ki ho" Discussed on Pittsburgh's Paranormal Chasing Prophecy Radio Show

Pittsburgh's Paranormal Chasing Prophecy Radio Show

03:08 min | 1 year ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on Pittsburgh's Paranormal Chasing Prophecy Radio Show

"Now that particular case. I still can see that picture of all the floodlights going up in there. The explosions of the aircraft fire. But why it's not a bigger case. I can't tell you john. I like the case myself. Let me let me just say quickly. Why i think it is more significant case. I think the modern era of you oppose started in one thousand nine hundred forty two because The battle of l. a. was the first time we fired on a ufo the first time we use the balloon. Excuse wasn't roswell the first time we'd denied your foes and the marshall Memo says we recovered a craft off the coast and it was whole within break apart. So that's just my comments on that. Because i think that starts the modern era maybe maybe fighters i know how forty wanna to go back but the modern age apparently is it's been anointed the kenneth arnold sighting of june twenty-fourth nineteen forty seven near mount rainier assertive cast in stone. Now that it was the start of the modern age a world of the modern age of ufo's but there were other cases. I don't know why they've anointed that. One I know roswell at least in my own opinion. The reason it's so popular is that there's so many issues surrounding it number one. It's a nuts and bolts case. It's not a it's not light in the sky. It's not You know things like that. It's it's nuts and bolts crack. There was a release where it said that the russell army airfield had captured these the term captured. They didn't capture it. they just recovered. Captured flying saucer near roswell was actually closer to corona and that There were death threats to silence people that there was a cover up and the the the case died for thirty years for thirty years at went away it was a two day story in nineteen forty seven two days and the reason. It's so popular. I'm guessing now because you know all i know. Is that at the time that we have spent on it is that it's the most investigated case of all time you had stand friedman the father of roswell who i knew well He got started. He hooked up with william moore. They wrote that famous book in nineteen eighty the roswell incident up until that point My hero was donald ki-ho from the nineteen fifties and early sixties. He was a terrific author He didn't go near crash crash. Ufo's he he just stayed away from those. He stayed away from alien bodies because he's trying to get a government oversight trying to get government hearings. Ufo's but he thought crashed saucer stories..

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on Ologies

Ologies

08:13 min | 1 year ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on Ologies

"Sometimes bigger than a football field. What i guess. Nobody'll not alarming. The black tigers spacecraft and You know once you see one you read about it. You see a bunch and then i think most recently you know from the military sightings half going against the windsor a all but if there's a good thing it's an object in one of the various color tic tac and so people have starting about started talking about the tic tac. Ufo's like as if it is a thing as strict category so yeah i think it's just our nature to fit things into that which is so interesting because my assumption was that it would immediately the tic tac thing would get drawn to the sort of historic cigar. Ufo the cigar shaped thing but they seem to be persisting disagree. Objects if you will. There's not a lot of overlap in this sort of lore happening between the tic tac and unlike the metallic cigar that seems very popular in the late fifties and early sixties. That one was paid for by big cigar in. This one is for big tic tac. Okay so these two thousand for word. Two thousand and fourteen and fifteen and two thousand and nineteen tic tac sightings were recorded through the instrument panels of us navy fighter jets aboard the uss and us theodore roosevelt off the southern california coast and official reports. They are described as in a long gated eg or a tic tac that is solid white smooth with no edges and uniformly colored with no wings. But it gets weirder. This footage was leaked by a ufo. Research group started by a guy from blink. One eighty two if you ask me. That's the weirdest fact in this whole episode but it does get to see her so in late twenty seventeen to new york times published three videos and the world has just been waiting for a big report that came out one hour before we recorded this on friday june. Twenty fifth okay. Let's get to the report that was just released today again. I cannot believe. I'm talking to you both on this day. We've waited generations. Perhaps for this. Can you tell me what so far. You've been able to glean from it sir. Have you taken a look at it yet. I have yet Let's see in. Its nine pages from what i understand. Yes it's nine pages in. It looks like they looked into a hundred forty four different reports And were only definitively able to explain one of them only one which was a deflating balloon. I believe in kate. Please correct me. If my memory of this thing. I just read this wrong. And at the the rest of them they were not able to definitively identify but they were able to fit them into five. Potential categories are imagine fitting potential categories of basically Trash sky i think langa actual trash or drones atmospheric phenomena. Us technology for in technology. And then what they call the other all category and of the one hundred forty three reports that they couldn't pin down there were eighteen different incidents and twenty one reports that seemed to perhaps display some kind of advanced flight characteristics. But then they said you know that could be some kind of sensor malfunction or personal misperception in that they need to dig into it more so to recap because numbers hundred and forty four reports and they knew what one was. It was blowed the other one hundred forty three. Were just big. All shrugs that could have been garbage or drones but about twenty seem to fly really weird at really fast making the experts. Say i guess. The biggest conclusion of the report for me and then alternative over to kate is that they they don't know they think people are seeing real things. They catch them on sometimes. Multiple sensor systems. They don't know what most of them are. they want to investigate for. They would like to have funding in systematized with for people to report and investigate. What's going on got it. Yeah i think that's a pretty good pretty great summary so important to note that they're only looking at reports that have come from. Us government sources Which is pretty self selective. This has always been the case like when we look at these government reports They have been very self selective and for the early years. Were really just military and governmental personnel. They only expanded outwards sort of in the project. Blue book days okay so these are investigated sightings seen in reported bring government personnel. Not like your cousin who lives in a yurt and drinks his own pee but project blue book. What was that. So between nineteen fifty two and nineteen sixty nine the us air force investigated analyzed over twelve thousand incidents of ufo's what we now call uap unidentified aerial phenomena and they finally concluded. No ufo reported investigated at a valuable air. Force was ever an indication of threat. Tore national security. If found there was no evidence submitted or discovered rather air force that sightings categorized as unidentified represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of modern scientific knowledge and that there's no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as identified. Were extraterrestrial vehicles. Even back then there were some believers like former marine corps naval aviator donald ki-ho and author who was considered a leader in the field of. Uf all aji in the fifties and sixties. Who disagreed with project. Blue book's mild. Nothing worry about findings. He wrote a book with really kind of wishy. Washy vague title called flying saucers are real major keyhole as author of the book. Flying saucers are real. What is your opinion of these new sightings of unidentified objects ruled respective airforce. I believe that some of them will prove to be of interplanetary origin. During a three year investigation. I found that many policies have described objects of substance and high speed. One case polish reported. Their plane was buffeted by an object with. Pass them at five hundred miles an hour. Obviously this was a solid decade. I believe it was from outer space but that was then and this is now but so these are sources coming coming from governmental sources. Uap sightings tended to cluster around us training and testing grounds but we assess that this may result from a collection bias. Which i think is interesting as a result of focused attention greater numbers of latest generation sensors unit expectations and guidance to report anomalies I've said it before. And i'll say it again. It is not surprising to me that these various government bodies navy and in many cases the air force have test craft right. They have these bases. They're doing all kinds of testing on various kinds of technology manned and unmanned and we should want them to report the things they see. We should want them to tell us if they're anomalous performance in their own aircraft or in the aircraft of others or if they're having strange physiological reactions to things but i do think that it's worth pointing out that the sightings tended to cluster around testing grounds and other sorts of places. But again this is you know i've been people have been asking me for weeks what i expected someone who's read a lot of governmental ufo reports in my day It pretty much. It's exhilarating to me and probably boring. everyone else. How.

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

04:38 min | 2 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Would be ideal. Good out of gene in Kansas Hygiene. You're on ground zero high on first time listener. Actually, about three weeks I've been listening to you and the UFO stuff is very interesting. And a couple of years ago I heard that the term fighters came from the bomber and fighter crews over Europe in World War two. Both side That they saw us. Of course they didn't calm us all the time that they couldn't identify what kind of fighters they were. So they called him following fighters right? Which became fighters. I wonder if any of your listeners are experts have heard that Yes, but the the Foo Fighter. I think the food fighter name came from a comic book. Actually, there was a guy. Ah Ah, it was a comic book called A Smokey Stover, The Foo Fighter. I believe He's a firefighter or something. But the radar. People there in the military actually were readers of Smokey Stover. And that's where they got the name. Foo Fighters. A phony fighter. They don't know what it was that interesting. Yeah, So is the idea that You know if you look up, In fact, I had to look it up just to see if it's there because I could be wrong. See Smokey Stover, Smokey Stover claim claim playing Smokey Stover, the Foo Fighter. Oh, phooey. But it was the bomber and fighter crews over Europe. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it was the foreign 59 Fighter squadron. Okay. Well, I wonder if military stuff like that attract their attention. If there really are extraterrestrial flying around out there are military stuff over the years attract their attention, like wars and I'll hang up and listen. You know, I I would say, you know, maybe, of course. Why would you be attracted to our atomic bombs? They certainly were. You the Foo fighters, Though there was speculation of the longest time there were phantom rockets that were basically sent out by the Germans. And then, of course, came the German saucer. The story's so you know, it gets pretty interesting how it all goes down. Sir. Does thank you very much. Thank you for being so informed. Yeah. Smokey Stover old comic book. I don't we have any. We can find. A pdf of that We could put that in our library it aftermath that meeting, But we have put some new things in there. In fact, I was just going into aftermath to see what treats we have for everybody. So I'm going to aftermath right now. We're on the air. We got a few seconds. Do we or don't we do? I'm gonna go in there. Hold on second and what? We got new. It's interesting we got okay. Ah, we just threw in Flying saucers. Ariel by Donald Ki ho. The book is in there overlords of the UFO's alternative. Three A movie and killers from Space, Big Peter grazes and Killers from Space. That's an old B movies. So Killers from Space Alternative three overlords of the UFO and The Flying Saucer is a real book, An old book by Donald Ki Ho is now an aftermath top media just because of what the military is saying right now. The Pentagon is saying right now, about how you know this is a story that is gonna be, uh in the New York Times. Ah, The UFO mystery is being revealed Little by little As I said before. You know it is. We're talking about these You know these? Whatever they are these artifacts they're not of this earth. I'm thinking this is this could eventually be used for political reasons. I mean, this may be why We're getting this crash course in disclosure from the mainstream media because there's some political value, I think in digging up UFO stories of disclosing the possibility of the military has in their possession machine's been on this world and, you know New York Times Best place to throw this down. I mean, Look after 1947 men were just looking back at the Betty and Barney Hill case, and we were doing it because 1947 July I guess you could go into June to June was, of course, the Mari Island affair. Then we had the Kenneth Arnold sightings over the Pacific northwest to Pacific Northwest stories. Then immediately we go to the Southwest. And New Mexico with Roswell and now Roswell or the Crashing Corona happened in July of 1947. And you don't think the President Truman wasn't concerned about how this would look to the public?.

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on KNST AM 790

KNST AM 790

13:10 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"To coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University in while in the air force. He experienced the encounter that had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization in the country at the time investigating you affords Len. Welcome back to the program. We did George always a pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid. I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Keio did a great job. And he was the head of it also. That's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been? And you pretty writing this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. But we're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. Much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets, because that has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. And you know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure have. Yeah. Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy. It really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under rep for a long time. And finally, emerged, thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring that can was a back and forth, transferring program. No, we said twelve Americans on, on an alien spaceship to that to that planet in nineteen sixty five did they come back. They stayed there for thirteen years. Gosh, reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie. Remember that scene. The movie was about that, actually. Left only seven came back. Five. Trade them died in two to decide to remain there. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm not sure. What's that was that was a question? I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way in not come back in half of the panelist said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not. Say that advance that would intend to stay there. That's surprises because that's likely to go to a fine planet. One hadn't even seen in wanna stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned in. We're was this planet, what system was then and data? About thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system. Isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from? Many. Many planets around that particular son actually actually it's a binary son. Two two sons there in the day ridiculous system. That's, that's the reason that our people never had any darkest there, because there was always one son in the sky. So is always right there were there close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Close encounters came out in, I think it was a seventy seventy seven okay. In do you think they fed Spielberg, some of this information? Absolutely. No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City, he could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? Belong in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known and this was the best way they could do. It was through Spielberg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws rate was the right guy for it any. Hey did a great job, a great movie and people still talking about it today? As a matter of fact. The twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up, in orange jumpsuit in with moving with their sunglasses on and everything else, your strong sunglasses because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright on several. Special and Spielberg brought that out. Len with it was an amazing program. Both the movie and probably the project circle has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we wish how to relation diplomatic relationship with those with that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia. We invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft and landed in northern New Mexico. Lonnie's Maura was right. One in Sikora. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed Nisa Koro instead of home force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's Amora case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hi, Nick was the one that said it was the most convincing case on record. Exactly. Exactly. It changed his whole view. It did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs, and too small. Creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed, they jumped in and took off, they went for while I always thought that, that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because it kind of sounded like it. But it but the more I got into it lend the more I realize now. Morrisseau something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty four nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's that's coincided. It was apps. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes and they took the only took ten months from one to the point end to the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a wormhole where travelers actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web at permeates. The, the whole solar system. It's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're you go to a Stargate and you're traveled instantaneous, when, when you wrote the book secret journey to planet surp- home, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think, how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill. Ryan. Witness. And he talked about the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it, and it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA much information that it's mind boggling, fourteen thousand words in the web on website. Which was created by Bill created the website. That's where all the information come from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this, tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about these astronomy all the astronaut details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it because he was too, too much involved with history program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making touch nutty claim same, same university. You went to yes. Yes, he went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there, and he was brilliant, brilliant. But the whole thing was said. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless. He did write about it in fiction in fictional form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situation because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that tune. Really? He has a head of the department league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's true. It he took the wiser course. And nevertheless, he's still become an immortal guys he's really missing his own right now. The agency that ran the department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. Was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty two. Okay. He and McNamara. Secretary of defense, they had troubles with CIA, as, you know, is everybody knows and Kennedy threatened to break it up into a thousand pieces. I think you know that, right. That part of the reason why he was done in. Yes. Yes, probably. But that's what motivated him to start the DIA, which was a.

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

News Radio 1190 KEX

12:44 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

"Back to coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced a UFO encounter that had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you affords Len. Welcome back to the program. Judge always a pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid. I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Yeah. What a great organization, KO did a great job. And he was the head of the oil also. That's right. Exactly. CIA too. That's a good point. How have you been? I've been fine. I haven't fine and you pretty pull writing you've got this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. We're we might as well book for next year already to get you back again. It's kind of been published in much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because that has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Well show. Yeah, absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. Several and, you know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show, haven't you? Yes. We sure. Have. Yeah. Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under wraps a time, finally emerged, thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. Back and was a back and forth transferring program. No, we set twelve Americans on, on an alien spaceship to that's too, that planet in nineteen sixty five. Did they come that they stayed there for thirteen years? Gosh, reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie remember that seeing the movie was about that actually twelve left only seven came back. Five. Died in two decided to remain there. Really? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I'm not sure they liked it. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an e craft one way and not come back in half of the panelist said, they not go the other half said they would I'm not I don't know. I would say that in advance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises may because that's that's unlikely to go to a fine planet. One hasn't even seen and wanna stay. Stay there. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned in we're was this planet, what system was then. And they take you lie about thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from system system, and there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually, it's a binary son to their two two sons there in the ridiculous system. That's, that's the reason that people never had any darkest there, because there was always one son in the sky. So was always right there. When they were there close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think close encounters came out in, I think it was seventy seventy seven okay in right. Do you think they fed Spielberg some of this information? Absolutely. No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City, it could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have if he wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because they wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? They thought it belonged in the public at the public, had a right to know this because it was important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known. And this was the best way they could do. It was due to Spielberg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws, right? And they thought he thought he was the right guy for it. And he did a great job. It was a great movie and people still talk about it today is a matter of fact. Yeah. And that saying where the twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in orange jumpsuits number that same with moving with their sunglasses on and everything else, your they need it strong sunglasses. Because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright on several. Special as and skipper, brought that out. Len with a lot about it was an amazing program, both the movie and probably the project Serpa has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we tablets to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia we invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft and landed in northern New Mexico. Lonnie Mora was right to coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed near Sokoto instead of Holloman Air Force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed was actually sent to craft here was that case, the lonnie's Amora case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hi, Nick was the one that said it was the most convincing case that on record. Exactly exactly, it changed his whole view. It did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs. And there were too small creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed they jumped in and took off. They went for a while. I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because of kinda sounded like it. But it but the more I got into it lend. The more I realize now, one is more, I saw something from out of this world that incident occurred on April twenty four nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's that's how it all coincided. It was abs-. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes, and they was in Germany took only took them ten months from one to the went into the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a wormhole where travelers actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten the other nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole like bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web, that permeates the, the, the whole solar system, like it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go to Stargate. And you you're traveling instantaneous Lynn when you wrote the book secret journey to planet surp- home, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think, how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill. Ryan. I witness, and he talked about the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on. Now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said, you know, it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA much information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on the website. Which was created by Bill created website. No. That's where all the information come from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about these astronomy all the astronaut details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it because he was too, too much involved with the astronomy program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making touch and nutty, claim same style. Same university, you went to yes. Yes. He went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there, and he was brilliant. He's brilliant. But. The whole thing was that. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless. He did write about it in fiction in excellent form. He wrote the book contact right? So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situa- because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that Tim Sally couldn't he couldn't really he has a head of the department or night league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's that's true. It so he, he took the wiser course. And nevertheless, he's still become immortal guy. He's, he's really missing zone right now the agency that ran this department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. Was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty.

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15:19 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"Coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced the off oh, and Connor that had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you Len. Welcome back to the program. Pleasure. I joined to when I was a kid I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Keio did a great job. And he was also. That's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been? Pretty writing this new book coming out next year dark fleet. Looking forward to that. But we're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. Get. Much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because it has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? It was an interesting. It was an interesting event. You know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure have. Yeah. Bill knows a lot about Serpa, also animals. Ho Terry Cassidy. It really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under wraps along finally emerged, thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. Back and forth back and forth transferring program. No twelve Americans on us on an alien spaceship to, to that planet in nineteen sixty five did they come back. Thirteen years. Gosh, reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie. Remember that scene. Bad, actually. Left only seven came back. Five. Three of them died and decided to remain there. Really? Yeah. Absolutely. I'm not sure. That was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way and not come back in half of the panelist said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not. Say that advance that they would stay there surprises, because that's likely planet one hadn't even seen in. Want to stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned. We're was this planet what system was? Then. About thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system. Isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from? Many. Many planets around that particular son actually actually it's a binary son two sons. They're in the system. That's the reason that our people never had any darkest there, because there was always one in the sky. So always right there. They're close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Closing counters came out in, I think it was a seventy seventy seven. Okay. Right. Do you think they fed Spielberg some of this information? However, he wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the sharing Evelyn's hotel in New York City, it could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because they wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? Long in the public that the public had a right to know this because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it. Wanted it known. And this was the best way they could do. It was through Spielberg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws. Right. Toady was the right guy for it any. He did a great job. Great movie. And people still talk about it today. As a matter of fact. Twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in our suit, moving glasses on and everything else, you're. Strong sunglasses because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright. On special, and Spielberg. Brought that out Len with it was an amazing program, both the movie and probably the project serpico has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we to relation diplomatic relationship with those civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia. We invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so-called. Nineteen sixty four craft landed in northern New Mexico. Mora was right. Coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed Nisa Koro instead of home force base. But then they got finally got a message and they went back to. And they stayed in orbit while the other one landed. Was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's Amora case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. The one that said it was the most convincing case on record exactly. Exactly, it changed his view. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs. And there were two small creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed they jumped in took off, they went for a while. I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because it kind of sounded like it. But it but at the more I got into it lend the more, I realize now Morris us something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty four sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's how coincided it was apps. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes and journey. Took took them ten months from one to the end to the other. So it must have been true. It must have been to a wormhole travel is actually instantaneous, but navigating from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they up the other ten nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web that permeates the, the, the whole solar system. It's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you go to a Stargate and you your travels, instantaneous, when you wrote the book secret journey to planet surp- home, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think, how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? I spent a in a shuttle craft with Bill. Ryan. I witnessed and he talked about the whole the whole trip when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it, and it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA so much information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on website. Which was created by Bill created website. No, that's where all the information comes from, and somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about these astronomy all the astronaut details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it. Because he was too, too much involved with the program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making some touch, and nutty claim same. So same university, you went to yes. Yes. He went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there, and he was brilliant. He's brilliant. But. The whole thing was said. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed input and. But he wrote nevertheless, he did write about it in fiction in pixel form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situation because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that to himself. He couldn't he couldn't really. He has a head of the department or an Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's true. It. Took the wiser, course and nevertheless, he's still become an immortal guy. He's he's really missing his own right now. The agency that ran the department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. President Kennedy nineteen sixty two okay in McNamara's secretary of defense, they had troubles with CIA is, you know, as everybody knows and Kennedy threatened to break it up into a thousand pieces. I think you know that, right. Mhm. Part of the reason why he was done in. Yes. Yes, probably. But that's what motivated him to start the DIA, which was a more comprehensive intelligence agency, that took took into account all of the services, not just the navy or the airforce for the all three combined. It was mainly concerned with fun, pardon intelligence, who is the I was supposed to be too. But the CIA got more absorbed with, with domestic until exactly. Is there an agency that is still overseeing this kind of project? But yeah, the DIA still exists. So there's still the, the watchdogs for this. It's grown is grown to be a huge agency. I think it's even larger than the CIA now. Now, the, the aliens from serbo have been called Evans. Well, yeah. One of our people came up with that term because it stands for extraterrestrial, biological entity, and that was very unimaginative very. Call them even and they got named even stock there still evens how much cooperation has there been land between them and us. A lot of cooperation we discovered a diplomatic relationship with the newer nine nine visits back and forth. And I'm quite convinced even though I hadn't been reported anywhere. I'm sure that we sent our own spaceship, there, believe it or not. General generally, when they came here, I remember and close encounters, of course, it was way out into the hinterlands in the desert by the, you know, some mountain range, where. When they. Where did they normally land? Holloman Air Force base, right next to the white, white, white sands, proving ground have. That's where they landed nineteen sixty five the witnesses must have been amazing. But they're all military people than I guess. People government people.

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

14:35 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"And welcome back to coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University while in the air force. He experienced a UFO encounter that had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on real phenomena that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nycacc was the most prestigious organization of the country. At the time investigating you foes Len. Welcome back to the program. George always a pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Yeah. Today. Shen KO did a great job. And he was the head of it also. That's right. Exactly that is. That's a good point. How have you been, I've been finding and you writing this new book coming out next year dark leak? I've been working on for about a year looking forward to that. We're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. It's going to be published in March. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because it has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Well show. Yeah, absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. And. You know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure have Bill knows a lot about circle also and also carry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under wraps along time. Finally, emerged, thanks to the DIA. They allowed to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. Back and was a back and forth transferring program. No, we set twelve Americans on on an alien spaceship to that's to that planet in nineteen sixty five did. They come back. They stay different thirteen years. Gosh, reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie remember that seeing that the movie was about that actually left only seven came back. Five. Died in two to decide to remain there really. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm not sure it's. I'm sure I'd go. What it was. That was a question. I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way in not come back in half of the panelists that they not go. The other half said they would I'm not would I don't know why anyone would say that in advance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises may because that's that's unlikely to go to planet. When haven't even seen wanna stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned, and we're was this planet. What system was them? About thirty nine years from our solar system that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and bitty hill case might have originated from system. It's law system, and there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually, to binary son, took two two sons there in the ticket system. That's, that's the reason that our people never had any darkest hour, because there was always one son in the sky. So always like there when they're close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think close encounters came out in, I think it was a seventy seventy seven okay. In do you think they fed Spielberg, some of this information? Absolutely. No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend to Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City. He could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have if he wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? They belong in the public that the public had a right to know this because it was important story. And so the DIA people who who released it wanted it known. And this was the best way they could do. It was through Spielberg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws, right? Thirty was the right guy for it. And he did a great job, a great movie and people still talking about it today is a matter of fact, and that scene, where the, the twelve twelve people lined up to ten minutes to women lined up in our jumpsuits point, moving with their sunglasses on and everything else, your they need strong sunglasses. Because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright on several. Special and skipper, but that out when with a lot about it was an amazing program, both the movie, and probably the project Serpa has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we tablets to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia. I mean but at the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as better fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft and landed in northern New Mexico. Lonnie's more was right. Coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed Nisa curled, instead of home and force base. But then they got plenty got a message, and they went back to Howman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's immoral case that conveys J Ellen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Nick was the one that said it was the most convincing case that on record that exactly. Exactly it changed. His whole view did exactly. And because it was a huge shape, crafts, sitting on the ground on legs, and they're too, small. Creature standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed jumped in and took off off. They went for why I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they had out there somewhere because it kind of sounded like it, but it but the more I got into it line. The more I realize now, one is more something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty points, nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's how it all coincided. It was apps. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they add anti-matter technology, we know that. But they also knew how to travel through holes. And attorney to took the only took ten months from one to the point into the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a window, where travel is actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wolves, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web that permeates the whole solar system. Like it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go to a Stargate and your travels instantaneous. When, when you wrote the book secret journey to planet, sir poem, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think, how did you come across this story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a in a settle craft with Bill Ryan. I witness witnessed he talked about it the whole the whole trip when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small can. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said. It was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it makes sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA such information that it's mind-boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on website, which was created by Bill. Doug created the website. No, that's real. The information comes from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about these astronomy all the astronauts nominal details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it because he was too, too much involved with these program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making touch nutty, claim seem so same university, you went to yes. Yes, he went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there, and he was brilliant. He's brilliant. But. The whole thing was that. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his knees, input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless, he did write about it in fiction and pick some form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situation because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept he couldn't he couldn't really he has head of to department Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. It he took the wiser course. And nevertheless, he's still becoming immortal guys. He's really missing zone right now the agency that ran this department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that the day was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty two okay. He and McNamara. Secretary of defense. They had troubles with CIA is, you know, is everybody knows and Kennedy threaten to break it up into a thousand pieces. I think you know that, right. Mhm. Part of the reason why he was done in. Yes. Yes, probably. But that's what motivated him to start the DIA, which was a more comprehensive intelligence agency, that, that took took into account, all of all of the service of not just the navy or the airforce for the three combined was mainly concerned with fun. Foreign intelligence, who is the CIA was supposed to be too. But see, I got more absorbed with with domestic until. Exactly, exactly. Is there an agency that is still overseeing this kind of project? But yeah DIA still exists. So they're still the, the watchdogs for this. It's grown is grown to be a huge agency. I think it's even larger than the CIA now. Now, the, the aliens from serbo have been called Eddin's. Well, yeah, one of our people came up with that term because it stands for extraterrestrial, biological entity, and that was very unimaginative very. To call them even and they got named Evenson stuck still even how much cooperation has there been land between them and us. A lot of cooperation we established a diplomatic relationship with the new nine nine visits back and forth. And I'm quite convinced even though I hadn't been reported anywhere. I'm sure that we have now sent our own spaceship, there, believe it or not. Gender generally, when they came here, I remember in close in counters, of course, it was way out into the hinterlands in the desert by the, you know, some mountain range where when, when it first came here. Where did they normally land landed at Holloman Air Force base, right next to the white white sands, proving ground have? That's where they landed nineteen sixty five the witnesses must've been amazing, but they're all military people then they guess, people government people..

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WTVN

15:08 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on WTVN

"To coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced the off. Oh, encounter. That had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you affords Len. Welcome back to the program. Judge suppose I joined nightcap to when I was a kid I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Yeah. What a great organization, KO did a great job. And he was the head of it foil. Also. That's right. Exactly that the CIA to. That's a good point. How have you been? I've been fine. I haven't fine and you pretty writing you've got this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. We're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. It's going to be published in much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because that has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Yeah. Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. Several and you know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure. Have. Yeah. Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under rep for a long time, and finally emerged. Thanks, the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. That can wasn't a back and forth, transferring program. No, we set twelve Americans on, on an alien spaceship to that's too, that planet in nineteen sixty five did they come back. They stayed there for thirteen years. Gosh, reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie remember that seeing the movie was about that actually twelve left only seven came back. Five. Pritam died, and to decide to remain there really. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I'm not sure they liked it. I'm go. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way in not come back. In half the panelist said they not go the other half said they would. I'm doing with I don't know why anyone would say that in advance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises me because that's that's unlikely to go to a fine planet, one haven't even seen and wanna stay. Yeah. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned. And in we're was this planet, what system was then? And particularly about thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from a large system. It's very law system. And there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually it's a binary son. Two two two sons there in the system. The that's, that's the reason that our people never had any darkest hour, because there was always one son in the sky. So was always like there, whenever they're close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Close encounters came out in, I think it was seventy seventy seven okay in by do you think they fed Spielberg, some of this information? Absolutely. No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City, it could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have if he wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA, did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened. Yes. If they, they thought it belonged in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known and this was the best way they could do. It was through Spielberg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws, right? And they thought he thought he was the right guy for it any. Hey did a great job. Oh, it was a great movie. And people still talk about it today is a matter of fact, and that scene, where the twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in our jumpsuit, in number that same point, moving with their sunglasses on and everything else, your they needed strong sunglasses because they knew an advance that the sun was very bright on several special as and Spielberg brought that out Lynn with a lot about it was an amazing program. Both the movie and probably the project circle has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we us to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia. I mean by the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft landed in northern New Mexico. Lonnie's Maura was right one coral that was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed near Sokoto instead of Holloman Air Force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed. Was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's immoral case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hynick was the one that said it was the most convincing case that on record. Exactly exactly, it changed his whole view. It did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs and were too small creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed they jumped in and took off. They went for a while. I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because of kinda sounded like it. But it but the more I got into it lend the more I realize now one is a more. I saw something from out of this world that incident occurred on April twenty four nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's how it all coincided. It was apps. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes, and it was in Germany took the only took ten months from one to the point into the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a wormhole where travelers actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten the other nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web at primates the, the whole solar system, like it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're you go through a Stargate, and you're traveling instantaneous Lynn when you wrote the book secret journey to planet surp- home, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think, how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a in a settled craft with Bill, Ryan and hurt. I witness, and he talked about the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on. Now he wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said, you know, it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it made sense to me. And I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website that was put out there by the DIA so much information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on website, which was created by Bill created a website. No. That's where all the information comes from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about these astronomy, all the astronaut Michael details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it because he was too, too much involved with strana me program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making some a nutty claim same, so same university, you went to yes. Yes, he went to Cornell. He was the head of the strana department there. And he was brilliant. He's brilliant. But the whole thing was that. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote, he nevertheless, he did write about it in fiction in fictional form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about information what he knew about situation because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept he couldn't. He couldn't really he has had of these trying to department an Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's that's true. It so he, he took the wiser course and. Nevertheless, he's still become an immortal guy. He's, he's really missing his own right now the agency that ran this department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. It was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty two. Okay. He and McNamara. Secretary of defense they had troubles with CIA is, you know, is everybody knows and kind of threatened to break it up into a thousand pieces. I think you know that. Right. And that part of the reason why he was done in. Yes. Yes. Probably. But that's what motivated him to start the DIA, which was a more comprehensive intelligence agency, that, that took took into account all of all the services, not just the navy or the airforce with the army was all three combined. It was mainly concerned with fun foreign intelligence, who is the CI was supposed to be too. But see, I got more absorbed with, with domestic until exactly. Exa- is, is there an agency that is still overseeing this? Kind of project. But yeah, the DIA still exists. So they're still the, the watchdogs for this. It's grown is grown to be a huge agency. I think it's even larger than the CIA now. Now, the, the aliens from serbo have been called Evans. Well, yeah, one of our people came up with that term because it stands for extraterrestrial biological entity. And that was a very unimagined very animated way to call them even and they got named even stuck there, still even how much cooperation has there been land between them and us. A lot of cooperation we established any diplomatic relationship with the new nine nine visits back and forth. And I'm quite convinced even though I hadn't been reported anywhere. I'm sure that we have now sent around spaceship, there, believe it or not. Gender generally, when they came here, remembering close in counters, of course, it was way out into the hinterlands in the desert by, you know some mountain range where when I came here. Where did they normally land landed at Holloman Air Force base, right next to the whites white sands proving ground?.

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News Radio 690 KTSM

15:21 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on News Radio 690 KTSM

"Welcome back to coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced the off. Oh, encounter. That had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you Len. Welcome back to the program. Actually, George always a pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Yeah. What a great organization, KO did a great job. And he it was the head of it also. That's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been Ivan fine? Haven't finally. And you pretty writing you've got this new book coming out next year dark leap. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. But we're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. It's kind of be published in much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets serpico because that has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Well show. Yeah, absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. And. You know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure have Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under for longtime at finally emerged, thanks to DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. That can was a back and forth, transferring program. No, we set twelve Americans on on an alien spaceship to that to that planet in nineteen sixty five. Did they come that they stay differ thirteen years? Reminds me of the ending of that close and counters of the third kind movie remember that scene. The movie was about that actually left only seven came back. Five. Freedom died in two decided to remain there, really. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm not sure. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way in not come back in half of the panelists they not go the other half said they would. I'm not I don't know why I would say that in advance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises because that's that's unlikely to go to a fun planet one haven't even seen in wanna stay. Yeah. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they like they're two of them tuned in we're was this planet, what system was then and data, take you lie about thirty nine light years from our solar system, isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from system system, and there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually, it's a binary son took two, two sons there in the system, the, that's, that's the reason that our people never had any doctor step, because it was always one son in the sky. So it was always like there, whenever they're close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Close encounters came out in, I think it was a seventy seventy seven okay in right. Do you think they fed Spielberg some of this information absolately? No question wherever he wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City, he could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have if he wasn't being fed information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? They thought it belonged in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known and this was the best way they could do. It was through Spielberg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws. Right. And they thought he thought he was the right guy for it any. Hey did a great job, a great movie. And people still talking about it today as a matter of fact, and that scene, where the, the twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in orange jumpsuits in Saint moving with their sunglasses on and everything else your they needed strong sunglasses because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright on. Supple. Special and skipper, brought that out. When we with a lot about it was an amazing program. Both the movie and probably the project circle has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we tablets to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia and we invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft and landed in northern New Mexico. Lonnie's Maura was right. Coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed near Sokoto instead of home and force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's immoral case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hi, Nick was the one that said it was the most convincing case that on record. Exactly exactly, it changed his whole view. It did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs, and too small. Creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed they jumped in and took off. They went for a while. I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because it kinda sounded like it. But, but the more I got into it lend. The more I realize now, one is more something from out of this world. Well, that incident occurred on April twenty four nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's that's how it all coincided. It was abs-. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes, and it was a journey to took the only took ten months from one to the went into the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a wormhole travel is actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web, that primates the, the, the whole solar system, like it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go through a Stargate. And you're traveled instantaneous one when you wrote the book secret journey to planet surp-, which was back in two thousand thirteen. I think how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill. Ryan. I witnessed any talked about it the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said, you know, it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website that was put out there by the DIA so much information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on website, which was created by Bill created website. No. That's where all the information comes from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about the astronomy all the astronaut details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it. Because he was too, too much involved with the astronomy program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making such a nutty claim same. So same university. You went to yes. Yes, he went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there, and he was brilliant, brilliant, but. The whole thing was that. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote, he nevertheless, he did write about it in fiction in fictional form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about the situation because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept he couldn't. He couldn't really he has had of trying to department an Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's true it so he took the wiser course and. Nevertheless, he's still becoming immortal guy. He's, he's really missing his own right now the agency that ran this department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. Was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty two okay. He and McNamara's secretary of defense they had troubles with CIA is, you know, is everybody knows and Kennedy threatened to break it up into a thousand pieces. I think you know that, right. Mhm name part of the reason why he was done in. Yes. Yes, probably. But that's what motivated him to start the DIA, which was a more comprehensive intelligence agency that, that took took into account all of the services, not just the navy or the airforce with the army was all three combined. It was mainly concerned with fun foreign intelligence, who is the see I was supposed to be too. But see, I got more absorbed with, with domestic until exactly. Exa- is is there an agency that is still overseeing this kind of project? But yeah, the DIA still exists. So they're still the, the watchdogs for this it's grown. It's grown to be a huge agency. I think it's even larger than the CIA now. Now, the, the aliens from serbo have been called Evans. Well, yeah, one of our people came up with that term because it stands for extraterrestrial biological entity. And that was a very unimagined very animated way to call them even and they got named even stuck there still even how much cooperation has there been Len between them and us. A lot of cooperation we status a diplomatic relationship with the new nine nine visits back and forth. And I'm quite convinced even though I hadn't been reported anywhere. I'm sure that we have now sent around spaceship, there, believe it or not. Gender generally, when they came here, remembering close in counters, of course, it was way out into the hinterlands in the desert by, you know, some mountain range, where when the press the rain came here, where did they normally land landed at Holloman Air Force base, right next to the whites white sands proving ground. That's where they landed nineteen sixty five the witnesses must've been amazing. But they're all military people than I guess. Yeah. People government people and..

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

12:44 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on KTOK

"To coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced the encounter that had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you Len. Welcome back to the program. Judge always a pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid. I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Yeah. What a great organization kale did a great job. And he was the head of it. Also. That's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been, I've been fine haven't fine. And you pretty writing you've got this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. We're we might as well book for next year already to get you back again. Published in much tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because that has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. Several and you know, you've had no Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure. Have. Yeah. Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under for longtime at finally emerged. Thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. That can wasn't a back and forth, transferring program. No. We set twelve Americans on us on an alien spaceship to that's too, that planet in nineteen sixty five. Did they come that they stayed there for thirteen years? Reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie. Remember that scene. The movie was about that actually twelve left only seven came back. Five. Trade them died in two decided to remain there. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm not sure. It. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way in not come back. In half the panelist said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not I don't know why anyone would say that in advance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises me because that's that's unlikely to go to a fine planet one hasn't even seen in one to stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned. And, and we're was this planet. What system was then and data ridiculous. About thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system. Isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from system? It's law system, and there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually, it's a binary son to two two sons there in the day ridiculous system. That's, that's the reason that our people never had any darkest there, because there was always one son in the sky. So is always right there were there close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Close encounters came out in, I think it was seventy seventy seven okay in by do you think they fed Spielberg, some of this information? Absolutely. No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City, it could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have if he wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? They thought it belonged in the public at the public, had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known and this was the best way they could do. It was just feel Berg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws, right? And they thought he thought he was the right guy for it. Any any did a great job. It was a great movie. And people still talking about it today is a matter of fact that scene, where the, the twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in our jumpsuit in that same point moving with their sunglasses on and everything else. Your they need it strong sunglasses. Because they knew an advance that the sun was very bright on. Supple. Uh-huh. Castle special saw visit and Spielberg brought that out. When we with a lot about it was an amazing program, both the movie and probably the project Serpa has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we traveled to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia and we invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft landed in northern New Mexico. Lonnie immoral was right. Coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed near Sokoto instead of home and force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's Amora case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hi, Nick was the one that said it was the most convincing case that on record. Exactly. Exactly, it changed his whole view. It did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs. And there were two small creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed, they jumped in and took off off. They went for a while. I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because it kind of sounded like it. But, but the more I got into it lend the more I realized now one is more something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty fourth nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's how it all coincided. It was abs-. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have well, they had anti-matter technology? We know that, but they also knew how to travel through wormholes, and it was in Germany, that took the only took them ten months from one to the point into the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a wormhole where travel is actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten other nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole. It's like bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web, that permeates the, the, the whole solar system, like it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go to a Stargate. And you're traveled instantaneous, when, when you wrote the book secret journey to planet Serpa, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think how did you come across this story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill. Ryan. I witnessed any talk about the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on. Now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said, you know, it was it was the level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website that was put out there by the DIA so much information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on website, which was created by Bill Doug created website. No. That's where all the information comes from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about these astronomy all the astronaut details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it. Because he was too, too much involved with history program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making such a nutty claim same. So same university. You went to yes. Yes. He went to Cornell. He was the head of the strana department there, and he was brilliant. He's brilliant. But. The whole thing was that. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless. He did write about it in fiction in fictional form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situation because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that to himself he couldn't, he couldn't really he has had to be trying to department or an Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's that's true. It he took the wiser course. And. Nevertheless, he's still becoming immortal guy. He's, he's really missing his own right now the agency that ran this department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. It was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty.

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on 600 WREC

600 WREC

13:59 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on 600 WREC

"And welcome back to coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced the off. Oh, encounter. That had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you affords Len. Welcome back to the program. George. Are we suppose I join nightcap to when I was a kid I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Yeah. What a great organization, KO did a great job. And he was the head of it for a while also. That's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been? I've been fine. I haven't fine and you pretty writing this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. But we're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. It's going to be published in much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because it has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. You know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure have Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy. It really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under rep for a long time at finally emerged, thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring that can wasn't a back and forth, transferring program. No, we said twelve Americans on, on an alien spaceship to that's too, that planet in nineteen. Sixty five did they come back? They stayed there for thirteen years. Gosh, reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie. Remember that scene. The movie was about that, actually. Left only seven came back. Five. Pritam died in two decided to remain there, really. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I'm not sure. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way in not come back in half of the panelists said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not I don't know why anyone would say that in advance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises because that's unlikely planet. One hadn't even seen in wanna stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're chosen tuned, and we're was this planet, what system was then. Lie about thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from? System system. There are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually it's a binary son. Took two two sons there in the system. That's, that's the reason that our people never had any darkest, because there was always one son in the sky. So is always right there. When they were there close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think close encounters came out in, I think it was a seventy seventy seven okay. In do you think they fed Spielberg, some of this information? Absolutely. No question. What so ever he wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City? He could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have if he wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA, did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened. Yes, they thought it belonged in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known and this was the best way they could do. It was through Spielberg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws rate thought he thought he was the right guy for it any, and he did a great job. It was a great movie. And people still talking about it. Today is a matter of fact. Yeah. And that scene, where the twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in orange jumpsuits moving with their sunglasses on and everything else. Your. Yeah, they needed strong sunglasses because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright on several. Special visit and Spielberg brought that out. Lynn with a lot about it was an amazing program. Both the movie and probably the project circle has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we tablets to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia we invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft and landed in northern New Mexico. Lonnie Maura was right. Coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed near Sokoto instead of home and force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed. Was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's Amora case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hynick was the one that said it was the most convincing case that on record that exactly exactly it changed his whole view. It did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs, and too small. Creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed, they jumped in and took off off. They went for a while. I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they had out there somewhere because it kind of sounded like it. But it but the more I got into it lend. The more I realize now, one is more something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty fourth nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us, they would becoming. That's that's how it all coincided. It was abs-. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes, and it was a journey took the only took ten months from one to the point into the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a wormhole where travelers actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten the other nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web, that permeates the whole solar system, like it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go to a Stargate, and you, you're traveling instantaneous, when, when you wrote the book secret journey to planet home, which was back in two thousand thirteen. I think how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill. Ryan. And I witnessed and he talked about the whole the whole trip. Now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. No, it's a small small can. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said. It was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA such information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on website. Which was created by Bill created the website. That's where all the information comes from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about the astronomy all the astronaut details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it. Because he was too, too much involved with history program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making such a nutty claim same. So same university. You went to yes. Yes, he went to Cornell. He was head of the department there, and he was brilliant. He's brilliant. But. The whole thing was that. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless. He did write about it in fiction fictional form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situation because publicly he would always talk about extra terrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that to silly. He couldn't he couldn't really. He has the head of the department or night league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's true. It so he took the wiser course. And nevertheless, he's still becoming immortal guy. He's he's really missing his own right now. The agency that ran this department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty two okay. He mcnamara. Secretary of defense. They had troubles with CIA, as, you know, is everybody knows, and Kennedy threatened to break it up into a thousand pieces. I think you know that, right. And that name part of the reason why he was done in. Yes. Yes, probably. But that's what motivated him to start the DIA, which was a more comprehensive intelligence agency, that, that took took into account all of all the services, not just the navy or the airforce with the three combined, and it was mainly concerned with fun foreign intelligence, who is the CI was supposed to be too. But see, I got more absorbed with local with domestic until exactly. Exa- is is there an agency that is still overseeing this kind of project? But yeah, the DIA still exists. So they're still the, the watchdogs for this it's grown. It's grown to be a huge agency. I think it's even larger than the CIA now. Now, the, the aliens from serbo have been called Evans..

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13:23 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on 710 WOR

"To coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced the encounter that had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you Len. Welcome back to the program. George pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid. I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Yeah. What a great organization, KO did a great job. And he was the head of it. Also. That's right. Exactly. CIA too. That's a good point. How have you been? Haven't fine and you pretty writing you've got this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. But we might as well book for next year already to get you back. Published in much tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets circle, because that has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. You know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure. Have. Yeah. Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy. It really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the undergrad longtime finally emerged, thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring back and forth, wasn't a back and forth, transferring program. No, we set twelve Americans on on an alien spaceship to, to that planet in nineteen sixty five did they come back. They stayed there for thirteen years. Reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie remember that team. Bad actually twelve left, only seven came back. Five. Three of them died in two decided to remain there, really. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm not sure. Elected. What was that was a question? I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way and not come back in half of the panelist said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not I don't know why. I would say that advance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises because that's unlikely to go to a fun planet. One haven't even seen in wanna stay. After being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned, it and we're was this planet. What system was it them? About thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system. Isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from system? There are many. Many planets around that particular son actually actually it's a binary son. Two two two sons there in the system. That's, that's the reason that people never had any darkest there, because there was always one son in the sky. So is always like, they're, they're close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Close encounters came out in, I think it was seventy seventy seven okay in, do you think they fed Spielberg, some of the information? However, he wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City, he could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? They thought it belonged in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known and this was the best way they could do. It was just feel. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws, right? He was the right guy for it any. Hey did a great job, a great movie and people still talking about it today? As a matter of fact. Twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in our jumpsuit in Saint with moving with their sunglasses on and everything else, your strong sunglasses because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright on several. Special. Visit and skipper brought that out. When with a lot about it was an amazing program. Both the movie and probably the project circle has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we tablets to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia and we invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as better fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft and landed in northern New Mexico. Wani's immoral was right. Coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed Nisa Koro instead of home force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed. Was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's immoral case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hi, Nick was the one that said it was the most convincing case that on record. Exactly. Exactly it changed. His whole view did exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs. And there were two small creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed they jumped in and took off, they went for a while. I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they had out there somewhere because it kind of sounded like it. But it but the more I got into it lend the more, I realize, now, more something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty four sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's that's how all coincided. It was apps. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes and it was journey. Took took them ten months from one to the one end to the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a wormhole travel is actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up. The other ten nine months once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web that permeates the, the whole solar system, like it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're you go to a Stargate. And you you're traveled instantaneous Lynn, when you wrote the book secret journey to planet Serpa, which was back in two thousand thirteen. I think how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill Ryan. I witnessed and he talked about the whole the whole trip now when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. Talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it, and it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA much information that it's mind boggling, fourteen thousand words in the web on website. Which was created by Bill created website. That's where all the information comes from, and somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about these astronomy all the astronaut details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it. Because he was too, too much involved with history program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making some touch, and nutty claim same same university. You went to yes. Yes, he went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there, and he was brilliant, brilliant, but. The whole thing was that. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless, he did write about it, and fiction and pick some form he wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situa- because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that to himself. He couldn't he couldn't really. He has had of trying to department Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's true. It he took the wiser course. And nevertheless, he's still become an immortal guy. He's, he's really amidst his own right now. The agency that ran the department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. It was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty two. Okay. He and McNamara. Secretary of defense they had troubles with CIA is, you know, is everybody knows and Kennedy threatened to break it up into a thousand pieces. I think you know that, right. Part of the reason why he was done in. Yes. Yes, probably. But that's what motivated him to start the DIA, which was a more comprehensive intelligence agency, that took took into account all of the services, not just the navy or the airforce for the army was all three combined. It was mainly concerned with.

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KNST AM 790

13:09 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"Coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University in while in the air force. He experienced the off encounter that had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization in the country at the time investigating you afford Len. Welcome back to the program. Are we supposed joined nightcap to when I was a kid I got my little certificate card and everything else? But God I loved it. Keio did a great job. Was the head of it also? That's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been? And you pretty writing this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I know I've been working on for a year. Looking forward to that. We're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. Published in much tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets serpico because it has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Yeah. Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. And you know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure. Have. Yeah. Bill knows a lot about Serpa also. And also, Terry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under rep for longtime and finally emerged. Thanks, the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. That can wasn't a back and forth, transferring program. No, we said twelve Americans on, on an alien spaceship to, to that planet in nineteen sixty five did they come back. They stayed there for thirteen years reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie. Remember that scene. The movie was about bad, actually. Twelve left, only seven came back. Five. Pritam died in two to decide to remain there really. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm not sure. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an ET craft one way in not comeback in half of the panelist said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not. Say that advance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises because that's unlikely to go to a fine planet one hadn't even seen in wanna stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned in. We're was this planet. What system was them? Data about thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from. System, and there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually, it's a binary son to two two sons there in the day ridiculous system. That's, that's the reason that our people never had any darkest there, because there was always one son in the sky. So is always right there were there close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Close encounters came out in, I think it was seventy seventy seven okay. Do you think they fed Spielberg some of this information? No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City, he could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? Yes, they thought it belonged in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known. And this was the best way they could do it was do it through Spielberg. He just made a tremendous hit with jaws, right? Was the right guy for it any? Hey did a great job. Great movie. And people still talking about it today. As a matter of fact. The twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in orange jumpsuit in moving with their sunglasses on and everything else, your strong sunglasses because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright on sample. Special visit and Spielberg brought that out. When we with a lot about it was an amazing program, both the movie and probably the project serpico has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we tablets to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia. We invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft landed in northern New Mexico. San antonio. Mora was right Sikora. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed near Sokoto instead of home and force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed. Was actually sent to craft here was that case, the lonnie's Amora case that conveys j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hi, Nick was the one that said it was the most convincing case on record. Exactly exactly, it changed his whole view. It did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs, and too small. Creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed they jumped in took off, they went for a while. I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because it kind of sounded like it. But, but the more I got into it lend. The more I realize, now, more, I saw something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty four nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's, that's how coincided it was apps. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes and it was journey. Took only took ten months from one to the one end to the other. So it must have been true. It must have been to a wormhole travel is actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten the other nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web permeates the, the whole solar system. It's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go to a Stargate, and you're traveling instantaneous, when, when you wrote the book secret journey to planet, sir poem, which was back in two thousand thirteen. I think how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill. Ryan. Witness. And he talked about the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it, and it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA. Some information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on the website. Which was created by Bill created the website. No. That's where all the information come from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about the astronomy all the astronaut details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it. Because he was too, too much involved with history program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making touch and nutty claim same same university. You went to. Yes. Yes. He went to Cornelius ahead of the department there, and he was brilliant, brilliant, but. The whole thing was said. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless. He did write about it in fiction in fictional form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situa- publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there, but he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that. So. Couldn't he couldn't really he has a head of the department or night league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's that's true. It. He took the wiser, course and nevertheless, he's still become an immortal guy. He's, he's really amidst his own right now the agency that ran this department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. Was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty two. Okay. He and McNamara. The secretary of defense they had troubles with CIA is, you know, everybody knows and Kennedy threatened to break it up into a thousand pieces. I think you know that. Right. And that name part of the reason why he was done in. Yes. Yes. Probably. But that's what motivated him to start the DIA, which was a.

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KLBJ 590AM

12:39 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

"US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced the off. Oh, encounter. That had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, and while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you affords Len. Welcome back to the program. Judge always a pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid. I got my little certificate card and everything else. God. I loved it. Yeah. What a great nation. KO did a great job. And he was the head of the toil. So that's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been? I've been fine. I haven't fine and you pretty writing. You've got this new book coming out next year dark league. I know I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. We're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. It's published in much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because that has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that? Show. Yeah. Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. Several and. You know, you've had no Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure have Bill knows a lot about Serpa also and also carry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the undergrad for longtime at finally emerged. Thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. That can wasn't a back and forth, transferring program. No, we set twelve Americans on on alien spaceship to that to that planet in nineteen sixty five did they come back. Thirteen years. Reminds me of the ending of that close encounters of the third kind movie. Remember that scene. The movie was about that actually but left, only seven came back. Five. Them died in two decided to remain there, really. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm not sure. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend. If you would go on an AT craft one way in not come back in half of the panelists said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not I don't know why anyone would say that dance that they would intend to stay there. That's surprises, because that's that's unlikely to cuddle find planet one haven't even seen in one to stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned in. We're was this planet, what system was it in and data ridiculous? About thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from system. It's very law system. And there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually it's a binary son. Two two two sons there in the system. That's, that's the reason that our people never had any darkest Evie, because there was always one son in the sky. So it was always like there, whenever they're close encounters came out late. Seventies, I think. Close encounters came out, and I think it was seventy seventy seven okay. Do you think they fed Spielberg, some of the information? Absolutely. No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the sharing Evelyn's hotel in New York City, it could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have she wasn't being fed information, and he was getting the information from the DIA. Did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened? They thought they thought it belonged in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was an important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known and this was the best way they could do it was through Spielberg just made tremendous hit with jaws, right? And they thought he thought he was the right guy for it. And he did a great job. It was a great movie. And people still talking about it today. As a matter of fact that scene, where the twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in our jumpsuit, in that same moving with their sunglasses on and everything else, your strong sunglasses because they knew an advance that the sun was very bright on several. Special south as and spear brought that out. When with a lot about it was an amazing program. Both the movie and probably the project circle has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end we traveled to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four craft and landed in northern New Mexico, lonnie's Maura was right. Coral. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed Nisa Sokoto, instead of Holloman Air Force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed. Was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's immoral case that convicts j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hynick was the one that said it was the most convincing case on record. Exactly exactly it changed. His whole view did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs, and too small. Creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed, they jumped in and took off, they went for why we stopped at that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they have out there somewhere because of kind of sounded like it. But it but the more I got into it lend the more I realized now Amora more something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty four th nineteen sixty four which was the exact date at the alliens had told us, they would be coming. That's how it all coincided. It was apps. Absolutely right. On target Lynn. What kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes, and they would enjoy any took it only took them ten months from one to the point into the other. So it must have been true. It must have been through a worm all whereabout travel, actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It isn't cineastes. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes are really part of a much larger web permeates the, the whole solar system. I it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go to a Stargate. And you're traveled instantaneous one. When you wrote the book secret journey to planet surp- home, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think, how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? I spent two hours in a in a shuttle craft with Bill Ryan. I witnessed any talk about the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on now. He wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small can. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said it was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA such information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in the web on website. Which was created by Bill created website. No. That's where all the information comes from, and somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consulted about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because in more information about these astronomy, astronomical details. And he, he provided information but he could never admit to it because he was too, too much involved with is trying to me program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making some touch, and nutty claim same. So same university, you went to yes. Yes. He went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there, and he was brilliant. He's brilliant. But the whole thing was said. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless. He did write about it in fiction in fictional form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situa- publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that to he couldn't. He couldn't really he has had to be trying to department Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job. Yeah. That's, that's true it so he took the wiser course and. Nevertheless, he's still becoming immortal guy. He's he's really missing his own right now. The agency that ran the department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that the DA was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty.

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

12:40 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University while in the air force. He experienced the off. Oh, encounter. That had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization of the country at the time investigating you afford Len. Welcome back to the program. Pleasure. I joined nightcap to when I was a kid I got my little certificate card and everything else. But God I loved it. Yeah. What a great today. Shen KO did a great job. And he was the head of the oil. So that's right. Exactly. CIA too. That's a good point. How have you been? I've been fine. I haven't fine and you pretty writing. You've got this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I've been working on it for about a year. Looking forward to that. But we're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. It's of been published in much. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because it has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Absolutely. It was a it was an interesting. It was an interesting event. And. You know, you've had Bill Ryan on your show avenue. Yes. We sure. Have. Yeah. Bill knows a lot about Serpa also also carry Cassidy, it really happened. It actually happened and it was kept under the under for long time. But finally, emerged, thanks to the DIA. They had a lot to do with it. It was a program of what transferring. That can wasn't a back and forth, transferring program. No, we set twelve Americans on on an alien spaceship to that's to that planet in nineteen. Sixty five did they come that they stayed there for thirteen years? Reminds me of the ending of that close counters of the third kind movie remember that seeing that the movie was about that actually twelve left only seven came back. Five. Three of them died, and to decide to remain there really. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm not sure it. What's that was that was a question I asked at contact in the desert this weekend, if you would go on an e craft one way and not come back in half of the panelist said they not go the other half said they would. I'm not I don't know why anyone would say that in advance that they wouldn't tend to stay there. That's surprises. Maybe because that's that's unlikely to go to a fund planet one hadn't even seen one to stay. But after being there for thirteen years, they decided they liked it. They're two of them tuned, and we're was this planet. What system was then and data ridiculous. I did about thirty nine light years from our sun, our solar system. Isn't that the same planetary system that we think the Barney, and Betty hill case might have originated from system system, and there are many, many planets around that particular son, actually actually, it's a binary son to their two two sons there, and they take your system. That's, that's the reason that people never had any darkest there, because there was always one son in the sky. So is always right there. When they were there close encounters came out late seventies, I think. Closing counters came out in, I think it was seventy seventy seven okay in by do you think they fed Spielberg, some of this information? Absolutely. No question whatsoever. He wrote the screenplay in one weekend at the Sherry Netherlands, hotel in New York City, it could not possibly have done that, if he didn't have if he wasn't being fed the information, and he was getting the information from the DIA, did they give him the information because it wanted to start leaking this out or or what happened. Yes. If they thought it belonged in the public that the public had a right to know this, because it was important story. And so the DIA people who released it wanted it known, and this was the best way they could do it was those feel. He just made tremendous hit with jaws, right? And they thought he thought he was the right guy for it any. He did a great job. It was a great movie. And people still talking about it today. As a matter of fact. Yeah. And that's saying where the twelve twelve people lined up ten minutes to women lined up in orange jumpsuit in Saint with moving with their sunglasses on and everything else your. Yeah, they need it strong sunglasses. Because they knew in advance that the sun was very bright on. Supple. Special and Spielberg brought that out. Len with a lot about it was an amazing program, both the movie and probably the project Serpa has the project ended or is it ongoing? No, it did not end, we wish have to relation diplomatic relationship with those that civilization. And there were several other visits back and forth after that. And in the case of one visit which took place at an island in the Pacific. We invited other other countries to attend invited China invited Russia. We invited the Vatican. The craft that was used to get us back there. Of course, have we ever reversed engineered it? Well, we did yes, we did reverse engineer that craft. And as fact that was that was the so called. Nineteen sixty four crap that landed in northern New Mexico. Money, the moral was right. The one in Sikora. That was the one that was the one that was the one that landed at the wrong place. They landed near Sokoto instead of Holloman Air Force base. But then they got finally got a message, and they went back to Holloman and they stayed in orbit, while the other one landed was actually sent to craft here. It was that case, the lonnie's Amora case that convinced j Allen Hynek that maybe this is really happening. Hi, Nick was the one that said it was the most convincing case that on record that exactly the exact it changed his whole view. It did. Exactly. And because it was a huge egg-shaped craft sitting on the ground on legs. And there were two small creatures standing in front of it in white uniforms. And when they realized that they were being observed, they jumped in and took off, they went for why I always thought that that case might have been in experiment with the lunar Lander that they had out there somewhere because it kind of sounded like it. But, but the more I got into it lend the more I realized now, one is more. I saw something from out of this world. That incident occurred on April twenty fourth nineteen sixty four which was the exact date that the aliens had told us they would be coming. That's that's how it all coincided. It was apps. Absolutely right. On target then what kind of propulsion system did they have? And do they have? Well, they had anti-matter technology. We know that. But they also knew how to travel through wormholes, and it was journey that took only took them ten months from one to the one end to the other. So it must have been through it must have been through a wormhole. Well travel is actually instantaneous, but navigating to and from the entrances to the wormholes, take some time, and that's probably how they how they chewed up the other ten the other nine months. I mean, once you go through a wormhole like bending space and time where one end and another end basically touch each other, and you're right. It is instantaneous. Once they do that. Exactly. And we've now learned we've now learned that the, the so-called wormholes I really part of a much larger web that permeates the, the whole solar system, like it's like a spider's web. And once you get into the web, then you're through you go to a Stargate. And you traveled instantaneous when, when you wrote the book secret journey to planet sherpa, which was back in two thousand thirteen I think, how did you come across the story? How did how did this come to you? Well, I spent two hours in a shuttle craft with Bill Ryan and I witnessed any talk about the whole the whole trip now when he when he was talking about it. I mean, did you say Bill? This is way out. Come on. Now he wasn't talking directly to me. He was talking to somebody else. And I was I was listening to it. It's a small small cab. Sure. And he dominated the conversation. I said, you know. It was it was a level of conviction. That convinced me because he definitely he definitely believed it. And it made sense to me, and I started doing the research, right after that trip and he had too much detail to just simply make this up. Exactly. And not only that. But once you go to the website. That was put out there by the DIA such information that it's mind boggling fourteen thousand words in on the website. Which was created by Bill though created website. No. That's where all the information comes from in somehow Carl Sagan, who wrote the book contact was a great astronomer on his own. He was somehow consultant about this. Tell me about that. Yes, he was consulted. Yeah. They, they consulted him because they needed more information about these astronomy, astronomical details. And he he provided the information, but he could never admit to it. Because he was too too much involved with these trying program at Cornell, and he didn't wanna lose his position by making these making such a nutty claim same cell same university. You went to yes. Yes. He went to Cornell. He was the head of the department there. And he was brilliant, brilliant, but. The whole thing was that. The people who wrote who wrote the website needed his needed his input and. But he wrote he never nevertheless, he did write about it in fiction in pixel form. He wrote the book contact. That's right. So that was really his way of releasing the what he knew about the information what he knew about situation because publicly he would always talk about extraterrestrial life out there. But he never admitted publicly that they were here. He kept that to he couldn't, he couldn't really he has had to be trying to department or an Ivy league university. He probably would have lost his job about. That's that's true. It so he, he took the wiser, course and nevertheless, he's still becoming immortal guy. He's, he's really missing his own right now the agency that ran this department was created for this Defense Intelligence Agency was was that. It was created by president Kennedy nineteen sixty two. Okay..

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

01:31 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Back to coast to coast, George Noory with you. We are joined by Len Casten had joined the US airforce aviation cadet program after graduating from Cornell University. And while in the air force, he experienced a UFO encounter that had a profound effect on his life, but it came years later, while working in Washington DC in the sixties, he felt drawn to join the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena, that was nycacc headed up by major Donald ki-ho at the time. Nightcap was the most prestigious organization in the country at the time investigating you affords Len. Welcome back to the program. Are we suppose I nightcap to when I was a kid I got my little certificate card and everything else? But God I loved it. Yeah, it was great organization, KO did a great job. And he was the head of oil also. That's right. Exactly. That's a good point. How have you been? I've been fine. I haven't fine you pretty writing. You've got this new book coming out next year dark fleet. I know I've been working on for about a year. Looking forward to that. We're we might as well book for next year already to get you back. It's kind of a publishing. Tell us a little bit. Let's go back a little bit and talk about planets sherpa because it has a lot to do with what we're going to talk about tonight. What was that program? Absolutely. It was an.

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"donald ki ho" Discussed on Extraterrestrial

Extraterrestrial

04:28 min | 3 years ago

"donald ki ho" Discussed on Extraterrestrial

"They were concerned might be affected by radiation. The idea was that any electromagnetic emissions from potential radiation would send a charge through the compass and cause it to malfunction Betty asks for Barneys, compass. He. Fused couldn't they just drop. It did they really need to take this any further his compass was cheap amount function wouldn't prove anything. She told him to keep his opinions and give her the compass as usual, Betty got her way, she rushed outside to the car and rain was coming down lightly. Running the compass along the side of the car. She found no result. She looked to Barney, and he just shrugged, but then determined she ran to the trunk where she found the strange shiny spots from earlier. She ran the compass along an untouched part of the trunk still no results. So she brought the compass over to one of the shiny spots the needle began to spin wildly bet. He wasn't quite sure what it was yet. But something very strange was going on. And maybe just maybe had something to do with the increase in UFO sightings leading up to nineteen sixty one while the US air force had already established project blue book to examine these cases. A separate civilian organization emerged nightcap, the national investigations committee on aerial phenomena was founded by several former military personnel in a series of engineers and scientists nycacc felt that while the military was willing to acknowledge the UFO siding phenomena and take reports from affected civilians, it rarely took any of these claims seriously. And this was a problem for nightcap members who felt that the sheer volume of sightings throughout the fifties warranted. Further study, this wasn't to say that they were convinced of the existence of aliens, rather, they felt that something whether it be secret American or Russian aircraft a new cosmic phenomenon or new mental disorder was affecting average American citizens in. Essence they were an advocate for those who were affected by UFO's. Those whose stories were left uninvestigated by the military. And yes, some of them were looking to finally answer. The question of whether there is life on other planets. A few days after the incident. Barney and Betty reported their experience to the nearby Pease air force base in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. That report reads mostly as a simple UFO sighting of which had already been many in the area. It's clear that at least for now Barney was keeping his memory of the strange man in the aircraft window to himself. There was no next step with the military. They simply took the report. And that was it, however, Betty became more and more interested in the topic of UFO's. She read a book by major Donald ki-ho a founding member of Nike up on September. Twenty six nineteen sixty one Betty wrote to ki-ho hoping that he might be able to shed some light on her experience. Also around this time just a few days after the UFO citing the couple began to undergo extreme anxiety weeks. After the initial incident Barney and Betty were driving outside of Portsmouth when they approached a stalled car blocking the road. As Barney slowed down. He noticed that Betty was growing agitated in her seat. She was behaving not dissimilar -ly from when they had I been chased by the light in the White Mountains as he continued to slow. Barney saw true panic in Betty's is and she reached for the car door handle trying to escape he blocked her with one hand while steering their car around the roadblock with the other it disturbed Barney to see how his previously calm wife was now so easily reduced to such panic. It disturbed him even more that internally. He was having to hide a similar level of fear and confusion over the White Mountains incident when Bonnie pressed Betty further as to her state of mind, she revealed that she had experienced five straight nights of disturbing dreams, the dreams are so real that. They almost seem like memories when he asked her why she didn't tell him Betty pointed out that he wasn't at home when it happened as he worked the night shift and that she knew he wanted to try and put the entire UFO. Business behind him. She refused to share any further. Details. The hills finally received a response from nightcap and on October.

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