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"So, this hearing just going to say it, it was six hours of chaos. So. So many things like individual moments of pure chaos happened this hearing. But because every member of Congress was only given five minutes to ask the questions in and they moved on, no one could process the moments of cash. So here are some things that happened during this hearing. Jeff. bezos just started eating nuts on his call. That was just a thing that you started snacking for the first ninety minutes. It appears that basis had tech issues was operating in some kind of delay. So we didn't hear from him. They just answer any questions and they'd take a ten minute break Jeff. bezos could fix his computer. Amazing. Jim Jordan, who McKenna pointed out. On the show last week is always sort of chaos element. Try to talk over several members of Congress got yelled to put his mass back on floated. Just elaborate conspiracy theories. was when I say was chaos I. Don't know if there's any other way to describe it. I. Think that led a lot of people to think the hearing itself didn't accomplish its goals, but I think in many ways it did. But Kennedy you WanNa Kinda go through what the committee was trying to accomplish the themes they were pointed at in. How hearing played out, right. So okay. First off. Harkening back to last week I mentioned Jim. Jordan's mountain dew obsession. Definitely drink a handful those throughout the hearing I took notes in screen shots. So, I, called it. But regardless of their pores soda choices, there were a lot of lawmakers who definitely did their homework and I think that was really apparent throughout the entire hearing and when I look at. The picture that they tried to paint I think that became really clear in chairman Sicily's opening statements. So this is the guy who liked. And spearheaded the entire investigation from the beginning, and in those opening statements, he pointed out that yeah Apple Amazon Google facebook. There are different in a lot of ways and they exhibit anticompetitive behaviors potentially allegedly and a lot of different ways. But what they tried to pull together and was a story, and it's really hard to tell a story and five minute fragments. But what happened yesterday was Sicily. Ni, and a lot of the Democrats on the Committee wanted to point out that these companies they become bottlenecks for distribution whether that's information or just like APP stores marketplace's they control what gets distributed in how what was really key to the investigation was how? How they survey competitors. If you have so much control dominance over a market or a specific part of the tech industry, you have a lot of insight into your competitors and you can do a lot of dangerous things with that, and then lastly, after that dominance has gained, it's how they abuse it. Right? How they abuse it to make harder for small businesses in competitors and I think that's exactly what Cellini pointed out in the beginning and I think they did a poor job that storytelling throughout the process. But I think that's also our job. Right is to pull that evidence together and tell that story for them in a way that isn't like. Yes, no yelling at CEOS and like stopping them and I think by getting that in the evidentiary record doing all this questioning, I think they really did achieve their goal in the end. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing that happened sort of next to the hearing was that they released a bunch of documents from these one point, three, million documents of clutch. Over the past year, they released pretty targeted selection documents for every company showing some of this stuff, Casey, I wrote a story about. facebook. INSTAGRAM. My I'm going to frame this email or mark Zuckerberg. Literally one sentence, no period. The Andrew says I need to figure out. I'M GONNA buy instagram like I would love to just be in a place were sending that email like super casually like I got this thing to figure out and it's not like am I gonNa buy the model of the car. It's like instagram. I've been thinking of the text messages where so and so says that Mark Zuckerberg's didn't go destroy mode on instagram ever since they got that up. Case she this to Kevin and right that text was. Yes. Well, it was Kevin. System was talking to an investor and Kevin said to the investor. If we don't sell well, mark, go into destroy mode on us and the investor side probably. Of course, stray casual. So there's just a lot of documents and I think one of the functions of hearing was to get those documents into the official congressional record to make the CEO's account for them. That did not seem very successful to me. Is like a takeaway people should have from this hearing, right? No. I think a lot of people that go into these hearings are expecting like these big Gotcha moments and expecting like a lot of news and all this stuff. But it really, it wasn't oversight hearing. You know it wasn't. They didn't come. They came at this like in a report last earlier this week that they came out at as investigators. They didn't come at it to make a big show horse and pony show out of it, and yet I think the CEO's didn't. The record well enough to the extent that they could have. But there was definitely, I was expecting them to do a lot less evasion and I expected a lot less room probation with the documents, but it's just the process of a Congressional hearing. It's. It's hard to do that in a congressional hearing. But if you put those documents out there, you get the CEO's on the record a little bit who does excite this excites the FTC. J, and that's who can take this next and then it's also congress. You know they can't break up a tech company, but they can regulate going forward and it's those three key themes that I pointed out earlier that they could regulate. You know what I mean. They could legislate to forbid companies from surveying competitors and things like that, and that's where this goes. So the format of the hearing, every member and five minute chunks, it seemed very clear that the Democrats had some sort of coordinated evidentiary strategy, they would start and. And they would say, I, want to read this email to you. What did you mean by this email and then Jeff bezos would say something like I have. No idea is on works. I. Was real pattern that developed was basis really not doing or claiming he definitely knows claiming not really no way Wayne is under the thing they did or they would ask sooner Pichai about the very granular add deal google made by an ad product, and soon I, would say I'll get back to you, which is basically all responses. So the Democrats seemed like they were coordinated to move through their documents. The Republicans seem to be doing something else that also seem coordinated intentional, but what was their focus because that seemed clear split my takeaway from Jim Jordan who? We got into earlier, he he was interviewing. As if they were all Jack Dorsey. And as we talked about like, yeah, he invited Jack Dorsey to testify, but he doesn't sit on the antidote subcommittees. Anything. He says, it just doesn't matter. So it sounded to me as if he prepared questions Jack Dorsey and then it was like, oh, he's not coming I'll ask Tim Cook the same questions. Another completely crazy moment that happened just seen by and five minute chunks is that. Represented Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin Dear Sweet Wisconsin. Definitely. Asked Mark Zuckerberg why the Donald Junior was banned from twitter and mark. Zuckerberg was happening on twitter facebook and there was just like a moment of confused silence, and then he tried to move on and that just sort of floated by in the river of chaos to tell you how much chaos there was kneeling. When you started to tell that story, I thought you were going to tell the story about when Jim Jordan asked him cook if the famous one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, Apple Super Bowl, AD was actually about twenty twenty cancel culture, which is another thing that really happened. I think that's out of context. He didn't ask him. He said clearly, this is. That's definitely what Steve Jobs was thinking IBM is canceled culture and Apple's going to break it with hammer and Jeff. Bezos said that social media is a nuance destruction machine and all this crazy stuff from that. It was a wild will that that particular question when Jim Jordan asked, do you support the cancel culture mov, you could see the CEOS like. 'cause they went in order. He asks them all in order. So First Tim Cook just like basically muttered nothing. Here's like I don't. I support speech whatever. The iphone a keyboard like that was his answer. Sooner per child also, just like muttered, right? He's like Google has always supported free expression Zuckerberg like saw the opportunity and took it and the forces of liberalism I rising I, and then basis was like I cannot. I cannot do in like went for it, and that was just totally insane moment. But it also seems like the Republicans were intentional to try to create their own moments where they were yelling at CEOS about bias on platforms is obviously something cover a. At. You were paying a lot of attention that case you're paying a lot of attention to it. Do you think that was effective in creating because you know there's like a parallel conservative Universe Jim? Jordan was on Tucker. Carlson. Last night like was that effective or d think that the CEO's were able to sort of tamp down on interesting the Tucker Carlson pointed out that Google and other companies are all big donors to Jim Jordan another folks. So that is a weird side, but I think it was actually besides the moment where they mixed up twitter with facebook I. Think this was much more effective off. Off Topic yelling about technology than we usually see like are genuinely issues that like they are upset about that, they could point to largely around like cove nineteen misinformation and they could at least like pick those topics and stick to them rather than kind of asking vague questions about like, why is my phone listening to me? Well, they're definitely asked questions about why are my campaign emails getting filtered by G mail? Yes. I should. I should mention that they have really and they have all of these cases where they ask about extremely specific one off incidents that anyone who has used social media knows happens constantly. And, then turn them into a sinister pattern. But I think they managed to come off as sounding more like they understood what they were talking about the unusual. I think that was a real theme of the hearing, Casey. What did you think of this sort of bias side show that occurred? Well, I mean the the idea that conservative voices are being suppressed is foundational to the conservative movement and is behind the rise of conservative talk radio. It was behind the rise of Fox News. Now that social media exists, we have seen it in this new form, but it is sort of being presented as extra, sinister and worthy of. Some sort of legislative intervention what frustrates me about it is that much more than newspapers or or cable news like Mark Zuckerberg Dorsey. These people benefit hugely from having all possible voices on their platform. None of them is incentivized to drive conservatives off their platform. What they are incentivized to do is have rules that make the place safe and welcoming. So that people want to hang out there and so to the extent that there are issues on the platform, they've largely come because these platforms have rules. And you know you would think that a bunch of free marketeers would realize that the alternative to the system that they're so mad about would be creating a new system, but they don't seem at all interested in doing that. So I just sort of dismissed all of them as charlatans I actually thought it was interesting that the opposite track came up, which was the Stop Hey for profit campaign I kind of wasn't expecting that. The representative Raskin I believe asked facebook. Basically, why aren't you kicking more hate speech off. I forget who else asked like look is the point that you're so big. You don't care about advertiser boycotts I. Mean, you know it will here. Here is a fact that the number one complaint that facebook gets from its users, the thing that users. About. FACEBOOK is that it removes too much content and so if you're running the place, you do have to take these complaints seriously in a way. Right? It might not be you know that you shadow band conservative whatever that even means on social network in twenty twenty. But the fact that you're removing content is really upsetting people. So you can't dismiss that idea entirely, but I still don't feel like we're having that intellectually honest conversation about it. So this was definitely I feel like you can connect the you control distribution. We're GONNA show the abuses of power narrative. We got other. Democrats. With the you control distribution. You're banning conservatives right like I. Think what's Sensenbrenner Again, cups and conservatives are consumers to is that people don't realize that like fifty percent of the population in many ways. But facebook has like famous conservatives working its highest levels Kevin. We last week, we're talking about Kevin Roose keeps sharing the list. List of the most engaged content from crowd tangle. It's all conservative content, and that's so problematic for facebook that they're. They're pushing back with other metrics and graphs of their own, making the facts just aren't there, but it doesn't seem to be convincing. Brett Kevin is being asked to recuse himself from facebook case because he's like best friends with facebook I, AP I wrote a column almost two years ago. Now, arguing that conservatives were trying to redefine. Any conservative identified person having any unwanted outcome on a social network, right? So bias is your name was higher than mine in search results. Bias is used suggested that I follow a Democrat and not a Republican right, and if you take action on your policies that apply to everyone against me a conservative that is biased against conservatives, right. So and by the way I have to say this has been hugely successful because we've talked about it. How many minutes now and the longer that these discussions. Discussions. Go on. They just sort of refi people's minds. The idea that there really is a vast conspiracy to silence conservative speech because he's networks are so big millions of conservatives are having experiences like this every day, and now there is an ideology that is basically a religion for them to attach to, which is although Silicon Valley liberals are out to get. Reason I wanted to talk about the conservative side show, which in many ways was a circus is it feels like the notion that we should be punitive to the companies or mad at the company's. Bipartisan, right we were. We were not looking at a hearing where the Democrats were on the attack. Republicans are saying we love. Apple. We're looking at hearing where they were. Everyone was mad. There are a couple of exceptions to that. There were a couple of I think sensenbrenner and a few other folks were like look we want to be clear. Big is not bad. We just WANNA make sure we're not punishing you for your success, but you were like almost entirely, right? Yeah. I. Mean I. think that's it's important to. To capture that mood like Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg, Tim, Cook soon. Darpa, try they usually get to finish whatever sentence they start saying. Right. They're not used to being interrupted. Their thoughts are usually like you know they get to live in complete sentences and people take them seriously here in five in intervals, they were interrupted almost every time they started speaking to be told that they were wrong that they were filibuster at one point Sicily said stop thinking is for the questions. We can just assume they're all good questions. They. Were getting yelled at and they're going yell that about a variety of things that were pretty specific. So you kind of in your kind of structure here. The first one was controlling distribution. What did you hear as a hearing went on the indicated to that? The committee had a case here? I think the apple's APP store is one thing you know charging thirty percent cuts on certain things is just controlling an APP store. It's the same thing with Amazon's marketplace. They can inherently in control what gets placed and what gets sold and you know if they want to play with search results on Amazon, they can do that, and then on facebook and Google, it's not just like products and software that's information. And it could be information when it's like Google. Google. Stealing yelps, texture views right in putting those in its little info boxes in search queries in facebook if facebook is just like an. Mation, distribution platform and. It can decide Algorithm Mickley. Knowingly. What people get to see this bution was very keen to the committee's hearing yesterday and they pointed out different aspects in which you know each company exhibited that kind of behavior. So the one that will you bring up apple? We wrote about this, say there's much emails. Apples document production is just one hundred and thirty pages of unrelated emails and whatever order see it's like scan through it. So there's a lot of little stories in there. There's one about right to repair and apple realizing it needed to repair. By watching PR people operate by reading their emails journalists. Very entertaining. They're like we had a break like here's our strategy. Here's we're GONNA. That's all in there. You can look at it, but there's a lot about the APP store itself and how they're going to use the mechanics of the APP store to control their platform, and it started at the beginning like the first emails in this production from twenty, ten there. From Phil, Schiller Steve Jobs saying, are we GONNA? Let Amazon Sell Books in the kindle store. Store, it felt like I saw an Amazon ad was hard to watch this hard to watch this ad where a person's reading a book on an iphone in the kindle APP in the pick up an android phone keep reading. He's like literally like it was hard to watch like Schiller's at home like pain what a customer is having an experience that good it really just. Heart and so he's like it was hard to watch. You fours Steve Jobs. They're like we gotta shut it down jobs is the bookstore will be the only bookstore on the APP. Store. That's the way it's going to be everyone's gotta used to it. We know that restricting payments will hurt other things, but that's what we're doing and they started there in two thousand ten and they pulled it out, and then that ladders up into everything that we've seen with, hey, ladders up into the analysis group showing up to. Apple, can pay them to say that there's independent study has revealed. Everybody has a thirty percent cut. It has landed up into Tim Cook, forwarding. He gets a letters from developers that are in this direction. It's like apples breaking my heart and he just like Ford's it. Tim, Cook forwards that email to filter credit eighty, just as thoughts like amazing like they are constantly thinking about the APP store as a mechanism of control for the platform in the leverage and other deals. So the other one was apple is this Amazon one which I have very mixed feelings on saying that this is bad or legal I'm curious for all of your thoughts famously. Did, not have the prime video APP on the Apple TV and all these other places apple, Amazon came to a deal. There's an entire presentation in this production like the slide deck of how the deal is going to work. Apple got to be the preferred seller of its own product. So third parties cancel. Apple. Products, Amazon pages, they got. They have a custom by flow. They've custom product pages, all the stuff in return. Amazon got a lower commission on the APP store and gets to Selatan products which no. No like you can rent a movie from the Amazon APP on the Apple TV, no one else gets to it in one world. This is just pure platform collision, right? Apple cut VIP deal for big companies because it wanted something and you could say this is legal in another world. It's like this is how deals work apple something valuable. Amazon s something valuable and they came to a conclusion wherever made more money and quite frankly the consumer experience platform has got better. How do you read that? Casey? That is good and fair analysis of it. I. Think I did read slightly more scandalous. Tones into it in part because apple would never acknowledge that some developers are more important to it than others even though if you assume that that's true, I think maybe one of the things that's frustrating about it is there is no transparency accountability around which developers get sweetheart deals is that once you hit a certain threshold of revenue will cut your price. Why couldn't they extend that deal to everyone right? Or is it just if we withhold something that seems particularly valuable, we can eventually drag you to the table. Table, which is sort of what seems like happened here. I think in all cases, what I'm always looking for is the accountability, right like and some sense of of equitable treatment of developers and I understand the guys are always going to get the best treatment, but it can that be publicly visible. Can it be acknowledged and there'd be routes for others to achieve that same level of success and treatment, and that I'll just seems missing here. Did you buy Tim Co? He said it twice. It was obviously A. Glimmer, of sympathy for all four CEOS. There is a lot of reporting that they had spent months preparing for this hearing like being grilled there, they'd hire outside law firms. They. Practiced they all clearly had soundbites memorized in none of them. Got To say him because it kept getting interrupted. Tim Cook had this one where he is like if we're the gatekeepers, the gates are open wider than ever. We've gone from five hundred. APPS to one point seven, he said like. A whole speech. and. The thing is there's fierce competition for developers. They don't like our store can do for android the windows. For xbox and PS. Four. Which I was like the idea that adobe is going to be like we don't want to be on the IPAD. Here's PS. Four Photoshop is insanity to me. I'm going to build a spreadsheet. APP. For the five. That's how frustrated with Tim Cook. To that ring. True to you I. Mean, there's no, it does not ring true. There is a, there is a duopoly. In the United States when it comes to smartphones, iphones have majority share in the United States and you can't say, well, you know there's there's a rogue fork of android in Malaysia that you could go develop for if you really wanted to and have that come across as a credible argument to Americans. Right it is. Natural for any monopolist to spend most of its time, arguing that it is much smaller and much less consequential as as you think it is and they're essentially always asking you to ignore what is in front of your face, which is that they are the giant. They are in control. What they say goes, and it doesn't matter which small businesses get hurt along the. The. Way I would point out that the contact and we're gonNA talk about earnings eventually. But the context for that is apple had its biggest third quarter ever this month, their revenues went up eleven percent year over year, they're making obviously making billions of dollars in their services revenue, which is a lot of the narrative around the APP stores increasing that services line. Also went up. I think it was thirteen billion. So you're right. They're very big in their earnings the day after the hearing did nothing. To reduce that impression. I want to switch to Amazon a little bit McKenna. You really focused Amazon was basis first time up there. They came at him a lot about marketplace. How did you think that went I think it went pretty good. I. Think. John Paul specifically was just like killer her questions with breakout star. Yeah. She was just like killer and she's the representative for. SEATTLE. So this is where Amazon is right. So she just like killed it and. And I think there were a couple of instances in the documents and in questioning yesterday that really pulled important things out there was like testimony from one bookseller who was like, yeah. We just can't sell a category of books and we don't know why Amazon doesn't let us do that just like testimony like that or even when it comes to like acquisitions, the ring acquisition especially, I wrote about that today through the documents and how. They said, this is for market position. This is a for technology, your talent or anything. We just bought this and that's something that base said again, yesterday he was just very clear. It's like, yeah, we do buy things market position, which is like so insane just here like the richest person in the world. But like, yeah, we're buying market position. It's just what happens. That's another one I have mixed feelings right, and by the way, people should read McKenna story because those documents have just a very funny breakdown like the pros and cons of buying. Buying ring in many of the cons like what if this turns into nest, which if you're just the verge cast listeners like it's just like the Keyword Bingo, but it's fine to say, we're buying market position like this isn't the best product out there, but it's the category of video. doorbells is not huge, right? So to by the the market leader in video doorbells is maybe the most rational use of the money. What is the problem that you think the committee was trying to show an address sense of we're just going to market position. Pointing out, they can just do whatever they want and how casual it is, and there really isn't. It's really funny to read an email like that, and we could buy it or we could just copy it or are. We could just watch. You know that was one of the emails that base from someone. Those are just three options you know and it's like just pick and choose you know. Pointed out like a lot. Just that email itself really pointed out just how easy it is for them. They used a lot of that time history to talk about copycat behaviors and to talk about just like you know buying up competitors and it just seeing that all in one little e mail having to do with the ring was like really i. think it was really kind of I opening and especially like useful for the committee. So Amazon got hit a lot for the data collection side of it of copying competitors. bezos did not seem to have great answers there. Right. So that's the. The thing they got in trouble with this. There is that Wall Street. Journal article from like April where employees were literally like, yeah. We dip into data and we use that to guide our own private label products and everybody was like Whoa and Amazon basins. Yesterday said, well, we do have a policy that bans that but giant pointed out yesterday. It's like, okay. So what's your enforcement look like you can have the policy, but like if you don't enforce it, then it's like meaningless. And then yesterday I. Think Paul was like, can you give me a yes or no answer? Do you dip into data and he's like I can't I can't give you. Yes or no, and we're just like we're looking into it. The story had anonymous sources. So that isn't very helpful to us. You know what I mean. So that was one of the main things and that Wall Street Journal article and I think it's the same kind of examples in the committee's documents. They point out specific examples like car trunk, organizers of all things. It's like weird little products like Amazon's like this is a little hot. Maybe we should do that. So I, I think. I, think they made a good case yesterday. Yesterday on that. Yeah. I mean bezos brought up that Wall Street Journal, Article himself twice, and he was like, well, your policy against it. But I can't guarantee never happened. Then there is a strange just didn't come across clear I. Think I know what the committee was trying to get at their like US aggregate seller data when there's only three sellers and then only to sellers? Yes, I. Think what they're getting at is when you're down to the aggregate data of two companies, you heard effectively looking at individual data. What is the problem? They're like the I get what you're doing. You're just reducing the denominator to get to one, but like it, why is that particular problem? Right? Well, none of these. Dipping into individual seller data and looking at aggregate data. That's not a legal. There is no law. This is all voluntary of Amazon. So they have a voluntary policy where like we can't do individual seller data, but they say nothing against aggregate and aggregate what you're getting at eight. Here you is. Does the same thing if it's just like some goofy little product they. They bring up pop stock. It's all the time before pop tops in a moment. Right? There's only like one pop. So company like you know pop soggy, it was kind of an innovative product. It's like well, if there's only two of them and use the aggregate data, you you you have everything you need to know you know about that product line looking aggregate. If that's what you decide to qualify as do you as you're looking through the other Amazon documents and other stuff. So anything jump out at you is something the committee was trying to prove or get at. The questioning seemed very focused on. Like are you using the state at a copy products? Are you buying things? You shouldn't buy. There's one question which I did not understand why came up about DMC. Take downs on twitch and Jeff as just had this look of panic in his eyes. He's like I don't know man I bought Wedge because my kids want to. Do something like that was like the side show stuff, but the real focus here, it just seemed like it was definitely in the marketplace, right? Amazon, everyone came at Amazon for the marketplace. That's what everybody knows him as like they have all these little sides. They got rain. They got Alexa Alexa was one thing too. That was kind of interesting. It's like. Are you buying things like ring to put Alexa into and dislike expand your like Titan Ism as like an Internet Internet connected home. Thing and make that more closed off and walled gardening. That was one thing. But no, it was just focusing on how much power they have to kind of change. What happens in the marketplace to kind of decide what companies in what products are able to come up on the first page of results. You know that's also something that they dug into Google and in something that one of those like themes that kind of ties everything together. We should say they all spend a lot of time talking about counterfeit goods, and why is it Amazon removed? Fake stuff from the platform and how much is it profiting off of you know selling pick rolexes? Is it surprising? The whole foods didn't show up at all they're. Like that is a really massive thing. Amazon owns that. Is it moving into a huge new product category? I think whole foods is not an online marketplace, which was the title of the hearing, not that that restricted anybody from doing anything except that, one of the things Amazon says is we have lots of competition from offline marketplaces, right? Brought up kroger a lot I mean, this is the case he's point. They all made. It seem like they were beset at any moment. They could be crushed by the likes of stop and Shop Right? Like I think the point though was really on the. Digital. Experience Consumers have and like I, don't know Ho-. Foods fits. Into that narrative, especially, because it is itself not dominant like they bought it because you needed to grow in their. Good at that at my question for you on the Amazon stuff was when you think about, we talk about two thirty a lot right like you and I in particular spent a lot time to thirty, which regulates with the platform can do with content. There's not really an equivalent of two thirty for goods on store. Right like there's some case is out there saying like you're liable for what what happens on your online store page, but Amazon doesn't have that like second order of like Messi nece around it that twitter and facebook to with two thirty, I. Mean, it gets invoked a lot for marketplace's, but it's way messier. Well, I just wanted to like this question at counterfeits question about ranking the store like they are even more free than any twitter is to to sort tweets algorithm. Algorithm clear to modern like it just their store. Do you think that they're like that Algorithm transparency? Your wire things ranked. Did you catch a sense that that's where the regulation is GonNa go. So much of the conversation around Amazon really felt like it was individuals sellers being wronged for reasons of Amazon being unresponsive or stealing. It's data. So I don't know it didn't. It didn't seem like a really big focus of the hearing, but it is a huge deal. Yeah. The, digital marketplace frame of this, which is where we have talked to. Cellini. That's where he's going right like facebook and Google very digital. They have like they don't do physical goods. Really. Apple is the APP store. It's all digital goods. Amazon is the one where it's. Front to a lot of physical things, and that is the only place where I can see this regulation needing to make some sort of like major meaningful distinction in I. Didn't see it in the hearing, but I was curious of you caught a glimmer of it. I'm not positive that they have to make a huge distinction there like depending on what they come up with because. So much of this is about their companies and whatever product they produced. The issue is more or less whether or not they're being surveilled and unfairly by targeted and crushed by that data surveillance. All right. We have gone for forty minutes. We should take a quick break. I said I wasn't going to go by company and it happens. So we should come back and talk with facebook Ango. We'll be right back. This is advertiser content. When I say utopia what comes to mind. Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the perfect social body. Every Body Matt Place. Everybody happy now while the peacock original series, brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. A concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. I introduced the theory five hundred years ago. 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These are really difficult crazy stressful times, and if you're trying to sort of cope, it could be helpful to find something that gets beyond like doom scrolling and like obsessive worried. But digs into what is really going on underneath the surface, and that's what the weeds is all about I. Matthew Yglesias. Weeds podcast here on the box meeting podcast network. This is podcast for people who really want to understand the policy debates and policy issues that shaping our world. We've seen now more than ever like how relevant policy is to our actual lives, but so much in the news isn't focused on really understanding and explaining detail way if that sounds good to you, join us for the weeds, every Tuesday and Friday to find out what's going on why matters and what we can do about it. You could download the weeds on apple spotify or wherever else you get your podcasts. Tracy. When it comes to facebook I turn to you. FACEBOOK is patience consumer of startups as what we've learned. Yeah. But you said something to me yesterday was interesting, which is everyone else's problems are forward looking and it feels like facebook's problems are actually in the past break for people explain what you mean. Yeah. So when Congress is looking at any trust with respect to these four companies for three of them, it's It's sort of about the marketplaces that their operating right now with facebook, the question is much more about should we have allowed it to buy serum? Should we have allowed it to buy WHATSAPP and most of the antitrust conversation that was around facebook yesterday was all about that. What did Mark Zuckerberg know about Instagram, and when did he know it? We wrote a story based on some documents that the house released yesterday. In which facebook has clearly identified instagram as a competitor. In at least some ways and wants to go after it and knock it off the table, and so that's kind of where the focuses their facebook and Burke did get a lot of other questions yesterday, but it tended to be much more about content moderation and things that don't have a lot to do with antitrust. So there was weird section where they asked the face. Face Research APP in the novel, Vpn? Any kind of got lost well, explain what happened and I'm curious reactions. Yeah. So facebook has a bunch of nifty tech tools to figure out what's trending which APPs or the kids using, and so that can essentially have an early warning system if it needs to consider acquiring something or more likely in these days, go out clone it. and. So Zuckerberg was asked about the way that the company uses these systems and if they are anti competitive I, think you know traditional antitrust law probably would not say copying an APP feature is anti competitive, but could lobby written in the future about it shirt I. Think the one that caught me was I mean, this is what I'm. McKenna's points from earlier is like one of the themes here is, are you so dominant that you can collect data that's unfair and then use that to crush or killer competitors, and definitely bought the Inaba VPN to do it. That's true. Now, when I've asked executives at facebook about this, what they'll say is they don't get surprised anymore. When you have three point, one billion people using your apps around the world. You know what links they're sharing, you know what they're talking about. And so you're not going to need some kind of specialized tool to know that WHATSAPP is really taking off. Right. So they would argue that, yes, these tools were useful to them, but you know at their scale, they know what's popular now, which doesn't really seem like addresses, the problem is reached. The fact that we're so big that we're all knowing is maybe not the defense that they sometimes presented as so here's what I didn't get. I thought, Zuckerberg I want to the instagram. What's about who's issues, but on the facebook research front, the data front, they him about this APP facebook research, which you were giving to teens. They were deploying with an enterprise certificate that story broke apple revoke the certificate, and all of facebook's internal APPs went dark, and this is a scandal story after story about it, they went on for two days. So I can I, don't recall that APP? Just how he you know, he remembers the day that all facebook's internal APPS went down and people couldn't go to the cafeteria. I would agree I found that answer. Extremely, ed? Persuasive. that. Do you think that was like actually strategic for him to be like, I, don't know and then come back later and correct the record I do remember when that happened I. Mean. I really don't know I mean also you know during a six hour hearing, it's also possible that you just you get flustered or you miss here something or or something because. Yeah. As as you say, I'm sure he remembers the day that apple turned off their internal APPS I mean. Honestly. Seems like an opportunity to talk about apple's market power, and the fact that you know a day of work canceled at facebook because apple got mad. But I think most of the CEO's didn't go into yesterday a wanted to pick fights with each other. It was kind of sad that they didn't. I was Kinda hoping that Tim Cook take a shot at soccer burger. Point that the other two APP platforms I was expecting it. It was there. It was. There was all there. So cellini ended and he ended the whole meeting with closing statement. He said, some of these companies didn't get broken out. They all need to get regulated in the off too much power that some of them I. don't these breaking up apple. What sort of break. Right like. The division get sent into the corner thing about what it's done. Right. Does should spin out the finder team I've always wanted to. A clean is always that they want to. They want the APP store to be separate from the IPHONE. Basically, that's the thing I always hear. Can't break I. Think you can write some strong regulations but not playing you're on store, right. But like Elizabeth Warren's point was it's cleaner if it's two companies, but it's still a gigantic remedy that I don't think there's a lot of like like consumer or public opinion is going to walk into an Apple Cup I think you'll radio at marketplace. It seems very clear that we says some of them she broken up he is talking about facebook. I have a twenty percent conference level. He might be talking with Google and Youtube as well. But if he's going to say some of the need to get broken up like it's facebook, did you hear anything yesterday that supported that conclusion or Saudi stocks I? MEAN HE I don't remember which Republican it was, but he was like the Obama FTC looked at this and they said it was minding love. Obama. Right. Like. Why would we go back in time to relook at I? Mean, there is a belief and I mean. Somebody who thinks there could be a lot of benefit in instagram and WHATSAPP being different companies from facebook. And the reason you ask. So many questions about that acquisition as you're making the case that it never should have been approved in the first place, and so now you need to remedy it. So that was actually like the entire thrust of the argument against facebook yesterday. I think, you could probably make just as good a case that Amazon after spin out aws, but lawmakers chose not to make that case. Yeah. I think that also gets into. Politics of the acquisition of the time. To his credit is like nobody knew instagram would actually be a success like we made it a success. It didn't happen by itself. I, don't know if the lawmakers. By award, these guys said, but I don't know that he actually made that case very persuasively. and. Who knows I mean? That's like anything could have happened. Right? Cram could've stayed independent and rapidly grown and overtaken facebook like that's something that could have happened. It could have kind settled into a middle zone like snapchat or twitter seems more likely to me although I think probably would have been bigger than those two but. You're never going to know I mean it is true that facebook gave Mike and Kevin it instagram enormous resources. A lot of the reasons why Mike and Kevin sold was because running tiny startup that's blowing up is absolutely exhausting Mike. Krieger. was dragging his laptop all around San. Francisco. Because the servers were melting at all times of the day whenever Justin Bieber. Posted like the site stopped working and they really we need help. Finding a person who can quickly fix this? So we don't have to like that is the reason that they were entertaining these offers and wanted to sell it. So that is also thing that happened. Do you think that that same kind of argument or approach can apply to what's up? What's up basically did not come up yesterday and all the focus on Instagram, but that's the other one, right? Yeah, and we know weirdly a lot less about that acquisition I. Think it's because people in America just have so much less love for what's APP generally. That, it's never seemed as important. What happened to WHATSAPP as what happens to instagram even though WHATSAPP, is used, you know way more, it probably has way more engagement even than instagram does so I don't know why that didn't come up as often. We know there was a competitive bidding war for that as well. Goule. Wanted it as well. You know Mark Zuckerberg made them an offer, they can't refuse. Do you think everyday Google's we should've spent more money on what's whatsapp like this could have been solved. Should have, but Google has been placed under an ancient curse that prevents them from ever making the right decision about any social product. So it was doomed never to happen. It's fun looking through the documents and watching them casually say they should buy facebook dot com. Yeah, that. Point. That is how they talk like the window into these executives just casually being like we should just this thing or maybe not, or we should just copied ourselves and kill it before it gets any traction like it's repeated over and over again last facebook question. This one is like harder to parse because I. There's a chance, it's October is just joking around but. But. He's in many of these emails. He's like the thing about startups, as you can always buy them, which I think the committee thinks is a smoking gun, right? Like facebook's entire plan is to buy the competition to get the data from wherever they get it to say, oh, man, this apps popping, we just buy it and kill it before it competes with us. I. Think he actually said at one point. That's a joke. Yes, he did and I believe that you know it was two thousand, twelve, right? He was probably still in his mid twenties. At that point, the company was a lot smaller like people were joking around like there's more loose talk when companies are younger and I do think. It was it was part of that. I think the more interesting question becomes. Let's say facebook is telling the truth about everything. Let's say they thought it was going to be a successful acquisition, but they never knew it was gonna big as it became today and they invested in it and it got super big. Okay. Well, now, it's as big as it is. Should they be allowed to keep? Keep it or should they be forced to spend it out and if you're GONNA force them to spin it out. What's the argument that you'RE GONNA. Make about why one question that I have a lot is clearly the referral they're gonNa make, and it seems like if you don't have some other reason, we've heard hints that there's some other reason, the FTC scrutinize this that will eventually be revealed. But what you're saying is the antitrust standard at the time, the Consumer Hartman stand, which is still our standard. Says, you have to prove prices will go up both products for free. You're screwed. Right? There's nothing to review because you're not gonNA prove prove that free products are gonNA get more expensive. I think it's pretty unfair if you change the standard and you go back in time and say you missed that standard. So I think there has to be something else there. Well, what was the standard by which at and T. was broken up? Right? Like presumably at and T. didn't used to be that big, and then it just got really big and then they broke it up at least. That's the thumbnail understanding I have of that break-up. Well, yeah. But then reformed itself. Right. But because of lax antitrust regulation, right? Like it wasn't a naturally occurring phenomenon that all those APPS got back to the other or was that just sort of like inattention to capitalism It's like in the seventies and eighties. This is Tim moves book the cursive bigness in the seventies and eighties Robert Bork I can't talk about Robert on this podcast. Are we doing this right now. Robert was very influential judge Appellate Judge Federal Appellate? Judge. And basically moved the antitrust law to the consumer harm standard as part of a movement called and economics. A whole thing Robert. Bork. Mostly famous because he was not appointed. He was nominated Supreme Court by Reagan but they leaked video tape rental history, and then he didn't get nominated and that is where the expression getting bork's comes from. This is all true Netflix's still has to abide by videotape data privacy act is a whole. This is all true when facebook and Netflix had some partners, Nansen? Partnership. To. Automatically share your net flicks, watch history to facebook. They're like pending the change of this law which we are working on Robert Bork. He haunts us all. I'm sorry, I can't believe this much. Yeah I. think that's just like the law changed in the in the seventies and eighties, the standard change. The conversation right now is a very much about changing it back months and months ago, pre pandemic, we had an economist from I. Think it was Nyu Thomas Philippon came on the show, and he was like look you have this natural ab test going on in the world where the European Union when it formed was like, how do we get an economy like America's? So, we'll just take their competition policies pretty good, and at the same time we changed consumer harm standard. So everything you're seeing the EU is basically our old competition antitrust standard in. You can see how active they are in everything. Here's a new consumer welfare standard. Whether you believe, this is actually a functional Ab test given. The state of both governments is up for debate, but that was his point I thought. It was spare can say.
Watchdog group: Trump campaign improperly masking payments
"President trump's reelection campaign is denying allegations it funneled one hundred seventy million dollars to an advisor's companies to avoid disclosing campaign spending the nonpartisan group campaign legal center filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission describing it as a laundering effort by the trump campaign accused of illegally hiding millions of dollars in spending from public scrutiny by routing the money to firms linked to former campaign manager Brad Parscale a campaign spokesman says there was no wrongdoing and that American made media consultants was formed to cut out the middle man for advertising purchases another firm has been used to pay the salaries of trump insiders including the wife of trump's son Eric and the girlfriend of Donald junior campaign legal center says it leaves voters in the dark about entities working for the trump campaign what they do and how much they're paid Jackie Quinn Washington
At Rushmore, Trump to say protesters seek to 'defame' heroes
"President trump used the independence day holiday to focus on divisions in the United States over monuments and statues that honor Confederate figures and others who benefited from slavery using the backdrop of mount Rushmore I'd like to wish everybody a very happy fourth of July president trump dug in against protesters who've been targeting Confederate statues and other monuments as they push for racial justice the merciless campaign to wipe out our history defame our heroes a ratio values and indoctrinate our children also announcing he's going to create a new national garden of American heroes filled with statues president trump did thank first responders biting the corona virus pandemic but made no mention of the Americans who died nor the announcement his son Donald junior's girlfriend has tested positive for coke at nineteen hi Jackie Quinn
Are Trump's presidency and the Trump Organization intertwined?
"When Donald junior and Eric trump traveled to make international business deals flanked by serious looking dudes with ear pieces and lapel pins it sends a message that the presidency and the trump organization are intertwined the overall cost of secret service protection for the trump family will likely be millions more than it was for Obama's family over four years in addition to the science trips abroad trump spent almost every weekend in Palm Beach melania trump lives full time in New York at least for the rest their son Barron school year some people think Donald junior and Eric trump said pay for their own security detail to lessen the financial burden to US taxpayers and to signal a deeper commitment to separating business from politics but that's not likely to happen in legally it doesn't have to
DC sues Trump inaugural committee, alleging abuse of funds
"The district of Columbia is suing president trump's inaugural committee the suit accuses the committee of abusing nonprofit funds saying it coordinated with the trump family to grossly over paid for event space in the trump international hotel just a few blocks from the White House it alleges committee staffers knew they were paying prices that were grossly above market rate but didn't consider less expensive alternatives the committee is also accused of using nonprofit funds to throw a private party the night of the inauguration for three of trump's children Donald junior of Annika and Eric trump's inaugural committee has maintained its finances were independently audited and all money was spent in accordance with the law Ben Thomas Washington
Trump heads in to 2020 under the shadow of impeachment
"Twenty nineteen the year of the impeachment for president trump becoming just the third U. S. president in history to be impeached impeachment of president trump when did it begin well according to a son Donald junior the impeachment process has been going on since November ninth twenty sixteen because you have a guy they did what he wasn't supposed to do he took on the establishment and he won but if some critics started honoring the I word during the molar investigation amid discussions over whether the president obstructed justice the push to get him out of office really xcelerated when a whistle blower went public about Mr trump's July phone conversation with the president of Ukraine the anonymous complaint charged that the president asked Ukraine's president to investigate former vice president Joe Biden and his son Mr trump defended himself I
A look back at Trump's impeachment process
"It was undoubtedly a big year of news but let's start with impeachment certainly the biggest story here in Washington article one is adopted article two is adopted the Democrat controlled house voted December eighteenth to impeach president trump sending the case to the Senate for a trial correspondent Stephen Portnoy looks back the impeachment of president trump when did it begin well according to his son Donald junior the impeachment process has been going on since November ninth twenty sixteen because you have a guy they did what he wasn't supposed to do he took on the establishment and he won but if some critics started uttering the I word during the molar investigation amid discussions over whether the president obstructed justice the push to get him out of office really xcelerated when a whistle blower went public about Mr trump's July phone conversation with the president of Ukraine the anonymous complaint charge that the president asked Ukraine's president to investigate former vice president Joe Biden and his son Mr trump defended himself I had a conversation
"donald junior" Discussed on WRVA
"Book number one times bestseller is on freedom of the press, what the media's done to destroy conservatism and has a great rate with facts and foibles everywhere. One last stop before I continue with the calls met Romney was a clown. He was a full and twenty twelve the ability to run a campaign that might defeat a Barack Hussein Obama failed to do so because he's a clown when Mitt Romney said last night that the Mahler report does not show obstruction. And I don't think impeachments the right way to go book. At, of course, there was no Russian collusion delusion except by Hillary. And of course there was no obstruction because they report was written by Andrew Weisman is a Clinton Easter, but Mitt Romney. He went on to say last night in an event in Utah, that he would likely decline support the president and twenty twenty as if has endorsement means a damn thing, which it does not Mitt Romney was in trouble running for the United States, Senate months ahead of his election. So he got a hold of the president. And by the way of spoken to the president of Madame few times supposed to play golf, whether a mar-a-lago with, with Russia and Hannity and Sean Compton, but it didn't materialize after Christmas because of the government shutdown about four deploying with him after Christmas. He's a great guy Donald junior. Eric the family. Great family Mitt Romney wanted his support, and their primary become US Senator from Utah. And so there was a little bit of a history between Romney, of course, Romney gave that horrible speech during the primary season to try to scuttle the ability of the Republican nominee to win the presidency, which would give it to Hillary Clinton. Now, there's a wise choice, but he was in trouble in the primary. So we got a hold of the president to say, can you give me a hand and twenty eight teen because Mavin difficulty here? Trump's great guy. So he said, sure, so we made some calls to some of the possible Republican nominees Republican candidates, my run against mitt. Probably couldn't abate him but they might have marked up a little bit. So they backed away because Trump and then Trump endorsed him and the general election in Utah in two thousand eighteen sent letters out appeared on some radio ads vote for Mitt Romney vote for Mitt Romney Mitt Romney caused the president and afterwards. And thanks him for that. And this was after in twenty seventeen on Romney shows up in New Jersey to beg. Trump to make him secretary of state. So, you know, fortunately, he did not thought he picks a terrible choice as good when right now but nonetheless Romney after the election sucked up to Trump asked his help when twenty eighteen in the primary, he gave it to help raise money, twenty eight teen. So all those favors returned by Mitt Romney by saying he made a Klein to support Donald J Trump for president in twenty twenty explaining quote, I would not be surprised if I stay out of the endorsements. So this was a person and in great name mit- Romney. Who had the ability, the capabilities of running against Barack Hussein Obama to stop his presidency, and mid stroke, and twenty failed to do so then in two thousand sixteen begs Trump for secretary state possession. Fortunately, didn't give it to them. Then when it was an electoral trouble in twenty eighteen went to Trump Trump did everything it could to get him elected. And he did he got elected now. Here we are in twenty nineteen getting ready for seventeen months from now and Mitt Romney saying he may not endorse. Trump. Frankly, Carlson financial. We were talking with Carl Carlson the other day. This man is absolutely brilliant. He's helping so many people get ready for. And then you can fill in the blank. A lot of times these. Helping people get ready for retirement. Well he is helping some people get ready for retirement. He's helping other people manage their wealth. He's helping other people get ready to take care of other family members. You know, for those of us that have special needs kids, especially you gotta think about all of that, Carl is the guy that has dedicated his entire life to financial services. Then he focuses in a couple of areas. We are. So lucky to have him here in Richmond. If you're thinking about tax planning with the new year. Everybody's thinking about new tax implications. Maybe you've changed jobs. Maybe you're going in a slightly different direction. Maybe you've got you've got an IRA or a 4._0._1._K that you're looking to roll over. He will help you with that planning that is state life insurance. Everybody's got to have some sort of life insurance in place, mortgages, mortgages are on most people think, oh, I can't wait to pay off the mortgage and sometime. Believe it or not. It's a good thing to have a mortgage. I could go on and on and on. But I will tell you that on a pretty regular basis, he does these wonderful wine and wisdom, eventually get together with him. There's dinner, there's drinks and little little presentational. What's going on currently in the financial world? He's right here in the West End twin hickory twin hickory and knuckles by by Innsbruck..
"donald junior" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Monocle Daily
"But polls are showing that the American public really don't think that's a huge issue at the moment. Because from what we know that Donald Trump, if you did this didn't know he was violating the campaign finance through. So so at the moment to feeding this would not be enough to justify politically impeachment. Now, of course, we don't know what the modern investigation is going to uncover. And but at the moment, the facts are that there's been no proof collusion by the Trump administration yet as we know of so until we get more information about that. I think the Democrats feel that don't have the public support yet to go after Mr. Trump for impeachment. And of course, the Republicans are in control of the sadness at so you would have to have a certain amount of Republicans who would break with their president. But as we say, we don't know what these investigators are going to cover. Yes. As you say if. If there's more incriminating information, well, then I think the case would get stronger at to impeach President Trump. So is it your sense than that? If the Democrats had treading carefully around the idea of impeachment, and you're you're caught right Jerry Nadler has been at pains to say that's exactly what they're doing likely to be equally as restrained when dealing with such obese -ly potent trigger points, as for example, sending subpoenas to Donald junior and Eric Trump. Well, I think significantly on that issue it significant that they did not subpoena advantage from for example. She is after all working in the west wing with the president. So there is a sense. Are they doing that perhaps because they see that the optics of questioning the presence older publicly would Nakal with the American public perhaps. So there is a Senator holding back L little bit. Also, Nancy Pelosi has been very quiet on this issue during the midterm election. She warned her because she warned her Democrats to not talk about impeachment on the campaign trail instead took. Things like health care other issues that are affecting Americans. So she has been very quiet on this. And she has avoided speaking..
"donald junior" Discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"Well, the trust in this case is that supposedly independent entity that President Donald Trump signed over all his business interests to after he was sworn in as president. That's the entity a month after he was sworn in that started systematically paying Michael Cohen for having made that illegal payoff during the campaign. That's where the money came from and who controls the trust that was making these payments. While the president says, the trust is now run by these guys, his eldest sons, Donald junior, and Eric Trump president, put his business interests in Trump, put his sons in charge of it. It is the trust that paid Cohen back for his balloon illegal payments during the campaign. Again from the from the criminal information, quote, executive one forwarded that Email to another employee at the company stating, please pay from the trust. Eric Don Jr. run the trust. So the president's personal lawyer yesterday in federal court directly implicated the president himself in at least two felonies to which Michael Cohen himself has now pled guilty. Last night on CNN, Michael Cohen's lawyer. Lanny Davis suggested that Michael Cohen also has information to share that would be of interest to prosecutors that relates to the Trump foundation. The charity today that made something happened in the world. The people who are investigating the Trump foundation as a potential criminal matter subpoenaed, Michael Cohen to give them whatever testimony he's got about the Trump foundation. He apparently sprinted right over. In addition last night, Coen's lawyer Lanny Davis told us here on this show that Michael Cohen also has information about the president potentially having advanced notice of the criminal hacking that happened during the campaign in which Russian government hackers attacked Democratic Party computers to recap, Vic, and steal information that was used to help Trump win the election. We don't know exactly what Lanny Davis meant by that very carefully worded statement that he made on this show last night. But today there has been a lot of focus on this reference on page sixteen of the criminal information against Cohen in which prosecutors say that when Michael Cohen got his reimbursement from the Trump organization from a business for these expenses he had made during the campaign, the expenses of these. The payoff which he now admits was an illegal felonious expenditure when he got reimbursement for that for the legal payoff, he also asked the Trump organization to pay him back. Fifty thousand dollars for quote tech services. And prosecutors, say in the criminal information that fifty thousand dollar claim, quote, in fact, Cohen had solicited from a technology company during an in connection with the campaign. Michael Cohen supposedly wasn't part of the campaign at all. So under what circumstances would he have been spending a nice round, fifty thousand dollars on something tech related. That in fact was for the campaign that he would later seek reimbursement from reimbursement for from the Trump organization. He sought that reimbursement for that fifty thousand dollars in tech expenditures, right alongside the reimbursement. He was already getting from them for his illegal cash payoff to stormy Daniels, the one that he's now going to do prison time for. We don't know that fifty thousand dollars was that Michael Cohen laid out to benefit the campaign and then he was paid back for by the Trump organization. We don't know what that was, but I will note for the record. Because you should note this is out there that what Michael Cohen is accused of in the Steele, dossier is meeting with Kremlin representatives in August and September two thousand sixteen to discuss, quote, deniable, cash payments to operatives who were participating in the anti-clinton hacking campaign organized by the Russian government quote, according to redacted the agenda comprised questions on how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers who had worked in Europe under Kremlin direction against the Clinton campaign and various contingencies for covering up those operations..
Hope Hicks spotted boarding Air Force One ahead of Trump rally
"Oh, this isn't tangle. So there you have Donald Trump at a rally just you know, recently at a rally, however, the story here and we're going to have a grand time today. Talking about how all things are connected is co picks was on Air Force One before that rally, hope Hicks. John was a witness called in to talk to Robert Muller a. what was she doing? And what did she say? Because the morning after suddenly all we hear is a walking back of what happened in that Trump Tower meeting. I think that we have to look objectively at what's happened recently to figure out where we're going, and Trump is been described by insiders in the press. Recently as furious and frustrated in fearful. And at the same time, he suddenly done a complete one eighty on the infamous Trump Tower meeting involving his senior campaign staff Manafort his son-in-law. And of course his son Donald junior meeting with five Russians and all along President Trump had a line about that that this was an innocent meeting having to adoptions. It's all we ever are. Suddenly everything's changed and it all seems to coincide with the Muller investigation. Moving on instruction of Justice stories that Trump is worried about his son, possibly being indicted over this thing. And all of a sudden there is hope Hicks on Air Force. One I now like Twitter just blew up and so it should and lots of speculation elsewhere and she was a witness, as we mentioned, what was she doing there. We throw in was she wired, but there's a lot of there's also a lot of speculation is, you know, is she really going to walk onto Air Force One and have a conversation about covering things up or hiding or or this without Robert Muller knowing you just referenced the switch around? I'm just gonna read it as you say, Donald Trump was always said that that meeting was about adoptions. That was what the crafting was as we know on Air Force One. Well, he brings it up this morning. Ties it in with fake news reporting and says, quote, this was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal done all the time in politics. It went nowhere. I did not know about it while John. We know I'm in this this game. I mean, it's a mess. We know Michael Cohen is said yes, he did know about it. Then he's got ho ho picks on Air Force One. There's a real sense that there may be an attempt. Here to get out in the head of something. Yes. And the my suspicion would bay that the president asked ho picks to travel with him on the plane to ineffective. Find out what she's told investigators about the whole Trump Tower meeting.
"donald junior" Discussed on 10 10 WINS
"Because usually I have pepper spray or something but I also like to travel and I didn't have The pepper spray army at the moment she was able, to break free and run away the man ran off as well police, have released surveillance tape but you can see ten. Wins dot com anybody with info last call crime stoppers President Trump's reportedly concerned about his son's. Legal exposure in the? Russian election probe and he's tweeting about. The report, CNN says the president's been worried for. Month could reaches family potentially son-in-law Jared Kushner but is now concerned about son Donald junior and White House sources say the concern is one of the. Reasons that the. President has stepped up, his public attacks on special counsel, Robert Muller in recent, weeks correspondence air Westwood. Says the issue is Donald Trump junior public statements. On that controversial Trump Tower, meeting with Russians and what the president's former fixer is saying now Michael Cohen Trump's former lawyers prepared. To testify to special counsel. Robert Muller that Trump did have advanced knowledge of that Trump Tower meeting which of course would contradict what. The president son Donald Trump junior has already told congressional investigators close to Trump junior says that he's not concerned did ya thing, wrong the president tweeting about all of this this morning Saying the reports a complete fabrication the tent the, Trump Tower session what's quoting here a meeting to. Get information on an opponent totally. Legal and done all the, time in politics he also hey tweeted about. The media railed against the, special counsel probe and talked up his tariffs in his morning tweet storm eighty four degrees, in fair we're going up to. Ninety in midtown that the real fields already ninety seven wins news time eleven, twenty, five how many times has it, happened, you drive away from.
Prince Harry Carries on Princess Diana's Legacy by Announcing AIDS Initiative With Elton John
"Doesn't come as much of a surprise for b twelve riders that. It's this year's recipient of this Lepe award, for the city's most unreliable bus the award is handed out every year by, commuter advocate groups transit center and the straphangers campaign Jackie Cohen is, campaign, coordinator for the straphangers speed twelve in Brooklyn brunches about twenty one point, four percent of the time or, every one in five buses approximately. Comes bunched and so what that means is that buses are. Not on schedule it's one buses. Come together in a heard the pokey award for the city's slowest bus goes to. The, m forty two which averages three point two miles an hour. On, forty second street You might not wanna wait much longer to pick up that. I've vonda Trump dress that you've had your eye on the first. Daughters clothing brand is folding and it staff, is being laid off retailers including Nordstrom Hudson's bay have stopped selling vodka Trump, products over the past year and a half citing their poor performance Some locals near Aberdeen Scotland weren't too keen on the initial. Development of the Trump organizations golf somebody in their midst and now the Trump family is ready to move ahead with phase. To the woman who didn't ninety six million dollar investment plan for the Aberdeen complex includes fifty cottages sports sportscenter and equestrian. Facilities the first phase had included a championship golf. Course clubhouse and, hotel the controversial development which was approved. In twenty eight, has been accused of failing to. Deliver on promises of investment and employment but the Trump, organization says the next face who support. Nearly, two thousand jobs, during construction and some three hundred permanent positions Eric Trump who leads the business with his brother Donald junior says the timing is now. Right for us that's, correspondent Charles David desma seaside area near Athens, Greece is. No summer retreat this year due to wildfires they've claimed at least seventy four lives now one hundred eighty Seven others are. Being, treated at hospitals Let's run second. International, aids conference is underway in Amsterdam Elton John is there Charlene's the're on is taking part so is Prince Harry whose mother Princess Diana was active in the fight against aids At a moments, when the progress we have. Full so, hopeful is at risk from dangerous complacency prince and Elton John are joining forces to launch the men star coalition the organization will target HIV infections in men especially, in sub. Saharan Africa Harry says the, root of the problem is the lack. Of awareness of HIV prevention among young men wins. News time to ten traffic and AccuWeather in one minute on ten.
After Rescue, Soccer Boys Pray for Protection at Thai temple
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Canadian TV writer threatens Donald Trump Jr.'s 4-year-old daughter: 'We're coming for Chloe'
"Guess we should be thankful for small favors but why did it take so long sessions as yang peter struck security clearance you know we got paul manafort has not been found guilty of any crime and he's in jail in solitary confinement he hasn't had a trial let alone been found guilty of anything is not being accused of any violent crime he's not part of the mob he's not likely to take out a hit on somebody you know i thought we save those tactics for the for violent felons you know by a landslide margin by the way voters blame illegals for the family separation fiasco you can also blame congress it's their law and then you got this guy in canada so called comedy writer on top of everything with barron trump on top of all the attacks against milania trump the regular attacks against the vodka trump well now they're attacking donald juniors four year old daughter this is a this is tv in canada don't worry we're coming for chloe to okay finally the tweet was deleted actor james would snapped a screen shot and thankfully notified the secret service and donald trump junior re tweeted both of james woods messages condemning this guy who said this is exactly the kind of violence that has been inspired by peter fonda tweet the individual making this suggestive terrorist threat against their granddaughter of the president is a tv writer yeah and the the rights which sadly makes sense in today's twisted world of hollywood then he had to send out an apology is an apology enough i don't know if it's.
ABC Halts Show’s FYC Emmy Campaign After Cancellation
"Ward is that abc is thinking about continuing roseanne only our jim roope explains without her presence and with a title change the question since the show was cancelled in the wake of a tweet by roseanne barr that compared valerie jarrett to ape has been could a show go on without her apparently abc is considering it building a new show around the current characters and actors and calling it well that's unclear but the show being considered reportedly focuses on sara gilbert's character darlene first lady melania trump stayed behind while the president left on the weekend getaway making it twenty two days since she last appeared in public president boarded the presidential helicopter with his daughters and vodka and tiffany is son donald junior and soninlaw jared kushner mrs trump had recently been in the hospital where she was treated for a kidney condition i'm bought don't miss the.
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"Letter president helping the brakes on what may be accomplished at the summit if anything he says the relationship between the us and north korea is already improving but denuclearizing the peninsula will be a process i never said it goes in one meeting i think it's going to be a process does your political insights from abc news i'm janine norman in washington melania trump stayed behind while the president left on a weekend getaway friday making it twenty two days since she last appeared in public president donald trump board of the presidential helicopter friday afternoon with his daughter ivanka and tiffany oldest son donald junior and soninlaw jared kushner the white house had said earlier friday that she would skip this trip but gave no official reason a lawyer tapped to lead a task force of the environmental protection agency overseeing cleanups of the nation's most polluted places worked until recently for top chemical and plastics manufacturer potentially responsible for creating some of those toxic sites stephen d cook has been named as the new chair of the superfund task force which epa administrator scott pruitt created last year to revamp how the agencies oversee cleanups komo aaa traffic every ten minutes on the fours woman senior woolley state route nine northbound and southbound at mosier road still working collision blocking the right lane new problem on the olympic peninsula pleasant harbour brennan area southbound us one oh one year black point road an accident traffic reduced to a single lane in each direction and in seattle of course we have the big project i five and that is closing things down on five from the west seattle bridge northbound into downtown and otherwise looking pretty good around the area of.
"donald junior" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Seventeen minutes later donald trump junior response thanks rob i appreciate that i'm on the road at the moment but perhaps i just speak to 'em and i seems we have some time if it's what you say i love it especially later in the summer could we do a call first thing next week when i'm back best don if it's what you say i love it if it's what you say love it especially later in the summer summer two thousand sixteen just months before the actual election no took seventeen minutes for done to get that email and respond to the offer of information that is described as very high level and sensitive and part of russia and government support for donald trump no hesitation here and this is the beginning of what is going to be this infamous meeting on june ninth at trump tower and here's who's going to the meeting we know from donald juniors e mail that on the trump camp side it's going to be donald junior jared kushner and paul manafort rob goldstone is there as well there's the russian lawyer natalya vessel needs sky plus two other russians and one georgian american the main person on the russian side is natalia vessel needs she's actually not a russian government lawyer she's not the crown prosecutor like rob goldstone said in that email to done junior she did used to work for the moscow prosecutor's office at the time of the meeting june two thousand sixteen she was working to get rid of us sanctions on russia some of which were put in place by something called the magnitsky act in retaliation for those sanctions russia had banned americans from adopting russian orphans so this meeting on the twenty fifth floor of trump tower donald trump's personal offices just one floor above so they show up they have a brief discussion about what the russians believe is fairly damning information about democratic campaign donors don jr later tells his version of the story on fox news to sean hannity hey some dnc donors may have done something in russia and they didn't pay taxes i what does this have to do with anything especially the way that it's been portrayed is that basically kushner wasn't paying attention paul manafort was sitting there on his phone typing and donald junior says that he basically didn't understand what was going on and what.
"donald junior" Discussed on WJR 760
"Uh trump yep well at one time you're the chief strategist and everything seems to be honky dory with these individuals and boy has it turned a bannon his at book uh that is going to be released shortly where he says the meeting uh with the uh some individuals was treasonous site between donald junior and a couple of other people an a russian was treason among other things on patriotic uh now trump is just unloading on steve bannon saying he had absolutely nothing to do with his victory uh and uh you know it's crazy so why didn't steve bannon decide to do that wondering what's going on behind the scenes well uh it looks like bannon decided that uh one of two things one a i don't know the timing of when he did the interview with his author you know bannon was nettie shown the door yes that is important did uh did did bannon have an end for whoever uh showed him the door of the white house um and decided to get even or was he having those up battles behind the scenes that we didn't know about at the time he spoke with the author or was he simply honestly giving his opinion but here's the situation uh now all of a sudden the eyebrows are raised because throughout this russian investigation the trump administration of course she's then uh very forceful look nothing wrong went down nothing improper took place as a waste of time a now all have determined that were well is this is what they've been saying okay i'm just saying this from the trump administration okay uh but one you have your former chief strategist put in writing that.
"donald junior" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"You're listening to abc lopate on may twenty and 939 wnyc from europe yep the the atlantic published in article this monday that detailed exchanges reneged donald trump junior and wikileaks during the 2016 election campaign the american intelligence committee that wikileaks was chosen by the russian government to disseminate emails from the clinton campaign that they had hacked and that donald trump juniors cooperation had been actively sought joining us now is journalist and author luke harding whose latest book is collusion secret meetings dirty money and how russia helped donald trump win published by vintage number has brought him back to our show welcome back and you wrote this book before of the the direct messages or deums between donald junior and wikileaks were released a wide also surprised by that story narrow issued on a previous they're gone on julian assange and unarmed pretty well i went with him in 2010 on on on lete's your estate of common cables and let's just say that dg very loose relationship with the truth center at when he says no collusion nothing to with russia not give the trump campaign i was tipped to that with a pinch of salt whom when you're writing that book did you have any sense of links between wikileaks and russian intelligence festival is the us intelligence assessment john which said unequivocally in january of this year visit jake helix white kind of cutouts and that these were kremlin hackers who are busting into democratic duty service taking stuff and giving it to wikileaks into julian uh for reasons of plausible deniability say it was the kind of perfect route but assange claimed to win with eulex began that wikileaks was about nickel uh uh uh uh down powerful people if they are working in the service of the russian government grow window abandoned their original mission well i mean i i kind of pretty can obtain where we can exert michael all ponda is what we said of fat apps every so often julian sends vicious tweet mainieri asked to his foreman as saying i'm human being and that means stuff west than that and i think the problem is without getting into kosovo psychology is that the jews and views the world and kind of manatee interns and the.
"donald junior" Discussed on WDRC
"Anthony scaramucci is out as communications director escort it out just ten days after being named communications director scare a gooch you will no longer served the administration in any capacity white house spokeswoman sarah hunt could be sender suggested the president and scaramucci both felt the administration needs a clean slate look we also the pleasure of the president but i think that this was a mutually agreed conversation that took place between several people scherbo cheese departure comes on the same day john kelly was sworn in as the new white house chief of staff ironically stepping into a vacancy that scaramucci played at least some role in creating hans is john tucker anew washington post story tonight citing unnamed sources claims president trump told his eldest son donald junior want to say about that meeting with a russian lawyer in june of last year and it wasn't what actually have and the question for the president is going to be wait a second is this part of a larger pattern of firing james call me doing other things that made it at least look like heated want the truth to come out the facts the come out on russia of course the present would reject that narrative uh but that's the case the washington post is trying to make tonight i can tell you i just welcome over gulf one of the president's top advisers outside the white house who told me after reading this washington post story this advisor said this is a problem because it's making it look like the president directed the misleading statement and was wore involved in it that we knew before fox is henry at the white house the post reports president trump told his son to say the meeting had nothing to do with his campaign and was strictly about russian adoptions the president's aides reportedly advised donald junior to tell the truth the president sending congratulations to los angeles that city's mayor thanking him for helping the city land the twenty 28 summer olympics fox.
"donald junior" Discussed on WSB-AM
"To ease the tension wsb news time is four thirty the three full weather and traffic updates about three minutes away congressman adam schiff says he'll have plenty of questions for white house adviser and president trump's soninlaw jared kushner when he appears before the house intelligence committee this week twelve asleep the meeting with donald junior and the uh several russians that we now know were in that meeting as well as that alleged conversation he had with ambassedor about setting up a secret back channel to russia congressman schiff tells cbs face the nation special counsel robert miller has every right to look into the president finances over allegations the russians have been laundering much money to the trump organization kushner reach privately today with the senate intelligence committee before meeting with house members tomorrow also making news this morning senate republicans get back to work this week looking for common ground on health care replacement plan but wsb jamie dupree notes there's no set date for debating a bill and it's not even gnome with the bill would include the ball georgia congressman gerry louder milk says the house is ready to start its fiveweek august break i don't think we need to be sitting here just waiting on the senate to do whatever they need to do but we will be on call and if they pass something were coming right back a sets is time dooley's debating healthcare plan claiming it will be lightyears better than the current system the new white house communications director says it's time hit the reset button and stop the leaks making their way to the press the president super upset about the league's it's unprofessional and so you're asking me what the first steps are that's going to be one of my first steps anthony scare emojis a television commentator harvard law grad of wall street financier he tells fox news.
"donald junior" Discussed on BizTalk Radio
"Just press the button there or go twitter gary cop on you can email me just be nice read are commentary articles we post charts of they knew they all that stuff that i if you wanna here we're too would like to help you to press the money metre putt press to subscribe but wanna notes pressed webcast but if you want to get the latest webcast of whatever else comes to mind well now it turns out there was russian lobbyist that the donald junior meeting a russian spy at the donald junior meeting and remember what i have told you here we do not care about who we don't kill the trumps i i've never met them a obviously the brilliant when it comes to real estate broker when it comes to the gulf i love that they're philanthropic i know eric trump has something big uh they've done a lot of good but the continuation of what i'm considering to be a horror show as an administration continues they do not know how to run a presidential administration and they're get whole in more lives first there were two people at this meeting than this three that this for now there's eight and again i don't care about the trump cited care about the obamas personally i care about the ability get policy done it how old are you going to get policy done with a gouda not good would we gotta deal with all the rest of this crap and as i have told you here we don't have bias except the policy barack obama was a horror show an absolute horror show george bush was a horror show george bush five trillion at that barack obama nine trillion that with the point now that we the taxpayer off the hook we pay one hundred somewhat billion dollars just pay the interest down on the deaths and i was costing fingers in hopes that with the republicans having the house the senate the white house governorships state houses you nemeth with the socialist party odnin the lose bags that we get things done and nothing's get.
"donald junior" Discussed on AM 870 The Answer
"Were talking a lot about to the russia collusion story the non story and everything else but ratios how little attention is being given to all the the mischief that the democrat party had done before they're all focused on the the trump administration because of course are so excited about the possibility of suggesting that there was some sort of failures conduct going on with the trump administration but of course there's nothing there it's it's zero it's been per how many months now eight months since they've accused the trump administration of somehow colluding with the russian government and also that the the russian government was trying to influence the election in such there's literally no evidence whatsoever even this donald junior email exchanged with this russian lawyer where's the collusion tell me how that played doubt were just i wanna know the collusion that you're talking about what did they conspired to do together to hurt hillary clinton or otherwise and pas is it such a terrible thing that if the disruption lawyer this woman had some dirt on hillary clinton and gave it to donald trump and they found out about somehow and somehow she she acquired it i don't know through the regular sources and then gave it to donald trump jr why would that be such a bad thing i i just i'm curious doesn't matter because she is a russian national that that somehow that that's not fair game him but how was it for example the hillary obtained that video the bush video in that open access for the oh he said those very unfortunate comments about women remember that it was an only october one in that video had come to them somehow by a russian or a chinese person or whatever would that be would hillary then say listen i can't i mean the sources such it comes from a different country so therefore not using come on of course she's going to use all right wants to tell you a little bit more about this story about linda sarsour this is the woman as you may recall who did that whole woman's march shortly after the election of donald trump ran this is a significant story because it turns out she's very very pro muslim her our agenda is promoslem her agenda is of course very anti israel an anti america as well and let's use entitled to initiate whenever health else she's interested but we we know her primary motivation is to advance.
"donald junior" Discussed on WDRC
"The search for four young men missing in bucks county pennsylvania since last friday is apparently over we have bound human remains in at approximately twelve and a half void the common graves district attorney matthew one trump speaking within the last hour announcing they've also identified one of the bodies says one of the missing men there are additional remains him that grave yet to be identified the grave discovered in a sprawling farm north of philadelphia 20yearold cosmo denardo the son of the property's owners arrested wednesday on charges he tried to sell one of the missing man's car are is being held on five billion dollars bail the prosecutor says he's preparing murder charges president trump on his way back to europe you'll meet with french president emmanuel macron and take part in best deal day celebrations before leaving late wednesday the president defending his meeting two weeks ago with his russian counterpart in an interview with cbn's this 700 club present in from said his meeting with vladimir putin was positive i think we get along very very well uh we're a tremendously powerful nuclear power and so were they assured it doesn't make sense not to have some kind of a relationship the president also said he believes that putin would have preferred hillary clinton as president because she he said would be weaker on the military fox's john decker the white house and the president has told the reuters news service he learned only a few days ago of his sons meeting with a russian lawyer who was said to have potentially damaging information on the hillary clinton campaign president says he doesn't blame his son donald junior for taking that meeting to democrat congressman filed articles of impeachment california congressman brad sherman charging the president obstructed justice by firing fbi director james comey although schurbon admits there's little chance for anything to come up with fox news.
"donald junior" Discussed on 1410 WDOV
"Or announcing they've also identified one of the bodies says one of the missing men there are additional remains in that grave yet to be identified the grave discovered in a sprawling farm north of philadelphia 20yearold cosmo denardo the son of the property's owners arrested wednesday on charges he tried to sell one of the missing man's car being held on five billion dollars bail the prosecutor says he's preparing murder charges president trump on his way back to europe you'll meet with french president emmanuel macron and say part in best steel day celebrations before leaving late wednesday the president defending his meeting two weeks ago with his russian counterpart in an interview with cbn's this 700 club president trump said his meeting with vladimir putin was positive i think we get along very very well we're a tremendously powerful nuclear power and sewer they assure it doesn't make sense not to have some kind of a relationship the president also said he believes that putin would have preferred hillary clinton as president because she he said would be weaker on the military fox's john decker the white house and the president has told the reuters news service he learned only a few days ago of his sons meeting with a russian lawyer who was said to have potentially damaging information on the hillary clinton campaign president says he doesn't blame his son donald junior for taking the meeting to democrat congressman filed articles of impeachment california congressman bride sherman charging the president obstructed justice by firing fbi director james comey although sherman admits there's little chance for anything to come of fox news.
"donald junior" Discussed on WBSM 1420
"We got all parts of rich ali it every day amphitheater where you were all under oil right everything at all legal right i heard nothing why didn't talk about it you have awarded up i the way i got ta be done all one i think all you know what i think scott i think that was that was the last june june of two thousand sixteen and he had said that it was it was right around the same time as the meeting with donald junior and the jared kushner and paul manafort and they're so they're they're making it out the in suggesting that perhaps he was counting on getting a lot of dirt at the meeting in the that's why he had promoted the press conference i think that's what it's about i think it's i don't think that i don't think he said that yesterday i think he said at a year ago a more than a year ago now on jia made it a rare would you like it jiang or egypt y'all with it but why why are no by trump would always say crappy low wish airline air say the budget wall i those are willing good question scott i mean uh you know you're for may whereas susan collins she's too busy y you know posturing on how she's going to vote against the senate repeal of obamacare although you know any way to iraq live and you ain't sheragha what what what i feel like every day yes she'll it yes you you know you know it's it's it is funny that the you know the again just like has been been through most most of this entire a tempus the tea party one of the best defenders of donald trump has been alan dershowitz harvard law school professor retired now who's a general only thought of as a liberal media he shows it he's just going on constitutional issues he's just say this is this is ridiculous this is for all of these charges are preposterous these people going on tv they they they claim that their lawyers in their constitutional scholars if they're takis throwing around the word treason like like the know what they're talking about if they ever read the definition of treason in the in the constitution thanks for the call scotland the nice senior hope your mother like the book kennedy babylon you can order it online at the how we carshield dot com and order it at.
"donald junior" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Definition of the kind of collusion or coordination that could be unlawful there are laws that prohibit anyone from taking a foreign contribution for a campaign including opposition research there are laws that prohibit conspiring to obtain information from a foreign adversary and you know for months donald trump has stated flatly that noone in his campaign had the any contacts with the russians the shows that certainly isn't true not only did donald trump jr meet with the russians but he knew in advance from those emails that as you just read the russian government had high level sensitive information that was part of their support for trump and it wasn't just the president's son paul manafort the campaign chairman at the time and the in soninlaw jared kushner were on the email chain they knew russia wanted to help them and they attended the meeting to what has been the president's reaction to all this with the president has not tweeted about this which is unusual since he has tweeted many times about the russian story and about his kids he did issue a statement which was read by deputy press secretary sarah sanders today which says quote my i son is a highquality person and i applaud his transparency what he was referring to was the fact that donald junior tweeted out the email chain of course that was only after the new york times told him they were about to publish the emails but sarah sanders also said the president wants everyone to cooperate with the appropriate investigations as donald trump jr has said he would do and that white house briefing was off camera again today you were there what happened in that briefing and and what was the tone of spokeswoman sarah sanders so the first thing about the briefing it was a it was very brief it was about nineteen minutes after her opening remarks and although sarah sanders has answered questions about the russian story in the past she's also been very combative in arguing that the only inappropriate thing was that any of the information about these meetings were shared was with the press this included just yesterday when the first accounts of donald trump junior's meetings were disclosed today she merely read the.
"donald junior" Discussed on KTRH
"Oh says our radio sensation verse thing mark levin we're going to get these emails in a moment but i have an old politico piece here left wing site i cannot vogel david stern dated january eleven 2017 says donald trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of the former sovietbloc country ukraine government officials tried to help hillary clinton and undermine trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office they also disseminated documents implicating a top trump aiding corruption and suggest that they were investigating the matter only tobacco away after the election and they helped clinton's allies research damaging information on trump and his advisors a political investigation fana this is a left wing site ukraineamerican operative who was consulting for the dnc met with top officials in ukrainian embassy in washington in an effort to expose ties between trump top campaign aide paul manafort in russia according to the people would direct knowledge of the situation i let me ask you a question i'm not even done reading this donald junior bates where they russia lawyer the new york times has yet the demonstrate that she in fact is tied by the kremlin our assent by the kremlin but that's the publication of the flat out statement in their socalled news report they're told is going to be information that's helpful doha's fathering the campaign wow what a crime and then there told that it comes from the russian government there was no information nothing came from the russian government in that meeting zero now i'm reading to appease from january where in fact the ukrainian government officials met with than provided information to surrogate of the hillary clinton campaign to influence the outcome of the election you don't here pete about this now why is it important to bring this up it's important to bring this up the demonstrate what a smear and forest is going on and in this country the.
"donald junior" Discussed on 550 KFYI
"Little zia over the sea level to see here hi welcome to the program chris mariluz 550 camp where she tucker carlson is talking about clinton emails that's good she number of opinion articles trying to say clinton did it clinton did it clinton did it forget here's the headline from the hill opinion forget donald junior's email it's hillary clinton who colluded with russia here's the problem with this because i said this yesterday did i not there are not say it would be naive to think that russia didn't try to figure something over both sides russia could try to play every side they can the the only side russia really cares about treasure they don't give a damn they might want trump to win because they think they can work or deal with him or again irresponsible speculation maybe they did worker deal with him but to think that russia was going to try something with the clinton campaign why why why would try because they didn't like they did like obama so these are the the clinton would be an extension of obama so the voter route they're going to go after clinton we know that people try to hack into the are in sees database right we know that they want to successful it and find the dirt that they found the dmc database but don't think russia's out there going oh yeah early in this one person what i'm getting this look from holly like what are you doing what are you doing just listening physician hmm but the thing is is that this is such a fallacy in somebody's mind that such a it's such a well lawsuit jerry things gary's of phoenix our newstalk five if the gary ablett ahead yeah thanks for taking my call um you know i read that whole crowd of of emails between darn junior and uh what gold rose i goldberg hang on hang on your guy told me you didn't see anything well known what i i hope that we're pretty interesting in in the whole the whole point of the dirt that they had on hillary had to do with hillary colluding with the russians and and doing illegal things with the russian and i just think that's a little bit comical about in all of this discussion i haven't heard it i haven't heard.