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THE ADDAMS FAMILY - Double Toasted Audio Review

Double Toasted

36:29 min | 1 year ago

THE ADDAMS FAMILY - Double Toasted Audio Review

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It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind it's pain and it's getting in between you closer to the designs that we've seen more than ever in animated form are any form of than actual comic itself none of them have been CGI had the modern family movie CG I did CGI Animated Addams family and let's see if modernizing them can actually uphold what some people say is a timeless theme and idea that's all the time even the character that don't have voices thing is here O'Hara's it all the characters Donald Fan we'll talk about them a little bit more because now we got the Addams family movie now we've had several movies several shows but today people said they say we need so much now more than ever a message of diversity back Uncle Fester Nick Kroll as Uncle Fester Carey was that girl's name Grinstein Moritz so let's go ahead and take a look at this trailer I mean this has all star cast to Isaac was his name is Oscar Isaac have there I'm not sure as usually a motorist clown attached to the other end of these old boy did the love love by neighbor if you will be tolerant you'll be tolerant yes love that name even like Goth serial killers treatment and with the modern soundtrack and everything some people say you know what that's a good start gives them all new look kind of brazen they might they might be members of the family those names you just turn dogs on Chloe chloe say every day talk Khloe Grace Marat's got them too many grace w fence hi neighbor but the good people we all know them's family somebody's name you win Khloe Grace Moritz that evening kid from stranger things fin wolf hard people pull them up I mean in modern tiles people they pulled up the pitchforks and torches out of here you're creepy rallies they're on as mortician and more sex in this to more tissue everybody loved mortician man all that black look like a witch the what in two weeks through children all right I'm away totally awesome they might be nice people you know get the no man live next day talking about the WHO better deliver that message on the addams family everywhere they go neighbors just freaked out it started really as tight as you can make Wednesday yeah it also different Pugsley listen this is a comic strip that a lot of people don't know and that's why I say it's kind of timeless I shot her what he said to me look he's dressed hey let's take a look at the trailer for the new Adamy you chunk my battleship shoot people are monsters bill ruin the neighborhood the very very strong property that people look at and continue to try to mind and make money off of this more of a testament to Charles Adams and his humor and his art style you know that's why I say a lot of people say that this is something can last for years and years I mean this is uh-huh because the movie heasley made they made him a pip with Mickey Mouse Take that parents out there might remember that family from just the the the enduring theme song from the TV show back with one thousand nine hundred sixty uh-huh Yuck I've done this thousands of time drink it all this gentleman wants serviceman's welcome to the neighborhood you went on for the next fifty years up until at least they ran up until he died tonight in nineteen eighty eight but they're still floating around you know and it's still still a very also gave us a sequel to this and some of you really dig deep and this is what I mean by this thing really does been going on a lot of people you know you didn't even know the comic Strip was that old some of the some of your your parents out there didn't even know about the comic panel this is a property come comic coming panel Yep Yep Cartoon the original art that you see that was created by Charles Creepy and they're all thinking you know some of the millennials even some Eugene's EP plot there you might remember it from the Nineteen Ninety one movie Barry Sonnenfeld Eh all bunch of heroin addicts sunk in is on Shit that's all the head whenever Avenue Sam and do not Oh do you want to uh-huh Gomez started nineteen thirty eight in the New Yorker thank went on until I'm sorry the Essay Nineteen Thirty Nineteen thirty eight cookie blames Lou but you know they mean will man they mean well no matter how much they like really does appeal to all generations because almost every generation has had their version of the addams family even if you don't know it that much member in the nineties in addition to the movie you probably don't even true so with so many versions of the addams family throughout the years all comes down to the execution be visually at least as close to the original property as it can I've seen some of these cartoons before and I recognize some things they brought out in one scene the two headed Mr fucked up blown Geico the addams family despite out this family was just awesome drugs they ran a meth land patch this kid yes doc when I saw that I was like oh I actually remember that from one of the one of the comic panels and they do a good job at weaving in throughout the movie with dot calling attention to them awesome animated Saturday morning cartoon show I didn't like looking at detail and staying very close to detail the designs of the characters stay very close to what they do with it because the style is already there the idea is already there and we know that deal with work with a lot of people in this movie really does try to go through search deep down little show them what it means to be an atom screw New Zealand you know they just kind of use them as a like they do with illustrated's here just as a way to sort of just spice up the environment who the originals as you if you're looking at the trailer you notice that they've tried to they've made him a little creepy for modern times uh-huh creepy the fuck hillbillies Goth. Up Yeah she is yeah she's way more creepy than she was originally conceived all but for the most part all of them stay true to to their region they do it quickly in the movie too I liked that that they just give you kind of a a really a really quick rundown of the things came from such as such as Lurch and I'm not GonNa say what happened with Lurch but I like the way they met lurches a nice it's a nice game bazaars except for one care and it's got a messed up except Lurch Lurch they model model him up with Michael Shannon I knew there it is apparent they have gone is it happens really quick gives you some story so there's a nice origin to these characters to get that first win Adam who went by Chas atoms sometimes not happy racial you'll love it if you you saw it in the trailer I kind of like it because it starts out with them moving to Jersey until somebody puts up one of those it also starts clever with the story I mean it it's the same old story but they do put sort of a more modern twist on it which is Tissue Gomez are having their wedding and just like everyone else they go they chased out by the by the townspeople so they decide to go somewhere where they will never be harassed and found because no one else wants to go there another job not as funny but New Jersey immortal I'm on it right to me Wednesday she she's all fucked up today you know she's like being a head yes they gave her that that you say that bleeded peanut butter for making this somewhat modernized for the times and also staying true to the original property now it's time we gotta get hit with everything that's lurch. I thought that he thought he was at the red yeah because again that fits very much a theme of of this time because we've all seen how houses today have no personality and that's where we get the character margot play by he's mad at both Michael Shot call them up decimal purpose yeah but if you were casting addams family live action movie when he the first person you call here's a modern day the judge kept looking at them like men who is it Oh shit that's that's Michael Shannon and they do a cool job at setting up an an origin story they drop it took and they even have this whole model of become assimilated personnel and it's funny man when you see modeling flip this House listed or a love it or listed a Levy listen to leave it yeah just way too Jenny who is a host of HGTV tight network is called Hag home and garden network. Yeah Yeah and you know at this point we know Mo- supposed to root for that I'm spam because they're not accepted for being different one even though this is where things houses terribly not up to code see the property values going to that man you're a homeowner your perspective is changed drastically crowd Bergener just because of his name nobody can see they're crazy as house so she has to find a way to get them out and when they don't bite with all her gives her offers a free remodeling then she goes to just try name on it and realtors in the networks expected me feel this neighborhood up and I can't fill up these motherfuckers back you live on a hill winning true methods of gossip telling everybody that these people want to rape children in each animal that kind of stuff so as long as kind of funny because they got a lot of things that have gone on and she her thing is man she's like look I did a show go in remodel all these homes used generic as neighborhoods that just seemed beaten the pop up out of nowhere like somebody planted seeds right right you know very sterilize community yeah plant communities very sterile you've got a sign that says what are you looking at looking yeah you know it's it's a lot of things that they do here that I would give it credit for the Gomez everyone we've invited to the Missouri has threatened to calm I know get back to your life with CBD medic available online and that CBS these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease but where will everyone sleeve lurch fix up the most Liam it'll be like sleep boy very well they get the house is under co property values going down they obviously have animals and plants that are legal not supposed to have fucking line just roaming through the neighborhood take a dip Nicoletti Lake no liz supposed to be a villain but she got a fucking point I mean Z.. Oscar has sounds like trump with no leash anything kids pets missing they just they just every five hours they blowing some shit up was a good way to even take a stab in riff on things like HGTV because you got all those guys to point out ridiculous is also got on there about re it took I thought that was the case yeah man but it looking into wonderful all Adams's under his age this three years ago you'd have been like these people alone same Baldo by off do what they want their own property owned a mobile home they are but now now got them danger to people you scream at peaking looking course core you know blame you it was funny they have these motherfucking look I know you're supposed to accept them for who they are trade Wednesday no instinct won't get my pitchfork and my children we want us to yoga traditions uh-huh periods they let them get away with not supposed to he's just acting yes make your but it never takes advantage of those premises though I mean it sets things up very good all those things I talked about that I liked before Orlando Swimming Pool you know come on tolerance only goes fun throwing bombs that's a great satire of all these HDTV shows and all the more got into the plot the more was like all just a series of these kind of gags doing weird shit yeah and if there was a plot it was if forgivable and then those movies I'm doing her own thing that time back in Johnny's character what she's building and then the bigger thing is is pugs your imagination guesses what they might do so even you go back to the sixties TV show there's no real episodes that anybody all you remember that this episode because I'm looking at it I'm like you know the animation is not great but they're doing a lot with this and the voice actors are doing a lot especially nick kroll uncle fester the latest just kind of spinning its wheels and and some things that you could get into getting derailed because you have to get this plot going with Wednesday breaking off with be complaining about what this movie too right we talking about the jokes here one is look I thought she would've loved it because all these puns they put in here I was going to let you go he wanted to see what they'll be like a good man I'll show all blasts minute last minute I thought it was at three o'clock I was like I can get over there see this get home take a shower Mukta show anti well should I'm sorry I didn't know Lee study into his his his Mitzvah Hesitant Goth Bar Mitzvah yeah yeah see that's the problem you made you know everything that I was spend the problem to addams family for the longest time really yeah being that it starts from that sick that so single panel gags they don't really tell a story you see this family you guys kind of the Gomez was actually a crazy movie yeah he should be so here they they tried to get going you're right they set up something that's man there's so many bad puns in here that just kill any cleverness they got one seen here that actually is kind of really creepy yet is kind of cool and I looked at to the setup not only is it attributed Charles Adams cartoon but they pull in a lot of elements from those Barry Sonnenfeld movies and from the TV show that in credits take great care for much at all and it was always because you once you once you you you stop showing all the weird shit they're into and UH actually made my flesh crawl now Gomez you know that would have been cool just as visually walking away apparently you've never served because you're not doing it right now now the comic he was on the money I was like wow I think he's my favorite character here but the problem what you're saying about how they set all this up but then don't know what to do with it them just redoing a a straight recreation of the opening credits for the TV show yeah cool in this different pull in and you know it's like Thomas Pitch he has all these spiders come out from under address it cross over the bridge and she says as as keeping my as they are walking over a bridge made of spiders made spiders spiders this is what you call surfing the web I'll bet you walk in eh well let me tell you what I could see how stupid you see agree with you know I agree with everything you're saying because they did tell these cute little jokes almost ponds and own way but they weren't that straightforward like like one right here was you know it is but the subplots was really killing this folks with no I was gonna say so it seems to be doing so many things at once it actually just becomes makes sense cute cute that's the way it is and plus you gotta keep in mind when this was made exactly so yeah here you just Kinda grow man newspeak where all the family members show up yeah that's cool my all those different characters or characters in come in their family I'm like okay this is it doesn't to focus on I think that's the big problem with this because can I tell you what the problem was up because I see this oh you did homeowner's association and things like that instead we get in this whole thing with Pugsley and his Goth Bar Mitzvah which is just a plot device to use for the climax yeah it's just up along setup that takes away some good story right here potential good story the other one is is wasted because this Wednesday hanging out with the time that could be spent on some of the better things that have potential like the family moving in it would have been cool to see the interaction with more than neighborhood yeah in the more the Oh you know what the plot and it's like this is stupid and just kind of all over the place and then Dan grow this is ridiculous I got them boring character in the movie who is the daughter of the the HGTV host Margot who you know she's making friends with her thing in the end it's that yeah that's that's so much what happened okay and it's too bad because there's you can see how some of this had that just been what it was Mesa broads partitions sexy especially in the later seen we should wear in her readdress but that scene right there I was like all right you just turned gets there and immediately guessing face of the biggest bitch in the school the bully and tells her she's like Nah you ain't I'm not here with you you were trapped here with me of imagination but together because everyone has a story telling you what it is you're just looking at them liked and the whole way that ceremony is going I was having a good time but with and that's that's done out quick also the donors trading places type thing where the daughter needed to us as much as I'm like I'm not really into the of the TV host Margo she starts to get more Godoi Wednesday starts to get a little more color and rainbows and a life but that doesn't go anywhere boy did that go nowhere all about right would it would have been really pick one like when they get to the Bar Mitzvah the what's it called them the Musaga something remain digman this they weren't years I was William is a lot of stuff they were doing it's as Dr Looking at her at her witch mother saying mom mail by the broom tonight you know so maybe how how funny but sma we could we could actually focused more on like poor more tissue in Gomez and that had the opportunity to be great because Wednesday decides to go to a public school just because he wants to see what this is like addams family movie that came on one thousand nine one one of the things I thought they did right was they did censor on mortician in Gomez you know they are the like well that's too bad because now we gotta bring the plot back Yeah God yeah the subplots here are pretty bad man because they take up keeping weird you start to like fill form because they love each other exactly this magic after but what a cool visual just just let it play out don't say nothing yeah you don't even make sense as I said the stories that we could have seen with the family interacting with the neighborhood more than neighboring other than the neighbor just reduced to people who are just a riot and arlene no one even looked at the corpse they were able to actually lay the humid down a little bit better too a bad move right there lurch lurch gets more time seriously looks gets a Lotta Times gets a musical number I don't even know stories cool seeing them they're in each one of them had their own little bits of animated business yeah yeah and it's just looking at the design of them started I feel like I'm I tune into the addams family for them and they pushed aside and they got they got nothing it's all about the kids who have the joke but they had put underlying it with a plan to put upon on if you if you if you're listening what it is is that mortician in order to cross this pit is imply a note

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Prayers Up For Chip The Buffalo

The Ross Bolen Podcast

1:07:28 hr | 2 years ago

Prayers Up For Chip The Buffalo

"Sir. Welcome to episode eighty five of the Rose Bowl in podcast, otherwise known as VP eighty five brought to you by grand x. media. I'm your host Ross bowl, and here at the grand eggs media studios in Austin, Texas with my producer, Michael whiner. Hello, Ross. Great to be here. Happy Friday. We've gone back to back to back to back. We've done it. We have accomplished this feat of four days in a row where like the Buffalo Bills, but we win every time exactly what a, what a fucking depressing piece of history that is that always gets brought up for bills fans. You don't wanna go to four Super Bowls and just get your ask kicked everytime that's that's not. That's not the ticket. Maybe we're more like the the Miami Heat under LeBron where we go for years. We win twice a couple. We got a couple of we have a couple of feats. Okay. One time we just get our ass kicked. There's always a couple dubs in there. I'm cool with that. I can take some ELS. 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Nobody cares everyday to these social media outlets put photos and videos and content related to our show. We highlight old segments. We make announcements and shit. We fill up our Instagram story with pictures from all of you and videos. The u the listeners sin to Mike via Snapchat at w. r. bolan is my Snapchat. Mica is at mica t x. in Texas, keep the Snapchat scum and we'll add the best ones to the Instagram story at the Rose Bowl and podcast. The only announced. -ment or men's that I have in granted. I'm sure that there are some emails in my inbox from from some of you giving me other men's that I need to make I, we've swamp this week. We're doing an episode every fucking day pretty much so I don't have to. I haven't had time to read all my emails, but I can always make those men's later. The only announcement I have is this Bruce and Bill are both comfortably recovering from tooth removals that they had yesterday. For those of you don't know. Little dogs have lot of teeth issues because it got too many teeth in their little crowded mouths. They tend to have teeth issues, especially if they eat things, they're not supposed to eat like acorns or leaves. For example, both of which my dogs for whatever reason, love anything they can crunch. They love crackers treats, you know, leaves acorns, great examples. I came up with their, but anyway, so we take him in for cleaning and it turns out Bella our little list. One has like some kind of fucking to disease. She had to get nine teeth pulled nine. That's a lot. Yeah, it's crazy. Bruce had to get to. And that was like, even that's traumatizing, but nine as dude who's had a lot of dental work done. You know how it is. Like if you've had your wisdom teeth, pulled your woozy the next day you feel like shit, your fucking jaw hurts your cheeks puffy. That's where my dogs are right now. Belen particularly, but they made it through the, it's always scary, like putting a little dog on what's it called. They give you before anesthesia at shit, scary and they're both good. I don't think Bill still, no. She's like morphine out. She might think she's on another planet. Still do not moving around much, but they're both recovering with less teeth than they had previously was a long night, and that's my only announcement we'll get into it. I segment animal of the week, the American alligator. So we're gonna learn about the American alligator today. First of all, they live in the wild southeastern United States, like you're most likely to see him Florida, Louisiana. They live in rivers, lakes ponds swamps by using marshes, these are places with water. They live in the water. Everybody already knows to avoid Louisiana and Florida as much as possible. So this is just another reason to stay away. There's alligators fucking everywhere. I'm just kidding, both, Louisiana, Florida, great states, gator's kind of clumsy on land, but they are very much built for life in the water. Fantastic swimmers have got these webbed feet strong, tails the tails plan, much bigger part than either even realized before doing a little bit more research for this particular segment in the alligators swimming, they propel them through the water. Those things are that like pure muscle back there, the average male gator ten to fifteen feet. The average American alligator male American alligator which is three to five meters. One annoying thing I've noticed about researching all these different animals. You always get feet and meters for every fucking measurement. You also get pounds and kilograms. It's like I understand for those of you in Europe or whatever you guys use them metric system, but for those of you everywhere. But here. Oh, yes, still, yeah, I still do you remember Mike when you're in school and they tried to explain away like why it is that we're the only country that doesn't use the metric system we spent. I feel like we spent weeks of our educational process learning about the metric system, basic. The like the lesson was essentially like, fuck them, though. It was never a good reason given to why we did what's also like the reasons always like the metric systems, a better system, but fuck everybody but us. Yeah, like where this is a miracle American exceptionalism like at it's fine. It really liked the greatest example of that. No reason is talking about gallons and and courts and cups and a miles. You know miles as opposed to feet and Allama is opposed to communists none of it. Makes sense. No is very confusing. Yeah. But this is what we news yards where it's crazy. I like it but like it. I'm gonna go with it. I very much enjoy our system. Look. I I'm not saying I am advocate for the metric system. It's just fucking annoying. It's it's just annoying. That's not much more complicated than that for me, but they can weigh what half a ton, a thousand pounds. These alligators a thousand pounds average male ways between five hundred six hundred pounds. Hey guess what? That's two hundred and twenty seven to two hundred seventy two kilograms. Nobody knows what a kilogram is in the United States. I couldn't. I female. Are usually smaller than males half the link. These Gators is their big strong tails. Here's a little bit. I didn't know about the American alligator back in the sixties. They were actually facing extinction replaced on the endangered species list like they were close to get wiped off the face of the earth. As a result of being placed on that endangered species list over the course of twenty years by nineteen seventy seven. They were thriving. Now we've got millions of these fuckers all over the place. In fact, they're they're over a million American alligators in the state of Florida alone. One million. That's a little crazy. Like I knew Florida was the Gators state. I knew that you could, you know, you see him on the golf course or whatever. On occasion, one like wanders into traffic and it's funny and we see it on YouTube. I didn't realize they were million motherfucking alligators in Florida at changes my whole perspective on shit. What if the Gators form an army? This is a problem. They could March on the state of Florida. One million strong and we could have gator uprising on our hands, be real problem. Don't these things live to be like a thousand years old? No, thank God. They live to be thirty five to fifty. It's wow. You're thinking turtles. Well, yeah, but I thought Gators sort of the same way. I guess it was run on thinks that would. It would be a fucking. Okay. If there were a million of them in the state of Florida and they lived to be a thousand. The problem would become very real. We'd have to get to hunting alligators which radically we'll talk a little bit about in a little bit. Good. We're getting. We're gonna get to the. Yeah, we are. We're gonna talk about that. Grandma, Fisher, one thousand percent. The number one threat to these alligators today as a result of their population has been, it's been replenished, but habitat destruction from human activities such as draining and developing the wetlands. That's the biggest issue for alligators. Obviously, that's the biggest issue for all animals in the wetlands is the draining of the wetlands, the the habitat destruction. This just reminds me of the arrested development. Lindsey goes to pretend to try to save the wetlands could shit anyway, as huge as the female alligators can be. Even though they're a little bit smaller than the males are still big ass, reptiles, very ferocious looking actually very gentle mothers. They make like a nest on the shore, lay their eggs. They guard the eggs until they're ready to hatch. At that point, the baby start making noises the mother. Here's the little noises as they break out of the eggs and she carries them gently in her mouth to the water nearby in newly hatched young or usually about six to eight inches, which for those of you in the in the UK of fifteen to twenty centimeters. That and very vulnerable. The mother protects them from predators like raccoons and Bob cats and birds and even other alligators. Apparently they'll just cannibalize each other and the young alligators stay with their mother for up to two years. That's a really long time. It's so strange as some animals tend to their young in fend off predators and others are just like, all right, good luck motherfucker in then in the middle of saying that sentence, I realized that's the exact same thing that happens with humans. Some people are good mothers and some people are terrible mothers in. Some people have great parents and some people's parents just kick them out into the real world and figured out on your own motherfucker. As I said, they live thirty five to fifty years girl, be five hundred, six hundred pounds. Like if you're looking to see how much alligator ways look at big Pia. No, like normal, classical sized piano. That's about how much one of these guys ways. They mainly fish turtles, various mammals. Bird. Other reptiles you've seen their chompers. They can put anything down. They're both males in the females. Had these like armored bodies with muscular flat tail the skin on their back is, you know, it's got, it's like embedded with bony plates. They're actually called Opio germs or scoots like that back armor. They've got got those four short little legs. Front legs have five toes while the back legs only have four toes, which is strange, got long rounded, snouts upward facing nostrils that allow them to breathe while the rest of their bodies underwater. It's why seem low key creep in, you know, in those little bodies of water, which just fucking nostrils popping out, they'll get you Val. The young ones have bright yellow stripes on their tails adults have darker stripes. They darker, they get older. It's actually very easy to distinguish an alligator crocodile based on their teeth. The large fourth tooth in the lower job, and alligator fits into a socket in the upper jaw and is not visible when the mouth is closed. That does not happen in crocodiles, alligators have seventy four to eighty teeth in their mouth at a time. And as they wear down, they get replaced this crazy. They can go through three thousand teeth in a lifetime. Three thousand teeth. They get replenished a wish. That was the case for my dogs who are not lacking in teeth, but a aggress journal the week, the American alligator. And now we're gonna talk about an American alligator getting got hard next segment. Gator, killing grandma. See my seen this in the news over the past week. This small town mayor this great grandma Judy Cochran she seventy three years old in rural Texas. She shot and killed a bloodthirsty gator. She, she calls it that she's been hunting for years. She's been trying to take this thing out. She believes at eight, one of our miniature horses. And she offered and there's video of her offing it. It's a twelve footer too big boy. Five hundred eighty pounds very long, five hundred eighty pounds. Even if it one of killed that horse. That's a huge gator, huge monster. Just going like the. Eighty pounds. They're crazy, big cr-. I mean they've got pictures of her with you. Gotta Google Judy Cochran c. o. c. h. r. a. n. it's going to be the first thing that pops up. They've got pictures of her next to this gator with like, you know, roped up or whatever God as my witness, it kind of looks like the gator from the movie hook. It's that big. It's huge. It twelve feet five hundred eighty pounds, and she believes the eight or horse. So she hunted it for two years. Finally gets revenge. Hell. Apparently back in two thousand nine in this exact same pond, her five year old grandson shot gator and that one was even bigger. It was eight hundred pounds, twelve foot six inches who? Nope. No, not down with this battle. She also got it with one shot, which I love one shot. While you shoot, you should get her in the head and you say, that's one shot. One shot kid and used act like Ronnie and jump around. 'cause that's what I would do that is the best jersey shoreline. In my opinion, ever the the one-shot, what shut shut, what shut kid. I love it. Dude, he, he crumpled that guy. You know what I've heard about the story for two or three days hour-long. It's yeah, I've seen it on Twitter, whatever. I had seen the photo until today. You've got to look at this of mine have if you just search gator on a Google winner or Twitter, it's like the first story. The pops up the photo of. This woman next to a twelve foot. Five hundred eighty pound gator is unbelievable. He's crazy. It looks Photoshop is is really gnarly and there's like the pick of her with the gun like she's old white, haired woman. You know, she's Livingston. Texas is it's a small town of about five thousand people where she's the mayor, apparently newly lex. She could probably be the mayor for the rest of her life. Now, he she's clearly the most famous person from Livingston. She's going to have the name ideas for to it in politics. The problem is that we know they're over million, Gators in Florida, and at least a small faction of those has to be strategizing right now to get revenge on Judy Cochran I think that's goes without saying, but this thing, eight opponent man. And then she went full vice vice even compares it to cause the Liam Niessen of grandma's which is absurd. God you gotta go. Watch the video vices. Got great footage and interviews or some great ones from like. FOX twenty six, which I believe is Houston, Houston, Chronicle's got great quotes from her as well. It was a totally legal kill just for the record, but that does not mean that animal rights group pita is happy about it. Of course, they're pissed off about it. They are all over this Texas grandmother too. By the way that gator was two hundred sixty three kilograms. Keep giving you these metrics these old. What do you call it? What's the other scale use the metric scale? God, man, my this is four deep this week. I'm I'm barely functioning, but I'm enjoying it. Shot it right in the head off it. I don't know. This is one of those things like art. So when I find like a spider in my backyard, I'm like, Aw, man, I gotta get rid of the spider. I don't want to buy one of my dogs or whatever. Typically Taylor will be like, don't kill it. And I'm like, what? What do you want me to do? Relocate it off into the what? How what do you want me to do? Sometimes you just gotta kill. Feel something to keep your home safe or whatever. Not just the way it is. It don't get me wrong. Like pretty often, you know, rather than killing a bug. I would try to capture it and set it free. 'cause I don't have any beef with bugs in general, just I don't want him in my house, but if it's a gator of that size and you think your horse. I think you gotta put a bulletin that things head. I respect the move from from old lady Judy. So, yeah, that's the story of a gator, killing grandma next segment, what is nor McDonald's deal and in I've brought in my friend, Dave rough to to discuss this Whitney, Dave. How are you. I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on again two times in one week, why not? Didn't we talk about normal little the first time to did we did we. I don't know. Nobody really knows it all blends together. We did talk about norm last weekend. Mike is read the week. Oh, that's what it was. Okay. Well. To continue that conversation a little Dave. You know what it was I brought up that you were the person, the other person. I know he's like a huge norm Donald fan and you're the first person I knew who like mainstream supported nor McDonald because he's such a unique in strange dude and not very many people get what he's doing. We've got the point is he's got this new show on Netflix. It's called Norman, Donald has a show and it's talk show like a variety show, kind of it's pretty much the exact same format is his old podcast was if you ever watched or listened to that, the first episode of this, this new Netflix show drops September fourteenth, two thousand eighteen. I've watched a handful of episodes. Now. Five, I believe is how many I've watched and it's very, very good. But the problem is like nobody gets norms humor, very like the I watched the first episode which was special guest, David Spade of. Movies like tomboy or black sheep. That's it. It's the only things you ever did his now. He also shoot me he's in. Yeah, just shoot me did a ton of Adam Sandler movies. Everybody knows David Spade is straight. Does Adam Sandler movies regularly? Yeah. And after the first episode of norm, Donald has show Taylor. Dover means. She was like, what the fuck was that. She's like, I didn't really like it. I was like, oh, okay. Well, let's give it one more. Give it another shot. So the second episode is is drew Barrymore is the guest. And once I had explained to Taylor like the norm McDonald stick basically. She got it and thoroughly enjoyed it. And now we're like four, five episodes deepen. It's getting better and better. But what I wanted to do for the sake of like people more people getting enjoy norm is try to explain to them what the hell is doing. You see. I appreciate what you're going to try to do. Yeah, but I don't think you're going to succeed in your mission here, and here's one that might be fair. I don't think you can. I don't think you can talk someone into liking norm the, it's hard to talk people into liking comedy. You either like that stuff or you don't. Can I change word it kind of the same, it's, but you either get it or you don't sure deficit. That's a better way of saying. Sure. This restaurant you though, is ago thoroughly enjoys normal. It doesn't. And here's why I actually had this conversation with will the freeze the other day off Mike. And he was saying, Dave, don't take offense of this, but I just don't really think norms all that funny. Yeah, he's like, it's not that I don't respect him. It's just that. I don't think he's that. He doesn't appeal to me. And I said, you know, I don't. I don't really take any issue that I completely understand it because it's a, it's a style of humor. That's not for everyone. There's probably a split in your audience, our audience. I'm sure there is absolutely people who grew up seeing norm on. Yeah, not live. Solomon dirty works as masterful appearance in Billy Madison. Yes. As a piece of shit friend who hangs out by the pool, what is she talking about? Great character. Yet. It's tough to explain it because normally he's kind of a polarizing figure his stand up. Comedy is revered by the best, the best comedians in the world view, if you were to take a poll of the best standup is in poll, only people who do stand up norm would be top three. He'd be on the list. Yeah, US. Yeah. I mean your favorite, he's he's your favorite comedians favorite comedian putting? Yeah, that's kind of the angle. David Letterman is one of his biggest fans, and there's an I haven't watched it yet, but David Letterman's and upcoming guest. Watch is fantastic. Yeah. A norm was on one of the last guests on the letter on late night with on David Letterman's show the late show. David Letterman. Yeah, Letterman actually, what's a Letterman is actually like an executive producer of the show. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He is. This norm. He got, nor he pulled the strings. Dave Letterman has a show on Netflix as well. Yes, it is very good also at thoroughly enjoyed the the several episodes of that that I've watched. And I was curious if he had something to do with definitely he, he helped get back on TV. Norms had he had a sitcom, he had. What was it? The norm was at the norm show. They've, they're always named similarly, then he had sport show would normally Donald on comedy central. Yeah, that lasted tweaking, great. Go, go on YouTube type. Watch all of those only lasted nine episodes. There was a good show. He was a, he was actually doing that show when the Tiger Woods scandal broke, no, hey, and his his commentary on now it was just unbelievable. Go in and go search on YouTube. Wait, what? Wait. What norm Donald, and you'll see his segment called wait what? And it's just it's super, but it's so fucking funny and it's it's Norman nutshell, but Yemen, it's it's tough to convince people like, hey, you should like this guy is especially because norms is his style is it's very traditional comedian stand up comedian. It's dead pan. School, a lot of its old very old school. A lot of subversive comedy were he's just intentionally derailing. He's an instigator he is, but he's it makes him a fantastic into interviewer. Unlike anyone you've seen ever and. I would much rather watch him interview somebody than watch one of these guys who has a late night show and they just wanna go on there and plug your fucking new movie, your stuff and get gets those are really jokes out of out of you in three minutes now, that's, that's one thing I want to impress upon people here other than first of all, I don't necessarily want to convince people to to like norm. I would hope that more people get it, but at the very least you need to understand if it's not for you. It's not for you, and that's fine. But he's not. This is all intentional. Like if you're watching the show you watch norm, do comedy and you're like, man, is this really bad? Joke segment, it's not bad. It's supposed to be bad. It's it's, it's it's an angle. It's a different type of comedy. So I've got so many norm recommendations. So Ross mentioned, you mentioned the the old. His podcast is YouTube show result also podcast. Yeah, he has named co host. Yeah, Adam side kick out Amiga who is perfect. Yes. She's the fucking weirdo. Manages the lab, the comedy factory, or whatever. The comes store Yali stores. He's involved in in comedy. Well, they have a segment at the end where they, they've clearly norm and maybe Adam to some extent, but norms written these jokes and a lot of motor, nor lot of them are absurd jokes. You shouldn't say their offensive there. Some some of them are just graph bad or just straight terrible yet bombing on purpose, which is something norm has been known to do, and he gives them to the guest and make reading and Adam, his co host to read without, you know, with no preparation and you can see when they get it. They read the car. They'll be like a k. and he makes it his upwards. He can't. He'll be like now now now now I want you to read your car. Don't say that allowed, but I want you to read it and I'm gonna go and read my joke, and then you're gonna your joke and they'll go sing the song. Yeah, it's great how he sets it up and some of the best or so, I guess on the on his YouTube channel, it was super Dave's, Dave Osborne, yeah, from. Actually, why that when we you dad Dave's on a lot of comedy, he was on curb your enthusiasm, great character. What's his name on there? Marty Funkhouser. Yeah, great character funk Meyer Meyer. Admire thing. Go watch the jokes there. If you just type into YouTube, you can find it. Another piece of gold. Go check out when he hosted the Espy's in like nineteen ninety nine, holy shit. He hosted the SP's. He hosted the SPN and you will never be asked back because this is their guns blazing. This may be the greatest. It's it's the pinnacle of norm for me. This is the greatest monologue you've ever seen. And it's done in front of the Espy crowd, which is like notoriously weird. Little other athletes are not drunk and nobody knows how to act. Nobody knows how to act like even when it's like Lamm comedians. You can feel awkward as you always awkwardness takes it so far he makes he makes OJ jokes. He's, he goes, it's such an extreme thing. You can't believe it's on ESPN even fifteen years ago. However, long it was you gotta find this. We got us in the case in amazing, amazing thing. Deadspin always posted when the speech comes around. I watched every year. It's a major to do didn't. He also do the White House correspondent's dinner with one of the years Clinton was believe he did once. Look that up too, because that's great as well. And it's the best part of a norm, deliver a joke, at least on these. These ones we've just reference is watching his reaction. Where he's trying to kind of laughing himself because he knows how uncomfortable it just made the entire audience miserable. He's making everyone. It's so good. One of the things that before I forget that I wanted to touch on to as David mentioned, like it's in his interview style as a host as a talk show host is unlike anything else you're ever going to get. I think that's what makes them so good at this particular format for the normal Donald has show show. It's it is it's an actual interview. Yes, you're getting real questions real information. He asked some questions that are very uncomfortable. Very personal questions. Yes, ju berry more if you MRs. Cocaine? At one point, I spit out my fucking. She was so fucking good, but he's asking questions that you're never gonna see asked to the some of the most famous people in the world. He's doing it in a way that he makes them earned their answer even because people will start answering one of his questions. He'll straight up interrupt you and try to change the subject. If you don't play along with norm or figure out how to play off of him, you're gonna bomb. It's funny watching makes you earn it because you know him David Spade or buddies ears. Yeah, great. Friends like the Knicks warts one. There's a Knicks worsen not on this show. This is confusing. We keep going back to his old one. That's fine. You can get them on YouTube. This is from the normal, Donald Nixon. 'cause it's funny because you can see they know at norms doing they know what they're doing. You watch their face. They're like, okay, like normal. Just like jump in an interrupted and change the subject like like David Spade, like I won't. I won't finish the the answer there. The story. You don't funny to me David. Spayed being the first guest was very funny on on back to the Netflix show norm. Donald has a show which you can watch now. He played for sure very deeply into norm Schick. He talked a lot about doing coke and he, he kept using very niche terminology that only a cocaine would know which I thought was very funny. He basically outed himself still. What do you call it? I can't remember. He didn't say it wasn't yak or ios or something, but he used a term where I was like, oh, he, he referenced the drip coke. And the second starts talking about the drip. You're like, oh yeah, this person's still does cook dude when he tells us story about getting catfish. Yeah, that's like you're not gonna get that anywhere else? No, good. No, it was. It was like incriminating almost. He was also like openly kind of admitting Normal's like he asked him. Have you ever paid for straight six. And David Spade response was like basically indirectly? Yes, that that he, he was knowledge ING. What we often referred to as like semi escorts, which of these situations at some of these famous people get into with like Instagram models or influencers or whatever, where it's it's an unspoken deal in the joke. David Spade makes he's like, you know, you, you go sleep with this girl and you get a text like two days later. It's like, hey, I need a new radiator or something like that. So he just gets in all this shit. He shouldn't be getting into it. It's it's, it's good. But then when the second episode comes around drew Barrymore's the guest. I thought if you see you watch watch. I got caught up in color, rush last night. I thought I thought this was the best talk show. Interview. I've ever seen period, dude, I kinda love her man. She might be like he calls her America's sweetheart a couple times, and I know I've heard it referred to as such before, but she might legitimately be that she's so fun. She's like the nicest human being on the face of the. Yeah, I don't think she has like a, no. She had a dark side, but I don't think she has a negative Boehner body. She speaks that she talks about how when she was like thirteen going to the clubs in l. a. and doing cocaine, which is an outrageous that really happened like drew Barrymore was doing vein that you shouldn't do in your thirties when she was like twelve unbelievable, which is is just wild. You're developing brain absolutely watched ju- berry more thought drew was a perfect guest because she's so good and she gets norm the same amount as every. Watching. She doesn't know what's going on most of the time, but she's so nice that she just point blank will tell him several times during the course of their interview. She stops them and goes, I don't get it and it's just so it's like redeeming. 'cause it's like, neither do we neither be you're not supposed to get it. Judge. Judy is one of the guests, man. I love how random that is. She didn't really know what was going on some of the time which I enjoyed. But then the the only other one I'll talk about is, is David Letterman who you mentioned. He no one has the ability to play into the norm, stick better than David. Letterman we'll do. A lot of the norm stick is being David Letterman when norms interviewing you hear him go into his David, Letterman character. It's so bizarre. I think norm one time maybe twice on SNL in the nineties did a David Letterman skit. Okay. And you hear it with norm. Sometimes he just straight up. Turns into David letter just became interviewing. You'll just here and be like, ha. He does that a lot. You're like, what do you do it? It's so it's so great. And it's funny, man, you probably you could probably hear it on grand x. podcast. You hear people around here who kind of adopt some of it too, because I think there's a lot of people here who are big fans, but I'm excited for the David Letterman one it is. I mean, it's, it's next. It's good. Dave walks off at the end. He literally leaves the show in the best. The other, the best stick about normal. Donald has a show that I have noticed through the four, five episodes I've watched is he never really explained to the guests what's happening. There's not a large audience. It's a small one. He doesn't tell the guest when the show is started, he keeps pretending they're cutting to commercial break. There are no commercials Netflix show is he'd he being the middle of like him and drew Barrymore would get into like some deep shit talk for ten minutes about something and the normal go, and we're back and Druce faces. Like, wait what that wasn't even record, like he did the same thing. David Spade were day goes, why the fuck. Are we even talking at all, then we weren't on the air in it. No point is norm. Go back to explain to them. It was a joke. In fact, he just takes it a step further and continues to act like they're more commercials later on. Yeah, I had something. He says, huge testicles that part of this that people don't respect enough. Do you have any idea? Fucking scary. This is to operate on that level. All of the time. Never break character. He's had some huge guests to it's his whole life. Now, this norm has become his standup routine permanently. I don't think you could have a conversation with an, it's not. The same as what you see every time you see him talk. His also a big gambler, huge gambler believes that's some substance abuse issues in the past. He doesn't drink anymore. Yeah, I don't know. I know you sober one point. I don't know if he is now. He looks like shit. By the way. He looks like he's fucking eight years old. He's old when he up there and does a dance at the end and sings, you're like, oh dude, it's so bizarre norm. This is depressing. You know, everybody's got that one friend where you wish they'd take a little bit better care themselves, feel like God. I wish this motherfucker would just stopped like eating McDonalds every day or smoking cigarettes, so much, maybe bathe more often, whatever it may be norm as absolutely that friend for every a list comedian because he just worry about the guy like is he gonna make it? Yeah, I hope he does because he's unbelievably funny. But when if you go watch norms show which I highly recommend you do because again, not only does he have fantastic guests. I think it's a very unique type of interview that you're not gonna get anywhere else ever go in with an open mind and go and understanding that it's all part of the joke in everything with him is a performance. It's like Mike, and I, when we talked about this Norman Don. New York Times piece last week, where norm doesn't consider himself to be the anti comic or whatever. It's like the, I'm so in for people who are wondering why the fuck are we still talking about this again a week later. I'm obsessed with this type of shit like the the Kauffman esque performance art living. The joke type shit is the most interesting shitting comedy to me, the amount of dedication that that takes is crazy. Like every year you the play with them or you both bomb, and he loves it either way. He doesn't give fuck the his performance at the roast of Bob sag. It was that the one where he intentionally made the worst jokes, he told. Super outdated jokes that were just so old tiny, like from the nineteen thirties and she's like, yeah, yeah. And you know, it's funny that they've booked norm on that. I know he's friends Bob saggy, but it's like dude, he was. He's not the kind of comedian who goes up there and roast. He's not like that's just not his style. He's no, Greg Giraldo. They had to have known. He was going to do that like he was gonna come up with something. My favorite part about that is they always they spliced in clips of the, you know, the beautiful people. They pay to sit out in the crowd Abel's probably have no idea, and they would. They would cut to like normally a joke and it bombs in like Bob sag in the background, who knows exactly what's happening, and they would pan to like some, you know, hot couple, some hot tan couple in the crowd who were cracking up. It's like they're, that's either from another joke from another performer or that's just fake over the top. Laughter, it's, there's even get that. No, it's just be real in a lot of, yeah. It's funny man. A lot of it you, you're not gonna be like gut laughing. I mean, you're not going to be. It's not belly laugh or but a lot of it's just so funny that you're. Ramada spin watching it. There's a lot of like what there's a lot of that, but I, I mean, that's I, I wish people would give norm more of a shot. Like I feel like a lot of people are gonna watch the first episode and walkaway after David Spade they're gonna be like, that was terrible. It was wildly unstructured. It was random, but it's supposed to be. Yeah. I mean, Dave, I love about it. The how, the unstructured, the entire thing is how they've got to you said there wasn't a, there was a small audience, so his only studio audience there isn't when it's just the crew. So. Just a production guy or like a cameraman. Yeah, which is I love. It feels so intimate. And if there's an audience, it's just it's a different feel. Yeah. And that's when you get like the whole, the guest is always playing for the audience. Definitely. That's I don't watch late night. I, I go to bed earlier, but dude, imagine how good like Jimmy Fallon show would be if he was able to actually do meaningful interviews with his guests. Yeah, I'm John would be great. No, it wouldn't. Jimmy Fallon is terrible at interviewing people. All he wants to do is make people laugh and the hosted game show. Jimmy Fallon is a trash talk show. I'll just say, oh, Jimmy, I think has is because he humanized Trump. No, he's trashy shows why you cock? No, no, no. Don't get cut. Fallon is terrible at his job. He's funny. He's a funny guy, but you can't be tear. I'm sorry, yell, Rawson I normally don't you on this pot. That's okay. Well, don't tell me the Jimmy Fallon without a studio audience becomes Charlie rose. All the said. No, the guy ask. Good questions. He's terrible. He's serious allegations a worse interviewer than Jay Leno. Who was the worst who the highlight Jalen. Yeah, you would nice guy. Rose, like rape somebody. He was just a creepy old guy, I think. Oh, yeah. You know, he got me to himself. Leno. Have you heard about this? Yeah, look, I'm not saying Lynda was good, bad example. I'm point. Is you getting real interviews here? Yes, free-form, no structure like nobody ever asked Mel Gibson, what's who's a who's a handsome, man, the John Hamm ocean's eleven, John Hamza fine example. And nobody. Nobody asked Jon Hamm real questions on late night shows like John tells about difficult struggles growing up. They're like, hey, John tells about your new project with Amy Schumer. That's it. John's river is going to be the next Batman. Tell us about that. He's been a dream ears, and then John turns to the audience and smiles and the audience laughs, and then they cut to commercial and they come back and they do a couple more questions than, hey, no. The thing that I hate the most about modern late night television is they always they always try to have some. This is found this is found really sucked. Yeah, they always try to have some fun game or some like, oh. You wanna go, you wanna go play kickball with the flaming bowling pins and it's something. Yeah, John Hannan I gonna play beer pong with Boeing balls. This is crazy. 'cause it's beer pong? Yeah, so wacky, it's all right, dude, just fucking interview him. Look, we're having fun with playing games just like the Poor's watching John hamlet, a pledge on fire. I think when he was in college on, he got kicked out of UT for like, yeah, I was just like a knife to someone's ball wasn't even alleged. This is documented. Yeah, John has shit. It's pretty hard core also just a hog on that guy which is normal about it can't get away from that dick, he's the guy. He's the go. The big dick is tortured by big dick. Nobody will stop bringing it up or putting up. He snapshots snob snapshots of his, his mushroom head poking through his fucking chino. Do you know what this is? What it's like to be a famous woman, John him right Geno. It's like a photo of Britney Spears nip. Look at this cleavage Christina, Aguilera, holy, and the dragged a pledge with a hammer by his balls and then set his clothes on fire. Classic. That's just cloudy some guys that I know he wasn't a pledge. He was a brother's an active. They almost they let his bed on fire on accident, just fireworks under a military smoke bomb under his door, and it caught his bed on fire while he was he was asleep and kick the door down, literally almost burn him and the house down lived with that guy for a couple of years up to this little brother angry. When he was unable to recite a list of details, he was supposed to memorize about fraternity members. He then sets it Sanders jeans on. Post's his face into the dirt and hit him with the paddle. The AP said, jam participated in the hazing, quote till the very end. Sanders says, what is win was the very end did not let up. It sounds like Jon Hamm was was was really tied in college. That's what does. Yeah, you're reading this. And yeah, it sounds like he went a little far, but it's like guys like that. It's really funny that like ninety nine percent of the population hearing that is like what a monster, and I'm like, that's tight. That sounds guys as the hardest. We're usually the least. Cool. That's okay. But there were cool guys who had serious, like Emilio issues. Seeded issues would come out during the hazing and just exploded. You'd be like, what the fuck dude to what's going on with what's going on. Brian man. He's normally pretty chilly O'Brien, just lit that pledge on fire. Fucking sprayed raid in that kids face. Yeah. Fuck got laid last night. He's still angry. Yeah, that would be cool. Guys ham attended UT for three semesters from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety, though he aspired to be an actor. His top priorities at the time were quote, getting laid and getting hammered. He told. Two thousand eight interview great clue, much different than most kids in college. The school after his father died. So obviously there was some deep seated. She telling you this semester, and then of course he enrolled at the university of Missouri where he later starred in PSA's from the university, which were dope. Great. No, his goes back to Missouri. Yeah, the forever. I love that. Jon Hamm was full blown terrible hazing, frat guy at one point and to get to what this fucking segment is supposed to be about. That's exactly my point here in Dave. You said it if Jon Hamm came on normal, Donald has a show norm would not even let Jon Hamm talk about anything else but his his hammer. Yeah, he'd keep bringing it up over and over until Jon Hamm got mad enough to leave the stage and that would be the show and it would be glorious. That's never gonna happen. Jon Hamm would never put himself in that situation, but it would be glorious if it could happen. I've been told. Chevy Chase. One's pretty good too. I that's very, that's up next for me because he's very unstable who's very old and he's a little Kuku. He's didn't. He say some racist shit at one point, two layers alleged you know what it's funny. You mentioned Chevy Chase because Chevy Chase is the topic of next week's re to the week is read of the week. It's a tease for you. Wow. So check out the norm show. Listened watched that episode and then come back for the profile. Dave. Do you have any closing remarks you'd like to make an attempt to get people to understand or at least give Norma chance. A highly recommend doing a little primer. Go on YouTube all the stuff we previously mentioned. Also look up norm, Donald, Nick, sward, CIN man, great. MA n. g. r. e. it's an ad they did. It's a sponsor of one enormous podcasts or was YouTube show and they did this. This ad read for the man great at some grilling tool, and it's so it's it's the funniest thing I've ever seen because there's no way they stayed on as a sponsor after this res where he bombs the read on purpose. He he clearly just, yeah, he makes making fun of it basic. I'm gonna probably go watch it after this. I haven't watched it in a long time. Watch that watch. I don't know. You're you're either gonna love it or hate it. I, it just bums me out. I know. I know you emir on the wrong side of the coin here because we're people who try to be funny for a living it. So that's the kind of person who loves norm. Yes, he makes. He's like the scapegoat for all of us. Basically just does the hardest possible version of comedy, but I just want everyone to of McDonald's. I don't know how to explain it, but take you Dave interview with whatever the Hollywood reporter is at the. We talked about a little a little bit as much as I want to talk about it anyway, Roseanne and the the Louis hit. That is what it is. The thing about the victims of obviously was not a good statement knows it was listen when you wouldn't you when you're a celebrity like norm, who even? I think he's probably considered like see list probably be list at least not A-List. Any everything you say is gonna get written down and recorded, and if you say something wrong, like he did do the backlash against him on Twitter, I saw he was ending and I knew when I saw him trending, I was like, well, that's not good. I was looking at. People were like, I could finally say, I don't think norms funny. It's like, yeah, and. I don't know. Normally one point on north Donald has his show. He's like, you're not allowed to say, you don't get it. You're just an idiot or something like that. And I thought that was a great way for him to put it. Yeah. I mean, that's a good if that's a good way to to frame it. When someone doesn't understand your comedy, what's called stupid, just call them stupid. That's always might have my go-to defense has he does he have any? I haven't gotten that far of only watch one at one episode, but Zia does he go after Adam, ran out of nowhere as he done that yells at him. A couple times he used. He had some bit where he would accuse Adam of being a whole cost Nyerere. And like out of like, I'm actually at a plays along with it perfectly, you know, Jewish, right? And like it's like we're watching you. He also regularly blames. He'll give a guess. Jokey wrote to read the guest will read it and then be very upset about it, and he'll blame it on Adam mmediately. Adam wrote all the terrible jokes definitely didn't. Thanks for coming on and talking about norm with me. If people are wondering right now like. Are saying, I don't. I didn't get this segment. It was bad. No, you're just dumb. Yeah, we're going to start using that defense to Dave. Where can people follow you and hear you your voice if they want to more of it on the touching base podcast available in the grand x. media network. Also you can hear me on the combat sports minute occasionally on back-door cover, which is also in the grand x. media network the combat sports minute. Yeah, also you can find me on Twitter and snap at decoder. Rough also. You can follow me on Instagram at DC. Rough also on linked in Jesus. Some guy invited me to have a virtual coffee with them yesterday. What does that mean? I think it means we Skype or talk on the phone, but we're drinking coffee. So it's basically a conversation, but we're drinking coffee, and we each acknowledged that each other's drink drinking coffee at seems like the best possible spot to do the like Jack Nicholson from the departed where you get a giant fake black dildo, and then you pretend. Masturbate during the Skype session? Yeah, I hadn't thought of doing that. But now that you mentioned, it's my recommendation. All right. Well, if you'd like to have virtual coffee with me, hit me up on any of the app now. Nobody's gonna know it's going to be coffee only. No, you're not gonna jacket with a fake. No, I would never do that. Okay. That's not my style. Well, we'll let you get out of your day. Thank you again. Bye-bye. Okay. So this this next segment is called pray for chip the buffalo, and I brought in my friend doing chivalry here to talk halo Dylan alot Billy how you doing and you're the office resident. Chip, the buffalo expert is correct. I kinda just can't stop talking about it on social media and on our network of podcasts. I think we've we've done. We've talked about it on every show we do now. So it only right that we do it again. What's the greatest thing ever happened to me? It's one of the funniest sports moments in history. It's it's honestly, it's way the hell up there. It's like a undisputed. If you're unfamiliar quickly, I'll summarize what happened for you chip. Is the mascot of what university of Colorado at boulder is the buffalo. He's a buffalo and he's got like a cartoon big old buffalo head. He's smiley, looks real. Happy jolly. And at the game, this past Saturday chip was attempting to fire t shirt cannon to shoot a t shirt into the crowd, you know, so that a fan could catch it and sure, and enjoy that extra large generic t. that will be completely ruined. After one wash in the washing machine chip on, fortunately, had the cannon turn the wrong way and what resulted was a direct shot to the cock and ball went blank point blank with a t shirt cannon, which if you're thinking, I don't know much about t-shirt cannons velocity there. Yes, not not just that, but in order to fire a t. shirt, you know, several hundred into the crowd. You can't. You have to water it up tightly really? This is this is a yes, dangerous product up tight. And it's hard. It's wrapped in plastic to usually. And so the sound, first of all, you have to watch a video if you haven't yet. It makes. It in that is to the to the buffaloes dick of the impact. Now it's it's people have asked, like, what's that look like? Like a put sick of Buffalo's. Here's a man. A human man turns out that's just a costume. There's a human inside of is a guy in there. It's names not really chip. He's a normal human just like you or me. And he's probably in a lot of pain still as a result, but he's a what happened to shoot himself on the dick. Yeah, he crumples he, okay. He takes it to the dick and just like anyone who takes shot to the dick if it will have, if you don't have Dick's. But the people who do have Dick's they know what it feels like it's horrible and he just throws his hips back like and then just collapses to the ground in front of like seventy thousand front of a lot of people. My favorite, not my favorite part, but a a huge bonus to this video is it. He's heroin carted off the field like key the injury, like a two time, all American who blew his knee out and the crowds just, you know. Here is a cheer, of course, and he wears his head off the field on the card, and it's truly the whole video is just absolutely incredible. Yeah, there's a couple of different viewpoints. All you have to do is Google chip the buffalo and this the so many articles are gonna pop. This has been beaten to death, but I was not going to not talk about this. He's getting carted off the field with the fucking mascot helmet. He's way like I'm okay. And he gives the thumbs up waves to the crowd and they cheer for him. Meanwhile, he his, his dick and balls are just the obliviated and the live reporting from the scene like all the tweets from when it happened or like I heard a loud bang and saw chip down, seems like a malfunction with a t shirt cannon. It's not a malfunction. He pointed at his car to user air user. The barrel turned pointed right at his dick turns out there's actually a chip the buffalo, Twitter account. It's verified. It's legitimately him and he's tweeted since I'm good guys. Thanks for all the love. So hopefully is. Okay. What's funny because you when you saw the video. I thought it was pretty funny because you thought it was part of the AC. I thought it was lanell. I thought it was on purpose, and I was like, that is a very funny mascot schtick good for him. He's a good mascot. I didn't realize it was actually when you see the second angled it, I think it it's all the light of day maybe yesterday point. It's it's up close and you can see him it. The reaction is very often. He's not. Yeah, he does not expect to be pelted in the groin with a t shirt. Don't. It was don't. It was an accident this. The problem here as I see it is that I'm not sure this can ever be topped in terms of mascot moments like we may have peaked here. Yeah, that's unfortunate that this may be as good as it gets. Forever. That's true. Nobody ever could have dreamed that we'd even have this funny of moment. I'm just it's also beautiful because it's shipped the buffalo and the university of Colorado Boulder's Natori party school. This is probably just some kid who did too much coke the night before, and his brain wasn't properly working. So he turned the t shirt cannon the wrong way and shot his cock. And what's amazing about this accident is that usually when you shoot one of these things and we all see him, you know. They hold it off to the side like traditional rifle right or or maybe like from the gut, no one ever seen the butt of a rifle or a t shirt cannon pointed straight at the guys dick now when you were little kid and you get like a Nerf gun for the first time or whatever it some point as a little kid. That's a boy, a little boy. You know, you have a penis at some point in your life. You hold something like steady it on your dick and then you and you think to yourself, oh, this is a really bad. I just feels not right. And then you learn to never do that ever ship the buffalo just didn't learn that he's using his buffalo dick as a means to prop up the gun which he then fires directly into himself. But he had the barrel pointed at his dick and not the crowd. This is the like with the samurais due to commit Hari carreer or whatever they stabbed themselves. Is the mascot version of that you shoot yourself in the dick with a with a t shirt. Can he just crumples and he hits the turf. I mean, it's unbelievable. You gotta go. Watch the video thoroughly made. I mean this JR. It made our week here at the office every day. I may have watched five hundred times at this. Oh my God. It's so good any. Thank you for coming on and talking about it for few minutes with as always a pleasure. I need some share the moment. Yeah. Where can people fall you doing? People can follow me on Instagram and Twitter at d. chivalry but more importantly, check out my new. I got a new podcast. Go on the mail, the mail bag. It is available on grandad's labs currently, hopefully getting its own feed very soon. It's fun. We just kind of answer questions from from listeners, and we talk about pretty much anything and you bring in guests bringing guests. I'm gonna have you on their soon? Oh, yeah. I don't know if you knew that that'll be cool. I don't know if I look forward to. Yes, someone said you don't do podcast already gonna fill. I need to do more of you have been saying that. Yeah, check out the mail bag on. I'd seen subscribed fall Dylan on Twitter, Instagram. I don't know if you Snapchat, then I really don't care. But yet pray for the buffalo. Pray for chip purrs for chip lovey Bill. Thanks next segment. Houston rap song of the week. We're working it on Friday here. It's actually eleven eleven AM right now. Please pause while I make a wish. I'm just kidding. The song of the week is called Rydin by Camilion air or Shamila Nair just Commissioner. Typically this song is mistaken. People think the name is riding dirty. That's not the name of the song is just riding. Now in hindsight, I'm sure wish I Cam wishes. He named the song Rydin dirty that that's what everybody refers to it as. But anyway, came out in two thousand five on the album. The sound of revenge. One of the Houston. Now booms that broke through to the mainstream in the year of two thousand five Commissioner was one of the artists that was routinely featured on BT MTV. He got some nationwide love as a result of the Houston rap moving kind of exploding and the sound of revenge being his album that. He put out for the whole country to enjoy in the whole world when he was in the spotlight. This particular song became a massive hit. I believe it went platinum in the single range or whatever. You know how that works. I don't know. It's fucking totally different than it is now do thirteen years ago, but it was produced by this this to some named play in skills, which I have no idea where those guys they were big in in Houston. RAB back in two thousand five. I have. No, who knows where the were playing skills ended up terrible name by the way, and it was featuring crazy bone of bone thugs and harmony. I also don't know where he, yeah, did not realize crazy. Bone was like one of the remaining bones that was still in bone thugs at that point. I don't know if he is now the whole songs about Rocha racial profiling police brutality. The stereotyping of African Americans driving vehicles with drugs or contraband inside them meeting, they're writing dirty or whatever. Had a pretty cool music video that was shot in Dallas, Texas features, cameo appearances from lazy bone play. Lane skills, Chinga bling. We little grabber. He was known for selling tamales out of the back of his car. That's a great song. That's a real thing he did, but he talks about it too. Yeah, OG big hood. Big tuck was in the video commissioners brother, resign everybody member, resigned. If you were big Cam fan back in the day, you a million with resign. Rydin dirty was the title of view. G ks, nineteen Ninety-six album, which we've actually featured songs from as the Houston rap song of the week before commune air often cites riding dirty, the k. album as one of his all time favorite records. So obviously that's kind of where the name in the chorus came into to play here for him on his hit song ride. But that's class. I remember he did a a Astros themed remix after this came out the the answer is made made a run. Yeah, and I forget what it was what it was called, but it was excellent. There's I believe that's the version they play after every home win. Now. I think they might still do that, but I love this song. Everybody knows that they see me role in the, hey, maybe that was turn it up patrolling insurance. Catch me riding dirty. Yeah, it's a, it's a class. Yeah, I love this song. So that's using rap song of the week. And that's the show today, your legal obligations as as you now have them are two one port one to one friend about the show, a family member, a coworker and neighbor, anyone human individual that you believe would enjoy the Rosebowl in podcast, you got one person per week every week until the day. You die, recommend the show to them. The only other thing you have to do and this is one that you only do one time. You've taken care of it for life. First of all, you should be subscribed, but you should go to apple podcasts or I tunes or whatever. Search the Ross Bohlin podcast, take twenty seconds to rate in review. You scroll down. You'll see it stars and you'll see a little click five stars, right? A quick review. About why you like the show why it is that you listen to. It means the world to me. It will save both a lot of time and money. We don't have to go to court. It's not a joke. It's very real. 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Normally, we're quite new, not quite good, but we're better than we were last night and we have a lot of fun doing it. Most importantly, we get some some friends of the show like Houston, Astros players or whatever will come stream with as well, and we have a good time. So add both of those and mica work in the Rb p gang fall. You on social media in fall me at Mike whiner m. i. c. h. w. e. n. e. r. on Twitter and Instagram. And you know if you were falling me yesterday, you would have seen the most electric pick segment of the week, the power plant, and I did pick a winner. I've picked a winner on Sunday. I've picked a winner on Thursday. I'm going to be coming at you with another winter. This Sunday night get excited. The power plant at Michael winer mica is becoming quickly one of the the fast rising gambling Tout's of the universe. That's right. Two in a row, Monday and Thursday, and Sunday is going to be three. Can't wait. 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We did a stuff to Wikipedia when you're high on the ghost army, which was very cool goal is in a big peer in the day. Hey, boy, you Mike is read of the week was fantastic as well. Again this week with lady Gaga. And then yesterday, of course, on Rb p eighty four, we did into the jungle with live Langdon. Also the desert were live, landed. It was a lot of good content. She came on and talked about going into the jungle in Peru, and having a plant medicine journey tripping her face off, change your whole perspective on shit. And she also shared her experience going to burning man with us, which is one of the wildest things I've ever heard. It sounds fake like something from a movie definitely go listen to in the jungle with live lane and thank you all for supporting us here at the Rose Bowl and podcast for continuing interact with Mike and I on all the different social media's having a ton of phone with you guys the best listeners in the world, they supporting each other. 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Archives : les mercatos radio de 2014  2019, avec Damien Peuleux d'Histoires Radiophoniques

Des Ondes Vocast

16:34 min | 1 year ago

Archives : les mercatos radio de 2014 2019, avec Damien Peuleux d'Histoires Radiophoniques

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A Marvel Style Post Credit Librocube First

The Librocube

34:28 min | 2 years ago

A Marvel Style Post Credit Librocube First

"So. Making your way in the world today. Take everything you this comes to us from Jordan Maywood, except we have Jordan. He's gonna challenge you got for Jordan Maywood. Yes. Would may. Hello. This is at the possibility exists that if I were to actually listen to the liberal cute podcast, featuring host Jordan may would I could potentially enjoy. Are we gonna Dorsey, I guess potentially? Enjoy this episode which will start after the other half of by magical comedy duo teller gives us a countdown. It away teller. Hollow come to the liberal cube money, Jeremy with an I am be lackadaisical. Liberal cubicle. Lists this show is a journal of the personal variety. But not so personal. But I don't post it on the internet three to listen to that's dumb. Journal in which I pour forth all the media. I have consumed, and let me tell you this up sewed has a lot of it's not a lot because it's two separate worth a lot learned that in grade seven. No, no, no, a allots because I consume a lot because it helps to escape from this thing, we call reality, which is quite often horrible. Further. Do I will push button will start a series of five five minute timers? Oh, perhaps I should warn that you may not have consumed some of this media yourself. So the possibility that I would spoil it for you does exists. It does exist. Some things. Monologue. Today's movie monologue sponsor is unintentional groundhog day movie. Monologues? Thank you for your sponsorship movie. The first is the second in a franchise that I believe is only two, but there might be more. I don't know the hills have eyes to should come as no surprise. If you listen to the last episode where the MRs and I watched the hills have eyes one though, that's what it's called. This is called the hose on size. That I was going to watch this because that's how I like to roll. We actually watched it together. Similar to I think other horror movies, if that's what you would call this probably this less than the first one calling it a horrible view that is takes the turn into more of an action movie than a horror movie, which is not unusual. This one really does. So to the degree where the the means sort of characters on the first one or just a family trapped to desert, and then these mutants. Of a radiated sort of folk come and kill them as you do a radiated hillbillies, probably an alternate title. I would assume this one ups the action by having the family replaced by army people. Never such more blatant. Let's up the action by replacing family with army people come on come on. Said their trainees, I guess that cuts a little bit the action Eunice suppose question, Mark. If you like the first one, you might not like this one they are somewhat different. It's still radiated hillbillies killing people in gruesome fashion, more of a gore fest than a horror fast rating wise as long as you go in this expecting not much two and a half or less. I will give it depending on your mood. Yes. It's a mood dependent movie moving on speaking of moods. Segue Gothica the mood of insanity. We'll call it. This also watch with MRs per her request actually repressed few male psychiatrists wakes up as a patient in the asylum where she worked with no memory of why she's there what she is done which she has done is murder husband, which is a good thing to do the fact that and you know, what I'm almost positive that. Among the MRs favorite movies are more. Than one in which husbands are killed, by wives. Yep. That's so for that reason, I give this three out of five. This is probably a second viewing of this. Although I didn't really remember anything. It's a fine movie. It's interesting since we're on a deadline of time. I feel like I cannot give away. But just say, it's definitely takes a while before you figure out what's going on which I appreciate in a movie, I always say, I like movies where I've no idea what's going to happen next. This reaches a point where eventually you do. But but still three three to five moving on to blood punch. This was one that I've had forever and just didn't watch for some reason, which I don't know. I didn't because I liked it. Young man is lured into a dangerous love triangle that begins to take a series of shocking and grizzly super natural churns that was a natural burp, which is why I did it. They're totally on purpose. Swear to God. Yeah. The supernatural turns come in the form of a Greenwich day scenario in which these two this young man, and this young woman are reliving the same day over and over again, some sort of never really one hundred percent pinpointed why it's happening. It's like an ancient Indian burial grounds. Majesty thing, I guess question. Mark anyways. It didn't really mad or why it's happening for the purpose of the story. It's just that. How do you break? This loop in grad Han day. Of course, it's, you know, living your best life here. It's killing one another. Yes, killing lots and lots of killing one interesting little bit of this that it's something you don't expect of a movie of this type. Okay. So you got this love triangle, quote, unquote, I kill someone in this love triangle and then restart the day, the body of that person is still there like the dead body of the person who ever killed is still wherever I left it usually buried or hidden in some way, but so sort of an interesting idea, which leads to the sort of conclusion if this is an infinite loop, and it was never broken eventually, the entire globe is it's going to be filled with writing courses. So, you know. Split punch, ladies and gentlemen. Four to five. Last. But not least we're at a time. And I did want to hold to the schedule. Let her out another bloody one. Get along summary. I'll tell you what we'll do for this one since it's a long summary, and sometimes summaries are funny. This read the summary give my review and we'll call it quits for this segments. Literature follows Helen a bike courier who suffers traumatic accidents as she recovers. She begins to experience. Strange episodic blackouts, hallucinations and nightmares. The lead her. Discover she has a tumor is a tumor. I ended that a benign tumor that is the remnants of a vanishing twin quote unquote absorbed in utero, which is an album. Over time the tumor metaphysics that self as dark and demented version of a stranger. Helens, emotional and psychological state begins to deteriorate further and further. She begins to act in psychotic episodes that are influenced by her evil twin making her a danger to or self and her best friend, Molly. And a lot of other people that she fucking fucks up pardon the swearing. It's three to four out of five. I enjoyed it. Very buddy though. Very. Television talk. Today's television, talk sponsor is jokes on blue cards. Thank you for that sponsorship. Okay. Powered through and it was only how many episodes is that I have to click on a button, I should have been prepared and not have to have pushed that button. One two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven eleven ten sometimes counted, ten episodes of the show on Netflix a show that I'm going to refer to going forward as norm McDonald has a show because that's what it's called. Yes. Huge huge norm Donald fan. Norm. Donald head is such a thing exists. I don't know. But I would be one just the something about him. I put him into the category of people, and there's not many who I would say this about of people who I think could sit read a phone book and make it humorous. He is among the people who could do. So. Just the the comic timing the sound of his voice, the cadence of his voice, the he he's got this whole thing for your bit of an odd duck, which is not unusual among the comedic, obviously if you've ever listened to his podcast. Well, this is a classic classic which I feel like I'm brought up in while a envy pity situation where if you've never listened to his podcast, I pity you. But if you've never in listened to the norm MacDonald podcast, I envy, you for the reason you have all of those episodes to go back and listen to the classic liberal Q pity envy situation, which you could also do now, which I have done is watch his show on Netflix, which I will say is perhaps not as good. Yeah. It's just for one reason one reason only on the podcast. I think most episodes. I'm curious what the ratio would be be much different than the show the ratio on talking of is comedians as guests, whereas here, he does have comedians as guests, but I would say the majority in fact are not. So nothing say that there aren't interesting, and they are good, and there aren't laughs and every single episode no matter what because of norm Donald. The ones with the comedians are far and above just like crying laughing at points. So. Let me read down the guest David Spade. For example, those episode or one if you prefer Larry David Letterman Chevy Chase. That was interesting. Knowing what if you know anything of Chevy Chase IRL, let's say he's a bit of a huge asshole. So that the sort of peek through I feel like it can't not. I talked to MRs into watching one episode the one with judge Judy because she actually watches that show. That one was interesting a little peek behind the scenes and just made me think how his just Schutte sitting down with McDonald that right? There is little sort of interesting peek into things that can happen in show business. We got 'em. Sean Michael Keaton was a fascinating one. He was he's not a quote, unquote comedian. I would say he's a comedic actor. But normally Donald said well on several occasions over the course of this interview that Michael Keaton is one of the funniest comedians that has ever worked an actually didn't know that he started as a stand up, so interesting. I don't know. I didn't know that being a lover of stand up and someone who prides themselves on at least some stand up knowledge to have no McDonnell, tell me this guy who I've seen a million times used to be one of the best stand ups ever was shocking to me, I've got more and Michael's that was good m night Shyamalan. Yeah. Interesting one Jane Fonda, she is a bit of an odd duck. I think is well, you're berry. More. They seem to get along. Really? Well, she's just like so upbeat and happy sort of jumped off the screen with her her vivacious nece is a word I could possibly use yet. Just just a delight that one actually. And less on lease Billy, Joe shaver. He of all these guesses lonely when I had never heard of the norm said, it is best friend. So I don't know if that was for the purposes of the show or actually factually truth. But apparently, he's a country singer. Missing a bunch of fingers. Something regardless you know, what I'll do rating, although the podcast five five and this just a little less than that. Banter? Today's book banter sponsor is the just beacause which is a apiary specific law firm, just because. Okay. We're talking. Why does the world exists in excess -sential detective story by Jim ahold? Yes. A rare almost never happens in a book banter on this podcast treading into nonfiction. And I will say on that note. I did finish this. Yeah. I liked it. It's an interesting read, you will find your reading this and new pathways in your brain will open up and sort of fascinating thoughts will pour in which I do enjoy. It's just. Read like, I consume a lot of this media for the purposes of escaping scaping or escaping. If you prefer saying electric correctly. Screwing up on saying the word correctly is funny to me. Anyways. Yeah. I read for the purposes of escaping into my brains from the real world, which is why fantasy and sue slightly lesser extent. Sifi my favorite generous. Because that gives you a further escape then things that are happening in the real world. And in even further escape, then this which is a nonfiction exploring. Why is there a world rather than nothing? Why are we here that sort of I d? Me read the good reads or it's a long one. Okay. Well, we'll see how we do. And I suppose I could have picked out some of the points of the chapters that the sort of delve into they are all interesting just get my rating despite not finishing it. I think if this sounds interesting to do to you give it a higher Mark than I would. And that is my rating. Why is their world rather than nothing at all remains the darkest and most enduring of all metaphysical mysteries following in the footsteps of Christopher Hitchens, Roger Penrose, and even Stephen hawking Jim Hoke now enters this fractious debate with his lively and deeply informative narrative that really narrative that was my other. I was expecting more of a story as the word story. Here's the title announcing narrative, I didn't really find so much of a story anyways that traces the latest efforts to grasp the origins of the universe. The slyly humorous Holt takes on the role of cosmological. Detectives suggesting that we might have been too narrow in limiting our suspects to y'all. Hey, Jesus versus the big Bank, which I do like that he offers other possibilities than God. Or science sorts of straddles them bet which is interesting idea. Tracking down in Centric. Oxford philosopher of physics Nobel laureate. A French Buddhist monk who lived with the Dalai Lama and John Updike just before he died. Holt pursues unexplored angles to this cosmic puzzle pieces together, a solution one that sheds new light. Does he have a solution? Maybe I didn't get to the solution. But I soon there wasn't really a solution at the type of book where it's not like I'm going to read to the end. And like, oh, okay. So that's why the exist. I feel like I didn't miss out on that by not completing the book anyways as pieces together solution when the sheds new light on the questions of God and the meaning of existence. He offers brisk philosophical asides on time and eternity consciousness and the arithmetic of nothingness. Yeah. That was interesting. My brain don't do math. Good. But when he did get into his math of these sort of very subjects. He did that did that well to made it for a math idiot like myself to to graphs onto the concept. So that appropriate. All in all. Worth read. Do I come away from a book like this feeling smarter? Probably one thing. I was tried to keep in mind, though, is the that thought that there's a theory of this. I forget what it's called that the more you. The smarter. Think you are you reach a level where you sort of realized how truly ignorant ignorant you are. Yeah. There's something about that. And we're out of time. Unfortunately, I'm sure I was gonna say really smart things in the second. Today's game. Gavin sponsor is Bose voices in head cancelling headphones. Thank you for that sponsorship. I love you Bose. We're talking hell blade colon. Send you 'as sacrifice. This little gem from what year twenty seventeen for some reason. I thought it was older than that. Yeah. Yeah. Came mode, I guess last year critically acclaimed. I don't know how well it did commercially just for the reason that it's a little artsy. Fartsy you kinda sorta kinda sort of let me explain you play. They girl in the I guess. It's like taking place in Celtic times would be how you would look at it. And she has as I would call them from a person who has had them themselves. Breen issues. Mine was in the form of depression. Hers are probably more severe in the form of I would assume. Well, she's like hearing voices and seeing things so you know. More serious than what I had. Yeah. But nonetheless, as I like to refer to bring stuff, so you're sort of going through this game through her eyes and living as it is third person. But it does a good job of third person in making you feel like you are essence of one of the voices in her head, which is sort of a cool experience, and there's times throughout and early on where she looks directly at the camera, and sort of talking to you, and feels very interactive in that sense that you're controlling her because it's video game, and it's their person. But there's also times where she sort of looks at you. And it's very it's sort of creepy, and there's a lot of creepy in this game. One thing it mentions at the top, which I didn't do I will admit is to play with headphones on. I didn't do it. Because I. I don't know. I thought maybe it'd be a little too creeped out just having had brain stuff in the bathroom. Maybe maybe just the thought of experiencing it that profoundly kind of scared me a little bit and on the note of scaring. There was even without doing that. It's just like throw at the game. You'll hear whispers just two straight out people talking to you in your brain. And you'll see things there was one section in particular where basically the whole world goes dark, and there's things in the darkness that can sort of censor sound and movement. And they're just sort of hideous to behold, and you're only sort of catching glimpses of them as they move about. That part was creepy that combined with the sort of sometimes screaming in your head of your sort of slowly being driven insane or and sometimes not so slowly being driven insane. Thus the other thing is that this. By the end of it. You're sort of not sure. And this is something I like, look, you're fighting things and you're seeing things, and you're you're imperil, and you can quote unquote, die. But but one thing from the beginning to the end, I think maybe someone can prove me wrong. But I think you can't quite tell if the dangers that you are experiencing our real or if they're just taking place in your head. And if you're just sort of wandering around a forest or wandering through some ruins, and none of the stuff that can harm you actually there in real life like in terms of gameplay at can like they'll be fighting sequences where things will sort of come over the shadow of big warriors that you'll have to fight and dodge and on the note of the fighting was good little Batman Arkham asylum. Me light. Let's call it. But it was good. And then I was had that thought as I was having those battles is actually happening. When this person hits me is someone actually they're hitting me. Or is it just like like in TD is like a psychic damage that's damaging the o- on the note of damage. They warn earlier on that you can die in a few die enough times. Die will put in quotes your game. Sees will be a race. Which was also in the back of my head. I did beat the game. So it didn't happen rating wise. I really really got into it like four and a half to five five very very, very good. Interesting. Internet intercourse. I like good. Today's movie monarch sponsor is unintentional groundhog day movie. Monologues? Thank you for your sponsorship. Moving the first happy death day, a college student must relive the day of her murder over and over again in a loop that will end only when she discovers her killer's identity. Yes. In invertebrates, double movie, monologue groundhog day scenario movies. Yeah. Did not plan that it just sort of happened. I just had these movies. You know, what I did like I'll have a bunch of movies like a file full of movies. And then when I want to clean them like when they've sort of piled up a bit. I find the ones I don't watch are the ones where I'll read the title. And it'll be like I've no idea what this is about. And then I'll just watch them. Like, let me give you an example on the open the file here. Okay. So like if I see boogie nights. I know what boogie nights is. I've seen boogie nights. If I see vendors, affinity war. I know what that is. Sure. Right. I could watch it. Now, if I see a movie called punching Henry, I don't actually know what that's about. I have. I'd have to go to to see it. And every once in a while, I'll cle- clear out ones like that. Anyways, such as happy deaf day, which I ended up very much like seems like what my favorite episode of Stargate was Stargate, Atlantis Stargate. Stargate s g one was the groundhog day one and these two movies that have groundhog day like scenarios, I very much like and the movie. Hey what? While we're at it groundhog day frigging one of my favorite movies of all time that gets five hundred five this. I'll go like three points and change plus three less than four somewhere in that neighborhood. That was Senator my one sort of great. She has to discover her killer's identity the killer wears a mask. She was killed by this person over and over again, she never in her sort of death throes or part of her plan. Never seems to be pulling the person's mask off. So I was kind of felt that was like sometimes the person's right in front of her with a knife in and they're just sort of standing there, and she could easily just reach up and grab the mass. But no never seems to occur to her. So she's got to do some detective work to figure it out. Whatever happy the the private is. This is an interesting. I think I maybe hurt someone mentioned on a podcast or something like that. Yes. Starring Tim Conway and Don Knotts, so yeah, we're going old school here. I think this falls into the category of movies who when people saw it as a child the sort of. Remember it very very fondly. I think that's sort of a context I heard about it. I did not see it as a child. And despite that fact, I to say, quote, she just done stupid laughs in it as you can imagine the Tim Conway and Don Knotts movie, you're going to have some dumb stupid laughs. And I liked it. Probably like a four to five came in the year before I was born. That's interesting. Okay. Talking Pacific rim. Colon uprising this one. It's fine. It's an actiony. It's not as good as the first. I wish I could give. Look back in time to see what I reviewed would have reviewed the first on this podcast. So, you know, we'll tell you what Scott Eastwood Clint Eastwood son didn't even realize that Charlie day. He was good in it. Okay. So rating this is this is going to be one of my more convoluted ratings, which I enjoy you. Find on this podcast, whatever I gave a rating to Pacific rim the first one. So you're not to scroll back and find it you listen to that episode. And then take a take a point off of that one homework. Speaking of homework. That's not a segue. That's gonna make sense lock stock and two smoking barrels. Yes, man. Haven't seen this in some years. Always have sort of fun. Remembrance of it and men. Does it stand up? Yeah. Just like a perfect this kind of movie, I often speak of how dark comedies I do believe or probably, but most of my favorite movies would fit into a dark comedy zoned. Ru this very much included a card game in London triggers. Four friends thugs. We'd growers hard gangsters loan sharks and debt collectors to collide. With each other in a series of unexpected events, all for the sake of we'd cash and to antique, shotguns. Yeah. That's what I like the just sort of Brandon convergences of these sort of disparate groups of guys. No, no women was there. If they could do version where at least one of the women that would be good. Still holds up five to five. If you haven't seen it yourself a favor. It's nice to be nice to that ice. Where is it? It is. Donna. I like Ron this is the end of the show sincere. Thank you for listening time to some things, and I do not, but you can like Asaf ace book you can follow Jordan underscore Maywood on Twitter. You can subscribe and comment on I tunes. Lastly if you would like to contact the podcast you can eat make Jordan dot up mail dot com. I would like to conclude that roll back, and I have. Me. A demon dancing. Demon. The best is yet to come in. Voting. You think you seen but you see? Two. Underweight waiting to. We see that sun shining. Seen nothing. Voted. This yet to live long and prosper. New. Evening when you knew. New new new. But but but the bone newness quiz. Yes. Yes. You heard it here. Bonus clips. Oh shit. Almost forgot see this is the first time first time, I'm doing this. So obviously, there's going to be heirs mistakes, this cleanup conversation. Sponsored by the mega directive. Thank you for that sponsorship. Okay. Yeah. Just came up with this idea forgets why? Or how that oh, yeah. Thought it would make my life easier. So go. The cage Italy, I will have things that I watch that would be difficult to fit into the podcast or maybe in this case. Just had an extra thing that didn't fit. So I wanted to throw it in basically, I just found I was quite often consuming media with an eye for the podcast. And sometimes it would come in like, oh, yeah. You know, what I don't wanna watch a movie because I've already watched for movies. I only need four for the podcast, and then I don't wanna make those decisions anymore. If I wanna watch a movie, I'm going to watch a movie, so I'm not gonna let the podcast run my life anymore. Yeah. So without in mind occasionally post credits, you we will have a little as I have called it a cleanup conversation to fit in with the theme of a word, and then a word that means talking. So today, it's have a little brief one. I played another game called there. Colon omega edition, so presumably there's more than one editions of. Although I couldn't find any. There might be just the one on steam very much reminiscence of F T L faster than light differences being your ship consort of land, and you can. It's basically faster than light with with slightly different things. You can do. Yeah. Boiled down. Now is that about thing? No. Because they did a very good job. And I had a lot of fun. I find something I'm doing lately when it comes to steam. And I think I'm gonna keep this up for the rest of my life in that is. During the sales by shit ton of games, and then all sort of play through them, and then I'll beat it. And then I'll uninstall it. And then I'll probably maybe never played again. Or when it comes to games like this that I had so much fun and so much a replay ability. I beat it. And then I'm gonna leave it installed. Just like FT L, for example. Like I bought that in every once in a while those have a craving to play it. In all it off. And it'll be installed stall. It'll be ready to go. So I have games now that I've played and beaten or played and stop playing that I leave installed what I should do. This is a mental note to myself, and that is make a list of those games should something happen to my PC. And I have to get a new one. And then I have to download all the games. I I wanna know the ones that fall into this category. So that's a mental note to me and maybe to yourself. Hey, this is not a bad idea. It's not the most horrible thing. You've heard today. I imagined rate question, Mark, audience participation. Yes. It's still nice to be nice to the nice.

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Hour 3: Callers

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 3: Callers

"Pride passion than patterns. Three of college football leaves here. The paul finebaum show our three podcast. We welcome you back. The second half of the program is live. What else would it be. We'll talk to the commissioner of the sec. A little bit later on as well as a head coach of the baseball. The arkansas baseball team and right now pat is up next. Hey pat hey paul thank you very much. You're absolutely right. There's there's nothing like some kosher dill to go with the fresh deli sandwich and maybe a cold draft. Let's let's have one right now. okay i wanted to ask you about harbaugh. I thought i heard you say michigan was paying him half his contract amount. That's that is correct. Yeah they cut it They they cut it in half he agreed to it and they also knocked down the buyout considerably just shows you how how they were desperate to do not to make a change but also wanted wanted to do it on their terms and quite frankly pat i hear stories like that around the country in the business world to it's a it's a different the back end of the pandemic you may see everyone rushing out but the business model has changed for a lot of places you you were you were in the accounting world. You know what. I'm talking about now. Absolutely you're right now are putting the the fifty percent in a christmas club to buy him out to me. What it says and had disagreed. She she really feels like they're you know the bar has been lowered. I think they're essentially saying we don't. We didn't want to have to go out and hire a new coach. In covert year. I realized a lot of s four. Sec schools did and started. But i think michigan's a little bit different. I think they wanted to do it. More deliberately. and say okay. Last year didn't count. You were terrible. We'll give you a break but you really got one more shot and if you can't turn it around now then you'll never turn it around. Listen data rather telling story when you go out and recruit. I mean what i think. Yeah i think i. I don't think it really matters. Because i don't think great players are going there anyway so to me. It's a really sad story of a guy that if you remember when he arrived there seven years ago it was the big story in college football and look and and now it's become really kind of embarrassing And we it was more fun. Three or four years ago in michigan fans would fight back. But they don't they don't have the michigan fans. Don't talk back anymore. They're they're all they're all under a rock somewhere. Well i don't know. I i agree with you. People with some amount of pride and professionalism would just you know leave the job and go find something else to do but But anyway that's hey edwige it's not jim harbaugh. I don't blame jim harbaugh. I mean he's still you know. Here's here's what people have to understand that you understand it. Of course you've been in the business world so he was making eight million dollars a year. They just decided that he was being overpaid. Four million is too much for this guy so he's still making a lot of money more than most all of us and he's you know you think it really matters you tell me you. You've you've looked at people's tax returns Whether i if you if you made eight million for the last seven years and you also made a lot of money as a player and then later as a coach something tells me. He's probably not. You know clipping coupons. Now you're you're you're absolutely right once again but but there's two factors there it's it's And and one of them is he may be completely satisfied with back and four million a year instead of a dramatic not care and the other thing is it depends on house. Houses invested everything right and by the way for the record before i get a call from my wife. She does clip coupons. So i don't wanna like there's anything wrong with that i have never been. I have never been to a grocery store yet when she says. We're gonna hand to hand the coupons to the clerk and i'm going okay. Whatever well my wife does too. And she gets her biggest kicks when she gets a five dollar rebates from kroger after having spent two or two or three. My my mother my late mother. Who you've heard me talk about. We would drive ten miles across town to save two cents on gasoline. Absolutely spend more getting there and getting again. People don't understand me. She was a child of the depression. And you know coupons were if you didn't cut coupons you weren't you weren't you weren't following the lead well. My mother was a child of the depression too and she never had a birthday party until she was eighty. Five years old. That's amazing well. I hope that is a good one at eighty five. She'd stayed at one more point If if michigan keeps the status quo with harbaugh the only players. They're going to get our michigan legacies. Even get and i've heard this is unconfirmed. Pat that ryan day has offered more money to jim. Harbaugh's contract he'll he'll he'll pay a year salary if if they'll extend the contract again. Yes thanks thanks for the call. Appreciate it and always good to hear from you. I mean that it's just embarrassing but again can you imagine in the sec. That story happening. i mean. They don't four coaches last year. A couple of the year before and how many times last year at this point we talked to guys like ross and john tall and you know some of the best reporters and columnists in the league and they all said in cova and discovered year. I think everyone's going to be safe. Well it it. It didn't happen that way. Let's continue more phone. Calls and mark is up next to. Hey mark go right ahead yeah mark. You're on the air. Go right ahead. I talked about Just wanted to Let you know that you're caller from pittsburgh. It's one hundred percent correct pickle ball. Okay is the hottest. Sport is the hottest sport in america. I used to be a big tennis player. My son played tennis for alabama for ten family. But i play cook about six times so A week close to. It is more fun. It's half the size of a tennis court and the are larger than a People but it is a wiffle ball in action is quick. I'm playing in this tournament In hoover it saddens ally. It's first week of june. Okay i'll be. I'll be seventy one. Oh my goodness he's be seventy two and My doubles partner Is forty five. So i have to play in the forty five. I'm playing mixed doubles my partner thirty five so i was looking at the draw the other day. And everybody's thirty five and forty five. And i think i'm going to just kinda tournament right now i'm going to have to because You know my athletic skill right now at an all time low so this would be pretty exciting. Well i'll i can pay. We're trying to get more people. My tennis buddies said i used to play with to get involved. Okay did it is one hot sport. They wanted to hear it. I i am. i'm all over it. Hey thank you for sharing. That it shows you what What the covert here. Does it prompts new and better sports for elder elderly elderly year. Let's continue and frank is up next. Hey frank paul. Hey there what's up you gotta keep talking on the. Espn about how he don't play for green bay. No more right so if playing well first of all. He's under contract right now. Frank and i i all i was saying. Today i was reacting to what the ex green bay packers damage said when he called him a diva. I was simply saying that A quarterback you should be involved in conversations with management because they are the most important person on the team and they also do whether they make twenty five or thirty five million dollars a year and he probably makes the high end of that. He's a great player and he was disrespected by his team last year. When they drafted a quarterback what did he do he went out and had the best season of his career should have gone to the super bowl but coach was too stupid To to to go for two point conversions in the fourth quarter and any cost he costs rogers a chance for the comeback. A new royal matt. Aaron rodgers does need to quit. I mean if they wanna get rid of them they can. They know how to know how to do it. I just think he's getting a bad rap. I think he's a great player. And i think he's a good leader and we really don't know what he wanted. I mean if you're disrespected by your bosses what are you supposed to do. Sit there and take it every day or look around for another job. you're right. I thought about that but right but you know you see it every day. All the news and you know go. You're making millions of dollars and then you get here complain about your job right me job. Yeah i understand what you're saying. And i think for most of this. It's hard to relate Here's a guy that is making you know he's making thirty five million dollars a year. We are not supposed to feel sorry for him. But but i will also tell you and i i happen to run into guy not too long ago. Who who's in in that realm. You doesn't quite make that much but he's one of the top. Nfl players and he's going through it himself and suddenly you really start to wonder about yourself when they don't wanna do it. You know you get hurt. They don't wanna negotiate with you. Everyone has egos even those who make thirty five million dollars a year but the average folks We really tend not to be too concerned about them like We would An irregular working person. We'll take a break more to come. We are back after this. You're listening to the paul finebaum show podcast do own or rent your home share you and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. It's geico easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com. Wnba is on its way back playing basketball in a pandemic looks like this. No mask no six feet apart to put yourself in harm's way. It was a scary decision. We are dedicating this season. To ron taylor the unity that we were able to experience with something that we won't forget and we can lean on as we move forward. I'll do it all over again because bigger than me to figure then my teammates. Espn films presents. One forty four presented by honda now streaming on espn plus. We've got some baseball for you later in the week. Florida and arkansas. Hard to get a better game than that number nine team versus number one team that is tomorrow night and we'll talk to the coach of the razorbacks about forty five minutes and let us get back to your phone calls right now and glenn is up next. Hey glenn thank you good afternoon. Many yes it is start again. I listened for several days Talking heads and people calling in are criticizing tibo. I don't know whether it's worthy of a spot or not in a statement work as this. No one does more for the special needs community. That jeff davis foundation. Every kid wants to go to prom is foundation pays for the throne days for food or talk refers. Dj for all the special things get. I got the girls a tear. The the boys get a crown and then they get pictures taken. They posted online. So it's job. These people get over their jealousy of tim. T i don't think any which objectively. But i know this one year i think it was over. Two hundred thousand people went to bomb. special needs. People went to prom because kim tvos foundation and kilometers talking heads on. Espn say the same thing. They've done the same thing no doubt they can know. That's something you think. He does every year. And i know he does every year. And it's it's. It's a big part of the tim. Tebow foundation which is quite an operation in terms of helping people not only this country but all over the world is all over the world and he has thousands and thousands of volunteers. Every every special needs person gets a what they call a chemical rights like my son when he wendy already pretty young girl local high school. Who volunteered or night to go to prom and the girls get you know. Some some of the guys from the Took ball chamber volunteer district. Really good kids wrong to do that. Then there are other parents volunteer open on that you know and the parents can sit back and watch. We can watch them. on a on a monitor. Then so we can watch nappy. Good time we're not logical problem with him who have and they have back. There is special really really is special For him so i just wanted to say. Jr step up to the plate and doing things like that. You really shouldn't criticize somebody. Who's a fine young man doing a great thing for a lot of a special people. Take your time glenn in lenny. Make it clear. I agree with everything you've said in terms of tim but we're not talking here. Although we are about. Tim tebow the person we're talking about. Whether or not tim tebow should play professional football. And because that is the subject you get very views and i always defended the right of people to offer a fair and objective opinion. And at no time did i hear from boettger or keyshawn johnson. Keyshawn might have gotten a little more personal than bugger. Them saying the. Tim wasn't a good person. Tim tebow has not made a contribution to society and continues to. They were debating whether he should or should not be a tied in for the jacksonville jaguars. But i appreciate your call very much. Glen and i'm glad you were able to share that message about tibo. Let's move along and talk to buddy in nashville how are you good Paul called you one. Time about larry months and being the a loss of north georgia and They would you were talking about baseball earlier. And i i saw barry bonds break The hank aaron home burn record in candlestick park in san francisco. Okay another things. What do you say about the college baseball with tip. carbon vanderbilt. Well i think. Tim corbin's you could argue. Is the best coaching in college baseball. What he's done is is just fantastic and not only that. It's just a really class individual gotten to be around him a few times and you know he has meant so much to that school into that community. Another thing i'm seventy six years old graduated from st for colorado or graduate school. And what do you think about The new vanderbilt football coach carsley. I like him a lot to me. He's he's got a chance. I'm not gonna make any bold prediction about vanderbilt football. I think it's so far down that any progress would be significant. But based on what i've seen from him a far i've had one conversation with them here. Look forward to more when we start moving toward the season. I like his attitude. I think he's going to recruit fairly well. And and i think he certainly is going to bring that program out of the out of the cellar which it needs to time for it to move forward. Not keep languishing in last place. Right well as i said I told you earlier. About larry johnson being the play by play guy advantage before they play with georgia and so Talented in memphis state. Now if you voted memphis in ninety six. I was there when skin great sixty eight wherever so you played for Spooked murphy still the coach. Then i can't remember seventy six. I'm pretty sure he was. He was there. I went to those games So i i do remember. Fortunately well listen. You'd be you'd be well and and you take care of you. I'm pretty sure spook murphy was still the coach until about sixty nine or seventy when fred panco's came in but Appreciate the call Andrei is up next. Hello andrea right head coach. Paul coach you know. I wasn't gonna call my favorite coast today. But i was forced to do it. Buddy tibo cheerleader. Okay everybody knows tibo the nice gas. Everybody knows he's a great humanitarian. I'm trying to figure out what azinger booger mcfarland. A keyshawn johnson. Say about the gas so bad that these people are going after them jeb because either nice guy and a great humanitarian me. He can play between the hash marks coach now. I know you're a table fan. And i know you learned people and you know you learn. Hey hey andrei. I'm not saying. Hey andre i gotta talk to you for a second. I'm not a threatening person but you better never bring must up with tim tebow again. That's not fair. i know what you. Well i you. At least with bill. I got taken by one of the greats of all time with with champ. I got taken by by someone that i should have never gotten taken by. That was that was a bad call. Okay listen i want you to explain to me. Something okay. Coach a university of florida. You can't succeed. And that's they with that type of talent sixties as south carolina not who does not but you bleed code well for all for all of my great attributes. Andre i have a weakness been known to fall for some some some pretty Questionable people In terms of their coaching ability before what coatless at the bottom line is taliban coach gala bama last year. Now you're talent but but andrei second you say that nick sabin goes to amazon and order five stars. He does have to put well he does. He gets them delivered but he has a system in place that he created and the coaching staff and culture. That helps him able to go to his phone and press the button and do very little else but but give him credit for release putting putting the infrastructure in. Okay okay now let me ask you a question name me. One nafta champion has one and he doesn't have horses on the team. Well i mean they're i mean they're all great i mean he he he he won with the team probably twenty fifteen that he did win that game based on his coaching but He's lost with some great teams to the team. The team that got wax by clemson most talented teams but coach deavere crossing warrior sure nasty champ year but but but hey andrei. Who's your team. Who's your favorite team win. Do they not have a win. How many times does lsu blown titles with warriors are you kidding me but you gotta have them if you how you guys calling me asking about nebraska and you met him down easy really they got a chance in you know work but you don't tell them well you know you gotta look at. This show is a soap opera. Andre i mean i mean you know. You can't have luke and laura from from the eighties their wedding every day on the show. You gotta you gotta you gotta stage that down the road. Thanks for taking my call coach. Good day thank you. That was that was a reference to general hospital before steven naismith became star the show. We will take a break more to come more of your phone calls right after this. You're listening to the paul finebaum show. Podcast is playing and tom to lock in the final playoff spot. Slow gives teams something to play for. Defend your position haymakers at children and upset the your anything can happen in a given and begin your run. Only the strong survive. Make history securing performance. Or it's not done yet. State farm in tournament spurs grizzlies. At seven. Thirty eastern warriors lakers at ten tonight on. Espn we'll look at me back. You may remember earlier in the show. We gave you some of the early line so i think it was fan duel. Vegas came up with these projections again. It's may what is it may nineteenth. These things will change but it is a snapshot of the college football season. Alabama was like seventeen and a half point favorites against miami. Those games you understand the even even going as far back as the iron bowl. I was texting danny sheridan earlier about some of these lines. And and i said what about a game. That's not on the schedule. What about a game. That we think is very likely to happen. So what does that game. That is the sec championship. Game between alabama and georgia so what would a theoretical line v. Today this is today could change and sheridan said that his early line on that game right now. What do you think it is there. Anybody wanna take a guess. Okay now everybody is taking a guest He said the early line on that game would be alabama minus seven and a half so Alabama right now is is a heavy favourite to win every game. This is the this would be closest line of the year. They're everything else. I believe is double digits including at florida at auburn. Yeah they're all double digits. The lsu line was in the twenties and the only line that would be under double. Digits would be the projected game between alabama and georgia in the sec title game. Let's continue with more phone calls and talk to mike who is in missouri. Hello am i go right ahead. Yeah if i was wondering why. Espn They play everybody spring. Game over and over but eliminate lsu I really don't know Are you saying it has not been on. It was on time. And then when i went to the channel etc was on the alternate. Espn channel sec channel. And then they still had alabama right. Well i must say. And i know sometimes people look at me like i'm crazy when i say these things. I am not involved in any way with programming. I have no earthly idea how things are determined. So i'll check with someone who may Do that and how about getting your answer the next time. We talk appreciate it. What other people talk about tim. Tibo okay in about his faith and everything. So maybe it's you know pro football and everything but didn't david With his defeat goliaths that was arguably the biggest upset in sports history. Yeah there you go. Thanks for taking my call. Danny sheridan's line was on the david versus goliath. You probably had probably had some some teasers on that one let's Let's get the next call. Which is mike Mike you there. Yeah i'm here. Good thank you with interest and you recap the lines Of the different games at florida. Played and i just want to add a little context I think last year Georgia was favored to win the east and they didn't the gators won it last year. Georgia was favored by three and florida. One by sixteen last year bama was favored over florida by seventeen and a half and lost by six I put it to you. That i think dan mullen does more with less than just about any team in the sec. And then coach knee scc. And what i would like to say to you. Paul is i. Think your good luck. Charm for the florida gators. You always pick against us. And i think that is the sec Goes i think we would be remiss if that was some additional stimulus to florida playing the games. Because i know you even back when steve spurrier was dominating the sec picked against them a couple of times. So i have to think that some of that is conventional wisdom. i also think there is alumni tennessee. You probably are sick of watching. The gators beat tennessee. So by the way let me take a quick story I can't remember. I'm trying to remember what year it was a no peyton. Manning was at tennessee and it was a huge year. Maybe the game may have been in knoxville and everybody thought tennessee was going to win the game. So i write this column in the birmingham news every saturday. Yeah pick the games. And that's my big game. And i had Tennessee winning the game. Don't know thirty one. Twenty four something. If somebody's going to have to help me with. I think it was a blowout In favor of florida. If i remember correctly it was a huge game and the very next thursday i was in gainesville speaking to the The the bull. Gator group down there. And i as i go down there every year. Speak to for this reason i would. I would get sprayer. So i'd i went to practice late. Just got in and sprayer says. Hey you got a few minutes before your speech. I go sure coach. He's got to show you something back in my office. So i thought he was going to give me a gift or something. You know So we go into the office. He he reaches into his desk. He pulls out the birmingham news from last saturday. Where it says tennessee to knock off gators and he said i just thought you might want to copy this for your for your souvenir collection and he added in yellow. And everything i mean. He just had the he had the greatest time. I don't know anyone. I've ever met in intercollegiate athletics or in professional sports. Who liked to rub it in more than he did. Well that's part of the reason that gators are probably the most hated team in the sec. By all alabama but nonetheless we love him because he delivered t backed up what he said he was going to do and And i think that he'll go down As one of the great coaches ever coaching the sec. But nonetheless. I hope you keep can again. We'll we'll watch it. I am picking the gators. Go twelve this year just for you spray your love to do that told the story before. But the famous south carolina alabama. Game in two thousand ten. I on dan patrick's radio show the day before the game and i've followed darius rucker. Who was on there running his mouth in my opinion about how the day the gamecocks were going to knock off alabama alabama was number one in the country. They won the national championship year before they're prohibitive favorites game was in columbia. And i didn't know darius time i've i've gotten to know him and become very close friends and he's a fabulous guy. But i was taking some shots at darius and whatever happened wasn't he a famous group Years ago i can't remember blowfish or something and just completely disregarding his country career and then then patrick goes so what do you. What do you think Who's gonna win this game. I said absolutely i. Alabama is going to crush south carolina. He said i said south. Carolina has no chance zero chance. He and dan goes zero chance. I go zero chance and of course After the game alabama posey upset and it was one of the great scenes. I've i've ever been been on the field to watch. And i didn't. I've i've been close friends with spurrier longtime. I grew up in congratulate him. I mean i. I'm a commentator. I can live. I don't live and die with the outcome of the game. I i in fact. I was really glad i was there to see such a mammoth upset. And i said congratulations coach. And i put my arm around a man. That was a great picky. I the other day on the dan. Patrick show just classic steve spurrier. We'll take a break. We're coming back with more of your phone calls. Right after listening to the paul finebaum show podcast and we're back late wednesday and eddie is in florida. What are you got adding doing great. Hey paul so so called up to. But i'm not gonna those words those two thousand words. Okay i promise you. Utter words but I i d mike what i'm hearing from vegas. Vegas is smart right. I don't know about the other. Sec teams fall but they got alabama being everybody by eighteen all right. Do you believe that. Paul do not believe that no. I think alabama's pretty vulnerable this year. Well paul i don't know what you all but you know e- must almo- nick sabin. How are we gotta tell you why you're vulnerable because You know even though. I think the defense is going to be fantastic. I am not sure the offense is gonna look anything like what it did last year. And i don't know why you why you think you will. I will because i know. Saving that. That o'brien o'brien. Hey paul putting yourself bryan. Probably going to be better than i think. I think is fantastic. But it's his first year and you know he's he's gone from tung of jalen hurts at tunga via loa jones who nobody really saw coming and i don't care what brice yong's credentials are. He's never done it when it really matters. And do i think he can do it. Yeah i do. I think he can do it and win twelve games. I'm not so sure about that. I wanna make this prediction you right now. Okay barn injury barn injury. And i'm going to call back haul all right mark henry. He's gonna be in the heisman trophy race. And he's going to be the best quarterback in the sec. Really believe that obama fan. But but that's that's that's a pretty big town donald fan but that's quite a leap program. Well hey you're not. You're not talking to somebody. Who has picked against alabama regularly. I'm not sure. I picked against alabama in ten years. So you don't need to tell me how great alabama's while just say. I'm just trying to be realistic. I think alabama alabama. If you gave me the vegas odds do i think alabama is going to be undefeated or will lose a game. I would probably take lose a game. I would say What you and which you own that ball. But i don't agree with the gal who said that florida is the one that got knocked. I don't. I don't think you heard biting that either. I don't think. I don't think i think the games are dangerous. Games are a. And i think miami will be a little scary told. Get going in the second half but am is Is a dangerous game. I think. I don't know i see. I think george mayhem and georgia the two games. I'd be most concerned about well. Am i'm not worried about it. Because i think way to audience. I love your attitude eddie. Hey i'm gonna preview right. Paul ro damn pi. Yeah yeah. I get it. But that's thinking your team is never gonna lose is dangerous jeff. Good afternoon welcome to the show. What's going on paul jeff. Talking just friendly bama fan. Oh yeah there's no reason even play the season. Any the way eddie looked at they. Just give them another title. But what does that number twenty seven. And i think the nashville i the ball. Hey i'm driving my car. But i hear people call in you about pickle ball yes. Guess what i'm doing man. I'm laced up the sneakers. And i'm headed out to play pickle ball at about an hour. I can't believe you. You're on the hottest craze in the country. I have never played before. Know why no. Never i mean you you you gotta take it up. I started playing in january. And i m big time addicted. I'm playing two to three times a week. And i tell you it unbelievable exercise. You don't kill yourself on big black tennis court but it it's not like the one guy said it fast. Pay quick reflection reaction. You get to the net and it's on and it's unbelievable and you go you. I've talked to you about naples. That's the mecca down there. They got a park down there with sixty five quarts down there and that's who they play all i'm telling you it's gonna be the next big news sport for television you want. They have the. Us open finals on cbs. Sports network and people liked it. I mean you've got to get into apollo. It's the next big thing. I'm telling you to join our team. You just go out. I'm telling you it's you can learn it literally. i mean it took. It took me three to four months to get right. Felt really comfortable. But after about three or four times you can play and and and not feel uncomfortable if not like tennis. The serve serve at the non factor. You basic always tennis sir. The servant the backhand didn't and other. I really love the game. Actually i mean in this day and i'm telling ya don't think you're going to go out there and play some woman and you're gonna take down because the guy versus the lady wrong the women can dominate in this game because once again it's not a power game it's it's react i love any game that women dominate your best joke in a year fall. But i'm telling you if you gotta get into that tapper on what the floor last week to go down to a pickle ball weekend down there. I had no idea why you went. Well i tell you what. I am rather reasons currently people from i mean. I'm i'm people left and right. And it's not who's dominating the pro. The pro level are ex college tennis players that are in their mid twenties. Maybe thirty and they weren't quite good enough to play on the tour and they're care enough this pickle ball seen on the on the pro level jeff tanks. We have to run to a break. I didn't realize pickle would be the the number one topic of conversation today. We are taking time out here when we come back. Big our is ahead greg. Sankey the commissioner of the sec will join us in thirty minutes and dave van horn the coach of the number one baseball team in the country one week before hoover is up next. Thank you for listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network. Beginning at three eastern this adrian out scheme check out my podcast. The world with insight and analysis on the top stories in the nba adrian forging ask our insider extraordinary reaction breaking news. This is the latest roads bomb and conversation with some of the biggest names in the league. Thanks again i'm good. Thanks for having me on. Yes thank you always appreciate you having me. Listen and subscribe to the wolves off wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Hour 2: Quick Reactions

"This is the max kellerman show on. Espn radio for max kellerman show on espn radio and espn plus triple eight. Say espn triple eight. Seven to nine three seven. Seven six. The max kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance guests. Join us on. The goodyear hotline. We'll get back to the phones in just a moment to quick topics. I want to touch on which we didn't get to in our number one. First of all the lakers lakers lose to the knicks. Last night julius randle had another double double thirty four points against former team. He has been a revelation for the next this year. And i give the lakers a pass last night coming off that performance against the nets because the knicks have been a thorn in a lot of team sides this year. The knicks are a team. Where and you can very rarely say this even at the highest level because there are teams that i think do have nights where they kind of make a business decision. That kind of take a night off. are you know load management nights in the nba. Where players just give nights off the knicks are. I think maybe the best example this year in the nba of team where you can say. This coach is milking every last ounce of talent and effort out of his team every single night they are never given load management time off. They are constantly. I think in competition for playing time and some guys have been buried on the bench that you would have thought a young developing team would wanna give playing time to just because this coach won't accept it. Tom fidel has had an incredible impact on a very mediocre to poor talent was roster in terms of their competitive ability every night. That's why give the lakers a pass last night for the fact that they lost that game. I'm looking more wide angle lens. At what the lakers have done without lebron and without ad and even without kuzma at times although coups will play last night to me the goal. If you were to tell me you're gonna lose those guys for a period of like a month for the blah. Lebron to three months for. Anthony davis just tread water. Just p five hundred. Just stay out of the play in game. They've done that so to me every time they win a game. They've earned the right to lose a game now. That's not the way they're going to think. But in terms of what the goal realistically should be for that roster looks like without those guys and taylor. Horton tucker was out right. I mean they've missed like as impactful. A group of guys in the past month is anybody in the nba. And yet they've kinda held steady and they have not allowed their season to not only not crater but even get down to where there have to worry about a play in game yet. Now you eventually need to get your horses back. You need the cavalry to arrive. You need to best players to be there. But if i were laker fan watching what i've watched over the last month my thought would be when those guys get back we're good. I don't care who we play in the first round. This supporting cast has showed me. They know how to get the job done to at least from a business standpoint. Hold us in there. So we don't lose what we built with lebron and with anthony davis and that is being in the top four or five seeds being right there for them in the mix to win another championship to win that conference if i were utah. If i were phoenix's grady years those two teams have had. I would feel almost this impending sense of doom. When anthony davis lebron or coming back because of what that's supporting cast has been able to do to get that team to just kinda hang in there. I've been really really impressed with what the lakers have done without two big guys and without the other guys at the top of their rotation at time circling in and out of the lineup as well so good job on the lakers good job on their supporting cast for being as good as they have been of late. The other topic that i know has been kicked around a lot since last night all day long and even last night on sports radio is julian edelman. So edleman retires and now. Here's what i hate. Why just when a guy like that retires. Does a conversation immediately have to go to hall of fame see. I hate that because julian edelman is not a hall of famer. He's not even close to a hall of famer. He is a really really good player. That had some great moments on the biggest stage. But you don't get to be in the hall of fame if you're one hundred fiftieth in career yards and two hundred and fiftieth in career touchdowns. There's way too many guys that have also had big moments of their own that put up far better numbers for far longer than julian edelman. That are above him by a long shot in terms of hall of fame consideration. He's not going to the hall of fame. But here's the problem with that debate. Just with that argument it now at the end of a player who had an inspirational career. Who is a great story and at the end of that career instead of just being able to celebrate that career puts me as a knucklehead talk show host in the position where now i have to sound like. I'm knocking him on the day that he retired right now. I have to feel like. I'm taking shots adam by saying. He's not going to the hall of fame when he was never going to the hall of fame so can't we just celebrate. Julian edelman for what he was. Here's what julian edelman is a legendary boston athlete. That has his place in boston lore forever for what he was able to accomplish with the patriots he will have his number retired or maybe not number tire because the nfl. It's hard to retire numbers but he will be a ring of honor guy for the patriots if you go team by eighteen in sports and you look up either in the rafters of their arena or on the ring of honor and their football stadium round whatever. Their version of monument park is the yankees. Have baseball wise. You will see names in every ballpark in every arena in america of guys who are memorialized in that particular park but orrin in that sports hall of fame. That's what julian element is the jets on the radio in new york city my partner with the jetsons marty lyons marty lyons was the defensive player of the year at alabama play for undefeated bear bryant team first round draft choice. The jets came to the jets and had a great jets. Career was never going to be a hall of famer. Though wasn't that good. He knows it. He's not gonna canton. But he's in the jets ring of honor. The jets have you know. Put him into a spot where he will always be remembered by jet fans every time there in the stadium but he's not going to canton so to me. That's where julian edelman belongs. That's the conversation his in boston. Sports history unquestioned so legend for some of the catches and games that he had and made in the playoffs and the super bowl. He will go down as a patriots hero but when you start talking about the hall of fame. He was not that julien animals. Never that good proble. You don't go to the hall of fame one pro bowl. You don't go to the hall of fame if you're one hundred fiftieth and two hundred and fiftieth in yards and touchdowns so it's just when a guy like julian hedlund calls it quits. Part of me hates it because it puts me in a position. Now where i have to act like. I'm taking shots at him by saying he's not a hall of famer when he was never going to be all of famer. Triple eight say. Espn triple eight. Seven nine three seven seven six. We'll get squeezed a call in here. Todd mcshay is about to join us. So we'll be talking the draft with todd after we talked to harrison's down in florida joins us next year on. espn radio. bob shoes and in for max kellerman. Hey harrison does a great little segue there as far as the jets so bringing in talk show. I have to ask your opinion Listening to you for years as a lifelong jeff. Van dyke wilson. It are you buying. Are you buying into this. You put a lot of good pieces around him better than the physician that donald was in when they brought him in a few years ago honestly. i'm obviously skittish based on our history. But what is your take. And i appreciate it. L. take your Your comment all all right harrison. Thanks for the call. I would say that. I'm approaching this. If i were a jet fan as two things can be true. sam darnold. I think can still do this at a very high level and be very good quarterback in the nfl but he had zero support here for three years. He was totally hung out to dry. I think zack wilson can do this and can do it at a very high level and i think that is why the jets believe in him but they are going to give him far more support than sam darnold was ever given and they've already done that in this past off season they brought in two wide receivers. They've signed a couple of guys on the offensive line. And i think you will see a commitment in the draft as well to getting him more help from an offensive line standpoint and a running back standpoint as well so i do think that he is going to come here. Being dealt a totally different hand of cards then. Sam darnold was dealt when he was jet quarterback bobble shoes in for max kellerman. And it's time to talk to our espn nfl draft analyst. A good year hotline. Todd mcshay joins us year after mel kiper earlier today. Dropped his mach four point. Oh so now. I'm waiting for the todd. Mcshay next mock drop as well all the time. I've known you for a long time. And i have to tell you. I don't know that there has ever been at least in the world mock drafts or even anything at espn. Such a seismic shift in the way that we have these conversations especially at a milk hyper mock since you somehow convinced. Mel to incorporate trades into his mock drafts bit. This has opened up the most fun. Can of worms that we've ever had to talk about on these shows. I congratulate you. it's been it's been a revolution and they'll does this now. It took me fifteen years to finally finally break. And and i did and it's just more fun because every year we see it and we've actually seen leading up to the draft this year. I mean teams are already making moves whether it's sam darnold going to carolina or You know miami moving around twice to get back up to six to get additional picks philly moving back to to twelve San francisco moving up to three. It happens every year. So so why are we pretending like we were stuck with the the original picks when we we always know that. There's going to be moving the first round up. And mel's now make it up some traits that are almost like in my opinion out of left field which i like even more like the less likely. The trade is going to happen the more we can debate. When is your next one drop. He put his four point out today once the next todd mcshay mock draft coming out. I've always had kuyper. Would you a mock draft every day if he could and i always have to talk about the wedge because he he wants to do the next one but we have a we have one where we go back and forth on picks coming up for three rounds but then over the last one will be the night before the draft. That's the one that everyone kinda grades this on and and You know this year is fascinating. Because we've got these quarterbacks coming off the board as fast if not faster than any other year going back to the beginning of the draft. So we know. Trevor lawrence is going to go under jacksonville. I'm fairly confident. Very confident actually. Zack wilson from. Byu is gonna come off the board of the jets to sam friends and move up from from from twelve to three to go get a you know a a tight end or a wide receiver. They're they're moving up for a quarterback. That's mac jones from alabama or trey lance from north dakota state or just builds from ohio state. We'll have to wait. And see all all the intel i get. Is that mack. jones the guy for For kyle shanahan. Just because of his intelligence and the way he can basically be a joystick. If will four shanahan out there. Knowing that he's bringing in football intelligence. But i also think shanahan after watching not ryan you know. Get out of field goal position and that super bowl against new england because of the lack of mobility and in the second half against Against the chiefs shanahan coaching dents. Patrick mahomes and watching his mobility and go to extend plays The trae lance would make a lot of sense because his mobility at the position. So it'll be interesting to see the in my opinion that draft really starts at number three with san francisco. 'cause we we really are highly confident that lawrence goes on and wilson goes to wendy. You think you would get to the point where you'd say the draft starts at four. Like how much more would you have to hear before you say. You know what mack jones is going three. And that's just gonna be the way that san francisco is going to go. Yeah i just don't trust any information this time of year. So i'm i'm always gonna say everybody is lying season. We always talk about and you know the people that you can trust in the league and you know the people that are are kind of talking around around in circles and throwing out multiple things. So i don't know anyone in that organization in san francisco that i that i fully trust to say we absolutely are taking jones at number three. But i do know this. If you're making that move to give it away. The pixel san francisco made or or gave away. You had a quarterback in mind and you have to be smart enough to know that lawrence and wilson are like ninety five percent chance that those guys are off the board so they like one of these. These three guys. Mac joe's lance just feels so they they know which guy that they want. We're having new pro days second pro days. Basically so san francisco can do their due. Diligence coming up in the next couple of weeks but But ultimately i think it based off of what i'm hearing. It's going to be mack jones. But what i would do with having jimmy garoppolo there and a veteran presence i would draft trae lance even though he only had seventeen starts at the f. c. s. level. I just think physically. He provides you more. And i think mentally from the intangibles that you hear from and the competitiveness city brings. I think that he has a higher ceiling than mac jones. I think back. Jones of the five i roam quarterbacks probably the lowest ceiling of these guys. I said the exact same thing last hour. But i threw justin fields into the argument. As well. that would you go lance. would you go. Would you go jones. That i think san francisco if they're looking at mack jones probably saying to themselves. We know what we've got. This is probably as much of a known entity among these guys as there is. We've got maybe a matt ryan or we've got you know that kind of pure old will pocket passer. But if i want on aaron rodgers. If i want a russell wilson if i want to mahomes if i want a guy that can go be a superstar at the position. That's not gonna be mack jones. That could be trae lance. It could be justin fields in that argument. Where do you factor just in fields now into the top ten because he seems to be the name that really keeps on bouncing all over the place. Yeah he does. And i talked to general managers head coaches scouts all across the league and he is either fourth or fifth on basically everyone. I've talked to him in terms of their quarterback board and he's so physically gifted i mean. Obviously he's got the size. He ran the four four four in the forty yard dash pro day. He's got a big arm. He's accurate throwing the ball down the field especially on the perimeter Book the two things that are. I call them areas in which he needs to improve one is how quickly can they get from his first to a second read and i say that you know and i got a catch a lot of heat it and i understand but when you studied the tape you see it and then you know. There's a team that did a basically have scouting report if you will on him and over two hundred of his throws which was primary receiver and only seven were secondary receiver now with that in mind. He's got he's got one one of the best offensive minds in all of college football as head coach and ryan day. So they're scheming things up properly and he's got a great supporting cast in terms of wide receiver. So there's not. There's a lot of times where he doesn't have. Why go to your second. Read when you're i read is gonna be open right right. So that's one area. He's going to have to improve upon or continue to in and the other thing he loves to see his receiver. Come open rather than anticipate throws and throw guys open which you well know you know and i know your background and and working with the jets and everything else that you've gotta in the nfl be able to throw receivers open and anticipate throws and that's an area that he's gonna have to improve upon so again physically. You can make an argument that the fields is as talented as any one of these quarterbacks. And i heard some of the nonsense about the lack of work ethic and toughness and all that stuff are you kidding me then walks. The clemson game were broken. Cracked his rib and played the rest of that game and out actually outplayed. Trevor lawrence shows up to a week later in the national championship game and battles it out. He didn't win but he still was battling he was out there so and just take a look at them. Running a forty yard dash with the shirt off. I mean you're telling me. He's a vegan to you went to begin to take care of his body. I mean this. This guy loves ball. He is absolutely a hard worker and he is as tough as nail. So i i can nitpick the other stuff. But i'm i am not on board with anything that's being said about him in terms of toughness and the work ethic now you'll you can stop it vegan for facts longer like me like if you're vegan already showing me your dedicated beyond whatever we think about being willing to do out of my diet or it's todd mcshay with us for another minute here quickly up kind of a wide angle lens question. Is there a team out there. Whether it's make a crazy trade up to get kyle pits or surprising. Maybe one of these quarterbacks before we're expecting them to go. Is there a team where you know. Read on them and you think could be a surprise. I mean there are a handful. I think new england is probably the most intriguing team though. Because they're sitting at fifteen right and they. They backed up the brinks truck to get the tight ends and wide receiver and some some other players. The most money ever spent in free agency. And it's so unlike. Bill belichick right and just when you think you have a beat on dollar check and kind of what he wants to do he. He goes in reverse course so he's never drafted quarterback in the first round it sorta brady obviously in the sixth round. They found gold there You know jacoby perset jarrett stidham. I mean the list goes on and on of all the second to sixth round quarterbacks drafted but now they're sitting at fifteen they know the cam newton's come back for another year they got a really good deal on that basically got close to backup quarterback money but is this the time where they they reversed the trend and actually go move up and go to quarterback and it could be justin field or could be trae lance. We'll we'll have to see but they're not going to sit at fifteen. And get one of the top five quarterbacks. As far as i see it right now. Denver sitting at nine through lock might not be the answer. The quarterback long term for the broncos. So maybe you have to make a move up to. I dunno six miami. I don't think miami's moved back after already. Moving back and then back into the toxic six right detroit at seven carolina know and you gotta get ahead of denver. So it's gonna be interesting to see how bill handles this This year's draft. I i think they're the most intriguing team because they need a quarterback for the future but are they willing to give up future first round picks to go up high enough to get them and is there a team more importantly willing to move out of that top eight rain in order for them to go get their ballot. Check fifteen take davis mills and overly act split the atom and you can almost see it coming. Hey thanks a million for doing. This was never enough time. But i'll be watching everything that you're doing between now and the draft. Obviously so thanks for the time today. You gotta brother have a good show. Thanks tie that is todd mcshay. Espn nfl draft analyst and by the way abc will also have coverage of the draft. The first two nights as well titled be a part of that. So that's the reese davis curb street desmond howard and todd group that a look at this a little bit more through the lens of college football while the coverage that greeny anchors with all of the guys on. Espn will look at it more from the lens of the nfl. But it's two different ways of looking at the draft. And i certainly encourage a real draft guy like me. I mean i'll be bouncing back and forth between both channels. Because i want to hear what all of these guys have to say about these different players and and how the draft shakes out so again. Todd mcshay join me on the goodyear hotline helping you discover the road ahead goodyear more driven you know. Aj hinch got a standing ovation when he got back to houston last night and it just reinforced something that i know about fans it is universally true and i'll tell you what that is when we come back also if you wanna give us a call and talk to us a triple eight say. Espn triple eight. Seven to nine. Three seven seven six but everything. Todd just had to say about what mel had to say about the nfl draft. That's on the table as well. So we'll hit the phones now give. aj hinch dot. We come back as well. Bobble shoes and informatics on the max kellerman show if you're my computer career ads and think i don't know anything about computers. It's okay you don't have to before. Starting many graduates could not turn a computer on and off. That's about it but there. It pros you can do it to now go to my computer career dot edu and take the free career evaluation. You could start your new life. In as little as four months grants covering up to fifty three percent of the coster. Available to those who qualify. It's not rocket science. It's my computer career. And it is the max kellerman show bob informatics coming right back on. Espn radio do own or rent. Your home share you. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com danta quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geico dot com the max kellerman. Show the podcast show. Espn radio espn plus bobble shoes and triple eight. Say espn triple eight. Seven nine three seven seven six. We have had a lot of different topics out there. The nfl draft obviously okay per with his mach four point. Oh is julian edelman. A hall of famer. I think saying no printer that he is not can't even believe it was a debate but puts you in a tough position where you're gonna take shots at a guy in when rather than celebrate his career so if you wanna give us a call about that you certainly can't as well and Did some nba. Let's get right back to the phones. James in michigan joins us next year on. Espn radio james. Hey how're you doing bob got. I gotta see thoughts about the draft. I think there could be like three to maybe even four major bus. Qb and i think matt jones can possibly wind up turning out to jam it all these picked by the coach. You want them to fit your system perfectly. I mean he has no reason to fail. I think a guy like zach could fail hard big time hard possible. I mean history tells us that you are at best fifty fifty less than fifty fifty. If you're even making one of these moves up to go get a quarterback that you're making the right decision so it's hard to say that because all of these teams firmly believe that the guy that they're going to get is the guy but history tells us just the law of averages that somebody's going to be wrong one hundred percent right so if you're the forty niners and you believe this is your guy you don't listen to anyone you don't listen to any of the doubters the haters you just go get your guy that is the job description and the jets have certainly made that decision already. Pretty well known with zack wilson. And they had sam darnold. They gave him no help for three years. They totally hung out to dry. I still think he can be and will be a really good player but despite the debate inside the building and i was told there was plenty of debate. I think joe. Douglas the jets general manager absolutely had voices inside that building telling him. I think we should keep sam. Darnold trade the second. Pick mortgage it for a boatload. Try to find another team or two. That's in love with zack. Wilson let them come up and let surround. Sam darnold with even more help than we can. Surround zack wilson. With i definitely think that there was that segment in their building but joe. Douglas has spent the last whatever fifteen years in the nfl. Working up to the point where he gets to be the guy that sits in the chair and makes the decision and once you arrive in that chair. I mean you're not doing yourself just as if you don't go with what you think you listen to all the opinions you filter out all the information but the same thing that lynch shanahan or doing in san francisco now. What would worry me. A little bit is those are the same two guys that paid all that money to jimmy garoppolo so they have already through their own. Actions admitted that they were wrong. About jimmy g. and blewett because now they're moving up to three to his replacement but having said all of that your job. The job description is to eliminate all the clutter and pick your guy and stick with your guy and if back jones was your guy you draft him and you don't look back stock market ohio. He joins us next here on. Espn radio hey mark. Yeah i qualify and say. I'm a diehard michigan fan. So i compliment. Justin feel is painful for me. But i do not understand the nitpicking and the hatred towards justin fields. Ever again because the is don't lie. When i watch him key playing against better competition than zack loss and then trail and it. Higher completion percentage higher yards per attempt per completion. He was more mobile than both of them. The kid is a flat out winter. Great character a a work horse. And when you when you see all of them going well you know he doesn't. He doesn't check down very watching the second receiver. Why would he. He's got he's got chris alive and garrett willis. They're always open if he's supposed to check down at the challenge like i think so. Many people over think this at the beginning of the year justin feels. I thought was the number two quarterback and we didn't even have to have this discussion. Yeah well you said it. And i think nitpicking is the right way to put it. I don't think there's hate right. Say there's just feels hate. I think would be inaccurate. Because he's gonna get picked in the top ten so he loves them not only do teams not hate him. Somebody loves them. They just believe in the other guys more but you could be a hundred percent right. He could end up being the best of all of these guys. You don't know until they go play. If you have missed any of the max kellerman show today and we spent some time talking about mel kiper 's mock draft certainly with a lot of callers an hour number one and top mcshea and our number two. You can always find both hours of the show posted daily as a podcast available. Wherever you listen to your podcasts publishers sitting in for max will come right back squeezes many calls in between now and top of the hour. We'll go look at chennai takeover triple eight say. Espn triple eight. Seven to nine. Three seven seven. Six two max. Kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance. And i'll give you that. Aj hinch point when we come back as well stick around for that bobble shoes them. Informatics max kellerman show on espn radio. The max kellerman. Show the podcast down the stretch. Bobble shoes max kellerman show on espn radio and espn plus triple eight. Say espn triple eight. Seven to nine three seven seven six. That's the telephone number if you're on. Hold stare at the tron squeeze in a couple of more calls but between now and the top of the hour but just a quick thing that jumped out at me when i saw. Aj hinch getting a standing ovation last night. When he went back to houston and it just reinforces something that forever. I think fans like to believe they are not necessarily like guilty of but it is a consistent theme among all fans if you win especially a championship but if you win or just are a great player when you wear my laundry. I will forgive anything just about right. Aj hinch is at the center of one of i think the most embarrassing cheating scandals that you are ever going to have not just in baseball but in sports during our lifetime right. I mean that's sign stealing scandal. That was exposed. Should have dodger fans up in arms. Certainly yankee fans here in new york up in arms they want and aj hinch goes. Back gets a standing ovation. I remember hosting shows in new york. And this is a great example that i've gone back to time and again even though it's a long time ago when latrell sprewell was playing out west and choked. Pj carlesimo and the knicks were going to get latrell sprewell because obviously you choked your coach a pretty good chance. You are then going to be done with that franchise so now latrell sprewell's gonna move and he's coming to new york and i was doing shows like this taking call after call after call if the knicks get this guy. I will never watch them again. If the knicks stoop to this level and they get this guy and do we have no pride. Are we going to go. Right to the gutter blah blah blah because sprewell had done this with pj carlesimo and got within a week. He was the most popular nick by far. His jersey was everywhere at the garden. It wasn't close the loudest pre-game introduction cheer dame after game after game was latrell sprewell because electric player and once. They got him here and saw how good he was. He was wearing a new jersey. That was it. Man about barry bonds with the giants. Barry bonds the last couple of years of his career. They threw needles adamant times hypodermic needles came sailing out of the stance in opposing stadiums. In san francisco standing ovation. Every at bat. Why because he's their guy. It doesn't matter what you do. If you win fans of the team you win four. They will forgive. You will always be there guy. They will always cheerful you. They will always embrace you. They will always wrap their arms around you. You may face hell everywhere else. You go but you can always go home and aj hinch certainly is the latest example of finding exactly that out and it is and it's there's no fan base that can sit there and say all the other fan bases. We're too good for that. We would do that. You might stoop to that level or you may forgive and forget or you may accept this but not us no no. It is consistent all sports. All fan bases all levels. You win for us. We will forgive just about anything baba shoes and informatics. The max kellerman show trying squeeze in a few more calls at triple eight say. Espn triple eight. Seven to nine three seven seven. Six lee is calling from kentucky. He joins us next here on. Espn radio and espn plus la. Going on man how are you. I'm wonderful blessed. i'm donald fan cleveland browns. Do you think the defense in the. I think they need more help on defense. And if you remember the play in the kansas city chiefs the chiefs there are one. Play away when winning that game got hit in the was no call what spur you have a nice day. All right thanks. I think. Cleveland has a lot of different ways that they can go in part like jadeveon. Clowney is supposedly on the verge of signing with cleveland on. I had not heard if that had happened yet. But that was you know kind of like right on in the on deck circle for the browns. So i've seen some of the pass. Rushers that have been you know mocked say in the twenties to potentially end up with the browns. Does that change for them. If they signed cloudy you know are are they still going to be looking at a. You know i don't know adjacent alway or a you know. Champion davis from kentucky actually was one of the guys that i think. Mel actually mocked to cleveland in spite of the fact that they may sign. Jv and cloudy. I think the other thing that throws a little bit of a curve ball in there when you said they're automatically going to defense if they signed cloudy is what do they do if they can work out a trade for beckham because you keep on hearing that odell beckham might be a guy that they're going to move on from if they move on from beckham would they look for his replacement and they don't want to necessarily remove a big weapon for baker mayfield. So i think cleveland. It's going to be three things. The beckham trade potential the clowney signing potential. And then playing the board. And when you're drafting in the mid to late twenties. I think they're drafting twenty six. If i remember right a lot can happen in front of you that you're also not anticipating you can have a guy on your board that's twelfth. Thirteenth falls all the way to twenty six. You can't believe he's there and you're just compelled to take him because you know even if he's not in a position of need because you just can't believe that that talent is still there so i the browns all those teams that twenty is going to be playing things by year. There's any question that does it for me and actually back tomorrow. Different slot though filling in for greenie at ten a. m. eastern tomorrow. So i'll be right back on the radio. We get back into. Mils mach four point only ticket telephone calls then Thanks a million roger bubba for helping me out over the last couple of hours as well. Max is due back tomorrow on. The max kellerman shows join that on. Espn radio and espn plus talk to you tomorrow. At ten max. Kellerman chipped the podcast. This is ingraham origin housekeeping. 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"Speak for yourself. Affront career presented by Jason Marcellus Wiley happy Wednesday happy off days. Fantastic show plan for you today. We're GONNA pull up at Isaiah. Thomas is talk some Lebron James and with Lebron James the same superstar in Isaiah Magic Michael and Larry Bird's era But we're GONNA start today's show talking about Michael Jordan and we'll be joined with Jim Jackson Grip for his insight on Michael Jordan and the ramifications of the last dance documentary. Continue to reverberate around Michael Jordan including now former Chicago. Bull Craig. Hodges coming out and trying to put Michael Jordan on full blast for his comments calling Scotty Pippin selfish and Craig. Hodges upset claiming the Jordan made these comments about joining the Chicago Bulls and they're being a cocaine circus when in reality Jordan just responded to a question about an article that said that the Bulls before Jordan got their worry cocaine circus. Jordan answered the documentary. -Tarian question quick Blaming Michael Jordan for that Charles. Barkley has talked in the past twenty four forty eight hours about the rift between he and Michael Jordan. How they went from being best friends and brothers to not speak. Hindi each other ever since. Charles Barkley was critical of Michael Jordan. As the general manager of the Charlotte Bob Cats and last. But not least. We've seen Michael Jordan during this documentary. Talk about his hate for is Thomas. We've seen in the documentary. Michael Jordan talked about living in this bubble and it leads to the question. Would you really WanNa be like Mike? There was obviously famous. Be like Mike Commercial and watching this documentary watching the fallout from this documentary and getting unique insight into what it was like to be like. Mike. I WANNA ask ourselves and GM's accident Marcelo's rolling here. Would you WanNa be like Mike? Would you WANNA be Michael Jordan? I never wanted to be like Mike. Even in the heyday even when he was popping into cultural cultural sense and him being icon. His greatest powers is great. It's I never wanted to be like Mike for for many reasons. Including probably the core reason of I'm not into doing the identities and trading places with someone of this world beam ourselves while he's been been pretty good to me just to say that and when you start thinking about this mid to experiment and exercise of swapping with someone else. I hope y'all know y'all have to take the good with the bad and the flip side of the coin of being like Mike. Not so attractive. The gambling obviously is an issue. He went through a divorce. More importantly we're we're talking about right. Now is the fact that he may have his boys but he certainly has a long list of X. Boys that I'm not in support of it. In terms of what this documentary documentaries highlighting is highlighting that this is a guy who has this insatiable desire to compete at all costs at all cost all human sacrifice in all human beings in existence. There are too many people who are sitting there suffering because Michael Jordan was in the quest to do one thing. And that's just not the way I WANNA get down. I warrant to win win proposition in terms of how I connect with other people and it just doesn't seem like Michael Jordan was into that Kudos to his success and his record. I'm sure he doesn't WANNA swap. Places will be either but if you WANNA ask if I want to be. Like never did never will interesting. You say that Marcella Essay. This when you were growing up did you. Kinda idolize from football perspective John Elway and Eric Dickerson and because we were younger you didn't really have a clue of about who they were personality wise. You just saw what you saw on that Sunday or interview so that kind of gave you something to admire right. Yep their game. Is the game. Lead it right. So you're answering the question. Now be like Mike or wanted to be like my from a basketball player at. I'm forty nine years old. I can answer that question a lot differently now than I could. When I was fifteen sixteen years old I grew up in a Michael Jordan air. Come fly with me all the stuff that Michael Jordan was all about I Because there was only certain things I knew about Mike at the time when I grew up it was first Dr J. because he had asthma when I was in the Sixth Grade Fifth Grade. I wanted to be like Dr J. Did I love magic? Mike was something different the time and again. It's not like growing up in this era with Lebron James and Kevin Durant Steph Curry. You know everything pretty much about them because social media back then. You didn't know you didn't know some of the details. Michael Jordan's life like you would I to know now about some of our star. I love about the documentary which I've always known because that opportunity and beat around the Bulls in those mid nineties when they were making their championship. Was that Mike wasn't perfect. My hat is flaw. My had his drudges. My had is pettiness. Like we all do. It's just now being exposed to this point to a lot of people especially young people who really don't know the lineage of Michael Jordan highlights. But they don't know the detail they don't know back when you know the whole. China thing came up about Nike in regards to sweat shops and Nike making shoes and Mike and say anything about it at the time. We've talked about praying. Hodges you did regards to go into the White House and ninety one when Craig. Woody wanted to talk to George Bush about some issues in the black community as Michael. About Mike now now. I'm good on that so I would take aspects of love him as a basketball player to have his skill set. You better believe it what I love to have the Jordan brand. You better believe what I have is bank account you damn skippy. I would the aspects of it that I can put to the side because my background. I grew up differently. I see things differently and that older age I think different so our like at some aspects but like you said you gotta be my shoes for year that understand what it could be an Auto Jimmy. You got it all. You do want to say this because I covered part of gyms college career and so there are people that are too young they will think. I'm crazy when I say this but there was a time when Jim was at Ohio. State where people's imagination went to all my God. Jim Jackson might be another version of Michael Jordan. And I say this at all season. Jim had the size. Jim has looks. He has the whole thing the as an athlete and as a player he had a chance to be a great great. Nba Player in the mode of Michael Jordan. And so. I'm just wondering Jim as you look at all the price that comes along with being Michael Jordan and being that great of a basketball player when you look at it now we're forty nine year old is would you have liked to been that great of a basketball player and deal with all the complications that go along with that that. I think are being exposed here from this. Last documentary without a doubt without a our deal with because with successive greatness comes the other side of what my son was seven eighth. Grade Year. Seventy seventh or eighth grade. I told him being. My Son has a catch twenty two. You can't have the good without the bat. You can't separate the two so the sooner you figure out to deal with the adversity. The expectations the backstabbing. The better off you being like our take it in a heartbeat because be at the top of your profession is what we all strive for. And there's you know some things that come along with that and we're not person. I'm not perfect. I'm divorced I messed up. I've done some things in the past but learned along the way through my journey and I think Mike has also but to go back to your original point undoubtedly I love to have his terrip. Being probably be greatest. Ever step on the court in Grayson's with his town myself. Let me ask you a similar question in terms of let's keep it. A football could have been one of the greatest football players of all time reads Lawrence Taylor level at Tom. Brady level. Eight manny and kind of live in that fishbowl world that the greater the great live in. Would you have chosen that? Do you think you would have been able to deal with the complications that go along with that. Oh absolutely I would have chosen every time you went out there and practice and mental preparation let alone on the actual playing surface landfill. That was your choice every time to be that great and when you have your shortcomings you also understand where you are in the stratosphere you do with that reality but it's funny that we're GONNA ask a question like do. I want all of his success without his failures. And we know that. That's the incomplete equation. You GotTa take it all certainly. I would've been able to handle what comes with a higher altitude of success I desired. It landed where I lead it. I had the just to that reality certainly far from Ground Zero but certainly far from the Mount Rushmore or the Goat Status Michael Jordan. But I look. I'm a guy in college. If you look kid I could show you pictures. Every single poster. My Dorm Room was damn near Michael. Jordan quarterly was the consumerism. He was flooding the streets and everybody thought it was cool to be like Mike and I thought it was cool to see my but really I was the beneficiary of Michael Jordan's greatest one hundred pounds ago. I used to get modeling. Gigs no lie in New York City. I got years ago my little muscles six five hundred pounds ago. The ball hair tall dark all mad. Every everything that Michael Jordan couldn't get was looking at me like I'd take this carbon copy of the four second there so look who did. WanNa be like Mike in some respects. But until tally now the question. I have watching last chance dot looking at Michael Jordan on TV talking about I hate Isaiah Thomas. You find out the anger. He played with throughout his career. I starting to question light is Michael Jordan. Happy is is is he because I think we all dream about being as wealthy being a successful being as revered as Michael Jordan but I literally leaving this last last dance documentary wondering if Michael Jordan is happy. Jim You go first marseils. Yeah the final word I mean. And that's and that's a relative term to being happy. Okay especially with Michael Jordan. Because of everything that he's accomplished and we always talk about this on on on this. Show your childhood. Set you up for things that happen to you. When you're an adult. He had a lot of competition with his brother. His whole thing was beaten is problem. Some things had to deal with when he was younger. How much does that play into his competitive nature to always be the best? It would look at Michael Jordan and this is a big missing interpretation of people all the time to say you got all this money. Why wouldn't you be hat is still something out there that maybe you didn't accomplish something that nagged at you as an athlete especially Michael Jordan being the great okay? Was it the article at the time when people were nitpicking. Things is as Thomas. Was it Khadr comparison? I don't know what it is but it's always something there and it does seem like Michael whether it's you know. He hasn't done what he needed to do. In Charlotte Right now. You can see some of come out in this hall of fame speech. He has everything in the world. So why complain but it goes back to the personality. Who and what made him very special is that his relentless drive to be the best what he could be and right now baby whole system rear in particular ownership perspective. He hasn't reached out ENECO yet. And maybe that's what we see a lot of times with kind of the unhappiness on easiness in these interviews that are starting to come out a little bit more. You know in the last thing. Yeah I mean it's impossible to assess because we all wear our happiness different But then said I love with. Jim is talking about in terms of WH- when you're always on this quest to conquer to compete. When is enough enough? There talks about this a lot when you just always in this attaining mode. I need the next get a big house. I need a bigger house. I'll give one carney to cars. If you always are talking about the next then you're never going to be completely satisfied or more importantly field so I look at Michael Jordan to those liquor store. Is that we all care. This is where a lot of joy a lot of pain and a lot of relief. And I think he's really has this unique concoction of all those emotions but he used to be protected. Airspace and literally. You know pointed to protect their restricted airspace. You cannot touch the gold because he lived in so many of our imaginations pre social media just folklore this and we ask the question you ask Jason. Would THIS DOCUMENT MINNA? Remakes looking Michael Jordan differently absolutely better or worse worse one you could see the flaws in Jordan deb before they weren't so tangent they were right there and to you also start to see who he was surrounded by not only in in his team atmosphere but in competition to a player is writing me. Dam and me commenting on twitter. Who would he do? He played against Ed comparing to era. So I think there are now people take shots at Jordan. Debra Ford is documentary. Never had to do that. Stay WHEREVER YOU ARE COMING UP. Bucky Brooks just around the corner. Go out to his crib about Donovan. Mcnabb whose backtracking I think what his comments about Cam Newton back got another black quarterback perhaps being mistreated icepick yourself from the presented by Hyundai. More after this. I'm ED speaker yourself from the CRIB JASON. With Lot Marcellus Wiley. Speak for yourself presented to you by Sunday. Pilots roll out to Bucky Brooks his career. Let's continue a conversation we started. I believe yesterday about Donovan. Mcnabb mcnaughtan made some controversy. Put out a tweet that was interpreted by many of us as playing the race car as it relates to eighty dollars and signing with the Dallas. Cowboys mcnabb tweet. Also any size a one year deal for seven million dollars if he reaches possible incentives James Winston Signs. A ONE YEAR DEAL FOR ONE MILLION. That can't seem to get his contract. He deserved and Cam. Newton is still on the street. Anyone have any questions Am I the only one Donovan? Mcnabb people interpreted this as playing race card. I was one of those people he has since. Put Out tweet today. Clarify last night as I continue to look at read responses from people it truly makes you wonder how people really feel about individuals the fact that. I stated the facts of what we were presented and never mentioned anything about race and people take it. There is hilarious to me. Then is next tweet. I ask say simple question. And people went left with their commentary. It also makes it also makes you think of the issues that people were touching on. I think if you listen to Marcellus Wiley and Bucky Brooks questions to ask yourself right. Nab A of the show obviously You believe mcnabb here that he was not playing the race card. I do believe mcnabb certainly Do anyone who doesn't believe mcnabb still must have reasonable doubt therefore he is innocent of all race card charges You gotta look at this situation like literally matter of fact lot. I think being real if you thought this was about race. Then you tell it on yourself a classic case of projection. If you look at the tweet the first thing about the tweet was about. A white quarterback actually wasn't getting his proper value. So if you continue to look at it through that lens of a quarterback money and value conversation you start to realize he's right and he does not even GonNa get seven million. Don't get three million and he's not gonNA get any instead of because he's a backup and then you start looking at. That couldn't get his money cam. Jobless Jamie's got a low ball offer. He's having a quarterback value money conversation. And I believe that when you start to look deeper into it no one. The mcnabb made one hundred million dollars in his own career. So how dare he claimed victim of being a black quarterback? I really think he asked to open ended questions kind of for people that take were. They wanted to so he can learn from the evidence of. There's more so than suggesting what other people should think. People Kinda got tricked and they changed their own tail but mcnabb innocent of these charges. Nice you know. This is a racial response meeting lose to raise. It didn't say and played the race card directly indirectly insinuated that maybe just maybe there is some racial implications to the reason. Why James was a Dak Prescott? Hasn't got paid yet. And Cam. Newton is still on those streets as this comes from Donovan. Mcnabb understanding the stereotypes that are associated with Khalid an African American quarterback in the National Football League. But let's be honest when Aubrey back to the sixties and seventies blacks plan quarterback and to deal with the stereotypes of a black smarter. Nonni twenty nine. Clean quarterback are black and twenty. It's about your athleticism. Whatever and I'm glad it should bring up late. Wait because in twenty. Yes been progress. There are nice starting quarterbacks that are minority there a backup quarterback. Stan minority six of those being African American. How when you look at what is wanted in the back of quarterback role smarts Guys that can take it from the board to the film. A limited reps is still plays to the stereotypes that blacks can only do it talented with their talent with their minds and those other things. I don't know anybody question about Russell Wilson to Shawn Watson Patrick Mahomes. Lamar Jackson Lamar's the MVP best quarterback in football checks. Russell Wilson's the highest pay Football out think that little is twenty twenty and we gotta deal with what's going on today and it look if there's some personality things about us that don't make a suitable to be a backup quarterback. Maybe we gotta change personality and be a little less big personalities. This has been an issue for me for for by entire life so much personality likes to crack jokes. There's a rollout needed to play as a newspaper columnist and broadcaster Bob. I've had to make some adjustments invest. What needs to go home but again our team sitting out there discriminated against the guys. I just don't see mcnabb's being disingenuous by trying to suggest he wasn't playing the race card here. He's still if he wasn't playing the race card. Here what Megan ratio explain? What's your point was and maybe Donovan has no point and I say this is someone during the mavs career in Philadelphia Shoes Donald Fan. When he went to Washington and went to war with the Shanahan's nobody defended him more passionately stronger than I have. And things just keep coming out with them. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe Donovan it's Donald Monette. Don't know the overtime rules. Donovan mcnabb. Cain these quarterback situations and evaluate them properly without going into twitter. Focus is the race car and now he's got a backpack dion sanders because the he used to be the he's strong man. Stand up and say what your chest out. Data Invest. What you believe. Donald has never been afraid of this when he was playing at as prime he called out the NFL at that time said during his early in his Greece. It is a different standard for black quarterbacks. He said this during his prime in Philadelphia and understood his comments then at that time but in two thousand twenty when the black quarterback is dominating this way and teams just are making those types of when they're going to get a Jordan love and put pressure on a Aaron Rodgers when they go out and get a JALEN HURTS DONALD J. Just stop it man. Don't hide behind Bucky and Marcellus Man. Say which chest out you play the position. Your Bright Guy. Say what you really think. Explain if you WANNA play in the race card at least tell us what it is. You trying to say don't leave it on. Marcellus his hand to try to interpreted well. Let me say Jason. It's not on mcnabb to untangle all of our assumptions in all all the places we want to take. This mcnabb has never been scared to say what he thinks so for him to go there now as a little late in his life in his career all of a sudden he now is scared to go out there and tell you his honest truth and saying what his chest if we read the tweet literally and even Bucky made this mistake. Monkey say indirectly insinuated. I what is me first. Line is about any Dalton. Last time I check he ain't black and he brought him up as his first example but no one else. We only want to read black parts and we went into the second line and finished it. And that's unfair to mcnabb the only thing I can hear my courtroom. That he's guilty of and it's a misdemeanor is throwing a rock in high news hands. He just threw a rock and everybody jumped to their own conclusions. And I've been guilty of this before I walking around with my boys. We walk down the street begging my days when I was playing and young single and I'm like look at her and immediately it could go this way or that way you can say yes. She is fired or you'd like she ain't that you. All I said was look at her now. Were you took? It is weird you took it bucky. I said look at her. Now you get mad at me for saying look at her. That's all you buck. Which you thinking not me and Marcel. I'm surprised I'm sure sometime at Columbia. You took some critical classes. And you're able to do these word problems where you can deduce where we were gonNA maybe desolate North Carolina. I don't know but what I saw was nabbed teat. This up. He talked about Andy. But then after that. Enlisted three black quarterbacks. Any just made you think about look at their place and look at the challenges. I think that mcnabb's frustration with all of this comes from but last year. We had the debate when Cam. Newton went out Allen we request to try and give away Cam Newton's job DAK Prescott has been bowling for the last two years. Any daughter son as a backup and the governor is any daughters wanted to replace. Dak Prescott when it goes all the way back to now talking about the double standard. That is what he's talking about. He's not saying directly that anyone saying. Hey we just these quarterbacks like this and the other quarterbacks in another way he is saying just listened to the temperature of the room and you get all your answers just like the response is that he got back or fire because he put it out there. People told him cells. Let me ask you this. If you say Dak. Prescott has been balling out last two years. What would you describe? Aaron Rodgers as doing and the cloudy of air candidate can go out and draft George Law if they can go out and draft Jordan love Aaron Rodgers Dallas on that Andy Dalton to put some pressure on Dak Prescott we have to define what balling out in entails. Don't put that on that to see because see used the thing that I like about that risk. When it comes to this conversation a year ago it was about. I need to see him. Put Him numbers. They are winning in spite of him. Who So then he says. Okay well I will put up numbers that are career number for me when it comes to yards touchdowns and all those things but now it's like over. They went when we talk about the goal post. Moving that's what we're talking about for. Dak Prescott is what do you want me to do to get this money? And so now. Everyone is having a renaissance in a love affair with Andy Dot. Eighty dollars so great. He's don't put pressure on. Didn't want and look and see any donald replaced by arrive. Philly last year that they take them out. Cincinnati Joe Borough. But I'm supposed to believe only using depth to replace Dak Prescott who hasn't missed the game. I'm just saying this ain't Dak Prescott. Tony Romo from getting his job back. I understand by Abbas alluding to when he brooch but we gotta go but and I know you played in North Carolina Basketball School. So let me work one. Goalpost one goal post and the goal closest said on balling out and winning. They go hand in hand. The the you played a game to win erm members told you that so of you all out and go eight ball out. He walked out and go twelve and four or just meteo her go twelve four. That's the purpose of the gay. But again you you went to North Carolina. That's Dean Smith and Roy Williams School Michael Jordan. School Nobody Taylor. GonNa give them on. We gotTA keep moving margins into Rachel corner classes. Why people say he should be the highest paid defensive in football twenty five million a year. They're crazy speak for yourself. From the CRIB. The crib presented by Hyundai Jason. Whitlock Marcellus Wiley. On a wonderful wins the day roll rollouts. Lavar area since crib and we're GONNA talk about Myles Garrett. Last time we saw him on a football field he was slamming his helmet into Mason. Rudolph things a lot better for miles gary right now irreparable reporting bed. Jared could be the first twenty five million dollar a year. Pass rusher Garett of course last year played ten games had ten sacks year before had thirteen and a half sack played in one pro bowl but is now being talked about as a twenty five million dollar eight year. Pass rusher ourselves judy. The expert here is miles geared or twenty five million a year absolutely. He's worth it We're talking about not only his production his potential. And then you also have the map on the calendar in terms of win this deal may be struck it could be an extension and it may not be an extension but think about it. They already picked up his fifth year option. So we have two more years potentially even franchise situations but two plus years you will see Maoz gear. Be a guy who eclipse is twenty five million dollars annually and let's talk about his production but I think a lot of times it gets lost in terms of what. A defense alignment is being on the field in terms of grade when our delight room we used to always have this thing called sat. Great coach basically wanted to know you started a game. What's the percentage change? You're going to sack the quarterback you know where myles Garrett is right now. Eighty seven percent of the time. That's to give you some reference. Bruce Smith career seventy-five percent now. Obviously these numbers are skewed when you play longer typically your sack rate decreases but Utah like stray hand. Sixty nine percent. Utah guys now. Like Channel Jones Eighty three percent. And you got to seven percent almost every game that he starts. He's bringing at quarterback down and they know that yes. These injuries yes. He had a suspension but boy does he have off the chart ability and production when you look at when he goes out there. What comes in terms of production. He's to get that twenty five million. I think he deserves. Yeah I'm saying yes as well. I think my reasoning is different. It's it's based upon the consistency of what I've been saying when I discussed matters around Dak Prescott or any other player that that is seeking to get a high contract. Which is you are. You are worth what your employer is willing to value you at. You put a number out there. Mouths guarantee people are putting a number out there and that number is agreed upon by his employer then the distinct relationship between the employer and the employee is saying that once. We sign on his dotted line. Are Names dry? The ink is dry? The TS are crossed. I's dotted. You're saying the agreement and the relationship between you. The employee you employer says that this is my bad you to this company so to me. The Cleveland browns within their their room of negotiation and their brain. Trust their roundtable of decision. Makers say that they see value Emmaus Geir where they're going to make him the highest-paid pass rusher position won't Lavar Z. Worth Twenty five million dollars. I don't care about the Brown one hundred percent but you have to care because that's where the twenty five million is coming from so twenty five to me. He's he's worked twenty. Five May of twenty five million is coming from the bank account of the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns Fan it. Then we don't have the Cleveland browns. Is He going to produce at twenty five million dollar pay? Is He the NFL problem? The problem with what you're saying is is that you're basing the parameters of him getting twenty five million dollars off of what you think he's GonNa Produce on the fail. It is the value of what the Cleveland browns believe or perceive them to be as to why he's going to get that twenty million people have been highest pay have not been productive guys and still get paid. Odell Beckham has gotten paid. He hasn't been the highest productive type of guy but he wasn't. He was valued enough to the pay that he was able to get at one point the Seattle seahawks valued Matt Flynn and whatever ridiculous rate that it was and people like me went on TV and say hey man that's ridiculous. He ain't work that he didn't do it enough in his previous job to justify that amount of money that's the discussion we're having about Miles Garrett. I think Marcel has made a pretty good argument about his sack rate. And Look I'm a critic Myles Garrett I think he's a flake goofball I don't trust characterizing the locker room but in terms of when you put that film on a game. Does he get to the quarterback and I understand how important it is to get to the quarterback and this guy does it consistently win. He's available? Would I pay him this money? No because I questioned his character and will he be able to stay on the field in terms of doing dumb things that get him into trouble. He's like a different version of volunteers. Perfect volunteers verdict does a lot of stuff out of malice and stupidity gets him into trouble. Miles Gary does things stupidity to get him into trouble on the field and could have more suspensions but as a pure pass rusher is he arguably the best one going in the NFL right now had he not been suspended last year with that have been crystal clear when him probably having sixteen sacks for the season probably but to me the character issues. Kind of say. I would proceed with caution and before I start talking about giving us do some kind of major payday. I need to see one full year of this. Do go through the NFL. Without any controversy without anything to distract from the without anything that hurts the team. Yeah I mean look what you're talking about. I'm glad we can. Now hone our focus into when you get on the field. What the hell are you doing and only Shaq Barrett I've seen and Chandler Jones of recent memory is doing what Myles Garrett is doing and part of that Isabella ability but in terms of like Shaq Barrett has one hundred eighty percent. That means now get on the field and get one SEC. He going to be coming close to get his second sack most games. And that's a high click rate when you talk about these guys and just don't win a little love for you guys myles. Garrett has started thirty five games and already has thirty eight point five six thirty point five six thirty five game. You know what I mean. He sucks I had in my first thirty five starts thirty four this. I should have got paid a long time ago. Brother just don't know how you boys did it. It was a real guy. Twenty five million a year as well. I we got to keep it rolling. Isaiah Thomas. Nba Hall favor. A Co Star in the last dance documentary Thomas from his crib. Speaking yourself boy after this. I want them to speak yourself from the Crib Jason with Marcellus Wiley happy Wednesday. Let's roll out to Isaiah. Thomas Grip be former piston great. Nba Hall of Famer two time NBA champion and Co Star of the last Das- documentary unintimidated. I'd say you have made a comment though we brought you on today because you made a comment that really irks me. Which is unusual for you but you said that the athletes up today aren't getting the credit that they could and Lebron and Kevin durant these guys would have dominated your ear of the NBA disagree with that. But why do you believe this about Lebron James and why would he been so dominant in your era And both of you being athletes You we all come to the table and normally if all things being even bigger faster stronger athletes win now. The only way a smaller person has any chance of beating a bigger stronger faster. Athlete is if the bigger faster stronger. Athlete makes a mistake. Which Ghia that mall or player a chance to win when I look at Bron. James Ian Kevin Durant if you put both of them in our area and if you were to put Kevin Durant on on our team with the Pistons or if you put Lebron James on all team with the Pistons You know both of those guys would be probably the the best players in the best scores on our team. And when I look at those two guys as being freak you know in in the Modern Day era and if you put him back on air they would have been free because of their athleticism. I've never seen two players like durant and Lebron James Ever in all NBA with the size in the skill sets that they both possess. I wholeheartedly agree with you. Is a look the only counter to that conversation really is world if the guys of yesterday had all the technology the mindset ed the access etc the medical resources. Things will be different for those guys as well true when we're talking about the physics bigger faster stronger and if you look at the volume two collection of athletes now. I dare someone to look at the talent level of the sixth man back into the eighties versus the sixth man. Right now in terms of what you're seeing is just a different animal and it's okay. I think. Only the Eagle holds on that thinks that this world is not evolving in sports or not evolving as well. These guys are walking in the gym jumping out the GM but back in the day we heard Jordan rules and others say if he just doesn't get the air we have a chance. Well good luck having a strategy. Now because everybody's in the damp air so you can just see looking at yesterday. No slight to greatness because greatness cuss through era but the average job yesterday wouldn't even be known today because they're just too many talented guys but you know when I my position would be my position. Isaiah would be if Kevin Durant play back in your era. He would play the game differently. He might have a post game. He might be the next iteration of cream. I build a bar. If Lebron was played in your air he might have played the game. The Way Karl Malone played it rather than the way the game is played today. That is absolutely true. And that's where coaching and schemed and system comes in And and and I you know it's like Michael Jordan is is is probably the greatest you know. Wayne score that that's ever play the game and the reason why I say Wayne Score because when we we don't we don't count you don't count Chamberlain and we don't Count Corinne in in the conversation. So now I put in the category. He's the greatest wings score ever He and Lebron tank. Now that being said if Michael Jordan played in today's era he would be a different player. He would probably have a coach saying to him. He couldn't take the mid range shot Michael Jordan with either beat Dunkin or shooting point shot. He'd be great at both of them but the thing that he's known for in terms of being you know probably the greatest mid range player we would see that in today's game if he was in this. L. Okay but also I think the way. Y'All competed in that. Era is completely different than the way guys compete. In this era the competition was more fierce in your ear. Do you disagree with that I think because of the physicality of the game That was allowed Doing era It definitely Y- definitely makes you A little bit more competitive And make things tougher for you because of the physicality So you know re resistance is always good you know and in both of you. Are you know know former football players? So you know you if you put Jerry Rice and in today's game You know who's GonNa Cover on Bacon? Cover back then you put him in. Today's where you you you know. He can run down the field and he can go across the middle back. When you guys are playing football you know. Very few receivers win across the middle That and in Basketball. The rules are very similar to football. Everything has changed so consequently. The statistics have gone up in football just like the statistics have gone up in individual performances in basketball. But there are a lot of things that you can do. Now in basketball is like in football. There are a lot of things that you can do that. You Know Fifteen twenty years ago. You know you just couldn't do. I got a crazy story real quick about the exactly. What you as Jason. Great question because things look tougher doesn't mean that they're better. We had a slower receiver in Jacksonville. One time in training camp running running running throw the ball deep route. He don't four caught at the crowd erupted. You know what our coats it. If he was faster he wouldn't have the dive. That's my point. That's what we're seeing right now. These guys ain't gotta do on. That pay are for this crazy. Sorry really big. They they are different. You know I before I met Steph Curry Thought Steph curry and I was the same side and then when I met him. He's bigger than me know. Thank you so much we gotta keep it moving one back when the last dance documentaries over because really. WanNa get into that in depth Jason. We Love Marcellus Wiley only Wednesday after bill uncle. Jimmy's just around the corner. More speaking after this Bob. I just briefly yourself from the crib. Jason Lewis Role. After Jimmy's Korea give take uncle Jimmy. You know you WANNA be like Michael Jordan you go. Hey Mike had brothers trying to be like Mike. The deadly note that they was trying to be like Mike. Mike had brothers dressing clean. Clean Cut clean-shaven no tattoos one airing and that was guest. Michael Jordan show showed up with to work digit job. You'd win sooners retired what did the NBA Duke Body. 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Nobody yeah so you know allow us. Time passed adamov attempting to lynch jarred. Sorry if you were really interested. Wanted to harry You could just google up. George is widely known. But i desk giving us some quick access again that a man thing Yet add a mob you know attempting to lynch him and manala pretty much. She got a trial answer. Pretty shaam driller f- shaam trial e. I'd no african americans in the courtroom horse The jury deliberated for ten minutes on found him guilty on accused him since sentenced him to die with like within like eighty something days. I think it was. It was executed again in fuqing electric chair. Fourteen fourteen-year-old born teen tino. Innocent block. Boy keith asked yourself in on that who think they were trying to protect because and then diaper situations and has been known as always cloudy some white enough to be protected and some block person up the suffer. Will you think they'll try to protect lie. Listen nope nope let you talk first. Let you talk. I shut up lots. So why brought up his story. Of course very saad. I'm in a heartbreaking. The thing that a young guy a sentence death you know given the capital punishment so we what are. Get into the debate of capital punishment. I think we talked briefly on early episodes but we can dedicate a full episode camera. Mcabe wrong Salons let me just re with capital punishment is that if people are an annual get entered buddy porch so i'm going to read this from rotunda dot com capital punishment also called death penalty execution fender sentence death after conviction by caught sar my ass. By a court of law of criminal fence capital punishment should be distinguished from traditional execution carried out within the process of law. The term death penalty is sometimes used interchangeably with capital punishment. Though imposition of the penalty is not always followed by execution. Even when it was upheld on appeal because of the possibility of a commutation of to light i would commutation to life in prison anyway so yeah capital punishment. Basically as you know getting sends that you going die Feel about the death penalty personally shares. My thing regarded death bounty right and no. I'm not against it for one. However i am against it and a broken system because the system is broken in fact that's every every world system is broken. Now let's say right. We notice person around the neighborhood who can touch molesting and raping every younger. We have proof that we have. We legit have the proof of that is word. I caught creek. Nordahl lake legit for one darkness earth debt. Because and hear me. When i say this from you mess up a you mess up a moment you mess up a life from you mess up a life. You don't deserve to have yours. No more like the jet you of life you make another forget an and this this discrim over one me when i say one time i mean. It's one of the reasons why i'm so combative today. My sister she was almost raped brew. my mom. She was working at the airport and social services helping us at the time when we couldn't afford a place and we will stand at a hotel. I did my best to try and stay up until my mother arrived home. Everyone with ray sleeping. I'm watching boys in the hood before the end and after rookie shot i drift off and i fall asleep. This dude gets in a room at high gets room. He gets a key from the front desk because apparently oil was in cahoots. Fyi i this is the ziada hotel at close down your legacy coming to life. And he gets a net. he puts his multiple. Does he puts his hand on my sister. Moat he grip slow. Then we talk a colleague if you make any sound gonna kill your brothers on your little sister. My little sister was stephen in alabama big sister and my brother. We just drops sleep. My knife is in the front draw at the front row. And i keep that to protect my family. So he drives drags out the bed. She's trying to his knee hitting autonomous shop quoted about them start whatever she scared debt. The only thing that stopped him from raping my sister wrote as him. Knowing the time at my mother got in so after everything is said and done he leaves the room she puts the latch on a door. Whatever she wakes up my brother and my brother wakes me up on mike. What often he's broke. Stay up someone. Just try rape desert. And i see desert in the corner. She looked like she got the smile on the face. But she was sucked. She was sucked out of them. She was crying scared. And i was like what the hell and i'm like. Why didn't you wake up tonight. From the draw and i was outta my mind pissed off like i bro. Legit years later we ended up in the same position bucket. The same motel. She calls me over. She says she knows the guy who did it. She points to guide to me. She said please stay calm. Don't do anything both took every engine me not murdered a sky not take vengeance into my own hides to slit his neck rate knowing the fact that he messed up. My sister's life broke. Yes she is gone now. No she didn't go by the hands of that but at the end of the day life you change. I believe in capital punishment in that regard strongly from you change and take away a life and not regard. You don't deserve yours all right i'm against it in. Oh me being the love of life and i. I liked the sanctity of life in automatic. Yeah not trust me totally. Honest donald coming from I do believe like people like the world is really full of evil people and does a lot of after s word however. I don't feel that gives us humanness the right to take their life because regardless if they take another life for mass up in a live another life punish them. Shaw punish them. But i freely. Along with the punishment you know anew like removing them from society rehabilitate like try abreast. The rehabilitate people. I would thus my personal viewpoints in it and automated. Because i feel every everyone saad life innocent everyone side road is a bb innocent that guile wendy abuses who knows what he may have been through the put him on. I bought not saying you know. Feel sorry y'all whatever fame but could happen him and not yet. Santa monica different. But unfortunately so i always feel like you gotta try via not people out if they don't take the rehabilitation then keep them move from society because they don't deserve to go back. In in autumn man you don't try on but killer and capital. I don't feel that way. Of course many people could disagree with a is this. I am one of those people. That disagree i since the courts didn't catch up to him. I might add that. There's a happy ending for me. He's dead he killed because he tried to do it again. To another person. The streets contain justice xactly. So daas dare detail form of capital punishment. I call it therefore because it's outside of the law the broken system. If you will so to say that you know really really be able to work in for some people pro some people content with just being and i quote the bad guy. They will look you screen your face and tell you buy. I don't care. And if i was chained up or being in this position right now i will kill you for sure. You understand that some people in this world. that just don't need to be a now. Don't get me wrong in regard to capital punishment. How i feel like. I said it is broken because a lot of a lot of air sent men and women and children for that matter that have died for nothing for nothing because the system said. Oh hey guilty how we can go on forever. We could go on innocence capital punishment forever but it is necessary for some wicked people. Be some wicked people donaldson witted wicked people out of x. Villa wicked people with person. Deserved it whilst shi'ite say deserve it is but you know people would find that he deserved it. You know ted bundy an own exceed wicked schalken me vile supplement judge described. Her you know. Ted bundy averred story. Now he was User rapist and murderer necrophilic yum killed all sorts of women. I'd saxwood a dad bodies like decapitated on that. It was took durant's but he was so like charming smooth like he always sweden people story. Sounds so familiar and people like them. It's all a game. It's the jet allah game. They kicks off. Doing it is innocent and in regard to capital punishment even even outside it to meet wrote. The world is better off at some people. Even if you have to remove those people if i have to protect more people by removing us. Exactly what. i'm gonna do personally honestly and truly speaking and i've been placed in a situation before many times if i have to protect someone and more people by removing you out of this physical realm. I will do so so lhasa saw. What a facts that gathered punishment and crime rate quit. Do you feel like if capital punishment is like thus thus like concrete thing now. Are you feel at affect crime. It wasn't an osce wouldn't it honestly wouldn't because entity crime and then shimmy shimmy when his crime ain't got nothing to do it and it is not fair in the law. My farren debt of debate most been gil operating mostly nichols in say. Look i got nothing to lose if the cops out me right now. I got nothing to lose right now. I gotta kid at home and eat right now. I got bills right now. Need to get paid a lot. My backside item by five months an steiner with situation zooms then when you desperate nothing i mean nothing on us a dangerous ma you understood don all right so if negative fan getting pop the law what the hell is capital punishment. You are people who've been in the chair before you know getting the repin people an awesome call know any loss worst to start. Whatever no f- standards that you wanna say. Yeah i have no regrets. I did what i thought was best to do from my little one. I did what i thought was best for my wife i did. It does best my husband. He was best. I my son my daughter so crime now blood. The only could affect crime is easy away for people fixing society fixing jobs fixing the wage gap the lower class middle class and upper class fix. And not. Just the only thing you can do to fix. Crime ewing fixed graham. No autoweek snigger. Thanksgiving death no more. I was actually talking to one of my boys about it. Couple months back. And i remember like i was asking him about lake. How he felt about it He say okay. 'cause i was telling me no i feel about it like on a cabin punishment. By whatever so he said okay. A modulus because realistically rehabilitation in the forefront of the president's assume so he say a modulus and you sentenced to life in prison You spend in your life in prison behind me as well as possibly to get rate dr whatever. The case may be like a bunch about ashworth often do i. Then you get your free meals. A day lay common taxpayers money. Or whatever they'll be cheaper to just killing people and be done with it. I thought myself like us. So inhumane know like i dunno lewisham about i don electrcity and not poison still coming out of my talks money so yeah so i still a louis but i have to think about the protection of others when dog like i say if i have to remove you to protect more people who does exactly what i'm gonna do. I don't know if i guess that's my problem. I just think like no. No no good people. The say no. Don't say the problem because at the end of the day you need people like you just At least say okay. Hey you know. Want change or try to see the best people in people do need. It broke the same me trying to contradict nothing. What i'm saying it is needed but at the end of the day broke realistically speaking supercharge. No people that just don't need to be in this existence anymore. Sh i guess sam A tale of idealistic views versus pragmatic. Musee ashley what is liberal side gas. You know guys if you haven't thoughts in amara you good ebay lasette Mass won't hit us up on facebook about it instagram. Yeah we want to hear from you lease reviews on whatever. You listening to us on A sabah conversation. If your personal us let south we a doctor would it do no problem now. You can go certain people messaging problem so okay the thing through the thickness sacred duda thing. I bet here we go. So i wanna talk with this. Desire mama disobey. And i didn't forget this hill. Forget this and i. I used to run track by kennedy. We attract his You know growing up. I grew up on each other and my mom my siblings on my zag but was never really in a closely to grow So this little girl at track. Like i i even forget. Him am gabrielle. Shannon i saw like as a note system like a caveat shannon. I know her. I don't know name sounds so familiar. She should be what nineteen twenty dollars. If yet but i saw a snake a little sister behold firmly thinking selling like we was you know we got a good. We aren't yet rhino. Just a crack jokes let Track wise and all of those is a good. it's a good one But one day off chance and a it broke my heart negative still by date the think about it so one day we up legged on our laps i think someone like drop drop some four sub montegranaro like someone hit my foot man. Yes the word yes. Let's see some old firm. Yes rhoda so it's like someone dropped four underground or like subway. Was eating a southern florida. Twelve on the ground and she was like aw eat the food leg enough off the ground so i said okay you pick it up and eat it and i need it you know lake which is still be like okay of. Ucs enough threatening. I could do it. I just like whatever. But i guess how she took it was i got to blame for. She called me a pervert because she must be thought of a lake. Oh i won you decide off. Do i like her. She told you to eat. I know but see how she took. It got like. I say county will blame a for. She took it as like. Let's say a county drop on the floor. She probably saw like me telling to pick up the cabinet. Eat it. I love. Eat it after late. Eat like eat when she like some weird show so i can't blame her for thinking about but it breaks my heart. 'cause i know like i saw like a little sister ruin it was like i just matthew and i know she took nutley wrong way. Bryan i if she take up a piece of food and she eats that piece food. You will take up another piece of the food on the floor and you need that other piece of food by buying but see. She was young she probably she probably has raised the white race. I got even get modern. The right way lake nicaragua. No alert and she. I kinda got modest turpin. Never right room. sorry now. No i send me knocking a chick right but doggone it take your seal off for minute. You see what i'm saying. She was young man. She was young. She was a younger to have this nigga a school telling you something like that you probably think shannon grow up when see you on site. What is the biggest game which didn't tie boy job akita. See you're listening to this gabrielli. Hostile one was he. What years later dow promise. It was a misunderstanding. And okay i promise you it was a stat at best you a. We ever saw my childhood memory this nonsense when every much hate needles hate needle fear. The childhood memory keys When i was a kid. I had something in my head. I think they call it soysal. Whatever and i couldn't go to classic legitimacy kept me thought a class and it was one of the worst times of my life. I felt like i was a disease place. Aleppo you exactly. That's what i set by the office all day. And i cried day but i was always happy with my mom soda. Seen so you know after after a while you know she pops up in. She gets me when she took into the walk in clinic in order to get rid of this and apparently to walk glenn. It got the cure for every disease known. Monica leading aides. Who thought so. I'm on me go there. This visit eight years old and we go. And there's this short haired white lady when white bus on another forget it and she takes me in the box. She talks to me. She's talking to my mom. So cool and and i feel so comfortable is beautiful white woman just taking care of me and then she pulls out this neon she said okay here we go on just goes in and immediately i looked down like not a hauler enrolled like where you get off putting his knee lynn in me dog. He's a young boy. I seven eight years old kit seventies. I was hollering row. Was seventeen thirty dollars. Okay i i not say seventy i was type whatever. Yeah i bet. I title ix we get so she she goes. Did anyone have any burger. King mcdonalds meal. I like dobby like that. Actually i was a very skinny little jet when i was a kid very very slim. That's my salad memory. I'm still fearful needles. I'll lay needles. I go donate blood right now. And they helped fight me in the blood bank bri. What you're the me to the bed. Hard cough me. And all i will tell you the time when i get to the room and look at the bed bidding. Thank you always come next but so you already. You almost about You know. I really think they need that. Y'all got like a bunch and saw we do you are you in But i got class what you'd want to I take it off bro. I would make any excuse. And every time i kid you not do it. Fight and chicken up to my hans hurts okay. Only news news shooed and always show it to me. So you know what this china memory teaching me about you. What dra masica. Spur what. I had a ladies love that ladies. My boys masakatsu. Yeah we you know. Some fellas like the to ask You'll at you when you when you. I'll let you google when you go to a massive deserves. No no no if you like. That fellas hit a mother. Wrong bro. also nowy caught. Swing woodrow caught mosca. So no no no no. No it's not fellas. 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3D Printing Today

39:50 min | 1 year ago

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"Aw Three D printing. Today's show three fourteen tool changing nozzle drool discussing tool changing a tip on cutting the tip back to Three D. printing today today the podcast about all aspects of Three D. printing hobby professional industrial doesn't matter we covered all my name's Andy Cohen. And I'm here Mr Potter. How you doing doing pretty good i? I'm looking through for some stuff on. T. C. T. T. C. T. is the late is the DEPR- Three D.. Printing show probably the the last of the commercial shows we used to have a whole bunch of them like inside three D. printing. Remember that one they described as TC T. three sixty exte- and they say it's the event for three D. Printing and additive intelligence Lou well That sounds good in any case. It's the last the last one that that I know of that. The people out there know of others that are worthy there is one that comes up. ide- tech. That's in the bay area area but it has a lot more than just three D. printing its manufacturing in general. I've never gone to tech. Maybe one of these years old make the drive down there but none of these have the pizzazz that the used to and if we look at this article which was written by a fellow Michael Mulligan. Who's been around for Quite Wild Three D. printing world? He talks about the the number of attendees this one's in Birmingham. UK and they had over ten thousand attendees now ten thousand four a big tech nut technology conference is actually kind of small like for example. The the the dream cream. What is it the Dream Week that they had here in San Francisco salesforce drive force that had A couple hundred thousand people go two and that's about the size about the same size as cas in Las Vegas every January When you go to see you're going to see a a lot what an lots of exhibitors In the article they mentioned it's more than three hundred exhibitors in the thousands of exhibitors. When you go to some of these other shows now that's neither either good or bad and sometimes you're better off going with smaller show? Because of the focus for example in the Mid West repre festivals a perfect example of extreme focus on a specific ethic market in Three D. printing right and very very passionate people in very interesting projects as opposed to a a huge show. Were just everybody goes. Because you gotta go and I I wouldn't expect to see very much at TC t for the hobby market. The desktop open source market. I don't I would not expect that what I would would expect. Is the kind of stuff we used to see where we went to inside three D. printing that is business focused purely on big money business and if we look at at the things that that the F- Mr Hugh put into the article that he saw that were worthy of mentioning is there's a couple of new materials from let's see Three D. Systems unveils one reason for SLA and then they talks about the maker curb released releasing asa element for the method. Asa is the one of the materials that strategists as well known for Fr- AH proprietary material for their own machines and it looks like strategists has moved out to the maker Bot markets now the method from what we understand looking at their marketing. The materials is not being aimed at the hobby market any longer. It looks like is now moving. Only within the realm of the strategists industrial professional market at those prices on not surprised Yeah and then. There's the mention of absorb tracks where it's the same kind of thing. Zora attracts was known for their small desktop. Open source starting point machine at is they built that machine using open source elements of course like most non all open source manufacturers. They closed it This machine that they're discussing on in this article is peak peak capable and obviously all closed. I don't think they'll be sharing any aspect of its design publicly And it looks like it costs it quite a bit. So you know what we're seeing based on just this tiny sample unfortunately is companies. That are kind of falling. I'm in between those cracks between the Super Low end hobby market that. We've we're part of verses the high end industrial Israel professional market where the machines cost upwards of four to ten thousand dollars so those one thousand to three thousand dollar machine companies. Kind of you know. They're having trouble so either. They go super inexpensive. which is really hard to do unless you have a manufacturing capability that so you can get away with charging them giving them as little as possible or you move up to the higher value more expensive markets and that seems to be what we're seeing for maker bought and from your tracks here we've also seen that from ULTA maker and we're starting to see it from other companies like race three DS moving that way with their latest machine Thankfully craft unique seems to be staying within that Middle Road. Let's hope they survive since good. Yeah that's that's their their one last ones because we've seen a number of other companies that we've talked about that and we're in that space are no longer unfortunately. Yeah well in the meantime what's coming up on our show this week. Let's see we start out talking about tool changing nozzle drool and then we discuss tool changing in general. And then you give us a tip on cutting the tip. Is that like an interview with the MOYLE. No so everything's worked out hardware wise. In the tool changer. Things are printing fairly reliably. They're printing they're not printing as perfectly as the clone or one is which is understandable because the tool changers head is pretty heavy. There's a lot of mass flying around and it's pretty complicated but I'm getting pretty good. Prince considering I can't run at the same speeds like running at eighty millimeters per second is probably not a good idea with the tool changer. There's too much mass movement around fly average bridge around forty millimeters per second which is the same speed that I print on the eighth on the under three. So it's not a performance monster but button my print with only one extruder. I can get better better. Print quality. Remember it's a it's a boden and as such especially with very very short tool paths because of the tool changer. So think about this. I'm printing the three D. Benji and the Three D. bench. He has a little ships wheel inside the cabin. And and the ships we as opposed to it doesn't on many different supposed to And in the Multi Parted Three D. bench. which is great for testing multiple extruders multi multi material methods such as the pallet or the Mu for the purposes? It's great for the tool changer. But but there are times such as the little ships wheel. You'll see it in there in the cabin where the tool path for that little tiny part part of the ship's wheel is so small little tiny circle. It'll it'll tiny bid that The problems start to arise because of the use the bowdoin because the Bowdoin as the as the feeder motor for the bowdoin pushes the pressurized by shoving filament towards the hot end. There's a compression time that happens as it rotates and shoves the filament. It's not like electronic I mean there's there's that's a lot of plastic that can bend move as well as compressed so there's a little bit head of rotation before the stuff squirts out because there's clearance in in the tube so it's not like a perfect conduit right so you're you're never going to get that the quality of with a vote in that you get with a direct drive in terms of the extrusion itself. Now there are. I know if you're out there and you've been imprinting with an ULTA maker for years you probably think you're printing any day with your director and that's probably true. There are ways of getting around on that issue but in this particular use case no because of the way reprinting a little tiny tool path and this also explains lanes to me. Why the the only Multicolor Three D. Benxi that I've seen out? There is a enlarged. Three event. uh-huh because of course when you're enlarged your two paths are bigger which means you don't run into the kinds of issues. I'm seeing because of the Bowdoin extruder so there are our problems. Another problem related to the Bowdoin and I think this problem would be there even if it was a direct drive. Extruder is rule all because remember the tools there's four tools and they're parked and they're hot and the stuff that's Multan inside the melt zone just kind love pulls down from gravity solve that gravity providence in it draws down and kind of leaks out so when you then go to print you've got disheartened string sticking down there and then it gets to your print now if you put a purge pillar there what happens is that the stuff low. The drew long drool. That's hanging down. Crashes into the purge pillar that eventually you're going to get a a nozzle crash into that plastic And that will knock the perch pillar right off. Okay it's very very large. It'd have to be very and then there's the problem with an who's an uis shield. Simplify three she has a really slick feature that. I've used successfully with dual extrusion where you put like one. Shell Shield around on your object so that as the dripping drooled extruder gets to your object. The drool gets wiped wiped or knocked. When you draw the next night on that shield well the the the amount of drooling plastic from the tool changer is substantial so much so that it will not only league knock off the shield but if you put the shield on a raft it'll knock off the object with the raft because the stuff just gets everywhere and it just knocks into everything thing? If you're lucky and it doesn't knock off stuff doesn't crash nozzles you'll get a rat's nest of the little little drools on literally every tool change. So are you keeping the other extruders hot. You have to while you're while you're otherwise you're going to be there for a week. Nick take forever okay. So there are methods of cleaning off the end of the nozzle now the method that he three d seems to talk about which which I scratch my head over again like these guys do this. They just say man whatever. Here's a kind of a solution you go figure it out. And I don't agree with that approach. I don't think that's wise. I don't think that's good. I think it's good in encouraging the community to go out and think and come up with good things but it's it doesn't leave a good taste in your mouth. Is Mars. How that company operates because what these guys did is they? They came up with what looked like a good solution. They they give you in the get hub with all the parts that you have to print a little wiping purge bracket that attached to the side of the printer and they went to the trouble of of actually putting slotted holes in there for this bracket on both sides of the printer so they committed themselves listed this designed to some degree and the bracket has like a loophole. The nozzle goes goes over. And then purges and send some drool down and then it's supposed to pop that drool off by going past a little wire bridge. It's supposed to go onto there and then they talk about putting a metal brush into the slot that you're supposed to go white but a couple of times on then they say to you. Oh but if you use the metal brush you can't use the brass nozzle that comes with the six. You've gotta go get a hardened steel nails alert right. Well yeah I could use a brass brush but but then you'd have to have a brass nozzle that was softer than that. So yeah better better to avoid that. What about a piece of I use A high temperature silicone own. Foam is a foam rubber boots. High temperature silicone. That's not a bad idea and it's great for wiping way nozzles on. That's one idea another idea that somebody on the three deformed reform came up with was a silicone Brush that you can buy for basting. It's rated at I think it was two sixty degrees. F mm-hmm or like A C. was to sixty C five hundred degrees F and I did purchase two of them. I did get two of them. I saw them for sale at bed. Bath beyond and then you cut them down and slide them into the exact same bracket And then you can then just wipe it with silicon. But here's here's the problem. Here's the issue and this is why I say wait a second. Let's think about this in order to get cleaned you have to then pick up your tool all right and then travel to this bracket so you've just got one of these for all of the tools you can put on both sides. Yeah but one. On each side travel to your bracket uh-huh aw purge wipe wipe and then go to your to know that stinks. That's not a design. Why not just have some kind of a little little squeegee? That's just outside of the tool base. So that when the tool gets hooked up it does get dragged across that. And that's exactly what an acquaintance of ours Mr Michael Hackney. He did with his baby unit and I saw it at Murph me the Midwest repre festival man. I contacted Michael. Who by the way good news bad news? The bad news is the community's not going to have as much Michael Hackney the good news is Michael Hackney's VP of software engineering at Desktop metal so he got a great new job and he's going to be influencing the good company In any case he sent me the files for this kind of a Pete a Pi wiper that that the the tool passes by a knocks off the the the drool and it kind of rotates. Tate's away great idea but I think I came up with an even better idea. Okay I took some Bungee cord. We're not sick bungee record but relatively thin bungee cord from a project that I did a few years back for a fellow that we did talk about on the show and it's stretched across blow the tool booze yes Excellent yes I I take two islets terminal islets attach them to the bolts that hold the titans together on one end and the other end position just high enough so that they string right where the nozzles go in the nozzle passes by The bungee travels down. It's the tip and then goes back up. The inside works great the perfect keep it simple stupid solution and it happens at the bates where there's no added traveling. There's no added time and I I that's how I was able to finally printed successful multicolored Benxi. However I WANNA make it even better and I can make it better by doing in the parking spot? A purge so that there's enough length to force it to completely wipe as as the Bungee cord and I may they put multi- multiple bungee cords to make an infallible So I'm I'm tuning it and I'm working on it right now. The the G. Code in the the files that are related to the tool changing. They're called T.. Free Post not pre. It's not working So I'm probably going to have to do. Is this set. My extruders in simplify amusing. Simplify Three D. here and in the script and that there is a tool change script I'm not sure I'm an experiment using that but at least in the startup then heat up all four extruders in startup. Which means I'll have to wait a while and and the way it works now it won't heat up the extruder until the extruded becomes the active intruder which means it has to wait a long time for well well during the print you have to wait for it to heat up but the problem then is you have to pick up? The tool in the tool goes past. The bungee cord dented heats up. And so initially. That's how it worked but I WANNA do is get it. So all four heat up right herge and then pick them up and they white and see how well that works. Yeah that that makes that makes much more sense rather than having a secondary operation of drought over some white station. That doesn't make any sense cool so many so many delightful the engineering workout. So Oh my buddy Whitney and I we just came back from the garage and we had some fun looking at the the the Three D. tool changer Kit that I just completed. We ran through some tests. We took some covers off. We played with it a little bit. What do you think any it? It's it's an impressively a well-built Rigid Printer and I'm I'm quite impressed. With how well the tool changers work on it I had a couple of questions in the in the way they Designed at not really kind of understanding the choices they made Like the The what we call that the X. Axis Gantry entry bar that's right. Originally that was Farben fiber right and during Beta testing from what I heard at the Midwest. repre festival It was rotating torquing too much working. Well that has to do with how how you've laid up the fibers And depending on what you know what what the orientation of the fibers is you could prevent that but Right now it say ridiculously complex aluminum machining gene. Yeah I looked at it and the underside has been honey. Combs practically yeah. That's not cheap to do time zone. That's yeah I used to work at a company that made big stuff made like that and I remember there was a design made for the skin skin of the rockets where they milled out. Triangles but little circles on the end of each tip of the triangle was designed specifically to bend and and make it circular without losing any strength and to do that took a highly highly specialized machine and it added an immense amount of cost whilst. Yeah so these guys are doing on a generic machine right and probably with a little tiny tiny bit at yeah adding a ton. They're taking it out. Miller something out of a solid piece of aluminum yeah. I don't know about that in terms of cost effectiveness for manufacture. Yeah I have no idea what they're paying to get there's parts of this is all being done in England right yes. I have no idea what it costs to get stuff scenes. He machine in England but I was just looking at that as a very very a complicated part for. I'm not sure what you really gain from From doing that you probably could've used a solid bar of titanium of a slightly smaller smaller dimensions. Not Machine that all but anyways you know different different choices are are are made in it But it's it's interesting. I was curious to see that at That you're actually Probing your tax your Z.. Limits which is only only only works when the tool when you don't have a tool heading right kind of thing right so we did talk about this in a previous segment. We wondered well. How do you had as a does e height for the extruder and we thought well maybe it hits the tip of the nozzle right gets a little bit of tension start? No it doesn't do that It already knows does that. Height and that height is predetermined and it knows to stop with a tiny offset given different different Different tools and the the the zeolite is is homed without a tool in the carriage. Right that same limits which is is also used for Mesh compensation it's the it's the sensor that picks it up. Some goes incredibly fast and by the way I got to say this it works the heck a lot better than the heck a lot better with a good Omron. Switch there right in a reliable spot spot. It goes so much faster is so much more reliable than the move spit. The sensor bring the thing up let it pop in read the data go to the next six wins censor out but the bill touches a totally different use case. Because you've got the extruder and the way that this is true and here. Yeah and it'd be Eh. It'd be easier to probe you know with any any printer like this if you didn't have the hot end in the lace right that's right but there are other things I mean when you look at the tool changer. You wonder from what I've heard. The plan is is that they're not really gonNA sell three printers. The plan is that they sell. They sell their parts. Which is today? EXTRUDERS extruders extruder sub components since the tighten the V6 the volcano and the tool changer is a vehicle to sell those things and one aspect of that is when you look at the tool changer. Ranger design the first thing you and I thought of is like why include what why not include on the head The extruder fan and the downward fan. So there's only one fan for these functions instead of an extruder Fan Donald Fan on every tool why not have that incorporated into the tool head and you save all those connections you save all that. Wait on the tool. You don't have to worry about it on the to simplify the tool and then just simply duplicated or anything on an easier to do it because there I mean the the the stock system is is to have you know they already have it all set up to have the the dollar fan and heat sink cooling fan. That's all under near one of those. We just sell the sixes that way are. That's how I think it's moving. I think they're going. You could also argue. Why use the aluminum for the tools? The tool plates and who'll heads. You could have done that. Set up pretty well with with Carbon Fiber Macomb superlight. Give yourself take take a lot of that weight away and then you can put a direct drive pancakes pancakes stepper and you. Can you put the direct drive of the pancake stepper on the carriage and then you hook that get to the driving mechanism the feeder gearing. When you pick up the tool when you pick up the tool? That's I mean those are all trade offs that could be made but the good news is they were able to take everything off the shelf and minimal custom design and get a reliable design and yeah and and and that makes that makes total sense in terms of creating reading of a Beta test bed like they've done and it's a very impressive machine but Yeah I had. I had kind of questioned a few of the choices like the bottom of it. Why do they have those cutouts on the bottom? Yeah I'm going to pose that question on the form. The why not leave the bottom plate solid right because as it is not that you've got these cutouts which you're you're spending you know not a huge amount of money's look like there were probably a water. I'm assuming they're probably water. Jetting that And so it's not terribly expensive to do and it makes it look kind of Scifi groovy may be but it also makes paint NASC as you can't sweep the scraps apps out the bottom of it them and you can't you can't enclose it right. Yeah so that's problem so it it seems like that say a A little bit of of intricacies forego have a better product and then there was the choice of the acrylic panels. Yeah everybody's seeing cracks. I did not put thread. Lock on those bolts because I knew better But there are people that did in the chemical reaction to the acrylic was to immediately create cracks interesting but even though I did not put put thread lock and I only lightly hand tightened I still getting lax and at least one of my panel has a slight crack in it. The Acrylic Erlich panels. Were not a good idea. They liked to point to the acrylic panels as a source of rigidity I I guess they should have used different material right. I'm I can see in the future having to get Those panels re cut and replaced. Yes as they are going to crack. Yeah I see I see the panel says I mean this is sort of a way to. I mean. That's where you're hanging your your filaments pools off of those right. Yeah Yeah but it's Kinda you get sort of a little bit of enclosure. So account a draft shield but then they didn't they didn't enclosed the front and the top of the printer so it's not not fully enclosed now in that respect So even if you did fully enclose it it's going to affect the schools because they're inside right. Yeah you you can't really heat it so my opinion in May have been better to put the feeders on the outside the steppers on the inside but the spools on the outside outside I don't know I'm sure people will be exploring it and playing with it. They're already they're already spool. Holders that Hook the schools on the outside or extrusions so people are playing with the month. I'm pretty sure that the attitude was like let's do the bare minimum and let the community figure it out right. But yeah one account one of the downsides of enclosure sure. Is that if you need to work on something. Then you're working in a much more difficult confined environment and that's especially when you've got all that all that Boden tube that you're going to be wrestling fill out of there. And you're GONNA have filament fracture in the bowdoin tube in half to disassemble the whole thing thing to get it out. Yeah I I hate that. I liked Baudoin's in general but but if you have a brutal film it in a Boden Ran Dan get about it. Yeah before you put element into a Boden you bend it. Make sure it doesn't break because breaks. You're wasting your time spinning. Your wheels never put Bertel Philemon not a good idea. Oh well well. We're going to be playing with this and experimenting with it and we hope that the community Freddie comes up with some interesting designs and we see some interesting tools. It remains to be seen what happens. You're now what do you think is the is the future for tool changing in in Three D. printing. When you think that's going to be a thing I mean based on what you've seen you think that's the way forward I think it is? I think that there are possibilities here. now after I get some semblance of reliability I'm going to be printing some big things in multi-colors the next step is to print things that require Complete support material dissolve -able sport material with one hundred percents A dense underneath and wit using PVA. Okay and let's see how well that works because that's really the holy Grail as far as I'm concerned for. MGM is to come up with a reliable relatively easy to use not too complex complex solution that lets us do resolvable hundred percent dents supports so that we can get super smooth undersides because as you know unless you have that right now. You're getting a rough yucky underside. If we can do that and do it really relatively easily uh-huh up and tool changing going to happen but one can argue. Hey you could do that today with an IDEX dual extrusion a dual carriage on on the X. Axis on e.. I'd like to see that I'd love to get the new craft bought. That's an IDEX. How reliable all that works for that? However the tool changer you can then do three colors with with the support so remains to be seen? I think there's a lot of power tool changing changing and if it's one hundred percent reliable and not too complex it prevent it provides you with the Potential for lots of solutions. It's not just one so we'll see cool and you think you think they're going to be coming up with with tools other than hot ends for this. That's what they're saying. We hearing of a uh-huh spindles or opt in aalst at you ever have that thing when you when you load your extruder and the filament jams going in Yep Painting a real pain now over the years ears with the Mark Sevens Mark Aids and other three D printers that I've had over the years these usually I I've upgraded in Audubon Tech's by now I have found that I get the most reliability on my loads if when I cut the filament at the tip because you know that when you when you pull it when you unload your filament it's it's GonNa always distort the filament to such a degree that it has trouble going through the tolerance told in diameter hole right. It's going to be a little thicker so you're always best clipping that. End Off Right. You should always do that and you WanNa do it before you load not when you store because usually when you store you're and you should be doing this you should put the tip of your filament. Through the whole on the rim of the Spool so it doesn't loosen up or tape. It somehow fix it's so that it doesn't let the filament get loose or you're going to suffer crossover and you're gonNA fell apprent because it's GonNa Jam your spool quite likely to so you clip the tip before you load now with these older extruders. I always found the best to clip it at an angle so go through. Kind of like wait on appoint yet and make it easier to get through the the idler arm in the extruder and then it would find its path his way into into the tubing eh right right now since then I I've got different. Three D printers and I got to the under three and we talked a lot about the under three on the show. And you guys know that we've got bunches of them at maker spaces that I teach classes and and I always. I always Kinda not look forward to the part part of the class where I got to show them. How to load the filament? Because the ender three is a boden and just about all bones that I know of use couples couplings There these are couplings that are holding the PDF tubing up against a plastic body. It's usually really at screws in and in the process it creates little edges that are inside their inner diameter right. So when you put the filament through it hallways hits up against that edge and get stuck and you pull it out shoveling pull it out. Shot in and I'm another reason why Boden's I got to. I learned this the hard way. Okay at one point. I'm in the maker space the other day and got a bunch of students and I'm going through this and I think you know what rather than going through the usual routine where I clip it at an angle Let's go the exact opposite and see what happens Andrew. Let's put it perfectly flat flat perfectly flat so that it's it's orthogonal all right. Who the length of the filament perfectly? Okay and then. Don't put it it in manually. Tell the extremely defeated succeed in and let it pull it in so that it's put creating the pathway And it goes in one hundred percent of the time interesting hundred percent of the time okay. Let's let's go another printer completely. Furner the e Three D. Tool Changer uh-huh which uses the three D Titan. feeders right now in this situation i. I've seen folks on the forms talking about this. The the the feeders are in a location. Particularly the two in the middle which is so inconvenient. GotTa get your hand underneath the cantilevered shelf and you gotTa Kinda hold hold. One Hand has to open up the right. The theater and the other hand has to shove the filament in okay so I put this exact same approach to the titans hundred to percents reliability. You cut it at a perfectly flat surface tell the extruder to feed in hundred millimeters at its fastest speed and and just draw it up into the wheel and let it take it and it goes in hundred percent of the time perfectly interesting Even if you've got like what if you're you like down to like the core of an old school of Pele's there's a lot of curvature in it and it's pretty stiff well it can get tricky. I'm sure it's not. It's GonNa you're GonNa get situations where it's not going to be perfect I've but I would not. I would not use that in a abode right. I I find myself. Unbending the the curve and instr- instr- straightening it out. So I could get it to remember you got that curve. It's going to be curbed inside the Bowdoin tube which creates friction and it makes it hard to pull it through BAUDOIN's don't get away Whitney another show written to the hard drive waiting for encoding. UPLOADING commitment on Dr Feed to olive are very supportive listeners. Over the past year two or three or four. How many years have we been doing this? It's been a while it's been quite a while. Yeah thank thank you all for listening. We do appreciate your downloading the show and taking the time to listen to what we have to say about three D. Printing. We do it for you. We do it for fun. No advertising we. Don't make any money off this show. We don't even talk about our own businesses on the show although I no longer have a business league and good for you there. There's an advantage to that. Yes and we'll be talking about those advantages on this podcast. They do use three D. printing excellent. So let's see I. You had the thing of the week this we I do yes. It's thing number. Three threes zero eight seven one zero. It's called the fully printable a wind up car gift card card and this is a really cool. If you're looking for a stocking stuffer or something to you could probably even fit this in a greeting card envelope slope. You can print it in a couple of hours and you end up with these two sort of kind of sets of parts that are all remember like the old at school. You know the the models along all plastic model things get a free rein holds all the parts of rice. Yeah they're all they're all attached so that they're really easy you to to you. Know sort of transport them as a unit. Put Him in an envelope. Borough or stuff amendments talking or whatever and then When you WANNA use it you in punch out all these parts in its gears? And it's it's literally it's it's like a clockwork escapement with a coil. Spring and EVATT drives a little car. Pretty cool a little wind up key. Pretty cool means not sure how well it will do with with P. L. Eight after us a quality. Pla I would prefer doing it in a BS or Peci yeah abs it'd be perfect for spring. Yeah anyway it comes to us from a bribe grow twelve. Who's otherwise known as Brian Broccoli of Belgium while so thank you Brian? 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So we figured let's just take off save the content for when you guys really want to download it so we'll start start again The first week of January and we do have a bunch of shows. But we're going to wait till then to let you know it's Kinda we still have a pile of stuff in the queue for you guys. Lots of stuff on the tool changer. And other new things I think that may be it for the year. Great will thanks for listening and have happy holidays. Whatever whatever you celebrate yes happy festivus Christmas new years all that stuff? Hannukah everything mm-hmm.

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Laurence Fox Is A Devilishly Charming Lord Palmerston

MASTERPIECE Studio Podcast

36:45 min | 2 years ago

Laurence Fox Is A Devilishly Charming Lord Palmerston

"Uh-huh. I'm Jay Cobb. And you're listening to masterpiece studio the healthy on days of Queen Victoria's early political life, the charming Lord, Melbourne long over and no-one character. Best represents the rough and tumble realities of the Queens New political life than Henry, John temple Lord, Palmerston, her new foreign secretary your majesty Royal highness, you knew I we asked you because I'm an asset to gathering have been formed to have been corresponding with the revolutionary government fronts. He's remarkably popular and highly populist effortless shifting from the highest halls of power to a casual corner prizefight in the park and his Oso, smooth persona. Quickly comes to great on Victoria's nerves out. She don't quite understand what these charges have in mind, actually, Lord Palmerston. I have spoken with the charter. I can you say the same with respect to man. One conversation doesn't make one inexpert actor Laurence FOX is no stranger. Masterpiece viewers after his eight season run is James Hathaway on the beloved inspector Morse spinoff series Lewis as Lord Palmerston. However, FOX finds great fun in a brand new character Palmerston knows a nose of bullshit to seize one. I think he rather likes fidora, and he likes the fact that she schemes and it's a fun game. But you know, in the end, he's got very serious masive. So that pays those two we speak to FOX about the real Lord Palmerston how it feels to play a savvy political operator and his upcoming album and later, Victoria, creator, head writer and executive producer. Daisy Goodwin will unpack the historical realities of Lord Palmerston in a new round, Victoria fact or fiction. And this week. We are joined by Victoria star Laurence. Fox, welcome. Hi. How are you doing you joined the cast of Ikaria this season as the vainglorious Henry temple Laura Palmer Ston? What did you make of the character? When you first read the scripts for season, three when I I I was pretty chuffed out to say, this is going to be fun. He's not man is Nacer him. It was a great stretch for me as an actor because I'm say, well, usually. Palmerston's? I seen is an impassioned speech in the house of Commons of Europe will lie uneasy in that beds tonight, knowing that the French people have risen up against an unjust king. There is a tide of liberty abroad, which taken at the flood will lead onto fortune. What is this speech say about Palmerston as a politician, and his allegiances, I think that promised was appealing to this at populous touch wasn't. Hey, you know, they quite keen to draw parallels between the eras that we're looking at. And I think Palmerston is is a bit of a populist in his way, and he makes no bones of letting the monarchs. No that that time on the throne should be numbered, or at least power over the people. I mean, he is in a sense these sort of alternate political operator, he's very cannily leveraging the public's love for his man of the people persona in order to secure his own agenda. What do you see as being that as in his own agenda? I never get the sense that. He's acting. I mean, I know they say he's being glorious. I think there's an ability to what he is trying to achieve you know, he likes to create chaos and then through that chaos. Broaden and widen Britain's influence in the world, which he succeeded in doing, and you know, he didn't down and wouldn't back down which brother of mine to say. How much research did you do into the real life Palmerston, particularly at this juncture in his career? I started reading the bog Raphy of him. And then I stopped reading it. Because ultimately, the older I get the more day the more. I think your job is to serve the script and deliver the vision of the writer and director, you're part of a machine essentially, so I just stopped. And I started playing the scenes and not made it easy because you know, the, I I read that he wasn't particularly brilliant orator. But in the scriptures rather, a good Oreta say, it would confuse me to go onto sat guy will maybe I should not be a good return. Nothing will I'm not really serving script here. So let's leave that and play the scene as it is. And hopefully it works better. That's my theory. I'm not sure done it. I would agree with me. He definitely displays some very lint anti-monarchy tendencies here at one point referring to the members of his own family as despots how sincere is he in these beliefs. I think it's Kasich British thing of. Turning up to that to a thirty. And we live in this very held together constitutional monarchy, and you know, one of the bonuses of of of being British is that one can tones nose up slightly at it. I think he does a lot of it for fact, and he'd pushes people to see how they'll react to him more than he's absolutely until monarchist because I don't think he is particularly a sent in the series. He's he's just looking to test metal. I think mainly he wants to see what she can take and genita- very long pause after my first Lyman, I color despot. And I thought I'm going to I she's posing social time. And then I watched it today. Deanna. She's furious. I got it. That's amazing. Palmer, and Russell's dynamic is so intriguing to watch despite being the PM wrestling's continually cowed by Palmerston what sort of political power Palmerston have behind him. That scares Russell's so much will I think the Russell is a career politician isn't he so he's not into charisma, and he's not into refuse if his he wants to get the job done and Russell's vice serious, and I think Palmerston just enjoys winding up because he just thinks this'll be fun. See how I can wind up. Russell an I John sessions. He plays. Russell is an old friend said we such took a bit of our relationship into it. Which is I'm the not school boy, and he's grown up. And I decided that that would be a good way of dealing with it. He does walk away with some of the finest lines of dialogue the season some of which are factual like his if I were not an Englishman. I would wish be an Englishman. Jan while others are. Invented. What did you make of daisy Goodwin scripts for Victorian, specifically, pans dialogue? I think he's very excitable, and she loves it. And you can always tell the right to love staying what they do because it's very easy to act sometimes one is left with performing. Seriously, put together scripts which wouldn't really suit this particular, jewelry, very very heavy and worthy scripts, and they're they're very difficult to bring up the page, but because days excitable, and she enjoys writing, and she would giggle and shoes onset. She got more to more. Yes. No do more. Even though the directors pulling the hats, please don't do that. And she would begin to more do more. It's brilliant to act, and she doesn't mind being noti, which is also fun. He can speak German French and Italian he can balance his walking stick on his palm silver tongue and the love of gambling. And the ladies is Palmerston as deliciously fun to play as it looks. Yes. Very much. So I did have a few qualms about the balancing the Kate on the hand things. I thought that's not that impressive today. But especially ones trying to remember how speech Herman such a purchase day on the cane. I m. I nicked from wardrobe because I wanted to be a bit like really one. So in the Kane in Kane, then became a feature, which is great actors sometimes get was collecting hands. Wait, quite show it to your hands. Save you've got a cane in your hand, you just twelve Cain baby. Twelve kane. Palmer Ston in Victoria, engage in a verbal and political tug of war. A wise Palmerston immune to queens charms that first. And why does he come around? There's an element of issue up to the job, which is sort of mildly, sexist, I suppose in a way, but would probably know up being sexist in those days, and I think he's someone who likes to test people's metal. So when he finds a reasonable and strong willed he begins to Maya if he sees other people what he's he's an himself. He warms to us substantially actually, and he can see that you can be abused. And he does want to be useful. He's not just in it for the japes. He is somehow quite able to get under Albert skin. Why does he take such pleasure in needling? The prince it's the the classic English being slightly main to the Germans thing that the Brits have done throughout the ages and in his mind album. It's not. Really? Relevant to this situation, and it's any through Victoria's understanding out. But that he understands that he, you know, he's going to have to get out on side at some point which he does make an effort to do later in the day. But you know, as he says, confusion abroad and peace instability, at home, you know, he he tries to create a bit of chaos and confusion with Albert, and that's a political move to try and get Victoria's do it. He says to album out of the equation. I think is what he's aiming to do. Feodor catches Palmerston sneaking into Sophie's room and blackmails him. How would you describe Palmerston's relationship with the queen's scheming half sister fidora pomace them this sort of cut from the same cloth? Aren't they, you know, in a way palmist as a Bush to NEC's one? I think he rather likes fidora, and he likes the fact that she schemes, and it's it's a fun game. But you know, in the end, he's got very serious masive. So that that pays apart those two, and I always thought they should probably have a snow, but never happened. He left his wife too much. I think that my one of my favorite scenes this season is the picture card exchange between Palmer Ston Feo. Which does crackle with this dangerous energy that borders on the sexual near pose? You forced me to play my card. Is that? It's a big truecard savannah chose you'd Osborne attempting to ravage the duchess of Monness. Your serene highness? I think we might be quits. What was it like filming that confrontation between the two of them you touch her cheek in a way that is very forward. Yeah. We were told very audio in not era. People didn't have buddy buddy, contact typically because there wouldn't always he knew antibiotics in no medicine to cure illness and said people very reticent about touching each other. So I thought I will palmist is gonna touch everybody. Then just to really let them know his Spacey's in and yes, it wasn't difficult to flat with with fidora tool. We learned that Palmerston lady Emma Portman had a pass liaison if their own is there anyone in London that Palmerston hasn't seduced. No, no, no, no. He's he's he's most of London. And you know, he's not done yet either. So it's all in a he he's he's a man his needs, and they need to be met. And he will he enjoys it is conquest. It's it's fun fan. And yes, lady appointment was one of his finest moments. He really enjoyed that evening that series of evenings does MS pleader Palmer sin to leave. Sophie, alone hit home is he moved by her remembrance of their own complications. I think he's quite interesting that part of the story because you need expecting to be Kelsen not thoughtful or sensitive to anybody. But I was quite Cain. Fair him have a conscience on some level because humanizes him Abed and. That was quite a few conversations about why I was playing it so Dali because I was playing very very reflective and not, you know, not gregarious as per usual. And I thought that it was important. It does hit home. And he does talk about this month being very role. And I think he doesn't want to particularly if she was slightly stronger and was more scented in 'Self. I think he would have gone for it. But he takes what Emma says seriously, and he shows respect where respect is due to safety. In this week's episode, we traveled to Ireland and Palmer sins estate where we finally meet the elusive lady Palmerston, Emily temple. I love that we meet Emily not looking like a woman to the manor born. But a beekeeper what did you make of this reveal what it says about Emily? I thought it was very funny. We got to shoot him really lovely day. And I guy goes another Dakhla in trouble, actually, because they said you would never have Royal advisor. Who? It was very active that say when I finally see my gorgeous wife's face until I got a case. Then I really, and he was no, no, no, you know, whatever kiss in front of the crane tough. So yeah, I was really popular with the role advisor. She can probably imagine. Palmerston says at one point that the quote there is no squirreling of Emily. How does he see Emily, both as a woman and political operator herself? I think he's in all of her. She's definitely a bubble of the women one, though, the woman he respects most in the world. He's Madden over there. I think he said of revenge spec to kind of Joe on the floor schoolboy when he sees her. And he writes her opinions about everything he knows when she's got somebody to say, he's really listening. And I think that's a lovely representation of what that relationship was especially given the dynamic civilly the other relationships in the show, you know, the so many different ones with Victorian album and safe in Monmouth that it is quite refreshing to have that that taken I enjoyed dot as she tonight said very much. We learned that Palmerston and Emily have an open marriage with must've been shocking in Victorian times because it's still for some shocking concept today, how do they acquaint that sexual freedom in their marriage with love? Well, I think you know, I'm we having this conversation. A lot today about what marriage is and you know, people saying it's basically just possession and ownership of somebody else. And I think between them it's practically they've realized that if they don't wanna spend a lot of time together bearing in mind that I learned to London in those days was a hefty L trip that you know, if you needs to get his rocks off somewhere or she needs Horrocks off somewhere, then the NFL enough. I think it's what what what one might tell modern relationship, isn't it? And how would you describe their bonds? Specifically is it a marriage of equals, or at least as equal as a man and woman could be in the nineteenth century. I think Marjorie. Absolutely. You know, obviously, this is this the practical elements of the vote in various things in the fact that women essentially were men's property not spiritually or or practice practice. But demonstrably they were the possessions of men, and I think they they broke that mold those two, and they were very much equals. And. They'll say one of his team say, and you know, lovely was seems like a very healthy and happy relationship before this next question. A brief word from our sponsors. Saint Petersburg's Hermitage Moscow's Red Square. Golden ring towns Viking dedicated to bringing travelers closer to the real Russia along the waterways of the SARS offering a small ship experience with short excursion included in every port. Discover more at Viking cruises dot com slash drama. Looking to relive the first two seasons of masterpieces, Victoria, get caught up with PBS passport member benefit from your local PBS station to learn more. Visit PBS dot org slash get passport. I love the scene of Henry and Emily in bed as they casually discussed Monmouth in so fee that pull go. One does feel sorry for her that all one field. Oh, emily. That's beneath you just as long as she isn't beneath you. You have my word. Good. Thank you. Although I think it shows non characteristic lapse of taste. She's very decorative seditious any skin she'd been flayed. Then repair is love then you are not the man for the job, my donning. I am not a has a sense of Sophie as an object of less changed. Or does. He see her more clearly now that she's out of bounds. As it were. I think he likes her. And is often the case, isn't it? You start off with us at a frivolous loss fo- failing to someone then when you see the wound in them, which is, you know, most people have he begins to take him more. Seriously. I think he he wants the best full her. And I think he thinks that has been this is the, you know, the virus example of the vilest said a prehistoric English feudal Lord that he and yet powder the establishment. He said Cain to tear down that the United. He he she would need to be strong in that situation. So he would want to build her up rather says genuine, I think is the onset of the question. What's interesting to me is she was initially conquest, and he takes an almost funkier tack with her when he discusses the each that. She can't reach is this a turning point for the character. Yes. Because he's again, he's a savvy bliscoll operator, and he understands exactly what she's getting into. And he's trying to say to her that how life is going to be over if this happens. And if she's if she saying, so he's he's just it ain't even when you're young and someone bit older new if you bet of advice in a gentle way that stays with you for a long time. I think that's what he's trying to do that. Just when I thought that Palmerston couldn't get any more devilishly confident. He plays. It so utterly cool. When Monmouth confronts him at the club, just so unflappable somehow our love soon it so quickly, but it was seven. Damn you look at me. Have you been rupturing my wife? I have not. Little less of that. And you might Roger her yourself as rather more authority than you to present. He despises he really come bad sort of man because you on this married for money. And then, you know, he treats her like a dog, and, you know, Palmerston's note like that as a man I mean, yes, he's a cat. But he's also cod with the successful marriage and loving family. So devalue Monmouth expunges are enough to him. And he can't bear them say anything he can do to Ted down. He will. But you know, like all great points out made with a raised voice. So they and the best point throws made gently even Joe Killaly. We know that Pam is destined to become prime minister in his ambition is obvious his wit. Does. He see the role of foreign secretary as unnecessary steppingstone to reach the highest office. Yeah, it's not bad job front. Six shays. It is a very important job back in those days when written had more overseas interests instead of important job today. But yeah, he he's going to do the best. He can do in any job because he's not he's not all bluster. He's also policy and his very strong sense of right and wrong. If he's seeing something's wrong. He goes after it. So yeah, he's a moral arbiter and PM is the jump for him. I think he's walking a very fine line while he's loved by the public. He's run afoul of the Royal couple. He's often on the outs with the PM who needs him for the time being where's Palmerston story going this next few episodes might he be knocked down a peg or two. With every rise. There's also full put it that way. They're all. Yeah. He he does get done a peg o' to while he's got the public on his side. He can do pretty much anything you want. But if he doesn't have the public on his side, then he is naked and afraid. So yeah, he does get done a penalty. You were infamous on Lewis for your running gags with individual members of the crew haven't lately told me once that you insisted on referring to him as Donald fan mistakenly called him that has that trend continued on Victoria. It's worth I don't really see the point in getting at five o'clock in the morning five thirteen getting city makeup chat, and then pretending to be someone else. Fidel hours. It seems to me that the best way of doing that is to enjoy it as much as possible. And therefore does involve China wine people are, and it goes them pretty well, actually because, you know, otherwise films, and TV sets can become very very slow and very dreary paces. If if someone's not there to provide the light entertainment, but fortunately, Jordan Wala who was his even not in. I am. So between us we got into all sorts of trouble. I fully wound trouble as well. I would ask them what was sort of the best or worst gag that. You perpetrated on the the cast and crew. I mean, it's I'm hate to tell you, but pretty much unrepeatable when they go low we go lower. You grew up in a legendary theatrical family acting is in your blood and DNA. Did you always want to be an actor known to? I didn't I paid almost zero interest to acting until I was about nineteen. I think I did it play at school where I played a blind black blue singer. She's interesting costing for me, and I didn't have any lines. And I asked for prompt repeatedly. Somebody say match, she doesn't change very much. But now, I didn't I would I I want to be a musician. Really? But then I did acting and and then acting seemed to go well, so I do teen primarily now, which is good. I love it throughout your career your often cast as tufts upper class Pasha's. Not why do you think this is because I'm not close Porsche. I say it's just the shape of my face. And I think I got out sort of face, you know, that kind of anger toll British superior thing. I feel that way inside. I think I my my resting bitch. Face is partially. Your first onscreen role is in two thousand one psychological thriller, the whole secure nightly in thoroughbred your character. Jeff is murdered after hoarding Coca Cola in his backpack. What do you remember if shooting this? I remember being extremely excited about getting the job. I remember my dad taking potion in my wages to pay for my final drama school, which I thought was entirely unfair. And then I remember them. I remember shooting. See when I got really I'm Gary when Kirin nineties catcher died, and I said, well, what do I do? And he said would just get really ugly. And so I got really angry, and I grabbed hold of a bit of the set and Barry mind that the set is made out of it a pasta in various, and I ripped entire chunk of the south. They went caught what do you? And I was I always get angry. I I remember thinking I'm going to be massive movie star now, and they you went from the whole into your turn as penalties. Marquis's son Rupert Standish, Robert Altman's academy were nominated period drama Gosford Park. What was this experience? Like that was great mildish in Ferodo unconventional to say. The least. Where we we basically just had a long smoke. And then he said you want the part or not. Yeah. Even this yours great. I mean that guy was amazing. He gave me some of the best night's ever as I think at one point. He said to me. Your lines less important than your costume. And then he said you characters gay. Why didn't he tell me this Elia, and he just giggled the mamas genius title genus, probably had he'd had a heart transplant or something? Like that. But he was filming. And they had this big chair. Stephen phrase on on on alert to take over. But I mean, he was he's he just nothing seemed like it was a big effort to him. And yet he got it down to beautiful film. It's a beautiful film. It's one of my favorite all time films. I mean, it's he's he never broke a sweat in a you work with people, and they're just running around panicking stressing out he was just like sat that having a chill going. Yeah. Let's do it. Again. Just never voice never got beyond about that. And then he, you know, he's really interested in young people as well. So he kept he took me off a lot to go and see Tokes various things he was really lovely amazing man real privileged to get to the into got to know she personnel because it was delightful. Many masterpiece viewers know you from your turn over eight seasons playing detective sergeant and later Detective Inspector Hatheway on Lewis. What did you make of that role? Now that it's in the rear view mirror. I love to love every minute of. I love Donald. I love the I've just my defend may who's my make about just to be phone to her son say, it's like a family, you I'm I'm gone parents to people in that shows children, and we were big family, really really good time. And Kevin is mildly unflappable. So interview head-hunt show is not stressing out than the show tends, not distress out and film and always fed in the reaction to it was so positive that. It was a an treat today. And it would have carried on doing. If I didn't realize shocking the morning, I'd been doing it for more than the culture of my life. And it was time to stop. What made Lewis and Hathaway's dynamics. So unique was it the juxtaposition of Geordies straightforwardness with lofty intellectualism? Yeah. I think so. And also, I mean, Kevin is centrally. Played our relationship out except that I'm I'm not like Hathaway bets. Yeah. There's a lot to play against you know, we were two very contrasting figures and the balance was rice, and he keeps very magnetic actor. He doesn't often get to play those kind of still calm. Grounded said of Mel Gibson Harrison Foti tight contest. But when he does he's very very good. So it, you know, and he's not selfish, and it doesn't really have much of an ego. When it comes to China to to Wayne ac-, you know, be the best thing in he he's, you know, he's just loves having all these people around in working and liking working with him. He's very down to have really great guy. Would you ever consider returning to Oxford to step back into Hatheway shoes? Again, remind mortgage payments. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. You know, I that she I've I've not really you have to ask I deny. I maybe maybe I deny it. I'm kind of enjoying doing other stuff now. So. It would depend on how it fail. It might feel like a step backwards. You like making step backwards particularly say, if if it was a good idea, and it was and it was doing I think I definitely consider it because I love it. But watch the hell out of Hathaway people say that they would have out of Hathaway, but we'll have to wait and see your last album holding patterns came out in two thousand sixteen. What can you tell us about the new album, you're releasing it said? At the moment. It's three EP's. One of them's called a one of them's called g one of them's called. Oh. And sad. Referencing CS Lewis book. And it's it's yeah. It's quite interesting. Interesting bits of my life over the past few years. So it takes off because I mean, essentially, I just write my diary to music. So it's yeah. The last three years of my life sped up into the three sections, which has been Olympian very different and very interesting. So, yeah, it's going to be I think he's trying to get it finished the March, and then I will toy around and sing it plant. But I I like it. It's much more simple. But I like it. And I think it probably true to what I am saying is I can't downs or jump around since leaving appeared on stage in such productions as Tom Stoppard's. The real thing the patriotic soldier ends strangers on a train to name a few. What are you most? Enjoy about stage work is what how you learn. To act. You know, you you count. I not show. You learn how to act on screen. I think you know, you 'cause you're holding audience when you're on stage unit you can tell whether you're doing a good job. And so I'd like to get back to it as often as possible because I don't think you'll really an actor unless you can do you cannot stage you can tell when someone's not spent enough time on stage that doesn't mean very basic screen presences, but you really want acting and acting all of you. It's not just a face Laurence, FOX. Thank you very much. My pleasure. Love is still chief. Thank you. And we are back with daisy Goodwin. Welcome. Hi factor fiction. Victoria's the target of yet another assassination attempt this time on birdcage walk from a man disguised as a woman who's pistol wasn't loaded. Yes. That's correct. I mean, she was constantly being attacked. It's quite extrordinary but fair, but never by anyone who had really the potential to kill us, quite interesting. Most of them, you know, they don't have guns, but they would never laid it. It's a it's a fascinating phenomenon and is this meant to be Edward Hamilton. Yes. And then there was another another person who attacked her very soon after and hit on the head with his cane say, you know, she she she didn't she didn't really seem to have much in the wherever -ffective security factor fiction before Victoria, British monarch hadn't set foot in Ireland since the middle ages. That's completely true. And it's terribly shocking. Isn't it tour is the first moment since the early middle ages he'd been Toyland? So that was a very big big gesture on her part, Victoria travels. To the home of Lord, Palmerston and his wife. Emily was Emily, a beekeeper and was their marriage and open one marriage without secrets as they say in real life. I'm on time about the base, but she was definitely that had to Nathan marriage, and they definitely had had a long liaison while she was married to her. I spend said they were very very grown up marriage. Yes. And he fathered a child with her while she was still married to that husband. Yes. Yes. He did. I heard that Pam was nicknamed cupid because of his many balances with women. Yes. That's absolutely true. Lewd, keep it. Yes. It's amazing. Birdie seems initially to be thriving into the tutelage of the very aptly named mister Cain. I believe he was originally called Mr. Birch in the script was the real life. He was he he he was really cool missed virtually. No, he was fine. Yeah. I remember. I think we changed it in case that was in a descendant to might object. Yes. He did. He didn't missed. Birch was not as cruel as is in the in the show, but Burti did have a very difficult time with his Titas victorious pregnant for a seventh time now with with Arthur does this pregnancy help to mend the rift between Victorian Albert. Well, yes, they they come together. Oversleep, you know, after skirts death is a moment of you know, the fate. They they put aside their differences. But I think the pregnancy puts another strain on on their relationship because every time she has a baby I'll feel she becomes even more on reasonable and say in that plays out through the rest of the series daisy Goodwin. Thank you. So very much. Thank he Jay's. Uncle Leopold is back in action next week on Victoria. And he brings news from a troubled European continent while revolution in turmoil. Shake the foundations of European monarchies the Belgian king tries to remain calm. One of the great joys of it. And the fun of it was was the relationship with Jenner and how she could be quite sort of snap. His with Leopold Holden that he was interfering too much. And and that little sort of grit in their relationship was was great fun to play actor, Alex Jennings will be in the recording booth with us next week here on the podcast as we look at the multiple Alevi award winners knack for playing Royal figures and much more. Besides. Masterpiece studio is hosted by me jas lay Cobb and produced by Nick Anderson, at least by e two is our editor. Suzanne Simpson is our executive producer executive producer of masterpieces, Rebecca Eaton. Sponsors for masterpiece on PBS are Viking cruises and the masterpiece trust.

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"Sodano show on ESPN LA meeting KYW's been lions hanging out. Ben had a sandwich or their immediate. You're saying you're hungry. Shared it with no listening. I got a goal this week is the spend no money on food. I went to the farmer's market, Sundays shut it down. And it's going to ride that off into the sunset. Okay. I this point I need a trash sandwich. Yeah. Go, my, my, my wife can make one of those for years. You made my daughter one for lying to her. So anyway, real quick before we get into the campus. Stands eating the thing out of the carpet. Kevin durant. I'm telling you, man. I've never been more proud of my wife than today because she is definitely good. Most of the time when it comes to these situations. Stories that make me want to have children. Having children is, like, okay, the best way to describe it is. It's super challenging, but also super rewarding. I guess that's right. Mike you your your, your father. You're going to be grandfather couldn't sit up in any better way. Man. Super challenging yet Subaru awarding. So that's just take talents to south beach. Same thing. Yeah. Jing reward. Exactly, by the way. Join us next Thursday June twentieth. The rock and brews, Redondo beach corner of Pacific coast. Highway in palace virtues palace versus boulevard, having NBA draft party. I'll be there with Byron Scott Mason, Ireland will be there before us. So we're they're starting at noon from noon to three, they'll be there. We'll do purgatory live from three to three thirty and then I'll take over Byron, and take you through the entire draft. We'll have chance chance to win opening night. Tickets to Lakers, autograph merchandise and all sorts of goodies. We always come correct with that stuff. So let me grab a couple of calls. You real quick, Jason LA wants talk about the conversation. We were having go ahead. Jason. Very quickly. I wish you all the time. I'm Jackie Burton. I'm not sure my tweets, but anyway, as it relates to the AD trade considering eighties injury history. I mean he's pretty much injury prone at this point. Like, isn't there a price this considered too high given that back? She'll let me ask you a question. Would you consider Lonzo Ingram? Somewhat injury riddled at this point, not in their first two years. I mean. Those playing fifty games basically the first two years each season. No del but I'm saying they're still young clears like Anthony Davis been elite. What seven eight years and he's been hurt. Right. Wouldn't you? But these way, better track record of actually impacting games, and even away, higher ceiling than those guys. No. But my question was just by the way and Anthony Davis, I'm looking at the numbers here. So if you look Anthony Davis last year played fifty six game weird season doesn't count, that was because he wanted to quit the year before that seventy five games the year before that seventy five games the year before that he was injured had had an injury issue, sixty one games of the Uber for that sixty games a little low, but not crazy. And then sixty six before that, and sixty sixty four his rookie when he was nineteen. Right. I would say that's more than what lonzo's put on the floor completely. No. My question is just is that something to consider? No, because he's better than those guys new NBA where a guys leg blew up last night, and people are gonna maxim out for four years. And the guys you're trading our guys who are also injury riddled, when an also want to just say that I think a lot of Laker fans are reluctant to trade, the young guys like that because part of the situation that we're in is because win Phil Jackson was there. We never had young player. So once all that, once everybody went away, and it was just we were stuck over the cap couldn't do anything. And I think that's where a lot of people are coming. No, I get in Ben. Brought that up earlier Dwight Howard stuff. But yeah, I mean this is the risk you take, like if you don't take a risk. What are you gonna do just going to waste? Lebron's career I will say in, in defense of our frontier. You know, the other thing in the new NBA that we talked about earlier is load management. Right. And we talked with praised what Toronto with cli- if the Lakers do this trait. They can't manage anyone's low because they are going to be a thin team, which, again, you guys know where I stand on this. I think it's worth it, regardless because of the upside of having to top five six five or six players team. But that is a very, very precarious situation healthwise both guys in theory you wanted to seventy five games. Right. Like I think you can take seven games awfully guy. I think LeBron's now probably closer to seventy but that's okay. That's fine AD to the said this year was a wash because of the weird stuff with wanting to trade, your before that seventy five games before that seventy five games. And by the way, Brandon Ingram the last two years, fifty to fifty nine. Yes. And Lonzo fifty two games. You know what I mean? Either one of those guys ever seen north of seventy in the hermit shears year he played seventy nine but that was it like then the last two years have not been he's been injury. Riddled part of it as we're learning from this NBA finals so to in year. Seventeen for thirty five year old LeBron's played into June. Every year except this year since I was shaving now build a team around him. That is thin. Say ship for success, if either gonna get hurt they are, but, but that's this. You're too. Today. I mean you run it back. You're still gonna have that same problem. So. I want to get to the D stuff. I mean, we talked about this to kind of start to show kind of the big picture problem with this is just kind of the sports culture, mayor of American culture to. Right. You're right. In japan. They work four day workweeks. Now, they work like twelve hours, but, like I don't know in terms of their famous people athletes musician their athletes work real hard bass player. Building someone up ripping them down and building uniquely American in Europe, though, there's people take plenty of AK shin. They take all of it, right. Like all that stuff happens. But I think that there is this culture of Matiz mo-, particularly in sports. But the other part of the equation is, and this is not getting enough play. Is that for as much as Bob Myers was out there crying yesterday, and guys were super sad and understandably so, again, not saying, all of that, or most of that was genuine, there has to be some of that, that at least maybe the cynic like me, things manufactured out of guilt. Not that they're faking it, but out of guilt because all those stories that came out, right? All those stories about their questioning whether he wants to be in the series or not. And basically questioning his desire, and his manhood, even to some extent, and all those leaks came from the warriors. Yes. And it's the media didn't make that up. I want to push back on something, I've seen you mention sort of. The toughness, the manhood that kind of thing. Yes, we saw the stories and it's it, it's never really been about Durant's toughness, when I say it, I mean, the larger critique and often think when it comes to injuries. It's, it's more about the fact that this is a business and honestly Kevin Durant would have been perfectly within his rights to, to not come back rush back for business reasons that is valid critique. Can we not get to a place -ociety where we are comfortable saying that we're seeing comfortably? It's okay. Kevin for you to sit out because we understand business issue. Well, we understand that you want to have a long career and not exacerbate an injury. And you want to play next year and get paid a lot and be on a championship team. Elsewhere the collective, we'd to live in space where nuance and perspective. We don't live in that world. So I had this conversation with your rival Pablo, Tori the other day we were in Toronto together for game two. And we were talking about just kind of the prism that we're gonna do this time in, and I don't think we're going to reflect back or the next generations gonna reflect back at us in the way, we handled kind of these first ten or twelve years or fifteen years of social media. They're not gonna look back at it finally at the way we've just kind of handled all this stuff and how everything out, it's permeated into all other aspects of society. These kind of reactions that we have. I think there are certain personalities. They're also better quipped for all of this. Like I think Joel Embiid crying again, we had this toughness competition. And I think of how it yet maybe for the different player that could have been could have been construed as like a real negative or would have impacted him in certain kind of way. Joel Embiid made his avatar picture of himself crying. He is of this generation is perfectly suited social media. You can't hurt him. Okay. Kevin. Durant is all too vulnerable vul- noble. I think and, and it really it's it I, I hate to blast of for. He's just has a different personality from Joel Embiid. He's not right. Everyone is going to be able to react all this the same way you talked about it to start during purgatory, right? Like you got you're like super Joan jacked up to be here on the show with us. And somebody sent you a mean message. And of course, you see it and, you know, some aides of radio right? Didn't feel great. No. That doesn't sound like it would feel great Matic. Yeah. A little over the top. I also feel like people are they don't see that, that phrase on Twitter a lot. And it's just like, yeah, I do who's tweeting at you guys. I do. I've got the mute it, and it's not even so much that they're tweeting it at me. I just see I what I do on social media. I follow. People from all sorts of different cities, that are just fans who I think are generally smart, but occasionally will re tweet some stuff or fight with other fans in their town. And I see that were getting that phrase getting tossed around and it's kinda gross in a lot of way. Yeah. Yeah. Like super grosser to when we come back tours Allen talk about Durant. Yeah, I was reminded of last night. And I think is part of now that part of the American quesion of Bill down build up Bush ripped down now build back up again. And we're in that phase and two things about terrain is wanna talk about quick. I wanna run that Jalen rose, Shannon. We actually never earlier about him. 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I wanna get to the Sam darnold like clock ticking things story that the, the jets are the strangest team ever. I almost feel bad for Sam darnold that he landed there. And there's raiders stuff that we talked about earlier, that's always fun because it's just the raiders. I forgot what we I don't even know is anyone remember what he's talking about the last one talking about the human element was play last night, right size. The American people, everything that's wrong with America. When you criticize the little found like it was initially started by Clinton. Yeah. And like every other politician in both parties. Now. Does it where you press your thumb against your index finger big the building people up ripping them down, and building them back up again that's the vicious cycle? Whether you're talking about actors in Hollywood, like Robert Downey, junior, young talent had some drug problems. We bring them down. He's now the face of vendors Disney, we build them back up again. Right. Right. Just a lot of people and two things about Durant that have always stood out to me. And I'm just like, wow, when amazing journey wanna live, did you guys know, big Chucky was no when Kevin Durant was eight years old and started going to the seat pleasant recreational center, and he would spend hours and hours there, because it was far safer and more more structure than going home was for him despite his mom's attempts to raise him. He lived in a tough neighborhood. There was a guy there named big Chucky affectionately, but Charles Craig, who was the basketball coach and really lit a fire. And Kevin to be a great basketball player. We'll Kevin's junior year at Oak Hill academy, the basketball factory in two thousand five Chucky was murdered. And that's where he wears the number thirty five because Chucky was thirty five years old. And he wants his legacy to go around the world, every time you see a Kevin Durant jersey with the number thirty five around the world. That's a tip of the cap to the man who really helped raise him right away. So that tells you to for a young person to go through their formative years. That's, that's tough. I serious stuff. Right. This year. Do you know Clifford Dixon was no Dixon was one of Kevin Durant's best friends had a birthday party dish? Murdered outside his birthday party this year. So you Kevin Durant life. And at the age of sixteen his father figure mentor the person you trust. The most is taken from him, and then at thirty years old, a person in his inner circle, after he seeing the world and back and is made more money than any of us will ever known our life. He still affected by this type of lifestyle and gun violence and all this is human human beings. He's a relationships is real life is not your snake. You're a coward. Let me put up your mean with the players should Beaune in a funny, ha twice social media last week county drain hasn't overcome anything and his basketball journey. Like, LeBron has like Michael Jordan has and Columbine cinema note about these things really actually, let's take a step back and write the grand scheme. I think maybe he was talking about just the context of basketball because in the conscious of just specifically basketball, which is not. That's not normal. We're all human Michael losses father. He's father was murdered. Brian bringing factoring, all that we forget that with these, I get that Ben, and I'm not trying to diminish that. But what I'm trying to tell you and not knowing what Colin said, Colin, but my underst- might m- my first initial reaction with that would be is he's talking about just the trials and tribulation on the basketball floor. Whereas Michael had to go through the pistons. Right. And that kind of stuff and LeBron had to go through the Celtics. Right. But my point is forget, Colin. Yes. That's all they're humans last night. The basketball narrative was put aside by the human element. I agree with you. And I do use a coward and snake, and I think that's what needs to be rethought bit sort of, like, are we going to bring in character critiques, because look, I'm still going to criticize like, Kevin Durant joined the warriors? I do not as a basketball fan didn't like it doesn't make me enjoy basketball, more characters different, and I think last night, you know, thinking about, wow. This guy what he's gone through playing through this injury. Because he loves the team that should make us not rethink again how we feel necessarily about his basketball career, Georgia, what he's overcome or his decision to play on this team in what is meant for the league. But perhaps his relationship to that team itself his character as a player as teammate look, the professional athletes have over a lot of them have overcome tremendous odds. And those are things I think, when we talk about character, and those qualities need to be taken to account. But, but I do think it's fair to criticise basketball decisions about, you know, teams at the play on some of them on the court and overcoming adversity doesn't necessarily factor into that route form the game of life heckling on the court. I'm all for that. I get that Jaylen said is to my point to, and I'd love for you to play that sound because it is part of this narrative that us fans have no somehow constructed around these players. They have to have their legs blow up on TV for us perspective. So here's Jalen set on I take this more. There's a group state property that I loved growing up. And one of the things I think it was host Gaynor sparks it people bring flowers to your funeral. But don't bring you suit when you sick. That's what I'm seeing for Katie right now. Everybody fake acting like they care about katie's best interests when they don't is phony to me, I just said, Friday night, or NBA countdown, that katie's workout did not go well for nobody involved, and then we're Katie got cleared to play people felt like they wanted assessing my character. Oh, you didn't know what she was talking about katie's clear to play. He's out there warm enough in doing dunks. That's adrenaline. It's a rush. He's a professional athlete that people having coffee in the morning or Expresso or sugar is going to be at rush. And then there's a crash and Steven, you can't be out there. Seventy five percent going against ended in the NBA finals, this angel. We got our pound of flesh as need. Area. As people who watch this leak faithfully. We wanted to see Katie give himself to us. We thought it was week that he win joined the goes day words, I didn't like to stay worth go to park. You want to best players to pick teams not join teams but he's go. Stay warriors now it was a quest for him to prove that he could be something bigger than just back the bag raining finals MVP. That's why all year we have said that Katie was leaving. Why? Because he was on the thirst for something that Golden State, couldn't give them we created at narrative, he would never be to do and Golden State, that's always going to be Steph Curry's team. So therefore, he goes there wish championships, but he got leave to still validate himself. So now congratulations world. You got your pound of flesh. He's right that pretty much summed it all up. You know. Shame. Because we miss out on pre sheeting loving a world class Hooper watch him ball out is one of the most beautiful things and all sports. It's two competing ideas there. Right. Which is Jalen himself admitted he doesn't heed wishes he wasn't ongoing stay. That's what makes it so difficult. Right. Because you do want to appreciate the player and everything is capable of and not impugn. His characters drivers competitiveness. Well also, it's okay to have, you know, to not like a super team existing I do think he made a ton of points there in the first one, I think is very important, which is we need to potentially. Rethink the way we talk about athletes in injuries. That is really my biggest takeaway. It's not about Katie the super team his career necessarily, it's this concept of toughness is concept of fighting through injuries comeback. What it means that is very fraught to me. I agree with you. This is what wanted Durant. Kevin's mom tweeted last night, afterwards for all of you question. My son as a man question is hard questions, integrity and question. His love for the game of basketball. You don't know him. He has a heart of a true warrior this to shell passed. God bless you all, and Muniz. Right. It's like. These guys put their life and limb on the line every night, and we do have to have different conversation around injuries and calling people out and stuff like that. Yeah. I think that hopefully someone listens and realizes the next time something happens like it's all cute, and fun and games to Detroit, somebody on social media. But there's a real person on the other side. Right. And we don't factor that stuff in, and that I think that's the problem is social media. Is it takes the? The human element out of it. Right. Because there's no real interaction nuance. There's no no real interaction. There's no personal interaction and life in general has as we've removed personal reaction out of almost everything. No to hate it. When we get asked on shows that we're on. Okay. Should he play through this? Should he put? I don't know. I seen Durant. I was on horn. And we were talking about I was having to talk about. We talked about through the lens of the words needed to which I'm vine they clearly did do obviously, but they would have won without him. But the question of should he play? I don't know. You don't know fans don't know no one has any idea what these guys what their actual hus- I will never criticize an NFL player for not playing through an injury, because I have no idea what he's planning. The guy's not let organizations off the hook because we know the warriors put a lot of pressure on down. And also the big reason why co is in Toronto because the Spurs put a lot of pressure on Koa and Barkley said that today on on. Get up. He was asked who do you blame about, you know with this situation? He was very Frank about it. You guys all morning. If there's somebody to blame that is there is somebody to blame the Golden State Warriors, putting caveat there, listen, that was not. Right. You know, if you go back and look at the last two weeks of the article comes out katie's worst nightmare. The warriors winning without him. Then you come out you read the articles, the warriors really unhappy with Katie wall risks his achilles. They're frustrated with KB now, this man has to be some type of weight. So I'll play into for Katie gin hurt and I don't care what they say about it. Yeah. He just kind of keeps on there. But no. He's right. I think that there is some blame as Mike pointed out in Charles pointed out on, on the organization coming up next we're back into half minutes. I will finally get to the Sam darnold on the clock story. The raiders also on the clock for a different thing. And we've got the Forbes highest paid athlete list menas, buddy, his her best friend forever. Aaron Rodgers is on the list. We'll find out where we're backing two and a half minutes. Data show here on ESPN LA meantime, been lines. Thank you guys for hanging out today, appreciate it. You break it down. So, well, Joyce sometimes out of these crazy theories. And you just like it's business. Oh, yeah. Thanks, sorry. Saying David Aldridge of the Atlantic, of course, longtime NBA reporter, one of the oh, jeez only person are seeing do a box. Score of a game like a baseball box score sat next to the NBA finals. And he does possession by position like you would a baseball game. That's cool ever seen that he's saying that. And there was a report out there today, too. I don't remember who had prior to this, but he's now got obe- marks had three teams. We didn't mention the teams would offer Durant, a full max David alter has these specifics. He's like, basically all the teams in the running for Kevin Durant. The to New York teams Golden State, whoever coastal elite. Yeah. They call still elite teams will offer him a full max like they are ready to do it. No matter what. And you brought up a great point in the break. Right. Which makes no sense. Lingers, not. Yeah. Why not though, what what's the worst? You can say no. Yes. In which case, Hugh, you throwing this year next year to the wayside, you're saying, you're not gonna compete. Right. But if you're training for Anthony Davis, you still got aunt that you can still trade for Anthony Davis. Kevin Durant work for eighty and signed k, yeah. Right. And you could sign K D. I mean they'd have to free up more space at the re-signed eighty they'd say they'd have to free up about twelve million dollars in space. So then into Quincy twenty you have in LeBron three of now into a pipedream. It is a dream, but all right. All right. I don't think it's going to happen because first of all, they'd have to literally just dissolve themselves of everyone other than LeBron. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't Katie eighty LeBron and the ram by they'd put him out on the court Kirk. We'll just jump back in right? Exactly. So there's that real quick Sam darnold. US's zone Joe Douglas is the new general manager of the New York Jets Meena. Yes. Yes. Just okay. Douglas said Tuesday that it's really exciting that twenty two year old Sam darnold was one of the reasons that attracted into the jets job, basically said that they're on their own kind of personal clock is building around. A young quarterback. There's a sense of urgency. We did that in Philadelphia knowing we had a young quarterback and wanted to put the pieces around him. I think there's going to be the same urgency anywhere but especially here with a young quarterback like Sam look teams. Have figured this out, right? You got a guy on rookie contract. You gotta try to make this thing work as quickly as possible. And he's a guy that certainly has the skill set to kind of make this thing work. Like, how do you see how did you see Sam darnold a rookie? And where do you think he needs to progress? I'm Donald fan. Okay. I liked him coming out of the draft and liked what I saw from him at the end of the season, you saw a much more accurate decisive quarterback. I think towards the end of his rookie year his decision making which at times been up and down improved. So if I'm the jets, I'm pretty pleased with what you got from him. And he's, he's people that don't heal peer people know this super mobile throws on the run. Really? Well, we saw some really fantastic to us on the run at the end of last year in December, but they didn't. Have that many pieces around him. They still are building around him, especially in terms of weapons. They had Jamison Crowder, who I liked as sort of an outlet for him. In obviously Levy on bell is going to assist a lot not just as a runner, but also Cusco excluding not happy about him being paid very much. They're, they're working it out, by the way, is the most annoying coach. And I don't say that just because he coached the team, I grew up rooting for I feel like he wants to be Bill. But I'll check without any of the reasons that develop check is Bill Belichick guys in the AFC as an earned anything to be calling any of these shots like. It's crazy to me. Yeah, I know. That's always interesting thing because Peyton Manning liked him like it goes a long way in the NFL, today's no seen him, more and more coaches calling their shots. I mean, in Houston, the GM, fired people believe that has something to do with the coach, their Bill, Brian getting what he wants. He wants to be patriots south. But look, this is the right you wanna hear this. You want to hear that the team is. Hoping to maximize their rookie contract of the quarterback because that's how successful teams the NFL built these days it's almost like the judge just woke up went o clock. Okay. What should we do here? No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Businesses usual. Yes. No. They had no plan to make a competitive team in this window with him darnold. And now they're trying to pick up the pieces in classic dysfunctional New York Jets. It's the best. They're the best like they that clock that train is always on time. You know what I'm saying? The jets train, which is that they are going to have a level of dysfunction. There was a story today on this nation about crazy, like a decade later. It was like a look back at what went wrong with the Mark Sanchez jets. They went to back to back titles. And I, I didn't I don't want to be the guy who trolls another media outlet. So I literally wanted to quote to though, well, they're the jets that's really when there's really no nothing go back and read keeshonds book throw me the damn ball. I read it last year. Cover to cover. Imagine the number one pick in the draft. Imagine this year Kyla Murray is terrible year. And then he writes a tell all book, and how they're awful. That would never have twenty nineteen Shelley Smith goes writing. It's fast. Sending read real quick. It is a fascinating read, but. Raiders are hard knocks. Yes. Is that must watch? Like I haven't watched hard knocks like religiously in a while. It's been a number of years. We talked about, as the Bengals basically are you a hard knocks watcher, like religious, watcher, meaning I am last season was excellent in Cleveland and enough date is in Tonio Brown. Raiders wide receiver tweeded. It's a hard nut. Life for us. And then get your popcorn ready. Oh, this great. Yeah. Gruden being grooten on TV. Does that mean like not a mass singer anymore? Or is he still amassing? Got a cellphone just like you. I like seeing Gruden on TV. I am going to watch our knocks this year because of the rain, we got about ninety seconds here. I wanna do this Forbes list of the highest paid athletes, and I guess this includes endorsements and all that stuff. Don't you give me some music here? So we can just roll out with it. Who is the highest paid athlete in the world? Take guests Renaldo number two on the list. Messy Tim out for number one three would be named are four is a boxer take a guess the Mayweather TD canal Alvarez to sign that new deal with zone v a tennis player. Federal federal six your quarterback. Russell Wilson six highest paid athlete in the world right now. Oh how these things are hawks number seven your BFF Aaron Rodgers. Lebron James at eight Steph curry at nine Kevin Durant at ten that is the top ten of the Forbes highest paid athlete list now, Forbes calculates, like endorsements. You'll. List Gilbert known giver was on the show weeks ago to catch them. Yes, it was so bad that it was good. Yes, that's the way I look at it, but now for any reason, other than that's Gilbert arena. I saw that. But to me, that's great radio. So I enjoy actually really enjoyed having you mean and Ben thank you guys for hanging out, George good job fund. She and my shut out to the women dialer g nothing dollars. Angels. Thailand. We gotta go. 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Hour 2: Rodgers Doesn't Need Help

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Hour 2: Rodgers Doesn't Need Help

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Because alex cora after all didn't spend years with the dodgers it was actually first. Dodger gotta had a cell phone like one of my first guy so yeah so like i would like to think he wasn't mixed up in a cheating scandal that cheated the dodgers out of the world series. Ooh and get his brother good point. They were both pretty good players. I thought joey is a little better. Does best show is more utility guy. Yeah it was He could play second short. We hit a little better. I don't remember. I gotta look it up and i think joey hit a little bit about. I don't know whatever they were both good players. They weren't spectacular but they were good players and and It's unfortunate that alexkor had to cheat the yankees in two thousand seventeen. Okay now aaron rodgers roj went deeper into his career than any player ever without throwing a first round pick and when he finally did i forgot who it was but it wasn't like hey the the packers drafted this in the first round and he turned out to be great now. It wasn't even like that. It was like they had. I forgot who it was all right but it was like a guy who's been around the league and now he's on the packers and they never get him any first round help at receiver and by the way. If they're not doing that great if you if you draft and develop well enough we had donald driver on. I take today and that was in the second round fine. If you drafted developed well enough davante adams whatever you know that you don't have to spend draft like high up first round draft picks on receiving targets for aaron rodgers. Great so you must have an awesome defense right. You must have a great defense. An act of all those draft picks are going to the defense your best draft pick your highest draft pick. Your first round draft went to your backup to replace aaron rodgers and by the way if the packers don't win if they don't get out of the nfc this year the packers management's fault because you let's put it this way jordan love in order for this to be the right call for the packers jordan. Love has to make the hall of fame. How's that for pressure if you win. Thirteen games and you're in the nfc championship game. Had you have an agent quarterback who you're can he get back to his prime form which which he is right now and you don't and you don't have a defense and you spend your and he's not doing it any first round picks and you spend your first round pick on his replacement instead of on nydia an impact defender. That can get you over the top well in that case that quarterback better go to the hall of fame like when they drafted brett farve replacement aaron rodgers. He's going to the hall of fame. That's the packers anyway star. Whoever it is it's going to be like this guy's gonna be our quarterback for fifteen years and he's going to be great he's gonna win the super bowl right okay. I guess that's jordan love now when they just couldn't pass them up. The packers defense is not good and rodgers. Hasn't enough offensive weapons. It's not like he doesn't have anyone. Davante adams is very very good. Aaron jones is good. You could use a guy on the other side of davante adams who could really play aaron rodgers. Do we have that sound. Raj at the post game presser. Yeah did he feel bad for the niners missing so many so many guys. They're all banged up. No one's feeling sorry for anybody in this league and that's the way it goes feeling sorry for us our injuries and you know you just have to be have to be a next man mentality. Obviously i'd number of young guys play. We had number young is play. So that's the nfl in twenty twenty Obviously they've got hit with injury Bog life to allow more than usually see but Instill still football still feels. Great to win is going to be six to the halfway point person division by the way. He's lucky that it's the niners without jimmy g. as a team. That can't win without their quarterback. He doesn't have back to back yari back yet. Backyard is a kind of guy who it's hard to remember when i go back to my yankees roj. The yankees signed brian. Mccann remember the catcher from the from the braves. And i don't know going back ten years. Whatever it was. And i remember thinking if mccann winds like what what the yankees make assigning like that. They're betting mccann's gonna wind up in the hall of fame which didn't turn out. He was about halfway through a hall of fame catcher career. And it was more like years ago when the angels signed lance parrish. It turns out now. He wasn't actually the second half of the career didn't match the first happens with catchers they get worn down. The back is kind of reminds me of a guy like that like backyard. Maybe halfway through a hall of fame career it depends how the back nine matches the front because he's an absolute elite tackle when he's healthy and it's like if you're going to miss them good to miss him against this niners team eight say. Espn dan from florida. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio the to you. What will it take for aaron to be considered better than brett. Farve if i may. Brett farve has seventy nine thousand career passing yards. Errands already. Got forty six thousand. Five hundred and eight touchdown passes. Aaron has one hundred eighty nine. I believe to his. I'm sorry Three hundred eighty one. I think was named or will it just simply take a second super bowl title in greenback. What do you think aaron rodgers. Already better bet and everyone knows it. Brett farve on his birthday was never as good as an rogers on the all time list. Rogers ahead of far already. Rogers look far had special army talent. It's like it was the reason. I like mahomes. Better than rogers is a little bigger and sturdier. But he's also. His arm is a little more electric. It's not far thread. The needle is an amazing arm but there was something a little different about watching farve like the one thing had durability over rogers and far at rogers better than for everything else every single thing else. Rogers far far had durability far. Had a different kind of would you watched it. There was something different. That's what mahomes has to but rodgers better than farve. He's a much smarter quarterback far more mobile and he's a more accurate. He's better he's better now. Each have a super bowl. Farve has the durability thing golfer. But i think when we say i think we're comparing all time greats provided you sustain your prime for a solid amount of time. We're really comparing peak to peak. Sometimes the guy's career accomplishments just overcome everything. Tom brady has six super bowl rings. Been to nine. He wants six so basically every other year tom. Brady's in the super bowl and two out of three of those years. He's winning the super bowl so even if i've seen guys better at their peak he's the goat far because of the durability the iron man streak i give it to him and he had something about him guys like playing with them. The drawings play up in the dirt and all that roger better than he is. I don't think anyone really thinks. Farve is as good as rogers stephen from los angeles. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio doing a really nice talking to you again. Just going back to the mvp there quite a bit from seahawks says number one real son. Can you tell us the audience for the last ten years which year which player robbed them of the mvp be. The mvp is to thing year. Being good at what you're doing it's the one year of being the best. i agree. He's never been no no. I agree he hasn't been robbed. What's interesting is sometimes people just kind of get robbed by circumstance. So for example. I don't think russell wilson in any one season would have been my mvp but if you said over the last five years. Who's the most valuable quarterback russell wilson. So it's kind of. It's a shame that in a way like why is it arbitrarily this year. That's an mvp right over that amount of time. They've been guys better but over half a decade. He's been the best but never the best than anyone season. I agree with you. Oh we weren't sharp on the phone right now from sharp football analysis dot com warrant sharp. Are you there on the shell. Pennzoil line there. You go excellent so listen while we're on the topic who's the mvp so far this season. I think it's russ but again. I don't have a strong yet. Because i think it's going to come down to who ends up willing their team to finish line of getting first round bye in the nfc. Aaron rodgers certainly has a case right now. I think russell wilson is a very good case right now as well and ultimately it's going to be most of these awards go to the team that earns out first round by both. These teams are vying for one first round by So i think it's gonna come down to the wire truly will warrant. I think mahomes is the mvp twenty one touchdowns one interception. He has the most adjusted yards per attempt. He has the highest. Pe are his team is a one loss team. Why is it homes. Mvp well to me. At least what we've seen right now. This season is achieved relied a lot. More on the ground game and hazard required homes to deliver the brilliant that were typically accustomed to seeing from him. I mean when you have a guy is good as patrick mahomes. You could argue that every single season he could be the nbs. I do how talented of how talented he is. And you won't really get that many cases of massive pushback but from what i've seen twenty eighteen twenty nineteen and then twenty twenty. This offense is just not required him to do nearly as much. He hasn't had to carry as much on his shoulders. He hasn't been as valuable to his team this year as he's been in years past where he had to do most of the carrying their defense playing really well. The run game is going really well and the team is calling plays a lot differently. As a result of that and saving him for what i think is their true goal again which is to repeat a super bowl champs. I will not say that if this team does not get a if this team gets the first round by you know homes absolutely in the discussion for mvp. But if you're asking me to pick one guy who i think is doing the most. I'm looking at seattle's aesthetic defense. And i'm looking at what russell wilson has done. Statistically and how much better this team is than years past and it's because they're letting us pass the ball more and he's the one who's carrying this team and so. I've got to give it to him at this moment in time. Warren i have. Are you familiar with casey joiners. Work the football scientists. A little bit. So as casey had him on the show like new york and la for years and he was talking about. How and this seems counter. Intuitive but i wanna get you to weigh. In on this that in fact the chiefs want to avoid shootouts. That they've record and shoot outs. While it's a winning record is pedestrian compared to their record and other games which is why he gets a lot of carries. if they're gonna give them the run might as well take it right. And so i get what you're saying about russ's being asked to win shootouts. Which he's doing the only loss he has is a game that hinged on a single play in overtime to the second place team otherwise. He's won all these shoot outs and has won every other game. But i'm interested. To get your take on casey joyner's take about the chiefs in shootouts. Why they do you agree that they should avoid shootouts. And so y. I mean every every team wants to go into a game Trying to prevent the other team from scoring a lotta points so if the goal is to lower the other teams ability to score points. You will certainly be able to do that when you're on. Offense has the football. I think the way that this team is structuring things from an offensive perspective. They used which we discussed this earlier. In the season we didn't discuss it before the season this mindset and this approach that with the with literally with the exception of the baltimore ravens game. This is a team that said we know. Our guys aren't quite one hundred percent right. We don't want tyreek hill running. Twenty go routes down the field week one against the houston texans with no preseason games. We want to eat these guys into it. We need them healthy by the end of the season for the stretch run. And so we're just going to rely a little bit more on the ground game. I think the chiefs are just playing to the defenses. that they're facing they. They've played the chiefs. The number one easiest schedule of opposing run defenses on the season and so a smart coach. Like if i'm advising them. I'm saying this team stinks. Defending the run. Let's run the football a little bit more the running the football just because they don't think patrick mahomes can score enough points to win in the shootout running the football because they know a keeps our offense fresh and healthy especially our skill positions that we're going to need to win in the playoffs as well as their quarterback. We don't those guys getting burned out over this weird offseason that we've been dealing with. But this is quickest path to victory because the teams can't defend the runway while interesting casey's was not that mahomes can't win shoot outs. He can he usually does that. Actually gives the other team a chance. And if they're going to give them the run and they just gonna take it now. The other team doesn't even have a chance. Especially because mahomes is the quarterback if you need them to throw the ball antonio brown's impact on the on the bucks saints game right on the one hand i think about davante adams coming back off injury and rodgers kind of trying to force him. The ball and the bucks defense took advantage of that on the other. Hand the saints defense has been underperforming this year. But the broaden quantum alexander. I think that's a good player. But i'd like to know if in fact he is. I like it seems to me. He is but i'm sure you know better than i. And what you think. Antonio brown's impact beyond the bucks right away. Well i've heard different perspectives here. I've heard some people say and theorized that they're gonna easy man and their goal is just to have them incorporate fully into this offense by the end of the season. But i'm looking at this from a perspective. And we'll see i. I mean. I'm not on the inside there to know for a fact but if you look at antonio brown it's not like we're sticking antonio brown on the la chargers with justin herbert a rookie quarterback and we're trying to figure out how he's going to work with this guy for the first time and really throw off the pattern. All these other stud wide receivers. They have like key. Now and mike williams. We're talking about a team in the bucks that you and i both saw that game on monday night were targeted. A lot for the tampa. Bay buccaneers. some of these guys. We didn't even know. What did you guys have one reception before this that game and he was the most targeted player on the bucks. They're wide receiver. Health is not ideal. They're going to i think. Get chris godwin back but he's dealing with a broken finger. That's not great when you're a wide receiver trying to catch balls from tom brady but brady has had experience working with ab. Before and bruce arians has had experience calling plays with ab before as well because they worked together in pittsburgh. So i think it's something. Where if they chose they could actually incorporate in and give them eight to ten targets in this game. I think one of the things that we asked to be aware of in this game. That's very interesting. Is the wind speed. We talked a lot about that heading into last week's games because a lot of the games in the northeast we're dealing with a lot of wind. Well is this game on sunday night in tampa. I'm seeing right now. We'll see by gametime. Twenty seven to twenty nine mile per hour winds gusting mid to upper thirties user. Situations like drew brees dealt with in last week's game and drew brees when he played in chicago and they want and overtime but in that game drew. Brees had the lowest average depth of target of any quarterback in the nfl. Last week it was a lot of short passes that were then turned into bigger gains and made his yardage totals a little. Bit more respectable. This green bay. I sorry this tampa bay defence is very good at rallying to the ball to shut down some of these shorter passes. We saw the way that the giants were moving the ball a little bit with stuff over the top to attack the secondary down. The field more drew brees was averaging. I think only like four point nine air yards per target. So very close. To the line of scrimmage. I don't know how well that's going to work here. But that wind will certainly factor in you know that bruce arians for whatever reason has one of the highest run rates on first down in the first half of games. The team is terrible doing so winds make him want to run the football even more a lot of x. doctors with this game i think it's gonna be fascinating. That is that's interesting stuff. I think getting michael thomas and emmanuel sanders back though might help that depth of target. A little bit can camped warren. They want me to rap. But i'm dying to know to me. I look at camp seasons. Statistically been bad but it's not for a goal line stand play made by bobby wagner one of the best in the business if cam punches that bowl in and if he doesn't fumble against the bills the narrative around the patriots and cameras very different there. Four and three with wins against the dolphins the raiders the bills and the seahawks but instead because those two plays they're two and five and cam newton's career is over can camp turn this season around at least for himself. I think it will possible down the stretch. I think that there's going to be opportunities for him. I would like to see it sooner rather than later. But we can't avoid the discussion. Port that cohen sometimes impacts guys for weeks afterwards breathing and some of their other things. That's going on with them. So we actually saw trent brown. He's feeling for the oakland raiders. For the las vegas raiders dealing with covert after-effects. This week in practice. It's actually impacting his ability to be available right now And so some of these guys like a finely tuned athlete. You don't know how it's gonna affect different guys. I think over the course of the season three or four weeks down the road once. It's maybe out of the system a little bit more is by dr. Maybe he starts to look a little bit better. We have to also keep in mind. He's working with a lot of receivers. That wouldn't be starting on any other team. So i don't know that we can like bury him and say his career is over because of what he's done for these few weeks in new england with Backup wide receivers. All over the place in contracting kobe We can't do that. I still. He's got more juice in the tank. And i hope that we see warren. What do you want to plug before you get out of here Sharp football analysis for crushing the season having a great year seventy percent on totals and Definitely looking forward to this week's games. I i love a couple of things on the card this week and one of them. Nobody else likes but me. People are betting the under in this raiders chargers game. I like the over in that one. There is warren sharp sharp football analysis. Check it out. Best in the business. Thanks a million has always worn base back the nba. Is gifting us an early christmas present but is it too soon too. So is it too. So why can't believe everything on social media these days you can believe it's possible to start a new life as an it pro and louis four months from the comfort of your own home and listen to this. 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Watson works to learn more. The max kellerman show on espn radio. Espn news the espn app sirius. Xm channel eighty and you're smart speaker. Eighty eight say. Espn eight seven nine. Three seven seven six here about cannella in golden boy talk about it on unless take the max. Kellerman show presented by progressive insurance. Davante adams was in the last night with ten receptions for one hundred seventy three yards. Of course. I didn't have in my draft kings team because raj doesn't include thursday games just to cheat me out of draft kings wins. Get in the zone brought to you by autozone get in the zone autozone. Every game counts raj. All the thursday games too. But you see what would have happened. Steve mason would have been our friend. Steve mason wouldn't have been able to play because he's vacationing arizona and he can't play out there so he is that right. Yeah so he doesn't get back till tomorrow so he's going to get his money. You can't zona. Apparently that's what. He said he could lawyers lineup. That's what he was. Let me know on monday. So in vegas i will go to vegas. I couldn't get my life did. But that's why arizona we need every ten bucks we can give you get close to that sixty dollars. We're gonna win. That's important at ten dollars. Steve is vital to our love windows. Ten bucks nb reps npa of the players association of the nba. You're talking about sorry approves december twenty second date for the seventy two game regular season so there it is the nba and the national basketball players association. Now finish up financial terms on an amended collective bargaining agreement which will take it which will take into next week sources say the trade moratorium is expected to be lifted. Shortly prior to november the november eighteenth draft was great. Nba's about seventy two seventy two games. Same reason they play those extra seven eight games in the bubble on the regular season. That's where the local tv contracts kick in and the is getting all their money and they're getting no positive covid cases and crowning champions. Dr pepper colin line. Eight hundred eighty eight say. Espn eight eight eight seven nine. Three seven seven. Six mister pleasant from houston. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio yes. I you'd going back. Go ahead mr plow hauling. I'm calling about my houston texas right. I'm donald fan. I know they in search with gm and my guy for the job. One of your colleagues louis riddick. Good choice but love Louis riddick down here to get this team back in order. I wanted louis riddick. I want louis riddick visit of the giants. Here's the main thing. An executive like brian when you have someone at the top of your organization an executive making decisions. You can't give them enough time to ruin you. You gotta get the new guy in there pronto. Trying to remember remind myself what this reminds me of anything else going on in the world. That reminds me this right now. Terrible executive ruining everything you gotta get a new guy in anyway. I would say be enemy. I'm unsure louis riddick. Great choice. But i want to save him for my football giants eric. The enemy like you know. It seems to be working out for patrick mahomes and see what happens to shawn watson. The problem with bill. O'brien is he. That was the dumbest trade. You trade deondraye hopkins for for a couple not that you take that back a bad contract and david johnson. You don't even get draft compensation for the johnson contract. And you don't get enough draft compensation period and you break up watson and hopkins and you give him to cuyler murray. Who had be hot. If i was to shawn watson over by the way news for max kellerman asia. That was mister pleasant. He just hit us up on the dr pepper. Call in line about my colleague louis riddick. Espn mister monday night. Football as gm candidate for the houston. Texans i would say that's a very good choice at the giants and the enemy is a guy who should be head coach somewhere charles from virginia. You're on the max kellerman show go what's going on back. I'll make this quick. I have a problem with the aaron rodgers. Thing you all give him all kinds of credit when he does great things and he does do great things but time he played some real competition and doesn't do well he needs help. I'm trying to figure out. Which one are we going to go with the bad well. He's a bad man but football's not a one man's sport like more than any other sport. You need a team. And aaron rodgers is not exposed against good teams his touchdown to interception where he first of all. He's super bowl. He's one lots of playoff games. He's done it with miraculous. Throws i remember ryan hollins the former basketball player now. He's a broadcaster. Brian hollands was at my place in. La we're watching the the packers and the cardinals was it. It was a playoff game. I'm forgetting already who they were. Playing and aaron rodgers makes a spectacular throw and they call it back. And i remember saying to ryan. How's let's see him do it again. Okay you're the baddest man on the planet. Let's do it again. He did it again. Like rodgers has done that so many times in his career. You can't question whether he can do it. Against greek defense isn't impossible situations. Yes yes check check check but when he faces the best teams certain things exposed about the packers. Not about rogers about the packers. They're thin at receiver after davante adams in terms of really talented guys. They don't have a defense. Yeah roj wasn't that game against the cowboys can make that amazing third or gets cowboys. Because he's killed every which way employer man. He's no no now. He did. Kill the cowboys. That's a different game. Dak played very well in that game and he brought the cowboys back from the dead. And if it wasn't for aaron rodgers just being on another level and he made a play just not capable of making. That won the game for the packers yes. He also did that against the cowboys team. But i'm pretty sure it was against arizona five years ago six years ago. Something like that. Rogers has done things. The only guy. I've seen do the things that rogers has done consistently as mahomes to me of everyone. I've ever eyeballed. Those guys are in their own category canal. Oh finally got his wish guys last take next. Starting monday you can stream the max kellerman show daily on espn plus with espn. Plus you can stream. The dan lebatardshow was god's you can stream greeny you can stream shinhan golick junior and you also get live. Sports exclusive originals and more sign up now at espn plus dot com as always. You can hear all of us on espn radio stations. All across the country sirius. Xm and the espn app. Last take is next max. Kellerman sheffield podcasts. Kellerman show espn radio. Espn news the espn app. Siriusxm channel eighty and under smart speaker. Eighty eight say espn seventy nine. Three seven hundred six max. Kellerman shows presented by progressive insurance small business protection. Just got easier with more than thirty coverage options available aggressive. Has you covered more at progressivecommercial dot com. You heard i take good to hear your voice. I take out your throwing down here matches last zone. The streaming service which was you know launched a couple of years ago twenty bucks a month. I subscribed to it. It was you know yet fights. They started spending an enormous amount of money of boxing. Like when i was at. Hbo hbo monopolized worldwide boxing. Right like the best fighters in the world out of the pound for pound best fighter. Let's say seven or eight of them would fight on. Hbo and they did it with the budget around. Eighty million dollars a year and no one else came close showtime at spent twenty or thirty. Espn at the time. was betting. Eighty two to five million a couple of their outlets like that and then sky sports would spend some maybe total investment in the western hemisphere was one hundred fifty million for tv. Right something like that then. Boxing money exploded. Because hbo started getting out of the game and other outlets saw a number we can get subscribers. It's relatively cheap compared to the other sports to produce so espn jumping top rank. Ninety million a year of fox and showtime jumping with fifty million a year a pop does zone built their streaming service on boxing they spend according to my calculations until recently until the pandemic they were starting to approach like a quarter billion a year. On right's fees for boxing dwarfing. Everyone else they. The two biggest stars in the sport at time. Anthony joshua cannella alvarez well. The biggest star at heavyweight at this moment is tyson fury. He's clearly the best heavyweight and anthony joshua got knocked out by andy ruis and then beat released. Rematch joshua's underrated fighter at this point. But maybe his stars a little diminished compared to where it was when zone signed an canelo alvarez who the guaranteed thirty five million the fight for but said he had to fight premium opponents. Were saying no matter who they were bringing disown us not a premium opponents not a premium opponent and so was beef at a lawsuit and looks like canal. Oh and golden boy in zona part ways looks like canal is going to be a free agent. Wonder where he's heading. Maybe you could remain a free agent fight. Wherever he wants not bad move true. We'd love to have him at espn. I mean i'd love to see him on espn. I like to see period. Dr pepper colon. Line eight eight say. Espn eight seven nine. Three seven seven six Who do i take here. who do i take. Brendan from nashville. You're on the max kellerman show. Espn radio max. I want to ask you about reports of incident. Yang is apparently. He's prepared to sign a long term deal at miami. You think he's a good fit or is he a better fit at a golden state. Or should he just stay. Put milwaukee they put milwaukee because they blew it milwaukee i it's like robert deniro when stallone came to him and cop land but he came back and deniro said you blow it. I used to have that my soundboard roj back in a. A member you blew it your walkie those cheap owners in milwaukee it's three dues their investment guys. They played milwaukee cheap. If you're listening to me in milwaukee the owners played you cheap. They played you cheap. Malcolm brogdon was to the let them leave. Why is that important. Not only need a crime partner the history of the nba. Is that if you're a big. You need another dude. Who's not a big in his just as good as you if you want to win a championship shack needed. Kobe and dwayne wade in different cities. Penny in his prime won't even good enough. Need some a better than penny if you're shack championship. 'cause those magic teams were loaded. Horace grant nick anderson. All those data scott kareem never won a championship with that oscar. Robertson or magic. Johnson kareem abdul-jabbar. No big need another guy. Who's not a big just as good as them and john is really big and he doesn't have that so why is malcolm brogdon insignificant. Well that's not that guy nice player but not that guy. Because if you want trade for that guy. If you're milwaukee you're not gonna sign them just guys like that don't sign in milwaukee matchup salaries and now because you don't have malcolm brogdon remember players already on your team. Their contracts could be grandfathered in so you can exceed the cap but if they're not already on your team you can't exceed the cap to bring them in so if they're already on your team pay them keep them around as talent and tradable assets which would have been brogden and you could matched up his salary with some other stars salary and throwing some stuff together. Maybe wound up with bradley beal or someone like that to bring in can't do it now. Not without losing middleton or someone like that and honest plus you'll need a guy like middleton if they want to actually try to win a championship no jaanus gotta bounce. Max we're having to the concept. This was about the caller you give hogged up all the oxygen for this segment or one caller with hearing your voice. well. I'm looking at the justin jefferson or clyde which franchise blows it up dallas or houston. What are the pats do cam. Vikings are they going to get hot. I don't wanna talk about the vikings con the niners elite receiver. The question with the niners is do they. Keep jimmy g. blended versus notre dame tomorrow good. Nfl sunday max. Kellerman thanks for listening to the max kellerman show make sure you subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show. Live weekdays at two pm eastern on. Espn radio espn news. Or wherever you stream your audience.

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1083. Woman With Eating Disorder Saved By Dog

"Celebrating. The connection with our pets, this animal radio featuring veterinarian, Dr Debbie White, groomer Joy Villani news director, Lorie Brooks, and now from the Red Barn Studios here your hosts, how Abrahams and Judy Francis. Since you're new honor due to my leftist Judy. Francis. To My right over there is Lorie brooks straight ahead. We have dogfather. Joey. Villani, and just in the break room right now is Dr Debbie working working her way into answer your questions. You hear me now and Robert Similar just around the corner with five things. Every dog owner must have a hundred things I'm sure I've got those covered I was just GonNa say that Judy and I moved not too long ago and I almost I always WanNa just one storage cabinet for all Steph or all Cat Steph and I'm finding it I'm really needing about six. See. I'm trying to think of the five things that I would need and. Patients would be one. I said some sense of humor certain. Big Bed. Yeah, that's another thing. But Robert Semo, we'll have his list coming up in just a few minutes. We're also going to have a guest on today a young lady who's from Bolivia this is one of those eating disorders. I have an eating disorder I e everything lots of it. I'm hungry all the time but she had believe me which is pretty serious. What cured her dogs? Wow. She'll tell her story coming up in just a couple of minutes What do you got coming up Laurie? Well, there are tons of reasons why we should do the best thing for our pet apparently people who have pet goldfish. Are Dumping Them In rivers and lakes I've heard. That's it's yeah. It is and there are man big problems that result and we'll tell you all about that in just a little bit. It is Labor Day weekend. So hopefully you're out and about enjoying yourself with your pets along with animal radio I know Joey Villani is you're looking good for Labor Day weekend groom yourself or do you have someone else grew I'm Know I have someone else grew me Oh yes. I grew myself. We're going to talk about how nutrition could actually affect your dog's coat or cat from matting and and shedding, and you know all that good stuff. You mean like what they eat can make a big difference for their coat. Completely we dogs end have so many skin issues and problems and a lot of them are food allergies, but they're feeding him. Kibbles and bits. Yep. Well, listen you know some pets. It's genetics of fine the and they could do fine on it because you'll have people out there dog eats cables and Bill mcadoo kibbles and bits and the and everything is just fine and you know it's it's like people human genetics but eventually that runs out and all of a sudden the dog that has bad coton rotten teeth in bed skin and broken. It just bothers me that people don't make the connection. Okay. With Joey. Villani. Just a couple minutes. Let's go to the phones for your calls I emily. How. Are You doing today? What are you doing? Okay. Where're you calling from? I'm calling from Wisconsin Wisconsin I'm looking down our list of radio stations here. I don't see anything in Wisconsin Hurry listening actually I heard your radio actually on a podcast. Oh. Okay. So how can we help you? I've talked to Debbie enjoy Villani here for you. Okay well, I have a kit while she's not she's not kidding a cat is eight years old and We rescued her from the animal shelter when she was a kitten and I, call her money base because by the time she was year old crossing a thousand dollars. So. We Love Love Life. Oliver. Anyway trees ago she was diagnosed with Ernest Powell and it took a lot to figure this out. Hence money bakes so. Anyway So. Anyway, she was can I say the name of the Cat Foods brand name? Sure. Sure. Okay. So they put her on the Royal Team in GI response. Cat, food and then she was still having some the loose stools and Yuka see still might not. So then they put her on the prednisone launch she was on point four miles every other day and that cleared everything up thank started farming up and life is good again. Okay. Wow. Though it seems like she's having the exact opposite problem as he about three weeks ago I noticed that she was not having bowel movement every day and when she did have on there just a round dark little marbles. So I did take her to the vet and He was able to feel her belly and he could feel some hard stool and her bowel and So He's You know a good drinker but he suggested tried some wet cat food and so that's what I've been doing. This using a regular v FRISKIES. The suspect she enjoys she's Having, bowel movements daily now but they're still not normal. There's just real hard and round, and so I guess my question to you I don't know where to go from county is a fiber response cat food really necessary or do you think gradually I'll get her back to to the regular what she's doing before this happened she was just on the prima wine you know cat food. And Whatnot Think I can go back to a regular cat food I'm just thinking that the famous too much for her. Okay. Did we get a biopsy to diagnose this? No. So the did a testing by like blood and rays that kind of steps Yeah. We tested a lot of blood that we tested a lot of WHO. We did antibiotics prebiotics looking a lot pancreatic enzymes. So yeah, there was no actual biopsy. It was just okay. Tried a lot of different things. Okay, 'cause that's an important thing. When we talk about what treatment methods we're gonNA use is to really confirm that we have inflammatory bowel disease that can only be done by. Intestinal biopsy. So we're presuming we have inflammatory bowel disease based on symptoms and response to therapy so. Sometimes I'll go back and say, okay, if the symptoms are changing let's make sure we aren't missing something else and with a cat with constipation especially, if she'd been prone to diarrhea, I do like to make sure we don't have some major changes in the couple of things that can contribute to constipation in any cats irregardless of inflammatory bowel disease is arthritis and it can also be things that dehydrate a cat so low. Grade Kidney Disease things like diabetes dehydration. So those things are important. So if they haven't recently done some general bloodwork and x rays of the lower back area do like to do that because sometimes will be surprised in finicky that needs to be on some pain medication for arthritis and that can be something that will stop them from posturing to defecate in a normal time fashion and normal manner. So that's one thing to look at. But also just to make sure that we don't have any condition that's contributing towards dehydration because the coal in his where all of the. The body is a hydration is really can be sucked away. So if we have slow colon transit, it means we're looking more water back from the stool and hence make it harder to pass those dry stool. So that's something to just I would encourage you to make sure you've evaluated with your veterinarian as closely as we can some post. So as far as diet there are I do feel that there are a lot of cats that controlled better with A. Low Protein or I'm sorry. hydrolysed diets like a hypoallergenic diet. There are some that do better with. Low fiber diets or high fiber diets it really depends on the cat but I will tell you that is unlikely that a general food over the counter is going to be a good choice for a cat with inflammatory bowel disease because we need to have some kind of steps to help to control that inflammation in the intestinal tract, and that's what those diets are geared towards. So the limited ingredient diets like kangaroo based i-it's or the rabbit based diets. Those are ones that are limited ingredients. So we're trying to limit the antigens that are stimulating the digestive track whereas those that are low fat or kind of different approach So that might be something. As trying a different approach with that hit I, just continue to with the pregnant on every other day Stephen. Well, the other Diet I certainly would because if we're taking away the effects of prednisone while you're making diet switch, we're going to potentially lose control and and I'd hate to take away the medication that's helping to decrease the inflammation even more. So yeah now it may be an argument if you know most cats have I inflammatory bowel disease symptoms that are related to the small intestine but there is a small percentage of cats about twenty five percent that actually can have symptoms related to the colon and when that happens we see constipation. So. It could. This could all be her disease just affecting a different aspect of her digestive tract. So that's why I don't want you to you know stop your medicine or change the Diet and really work with your veterinarian. To make some of these decisions I can give you guidelines recommendations. But but you know I can't see your pet so I can't tell you exactly where you should be going. But. One thing. One thing I do like to do for helping to make those stools temporarily softer while we're trying to treat the underlying problem is to use MIRA lax, and for cats I find it the most effective least offensive laxative that we can give them and for average Katie start at maybe a quarter, a teaspoon with their food twice a day, and it's easiest if in a canned food because it just dissolves when it hits moisture. And it's tasteless but there are some owners that We'll add it to dry food and I do it like Shakin Bacon, a little ziplock bag, and it kind of sticks to the dry food fairly well. But. That might be one thing I would try in the meantime and then You know really make sure that we're not missing anything down there because the worst thing that can happen is chronic constipation cats will cause permanent damage. So and that's another argument x rays important because we don't want to get to the point where getting so distended that it damages the nerves because then you'll never get control of it. I would try a little bit of some vet work and a little bit of some laxative there. So it sounds like moneybags needs just a little more money. From the X ray and of course, the Miramax there let us know how this turns. Yes. Let us know how? Yeah, you know I think judy spent like six thousand dollars on her dog for legs and we spent a tremendous amount of money on our animals because we love them. We're just a little bit crazy about them. They make a big their family members to US right. Yeah I think my. The Tech, the author think I'm crazy because I'm so obsessive Mike Cat, bowel habit but. I appreciate your call today emily call us back. Let us know if you have any other questions and thanks for listening. We appreciate it. 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This is where we celebrate the connection with our pass. That crazy about your animals found the right place in the right right stationed right show. We're all just a little bit ludi about our pets. We definitely spoil them and treat them like they're family members. In fact, I treat my pets better than family. We think we're normal we do normal. But anybody looking in from the outside would probably say, Hey. You know they love their pets a lot maybe too much. But I think that's okay because you know thirty years ago the dog was in the backyard in a dog house, and now they're in bed with US hogging the bad in often times. We sleep in weird awkward position so that they're comfortable. Pet sitting people are gonNA say I know this is strange but this is the way I feed my animals like you know what nothing strange because everybody has the way that they spoil their Oh. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm just GONNA. Let you ruminate on that for a second and think about how you spoil your pets. I will tell you in just a few minutes Robert row with five things. Every dog owner must have who I love less. Interesting to scratch my head going hm what's I have everything plus so I'm sure I've got that list covered while we'll see I. Bet you don't I. Bet you. He never know, and then also in just a few minutes, we're going to talk to a young lady who suffered from believe Mea. which is one of the worst eating disorders anorexia bulimia that top list of diseases and disorders that can actually kill you and from what I understand we'll ask her she would throw up twenty times a day T. So that can't be good for you. What Savior? Well, a dog saved her. In fact, several dogs saved her and we'll find out her story and just a few minutes right here on animal radio. So you WANNA stick around for that especially if you have an eating disorder or any disorder because you know animals can be so helpful. Yeah. Yeah. It's you could be addicted to drugs or suffer from depression just many things animals are very helpful and oftentimes, we help them. Yes. Doctor I think a lot of times especially say like a child that's having a disability. They see an animal with a disability in does help empower them and see the animal dealing with some of the same struggles and I think that some kindred bond. So I I'm wondering about the The lady with Lamia while you don't a dog with a digestive problem would help heal her and and. Make that animal. Well, I think actually she might have dog with digestive problems story. So we'll ask him about that. I got to say that know animals not only can help us, but we can help them often times at the same time. So but this is old news to us but maybe new news to you speaking of News Lorie Brooks, what you have coming up. Well, there's some new research out. They did some experiments to find out does your dog really love you or does he just want that treat that's in your hand? Think about it I mean don't have wondered. Well know. So scientists set up some situations where the dogs had to choose that treat or the owner. They don't give us unconditional love that it is. I will tell you but not right now. Okay. That's on the way stick around for that. I saw this truck driving around and this big yellow truck with ears cat ears and I said, what is this apparently is the caddy wagon and we have amy Gilbreath, joining us. She's the found animals executive director and it's I guess she's the brainchild behind this. Hi. Amy How. Are you doing? Hello I'm fantastic. How are you? Very good I think we had you on in two thousand and eleven and you had like a calendar which was guys with six packs and they they were holding cats and you were raising money for your organization. Is that correct? Yes. So the official title of the calendar was six packs, nine lives. We internally referred to it as hot men with cats. I. Remember it. I i. still have a copy of even though the the dates are bad guy certainly out of the box what is this catty wagon that looks like a cat what's that all about that is about cats and getting cats adopted many places I in the country cats still need more help in animal shelters than dogs, and so we were looking for a new way to take cat and kitten adoption to the people right now it's kitten season, and so we do a a foster program, and then we have this bumper crop of kittens that need to be adopted and food trucks are hot and kids are. Amazing, and so we just kinda thought. Well, what if we created a food truck style, mobile adoption vehicle take cats and kittens out in the community and the caddy wagon was born. My question is when people are one adopted kin, they're ready to go to a shelter does this create any kind of impulse adoption where they see you and they see a cat and they're they're not ready but they just they want it well, we say Kim sell themselves and that's true and that's true whether we're at a stationary location or on the mobile unit. But regardless of where we're at, we do a full adoption counselling process with everyone. So we ask a lot of questions and we WANNA make sure that you are ready for a cat and that we know how we can support you and integrating that cat into your household. So the adoption counselling is no different on the caddy wagon than it is at our stationary location. Wagon which which I'll hold a picture up to the microphone so that people can see what it looks like and it has ears on top, which is absolutely adorable is the only one. It's the only one we know of that is a mobile adoption vehicle that is devoted to cats and shaped like a cat. Of course, there are other mobile adoption trucks out there but I have. Not yet seen one that's painted to look like a giant Orange Tabby cat complete with years and the tail I might add definitely catches your attention. Yeah. People have loved it and it's got to flaps that swing open. So it's got a flap on the side and a flap on the back. So kinda like where you would walk up to order from a food truck and that's Where the cat, Kennels are meet-and-greet areas inside. So you can sit and play with the cat that you're thinking about adopting how can people where it's going to be do you have a schedule up on the website we do. So if you go to Kenny Wagon Dot Org, you can find out all about it. You can be some photos and a video and you can see our. Upcoming schedule. Okay. Well, I encourage listeners to checkout caddy wagon dot Org and thank you so much for joining us today. My pleasure. He don't forget you can get your fix of animal radio anytime you want with the animal radio APP. For iphone android download it. Now it's made possible by fear free pets taking the pet out of petrified visit them at fear free happy homes DOT com. Yeah. Are Convenient but sometimes, the really gross, that's why the Animal Radio Studio Stunt Dog Lady Bug uses the Brilliant Pads Self Puppy Pad. We love how it handles number one and number two it seals away the waste and replaces dirty pants for us. Brilliant pad gives her home clean and smelling fresh. All we do is replace the role once every few weeks and the process is fast and clean. In fact, lady gives it five pause up learn more about it at brilliant pad dot com is an animal radio news update. I'm Laurie Barracks Renegade Goldfish have been a problem. All over the world and officials are asking you please do not dump your pet goldfish into a lake. It can set off the ECO balance of waterways when a new fishes dumped into a laker waterway and it has no natural predators there. So things kind of get out of control and then those goldfish began eating plants that the natural fish who are already there needs to survive researchers say in Waterways Goldfish it away as much as four pounds. It's likely. Yeah. That they were beano probably a kids pet and maybe the family was moving the parents didn't want to take. The aquarium. So they just dump the Goldfish into the local wetlands, but it's not a new problem or one that's unique to just Australia. It was just last year. The Canadian government put out a plea for pet owners to stop dumping Goldfish into local waterways. Remember goldfish are Revia species of car and they can reach monstrous sizes in the wild and like all carp the domestic goldfish will grow to be as large as its resources and surroundings allow and in the wild goldfish are her nevarez. They're bottom feeders and that disrupts sediment and they said that makes it harder for. The other fish to eat plus a goldfish the wild will feed on the eggs of native species and they may also be bringing new diseases to wild fish population. Now, believe it or not. There's more on this goldfish are so incredibly tenacious. One of the fish that was tracked in this new Australians that's revealing all of this info to US traveled one, hundred, forty, two miles in the one year that researchers followed it. So no matter where you live no matter how sentimental you are over your unwanted pet please do not set for you when it's time to say goodbye. A sad subject you can't find a new home for it. The researchers who did this study say check with the pet shop where you bought it see if they'll take them back and they add that if you're going to euthanize the pad if you can't find someone else to take it to put them in the freezer I said, that's the most humane way wasn't that tragic heard that before. But they're like plants you put a plant in a pot it grows bigger. You put a fish in a bigger lake at grows bigger catch them. Too Serious Kenya. because. You can eat cod show. Just, shut off Mike. Going to get rid. Of. Them. They carper, they're bottom feeders. The gunge that's on the bottom right. Let me let lobster. Offices and crabs and everything else be like all right and I say, should off Washington. Go ahead is it all off? Thanks. Kidding Joey Washington State Insurance Commissioner is find a pet insurance company. American. Pet Insurance which goes under the name trupanion one, hundred and fifty thousand dollars for violating state laws in Washington state they say most of the violations were related to charging rates at the Insurance Commissioner did not approve and that is required by law, but the violations did include of. Failures to cancel policies in a timely manner after a pets death after a customer also, no longer own depressed and when the pet owner who canceled a policy, they were apparently failing to cancel those policies and in an experiment further investigating their relationship between humans and dogs researchers wanted to find out if it is a true bond or is it a love of food? You know those treats we give them. They found most dogs anticipate the praise of their owner as much. If not more than a food reward, you remember you know a century ago psychologist Ivan, Pavlov had trained dogs you know all about that Pavlov's dogs. But now in this new research published in the journal Social. Cognitive and affective neuroscience boy that is way over my head. It suggests that dogs are aren't. So single minded is Pavlov thought. Now the scientists began their experiment. By training dogs to associate three different objects with three different rewards there was a pink toy truck with food. So if the dog chose pink toy truck, then they got food a blue toy which was in night was associated with verbal praise and a hairbrush was associated with nothing or no reward. Now, over the course of the thirty, two trials, they did thirteen dogs were presented with the three objects and all dogs preferred a reward. At all they say, four dogs showed a particularly strong response to the blue toy which got them praise while. You probably thought this to nine dogs. The most responded equally to the two types of rewards and only to consistently were more excited about the food reward. Now, they did a second experiment kind of test. This first one where researchers allow dogs to follow one or two simple mazes one leading to the owner. The other simple maze led to a bowl of food owner sat with their backs turned and then praised their dog when he or. She arrived. Now the findings in the second experiment pretty much mimicked the first most of the dogs alternated between loving the food or loving the owner but the dogs with the strongest brain response to praise they chose their owners eighty to ninety percent of the time, and that shows the importance of social reward and the need for us to give praise to our dogs. I'm Laurie Brooks get more breaking news anytime at animal radio DOT COM. This has been an animal radio news update get more at animal radio DOT com. Live at the Red Barn Studios. You're listening to animal radio. Here's talent judy who's this Carey's Morgan? How are you doing? Well, I have three little dogs Tujia, was any or All females and they get along really good for the most part. But every once in a while they really get into it I mean the teach shown and everything, and I'm just kinda wondering if I should break that up or leave them alone and let them figure out what they need to figure out. Well it kind of depends here. So what are the squabbles over you know usually it's a toy and they have certain places on the bed where they lay and if one of them gets in the other one's place especially at nighttime in the middle of the night if one of them gets the other ones place and they go to get back in there after they've gone out Potty, then they get mad at each other. That's my spot Okay well. Shoot you break up fighting dogs. You know what my opinion is. I would rather them talk it out than them, fight it out. So your job is to actually anticipate what is going to set them off and what are the problematic areas. So it's far better to not allow it to escalate to the point where we could actually have an injury. Now, if they're talking it out, they might see non verbally give each other a look there might be a little grumble in it should cease there. So there should always be a point where dogs defer to another one. So Hey, that's your favorite spot. Okay I. got it. That's your favorite toy. Okay. Cool and if they don't, then we don't want to yell at them. We don't want to scream, hey, stop that because I can actually make their anxiety worse in those situations, but that's where you can help to try to direct their behavior. So, if there is a particular toy, making sure that that is separate where we won't have squabble over that If coming in the back door means they're going to have a spot that they're going to all go running for and jump. Then we control their entry in maybe separate them so that we don't have those those squabbles. But a lot of also depends on you being the leader in the household and making sure that they understand that. Hey, when mom's around, we don't have to fight because everything's all figuring out. So a Lotta Times I, find that dogs will tend to fight over attention for the family members Sitting on laps, things like that sitting next to you so that that's goes back to where you just need to make sure that each and every one of them understand that you got it you're in charge and they. They all have their space on MOM's lap. It is hilarious and they don't fight over that. But you know people say that well, I'd say when I say people their dogs can't get jealous. And I believe that they can. Will they. They definitely have the things that are important to them whereas another dog might not have something that's important to them. So yeah. So but I would have to say that you know these particular things items spots. It's really important to recognize that when this is happening and we want to make sure we don't yell at someone who's Doing the right thing in the right situation. So you know if you've got one dog that's already lying on a spots in the other dog. It's her favorite spot. She really wants up there and she growls snaps that is not an appropriate response. No matter who's favorite spot is we don't want to reinforce the dog that is acting inappropriately or aggressively. So doesn't matter who's favorite spot is if you're growling snapping enact and a fool that is not appropriate, you're not GonNa get what you want. So then you would remove that dog out of the situation not as a form of punishment which says a way to defuse the situation. So it is a little bit dependent and sometimes these are hard things to answer with how kind of being there and seeing it because we might say, oh, that's fancies favorite spot don't do that. But you know a fancy as teeth and snap and growling or got her ears back. It doesn't even have to be verbal. So that's where you would need to really watch their ears their emotions. That kind of. One dog even though it was her favorite spot in the other dog was I've never moved the dog that within so that I don't do that. Okay to some degree but that's again where if one dog says, Hey, I'm uncomfortable with what you're doing the dog doesn't back down or just doesn't take that cue appropriately. That's when you're going to have problems. You're listening to animal radio call the Dream Team now with a free animal radio APP FOR IPHONE and Android. FIDO friendly magazine presents the twelve th annual cross country Ted Adoption tour yet your lips on route sixty six along with media sponsor animal radio, and car sponsor religions car van rental with companion sponsors. I'm ox advocate sponsor, brutus, bone broth, and community sponsor hands on gloves. The tour travels down America's favorite highway stopping at shelters along the way to support adoption events and to raise money in the first eleven years. The tours help place over fourteen thousand pets into new forever homes log onto FIDO friendly dot com to see where the tour stops near you and come out for a safe fun way to support your local shelter and who knows you might just find your new forever friend. Live at the Red Barn Studios Air listening to animal radio. Here's how and Judy. Remind you you could ask your questions directly from the animal radio APP for your iphone or Android it's a free download not only ask your questions but listen to the show and go through some amazing resources. They've just updated the APP, and if you haven't downloaded it yet do it now. Well, we're with Dr Martin Becker, arbitrary correspondent. He's calling on the phone today because he I don't where are you today? What City are you in new? York? City New York City New York City here of on Madison Avenue. Jealous Listen I wanted to get you on the phone because we've had a couple of calls in the last couple of weeks people just unsure about their veterinarians and I understand that you actually have a list of things, red flags that we should look for in our veterinarians that might make us want to look for a new veterinarian. I'm sure this will probably be a popular topic Dr Oz Calls Me America's veterinarian, but America's veterinarian wants to be clear not all that Americans are created equal and just like with any profession, there's really good ones. There's good ones and there's ones that are not so good. I will never say, oh my gosh. Veteran can't be wrong or they. I'm sure they didn't miss a diagnosis it because it's just not true and unfortunately most people think they're veterinarian graduated out of near the top of their class and I want to give people some things that they can look at to know when it's time to change veterinarians and one thing to understand you tell. So much of what happens in medicine you can't judge the let's say you take your dog one place to. Be spayed and it took another dog to another place to be spayed and took the third dog to another place to be spayed. You have no idea what happens inside you had no idea how long the surgery took what the what we call Hema stasis. You know how much bleeding there was now much trauma there was to the tissues, what kind of materials they used but there are some things that you can tell from you know from the. Outside was the pet trimmed very neatly where the hair's gone is it as needed? What we hope happens inside is clean does not smell but I tasted the things that I are red flags for sure. Okay and these are not in any particular order. But one is if the veterinarian does not do pain control, you know I just turned sixty I've been a practicing veterinarian for thirty five years and I was taught in veterinary school. So people my age. The pets did not feel pain and if they did, it was actually good because they were less active as they were recovering, and we now know that's absurd. Pets have the same neural pathways as humans do and so if you're a veterinarian, doesn't if you're going in for say spay or neuter or for teeth cleaning, they should have pain medication before during and after surgery. So if you're a veteran does not do pain control tied look for changing veterinarian. So make sure that they're using. Or paying control with with the procedure is that there? Had somebody call me call me on the road that had a this literally just happened their dog was mauled by another dog. It was a little she to cross mall by a great Dane and went to veteran variances or what's the wounds okay and plucked a little hair out didn't put on pain medication that this little dog was was picked up. Shook and had puncture wounds. In horrible pain in. So it was bombing, and so I had him go to another veterinarian and and got on pain medication and the dogs doing really well today so that that's a real world example of something that just happened never go to a veterinarian that that doesn't do pain control for things that you know like you know spay or neuter knee surgery dentistry wound-care second thing would be for dentistry I was taught that back then we did ultrasonic cleaning thought that was the very latest for for animal dentistry, and now you need to go to veterinarian that has can take dental radiographs. They're different than the reader graphs you take with normal machine. the also want to make sure that they polish the teeth after they're done and they used ceilings so. Or, they use an x ray machine you would want to you would want to ask if they have digital dental x ray and actually ask okay once the teeth cleaned, are they polished and is there a sealant if you if you Polish it what happens with ultrasonic cleaner think of think of a Cobblestone Road In Greenwich Village in New York that's what the tooth surface looks like. It's pitted. And the the good veterinarians will polly stats. What's Nice and smooth it's like you know interstate eighty four up where I live it's nice smooth surface and then the sealant has prevent the plaque from attaching to the tooth. Okay. So those are things you can find out you actually want to ask and and then the other things it's really you know if you take a tour of the hospital I like to have people take a tour of the hospital and even if you're an existing client, ask if you can look and see where the surgeries are done see. Where the animals are kept and you WanNa make sure that if they're doing surgery that they have a cap gown and mask on some of the inferior veterinarians we'll just put gloves on they won't have a capital and have a mass. They won't have a gown on again it's cheaper to do it that way, but you're putting your pets healthier risk. And then I think I think another thing is they've never do diagnostic tests. So the veterans that always well I think it's this or this got blanked but I don't do diagnostic tests and I think where she had is they don't refer. A lot of veterans are low refer because they they WANNA keep the income to themselves and also they don't want to some don't want to be found bound wrong that they made a misdiagnosis but I've had a saying for thirty five years and I've been in Pailin Judy been friends for a decade or two. You can be accused the diagnosis you could be accused of charging too much. You can be accused of being late for an appointment, but you can never be accused of not looking after the best interests of the PAT. That means that needs to test your speaking for it. It needs of that means you refer to somebody that has an expertise that you don't have you referred if I need a second opinion hearing for us so. I guess to summarize it up. Make sure they use pain control. Doing Dentistry make sure that there's the new stuff we've learned about being able to take digital dental radiographs into polishing and sealants. And again, that's a shine. That's a sign of intelligence. Of, being a great better to refer early and often okay we're GONNA put this list over an animal radio DOT com. So if you have questions about your look over the list and see if you're vets practicing the way he or she should be practicing. Because, we want the best for your animals and you should too and just like any other business. 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You're the most important part of this show. Yeah. You look down at your radio you have questions about your cat or your dog you're a Guano, your flamingo or your monkey. I just saw today that they're selling monkeys in the US. I. Don't WanNa be right it's apparently they're do in. Florida. They sell them through some pet stores. Yeah and I will go across I don't cross the line and I don't treat monkeys which is strange because you're in Vegas and I would think there'd be a lot of monkeys there. You know there are and we actually get calls all the time but monkeys from me anything that can give me hepatitis or give me a near human just kind of creeps me out. I can throw its own poop. That is true. Yeah, and there is our sue human like it's just. Very interesting. Well, you know I don't I don't personally think anybody should own monkeys because they are so very human-like but you know what? We don't own our animals anyway they own us. We're just guardians slayings. Dog owner must have, but in just a few minutes, Robert Similar, we'll tell us what those five things every dog owner must have. Because I mentioned last hour I think a sense of humor is one thing. Head insurance. Yeah. There you go. Pet Insurance. How many of your clients actually have insurance Dr Debbie? Probably up to fifteen percent but not really many It's still a lot of folks at something that they have challenges budgeting for but boy, those do have it. Oh, it can pay off in so much when especially when the payouts are at eighty percent or ninety percent of their total bill, it really makes you would advocate for that. I do like that major medical. Policy I do feel the hat I. I've seen it save animals lives when families would have no other option available and especially some of the companies that actually have pre approvals so that you can new at the moment before you till the doctor go ahead and do the surgery my insurance something company said that they will cover x amount of this and I have the balance I can pay for whatever the amount is. So that can be really Very empowering to provide the level of care that you want. Yes. Absolutely, and in fact I was thinking like ten years ago it was like unheard of to have insurance and I got I'll be honest. I don't have insurance. But I do have a savings account and I do have It's interest bearing savings account, and if I need to something God forbid cataclysmic illness or whatever. I think I could pretty much cover it if I needed to and probably would. But not everybody has that luxury to put anything who savings account of course I eat robin all the time that's the only reason. Hey. If you just adopted a dog from a shelter or rescue and it's you know six years old eight years old, can you still get insurance on it? Yeah. Sure. Can it's just if you get insurance when they're puppies, the premiums are cheaper and you get in before they have pre existing conditions. So, as you get a mature dog, there may be more likely that there's a pre existing condition. So if you get a new one, you usually there's like a health checkoff list or a statement. The veterinarian does to say what present at the time you got the dog and Those things might not be coverage that you know if it had A. Conditioner. A bad hip at that point From there forward would be I just always figured that they would say, oh, it's a bulldog. You Know Oh bulldog. Great. So you just you pick the yeah expensive. You've got the lacquer it's actually more the Ferrari I should say. If you're the Volkswagen. Is. There a particular dog that is cheaper than other dogs as far as medical expenses and probably insurance I don't there's anyone dog. You're not going to have some potential genetic risk. There's going to be always something that each breed is prone for, but it will say that large breed dogs when they do need medications. It's a lot of those are just on their weight and you're gonNA find you're paying out more medications for large or giant breed dog. Then maybe for a new smaller or mid sized dog, and then there are those breeds that are just kind of money pets like the English bulldogs, Shar? Pei's. Where we have a lot of kind of expected things from skin to ears respiratory problems. That that we're going to expect I can't say there's any one breed that I'd say oh, is going to be your best cheap bet a good mongrel perhaps might be best thing. Okay let's what's coming up in the news. What do we have coming up in the News Laurie? Well, we're going to talk about. Presidential we can't talk about you know politics here. Presidential pet choice for your dog or for your cat. So say you're a big Donald Fan. If you're a not a Donald Fan, you can have your dog chew on one of the Donald Boys. Right is on his fuzzy hair. Off just fine I mean it's this time of year I think it's appropriate. We need a little levity with this whole election thing going on anyway. Well, Hello Angelica how are you? Good good. How are you? Good where you calling from? Cambridge Ohio I hear I. Hear it in Your Voice I hear you and your accent no no. No. My answers from New York raised in New York. I was raised in New York. But now I've been here about three years. We'll welcome to animal radio. I have the Dream Team here to answer your questions. What's going on okay. I found what song it's master and type the land I I thought it was mathis than something about it's for me it's matches and labs. Okay. She's about she's going to be three years old now. And the thing is a very good dog put whenever like if she knows people they come to my house kiss it salad squats she wants the peace. In the. Is excited but it happens all all all the time. You can't talk to you just walk in the door and you ignore it's okay. But if you say like good girl Lulu whatever she peeing all the house okay and John Does she you said she does not have accidents at other times. No never never kind of key can be all night and she doesn't do anything inside. We'll Anjelica you are brilliant because you've already started the whole steps of therapy and how he addresses. Find out looking at her, not talking to her. So what you're describing, we can have a couple of different scenarios going on one would be what we call submissive urination. The other is excitement urination and the differences, the motivation, but they're very similar in how they display. A submissive urination behavior is a dog who is just is feels lower on the totem pole and is being it's doggie language that they're doing when they squashed in the urinate. It's a way to say, Hey, you're the boss it's cool. Everything's great. Then then there's the other dogs that are doing out excitement and I kind of make that the equivalent of okay. I was a kid and my grandma tickle me and I would say Jones Tacoma because I'm GonNa be and I wasn't. Tick Ler peer. So it's kind of the same thing. So if it's mostly excitement and she's not necessarily being submissive in other ways with these individuals, I'm going to bet she's probably more excited than anything else. So yes, the steps that we do to try to address this are to really not give her things that are going to trigger that excitement and that may be making eye contact. So we're going to not look her in the eye. It may be ignoring her for five to ten minutes a dog that does this every time you come into the House I recommend not speaking to them and not really even recognizing them just going about putting your first down your keys down all that and ignoring them. And then the other thing that we really work on his making sure that we have the opportunity to get her outside as soon as either you get home or right before you anticipate someone's coming in because making sure we got an empty bladder as you know sitting in her setting her up to be successful. Not. To have a failure there in that situation and then done that I've done that she's just comes from outside she did everything she wants look but it doesn't matter. She could just be out when I bring her in anybody that pays it. To her or they just like Patrick she. And she squats, you need to train your guest a little better I'm gonNA say because if we if we know what triggers it, then I would just tell people hey, my dog is just a peer. Please don't talk to don't look at her in the first few minutes and set her up to be successful. Let's not get upset that this is happening. We have to make steps to try to fix it and try to those triggers. Now, the next step from there, it goes into more behavioral modification. So we want to work on teaching her how to be quiet and calm without getting all goofy, and that may be teaching her command like the down command pillow. Or in a dog Kennel and you can teach drug to do this without being locked up against their will by telling them go to your account or go to pillow and then rewarding her and doing this when people are in excitement saving things aren't going on. So we want to practice that in teacher. Okay. You'RE GONNA get a treat when you're quiet and calm not. Dancing around Waggin your tail hip hop in the air, and then when she repeat that skill over and over then once we get to where there's people coming in, we can practice that get her into a down stay before the people enter the door tell them you know, hey, you know Jim ring the bell just come on in I'm ready and my dogs in downstate. And then give her a trace. But I I, feel bad people don't want. Know my goal for ten minutes. You know I told my sister that my son in law I just don't look at just ignored and you're right. It happened and the most important thing that. We didn't talk about is you should never punish a dog for this behavior. I don't know not. Yelling or you know getting excited say oh. Don't do that. It gets the more anxious and actually further perpetuates it. So yeah, exactly. Exactly. Thanks for listening to Jellicoe we truly appreciate it and you're listening not listening on wbz ps there in Cambridge. Sworn no nine. Yes. that. Wiped from my time that's why like from our time. Yeah. Exactly, thank you so much for listening. We appreciate it. Hope to hear from you once again and don't forget. You can also ask your questions from the free radio APP FOR IPHONE and Android, so I gotta ask you doctor you said it was your goal or your dead that would tickle. You would well my my grandma and my dad would you that? Yeah, did you ever actually? Oh, absolutely I mean I would I would say please don't you know it's all fun and games but you know when it's going to get out of hand and you're GONNA lose control and Your outgrown that. I you know I don't really try test that hypothesis anymore. I'm very particular. I just don't go there and let people do that. I. Completely, understand if you happen to have a Yorkshire Terrier, a Shitzu Pug or mini schnauzer check out Dr Debbie's books how to be your dog's best friend. Hello. This is Jane Goodall on radio. And I just like every everybody to realize that each day you live you make some different on the planet and you can choose what kind of different you're going to make. Hopefully every day we'll fight to make the world a little bit better for people on the most and for the environment. Goodbye Empty Calorie lookalike dog treats and hello yummy combs. The nutritious treat that cleans dog's teeth between vet visits our novel honeycomb shaped losses between and around the teeth and gums where oral disease can start yummy combs come in five sizes based on dog wait plus their forty four percent protein-rich with twelve wellness ingredients teach your dog a new treat. Find Yummy combs. Pet. Store or vet's office. You're listening to animal radio call the Dream Team. Now, with a free animal radio APP FOR IPHONE and Android. Well, happy Labor Day weekend to you I. Hope You and your animals are out at joining the beautiful weather. We're having across the country right now and you have animal radio with you in just a couple of minutes per promising you for the last couple of hours a young lady who suffered from Bulimia. Terrible terrible eating disorder. You don't know what that is sh she would eat and then she would throw up because I guess she felt conscious about her weight. I don't know. Psychology of. Fat Yeah. Yeah It's Anyway it's a horrible eating disorder and apparently she she's tried just about everything. GonNa Therapist. Just. All kinds of rehabs. But nothing worked until she met. Some dogs And that changed her life and she changed her life for those dogs it. We'll talk to her and just a couple of minutes right here on animal radio. If you want to ask your question don't forget. You can also ask from the animal radio APP for Iphone Android and visit us over at animal radio DOT pet. I'm looking over at Lorie Brooks. It's so quiet in the newsroom today. You know it is I I did the the big shuffle with I mean really relocating four dogs three times to find the quietest mixed today. That's We. Miss It. What about the Sun Sunday? Sunday on Sunday is Cindy's sleeping. That's why it's so quiet. Sunday wasn't a noisy one. You. Know he's. So, what are you working? Oh let's see today pet sitters. How do you decide you want to be a pet sitter? They've done a survey on it and we'll tell you what they said. How did you decide Judy? You wanted to be a pet sitter. You just kind of fell into it a mid elderly neighbor who had to pugs that she could no longer walk because she had back surgery and she asked me if I would do it so I thought. Sure I. Guess I never thought about it and then I started doing it and then other neighbor saw me and asked me if I'd walk their dogs and other neighbor saw me said, hey, you know do you come in and feed that? There's just such a big need for it maybe this is something I should do. So it was sort of a hobby that turned into a business for you. Yeah I wasn't I didn't set out to be a pet didn't sit down say okay. Let let me draw up a plan. This is what I'm GonNa do it just Kinda happened wow and I. It's very profitable on various successful at it. Yeah. It's it's working very well for me. I noticed that you used to stay here the whole day. The show but now you hop out soon as the show is over now to. Do some jobs in Dr Dogs around and drive dogs around. Yeah. Yeah. That's the one I gotta get Outta here after the show today and go drive a dog around not walk but drive it around drive. Drive around. As you drive your dog around yeah I get to drive their car in its out on ranches. So I go by I see bulls eye seahorses dear lot of baby deer wired you walking the dog well, he's. He's a big lab mix. He's close to seventy eighty pounds and. He doesn't like to go home. So The Times I've gotten him out walking. He stops and leased out puts on the brakes when I can't get them back home and she told me before tie up to a tree and go go run back home and get the car. This is ridiculous. I gotta run all the way back to the House her house get the car drive all the way back and I don't like leaving him tied up their loan. I'm so afraid he could back out of his leash and you know I I can't see him. So it really bothered me. So now I, just get over there and I put him in the car and drive them around. He sticks his head out the window and he had A. We. Come back and he goes right back into his his big Kenner. US quite a job I. Bet you see some of the strangest things I could tell you some stories you could you could. Put It in a book. Okay. Maybe that'll be my book. Yeah. There you go. Okay. So if you WANNA talk the doctor don't forget. You can also ask your questions from the free animal radio APP FOR IPHONE and Android. 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Is An animal radio news update I'm Laurie Brooks Man in Florida's warning pet owners about a poisonous plant after his nine month old puppy died from eating seeds of that plant. The puppy is a nine month old boxer mix pit-bull boxer mix her name was Zita. She ate a seed from a Sago palm that's right. Just a seed now many seeds and nuts can be. Plans to, of course, can be poisonous to dogs and the seeds from the Sago palm really have long time forever been on the list of the worst toxic offenders dogs. So it must have been horrific for this man. He said that dogs Zita was salivating bloated her eyes turned yellow in any of course, immediately took her to the vet but she passed away two days later. Now Z. was not the only dog. This has happened to more than fourteen thousand dogs have been poisoned by sago palms and thirty four dogs have died after eating parts from them during just the. Past ten years that according to the American Society for the prevention of Cruelty to animals. Now, of course, these poisonous palms are found everywhere. especially you know in the warmer places and yards, front yards, backyards, stores, nurseries, they sell them, but the US consumer product, safety. Commission, did you know this does not require warning labels on plants and sago palms by the way are not the only plants that pet parents should be worried about? Here's some of the other very poisonous plants. If your dog ingest them, you need to get them to evade immediately Fox glove or did tell us. Tulips. Would you believe as Zelaya's which is a Bush a little SHRUB oleanders very popular out West daffodils which are grown all over the place. They're a bulb and the house plants defend Baca cyclamen and Amaryllis Amaryllis can be grown outside in warmer areas but any of those plants can do great harm to your dog. There are new ways that you know pet products come on the market in for one reason or another some of them just really stand out and catch are I, and they're so fascinating for some reason that we just wanted to share them with you like the poop transporter from Hank's stuff it's pretty much a a no touch anything that is touched poop before device. You got that the transporter springs open with just the touch of a toggle which allows you to drop in poop bags. Now, after your walk when you've collected your piles, all you do is push the dog. and. The transporter opens dumping the waste in a trash can now I've seen this and I have to tell you if you have a dyson vacuum cleaner, it's kind of like that. You know you take the canister off the middle part you. Pull Open that little toggle thing and the bottom just opens in everything dumps out same kind of thing. The cool thing another cool thing is that the transporter is made of odor resistant, Rip Stop Nylon and is available in ten colors my friends. So if you the color of your poop picker upper is really important to you. They've probably got you covered on this. It's also washable attached to any leash handle and has a pocket that hold standard size rolls a pickup bags. Now apparently, kids don't say when I grow up I, WanNa be a pet sitter. How do we know that? Well, pet sitters international PSI for short has conducted the survey of its professional pet sitters and that sort of a found only three percent of its members pursued pet sitting as a first career choice immediately following high school or College. Now, while forty percent of its members, they say decided to start a professional pet sitting business after they retired or were laid off. But most of the group's members fifty, eight percent of them actually chose to leave another career in order to open their own professional pet sitting business likely after getting fed up at the office about something I can picture that happened. Really, can't you isn't that what Judge Judy knew that she got sick and tired fed up with everything going on here at animal radio I'm doing pets gets me out of here. She's doing both now and she. It's actually pretty profitable for you. Isn't it very profitable? I was amazed. I. Think if you're good at it, then it would be very profitable. I'm. Word of mouth. You know we're so passionate about our pets. You'd be surprised I have about six seven clients that irregulars that I have their kice. They need I already have houses keys to their houses plus you have some crazy jobs. One where you have to drive a dog around is that correct? Take it for a dry I drive it around and catching chickens and all. In I try to catch a backyard chicken. What is wrong with this? I had to take ro ro for a ride in the car today to get him out of the backyard. And we do this right. The craziness is everywhere though truthfully chances are you've had your fill of the upcoming presidential election and it's candidates. Or maybe you can't get enough of your own candidate, but you can't stand the other for whatever reason though this might be fun for you and your pet we're talking about the presidential parody toys by Fuzhou. Toys are available in sizes both for dogs or cats. The Donald Toys sports a Golden Tan and quashed plush hair. It's fake for just like the Donald. I did not say that. I got. and. Also, if you can't get enough of that Barshop dot com also has some political toys a donald pet toy, which is called the dog Nolde that you will never hear the dog nolde squeak because Donald would say squeaking is for whim. So when shooed the dog Noel Toy, grunts? Their sixteen bucks each. I'd love to have. That The donald trump to give a toy like that being a housewarming gift for somebody and you know October November when we're getting really close to the election and you've you've got a rivalry going with a friend of yours or something we'll be fun. So I'm going to buy a lot of one of them. Yeah I. Get more breaking animal news anytime an animal radio DOT com. This has been an animal radio news update get more at ETEL RADIO DOT com. Five. Valerie, how're you doing we have to Pas Alvin Louis and actually there with us now on road trip sixteen hour petting the mid west and we had issues with especially the nail pug with their. And we tried putting brand flakes and corn in their food and that did not work, and additionally we bring glance twenty, four hours before we left. And shortly into our trip. Issues again with paint Glam. And wondering if you have any recommendations. Okay. Pleasant topic here anal glands glancing courtroom cornflakes. So, when you're when you're saying, they're having problems with her glands what are they do and are they having infections they scooting what type of issues? No he he doesn't even know that it's happening but he leaks and it's out just. Melt. And it makes them come. And when he had it in the car when we we can instantly smell it. So we are traveling now thousand a lot. and I was just wondering you know what is it more than? We can do because within twenty four hours I don't know if they fill back up again and I don't know how fast they still backup. You're dealing with pugs, pugs, and glands are huge problem certain breeze where we do see more issues with anal glands, not necessarily always infections but just a lot of build up and hugs beagles, basset hounds those tend to be on my top list of the top three that we really see a lot of frequent glenn emptying, and that's one thing that I would start as part. Of the treatment for pet that has a problem with a lot of build up to express those sometimes even monthly and win their expressed. I'm definitely all four having them done with a veterinarian or someone who feels comfortable doing the full rectal exam in emptying those glands out because it's very easy to leave some behind if we're just doing the external kind of squeeze those glands. But there's some there's some situations where beyond just this normal buildup that you mentioned fiber and fiber for some people we believe baby hopes and to keep the stool bulk up so that these glands get empty desert Papuan and you know I don't know that it's necessarily scientifically proven everyone likes to try it and add in things like metamucil or extra sources of dietary fiber. you know some dogs actually can have some allergies like food allergies which can contribute to anal Sakya light us, which is the Info inflict infection or inflammation. If I can get my els out there of of those Glenn. So sometimes, I will actually put on a hypoallergenic diet in that can help remedy some of the frequency of problems with those glands and then. The other thing is that if you've try a lot of those remedies and you've gone down that road and you're expressing these glands and they're leaking no matter what you're doing there is a surgery to remove those. It would be probably my last choice in less. You know we really had a proven problem that we can't correct with any other meetings but for some dogs especially those just those leakers it may be something you really WanNa talk to you about about at. Thank you so much bellary. Wish you the best of luck with your travels across the country you're listening to animal radio call the dream. Team now at one, eight, six, six, four, zero, five, eight, four, zero, five. It's Allen Cable. Welcome to the mess. Here's Today's great dog story. You'RE GONNA love this Olivia Fevers flight attendant that flies a lot from Germany to Argentina. She spotted a stray dog outside of her hotel in Buenos Aires she was drawn to him spend a couple of minutes and then thought nothing about it. But every time she came into town, the dog appeared to be. Waiting for her and would follow her around wherever she went. Looks like this dog knew he wanted anyway she arranged for him to be taken to a shelter and adopted some folks did adopt them but the dog escaped the home and went back to the hotel. So Olivia decided she would adopt the dog and back home you know some dogs and people are just magical. Radio, Baby. If you're trying to quit drinking or doing too many drugs listen to me. You don't know me and we'll never meet I had a problem like you once I drank and used to party a little too much till it got out of control and almost ruined my life. 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Tenable radio celebrating the connection with our pets and we'll head back on the phone just a couple of seconds. But first we're going to visit with. Shannon COP. She has written a book called pound for pound Shannon. Welcome to the show. So much. Thanks for having me. Well, of course. Now, you had a gleaming of problem. Is that correct? Yeah for about eight years. Is Well, I started struggling with an eating disorder at age. Sixteen. Addiction and eating disorders run in my family and my father's alcoholism Kinda took a toll for the worst and I began turning to controlling my food, and and my way is a means to try to manage my anxiety. and sadness, and it progressed over the years to the point where I was throwing up about twenty times night. The movie Mia Involves in taking a lot of food and then using some kind of compensatory behavior like over exercising or vomiting or laxatives to get rid of the calories dare I say that the animals a dog in particular help you recover completely I had tried everything I knew I had done therapy medication I'd went to A. Rehab Center in the middle of the desert I read every book I could get my hands on I just simply I knew in my mind what to do I could have written a book on how to recover from an eating disorder but you know I just couldn't do it and my life really didn't change until I got a job working at the San Diego Society and I found very quickly that the one thing I could do. When I felt overwhelmed when I felt like I needed to eat a box of cupcakes was go into a dog Kennel and set and I would usually sit with the big dog shepherd or a pit bull or a lab, and they would. Be. So, excited to see me. They'd sit on my lap and they would they would hold me down. They would send her me I would hold onto them physically until I felt the urge pass and that love and non judgment I could say things to them that I could never even say alone in a room or to a therapist but with the animals somehow I just I felt so much more free than I'd ever been. Were there any dogs in particular that made a big difference? Oh yes. One named Sonny, who actually on my book cover and she was a ten month old pit bull I found in the very back corner of Los Angeles shelter. She was completely emaciated and it looks like someone had taken a hammer to her tail it was broken in four places. And every day she would put her nose through the bars and she just stood there no matter how hot it was in the La Summer Heat. She stood at the front of the bars and you know when I first met her I just thought that's different from how I was when I was in pain or when I was suffering I hid you know I hidden food, I hidden the eating disorder but here's this dog just saying, please help me being so vulnerable and so I got to know her and what was incredible is. This is a very rundown shelter. So the dogs had nothing but a water bowl. and. They didn't have toys in betting. They had nothing and sunny had obviously been traumatized obviously, very abused early in life and you know most dogs behaved like I would behave in a kennel like that they deteriorated mentally and physically they you know they were separated from all the things that make them feel alive and like a dog from smells from human interaction from walks from grass. You know and and so most of the dogs understandably would start to deteriorate just start to pace back and forth or stop eating and and sunny actually begins to heal devastating space she she ate for the shoot she wasn't eating at first and she ate out of the palm of my hand for the first time, and then she was afraid of her reflection in her water bill. So she wasn't drinking. It was like she thought this scary big dog was in her way she would hover over the water bowl and look down and then see herself and go oh, my God. Back away and one day it was like a hundred degrees and I watched her just finally she hovered over the ball she looked down and I swear it was like she just made a decision. She was like screw it and she dunks her face in and drank and drank and drank and gave her body that nourishment and you know I just kept watching these incredible. Resilience, her facing her fears, her doing the hard thing and Did you see yourself in her? Totally you know it was like when she drank for the first time that was like when I started eating for the first time and and and kept it down and said, you know what I'm GonNa do the hard thing that thing that makes me uncomfortable the thing that scares me you know and that's what recovering from an eating disorders all about I mean it sounds very crazy I'm. All celebrate seven years free from Bulimia in just a few days. Look back and say, how could I have done that to myself but it's a mental disorder. It's actually the most fatal. All Mental Disorders are eating disorders and twenty million women in this country and ten million men suffer of in we're talking all ages. Inspirational is how you the animals help you and you help the animals in. It's there's a synergy going on there and I gotta say for you it was bulimia. But for someone else that may be a completely different disorder or disease right animals always seem to be there to help definitely I get emails from people struggling with PTSD or depression or grief, and they all say the same thing you know my story is not. That unique it's animals are healing. It's a wonderful story. You've chronicled it in pound for pound story of one woman's recovery in the shelter dogs who loved her back to life Shannon cop is our guest. I have five copies to give away right now at one, eight, six, six, four, zero, five, eight, four, zero, five so much for having me, I, Love You I. Love your show and and I really appreciate being on. Well, there you go. Is Flown by once again. Thank you so much for spending time with US and I. Hope you'll do it again. Next weekend right here on this great station. Don't forget visit animal radio dot pet and download the animal radio APP for iphone and Android. You'll love it by enjoy your long weekend.

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"Hello. The two hundred edition of Romania up to three and a half years of drama tension cackles breakdown Mike. Refined you cheat four episodes and Seinfeld not as many as friends. I despise enforcement brought relevance. We haven't jumped the shark yet. It's a very special edition. This week with four of our regulars are introduced top speed joining me this week as he did, remain acts number one collector's edition of how liberal in Dunks. This makes me feel old. Office well-spent fucking out why we have we spent three and a half years in a in a room talking each other. I mean. Yeah. But now in different groups different. Rather than their this changed three and a half years. Okay Yeah. Now he's been fantastic. Thank you. It's been a wonderful use of time. We've, achieved great deal. No Greg's anymore. Especially on Romania number two. LLC covered at its Rothstein Hirose to reduce snapped you up. You went some guests to panelists that. I remember the first episode I was I didn't realize there was only number two that I've known so early, but it was like. Time rich and would be about brexit and it was just a revelation. Our wiki about brexit rages because I've been working on it basically since September twenty, fifteen and. That time it'd be just misery upon misery and some rural sitting around a great laugh about and I thought, wow, this way to go. On her heels name Smith I guess on Episode Number Three. Thanks to us. She's now. Is a pleasure being steppingstone. I. was like in his await Nico-. And finally, the baby of the show having made his debut as recently as episode twenty two it's actor Cook and writer Alexandra, Hi Alex Hilar- I. Remember it. Well, I remembered fondly those who the fuck, these people. I occasionally still think. Saturday things went awry and you end up on the panel. 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As dozens of Mike Akin to set to during attempts to cross the Channel Pretty Patel requested of the Ministry of Defence and naval warships to block the passage plan the suicide of ministry itself allegedly said Heart. In slice of Swiss cheese. And attributes late Monkey Smith's you also pointed at cloud to Stein Channel Threat Command. I the whole thing in that voice. Mean I really think you should. Off Thousand Migrants. UNFILTERED. Have made the crossing this year already. Why the timing Wise Virginia during this now. Whereas partly of has been saying people are more of the more likely to be on bitches looking at beaches of this time of year it's also in catching united August and in August, we have a chance to think about stories that we don't normally pay much attention to because there's no parliament sitting in the rest of it but ultimately, it's about Niger Raj Nigel Farraj his quest to achieve something other than the exceptionally hard Brexit, which he has always desired our Nabet. He can't be in a big leader of the party is now who see meaningless position he has the chance to try place pressure on the government and he's been really sub tweeting. Pretty. Potanin, fatty aggressive. I will say in days and then of course, you bear mind that Pretty Patel herself is taking advantage of the absence of her boss identified you I called thus time for his Johnson, puts head above the parapet to stand up values she believes in while he's out of out of a convention Haldane Scotland. I completely agree with you rose I would also say there's another reason for it. And I think it's it's to provide distraction Let's not forget this government has shoveled billions of pounds. To the rich mates for mosques that don't exist for fucking up, that doesn't work very companies with no ferries A. trae system that need trucks choice says worst death rates in Europe being soda Japan Trade Deal only with no point. Of GDP on. Some trophy of Great Britain and the MOM pulling the strings at number ten is repeatedly got slicing us and I'm talking about coming Johnson by the way they're robbing his blind and so two destruction in hopes that none of us actually noticed how fucking a porn this government is the news is pictures of twenty desperate people in a dinghy I think that you know that thinking up to distract as well. session. With just. Date. I I find it hundred ninety seven episodes have mellowed Naomi. Nicely. Magnon. I'm very angry today. Tuna Matassa. Okay. I kissed on wasn't the government's plans but Saturday migration minutes to holy Lynch has. Focused on the government's incompetence. Plenty around. Rather than the morality of it is this I mean this is obviously. Attracted criticism. More leadership from a delicious ice cream vendors, Ben and Jerry. Then we are from the Labor Party. I'm. I don't know is. I mean our general immigration policy, and attitude I'm sure Labor will have a position on it in good time in terms of feeding the the news frenzy around Immigration I can moment you know. Sort of people crossing the channel I think it might be a valid. Attitude to say then feed it when you know. Faraj by gang down. To. The channel, every. Day with his video camera for the last few months. He's created a sense of panic, but he's also done something else. He's advertised it. It's not a coincidence that we're getting really high number of people crossing right now. Part of that is that there are people you know opposite crossing coins at all day long on on us at the moment going loads of people are doing it. It's really easy but the rules will have to be tightened up very soon. I mean that that is literally creating a peak of people that are getting shit we need to go now. So if you're planning to make the crossing over to Britain. You. Know this would make it imperative that you did now an intern that pecan number feeds their sort of alarmist narrative said becomes a sort of self sustaining ever-growing snowball. This is equivalent of assign what closing the pumps on Monday so I waiting. Never, that's exactly in you said before you thought the time, the death of Alan Kennedy. Would change opinions immigration. But in the long run, you approved raw jack stores and I said it will only take one of these needs. Council is for opinions to shift even in the Tory party I'm do you think a tragedy like that would? Would change minds. And for you know and and. Maybe in the short term. Yet with us, the programmer does it usually has two weeks, three weeks effect, and then things reset back to normal and at the time I mean during the cody thing. Victor Rubin at the time. Seemed like an anomaly right just days. Afterwards he was doing speech. This is an invasion we're being invaded. Go to stand up. Everyone's got mad took manage care about children. And the time he seemed like this monstrous kind of Disney. and. Then the whole of the continent essentially just pivoted to his point of view including countries. Germany might have had a very good policy about people coming in but behind closed doors was doing deals with other wine was doing deals with the Libyans which essentially trapping people in camps. Where they were tortured and they will kill it. So I mean there's no, it doesn't feel to me not the compassionate response loss balloon enough but also what you WanNa do you WanNa start getting to that point in the first place? The thing is that the boats are notable. We had this flow for reading time we have a sort of semi regular, pretty moderate flow of people trying to come here. Come for a bunch of different reasons. Some of these they just I mean in a another cases when you see the reports were that do the interviews with guys encountered in Calais the jungle and stuff they just think Of Opportunity. They actually believed the stuff that they've seen on TV and the people have told the nationally believe in the country in other cases that naming was saying it's because they know someone and you gotta think right. When you've been through a war your whole life is shattered like very often there is just one or two people in the world that you even know anymore or at least the inner where they are. If you happen to know the one of them's in Bristol, you'll things to get to Bristol. That's your only chance rebuilding that isn't just about work. You know it's not just it's about being with you. You actually know possibly the last person on earth that you actually know at this stage. So they're gonNA try and come we've had that flow to regularly predominantly use lorries coming over from the channel. The reason that stopped his because of covid. So one of these numbers would have been there anyway just some of it has shift towards boats is partly of the weather conditions. That's the only thing that's changed and we're really ending up discussing is the fact that Faraj has managed to turn that into a coach award that infects the mainstream. GIBBERING on about this shit for fucking months before Principato decided to adopt it. That's all that's changed is not the situation the objective situation really what's changed that he once again got into the mainstream Buck an episode one hundred, we discussed the independent fateful flip to numbers. Vice include criminally overrides it as ruining chances of getting remaining expert card. This was back in one thousand, nine, hundred Brexit competing twenty nine days way amendments rattling through the comments. With. You arrive in nineteen features now even more predictable would giving ago. Anyway. A regular speech something they think will be a big issue in years to come. Rosenstock with you the future public protests. I. Think when Look Back at twenty twenty and we tried think new story that didn't involve covid nineteen There's GonNa be one thing that springs to mind and that's The statue of Colston toppling into the even in Bristol. Bristol It was really effective and he got black lives matter talked about in the mainstream without violence s you can't valley tonight get statues which I don't. Consider Violence with a relatively small number of people involved, and then we look back at the huge marches against Brecca over the past four years the least a million people in London and other cities also peaceful protest and you've got to ask yourself and it's a really hard question to us because I think all of us went on those marches nomi ratchet helped organize them. Why did we achieve so little from those marches? Clear about what we wanted to stop brexit or a second referendum but we didn't change minds and if you look back at the Anti Iraq war protests in the Faculty of the pro. Fox. Hunting marches also had clear aims and will site fact, and what does that tell us? It tells us i. think that's successful. Protests are usually about asking for something. mightly they need to shock the casual observer after receptions. And that was what we found to do. Maybe it was always going to be difficult with Brexit but we didn't shock people into starting a conversation with gophers the symbolic. A lot of US went out on a slow Walker. We felt a bit less alert. We reinforced our identity, which is not a small matter, but didn't achieve what we wanted. So as we move into a period of very high unemployment that will hurt the youngest most even as house prices go up again. We tell kids raising great them without even having been able to take the exams that we told them was so important. And a younger generation is emerging is going to be even more painfully aware than ever how much they've been screwed over by older people that need to ask themselves what is going to get those older people's attention and I think that will be the moment of which power starts to move from an elderly demographic, which currently runs politics to a younger one. And do you think that there will be particular issues become flashpoints, protests or is it? Is it going to be? They've mainly speak? OF ANTI GOVERNMENT UNREST Related to recession or do you think it's going to be kind of quite low competing ones and that might be matter steel that might be climate you know they'll actually quite a lot of different specific parts. I'll think they'll have a common thread which will be younger people failing that their futures have you taken away from them whether that's because of climate change or whether it's because of unemployment. or any of the other things that way inflicting upon younger generation lack of housing that kind of thing. That will be the common thread that runs through them Alexandria. You'd think the notion of smart cities. Please explain them. Basically. There's a lot of this already happening in a small scale You know we tell our home to turn the heat on or is us. Inapt to tell you. Whether he's missed the bus in, you now need to walk to the train station because that's your foster return. We use an nap to order a call to take for me to make. Restaurant reservations. And as that develops and. Wireless Internet becomes faster and more prevalent than I'm centers and. Receptors basically become more sophisticated in. In things around us it will become more and more the case that we're living in an urban environment that you can be informed about in real time and that in a way at molds itself around you I think we're very far from advertising and being. Targeted specifically at the people who are woking pasta billboard at any particular moment at. and. When you combine that with with the advances in Niro, science, you know where you're already getting the early stages of corticospinal to computer interfaces you know you already have. Who can move in an extra scancen just by thinking about moving and you have interfaces allow people with sight impairments is sort of vision people with hearing impairments is sort of hearing and so I think we're close to time. I would say, maybe twenty years away from a time when the city around you in a way we'd you wishes and can adapt to what you want to do and and where do we see signs of this nightmarish to soap here at the moment. I don't think it isn't nightmarish disturbing you know I. I know it's it's easy for an or Willian. To reach for that but. It look. Actually we are. Ready hooked into our devices. We are all constantly on Athens as such things ordering things looking for routes looking for reservations. This would simply free our hands in the lousy allow us to race relied. So I think it's actually A. Step forward from where we are at the moment where we have really insecure enclosed in your mobile device. And when people that smart cities usually thinking most of Africa by. LONDON TIRES CISCO We're talking about you know towns. Industrial. Towns being most risking rarely wear a lot of the kind of You know this is where some negative developments is being driven by spaces being left behind. Do you think that you know when the famous quote futures already here it's just unevenly distributed. On, is there a danger that you will just have? These kind of small super cities and then the coin of. Neglected towns where adverts dressy passively with the there's a danger the. Danger it's almost a certainty. This will happen I. Mean you see it everyone refers to London as the an the African which of the country but you see within London you saved within my neighbor. You know I can walk a few blocks down and tell you exactly up to which St. Sort of gentrification as reached. A it's sort of creeping from corner to Koon And then you woke five minutes the other way, and suddenly you're in a bit with the police refused to go and call outs I'm so. Yes. But again, that's a more general point about addressing inequality and addressing the Neva. -Ness of a you know where and how we spend money as a as a society. It's not. It's not an argument for stopping technological progress from happening because. Even if it is at a at a lesser to unnecessary extended these helpful to everyone, it is when I go to more town where I've never been before where I am most reliant on my mobile device for you know, how do I get to my Airbnb Where do I eat you know what I'm touring? It's actually those places where I find. The. Being able to get live information on a place most useful. WHO Story in screen. You think we should keep an eye on that. She is institutional resistance to nationalism. Please expand. Indeed, it sounds very exciting. Doesn't it? To the to the last few years and what we've really been seeing is. The sort of basic structure of liberal democratic society stopped to shake under force of governments that basically take on power. Now, this way back, the idea that you split power, you separate it out the put it in different positions in order to try to restrain the most powerful people most powerful people typically the government and we do this good variety of ways. Right we usually do it by cutting up the legislature in a bicameral parliament, we do it by. The courts we do it by journalism. We even do it by NGOs. and. International organizations and if you look across the scale wherever you look with you, Victor Oban, if you look at Salvini in Italy. If you look in. Poland trump up brexit. In every case every single fucking case they attack the institutions that the domestic institutions, the courts journalists. And they attacked the international ones, the EU, the WTO, the court the WTO is not basically has ceased to function because of trump's attacks. You see the same thing with Salvini attack in the using thing with ban attack in the EU, it's not just a British thing. And in different countries, you get different levels of resistance of institutional resistance. So in Hungary. Obama pretty much just managed to wipe them way he created a sort of shadow state united to purge most of the judiciary managed to purge most of independent journalism created these absurdly titles government NGOs in other words government non government organization because he's a very literate sucker and ninety two in that way should've overshadow the entire structure. Now, What's interesting to me is the in Britain and in America they've managed to hold firm better put have much longer heritage have a bit more resilient. Now we oversee saw that in the article fifty court case sort again in. The Supreme Court case and which in itself was about the prorogation of parliament and other institutions and they held firm in the US similar things when when trump went off the when he went off to people who escaped from natural disasters and had a right send us for that reason I mean that was a plan deportation of eight hundred thousand people that was a plant that was going to be one of the largest deportation projects. In American, history that was stopped by the courts when it came to the jewelry is the of young children predominantly from Mexico About to Latin America went over to the US when they're very, very good for by parents and the now much older. Again, that was stopped by the courts when it came to family separation again, that was stopped by the courts, the courts, how firm and the thing to look out for to me. When you look at these different countries, I mean Eunuch opponent in the future where it's unlikely that that we to. Stand firm in the same way, one of the main factors you're looking at is, can the institutions hold fund against the so they're hard to. It's hard to feel about this great moment of rebellion, right? Because you know stuffy, it's an institution, but ultimately, they remain one of the most radical propositions in political theory, the separation of powers and the extent to which that survive will be absolutely crucial in the next few years. In America and in Britain even though they have hog right governments, we have a gunman. Still playing the left controls, every institution Sam Great May but I mean how much does that in Trying to assign a certain position to institutions, for example, tearing the brexit process and some judges did something the brakes didn't lie. You know they. They were. They came idealogues they must see remain as they must be lefties often. Electoral Law. So is it kind of state to convince juices? As having sort of political. Valence. With the thing is that they do it's just that that is the Foundation Barn Cra Society Right? I mean they do you know if if you have a totalitarian in a room and you have a Democrat Liberal Democrat in. One of their disagreements will be should power be So, it is obviously a political point. It's just. Is. It's a political opinion that power should be separated. It's just the we kind of assumed that. Everyone agreed we wanted to live in a free society and that separating powers is absolutely crucial to creating the free society. So now when you get these guys saying, well, they're rule you know lefty liberals right as. They they. Do with right and left. But yes, they're liberal in so far as ask subscribing to the values that have been entrenched in this country and across the West for the last four, hundred years and that, and it should not be a bone of contention. The fact that you think it is just shows how badly these guys are just drifting into authoritarianism that that should be an way controversial proposition. Funding to think that there is A. A demographic. Dimension to the future nationalist. If you look obviously the in Britain, if you look at the voting habits of young people and just the pins of young people versus people it seems like you're GonNa sort of age out of of of this particular moment and yet if you look at some other countries, well, you know what you're doing. Well, they do have a fair amount of support among young people. But I mean. How much can you bank on today's so too young cosmopolitan liberals or radicals. Remaining. Life that I say. H. Yeh this leads. So in the literature, there's quite a lot about this. It's actually like a major point of dispute I'm between those who think that they would shift in other words. You know where they follow that Ocho thing of you know you start getting a new right-wing as you get older all actually is it more like Like you know what your favorite album for most people, it's GonNa. They're gonNA pick an album from when they were sixteen seventeen years old because that's the food if period where many of your tastes just based and there's another school that says, well, actually for Lord of these guys that is this is that it's a disfluent of minutes a worldview that's formed much openness much for international and that no one knows the answer to that question most Steve, but it's signs towards the second of saying. Like. This stuff is a proper welby property cemented and how they are at the moment we don't know and a low hinge on that, and of course, a lot looser hinge on the kind of problems, the struggles that they face and the people that offer solutions to. Then when you get into a situation where you have very high youth unemployment that might make people thinking ways, they otherwise wouldn't think. So the answer of course as it is to questions, this fucking is I do not. Find. So nothing in. I. I'm not sure you'll. You'll trial period where now. Trial. Maybe. You've got the big one climate change even grades appliances waiting in the wings currently going on in the background. Have Nineteen is settled. Are. We going to have to focus on in particular. Well look. We have to focus on the enormity because we don't have a choice. On, we have to ensure the every political. An economic decision gets made through the Lens of climate catastrophe I. Mean for God's sake. I am sat here sweating my ass off recording show in London after a week straight of plus thirty four degrees. Celsius. Whether with no rain I'm all climate is breaking down are sea levels arising because polar ice caps are melting fires raging out of control turning ancient forests into ush the frequency and magnitude of storms is increasing even more more death and destruction behind it. Drought means we'll shortages leaving crops and animals and people thirsty a millions of species are at risk of extinction. Frankly, it includes US unnoticed issue plastics. We've seen as massive spike globally as countries all over the world reporting understandably big rises in plastic base. P p. e.. Takeaway Boxes Online shopping packaging because of covid and our oceans are going to be suffering two centuries to come as a consequence. So what needs to happen? Well, over the past year, you know the geopolitical vote lines have opened up to far more dangerous levels. The we recently experienced making International Corporation very, very difficult in what is this key decade? You'll remember that the UN's. governmental panel on Climate Change warned that we have just ten years left. So global warming to be kept to a maximum of one half degree Celsius beyond which even half a degree will significantly worse than the risk of drought floods, extreme heat hundreds of millions of people and you know if you're somebody who's worried about. A couple of thousand refugees coming across the channel this year just you wait until many parts of the southern hemisphere become. So uninhabitable, you're going to get the mass migration of thirsty hungry poetry stricken people trying to get to a to a climate that is still bearable for humans. So without any shadow of doubt dealing with Climate Change House to be the issue prioritize because unless we do nothing else matters not nothing that anyone else at the top of the shows talks about where my. As as choices, freedoms will be curtailed evermore as water food and energy have to be rationed. On the hope is that the trillions being spent on covert recovery at the moment are going to be spent on a green transition because that really is where the fight is. Now an e used green recovery. Dale is a really really good start. They've seen yet comic pain caused by Soviet as a use it or lose it moment that crasing within a million green jobs in spending ninety, one, billion a year for home energy efficiency programs green he. Saying, twenty billion on clean 'cause introducing a million two million. Thank more charging points for electric cars spending up to sixty billion on zero emissions, trains CETERA and UK Green Recovery Plan I'm afraid to say falls quite short of this you Katie Green stimulus equates to about one hundred dollars per person by comparison. France is comes in at nearly three hundred per person Germany's three, hundred, eighty nine and Denmark's at seven hundred, seventy, six dollars per person so. The point is there. Now it's about all of the stuff we champion as international about you know we are. We are stronger together when we work across borders when we work into governmentally through multilateral organizations. On. An and this once in a lifetime opportunity with the situation coming out with Keva to radically transform a how we how we use the results were think governments including conservative on generally small state governments behave in very radical interventions ways to grow up. To some extent. During the pandemic. I mean does this make it harder in the same way that it means that you can't use the magic money tree line anymore? Does it make it harder to sort of excuse, the lack halls. Massive you know radical assets to to confront climate change. It's just like you know if here's a crisis is however responding obviously some country, another's. But does it therefore say, well, look, this is what can be done in an emergency. The climate crisis is emergency. Absolutely. On I suppose you know the big of flying we've got at the moment is trump. And whether or not, he's going to win the election later this year if you remember just to. An in. His election was just days after the Paris climate agreement entered into force. On the, you know the fact that came in just as he got elected, this is both tragic and absurd because you know he campaigned on a promise to council that accord An- It's led to look people asking. Can we still stop climate change without the US being involved and getting on board and I'm no expert but the consensus seems to be the every country was to walk back from the Paris accord them. We're absolutely fucked models of suggested that the probability of a staying below that to degree threshold with from about. Tempest. Summit, will be taking place. On trump. Exactly. But. China's Xi. Jinping pledged at Davos, this year to stay signed up to the Paris to Code and encouraged to do so and of course, the US is quite federal and some states are very committed to climate change reduction as are a great many businesses and individuals. So you know I just don't think we can have a things that our actions alone con change things because you know addict trump is is is trying to get the US corporately, not just sign up to it. You know we all will need to to make changes in our own lives to to achieve us. Say. We've mentioned. Trump a few times during the show. Already, you wanted to discuss the election of Joe Biden and what that could mean for Britain British Politics Commute Times the other week said few compete word harder than Britain please president trump giant waste of time. And so while other countries will be. Delighted. To see the back of the toddler might be more ambivalent from sympathetic to the idea writes it actually old practical Details Britain's actual trades. Amman's while volume has spring sent clauses pointing apprehensive is Irish Catholic roots To be little tougher when you as interest in sex with alands. Titles outbreak government has no personal connections with Biden because. Like the long-term reasons but also they can't embed anybody, which is what? You'd normally do they have somebody in the campaign is really know what they're gonNa do outside his house. But Tim Shipment. Sunday's quakes. Government abides a single biden. President make things much easier and I do think that's true. Dancing Burlington is a grudge holding I think you'll understand why Britain had signed. you know trying on trump stood side if such a thing exists and Johnson is enough of opportunities to suck up like. So I'm optimistic that it will be better. Slightly you better deal but just a better relationship anyway, and also said that the basis for the special relationship such as it is on the by would be. United on things like human rights and Russia. So there's actually going to be a a real incentive to do the right thing that you know imagine if if what you trade also helps you sleep at night and maybe. Save. People's lives and I think it's it's obviously it's been such shameful period for for American. Trump is also agree shameful for Britain nobody was proud. Of Raj when you know when trump visited nobis crowd decline of you know. Refusal. To slow to criticize criticized in at trump as we've seen not only doesn't care about which he doesn't care about Americans doing. So Song says things better. I'm I'm what? About? Kamala Harris I mean it's not. We now know it's not just Biden and he has chosen his running mate. Do you think that makes it an another difference to us here on the moderate left of British politics? Specifically about moderate left I mean, I. Think the a reversal populism in America victory Biden Camera? Harrods. She was a You know he's is much younger. big and suits of Boyden is very much a product of the American, the old American political establishment. was think seems to I. Find some sort of relatable if you know to this little, which is sent to left the white she is to south away that she told. Me Can only be good thing they do. They do have an effect. You know what happens in one country. Another brexit you know had certainly helped. Inspire you know from. and it did seem like you get to those things together and it feels like this being real you know global reversal. And so just have You know Democrat in the white. House again. Season surely would put little bit lead in the Pencil of labor, even though obviously one thing doesn't follow from another, but it certainly con cuts have somebody sympathetic to like that. So. Do you think that you know by basically basically tying themselves with each of a you know a breaks it in the right generally in Europe northbound. But by all those people linking themselves closely, there's a danger for the right. What if trump is it will be like assertive dominates when see sort of an expense what you? Say Important or whatever that put a movement seems very, very strong but if you look at like Brazil and how badly both narrow Fox if you look at America, you know you don't seem like a moment of real weakness and you know it's It's Not, going to reverse braid set believes going to take away with Axel Swaggart Win Win Steve Bannon you let the way out and he was only the world to sort of. None of this into anything promising the used. Populist governments in office across the world. And that didn't happen. But you know that was a real sense of there is a movement. This is the next way I members anywhere you know is anyone Crombie, the pan? Oh actually no, it's not. It's unstoppable way. and I think that you know because America's so influential. I think defeat trump. Would have very positive ramification ramifications elsewhere even if it's not gonna be able to sort of robot. Happened last for years. Hello, it's through. Harrison the producer here. If you like Romania Exit, you will love the bunker everyone stay. There are maniacs, Regulus plus new guests get together for no-holds-barred political roundtable on anything everything except Brexit, what we are living through go majoring competence is a season of utter insanity in Lunacy in the United States on Mondays Tuesdays Thursdays and Fridays. That's the Pumpkin daily with one-to-ones and explain this of everything from the economy to the arts culture are even food lion's extravagant about the never wasteful. That's like we have to create kind gentler world where everyone has the facing decencies of live. That's the bunker with all your favorites from remaining ex ample get it wherever you get your podcast. Finally this week, we take a look back at juilliard former selves with a full of oats and Schulte. Coutts as we pick out some favorite moments in the last two hundred counting episodes Romanians. I'll fast this clip focused pootie downside, which is library on the ninth of July Twenty Eighteen Day David Davis Unborn Johnson resigned from the cabinet every tweets times an inconveniently and they didn't do it didn't sink Tom. And I made special arrangements to to meet here and record a special edition about the resignation of Davis, which would justify it was excellent. However, you will never hear it. Because Boris. Johnson. He explicitly said in the punk house you'll never hear should not resign until Wednesday morning just before we record has just resigns. Let's take a moment to done sturgis. WHO's the British. Citizen who died last night from Nova choke poisoning from the nerve agent Russia used and so as. The foreign secretary has been hidden in fucking room today. Consulting with advisers nor on his principles with Brexit, we'll be obscene enough as it is given the severity of what took place overnight on basically how his career pans out. That is a low point for what it's supposed to be great office of State for what is still a great country. He's been an abomination in the road and useful sign of just how profoundly degraded the standards of British politics become that he could even find himself in. It let alone be allowed to continue in it without being sat and going his own accord on. The first, Time Action Fool. Not, just this like she'll allow weekly sow on. Most exciting episode what's your favorite? To me the most Cathartic moment during the cost was the day after the general election last year and I I actually met in during an under the day off to the two thousand seventeen general election, which was my first ever show and then hey, we were two and a half years later doing another post. I'm an and I met outside put Masters Towers and I just burst into tears on the street in front of him and he's of expertly whisked me into a neighboring pret-. GO A. White down my neck stiffened my resolve. This might remember that I managed to turn that into anger quite quickly, and on the show we recorded minutes. Later I vented my anger towards Liberal Democrats on labor. And it was the outpouring of support from our listeners after that, which made a horrible situation so much better. The messages by public and private really blew me away and I, think I'd always known that we bill is incredible. Community until then had never been quite so apparent, the show it's going to continue the fight will continue. The movement will continue. We've built something incredible not just three Romania expert. The entire remain movement is in such a better place than it was when we were fighting the referendum, we've not the majority of the creative industries on our side. We've got the tech industries on our side. We've got young people on our side. We will prevail it's a setback, but we should and can never take this for granted You know all of our. hard-won rights are not going to give up now, no one's going anywhere. I'm not going to do what the leaves did in seventy five and just sort of hang around moaning sidelines for twenty five years until things came back hallway we we're going to carry on. schedule. They never even bothered great amount of. For about twenty two, twenty years. So yeah, that's definitely IAN utilize recording. We few days off the bat episode less swear the IT's at why that why that like. That was a way I mean that was a strange night and like I think rules look at it with a slight trepidation and I spoke to. People, Brian you in the audience and one of them. Was? Honesty I just did a knife I even wanted to to come to this right now and it was. Just a bit shell shocked in a bit damaged ready. And then you just get to one of the light. Bentson. Things about costs right is the you. It is about having sense community but there isn't. You know what we do is we just talked we sit in a room usually, but now sitting in homes and we just talk. And you don't have that exchange live shows gave you that thing of seeing him being with people and usually them saying something funny and having that sense of togetherness. That feeling of you're not alone with this. You know you're not going nuts like. You. I mean that makes it sound. You're saying and everyone else has gone nuts doesn't sound fantastic basically making field window going crazy. And that Kinda came into its own on that on that night and I was. As I. Remember you know for Bunch of I hadn't seen you at that point number, but just sort of like we talked on each other resume. How you doing that? You know. And then getting into the room like it just felt like it went from this since the defeat to. Just having a tremendous sense of togetherness in that room on that night if like tremendously like wholesome an emotion important to amendment and like a sense of relief given the dispatch that was on the twenty twenties. Then what sort of major demographic or political event saying keep an eye out for? How to answer that question so I'm Gonna I'm gonNA wonder a different one. Thing is that we're trapped in an identity war and that's obviously what we're going to see over the next decade, we have to be able to participate in that conversation without accepting the terms of that compensation, and that's a distinction between the kind of identity. The someone freely chooses that is a love story where that's patriotism or something to do with your race or your sexuality or your gender on one side, and the one that is imposed on you by a quite authoritarian on either side of that going if you're. Gay You are ex-, if you're British, you must be the following things right wing an imbecile we have to fight that the straitjacket of identity and we fight it by having our own story about say, which is freedom enhancing, which is loves story that you find the parts of yourself that you choose to reflect on the meaning that you find it, and if we can find that conversation, we can have it if we can feed it, we've got a fighting chance, and if we don't, we're in a lot fucking trouble. I was really proud of that night because we saw I've seen since know you hear about in comedy shows or Gates when you talk about the energy in the room and you saw off and it could really go the way it's quite low and you can feel. The energy gathering throughout by the end you feel like You've actually done something. You've not really achieved something as opposed to just sort of turned out and done the job. You felt like you on stage. Everyone in the audience collectively had sought of. Lifted. US Out. Ourselves, off. When he wasn't a tool easy. All of his thing today. With. The names, of course that your secret trick for that is just to guzzle whiskey backstage before you go on. Best. Hard. Science. What's your favorite bit? Well, I feel rather silly because I've been for plenty bait. It was I. think it was a fuss week of the election campaign last origin and I was trying to describe the that I was trying to say that the case not even a minnow swimming with sharks or dissections tasty tuna the idea that The Tories were sort of sell off the NHS is potent labors and pushing that what's a reality there? What is actually meant but I mean literally going to sell off the NHS to. Donald Trump, I think the looks of substance because we are a minnow. So if you're trying to negotiate a trade deal with the largest economy in the world you've got to have signed to negotiate with and that is the priced asset that that we don't have a huge amount else. I will disagree on a slight point. We're not Amino. We're a two hour. Tasty Tuna. If we were a minnow, would would be off the Raider of what? Companies, but we are actually big enough to make a tasty meal, not small enough to ignore but not big enough to fight in a shot full of tanks. That's the point. Shark will of tanks. Finish out tank. Tank. Sounds like a small boy inventing a super wagon. It sounds like the Shark Naidu? Times And that sort of became running Jenkins begins toggle of episode if you Google shot for the taxes whole you get. Behind, him I kinda love that. Close, run thing with ends doritos lasagna I have to say because these things share a And it is the fact that throughout these two hundred episodes we have actually become. Really. Well, tuned to each other really good friends and we're like family now. But it's true because. That means that are running gags and you know and. All. Our listeners know what we're talking about certain. We've fooled this kind of shorthand of talking about things which I think. In in the live in Manchester show. What I accidentally said, Frank Frontman Soi on any of the politics. Apologize. Trump's fronts I do never be mentioned again. What I guess that's his name. Is. That's that's the thing. This idea of of continuity and cameraderie is i. think what is really wonderful about these podcasts like I said Tristram thing Mr Reaches. The base very memorable in running. But unlike the reaches lasagna. Shop for tanks is. An awesome idea. Thought, you were going to say unlike this on your shot for of tanks is edible. Only rose your favorite bits. His is a very special moment. Yes. I was actually going to go for British fish or more accurately fucking were. Already had shocks and in any case the original. Time they the first appearance fucking Bush's fish on the podcast is now. Outdated because it looks as though, but she fish will actually exists. Forget one agreement. As a result. 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That's a shame she whispered I heard something about from each according to their ability to each according to their needs. You have needs replied coyly. Maybe they can be met with a long extension. Down, have you ever thought about an ever closer union? I'm so glad that we recorded before deep fake porn was accessible to. You it was bad enough. But can you imagine? Do you remember that I had to read that in front of really quite serious? Journalists maybe. I think. I think Rachel. Shelby was our guest that day and I found so incredibly shelf coggins. Yet, she wants she wants thinking less you could say she. Was a series. Let's go home. Get me my age. That reading brings us to the climax about two hundred. Back in twenty cents, we didn't have the time capsule all the bridge. We asked our guests before a militant stole this phrase what they reasons to be cheerful way. So I'M GONNA ask each of my beloved co hosts how they stay in Seattle in. This sort of fitting isn't it but? 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Comeback Kids with Barbie Blank & Jonathan Lipnicki

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Comeback Kids with Barbie Blank & Jonathan Lipnicki

"Action park media f out from banner to vegas and everywhere in between. It's time to party shake. This is dan again. And now here's your host sheena. Everyone welcome back. It's houston and again as we mentioned last week. We have the comeback kids and another podcast here at action park media we've got barbie blank and jonathan lived nikki in the house smith jamie lynn. How's everyone doing great. So jonathan and i go back eight years now and i feel like i haven't seen you in so long there's so many people haven't seen in forever but now mike seven and a half months pregnant it's crazy. I'm so i'm so happy for you. You're someone who will always sticks out in my memory as someone. I will always have so much love for. Because i was doing this small small play and i was really proud of the work i was doing in it. And it's hard to get people to see like plays in. La and sheena brought lake a crew like supported me and it was like the nicest thing actions speak louder than words with people you know. Everyone always says they're going to go. Support you receive your thing. But she really did and she brought a lot of people. Yeah how did you guys. I love doing that stuff. Cruiser. we're at an event. it was i was there were shea okay. And he recognized. Jonathan was like fan boyne. And he's like. Oh my god. He's like we have to go meet him and i was like ok. Sure we went over and said hi and then just kind of hit it off and became friends and eight years later. Yeah yeah. Do you get recognized often. Like i don't know how that works with people who got fame early on as a child and then they grow up. It's like can people obviously still recognize you. I guess you know it's weird. Because i like go forever without that being a thing and then like in a span of a week it will be like every day multiple times a day. It depends. My hair's a little longer. And i'm like clean-shaven i feel like it happens more but it's like to me like if i if i was viewer and i saw me as a little kid. I would never recognize me today. So i don't get it at all. I think that people you know have such a good memories with that or can put things together. Because for me like i never put that together shaded. I know right away. I think it was stuart. Little two. it wasn't like oh. That's the kid from jerry maguire. Who out of like other child actors. Were you friends with back in the ninety s world. Now i'm friends with like more. I'd say like i don't like like super cool dude. I met devin. Saw what through jujitsu i got to We didn't know each other were actors and then we start talking. And he's like he's like. I'm canadian and i'm like i'm a dual citizen of canada. And he's like oh. I act and i'm like i do too. And then we realized we had like yeah and like he's super cool. Dude mara wilson like I think what was like twenty one or twenty two and she's super awesome growing up. Though i like i played brothers with haley joel on a tv series so like i knew him and he was gray and then Like spencer breslin from the kid. You know. I've run into him here and there but the you know friends with him growing up but like not so so many because i went to public school the whole time so like the people i hung out with kids like in the neighborhood. Yeah how was that going to public school. I know you like suffered with a lot of anxiety and ended up having to be medicated. For it. But i can't imagine being like a famous kid and then going to public school at the same time. Yeah it's it's hard in the middle schools way worse than highschool hated middle. It's funny we make all these movies about high school. Think middle schools like the tragedy worse years of my life. I've failure i. I was coming off a really high point in my life. Where i had like mike in stuart. Little two bolt came out that summer. I was feeling really good career wise. I was really excited to make friends and because different schools fed into that middle. School wasn't just the kids. I went to elementary school with. There was kind of like a period adjustment period. Where people didn't know what to make of me and i it was kind of like whoa. You did this and so people just crowded around me and like it was okay for a second and then it became kinda like. Oh you think you're better than us. And like i i never did like. I've really solid parents. Who would you know not ever let me get that way but it is something that stuck with me for such a long time that into my twenties now now. Now i'm thirty. There's baggage from that debt. I've had to work with you. Know that is like first of all not worrying about everybody having a like me because it's like you know what you can only be responsible for your own feelings in your own how you treat people and it's like i try my best. I really do you know me. Like i'm a pretty easy going person. But it's like you carry that because like the wanting to be you know wanting to be liked is a child star thing too. Because you're like you know from likable. I get jobs and then also there's the fact of wanting to make friends and it's like you combine those two things and it's kind of a recipe for like a little bit of a disaster later when you're like. Oh you know all these people didn't like me and you become a little. Like i feel like i become overcautious. Where like i'm like are people making fun of me. And i felt like shit on so much in my life. That's something that's like. I've made a lot of growth within the last few years but just being like you know overly sensitive because there was a point in my life where it was like i was shown on every day. What was school. Like for you barbie. We like the popular girl so cliche to yeah by junior high like i got bullied a lot junior high to same for me like i went to an all christian middle school a private christian school and i hated it. I was miserable. i just was like mom. I really want to go to public school. And nobody like everybody was really mean And finally in tenth grade. She was like okay. You can go to the public school. So i had the time of my life my tenth eleventh and twelfth grade years where the time i loved high school high school at the time i hated high school. I'm opposite so. I did all the cheerleading and stuff in middle school so that was fun. But then high school i became. You know my self on black hair i had. I had every hair color you can imagine. I had an eyebrow ring like i hardly i had a phase when all i would listen to rap music so high school was not fun for me but it definitely hardened me like helped me kind of like get through everything else leader in life. Yeah so the barbie. I was opposite. I went to public school up until eighth grade and it was so bad that my parents forced me into catholic school for high school really and that was the best decision ever and now like i know i definitely want my daughter and future kids to to private school because just the uniforms alone i was like. I'm not wearing those uniforms like. I showed up the first day of high school in like the dickie pants with a polo shirt tucked in. Because i was just so like zeus and it just. I was like not wearing those skirts. And i saw how cute all of the other girls were and their skirts and it was like oh. It's like clueless uniforms. And then i ended up loving it. Mike what you only have to worry about what shoes to wear. You're getting judged on the clothes that would be so nice. I beg to go to private school and my my mom wouldn't let me because she had gone to private school and had a terrible experience there. So i i think the bottom line is high. School is just hard no matter what type of school you're in. It's it's usually hard though. Who are y'all childhood. Crushes like in the ninety s miners. Jonathan taylor thomas same. Yeah yeah funny. Because i did work. I did a movie with devon and it was like full circle. i remember meeting him onset. Okay just hold it in. Just don't say anything stupid or crazy and donald fan girl. So it's nice to be you and i was like i was such a fan and i let it out like for thanks barbies. Like he's a big wrestling fan too so that was really cool because he was like i love you know watching wrestle and stuff and that's great. That is jonathan taylor. Thomas no yeah from cows nation. Saw that i was just thinking of that movie today on my on my on my drive here there. Was this like pickup truck. And the everything else stuffed in the back. But i'm like i can't because of this move is still can't drive behind. That has anything hanging out the back of yeah like i'm going to get impaled what i think. Apparently in one of them there was like a thing with like acupuncture needles. I don't remember which movie it was. But when i started getting acupuncture regularly they're like haven't you seen final destination like the needles are not like that. You don't just like the fall stabbed with a bunch of needles at all. I thought that lake there the tanning bed one beds all the time and i was like. Oh my god that totally him. Somebody to come in and doesn't wrap a thing around it and then you're out there and you get burned to death like on. I know what you did last summer. She gets locked in there but then they save her. Yeah so you guys both have a podcast here at action park media. How's that going for you guys. And how did you meet. Tell us all about it So we met at a comecon like an autograph convention and we were both there signing autographs and we ended up talking kind of on the way home. We were next to each other on the plane and we realize we in a really cool kind of phase of our life where we were transitioning into different different things. You know for me. Trying to find kind of my footing as an actor as an adult and barbie post wrestling and we talked a lot about you know. She was talking a lot about how she is so grateful for the fans. She has from her past and she wants to bring him on the journey and future in. I was talking about the same thing. And we're like you know it'd be really cool podcast for us going along our own journey but also bringing on people who are doing the same so you're falling us in real time our journey you know finding whatever we're doing next and bringing on people who have done stuff in you know either. How a major comeback or found success in something. They're passionate about. After years of of failures. I love that. I love that. And you know podcasts for me. The reason i got into listening to podcasts was after my father passed away. And i was on planes a lot going back to my home state of new jersey and i was just like i need something to help me get over this and like. That's how i found like different podcasts. Blake about people getting through grief. And so i love your idea of of your podcast. Because a comeback can be not just you know from work or career could be through loss heartbreaker anything like that. So i love. I love that idea. I mean that's i think major blessing about doing this as we brought in some people that and i hope for this and i'm so glad it's been happening. We brought in a lot of people that have. It's made my day to talk to them about their journey. Because i've learned so much from the people we've had in and it's there's so much negativity in the world right now and so much. People are so angry about so many different things that i would love to provide that for somebody because i feel exactly the same way you do when i was going through a really tough time in my life. Podcasts audiobooks those are the things that got me through. And i was like you know if i could affect one person in that positive way then. That's everything to me. Yeah we were listening to. Y'all's i show yesterday i listen to it and there were a lot of things that you said that really resonated with me just like. That's why i do. What i do and i am so vulnerable and i put it all out there because i'm like if i can just help one person i'm doing my job and i mean i know you jonathan and then just from listening to your podcast it just sounded like you're the exact same way or you're just so thankful for the fans and all of that. 'cause it's like if you don't have that you know it's just yeah. It was great. So i love hearing about you kill. I mean yeah. I think when we came up with the idea i had just lost my dad to you and i was going through a very public break up on a reality show and so i was going through all these things and i had left. Wwe and i had no idea what i wanted to do. Next and jonathan was like all right you know and he was talking about what he had going on and he was like. This is such a great idea of her. Podcast and i think we talked about it for at least a year. We had shopped around with it So it's been about two almost two years it's finally into fruition. It's been really exciting. Weddings died how did you end up here. At eight pm. We both knew having like individually and then we had a friend of yours Brian kind of made the meetings. But i met kevin a longtime ago because he shot he's directing these like american eagle ads. That were i was i was in. I was like. I think. Sixteen years old and i was in one of them and he was just such a nice dude and then i would run into him here and there you know. I ran into him the last time i ran into him before we ended up doing this and it was before i even knew he had a podcast thing going on. I ran into him and he goes. I love your instagram stories. This is the first thing he said. I know all about your life was like okay man. That's all so who would you say has been your favorite interview so far or just like someone who's told like a really good story on your podcast for me. I feel so. I had a my girlfriend who was a wrestler candice michelle. She came on and she was just i. I knew her story and i was friends with her. When i wrestled but i didn't know how she came to to become a wrestler. I had no idea her past. I didn't know all the trials and tribulations. She kind of went through So it was. She's so inspiring and she's just so positive all the time So he just loved hearing all her all her stories. Yeah i like that when you have someone on who you know but then you learn something new about them totally. that's cool. Shoes really articulate to about everything she's overcome and being able to frame it like she had for for a wrestling match it how she was framing life and i thought that it was. It was definitely up there in my like top two for most inspiring like. I don't know if i would. Because i don't want to like pick people but zero so good the one the one that got me really pumped was julian. I'd say to besides her. We add my friend on who Is on nine one one lone star And he literally went from Making ends meet cutting grass at the rose bowl to being on the number one tv show and like that was so cool because i knew him before he was on the tv show. We have the say manager and this guy just had such an infectious like personality but also he knew his worth like he would he always said you know like i'm a series regular this is going to happen and the dude manifested at all. He wore he'd put in the hard work behind it but he always kept that positive attitude and it really has panned out for him and since he's gotten there he's continued to work extremely hard and he hasn't been resting on his laurels at all. And so like because it's you know fellow actress. Someone i knew before he kind of had his big break like it was a really cool thing to interview them and find out more about them. That's cool. i like that so for you. I was curious about this. Because and i have been talking about our daughter and if we would let her get into acting you as a child actor when you have kids if your kids wanted to get into acting would you let them. At a young age it depends on their attitude towards it. You know. I think that like a lot of times. We don't give kids credit for how intelligent they are. My parents did. And that's the thing is like listen. Life is full of stress. Yeah i had like stuff in middle school. That you know probably probably would have happened without acting. It was probably way worse because acting. Like i love what i do and if i spend my whole life doing the same thing in like still like yeah like sometimes it can. You can get down on yourself. I i got to find out what i wanna do for the rest of the my life when i was five years old and my parents listen to me when i said hey like. I don't really want to work right now. I wanna like do little league baseball. I did league baseball. It's all on the parents and it's also all in listening to your kid If they pursue that and you happen to be in you know l. a. which is a lot easier than moving family from texas l. a. or something I i think let them try it out but it should come from a place them wanting to do it but it's such a hard thing you know. kids you see it. Go both ways and it's it's kind of like a sore spot sauce spot. Because i think that people mess up you know and have things happen. That are wrong despite ever you know having any sort of career. So it's like we put this judgment on these people that we build them up to tear them down and it's like to take that as a kid. It is a hard thing. And i think despite all the the career stuff i think i would have definitely been anxious kid and had anxiety. My parents have anxiety like i. Don't think that any of these things are a direct cause of it. But i do think that like as far as the way my career was handled with my parents. I think it's the best possibly could have been and i'm really grateful for it. Other kid actors will say different things but like my experience with my parents. I think it's like ninety percent on the parents. And i really think that's what it comes down to. But yeah if i if the kid wanted to really pursue it and do it the right way. Why not you know. Yeah we were watching. A movie with dave battista. Call my spy. The little girl in is so cute and he's like do you think like our daughter might be like an actress and i'm like i mean if she wants to. I always wanted to. Since i was a kid. I just didn't get into it until way later in life until your mom helps you out. She told his story a couple of podcasts ago that her mom was managing an apartment building and desperate housewives filming across the street and she was like she not come to work with me today and then she would walk past the set and be like trying to get not and then the invited her on. Yeah just like to hang out on like an extra got into extra work and all that. And that's actually how i met. Kevin was being an extra entourage. Oh my god like two thousand seven crazy also think you coming from the background of knowing the positives and negatives that would benefit your kid as far as like like if you were someone who came out of not knowing anything about the business or knowing anything about positive attention in negative attention like it'd be a lot to learn but i think like you could definitely give the proper guidance because you know it's like i you know so far we did you know that you want it to be a wrestling superstars kid. It's so funny you know. I had no intentions of being a wrestler. Something i ever thought. Possible I used to watch with my dad when i was like thirteen fourteen. That was like our thing to do together. My mom despised it. She's like it's so violent. Oh my gosh. How could you let her watch it. So whenever she would you know i would be at his house he would let us watch it and But i stopped watching when i was like fifteen But i was always very active. And i always knew i wanted to be on tv. And i i loved putting on a show for people at a young age. My mom was like she has to be in front of the camera. Whenever she'd have her camera out. I was right. There like doing gymnastics or whatever. I could As far as just trying to be on camera. So i was always like a little ham. And i did gymnastics up until i was thirteen I wanted to get into the olympics which that dream you know slowly faded away after a while and then i got into competitive cheerleading and then i graduated from high school and i was going to college for broadcast journalism. And i was doing a hawaiian tropics soon. Bikini modelling lodden comment. And i find it a kid but i also went to school for broadcast. Journalism h- here my list. So it's funny. I started doing the hawaiian tropics and we were doing bikini contests in florida. There's a swimsuit company called venus swimwear. Yeah and i did their catalog and my manager. They had seen my picture because this at the point in time it was like probably two thousand and six. They were looking for models that they could train trestle and so they were like looking at models in florida and they like i said they saw my picture and they call my manager and he called me. He's like hey. I have a weird requests like. Would you ever want to be a wrestler. And i was like. Oh i mean yeah. I'll talk to my parents and see like you know what what they think they were like. Well off your your trial. It's in atlanta. Georgia is where the training facility is. And i talked to my family and they were. They were supportive. They're like college always be there Try it out. So i tried out. And they hired me. Basically on the spot. And i had to move to louisville kentucky nineteen and never lived on my own me and another girl from jacksonville. They hired where both nineteen years old. The youngest i was the youngest female wrestler ever. Wow nineteen and. I had no idea what i got myself into. I walked in training day and so the training like know in aaa baseball. It's like you have all these guys waiting to get called up to the big leagues rate. So that's kind of how. Wwe as you all are in this training facility and when they have a part for you on tv they'll call you or you know the producers and They'll say hey look we have a part you can. You know we're going to bring you up and a lot of these guys are probably hundred thou- point that have been there for years waiting to get called up and then here i am this little blond barbie you know. They're like this little bimbo. I get caught up in two weeks and they were every it was. I mean you have to have thick skin totally being in a male dominated business like what what was like back then though because like you said two thousand six. There's been such an evolution with the women's wrestling from then till now so was it. I mean it had to be different back then. Right a very different I told a story on our podcast. One time when i was there i had gum put in my hair. I had i had guys in my drink. Lake guy put gum in your hair. Yes girl literally were at a meeting where somebody's speaking in the ring and we're all sitting there and i feel him. Put a piece of gum right here and my hoodie and i turned around and at that point. Because you're so nervous. You've i've been there for a week. I know nobody. You can't say anything because it's so like they're look at you. It's just like a hierarchy. it's a whole thing like act like tough. And so i just saw it. I literally walked into the locker room. I started crying. And i was just like there's nothing i just have to brush off. Brush it off and nod and it'll be fine so i ended up being good friends with this guy years later and he admitted it wasn't which wrestler edema believe. His name is the rock put gum in his hairline. You know. I thought about it. But i never did. I can't believe that that's something academy bitch redo guy like they're just you know these guys. They've spent their whole lives trying to get to that point and i get it in two weeks and it was just but now it's never in a million years. Could that ever have. Women have taken over and i love to see it i see women dominate in something that has been mostly male and When so when you were there though did were you. Part of that lake lucien. Almost did you see the change is happening. Yeah so i was there from two thousand six to two thousand thirteen. Fourteen and i literally saw the progression about like two thousand eleven. They were really putting more time into the women. We're weren't just like a popcorn break. When the you know the fan the audience would go to the bathroom They saw that we could put on a show and that people really wanted to see us. And when i left that was kind of when they were bringing in a bunch of new girls and they really were putting a lot of effort and time into them and giving them more time on like on tv we because we would only get maybe ten minutes. The guys get like forty five. So it's you know you're really fighting to to prove to everybody that you can be in a male dominated sport and prove them wrong. so i came back They did the first ever women's pay per view for just women so i they brought me back for that. I had been retired for years and to be there and be a part of that and just see the evolution of women. Kind of just taken over. The business was was really cool. Are you friends are in contact with any of the other divas. Yeah i talked to a lot of them actually I just went back a year ago. They had a Raw like reunion and it was all the girls when i was wrestling. They brought everybody back and it was really cool to see a lot of the girls and see the new girls too because they have a lot of amazing women there now so yeah we all still talk little girl group crazy so you were saying when i was listening to your podcast that you'd be on the road for like three hundred days three hundred days a year and often derive yourself to each at night. Almost two hundred miles. Imagine like wrestling and you know going out and being completely drained from an audience and then getting in your car and driving what two hundred miles stop yup. Why every night. Friday saturday sunday monday. Wow that is a commitment. But know i loved it and i wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for them and i just i loved everything about i mean i got to see the world at twenty years old and You know just being able to travel the world. Obviously that wasn't great having to get an a mini van and drive every night. But i met. I met so many great girls and we all traveled together. We just had so much fun. and it was like a family. So yeah i i used to watch was a total divas. Was that did that. Start after you left. Yes okay yes. So that started after i left when they were coming up with the concept the bella twins and me and another girl maurice. They were trying to bring back So us four. Were kind of in a an impact of like okay. If they get all of us great or they get none of us kind of thing but something ended up having we couldn't get the deal done and the twins went back and they've killed it. They've been killing it and it was so ironic. Because years later i was on the show wags and we aired right after total divas and it was kind of cool to see that you know how that transition own happened and tell. How was your experience doing reality. Would you do it again. i loved. I have blast. I feel like reality. It kind of gave me i. When i retired i was like what am i going to do next. I still want to do something. I still kinda wanna perform. And when the show approached me i was like oh this is a great way to like kind of show everybody the other side of me. Like the real me right. You're seeing the wrestler barbie and not real life so it was cool to bring people into kinda see that and i was just able to be myself and have fun with it because on reality obviously you know like they're not gonna if you're not a shady person. They're not they can't make you look like a shitty person like how to differ. There was moments with me that like it was like it was real and obviously i. There was probably time. I was wrong or right but ultimately i was happy with how i was portrayed because i would film for hours as you know. Yeah it's you know you're there you're sitting at a dinner for five hours and you haven't eaten there feeding you drinks and you're just like oh my god what are you need. I'll just give it to you. What do you want me to say but it gets. I enjoyed it. I really did. I had we had a great group of girls. All were pretty. Respectful of each other's kind of there was like subjects. It's like don't touch that and it's e was out like i'm keeping shit quite. Wow just think was rate experience ever do a reality. tv. Jonathan have wait. That's what was it they eat. Did i did a dating show in the uk right that we talked about that on my podcast. We'll celebs go dating. Oh my god yes so if you guys go back and listen to that's right but not a not a non dating show like a reality show. That's more like the type that arena done. I know. I don't. I don't know i mean that makes me so nervous so nervous with dating thing then i did also like a cooking show on the food network. Which worst cooks in america celebrity dish. And i got asked to do that. And it's really it's actually. You should do it where you learn a lot. That one was more. It's funny because the cooking can be stressful but that one was really really fun. The dating one i did. There's good and bad to it. You know A lot of times. It's like you know you get these opportunities one time and you got to think of like overall. Is this something that i want to. At that point in my life it was something that i was interested in trying I don't think at this point in my life I would but You know i. I'm grateful for the experience at brought me both good and bad. I learned a lot about myself from that. Is silly as it is from dating show and i learned a lot of what i wanted in a partner and now i have an amazing girlfriend so not from that show. I met a girl on that show. Who was great and we saw each other for awhile after but he just ended up not working out but it was. I mean there is. There's good and bad with with with everything. Yeah okay so tell me about penelope your girlfriend okay. Lp's a writer director. We met right before the pandemic. like kinda rytas. Who going down. Perfect timing i mean. Our first date was the socially distanced walk that ended up lasting like eight miles. I believe is a long time when you start talking. And she's very much similar to me in the sense that we both kind of we love our dogs. So now we have four together which is quite a household dog and you know just kind of career goals making our live smaller. Because there's you know. I think it's like you get to certain age you've been you know l. a. or entertainment long enough. We kinda wanna make your life smaller. And like i've been really i mean that's the one good thing about the quarantine is kind of forced us to but i realized how much like certain people matter to me and then a lot of people just are you know you gotta have your tribe you know. And so with her. She's really added to my life and really been a great person. Who's helped me grow a lot. I mean i'm just really really grateful that. Because i can't imagine what i'd be doing especially during this time period if i hadn't met her but i think i think that you know things happen at the right time and i've wanted to really good partner like this for a long time but you gotta meet some bozos to you know end up with someone someone you know who who's right or start even bozos i mean dating's a complicated thing and it's like i never want to be like. Oh well this person's that to someone else. It may mesh are crazies. Gotta work well with their crates and like crazy you know. And it's just what's a conducive situation to your mental health. You're physical health to you. You know being better as a person in like penelope for me meets all those things and more like you know. It's like it's hard when someone asks you okay. How's your partner. It's like such a weird question kinda field. Because you're like what i say against be here for five hours and talk about you know on but like it's just fit so right fight. Yeah okay. I'm ca- quarantine. You've been how the other person fights with you because you're always going to have disagreements right. Yeah speaking of jamie have you and your new bowl had how did i know. I just the way you asked that question okay. Yeah last night was her first fight. And i almost walked out dude. Update jamie dating life. And then we're going to get into by response eggs to help to know ask all about it No i'm going to make this really quick. I can't go into what it was about. But casey's listening no it's everyone x. Rated what is about. Oh jesus says something happens. And i got mad at him and i was like. That's it. I'm getting i'm leaving. I got fully dressed. I get up. I get my bag. I'm like i'm leaving. Don't look at me don't talk. Don't talk to me. don't touch me. Nothing and normally like that's my reaction to people when i'm dating them and they'll just let me go. He didn't let me leave. he's the first person and not that he likes physically stopped me but he said it in such a respectful way and like. Please sit down. Let's talk this through. I'm sorry. He apologized profusely. Must know what he did i to back to you for on it it is. There's no way to not make x. Ray okay we can. What did he do seriously yeah. I'm really curious now. i'm captivating. Pg as we look the great social club you can't you gotta cut it out bleep. It wow but we're cutting all of that. I wore the moral of the story is. He did not let me leave. And every other time. I've broken up with somebody. It was kind of like in that situation where they piss me off and i'm like i'm leaving and slammed the door and i leave and i never speak to them again. He fought with me the correct way and he had patients with me and he knew how to overcome it. That's a good a good i. I think you're fights are going to be fun. I okay well. That was a half update on. Jamie's dating life. Okay so far we. You met your fiancee joe. A part at the dog. Was it love at first sight. It was it really was he was standing there and i was just going through a break up and i was like i've been going to this dog park and play this and it's great. I have my little frenchie and my girlfriend had been telling me to go to the dog park. She was like girl. I she was washing my dog for the weekend. Just there's so many hot dudes in this dog park. You have to go. And i was like all right. I'll try. let's do it so she's asking for a friend asked him. Okay playa. this is where it's at it really is so he. I walked in. And i see his backs towards me so he's like six four tattooed. I'm like oh that's my guy right. I'm like okay. I got to see where his dogs are. So my he has a friend she too and he has american bully and they were all playing. Now's perfect excuse. I went up to him. And i was like like our dogs are playing together and we just started talking and it was funny because all i had told him was my name was barbie wrestler and we talked for a good forty five minutes and this girl walks in and she was meeting him. And i'm like all well. That's his girlfriend and i was like okay by you. Know nice meal. So i leave and i get home and i'm like dang like i'll never gonna see this guy again. What and then. I started on instagram. You know you could do like tagged places right. I was looking up job. Why stood only you can find anything. And i didn't and a few days go by and he sends me a dm on instagram. So many success stories. Yes three of us. Yeah wait in. Penelope slide in your. Dm's no we met on an app. Okay well all online successes really yes. I love la okay. So he found me because so it was funny. He who he was meeting was his best friend's girlfriend and they were like making amends like they had gotten in a fight or something like and anzac his best friend wanted them to like talk and Because their dog is sisters with his dog. So you know it's like a whole family thing right so they were meeting and she was telling her. Hey i just met this girl. And she's like. Let's look her up so a google me and and she was like you. Dm her and he's like no she'll never see it and then he ended up telling all the guys at the gym and they're like no man. You have no chance noman. no no. you're you know. Don't just save yourself the rejection right and shea. His best friend's girlfriend was like just do it. And just you know. At least you try. It and i was so excited. It's probably midnight. And i was checking my because then you you have all those to weed through like like to just see. Yeah interesting to read them. Yeah i never did until this past year. it was right around when i had a miscarriage. I started reading them because there were so many women reaching out and still continue to so now. I check them daily. Oh i never checked them before. But now it's just like it's like a special thing for me so i do see them often and i love that too. That's when i like because there's the five percent of like shitty people that are like saying then you have like ninety five percent of people that are like saying nice stuff or like you don't know companies reaching out or whatnot. So i saw joe cova. And i saw his picture and i was like oh yes accept accept and he said. Do you want to take our dogs to the dog. Park thursday at two o'clock and i said yes. I would love to island after that. We're insufferable my gosh engage our engage the wedding next month. Yes how is that with kovac. Oh girl it has been It's been rough. We got engaged a year ago and we started planning pretty quickly We found the date. And we're like okay. April ninth like everything has to be this year ago. Everything will be fine right. Oh my gosh. There was months like october where we are about to send out the invites. And i'm like. I don't know what to do like we're spending so much money on like just praying that this date happens. He's like it's gonna happen. We're gonna make it work. Promise babe amended. This is gonna happen. Like don't have any doubts. So i've just been planning like everything that's going to happen and luckily eh looks like it's gonna all work out so i know gosh a month from today. How can you give us any details. Are you able to do it in california or are you. So we're doing in california. We've found venue that's outside. It's like in the mountains outside. Pump springs and yucaipa view we. I wonder my cousin just got married at a place. Just like that and yucaipa. What was it called Maybe i don't helicopters the shoe. I will believe that. Yeah you found this huge and it's like so spread out and they figured out a way to make covid safe and obviously everybody getting tested and all that But we had to. We definitely had to cut the list down. And jonathan's coming with penelope we you know we wanted him by like two hundred obviously cannot offensive bitch. I that's why we're like a hundred you know we're so that's that's what we're gonna we're aiming for so i'm everybody like a lot of our families have already gotten the vaccines everything they feel. Good and so. Yeah everybody's excited and we will probably ever ever did pick that out himself. Yeah and he took forever with the with the jeweler the prongs and picking out like the perfect setting and he was like i was there for hours babe and he had the ring for months before he had in our closet. And i'm like how am i never during quarantine for four months. I'm like how do i never find that. He's like well. Hould unlike the shoe. And i must have really not have been trying to typically rifling through so he. He did everything and he surprised me. We went to we. Were going to go to bali and then obviously cove it and so we went to arizona and we went to the mountains up there and we went on a hike and he it was like a two mile hike and at one point i he had gotten me. I had drank a little wine before we were going up this mountain. I had no idea who is proposing anything right. So we're walking and i'm like i'm so tired like i just wanna turn around. I like i'm a buzz on. He's like no. We have to go get up this mountain. And i'm like why and he was adamant and i was like well. Lord he's about to like push off mountain. If i don't like he was literally no. You can't turn around. Like i'm fucking serious and i was like okay. All right. we're going so he had set up a photographer. Everything up there. And she was standing there and i thought she was a tourist. So we get up there and oh do you mean take your picture on the side of the mountain and all that so nice and we go out the edge and he gets down on win. How long were you dating before you got engaged a year two years now almost two years. Yeah okay but he said he knew after six months. Here's like what i couldn't all everybody was telling me. Weightier lady here give it. Just make sure everything is good So we have. You're more questions. She brought up wine but before we get into the wine. Let's take a quick break. Okay jamie heard wine. I don't know if you guys know this. But jamie has a new nickname called toucan jamie because at my baby shower last week. She had two cans of wine and literally face planted on the guy who she's datings bed and was just to the world. I i go to bottle quality cans and it was outdoors so it makes sense to have can't wind outdoors but it's a company i'm thinking about investing in and you are you an investor or what's your involvement with those rosa company so they approached me. I did a golf tournament at the espy's About two years ago. And i was there and they were served. This winery was serving the wine and my manager was with me and they got talking and they're like we'd love to do a collaboration wine and i love. I mean i'm like yes. Sign me up i will. I'm ready and they kind of gave me like full control of like the label. And what i wanted to say how i wanted it to taste. They would send me a bunch of rose as and My fiance help create the label. And everything and we came up. With this be tasteful. It was really cool in the wine. It's a strong rosa It's like fourteen percent or something. That's the one thing that i've been missing. Pregnant is rose That yeah i love her. I want to try it. So it's fourteen percent so the they can wind. That i had was eleven percent so yours would get me. Even more so be tasteful. So the be sanford barbie. That's so cute. And then so you did the labeled. What did you write on it. So i wrote. There's kind of a paragraph on the back and it just kind of talks about why. I did this wine and how i enjoy like i love to cook and so i like i love to drink when i cook just like its makes me happy. And that's when. I'm like okay. When i got pregnant i'm like how am i gonna do the no wine. The non alcoholic version that she has rose bowl. We don't recommend next dollar bottle of juice. And i like it didn't taste as good as juice and looked at some very similar to rosette. How did it in a wine glass. I was so excited. The first step i was like. Oh this tastes. Nothing like wine like the non alcoholic. Beer that i have. There's budweiser zero and heineken. Zero tastes exactly like a beer. And i love beer and i never drink beer to get drunk. I don't know how people can get drunk off. Beer my dad's somehow can. But i'm sure i can. Can all bottle rock cantu so yeah. Some people can get drunk on beer for me. Just enjoy a canner bottle or two. When i'm like a football game or watching football or whatever so i've had a few throughout my pregnancy because i enjoy the taste but the wine it's not similar so that'll be my first drink post baby. It'll be a glass. Of rosa oregon. I'm a bottle of my rosa again. So wine is like your one splurge. I was reading gloss every night. I have like one Yeah that's like my kind of my moment at like five o'clock i'm like okay. This is my time. This is me time and you can stop at one. Yes yeah so what. Okay so what do you do to counteract that. I i read somewhere that You work out every day for twenty five minutes. I got right to. Yeah i try to do at least twenty five minutes of cardio everyday so i'll go running. We live in a really cute neighborhood. up in like wesley village kind of wear jonathan's from up in suburbia there and we love it and so i try to do that and i do like online workout classes and a home so you talk about the online workout stuff after this. Podcast has a new app. He's launching called homebody. Where you can host your own live workouts you can sell your merch and all of that. Yeah it'd be perfect. Speaking of merchant you have emerged. Rachana though i do love like right now. It's just something. I did for fun because like i was going to go crazy. I did in creative over this time. Sounds like you know what. I love to make something and it was a joke between Me and my family and then it became a joke between me and brian our mutual friend and was like you know it'd be cool if i made a clothing line with kind of a message so lit. Nikki is like getting stoked on life. You know. you're getting nikki. And so like about a tree. Achieving your dreams. So i have a lot of throwback type logos and it's just been something i've been doing for fun and it's been really rewarding. People seem to like it and You know i love it. People will send me on pictures when they get the you know. Get the merge. And i love sharing that. And it's been really creatively because there wasn't a lot to now things are starting to open up again with film and whatnot but there wasn't a whole lot to do besides work out so i was like well. I got to do something like creative. You know and really fun. I've had a great time with it. Love that love to get some gear. Yes definitely feel like. Apm should actually have like little merch shop with like we were crazy beanies new. It's all happening masks. Mass chains are now available. So that what you have now. Yes so From my merch line. This was a sample one. So doesn't look the best. But i'm selling the mass chains the masks and then i have binny's we're going to do crop toadies going. It's actually now. It's probably a good time to start planning now. It's like going into spring. I want to do the crops. Zen mass chains. I love that. Yeah my girlfriend. Makes them. And i saw them so yeah ours on their Yeah so cute. Yeah thank you okay last question unless jamie has another. What is the one thing about each of you that nobody knows there would never expect good question. Thanks i never had my ears pierced. that's crazy. Well guess what i knew. We did have that no or the listeners. Dot is in fact but you also said that you might do it for your wedding. I don't think i'm gonna no no lebron's clip on going with the amazon instant clip on like it has the and i actually have one of my personal. It's going to wear them today and have the headphones right about it. But now i feel like it's not exciting guys knew it. Have you ever had anything pierced. Yes i'd have my nose and my belly button pierced ears than either of those. I don't know so weird. I got my ears. I waited till i was like twelve. And i went to the mall and did ellie clair's or something right and this is before. They did two at a time which now i understand why they do two at a time when they did the one and i freaked out and i ran out of the store and i refuse to get the other one done. I had to wait. Like i took that one out and i didn't have pierced ears author highschool in my adult life. I finally like gave. And i'm like a have to do it so it wasn't bad and i'm with stuff like that so yeah i don't know the ears for some reason just scares me. I don't know yeah jonathan. I can't even think of anything. Feel like a pretty open. And out there. And the things that i i wanna keep to myself. I keep to myself so i don't know what to do. You have anything down for me. Guess i post a lot about it though. Yeah i i have a black belt in brazilian. Jiu jitsu i've been doing it for fourteen years. It changed my life completely. If you're looking. You know i think that's the hardest thing people have with like finding something to do with working out is like to go out to find an activity if you're not a person likes to go lift. You've got to find something that like you like doing or skill set you like learning and it's been The mental facts probably have been even more than the physical affects. You know It's great to obviously be able to defend yourself and whatnot. But it's given me something that's really helped with the anxiety we're talking about like it's really something that has changed my life better person. It's it's a humbling experience as much as it builds up your confidence. It's humbling and Recommended to everybody love that. We'll tell everyone where they can find you. You can obviously listen to their podcast park media where we get your podcast but for everything else instagram. Jonathan nikki twitter. I'm never on it. But it's jalen nikki and i like a fan facebook. That's jonathan. Look nicky butt instagram. I'm the most active on. Yeah and i'm at the barbie blank on all social media platform youtube channel right and i have a youtube. I haven't posted on a long time. I need to be better. You to the new. I know i know it's the new way. Yeah i gotta get with it. Yeah i love it you have it. Yes oh my how everyone. Everyone's the last year. Oh that's great because you're pregnant and you're like people want to go along with that you know with you so i love that. We all try to do that if i get pregnant back kid. Thank you guys And thank you guys for listening. We will be back next week with chase and from the bachelorette i say say afghan. Thanks for listening to shenanigans. Sheena shake download new episodes every week on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever you get your podcast with me table. Get into thing missing me. Get over here. i'm gonna make you want talk.

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How do you contain the coronavirus outbreak?

PRI's The World

49:04 min | 1 year ago

How do you contain the coronavirus outbreak?

"China is taking more drastic steps to contain the spread of the corona virus. The Chinese have done a public health experiment on a scale. Unprecedented human history. I'm Marco Werman. The global outbreak has now spread to more than two dozen different countries meantime Australia rainstorms. Put out those massive wildfires but the recovery is just beginning. A lot of people are still living in tents and caravans where their houses once stood also today. A powerful trade union and France is planning another transit strike and the late Mexican American icon Selena. Her legacy still helps define what it means to be. Latino it relieve helped me identify with a Latino person that I had never been able to kind of comprehend those stores more today. Here on the world. I'm Marco Werman you're with the world in just the last four months more than a quarter million. Americans have been hospitalized and fourteen. Thousand people have died in this country from an infectious respiratory disease. If you are getting alarmed by those numbers no that. I'm talking here about the flu. These are actually pretty typical numbers according to the Centers for Disease Control by contrast total number of cases for the new corona virus in the. Us stands today at fifteen with no deaths globally the number of cases of Kovic nineteen. That's a disease caused by. The virus is at sixty four thousand. I just wanted to put things in perspective before rolling out. Today's coverage new figures from China. Today highlight the plight of health workers. More than seventeen hundred have now been infected and six of them have died but the World Health Organization says most of those cases among doctors and nurses occurred earlier in the outbreak the. Who's emergencies chief? Michael Ryan spoke to reporters at the organization's headquarters in Geneva today. We've always known that health workers in the frontline. We've said many many occasions here that the real front line and the real point of entry for a virus into a country is a busy emergency room an unsuspecting general practice clinic so we have called again and again for the training and equipment of workers because we understand those risks and we do believe that it is possible to manage for patients with viruses very safely with the proper training and the proper protective equipment. And we need to send a reassuring message out there. There have been reports though of shortages of protective equipment in China and there has been a spike in the numbers of cases. Authorities in the central province of WHO Bay are tightening controls on the population. More cities are sealing off residential areas to prevent people leaving and allowing only emergency vehicles on the streets. Michael Denny is a PhD student from Ghana in West Africa. Who's been stuck in his dorm in Wuhan for three weeks? Now we allowed to step out of the house or pokey Dmitri or hostal. You only allowed to go out when you have a medical emergency if you want to go out to unique to seek permission from the student. Counselor is like a solitary confinement. The major problem is because we have this Kelly restricted. Through some of these students is experiencing panic attacks emotional and mental Sales people the CRAT DEN. Um The CRYAN OR DO Co. You crying tonight they sleep. They can eat. Dr William Shatner is an infectious disease specialist at the Vanderbilt University. School of Medicine in Nashville Tennessee. Things have been moving very quickly with this story so today Friday. What is the most noteworthy news about? Covert nineteen well. What's happening? Marco is apparently China is diagnosing more and more infections within Luhan. That's interesting because we had been hoping that the number of infections would be receding as a consequence of this extraordinary quarantine that they have put in place. So I'm watching that very carefully. There is a continuing criticism of the lack of transparency in China Maine. Are you getting information that you need from China? Well we would hope that the contingent of folks who going there on behalf of the World Health Organization and I would say I wish the Chinese had accepted the offer from the CDC. But I hope those folks will help regularize communication. The rest of the world can get a better idea of how this outbreak in its control. Measures are progressing. I'm curious Dr Schaffner when it comes to quarantines as well as travel restrictions. How effective are they? Well they're not thought to be terribly effective except in isolated individual cases you can isolate one person here another person there quarantine another there that would work but in the past quarantines of larger communities unless they were very isolated rural communities really. Didn't work very well. So the Chinese have done a public health experiment on a scale unprecedented in human history. And so we're all eager to find out exactly how well this did work. But we haven't got the information yet to allow us to draw any conclusions about WHO's at risk for covert nineteen because It's my understanding with the nineteen. Eighteen flu pandemic. It was young healthy adults who are at risk so for covered. Nineteen WHO's The most vulnerable to catching the virus and dying. Well we're getting information out of China. Such that the pattern appears to be similar to other respiratory infection such as mainly older persons who are frail and then younger persons who have underlying illnesses heart disease lung disease diabetes and the like and then in addition on occasion just a normal young healthy person can get a viral infection in these severely. Ill now in the United States. The difference between our threat from influenza at present than Corona virus is really rather stark. It's very modest for corona virus at present we clinicians have that very much top of the mind. We're making these diagnoses very promptly. Patients are being well taken care of and then our public health partners are right on the job finding all the contacts of those people in putting them under surveillance so in the US unless you've just returned from China or you've had recent close contact with someone who's returned from China. Your risk of corona virus infection is very tiny thankful. How likely is a wider outbreak in the United States? Well we can have best in worst case scenarios but my particular take on. This is that at the moment. We're diagnosing in confining. Our patients following the contacts. Very well so I think we'll obviously see more cases and there may be small bursts of transmission here or there but public health will jump on those. I do not think we are going to have widespread epidemics in the United States in the near term. Finally Dr Schaffner. How Far Away are scientists from a vaccine or something similar? What are you hearing everybody's working overtime on both vaccines and new therapies for this Corona Virus. But that will take both of those. We'll take months so they'll help us on the back end of this problem but not in the immediate future Dr William Shatner and Infectious Disease Specialists at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. Thank you very much for the latest. My Pleasure Marco great news from Australia The New South Wales Rural Firefighting Service has confirmed that all the bush fires it had been fighting are now contained. The devastation they caused though is hard to fathom more than eleven thousand separate wildfires more than thirteen million acres of land burned two and a half thousand homes destroyed. Patriot Campbell lives in the number of valley. On the North Coast of New South Wales. A lot of people are still living in tents and caravans where the houses once stood or actually right next to the the debris of the former houses many of the fires were extinguished thanks to the rainstorm. We told you about a week ago but now the problem is that rain has not let up. Record-breaking fires have been followed by record breaking rainfall flood warnings have been issued for New South Wales and Queensland Margaret Headdress. Lives in a part of Australia known for its fruit farms. We've gone from fire to flood damage. Were empty after the fire. We've been going through severe drought and right after the flies. A lot of our watered venues through the five so we had no water left and normally it would take out dam three weeks of consistent Ryan to fill up and within twenty four hours of torrential rain that we had damage completely full. So we've now got enough water to laughed off three years if we don't get any right for Australians like Margaret and paid for. The whole ordeal has been overwhelming at times. It's been two weeks and we still can't go home. It's just incredible to be living this extreme of natural crises one minute phase horrendous bushfires that some people lost their lives in. And then the next minute. We'RE UP TO OUT NEXT IN WATER UNREAL. Australians are still assessing how much they lost those wildfires and that includes countless animals wild and domesticated. We're going to bring you the story. Now of one animal and his human is told by Danielle Sell Mayor. She and her partner were sheltering to pigs. Jimmy and Kate who had been rescued by activists from a slaughterhouse. Alexandra I'll take it from here. Shouldn't he was quite a happy? Go lucky peak. He would love to spend hours in his bath covering himself with mad or in the nest that he built himself. So one of the things that I used to do was to take a book and I would go into what I called their world where they live and I would lay out a blanket and Katie used to come and sit right next to me and sometimes I would put my head on her side and Jimmy would walk around and then he would lie a little bit away from us. It was peaceful and joyous on the twenty sixth of December two thousand and nineteen. The fires started to come close to where we live so I called the woman who had been Guinean cakes original person the first person who had rescued them and when she picked up the phone she said that she had been half expecting my call and she would be there the next day to come and get them and take them to her place in. Give them sanctuary until it was safe to bring them back here again. A couple of days later there was a miscall on my fine from my friend. I called her back and she just said it's all gone. It's all gone. There's all black around me. She and her partner had been outside. When the fire had approached on three sides they had gone into the house lane flat and had their mouths against the ground. Try and have the little bit of oxygen. That still left. The windows blew in. The fire came inside her partner. Threw her onto his back and escaped miraculously about an hour and a half. After I got the phone call. I got a text saying that they had found Katie's body. We assume that Kimmy was also dead until I received a video of Jimmy running out of this completely blackened landscape making his beautiful baritone sounds coming back time and he was alive. Hits survived this this inferno when we drove down to collect Jimmy. He was frenetic. He was hyper vigilant and my sense was that he had been so assaulted on every sense. The the hate must have been beyond anything that he would have experienced in his life. The noises like being underneath the train and the smell the smell of the ash all of that happening at the same time out of nowhere. His whole body was so overcome by the trauma that he seemed constantly looking listening smelling around him. For some type of repaint of the fire of the horror that he'd experienced when we got hyme humaid started to look around and I'm assuming that he was looking for Katie. Who would down to the woods. He would go onto the trees. He would go around his house and then a few hours later he went down the coal wooded area and he didn't really get up again for about two and a half days and my sense was that now that he was harm he could. Let go of that hyper vigilance. That had been keeping him in movement before and with the relaxation came the realization that Katie was dead. Now he's better. It feels like he's returning to live and same time. There is also the missing pair. There's no there's no coming the loss that he's being thrown. There's no replacing his sister who he spent every single day and night of his life until that ferocious fire and now he's gone from his life and she's not coming back. What Story Danielle Cellamare in southeastern Australia? You're with the world I'm Marco Werman. You're with the world. The Cesar Awards think of them as the French Oscars are just two weeks away. That made yesterday's announcement all the more shocking. The entire board that runs the awards process resigned. That's because eight come under fire for embracing Roman Polanski. He's the director who fled from the US to France. After pleading guilty to statutory rape in the Nineteen Seventies the World Sarah Birnbaum reports at the Oscars last weekend Natalie. Portman showed up on the red carpet wearing your Cape embroidered with the names of female directors. Were snubbed by the academy. How did you decide to do that? I wanted to record to saying I wanted to recognize the women who were not recognized for their incredible work this year in my subtler. And that's about as controversial as the awards got stateside which doesn't hold a candle to what's been going on. In France France has been much more forgiving of directors like Woody Allen and Roman Polanski who faced renewed criticism in the age of Metoo Polanski's latest film an officer and a spy couldn't find a US distributor he's persona non grata here but in France it did find a distributor. The Cesar Board recognized the movie with Twelve award nominations proposals. The film is about Alfred Dreyfuss the Jewish officer who was wrongfully convicted of treason in the eighteen. Ninety S. wait a film about false accusations. No that's not a coincidence. Polanski a convicted sex offender has been pretty heavy handed about comparing his own plight to the Dreyfuss affair the most well known example of miscarriage of Justice in French history. Firmness groups have boycotted the film screenings and this week. They wrote a blistering open letter in the French newspaper. Leopardi's E. N. One Line says if rape is an art gift Polanski all of this as ours see lien peak whose organization signed the letter argues. There's something specifically French about all of it and I can from the statute artist Keith. Did when she prepared to saying that infringe male artists get a free pass to do what they want to women and girls. She also notes that around the time. The film was released this fall. Another woman came forward accusing Polanski of rape which Polanski denies the Cesar Board initially dismissed the complaints from feminist groups Atlanta of the and the president of the Kademi said it could not be expected to take moral positions when evaluating films when he putting a soldier. This isn't a forum for debate. We've given the results from the first rounds and I must respect treatment for everyone not comment on anyone. The academy seems to have abruptly changed its tune with the mass resignation. Its board a new board will be elected after the award ceremony in two weeks but Roman Polanski's film is still eligible to take home a dozen statuettes for the world. I'm Sarah Birnbaum. We're getting news at the. Us on the Taliban are closing in on an agreement of some kind. The Wilshire Jafari joins me in the studio Shrin. What do we know about the details of for Well Marco Sector Defense Mark Expert told reporters today that the US and the Taliban have reached an initial deal? We don't very little about the content of this deal because the negotiations are still ongoing but American officials have signaled that there is going to be something called a reduction in violence from all sides that are involved in these negotiations and that reduction of violence is going to continue for days. The deal is between the. Us and the Taliban only the Taliban so far has refused to sit down with the Afghan government but the news today is seems to be like a step forward in the negotiations that have been going on for months now and that phrase reduction in violence it sounds like official protocol. What does that mean? That's a really interesting way that they've boarded this mark. What it means is that there's not going to be a complete cease-fire because the Taliban agree to a full-on sis wire so the negotiators came up with this terminology of reducing violence and the Taliban will agree to significantly minimize its attacks across Afghanistan for seven days and the American and Afghan government forces will do the same. The idea here is that this will be a confidence building. Measure presumably towards something bigger. Which is you know a negotiated peace deal and the next step for the. Us will likely be to reduce the number of troops in Afghanistan. There are currently about thirteen thousand American troops in Afghanistan and that will go down to about nine thousand Sharon. What should we be looking for next with the story while the US is withdrawing its troops the Taliban and the Afghan government will sit down to negotiate their own agreement? I think this is going to be where things are going to get. Tricky because as we know the Taliban has been fighting Afghan forces for about two decades now and it's going to be really interesting to see what comes out of these negotiations and whether the Taliban agree to reduce its violence the Wilshire Insofar thank you very much for the update. You're welcome Michael. Okay what is the most romantic city in the world? That of course depends on whom you're asking but a village in the UK. Thanks it should be in the running. Just start with the name Lover Okay. It's actually spelled L. O. V. R. But pronounce lower today. Though on Valentine's Day people call the place lover. It's a picturesque little village in Wiltshire in the South East of England and for years people would send their Valentine cards to the local post office. Air To be stamped with the words sent from Lover Lover then. The Post Office closed in two thousand eight four years ago residents in the village decided to set up their own pop up post office just for Valentine's Day and now once again people from all over the world are sending their cars to lower to get the special lower stamp. Nick gives is one of the volunteers who runs the pop-up post office. We sent cards to every continent in the world this year. I meant posting Condo to us and Canada. We post you to Taiwan. We actually had to someone to China. The dress which was written in Chinese characters so that gave us a bit of a challenge. I can tell you and you know what this year. We've even got a presence on the Falkland Islands and I have just received notice that we have got a car going to Antarctica to a scientist on the CAP. Half of the village's taking part in the effort. So did nick himself receive any cards yes or received one and I am one. Neither of US knew that we were going to do. But yeah of course you know when when you're involved with my wife is involved with this as well few cut to them you. I mean it's a wonderful thing to do and I might almost fifty years to my childhood sweetheart and I am a romantic sweet and if you happen to be traveling through southeast England on Valentine's Day you'll know when you've come to the village of lower because the entire place is decorated with hearts. If that is your sort of thing a lyric that says I love you. Check CROONER AND FALSETTO. Check a rhythm that makes you want to grab your partner. Dance real slow. It is the perfect song. For Valentine's Day it's even got a Jamaican rock. Steady groove you Edwards the Jamaican hitmaker from the sixties and seventies back in the day Jamaican artists whereas tuned into R&B stations on the US East Coast as they were their own roots. Music and American soul. Singers like Billie seward signed the original version. Of this town were big influences on the Jamaican songbook. Here's more of Jackie Edwards cover of. I do love you for this February fourteenth. Allow a pony need only and do. I'm done nine helps Jackie Edwards cover of. I do love. You came out Jamaica in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven your with the world I MARCO. Werman a new natural gas pipeline in Canada would cut right through indigenous land but protesters showed up and could put a stop to the project a few days ago. Probably say oh no way this is going on full force but with all these protests. There's no end in sight that story's coming up here on the world. I'm Marco Werman with the world we're a CO production of the BBC World Service W. G. B. H. Boston NPR wrecks. The deadly corona virus outbreak. That started in. China has now spread to more than two dozen different countries today. The first confirmed case was reported in Africa. Health officials in Egypt said the affected person is a foreigner and was placed in isolation global health. Experts say it was only a matter of time the virus reached Africa. And that's because of the growing relationship between China and many African nations. The world's Halima Condie has more Africa and China are more connected than ever. There are Chinese restaurants in Nairobi and African Designers Guido. Lena Benabdallah Studies China Africa relations at Wake Forest University diplomatic relations between China and African partners have seen human relations with many exchanges including Economic exchanges cultural exchanges a diplomatic relations and more recently also security and military relations. China has become Africa's top trading partner over the last decade. There are Chinese businessmen an construction workers working all across Africa and African students and entrepreneurs based in China. They rely on new direct flights that go back and forth between African and Chinese cities but that also means that when the corona virus appeared in. Wuhan one thing was clear. Those same connections also created a possible pathway for this deadly virus to come to Africa the National Institute of Communicable Diseases has assured South Africa's that the country is prepared for any eventuality of coronavirus rubbish. One of the vehicle now. Health officials are on high alert across the continent. Michelle Yeoh heads. Emergency Operations for the World Health Organization office in Africa. He's based in Brazzaville Congo. The big concern is will be able to detect and manage a case about could be introduced in the optic countries says countries that dealt with the Bulla. Outbreak are better prepared. Many of them already have detection mechanisms in place and in recent weeks the number of laboratories in Africa that contest for Corona virus has increased from two to at least fifteen but many African countries are still vulnerable. They might be able to handle small numbers of confirmed cases but those can quickly become an outbreak. Yao says unlike China most African countries are not prepared to quarantine or keep tabs. Large populations in another country is having hundreds of cases and thousands of people to follow up daily To be money temperature and to be research treatment center when they get sick that would be a worst case scenario so for many African leaders. The priority is stopping corona virus from entering the continent in the first place. Kenya's president whoever can Yada expressed his concerns during a conference in Washington. Dc last week. We don't have the capacity to build hospitals in seven days so we must do everything that we can Within the limited resources to ensure that we keep this this virus a completely completely away keeping the virus away can seem like a race against time especially considering the volume of travel between African countries and China. Last month Kenya's national airline Kenya Airways cancelled its direct flights to Lonzo and other airlines are under pressure to do the same. But Africa's biggest carrier. Ethiopian Airlines is still flying. Some see this as a political calculation. I spoke with one Kenyan student who is studying political science in Wuhan. She's frustrated that the Kenyan government won't evacuate its students. She didn't want to give her name because she fears losing her government scholarship but she says African governments don't want to jeopardize the relationship with China which is one of the top investors on the continent that thinking about are we supposed to get our citizens out in China. They stay so they feel that. We've become an excerpt official. Lum's sacrificial lambs caught in the complex relationship between China and African countries. Us officials have criticized how Chinese investment has put African countries in deep debt. But the relationship goes both ways. African leaders released statements of support for China in this difficult time and the small country of Equatorial Guinea in western Africa said it would donate two million dollars towards the corona virus relief efforts in China and a company in South Africa pledged to donate surgical masks. These small gestures seemed to be part of a bigger message that African countries consider China to be a friend in good times and bad for the world. I'm Halima economy. We've seen versions of this story before and it's happening again. Protesters in Canada trying to stop a proposed natural gas pipeline. The pipeline is supposed to cut right through indigenous land now. Canada's National Rail Company has announced it will be shutting down some services because of blockades by protesters. Cbc Reporter Angeles. Jared has been following the story. This is a pipeline that cuts through several first nations communities in the northwest of British Columbia. It is been the center of the dispute. That's been going on for more than a year now in whatsoever and territory. The hereditary leaders in this area are against the pipeline but the elected leaders many of them have signed on and signed agreements with coastal gas link. But we're seeing unfolding right now across. The country is a number of people who are in support of the hereditary chiefs and these protests are going on right across Canada. So what is the difference between hereditary leaders like for talking to what? Sautin first nation and the band council who who has more power hereditary chiefs follow traditional form of leadership that follows the matrimonial line so through their mother a hereditary. Chief can be groomed for example. My grandfather was groomed by the time he was eleven to become a hereditary chief. However it's a huge responsibility. You have to pay a lot of money back. In the day it would be goods Hunting gathering things that you produce today. It's money it's a huge responsibility and it takes a lot of work so my grandfather said No. I don't want to do this. And my uncle. Neil Stare at took over the role and became the hereditary chief of walk so in what sorts and territory there are thirteen house chiefs who have decided among themselves and through the community through vote. Actually that they didn't want this pipeline to go through that is at odds with the elected system. The elected system is a byproduct of the federal government that came in to indigenous territories in eighteen sixty seven and allotted people reserve lands. So putting them on tiny pieces of land not their traditional territories and appointed men so not the women the Matrix in the community that these communities were used to following that would decide upon things like healthcare and education but all of that power flows and still flows through the federal government. So they're very different in terms of who the responsible to one is responsible to the community. The other is responsible to the federal government. One more thing to make it even more complicated is the time of colonization the traditional forms of government so the hereditary chiefs were suppressed because the European colonizers that were coming over said. Your forms of government are inferior to ours. And that's why we're seeing such a confusion right now because there was an assault on the hereditary systems. They've weakened because of colonization. So it's complex. Has this kind of split happened? Before with with Selatan with a dispute that is so consequential we have seen divides always in terms of hereditary leadership elected leadership. However that doesn't mean that there's this black and white situation that's in communities you do see hereditary leaders who are on band councils. Because some of the hereditary leaders want to influence the ban councils to become more traditional you know you also see people who want to make a hereditary systems more democratic. So you see this crossover. And that's not uncommon. What is very unique about what we're seeing right now in Canada is that you see these protests popping up. You know via rail counseling trains nationwide on the eastern side of Canada. The MOHAWK Nation Ontario protesting in solidarity with with Selatan NBC. That's right and via rail temporarily ending. Most passenger services nationwide huge. You also saw on the West Coast protesters forcing and counseling the West Coast Express this morning closing down like this huge section of the population. Who are trying to get to work in the morning every morning that I get up. It's like okay. Which route should I go? Because there's GonNa be protesters here. Protesters they are or I need an extra seventy minutes to get home. So what you're seeing now is people saying. Why is this going on? I've got to look this up. Oh this is about hereditary chiefs. What the heck is that people? Having this intricate idea and knowledge of what hereditary chief is. It's giving power to those forms of government that were suppressed. So we're hearing things Even that don't have to do with the land. Even Child Welfare where people are considering going to the Supreme Court of Canada saying look. You didn't consult with our hereditary leadership so there's a lot play right now and there's a lot of change happening right beneath our feet dispute over the pipeline leading to discussions of all sorts of other things. How much pressure are the protests and the train blockade pudding on the government of Justin Trudeau right now. Could it stop? Actually the construction of the pipeline project. It's interesting kind of how slow the leadership here has been to act. And we don't know what's going on behind closed doors besides them having conversations on the phone with each other. The federal government does have jurisdictional authority over our railways and so far has refused to intervene. We know that indigenous Mrs Mr Mark Miller has agreed to meet with the Mohawks. Those are the Nation that is blocking or disrupting real service in the east and we know that John. Horgan the premier BC has said that he's going to meet with Dixon she's done what. Sautin hereditary chiefs in the North. But we don't know when that will be so from a journalist perspective. It seems like they're dragging their feet a lot. And if this will shut down that coastal gasoline kype line a few days ago would probably say oh no way this is going on full force but with all these protests. There's no end sight. Maybe maybe they're gonNA have to take a second look and do proper consultations with the entire community to get a better idea of how they can do better. Angeles stare at a reporter with the CBC speaking with us from Vancouver Angela. Thanks for getting us up to speed on the story. You're welcome strikes in France some joke. It's a national tradition there and don't you know next week. Trade Union leaders say they will shut down public transportation again. They're protesting the French government's plan to reform the National Pension System at the center of this pressure. Campaign is one of the most militant trade unions in the country Anita Lash reports from Paris. Garbage trucks are slowly working their way down a narrow road in the center of Paris. It's their first trip in four days. And there's a lot of garbage. The streets are blocked with bins. The bins are overflowing with cardboard boxes food scraps and wine bottles from restaurants. Technically speaking garbage workers in Paris are not on strike. They left the garbage lying around because other workers shutdown incinerating stations outside the city so the garbage piled up in neighborhoods like this people who live here. Tell me they're annoyed. Bruno Dupont is a local shopkeeper. Oh phone gravel. He's one hundred hundred good. He says the strikers are ruining the image of Paris and the entire country. Mcvay Sean is Philippe. Geena is a retired businessman. He tells me the unions have too much power. They represent a minority but control the majority. They're interfering with people's lives the union behind the garbage strike is the militant. Cgt in English. That's the General Workers Confederation. It's the second biggest union in France and the only one that says it won't back down until the government gives up. Its plan to modernize the pension system. The leader is Philippe Martinez. He's a former member of the communist party but these days he and the union have a different rallying cry Social Situation Report Egalitarian. Martinez says he and the C. G. T. are now focused on social justice and equality. He promises to keep up the pressure with what he calls innovative actions. Those militant tactics have included the garbage strike shutting down ports and cutting electricity to thousands of homes and international airport and the world's largest wholesale food market not surprisingly. Perhaps those actions have been widely criticised economy. Some of the more conservative news media in France and this popular television talk show host accused Martinez and the CGT of harming the French economy news about Detroit. Martinez defended his union's tactics on the talk. Show he said. The strikes hurt the economy but sent that was not the point cultured jetties convenient. Martinez said the strikes are inconvenient but he said everything the Union has done is legitimate legal comedic. We is an industrial relations expert at the University of Normandy. She says the C. G. T. has become more militant as unions in France struggle to prove they're still relevant. One of the sing is in play in in this. Social movement is what is going to be a supporter of trade unions. Most workers still support trade unions more than sixty percent vote to choose their union leaders but President Emmanuel Macron has refused to give in to union demands on any major labor reform if trade unions defeated again. I don't know what will be trade unions after that maybe The government will assume that they are killing trade unions. If they don't hear trade unions at all in this rhythm. Monday will be a key moment in all of this. That's when the French parliament starts to debate. Its new pension law. This E. G. T. and other unions promised to show their strength. They've called for another nationwide transit strike for the world. Anita alash Perez. These are trying times for Washington just last week. The European Union's top diplomat described the United States as quote not very friendly. We are not foes he went on to say. We share common values. Talk about setting the bar low. That's the atmosphere. Though as heads of state diplomats and national security officials from around the world gathered in Munich. Today it's day one of the annual global security conference their German President Frank-walter Steinmeier opened the conference with a warning. He criticized the world powers for pursuing self interested policies the fish to Saigon. I fear that we're witnessing. An increasingly destructive dynamic in world politics. The German president said Steinmeyer accused China Russia and the. Us of making the world less safe and he singled out president. Trump's motto make America. Great again though. He did not mention trump by name of under defining. Starting Steinmeyer said the. Us Germany's closest ally. But the current administration rejects the very idea of an international community. He said Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was also in Munich. He warned against populism and said that nationalism is on the rise divisional pollute. You sit way. Due to debate. Senator Moon more and more citizens are doubting the benefits of an integrated world. Trudeau said their impression is that globalization is only benefiting. The rich people are attracted to populist movements which exploit their anxieties trudeau continued. The result is that countries are withdrawing into their own borders. We'll continue to follow the conference through the weekend. Selena Quintanilla Perez or simply Selena. She was a Grammy Award. Winning Mexican American singer Selena was known as the Queen of Tejano Music. Tuhan being that mix of cultures that emerged along the border area between Mexico and Texas. Here's Selena at the Toronto Music. Awards in Nineteen ninety-five. Listen but I would like to say thank you. Don't just months after that? Selena was killed by the manager of a clothing Boutique. Her fans were inconsolable. Today though Selena's legacy is as strong as ever Nathan Rodriguez teaches at San Diego State University. He actually teaches an entire course on Selena as a way to explore Latina next media representation. He's also just a big fan. I spent a lot of my early childhood in San Antonio Texas and listening to the radio stations. I was always listening to the radio trying to win stuff but I grew up in a very patriarchal Mexican household and I consider myself a son of an immigrant. My grandfather was like my father to me. He was from Mexico and he spoke Spanish. My Grandmother spoke Spanish. My mother and her brother spoke Spanish and growing up. They really wanted me to speak English first so that I would be successful in school and so because of that. I grew up in a household hearing Spanish all around me but I spoke English and so I didn't speak Spanish correctly kind of watch all so. I never really felt like I belonged. I was always the middle was Mexican enough American enough so when Selena came along and I was able to hear her say. Hanky while learn to see Spanish but speak in English and talk about her own identity and mispronounce words and fumble on the Spanish that she had. It really helped me identify with a Latino person that I had never been able to kind of comprehend to this person that was in the middle. That was you know living a bi cultural life so I saw a lot of myself in Selena. She helped me myself negotiate. My you know the Hanoi identity knowing that there wasn't one correct way to be a Latin next individual and that's really how she resonated with me and growing up. I just kind of always you know looked at Salina. As a person that was just authentic nominated. We all freaked out. We couldn't believe in the price that she was herself and she never apologized for it. They can take picture of these stars. I'm it hit me later. I was like Oh my God you know would have we win or you know Grammy Award. Winning Music Star. Selena has been shot and killed in Texas the twenty-three-year-old Mexican American Selena died in one thousand. Nine hundred twenty five years ago in the year. Since how have you seen Lachey next media representation change that we're going into a more positive direction? We're also going into a direction. Where Latina identities are not monolithic? Right a lot of times everybody automatically things Mexico but let the next so much more than just a country or nation or geographic space. So when you see the direction of the current landscape since Selena's passing really starting to encompass this kind of blending of sorts of different types of sound and people to make what the lat next individual is or representation. A lot more intersectional now. That doesn't mean that it's portrayed more often I think is just the few portrayals that we do have are more intersectional and we still have a far way to go Nathan. I'm imagining that on day. One of course you've got to be playing some music. Is there a tune by Selena that you feel captures not just who she was? But also what you represented then and now for Latin x culture. I think that there's many songs has when I asked my students know what songs they remembering. What songs to them. The first one was flawed. Which was her first number one hit in medical but also the United States and I think that really speaks to her ability to cross borders to cross genres and also to cross generations of students. Now who have never worn alive when Selena was alive are able to remember that song and it means something to them the song lyrics also talking about being given something and then withers away and you're sad about it now and I think also speaks to kind of this Latin morning of all the different things that are happening in terms of the militarization of the border in terms of DACA students being scared in terms of children being put into cages. It really speaks to this whole at the next culture of wanting and belonging not being able to have it and then of course you know and I think a more kind of literal weight also speaks to the fact that we're still morning Selena and we're still looking for those positive role models that transcend barriers in genres and generations. And we're still searching for that so I think of all the songs that students bring up going off Florida's really that one that speaks to it go. Which one are you most likely to sing along to? I think to all of them. I every single song had every single Selena said NCD. And of course all of the platelets soundtrack I tunes and so I'm always listening to all Donald Songs. Any selena Sunday comes on. I'm automatically singing it. There is not one that I don't seem to well superfan. You still have the cassettes. I do I do. My mom was a very Donald Fan. And so she collect two cassettes. She actually had friends of hers. Who worked in nightclubs make her mix tapes and so I grew up. Just listening to cassettes and just kind of keeping them. Nathan Rodriguez an assistant professor at San Diego State University. Thanks very much. Thank you so much sir. This is Selena's English head. Dreaming of attractive came out after her death. The music lives on from an Annabel. Her Studio at WBZ chair in Boston. I'm Marco Werman. We'll see you back here Monday. The world is a CO production of W. G. B. H. Boston the BBC World Service and Pierre Ex.

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Gab and Juls: Transfer Window Special

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45:29 min | 8 months ago

Gab and Juls: Transfer Window Special

"The. It's Thursday, the transfer we have shot in. It's the Gaba Jewish. Oh Hello Jaws I got. All right. We're GONNA. Do this with the topic of power. Through this we're going to do our translator review for primarily clubs for the major European clubs. Think of as a report card but. No grade because I don't need them up show on social media do a B. Plus we're GONNA we're? GonNa be on new age you but we'll be constructive you're gonNa say these are things you did well, these are things you could have done better. Okay. So let's start alphabetically the primarily with Arsenal obviously, they brought in Thomas Party. Fifty million euros papers released close on the last day of the Window Gabriele problem I have free Blah Blah Blah. Are you happy are they happy? What were they trying to achieve and did it? So they will happy in terms of strengthening defensively Williams back in back from US liaison to general though he hasn't played yet Gabriela thing they really suddenly but could go on loan now. The Defensive Cou they want that would be a love of Quebec clubs to sign and he's been pretty good so far and then, and then you add the the the trio of our Ginola Party and they ended up with party. They're gonNA get your junior David and tried. They counted Chelsea central midfielders and. If they can rise rather. Chelsea. For example, I think Georgina we'd have to if my aunt had wheels. If I think party does a bit of West Virginia does in the sense he's a bit defensive and also be attacking if you wanted party all along why don't they sign him at the start? Exactly. That's one of the mystery that that's why I don't think they wanted him all along i. think that's what I'll always read the property didn't happen for. Party as you are you saying parties a plan B to our plan B but alternative yeah I think he's saying, okay he can bring us. You know he's a great number. Really let's be honest. He can do a lot of things where I walk into one thing you can do one thing really. I. Think they were probably looking to also shift more players. Obviously. Did. Manage to lose green doozy isn't. Going to be seen throughout the show is clubs with guys with older players mature player if you don't like using the word veteran but I'm telling you painting League, for ten years, you're a veteran people. toppers don't say into your plan difficult to ship is on high wages could yet move maybe on loan in a championship or maybe in January. Let's move to Chelsea who's kept. Oh yes. The extended Obama again, you know my views. And especially in light of William I think Wiseman told me if you're in Arsenal's position, you decide do we upgrade? So we can finish top for now or do we rebuild for year with a long term view so that we can compete for the title in three years I think it's very difficult to move forward. As you know when you've got all this money tied up in players who are in their late Twenties and thirties, you'll be replacing in two or three years but. That's just me Chelsea spent an absolute ton of money. I'm not going to go through all the signings because you guys know who they are. Shifted guys at the end lots cheek Bucker Yoko going on loan to Napoli was Buckley Ross Barkley to villa. Happy was. Wrong. Things they could have done better I, King more clarity at the back. You can't have a situation where Rudiger's is on the naughty step. He comes back with tomorrow's supposed to go on loan then he comes back then. They messed up the back situation. You don't need three left backs when you sign then show well it'd you said of awesome tried I think they really try to avoid Luga to. Recognize young but then. was is maybe we are talking for two, three, one I. Think they might be a little bit light in the now at this stage because it's Virginia, it's it's called the. Kante and obviously when Gilmore comes back until more still very, very young so. I got an area could've done better. We're GONNA we're Chuck Everton in there because it's Carlo because their top of the league. I think is very clear. I thought. All right. I just want you to have a clear plan to stick with it. Right. I saw whatever. Lodge I owned Everton. then. I would say, all right kids long-term Build, Stadium Blah Blah Blah. If I'm Carlo I say no, that's go and try to really upgrade and make a jump now. They've gone down that road obviously Godfrey's younger. I think he's a great signing graves in depth. The other signings simply make them mix simply make them better especially Juku. Colors worked with them before and obviously Hamas gives them another dimension. So completely and I think the way bill these midfield knowing exactly how it was going to play the way he wanted to play what everybody could bring to that Korea under Gomez and Alan I think this is perfect and then Hamas there was always a question mark, but he's done really. Well, let's see over the whole length of the season so far. I gave liver Ross on the C. Shelters who had the best window I liverpool. Little by knows over over Spurs the reason I chose Liverpool was dave have a dominant team I thought that want to double down and consolidate now you're you're Liverpool. You're in a situation where let's continue to win now because we have the tools to do it, I might have taken a longer view, but once you decide to go all in then that's fine. Then Tiago I think fits. Different gives them a different dimension GIADA. We've talked about we'd have been better. They would have been better with Verna. then. Loss. Vannes. Rotan yeah probably probably but I think. that. They did very well to sell to get all the money back for brewster who obviously doesn't fit in Pines and Lawler, and of course as well. I. If I now those situations they should've sorted out they will lose album for for very little or they're going to have to extend into longer term deal. But beyond that did well author it was it was a very interesting. Transfer Window, Mike Redwoods, and club run it really and we didn't really expect especially the show weaving been going on about man's cities need to strengthen the defense on signed two defenders. So they're good. One is a cover for La Porte on the left hand side busy and of course, as you know is you don't thinks acting can play left-back. Nothing about it on. No No. No. Fire on. You know he's not ECON run up and down left left inside. Like if you. Left I left by he played right back for Manchester City Kara Walker. It's Kinda Walker Danny Alvis No. No. Pay As more of a ride by over full bag then Nathan Achey really. It's football we get to compositions not not insurance. No, it's not nice as you know is. Like that deal what I didn't like about is moving ds I'm not wild about Ruben Diaz Otamendi sing was. Needless inflating of the fee. I was on board with Farren Torres and I think he's long term thing but. I do think David Silva is a big missing. You really have to put a lot of face faith that Bernardo and Foden can step up. And I don't know why couldn't they didn't pursue even more I mean we talked about it on Monday. Sure but. For me is baffling that you make one offer for you don't come back for another one and instead you go and spend sixty, five, million women Diaz makes no sense. United I think we can go through pretty quickly because everybody's been criticizing them but I want to get your take on combining. People are gonNA. Talk about his enormous wages, different numbers I haven't been able to confirm. What is wages are you the length of his contract is wine year plus an option for second year? Yeah I think that was smart from. United yet. Not a bad not about option to have on the if it doesn't work out, he's gone in a year Greg. I, mean, of course you could see us. Either another Falco why did just doesn't what doesn't adopt that Timmy's don't pay grade he's not scoring or another Abra or the. Different in the sense die success. Of, age great and Greg Guide. To on the pitch in the dressing room, it will bring you something different from us because he's a poacher, but he's very dependent to the team. If your team is not performing, there's no service to him. He's going to be pointless. We don't need to dwell on this, but by the Montreal story. Yard is probably previously known as A. Tremendous story that we should should mention that with with him and police street. A longer view Donald these guys are any good your kids I can send who who was supposed to go to your and united hijack the move and dig fallen really had them for it. To Joan, is really really talented. Winger are let's Talk Spurs I thought they did well whereas they did well, they did well, in terms of they matched up with Joe Shimmering you'll wanted now they have debts options at fullback with on and audio they have a backup center forward Vinicius. Think he's any great shakes, but he did. Last year in profile to Kane. I think that's important. Is because they can put together. Exactly. I thought they did well on the Walker Peters Deal I agree. But centreback that's the for me. That's the only almost perfect for them. We talk about the but in terms of one in, you're wanted they got all those players for less than what city spending Ruben Diaz on his own, for example, which I think is great business. But for me, the centre-back was really the one that could have. Dire. Centreback you have come on Diane. Diane debits on Sundays and come on I. Guess if you make an extra effort for screener now we're talking okay, this is really Anyway. It's funny with the extra effort. Because they got Gareth Bale it's GONNA end up costing them about ten million pounds or euros wages Ramadan covering bit. I wonder you could've used that money on somebody like screaming yarn if not screening right through the magic. You know Keenan Bane I just think it's. Romantic story it could work well for them. Even if you give them fifteen games to gives them game the season I think it could be a success one and a half million pounds per game. podcasters. US. We're back TV we all focused on the big shakes every chain because it's all we talk about now it's because we answer to our audience but. There were some notable moves. You know it's interesting. I. I've got a piece coming on. So the overall trend overall numbers. The netspend in the Premier League has gone down but hasn't gone down that much. One point two, billion did. Just, spending I think might have even been more than that. In the pandemic context, this is incredible eight is it is and I. Think what you're also seeing I mean that also you're seeing more of those. Favorites in Italy. Those loans with obligations. And stuff like that. So you know there is there is still movement we think a sizeable movement from those clubs out of the big sex. Definitely, for a long time, it looked like the big six salable but we've cited averaging over top of the League wolves again. They hung onto domitory and rolling. Extending Communists contract already and think in talks with with them out to extend his deal as well. Dave added Fabio, Silva for forty million which you know. A Lot of these guys all have the same agent that. The door to deal was interesting I know that because. was a piece of. This kind of reminding us of the new normal rate where Dorothy leaves club where the owner is a stakeholder in the agency of the guy who represents him that agency also represents a manager that agency also represents him that agency also represents the manager of the club that he signs for. This is the new normal but listen Georgia Mendez one one, the transfer Markelle he wanted again there's no rousing comeback at the end rather than come back at the end he won't it whether you like him. Oh Just. Just wanted. That's the way to the point from a wolves fan perspective because this is what they care about evidently. I don't think many are interested. In demand disconnection. They come out of this stronger I. Think. So I mean he wanted to go. He won you replace him with somebody you all know I'm not the biggest fan of tomato are very good at least the system and the formation wars would suit him more than. Barcelona underwear Botswana. Maybe he would be a surprised. I think they've been very clever with Silvo who's very young and you have money, but he's very talented. New either French left back who is sensational wars have Georgian ministers an agent. So of course, of course, it's all linked but who great talent and I think for me, it's one of the signing of the summer. On Permit League clubs together. People like Marcel from. They. Use Jota NATO you've got potential as well. So I do think you're doing shots expendable at this stage. Given. The other players that they have Yeah. You're. Our friend Franck leboeuf said Aston Villa had the best transfer window. Go carried away but it's really good. Martinez is good. Barklay is good evening onto was good. Yeah. Great. Of course is good. Mattie cash is decent player right back better than they had before he's always. Did you sign someone who's better much better than what you had already before thou could improve your team and I think in all those cases it is. We need to talk Lester for what can sorry. Ines obviously lessee how how often you will repeat that before would be Ollie Watkins scored a ton of goal. Goals last season in a very, very attacking championship side. If you look you know before that I think he was in double figures both years before that but he's not exist thirty golden he's that's not his job but he certainly certainly shows that you can find good played pay a ton of money for him. Lester. I think again, really impressed. Really impressed when the. Last week or the week before for you film for them. And also burn rogers to Tillman's and Rogers said we are targets like Wesley for Finance Jenin emerges were swing price when we talked about him. He's so quick. So Strong said, tell me more about him. And your stories that can knows. So we talked a lot of fun. For me, this was a no brainer I know he's forty million euros. We should love money for thousand nineteen year old who played thirty times in the French top flight. But again, you buy the talent and. The. Who I think he's Great Custodian who I think was signing even you wonder why not more bigger clubs went for Gastein after this Tanta again interesting. They were very very intelligent in the way that transfers and. Set and keeping my on for example, and just sell players to be able to to finance and invest all the monies they they certainly looking good shape because I'll be curious to see some people fell into. This might be the answer to question. that. When you have that system. The players a product of the system or are they actual good players in their own right playing a different system we'll find out. So far, he looks pretty darn you four in about five and just selling Chitwood, for fifty million in spending money on all the other recruits is just Brennan and those. So let's not forget that the market is still open between for the lower leagues between the premier. League. Championships with probably Congo and buy in France or Italy or Spain. By someone from the championship he might a he was poseidon up from from Brentford players available for Premier League clubs to buy, and we talked about only Watkins and There's really good players in the lower leagues in England. What was exit Tickets for you and I think Steve Good deeds could be done by some clips. I expect you might also see is some of those accents players that haven't moved yet. To Championship possibly moving down there just to get playing time and to get a bit of shop. Window. Right having dealt with the premier, League let's move on to what some British people like to call Europe, because I, your a heart. All right. Let's move on to the continent I'm Jules. Question for you. Do you know the three clubs in the Big Five Leagues There's only three clubs with? Did didn't by anyone tour all summit only three. But you're going to tell me that one of them's Real Madrid until disguise falling and this is back To the two I have no idea, Bordeaux and Valencia, all different contexts I thought it was a good intro to talk about remedied. Become talking about validity quick hits. Madrid people look at this, but they have had a ton of. They could have brought back Akeem by regularly on day sold them. Which I think is is good. They brought money in they managed to place both Hamas, and bail. Which I think is also good for them. He needed them anymore players and they brought in Martin New Guard who Was One of the best players and certainly for for most of last season. So I I like the window I got no constructive criticism here. But the thing is for me is pretty obvious. They could have spent money because the the ruling was if you want, you can bring you one and. I keep going regular said and rain and. Better their power powder-dry for earlier. Holland knowing. The whole idea for. You don't spend. Now. You've you very intelligent next summer when nobody has any money, they'll roll it there. You mean for me small already in the view of next semester why they can do they can poke by can do Holland if they can do Mbappe, whoever can do they will have more money than because he didn't spend anything. Let's go from one extreme to the other Barcelona. Now, we've talked about them a lot we've been we've been critical of them. I try to offer constructive criticism. Sorry for the fact that they were up that bad creek without a paddle to begin with, and so they had very very limited room to operate. I wouldn't have done the archer deal now, Chari. Trine cow again this was all damage that was done before you got the money in for tomato you get. So Gino Desk. Fine. That's what happens. Chino's back right decision to try to integrate them. I have done a striker a real striker did not deploy a real striker I think that is the single biggest thing that we can point at him given the restrictions down, right? Yeah. Given the restrictions probably like as we said appropriate in Benign NO MEMPHIS. Benign Strike Oh can play wide as well. I. I. See the relationship between Kumon and and I think when you manager, you try to bring your own guys in that but it would have made no sense. I mean, the Pie waited really through some point it was gonna go that I still think I sent to. Has One knee left. Then you've got worn out and then he's PK who's like Longley Longley and I hope maybe it's all about it but I. Was the big target they may start you will come. In January I don't think they missed on it and dodge the bullet there. Won't they won't. So you get them for free next for. John. Madrid. Did was add Luis Suarez. More Outta out party day couched on. From their perspective but. Surely would not have wanted to go. There were very very angry about this. I this constructive criticism. Better Intel. Better knowledge of a party wants to do but knowledgeable ourselves to do a plan. B, if you get this surprise on your doorstep, that is legit criticism other than that I got no real issue with them. Just off roading players you and they want you to let. Me Margot for but those who are really having that wedge bid couldn't again which which again you know you need to call up uncle George to get some of this stuff done and. But you put yourself in this exact you put yourself. Being perhaps not as a football club is only a football club is something else? Yeah. There's only so much. You can say that point Again Club also really really hamstrung by the big losses. Constructive criticism I don't want to wind back and say you should have made different decisions before. So things right thing to do eating tweety any weddings contracts and the dodgers Bella because they assumption point it looked like they were going to sign really old players, suarez logical and. Our. Kids could ski all those are much younger, which is what they're needed. Let's see what we can do with them. Kids a do by the way decorative. What's going on because obviously it's a two year loan deal which becomes a permanent. Another forty million. Simply cash you simply. Bush issue. But. I think they'll have to figure out what to do. Again case I think is an accumulating asset situation shot to the became you of course because. Very good. It's first game. Inter. You on board with this are shaky me and caller of and then the Dow Bunch of older guys incentives back. Yeah. This is what they got off Damien I mean one it looks like the much united. We're not together which which I don't mind. I. Love. What we said earlier about Carla Everton nothing continue exactly knows exactly why won't to wants to play I spy the be fancy you might like them but they're very efficient to do I. Just hope they learn their lesson. They've learned the lesson for the future you cannot operate a club this. Nine Golan is now still how you're gonNA. Pay Him they've. Backfield is. Ridiculous for me keeping with auto as where it was was huge for them dot. That was big Napoli. We Love Oshii man and Becca Yoko are good for us. Really impressed with I got a good for Alan once he's no longer part of their plans. Could work with with Reno Milan exactly notion they're bringing a stimulant. They said, we're GONNA, go with Youth juggled Allah alone think is just a roll of the dice but they needed a body. The big of course is Sandra Tornado Again it's one of those loan obligation to buy in it's going to be thirty, five, million euros. That's a steal right NECESSA-. East. Fantastic player exactly again, the way they want to play when you think of midfield, of Vanessa, and you're like, wow, and then. Region. So. This time the Norwegian one the kid as well. because. He's one of the best players on the pitch, not generally reason to sign a guy but. Like Muse highly rated. The extent you know my thoughts on something I might have. You sold per capita. A. Twenty million. Guys could be a clever signing I. Love the things they did and of course. Now off the wage bill. Presents Your Man Best Club in the world you know. All right operating in a bit of the. Transfer, you know lane you spending money on ecology to make you pemanent and then Pereira another the defensive midfielder wanted he's twenty nine. So I know where you're going to say about age and the money base alone is a really good deal. I think in in the loan. For. Again Saloon Mosey Kane is alone. Really Clever. They came out better than they went in Yeah I think. So I think stronger although they lost. Let's not forget. And caveney. From. Boston I think are free pretty much when when you play on away he's going to be. Signing Byron. Who? was. In the end they they read column and Brazos. Egypt went out there and boom. Here we are. Douglas Kosta your friends you wanted that to happen all year long. At least you've gone players but he's Got Boon Asaf Marseille come on June Assab. How is this one? Clearly anything. Can Happen in football. Option. Provide when you need to. Know Wh. Brunette? ZSA. zsa He was a right winger that was. Never right wing. Right, by a group line is a really good guy and story was released from the academy in Seventeen Medi through the League's. Shot, right but they needed a body they got they go. Long Season Chupin exactly. Dortmund we love the bellingham deal. Show impressive I honestly hats off to that. Can do without goods has gone. I think could have strengthen the little more defensively again cove and Blah Blah Blah. Yeah. Because like he's back from his loan, you've got g against fit. It could hold up I think. In the end obviously losing verner, they signed sore loss and Verner. So immense that you need to guys to replace him. They got Henrik's back on loan from Monaco may maybe you can rebuild guide Navy I, they come again I'm not one of those people says verners the longer score goals no, they still score. Tana. Goals. I think are generally happy with it. Yeah. Especially, Forsberg can go back to the level. They had two seasons ago which over if. You need. You need. I think forced back to be good as well because then. We need to of those three guys to be good. Yeah. True. But I'm just not convinced about the strikers off. Overall. I think a solid window for a lot of these clubs in difficult situation I. Think they've been clever the way of the box for some of them. You know we can only see those prize bring to the teams. Yours, we tried to hit some of the bigger teams in Europe. Sorry. If you feel like we haven't gone in depth, I, feel like we do in depth, they wanted to issues most week. So this time it's more of an overview. But I know there's more clubs that you went ahead. Yeah. Just think as we said, the big clubs had to think of it differently because of the pandemic no money nothing and I think are the clubs as well. If you look at PSV Eindhoven for example who Know just hired Walker Schmidt I think he's a really good choices as a manager. Bet. The three guys who are nominated for UEFA as manager of the year old. German. Yes. Good victory. The way they built a recruitment they went to get some guy for example La to lose who I think is lot of talent bit hit and miss a time. He's in Bay was a very difficult season for for to lose my. Oh good. Sir, why are we take a gamble on? You know I think if you can keep him fit in the league like the era, the visa that could work for you. This is Max as well as on Erin's a heavy who says he three I know but as we've seen before with whom Solano people us now you Know. If you. Raise you I xe who signed Antony who looks like the real deal? I make all that money so. I like I like Classen I like. I, like a I do but I think. As well, need need a bit of love. Right we. Really. Interesting right. By, the whole. Yup. I don't think I think that a bit of slightly bumpy start to the season Obviously. They think they can get up for you don't make that investment in this financial climate. Obviously I. would have had some guarantees I would imagine when he signed. But. No I think about looks good. Savannah as well. Going to address alkmaar who are really good season. For them, keeping keeping they keeping, compose you just trust in Monchy. As we said on Monday, usually they fifteen fifteen, I think the time they've done it it'll be more. Workers, they of those guys right there in January. Yeah. And, of course, the banana two rackets transition. Not Like I don't think. You can replace by. At this stage what? The rackets now. But equally in that context was the right players around him. You could've taken much overhead and you've got a big PR coup with. With wreckage coming back how about my boys at Atlanta adding all that depth now as well It is amazing. They've made I think excessive one, hundred million in in transfers in players they've sold. Key Kaczynski was their guide custodian and Troy Jello. Gala, who's WHO's going to? It's it's pretty it's pretty remarkable what they've done, and now they have extra bodies and I think that's pretty critical said last year. Oh, they can't play the whole season long. Well Yeah. They can. Now they have competition for places is important. So I think you know they're they're interesting to look at as well. To, in France who signed Jeremy Doku, the eighteen old highly rated forward from undulate and the national team wedding, we're going to be really good. Coach. WHO'S The man most hated by Vincent obeys. Twenty six I want to see me league. I think he could be very good. You could be good could have been really good at a different Italian team. PSYCHOTIC fans who go and just criticize him for anything he ever does. Kane who can. The group is, but they feel like you know what? We can sign someone again I think before French curves would never thaw. We can sign someone from from you know like the Shiga, you who went to Joan on learning thing. Okay. They tried to afford the. Real team like Real Kula Doku is. This the kept Vinca and a niece of business. So I like to love the smaller clubs of smaller wish clubs I've done this. Quite well, big season ahead. I think still will. Touch just as we said this for flooring nothing applies. Across. Europe they are still a lot of excess players out there. I think we will see movement in January. Well, we might also see and I think it's difficult to do but you know. You could cancel the contract during season. The Guy can become a free agent and the guy can sign for another club. It's difficult. You need permission to do it and yet, but I think authorities are going to be a lot more lax and giving people permission to go and do this. Obviously you need both sides agree just simply because of the situation wearing and because of the reality of the number of games and I have a piece up by the lake about that two of the number of games in the intensity. Of that's useful. All right. I love my transfers but I all transferred out at least until January first. So, I have to say enough transfers. How about some crickets as gump's Abraham Ben show well Angie in central are dropped from Gareth Southgate's England after breaking social distancing rules apparently, the three of them went to a party in law newly about twenty people at the party but obviously mask less and whatever else. are you impressed with southgate's hardline stance because he tries to be the touchy feely nurturing guy we'll see them when there was fight between people but I know. Some muscle this time under impressed by what this is the right decision there's nothing to be impressed with they messed up de big mistake. I know the young I know these and another. Should have known better and that was the only decision to make from saga. Anyway I am impressed because a draw renewed. Dropped Maguire before because there's English prayers, they keep making mistakes and messing things. To just getting June I mean. I would this again, this is what they've done that I would've been disappointed in Gareth Southgate because I hold Gareth Southgate to a higher standard than previous managers and I think previous England managers fearing the media do badly. Surely I can think of at least dreaming managers. Why would say one hundred percent? What is it? All right boys you guys go out. You apologize we're a mask do hands face space rule of six Blah Blah Blah sayers. Sorry. Your country down and then you all playing honestly. Tapie maybe not but I think that was the only could have done any good on him. Either way well does crazed for doing the right decision. Sadly in this world. What we live in man sticking with England Dr. Saudi. Also, patch things up with Joe's Marino although he said, it would not be calling John. All right. So this thing look I. I, the patch up is kind of stuff that happens all the time between national team managers and and club managers. About the use of Harry? Kane. You don't want to pay him too many minutes. Blah Blah, Blah refresh I don't have any shoe waste Marino doing his job to preserve his player and southgate doing his job. Yeah. No, that's. The thing was a John and Gary saying Marino them, Gary Southgate Okay and. Where knowing that Gary is not a short name for Gareth. Yeah. Author Gary was a nickname for mu. That was not how could Marino possibly knows that he's just arrived in this? I mean. If you want, you can call me John. He's not going to be calling him Charles he's moving onto this nonsense. I don't know. Marino misspoke and then came up with the stupid excuse whatever. I don't believe. Marina was trying to wind up. Maybe I don't know of course he was. John Does. Talk on John. John I don't know I. I'm just glad this nonsense is over however speaking of nonsense in new role with arson vendor has we stated an old proposal about replacing throw ins with kickens. Now he's not saying we will definitely do this blah blah. Blah. But he signed talk about. Really your thoughts. And then how many players do we have on the pitch? Two weeks is a different sport. Are we doing different sports still eleven and why would you want to swap the thrones for kicking? How many? Game roughly seventeen point four. You may diabet-. Yet. More than fifty right do you want every single throwing? So he along? Into the box is that we want. We want. So the argument against the argument and favorite and I agree with you, I don't think that this is something you need to mess with. Because he really could turn into a whole bunch of set plays potentially but the argument for this and this proposal has been around forever. It's been around since the early eighties, it's not the seventies. The idea is that when you have a throwing right when when the team is attacking the other team, just put the ball out and then they all have time to come back and reset defensively. Right? And so then I agree I get a throw in but in the meantime, the other teams put eight guys in front of goal right. If we allow if I can kick or even dribble out of my of my throwing if it's a kickin or a dribble, and then all of a sudden I, something more valuable, which is possession I have options. I can either, I can do things different ways and it forces the other team. They can't just bunch up or just press the ball soon as it comes in the way they do yet you're trying hard but no, not now my. Try. You tried hard. Expected on Friday on what to do with WHO traveled terrain to play against Juventus. the weekend. What do you think will happen there The way they are leaning the latest. We've heard but I mean, this is just leaks who knows that this is well, maybe we compromise solution where you've got the win but then Napoli just get a one point point penalty and then we have an uneven number of points. I wanted to be an investigation and the are investigating to find out exactly what happened. I think it's pretty evident I mean from the information we have so far. This will change when new information rises, but it seems to me that there's a protocol the clubs agree to that the government agreed to. And Napoli can follow it. Napoli. We need to stop is widely didn't follow it. Did they maybe not follow it because he didn't have the conditions because they didn't follow the protocol before which is one of the suggestions but. You know I think at some point you have rules you just let's establish the facts I, and let's see where this goes walking I think you've issued say let's play that game. I think he said fail. Three Neil. You can't have a compromise because you. As you said, there's rules but it's easily again they could be postponed and replayed. You you've. Hold your breath they're back. Okay. Jules we're not doing too much time on friendly's, but I know you'll kill me if I don't bring up. Camera Binga. Visual who? A seventeen I style for the national team he's causes first goal after nine minutes. He's an incredible talent is a magnificent. So little overhead kick. So intelligent, he's. So good. BINGO SO WE'RE EXCITED About your new you know but listen the guys thirty, four, hundred cabs very, very handsome Frenchman Hundred Cup. Okay. So he joined a very, very small group is the eight player in history to reach one hundred. I won't name you or but. He's not he's he's the age player in the history of French. Trying to support I think they will find Kobe Johan's as about five hundred calves and yet play for France of one hundred time. He's forty second forty first and forty second goal which takes Michel Platini. Jolson told you who they were playing I. Think they're. Half of their team for the other half for injuries I don't Care Count Christianity was news of Gordon friendlies against like rubbish team. So they'll count one levy much. I love you. But that's a head of an achievement went onto who donald fan boys by the way. This is Julian Lawrence. You'll find him on twitter I can take you just China to just compared Cristiano to alleviate Giroux. No, I did the part from looks. Is there anything. She does better than Cristiano on a football pitch apart from looking better because he's more handsome. Really. Not Play. Okay. gob Junior Fleming's has been bashed a six game. Then fine the UCLA for using a homophobic slur against on Gigolo midfielder Colin Martin who is gay? How significant is this? I think this is this is significant. This is. Significant that we got a lot of attention shout to Landon Donovan who stepped in. There are there are laws in the game about? About the banning racist and homophobic. Language, and a language involves ethnic discrimination. For me this is a bigger reference of bigger relevance because while we want to ban all this language. Using. He didn't just call him gay used a very specific homophobic, all bixler popular in Jamaica. This is a homophobic slurred. Directed at somebody who is openly gay that makes that makes it to me and others might disagree Oh it's you'll be bad she'll be banned, but it is different and more hurtful when you directed at somebody who is gay as opposed to but he not getting us there's actually somebody who's at the courage in a sport which has does not have much of a record in terms of accepting gay players when you directed at Amino exactly what you're doing. I don't know what's going to happen to this guy's got six-match ban. There's some question about his contract while he's. Big? Time. hopefully, this is this is a learning opportunity, but I think what is encouraging is having Landon Donovan is having his teammates players on both sides everybody rally behind. This move beyond this murter. Trash talk with another player. There are certain areas that you do not I have no problem crash talk on pitch either and wind-ups, but this is not a wind up. This is not a wind up. No, the guy is open the game you use this homophobic slur and the previous Game Martin was same was insulted homophobic way they didn't do anything and then the nerve unexpended really well, he said we really. Were blamed us in Fano it and we said the next time the happen. If you happens again this time we will walk off the pitch and that's exactly what they did and I think that takes of courage and I think fantastic. What did According to reports in Spain Harvey, Grassia is ready to quit Valencia over unkept transfer promises Jews. Are we going to blame this on Peter Peter Lim? Like most Valencia fans do I mean come on Robert Garcia a manager this sort haffey squad and they didn't bring anyone zero now even you mean nothing at all I don't even know why you accepted a job in the first place. This is this is crazy. This is crazy club crazy owner who doesn't respect his club he's fine. He's players He's manager He's Coaching Stop Anything Booker I duNNo. I will give him the benefit of the doubt empowers Valencia is a difficult club. Odd. But it ends there it ends there you bought this club. Do you make promises? You made guarantees you then what did you do? You turn it over to George Mendez, right. And it isn't even more because he doesn't care because money elsewhere right now I, think actually they tried to kick him out you horrible thing your daughter by the way I said your daughter, your adult daughter. Say. This. You have this person who goes in trolls them. You go on about Manchester United all this nonsense you inherited a bad situation but was. Paying the club to do you date honestly like there are some really bad owners out there. This guy takes the takes takes you up. So biscuit what I hope. And Gary Neville won't let it happen. I Hope Sulphur City may be success I hope it doesn't turn into the same thing down the road. Speaking of clubs and financial loss losses Roma posted a massive two, hundred, million loss. Gab. The financial year. downfield kin doorway was getting to and has a plan you would think so right? Yeah. Dan Freed is a businessman he. Eighteen months due diligence to buy the club from Jim. Lada. I'm assuming? He knew this Christ it in and it was priced into the amount of money for not evaluation of the club. Would you remember thinking the end? It was five, hundred, ninety, million down from seven, hundred million. A lot of this. A lot of loss has to do with different things. Players did I think. The structured things in a certain way, they would take a bigger hit this year. He knows this and it's it's a whole that they have to. They have to crawl out of he's going to have to recapitalize lobby is going to have to put money in. You hope from Roma Sakes just done sums. Going in this is not this is not a case of all of a sudden. You look under the carpet and you find a disaster I think you know these these are two very hardcore businessmen and they went through it. Definitely the main, the only thing that would contribute. And there were whispers this. Is that this is going to affect the stadium project. That would be really bad. You know they spent so much time and money on the stadium on the stadium project. They've had so many stops and starts Roman need. Their own World Class Stadium as far away as possible from. Loto yeah. Yeah. Definitely. One of the football world, Greatest Heroes Cottam Ben. Is, back, George tell me all about it. He signed border guard outside of the transfer window. That's why didn't really count in that business in the transfer window he paid five five games on the. Season in the second half of the season after joining them in in January. Thirty three still off the sending goodbye Thailand is certainly by. Him and I just hope he does well with. A Win. Monday was about going. And also on the story and quickey, you ignore me. Can we talk about now as it has decided to help the dinosaur? Basically nose. Has Oh look I will pay for his wages for as long as he as. Long as I'm at the club, which of course, is most until next June. Look I, think this whole thing is silly i. think it's I. Don't know if this is a PR coup or maybe he generally likes the guy or whatever. was going to go against you because frankly you paying for this dude's wages is equivalent to me. You know putting five pounds down for somebody. I'm glad that guy. I'm happy for him if he has a family and bills to pay choice but let's move on. And Off Carter's Roy but and it's time for today but we need to have it shut out to our friend Harry who has a broken arm right now a little boy who likes playing football you'll be on the sidelines bit but that's okay you'll come back stronger and I won't be back on Monday, but you will be so stay safe Ben. Stiller.

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The Disagreement Is The Point

"We've known the truth about the president in the Ukraine. Almost from the very beginning he said on the White House lawn to reporters that he did it. So That's settled Donald Fan right. This was the day the Democrats trump Ukraine quid pro quo cool impeachment attempt and hoax folks officially died obviously disagreement is the point from WNYC in New York. This is on the media. I'm Brooklyn Stone. So facts are up for grabs. At least we can rely on numbers to tell. The story turns out the algorithms that run our lives are just opinions opinions embedded in math applying for credit applying for a job applying to go to college applying for a loan. All those things are now algorithmic. So it's really really important to remember that it's not necessarily opinion that you have to share. It's all coming up after this from. WNYC in New York. This is on the media. Bob Garfield is out. This week. I'm Brooke Gladstone. On and here's EU ambassador. Gordon Sunland famously. Repeating everyone was in the loop. was there a quid pro quo. The the answer is yes. Everyone was in the loop. He spoke at the impeachment inquiry this week over which Democrat Adam. Schiff presided serving up an evidence base. This narrative countered by Republican Devin. Nunes is unfounded one. I make this assessment on facts available to all and here's Ukraine diplomat. Louima David home to three priorities of security economy and justice and our support for Ukrainian Democratic resistance to Russian aggression became overshadowed by a political agenda promoted by former New York City. Mayor Rudy Giuliani and cadre of officials operating with direct channel to the White House and former White House. Russia expert Fiona Hill. Some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and security services did not conduct campaign against our country. And that perhaps somehow somehow for some reason you credit. This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves the so called legacy media. CBS saw testimony confirmed by many of a quid. Pro Quo for personal gain. Or what's their trump's defenders had nothing Fox News commentator Jesse waters. The hoax is over. I mean you guys tried failed. You didn't have one witness to testify. The trump directed a quid pro quo involving military not one Fox News host. Sean Hannity. This was the day. The Democrats trump trump Ukraine quid pro quo cool impeachment attempt and hoax officially died. The odd thing about this entire affair is is that we've known the truth about the president in the Ukraine almost from the very beginning I mean. He said on the White House lawn to reporters that he we did it. What's David Roberts who covers energy and politics for Vox who set out to answer the eternal question? How can the president's defenders on Capitol Hill in on Fox News and such like media? Keep denying the obvious keep repeating narratives timelines than outright bs that is continually definitively debunked an NPR PBS Newshour Marist poll published earlier. This week found that two-thirds words of Americans say nothing they here in the impeachment inquiry would cause them to change their minds about whether trump ought to be impeached. David Roberts calls is this a pivotal moment in EPA stomach crisis meaning the crisis in how we acquire knowledge right right the crisis in how we come to know things how we learn things what we count as true who we trust and by the crisis I just mean we're sort of splitting into two worlds not just two. Different sets of values or priorities are sort of visions for the country but two different facts sets it's people dug in to where they're saying things to pollsters like. Look I picked my side. I don't care what anyone says anymore. The Democrats have the field old. They have the talent they have the facts. They have the format but you argue that. It is very much in doubt that they could win by any sort of objective standard if there were a referee the referee would have stepped in and said this is over. You guys have established your case but but it is the lack of referees. That is precisely the problem you would have to have a referee whose word is respected by both sides of the contest. And that's what we don't have anymore. So once is referees can say hey we think it's over and obvious and the other side's referees can just say no. We refuse to acknowledge no legit and in that circumstance. There's just no way to finish the game. So you argued in apiece last weekend on. Vox that this moment is defined by tribal epistemology and that it's kind of like tribal morality rate so its tribal morality. I think is something people are more familiar with. When you decide the welfare of my tribe my group takes precedence over principles so for instance in the mid two thousands? We had a big national debate about torture and the two sides one was seeing note. Don't torture is a principle applies to everyone write us and them but the other side was saying. Look No. We're good people we're on the side died of right so if we torture. It's okay because our tribe is good. So what we do is good and tribal epistemology is just the same thing you put your tribal interests ahead of sort of epistemological principles of evidence and self correction and self criticism and Peer Review. All these sort of mechanisms we have for determining truth. You just put your tribes interests ahead of those so you end up saying we're going to believe whatever is useful for us in the moment. I want to believe I was thinking about the ejection by the president of members of the tribe for betrayal. And and as you might put it episode Democ transgressions for example. We have a tape of representative. Jim himes questioning Jennifer Williams Williams. On Tuesday she worked for pence she also worked for Obama and the Bush administration before that and for the Bush. Cheney reelection campaign is Williams on Sunday the president personally targeted you in a tweet. It reads tell Jennifer Williams whoever that is to read both transcripts of the presidential calls and see the just released statement from Ukraine. Then she should meet with the other. Never trumpers who I don't know and mostly never even heard of and workout a better presidential attack. Two things are notable about that as you say the entire weight of her experience in previous commitments when she crossed the tribe it was tissue paper Mitten Mytton nothing and secondly trump is sort of like exacerbated all this in the sense that his behavior is so erratic in his sort of assertions or sort of changing day by day. So there's no way to even pretend anymore that you're basing your defensive him on principles he makes that impossible so if you want to be a member of the tribe in good standing you have to go along with all of trump's veering back and forth. The fact that Mike Pence did did nothing to step up in her shows that he knows the game. Like well if this is the way trump veered today. Oh well I'm I'm following him. Come what may people generally are too busy to pay. Close attention to politics. They pay attention to fragments aunts and they use shorthand and I wanted you to talk about those hearings sticks. I think it's perfectly normal. And it's not in any way derogatory to see that most people just sort of see headlines and their watch the nightly news occasionally the scroll past it on facebook and so they have to use humoristic shortcuts and one heuristic. That's very strong in all people I think is the sense that if something is valid. If it's makes sense it will command at least some some agreement from both sides of controversy right if you can get consensus it's a signal of legitimacy to take an example if we see a republican come forward and say. Something's wrong wrong with this behavior. That trump did we sort of granted a little bit more weight. But the problem is what Mitch McConnell the Senate Republican leader figured out when when Obama was elected it's fully in my power to just give him consensus agreement across party lines on nothing. The voting public won't won't understand the mechanisms of Washington. Well enough to know that it's me doing it. They just look up and see the president and they say Gosh everything. Obama does just causes a big fight so if the public is just grumpy and disgusted and tuned out because the whole thing seems like a ridiculous squabble that never ends that is absolutely to the Republicans benefit our base will fight alongside us every step of the way and this sort of Unin gauged middle is going to see this mess and just tune out so when we talk about trump's base we're talking about Out under a quarter of registered voters. But what's going on in the hill now isn't about them. They're already onboard this. This is about thirty percent according to the NPR PBS marriage poll that says their minds are still open to information coming to light in the hearings. So what are the president's defenders. Need this thirty percent of us to do or not do as I said. And the way to make people dismiss something is just to make it. Look partisan which is why they keep attacking the process itself and what they want is for that thirty percent to look at this spectacle. Say is just more of this. I don't care I'm GONNA tune out. That's what they want in need is for nothing to break through true to that fuzzy middle. I also think that there's this effort to make these proceedings incomprehensible. Yes well it's just the starkest dichotomy is you're watching now of these sort of Somber Democrats asking factual questions and then newness coming coming in with these sort of random conspiracy theories that if you aren't closely following Fox in the kind of right wing bubble you wouldn't even recognize what he's referring to. WHO Like Democrats on this? Very Committee negotiated with people who they thought were Ukrainians in order to obtain nude pictures of trump. Believe me you don't I need to know but it's like there's this whole Menagerie of conspiracy theories that you won't even know what they are unless you're in that bubble in those are the people that that Republicans are speaking to so if you're just a member of the general public they're literally not going to make sense to you. We saw a perfect example of this on Tuesday when Nunez said this well master Mr Morrison. I have some bad news for you. TV ratings are way down way down. I don't don't hold personally Selena. It's you guys. Whatever drug deal? The Democrats are cooking up here on the American people are buying. What's amazing about that it to me is it shows that trump's mentality is infusing the party now to someone like me or you who cares? What are the facts of the case? Whether or not it's getting good ratings. Seems very obviously irrelevant. But if there is no such the thing is truth. If there's only one side's truth and the other side's truth then. The performance of the argument is the only thing and so two Nunez is the fact that the Democrats performance isn't drawing ratings is entirely relevant in his mind. There is nothing but competing leading performances. Going on here. You wrote that. Democrats are attempting to do something that arguably nothing since the nine eleven when attacks has done unite Americans in a clear understanding of a threat and a clear will to action. And you. You wrote that at this point. It seems entirely possible that it won't happen so what then. I want to predict that it's GonNa fall apart because you can't operate movement in a country based on fantasies but on the flip side. I kind of thought that a long time ago and sort of defied gravity sort of the other way the other way things can go is if this sort of cultish increasingly authoritarian movement takes over the country in Russia and Turkey and Poland writes a disturbingly longer and longer list we Z.. Countries that we thought were democracies devolve into this in the US. So much has happened in the last few years that we thought would never happen. I think we should really loosen up our imaginations to what can happen when a movement that is convinced that everything it knows and loves is in danger of falling apart a movement that's thinking like that unconnected anymore facts are reality and got its hands on. The power of the federal government is the basic basic recipe for democracies falling apart. Hannah around once said no matter. How large the tissue of falsehood hood than inexperience liar has to offer? It will never be large enough to cover the immensity of factuality. But I guess she never reckoned with Cable News and the Internet. I mean. She didn't know about facebook. I mean this are these things. Work right like historians stories. We're GONNA look back and they're gonNA say Whoa. That was an unpleasant in ridiculous episode. And there's going to be you know sort of hearings. We write ourselves eventually really. It seems like but it would be nice if for once when we're in the middle of one of these episodes we could just stop it while it's happening you. You have to think what could intervene in stop what looks like a spiral toward a really grim conclusion. And that's kind of my impulse in writing. The columnist is just sort would've smack people upside the head and get them to start thinking like these are not normal times. What would be sufficient to break through this frozen partisan drift toward collapse and I really feel like the general public needs to get engaged here because of real dangers lurking around every corner? We're here David. Thank you very much. Thank you Brooke David. Roberts writes about energy in politics for. VOX coming up. How algorithms deepen our dangerous misconceptions about how the world works if I get to define success for myself? That's one thing but if facebook is defining success for me I don't trust it. Good Times this is on the media. This is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone. Lightstone so obviously politics has divided us into two camps where we don't share any facts but numbers there in the sand lable right thing neutral well to continue on the path. We began this hour about how we fool ourselves for fun and profit. Let's talk tech want onto predict who's going to default on loan or commit a crime or washout at work we've got an algorithm for that. Mostly they stink but now they're taking over. Algorithms are replacing human advisers and brokers are military uses an algorithm in their sky net program to decide who should be on terrorism. Kill List as being used for everything from diagnosing illnesses to helping. Police predict coin hotspots Cathy. O'Neil is mathematician data scientists and investigative journalist. She founded the consulting firm O. R. C. A.. ORCA which audits algorithms rhythms for racial gender economic inequality and all around bad science. She loves map. She used to be a Wall Street. quant but but something about the financial meltdown of two thousand eight turned her off the use of Algorithms for the purposes of prediction. Something about how knowing actually check to see if they really worked and what happens when they don't and even when they do she's the author of weapons of mass destruction. How big data increases inequality threatens democracy? I started with the basics. What's now go rhythm is just a set of directions long division that you learn in fourth grade as an algorithm use the word algorithm? It's short for predictive algorithm. And that's a way of predicting the future based on the past and we use the training data. That is all around us. When when you say training data the information we've collected from the past like it's memories? They are used to select to whom to give or deny a loan. That's attorney who gets hired and who doesn't who goes to prison for how long there are algorithms and there are weapons of mass destruction attraction. What's the difference? Most Algorithms are totally benign. Like I could build an algorithm in my basement on my computer I could be trying to predict the stock market and nobody uses it. It doesn't matter so I guess. The shorthand version is algorithms that are important that are destructive and that are secret. That's the weapon of mass destruction. Let's talk about `bout some algorithms that you note in your book that are maybe one of those things but not the others. For Instance Sports Algorithms predicting how teams games were players may behave fed data that actually reflect the behavior that they're trying to predict they are regularly updated aided and though they are widely used you wouldn't regard them as a weapon of mass destruction correct so they're very important like in the sense that there's a lot of money behind them and people really care the right or wrong but if they make a mistake that gets learned so if we don't trade for a player and they go to another team and do really well. The Algorithm Rhythm learns that they made a mistake and that's often not the case for weapons of mass destruction but the real thing that distinguishes that is that it doesn't wreak havoc. Can you give me an example of using proxies. You can't actually use the real thing like an athlete's behavior in the League. You have to use something something. That might be an indicator of something else. That's a proxy that characterizes a lot of your WMD absolutely an example of that well the most pernicious example of that is in my opinion. The predictive policing are the crime rate's scores. The recidivism scores police in Los Angeles are trying to predict the future future. We know what happened yesterday. But where's it going to happen tomorrow in the next day and they're not alone. More and more departments are using data driven algorithms to the forecast crime so they predict locations of arrests to say that's where the crime must be rather than acknowledging that police act differently in certain neighborhoods than they act and other neighborhoods. We don't really have crime data if you think about it. There's lots of crimes that go on that. Do not lead to arrests. There's lots of pot smoking among white people but never get arrested. So there's a lot more sort of non arrested white crime than people of Color so when we use arrests as a proxy for crime we are really over burdening those people who are already profile by the police so in that case arrests are used instead of criminal behavior. Yes when I say something. Like arrests are bad proxy for crime. A lot of I'm sure a lot of your listeners are like but people get arrested for crimes. I just want to make a point that I've talked to a lot of police chiefs and a lot of judges about these kinds of algorithms and things they keep on coming back to is almost no real real mental health care in this country so people get arrested very consistently for addiction problems or untreated mental health problems. That's not crime. The police I don't think it's crammed the judges don't really WanNa think crime and yet these scoring systems are basically suggesting since this person is much more likely to be rearrested in the future because guess what there's still going to be addicted or they're still gonNA have a mental health problem or they're still going to be poor and there's all sorts of crime. There's still living in the neighbourhood behavior that could go on Pretty much unchallenged in a Frat House is going to send you into the system exactly so those very predictable things so up quite well. Statistically so that's that is how your score goes up. That's how your you get to that point where you're considered high risk and you're actually sentenced to prison for longer. Her and the judges don't like it. The judges want to be putting people into prison because they're actually a public health risk not because they're addicts. That's a proxy that what characterizes a lot of your WMD. Everybody will understand hiring algorithms. So let's say you have a big company broke you just like Oh my God. I'm getting so uh-huh mini-applications for these ten positions and like I get a thousand applications homing in a sort through them all. I would like somebody to help me and I don't want it to be person because they're too expensive. I wanted to be at Algorithm Algorithm. And so you hire me. I'm your data scientists and I come and build you an algorithm to sort through these applications. We are going to say Kathy. I wanted to hire people that will be successful full at my firm and I'll say okay. Well what do you mean by success. This is where the proxy comes in. You'll say well I don't measure directly whether someone's someone's good at their job because you can't know that because how do you knew that right. I mean what does it mean for someone to do well at your company what do you think okay they stay they stay longtime they generate a lot of good ideas. How do you measure that though? Let's see they get promoted. Excellent okay so we have this kind of triumvirate of data points about each employee. Like how long do they stay. How many promotions? How many raises? This is exactly the way that people measure get your success at companies and this is exactly the kind of algorithm that gets built. So I'm training your data on twenty years of your past practice of hiring people boom implicit bias that we know exists in who gets promoted who gets hired who gets raises. WHO stays for a long time? Feels welcome enough to stay for a long time gets big in to the Algorithm by digest wrote and you observe in the buck that almost all of these algorithms predict behavior. Not on what you do or or what you've done because that's so hard to measure but who you are and I'll just add one last point to emphasize how invisible this might look from the perspective of the employer. Certain kinds of mistakes are much more obvious when you do it. This way namely false positives. which is I've hired someone? They didn't work out. That is easy just spot because what a pain. What you don't see are the people that you could have hired? That would've worked out but we're filtered out. And that's where we see the sort of narrowing bottleneck of who who is deemed future successful. Another thing. We don't really understand how it works but we have to worry about. Its implications is facial recognition technology. What's the problem there? Well there's a bunch of different levels of problems one of them is that it just doesn't work so my friend Joy William Weenie. Mit Media Lab. It was the first to come out with an audit. She's a few audits now Amazon. Most recently where she found that at a technical level they weren't working very well. All companies perform better on MEL's than females and all companies also perform better on lighter subjects then on darker subjects. We saw that all companies performed worst on darker females in fact as we tested women with darker and darker skin the chances of being correctly gendered King Close close to a coin toss so why why does facial recognition work better on white men than black women. It doesn't have to. It just happens to because of the training raining data literally the Corpus of pictures that were used to train the algorithm was much more white and much more male I think joy calcium the Pale Hale mail data problem and believe it or not. They weren't thinking carefully enough before deploying it to the world to say hey. Does this work as well On. Black faces says as white faces. Why don't these companies get ahead of this a little bit and test? This have evidence in advance that this is not going to be unfair who determines if the algorithms are working and how. That's kind of the craziest part and I'm so glad you asked nobody. There is no standard a large company. Says Oh we don't WanNa build these algorithms would want to rent them. Essentially we licensed them from some data vendor and the data vendor says. Oh you can trust this. But we'RE NOT GONNA explain ended at all it's a blackbox proprietary. That's part of the licensing agreement. You don't get to know how this works but you can use it to hire people you can use it if your police department to find the people you can use it. If you're a department of Education to fire your teachers Blah Blah Blah I there is no particular standard which brings us to the issue of. How do you determine win win? An Algorithm is successful. What is your definition of success? I was really moved by your discussion of CL- openings Yeah this is a great example of where the definition of success for the people using the algorithm is the opposite set of the definition of success for the people who are targeted by the algorithm so slope innings is the concept where you are basically minimum wage worker Probably working in a large store and you close on one evening and then you open the store the next morning. And you probably don't have enough time to even go home and see your kids right. It's barely enough time to sleep and the crazy thing is that the scheduling algorithm will for one week make in three days in a row and then the next week. You don't have any work at all. Oh I looked into the research that was developing these algorithms. One of the main me cry. I mean it was so brutal it was like you have the option if you use this algorithm To toggle the switch to make sure that none of your employees get enough hours a week to qualify for benefits. You can just turn this little switch on and and like all of your employees will be wage slaves forever. They will not be able to go to night school because their hours change every day they will not be able to put their kids in daycare regularly it. It is such a small benefit for the employer if you compare it to the wrecking of the life of the employees it's maddening but but it's not actually technically illegal so the Algorithm exploits it. You pose the question. Should we as a society be willing to sacrifice a little little efficiency in the interest of fairness and you talk about starbucks starbucks wants to have a good image it's scheduling algorithm was exposed. Yeah it said that it was going to improve it. No more CLO- plannings no more employing people short of triggering some benefits right but the trouble was that the incentives to managers to be efficient were. You're irresponsible that they never actually made any changes. Yeah I mean it's a philosophical question. It's basically you're saying do we. We have any answer to capitalism. You know all these algorithms that they're using in these corporate settings are about profitability not about happiness so if we want to address that we would actually have to change the incentive structure of corporations. It's a big ask. How would you was says the way that we the general public view Algorithms? I want us to learn to be skeptical. I want us to say I don't need a math a PhD to ask you why. I'm getting fired. The power that we give to the algorithms is the thing we have the most control over who we let me give you another example simple the US news and World Report College Ranking Model Who gives that power us you describe? The impact of that ranking colleges turn run themselves into pretzels students spend tons of money in order to fit the parameters that colleges have adapted to because of the rankings and US News and World report a pernicious feedback loop yet hall it. They're bogus and their game. -Able it college college knows that if they look exclusive than they look better for the ranking so they just get a bunch of kids they know will never make it to apply and yet of of all the stupid things that the US News and World Report pays attention to it. Doesn't pay attention to the cost. It's not one of the criteria exactly when college admissions officers are are crazily gaming the algorithm which is what their job seems to be nowadays. They don't care if the tuition goes up. Why do we keep giving these questionable stupid algorithms so much power if people listening to this interview only take one thing away? This is what I'd want them to take away. You say that an Algorithm Algorithm is an opinion embedded in math right. I mean there's so many choices that go into every algorithm and the most important one being what do we mean by success if I had to define success for myself. That's one thing but if facebook is defining success for me I don't trust it as algorithms proliferate which they are applying for credit applying for a job applying to go to college applying for a loan applying for housing all those those things are now algorithm So all define success for them not for us. That's their opinion right. It's really really important to remember that that it's not necessarily opinion that you have to share thank you so much. Thank you so much Brooke Cathy. O'Neil mathematician data scientist and and Wander of the consulting firm O. R. C. A.. ORCA coming up. I'm not shrill just sound that way way worked together if we were the criticism before she sounds shrill that she showery who's become I'm very shrill shrill she's become shrill. We see so much more of that now that we have more women running for president rather rather than talking about the content of their policy. Proposals were focused on the timbre of their voices. This is on the this is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone. I had to say it but often when women show longer it's not fully appreciated often pushed onto emotionally shoes. Sat Pop saw deflected onto other people former White House. Russia expert Fiona Hill may have been angry but she wasn't shrill. She had the accent and spoke from the diaphragm. Some of US don't not can make moments moments behind the MIC. A challenge. Not because of our voices because of the Mike and the frequency band women who appear in the public eye or rather in the public ear often are derided for the way they sound but how they sound is also a product of how they're heard and and technology has a hand in that in a recent article for The New Yorker Clark University professor musician. Tina talen noted that quote women who speak publicly and Challenge Authority have long been dismissed staff shrill or grading. We've often heard that women's voices are. You're no good for the Radio Jalan says that's been the case since the invention of radio right so there was a great article published in the Radio Broadcast Magazine. In nineteen twenty four in which one of their editors actually interviewed a number of station managers. It was a female editor by the way pretty revolutionary for the time and so she basically went through all of these various complaints that people had and they ranged from everything regarding audio quality saying that female voices voices or people with higher voices sounded distorted and nasal and Tinny chew things about their personality and their senses of Humor. Saying that. They're just not affable will they. Don't manage to really connect with listeners. Or they sound inauthentic and affected all of these criticisms have been established for nearly earliest century now and have it associated with women in the media all the things that were said about Hillary Clinton when she was running we've heard the criticism before she sounds shrill she shouts. She doesn't smile enough like goose bumpy. Feel every time I hear Hillary shrill voice rising even higher higher and higher and Hillary who's become very shrill that word shrill she's become shrill. We see so much more of that now that we have more women. I'm in running for president rather than talking about the content of their policy. Proposals were focused on the Tampere of their voices and of course voices are among the most intimate ways that we encounter people. A person's voice is is like a person's face the voices the site of so so much when it comes to identity construction not just for the person speaking but also for the listener and there are so many patterns that we learn about Who makes certain sets of sounds and how and so some of it is based upon the way that we observe the world and some of it is also culturally conditioned in the way that we're we're looking for WHO's allowed to speak in what contexts now? What's technology used for government purposes? And all of that but radio really began in this country country in the mid twenties. That's where we need to pay the beginning of this tale exactly so in nineteen twenty four about five percent of households had radio receivers by nineteen thirty to sixty percent of households hunter receiver and they were now in place in cars as well. Of course the government Vermont needed to step in and start to regulate because you ended up with frequent signal interference especially in a lot of urban environments and so finally in Nineteen Twenty seven the Federal Radio Commission mission went and decided to allot each station. Its own little ten thousand Hertz slice of bandwidth real estate so there's a segment before you take the signal and modulate it into something that can be transferred in between stations known as the base band or the pre modulated signal that had to be actually limited to five thousand. Isn't hurts because amplitude modulation actually doubles the bandwidth of the signal. So initially they said okay. We're going to take all of our base band signals and limit them to five thousand Hertz. What what that meant was all of the microphones and all of the equipment that people were using to record didn't need to go above five thousand hurts because none of that information would get transmitted right right? So what are we as human beings most attuned to and then what were we able to hear on the radio right so there was some great research that happened in nineteen thirty three that basically look at. What are the frequencies that the human hearing? Apparatus is most sensitive sensitive to and what they found is that we hear frequencies between about one thousand Hertz and seven thousand Hertz more loudly than we hear frequencies at one hundred Hertz so in real life we hear higher voices louder than lower voices and on the radio. What happens what happened? was there was a common thought at the time that women spoke more softly than men. A lot of this came from the result that the equipment that they were using to measure voices were optimized for lower voices by the people developing the technology who were exclusively men in the early nineteen and so they actually were missing a lot of the information at higher frequencies and so when you're not getting the same volume for women's voices voices as you note in your article you get less definition The consonants are heard in the higher frequency ranges. And you can't compensate by pumping up the volume for women's voices because we already perceived them as louder the evolutionary theory he goes that higher pitched voices voices warning or something. Like that. And so. Because the microphones were not as good at picking up these high frequencies. It was all all or nothing right you either. Don't pick it up at all or you get them the maximum amount in its distorted and has that harsh edge on it. A lot of engineers thought well. Women are quieter later as soon as the woman would sit behind the microphone. Many of them would automatically crank the dial up. which meant that? You were going to get those distortions. In whatever higher ranges that the microphone could pick up and this led to a lot of issues with women being called unintelligible Because we just couldn't figure out what the words they were saying we're all we could hear the vowels vowels. There's an engineer you quote in your piece. Who tested his technology with women's voices and came to an interesting interesting conclusion? Yes his name is RC. Steinberg and he was a researcher at Bell labs he was actually one of the more outspoken engineers who would present his research publicly. And so the first mention of this disparity was actually in the nineteen twenty seven bell laboratories record and he wrote a little brief and it was entitled Understanding Women Not Their Voices just women exactly women. He quips that Man's traditional inability to understand women in May have a basis of fact if one so wishes to interpret certain recent experiments in our laboratories and he talks about this disparity with consonants and the fact that people with higher voices does tend to have consonants that lie between five thousand and seven thousand Hertz. The equipment at the time simply couldn't pick those up and so they're actually these experiments where they figured Out The quote unquote intelligibility percentages At different cutoff levels and they found that women were significantly harder to understand when everything above five thousand Hertz was cut off but what's fascinating here is rather than advocating for changing the technology. He ends the article by saying nature has so designed women's speech that it is almost always most effective when it is of soft and well modulated intone so here. He's just saying listen. Leader not built for the radio radio. Exactly Nature has just designed you this way. That's a bummer. Unfortunately that stuck. There's no change in a lot of this technology. This government regulation in terms of the band limiting on these signals really really influenced. How manufacturers started making their equipment and it it stays that way and so what that means is that if something isn't quite up to the quality that you're used to seeing than we just throw away that material right this audio doesn't quite sound good and so therefore I'm just not going to include this? Unfortunately we either completely exclude people or we include with them in a way that diminishes them and so this lack of not only lack of representation overall but lack of accurate or lack of quality representation is a huge wjr problem. We're leaving out the stories of entire demographics ignoring the contributions of people simply because our technology is limiting their ability to exist in our meetings when I began work as an editor at NPR. In the late eighties I talked to a lot of women who were given kind of basic training before they went on the air and this is NPR. They were told they sounded too young. They needed to lower their voices is right. The first time I've seen it discussed was nine thousand nine hundred six. There actually was a telephone. Switchboard operators handbook where they talked about training the voice to become low. Oh and melodious and soft and part of the reason again for that. was because the microphones that were used to pick up sounds and telephone receivers were utter garbage right right in the early nineteen hundreds. They were terrible and so all of this kind of started very very early on you noted something across the ocean the Maggie Thatcher perfect. Yes so when she came to power. A lot of people dismissed Margaret Thatcher as a quote unquote shrill housewife and so between the sixties and the eighties eighty. She actually worked with coaches to refine her vocal image and she actually dropped her voice approximately sixty hertz. That's about half an active in in that range and she was very transparent about this. Many scholars have written about this her biographers written about this and so the fact that she was able to become so successful. I think a lot of people apple started looking at that as an example very much. So I've done a good deal rather speaking speaking in the House of Commons is quite usually have to make up our minds about the cabinet very quickly because otherwise we'll discuss it all former Elizabeth Holmes the founder of theranos which purported to have a great way to test people's blood. It turned out to be a lot of hooey turns very dark but there was a lot of commentary commentary about her voice and this was one of the most bizarre of the deceptions involved in this whole saga her voice. What she could figure Out a surprising baritone was that it would likely cost her a few thousand dollars to get these tests done in this interview with. MPR from two thousand five. We hear you're a very different sounding. Elizabeth no it. Hasn't well I if I used traditional words to describe what we're doing it's hard. That was actually raw audio from Interview that she did back in two thousand five she had kind of let her guard. Down is the theory here and so you suddenly hear something. That's a little bit more natural. Of Of course she realizes it in dips back into this deep baritone but if you go and analyze this recording there's actually a disparity of about one hundred Hertz. which is a huge amount? That's even more than Margaret Thatcher. That's something that surely doesn't just happen. Naturally although her family did say she never exactly and certainly there is a wide dynamic range that it can occur as we get excited you know and we raise our voices to communicate enthusiasm or intensity. But what's very interesting. Of course were picking taking apart her voice and that has no substance when it comes to the actual facts of the court case. Sure it kind of fits into this narrative of deception and so I think it is an interesting interesting thing to criticize in everything about. Her image was criticized from the black turtlenecks. She wore her hair. All of that became part of the saga. Yeah which brings us back to the candidates the word shrill certainly was often applied to Hillary Clinton last time around here. We hear Tucker Carlson doing precisely that in two thousand and sixteen bunch of men both running against her and also in the pundit class who are saying things about her that she shrilled she shouting. We'd be true as you should have to do with the last time you had a man accused of being shrill. That is such a code word. I don't think I've ever heard a man called shrill. Oh Call Tech which you know man on television has called Hilary Clinton Shrill. I'll play because that is a felony offense and everybody knows yeah. I haven't actually heard that. I think one of the one of the most hilarious parts of that clip is the fact that Tucker Carlson is yelling and the female host actually actually is maintaining a very level tone and this is something we see time and time again. So many male candidates stand up there and literally yell if a female candidate were to do the same thing she would be viewed as hysterical can't keep her temper in check and so this is another aspect of this. There's a scholar who has has coined. The term animated. nece about this. The idea that if you do nothing. You're viewed is doing something and if you do something it's viewed as a hyperbolic expression so what do you think we're in a certainly a better spot than we were. There are a lot more women out there. I mean have we finally gotten over the technological logical obstacles of the nineteen twenties or maybe social cultural ones. Well I think we've certainly made a lot of progress us both the technical and the cultural fronts but one of the things that we deal with a lot now is compression algorithms now that we have digital technology and streaming is actually one of the made made modes of consumption now for any sort of audio or video and what that means is that to reduce the amount of data and get it to your computer fast enough forget it to your mobile device fast. It's enough it has to be compressed. We have to get rid of some of the information and a lot of these algorithms disproportionately affect higher frequencies again. Similar to the microphones. Our phones and the old transmission modes of the Nineteen Twenty S. For some reason we haven't been able to transcend that all based on a lot of the same not great research from the Nineteen in Twenty S. So it's still haunts us to this day now culturally. I think we're definitely getting to a point where we're more critically examining the ways that we talk about women and people with higher voices and people with different identities in the media and we're examining how that influences the way that their stories are told and if they're told it all I've noticed a lot of people on twitter. Ironically or sarcastically calling men shrill But it's still kind of feels feels like this very tongue in cheek type of application because there's still this underlying knowledge of the long engendered history of the Salt Do you think this figures into this campaign. I'm not sure yet. We keep running up against this word likability or electability and I think that that has become the new shrill where there are gendered notions of who has what it takes to actually be in a position of authority. We're still not quite to the point where we're able to disentangle biopsies about gender from notions about who can lead and who is fit to lead. Tina thank you very much. Thank you so much for having me Tina talent as a composer musician and professor at Clark University. and You keep saying you got something for me then you call love but confessed best. Hey you've been messing where you shouldn't event a mess and now someone else. Is this getting these boots on a full. And that's what they do. It's one of these days. These boots Gano ALCO. That's it for this week. Show on the media is produced by Alana. Casanova Burgess urges Michael Lohan Laya fettered Sean Hanrahan and ask the chatter Vati. We had more help from Charlotte Garden. 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And we're talking about manny pacquiao terence crawford Breaking news just late last night. manny pacquiao vs terence crawford reportedly looks to have collapsed as the money never came through from the investors who were supposedly going to stage the fight in the middle east. And this is according to michael karp injures so you know there are some that the one act like copying. Don't be breaking news now more breaking news and this is being reported by espn knockout. Which is obviously espn's chaba And he is reporting that due to the fight fallen apart. Pat gal is now in advanced negotiations with earl spence junior so one person is in and the other one is out so you guys finds himself on the outside waiting and you know this is where we are. This is the best report you know. Child salvador rodriguez he's an editor and espn digital You know He breaks a lot of spanish news. Now we'll we'll we'll translate this the best we can You know and let me see your minds. Well screen sheriffs so those that do know. Spanish can laugh check but great report. Great report you know for for for earl big fight you know something. He was waiting for but Yes here's the article it's on the espn dot com. It is the spanish. espn You know but it's called. Espn dot com dot m. x. i guess may go. I'm not sure but yes. Let me see here He says. L. mess julia. Whether trial sold peres us moon book sale on owner. The suspect is stop in the endo inc ladder. Bijon pestle welter nocera terence crawford. I'm earl spencer battle by essex gala possibility that they asked spence in contra login the money back your nope song boca's so the translation is basically the month of june july could bring us surprises Around the world of boxing because The fight that was pending in the welterweight division will not be one with terence crawford instead. It'll be one with earl spins And that's become possible and earl can now be facing living. Legend in manny pacquiao so The same people that reported you know the crawford was getting the fight even though all the reports on. Espn said sources Now they're reporting. That url will get the fi but but again this is spanish. Espn so not the american side Sorry just got six. So yeah man. So this is what we got Chibe is rodriguez. You know he breaks alive cannella news but you know there's not much new information other than the fight and the negotiations with terence crawford fell apart Because of lack of funds you know seeing go. No suppo mass dylan goes the esa. Snuggles is so is like. I say minus. Save the possibility that get back. Yeltsin for tara. Terence crawford seeing margot not say super mass. This crawford seek. Mikey gotta see a smash estaban. I la espada. They locate this data impact month. Meaning it's been weeks since we heard anything Solid about the possibility of pack yao confronting terence crawford and Also there has been nothing about The negotiations for that fight. And mikey as well as others who were also wanting for an opportunity at pat gap so Essentially pack yao is now looking at earl. An article goes on to say that the reason he's looking at earl is obviously because earl brings that type of money. You know So yeah he even talks about the ryan garcia so when he says others ryan. You know crawford spence mcgregor. Everybody has kind of been waiting but again. If you can't get that middle eastern money the only other person that can do it. Especially here in america will be earl spencer junior versus manny pacquiao. The question is do you believe how can make pack out happy enough again. These are just negotiations. That doesn't necessarily mean that they have finalized anything but is looking promising. I mean you. Who would've expected that you know. It would have happened overnight. One fight falls apart and the other one automatically becomes the runner up. That was pretty fast. So i mean it has been two full years since manny pacquiao. Been in the ring but you nez. Give us your fight. Picks for this weekend. Well well. let's go to espn since we're here. Actually this get outta the spanish. Espn took your. I mean listen cows. You're more of a better than me. But i i've been i've been really wanting to put in like a like a nice paul. Lay a lot of winners right. A lot of guaranteed winners and then berlanga decision belong decision is like eleven hundred plus eleven hundred so you know that probably just in case just in case you know little light sign sign. Light will still get you right. I'm telling you at a plus eleven hundred plus if you lay would like for guarantees. But i'm doing a lot of upsets this week. Manam picking with my heart and my sleeve. I don't care. I'm going christopher diaz. I'm going balanga. i'm obviously going to hold sway vargas. I'm going Adorno for them. I'm going zaire's zan desires. And then that's it man. I mean can shiro already one. And there's no more fights i mean. Obviously you got the london fights. So i am going. Where's the oh should have happened already was going on. Wasn't phillix cash for tonight or today. Hail maybe he's already on maybe is already on. I don't know but yeah. I'm picking up set for now the man you know what i'm saying. I fuck team nelson and and and and goose mind So yeah man. I hope that i told you before. I hope that Hosego's mama comes the puerto rican joe goossen. You know what i mean. Maybe you know he's he's he's he's gonna be on. Tv today. will. Jose vargas host wave august and You know you never know. We see him in a corner there where christopher d. as because it's all the same camp but not much not much day i mean i i i want bentley. I think bentley. I don't know if the deaf. I happened already but you know i feel like bentley. Might be cash. I know people. You know pigging cash but not very many fights now. We got some super chats and that was Killick house and callie. Next one is from pheno. Guile pheno he says spence came up and swoop the pat fight big fish big fish emoji. Damn yeah i mean i don't know. He swoop it up or the pack. I'll go to the next best thing. Obviously there was more money in the middle east. And that's why pack hours waiting around for that opportunity We got super supermax. Sue says no fail negotiations but no no fail negaotiations. Bud just didn't wanna sign. But honestly i think pack waiting on conner to see what happens in his july. Re-met i mean i know you will spend fan so so so so i guess hey in on bud and say oh you should have signed. Is i dunno something you want to fuck with. Why would i sign a contract when there's no money show me proof of funds ain't that were eddie. Said it was good for. Aj eddie wind. Ain't good for buzz. Show me proof of funds. In wisdom money. Money came through and so is salvador driest. So why sign a contract with no money. No my knee but did staying. Listen we do got a an a virtual press conference scheduled for today. With mario and show kit It is for eleven. so we'll see. Are they going to show up and we also got another one with lids low and swin from orlando lives lows from decatur georgia. So we got another super chat firm matt machine gun gar cease three times boorda wars participant says will the big fish. Please stand up big fish. Big fish emoji texas boy standing up right now for a guy. Everybody's happy early in the fight. Listen there's no more belt on the line though so like is this not like i mean. I don't wanna see anything except joe. I thought it was strapped season. You gonna fight. Pack out of a two year layoff and not try to make the fight bud like i i know his fans was cool with him going to get the other belt from guys but now if he got the belt from google guys on the line here like what are we doing all. Do you think the rumors are true. I heard there's rumors that was trying to get his belt back in court so not core but like maybe emotion assumption like sent a petition. Mather i mean why the pack out some machine gun because you know he wanted to believe you know he wanted to believe it could happen is all i assume but they did report. The pack out did sign. We got another super chat from killer cows. Who says how confident are you with vargas. And i'm assuming you talking to host wave august. I mean willie. Shaw look at his picture. In case i know him and didn't know am not recognizing his name. Because i know vargas ain't You know the best. But he's all worker. He you know he gets hit but you going to knock him out to get a win. I mean omar. Juarez got a you d versus show. I mean i don't see not in in huge here. Why would show be you know. Vogg as a f- in continentals. Some shit like. I mean this young man is to do you know emma. Sorry from kelly. do you know him. i mean it. What is he fought ten. Okay that's tall dam is named the true. Oh but i mean he just gotta gotta tune up in in in in mexico so like i mean lie man i mean i'm i'm confident enough to pick vagas. That's for sure i'm saying Shaw glad to make me a believer. You know what i'm saying. He wanted to make me a believer. But we got a sway book. Well he says does many get his belt back if he fights before yuga since he was champion in recess spence pac man. Face winner of olga's thurman is a failed in the fail on. Excuse me in the fall. Excuse me excuse me in the fall. Three big fisher. Moses now i think that if spence impact official. Wba is act reinstating the same way that the wbz the to my good friend. Devin haney reinstate him if he signs to face as you know. I'm ready to fight. They made them champion in recent. I thought the strip and the champion recess is different. He can just call your. I'm fine supermax. Back another shot out of the supermax three times money. So that's why i say. Pat waiting in kana has tagged nobel. You crazy. that's because you don't wanna make early. Look like he's looking for fighter. This two years off you know and with no belt but at the end of the day we all know earl going for that that legendary name crawford was. I mean if you've got an opportunity to fight back cow you better fight back out especially the thurman you know what i'm saying. And that's that's definitely a way to not have to fight durham and like not not saying that. He doesn't wanna fight them but he doesn't wanna fight derm. You know what i'm saying. He doesn't wanna fight him from a personal level. So it's like if you beat demand demand. Doing that man coach rivera. Boston would up. He says i know adorno is not going to win. I seen jeremy ortiz fight and he did spar rashi. The kid has skills nasty pressure and has conditioning for colony upset on which adorno jaime ortiz. Okay so you you know what i put that in the chat bro. I can't show you because it does excretia the my messages. But i promise you this morning. I'm going to show you what i put right so i'll put yo. We gotta fight. When i seen that face off with jerry with joseph and jeremy. So i'm gonna show that right now because yo- you right. Jeremy looks like he ain't playing. When i seen a sham right away. I threw it in my chat. My pre pro. Like i seen as we gotta fight. Look at jeremy. I gotta start it over. Man that means the refresh. You gotta see how he does like man get out the way bra and then the donald does the same thing the dotted not. You'll get outta here. What flex scoring down. But he's bigger by a mile and who knows maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe coach rivera's right and they cash donal out. They seen him get a draw. He fought since the draw. You know what i'm saying. Maybe they cash in them out. I i never seen jimmy but thank you. The thing is. He's not even on a bookies man i they don't even got him on a bed in line. I gotta check these on a bed. Allowed with draftkings but I don't see him on any other bet size which i got for jeremy. It's such a such a low fight that that's how they do us man. We don't even though florida just passed the law Sports bed and so hopefully they hurry up here. Do we guy any any any. Joseph adorno bets cows. Let me know what you got. Put it in the pre pro. Are there any lines for dornod. Because i don't got nothing. I got berlanga now about eight did in common. No adorno noah. No man tell you. They make contain popular enough. But you know who's popular the brothers from texas little about the call you big cinema big supermax and machine gun. They tied team man and machine. Gun came with ten rounds of ammunition ten dollars super che said pacman running for president. Soon the time to step up his last fight is running out. And these are big fights. For crawford and spence. The philippines will follow and lots of pay per view buys jouenne lion ju- lion. They got another super chat from coach in boston. Who says is in the bed in line of donor was the underdog. Yeah you you got another cy. I mean you know we're limited here in this side man. I mean you in boston. So i'll know but even though i think boston is already full blown legal marijuana as well and so you just ahead of us. But i don't got nothing on draftkings all my bookie But if you're gonna use my book you don't forget to use betsy. B v saying it's going to bless you double your deposit but let's reto darnold quote though. Oh year tomorrow and underdog. All work is done them and he got are not fighting for him. So that should domi. Not in lebanon We'll see robert easter. He said i'm geeking. Let's go little bra tyler. Mccarey to oh my man. Chris colbert deborah haney riding omar martinez. Why i'll stephen not dan this this antonio tarver heavyweight right here ryan daddy's per seen dollars whereas my life never seen him fiber crazy shit but then my man got a lot of people round with him. Let's see what the can he do it. He is small and jeremy is big lord. That's a nice tattoo boxing. His love us a nice too. So yeah man That is the report and that's what we were doing reporting on the latest. It's it's like a miracle round little saga. I told you. Boxing is is is a telenovela and this is definitely soap. Opera is definitely a soap opera because One day crawford one day. It's it's earl one day it's connor. One day is ryan one day. It's you know. Floyd it's crazy. Boxing is definitely a soap opera. Oh shit so. He got adorno minus two seventy five on vodka. No ortiz's monitors endings are domino's plus two hundred dam dam so yo a coach rivera didn't even give us a tip because the budding the budding lines no jeremy it's vat damn i mean only then you can do if you want to donald fan. Put it on but the door knowing full since the draw join killer kells with a super chat five super chat letting us know the odds on provider invited. Don't even fucking were in florida either. Hate that shit at on work but we another super from guy though who says i know. It's a good opportunity. But i want undisputed. Yeah i want undisputed too. But i'm telling you it ain't gonna happen if they're gonna offer impact galman. You've gotta take the legendary fight that's going to get you talked about. What may whether you know doing it. Better than mayweather not losing like like like like like german all that gets talked about getting the actual fight that the do you want him to fight right. Couldn't get it. that makes them more popular. So you know. It's a listen like like at thirty five. It's a race to ryan at forty-seven is the race to you. Know manny pacquiao. But you know for us. It's a race to one hundred twenty thousand one hundred eighteen thousand three hundred thirteen subscribers today. This fine saturday morning. If you rock it out with tb come on issue. Ragging on with tb. We may if you all telephone to subscribe to the youtube channel. Help gets one hundred and twenty thousand before my birthday may thirty first you already know. His mafia can gemini season like strap season here man. So man We're going to have a press conference. We got show kid who is ready and Which is waiting on. Mario to get this thing cooking in no but we are talking but crawford and his fight with with the pacman collapsing and that allowing an opportunity for a guy like irl to get the big fight in no but this is being reported michael carpenter. He's the one reporting that. The terence crawford fight fell of part and salvador of e. s. p. n. Is reporting that the earl spencer fight is happening in line. So no it's not clear bait. My friend i guess you. You are probably a but crawford fan and you're upset that url is now getting the fight. I get it. I won't even times you out. You're entitled to be upset. The gym man ain't getting the fight but Yeah man this is this is. This is what we woke up to. You know some of you on the west coast. You've got this news last night. You know but that does intrigue. I know you out. This does open the opportunity up for a possible fight with thurman goss now if earl is busy with pack down that leaves all guys available for thurman ordinary whoever outfields is the benefit you know but they definitely need a fight to get his popularity up. You know but we're talking. Pack versus spence for july which is around the corner. Now that the crawford fight falls apart for lack of funds. That money never came through. And that's according to michael carpenter Listen we're gonna take little intermission. I'm not going anywhere and just play a little song while get this coffee. Because i'm alone. Solo dolo scarface. No no low and and when you alone you gotta do things alone. You know what. I'm saying. But i can just sit here without the gotha zeno man. We got a super chat sarcastic. Sarcasm necess- working everyday everyday. Listen it ain't work if you love what you do and like. I would love to see earl. Spencer versus pack out. We seen how that thing look with. Mike was there. So imagine if pack yao an earl. Do it in jerry stadium. But i i want to. I want to be there. I don't think started the day. Find out the chromium. Think we ain't. You don't be surprised if we hit like funny may suck punch trying to let them know that they got got these like they don't want got. The hottest like south directions win even tried to pry chose to keep the sec for most. Do the gloves club push comes to shove. They say what i call the straight. Let's go around him place of your income the prizefight ball can't wait seventy the would you say. Thirteen deals classes with big bad bad. As president trump jack flash titles but the the real last ship prize fighters plenty. Taking care of bucks tonight starts outburst with mike good please go up mission noble. The kid is back you see. I got that flow. Just ain't got the versus. You know definitely got that flow. I heard the young whole all in in the voice. You know what i'm saying but we back we left off on sarcastic sarcasm. Thank you for your five dollars super chat good morning everybody salutes sarcastic sarcasm salutes guy though sued the kale's salute the machine salou to coach that. I'm boston out there we. Cdl is getting russia. Look in beefy. Bre he short herself but why he looked so stock down shout sway. You know saturday by showing love early in the morning. God oh god you'll fee. No god you'll phenol and out to you Davidian i see you. Press one when you ready. Skype is open. Anybody wanna rock out. You can add next to gives you wanna give us your thoughts on this call in we willing to take your call you out. I wanna hear you voice your opinion let us know what you think about earl getting the big fight or do you just think. Is this cat. Somebody in a chat definitely says is cat. They like go this. Is you know early getting fi and there was people that believe that crawford would never get the fight. So do we just believe pack. You'll never fight. It has been to us. I'm saying it has been two years but listen. Don't forget to tell a friend a telephone and to hit the subscribe button. I gotta keep reminding you haven't been reminding on. We ain't getting the same amount of subscribers. Do we need to try. And get to one hundred. Twenty thousand numbers is power the more power the more interviews. The more interviews. The more people are going to jump in and be part of the show. We want you to call in one to five five six nine fifty to forty one voice your opinion We got a big big big dog super chat coming through. Who the big doll. Who's this who's this they call them. Christopher pockets fat. Leave twenty bucks on a super chat. that's a dub. I did go get a grammy graham and roll it up matter of fact in the name of that light. That's a twenty dollars sacchi sat. He's when earl and terence were talking earlier out our plan. Danny then sean. They've done everything they said. Why wouldn't we think earl not getting the pact fight. I don't know why he put. Not you mean why. Would we think he's oh. Yeah why would you think he's not gonna write you right. The only reason we don't the only reason we question it is because pack yao dropped his belt. Impact cow left the flock so to speak like four minute. He was and then for second. Free agent shit i want. I won't ryan i want tamarins money from saudi. So that is what got people like damn does out still got pat in a way where he could get that fight for bats. What we really don't know. And that's why we kinda skeptical because we see impact out here openly negotiate and with the world. Like if you were out while you ain't just make this earl fi and we could have been promoting assists six months ago. It would have been big if you will our while. You ain't just take the fucking fight right in the ring after. Mikey garcia floyd. Was the building a big tom. Floyd i'm a beat your boy and i want my rematch. But no you didn't do none of that. So i don't know i don't know they got a pool. The day could really get my in this fight. And by that i mean the big fish big fish and he coined that phrase in box in the tables turning they damn sure turn was out his. Ain't even thinking about the earl fight. I don't want that fighting. no more. He thought he hasn't sun and now he got it now. Back to the big ficials tables turned again. But if you haven't already hit that thumbs up on getting do so we at one on one with zero thumbs down on. Somebody's dumbs down. Now that i said it but i feel good not to see any thumbs down there so keep your thumbs up. Let's get this show out there to the world man. We talk in boxing. We're talking manny pacquiao Versus earl spencer july. That's some round the corner. That's exciting for me. That's that's big news. That's good news. We got a cash cash. Shut two keys man a key man. I see you. I see you with the with the beach. Turn blue sky man. Wow key shaw. I mean what were you in the florida keys. Like you do your thing though. I see it with the beach chairman. Shout out to you in a chunk lead is with the garona sent that five dollars. Super tidy said the pack. Y'all circles continues that there's actually a word for ellipses you know. You know my pronounciation skills in a basement but that would be like right. They're like yo. That's the punishment like yo ness you either you either. You either get free in. Live the rest of your life doing whatever you want or pronounce in order to do that. You've got to pronounce it properly as rap. I'm being embiid done. i'm going to be done. But we got another super chat. We gotta get to man. Shot out to those brave souls. They'd be wearing these new easy boost. Seven hunters them shows by sued. Ib menem shis garbage man. I can't believe he'd be making them garbage. Is people be wearing them. Since i'm telling i'm three fifty may keep me at the three fifty's our none of that cabbage. But we gotta gado back with another one. Damn a couple. Three peter's let me give them a shout out to my three peter's today so we got supermax. Ooh super you ain't at three peter. Oh i thought. She was in three peter today. Let me double check that okay. So that's definitely kale's three pizza and then we got coach rivera coach very three. Peter is so is to is to ya until ya and the running right. 'cause gado gado gado gotta gotta gotta got no talks regardless so is the machine it is machine gun. Boom boom boom right. Let me see. I'm taking out for a loop dues. Like what the hell is he talking about. How many times. Each person has super chatty but no machine gun is done it twice. Supermax has done it twice. Kells is definitely on the tracey. He did it three times coach revert two times and godel two times. So there's a hunt for the three three three three super chat gangs but a guy though says girl in labor so i can't call dan. Congratulations hope everything. Works out man. I hope you'll get a boy you know is not a lot of us can do boys. I'm just saying look at the statistics in the world. Not everybody can have a boy. Some dudes have one boyd. Three girls one boy seven girl so shout out to you. Hopefully you get no complications and everything works out. Well you have a beautiful baby. But he goes on to say but we need to push guga's versus bud if ej fight pat shoutout to tb. push who. oh no. no you trim i. I hear you though i you know. I got other plans for guys man. I'm sorry man my plans for guys. They've always been keith thurman man like he's got to go to keith thurman tests in order to you know move forward now me they. Oh kief that man keith. Been out putting it down for. Pbc since day. One they they they okay. They o'keefe that you know But i get you you know you wanna be an affair boxing universe. You want you guys to fight crawford to make his own legacy and crawford gu-guy so the tables are turned again and even an earl and crawford could to make a fight without a back and forth bidding negotiations but that's a perfect world guy though that's a perfect world man. I don't know that we lived there. But i see my man is in is in here. We go out to him Early in the manana right. That's that's on the west coast. Yeah he's up. 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A may was i to be rumor with ryan man. I don't know. I think at the end of the day i think is going to be our like for each day to get it or to get the pack fight but i for some reason. I still think it's gonna be mikey man for some reason. I don't know man. I think it's gonna be mikey. But if if he fight. Ej i think bob it'd be able to afford ugadov. I think that shouldn't be eastern media to come out the pocket that much for you guys. But i i would like the you guys thurman fight if if a five pack also too but May i think it's just all rumor. Still nest man. We ain't going to know until the contracts sign no man but i still think in the back of my mind cause mike yam fought in a while too and i think it's going to be him especially because Pack but you said pack might get reinstated with the bill so he definitely remember haney. Got it done. Yeah so Man We can't wait to hear what the rest of the callers got man. That's all i got brother. Thanks for the show. thank you brother. Thank you for calling him and looking like these. Do sleep here saturday morning. I know it's beautiful out here. In in florida and kelly. So you know it's understandable. That means joel. Why way i guess it ain't As gray and the rest of the other states. But i'm experiencing beautiful weather. Nice eighty four and sunny palm trees blowing in the air great news that i woke up to coffee cup. Joint rolled up zola. von south. what what. What does salvador out shout out man Let me see what we got. Let me see what we got. I'm in the background communicating with Francis who's trying to make sure that we get our virtual press conference going but in true a mario fashion he is findable. I'm telling you look i you know. I got zero hair on my talk. Show kid i get another fight man. I can't keep going through. That shit does need. Let my regular get like three fights in a row. Actually you can't even like who who's gonna take a chance. But what i'm saying is like he needs to prove that shit like consistently before somebody take him he'd be tripping but chairman earl spence aerospace men. Oh okay troy smoke alarm. I know you was in. Kelly shot human. Only difference between khali and florida is the humidity in ya. Ya water's freezing. Yeah might as well be in in the atlantic with that cold water. Well not the atlantic but you might as well be down by jersey with that colas water Would be freezing beechwood. It'd be freezing. We gotta gotta super chat via cash app saving us. That thirty percents out to my man hawk in maryland with the five dollar. Go your dunkin donuts. Coffee super chad. He says terrorists cooper has no financial backing. I mean he got. Bob got bob. You know what i'm saying but listen you there's nothing to laugh at in that supachai because the thing is like pack our represents big big money. You gotta have big big money to make that fight. You got an. If you don't have big money your your pay per view with that person has to be projected to do big numbers. And i guess that's the issue man. I guess really. That's the issue. Somebody tell me why. Let's think about it like this right. Yeah keep wondering. Like damn negotiations would pack gallon. Fill somebody tell me. Why is it so hard for. Terrance and bob the make a fight with pacquiao. Meanwhile out did it with bruna and keith real. Quick real quick brunen keep. It wasn't all list like oh bronner might fight back alan. Saudi arabia fell negotiations. O keefe might fight back on saudi arabia. Oh no they just made them fight. They put him on pay per view. Fox took it so why. Espn interested in crawford versus pack. Yeah it's bob bob. Don't wanna pay. Would he knows pat gallon in. Crawford is worth like so you tell me earl ca fight pack you on fox but but but but can't fight him on espn like why. Don't they have the money that don't make any sense member. We going out to rainy seattle washington. Hopefully he's got his umbrella. Misters he widely with shot. The horse mr a baby yo-yo-you this. Ppc baby beautiful things happening in this world to people who do beautiful things shot out the bird. Maybe he can find who gas somebody like that. Pedigree get about I can't wait for this fight. Man a side He's definitely going to be sixty. Twenty maybe maybe eighty twenty. I can't wait for this fight and hopefully but eventually dissenting. I'm definitely gonna pay for this fight and hopefully the bud boys are too. That's my yeah now. This is a big fight. This is a big fight. You know Jerry jones you going to sell this out you can sell this out and ask the difference you know. All the money does have to come from the network to pay. Pack out for earl fight. They got those tickets. Man and earl did rue good numbers remember. He did better tickets than Cannella in texas. So if earl goes the texas again this time pacak expect to see you know a huge gate revenue buffalo falls what up dividend. actually pretty. Nice out here in buffalo exciting. I mean you know many versus a url or or or or bud man. I was born to get that pfizer. I guess the tables have really turned like mixed tables. You know i'm excited ours. Went to see that he living legend. I love manning so it should be a good fight you know as fans and so no no hopefully be sweet obviously terrorist training so i was hoping the main for is when you need it. So well if he does get sweet We just have to see how it plays out but thank you For the turn and goblets We have another call ahead. Let me see. Let me see hall maryland than what. I also was a good morning. Good morning good morning my brother. Yeah man You know you got you. Got bob like you say bob is like bob don't believe in do like if Just take take for instance if Loma had never lost. Do you think would be searching full of fight right now like that. Would bob had put together for him. Now it's like you know but he's been turns you know what i mean and maybe turns you know If you look at early data a stadium you know. He's linked up with a channel with channel Linked up with his failure. You got a lot of. You had a lot of back in with him. You know you might get all mikey garcia products new at that And then Backyard petitioned for bill to get Get that built back. so There's a lot going on. You know it's not going on but This is my opinion. I think is going to be turns. Crawford i mean that's probably but they'll spend in a and or mikey garcia. I might get that back. You might because can train them right now right. I don't know man. I mean him. I got a good. I don't know man he. I am in phantoms or rolls royces. Or whatever then thing is he been right. I don't know man about him. Trade how you say training know. They say he trained him. But i don't know that stomach healthy for you know like you just enjoying life. But as i don't know man is the url getting cooler. But it's it's not. It's not like it's really messed up. That turns can't get his name. He can't get a position. A real good position boxing poise. It's it's real bad medicine bad to be that talented. And he keeps sticking with. Bob and bob keep sticking it to him but anyway i guess that's what he chooses but a Great show and i'll be listening. Thank you i think. He ain't son because he don't wanna let bob stick it to them again. That's that's what it is you know. I think he did smart up. And that's why he didn't sign But yeah man. That's how i'm looking at it because that's what the reporter semi. Oh pack som- crawford didn't so crawford lightnin sonnen shit until you make sure is real but swin orlando twinning orlando. He's scheduled for his press conference later. Today he's going to be taken on decatur georgia's own lids asi something in twin from orlando low twin. What us yeah No man yali believe. Believe anything manny magnon I can't believe how many people he's been. You know suspected the fight. Whatever man like this it. This is he sobbed. He's shopping themselves. You would do the same thing you if you're a contractor you trying to see who's giving you the most for your job no man i just don't believe it man when he got an ring world especially with mike you fight i just i just. I didn't buy into like he wanted it. May you know remind me of like. I was thinking you. We should go like you know senior friday when a dude is try and get back from people and the deal. His as well ever was deibel right. Who was at mikey. Was the do the bike back and many was the former. He's you in the mail. Is i know that. I don't think any car roll out the any. I don't believe i can't believe this man. I'm sorry. I i'm not going to be believed this but hopefully it happened and i'm wrong but i just can't believe that smuggling right. Well listen. it's hard for people to believe because it's been so many people right. We got rumors of paco. Verses ryan pack versus contact pack versus crawford back versus floyd pack versus earl and Has been one more pack versus jake. Paul none on. That's me that's me your show. We got stone bone boxing. What's up man. been a long time. I although good brother he'll oh man. I'm blessed committed less. Hey and i hope yeah. Hope earl get the fighting man noah. I'll just won't would be to be happy for earl. You know like a lot of them was very sad. That crawford was get the fight. They was called He's got the building or worked the forty million year old man. But i ain't gonna play that game it probably the fight. The good fight with would also bill. So i ain't play that weird al shit dude was playing. I kind of agree with you is is if the view extension may know matt at this point. It's like running along race looking at the finish line. It'd be an acl you. Hey you know if you win this race. We don't add a another two miles. You gotta run. That could be done so this path. Y'all find his work in extension. That was on the table. I wanna find it either. I'd have been just the why big client in earl or maybe fifty toward the. I mean like the stooges pack. Y'all for a million. I don't think is working. You know bible trying to put something in that contract. It ain't gonna be no one or two. He's going to be like a one or two year so that'll be four or five so on anything. Be right for those. That don't understand. You're saying the reason you believe. Crawford didn't sign the contract with pack hours because it could possibly had an extension attached to it and a contract yet and like years or or extra fights added when we all contracts would have expired in october which are saying yes. Thank being appeal. He'll listen peo- hat less calm before he fought lonely when he saw loma he agreed to an extension in their contract. It went for two years. It added two more years the more years with pack hours because so hats and attached to it and a contract yet or extra fights add a man jumped on but he got his whole system poem. But go ahead. I'm sorry i was just saying like peo- had some years the fight. Once he called loma agreed to that by now. You've got four years left. Bob arum toted this watch. These contracts these title price. Ucla contracts mess of earl lease a url fight. Maybe it won't add many don't have titles is linked got situation going on. It's not a promotion contracting is more yourself. hey learn to thirty million to get. that fight is worthless. So thank you for calling you back. Francis talk to me was going on man. What's going on my bad. My apologies pop yourself to all the jamaicans. All the people around the world man. Big up your damn self. Give yourself a hug. You know what. I'm saying it's a beautiful day man Patio spent you know what i'm saying. July maybe crossville apartment. That's that'd be a boss move. You know what i'm saying if you can slide in and make that date happening But you know pack. You don't pick pack. Yeah what's up next. Sorry for the little london earlier. What up nine house or august happens. But yeah you you you kind of set the best man like this isn't a laugh at anybody that didn't get the fight because you don't pick pack out you wish. Pack cow pack out picks you and and if he does pick you then you know you do your best to try and rip the torch from the legend but you know at the end of the day pack picks you and right now i don't know of antibody nozoe pac man Mikey was in talks. Conor mcgregor was in talks florida's always been in talks. You know you got spent at one point you know. He fought term. Which was surprising. You know me out of the young fighters and then now he's back and forth between you know what i'm saying. Well he's gonna fight crawford or not or maybe that's just people speculating and he put the name in it. You know what i mean. Definitely man let me check the phone lines and super chaz because we got to wrap it up we got a twelve o'clock virtual press conference for our border war series in watertown wisconsin. Mario vs show kit. The press conference is going down in a few minutes. So i'm doing some some some checking here making sure we got to. Everybody talked to me. Did you get to boxing. Pedro i did not buy thrown vaccine patron says the fact. We're still talking about pack. Still fighting is crazy. Hashtag legend how i mean. Look him in baha. There's been people who've done it george. Foreman there's been people have been fighting past their forties at the high level but they're all legends and packed like you said living legend man. But that is the last supachai and gets all the callers. I think no. Actually we got some callers over. Here is the real quick though the fact that if i'm not mistaking pack a smaller than florida in terms of stature Much smaller does come up. Eight weight divisions still competing at this age is something to be talked about men off. I'm talking starting from solo. And all you pass forty you still competing man that that's that's that's unreal man. That's real people start late in their careers and they played later on chris but this is early days man. I'm shot up to pack yeoman. And all he's done years and years and his sporting continues to still still be on top of the sport after so many years Let me get a supermax us. Who's on sky. Parts dot com. What what up. What up masks. What francis i doing this morning my cowboy were happy. You know what man. As much as i would love for air to get this fight and trust me i i wanna get this easy money i kind of i don't know if he gets the belt back. Maybe i could see it happen. But i truly believe that. A pack as weight. Onto see conor mcgregor can be corey and their their trilogy fight. It's great get that win back. It says that fight rat backup. That's in july And you know what's Stone brown brought up a great point. they might have been trying to get get crawford to resign at the end of the day. If he didn't get that if he didn't fight at least you won't have to re sign the top rank. But i don't know matt peck has just been on this care sale But without the bill. I don i don't see it being aro- But who knows at this point. We'll see fox. because era. did mention accidents released their their scheduled coming up so it made gave me the impression his deal was done. But i mean i guess if pacak comes colin find out right is true. Good point he did say that woods did insinuate yo. My fight is set and i to announce it damn you right. Yeah but i mean. Like i said pack comes colin mandy. You not find a way out of that. So i guess we gotta wait and see let i think he's waiting to see on what happens with mcgregor in natural But that's just wanted to correct something fee real quick. You said that patio is on the carrizo. No patio is the carousel. And he chooses if you wanna take the ride on the carousel. When you're right you're right. You're right but yeah so we'll see. I think it's going to end up the mcgregor if he can pull off the win and that shows you fight. That's big money. Still supermax a i wanted to point. I want to ask you a question. you know. Go cross your mind quick but seeing the fact that you know what i mean the funds hasn't come in i mean when have you seen the middle east who is so invested in boxing coming their way to to bring it to the fans. Their money's always good. I've never seen always not always only seem two fights over the offers has a has. They had that we've been that's what i said. He's been known to get it done but we've been hearing more focus talk amount. Oh middle east one despite to buy one this for years. That's never happened. So eddie well actually never happened to the world super series. Did it shot up to the sutherland. Brothers they did. It would dissolve and and george groves and callum smith. I was someone like julia does. Writer and the other one year in saudi arabia. I don't know there were somewhere. But we gotta cash at. And that's from anthony m von lou. This is a thinker. He says it's a three dollars. Superstar says huge news on that on the way from the weight division o. T. w. now. Ot w also could stand for on the way so as he doubled up on the way or is he's trying to say ot ws or the initials when you see ot w ot. W who do you think odor were auto auto while so wild violent or whatever the fuck it is counterparts but anthony. John lewis that was two cryptic champ. Eat more information to even begin to understand what you were super chatting counterpunch from seattle. Talk to us. Mr bbc on this call and with the fact that Bob was trying to get another contract underneath that many baggio. I'm also with you can't sell. They probably would looking at the numbers. What are we doing here. We're just throwing money into a pot There's a lot of factors on. Why the many petco five-party didn't happen. 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Action Documentary w/ Producer Bradley Jackson

Sports Gambling Podcast

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Action Documentary w/ Producer Bradley Jackson

"Sports gambling podcast is brought to you. By my bookie dot AG. The official online sports wick of the sports gambling podcasts. Use the promo code S. G P fifty for a fifty percent deposit bonus today. Welcome everyone to the sports gambling pack. Sean stack the money green with my partner and picks. Right. Real money. Kramer, what's happening Kramer, not much not much on just another day in paradise. Yeah. Little special in the students. We are doing a special bonus podcast. Joining us in studio is the producer of the four part sports betting documentary available on Showtime on demand in the finale this Sunday, eight pm east, Bradley Jackson, Bradley, what's up, man. How's it going guys? Thanks for having me, dude. Thanks for things are coming on the show. You're doing the Lord's work. Yeah. Voting. Promoting sports gambling, even even our names. This. This. I think you'll appreciate this. Because in the documentary, you guys kind of kind of like show every side to the the world of sports gambling. You have some professional sports gamblers, you interact with some amateurs, some Tout's. Yes. And our nicknames that we introduced the show our stack in the money green Ryan real money, Kramer that basically the show started move back the curtain shop because most of our audience thinks it's real the show started. The idea was hey, we're gonna make fun of tap. Because there's so many guys out there selling their pick this hyping themselves up. Why not why not just do a podcast where we give out the picks for free. If we win awesome. We love winning money if we lose. All right. We'll make fun of ourselves and be pissed off on the air. And that's kind of the Genesis the podcast guys. Don't charge four hundred ninety nine dollars per download of this podcast. No. We don't what's great to is being in this world for so long as Sean as we recently reminded are. Audience picking every NFL game since two thousand eleven we're familiar with a lot of the characters in the space. Right. Yeah. And kudos to you guys. Picking the alternate. Tout of all Tout's. She had to. So the first thing I wanted to ask how how did you guys? Like, I'm sure there was a filtering process to get down to to Vegas day. It was like the alternate shall not be named. Yeah. How did that process? Go because I maybe you were involvement. But man that would be that's gotta be fun. Yeah. So essentially, what happened was the director and myself, Luke when the show was green lit by Showtime, kind of the general pitch was we wanted to do with three hundred sixty degree view of this ecosystem because it's fascinating you've got all different types. Good in bat. Right. And on our list of characters we had we wanted to professional better. We wanted to professional handicapper we wanted to do we wanted to find an illegal bookie we wanted to find a quote, unquote, degenerate and wanted to find tout and we wanna find like a high roll there. We wanted to find a now, you know, all these different things and. So when the show was green lit they originally said so Greenland in late August, maybe two months after the supreme court three months after this prem- court reverse the decision. And so the green light it in August. And they said, okay, you guys have like ten months and wanted to be centered around the NFL season we wanted we wanted to put on the air in June and keep in mind, we're not in June right now. Right. So essentially what they came back and realized was that if you're making a show about sports and your following a specific season they've done this research. They said that you can't essentially the longer you wait till that football season is over with the less interested, the viewers going to be which makes sense. Yeah. Instead of ten months, they said, you have six months, and we just the last documentary film. We had done was eighty five minutes long. And it took us for years. What what was that documentary? It was a documentary about the world's greatest card magician, and he happens to also be blind. Oh, man. So very fast. Thing subject about one guy, and it took us three and a half years for years. And now now they say six months, and you have to s before hours long, and so our brains exploded because we didn't have any of these characters iron out the only character that we knew we have to get is Kelly Stewart because she's the only woman in this. Yeah. Very Neak landscape that she takes up. Yeah. And so like when we were researching Tout's. The which is super fun. If you ever want to go down and all the like the bureau or the clips that you guys played of the town's going off. So it was it was just awesome, right? Brandon. Lang was in there. He made an appearance. Yeah. It was a great montage. I saw Vegas day video on YouTube where he talks about spending six hundred thousand dollars or something on a Mike trout rookie card and how he was just so could fit. This is the best decision. I've ever made in my life. And I was like I emailed Luke, the directors like have you heard of days, and he's like, yeah. I heard of him would he's definitely on our list, and then we had create. We just emailed them. And we had Korean barbecue with him and nice. I mean, he is who he is. But he's turned up a little bit. Obviously. He's a put a seems the amp up a little bit for the air. Yeah. For the cameras, but when we talked to him on the phone just kind of like a scouting just like who are you? This is who we are. He's like, yeah. I live with my parents. And we were like well an interesting part of the documentary as our eyes grew to the size of sand. And what else we were just like? Well, if we're if you're going to be in this we have to fill me with your parents. Okay. No problem down. And so when he said that whereas like, there's no way we're going to find a better know, a guy stay at home tout. But I mean, like the thing is we didn't think we went into hanging out with Vegas. Dave, not I didn't think the money was real. I thought all the pictures on Instagram because I I stopped him a little bit. And I was like, well, the, you know, the house the Kabo house the boats the cars, they're all leases or they're all just a front. But no the money is real. Did. We did some. We did our homework. Well, that's a that's another question. I have because you have guys like Vegas. Dave a bunch of other people making claims talking about their pigs, and whatever how in depth. Did you go with the with the research of these claims? Well, okay. So I I think if anybody says that they win over seventy five percent of the time just know, they're lying. Yeah. It's not. I mean, sure if you pick one game a week, and you pick money line for an obvious favorite shirt. Maybe you can win seventy five, but he's pick. He sending out plays every day and not just like one football place, sending out hockey plays and baseball players and basketball players in college basketball place. So it's not it's not possible. He's not. And then we even subscribe to is we got his Email picks. And one of our story consultants based on his money management system. And based on the like a select I don't know how many games it's probably fifty over several weeks. You would have lost money. Yeah. A decent amount of money. This is money management system. Doesn't even sense earlier in my career when I had a lot more free time. I I went down this rabbit hole. A couple times going after the phone. Over pre-game. And yeah, if you include the fees of paying for the picks, and you build a model around that and then just plug in their results, it it's very clear like any potential return. You would get from you know, clock being right twice a day. You're you're paying back to this person. Which makes it the most beautiful know scheme of all and at the end of the day like, and I don't wanna do any. I'm not going to give any spoilers away. Because I mean, I guess well, okay. So we film him sweating onto three four games. And in those four games. He has I think five specific bets, and he only wins one. Yeah. No, again, we're you know, that's only five and we were filming him. But I mean, you heard the expression in basketball or in sports ball don't lie. We like to say cameras where we come from. But to his credit as well, the Kansas City Royals future that he that? He put the the Denver Br. Macos future that he put that's all real that that that seem completely legit. And you know, by I think he there rumors that he put down picks on a bunch of other games too. Well, yeah. That's how gimmick right? You still have your clients one side of a game half the other Ryan, you're left with half of your clients being happy. Right, right. I mean, it's the same thing when I talked to lay down, you know, one hundred grand on thirty two teams. It's the same thing to do story. Right. Exactly. When my wife asked me how did how did gambling go? If I win I go. Oh my God. I hit my lock. I hit my dog. I went four. And if I lost is just like it was fun hanging with Ryan, listen to this show have no idea what what you're talking about. Right. Shortsightedness around. Your picks is amazing. So you guys have never bought a Vegas. Dave whale play. No, okay. Never never bought bought a Vegas. Dave whale play and pulling the curtain back one hundred percent just from hosting this podcast. Cast many pick selling companies have contacted us and been like, hey, you guys have platform you can sell picks. And then I explained like no that's kind of the opposite of what we're doing. We wanna we wanna have an entertaining transparent discussion. And they're like can I advertise on your site? I'm like, I don't think he can because we really make fun of who sell picks. And they're like, okay. This guy was like sell it. He he I go. We don't really want any part of this business. He goes, you don't want a part of business where you can make eight grand a month selling your picks. And not dude, it's it's not our business model, and then he just followed up with multiple spreadsheets of like the sales from his pick selling. Yeah. Great. You know, perhaps it's an ethical decision. I don't perhaps it never really isn't ethical decision. I when I was a kid. I didn't want want to be a snake oil salesman. When I grow, right. And also to me part of the fun of sports gambling is. Deciding what you're gonna actually bit like people listen to us. They go. Oh, maybe maybe I'll go with Ryan's pick. Maybe I'll Shawn's pick. Oh, actually, these guys are both ice cold. I'm gonna fade them to me part of the fun is deciding on your own what you're going to bet on. Yeah. Absolutely. So to just completely eliminate that. And just, you know, pay Vegas day five hundred dollars for his giant whale play seems a bit short site. Yeah. Well, that's the that's the psychological part of it. Like, why why why do it if you're not even your brain is not even participating in the activity, and it's also, you know, we have a sports gambling psychiatrists on the show. Yeah. That was very interesting. He was great. And he he actually really likes to gamble. But and his whole thing is not like gambling, bad gambling bad. It's gambling can be really fun. It can really improve your life. He we don't use it in the show. But he gives a really thoughtful explanation of how fantasy football has brought he and his wife closer together because his wife to started. Two years ago. And he makes these she's terrible at it. But like we we have such fun conversations that we didn't use to have now, and it brings us closer together. And yeah, she maybe she lost twenty bucks. But it's really fun. Yeah. I mean gambling supposed to be speaking for sand fantasy football brought me and my wife together. Really again, I've told this story although story please do. All right. Four bradley. I will I will tell the story agree. Our this not this past NFL season. But the season before week one NFL we always go out week one to Vegas make a whole weekend of it. Which book do you go to we like to go to we go to the the west gate where they have the that movie theater room? All the screens up a love that room. Jay, Carnegie, great guy. Greg is hooks us up four. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm looking forward to. But so we do the whole thing. And we do a DFS podcast where we give out a traffickings lineup. Right. The millionaire maker. We pick our thing debate the picks the whole thing. Now, we throw you know, I always play whatever I give out on the podcast week one. And last season. I come in second place in the millionaire maker and win two hundred thousand dollars h-, you know, huge. I was I was sitting on the million dollars for solid three and a half hours until Scott tolls in through his second pick six which knocked me out of first down to second. And this is one of those millionaire makers where there's also a Sunday night game. So I had a sweat the entire Sunday night game. Because I all the guys I played were in the ten AM games. So what I was sitting in first place. I'm like, all right. No way I'm going to be able to hang onto this entire day. And then I just expected to get knocked off but second place two hundred grand amazing. It was it was. Yeah. It was money changing changing gotta gotta car with the two working windows and air. Conditioning gotten engagement ring and at at the at the wedding. I do a little speech and I give a shout out to draft kings lineup Tariq co and higher. Arson wines. The eagles defense Tonio Brown the whole night. So it was it came full circle. That's great. And you you have a great quote from one of the degenerates you're interviewing, and it's it's totally true. It's a it's a great norm. Donald gym where he says gambling is the only addiction that might work out for. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it couldn't be more. True. Like, yeah. They I've heard a lot of professional gamblers or or other guys in the fields say similar things. Hey, you could go out and spend two hundred dollars on dinner. You know, what you're going to get? You're gonna get the dinner. You're gonna go home satisfied or you could put two hundred bucks on a game. And you get what three three and a half hours of entertainment, and you might get that two hundred back. Plus or you might go home with nothing. It's just kind of how you wanna spend your time and your money. Yeah. Absolutely. There's another great Norfolk. Donald quote that. I went down nor a huge Donald fan dirty work on. Oh, big masterpiece in my mind, but he has a quote he was on Larry Larry King and he's talking about his gambling addiction. Yeah. And he said he's like, I have a friend. Who has a great quote? He said I've been very lucky in my life gambling of never one. And when he says, oh, my gosh, there's very profound because a lot of these people that we talked to maybe they're already who may have a problem a lot of their, quote, unquote, origin stories are they won big early on something. And then they're always there chasing that feeling same thing with drugs, or whatever that I that I hair when Schatz always the best, Sean, my my ex girlfriend had an ankle that literally one a half million dollars moved Vegas and was broken three years. So firsthand innocent. If it starts off with a win. It's you know. Yeah. Yeah. Management system. Yeah. Well, and and yeah, that's I mean first off you you guys do a great job of the reaction shots of guys in the sports book. And I swear I sorta like there's two or three people where I was like, I definitely recognize that person. And we started seeing same faces over and over again. Yeah, we always used to go to the Venetians or book. And there was there was this was before they totally redid it was a little more old school. And I mean, we're definitely get off our long when it comes to this this new age sportsbook sports club. That's part of the reason we like the west gate, even though they renovated the kept it old rule. Yeah. The spaceship at the Venetian it used to just be chairs and TV's and this old black couple lady would just scream chiefs fans. Get mama the ball every year, we go. Drill tip. It was back in the day to where there was a there was a definitely when we first started going out. There was a golden age a house EON halcyon era of you, just go up, you place, a forty dollar bet and you go can I get some drink tickets? And they give you like fifteen tickets now, they're super tight. It's a you get one per hundred dollars, you bet and they've really clamped down. Have you all been to the south point? Oh, yeah. Yeah. For me for a couple years. And I, and I was I not knowing anything about before I dove in I figured the south point would be in it because they've been very open to expose your whether it be amazing. Yeah. You know, a lot of, you know, Brent Musburger is it's awesome. That he left like mainstream went to the gambling thing. But the south point used to go that was the Super Bowl destination for a couple years when I was going out, and it was like, it's this. It's this beautiful mix of like an old school feel definitely old school Vegas. So you're not going there to check out women at all like just stop. That's not where you there. Twenties look into get laid their go to the south point, you're there because they they're one of the last places that still make their own lines. It's a real sports book. And it just kind of like I feel like every time. I'm out there. There's some rodeo or something going on where people are parking their horses. There's that whole country feel mixed with like you can actually have a conversation about a buying like back in the day when buying points wasn't a thing. Like, you could just walk up and be like, I wanna buy a point. It wasn't like a big approval anyway, not to get caught in the big fan of the south point. And that's where we met in. My, you know, one of my favorite characters in the whole show is is are amateur better. Todd. Who who who plays a bigger role in every single episode because like we kind of knew going into the show like it'd be nice to have a, you know, enough Todd if you're listening, I'm gonna say the word degenerate doing air quotes, he he he calls himself the generate in the very the very first time we were talked to him. But like, but we just didn't know like how do you find one? And like some of the people that we knew that we're way more sports gambling. We were like you'll find one don't work, they're everywhere. And a lot of them wanna talk was was Todd the guy, and maybe I'm getting characters mixed up was Todd the guy who his friend asked him. Would you rather have sex here? Yeah. So Murli games in league. Would you rather have sex with the beautiful woman or bed on Sunday games? He goes early games kids. And it was just such a great, and you guys just do such an awesome job of capturing his head as it's going from TV to DVD and. The back of my brain, my degenerate, brain the synapses firing because I'm just thinking that experience of having multiple bets going on multiple games per glad that you guys went with the approach of just shooting the people's face, like don't worry about what they're watching just purely watched their like micro expressions, and yet whether it be joy or tells the story. Yeah. In every episode other than three are title sequence is a new set of reaction. So the for the first episode, it's the title sequence of or the names of the credits of all the people. My name's down there. Brad. The jets. But you see these like it's like this old time evaders style song playing over people's just either in complete ecstasy or an abject horror and the peop- in like the biggest reactions are usually over just like twenty five dollars. It's yeah. Yeah. Because it's just the the investment the and the psychologist kind of gets into it. Yeah. The idea of wanting to feel like a winner or wanting to kind of punish yourself as a loser. Or just the putting yourself out there risking it having action that that's really what drives a lot of people. Yeah. Sean knows. I mean, I I'm a fairly reserved guy when it comes to life, very introverted. I live in the mountains like stay away from people, and I'm definitely pretty even keel when it comes to my bets, like, I'm not the guy was gonna lose my mind. But I am one hundred percent doing it for that sweat. Yeah. I get a look on my face. Like like that. That like, oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll never. Yeah. I'll never forget. It was maybe like five or six years ago. We were out there. March madness we usually do like two trips like I first weekend in benefit and then the first two days of March madness. And we're out there hanging out with friends doing going crazy and Ryan place like the biggest bet I think of his life at that time, huge bet on Cornell. I forget what the actual money line was like, plus one eighty against Wisconsin. Yeah. I literally cashed in all my best from the day before and the women's like do you wanna make any bets? Yeah. Yeah. What do you want to do? Put all of it on Cornell money line now first-half totally excited and Cornell just dominating and then as the second half going he just looks around and Cornell, just dominates and wins. And Ryan goes kinda disappointed sweat it. You could legitimately, but like rocking chair bet. I had. I it was it was the most money I've ever cash from sports. But it was the first time I think they ever had a call for a provable. And I was like, yes, that's also. But at the same time, I just I didn't get it. What at all? Because you didn't have a good story. I had no no critical high five. Yeah. Nobody oh. Like, grabbing someone's collar, and pointing at the TV you don't want to like, call your friend and be like the craziest story I put in a huge bet. And it was effortless. And I won. And at no point was the bet ever in doubt. No, it takes the fun out. Yeah. Yeah. Todd or I've heard it's a it's a common for there's the ball sweaters. And then there's a rocking chair bets cause them. Yeah. Rocking chair bet. So it's a great term. I'm gonna have to start using that title give shout at. Just taking a quick break. From our discussion with Bradley Jackson talking about action sweet sports gambling documentary. I don't know about you. But just listen to all these gambling stories scout me itching. If you're. Get in the action. You gotta go to my bookie dot h g the official online sports look of the sports pack cast. He's a promo code S. She p fifty four fifty percent deposit bolles. Rules and restrictions do apply to that deposit bonus. You got the masters, you gotta you gotta check out the massive preview podcast talking NBA. Stanley Cup playoffs. Not going to be talking about on the podcast, but you can get. Picks over at sports gaming dot com. Mybookie dot AG. Has it all any sort of action? You want to get involved in? They got it. All you gotta do is go to my book dot AG, promo code S. Cheapie fifty play win and get paid over a by dot AG. Now back to the action the proudly checks how much did you know about sports gambling coming into it? What kind of what was your history? Yeah. I I I'm a big sports fan. My first movie that ever made was a an emerald flag football comedy, starring Kate McKinnon and a mutual friend of ours. Beck Bennett, Nick, Nick, grow the furred. Guess very funny guys. So I love sports, I love sports movies. And and so, but honestly never placed sports wager. Mine tire really never I knew some of the terms. But like when we were researching, I didn't know what Vig -ment, I didn't know what Jews men, I didn't know what money linemen. I knew it over and with the spread. I knew what parlays man, I knew all that stuff. But like those terms are used kind of everyday nomenclature and other avenues, but I've just always been myself in the director Luc I've always been fascinated with like weird characters and ecosystems and our ours its own little world. Yeah. And our last documentary that he and I made together sit in the world of magic and. And I was never in the magic. But like everybody like good magic trick who doesn't like to have their minds blown my magic and whimsey. And so when when kind of this idea presented itself, we're like we could this this is a world. And this is you know, when you make a documentary, especially for network like Showtime. They're gonna ask you two things. Why you and why now why us because our last documented was about this like fascinating little microcosm. Yeah. And we made it we made it interesting. We made it relatable. And then why now obviously was when the supreme court overturned Pasa. Yeah. And we're like this thing is the amount of money. When I heard that stat the opening stat of the very first scene of the episode episode one where it says, you know, over every year around five to six billion dollars bet wagers on the Super Bowl so largest single wagering day in America up until last year ninety. Seven percent of the action was wagered illegally. Yeah. When I heard that stat I was like. Zinger? Yeah. And it just it blew my mind. So I was like this is only going to get bigger. There's only going to get more money. And with money comes unique characters comes controversy comes a little bit of shadiness. Oh, yeah. And just like the fun ethics and morality that. I think we get to kinda toy around within the show. So I was I was all in. Well, I mean any Grammy. And I'm a big fan of documentaries in general in the best documentaries are generally not really about the topic at all in about the people. Yes. And I think when you find these like just raw characters I would imagine a lot of this kind of like there was a lot of this where it unfolded as perfectly as you could have imagined. Because like like like the sports better set, you'll find dinner, and they'll be perfect, and and usually the symptoms of them being degenerate make them perfect. Yeah. Well, and again Todd if you're listening Todd, you're like, you're like my favorite character on the show. And he knows that I. Actually text with them earlier today because he went on visa in this morning and crushed it because he's always. But Luke, the director was shooting some stuff, and he was just dude I need you to like do a character circle. Which is like walk around the south point. And just find interesting people to like either film or a quick interview with and I see this guy Todd. He's big loud. Funny guy. He's yelling and in his chair. All the chairs are lined up perfectly except his chairs jutted out to the right. And he has one of those little speaker boxes that like can like give you the audio signal from whatever game you want to be on. And so I was like okay that there's really interesting. Let's go talk to him and within like three minutes. He did this thing that made us laugh so hard where he was just talking to us who's giving us a really interesting answer. And then he just looks up and goes off fucking jet. That was that was so awesome. And then so we talked to them for like ten fifteen minutes and Luke director comes back to me. And I literally. Because I've been listening in on my headphones whole time watch on a little monitor and looks like amazing, and I go. Yeah. He's a character. Now and looks like I was thinking the same thing. And I was like you need to go to right now and go can we interview 'cause we want to put you in the show? Can we do a real proper sit down with you? So goes over there he asked. Hey, man, Kuwait. We really like what you're having to say, you're really funny. We think about being on the show we like come to your house or wherever you live and do an interview. And he goes, I don't know I live like a terrorist. And we're like what does that mean? Like, you have an even cave what? And he goes. No, I I don't have any furniture. I haven't unpacked my I've been living here for eighteen months. And I still have an unpack my bags. All I have is a mattress on the floor in a table. And I work for a worker moten at work from home. Then all I do is I work from east coast hours. I work from six to three. And then I go to the sports book every you're perfect. You're hired credit to him like he gave us a incredibly raw unfiltered interview where he talked about the darkness and how he'd gained and lost one hundred fifty pounds three times. And how he's lost thousands and thousands of thousands of dollars gambling. And he's in some cases, gambling's almost ruined his life. But then he had a great, you know, intellectual mindset about it that I thought was really refreshing. Yeah. No, he's I it it kind of reminded me in the same way. You're talking about like finding this little world. See similar thing of. King of Kong, which was a my favorite documentary of which is a great documentary. But. Technically, the documentaries about guy playing dong-ki Kong. But really, it's a guy chasing something. Right. And and the cool thing about Donkey Kong and sports gambling. Like, you mentioned earlier is there's a scoreboard, right? So there is a definitive winner loss. And when you're telling the story it really helps to have that. Because you you have you have like a beginning. Then you have like this happens and that happened like it creates a structure, that's really interesting and Billy Mitchell. I thought Billy Mitchell was the most absurd is the ultimate tout documentary villain that with that. And then when we met Vegas, Dave. I was like I feel like Vegas and Billy Mitchell. If you put the two in a room together. Oh my gosh. The world might implode. Yeah. You said you really like Todd. Did you find yourself at all kind of getting sucked in rooting for? Maybe some of the characters or even. Yes. Okay. So who did you find yourself rooting for like becoming a fan of? I mean, I I love all our characters in different ways. But you know, I really liked a really enjoyed spending time with Bill crack and burger he was I mean just from that. I. Sewed that guy was real to me and like real in a relatable ways, especially guy coming from these coasts. He's very east coast. I'm from jersey. Yeah. He's a dude. From like, he jersey jersey from I'm from a small town called fan would. Okay. Gotcha. He's super logical super pragmatic yet seems like a family guy just clocks in clocks out. Yeah. No motion. No, nothing. And he there's an episode. There's a scene in episode three where it's more or less. We knew going into it. Because we knew what crack bet and we knew it Vegas. Dave was going to tout that they were going to be on opposite sides. Oh and two I won't spoil. Because if I if y'all got y'all got upset three now, I just got the first to know, it it to me is like our fate my favorite a twenty minute sequence. Because it's like crack making the bed and then Vegas Dave touting the game. And then starting to. Watch the game. And then crack doesn't watch the game. So what are you doing? We cut to him doing something really weird interesting anyways. It's just one of those like. I never think that that would be that entertaining. But when we finally cut it all together, I was like I'm kinda sweating this even though I even though you know, the outcome. I know what happened it's odd. Because this isn't a space has been explored very much whether it be in fictional or non fictional. You saw it with the HBO show from a couple years back not to plug the the rival network there. But curious what the one that got shut down because some horses died look. Oh, yeah. It was the show about like the day Milcho. Yeah. Essentially, you had degenerates and the underworld, and you had this like you got to live some of that rush like you're talking about. And I think that's there's not a lot of that. There's not a lot and the one a lot of the gambling movies that have come out or just complete garbage. And it's like that's not how it goes. Yeah. What it's like the slow motion reaction scenes are almost more effective than some like big like more, Mark Wahlberg? Like, I what was the name of the movie he was in recently. The gambler gambler. Thank you don't have to spend a lot of time in sportsbook to realize like how to portray that the right way. Yeah. And I think it's even more like in the in the final episode. It's it's it's great because everyone's finally it's all about the Super Bowl. And as we all know that super was kinda boring. Right. Yeah. But seen through the eyes of five different sports books. It's a little more interesting. And especially we go we, you know, we're popping from the game was boring a little bit. But we're pop in from the south point to the west gate to Vegas Dave's parents house to draft kings in New Jersey, and then you know, to the game, and then, blah, blah. It's like it gets really interesting. It gets like you. And then you find little subplots we were filming at west gate for the Super Bowl, and we're just filming some betters. Placing best just trying to get some bureau of some good stuff and all the sudden out of nowhere. These two guys drop forty five thousand dollars damn table on the table. And we were just like well. That's a little subplot in this episode. We got a fall those guys talk to them. Did you get do? You get any pushback from people like, hey, get out of my face, and I don't wanna part of this documentary. Absolutely. Well, we what was great are cinematographers guy named Gabriel Taye, and he shot last chance you which great. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Great shot the first two seasons. And what's fascinating about him. He's great DP great guy. But he is not a sports fan at all. He could not give two shits about sports. Honestly. And but I think that's what makes him, and he doesn't he did not know anything about sports gambling. And he he kind of refused not refuse to learn. But like, I would always tease them like you're pretending like, you're picking some of this stuff up. But he was like, I don't know what a parlay is. And I'd be like filmed the Browns games like which one of the Browns. But. But he just had a fewest snus dislike he just didn't care. So he would just like anybody even if somebody was just like hands of their head like they just lost thousand dollars. He just take the cameras shove. It rent go right in their face and nine times out of ten people are just like whatever every now. And then we would get people being like, hey, could you not do that for the most part people were cooled logistically just because personally curious how did how did it work filming at these casinos? Did you have to talk to them ahead of time? And be like, hey, bring cameras in there. Not a big fan of cameras. It's funny because every single casino turned us down, but south point and west gate, and I you know, we've had great exposure to. I mean in Santa Meraj a little bit mergers lettuce film for like half a day one time. I mean, the south point in the west gate or the two kind of more old school sports teams. Yeah. They understand. And end south point. I mean, it was cool because like south point was just like you can do it for free. We'll help you as long as you like just don't despair jus- like come on and do whatever you want. They helped us in every way, shape or form. They list come into feast, and they gave helps get Musburger. It was great west gate was a little more complicated. Because it's you'll find in Vegas every casinos owned by corporation. That's owned by a corporation. That's owned by a parent company that's owned by another coordination. And so, you know, just to like get a sign off on some of these places was going to take, you know, eight lawyers and three weeks. And so we're just like again, we had six months. Yeah. That's a crazy clock. Yeah. And so well gate west gate was a little more difficult. But they're they're actually really great and a little very comedy. We had to go through the union stuff, which is fine. But like J corner gay and John Murray, the two people who run that book are really great and like really helped us out a lot. So and I think both of those sports book that they're both very like west gates, very retro. West good future. It's like high ceilings everything's black. Yeah. You can't smoke in the actual book south point is like super old oak. Everyone's smoking. It's just like, yeah. You're seeing the colonoscopy bags strewn about the again, you're not going for the view. No. Was there was there? One thing either something that made it into the documentary or something that was kind of on the cutting room floor, for whatever reason was was there one particular thing that jumped out as as something that you didn't see coming at all that was kind of the most surprising. Yeah. And maybe this is my naievety. But we thought, you know, one of our characters we really wanted to find was in a legal bookie. Yeah. And so if you if you watch episode one, we do introduce you to one, and we thought naively going into this like, oh, the repeal of pass by the overturning of the law is going to like kill books. They're done like bookies and a couple of years or done. And then we met this bookie through a few connections. And we're like, right. You're must be sweating. Right. And he goes, not not even close. He's like my business better than it's ever been. I'm not worried and he explained it to why like convenience and credit. And so when he told us that was. That's so much more interesting than what we were thinking, which is like we're gonna find a bookie who's on hard times. And he's ready to retire. Take his Bendel and stick railroad. Exactly. But no end this guy was so sophisticated like he ran like it was like, you know, he had down to a science. They had you know, this this book did does forty million dollars a month. This illegal book does forty million. And it's based on New Jersey does the Tri state area. And like and like he he also is just like, yeah, we don't use violence anymore. Like, we haven't. Nobody is violence the eighties. Just because there's cameras everywhere. And it's like. Yeah. Explain it to very logically. Like like, we do forty million a month in handle, maybe not profit. But in handle, and like say, somebody stiffs you had a two hundred grand that sucks, but you're gonna go like put that guy in the hospital and then. Jail. It's bad for business. Exactly. So that really surprised me and good way. And and you you you hit on it in the documentary when you're talking to the legal guy, and he said east coasters are always going to be gamblers. They have it in their blood. It seemed like you did a ton of stuff focusing on Atlantic City as well. What do you think the east coast angle is it's like the appeal or what draws east coasters to sports gambling? Visit just the lifestyle is that that they're just more passionate sports fans probably history. I mean, those teams have been around longer there's a richer history. I'm not from these from Houston, Texas, when we ask you this. When did you like when did you did you friends in high school bookies? There was a guy in high school that took bets from people, but it was just such small ball five bucks here. So yeah, I mean, I don't really remember a time. I'm where I did it in the know someone who knew how to get down. And it was like we'd pull our money. So we could get down on thirty dollar. It was a twenty five dollar back. But if we lost we got we had to pay thirty win twenty five. Yeah. It's all the stories. You've heard like you meet the guy on route twenty two in a McDonald's like, and that's what's interesting about that. It's funny complete unrelated story, I just met a guy through through my other career, and he's a nice gentleman from Rhode Island a medium like, oh, so you're into sports gambling. And he's like, yeah. Of course, Rhode Island. So it's very much this like it like culturally, and that's one of the things you guys touch on this. I don't know how much bagasse sees it coming, but people are not gonna get on a plane to go to Vegas now. The thing AC that's a real. That's a great point in the same way that you're saying maybe thought the the local bookie could be put out of business. Do you see Vegas being in trouble? Not not for a long time. Now, I think what could really hurt Vegas is if ever if California ever tips. That'll to legal legalization. That's that's going to be rough news. But here's the thing Vegas has of fifty year. Head start on everybody. Yeah. And there and also they just the concept of egg ass- the sin city atmosphere. The idea that you can go to this other city, and do whatever the fuck you want, and it really adds fuel to the fire, and it's like a safe space where I was like, oh, I lost all my money. I was in Vegas. That's what she do. Whereas if I walked down to seven eleven and loss eighteen hundred dollars and then just walked back. It would it would feel weirder. Right. Depressing. But I mean, we we are in the demographic where you know, not to be confirmed or denied, but we have ability to bet on credit. Enter we go to Vegas. We go to Vegas the experience. It's a social experience. It's a it's a business experience. But it's we still like there's there's trips. I don't make a single bet in Vegas, right? Why am I in Vegas again? It's selena. I I can't house and people in my garage to all have the out of my experience of like there is nothing like March madness where there's like a couple of games coming to a decision, and you're in a room with a couple of thousand people in everyone is on one side of that decision or not, and it just you can feel it. It's like being in a bigger Rina. It's cool. They don't see him. There's a moment and episode for where we we cut in between the south point and west gate during the coin toss as it's a big bet on the coin toss and just here. I was not expect I was at the south point filming and our other crews at west gate, and I was like we were like, yeah. Let's let's make sure we get a nice shot for the coin toss because we know that that's a that's a bad. I was not expecting the absolute roar of the crowd after the coin toss nuts. Well. With the national. I was gonna say I you can't bet that Ben. Yeah. You can't do that. Because that's an entertainment proud. Yeah. So and that's where new Jordan New Jersey's also pushing the envelope there saying, we'll take those bets. But the first time I was in Vegas. I think the biggest thing that that opened. My eyes was being in. We were in the south points kind of like little comedy club across from where the sportsbook other. Yeah. And every like, it's a dark space. The game is jacked up everyone. How you could see the this is probably two thousand it was two thousand ten when the giants won. I believe to love everyone had a cell phone and everyone's timing the national anthem. Yeah. And it was it was one of those experience experiences were were I was like man, I'm with I'm with friends here. Everyone like signed it into. On the same page. But yeah. Coming back to what we were talking. Like, that's the I think Vegas Vegas will not be in trouble from perspec-. People would go to bed. I do think that this bullshit about like. Yeah. If you make a five hundred dollar bet, I'll give you a drink ticket for well, drink, maybe that's the area where we start to see a little bit better customer customer service. And I'm already seeing Sean someone who's been to the west gate before they're slamming with me, slamming me, and they're really focused on these sports vacation packages. Now, interstate finally have kind of turned the corner on like, let's just get people out there. We know they're going to sit in a room. It's bet sports. We're not gonna worry about the other stuff. The share to the shirt gambling experience in particular is something that's truly unique. And you don't understand until you go to Las Vegas, and you see the sportsbook erupt when a total is hit. It's completely meaningless for the actual game. But what it, hey, it's just the crowd goes crazy. And to be on the same side with the majority of the of the rest of the group because you figure out early whether you guys are on the same side, whether it's makes friends quickly. Yeah. But it's usually pretty I actually one of my favorite things to do is to watch the playful banter between people on different sides like it's usually pretty good natured for the most part for the most part. You gotta cut. Yeah. You get a couple dish. Like, I lost twenty eight dollars. Well, that's a we actually last anecdote because I know we're not going to be your forever. But I did we in Sean were out there one time. And we watched the guy Lou he bet like a ten thousand dollar money back to win thousand saints money line. And the Rams upset them week one couple years back. And I think there was I forget the exact story. But someone nearby was on the other side on the other money line, but had like a twenty dollar bet versus guys ten thousand dollar bet. And you had one of those awkward situations. Like, this is probably going to be a fight. And I'm not gonna be mad at the dude who just lost thousand dollars for. But it's it we're going to back away from the situation. Yeah. We were hoping we would catch a fight on camera. One time we never know. No fights. No, no fights, no, active violence. No, no crazy flipping the chairs. I did like the I really enjoyed the one guy who destroyed the Cup but break this fucking cop. Yeah. It was such a great line. And it really captures the just kind of crazy rage that may just your brain getting overwhelmed, and you want to destroy something. And you you can't really process it. So just the fact of you destroying with your hands a plastic somehow gets you the power back. Yeah. We did. It was it was the one thing that we had to cut. But it was it was a really fun little segment we did about bad beats and Brent Musburger had this great great soundbite that he said in his interview, which was he's like try to do my best Musburger impressions, look, I'm out -solutely convinced that people like talking about the losses more than they like. Talking about their wins. Because they tell the stories about the bad beats and they got into this. Great like section of all of our people talking about their worst beats like cousin Sal has a great story about how he was on. He was on a Golden State. So he was on Golden State when they were playing the cast. He was on Clinton. He was on. Oh, yeah. He was on Hillary. And then he was also on lowland when they got the envelope. Yeah. And he just like which we're gonna find his spot for that section. It was real maybe we'll put online sometime, but it was really fun. Yeah. That that's true. I mean, that's in the in the movie, the great gambling movie to for the money out Pacino's character goes the Gamblers Anonymous, and he's essentially like when you're when you're looking for that feeling again and that feeling his loss, right? Like everyone's chasing that rock bottom. Come talk to me. So so now, Bradley you went you Dovan, you did this knocked it out of the park of the four hour documentary available on Showtime on demand finale Sunday eight east is the finale shit row quick show. And you can also check that on Hulu. Oh, really somebody man. Oh nice. Oh, yeah. Because you can do this Showtime. Very cool. Yeah. What what kind of is? Your is your big takeaway. But more importantly, where do you see things going in the future because we have this legalisation? We have kind of the old school bookies still kind of floating around. There's plenty of online. Options as well. What do you see as a future moving forward? Great great question. I think you know, within two to three years, you'll have twenty five states that are that are in on unlike money money, and I feel like I'm from Texas. I don't think Texas will like allow casinos. But I do think Texas will out mobile, you know, like eventually because Texas is so sports obsessed. And I mean, there's so many people that would would like to bet on the couch. You know, going to cowboy stadium there's a draft kings sweet, you know, n link with the prevalence of draftkings and fan duel. Which is one hundred percent gambling DFS one thousand percent gambling. Anybody tries to tell you is a game of skill. We actually loophole. That's so crazy that in Vegas. You can't play. And we talked about that in our third episode. We we actually we interview we do a big DFS segment where we talk about we interview in track the number three DFS player in the world. This twenty six year old kidney Martin Crowley who makes prior to million a year doing DFS. And. Yeah, I mean, we interview the president of draft kings and one of the big guys fan duel and just hearing them kind of lot, you know, ninja logic their way around the fact that it's not gambling is hilarious to me. Won't you see it's a collection of aggregated statistics on random event. It's not gambling and we use this. We use this. Great soundbite from Joe Nemeth in this MSNBC interview that we pull were Joe Nemeth goes do you have to pay to play? And someone goes, yes. And do you win money if you win? Yes. German goes it's gambling. I know that it's time so true old school. Joe name a love it. Well, Bradley appreciate you coming on to the podcast. I loved it makes you give them a follow on Twitter at Bradley Jackson and make sure you check out action the four-part sports documentary vailable on Showtime on demand, and like you said the finale to Sunday, eight o'clock east just before billions just before billions huge fan of that show four love it the game Linpack guess, I'm Sean stack in the money green. And he is Ryan cosign. You should go watch action, Kramer, let it.

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