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Steely Dan - "Two Against Nature" World Premiere Broadcast

The Nicole Sandler Show

1:17:00 hr | 1 year ago

Steely Dan - "Two Against Nature" World Premiere Broadcast

"Okay. So confused this you read number one. I read number two. I read number four. And what about minor circle I understand? Yeah. See, so should we start? Yeah, this is Donald Fagin, and this is Walter Becker of steely. Dan, welcome to the world. Premiere broadcast of two against nature on the SF ex rock radio. Well, unless, you know, we wanna pretty yeah, this is Donald Fagan, and this is Walter Becker of steely. Dan, welcome to the world. Premiere broadcast of two against nature on the SF X radio network. Known for their meticulous. Production cryptic. Lyrics laced with satire jazz influenced instrumentation reluctance to tour and a name lifted from dildo and William Burroughs naked lunch. Steely Dan has bridged a twenty year gap between records to bring us to against nature without skipping a beat. But then we expect nothing less from Donald Fagin and Walter Becker at the height of their popularity in the early seventies steely Dan stopped touring, and the band, which started out on the road became a studio project. They want against the formula and making their records using new techniques and expensive studio time and musicians to create their unique sound and the Rams continued selling in nineteen Ninety-three after almost twenty years since their last concert Becker and Fagin set out with an eleven piece version of steely, Dan and found that time had changed the face of touring. Steely Dan was back. The only thing missing was new music to play for two years. New album has been in the making and tonight where we're. For sound studios in New York. We're Donald Fagin and Walter Becker, and the musicians, they've assembled for this in coronation of steely Dan recorded two against nature. I'm Nicole Sandler thrilled to be able to spend the next ninety minutes with Walter Donald for the world. Premiere of two against nature coming right up on the F F X radio network. Are we ready? Are we rolling? All right. I'm Nicole Sandler. Welcome to the world. Premiere of steely Dan's two against nature where river sound studios in Manhattan, where much of the album was recorded and I'm thrilled to be sitting across from Donald Fagan and Walter Becker, thank you. Welcome to riverside, and the thrill is all hours. So is this home away from home right now? Does actually it's our actual home. This is home. Yeah. Guest about we live a few blocks away from here. Discount folds out. I see an big enough for both of you. Well, we take turns one is mixing, while the other ones slaves. Okay. I have an odd question to start out with but in looking at the time line of steely Dan, in the way you've done things over the years. I'm wondering if it's coincidence. Okay, it was about twenty years between tours like you stopped touring in seventy three and then toured again in ninety three and now it's about twenty years between albums. And if you take it a little further Walter your birthday it was just on February twentieth. I want to guess that you guys met around the age of twenty at Bard college. Is there something there were you born in Los Angeles? No. I was born in New York. Because I'm wondering, you know, usually, we don't get this kind of Nostra Dhamma lake symmetry questions. But you may you may have a point you know, because we don't know you know what happens on these other levels, you know, of, of interaction, you know, that's right. If you if you were fishing about for some sort of a cult explanation, we wouldn't have it, you know, maybe it's maybe we're just like, you know, baldness or something we like to skip a generation every once in a while why why new steely Dan record. Now. You know, you're right. In fact, we should just recall recall them immediately. Think of good rea-, really through the more. The more kinds of asked that question the less certain I am, and that there's any decent answer for it. But we were touring in the nineties, ninety three ninety four and ninety six and some other years, and we're getting a little tired of playing the, the old tunes, although they hadn't been played most of them in the seventies since we didn't tour for most of the seventies, we still felt we need some some new songs to kind of juice up the band, and, you know, make it more fun for us. And since we're going out this year this summer, we'll be playing we'll finally have some new songs to play. And in this way, hopefully, some people will will will be familiar with them as well. So they because you can't really do that much new material that you're springing on an audience with that them being familiar with with, you know, so we'll talk about the touring plans in a little while. So you started this process on this new album, a couple years ago. Did you know then that it would take two years to record on the one hand? We hadn't planned. That it would take that long on the other hand it had occurred to us that, you know, sometimes things take a little longer than you might hope. And so we weren't called that surprised when the timeframe, a stretched out there, actually, I think I've sort of figured out everything takes at least six times, longer than you think it's going to take you noticed that. Well, that's like the twenty year thing isn't it? It's like yeah. It's strange symmetry and some weird love nature. Who's fearful symmetry? That's right. We're here for the world premiere of two against nature, the first song that most of the people listening have heard is the first single called cousin DuPree. And when I first started I thought at least lyrically, this is quintessential steely, Dan. It's, it's kind of your basic incest, song, though, who came up with that concept or incest, is basic Sealion, but certainly defected to thirty song, right? I don't know that you've touched on incest before, but the. There worker, personally or work wise. I don't know about your personal. Here's what happened. We a few years ago, we were toying with the idea of doing for reasons to perverse describe now we were toying with the idea of doing an all country album, really. And which, you know, we may yet do and there would be incest, and, and we were sort of thinking of what you know, takeoffs on prototypical country song themes. You know, or are, you know, folklore that, that, you know of rural America, you know, taking the typical themes, and then maybe exaggerating. Former legends, you know, and we're one of the things we tried to do this. Come into. Yeah. Well, as you know, you know, this is sort of a running gag for the last hundred and fifty years or so in America. You know that certain small towns, everybody is related and so on. So that we were just sort of riffing on that. So you weren't basing this on any particular sleazeball in one of your families. Oh, okay. Well cousins certainly could have. Think hard enough. Yeah. There's a cousin Duprey enough. Sure. Ankle or you know, a great great aunt. Absolutely. From? A couple. How? Yeah. Three. Thin. Couch. So strange. Lim decided. Exactly. That's cousin depre- from steely Dan's new album, two against nature, which is in stores on Tuesday, February twenty-ninth now. That's leap day was born extraordinary hazard. Well, in case, you know, for some reason, the Lear is suspended this year or something like that. Now, did you when you knew that the timing was about, right? Did you decide? Hey leap day, let's put out our album somebody somebody at Warners to that. We believe in other cases of unexplained perversity. There you go. There's a lot of it happening. Well, speaking about perversity so far. The early reviews are very good. Critics are liking it. That's steely Dan is back the tide may turn. Of course. There's always a backlash. That's true. And it is still early. We tend to always do well with early adopters, and it's, you know, the more the sort of stick in the mud kind of guy, you know, that, that has trouble with, with our with what we're working on. Do you pay much attention to that? Do you care? No. Not too much. But we have a laugh about it or something, you know, 'cause the funny thing is usually people who really like it often like it for completely wrong reasons, anyway. So in other words, it's, it's, it's often you know, it's a sort of meaninglessness to, at all, you know, certain way, what would be the right reasons? I don't actually what the right reasons would be myself, nor would I if I knew I wouldn't be inclined to tell you actually, but. Luckily, I'm not a critic you know, get to play music. You know that's a good thing. We're very critical many, many things wrong took a lotta trash and private. But we just don't publish it, but actually you do. We'll get to that because we're going to talk about the weapons coming up like a potent threat. We are with Donald Fagan, and Walter Becker, steely, Dan, it's the world premiere of two against nature stick around. There's more music and we're conversation coming up on the SF X radio network. Saturday, thirteen hundred hours. Your army reserve unit has twenty minutes to evacuate a patient from field. Hospital easy, watch that I perform a team Haitian to secure. Four one skills. You learn from us on a weekend will come in handy back at work at your local hospital on Monday patient arrests. Have a pulse serve as little as one weekend a month two weeks a year. Visit the army reserve go army reserve dot com paid for by the US army reserve. Hey me, too. Well, I've actually got a rhythms DSL connection to the internet. 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Now, some of your songs are lyrically somewhat fairly straightforward, and others are more cryptic, I put this on the more cryptic category. 'cause I'm not sure what it's about. I think that's a fair enough category to put an. To me. It's not really that cryptic. But, but, you know, I'm often wrong about that less literal, perhaps, in this, you know, this sort of space about essentially allegorical kind of your mind. It was, it was a bad day, a guy who's in a lot of trouble. He's manic for what reasons manic that sort of, you know, up in the air, but he's definitely you know, he's DA's meddling in matters. You shouldn't be meddling in and it's basically a warning from a from a friend of the family, for, of course, this friend of the family may have ulterior motives, you know, I certainly hope so another say, what's the point? Ties. Check. Join. The kitchen. For. Don't stop. Jack of speed from steely Dan's two against nature, the world premiere broadcast and I must say Walter very nice thrower. Very much E play a lot more guitar on this album than on previous records, your more out front or you know, we got tired of the having all these, you know, you go on stage and you've got a here's the tune. You've gotta play this incredible. Guitar solo, you know, and nobody can play any of the guitar solos from our old record. So we figured if I did a mall, then we all, you know, we'd be able to handle them say you couldn't play the stuff that, that maybe skunked it or certainly not. That's why to Qatar players. We because we always our concept as you need to stone blues player, that would be me. It'd be Walter. And I need a guy with, like unbelievable chops to be able to negotiate some of the changes that we right into the tunes. Well, you're playing on this record is is great and it, it sticks out. And, you know, I mean it's got your sound. Yeah. That does does sound like me for better worse. You know, the Donald and I discussing the this record as we were making it, we sort of Reconceptualise, steely Dan is just a blues band sort of fancy blues band. And, and so, you know, once we decided that sort of gave me the inside line on the guitar. Let's move on, because I do want to ask you about this subject, and I'm just going to come out with it, and asked about the rock and Roll Hall of fame. There's been a lot written of lot by you guys. And you know let's see you wanna be in it. You don't want to be in it. It should be the two of you. It should be the whole. Steely Dan universe. Tell us where you stand today on the hall of fame. Well, you know, I mean, we as you correctly mentioned, we sort of been all over the lot over the last few years on this, and it's just a funny idea, you know, that they have a rock and Roll Hall of fame that it's in Cleveland, you know that some people are in and some people are out, you know, and they're inducted at this time or the other. And you know, the minute we heard about the thing we knew that this was going to be, you know, keep us in, in yuks for a while. So probably not finished yet. Yeah. You know, I think it's good that they have the I think they've done a lot of good as far as 'specially towards bringing some integrity, especially to some of the older rhythm, and blues people and all that. But there's also something very silly about it. You know. And especially since it's starting to be televised, if you years ago, I used to go to some of the ceremonies, and when they first started near a lot of fun. And because, you know, the people in, quote rock rock community, like are interesting people, and anything could happen there with a lot of strange stuff happened at these award nights as soon as they started videotaping them for, for TV. It just seemed to become just another one of these Grammy type cermonies or one of these television events. And a lot of fun went out of it. And I think a lot of the sort of motivation. I like having a little fun with the hall of fame is really in a way provoked by, by their sort of making it into something that it didn't start out to be really there. Enroll thing originally way, it started out as Donald, and I between the two of us, we have a whole bunch of these old digital tape recorders that we bought back in the eighties, that are, pretty are dinosaurs. Now, they're pretty useless in their cluttering up his studio here in New York and mine in Hawaii. In other words, it's a storage problem and we hit upon the idea of donating all these machines to the rock and Roll Hall of fame in exchange for, you know, whatever sort of consideration we could obtain and a nice tax write off. Yeah. And, and then at some point someone added the idea of well, let's throw in a case of Honey mustard. And it just went downhill from there. Really? So. And all this is is available on the website, which we'll talk about in a little while. But if the interesting, I think it's on the website is that at one point you know, my parents live in Cleveland and my niece, Emily practices piano, and Saint Pierre. No, I learned on very cheap. Equa sonic. Spin it and they were going to get a new piano. So they said, well, what he wants to do with your old, piano. And I said, well, I don't want to ship it back here, tell you, what, let me call the rock, and Roll Hall of fame ac-, if they want it, and they said they didn't have room for. So I had a ship it back to New York magin. See, we didn't put that on the on the on the website because we thought the outrage the sheer outrage with sort of didn't, you know, we didn't want to do that to the hall of fame, then one would think that if there is a rock and Roll Hall of fame, a piano, that Donald Fagin learned plants should be. You know, I'm it's very narcissistic of me and went one had to think that they'd want the panel. But on the other hand, it was really dragged for me and have to pay ship. Bashing. Yeah. I mean, if they forget about the what about the what about the three m digital machines, the Honey mustard. I know. I mean we've made all these offers. I mean we've we've really been the nice guys in this situation. And I think this goes back a long way, actually. And you know if if someone really wanted to beat the bushes, you'd find some, you know, things that way back. So it's, it's complex history between us and, and the hall of fame. Well, maybe someone in Cleveland listening, and they'll take notice. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of mixed feelings. We're Donald Fagin and Walter Becker, we're gonna listen to other song from the brand new album two against nature. This one's called janey runaway. I mentioned the Swedish ginger cookies, just realized the less that we're. We're. Those bad on that. Booed out the fines. Berth for. To look. Now y'all one way. I do. Up from. Doobie the showgirl not. Good. Interesting. After. Shot and. The. Is. Her. Possibly. Her. Possibly. Jay. Two against nature is the brand new album. We just heard on call janey runaway now. Is that social commentary on street kids or lecherous old men celebration of life? We don't social commentary. We have nothing to add to the, you know, any of that already, you know, we figure, we'll just, you know, do something else really more with Donald Fagin, Walter backer, coming up on the SF X radio network. Hi, this is Walter Becker, and Donald Fagin, you know, steely Dan. You're listening to the world. Premiere broadcast of two against nature. We're back. It's silly downs world. Premiere of two against nature out this, Tuesday, February twenty-ninth leap day. Now in addition to your new album. There's another steely Dan project in the work sort of. I'm not sure what your involvement with it is. It's the soundtrack to me, myself and Irene new Farrelly brothers foam. That would bands covering steely Dan songs. Yeah. The fairly brothers are apparently steely Dan fans from way back, and they called us up and wanted to know if we'd be willing to have a lot of a group of old songs covered by various bans to use as part of a soundtrack for this film, and yeah, it seemed like a an interesting idea. So we were interesting to see what they're going to do with it. Do you have any involvement in the bands or what songs they're going to do? No not. Really? They've sent us some fear. We offered to consult. Yeah, the so far we, you know we haven't really gotten any any. Phone calls about I think they ended up paying not to consult in the end. I think maybe there was something something to that. I think you're probably right. Realized, you know, they'd be better off without, you know, are just sort of our blessing, but not our actual help. I don't know why 'cause we let a really great ideas. You know. Like you know that's where the compensation comes in. You know, just like give out the idea. I understand in what would I have left in early? That's right. We'd be like what about our relationship with the fairly brothers? We violating. That's true. What is your relationship with them? Well, we've talked to them on a phone a few times, you know, you see something about Mary, we've seen I've seen part of it seen par certain parts of it. Do you get their sense of humor? 'cause I, I hear you guys can be kinda funny here. You got it. No. It's too that we. Yeah. We get it. Yes. This funny jokes funny jokes in their thing with the dog we all liked, right? Little derivative. But, you know, they're getting better. There's a song on the new album that, that reminds me of one of your older songs, my old school. And when I heard what a shame about me, I kind of thought that in some ways, that's the continuation or it's it's another way of looking back and reminiscent. Well, that's interesting. And, and, you know, the there's even a reference lyric reverence in there that sort of supports that idea. So we'd have to go along with that. All right. Yeah. We're sort of, you know, down by law with that. I guess we sort of put that in there. Yeah. Put that in there. All right. Why don't we listened to it? What a shame about me from the new steely Dan album two against nature. Okay. Did I mention the Swedish ginger cooking, by the way? Yeah. Back in. From? Are you? Back. Joe's cds. Good. Tell. The. What a shame. But I guess. Hey. Every. Close. This is. Two. 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I guess I say steely Dan, is why to cake client, you guys have really gotten in there and take an advantage of this new medium. Well, when we first started doing it, we realized that this was sort of the perfect place to publish in a funny, sort of way sort of running gags that we've had going, you know, when we're working or when we're hanging out or something for years. And so we just sort of type them up and sling him up there. And, and it got to be a pretty, you know. Productive process for us, if you can consider, you know, the kind of thing that we're putting up there is, you know, worth while product. I mean, we you know, I think we started with liner notes which we've written for albums, and because of the, the hype that you're subjected to in music business. We figured, we'd just we started out sort of hyping ourselves in a way with a little Umer. And I think the website gives us another, you know, outlet for that. And it's a good place to dump stuff. That's not really a song or something that were maybe all that serious about, but it's fun. I to do it's like when we're writing songs you know, will, we'll take a break in like, you know, write a poison pen letter to somebody or something. And you know, and then throw it on the website promotional offer to dean address, right? Or limb. Yeah. I'm only, you know, the. You know, the one of the things that happens when you are successful to some noticeable extent as an artist is that, you know, things tend to turn into big productions. You know, you, you, you're not just writing a song for the sake of writing a song writing a song as part of an album, and then you're going to do the album and it's going to take a long time and then you're not gonna go just playing a club. You're going to go and do a huge tour, you know, across three continents, and so on. And that can be a problem in that you don't sort of have the avenues to do things just sort of quickly in a light hearted way or, you know, in the way that playful way, and the website, sort of good for us for that, you know, I think it feeds back into the songs in a way too, because, you know, because, you know, whether we try to pay attention to it or not, there is a certain amount of pressure, you know, putting on an album for twenty years. And, and it's true. Though we've never really written for audience really, we right to amuse ourselves really there is it is difficult. You know, knowing that. Well, you know what if one of these songs isn't, you know, of, you know, incredible quality that, that people expect, you know, and I think by the writing stuff for the website we can get back in the mood of just kind of, you know, having fun with it, and it makes the songwriting process, maybe less serious. Unless you dire you know that casino. You tend to fall into bad habits when when his expectations the album is called two against nature and that is the title track. Why is that the title track? Well, let's see two against nature. The two is, is as Walter and myself and nature. I think we're mostly talking about human nature, although a lot of the letter, especially on notice, European stick worst, like anti environment or something like that. But nature's really it has to do with art versus nature. That has to do with overcoming obstacles that, that nature supplies, like, you know, getting older and dumber. And maybe not having as many ideas as you did when you were, you know, nineteen and we still have lots of ideas that just, you know, just maybe we can't have the same good ideas again that we had, when we right? It's like good ideas, you're going up and said that artists physically only one good idea and just kind of, you know, variations on we'll so what was good idea. That's whatever it is. We're, we're still working. We're still. We're still dining out on it. And it's on two against nature. Crew? Back. Last night. Darren. Gotta have. Housewife. Got. I actually hear a bit of supernatural in there. There's right. That's right. Well, and that was sort of part of the part of the conceit part of the conceit was that, you know, the nature we were talking about was fraught with, you know, supernatural demons and, you know, mischief makers and the demons being metaphors for all the, the obstacles that are placed in peasant. We also the, the summer also advertising, help other people with their demons as well as our fans a like the thank you. Like sort of a love letter from us, almost like we, we had an eight hundred number or something they could cost. And we've like in our living room in our twenty four seventy nine or a nine hundred number and make a few dollars out Murnau two against nature, the title track in the brand new steely Dan album in stores, Tuesday, coming up, we're going to hear some live music from steely Dan on the SF X radio network. Live music. Saturday, thirteen hundred hours. Your army reserve unit has twenty minutes to evacuate a patient from field hospital watch that. I do you perform as a team Haitian to secure job alpha four one skills. You learn from us on a weekend will come in handy back at work at your local hospital on Monday patient arrests. Have a pulse service littlest one weekend a month two weeks year. Visit the army reserve at goarmy reserved dot com paid for by the US army reserve. Got. Got. Me too. Well, actually got a rhythms DSL connection to the internet. I got that too, with rhythm Stelling ten Neg music files, no problem. Daisy in green pastures blue skies. Video graphic files no time. 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Call one eight hundred USA navy or visit our website at WWW dot navy. Jobs dot com. Maybe let the journey begin paid for by US navy this world premiere broadcast is being brought to you by the US navy. Let the journey begin. For more information, call one eight hundred USA navy and by rhythms internet services. This is the SF X radio network. Live music. Yeah. They. We've we've. Eight hundred eight hundred different promotional schemes have been launched at, you know, concerning us in the last seven days, and we've lost track of a few of them in the, you know, in the process. Yesterday. They had a sign a Stratocaster. I don't even play the guitar. Whose name did you sign? Your. They're gonna have you sign a keyboard soon perfectly willing to do it. But I'll have to sign it with just two fingers or something. That's how I play. Welcome back to the world. Premiere broadcast of steely Dan's two against nature a few weeks ago. Steely Dan taped a show for PBS's in the spotlight series. That'll air March, I have you guys done a lot of TV because you kind of miss the video age sort of the MTV thing happened. We tried to wait it out. And unfortunately you know it's not quite gone on a waiting, but we couldn't wait quite long enough apparently. Yeah, really, we had to get back in there, and it's still an it's, it's, it's less throws. So you've been mixing the performance. How's that coming along? Good. Yeah, we're free to look at the video portion of we only have to deal. Luckily, with the audio portion we've seen little pieces. I guess of, of the video, and, you know, it's like it's just it's to put you on overload our plans to swap in for the for the for the video portion of the program at the last possible minute. Swap in an experimental movie. From the late sixties you know, something, that's mostly just. Flickering lighter animation, color, you know, strips of colored drawn them Czechoslovakian, something like that. And, and, you know, so you'll have not only we have the, the good steely Dan music. But you'll have some really stimulating thought provoking visual visual images. Well, luckily, this is radio. So we'll just keep that in mind as we listen to a few of the songs from steely Dan's PBS performance. That's right. What? Music. Though some. Did you? With. Getting. One stop. Lift you. The. Burs. Will all end up entail? Some live music from steely Dan, from the upcoming PBS in the spotlight series that will air on March. First check your local listings for broadcast times as they say, now you guys are set for US amphitheatre arena tour, beginning may, and then onto Europe and Japan in the fall. Steely Dan in seventy three called touring quits, and it took about twenty years and you came back on the road. Why the change? Well, it's twenty year thing again we're talking about seventy four so that would make a. Nineteen years those, my whole theory that, hey, nineteenth thing. You know, as it happens between the years of nineteen seventy four and nineteen Ninety-three, incredible advances had been made in the in your of technology of touring rock, and roll bands, and not only that some pretty substantial economic gains had been made as well. Wherein would actually be able to make money rather than lose money. The way we were doing it in the seventies. And, you know, the, plus we get the headline instead of open for other bands. Yeah. You know, it's we're big stars. You know, works of strutting around like we own medium stars. Really? You know what we don't have to know that we get to headline? We think we're big stars. You know we act like we're victims. We don't have to, you know, for those those, you know, Texas metal bands anymore. They were scary. Yeah. Really? They're big some of the guys. So touring is something you enjoy. No. Yeah. It's great. And you know, we really look forward to it. We have a great band. You know, we have a fairly substantial and growing book of songs to choose from. So we don't get tired of playing the same things over and over again, even even some of our oldest songs there's enough to them, that's of interest to us that we can, you know, do new versions of them are rewrites of them are, are Monica, revamping that, that, you know, so that you have the advantage of playing something that the audience is familiar with and, and yet it sort of fresh at the same time. So we, we've had a great time. That's great. I know a gr- I grew up listening to music. And I was always heartbroken throughout high school because it was really does toward the studio band. They're not gonna tour highschool to, you know, it was I take the subway, first of all, and, you know, sensually I had to go through three boroughs. No to get you know, I had a special school, I went to Brooklyn through Brooklyn, you know, without stopping and Brooklyn and then ended up in Manhattan, you think this, but I had a ride three boroughs. Deep in the farmland of New Jersey. It was, you know, it was like, you know, once you get up the Melia swing a vine. Well San you've come through all that and you're on the road and making, you know, former kids happy because. Well, we're all thrilled data. Service, anytime we like it. It's been a pleasure. The new album two against nature Walter Becker, Donald Fagin, steely Dan, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Nice to talk to you, too.

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267: Jazz & Conversation

Overnight Drive

1:52:23 hr | 10 months ago

267: Jazz & Conversation

"Pau I left June the seventh zero use of Bannon. Thanks for calling home easily. The Best Song on that record make sure we get the Jazz John. Donald Fagan of the night fly album name. And that's that's the netflix tonight. For that is what is that What do they call that the pomace and the Economist Song? Now I wouldn't win. You imagine us which I know you do because you listen to us in space right picture us in look at the cover them out fly in the picture. Us looking like that dapper smoking a cigarette and then also playing albums with a on the air sign flashing at. You remind you that you're on the air we should get on the air sign for this. Hang it outside the door. I'll do it when I turn the music down. I'll turn on the air sign and then I'll I'll point you like this silent point three on TV. They're supposed to be the five four three. I'm such an idiot that when you did that immediately. Started to nod like Wayne's World Donald Fake. The knife fly an album not to be missed. Then we've played The big track off of that one. That's I g y what a wonderful world. It's a great song suppressions. It's about Spend jackets one for everyone which I love that. Line A lot. I love when people say things like one for everyone. It's great you can really see the fucking bus station in the picture. I guess it was actual functioning bus station at that point. We're looking at a picture of Albany. New York near like an old photo before before. The Plaza concede that neighborhood. That would have been anything other than just like whole that. You're afraid to drive exactly. It's funny there's Yeah I'm Andrew has decided to redecorate on over one overnight drive plaza just hung out some pictures of all old Albany Inspire myself to you. Know Andrew's Mr Albany now. We went to a game last night. I'm officially the mayor of this town is a we had a couple of beers and washed you. Xfl game before then we went to Albany protrudes game. Look them up. Pat are going undefeated down fucking champs of whatever podunk asked fucking basketball league. They're in their early and called. Not Kidding called the basketball league. That's really good great. There's like something out of a like a like a feel-good movie that is definitely something that was in named around a url at somebody already bought www dot willie dot cover fucking around care. They have we could easily get sponsorship from guess for them but we went and it was a lot of fun I went back to my old school ways of heckling. If you could explain Andrew explaining things idea to other people. There's one dude on the other team who is wearing an undershirt under his jersey. Yeah which is fine now for some reason you took umbrage with and I think some people will back me up when you were in high school and a person who wore a t shirt a white t shirt under your jersey. That was always a little Herbie. Yeah I mean I get AIDS like going swimming shirt on not taking your showed off when you're about to have intercourse but so I cannot. I never thought about people leave their shirts on during sex. Holy Fuck Yeah. It's a fascinating thing. Big Time people listening. Who Do that. Who have done that. That women who have encountered men who have left their shirt on. And that's a whole thing. That's the same thing the guy gets the same guy who leaves us who doesn't take shirt off and he's swimming is the same guy who won't take a shirt off when when she is taken. Oliver stuff off. You keep your shirt on that really weird fuck. That brought me somewhere. That's weird so he he looked very Herbie and it reminded me. It reminded me of a long sleeve. White was nine thousand degrees in the armory where we were watching the Albany armory where we were watching the game. Nine thousand degrees and there is a greenhouse in there and he had a long sleeve white t shirt sleeves rolled up so really they really kind of casually. Capri shirt is really weird. Yeah so when you want to push these buttons. I would've yelled anything. You always a great way to put somebody down this a clown what they're wearing. Yeah it's you have to clown somebody you gotta clown on something that's like you can't send say like high. Your your mother has cancer like is but isn't it? Doesn't it the same staying power as if you just pointed somebody and Yell undershirts undershirt? Which is all. We did for the entire game every time the man had the ball in his hands we would just start shouting undershirts but the best part was I started the undershirt chance of closer to the MIC. Here I think it in there. I hear myself breathing hate it. I started the undershirt chant and much to the joy of the people behind us and then so under chartres and then a couple of people in front of us for like under shirt guys behind US undershirt then a girl to the right of US yelled undershirt and then people across the way were yelling under shutting. By the end there was at least one person in every section yelling undershirt. It was so good one of my one of my biggest achievement that nobody cared about story of my life right. It actually upset me a little bit because as it was going on it was thing like we set this in motion. Now we cannot stop it now. No I wanted to find the team buzz and be like. Why did you rather whack undershirt? Aw Man they left real quick. I mean you know for sure as these guys are getting changed. At least one person was listening about the undershirt man. Like the undershirts good. That was good but he fucked every timing mess. Everyone would be like undershirt. He invited you. Once you've got under his skin. He looked right behind. You look back when waved at me Bert. It was the best. It was a great game. It was a great game. It's like I'm all in a whole thing with the bleacher creatures. Now a whole group of people who are going to be unruly and and they like people love it. Yeah if you're If you're in the Albany area you should become a troon bleacher creature. God we should make sure. It's the protrusion bleacher creatures. Everybody gets together and heckles Felix. Somebody owns the copyright the bleacher creatures. Like some fucking Bronx Dickhead. Would sue US surely will find some other pun will be signed more Bronx. Dickhead is more of an archetype. Like that's due to watch way too much sopranos and got the first girl who took her clothes off in front of a pregnant. Yeah this is a guy who has his company that doesn't do anything on his as his job unlinked. He's just looking for this options as a consultant. Yes perfect so it was. It was a great night. It was wonderful. Now add a great time. Kim back drank some more alcohol. Fine you know what we're doing lately. I got to cut back on your drank for what like two days in a row. That's very unlike me. That is very unlikely you're you're usually at teetotal. Yeah no it's not GonNa do for me and stop. I won't back the Seltzer today. Got Intended Oh like regular salesman. Rights spiked all there is. Was that stupid bullshit. White cloth in the fridge. If you'd like one WHOA I wanna get clogged toilet claw and now. I can't now I'm sitting down. I'm seated yeah area. It's Sunday a long weekend. Yeah yeah a lazy Sunday aren't working tomorrow. I am you all residents there. Let's socks tomorrow going to my sauna. I'll really focused club going gay sauna. Are you really going there now? I'm going to the real on a New York you are. I am excited looking forward to this. All we could just going to New York for the sun for this on a real. I kind of want to pick up some stuff too but a a you know whenever me. Good Yeah But yeah no I just like just want to and I don't have any reason to not just go to New York and a whim so that's what I'm GonNa do. There's a lot of reasons not to go to New York on a whim to talk about. The League chair may do that. Why why are you going to New York on a whim? I want to go to the sauna because you missed the city that never sleeps. I miss the Sauna and I missed my bone. Broth place okay. That's it that's all. Yeah Wow I know. You're looking for some ulterior motive. Like I'm not going to allow some shit but to no I am. I am going to by the time you hear this. My Stress Level. It will be through the fucking ocean floor always so relaxed as you hear this. I'll probably be in the sauna. No actually no that'd be waves waves crashing against the inner walls of your soul crashing but then suddenly not Clark Crashing ever witnessed like a still ocean. Who are just a little bit in a little bit out. It's almost like sitting on the line. Lake Superior where select superior has a reputation as a very wild great lake of the greatest of the Great Lakes? Has its own weather system does it has shipwrecks every year. You're on a on a trawler. The lake never gives up her dead now. Never and they're like the Edmund Fitzgerald Yemen Fitzgerald sunk. But it's so cold that the people who died inside are still preserved when they went down and just to check out. What's going on down there? Because that's what scuba people do. I guess are there still people? And there's people in there and this dude who kept following them around and he was very dead. Wow that's so upsetting. Its food around down there. There's there's a book I forget what it's called. It's called Lake shadow divers or some shit like that. About Hitler's secret divers ever netflix documentary. Hitler's REIVER's says fun. No about guys who find an unidentified U boat off the coast of what the Fuck New Jersey and so they try to keep it a secret because you don't want everyone in Iraq and the book just details. How fucking insanely dangerous dangerous. It is to be a wreck diver. And I've I've been reading it on a boat. I like my palm started to get sweaty reading this one chapter about how because I think it talked about you. You go down and as you're down there. I think it's nitrogen builds up in your blood and you basically start to get drunk because you just don't have access to oxygen. Does the same thing as what happens. Man Who sold the plan in Seattle is that right. Yeah he died of Hypoxia. Is like when you start feeling drunk? You have an oxygen. Wow how weird. Because I don't know man and then just crash boom done drunk driving a plane awesome. So you do that. But then you're also swimming through a wreck where every minor motion. You may kicks up Dustin Silt and Shit so you have to be drunk and be doing that but still remember your way out in time before your oxygen runs at like. It's fucking harrowing. Now imagine doing that with a dead guy following you around. It seems that seems miserable. I'm freely unhappy even talking about right. Now that's the word. Wow but you're doing for like if you have a youtube channel Andrew Dives montage just diving and then coming out of the water. Just a frogman. What she meant. Wacky YouTube channel be now that youtube is totally not profitable. Now I'm going to do it. Content or name content the name the name itself one of my favorite youtubers of all time is Steve. Nineteen eighty-nine Info the good one. The Guy who finds old military rations Amari is meals ready to eat usually From like the fifties and sixties sometimes new ones a lot of times in the fifties and sixties and then he just fucking get some he buys two one for his private collection love him one for his private collection in one to take apart like on box and eat live and he's he gave himself E. coli wants. I believe that. But he's sometimes he's cute. He's like so in such a nerd and so into rations. He wears a white lab coat with gloves and a mask when opens up the really old one but he did. There was one from seventeen sixty five ration that he actually was able to see. Something called bully beef which is like very preserved beef basically hunk of beef that you all like one person in the unit not even a unit who didn't even have anything that advanced to have like a unit of men who would like patrol. They just had a line of men of one of the group. Whatever would carry a basically a hunk of meat on a sat in a sack around his like around a shoulder and someone hungry. You'd hand them the Hunk of meat and you take a bite of the bully beef and that's it like say we went on a road trip and we just had a big hunk of fucking like a pig on a spit. Exactly Yeah Yeah. Take a big bite of meat. But it was so however they did it. It was so well preserved secured. Whatever you WANNA call it that I mean that's how they discovered the such thing as rabbit starvation because of some of Washington's troops. Were getting ill because all of the eight was the bully beef and you had no nothing else your body to go on. That's what I've been doing all month. Yeah you're GonNa die of rabbit stories. I I haven't gotten a sore mouth or anything. It's been fun yet. She hasn't even gotten a sore my mouth or any. Yeah No. I'm good really funny. Outside of context. Really Funny Deadpan. Somebody turned the podcast on right at that point over the well. Yeah it's really upsetting. I don't like that at all had hard tack have Iran a heart attack. No she'd have a heart attack. They're fun I saw. I feel sometimes I feel like I am going to have one. I hope we don't seems terrible. I mean I just feel very unhealthy sometimes like if after climb a lot of stairs. I feel really really like I'm GonNa die and that's not good. No no definitely not gonNA work those stairs every day. Now I don't never do. This isn't the fucking eighteen hundreds. I don't need to climb stairs. There's elevator thanks. I don't need to my guy. Just don't I mean I if give me a reason like health do not have a heart attack is the reason. I don't get it. No but that's not that's not like how I mean but that is the reason that's built in. I don't get it all you people out there back me up the stairs or fucking lame building your awful but you awful things. No I told you about that guy. The there was a lot of ways like changed my entire perspective on on fitness. Not Enough that I am. I have a funny body but I used to. I used to be pretty heavy kid and I was working at working at the spot a bunch of years ago. And there's this one dude who worked at the the place down the street who was like I don't know probably like forty two and just like in super super good shape and was always you know whatever like going and doing marathons and shit like that and he would come into our store and three of us sitting there like the between the three of us. I don't think it'd be safe to get a ride with rolling. Man was up kept fit. He's talk he was talking about doing like you know what eventually became the Spartan race or some some bullshit like that sounds. That sounds a little. You know yeah I mean you know fucking whatever. My Co workers do what he wanted to do this and he like stared off into space. It's like you know. Sometimes you gotTa do things not always fun govern leftism fuck right. Now as it added aged old outdated philosophies do get some tale though great good friend. Sorta why I remember. I don't take that if I don't take the stairs unless I have to definitely unless I I'd say I was like all boy. I'll take the stairs. Today was the fucking best. I think about that. Shit maybe I do have a problem. Thank you bye-bye upsetting me a bit. Yeah now I just wish I could drive everywhere and not climb stairs and still live. I don't like having to do things like being forced to be out of breath. Mike that there's a activity that I do that makes me out of breath and enjoy it. Put that's That's that's a secret private thing I'm talking about. Buying closed doors talking about beating off. Yes really out of breath no I don't I don't really have. That would be that if I out of breath from tap wire right there. That's a trip wire. Yeah breath from doing that. That's when I know okay. Find time to eat chick peas all the time and exercise is but for now those. GonNa let it ride all right. This is going to Dido after this. I might don't put his right between us now. It's true Erin. The temporary headquarters. I've I've pulled up stakes and I've moved to a place that when I first walked in. It felt like it felt like that. That movie The frighteners down where the grim reaper grabs your heart. And you're like a and that's how I felt but then I as around. I'd said you know what? Maybe this is a good place to live a stupidly intense spartan lifestyle for a few weeks so I'm prairie doing temporary home of one overnight drive plaza. We had to lay Steve and Lon off. That didn't go well today. Yeah no it's really strange. I feel like Alana's chasing me. No Lan move to Maryland. Do I with his family and wife But St here's how line supposed to do because they didn't save any money on his Soviet Steve to the To the joy of some people out there Steve is going back to film going back doing film he quit doing film to work for us. Which worked out great for like a year and a half and he's enjoyed his time in Albany but we had to let him go unfortunately and those fine. There are some laughs. There are some tears. We went to Long Horn. Steakhouse someone yeah. I asked them to each drive themselves. Which was weird. They're like well right over with the animals. Like well. We all just ride in my my backseats. All Day I got a lot of filled dresser back there. Yeah I purposely put like a like a dresser my backseat. So Stephen Lawn couldn't sit back pair. Our lawn can sit back and if things I did it before we got the food and then they were sitting there eating like Calculating how much it's GONNA cost. Yeah it was the whole thing but luckily longhorn steakhouse and this is this. Is our new advertise along strong. Longhorn steakhouse long horn. Long Horn steakhouse I went there alone. A couple of weeks ago plays go places alone. I who's weird but I think alley that's one of the stake in your choice of stakes there. Yeah I was already feeling weird going alone you know. It's never great feeling so I sit down and they seat meet a booth alone next to a family who I'll look at me as though I'm like like he's maybe he's detective on a case. Seniors should bring a laptop. And pretend you're working that'd be per exactly I should've so I I just order. Steak houses stake center cook sound. Oh can I do There was an option for things like sauteed mushrooms and onions or something like that suddenly. Yes can we list all the types of steaks? We know real quick. Sure Zoe Salisbury. Ridi- Senator Code Flat Iron Montreal Denver New York Strip Flank Porterhouse Prime Rib Oh hold on. There's another this week has to be another one. I was probably twenty more. Oh Tube steak tube steak. I don't think that counts. No that's a that's the type of thing interesting. All right can I say miss then and then where we just keep going now. I can't no I can't think of any others. You Win. All right. Not Bad talk can use. Can you name any other? We do flaming Yom. Yeah Damn it. We didn't do filet Mignon home or or Philly cheese steak. Cows have to wash steak. Stay Calm God damn it. Yeah there you go. My parents will leave. A box of stay comes for me when I came home from school. I haven't had stadiums a minute. She gets to cook the myself and they would get the whole house would smell like steak and then they would get mad them house not stay calm and I was like you've left these from would you boys like a microwave them. Eat them raw like a monster. Jeez I don't know where you come from them anyway so All right so Steak alone steak and get like just mushrooms and onions. Cool great glass of water. Please thank you God. Does the depression meal and I get that later. Look Oh no problem but GOTCHA DUDE. Whatever billboard therapist. I only want a woman waiter yes like I want. A woman doesn't seem particularly interested in speaking to me. That's all I I am Jerry in al-Bir Great Jerry. I'll be making everything perfect for you. Know what I want. Show stop talking okay. So this is Pepsi's okay. No no no. It's not never so. He's a very cool. I'll be right back with your bread. Whatever finds so breath comes back with a loaf of bread. The size of my forearm comes back with all of the bread. Yeah it's just insane. They want too big to end like a bowl of butter like a bowl. Like me making this hand gesture in my hand is the size of the ball was a half a coconut. Why because that's what they do there so this is cool because I was GONNA go. There are you can. It's yesterday didn't should have so. They bring me enough bread for a family. I like make like kind of a polite effort to work Ghana. I would have just said I don't do this. And then they come out with well they he met with a cocky teen. They came out with a P- now they they they bring all the shit over and like the sides came out with the program that you download instead of Photoshop. Yeah they photoshop. Next they bring the site. The baked potato that again is like the size of a fist football and then they bring the steak which is massive even though like I ordered like a normal sized ones left to go to Longhorn but the best part yet and then they bring out the onions and mushrooms. They're supposed to go on a stake in another half coconut bolt. Like it's insane. How much food is in front of me. And now I'm feeling self conscious and there's like maximum yearly scope and me now to my world's going on with this wingnut. I push everything but the steak away steak and then I like. I felt like the need to be polite so I had like a little bit of the things. I'm like all right. That's it again to any more polite. You only dessert. No God no no what do you do. Bring me a gallon of ice cream and a spoon. So he goes. He gets my check and he comes back. All of that food cost like eighteen dollars with tip. I don't understand how this place stays in. Business is fucking mental. The places Oh I drive by sometimes places always palace packed. Yeah really really nuts. I don't get it at all. I drove through the parking lot once and there was a lot of there. Were three like F. One fifty or Silverado. Trucks like the American sniper wind up parked in two spots backed up onto a snowbank like three dudes. Went there a book? Not only. We're GONNA meet at at that long Longhorn. We're going to let them know what's showing a thing or what time it is all. Have the fucking Walmart. Chris Kyle fucking seat covers. Yes totally. They have Walmart everything every day except every accessory for their like bunk. Fucking AIR FIFTEEN. They got like for thirty eight bucks really good like oh. I go to buy I gotTa Focus in GonNa midnight scope. It doesn't really work that way. No I got some fuel. Additive for the truck. Oh Great. I got a box of Kleenex when I spoke at night. When I realize Chris Kyle Brandon Kleenex Joe so I got I got truck not say failed potential on them. I got pink truck not because it's breast cancer month. I actually saw that changed the fucking truck. Nuts out for the month emerged changed the color of the truck once because this is my black history month truck. Nuts these in my truck nuts. Oh the red and green. Yeah Red. Golden Green is my reggae trucks. Golden Green was for to What the the celebrate the month that highly selassie iodide by have read Golden Green truck nuts? We should start. We should take both of our cards in decade out with IRA stuff I said about. We were talking about your. Ira supporting neighbor IRA neighbor. Yes the one who also has the black lives still in Italics matter. Yes sign that stays in the window all year. Saint Patrick's he had an IRA mural complete with a drawing of men men in bollock lava and arming Greens. Holding a gun. I got the struggle is not over. I'm pretty sure it's shouldn't fain and I'm pretty sure it's over get ready. We're coming back when I was done. Prescott brisket cheeses now that brexit is not without sweet Libyan cash and plastic. That is true. I don't know who's giving them well. There's a few People who think of geopolitically Shirl said still you fucked on guns my blow up in your hand when you shoot them absolutely sure well. They had was weird like a Korean ks and they had some plastic that a us the most of it during the Manchester Truck Bombing And then there were like well. Shit this Kilani one now. What his blue truck. And all this other stuff because you partake. They parked it in front of a department store. And people are like Oh and then they say they witnessed two men and there were wearing masks when they parked the truck like Jude. Sucking Benny Hill. Music the ran into another waiting car. The promptly stalled out and they had a push to get going again and then they Florida and people were like Oh. This isn't Kosher. Outta here because this is clearly an IRA what I miss my be. Ira trucking forget here. And then they're called the cops and the cops call the army and then they all came in and then they had a controlled demolition of the fucking truck and blew up really good. I such such clowns like good God Sapa in the middle and like middle of the road. Like say you like. You're driving through like a windy road. And then they would stop the car and ask who you are. And it's like I just live. He really weird anyway and then they took that sweet. Libyan cash never really hope that the truck had something like Irish Rosa. Ray You know like on the side or something like that flowers Irene. Liam's moving right. Oh the the Simpson's reference bet there was. I have like a friend strong where I've gotten acquaintance. Who is like big in the Julian? Assange thing Pam Anderson Connection was it Pam Anderson who married the guy for eight days. That was Britney Spears I get to the bottom of this but yeah she was saying that like when it was everyone was over there because they knew they were coming for assange pretty soon they were trying to kick them out and she was saying that at four in the morning. A flower truck. It's it's it's four in the morning. Do you think you're fooling. Are you kidding spread? I WanNa vote was heart. Warming is that. When Julian assange and Pam Anderson Struck Unlikely Friendship and maybe romance? I don't know I mean they harpies right. It's chill the fuck mix and match but she. Yeah I know I mean it's all at that point. Love is just a simplex as a gets and she brought him a whole foods bag which I thought was very nice four probably Guac you remember that full of Guac and other things you get at whole city maybe maybe some light seen zinc for the the hairpiece and yeah that was I thought those are very touching and I bet. Tommy Lee was stung by jealousy. Over that you know she fucked. 'cause you think like fifteen years ago she was fucking. Tommy Lee on a boat calling in Babe and now she's in in Britain choosing Britain Britain. Pretend she's in the British Isles Commiserating with Julian assange as a weird way to get back in the spotlight. But nobody really. This is barb wire Mike. I'm sure he has all of his geopolitical shit. But I'm sure when. Barb wire was in the house he drew the curtain. Kidding me and for one night. I'm just going to pretend that I love like really big. Big boobs go to town. And he's like you know I might go to a British jail which is fine. Go to Scotland Yard but tonight. I'M GONNA pretend I'm Tommy Lee and not Julian's do drum solo. Br London. Are You fucking with me? So Pam Anderson did she married a guy named John Peter so I guess he's earn. Maybe a billionaire dumb normal name yet. He looks like a done. Normal Guy Marries him. He pays off a quarter of a million dollars of debt. And then she divorces him twelve days after they're married love it to that that's big Clinton energy. I'll say you fucking this is a big scam energy and I fucking love it. It's great to quit energy. Right there fucking excuses. I'm not an easy life I mean. Yeah but the the pay off the debt. That's great didn't get married to do that. Probably probably like a one time when night. Tango type thing bless alimony. He probably still had a place Alma. And how was she that much in debt Negoti Zoo? Stand right badland deal. I feel like if you're penalty Anderson. It can't be that hard to scrape together a quarter of a million dollars right. Maybe knows he's GonNa burn through. I mean Pam pockets but she did probably burn through a lot of her Goodwill friends and money in the late nineties early two thousand sure but I mean like there's no shortage of people in Hollywood who were like. I want you to debase yourself in this movie year. For like Ottawa's reality show or something like that's the thing she could have done. A lot of like Russ Meyer Fuckin- ask like oh begging barely see your to like. She must have done a bunch of direct to the she could have done a bunch of video like things but she didn't to her credit she didn't it's weird but she should have of all people she definitely should have on the. Tom selleck on the skids playing. The you know hardcore detective and then there she is but like it's like those early two thousands like B. Movies like you never ever see them. Yeah featuring Nicholas Cage on the skids. Yeah it's very. I don't know I don't get it but I do not for me to get old commercials. My friends I I know. Do you remember one? Eight eight point to three hundred m course video which is why I love you too. I love the world. Even of the world is sinking slip. Quickly a Sinden irreparably so you won't become Catholic with me. No everybody else's everybody else is telling me I can't wait. Everyone else was telling me. I can't swear I can't fuck the way I want to And I can't think about things without Without revealing myself to be evil so in a way everybody's Catholic already. It's very strange but I found every iteration of the empire today video. I love this. It is three minutes long. Let's see how long we can Gov? Let's do it Not The best quality. Remember this you remember this year. This is from nineteen seventy seven until now SMU's forty two different versions of this. She's price subtle differences. Eight hundred comes in. I love it. This one's weird era not today today. A strange it's kind of eerie right. If you're unemployed at any point in your life you heard this commercial lot. Because apparently unemployed people can afford new flooring gutters on there today the abandoned today and then they come back to now. We're in the homestretch today. A today based on that today. It's wild two point three million views. I believe logo. History is become a really big thing. New to yeah. That sounds about right. We'd like we've run out of things to be interested in. I love it. It's has only as one thousand Dislikes one thousand one. I like it but this person pain I made it wasn't painstakingly. Went through all like finding videoclips people like a people have videos on youtube with eight hours of TV from Nineteen Ninety eight eight hours of TV from ninety nine or whatever does like as long as the longest vhs tape what allow and he went through meticulously found this commercial and each tape. He's tells the story. It's really fucking say well so fucking cool but there's reminded me of being unemployed and there's one commercial that I absolutely loved that isn't on anymore and that's the education connection compilers numberless. I don't think so okay. So this is the one I am at the time because the woman the woman had on a tight jeans and white belt okay. She looked almost seen and I thought. Wow she's really attractive but when people hear the song that's going to get stuck in their head and I apologize in advance. Now I'm ready. This is the ten hour version of the video. Born cast education is what I do. Remember this yeah. She does looking vaguely seen. Yeah Act shunned. I'm taking Mike. Glad to get in contact with the right call. Connect or pray that the implication that colleges free right and that you can play music that colleges so fun to play playing music since skipworth one hundred dollars worth one dollars. What if this is? This is in the height of the student. Loan fucking Scam Time. Which is great so that was a particular mentor. Particular memory for me as far as being unemployed and watching that at one point I was like wow I should do that the unemployed TV commercial. I always think of is Inventor Help Oh God yeah Colin Winter Hope Yeah logo with the fucking guy working on the wheel a little help. Oh my God is it called Invent Help. I think so boy. I can't find it. Oh Shit and then there's always the big dog J. G. Wentworth so many the election Hugh O'Neill was on those. I fucking love Shaquille. O'neal style. He'll just take money from any goddamn person in front of his face he could care less sake. He's moonwalking with the insurance general right now. It's fucking great found. Inventors invent help can help you try to patent your idea. Inserted COMPANIES Tupperware. Two thousand nine can for Free Information. Inventors invent help can help you try says all of the commercials in two thousand nine one eight hundred invention for free information he has a caveman inventing the wheel. It's just needs a little assistance. Making the wheel pat your. Id COMPANIES CALL. One eight hundred invention for free information. How many people call the one eight hundred invention when they're unemployed like it's crazy that it makes you feel like this hope? Yeah I I don't time TV commercials really. If I'm in a bad place and they're on like a doctor's office or some Shit Oh fuck they will depress the shit out of me Speaking of being unemployed our friend Ryan Fenwick is now employed and I know what cost at what cost our show to kill before him to leave But I got my drop today from the job I start today so I get. It goes through that. Would they call like a even? Even though they're told to five so my first shift today is told to five more like an orientation ship so I get to learn about the job. I'm doing and they'll have somebody come and talk me take notes and the hopes that I could sell stuff so I am very good at listening to other to other able to help out but any money that I could bring in so if I could do good if I could apply that towards stelling commissioning the naked bringing more money In the night can go long term in this job because of what what they do every year and they go on vacations every year and like Columbus eventually and so. I'm hoping that this works out for me and I can go do that. And the job pays pays every week. So that's a good thing. That's one reason why like just opposite page every week but how much is commission and also because I get paid a decent amount even guaranteed a two thousand. I'm guaranteed anywhere between two thousand eight thousand dollars a month. Just like Becker asked how that works out. If they've been told you what you're making it to dude now Ryan Fenwick our love right job selling door to door for sound like Dora. Dora sounds like fucking. It's does he explain it more now. He doesn't. He was a weird like kind of explained it. But it's definitely a like a pyramid Amal. Would you look to consolidate your student loans with hello. Would you like to him well? But he's going to miss concert on Wednesday for the day when Wisconsin. Lau are out. Indiana to Wisconsin is So it's like pretty far. Let's well he's driving now. You could do it not that bad. Start like knocking on doors and selling someone to items on chose to be selling until Monday. So watch doorway kicking rocks on Thursday today to be knocking on doors. Kind of build up my confidence. Because I'm the type of person that can be kinda nervous if I don't know what I'm doing. Yes so eventually knocked on the doors. I'd not done six dollars today. Three four people answer not six for people answered. The first guy was just an fucking bastard. The second one was nice enough when I answered. But she wasn't homeowners. I moved on to the next house so then I answered and I knocked on the third door Delaney get answer But when I pulled out what selling interested so I had to put it back in the car I drive around in was it was whatever the person was doing business. So I'M NOT GONNA put your business out there but but my only day off from this job as Sunday so we work six days a week Monday to Saturday. Sunday off are we. Actually we could work on but it's optional. We don't have to so. I'm probably going to just have Sundays off. That's it now this Tuesday. I won't be able to post any videos because I'm going to be out in Wisconsin but the company that I'm with and we're going to be meeting to famous people on one guy. I didn't know who he was but he is famous for the for the for the company. Michael Vincent his name. His name is Ernest. Webb artist was a guy that started off with this company that I work for Kirby called Kirby that's the company I work for. Oh vacuums what I'm doing. But he has a very business like skill and he. He's been very successful when he started off working. This was back in the fifties or sixties. Because he's in a sixty so when he started working he got a job as a window. Washer. That was back in that time was only paying two seventy where we're chip and then hates so. He started reading the ads saying and then he started branching out trying to figure out. Okay what job can I he thinks can I do that will make me money? Okay okay all right. We got got got we got. We got okay. I just Google did he is twenty. Twenty and our man is selling vacuums door to door which is cool because I understand you get two for you. Get the fuck a lot and you get to murder a lot if forensic files unless you know. They've lied to Peter's doesn't lie. So that's cool. That Ryan van with really gets experience life. I hope he gets them dome. But it'd be great if he just like well. I don't WanNA vacuum cleaner but tens on business I have given a Manhattan quite a while. Engineers like he returned down No no way Qisas Coxswain. Speaking of nautical things. Wow Wow wow you know I What we like. Let's let's keep this is the most interesting storyline. He's had a this year so keep going baby. He's very so we so they ride around in a van going door to door selling which I've seen people do. I never seen this in. My life has interested. I've seen it. I've seen it with people who like go to restaurants and to try to sell knives or knives sharpening my I had dude. Oh Yeah I mean businesses. Yes seen people do it at businesses now a Oh God. This is the door of my home trying to sell something. I can go to out assault. You can go to target and spent fifty bucks and get a vacuum the last five years. It's not going to be great. Jamie dyson knocks on my door. Not Interested. It's not going to be like the mega ones they have that run over fucking suck rabbit. Yeah exactly the ones that the one that ran over Chris Elliott every time for two years electrolux. Which is the greatest bit ever done Dave Letterman? The nervous guy. Who He would he would. Chris. Elliott is important genius used like transition from being the guy under the stairs David Letterman to being the nervous guy or the like he was he was the paranoid guy then he he was a. They're all going to get. You know I gotta get Outta here in. You'd bring Keith. Run Away with his family and child and then you run into a hallway. And then they'd be like he's being run over by something and it would just be like the fucking vacuum cleaner would run them over and then it would be like it but it went on. I Still WanNa do our other podcasts. We talk over every every episode of get a life if we can get him on the last episode. It'd be so much fun. Cast that's fine call it. What would we call it? GotTa Life? I don't know he's apparently very accessible. And he's made a bit of money in Canada good so good for him and he drove a Renault way back when which I can talk to him about driving. And we're now that'll be my. That'll be the little Easter Egg. I can talk about how the only time me and my father ever bonded was watching. Get a life together. That was it. That was my father's birthday by the way fucking shot the man. Happy Birthday and to Hacksaw Jim Duggan. It's just really. Can't we? Just have that. Can we make that a thing? He just let that of the bag. That's your dad. That's my dad. So rich we'RE CHILDHOOD. Explains why you have lots of extra money cash floating around ceiling tiles fine but that just reminded me of what I think is in my top five favourite. Tv moments which is when they had. Larry Bud Melman greeting people at Penn station. I actually explains a lot as to why I enjoy on so much. Share is accent affliction was. That's exactly in in. He would put Larry Bud Melman in situations that we want to put onto the but a moment we understand. You've signed with the Canadian football league. We WanNA video or Sunday signs and we we know a sportscaster and really we win. We understand that you've signed the Canadian football league and not think it's funny but I think I I will like my side hurts just from fucking laughing about it like like you have like people like lined up like the the the dufy looking. I would be like obviously like the GM the owner like and then shunned ub like the player. And then you have the guy who looks like the coat young up and coming coach and then they would interview everybody and then it'll be shunned duty but gender. You won't be wearing a suit who just feel like dress to A. He always is car hearts. Yeah and it was right now. I don't know a lot about the foul. You say something like that and I would just lose it but it would be like it'd be like the real sea lions like logo and everything and it would be like mazing. My understanding is that is Chris Elliott stuff. God just showed a greeting people at fucking. The conchords be so fun. The small or people getting off the bus port authority. It's like what it's like. One thousand nine hundred to like the the transmission is so fucking bad. It's ridiculous God. They can't even hear each other. Oh yeah no it's. It's just Larry just being him he's trying to be funny eight. Just it kills me. It's so good. Oh and it would be like Larry Bowa moment of the Port Authority. Yes without a doubt is the most exciting city entire. Let them needs to be great. So deadpan points of the compass. This is such bullshit. He's saying right now. Some people come here for fun. Some people come here for businesses. Come here to start a brand new life and we thought that why not have some sort of official spokesperson or greeter. He's fine folks as they get off their bus. So what we? The crowd thirty people to the children audience can street and Eighth Avenue and he's standing by right now. Can we go to Larry at the Port Authority Bus Depot? There is the well. They're all. The happy changed so bad. Oh my God. He's so good cop with them because those are really rough plays. There's Larry with the banner that says Nelken but but can you hear me the Atmosphere there at the authorities screen hoping. Yeah what what was the most recent bus arrival Larry? We haven't had any yet but we have to drive. Buster how is it? You have no buses arriving. You have a driver. Oh my God. Crying is so good at the. I'm sorry I didn't last night just a second way. Don't Webster Hartford Connecticut. And how is the trip? That's Nice took the harbor. What color up hope? And what's the best part of your job? Do you got a lot of celebrities please. Then you just hold onto it. Very this explains a lot of this. Was just what you would find on television when we were younger. Explains how weird. We are our sense of humor where another that nobody else gets. The we'll be talking and people just look at it. It's like a passenger finally on Seti Lady Virginia. Oh do you have any questions? You have a snack people. Losing their shit is so good she goes away another out of control on the eastern shore. Murrow full it's wonderful. Wonderful Fits Larry. Can you hear me now? I can hear you? Okay do you know. Do you know when the next bus is arriving in from whereas is it coming next spots coming coming in from Philly? He said it could be coming in from Philly. Our great all right. Now you'll be standing by throughout the evening to keep. This is genius way. You're doing a fine job. We're going include the link to this notes the show notes and I'll share it as well. Twitter this is if you have any idea of where or why. We have the sense of humor we do. It's probably being very little kids. Watch yeah and just thinking. This is funny and good like summer. I remember my parents would fall asleep and I would stay up and watch this. It'd be like already over on. That was how I that was how I got into Downey Channel Nine. Oh man the mom and dad go to bed. Richard Bay people are talking. That's wonderful and where are you from and from New Jersey? Now do you have any questions? No I don't have any questions about. Did you have a snack on the buck now? I didn't have a hot towel. Get through towel. Larry woman what she does for a living. He wants to dance instructor instructor. I well what is she doing in New York? I'm going to class to learn kinesiology. How to prevent injuries dancers? And if they get injured how to rehabilitate them. I don't WanNa be a sort of a communications problem. Larry History Behind the Port Authority stands at one time. All pasture land used to bring down head of pick ferries for Sunday. Believe that all of life can be likened to a bus terminal. I don't know why exactly it's just something. I believe that on good at party or should I say heart. Good wait a minute. Wild woman holding a baby. Aw Oh man. Poke that baby. The woman the woman holding a sleeping baby. No Baxter served. Which he's wearing a sash though says welcome. Oh my God whichever region reenact. Yeah this guy's great asked. Where is this man from Philadelphia Philadelphia? What's he doing? Yeah we're GONNA movie as working in his arm. Implants either real people. Sweet Georgia ramp is closed. Go ahead and give him the hot towel. Larry now what What kind of things have people ask you about their Potential stay in New York City. Watch if you want to go here but seriously this time kicked out to me other papal. I'd say getting yelled at by a producer in the air. Wrap it up and he. So He's like Oh man. A ferrets end destroy nothing changes in New York. Wow really good the best holy Shit. Sorry about that guys diverted a little bit so yeah but if you don't think that's funny then I don't know what to tell you Well it's we're at the hour mark with witching hour you WanNa do Would we shoot? Who DO QUESTIONS I? I put out the astronaut. The call for questions. I haven't opened the the thing days. My God thing easy question to answer here is semi charmed life by third eye blind Adams deck music. Yes of course yes. Of course little pather resistance. Could they use a few more singers? I think so actually. I think there's a few that were left out straight edge straight edge IRA band. I don't remember them. Yeah they're great now they just they just hope the IRA that's cool. 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Yeah like send them Can Andrew confirmed that people are being lit on fire in China for having the virus I know I can't confirm that I'm thankfully not there but I have seen footage of some pretty wild things. I didn't put up the worst videos. I had of the corona virus. Because I think he's really. It's rude to put something really hideous up on instagram stories. And have somebody just be like a at their job and just have five minutes to get on the Internet and see what's going on and I did see one. Where guy brings his dog to be killed by a group of men because it was more than dog was in corona virus which is really hard to watch the dogs. Yeah yeah it's a fuck unseen. I don't know if you saw the news today but there's now a paper that's been worked on by two different universities and hospital. That are all in agreement that it seems very likely to. This was human made or Otherwise it's like human gene edited and accidentally released. Which as I said on instagram. We'll if that's true this we're looking at the biggest self own in human history on real good plan also. I don't think this is. This is still like all speculative but there's speculation that the death rate not be two percent of maybe closer to twenty percents or sixteen percents Because the deaths and recovery's are lagging way longer than the the standard Whatever it stand standard algorithm does for Kathleen death rates? So Yeah Man I dunno strap in I mean maybe just have like Like a can of Like the Thanksgiving cranberry sauce stashed away somewhere. In case in case you need it. China has always been into population control. That's been China's bag. Yeah my really over the top right now. They used to have a limit on how many kids you can make which I think is great and also but now. I think it's like well. We still need to stop all of these people from being around so fantastic fucking job that now. 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The nose and his relationship is going nowhere but he's too chicken shit to break up tired of that. Shit Man Yeah tired. Who's a full to do her dirty work whenever she you know? It's like a girl at the bar who runs through all runs through her stable all busy. So you're you're like the bottom of the list are thirty a m you up. You're not you're not like eleven thirty guy. You're a one one thirty. Yeah exactly. You're a Tuesday guy. You're not a Friday guy. That's your deal socks too but you know what's the fucking pull up your pants and get back out there. Suffering Song about it stopped doing. Stand up God dammit. You're not funny miserable when people don't laugh at your jokes don't yell. It's the worst I was trying to have. I was sitting on a bar to have a beer by myself. And people are doing stand up and it was worse because this guy was bombing and then he started yelling and people started laughing. Because they're nervous. That's the worst that only works with Robin Williams. 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Language vs. Dialect

Lexicon Valley

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Language vs. Dialect

"The following podcast contains explicit language from new york city. This is lexicon conduct a podcast about language. I'm john mccain order and our topic. This time is going to be something that i've always assumed. I didn't episode assode about but apparently i haven't. It's something that i think any of you who like this podcast would like to know and probably need to know. We need to explore floor. The whole concept of dialect people often ask what is the difference between a language and a dialect and it's a very messy question question to which there really is no answer. It's one of those things nevertheless we all have certain folk conceptions of what distinguishes a language from a dialect including linguists linguists. I certainly have a sense of what a dialect is as opposed to a language despite that i know formally that the whole question is ultimately meaningless but from what we're taught the world has a whole bunch of languages and then also a whole bunch of dialects and we have a sense that there are dialects of a language but where do you draw the line what are talking about. What is the technical truth. This episode of lexicon valley is sponsored by how to raise a parent a new podcast from dairy peer collaboration with slate studios dairy pure believe that the world will be a better place if we reconnected to what's pure and innocent and ourselves and and each other that's what host mallory cast and explores in how to raise a parent throughout the series she talks to parents and experts about how our kids can teach us to shift our perspectives conquer our fears and become more open to all the exciting things the world has to offer make sure to listen and subscribe to how to raise a parent wherever you get your podcasts <music> what we're gonna do is. We're going to look at some of these folk. Conceptions these kind of intuitive ways of looking at it and we're going to see that those don't quite work. We're gonna fly around the issue and then zero in and then we're going to face ourselves els and what we're always gonna think nevertheless including linguists but let's start with this. You might suppose this. Is something that you may have learned or maybe something you into it. That dialects are varieties of a language that a language comes in a bunch of dialects and and that as long as people who are speaking these dialects can understand each other if these dialects are mutually intelligible as we say then they are dialects the language and the language consists of all those dialects together. That seems to make a certain sense you figure with english. There's you you know old brooklyn. There is black english. There's cockney english australian english but all those people can have a conversation and all of it constitutes shoots a grand category called english and you might even know that there's a standard dialect and that it's only standard because of historical accidents but still it's one of many dilates as stressed on the show well the problem with that idea that you can distinguish languages as bundles of dialects is that that's not how speech varieties are distributed in the world as it actually is and in fact. It's a little bit american understandable undoable but american to think of dialects in that way because here in this country there really aren't many kinds of english that would strain our understanding understanding in a really serious especially after we settle down and got used to it. We feel like well. There's a way that people talk in new york in a way that people talk in california in a way that people people often talk if they're black or they're white southerners but all of it seems to be variations on the same thing and so we think there's this thing called english and then when you step away from english you have something completely different and so that's a completely different language now that makes sense from english to an extent especially if you're only thinking about american english will get across the pond in a bit but for example the closest language to english is one that a lot of us have never heard of cold freezing the germanic languages over in europe come in a range of varieties and one of the ones that we don't hear very much about is called fresian and that that is the closest language to english but frankly for us if we hear freezing. We don't hear anything that sounds anything like our language unless we really strain so so for example. Let's hear some this is somebody in the netherlands where one strain of friesen is spoken and she's speaking you know at normal pace this this is clear audio this language in the world that's closest to english and see if you can get a shock you grave flaw as lon- professor navy long and a free swan proud of a freeze <hes> africa awesome and who showed me for the promotion risk italian kalina brace with the house patially share valley yeah so for example if you know some german and some dutch and you listen closely than mike if you could play it again what i can get something like good something something. She says her name engraved floor. I'm in friesland live long northern part of the netherlands e flow salal throughout the freeze in friesland. We speak reason <hes> i work at the does because he says fuck that could not possibly mean what sounds like but i draw a blank and sent me for the promotion the risk of drought and to shooting here at something about a bookshop that promotes freezing but see that's the best i can do and that's because i've got kind of a head start. Clearly freezing is a different language from english and so you can think that it just stops there but the problem is really. There's a whole lot more blur around around the edges of whatever you're thinking of as a language in terms of how real things go so even with english especially if we go over there think about something like scott's scots may strike many people as a kind of english you could say that but then many scots consider scotts separate language and that makes sense too because listen here to some scots once again this is spoken at normal speed need. It's quite clear and listen how with this man. It's kind of like a radio station. That isn't quite tuned in listen to what he's saying. Note how you keep falling falling into the gutter. My name is dover hospital language and information officer at the same time for the scots lead and path. I would like to caboose the skorts lead an acceptable historical speeding's firstly what escorts and modern scotland shortland scorza name for the buy leads gathered together and this can be the other names adult basic lands scorched for by and going back. What did you make dorothy better. Ken a mayor hema boot neom soco's bought does buchan dudin glasgow shetland to name a queen gene see when gather together the scots by leaps cried the scots lead so lead is language kent is known and hear listen to what he says here and going beyond what you might already better kane a mayor hema boot neom soco's has brought us dominion glasgow shetland. That's you might already know a home about name such as <unk> to name a queen and he says to name a helene. What's a win. That's a few to name. It spelt w. h. E. e. n. So is this english notice that there's no slang here. We're not talking about the whole trainspotting thing. This is just he's talking. Saying some neutral stuff is that english it's hard for us and imagine if he was talking faster on about spicy or things is that english now it's clearly not as different from english as frisian but it kind donald straddles the line or for example jamaican patois and that name patois makes it sounds so trivial but jamaican patois even if you're not using slang even if you're not saying many things that are particularly jamaican. Jamaican patois is thought of as english by speakers here's but goodness can it strain the ear in terms of trying to understand of somebody who didn't grow up with it so for example. Here's a woman telling very sweet story in what she thinks is english because it is except why in terms of what english is most of us in america here on a regular basis. This is really something that strains the definition of what we would think of as say the language that i'm speaking right now. See 'em tom militias matimba. I may have why key wrote that's same time i lost my temper and i holler him. Tunnel liking stunted then here. You're he turned up like he was stunted then hear him now. I think that's what she's saying. Jamaicans a phone messing that up i apologize to make an is not my creole creole of specialty. I just play a specialist in jamaican on tv sweet. Jamaican drug use v up what happened happen to those. Jamaican jokes used to pop so i can tell you what this woman is saying because i had strained to make it out but jamaican patois. That's what is a very different kind of english to the point that if somebody says it's its own language and there are people who do say that you can hardly say that they are mistaken taken. I remember the first time i heard jamaican patois. It was a sunny day in one thousand nine hundred five and i heard a couple of gentlemen talking and they were speaking in normal pace pace and the audio was great because real life and the only word i could make out with television and i was so stunned. I had never happened to hear jamaican patois till this day which was actually my last day of college i went back and i listened again because i had never heard something that was english but it wasn't and i actually asked what are you speaking and they looked at me kind of funny and now i know why because they were thinking we're speaking english but one of them said we're speaking jamaican and i thought wow how what an interesting thing. It was kind of the beginning of what became a career but what this means is that saying that a language is a bundle of dialects mutually intelligible. It doesn't work because intelligibility is kline. Oh it's a continuum and the reason for this client -ality in this business of mutually mutually intelligible dialects and where one language leaves off in another one begins is because what this is all about is our friend language change and what that means is that it is inherent to human speech varieties to change just like cloud patterns always change. There's no such thing as a language that just stays the same and so for example these days more and more americans say i caught a fish instead of i caught a fish. They talk about a hawk flying in the sky rather than a hawk flying in the sky and so the all sound is becoming off it just is because those two sounds or next to each other in the mouth. It's drift. It used to be marginal now. It's becoming a majority. It is a majority of americans under a certain age. That's happening sounds change or something like author becomes <hes> too and so it's not thought but taught things like that those things happening throughout a language imagine that happening to all all the sounds and then imagine new expressions come in you start using new words the definitions of words change this kind of creeps along a lot of this stuff is a matter of chance and so you're all sound is going to become are in one case but if you roll the dice again the all sound could become o to that can happen in language as well and so you've got these different rolls the dice if people are separated if you have one community of people here and another community of people there then those changes are going to differ in the two places and if thousands of years go by those changes keep on creating well then those those two speech varieties that once were the same thing are going to be different languages now. Let's say five hundred years go by that. Much change hasn't happened yet but they're different enough that you might think of them as dialects but the point is obviously this isn't like protons and neutrons and whole numbers. It's not a matter of integer others and frets like on the guitar. This is all continuous and so it could be that enough. Change has taken place that people can still understand each other it could be that so much much changes taking place that people have no idea what each other saying you've got english and freezing or could be somewhere in between and you never know what's going to happen so that means that sang saying that dialects are mutually intelligible varieties of a thing called a language ends up not corresponding how reality actually works this episode of lexicon valley sponsored by hyatt centric tune into somewhere new with high at centric hotels hotels that put you at the heart of the action connecting acting you to your cities food culture and of course music from miami to milan and everywhere in between high at centric hotels point you toward the hidden gems hotspots and and local sounds your destination has to offer enjoy choice amenities and playful details uniquely capture that spirit of each city helping you get a feel for the neighborhood before leaving set foot out the door. If you're ready for an exciting off the beaten path adventure get started with high at centric. When you start here you can discover well everywhere explorer hotels around the world at hyatt centric dot com and then there's this you can the hat speech varieties that exist on a continuum such that you really have no way of saying what's language and what's a dialect so for example all some languages that you may never hear of again after this. I don't even know what to call them. Are the garage languages or dialects dialects or maybe that's one thing called garage the varieties whatever and the reason i'm saying it that way is that they are indigenous varieties of language. Yes they are semitic languages actually and what happens is that one of them shades into other so so do for he thatched roof is could dunham got for heath. Thatched roof is cut dunham. Okay move a little over and you've got moore and in nat variety. It's not cut them but hud dunham okay. That's a little difference then in other next door it's hut though room and so instead of how the numb durham so we started out with cut dunham now hud durham then in charge it isn't hut durham <unk> but just huddle room that sounds different to them hunt them than harlem then and gaito. It's hutter and you've lost that <hes> so from hud them to hup dot have teeth came in instead of the d. then in again. It's not it's hutter now. We've gone bit by bit by bit by a bit but that means that in sodo it's cut dunham in undone it's upto so soto and onion feel like different languages. But how do you decide aside what all that stuff in between is are they dialects of so dr dialects of and again well. You can't really say and that kind of continuum is the way languages really work for example. If you're talking about language on the ground not what happened to become the standard languages and and get to be the doggie in the shop window just languages spoken by ordinary people especially long before print literacy tended to mess all of this up and eat up all of the interesting indigenous varieties. The way europe was for example is that there's something we know of his portuguese. There are many dialects of it and as you move east portuguese become spanish there are dialects that are in between portuguese and spanish kind of up or something like that so that's what you have many of you. Probably we know there's a romance language called catalan and catalan is kind of like a love child of french and spanish french and spanish had sex and produced a child oiled and it's this beautiful child. That's cowan. Catalan is like that so many of the languages of southern france such as provence saw all and there are a whole bunch of like that that are like french and spanish had an affair french and spanish just happened to be the ones that wound up as the standards really you just have this kind of continuum and move along with those love children and you wind up in out send in the piedmont up up in upper italy and you have these varieties that are called dialects of italian but what they really seem like is french and italian had sex and they're really not anything like like the italian that we learn in school which is just one kind of italian then you have a bunch of dialects that are a lot like that and then you move down to southern italy and sicilian is really really a completely different language and you've got these languages in switzerland that seemed kind of like italian dropped acid and that's because they're just different kinds signs of italian but they're not called that because they aren't italian linguists call them the radio romance varieties and there are a whole bunch of them and they practically differ from village village developed that is how language is really pattern so what's a language. What's a dialect really it's about how people speak in relatively small communities from place to place and varies a bit as you move along. That's what language is really like and it actually does house. Remind me of a song called. That's how it goes. This is from a musical of a tree grows in brooklyn. If any of you like that book look or if any of you like the movie you'll like the musical too great score. I recommend downloading it. It sounds like a poor man's carousel and how bad could that be and this is chorus song in it called. That's how it goes where they talk about clothes and how you laughing. I'm crying. I'm living. I'm diana m. That's how it goes well. That's true of how real language language varieties work. It's all very down home the only <music> aw <music> it and then there's a problem with just the names so these things don't think that what things are called in terms of language and dialect is gonna help us in getting a sense of how this sort of thing actually works and so for for example. This is gonna be so random. There was an early talkie musical revue. Don't worry. I'm not gonna play anything from it. It was called old paramount on parade now. Paramount on parade was all these skits and songs and it was emceed now believe it or not there were about a dozen versions of this distributed around the world where they would splice and n._c. From the place to bring on all the skits and songs and maybe do a couple all of songs themselves okay so paramount on parade had international versions now. If you saw paramount on parade in sweden sweden norway or denmark then you saw angst rolf and his wife took i imagine only people of a certain age over at scandanavia gonna know who those people were but they were quite a big deal at the time aunts rolf and tuta rolf. They emceed it now. I was swedish. Tuta was norwegian and they did the introductions and they did some numbers themselves now. Here's the thing swedish swedish and norwegian and danish are presented to us as different languages are spoken in different countries but if so then how come in all three of those countries freeze when you sat through paramount on parade you had an m. c. that was speaking swedish and then a wife who speaking norwegian well the reason it is because swedish norwegian and danish are mutually intelligible daynuss kind of stretches it but still especially if you look at them on the page they they are really what we think of as the same language. They're variations on a theme. I have seen a swede a norwegian and dane smoking in a dorm lounge having a conversation and they were not speaking english they were using their varieties and and making it work so what that means is is that even though we're taught in the berlitz sense that those are different languages really if you are swedish and you move to norway you don't take norwegian lessons. You just kind of adjust. That's that's how close these quote unquote languages. Are you know i lied. I'm going to play something from paramount on parade. I'm gonna play something from the swedish version. Don't you want to hear a little bit of ernst rolf and tutorials. They were actually kind of cute in a bizarre makes you want to hurt yourself way. Listen due to their little song. Which is your naga nting which means do something here. They are not just a little. Don't wanna hear this. I do so here. It is in august. I know eh in chadwick from you know look this ahrens. Ernst rolf played dharthi in an all male production of the wizard of oz in swedish. One should no such thing such be power uh of the common core but in any case that means that often what is called a language is often most of us would think of as variations on same thing then there is another extreme which is that many of you heard that there's mandarin chinese and then there's the cantonese dialect there. Here's the taiwanese dialect well. If these are dialects of one thing then boy does that stretch our sense of what mutual intelligibility is has given that these dialects aren't mutually intelligible at all so for example. I'm going to just take something out of the air. Mandarin the word for i as in me and myself will okay in cantonese. That's more more now. I know that sounds horrible folks but you know i i'm i'm not cantonese mandarin walk and then cantonese more dialect and you might think well they sound kind of alike but how how about something like in mandarin he she it top just top in cantonese. It's roughly. I i always self-conscious trying to pronounce cantonese but it's basically that's he. She k. so top versus. K. are those dialects of the same language. No and i'm not exaggerating. I'm not picking things to make. The point seem brighter than it is. Mandarin and cantonese are certainly as different as really spanish and italian and i would say even more they're called dialects because they they are written with the same system and because they're spoken in the same country but there is no chinese language in that sense or even take freezing. This is apparently the freezing show f- region is really three different languages. There's west frisian which is spoken in the netherlands. That's what we heard a bit of but then there are two varieties are spoken in germany and some people think of these three as dilates the same language but they're not mutually intelligible. I made out some of that west frisian. 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Post terms and conditions apply one more thing that we might think you see this in the media a lot and i think a lot of us have internalized this is it that if something is written and standardize standardized it's a language and then if it isn't written in standard is in its oral then it's a dialect sat the idea and is it true through that and this is something that i think tends to come along with that notion whether we're aware of it or not is the idea that the speech variety that's oral and unwritten not not standardize is less sophisticated that there's less to it that re- languages written that's kind of the bush that's been trimmed and fed and then in languages that haven't gotten that kind of treatment or just fucking around all over the place. It's easy to think that but really that doesn't work either. The idea that dialects dialects are oral and therefore less sophisticated and the real thing is that which is written down in some ways is the opposite so for example the foreign service service institute ranks languages as easier or harder to learn from english and among their hardest are for example finnish. Nash georgian not atlanta georgia georgia to be lazy georgia hungarian mongolian thai and vietnamese. He's okay those are what they call hard but to tell you the truth almost any native american language almost any australian aboriginal language. Most of the languages of africa are all harder from english than particularly finnish hungarian and mongolian and they could definitely give thai-vietnamese and even in georgia in a run for their money so for example georgian it spoken in the caucasus. Another language spoken in the caucasus called archie archie is spoken by only about twelve hundred people and it's not written in any real way and you might think oh well. That's just some dialect but no no not really archie is fascinating -ly intricate. There are one million five hundred and two thousand eight hundred hundred thirty nine different forms that verb can take one million five hundred two thousand eight hundred and thirty nine. That's a thousand times more forms than the number of people who even speak the language so there you go or often you see an urban rural divide where the rural quote unquote dialect i elect as opposed to the quote unquote language in the city is actually more complicated so for example flemish and here. We have the whole issue again in that. I feel guilty saying flemish. I'm going to get killed for this but flemish is kind of dutch you move down into belgium and there are dutch varieties in in belgium. They're called old flemish now. Some people would say flemish is at different language because we're talking about nationhood hung about culture. We're talking about history. Where do you draw the line either literally ed or figuratively but in any case if we're talking about flemish there are many varieties a flemish and in some rural varieties yes gets delightfully fully complicated suppose somebody says do you have a lamp and you say yes. You would say your kid. That doesn't seem terribly interesting but what suppose somebody asks you and your spouse do you to have a lamp and you say yes. You wouldn't say yuck. You'd say yom because if you are are we not yuck only say yuck. If you're an i if you ask does peter peter does peter have a lamp and then somebody he says yes. You wouldn't say yawkey say mom. You have to say yacht yes he does. That's how it works. In this quote unquote primitive rural dialects so uriel weinreich the great linguist yiddish just at cetera once said it's a perfect line. A language is a dialect with an army and a navy. His idea was that really dialects called languages when they happen to become the vehicle of the powerful and you could also take it from how he he puts that that really all there are is dialects or all there are is a certain one kind of thing and the ones that get called language just happen to get called that because of their history but still we do use the terms language and dialect and we're going to keep using them and so i'll give you a thumbnail nail sense of for example how a linguist thinks of these things speech varieties differ from one another they differ from one another to various degrees and in various ways and at a certain point you can have a thumbnail sense that you're dealing with a different language rather than a dialect but what do we mean well not slang so often we kind of jokingly say that people are using so much slang that coming a different language but no not not really slang thing is more about style so if somebody refers to their parents as the rent's or if somebody now turned thick of some slang blank is if i don't use any somebody refers to hitting on people as mcing on them or something like that. That's a different kind of vocabulary larry sure but you wouldn't say that all the time. You're striking certain kind of in group note. When you use slang you also use the other words you use the normal the formal words but their cases where speech varieties differ where they really do have serious and non non stylistic vocabulary differences so for example standard arabic the word for knows is off in egypt arabic the word for noses monarchy completely different now mahwah here doesn't mean like snoot or schnauzer solar or something like that it means knows it's the word for nose so these are two kinds aerobic but with completely different words for very basic things like noses and so for example if you see in the standard but in egypt sharon you say schaaf was completely different. Words and schoff doesn't mean to get a peep at or something like that. It means to see so completely different different words so that's where speech fridays can start peeling away from each other then you start dealing with the sound system and so one person says go but then another variety people say go or in one speech variety people say mother and another speech variety people say mother or something like that that sort of difference in sound system we often call that an accent that is another part of how speech varieties will differ it might be the they're just different words but then there might be a different sound system and then you really get to some difference when the grammar starts being different and that is where you start thinking of there being a different dialect now the media can really mess this up and so for example during the big controversy controversy way way back now in nineteen ninety six and seven over the oakland school board's proposal of using black english as a teaching tool the the media never quite understood that when we talk about black english we don't just mean slang so if somebody says i don't know if people say this now but said jet to the easy meaning meaning to go home. That's not what people meant by. What black english in the classroom was considered necessary so for example here is a clip from one of the innumerable news stories supposedly covering a botox back then where you get a cute kid saying something cute but it has nothing to do with real eli differences in vanilla vocabulary as opposed to slang or accent or grammar so here's the kid is english second language to some blacks in america america easy to what the heck does that mean. I had a party at my house and it was fun as opposed to for for example black english used for real in the wire so for example here is just an ordinary seen. This is omar omar and proposition joe and they're having a conversation so see oh my like simple savvy. Don't what do your sister's boy. He do the drop. We call you give up the spud god simple enough as it is seen now joe at me judy resist natural inclination to do anything twisted up in this plea fleet. You fill me with you doing some foul joe me go to marlow. You put up on their car game now notice. There's an accent issue. When joe says is that simple enough actually dat simple enough. You would know even if you couldn't see it that the person who said that's simple enough was black. We admit it. We've talked on this show about how there is a such thing as a black sun. It's just that there is a different sound system in black english so listen to him say this. It's simple enough or grammar. So omar says you to put me up on that khan game. Not you are the one who put me a whole whole different set of grammatical rules in black english and it's not all about leaving things out. Listen back to a couple of shows. I did about black english on that but in this case you can can leave out the verb to be under certain conditions. It's actually oddly complicated that you one and then you the one who put me up it's u._2. One put me up on that con game different grammar. That's why we think of black english as a different dialect from standard english so that's something that even a linguist thinks about how the dialect is kind of different and then the language is completely different and we think of it as a nested business first vocabulary than it might light vocabulary and accent than it might be vocabulary accent and grammar but that informal kind of back of the envelope nope sense of it doesn't help us when we're trying to figure out for example where german and dutch begins really it's not that where that line is between the netherlands and germany if you're on one side of the line people speaking dutch and if you're on the other side of the line people are speaking german in the country really you have kind of uh-huh which is the way it works and their various varieties where you really couldn't quite decide what it was really kind of like a dermott and that's just the way it is. How do you know where to draw the line. You really can't you can draw it on the map but that's all it is to have that back of envelope. Sense of things doesn't tell us why. Norwegian is supposedly a different language from swedish. It doesn't tell us why we call an obscure native american language a dialect while we call spanish banish a language really dialects are all there is or a linguist might say speech varieties is all there is and really the idea that unwritten speeches dialects that needs to go and always remember that the way the map looks and what it implies about how languages work is completely misleading that is not the real shit on the ground. You know what i know that one in maybe fifty of you is still bill thinking about those scandinavians singing that song and you might wanna know little of what they're saying and i asked a swede and so just to let you non play a little of it again what they're saying is the moon is shining and the stars twinkling all the same. I'm sitting here and thank you just make he can move. Just make them. It's so hard to keep from going crazy. When you're hartfield blissful swinton hazing just make a move just knoop. That's a cute little song. That's my translation by the way i tried to make it rhyme because it does rhyme in swedish by the way if you stay tuned for the slate plus us segment which you can only here by subscribing to slate plus and paying just a little bit of money and therefore not having to listen to any ads and this helps pay for not only my show but all the other frankly better shows that slate does then you will hear about more creole whole language so you don't have to be satisfied with just giving a little hint of jamaican patois. There'll be more but you can only hear it if you subscribe to slate plus today. No we're not going to go out on your no continue. We're going to go out on something better. Jack norman has asked me to play some dan specifically the new frontier. This is from donald fagan's glorious night fly album. The video for this is exquisite. It's got animation and fear sure and sex the video alone. I recommend it but the song itself is deathly smart. Yes it's got the synthesizers. It was time but i love love this song. In any case you can reach us at lexicon valley at slate dot com. That's what's the con valley had sleep dot com to listen to past shows and subscribe or just to reach out now go to sleep dot com slash lexicon. Mike vullo is always the editor and i'm john quarter by the way no-one. No one listened should dig up paramount on parade. Don't watch it. Life is worth. I've already done it for you. Don't they just brought continues. What if abby was an investigative reporter. I'm charles doing the author of the power of habits and host of a new slate podcast. How we answer your toughest questions. Like how do i fire about employees or do i donate a kidney to my mom or tell the perfect joke or how do i rob a bank. 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11-26-20  Nicole Sandler Special Thanksgiving Musical Gratitude Show

The Nicole Sandler Show

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11-26-20 Nicole Sandler Special Thanksgiving Musical Gratitude Show

"The following program contains graphic material including offensive language. Viewer discretion advised. Jeez got the news. She talks with news makers she encourages us to laugh and she cries with us speaking truth to power and questioning authority daily. It's the nicole sandler. Show happy thanksgiving everyone. It is a special thanksgiving music. Addition of the nicole sandler show on this thursday november. Twenty six twenty twenty. I know it's twenty twenty. What a year but we still have much to be grateful for most notably getting the orange thing out of the white house. So we're going to embark on a bit of a musical journey today of songs of gratitude but will start with a moment of pop culture that you can't forget when it's thanksgiving. I hear something that is willing attitude. Explain something says s w dilemma. What a citation searching the area now. I know somebody just came out of the helicopter. Skydiver two thousand interesting. Think we you push each other news china just tune danny pinedale shopping mall has just been bombed with fellow should've worked. He was the most unusual promotion idea. I heels liked joe sponsor. Has i thought it would work. This thing. right down to the last detail was perfect for you okay. I don't know. Two children tried to pursue the pavement scattered. But some of them trying to attack me. Jim myself into a phone booth. Mr carlson had the helicopter land in the middle of the parking lot. I guess he thought he could save the day by turning the rest of the turkey loose. It's pretty strange after that. Come on now tells the register. I really don't know how to describe it. Turkeys mounted a counterattack was almost as if they were organized. God is my with. I thought turkeys could fly one of the best pop. Culture moments thanksgiving moments in american history. Let's the music going with the ray davies of the kinks. I know his british but he can still sing about thanksgiving. Happy thanksgiving nicole. Sandler show only do those fannies. Said knowledge gathered being of january a long. Aw burn fat. Use these wives still always Talk doesn't off sure Stop sits strange from those distant bridge soon said been through this old davie yes up the kings come on over. Its thanksgiving day but figuratively speaking k. Let's keep it going with bonnie. Sweet safe turn On show time brings town. I tech wow think back insane off. Saturday voice does and test a fly and the family stone. Thank you serious long. i mean it. We're going to keep it going up. Next is an artist that you probably haven't heard of but he's great and the song is perfect for the occasion. His name is francis. Done arri and the song is grateful and thankful who hide all saddam legislation. Take some time cal diseases and on a solve undo ambler where all of look into the Bird myself off. Great ham with all legislation would die. Oh god house off now. Real into excrete. That's so good. His name is francis. Don ary from the album tall blonde helicopter. That's called grateful. And thankful on this thanksgiving francis. Donna reason artists. That maybe you don't know about. He's somebody that. I got to know when i worked in music radio in los angeles in the in the late ninety s. And if you heard that guitar playing and thought that's pretty good he is. He's he's a master guitarist. In fact he went on tour with robert plant as his guitar player. So he'd played all the the jimmy page parts of the led zeppelin songs so he's got the goods. Yeah check them out. France has done ary alright. We heard sly and family stone before that bonnie rates rendition of i thank you a song originally done by sam and dave right also covered by z. z. Top and countless others. But i thought we'd we'd have bonnie rates version and we started it with thanksgiving day from davies. I'm nicole sandler. Welcome to a special thanksgiving day decision. A music show for thanksgiving songs of gratitude. So we'll keep going with one that you can probably sing along with the beatles governor blue hallway I'm on my window docking. Good go ahead. That is not so join too much. My head does listen stop the hell to and and then you call now so bad jazz okay. Then you had asthma. Haswell's just do stretches back and please my own. I want to say thank you you now. Three food is stream. Oh she shing shing on. That's world party. A the most underappreciated band out there. It's actually carl. He's he is world party. That's from the album goodbye jumbo thank you world. We are daito before that with thank you and thank you girl courtesy of the beatles. I'm nicole sandler. Thanks for spending your thanksgiving with me or better yet allowing me to provide the soundtrack for an hour of your thanksgiving anyway coming up. I promise we will get to arlo. Guthrie and the thanksgiving necessity alice's restaurant will get it all in this hour so stick around but we'll keep the music going. The songs of gratitude with natalie merchant from the album of failure. This one's kind generous At fact if thanks you keep on game fish just and thank you looks jackson. Hey trump fought for finding you got my buddy longtime friend. The lovely nicole sandler this donald fagan and this walter becker. You know steely dan. And you're listening to nicole fe. Jake selector john. Munson dan wilson. We are semi sound. You're listening to the call sandler. Hi this is melissa ethridge. And you're listening to my friend. This is nicole sandler. Everybody was his hand the band train. And you're listening to nicole sandler. My favorite on air personality nicole sandler show music news Sun refuses to shine. Still be loving on my own terms crumble to the sea stupi Now me a and so today my world. It's a your hand in my we. Walk the my thanks to you. It will be for you if the some with few too shy would still be loving. You come see Thank you led zeppelin on a special thanksgiving day songs of gratitude. Show now being the professional disc jockey that i am. I can't this. Song is frustrating led zeppelin obviously because it fades out here but then it comes back in and the music purists. Get mad if you don't wait around for it to come back in here. See now comes back all right for the big final chord. We heard natalie merchant from ten thousand maniacs. Doing kind and generous dig finish. Thank you led zeppelin all right. I promised you wouldn't be thanksgiving without arlo. Guthrie telling telling the story the alice's restaurant massa cre- happy thanksgiving everyone balances restaurant and the restaurant but alice's restaurant is not the name of the restaurant. That's just the name of the song. That's why called saw. Allison can get anything you want at alison's dress you can get anything you want restaurant bride and it's around the back. Just a half a mile from the railroad can get anything you want to all started to thanksgivings ago. Two years ago on thanksgiving when my friend and i went up to visit out. Let's to rest around but this doesn't live in the restaurant. She lives in church nearby. The restaurant in the bell dog living in the bell tower. I got a lot of room. There's the pews used to be and having all that room scene as how they took out all the views. They decided that they didn't have to take out their garbage for a long time. We got up. There were found all the garbage in and we decided it'd be a friendly gesture for taking the garbage down to the city down so we took the halftime garbage. Put it in the back of a red. Vw moniker. bus. Took shovels and rakes implemented laments distraction on toward the sit down. We got there and the big sun and it across the dump saying closed on thanksgiving. We had never heard of dump closed on thanksgiving before and with tears in our eyes with drove off into the sunset looking for another place where the garbage time doing game to a side road. Side of the road was another fifteen foot cliff and at the bottom of the cliff was another problem with garbage and we decided that one big balls better than two little piles and rather than bring that one up. We decided to throw down what we did drove back to the church out of thanksgiving dinner. That couldn't be beat. Went to sleep and didn't get up until the next morning when we got a home. Call from officer get found your name on on envelope at about a half a ton a garbage to know if you had any information about it and i said yes sir officer over cannot tell the line. I put that envelope bundle garbage after speaking of it for about forty five minutes on the telephone with finally arrived at the truth of the matter said we had to go down pick up the garbage and also had to go down and speak to him at the police station so we got in the red. Vw microbus with the shovels and rakes. Up his headed on toward the police officers stationed mouth. Friends there was only one of two things that'll be coulda done. At least asian and i was that he could give us a medal for bands of brave and honest on the telephone bush. One very lucky we didn't expect it and the thing was that it could evolve sound and told us never to be seen driving garbage around the senate again. Budges what we expected but when we got to the police officer station they were the third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon and we was both immediately arrested and said you don't think i can pick up the garbage wendy's handcuffs on shut up again. The back of the patrol car and has what did sat in the back of the patrol car and drove to the quote senior. The crime aren't about the town of stockbridge massachusetts. What is happening here. They got stop signs. Do police officers and one police car but when we got another crime there was five police. Ops there's three police cars. Being the biggest crime of the last fifty year then body wanted to get a newspaper story about it and they was using up all kinds of conflict with that. They had hanging around please their station. They was taking plaster tire. Track footprints dolled smell and brands and took twenty seventy five town. Color glossy photographs circles and hours and our paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against the approach getaway the northwest going on south west corner nasa not to mention the arrow time after the ordeal. We went back to the jail. Hobie said it was gonna put us in the cells that kid i'm going to put in a cell. I want you and your belt. I said okay. I can understand you want my wallet. So i don't have any money to spend in salvat. Why do you want him about foreign said. We don't want any hanging over. Did you think. I was going to hang myself illiterate. And that it was making sure and friends. Obie was because he took out the toilet seat so i couldn't get myself over the head and brown and it took out the toilet paper. I saw couldn't bend the bars. Roll out the role that on paper out the wind assigned down the road making sure and it was about four hours later remember. The song about allah came with a few nasty words to obie on. The side bailed out of jail. We went back to the church and none at thanksgiving dinner. That couldn't be beaten. Didn't get up until the next morning. When we all have voted core dance down. 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Nobody understood a word that is said we had fun. Filling out the forms and plane went to pencils on the bench there. I felt with four part harmony. Road it down there. Just knock get was and everything was fine but down. A penicillin turned over the piece of paper. And and they they're around the other side in the middle of the other side away from everything else on others do parentheses capital letter tainted the following. Words do rehabilitated. Yoursel to start in the said sergeant. You got a lot of them gone. Ask me if i've rehabilitated myself. Me i mean. I mean just sitting here on a bench mean. I'm sitting here on a group of your bench. Because you want to know if i'm moral enough to john may burn women kids houses and villages after didn't get online care con send you refrain brings off to washington for him somewhere in. Washington enshrined in some little folders. Study in black and white of my fingerprints and all the reason. I'm singing the song now. Goes you may know somebody in a similar situation or you may be in a similar situation and if you're in a situation like that there's only one thing you can do walk into the train wherever you are. Just walk in say shrink you again. Anything you were on. That atlases roused around and walk out one. I just one person does it. They may think israelis the sick and they won't take them and if two people do people do it and harmony thank both faggots won't take either and if three people we can you imagine three command. Cena bar allison's restaurant walking out more. They may think it's an organization and can you. Can you imagine fifty people have been the day walking in singing more alice's restaurant walking up and friends they may think it's a movement and that's what it is. The alice's restaurant in time massa create movements and all you gotta do to join the next time it comes around on guitar with feeling so well wait till it comes around on time here sing. It went here. 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Chuck Klosterman on How to Handle Criticism [Ep. 10]

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Chuck Klosterman on How to Handle Criticism [Ep. 10]

"Save twenty five years ago. You would sort of jokingly say or anecdotally say it's like <hes> you know. People are nuts. People are crazy out there. You just can't be but there was really no way of knowing that we just Kinda said that now there is this kind of clear record of it and it makes me wonder if the technology has sort of pushed people in this direction and it's you know it's actually there's a causal relationship between it or if it is just a reflection of that the reality of this has always been the case back to another episode of airplane mood. I'm your host Klay Skipper. This week's guest is chuck close German if you thought his name was pronounced Kostroman so did I it turns out that is the correct pronunciation which he very kindly points out to me at the top of the episode. Chuck is a writer and author and cultural critic. I'm sure you have come across one or many of his pieces. Over the past couple of decades he's written for a number of publications including place called G. Q.. He has written a number of books the most popular of which was probably his two two thousand three book sex drugs and Cocoa Postures just four whip smart essays about pop culture. He also has a new book out he just released a collection of stories. It's called raised in captivity and across all these publications and all these books chuck because proven himself to be not only deeply funny but deeply thoughtful about so many different things also because he's done so much criticism. I wanted to ask him how that has affected his ability. Having just released a new book to take the criticism he had some interesting and perhaps counterintuitive entertained thoughts about that he says you should read the comments which I will let him unpack why he says that because he gets into it on episode and says a lot of interesting things about that also wanted to ask him how he consumes media these days not just where he gets his information but how he stays informed without sort going nuts and also how he in the day and age of takes and think pieces is able to still create space to form his own opinion about these things. I hope you guys enjoyed this conversation with chuck close around Chuck Classroom unwelcomed airplane Mode Hey you might my name is pronounced close German. Though oh that is important I wouldn't tell you it wasn't a podcast. If you've ever called me that in person I would have never ever interrupted would you but for podcast and radio I feel like I should always tell people that know I appreciate. Does that happen a lot constantly. It looks like lobstermen. There's no logical reason you'd think it's closed Herman. There's no slots over it. I kind of wish in some ways that I had just went with quality German early in my career but my dad was always like don't do that. You're name's close German so now he's dead but I still do it okay. I love that all right. I'm glad you corrected me so chuck. Close German welcomed airplane mode. We're here talking about your new book crazy captivity fictional non fiction what why did you choose to go with fictional nonfiction. Well you know that's actually kind of an inside joke to myself because when you think about fictional non fiction what is that while fiction what if it was non-fictional channel fiction I would also be fiction like it's basically a way to avoid just putting stories at the bottom of the book. I now realize it's almost consciously confusing to people but oh well what can you do. How would you articulate the thread that sort of bail hang on the Holcim together if there is a larger meaning to the whole anthology which I guess one hopes that like a reader will get it is interpretive and kind of on the consumer a lot of these things have similar themes? A lot of the stories have similar themes very often it is old people under reacting to insane situations or overreacting to common situations. There's a lot about the dissidents between hard reality and constructed reality. I mean I could Kinda give of a real pedantic explanation of this but you know my goal when I'm writing them is that the stories are interesting and entertaining and clear those are the only three things I really care about. If the story is pleasant for the person to consume makes them think about anything anything in their life or outside of it and is clear enough that the text is very straightforward and any complexity comes from their perception of the subtext the story is successful. I read somewhere that these began as years of thoughts and made up conversation saved on your phone is that is absolutely true for five years I would do that anytime I would have like a weird idea or some kind of weird piece of conversation I would just write in you the notes App of my iphone and then they had hundreds and hundreds of these and then at one point I decided to turn these stories and my initial conception was that was going to hurt one hundred stories that were exactly a thousand words long that was the initial plan and I started doing that and started trying it but I and I mean for a variety of reasons. I realized that was idiotic and then the stories ended up just becoming the size they were supposed to be basically I would write a story week for fifty weeks camp about fifty stories and then published thirty four so came out on the sixteenth breath yeah. How much of the noise do you hear about? It's sort of reception the thing the thing I'm getting ultimately is as someone who has done criticism before written plenty of criticism in your life. Are you good at taking criticism. Or hearing criticism of your own book well okay when you ask that question when when someone is said. Are you good at taking criticism. What does it mean to be good at? It basically means like he don't care right. That's what everyone hopes to attain in some point that they have their work viewed by other people that doesn't matter at all. I pushed back a little bit. They're not interrupted just to say that now. Let's say that you don't care but that you can care and maybe still evaluate the feedback objectively objectively and integrate the parts that is actually constructive feedback well. I would disagree. I would say the best situation would be not to care at all. Okay I mean what would it do for me to integrate criticisms of this work. The book exists you know to the next look. Maybe I don't know how's that you can't you can't look at someone's reception to one book and be like okay now. I'm really gonNA build this into my consciousness for the next one. I mean that that would be very detrimental. I mean the thing is it is impossible not Q._B.. Somewhat affected by the way you work has received because you know if you're a writer or musician or filmmaker or visual artists whatever the case may be stand up comedian there is an aspect of this that demands man's some understanding that this is a received thing as much as an intended thing like I have an intention for what the book should be but the received message in matters just as much okay and I can't control the way something is received achieved so it doesn't really benefit me at all to consider that however of course I'm curious about it. You know I mean there are people in the publicity industry who will actually say like you know. All publicity is good publicity. I don't really believe that but from a commercial standpoint it probably is true because if you get like a really really good review in the New York Times Book Review It. Will you know help your sales for two weeks or three weeks. If you get a really really really negative one. It'll help your sales for one week a couple things inching. I is the idea of what you intend. The message to be is different from the way it's received because you have a story in the book blizzard of summer that is in some ways about that very process right in in terms of you have this band that puts out a hit song. What's the song called Blizzard of sever their summers okay they've been story and it becomes sort of CO opted by racists? Yes the idea of a song that has no racial racial meaning whatsoever. It is actually a like a power pop song about a relationship that for whatever reasons unknown to anyone involved becomes extremely beloved by racists and then they have to sort of think about what does this and how do we how do we sort of reconcile what everyone are meaning of the song what most people think of it and then with a fringe member of society things of it. I mean one of the basis for it was many two years ago. Ozzy Osbourne released a song called suicide solution and some teenagers killed themselves after listening that song and it was the lesson they listen you before they committed suicide now. That song is about Bon Scott of A._C._D._C. drinking himself to death so ozzy's reaction was well. It's not my fault. If people misinterpret this song you know it's like if they take it so seriously that they would kill themselves over it. I expect they would take it seriously enough to you know read the lyrics or find out what the song is about which of course is a very a good argument. Although the song is called suicide solution so it is confusing you know it. Does it matter if you're intended message is X.. If even a sliver of people think the messages e and the reaction in that accompanies interpretations Z. has more impact than every other normal interpretation like Charles Manson's perception of helter skelter was more significant than the ten million people who just thought Oh. This is kind of a heavier Beatles Song. You know it's like you know. They didn't think it was about a race war. Only one guy did but everything about culture change because of that misinterpretation so are the Beatles responsible able or are they would only fool blame them and that's what kind of the stories about like. What is your sort of filter for hearing criticism about your own book I mean how will you read reviews? People send you reviews like how does that. How's that process even work for you? Will your publicist send you all the good reviews write a good review. They send it to you. What did they do it? The batteries not some them they don't send him but of course if you're somebody who works in the media you will recognize that they must exist right. Yes like okay does far in this book we're talking on. I got Monday okay so so far. This has probably been the best reviewed book I've ever had okay. It's like there was one negative review. Every other one has been positive but the New York Times Times review is not come out yet okay. I expect that will probably be negative just judged on past history but here's the deal. If I don't get an email from my publicist I will know that it must have run so then the question becomes like do I just pretend it doesn't exist. I mean it's not going to change if I know about that sort of always might take on this. It's like you know people always say don't read the comments you know never read the comments. That's like well. It's not what they disappear if I don't. See Him. I mean I'll read the comments. It's like you just that's. That's GONNA be there regardless right. So why should I be the one person who doesn't know what the comments are the other advice. I always give to people like about twitter and stuff like that like you know the reaction in many writers or you know people just immediate people anybody just sort of kind of mid-level range of notoriety where you're not famous but some people know who you are. They are like well. Don't even look at the people who at you or don't you know just ignore block them immediately immediately. That's actually not the best move because do that if you just block them immediately or just ignore them. It's almost as though you are saying. Well you know there's a whole bunch of opinions and I'm just going to try to avoid the ones the I don't see having a benefit. If you get like a really weird tweet from someone like especially a real aggressive tweet from somebody that just doesn't know you and it's like the thrill odd go in and check their timeline. It will make you feel better every time I I'm not not most of the time every time because those things never happen in total vacuum there is nobody who has a real sort of cogent interesting funny twitter timeline and then every once Z.. You're like six months or whatever that they write something crazy at a total stranger I mean it raises a real kind of complicated question to me which I think about a lot which you know say twenty five years ago you would sort of jokingly say ear anecdotally say it's like <hes> you know. People are nuts. People are crazy out there you just <hes> but there was really no way of knowing that we just kind of said that you know and it was you know now. There is this kind of clear record of it and a and it makes me wonder if the technology has sort of pushed people in this direction and it's you know it's actually there's a causal relationship between it or if it is just a reflection of that reality if this is always been the case and instead of just having these interior thoughts they now have an exterior way to express it. Wow when facebook was new in twitter was new even when like friendster was new lucky mine. I remember that that was like two thousand four or whatever there was sort of this belief that like well you know there's there's the person in real life and then there's the person's constructed persona on social media but more and more I am starting to wonder if that is actually reversed reversed and if someone's relationship sometimes to their constructed social media personality actually is who they are and all the times you see them in life that's when they're editing their behavior and that they have sort of been socialized realized to realize that there's a certain things you have to say and behave and you just can't say crazy things to people you don't know and that you shouldn't be performing tive about your age and your emotion and all that stuff and then this situation now actually Ashley allows them to be there organic cell the person they want to be and that's that's. That's interesting thing because you know I don't want to believe that but I see more and more evidence that makes me think that <hes> how true is that for are you. Though like what's your relation to your social media identity well. I mean I use social media basically to promote my books and my events. That's about it. I mean I'm in a little different situation because I mean I feel to a degree that social media Eh is specifically geared toward people who don't have another venue or option to express their opinions in public in the public sphere like you know it's weird to me like somebody will will link to a Youtube Hoop clip or a joke someone maters story and they will right like I feel seen. It's a real odd thing to me because the person is basically saying is this thing that's happening in the culture makes me feel as you'll you can understand me through this thing and I want you to understand like I don't feel unseen right like if anything I have been overseen been I've written eleven books. I've worked in the media for twenty five years going all these fucking podcasts podcast. I don't feel in any way that my voice is not being heard so as a consequence I look at twitter and it's like something I just think that well. I don't really see the benefit of it and I do see a detriment to it. There's so many people who my feelings about them have changed because of their online persona you know so. I was GONNA want that. I don't want to have that experience. Of course I wonder what if it instead of twitter emerging when I was whatever I was thirty seven or whatever thirty-six yeah what if I had been nineteen I fear I would have been obsessed with it. I fear I would have done it all day. Long every relationship I would have had would have been pushed through this filter so I tried to have some empathy for that too so just to your earlier point though the the idea you're talking about is that the thought experiment you running through is our people becoming more performance in real life and actually being less performed more themselves on social media. Yes although in real life there's not a real will value in being performed live okay. It's like we use the what was the common like a comparison people. Would I use about social media. They would say like Oh. It's like the town square or it's like a cocktail. A party where the whole world is united but if you think about it if you went to a cocktail party and somebody was standing on a table just spewing out ideas about politics was people walk by they'd be like get that due to the party right or or if you walk down Hound Square and there was someone on just constantly yelling strangers about things that they kind of you know that would be a bad townsquare culture tells us not to be performed in that way but at the same time if you're really editing yourself and acting a naturally that's a kind of performance it just goes unnoticed. Does it all tie into the phrase you said earlier that I jotted down. I wanted to follow up on was used the phrase hard reality verse Constructed Reality Sure I mean a little bit the history of humankind womankind though is a move away from hard reality. I mean in a sense when I talked about constructed reality. I mean anything that we construct that sort of then becomes sort of the normal way of living in a sense moving from living outside into to a cave into a house. It's a kind of constructed reality because we don't look at a house as something like you know. It would probably be good but no one's going to do this. We're like every time they come home. Be Like can't believe I have a house is like we just you know so everything you know whether it be everything happened in the industrial revolution. All of these things were moving people away sort of from the hard reality of life that exists no matter what you know if you drop a person in the desert there is a hard reality if they have nothing else to work with and we certainly know in a constructed mediated reality but starting really with I mean I guess you could say with the gramophone or whatever but an accelerating television and then tripling celebration with the Internet most of our reality is now constructed and most of our understanding of how the world is is through this sort of false filter. which is there all the time like you know and and we wouldn't necessarily want it removed? I mean you know I I've talked about this impasse books you know I think one of the most underrated things about the experience of being alive is like so for however long you consider cumins to have existed. You know I mean some people would say twenty five thousand years. Somebody would say you know. Some people say two hundred fifty thousand years whatever you pick is the beginning of like when the hominids like a person okay for thousands and thousands and thousands of years if you saw something it meant it was in front of you. If you saw a tiger that meant you were looking at a tiger and everything about your biological makeup told you you know get away from eight or or attack whatever okay well then once we start with the idea film you know with the great train robbery at the Nineteen Oh eight or something from that point forward. It's becoming more and more common for us to see things that aren't there all the time but just think of biologically how crazy that is that. Aren't you know pretty much from the creatures that crawled out of the water you know millions of years ago up until eighteen ninety or so. There was no chance that you were going to see something that wasn't there and now we've they just instantly accepted that dissidence but have we biologically been able to process that I often wonder if part of the reason people feel so alienated by this technology they love you know their phone or whatever people would lose their goddamn my if they can't find phone I'm the same way and if somebody said you love your phone. Does it make you happy. Almost everybody would say. I don't know no actually you know twitter went down a couple of weeks ago. Many people then later tweeted is kind of hoping maybe it would never come back or whatever like you're using the medium to say. I hope you know why is that maybe there's something in us. That's telling us this is weird that we're now in this life. Where most of what we experience is a fabrication but it's so ingrained with us that we can't get our mind to see sort of the collision of hard falls reality? I don't know I've talked to a number of people about how it does seem like so many people hate twitter and yet cannot live without it the someone wants that there's like a real business opportunity there because no one is hated the thing they felt like they need the most which is twitter right. Well sure it's like you know it's there was some talk of that about television. You know I mean there was there's a long period particularly in the seventies and early eighties where there was this idea that the people who disliked television the most for the people who watched at the most and that it was sort of changing the way people viewed reality and all that and you know time time has proven that does probably true you know <hes> the things about technology is the criticisms of it in a specific sensor almost always wrong but in an abstract sense are almost always correct. I mean when people talk about say the influence M._t._v. had in the nineteen eighteen eighties. They were wrong about many things but the big thing was always that this is going to shorten people's attention span because instead of watching a half hour show there are watching three minutes show and that the kids who watch videos all day long are going to start seeing these videos is autonomous miss things and it's going to be impossible for them to watch something that's lengthy and complicated and eventually is going to make it very difficult for them to read anything that requires you know forty minutes of uninterrupted thought it's pretty hard to argue that that hasn't happened I wanNA. Mr Wrapping up because I won't take up too much time but one thing I do want to dive into before you go is I'm very curious to get to understand your sort of media consumption. I mean we talked about a little bit with the criticism. In terms of you know your publisher since you reviews news but just on a more general basis like in the day and age of twitter and hot takes and whatnot like what do you read and how do you really need to be informed or stay up on things without like being overwhelmed or angered or complete losing your mind. I'm curious. What would just be a basic level? How you consume media in the news and whatnot well you know I read The Washington Post and the New York Times I look at E._S._p._N.? And I look at social media and you know it was weird. Is that the idea of keeping up on stuff jeff. That's actually much easier than it used to be. Because now things come to me and it's not just like the biggest ideas kind of everything it's like I <hes> it is very easy to have a sense of what the discourse is is because there are people know pushing at you where there was a time when if you really wanted to know sort of about fringe popular culture for example like you had to dig for it you know now. It's not like that now. There's somebody out there who sees themselves as almost like their own kind of silk published newspaper and the topic they covers fringe popular culture and they're going to push these things out so I know way feel like I'm missing anything. How do you sort of that noise? Though I guess is more my question because there's so much of well you just stick with those websites or you know well the thing about social media step the league you the other thing like for example. I will admit I don't subscribe to g q anymore. I did for many years. I don't like the chuck why not why because I don't subscribe to any magazines okay okay but there is a zero percent chance that I am going to miss the best stories and G. Q.. There's no way Labban there's zero chance there's no way that if something is that is good or controversial version or so bad that people WanNa talk about it or evolve somebody who's so famous. There's no way I'm not going to cure about it. There's just no chances like I will hear about an even if I make a conscious decision not to there are celebrities liberties who I have no interest in whatsoever and I know quite a bit about them just because I have been informed of these things for this secondary reason which is not the main reason it'd be my interest. I can't think of many situations in the last five years where I have gone to a bar with people and somebody was talking about something and I was like I have no idea what you're talking about. In less <hes> the thing is so goddamn stupid that even the people talking about it are like well. I'm embarrassed to admit this but like many people are upset that Chris Pratt wore t shirt that has snake on it has some relationship to the ultra-right movement stuff like that will come up but like I could miss that right right like so often now particularly with controversial stories we act as though the controversial story is getting all the attention but actually it's the reaction to it. That's getting far more traction. Somebody will say something in an interview and it will be a controversial controversial thing that they said and thousands and thousands and thousands of people react to it and make that a new story then and then we act as though the stories with the person said but the real stories a lot of people were upset bide so did you catch wind at all and maybe this is a specific newark media thing but you're unbelieveable answer to the Literary Dinner Party question in the by the book interview. You just did at the New York Times. Did you catch wind of that sort of having a moment on twitter of course I did. I mean it's like okay. I have to and it's just it's just a weird thing I mean if there was great answer but people want to use it for whatever reason they want to use it for people have been like a they see it having some kind of gendered meaning that Somehow Logistics Guy who's trying to this is proof that like a man is trying to push his I I D- I answered the question the weirdest reaction though is the many people who seem to be like Oh just answer the question questions. Just give them the three names like they would prefer. I give a boring answer. I don't know why anybody would think that. Why would anybody think that it's better somehow to give a Joel answer and then the third thing? Is that the other after a while after it happens for a few days there are some people who sort of act as though it's like I pitched this to the New York Times says you it's like I answered the question. They gave me a whole list of them. I had to do it then. There's some people who like it think it's really a great or whatever and I guess I'm happy that happens. I you know I it is one of these things where it's like. You can't think too much about it because I actually stirred trying to think about why it happened. I don't know like Bingo conclusion because it's just it just happened. I thought it was an okay answer. I certainly wouldn't say to myself. It's like well if people remember one thing about me. It's Miami I would never thought that I feel like a lot of your work in the past has been about cultural pop culture criticism but also sort of digesting pop culture in unpacking what it means in some way in I'm curious like in a day and age again going back to sort of media consumption win. There are so many opinions. And hot takes out there like one thing I find is that it's very difficult to go into a movie or an album these days without having some sort of preconceived notion of what it might be because you just hear so much about it ahead of experiencing and I'm curious. How so you inoculate yourself from that or maybe you don't inoculate yourself but how that sort of works and how you sort of give yourself the space to form your own opinion? It's hard kind of not to know about these things. I mean okay. I'm really excited about this Quentin Tarantino movie right it looks to me like I mean who knows I haven't seen it yet seems like it could potentially be his best film so I'm just not reading anything about it and it's not that hard to do like it's just be you know what's hard. Bard is people who are who have read about it and then they give their own little take on what they read so then you triangulate a meaning you know but I I don't know it's like how I suppose. There is some argument that would say a that if learning anything about the thing ruins your experience. Maybe the thing wasn't that good but I mean how do you avoid the noise of it. I just I think he just sorta grow a little bit immune to it. It's like living airport yeah. I like that the last question we always ask. This podcast is for a favourite fuck up well. I've been there are so many in my life. I just use one right away. I could think of okay so well <hes> one time I was writing about the Olympics Okay and how I not really a huge fan of the Olympics. I just don't like the idea of patriotism I think negative thing and I don't like the way they're sort of framed and pitched to us or whatever we're going the Olympics and I'm sort of just sort of kind of giving these kind of like wide-angle complaints about them but I'm also like picking up some Kinda Random Olympians and saying like you know we're all going to focus on these people for two weeks and then like no one's ever GonNa care again. They're going only be totally lost a history and they're going to be confusing if their name ever comes up. One of the people I'm talking about was Michael Phelps but which is even the even bigger mistake is at like. I spelled his name wrong. I called him like Tommy Phelps or something so like I got his name wrong and I was totally wrong about the degree people would remember him. You know I mean ingle back to like sex drugs and cocoa puffs. Oh Man that book is still popular. It is riddled with things that in retrospect <hes> you know <hes> ended up not being very the accurate <hes> that's part of doing this. I mean like if you're trying to write about things in a real contemporary way. You're usually GONNA GONNA miss bad you know I when I worked at the Akron Beacon Can Journal I interviewed Donald Fagan of steely. Dan and I was so you know I love steely Dan so much and I I did a really good interview with him and I spilled fagin wrong every time Tori and noticed I noticed went to the copy desk got one letter from one person who noticed it but will also said like great article you know but that's like the I I'll at all I can remember. Is that Oh in Fargo rock rock city. There's a part in that book where I suggested Ozzy Osbourne wrote. Most of the lyrics to black Sabbath material of course was written by Geezer Butler. That mistake bothers me so much. There's so many other things in that book that like if people went through it they might have like really like that's the thing that drives me crazy that mistake I just I'll remember these my whole life yeah yeah. It's in Shammy is everyone we ask this question to says at the beginning goes. There's so many of them in some ways the fuck up to the things we remember well yeah and that's like that's far more memorable. That's an important thing in a way a person who can't remember their mistakes is probably still making them constantly. I mean that you know it's it's the maybe one of the strangest things about writing in general is that you have to have this high level of cognitive dissidents. 'cause you need to have two thoughts in your head at all times. One thought is that this thing I'm working on is the most important thing in the world and if I make a mistake real consequences and the other thing you have to realize is that none of this matters at all and it wouldn't matter at all if I wrote this or not and that part of the reason that can do it freely is because nothing is at stake and you have to think of both of those things at the same time and it's real complicated yeah wow I think in this on a very nice note so thank you very much for taking the time to join us an airplane mode. Hey thanks for talking me man that is it for this episode of airplane mode. Thank you to Chuck for coming on his book. Book raised in captivity is out now that is also it sadly for this season of airplane mode. Maybe you didn't know that podcasts have seasons. 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MBMBaM 494: Face 2 Face: Hoops Destruct Button

My Brother, My Brother And Me

1:12:06 hr | 11 months ago

MBMBaM 494: Face 2 Face: Hoops Destruct Button

"The mcelroy brothers are not experts and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's expert but if there's a degree on his wall I haven't seen it also. This show isn't for kids which I mentioned only so the babies out there will know how cool they are listening. What's up you've called did not to not Take over in the modern era either always whether Justin mcelroy Roy middle brother Travis mcelroy sweet baby brother and thirty under thirty media luminary Acre from mcelroy. Here is a list of the Septuagenarians. I've seen this week Donald Fagan. David crosby anyway. Anyway here's my best height man in a bid. All righty winds all steely really Dan. I guess you guys aren't twenty three and here's my kids. Why the Chilean miners? We have reemerged. We're we've been buried deep below the king's theatre now reemerged here. Why did we do that? I don't know but it was beautiful down there a lot. Lot of buddies weird amount of bodies I found out something interested in Vegas. Ou have limits. I think I have. I think I know what it might might be. It is that I have limits may my passion for I don't WanNa say bad things I guess about things the lower end which thing hurting yourself with questionable cuisine the lower end of culture I think is yeah food cultures specifically cuisine But I mean we're in food city right sitting. US spots to eat league. Great spots to dine. I was like went to this great Italian place up in Harlem. I turn the great wine list. You gotTA checking the company and all the way which does the bubble gum and GM company. I went to today and I don't. I think I've heard of that one. Justin can you give me a little bit of background. We had it was very cold. Damn Dude if that's the first thing you got to lay down the public gump's fee that's one thing about it is. Here's some good reasons to go there. It's very cold and it is inside. Yeah I think you can save Republicans Room Company that is indoors. That's huge. I had to kiss me and they were kids and it was cold so he wins Bogo. What what we're trying to choose between Bogart Shrimp Company and hard rock cafe and I say how can you choose? I know I said above goes for apple used to be. Oh there was a way to the olive garden I sent it would be more hilarious. I went there. Yeah not realizing that. In addition addition to getting material for my podcast. I would have to eat the food. We're going to embody I. Here's the thing I'm not picking this. This is law said a law. I'm not a big. It was bad guys except the food was the experience. Though was was banned there is a they have a sign on the table at it. You can flip it right and if it's blue it says run forrest run God and that means the server can just go right on by and if you need something you flip it to read and it says stop for a stop and any server in the place will stop copier table to see what you need except none of them. Can I flip that bastard back and forth gave a solitary shit. They're magic shoes. WHO's carry them right back to the break room right back? No one actually address. The many needs what I did enjoy. Roy was the table right next to Sydney. Kept like nudging me. And there's a table of two middle-aged people sharing during what appeared to be a bottle of wine they brought from home. That's very good Ed. I'm pretty sure they didn't get it from BUBBA gump. Because it wasn't in a box so I probably wasn't from there but I was a little judgy I but then by the end of the meal is like fuck. I wish drunk. A half bottle of wine does look like they're having the time of their lives right. We had add peel and eat shrimp that we ordered and they said when I said Peel and eat shrimp and you know they said spicier garlic. Excuse you use me for appeal. Shrimp they brought them to the table. Details in the legs and stuff were not there. The peeling at happened just and insure any. And here's a fun thing. All my job was to eat and women. I did my job. It tastes Baloney exactly. So it wasn't hilarious. I did do maybe now tie tragedy plus time it Cetera Cetera right tragedy plus time. PEPs it did it. Did it never really sink in while you're eating at this restaurant that you are dining at a themed restaurant named after after Tom Hanks's dead friend from that one movie when you first walk into this place and we're not just going to talk about this we'll talk about other things when you first walk into this place. There is a bench enj- with a box of chocolates permanently adhered to it. It's been twenty five years since his fucking flick came out guys. That's surreal walk in there and like scan your art selection. This is very strange therapy above legal voting age. Who might now for the first time watch for his thing? Is this a movie based off of that restaurant chain yes that bad Baloney restaurant. Aw Hey what if we do our thing our usual. Yeah Yeah. Why don't we? I want to start with a Yahoo from the Yahoo Answers Service. This first one was sending by 'EM I can't thank you Emma. It's Yahoo Answers user. Observe who asks okay. How how to quietly eat chips tips? I eat lunch and a quiet section of the library. How do I quietly eat? Malays Brag the answer is obvious various. Put in your mouth closed mouth wait five minutes early. I'm saying it's not pleasant. Answer the answer is not the answer you choose to do but if you're asking how'd you quietly consumer Tim. It is to let that bad boy. dissolve in swallow it like a medicine tail like an Easter. I would get as many pringles as I wanted for that serving and put them all mouth at the same time and then bite them all at once and say oops. I farted no one would ever suspect. Why would he lie about that? I have a terrible gastric incident. They are two sounds very different. They don't know okay. So you're you're reality. Someone's like I've heard you for reform. That's both I know what I'm saying. They might hear you say I've heard a human rights. Nice try but that was shipper pay. I am also just try I also popping or what have you been eating eighty. Have you been eating those papers. You th wrote the ground and they snapped. I'm also awesome also robot I meant to tell you guys. And those are my sound sounded various gears cranking and worrying away can use sit next to the library grandfather clock and eat a chip a second. That's very good chomp CHOMP CHOMP YOU'RE GONNA have to get really good like two tubes pringles just kind of alternating back and forth at double-handed when you run out you have to allow slave. Your clue broke. Stalberg adores now. This one would take a little investment and a little pre planning. Okay but could you get a book bound and you right on the cover a book about eating chips and then you eat behind it and so over and go and go. Oh it's just a really good book Yeah this is an audio. That's nothing it's like one of those greeting cards that makes noises. This is an immersive bushes experience. And they're like what happened and I just found the gym sitting here. Could you just do it in the bathroom. Because you just stand up. Ali announced I have to go to the bathroom for the other reason if I walked into a public raspberry menthol human being just sitting here eating chips I would call the pulling someone. Someone who wants walked into the bathroom and saw someone eating corn on the COB. Yes I think chip's would be much less confrontational okay. This is that scene gene. Replay out. I wanted to be quiet. I'm going to go pee in the periodical. I would probably get out probably a little. Sassy about it. And they're looking at a library. Yeah my mind went to. I would say like I'll well I'll let you go but you gotta cut me in on this chips deal but I don't think bathrooms where I want stranger chips. I love that show man. We also take questions from the audience and we try to help those people. Here's the first one I am. I'm a father of a five and a half year old girl who loves barbies and especially loves when I play barbies with her. Normally she's very creative making your own. DIY Barbie clothes and furniture but a problem arises when it comes to actually play with the dolls. The scenario put barbies in are devoid of any conflict. When I play way with her I try to instill some sort of small crisis for the dolls to overcome like Running late to the airport or fighting a monster. Every time I try to create some sort of story my daughter are used that only good things can happen and pretty much gives me a script. What my barbies are allowed to say? And do how can I teach my daughter to craft compelling stories so we can keep playing barbies together. That's from Mattel. Melodrama in Manhattan are you here. You could just chill and have cake. Party J.J Abrams. Chill the fuck now. Now hard disagree when we play with our children. We are not playing on a plane to teach in this day. Hey and age of content generation Multi Trans Media Multi Year streaming deals. The number one skill you pass onto your children is fucking narrative. Crafting can't can't wait for Charlie and get their shows on so to in. Hey everybody joining me. It's another episode of my actual play. Barbie me podcast you gotta teach these kids how to do a story. Yeah because here's here's my right. Your daughter Likes Nice. Things happen to Barbie. Because your daughter Likes Barbie right get that but I can you explain to her that that's not going to strengthen barbies Arby's will of character is not going to make tough. Here's a Dank. Yes that's nice but what does she. Learning is five and a half too young to learn about the hero's journey. Ernie yes thank thank. Listen yes Barbie Barbie starts. She was doing okay right. You had to lose it all to find out how much she had a daddy. Production Barbie has grow. Barbie has to learn yes. You have barbies great. But like what if Barbie had challenges that she had an overcome. And yet do you care more Barbie. Now that she succeeded or failed. I don't I don't know maybe we're still so early storyboarding maybe can lose his job. Army has to take on a second job to cover and then he finds that he really likes being at home home. And Barbara's not cool with that 'cause that's that's interesting then they talk through their problems now their marriage stronger than okay. Now I'm getting the okay. I am on the daughter side right now. I just flip. Yes thank you welcome to the you. Don't WanNa see Ken and Barbie deal with their marital issues at C.. I fixed for this that I was like this is a good idea. I'm going to say this out loud and then I was like no. It's not a good fix my fix for it was just imagine the drama in your own mind which is to say Barbie is GonNa GonNa leave kin one of these days and doesn't know how to do it and just keep that in Europe. I Ken but at that point. Your play way is gonna be different and the daughter's going to know why I got with Daniel Tiger's neighborhood right you're just assuming they're eating gazelles screen and well the thing that I'm always wondering is what happened to Prince Monday and I think about it all the time. What I'm watching? So I believe that there was a bloody coup in which which Prince Tuesday over through Monday right I think about it all the time I know the problem Barbie and Ken can be happy. They should be happy but who's just moved in next door. Third Wheel adding some drama into the story kind of like Stinky Doug or whatever you know you you need your pre of your rate you need your depre- Torres moved in next door. Property values are dropping address not too young to learn about the Stinky Doug Journey. Here's a yahoo that was sent by Sophie. Thank you Sophie. Yahu Answers user Michael who asks We have soft flesh on the outside and hard bone on the inside. Okay you just as attention now. Real quick through we have soft flesh on the inside and the outside. Been Hard Boone on the inside South Ellen Stop Selling I love. Animals like crabs insects have soft in the inside hard on the outside they work even move without bones in their way is it just. They're jealous to push up against their arm or seems like a poor design choice. Thank you if if you could trade. I hate senior. Hold that microphone. I do not know if you could trade feeling the breath of your newborn baby on the nape of your neck if you can trade that for bench and armor that helps you to several your enemies. Guess obviously right right yes. Obviously I mean listen. We've dreamed of a mugger pulling a knife. Can you going to stab you and shatters against your carapace. No Nice no nice. There's no more violence. We fixed violence. There's no point everyone's got armor. Everyone's got EXO plating. There's no point in doing crimes everybody's got caused for hands and EXO pleading there's no uh-huh crime anymore they were. You could still embezzle even if everybody had a care about. Are you going to embezzle. If you know your boss has giant exa Axel Claus posited give through my armor some people have better claws than other people. Okay so now there is still dispirito. Some violence still the haves and have nots. But we don't fix it through. There's no more crime. Okay there's no there's white collar crime milk milk is is it controlled substance in this world. Because we don't want people can we don't want the imbalance to get to is love the skull skulls great. God I love the skull. I'm wild all about it and stuff brain helmet pin my skin. Good stuff I love. How if I if they cut through the top of my face? It'll we'll stop by the skull. We'll stop before the brain go says not so fast but my brain is in here. Let me let me flip it on you. If there's a part they can't cut through let's put on the outside then I don't even worry about more God come on. I always these. Were doing a note session but odd I would also say ribcage. I loved acting my thing. Why did you play a whole this protects everything? Why would you stop in my own area? We're talking about abilities. You you know that that soups important and we love the skull. I love the off. But can we talk about the two holes you put in the front with the pulls is shelley and as your and this thing here that Evans hit wrong. I buy the thing. That's literally in front of me. All hoops destruct button on the front of my faith. Are you sure and also added weak points here here here here here here here solid bone. Thank you also if sugar taste so good yes oh oh you gotta help me help you. Why is this sugar? Make our mouths bones fall and while we're talking about mouth bones. Why you got for us? One solid piece big salad jumper. I love your son always great stuff. I'm gary about it but the two holes rose in the front are wild about that now wild about it. What if I had plating right here that I had to flip up? Yes say cool stuff or eat hot GAW. Aw Imagine it. I've improved your creation very welcome but I'm your creations. You shouldn't feel bad about it. Yeah yeah all right. That's fast answers. We saw. How many of our questions could we solve? Just by. Giving God's some note is an issue that I shop for underwear online while at work I do. We have big very visible monitor. And it's not like it's not what I thought that sentence was going to. I have big very visible underwear. That's how I like it. That's my style. Prominent they hang out the top of my pants and foreign basically a skirt. It's ran I like my underpants billowy Louis very big visible monitor and it's not like come in and then close office shared his way to order things in general on a personal computer. That's from currently using personal computer. I would hope not desist live. Show are you here. Oh No that that was so fucking chilling. They got Cox. They're in jail. Well if you ever run into this exact scenario at your job I guess we can keep going. Hey maybe don't shop for anything while you're at work on your big visible monitor okay. It's been a long sometimes as any of us have had like office. It's not a hunger percent of the time work right. We all know time to yourself you right. If you're there for say nine hours doing three hours of work. Wow Fuck an employee of the month. I would say though. Somebody's like Justin. That's not a work time activity. I say why need the underwear to come to work. If I got these. I can't come in. You don't want that. I don't want that I don't want you don't want me having stuff with away from my business I got a wick stuff away. I'm GonNa sit here and the handle topnotch Wyking. Are you watching youtube video reviews of cereal. I gotta eat the cereal to get calories for work in business expensive work thing thing. You can do what I did when I worked for Tommy SMIRL and wanted to watch watch or listen to some some Pandora tunes where I would just get the browser window real real small hoops like a secret secret microscope. Copello wanderer you can't see all of it at once. You gotta just so quadrants so even if somebody was looking at your computer they'd be like that's a fucked up pop of AD. How did he know I'm dating underwear? Thanks Tommy could you. You'll never catch me. I understand that. Do you have a big visual monitor and you work in like an open thing but could you do something like this where you have the monitor shop like this and they went comes. Didn't like what are you doing. And you're like I hurt. My this is how we have to look at my computer from now on. We'll take your computer monitor into the bathroom also solves a a lot of problems. Yeah that's why I spent most of my jobs in the bathroom. not this one. You'll be happy to hear. Do most of this one in the office. But I'd I'd like I'd like to play out a scenario here. Okay sure Justin. I would like you to play. Play the boss. Okay what do you like to think in your everybody's friend but listen. You're still all about the bottom line so Boston. Yeah and you just walk up to my desk in in your office brings but you really haven't done a joke in Ohio okay. 'cause you're going through something at home shirt and everyone still thinks frank stern in a couple of days the other okay. So you've just walked up and I'm shopping for underwear on my computer travis. Oh no my name's Derek. Sorry that was on me. Continue their your you all the money in the office. I've got a Catanha okay. Hold on one. No was that meant to be a prank or are are you blaming not well it depends. How rough is this stuff? I'm going through at home. Not Quite there. It's a prank O- other directed I scare you you dead. You've been practicing practising two years for this spring. I know it's not good for me to lead with criticism. So I'm going to try to ease into so derrick Kerry you've seen this this new movie the joker everybody's talking about have you seen this. The Joker Jared Leto I. I don't get much. They make pig malls anyway. My wife begged wife pig. My Wife Peg. You've had her party. Yes anyway. This computer screen. You got your own logo of its work but but some underwear. Well I guess cats out of the bag shopping for a present for you. Oh aw that's really nice. But if pig friends unaware that she doesn't Barbie by jurors I think we're ever have a little river but little he's dying over here Cassini behind him with two knives in his back. Yeah you took a break to kill them. If only we had our hearts up on the outside it is right about now see again the. Here's another Yahoo. That was sent in by a listener of our show. As thank you Deborah. She said in a normal voice ray. If you're listening you're voices normal to it's fine. We are all have different instruments. Mom asked by Yahoo Answers. Use Your Ted who asks Matthew mcconaughey Fan Fiction. Does anyone know where I can find. Fan Fiction about Matthew mcconaughey the Internet. It doesn't need to be anything crazy just going about his life and maybe a mystery story happens. Okay listen I was prepared to perhaps a mock this person son right as we so often do but if there was a TV show right and which Matthew mcconaughey played himself Just trying to go about his life making movies. These fools gold or whatever right and also mysteries just kept bobbing up and no one else is GonNa take care of him except him right. I would watch the fuck out of that. That was that was detective. Basically Dang okay. So here's what we're going to do it. God we're going to do one word at a time. It'll be the rest of the show. Now we're just gonNA build and see if we can come up with anything good and if it's bad the story starts to go wrong well jettison it and start again. I'll start Matthew Broderick. Walk the gloves filthy. There there was no Brompton Maryland. Said please don't include chatter order McConnell. Hey broddrick middle name was pulled it from the fire drinking a whiskey. ooh You and you milk a tall matthew. You statue a statue. This story rules. I don't think this this is. Let's get the mystery in there. Okay let's start again. I'll know we'll keep going astern. Okay right right over. Thinking you're doing shots rang out in the car. Okay Invest Up. This is the shortest three and he instilled hope nope generation of musicians anyways in the end. We again we didn't even get to the dog or love. Andhra site plans. Do you think mysteries just naturally happened during Matthew mcconaughey as day in which cases would not be fan fiction nonfiction. There's just be his diary. Yes memoir I think any mystery that happens in Matthew mcconaughey as life ends ends with woody. Harrelson stole my weed. I left my bongos woody. Harrelson's house something along those lines lines. I asked Woody Harrelson. Watch dog right anyway. Should we do another question. My Office old mandatory annual safety meetings. But I skipped this year's meeting to go to the minimum show September. Hr told me no problem. Just come to make meeting. But then and they scheduled to make a meeting for today and I missed the memo in my defense tickets waiting before they schedule the meetings less cool you should is left that out anyway. I liked it better when. You're a rebel. Can you give me the lowdown on office safety so I can accomplish both things today. That's from super save in Silver Spring. Are you here. Oh real close. Oh now in the splash zone. Hey Paulie Koch WF role but more wine whenever you can be no thank you. Well thank you. So so first and foremost you've gotta find a comfortable level angle hike for your chair. You'RE GONNA sit in every day. Yeah and you're going to think a little uncomfortable now but it's financed go to work and then you're going to be job for forty six years. Yes and it's GonNa break your insides. Yeah gear comfortable chair. I'll be all twisted. Is it up. Yep It'll be a nightmare next. The printer is super heavy. Thank you yeah so be careful for about that. That is going to sound like a challenge. And you'RE GONNA THINK I. It's not a challenge. It's a warning in a sweat. Don't try to pick up the printer. It's really fucking headed are saying printers heavy for most people but some B- Even Chad can't pick it up and he's really strong. Works out all the time nightside. I'm trying to lift and he went. ooh That's heavy. That's how having you Tony Chad. Who is on the cover of the October issue? Big Guys monthly can't lift it. But you think you can Dan the printers so fucking heavy. Don't be smart. Also don't do stair tricks. I know it's exciting. You want to do tricks on the stairs you want. Want to impress the young guy who got a job in the mailroom and has a six scooter and he can do CEO checks but he's a young guy and stare tricks near young man's came. Don't impress them. That away impressed them by like buying a beer or something. He'll appreciate that. Don't do steer trace especially not if you're carrying the super heavy Brenda. Don't touch the fucking Brin- it did but if you did touch the Brenner no sunglasses at work. You're indoors it's too dark. You're going to fall down the stairs. Don't turn off all the lights so it's a quote even playing field. No one will be able to see your sunglasses. It's pointless I also and they probably would be too scared even cover this meeting or talking about Emotional Safety Janice is gonNA compliment you right. She is she wants something she is using it. Don't trust Janusz not everybody. Can I used the forklift. Yes they make it look easy. It's not a cool. I played. It doesn't matter your Narian Canarian X.. Button on the entire thing now if you could. I'm not saying don't buy if you could use the forklift to eat with and film it and put it on Youtube and have it be like a whole viral thing like I with a fork. Lift like that is pretty good. That might impress the guy in the mailroom and I know what you're thinking thinking forklifts copier loophole. I'm lifting it with a copy of the forecast not gonNA war. It's not gonNA work too heavy at the printer and scanner on her and fax machine. All one that's heavily. Don't go in the elephant pin because you think you can beat them in a fight. This is if you work at zoo surface to that. If you work at zoo I could do a lot just off the top of my head. Lift your knees live of with your knee. No I liked the verbal. Hey come on Mr Heist ever not trip on Lego building true. That's true if you lived your knees we off the four so I was thinking about the breaking this came in. This is breaking news breaking breaking. whoa yeah this is a breaking haunted Dole Watch just came in? I got a notification. I love what happens when I'm out of show already. It's really convenient Veena. Yeah it's weird when it just happens like at home or while you're sleeping or something yeah trial hey if it just came in. Why are you having a search through your your your phone? Does it not serve. I WanNa be I wanNA bring up a photo. We'll cut this part out but y'all can were fucking shit so what's up. This is Monster Protection troll doll mystical forest. idyll rare wanted. That's right a troll haunted all All of our interests are colliding. Do I do. I need to buy another protection. Dole to protect me from this doll. Yes okay cool. It's the perfect scam. This is from curious imports. This is written in the style. I I mean it looks like an e e cummings poem structured and a very fun way protection by Langston Hughes new resin stands for inches. High measurement does not include the hair. No need to brag. Don't worry counting the hair. This is your personal protection troll. Then why do they have Eh. He will protect you and keep you safe while keeping you save. He will make sure the no one can harm you an important component in keeping you saying. Give me your money. Good luck robber. No this toy. No one can can bring make sure that no one can harm you or come in your life to bring harm and we all know some people like that. Janice protects against thieves and criminals. Cancel your abt. You've got this troll. Aw keeps your personal possessions safe and you from harm. We've established that this way. I think that this is my body guard. It's a troll. It said that when you hold him and speak to him he will listen well. That's nice isn't it. I always always love and start with. It is said as if the person writing is the only one saying I am saying that you can talk to this. I guess also. 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I've kind of given up on the dream of being cuddly with her and friends with her like to kind of be able to walk past her without her creative intimidating. Yeah you're gonNA get intimidate her. I'm sorry yeah. Do you eat bacon as a rule or reign for sixteen. That's the problem was my whole flipping. What about Likes Vegetable Bacon? Is that this does this. She's super into it to be intimidated because in vegetable bake nothing you said made sense. Yeah I know I said it out loud. It's fine so just to work on the phrasing of the question. You want the pink to think that you're you're not afraid of the pig didn't come to us and say how can I stop being afraid of the pig because that's not even an option this is this is a Kaija pig and yeah have you seen the pig. Do Anything batter dangerous to another human being not to me but occasionally she'll well to me. Yes Nazila are you. Okay Okay Charlotte. My boyfriend and his family is not afraid of her. Like if you push pasture when you're going faster shelley's she's fine pitch descends as my hesitation. Charlotte you're putting a lot of thoughts in this pig. Brainer you sure that the census your hesitation okay. I don't know how to convince pigs that you're not intimidate but I do think I know a way for you to get over this. You're going to need to get like a two and a half pound pig doc. Walk past that confidently. You've done a good job now. Like a five pound pig. Walk past that. You'RE GONNA end up owning a lot of paying one. Yes yes. This is a bit of a commitment. Yeah it's GONNA be a Mr Pope Ribs Penguin Situation Charlotte. So I think I was is always envisioning having a fresh in many reasons why you should love you spent a web since dead meat. Yeah can't Avalon Charlotte you have to turn the pig against your and your boyfriend's family. Next time you go over there I want you to stand in front of the Big Gavin. Say No you won't kill this. That's not on my what I won't allow it. It's a big charlotte. You could try some something intimidates me as maybe bring up a sports and conversation spring up bring up a sports or different kinds of cars that there are. Yeah and YOU UTAH. Bring up those while. You're talking to the pig. Pig will be the biggest thing like me perfectly intimidated does that does it help. It doesn't hurt okay. Good yeah go over here. Hello Hi what's your name. I'm majoring cowles. Legend Adrian. Brenly wild thank you for your service I try. I know you've read a lot of bad guy who's to bring some of the good ones. Thank you for that mostly. Yeah yeah so I sent it to which. Oh God Adrian. That's against the rules. Go fucking sit out. No it's about you. Of course the one about going to the bathroom. CBS So teacher and I'm very very inefficient. So actually I took my first day off of work ever ever. Today is my second year. Nice okay you more than those kids do So I stay at work really late. Like seven seven thirty. I left at eight forty five the other day. It's bad and it's often just me. And the custodial staff right and you know teacher you just have to go to the bathroom all day. That's sort of your day. Wait wait what did finally a job I can sink my teeth. You you mean you mean you feel the desire to go to the bathroom all day. Not just go to the back end of the day hit some like I gotta go to the bathroom so go to the bathroom. And sometimes they'll come out and make eye contact with the custodian about to enjoy Lean uh-huh Zodiac hockey up thing. Don't worry I did a very good job now. No no no it doesn't matter right AJ. Because if I'm understanding correctly I'm getting ahead but like no matter. How good of a job you do there? If you're the last person they see you're responsible for all crime in the bachelor I do. I wait until after. They've cleaned it and be hollering. No you know. That's the wrong answer. I'm just saying that's her thing. This has me all the time because we too and we stay in hotels and every like I always seem to time leaving my hotel room with as the cleaning staff is right outside my door and I will look at them and then just put the CD please handle like. I'm sorry. I made coffee in there. I feel terrible. It is the situation you describe going after what I Ryan to at the airport. A lot when I sprinting towards the restroom as I want to do and they have the little sign up. Hold on you can't go in here. We're doing our work and now I feel so bad in the the opposite arrangement where I'm like I ain't Gonna I'm GonNa wreck it again so there's really not a good order of operations here. Clean the bathroom when you're done so then when they go in there I I things I'm now on me could. Could you greatly favorites. Ideally you should do that when you do your stuff anyway. Well at least maintain your own fortress. Maybe come out and say I use the second Saul. I think you'll appreciate my sign it. Yeah if you find out an answer will you let us know. Usually what I do is I'll go into the breaker and if he's in there like ten that's why I came in and leave. Yeah yeah that's a good one. Just go home. Use the bathroom in the break room. I was also worried about that. There's there's a there's a fight case in there that I really hate. Does that help. Absolutely thank you Adrian. Thank you my name Ms Matt Matt. Hi Matt Hello. What is your question? Well I also multiple Jesus. You had one about a band you might have used to be in. Oh yes tomorrow. I'm playing show band for two years and I left them by ghosting. Them Is is also playing that night. I'm actually opening for them. A sumptuous feast. Now I'm so glad that you're at the microphone for this. You gotta walk me through the timeline wind. How that happened because I'm more at some point? You knowingly agreed to ask well I think left the band in in Oh man you fucking heartache. You don't know you left the one day you realized you were anymore. Yeah no that's kind of more or realize out avid July I think was when I decided for myself. I wasn't in Santa. I started to play music on my own. I knew it was going to happen eventually. I didn't think it was going to happen this way Solo Act. Yeah but I have a full ban behind that you were just going to be there in the dressing room area dance and they might even get confused as to why you were also going on stage and then they'll be all right. Matt doesn't at work here anymore. Matt is it a situation where they have gotten wildly profoundly. Success is it. Cold play is play the Dan you left less. Fortunately for me not okay. That'd be even more embarrassed awry right and this would also be like Machiavelli and sort of plot take that you are opening. I was gonNA say like you. You left the band and now you're opening for them. I don't think you have to feel uncomfortable like it seems like if that bad I'm like I guess he was wrong and we were right that way all their song make them more news on the slot how willing to come out and be like anyway. you put the lime in the cooking. Is that so this would be like. Hey I'm a insert band's name cover bands yes pretty good. You could also say that you're still in the band you're just way way way way way way off tempo. You're rushing a lot about by about forty five minutes if he's like I don't know where the rest of our uh-huh maybe they're in the bathroom. I another one. Just keep getting more ant like. This is feeling good. Let's keep going to keep this SEC. I my long when they come in and say this is my closing act days. How does that help? Absolutely I feel like we just dragged you for a while but thank you for saying hello. Hello How's it going. Hey is that a mcelroy family branded fanny pack who was available of Macaroni. MERCH DOT COM. Right I've read. Those are still convenient for carrying around. Say Dies or stacks. We've already got their money. Theft the baseball now we should have an official sponsors down. Does that come with. It May as well anyway. Okay Hi what's what's your name and question i. My Name is Rachel she her hers. Thank you so I'm a server at Botchy restaurant. I've worked there for three and a half years. Here's the cool onion volcano in a waste of an onion. According to some people there are better ways to cook young. Thank thank you travis. We can't relitigate this cool tricks to right but you're not a chef absolutely not your server at the restaurant. Have you had training to do these things. They trained me three days in the night was on my now. Okay okay. But they didn't train you. Sorry yes I think you misunderstood lift shade trains you to be a server and not spill drinks on people. Not How I don't I don't know when a plague on your nose. Can you go wherever you took the training and say like I'm ready for the master course where you teach me to slide. Somebody's wine wine glass off of a sharp knife on the. I don't know I don't know what kind of these these tricks look like. Listen I got to walk before you can run you. Just start doing the tricks and it. I won't be good at it. None of us are very quickly. You'll lose your job. That's fine job and you'll do a a little bit better there and say and you don't have to tell him you say one of my pride as a server at this place is that never tried to do any Hibachi tricks and that's never the problem for me and I don't expect it to be one at this facility fucking day. Want you just flipping shrimp into people's mouths. bigly there's lots of restaurants the dry you could just hand them an empty glass and you have the pitcher of water and you say. Now I'M GONNA stand back as far as I fill glass and then just throw the water up the air into your open mouth this Holler when you get a powerful thirst. Go easy that like you're the servant whether it's places. Can you be like. Oh you need some ketchup. No from is toss it behind your back catching like edlow bas cocktail stuff. Some nice throwing into the table. Now you just look at it that this is your idea. We are not even ending just saying yes you know. Be a bad ass trick turn table or whatever and then walk up and just say. I hope Y'all enjoy your food tonight. Stone face in your hand right up sunken you. Don't feel it. I do have one thing that usually it gets people that people don't expect so we take we take the order and turn it into the shots. Really here's the food and then we go go take soups out to the table. And it's they're they're hot. They're like soup. Got You ninety. Eight point five and people see that they're steaming and so it really annoys them that we have to say that the hot so when I hand them out I take the first to set them to my left and I go guys want just morally. You know the soup is super hot. That's not a trick that no it's fucking funny. Obviously using that rules John John but like you handed them the balls of side down and flipped it over and it was fooled soup that trip or if you said you you know what else is super hot and then you put your hand on the fucking Hypoxia. You hand in that and at the bottom of is a note that it has their name and social security number on it. Because here's the thing. I don't know how much you can flip but you become a mental est and the same kind of trick but I would say mental ism is like the Hibachi of magic. Yeah man for sure. Does that helps. It helps so much. Thank you thank you. Hello Hi You can angle that up if you want just Mike Front. Yeah you got it. Hi Jake Jake Jake Short while back. I requested some time off and and my boss gave it to me. Even though I didn't have vacation time to use it was about five thirty six in the morning after a thirteen hour shift and I was very tired and when he went to shake my hand I panicked and I hugged him ninth choice right. How racists from his memory memory right? How do I overcome my new fear of handshakes? Yeah Yeah I mean you can practice that. There's some youtube tutorials about how to land that in particular spacecraft so this is a lot like calling your teacher. Mommy yes on that note ono here where it gets worse. Yeah Mommy I know I may have accidentally thanked him by saying thanks for getting me off those uh-huh the one hundred percent not lying to leave here. You know take combined you need to clarify the line. We knew you can tell I was I had a Ah Rather Emotional little speech lineup. About how a hug is can be nice with consent and then closer and maybe it was special but then you talk about high did Kinda Ges joke and now I don't feel like my thing is going to cut the mustard anymore. There was definitely an avenue I was Gonna now. Did you hug you back or is it a nice wilmot. Do actually need to know this information when you're kind of like awkward side Hug it for Christian I inside the US and then we shook hands over. It can be be stabbed switchblade did you. Did you accidentally pull his arm off and then you got his pants like what. Your ear pants fell down shit. J. Jake you fucked up so bad okay before we it done something Jay. My original question still holds Daddy. Hug You back at. I mean he put one arm back around by back to. I guess it rang weirdest kind of like yeah. They're matching Paul. Call her. Yes we've established so you might have actually reached the point that warrant going to him and saying I also know how how bad now we we are past the point of Joking Jake. I'm worried about you and this other person who both of you were in this amount. I'm finally complaint with. Hr Not against you or myself but against the moment like you should both be mad at fade and what it brings together people. Talk about serendipity like it's always a good thing no sometimes a kitchen sometimes till human the bodies in such a way that it butterfly effects out and Causes World War three got you immediately. It was a B- The effect your hands to get on top of beating got you. So Jacob Wardi work now that's actually the thing. The job pays too much to leave this money trapped this seats. This seems like a question less about human intimacy and more about the power dynamics which is to say you're going to have to be the boss now eurozone how and then you can say now that I'm the boss what what was up with that hug your fire. You should've you should apologize for this. Yes the average size. You must apologize less. No jokes is Joe. Joe's get Outta here last jokes. Come on backup jokes. Waiting in the wings come on down. Can you establish this as like your secret handshake with the boss. Do you have any friends in the office that you can repeat this in front of the boss is like oh it turns out. It's not weird. Yeah Jas just weird it should. Should we do the normal twenty nine thousand nine handshake for millennials and hip. Dad's hey jokes folks off the stage. You can't just hunk people yes also that. Hey nineteen you have to apologize. It was an accident. You must apologize. 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Is NZ the best place in the world for women to play sport?

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21:45 min | 5 months ago

Is NZ the best place in the world for women to play sport?

"I WANNA I to ask a meal and Christian. Delight Women's sports. Use I. Don't watch a lot of women's sport. On even investment again. Using. Really created seventy in the second, it's not easy. Talk. They. World. Watch, ones football. I watched low nipple when I was a kid. In this sort of blunder, calling Donald Fagan. Great, times. I Recount Times. Yeah eighteen hopper. Yes, we'll always be adding offer. And My Heart Stone He. it's an interesting sausage in Christian actually because I would say that I'm a big proponent of women's sport. Even though that's really tried thing to say, you know what does that actually main, it's really it's actually kind of patronizing. The proponent of women's Sport, but it means you interested in it and I think. That's that's what's important and have to watch it all the time, but. That you accept that you know it is a thing that it that it's interesting that it stains on. It signed to fate. Really I'm a meal of this is the detail and that's Suzanne. McFadden she's the editor of Locker Room Branch of newsroom Dot Co dot zied which reports exclusively on women's sport. And she's a happy woman. This is a major milestone in the planning for the. Women's cricket world. Cup Today. We're unveiling cities which will host the tournament here in New Zealand Lean. Exterior and New Zealand has scored a big win in its bid to host the twenty twenty one women's Rugby World Cup. And it's beaten Australia to the owner I can announce the host country. Of the fever women's World Cup twenty-three. Australia New Zealand. We are hosting three women's World Cups and three years. So what will all this mean for professional and amateur sport in this country? I think it's really important. For not only four women's boot with foot sport in New Zealand. And for how young people male and female to say that women sport is a strong. It's very very watchable. It doesn't have to be exactly like you know. The black beans don't have to play exactly like the OV- legs. They have their own style of play and. I think it's really really important Al Knicks. Generations see that strength and. The backing of New Zealand in New Zealand is Beck woman. Sport is really important. We wouldn't have those world caps here. If New Zealand didn't believe. That not only as strong here, but that people are interested in it. The government when they put money into these events. Yes sure they talk about. The economic benefits that will have for New Zealand. But I think one of the biggest things I look at as the long term legacy. Of Holding events like this and the. Ongoing impact all have growing sport and. Recreation participation in New Zealand for for men, women was angles. The sports look at the benefits beyond how much money and event like this may because some of them dark. Some of them don't make money. The women's rugby would cap you know how much money will let put back into the economy this saying three point six million by an accommodation nights, but again we don't know how covid nineteen. Is going to feet the at and This is an interesting thing to that. They sports again heff defector that end now it does sort of feel like new. Zealand is kind of positioning itself in a a really promising kind area, a hub for women's spores. You know going into the future is is a a place that really values women's sport does a lot of too big it in this could be as soon of nation. Entertainment Niche. because. Yeah We'd all love to think. But. Realistic night. Can you see US topping this? Three World Cups in three years. How do you follow on from there? And We won't get out chance again for for a long time, because these things are cyclic, and they move between the Northern Hemisphere in the Southern Hemisphere! Sorry I think the timing with this Wisconsin magical. But again it's because New Zealand. Becks it's women's Sport. And, we've seen it with the government, you know. They put ten million dollars into and promoting women, Gills and sport three years. That was grant Robertson's priority when he became sports minister was that he was going to grow women's sport here. And so it all ties in really nicely. But it isn't just am Syrian deputy. This didn't happen. You know it's because. I think with each successful bid to that must make other sports go. Hey, you know we could do this. We could try and get this if we can get the government behind us if we can get the right people behind us. We could host a world cap turn and. I think it's it's head. That's momentum that snowballing affect the fight for women's equality in many respects. Has Only just begun. But. There's one way to show the world. Just what women are capable love. Through the power of sport. Yet today. Only four percent of all sports coverage features female athletes. Which means so many great stories epic stories. Moving Stories Important stories. Ones with potential do inspire. The next generation aren't being told. You the editor of Locker Room. Tell me a bit about the the big story of looking around like why. Why was it established in the first place? I was working at newsroom as a kind of general reporter that first year and I'd say a story on stuff. Quoting Kieran Smith the heat of the New Zealand Olympic Committee saying that coverage of Women's Sport in New Zealand was horrendous. And I. Seem to Neymar to my to that newsroom. With the link to that story. This was we could do. And there was no response to wait. Oh. Let down really well. And then Timothy rang me and now about this email. Oh God! What and they said. Yeah, we do it. We can do it. Let's just go all out. One sport is just. Otherwise Joe King because those you really. You think he was joking. Like. This is a law in itself and thirty years of working most of that time as a sports gene us, I could never have seen this coming. But because newsroom room is small, nimble at can do things like that and. I'm so thankful to him that. He came up with idea I'd love to say it was my idea, but I can't. And so he do Stewart in two weeks later we were up and running at the time I wondered if that was that irresponsible that we should have spent more time building it up and and looking for sponsors, but I think it was the right thing to do. We kind of just went out there and start at it, and the initial response was great people. You know this is cold and the thing that really surprised me. Was I seriously thought that. Big companies would want to sponsor something like that that you know. They'd WanNa get behind women's sport. And Eighteen months we knocked on the doors of big companies who've thought would have an alignment with women's Sport and you know. He went away empty-handed every time and then sky sport sort as Part of the responsibility, the push to promote women's Sport and Year we've been really fortunate. It meant that the most important thing. For us with sponsorship was to give a young woman generalist a chance. To weaken sports journalism this very few of them, you know when I was at the hero for ten years and Spruce Ramat I was the only woman. They've never had more than one woman the. And it's very hard to find on sports. Journalists throughout New Zealand now, so yeah, we now have actually Stanley working for us. And she's getting laid. Opportunity and I kinda think that's my Give back to this toes. The you know I can help me into. Another woman sports, journalists and UCLA. Ellison normally on the Heke. Guy, and this isn't really my, but I'm not I'm not happy today. I'm not happy that we saw used to as a as competition, not even having the dignity of a question being asked about what's going on us. So what is going on because right now? The science the science is defending, and nobody is making. The rockets were asked. Nobody is asking the questions. Hey, he ran museum rugby. What is going on? What are we supposed to be doing right now? Gives, you should have been getting ready for. What. Where gives to a supposed to getting a World Cup? What am I doing? What kills? You should be getting ready for. What am I doing? What am I doing? What am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to white? Am I supposed to sit on my hands and be quiet. Because you guys, you will shit, you will hype shut. You will come out to get when we succeed, but right now we're in the middle of another challenge, and we're invisible as usual so hey. What's going on, but the tone of the sports media the question. Locker Room. Is described on its facebook page. Flooded I write self-described facebook pages Is Quite devoted to promoting New Zealand. Women in sport. In which is. I, think a really interesting intense because I'm curious D-. Do you see yourself as a sports journalist like a sports reporter or as an advocate for women's sport or a blurring the lines? That is a really good question I think I started off same as a sports journalist and does lines have blurred. and. I'm not. I'm not a I don't see myself as a great advocate for women's Sport and I don't say that in a bad way. I see myself as telling stories that bank told. That help. To Grow Woman Sport So it's it is. It's a crossover really but. If that can help. To get more women in girls, playing sport or to get more guys interested in women's Sport. Then I think that's a good thing that's that's what I'm trying to in a roundabout way. The lack of coverage of women's Sport in the meteors pretty well publicized thing, but the scale and scope over. The even sorry of reading up on it for a couple of days in the Scotland Scott is really quite staggering. You know I think something like five percent of newspaper. Reported as the the Cabinet Women's sports most lighting. Of Broadcasting. which which actually puts us up among the leaders in the world, believe it or not are. UNBELIEVABLY YEAH! What's the problem? I see it as not. Enough Women in. decision-making rose. And I think that's also across sport and New Zealand. You know I. IT needs to be women making the decisions about what's covered. And of course you know women's foot- doesn't have to be covered by women. Anybody can write stories about women. It just. Interesting stories if he's got a story to tell the same sports, competition can be experienced in different ways depending on whether you're man or woman, listen carefully. I won the gold medal hardly sleep until. Basically everything I. was trying to my training. And I could be powder himself. was on the cover of all the magazines. They need him the golden catch. Victory I felt so disappointed I couldn't believe it. It's time. The media gave women athletes the coverage. They deserve this World Radio Day, UNESCO and your local radio station joined together to make sure that all athletes are covered equally from Tony Bruce from the University of alternate with you familiar. I'm his a lot of work in this area of media coverage. Of Sport and she actually made the observation that pace last year that while overall coverage of women's sport might be increasing. If you just look at column inches, one of the issues is that there is a Mesa element to it with a Lotta paces along the lines of. Like is an great how women's? Sport is taking off in a I'm curious your thoughts on that as well as we the at a certain point that Clinton narrative becomes counterproductive. Yeah. I agree. And you know I. Say a lot of stories along those lines. That I. Guess the the issues based you know. Why isn't they more women's fourth coverage? Wise the more. Money being put into women's Sport we in to me. We should just be doing. It is the question of whether to certain point that narrative because patronizing. You know if you've covering sporting really self-referential con of. With the Ho- elephant in the room. Being Women's Sport is under reported and we reporting on Women's Sport Yeah. It must put you in an interesting position in I. Mean You you talking about the death of sports, journalists and he's before. Some of New Zealand's theory sports journalists at the moment are women. Manager Hanson's the. Race Alison. Of course you're the ribbon to Hunia. You know another one of the reasons that. There isn't as match women's sports coverage as the squeezing of of column inches. Newspapers When I was at the New Zealand enrolled in the One Thousand Nine Hundred Ninety S. Monday morning sports section would be. Ten pages and I might have five stories in the and now you look at. The New Zealand Herald and it's down to tape with size and. It's down to two pages a day. And you know part of that is because of covert, and that is not a lot of support happening. But He was seeing a real squeeze on. Room that you can, you can tell stories and in a lot of situations. Women's boot doesn't take priority. And you make it a news bulletin without a Woman's sports story. We saw the demise to. Sports and covered thanks for much the back Kelly for producing a program, the ready I spoke preface. Stay safe today for Monday. We will rejoin you tomorrow from six am. John Signing off yesterday on? Radio sports about there will be no more Tamara Radio Sport has been taken off ear and differently envied me. Which owns the station pointed to the cancellation and suspension of virtually all local national and international events and competitions, which was a really really sad thing and. Finally enough I have a son who's Radio School, who? It was a string two-wicket radio, sport And you know schooling him up on telling women's sports stories. I. Don't know if he would've. But it's would if he wanted dinner exactly. Yeah, it's really really sad that we no longer have that Brit of opportunity. To Broadcast and publish sport. Alon Woman Sport Sport is interesting right and that sport is a lot of things. United is a business. Sport is a way to get. That health speak to is a community participation. Speak to it in a country like New Zealand. It forms part of our national identity I would say in set lately that it's also a big cultural institution in many countries around the newshound again being a good example of this, but some I look at what's happening particularly women with the bone and say this is this is much tuning into a political issue or a social issue and I sang. People want say starting politics don't mix yeah. I think it's really important socialist year and that whole. Sport. For fitness. For our health and well-being. Sport also to build communities I think that's really really important, and I think we sometimes forget about that. That grassroots sport holds communities together in a lot of situations specially at the moment. And you know we Kinda willed leaders right now and getting sport playing again when you look at Nipple. It's they had premiership. Here is now in its third week and. As far as I know, it's. The was the first women's sport in the world to have crowds again and so. Sports Nipple and Brag be starting again football. People recognize that this is really important to lift the morale of country as well. aimed. At S-. Not all about you know winning meadows and bringing home. We'll caps it's. About? Making us all feel good. Feel like we're nation week into either. As we did for Darcus that you know these these just I'm many elements to it like you said. That It's a really healthy thing to have in in your community and mindful their. Three World Cups and then threes actually now that I think about it. What do you hope comes out of these tournaments what they achieve in in the domain of Women's sports? First of all I'd like New Zealanders to go and watch. I want theme to embrace. Women's Sport to see it for what it is that it's entertaining. Thet. It's enlightening that it's important. I. Want More Google's to get active to get playing sport. I want the women and teams with you know from Zimbabwe or Poland or New Zealand. To be role models. To these young girls and boys. Just. To be seen as good people. And I'd like New Zealand to come out of this looking like we were later. And promoting the interests of women. Not Just in sport across the board. Because we are, and the world is starting to say that now. Do you think the we are world leaders in the area? I mean we say to ourselves? D-. What that a lot of countries tell us that we are? It's really had. I mean. We lead the way with. Women's pipe parody and football. It was huge. Sign with crooked and. So. Yeah, I, I think we are among. The front runners, and and the Women's sports movement. And we're pretty little country in it. It's a pretty. Big Responsibility. And They today I'm Donovan. The detail is brought to you. By newsroom dot zied made possible by our insead and inside on get downloaded free to your mobile device every weekday from any podcast platform. If you using apple, please leave us a raiding. Other people can find us to. Today's episode was engineered by Ronnie Poet and produced by Russell and thanks to Susan. McFadden Khaki down.

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"The Paul Finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the capital one sabre card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores and one percent on all all other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply cried passion and pageantry of of college football leaves here the the Paul Finebaum show our four podcast the final hour or has arrived and it has been a spectacular day here in Lexington. We're not done yet we have the best for last. Marcus Spears dorning the set yet as well as Marty Smith who will be hosting SEC nation Mara great man bring it. It's a lot it's a lot favorites ebbert segment of Diana's kickback. We have our own. I liked the new graphics on the highway. I walked on the bus and saw it. I thought it was in three d look at that gorgeous background now. Hey Yeah. This is a pretty campus so it's nice. It's a beautiful campus. It is nice. What's everybody calling and talking to you about today. Kentucky Fans Talkin when smacks Florida fans. I Kentucky doesn't exist Joe. Borough won the heisman this afternoon. Oh God Alabama fans are wondering if anybody notices racist. They're still playing football. The Usual Sec week no doubt. I don't even know where to go. I don't even know where we are right now. Let's start here. Sa- good matchup is intriguing. I would love for Terry Wilson. That'd be available to win this game aim just because of the experience he had last year in the swamp but with that being said we'll see what Sawyer Smith has is. One of the best defense is he'll play all season long so I'm really looking forward to seeing how he responds and then San Felipe again. I guess a good defense. Yeah I want to ask you about Felipe because we were down in Orlando three weeks ago. We we all walked out of there wondering which way he was going yeah we expected him to be a lot better in that in and at first matchup and then they start to kind of level off and make sense because we saw a lot of really good quarterback struggle week one so you couldn't really get into the performance what I will say is and obviously it's been been like a dead horse but the level of maturity fully bay is he he has the this is my opinion. He has a stop taking things so personally and just kind of stick to his job do what he do. He's a very talented kid. Has a lot of the measurable has the ability to be a really good quarterback. I think just sometimes he's paying attention to more than the game and it seems like he gets out of his element element when he does he go. I go back to when we were at camping world in Orlando. He went and talked to the crowd and then the next series threw an interception and and the camera yeah it's interesting to me spears because I was down there in Gainesville with Philippa before weeks zero before they face the canes and that was the entire premise of the interview the entire premise of the interview was you got booed off your home field and then you come back and you lead them to victory and you're you know you're in your own crowd and that whole thing and what were the emotions involved in that experience for you and how have you grown from that and his response to me was that he had learned selflessness rather other than selfishness and had learned how to lead a team and be that type of Alpha and you know then we we kind of saw what happened against Miami I think if he's able to maintain his composure and able to stay within himself from that perspective he can be a really good player but I do think that he lets that manipulate his middle focus and approach to the game but he also did was we all in this business in our business. When when you're athlete you plant in front of millions of people the moment you let them know it matters to you what they say about you. That's at the end you basically done after that point because now all the people that move awfully pay the people that are talking about him and his maturity they know that like somewhere they're taking a real estate in his mind and immediately when you let people know that they will go to the extreme so his his biggest deploy of defense against stat is just going ball and being quiet about it and some people who listen as long as football has been played players listen to people the medium is is different now where you can find out instantly which we all know but I want you to try to describe now you talk to these players and try to tell them but can you communicate with players nowadays to get them off this and pay attention to what Paul is the craziest dynamic. I mean you you know I'm doing a lot of stuff in the NFL this year and talked to guys in pro locker rooms teammates chicken twitter at halftime. That's ridiculous. Diculeng when when you think about like you said the media has changed but here's the deal the successful ones usually they don't buy into it look for athletes. There have always been ways to know if people are talking good or bad about you because it's a polarizing job or polarizing the thing that you're doing so what the back in the time when we were playing it was the media and people locally and the local newspaper you knew of you were performing well or not but the the Mo like I said this is like a message to all these kids and even professional athletes the moment you let people know that they take into real estate in your mine. It's ultimately insecurity yeah. It's really pretty fundamental but nothing wrong with that Marty everybody here book about being insecure and I have no qualms admitting my insecurities. The thing is when you do give them that credibility the end wing you care and when you openly show that you care it is giving them credibility for their criticism which ultimately has no bearing on what your coaches think of you what your teammates think of you and how you play the game. That's it. I I know all that but tomorrow. It's going to happen again Felipe. It doesn't have a good game. He'll be consume. What everyone is saying well. He has to play will ause is your for them to win but but it's your choice to to how it affects you right the moment you get into thinking that you can change their air mind and the narrative. That's when you go down a rabbit hole. That is never ending right so is that part of it. We all care about our performance form. We all care about if people are have respect for how we perform it but sports all the time it is that dynamic where you can literally walk into your facility or your locker room the next day and find out if you did your job effectively in that people put in the news. Don't need to tell you that no Monday film review sessions on Sunday in a week that has been dominated by one player Antonio Brown his his reaction Marcus his performance on social media after he got to try and I realized the complexities are much more serious but I I'm really interested in what in college players when they're watching him. What are they seeing and how they reacted it depends on it depends on their makeup echo. I don't give an more. They'll let you speak to this. I don't give credibility that guys one emulate guys in their personal life I don't I don't really buy into that narrative right if if you if a kid that doc plays football tells me they want to be Antonio Brown I'm thinking they talking about how they play football right here right. I'm not thinking about how his antics and all of that right but the reality is you got some kids looking emulate every single thing that they're star or idle player does and I think it's very important for the people close to whoever they're individually as the let them know you not that. You're not that got whether that's negative of a positive. I'm sure there's a lot a lot of guys WANNA be. Tom Brady at quarterback right but somebody has to tell them. No you beat the Best Marty Smith or you'd be the best Paul Finebaum ma-margaret spheres and see where it takes you but I think we've got into a place in society where we were now. We will these dues to raise our kids kids. We won't what they doing to have more of a positive impact on the people around him daily and being a father. That's closer to me youtube more more like I don't. I mean I want my son to WANNA be Marcus Spears junior period. Whatever that is my loves the dance right everybody would expect him to play spoiler here. He wanted to dance so I say if you go dead right so I just think I we get in a very bad area. When we let our kids just look and say oh I want to be that guy I think the have have fostered a false reality for our young people and that's not just this college as young men like Felipe or Antonio or anybody else. It's offered a sort of a sort of certain license to to disseminate what you want to how you want to consume what you want to how you want to let that manipulate lay your mind and and it worries me as a father to Marcus's point I have thirteen ten and seven at home and they love to watch youtube. They love to consume. That stuff. Avenue tries apparent to tell them that's not real what you see on instagram ain't real it's fake book book and what you what we're trying to instill within you is what we hope you take with more difficult you successful is what what made Mardi successful swell made myself and people of the people in every facet of life however you deem success not about about how much money you make it or how many people know you how many followers you have or you being the best and most honest to yourself that like every regret person. I've met that's been the commonality which logistically individuals right and they know that it takes a lot the people to help them get to where they are but they don't sacrifice who they are to appease the masses people get pissed off all the time. Paul you know that they I know you know uh sheriff but they but they respect that you are who you are every day. I mean you and I had a million conversations right right and some things I haven't seen. I would chew it. You mean vice versa but we respect each other's individuality respect how we approach it and I think that's what that's what social media distorts because as soon as we see that forty thousand people like what we say then we begin to look for the six they didn't like it. I'll share this crazy man. I shared with Philippa when I was with him that one of my deepest insecurities that is that I like to be liked if I have have a sense that someone has disdain toward me it will shut me down and I told him that he should not take and I can sense that in him. He's likes likes to be liked and I told him dude. You're wasting so much time and so much energy and you know who really snapped me out of that Tibo. I was with him last year. Last fall. We did a veterans day initiative together and I was having a pity party because I felt like some things in my life were going down the path that I had foreseen for myself and he said up in the airplane and he pointed right at me and he said nobody defines your life. Only you define your life. They don't have that right and it was such an amazing mazing moment of clarity for me. That's the real. Did you expect to have that conversation. No the difference between between me you until they really gave a damn if they like a little more. No one has ever liked me so I didn't have like you Paul fantastic conversation. We'll see you tomorrow morning and we will see all of view and turn air conditioner in Lexington. Somebody flees it. We'll be right back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We we walk me back. We're so glad you're with us. We're going to try to finish strong here with the number of calls. Let's go to chuck in New York as we begin the final couple of the Lexington. Hey Chuck what's up. I got two subjects to speak about the first one is Lsu Alabama. I think that's a game of the year and if Lsu wins game even if they have one loss. I got them making the playoffs. How do you how how do you explain that one well. They beat Alabama and they have one loss. I still think they'll get in the playoffs. Well well listen. That's an easy thing to say towns grade but you better figure out what everyone else is doing because if if Clemson's already in which I think they are and and let's say Michigan or Ohio state run the table like Notre Dame lift or Oklahoma Texas than there's no room at the end right right. The other thing I wanted to say is the Syracuse Clemson game in order for Syracuse to make a game out of it. It's gotTa be the lowest scoring game that most people predict because you can't get in the shootout. Were Clemson expect to you know do good. You know what I'm saying. Yeah Well Listen I. I WanNa believe that's going to be an interesting game. I can't wait to watch it because I WANNA see I wanna see clinically tested by the second best team on on their schedule which is not very good. Hey thanks chuck great. Big Joe is up next. Hey Joe Welcome to our program Paul. How you doing buddy well. Thank you very much. I'm sitting down here watching your show on the beautiful Lake Cumberland. I'm a UK Alumna in in a season ticket holder for about fifteen years and looking forward to taking my family to Commonwealth Stadium Kroger Field Tomorrow to you are in that respect with the U. K. Win Over Florida. Yeah I think it's really important and I'm not saying that Kentucky Loses and goes seven even five or eight and four that it's going to be a cataclysmic event but I think a win tomorrow and try disrespecting this program Monday. You're not you're not going to be able to well I have a lot of faith in this backup quarterback the main question. I still have and I hope they come through as Arjan defensive back the over with the coach bill the mark stoops being that guy is I think the hill man. NBC's coaching ability to pay thank you very very much. It's Friday afternoon that can mean only one thing. Chris is next from Gulf shores. What's that no my brother Chris. What is up my man well. I hate to hear that a Matt Eighty Mahoney Aka Eddie money today you remember the old L. L. Crossroad robot. Do Okay call him perform. They're not think seventy eight third issue the health the hell show I'll give it daily Dan get for Thong was number one on this day and night thing seventy four nine thousand nine hundred seventy four that would be let me think it's not Deacon Blues. I can't even seventy six seven early. That was a Rikki. Don't lose. That number was the year before while you know that that's the ricky replicate seventy-three my brother okay. That was what I was thinking about why I got confused because there's a Deacon Deacon on Asia yes that was that was seventy-seven right they call Alabama the crimson tide and they call and they weaken blue. We did a show would do it again. What are these days one of those which one died becker or the other. Guy Becker welcome back. I've been wanting to get both those guys on the you can do the year's worth of conversation on on the on the Genesis of Deacon Blue's and I think I think I finally figured it out and you probably know the story pretty well as well. Oh Oh yeah and of course we all know where the name steely Dan came from. Yes we do saying Chris. You've got kids and even though you're married again at seventy eight you're still pretty funny. Thank you very much. Hey by the way I just wanted to a shout out to David from Clinton South Carolina. We were sitting in a hotel and Gatlinburg last week waiting for number one to get married the next day met that Bella didn't it never met him before and we ended up by each other drank and he said that is favourite. TV Show was the Paul Paul Finebaum ship. Wow Yeah it. It is a small world by the way we drove down into. Not Vegas an eight at a breakfast at the White House. There were a lot of long lived there. I I thank you earlier when we had Kevin Richardson on Kevin Richardson Kevin Hart. Who is the again? I knew your set you up that cavern. Richardson is one of the vocalists for backstreet boys always. I know that's not exactly your genre but I did. I did work. I did work one of their performances that the BJ the back in the day back on this. Here's the whole purpose of the story he was here early he was by this. He's a UK Okay Fan. Have they ever show tonight in Louisville and it really blew me away. Listen I'd familiar with the backstreet boys. I wasn't I wasn't he he did he. He did not like when I called them a boy band by the way they were but he told me he lives in. La a nearly every day when he's home. He'll have lunch and watch this show that that made me. I don't know what that made me feel. I mean the idea that Kevin Richardson and Harper Lee may have been watching and listening to this show the same time blows me away the Gila Gila blackbird and and all day long. I've been hearing fans whether the the the the Harley story hit the Wall Street Journal newsprint today and people more saying that she really listened to the show going. How do I know but but you know it really isn't that surprising when you think about she's an Alabama fan. She lives in Monroeville Bill Alabama. She died a couple of years ago for those who don't know why wouldn't you listen to the show and who lived right down the street from Truman Capote. Tell only we got some literary class. In this state might grow listen. There have been a dozen books written about Truman capote writing to Kendall bird well. I mean you know we we ain't Truman capote was Obama Fan. I thank you was Truman Capote fan that he was among other things things that we won't go into because it's a family show and I know I've got to show respect and I can't tell any of the tall tales that I got to tell back a- as a certain federal expose when he show and good yeah no. This show is terrible. It's a family show now and now we're going to listen to Asia all night. It's it's it's on my phone just to sound young well. I've I've the D. and I we'll crank it up. You're in a I. I'll tell you what if you could get Donald Fagan on your show now. That would be the coup of all happened. Uh I'm going to get him because I determined to do a I just think it's such a fascinating story because steely. Dan Is is a song that has lived on now offer what forty year yeah I mean and it's and when it came out serventi seven Alabama do they followed it up with back-to-back. Nashville and lot of people always wake wake forest connection to because of the Deacon it but anyway if anyone knows Donald Fagan and I don't I've never met him. I've been to his concerts. Please get in touch with him for me. We want to do that show and he'll he'll benefit unfit greatly by donald really needs money at this point in his career glad lately how don't drink don't drink any bourbon and while you're in Kentucky because that famous bed from tablet lower Alabama like that they do what you WanNa do Wiki and baby it. It is the weekend then Chris official. Thanks Chris appreciate the call. We have thirty minutes to go and we are coming right back. You're listening getting to the Paul. Finebaum show podcast welcome back how we our final thirty minutes in Lexington on what has been an unusually warm day for the middle of Kentucky got sick grab. More phone calls here the rest of the way at eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We've had an amazing list of guest but no more it's all yours the rest of the way William in Maryville Tennessee. How Are you William We. I mean they're paging. William Bill. Okay we'll move on to various is up next in Florida hello to various. It's going great. Thank you a love the show is that okay with you. Okay absolutely I one I got gators winning thirty four Seventeen Alexa to them got getting enough credit must go eleven and one is share my second point is I think we should the whole all the praise on Lsu but I haven't played any contenders yet. They played mostly law schools with school but also have a pack of defense. No pet don't pay decent and we've seen what happened the job era when he came to the swamp worship thera point is you know belief as a kid you know media they tear them down but you gotta understand you fix it games twelve and twelve touchdowns two of the sections. I think you have the the table I think Dan Balloons and a great job with him and I think a lot of people speaking on a gain of this shit so I do want to make a few points to come on his show and talk to those awesome a really interesting point I think I think the metrics do favor Florida's game. I do think there was some intangibles. There's so many unknowns uh-huh about Kentucky right now so I liked what you said though thank you very much for sharing appreciate it. Fred is up next in Louisiana. Hello Fred Welcome to the program Bob. Thanks for the call. Thank the first time college well. Thank you great to have you. Yes sir. Thank you I just want like apologize. All all the people that you're all week long and he got a long way to go go borough not near winning is yet and we've got a bunch of games to play before we in in the playoff that they believe bracket out all that I know we got a good thing. Yes ofo played good Saturday but you got a long way together. I'm with you lose. Well listen. I think the fans are great eight. they have a lot to be excited about hasn't bothered me one bit with anyone who said. I mean I do think there's always an overreaction either. Positively typically are negatively when you win a game and by the way not only fans everywhere. I've been it was in New York couple of days and every every analyst around was just going Gaga. Go over over Joe and the reason I mean he's he's. I'm how I'm a huge fan of Joe Borough. Those of you who watched the Media Day saw me just just lock into him because I love his confidence and I love everything about him and I hope he wins the heisman but you can't win the heisman on the second weekend of the year no absolutely not absolutely not I'm with you on that he had played equity and I'm a I'm a big time big time. Lsu Fan but we got along along with go. They will great to have you on the show. Thank you very much Red Georgia Georgia. You're on the air good name. Thank you for sharing a phone. Call Hallways Olympic okay. Hey Gordon deal and finally be Alabama. Get well. It's so interesting when you have. LSU Fans who are trying to figure that out you Georgia fans I mean I don't know right now. I think I think the obvious answer is to finish each the game and I don't WanNa go through chapter and verse what we already know for the last two years but that's really been the problem. I think Georgia had the better team two years ago. You don't think there's any question about that last year. They probably didn't but they still outplayed. I mean it doesn't matter if you coach your I'll play a team for thirty or I'm forty minutes if you don't do it when when the game ends it really doesn't matter and that's really been Georgia's problems so it's as simple as finishing the job our our backup quarterback George. He's my quarterback. It's pretty cool air going good and thank you very much great to hear from you. Yup You got Kevin is up next in Kentucky Good Afternoon Kevin. Hey Paul thanks to take McCall. Thank you very much for your what you'll get banned from your certain. I'll be perfectly honest with you. I don't know the answer to that. I love Jones. He's one of my favorite guests and he's not on tonight so go figure that one out things get hurt. I Don t giving your line. I try to be as transparent as anybody can be. If it were up to me Matt would have sat here for two hours with me today but he's not here so I'm not passing the buck. I'm not blaming anyone ultimately. I am responsible for this show. I would have liked to have had Matt Jones on the program today. We'll take a short break. Your phone calls continue after this.

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20190704 The Nicole Sandler Show - Hey Baby, It's the Fourth of July

The Nicole Sandler Show

1:01:30 hr | 1 year ago

20190704 The Nicole Sandler Show - Hey Baby, It's the Fourth of July

"Welcome to a special fourth of july musical edition of the nicole sandler show the fourth of july independence day isn't american holiday no not usually a politically one until now this country is in that state which sort of sets the tone for today's musical offering will begin the musical salute to america with the song by paul simon metres relevant today as it was back in nineteen seventy three when it was first release of an american to mm many to be nasty yeah man he when you double team to be in me to answer any misusing all i'm alright memorial day jerks we do love boone billy joel stats that guy down the road so from new ways to to three term mm i don't know been bad and i don't know how do you know do transfers binge a two door dreyer to rename well but a right to oh well so when they're gone way jab time were go whoa okay now what school and i know guy answer a dream that loves to learn that really bad down in smile cheese and in a team dollars by a boat grow right when there is that luminaries fees andrew nine sliders perry como she did they call slow going all share that san you do when we get to that in man oh it's all around a journey now through june or is the model go we know to be a toronto is you knew that god is a woman a no no no no no no a sandy fireworks grilling world news and i don't like the end zone those the it's only eighty nine dollars more john line down in the dumbest circuit well rain low fat shaming still shower wizards breaking down long balls are known for a long way down bars somewhat casino dance shirts open like latin love stone sure she's gonna end up paying man has died in a car on the three then be people who may not be a day where they can snap a in my hands on and they're not around the green by south street guess bus what's going on me john campbell and i why to me a guy hanging them josh and they are banging national's three girls learn more drama has now burned say no to the world around us style strike last night much shirt kevin this man thank god damn damn a calm down this man died in a car in a bar or we and then led the way or a dog now guard man then you're going to nine nine ninety nine a day in the end that wages ballots being lost to design me last night did shoot the others fell by me that john and she will stop down big radio city last night she just she went on they were selling food then main room all this me too damn bad the bottom line for a man they made their way yeah yeah so the next time they're gonna be looking at you know there's a lot of information to know when you're gonna wanna do in life face the new leaders or anything will give you kill questioning authority coal sandler show while thing going all these days he got something going on in america let's call this news patriot to learn it's almost like the danger just to me it looks like the live national is you know i got it right now they were patriotism is all about about accepting everything here on television the government tells you that it being a good patriots we had a good patriot means you question every mother fucker everywhere every time make sure your country stays country and they don't stop there memory world community is story about parties no loyalty to the party of the loyalty to the truth like we don't like saying the us change things politics ain't nothing to be scared of the test freedom human rights democracy that's all about that's right we're the rights is right here right everybody just don't lose the you know when you when you realize oh my i went down by you a john monotone dot com and download our podcast on when they were down so loud that a good thing oh my god i'm sure i want i want you doing really really well read burgers on all the time now is five oh no no no no no no i know i know we talked a little guy you know where you you know there's always well you know what i'm that's little season yeah stephen advance of the sopranos theme from a non springsteen fans out there from nineteen eighty four with a live performance of i am patriot stevens at wrote that song though it's most famous and its version is covered by jackson browne but i wanna play this version today because the van zandt ethic introduction to the song which again remains is relevant today they is it was back in nineteen eighty four we also heard fourth of july asbury park from bruce springsteen's first album greetings from asbury park new jersey and got the show started with paul simon's very sad but true an american tune tune i think we need to lighten the tone a bit so will continue with the song recorded live at net roots nation in minneapolis in two thousand eleven it's just so buell on the nicole sandler fourth of july musical celebration mm san juan romero tells us that a that a maverick up that when they say why not real never never looked back what do they may remember that god in the need done before he hung out with that snake you could walk down the street not worry about things all the kids don't trade good treating then those da common then like those german since seventeen ninety then v irish still ride the put say then they started changing live was dead we list right life had okay let's say why when they say we all know that we worked the america that i mm a sideline and that statue we got from the french and that whole still alerting the strangers she's flirting inviting them into law that the guinea pool is the lead back to the gay let's read and who woman looks like kids in the one who is cleaning mine and life was right just lights was cleans sent them back gay men when they say on the back of marital fats are on the back when they wanna really never felt that was me for the happy agenda before well the slaves were free before that man from ken yeah well let's see we wanna come back from marathon back from them read come back when we come back this is jackson browne you listen to the polls show hey this is a drop of providing you got my buddy my longtime friend the lovely nicole sandler i this donald fagan the walter becker you know steely dan and you're listening to nicole sandler district selector john monson generals and we are semi simon you're listening to the coal sandler hi this is melissa ethridge and you're listening in my friends because you're not isn't there mileage nearly the nickel inside the everybody this time and the train you're listening to nicole sandler my on air personality plus we've got the nicole sandler show music to my ears and and mayor shane would i mean these are known for people to be willing to lie ready to buy a new or a little girl in a low will be near the bottom line and the anger anger at the underlie due to the strong lie he told me good word on the door after eat only eighty nine dollars per share their a driver in a manner came along by slow and go can we not the person who answers furniture made in the lie in other words i mean the guy was a new lows drop down a la la la ball she she she can do this while the la lakers guy change change andy but she she could be a guy that a woman the no no no no you know the truth be told to stay in the game and got some real estate in a so don man this is mad dog to the storms they can be angry shoop is just like the dream let me know and it took me but they did get a car into a big games with the the the the new yeah but he was right let me tell a don't go read a thing that storm is a great place to live was you know so i love that just saying she read a magazine i know you'll see a do they can do what he should do this game yeah so why john just look a domino you know that they love f a ran a you know a simon and garfunkel america on this special musical fourth of july edition of the nicole sandler show it was a great band x out of loss angeles with fourth of july and jill some you'll what the songs see debuted at net roots nation in two thousand eleven when we call america back i loved introduce people to music and artists they may not be familiar with so here are a few starting with a guy named francis donor murray who made a name for himself touring with robert plant as his league guitarist yeah that means playing all the jimmy page led zeppelin parts from his first album fearless this is francis done every american life in the summertime roger you know you know these new people there'll be a day where you're not downtown at two thirty one man was drawn the green new deal go to a bowl game was his old lo and behold there the number of days but they're johnny donny donny don dirty got over it but i don't believe in god nine dollars and get your hallway time radicalized don't let them do their thing when america why now american why why were they broke the news we would be blown the new law may do doing nothing earlier the minimum wage you blonde hair there's a guy bottle up till now available on while died on saturday saturday go back to the show got a motor they gotta stop you gotta go to blaze tv all the would you go by by by that does not say don don don don all the way to yeah i'm barry nelson number nine may stay hot it's being called by someone else did what lane backed up by dry brush up a bond on to bigger way i wanna may not be like them i just wanna go home early calling me national guard larry what do we learn more i am a we are live in the car that there was a rumor well i don't look all that ragged overall driving ban over the weekend on the deep anywhere most famous respite ben ben this year's state inspection i just bear won't you drive across the country for this year could be on a nominee to see in rome locomotive from the day then she gave me a book about god damn road going durant rusty alderman dream in a room though some good choice bank to spin being spent three days in the show room battle on their the way america very good oh he'll only so have no we oh lord what's your money down and get me out of the main sales ben rhodes locomotive from the day she gave me now both failed oh god all broke through in steel man to harm me the young man told him one well there's room for well do you view the rest of my life don't let me hear a little joan me some jews to not bad dream that all governors pin me but really read live in miami pam pam room locomotive you can promise macaroni so we can't fly to the nuns said rusty oh man you drain rodeo ruder coal sandler show a to ball you just your car's she goes a long way great long boomer chan man some shit zone when i shot do do you just saw he is really a bad man a rick l a guy who was a no man i am a maverick girl three around that good the drugs we need talk to me the shy the wrong thing to i know i know i should have read your it's not about wild to me that won't be the where i'm no west how loud day in some merit got her mother died in us been around around barreling down through the cheese let's just dry tomorrow will be a narrow yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you gotta know plowing the plan not just seems all jimmy everyone is the me no i know we your first stop jay no no someone in baby mama mama come down no no narrow down but you know that's got to be a hero where yeah news yeah yeah yeah yeah well there you go yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they're they're in their shrouded sharada on the trainer there now barda that song there try try that out there that gets a four year deal the answer the moreover real lover or calling the basketball the ballgame knocked down by brad sham i'm wayne brown all year long don but they all survive while you're alive burn you haven't got time we are you know i'll man down through your cattle down down down down now down down down down all day all day long as they are all that's a band called my biting no it's actually one guy named john on draw sick with the title track of his album america town cab molo real named kevin more but he goes by kevin go with that great acoustic bluesy rendition of america the beautiful david wilcox gave us rusty old american dream and before that it was francis gunnery with american life in the summertime i'm nicole sandler as you've surmise this is a special musical edition of the nicole sandler show celebrating the fourth of july with with the some songs that you may know in some you may not know i could have probably done most of our featuring just bruce springsteen song at work with a fourth of july theme and who knows we may still have time for one more but i just had to get this one in its from his first live album nineteen seventy five to eighty five woody guthrie song that bruce has been performing for decades has a book out right now it's real life is stolen named joe climb in a really really great book and this is a song with originally it was written is angry song with the answer urban belinda just real god bless america and and the song was written as the answer that so yeah there's about one of the most beautiful longer written anyone do morning we're all new river i saw you know this guy i saw the way the well this may be a phone number i followed my dad's a smart man and all around me more to draw you say this line which may louis line in the slanders rooting for news in new york carl lewis one other story changed a man who knows how to avoid one it's the father but this may slime manziel really a on a dream a oh oh was uniquely they but then turn on trump so by the way men and they don't know what they may they may not man man can make my show man and i lost my mind i re i am not the baghdad annual make asian man we are live today i can see it any way anti when did they did they made a leg betray me and told me one day you'll now look this line but you know down the note on my way to make sure that man engage young man who died by by by getting that is not a day that man man made great young man who i will be alive today can anyway you i would my immigration blown me you know the gaping hole why not go when the man to go as but you think it can you gotta watch job job don anyway your dog man man man made great young man i got the lineup right you're paying the bottom the drag that man every day show man along those lines today again be then you angelo all the lower level do do do do do do well i know luding english but i'd like to make america great again you'll give my the only two minutes we're going to get the thing that's bad news chips to let's make america great again buying banking right now they're saying that gas when they come time in red bank a merit pay grade i guess maybe i need to say you're drawn from turned on by the monthly jobs drawn a lot more drama mattering do man i know they know they made sure that it can be in the bank of america again you know by making way then pay cash and they make joe biden has died in a plane maverick ranger news we one game on but they can't do anything like that but i'm talking about that that's a song from last year by british artist frank turner called make america great again obviously about the current occupant of the white house from a british perspective and another song from decades ago that's topical today it was gram nash in immigration man at of course bruce springsteen's live rendition of woody guthrie this land is your land it's sort of a un off the beaten path collection of songs as we celebrate the fourth of july today with a special musical edition of the nicole sandler show on the podcast and the progressive voices network we've time for a couple more now this is one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite artists under appreciated though he may be even use the song for a while as they opening theme from my radio show it's joe jackson and it's called right and wrong and maybe we can squeeze in one more after that anyway i'll be back here tomorrow live for friday show to wrap up the week in the meantime how they safe safe and happy fourth of july they're just solve every five harbor three big band illustrated woodcock those who are both won the day down lawyers were by june bug is not the they're not talking no no don't do that why do you say good so what's the years i think he's mad about later more out for a while that you don't know what to and they were better news in a really bad enough you live to the bathroom shoes how do you talk about all right man donors san man thousand dollars by the way i bad on let's say well basically let them know that they've done here's the thing he warning the jet being a means to me just pay shipping and why can't you and me one of the other side of it is they wanna make then sunday where the ringing well the man who had an outstanding in the bullet who thing to me we do it to you but the main john allows them to take down the big man thank you sir bomb magazine john john big but now he says the big one in three adults in things that

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How Many Crossover - BOYL Bob Bland Edition

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

30:06 min | 2 months ago

How Many Crossover - BOYL Bob Bland Edition

"How many? How many? How many? How many? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine. WHO. Would I get up to? Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of how many the only on casts on the Internet accounts. I am one of your host Jesse Jackson joining me today is Gary. Gary L. Junior Lou, and Bob. We are on series of episodes where we are giving tribute to sports radio thirteen ten, the new segment that they are doing bands of your life where they give eleven questions and you answer those questions with artist or band musicians. But the kicker is you can only use one artist one band once on your list and I believe it is Bob's turn in the hot. Seat and junior is going to be asking the questions taken away. Guys Bob. The first question that I am dying to know is what band do you absolutely hate and do not get. So start off by giving us any honorable mentions you may have and then give me your answer I. Love Your Information Give me a bullet pointed list a better not be British Euro? Clean sweep of everybody hating depressed mode honorable mention is more hate and in the band I chose as more I don't get band honorable mention is cranberries and it's mainly because of those two hits linger and Zombie with the those annoying vocals ever put to microphone. It's interesting. You say that Bob because you have two very notable Karaoke keys. dft You you have to. have. owned. and. It's like a goat gut shot. You say, but you on record as saying you like dream. Yes. Do you like dreams even though there's at random yodel partner Oh. Oh. That's my honorable mention. But the ban that I'm going to say I don't get more than hate because there are a couple of their songs I kinda like radiohead. I just don't get it mad enough with the brief loops are. It's like it's not just necessarily genius because you throw a bunch of crap against the wall. You know it's like the Jackson pollock of music. Thank God. Experimental unmanned. So many people rave about him and I think part of the allure may put on an amazing life show like I know Roy and some of the other guys on the ticket of really raised about they just got so weird that I record was kind of conventional. Creep, that was the big yet, which is a good song the more they further, they got their crew works fair mental and just bizarre they. I like a couple of their songs but I would almost put them in the overrated category as opposed to the hate category. It's almost like the Beatles thing where you almost get shamed into having to like them or else everybody thinks you're musical idiot they're definitely to music SNOB. For sure. Totally agree with that because I've had many times that people have looked down upon me because radiohead what matter with you there's songs are weird because they drift into different tones like it'll have really long slow sections and all of a sudden everything will go crazy and it'll be chaos in some of that I like. But like you said probably a little overrated yeah. Could've put him in overrated as well. Speaking of overrated. What band do you think is overrated. So my honorable mention here is going to be smashing pumpkins like a couple of their songs, but most of it's just the beating disc. was. A. Bob Dylan Robert. Zimmerman. DILLAS overrated. Yes. Was the when he did the bands of your life who really put it well, fantastic Lewis's Godawful vocalist that's it in a nutshell fuel young. He also has a really renewed voice. It's awful a lot but for some reason, I can totally hang with the new young boys but the Bob Dylan boys drained my life force. So many of psalms ramble the F. on other things like saving said that I agree with is covers Bob Ulan songs are always better than the old along the tower better moshing on heaven's door better I got to see Bob Dylan live one time. I would consider it to be the best. I've ever heard him one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, six, when Tom Petty and the heartbreakers were his band. Oh. I felt like that band was so tie, it made Bob. Dylan be better. I had tickets to see him at the end of June, and of course, it got canceled. I've never seen him live as we talked about on our last episode. There's people that you go man I should see him in. Yes Sam Lison. Will hate you. Getting out of the negative categories and moving into the positive band that is under appreciated. Okay. So there were several at thought of here the one that I'm going to use his my runner up and not that people don't think they're good I. think just people don't realize how many good songs they have cheap trick they. It like junior thinks they have like three hits or something, and it's like they have so many mortgage Johnson that and they're also really great live but they are audible mention. Yes I'm honorable mention. Can I guess what I? Yes Lebeau. Are, we not men, we are devaux. So. Obviously. My. Them along with probably most people was. That was a big hit came out of nowhere and I love that album freedom of choice and it wasn't until I went back and heard the first album. Are we not? Go. We almost like rock album is just so incredible. I. Love Almost all. There's there's so much more to them than meets the eye. They were a performance art collector and the whole reason they formed was because they were at Kent. State when those shootings happened, they witnessed the shootings at Kent State Soda Joe Walsh Started Chrissie Hi pretenders they were all there. The whole thing is about the theory of evolution know almost like idiosyncrasy hershiser a lot of that too. What seems like just kind of silliness I one hundred percents agree with you. They are greatness. Now, Scott Jesse do you guys have any opinions on depot? Jesse I think you were on record as saying they are one hit wonder right? All you would. Get. No satisfaction exactly with the audit plan heads off a lot of it. I would have been more on board with cheap trick songs I. Know of cheap trick are genius live of Buddha Khan my roommate right out of college David Fair. Loved that CD. So we listened to it a lot but yeah, I got nothing on Devaux now Scotteri familiar with the Neil Young Divo-. And that's creepy as hell seeing them. Ill loved them Neil love diva. But there's been other times that Neil and I have not been on the same page about bands will be like they were just too out there for me to get into Deebo is so hard since I, think that's their appeal to me very similar to the British new wave band that everybody else seems to hate I love them. All right speaking of love band that I love. This was tough. Obviously, we already talked about van. Halen had a big Van halen phase out a huge rush phase. Ahead a huge queen phase but runner up's going to be Tom Petty and the heartbreaker. There's only been one tom petty song ever didn't like and it was only because they ran the video into the ground too much but they're awesome. AM So bombed that I never saw them live but the band I love I'm going to go with the band that I think has the greatest studio album of all time greatest live album of all time and the band that I think has the greatest concept album of all time. It's the WHO. Would've talked about his bed go back in time. Leads and I would be for live at C. in I that would have been so amazing. No Ban Todd that much wall energy and volume to have what was arguably zebras drummer of all time had what was almost unarguably the best basis of all time. Roger Daltry is one of the best vocalist ever and towns and awesome guitarist alot all stuff. WHO's next is the best album of all time they're solid. Fifteen to twenty, are you counting hear me? Green. Soon. Greenie? Greed. I was thinking Mama's got a squeeze box. I've almost dometic karaoke because it's such a funny bit song. I've always looked at the WHO as being a real hit and miss type of band. They have some songs that I think are just their century breakers a songs that will live forever. Then they have some songs that I think this just crap. They have some some spare songs. It's just not the consistency there, and for me I agree about Kit as being drummer the guy was a monster. You know my friend the late great reckless go was a huge who fan and he always talk about that moon loved beech voice you like always like, Hey, we should surface in. Guys like no, we're not doing serving I know nothing about the WHO accept the hits I did some episodes onset lesson Greece where I picked tend not so well known springsteen songs I. think that would be fun for who episode Aright Fan that you can listen to over and over again, this would was really tough originally had ACDC on here but there my runner up I never ever get tired of ACDC I agree I agree completely for the band I put here Ryan's is GonNa agree with me on this one because it's the greatness of steely. Dan. Oh okay On this one. No static at all the. Kind of the complete package because the lyrics are just they're impeccable, they can play so many different tempos and styles of music and it's the flexibility. It's so great. They were genius enough to bring in like, Michael, McDonald to sing on some of their songs mark. Knopfler was odds tracks on Gouge does they really are just an amazing man in it's mainly just those two guys Bell Fagin and Walter Becker's now bob, did you get to see them live? No I never got to see them live late for that buddy well, not necessarily because Donald, Fagan still tours steely Dan. Now you mentioned Michael McDonald was he doing the backup on Paddle and peg? Yes. I would put steely Dan kind of in the same vein as the WHO because I think that when steely Dan is really really good they're really really good and when they're not so good they're discount of mad I hear the song do it again it's almost other worldly. So longest time I thought that song was Santana so. I thought that was saying Tanto probably for years. It is such a huge headphones song. I could easily see somebody's sitting there listening to that and taking a couple of hits and high school greatly under appreciated by me and it wasn't until I got a little older I started saying, yeah they've got some really really good stuff out there buddy. Oh, and say the same thing it wasn't really until college that I probably started getting more and more into them and it's because I actually thought steely Dan only had. Like three or four hits, it wasn't until Bob gave me CD of steely Dan's greatest hits that I expanded out my number two like between ten and fifteen you sold me on steel again but you won't do it to me for cheap trick. I will not make that same concession. All right. So next up band that made me fall in love with music now I had a couple of options here. One Band that I was gonNA use here because I actually wrote an article got published in a magazine about Ed. Martha and under WHO GIVES A it's all my website to whenever read it. It's about grand funk railroad because when I was a kid and my dad would go to the record store, he would not mind me a brand new record. All he would let me pick was from US twenty, five cent record bands I got all the grand funk albums us so they would be my runner up but I, the one I went with is the rolling stones. Of the reason. Is Same Way Kyrie was talking about how? A lot of his musical love of his mom I get the same thing from dad. Adad cycle through the same handful tracks over and over again and one of them rose rolling stones as in the which it's basically was one of an earlier it's record for my. Late sixties early seventies that was my first exposure to the rolling stones and hearing those songs so much over and over again I just really liked them before that it was almost all just stuff I heard on. AM radio. Public stuff and that was really like Oh. Wow. There's music beyond the hit song. Yeah. I kind of put the rolling stones in the same category that Gary was putting the Beatles in earlier by like a lot of their songs. But it's almost like you're you almost have to like them right I always have liked them over the Beatles just because I think there's more edge to now there is more of an effort to the stones and the Beatles. So I was talking about that earlier Persona Colin Hanks Tom, hanks kit, and he joined we got this it's a similar podcast us except you know they have more listeners but A Bait Danes Choices Rolling Stone or Beatles they ended up going just slightly by the Beatles because of influence but they really made a good discussion on it shouldn't be slammed up by the way I just Google the eight track that you talked about Bob. That's a really nice. That was a huge entry point into the eight tracks. My Dad had in heavy rotation was that one goodbye yellow brick road by John and Shotgun Willie Willie. Nelson I would take those re CD's right. Now that would not make a bad road trip. Kelly, ever listened to in the car with my dad was the bill mack open road show was hard. Hit yesterday hard bill just just interesting how much your parents will influence your musical tastes because not only that I get that stuff through my dad to the checks. But when I turned ten, I've got my first record player. I inherited my mom's collection of forty fives that she had listened to when she was a teenager so. Be exposed to some sixty stuff like bees and some other hands than I ever heard before. All right next up band that changed my life. This was also kind of a split decision. These are both man's I was exposed to roughly the same time. One of the band's is Jane's addiction my runner up because at that point, they really were more of a kind of a college fan and I heard. The nothing shocking albums that blew me away and I could not stop listening to it. But the one that catapulted me for the whole indie music thing was the replacements. There was a radio station in Austin poke LBJ, that L. Listen to, and unlike most of the stations back and they would periodically mix in stuff you would normally hear on radio and I heard a replacement Song Alex Chilton of what is who is this Mike I've never heard of them I've never heard of any other song. That's how mainstream I was at that point. I had never heard of let it be Ernie. Job. And not knowing anything about him I just immediately I. Hope so I gotTa get the record. So pleased to meet me and I, just love all of it down while the Bass player is your age and he started the band was like twelve or thirteen years old like Oh God. That's awesome. I would love to be that guy there the first day and then I'm like, okay, not everything I listened to has to be something that gives played on the radio and I will say I've never heard the replacing all. Familiar with they're not allowed only I've heard the name though they had a pretty infamous appearance on Saturday night live like in the mid eighties is Astros. Live performances were legendary. And then you catch them on just an amazing night where they were just like the best live in in the world. But the other two or three times they were smashed and couldn't even play their instrument. The older brother of a bass player was talking about with original guitarist and he drank himself to death. There were very interesting band. They've had documentaries about they changed everything for me. I got to see them at the Bronco Bowl. Wow. Now, I'm jealous their open for them the show. was an hour late guitarist and singer came out they performed two songs and then left, and then the replacements came out, blew the place away I. got to go backstage I was sitting talking to dense in the bass player like what the hell happened because the drummer got arrested in the baseball refused to go onstage without the drummer there are waiting hoping that they were going to get him out of jail and get into the show on time, but he didn't make so wow. Yeah Tommy Stinson. Bass players the one I was talking about the real young Gary would be intrigued in later years. He was the bassist for guns and roses most the last fifteen, twenty years I think he even was one of the ones that played on Chinese democracy in minutes were one of the things that I most proud about him is that I got my son interested in them and he really likes them. Now next step the band that surprised you, I think this was the artist of all the categories. runner-up is Porter Wagner I always just remember the show he was the host and they'd bring Dolly Parton out all that stuff I started really trying to back fill catalog with some of the older country music. I can't stand modern country music and I got a collection of his stuff. I was just blown away by the songs and the lyrics and how dark some of that stuff seth, my runner up. But for my band that's surprising. Most Juniors, GonNa hate this one because he hates this girl talk. Generals gathered in the mass. That's not a real band that's just a DJ mixing a bunch of different songs together I know that's what surprised me about it is normally I don't go in for the whole raid thing. I heard grow talk album all day, and it's beyond mashups got my fond of youth mashups this youtube and typically it's like two songs mash together. But this style was built pot does his songs her absolute huskies of whole bunch of different song and he calls me Tiki Wiki boys known as an album. It did something similar goals. How does is basically creates music out of the entirety from all of the sample it's just incredible way he does it to me. It's so cool to hear rat merged with copper with hard rock I played it for junior. One time a he sabotaged undersold I am a fan of mashups like I like those Youtube mashups where you take two songs and you put together right at girl talk is one continuous mixed that takes a heine pieces, inserts them in for about thirty seconds, and then it immediately goes to something else. A thing of it is usually takes about two or three of the songs and uses them as the backbone throughout, and then just mixes in some other stuff. The way that particular album woods just was perfect now Jesse Scott where you guys familiar with girl. Yes. Girl Talk to me it was just like, oh, it's a passing fad. They mentioned him on the ticket and I think that Jake in some of them, saw him perform like one of those festivals on by the way. Bob Beastie boys could be on my overrated list Tara. They will definitely be on future list enough of whip girl talk next up guilty pleasure my runner up here she because actors. is they're so so heavily sampled rapper's delight would suck without the good times baselines. It's awesome. But what I really think works here as a guilty pleasure is radio station Kunr. And the reason I put him here is not for the Beatles I genuinely enjoy Solo Ringo Starr I think songs like photograph don't come easy the no no song his greatest hits is awesome. I just think people write him off as a hack. He was a spur wasn't a good drummer kind of a punchline of the beetle brought an awesome studio musicians and songs just really good voice was well suited for the hyper songs that he did I agree. One of my regrets is you know he toured all star Band like Clarence clemen and kneels lofgren just. A lot of great people I agree if you read people who really respect drummers, they talk about how good he was I would've almost put him man that is under appreciated even though he's a beadle as a standalone you're right he had only. I always feel like I need to advocate Russillo were because everybody always says, all Paul McCartney Solo Wings Awesome John, stuff's awesome tortures in Ringo has a lot of really good stuff as well plus March. Simpson. Painted a photograph of them much. Thanks for the painting of yours. Truly I don't mean wall you'll quite. Question yes. We do have burgers and fries in England but we call French fries chips love Ringo. All right next step and I should have seen live by now. Okay. So Tom Petty is out of the running the died Elvis Costello was my runner up. One of these days of got AC- Castillo live can do Veronica and then walk off the stage. No. He's got about forty at least but the ban on putting here is fighters or s Christopher walken was eight fighters musical guest foo fighters. I don't know why. But I assumed you were Chinese. Another Corona is preventing. Wife's favorite band and I, love him as well and we were GONNA go see him in Oklahoma City and April to they were doing this twenty, th anniversary tour I. Got Us really good seats better arena and then Kobe hit. But got rescheduled for December also, and then last week tour canceled. Herbal. So no through fighters for me if you're Kobe heads, I would have seen him. We talked a little bit about missing people that had died and I somehow never saw the eagles during their original tour and then when they hell freezes over tour and so they were coming to Dallas with Vince Gill playing and we had tickets and Cova canceled it and then they rescheduled it's Fa-, canceled it still you know hopefully you got that thousand dollar refund. Foo fighters the solid. And, guest starred on the West. Wayne set the. Foo, fighters. Cat. That is. You've actually got nine performers doing sets from seventy. Club. Foo Fighters. So Dave Grohl is finally gotten out of the Oh. He's just the drummer for Nirvana Phase I. Think he's surpassing anything Nirvana ever did I think his music is better you can't just say Oh, well, he's popular because he was in Nevada look Chris Nova sell it. Was a piece of trash I'm with you on the FOO fighters. They did a documentary a few years back Abou- starting of the band, my son, and I went stood online at some theater for like two hours and we got to go in, they showed the documentary and then a live via satellite of them in the studio or forming their new album live right there on the screen of them in. It was amazing. You know that's really cool in at sonic highways. Thing was really awesome to kicked eight or ten cities in the US would go to those cities and Dave. GROHL would write a song about each of those cities and then they've made an album with those songs. Concept last question great band to seed live. He knew the J. Indie stuff was going to surface at some point runner up for band called my morning jacket that I have seen live and they're one of those bands that are much better live than on record. But yes, guided by voices either my live band. Credible. So awesome about them is their lead singer is a guy who's now sixty years old maybe sixty two something like that, and he still does hiking expedient a hundred song show year's eve last year in La that lasted over four hours now, no strings team is older than that and has kind of endurance. But this guy if edible what he does and they're very prolific, they've been around since the eighties and nobody knows of them except you know an indie circles. But their live show is that ass? I saw him at trees couple years ago and it was incredible. They just bring in almost every one of their songs super short like less than three minutes and they just go for one right next to the next to the on the dude has a giant massive beer cooler behind him on stage and he's just shrugging the whole show and high kick in and businesses. Awesome. Jesse Gary Are you familiar with guided by voices? This junior next time we come through town I'll buy your ticket and Gary to all you guys. We ought to make a road trip of it e by chicken. Rather go see. Max. Sabbath again. Mexico's pretty awesome. Thing real. Cinnabon Jovi. Interesting okay. All right. Well, that was an interesting list Gary. Do you have any feedback on all of Bob's? I can tell you I was listening very intently as reasonable I. didn't say anything during that whole thing Bob. Cheated and had depeche mode disaster for like five of these questions. All Right Hey, pretty solid little list went a little independent. Would I would expect you to do I? Do think it's funny that so far Naronha the Beatles and Bob Dylan Order overrated. Doing all right, hey, thanks a lot where he would love to hear your picks of the bands of your life. If they want to reach us, how can they junior they can reach out to us by email how many podcasts gmail.com they can't leave a message on Youtube Channel just search for the how many podcast they can send us a tweet on the how many twitter account or you can send me a tweet directly even though I won't read it Mexican underscore junior, and you can hear me at Jesse Jackson DFW Gary. and Bob Lukewarm Tabor and Scott. It's GS material on instagram got. On the twitter and you can go to tunes or wherever you get your podcast rate as review. Alright. So this is the end of this episode but hey, keep subscribing because raw taken a turn and we're all going to shave abandoned life. But for now thank you be safe wherever masks and we'll talk to you. These or the bands.

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Episode 126 The Yarn Wall

The Moratorium

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Episode 126 The Yarn Wall

"Hey Phil Freak stirs. It's Tim the moratorium just here to remind you that if you enjoy what you hear please like Shirin subscribe then Rinse and repeat. We're just a couple of small town nerds trying to make sweet geek love to your ear holes and we can use your support. Check out our website for movie reviews, links to social media, merch movies, and more. You can find us at the moratorium dot Com. Now, that's out of the way on what the Shenanigans. Welcome to the yarn wall a mini moratorium I'm your host Tim Kornmann. This episode Jason and I take a long drunken dive into the depths of IMDB. This is where we break down the last week's film and follow the yarn to make the thinnest and slightest connection to our next movie. It's kind of like six degrees of Kevin. Bacon game with slurred speech and double vision which can only explain the sudden jump into the middle of the thread of the conversation that is the yarn. As jock number three. The family's been through it. All. Right now what you got funny i. Just an actress named Arlene. I think that's a funny name Arleen Galanga. Delong. Golonka. Three, times. Did your cat walk across your keyboard and just started searching things. Keyboard cat situation, all all me. I can't. I can't find her what about her Arlene Galanga. A movie called my tutor on up here. Remember that one. Yeah. I remember the box art for that. Yeah. Screen shots I'm like, of course, I've seen that movie. Yeah. But then I looked at it and I was like, no, I don't know if I've ever seen. In the box for it but Anyway she was in. His in mayberry. R F the. I. Still don't see her. Are Galanga Goal Longa got. Arlene Galanga. Hanging. Interesting. About sure. Hundred sixteen credits. talk about little known I wonder about this film a rich father hires a tutor for his son. The son is horny teenager and the tutor is a gorgeous blonde complications ensue. A couple of things wrong. Looks like he is in his late pointing. Me Look Young but. He's definitely. Community. That actress. Karen Kay is she that tutor? Is The concealed Barry? She was in Satan's princess. Of She's in English Matt Houston the Bikini Murders. Sounds like. Something I would watch. Deal. PUMPKIN head to blood. Wing. Want. Not Leave an impression from the description of this movie to kind of give you the idea that he was in high school. But yeah. Yeah, you're right. You know it doesn't have to tutor doesn't have to be just from you know he could be college, right? Although I think if you look at the movie, I think it it looks like Grade School I. Think it implies that you like. Seventeen or eight. Has a full beard before he goes to school. Though Matt Lead Tanzi La- Tanzi I didn't even bother. I was just GonNa say them Ralph macchia looking Guy He he was started in Xanadu. XANADU DANCER? And Greece to he was in Roxanne. who was in Roxanne. Definitely, don't know just one of the one. Is. Trent on the WHO Trent was. Worms Roxanne Worms. That guy the guy from like spell binder and? Big Media Head. Rick Ross Cevic. A certain time. In the mid eighties, but I would have known his name to move. He was the main character in belva finder. Do you remember that one at all? I don't remember the movie I remember the box box was just above. Like, vaguely say panic necklace on. That yeah, yeah? I don't remember that. Kelly Preston. Yeah. Yeah No, you're right. Vaguely Satanic Necklace. Kind of just looks like. Number four but they exactly or princes. Wait a minute at like the hardest formerly known as Rick Roth of it. Losing we keep going back to losing it. Tom Cruise. He was in that he was in a episode of Bj and the bear. Monkey, but he was in the terminator. He's the boyfriend of her Okay? Yeah. Run into a mirror he's wearing really really high like underwear when Arnold in the wall I really thought that that was Tommy Jarvis. Accuracy that. But now, what's his name? We've only talked about like so many times. A service around for a while? We've talked about it because he was in return to living dead. Tom Matthews that's who I thought. The boyfriend was because you can kind of see the beef face. And I just looked this up recently because I watched I just watched that scene where the boyfriend got flung into the mirror. And I thought I thought the same thing and I was going to look it up and never did he's wearing like a banana hammock. Yeah while she's wearing headphones and making a sandwich or whatever. Getting. Ready. To do they just finished having sex our okay. Okay. So there, of course she's making a sandwich lifting. Them. Doesn't realize her boyfriends being killed by Terminator in the room. Yeah. Those were over the ear headphones. Definitely hear some dude weighing. On the other side of for little kitchenette thing. You gotta point there. Fall off of. Cure you know when they said that rock and roll killed Because it filled your ears with great sounding music. It wasn't that you commit suicide. You just don't hear the terminator come in. I I remember right whatever she's listening to. Rock and roll for. Bright it was like. New Edition or something. So Rick Ross Cevic was also in. Warning, sign we talked about this the other day. Off of it cast maybe. I just. This is a guy that I should have been looking at before. He plays such a good character in frigging Roxanne. I just thought he was a goofball. was. Getting. Mad. They cast incorrectly. He was in top gun as slider. For sure. You've been behind the scenes in our favorite movies. You know popularly viewed as very like homoerotic movie just because of all the like you know kind of locker room grab ass. I. Just would like to see it through that Lens and then like Kelly mcgillis addressed looking dude and. Holiday a kind of folded in with the. Any that's just something that I read the bill. WE'RE GONNA, stay who we are what we're doing. Oh I'm sorry. Yeah. Welcome to the Yarn Wall. Yeah. I'm your host. Tim Cornerman. Host Co host. Co Host. Cost. I. Already. Clicked off we already we went through this before you click it, you can't go back Yep Rick Rosser. Mitch Rick. Russell. We're. Bringing him up. An. Interface. So I've got about six tabs open here. But I wanted to talk about the Jaydee Feguson. Of Dark night of the scarecrow, the writer of dark none of the scarecrow which did I mention that they were making a sequel? It's unlike pre production or something. Come on ended the formula so simple and effective. Ruin a bunch of your Hollywood be at this give. You tell them Steve Dave. Movie just a little more violent. There you go. Yeah, boobs and blood. Just Gimme some boobs and give me some blood. I'll even take boobs with blood. Lane sniffs boobs. Oh. We shut that the war and firmly lock it. To admit I cannot look at the states anymore. Is that it? Okay. All right part of my You know he helped me in my. Thing today, but this is it I don't want. Don't WanNa seem. Person I'm going to bring out today as the spotlight personally. There's some stuff you might WanNa forget to about it. Jd Feguson Fingleton I want to bring up He wrote a movie called Horror High. Nineteen seventy three. And I'll get onto something else in just a second said just I just gotTa read this. It's just kind of bizarre a nerdy high school super wizz experiments with a chemical which will transform his Guinea pig Mr Mumps. From a gentle pet into a ravenous monster in a fit of rage against his tormentors at the highest school vernon pots goes on a killing spree eliminating all those who ever picked on him. The Gym Coach High School Jock the creepy janitor and and has hated teacher Mrs Grind Staff. In the end, he gets the JOCK's girlfriend for himself, but his happiness is short lived as the potion terms in into a monster. Hunted by the town's lame police Lieutenant Bozeman. If that's a lot. I got a problem with the way. This reads because. I was all in when I thought that the Guinea pig was the ravenous monster that was killing kayce cooler. I was in on that. Kind of food is a God. Yeah. Mr Mumps. So just had I had to look at that because I was like almost shit was this. A. Prequel to the movie return to horror high. I know that million I really liked that movie it doesn't sound like it whatsoever other than the title and if you click on the Trivia It says here immediately, this movie is unrelated to the nineteen seventy three's horror. Thank you but I didn't realize when I looked at the return to horror high. I didn't realize that that was like George Clooney's first role. That could have killer tomatoes was that his I wait a minute. Now I'm either in part one. But. It says that but it still. Return to horror high was. Returned Award high that's like. Eighty, nine, eighty, eight, maybe. Return to horror high eighty seven. And grizzly too the revenge was nine, hundred, eighty in that was one of his first they're trying to just capture that. Yeah. This. Yeah. George Clooney Yeah. Right, it says George Clooney's movie debut well. If, I don't call the other movies movies then. Killer tomatoes and I. Didn't go down that route. But I did I was reading Philip mckeon. Street. Hockey. Philip mckeon that was this was his first movie return to horror high, and that is Nancy mckeon brother. Yes A. Strange. where, where was that going nowhere, I just. Ordered that one into the ground one golden girl. Yeah. The killer tomatoes this what I was thinking. Okay. Had A lot of TV like under his belt before that. Watch the return to high part with him in it on. Why am I looking at George Clooney I envy. You don't care about his I D I M D. I started looking at Andrew dive is a dive off Dave off dive off. You know what I'm talking about. The right. Now. You'll see his face and you'll be like Allie Shit. He's been in everything he was And another forty eight hours he was toy soldiers the nineteen ninety, one version. He has been in a ton of things. I looked them up because of the movie. NEON. Maniacs. I watched part of this the other night I'd never seen it. neon maniacs is nineteen, eighty six and it states a group of teenagers in San Francisco discover a nest of homicidal monsters living in a tower in the Golden Gate Bridge. But when they tried to tell authorities, nobody believes them. I guess. So a tower in the bridge. In the bridge I guess if we live there, we'd be like, oh. Yeah. The our the Brits Yeah. The Monster. And it's. Interesting. neon maniacs. They kill the monsters or the. WHATEVER THEY WANNA call what they call him homicidal monsters, which are just people in masks right. Grounds. Yeah they kill them with water? It melts them like let's same kind of easy. To figure that out. Fine. Yeah. The water just laying around. NEON MANIACS I duNno I. I didn't follow much of it. I was in and out but the main guy was in a band and they were doing a battle of the bands type thing and then the neon maniacs come in and just start killing people. But it's during Halloween so everybody was wearing masks. So nobody could tell who was the monsters and who were the real people. And when everything goes amok, the camera stays on the crowd the dance crowd ride in front of this band. And these people are basically just running around in circles in front of a camera. Just randomly, they're not running towards an exit there just running back and forth across the camera. Just. Like they're like craft like. Conspiracy. Videos on there like price backers. Wait. The whig. You watch the the conspiracy videos on. Our. The other. Okay. Wait we have another podcast. Okay. So in the pictures for neon maniacs I don't know if you want to go back here's bill on that page. That's Donna Lock who? Swear she looked a millionaire and that name down semester. But if you look at for I am bb, there's just nothing there except for. Yeah but. A half and I think I think she's dating the main character, the boy in it and I think he gave her the habit those new assessment. I does I see it? I just didn't realize that there was like alien life than. Absence Shit. Anyway. I would totally love one of those hats. There's a picture of one of the COPs on a BMX bicycle. That's A. No because he's right next to one of his car. Oh. Yeah. Like. That's like bullets just getting are. Never seen. I KINDA WANNA watch return to horror high again Alex Rocco's and that state. Brings me expensive piece I don't know why. I don't remember it but that doesn't mean anything. I don't remember a lot of things. Actress laureate a lesson and I keep on thinking it's Barber Brandon and it is not. Just, lightly an oil. So Andrew dive off was not my deep dive actor. It was going to be I was looking at his stuff. It's pretty interesting. You know he's from Venezuela. Yaowu. I mean. Best known for the wish master on the wish master films. Which Board Right Man. I think before we really are. I would like to do which. I love that movie. I watched it not too long ago. No. This scene where all the. Off It's sheet rock or like a bunch of construction materials all dude and Kinda costs out and I don't know why that kind of like. I, guess it just look early realistic like that. Could happen you know. Okay you remember that like when the when. I vaguely remember that part yeah. You're on a track here. No I actually, I just started looking at the android off just because. Once, you see like oh manny. Is Very prominent and many of these movies that we like to watch so much and he plays a bad guy plays a pretty good bad guy. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. This is where you that three loss. I think confused because I thought the bad guy and toy soldiers was. The guy from the Gurney. Robert? Davi. Right right. He they kind of look alike I mean is that we? Meet faces. God He is a roast beef. You might be more rose tastes than Robert. Dobbin who? Shot. Guys. Can you prove that the same person? Can you prove that they're not the same person? That guy he looked much different. been. Graveyard shifts actually i. read that He married one of the girls from graveyard shift. He married one of the rats. Yeah. No the. The Girls Girls. He was married to somebody. Wait a minute now hidden taken me this long to actually look up Andrew. And? Dip. Journey dive off because there's no. Man This is going to be the episode where it's just people that will like the other. He was in Mac and me. On purpose. Well, Andrew Dot off devolve whatever he was an extra three. Yeah Captain. In the two thousands. Yeah. It was nineteen ninety-five Marines travel to a desert island to defuse bombs only to be terrorized by an alien. From. They're. Really. Puts A kink in your. Garden. Really. Put your paintings in a wide. In. A movie called, south? With you. You'll probably recognize. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah I did not know until. Just a few months ago that Based on comic. That I'm currently reading and firm like the early eighties mid eighties came. So. Good. So weird and so violent. I've never seen that movie but. After now Interesting. Robert, culp is in extra three. Yeah was ninety five. He didn't die until two, thousand ten. Oh my God. I love him. I still is the love I. And Right. Yes and then he was a great American, hero? Yeah. It's like a mini Clint Eastwood he yeah. Maybe lesser. Anyway. Way Off topic. And it's just the stuff that I was looking at this week. You know that you were coming to your. Andrew dive off not your. I was looking at him. And found that he just didn't have a whole lot to offer in his trivia. Guys has been on repeat movies. With all these other different actors now, not very interesting. Just a guy that. Was a good bad guy. made it seems like some of those people protest. Much you know about like. It typecast, which means that I have a steady job you know. The. Person that they call for these types in those. Probably, not like that they're probably like. I. Love It. I think. Andrew was also in oblivion. And was he not playing the Lizard Guy who's wearing an eye patch? In his IMDB week picture he's. Also wearing an eye patch. Of the different I, is he just not? Just typecast as a bad guy, you gotta make sure that he has one. Thing goes to is. Percents Oh okay. He does really nasty kind of. It makes sense. Role. Or not. Remember the movie clean slate. Clean slate was No. Dana Carvey. And he had a dog that had perception problems that kept running into the wall. was good stuff. Dana carvey where he played like a fertile first thing. Right. Hurdle people was that or was it just as character that he was playing in the master of disguise? He was trying to do A. An Austin powers type thing where he could have a repeat and. The like you're not funny unless you'RE IN A. Dress and a wig and playing the drums. autoroute. filariases. Just think those movies they're like. Awful. Beaming. I mean the master disguise. I refused to watch it. But. He's always been good at doing voices and he has a ton and freaking. Voice acting. Larrea. Got Caught on clean life. That's all that's around the time of moving to remember I remember knowing who he was and I was like wait he's in moving. Probably because. Blames World or something. You know he's like the guy that Dr Richard Pryor's Saab Blue. Cross country that movie I remember that movie. And had to put the. Mirror underneath the dog's nose to see if he was still alive. And the guy the wrong fingers. gave him the wrong finger. Clean slate also has a Olivia Diablo in it. Are Interesting. Interesting. Has Gaillard's. To. James Earl Jones Valerie. Glean. Oh. Insulting and if he say Gaylord Right Yeah compulsively. Get Michael Gambon. The in like the general and toys you know like sick over the always in that movie, the beef because the life. Yeah. The Cook, the thief, the wife, and her lover. Bad Guy and. We're talking about gambling, right? He was Dumbledore. Yeah I, don't know I. Don't know your potter. About Harry Potter. Do from my wife watching them in your life. They are constantly playing. Here. We go. The beast must die I remember seeing this freaking box art. Yellow. Yeah exactly. Eight. People have been invited to an island state for the weekend. One of them as aware wolf, can you guess which one? Peter cushing, of course. Peter Cushing's in it. So he's gotTa be the wolf. One. cussing now is not a will. Now, he would be that where we'll clar. Not a good movie. No not to stop the beast must die. I was getting kind of excited about it. Dinner Party and one person was the where. It would be the cook. Easy to pick out but where you know. It's all the hair. There's more hair in my soup and there is soup. They're all wear will. Not Racial Bicker. Just creeping. Again. Anyway. All right you about ready to get started with the Shenanigans. All right. In Your Person Oh. You may go first I. Let. Alone. My person, my deep dive is. Sorry she hasn't been in a lot of movies. But I'm looking at eighty fearing. What do you think? Why is that? Funny? Is that your person Now. Okay. That would be just too weird. I was looking up because we talked about the fury. All, right we mentioned briefly in one of our episodes. and. I wanted to look at it again because it's something I i WanNa see and the fury has Charles Learning in it. So. Now you see where I was running with this. Guy In. Kirk Douglas. John Cavities. Charles Learning Andrew, Stevens I thought that was somebody else. I wait a minute walk for. The fury. Man I haven't seen a long anyway the fury reads. A former CIA agent uses his talents of a young psychic to help retrieve has tele kinetic son from terrorists who wants to use his mental powers for evil is also in a movie called Mongolian. Death. Before. We he on the phrase he isn't a movie called Mongolian death one there you. Can Fly in the Theory Candy I duNNo. Looking at a picture every. Ungodly Leather Eight. I'm I remember watching this movie not too long ago I wanna I, WanNa, watch it again just because I dig Brian Depalma film so. Sue SNELL and. That's where really she got her start. Maybe. They're not wrong as she also plays sue snell and the rage carry. Exactly. Doesn't she? Know Okay right now she's in. Very. End Dreamy sequence which I wanted to read about that. Yeah. Friday the thirteenth yeah exactly. But on IMDB also says something about here. In the scene and carry where the character sue Snell is walking along the footpath to put flowers on carries burnt house. In the dream sequence, right? Okay. The Palme wanted amy to walk backwards in the shot in order to make it look more dreamy. That explains why a car in the background appears to be driving reverse and birds are flying backwards. Ever. I can't wait to watch it now. Very funny and nineteen, sixty five she appeared in a play as a walk on opposite Stacy Keach. All coming back around yet. And probably, most famous shows was married to Steven Spielberg Nine, thousand, nine, hundred, five, nine, hundred, nine. and. Know Palm Hanks's married to Rita Wilson. Yes never. Rita Wilson is if You mean, Tom Hanks from the BURBS. Here it says. Her prenup agreement with filmmaker Steven Spielberg netted her an estimated. Cool. One hundred million when the couple separated nineteen, eighty, nine. Wow. Wow. So, in eighty nine, he was already worth a ton of money. For sure he was also and she's having a baby, but it says she is credited. I only bring that up because you keep bringing up. I haven't brought it up in at least one episode. Actually With see, she was originally going to play Marion Raven would end raiders of lost Ark but Split from her director boyfriend at the time Steven Spielberg who is responsible for the film the to later got together again around Nineteen eighty-four. Amy. And Willie Nelson. Survey. Not what I think. It is amy irving and Willie Nelson started a relationship on the set of honeysuckle rose. Despite his marriage. However irving later left Nelson for Steven Spielberg she traded up. Yet that was a big. Wow. Because I was like nineteen eighty, she was twenty seven. And nineteen eighty he was forty seven he was twenty years old and she is. Interesting. There's a lot more on her stuff here Bearable real well lately hit Berrocal and just looking at something yeah. There she is in part She's played several roles with Priscilla Pointer, which is her real life mother. And I guess she's played in several movies with her and she plays her mom in the movies. She's appeared in real life mother Priscilla Pointer and seven films. Kerry Highness honeysuckle rose she shoulda washed her daughter and Hunterston. The MOM woven dating Lori. Nelson. I had forgotten. She was in Micki and Maude. Dudley Moore. I enjoyed it a lot of fun. I didn't realize that was also a Blake Edwards film. Of course, it was. Should. Not have been watching those when I was so young she's also in a movie with the guy from animal how? Peter Right Art? No No. No that. Guy The Englishman walked. Englishman walked up the hill and came down now. Sure. Yeah. No not that one it's local era. Sorry. Got Them confused so You know she hasn't done a hell of a lot lately, but she was worth a lot of money because she got that pre nup. And some. A minute looking at local hero now on it looks like the dad from extra. Nothing like that. Kinda. Scared. You. Fighter flight. Reaction to that, she was turned down for a couple of things here. She desperately wanted to play the role of Lydia Maxwell in. Inner Space. But she lost the role of Meg Ryan and at the time she was still married to Steven Spielberg so. Like She auditioned for the roles of Stephanie and Saturday night fever and Princess Leia in Star Wars. Very interesting. Can't get a break. She she credits Piper Laurie and a bunch of stuff for taking her under Arri. And becoming her mentor Piper Laurie was the was the fury, right? Now that the mom and okay, you're right. Okay. Yeah. Thundering walgreens. Seen Eighteen. So, anyway, that's that's about what I've got on her amy irving. Is She not. Break down the one with curved Russell. Drafting yes. I can't get. We talked about it before because I watched that one just recently. Yes sir. I. Something about those three women get kind of the little. I can see that. Event Horizon. She's been. Just. Looking at the director here. Jonathan. MOSTOW. who directed who wrote and directed breakdown He wrote and directed you five seven one. Man which you know. There's been a ton of sub movies that one was probably one of the better ones because it had matthew mcconaughey Bill Paxton Harvey Cocktail Bon, Jovi David Keith. Jack knows worthy John. Jon Bon. Jovi. Thing. The only good submarine no, no. No there's been plenty of just that one's a pretty notable one. But I guess you know that you can play on the CLAUSTROPHOBIC ASPECT Now. I bring this up because I watched the descent again and that movie always gave me very claustrophobic fills. It's it made me never want to go into a cave Don't. Care for spunk. So I watched that just recently it's pretty good movie. Part Two I. I need to see that again but I know it just follows up directly from. Part one I mean it's like she runs out and goes right back then. I didn't know about the monsters like aspect of that movie Oh. Yeah. Like, a ruler or something you know like they were the ones that were telling me wasn't the case. Although there were like albino more longer. That was a cool movie. AM sorry I'm scrolling through Jon Bon Jovi clicking him up. Clicking that women. Speaking of their the submarine movie now. Yep I keep seeing the trailers for. That trailer I- intimate with that trailer. Now, I can quote it. Just because if you watch who it has been playing on nonstop. Like six minute long trailer it's probably more like two minutes but. Man Like you're. Our ready don't care because it's just a bunch of Fiji is submarine. To take me down some of your yarn or take me to your take me to your leader. One Guy. I I was looking at Robert F Lyons. Who played skier? And Art Scarecrow. For a while ago. Yeah, we'll see much do. I you immediately, maybe not so much in that movie but when he saves and get that hat off and stuff, I was like he's been in like everything. I recognize him from. TV Yeah, he's in something like Dallas or. Calvin crest or something recognized that. He. Did Quincy Fantasy Island. Atari. Looked like he had a recurring character in the incredible hulk. o L Q Jones was in an episode of a good. Book. I just seem to get mine going here and the reason we might shooter earlier Oh if you scroll down just a little bit. First movie with Crispin Glover. because I saw him in there and I thought about mentioning him and I guess Yep. I knew better. Nineteen. Sixty four New York moved to California is a dancer. Dad is an actor he knows who is data's yeah we talked about him John Glover. Know Bruce Glover Sorry But his middle name as Hell Ian. Flying that Oh there's an explanation crispin. Glover. Is going to New York City raised in southern California is named after the think Crispin they've speech and enter the Willing was also used by body. Okay. It doesn't explain it at all. Making. With. An Alien Lovers weird myself that you get into his dad and it really like the lumber Burrell's Anyway. So his dad was part of the assassins OOO bad dies in diamonds are forever. Okay. The like homosexual. Assassins. So his name is Mr went and the other guys look like Ever Seen Donald Fagan from steely Dan's. Looking dude. I think begging? Yeah, it is. The other guy? Walter Becker you're saying Donald. Fagan is not weird looking. He's got a judgy picture is he's he's staring into my soul. They don't look in the same direction. Saying the guy from steely Dan the look like the other killer and diamonds are forever. But anyway. Bruce Clever is also one of the guys, Chinatown. He is the one that gives that line about about nosy people you know, and then he cut knows switchblade. Actually, I've actually seen that just recently to. Looks like Bruce Glover was in six million dollar man. Walking tall the final chapter. And he also a bodybuilder. What like weird about him? He was an all three of the walking tall movies. Any movie within in it? He is a very, you know eccentric character. They're you know making a lot of like weird choices. So. That's where crispin got it. I, I saw Christmas letter off course he's Marty's dad and back to the future. Yes and I think that's probably I duNno. I could've seen it around the same time Friday the thirteenth. That was in eight. He's He was the dead. Fuck. Has the weirdest dance ever. Know, we've made a horrible mistake bringing the crowds. It had to be a different song. It is famously made fun of. But so my tutor was his first film. I believe yeah. He did some TV stuff before that TV movies. Or cly kid in nineteen, eighty five. It's a short. Courtney gains of the net. But I remember also from. The river's edge because we talk about that plenty because there's that has everybody in it yet, which played constantly you know on HBO or Cinemax during the day. Where we talking about it because it also had. Joshua Don Miller. Yes that's we. We talked about him. I just recently. In English Awesome Yeah rivers gives another super. Weird performance. He was pretty often that wasn't he? Yeah. I think they holding the jet go up you know I think it was friends with Daniel. Roebuck. In it, and then they were kind of wasn't Roebuck the one that would that killed the girl does past that he's like higher functioning though at least he has a clue to cover it up a little bit. You know. Because he knows what's going to happen. If you know the big just doesn't care, but that was Daniel robots third film. June's right he's got two hundred, forty credits. A Lot. Is like a punk when he was a kid. And then now he just has that much session. Looks like a car right now I guess so. Yeah he was in dudes project, x? This organized crime. WHO's in the fugitive easily other call and that's yeah. Yeah because he comes back in the US marshals with. Yeah as a yeah. Oh my God he's a hearse driver in bubba hotel. Best Jan, Daniel Roebuck we need to go back to Crispin Glover for a minute. Richard Malden. So that obviously. The verdict extensive performance and back to the future for that matter. You Know I. Mean He's Done I mean any does up into that tree in broad daylight. To Watch Four thirty in the afternoon and is in A. With a new set of. He was in the happy days he was an episode of happy days. Hillstreet Blues. I. Would think like Punk Kid. Briton the like. We're like has a fake gun or something. Oh is that why you brought up Richard Mulligan was because of teachers. The theater I swear I did. Yeah Oh Marcio she's That now I'M A. Doesn't Joe Beth to strip naked in walk down the hall. You. Like. I mean. Anyway, the river's edge using twister. Nameless. Which? Oh. This is like a parody movie. Twister. I am so confused no. This was not the movie twister, but the movie twister. Why? Because, a Harry Dean Stanton. Kelly. I think part of the well included in the today show. That movie know that I wanNA. Know that no. William S I in that. So Crispin Glover played Andy Warhol and the doors. Like. What's eating Gilbert Grape Avenue man and also around this time. Around this time around like time and. He's in wild at heart in nineteen ninety but around the. was on David Letterman. Every. I guess you've never seen that. Yourself Savoring look up kristen deliver on David. Letterman. Okay and it is It's right next to like. Bob. Cats setting the chair share on fire and he's throws a kick. Dave. Wow. is going. Up. that it even caught. Washing. Crispin Glover's worked with Johnny Depp in three films, Gilbert grape demand and allison. Wonderland Albuquerque love me I I. Want you know it's it's interesting. Seeing it a few times. Jim Jarmusch News correct. Man We started talking about teachers and now all my calves or like all that stuff. You know the doctrine charge, the hospital and violence land but kind of a smarmy. Yes. Yes. Teenager in teachers and he just looked like the guy from violent landslip like. Says, here, was a guest at the wedding of Madonna and Sean Penn at the time crispin was working with Sean, on at close range. Is. One of the brothers maybe maybe I know. At the wedding crispin met Andy Warhol who he played four and a half years later on the doors. So. Interesting. He is three years younger than Michael. J. Fox. Who played a son and back to the future? Always has that full cut. He's kind of handsome accept it except he's terrifying. That's all a choice. He has the strangest resting faith. Courtney gains is in taxes. What else am I met? Never been married. I don't see that. Yes actually, I saw that at the theater. That's another creepy movie. You know he just Kinda fit in perfectly. Important. You know he's only been sixty nine movies. S was like in the eighty. Yeah. Now he's an American God. Thinks, he's like ongoing. Bill. Yeah, it's still show. Anyway. He's just a break. Weird. Eric Director from my childhood and that's quite alright. Back to the future hilarious out and. It. onto the or something he was in the TV movie. High School USA in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, four, which also starred Henry Gibson. John grise. Duly Newmar. Very Interesting Barbara Billingsley who has crystal Bernard. was in weighing heavily for a long time. She was also some pretty mask to I. Think I looked her up just recently because of a young doctors in love. I actually thought about trying to make it to this at some point. Just to torture you with the stupid spoof movies. Also Carl. Reiner. Or One of those guys Gary Marshall. Gary Marshall but Michael mckean Sean Young. Rick Overton. Crystal Bernard Solved Ruben. Neck Harry. Dean Stanton. Taylor. Negron. Dabney Coleman. Oh my God. PODCAST now. To Watch it based on. She's also give me a break I know her from an aster. Because cutting up into episode in beaten. Master one master. In the second episode. Talking about Crispus Crispin. Glover. The Crystal Bernard. That was from High School USA. Yeah that's what that was. John grise actually just showed up in a new series that my wife was watching for some weird reason called dream corporal. Dream Corp LLC. and. He just he's bizarre in it he's just kind of crazy. Live in a world where Crispin Glover. Really and. The old small thing from department stores. Does. Yeah. All right. Are you ready to get on to your yarn? Says Take Me Down Your Yard and Easiest one I've ever done and I will say I know I said that before but I know the rules now and I'm only dialed in. So basis the day that I personally never want to see. Lame Smith's faith again. But Long. For seven years but. He was. Oh I didn't. He did several voices in King of the hill what? my God. Don't don't ruin that for me, nate. Hash away and Char- own Charlie foreigner. Totally ruined that for Ya. I don't know who those people are. anyway just pretend I. didn't say it. Excuse me. I didn't you know access any of the crew or anything I've learned my lesson but Lane Smith was in mighty ducks. Don't ask me buoy was because I didn't look that up either. with Emilio Estevez Okay last second year he was he was a coach. Yeah, angry dad or. But Amelia west of one of my favorite movies reforming. directed by Alex Cox. Definitely that's all the more does criteria. And, it's just one of my favorite movies ever I mean like. Let's say lightly. It definitely in the top five McKay. So we're going to repo man. Got A. Great Soundtrack. Weird incher. Performances Harry eating bands in it. Yeah it's just great. We brought this up for and we've talked about it before but I, feel like it had somebody else that we were talking about Ono's because we were talking about repo chick that's what it was. Yeah. Maybe we should do a double feature. Yarn Wall after repo man and we'll kind of discuss will both watch that one discuss. We've oh, man is a really well done movie. It's just well, you'll see how long has it been since you've seen it be wound ten years easy. You're in virtually. Read it off for me. let the. Newly the his name auto that much. Good good work. To buy a car agency, he's recruited because he's like walking down the street on Harry Dean Stanton drives by. Finds himself in pursuit of Chevrolet Malibu that as wanted for twenty thousand dollar bounty. and has something otherworldly stashed in its trunk. K. I mean that's just the start with you know that's a little doesn't have a lot of actors that you immediately will recognize that they're all like Alex Cox and regular. scrolling through to see if there was somebody who just stood out and it doesn't. WHO also means zone deep dive one of these days? He's in it as a very like. Ask some, pool lines and. kind of like a Shaman Dicey. Music. Also, if you see somebody show that you like kind of recognize that person. there's some people like from the punk scene in the hardcore scene California and the eighty. Okay. I'm looking here you can watch it on youtube kind of On Amazon. All okay. Not Faking I'll check I say. Because somebody's got playing in a small window. Well, it's in a small window around. It has a silly moving background that says if you like my channel, please subscribe. Throughout the entire movie I just WanNa Punch somebody now. Doing that if you're GONNA get around. To. Try to watch repo man you're going to get this TV show A. One, there's a musical. directed by one of the guys from. Any puppy I think. It's called Wreath Oh genetic MAPRA. Yes. So Used that also, there's that movie with Oh you'd law and. was just called Repo men was. Not to be confused with freedom man, which is what we're watching. There are some pitfalls to negotiate. On that? Any of those? Yeah. You're right about that repo men which I watched that and I'm not. Didn't really care but that was a direct takeoff of think repo the genetic opera, the same type of movie. I did not care for Ribaut the genetic opera I'm going to say it right there. I have friends that loved it. Because they knew you know over was. I'm not I'd be like any policy, but I'm not as. You can watch it for free if you start a free week with the dollars. Sorry. Guys. I didn't give US everybody check the website for links house I'll do my due diligence and. Or something. Or both. His name auto. I just read the I don't think they ever say his. Name of. What else? Alex Cox known for? Yes. Khloe web. Nancy. SPUNGEN. She's in twins. I know her. Yeah Yeah. Slipping at Crystal Bernard. Bass over here this. Feel free to look the other people and Guy Played a bad guy in Robocop so but Alex Alex Cox. Wasn't. His debut I don't think. Let me look. First Feature Film. And he wrote it as well. On a roll, he wrote Sid and Nancy as well. And I'M GONNA look go some. There's a bunch of stuff about bidding nancy, but I don't know that we'll ever do that one necessarily I've seen it but I didn't watch it a bunch back in the day. I looked, up straight to hell. When I realized how cool repo man was and I it's a big mess. But okay. young Coding, Love Zenit I'm Jim Jarmusch in and this straight to hell. Straight to Hell and straight to hell returns. Rude and again. Dick rude and I cannot find a lot of information about him. but he's pretty awesome is one of the PUNK and reforming. K.. Acting. Dick Rude. Richardson. Stronger Miguel Sandoval, who you would recognize the song's name Samir is interested. In danger. Shane Gallon. Oh my God did. Didn't know that was that was. he's the lead single. Interesting. Is Not dead and. Sorry. I. Still can't get off the named. Dick Rude. A. Movie Walker which I think I'm GONNA try to watch before next week it. Could that be about? You feel free to read the description but like I feel like you just have to start watching this and just let it take you somewhere. In that. Actually. Walker has a ton I. I really think they thought this was going to be a big movie for. Some Rene, Everton lives in it. Right we've talked about her yeah and was she in. Oh. The guy from Star Trek next generation. That's it. WHO's trying to think of the girl that was in that one movie? Yeah. Danger Berkeley is an many John Deal Peter Boyle Marlee Matlin. What tell me what movie we're talking about again. Been Talk of like dicey it now nine, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven, an unconventional retailing, the life of William Walker nineteenth century mercenary leader who became the president of Nicaragua. Colonel Kurtz and like. Realize that he was the most powerful guy. He just like had his own little town I think don't quote me on that because that's probably often plotted i. know for a fact, you'd be highway patrolman on. Amazon. Yeah. I think that's where I watched it as you're looking at re bowman if you have a chance put on that one too and just watch a few saying I absolutely love it. Really. Has. Absolutely. Nobody in. Stone. The Mexico it is in Spanish. Bible. Gates an episodic look at a young man's life in Mexico national highway. Patrol we follow Pedro row has from Cadet training to his rookie assignment on the northern border area highway patrolman interesting. Thick. By the Book Guy and you just watch it be slowly I can more and more corrupt than you know. Is this a take on some of the like the seventies movies is because it's it was made in ninety one that's what I was curious. Yeah. Ninety one on here watching it. That's why I was wondering was supposed to. Look like maybe. Yeah. Yeah I mean though I, think it helps the like I mean it is some the Mexico but it's like in the middle of nowhere you know and there's only a couple of set and You know he's driving a older car which I imagine they probably did you know patrol cars in Mexico in the nineties are from seventy problem? Maybe. He's like holding A. FRIGGING M16 AT A. At a guy in a Gremlin. Great. Music just got a refill man. Interesting. Pretty good. You guys. Can we watch the trailer for? So Alex Cox? Really hasn't hasn't done a hell of a lot of things. US directed twenty three movies. And I think a lot of his are I could be wrong but I think maybe he sells funds maybe these walker was like a huge like studio movie I think. For. Whatever reason I don't know why they offices to be like A. Blockbuster movie but. He turned down offers to direct three Amigos and robocop in favor of Walker. Presented to him, I could see how this one would interested in more. Often the Robo call. In for that because of REPO. He was asked to direct the running man, but the failure of Walker prevented this from happening. Man. Said on the commentary of the Criterion Collection of Walker that it was his best film. Without reading anything about it kinda sounds like a kind of Richard. Stanley things where you know he had a vision but then. The executive started giving you know he just notes and notes and notes and Finally it just became. They just wasn't his movie anymore you know Gotcha. and. I think. You can never say that Rene Averaging Wall Not in the movie Walker because. Everson. Definitely in the movie. You just like saying his name. I mean, we did it. We did everything that we said we were we set out before. About few weird people. Earrings? Not Weird. I had to dive off on my dive off. In the polar opposite like you teach the most normal person. Maybe, next time we'll switch and I'll do the. Weirdo I mean I think i. knew that Amy, Irving was married to Steven Spielberg at one time I just. Put that in the back of my mind and You heard me I. thought she was Kathleen Quinlan Alphabet. She was Rita on Hanks's live. Rita Wilson. Rita. Wilson. Can't even think of their names. Yeah. We didn't talk about welcome back off. As much as I thought, we would do we need to go into that real quick. You know just seeing the song. Do you have the lyrics? Some of these eighty s TV shows the theme song lyrics probably were. Exactly. go talk about that on three's company. That was a seemed like a very provocative. freaking song. Living. With. Will. You could see how that could be Coming knock on our door. We've been waiting for you where the kisses are hers and hers and his three's company to. Come and dance on our floor take a step that his new. We've a lovable space that needs your face. It's we have a lovable space that needs your face have a livable. I don't know. You'll see life is a ball again, latte laughter is calling for you down at our rendezvous three's company to. Ever say that the bar in configuration kind of looks like. You did say that. Checking all the boxes. Or anything else you WANNA say about dark night of the scarecrow now man I feel like we've we've totally glossed over the fact that we watched a movie last week I. Think we did a lot of good work last week. I think we said everything there is to say. I. Was really impressed with how good A. I really liked it. and. You could TV movies. Yeah. How good a TV movie could actually be? Disturbing aiding, and we did say that Jocelyn Brando was Marlon Brando sister. A Mind explosion I feel like I never WANNA fueling. Jau. Again I have a feeling. We're going to see him again though we will rear ugly head. When you will. Let me be the first say fried chicken. Law. Probably not very long at all because he's dead. Jason. You as Flotsam with worms Oh. All right. Well let's wrap this up then. And you're Simon is the wash repo man sometime finding the next week and at least the Walker trailer at least the Walker trailer and what's highway patrolman and straight the help if you really want to be some extra credit. Have lots to talk about. By. Hey So. I didn't read a straight to hell a gang of bank robbers with a suitcase full of money go to the desert to hide out after bearing the loot they find their way to surreal town full of cowboys who drink an awful lot of. Should cut me off like that. A lot of coffee. The townspeople are hostile to the outsiders at first but seem to accept them once they've killed a couple of people. After a while a mysterious man named Dade, arrives who seems to have an unpleasant business to settle with the robbers a free for all shoot them up in ensues all this straight from IMDB. Give it that much of a plot. It it literally. Super High. You've been listening to the Arnall an empty cornfield production. 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Bands of your Life - Bob Bland edition

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Bands of your Life - Bob Bland edition

"How many how many? How many? How Manny? One two, three, four, five, six, seven, nine. WHO Would I get up to? Hello everyone, and welcome to a new episode of how many the only on casts on the Internet accounts. I am one of your host Jesse. Jackson joining me today is Gary. Gary L. Junior Lou and Bob. We are on series of episodes where we are giving tribute to sports radio thirteen ten, the new segment that they are doing bands of your life where they give eleven questions and you answer those questions with artist or band musicians but the kicker is you can only use one artist one band once on your list and I believe it is Bob's turn in the hot. Seat and junior is going to be asking the questions taken away guys Bob. The first question that I am dying to know is what band do you absolutely hate and do not get. So start off by giving us any honorable mentions you may have and then give me your answer I love your information give me a bullet pointed list a better not be British euro. Clean sweep of everybody hating depressed mode honorable mention is more hate and in the band I chose as more I don't get band honorable mention is cranberries and it's mainly because of those two hits linger and Zombie with the those annoying vocals ever put to microphone. It's interesting. You say that Bob, because you have two very notable Karaoke keys. dft You you have to. have. owned. And? It's like a goat gut shot. You say, but you on record as saying you like dream yes. do you like dreams even though there's at random yodel partner Oh. Oh That's my honorable mention but the ban that I'm going to say, I don't get more than hate because there are a couple of their songs I kinda like radiohead. I just don't get it mad enough with the brief loops are. It's like it's not just necessarily genius because you throw a bunch of crap against the wall. You know it's like the Jackson pollock of music. Thank God. Experimental unmanned. So many people rave about him and I think part of the allure may put on an amazing life show like I know Roy and some of the other guys on the ticket of really raised about they just got so weird that I record was kind of conventional. Creep. That was the big yet, which is a good song the more they further they got their crew works fair mental and just bizarre they I. Like a couple of their songs but I would almost put them in the overrated category as opposed to the hate category. It's almost like the Beatles thing where you almost get shamed into having to like them or else everybody thinks you're musical idiot they're definitely to music SNOB. Sure. Totally. Agree with that because I've had many times that people have looked down upon me because radiohead why does that matter with you? There's songs are weird because they drift into different tones like it'll have really long slow sections and all of a sudden everything will go crazy and it'll be chaos in some of that I like. But like you said probably a little overrated yeah. Could've put him in overrated as well. Speaking of overrated. What band do you think is overrated. So my honorable mention here is going to be smashing pumpkins like a couple of their songs, but most of it's just the beating disc. was. A. Bob Dylan Robert Zimmerman. Dylan's overrated. Yes. Was the when he did the bands of your life who really put it well, fantastic. Lewis's Godawful vocalist. That's it in a nutshell fuel young. He also has a really renewed voice. It's awful a lot but for some reason, I can totally hang with the new young boys but the Bob Dylan boys drained my life force. So many of psalms ramble the F. on other things like saving said that I agree with is covers Bob Dylan songs are always better than the old along the tower. Better moshing on heaven's door better. I got to see Bob Dylan live one time. I would consider it to be the best. I've ever heard him one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, six, when Tom Petty and the heartbreakers were his band. Oh. I felt like that band was so tie it made Bob Dylan be. I had tickets to see him at the end of June, and of course, it got canceled I've never seen him live as we talked about on our last episode. There's people that you go man I should see him in. Yes. Sam Lison will hate you. Getting out of the negative categories and moving into the positive band that is under appreciated. Okay. So there were several at thought of here the one that I'm going to use my runner up and not that people don't think they're good I think just people don't realize how many good songs they have cheap trick they. It like junior thinks they have like three hits or something and it's like they have so many mortgage Johnson that and they're also really great live but they are audible mention. Yes I'm honorable mention. Can I guess what I? Yes Lebeau. Not Man we are devaux. So obviously my. Them along with probably most people was. That was a big hit came out of nowhere and I love that album freedom of choice, and it wasn't until I went back and heard the first album. ARE WE GONNA? Though we almost like rock album is just so incredible. Love almost all there's there's so much more to them than meets the eye. They were a performance art collector and the whole reason they formed was because they were at Kent. State when those shootings happened, they witnessed the shootings at Kent. State Soda John said. started. chrissie Hi tenders they were all there. The whole thing is about the theory of evolution you know almost like idiosyncrasy hershiser a lot of that too. What seems like just kind of silliness I one, hundred percents agree with you. They are greatness now, Scott Jesse. Do you guys have any opinions on Depot Jesse I, think you were on record as saying they are one hit wonder right? All you would. Get No satisfaction exactly with the audit plan heads off a lot of it. I would have been more on board with cheap trick songs. I know of cheap trick are genius live of Buddha Khan, my roommate right out of college. David Fair loved that. CD. So we listened to it a lot but yeah, I got nothing on Devaux now Scott familiar with the Neil young devaux. And that's creepy as hell seeing them. Ill loved them Neil. Love Diva. But there's been other times that Neil and I have not been on the same page about bands will be like they were just too out there for me to get into Deebo is so hard since I, think that's their appeal to me very similar to the British new wave band that everybody else seems to hate I love them. All right speaking of love band that I. Love. This was tough. Obviously, we already talked about Van Halen had a big Van halen phase at a huge rush phase. Ahead. A huge queen phase but runner up's going to be Tom Petty and the heartbreakers. There's only been one tom petty song ever didn't like and it was only because they ran the video into the ground too much. But they're awesome. AM So bombed that I never saw them live but the band I love I'm going to go with the band that I think has the greatest studio of all time greatest live album of all time and the band that I think has the greatest concept album of all time. It's the WHO. Would've talked about his bed if I could go back in time. Leads, and I would be for live at C. in I that would have been so amazing. No Ban Todd that much wall energy and volume to have what was arguably zebras drummer of all time had what was almost unarguably the best basis of all time. Roger Daltry is one of the best vocalist ever and towns and awesome guitarist alot all stuff. WHO's next is the best album of all time they're solid. Fifteen to twenty, are you counting hear me? Green. Soon. Greenie greed. I was thinking Mama's got a squeeze box. I've almost dometic karaoke because it's such a funny bit song. I've always looked at the WHO as being a real hit and miss type of bands. They have some songs that I think are just their century breakers a songs that will live forever. Then they have some songs that I think this just crap they have some some spare songs. It's just not the consistency there, and for me I agree about Kit as being drummer the guy was a monster. You know my friend the late great reckless go was a huge who fan and he always talk about that moon loved beech voice you like always like, Hey, we should surface in. The guys like, no, we're not doing serving I. Know Nothing about the WHO accept the hits I did some episodes onset lesson Greece where I picked tend not so well known springsteen songs I think that would be fun for who episode, Aright Fan that you can listen to over and over again, this would was really tough originally had ACDC on here but there my runner up I never ever get tired of ACDC I agree I agree completely for the band I put here Ryan's is GonNa. Agree with me on this one because it's the greatness of steely. Dan. Oh. Okay On this one. No static at all the. Kind of the complete package because the lyrics are just they're impeccable they can play so many different tempos and styles of music and it's the flexibility. It's so great. They were genius enough to bring in like Michael McDonald, pissing on some of their songs Mark Knopfler was odds tracks on Gouge. Does they really are just an amazing man in it's mainly just those two guys Bell Fagin and Walter Becker's now bob, did you get to see them live? No, I never got to see them live late for that buddy well, not necessarily because Donald Fagan still tours steely Dan. Now you mentioned Michael. McDonald was he doing the backup on paddle and? Yes I would put steely Dan kind of in the same vein as the WHO because I think that when steely Dan is really really good. They're really really good and when they're not so good they're discount of mad I hear the song do it again it's almost other worldly. So longest time I thought that song was Santana so. I thought that was saying Tanto probably for years it is such a huge headphones song. I could easily see somebody's sitting there listening to that and taking a couple of hits and high school greatly under appreciated by me and it wasn't until I got a little older I started saying, yeah they've got some really really good stuff out there buddy. Oh, and say the same thing it wasn't really until college that I probably started getting more and more into them and it's because I actually thought steely Dan only had. Like three or four hits it wasn't until Bob, gave me CD of steely Dan's greatest hits that I expanded out my number two like between ten and fifteen you sold me on steel again but you won't do it to me for cheap trick. I will not make that same concession. All right. So next up band that made me fall in love with music. Now, I had a couple of options here one band that I was gonNA use here because I actually wrote an article got published in a magazine about did. Martha and under WHO GIVES A it's all my website to whenever read it. It's about grand funk railroad because when I was a kid and my dad would go to the record store, he would not mind me a brand new record. All he would let me pick was from US twenty, five, cent record bands. I got all the grand funk albums us. So they would be my runner up but I the one I went with is the rolling stones? Of the reason. Is. Same Way Kyrie was talking about how? A. Lot of his musical love of his mom. I get the same thing from. Adad cycle through the same handful tracks over and over again and one of them rose rolling stones as in the which it's basically was one of an earlier it's record for my. Late sixties early seventies that was my first exposure to the rolling stones and hearing those songs so much over and over again, I just really liked them. You know before that it was almost all just stuff I heard on am radio. Public stuff and that was really like Oh. Wow. There's music beyond the hit song. Yeah. I kind of put the rolling stones in the same category that Gary was putting the Beatles in earlier by like a lot of their songs but it's almost like you're you almost have to like them right I always have liked them over the Beatles just because I think there's more edge to now there is more of an effort to the stones and the Beatles. So I was talking about that earlier Persona Colin Hanks Tom Hanks Kid and he joined we got this. It's a similar podcast US except you know they have more listeners but. A Bait Danes Choices Rolling Stone or Beatles they ended up going just slightly by the Beatles because of influence. But they really made a good discussion on it shouldn't be slammed up by the way I. Just Google the eight track that you talked about Bob. That's a really nice. That was a huge entry point into the eight tracks. My Dad had in heavy rotation was that one goodbye yellow brick road by John and shotgun. Willie Willie Nelson I would take those re CD's right. Now, that would not make a bad road trip Kelly ever listened to in the car with my dad was the bill mack open road show was hard. Hit yesterday hard bill just just interesting. How much your parents will influence your musical tastes because not only that I get that stuff through my dad to the checks. But when I would turn and I've got my first record player, I inherited my mom's collection of forty fives that she had listened to when she was a teenager so. Be exposed to some sixty stuff like bees and some other hands than I ever heard before. All right next up band that changed my life. This was also kind of a split decision. These are both man's I was exposed to roughly the same time. One of the band's is Jane's addiction my runner up because at that point, they really were more of a kind of a college fan and I heard. The nothing shocking albums that blew me away and I could not stop listening to it. But the one that catapulted me for the whole indie music thing was the replacements. There was a radio station in Austin, poke LBJ that L. Listen to, and unlike most of the stations back and they would periodically mix in stuff. You would normally hear on radio and I heard a replacement Song Alex Chilton of what is who is this Mike I've never heard of them. I've never heard of any other song. That's how mainstream I was at that point I had never heard of let it be Ernie. And not knowing anything about him I just immediately I hope so I gotta get the record so pleased to meet me and I. Just love all of it down while the Bass player is your age and he started the band was like twelve or thirteen years old like Oh God. That's awesome. I would love to be that guy there the first day and then I'm like, okay not everything I listened to has to be something that gives played on the radio and I will say I've never heard the replacing all. Familiar. With they're not allowed only I've heard the name though they had a pretty infamous appearance on Saturday night live like in the mid eighties is Astra's. Live performances were legendary because every now, and then you catch them on just an amazing night where they were just like the best live in in the world. But the other two or three times they were smashed and couldn't even play their instrument. The older brother of a bass player was talking about with original guitarist and he drank himself to death. There were very interesting band. They've had documentaries about they changed everything for me. I got to see them at the Bronco Bowl. Wow. Now I'm jealous their. Open for them. The show was an hour late guitarist and singer came out they performed two songs and then left, and then the replacements came out, blew the place away. I got to go backstage I was sitting talking to dense in the bass player like what the hell happened because the drummer got arrested in the baseball refused to go onstage without the drummer there are waiting hoping that they were going to get him out of jail and get into the show on time, but he didn't make so wow. Yeah. Tommy Stinson Bass players, the one I was talking about the real young Gary would be intrigued in later years. He was the bassist for guns and roses most the last fifteen, twenty years i. think he even was one of the ones that played on Chinese democracy in minutes were one of the things that I most proud about him is that I got my son interested in them and he really likes them. Now next step the band that surprised you I think this was the artist of all the categories. My runner up is Porter Wagner I always just remember the show he was the host and they'd bring Dolly Parton out all that stuff I started really trying to back fill catalog with some of the older country music. I can't stand modern country music and I got a collection of his stuff. I was just blown away by the songs and the lyrics and how dark some of that stuff seth, my runner up. But for my band that's surprising. Most Juniors GonNa hate this one because he hates this girl talk. Generals gathered in the mass. Say. That's not a real band. That's just a DJ mixing a bunch of different songs together. I know that's what surprised me about it is normally I don't go in for the whole raid thing. I heard grow talk album all day, and it's beyond mashups got my fond of youth mashups this youtube and typically it's like two songs mash together. But this style was built pot does his songs her absolute huskies of whole bunch of different song and he calls me Tiki Wiki boys known as an album. It did something similar goals. How does is basically creates music out of the entirety from all of the sample it's just incredible way he does it to me it's so cool to hear rap. With copper with hard rock, I played it for junior one time a he sabotaged undersold. I am a fan of mashups like I like those Youtube mashups where you take two songs and you put together right at girl talk is one continuous mixed that takes a heine pieces, inserts them in for about thirty seconds, and then it immediately goes to something else. A thing of it is usually takes about two or three of the songs and uses them as the backbone throughout, and then just mixes in some other stuff. The way that particular album woods just was perfect now Jesse Scott where you guys familiar with girl. Yes. Girl Talk to me it was just like, oh, it's a passing fad. They mentioned him on the ticket and I think that Jake some of them saw him perform like one of those festivals on by the way Bob Beastie boys could be on my overrated list Tara. They will definitely be on future list enough of whip girl talk next up guilty pleasure my runner up here she because actors. is they're so so heavily sampled rapper's delight would suck without the good times baselines. It's awesome. But what I really think works here as a guilty pleasure is radio station Kunr. And the reason I put him here is not for the Beatles I. genuinely enjoy. Solo. Ringo Starr I think songs like photograph don't come easy the no no song his greatest hits is awesome for and I just think people write him off as a hack. He was a spur. He wasn't a good drummer kind of a punch line of the beetle brought an awesome studio musicians and songs just really good voice was well suited for the hyper songs that he did I agree one of my regrets is you know he toured all star Band like Clarence Clemen and Kneels Lofgren just a lot of great people I agree if you read people who really respect drummers, they talk about how good he was. I. Would've almost put him man that is under appreciated even though he's a beadle as a standalone you're right he had only I always feel like I need to advocate Russillo were because everybody always says, all Paul McCartney Solo Wings Awesome John Stuff's awesome tortures. Ringo has a lot of really good stuff as well plus March Simpson painted a photograph of them much. Thanks for the painting of yours truly. I don't mean wall you'll quite. Question yes we do have burgers and fries in England, but we call French fries, chips love Ringo all right next step and I should have seen live by now. Okay. So Tom Petty is out of the running died Elvis Costello was my runner up one of these days of gotta see Elvis Costello Live can do Veronica and then walk off the stage. No. He's got about forty at least but the ban on putting here is fighters or s Christopher walken was eight fighters musical guest foo fighters I. Don't know why but I assumed you were Chinese. Another. Corona is preventing. Wife's favorite band and I love him as well and we were GONNA go see him in Oklahoma City and April to they were doing this twenty th anniversary tour I. Got Us really good seats better arena and then Kobe hit. But got rescheduled for December also an last week tour canceled. Arable. So no through fighters for me if you're Kobe heads, I would have seen him. We talked a little bit about missing people that had died and I somehow never saw the eagles during their original tour and then when they hell freezes over tour and so they were coming to Dallas with Vince Gill playing, and we had tickets and Cova canceled it, and then they rescheduled. It's FA- canceled it still you know hopefully, you got that thousand dollar refund. FOO FIGHTERS THE SOLID And guest starred on the West Wayne set the. Foo Fighters. Cat. That is You've actually got nine performers doing sets from seventy. Club. Foo Fighters. So Dave Grohl is finally gotten out of the Oh. He's just the drummer for Nirvana Phase I think he's surpassing anything Nirvana ever did I think his music is better you can't just say Oh, well, he's popular because he was in Nevada look Chris Nova sell it. was a piece of trash. I'm with you on the FOO fighters. They did a documentary a few years back Abou- starting of the band, my son and I went stood online at some theater for like two hours and we got to go in, they showed the documentary and then a live via satellite of them in the studio or forming their new album live right there on the screen of them in. It was amazing. You know that's really cool in at sonic highways. Thing was really awesome to kicked eight or ten cities in the US would go to those cities and Dave. GROHL would write a song about each of those cities and then they've made an album with those songs. Concept, last question great band to seed live. He knew the C. J. indie stuff was going to surface at some point runner up for band called my morning jacket that I have seen live and they're one of those bands that are much better live than on record. But yes, guided by voices either my live band. Credible. So awesome about them is their lead singer is a guy who's now sixty years old maybe sixty two something like that, and he still does hiking expedient a hundred song show year's eve last year in La that lasted over four hours now, no strings team is older than that and has kind of endurance. But this guy if edible what he does and they're very prolific, they've been around since the eighties and nobody knows of them except you know an indie circles. But, their live show is that ass I saw him at trees couple years ago and it was incredible. They just bring in almost every one of their songs super short like less than three minutes and they just go for one right next to the next to the on the dude has a giant massive beer cooler behind him on stage and he's just shrugging the whole show and high kick in and businesses. Awesome. Jesse Gary Are you familiar with guided by voices This junior next time we come through town I'll buy your ticket and Gary to all you guys. We ought to make a road trip of it e by chicken. Rather go see Max Sabbath again Mexico's pretty awesome. Thing real. Cinnabon Jovi. Interesting. Okay. All right. Well, that was an interesting list. Gary do you have any feedback on all of BOB'S I can tell you I was listening very intently as reasonable. I didn't say anything during that whole thing Bob cheated and had depeche mode disaster for like five of these questions. All Right Hey, pretty solid little list went a little independent would I would expect you to do i? Do think it's funny that so far Naronha the Beatles and Bob Dylan Order overrated. Doing. All right. Hey, thanks a lot where he would love to hear your picks of the bands of your life. If they want to reach us, how can they junior they can reach out to us by email how many podcasts? gmail.com. They can't leave a message on Youtube Channel just search for the how many podcast they can send us a tweet on the how many twitter account or you can send me a tweet directly even though I won't read it Mexican underscore junior and you can hear me at Jesse. Jackson DFW. Gary. and Bob Lukewarm Tabor and Scott it's GS material on instagram got underscore material on the twitter and you can go to I tunes or wherever you get your podcast rate as review. Alright. So this is the end of this episode but hey, keep subscribing because raw taken a turn and we're all going to shave abandoned life. But for now, thank you be safe wherever masks and we'll talk to you. These are the bands.

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The Masked Singer

Pratt Cast

37:24 min | 1 year ago

The Masked Singer

"The holidays there's no better way to get in the Christmas spirit then with new lifetime movies twenty four seven all day everyday starting October twenty fifth with more than a thousand hours of Yuletide themed programming and sixty plus days of holiday movies on lifetime it's time to kick up your feet he's bald he was on SNL for a couple years he's a fantastic musician he's written some songs rolling fire time with Family Holiday Romances Winter Wonderland and new lifetime movies twenty four seven all day every day and Letterman's like right hand guy for thirty four years he's so close with Laura Michaels he was one of the guys from a show called the mass singer which on all accounts is probably the lowest thing on his resume totem pole by the way do you guys know I'm talking about you probably don't and that's messed up his name is Paul Schaefer that's right he was the bandleader maybe his origin story is everything that happened leading up to the most recent thing which is the massingir which is bonkers that that's how I got him on the show but it does and you know who did that with Eugene Levy who you guys probably know from Shits Creek or American Pie I guess this guy's done freaking everything viewed my fiance one time a couple years ago and most recently and this is the weird thing that you guys are going to F- Noam is there any other generation `nother thing was is that way back in the beginning in Toronto he did a little a little thing called God spell does it really matter so seriously sit back relax and enjoy because this is gonna be one of the coolest interviews you've heard at least I hope it is with a guy who's accolades and let's see if you can figure out in your car or wherever the hell you are who I'm about to have on the show all right he's a Canadian the wells cast the holidays there's no better way to get in the Christmas spirit then with the warm cracks is that created the blues brothers and if you don't know what the Blues Brothers is to go learn some stuff all right it's one of the most iconic movies of our Oh you definitely know oh by the way he was the leading force of one of the most popular late night television shows to ever air on network TV key in was the skeleton and he was voted off before Halloween which what were the producers thinking at least get into Halloween because it makes no sense whatever Megan hilty Marie Osmond Melissa Joan Hart Kim Fields Kelly Rowland Hillary Burton and so many more treat every day like Christmas born way too late to experience the ravenous that is my next guest okay and I'm going to say his name let's just go through some of his starting October twenty fifth with more than a thousand hours of Yuletide theme programming and sixty plus days of holiday movies on lifetime it's time to and make lifetime your destination for new holiday movies twenty four seven starting October twenty fifth the all new Tyson Air Fried Chicken is the best thing and I wanted to do an origin story about him but it looks like he came out of the womb kicking ass and taking names which is all well and good so you know what I can't tell you how excited I am about today's episode and I I the feeling that a lot of you guys might not be excited about it that's because you were I will forget more about entertainment and music and just being famous than anyone probably will ever learn quick break when we come back Paul Freakin shaffer kick up your feet get cozy and comfortable and enjoy it's a wonderful lifetime with SOA televisions and music's most beloved stars including Movies Twenty Four seven starting October twenty fifth this is a wells cast with atoms and iheartradio podcast double nuggets strips and fillets Tyson Air Fried Chicken is bay with real all white meat chicken and no antibiotics ever they're ready in twenty minutes or less the happened fried chicken since well Fried Chicken this fried chicken has seventy five percent less fat than USDA breaded fried and boneless chicken. I've interviewed a lot of people in my day I don't know if I've ever been more excited to hear this guy's story even have your meal or snack ready in no time the best part is no air fryer needed plus each serving offers approximately fifteen to twenty grams of protein so it'll help keep us satisfied long after the carefree indulgence it's the lightest fried chicken they've ever made it's all pleasure and no guilt and you sorry I guess you guys know him right now from being the skeleton on the mass singer but he's done much more than that entered the wells cast Paul Shaffer and when they became well known but what's interesting to me is like how the hell did you get there like what happened between you know coming out of your mother to getting to the point and you just got kicked off the mass singer I ceremony Asli Yeah I might add yes and I don't know what the hell they were thinking number one how do you leading Air Fryer just pop it out of the freezer in the oven digging it's the best thing to happen to fried chicken since Yeah Fried Chicken get it while it's hot do not keep the skeleton until at least Halloween I'm telling you really they the merchandising they missed out skeleton Paul Shaffer skeleton outfits and when you come out of that trailer you gotTa have a Hoodie yeah and a mask like a visor like you're in men in black and you can't even how are you man wells I can't tell you how throw land to be with you I'm just terrific how you I mean I'm a little starstruck Outta here come on I've had friends who have been on that show and then I have a friend actually who is a choreographer on the show and so I learned which is just bonkers to me like they keep you guys were you got to be so well known so this is kind of an origin story podcast alright but I wanNA start before we get there wanNA start where we are right now have you know you're rich showing from other gloves they don't want to give anybody even a guy on the crew should get a hint you know if you show part of the fun when you watch the show back Do you have theories on who is in those costumes you know they change I had theories after doing after I saw that hidden from like everybody people don't realize how seriously they take the security et and the secrecy yes they keep you away and your own trailer they do a mind trip on you which is which is a lot of fun that's awesome you're also hosting A A really cool show called Paul Shaffer plush one and is is that just I get to hang out with my friends show well I mean I wish I could say that I got people on there oh well I didn't think I was going to get to I got farther than I thought I would actually because it turns out that it's a real singing competition you know with masks and every everybody kind of knows me a little bit most of my guests have played with me one way or the other you know and this is Joe Walsh into Donald Fagan anything else makes it a lot harder to try to do it but really the people judges and and crowded you're listening to your voice yeah seeing if they can hear a good sound agreement I won't divulge who this is yeah you're not supposed to really talk the dancers at they don't know who you are you know then you've got the big skeleton thing on your head you're trying to rehearse and dance and Oh man billy gibbons is on this and I know and I was like wow this is so cool this is gotta be a dream job because I mean it's a it's like almost like a banners no tracks and we don't have background vocals on is just the guy what billy gibbons really sounds like playing and singing you really get to hear Martin Short I know this man that's him or I was going to retire from the business well yeah you and I are going to go into the US tire yes to retire Sirius. Xm I've been doing it for a while our versions of this show and now action has come along and they edited down to the best half hours I show yeah and then after I shot last night I watched myself being on Matt Yeah I I I was wrong well obviously I couldn't be right about everybody sounded affront yeah and I didn't know who anybody was anymore I absolutely have no idea maybe Martin short I I may have been I don't even know anymore that's what the Hagar smokey Robinson I can't say I'm friends with I you know I wish I got to hang out with them more but I do talk them into coming on and the hook of this show is no like as someone who is amassing do you know who the other massing audit all I make sure that you don't that's part of the reason why they keep you know they keep you out of the studio until the first guy for it I think that's unusual often these people you know they don't want you to hear them without the computers and the studio tricks so this is just what you see is what you get they all thought you were Martin Shaw that was hilarious yes he is one of my best friends yeah we both come from Canada Yeah we both started out in the business together Dan it's impossible and you're saying yourself who got me into this and then you realize it was just me I wonder said Yes do you but raised in a small town on the north called Thunder Bay Ontario a very rugged isolated town which was based on You just so you know like the idea of this show is there's a lot of famous people there's lot of celebrities a lot of really talented people and everyone kind of knows their story when they became famous you didn't exactly fit in I was a great skier though we skin thirty below weather yeah come down once frozen full-face frozen toes that's interesting and then you get into a room with the choreographer and the dancers you're not even forced to talk oh well it the choreography you could talk to her but he because he signed a legal the amethyst mine that's their shipping grain on up through the Great Lakes and pulp and paper you know and you have my dad was a lawyer in this small we have instruments you know I've got a keyboard there and if like Joe Walsh how does guitar and when he starts to talk about you know I wrote life in the fast lane it was really just an exit almost like sensory deprivation out the you know you're involved in the day and then even when I put my conscience space helmet so it was a little disconcerting for that reason forced hang session jam session it's a hanging jam yeah yes it is and the other thing is no band you know these people come on with without the and Yeah I've had an awful lot of wonderful experience I just feel blessed to tell you it's been so great so let's go back to the kind of the beginning before snl before letter town you had to be very outdoorsy you had to love sports you had to love being rugged and camping and I was none of that so I didn't him and all that stuff you're from Canada Canada correct and just tell me about growing up where you came up in a small town born in Toronto but I stayed in Toronto I was playing around playing bars playing for Bar mitzvahs wedding you know whatever I could get and then I show a New York show called and he called me up he says I think your the skeleton I said I think your this because Kim Jong was was sure that it was him any and only study done yeah song his song done done the interview it and he'd gone then they bring you in so you don't even hear the other people singing yeah they do their best to just isolate you it's on up there he said I want you to come to New York yeah play on Broadway for me and in nineteen seventy four came to New York and played the magic show on Broadway music by Stephen Schwartz and then everybody has just been amazing musically you know we talk about things yeah but when they finally get to let's sing a little event Oh man they're they are this far away and then I think they we broadcasted on Wednesday yeah I got Paul Shaffer in the studio right now I'm a huge fan of yours I mean before you can God spell in the early nineteen seventies Jesus rock musical called God's fell very cute show and it came to Toronto due to cast and and put a company so I did and I was practicing my chopin in my little most heart h huge and then rock and roll I hit the radio this is how law goes and when I heard chest killed me and I started set a proxy my panelists started learning how to play these songs Ju just like a kid garage ron learning by ear you know all this from me is like I am with you terrific so cool when can people watch that this is on Syria There are sorry this is on access TV Sunday nights at eight up there and the composer whose names Stephen Schwartz he has wicked running on Broadway I think the longest running musical in history this was his first show though and and they put them on Sunday nights at eight so thank you for mentioning it policy over plus one it's called yeah yeah looking to your instagram account and you have videos of excerpts of the show and it's like to a far fetched be in Showbiz a as a living Canadians up north you know you kidding they don't you know they would never gonNa do and you get to New York around go ahead okay so you came from this place where it was kind of everyone was was rough and tumble necsports skiing kind of stuff how how did you get into music in college yeah exhausted I had a nine o'clock clash Italian and by ten thirty I was back in bed sleep oh just I you know today they always got Epstein I gotTa Try Music you know so when I graduated from University of Toronto I stayed in town I just started playing in bands in those days they had bar bands in you know and when I graduated from college which was in sociology by the way so I'm analyzing you as we sit here as you should but what can one do well you got to go in one time yeah and then I went to school in Toronto to college there and I got to like a a real city on that God spell it was obviously before my time and I saw that Eugene Levy was a part of that production as well as smart as well as Martin Short as well as Andrea Martin who has still makes me laugh harder than anybody else yeah Victor Garber who was an alias and the titanic he was the lead in it it was a hell of a all these people you know eh right from the from the get-go hanging out every night just as you say you know having drinks sometimes Marty short would put on a cassette this how long ago cassette machine replan the piano at the auditions and he hired me and I was All of a sudden conducting Gospel in Toronto I I'd never done anything like that before and after I did it for him for a year did you realize the talent that was surrounded just in this little production in Toronto I just graduated I I I gravitated to these people because they were get cozy and comfortable and enjoy it's a wonderful lifetime treat every day like Christmas and lifetime your destination for new holiday almost colored people who were around twenty two at the time yeah everybody went out and audition and that Guy Schwartz he picked through everybody and founded ten really funny talented people the the challenge of the Orleans in Chiffon 's on there are Elvis of course the four seasons this stuff you know this early rocks Amen I kind of did this like long lead in all debates going over your resume which is bonkers by the way it's gotta be settled I'm an old old man who had been around forever maybe I'll be a lawyer like my dad I didn't seem no I don't think so maybe I'll be a you know a maybe professor I didn't know but all I knew that I had to sleep all the time bands in clubs playing live music I played everywhere I could and then just by this fluke I got hired to do that show got spell I was reading show funny and entertaining and they seem to be having a better time than I was I said I I want to get in on that you know so we all started hanging very heavily oh I was just sad I wasn't playing in the second year I start playing a little bit on the side I cheered up right away I wasn't tired anymore and that's when I said I've got it and just blew the microphone say let's just be funny yeah and just see what happens or Gilda Radner God bless her I've been she was in that company to yeah and then she got became a star on Saturday night live after that but I was just infatuated with these people and we were we were laughing twenty four hours a day but yet I thought boy why don't you know I mean everyone knows now Eugene Levy from American pie or from Shits Creek because he is going up and it's it's obvious when you see it now you're like yeah this is for coordination on guitars it will play a little of it and he's got his guitar right there and by the type for you know what he's singing it and I'm playing beyond that's the idea that they and I was doing it on are they gonNa buy me that's all that's all they say to me up there you know but when I went to college you know I didn't know what I was going to show business too far fetched could you play music comeback took piano lessons my parents were the kind of parents who said that kid is going to take lessons and he is going to be musical yeah and so is hilarious he's so funny but I wonder like in that moment when you're twenty two years old probably drink every night and you know burn the candle at both ends sociology. What's what somebody takes you don't know what you're GonNa do yeah I realized while I was in college I I gotTa Try Music I was too happy to do it any other way when I graduated Saturday night live started in seventy five and I was kind of then I was on TV okay so on rewriting the wheels yeah you don't get to just kind of like blow songs only at three chords anyway I learned to see F and G and I could play every all the songs you know and that became my passion claim by year still true now the US has has recognized them too they're all doing so well speaking of all that talent that you worked with Rondo then you move to New York and ever get to New York or the L. A. The states man that's going to be that's where the true talented people really are when I got here I found those people were they were really something and I think that was all the guys we had at the time I don't think I'm a fan and the girls were Jane Curtain and Gilda and Lorraine Newman can you just tell us and everyone out there who was on the cast when you when you were out snl so I mentioned Chevy Chase Yeah Gilda Radner from right here in Los Angeles who is the funniest person who's the person that made you against break up well everybody was funny certainly Chevy back then was areas yeah we never saw anything so funny but everybody had something Aykroyd you know his own crazy a metal head and show Lorne A. had this concept and he made it happen and I don't know you know I watched him very carefully were were bizarre Belushi of course very talented very driven very focused I could go on on Bill Murray was the first replacement when Chevy left he knew what he was doing but yet he led a lot he left a lot of things open and you know Chevy Chase came along joined the show as a writer I think and the next thing you know he was boomer we hadn't seen before you know so lauren cast it from a lot of people came from that second shitty yeah and after God spell in Toronto we had our own second city club to an Internet live he called me up I was doing Broadway and that's how I got on the show and I meet Lorne who is a young guy not you know just a little older than I am I I was offshoot of the of the Chicago nightclub they can't they found Gilder there they found Eugene there they had moved transition already from from God's spell to Second City Yeah John Belushi one of the first guys who I met when I came to New York just through that a second city crowd you know I got introduced to Belushi Dan Aykroyd was from candidates more than to be on Saturday night live of all the things that I've done that seems like the coolest job in the world and you are on the I guess the front lines of the Industrial strength type of references that he had he know about space and he knew about factories and the type of sketches he wrote Chu I knew him from Canada a little bit Garrett Morris I had never met before also I I think came on as a writer I and then Lorne made him performance there's point twenty five so maybe he was twenty seven twenty eight that's all he was you know and he had this idea for a show that was going to be based on the kind of theater that was happening at the beginning of the whole thing that's right what was your thought was it just like Oh this is another Gig this another idea this Laura Michaels guy might have something or were you like Oh this is going to be a thing you know I was used to long run says that God spell in Toronto had done a year and then this Broadway show was a year I I was kind of used to it running you know I thought on the second city nightclub in Chicago is very big for improvised comedy young kids improvising and with a kind of sense from Canada he's a big of a film composure now he and I had met and played together in Toronto when he got to Toronto with Lauren to to put together a host fan I in my line with hey how about that Nutty Star Wars Barr thank you I wrote that sation do the first guy to do weekend update you know what can I say it really was very exciting it was live going into the first show I said how are we going to hi I'm Jake Casson Co founder and CEO of movement we don't have to choose between style in quality you get both starting just ninety five dollars we have hundreds of watch styles to choose how does this start up run by to college dropouts turn to the fastest growing watch brand in the world simple by making clean quality watches you can actually afford from but we don't stop there we also make premium sunglasses computer lenses Angeleri get fifteen percent off today with free shipping and free returns by going to M V my run I never I think it was going to run what is it forty five years now but it was incredible and Lorne came to town Lawrence bandleader was a guy named Howard shore. 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David Crosby Reflects On Musical Projects, Past And Present

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David Crosby Reflects On Musical Projects, Past And Present

"You're listening to World Cafe. I'm Rena Dora's near the beginning of the recent documentary of David Crosby's life. There's a black and white clip of the Beatles being interviewed in nineteen, sixty six and in the background just off on the side of the stage there's a young clean-shaven mop David crosby peaking in watching with a huge grin on his face before he disappears back behind the curtain it's a really quick moment but it captures something about crosby that I think has been a theme throughout his long life and career. Not. Only has always seemed to want to be part of the action he almost always has been. Today the Cross joins me to talk about that documentary and talk about musical projects past and present including his recent work with his light has bandmates, Becca, Stevens, Michelle, Willis, and Michalik Oh, until also tell us what he really thinks of Jim Morrison and the doors to kick things off a song from an album. He's recently reissued from. Aban. He started in the mid nineties with his son. The band is called CPR and this is the title track from their album just like gravity. Like gravity from the group CPR, the C. stands for Crosby as in David Crosby to CPR's albums just perceived reissues a few months ago and today David. Crosby. Is My guest David Welcome back to the World Cafe. It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you. It's great to have you here. We're GONNA talk about those CPR reissues in a bit but I I just wanted to check in because we're making the show remotely due to the lockdowns of the pandemic and all of that we're talking over video chat right now I'm all the way up in Toronto where exactly are you at the moment? I am in central California. Behind Santa, Barbara in a valley called Santa Ynez Valley And it's very odd here right now because the fires have made it so that you can't see the sky. People yesterday in in San Francisco we're seeing it was like darkness at noon the spooked it was so bad at. The whole west coast is kind of on fire and. It's beautiful where I am right this second but that's because my place is beautiful is grass and trees I got beautiful trees around here. It's a little place. It's not big. It's an adobe house sitting in the middle of trees. And It's peaceful. That's one of the best parts I should say that it is September tenth when we're doing this today, and like you said, huge parts of the west coast are consumed by wildfires right now. Are you safe? There is Keeping an eye on it and stuff. Yeah. No I live in the middle of a cow pasture. In a in a bunch of trees but but in the middle of cow pasture and my houses adobe with a tile roof so it doesn't burn. And No we're not in any danger right now. We're just which would that. Wasn't going on because you know there's tremendous loss of wealth wife tremendous loss of trees which I love. And on Tough it's tough to watch it on. Yeah I'm really glad that you're okay and I see that we have this chance to talk It's exciting that you've reissued these CPR because most people are listening are likely familiar with CS and whose names those letters stand for but maybe not as familiar. As they are with their later group CPR, we know the C. stands for Crosby tell us about the person the P. stands for. Jeff P. Bar is a guitar player friend of mine. I hurt him. He was playing guitar for Mark Cohen and. I just loved how he played. He's a, he's a wonderful player. And then we get to the are and that's a really good story Yeah Dame's Raymond. You probably do know the story. The rest of the world probably mostly of this story. Let's check again anyway. Yes, it. In A long time ago. I cost a baby to be born I'm not gonNA say how but can guess. And He was put up for adoption by his mother and. Many years later. Okay. How many many years later like thirty years later? Having spent all of that time knowing that there was a kid out there and not able to track that kid not able to know and worrying, of course torturing myself. So easily dumpster to snowstorm somewhere. And on. Wondering, truthfully honest to God wandering and. So now I'm in the UCLA and dying. Of God Hepatitis C. and I am literally trying they're trying to save my life, but it's not going well. But everybody in the world does worry 'em. I mean Ucla and it's in the papers. He's UCLA to transplant. Scott. And so I'm getting in Ucla in the hospital room. Santa Claus size bags of mail. I mean the huge. Yeah and they don't come out on a on the other bed in the room rate and there'd be like a mound, a huge amount of letters and we go through them because I had to do. And I get a letter that says, hi, we're John Madeline Raymond and we raise your son James. Well. and. I I know somehow we know. That this is the one now I've gotten a couple of others and they were fakes, but this one. I knew it was right. Somehow I knew it was. We ranch to meet at. UCLA. On any watching the door, the of the little. Cafe there and he's Just beautiful. He's a beautiful young man. He's he's really really. A beautiful young man and he comes over and talks to me. and. He does the most wonderful thing. You normally those meet ups go very badly. Everybody brings too much baggage you win. We're good enough for you and mom. He didn't do that. He gave me a clean slate and let me earn his my way in his life and become his friend and his father. and. It's one of the kind things versi nudity do and and really has changed my life because he has become. My best writing partner in life. The best one I've ever worked with is a better musician than I am. and. I mean by considerable amount. Educated musician and a keyboard player in the really brilliant composer. Writer. Nine. So that's the story on CPR. I couldn't resist go in forming a band with James and I have been working with him ever since he he was also keyboard player and see us and he was also keyboard player and Crosby Nash. If I work in a band. He's the keyboard player and. He's been Wonderful. He's actually on fire right now, the new record that were just made A. It's at least half him writing. He's brilliant writer. Now I mean. It's kind of amazing that this man that you did not raise yourself ended up being a musician all on his own so that. Nature versus nurture thing. Really. Really. If anybody ever told not unique, you send them to me I'll talk to him. Australia right on for. So. So how did it go from that first meeting at Ucla to actually playing music together? What were the steps in between? Getting to know him a little and then I brought him a set of words. Because they found that keyboard player, you can play you know they brought him instead of words. and. He came back and had a cassette and he put it in the cassette player in his little Toyota truck. And played me Morrison the Song Morrison. I'd written settler about Jim Morrison. Margin particularly like but I think, I understood him pretty well, and it was a good set of words and he played me back song that blew my mind and at that point I realized that I was off on a really well sleigh ride and it's only just gotten better. They do want to play Morrison next because it is the first time you guys wrote together. and. There's this lyric in Morrison and I have seen that movie and it wasn't like that and you're talking about the ninety ninety-one Oliver Stone movie the doors. So. If it wasn't like the movie made him seem what was it actually like? DUMBER Movie was the movie was fairly Servizi in the first place it wasn't really a fantastic job but. What happened man was Um? What's his name that? Played Morrison? Val kilmer I think no. Yeah it vowed. Got Hold me and he said You you knew him and you know like him he'll tells me out. Fantastic. He was I gotTa play this Guy I want to know more when you talk to me and I said sure So we started talking and it actually after that, we became friends for a long time. And I told them. Everything, that I felt about more I. I really didn't. Like him as a person. I thought he was kind of very fake very. Very dramatic, very posed. You know very. Not Real not a real guy and not a good singer at all and not a good writer I didn't like anything about. Now tell us what you really think. I didn't I didn't dig them. I. Didn't dig that Band because I didn't think they swung. They have a bass player and the keyboard player would play Bass with his left hand on. It must've been are far fees at a sound that bad but it sounded like. Senator Awful and it never swung. He just didn't ever understand what swinging was feet. He couldn't do it. You couldn't group. So they're sanctuary stiff, legged, and kind of square wheeled and kind of clunky. grooved. And I didn't like that and I was pretty pretty. Open about that, but the song is different. It's not criticize its critique of the band or the music it's. The guy looked like a lost soul to me. You start with the image of seagull blown into the desert. Kind of like that. I've always wondered. How I'm glad. Nice of you that's very respectful and very good and very, very professional also. Unusual people don't generally do as much work as you've. A pleasure to do it when I'm talking to you so. Let's play Morrison right away. So so people can so people can hear what we're talking about. This Morrison from CPR unrolled cafe. Lack of goal blown. Bidding. Latin. Paris. Grave Yard. You just heard Morrison the song from CPR, not be life saving move, but the band made up of David Crosby Guitarist, JEFF PR in be son and Keyboardist James Raymond there nine, hundred, Ninety, eight self titled Debut Closer Second. Just like gravity reissued over the summer today unrolled Cafe David Crosby joins me. And so that's on skuld Morrison last time you were on world cafe and a half ago you talked about the new documentary that Cameron Crowe made about you called remember my name and it wasn't out at the time. It's out now Jim Morrison does kind of make an appearance in that doc when you're looking at him in the Laurel Canyon Country Store and you call him a Dork thought was very, very funny. Of that candor and that frankness and honesty persists throughout the whole film like you're super open about everything. Good things bad things that have happened in your life. Did that kind of openness come easily you? Know No. No. It's hard to be honest if you've made a lot of mistakes. Now, if you had a perfect life, then you can tell everybody everything and use be glorious. I'm not glorious I messed up a lot. What happened there is to Cameron. Cameron. The youngest guy who got writing for rolling stone and he showed up. Sixteen years old. and. He showed up and he was the brightest kid we had ever met. And we love to. So I took a joint in his mouth and introducing this girl is mom's never going to forgive me. But we became friends. And he's been my friend ever since. So. He was there in the room. When she s and what was going on. He knows. The truth about all of us. So when he agreed to do this documentary he was. He is my friend and he loves me but. He was. Merciless. He asked me to harness questions I've ever been at. Really hard ones. I nearly wound up in tears a couple of times through the questions he asked me. Okay. That's hard. That's not easy. That's always going to be hard. But we have seen you know lots of documentaries and most of them are China ups. Oh. Then they discovered California and right after that invented trinity are not cute. Cute. Lovely and. That's book that has nothing to do. If they did a documentary about you I wanted to what you care about. I wanted to what matters to you know what you're afraid of I wanNA know who you love I WanNa know. Importance stuff not. I had one hundred, million selling record twenty years ago who cares I want to know who you are as a person? Well, that's what we were after. I mean when you say you know if you're watching documentary but somebody else. You want to know everything and what is it like to have that document of your life where it's not always the most complimentary portrait you need like you said, you don't sugarcoat it. And now it's out there. It's not easy. It's not easy be naked in public. We're all imperfect. You know if I if I had a perfect buddy and I and I, I looked glorious and I was a girl, I would walk around naked in public I would be happy to but I don't look what that. There are a couple photos of you in that documentary where you are naked in public I think or at least on your boat. I have been. Well back. Then I didn't look so bad. You know and so I would go negative lot. Nowadays. Chance. But. It's hard being naked in public in a bigger sense and you know what I mean. Living Your Life in front of the world. It's you know you you. You take some pretty hard shots. and. You have to. You know. Learn from them and try to keep going. and. I'm I'm I'm okay with it I'm I'm okay with WHO I am I'm okay. With what I've done I've had to look at it and learn from it all of it. I'm pretty happy with the choices I make a now and and who I am now, which allows me to deal with all of who I have been. Speaking to David Crosby on World Cafe today I'm Raina Doris. What of the scenes from the documentary that really stuck with me that maybe most people wouldn't want to have everyone look back on was the part of you going to present and there are shots of you going into prison looking pretty rough. You come out looking very clean cut short hair button up shirt nine months in a Texas prison. What happened in there? The significant thing that happened was I got straight. And it's the hardest way to do it. Because they didn't give me an aspirin immunity help at all. Nowadays. You can't get anywhere near jail or prison without there being an a meeting somewhere in there. But they didn't have them back then. They had there was no help at all of any kind they lock you in a box. And a hang on. Son on the phone he'd. Hey. James. I'm on World Cafe Right. Now, can I call you back I? James? James. Where West say. They lock in a box. The, Amok you in a box and feed you through the door and that's it in. A lot of time to think. Now I. I did work in the mattress factory we made the worst mattresses and the world. Institutional Masses And I did you know? Survive. But trying to kick cocaine heroin at the same time in that little steel box was as as a way of doing it as there is. There was no help no no sanity to it nothing. No good advice. No companionship no support. No nothing you just. Suffered through it but it worked. Yeah. After about a half a year of that, I started to wake up and remember to I was. And started to write a music again. And to have that comeback, gave me the strength to get through it. Yeah it was a few years after you were in prison. You released your album Oh. Yes. I can. which was your second Solo. Eighteen years after your first solo one and like you said, this time you were sober. I WANNA play the track that opens that album drive my car. What could you tell me about my car before we hear it. It's a classic. Classic. Teenager I want to go out and drive my car around in the dark you know and screech their tires new Howell, the engine. It's Very juvenile song and I like it a lot. Yet. I mean I guess after being in prison very freeing song. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I definitely enjoy getting out of prison a lot. Of Really did. Okay. Well, let's listen to drive my car David Crosby on cafe. What's one of those nights? Drive right by your own stream. Hands and your feed and car with clones a capsule. Sometimes. Again. Last night I just. From David Crosby's nine hundred, eighty, nine solo album. Oh. Yes. Can that one's called drive my car I'm joined by David Crosby today unrolled cafe so. It must be strange for you. You know not being on the road right now. It's terrible. It's really really rough. Of done it all my life you got understanding I've been on the road since. About nineteen, sixty five. Before that I was on the road by myself hitchhiking around the country singing in coffeehouses I've been on the road since probably about nineteen sixty one. and. And it's a joy to me I love singing. I love it. I really love it. I'm good at it and I have fun with it and I. Love. The contact I love making magic or the audience taking him on on a voyage. Trying to make them laugh. So then a little bit later I might be able to make them cry. I want to take you on an emotional wage like a joy to me. So. It's very hard not to do it. I love my family, I love my home. It's a wonderful place what I'm looking at. Here, is a beautiful lawn sticking out with great beautiful trees on it. Some dogs playing out there. It's really pretty. I. Love being home. But I'm used to going on the road every summer of my life. I, always have. Always. I'm always on the road when it comes to my birthday always. Happy Birthday by the way we're talking less than just the. Hate. ME. Turn eight when you turn seventy nine years old. You don't want to say. I. Really. Okay, so Not Working. It's emasculating a lot of ways man. Guy Wants to feel buddy skin care of his family. The. Head of any household woman or man wants to feel that they're taking care of their family. and. If you can't work. Well then that gets very complex, I can still take care of my family because I've got other resources I can sell a guitar I have to. I can make a deal with some of my publishing but. I. I I'm supposed to be working. That's what I do and I loved magic trick. That happens when I've got an audience in a band. I can have a lot of fun. and. It is a lot of fun I have a blast doing. And I miss it. I don't. You know think about it this way if they took a year away from you right now. Young woman it would be a crime. You're really pretty much. In full blossom. If you're away from me right now, it might have been the last one I had. I'm trying to stay alive long enough to go back to work. I'm very afraid that by the time they let me go back to work. I won't be able to do it. I'm already. Losing my ability to play guitar. I got tendonitis in both hands where he had an operation on this one. I can't have the operation on this one because it went very badly on this one. A. May. Lose the ability to play guitar which is Very serious I'm trying not to I'm playing every night trying to. Hold onto it but. By the time they open everything up and let us go back to work. I. Mean be able to. And seventy nine years old and I'm frail and I'm diabetic and a transplant and I'm. IMMUNOSUPPRESSED and I'm. Old beat up. Of Scars and. I I, I want to sing some more. Yeah. So it's very tough. It's very tough. We're not getting together in crowds is the right thing if I could criticize an I would. But it's the right thing for us to do. We need to be separate we need to do we're doing we need to wear masks we need to be careful. It's what's the right thing and it's killing me. It's just killing me. I mean, right it's exactly what we need to do and I think what makes it so hard is that. All we want to do is be together like you said that sort of the magic trick that happens. When You know for me watching live music for you performing it and feeling that sort of magical sort of connection. There's nothing like it. There is nothing. I. Feel badly I gotTA. Tell you feel. I feel worse for my friends like back and Michaud, like Michalik like other younger musicians who are trying to establish themselves. I feel terrible for Anka's. How it is for young person trying to do it now. Is You get a rented van and your band, and you just played a Gig to like eighty five people and it was really good and you made enough money for Sata cheeseburgers and some gas in the van and you drive to one hundred and eighty six miles to the next town. Plato another eighty three people and you make enough money for cheeseburgers and cokes and gas for the man yeah. And that's yet. leg-up they don't they don't get. They don't come home with any money. They're sleeping on their mothers couch. That's not okay. It's not okay. It is right now what's going on in the world is very bad for us first of all streaming. Kill. For for musicians, we don't get paid for our records. Now, the record companies are making tons of money because they own piece to the streaming companies. which was how the deal was done. But they don't pay the musicians. furred at all if we get paid at all. So that leaves live performance, that's all we got. And Man. I was okay with that grateful that I still could make a living for my family. would. Live performance and then along came cove it. And I can't. I can't play at all. California you can't have one twenty people in a room. And there's no, there's no No one knows when it might you know go back little. Will it'll go back when we have a medicine? Yeah. No I if I can't work this come in summer, I probably never going to get to get. That is hard. I mean I really. Hope. You get to do it again I, get your see me do it again. I WANNA see. Took me me. Well. David you. Make you make a great point about. Artists look these younger artists who really haven't had who really are struggling with streaming and everything you know on the radio it's not like he paid a fortune forgetting your song played on the radio. But maybe right now, if you have a an artist song that you think deserves some love right now that we could play next in this interview. And that you could suggest I'd love to play it. Oh, boy. I know putting you on the spot. Sarah Jerus-. New Record. Her Song. Orange and blue. Yes. All right. Let's do it. I love that song. Sarah Giro's with orange and blue. I'm cafe. Dogma. I think. Unrolled cafe. That was one chosen by my guest David Crosby Sarah Giro's with orange and blue I'm Marina Doris. So. Wonderful senior don't you love her? She's beauty. Her voice is incredible. The Song Johnny on that record also, it's one of the best of the year I think. Johnny Johnny. Man Wonderful. Snug. She's a terrifically well, not the other one that truly bad is. I hope it lives up to its name Your Blue Ford Escape Oh yeah. What a song wouldn't lyrics. So. Good. That layer is so fantastic. Yeah. She's brilliant and her work with with if O'Donovan and on and Sarah Watkins. Kills me of them. I'm with her that's one of my favorite groups in the world. I don't know much better musical chemistry than that. Yeah. I had her on just a little while ago. I. Asked her if I'm with her is planning anything and she said she's not sure. So no idea if we have anything to look for from them but. Yeah that new Sarah Album is just it's. Out of curiosity you know how do you find you work with all these young artists you you obviously like keep up with all music coming out right now how do you find it? Are you on? Do people come to you or your line? Jury on circumstance people found out. I'm on twitter. I love talking to people I find people fascinating, right? So. People found out that if they that on twitter, they can. Post their brothers band playing, you know something or they could post this song that just wrote tell me if there's any good and I would listen for at least thirty seconds and give them some kind of a readout. Normally? Pretty. Rough. Normally it's it's I try not to be mean but a lot of don't quit your day job. Right. So. They love it because nobody else will tell them the truth everybody else's. Cast Darling, I think you're going to be a star tomorrow. No good at all. Yeah. That was not a bad track you need to work on the lyrics. which is helpful. So people do that and I get. Tons I, mean, just tons of. Stuff. That I find also I look for I cruise around Youtube, same? Jews, everybody. And I found. From twitter people showing me stuff on there I found. Three girls in England called the staves who are fantastic singers together on three key in Toronto called the pairs. tastic seniors together. Really Good I've found. You know what I mean you you. There are plenty of people out there doing really good instrumental work really good at writing. Really good wordsmith. If just a very tough circumstance for them to make a living in and to be able to survive in and. And it's not right that the streamers are making all that money and not sharing any of it with the with the artists. It's not right and they're taking a very short. Short look at at at things instead of looking down the road. If you continue with this path, you're GONNA wind up without any people worth a damn re to write the music. And there are people in the music business who think they can teach a computer to do it. Good luck. I encourage you to try compete with your computer anytime. I'm speaking to David Crosby. It's world cafe. We've been talking about the documentary released last year about your life called remember my name and it ends with this really lovely sequence of you and members of your light has banned these young musicians including Stevens. and. I had. Becca Stevens on the show while ago and she told us that her song heathers. Let her mother was written after you suggested that she write a song about Heather Heyer a- protester who was killed and she was run down while protesting. A white supremacist in Charlottesville a few years ago. Do you remember what you said to Becca do inspired her to write that? Song. Yeah I do. I said you know. That picture you see ever. Of Heather She's about eleven feet in the air. He's upside down and she's already. Got Killed. Her. I said, what made it seem right to that guy to slam his foot down on the accelerator right that. What what what was the Matrix was the? How did how did we get to their? Doer she. An innocent protester who used to cry she saw injustice. She's an emotional girl and she wanted to see things right? Not Wrong. And this guy. Thought, it was the right thing to do to slam his foot down on that accelerator and. Slam. That car into her and kill her. Knock her into the air dead. Okay. I said there's some. Really serious. Juxtaposition here of this guy who's got a room temperature IQ and has no idea what he's doing and no idea what the world is. and He's been programmed. To go out and do this by what he's seen, what he's heard. I think. That the guy at the top of this country right now pouring gasoline on the fire. which he has consistently done. About protesters about hippies about black people, Brown people about anybody except him and his family. He's Encouraged that he set that up. And I and I hold him responsible partly for hires death. I just thought it was. I thought that was a song in there. And told Becca that story and you can't do that with Beckham man you open the door she's going to walk through. She's a force of nature that girl. I really love her I think she's one of the best writers run into she and I've written several songs together She and Michelle Willis are to my favorite artists that I've read it to. They're both singer-songwriter Women Michelle's from Canada. And bekker's from the Carolinas and. I want to keep working with them. I Love Them. It's like having two Mariachi trumpets in your band just kill. When they when they sing harmony with me it's Just. Delightful. It's powerful. It's wonderful. It's beautiful. I love working with them. They're like my two big sisters. They want me to sit. They want to civilize me, which is really difficult for an old guy from another time you know. I'm looking at a girl walking down the street gone. Good God. Gave it David I'm sorry. Wait a minute. I'm heavily religious experience. I'll be right back. gave. It stop staring at girl. Look at the but but but but. Yeah, you're looking at her but no. And they try to civilize me it's funny dynamic on the road in the bus. They do love me but they are trying to civilize me all. It might be too late. That's okay. You're right. It might be right but it's good to try. Speaking to David Crosby unrolled cafe. Just to go back to that song that you inspired, Becker right? We're going to hear just a little bit of it but what was your reaction when? BECCA brought back heathers letter to her mother. Cried yeah. To. Beautiful. So. It's powerful and it's emotionally very true. You know. She's. She's a brilliant senior songwriter man. You know she's three deal I if I get to put together another band. It will most assuredly have Beckon Michelle in it because there there are two of the best singer Songwriters I've ever run into in my life. and they're really singers both just brilliant and completely different. Here's a bit of Becca, Stevens heathers letter to her mother. Stands draw to. A Charter. Say. Sing. Only. STU IN. A. Row. Cafe that was heathers letter to her mother by Becca. Stevens a friend and often bandmate David Crosby who's my guest today Beco- that song the murder of protester heather hair and David who is your suggestion to write about it, and it's not the first time that you've been involved in a song about the killing of protesters in and just then when you were talking about seeing the photo of heather hair You know seeing the photo of students at Kent State CNN Song Ohio was the Kent State massacre in. Nineteen seventy. You've lived through a lot of change. When you're seeing all this happen. What's going through your head? Like what would you? What would you like to say about it? I'm wondering what's going to happen. Europe in Canada Yeah. Well, usually live in Philly but I'm up here temporarily because my family lives up here. Well. Connects you got it better. Can I tell you a? Very distressed man I don't know how it's going to go here. I'm very. WE'VE got a? The Way I see Donald Trump is as like about an eight year old. who had a truck a horror show of childhood. And he's never been allowed in his dad study. He's broken in the running around peeing on all the papers. I'll show you. Because that's who he is. is a little nasty kit. Are. He's racist. Chauvinist and he's doing great harm. So but that's not really the problem. The problem is that between he and Mitch McConnell we can't deal with global warming which happens to be real. Our Planet. Our home, we have screwed up the heat engine that that is our atmosphere. And malfunctioning, and we need to fix it and we can't do anything about it. Until we get rid of Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell because they're only interested in money in their pocket period they don't even believe that glories real because it's not convenient and it doesn't make any money. They don't believe in anything that doesn't make any money. and. I do believe in I, want a planet for my children live. And I'm very distressed on not sure that we will win. The bad guys are winning currently. And on. And I don't have an answer for other than for us all to vote. I'm speaking to David Crosby. It's world cafe. On a kind of a lighter side. Going back to the twitter stuff and social media. Aside from speak your mind politically which you do which I love. Your also very funny on their Also, I'd like to congratulate you on your bumper crop of tomatoes Beautiful. Aren't they? They were incredible. There's so many I couldn't believe it. We got more that was that was one day. What? There was one gauge pick. So you can't see it obviously because it's this radio but. The picture is just like I don't know it looks like a one hundred at least tomatoes on a table of all more like four hundred it was incredible. Because there are a lot of little tiny ones. And we'RE GONNA go out and get some more today. There it's wonderful. Grow your own food. It's it feels good. It feels really good. What we do is we take and we make Marinara out and we freeze it. And then in the middle of winter, we got summertime tomato taste. See, the thing is. All the food in the United States goes through a deliberate. Know that goes from the field to to your market right and it's about three weeks long. So they pick everything green. It could pick everything green they don't let it get right. So it will last long enough to get on your shelf in your market. If you. If you buy a peach in the market, you've never tasted a peach exactly just going to say tomato the just from the garden doesn't even taste like the same food as a tomato from the grocery store. For Completely different thing. So that's why we do it and that's what the is and weaned. Love it. We also grow around pot right next to those tomato plants. There's A. You know. A handful of really beautiful pipelines. I'm speaking David Crosby on World Cafe today I'm Rena Doris. To, sort of finish things off here. You know we talked a lot about. The musical communities that you're part of working with the people that you love to work with. In how these tours that you were. So excited about these shows you're excited about aren't happening now because of the pandemic and the worries that we have about what's happening in the world. But with all of that sort of thing community not happening at the moment. How do you keep some kind of hope what? Joy Right now. Other than the tomatoes what brings you joy in your. Life. Day. What brings me to my grandma. Yeah. I. Love My family. They're good human beings. And when it brings his music, I've made another record that they're not gonNA pay before. James. And get not schedules record help and I it's just about done. Tweaking mixes right now. Can you tell us anything about it. A lot of the Co writing between me and James. A lot of Guys Really Goodman. We I convinced after years of trying years. It took me by four years to convince Donald Fagan to give me a set of words but he did oh cool Oh. Cool. We steely Dan. That set of words right into the middle distance you can count on it. That's so fun. Yeah. It's a song called Rodriguez tonight. then. There's a song that that James and Michael McDonald wrote. Call River rise. That's. It's a hit I've been. I've been bugging James for years saying would you please stop writing all sophisticated? Right? Wing paid for the car. Come on. And he did it's called river rise and Michael Things on it too and it's stunning. It's a really stunning record and then I've got another one that is pretty much mostly me. Called I think I. They're really good songs on this record man I mean some of the best writing that I've ever been involved in some this record. and. We didn't start making records to make money. We we made records because it was our art. It's what we're GONNA leave behind. It's my sculpturer my. You know. My paintings and I'm I'm happy about I'm happy about it. I I'm unhappy that somebody else's making money off of it and not paying me. But I love making art and it's really a good record and I'm really going to have a blast putting it out. I can't wait to hear it. Very soon. To finish off, maybe we could do another CPR song. To honor the re issues because you've said that you think that CPR's some of the best work been involved in, but you don't think many people have heard the records. So I was wondering if to play out, you choose a CPR song you've always wished more people good here and we could play that last at the edge. At the edge. and. Why do you think you can tell us about at the edge before over here it? I think it's one of the best songs that jams ever wrote. And we've written a lot but I think it's still one of my. It might be still my favorite of all the sanctuary Britain. It's. I love it deeply. Let's do it. David. Thank you so much what a pleasure I hope I get you talk to you again on you're really good at this. Thank you so much. It's CPR at the edge. I won't reach. From blowing away. That I'm lucky you. Wouldn't be. Sumadi's. been whereas Stan. The job. Thank. You again to the one and only David Crosby I'm Marina Doris, and thanks for listening to the World Cafe. Like a lighthouse before you. WHO'S GRID Swinging, slid. Let the darkness. Get. Family won't go. Your heart.

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Mohr Stories 479: Derek Smalls

Mohr Stories With Jay Mohr

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Mohr Stories 479: Derek Smalls

"Put Your name on name. What's your name on it in my mind that if you just run through somebody face you'll be able to take that over and over and over over over over over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again they just won't then face to worry about them. there is here. November six will turn theater yeah. You guys have to go buy tickets. They have to commanding command loudly. Please the vendor sixth. You're going to the will turn theater. What do you see Wilco again. Go see somebody that rocks the fuck out because he dirks irks malls will turn dot com. DEREK SMALLS MUSIC DOT COM. It'LL BE UP AJAY MORE DOT COM so do that more member. Six also dates. I'll get them up quick in case they tap tap out of the podcast and do something else. November ninth more theater in Seattle November eleventh devote theater in Vancouver and then November fourteenth the Warfield or field in San Francisco. These are not these real rock and roll rooms dumps the bloodied dumps. These are not bloodied. These are good by the way if you if you see blood he dumps Husky doctor I will. That's that's sort of myself when I eat beets yeah well yeah but these are not these proper rock venues. The Warfield is my favorite place to plan the world really well yeah because they treat the artists with respect. I'm sure sure all these other places due to if they're listening but warfield we played tap played warfield couple of times and it's like they just the spread they put out in backstage is like the best and printed up a big old style sent Francisco Post to for the first mm-hmm we played there is if we'd been there in the sixties which we never know we know we got to what was the first time spinal tap played when you said tap for the listeners spinal tap obviously derek smalls the basis for the iconic band spinal tap his new album smiles change meditations upon aging is it's really good man thank you. It's really base. I mean it's absurd to talk to a great basis than say. It's really bass heavy but I'm a fan well. That's ironic baseline. You should say that because I kept saying to the producer more base so I guess we're all right well that you should. I mean if you're the front man of your think yeah. What else am I'M GONNA say. What makes somebody treat an artist right like. What is I'm a comics. All I know is the room temperature water in the green room and can we start on time. That's like the height of you've treating me. Well yeah well. It's this great spread that put out in the dressing food food's foods feeding smalls many many foods many any foods foods of many nations and then as I site putting out this this get this designed and printed disposed to as if we'd been at the Phil Morrison they made the effort they may they showed they can which I I don't know if they did can't but they show they care assure you so warriors. Go Go online and get those tickets the number six. Let's start this tour off right at the Wilton. It's not just me no you got to bend and a Symphony Orchestra and special rock and roll guests which were not announcing yet but big knives long names usually well not really a couple of hundred back in rock and roll. Oh you gotta have a short name. Is that true yeah. I saw a clip on youtube usually when they say special fast. It's like all right. Here's some session guy. I don't know what Steve Vai like Tim Monster Yeah. That's a big scary. Monster might no no. He's a sweetheart bye. I did make a mistake with that rule about you have to have a short name enroll 'cause. I forgot about Giovanna Masa who drove onto Masa Utah God Joe Bono Masa. That's pretty long yeah. It sounds like you're saying on a different language. It does not no you're not I know what you're saying. Then he wouldn't guitar legend Yeah Yeah Steve vai One syllable one syllable. That's it now you've got it. Nigel Saint Huggins Davidson Ovens Nigel mixing up your bandmates mixing up my dodgers Israel's with David. They're not bent at their experiments. I've left the band or the band is left. I mean we've left each other. It's there's no band. Are you are are you when you leave a band bands no more. It's a bit of a death. I guess because that's that's your life. That's your sustenance that you're living for very long time time so there has to be. I would assume a limited time and space in living without the ban structure. Did you find that to be hard to acclimate to know now. I just got depressed. I would say that's the hard part but that's the adjustment you make. Okay is that that was my adjustment and then I know I did other things. I I hosted co hosted a competition show in the Netherlands. It's called rockstars with Zad competition you know and we did really well beating dot and and then a for some reason decided it was going to be changed. Tomorrow's hip hop heroes with his and I was out. I think it was you know would keep me of at Ronnie. Putting two guys would be the guy you replacement hip hop heroes. Yes that would be the worm eating talented that wouldn't be very bizarre and then I because I've been that's a nice job that that tell the show so I was working out during the day in the gym. Mike you except I wouldn't run out of breath before we record. I would have apply stairs grab water and I was bizarrely winded. I think you're underestimating. The import of view Derek smalls sitting here being interviewed by me yeah in my mind. It's it's a bit of an adrenaline. Dump is pretty excited. Okay so so that was why you definitely definitely part of the city my house okay well in fairness but so. I was in pretty good shape pretty good. Nick and friend of Mine said well you could come work in my club in Latvia. So who's the band. He says it's not that kind of club and it was called. PK Huntington's and it was a club of ladies come to watch gentleman dines basically with their shirts off peak bk PK Honky Honky. Dan Hunky tins honking INS Huntington. Did you see what I'm saying. I do and it was it was. It was a good for a while but we were dancing. 'cause you're in shape. I was dancing because I was in shape here while I was dancing and I was in shape. Was it hip hop. Heroes Arose type music or is now. It was basically kind of eighties. Funk booty booty moving music. Do you get did you get to choose what you dance to or now no club choice in Akron. I knew I listen. I didn't care I was so the problem I cared about. was the people seem to be confused about where to put the tip so what protocol well with women you know it's right in there but that's the the amount oh. I wasn't going to get into what you will you will. It's not like there's no amount that's insulting to a male dancer peaky Huntington's. I think zero zero not so that's a quarter between your cheeks. That's fine as long as just add to the kitty. That's fine ultimately as long as it all it all this long as it's legal tender. I think they call it that it is called. I don't know why because it seems more heart than tender but what's Dutch coins what so since we touched on it what's protocols to where to put the tip if you're dancing. Are you nude dancing. No no no no no no probably well proper trousers but the coveted where I need to be so they're smalls. If I'm a lady I WANNA go see women. I just want to visualize that I please to slowly all right then. I'm not clean-shaven either really leaving the landing strip. I'm tired of that okay. What about the back. That's Clinton's. That's okay no no flames coming out of the greats okay. I got a Guy Division Now lady. If I'm Milady I WANNA go see men dancing. Ta Huntington's in in Latvia and Lafi Latvia Oh Latvia hauling no not I moved you moved from your engine got two long yeah. You're wearing proper trousers. I think that'd be a little disappointing especially. If I didn't save properly I mean I said covered. I said well. I didn't mean improper. All whatever you mean I'm down with okay. I'd like to know like what are you dancing in because if it's a starlike malls it's sort of a an abbreviated a bit of shorts short shorts kind of call them hot shorts. Ginger Brown pants pants pants I should I should say throats mixed up. It's not my fault so you're still out of breath. No not really very calm collected a couple of basis we've had on the podcast who tough mccague and when. I asked him become a dear friend. I asked off. Is that what I'm and so forth. I hope so okay. Yes yes at the point of this. This is Jerry makes isn't it amazing life. Jay Makes Friends having guests on his show. Isn't it the point a lot to Bob along collect positive electron. I guess so you let light collecting light point what if life tough mccague and I asked your thoughts I'm Derek smalls and his text back to me was technically perfect. Love Sweet. I ask Buzi Z. Collins Buzi brand new about Derek smalls response. was he a freak. Oh Nice so which one is more he entering England with freak out because you technically. I'm edge of Duff to say that but you know that's the goal Mexico. You WanNa be technically perfect but I do. Do you hit goal every time you go out on stage now. Okay Oh time wise. Yes well yeah one hour if the light goes on you you don't need to watch. It's inside you. It's just thirty thirty. Two years of this show stinks. It's them of course yeah. I got it down to a science quote again playing Bass Guitar but so you know what time it is at all times not at all times there's markers I'm aware how long have we been talking right now. We've been about sixteen minutes seven. I think that's a loan I don't think so. How long have we got here in long yeah all right. I don't waste your time so he added. Okay thank you when you are in a band like spinal tap. Yes and talk or for that matter spinal tap yes or for that when you were telling your mom left to join jazz was a jazz band. Well we see a swing oganization over the heart and Totti's so the band and become a defacto family raised by a single that I wish race but he was great. He was great. Yeah Duff the smallest deficit so in the dynamic spinal tap who in the ban was your mother who WanNa know if I had a mother and spinal tap. I have brothers evens it was it was in work life. No mother probes yeah yeah. I mean sometimes times. I feel like a motherless child. You are literally no feeling I mean not literally because no right. Yes she bounced. She left yeah she left. We didn't hear from ever again even when my dad died so he had a mother figure in your life ever as a woman in your life that has been women in my life yeah. I I hope so yeah rock God yeah capital on that one but there have been a mother figure for their smalls at some point in the journey. I think I was on mom really yeah. I think you have nothing to go by. There's those Diorama future studies that that you're more impressive than you even let on well. I knew what what I needed and that was mothering mother so I did that to me. Step one of Derek smalls mothering Derek smalls. What was the first thing you have to go to you. What was the was the first stop sympathy. Let yourself off the hook yeah. Just it's okay. It's okay it's okay. It's okay see yeah I mean my dad did a bunch into that too but he was busy with his work and then when he was around it was left to me. Job Sanitizing phoned really in Britain. It was big doc. We're very germophobic sort of just this feature the old style telephone handset you know what's up against all the time yup bloody mouth night and yeah well forget your hands your mouth. It's just a jump in there but there are. I'm the only one using my phone maybe maybe in England as well. I mean rob. People come over. Can I use your phone. Well no no. I don't won't jump. You don't do that so this was to deal with that problem. See that hand sanitized phones. He'd come in sprays work. Yeah it handwork look like you but she's me. You do have worked as well. Oh I see I didn't makes is yeah. I mean that's that's you and you're not a hand job. Though knows that handwork it's handwork but it's not a hand trump. Both both your you and your father made a career using your hands properly. Yes that's correct for others and I often often. I think that if he'd been alive today with these I mean these things these cell phones we've got these are the dirtiest little these are germ. Germany's this thinks in on the planet earth and he could have figured out. I phoned sanitizing APP and made billions Oregon John Mad- why because the amount of germs any amount of the transfer the APP would take care of it. You see he's GonNa get through other germs though to get to the Oh yes people trying to of nine. He was a fighter. He was a fighter through the got to the but he was just hired people in China through the election style thank you how's your father died in a an infarction what an infarction and infarction infarction is hot thing infection nations function in Fox and if a C. D. literally function talks. Don't I have one. I don't plan on it. Well going up. Those stairs like you will turn theater. According I will be there the more the listeners of the podcast because my last name is more they'd become known as more years. It's a nice way to sell t shirts yeah dirk smalls. Does your fan base had like a flaky collision. No I nobody stone yet. You know the smaller Stettin I wouldn't rush it. I wouldn't you know let let it fell but he's sixty organic holy. Thank you might you'd better time than you are is seventy five except well then you get on yeah yeah make. America great again is taken right from why limit yourself to just America will because I'm British yeah okay. That's yeah okay. That's fair thank you. I try to be fair at all times. I think you're very fair. Thank you is that sort of a job of basis to be that because the base is such an even Keel Instrument. Yes the backbone and the whole yeah yeah yeah. You're the you're the grounding you're the every electical think think about it. This way. Take every electrical circuit has to be what grounded grounded that little that little pin right. I'm that little pin so the rhythm section of the band. The spine is the base in the Jones. Yeah the drummer is more He's more showy. We also well sometimes. Sometimes a bass player does that I'm listening to motown. It's all the Bass and the drummer just does these fills every repaid bombarded bomb and then he goes away but the James Jameson kind of thing that's going on in motown. He's keeping a time then he or yeah I think basis and comics were just sort of timekeepers. We've been we manipulate time. We've ended up yeah. I was GONNA ask us with eighty circling back the spinal tap. It's a big part of enormous party for yours when you keep losing drummers by death or by accident mishap yeah yeah how a hard is it for. Derek smalls to be that backbone when the other part of the backbone keeps disappearing well that that puts the the anus on me to be the chief timekeeper a new drummer will come in would come in and I'd say rule. This is how we're doing this and show him and then he'd own but it was down to me really with all of with that. I mean the curse. Did it affect you the most. What did you say out of all the band members I had to deal with. I mean they wouldn't really talk to the new dramas along because because they thought it was a waste of time why bother making contact where voting they knew it was going to go well yeah sure 'cause so they figured well let us snow when you've sort of broken him in right and they can still alive and if he's still alive with in. I don't know if there's any other band that's had had to cycle through that. Many different pieces like the black crowes go through lead guitars. They thought that their sixth yeah so mark. Ford Audley freed Luther Dickinson Liu your regular pedia the stones replaced Mick Taylor Find Jones. Has you know but Ron Woods. Woody's Today's the guy. You're a Ruckus pedia. Hey I'm a fan yeah. Do you know of any other bandits have to replace members as much spinal. TAP is replaced TRAUMAS. I don't it's occurs. Why have a drama Rocco Ruggero. You gotTa have the drama. It's in the book says what Book in the Book Rock and Roll Book Bobby Taumoepeau now no little rock and roll you have to have I mean there's bands without basis. The doors that basis the the doors never had a organised. If you ask me by agree with you I just fell in love from so sick. sicker Raymond's Eric's were at Howick start. Everything rock and roll wasn't all about big Jim. If animals could talk Derek smalls which when you think would be the rudest the rudest in in terms of where they speak most rude most offensively rude WanNa be a wallaby yeah. That's fantastic won't be because people think he's so cute so warm and fuzzy and you just go fuck you fuck. You made the fuck you up. I love it yeah and you'd be your water. Be Talking when you're doing these shows. I saw you with a symphony but there was also a second symphony. Yes Oh you whereas at show I watched it. Oh you've seen it yeah yeah. I don't know if I could bring up the Internet as much been avoiding it because the Internet addiction aww going through two bouts of treatment for that so forgive me but it seems very broad like Internet addiction seems very. It's like having a an eradiction or no. No no the in mostly broad if you go online every day for everything well I couldn't. That's what I was. I was was doing too much. It's like if you got all your air from one little box and use your box all day. Somebody said you could you just by walking out. I'm I'm doing fine right here with his box though yeah but it's an addiction was it you. WanNa get out and do something other than sitting in inhale you box all day back when my understand what you're saying it depends on how happy that made me so. There's a risk reward to any addiction so you're addicted to the. Internet is anything specific on unit within hours. Just just had no no no no no just logging on just had to be with the screen and my then go friend said this buddy addiction and looked me in two days and I said well look at you but that's it's not a story you're hilarious so wasn't like a specific group of sites websites. We would just immediately think pornography now. Internet addiction yeah of course you don't strike me as a porn guy 'cause chicks. You got your danced deaths right. That's the Huntington's. I get hung punky. She didn't talk against copyright changed. I'm opening competing place across collant idea kittens. Bk Hunker towns clever. You'll never catch gotcha ninety seven cents or ninety nine. It's just a shovel. Do you know in in Britain. There's a chain called. Tk Maxx yes. It's true really that's. That's how close they get. which was I? I don't know it might be company. They they both want already yeah. If I don't know and do you know how the oil of Olay cream that women you stay in France. It's called oil of Olay is really this ad had instead of a y so you're onto something yeah okay. You know what it always blew. My mind is the guy that eventually bought Armand. Hammer was named Armand Hammer. Is that true yes true. I'm not kidding. What's Really Armand Hammer really it's and like nobody talks about. It didn't Jim Chevron by Chevron. I don't know so was it. The act like just just the act that connection between me and and in those days it was a computer. Now it'd be the phone. I guess telephone so pre. Internet not not pre Internet. I'm asking free Internet. Yes we're we're with this energy of gone. Have you had addictive. No issues no no no. You're pretty cool like you handle it yeah. I didn't you know I'd right a pipe but I never smoked it. Just to stage prop really never touched. It never touched any of the drugs that the other lasted. I'm making. I'm not casting. No you're not judging anyway. A it's a cigar aspersions. I said but in Fox in Israel I never heard that word before. I learned alive today well. You're like you're a wise dude. I think like anybody it kind of hangs out with you for a little bit. They leave smarter. They think what a bloody sage what they think. What a bloody sage right you know with the Brits every time you guys say bloody distinct literal blood theories in my lexicon it's not it's not visualizing somebody like a in a Lotus position of blood with over instinctual thing to reprogram myself so you never had what about bleeding get off the bleeding us. Do you think that somebody's got a bleeding us well. That's what you're saying. No it's not it's literally way saying well yeah but I'm not speaking literally or you're speaking figuratively speaking British. Okay get off your bleeding on us right now by Oh. You're fine okay bye ticket. November accident deal theater. Are there any look the warfield your favorite place you performed. I've never been to the more never been yeah well never been to the Moore's but never been to the Moore and never been to the vogue and that's a November. Eleventh is the more in Seattle Theater in the Vogue Theatre Vancouver. Excuse me but it all starts November six. It's all about that first. Show I guess how how nervous at two product question and so I don't want to say like how nervous do you get because there's what you can't control. Yogi Berra said people don't WANNA come. We can't stop so once you know. You'd say that there's a bloody sage. Once you know you've done everything you can watch. You know it's full of sold out what's is there angst going on stage age and if so what what is it rooted in the bloody woods the words at a song yeah memorizing them well the memorized but just getting them out in the proper order well all. I mean I wrote them all right so they will come from the same place your throat no. I mean your brain appear appear above the throat where the pencil above the throat. Do you write online. Are you able to go on the Internet now to work on your music. No don't do that. Why would I do that. I he's he's efficiency on the Internet. Yeah I use a computer but I don't connected to the Internet to write songs because somebody could go. Oh let's go hack into Derek's computer and steal these songs good night yeah they could do that. I think it also walk into your home and still your notebooks. Thanks yeah true but keep notebooks. You who's on the computer but I don't connect to the Internet you. Is that a gateway eight way opening the computer. Do you get anxiety. You get sort of sweatier. No No. It's all done this addiction. Yeah I mean the first time it didn't take my talking about this. No doubt enough number say that again not enough. People are talking about talking enough about my district now well yeah. We help somebody so I was at this facility South West. London called crosswinds and the first time it didn't take came back. Did the course again second time. Is it a twelve step program to Bob Bob. Your Buddy gladio figurative figurative. There is no ball is it. Do you know how the junior by the way the second half of that. No Americans don't tend to know that I didn't know the first part Bob ceremonial everything sorted. I'm writing go through this course Bob's or as I said Bob you play but the second part Bob's your uncle fannies you rent I liked and of course fanny is double meaning Britain. I would hope so yeah so is a twelve step process to be off of each not twelve step program okay and the first first time it didn't take was that because of your own reluctance because of my own stubbornness my own love of my own addiction my own. I mean we're talking a little personal stuff here but just a few plenty refusal to let go. You know you gotta let go. Whose hands do you you see somebody in your life. You look at their hands and you just think what we a good question not for me but through somebody okay let me think well not eat when I was childlike McQueen's Wrigley not that's a great answer which leads you took it she was she was a lovely lady. which is you know a lovely lady and folks your uncle? Bob's Spanish rant punish around. If you could come on stage fee music what would you choose but has to be something in the catalog of of music like boxers walk into the ring of writers like Ode to Joy Ode to joy the Joy Beethoven's ninth climax. It's a bit leery areas out how come on that's you want him. Best possible answer ever imagined to bloody jewelry so we're all gonna pile of the Wilton November six sls changes the album and I can mention. Some of the guests run out of your allowed toiling on the album. Can Yeah sure please do defy Joe Century on Rick Wakeman Rick Bloody Wakeman Donald Fagan snarky puppy Holden's poll Schaefer. They used to be dolphins nickname to it's not keep up your horns horn horn yeah. No you know that this yeah you're a music. I am music so I ended up did you who else and Michael League the leader is probably the best player so we do base off on the recalled the world's Steven and Joe Suryadi not on the same soul yeah. I think that's our tweedles apple. Sorry forgot he's great. He's great. He plays Guitars mytalk. Talk to your mom. Oh yeah that's so far out man. He plays on my song. It is like amazing. How many musicians respect expect Derek smalls that will like you had me st by you know what I mean like. St Vita me is just unquantifiable the five oh on categorical he's just the ether. He's his own thing. Have you met now lovely lovely like I love his stop. I love what he'd like Ballerina when he does it is so conceptual everything does everything talk about technically perfect yeah technically perfect subterranean. Stephen Find Studio at the same time as I know you keep those guys apart. Oh yeah he's the base counterpart to you like don't let Derek smalls and the other base guy well. It's on it's on. I would melt into a little if I were in the same studio with booty. Yeah you know so. Let's make that happen yeah boots. He's a good guy yes busey. Super Sabu on stage in nineteen seventy nine the Apollo theater with fucking okay dollars there he was on the podcast and I think we got to it like about an hour in but I didn't really care it was all about the JV's I've fascinated anatomy. He was nine thousand nine hundred and he played with. JV's and I'll share this with your greatest thing to me. Every sentence podcast said Buzi Collins. He's he hadn't been paid him. His brother. Catfish hadn't been paid yet by James Brown and they the same business manager somehow and the business manager said tell them you want two hundred and fifty dollars a week each and tell him. I said it's okay so they had to go to James Brown's hotel room. He says come in the doors open. Everything food is just everywhere. He's just got savage eating just conquering life and then go walsall so all those James also fifty real meek little kids and he he goes. He told you that I'll give you three hundred now. Get Out and booties said and back. I'll never forget you remember this. He goes back then that was like a million bucks and then he looked up because it was a million bucks. It was an accident story. That's like yeah we gotta get. Derek smalls and boots he together but I don't want you to mount will turn the air con up yet. DEREK SMALLS MUSIC DOT COM. It's a great it website at old realizing what they mean by easily navigate. I was a kid. I'm just trying to jack off. Leave me alone now. I'm like Oh like everything drops down. These these are a nice changes while you know everything's autism and so you know designing pro ball I believe so. Is that a name. We'll talk about it. Yeah I can read it certain drummer from Sir. Oh sure Taylor organs. Oh I forgot to mention all the drums on the record. I'm pretty fired up about a Chad Smith from a Chili. Peppers looks like we'll feral. Jim Kelton is on the record Jim counter there is a a look or you could just tell me you been my oracle. I want to tell you to look it up. Tim Kelton he's sit legendary L. A. Drama with everybody in rock and roll. He is like the drama you know that means aides or or like the spur you owe her the original drama from which all is that a word or you know or so. Jim Kelly you're looking at right now onto Taylor are my. I don't want to mess me that Internet addict awesome that yeah I mean a lot of organs can sing too well. We didn't let him know and everybody's intact so when you now this is interesting as we talked about it. It'd be the judge of that but okay. You're going to start now with the judgy. No I know it's going to be fascinating. Senate good. I needed that feet creepy. See how a mother myself to make. It had yes very sweet. Thank you so forget what I oh saying. Oh yeah until the TAP thing drums. I know about this because stop for a minute. It was very bizarre reminder where it was yeah. Usually it's Corey's cuts so the the okay. Let's the hounds really far away to go trust river to get them off my set. Was I know I'm GonNa get on you. Say That's how it works but he's still alive. Yes I'M GONNA explain to this guy and this is going to be interesting. When we get to being a cyclist myself off sadness tightness. Don't look at me like that. I'm not I'm looking at you admirably actor that committed to something that that black black and white and it will not read actually well read all over yeah so I'm familiar with the devils hangups shall we say and he's he's hung up the number three trinity yet A. B. Six six six just a bunch of threes. So what will we into spinal tap mainly three hundred me so the drama was disturbing that that how see now and so all the dramas that have plagued with me report. I checked check with of course afterwards because they would say made. No both the dramas played on the record because we divide the insurance and everything never felt better may never felt that they weren't the fourth. They weren't the add on US right. That should be published. That's really fast now. It is no way assuming the public like they do. We just broke it like that's it. It has to be three and it just had to be three the evil Trinity Yeah See Satan Satan House. Doesn't he always no. Well yeah this one this about that. I I mean I record a song on the hell to pay which we do live to which is about how Satan thinks. He looks track eleven. I got edited track eight and then you were coming over because it's got put together quickly bum titus. They're small. I'M GONNA listen. It is all day a lot and tomorrow I'm in put around around repeat. I am and leave it alone. I'm thrilled thrilled. You're here and everybody. Let's go to the Wilton November six more theater. You guys already know that dates. Turks malls and he's he's. He's he's one. He's one he's earth. You are brother on him to you. Are Him capitalize. Put a late. Thank you uh-huh ah.

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The Lingua Francas

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The Lingua Francas

"From New York City. This is lexicon valley podcast about language. I'm John MC water. And before we begin I should say that. Now, we have something in addition to the regular show, and that is our slate plus segment, and that's an extra segment that you get when you become a member you can become a member of something else, which frankly helps me and the podcasters and writers do the work that we try to do. And where you don't have to listen to the ads, and there's a Facebook group if you want to join that you can't listen in to the slate plus segment online, you have to subscribe to it at slate dot com slash lexicon. Plus, there's only thirty five dollars for the first year again that slate dot com slash lexicon. Plus. Every day. We talk about how innovative companies are reinventing the way business happens. But none of that is possible without the right people to enable it people get packages to over one hundred and fifty million delivery points affordably and on time with the latest technology and expertise. So who can help you deliver the future of commerce, the United States postal service? See why they deliver more ecommerce packages to homes than anyone in the country at USPS dot com slash future. Today. I have a special guest, and no I don't have guests much lately because I like just doing it myself. But there times when you need somebody to join you and Gus Don Doran is the author of babble which came out in December. And I want all of you who listen to my show to read not my books, but I want you to read guest on Facebook, apple babble around the world in twenty languages, because frankly, it's better than my books, and it really scratches a lot of the issues that a lot of you have the sense that I get a lot of you have from what you write to me. And basically what babble is is twenty languages describe lovingly in ways that will keep you from ever turning your face from the patients. I'm just gonna open it right up here because I have guests on here with me Gusta Vietnamese Korean Thomas. Turkish Giannis, not Japanese pajama knees. Persian Javi Japanese while Healy German. Russian Portuguese, Bengali Arabic. Hindi, Urdu Spanish and Mandarin. Why are these important languages chose them because of the world population speaks these languages as mother tongue and between seventy five and ninety percent of the population. Speaking them as a second or third or fourth language. So how many languages are there in the world? You hear the figures six thousand lots some size seven thousand ten thousand five thousand and you hear that we will have five hundred left in a couple of decades. But I'm thinking about six thousand. Come to think of it, use speak, a nonstandard dialect of in addition to standard, touch, don't you? That's right. We'll even playing that. It's a regional language the Bergische language, which is different enough for other Dutch people to understand it, and it has very peculiar terrific. So and modestly proud of Hitler say. I mean in the sense that Limburgers is really if you roll the dice, again if the lines on the map were drawn differently. That's a different language in a way than Dutch or my only exotic. That's right limber. It's olympics. Interesting. I think in America, and I'm gonna get all these letters from people about I like limbic cheese. But I think Limburgers cheese is known to most of us as something that's considered evil. Smelling old Hollywood cartoons. Actually, it's different Limburg. It's not even from the Lindbergh or I come from. I can't even use that as a way of transitioning from Limburg dialect to for example. This is what gets me about your books. You manage to say interesting things about any language that you run into you did the same thing in lingo around Europe in sixty languages all sixty you managed to be interesting. For example, Korean I think Korean glorious thing. But if somebody said, okay talk about Korean for a half hour. I'd have to think what would I tell people, and what you come up with is to focus on the Idiofa owns. What is an idiot phone? It's not all that easy to simply one kind of idiot phones that we are sort of a million with our peers words like meow, which means cry the catenary or the word for cat in Vietnamese. But in Korean and in several other languages it has much wider field of activities speak. They have all. These words that convey, not just sound. But also other types of sensory perception things that you proceed with your eyes your nose, your skin and even mental sensations, and it may work in several ways. For instance, words, ending in K in Korean sound at -rupt and word sounding in L sound sort of smooth or flowing their meanings often curry late with that. Now, interestingly, this is an example, I'm giving you which actually also works in English and other European languages where it's like smack more role have these same qualities, but in Corrine, it's much more extensive and much more systematic. And it's thousands of words that you can find the dictionary. And they speakers are aware that these are idioms. Yeah, I've heard that said of Japanese too. And that you're not really speaking the language, unless you master, all these words that are the equivalent of English speakers things like pow and caboose and and things like that. You mentioned one in the book. There's there's an idiot phone com. Gum, actually, I prepared for this show. I had prepared the word thing Bill, which is the same list user. There's thing go which refers to circle movement. And then there's bingo with tens p which refers to a passer movement. And then there's Pingel with a additional whiff of air off, the pier. Aspiration which has a somewhat different meeting again. And actually, there are three board as a Bengal and tangle and Pengle. They all have meanings that Korean speakers off Milia with either. No or that can figure out because there is system this whole thing. And that is what they're really leave us behind because we don't have that in any way, not nearly as much, and you also mentioned, and it's the way you pull the camera out that around the world, the sounds all. And or if we want to say the letter L N often correspond certain body part concepts. What what does all tend to mean or refer to disproportionately it refers to lit throughout the world is this proportionate number of languages that have an L the rule sound in their words for live. I mean English isn't obvious example. So it was Latin with its Lobue that word is always a little bit awkward because what it translates into an English is very private. But anyway, go ahead. Yeah. And actually that's also called lips in my doctorate, which recur. To an easier example, perhaps on the end sound which is often part of the word for knows as an English again as Letten where it's also which we find nasal. And that's probably the case because it is a nasal sound to begin with you push the Fs for the news and the second place the tip of your tongue point toward the nose up. I mean, okay. Three nasal at least three nasal consonants that. And has three the end is the only one where the tip of the town sort of reaches towards those. Of course, it stays within the mouth. Direction and the sound. Cindy, I know it sound city, but you might consider the gesture as mouth gesture and with the make hand gestures off another wear what we're doing and we'll be make mouth gestures were not aware either. The funny thing is why we do it we influence the sound that we're producing. So we might entirely unconsciously be producing an mouth gesture, but pointing the end towards the nos we might and say we are. But we might we very much might. And you know, what song I'm going to use folks for this? We're going to use Betty boop in the reason is that in Betty boop, ancient cartoons. The theme song actually included idiot phones such as boop. Boop. And so listen to the leery of this opening of the Betty boop cartoons, which I recommend. And this is nineteen thirty two and listen to all these foams on acting. Do that. Like that. He can do saxophone can go. Fact Sapone chance that he. anytime and anywhere. Down the. Did you hear those little idiot phones and actually listen to other versions of it? And it's even more Idia phony. And so for example, in some of them, it's an auto honking. Go. But an auto horn camp. We'll do you have more those are idiot phones. But we don't talk like that. But in Korean to an extent they do. But here's another one Punjabi job as one of the biggest languages. I think job as wonderful. God knows what I would say about job for ten pages. And yet you talk about job having a musical quality. What did you mean? I mean that is a tonal language. I think you've talked to which is on the show. Yeah. And I've used before this rather than Chinese Mandarin, which is the OSA child for Tonelli Warringah tried to avoid that. Mama. Mama, mama. Yeah. That gets exactly exactly. And the other interesting thing is that it's only become tonal quite recently after its current spelling was developed which was reserves in the sixteenth century. So we can still trays we origins of tone in Jarvi, and we can see it reflected the spelling in an unexpected way. But for linguists has been an excellent language to study, this tone Genesis and it happened like ten minutes ago amazing. And so these tones have developed these languages Punjabi is part of the Indo Aryan gang like Hindi. And no, I can't aim any of the others. Indie Gouda rowdy Murata. Golly. And is like that that nobody the only one, but it's totally in that guy. And it's only Jami right, by the way, folks. I know that many many many people speak Bengali chapter on this one too. I was trying for wit and failing. But yes job is the only tonal one, right? That's right. The tonality the tone has come about probably in much the same way that it came about in Chinese and Vietnamese and several African which many African languages, but in those cases, we cannot see that happening. It wasn't ten minutes ago was like an hour ago. That's way back. So guess don't can I give you my version of somebody asking a question. This is going to be a little boy is asking you, Mr.. Darn darn can I ask you a question whispering. If the language has like like tones than had had you how do those people whisper actually tone is more than just pitch and they pull it off. They actually do it because the tones that go up are also different than other ways that might be a bit longer or they might be bit creaky and the ones that go down may have a bit of a question quality, or maybe shorter, etc. Etc. So to a native speaker the tone, which is absent will still be clear that works in Chinese and that works, Vietnamese and it works job. You know, how you feel like you don't ever quite know enough words, if you ever heard the word expatiates, it means to go on for too long, you feel like you never know enough. And that sort of thing bothers you. There's a great course for you. It's called building a better vocabulary. It's presented by Kevin Flanagan who is an education and literacy, professor at West Chester university in Pennsylvania. 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Well, here's an example, folks of what I mean by how Gaston can make anything sound interesting. You know, that factoid that Switzerland has four languages French German Italian. And then there's that other one that we in the United States never meet anybody who speaks and it's called Romanche. Well, once again, I find romance interesting from my sort of you know, on the spectrum which little kid who loves things that. Nobody else loves perspective. Here is how can stone deals with romance. This is just one one paragraph out of many he says, so where does this leave romance while the situation is complicated. Remanded recognized by the Swiss constitution, and some thirty five thousand people in the canton of Graubuenden, speak the language, but informs that vary from valley to valley. Even simple word like I varies from a two yard. How nice is cable in one dialect J B in another the upshot is that romance speakers from one village have great difficulty understanding villagers who live just a few kilometers away. Had all these dialects not been so isolated for centuries. They would have been absorbed into bigger languages head. They had their own city to act as a cultural center, they would have combined into a single language. Instead they remain today. What they always have been splinters of the broken pitcher once called Latin. That's just one of those places where I always think I wish I'd written it. But I didn't you did that's from lingo. But in babble that leads to a question, you know, how there's Indonesia you you do know now in Indonesia, it's one of those places where you're looking all over the world. They're these big fat. Western European languages spoken where they don't belong. So it is in the United States where English is spoken, and therefore here, I am speaking English. Why would you go to Indonesia and the big languages, Indonesia? And yet if I may the Dutch spent some time there like the Portuguese and did various things that make people uncomfortable, including imposing language hat. Come Dutch isn't the language of Indonesia today. The main reason is. Narrowly that was an excellent alternative, namely malay-, which was in the twentieth century standardize nationalized under the name of Indonesian, and it has a very long tradition of being spoken throughout the archipelago as a link. Franken has a trait language, and it had even been used by the Dutch, colonial administration as a language of contact with the Indonesians also malay- was similar enough to most other languages spoken in that country to make it easy to learn for nearly everyone in the nation was relooking in this respect I have this candidate. So it's not just that. They didn't want Dutch. I think most former is didn't want European language. But in the case of Indonesia, the wasn't alternative which was not so easily available in Cameroon or Pakistan or actually there is one other country in a very similar situation Tanzania in Africa where he takes all these same boxes of speak. It is a trade language is poking by a smallish group, and it has replaced on the language of the former colonizer of of Britain. Actually, there's a question though. Because in Indonesia, you can talk about all the islands that are not really terribly. Well, known beyond Indonesia Java is like the size of galaxy. That is a huge island and oddly enough only three languages spoken on at one of them. So counter-intuitively is Giannis and Japanese is very widely spoken at least on Java and to a point beyond. Why didn't they use Java knees? One reason is that John is very dominant within Indonesia, it's culturally dominant, politically dominant, economically numerically, the leadership at independence or or twentieth century. Actually, this hide that it was for the sake of national unity. It was better to choose a smaller language, so that the other people would not say are, Melissa Japanese. We don't like language we want to split up. We saw two civil war etcetera etcetera that is one thing. The other thing is that the Chinese language was what strongly this liked by other people, partly because it's pretty hard to learn it, well, actually, even for Japanese. It's not all that easy because it has these very complex codes of formality and respect when trying to explain what that means. I was think it's like having to distinguish between corneal John or Mr. mcwhirter of mate or sir except that a billion times, no one thousand times more complex than that just address. It's also loads and loads of other things or also it would be like having to distinguish between two sup upon to dine to eat to Chow down upon to stuff your face to munch et cetera. Correct. Except that these words can be chosen what freely and in Japanese. There are very strict codes. And if you do not adhere these codes if you do not obey them. Sort of like a Meghan era. It's like a almost like a grammatical era. You don't smell good. And it's interesting because Giannis grammar per se in terms of what we think of as grammar as blinkered westerners. It's not really that bad you go through it. And you think wells that really all you have to know. But it's all of this honorific stuff that makes it maddeningly difficult. You get a good sense of that from your chapter as you do. Also, if you change a consonant and say Japanese. Numb related. You knew I was going to do that. But it's interesting. What about Japanese and how to talk like a lady like what is what is the was quite hard for me to read my head around and to believe it, but in Japanese there is actually these long history of slightly separate varieties of the language for men and for women gender, lex as it was like to say, it's no longer as present as it used say forty fifty years ago because well there's been feminism and a Japanese women have fought for linguistic freedom that they want to use. These girly words and always be good. But still even prison they Japan men can use this as a weapon against women putting them in their place inverted commas by setting. You're not talking ladylike it happens. And even today, there are still books where Japanese women can read how to use language to be more successful and loved cetera. As a woman that has no counterpart in in European languages. I think no. I mean in English. It's been said that for example, women are more likely to know a lot of terms for colors like surrise, and and aquamarine. But I know those words, and I don't think I'm a woman and their various very subtle things. The study of language and gender is always interesting. But it seems like it's starker in Japanese. What's one example of women's Japanese as opposed to men's Japanese where you're not supposed to jump the fence? An example would be that women are expected to or a supposed to add prefix too many words, they should not say bread. I should say bread. Of course, I'm not trying to make Chapman's in English, right or they should say. What are they should say? What are they do refuse? Which cultured or more lady night and also with what are known as a modal particles. These small words that Japanese those German as of which expressed sort of attitude or emotion cetera men and women really use different ones there and the male ones are more match. Oh, a more rough and tumble and the female ones are more refined. And that's what they're expected to us. So it's not only the Japanese has the world's most complex writing system. It's not only the Japanese grammar. Unlike Java knees grammar in the lines are not related has its complexities and challenges. But also, they're these gender differences where if you don't observe them, then you sound like a machine or a jackass this stuff is tough. And here's the song that we're going to use the straight Java knees and Japanese it's like, you can speak the same language, except it's a different language, depending on who's speaking. This is from a long lost Broadway musical. Texas li'l Darlan from nineteen forty nine. The protagonist was democratic Senator withdrawal, an attitude, and frankly, given a lot of the racial attitudes. That person would have had nobody wants to see this musical anymore. It is not fail -able for performance. But it was given a cast album and some of the songs are quite cute. One of them is called the yodel blues. I dare you not to walk around singing this for the next two weeks. And it's about these sorts of difficulties in good old English. This is the yodel blues singing are Mary Hatcher, and Kenny Delmar whose character in this. And on the radio was one of the bay sees for foghorn Leghorn, the looney tunes character for those of you who care. Grand where we'd say. They say how. Things real. Thing. She why. Oh. No. When you stop for your kids. You look for things that are both fun and something they can learn from and that is not easy. But now you have Kiwi co to make that easier. Kiwi co designs their product specifically to bring out confidence and creativity through play Kiwi co has hundreds of different products in the focus is on steam that is science technology engineering, and mathematics, these products come with everything that you need from your projects you choose your line of crates and you get them ship. Not just once, but monthly the end of the day, what kids want they just wanna have fun. And each one of these products helps kids have fun with steam science, technology engineering. Our in mathematics changed the way your kid plays with Kiwi. Co visit Kiwi co dot com slash lexicon. And get your first crate free not for some discount free. That's K. I w I c o dot com slash let's Khan for your. I create of toys for free Kiwi co dot com slash lexicon. One other thing what was Ottoman Turkish? Turkish the language then there was Ottoman Turkish where something had gone a little odd, very odd yet, it was very training bees. And in some ways, at least two ways, it was a bit like English in that it had lows of words borrowed from other languages in. This case, the Arabic and Persian. And it also had some grammatical traits that originated there, but he'll difference with English is at Ottoman. Turkish was nobody's mother tongue. It was bit like Esperanto or or like Latin in medieval Europe, it was purely an elite Legua franca which was used at the court and literature in religion to certain extent, but not at all spoken by ordinary. Turkish people what was the Turkish stable? Boy speaking the Turkish person who's washing somebody's dresses. What what were they speaking? They did speak. Turkish. That was known as core of crude Turkish at the time, and it was only off the Ottoman empire had collapsed, and the Turkish Republic had been established that something based on that stable boy. Turkish was declared the that wouldn't call that the official language, but it didn't stop there did turn to different actor. But even that had lots of Arabic and Persian it and other little words and the new leadership wrongly disliked it so between say the nineteen thirties the nineteen sixties Turkish went through several periods of fairly wild puritanism of language urge destabilizing language for the best part of two generations. Mr. Otto, Turk was responsible editor began it. But of course, he died fairly soon. And then the ones who succeeded him that was a certain institution which rating made it is lives work to change Turkish language, and they succeeded, and they were very radical in respect. When it was replaced thousands and thousands of words and either create new ones or borrow from dialects from related languages. The funny thing is the tragic thing is that Jerry this period. The language was really unstable people had trouble keeping up with the language and periods when people reading the newspaper really had to think, wait a minute. What were that I know has been replaced here? I don't think any other country has gone through such a radical bureau. Jim episode. No. And the way you tell the story in the book just keeps you going like potato chips as well. As the story of Persian for those of you who want to know, the story of Persian, they're all sorts of things to be said, and guests don't actually gathers various sources written in various languages and tells the story a readable way in a fashion. I'm not sure I've seen anywhere else in terms of its breath. And so I. Highly recommend guest. I want to ask you one. More thing this language that you and I are speaking right here is English going to eat up every other language in the world. Not likely not likely. I mean, English and other big languages are eaten up many small, which is of course. But I expected hundreds of today's languages will survive either in facial capacity or as lingers for informal, use daily live and actually the could be a big game changer. Is it a predation technology? Translation, technology becomes as good as earth it as generes of make us believe it will not quite there yet. So I will say that if this happens, it will have a great impact those engineers will say when it happens. It will have a great impact. But I think once people can use defy this software to speak English by just speaking their language into a microphone and having other person here English, they will stop learning English the threat and inverted commas of emiss- becoming the only at which in the world will be gone forever. I think more people ought to know that. I must admit that. I'm not looking forward to that time. Because then we can't be people like you and me who like to try to teach ourselves other languages for. No particular reason that just won't make any sense anymore. But yes, it's clear that that time is gonna come. And that means that this ugly thing, I'm speaking right here will not eat up the other six thousand nine hundred ninety nine languages in the world, including your language. A second language will always have advantages, but it will no longer be the purely practical instrumental advantage that it has today. It will be more of a cultural. Same device will always be in the way, it will always be timelag few seconds. It will be awkward. It will never be fun. Speaking for a language is fun that machine will not be. No, no, not at all. But it'll be useful. We'll Gus don't. Thank you so much for coming onto the show and telling us and you for having me babble everybody needs to buy babble around the world in twenty languages by Gaston Doran. And after you read that you're gonna wanna read lingo around Europe in sixty languages where he actually manages to say interesting things about all sixty of the languages in Europe. I know nobody who can do this like style. And I highly recommend the books that he's written guest on. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. John. Thank you. She's friend the welling. She's a sweet has won his long every night in mellow life by these damaging with his cheek gives him run. Friends of the welding. His best Rams his. Fast dot when he is Nevada. They all come hiring a coach Ely. Tim the. If dreams Hindle honeymoon. He doesn't dream that every night when he goes out to make an honest rupee. She's Depp's out to make a lot of we'll be. The as we and ten. But will he if he ever should line while he's doing a real good township gives him Laurent? And speaking of world d'oeuvres vici- says wait, wait till you see how how this goes dervish. If remember on the last show when I talked about that weird little word Ishai played that radio show Vic and Sade and the people are sitting on the porch. And the woman says issue when she wants the other guy to stop talking. Well, you know, I asked you guys whether you would hurt anybody say it, and it is really fun. How this hive mind podcast? Internet thing words, because I think we have found out what that issue is. You can't find it in dictionaries or online. But I think we figured it out. So the idea is that someone is talking about something maybe a little off pudding. That's something. I missed from the context in vision sate, it's not just be quiet. It stop talking about that crushed Armadillo you found on the rotor. Stop talking about how when you pull a hair out. Sometimes there's that little stuff on the bottom kind of ish. Not not. Eighty. But you just say if that when someone says that here's where it comes from that. If almost certainly I'm ninety five percent sure that is is from Norwegian of all things. And it's Michael feely. Thank you, Michael feely for putting me on the path of this. When you first sent me that message, I thought, oh, please. And then I realized no wait with all the feedback coming in. It was exactly right is something where if you look at a map of all the people who wrote you can actually do a met of these things there's this vast concentration of people who remember it in Minnesota, and Wisconsin. And of course, that's exactly the area where great many people from Norway settled not too terribly long ago. And they would have spoken Norwegian. Now, get this not in Norwegian is it. Now, it if you let it go long enough is going to become if you start with. Thicke then that's gonna become something like a get. And then you get ish. It's kind of like in Gaston. Doorns Dutch the word for I is it then in standard German, it's and then each in many German dialects is same sort of thing. So norwegian. There you go. And so that not in these immigrants. Norwegian would have become issue. And that would have meant stop talking about that Armadillo stop talking about that locust play that ruin the harvest something that they would talked about stop talking about your mucus or something like that. So if is Norwegian, and it starts out as it or here or issue and next thing, you know, you've got something that people are saying who wouldn't know Norwegian from their elbow and it spread beyond their. So the creator of Vic and Sade was from Illinois. And I've heard from a disproportionate number of you from Illinois, but then sometimes from even beyond their. So there are people who have been until extent still are. But most of you mentioned your grandmothers who have been saying this issue who have no idea that it started way up near the fjords so language never stops. It keeps going it's like Queen. Because everybody's talking. About bohemian rhapsody lately. Let's do what is generally considered one of their best songs? Goodness, freddie. Mercury. Couldn't really saying. Bob Dylan, Donald Fagan and him. But still here is don't stop me now because you can't stop language. Two. Wanna have a good time? You can reach us now lexicon valley, it's late dot com. That's lexicon valley. It's late dot com to listen to pass shows and subscriber just to reach out go to slate dot com slash lexicon valley. And as the semester ends El actually able to start responding to more of your messages. I promise it will happen. They are stacking up. And by the way, speaking of Michael's, Michael Feeley who put me onto this Norwegian analysis, Michael Chelsea is not the person who put me onto Vic and say the person's name is David Chelsea, David. I'm sorry about that. But in any case, Mike Rollo and his name is not David. But Mike Lolo is always the editor. And I am John mcquarters. Hey, hey.

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20200116 Nicole Sandler Show - Thursdays with Howie Klein

The Nicole Sandler Show

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20200116 Nicole Sandler Show - Thursdays with Howie Klein

"The following program contains graphic material including offensive language. Discretion is advised arise broadcasting for a sprawling outskirts of the Florida everglades collection ritual wilderness. Self South Laud the outer regions of your vanity that equal blue do justly gauziest tasers. This these little goal Sadler show where here If if you'd asked me ten minutes ago I would have told you we were not gonNa have a show today because my internet has been down for the past hour thank you. At and T.. Adjust you just came up And I'm I'm not sure I should have done a show today. This is not been a good week. It's not been a good year so so far. What can I tell you? So the latest Thankfully we have Internet again. Those of you who are kind enough to donate through Youtube sube well Youtube de monetize me today because they say I let me see if I can find their actual reasoning. You know and it's not like there's stuff going on or anything we need to talk about. Your channel is no longer eligible to monetize. Upon a recent review. We found that a significant portion of your channel is not in line with youtube monetization policies and the reason is reused content repurposing purposing someone else's content without adding significant original commentary or educational value. So let's see Amazon killed off my affiliates account because they didn't like the way I was using a portal to assay shop through this and we'll get a little kickback. Youtube is me. At and T.. Is Down I I. I don't know I don't know why I do. I'll tell you what we could use a laugh or two. I'm going to repurpose somebody else's content. Oh my God but I won't use video so so maybe that will count against me takeaways. Mb at the top of the bill iphone four users Joe Biden in a performance. That critics knicks are hailing as awake standing. and Are you okay. We're headed up recovery. Act which put more money into fossil moving moving away from fossil fuels to to enter to solar and wind energy than ever in history. America does lay out. Does in fact limit drug cost sets up allows all the drug companies. Excuse me it allows you to Medicare I. I object to this official policy of apparently keeping candidates up for forty eight hours straight before each debate. Are you running for president president or Miss Teen South Carolina. Meanwhile Minnesota's Senator and CO worker. WHO report you for leaving early? Amy It showed up with a real remember me energy. If you'll recall clever sharp initially said she distinguish yourself from other candidates with her sense of humor. She loves to crack jokes. Like when Elena Kagan had her senate confirmation hearing and amy made a twilight reference asking her if she was on teen Jacob or Edward to which Keagan apparently looked at her blankly replied. I wish you wouldn't even the best comedians bombed from time to time. Let's bring on. Rose Jokes Michigan has a woman governor right now and Cheetah Republican Gretchen Whitmer. Kansas have a woman governor right now and she beat Chris Kobuk and and her name is. I'm very proud to know her. And her name Governor Banke Governor Kelley was at homing like my shadow any moment. Now Oh no go back go back over. No I guess they make couldn't concentrate as much on the jokes last night since she had one thing on her. Mind the bright lights of Vegas. This president is freaking people out there like poker chips and one of his bankrupt casinos. The way he is adding to our debt. I'm going to be able to look at him and say you've treated these workers and farmers like poker chips. I I was in Vegas the other day and someone said don't put your chips on a number on the wheel that isn't even on the wheel that the problem is that the problem problem is definitely the sign of a problem and that problem is that you don't know how relent works. Did you bet all your chips on the number nine hundred zero also appearing at the debate last night repeat Buddha judge moving this the guy wants you to know. He was at the club last night. Tom Steyer was answering. Every question directly into to your eye holes. The Iowa debate stage was even whiter than Iowa itself because this tall glass of Ham decided to buy his way into the debate with the most inessential essential campaign of all time. Here's an ad style released just hours before the debate. Let me tell you how this will go if you nominate me when he calls himself a billionaire businessman news good for the economy. I'll remind him I'm an actual billionaire with A. B. and he's a fake billionaire with a Capital C. Shut shut up. Congratulations is the first campaign ad written by a game of boggle Shire Buddy. You shouldn't be here. Australia's on fire right now. And you're spending spending your money on this you've spent over a hundred million dollars on this dumb vanity campaign. You could build each Koala Personal Igloo. With all things considered sire got up pretty easy especially compared to the much rougher night that mom and dad had in case you didn't hear Sanders Sanders and Warren are having their first personal disagreement. But don't worry the talking heads are being super civilized about it and not milking at all. Let's let's talk about the fighting between the Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren camps getting even more Personal Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. We'll stand just feet apart for the very first time. I'm so there since their first major public conflict. How do they shake hands? How do they look at each other in two thousand eighteen? You told her that you did not believe that that a woman could win the election. Why did you say that? Matter of fact I didn't say Senator Warren what did you think when Senator Sanders told you. A woman could not win the election of Christ the only way that could be trying harder to get them to fight is if they personally oiled up these senior citizens in the octagon. It paid off in epic no-holds-barred brutal smack down. Through the ages Senator Bernie Sanders extended his hand to Elizabeth warns she appeared to reject that. That's it that's what's dominated our national title discourse for thirty six hours to great candidates who are a little sad and disappointed in each other over misunderstanding. Also anyone who has said that America couldn't elect elect a woman. President isn't alone I myself might have shouted it into a bottle of wine or ten. The important thing is Elizabeth. Warren doesn't believe leave that. Since Donald Trump was elected women candidates have outperformed men candidates in Comparative Races and Twenty Eighteen. We took the house. We took back statehouses because of women candidates and women voters look. Don't denied that the question is there. Back in the nineteen sixties people ask could a Catholic win back in two thousand eight people asked if an African American could could win in both times. Democratic Party stepped up and said yes got behind their candidate and we change America Fat Senor in your more inspiring then realizing you live in a country that's willing to shake things up every fifty fifty years every fifty years. Oh where so cutting edge so that apparently is why Youtube de monetize my channel. Because I ca start the show with a comedy bit. 'CAUSE I try to get a few laughs and before we get serious But according to Google who owns YouTube. I- i- repurpose someone else's content without out adding significant original commentary or educational value. Really then what the fuck do I spend hours writing every day. I could do what's news. Hey I write that I put that together I voice it I do the new so I use news clips so Amazon Youtube. At and T. O.. Then and there's of course you know the bank who took our house this week. I'm just two thousand here all right. So here's what's going on. Let me you know what I'm not can read the news. I'm not GonNa do it live today because obviously I'm a little on the emotional side of held it together for a long time but yeah so let's do the you know the recorded version of what's news because Yeah I put that together every day. It's my content. Go figure what the Hell your. Aw It's time for Nicole Sandler's what's news from Nicole Sandler Dot Com and the progressive voices network. I'm not quite sure where to begin today. On one hand band history was made Wednesday when Nancy Pelosi Speaker of the house named seven impeachment managers to prosecute the case against Donald Trump signed the articles of impeachment went and turned them over to the managers to hand deliver to the Senate. This is only the third time in our nation's history. This has happened. So how do you top that as a lead new story very well. Maybe with love Parnasse sitting down for his very first interview to give his firsthand account of the president's agenda regarding Ukraine and Joe Biden and it was stunning and it should be a game changer. It'll be interesting to see how the Senate Republicans react. DO THEY WANNA get to the truth or continue to stonewall and obstruct stay tuned. Let's start with the juicy stuff and cut right to the chase. Rachel Matto asked the indicted. Mr Parnasse what is the main lie being told that you want to correct. His answer was unequivocal. That the president didn't know what was going on president trump. No exactly what was going on He was aware of all my movements. I wouldn't do anything without the consent. The JULIANE or the President I have no reason to speak to any of these officials. I mean they they have no reason to speak to me. Why would presidents Alinsky his inner circle or Minister of Alcoa for all these people were President Per Shankar? Meet with me. Who Am I? They were told to meet with me and That's the secret that they're trying to keep. I was underground underground. Doing their work. Harness also implicated just about everyone from Mike Pence to bill bar to Devon Nunez Vice President Mike Pence and has his plan trip to the inauguration cancelled After you were unable to get the Ukrainian government to commit to announcing investigations Vice President Biden. Do you you know if vice president pence was aware that that was the quid pro quo that that was the trade and that that in fact is why his inaugural visit was called off. When they use a famous quote by Mr Sullivan? Everybody was you believe that Vice President Pence knew what he was. They knew that his trip to the inauguration was contingent on those investigations being announced again. I mean I know he went to Poland and also to discuss this trump's behalf so he couldn't have known. Do you know if Mr Giuliani was ever in contact with Mr Bar specifically about the fact that he was trying to get Ukraine crane to announce this investigation into Joe Biden. Oh absolutely Mr Bar knew about that Mr bar absolutely everything. I mean it's impossible. They've Rudy. Giuliani honey tell you. He'd spoken to the Attorney General's specifically about Ukraine. Not only Victoria Joe or they're all best friends I mean Bor borrowers is Attorney General Bar was basically on the team. I was in shock when I was watching the hearings and when I saw Devon Avenue sitting up there and then they serve. There was a picture where Derek Harvey was back over there. Sitting I text. My attorney. Says I can't believe this is happening because because They were involved then getting all this stuff on Biden. I mean Derek Carvey had several interview skype interviews that I set up with Deaf deaf different prosecutors Lake Kozara Detsky which Anti Corruption Prosecutor of Ukraine Kulik Constantine Kulik was one of the major guys that said had this biden it and stuff so it was. It's hard to see the island that when you know it's scary because you know he was sitting there and making all these Statements and all that he knew very well that he knew what was going on. He knows what's happening in those. Why him the next step would seem to be for the entire trump administration to resign nine since? That's not going to happen. Impeachment trial here we come now. In the wake of that interview Ukraine's Interior Ministry announced a criminal the probe into alleged illegal surveillance of former US ambassador to Ukraine Maria von Avik after text messages released by House. Investigators showed a now congressional candidate Robert F hide and Love Parnasse disgusting. Her being tracked in Kiev for his part Parnes said that he didn't take anything from Hyde seriously that the man was quote always drunk. So there's that now onto the impeachment trial where we're waiting to see how the Republicans can continue to claim that no witnesses should be heard and that the impeachment is as trump says a hoax. CNN continues to provoke infighting fighting among progressives in the wake of the dueling impressions by Senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren of a conversation they had in two thousand eighteen about a woman running for president in twenty twenty for the record. I have no doubt. They both believe they're telling the truth but each came away from their conversation with a different understanding of what was said. said it happens all the time now. CNN has released the audio of what. The mikes picked up after the debate one Warren Refuse. He's to shake sanders outstretched hand told me a liar on national TV. I think you called me a liar on natural. Let's do it right now. One of the discussion have that discussion. You call meal you told me. Let's luckily this can't end well. So enter a coalition of six Progressive Progressive Groups some who've endorsed Warren some sanders issuing a joint statement calling for unity among the two candidates and their supporters. The statement eight men signed by the heads of democracy for America our Revolution Roots Action Sunrise Movement. Working Families Party and Justice Democrats reads reads in Part Sanders and Warren as well as their campaigns and supporters will need to find ways to cooperate the crossfire amplified by the media is unhelpful and does not reflect the relationship between two Senate colleagues who broadly worked well together for most of the last year we hope to build solidarity between delegates affiliated with these candidates prior to the convention and will encourage the campaigns to work towards a unified convention strategy after the final primaries on on June second while we firmly believe that either warriner sanders should lead our nation in two thousand twenty one we will in the end go all out to defeat trump no matter who the Democratic nominee is amen and that's just a bit of what's news for now I'm Nicole Sandler if you appreciate these reports and the Nicole Sandler show. I hope you'll consider making a contribution. My work is one hundred percent listener supported. And I can't do it without your help. Find out more at Nicole. Sandler DOT COM mm-hmm. Please click on that donate button. All right I'm going to try to hold it together. There's a lot of stuff to talk about a lot of things that that didn't make it into what's news Let's see what I skipped over. Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed a constitutional overhaul during his State of the Nation Address which just happened the other day. to boost the powers of parliament and the cabinet. It's actually Putin wanting to become dictator for life in Russia. So he he's saying he's making all these changes. Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev submitted his resignation. Shortly after after that. And then you know. So he's he's readying for a position in Putin's new a dictator for life position or something. I don't know Let's see all right. I don't even know I don't even know okay. So you know one of the things I played in that What's news segment was fucking CNN? I don't know how they could be any worse. That Abby Philip Woman I used to think she was an okay reporter but the way she dealt with that question with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren after Bernie Sanders said I never said that to her. They turned she. Abby Phillips turns to Elizabeth Warning says so what did you think when Bernie Sanders said. She will woman couldn't win seriously to the point. Where and actually I saw this morning? Mika Brzezinski Kinski and Joe Scarborough even said what the fuck while they didn't say fuck. Because you know they're on cable television. We're actually you can say fuck. They just choose not to. But I digress. But even they said that what the hell is that. Don't you understand when you're whether you're moderating the debate debate or you're interviewing somebody you listen to the answers and that's how you formulate the next question based off the answer the correct answer the the correct question for Elizabeth. Warren should've been Bernie. Says he never said a woman can't win. What what do you think you heard because what I believe and I think I said this yesterday what I believe is neither one of them is lying? How many times have you had a conversation with someone especially over subjects object so contentious as this sexism in politics and walked away with two different impressions of what that conversation Asian was? I'm sure Bernie believes he said Look I. Of course I knew a woman can win. I just know Donald Trump is going to do to any woman who might be his opponent. Because he's a sexist misogynist bigoted piece of fucking Shit. Sorry my language is going to be on the salty side today. 'cause I'm in a mood if you don't like it turn it off. I don't know what else to tell you. sorry lost my train of thought with that And I believe Elizabeth Warren heard in her mind Bernie Sanders saying well. Women can't win as as he he was talking about what Donald Trump would do to any female opponent. I don't think either one of them lied. CNN just wanted to set up a cage fight and then all right so then they made a big deal over at the end. That's right remember the telephone Game Terry Altman in the youtube chat room. You start with something and you go around the room and everybody whispers in the next person's era when it gets around the room what the message they have on. The other side is hundred eighty degrees from the original message. That's what happens. People hear things differently. That's why an eyewitness testimony in a criminal trial is not considered very reliable because people see things through their own lenses everybody brings their own experience to whether it be a conversation. Or you're an argument. They hear what they want to hear it. Selective hearing it's selective comprehension so So so I don't think either one of them did anything wrong but then CNN decides afterwards big Brouhaha was made up made over the fact that Elizabeth Warren wouldn't shake Bernie's hand. Which I I thought was rather fucked up myself? Then they realized do the mics may have been off for the. You know the mix going out on air but they were still miked we have it on tape and sure enough. They release the tape. Now I'm GonNa show you what transpired if you're watching on youtube you'll see it because they haven't youtube hasn't completely killed my account yet. You just can't I just can't monetize. It can't make any money from it What else assists new? I don't make any money from the show. But I digress. What I want you to watch and listen for if you're if you're listening on the Audio Stream is what what happens you here? You see if you're watching on Youtube you see Elizabeth Warren Approaching Bernie Sanders Bernie puts his hand out. Elizabeth Pulse her back. And you'll hear her. Say I think thank you just said. I lied on national television or something like that while they are doing this little dance. Tom Star walks up any person with any kind of self awareness would walk into that situation. See there in the middle of something and go oops and turn turn and walk away but Tom Steer stood there. Sort of like Eliot Engel standing behind Nancy Pelosi when she's announcing the the seven internet managers. Who are going to try the Internet impeachment managers who are going to try the impeachment in the Senate? Eliot dangle is like lurking behind her. Did you see that yesterday. He did he didn't like last week to. He's a strange man. Anyway I again. I digress. any normal person would say. ooh This is a thing. I'll come back later but Tom. Steiner stood there. And you'll hear year after Bernie and Elizabeth decide. This is not the time to talk about this. Tom Steyer says I just wanted to say hello. I couldn't make this. Should I if I tried here. You go from the Democratic debate into Moines Iowa. This is the last one Americans will win the Democratic candidates Oh Shit asked okay now carcasses in twenty all right. Sorry I had the wrong piece the video up do I have. I know. I've got the audio here. Sorry about that. Here's the video I mean. Here's just give it up today. Here's the audio anyway. I don't have the right video. I thought I did but I don't here. We go on national TV. I think you called me Aligarh on national. Let's not do it right now. One of the discussion. We'll have that discussion. You call meal you told me. Let's not get nobody just wants to hiring yup good. I don't WanNa Camila just want to say hi Bernie in the what are you kidding. Me As he that lacking in self awareness and and social graces. He must be because. Let me tell you what happened last night. So last night they're playing thing might enter alive at two twenty central time on progressive. Voices is still all screwed up and they will be until you know an for another couple of weeks until they move onto onto the new thing if you're well if you're listening on progressively since you're not gonNa hear me right now I was gonna say over to Nicole Sandler Dot com slash. Listen Dash Live and you can hear it there but let me tell you what so so sorry I just got A. I got to finish this. The thought on Tom Steyer so you heard what he said. I just wanted to say hi so I guess he thought he was being funny last night right sometime between nine and ten. PM Eastern when Rachel Maddow's interview with with Lev Parnassus was airing on MSNBC. And if you looked on twitter it was all oh my God. I can't believe what what we're hearing. I mean my tweet on the subject was this manno interview with left. Harness is a game changer. Donald needs to resign like today. But what Tom Steiner did while the rest of us are watching that interview going this is all it. And here's the proof. Tom Style tweets quote. Just want to say hi America seriously. I'm not kidding if I happen to during the interview I went over to twitter to tweet out. This interview review is a game changer. This is this is it and I see comment after comment of people heavy hitters going. Oh my God. This is stunning. I can't believe what I'm hearing. This interview is incredible. And then there's Tom Star in the middle of it who tweets just want to say hi America uh-huh oh only had a rim shot on my little wallow sound seriously. Couldn't make that stuff up. Here's a little something that MSNBC put together. Even I. I give credit for the content. I play this is just a little montage. It's forty nine seconds worth of some parnassus statements to Rachel motto and some of the contradictions from the Donald Trump White House had with lev harness and eager. No No those gentlemen. He know exactly who we were. He knew exactly who I was especially because I interacted with them and a lot of events. Talk to this guy less partners or whatever his name is you know. It's possible but I haven't gone through all my phone makers I don't really recall. Do you know Congressman Devin. Nunes They Justice Department Department spokesman TOLD POLITICO yesterday at the president and never directly asked to launch any type of investigation into Biden Mr Byrne everything I mean. It's impossible. I never discussed the issue of of The issue of the Biden Ski Ice President Pence was tasked at that meeting meeting with getting presents. Alinsky to announce investigations of Joe Biden specifically. What sorry sorry about that? Yes he said. Yes specifically so Mike Pence new bill bar. Dr was part of the group who else Devon Nunez. He knew although he says he didn't. It is stunning. It is absolutely absolutely stunning. What's going on and today? The actual impeachment process began. The Internet was down during all this so I didn't see any of the history happening. Thank you very much. At and T.. But well at least they came up in time for the show. So I I I thank goodness for small miracles But apparently chief justice John Roberts was walked walked over to the Senate by Chew Republicans and two Democrats that's the part of the pomp and circumstance came in. He was sworn in and now I guess he's in the process of swearing in all one hundred senators who who needs to be sworn in. That's the way it works by the way. What sign for Howie Klein so I can save? I can save this for tomorrow. Should I need to fill sometime because I got not so much stuff but you know what. It's time for Howie Klein. Are you a multinational corporation. Hungry for a treat will come on down Schmucky chucky cheese renal title personally. Be Seated by Chuck Schumer himself so many dishes and they're all fresh. You'RE GONNA love our blue dog special. The Diner Albert because as we say so a good hamburger and French fries and every burger comes with a side order of grits. I Love Chris. 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Well they say in our review we found content on your channel that is not in line with the following guidelines and what it says. My my problem is reused. Content repurposing purposing someone else's content without adding significant original commentary or educational value. And is there an opportunity that you have. Where were you can appeal application reopened on February fifteenth? So I have to wait a month and then I can reapply but apparently in in order to get reinstated. I've gotta go back through all of my shows all of my posted videos and I guess pull out any clips that I played of from from a news broadcast or a comedy. I like to try to open the show with a bit of comedy because things are GonNa get serious throughout the rest of the hour. I've got to pull all of that down because 'cause I don't get enough original content of my own it. None of it makes sense. None of it makes sense. Wow Yeah or point yeah. This after Amazon killed off my affiliates account where I was able to see if people bought stuff through my site I'd get a small Mall Commission on it brought in a few bucks a month at the beginning of pride in more and they were doing way on my blog. Site is well. Although it's not active but I I don't know mine works anymore now. You know why because what I did instead of what they like you to do is write these blog blog posts doing reviews of of products and putting links that people would click through. And buy you buy off of that link and you get the credit from what you linked to. Well what I did was I said. Here's my Amazon portal going through here and anything you buy goes through room. I think well that's not allowed. I can only promote individual links. I can't use a portal. I can't say by through my sight and so because of that they killed off accounts. And if you're not taking a lot of money no I was making maybe one hundred bucks a month. Oh that's pretty good now at the beginning when it first started I was closer to five hundred a month but they kept whittling away at the commission's and at the end it was maybe one hundred bucks bucks a month and they killed that and say Youtube. You can sell a lot of records. I refinish books you would think I don't the thing is people. Don't go to my website. They you know they either they Subscribe to the podcast and so it automatically downloads to their I tunes or whatever. Oh I potter. Wherever they listen on or they watch on Youtube or they listened through progressive voices? They rarely go to my website. The people that do that are on my website insight on the listen live page you know participating in the chat there. It's a really small group on. My website does not get a lot of traffic. So you know doing stuff off like that. It's not GonNa help me anyway just as you know that. Yeah it is what it is. So Howie Klein said. Today I went to download tyranny dot com. I tend to do in the morning and your top two stories are both pretty stunning. One is about what's going on with Ukraine and all this stuff and Oh my God did you see The that Parnis interview last night with Rachel Matto. Oh absolutely absolutely absolutely I watched it in fact I think my my my First story tomorrow is is about that and I use her videos. Ah was brilliant and I think you know world changing and I was just telling listeners. What blew my mind is in the middle of this in the middle title of it as I went on twitter? Say This interview is a game changer. Trump should resign now or his whole administration should resign or something like that. And then I I'm looking thing it all the comments that people are and everything was about that interview because it was earth shattering it was re game changing and and Tom Steinmeyer tweeted in the middle of it and he tweeted. Just want to say hi America. I saw your tweet about that weird. Yeah you know what I wrote about was Something that I can't remember the name of Ice Shorn shorelines I can't remember his last name Talk I L L I remember that. Anyway he writes Online for one of the blogs and he talked about how bannon had had had said. You know the meteors our enemies more than the Democrats. Put all the Shit in the world out there into the Onto the airwaves into the news so everyone gets confused. And especially when you think of trump's supporters who tend to be very stupid and uneducated and can't hold cold fought for more than a minute and have no no capacity for critical thinking You very easy to confuse them. So you know we. We looked at this this interview that Rachel did with partners. And you like you said it's a game changer. It's Trump should resign but if his fans they just shrug their shoulders and say well you know they said this and someone else said that and it's probably not true and it's on Msnbc so definitely not true and they don't believe believe it. So yes change your I you know it should be based on the content. It's it's incredible but I don't think that for these These trump you know there's about forty percent of the country that still likes him more thirty nine percent and they It's nothing just doesn't mean a thing now no it doesn't it is kind of nuts. there there's so much going on that we're pulled into million different directions. You have a piece also obviously about the impeachment and the the odd choices. I think that Nancy Pelosi he made in picking the impeachment managers. There's Adam Schiff. There's Jerry Nadler Okay Zoe. lofgren Hakeem Jeffries. Freeze Val demings Jason Crowe and Sylvia Garcia. I don't even know who they are. Well they're kind of random pick you know I I I spoke to. I've mentioned this in in my post but I spoke to a member of Congress who I think was at a bar when I called him and drinking Well I don't think he would have been that that forthcoming but basically he's I quoted him word for word without naming him but he said you know. Nancy is going to make her decision who to pick not based on WHO's competent and who's qualified and who knows how to handle TV You know but aside from the you you know the the two chairmen Nadler inch and Schiff who she had to pick and who are the right people to be part of this. She's just picked based on identity politics. We gotta have of this number of men in this men number of women we gotta have black. We gotTA have white we. I mean we gotTa have a Hispanic. They're here to figure out. Why Jason Croat's that's the one I can explain every other person in this thing except him? Yeah Yeah me you too. I don't get it and and I'm sorry if you're GonNa pick you know sorry you needed just a sort youngest white guy for your identity politics. Maybe what but changed same. You're very smart. I mean there's some some of them can't think on their feet some of them you can read what their staffers right for them but can't do anything else And not intelligent not not. I'm not saying that about all of them. Just some of them and I it's a shame when you do you think of who she left off. You know someone like Congress's number one constitutional expert Jamie Raskin for Maryland's on there. Could you know I mean you gotTa make this thing also like somewhat interesting and the people that she brought on are not not interesting. They're not going to be good on TV. Why Not Pramilla? Dry Apol- he's part of the Judiciary Committee and she would have been a woman and a woman of color and wow someone when really smart but no. That's not she's not looking for really smart apparently in fact some of these decisions of her she's looking really dumb and I'm not a big fan of Eric's wall well right. But he's certain amount of charisma he's Kinda telegenic he's smart he's he's a former prosecutor ordering knows how to do this stuff and he's both on the judiciary and the intelligence committee and I mean what kind of idiot wouldn't put him on. It doesn't make any sense at roll like I said I'm not a big fan of his but he belong on there. I feel the same way. He did really well during the house. Impeachment inquiry hearings he he was always spot on and he could have been the young ish white guy as could Jamie Raskin have been they either. One of them would have better filled that slot. Jason MM Crow. Who I never heard of is Phil so anyway? It's an interesting post you have about that. You've got another piece going live when we finish up in about twenty minutes. It's at down with tyranny dot com that has to do with endorsements and I don't I may have some breaking news for you breaking news the Clark Clark County Clark County in Nevada. That's Las Vegas the Clark County Black Caucus said today it will throw its support behind Bernie Sanders Sanders the latest in a flurry of Nevada. Endorsements this week as he seeks to shore up support in a key early contest. How do you like that that's from? CBS News that kind of shocking. Because Harry Reid who certainly is not Bernie quarter or or background in any way shape or form Usually keeps control of things like that. That's right that to happen. That must that everybody must be completely like in shock. Read does not let things like that happen. I guess he's slipping flipping a little bit. Maybe a good thing for the for the Democratic Party of Nevada right and Bernie in the last twenty four hours or so score or secured a couple couple of other big endorsements. You WanNa talk about them. Yes I mean what I what I did in the Post. This coming up when you're finished is Compared the kind of endorsements that Biden is rolling out compared to the kind of endorsement Bernie's rolling out and the point I was trying to make is that that Baden's endorsements don't motivate anybody for anything in any way I mean he's he's getting endorsed by Blue Dogs and new DEM's right and who who were against everything that people want you know. They're all against Medicare for all. Obviously they're they're not interested in the green new deal. They don't do anything except like take money from corporations. They sit in the back benches and don't do anything that's who he's who he's saying in the endorsers in fact. I didn't put this in the story because I did last week. He he got this awful freshman from Iowa named Amy Thinking our and our has. She's nothing she's just she's just a thing that's there she was lucky enough to be running In A in a blue wave year or an anti red wave year and she you know I I called a couple of my my friends who were in the legislature she served in the in the legislature and I asked him about her and this was when she was first running and they told me the same thing she was worthless. awfullest Lazy didn't ever get anything accomplished No one liked her particularly even people who didn't not like no one really liked her she she just she was just there and then she decided to run for Congress and one thing led to another and she went in there were a few things that led to another and and she went up winning which was odd and surprise? Everybody will now the media the corporate media has been sort of ballyhooing. This as there's like some great thing that means something for for for Biden's vote in in Iowa's though she she was somewhat important well the fact of no matter is A. OC was in her district campaigning and drew several thousand people. He was in the district campaigning for Biden Biden Biden. And and I don't know what the number was. I mean. The paper says it was a one hundred people but she'll was not it didn't look like one hundred people to me go. Look I mean. Maybe they were camping all the Biden staffers who were in the bus right but it looked like fifty people. Wow so you know an AFC is bringing in in south of thousands of people to see Bernie and and Biden's people. I mean there was another picture that that got sort of went semi viral Of John Kerry was out to Who endorsed Fine Biden? And and there were seven people who came to see John on carry. I mean and that's Biden's world he doesn't understand that now Bernie is bringing people who actually mean something Ilhan Omar more who's doing two giant rallies for Bernie tomorrow because tomorrow was the first day of voting in Minnesota and they'll be thousands thousands thousands of people who come to that she she. She stands for something she means. Something if I ask you what is amy thinking you probably say who's that. Yeah I mean even in Iowa people would say And he keeps you know he won that I read about this morning. Just waking up is the This guy who was a congressman in Illinois and his son now has that seat and the Sun Ah and these are both. They're both Republicans and the sun is the CO chair of trump's Reelection campaign in Iowa and the father endorsed Biden Congressman and. Yeah you by Biden makes sense for him. Of course Biden is more like Reagan. Who this worships Ray Ray what was his name. O God Raila. Ray Larry something anyway. It doesn't matter what his name is or his son's name He worships Reagan. He looks at trump. And not anything like regularly looks at Biden very much like I didn't hidden endorses endorsed by. So that's that's the kind of you know in the Blue Dogs of Galore that that's who he endorses right right and one guy came right from voting Max rose came right from voting against the The resolution that that would have prevented trump from making war with our power in Congress. Right he was one of three. I think who voted against it. Hey through eight. Everquest when Republicans one Independent. I should say anyway. He was one of the seven Democrats came came from that voting endorsed and does Biden. I mean what kind of an optic is that. Even it's awful and then you get Bernie. This morning he rolls out Walk cocaine the chair of the of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and I. I have a video of that up on my blog. You get you get You know organizations that mean something to people. Those are the pe- those the that's where the value of endorsements come in and that's those are the kinds of endorsements that Bernie is getting so that's really what my what my post is about right And I hope people understand what I'm trying talk about it. It's not just about bashing by always happy to do that. But it's also talking about the efficacy of of endorsements themselves. Why why they mean? I don't know that many people who will go and vote for somebody just because so someone else endorse them. But but you know when you get someone unlike. AFC Bernie or someone like Rashida to lob who endorse Bernie or someone like Ro Khanna who endorse Bernie that that says something to people. They know who those people are. I look at that list of Biden endorsers and I know who they are and anyone. Any one looks at that list when Moses those people are which say wow maybe this biden is terrible because all these endorses a terrible right. Yes exactly and you mentioned Charlie crist former Republican governor Florida. Thank you whole career. You Republican or Florida. I know that right. And that's why all of these never trumpers the ones who now populate MSNBC. That's the make up. The bulk of their guests is there and their key contributors. which are they're paid experts? All these never trumpers from Rick Wilson to Bill Kristol to John Hauritz to all these people. What they they like Joe Biden because he's the most Republican off them? All these people are not put down on trump. Right we Wilson for example. He's hysterical. You funny and he's very articulate and he puts down trump it's very good entertainment entertainment However the problem with that is it comes with something and it comes with him and the others you know I have a problem with the mole as well putting putting down Bernie? I'm saying terrible things about Bernie one of them In fact who who just ripped into trump talked about how terrible trump is and then said but if if Biden if if Bernie's the nominee although trumpeter Nat Nat Rick Wilson is singing that song. He's like Bernie Sanders will a lose lose. Forty eight states shut the fuck up. I'm sorry did you see the Florida head to head today. Now I I I thought it was what I did you see it anyway. I hate that in Florida. First of all the only person who wasn't clearly winning was Mayo. Repeat he was fifty fifty against trump right but everyone else's winning but guess who's winning by the most Bernie Sanders. Yeah I know that yeah I knew that I did see Bernie is I did see that. Yup I had a feeling that I thought made my it made me feel good So yeah I send to Rick Wilson. Yeah you know I'm so sick of these Republicans because they are I get that. They feel ostracized from today's Republican Party. That's all all trump all the parties because they lost their party. They own the party. I mean if you look at these lists these are all people that have worked for you. You know every every Republican since Reagan And and you know they're all big shots on one level or another somewhere in you know the various Administrations Shinzo all of them were in the campaigns of these guys George W Bush George Bush jeff the the the you know all the Republicans in the House and the Senate. That's that's that's where they all come from and now they suddenly they don't have a party anymore. All these The Old Republican establishment that they were part of has crumbled and they hate trump for it and they look at Biden and they see. Oh yeah he's not exactly. I mean he is pro choice or used to not be pro-choice he's probably right but thinking and you know he's there Kinda guy kind of races women that he's he you know. We just had a vote. I think it was A couple of hours ago on Nafta two point which passed it passed it in the past. gigantically no Bernie voted. No and Shelly added arguing with him the other night on on the debate stage because he's forced yeah big thing in that who else voted no is no Elizabeth Warren she voted for Horrid Booker Gillibrand Harris Sanders. Okay so four of the WHO ran for the nation Bernie's the only one still in the ranger. Group Little Chucky Schmucky Chucky Schumer voted. No along with a Brian Schatz of Hawaii Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island Highland Rejec rate of Rhode Island also to Rhode Islanders and one Republican Pat Toomey but Schumer was a shy sense the total sense because his whole thing is green new deal that he's really really about that in a very big way he cares about other things but one of the things that motivated him to run to begin with he represents Hawaii and you know they are very very vulnerable to To climate change. And that's it. He's he's been working on that his whole political career. Yeah so of course. He's going to vote against a bill. That is very harmful to the environment or and You Know Pelosi say she fought and lost but hey how about losing something else. Well I lose that one and Bernie. That's the reason. The Bernie voted. No right I mean there are other reasons. That Bernie voted. No but I think that was the big reason. That Bernie voted. No it was all about climate change in the environment. It's not good enough. He said Yeah. Is it a little better than it was was before. Is it a little better than after. Yeah but they're still count like climate change. A little better doesn't do anything agree Louis. There's nothing you're GONNA die. Yup Yup yeah with all this going on I almost hate to bring this up but I feel like I have to just because of our shared past did just see the rock and Roll Hall of fame inductees. Well I voted actually one. Oh God all right well you know Depeche Mode Doobie brothers. Nine inch nails the notorious B I G T rex and Whitney Houston well. I voted for Nine Inch Nails and Depeche bowed. Okay and I. I can't remember everyone else who you mentioned. Okay now I'm guessing you may have voted for. Oh Todd Rundgren who. I'm sorry so you don't think todd rundgren will I mean if there's a rock and roll rate and I. I don't have a problem with him but I didn't vote for him. Who came before him? He's one of the ones that I had on my list. I'm did you vote for. Mc Five I voted fancy five you would There are people who are saying conductor. DID NOT MC five did not get in Pat Benetton. Didn't get in. I'm not Benetton Fan but I think she made inroads into women. I'm in rock and roll Others that were nominated. That didn't get in Soundgarden Dave Matthews Band Judas Priest motorhead Rufus Rufus and Chaka. Khan soundgarden thin lizzy. I BUT WHITNEY HOUSTON. I'm sorry if it's walking all she take take questionable. I don't know I. I saw a lot of my music friends online outraged and so what I did was I went went back and I realized this was twenty years ago next month I flew to New York and I don't know if you I guess you were involved in this. When steely Dan had their comeback with two against nature their first album in twenty years I went to New York to record interview with them? For the world premier broadcast wasn't it it was. I was the president of the record company. You did wolf and them than I did. Well and that album wound up winning album album of the year. I mean it was their first record in twenty years. It was one of the best it was. It was a highlight of my career. Seriously to fly to New York to the studio where they recorded the record and interview them there were so irreverent and so Regarding the rock and Roll Hall of fame and I I went back and I found that section in where they were fucking with the hall of fame and excerpted it and I'm going to share with some of my radio friends. Who are you know upset about the the outcome of the voting waiting for that album platinum? Yes so it was very very good one for them. Yeah and by the way you you sent me that interview that you did right and I just I loved it. I couldn't get enough of it especially especially him playing. Live just fantastic. I mean absolutely fantastic and I'll tell you what was so cool about that and I hadn't heard that in probably twenty years either. The radio station had just been on the air a month and this was on a weekend that John Hamed came up and he and I were just alone in the studio and I ran. Ah The music room. We didn't even we had then named it. The Music Hall. But it hadn't been named that yet we it was the music room. We still had the old call letters which were hysterically enough K. L. I. T.. It used to be like an easy listening station K.. Light but I'm sorry. Kailai joked about marijuana K.. Light but Kale. It we would joke. It's your pleasure button on your radio. Dial until they changed the call letters to K- sea. Hey what's we became but it's still so new in that radio station on. I hadn't heard that interview in twenty years. I miss good. I mean really. Didn't he's such a pro. So I mean I I you know I we the reason that you send it to me of course for people who are listening and don't know what I'm talking about is 'cause I had I spend time with him and and I wrote a post about it and He and there was some very very rare shows that he did with Jimi hendrix Jim Jr was before Jimi Hendrix was known as Jimi Hendrix took. Notice Jimmy James and he had a band that would back people up and he backed up. John Hammond a bunch of shows and I went to those shows and he talks about the historical historical. I've just some kid wandering around concert club and it turns out that they they're very very historical right and talked about that it was not only Jimi Hendrix who work who was in his band. Then but but Eric Clapton to that was that was a different different show on did miss that one. Yeah so what a history. Anyway I will podcast those things and maybe I'll play the it's just a short steely Dan thing. Maybe I'll play it at the end of the show. So if you WANNA hold on till Hilda the broadcast part is overall L.. Added in for the PODCAST. Anyway just going back through the history books and commenting on what's going on so the next week. I don't know what's going to be going on because we're going to be knee deep in in impeachment stuff. I would think on Thursday so we'll kind of I guess played by year Waikiki. You may rebroadcasting the more if they are in the middle of like not that. There's so far we don't have testimony me and I guess if there's witnesses testifying that I want to carry live if it's just won't we'll see how it goes. I'm sure we'll we'll be on next Thursday. Hopefully hopefully we'll be. I'll still be standing next Thursday. We made it through the hour so we got that going for us. Howie Klein find him? Down with tyranny dot com and of course I the Blue America. PAC help him help progressive candidates. We need the best. Progressives we can find in Congress when hopefully a Democrat takes hopefully Bernie Sanders becomes president next year. Howie Klein always a pleasure? Thank you so much. Thank you all right. Talk to you next week. Bye Bye bye all right now if you WANNA stick around We'll do a little overtime not not on progressive voices progressive voices. Go go to the PODCAST and Nicole Sandler Dot com to keep listening all right. So if you're still here. I said I mentioned this. The steely Dan thing. So if if you're interested back in it was ten years ago next month hold on now. I gotta find the the clip because I didn't bring it over. The date was actually. I know I have it here somewhere. I know saved it February. Eight th two thousand so we're coming up on twenty years and that's the day that I went. Where did I save it to do this whole thing and I now? I can't find where I saved. Saved that clip to Well then that's not gonNA work. You know what I'll do I will. I'll save it for tomorrow so I'll all play it on overtime tomorrow. I edited it. I found it and hold on. Maybe I can find it here. Give me just one more second Walter. Becker occur and Donald Fagan on the rock and Roll Hall of fame. was that that clip. Hold on February eighth here. It is okay all right so this is it's only like three minutes so so I was interviewing them and I brought up the rock and Roll Hall of fame because their website they they used to have a great website. Sino Walter Becker died about three years ago and I don't even think the website the old steely Dan dot com with all the blog stuff is still up again. This was twenty years ago but at the time. They were merciless. When it came to the rock and Roll Hall of fame? Interesting note is that they were inducted. I believe in two thousand one or two thousand two They still held it in an irreverent manner. They were not serious about it. And you'll hear this is in the middle of my interview with With Walter Becker and Donald Fake and better known steely Dan talking about the rock and Roll Hall of Fame Rock and roll same thing originally way it started out as Donald and I between the two of us. We have a whole bunch of old digital tape recorders that we bought back in the eighties. That are pretty. Are Dinosaurs source now. They're pretty useless in their cluttering up his studio here in New York and mine in Hawaii in other words. The storage problem and We hit upon the idea of donating eating all these machines to the rock and Roll Hall of fame in exchange for you know whatever sort of consideration we could obtain and A nice tax. Write off off yeah and And and and you know then then at some point someone added the idea of well. Let's throw in a case of honey mustard you know. And it just went downhill from there really so all. This is is available on the website. which we'll talk about in a little while but it's the here's an interesting? I don't think it's on the website is that at one point You know I- parents live in Cleveland and My Niece Emily Practices Piano Piano I learned on is very cheap Equa. Sonic Spin Spin it and They were going to get a new piano so they said well what he wants to do with your old piano and I said well I don't want to ship it back. I tell you what. Let me call the rock and Roll Hall of FAME AC- If they want on it and they said they didn't have room for it so I had a ship it back to New York. Imagine see we didn't put that on the on the on the website because we I thought the the outrage the sheer outrage would sort of you know. We didn't want to do that to the hall of fame. Then see but I one would think that if there is a rock and Roll Hall of Fame Donald Fagin learned. Plants should be well. I don't know it's it's very narcissistic of me. And when when he had to think that they'd want the kind of but on the other hand it was really dragged me and have to pay the shipping bashing New York. Yeah I mean if they if they forget about the piano what about the What about the three am digital machines? uh-huh the honey mustard. I know we've made all these offers. I mean we've we've really been the nice guys In this situation and I think this goes back like a long way actually and You know if if someone really wanted to beat the bushes you'd find some some You know You know thinks go way back. So it's it's as complex history between us and and the hall of fame while maybe someone in Cleveland is listening and we'll take notice. Yeah yeah sort of mixed feelings about that. Donald Fagin and Walter Becker. We're GONNA listen to another song from the brand new album. Two against nature this one's called Janey runaway that I mentioned the Swedish ginger cookies just realized that's the last thing we offered them. We can do that when we come out of the song though just did it and said Oh I think we're all back on the air will. I can put it wherever they want. I mean you know they can edit that and somewhere say just in case. Let's start now. Well I can't do it again on a no. Do you bake them yourself. No otheir commercially obtained but very good at these Adams. She likes them. Okay we're back with Walter. Becker and Donald Fagin steely Dan and it went from there. I just thought you'd appreciate that. And since we're coming up on the twenty year anniversary of recording that interview I'm GonNa make a note note around February eighth. I will well. I can't air it on Youtube because there's music involved in the show but I will. Ah Maybe do a special audio show or a podcast. I'll podcast. This world premiere broadcast of steely Dan's two against nature with the legendary Walter Becker and Donald Fagan and one of the highlights of my career. was that interview flowing from La to New York to be with them at the studio where they recorded the album to record this interview. It was pretty awesome so anyway February eighth will be twenty years. We also have another anniversary coming up. It's the ten year anniversary on a Tuesday of air. America radio going off the air and of citizens united the decision from the Supreme Court to many Big Anniversary's coming up. We'll deal with all of it. All right that's it for overtime. I'll see you tomorrow. Hang in there. I guess I'm saying to me but you to see tomorrow by.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Harold Reynolds (10-25-18)

"It's all about me. Dan, patrick. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log did you hear the news metro PCS is now metro by t mobile now, you get new plans with unlimited high-speed data all month long, all on the T mobile network. Check out the new metro by t mobile today and discover the smarter way to get unlimited metro by t mobile that's genius during congestion, the fraction of customers using greater than thirty bucks per month. May notice reduce speeds and metro customers may notice reduce speeds versus on T mobile customers. Video streams at forty p coverage not available in some areas. See store for details and terms and conditions broadcasting from the Mercedes man cake. This is Dan, Patrick our one, Dan Dan Patrick show on this Thursday here in New York City. We're ready to go Harold Reynolds going to stop by. We'll talk about last night's performance game two of the World Series the series now shifting to Los Angeles or game three and four and perhaps game five. Greg kinnear. The actor will join us coming up next hour, and we'll check in with the Oakland Raiders. The situation is not getting any prettier for Jon Gruden eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Tonight dolphins at the Texans Baylor and West Virginia and the nuggets and the Lakers Lakers finally wanna game. I didn't know if they were going to win a game. But they they won last night. They beat the pesky Phoenix Suns. And now they've got the nuggets the undefeated nuggets come into town. Mclovin. We'll have a poll question stat of the day. Play of the day. Our Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Say good morning to our radio and TV partners direct TV audience number that channel two thirty nine and the NBC sports network. Also, our two hundred three hundred thirty six radio affiliates around America, Steph curry drop in fifty one on the wizards last night. There was a lot of great NBA performances last night, the Greek freak was unbelievable again coli Leonard had another big night land. Stevenson had a big night for the Lakers. But. Chance to watch a little bit of that is kind of flipping back and forth with the dodgers and the Red Sox. And as I talked about at the beginning of the playoffs. I talked about at the beginning of the World Series, the small things and not relying on the home run. You're going to win the World Series. And that's what's happened. So far small things ball play taking advantage of certain matchups. Dodgers keep sitting left handed hitters and the Red Sox. Go up two games to none. The you know, they're not doing it with the home run ball. And this is what Alex score brought over from Houston when he was their bench manager or system manager. They're put the ball in play because it used to be a we've gotten used to this. Hey, you can have a to forty batting average hit thirty homers drive in eighty two runs and strike out one hundred fifty times, and you can be an all star. It didn't used to be that way. But I think what you're seeing is the Red Sox have depth. They have got with two outs. They're unbelievable because they put the battle in the ball. They're not trying to hit home runs. They're trying to put the ball in play. It's worked so far through the first two games and David price given credit because I don't know if you thought going into this postseason, boy, David price is going to be great. He's one of those guys great in the regular season or sometimes you'll stumble upon a game, and you go boy prices lights out, and then he gets to the postseason and the lights go out on him. You know, here's a picture at an ERA over five in the playoffs. He'd lost nine straight decisions. Now, he's helped Red Sox to three consecutive wins. In some of the greatest pitchers in baseball history. Haven't been great during the postseason, you know, Greg Maddux. And Tom glavin. I think we're right around five hundred pitchers and price fit in with that group. It's weird to have a guy who's one of the highest paid players in the game in you're going. Hey, good for David pricey pitched. Well, like, we expect somebody getting paid that much to be great Red Sox up two. Oh, and who knows we might not see David price again in the World Series. But he certainly made his presence felt in his last two starts what kind of poll question. Do you have for me? Mclovin. Okay. On the dodgers. They went all righty again. Are they going to look back after this series over Suming that they don't come back from two and regret their strategy here leaving so many good left handed players on the bench. You know? I'm gonna ask Harold Reynolds about this. But I gotta have Bellinger in there. I do. I do and munchies oh PS is really high. I think it's one of the top five in baseball. I this certain guide, and it goes back to what I was saying yesterday, sometimes manager knows best. And then he'll go, you know, what I got a gut feeling here. I just don't if I have somebody who's good or they're my best player. One of my best players. I gotta get him in the lineup your professional hitter. And is it that are we you know, that analytical that it's left E against left to hear it didn't use to be that way. I think sometimes you go limp turnaround. What's your oh Bellinger? Yeah. You should be in the lineup. I like to certain things where you go. They got these bats not everybody should be in there. You know, jock Petersen. Okay. I'm fine with if you want to sit him lefty on lefty, but Muncie and Bellinger. I mean, they're going to be will be in the lineup because Portillo is going to be pitching game three. So they'll they'll be back in the lineup. But I don't know if you look back. On this and say where we to analytical here. Yes. Mclovin. You know? I wrote down to the poll question. I don't think it's fair to ask. Is it over to nothing? No, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Even if it's three. Oh, no, let's let's not go down that road. And there are going to be a lot of people do this. And then when they do it, you know, you got no chance of winning it's over and they have no chance you'll hear that. And then that use it comes back to haunt you. Yes. Three. Oh, come on. I I'm just saying I'm just saying oh, four three. Oh, gotta be so great. If that happened this year. Finally, it would finally make me feel a little bit better. Yes. Fritzy? Are you big on? It's not a series or the series hasn't the gun until the home team loses. Got a guy. I guess you factor that in all that's happened is Boston. I two home games. Yeah. I mean, I expected Boston to win the first two games. You know, they're they're the better team. They're the favourite. They're at home. You don't expect to get sale and price, you know. Well, price pitch really, well, sailed it on and they still want. I don't know if you can Bank on that that you're gonna get Kershaw again. And he's not going to be great. The last fifteen teams to win games one and two of the World Series went onto win the World Series. So it's our. The last team to lose games one in to the World Series on the road and come back to win the World Series the dodgers against the Yankees in one thousand nine hundred one. That fast. Uh-huh. Stat of the. Stat of the day. Brought to you by continental tire. No matter what you drive where you drive. How you drive? They've got a tire for you. Proud supporter of the Dan Patrick show continental tire dot com. For more details. You know cubs were in trouble a couple years ago when they won they were down three one on the road and came back to win it. It's not over not over, mclovin. All right now. Okay. What else you? Okay. So we also have Ray rat on talk about the raiders. Would you rather have your NFL team be two in fourteen and have a top three pick? Or let's say six and ten and be in a bit of limbo. Well, I just think if you're going to be selling these tickets in these PSL's in, you know, magin if you bought your tickets for the giants and their tanking now or the raiders in their tanking now because they don't give you a discount that you know, they never say, hey, like the seventy Sixers. I always thought if you're going to have a process where you're tanking at least let your fan base in on it. Let them you know, they're going to be part of this. And that means we're not going to charge. You the same prices. We are now when we're winning when we're good when we're going to the Eastern Conference finals or we're going to play for a championship if you're bad than you that that should be reflected in your ticket prices. Now, you can't do that with the raiders now or buffalo, Buffalo's a playoff team last year, and they've nine and seven matching the giants spent all this money saquon Barkley Odell Beckham junior, and then you pay that money now of a sudden, you're trading people, the raiders and remember it sounded crazy when I said. It it what a month ago that. I would really be surprised if Derek cars the quarterback of the raiders by the time, they get to Vegas. Never that sounded crazy now, it seems obvious right? Right. You're going. Yeah. I could see that happening but a month ago when I said, it you guys were like, mclovin goes, man. I can't imagine that they've move on from Derek Carr their car used to be a big thing. Yes. But the raiders are in rebuild mode. But I think John gruden's got to be careful about losing the locker room. I think the Amari Cooper trade. You know, that that ruffled some feathers here is Jon Gruden about. What are the immediate plans of the raiders before the trade deadline on Tuesday? I don't see us making anymore traits. I didn't see us making a trade the other day. I really did. Sometimes like, I said, your plans change, whether you like it or not you don't know who's going to call you what they're going to say you really don't that goes in all phases of life. But I don't see us making anymore traits. But I'll never say never again to anybody. I said never do. I'm sorry. I don't think I did. Well, I think what John is saying is, hey, we didn't call anybody. They called us. Hey, never say, never, okay. So when somebody says all they're not gonna trade, Derek Carr. The raiders are more likely to trade. Derek Carr than the giants are ally. Manning, and you would think that the giants if they could somehow unload Eli Eli got a nutri clones too. But it feels like the raiders they're still open for business. Yeah. Mclovin. Are you hearing anything about a possible? Jags trade we've Blake Bortles are. They are they going to ride it out or well now, I I heard from somebody last night and he didn't have firsthand knowledge. And he said that he said, I don't think you're far off from Jacksonville at least asking about Derek Carr. And I said, okay. But you know, he said, I'll keep you honest. If I feel like there's some momentum there because I was just curious that here we are saying what are the Jags doing? Now. They're in London. But the trade deadline coming up Tuesday. And I thought well does somebody just go. Hey, what would it take to get their car? What would it take? So I think you at least have an exploratory. Conversation there you they may hang up on you or they may go. No, it's going to be two number once Yannick Levin, aren't there all sorts of international calling issues than you gotta put area code. Is that going to cost them the trait is it? Oh one. Yeah. And then the number one one four one one. Yeah. I always had problems with that. Is it a plus sign and then zero one? Yep. Oh, whenever fritzy books, I guess from another country. It's like a there's like a questions going on in the back thing. It's like, you're in Egypt. It's oh one one eight seven two sometimes you've got to gotta edit zero. But in some parts, you leave out the zero it's crazy what? So what do you want to settle on here? Mclovin question. Okay. Is taking a problem for the NFL. We talked about this before the show, I kind of wonder players careers are so short. None of them can afford to give anything less than one hundred percent. I feel like tanking is a little different in the NFL guys are still team so play pretty intensely even when they're wanted sick. Yeah. But you it it's front office tanking. It's not the players on the field tanking. They're trying. It's like, you know, the Marlins with Derek Jeter pay we're not tanking. You're not putting the best possible product on the field. So. Your tanking your players on the field or not the raiders on the field aren't tanking. The front office is in the giants are going to be tanking as well. But we know it's when's the last time we talked about an NFL team and used the word tanking. It's really rare. When we think that somebody is just doesn't care, right. But you know, basketball, we see it all the time. When you're you're you're gonna have that prize possession there in the draft in why not why not tank here makes more sense to you know, Mark Cuban Mark Cuban saying what a couple of months ago, he said, we did everything we could to lose. And he said that last year. I mean, that's an owner thing that but what they did. It was front office tanking. They didn't put a great product on the floor those who are on the four floor played har-. So there is a way of tanking and it has to do with the front office. And that's what the raiders who do. What else? Do you have mclovin? I hate to bring this up now. Now, if you wanna talk about college, athletes and shoes we could do it. Let me let me take a break here. Because once we start on the topic, then everybody's going to have a conversation here, but a former Syracuse recruit who signed with LeBron James's management company signed a shoe deal, a very unique shoe deal and the timing of this. You've got some executives from Dita's who perhaps are going to jail because they were paying players. You know, the trial just ended and they were found guilty. Now, I'm talking about jail. You know, that this isn't like a sports jail where you're not gonna get another job this is jail jail where you're going for paying these kids to be able to go to college while they're in college, you're going to pay them. So Jim boeheim not thrilled. I don't think with LeBron James's management company taking this kid who's you know, instead of going to Syracuse he's going to be an intern at new balance, and he's gonna get a salary two hundred thousand dollars. So it's completely legal here. And he's going to be doing endorsement deal and get ready for the draft here. We'll talk about that coming up eight seven seven three DP show, Email address TPS, Dan, Patrick dot com. Harold Reynolds on loan from the major league baseball network will join us coming up. We'll dissect what we saw last night. Does he agree with the strategy of the dodgers so far during the first two games? He'll join us coming up next fifteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick. Show. Hey, there diehards, here's some football facts. Even you may not know about the first football game was played in eighteen sixty nine and in an average game. The ball is typically and play for only about eleven minutes and finally pizza consumption rates. Go up during the week of a big game. That's not a shocker. Okay. You probably knew that one. Here's another fact, you may not know, and it's actually really useful. 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If you've ever even if you've gone to the batting cage, and you you hit a ball off the end of the bat, and it just vibrates and it's cold weather. Can't imagine that. I'm looking at the numbers within without Cody Bellinger in the starting lineup, you know, the dodgers are different team. And if we're going to do the analytics and look at the numbers here, I'm gonna look at those numbers and say, I think I got gotta have this guy in there because this isn't like one series or two series. This is a full sample size here. And there are a better team with Cody Bellinger in the lineup. He will be in the lineup game three. That's for. Sure. Here is Dave Roberts on having David price on the ropes last night. We had them we had him on the ropes. I thought that early on. We stressed them. We add some situation of bad Scott's. Rangers took our walks and the differences. They got the big hit when they needed. We didn't. That's true with you know, the numbers with two strikes. Really amazing. Let me see if I have the exact numbers. Two outs situations. The Red Sox are seventeen for forty one with runners in scoring position during the postseason. So that you're batting over four hundred with two outs with runners in scoring position. And the Red Sox have scored sixty eight runs in the postseason thirty six of the sixty eight have come with two ounce. So I mentioned herald is going to join us. I went to see a band. Steely Dan last night, they were in New York City and their backup. Singers are called the danettes which they became the danettes a couple years after Reggie Miller. Coined my guys the danettes. I didn't bring this up to anybody last night. I didn't want there to be any litigation to ruin the concert. But I think a message is been clearly sent there to Donald Fagin the lead singer. Steely dan. Yes, mclovin. Which dead. That's are more talented. Oh, well, you know, you're both talented in your own. So like, they have real talent. Yeah. They do. Yeah. They can sing. Yes. Yeah. I've never seen any of these ladies pretty so radio show. I'm not saying they can't not saying they can I haven't seen any of you guys produce a radio show. Okay. Yeah. But you know, steely Dan is so there's so technically sound perfect. You know, the band is great. But I started following them. First time I heard steely Dan was in the mid seventies. And I remember the lot of the guys on the basketball team. So the black players on the basketball team. They were listening to Jefferson starship. I think it was called red octopus. If that was the album and stealing like, they loved steely, Dan, and it has a jazz feel to it. And I've never been in you know, one of my teammates rooms any put on the album. I'm like I like this. And then it was steely, Dan and be able to see them. You know, I know Walter Becker not around he was, you know, one of the founding partners there with Donald Fagan, but there's so many hits in there. So so clean. Yeah. Pulling any celebrity sightings last night. I'm told that Greg career who's going to be on the show is was there last night. I did not. Not see him. But I was told by somebody who saw him that. Greg Kinnear was in the audience last night. But it was good. I'm glad to be able to see I gotta start checking off some of these bands that I haven't seen because I got spoiled early. And then you know, I thank God. I saw Tom petty before he died. I got to see Bob Seger. John Fogerty already saw him. But there's certain artists. Neil. I've never seen. Neil young. Ooh, man. That's a good one. I know never seen him. That's a good one. I saw Crosby Stills Nash. But I did not see Crosby Stills Nash and young. But Neil young is one. I I've gotta see. Yeah. Mclovin. Is Bob Dylan on that. I saw Bob why when he did is slow train coming when he did his his religious album, I saw him. And that's that's when he didn't play any other hits. Like people were yelling out like Rolling Stone. And Bob just kept plowing through all of his the the entire album. How do you guys feel about? That when when a big time artists doesn't play his top top. If I know that he's going to do that do they announce then I'm fine. I knew that steely Dan was gonna play an entire album last night. They went through an entire album. I think Gaucho was the name of it. But I as long as I at least have an idea then. Okay, I'm fine with that. Yes. He I think it's interesting too that when a band is headlining versus opening the difference in their set list or a headliner that, you know, an opening act will just play their hits right through them and get off the stage. But if they were headlining they might not play all their hits they play the songs they wanna play, and it's like a deliberate things sometimes but Dylan didn't care. He just kept playing. And I love the album slow train coming his I love it. So I was okay with it. It was just everybody wanted to hear all his hits. And Bob didn't care. All right. We'll get to phone calls. We settled on the poll question. Mclovin. Yeah. I put up just as start is our teams tanking the NFL. Yes, or no. I fifty one percent say yes teams are tagging right now. There's a website called Tanka Thon dot com. And it's a it's about tanking selling raiders gear. But I was wondering if it's just an NBA site and Seton goes, no, they got hockey in there. They got is baseball football. Yeah. Tank Afon dot com. Let's say the right now the simulated draft order is giants San Francisco. Arizona Oakland Indy. Your top five. Yeah. Tanka phone. Yup. So they have a real time draft order from night tonight. NBA NHL MLB Tanka Thon, doctor Harold Reynolds is part of MLB network's coverage of the World Series, including MLB tonight before and after every game and HR was there at Fenway last night. He joins us now. Good Morning Herald. How are you? What up DP listen to you talking about the artists plan their top hits. Right. Well, the dodgers to me are not planning to top hips. I'd be just points. I don't see into in the lineup. You know, they're not playing all their top players. So they're picking the hits they wanna play and listen to well, I like the segue there. I like the segue there. Thank you for helping me out there. But okay, explain the strategy here when you sit I said if you're going to sit jock Peterson fine. You know, I wouldn't sit in Muncie. And in Bellenger, I can't have two of my better players sitting on the bench and getting one at bat. No. I totally agree. I think what's happening is adult is hall really over the whole process. You know, we watched them do the match up thing. Milwaukee set them down this road felt like they could match up unless show what we can do. And for me to go into an American League game and playing American park with a designated hitter. It just doesn't lend to all the moves you have to make there's no double switches. There's no pitcher coming up there in the lineup with somebody on base and massive pets yet that doesn't come into play. And yet they tried to force that in these last two games in Boston. So as a result, I thought their lineup was totally allocated. They took away the the bulk of their their power like you talk about what months balance, and I thought it just it lessen the ten that we've seen mostly your claim. All right now the series shifts to Los Angeles, you have the National League rules here. How does that change? We're going to see a lot of we're going to see a few left-handed bats in the lineup. I'm guessing tomorrow night in Los Angeles. Yeah. They'll load up the left in a lineup. We'll see dot Peterson. We'll see we'll see Muncie, and they'll be a better team for it. But I think what happens in a National League game. And particularly from a player's standpoint. You know, having played on the bench at the end of my career. You know, one of the things you have to do is start preparing your thinking with the manager. Okay. What am I gonna maybe pension run? Am I gonna pinch hit? Am I going to go into play defense? You also the National League game, basically scripts it out for you. It's easier to script, and that's what the dodger front office likes to do is script out a game. Well, National League you can say Arte pitchers going to be up third in the third inning. Maybe we'll make a switch, and we'll go ahead and just kept to hit then. Okay. That works that doesn't work in their Merican league game. So I think you know, we'll double switch. We'll make. We'll have. We'll take Taylor out. We'll. Put Bellinger and center, and we'll do that in the fifth inning. You know, if things work out properly, it's a lot easier to try to determine outcomes. And so we'll see a lot of that from the dodgers. I think they're more conducive to that. Now, the player I can start to Chesapeake when I might be going in or not. The other day stuff like jump back. But you know, we're tying at one and then ios after the game. And we're asking him about you know, what did you do to get ready for the bat when he hit the three run home. They said, well, I knew I wasn't starting Alyssa told me the day before situation comes up be ready. So he's ready for the situation to face would said, I went down to the tunnel. I watch video all town. I news got doing break-up all every time. He had runs scored addition. That's what did so look for he had three run home. That's the difference in the two teams right now preparation. He's Harold Reynolds. Major league baseball network analyst former gold glove winner. Three time the old love winner. Yes. Yes. Three times. How about that? I know I know three time winner. Can you only had one of them? The station. Now, they'll look the love and tried to hang onto. The you know, what's weird though, you know, you loaned us your gold glove, and it was great to have in. What people have to understand is. It's actually just a baseball mitt then is spray painted gold. Like, it's. Like, it's. I mean, it's cool. But it's it's kind of a cheap, you know award. I mean, it's a great honor herald don't get me wrong. I think the actual trophy. They they they give you is just a glove, and then they get, you know, Russ stolen them, and then they spray pin. Well last night. Ward was was awarded Johnny Atlanta, right down. So let's see the Roberto Clemente where it looks like the Heisman Trophy. Well, I want it back in ninety one that gave me a ball. That was basically they silver bronze too. Come on get a high, isn't it? The Red Sox with two two outs in the you know, this ability they're hitting over four hundred with two ounce. And I I guess I I look at what Cora has done for this team. And what I love and that is put the bat on the ball. Don't try to you don't have to hit home runs. They're not relying on home runs here. And they're put the ball in play. And I I don't know if more teams are going to look at this and go. Oh, jeez. That's it does make more sense than striking out that you put the ball in play. And then things happen. What do you make of this strategy? It's not strategy. I guess, but it's just the ability to you know, put the ball in play with with two outs in runners in scoring position. Well, I I take full loss. That, you know, it's it's it's blending the new analytics and also the old school together. And I think we've gone through numbers and data are always constantly changing. Right. It changes are are thought process of of how we think about things so Alex comes from Houston ASO's who way out there with all the Olympics. But I think they're the first ones sit there and say take a pitch given account and lead league in strikeouts. Then they made the adjustment. We're gonna put the ball in play and they went to World Series. And I think analysts about that here. He had a quote last night. And that he said in the press conference to ten and thirty home runs and seventy Rb is you can't play for the Red Sox that doesn't get it with one hundred ninety five strikeouts. You can't play here. So I think what it's been accepted herald it that's the problem is baseball has accepted this as the new normal. Well, I hate it. I hate it. I know most people. Do the ball's gonna be play. And if you put the ball in play good things are gonna happen strike out. Not just another out you have no production. So I think there's team starting to see it when you have the team leading right? You know to in the World Series. I'm not gonna give it to them yet. Although I think you'll probably win it. And last year winter saying strikeouts is not the way you play. You put the ball in play. Maybe we're going to start to see this turn. And we'll see 'cause we gotta get the game back to putting the ball play. It just. HR safe travels to Los Angeles. We'll check in with you a little bit later on in the series. Thank you. Fran. Appreciate Harold Reynolds. He won three Gold Gloves. Yeah. Fritzy, no, offense or anything. But it's kind of a cheap award. It is like what you mentioned looking at the gold glove looked like cheap award. Yes. It's an amazing honored again. But when we all got it. We were like this is what they give them. Really, didn't you think it was actual gold glove again like it was a gold glove? Like when you tap on it, solid. It was a rust Olim high end restaurant. Yes. Because you could get a glove, and I could spray painted, and I could spray spray thing to baseball's. I think that we could probably construct a gold glove. It was a little more. It had the feel of like a more high end sixth grade art project, it was a little bit more art project that like somebody did that out in the garage. And like, look I made you this award Skippy. Congratulations skin often. Yes phone I feel bad for herald. He won the Roberto Clemente award which used to. Just like this ball. Now, it is it's it's probably bigger than the Heisman Trophy. And it's very similar to. I've got on my screen is gigantic and gorgeous in the past five years seven years. That's what they awarded. She could he he should get one. He's still an award winner. Yeah. But yeah, I remember when we got the gold love and Harold had three of them any in. He loaned it to us for I don't know year. And then he said, hey, I want my goal glove back. It's like when Darius Rucker gave me the Grammy. And then the the folks from the Grammys Saul it on my desk, and they're like who's Grammy. Is that on Dan Patrick's desk, and then somebody said, oh, that's Darius Rucker Hootie and the blowfish. And so they got a hold of Darius and said, you better get that Grammy back, and I'm thinking, why can't I put it on display, isn't it isn't a Darius as Grammy could somehow devalue that it's Patrick. Well, well, it's so so we had to overnight that Darius goes got a semi the Grammy back. I said, no, not happy. I like, I don't know. What's happened? Here. Gotta semi the Grammy back. Yeah. Not happening. No. I mean, serious serious. You gotta sit advanced getting in trouble. And I I'm going you're never seriously. No, you gotta send the Grammy back. I said, okay. Because you know, they the I think he thinks are thought that he might not win another Grammy because they're gonna hold it against him. The boss of the Recording Academy fallen them up. Yeah. And then I, you know, I'm telling two days, I go. You gotta send that it's gotta be there tomorrow. You gotta make sure how much join shirt for I go. I have no a million dollars. I don't know. I don't know what it's worth. Could cost Darius Rucker career. But, but you know, that was that at least had some. No, no. Girth, something it had some feel to it. The the Grammy had some some heft. That's it. And it's not big. But it's solid. I I went girth haft my bed. Thank you. Thank you. Todd. Thank you. I just love. I just love. The way why are you talking to Harold and not intended to Krepon his three goals gloves? You're like, he's not a great accomplishment is just it's really we all thought the same thing when we saw that goal glove. Right. We did. I never thought we were going to say it actually to Harold online. Oh, it's not heralds fault. It's the you know, Rawlings or baseball that they have this cheap award had a child paper misshapen project feel to it with a nice break. Yeah. It did. But what you said cheaper way doesn't everybody kind of get a gold glove at some point that. No, no, no. I didn't I well. They used to hand out those Gold Gloves. I forget which pitcher if felt like every year, they just handed it to this pitcher. And I don't know if it was Jim Kaat. Gymkhana? I think when like fifteen Gold Gloves there. Greg Maddux would always win a gold glove there. Certain remember when Rafael Palmeiro won a gold glove at first base and how many he didn't even play. I think he played twenty games at first base. And I'm thinking how did you hand like how bad or the other first baseman when Rafael Palmeiro plays what twenty five games at first base scooped up? A few bad throws requests. The apparently must have been great in those twenty-five Maddox has the most spray painting gold glove awards in baseball history. His eighteen nineteen Ninety-three two thousand two where do you display those because it's not one of those where you put it up with the Cy Young. And they take a lot of space up. If you have that many, you put them all on one wall. Right. Well, it's if you have eighteen you just make a whole wall out of it. That's what I'd do. Anyway, I would just put one up and I'd store all the other ones. Just one because I say, oh, you got a gold glove. Why have eighteen but I wanted to put the more impressive more than I've got. Yes. Boy. And have on the list of guests that will I want to have in studio sometime. Yeah. I don't think we're ever going to get Greg Maddux. Even small says, you're never gonna get them. I don't know why we haven't gotten Maddix. I think it might be because I've asked former teammates to tell me their Greg Maddux stories all those pranks. Yes. And he's got this wicked sense of humor wicked. But he doesn't do any. I don't think I've seen an interview with him in years years. I don't I don't I think he's he might have been on lebatardshow once. But I I don't remember hearing. I would love to explore that mind, though. Yes. Boeing the last interview I could find for him to thousand fourteen around the baseball hall of fame, and he was on the property doing interviews. But that's probably okay the drill. Yeah. Yeah. We haven't had Matic on. But I I think there's there's a reason for that. I think because I'm always asking Smoltz tell me tell. Me sick. Greg Maddux story. 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But he decided he's a five star recruit he committed to Syracuse changed his mind, and then he was going to go into the G league. So he decided last week. He's not going to go into the G league. Instead he's going to spend the year training and getting ready for the NBA draft. He agreed to a deal with new balance. It's worth a guaranteed one million dollars. So he gets two hundred thousand dollars a year salary, and it could go up to fourteen million dollars with incentives. According to the New York Times now Jim boeheim Syracuse head coach. Said he I guess tweeted this out he said, LeBron did a nice job of helping his client. It's LeBron client. Right question more. Yeah. It is. Yeah. This is what LeBron James has done. And then the bronze he tweeted back all they big mad exclamation point. Exclamation point exclamation point. But then Jim boeheim responded to him on Twitter less than thirty minutes later, saying not me I'm happy for him. I wish him the best Jim behind. Okay. He wishes him. Well, he wishes he would be in the Syracuse lineup is five star recruit. But I wonder if you're able to do this how many players could you do this? Let's say LeBron James in his his management team go why don't you not go to college? We're going to help you with Nike. We're going to get you an internship. That's gonna pay you two hundred thousand dollars you sign with us, and we will have your rights. And so we'll Nike by the time. You get into the NBA. I mean, imagine if LeBron said design Williamson whose projected to be the best player in college basketball this year, he went to do, but he says design Williamson. Hey, don't go to Duke. You don't need to we've seen your highlight reel sign with me with my company my agency, and you're going to get two hundred thousand dollars. So you're gonna make more than the G league. And I'm going to get you endorsement deal with Nike, and you're gonna get my training regimen. I'm going to train you. Yeah. Paulie? I think this is. Absolutely just step one for LeBron and his team. I wouldn't be surprised in five years of LeBron has an IMG academy because who who's going to be a better recruiter, LeBron James or Mike? Chef shefty blaming Duke is a great place to go for one year. But there's no money there. There's you got delay. You gotta think LeBron has guys maybe getting these guys on the cheap because new balance is getting this kid now before he's an the number one draft choice. Yes, it feels like LeBron. His people are in a unique position to do this too. Because not you know, random sports agency can't really pull this off at feel like it. It says a lot about the player when it's LeBron. That's using you not Jimmy Lipper agent. Yeah. I think if you're able to say, I'm gonna train you you're gonna you're gonna have access to everything that I have. And if we set up an academy we set up a camp in Los Angeles. I'm going to be able to see you occasionally, you know, when I don't have a game. I can go over there. You know, he's not going to scrimmage against him. But it feels like you could have a group of five to ten. Ten where Nike is going to benefit from this. Yes. Mclovin. Play devil's advocate. What about the notoriety playing for Duke and being on national TV ESPN because I on Williamson does not need that notoriety. Really? Even the final thing were. No, no, he's he's faming going say the second or third player who's not quite as famous as well. Yeah. There's always going to be the trade off of even if you went to the G league, you're not gonna we. We might show your highlights on sportscenter. But you're going to be you know, you're going to be down the list before you get on sportscenter there. I think with Zion Williamson at Duke. He he's already had his notoriety. He's been famous for five years. I can understand that. If you want to get paid, you don't want to run the risk of getting caught getting paid in college or asking for something. 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#49 The Chartographers: Butch Walker

The Chartographers

56:52 min | 11 months ago

#49 The Chartographers: Butch Walker

"It it is amusing living bog after music and we take every single believe raking all remorse. It's a first season for thank you for joining us. On our journey obscure artists and fungal experiments. And everything. Everything else. And we're wrapping it up. We're not wrapping up before doing something. One of my picks one of my all time Goddamn artists. I'm so fucking exciting for this. You have no idea so you guys on this time doing a guidance. Basically a pop rock polymath Producer who's had giant hits with everyone from Agra Levin to fall. Fall out boy to Antigua swift. He's a huge huge star in the industry and also has managed to carve out an incredible reforms. He's not doing all of that. That's right guys talking about it. The one the lonely the guy who used to be a hair metal bands will forgive him. Anyway that's talking about walking Walker South Gandhi for nasty of Butch Walker born in the heart of Bill Georgia. He initially had a dad who look country music and apparently when he was eight years old on at school brought in a kiss album and he said it was my favorite record before I even heard it and From then on he went on to become part of the hair metal band and put out a song in the nineties. which annoying the only thing about it didn't last in the nineties They still had a minor head toward China. The whole thing broke up and then he foreign power pop group called the marvelous three. They had a small hit off their second album. Called the head. Talbot and is punctuated like takeoff concede. You Freak of the week and it was a great song. That's how I I. I think that was genuinely one of the first ten albums I ever bought legit. And then he's had a solo career by itself and just taking twists and turns. No records are the same guys. That's right we're going to talk about Butch Walker and we're going to rank as doing the ranking. Let me tell you first off. There's me and then that you might know this interview. Every other places hope at the end of the day you know me as the host of this podcast the Butch Walker of podcast. I don't know but more importantly if you anything about this podcast you know the person sitting next to me the black widows to my Butch Walker. That's right the CO creator of the buckets terrible Riley have great it can be a great. I'm really excited about this episode. This was a fun research walls. 'cause the last episode that we recorded with Shelby Lynne which was a little little bit dour sometimes too because she wrote some heavy heavy stuff. I need not that fits walk. Bitch Fits Walker. That's not going to be the last time and do that. Sorry Mr Walker effect. I mean he's written some heavy stuff to But it's there was so much more upbeat. Fun rollicking rock yeah. It's certainly not his Goto. Yeah and I keep hearing that. His live concerts aren't experienced enough themselves does. But I haven't been to see Butch Walker live. You know who has our special guest. WHO's at studio? We connected on which walkers so many many years ago that I think it was like two years later on for the Puck is just GonNa have that like you know floating out there from when the time comes. The time has finally arrived. That's indeed number one which Falker van in the at the time were say correctly. I swear by guys Sarah good good good. Hopefully I think all bets are off at this point. We aren't even weird even form in its end and we've already said it different ways worker or only a year all eight. You should note that studios actually wearing a butch Walker hoodie right now because she is legit and I also found out that her death for her birthday. One time actually painted Butch Walker for you. Yeah for my graduation. Asian stolen picture off my wall because so many pictures all over and for years it was missing. I had no idea and it also. It doesn't seem like the picture doesn't really look like those westside. Yeah Oh boy we paid this. Ah Pirmin so what you see your favorite artists of all time. Yes Okay Ed. I kind of phases with favorite artists. But he's always just Iraq there. Yeah no real question. Oh did you discover Butch Walker. I or did just the three I talk okay. From from the one tree hill soundtrack tape was on it from there on a whole lot of like people that kind of who he is discovered discovered Haberman and from there and then I realized that he produced for all boy and I was like I like this guy. This guy is a cool will be have a lot of knowledge to share share them. We have a lot of fun to have because we're going to be ranking V.. Eight Sola records of which Walker and that includes his berry artless free power pop debut loved himself senator from two thousands too much more emotional state letters from two thousand four. He is Glen Rock costs play. That is the rainfall bourgeoisie. Let's go out tonight from two thousand six. His house burned down sad acoustic album. Sycamore medals from two thousand. Eight is more upbeat. Tom Petty Album. I like better when you had no heart from twenty ten. He is a Russia's ashes rock and roll. Stay out all night drinking album the spade from twenty eleven. His extremely sad extremely acoustic extremely sad album. Freedom goes from plenty fifteen I and kind of his eighty s pop rock affinity records stay gold from twenty six th so you mentioned the house burning down. Don't mention that his dad died that it's just sad. It's just very very a lot of emotions and that will be real anyway. So those are eight records. He's not like a double live album. You should be doing even as a holiday. EP believe which is like great. Everyone has one. I Never GonNa get holiday. These guys. Yeah but also one of the things from podcast. Yeah and it also it felt like the marvelous three as great as they are. It feels like that could be sown like separate thing. I didn't want to add in join those albums against which Walker still the discovery. I feel like it can stand on. Its own so if it could be touched by itself does agreements agreements agreements. Okay we'll see. There was a point. Wait this week where I was like. It feels kind of weird not to be doing the marvelous three aces that felt like such important formative part of his career and then bled directly. Here's all of your literally. There wasn't a gap but then we also have had to these asking. I feel I get that point it out and so given that you've been in like these are the worst one the we'll speaking of guys. That's free eight albums eight slots we're GONNA constantly rank them from worst to first so that means syrup a guess what guess. You're so happy to have you. It's really exciting. And that means you also have another task number eight. We're not just talking about it. We're not you know we can all ginger minds at any point but what would you nominate as the worst which Walker up afraid of God. Yes I feel bad saying because I feel like it's a record he needed to do for our bright but I didn't need it perfectly. You said even like watching documentary talked about how he mentioned that may not be for everyone but he felt like that for him. It was like the most honest. He's ever been on record. That's great but there's some problems number one. I was one of the things like his father and so that obviously they can lease authority. Write songs but the problem with this records that unlike every other Butch Walker L.. This is the one album not produced by Butch Walker is for its produced by now cancelled individual Bryan Adams and the thing about right Adams like back before he was garbage. I actually like some of us like we did. And even this producer. He had a nice stark contrast some stuff that he did. When he works with? Butch it is just like an gray scale all the way through a more than any other which walker album in history every song sounds the Satan or about the same temple or about the same you know passing out yes scale. That is the phrase. I've been trying to think of an haven't been able to who to describe this album is I'd like earlier. I was listening to this on the trade and I was like okay. This is three sons in a row. Now that are the same tempo. They're all just excuse to Qatar with him. Singing Morelli mumbling breath Li like a little too far from the microphone and like the Qatar zones are basically they just flake record the album and then I think in mass just applied for verb to the whole holding him. They were like okay like this. It's really like there are some songs on there where I match. If I'm actually paying attention and listening to lyrics men listening to the melodies and like okay. This is a good song. This is a solid ballad guitar. Solos on this record are actually kind of scorching like it really like. There's some emotion except that every single sound on every single song is produced at the exact same level with Everett on it and so it all just washes together if they had like brought and I know it's a sad album but like some of the Acoustic Guitar and listening to it and I'm like this just means warmth this could be impactful. Fool like this song is really some of the songs are you know obviously sad. He's processing but like the dark for example the last song like that's one that's almost like the hopeful and is still loving even though it's obviously devastating and like that is one specifically rise listening. I was like this should be warmer. There should be an inkling of future and there just isn't fat anywhere on this record and just like it's hard to get through and to your point. I always was like I wonder what which was on. Like he brought someone else in and out of his own head idea. I was like Oh aw and different album with with even not right Adams anymore but someone ferrall could be about now not that either but that could still be really interesting. Yeah I mean he makes really. He's a solid guitar lick writer. He's like obviously his sense of possibilities. Fantastic I love to hear him with like if Jack Jack Antonoff if he worked with a man like he's so cool no it wasn't on any takeaways the everything's just in general this one. I had to like look up the lyrics because cut zoning out and it was like I really want to know what those albums about. I've got to actually like study study instead of just enjoying it so I will say to its credit songs. That like came up on shuffle. And I wasn't mad like I love you and even though it's sort of cheesy with ooh a still going to like it and also Howard things love. I felt like how're things. Love like I almost want to cover it because this production ruin de WanNa hear what it really sounds like bet on fire was like the only one that I really light kind of thing just because it sounded different than you'll break me down. Okay good line kinda brought life into the album for me. Seeing that Song Live live. Sure cool that's that was definitely like the one when I say like Guitar Solos you. That's that in like maybe twenty one are the ones well. Guess what Guys Great Number Eight. Lock it in so I didn't talk about the foreign 'cause I'm always nervous point of life secretly like your favorite album and it wasn't that big said that's great because I love every other album equally so taryn break my heart. What would you not an dister STU? What would you nominate and our number seven slot? This is by the way now that afraid of goes down the way things are going to get a look. Contentious find with. Yeah it's tough. It's between a couple. Okay Chunk here. I think I would go with stay. Gold I always hate when we do that and like list all the most recent albums as the worst ones but like the unfortunately again. There's just there's something that doesn't quite click on this one like I. I'm no Mexican. Coke is unlike a little offensive. Unlike descending like I almost like it sidelined on him to like what it's doing but I just don't quite it's like almost wanna be country pop crossover but it's not country pop enough you know right. It's just kind of a Zahn. Well when I was listening to it straight through. Just WanNa thanks. Initially I had it in my mind. Stay gold was kind of like which is greatest hits like he just kinda covering like an anthem rock and using doing kind of countries balladry like he's kind of touching a love ten plays but really when I sat down with the production which has a lot of Shimmery guitars when especially as some of his Vogel's ritual renewal this. This is the number of dislike this eighties out. But it's not springsteen specifically not Bruce springsteen honestly is kind of Rick Springfield. It's kind of like fucking Jesse's girl type shit like as it's like this like mid tempo like pop rock out from the eighties like production style. Wise which is an interesting direction from the guy who says he never owns a synthesizer. Take them comment on Ludlow expectations a slight interesting. And then it'd be really comes off. Percents goes into the air around easily my favorite song on the record expectation. Yeah yeah stay. Gold is like solid. I can't like spoken-word stuff on east coast girl for me but wake up. It's still like I don't love when he goes spoken-word Yeah I've been a couple of times in his in his discography and every time I'm like it. Also he's such a good vocalist to and it's interesting because I feel like I don't know how it was for US early on hearing him like duly justified stripped boosting. EPLA curious voice sore like all these different autism rock raise just like this guy can do anything. He has rock Vogel Power Bureau Vocal Number One interlude. I've ever put on every Cassini for me of also I also just putting your leads now during the happy hour Minnesota after this Kinda WanNa ask everyone. What is the business they've ever received so just Exact defended but The other thing is that Taryn said something very interesting earlier in the week which was basically he thought that as much as I love still crazy Vogel histor- onyx from the early albums. He said said the. He's matured as a vocalist to the point. He's become an incredible vocalist on some of the back half of his allies. And that's sort of walk that back a little bit because I think he was like like by the time of left of self centered and even on some like. I listened to a couple of the marvelous three tracks just to link at night and I was like okay. Yeah music really solid vocalist. List like you. You don't get that high with that much power without having like solid technique behind you. I think what I liked specifically is that by the time of like I liked it better when you had no heart in the spade. He had sort of dropped that lake late nineties early two thousands power our punk affectation the like the specific ways that he would like pronounce vowels and like Titan in his throat when he's belting sing he sort of let that go and so the sound is just more like open an enjoyable. And that's what I really like about the way that his voice developed and even on the record afraid of ghosts more because The goal of like his vocal takes. I just don't love. The songs is much Gotcha but yeah that was just an interesting thing to sort of notice like. He became less confined by genre as he went for me. Because even when he he pops around between the early records and is like experimenting with different sounds his vocal delivery is still like power bunk right now. It's I know you just nominated here sir. Do you think of this record. I think in my mind and did a lot just because I felt like when I listened to it I was like thank God walkers back after ghost actually stay goals vouchers like very much. What would have been next in line if we skipped over? Ed Yes so I was very a grateful for that and I really really like. Can we just talk about last night and record store and I remember when I got the CD from you the dates have a CD player anywhere. But my car and I sat outside of my apartment all running our listening to this and I was just kind of like not getting super super into it and then the last like the those shoes songs yet at the bottom and I was like okay. I really liked that for you. I really only Oh my God my heart and listen to this. I still very like I just remember that day so well and I'm just like walkers back they would that number seven or would Utah something else. I think that's exactly why I would nominate. I like the I like the feeling it gave gave me. But it wasn't. My favorite song is where the two good ones. I'm totally fine without being in the spot. Okay great I love it. We're making progress for good and pay which we still love. You want to know. There is no denying that whatsoever still really excited for whatever you happen to accept on pain to get excited so they often got you ever go see single Senate number six. I'm just GONNA that'd be that guy. I'm just going to toss it out. There by the nation would be Sycamore Meadows. And the thing is is that I for me were the ones if the story after toilets costs nights and he was renting a house from flee and he just had his old stuff there and then California fires of two thousand seven. I want to say when Doc California fires of you mean literally always on fire. He legit lost everything. When I mean everything it's like everything's ever owned every master that he ever had even talk about all of this buddy and it's just like hey man on the fires were there? Can you go out and get a couple of things out for me. And everybody's like okay. Sure and when he found anybody like recovered a couple the things what he did. No this is in this book that he wrote by his buddy went in the house as it was on fire and grab things for him and like wildlife the heat it was so much that windows were exploding. Like around him and he finds out later. Like if you didn't have the puck and do that shit like twitter life on the line and so it was kind of the thing where he wanted to rebuild apparently even like after that happened Pink Kubicki of his client relationship. He's written songs for her. She appears on some cells drove up to link gave him a guitar. Like like we just like one of the sweetest things like rebuilt. Let's start with this. And so therefore he's finding himself in Singapore meals for me. I don't know why this going into this research. We I always had in my mind. This was a sad out not to go savage. This was just like a low key out going back from like this is actually a lot more upbeat. which was kind of kind of Nice on the one thing? Thinks that. Although there's some good stuff on here no doubt weight of her. I mean it's a Tom. Petty Song is a flat out on the Bogo is very like the way Migra correct. You're right that that courses so hundred percent great things honestly. I don't know how leery you know some people thinking about uh-huh kind of the little casio drumbeat. Pass your place all your car. Thought if you like I really liked to the rest of the record I have ups and downs with it though. It's a good album one book up against the rest of this is just like for me I. This has to be the next lot. I have to talk about Pasta Leon. Okay you in high love that song so much and I realized why it's basically a steely dance. Oh it's like melody deep production like all the fun like little words that come wake I can totally hear. Which one is the vocalist record anyway? Anyway Yeah steely Dan did it episode. Every I'm thoroughly Donald Fagan there and I was just like a pleasantly surprised. I wasn't expecting that type of sound from him at all and I also was surprisingly Kinda dig ships in a bottle. Oh I don't always. I always love his ballots. I mean obviously. We put afraid of ghosts in general like it. I definitely think that his his pop songwriting strawberry than his ballad song. Or maybe it's his delivery. I don't know but anyway. Yeah she's in about surprise me in that sense but other than that like I'm definitely not mad at this ranking. Oh Wow okay. In general possibly on his life probably talk which Walker songs but then other than that. I don't know that this album has like a lot of steam. Our what's weird for me is randomly and all the time place saw your car thought of new housing. My head is not even one of my favorite song. But it's always in my brain and I ages start singing it out of nowhere and I don't know why because you pass their place but I think generally my next kind of tier that had of of records records. I had this one and left of center on and not only because I think all the other ones are just better saturn month as I disliked these any way but if somebody asked me what Bush records should I listen to. Those two are the ones. I'm not can recommend interest. So that's kind of why I had them interchangeably coast and so I also agree with okay. Also hello I'm mad at the Atlanta's yes because it was so it's felt so honest and like I'm just wrong and then I found out like it was all like it wasn't his life you've singing out and so I kind of felt line to like I have no right to be like that you still now. This August is slightly different from me and I love it. I just not as I hate to break. Bactheatre here comes the heartache. The move out date excuses for my friends. I gotta even doing any other Favorites on here before we send it away number six. Oh three kids in Brooklyn. I don't really hate anything on this album. Okay Okay I love it. I love the problem for mating. Okay single mothers. You were here at number six. Which leaves center letters the rise and fall two nights later but when you had no heart and the spade okay now fincher getting a little bit tight but from the sound of it you are ready to nominate left themselves Senate at number five okay? Let's talk about this record do because I'll like honestly even letters even anything else like everything else. It is a pure radio pop record. It truly truly is. It's fun and exuberant and carefree. And the thing is that this is the album that ended up getting a lot of production gigs to because the marvelous three produce stuff himself. But this record especially there's so many like weird little intricacies like even at the end of my way way does Likud number and it's just like flying off the strange like incredible guitar playing just him like he adds these sweet little fun jokes in elements of records like exciting and I love it is. Is it his best record. Now do I have a big nostalgic fondness more because it was only discovered him after the marvelous three still doing this stuff absolutely. I have no doubt doubt about that. Go I don't know if nostalgic articles is the right word for the my feelings for this record but it kind of is because because it is so much to sounds like Jimmy world it sounds like early follow boy. It sounds sounds like and so because of that. Even though I hadn't really listened to before this week immediately just like really acted with me. I really want to like in trouble but the lyrics are so stupid literally wrote down this sound better than the the whole album unlock. The trial will just so basic every terrorism although blown my mind Charon head of fucking top five. Yeah Oh sorry go ahead so immediately after that is Alicia Amnesia which is like exactly exactly what I want from this era of rock like exactly like the the verses are just like I've never I heard the song before but they're still nostalgic for me and then the way he just hits those vocal harmonies on the chorus and then it has the like the production at the end. Like it's just the course again. But then it goes into like almost like a Conga drums situation and then there's like some sense happening in the background and I just I really really tailgate. I sent it to my sister-in-law at like midnight. Last night she loved it like I just. It's just really really liked that song. I've listened to it like eight times this week. Okay so I'm definitely would fight you a little bit on putting this one quite mild head. So what would you Lupu. I would probably put waters. Oh Wow okay I the senator we could talk about letters okay. Let's let's talk a little more about left. So what are your takeaways of this. I feel like the the rise and fall of Butch Walker and the let's go. Tonight's is just like the evolution from left of self centered and I like it better on. It's like very similar in my mind. yeah just how it makes me feel an listening to so I think that lots of south center just it didn't hit that bar that the other one did but of course like suburbia onerous younger was like my jail. I was like someone under Strahan's the hands in my way is funny like that. Sounds like something my mom would listen to you now and I think I think this is one of those long. She likes from budge. Hello I'm surprised I liked it so much when I was younger but yeah I think many same thing like I like it but the I don't know it's not my favorite. It's again I still have such even though I kind of realized this week. That far away from close is basically a rewrite of Fuckin- jaded by aerosmith one. Can you turn on the flip side a little less sixteen candles a little more touch me by follow. Boy is basically just a rewrite of my way. Like pretty. Don't like pretty close. It's not subtle and then they just for the course of that. They just took the bridge from comfortably numb. I also take time to focus on together. And then he heard it cure lovey produce. I also really cringe at Rockville power. I can I mean I don't listen to it but I think it's funny I cringe out it and also then the end of trouble. They're they're introducing like a stripper just like feeling cheapening the record on all day so I don't know okay okay. I'm just as interested in during his. This'll be justified and stripped. Goosey over talking about he closes with take one day at a time and he says that he feels like he never got the song in studio the where he wanted it so he is he just goes out to the crowd and since the light with them which is like the coup stick on Mike. Okay if Jenny Song to You know even those like kind of like obvious emotion so good I kinda get down which sounds like a vampire fights over overall. It's not a perfect video to a little less sixteen candles. Were trying to get off on the more we talk about it the more I actually realized. Let's they'll center as much as I do. Enjoy it and I do enjoy it make mistake I probably would be okay with letting it down there but I guess we also need to actually before that Kimmy lock in the center. I'm not mad. Yeah yeah at that okay. But it's not my order order but it's not like way off. He's an okay. Well now we need to apparently breakout the fucking boxing gloves. Because after number eighty goes number seven state golden we're six miles number. Filing sel centered Taranto Riley. Little album called ladder survey h which I believe is when just doesn't like hit with me like any of the ones that are left. Do I just like Sunny Day. Real estate is is is a really nice opener and then I think it's the sort of thing where like I think that if I had heard this album in two thousand four or even two thousand eight I would feel differently differently but at this point I just like unauthorized it. It's A. I like uncomfortably numb. I think that's a really solid track much. Actually I think promises a beautiful song it's again it's a balance like it's fine By don't move. Don't move the solid. Okay what are you sound like you have to say. Tell me tell me about so definitely my talk to and I was listening to it. I was just like in my car yelling letter letters. I just love with again. Maybe it's just me love earlier how I found from mixed sake in contract on a great song to this day. I thought it'd be more did than it is. But there's always that breakdown talked about. You know the kid from back to the a day from the back of the glass that you thought was gay. Just like you have been there but it's just like honestly the emotion of it's still holds up and honestly even online like even the bad songs ain't so bad like Oh damn that's such a good puck of mine Yeah and then Joan it just pulls at your heart strings things and I just it makes me feel more than other songs. You know And I think he says that that's the one he kinda wanted to put out there to prove that he could be a serious songwriter writer which he Kinda marvelously zero love song is a great song. But it's called ready go. I remember very specifically that album. which was the last a hair metal pastiche parody but they weren't popular enough for people to like clue on the jokes? I remember specifically that opening week. It debuted viewed on the billboard charts at number one hundred ninety nine on the billboard. Two hundred I wrote down to what afraid afraid of ghosts. Was it peaked at one hundred four on the US billboard chart okay why. US like like how did it get there. Yeah because it was the hottest thing he's ever had. I think maybe a connection. Maybe maybe the randoms connection also as people stop stop buying albums it becomes easier and easier for like knee autists to chart at because like okay. He has ten thousand devoted fans who actually bought the record and that her you know and like especially if it was you know we want to support him after this difficult time because his fans attention to what's going on in his life breath that's my guess. Maybe they didn't know what it sounded like when they first record and for years and also I what about I looked at this story today is what does he have on violent because we've been having some great by all parties recently and the only fucking I'll be has able vinyls Brita goes. I'm so mad. The elderly can put a stain on vinyl. Yeah I also have He had like a record store day early. So got don't asked that by then a minute worry okay. Well I will say that I very much enjoy letters to do It's one of the things where it's not going to be my number one personally whatsoever but the thing is I still like this. Is that fine line of like him. As a maturing songwriter it's still with with consumerism production. Because don't move just has kind of a different leg of the Lupino injury but still very radio. At the time I will fully admit that and it sounds like my number one summer summer. Jam Don't like blow me away per se. But there's still a lot of fun that I have on here was just great for me. Especially after a joint self-centered as much as I did to hear letters and be like this. This is a completely different song writer. Feels like the same place but it's clear that he's not going to do the same. been twice. I've very much enjoyed that. That's maybe part of why didn't love it as much because I liked left of left of self centered and I loved. Let's go out to mates so much that sandwiched between this. Was this like very yeah different and album and so just like wasn't the mood. I was in every time I got to it. Feels like they should be switched. I like just in his discography debut or later on as he's getting older and lost it definitely feels like lots of south center should've followed by rise and fall of Scott Saxony. Okay well this is exciting and things that like I would say letters is still isolate. I think it's another goggle. Things were very much very much enjoy. I realize this week that songwriting wise. There's a couple things that are out there. I remember getting this life force on live EP. That he did that. He put a digitally recorded off the Internet and hit version of state line on there is just incredible surprise at the end. Yeah like if you have that because there's a bonus track off a fucking sin. We're medicine just like whatever but the thing I enjoy but even talking about it now just okay. Yeah no way these other three up again. So I'm like wait. Rollier is good bad. It's just you know really walking. Let's just I want to put. It will test their experiment. If you will Sarah out of curiosity what would you nominate number. Four in the hockey now braying. Hang on. Okay I need a recap okay. So what's what's left is letters cutters the rise and fall of Butch Walker in the. Let's go out. Tonight's I liked it better when you had no heart at the speed for the record these are all the top four and and revolted in fairly good agreement up to this point so like. It's it's getting tighter now and I would say really listen all these houses a couple of them that are just I. I wasn't sure I really going to enjoy them as much into research and I'm just like no. No this is like this is like solved. This fade okay. Okay Okay Okay Okay okay reading it down into it because like this is like getting tough I'm more than happy to talk about the spade. Now I'd like to see when he had no heart that's that's when he really forms his band at the widows and it's a very important too because this is really when he began having Co songwriters on his solo records to and he used the he's got the guys together for this and they did this and the spade together it's Bush credits which walk around the black widows. So it's very much real estate isn't it. I mean it's not but they still. It'll has songwriting credits off the record and then playing it to the mostly. He just did that because he didn't want to tour with him again right also to I love yes and no one would think it was weird. But it's just great because I remember when The old ninety seven's candidate country towel punk band back in the day late. They put up a lot of records. Frank Miller was it was weird shit and then at one point it got to the put out a record like a couple of years ago which is very broad rowdy and loved him and just like you guys are like in your forty. You can't do a so long about hooking up with a fan or something just like fuck we just did it. And it became one of the most acclaimed highest reading records in a long time because they just kind of had that spark again and this just one of the things. We're like greeting about the space. That this Butch Walker fucking let loose this him like just having even some of the songs like. I'm not even like crazy about the overall like synthesizers. Great fucking Song it really is. I know why question is a single is hard to say. Even though this time it'd become falls in love with the sound of an accordion in which should are showing up across all of his point onward odd. But it's really really good on no. He's also sweethearts Gami this week. Also or just having his background vocals is a really really sweet. I don't know there's just something about me I also I know that it's like normally nothing new at all but I loved Dublin Crow Nine. It's look league literally. It's just a folk song like I don't know I like it. I like how they executed yet just because like him even summer of eighty nine like him obviously see doing revolt Bryan Adams famous Sixty nine like it's just it's fun it's Russia's donate blood is honestly really not my favorite opener of his record wave life but I love soccer pumps the Jan rowdy soccer I get why reflect the whole term slave Comedown shut up selling flakes like you literally the song embodiment of like that annoying guy. The bar point which is why they need to take a stake. I get that I get that I think in general this album just like a nice. If I'm like just around the House worked to put on I know I like it but it just doesn't really stick out as much really okay. Yeah I like every single buddy else I wanNA has some fun parts to it yet. God I'd I never thought about this but I actually might be like this. Might we down to the state and letters for me honestly at this point like it's getting is definitely the that I yeah. Yeah okay I mean we'll okay did. Here's here's acid group. I've used that we all have to at some point or another. Maybe but I would be fine with putting the state at number four but for me. I can't have letters go any higher than that personally. That's just me. I just at that point exactly. I willing leads to do that. Would you be willing to go on the train. Go speed for letters really sure. Okay yeah I mean I sort of had lake nick letters and the spade in an national together so okay. That's fine. Don't get cool. Is there any other things you want to talk about an either one of those records. Sorry letters man. I was looking at it like lights out. Best thing you never had race cars and Goth Rock for some reason I I love that line and get up and watch Angelo's on this album to okay. You just reminded me of a point that I thought of multiple. We'll times this week which is like if I can't listen to another sign about how much. La Sucks like. I'm sorry. Like deers every fucking songwriter. Every that's true like I get it you're not from La you move to La People in La Rude. We have fucking get it like I. Just I'm I'm so like disinterested with that thing at this point because it's been done since like the mid seventy s literally at you over it. Anyway sorry the lights out in your heart rate disagree okay. We'll guys guess what that means. We have afraid of ghosts. We have stayed at eight seven. Sic more metal six lessons senator five spayed at four letters three which means the two albums left all the walking. Let's go out tonight so longest title. Yeah exactly what we're seeing Walker. Is that the title of your next album really law and then it'll be really good. It's like a follow up boy. I'm tied action. Ah For me for me number to at least my nomination for number two has to be. I like to bend any had no heart which I didn't realize what I interviewed him. He broke that semi he broke the Song Tale of liquidity in the piece before it even was announced like the actual song title. I asked him like you guys are. We're going in records again. What's it going to be called? We're working on it but I think it's going to be gone what he had two heart because it's true That's just like God a day and a means it yeah. I think they can't remember the publication because I had it in the Finnish remember announced it came out where the piece was. It was like I had. That shit was so excited. I bet you could factor that. I'd do that right now. Taking the the archives in Wikipedia say I liked it better when you had no heart. I remember liking it a lot in this week. It really drove home. How good of a record is is because one of the things where trash nate? It's again petty esque as kind of wait for asking the sandwich. Unlike other pennies on the intro. Okay that's fine but so many great fucking songs on here. There's some weaker moments and fully amendment. That's blooming my biggest thing said it doesn't have like great parts Alabi good until the belt he wrote for his son. I just I like some favorite Bolivia knowing that it's four his unlike listening to this cuny. I like if my dad wrote that song for me I would love it. You know what I mean like. It's a it's like a relief. It's a nice is tricky. Yeah but I also have heard enough to the point where these bother writing a song for his son Trope is kind of like even timberlake did offer man of the woods inflate let's bring timberlake into this solely wastewater timberlake. Where do you guys want to start art? Because there's a lot of places he just gets so goofy on this one. Two surprise stripped down version the backup vocals due to like it's like weird like penn of Lake Orchestra Sola musical flares have with someone. Okay which is good obviously for me the biggest one another stage staple and they pleaded for seventy fucking people but She likes hair bands and really look back early on. But also it's so dumb like I think about it. The way those wants coming on the chorus just like the backing vocals is just the whole experience. They feel like he's like mocking himself but in a good way I don't know how to describe. I love it because it's also. She likes hair bands on the satellite radio. Which of course these days like that makes sense like it's modern them also research at the same time I think there's a theme with him up just like kind of making fun of the current state of things? Whether it's like. The ED mentioned on pitchfork could people naming their vans after animal across the board. That's just the theme. He has so nice. You didn't lose it anywhere. Absolutely this record really really. Do I think pretty melody isn't like fantastic or anything. But it's like a really just solid way to into like these into the album weird radio too. I don't you think someone should take you home. That's like easily his best ballot for me. I just an enormous soccer for harmony vocals. I do really think that like having multiple people in the studio with him really helped the formation of the song and this I mean just in general it's just like really like I love stripped down version. That's the one that sounds like a fucking like seventy soft rock bretheren the chorus with all those like those like gooey. Vogel's Canadian Tatton is even like again. Not My favorite but I just I really like sulfuric of it like I think it's just funny and then you shed like this whole record tomorrow. Title is really good. They don't know what we know is solid. I will say AH dates. Months years is like a really toxic. Impala Matic be kinky talks about some shit in there and I'm like Oh only frequent right that dude Bush. Where where do you sit and all does the same thing? Just it makes me feel. I feel like he's not sad which we get sandwich. Five sad nice the titles. Yeah I just. I don't know I house of cards is like in my brain when I listened to it. It just kind of has gone through these little ups and downs. And it's fun. Yeah Hi it's almost. Like he took the rock experiments out of Sycamore medals and decided to make a whole album out of of it. which is kind of how I feel? There's less less Europe. SACCHARIN NECE on it which I mean aside from a- till then but like it's just a different beast altogether and also is the record where he really falls in love with orchestrations to which is like a nice nice change for him but she doesn't really revisit ever but this is the most stream sessions he gets also rise and fall. It's just like I mean. I'm always a muff where you put fucking strings and horns on a track and I'm GonNa be there like that happened a lot out here and to great benefit retirement he really knows how to produce them to. which is it's it's such a like a thing that so many people don't even think about like not only are the horns on for like how do they sound like what microphone? Did they use a huge difference. I also just think all these songs sound really good together on the album. There's none that I like really weird and it's it's just as nice little package. He gave us and and wrapped up nicely pass. Replace Your car like that. Feels a little bit out of place signals and like it because this week in the texture side. Ah Yes definitely can awful so I get that but also for me. How any of the record aside from the rise and fall of Butch Walker and the? Let's go out tonight. It's not number fucking one because guys I tell you about this fucking album. It is a Glam rock album and he just plays the fodder to a hill. Had good hot girls in good moves. Baby has ever done fine. The background she sings James. Love the words to hear track that and every time she said things have been like I know he wrote a song about using your brain your the news which Walker Clutch Commander. He likes to make fun of not making fun of ood. But even going into it like there's some some even if they're not asked me even Betham Beth amine pretty pretty like it's still a solid ask and especially that that ooh like just like kind of vibe that he gets on there vis full thing. She calls excuses. Yeah there's a real bruins from ball there's a couple couple times where he uses. He uses elements in his songwriting. That almost feel like early pre experimentation Beatles like that sort of flake early early sixty s era of pop. Words like. It's very just like you know like a solid verse Catchy Chorus and all he did was was like at a rock guitar instead of like strumming. Do you know what I mean. The ad like an effective this record be it fits seven these clemmie Moodie because of drum sound there because every time you hear dramas that is then echo-sounding locals are like strain electric light the orchestra. Yeah it's where. Where else do you want to be? There are some moments that don't sit as well for me. We're all coming down. Probably is probably my least favorite song on here. which isn't isn't really saying much? Cause when he goes a little bit country with rich people die unhappy and therefore yet the fucking closing set of balance are like fucking on point. This this is the sweetest little song and then when Kenyan anyhow I even know like yes. That one's slow isn't even really about. It feels more like a hate you. That's fun live all like Crowley I'm sure in completely. Yeah Yeah. That's that's one thing stadium single right now this purple rain more than it is a ballad bath bringing someone they love it when it uh-huh personality of like this is just Noah and you feel like this. I can repeat this as many times as I want. You will get along to just perfectly discovered there. It's just like Soviet even domino's Safa Piano Ballad like a perfect halfway point interlude till they set up break up the tension from all the Raleigh News along it goes straight from that into paid. We did get excited. Which one of my favorites from four short short that chorus is just so like blistering and laws home? I've really tried to go into this listening to these and not singing long. Soak in the lear. That was the first time I was listening and instead of just singing and this was the hardest law not sing along. All record in a guy with a chorus is like Corky as it is like oh I get. It doesn't have a course like pink in the background singing law. I'll why it was never on the credits with a record problem. So just hearing her. Just like candlelight magic game and doing her own history okay. I'm GonNa say I had a different perspective because obviously I was expecting while listening so every time she popped up was like. Oh Yeah. I wouldn't mind album from them. Oh my God awed girl at this point like a four track capital. Oh gimme forgive me please. It's just like even Colbert. Death is clearly his best record too. Because I feel like also this is like the most cost play because like in terms of like letters he was like kind of doing like I don't want to say mo in a derogatory way but like you know emotional pop. songwriting certain degree and even Sycamore Meadows. He's still going to figuring himself about. The state. Has such a strong identity in terms of like rowdy boys being rowdy unlike afraid of which eat as much as it's a sad way doesn't really have an identity. He has just for the record. And for the biggest for me though thing about Let's go out tonight. It's it is clearly used aiming from the seventies he's aiming the sound and the style and he's playing putting his own songwriting writing into it. He's mixing it up and it just feels cohesive in a way that almost none of his albums do either left of self centered is of very specific ilk in the very specific sound. But it doesn't have that same. songwriting consistency that he has on his record. which is why is still like blows my mind that he made this and then went on the rest of his career the way that he did? Allah just feels like all large degree for me. This I mean like I said a million times. This and letters are my favorite. And when I'm suggesting Butch Walker to somebody I you suggest these based on if I think they want box or if I think they want like emotional like pull at your heart Sh- music and so this is just like a bop up to me that he he. Reinvented the wheel. Expose people say it's a Bob to talking about a song here whole album Bob. Who's ever fucking done that? Before for Bob Album Boban on that is there for the arena agreement that that is number one. Yeah Yeah Okay. Yeah in that case guys I think we need to go go ahead and do the lock in segment sponsored by tied. That's your tail number afraid of ghosts number for seven stay gold silver medals number five of senator number four the spade number three letters that are too I liked it better when you had no heart and of course number one that hey of by by the marvelous three guys Lawrenceville. Let's go tonight's but guys you still have to talk about when talking about is worse on. We need to talk about seeing him. Live which is the very distinguished various. Sarah has add top interviewing him about all the other songs that he released for Sony other artists. So many Goddamn things in the meantime though Sarah. Aw thank you so much for having me. I'm so glad you're here for this. 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Bonus Ep. - Rian Johnson goes deep on 'Knives Out'

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Bonus Ep. - Rian Johnson goes deep on 'Knives Out'

"I'm detected Elliott this is trooper wagner. We just want to ask a few questions. Wednesday night of his demise is the family gathered to celebrate. Your father's eighty fifth birthday was the party pre. My Dad's death was great. Ladies and gentlemen I would like to request that you all stayed until the investigation is completed. What can we ask why something changed so no it hasn't changed or no? We can ask though. I think one of his famous squalls suggesting enough question enough into one another appear ask very nice back in your shit shit shit smile definitely each ship. Hello everyone and welcome to a special bonus episode of the slash film cast. I'm David Chen. I'm here today with Jeff. Jeff are you doing. I'm doing very well. How are you Sorry you get sick. Well thanks thanks for back. The benches back. Thanks in joining us today. Ryan Johnson has directed film as I say thank you Ryan Johnson has written and directed films brick. The brothers Bloom looper. The last Jedi has newsfeed knives out is in theaters right now. Ron Johnson. Welcome back this is from Kosei doing today David. And thank you for having me guys. Ten a long untitled so sad. When I opened my skype? It has like a little thing at said you less chaired to David Chen a year. Yeah that's too long long. I agree more often right. Also I just WanNa say go they do this while playing. I I had A in my mind in my eh D- Ryan is holding the Banjo up to his ear. Buds to make sure I like also have the Banjo is like headlights to a dear for you. Can you freeze. How do I handle this situation? I had a listener talked to me recently and they said Hey so I heard Ryan Johnston appear on the the big picture podcast and I was shocked that he was extremely gracious to the host. There we're at the interrupt. Didn't play Banjo. Never heard you the context of talking to me on complete got I love and respect those guys I I feel comfortable with you David. It's like we're family indeed indeed. Well we appreciate you joining Ryan. I know you have a lot of options for you. You can talk to these days uh-huh but let's dive into the film. We have a lot to talk about with regards to knives out. We're going to talk about some general questions. And then dive into specific spoiler reply points we will denote to win. The spoilers begin to be very clear for listeners. Who Haven't seen the film But I guess I wanted to start by asking you. You've so you've made a film. That grossed grossed over a billion dollars which is not something. A lot of people on this planet can clean has done and How did you go from that to deciding citing To make a mid budget murder mystery which by the way is not a film. That's easy to get made these days. Let alone released like what was was the thought process the journey there. Well Well David. I was sitting in my tub filled with my billion dollars and just kind of gazing into the no. I can't look I came came asked hours and I had had this like incredible rich beautiful amazing you know experienced doing the star wars movie But it had had been a four year process soup to nuts so either making one movie for four years and so part of it was thinking what can i. What do I kind to have in a state where I can sit down and do it quickly? Felt like it'd be fun to just put something out really quick and and I had been thinking about this idea for about ten years so So I had kind of the bones of it And I sat down my producer. Ron Bergman we can't told him all right well maybe it's time to do the murder mystery and he said Yeah. Let's do it so so I started reading. It happened really really fast. I mean the. It's weird because I would love to have a narrative like a story are- worst story that fits him with of how hard it is to get. These kinds of movies made. This thing came together so quickly and so relatively easily it made our had spent I started writing January of last year of two thousand eighteen and we had rap rap. The movie by Christmas It it all just came to a big part of that was getting Daniel Craig to sign up for it so that helped but But yeah man it. It was actually like an incredibly quick process. Once we start gun when you say there was it was percolating in your head for ten years. It feels like a movie from someone. WHO's a fan? Dan of this genre of the sort of parlor murder mystery is is something that came easily. Because of the amount of time you've been thinking about it. Yeah Yeah Yeah it was. Well I mean sort of I don't know no I can't say still because I had like the basic shape of it and also Jeff. That was a great. That was a great question. It's nice to get good question with that. That's why I'm here. That's a good cop bad cop thing. I'm just saying it's nice. Send making a comparison contrast nice thoughtful question. Though I had the basic shape of it I had basically this idea the That okay we could do a WHO done it. Kind of turns into a hitchcock thriller the turns back into a WHO done it at the end and I had kind of the very basic kind of plot shape shape of it but But still when you sit down to actually work out how to put it together it was it was. It was not an easy process. It was yeah it was quick but it was. It was really intense I've heard recently. Somebody told me the egg Christie and made a point of reading her books really quickly which I think is real Tristan. I don't WanNa talk about like Agatha Christie's tropes a little bit later on when we can get into spoiler but I wanna ask you about the cast because you said the cast came together her pretty quickly. Obviously and Daniel. Craig was a key. Part of it I mean your best is a murderer's row of high profile talent. Jeff do you have ebony questions about the cast I do. Actually I have a really you know I. It isn't because go ahead. Go ahead I I want to know about. You know something like like I look at Michael Shannon's character and you know he has this Cain and we never find out about why has this is that an affectation that is in the script that you bring to the table or something like that. Yeah well that's an interesting thing example. Because there is we didn't cut much out of the movie but there are two very very good scenes that we cut out in the movie for pacing reasons. One one of them is the one that explains why he has the Brooklyn and McCain and when we put the home video will include them as extras those scenes. They're very good but But no that was. That was something where it was. It was actually. It's kind of a vestige of a previous plot point that we kinda stripped out along the way you said the Democrats question you said Daniel Craig was gonna key to to getting this movie made. Can you talk a little bit about like how you pitched pitch them on the film and and how he came aboard the project. Yeah I don't know we just can't send them the script and he he had the bond movie pushed like three months so he suddenly had a window but now and then we sent him the script and Yeah he was into. It happened really really quick. When we sent him the script it was crazy and Before I knew it I was meeting with him and then he said yes and then from the moment he said yes. We had basically basically three weeks Dr six weeks to put the whole movie together to prep it to get the rest of the cast and we had to start shooting at six weeks so But but I think I mean I think that Daniel. He's such a good actor he's got such range and I think he is so good playing Ling Barnes that a lot of people that's like shape their perception of him And he's like fun at Madame few times over over the years he is really fun. Man is really funny and So he is. He's a lot like jeff you know. He's got the sense of fun into any conversation. Even the most more abundant conversation for one cannot wait to see the continuing adventures of Benoit Blank in rifling rivaling. Those of James Bond himself dairy said into we almost we almost got really cheeky. I was like should we put just in text at the end of the crawl. Benoi blog will return. I decided not to tempt the fates. 'CAUSE WE ED flopped. Been Hilary Benn. Leblanc is inspired by IRC. You'll perot from the Agatha Christie universe. The famed extremely talented Belgium detective but then in the film. He's a southern gentleman. I'm just curious. Where did the inspiration for that version? Asian of that character come from well he I started thinking probably too much about Poro And I started kind of from the Berry on useful useful class. Of How do I make my own Coiro. And that was a bad place to start because I just kind of threw all these stupid quirks at the character And and like he had like an eye patch at one point. I might got different busy. Like were different glasses every time we see that and there was just like. Oh this this this is terrible so I so i. So I threw out with occurs through various straightforward and just gave him a southern accents figuring that that would make him a fish out of water amongst the rich New England family And then yeah. When we tired Daniel I just? Can't we figured figured out what the southern accent would be because as you know. There's lots of southern accents and kind of landed on a shelby foote style Mississippi drawl because at it sounded pleasant and wanted to be a pleasant accent to listen to Yeah and kind of kind of found kind of said okay. I read the character pretty straightforward and then ever place him we'll find the nuance in there of how to really bring him to life. There's a question in the chat room rebroadcast and live right now. from 'em Scott. Not Phillips. Who Asks is Ben? Well blunk name for Mel Blanc. Who is the actual voice of foghorn? leghorn that's a great connection. No no I never know I bet while block is a I mean Ben Wa was A. Isn't French tutor. That I had and I really liked the name Ben Wa and then Broncos just trying to think the last name that Americans could mispronounce Like borrow but that's a great connection I never even thought of that Actually use it for now and pretend that was your plan all along. I think well I did. I mean there is like some other clever naming the move I because I had so many characters near the system to remember the names and so so I named all of the family after seventies rockstars And cuddle is a Richard and Linda are richer and Linda Thompson Walk Walk Waltz. And Donna are Walter Donald Fagan and Walter Becker steely Dan and then Joni is Joni ending Mitchell in her. Dead husband is Neil. WHO's Neil Young? So man that's awesome at that In ransom is pulled from CS. Lewis books that I really love is Sifi trilogy. The name main characters ransom. I always thought that was a very cool him so Knives out is a Close circle mystery. And I think there's like rules that you need to have to have a close circle mystery like one of them being that the actual actual perpetrator needs to be somebody that you like introduce you know in the course of the film not like it was the gardener. That did it at the end that you you don't know it is and there's other sort sort of structural components to another one being like basically like you need to have all the evidence you need in order to solve the crime during the course of the film theoretically I assume that it was like important to you. And that seems very difficult to structure and talk about like. Did you start with like this is going to be a solution and work your way back from that or like how did did you structure of the mystery yourself. Yeah so I mean I think that even more than this notion that I don't know like I think the idea that the audience has is all the stuff that they need to solve it. Is I guess. A little I don't know there's kind of two ways of approaching story very like this. One is in the notion that you're giving the audience a crossword puzzle that solvable and the other which is actually the way that I kind of approach. It from is really thinking being event terms of a of a narrative experience for the audience and thinking of in terms of what is satisfying in terms of watching a movie and really. What's USC satisfying is not the sense? That you could solve it. Although I guess technically you could but maybe some people did I don't know but but what's Satisfying is that at the ends. Every single payoff is something that you recognize. It's almost like a recognition game and so in that big explanation explanation that the ends every single thing he lays out is something we can flash back to show that we did set up and there's something very satisfying about that So I was thinking more about that and less about. How do I build this thing? Where the audience you know has a chance of like solving it? You know so I don't know if that makes sense distinction but in terms of I kept saying it's a roller coaster. Ride not a crossword puzzle. Seems like a movie movie that you know we talk about Ben while blunk in comparison to Perot. I haven't I don't know all the Perot mysteries but I can't think of one where I'm rooting rooting against Piero. It's an interesting thing in this movie where I'm rooting against belong to solve the sly and that gets on the we should. We should save this for the spoiler section. Because that's real. That's a really fun thing that that was something that got me very very excited once I landed on the way to kind of make it to do exactly what you're saying but Yeah let's talk about that when we get into. If you haven't seen the movie at Go Watch the movie and come back. Spoilers spoiler in a bit. I just have one last question for you. Actually before we get the spoilers which is that like you posted this image on your twitter recently of all these movies that are right right now and like how knives out is out along with Bongino host parasite and those movies are both like pretty thematically equi similar in my opinion or they have some similarities and Just wanted you to riff on Paris. Which is guessing movie you've seen already and I love to hear filmmakers talk about other films? They love and so curious like what your thoughts were on parasite and and And whether you found any connections to your movie I mean and I think parasites a masterwork things credible mandates so It also it It has the thing that like is one of my favorite things movie can do where it constantly feels like. It's about to go off the rails and then it lands the plane at the end of it in away is so ties everything together and makes the whole thing feels so cokie so sorry to bother you as a similar experience in a weird way. None from a Parasite good so that when the party scene happens at the end it just feels like Oh my God this is this is what what is even happening. And then when it gets gets to the actual ending it's just like Oh my God you're you're devastated and it's funny and it's entertaining and it keeps the audience. Just that's the other element Eh. That I thought was so exciting. Is just it it's It's a movie. That is the thrilling in funny and the real experience for audience's And I feel like I don't know that's one thing with knives out. That was kind of a goal was I feel like the notion of the. Has I feel like we've talked about this before I feel like this kind of coopting of the word entertaining by big movies. You know what I mean is is something that is is nonsense. The idea that entertainment means Turn your brain off and watching explosions whereas the notion that we can make something that is just people in rooms talking and have it. If you if you are thinking in terms of the audience's experience you can make it as entertaining. It's funny and thrilling. Have people laughing people cheering at the end and make it as entertaining as anything. That's like a big blockbuster entertainment I Dunno again up soapbox here but so but parasite is a very good example. Well when I think of the movies that have come out this year. There has been this undercurrent of like eat. The rich kind kind of thing like when I think of movies like US Jordan peels film. I think of ready or not I think of parasite and I think of this film and it sounds like we're kind of in this moment of of this backlash against the rich and people enjoying seeing movies in which You know the upper class are given what for and I'm curious like when you were writing this was was that something like were you trying to say something. In that regard that we'd kind of fit in with this uh the cinema landscape right now with other films are also us now. Now though I mean there's other films hasn't come out when I was like I said I've been thinking Eh for the past ten years so now I think it's just this word confluence and I you know I I within those other filmmakers went also like characterize it as as eat the rich per se. I think there is. It's more and I guess I can speak for my own movie. It's it's you know it. I hope it's not saying that. You know money is the problem. It's it's kind of looking much more at S- I guess I guess the easiest route for this is he's kind of privilege as looking at kind of that American mode of once you're in the castle you pull up the drawbridge behind you and it. It's also looking at the fundamental level kind of semantically Kinda the same thing as looper the notion of what fear of this notion of what's mine and when when bats threatens how on kind of the source of all evil is is possession basically and this what we will do and the stories. We'll tell ourselves to justify defy holding onto what's ours and how that can lead to bad stuff anyway so interesting yeah every year. It seems like there's kind of it does respond to the culture that they're born out of so it makes sense. Well one of the things that I love most about knives out is that it seems to the movies positions seems to be you know in a time now where we are in our tribes and we say you know if you're not on my ideological side. You're you're my enemy. This movie seems to be saying. Hey whoa both ideological extremes have rotten people in them. It's not about what ideological position you take. It's about being a good person and ugly. I Love I love that about this movie. That was the good. Yeah that was. That was really what car that was supposed to be. That's great all right. Why don't we move into spoilers for an is out starting right now so If you have not seen knives out tune out go. See the movie It's it's the first and then come back and listen to the rest of this conversation There's a lot we're GONNA be diving into. So I spoke with my wife life prior to this interview and she has an encyclopedic knowledge of Agatha Christie. And and she's she pointed out like how many Agatha Christie he crops are in this movie right and I thought I would relate some of these tropes to you and you can sort of like riff on them or comment. I don't like where you're trying to do something to put a little spin on it but let's start with the one that Jeff cannot appointed out the idea of a gentleman detective right in general. There's a gentleman detective if he's usually a private consulting detective which who works alongside the police which is a arrangement that I think is actually unimaginable. In real life. We share in reality. The police police would kick that person out. But it's kind of this way to let this Let the audience be delighted by this character because it's a game of wits of the audience versus is the detective right typically. You're trying to like outsmart the detective sometimes and in this movie you turn it on. Its head a little bit because as Jeff pointed out the person Christian you're rooting for the detective is trying to capture. So you don't want the detective to succeed so you talk about but like that trope and how you tried to bring that to life. While there's a couple of minutes I will reiterate we're in spoiler alert full spoiler territory or if you haven't seen the movie go away and see the movie come back So yes so So there's a couple of interesting things I mean. The first of all one thing another trope that Christie and but all detective fiction this mode kind of does is the audience never gets into the story or sees a story through the detectives is. There's always a secondary character I mean it all began with you. Know Watson but Christie gives poirot Captain Hastings and a lot of the book or there's You know there is always kind of like a secondary character. WHO's a step behind the detective who we are seeing the the story through there is and that's very important to give that kind of distance now? Structurally I talked to before we talked before Jeff. US The very intelligent refreshingly Ashley Intelligent question or once I thought okay. I'm going to structure. This starts. Who done it turns into a hitchcock thriller turns back into a who done it and what that really means is that central part are GonNa do the Colombo thank? I'm going to kind of show you the crime and show you the quote unquote killer. And then it'll be sort of a how or or how are they gonNA get caught for the middle section of until it isn't and that the resided that was because the that's a weakness of potential weakness of who done it is that the second act can turn into clue gathering leading up to a big surprise. One big surprise is at the end which is like the antithesis of how hitchcock built the engine of his movies He was all about suspense so once I realized that. Okay well if if you could do the Colombo thing but make the audience genuinely beyond the side of the quote unquote killer. You know not in a way. That's like the creepy creepy like Norman Bates Way. But where you're like. I feel weird them. Rooting for this person. Arena like Walter White that ended genuine. Sh she is in the moral moral rights Then it sets up exactly what you're talking about Japan. The really interesting thing though is it's not the detective who is like the antagonised. Just the detective can be sympathetic. It is the rules of the genre itself that become the Anti Guinness. It's the fact that we know how these stories work and we know the killer gets caught at the end that becomes the thing that we're dreading. I gave blank that line. You know the this machine Was He say this machine lead Finds the truth. That's what it does you know. He's coming he's coming not just on himself but also on genre itself. Yeah exactly. He's talking about were in this machine. It leads to me catching you at the ads. And she asks always and and so yes. Ah The dairy much that seemed like a that that just as a genre walk that got me very excited. Speaking of an arm is like a commonly. I'm an leave recurring. TROPE also is the idea that the narrator is unreliable right so a book. The murder of Roger ackroyd probably most famous plastics right. And we'll Lhasa you kind of turn this notion on. Its head because in like the parallel version of that book. In this movie like Marta is theoretically the narrator right. But you you turn it on its head. Because she can't lie right so in some ways the unreliable narrator but she lies by omission so like when did Jiang come up with that idea so that was just kind of a story based thing that came up with and then slowly got to the idea the vomit thing and so the story base thing was Okay we're GONNA care about this character. She's an impossible situation. Her only tool to get out of that. The situation is lying. So it's the Vince Gilligan. School of screenwriting. It's let's make life as hard as possible for the characters we care about and so take take away her ability to lie and then I thought well okay so that means giving her a towel. She can like blink twice she can touch her nose and but then when I thought well it's something a little more fun vomit thing aid. The that's fun like it's it's a fun way to kind of wake do that be. It's something she can't hide. Hi It's something where once we know that there's no way she can let you know she can't like turn away for a second you know she. She manages to at one point in the car but But anyway so the and then the bigger thing was when I realized how could use it at the ads and not yet Nacho but also a a very important story thing at the end is when we get to that final scene where that thing happens What we've just witnessed is our our protagonist essentially being passive and listening for twenty minutes? Wall belong to the crime out and I needed a beat at the end where. Marta was active and proactive and did something that one day she had to beat the killer in a way. Okay that was active. And so once I realized I could leverage this puke thing in service of that that that's what made me just like. Oh yeah is it. You get like one of those every script and a half where you where you realize idea and you start jumping around your you know your real like thinking. Oh that's really gonNA work so it's so funny that we as the audience or like yes. She really is dead. That's what what are the things that I love about. The process of watching this movie to is is that it seems like we're having a or at least. I felt like I was having a conversation with the movie where I I would think something and and it seems like you anticipated my thought and are answering a stretch there. where I'm like you know? He's definitely definitely not dead. He's he faked his own death. He's on scandal author. Yeah Yeah Yeah. He's a he's a mystery author. He's doing this to mess with his family. And then the movie you seems to go. Yeah I know you thought that he's totally dead. You'RE GONNA buy yes is there. Is there a step in in the the writing process where you are trying to anticipate those things that the audience is going to think and then answering them. Not I mean the thing is I feel like you. Can you gotta be careful with that because you can get yourself in trouble because it's it's really even big obvious things like that. It's it's still hard to really anticipate those with accuracy Chrissy and if you start writing to that you can you know. I think it's a for me. I'm much more focused on a much more. A useful place to write is not thinking in some other way of where the audience is headed. It's going to be but really entirely thinking through the eyes of the characters that we're seeing the story through ads. Ads Largely Marta for a lot of the movie. So you know that really helps me to focus. I think I would go a little crazy if I started doing. All the math of was the audience going to be thinking. It's much more okay. What does Marta thinking? Because I know the audience is seeing through her eyes. So I mean there's a little bit of what you're talking about but it's IT'S I. I think that slightly be a dangerous path to go down. I think it was a real head fake right when the moment when Christopher plummer is very calmly telling Marta what to do Because he thinks he's been injected like it makes me feel like. Oh maybe Christopher plummer somehow responsible for this. Maybe he's not really dead. Maybe he's hearing this whole thing and then The movie is a little bit over two hours long. I think But it's around fifty four minutes into the film when you show Harlin stabbing himself or slitting his own threat right and that that scene kind of remove all doubt that he is in fact that. Because you're seeing it as a flashback. And it's IT'S GONNA you're you're showing as much much of it as you can. While still being tasteful right so what was behind the decision to reveal that to the audience at like slightly before the halfway point. Because you could have like I guess you needed to to some degree right show from purpose but I feel like you could have concealed that further on. What was the idea of like feeling? He's definitely we dead at that point. That's like the transition point into hitchcock. Land right right right exactly. Yeah well because I didn't want to I wa- I think another essential thing for a good. Who is the audience? Feeling like you're playing fair at least from me when I'm watching a one of these. I feel like nick if I know a movie is teasing me and holding back information that I'm feel like I'm ahead of then I get that feeling of okay. Okay okay. I know what's is going to have a data and so I feel like actually a good who done it does exactly what you're talking about in cuts it says to the audience. It's not playing straight with you. This is here is actually you know. It's the same way that you know. A magician. Wants to give the appearance with car trick of having a nothing up my sleeve sleep showing you very clearly that everything is above board here even if it's not so So the notion of you know The the notion of kind of extending that kind of coy is he dead. Is He mile now. WHA- as opposed to and also because I knew that I had another engine for that second in half the movie. I wasn't going to rely on this notion of the audience. Guessing appears other not. I was going to put all my eggs in the basket or appear that I'm putting all my eggs in the basket of of. How is Marta? And together way with Oh. This girl is in this tough situation. I'd like her. How is she going to get out of this? Impossible thing while all of these things come down on her head. So so it made sense in that moment and it also emotionally from the point of it was mostly done. That seem to kind of put. Sort of a a moral moral to give Marta The even less than the reveal the moment that comes after of her having the emotional reaction to oh having watched her friends just die and then finding her resolve to. I'm going to do what he told me. I'm going to do his last last. Wish I'm going to get out of this that was as important if not more so than the That the revelation of it right right a couple more troops. I wanted to I mentioned to you. One of them is that disguise is a another huge Agatha Christie trope fray examples include booed witnessed from the prosecution the mysterious affair at styles and curious referenced. In this movie it's not a huge plot point but like an armistice character Marta disguises. This is herself as Harlan in the film was that something like your Consciously calling back to. Yeah yeah there's also one of my favorite coiro books which which is not one that many people enjoy. I'd be curious whether with with your wife thinks of it is curtain which Poro last case and I think it's a beautiful bug. It's kind of the Irishman of Agatha Christie. Books it's kind of sad and about deaths listen at like about everything ending but there is also a very Interesting version of what you're talking about in that book And yeah the the notion and that this thing this thing that she would do together way with the thing that Harlan talks her through the idea that that is a fairly standard standard murder mystery thing which is all kind of Mr Young basically hacking the perceived time line of who was there when through You know it. And there's in the murder of Roger Ackroyd. It's done with a phonograph in. There's there's many different versions Asians of it But the idea that that would be kind of a very straightforward murder mystery trophy thing that this murder mystery writer would come up with And something the thing that that also adds to the tension of course belong is going to be able to untangle this because this is the sort of thing detectives untangle these books On that note one word play being part of the the final solution in like in the case of Well there's a book called the double double clue that that references but like in the film it is in the form of Hugh Hugh Kareem Lee Agatha Christie type of thing. Like when you did you have that in mind already like we've got to make it his name Hugh so you can think she was saying you. I forget eh point that came up with I mean I think it's yeah. That is a very trippy thing. I love that kind of stuff. I think that's Super Super Fund. I think I don't think I would have have hinged the entire movie on something like that kind of works because it's a little bit of the Cherry on top of the Sunday when it comes and it's like one extra little little delight in this long line of things. I'm not sure if it's you know a strong enough things have actually put any weight on but there have been murder. Mystery shop hinge on that like the pronunciation with somebody took great delight in pointing out that the movie the Elijah Wood movie north entirely entirely hinges on mishearing like a name. Like I haven't seen in years but someone's like yeah. That's the whole reason. That goes off on. This weird trip is because he missed fears. Her is parents Erin saying like you know the north of detective films I I was final trope opening up which is like an extremely important Agatha Christie. Is that the mechanics of the murder. As explained feel very very intricate and difficult if not impossible awesome like the timing is extremely challenging. You know how do you switch the labels in the morphine etc.. It relies on this extraordinary precision. Timing big example Zappala being like murder on the Orient Express so like curious like if that was something that you had in mind. When you're I guess in this case right in this film that that would be like in hugh or ransom going back into the house and doing all that stuff? Sure Marty goes back in Shirley yeah can you talk a little bit about that. Yeah there's always I mean that's I think part of the fun of something like this is there's always a slight elements of ridiculousness to actually make about. How Samoan when we go about killing someone? There's always and I think the trick is to have that slight bit of silliness but at the same time you don't want it tip it over into how come you don't you don't want to break it basically you know and And you need to kind of. It's kind of that way it has. It has something in common with time travel. I think in movies where it's something that doesn't really make a makes sense in terms of like the the interior earier rules of it doesn't really make sense would do this. In order to You know in order to bump their grandfather off but at the same time within the Within the telling of the story it makes perfect sense and within the logic of the story it it it makes and probably more important within the genre genre that the audience knows the story is taking place at it makes sense this sort of thing people do in murder mysteries and so we and so we buy it. It's a Rube Goldberg Right. It's like just just unlock the door. Now I'm going to set the egg up to roll down to hit the thin and that's the fun that's the fun of it is but it also I mean it it you know like the case of ours like there is a reason that he does it that way you know. He doesn't just just go up and kill his grandma because he is whole the thing is he wants to frame. Marta for it you know and so There there is something that makes sense about it in this kind of circumspect way and it's simple simple enough to wait I think we may too complicated like or or had it in John Onto insane of Exactly this had to happen at exactly this. If the idea of luck played too big a part in what was supposed to happen with with the killers and tents and then I think that could break it for the audience and become unsatisfying right. Well tell you the the moment that I started crying and your movie was when we find out that Marta would just know the viscosity of the her level of skill and experience. And it's such A. It's such a beautiful detail did you. Did you come to that or is that inspiration so originally as I had heather ridden I didn't have that. She just actually nixed up a mix up the things and gave him the right ones but accidentally because everything's spilled on the ground when he took the go board over the notion of she somehow did subconsciously. Picked up the right one but then that whole beautiful moment of could be where she gets to tell her. You're very good because you're a good nurse which those two actors just played so well in that moment I I in in the way that Nathan's music kicks in at that point. It's Kosovo happier that moment that actually so I have two friends Dan and Stacy Sheridan who are dear friends of mine since college. And they're a screenwriting having team husband wife screenwriting team and you know everyone has a writer has like they're crude. They like their few friends that they'd really trust or the first ones they show any script to Dan and stacy are that for me. It was actually them when I showed them the first draft pitch this idea of her picking up the right one because she the because the viscosity it was like a note they gave like what about this. I think I was like. Oh no no. And then. I've slowly realised Dan. Stacey have just handed me a plate of solid gold old. That's the Dan and stacy moment in the script full credit to them for the that was really it. Yeah Yeah I'm Monroe in the chat room says this is. My parents are nurses and they cheered when blunk called her a good nurse so we had we had a local consultants who is who is a nurse and she showed Anna. How do and it's it's pretty correct like she does? A saline rinse in between every one of the Liga saline flush every every time. So if you look. She's only two injections but she like does it like you now three or four times. Because she's doing the proper thing and she she wipes the the nub of it with like this antiseptic thing and she so she to took great pains to try and make the nursing elements As on the wrong long as we possibly could I said I was done talking about trump's I have one more I want to bring up because I just can't resist. which is that like in Agatha Christie novels often each of the characters is is an archetype of like people of our times right And that's kind of something that you do in this film like in in this movie The the hired help is an immigrant. The child is an outright kroll. There's a lifestyle blogger. There's like Don Johnson character who thinks he's very progressive by referencing Hambleton. In fact he's terrible and so it feels like you know that murder mysteries. They are a kind of a way of saying something about what upper class America looks like. was those on your mind as you're reading this yes so it's inter- it's the dairy very true and there's something about this genre about the whodunnit genre. The whole thing is kind of perfectly genre itself is so good at looking at the class structure of society Without like having to stop what it is in order to preach about it or something thing it's baked into you can do this. Incredibly entertaining ride this wonderfully entertaining genre. In just in the bones of it is a little microcosm of society with the power structure within that microcosm and then you're suspects are a cross section of that microcosm from the high to the low of society Eddie. It's just a beautiful machine. The and the thing that was interesting to me is usually. We're used to seeing that but we're used to seeing it. Don Don as period pieces said in the past and usually done in Britain. Because they're usually I get the Christie up tensions and as Americans we can all feel a little Kinda high and mighty the about the silly Brits with our upstairs downstairs stuff and not the notion of of taking that machine and applying to American in two thousand nineteen same like could be really Seemed like a good yields new interesting things. I want to talk about a couple of like some of the really interesting shots in the film and kind of how you conceived of them how you executed them so one of the most memorable shots in the film I think is is also in the trailer. which is I think? The character of Fran is sitting there in the darkness and then Marta walks up to her shines a flashlight under face. And there's like a spider calling her face. Yeah very memorable moment like because like the spider in the face indicates something about what has happened tonight character and it's a terrifying image overall. Is this something that you had like a story board out your movies even movies. Obviously obviously last Jedi. You'd have to do that but like this is something. Yeah I do I do. I story boarded the whole thing. I do just really. I feel like I've gotten worse at drying over over the years I've actually gotten so they're really crude line drawings That's what they do is they just might see my ep. He loves them because they just give the basic information of the composition of the shot without any superfluous information And so Yeah I story brought out the whole thing and then when we show up onset sometimes deviate from that sometimes. We'll you know all block it. They'll say look at the real space and say oh. This would better to do it. This way. That I always have to have that backup in my head and And yeah the the. The spider shot was a good example of that that that was a that was one that I absolutely elite had the we had to do something like that or the lighting gag kind of the apocalypse. Now lighting gag were sitting in the dark and then he leaned forward into the light in the first thing. We talks to Marta. You kinda have to visually plan that because you have to plan the entire lighting of the space around it you know so the notion and we had to pick that location that laundromat location with the notion that it would be the windows just on one side okay. We have to pay up the windows. So it's like diffused lighting so it's very silhouette when when Martinez walking in the side. So yeah you get something that yeah definitely planned out concert one of the shots that struck me in the movie is immediately after the the will is read and Marta is sort of escaping before she gets into ransoms car. I it felt like there's there's a chaos of the whole family following her out and it felt like there's a shot where it starts on sticks and then someone picks it up off the sticks and it's handheld yeah. I've never seen that before. I thought that was so we started on a Dolly and we kind of had the camera just resting on On the Dalai head with some foam rubber ever so win slip around and then Dale Miranda our camera operator. He was ready and at the appropriate moment he picked up and went hand. Held and I think because I think it's the only hand held in the movie if only handheld shot in the whole film if I if I recall which which I think is the reason it has impacted. I'm always surprised people notice it but I think it's because is it is unique. In in in that moment I felt like it made a lot of sense to get you inside her head In especially to show with the contrast of the shot is so starting in the mode of the rest of the movie this various solid mode and then it going to chaos. So that's why I think it would have been effective just cutting to a hand held shot but that that transition of it you know Yankee said starting in the movie and then literally like picked up off the it's very disorienting. In you know the the nature of that scene so so I'd like to class things up your Ryan by asking you. I mean I don't want to go on a rant here but I feel like a lot of like movie vomit. Looks like like way too easy. You know what I mean like often a character like Ben's over a toilet and you hear a sound effects shopping else you know what I mean and I just like to thank you. Bring back the movie vomit. which is something that happens at the show you the film more like like projectile vomits? It's all over ransoms face and like he's a very like extremely very chunky undigested vomit. I'm curious he's like how you arrived at how vomit would look because it feels like a pretty woman in the film. Yeah it had to be kind of brownish should have chunks in it colorful chunks and it was it. The bomb itself was Quite delicious actually and I know this because it was like getting getting a toddler to eat. I like showed Anna mean like eight eight like us own orbit myself and it was. It was kind of like apple cinnamon ain't with like chunks of I forget what was in there. It was like forget. If it's like apple chunks or something or like things of I forget but dried free or something But yes we had an for and their shots she actually spits it out and then for Christmas shot we actually had a little air cannon that allude blew with into his face how many. How many of that did you have to do? I think we did too but yeah I mean you. Could've it could've done the smooth vomit. You you know you could have done something less repulsive but You know the chunks well and it in that moment we want you know. I think it's ten the grossness of his temper. It by how happy we are that it's happening to him. And so we get away with Chunkier chunkier consistency. Hey so we talked a lot about like Agatha Christie as being an obviously huge is bracing for this film. I'm curious where there any other her detective novels or authors that. You're a big fan of the kind of informed this movie I was at Harlem Throng it was Was a reference to Harlan Cohen. Didn't know if that was the case of no not really. He was a reference to a book that I grew up loving. Choose your adventure. Book called in who killed Harlow `thrombin. Oh Wow that's cool. You remember that book because I know I read a ton of adventure. So it's very possible. Yes that was that was a reference to that but Yeah I mean there are other other authors. I really enjoyed Dorothy. Sarah's work like like John Dickson Carr But Christie for me is the one that I really wrote grew up reading and I feel like Her her character work is is is is. The main thing is one of the big things I love about her along with her plotting I think she's very very just kind of underrated writer in terms of how she draws these characters who one hand are very like you said are title. They're kind of caricatures in the way but they also land enough as characters dressed to Be invested in them. So Yeah Chris. Christie Christie's the main one. But there's there's so many great mystery writers out there people keep asking me if I have read. I never have the The Western game. Yeah which I've never read actually and I guess it has to do with a will in old house and I need to read it but it is a great book. It's pretty hilarious. That you haven't read the the Western game but who killed harlow thrown be was the inspiration for his name Are you you you joked earlier about you know been while blunk will return. Is there some desire to return to that character if God yeah absolutely. I'm already out the next one. I right now. I Daniel and I had so much fun doing this. Also you know now it was like and so now I was just honestly holding my crossing my fingers that I I was like if audiences responded this. I'll pull the trigger right away next. It would be really fun so I would love the idea of of you. Know I it continuing in the tradition of A sort of ensemble cool All Star cast you know I I. It's absolutely go. Do a whole new location just asked and just like that. Yeah it's I'm trying to figure out how oh I get no Siegen in it though. have him just play a totally different character. Different character in every film. He's like a little. Yeah well we're so glad that now is out is not only a great film. It's also doing really well at the box office. It's clear thank you tapped into something. That people are really interested in that. They love so congratulate. Doc You really can't multi tests with the Banjo band. Freezing a little drool coming out of the side of your mouth as you know. It's like Said maturing candidate like when you comes out uh-huh going through a whole mode crossing and get out the sniper rifle and that is what I'm doing and Johnson congrats on everything. Ron Johnson is the director of films such as brick with blooper unless yet I- knives out is his newest film. It's out in theaters right now. Ryan thanks for joining us today on the special guest does thank you so much for having Jeff. Thank you for having me Jeff. I say you know what it was my pleasure around got I guess any time. I'll come on your podcast. Thank you I love you David Chen I love you. Love you to all right. Thank you might take care.

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