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Its Not Good Enough

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

1:08:32 hr | 4 months ago

Its Not Good Enough

"Baseball tonight the podcast is the baseball tonight. Podcast for wednesday january twentieth. Two thousand and twenty one producing from its home studio in the foothills of connecticut. Schwenk buster only working for my own studio in new york and tell gets video today. I've never seen your man table where you work. It's pretty cool thanks man. It's a little bit cooler around the corner. That's where i have the lounge area with the couch and the bookshelves. And all that. But i got a nice little nook down here. We're going to bring you a little more video. Actions your social feeds. So that's kind of the game plan. What this new setup and we can I can look at your beautiful face every morning. So that's that's one. I'm sure you're looking forward to that days a week. Oh my god you know. I- josh macrey always used to say that in the mornings. I would talk to him through the course of the year before noon more than he talked to his wife and sadly you're going have to deal with us as we move forward we start. Today was sad. News hall of fame. Pitcher don sutton is passed away at the age of seventy five in his career. He won three hundred twenty four games at a three point to sixty or a Tim curtin has some great memories of don sutton as we move forward news of the day last night george springer agreed to a six year. One hundred fifty million dollar deal with the toronto blue jays who have been incredibly busy. They also serve greeted with kirby yates to be closer pitcher tyler chat would and they're in the process now talking with michael branly. That lineup would be amazing. One of the questions. Apper team is whether or not the blue jays lineup with brantley with springer is going to be better than the yankees lineup. The angels agreed to terms with jose can tana one year at eight million dollars last week. The yankees Agreed to terms of dj lemay. Hugh his deal six years for ninety million dollars corey kluber one year at eleven million dollars. The national nationals agreed to terms with john lester in the end because of the way the contract is structured washington paying him just two million dollars this year with three million dollars in a buy out of a future option. I can't believe the cubs didn't bring him back Joe musk grove traded to the san diego padres excited about that movement about their rotation today. We're gonna be talking with padres manager jayce tingler and of course. We had the ugly news that was broken by meaning times. And jeff passan jared porter before yesterday the general manager of the arc. Matt's acknowledged sending unsolicited explicit images to a reporter while he was working for the chicago cubs the woman that senate to as a foreign correspondent who had moved to the us to cover a major league. Baseball said to jeff and demeanor that at one point. She ignored more than sixty messages porter. Who was then working for the cubs. They mentioned before he sent a final lewd photo after receiving the most explicit image. The woman sent him a message asking him to stop. Porta responded in a series of tech saying he was sorry would stop and then he apologize reached by. Espn and monday night. Porter acknowledged texting with the woman. He initially said he not send any pictures of himself. When told the exchanges show he sent selby's in other pictures. He said that the more explicit ones are not of me those are kinda like jokes stock images. That story broke it. Eleven o'clock monday night just before. Eight o'clock on tuesday cohen. The new owner. The mets announced the jared porter had been fired yesterday afternoon. Sandy alderson the mets president spoke to reporters. And he talked about. Jared porter's reaction when he first spoke to him about it. I would say that jared was misleading. I think that we didn't understand the full scope of this situation until we had a chance to read the article and ultimately also to see the video. But i didn't get to see the article itself until it would actually published which was in the ten thirty eleven timeframe talk to the writer about ten o'clock got fifteen minutes from that point to complete a response. We didn't want to be silent in the article but to answer your question directly. I don't want to suggest that. Jared was not totally forthcoming on the other hand. The full breadth of the situation was not really apparent to us until the article written. And we're at a chance to read it. Sandy was asked what is initial reaction was when he found out. Look i was shocked. You know we had references from a variety of organizations number of individuals people at known him for a long time people who endorsed him who knew him from his early days in college. There wasn't really a dissenting voice so for my sampling i was. I was shocked and you know eventually that gives way to disappointment in a little bit of anger but this was a total surprise to us. He was asked if the organization should have known about this beforehand. I don't think we would have hired jerry if we'd known about the conduct before effect. I know we wouldn't have and the question is should we have known and we did a background check. We ask the question you know. Is there anything else we need to now. You know it wasn't pointed about social media or something that's sore but you know given the length of time it's transpired between the series of incidents and And now no. I'm confident that this is not something that we should have known about. Should have found out about it and use other means to inquire that we would have known about it to my knowledge. None of the other organizations. Which jared was employed knew about this either in just a few minutes Just a little while. We're going to be talking with my friend and colleague. Jessica mendoza jared porter situation. We talk with jim. Curtin and sarah things as well and i mentioned later in the podcast. We'll be speaking with jayce tingler now before we get to. All that conor mcgregor returns the octagon on january twenty third in a rematch against dustin. Now here we go taylor. You like spell out a way that i could pronounce his name. I'm just going to give it a shop. I need you to jump in and correct me. pla i paul. Paul i believe this according to google. Okay you could have put a y. In their action is opposed to e- i to fifty seven only on. Espn plus you have c. Two fifty seven is exclusively available to espn plus subscribers for sixty nine ninety nine to order visit. Espn plus dot com slash p. p. b. minoza is a baseball analyst for. Espn and jessica was texting yesterday asking to be on the show. And you can tell from the nature of your tax in their response to them and the gaps at time. Boy you were all over this. Jared porter news feeling very strongly about it. Tell me about what your reaction was. When read that story. I felt sick honestly You know i i always just. I put myself in the women's shoes you know. And i i felt her. You know i empathize with her and then comes frustration sadness. I couldn't go to bed that night. I mean i think everyone got it was later in the evening or at least that's and when i got it i was actually on women baseball. Call yesterday about it like it was interesting so everyone was like up all night. And we're like shoot. We should have all been calling each other I just couldn't go to sleep it just even my husband was like it's okay like know what i'm like but it's not it's not and i think this one you know there's so many different things that come across dealing with women whether there's domestic violence sexual saul you know in this case sexual harassment. But it's hard to to be a woman in the business and not be able to relate And to see the text messages into actually like the photos you know it really just made it that much more real So yeah i felt. I felt sick. I felt frustrated. I felt sad Literally did not go to sleep. That night just started emailing and texting people probably woke up quite a few people I text the jeff. Passan was psych Both of them were just like thank you for doing this. I know this wasn't easy But being able to dig out and get the facts for this Thank you it's probably two. Am east coast time And then reaching out to our own network in saying. I wanna talk about this like. I'm have a strong opinion. I just feel like we needed a woman's voice. I was just heartbroken for the reporter. Who's no longer reporter in the idea that the choices that were made by jared porter the actions of jared porter Altered her career path. And that was a dream job or her and to have that taken away. She's never going to regain that and that that that. When i initially read the story it was just so sad for her yet. And i think you know we have. We have so few women in the game as it is. We're trying to get more diverse. Feel like the sport is definitely growing. That way we've seen just with the hires in the last few months but that that hit me too i was like we already have so few women into no that that is a real deterrent. You know. I mean that is something that i mean. I would've probably done the same to be honest. It's one thing to be sexually harassed to have it done in your second language in a country. That's not even your own in to seek help and been turned down and taken basically told you know you can use this cheer advantage. I mean you even wrap your mind around that when you're actually trying to get help trying to figure this out In this business will guys attracted you use it to your advantage. It's like erma. Gosh like what are we doing. Like how much is the culture That's far away from what it should be that. It's not even just fit the person but then those covering up for it are also you know skewed to that point when i read the story a another takeaway for me right right away with. This is the tip of the iceberg. Having been someone it's a male dominated culture and worked in it for more than thirty years and i'm like yeah. There are so many examples of this We've never heard about and we're never going to hear about it yesterday. In fact I saw molly night of the athletic quoted in new york times. She was asked about it. She said it's so exhausting. It's executives its players pr people. It's writers it's everywhere. It's the culture Richard rowley of the athletic wrote a first person piece about an experience. She had in two thousand twelve when she was covering the baltimore. Orioles melby dot com where she got a text message from a player who she thought she knew and trust and the players have got some information for you and she goes over to the players drives over to the team hotel knocks and the players door in the player comes out and tries to kiss her. And i as i say i. I'm sure that there were a lot of really horrible. Memories dredged up for a lot of people who work in the sport yesterday from that. Yeah it was interesting because We had it was myself. And stephanie abstain from sports illustrated. Were a part of this woman in baseball. Called the hip instead of months ago and it happened yesterday and so her and i you know get on and it was forty women within the industry than baseball and had had of course week out like these questions. We're gonna go over these things. You know stephanie. With the astros. And stuff and i got on. We actually got an early. You know stephanie. And i in the person who leaves jennifer wolf actually Is the one that has gotten all these women together. Which by the way is such an amazing thing Anytime there's women. Entering the game she gets their email. Sure that she's a part of this group and we're like how do we Why are we going to talk about anything else. Like this needs so she kind of sent out like this. You know letting everyone know like. Hey like because i know everyone has. This is such a personal thing in there might be women that might not want to be a part of this because it brings back so much for pretty much every single person that was on this call And i got like two and a half hours later. And i was like literally i told my husband i was like i just feel like i've got ran over by a mack truck like you're just hearing stories in an it. It's unbelievable knows a very You know it wasn't recorded it was. It was like this forum of people. I'd never met at ninety percent of the women on this i i didn't even know But here just everybody's experiences in honestly like just in like knowing there was so much good and that was talked about too. I mean that was a few women brought up. Oh my gosh. But there's so many amazing. Ben i mean buster like working with you this entire time. Like like it overshadows the fact that like most of the men in this or are actually completely like yes. We want women. Yes we do not want this in the game at all like please But the problem is is that lake twofold is like. Is that the few that do i feel like there's not enough. You know speaking up from from those around them you know because it's so hard is a woman i can't even describe in buster you've seen this like when a woman speaks up like immediate reaction in case in this story. I mean there was proof like we've talked about that like if there wasn't a picture of his genital area if there was a sixty two unanswered texts would if there were five and there was no photos. Like that. Still not okay. But it's like you almost need this like gigantic proof of like this is what's happening to be able to speak up. Even then she's anonymous because she fears even not being in the business. They're still fear. How sad is that. And that's where. I get sorry frustrated. Because it's like there's so much backlash for the women that do speak out. I did a couple shows on this and the question drives me crazy. Always in those in these situation as well. Why didn't you report it sooner. And you're like are you kidding. Me like You know given the culture of the sporting given the fact that they're you know the isn't there isn't necessarily an obvious place to get to. I wanna talk to you about that. In a second about structural change. I you mentioned me. You and i worked together and sunday baseball for years. I remember the moment being most heartbroken for you as a friend. And sorry getting emotional thinking about it. I know we had The playoff game Between the mets and the astros and actually mets in the giants and Madison bumgarner was great. It was a great broadcast. I didn't screw up. We got managed to get through without blowing a completely and we're feeling really good about it and like our group. Dan showman aaron boone. You me we're back in the car. Ready drive back to the hotel. And i got a text message from someone with the houston. Astros trying to get your phone number. Because they're one of their minor. Leaguers had been tweeting out something attacking you be basically because you're a woman and i remember getting text message and the person who's trying to reach out with me was being nice and was like you know. How do i get in touch with jessica. One apologize behalf the organization blah blah blah. And i showed you the phone. You're sitting next to me in the car and and just the look on your face. You're just so sad like you would just had this great experience of broadcast. And i think the words to me at that moment. Were you know this is never gonna stop and and just feeling just so heartbroken for you that that was your experience thank you. It's it's i mean this is what i mean it. It helps so much to know that the team around you like has your back. You know and it i mean it is. It's it's you know it it. It's it's always gonna be there but like i don't and that was kind of this thing on the call yesterday was like we're never gonna change this and i'm like i. You know. I will never feel that way like i do believe it will change in the reason is buster because of people like you like emotion that just gave you and i've met so many men who have daughters or or just great strong women that are in their life wives moms whoever and they just. They're like how can we change this. How can we make this better. And that gives me such hope. Because it's people like you just have to continue to speak up when they see a guy as a reporter walks by you know. Make a comment. It's those little things that we stop the. We say dude. Not cool like stop and i personally believe i said this yesterday. We if we can be more proactive. You know every team has sure some sort of sexual harassment training but more times than not. I imagine and i'm sure very strong team. They roll in some tv. They pop in a video or they have a pr guy. Come in riaz listed things that you're not supposed to do and everyone's on their phones and one more meeting out of like all the frigging meetings that you have in spring training or whatever but to actually have a woman come in and just tell her story and i know it takes a lot of brave women to do this. I brought up in a stephanie app. Steiner brought up. Just there's so many women out there that if they could just actually get the room to see them as a human being and what it's like it doesn't even have to be a woman's experience like true sexual harassment but someone who's just experienced walking into a clubhouse where men are naked like i mean it's it's part of like just the natural culture of like what you're doing when you're walking into do your job so just give from just by point of view a woman's point of view just what that feels like a loan from the get-go the uncomfortable you have to get over the things you have to do to feel comfortable let alone just like it helps so much to have a guy. Just be respectful to to say something just to say. Hey dude like stop again leg pulling your towel down when she walks fire in those little things that like earth so huge and i see it more and more and more But it's the proactive with organizations. That i really feel like needs to happen because yeah when it's public and it's a big deal of course there's the firings in the. Oh this is ridiculous. Are steve cohen. Integrity will never do this. You know. I wanna know st coen in the mets their integrity from day. One like what are they doing now to be proactive with the players with the organization. And i'm sure in his heart he does not want any of this. But what are they doing to stop it. And that's that's my biggest thing is not reacting. When the news is out in a story comes out. What are we doing from the very beginning to make sure that this does not happen. And i really hope jess along those lines. That major league baseball moving forward for a lack of a better way to describe it finds like czar to oversee the situation. What was so clear from jefferson. Menas reporting was is that this reporter had no idea where to go with. This will that needs to change. So that if you're someone working in baseball with a team you're a member of the pr staff who gets a text message from a player that's not appropriate. Or if you remember the media you know exactly where to go. And i i and i apologize because emma throw a name out there but you know her personality. I think of someone like gene aftermath of the of the yankees in assistant general manager. She is such a great advocate and to have someone like that being a high profile position. Major league baseball announces. This person is going to be in this job to handle situations like this to be an advocate for women who work in the sport. I think would be really important so if there are tax or some situation that happens that there's that that is a clear place for women to go in order to get help of trust and Right exactly that's the biggest thing is is. We talked about this yesterday like there's hr departments for everywhere organization. But they're like literally one woman was like. I had a situation where literally like a guy like i mean it was bad and she was like i went to someone within the organization not didn't tell me it was like what. How do we handle this like you go online. You fill out like your claim and you send it to the hr director which is some like not even person but just like this overall lace. She's like freaking kidding. Me i'm gonna right. Which has happened to me on some thing in the senate out into this portal. Were god knows where it's going and then hope that like this trusted she's like hack smell so i never said anything and she wanted to. That's the thing and so actually gene after man was on this this call Raquel for by the way another one with the red sox that's just total bad ass like a Told us stories. About like yeah. I don't think anyone would mesh us about. She's just like i mean shoot straight up slap people and i wouldn't doubt it But we talked about exactly that is having a trusted place having somewhere a group of women and we even said like multi-language So that you could. If english is your second language there would be that option and it would be a hundred percent like confidential and never pushing to take action but more of like someone were like. I just wanna know like sometimes i get text messages and i wanna know like is this okay. Is this part of the business you know like because sometimes it's that like you think that maybe this is normal. You know like. I don't know i'm new. One intern was talking about that. Like i sometimes get messages from guys talking to me about stuff that i'm like. I'm not sure. But i don't know who to ask you know and every woman is different to like you know some women it's like i'm not okay with texting me past eight o'clock it. Just don't send me a message and other women are like recount. Could be like. Hey 'cause she's like a mom to so many guys. Hey you need me at two. Am like i am there. You know so having just a female group. And i agree with jean aftermath leading the way i mean. She reminds me so much ability in king like total. I said that. I'm like thank you for being like this. Like leader. just her presence on this call buster. She's like the godmother like comes in. There's just this wide around her and she can also like coach people in the face and it just makes you feel like she's got your back and anybody who goes through that like this reported need someone with them to punch somebody in the face you know like to have that strengthen that power and i hope major league baseball gets a arm women with that possibility to deal with this. Yeah my reaction was actually to reach out to rob manfred yesterday. Like my my poor like what he went through in twenty four like me not sleeping. I was on the phone just like going crazy. Got up early was like just. I mean all day yesterday was like my mission in life to like just help do things and i was like. I'm calling for like okay like we need to get. Mlb to change. And he's like wait. Man for the commissioner guess is like okay Us just trying. I was so fired up. And so you know. But i was like we. We need to have something in place for every organization. We can't just trust that they're gonna show some i mean. Espn we have sexual harassment videos. That are shown. And i promise you most of the men that we work with. Don't like i you know. I hate like they probably don't even watch them if they do. It's like on background. And i'm sitting here. I'm watching the sexual harassment video. You know like the training going. But i want the guys that like you know that are around this to wash this like n even then like for to really resonate and it's not good enough. Just feel like sometimes to have a video when it's baseball when it's you know the culture like i said you have a dynamic work a lot of Reporting journalism all of that is happening in the like a changing areas. There's just that from like the core of it and then from there knowing there's a long history of of just not just harassment but just the ability to like. I can say anything i want to you. And no one's going to say a dang thing right right yes why hope you get a chance to get some sleep. Yeah i'm running on adrenaline right now. And i'm telling you like we will change this. Like i do believe that in you know it might not have every man because we can't change but it's just more of like the the allies around and i'm so grateful for you buster. That's going to make me emotional because it takes men like you for women that work in the industry to like just feel confident like 'cause there were definitely times where i'm like. I don't think i can do this. And it's hard But it helps so much. You have allies that are just other women. seam heads. Rejoice not kids timmy. Time this great game or what with. Tim curtin on baseball tonight and king covers baseball for. Espn and tim your grandfather. Since the last time. I talked to you. Pretty cool yeah. It's more than pretty cool Kelly gave birth to ooi on january eight carson. And she's doing great babies doing great. I spent a week with her her husband mark and they're doing exceptionally well. So sixty four years old grandfather. And i can tell you buster you hopefully someday There are no words to describe it. It was glorious as i hope it would be and west strength. Those kids have shown on so proud of both. Tell me what it was like to hold carson in your arms for the first time. Well he's really little and that was an adjustment. I held my kids to kids for so long. But you forget out. Little babies are but when my daughter presentative to me and said daddy. Here's your grandson. As just as good as it gets right now my goodness. I'm getting weepy thinking about you having the opportunity to do that. Look there's no easy segway into the conversation about your quarter Just got done talking with. Jessica does about this and i. I mentioned to really feel like that. This situation revealed the need for more structural support within baseball for people who are victims of this People who have You know who who get texts like these have people approached in this way. What do you think well. I'm one hundred percent behind you on this buster and of course behind jess on this What really struck me when really bothered me is when we found out that no one asked any women about jared porter in the vetting process. And that's going to have to have to have more structure than that was just like you said we have to do a better job of making sure that the right people are entering the game because this was a terrible thing or the mets terrible thing for major league baseball and course or women that have to put up with this so it's time to do a much better job on this right now. Absolutely the tip of the iceberg. In my opinion it's a male dominated industry. And i would not be surprised if we hear more stories. Come spilling out of this and and shoot even yesterday. Reporters like brits rowley relating her experience of having a player texter and caller up to his room and then and You know try to kiss. Her asia's heartbreaking yet again covered the game for so long in so many female reporters and writers admire respect. So much in. This just can't happen since two thousand twenty one sign and all this in maybe this is as as a sandy Said this is a wakeup call. Should be a wakeup call for everyone involved. So after the memo went after in. The commissioner's office last week. That the teams are going to try to start spring training on time. You can get the sense from team to team like. Oh okay here we go and you do. You do wonder if that spurred a lot of the conversation. The deals we've seen the last week. Dj lemay mayhew corey kluber. The blue jays going crazy on excited about what the blue jays are doing. What about you. Well it's impossible not to. I mean i a a had to add a closer and just go lucky curve. Yates numbers again from two thousand eighteen. Two thousand nineteen thousand. Nineteen season was unbelievably. Good if he can have anything close to that. The name got the back end of the game. Completely closed guys out. Four hundred batters two hundred eighty two innings novels. He get people out strikes him out and that is so critical in today's day and age so he had something enormous to the back end zooming. He's at his best. Jewish grads even more my goodness he's one of the most dynamic leadoff hitters game seen. He's an amazing postseason player. They had an absolute need in that lineup. And like you always like to do buster right out there lineup after a star player joins it. Pretty good lineup. They got right there. Especially with george springer at the top so i think jays had gone from a playoff team last year to a demonstrably better team today and i want to depart. Bluejays going forward especially with young talent there and more on the way. Now it's possible that jim crane the owner of the astros jumps in and says to michael brantley. Look we really need you. We want to bring you back. We're going to try to compete in two thousand twenty one You know they've had good conversations but the blue jays have made it clear they would like springer and brantley as a package deal When you look at the possibility you mentioned about writing out lineups of springer and brantley in the middle of that blue jays lineup. But where would you rank that lineup in baseball. You know top five top tan. Well it would certainly be top ten bradley signs. We might have to go higher than that. Yes the astros by the way. Really need another inner in their outfield with what they have lost down springer but it james could go one more and had another middle of the order back to that team with all those young guys around and with lateral junior looking at least from the photos so much better so much thinner and trimmer This is a very dangerous team. I'm still not sold. Their starting pitching is ready to be great but it might be good enough with the way as can add to the bullpen and what they could potentially do after this to their line even if they add brantley i still think the yankees over one hundred sixty two games or the better team. I think they're more consistent offensively. Plus they have garrett cole the top of the rotation a really good bullpen. How close do you think blue jays if they get brantley and there seems to be a real chance. That's going to happen if they get branly. How close to the blue jays to catch the yankees and your is well the better than the blue jays and i think they'll still be better than the blue jays even with brand but blue jays will suddenly become a real threat to the yankees real real threat in the american league. If they can have boats. Those guys are buster. Helped me here. Just can't believe the yankees are done in what they're doing this this offseason. They've done things in england who back was obviously the most important thing they have to do. They have to add more pitching. They have to add somebody else and i just refused to believe that. This is the exact team. They're gonna open season. I think there's a chance that that they have done their their biggest lifting. I do think they'll add a pitcher But i think if they do out of pitcher it's gonna be like a third tier stored or a second tier reliever They'd like to bring back brett gardner for their outfield. But here's the thing with the yankees. It's pretty clear like a lot of teams since the two thousand sixteen was signed. They wanna get under the combat. Excuse me competitive balance tax at two hundred and ten million dollars and think about that. Tim the mets. The yankees in two thousand and twenty one are going to spend about the same that the two thousand five yankee spent. That's where the yankees are right now in terms of their spending. Now they can blow that up. Was you go along. Maybe during the season holes emerge in a maybe they make some aggressive trades and they go for it but they seem to be wanting to paint within the lines and one of the reasons. Why is that when you look at sort of how the talent has has moved this winter. The national league seems to be getting stronger and stronger. The padres the mets making their moves on the other hand the american league east which is always driven. The arms race in baseball hasn't done that this winter right and you know again when you're the yankees and yet once two thousand nine and You have been since two thousand nine. This isn't good enough and they have to look at those powerhouses that are being built around the major. Saying we're gonna win the world series which ultimately is all that matters to the yankees. They have to get better from here. So i i admire them on one hand for cheating payroll down and not being ridiculous with their money. Like they've been so many times. Certainly under george steinbrenner. But i'm with you. I think they're gonna. I don't think you're gonna go get trevor. Bauer into the rotation. I can't believe that they will get through corners of the way through this season and realize we are one more player away from winning the world. Choose to go get that guy. No matter how much he costs at least as a rental he has they have to win the world series this year specially with the the way it ended last year. That was just for a yankee. Saying we're gonna be talking with jayce. Tingler the manager the padres coming up how closer the padres to catching the dodgers it. Top a baseball well obviously like everyone else i love with the padres did away. They've upgraded their starting. Pitching is ridiculous. Agent preller did this. Winter was amazing without giving up it maybe is fought top five prospects incredible but the dodgers are still the dodgers buster week in. Not forget rate. Weren't last year the win forty-three in seventeen. Was certain problems going on there. I don't be better in two thousand and twenty one. May johnson areas all getting a more of a chance to pitch and of another full hunt. Potentially hundred sixty two games from mookie betts and they have all the money and all the resources to figure out what to do at third base. If it's not just turner. That's marcus tinian of somebody dodgers of the best team in baseball. They proved it and they still are but the padres took another gigantic step towards beating the dodgers. All right. i'm gonna put you on the spot. Which i loved to do. Give me your top five teams in baseball in terms of power ranking. I did this on. Espn dot com recently. I've got the dodgers one. I've got the padres too. I've got the braves three. I feel like the braves are incredibly underrated of the yankees four. And i got the mets five. Tell me where you would go while the doctors are one. I totally agree with you on that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna move the yankees up a little bit only because i'm just assuming they're gonna add that pitcher they need to add. I've got the padras three. I love what they don. The braves are vastly underrated. Let's not forget how they came. Knocker abass running mistake might have gone to the world series last year and again mike sirocco back and they're going to be there. Pitching has been upgraded with charlie morton. So gonna say there were cheese. Can't believe believe degree with buster on all this mets changes everything. Buster is not a surprise they got in without giving up a major piece to their teams and even though they lost out on springer they're not don making their moves. They still have one more thing to do would be our could be somebody else. I can't believe that. Steve cohen's gonna look around with a chance to take on the yankees head and not one more thing so i think those are my five. I just have a slightly different order that you yeah and the mets. Apparently in their bidding on springer went to about one hundred twenty five million. They weren't close. I think to get him that they would have had to of the blue jays out of the water. Maybe go to one. Seventy five george springer from what i understand got very comfortable. The idea playing toronto is the process. Went along here We opened the show today. The sad news about don sutton. I grew up a huge dodger fan. He was the ace pitcher. You could always rely on. He was the workhorse he was. The guy would take the ball all the time and i loved him as a broadcaster. Tim has he would tell you exactly what he thought. Oh he was a great broadcaster. Great but use an even better pitcher. I mean lesser is. We know siahaan nolan ryan. The only pitchers ever to make more starts than that said. He's the only pitcher ever to make thirty or more starts in twenty different seasons. No one's ever down that reform. Look at the guys today. We consider them workhorses when they make thirty starts. He didn't en- twenty years. He was the first pitcher to strike outs hundred or more batters in twenty consecutive seasons not to mention take the ira take the winds. Take the strike outs or five other pitchers in history that can match those numbers and i really bothers me when people say someone is a compiler and he just didn't. He was good enough to take the ball for a team every day. For twenty every fifteen for twenty three years. He's not an overrated pitcher to me. Easing underrated pitcher and as far as broadcasters. Go buster. I love to talk to him because it was. It was no filter without side. But here's the key buster. He wasn't an angry pitcher who said everything was better in mind as he wants. Told me about greg manage while he's tomor in greg maddux as a broadcaster who said greg maddux is everything i ever wanted to be in a pitcher. But i wasn't. I wasn't good. That's how great greg maddux is and it was for for don sutton to knowledge something like that. Just speaks to his. Not only his respect for matic's but his respect for the people who came before him and the people that came after. I was reading the new york. Times obituary written by my former teammate. Rich richard santa mayor And he had a great description of sutton wild growing up. Dad was a sharecropper in alabama And while growing up his goal was not to become a superstar pitcher. That wasn't what he envisioned he just envisioned to to becoming somebody that could be relied upon and nobody was relied upon more than him During his career in baseball buster one of the great days if not the greatest day in the history of the orioles. The greatest weekend was spoil by don sutton remembering eighty two. The orioles won three games in a road yet to sunday tied. And now it's don sutton against jim palmer. In one of the great finally matchups in baseball history to haul famers rob indiana two homers off of jim palmer to win that game but don sutton was the winning pitcher in that game and then should never be lost on anyone especially all those breweries yesterday. Jim palmer tweeted out a picture of a bottle of wine. That don sutton gave them any said. I've never opened it since you gave it to me. And i never will a open and he said goodbye to his old friend. Temp good to talk with you again. Congratulations against buster. Was one of the great days of my whole life and for all out there. Grandfather there's are millward subscriber numbers gay rulings as a reporter and her producer l. Dot com sarah. Thanks for joining us on video. I'm looking at the wall behind you. I'm sorry i think after we seen with leslie jones commenting out of her room on social media. I'm looking at the blank wall. And i know you probably have some cool stuff to put on your wall i do. I would not do well either. Room raider who. I feel like has gone viral on social media during all of this but i do. I'm staring at like a junk. Carlos stanton bobblehead across the room. I have a about the star wars bobblehead a giants world series champions hat. But it's they don't have anywhere to set it up. That would be behind me. But i'm working on it. There will be a solution within a month. I'm guaranteeing that at this point. I feel like you need to have like a massive. Mets logo would be appropriate for your favorite team or something with the giants in honor of your mom. Yeah i mean in my old apartment. I had some stuff set up. I think i had some rally towels and everything else but it was all like behind the tv. Then if you sit in front of the tv. You've weird reflections thing going on when it's off i've thought through this a lot over the last ten twelve months. How how long have we been doing this by now. So one day. I will figure it out soon. So the last thirty six hours have been really difficult in baseball since the jeered porter story when you saw that story. What was your initial reaction. My initial reaction was you know very upset of course i. I consider myself pretty. Lucky that i really haven't had any interactions in my time working in baseball working in sports that have been Anywhere close to that level. Really nothing that has made me that level uncomfortable whatsoever. But i know that. I'm lucky in that respect and i know we know what types of things go on. It was a prevailing sentiment on twitter. That nobody was necessarily surprised at exactly. The content of everything despite maybe initial surprise at who the individual was. And i i certainly understand that. Just from conversations with friends women who are beat. Reporters in in more source driven type roles than me but the most heartbreaking thing to me was just the fact that this woman essentially left the industry. Because of all of this. I i really couldn't get over that for a while and talking to friends. I mean it's just so disappointing upsetting and you wonder about you. Know young women who are considering getting into this field and if seeing something like that might deter them. And i really hope that it wouldn't. I this is an awful thing and these things do happen but there are so much good and there's so much good to working in this industry in there are so many good people and it's not every single day every single moment so i just hope that if there are any young women who are considering giving up on their dreams because of something like this they can have some faith in the institution the infrastructure that things will get better cut it. We are working on a better future for them along those lines when you talk about infrastructure one thing i mentioned jessica does i mentioned tim curtin. I really feel like that. Baseball could use a more defined infrastructure to deal with situations like this for example. I'm sure this reporter who i who i haven't spoken with probably was not aware of a person to call a number to call somebody to deal with it. It's pretty clear from her description of events that she was just Really struggling with how to respond. And i think that has to be made absolutely clear as we move forward by organizations by major league baseball by anybody under baseball's umbrella of course. And i think that goes for so many so many institutions. It's not even just baseball or even just sports. I think that in certain cases you're aware of hr but you don't know exactly how to contact them. And i think with baseball with reporting especially when you are just straight up being a reporter like that your day to day is the press box in the clubhouse during normal times when it's so autonomous and you don't really have any higher power uber boss you've been editor but you don't really have someone that you feel like you're going to in that way so i do think that that's an issue that women and anyone who feels any sort of abuse or issues in the workplace run into and i think that it really does go beyond specifically baseball just to the idea that people need to be supported and know what those resources are. I think that could certainly be clear. I would love to see baseball. Put a high profile woman in that job in baseball. Like this is to make a big deal out of it you know. Make an announcement This person and i'm You know i'm thinking of someone like gene aftermath of the yankees. Who has that type of presence. You know she's assistant general manager of the yankees were. Everybody knows okay. If something happens this issue you can reach out to and to have some support. You know one of the questions. That just drove me crazy yesterday. And i saw it on all media platforms inevitably asked by men. Why did it take so long for her to report. I give me a break. What was your reaction when you heard that. Yeah exactly what you just said. I mean that's honestly that's the question we always see when there's these kinds of stories and it's one of the most maddening parts to may because people who are asking that question have never been even remotely in the type of situation that would lead to this kind of story or anything else and part of it is as you're saying maybe something infrastructure wise where you don't know who to go to and part of it is the fear that she discussed a you know bringing dishonor to her country into herself and losing her job and everything else so to question why anything took so long to me as just so so senseless. Honestly i mentioned tim. There's no easy segway to go from what happened. You're talking about baseball. I wanted to talk about some baseball when you The blue jays make The big moves yesterday. George springer wait and see if they also invest michael brantley Assume that you know that the brantley winds up the blue jays just for argument's sake among the other teams which teams you think on most pressure. Right now gimme three teams under the most pressure to make deals so thinking of just three is honestly pretty hard these days. Because we've seen a pretty slow season developing. Obviously we did get a a couple of moves last night. Even in addition to spring are so hopefully there is some momentum. Picking out. But the i team that pops to mind to me and it's been the team for the last few offseasons now is the angels. I mean i just. We need to see mike trout not just get to the playoffs because maybe the roster they have right now might get them there because their division so weak but we need to see them go deep in the playoffs and he is not getting any younger. And this constantly stresses me out of lake trout really not going to win a world series. I don't want him on that list. They've made some additions. Obviously they did sign. Jose can tana reportedly last night. he's projected for four three or higher era depending what projection system. You're using so to me. That doesn't really feel the pitching it. It adds some innings because the rotation online right now on the angels website lists three pitchers as their rotation so it does fill at least a bit of a void there. But i do think that. They need a better pitcher whether it's via trade or in free agency obviously trevor. Bauer is still available. So they're the first team that pops to mind and it is related to the blue jays and is related to the move that happened with george springer officially leaving the astros because i think that the ale as scott significantly worse the that as are probably going to win not division but i i think there are pretty flood team especially without liam hendriks without marcus i mean without really anybody at second base so if the angels can get another starting pitcher i think that they could potentially win that division even easily Another team came to mind to me. It's not one specific team is literally anybody in the nfl central. If you look at the projected standings on fan graphs right now. The best and al central team is projected to be the brewers with a four ninety. Nine winning percentage. I triple check that of like. Who did i miss. I did not miss anybody. I we've seen that. The cubs are obviously more in selling. Mode the brewers aren't really a team to add big name players Lately and the red sort of did their winning the offseason thing last year. But somebody has to do something. Because you know it's looking like the nfl less than the mid-2000s when like the padres won't with like a five hundred winning percentage. And i i don't want that to happen And the other team that came to mind to me is the phillies only. Because they're in the situation where which we have with the yankees until a couple days ago when they signed detail Where we're all kind of expecting. Jt utah to end up there. But he hasn't yet and without that they're not competing with the mets and braves. Yeah the one hundred percent. In fact. I wondered if when dave dombrowski met with the phillies ownership before he took over that job at the conversation was look we either have to spend money to try to keep up with these other teams. The where the braves are where. The mets are the nationals. Who the champions last full season. And if you're not gonna do that then we need to sell. And we need to retool we but you can't sit in the middle and not do anything You know it's funny. You mentioned that the national central. I look at that division and again You know the cubs made their decision to cut back. But i feel like if the cardinals don't win the division there should be an investigation like with you know what i mean like. They have the resources they're they're a strong in relatively strong financial position. They know that whenever the stadium gates open. That place is going to be filled with all those great fans wearing red Red jerseys arnold jerseys and with jack flaherty the good players they have they should win that division absolutely and i think that you know when i make picks for divisions in a couple of months here i'll probably pick them to win an all central and i think they're always the right pick in a year where you're not sure about the division because it always ends up being the cardinals with their depth with their next man up and everything else but you know and the difference between them and What the brewers are predicted to do like a couple percentage points. I'm sure that's based on expectation of bounceback for christian. Yelich may be more than anything else. But i i do think that the cardinals probably win that division. You know there's some productions of a pretty good season for dylan carlson which was definitely put them. Maybe in a different ushl on. But it's just tough to look at that division where we were expecting a dynasty who a few years and then it looks like we might be expecting you know two great team that looked like the birds might be almost up there with the cubs for a couple of years there you know maybe a two year span and then here we are with no team projected to be about five hundred all right so it's always great talk with you and you're going to be part of and i think we're going to be able to send out zoom link on this. You're going to be part of a hot stove panel that we're going to have On saturday january thirtieth at about seven. Thirty yourself and gala car director player personnel for the dodgers all he drake This is something we do at my old high school every year. And you've done it with us for three or four years. So i look forward to that. Yeah i'm really looking forward to thank you for having me as part of that's always a lot of fun to just talk baseball. You know at the end of january with you guys. So i love eggs era. England is the manager of the san diego padres and lead them back to the playoffs for the first time since two thousand six with what they accomplished in two thousand and twenty and jay's what a fun off season for you guys after a great season tell me about how your communicate they j preller your boss. Is you guys go through this offseason of making a lot of moves and trying to be aggressive and getting better. Now we're in You know communication all the time. Aj and in his front office crew and The player development scouting crews put us in Such a great position to be able to make some mix exciting move. So we're excited about going forward. You know for sure. And and even more impressive you know with the moves baseball. America was it a couple days ago. Release the you know the top hundred prospects in an after all the moves we made you know from Obviously this offseason even starting at the trade deadline last year with cleven jer nolan companies. South rosenthal the that that crew that came in you know it's it's really nice to happen. You know seven of the top one hundred prospects still the day. And that's you know that's hats off to the The the organization on a lot of fronts Certainly the front office. But also the the the development crew down there in the scouting groups on On all sides so jay and you're right to point out that this flurry movement by the padres didn't just start this offseason like last year before the trade deadline in the year the pandemic a lot of teams holding back resources be concerned and you guys were incredibly aggressive. Tell me about the first time you got a sense. That was going to be the case. I think it was probably a couple of weeks before The trade deadline last year We were playing good baseball We felt that we got a pretty good core crew That that is coming together. Age wise And you know so. So i sense that We making moves for two thousand and twenty one year deal. We were we. Were looking to build something special. And so That's what the move's have been behind and you look at the majority of the moves. They're not one year deals There were looking for for the right type guy to be with the team to three four plus years And that's That's been the philosophy going for this. Offseason was the first time you heard the name. Snell in connection with you guys I don't know maybe a month month and a half before the the trade happened but with that being said There's a lot of names thrown out In in every year certainly in the offseason That there's a lot of scenarios that that that are thrown out so winded. I think it it. It had a chance to be real You know maybe maybe three weeks or so before the trade happen. What you remember about when you officially get the either the tax through the cough may jason. Hey we got it done. We got it done I remember just kind of laughing. And smiling i i. I was talking with him on the phone and and You know a lot of things will kind of lined up behind that so You know there there. There are other moves going on You know as well so you know. We quickly. You know not a lot of time to celebrate you. You know you kinda you move onto the next one and and keep going but a lot of excitement for sure. Tell me about your. Because i know you know managers these days a lot of communication with their own players or text. Your with your players is these things are going on at your hearing from different guys. Yeah i think on on that one particular you know. There was a pretty good text line going now with the myself. A couple of players couple of the coaching staff and and then the news broke a lot. A lot of people were were were were hitting out but i think overall there was a lot of excitement. Most importantly a lot of excitement for our players as Not that we need a ton of motivation to start getting ready but i think a little extra adrenaline shot helps getting ready for spring training right. What's the dynamic now between the padres and the dodgers. I was one of my great regrets. This year's not being able to go to ballparks travel as much as weeding get firsthand that first taste of dodgers padres you know because the way teams are going. That might be the best rivalry in terms of competition. Going baseball right now. I think. I think there's a lot of respect and we respect them. Obviously they're the world series champion and made that they've got a hell of a team You know so We're out at about you know getting war or excited about getting down to spring training getting our group together. We got a lot of work That that that needs to be done We've got some ability. We got some guys that can play Some breaks we're gonna need to stay healthy It's going to be our job. We've got to come together As a unit we gotta build some chemistry got to play with one another on the field We think we do that. We think we can play with anyone in the game now. What we saw during the playoffs last year what we started in the regular season between the two teams it was a lot of passion on the field. But as you know better than i ever would before the games. It's a different dynamic. Tell me about like your relationship. With dave roberts for example or members the dodger coaching staff when when guys are taking batting practice before games with the communication with with last year in in particular. There there's not as much overlap or interaction due to The protocols in kobe things like that. But i know there's there's a ton of respect at least on on my side towards them Dave's always been you know. Nice cordial has been one of the first guys. When i got the job that that reached out So i've got a lot of respect. That's really good teams there and You know they're like like i said. There were the class of the game last year when in the world series and and so We're excited to to get on the field. Get our best game already in. And we're excited to plot jason one. Your peers said to me the other day and conversation that fernando tatis junior is the best athlete. He's ever seen on a baseball field. Give me an example of something that jumped out at you that you saw one particular player in a moment where he did something you go. Holy crow I don't know if there's anything in a game because we'd seen so many things in practice. I think Maybe it was At home d When we're playing the astros it looked like a a base. It into shallow left. I think it was a ball drop stepped on went back and kind of went up in the jordan kind of Pose in got up high and and you know caught the ball but Because of the dynamics last year with the season being delayed he was at the the stadium. We were working out With have a basketball goal up on the concourse and so We were doing trick. Shots but I actually went up on a balcony and threw a pass. I don't know fifty sixty feet above him. It bounced and i was trying to get close to the rim. it wasn't that close to the rim. I remember him just taking off in reaction back grabbing it in windmill in almond. I'm like you know and it was on a a put crazy latian rim so as far as you know when you see things like that You know you kinda see move and we will do other things. We'd play soccer. We would not do things During that time. So when it came to was i surprised with anything. No because kind of seen a lot you know before that during the show that john before last year i asked kevin long about one soto who is such an unbelievable player. Too young age. What's the greatest challenge for one so to going forward and he said to keep pushing himself as twenty four. Twenty five as you look at fernandez these junior. What are you see in terms of being his greatest challenges as he gets older. I i i think just continue to grow and and the exciting thing you know for for him is is. He is driven He wants to win. He wants to continue to improve and so A lot of people you know this offseason we were. We were talking. She played winter ball city. Not you know etcetera and You know this guy wanted to play. He wanted to go work on things he had been working on things he'd wanted to test drive some of the things he's been working on in the game in when you kind of think of it that way there's risk in everything we do and we certainly don't want him to to get hurt but i love the drive. I love the challenge of him. Challenging himself in improving and so I think that's most important navy maintains that he's going to continue to grow. I think sky's the limit The the the second thing is just understanding the strike zone and understanding. How guys are going to pitch him. He made huge leaps from two thousand nineteen to twenty. He can can continue to make those leaps inside the strike zone Think you know. He's a he's a potential mvp. I asked apper mother teams about the change in him. And it's interesting because you know us in the media. We love to focus on the big play. The one you mentioned the opposite field home. Run and what i heard. A lot from folks with other teams was no the biggest change in was the boring place the routine plays. They felt like he had much better. Focus from nineteen to twenty. I know you weren't there in nineteen but from your perspective. Did you see that sort of growth. It's really cool to hear you say that because when bobby dickerson sat down with him after reviewing plays from nineteen when when they sit down together In spring training that was the goal was Make the routine player. The boring play And that that was absolutely the goal so when you hear it from an outside source hits it. It's pretty cool to hear last one for you. What it last year mean to you. going over the padres first year managing in the big leagues for you. Personally what was your takeaway. I think just that the environment that that we have You know with the the group of players building those relationships Same thing with the staff Obviously we've made the playoffs. We hadn't done that in a long time As as good as that is we came up short and so now i think we've got Even more hunger to go further to get to the world series and and that's just kind of where it is. I think last year was a great foundation What we've got to build off that foundation and so we've got a lot of hungry guys that are wanting to win a win. It's not easy. Were going to have to sacrifice things going forward And i think we're just excited for the challenge ahead and you guys are going to be must watch tv gay. Thanks for doing this. Buster extra avin me and You take care of your tweets already. Buster bleacher tweets four wednesday. The real quick though. I wanna give the hard sell to the new jalen jacoby. Podcast they do their tv show. Five days a week but now they are doing a podcast exclusive twice a week and i am producing that show. And it's a it's a lot of fun. They got a little more free flowing environment. As you can attest to on a podcast for television show so give them a listen. Absolutely and look. There's a lot of stuff to be excited about right now going on in the nba like the other day. I was sitting down. My son was like we gotta watch. James harden first game with kevin durant. Oh yeah Those games now are kind of must watch for me absolutely and that's because along with the charlotte hornets by the way charlotte hornets in my house. Because my son is orange. Fan that's That's the other thing we watch all the time. Hey they're not terrible either. That's that's not the worst team to why and they're they're doing okay. Their offense is better. You can watch the washington wizards every night. That would be bad they ever played. Let's go to the tweets here. Elizabeth hart at heart tweets writes in linda or signed the day. After last podcast. Lemay you signed the day after your latest. Can you please do more podcasts. More players signed which other big pieces are left on the buster that will inevitably sign tomorrow. Well right exactly. This is going to drop and then. Trevor bauer will sign. I gotta be honest as we look at the the labor land. I don't know where. Trevor bauer is gonna wind up You just don't know if there's a team out there willing to spend the type of money that he might be looking for after a science caliber season. I do think. Jt realmuto is gonna wind up back with philadelphia. Phillies you know. The phillies have been engaged with him lately. They have a strong need there. And i think he's important figure to their fan base next so we got our pow corey. Rupert corey are underscore twelve. He writes in with the epsteins. New gig at major league. Baseball is the job of the commissioner in his future. And now now. Here's the deal the the The person who is the commissioner now is essentially a lawyer for the owners It is a big advocate for owners. I think a lot of fans casual fan sort of view. The commissioner's office being down the middle. That has not been the case in spain. Vincent was forced out and bud ceiling took over. You know since bud took over for a while is the interim commissioner. The commissioner clearly is in the camp of the owners. And that's the way it's going to be going forward. And i can't see theo ever fully embracing a position like that or maybe even being offered it all right last one for today are pal cameron. Black at blind underscore. Qb he writes in for the season starts. I always like to read a piece of nonfiction baseball literature. What would you recommend in what would be on your baseball reading list. Before a season starts. I always say lords of the realm john. Hell yards great book about ownership in baseball about the business baseball Look at came out in the early nineties but they're just so many funny anecdotes about owners in about players about all time great players. It's hilarious book and if you want to know Partly the reason why we are where we are where this massive gulf between the players association and major league baseball. Just read that book and you'll understand why there you go cameron. Thanks for writing in everyone. Hashing bleacher tweets on twitter. Please subscribe to rate and review this podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts. Thanks everyone might. Thanks today to jessica mendoza to jayce tingler to sarah lancaster. Tim kurkin thanks for listening. Everybody stay safe and remember hating inequality based on skin color something. We need to fight against every single day. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. Podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus. Podcast checkout all podcasts at espn dot com slash pod center. Baseball night the podcast.

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"Live from news. Eighty eight seven in. Houston i'm eddie robinson. As vaccine supply the houston region lags behind demand. Local health authorities are trying to coordinate vaccination efforts vaccine appointments for the public are all booked through january and our health reporter. Sara will earn explains what to expect in the months ahead over the past few weeks houston health department. In harris county public health heaven vaccinating members of the public in group one b but overwhelming demand means that all available appointments often get booked up in less than an hour houston health authority. Dr david purse says to keep checking the county and city websites but it will likely be this way until supply increases. Your current challenges is shorter vaccine. And they say that trying to throw the federal government too much under the bus. But it's really don't know exactly when we're gonna get help much so if we have better clarity that it would make scheduling but let easier for everyone involved. Houston health department is now working on a landing page with sign up links to all local providers which has expanded from three in harris county to six this week and says the federal government estimates that vaccine access at places like pharmacies will likely come in april. Or may i'm sorry. We'll ernst in houston. Meanwhile walter hall park out and league city has been close to the public as the county prepares that part to become a potential mask over nineteen vaccination site that's according to officials in the region galveston county judge mark. Henry and local health leaders will be holding a press conference this afternoon. Around one o'clock to discuss those vaccination efforts galveston was not part of the state's vaccine hub. Rollout another mass back at the montgomery county fairground in conroe is expected to open later this morning. It comes after the houston health department ran out of doses over the weekend at minute maid park possibly do to people sharing their appointment. Confirmation numbers jason millsaps staff. The county judge says that folks will be required to show qr codes and identification in order to prevent that kind of situation without the appointment without the qr code or without verification. We would have to turn someone away and we have people that as long as there's a line of cars we help them instruct them on how to get on a waiting list prepared to receive next week's allocation the site opens in about an hour from now and closes around five thirty this evening in other news hall of fame. Pitcher don sutton has died of cancer sutton was best known for his time with the l. a. dodgers but he also pitched for the astros as well as for the brewers the oakland a.'s and the california angels. Don sutton was seventy five years. Old weather forecast here watch for dense morning fog. Be careful on the roadways. For the most part today will be cloudy. There is a slight chance of rain. We can enjoy the mild temperatures. There'll be reaching close to around seventy degrees today right now. Foggy missed fifty nine degrees near hobby. Airport i'm eddie. Robinson news. eighty eight seven support for. Npr comes from i-drive providing cloud backup full system. Backup and onsite.

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 421: Don Sutton Condolences, George Springer Signs, Jared Porter Fired

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GSMC Baseball Podcast Episode 421: Don Sutton Condolences, George Springer Signs, Jared Porter Fired

"Golden state concepts baseball podcasts. We cover everything major league from sprint train to the world series. Got your favorite club. Cover from new york to boston to elan. This is the golden state media. Concepts baseball podcast. Hello and welcome in to another edition of the gsm. See baseball podcast brought to you by the mc podcast network. I'm your host kevin mahalick. It is thursday january twenty first. Hopefully everybody's having a great week out there. We got a great show lined up for you here today a lot to discuss. Unfortunately we're gonna start off with some bad news. Twenty twenty one has started similarly to twenty twenty. And we've had the passing of another hall of fame pitcher don sutton to discuss. But after that. We'll get into george springer new contract with the blue jays. What does that mean for. The blue jays the mets the angels the rest of the free agent market. We then have to discuss some breaking news out of new york. The general manager who was recently hired only about a month ago. Well he has been fired for some explicit photos that we'll talk about what that means for new york and moving forward and then we'll wrap up the episode with all the latest news rumors other signings everything that's taken place out there across major league baseball but thanks for tuning in today like i mentioned rate and review the podcast sheriff's with your friend but let's jump on in so condolences. Go out to the sutton family. Don sutton hall of fame pitcher for the los angeles dodgers playing a total of twenty three seasons across major league baseball and man. It's it's just unfortunate unfortunate to be a dodgers fan right now. Because tommy lasorda passed away a few weeks ago and like i mentioned twenty twenty one not doing us any favors here three weeks into the year but diving into a little bit more information about don sutton. He pitched from the years. Nineteen sixty six through nineteen eighty eight for a total of twenty three seasons. I believe he had one season off in there. If i remember reading correctly but ultimately put together a very very impressive resume with a couple of different tidbits here. That are quite interesting in reference to today's style of game so sutton passed away at the age of seventy five. He was battling cancer and cancer. We all know somebody who has been affected by it. whether it's ourselves our friends our family. We know that flight in that battle aunt it looks like don unfortunately was unable to win that battle here at the age of seventy five but he was inducted to the hall of fame in nineteen ninety eight four time all star. He was also an all star game. Mvp and he has an era title to his name here moving forward but diving into some more statistics and kinda year-by-year. You guys know how i like to do. Some research and talk through these guys careers because you know myself being born in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. Don sutton hung them up right before. I came into this world. So let's see career record. He was three hundred and twenty. Four wins to two hundred and fifty six losses. Now those three hundred twenty four wins obviously puts him in that three hundred win club that everybody likes to get into and only twenty four individuals have ever made it that far so three hundred twenty four wins certainly a great accomplishment. He had a career era of three point. Two six which is certainly fascinating for the number of games that he pitched in as well as started and his game started of seven hundred and fifty six actually puts him third all time on. This game started last. Which i wouldn't have even known don sutton could be on that list. Twenty three years seven hundred and fifty six starts. He is only behind cy. Young and nolan ryan for game started in major league history and another reason why this is so impressive at the seven fifty six mark is because after doing some research don sutton never missed a start in the history of his career literally every fifth day every fourth day whatever it was back in he never missed a star never spent time on the injured list and with the way baseball is nowadays my goodness i if a if a guy makes twenty five out of the thirty five starts it's certainly something impressive nowadays and to never miss a start over the course of twenty three seasons. My goodness is that impressive. With the body with the arm not putting stress on it being able to mick zones mix pitches mix speeds reading reports on what people have to say about sutton and how he was able to manipulate the baseball. But oh my goodness twenty. Three years never missing a start. You know we have guys who missed two years now. Based on tommy john surgery and the timing of the issue and the problems that it causes to the elbow so just a fascinating statistic and i put a couple of exclamations down in my notes just to say wow that is one of the more impressive feats for a guy's career that i can ever remember but going down the list here like i said we'll kind of run through some years some career goals but he had fifty eight shutouts which certainly i found to be impressive as well. Twenty three years meaning. He had about two and a half of those per year. Yeah gosh fifty eight shutouts. That's really impressive. He threw five one hitters. Did not have a no no to his name but five times only gave up one hit throughout the course of the audi and then he had ten to hitters so very very close a number of times fifteen times only given up one or two hits. That's certainly not something to scoff at. But everybody knows how difficult it is to go. No no and a guy like don sutton never missing a start over twenty three years. Getting close is certainly impressive as well but he was seventh innings pitched in the history of major league baseball looking at it here. He's at five thousand two hundred and eighty two innings which again puts him seventh on that list. But one of the other accomplishments. Because you never miss a start. He actually had a streak of two hundred plus innings four twenty straight seasons. He did it from sixty six to eighty six and the only time he missed was actually one thousand nine hundred eighty one but come to find out that this was the strike shortened season of one thousand nine hundred eighty one and had nothing to do with him getting injured or not being able to go deep into ballgames because nineteen eighty one. He actually only had twenty three starts comparatively speaking to forty thirty five. Thirty three of the like going up and down the list here so but two hundred plus innings for twenty straight years. And i think i saw a statistic that showed last year and major league baseball. There were fifteen guys who went two hundred and sutton did it for twenty straight years so that is just absolutely incredible the longevity the success you need to have to be able to do that is certainly fascinating but sutton never won a cy young award. He finished in the top five for five straight years from nineteen seventy two through nineteen seventy six. He finished fifth. Fifth fourth fifth in third in the cy young voting in those years and finishing thirty went twenty one and ten in nineteen seventy six. This was his career high and winds he was able to only reach the twenty win plateau one time in his career. Which again is certainly fascinating for a guy who has over three hundred wins and it shows the longevity in the success of his career that way but total number of strikeouts. Three thousand five hundred and seventy four. Obviously that three thousand mark something to be a very proud of their but that puts him seventh all time on the strikeouts list for the history of major league baseball which again certainly super impressive. But not only when it comes to major league baseball but don sutton. He spent sixteen years with the los angeles dodgers. I mentioned did at the top of today's show. The dodgers unfortunately lost legend tommy lasorda earlier. This month now dealing with the death of don sutton where sutton rinks all time within. The dodgers organization is something that again i would not have guessed because the dodgers history of pitching obviously fantastic. I mean you got don nukem. Sandy colfax drysdale as events earl horsh eiser venezuela going through there. Now recently clayton kershaw. Who's been doing it for years and years. But it's actually don sutton who sits at the top of a lot of these lists for the dodgers sutton. He currently is atop the dodgers. All time wins list with two hundred and thirty three. He's got the most innings pitched for the dodgers with three thousand eight hundred sixteen. He's got the most shutouts fifty. Two of his fifty eight shutouts came while he was wearing dodger. Blue he's got the most strikeouts in dodger history with two thousand six hundred and ninety six and this is the only one that i think he will be passed on here. Soon because clayton kershaw is actually about one hundred and seventy strikeouts behind sutton and could get there in twenty twenty one. But if he doesn't. I certainly think he could pass him in twenty twenty two if he remains with the dodgers and beyond but again if you were like hey dodgers all time wins. Leader ends pitched shutouts strikeouts. Who is it my first second and third guess when not have included don sutton so super impressive when it comes to dodgers history and his career there and it's just fascinating to kind of along but he's been quoted as a very modest guy. He was talking about how you never wanted to be a superstar or one of the highest paid players. All he wanted to be was appreciated for the fact that he was consistent dependable. And you could count on him to take the ball every fifth day so he certainly gobbled that throughout the course of his career but it looks like here he signed with the dodgers in one thousand nine hundred sixty four year before the first major league baseball draft in one thousand nine hundred sixty five. I signed for an estimated. Fifteen thousand dollars and debuted in the rotation only two years later alongside superstars colfax drysdale steam. And you know. He held his own that first year. Striking out two hundred and nine guys. Which was the most by any national league rookie since nineteen eleven. When grover cleveland alexander punched out two hundred and twenty seven so came in right away. found success Was an extremely hard worker. But honestly you know again. Just didn't didn't overpower. You doesn't have the nolan ryan fastball. The sandy colfax curve ball. You know doesn't have that. Pitched i do his name. But because of that he was able to put together multiple pitches and have success throughout the longevity of his career. So streak for him. He struck out at least one hundred hitters in twenty one consecutive seasons. This is only ever been matched by three other guys. Those three guys are roger. Clemens greg maddux and nolan ryan so certainly in fantastic company there when it comes to strike outs and again the longevity of his career so man just a crazy career for don sutton as i continue to dive in here and learn more and more but he also spent time with milwaukee. Houston oakland in the angels as well but of course sixteen years with the dodgers and that's how most people remember him by but after his playing career he actually continued to have success within major league baseball. He was an analyst for the atlanta braves. Both in television and radio for over twenty years upon his retirement so that is where i kinda remember his voice more so than his success on the diamond because growing up a phillies fan. Of course play in the braves all the time they had their tbs broadcasts they were very entertaining and don sutton. He is being quoted in no not to hold anything back when it comes to his opinions and how he believes the game should be played and of course people respected his opinion and how he was able to portray due to the success. He had on the field. But it's just fascinating this guy's career and ultimately what he was able to accomplish. But once again don sutton passes away at the age of seventy five. I believe it was this past monday. If you're listening to this thursday here on the twenty-first i appreciate it. But certainly once again cancer winning that battle with don sutton and if you've ever been affected by cancer out there it's not fun and can certainly be scary so condolences go out to the sutton family but again it's just fascinating as i continue to dive into these gentlemen's careers and learn. Just man it's i opening. Sometimes the difference in the game of baseball from the sixties the seventies eighties. Until now you know. Like i mentioned two hundred innings for twenty straight years and now we got guys thirteen fourteen dies. Only you know are able to do it here. During the course at twenty twenty so the game continues to evolve but legends. Like don sutton rest in peace once again condolences to the family out there moving forward here but that'll do it for the first segment of the mcc baseball podcast brought to you by the mc podcast network What we're gonna do now here in the upcoming segment george springer. He finally made a move. I told you guys last episode. I thought he'd be heading to the mets that kind of aligned with what they were trying to accomplish well. Toronto blue jays came in and to quote the godfather made him an offer. He couldn't refuse and now. George springer is taking his talents to canada. And what is fascinating development here for the off season. But we'll step aside here for a word from one of our sponsors and one of our sisters shows and we'll discuss everything george springer when we come back stick around everyone. This is your ultimate staffer. Everything sports the golden state media concept's or podcast. Should i say more from the nfl. Mlb the nba two mma. It's all in here. 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Like we said george springer port reports are that he is signing with the toronto blue jays a six year one hundred and fifty million dollar contract going out to george to head to toronto. This would be the largest contract in blue jays history and only the second one top six figures or nine figures. I guess is the way to put it in one hundred million dollars. They gave out one in two thousand and six but this is by far the biggest one here to a free agent so six years one hundred and fifty million dollars. That's twenty five million a year out their average annual value. And you know it was a better than the mets deal according to sources yes. The mets came in they both were offering that six year contract which was kind of fascinating to myself. I thought they would want to keep it in that five year range at most with springer coming off his age thirty one season you know he'll be thirty two by the next year which puts him at age. Thirty seven for the life of this contract still making twenty five million a year but six years they were able to get him one hundred and fifty million like i said the mets came in right around one twenty to one twenty five according to reports so basically the met said. Hey we'll give you twenty million a year and then the blue jays came in and we're like okay. Well we're gonna give you a twenty five million a year and the other reason why this is a big deal Now as of this moment here in january we don't know exactly where the blue jays will be playing their games in twenty one due to corona virus in this strict travel restrictions of canada in regards to coming in and out of the country and originally. If you are in canada there are a bit of taxes and money complications. Similarly to the difference between new york and florida when it comes to state tax and how that affects contracts. Well same thing internationally. So the blue jays rafted. We're going to have to come in a little bit. Above wherever anybody in america to ultimately have george make the same amount of money but springer is obviously a stud. He was one of the top two to three free agency. This offseason three time off star world series. Mvp world series winner two time silver slugger even during the season here. He led the team with fourteen home. Runs thirty two and more importantly his postseason. Statistics are fantastic and something that is going to be very welcomed in that toronto clubhouse because in toronto they have a very young ball club next. Step a lot of the kids in the infield and they like springer to come in and kind of. Show them professionally. Hey this is how it goes. This is what you need to do. And this is how you get it done. Because he's been to the playoffs every year since two thousand seventeen and even five out of six fifteen yes sixteen no and then seventeen eighteen. Nineteen and twenty. Of course the the astros have made it send at least made a run for a couple of rounds there so career to sixty nine hitter in the playoffs. He but he does have nineteen home runs in only sixty three games so he is certainly not adverse to the big moments in even this past year here in twenty twenty he had four home runs in only eleven games so it was a nice run for george in the post season. But what does this do for the blue jays. You know kind of. Where does this take us here. And it's fascinating because there's a couple of different reports out there that they are still pursuing. Michael brantley who is a good buddy of george springer there actually represented by the same agency. But i i would think they would be done here in the outfield. Because if you're looking at a potential starting lineup. You got springer in center field. At second base bisharat short you have hernandez says the designated hitter role because again springer kind of gives them four solid outfield. There's going to have to move to the d. h. role and based on defensive metrics. It certainly seems that springer is gonna play centerfield because he had. I believe it was six and a half run saved or d. r. s that. They liked to call it here in the blue jays as a whole in the outfield last year. We're at a minus seven so springer automatically makes them better in sanur maybe later in his career he can move to one of the corners but for now like i said i got hernandez moving from left to the d. h. role. We're gonna put gurriel junior out there and left. Keep greig checkout and right field and then put springer in center. But you're one through nine here this lineup of springer busy. Oh bischette hernandez guerrero tellez guri. L. greene chicken. Janson is a deep solid lineup and there is some balance. Righty lefty busy. Oh and tell us are from the left handed side so it'll be fascinating to kind of see if toronto is able to continue to compete with the big boys because things are happening in the american league. I gotta be honest with you. There's a ton of movement happen in the al on the national league side of things. It certainly seems like it's only been the padres in the mets who have joined the party so far but on the american league side. I mean we have the white sox make it a ton of moves that we we've discussed now. You have toronto joining the party. We had the yankees just recently bringing back. Dj lemay hugh so it is kind of fascinating to follow along and see here. The cat and mouse game. You know that's taken place when it comes to make moves in trying to stay relevant in the american league east and The the blue jays had themselves a day because not only did. They signed george springer reports of signing george springer once again this is pending a physical down in florida springer's headed to their spring training facility down there to complete his physical but that all goes smoothly like they anticipate he will be a member of the blue jays and moving forward so but like i said here the blue jays themselves a day because they also signed former padres closer. Kirby yates to a one year deal. This deal is worth a guaranteed five point five million dollars but with performance bonuses. That can go all the way up to ten million dollars so the blue jays adding a piece to the bullpen. Along with yates. They also added reliever tyler chat. Would to a little bit of a lesser. Deal that one kind of went under the radar but chat would if he bounces back and finds himself and we know. Relievers are extremely volatile year to year when it comes to their success. And that's why the guys who are able to continue to dominate are really looked at as special but i mean a couple of years ago. Kirby yates you could argue. That he was one of the best relievers in baseball. I mean san diego two thousand eighteen twenty nineteen. He had sub two five year as both of those years. Strikeout rates of thirty six and forty two percent to walk rates of only six and five so strikeout-to-walk ratio certainly fantastic and twenty twenty. Yates was bit by the injury bug. He had some bone chips in his throwing elbow. Which limited him to under five innings. And you know it's kind of hard to dive into any more moves here but man. If yates is able to bounce back they get this offense. Go in toronto with the rotation of reu- and pearson and a couple of other young guys. They got coming up. Toronto could be a sneaky team in the american league. In honestly they surprise people in twenty twenty. So i think here in twenty twenty one we could be in for a little bit more of the same. But what does this do for the rest of major league baseball. I mean here we are. we're about to tick into february and one of the big three has finally signed. So where does this take us. Elsewise well again. The mets were in on george springer. So we'll take our attention there and say okay. Well where do they go next because clearly offering twenty million dollars. They think they still have money to spend while. Still being able to extend michael conforto and francisco lynn door. So it'd be interesting if they turn their attention onto the internal guys or if they're still looking to add a piece from the outside because they the move at the catching position so it's not going to be real mutual which means the really the only other big fish for them is trevor bauer. And it does seem with the moves they've made bringing incorr- lasko bringing back stroman on a qualifying offer that they are happy with where their rotation is so. I think this transitions them. Out of the free agent market and back into the trade market in new york in the one name. I can think of here that could potentially be on. The list is kris bryant and twenty million a year for springer. Mets anticipated that brian. I think is gonna make about nineteen and a half here in twenty twenty one so those salaries aligned to what the mets were trying to accomplish. And that's really the only guy who i think could still be on their radar. Moving forward here to make a move but okay so the mets. They're out on the our real mutoko sweepstakes. Well let's talk. Jt real mutoko here. It came out last week. We talked about it on mondays episode that the phillies offered him. I believe it was a five year deal just north of one hundred million dollars and it has been truly fascinating to see. Real mute does markets kind of continued to develop and not really develop at the same time. I'm mean again. There were talks that he wanted thirty million a year. Twenty five million one hundred fifty one hundred and eighty and you know the phillies. Who for once seemed to have their finger on the pulse here and get things right because they're going no jt that you're not getting that on the free agent market so we're not going to give that to you before you get there and everybody in philadelphia was so upset that they were going to allow him to test free agency. Bryce harper screaming outside. Jt in an empty ballpark after he hits a home run where management can clearly hear him. They recently signed archie bradley. who tweets out. One of the first things is signed. Jt kinda fascinating to see how that interaction has taken place but it does seem to be that the phillies are really the only big time player left for real mutel. He was tied to toronto. But with this recent deal that money has of gone elsewhere there's been conversations around the nationals. Potentially but if you're looking at teams in teams willing to give him big money it certainly seems that all signs are pointing back to philadelphia for jt and now it's just a matter of if he's going to be content getting twenty one twenty two million a year for a five year. One hundred ten million dollar deal. But if springer in the mets they had him right around twenty and he's at twenty five. I would put jt kind of one tier right below that. So i think twenty two twenty two is where is market is in his fair value for jt. So it'll be fascinating to see if over the next forty eight hours if he jumps in here and dust signs on the dotted line very similarly to springer but the last of the big three of course is trevor. Bauer i myself i think. I predicted monday that he would head to toronto. But this doesn't seem to be the case anymore with george springer signing so now the leader in the clubhouse for him i certainly believe is on the west coast. The la angels are one of the few big name could potentially be involved and this could change the thinking of trevor bauer potentially right so there were conversations earlier in the off season. Is he looking for a long term. Commitment with big dollars Short term commitment with big dollars and betting on himself once again. Because if he's willing to kind of come down to that one to two year mark it's certainly allow his suitors to open up teams like the dodgers could be involved at that point. I wouldn't rule out the padre who continue to make moves and even on the east coast the yankees the mets. I think they'd certainly be more interested in a two year. Seventy million dollar deal than five and one fifty or whatever. Those numbers come out to hear. But hopefully we're going to have some traction and some movement here sooner than later across the free agency market because george springer one of the first domino's to fall and like i mentioned here kind of puts everything else into place in changes the probabilities on where these other guys end up but shadow to george springer. I've met george a couple of times. He was always a fantastic individual super nice. Very clever funny witty guy. And wishing him the best in from everything. I've heard around the clubhouse. That's certainly has echoed across major league baseball so george springer taken his talents up north to the toronto blue jays. Six years one hundred fifty million. He's the first one of the big three to sign. What does this mean. I think it means. Jt's headed back to philadelphia and it certainly means bowers looking like he said at out west to be part of the la angels but nothing set. Those are personal preferences or personal thoughts. I'm not reporting anything out here so you guys will have to continue to stay tuned to the gsm. See baseball podcast. And we'll keep you guys up to date on everything going on across major league baseball here but that'll do it for the second segments. I appreciate you guys listening. We'll step aside here now for a word from one of our sponsors in one of our sisters shows but when we come back we'll discuss the rest of the free agent market. There were a handful of signings under the radar not as high level. But things are starting to kind of fizzle you know. The hot stove is starting to bubble not quite boiling yet but starting to bubble so stick around everybody. I'm kevin mallik. we'll be right back. Tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searched. 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We'll keep you up to date on everything going on major league baseball and the other will keep you up to date with everything pretty much in the world. Obviously inauguration is happening. So there's a lot to talk about a lot to share with you guys and a ton of things to discuss but if you haven't checked those out yet head over to social media please do so i certainly appreciate it but here in segment number three. We're going to dive into the rest of the moves that have taken place across major league baseball. We obviously discussed the big three in the last segment with trevor bauer. Jt rail mutoko george springer all coming towards the finish line when it comes to deals here but there were a handful of moves made elsewhere as well as a ton of rumors and notes to discuss with you guys but the first one i want to start out with his left handed starting pitcher jose kintana. He signed a one year. Eight million dollar deal with the la angels. According to a source this is pending a physical but seems to be done. This reunites quintana with manager. Joe maddon who managed him from twenty seventeen to twenty nine thousand nine hundred chicago cups. Quintana 's career. Era of three seven three over the course of nine seasons i was an all star. Twenty sixteen so he. He only had one start last year. He was cut short due to a cut or laceration on his left thumb. His pitching thumb during the summer camp or spring training to point out which limited him to ten innings and. That was the first time he had really missed some time. Due to injury because for the seven years prior he had at least thirty starts in over one hundred and seventy innings so for the angels. This was certainly a a welcome asset an attractive quality for quintana because they had trouble basically getting innings from their starting pitcher. They only had one guy last year or in two thousand. Nineteen with last. Full season reached one hundred innings so can figures into a rotation that also includes dylan. Bundy potentially shohei otani. You got griffin canning andrew haney but the angels still could potentially be in on trevor. Bauer like we discussed in. Ultimately you throw bauer quintana bundy and otani and all of a sudden. The angels are certainly a lot better on paper than they were just a year ago. So wait and see if you're an angels fan but it was certainly a nice. I move in an improvement to the rotation to bring in quintana next on the list. Here we have john. Lester lester recently. Signed a one year five million dollar option or excuse me five million dollar contract with a twenty twenty two option for both the nationals lester. It's a mutual option. And i mean this is a solid signing for the nationals. When you look at their rotation they got the top three of scherzer's strasbourg corbin. And then you mix in some john. Lester is the four number five. And that's kind of where he fits at this point of his career. He's kind of coming on the back nine now last couple of years. He's thirty seven years old. He's recently had some velocity drop so he's no longer that front end starter but he is certainly somebody who knows how to pitch and knows how to win has had playoff success both in boston and chicago. So it'll be fascinating to see if he can kind of filter into that four and five slot and potentially watch stats tick up a bit. But when it comes to the velocity talking strictly for seem. I mean all the way back in twenty sixteen. He was at about ninety three miles an hour and this has dropped every year since then to wear. Twenty twenty was the first year. He averaged just under ninety so lester certainly needs to kind of reinvent himself almost for third time here. Work off speed pitches because he's not going to be overpowering anymore with this stuff there in the low nineties high eighties. But it's an interesting kind of projection for him. People have him yara around five based on some fan graphs and things like that but once again in that. Four or five role. When you're coming up behind strasbourg sherzer in corbin. The pressure's a little bit less for less. They're there in washington. So i think that's a good fit for the nationals. As they boost that pitching staff that carried them all the way to the world series not too long ago and twenty nineteen so the national certainly got better as well. We also had a trade to discuss. The pirates traded pitcher joe. Musk grove he was the highlight of the deal to the padres in a three team deal. That sent pitcher. joey luke. Chessy to the mets so the pirates received back pitcher david benner and four minor leaguers notably outfielder. Hudson head. is the one going back to pittsburgh. But must grove is a very underrated talent. I mean and the padres just continue to load up on the rotation. I mean clubbing. You're still out. But all the other additions. They traded for darvish. They traded for snell and how they trade for months grove so they are absolutely going for it and these are the names that continue to be impressive. I mean when you're looking at two. Musk grove compared to some of the other top pitchers in the big leagues. There were only ten starters who had a whiff rate or a swing and miss rate of at least fifty percent on any specific pitch type in twenty twenty now. The minimum here for this graph was twenty five pitches so but there were only two starters who had multiple within that so ten starters but only two of the ten had two different pitches with a whiff rate of at least fifty percent. Those two names number one american league cy young winner shane bieber and number two. You guessed it. Joe must growth of the pittsburgh pirates. Joe had his curveball as well as his slider both above that fifty percent mark so his off speed is certainly extremely above average. And this is something that If you're into analytics or sabermetrics you kind of see this stuff and your eyes light up. Because you're thinking man. If he could throw those more often he could control those. Get ahead in the count. This guy is going to be extremely difficult to hit against and with that lineup. Offensively in san diego. He said certainly have more run support. Then he's had in pittsburgh in quite some time so you know. Put him in the rotation up there man at a padres the nationals. Everybody getting better on the national league side when it comes to the rotation and moving forward but if you're the pirates why would you do this you know what are you looking for here and it's kinda fascinating and that's you know they. They don't see themselves as contenders and musk. Grove has two years remaining on his deal and within that window. They don't fancy themselves speed able to win the division so they moved on for. Some prospects got a couple relievers outfielders. That were three four five years away from potentially contributing at the big league level but based on pittsburgh's actions and what they have done so far. This timeline aligns with when they believe they can be competitive. And it'll be interesting another rebuild in pittsburgh. They made the playoffs there for a couple of years and now they find themselves starting over here once again but the padres they just continue to improve. And i'm certainly going to have a lot of fun watching those guys play ball here for pretty much the entirety of the summer. So that's it for the hard moves. The hard signings now a transition into the rumors that are heading out there. Let's see here actually just popped out here on the twentieth at the blue jays are also signing outfielder michael brantley. Even though they just signed george springer there are also adding michael brantley. Who is very good friends with george. It looks like he's agreed to a three year deal with the blue jays. This would certainly pencil him in to kind of that designated hitter spot there that we had talked about could potentially go to hernandez in the last segment. But i believe toronto will probably move. One of those younger outfielders. Tried to get some prospects back. But if you put brantley in the middle of that lineup springer at the top of that lineup like we sat around but and all those other guys man the blue jays certainly having themselves a day here in the last forty eight hours because it had just popped up my timeline. That michael branly will indeed sign with the blue jays pending a physical and these are of course sources still to this point but that does seem to be picking up steam here moving forward next up. The boston red sox. What's going on in boston. Well they quote remain high end quotes on kiki hernandez of the los angeles dodgers. Mlb networks. john. Hayman reported on twitter. Wednesday that the red sox are still very interested but he also noted that the new york mets are having conversations with hernandez is well. Kiki was one of the top utility men in the league and has a ton of versatility. Infield options outfield options. And the red sox are looking to upgrade on the Second base position with dustin pedroia. No longer call in that space home. So they're looking to add hernandez here in could get a little bit busy in the near future. If you're in boston because not a lot stake in place up there. I know the fans are starting to get a little bit antsy but here in the past few days. We've heard that. Boston could be involved in a handful of moves and as recently as a couple of days ago. Boston traded their fourteenth ranked prospect to the phillies. Cj chaffin who was a shortstop second baseman for a player to be named later now initially the philadelphia market thought. This could be the start of an andrew benintendi trade but it did seem to kind of come together on its own where it was just a one off deal because multiple reports out there say the red sox are open to trading him and there are multiple clubs interested in acquiring him but there has been said quote the asking price from at least one of the teams involved a younger corner outfielder along with a minor league pitcher not necessarily on the forty man roster so if they move benintendi they're looking for a younger piece kind of up and coming a little bit more potential as well as a lottery ticket arm that could potentially be added to the deal so the boston sports journal listed the astros athletics pirates as teams. That could be involved. There's also been communication around the rangers. The reds in the phillies. Like i mentioned having conversations with high end bloom up there in boston about adding benintendi. So it'll be fascinating to see ultimately what they get from the phillies. They were talking about former number one overall. Pick mickey mony. Ac potentially being moved as at young corner outfielder and then a triple a. arm. Not on the forty man certainly aligns with the reports. That are coming out of boston in what they're looking for in return here so boston could be active in the next week or so. It's one of those will. We will have to stay tuned to everything going on up in beantown. So let's see what else is happening out there as i'm scrolling through. The mets are interested in kiki. We mentioned that the minnesota twins they are interested in potentially bringing back marwin gonzalez. Gonzales was with them the past two seasons. He's now a free agent but they're kind of waiting to see what happens here and people are saying that the twins are now interested in potentially bringing him back. Excuse me gonzales. Sign with minnesota before the twenty nineteen season. He had a nice little run with the houston astros. He he didn't particularly live up to the. You know offense. He put up in houston but he's also a versatile defender he was good for them in spurts. So it'd be interesting to see ultimately if minnesota does bring him back and which move they ultimately make here now. There are a ton of rumors happening across the free agent market as well as the starting pitching market. The dodgers have been linked to brad hand over the past couple of weeks They're said to be in the peripheral of his market kind of lurking in the shadows to see ultimately how it plays out mark feinstein of mlb dot com tweeted. That jeremy jeffers is on the radar of several clubs and there are a handful of them. Here he was formerly of the cubs. Relief pitcher had some success. Those teams named red sox cubs astros. Dodgers mets phillies blue jays nationals. I mean that's pretty much everybody across the board but he had a fantastic twenty eighteen but has been unable to kind of repeat that sense and teams are hoping that they can get him back to that form to other names that have recently thrown in front of scouts during quote unquote showcase very similar to the corey. Kluber situation where annabelle sanchez. As well as julio teheran who is formerly of the atlanta braves there were a number of teams there and the ones that were most notable where the raise twins marlins and mets all looking to add. Potentially starting pitching here at a reasonable cost and sanchez has been linked to the phillies as well due to his time with dombrowski in detroit. And so it'll be kind of fascinating to see ultimately which direction sanchez baharan go here. Moving forward but a ton of rumors. Continue to churn out there. Michael brantley recently signed sear today recording this wednesday nights with the toronto blue jays so toronto making it known in the al. As the race. Got worse the yankees. They stayed the same if knock out a little bit worse and we think it is our time now so shout out to blue jays fans because your team is certainly making moves anticipate and going forward here but that'll do it here for segment number three of the mcc baseball podcast brought to you by the mc podcast network will pause one last time here for a word from one of our sponsors and word from our sister show but when we come back we'll wrap things up in new york mets scandal. Oh boy they need a new general manager. Stick around. we'll talk about it. Want to know the latest and soccer. Listen to the golden state media concepts soccer podcasts from m. l. as the world the premier li. We've got you covered a latest. Update the hottest matches news on the league's top players. It's the golden state media concept soccer. Podcast listen Hello and thanks again for listening to the gsm. See baseball. Podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I'm your host kevin mahalick. Hopefully you guys are having a fantastic week out there. It is thursday january twenty first we are cruising learn along here under a month until spring training reports at the end of february pitchers and catchers even sooner than that. Tim like we talked about it. And episodes past major league. Baseball has let them know. They intend to play a full one. Sixty to stay on time this year. In twenty twenty one the owners wanted to push back but the players let them know that they do not have the right any longer to declare an emergency situation. So we're moving on fast in heavy here as we head onto twenty twenty one but unfortunately for mets fans out there there has been some recent positively growing. You know they added lynn door roscoe. They're still on it in on a few names here in free agency but there was a scandal that recently took place. Where new york's new. Gm jared porter. He acknowledged he sent explicit images to a female reporter back when he worked for the chicago cups so back when he was president of director of professional scouting he then would text a foreign correspondents who had moved to the united states to cover major league baseball before these these texts to ended up not being very professional. And i gotta watch my words here with exactly what happened. But he texted her a ton of times. Fifteen photos sixteen basically getting into the area of jail or male. Genitalia is the way to describe it here so this has come out so only a month or so after. He was hired by the new york. Mets and once this report was filed on monday or the report was released. It was then known that. Tuesday morning the mets fired porter from a tweet from owner steve cohen. Making it official. He said quote in my initial press conference. I spoke about the importance of integrity. And i meant it. There should be zero tolerance for this type of behavior so kind of breaking down the time line of this story these pictures and text messages took place back in twenty six twenty seven and espn obtained the messages back in twenty seventeen. They spoke to the woman who was on the receiving end. But at this point she did not want to go forward with these allegations because she concluded her career could be harmed if the story emerged but in the recent days this woman who has since left journalism and gone back to her home country she continues to speak on the case aminu witty because basically where she's from women's rights and women's empowerment is not where to the level. It is in america so she does not want to get quote dragged through the mud if your name is associated with any type of sexual scandal so she has yet to come out but espn thoroughly vetted. The article did a lot of interviews. There's an extremely well. Detailed well written article. By jeff passan. I believe on espn by jeff. Passan and meena calms the two. Who released the article. Here it goes into quite a bit of detail regarding their texts it actually has copies and images of their texts in porter sending a couple of different images in. Why won't you respond in. Mis knowing you certainly at the end there was the one that crossed the line. The woman did say that she responded back. Finally that this is inappropriate. And crossing the line. And i'm not comfortable. And then the next day he did text. I'm sorry but she goes on to state that she never felt that he actually felt those emotions in was just saying that to ultimately hopefully suv these things over so she continues to be strong and coming out and discussing this but the timing for the mets certainly could not be any worse and i thought that i had with certainly as how do you not find this out. Or how do you not know about this during the hiring process like isn't this part of the vetting process or the background check or multiple different ways while you're check in different sources different references. You know none of this comes to light here. It's just kinda fascinating and sandy. Alderson did speak to this a little bit. He said quote. This is a wakeup call. It clearly suggests something like this can be out there in connection with almost anyone we have to do our best to make sure we know about that information but there are limits to what we can actually get. I don't think this reflects a fundamental flaw in the process. I think this is a very unfortunate circumstance that we wish we knew about but did not end quote so again the mets. I mean you're going through guys you're bringing them up here. I know we all have our kind of individual secrets so to speak. But i feel like something. This large sets kind of outstanding. You could have had a conversation because again. Espn and jeff passan. They had known some of this information. We're continuing to gain this information. All the way back to twenty seventeen so sandy alderson didn't call. Espn didn't call. Jeff passan to kind of say. Hey you know. What have you heard about this guy. What's going on around the league. What's the you know the communication and the back channels. Because i felt like they may have been tipped off to something like this and could have helped them out here. So let's see anderson continued. There really wasn't a voice. So from my standpoint i was shocked. Eventually that gives away to disappointment and a little bit of anger. There's always a risk associated with higher. Read there was no disclosure of this conduct. I don't think we would have hired. Jared if we had known about the conduct before him. Should we have known we did a background check. We asked if there was anything else. We need to know and apparent end quote and apparently porter did not disclose this conduct during the hiring process. And yeah of course porter's knocking himself out during the hiring process. That's part of your responsibility as the team. Who's doing the hiring to be able to dig a little bit deeper an potentially figure out what's taking place so it's just a fascinating circumstance in one of those where once again it does seem a little bit fuzzy but i mean once somebody gets into the position of power you know a story like this comes out just moments later so pass in in mina kimes discussed about this and the timing of this in it had nothing to do with the hiring. It has everything to do with the victim and how she wanted to go about this story and this isn't their story. This is her story so there are multiple different lenses multiple different angles. That you can talk about this but again just as a mets fan you gotta be thinking to yourself. Wow once again. We make a higher and we have to move on from him and you know just a month later. Major league baseball has come out and there was reportedly planning to investigate jared porter bob. Nightingale reported potential punishment could be porter being suspended and requiring reinstatement before working in baseball. Once again so he could be suspended indefinitely until he probably goes through some programs some guidance and ultimately kind of finds himself so major league baseball is certainly not just sweeping this under the rug and they want to find out what happened. Get to the bottom of it and see if they can help. Correct it to make sure something like this doesn't happen again because not only. Is this a black eye on on the new york mets and that organization. But it's also a black eye on major league baseball. I mean being a general manager major league baseball. There's only thirty two of these guys across the lake. So for one of them to come out and kind of be You know man. I don't i don't know the words to say there but just to be ousted a month later is certainly not a good. Look for the new york mets. But what does this mean moving forward for the gm spots. I mean the mets are right where they were about a month ago looking to bring on a gm here but it has been reported that alderson said that the mets will not hire another gm. This offseason they said quotes. I'm very confident in the group. We have that we can move forward and move forward effectively and this is a fascinating subplot because the next step on the list for the offseason was trying to sign francisco lynn door to a long term deal and that is typically the responsibility of the general manager. And now you don't you don't have one of those so as alderson going to be running the baseball operations i would assume so. And he's going to be the one making the decision on lynn door. In which direction they go. And oh my goodness. It just adds a bunch of wrinkles to that side of things moving forward. But you know who would be the leading candidates not only this year but moving into next year of course internally. The front runner would be zach. Scott zach scott was a finalist for the gm job at wound up being hired as assistant general manager under border. So basically that means he's already working in the upper echelon of the mets they could essentially promote him without giving him that title or announcing him as strictly general manager but he could continue to make all of those moves in decisions under alderson scott had spent seventeen years working for the red sox he's become steeped in analytics in that puts him certainly at the top of the list. Moving forward now there are some fans of new york. Who want theo epstein tip potentially come in here now big market team trying to build up. It could be a rejuvenation thing for theo. But he was recently brought on at the commissioner side of things He's working for major league baseball as a whole. And i think it's a nice move because i anticipate theo epstein being the next commissioner of major league baseball i think rob manfred we all know what a horrible job rob manfred is done going back to the astros scandal. The red sox scandal all of this negotiations taking place in just every time. The guy speaks. It feels like he's putting his foot in his mouth. I mean who caused the trophy a piece of metal. You're the commissioner of the league and you're calling its most prized asset. A piece of metal. And you didn't think that any backlash was going to be coming your way. So just fascinating. But theo epstein certainly. He's not going to be making the move from the commissioner side of thing in major league baseball side of things back down to mets general manager. Here in my opinion but a couple of other names we hear. Is billy owens formerly of the oakland athletics. he's been involved with a couple of different stints. he is forty nine years old. He played for seven years in the minor leagues. He's got a scouting background. He's big into blending analytics and scouting in the eye test. And he's certainly done great things out there and oakland and he has a strong background here for a potential candidate. You also have michael hill. Who was interviewing for the phillies general manager position. He spent more than two decades with the marlins. They parted ways after the twenty twenty season even though the marlins had made the playoffs for the first time in a long time with pretty much a rundown roster that nobody had anticipated the playoffs over certainly fascinating. See him go up potentially different direction and ultimately why but you also have john rico who works internally with the mets he could potentially Get promoted it does. Seem like he will be on the team that alderson was talking about with scott and ultimately come to make team wise decisions. You have bobby heck out of the tampa bay rays organization. People have discussed with him that he could potentially move. But you know teams are not dumb. I mean even here in philadelphia when we were looking for. Gm's you look at the teams that don't come from a big market and that are always successful in turning over talent and the tampa bay rays come to mind the oakland athletics come to mind. You have the cleveland indians. Who seem to be very good year after year and a lot of teams like to pool from these types of organizations to make their moves for the next guy moving forward here but from everything. We've heard from the mets side of things. They are currently not interested in adding a gm from outside the organization here in the next month as we move forward to the twenty twenty one season. So jared porter is out. He sent unsolicited explicit photos to a former correspondents that once again. I mean. Read the article on. Espn if you want to get into a ton of detail here but Not a good. Look for the mets and not a good look for major league baseball at all here but that does it for today's episode. Everybody thanks for listening. What did we cover here today. Just to briefly recap of course at the top of the episode. We talked about the passing of don sutton. Unfortunately a los angeles dodgers great has moved on rest in peace condolences. Go out to the sutton family. We discussed all of his accolades and everything he did for major league baseball here rest in peace early. Twenty twenty one then. We talked about all the signings news rumors. The toronto blue jays making a ton of moves. They signed george springer. Michael brantley kirby. Yates a couple of other guys up there as well as the nationals. Make a move with less there. The padres at another starting pitcher with musk grove. The phillies added archie bradley. And then we talked about all the latest rumors how this affects jt. Mutoko and trevor bauer. Where do they end up. The new york yankees are still looking for starting pitching but trying to stay under the luxury tax. So a ton of stuff going on out there. But i appreciate you guys listening once again. So i'll ask you one last time here before we sign off please. Rate and review the podcast. Wherever you're listening apple podcasts. Spotify stitcher like rate review subscribe whichever platform. It's on you know. They're different buttons there. But if you leave a comment. I'll read them here on the show guys have a question. We'll talk about it. we'll discuss. It is well as head to social media jesus. Mcc baseball podcast. As well as the emcee podcast network. Check out both of those. And then lastly be a friend. Tell a friend continue to help us. 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#41: Clayton Kershaw, Caris LeVert, AFC North

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#41: Clayton Kershaw, Caris LeVert, AFC North

"Robert Covington Outta Care what you think the branch can't Wendy's they don't you know they along India's trade policy like the time Clayton Kershaw gladly Chris we saw yet again last night the ineptitude of Clayton Kershaw seen a wise man once told me that big time players step up in big time games and Clayton Kershaw supposedly a big time player and he consistently home small when it matters I understand the sample sizes is what it is but Chris we're talking about trying to win championships here I mean this dodgers team is James can benefit from kershaw still has a lot of value to his name for sure when it comes to being a starting pitcher in this league counted but this this postseason Yipes I guess is the best thing that Kinda describe it as it has to be concerning home runs left and right you know one of the best scoring differentials in baseball I think only second to the Astros I mean the team I am I am well it's that lightning in a bottle chemistry is just so fundamentally important to the show I mean you're getting to my Yang arguably one of the best offensively in Major League baseball history they were dominant they clinched they clinched the division by early August. What do you mean not going to work it is very much working with the with Clayton Kershaw the dodgers I think that we get really carried away over a couple of bad postseason outings right nice to two guys on the nationals now granted probably arguably the nationals two best players but still I think change of scenery is something that both t the last two years kershaw struggled a little bit with the one point five whip last year and the one point four one whipped this year but it's such a small sample this week we're going to talk about why the dodgers need to move on from Clayton Kershaw why Carris Levert is GonNa win the NBA's most improved player award? Yeah you say that a lot of the you text me that every night and I think it's a little bit creepy but I appreciate it and it's all good it is all cheers in Major League baseball I think it's crazy to say no we're good dog I'm not taking anything away from Kershaw pitcher as a pitcher and not saying that he's not is just unreal this year and when the time came and they needed their ace to go in and handle his business he give up back to back home runs I just think though I don't think it's ever going to work with the dodgers what do you mean it's never going to work with the dodgers Kershaw Food and why the AFC north is the single worst division in all of professional foosball Gregory. Let's talk let's talk let's talk everybody and welcome to this week's episode of you're wrong and here's why I'm Chris Wardell joined by Greg Crone Gregory how are you. I'm pretty good Chris about yourself today all sides talking about seventeen point one innings it's just it's bad luck is all it is Clayton Kershaw is was and will always be one of the best has to has to end dodgers have a flourishing young lineup you know I mean just filled with guys just trash you know able to come back and and when it counted really take advantage of a of a mediocre braves pitching staff in certain spots and they blew leads in that series to heartbreaking games heartbreaking games game three where they went into the ninth inning with this was unreal and now they're they're in the same position and you are sitting on our couch watching the remainder of the postseason let's talk about teams that are in a slightly different position I was and even even overcoming adversity in a in a situation where you know they went into ninth innings down and losing and is an Mvp three-times cy young award winner Eight-time All-star at least one gold glove at the pitcher position he's got five different times he's won the title on I wanted to get your take vodka has Houston at plus one seventy the Yankees and plus two hundred the cardinals plus four twenty-five Washington the Major League Baseball postseason and analysis point we've seen it so many times in this dodgers uniform the exercising futility at a certain point looking at Levada sportsbook for the odds on the world series champions and This is this is really interesting to me how this breaks I think that what we're talking about in terms of Kershaw in the postseason boils down to nothing more than really bad luck kershaw over Ledin ended up losing game and it looked like all was lost for Saint Louis it's one of those weird it's one of those weird things where else falling in yeah he has but he's putting his team in position to win gains these last two years are clouding judgements here what what about they weren't the best team all year they weren't super dominant but they they were able to ride it out when the central and here they are with the you know okay how many thirty two postseason games has a one point one whip he averaged seven point four hits per nine innings these are numbers that went aside or wins away from playing for a world series. Sure I for the record couldn't agree with you more there I very much disagree with you on this Kershaw thing though season he is one of the best pitchers in Major League baseball history I will never deny that Kershaw are absolutely deserves those accolades but when you come up short like this unfortunate bad luck Chris I think I think the word you're looking for is was a great pitcher and that dominance we a young not numbers that you get rid of now has he been a little bit unlucky with his AP and with the higher era because of just some some dumb luck and you you honestly it's it's almost mind boggling to think that a guy like this of his caliber of his talent could ready to see that sort of fade a little bit in the world of Clayton Kershaw and because there is still that perception that he is this elite pitcher and for sure hit another barely crept over three this is an elite pitcher this remains an elite pitcher and this playoff stuff is dumb luck it's down here was was he great these last couple of postseasons no but that was seventeen innings three stars three stars the plus four twenty five and the Plus Two thousand where's your money going I mean I don't like this cardinals team the cardinals did to the braves and the resiliency that they showed up this small in a situation like that again and you could say bad luck you can say you know it's just these two hitters but it there's a reason why you know all of the numbers I know you don't you don't like the numbers you're more of you're more of a field guy but all of the numbers suggest that he's doing everything he you guys stopped listening if feels like a very similar situation for Clayton Kershaw in Los Angeles I just have such a hard time saying looking at this through the lens of totality over his career because yes kercheval struggled awesome with teams guys you're talking couple of weeks ago but Mike Tomlin needing to go in Pittsburgh because he's been there too long in the changes in big games he's come up short so if he has four starts in a postseason you know because they've been going further and further each year he was unbelievable now he wasn't the same level of unbelievable as maybe he has been in the past is only the second time in his career Ziara crept over three but it only the dodgers need to separate from him they need a change he needs a change of scenery this thing is going to continue to haunt him every time this guy starts in the world series in two thousand eighteen I I'll admit that it he pitched eleven innings in two thousand seventeen he pitched fifteen innings and guess what that whip was zero point I'll concede that but that is dumb luck we we're talking about like fifth and stuff like that he looks great it's pure dome on needs to do to get the dodgers in a position to win and that bad luck is the thing that is keeping him back and is holding on and if the dodgers are dumb enough to get rid of Clayton Kershaw to rid themselves of one of the great pitchers of all time then they deserve what's coming to them eight nine zero point eight nine so to say that he struggled that's not fair the guy we're all nine point eight strikeouts pretend yeah I like I have a hard time blaming Kershaw for this now if if you're saying oh the dodgers can get a giant return for Clayton Kershaw so media goes crazy and there's a reason why stop her show twitter reaction as legitimate in from Clayton Kershaw in a year and there are some bonuses based on starts in cy young voting but right now they're sixty two million left ever two years which is super reasonable for a starting that's fine whatever you want to say but he was in there to get three outs and make sure that his team one of the best teams historically the dodgers have ever had in in two thousand eighteen when he's got a zero Yara around two thousand seventeen in the NFC two point four or the twenty six aw I agree and you know why they can Clayton Kershaw remains one of the best pitchers in baseball today but the arguments not whether Kershaw is actually a good pitcher the get to play in the NFL and now they're all going golfing in southern California first of all red flag warnings in southern California minutes that they need a change of scenery with this guy and he needs it for his own sake. I don't this argument is actually sort of based on that feel thing it's based off of that you know there's this narrative that has been built that kershaw comes in whether you whether you know the dumb lock where the stats above him sure so he's to probably in the dodgers organizational history you know you can maybe make an argument for Orel hershiser the playoffs something weird happens is it dumb luck shores it's something like that if that's what you want to talk to that's fine we talk about it all the time with coaches now but across the street from me they don't have power it's that tight it's so crazy to live in a state like that I don't understand it well this is only five point two hits and by the way only two point nine walks he should have done much better than the suggests the four point zero two yes giant hall for a hall of fame player that's that's what they that's what they deserve what's that whole look like so I don't know baseball's weird thank and forgive what is this was a good pitcher nonsense Kershaw had a three point zero three era in one point zero four with this year he find we're GONNA turn power off to eight hundred thousand people nothing screams you know politics like pettiness eight hundred thousand people she just destroyed California California was in a a haze of smoke for the better part of two and a half weeks we couldn't see the sign and when they should and shouldn't there total autonomy to do whatever they want and I think a lot of this is is literally pettiness it's like okay you want you want us to be responsible what is the results here and last night the dodgers had a three one lead and their best pitcher a potentially in franchise history behind what maybe Colfax pursue entitled the Campfire last year was one of the biggest fires in California history did billions maybe early even billions of damage in damaged pitcher. That's GONNA hit free agency is look at what guys like Patrick Corbin got less offseason Jake Arrieta and what the Garrett Coles of the world are GonNa get this off season eight hundred fifty eight innings Chris that's not a small sample size no it is not but you're also cherry picking stats and you know that you're not talking about that one point one whip which is the best baseball is definitely weird but you also heard on how he he's reasonable for the next couple of years thirty one yeah be careful if you're out there and you may not have power God knows I've been dealing with that for the last couple of days but yeah it's been a nightmare they don't there's I'm really lucky right who to any area in which they deem there to be a red flag warning they're not working and I want to stress this not working with the the California government to decide we'll say it up you know say yes or no to it I mean the guy's nine and eleven as postseason career four point three R I know dumb lock right that's one hundred you are actually your Middle Name is Donald Because Don Sutton exactly dad was a big dodgers fan yeah I just caterer pitchers actual success according to analytics guys yes sure yeah agrees what we're looking at what we're looking James Craig Co you drysdale pitched in eighty eight when you born one thousand nine hundred eighty eight boom and a lot of people don't know that as you would imagine at the Bejesus sued out of them and now there is a law passed that PG and E. can turn off power at their discretion to you know I think we both agree that the big giant prize this off season for Philadelphia is not Anthony Renton but Z.. Number three on the pitching staff call sheet well it it it gives you a call back to you know two thousand and nine thousand and ten AH above Hershiser yeah for sure have recency bias because I actually watch the guy like Orel hershiser pitch and didn't catch a lot of Don Sutton or Don Drysdale game it's the playoff kershaw thing goes back to two more than just this these last two postseasons I read you the numbers it was crazy and they PGA blamed because it started because of some faulty electrical wires now they got sued Howard R. Pitching Arab playing pitching and hitting irrespectively exceedingly well right now in the NFL and both had really strong years in the minors Howard if he's not a top priority for a team like the Phillies I don't I don't understand baseball then I mean he's been nothing short of superb can't and that is where Kershaw falls time I think Kershaw's too I think you're overrating Hirsch Eiser a little bit just because you know he was it wasn't too long ago thousand eleven where you had an elite pitching staff with guys who you could trust every day going out there on the mound and Garett cold need to chain change it up a little bit though around him so you're basically giving the pitching staff to Walker Bueller yeah I mean Walker has been again also nothing short of fantastic he looked great yesterday and had an excellent season of his own. All of a sudden is heading like one zero two and looks great Yeah no I I would that would be interesting if all of a sudden Noah found himself as CNN LCS with three or the twenty fifteen point six three or a two thousand thirteen with zero point six nine this is a great pitcher who has had download RJ bells dream preview every week on apple podcasts and podcast one dot com all right greg we're back in the second segment job in his time with the Astros and he was so good with the pirates prior to that too if you could if the dodgers were actually willing to trade kershaw and I don't necessarily know if oh that he was out there hershiser retired in two thousand but yet to talk about guys like Don Sutton and Don Drysdale I would think are above you know to top prospects to go get Kercheval we have top prospects Alec Bomb and so Alex Alec Bomb and Spencer his strength no matter the matchup. Rj's got you handled with topnotch analysis for the best NFL picks around now is that true or not I don't know very optimistic agree to disagree a it's a lesser less dramatic version of the title of this show but that's what's going to have to rei think they should be depending on what they're going to get in return I mean absolutely I'd be willing to give that up I still think her show is a very good pitcher I think that they need for guy like that it's GonNa leave your team it should be because he wants to leave not because you want to get rid of him so Auro we are we shall see how it will play out we're gonNA take a quick break and we'll be right back football season is here and it's time to dominate the competition with your fantasy picks and RJ bells. I think it's it's it's really short sighted for the dodgers to make this move if okay let's let's put this in the lens of Philadelphia Sports as we attend to do I'm so excited to be talking basketball again I it just makes me happy when it's basketball season I have spent every extra moment the guy that I think is going to be one of the catalysts to this Brooklyn team really taking the next step I know obviously the headliners Kevin Durant age so for those who aren't familiar with California our electric companies PGA and PG is largely responsible for firewood but Garrett Cole so would you would you be willing to give Garrett Cole the I don't know thirty five million a year he's going to be looking for and then trade affected by this from in both basically all of California now I did want to get back to this thing you touched on just a second ago prior to my pg Andy Reid Green preview on comcast sports net is your secret weapon victory I said the fact they didn't run in one house me this guy so confident he wants to hide player award even with myself because I started thinking about okay originally I was going to Kristaps Porzingis but that was going to be comeback player his minutes and his points rise every single year we've seen as efficiency rise every single year and in my mind he is primed for a giant breakout season nick but I kept coming back to Carousel avert I think we're going to be looking at a season where La- vert plays about twenty nine to thirty one I have over these past couple of days come I guess week watching Basketball Games I subscribe to League pass and I'm paying my forty dollars a month so that where we settle here agree to disagree I I think you have a guy like Clayton Kershaw you should try to hold on with everything you have for as long as he will stay with you world and the Kyrie Irvings of the world but carousel avert is a guy who to me looks prime to be that perfect third option on this team he's a guy who has seen itself out the last moment vert is in my mind and I struggled with I struggled with this argument for a while with the most improved I can watch preseason basketball games that's the the level of sickness I have and I wanNA talk about Charissa Verdon he's two two four yeah okay so so he afford Jesus Christ okay so in your world he's making it he's averaging at least one made three game minutes a game scores eighteen eighteen five and he is a clear cut emerging star in the NBA and then good enough to get himself that most improved player game. The man is Ben Simmons Chris Ben Simmons adding three point shot and if he shoots anywhere between thirty to thirty five percent from three this war two and start can't wait for them to break my heart funny heart heart this is what kind of frequency is he shooting three with in this thirty to thirty five percent world that you live in how many threes again two to four let's just say this guy who went from shooting fifty four percent from the field to fifty six percent from the field doc it right on up circle right on in and just delivered to his house the day the season ends okay the question I have to ask you I'm good with it I've never been more in on something outside of the flyers and Carter heart absolutely ceiling Stanley Cup last night with his first career shutout and because he's going to have less ball handling responsibilities unless defensive focus on this nets team with Kyri dribbling dribbling dribbling for twenty five seconds and then trying to bail ward yeah I mean carousel vert was certainly very impressive you know last year obviously miss some of that time injury is a guy liked a lot coming out of Michigan but I have ever another guy for you and me let's he's heading into his third year and something's changed in this man's world and what that changes that he might actually be willing to shoot three pointers in a real yeah go one for three every game it's fine in this world I think Benson's MVP not most improved players went by figured it's a package so okay so you're clearly bitingly type are right I expand course if he's good in the DS or good in the L. but in the world series he chokes I mean what do you want me to say listen it's not the Clayton Kershaw is a bad pitcher the argument is that from fifty six percent from the free throw line sixty percent from the free throw line went from sixteen point nine points per game seventeen point eight points per game and now the name Jonathan to Koumba I have no idea why or how I forgot that I kept thinking Westbrook and then when you said young went back to the Derrick Rose Bulls days interesting sorry it's fine this this Simmons thing I've never been more all in on something in my life I don't care if it was a Chinese the year and that doesn't really exist anymore sort of been morphed into most improved player and Guy Fred van fully and the like talking about it very packed stadium that it was begging for a three pointer delivered he did deliver it was an exciting moment it will I agree with that I don't know if they would be willing to give it to him yet does that make sense give me give me this if he adds this to his game and he's not going to be considered for MVP because this there's too many other people I think my point is is that they're more Ben Ben Distributes more than you honest does and he doesn't always look for his shot I so I don't think the point total who do I put the ball in a world where he's making a three a game he is effectively Lebron James Yeah I got all I got all flustered but I mean Jaanus was twenty three when he won the MVP Ben Simmons will be twenty three all season long sure point shot and we have to assume that that translates to some degree of comfortable comfort- comfortable shooting wow that was difficult for me shooting but let's let's talk about your boy Lebron his Lakers over it Bevanda. They've got the clippers at the favorite team I don't care that it was the preseason I the fact that he actually went out there and in public not in warmups not I don't even remember who won the MVP last year if for being honest okay are we being you being completely serious here because I mean I feel like you've already irregular jump shot as well I mean that that's seventeen points a game goes up to twenty two pretty easy twenty two eight and eight is those are pretty spots Yokich or something I love you I love Yokich so much but but that NBA superstar God bless him what we do last year it's impossible to count against that guy root against him he also has you know a pretty complete team we'll be there for him to be considered for that MVP thing I think points matter in between point I think points matter but if you're talking about a guy who adds a legitimate in some jim run because people don't know worser private warm-ups or private people do not know that there is a curtain trump's around the court and nobody can see them play all right conceded the the loss for this I have never will never concede you can see many times but the twenty nineteen mvp was dominant you know you don't go to seven or eight straight finals you don't you don't basically make every team you go to a contender just because of your presence without being the best it's it's weird how that works as a self proclaimed Lebron James you know I guess hater if it's GonNa be enough in this situation now because the MVP is really just like a media narrative award it's not really about who's the best player on the court Aaron has what three MVP's it's a little bit of a joke Lebron fourth best player in basketball for me right now behind Janas harden and Kawhi Leonard Behind him obviously Paul George but like the rest of those players on the court are actually probably even better than the team that he had last year landry shamet things a big you know a big presence to that Lakers team and he's obviously a top tier superstar in the NBA but the warehouses abused I still I still recognize him as arguably the best a maybe you know maybe people are catching up to them now now that he's a little bit older put the guy was vp numbers definitely really really really good numbers I just I don't know if it's going to you know at one fifty modest one fifty in the Lakers plus two sixty to win the Pacific who do you like. They're the clippers I I know Anthony Davis Brian is what how how old was that the Fella who won the MVP award last year because they only have thirty year olds right Chris precision percent discount. Danny Yeah yeah the the Afra mentioned Landry Shamet I know brought us to bias but no right trade hundred percent of the time as a retreat but that's not to say that you're right and it doesn't hurt are you concerned about load management yeah it was great we got to replace the fire GM with a guy who had burner accounts on twitter like I'm not gonNA argue it wasn't a weird story because banner of the GM that got fired like as as great as things have eventually turned out we essentially were stolen of the phillies for taking their time in firing Gabe Kappler when your your you know your franchise hasn't won a title in thirty six years like stolen from for Four Seasons by a team that was purposefully putting a product out there that was not a competent NBA team but would would you accept that again. I'm from good to not so good I couldn't agree more I mean how did the sixers get when they successful in that timeframe it's weird to me for people to take shots and we're defenses of of a of a team that great moment in sixers history I hate I hate it well it was it wasn't great moment in sixers history but it was a prelude to a great moment in sixers history this your franchise hasn't been really relevant in the title picture since two thousand one when they made the finals and you sit and Chirp other organizations that have been any other were a superstar pushes the team from good to great and that means they're also they're also at the mercy of an injury for one player taking the essentially stole money from their fans for four years like that that's something that that I don't think a lot of people look at they look at the process and how funny it is to Hang Guy fifteen games for you know rest or always age in Tim Dunkin's world you know what I mean well that's the thing to basketball is the sport more than factor into this at all would you does that lets you consider the Lakers thought of their yeah in terms of the division it might it and for these results I would sure I mean I guess you almost have to but to glorify that time as some sort of I think they're going to load management as well Georgia's probably gonNA end up playing like high forties low fifty games this year co I probably right around sixty does that take it might trickle down into into really mattering because I guess it now in today's load management version of the NBA like future wise to bed on because you really never know how teams are going to react. I mean you see these over unders released for teams and you're like well what if they sit really winning the division isn't isn't the priority it's making sure that you're in the playoffs the Lakers may be the better play there Jay Barrett Rj Barrett for whatever reason is kind of like Robert Covington is to you I just irrationally hate him I think I think he's a if I was a fan of a tanking team with these flattened odds because you're not guaranteeing yourself anything you saw what happened with the next last year dropped and they get the wildly inefficient you know but it got the sixers to the place they are now and they took advantage of the system that was able to be taken advantage of I would be a lot more concerned you know had hobbled Robert Covington that was superstar superstar drew I want the back so I'm sitting here taking cheap shots I apologize I apologize and I'm not gonna I'm not GonNa sit here and say oh man every night I got excited due to tune in and watch Henry Sims Sky will begin up guys and what is your beef with Bob Guy denied his heart out for the Philadelphia seventy six it's not bob it's the people that like Bob it's the people that chirp because they have the plus odds I mean minus one fifty is a lot laying a team to win a division in the load management area when you think that's what makes the NBA so much harder Serbia thrilled to get Covington back he covington goes to Minnesota plays thirty four minutes a game and he shoots thirty seven percent Owen. If if toby wasn't here and I in in Covington would start would start every single game where Horford or or embiid I think he's a useless NBA player. I think he's selfish chucker who is going to be a guy it's GonNa be very difficult to build teams around but I would I would six point seven three six point seven three game while also chipping in four point eight rebounds Five Point Seven Rebounds two point three steals managed so he would probably start out forty games a year thirty five games a year he he's the perfect peace to have right now along with future NBA defensive and one point one blocks and fourteen point game wouldn't you when you love to have Robert Covington as the first guy off the bench on this team right but but you see here Chris has happened to him he looks just completely uncomfortable playing basketball at this point I don't necessarily think he wanted to leave the situation he was in no way is that the rational people don't think that he should be coming off the bench they just happened just happened after by his Harris at this point but really good he's a useful player he's not gonNa be a superstar but he's a useful player I would love to have Bob Back Dario is the guy who has like a little bit confused as to but as as you now move into another completely different world where sons are year in year out the bottom dweller of the NBA with me T. Wolves Zone exactly the same caliber of talented the sixers did or still do and now he is a phoenix son yeah well no I know I'm talking about last year ahead of Josh Jackson Jn you now have three potential you know NBA all stars in in Fox Booker and ah there's there's certainly an adjustment period because he's going to be used different in a different system he's playing with different players who for all intents and purposes I mean the the at the end of it we talked about the clippers the Lakers warriors are plus four hundred kings or plus five thousand sons Plus Twenty five thousand EPA vodka. Do you think that that's like I don't know what they have there it's too many pieces that don't necessarily fit together well it's a totally different team right now no real hope that there's some change in sight but I don't necessarily know what what that's going to be for for the sun as good as Devon worker is and you know the potential of I can't think of his name of course but the big yes Andrea aiden because year just just kills a franchise that that vision is kind of interesting to me though I see player of the year Matisse table causing havoc net backward hat I love the versatility guards I love him hey he thighbone is just a an indication of how critically important the draft is not within on draft picks but this is a totally different looking team if they take the air on Fox you think the warriors served me mentioned with the clippers the Lakers man I think they Dayton and a quarter really built around this going to attract other people instead you take Josh Jackson he's an unmitigated disaster trades the grizzlies and he's GonNa play in the G. League out who's you know

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Episode 551, recorded 2020-09-28

Blue Lotus Buddhist Temple Podcast

57:03 min | 8 months ago

Episode 551, recorded 2020-09-28

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Every day time why do you cry suffering seeing jaw same. Sadness? Difficult difficulties, same problems again and again. Now. We will same things. day-to-day live. We same problems. We did same sadness. See Difficulties. Then Act same. Sometimes. Some we I know. Thinking too much about it. And we say the. We don't try to see. We are suffering from sadness come from. When we think about in this point in this case. This meditation really care to see that course of suffering course of sadness especially loving kindness meditation. This. Kind of medication has illumine benefits. Even benefit benefits. If you do this kind of stack this new, can you know? To Get this benefit very soon. I'm not going expend all that benefits. And I just want to. So you secret benefit that are four benefit include in this loving kindness practice. You know you know in the a people living in fear. Because up anything happened in that would. Go. Now I use other side. So many people fight each other, right? Kennedy? And they. Against each other. So many things going in this world right now. So many people are living in fear. I said this to do people to practice meditation loving kindness meditation. This is the key overcome your own. Your own inciting. Not, just thing flowing kindness. A pack. This loving kindness Bush before to ourselves. I'm bill I'm happy 'em peaceful we repeat. Again, and again, this three words ourself daily make our own happiness. Now, think why do we need to practice loving kindness to said Why? Because We need to you know. Makeup of food. Love. Loving kindness. Hot. mind. The need to make. Loving kindness that unconditional love. It is not changing at all. If you. Good with your loving kindness. If you're have lying kindness, then you can share that cost to others. If, you've practiced loving kindness to yourself, heaven. then. You can overcome field of gigged. Because we know sometimes. You just you. You are making your own field. Right nobody makes for you hear this, you are making your own fear. Think distinct. Getting angry with your partner or your family members. Ho How do you act? If you. Accurate. Crazy. What happened? Ha How your body what he? Goes. Oh. That is A. But now. If. You If you're not practicing loving kindness, you will get bad facade from your. Anchor. You. If you use embed words, you mute get back you know restart. From your. Speech. Now team when you practice loving kindness to you too. Sir. What happen it can change your south then new. Really. Become. person to yourself, then you try to protect yourself A. Other person who can brings happiness uses your side. If. To practice everyday slamming kindness happen then you can overcome the of. In Body Cold Uptown weather by at the field of Kid. Then, you protect yourself. Then new. You know take your mind. You'll guide mind good way because you need happiness. Because you know you are the person who can bring happiness to you. Hi that In fact. Step if you practice. To other your family. What happened? Me No sometimes we. Get. From our family members Sons. Daughters. Hospital UAE. They create feel us. For You Trouble. Upset. Getting crime. Like when you practice if you practice this second day. If you share this loving kindness to others who family members like happen you can overcome the of shame. On the by Because they known or dispersing soul wonderful person. He. fact is loving kindness meditation. He's the. Leading person enough family. Then David. Post you. They've been the to debut. Help you. Then never me any trouble situation for you. Now think how important this kind of practice. Then, you can overcome the feel of Shane in. By it that is a second benefit of loving kindness meditation. And also in your practice, this meditation been your team again and again. May All beings be real. Happy please. If you repeat this word again and again, what happened you try to make in a peaceful place in this world? Than people think all dispersal. Lobbyists person he tried to make A. Lobbying these. Place in this world then they. Help you neighbor day are going to punish you? Attack you because you know how important is human life hull value these the human human life because you tactics loving kindness meditation. If you're not going to harm anybody found not going to against anybody what happened. They are not coming to you. Did. They don't do you. They don't attacks you. High. It means you can overcome theory of punishment. Done the. Done. Not at. Others. If you're not against this if you're not. Fight of this. Happen. Dan Not. At ten you. They are not finding you. Then it means you can all come the feel of. Punishment. Is a third benefit of loving kindness. And Create the plumbing towards again again in your mind. Then you can be. Lobby percent. Kind. person. Then people you are the person kind I an annual companion, your family in your society. Then what? The respect you. They love you the Cross you. That is the good place. That is the good place it means now you are never going to the bed place. You can overcome the fear of bad case. The bad place. Sometime people say bad. News held. He's Living, in this present moment in this slide what is bad? He's Back he's. Pace. Nobody. If you act crazy. If if you are a fight each other if you're argue getting angry. With the people people respect you back place. Because people don't like to see bad people. To, associate unwise people. If they are rice. and. If you accurately peacefully. Dick will do that is the good place. Then did this picture the closely love? Being how important is back this loving kindness practice you can overcome your fears. Because this fear and suffering work to give that. You're. Getting, fear. And suffering. Is Down. Many are getting somebody. That side would the put this two teams insane worse. And if you can tell your. All calm. Your fears what happened it means you all come. You're suffering. If you owe come suffering. It means your. A. It means you have practice this loving timing meditation. The Meta. This but what are You have practiced again and again every day at least to me. Before you go to bed before you. After you makeup, you have practice Dacian at these. If you wish if you whole create your own happiness. Me This is the key. To make your own happiness. and Go home and this this loving kindness everyday. At this two minutes. Thank you so much for being. Have a wonderful.

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Getting Cast as a Foreign Actor in the UK With Zuzana Spacirova

"Diary of an Unemployed Actor"

37:16 min | 9 months ago

Getting Cast as a Foreign Actor in the UK With Zuzana Spacirova

"Feel good. I. Feel Fine. Welcome to diary of an unemployed actor with me Milo Denison. Each week I speak with up and coming actors, actresses, and filmmakers about the entertainment industry would discuss success failure in sheriff few tips to inspire those of you who have a passion for the creative arts. Today I will be speaking with actress Zuzana SPEC Ryava. Who is a wonderful london-based actress? Parsa way through ask her if she has any entertaining. Audition stories or bad auditioning stories, and she talks about one where she showed up late and at an with the addition and it's kind of funny because this week I had a very similar audition myself. So it was four A, it was a small small role in a short film it was. Only a few lines. So as did this self tape at home, which is pretty much what they always ask you to do now in went grade I think I'd nailed it sent it off. And of course, they call me for an in person audition grape the in person audition is north of London so I'm not gonNA explain the geographic London regions or areas to say I live in North West. London. This place was north of London but in order to get to it, I had to take a tube or underground line. To central London from there, take a trainer overground line to North. London. So all in all about an hour twenty hour and thirty minutes, not a huge deal. So happen might. Tube train get down to central Annan get onto the train going north literally within like two minutes of leaving the train station the train stops, and this is last week, which we were having a bit of a heat wave in London. So I know most people in most places, the world wouldn't consider this heat wave and I totally agree with them but we're not used to here in London which means they don't have any kind of air conditioning on trains or subway systems or anything like that. So. I'm stuck on this train with no air conditioning at all sweating terribly trying to get to the sedition. So text the producer and say, Hey, running late train stopped, which by the way something that happens a lot in London. The Mass Transit System is very unreliable here, but that's beside the point. So send that text message than the train starts moving in like great train started moving gelman slater stops moving again, eventually get out to where the destination is and I still got about fifteen minute walk from. The train stopped where the edition is being held. So I kinda haul ass to get to the place. So I arrive probably about a good thirty minutes late sweating exhausted, and since I'm late I pretty much go straight into the room and do the edition now the girls running, it were very nice and very great. So nothing against them there they're really professional and wonderful. But of course, going through all of this, my brain was literally fried I think I forgot the lines of the the piece. How, Shit, for the Lions as she says it to me I tried again forget the line again and so I grabbed the script start reading from the script and do the scene from script and eventually you know we do it once and and I see it comes back to me and she gives you some directions I do it again based on the different directions but the reality was is like I was not in the right mindset I. Just I wasn't there I wasn't I wasn't into character I wasn't. Doing it in actors know what I'm talking about. You know when you're in the right zone and you know when you're not and I definitely was not so suffice it to say. Left the dish him get on the train coming into London and the train was again late. So I'm stuck waiting to get on this train to get into. London finally into. London. Finally, get home hours after I left and I think. It's obvious by now that I didn't get the part haven't heard from them, and once again, no fault of theirs I wouldn't. I would question their sanity if they did cast on, me, cast me based on that audition. So that is my addition story of the week. Hope you found that somewhat entertaining and I hope you enjoy and find my discussion with Zuzana somewhat entertaining. Enjoy. This episode is sponsored by Anchor DOT FM if you haven't heard about anchor, it's the easiest way to make a podcast. In fact, it is what I use for this podcast. It is free it's easy and this Mitchell, our podcast services, such a spotify Google podcast and apple podcast. They do this for free. Some hosting platforms will charge you a monthly hosting fee and you have to distribute it. Yourself. Anchor has built in creation tools that allow you to record and Eddie your podcast right from your phone. Or computer providing you with everything you need to make a podcast recording interviewing editing and publishing. We don't do podcast for the money we do it because we enjoy making them money is nice and with anchor, you can make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. Some services require over two thousand downloads per episode. Before you can monetize anchor, we'll let you generate ad revenue. If you are a smaller podcast like this one, download, the free anchor, APP or go to Anchor Dot FM to get started. Cool. All right. Well, let's get started. Then I question is what's Kinda got you into acting what made you want to be an actress come I guess I was. A young that's late night at eighteen sat say. Yes just kind of you know you can attract find place where you belong and I just couldn't quite figure it out always kind of went to always. Going in steady something interesting Joe. The idea was just kind of boring to me I was listening to do something more in. Different as date. And Then I joined small kind of community theater and everybody was just as weird as me. It was great. And I just felt like I belonged that. Enough to pretend to be anything else just could be myself, and then I can say to. That I don't can't GonNa is what I'm GonNa do did you study theatre in college and now? I, studied just. Regular I think is going to. University. We have. Yet. And then finished. Just. Oh, you can study Madison. The actress. To. Have you planned to make money if you're going to be an actress. You just Kinda. Why did you go through? And I kind of advice drums crew and I didn't get. They said No. By next year no. They said no by the district know. And it kind of gone through much of knows and nineteen twenty. You can you don't really have strobe leaving New South? I, didn't at least. Michigan case them. Out just tried to do something else. When blended origin was just to get a job. Something, House just have to surrounded by older people that walked out when Doing acting. And I was waitressing and being miserable and no being able to get any anywhere or else, and I was walking interview Joel Without Me Fest Three four years living in London, and then I kind of cited them negative show as as Until. Happy. In. So you were applying for drama schools in Sorry. Did you say Czechoslovakia's that we? Did they. Why? Why didn't they accept you for the schools like was it? It's did they give you reason multi don't usually give. Okay none of those things I guess. Any K people investor town comes to costing you Don Sutton. You'd have said look. Just kind of be Tola Loan. I mean not that you have to look like to get droughts yet, but you kind of need. Charging kind of the day notes foul. Is Industries. They're so small. Almost as very soon, enough space to. Have people maybe just look dysentery and I was very short and. had. Like an elegant Voss uk-us. I just didn't belong there told. Like. I feel. Thing I would be happy. With waiting walks. So is the fact that you got the knows over there that motivated you to come here and it actually worked out when he came over here. So is kind of. ENDED UP NEXT E. Did you go to school studied acting here then when you came here on yes. So you worked for a few years and then studied acting yeah. Yes I. Guess. We sat never. None. Try to take few small evening acting just to get into it and he was Oh, it was weird. It's just speaking it was. Sunday. Say Mines that. Somebody, else return it. I just couldn't. I just started like. Omitted And then that kind of I would tend drama school or year. And that really helped get my oceans and. She had the language. Did they teach you was stage acting that they focused on ORF among? Many drama schools in UK Lsu religious studying screen. Do folks say seems like an dot screen acting close refried news. So. onstage. Will your accent you have a very British sounding accent. So did you spend time working on that or would did I just pick that up just from living here? Just picks it up. Then there were two. Little things I did notice that doing. So I would always any British friends I have. Especially activists would make them listening to meet just A. Conversation. Just stop need had said something that wasn't. WAITS TO BE. OR A. Bogey she's been my t h beginning. Pronounce it eastern senior in ways the not set. This, you say this that. I she law you have to watch yourself. Actually. That's pretty good. Do you find then as you audition if they're looking for as you do do people sometimes call you out like traditions where you're playing a British character in lake. Your accent's not quite British enough. Yeah I've been kind of why do You really see I see. So. When that happens that she always you. Feel like. It doesn't say I can do you might. Say Anyway. And also I feel like the hey, don't cost. Foreign Passan who they can have just someone. Doing their own accent. which is backed by I. Complete the accent but then. is still cuts someone from. Much like Russian so that You'RE GONNA accent. So It's of do both ways or don't do it. That's my experiences well, because I can't do a very good British accent but also competing against when they're looking for somebody who an American accent competing against the British person that's also doing an American accent yet. Do you think you have a harder time finding roles then or defined that now that you've been here long enough and you and you've acclimated well enough it's yours as competitive as anybody else going earl. I feel. Still Than Rich Best. But. You can see that industry's changing you could see you need to have such an age bracket you told me to. Sin Song's. Stand you. Find that the lowered budget? They willing to kind of be. Under strict. It yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So they like the. You do see more especially, actually break. You see much more. People Gossip for your ear. Now. That's good. Yeah. As he's from. Mainland Europe. With. Talion French Ukrainian college and. So they'll they. Look like yeah. I could play someone. Eating to have had really good straight look at yourself and say, where do I look like? How a sound and then maybe will. Yeah that's good. That's important. I think especially for a lot of actors starting out they kind of think I can do anything and you need to be a bit more self aware and say we can't do everything. So focus on what you can kind of do best and of you know then maybe branch out a little bit. How did you find your first? ONSCREEN acting job. Just. A yourself screen. Time in bed we so critical of ourselves. And it does say each you just need to get you stood. Okay Yourself. And Be, this is not looking at era this much. Much. and I, feel like a now I actually do not enjoy it. I find that G. Mice. In a done Lonzo much. Okay this. Screaming. And just kind of. Things and money and take it to the Metro. I definitely becomes less scary as you go I just the to you to so earn your nights Ended find actually counselees. Accent. And actually morals. Today do the all. Trying. Go Out. Lights with. Helda. Even know though I, enjoy kitchen this right out from. Realistically speaking. Oh. Okay. So you Kinda gotta go the path that has more opportunity for you. You've worked on. Short films and feature films. Do you find there's a huge difference in between being onset between a short film and a feature film or is a pretty consistent? There is not much difference. I. I'm sure it. And That he'd. Just. Moved Land and. Anytime I need if each so it's Two. Days for week that's an you don-. Of. Short. Look good excursions to have to have meat raw. It's. Just this. Is just so many things you think. You know film ONC-. In March seen in. June. They. Just while they offer each other and you just need so clustered in it to. Increase needs to be in it so much in. So, well because I know how having spent. Concentra film. Just happened to me was when I realized. Then you will. I seen. This. Moot. I just came across started. which didn't make any sense. that. Okay Is Very well, it might be. Do you. Are you one of those actors that likes to watch the take in between scenes or D. preferred not to watch it and just wait and see it till it's actually complete. One of those didn't want to. Now And I can see that. Okay. This different way. Central g something you always come gross. Yeah. Hounded and camera citing very. Useful. At least two other Ucla like in the performance of like what you can do to tweak to make a little bit better and then go into the next with that. Yeah and also you can get emotions. Ten let's take an example of a film that Yorktown. So you work done call suppression which I think is coming out this next year, right? A BACK Exchange. All right. So how did you get cast in that? How tell me about the addition process for that film out actually I didn't know this. The only one I. Did notice. I remember for it's on WHATSAPP Romandie. About so worst and most independent films cal stat. And Fine for it. Straightaway. And You Looking. And spoke of the to look. He didn't actually won't be to which. You Trust me law. As it. Fresh me when her throat. What is now standard? But it's always the voices thing. What should you get it? Into a trip finally show me. Why because? You should have gone someone else. Bush. It's just. Going on. So it's like trying to get you know. How do you remember that little voice? How do you make go away? I think a lot of actors have that while there's the balance, there's the actors that they're brilliant. No matter how bad they are, and then you have the other actors that are the flipside of like terrible even though they're get I'm so sounds like year on the flip side where you really think that you're worse than you actually are so howdy. How do you feel you can get over that? Just trying to balance it out. No. Knowing issue. And you had the as exist to get you that and everybody needs. As nobody's. Inaugural shoot somebody is. Eighty times and scratchy time to when you read something because it's not going to be. Shakes. Read any te-ok nobody select. Help. Is, it's OK to steaks. And don't. Go again and then also. He do. In a healthy way. To the point to where it actually hurts the performance because you're so critical, how do you which process for memorizing lines? I practice that someone. Style. Find monologues state on that established one because. If I was from. And I. Say. If you listen to the outback two in if you don't delight accent. Pack keynote at of how Jewish? Even she said he's been lying to stay. The same thing just. So I tried to really listen. out where spy catches orange, mentally how am I? Am Cova and he know Dr. Congo want just. Miserable and then at the act that's not wait. Looks me. And how how you feel what you're trying to get. From this. Conversation from the US. And then Empower my kid which just. Basic I. Guess. It's Drops. It just works. Now makes sense. I'm curious because you mentioned spotlight at one point and I kind of have a hate hate relationship spotlight because. If you need an eight if you want an agent in London or people care so much about spotlight in, it's just a website in my opinion, a casting website, which is. You know Mandy or any other ones? do you find you get a decent amount of work from spotlight defined? It's worth being on there. No idea leaks. Since replies but. As he should have. Take seriously. It'll take you. To be on it. There is often. Known, single costing. Yeah and you have to pay to see what's it get. This. yet beyond go. Free or full-frontal costing I. Were they You got jobs through spotlight or was additions? Yes. I don't find very many. Of you can't see old. Classics Agent See that. Pencil H temple. I don't feel in the right agents. So far API like a need I h back. Folks on its lactic. Yeah it's hard. It's hard to find a good agent when you're starting out especially, I think more at a certain. You know stage in your career like it's great. If you're in a list celebrity, you know all the tops agents want to represent you. But. If you're not, it's you know the balance of finding an agent versus finding a good agent and it's the good agent. That's the key. That's an. Engaging substance. It's any need to just click. IT IS A. That takes go. Yeah, and it's just funny because they're like, are you on spotlight that doesn't necessarily mean you're a good actor it just means you're on a way that you managed to talk him into. Did you have a hard time getting on the sites in the first place or did they accept chill? His lip. Action Pretty quick create. drowsy. into. I don't. He. Felt. Oh. You like one of those things in. US Anti Eat. Still, so good land. Cycle Michael. Yeah do you have any audition horror stories like crazy additions that were like oh? My God that was weird or you walked out of there saying, I don't want that at all anything like that let's say shouldn't for. fell. and. I kinda neck Johnny. Catching. meaning. We'll see late. London. And Finally go fast freezing. On was. Horrible horrible speech. Sales. Magic. To my mother scrape. Right, there's no great. Room. Table. Which? I eat. And try his. My mom died my mom died. Range, try a convince yourself. Just I think it was quite late. Yet. You already cost. Would they will ted? A Minority. Any harm kind of. Movement in one of their phone. And also. which I was really upset A. And I think that when people don't give the time you come here no the lines if I was lane and I don't know anything. Funny. Come Pat. Units of your attention. Don't come this. Way. And they just don't. Always that's was I didn't have any kind of. Insult. So when you went in there, they told you, they already cast it nowadays in. Way Of. behaving. Interested actual. Then when you kind of realize. that. I'm so no right. Thing somebody. Happens to me via two wins. Very. It's okay when I'm already cost like Sean. Devising grosses of doing some in creating term struck. And he's just you have the group an your motive is Colorado. And it's for review and. Credit. And everybody who is just seems to. Read the next. I I need to know the people before and. Find out what was just very embarrassing. Stressful. Mexicans inside comfortably is delicious. It's just Austin as. Vice way of additioning. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever done up I was still. All any theater auditions I've done of either been doing a monologue or reading from the script with. Their voiding. Which I think is works because you're reading the characters in the play off each other and were in sound together only weird audition. I. Did like that was the effort theater school where they like they put you on the with other people in they're like you've just been born and now live aid I'm GonNa say Oh my God. Okay, just ask you to the callow or no. It's And grown up twenty year old woman of no being object. You wait houses helping. The night I know. By. To See, you have improvisation skills but I do. something. That would be. That if you just started breaking out laughing and being like two. Oh They sure. This is yet. Away month. This horrible replenishing is for film Scooper Jay and. As meant to kill someone in the scene where doing. Thank you passing. People play the character is. At the end Beguel is meant to kill. Passionate trying to kill the boyfriend and I read script wrong and it killed the boyfriend in. June. Those pretenders. That's well somebody got killed there you. No Gun just like. Did you. have. You ever been cast in something or gone for an audition and then afterwards decided not to do it for any reason of like you know what? Now that I know more about it I don't think it's the right project for me yet, I. I used to take over. After that we start. To build you see. In. Just. So that's Been floating needs to stop intellect. and. It took me a while realized I. Did you very in my? Old I took three. And especially way you just. And so much time. Sick. Lenny wise. Filming Week. Two weeks. And yet I did. About Oh. Will I mean? A. realized. That actually. If I was dating. This didn't. I, just talk myself I could. have. Anything to. One nuking. Attract. Side. If the Russians did when it comes filled and you'll see. Hayward. Crew to. and. I learned how to. Read My. Pain how I Doing that. Regretting. High. Trump yeah. It's actually going to be a good quality. And combat lighting that camera. Obama just makes even goods cramped or scrape. Aris wealthy. Yeah, especially, with him, I, mean because that. Essentially follows you for ever. You. Please nobody ever. In. How This. So, yeah. There's not. I quick ninety percent in less. Actually Asian crowd yeah. People about you didn't show it. To showroom. Just for. Doing something. Yeah. Well. Do you. You mentioned red flags. You look for those at during audition when you're talking to the director or I know sometimes you know after addition they might say do you have any questions for us do ask them any questions that kind of help give you an idea that's a good project he has to say It's the first nurture walked. Usually. I can't. mission. Tragic. Look. People. There is. And he hadn't is kind of. Like there. is a dark seems should. Good crew. And that's Just I'm. Just GonNa. Make. Yeah, the crew makes it such a huge difference in that. Don't think people realize because you've got to have the right people around you. At a a a director contact me about something wants and then he sent me is previous take a look at my previous project. You know 'cause like thinking that it might encourage me and I watched it was so bad I'm like I'm like I. Trust in working on anything. That you've done because this does not this does not sell it to be. Helpful yes. Just of don't cheat see. Any interesting thing in the special skills section of your CV that people would know about some unique skill the have that you. Why stock in children's yet? Jokes and So I do think I'm quite good. Packed. Creating characters theatrical. and. went to I still want to use not in in a way so i. would. Say. That's Just GonNa. Cry. Can can you juggle. Yeah, John. Well. there. Yeah Yeah. I remember I. I put once slacked. Nine. You should do more. Than I think we've been we'll. Always. Back in my mind. It's been something that wants to stop rousing. Cheer. Every. so I am the. Yeah I I doubt. Tracks led. To. Is it like a like a one person show or is it a? Yet no no like easy. Way To skin stop in Europe and see how how you actually get. Out. Your seat ideal. On and then we would. On. Two. have to. You know memorizing lines. You. Acting like I'm from what? I mean it's just Silly he's nasty. That's great. Do you have anything coming up that we should be on the lookout for suspicious coming out next year? We hope thing. I believe frequently. In short. Not, gotten back to Poland she a leak Sirius Channel slow you don't get like Ono. and. I initiating experience now we? Will See to not that. As well and hopefully like. Genie. TWEET IS IT COMING FRENCH LAST YEAR When eight Ro- Entrenched laws and Wisconsin area. Consult as quickly as. Returning. Waiting to see like when the sater's open and if they're going to have time time. Because it was meant to be got smoke the justice that they have he. and. So they go your. What was the play called? Okay. All right. Last question if people want to find you anywhere, where would they find you a social media website or whatever? So Yeah I have my signed signing. And Mine's grab. Each I will. Link to both of those in the show notes. So if anybody wants to track you down, they can click on those and if they're casting for the next great project. Will. Thank you. It was fantastic talking to you Zuzana. Fantastic talking to you. Thank you very much and enjoy.

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Enflamme ep#7 Vivre dans la lumire

Enflamme

15:25 min | 1 year ago

Enflamme ep#7 Vivre dans la lumire

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2021-01-22- KSR - Hour 1

KSR

43:00 min | 4 months ago

2021-01-22- KSR - Hour 1

"From chelsea lately in. Amc's breaking bad comedy on broadway and lexington green welcomes lavelle crawford. January fifteenth through the seventeenth and would specials on comedy central in. Netflix's can tell me pescatore january twenty first st the twenty-third then from think like a man and think like a man to miss gary. Oh and january. Twenty eight to thirty first or showtime tickets call five two seven one joke or visit comedy on broadway dot com. Talk radio ten eighty. This is kentucky. Sports radio presented by stockton mortgage. Now here's matt jones. Welcome everyone sports radio. Friday january the twenty second. I am met jones here in lexington kentucky on a beautiful day at ks bar grill with ryan lemon andrew franklin shannon's in louisville. And you give shout the clarksburg shop online five zero two five seven one eighty eight vision glass text machine seven seven two seven seven four five two five four in this dish sponsored by tj smith. Law is tj. He'll get right up in them and he'll make them pay drew. I'm sitting here looking at ryan living. I don't know this guy first of all dressed up so here. I wanna play a game. It's called ryan limit is dressed up for an event can shannon. Guess what he's wearing right. This is not a formal of it but it's enough of an advantage. That ryan is not wearing sweat pants. And a t shirt. Can you guess what he's worried right. Now i'm going to guess khakis and pollo loco for apollo. You got the khakis right okay. He's got the equivalent of apollo. He's got the dress shirt. Drew drew button. Show like a checkered checkered. Plaid shirt your must be a big day this about once a year. See you like this. I i have not had on this kind of outfit. What time during quarantine i had on those pants can say. Look at. look if you've got the the wallet or whatever yeah as he's putting a strain on those are you got the conway twitty tight fitting khakis own. I have been invited to any -clusive luncheon today where where's the lexington club. Where only the exclusive of the exclusive get to go well. What is that like a luncheon to men's club. I think where the on election for one hundred years and you have to be. You have to be a member and members get to invite somebody. Yeah yeah it's like high high falutin. But i mean like what is it a place or is it is lexington club in actual location downtown accident on esplanade down there and it's not a yeah and it's like you know you gotta have a code to get in and you had to be invited. You know the code. I've got the secret code today. Oh i tell anybody have the code. Is this like old people probably. Yeah why did they invite you. Well got invited by brad. Pickerel our saying he got by brad pitt. Who else would he have been. Well you know. Drew brad pitt. Cronin investment baker to the stars. Of course brad baker and minded you. Why wouldn't you. are you supposed to speak. no no. I'm just going to eat lunch. Eat the free lunch. Do you think there's a chance they're asking you to be in the lexington club. Not a chance. Give money no chance. So why would they invite you. We're brad just invited me. Come hang out and have a free lunch. Have lunch there right. Nobody likes free lunch like you. So this is what you're telling me. This is going to be like all the high rollers out there. Oh yeah the big time. High rollers of lead. Then you and then me. And i'm going to be there in my my tommy hilfiger shirt and i think tommy hilfiger. I didn't realize that thing didn't he thinks the australian you remember the tommy hilfiger. So you and your tommy hilfiger in those khakis. Yeah which are good. Yeah a really tight. I put them all about this. I mean not too much today as you can see. He's sitting there and he has his wallet in his pocket and his wallet are straining make out the digital credit card. George costanza wallet anyway. It's those pants to say. Well i'm excited for you at the lexington cl- i mean when you get an invite to the lexington club. I've only been one time. I got to go when i first got here. You got to go. you got invited. Brad pitt grogan. Remember who invited me the first time. Okay so let's get impression. Yeah i wanna. I got the job at channel eighteen. They invited me to come to new member of society. Come down to go in so your your member of society. I haven't been since. Are you aware of this club. I i've heard i i've heard it. I'm excited for ryan. And i listen. I i'm maybe one day brad pickerel invite us and we can be part of scoop will just give us the code and we'll show up all right well. I hope you enjoy a solicit. You can't wear jeans and you have to holler shirt. I only sweatpants now when now. You can't get in with twitter pants. You have to wear dress pants or khaki. I feel like drew address if it was necessary. I feel like we could pull that. Oh well well listen. I hope you have a good time. Thank you congrats. I'm being part of the elite society here in lexi. Here's what i'm worried about. The lunch will be like you know that salad. It's like stuff you pull out of your backyard kind grassy stuff like poke salad. Poke salad and i'm not gonna lie. Why would the lexington club get the cheapest form of food. I thought these were the high roller arrest. The high falutin salad the the high talking about spinach of iceberg lettuce. If this dinner first of all spinach is not poke salad. Pokes out is grass. Yeah and then the red stuff. Put on your radishes. Yeah i don't like any of that stuff i know. Are they going to be. What do you like on your salad. What is your salad lettuce and cheese and thousand island dressing. And i'm happy. Bits and bacon. Bits the budget's out. I've ever a loaded baked potato salad. Salad is cheese bacon. Bits and thousand island dressing. Why don't you just get a big jar of cholesterol. Just injected into your say. They have sunflower seat. That might tell you about our senior health. Hey don't forget to advertise her. Don's it sounds like extra clubs in for a treat today. We are here at ks bar. Grill the pappy van winkle giveaway has been going on a lot of folks been calling in coming in to get it. I was asked yesterday. Of course we're giving away a twelve year bottle pappy van week. We'll have a draw. Everybody that eats here take out or will also throw in the gift cards so if you order a gift card from us because people were like i can't get there you will be entered in. The drawing. Got to question already asked me. Can you inner more than once. Yes but each time is different so if you come at lunch you get to injuries just for the record you come at lunch today. You get to injuries dinners one entry. Weekend is one injury. But i didn't. I'd forgotten that dinner lunch on friday day. Launches to injuries. and yes. You could come at lunch today. Get to injury. Then come tonight and you get another okay and carry out is an entry. Harry out isn't the only thing that's not an injury. 'cause we can't track it is the is the delivery like the door dash we just because we don't know who gets it so that's not as long as you carry out you come and get it. You get an injury in correct correct okay. Yes and by the way if if if the lexington club wants to order a bunch they can get in. You don't need a coat here. Anybody code no need to go right so you can't lsu play tomorrow at six o'clock right right. Six o'clock we're at the halfway point of the year and there's been a lot of complaining there's been a lot of whining. There's been a lot of sort of just angst right in one of the things. I got law message last night. Well i got to law message. One of them had a lot of cuss words and was very angry and all of us it ended with the person. Say the only person i like is shannon. It's because he ain't got a damn bit worth a sense. And i like that. Which i thought was those backhanded compliment. I've ever seen. I'll take it the rest of us though got worse than that goodness the second email though was actually an interesting when one which is here buddy complaining a see everybody on social media complaining but a complaint is only so good unless you can give a how you would fix so the question was for the four of us. What would we do to fix this. Uk basketball team. Like if you were right now. John period called you and said listen. You've been invited the lexin club so i know you're big time. I need your one piece of advice. The one thing you would say that you think would have the biggest transformation to this team. All four of us have to give one. And i'm interested. What will say since. You're big time ryan. I'll let you go first. And we can't say the same thing causses ryan. Give me the one thing you would do to turn the season around the second. Half what are you saying. I say the first thing i would do. I think we gotta go zone more than we play zone. I think because our man to man defense is not working. I think we can't stay in front of our guys enough on defense. I think you have to play zone more playing two three zone. One three one box one. I think you're going to have to play three zone even re to because our our late this so much. We have to get on the perimeter. More people don't play the three to zone. You're still doing it. Yeah bringing it back. I think or something to that. Effect that use utilize our link more to get out on the perimeter more and if we get beat one time who cares of advice of three to zone shannon. What are you doing. I don't think there's any fixing the team at all that you don't have a sitter. You don't have anybody out there who can make shots your skirts. And you can't look him if he says you can't say it's unfixable. That's not on the phone right now. I'll tell them that. Get him on the phone. I'll tell them you're giving him no advice. You're like just in the season. Well i wouldn't say in the season. But i mean there's no fixing this team you don't have shooters you get good. You get a decent defensive team but there's no fix of this team the broke. That's not very positive. What about you. I will offer a solution. But i'm gonna agree with shannon. I think they're so broken. There's not a solution. Right now. But i would tell cow to alleviate sorry we love you but on the games where you give your giving is nothing you just gotta have a shorter leash and go to the bench. And i put isaiah jackson at the five and tell him we're gonna throw it up. Dunk everything you can. When you have the opportunity in block shots and then i just kinda go. Small starting denies eighty s. And i'm kind of going smaller on down from isaiah jackson. You know sorrow still good opportunities. If he's playing well making shots. Then i'm leaving. Sorry but there's games where he's been so inconsistent. I just feel like jackson has more than what we've seen so far like the game two games ago when he started and then play just a few minutes and didn't have foul trouble sits. He got more than that. So i'd like to see more isaiah jackson at the five all right so mine would be. I need you cow to promise me to things that work together number one you will never play sar jackson away or more than one of them at a time. I need you to put that in writing. I need it notarized. There's got to be a notary somewhere over there. You will not put more than one of those guys in at the same time in. My adding jackson is with your rule to not him with someone. Just you got to either sarge accident where only one of them is ever in at the same time and then as part of that the other four whoever they are are going to spread the floor. And we're going to try to play modern basketball now. We might miss every shot but we got a better chance doing that. Then what we're doing what we've been doing and i would say the other four spread the floor. Try to beat off the dribble play. I keep saying this play like alabama. We won't be as good as them and say we can't shoot as well but it's our only james van our big. We'll get some room in that scenario to get like you said offensive rebounds etc gifts sar chance i mean when we get if we spread out with four and you get the baldassare. He might score. So that's what i would do. And then see what happens in maybe shannon's right. Maybe even with that offense you lose fifteen but it leads forgiving yourself a chance. Here's what i know doesn't work what we're doing now. Our offense of execution to this point has been horrible. It's i mean more one of the worst ever. I think our offense efficiency rating is the worst since they started keeping it and kim palm it all goes to just crowding that middle so much boston. You know critical of him. But i think boston he's suffering part of the reason they're planning to me big guys give him some room. Where if he wants to go in and throw it will flip shoddy. Has he at least has the space to do it. So that's mine. Drew is jackson jackson. Rinus zone and shannon is give up and just go into a different world. I would maybe suggest given dante allen more than twenty two minutes a game because he started last game but he talk. Listen i think he should play more. But it doesn't the hundred and eighty seven minutes and no assists. worry now. He's a shooter. he's not a passer actually he. Has i got an email last night. They corrected last the last box score. I'll they correct. They must have hired. We don't need dot correct. I'm pretty sure that it's allen. I think they took one from boston. And you're telling me last night. They corrected the boxer for wednesday to give me my to say. I don't want to be wrong. But i'm pretty sure i saw that. They didn't want it to be zero on small update to wednesday nights. Follow box score at nine thirty nine. Nine hundred thirty eight mark. Boston was incorrectly awarded. Assist the should be changed dante. There you go there we go. What more do you want dante. Allen finishes the game with one. Assist in boston finished with zero dot. They on the board. That's actually really funny. We all were like you know you have an assist and they go. You know what we looked back at it. We'll make one. We'll give him one. So there you go. Shaded is very very pessimistic. I am pessimistic but not jaded. Little eight five nine me five. Oh two five. seven one. Eighty seven seventy seven four five two five four. We'll take your calls ride living his dressed up lexington club here he get. Maybe we'll be right back to talk to matt jones. And the crew called clark's pump and shop online at five. Oh two five. Seven hundred eighty or one eight. Seven seven four eighty. Orson does the kentucky brandon kessler tweet of the day by twenty matt ky. Sports radio and partner. There's a tiger in the and you can talking. Sports radio on. Tong quarterback take sports radio sheets. Got a lot of comments about our boy here at the lexical. Yeah one person writes mad is when etienne barney went to the esquire club. In the andy griffith show shane. You remember that episode. I really fit in. And i think that's kind of what we have here and barney didn't get invited right. Yes that's right. Invited sorta like withdrew. Now we're the barney this go to lunch together. One person says matt is the lexington club a little bit like the lower arena in rock. It's a good question. A lot of bedazzled sweaters. You think a male only male only one of the oldest. Men's club in the united states started in the eighteen sixties. They still do. The male only male only yesterday waiting list fifteen year long waiting list to get in no. There's said waiting list of men to get in. they're inviting. you got it as again. Are you going to get. Are you jumping the waiting lives. I should be. I think one of my pep talks. Rip my shirt off for the guys. Do you have to pay to be in the lexington club. Probably there's probably dues. I would support a private luncheon. You two thousand island dressing with you on. Fridays with sunseed flowers on your salad. Chance of ryan leading silverware today pants. What is what is the chance he still something it's gotta be. It's gotta be. I keep thinking back to. When we were in canada with the glass ambassadors we had a full trial eighty in the us embassy in canada. I was convinced he was going to steal something. We and shannon. We were gonna end up in a difficult situation. We were sitting there all of a sudden we hear glass break out with glass broke at the restaurant. We had whole trial dry. Said he didn't still anything and then we took. We took the little piece glass that had the name on it back to the original place and they said yeah. This is ours. I forgot yes. You did steal a glass candidate. That was so much fun. I was arguing in my tail off. Try to convince you arguing. You're live that's not. I mean that's not. Let's not act like it was an argument. You were lying and saying you didn't steal a glass for people who don't know this story quickly we were. We were we. Were going kind of bar hopping and we were at one bar. And they had these unique classes. Yeah got to the knicks bar. Nerves italian restaurant and all of a sudden we hear a crash and a glasses broke it right and we look down and it's a bar from the glass from the bar. We had just been to and we were like ryan. You stole that glass. And you're like and like so. You're saying that other bars restaurants just happens. The glasses happens to be here and you argued that. Oh yeah until you. Finally you got drunk and said yes. That was my the next day i said. Of course i took the waitress said no. This is not our glass. We don't have glasses like this and this restaurant and that's how we need to the end and five would fit my coat. Pocket is jim. Host hosted the lexington club. Oh i bet he will be. I didn't think about that. Yeah he'll be he'll probably be there. We know pick roll. Is brad pickerel. And now maybe the elite of the elite of lexington. And then you brought that shirt. And i'm gonna be my tummy. Tommy middle finger. That was the shirt you wanted for the elite of the elite. I think it's the only one that'll fit at the moment. Well see he wanted to wear just enough to get to the door but not enough. They expect to donation so founder. Little book donation. Yeah who's up. Fires start with gary gary. What's up gary. What you're to do to live in the chicago airport They caught. I'm real familiar with that. Air base there and i spend a lotta time. They found him. And i'm not surprised at all that he got away with it. Because there's so many people that crash overnight in that airport and spend time that airport we mean there are so many people that crash. It's just a place. People go to sleep well that area around gift twelve. There's a hallway there and you'll see people there all the time like families and stuff white on flights and a lot of times people will just miss flights like you'll get glenn locker midnight and be taking a flight out of the next bank twenty seven eight in the morning and people stay overnight in that airport all the time. Stand that but like after three and a half months you'd be like haven't we seen this guy a few times. I just clearly. I give him credit but it's it seems surprising to me. That's a little embarrassed because number one with count virus. Many passengers run around airport. Obviously and that's right around the corner from chicago. Police department substation. Yeah well i appreciate. It's very strange to me. But clearly it worked out. Well he was off. He was on his way to india and didn't get on his fight. India that's how this fall started. Appreciate call are you worried like is this gonna be. I old people one room. I mean there is a covid. Yeah we thought about that. I did think about that. You know we all mass cup and be safe. i'm sure they'll have social distance seating. I'm assuming yeah yelling and they're not gonna be able to hear you trust him. Hey listen i'm i'm for it. I just wish that we could go because it sounds it. Sounds excellent good work for you guys. I found the first thing in the post trump era that i really like the first thing that i found that trump has done in the recent year in the recent few months that i actually approved you. What that is yeah. We'll tell you right after all. What t- on kentucky sports about his job. Welcome back to kentucky. Sports radio into by stopped in mortgage. 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But hank aaron died just just moments ago. Totally bums me out. I mean always baseball. Stars of my era have died within the last year. I mean just on top of my head. I said hank. Aaron joe morgan lou. Brock don gibson don sutton just a couple of days ago. Tom seaver on whitey ford. That's a lot in just a few months baseball and coaching music. Got hit really hard with the dais. Hank aaron prior to his passing would he have been the most famous living baseball player. I think so. Yeah i mean the the man the what he went through in that home run chase. You know you read those stories about what he went through and the death threats to him and his family just an amazing story just makes me so sad bummed me out braves. Legend obviously didn't watch too young. But i that famous video hit number seven fifteen in the guys running the basis basis with him and he held that record until bonds and company started chasing it. So an absolute legend for major the people who shannon were braves fans. Like i was when i was a kid. You still are. Andrew is as well i mean. He's iconic part of the whole thing he would be on games when we were kids. Any on wrestling's of dams to but really really really sad. Just him commentating during the playoff run. Just this past season he'd pop in on things and thoughts so it does feel like we have lost an unbelievable amount of like you're right. I think baseball and country music have been the two things that have gotten hit over the last little bit and not and big name. You know country music big names and baseball babies or big name guys. It is sad. Mean really was a unifying figure in sports. And i think he was really bitter for a long time after he left baseball because the way he was treated but then i think he's later years became a spokesman for baseball and was an administrator. What had to be difficult. I mean there was a whole group of people who just didn't want him to break through all yes and he still did it and he was very old when he broke it. I mean he was kind of little chunky kind on his last legs but Sad to hear and prayers to his family. So here was the thing. I was saying that the i just found out about trump. Yesterday this goes into the one of the handful of things that i decided. I'm okay with roll. The tape shannon. He had installed in the white house. A button yeah that he would push and every time he pushed it someone would bring him a diet coke. That's all that at a diet coke. But i mean his death. That is one of the most amazing things i've ever heard not just a button. Hey someone come here. I bet that's happened before but a button of bring me a diet coke next to a phone. Where presumably just like any of the buttons would connect you to the same person. That's going to get you the dying. I don't want to have the conversation. I just want the diet coke. I think that's part of the negotiations. When we start remote again you got a little red button you hit and they bring you back. It is ridiculous. But i have to say i have to salute it because if i if i was thinking to myself if i could have a button of the one thing i would want upon button pushing it probably would be a diet coke but on the desk in the oval office where you need to maybe connect with any of the world leaders at any time now. I don't want that. I wanna button it. I've met a diet coke at any moment. The meantime ridiculous that. I can't help but like it. It's right next to the nuclear button. You get to where you're going you don't wanna hit the wrong one. Brings you world. They had it installed to the resolute desk. It is just a little red button. And if you didn't know you would think man that's gotta be important. I mean that desk able to red button. What can it do. And then you get some kid in there and just hit it multiple times they bring like a twelve. Max of diko that to me is hilarious right. Who's up next jeremy. Jeremy how are you hear me good. How you guys doing good real quick comments. Now hang up and let you guys discuss. I'm on kinda elaborate on you guys. Talking about the things calcutt or would chains. I think you're dead on about playing one big. And i think they should play a lot more four out one in motion opening up the floor a little bit and then you can run some high ball screen stuff when jackson and and run pick and roll with ham and then when you got saw a little bit more pick and pop and i think that'll give you some more opportunities for those wing guys get into the lane and make a few plays and play a lot more uptempo. They're really bad in the half court and you might as well get out and run a little bit and and see what you can do out in the open court but and last ryan nail my salad right on the button. Same way i ate it have a good day guys i don't see a whole lot of like ranking the salad dressings where does thousand island come in range. I think is the most popular salad dressing. Then what do you think is second. Is it Italian slash granny. Things are second. A blue cheese is high on the list log. People don't like it but that's way up there for me thousand nine anita wild four thousand hours to me is gross. We look at any salad bar used to have salad bars and the thousand islands always almost empty. Because i always go for always almost empty. I think that says a lot always ask for more thousand. The only thing that i liked thousand hours on this is like a sour aruban. Yeah that's it everything else. It just so chunky and gross. It's delicious has fallen off the face of the earth french. Yeah because my dad loves it and he has to always ask. There's never out any more recently. Had forgotten about it added to it. Gone it feels. Like i used to always be french and now they've just said no more bridge. Who said no more. Every time i go fridge anymore. I out any more. I know that because my dad always wanted the always has to ask for it a way. Anyway what makes that like. Is there something about people from france that they liked that read stuff. I don't know it's it's more of ketchupy thing to me the flagship and ranch and it makes together what it looks like to me. Who's next let's go to andy. Andy how are you doing. Good started her. By hank hank aaron died braves fan. I hate that Lighted anyway. But i don sutton bad you know you guys probably know. I'm certain at back and play on to ryan does play in back on the picking for the dodgers. I know as a now in the game for the braves nuggets on busy. Yeah he did down for many. Many years skipped carry don sutton and what was the other guy. Deep-vein weird that's right. Go ahead Yeah i mean. I would thrilling shannon on i this year. I can't rationalize the team. No more but if i was going to give one piece of advice it would be happy about this cal. Play a lineup. Our than three or four minutes. I mean let's get used to playing with each other a little bit. Not just in practice on the court. Maybe that might help the offense law little bit and the last thing is since. I have pretty much given up this year. I mean i know. I'll i'll watch every single game but next year we're gonna have a second year. Fighters looks like an and the past. We have very good success. That your flight. And i think they've all eighty. I think you're right. There's reason for optimism. But i want to stick on this year. Everybody i just give up yet and we're just halfway through the year. Let's get through. But i agree with you the second year and he's going to be good. I think there'll be a lot of good dude's coming back. I mean i walked into the rest of the games. Can you honestly say that. We have a shot at the ncaa tournament. And i appreciate the call. No i mean not unless we win the sec tournament. I mean but but that i'm still gonna watch. I'm still going to be absurd to be interested. We've decided to do starting monday here. What's not for this saturday. 'cause we got the pappy promotion but starting monday. Yeah every game you come watch here if you watch. If we lose however much we lost by you get that much off your bill. Would that would be a great promotion but it is it. Is either you win or you get a disc. Especially if we're going to be honest we could be in the middle of a seven game losing streak. You know the first two games of this promotion. yeah alabama. yeah we could be taking van your win so every point like if we're losing the theory is people be less loose about more but if we win you kind of win either way right if we win the happiness of the winning and if we lose then you do like that as a promotion. Rick me if i'm wrong. How bad did alabama beat us type twenty and it was the biggest loss of the carrier. So my theories. It ain't gonna be worse than that and that was where at home. But i understand that that sounds like a bad thing with this promotion. I actually want to change my plan to cow. Sit on the ball in the corner. Slow it down yes. I've a final two five seven one eighty at kyi sports radio. Well wait and do this. And we'll be right back to talk to matt jones and the crew. Call the clark's puppet shop phone line. Five to seven one. Ten eighty or one eight seven. Seven thousand four hundred eighty drinks. Champagne gold in kentucky on kentucky. Sports radio on talk radio tanny. Welcome back sports radio babble to five seven one eighty x machine seven to simpson four five two five four one person writes i think a lot of these dudes if they come back and have a pj washington or emmanuel quickly. Second your impact. I don't think bj. boston comes back. But i think everybody else does. Do you think that's possible possible. I don't know i mean i think. Bj i think you should assume is gone. Something could happen where he returned back. You should assume he's gone. I think terence. Clark likely if i had to bet right now would come back. Because i don't think he'd get picked as ajax. It'll be the one that you just have to wait and see. He's kind of in many ways. Drew like pj washington. Who could have gone after that first year probably gotten picked thought about decided to come back. It worked out for amino up getting picked a little higher. We'll see yeah. Hate senator dole out to not sound like tennessee football. About how next year but internally. I'm very excited about next year's team. Because usually you have one or two guys back and you hope they make the jump. But you're gonna have a group like five or six a couple really make a big jump to have a good team. Of course. Asthma boy oscars we bay. You'll be fiscal inside guards. We'll see i'm guessing modified do after this season but i think next year has a lot of potential and be a good one which is another reason people wanting to run cal off. This has been off wanting most of it is on him but next year could be a fun year and let me also note whatever year cal leaves. Let's keep this in mind. Whatever your he leaves that next year we will have any playoffs. And i mean none. They'll all go to the draft like we'll literally have a roster of like two people. I've always thought that the year after he leaves we'll be the worst roster kentucky could have because we won't have any guys like they'll all go so like the day that happens. Get ready for that next year. Going to be tough. Yeah it'd be a mass exodus by everybody. Five two five seven one eighty birthrights matt. Big macs have thousand island. I like him on that. But that's true that special sauces really kinda sure. Sort of thousand island. I'm with you. Ruben is where it's appropriate. The i i love a. There's a place in louisville called stevens and stevens. You stevens and stephen shannon the stevens and stephen never heard of it. It's like a sandwich place on bardstown road. They're only open for lunch. They only do sandwiches soup. It's like a new york daily. Yeah they they have the best same which is in the state of conduct if us one a sandwich right. It's awesome and they do a turkey ruben. It's it's great. I highly recommend stephen. It's only open from like ten. Am to two pm all day. But that's it those places like that always have the best sandwiches. This is a place like that and frankfurt downtown. We go to sometimes had those little daily down. What's the name of the play. I never remember the name of it. It's really good that little daily. What's it called the stuff. It's like a who's like the lexington clump of ood frankfort. Yeah it's called baggies or blaby a never remember the name of it get it. We'll get in a minute. Let me ask you a question. I want a little debate here. Shannon amy bashir was asked yesterday whether or not they were going to vaccinate the people in prisons and his answer was of course we are but then the question was when where on the priorities list should people be that are in prison. Should they be if you look at deaths next to nursing homes the place where the most people have died or prisons. Because if you think about it. They're in an encapsulated space without access to help a lot of healthcare etcetera and so there are people who argue that prisons should be like after we do seventy five and older. They should be next native. We're probably going to. He said not sure. We're probably going to do it after healthcare workers and teachers but he insinuated. That might come after that. Some people think it shouldn't something i've seen some people say they should be last. What do you think wind. Would you vaccinate people in prisons understanding that they did something wrong to get there but they may be more vulnerable to it then the regular population my immediate thought went to the healthcare workers healthcare professional. That's already been done right now. We're on teachers. Teachers is a definite. I would go after teachers would you. The question is would you take prison population before general population because of their vulnerability. And that's a great debate to have. What do they give perks for being in prison. It's not a part. Well i mean. That's that's the side of the argument that the canada that is by numbers they're dying at a substantially higher margin because of the nature of confined indoor system. That they can't they can't control now saying it would probably make the point that could've controlled if they didn't do it and i'm not i'm not saying that's wrong but if you knew if you know shannon that they're more likely to die than the general population. Does it make sense to let them know if i want the vaccine. I'm a good citizen. I'm not imprison. Why do they get it before i do. Because they're more likely to die well. They shouldn't have been prison. I mean that's your. Yeah what about you all. I would try to put it. I don't know how you could pull this off. But just somewhere in line of where they would be if not in prison if they're thirty years old than i'd do it with the rest of the general population if there's other people in prison on might try to get them one faster but i wouldn't put them higher or move them even lower. I'd kinda squeeze him in right where they do. I understand that's actually. I hadn't thought of that position we do do that. Though with other populations. I mean we do say like if you're a teacher you're ahead if there's also the why we do that with healthcare workers and teachers because they're more vulnerable. Should we not do it for prisoners. That are more vulnerable agr- but they're also they're not spreading it everywhere there in that wants to teachers you know. They're seeing everybody they're going out and then they're going out and they're going out. I mean it's awful that they're vulnerable in prison but it's also still just at that person i would just kind of based on that fit right in where we heck. I don't know what i'm mid thirties. When do i get to go. I'd say the mid thirty prisoners. Go when i get to go. What about you ryan. I'm almost leaning towards the hierarchy that after the teacher. Maybe we need to give it to the prisoners because they have no control. They can't go anywhere and it is killing them off at a fast much faster race pace in our general population interesting. Because i i'm with you. Okay i i would say after healthcare workers and teachers i would go with them. But it's interesting you get three completely different opinions here and this is like the three sides of the debate because it's my view is like they're vulnerable and if they're vulnerable the whole point is to help the vulnerable right. The i get what shannon same but at the same time they're still human beings you know and the the number is really small. I mean in the grand scheme of society. The amount of those present is a small number. So that's what i would do but it's interesting. I'm not saying anybody's wrong. That is a debate. Being had right now is where do you put them because after after they think most teachers will get a next week. Then it's kind of on for the general public and the question is d. You put those prisoners before you kinda is on for the general public i would. If it's on for the general public you know. The sad thing is the story is now like in california and florida near. They're running out of the vaccine. Kentucky's actually done a very good job. We are in the top ten in the country. In percentage of the people being vaccinated. You know you know. What's the number one state in the country. For percentage of people getting vaccinated. No west virginia really. Would you would never have imagined. I would have never imagined that and kentucky's in the top ten but like california's near the bottom yeah alabama's near the bottom. It's not even really clear it's really about whether or not the states have been effective in getting it out and sort of doing and kentucky's actually been pretty good. The california has been terrible. Yeah but west. Virginia's number one which you would never imagine. Who's next ron ron. What's up on. Yes hello yes go ahead. Yes my opinion of the team is dante allen show. Me yeah go ahead sir. Yeah my opinion of the team is with dante allen in the game when they put him in one corner the other corner and he just seems to stand there looking for the ball. He doesn't really move around enough to get the ball and then when they try to set a screen for they don't really set the screen or he doesn't move quick enough to get the ball and then the other problem you have. You're talking about these kids coming back next year. What good is it if they come back. And they're not shooters so you've got kids coming back. That are not center would be the answer to that would be. You hope they get better at it right. I mean some people become better shooters. Some people don't some people look at nick rigorous he couldn't shoot it all his freshman year and vice junior year was a pretty good shooter. Mid range all your seeming that but that's an assumption. The one the one thing that i would say one thing that i would say that you you might be able to help yourself and that might be able to help this team. He's could send this whole team including the coaching staff. Some of your nut does and maybe they could grow appear. Oh drop off.

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Political Theater: Katy Tur & Anita Kumar Plus Peter Marks

The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

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Political Theater: Katy Tur & Anita Kumar Plus Peter Marks

"Todd cast well it was a split screen night here in the district I'm being generous. The nationals won the pennant sweeping the Saint Louis cardinals heading to their first good afternoon from Washington Chuck Todd and this is the chuck it just seemed to benefit Russia both decisions were made despite the official part of the president's administration and I say this because I you know congressional Republicans are trying to create and say Ukraine is different from Turkey and yet a lot it because we have the Turkey and Syria situation which feels very acute in the moment and need a you're over there at the White House so I don't know how split screen it really was but I'll pretend it was split screen so the Democrats took the debate stage outside of Columbus Ohio we're going to talk about what we learned from there's a lot more similarities than there are differences it it it first of all all seem to begin with a phone call it both decisions seemed to benefit a certain and a Nieta and I'd like to tackle this for few minutes is at what point to Syria that's the seriousness and Ukraine and impeachment begin to merge down trying to put out there you know doing their regular job and trying to figure out what's next I think the biggest unknown and this is I think it Katie depends on who you're asking about and it depends on the moment of the day if president trump is tweeting or saying something then we might be back to Syria but the overall thing I think we're GonNa talk to Peter About that but first I'm joined today by my colleague the One and Only Katy Tur plus Anita Kumar White House correspondent associate editor at politico and an it is consuming the president more and what is consuming the staff more impeachment or Syria and is the answer different depending on who I'm asking about people are talking about is impeachment and what is it me but there's really nothing a lot of them can do about it right it's coming from the president coming from the lawyers so the staff is just kinda putting their head it's suddenly we went from two front runners to one Elizabeth Warren apparently is the lone front runner if you just came from Mars and watch that debate last night back in Washington the impeachment inquiry continues taken old colleague friend of mine from our White House press corps days back back in the Obama years that was that the last decade Anita seem so long ago I don't I don't even remember it was to be talking the most later in the show joined by Peter Marks he's the theater critic of the Washington Post to talk about the performance at last night's debate this time when unanimously lobbying against the decision you made up freezing aid or pulling troops from serious so I it does feel like these stories have more in common than they than they don't Katie I think we asked this question the other day on my show is is this the perfect storm for the trump president the fourth primary debate I actually watched this morning I went to the came I will admit that but I did watch and listen to it this morning and yes and the National Security Council were both sidelined by what was going on with Ukraine and the so-called three Amigos and suddenly now are the ones that seem love it the post has been trying to do this it's like okay if if journalists Wannabe Theater critics for debates then let's let a theater critic actually do it so Republicans get fed up with his policy in Syria as Lindsey Graham continues to criticize it at what point do they say they look at the polls see both the impeachment inquiry and what's happening in Syria because again you just laid out there they're they're calm they're parallels both foreign policy and as up all the oxygen is Nancy Pelosi announced that has Democrats aren't going to take a formal vote yeah and new details continue to emerge every day about how officials at the State Department you know the the the the last republic right some people. It's it's I don't it's tough to know where to begin today because in harm's way and then what's happening on this Ukraine call why is Rudy Giuliani making an end run around the White House wire is State Department official cities now connected to Turkey as well so there's also like he had a sidecar operation with Ukraine aside car operation with Turkey where I guess he's a bounty hunter when you have two people of the stature of Michael Flynn and of Rudy Giuliani who seemed to be able to who seem willing to risk their own professional lives too say the support for impeachment maybe the public looks and says what is he doing what's happening in Syria why is he letting Isis fighters break phrase putting American is is fighting back it's revolting against Mike Pompeo it's revolting against the presidency and I think it becomes harder for the White House to make this argument that this is the deep state I think it's harder for Republicans to say oh it's not fair the way the Democrats are doing it when when it seems like the State Department officials they may be able to take care of it and you're just going wow I and I think we're all wondering does how how much of the Republican Party will be willing to go down that road with him now trying to get a cleric by by the way this is what I was not telling you in advance what how much money is air to one offering in order to get that cleric get this guy for air to one how like I said if it were a bounty and you told me there's fifty million dollars I'd be like well okay it was money what is it when he stuck with it hasn't he feel like he's he stuck with it partly because he's never wrong right he's never wrong can think of one thing family separate Asian at the border where he relented but he has to stick with it because he was right I will say that while we were hearing all these Republicans about this the Turks can handle this everybody else hey I think at one point he said they nobody likes Isis Arandas he's right right Arandas unlike isis Russia doesn't like Isis it's fascinating and the way he spinning it I think is very helpful to Putin it's much more of a non this is this is their problem we don't have to worry funny they need they might both feel invincible with this they might not feel like there are real consequences but I mean again the the State Department are very willingly going over there to say they know and they all say the same thing which is really Giuliani was making an end run around the White House in order to to pressure Ukraine gene and there's a reason why I've been saying now for a year that Elizabeth Warren potentially has crossover with some trump voters in unexpected places because the the I think there is a point potentially where they where they do merge and I wonder what that does to the poll numbers on impeachment and what that does to his Republican firewall in the Senate surprising that he's sticking with it what is the pricing is that he did this right in the middle of impeachment right He needs these Republicans more than ever right his political life is the baseline of a number of trump voters on all of them was the Sunnis need to change Washington at wasn't working this and you literally have people that compartmentalize Turkey from Ukraine Syria from Ukraine when the Russians didn't they have viewed that as their around the world the same thing that trump is doing it doing but she's just doing it and I am more cogent way trump seems to do things that he says he's Nina what I'm trying to figure out here is where we're to today the president is again embracing decision and why do I want to get in a fight with Turkey there NATO ally again razor you said to go I just don't want to say I can't understand why the president makes decisions on organic disruption and she is going she's using populism as her message she's using focus on at home focus on the country before you focus on on what's Happening Thank Katy Tur you tell me Elizabeth Warren so she was not lost on me that I heard it wasn't just what the I knew she title reconstitute Isis to me the surprising thing is it gets back to your connection before which is it's not surprising he did it's not surprising he says this and it not it's we're speaking in the Panama papers I mean he's used his position to accumulate well so it wouldn't be surprising but anyway sorry in you know Capitol Hill go crazy I heard from a number of all right who a number of people who said people out in the country are eating this up they love it is what they will crane in Turkey and Syria I just don't understand what is the common denominator and you're just sitting there going the comet every time he does something where he will most important foreign policy objectives and this president has fulfilled them. I don't have an aunt don't get it I don't have an answer to it I mean I keep going back and it sounds flippant but I keep going fully just doesn't ever listened to his advisors and you hear all the leaks why is it it's not a random move it always to the benefit of one country about your businesses he pushes back but he's actually said it himself what the decision by the Democrats not to do the vote on impeaching born policy agenda and it is this one always Russia it's always Russia I hate to sound like a Russia photo but my God it's staring us in the face dictate what it does it seems to almost over worry about looking like it's letting trump dictate what it does I don't understand why they're over thinking this on impeachment put everybody on the record everybody's on the record anyway so put everybody on the record I don't really understand it either maybe they don't want to feel like they need to bend to the president's will We had the similar belief that she almost used his leg when no foreign wars which almost his language I was like wow that's where you're like when we talk about the pension wanted to hear they support it and so as long as he's hearing that it's going to be really hard for him to come back in you know who used his rhetoric on Middle East wars at the democratic debate eh when it swings big enough it eventually they can swing all the way around there's a lot lot more in common there as we always said there was crossover for Bernie Sanders in Two Thousand Sixteen Act is tweet in two thousand thirteen going to Moscow for the Miss Universe pageant will Putin be my best friend I mean he tweeted that in series Davis the Saudis I have a lot of customers that are Saudis they spend a lot of money I mean he has said it out loud and so when the White House are when when the president hears Oh it's to do and we seem surprised I'm he did say he was going to do this actually I'm getting out of Syria and he'd say it all the time and by the way all of his primary opponents said that's crazy you're just administration officials and why not do it so everyone can see it in her her explanation was that she believes they're they're working like a grand jury were I'm Pennsylvania yesterday and I asked her about all these closed door deposition all this closed door testimony that they're getting from did this fundamental change throw a bomb in it and Elizabeth Warren is offering a visit that's right she's control she's organized disruption he's an organized this versus saying that if this were an impeachment inquiry would have and now this was something that wasn't part of the current investigation I there is a strand of concern Turkey now everything with air has been a wealth creator for himself so ever since he became a church Turkey I mean he's no different than Putin I think he's a billionaire I think some of this got exposed if I'm not six I don't think people wanted to be on the record but I do think there's some of it what that Nancy Pelosi says we don't have to do it and she's been told by impeachment experts what they're doing is they're doing everything they can before the impeachment inquiry starts they're gathering all the information there are leading the trump administration started before the political ramifications. I I guess at home but again you're right they've already been on the record for supporting an inquiry so I'm not sure how vote would change things I was talking to Chrissy Hulan Bowl she's the Oklahoma Democrat that that one on the other hand how many Republicans in the that are left in the northeast one on the record Anita on this too right like it's a trick it it this is again where I think in in in this is my way of transitioning also to the presidential primary which is for a party that it is tired of having trump works they're having witnesses come in testify to what they know they're gathering all the information so that when they do come out and have publicly but Kendra Horn and and Democrats are on the record on this maker pick between leadership in in in trump districts say Kendra horn being the most extreme exam hiring is they have everything in their arsenal their not allowing people to coordinate testimony they're going to have it all they're gonNa lay it out all that I buy I just think that I devote it is a tricky vote and I think that the president knew that they weren't going to do it they if they were going to do it they would have done it three weeks ago and I do think it was pulled policy thrown preservation versus trump preservation. That's a big deal it is a big deal and it's just it's I mean I understand what people are saying when they testify is so important but better they'll finally have the vote and they find we've done it we need we've done this now we need the rest of it from you guys and then expose that they never were intending to chip that way let me just ask a bunch of questions to you guys there's a lot of analysis anita that says Joe Biden disappeared the mere fact that they're showing up is huge let's move to the presidential race the debate I definitely people say that I mean it's not just Turkey though obviously he has properties all over the place and people are often saying he said it the president has said it himself you know here's the thing and you mentioned it earlier which is they don't need they don't need the White House to say will cooperate if there's a vote because they're already getting cooperation they're getting announces a bit polluted in watching it on tape delay because I saw Oh okay Warren was the center so once you have it framed for you you can't help but rating but it seems like so far I mean even Gordon someone's going to do that I mean I do think there are more and more individuals who are starting to think about it's like the thing that people keep saying to me and I you know will air to one I can't help but go there with their two because air to one look he this gold trader staked on it and he but doesn't don't understand he has them regardless he's got a strong obviously he does because at some point I keep wondering windass reality set in Nope I I had the luxury I don't know if it's good or bad thing to start watching the debate after obviously I've seen some commentary I don't like doing that so I actually feel like my my they asked about impeachment and we wanted to all hear that question we wanted to hear the answer rather what they say about his son and all that and so we did and then it proceeded a bit of legal opinion that is that is basically saying look we're con trick constitutionalists that this is done through the impeachment process we're not gonNA stand in the way it just would speed things up group of the Non Warren candidates are realists then you know so it's if to me it's very interesting how critics warned get framed yeah no I think that's really lost again the establishment country wants it is it is cleaning and what you're seeing is is you've got Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth I I find it amusing that that trump thinks that there's an I get like there's one part of the Republican Party that thinks this is a hundred percent going to benefit them more cooperation oh my God I completely agree I mean the the interesting thing here is I you know we cover this as if the White House hasn't Cooper there's people that studied this they don't actually have to do with it will I on one hand that may be true and legally but the problem they have is go read the descent stage but my my biggest question is I'm not sure that selling going back to a status quo or going back to the Obama years a Pete Buddha judge their release genuine concern about a people to judge potentially coming in and taking over that that moderate slot that Biden is said to have complete control over at the moment is enough in twenty twenty I think would voters wanted from what I was talking to them about is they want this they want on my rows descent in the in the in sheep she was one of three judges in the circuit that did it the descent on I think it had to do with tax returns right and to be a debate like the last three debates I mean after that first question it was just it was the regular debate but all the attention was on Elizabeth Warren every single person was calling on Elizabeth Warren and Z. as their their biggest threat Joe Biden is still relatively high up there but he's not as high as he once was and now there's more concern about that's a good distinction and I think they will be considered the establishment if they do not win an immigrant warrant to get the nomination you can sort of I'm gonna I'm Gonna I'm GonNa do assign reference apologies there's been part of me that is wondered do I need to start to adopt the George Costanza premise which is he's like a political therapist he makes everything sound manageable and not so overwhelming it's his great gift and why what what what is what gives credence at Biden sort of disappeared oh I think I watched it in real time I thought he sort of did disappear right out of the bath born on one side and then people I think vying to Bernie Sanders and to be Joe Biden when Joe Biden is no longer in the race and when I talked to campaigns about who they either chaotic disruption or organize disruption they're tired of both of it and that is something that I think that like I look at Pete and I think disagree with that but they care more about some stability well let me let me ask and so the question is is right now Democratic Party what seems like the the obvious political answer assume the assumed that both parties will do the opposite and I say this in that because side is that there is this visceral hatred for Donald Trump and what he's doing and that any nominee they put up will be better than Donald Trump I do think there's a larger chunk in the middle that is exhausted there's a large chunk in the middle of that is tired of the chaos that wants they may want more fundamental change I don't the first one look at the letter the White House set it said go have a vote but it didn't say they were going to give them anything if they did do did I just think but here's the thing the vote in the trump administration say we'll cooperate if you have a vote will cooperate if you have a dod will cooperate and but look at the whatever tributed some British soccer thing that people were shutting down our throats in this country but the mental change voters talking about I mean I do think that that we focused a lot on we we focus and this I'd say I wonder where Elizabeth Warren goes in general I genuinely wonder where she goes in the general if she is to get nation and then to I think what the Democrats have on this two hundred and you were part of the time you were like where did Joe Biden go he was just one of the one of the regular people on stage is the divide of the Party now katy the progress it I just my question from being on the trail in two thousand sixteen I've got a lot of questions about how Democrats are presenting themselves on the lives and the realists and I say it this way if the if if if the non worn Biden win rings wins they become realists if they lose their they stylish rent I think there has been going pretty fast but the risk is the courts slowing them down right that's all I wonder I wonder if world series the first world series in Washington DC since nineteen thirty are- think about that FDR just coming into the White House and it's also why he sometimes there's there's lax there's a lack of urgency right because he's he's call right he is he's the epitome of that what's the sign that the menu united likes to you is it keep keep calm Kerryon Kerryon their their motto. Yeah I mean you know it's sort of like that I say that way like if you're referring referring to them as the establishment than you than its negative connotation if the actually anybody can win except Bernie and and and that moderate that middle part of the base at says the middle part of the base that says I want to be and I think that that's Elizabeth Warren's I think it's I think it's Donald Trump's biggest weakness and I think it's Elizabeth warns biggest weakness which is there is a chunk of voter doesn't want kids'll blaming in the moon landing but you're right at some point like what you just want to be this transaction or is it or is I mean does he have financial interests needier looking suit well you know that that is the framing we're GonNa Start to see I think you're right about what people talk especially if one of them ends up beating her for the nomination and then loses to Donald Trump it'll be the establishment calming carry on I always thought it was man you I was like they adopted from World War Two during the bombing feel that mainly use it all the time but what but it doesn't I don't know if there's a full-fledged constituents who for it so let me let me let me play devil's advocate here at one liberty I don't know if I want someone so progressive they're going to turn out just by virtue of it being somebody who's GonNa go against Donald Trump and what the Democrats really need not so much like the the the two-time Obama voters trump voter is to excite everybody that didn't turn out for Hillary disagree that that's a theory is a case so what's left in this democratic race to figure out because in some ways I feel like we sort of know we're waiting to see didn't isn't eroding asset you're waiting to see is it still viable by the time the voters begin nfl they are by the way he still in the nomination he just sort of limps to the nomination the air she could be making right now is I think sh- she's being exposed as just another politician in her ref- inner inner playing Word Games on taxes trap candidates get trapped in this all the time what they can't change yes because but because we said before we weren't GonNa do it so now we are admitting that we were wrong before right stamina stamina is what about stamina I think who can continue to seem to generate excitement going earn or is there any more wild cards left to pop or we sort of is this thing weirdly sorted itself that we don't know who the nominee is but we sort of have an idea that language like it sounds like like she's so stubborn about using the word cost you like well that's what a tip conventional consultant driven politician Bernie comes out and getting of our mistakes and I do believe anybody Andrew Yang you name it anybody probably other than I do I think it's hard to sell socialist in this country and I think that Bernie Sanders in presidents because the two parties are going to continue to rack this way where the basis Anita feel so empowered we can nominate anybody people are so fed up with the that they just want an alternative yes but it's gonna be everything will be lower because you won't be dealing with this cost and that cost your yearly budget will be better than if you some combination of warned Biden and the surprise third-place finisher in Iowa which right now feels like Buddha just the best candidate for that slot and you know we were wrong about Hillary Clinton we framed the election incorrectly thought it was GONNA be referendum on trump's character was a referendum on hers okay and and that may be the to do it then don't you think they should have already done wonder why if they were to do it why would take this long yeah what we kind of know where Warren is where which we're going to do to close that electability Gab we kinda were and it looks like the sort of the wildcard is there anything else left to learn I am totally doing something that my producers new I might do but you did not know which is I'm a believer if people wanted that person in the middle that stability mentioned they'd be doing better and primary voters but see this is the mistake primary voters are one thing and and in trying to really figure out whether somebody belongs in the echelons of a hall of fame is that you know at the minute you hear it whatever it is in sports you know at the mini Sade here's our healthcare plan here is how it's going to break down and cost and yes your taxes will go up this much but your costs will go down this then it's probably be beyond you have a healthcare private healthcare I don't know why she doesn't I don't I don't know unlike the rest of her that's the bad off that's my bigger argument it's off brand yeah it is all come out to their rallies that's what I would be watching more who continues to maintain the excitement on the ground not only in the in the early voting states but across the country it's very different from her other appearances and she did a good job but I don't know that it breaks out doesn't breakthrough I think there's a reason heard I think there's a reason that do me brothers yes or no yes waiver waiver they're Whitney Houston yes or no yes yeah the question is how are we defining rock and roll anymore it has to make their compromise right you're gonna I gonNA compromise and that's the point like she going to Elizabeth Warren the biggest eliminating them from our ballots all right all right and I just like it's really quick Pat Bennett Pat Benneteau yesterday hall of Famer yes yeah all right she's in Dave Matthews yes or no from my hometown okay Depeche Mode Hall of Famer yes or no no one really embracing the socialist label the last two weeks is a stunning decision by him that I think has just cost him a nomination but we cells in two thousand sixteen primary voters were were everything for for trump no I'm not saying that they won't be and once you get the nomination then you have to make in the middle aw yes rufus featuring shocker con- like how does that happen I don't know isn't it like well anyway all right todd illusionary yes MC five yeah I know had made you had me on that one I don't know motorhead that trump has that I mean he has maybe maybe they'll do is they'll come out with with a plan and they'll say hey here's and it doesn't actually make it authentic and in her defence of it is authentic and Warren isn't it it's weird I wonder if they're talking about it does it bother you that they haven't been able to at least everything that we're talking about bothers me because none of them had as long hundred wins because he was in the leak forever I actually you know what this conversation is making me realize by life is to focus run as fishes head they've been going since nineteen eighty-three they've got a dozens of albums save hundreds of songs they did they did a sixteen. I'm sorry Baker's dozen thirteen run God I don't want to work soundgarden yes or now wow all right you're not dudes dude band busy so tin lizzy isn't somebody I'm ready to put in the hall of fame but they should they should have they should have one of their one hits in like I think we should have a one one hit wonder wing wonder I wonder who's the another stubborn right now you're in a trap and now you she sort of did it yesterday I mean finally later in the debate she was called out on it but I don't know what he was really doing where your head is at and I liked them off everybody is passionate about these things so I'm just going to I'm going to roll out the nominees and if you don't immediately say yes then Ns Fish Don Sutton of this category you guys are going what the Hell is he talking about Don Sutton is a picture from the dodgers who had over three a sworn commitment to the constitution of the United States I'm Chuck Rosenberg I have had the privilege of taking that oath many times throughout my career in federal law enforcement and now ready left breakthrough look I don't know how amy Klobuchar had a good night she left it all out I give her credit in that this is it she knew it she news Dot Yeah and opinion in his last post Jim was the first navy admiral ever to serve as the supreme allied commander of NATO a position that had historically only been awarded you have to always balance the question of whether you can do the right job for the President I think what you owe a president is you're honest they're going into the debates where they are I think Warren Sanders so many generators parcells you you are what your record says you are famous football coach three Donald Trump and that's I'm serious I know that sounds silly I haven't thought about other things in a while I know I feel you all I will say is go down the rabbit hole into the chuck todd cast from when someone takes the oath they're making podcast the oath I speak with others who took an abided by that same promise this week on the oath I sit down with retired four star Navy Admiral James Stavridis and also we discover terrorism that's this week on MSNBC's the oath available now wherever you get your podcasts joining me now is Peter Background in politics I covered the two thousand presidential campaign for the New York Times when I was I took a break from theater criticism criticism there and covered media in the two thousand campaign so I know something I think about the subject and actually chuck what really bothered me was watching earlier in the year because he's the theater critic for the Washington Post and actually for the last few months he's been watching the twenty twenty Democrats and doing reviews of their speeches and the debates is if they were theater and so like this I love it damn right to take that Matt Rivera thank you both for great conversation with a pause right there back with Peter Marks after a quick break the army general's join me as I talked to Jim about the enduring importance of the NATO alliance when the Cold War ended a lot of people said well that's the end of NATO we don't need anybody to keep the being considered what they did being considered theater criticism that somehow evaluating aspects of the candidates behavior how they came across would be Russians out and for a while we kinda thought that and then what we discovered in the international security world is that Russia's still kind of dangerous zengin changes have because you gotta go out there and talk to the voters and either you're engaging exciting the voters or you are not and maybe it'll give him a but maybe a couple more people or a few more people put it this way I if she's nominated how do you say no Judas priest now how you guys are tough craftwork yes or no I mean just for being so the price they were nominated there should be happy they were nominated they should be happy just to be nominated yes yes I see what you guys listen to you natori Edgy you're you're a critic and that's what you do for a living your job is not to give everything to an F. Stars one of my favorite TV critics used to give everything every I don't give a darn anymore if I'm hated I don't and you have to get through that as of course it is it is especially when you critique for living how hard was it rock and Roll Hall of fame and you realize there's a million ways we could be doing this million better ways we can have fun with this as music lovers if the rock and Roll Hall of fame we know that's your useless useless and toothless you have to be you have to lay it on the line you can be you can do it in generous way sometimes it depends on is a woman rocker when there weren't a lot of women rockers and so she deserves like in a lot more than one hit economic status I love Dave Matthews I'm obsessed with the award and that's what I'd be watching for you right we know what we know about more we know but Bernie we know who biden is I think we have an idea of who judge and I feel like nobody else has an opportunity the project and what you're evaluating but you have to be willing to say things put it out there so that you become you absorb the reaction of people matter more not less and so I do believe we don't we have to spend time analyzing a debate in that way but we get overly apologetic because Matthew's Friday you're about to say but I'm not sure are they hall of fame worthy more than one he had a solid ten yet so what is our let in in the political analysis business who do believe style points Madder yes style counts you know totally we not only know that accounted I can easily see how this happened in the newsroom either you pitched or somebody pitched it to you I pitched it okay I'll go for tell me the story well you know I do have some a people many of the people who come on your show and other shows talking about a very pejorative terms the idea that they didn't like furious at you for liking it or hating it it's you know it happens both ways and so I will say this as a defense mechanism of social media many people yeah well Nixon won the Kennedy debate to on the radio how did that work I'm d you know I mean it is the longer I do this I don't I have I would I chose to do though chuck was I chose to go to see these candidates in action live before audiences so you're evaluating actors social media has done within the wings to basis particularly in the wings is they take every theater criticism as proof that they prepare how they they sort of just sort of weighed in very often and they've it feels like it's on the fly and that seems Amiss winning which is where this campaign is going to be decided in the early stages these people have an opportunity to present themselves anyway they really want their perceived as a lesser art which is this is I can I can at least it gave you the reasoning behind why we sound like we're being him brace it all right thank you guys thank you thank amusing me the chuck todd cast named if I'm going to call it to check podcast and I'm going to do stupid crap you know like I do this is my frustration Chombo Wamba Vian that do see you saw like Pat Banner Tar has this allows social media wing nuts to condition us otherwise and there's there's also sort of the heat watching of things like debates which becomes a sport there's something we we bring them we thought we'd bring him here feeder we thought we'd bring you hear this because the reason you did it and I have no doubt when I when I saw you do it and not one man one woman show and it's interesting to me how few of them actually take full advantage of what they've got when they've got a thousand people before them how little I I would take his performers yes but they have a lot in common with with actors because in those settings in town halls and meet and greets across the country in the in the retail part of campaign I'm just GonNa say it right now they're kind of it's kind of duty they are I you know what you're not wrong and I don't even know if well here's one Tinley we'll figure rather than as a two dimensional figure in her perform exactly right and and cheese and it it has given her also a complete comfort in how so it's not like going back to what you said about style versus substance well you know what both things exist in this in this ECO system they both go on its own the parallels there but with with Elizabeth Warren there is a integration very in a very sophisticated way of her personal story how that in who I think needs to figure out how to do his performance are Barack I think Elizabeth Warren has an act totally a good one right well let's go let's let's go to I do think Elizabeth is that percents of Famer you just sort of know it I'm obsessed at the rock and Roll Hall of fame you asking me a fish should be in the rock and Roll Hall Okay See I already warms who she is as a politician and as a a grown woman surviving in this so you might like she is developed herself as a like a three dimensional he tells her story itchy rolls it out in a way that by the end of it it's so compelling and forty minutes that you understand where the roots of what she thinks come from one of people leaves he is performing he has said this that he knows he has to put on a show I think the difference between Donald Trump and everybody else in the in the in this They had actually listen he'd actually but he was he was afraid of offending anybody we can't do that doesn't work I was just GONNA say or you're an unsuccessful much bigger than anybody else one of the reasons I think Donald Trump is a performer he's a bad performance interesting okay Donald Trump I thought about this a lot and I'm going to go to or an has figured out a show like there's a beginning middle and end right tell me as a storyteller yes she knows it and that's because she's also from a world issue from Harvard you just hate someone to you're you're you're you're you're making the process seem superficial you're too worried about style points not about substance and you just sit there and they all like in this touring circuit of speechmaking is that everyone else is garnering supporters trump is feeding fans loved him they loved that there is a space in in the in the in the public sphere for that kind of person and he and yes trump milks at but trump and scully and art professor was that darn good not that Vin scully now this is another sports cast physically looks bad look sick and you know he doesn't look well I mean although sloat all those things should make him an someone that is unattractive law school she's figured out that kind of Presentation Listen I had professors in college at the end of their performances I would their lectured stand up and applaud because it was that good Tiv- to but certainly not out to win anyone else over yeah and that's a different job it is like watching ageing Rockstar and people have projected what the rock star used the ninety S. That's what I mean how many albums do you have to have downloaded albums I think I have never had ninety four ninety eight no-doubt right as opposed to a lot of the people he has he's so unpolished I mean listen to how he reads off a teleprompter it's it's horrible he looks terrible he's he's to rev up that crowd they you know they knew he needs the blood sort of what do you make of his prowling around the stage when he's when he does he likes S. he's it's fascinating it's a it's a it's the most moment that he has at these rallies but he always has this moment where he lets them Ah character which I've been doing a matching these people up with who they seem in the world of theater okay I think maybe trump is yoga or something yes it's all about him it's not about projecting anything out he doesn't really care what you're getting from him it's what you give him back that really and a fan base is a different what a great animal then a suppo- like a political supporter he is like a baseball team or a Rockstar at least has a theory of the case how to perform as Beto that toe I think I was gonna add though about trump if you're looking for a pretend you know he he stirs up racist sentiment all those things and ultimately there's a blackness at the end I mean when he's taken away the I started to say it undermined she's the I have a plan I don't bullshit I'm surprised this I'm going to use focus group but it has no it unlike some of the other people who do this it has no direction so I'm going to guess the next person that you feel like has been that has a thinking and then he just sort of I you know what what does he what message do you think he's trying to send I don't think he's trying to send a message I think it's all it's all received in one right about that Sh- app site and I and I will tell you look I don't WanNa be accused of being a theater critic right okay I've used it I don't WanNa be accused of that the I would say the use of the platform what would you do so you you have like wow so you've got booted judge just pick him right he's got you know right that's why now expletives are coming in a lot he gets the you know I think that he we're not covering it as much so he needs to do more things to get more attention yeah and and Korea and he ageing Rockstar and agent NONOC later hits with without real talent but that's that is his talent he's projecting the way I always think of like remember Dan he silent because actually there's no there there which I think is an interesting thing to explore but anyway beto had his moment too early he's not he's not hidden it's it's all out there it's not like that subtext he actually tells you what he's going to do at each stage and he's sort of Downey junior yes that was one he actually had one stick but he he made an entire life I he made with the cigarette foul and people matters so when he's I think those kind of moments are just him soaking it all in it might also just be a kind of anxiety moment or you know it's a way of like letting off some of the Energy Japanese Chin Out I used to call it you know he's in full Mussalini mode now and he gets in the ten out and he sort of he's sort of prowls he prowls the stage let's the crowd ruminate with trump also though he's he's so addicted to it and you when you watch him he's so addicted I that's why I really WanNa see him live he said that he has to ratchet it up the class actually right right like that's what's happening with trump fans that's absolutely see the trump you're seeing they see the donald trump from fifteen years ago and and keep just he threw it all out there with the getting on the table the cars I guess I guess you know he's other moment is don't forget the ours oh your your face is very elastic on camera got a talked about that but but the one I I think actually for me when he does move he's a hand move just he's got more gestures than most yeah I I'm a gesture he guy I'm told I'm just you're on camera sometimes but not like you're you're oh from a fellow who basically who basically projects all the way through a fellow he tells you what he's going to do the whole a- and if they're merged in performance that makes sense to people it makes it it makes so much more compelling wile of sugar it's why her crowds is that going to be it's the site of the people that wouldn't necessarily come out is that going to be a warn stronghold Bernie strong IVETA theory that we're headed for a series of one the the the antithesis of Warren for me was Biden because Biden while Warren seemed to me like almost mark Antony in terms of delivering that mazing oration in in in Julius Caesar there's something kind of episodes of why is this

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"Previously on the Tony Kornheiser show and he said Austin is just paddle to the metal whereas in the district. There's this sort of mutual cooperation because there's all he's traffic circles and people are so understanding of each other and to each the other. That was like forty years ago. Not The case anymore travel circle. You don't really travel that circle. Time came from Pittsburgh and North Carolina. Long Straight Road road came here. No circles Oh my God the first eighteen times I would spin around six. Like how do you get out of your the Tony Kornheiser show is on now. All righty then. David Aldridge is here. Torie Clarke is here. Michael Kornheiser is here. Nigel will produce the show. Run the board. Do the the news On a local emotional level later in the show we will talk about the passing of Morgan. Wootten the Great Great High School Basketball Coach at two Matha which his David Aldridge's Alma Mater. Any new Morgan well and so we will talk about that. We'll get to that one. We have a lot more room and I want to explain something that happened yesterday. A lot of you. Who got the podcast went right from the last segment of the show? The old guy segment into the singing A beautiful songs By Sean O'Brien I think that was her name I'm we. We did not have the mail bag and Nigel Can explain what happened yesterday. Well I'm an idiot. That's what happened but What we do is we taped segments? I saved them after time. We were done taping him and I neglected to save save that particular segment and I email the segments to myself to produce outside of the studio and zone I e mailed myself that segment had no audio on it. Okay so that happened. So it's not we're GONNA do an extra long one but some emails were very very good and yes we those emails. We will also say on apologetic Tartu all the audience and everyone everyone and so everybody understands say that one of those lizards fell out Miami last night it was too cold fell and broke the segment. That would happen The We are appreciative to Danny Fleischmann. Who is the owner Bethesda bagels for sending US Bagel sandwiches? Again today. Right that's right but but this is now too much when you send us Bagel sandwiches. Don't don't send the other things. Danny Yeah we don't necessarily know with only five people and we can't eat all of this food and we know that once it goes outside it's gobbled up by people unworthy of it. Very simple early annoys us and unworthy of it. The people that goblet dave that is what bothers you that it's too much for I said so others might eat your I have this. Pti We have a candy area. PTI and the people who work on around the Horn and the people who work on High noon and the people who work on the Lebatardshow who are in Washington. DC where these shows shows are produced. They come over and eat the candy all the time and I don't want them to know there's no it's not theirs and they come over into our space and eat our candy and I think they should be allowed to have have some but it should be rationed should be rational presented car and after that in a small stipend should be small donation. They don't have to do anything like that but but when they take all the candy when suddenly there are no gummy bears left and these people from the other areas who do not work in our space are smiling. Leeann grinning. Because they've eaten them all no I am. I am roundly criticized for my position. Okay I understand you know about the candy desk on the Senate floor. I think it's still exists. I was reading somebody WHO's the keeper Andy McCain had I can't remember the history of when McCain senator. He inherited the Candy Desk. And it's your your desk on the Senate floor and is your obligation to have that. This filled with candy. So whenever any other senators walkover flip up lid. There's candy in there and what that means is all the candy manufacturers factures. Send to your office truckloads of every kind of candy. Imagine that's great. We buy our own. Kim Yeah well we didn't and I don't know if they can get away with anymore but we all gain ten pounds because the officer just be filled with every kind of candy and then McCain got annoyed after awhile. He says you're sitting at desks. You're trying to do some work and all these knuckleheads coming up banging the lid open nine till did you find something on it. Well well just as the PAT toomey The senator from Pennsylvania scurrying the keeper of the Candy. And they get very angry if they open it and they don't have the gummy bears that they wanted. I I understand that this picture of the candy. Yeah there's a lot of out of ordering pizza in the newsroom. Eating at all. I've I've seen that happen. I've seen that Let's start your two big news stories that that we need to start with I is is not Kansas. Kansas state fight. I is the hall of fame. Vote earlier in the month or last month it was announced that Ted Simmons would get into the hall of fame the Catcher for longtime catcher. Very good player. I'm not sure all the fame worthy but very good player and Marvin Miller who should have been in forty years ago and died and died without ever knowing knowing that he was going to get any should have been in. He's one of the ten most important people in history of baseball. I don't understand how he didn't get in. So Simmons was in Johnny Bench's Error Eight. So I was always is a clover shadow and by Carlton Fisk and Collina's overshadowed by both of those So Derrick jeeter gets in and Larry Walker gets in Derek. JETER is the meteor story. So we'll get to that. You know after Larry Walker Larry Walker is a very very fine player. He has the distinction of being the first everyday player born in Canada to be in the hall of fame he played for three or four teams led the League in batting one year. I think you said he had twenty one hundred heads I to me to me. You can debate whether or not Larry Walker Hall of fame worthy. I think he got in because it was his last year being eligible and I think people said you know he was pretty good. Yeah you know. So let's let's put him in I I look at Don Mattingly. WHO's not in and I don't think necessarily should be in? Don Mattingly had five years that almost nobody ever had. Yeah I mean really did. And he's not audience and Larry Walker's numbers. Are they much better than don mattingly's numbers. Can you look that up. Because I don't think they're much better at twenty one hundred. Wow I thought he has a twenty one thirty something three nine. It's three hundred was close to three again. This is this is how do you define what the hall of fame is. This is very individual thing is at the hall of the greater is the hall of the very very very good you know. And that's where the cutoff lies for. A lot of people for me. Anyway Don Sutton is one of those people who's in very pitcher Don Sutton didn't get the three hundred I don't know. Did you not think you got the three hundred. I think you might have squeak then. Maybe but he stayed in baseball for a long time in announcing. It's very very nice guy. So you get him curt schilling is up to seventy percent. Curt Schilling is probably going to get into the hall of fame. I'm not sure that curt schilling as a regular season pitcher is hall of fame. I'm worthy but boy. Oh boy what a postseason he had for two different teams. I think he has been capped out to this point because politics. I don't think that's fair. I mean I I I. I don't personally think your friend David. Israel tweeted about this yesterday. Oh did people were talking about you. Know why isn't he any should be Dan and he has his position was character is specifically state. And you can do that and take that position. I think he will get in clemens. Sixty one percent of the vote bond sixty percent of the vote. I'm not sure they will ever get in. And we're not talking about people whose careers are borderline that these are yeah dominating dominating hall of Fame Claire. She's being. Oh there's no there should be no question about that and and there should be something on the plaque. Let us get to the millionaire thing which is ask questions dairying cheater. Yes go ahead. I'm sorry you're not done with Derek jeter yet we didn't even get to getting to Derrick. Jeeter count when you're done with their at the end of thirteen. I have a question okay. Derek jeter Failed failed by one. Vote to be unanimous in the history of the hall of fame there's only been one player unanimously elected Mariano Rivera. Derek jeter's teammate on the New York Yankees for I believe five World Championships This is just something that baseball writers have done. For long periods of time someone takes the bullet and says I won't vote for this guy because nobody nobody should be an analyst. Because if Babe Ruth wasn't unanimous nobody should be unanimous. This is how the thinking goes okay. So people are outraged that Derek jeter was not unanimous. I will just say this if I wanted to make the case against Derek jeter being unanimous not being in the hall of fame. Of course he's in the hall of. There's no first ballot hall of fame. No question no please hear these words. I bowed hall of fame. No question I'm just saying if you want to be that writer. Who Says No here are the two things you could do? One you could say Mariana Rivera it is an invented position of closer. Its invented But Mariano Rivera is is the best there ever was. Nobody would ever argue that to this point where Derek jeter is not the best shortstop whoever was new he not I think. Cal ripken whose WHO'S A. Contemporary is a better shortstop right But again let me say these words again first ballot hall of fame question. But you might say well I get it with Rivera even though it's an invented position he's the best whoever did it and Derek jeter as great as he is is not the best shortstop of all time. The second thing is you could say if you were angry you could say. He's destroying the Miami Marlins. He's destroying them is terrible. Gm I think. And I wouldn't do that ownership I on you get. Yeah I wouldn't do that so zoll thoughts on Derek jeter born completely. I mean he's all famer but if you didn't WanNa make them unanimous I have no problem with it. Whatever problem with Tony is this? This holy puffed up. We're the guardians of the guardians of nonsense. That baseball writers do. It's one of the things that I don't like about baseball. Bolt makes me angry about baseball. Is this stupid unwritten rules and you unless you're at the park every day you don't understand nonsense you know I'm not saying Jeeter's Guy I'm not going to die on that hill right. I'm saying there's plenty of guys that could have been unanimous over the years twenty twenty. Yeah Yeah I guess that's my issue as you have essentially two times can change. Maybe it's easier to have the great grade. Inflation too heavy in a unanimous selection. Does it really matter if your first bout and you get in your still in but this comes back to what is the hall of fame is the Hall of very good as as you always come back to and then how do you try and create separate classes within that. What does it mean to be? First-ballot what does it mean to be unanimous. So why do we have to keep with that tradition. This this is the same issue that we have in terms of. You know protecting pitchers and protecting infielders if people take a bad slide. I'm just sort of tired of that Anglo Baseball now. I and I understand that okay now. Did you cry. Which position is most represented in the baseball hall of fame is it hitters or pitchers pitchers Probably hitters guessing. Many more from the actual position would likely be their first base or the outfield. Got It. Okay and don't field position so yeah. How long is it before we find out? Who is the one guy who didn't vote? Oh we're going to find out. Sure sure sure I think nobody should almost if not all of the baseball. Writers make their ballots public. It's one of the things I do like about. That is that they say. Hey here's vote right. Kill macy like some people do it too so to say look look at me yes. Of course yeah and it will be a guardian of the game issue. I again hall of Fame Are Hall of Famer halls of fame In the the Basketball Ascot Ball Hall of fame in includes high school. There's a couple of high school coach. Morgan wootten being one of them College and pros and international national and international as well to me. Maybe David will disagree. Tracy McGrady is to me like kidding me. Are you kidding me in the hall of fame I would not have voted voted for trace hitting me. He never got to the second round of the playoffs until he was with San Antonio and couldn't play Chris Weber's not in the hall and he is just important Chris Webber it was incredibly important so McGrady come on but every every hall of fame has some really really. Does the Baseball Hall of fame. Have anybody who didn't didn't play Major League Baseball. Should they have some contributors like Marvin Miller for example. Marvin Miller never play. So that's yes there's numbers which can you give me mattingly compared to Walker. Well I don Sutton three hundred and twenty four. I'm sorry I just never found him to be but he wanted me to him was just it was like It was it was like Hank Aaron. It's not the Jim Kaat is one who's hung around. I think he'd like two hundred. Seventy six wins. Yeah so I apologize for that So all right Larry Walker. I had a choice. Two thousand one hundred sixty hits had three batting titles one home run tell forty nine home runs in the year. Thirteen hundred eleven and three hundred eighty three home runs. Don Don Mattingly one batting title. Twenty one hundred fifty three hits two hundred twenty two home runs one thousand. I can't revisit forty nine and ninety nine I'll be is okay. So that Larry Walker Compares Compares favourably Yes to Don Matt Okay but he is in a five year period where he was just now walkers really great play but not as I told you before the show Pam Ward totally in love totally in love with Walker always loved Larry Walker played mainly for Colorado and Montana ended with Saint. Louis had an ad very good world series at like thanks couple of home run out again of. I'm not gonNA argue with you. Thanks famer. I'm not gonNA argue with you as a Hall Hall of Famer but but allow me to say that for me. There's there's this pool of people. I'm not sure hall of Famers but I'm find that he's in there the second big story the day is this brawl at the end of the Kansas. Kansas state game It's an Anon- game. It's twenty point games of its last play the game. Somebody steals somebody hit some. You know it's like and this is a real rivalry. Kansas state and out of nowhere. Nowhere for no ego. What and I know in the stands and in one guy holds up? A chair does not swing in a chair and a few people are throwing punches. And I you know. There's it's going to be suspensions if the NCAA doesn't make the suspensions. I certainly expect the institutions. I think to make the things bill self said they would handle it. I certainly expect them to make these suspensions your thoughts on. I think if somebody wasn't holding them back that stool would've been used. I need you stop. Here's you know we don't we know we picked it up. He picked it up. Okay completely irrelevant. But I see this a lot and I think okay. This is a boy girl thing but guys start to fight and when they start guy goes down Yet the guys down that okay. That's over you one stomping on them. Don't stop right. There were a lot of peace through threw punches and then ran a little bit away basketball basketball. No really fighting a little while for trainer assistant coaches and all would get in there and try to break that up surprising because as soon as it looks like it's broken up boils back. Yeah there was another fight in college basketball a few days ago. This is not good. This has happened a couple of times. Now you can't have it. So what are the consequences. What happens players get suspended for some get suspended for the rest of the season? I don't know if you are Kansas. And you have every year a national championship possibility and you suspend a guy for the rest of the season and saw sir. I mean everybody's screaming. I see everybody screaming on television. He shouldn't play for the rest of the season. And that's fine except if you are coaching. It wasn't that bane he got. We'll be boys. John's to saint boys will sit down for a couple of games. I mean I know that we're going to have to on PTI. We're going to have to talk about this at great length and I am but I'm my sensitives. It's terrible. It shouldn't have happened. And all of that. But that the punishments boy the the the punishments from the outside Lider different than the punishments from the inside and the NCAA will not make a ruling on this. I don't think and I don't think they have any power to make a ruling on this. I think this will come from the from the school's rules and you'll see what school presidents Think they can win the title. How severe the punishment is not in the NBA? 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The conference office will step in if they I would think if the schools don't step step up themselves I mean it was a terrible terrible scene You know scary Spilling over into the fans you know somewhat reminiscent of Malice at the palace may have not quite as egregious. Is that but that was the first thing that came to my mind When it spills over into by the end of the fans and the onlookers were innocent bystanders? In this And Silvio Susan. I mean the image of Silvio desouza holding that stool over his head like he's GonNa bring it down as a weapon on somebody You know talk about bad optics for a program and a guy. I who have had enough bad optics Kansas so you know it was a really really bad scene and I think there needs to be you know swift and very serious punishments coming out of so when you say very serious punishments. Kansas is the team that every year could win the national title. If they're in charge of their own punishments. How serious are they going to be? Well that's why I'm wondering if the conference office which might also be interested in protecting Kansas as national. I Love Yeah Yup you know is going to to to weigh in as well. So that's the that's the thing is Kansas. Let's put it this way. They they haven't seemed overly interested in policing themselves with the The NC Double A.'s. US that have arisen. They quickly claimed victimhood with the The Federal Investigation and the corruption scandal Bill self has been you know completely untouched although he was implicated significantly in that Curtis Washington assistant coach. Same thing so I you know I. We'll see what what they come up with. I mean the fact of the matter is Silvio. desouza is basically an expendable dependable part for them. Because he doesn't play that much he's in there. I think five fewest in terms of minutes played this year so if they wanna make it look like. They're doing something they can. They get. Sit him down Their next game and believes in the big twelve. Sec Challenge which means it's a non league game bill doesn't like the whole Olympic Olympic twelve sec challenge. He could make a big show of it and sit down five guys. They're at loose game. The wool compact the conference race whatsoever. So I don't know I I. I don't go in with high expectations for Kansas handling this You know necessarily in the strongest manner. But we'll see you again at the big twelve then ADDS anything to it. A my mistaken was desouza. One of those players who did not was not eligible As soon as they thought he might be a couple of years ago. Where my my wrong on that? Oh yeah now. I know you're correct. that it took him a while to get eligible and then he was and then his name he was he was one of the guys that Tj Gas Nolan all of the Adidas Pacman paid the money yeah for him and he was ruled ineligible permanently by the NCAA and then. Kansas won an appeal to reinstate his eligibility surprise to a lot of people that he was playing college basketball this year. Let me stay in conference with Baylor. Learn Baylor. Is the number one team in the country this year Just as an aside. I'd like you to explain how they voted. Have Gonzaga how that work because Gonzaga had been number one and I don't think they lost but be that as it may baylor over the last X.. Amount of years has been a cesspool in both basketball and football. Aw please correct me. If I'm wrong there were all sorts of rapes by football players and there was a murder on the basketball team and correct and they're they were really good this year in football matt rule just left to go to the Carolina Panthers and in Basketball Ascot Ball. They're the number one team in the country. The women's team which had no scandal whatsoever I is the reigning champion. But how does Baylor. How did how did Baylor come back from this stuff? Well I mean that's a great question now. I mean the the the the murder on the basketball team of once teammate. Killing the other goes back to think two thousand in six so it was a while ago But you know in the program was was laid quite low. After that as a matter of fact they did not even play a non conference schedule one year as as a punishment for that because there was not only was there murder. which is you know obviously horrific but but there was just just unbelievably unethical behavior by Dave Bliss and the aftermath restaurants trying to frame the the big murdered kit to cover up violations? So I mean it was a bad bad bad situation but Scott drew. They brought in and he's been there a long time and he's proven proven to be a very good coach. Homer drew son You know and this is this guy. Looks like it's going to be his best team in the in a season where nobody he looks that good. I mean Baylor's playing as well as anybody so yeah I mean for the whole Athletic Department to be in the shape. It's in it's pretty remarkable. Mak Rosie Athletic Director came from Missouri. The and has done very good work. There Matt rule proved to be a home run hire you know. We'll see what happens now after he leaves You know they had built up the cities and done the whole. ooh You know Let it correct department arms race and really kind of improve their stock they sit and you know great recruiting territory for football and basketball and other sports sports So right now yet I times for For Baylor how'd they get one over Gonzaga. What happened that just a vote? Yeah that was that was strange where Gonzaga like blows away two teams by like thirty some points and gets dropped which Gonzaga's going to sit there and say you know what do we need to do You Know Baylor Uh of playing in a conference. But that that's surprise me I certainly would not have removed Gonzaga from number one. If I were voter. We'll baylor will lose because no no number. One survived survived even two weeks right this year. Right Yeah No. It's it's just been absolute Russian roulette so yeah they'll lose clearly not a great team out there you've got a top four. You got some teams that you you think a real good you know I I don't I just I mean it. It's one of those seasons but I think really it's going to be who is playing. Well just get in. The field doesn't matter in your seat is and then who's playing well at that time and then we'll see winds up in Atlanta at the final four but I mean yeah right now I mean I'd say I'd take Baylor Zaka probably Michigan State even though they've had some some tough moments but they've got a really good team and a really good coach. And then if you WANNA fourth boy Maybe maybe Villanova you know. They're always good. Watch them last night. They won handily last night So another question. I saw that. Lamelo ball's name has come up as perhaps the number one draft pick. I thought maybe wise men from Memphis would be the number one draft again. Leads me to this. How how how secure is Penny Hardaway at Memphis Do you. What do you anticipate that program skating cleanly around the track? No I don't You know they this season yes beyond that no I I just think when they played James Wiseman after being basically basically told not to by the NCAA because there was there were NCWA violations. Than that. I mean that was just the the big double birds to Indianapolis Indianapolis and I think that that that act will lead to You know it already is. There's an ongoing investigation and it could lead to major allegations and I. I think those are going to go directly at Penny. Because he was part and parcel of the decision to go ahead and play them so I think I think after this year his jobs curing. It is very tenuous now this year. Sure he's fine in his team's not bad even without James Wiseman they're pretty good but I think eventually that will come back to bike memphis in a big way. I let me go to football. And and I know it's it feels like the football season it's been over forever and ever but I'd I'd like to use your expertise on this Lsu. I mean you've you've covered college sports for a long time. How great is what? LSU Did this year. It's this is good as anything I've ever seen. It really is. I mean you sit there you don't want to be prisoner the moment And maybe that's why it's better. We're talking about this over a week later and I still. I can't think of any like the the competition level they played to blow through the SEC. West to play Texas non convert to Play Georgia in the SEC. Championship game to play Florida and that some guesses. CD's to you know. Then just obliterating Oklahoma the home in handling and undefeated raining national champion Clemson team. I mean that's as good a run and the other. It's just so remarkable because it was it's just such a transformation from what that program was. They were always good but they were boring and unimaginative and somewhat impotent. And underachieving offensively for them to become this volcano of offense of creativity and and productivity and fun was just I just shocking and Joe Borough role I mean literally had it is probably the best I've ever seen a player have. Yeah I was thinking the not too I mean I thought Cam Newton's year was just spectacular. This kid it had sixty and six he was plus fifty. Four is just an unprecedented number. I guess I'm wondering how much it's Lsu will be hurt by having the passing coordinator leave and go right to the NFL. Yeah you know I mean. I think that that'll definitely hurt him. But I mean you lose burrow Andy lose him A and you lose your defensive coordinator that you pay to five million and I something had eight or nine early entries in the draft so I think they're going to be hurt significantly now you know. Do they still have talent there. Will they always yes. I mean it's an absolute gold mine but still I. You know that's a lot to replace Especially especially like year-over-year right away. I I expect to take a pretty big step back whereas Clemson you would say they'll be in the you know they'll be in the playoff again. Dan Clemson number one head and shoulders going into next year. Not especially when Travis. Et and the running back decided to stay in school for his senior season. So you're Trevor Lawrence Awards back. You've got Justin Ross. Receiver A lot of other players their defense was fairly young that they bring in the number one recruiting class in the country. Yeah they're loaded. How how did that happen? How did that happen? Clemson you know. And it's a great question. I one thing daboh is a a hell of a recruiter And a stave built a staff that stayed together forever. They sit in great recruiting territory in South Carolina. You're right you're you're very close. Oh slander your closest charlotte. You're close to Florida So you can recruit that area. But they've been able to go national I just think that they conveyed when they built every facility you know. That's that's the thing they went off. Basically Dab oh I think wants to them and said we need the Alabama model which means we need a staff of forty people beyond our staff of assistant coaches you know we need all the analysts we need old routing stuff we need every facility and so I said okay. Yeah Yeah we'll do it and quite frankly clemson is no good at any other sports. They are a football school period. So that's that's the trade off there but I think the gladly take it no but Devo heck of a co checker crooner And the program support around him is incredible. How swimmers swimmers are great? I'm going to be up at Stanford to see Couple of meats this weekend Georgia season rolling along with about two months until NCWA championships tremendous scraped. Thank you pat as always. Thanks for waking up all right no problem. Thank you pat. Forty of sports illustrated and we will take a break. We will have news when we return. I'm Tony Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the policy genius Ad. It's January of two thousand twenty or two thousand twenty shows up in a lot of science fiction and a Lotta people predicted by. Now we'd be teleporting. The worker living on Mars and a lot of those predictions were wrong. But not the one on Mars now because we are on Mars the truth is we'll always get the future wrong. 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He doesn't have much of an offense offense to deal with their. They have the problem of ever receiver. Yes they have one. We really members and they've got a running back Leonard Fournette quite as good as you thought he the healthy. Yeah got two quarterbacks which is one too many right. They've got nick. Foles and Gardner Minhsiu and for all we know. Philip rivers could end up eh or Tampa. Guess right for all we know so you know what else. Are you surprised. He came back this quickly. I don't know what his monetary situation is Whether the Redskins they still pay him unless you get additional money or does this come on set. It's probably an offset. Because he had a year left. I'm sure Thing with football. This is shocking to everybody Antonio Brown and headlines again he and his trained trainer allegedly battered the driver of a moving truck outside his residence in Hollywood would Florida now. Brown is a suspect in this alleged incident but is not as refused to talk to the police. Yeah the House. What didn't show up so I just WanNa leave for the day? We'll try and deal with this tomorrow. Antonio Brown and I well. I'll just eliteautori on this because you've been watching the Aaron Hernandez this thing and you. You have thoughts about football players and possibilities of I think so many of them. Maybe High School Definitely College in the definitely when they get in the pros they are take performance enhancing drugs all sorts of supplements all sorts of bodybuilders. I think it's got to in addition to get in your head. Pounded all the time C.. T. It's got to contribute in this road rage kind of thing and I'm watching in Aaron Hernandez switching back and forth doing my show. Prep in reading about this other stuff and I think in Tony Brown. This does not end. Well it's not going to. And then all the support system around him that he had his agents system. They're disappearing so he's GonNa be surrounded by horrible. People have the worst intention. I'll bring up something very very local And that is a DELAUNAY. West and Allante West was a very very fine basketball player. Saint Joe's MHM great backcourt. Saint Joe's who's the other the lead guard Jamir Nelson Jamir Nelson and DELAUNAY West and Allante West played for while in the pros MHM Dante West appears to be now beyond the borders of saying. No He's bipolar. Yeah I mean. That's that he gets in fights. People was arrested and He and I have firsthand evidence from a friend of mine who offered to help him at various times and Allante. Aren't they west. Get get out of my life. The lante West Heat other people have tried would allante west and it hasn't worked and he's going down a a lonely only and what appears to be a violent road He was arrested some years back with guns in a guitar case speeding on a motorcycle on the beltway. And it's not like and it's the same with Antonio Brown. Don't tell me you didn't see any of this commoner. Because here's a trail for Hansel and Gretel breadcrumbs. You've seen this Anyway go ahead Staying with football. There's a new proposal something that's GonNa try differently at the The Pro Bowl won't kick offs but they're going to try this new onside. Thanks for So I guess you can either give back to the opposition and it starts. Its drive at the twenty five yard line or you can run one play in. No no no no no no no no you have the ball. You have just scored You're down in the game. Forget the pro bowl thing. This is what the COMP competition committee devoted on and the owners for whatever their reasons were rejected last year This is how it works you down in the game. It's late in the game. You want the bowl back. The only way to get the ball back now is to try an onside kick on side kicks because of rule changes to protect the safety of the players. So you can't run up in the way you used to run up or anything like that. Onside kicks her down to ten percent recovery rate right now the look in your phone. I I know this I've got. I've Sand Lake syncing on a making sensitive. So you have this option. You can onside kick at the moment. That's really all you can do to get the ball back. Doc Look I mean you can kick deep and try to hold them and if you want the ball back right then because of a certain sense of urgency you onside kick. This is a proposal that instead of onside kicking. Can you get one down. You get fourth and fifteen from the twenty five where you would normally kick from twenty from the twenty four th in fifteen. If you don't make the other team gets the ball wherever you didn't make it. If he thrown incomplete passes to get it on your twenty if you gain twelve yards they get it on the thirty thirty two but you have this opportunity to maintain possession of the ball by gaining fifteen yards on one play and and by the way if you get a pass interference you keep the ball You know so I really liked this will bond really hates it. I don't think it's that confusing but Michael Goal and Tori were confused about the road. I explain it correctly perfectly. I still think it's goofy okay. And that's fair. That's what we'll bomb thinks it's goofy. Great I really really like it. It's not that I think it's goofy. I worry about the potential for pass interference. Yes of course trying to draw that. But that's how you I don't like when you try and design plays blaze to draw penalty flags exactly. Okay you're gonNA throw a fade. The receivers GONNA stop short. He's going to let the cornerback run into them. And they're gonNA throw a flagged. It's artificial pass interfere if I had. There's about five or six or seven quarterbacks in the league in a Fi had them I would love this. I Have Patrick Mahomes I. I think it's stupid to five five Lamar Jackson. I love this little ray rice up the middle where you have to change everything and okay you know. So what else College Basketball Mr Tony. Maryland down by fifteen percents game ten and a second Cambodian beat northwestern seventy seven to eleven down fourteen to half beaten by eleven roll them rolled in the second second half so I watched that in the hopes that northwestern would lose they call from robot so on so I guess it's not like they're not the best program in America the Best Program in America. They just had an unfortunate time against a team. That was a better basketball team. But not nearly the academic institution. Somebody mentioned that on a frequent which is to say this that they did like in in the fourth quarter that game they ran one of of those self produced promos for northwestern gorgeous. Oh that's beautiful so beautiful beautiful. Tell tell a story of your feelings about northwestern I I was ready to hate northwestern having the the personalized tore from what do they call. It's not the Lupu Michigan Avenue where we were staying having Wilbon drive us up the river or the lake the magnificent mile yet point but then pointing out apartments where he lived hospitals at meant something to his family. Then you finally get to Evanston which is is absolutely charming gorgeous architecture and then you see this new athletic center that they've built and it's nicer than anything I've ever done. He's pointing out the special glass that they don't fly into it where he was camping. Out as an UNDERGRAD. Because it was the summer of whatever was one hundred degrees idea to sleep outside ride. Yeah and you said you would go there. I if you knew about Oh if I knew about it I would. I would have looked at I would and I I get it. I'm excited. I want the boys to. It's great so it's January. No it's cold but it's great. So we get design Williams. Simplicity sure sure Showtime Zion Williamson will make his his. NBA debut tonight. There is a certain breathless anticipation on the part of the network. Where I work and I understand this because they got the game and they you want this game and there's a great hype with this and there should be an I understand all of that but but I would also say did did that? That half the season has gone on without Cy Williams and I I think he's been forgotten now. I'm not saying you don't put this game on. Of course you put this game on. But he's he hasn't played. He's in the begins Simmons first year. Joel Embiid I. Second Year Marquel Foltz first year Blake Griffin. Had plant all tone right different. So now he's GonNa play and to me. The largest question is if and when he gets hurt again this year and then what and then what. That's fair yeah what are your thoughts on Zion Williamson. We've not seen anyone. He with his size speed and power before that doesn't mean his body can handle. I thought you were. That's what everybody is concerned about. So we'll we'll have to see how this goes not just this year but you know really over the course of his first two or three years where I think I think physically he will probably be okay but you worry about the wear and tear and the the Combi always have his is amare stoudamire young. You know who was great for three or four years and then his body now he. He wasn't quite as big as I on Zionist Karl Malone size and think against John David Thompson. He's bigger than Karl Malone. Carl Malone ways to eighty yeah Carlos but to sixty I think he's yeah we haven't seen it yeah. You don't know how long it's going now. He's not GonNa go play forty minutes tonight. None on an the minister shirks. How many how many would you expect them to play fifteen to twenty in in spurts of four minutes Moreland who probably get about twenty four our twenty eight something like that. I would think but not thirty. Certainly not the thirty. I would say you know this. This season is done for him. Yeah together here. It's that's that's all list. You said he was. He's been forgotten I when I was watching last night. And by the way I got Bingo I got all five of my rotation okay. We're talking about the go. He comes up in your show. Whatever I went oh my God I forgot about him and it's kind of like when you hear Michael Bennett? I forgot he's running for president but if he plays half as well let's see played in his college. He's GonNa Remember. You WanNa Watch star. We'll get a great rating on this. Your networks hyped is star we. There's there's no question about this lovely when you see the interviews. He handled everything about him. I'm just saying that we're yeah what everybody wanted. Was this to the happening October. Yes and not the end of January right so now and you're not going to see him in the way that you saw him at Duke. Because you know you're afraid yeah afraid you lose them. Yeah Yeah Yeah so okay. Another player who Will probably be making come back from. Injury is a Boston. Red sox second basemen the Royal Machado took him out. Yeah he was coming in. Yeah he's coming back from a knee surgery I think and we're playing at second and Machado slate into him mm-hmm of course. I'm a Red Sox fan so I think he's. He's played in nine games. Since then I was making a concerted effort to come back and suffered what they're calling a major setback. I I I don't think there's anyone even the Diet the diode Red Sox fans I think he's still have play again. You know he was mentioned as a possible managerial candidate for them. Would you think that that would be good idea. Am I pee. Yeah might have the clubhouse I might yeah I mean I don't know but he certainly might. Yeah I would certainly expect him to be a coach. I would certainly expect that. As does he go absolutely this future manager. So we've done that. We are done. I'll tell you about the corona virus virus. No I don't WanNa hear about it and and the beer anymore. We have got radio when we return. Tony Kornheiser you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is all guy radio for the day. These are the drifters this is on Broadway. I love this song to great stink. It's such a great song on this version. George benching version. I like all the versions. I've ever hurt because I think the song is so powerful. It's great songs now. It's six circus song This was King Berryman. And I'm going to mispronounce last-named Cynthia Weil. Yeah In collaboration building. Were they brill. Build your Oh. Yeah collaboration with Labor installer all in the same building. I think building a rector renton that originally recorded by the cookies although the crystals version beat them to the air This one they changed the arrangement on this sort of just give a different sound shortness. Who Plays Guitar on this do not? He's currently serving a factor stint doing plays the plays the lead Guitar Solo. So there's is a little better. It's a great song. It's just unbelievable. I think the definitive version is my squad. Capellas you two thousand three. Everybody does this song because it's such a great eight songs. Everybody knows it's great so the beginning of all that jazz the Yup Russia. It's it's the greatest beginning of a movie I've ever seen. It's it's this song. George Benson's version. There's four hundred people on stage all trying to get these two spots that are open and Roy Scheider is just kneeling winging and just kneeling watching them. It's fantastic. That's probably song so I'm glad I'm very glad David is here today. I'm sad sad at the circumstance that we're going to talk about now. Morgan wootten passed away last night. Yeah at eighty eight years old. He is a member of the basketball hall of fame. One one of only two or three high school coaches right. That ever Hughes from Texas is one of Hurley's dad early. They believe that's correct. Yes that's all there rob senior. Yes yes that's all there are and Morgan. wootten is giant in basketball Was a teacher it as well as the Matha had chance had a number of chances but came close low swans I think at North Carolina State and decided. He didn't want to do Valvano. That's right after you imbalanced that's took that job David Having Gone did the Matha will know more than I but the first two names that come to mind of course for me or James Brandon agent. Dan Leader who he coached. What was it like to? He was coaching when you were in high school absolutely was that's when it's one of the reasons I went to Damasio said I had this delusion that I play basketball for Morgan. wootten in that was quickly. The quickly abused try out. No actually I remember this like it was just that came in and I saw I went on the floor and I saw these has guys who had obviously been playing for a good period of time and went. Wow look at that and it's and I said you know somebody else was is there and I said so. They went so they start practice this early because it was September. They were like what are you talking about. Like let's Varsity isn't isn't knowle's just guys the bunch of guys on the court nuts when I went. Oh God I made a big mistake. I can't possibly play here But yeah no Morgan was there. He was was It was just a towering figure because of his decency more than anything else he was just you know. At that time he only only only had like six hundred wins. He wound up like eleven hundred or something so You know he was just as nice person as you could imagine you know competitive to be sure wanted to win but never had that veneer of superiority thirty or anything. I remember interviewing him for my for the school paper and I was sixteen years old and thinking. I can't do this. There's no way it could do this. I I it's more he's going to let and he was beyon- patient and kind and answered all my stupid questions and You know and left you thinking. Wow well if I could interview Morgan wootten. Maybe I could do this for a living. You know so You know that's just things like that and just over the years just seeing him on occasion he was always so polite and kind and just. Hey just genuinely happy for you when the things that you would accomplished in your career. He was like that with everybody is program was so highly regarded that there was a long period of time where every single player down to the Fifteenth Guy on the team got a scholarship. CROUCH everybody every other dinners John. I'M GONNA forget names uh-huh so beyond James Brown and agent Dantley. You were some of the other bones. Josh Hawkeye Whitney Austin Danny Ferry Dirk Whittenberg Sydney low. I mean there was som- rose so many great players you know Carlton Valentine went to Michigan. State you know. There's too many that I could even name But they were all great players you know and for twenty thirty years sit Catlin. I'm forgetting so many guys from from the beginning But you know they're the mathis sent more people to the NBA than any high school in the country. By the way for those of you wondering about this and and is this can only happen at a private school in public school with boundaries is just not going to happen you may have one or two great public school classes when your private schools Catholic school in a great league they can go out into the area and bring people in who want to play. They're they can. It's legal you know. It's not like that recruiting to places like the schools in Vegas where they away from your home. Right do that right. They don't do that and you have to be able to do the work Into Massa I can believe believe me when I tell you that and yeah I mean again the eight early eighties when I was there. The level all of basketball played in the W C C was just breathtaking. Johnny Dawkins was at mackin. As was this appro. It's a pro player. There you know Joe Howard went on to play at Notre Dame. The best play best athlete I ever saw an ice cool was Joe Howard I mean he was at Carroll. He was phenomenal. Saint John's was always always a great score. Chief rival for many years so I mean the the the and then you would play the what they call the inner high champion and it was always Dunbar or spin garn so it was again Sherman. Douglas pro you know we. We played against pros. We had pros and we played against pros and it was just. It was the the level of of of basketball. That you saw was just incredible. Now Morgan wootten son did not succeed him. He did not know. I Jones succeeded as one of his former players. Correct and Mike Silver. Who is Larry? Bailey's Godson Larry Daily I guess Joe McConnell you don't WanNa follow it's hard. Don't hard near a a lot of people who wanted to follow it. But you know I think we all understood that that was going to be a heavy lift for Joe. Who's a very good coach in his own right So and he's done a really good job on O'CONNELL so I mean it's You know so we all. I think we all understood that. Did you know Morgan well enough to ever ask him about the decisions I. I'm sure he had a lot of offers to to coaching college as to why he decided to stay in I think the main well yes yes now I would never pretend like I was close to him the way James Brown and the players that actually pay for him or close to him but yes over the I mean I think what it came down to with. NC See state was just you know he just really love the school and thought it was. It was not the right place I think he would have left in a heartbeat for Maryland. If it ever been offered that was his Alma Mater. That was a school he he wanted to. Coach at. wasn't available left. He was doing great then in those days and when when left he had to leave. You Know I. I don't know that they ever seriously considered Morgan. You know they went pretty quickly to Bob. Wait I think certainly been offered. He would've taken it. There is a certain amount of intrigue in that particular thing and this is extraordinarily local. But I around at that time and in effect John Thompson picked Bob Wade To go coach at Maryland John Thomson's biggest rival or one. I guess left. He was his is biggest rival but John Thompson was a rival of Morgan. Now they did not like each other not know because last thing on Earth Yeah John was going to do minutes. John John John. When John was at Saint Anthony's employees felt like Morgan? Stephan wouldn't play snubbed. Him You know and John had a big big program there. I mean he was very successful there in John And Morgan Whatnot. These these two hall to hall of fame coaches. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah they were in school. You know. That's how good basketball is in this town really. It's really it's really great and Morgan wootten had had A liver transplant kidney transplant. How he went into hospice care very recently mondays ago? Something like that was everybody knew and he was just just a giant giant. Yeah I'm just a giant you can't get into the hall of fame is Cook. I remember I remember doing a piece on the for the yearbook about. What was the story that became a piece for the yearbook His daughter who I was my age Kathy. She was a cheerleader for Saint John's which was our bitter rival and remember going to that game and I remember her talking to her and talking to cathy the mother and onto him and we beat Saint John's and I remember him saying going to his daughter. And saying you know it's important life not to meet with success in everything uh-huh so as long as I've got you here. You went to a memorial service yesterday in New York for David. Stern told yeah about that. Yeah it's way too many people in my lifetime recently tone is not been a great few months Yeah that was It was it was wonderful to. Let's say people. It was wonderful to see so many people that the the whole lower bowl of radio city music hall was filled It was just everybody was there And so it was just It was a great group of speakers I am I am swimming. The family pick the speakers Obviously Adam silver spoke magic Johnson spoke Val Ackerman who was the first President Not Commissioner of the WNBA. Now the commissioner of Big East conference spoken and teared up talking about David Stern insisting that the WNBA not only start but stay in business. Even after years and years and years years of losses financially making the owners continued to subsidize it In Valerie Vallis told me over the years as the two most important people who have have influenced in champion women's sports in the last half century or village in King. David Stern Somebody Pat Riley who spoke for along very log dot but had some great stories So yeah it was just great to see. And and both of David Stearns sons spoke And it was just. It was a great gathering of people thinking about in remembering his towering influences influence is towering intellect is is temporary his combativeness. All of those things were on display. You know and he was you know. Ah The play. He could not have done it without magic bird. We all understand that and later Michael Jordan and that incredible era of players came in the eighties. We all get that but they all needed needed a platform there were other great players who played in the NBA to They didn't have the platform that David Stern created for those players to to show what they can do. And that's the proof in the pudding. You know it's sixty billion dollar business. Now here's a period of time where David Stern and Pete Rozelle. Were running sports in ece absolutely to Missin Beck Best Commissioners ever. Yeah Adam Day. They ran it with an iron fist. Yeah nobody's nobody can. He did it with a smile. David didn't always. There's a lot of people a lot of people that hated David Stern. Yeah because they were on the wrong end of what David Stern wanted to do. You but he he deservedly gets credit for the NBA. Becoming a really major league was not when he started was not a major league. It was the appetite was not therefore it was much more for college basketball and he. He made progress which shot past college in College. How's basketball help? The final four and again Agan Bird were the guys that got that going to south. Yeah yeah all right so this so that I'm not even going to deal with the smallest all this Sean my street. I also save this for David because I knew David would feel exactly the way I feel. What's that I got home last night? And there's these two cars parked across the street it or not you know. They're not from then they walk. One has Maryland plates. One Has Virginia plates. Cars are running. The lights are on MHM drivers looking at their phones. I walk up to one car and and the guy with a start looks at me. He Goes Oh and I go. What are you doing nothing? So I'd say I go in my house and I've seen this more and more in in the neighborhood uh-huh and Carroll says to me they are probably Uber drivers are lift. Drivers would be waiting for something in the area waiting for something in the area. My initial reaction to this is anger. I don't I don't like this. You're someone who hates when People Park in front of hails as to. Why would I give give people the first time I give him the grace period because they could be lost I lost? They don't know where they're going. Okay you got ten minutes ten minutes ticking and get your get get get your you know. whatever map system you use on your phone and let's get it moved by. David feels exactly the way I feel. My first call is going to be to the there if they remain there for any tremendous length of time I have seen There's one Karma neighborhood that I really dislike. It's an Uber. Car with Maryland. Plates it's It's a crummy little silver Honda And the other day it was parked outside of the car. Outside of the car is junk is like a McDonald's much most of these yeah right outside the car to stop and I put it on. Put It on the windshield car. Maybe this person and I don't know who's driving this. Maybe this person forgotten that this came out of that. Maybe I don't like that to a lot the people in the DNB carry guns. Just be careful okay. Okay but now I in the same topic. I can ask for advice so a few streets very few streets away from me live someone who has a towncar pick him up every morning Usually leaves about eight eight fifteen late farce. I'm concerned And often the driver God bless some is early so he does not park and sit in front of his customers. House he parks on Little Surrey which is right across the street from Muss in front of our friends. Jack and soup and the car sits there and sometimes it's idling which bothers me 'cause the exhausted and hitting the shrubs and things like that but I'm thinking to myself why doesn't he just sit out in front on his customers house. Why does he sit down here question and it bugs me you should alchemy? Unless he's armed guys don't Father you should I mean because he's not there for for you. Is there for this other person. I I the the sort of territorialism that I have that I have passed onto my son is like like knock right. You feel the same way every day. We have the the parking police check our street. Because it's a two hour zone street and every day I walked down I just I want to shake your hand. You're doing good work for you. Parking is a separate issue. Then a service car trying to pick up a ride and it's it's amazing one of the reasons you chose that house house in that location. Was it's accessibility. And when you think about how you can get to so many pockets like the magic number for for Nubas can get here and under five minutes right right and so that's the tricky spot where you happen to love your street because you have a couple of You've the House across the street. Has a backyard garage. So there's there's always tons of parking. I parked there for the better part of a decade and had no issue but I was of the street. I will say this on. I don't know how David feels about this. If this was a cab I be okay because I like camps yes exactly I don't like googlers don't like lifts and I think that there are insurgents I don't like but if it was a cab and they used to be a cab parked up the street right right to have access to the larger streets and I saw him every day and he listened to the show and I was fine with him because that was okay I can do and work our way and grey cab with a light taxi number down if you need to write this the end of the day org just some random guy. It's a car you don't know you just don't know anyway we'll get out of here and we'll have Jingling and hopefully email this time. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser. Show one two two three. Four here comes Mr Tony's Greg Rosenthal Lindsey Merrill from Utah. Thank you very much that will just about do it for today's show and and for a change I thought we'd actually include the mail bag segment on today's show. Thank you Joe. Thanks as well PAT. Forty of sports illustrated for being on the show today today sponsored. Get our thanks policy. Genius in Bespoke Post and I don't know what any of this means but I've been told you can listen to us on apple podcasts. spotify Google play radio DOT COM. If you get the I tunes please leave us a review. Some of these were read yesterday yesterday. And we'll be right again today because you didn't hear yesterday from Matt Bear in Charlotte North Carolina to whitefish. Grow Up to be seahorses Jacob Not in the District of Columbia. I also oh called the Washington Post this weekend because I wasn't sure if our trash and recycling we're going to be picked up on Monday's holiday they asked what part of the district I was in and I replied Saint Louis Missouri. They hung hung up on your customer services dead. Steve Scott Moffatt Richmond. Virginia you asked if anyone from the super bowl four winning chiefs were alive. Not only is Willie near seventy four three off Nawab still alive. He was at Sunday's game while winning a super bowl was great. I'm sure the highlight of his life was being my graduation speaker for the Benedictine High School class of nineteen stole title. Lifetime is he gave trophy. Good Oh that's right. I saw that Gary Uber Dallas Texas. I always suspected you stole your podcast. Formula from my grandfather who rambles incoherently. Oh heavenly with his friends at the retirement home everyday. They don't just record it and posted online yesterday. Clinched it for me. Their favorite day of the week is Monday. Which is egg sandwich? Breakfast Day you'll be hearing from my attorney Jordan Nolan in traverse city Michigan eight hundred eighty three miles from Hewlett high school. George W Hewlett High School at the end of October. I drove from Long Island to Michigan to look at a boat in Freeport art which I then bought and shipped back to traverse city. Could you please describe the location of Tropical Aquarium. The CARVILLE store and a low tower in relation to the travelers marine services. On on the water near Guy Lombardo Avenue Right Off Sunrise Highway whol Freeport is guy. Lombardo was a bandleader in the forties and fifties. As I said yesterday a one tier three. Yeah yeah well. That's Lawrence Guy. Lombardo was the Royal Canadian news all the time. Report is actually on the ocean and and that's why it's called Free Port from Teresa. Hey Sixty four springfield Missouri. Here's what we know for. Sure Andy Reid is one hundred twenty one games as an NFL head coach. Winning the Super Bowl will give him two hundred twenty two wins on. Oh Two zero two two oh two oh pretty good or could numbers Jeff from Rockaway Beach Oregon Oregon Not Rockaway Beach Long Island and New York. I must be getting older as I like to watch and comment on television ADS. Even if I don't know what they are selling the actor in the guess who got reinstated. ADS is also. The Dad was driving the car in sign spinning. Add you discussed on Mondays name. Stephen Hall my work here is done. Josh Cromwell Moselle Mississippi I guess Liz debunked the notion that you remember what you said. Maybe Nigel should start sticking previously ready meals into the mail bag to see if you remember reading them before Jack quickly in Byron Bay Australia. ooh To be upset about your slipping memory. Tony Allow me to remind you the three greatest things about having Alzheimer's you can hide your own Easter eggs. You make new friends every day. You can hide your own Easter Mr Ed. It's funny it's cruel but it's funny. Jim Tip it only Maryland. Your show has done its listeners a disservice by not sending Nigel Melbourne to cover the Australian Australian Open. Sign the Claude Fan Club from Dan Foster kids in ICU. Southbound folks on Connecticut Avenue Maryland Barriers. We do both. Chevy Chase in Westmoreland every day and my sixteen year old son was learning to drive as gotten a great practice on those circles. If you can navigate those you're good. Oh sure I'm telling you when people going North or South they're heading in at forty miles an hour and you're stopped and you know don't start it on Ward Circle Dog Hidden atvs Thirty Eight Atlantic City New Jersey. I was listening to the show tonight in the conversation about the hammer crawling. Got Me thinking my baby boy. Dean started walking last week and I didn't tell my father personally blink. So could you please let Yogi know that. His grandson has started to walk Ashton wingate in Brooklyn while listen to set up the hammer and his teeth story on yesterday's show. I couldn't help but think about the courtroom scene in Casino as you reluctantly admitted that you had in fact seen the hammered your house. I imagine that had the hammer in the studio that day to defend himself would have gone something like this hammer. You promised me a hearing when I was a guest at the big house. Didn't you promised me a fair hearing. You never guessed the my home never guessed. You never saw me in that carriage the only time you're at my whole almost half dinner with your parents. Was I after dinner. Being wheeled around was I at the dinner was cold out. You're under a lot of blankets in the building. I was in the building. You know damn well I was there. Tell me at least I was at the dinner. Allow me that much. Give me that much at least yes you were there. Thanks for calling me a liar David Patillo in manly New York which is near Syracuse bit behind you to travel but the long-lasting saga about the egg sandwiches and the Ed's aquarium talk was great to hear as it allowed me to reminisce about growing up in malvern. That said I have to take issue with you on your egg. Sandwich selection no self respecting long islander is happy with an egg sandwich on a Bagel. The Sandwich has to be on a roll hard roll software. Poppy Take your pick. The egg sandwich on the BAGEL throws off the bread egg meat ratio. It's too ready. I've moved upstate. New York have to suffer through the lack of Delis and the serving of egg sandwiches on all types of bread the the exception of the role I can live with you. Switching allegiance from the mets. To the nats but your acceptance of the Bagel over role is just wrong. Let me let me go to this issue right now. Ah I started having egg sandwiches at Delhi's in New York City on my way to work at the New York Times You never ever got them on a Bagel. No it was egg sandwich on a roll. He's completely right in. You could be poppy seed or playing sesame or whatever but it was always on a roll and in fact fact. The role is far less dense than the BAGEL So that the flavors of the egg and whatever else is on the come through better right so oh this guy's right he's middle. You don't have the cheese bomb in the middle now. It's one hundred hundred on love. The Danny Fleishman is is giving us the egg sandwiches but indeed Could get him on a roll on a Kaiser Roll. That'd be the way you just want. Everyone always wear white. But we don't have the PUSZTA to do it. We don't mean and then it off it. remade repeat uh-huh Yeah outside everything but as we come from things like now to run back to take the wind wind took yeah and Breath yeah the uh-huh exist take take take a kid. The yeah the deepest darkest you want tomorrow in a different than the problems of the past and the present data people into the night drawn. Not from all this information stimulation should take and the okay Take a kid from the it from eighteen Thank you eh in four Now is going on right now

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12/21/20 HOUR 3- Jeff Monken and Hank Azaria

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Dan in the danettes. Dan patrick show glad to have you onboard. Best and worst of the weekend. More phone calls coming up. We'll check in with the head coach of army. Jeff mahnken. they're nine and two and not going to a bowl game and he wants to know why he'll join us coming up here shortly. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com twitter handle at. Up show cooper in arkansas. Jones's this final hour leading us off high cooper. What's on your mind. Hi dan i coupe or forfeit. Eight seventy six thousand. My brother and i are trying to get are trying to address. What are some pitcher giddy autographs. And when you're my age but we're some good autographs you had some good autographs. Let's say i used to send a letter. Two teams and i would just say that i was a big fan or i like to certain player if they could sign. This always always leave a self addressed stamped on blow. Make it as easy as possible when i would go to games. I would wait outside of stadiums for players when i was growing up whether it was the nba. I went back. And i showed this to the danettes. I have some programs from. I believe it's nineteen seventy two and it's the last year the cincinnati royals played in the nba. And i got all of the lakers except for wilt chamberlain jerry west and gail goodrich unhappy harrison. Bill sharman i got all of these autographs and pete muravich anybody who came in. But i waited outside for them. And i think if you're polite and your strategic and if you're gonna mail something to somebody always give a self addressed stamped envelope and you're pretty much guaranteed even put a picture of yourself in there and just let them know. Hey i'm ten years old. And i'm cooper and i'd love to get your autograph. Yeah paulie and maybe you could tell the kids out there. What happens when you go on a team bus without permission and try to get wilt chamberlain's autograph. That was that was a bad. That was a bad decision on my part. But i knew this was the last game. The royals beat the lakers. I believe one fifteen one twelve. And i knew that i would never see wilt chamberlain again at least in my mind. I'm a young kid. And cincinnati. And i go i got all the other laker autographs and i don't have wilt chamberlain and they had lost and i came outside in the bus. Was there in what was sitting in the front seat. And i thought well i if i just walk on the boss. I mean he's right there. He's ten feet away from me. And i'm with my two friends. Bill richardson's e campbell. I said i'm going on the bus. They're going what i said. I'm going on the bus to get we'll autograph. I'll never see him again. And i stepped up first step and will stood up seven foot. One two hundred fifty pounds. Get the bleep off the bus and went you know like he stands up and you think i kind of shoddy still awesome. He's gonna stand. I mean he's got that much respect for me he's going to stand up and give me an and and i got there and all of a sudden he went. Get the f. off the bus. And then i step back down and my two friends. What did he say he said. He told me to get the f. Off the bus awesome. That's better than an autograph. So don't do that. If you're trying to get an autograph all right more phone calls coming up. We'll dive into the nfl and what happened yesterday. And no the jets if the jets and the jags both lose their final two games the jets will not get. There's no way strength of schedule. They can get the number one pick. We looked at strength schedule. If they have the same record the jags get the number one overall pick. We've talked a lot about college football and the playoffs now. We have the bowl games. Who can play south carolina's got two. They're playing in a bowl. Game army is nine into. They're not playing in a bowl game in their head coach. Jeff monk and joins us on the program coach. Thanks for joining us. So explain this to me in how you explain it to your kids. They're not playing in a bowl game. i idea. Can i give me an autograph story. Because i love your autographs. You're sure so. I i was an autograph seekers a kid i like you go to the ball games. Hang out along the third base line of the first base line by dugouts. So i won't tell you two stories but autographs one was jr. Richardson pitcher for the astros. Got an autograph before he had a stroke and after he had a stroke. I thought that was pretty. Cool is a great pitcher him and his and his in his career. But my favorite autograph was from don sutton now. It wasn't my favorite player grown-up but kind of like you had a little conversation with don on the third base. Line out in right field at the astrodome. When i was about twelve years old. And he's coming along and dot sutton's a great pitcher. And i said this is can autograph and he comes over and he said no gotta say please he said you know manners always manners always counts and i said i'm sorry i i. I just so excited gets you autograph. I got good manners. I just. I i was just so excited to autographs I'm sorry i yelled at you. And he said don't convince me. Show me open. i've never forgotten that. He said that. And i still use that. Today i've used it for my entire career when a guy talks about doing something. And i'm gonna do this so i'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do better. I say don't convince me. Show me and i. And i've shared with them where i got that that quotes i got done don sutton to thank for that quote but Get into to our bowl game and we've had a great year. I'm so proud of our guys. We we've had two very emotional weeks. Plan the army navy game in the coming right back to play the commodities trophy this past saturday here west point air force and our guys just battle than did a great job and we really looking for the opportunity. Play in the postseason. We've been set up to plan the independence bowl for for over a year and and have been looking forward to that like everybody. The reward of playing in the postseason college football and as the day went along yesterday and we realized that we were kind of getting pushed out. And i understand why. I'm not mad at the system. It's the it's a system that's created lots and lots of opportunities for for teams to play Is the same system that really kept us from from having a guarantee yesterday but a there's a lot of teams that have had a chance to play. I'm not mad at the to win. Teams teams that are playing in fact. I commend them. That they are taken the opportunity to play this game. When i'm disappointed as teams that had a chance to play it clamored for the opportunity to play. This fall are now deciding. They don't wanna play. I don't understand it and we've got a team who is deserving of plan in a bowl game They're great they're great team. Not the most talented team in the country. Not the most talented team up coach for the best team up coached and and there a group of young men who've made a pledge amendment to serve this nation and we've got seniors who were in the opportunity to plannable being who are in tears last night six months from now they're gonna they're gonna take a pledge to serve in the united states army and ultimately are willing to pay the ultimate price for us to enjoy the freedoms. We have in the way of life that we enjoy to play this game and to have the right to say yes. I wanna play or no. I don't wanna play. But when there's a team like that that is uniquely positioned to represent the one point three million men and women serve on active duty aren't united states army. They deserve the opportunity to not just play for themselves to represent those men and women and all that we've been through the it's always for all this team has been through this year just decided to opt out. Well i challenge for all that. Our soldiers have been through in all that their families have been through for families who had loved ones deployed for a year or more and been away from their families will spend this holiday season away from their families. We owe it to them to represent them and and we just. We want the opportunity to do that. We're hoping that they'll some way. Somehow there'd be a chance. But i talked to our guys about. I told him told the truth. On on how it got to this point they obviously disappointed but would they said was coach. If we got a chance then let us continue to prepare and get ready. And that's that's what we've done all year we've just prepared. We're not planned We had a twelve game schedule in july. And we'd played three of those original teams but still managed to play eleven games. We prepared not planned. It's what it's one of infantry unit. Does they prepare. They don't plan. They know where the battles come and they don't know what the weather's going to be they don't have any bad guys can be on the other side with their firepower is but they're going to be prepared and our our country can be proud to know that we get soldiers out there that are protecting our freedoms and our way of life and that we got football players who are playing on this team that made that same commitment so our guys are just a great bunch of guys. So we're gonna stay here for the next few days. We're gonna figure out if we would get a chance to play in and see what comes of it. How important is it for the coach at the academy to have been through the academy to understand what these i can't. These men and women go through to to kind of understand what their schedule is. Their life is what happens after they graduate. Get deployed like. There's there's a whole lot that goes into this coach that it's not just come on in and play some football for me. It is and it's important that we all understand that embrace that and it's one of the things i love about west point of I've had the opportunity to serve as a coach at two of our service. Academies is been a great pleasure my my career to be able to do that to serve these young men and women who are going to serve our nation and i didn't go to school here but i'm proud represent our united states army in this way just served in this way to develop the leaders of character that army needs and deserves to to to lead our soldiers. And and i. I understand this place in i embrace what we are as an institution and and i know our players realize that about that though. I didn't experience this. That i understand their life and their commitment and and when we do bring a young man in here it's not just all about football but that's what makes them so special but also you. It's one thing to say goodbye to a senior like this is different when you say goodbye to your seniors. You don't know what's going to happen to them. It's not like hey keep an eye on you in the nfl or you get a job as an accountant somewhere. You're saying goodbye to men who you might be saying goodbye to they. May they may have to pay the ultimate price. But they've they've made that choice and they've made that commitment and you know all of us should be incredibly thankful for every man woman in this nation that that takes that pledge and there are millions of americans who have taken that pledge and currently serve those that will take that pledge. Our guys do to our our guys go in all walks of life. They own all all different kinds of jobs in the army. They don't all have the same job but they've all made the same commitment. And and i'm really proud of him. I i would love to see them. Be rewarded. offer tentative a bowl and they desperately want to play and hopefully we can give even more publicity to this and we appreciate your coming on and and we're happy to be able to help facilitate this so they do get a chance. And maybe there's a school that ops out that they can't play and you guys slide in you guys have certainly been ready to play anybody anywhere and i brought this up when you'll get people who will say well you know these teams. That aren't in the power five conferences. They can't really play with the big boys. And i always bring up when army went to oklahoma a couple of years ago and they had kyle murray and you took them into overtime so i don't i don't wanna hear all you know those smaller schools can't stick with the big guys. I don't know how you did it that day but you did it. Well this team in the last three years has taken to top ten teams to overtime over time in double overtime double overtime at michigan a year ago and an assure you that it wasn't because of of our talent We got some talented guys. We get good football players but our guys just play really hard they play. They play together. They care deeply for each other. There's a sense of brotherhood in this program. That's unlike any team. I've ever been a part of and and an it's it's because of the shared experience that they'll have after they graduate that that creates a bond in this team and we didn't win either of those games so i guess the they're right. We just weren't able to to finish the job but we've won some power five games here since i've been here is the head coach. And we're gonna have a chance to play some more. And hopefully we'll be able to to come away with some victories. Just the spirit of this team and what they mean to this country. I think is great for college. Football obviously great for our our players but a for those men and women that we represent. I think that week we replay and and not and not just say you can't give up. I mean that's synthetic who you. That's who you are and hopefully i'll get a chance to get up there next season. I i appreciate the invitation. That i got for the army navy game. I got a compromised immune system and probably the last person should be traveling anywhere. But that game means that much to me that i wanted to be there to experience it. So congratulations on the season and hopefully. There's somebody listening who says you're right at army should be playing in a bowl game this year coach. So thank you and our best to you. Same to you. Thanks level afford a senior. The game next year coach mahnken. Yeah we're ready to go after that speech am. Now i'm really mad. That armies plant. Yeah i that would be great. I mean rewarding them to get eleven games in and we had coach on and we looked at their schedule and it was full of holes. They had no opponents. I think they had like we're gonna play whoever we can play whenever we can play them and i think they had three games scheduled in here they are. They got eleven games so pretty amazing best and worst of the weekend natan. Oklahoma hi nate. Hey dan I just wanted to give my best and worst. You know the best the titans finally breaking that streak of nine and seven seasons. That was great. Worst obviously being the colts continuing to win re really can't Why isn't that gap nancy south. So that's kinda rough come up with the packers and also wanted to touch on you mentioned not giving a running back to the second contract. You know tony pollard. Did fantastic yesterday. Gas that i really would not give up derrick henry on the titans no and i understand that. And he's sort of the outlier there. But i said pollard is equal to zeke in my opinion absolutely and thought that last year a catch the ball. He's quicker certainly cheaper. But derrick henry different monster certainly this time of the year chiefs they have a clear path. Homefield advantage steelers clinched. A playoff spot bills clinch the east. The titans owned the division tiebreaker over. The colts called still have a chance in the south. The browns closing in on a playoff berth and the dolphins owned the last wildcard thanks to conference record tiebreaker over the ravens the ravens are gained clear of the rest but they lose the tiebreaker. To miami right now. the raiders. Two games out the wild card race. Two games to go in the nfc packers clear path. Homefield advantage. i don't think. Aaron rodgers is ever had home field advantage throughout in his career in green bay. Saints clinched a playoff berth. Already the seahawks. Are i in the nfc. West at ten and four washington at six and eight leads the nfc. The rams lead tampa in the wild card race based off of a tiebreaker at nine. The buccaneers nine and five. So they're well positioned for a tiebreaker. And then the cardinals are one game ahead for that. Final wildcard spot. Although chris simms join us in the first hour and he said he's taken the bears at seven and seven to edge out the cardinals for that to final wildcard playoff spot. We'll take a break here. More phone calls coming up best and worst to the weekend. We're back after this in the dan. Patrick show thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon eastern or six to nine pacific on sports radio. 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Friday niners cardinals. Saturday righty more phone calls coming up. Eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dp. Damn patrick dot com. You know if you're jets fan you probably have mixed emotions. Although most of those emotions would be. How could we possibly screw up this season anymore than we have. We did it. We wanna game mci becton. He is the jets offensive lineman. He had this to say after yesterday's win over the rams. What do you say to the fans who wanted you guys for that number one. Pick to keep on losing. What do you say to fans really a fan of wants to honestly. I mean nicely in this way about me if you didn't if you wanted us to lose you not a roofing. Obviously we don't work too hard to go out there and just take a loss every week. Well they're quite a few jets fans and big-name jets fans. Hancock is one of our favorites. He of course gave us brock. Meyer the actor. Comedian does a lot of voices on the simpsons and his jets fan in. Hank joins us now. Hank how do you feel today mckay. I mean you're right then mixed emotions and the emotions that are mixed our despair and anger. How did you feel watching that game. It's been insane watching the jets this season because definitely rooting for them to lose. But it really goes beyond that. I mean mkhize is dead wrong. It's been this weird thing. I swear where. I am so passionately rooting against the jets. That my favorite team that week is whoever's playing against the jets which is a tremendous win win. Because until this week i i now always win as opposed to being jet fan up until now i almost always lose. But i mean this. This was inevitable. I guess i mean they really. They should on that raider game. They almost beat the patriots. Almost beat the broncos. They're lucky they're lucky that there. They only lost. They only one the one game i should say. But it's been a really almost psychotic season for me but owns feels like this was your patrick ewing. If you're the knicks your you have a chance. We're bad we won the lottery. We get patrick. Ewing didn't pay off in a championship but became relevant. Like the jets aren't relevant. Haven't been relevant in quite some time here and it's jesse into try to beat. You're not bad enough to get trevor lawrence here exactly. I mean this is. This is like this is just hit for a jet fan. I'm a jet. Mets jets knicks fan. By the way. I mean this is like saying. Are you surprised that. Lucy didn't let charlie brown kicked the football. You know your bum but no can you. Let's say a little quiz. Dan okay l. Let's go with that metaphor. Charlie brown and lucy and the football in this scenario with the jets win yesterday. Who charlie brown whose lucy and who's the football guess. The jets fans of football now now jets fans. Are charlie brown. No okay who's lucy. Tom brady and the patriots have been. Your lucie is the jets themselves as the jets organization and the football. I'll accept either answer either except just the football. Since we're talking football football football or the football could represent joy in life actual happiness. So so recap now it. Lucy charlie brown in the football represents that all jets fans including myself. Charlie brown poor said charlie brown who can't ever get it right and lucy evil. Lucy are the jets jets organization who just snatched joy away from us always and the football is either the football or actual join in living. Now i think i've seen a picture of you with sam darnold. Are you a sam darnold guy but you were willing like you you. Do you have a relationship that you can see other quarterbacks. That's actually jim brock. Meyer with sam donaldson brockman. There's not me brought by and i was backstage. I believe i was doing a get up. Get up get down morning cold pizza. Stop yourself. Don't touch me was don't touch me. How would brock. Meyer have called the final seconds of the jets beating the rams yesterday. Well i think they're just one long way oil and moan like a banshee wail. But i've been working on this. I emailed this to fritz. I want brock. Marta i wanna brock myers famous for saying that. The mets the yankees of not being the yankees. Okay i want to expand on this that the jets are the lebron james of being worse than the knicks and the knicks are the patrick mahomes of being the knicks being themselves. A lot of math math. I know we're problems here this. I didn't think brock. Meyer which that deep given this all a lot of thought only after he's been drinking is he is that we'll keep your head up though and this is just part. Can i tell you how every year goes from me. Can i share with you as a jets. Mets knicks fan. So this is so we're in december. We're almost at the end of the year by now. I have definitely given up on the jets. Usually that's by thanksgiving at the outside. This year was weird. Because we had this weird trevor lawrence hope. Now that's destroyed pretty much almost for sure so then around this time of year you turn to the knicks. While let's see what the knicks right. We'll see what happens by. I'd say february. That's not gonna happen with the knicks anymore. So you're off the knicks but you got spring training so you look forward to well. Let's see what the mets got going on this year. That dream usually is done by the all star break by july. Maybe august just about in time to say well. Let's see what the jets have going on this year on and on and on until i die. You're you're on this loop it ditch us. You'll never get out of that loop. I was wondering though could the simpsons an episode of the jets today. How much how much sports do the simpsons do. Well every once in a while one of the famous the most famous classic episodes homer at the bat episode which is actually featured in like the baseball hall of fame right now where we had all these baseball players a great episode every once in a while they touch on sports. But actually i should. I'm going to ask for like jets. Mets knicks sold homer root for. He's in the mid west. He's probably a chief's fan would be well. The local. the local minor league team is the springfield. Is it hopes. That's who homers fan. Which i think they actually did name. I think there's a real team in the hopes in texas. I think the isotopes thought that such a great nickname. Like there's nobody who's known as the isotopes other than the isotopes. But if you had homer somehow screw up the jets went like this would have been perfect like homer somehow would have cost the jets yesterday against the rams and they don't get trevor lawrence and you can have trevor. Lawrence would look great in a cartoon with the flowing hair there. I don't tell the geniuses at simpson's outta do their job. But but you're noodling this so maybe matt would be interested in at least you guys. I mean come on after all these years. You got to run off. And it'll be therapeutic for me and we've got knows done episode but everything else i gotta go back to mci becton for a second. That was absurd and terrible. What he said i mean. Of course we understand when no one expects the players to tank nobody expects mci becton or or anybody not not or sam darnold not to try you know the almost so no one would ever fall them or to be happy that they wanna game but you got at least tip your hat to. I guess he's too young to understand but he's gonna to have sam darnold's back like literally as his back that he i mean. Sam darnold wins. He can keep his job. Hank you put you can't say to jet fans. You're not a true fan. If you were rooting for the jets lose you can say i understand how jets fans could feel that way but you gotta understand. We're trying to win every game. Can we to look our jobs and our lives on the line here ever. No one would fault them for that. But you're not a true fan. Come on now. i don't think you'd say to either becton's face though i would through you'd be a big man that you'd be saying what you said is really stupid. All right you know. I didn't say it was stupid. And i know about that was that was the feeling i got this conversation. Make you feel that. It was this cathartic in any way for you. Oh yeah i mean. I feel very privileged. That i get to speak to the wind from my jets. Mets knicks does your. Does your wife understand this paint. God she danced. She's a philly philadelphia fan. So my house is horrible for me. She's used to heartache to. Yeah but you know my father in law. Who's a lovely guy. He literally he says goodbye to me on the phone. He goes all right. I love you nets. i'll say goodbye to you and happy holidays and met suck. That's okay thank you hank. It's great to talk to you. You too dad. Happy holidays to everybody. Anybody that tankers area of course was brock meyer and great voices on the simpsons. I don't know how many voices but Quite a few of them. Yes paulie hankins area. It just shows that no matter where you are in life. I think he makes like over a quarter million dollars an episode of the simpsons. Maybe more than that. He's still got sports pain. No matter where station you are in life when he gets paid what i think. Three hundred thousand dollars an episode of the simpsons and i might be low three hundred thousand. Wow plus ownership. Wow you could buy the jets simpson's buddies and they're still cranking simpson still cranking out. Episode jam mclovin usually in new york. You have the giants and yankees fans who like held their head. Above all the jets. Mets fans can. They still do that though. I don't know where they stand either. Well i don't know how proud you would be because usually it's the giants and the yankees and the rangers and then it's the islanders mets in the jets. Yeah i don't know if new york fans are holding their head high. Although the islanders were a playoff team last year right. But i don't you know yes. Mclovin is brooklyn the best team in the city right now. The yankees are good too but his brooklyn the bandwagon. That everyone to jump on. Oh i don't know if you jump on it but it feels like if you do jump on it. It could be a very prosperous bumpy ride or just disastrous bumpy ride in. You may like this. You're going to do career salary. Game the actors on the simpsons. There's base i four or five of the main ones dan castle. Annella let julie abner hank yearly smith those are the big four career salary off the simpsons. They're all about equal. Who wants a shot at it of how much each individual has made which was the main voice over actors on a simpson's have made off the simpsons in their career which is like Thirty years i guess closest to the whole go twenty five million each way. I already looked this up earlier. Because i was like one thing that i almost always do. When we have somebody on. I look up and what their house looks like which is really the origins of salary game obsessed with elvis stuff But they're real estate. Portfolios are as impressive as So far network seventy. You're right there by the end of this season this next contract they'll have a million dollars a piece simpson's wise. That's a lot of money. Thank you. I just got sued for ninety mil- piece and then what are the The the owners are the creators craters. Always make the money the creators back in the day. If you look back at it. They had a lot of the merchandising money. They the accident. Got a bunch of the merchandising money. And that's where a lot of it was in the first decade. we'll members sam simon. He was one of the originals and he's since passed away but he lived in hawaii. And didn't he marry meg. Tillis jennifer tilly jennifer tilly. You got half. Yeah and i think it was. Like i dunno hundred million or something. Something crazy that she got and just by being married to sam. Yes mclovin and jim brooks who obviously directed broadcast news. The best movie ever in terms of endearment was one of three originals to. We pretty amazing. I let me take a break. Last call for phone calls close up shop after this in the dan. Patrick thanks for listening to the dan. Patrick show podcast sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out picture this nineteen twenty seven chicago. 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We're gonna do todd. And i are going to take a tour of at all in fact if you're watching on peacock we have the in house camera there and they rolled it in and that thing came from california. It is gorgeous. Yes paulie how legit would this thing be tailgating embarrassingly great. Wow like there's a grill on the back. it's got all these monitors. It's got an awning that comes out. It looks like it's right out of mission. Impossible the rap on it. And i. I'm not i'm not eligible to win. None of us are eligible to win. But everybody else's doesn't cost you anything go to dan. Patrick dot com all the details there fox sports radio dot com. All the details. Doesn't cost you anything. It's our way of saying. Thank you with the help of birth sadi's who they have been a great great title sponsor here on the program. Let me see get a couple. More phone calls in here. Jeremy in wisconsin. Hey jeremy what's on your mind today. Good morning mr patrick. How you doing good sir. What's on your mind. Well first thing. I always wanted to share. It's an honor knowing that. I stepped foot on possibly where well so i went to eastern kentucky university and honor knowing that i may very possibly adapt on rounds hallowed ground where you had passed at one point so i always wanted to share that. Go colonel my My best the weekend is knowing that you know with all the crazy that has happened throughout the covid that we're still going to have a lot of bowl games. I think this is truly one of the greatest times of the year. I would watch every bowl game and we'll plan on watching every game so i think that's great but without being sad you know. We're missing out so my worst of the weekend did there's no stable and we're not going to be able to see potentially university wisconsin oshkosh represent our little town here moscow-washington in play in the stable. But also i just learned this morning of you know army not being eligible for a ball or not playing in a bowl as well and other soldier of twenty two years still enlisted. You know knowing that our officers and future leaders aren't gonna have that last opportunity to represent the black knights and we always kind of or at least i have always held you know officers in such high regard but especially those that attended west point and so it's kind of above farmer for them. So jeremy hot over jeremy. It's not over yet we're gonna. We're gonna do our best to continue to publicize this and army should be playing in a bowl game and thanks. Thanks for the phone call. Thank you for your service at nine and two they. They hopefully will get that opportunity here. And that's why. I said that prissy. Let's have coach on and if we can give this a little bit more than we're more than happy to do it because you know when they've end of football career it's a little bit different than somebody else ending a football career and to celebrate that and you're a senior you beat navy. You beat air force and hopefully you get a chance to play one more game given all the bowl games. I don't think that's asking an awful lot. Jeff in detroit. Hi jeff what's on your mind a down one time to chat. Not the new york needs to be had somebody Phone mccotter becton Just his statement was crazy. Because i know jet fans and the thing about it is. You're paid employees. You haven't been walter harding just kind of know what is not the win not to you know go to a championship game so you know what does situation might just sit down and keep the comedy yourself like that. Not real fans come on. Do barely fathom so and this is just crazy Best worst than we can enjoy football knowing underlies while i really did enjoy Sunday sleight of games mccall hartman's Catch and end zone kinda thing man. It was really nice and My worst college football four words we dick at sad man thank you jeff. Always good to hear from jeff. I watched elf last night and it still holds up. I was you know. I had this weird weekend that i was just flipping around watching a million things and at one point. I think on friday night. I'm watching brock perfidies highschool championship game. And he of course is the iowa state quarterback and i went. I text the danettes i go. What is wrong with me. I'm watching brock high school football game. And i didn't feel ashamed. I'm like all right. I'm okay with this like yeah so what it's four years old. Yes i like that. There's these moments though when you're sitting at home by yourself that you're like what the hell am i doing. I haven't few of those. I was watching. I was watching him like he. Preseason basketball nba. And i i'm going. Why am i watching this watching. The hawks like the you know this is the nba finals. Seventeen eleven thirty nine. I'm sizing up. You know the hawks lineup here coming up. Start the season man. I got a problem. This sports history. Paulie what do you got a few nine hundred fifty. one joe. Dimaggio announced his retirement from Baseball nineteen fifty-nine. Tom landry accepted the head. Coaching position with the dallas cowboys on twenty nine years. The head coach their nineteen sixty nine. Vince lombardi coaches last game. His redskins lost cowboys. Twenty to ten and in nineteen seventy five for the jets fans. John riggins became the first new york jets player to game. One thousand yards rushing. Didn't john have a mohawk. Y'all yeah with the jets. Now he shaved his head except for ojok. Yeah he had like you know curls and john regan's and that was a big deal but you know. 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Andrew Lloyd Webber: Theatrical Impresario

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46:12 min | 1 year ago

Andrew Lloyd Webber: Theatrical Impresario

"How does he do it for fifty years? Andrew Lloyd Webber has been creating smash hit musicals starting with Joseph and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat followed by Jesus Christ superstar in Vita Cats Starlight Express Sunset Boulevard School of rock and others including the invincible Phantom of the opera which will no doubt still be playing on Broadway when we're all dead in on so what's the secret to his long and extraordinary success. We've had a few that didn't work but one of the things that what you gotta do. The most important thing to do is to write what you want. Don't worry about what people again to save. You suddenly decide. You sat down and said now I got to write a musical Restore to that. You could do a musical with artificial intelligence. Yeah but but if you actually sat down and said I wanNA find a formula from us. Let me tell you there is not one. You don't know whether musical's going to beat a hit or not if you talked to lin-manuel Miranda's he he didn't know when he started the work on Hamilton. That he was going to be what it is today. You've got no wadia what you do. is you write it because you want to write prepared. A hung listeners. As composer Andrew Lloyd Webber takes us is through the melodies and the memories Miss Episode of what it takes a podcast about passion vision and perseverance from the Kademi of the chief. I'm your host. Alice winkler the main. This child is gifted and I heard that enough that I started to believe if you have the opportunity not a perfect opportunity and you don't take ticket you may never have another child it all so clear. It was just like the picture started to form itself. There was wing witch ally to prevail over the truth darkness over light their life every day. I wake up and decide today. I'm going to love my life decide. Decide if they're going to break your leg or it's when you go in that place stay out of there and then in long companies differential experiences that but you don't look for you don't plan for the boy you better not miss him. auditable start what I come from a musical family. My father was the director of music at the London College Music and he was the senior. I would suppose you might go lecturer. In composition music composition of the Royal Music and my mother was a piano teacher who really specialized in teaching very young children and and so Music was around me all the time. My brother of course was a leading concert. cellist and possibly one time is Britain's most famous so the the family was was was old music. I was the one who didn't really go for what's called classical music Although I mean it was all the time I was the one who bought rock and pop and of course theater into my family. I had an aunt who Was An actress and I was taken to musicals and opera when I was very small and Really by the time I was seven away even really as young does that theatre had grabby music. Musical theater grabbed me. Nineteen fifty eight the year Andrew. Lloyd Webber Turn. Ten was a banner year ear for musicals and a turning point in his life as he told her interviewer Mary Jordan when she interviewed him at the Academy of Achievements Two Thousand Nineteen International Summit in New York City had an extraordinary winter where I saw my lady I saw west side story. I saw all the movie of G G goodness how sneaked into that and I also saw South Pacific and I'm not sure which one changed. Be Most but so th Pacific completely blew me away. The real thing that's happened to me about the last ten years is that about eight weeks ago. I met Mitzi Gaynor the I mean. I thought when I met Mitzi that I really there was no further place to go is the expression. Lord Andrew Kit quite remember when he composed his first the piece of music but when he was still a young child his father submitted a collection of his tunes to a magazine called Music teacher and they were published. I found a few than the other day and I was rather hoping that I'd find something. Just absolutely wonderful that I can reuse but no but you were seven seven or eight years this one little tiny bit. I I seem to recognize in Jason the amazing technicolor dreamcoat. I suppose I wrote that pretty soon. After if you think about it I mean I was eighteen. Nineteen I read Jason War He was still a student when he joined forces with then aspiring lyricist. Tim Rice to write Joseph and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat. He'd barely outgrown the model toy theatre he had in his home and it was already abundantly clear to his parents that he was spinning off in a different musical direction and they let him spin in A. My parents gave up on me day. They knew I was sort of really doing my own. My own way and finding Diane Path and I think possibly wisely My father was not really very keen for me to be to formally musically glee educated. There was I got a cool. I could be difficult to explain Demi ship to Molin College Oxford in history and I met Tim Rice by that point so I decided really not to take it up which the family of thought of Prestige was pretty olden. Weird thing thing to do especially if you call it a scholarship or exhibition to Oxford. They thought that was. That was a bit weird but my dad didn't and he knew that I would really do what I wanted to do. You were only seventeen you Were aware that you were pretty. Darn good with melodies. And how is it that you knew that Tim Rice would have been a good collaborator. Well I knew then the already. Then that the people I I did do a terminal but I got my very into Oxford theatre very very fast and I thought I'd find you know loads of people who could really write lyrics and Dino Walter. I realize very very quickly the leary writing. goodly writing is very very very diff very specific and good. Louis do not grow on trees and I realized that Tim and his turn of phrase and everything he was doing was was very special and so I think the proof of the pudding really was just the first thing we wrote who's Jesse Mason technicolor. dreamcoat was actually the first thing we wrote because we did a musical that never got on which was sort of commission but Elicits Joseph and we just had a revival in London palladium which has been in Manama success in London and I was struck. I nothing to do with this revival. I just went to remember the puppy really and I just so struck by how his words and everything is still fresh over fifty two years later after we wrote it and I think that answers your question. I knew very very early on that. His words was special and It was London and was very much. It's what they call swinging London in those days where I caught the tail end of it and It but but again I was an old animal because host. Everybody else was doing rock and pop and all that rotten pop was a huge part of my background. I still wanted to do musicals and musicals. I would not what people were doing particularly. Try Not to get too Chew right and we want you to sleep turn without to draw. We'll here you are a teenager. You're sitting at the piano. Play the melody for Tim. Bryce how does it work. Can you tell us how the creative process worked. Well I mean with anything to do musical theater. which is really what I do? I mean you can handwrite melody's in isolation yes. Of course we can think of the mime in any time they could come in the mid. I could think of one in the middle of this interview But really eh with musicals everything starts and finishes with the story. I am a firm believer that a great musical school can't carry a bad story whereas a really great story can carry an okay musical school. I could give many examples of that but you're uh well give us really great example of a of a great story carrying on carrying but service by fantastic. School would be Romeo Juliet Westside westside story. Or if you WANNA go. Shakespeare hamlet the lung king because the Lion King is really the story of handed and it. Those are role great stories. And in my case I I found that I don Sutton musicals. Where perhaps the story isn't really strong enough and no matter what I? I think that the musical never really have been as successful as it wouldn't be if it had been a great story rates to look at look at the story of Joseph is wonderful because it's very simple primal tale about Jealousy and then redemption and forgiveness us and that's private sale. I mean the story. I mean thinking that the Tim Rice wants the story of will the last seven days of Jesus Christ is pretty good and the of course the one show that you come round and say well. He's talking nonsense about great story would be cats because cats hasn't really a story That was that was me trying to do something that I hadn't done before I mean my mother used to read me. CAP EARNS OPRAH's book of practical cats Salaam. Little boy McDermott is a mystery cat. He's called the hidden bowl for. He's the mouse to criminal. Who can defy the law? Oh He's the bafflement of Scotland Yard the flying squad's despair but when they reached the scene of crime. mcavan is is not and Tim. Rice on was like to really right to melodies but with cats I wanted to do was to see if I could set existing verse because I'd never done that before so I started setting the terms thinking to them as a concept piece and and with VIP because Valerie Alia to tears. Elliot's widow gave me some other poems which would not actually published as zones possum. I thought I'd got something bigger. I wasn't sure what it was. And that evolved into cats the musical which was very very much about dance which was happening. In Britain at the time and a whole load of areas of the Vai hadn't really got into but primarily. It started because I wanted to see if I could set existing poetry to Music Matt Tees Cat. He's called the hidden for. He's a master a criminal who can defy the law. He's the momentum. Scotland Yard the flying squad when they reached the scene of crime. McCafferty's not fair Team Cavity Nolan one. One every human at all he breaks the law of gravity lever And when they reached the scene of crime McCafferty's not you may seek him and a lot of people have read. Tsa Elliott only Andrew. Lloyd Webber thought about making that a musical. What is it? That's a little bit different. About how year creative mind works again. I I didn't think initially cats as a musical. I thought that if set these poems maybe they'd have a life as a piece a little bit like in the rewards in Peter and the wolf but again I was thinking if I could actually set these. These maybe there'd be a life you love forty minute concert in which they will or they or they could be selling in as part of a program you know whether it was other other music and never ever ought be musical until battery gave the story of Grizz Abella the Glamour cat which wasn't in the book. And that's when I thought maybe there's something bigger in all of this up so it's Kinda catchy bold almost by accident from filmed almost nine. Aw in a I can smile. Oh I wouldn t you time. I knew he It was very much even when it got to the point that we were going to try it as a musical and we had a cost together. Unlike any of my other shows a lot of it was created in the rehearsal room. I have a lot of it was was me writing music. Something I'd never really specifically done before four Don's and so quite a lot of the music was very much a part of what was going on in in London at that time and love. It was young kids going around. With a leg warmers Muslim pineapple dance center and everything dance suddenly seemed to be cool in Britain and I kind of wanted to write you see. I was only twenty nine thirty when all all of this was going on and I done Evita and then I did something. Tell me on a Sunday which was a one woman show. I just wanted to see whether I could do that. At that time. I was very very restless and wanting to see if I could do things that I hadn't done and challenge by self you. You were only thirteen when you sent a letter to Richard Rodgers. I I very much wanted to meet him. But in fact I didn't meet 'til I star and it had become quite a big hit here on record that time we'll let going very big in nineteen seventy and he and he was very apparently very keen to meet me too so we did meet. What did you talk about what he talked a lot? Actually about Jesus Christ superstar which Montauk about the tool. He was interested in whether or not I thought the writing bought medical through written through written through composed musical where the wasn't any dial which is really opera. Whether you like it in another word was going to be the new way through And whether the Yuna musicals with book scripts with something something that was going to disappear because I suppose Jeez Greg superstar was one of the one of the first will was more or less diverse musical. Lewitt's kind where the Watson Tennis Donald You uh-huh and you know Matt Krohn Ron. Aw Yeah yes I suppose probably my most famous shows are more or less completely threw written and through composed. Because I like writing that way because does it means that as a composer. I'm I'm in control of the dramatic arc of the evening and it's the music is driving along with the story but look I just did. School of Rock in School of rock is something that absolutely has to have a script because it the tempo of the whole thing has to be driven with dialogue as well as music so there is no rule. That's but that's what we talked to that. But I didn't get from him what I really wanted to get out in. which is how his personality as a musician completely changed when he was running with Hammerstein compared to these early years when he was riding with Lawrence Heart? And I mean you could see a little bit of the Rogers that you find in Hammerstein occasionally additionally in the world that he did with hard but it's like two different people. That's what I wanted to ask him and he kept on. Have you found that that when you work when work with Tim. Rice that there's a different interlude Weber. That comes out then I did. I didn't really think so. I mean shatteringly. Of course the last piece I wrote with Tim Rice in nineteen seventy six. So I haven't written with him since apart from very occasional little things where we perhaps have added something to Jersey for. We wrote a song for the movie of Evita but we haven't written a full length piece or anything substantial together enough breath full. Well Gosh not seventy six fourteen years. Isn't it on yet. One still talks about it well. Naturally that's because Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Mhm Rice's musicals have had staying power and revival power last summer in London. You could have gone to a new production of Joseph SUV and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat. Jesus Christ superstar and Evita if you could have managed to get a ticket and then there was the the two thousand eighteen NBC television live concert version of Jesus Christ superstar starring John Legend as Jesus and Sarah Barilla's as Mary Magdalene. How's that for relevancy? It even won an emmy making Andrew Lloyd Webber One of only only fifteen people to win an emmy a grammy and Oscar and a Tony. He's the many now the he's she's one. Oh Shoot up shoot US Shah Shit When writers look back at some great pieces that other people think other people say? Oh my gosh. This is a masterpiece but sometimes I've talked to writers and they can't stand it when you look back at some of the things that you've composed do you ever say oh. I wish I could redo that. Well it's interesting because the movie be made to cats as as we speak And I'm not really involved with it because it was. It was sold it years and years ago but one thing I said to the misses that they they need to make the music of cats a bit off today but I can't. I can't do that. I can't go it. There's something I wrote forty years ago and try and you have to let that go because it's a it's if you give the Pun. Say Cats is unusual animal in my my work but because it was written so much in the rose room because so much of it was was written that time to take it today and for me to rewrite that I think would be would be very difficult so I rather cats go but from what I'm hearing they get very much keeping the essence of what I it did but it's I would never for example letter veto. Go the score superstar go. They have to be as I wrote the one I read them. That's a good way. Every piece is different. If you're one of the few people by the way who has not seen the trailer for cats hats the movie it comes out in time for Christmas reaction to it has been very strong and very divided playing the jellicoe cats in this version. Are Taylor Swift. James Corden Idris Elba. Rebel Wilson Ian mckellen. Jason Derulo End Judi dench among others furry but oddly recognizable as themselves came back to your point about About about does one change angel courses quite interesting that the musical director who's been appointed to do. The cats movie is also going to be helping me on the piece that I'm currently writing at the moment or more or less finish the move as a completely new Cinderella which is great great fun I hope and not quite the Cinderella that everybody might have seen in the past. But it's interesting what I've written is very clearly of two thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand maybe two thousand and twenty. I mean you could tell it's different to the style that I was rising say forty years ago how do you keep up with Zeitgeist. But I do listen to. What's going on a lot you know? I've written for example lead cats as a new song I've written with Taylor swift virtually and it. It's interesting you do. I think it does actually fit into the score. Cats pretty well but equally so it isn't a song that I could've could have written in one thousand nine hundred eighty one. I will say this Taylor Swift's lyric that. She's written for the song we put into. Cats is absolutely spot on again with the thought that a cat might have very very very clever lyric once. It was once Afon on nothing. At least you have something something to bring to visions of rooms ladder. AWW memories were lost but at least you have full by the way. Do you have cats. Do you like cats. Do I have loved cats all my life. I have cats episodes by comedy had cats. I've never been canton my life. No dogs well. This is the program. I've fallen in love this completely wonderful having installed and I bought it because Glenn Close's got one who used to do when we wouldn't be used to do interviews like this together Glenn I son who sometimes done the old thing together. Various private events and pip her little. It'll have knees always sits on the chair beside her. Because Glenn We'd be without a happy he's Dole which I now completely understand. It started whenever you he would always be sleep. But when she said our tell me Andrew about cats the cat's looking around everywhere this and so he has become. I'm part of the act and so I said when when we wanted by these puppies I said we got to have a habit knees and I can't wait to get back to England because he's he's now fifteen weeks and I want to see what's happened. Is it possible you could do a musical called Dodson no no. They tried to seek cool. a Ah once stood the T S Eliot book publishers of tried to do it and as Elliot wisely to do it himself. He toyed with the idea. Because is in possum. There is one poem which is about dogs as well. But it's about the end how cats triumph of the dogs. The it was a very interesting review. A B of this attempt to do a t s Eliot on dogs by I forget who it was very good writer phenomenon. It was but it was very interesting. Review the London Times. That basically said you can't do it about dogs because what Elliott was actually doing was writing very specifically about actually chilly the structure of English society at the time I mean all the characters were recognizable. People really in an IT and with dogs it's It doesn't work because dogs bound around is on cats this sort of Promo inscrutable and of course catchy. He got it right Elliot when he was saying. You know when you see a cat in profound meditation. The reason I tend to you is always the same. It's the fault of the thought of the thought of his name. And it's Elliot got completely right the idea that of the cat and the human quality quality of the cat when you are writing a melody is there some place or that seems to bring the best out new. I'd love to be able to say yes because then I'd be in that place all the time but the answer is no I think of melodies I mean all the time actually they they come and very very often. It'll be I mean for example on it's always easy to talk about something you're working on at the time because it's fresh in my mind but casey nickel who's going to be directing Cinderella just said to me we need something thing here for this particular dramatic situation which we didn't have and it needs to be a celebration and something so I spend you know that next day also thinking. What kind of melody can Iraq to that specific dramatic situation and so so I've written it but I always find that it's very very difficult to be precise about about how one how on creates you you? Every teenager with guitar wants to be able to write music. What was the difference? That for Andrew Lloyd Lord Weber Hundreds of millions of people around the world have heard you. What was it that you had? I don't know I have played. I don't do so strongly strongly old guitar the Call Guitar but I really right on the piano and I suppose thing which are which is different to be and I sort he coming back to is is is that my love of the theatre really means that I i. I've I've never written really an independent Indi- pop song. I've never songs by being hits. Yes but I've never written them outside of something very specific I mean I. Zeal asked to do the nine hundred ninety two Olympic Games theme and I read something about which again is outside musical theater but it was a very specific fain and so I knew what was needed and what they wanted combination for me. It's it very much is in the context of what is he. What does it actually fall And I'm not convinced that somebody said just write a song. I I need a song for somebody say any artist and I'm not GonNa do that all not convinced if I did it would would be my best people do love a good story and what is it about music that can go beyond words that moves people. Well I I in the end. I do enjoy writing music. That he's quite moving. I mean I guess guess because Phantom of the opera became and still so successful I mean A. It is one of those things that you you can't really predict Uh People Forget. The Phantom of the opera probably was will walls the first out and out romantic musical. I wrote everything up to that time. It'd been far faumuina wrote based even cats but a I had a great time. Writing found him because I thought I wanted it to let my high romantic side out and I would have the consequence the did the deed because I think people doing the yea love lava great romance finding the Phantom of the opera season very good story. It is a great great story. I mean it's it's a funny old book. It's a mixture of Spain Darlie beauty and the beast in you know you you name it. He Gusto Meru rotate. Put everything into to that. It was very muddled book. Can't really make up with some romance of a horror story or what. But that's a very good area. Start off with very musical is something that is really perfect in the first place. News Exchange airy skew US US up yum. Mind to in his shoe. You cannot I knew so. Uh thank you Only the can you with musicals. It's hugely about collaboration. And one of the things that I was told when I was I read a musical. That really did not work gold. Jeeves in with a very very successful playwright Alan April but it was a shambles and a mess and that was and I was in Psalm Mason mid twenties when I did that and Harold Prince went to see it and he wrote me a letter saying Debbie discouraged about this gazette. Actually there's some quite good songs in here but he also said something which stayed with me all my life which is that. You can't listen to a musical if you look at it by which he was actually saying that the designs for Jeez right absolutely hideous and I actually met him after that and and And he said what are you writing next and I said well Tim Rice's very keen on the idea of doing a musical but Wrong and he said well if you ever finishing bring it to me and I did and I did that. Sile beach came to be directed by how Ya Sir is so hush Argentina has gone to town over the death of an actress called Eva Payroll. We've all gone Morning all day on morning falling over ourselves to get all the misery. Yeah but that's a really good case in point because anybody who remembers the original production of Evita will remember how it looked and it was it was it was wonderful but I think it's a very good point. I think you could have as you can have with opera. You can have a great production of exactly the same piece of music and a not breakthrough production of exactly the same piece of music and you come away not having had had a great evening and probably not appreciating the music so which is by way of saying that musical theater every ingredient has to be right in your lovely book recommend more called unmasked. You talk about a particular Saturday afternoon when you wrote the melody for. Don't cry for me. Argentina Tena. Can you tell us about Bristol. Actually it was when I was thinking of Really how to I I. I needed to write this idea to Tim. Rises to do the story baby on nine. I needed a kind of entry points and I thought I need to have some kind of anthem for Abour Perran that became hustle theme but in the end became a tragic theme as opposed to being just simply an anthem. And as ever with me I thought of something I've actually seen in real life which was Judy Garland at the talk of the town which was a venue in London in those days and she was the very end of her career. I mean because I think probably a couple of weeks before in the end she died but she was very very late for the performance and it was one of those dinner inches. What people drink you know so quite a lot of people who had a few cocktails put it mildly and when she came on stage it was really hostile hostel Reaction to her and she was also all over the place and couldn't really sing and she still tried to do a little bit of the Trolley Sahlin and she's gave up and did this broken version rush of over the rainbow. And I. I mean the song that you know was her anthem turned on because the audience we actually throwing things onto the stages awful like little little sparrow crushed and somebody's hand. There was something I can. I absolutely can graphically remember benign and I thought if I could find something which could be an anthem. Roeber Perron and then and then create a dramatic situation situation for her where that melody turned on her. In a way I'd be I'd be there so I thought gotTa build slightly lilting tango go and that's when I read a also uh home to keep your distance you own. It seemed to the they were all designed in the solutions to. Maybe the answer was here. All the time Oh I read the melody fairly quickly. We was a great hand today because I was writing. I was with the jeans musical which was out of town at that time and I knew it was going to be a disaster and I remember the not GonNa worry about it this afternoon. I'm going to start writing something new very good piece of advice to people coming into the theater which which is always really having your mind INEX- project's GonNa be because it doesn't matter then how it's your I mean the Old George Abbott who was one hundred and whatever it was when he died. I'm always saying you know when you've got a musical opening. Make sure the ten o'clock morning afterwards you go to meeting about the next one and I was actually should completely follow that advice but I certainly think it's always a good idea to have another thought other thoughts going getting in your head about what you might right. You are so clearly doing what you're meant to do Well the luckiest thing you can have in life is to know what you want to do and then if you are lucky enough to be able to make it your career that's it's fantastic and if as lucky as I've been that have not in your career. But it's allowed you indulge yourself in other things like my number bought. Ah By pictures. I can do what I won't. You are very very lucky. Indeed and that's why I believe very strongly in putting back into the theater what I can hand back into music. What what can the really interesting thing to me? I guess is that you know. I got the opportunity to help. Young people get into the get into music. I eight thousand children. Roughly and getting free music lessons in Ah in Britain and we have the initiative that funded that is listed by the American theatre wing. Here which gained is about getting children younger people into into music and theater. I bought a break difficulties at the moment. Right across the world is is that the arts and music music in particular. Michael is being cut out of the school curriculum. And it's absolutely insane because with the scheme that I'm talking about about eight thousand kids. We have roughly clean in Britain. These are all in schools in pretty rough areas and what happens. It's not about making them turning them into musicians will let's great if few of them do become so but it's about actually giving them something which is liberating and and we find that. Ah Behavior changes that the schools weather the music is embraced. You find that a lot of difficulties with crying knife crime drugs and and everything actually disappear and one of the things we also discover the if you give the children a musical instrument very often. It's the first thing saying that they've ever truly owned. And we find that sense of ownership often leads to kids wanting to come in and work on out of school is. They'll oh come on a Saturday and make music and it's really vital for. I believe the health of society that we keep music in our education system all over the world. Where does music mean to you what it means? I think I think it means that you could be free. Liberated I really you do feel that I think that it. It does through music and appreciation and listening to music. You can find something that is outside side of the noble Monday knife and you find something the truly does enrich you tony. Grammy Oscar and Emmy Award Winner Andrew. Lloyd Webber the the most successful living composer in musical theater in addition to funding Arts Education Lord Andrew has used his considerable fortune. Listen to buy and restore many of London's most iconic theaters to their former glory. Two of those theaters Drury Lane and in Her Majesty's are perhaps not coincidentally the same theaters where he saw my fair lady and west side story when he was a boy boy dreaming of a life in circles his newest work. Cinderella will open on Broadway and on London's West End in two one thousand twenty. I Mel Winkler and this is what it takes from the Kademi of achievement. Happy Holidays what it takes is made possible with funding from the Catherine B Reynolds Foundation. Thanks to them and thanks to for.

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Thursday-When Did CDC Become Muricahs Private Property Stealing, Landlord!?

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23:44 min | 9 months ago

Thursday-When Did CDC Become Muricahs Private Property Stealing, Landlord!?

"The whole show is about people trying to take this guy's property from him. Let's basically the gist of the whole show. The world wants the yellowstone ranch. They don't want. The farm cattle anymore it's environmentally dangerous. Don't think one family on our own the this giant swamp, the property. Sheridan Toddler Sheridan. Yeah. Is is creator of the is the creator of the of the yellowstone series. So there's a despite the moral failings of the characters in the language or whatever, which I just warned you about the point in all three three seasons. Is Kevin Costner is not. He's the Dad John Dutton. Don Sutton. He's not GonNa let the casino operators and a guys that want to build an airport and the guys that want to come in. Now want to build a super duper Hollywood three, million dollar home subdivision or development homes. He's not gonNA. Let them have his property. You're going to raise his cattle as seven generations have and his family is going to stay on the property as well. There's there's something to that. Yeah. The DUTTON farm yellowstone ranch. So Our. Friends at the P.. John Hore VAT. Thomas Drake and others. What is the P. T. F. P.. Tradition family property. This is an assault here. This is a federal government seeing if he could get away, it's using corona hoax the new normal. This is the Global Kabbalah sts. Gates Company. Pushing their stooges at the CDC HHS to see if they can get away with taking people's property. People think that owning guns. And the Second Amendment is the most important right and thing that people can do. In Mark. And it is important. Which is why every state constitution has a gun clause in it and a militia clause in it. Equally important. Though is private property. As a matter of fact, it's so important God enshrined it. In his law. When Moses came down from Mount Sinai with those fifteen. oops. Ten Commandments. What was one of them? Thou shalt not steal. What is shout? Not Steal then directly apply to and what does it imply? Implies. that. There is a thing called property and it belongs to. Someone. And it is a mortal sin for you to take it from that someone. Go out and your own. So. Property just one of the bedrocks of civilization no private property you gotta rotten civilization, and that's why they're gaming member that the whole Corona Corona hoax endeavor is an assault on Christianity it's good versus evil. The same battles been going on for EONS and since man. Fell in. The. Garden. What is the battle of good versus evil and they want look they know the team is no. If you've got private property well, then you house just think of all the things that come from private property you're right to privacy right? Your right to privacy implies that you own something or a piece of land or whatever where you expect privacy on. The fourth and fifth amendments have private property written all over them the third amendment and no one ever talks about we don't use them very much anymore. What is it? The third amendment is no quartering of troops, right? Why not? Because it's your house? That's why. Fetch his kick in claim that it's there. It's a matter of fact, this may be a third amendment case. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention operated under the US Department of Health and Human Services has has asserted jurisdiction over private residential leases nationwide. It intends to curtail evictions until at least the end of the year and in fact, it's new director threatens federal criminal penalties against landlords who ignore Tenet declarations. MADE USING CDC forms I. Keep asking this question. Did the CDC get elevated to the two to become the American oracle? Undo engaging do every day. Because she said I should do. Were you obeying the CDC before. were. You did you did you have Were you carrying around CDC handbook before. You know they have. A. Pamphlet for flow season. Did you know that? He'll tell you to do all sorts of things wash your hands keep. Distant from people that are sneezing and Horgan Hawk. Hacking and coughing, and what have you hacking and coughing reason. Did you obey? Did. You look up and see what CDC rules were. And casual public gatherings. Did you. Know that they have food safety. Rules. Did you know that that you that see that CDC recommends that you not eat beef Unless it's cooked. Five degrees did you know that? Better. Place. Up Get up. Well Well, done to medium well to well done. Is that what they say you should eat beef at. So in other words if you like rare steak, you're you've been disobeying the CDC, you people running around with phages Gd say to do it. Okay. You're going to stop eating medium rare steaks sweetheart. You're gonNA stop going to the Rusty Pelican down the road and ordering a hamburger made rare Aria bigger. The CDC says you shouldn't need anything unless it's well cooked. Maggie was going to chime in with something that you must discovered a nugget. No Say. Standards I should have been dead when I was twelve because I've haven't eaten anything over rare since. Since I was twelve. Mega Con- was one of those of you ever meet her and you want to buy her steak dinner. She's one of those. Just knocked hubs off and go. And serve it to me. From Yellowstone says, take it out the freezer knock the huff goats and done. Stay. In the Chat Room Acoustic Channel Dot com forward slash chat. The poll says me discharge like Sticky Tar Tar. Actually. There is there is A. An appetizer dish that they make the restaurant, the daughter number two used to work at a Pardo's here locally that I always gave you that I love it. It's called Carpaccio stick by Carpaccio. mccaw patchy is you take a Philip Magnum about two inches thick and freeze it. And When you're ready to serve it to a customer you basically serves. An slice it really thin on a meat slicer. And serve it was capers and It's Slipping he could crawl off the plate. He couldn't crawled up the play five minutes ago. But you you've got. My point being. The CDC's been making rules for us to live by for twenty some thirty, some odd years, and you didn't know it and you never obeyed any of them. Why all of a sudden now, you know why? Because you're a Kovic Karen loser sell out that's why. You have the intellectual capacity of a ferret onto double cappuccinos. You don't read anything any longer. You read headlines Your daily consumption of news consists of do see who? Should see that mean A. Like the guys in India crecy everything wherever wherever not sure goes into movie deocracy. There's nothing written on signs. Everything is an icon. You pushed. Where you go would you wanna do everything is communicated you as an icon because that's all the idiots. Five hundred years into the future understand. Actually it's not five hundred years. It's Today. Jeff again, on the CDC's Markaz new landlord. Again, this was announced without congressional input or approval and purely by administrative decree. At, least the eviction in mortgage mortgage moratoriums than the cares act passed by Congress in March we're an active by politicians who face voters fall, and while those earlier moratoriums may well be constitutionally suspect to they're not suspect suspect they're totally unconstitutional. at least in times of sanity, they were limited to federally backed Reynolds and mortgages. The CDC's new record is much broader applying conceivably to all private residential. Lisa's across the United States. So you have the CDC then issuing its own. Rules. Now, without any congressional input whatsoever is sounds to me like case. Don John Manhattan president trump ought to get a hold of this and Oughta go. No. You, need to repeal that rule. I'm ordering you to do it or are replace you. because. He the CDs is see the CDC like all other executive driven agencies reports to the executive branch at the. Of the day. This crusade Channel News. Live from a Crusade Channel News Desk. Mr Barrot has a live news update what's up? Good Morning Crusader is coming from the Associated Press about twenty minutes ago facebook says it will restrict new political ads and this is the key phrase right here in the week before the US presidential election and remove posts that convey misinformation. So this is pretty important for president trump because one of his biggest areas that he uses political ads in stories that are shared is on facebook, they actually tied back which. Is, why facebook was under constant scrutiny on the two years after the twenty sixteen election. So facebook is taking the steps to say in the week before November third, there are going to restrict political ad. So facebook once again, stepping in and pretty much telling people what to do good old a life model Decoy Mark Zuckerberg is going to They want to do this because they want to reduce the likelihood of a post election civil unrest. Going to cause. One, yeah. Exactly. That's exactly the case but the. I understand, let me get this straight. So yes, So neither, the Harris campaign or the trump campaign can run ADS on pride book from October, the twenty eighth or so until November the fourth, that's what it's saying the company as saying that it's going to restrict the new political ads in the week before and remove posts right now not only the restricting ads they're going. To remove posts, convey misinformation about cove in Nineteen Bouhad by hand voting. Bye Bye bye. Okay. So if you don't know this I think Mr Barrot has talked about this before I haven't talked about it a lot but I'll talk about it now Pride Book Employees This Shadow Agency or the shadow company comp company that acts kind of like their slopes. It's called Politica fact. Is Filled with demon credit liars, connivers, and winger lunatics. You try to run some something that Pro America protrude pro got anything through there. It's GONNA come back. That's not true. So fact will remove it. And that's you. They will then. The defer to for a post that you may put up and they say, this post contains inaccuracies emit toots in show we have removed it to protect people. You know this is scary stuff. Here are be it really is you now got major you you've got A. Even. Though there's Companies. Well, they're disseminating public information. You can be private all you want when you start disseminating and you're the the gathering point or the collection point for what ultimately. Becomes public information, and then you have a regulatory rule sitting on that. Do that corruption written all over it. Especially since facebook is not upheld, any standards, whatever standards at facebook feels is misinformation you and I might have gotten tagged but with spreading quote unquote misinformation multiple. Times. Just by showing or sharing our show titles. or mean. Fact check right. You posted, you posted information information that contains in untruths and falsities and misleading information misleading information in I see the Julia. A lot to address a is in the chat room sent me a note last night a email, and she's having a debate with some former college I guess. Fellow. Fellow Yeah. Is it associates students or whatever. Let's go with associates. And she's telling them the truth about the corona bug right and they're they're coming back late with the CDC report about the six percent well, that saw and they all come back and guess guess who they quote. Paulette it affect Yep exactly. A political factor said that the CDC did not say what it said. Nope, so Julianne if you're into a chat room of your of Your Life, you know put put their graphic in there that you sent to me short short people what I'm talking about here. So you got your useful idiots out there on social media. When I checked it, we've created fact Oh. Did you check it with snow? Founded by a husband and wife who were members of move on Dot Org did you know that? Did you? Did you know that the wife divorce husband back in two thousand fifteen and there's a custody battle going on for who owns. The slopes title and that the husband is known supporter. Of the Obama Biden ticket is now and he's now out there stumping for Biden. Did you know that? So, why is why does anyone rely on slopes who died and made snow king? people who are too lazy to do the research themselves Mike View the same people that will cite wikipedia as as actual scholarly evidence It's it's just a continuation into Ediachra. See the way that our attention span has shortened. Oh, well is this true but this little side this little signposts says it is okay. That's I'll go back to posting memes because the little side posts said it's true or not true and continuing to go on I check my back lit affect. Did you now? Congratulations I'm glad you. Take care. Gentlemen this is already going on twitter. Twitter has some an facebook has some nasty nasty algorithms and they are looking for things like the king dude auto pump. Throttle that down there looking for things like uh UH. polly answers miss polly of throttle that down there looking for Patriot nurse and things you know any anyone that's on the wrong side of the fence of you where the right side of truth you know they they they they write these complex algorithms so that when you think you publish something on one of these services, they don't actually show up. And if they do show up then and most people will never see them you don't even get the opportunity to choose whether or not you want to read something or listen to something or not because you're not you, it's not shown to you. So you're already in a censored environment, right but Richard, they presented at dishes of free speech Mecca. Let's not. No. That's that's the promise that social media is supposed to have. It was gonna be the digital town square where ideas we're going to be shared and and debated back and forth. The only problem is, is that the people who have the keys to the car don't agree with that principle at all they'll be happy to take Visi funding and all these other things on that. Promise Their Michigan State and has all these buzzwords about open discussion and diversity and Yadda Yadda except you know diversity of thought not allowed or city of whatever you WANNA say of different opinions is the same things diversity of thought it's just not allowed because it's become because people have like most other things. Slowly over the the past, I don't even know how long facebook's has been make the thing because it was nice before that. But we've just slowly given away that independence of to have our local newspaper, a our source of information or our local news. They've all been swallowed up by conglomerates and with cell phones and. All these other things we've given ourselves over to this information overload I will demonstrate to you the twitter algorithm that suppresses everything that I do or the crusade channel does. So everyone that's Indonesia chat room crusade dot com for slash champ we all by by affirmation yes or no would you agree that the the the daily memes on the corona hoax and the Biden candidacy what have you here are some of the best funniest a most Hard hitting means that you see anywhere you enjoy them you share you can't wait to share them with friends, family, etcetera etcetera. Some of them are even so good that they ought to be published in in nation in. Publications. That are circulated across the United States, for example, the Biden as linen one year yesterday with burn it all down a there are too many of them to meet Mike, K. and railroaded and Canarian guys make some awesome means. Well, Maggie O'CONNELL publishes all of them on the crusade channel twitter feed. Okay so good so far. Twitter twitter says that crusade channel has little over two thousand followers and also says I have a little over twenty, three thousand followers, and by the way that number is like static thousand people can follow me today and it's still be stuck at twenty three So this morning, I did a little test. Let's take some of the best means that we have I want to tweet amount and I'm going to treat them out with this caption. If, we were not shadow ban. The Biden Linen poster would have thirty, five thousand retweets. So for the eight of you who can see enjoy and share, it might get one hundred by the end of the day how many people have seen it fifteen Fifteen people. Big Knowledge. They saw the Biden burn it down mean one of winnowed. Greg. As well, nothing. Nothing. So don't tell me that they're not already doing. Doing this things are in. Now they will let some things through for some people because they want to give the appearance we'll look real, James. Rooch. Just seen well, you do that so that people go like well case there's an exception to the. or there there's the rule. So I I only post Dolly mentioned that just to flesh out that the censorship algorithm, the algorithm is already in high gear. Okay. It's already doing exactly what Barrett said phase pride book says is now going to officially do now just telling you about the. Trump campaign, I'd issue an executive order or I'd sue him. Big. I'm going to I've been working in broadcasting twenty twenty eight years and I can tell you that in the years that I worked the terrestrial and traditional radio broadcasting and when I worked for Sirius Xm when they and it took political ads and they did that. There's a rule. is if the FCC has a rule and it's called a must carry rule. So if Joe, Biden comes to me on the on the and I'm a publicly I'm FCC publicly licensed broadcasting entity and they come to me and they say I want to buy ads on the Mike Church show. In the Patriot channel or the radio station has to sell them to him now. Add on the other side of the coin at the trump campaign comes in and said Oh you're running ads for Biden, you're taking by net name we demand that you take our ads and I have to run them I don't have any choice.

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"A big win for Devendorf"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:10:13 hr | 4 months ago

"A big win for Devendorf"

"Previously on the tony kornheiser show the speech. I would make what lasts thirty five seconds. Go pretty much like this. This is an extraordinary time in which we are living. I'm going to work. Let's get this vaccine out to everybody. See i mean. I think that would make people happy i do. I wouldn't be happy. I would like that. But i think the issue is what what he says doesn't really matter and same with the previous guy because so many people just aren't listening they don't care what you there's nothing he can say for. Certain gotten reports biden is going to have an opening act. I think it's going to be jeff. Ross will be opening. This is general george washington. And you're listening to the tony kornheiser. All righty then. Michael is here six feet one inches away at benny table. My email friends. Sean reese who is a producer for the today show. I emailed him yesterday because he's in town for the inauguration. I said in other circumstances we would have you sit angst benny's table and we have you sit in on the show but we're going to have to wait until are social beings can take over again. I would just say this about inauguration day. We'll have chris cillizza on in a little bit. So chris will talk about it in much greater detail. It is one of those quadrennial events like the olympics when the olympics are on and leap year. You know i it. It's not every year. It's every four years you you don't even think about it for an awfully long time and then election happens. And there is an inauguration day that is mandated in the constitution to be january twentieth. I believe i think it's in the constitution but it's become the custom that it's january twentieth all the time. It might be a noon. I'm not sure. I'll ask chris about that but i tend and i think my son tans as well to look at the world through the eyes of an english major and we spent so much time in our lives reading books and talking about symbolism and some symbolism is obvious in some subtle in some as nuanced and. I'm not smart enough to get the nuance stuff michael is. I'm not but when you wake up on an inauguration day and you know that the previous year is a year of despair despair on every level. If you recall. And i do recall this. There were two things that happened very early when the corona virus came upon us. One was that people said. You don't have to wear masks. Even the medical experts said you don't have to wear masks and shortly thereafter a couple of months later they said. Oh you oughta wear masks. And then there was a study. And i believe the study was from the university of washington. The first study. I could be wrong on this. I'm often wrong and the first study. That was alarming. Said that as many as one hundred and eight hundred thousand people could die. And that was when anthony fauci said if we wear masks. And we try to flatten this curve. And we have social distancing we can get under that number but if we don't we can't one hundred eighty thousand people would die. That was the extremist view. One hundred eighty thousand yesterday. We past four hundred thousand and nobody among us would be stunned. If it didn't go to eight hundred thousand. Nobody would be stunned now. It's an unbelievable amount of people. It is the most in the world. Our country allegedly the smartest allegedly the richest allegedly the most prepared for everything in the most democratic. Certainly and i would endorse all of those other things. And i said we've done the worst with it. We've done the worst with it. Over four hundred thousand people have already died from this virus so it is a year of despair. And then you get an inauguration for a new president and overnight in the capital of the united states of america. there's a soft rain that false and that rain in all of the literature in the world is designed to wash something away and in this case it would wash away The despair and then a freshening wind comes up. And if you were out this morning you know not just that it was chilly but that it felt good that there was a win that felt clean and then that's symbolism is the hope of the next year and the hope of course rides with vaccination and the whole prides with the new administration. I'm not going to get too crazy about this but michael. I wondered if you felt the same as i did now. I felt i felt exactly the same. I think it's important to look to what happened last night. And to the symbolism as to the the image around the reflection pool and to heal we must remember and the moment where we all have where we're looking back at ourselves and you look back at these moments. Where if we knew what we knew. Now about max where would we have been or if we knew how to admit that we were wrong and how we can move on from that so you have that pausing moment as you can take you can take a moment of just. Where are we now is. Is you sometimes like to say. And then you get the cleansing rain and then you get this freshening wind and you get sort of look as you have the changing of the guard. Go leave the windows open for a couple hours peculiar coming afternoon the today but no. I'm with you. One hundred percent optimism. This optimism literally in the air. And that's why it's so important to see what these first hundred days bring and with the promises about the vaccine. The other day. When i was on i complained bitterly. That phil spector was not on a one. And i said he should be on a one and then i read a few paragraphs from glenn rifkin's obituary in the washington post and. I didn't mean to be dismissive. I was just carrying a certain amount of anger. That phil spector wasn't on you didn't mean to be dismissed. I was understand the power of words and the power of the order and structure. There's an order to everything. There's order to an obe it so i well. I used to like to write. Obituaries and the reason was obituaries. Always start the same. You name the person there was a clause. That explains the person you say. The person died. And then you're all at the starting gate together. And then the best riders win as the open it goes on. That is the formula for obituary. Righty i've an email from glenn. Rifkin here says hi. I'm the guy who wrote. The phil spector open in the washington. Post i appreciate shoutout on your podcast this morning and since i've been a very big fan of yours forever. I thought i'd say hello. I'm a journalist and author in the boston area in a longtime contributor to the new york times i've been business writer for many decades and i've written obits for the times for more than ten years. The post asked me to write for them about a year ago. Anyway i agree with you. That spector should have been on a one in my editor. Adam bernstein lobbied hard for that but alas the country is on the edge of civil war cove killing legions daily and dc looks a lot like baghdad circa two thousand and four. So i guess they didn't feel that a crazy old former record producer deserve the space that the times didn't put it on one either as for criticism of the orbit itself. I have to take issue with you on that. It isn't fair to read the first two graphs that say it wasn't enough. That was a long article filled with the details impact of his career. I don't think. I seldom short though he was very short. And i'd be curious how you would have started at giving you newspaper credentials anyway. There's no doubt that phil spector was compelling figure perhaps the embodiment of the intersection of artistic genius and madness again. Thanks for the mention. If you ever want to guess to talk about what. It's like to write obits. Let me know. I'd love to be on your show. This is very very polite and wonderful email. It's laps me on the hand a little bit and rightfully so glenn rifkin's right. I was wrong. I i just i just thought that phil spector was enormously important. I've also gotten emails from people about my comment. That outside of musicians phil spector. George martin were the most important people in the history of russia and role and a number of people most nastily done by mike from burke. Virginia most dismissively nasty done from mike burke virginia so. I don't know that i'm going to get to that one. I don't know that i am. But they point out for example berry gordy and certainly that's berry gordy enormous influence on rock and roll creator of hicksville creative motown sam. Phillips legendary record producer sun records of opening up rock and roll to poor white and poor black people and giving them voice and a place to make records. Both well noted of absolutely true. I mean i would stand on. Phil spector as among those people. I probably shouldn't have limited it to. Phil spector and george martin. So again i slapped around and and it's you know it's alright. People are right. i don't. I'm not the final authority and a lot of things people right so thank you. Thank you for correcting me from ian in new jersey jersey city to remember ian is the one who sent the ravioli. Yes oh center ravioli. And he said all he wanted was a shout on a large ravioli. Large rally that we have not cooked yet that we have not cooked yet. I may go missing today. You know. I don't know here's in writing. I debated for no less than ten minutes. Whether or not they add. Just kidding after my shout request. I'm so glad. I did not add it. I was in tears laughing while listening to gently. Close the door on the request listening to another episode and hearing that you're looking forward to sharing meal with your family as thanks enough neither will bond or i were surprised to hear. Michael wanted to take the box home if you haven't opened the box already and i have not the ravioli. Common sheets have twenty-five fairly easy to transport and share. If you're into that alternatively ravioli on sale but this was the sixteenth and seventeenth of january that has passed now. Use the code people sale twenty hearing sugar in the conversation made me nervous. Some notes use a larger pot than you think. You'll need to boil the water and cook the rabbs once. The water is boiling salt. Liberally add the ravs and keep them moving if they stick they rip. Nobody likes rip deflated. Ravs nobody strain or drain. Ads sauce cheese if you like an enjoy. Ps imagine my surprise while watching pti a ravioli man. Shout out my wife. And i got a kick of. It was a great start to our weekend. Thank you that happened on friday. And so i thought that was nice from john. Tagliarini and anthony. I guess iowa nothing says skewing younger like my favorite new segment. Where's the oh bit. Tony judy complaining about the location in the printed edition of the washington post from joel westbrook in madison virginia. And he will speak to this point that mike from burke virginia didn't such a dismissive nasty way. Which i expect. Dear dr satchmo long longtime second third time in the future when you list important non-performance in rock and roll put george. Martin phil spector wherever you want. But not i. His name was sam phillips and the open the door of sun records to black and white poor boys rhythm and blues walked in that rockabilly and rock and roll walked out. He's probably right and one more. Maybe two more peter. O'brien who's in county tipperary in ireland. Just to let you know. Daylight savings. Time was originally a scandinavian invention do the northern latitudes long winters there. The swedish government introduced it to optimize the growing season in the steel fields. Hope this helps makes a lot of sense. Run in maryland. So you're turning your anger to whoever is responsible for when the sun rises. Let us know how that works out. And from noah and nowhere is our boy right knowing man at nasa yes. He writes mr modern day. Galileo your observation of how the sunrise and sunset isn't changing at the same rate is correct. The reason this happens is that in our winter the earth closer to the sun than in the summer and because we are slightly closer to the earth is actually moving faster in its orbit around the sun for complex reasons. This makes the length of the day longer than twenty four hours while in the summer. The earth is farther from the sun and his orbiting more slowly. The day slightly shorter than twenty. Four hours and iphone disagrees with that change in the length of day is in spread evenly over the time. The sun is up leading to the sunset being later in the day relative to the sunrise. This guy works for nasa. What do you mean. Your phone is disagree. I'm just talking about the concept of time when you look at your actual clock and what are you trust time. Flying has come today. Yeah but we don't have the chambers but we don't do old guy anymore we could do own time has come today. We're already in this show. This is probably almost time to get out. I wanted to mention one other thing. I am one of those people as you know that likes human contact. I don't like computer contact. I don't like when it says contact us and you have to type some crap. Actually you love that type of contact considering you right into every customer service but what i like is to be able ultimately to get somebody on the phone. I got a phone bill the other day from comcast that was outrageously high because it was two months and they claimed i had not sent in the month that was due and they charged me a late fee and i called the number and i got a woman. This was early in the morning last month. Last tuesday i got darlene at comcast. What city she was in. But i got darlene at comcast. I explained my situation. I told her when. I sent the check. I told her what number the check was told her how much it was four. I said the reason it was late because the bill didn't come to me. I said if you look at our of paying bills you'll see we're always on time you've never had to give us a late fee and she checked and she said you're right about that. I said that check is in the mail. I checked should be you already because that was sent out on january fifth. That should be the already. And she said. I'll get back to you. In the interim i got another bill and what instead of paying the double bill. I deducted the late fee which she told me. I could do and i paid the standard bill that i get from comcast in fact yesterday i got a call from darlene. Darlene said. yes we got your check yes it was just as you said yes we have deduct the late fee and yes. Everything's fine. thank you. And i said no. Thank you thank you for. Not only taking the call being there early in the morning for people like me that want to call in but for calling back as you said you would so i felt all was right all was right in the world when that happened. We will take a break when we come back. Chris cillizza will join us. He will talk about inauguration day. I'm tony kornheiser. You're listening to the tony kornheiser show. You can experience the epic adventure wonder woman nineteen eighty-four in theaters and on hbo max now streaming at no extra cost to hbo mac subscribers plus with hbo max stream the greatest collection of series. Movies and exclusive max originals. All in one place. 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We're happy to be there under study. We hope we to share with you soon. Our song salute to you with the disoriented adventure of peter yarrow. And it's funny. This is called. have more the more jig. Okay that's on. And it plays in chris cillizza our dear friend who joins us now and i guess i really want to start with eric even dorf but i'm not going to. I'm going to start inauguration. And then i'll get even door. The italian music controlling irish. So the next time we'll get the best of dean martin. Do that some more for you. I'm so so so first series of just short answers what what happens today. Is there a specified time for inauguration. A specified place for inauguration a specified routine dog. You sort of The constitution says that you know noon on this day The new president is sworn in so at twelve o one or two around that Biden will be sworn in on the west front of the capitol which has is the same place two weeks ago to the day You know you had rioters sort of you know with their flags and you know all over that area you know. One of the two entrances to the to the capital. You can see all the way down to the washington. Mind all the way down the mall exactly right and So he will be there just as you know. Obama was just as trump was the same same thing that the difference will be You won't really have any crowd to speak of Biden has encourage people not to come. It's extremely hard to get anywhere close to The us capital Right now and The members of congress senators Members of the house will be there. He'll be sworn in by chief. Justice john roberts they'll be more spread out than they normally are normally. They're pretty well packed in They obviously won't be because of covid and then the other big difference will be that Donald trump will not be there He is the first president since andrew johnson to not attend his successor's inauguration so he is As we speak. Jetting off. Or about to jet off to florida That's that he won't be there biden. have not spoken So that that's the big difference but other than that at twelve. O one joe biden will become the forty six percent of the united states and then There's a series of other things who issue some executive orders. The the bill swear in three new senators comma harris with swearing three new senators at four o'clock. And then tonight biden's going to give remarks. Okay so. I know that the chief justice will administer the oath is that in the constitution or is that just become something that we do. I think that's something that we do if i'm not gonna. Although some constitutional nerd will undoubtedly correct me. And tell me. I'm an idiot and they should have my job I think that's just something we do one other thing that i should know Sony so to my ore Is going to administer the oath to kamla harrison. Let's not forget. Obviously you know comma hair. There's so much focus on the president understandably but comma harris will be the first female vice president i A person of color as the vice president. I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of History being made today so much of the focus obviously on trump Leaving and biden coming in but obviously comma harris. That's a big deal to so she'll be sworn in by sunny to meyer. Okay so in my lifetime. I have watched inaugurations time and time and time again. They're always big. Parades always big parade. Our wrokers always standing at the side of the parade and then the president comes over and talks to al. Roker all the time this happens. Is there a parade today. No nope rate All that stuff Is this was not because of coverted. I excuse me this is not because of the. Us capital rights. There's who's because of cova right. This is this is biden not wanting there to be large crowds now. It turned out that that decision which was january. Sixth basically became impractical after January six anyway because they weren't gonna allow that to happen but it was. That was done for covid. Reasons not gather people so there's gonna be a lot different. I mean there's no you know. I it's gonna be the day will be a little bit different. I should say like just for star power like during the ceremony Lady gaga is gonna sing the national anthem when they start the swearing in. Which is i think around eleven. Thirty eleven forty. Five jennifer lopez is going to perform. And you know there's there's gonna be some pomp and circumstance j just with less people and left of it. I think is probably it'll look similar to what you've seen in the past. Just not the same. Now you said biden will make a speech tonight. Will he make no remarks outside. At the moment of the inauguration. I think see i the schedule i saw and i just checked on this before we got on the phone has him speaking at eight. Forty five tonight typically. He would speak sort of right after he was running. He made that and then speak again. Honestly i'm not totally sure. Some of this is sort of slow coming together or slow being passed through just because there there are so many things that are different about it including trump not being there you know biden just as an example by normally you would fly on A government issued plane from wherever you to washington the night before the inauguration But because trump in his administration of not really acknowledged biden. Being president biden had to fly in a private plane from delaware to which by the way is my preferred mode of travel. But you know he had to fly on a on a private plane from delaware to dc which is like a ten minute flight but regardless So so much of this is different. I don't know the answer to and i'm just going off the schedule eyesore. Which had remarks tonight. I. you're right though. Typically they speak their sworn and he says something so. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. I'm just i'm not entirely certain expecting demonstrations in various state capitals. We're expecting anything in washington. Dc away from the site of the inauguration back. I think there will be some now. I for people who don't live in and around pc They may not be familiar. But you really. You'd be hard pressed to get anywhere close to capitol hill where this was happening today. I mean he really like like i have to do. Tv later. humble brag and I was just trying to get you know. Figure out how to get down there. I mean basically almost every bridge from. Virginia where i live in. Dc is closed And so i. There may be some but at least in pc. I'd be hard pressed to think it's going to be massive and a lot of that is because of what two weeks ago. Now state capitals They've ordered a bunch of state. Capitals closed Governors have said. You know we're just gonna closes today out of an abundance of caution I don't know the answer to that. what i know so far is that some of these protests that were expected have been smaller than expected. That doesn't mean there couldn't be big ones today But i think what happened on. January six has really heightened awareness and made it if you're going through protests at least indicate you're going gonna do it a hell of a aways from where the action is happening. Let me Let me move to the to the immediate future will there. In fact the impeachment hearing of donald trump. Yes there will be a trial It it is. It will basically be the day after the house officially moves the articles of impeachment. Obviously trump was impeached formally impeached by the house. Last week on one count of inciting a riot are incitement. I think is what it was when they formally transfer like pressing a button. They formally transferred the articles of impeachment. Senate the then has to start a trial by one o'clock on the day after they received it so yes there will be a trial the the the question is really be convicted. Which requires sixty seven senators democrats as of four hot today will have the senate majority. They'll have fifty seats. But kamla harris will be breaking is so they'll have the senate majority That means seventeen because of math That means seventeen democratic republicans. Excuse me have to cross over and vote to convict. Donald trump assuming every democrat does. I don't think there are seventeen today. i'm skeptical. There will be seventeen when the time comes to vote. But it's at least a possibility. Now the thing is he'll be convicted and removed from office. But he's already out of office so the removal doesn't really matter the thing to watch then is they then can hold another vote if they do. Vote to convict and remove them. They can hold another vote that bans him from ever seeking office again. They don't have to but they can end that vote would require only a simple majority so they could if they do convict him and remove him. Although it's technicality they then could move to a ban vote and that's what really matters because that would keep him from running for president again. Everybody knows where i am on this. I just think you're tying the hands of the incoming president when you do something like this. What do you immediately expect. From biden hill sign of. He'll sign a bunch of executive orders today. a couple of them will be. I think he's gonna science. They think seventeen which are across a bunch of Different areas of them are covert focused. mask mandate if you're a federal employee sued be his first order of business is to stop the pandemic now and we'll see i think we'll be his when he floor our day. Production of vaccine distribution of vaccine using private companies to distribute it not just government companies and those things and just one of the things i was going to add into your private companies thing is he will invoke the defense production act which is something we had never heard of prior to corona virus. But is exactly what you just said. The government can sort of lean on private companies to do things that the government want in time in washington state washington state. The governor asked for help from starbucks. I guarantee you that will be twenty times more efficient than the government. Don't you think yup and the truth of the matter is worse still on vaccinations. We're not where we should be. So the biden has promised you know biden has made central to his first hundred days. Which since fdr has been saying the first one hundred days. Well how much can you get on. He said a hundred million vaccines in the first one days. One hundred million vaccines administered not just produced That would be about a third of the country you know. We have three hundred and thirty million people So yes that will be the the overriding folk. It's and i think the way in which his first hundred days will probably be judged in the way that i think you know donald. Donald trump's last year has been deemed at sort of abject failure due to the way that he handled it so. This is very good. And i appreciate this now. Tell us i will set this up. By saying eric devon dorf was very very good guard at syracuse university. He's somebody that. Chris despises for his facial. Hair the thin wispy downer yet. Yeah right that that that you hate so much among syracuse people. Chris hates them. All because chris georgetown person syracuse in recent years has been a significantly better basketball team. Well then george strait. it's true. So so what is your contact with even dorsal. I know you you loathe. You've said this thousand times. I avoid personal attacks on my twitter. Basically because of the pr people tell me too but They don't care. If i personally attack former college athletes so adage you know all the syracuse people and even door is a very active twitter guy attack him constantly for his chin strap beards punk punk nature and it turns out of course. Because i'm the worst person in the world that he's like he's like a genuinely nice guy who's like raising money for syracuse businesses. Yeah i mean it's just a classic music. I'm just like it is so nice so we have developed a twitter relationship like a. He has been nice enough to overlook my my constant ad hominem attacks on him in the past And we've developed a twitter relationships donated money to you know help charitable organization that. He does up there and so georgetown syracuse game. Which was turned out to be the last game. Georgetown plates because they are now in cova Pause the last three games would be cancelled. Georgetown played syracuse. And i stupidly drunk on my own idiocy Sent him a note saying hey. What are we betting on this game. And he said well. If georgetown wins our a a georgetown shared you're accusing and posted on twitter. And if syracuse wins You have to do the same for a syracuse shirt. So needless to say. I think either today or tomorrow. My derrick coleman shirt will be arriving. And i will be posing in size small. You know obviously. I need to accentuate muscle. you know. Women's small need to make sure the guns look appropriately accentuated but yes so You know this is just shows might might georgetown fandom. I actually apologized to my kids like two weeks ago. They were in bed. And i said boy. I want to apologize for making the georgetown fans. I mean it's just just so it's a good sign when the team. Three games are paused for covid. You know like covert protocols. And i'm like that's not the worst outcome because we don't play meaning you know it's just not it's not good. They're picked last in the big east. And i think they may finish last in the big east. I'll at least have a picture in perpetuity of me in a bright orange teacher derrick. Komo's a great player. He was he really. Wasn't there so it could be a lot worse. They could have given you somebody just awful jersey terrible. I mean to me who were the two best players ever while carmelo. So i'm going to go to borough washington d. derrick coleman and carmelo anthony. They're the best. They're the best all right all right. Thank you chris. Thank you buddy. Bay heim more annoying. Not only is the e the son of a coach who i hate. But his name is buddy. It's good that you didn't leave this appearance without savaging somebody twenty years old. I'm the worst eliza boys and girls. We'll take a break. We will come back jeff. Passan will join us and talk about the story of the new york mets general manager and how he got fired and also talk about things happening with free agency. I am tony kornheiser. This is the tony kornheiser. This is the simply safe add. Everyone wants to keep their home and family safe. Whether it's from a break ina fire flooding or medical emergency simplisafe home security delivers award winning twenty four seven protection with simply safe. You don't just get an arsenal of cameras and sensors although you get those you get the best professional monitors in the business. 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But before we get to that overnight don sutton a hall of fame pitcher most famous for being one of the dodgers and coming up when the dodgers had colfax drysdale and claude osteen. He passed away at seventy five years. Old a one. What did you win. Three hundred fourteen or three twenty four or something like that. He went over three hundred games. And dave shine just rights glowingly of him today and his ability and his dependability. What are your thoughts jeff. What are your first thoughts of don sutton. Don sutton to me is an example of how baseball's a different sport than any other. It's taken me a while. Tony like when. I started writing about baseball. I appreciated dominance. I wanted to see the best players. Do the best things and don sutton was. Never one of the best you know. He wasn't a guy who never finished higher than third. In the cy young voting. He wasn't someone who struck out of out of people colfax was a bright shining still are That went in faded quickly. Don sutton was like that old lamp. That just wouldn't die and he kept going and going and going. And as i've gotten older i've i've appreciated longevity in baseball particularly it is hard to drag your ass out of bed every morning and know that you're going to go out there and compete against the best people in the world thirty five to forty times a year which cheated when he was pitching and to do that for twenty three consecutive years and to never miss a start because of an arm injury and guy wrote a book on arm injuries so it's particularly Important to me to be able to go out there and make a star. Every time your turn comes around in the rotation. That's what don sutton did. And it is a special quality followed that up with a broadcasting career. That was distinguished. I mean. he's he's just. He's literally a throwback and I i. I grew to like him a lot more as a baseball player. I think as i myself aged and began understanding what it takes to do what he did. To underline jeff's point in india shining story today sutton made seven hundred fifty. Six career starts. That's third all time behind cy. Young for whom. All the awards are named and nolan ryan and he said to have never missed a start across twenty three seasons from nineteen sixty six to nine thousand nine hundred ninety six. That's twenty one seasons sudden pitched at least two hundred innings and all but one season nineteen eighty-one which was shortened by a work stoppage. Jeff you have to admire that enormously. I mean at that is what's the most important thing availability right. That's the ldp like the most and and that's what he did. That's what yeah that's exactly right and to now thinking about thinking about what he did for his managers to know that not only. Are you going to get good quality baseball. Or you're very likely to get good quality six seven eight innings from don sutton. But you're never going to have to worry about going down and bringing up that guy from triple a. Who's either never good enough to make it in the big league time or who is it. The beginning of his career. And you have no idea what you're going to be getting from one hundred percent right. Let me move on to the story in. Espn that led directly to the firing of jared. Puerto the mets gm. I think fit. I think that you have to ask this question. And i know as a journalist who tried to find this out. Did the cubs know about this. Did the diamondbacks know about this. Did anybody in. The history of jared porter see anything like this prior to this story from our reporting we have not found that yet Now there was one person with the cubs. And when i say we have not done that we have not found that anybody high up in the organization knew about this and and buried it From our reporting there was one person in the cubs organization. Who did know. This was someone who was from the home country of of the woman. To whom Jared porter sent all of these text. Messages sent Explicit images sent a nude picture and instead of going and reporting it up the chain and to his bosses he more tried to play go-between between the two he said essentially when i talked with him. i just. I wanted everything to be okay. I wanted to listen to both of them. And you know you certainly can argue that. There's a right side in this situation and a wrong side. Aside that deserves to be listened to anna aside that does not But he was friends with both of them. And i don't know if he wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt but He you know he was like he was like the kid whose parents are fighting and says i just want everything to go away because this was this was so ugly and it was so clear to anyone who saw it just how grievous it was and i you know i was talking to someone in the mets organization the night that the story ram and i i had spoken sandy alderson earlier and and you know this is like tony. You give them a sense of what this story says beforehand because it's the it's the courtesy that you offer. And because i think it's the right thing to do. And the person in the mets organization said this is so much worse than we thought it was going to be. Well it is. I mean if you read the story. And i have read the story. It is a it's an open and shut case of sexual harassment. It's opening shot and so firing is exactly what had to have happened. When you confronted either in person or over the phone. Jared puerto about this. What was his initial reaction I think he was taken aback. you know. I brought up right. I've known jared porter by the way for a while. Now you know going back to the cubs days and when when you make a phone call like that you have to be up front with him. And so i said listen man I've got some really difficult questions. I'm going to ask you and i hadn't talked to them and In a couple of months so probably a little longer though so he you know he has no idea what this might be. I'm just messing around with him. And and i think from the beginning it was very clear. I brought up text messages. That he exchanged for the reporter and he said I asked him if that's if that sounded familiar. And he's like i'm not quite sure so I got into a little more detail. She was from a foreign country and it was back in two thousand sixteen and he said yeah. Yeah that sounds about right And i said you sent You said texts you sent images And you sent explicit photos and he said no no no. I didn't i didn't send any pictures. And when he said that i was like well. Yeah you did. 'cause i'm looking at them. You know i you know and and in that in that situation you know hindsight. I'm i'm putting myself in his shoes right there. If i'm confronted with something that i know was wrong and it any you know. I think he knows it was wrong. I think any anybody with With a functioning brain knows that it's wrong. His his first instinct was to minimize what he did now. I don't know if it's because he had purged from his mind because he had tried to forget it because he was embarrassed by it or because he was just trying to lie his way out of it and and that was the first instinct to but I i think pretty quickly. He understood the gravity of the situation and understood that this was going to have a profound parm on his career in a profound impact on his life. Let me get to one thing from journalism standpoint. Because i'm always interested in this. I found it very interesting. That you're aware In two thousand seventeen of the existence of these tax than had viewed them in two thousand seventeen and did not go to print because the woman who had been abused by these texts and images was worried about the impact on her particular career. I just wonder how. I think you did the right thing. I do by not printing it. But i wonder how it came about that that she then decided in recent times no. I'm going to go forward with this now. So let me let me run through time line here. I actually did not know about them. In two thousand seven. I was still working on. Yahoo yahoo at that point but our colleague and friend mina kimes she died. She didn't know about them. Yes and so mean Had had gotten the texts from a source and and saw them and was naturally horrified and Connected with the woman who agreed to talk with her and they discussed the possibility of doing a story about porter and about the tax The woman at some point. I don't know exactly when decided that she did not want to do the story anymore. And she didn't want to do the story because she was still working in journalism at that point and and her her work had taken her to two very uncomfortable. Places she you know when she went to different ballpark. She worried that she was going to get a text. From jared porter the not some sort of thing that The texts were sent. She said please never text me again. He apologized for what he had done. And it went away there. There were lingering effects of this. The effects that still to this day are in this woman's life So she didn't want it for her to harm her career. She ended up going back to her home country and when she was back in her home. Country Meena kept in touch with her and she you know she was following along. What happened in. Jared borders career even after she left the business and went into finance and saw that he had ascended to to met's gm and in his introductory press conference. Tony he talked about it being dream job. And here's a woman who had done nothing but try to do what. Journalists do which is making new source and he had subjected her to some pretty awful stuff and she was the one who lost her dream job on account of that. That didn't seem right. That didn't seem fair that that this person who had done this was a sending in his in his career with with impunity. And i i don't sit and look at this and say that this was revenge. I think that all of us when something bad happens to us reach a point where we're like this. How the world really operates. And if this is how the world really operates doesn't deserve to know this deserve to know so that in a even greater position of power than he was in before he doesn't subject others the same thing he did to me. Isn't it important to know to expose the way that women aren't treated tony in baseball but in sports period and it was courageous of her to do what she did. It was brave of her to do what she did. She did it knowing that. There's the possibility that she's going to be ousted And that they're going to be demonstrable effects back at home for her because the country in which she lives does not tend to to rally around women who are in the middle of sexual scandals It's backward antediluvian. But it's the reality where she lives and she she did this at great personal risk and I know a lot a lot of women in the sports industry yesterday. Who were so so for it. Now thanks thanks for all of that and that detail. I just i. I'll get off that in. Thank you for that. And i just need to ask you because you're a baseball guy. Kyle schwarzer john lester. Free agents who have signed one year deals you looking around. I was looking around for team to spend money on a free agent. Apparently george springer who is a former. Mvp of the world series is going to go to toronto. Is that a long term deal. Is that a multi year deal or is it another short deal. That is a six year. One hundred fifty million dollar deal tony and it is. It will be the biggest contract. This offseason and george springer was always expected to get that He did really well in this market and he did really well for being a guy who's in his thirties. S and who all likelihood is not going to be a long-term center fielder. Don't get me wrong. George springer kept himself in phenomenal shape and he's an amazing athlete. guys just tend to age out of centerfield we've seen others in that position and I think ultimately he's gonna end up in a corner and it's absolute price for a corner but the blue jays They wanna win. They really want to win. And when you have bogus. Shit who's dynamic Hetero shorts up and vlad guerrero junior. Who's prime for a breakout and kevin busy. Oh hey oscar hernandez i mean you can go on and on down that line up They're good and and i think the yankees and raise had a little Loved in their throat yesterday when that signing broke you look at it. Toronto and san diego as teams. That were nothing special for a long period of time. Certainly san diego not anything special. Toronto has some world series titles but they are at you know extremes in terms of travel and seattle would be another one of those teams that have not done. Well for wild gonna gonna make a big impact in the next couple of years. Excuse me jeff thanks so much. We'll talk soon okay. Thanks for donnie. Jeff passan very very good. We'll take a break. We'll come back with emails and jingles. I'm tony kornheiser. You're listening to the tony kornheiser. Show hard to transition to this read. But i'll do my best. Let's talk about love yup. We're doing it if there's one thing that got us through this past year other than our favorite teams winning sorta got tired of winning after after these years it is love love and underpants and that means getting extra cheesy for the ones. We love most on valentine's day. Mendis is here to help you win over your valentine. 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I hope this helps while that's true that does help from tim. Aaron in buffalo new york after listening to your discussion regarding sunrise and sunset not changing by the same amount. You're correct and here's why the earth orbit is an ellipse not a circle. The elliptical orbit means the earth moves slightly faster than its orbit wants closer to the sun and slower further away. This causes sunrise and sunset to shift at different rates. Being an engineer. I decided to develop a computer model of the earth's orbit around the sun and daylight information for anywhere on the planet. I attached a printout of the solar calendar. For your old podcast. Home they'll be only minor deviations local to that location therefore interesting items of note. The earliest sunset is december seventh at four forty five pm. Not twenty first. The latest sunrises january fourth this is buttressing what what we just read. January fourth at seven twenty seven am by this date that sunset has moved back fifteen minutes or good so i think we're good now and please shoutout a shout out to my son. Edward aaron who's an accounting senior at binghamton and sports editor for pipedream. Well we should have applied for the scholarship. Thank you timmy. Should've applied from. Here's another one. My name is gino. Agnelli i'm fifty four year old hospital pharmacy director in florence alabama. I'm six four to forty right. Left left right second right out of the roundabout left. I often mind the content of the pod for memorable quotes i can incorporate into conversations and meetings to quietly offer dog whistles to other little's. I've scored gold with the obvious. Use the code and sanctimonious subaru drivers after friday's spot. I can't wait to bring the house down with what will instantly become an all time. Classic slip it to me sometime. When i'm drunk then see if i like. It can't write this stuff unless you have a bic kevin burke in chicago sunday january seventeenth buck town chicago. Approximately nine fourteen a m in line on the sidewalk at local coffee and bagel place got us and grocer free ad waiting on pickup border with seven or eight other folks barista says kelly two coffees and three bagel sandwiches. I say out loud half. They got the bagel sandwiches. Today people look at me. Weird i go back to looking at my phone. Get called and cubs hoodie guy grabs. It's bad you walks by and says got the bagel sandwiches. I turned in something. Like she's are- he kept walking. A from pat pusher in keller texas. My name is pat pusher aka. old school nanna. i live in keller texas yesterday. My granddaughter played me recording since it was about me after she explained what a podcast was. That was pretty excited to know that my grandson her husband had over six years. Patrick ratliff sent in a message to your show a message like a message in a bottle excited. That is until i finished listening to what. Here's my rebuttal to his comments. Yes i'm old school. But i should be. I'm seventy four. Yes i cooked the old fashioned way just like my momma didn't raleigh north carolina so i would never changed certain items because i'm afraid she might turn over in her grave if i did yes. I do use butter and not manage to make my outstanding grilled cheese sandwiches. But if i did use mayonnaise on my girl she'll be dukes the best mayor in the state's best mayo. In the states of texas and north carolina. Patrick is family and he has to know that i and the rest of the crew will always happens back and we will defend against all enemies but he also must understand that he needs to show respect to an old lady called nanna since she is always right. Ps guys wherever in texas stopped by. And i'll cook you some good texas food with butter from michael long in houston texas. Please stop talking about mayonnaise. I love your show but if this continues. I'll be forced to take a brief hiatus until the to return. Let me explain when i was in elementary school at westbrook. Elementary in bethesda maryland. I was the kid that got lice. Instead of buying the very effective and safe to use anti shampoo with the drugstore my mother decided to use a home remedy. This involved coating my hair and what felt like an entire jar of mayonnaise and a shower cap and letting it sit for four hours in attempt to suffocate the bugs. I don't recall if it was blue plate dukes or helmsman because you're the not kill the lice in providing a severe aversion demand as that. I've slowly worked over the last twenty five years of my life to this food items such as potato salad that smell too much like mayo make began listening to all the mayo talk. Last couple of weeks brings back some terrible memories and may potentially cause a setback in my recovery. Please stop before this descends into putting may on your pay day bar now you okay with the sound of coming out of the squirt bottle from score bradley in las vegas. Please stop talking so much about food. I was listening to the podcast. Run eleven thirty last night and for the third podcast and role. You're still talking about mayonnaise on the outside of grilled cheese. I drag myself out of bed into the kitchen to make one. Because by the time you to stop rambling. I was starving and it is better on the outside and a little insight. I prefer crust from patrick smith in annandale. Virginia i've been following the butter versus mayo debate carefully so last night. I told the woman that. I'm related to by marriage that we should have tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches for dinner in preparation. I purchase them. Duke's mayonnaise in order to test out michael's recommendation while i followed michaels instructions and the result was a spectacular grilled cheese. The bread was grilled perfectly. Had great crunch so now. I need to know the rest of michael's grilled cheese secrets. What type of bread does he recommend. I use the tuscan piney. Tuscan pain peony. Hey bread from trader. Joe's kind of jesus michael us does he stick with the classic american cheese. Does he use a sharp wisconsin. Cheddar would he ever try something crazy and use pepper jack cheese. That's a very personal questions. That's like getting into the mayonnaise. I'll have to think about that. I want to share that level of detail. Mark gorman in fredericton new brunswick canada. 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01/22/21 DPS Hour 3 Johnny Bench

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01/22/21 DPS Hour 3 Johnny Bench

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You'll hear and hank aaron interview but hank has just passed away at the age of eighty. Six joins us this past april and we thought that instead of talking about him how about we go back when we talked to him so in about twenty minutes from now we will bring this to you the last interview that we did. And that's many interviews over the course of my career with one of my idols. Hank aaron who passed away the age of eighty six last five months. Some of baseball's all time greats. Pass away tom. Seaver lou brock. Joe morgan bob gibson don sutton and now hank aaron. We'll get phone calls as well. Eight seven seven three. Dp email address tps. Dan patrick dot com twitter handle at. Dp show big football weekend. We don't have an updated status report on patrick mahomes but i would probably say if i'm a kansas city chiefs you got a lot of reps in practice and probably will be medically cleared out a concussion protocol at some point today. Now we're more than two days away stowed plenty of time. He's still able to get in his reps. That's what i wondered about during the The week if he was going to be hampered in how much time he would get with the first team offense. Here's something to keep in mind. In the regular season nobody allowed more completions too tight ends than the buffalo bills. Did travis kelsey is coming off a record setting year. Just something to file away when we look at that offense. And if you go. I'll be damned travis. Kelsey is open all the time now. Not that buffalo's gonna go. You know what we just can't cover a tight end. We'll let him and his catches they're going to do their best to try to stop. Travis kelsey easier said than done but buffalo surrendered more catches too tight ends this year than any. Nfl team and one of the amazing things about the nfl's how closely matched these teams are. The lines are hovering around field goal for both of these games this weekend and you never know. I always feel like there's one close game and then there's a blow out so many times of funny bounce missed past changes. Everything and legacies are defined by the thinnest of margins. When you think about tom brady. He wants six super bowls. Look how close. He was to winning other super bowls. Look how closely was to losing super bowls. It's a fine line because he could have beaten. Eagles murray could have beaten the giants. But then you look back on. Some of these friendly bounces or adam venit terry with clutch field goals. You had you know the tuck game when that should have been a fumble. They shouldn't even gotten to the super bowl. But this is how legacies are built by the thinnest of margins. And i go back to patrick mahomes. Were already to say. He'll be one of the great quarterbacks of all time go back to the regular season when we thought he dislocated his knee. Go back to the postseason. When he was behind against the texans behind against the titans they ended up winning those games in the super bowl. He's down ten fourth quarter six minutes to go. Jimmy garoppolo completes a pass san francisco. Who's going to win. That game. Chris jones knocks it down the slightest of margins there. See patrick mahomes josh allen going toe to toe and then of course you have aaron rodgers and tom brady a trip to the super bowl hangs in the balance i said to todd. There's a couple of people. I'd love to hear if they were able to speak about hank. Aaron the former commissioner. Bud ceiling who was a lifelong dear friend of hank. Aaron's also bob euchre. I thought that those would be too great people to have to talk about hank. Aaron and then i said to fritzy want save. Johnny bench would join us because it feels like janis a member of the show and he also was there. He faced on sutton. But hank hank aaron hit seven fourteen. He was in cincinnati and a jack. Billingham was the pitcher. I believe johnny was behind home plate for that home. Run that hank it. And then he goes to atlanta and then hit the homerun off al downing seven fifteen. Yeah porn a couple of years ago. The topic of changing sports teams came up in different baseball teams. There's an article written about it. And the great atlanta brave. Dale murphy tweeted out. Always felt that hammer and hank the hammer was one of the coolest nicknames ever if the atlanta braves ever consider a name change make the atlanta hammer's who that is one of the better ideas if that situation came to pass. I've heard a while. Yeah i wondered about that. And i think johnny was behind the plate. When when hank kit that a. But i remember that hank was gonna sit out and then buoy kyun the commissioner said. No you're playing in the game. Because hank wanted to set the record in atlanta and so hang played and then hit the home. Run off jack. Billingham eight seven seven three. Dp show email address dp. Dan patrick dot com twitter handle at. Dp show rob in new orleans. Say rob thanks for joining us. Hey danny i sure also don't want to make bring down the mood or anything. But i grew up outside of atlanta and Henry aaron was my first sports hero and i actually got to see him. Play in fulton county stadium and i. I've had many disagreements with people over the years about who the greatest hitter that ever was was and a lot of them. Were from boston. And i said ten aaron ten rarin look it up and i've always appreciated the fact that you championed him So thank you danny and a sad day but go hammers. Yeah i there was nothing dramatic about him he. He lacked flair. But that's not who he was but he was in that group with mickey mantle. And willie mays. You can't be any more flamboyant than those guys were the way they played but hank just went about his business. Hank never hit. Fifty home runs in a season but back then if you hit thirty thirty five you're power hitter. And if you look at the effortless swing of hank aaron now there was no launch angle. There is no three hundred hitter for his career. Hank had this ability to flip his wrist. He just flicked his wrist. And somehow somebody at that size could hit the ball that far in hit seven hundred and fifty home runs. Let's bring in the hall of famer johnny bench who went toe to toe. I'm sure hang quite a few times. And i don't know when you got the news Johnny but if i'm bringing it to you now i apologize but i thought you'd be a good person to to have on. Well actually go to all of a sudden a flood of text and henry and with you know is that are crying. It's and i said no. Don't tell me this. I mean i just absolutely worn out from his ninth person in a year. And within the year's time. And don sutton. And then los sorta donna used to hang out with embalm springs. And then i thought man this is just getting too much and then and i just sent a picture to fritzy and i opie can pull it up. It's hang sliding into me and it's hanging on my wall here in my office and henry sick. Henry writes on to john a wish to hell. You'd stay out of my way. We're you behind the plate. When hank it seven fourteen off jack billingham. Yeah jacksonville says i call. What did you call fastball. Build a breaking ball breaking ball. And i was standing on home plate when i shook hands to but i dan when i when i broke in And i'm catching and henry would come up and you know i take all these police back down. Put his helmet on over salt cap and he would say john how you doing and nobody ever knew that from the very beginning. I don't think there was a game that when lead author or when he first time at bat that he didn't say hello. And i mean it was such a reward just to be with the man and to be at the hall of fame with him and his gentleness his class at the gold glove awards. I mean just anywhere you with hank and We were trying to put together a zoom call. Just recently and it hasn't happened. And i'm i'm so sad and disappointed i mean you can't you know you can't masur the what we've lost baseball this year but he was just you know like i heard you talking about the flip of the wrist and everything else and of course. Steve filled out on his forearms. Looked like my ties. I mean they were. You know you wondering how the wrist most forearms and everything else and it all his front foot and just flicked it. And i mean it was and seven hundred fifty five home runs. If you take those away still have three thousand hits. Yeah i mean this but you know what he was a great base stealer. He was a great defender and he was just a better better. Man had a better person. I mean i'm just so sad and Golly it's just and we can't do you know to say for him and what he did for baseball and what. He meant the baseball what he meant to everybody he played with. I can tell you to a man all those mall those players were just adulation and and respect and i don't think leadbetter legacy than than for us to talk about him and this kind of matter and say what i. What are you just a gentle person. And what a wonderful person and the all time home run king to most people. Yeah i wondered about that johnny. Do think The hall of famers view. Hank as the all time home run king. Yeah yeah i. I think it's just out of respect and everything else i think where everybody's always always looking at the you know the pd's and story started with your and whatever it how much difference it would've made and and you know and It i i you know. It's sort of but there. There's there's so many there's a few people in your life that when you walk in to the hall of fame and you walk in or near where you walk into the hotel and you know first time was ted williams and was there was campanella. Here's duke snider and you know. Here's all these guys. And and there's henry and willie and i mean it was just it just gave credence that gave validity to being in the hall of fame i. I don't know that we will ever. You know none of us will ever have that stature. I think because it to me it will always be. That's what the hall of fame is. It's those people. It's you know what we dreamed of all our lives and meeting in the rocks out of the driveway and hitting playing homerun derby at the park. And you know and you know the thing is if you think about it then. I don't know that there's anybody that's ever emulated hitting thank god. Because i don't think it's i don't think you can. I don't think you can copy or emulate or perfect those things. He was one of the nine as a as a baseball player. And he was one of the kind of person and My whole being said. Yeah we lost tom. Seaver we slough bronc. We lost joe morgan. Bob gibson don sutton now. Hank aaron negro negro i. I talked to him. He was on talked about once a week and a. I don't know if. I tell you a story about sparky calling me into the office monday. And and he saddam. We've got a chance to treat for negro. What do you think. And i said you'd better treat for his catch and he always loved at nuxie was i said you know he called me and i see the tell me a joke are talk to you and of course that was the one thing lasorda's just the wizard on my baseball bunch and I gotta put in bubble. Wrap all right. I gotta make sure nothing happens to you. I'm you know and all of a sudden we start feeling so vulnerable. I mean it's like. I mean all of us i guess i think that were there and that in talked to raleigh. Talk to wade boggs. I talked to to Brett and talk to robin the outfielder day. And you know you just want call and know say say just thinking about that zoom call get on that zoom call with these guys who were still alive johnny near doing. Make sure you do it. Hey pam thank. Thank you buddy i appreciate. It's johnny bench. And i appreciate him coming on. I could hear his voice but he also wants to make sure that people remember these people you know. And that's that. I appreciate that with john. Yes it's tough you know. I've been in this business so long that i see the starts of careers the end of careers i see careers and then the careers of children of these stars. I mean i was there for kobe's draft. I was there when len bias got drafted. I was there for the elway marino. Draft like i am and then you see these and now you see that their kids are playing and i've been very fortunate but The older i get the more. I'm going to go through this with all of these. All of these legends sign for eighty six. Now i'd sign up for that. But i just hope he. He had a good life what he considered a good life. Because i think he was private. I don't think he ever told you. Maybe what was really going on. But i just got a glimpse when i saw those letters that people wrote and the things they said about. I you might say that about somebody. But you can't say that about hank aaron. He'd just can't mean it was just horrible. See some of those letters and the fact that they had snipers on the top of fulton county stadium. The night that hank. Aaron broke babe. Ruth's record. they were worried that somebody was going to try to assassinate. They were gonna try to kill anchor because he had gotten letters. Death round and you had snipers up on the top fulton county stadium and then when you had those two idiots who went onto the field after hank hit the home run and he's rounding second base. These two guys came up to hank how they did not get shot is remarkable because these are snipers and they see two guys running out there and they don't know in hank as much classes he had. He brushed them aside. They ruined his moment but he still was was able to round third go home in then they celebrated a little bit but if you missed it last april in fact it was april fourth nineteen seventy four when he When he set the record and we wanted to have him on for the anniversary of seven. Fifteen and i'm just so happy that we called him. There's a lot of times. I don't wanna call jerry west bothering him now. Maybe there's certain players that are former players. Just malone and paulie goes no you love hank aaron i do but i want to bother him and i think he was happy we called. I'm going to take that feeling away from it but you'll hear that coming up next we'll take a break here. Eighteen after the hour. This is the dan patrick show. You heard me talk about bill. Barr and got a new shipment here so many good mood. I got a shipment ready for this weekend. There's eighteen flavors there. You're going to notice a couple of things you're gonna go. 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She'll have the quarter pounder with cheese. Extra muster nikola handle have a ten piece chicken mcnuggets into sides of ranch please. The we've done this before meal. Get it at mcdonald's when he get to of your face for two six bucks limited time. Only prices in participation may vary single item at regular price. Make sure you sign up for the dp show. Newsletter available every day monday through friday at six eastern three pacific to sign up. Go to dan. Patrick dot com. Enter your email address in the box out the bottom right hand corner and mary a will make sure you get the wrap-up of every show on monday through friday here on the dan. Patrick show if you're just joining us hank aaron. His passed away at the age of eighty. Six chuck in virginia joins us. We will bring back and interview that. I did april eighth of twenty twenty with hank the last time we had him on the program. Hey chuck hey dan. How are you doing great A little sad man first time longtime thanks five six a hard one forty five how. I became braves fan. Hey first grade. Was that the game. So i seven hundred home run Play t-ball with phil negros on philip and great story for you about fulton county taking my kid back there years ago. I know you've seen since the when they flatten fulton county stadium and they still have. The section of the fence were hang is Seven fifteen was still. It's still erected you know out in the parking lot. So i've got my son there about eight years old. We're going up next to the fence. The big scientists seven fifteen and his mom's taking the picture and my phone looks up and says what is this. I said son. This is where hank aaron hit his seven hundred fifteenth home run and he looks at turner field and the dixon's about four hundred yards away all the way out. That's a good story. Thank you chuck. That's a good story. You know you you start thinking about this when when you first time you see somebody or the first time have an impact on you and we've all had this happen to us when depending on how old you are. You'll see somebody or you get to go to a game. You get an autograph. You get a baseball card. A poster that all of those things kind of factor in on know who these people are. And i had not met hank aaron until he was done playing baseball. I think but for some reason. And i don't know why it might have been because the braves were always on. I remember that they had you know. David johnson. The former manager darrell evans. I think they had three guys who hit forty home runs or more one year. Ralph garr led off for them. You know they're just. I don't know why. I became so familiar with the braves. Maybe because of the time that they played against the cincinnati reds. But let me take you back to april eighth of twenty twenty. This would have been the forty six. Th anniversary of the hank seven hundred fifteenth. home run that made him the all time home. Run king and i started out the interview by asking. Hank how are you. I'm dan how are you. I'm doing okay. I i actually went back. And listen to vin. Scully's call of the homerun. When's the last time that you sat down and watched that all my goodness been time. It's been a while it has been a long time then. I haven't i haven't watched that. What what do you remember about that night like. Is there something that never came out or something that just special for you. Something before the game after the game that happen that i remember most about that night was my mother. She was she she. She seemed so enthuse she was so happy. And and when. I hit the home run and get around the basis to home plate She grabbed me. And i had never been before in my life. I did notice that that she was holding on. For dear life to your. She just didn't want to let you go. No she didn't she. She was quite happy. I was and i was thrilled. What did you keep from that night. i think i remember that i remember most was the fact that What did you keep your uniform. Did you keep the bad. Did you like what what memorabilia did you keep. From that night i don. I don't think anything is that concern. Oh i don't think. I don't think i kept anything. I think i went home Dan i think i went home. My wife and i both and we prayed and and and I got forgiveness and thanked him for everything that he had done for me. And and and that's the thing i remember most did you thank him for that. Pitch that al through to you. There was an strikes bill. A lot of people talk about good pitch but that was you don he. He was quite a pitcher. He wanted twenty games before. Yeah yeah you know. He's interested in the yankees and He he was quite a pitcher. And i had never had good luck against him and for some reason it was the night that Come calling and i hit two home. Run off and you homered in cincinnati of jack billingham and then i think that bowie. Kuhn the commissioner. Want you to wait to go to atlanta or you wanted to wait to go to atlanta to try to set the record. There he made you play that maybe the next day in cincinnati that sound right yes he wanted me. He wanted me to play the next day. Yes he won't admit it into instead he. I open the season if i hit two home. Run and then. I wanted to wait and do the rest of it in milwaukee and orlando here and he said no he said you by record. You played every other than that. You should play the today. How different would your career ben. If you played a bigger market. I think it would have been a lot different. But i don't know. I kind of a small market got like you were in milwaukee and atlanta if i swapped you and willie mays or you and mickey mantle. What your personality would you done. Okay in new york as opposed to atlanta milwaukee. I gotta gotta loan at first of very well. I don't know that i would have I would have been the same type of ballplayers that i was That was in milwaukee. Milwaukee was was made for me. I i loved milwaukee I was a country. Boy milwaukee was a country city. And i just love being in milwaukee. What are the sports. Did you play grown-up i played. I played a little basketball no. I'm sorry i'm sorry not basketball. Take it back looking at basketball. I played a little symbol. Play a little football but other than that dan. I didn't play any other sport. I played baseball. I was strictly a baseball player. I played baseball from from eight years old until i got to be twelve or thirteen. How good to running. You're running back. I can run. I can run through. Well i i didn't i didn't have the lose their feet like some of these wide receiver as a running back to add but i could. I could i could make i can make. Hey you can make. Things could do things that i wanted to do. But i also think. How much was the most. You weighed one eighty. Maybe we wait the most one eighty well. That was it that i never weighed more than one eighty. I always black. If i got a hundred eighty five hundred ninety pounds. I was overweight. But you had those quick risks like mike schmidt and you were the two guys i just remember. It was a flick of the wrist. Because you weren't a big guy. Think your lower body was a little bigger. But how do you explain. All of those home runs with not being a big guy. I did motion david. My wrist For some reason. I don't know why but i i I strongly hands. And i. And i did everything my risk. You did quite well forty-six years ago tonight. We hit home. Run number seven. Fifteen or talking to hank aaron. You know we've talked about this before you were kind enough to share your feelings going into this that you got letters horrible letters. People didn't want black men breaking babe. Ruth's all time home run record and here you are in the south you hit the home run and then you have these two fans who run on the field as you're rounding second what we think that. Yes these two kids reynolds. He'll and actually they meant nothing they they didn't mean to me They had fit before the game. Started that If i had a home run time presented itself that they were going to run on feel and make themselves presentable. It looked like they were trying to take off your batting helmet. Well yeah. I don't know you know and one of them come out to be adopted and can be pretty good man. I cried that night when you homer i was watching in cincinnati and of course. I'm a big red machine guy. But i had your poster up on the wall and i just i still have that that i think it was mcgregor. That had the poster with every one of the names of the pictures that you hit home runs ofo leading up to seven fifteen. Do you remember that poster. I don't remember that. Yeah yup i should send it to you. I wish you would do. You collect memorabilia. At all if i go into a little bit. I don't i imitate everything. Have that everything. Everything worrying watches anything that i have. I've given to cooperstown. I'll give everything. I ever had cooperstown i. I don't know anything and somebody. Well well. why did you. Why did you do it. Well i said it belongs to cooper sound. I played baseball before. People are for lots and lots and lots of people and i belong. put them enjoy. They want to go to cooper sound. Look at it. That's what they need to do. And i also thought at the time when bonds broke your record. It was unfair to bring you into that. I always felt bad about that. I don't know how you felt but it was like who do you think is the all time home run champ like i. I always view jew is the all time home run champ. He had more home runs year the all time home run champ. That's the way. I always answered it but what thanks. Did you feel uncomfortable when you were asked about that with you. Were brought in to somehow explain. Barry bonds i. It felt like you know they were unfair. Insane let me bring you in like in. What do you think of bonds break in your record and like they were bringing you into a controversy. There weren't they they they they would they would. And and and the only way that i could get out of it was the fact that make a statement and get it out of the way in. Yeah yeah well. It's great to have you been doing. I'm doing okay. I'm telling you know i've been. I've been watching you show you. You're doing a magnificent job. Well i'm during the commercial break here. I'm going to go back. And if i can get a camera. Man i'm gonna show that poster to you. And i i mean it. I'd love to send it to you if but it's you and it's macgregor sporting goods and it's got all your your home runs that you hit. Do you remember that. I one i do. What did you hit it. Off of big rasha. Okay what did he throw you. Re-grand should i love you your treasure and i hope we get many more anniversaries to talk about this. But thank you again. I know you're probably being inundated with people wanting to talk to you on this anniversary and thank you always have a place in my heart. Thank you very much. Dan and good luck to you and may god bless shit that was from april. Eight th the twenty twenty. I'm i'm glad we brought that back. I you know just hearing his laugh at the very end what did he. What did he throw a vic crashing. Nothing at rest in peace and take a break. We'll be back after this. Thanks for listening to the patrick show. Podcast be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine pacific on fox sports radio and you can find us on the iheartradio app at fsr or stream. It live on the peacock out. Who is david bowie in. Well it depends on who you ask. Or which record you play to some. He's ziggy stardust. To others thin. Why do more major tom are. But who is david bowie really to answer that question. We'll have to go off the record. My name is jordan. Run talk and i'm the host of off record. A new music bowed or if he podcast from iheart radio off the record goes beyond the songs into the hearts and minds of rock's greatest legends every season profiles one classic artists taking listeners. On a wild ride through their extraordinary career. The verse season examines the light or rather lives of david bowie. Each episode of the eleventh heart audio events tells the story of one of his conduct. Personas together these spaces foreman portrait of one of the twentieth century's most influential figures. So who was david bowie tune into off the record to find out listening. Follow on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at least almost every friday we do a dedication ended the show tribute assing of hank. Aaron don sutton also the former packer. Gm ted thompson all in the span of forty eight hours still no update on patrick mahomes. But i'm assuming he'll be out of concussion protocol considering he probably didn't have a concussion but went through the protocol and we'll probably get that news here coming up shortly. Vegas is assuming. Patrick mahomes is gonna play this weekend. The betting line has anything changed in these two games falling. No not really. Kansas city is still favored by three points. And that's what it would be favored by if mahomes healthy. They've never really taken that game off the board because a mom status the green packers are now three and a half point favorites. Okay kansas city. Do they normally cover. Buffalo seems to cover. I'm pretty sure the chiefs are on a non covering run especially the second half of the season. They've they've won a lot of games by six points or fewer. I mentioned there's such a fine line in these games that it could be one play could be one person. It could be somebody or something you never expected but you have this fine line of brady's nine super bowl appearances which he won. Six eight of the nine were one score games in the other. One was tied midway through the fourth quarter. Patrick mahomes three postseason wins last year. The chiefs were down by double figures in all three games. It takes a moment. It takes a a defensive lapse. You saw that with the niners where they forgot where tyreek hill was. But you have this situation where jimmy garoppolo completed pass and you win the super bowl second and five. They don't run. They pass chris. Jones knocks down a pass. These small things or we would be talking about jimmy garoppolo differently than we do now and we wouldn't be looking at patrick mahomes the same way because he did not play well in that super bowl mccloughan. What about the bad calls to the new orleans. Miss pass interference. Brian catch up to mind. There's so many moments where we tend to look at. Somebody's legacy and you go. He won this or he didn't win this and then when you realize when you look at it closer maybe there is just one play and here you have. The point spreads are field goals in these games. So you can imagine. There is going to be a moment. That is going to decide this. And it may not be with your store quarterbacks polling but is it fair to say that nobody has more to gain this weekend than he has early in his career super bowl he gets on now he puts brett farve in his rear view mirror as far as packer. Great and now you're talking about the all time great list eras entrenched separates himself from brett farve within the franchise. But you separate yourself you at least put yourself on the level ben roethlisberger eli manning as far as the number super bowls. He's better than those two quarterbacks. But if josh allen would win like you want wanna talk about that changes everybody's perception of you. That's where you go. Oh my gosh. Josh allen has truly arrived. I think people are still a little apprehensive about jumping on that in saying he's absolutely positively going to be great. He's show these glimpses but the improvement that he made. Which is what you wanna see. Years one to two or two to three. You want to see if they make that jump. In josh allen became a formidable force to deal with as far as quarterbacks go and game plan for him that ability. To the thing that i would look for in. The game is josh allens running. How much does he run. How much willie run. Can patrick mahomes run. But if i'm josh allen. And i don't have a running game. I have to be the running game because that to me could be the difference in the game. Yeah polling josh allen last year in sixteen games with fifty eight percent passer through for only thousand yards. That's not nothing but for a quarterback starting three thousand sixteen games it is. He had twenty touchdowns in nine picks. He opted to sixty nine percent passing. Forty five hundred yards thirty seven touchdowns same monarchs. Nfl nounce that this super bowl in tampa will host twenty two thousand fan seventy five hundred of which will be vaccinated healthcare workers being given free tickets to the game smart. Move by the by the nfl. There were so many other things. I wanted to get to then. We got the news little more than an hour ago that hank aaron had passed away. There was an awkward exchange between shaquille o'neal and donovan mitchell of the utah jazz. And this is what it sounded like. I don't know what shack was trying to do. But i don't think it was mission accomplished part of i. I said tonight that you are one of my favorite player. Virginia have what it takes to get to the next level senate on purpose on wanted you to hear. What are you have to say about that said. That's it i mean. I've been here ashleigh my rookie union. I'm going to get better mood. I do at the end. I wondered okay. He just finished a game. They played well throwing a headset. And then you listen to shack. Say you don't have what it takes gets an level just wanted you to know i like okay. You're forthright but like it. It's awkward where. Where did you think the interview is going to go from there. Now if you have those two sitting down in shock says hey. I've been tough on you. I wondered if you had what it takes to get to the next level. There's ambient noise in the background like it's just not you're not in the same room you're just listening to somebody say something to you in a shack and you're going are like i get it. I've been told this since my rookie year. Here i don't know came out of nowhere. Yeah paul mitchell's. Averaging twenty four points and five assists a game. He's twenty four years old things aren't going to and he was great in the bubble last year. You know those showdowns with denver he. He went toe to toe. I i don't know. I'd love to know what the conversation was prior to or when they talked about this you know during the hey donovan. Mitchell wins Utah wins. We're gonna donovan mitchell on you guys. Got your questions ready. I don't know of anybody said. Hey what are your questions. Just you have questioned club. It sounds like a question for former number one overall pick. Nobody expected donham like he's twenty. Four like no. it's like. Oh my god. I can't believe donovan. Mitchell heads a one entitled the expectation level is not you know in the stratosphere here unless shack was somehow concerned that it would be awkward if it's somehow got back the donovan mitchell and mitchell portal. I that i heard what you said about me. Let me put it out there and take ownership of it before it gets awkward that he asks me about it. Well i think you can. You can do it but do it. In a more sensitive way. I said to people. Hey i don't know if you've heard this. But i did say this about you. I wanted to be up front with you but it almost felt like. Hey you know decent game. But you don't have what it takes to get to the next level now. I mean i'm on the receiving end of that i just got. I just had a good game. So he said hey. Tnt guys wanna talk to you. Put on a headset on a truck. I don't think you ever takes get the next level. Just let you all right. It doesn't really come across in a like mentor. ship kind of way you know like hey. I'm just trying to help you and give you a little motivation. Maybe that's shack was meaning but it really doesn't come across that way. It felt more like. Wow i dude being such a juror i yes. We could have been cute and side effects or to support shack not to let you down at the guy to pretty good game tonight. At least know if donovan says so what is it. That i'm lacking or what am i missing. But that's on donovan mitchell to salvage the interview and i wouldn't. That's not fair to him. Yeah oh what about a smart asset shack. Let me hit you up later. Some for some free throw tips Awesome this sports history. Paulie and this day in sports history. Nineteen ninety eight minnesota. Nhl franchise nickname the wild. A lot of people still like the north stars. They great uniforms. This is the big one. Two thousand six kobe. Bryant of the lakers scored eighty one points against a toronto raptors second highest total in nba history. I feel bad for jalen rose. Today he was trending a little while ago because people are asking them about it. Yes and jalen goes. I didn't guarding the whole time. Nobody did apparently yes time. Do we still have proof of this will chamberlain hundred got that famous picture. But i'm sure there's doubters that we don't have video of him scoring all those. Let's go around the room what we learned on the program. Todd i'll start with you the back road being a lot more trouble than the front row. If there was a zombie invasion mclovin. What did you learn today's program. I learned how you judge the success of an adult dancer. Historical fact how you doing now is an tactics at the size of their garter belts understand said if it looks like an afro. Then you know that they've done a good job on the dance floor cool thing tag team segment of the year so far i'm just calling it the year segment of the year. It's early bali errands first career home. Run off vic rashy nothing ball. What did i learn todd for all of us. There's a giant hole in our baseball hearts with the passing of number forty four guys to supplement. I take every day as m dry powerful ingredients bank by help. You get energized stronger. Leaner go to drive. Dan dot com today free shipping sixty day. Money back guarantee. Don't age beach. Refined your prime with them. Dr thanks for joining us. Thanks for the support and a great weekend safe weekend. We'll talk to you on monday. Seton paulie fritzy mclovin yours. Truly dan patrick show one more item as we close out the show. 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HR 3: Change of Heart

Mason & Ireland

1:02:10 hr | 4 months ago

HR 3: Change of Heart

"I thank you very much for listening. Thank you very much for being out there. We absolutely appreciate you and would not be allowed to do what. We're doing this stupid job if it weren't for you guys so John i you know. The town's weird right now. And i don't wanna go get my haircut and i. It's a frigging mess at this point. I actually sort of got a pair of scissors and cut some of my hair. Which i heard it. Fuck out your own hair. It's a sign of mental illness. But i got some scissors and cut the part that was bothering me. So george clooney announced. I think it was like a month ago. He said that his entire career his whole life. He has been cutting his hair with a flabby. And you know what i think. It is time. I'm going to order a flow. Be from amazon. And i'm going to begin cutting my own year. What do you think. I love this idea. I support it wholeheartedly at its update us with regular pictures of flow be haircut. I think you should live stream the flow be haircut streaming. You love that type of crap. You know what that's a good idea. i'll do it on. I g live came as maybe you can get flabby themselves to sponsor it. Wouldn't that be great. Yeah yeah i i'm going to do. I'm just. I'm sick of it man. I'm sick of this frigging heritage to frigging long. And i don't feel comfortable. I don't i don't have my haircut guy open rate it. I'm not going to braid it. Thank you though for this suggestion. Hey wanted to mention one thing. Great movie that everybody should check out. It is called sound of metal and it's on prime. It starts rizza med john. Gino -rism ed. No he is incredible. He was in that mini series. The night of. I'm not sure if you saw that or not. But he's amazing and he plays a heavy metal drummer who actually goes deaf loses hearing and he has to adjust to being deaf in. It's just a fantastic movie. It is flat out. I talk about movies a lot on the show. It is flat out my favorite movie of the year It is on to call again prime. It's called sound of metal. okay. And it's it's fantastic. And i just interviewed the director for the culture podcast. You can check that out at steve. Mason dot com. But the most important thing is go. Watch the movie because it is frigging awesome all right. So kyrie irving had his first press conference since his absence from the brooklyn nets and one of the things by the way that came out. Is that at some point during this absence. Bought george floyd family. A new house didn't seek praise for it. Stephen jackson actually revealed because he was friends with george. Floyd revealed that kyrie bought a house. For george floyd family which is interesting unbelievably generous and shows that he's got an incredible social consciousness and held a press conference. Today i get get a couple of these things out of the way first of all number three. He's excited to play with james harden and he fits into their plan. I guess that it's just really exciting. You know just to be able to play with great players that have just been here in the league for a while who've been through ups and downs the peaks and valleys so james is is aligned with with us in terms of just experienced a lock on. This is going to be great. I remember at one point. He was seen at his sister's birthday party and he was asked about his communications with the team. In what he can say about. The health and safety protocols. I'm going to be back. That'd be around these guys address. The team addressed everybody that needs to be addressed now move. Aw circling back on the health and safety front back. Yeah no answer on that one here. He is on his commitment to basketball. And if it's changed in the past few years there's a separation between what's going on here you know when i'm playing professionally and what's going on in the world and if you don't create the distinction then it's easy to fill the weight of the world on. Why are you going out there and playing so you know. I'd be lying sitting here insane. I don't feel what's going on in the world and nor am i paying attention to it. you know i just have a huge responsibility feel to continue to serve my community and underserved and you know when i'm out here playing. It's continuing to leave knowledge with these guys in and commit to something like always say bigger than ourselves. You know this. This team environment here Just in basketball. In general it take sacrifice and compromise. You know we gotta come to an agreement and just stand balance throughout this long journey. So that's all that's all. I'm trying to such an unusual cat. Isn't he lindsay. Were saying off the air that you now think differently about him. Why okay so let me let me play a couple of things. First of all he. He talked about his commitment to basketball. Here he is. What do you want people to take away from this his message number ten number ten as you can see You know there's a deeper level emotions that i have for helping and serving people around the world and i've done it since i was a kid. I'll continue on way after basketball. Basketball is given enough perspective and attention on some of the things. I've been into and now that my life has changed you know would that change comes accepting that they're older of me that i didn't necessarily like or things that i would like to do. Different or conversations. I would like to have with different people to address men command or woman talk or just honest talk And we all deserve that and you know. There's nothing normal about this life that i live. You know just is just something. I've come to accept and embrace says. Let me use this as a tool to be able to change things that i want to see in the world and i have to be honest with myself about how much energy i give that in. How many others. I'm actually impacting. So when are remove myself from something you can definitely feel the weight and the absence definitely means something. And i'm aware of that. Like i said i take full accountability and to those who are leading with me and also following along sidewalks in all inside me. We're going to get through this. So he's really continuing the conversation about social justice and he said in that something. I think is really interesting. There are earlier versions of myself. That i don't like it feels to me like he's turning some page like this is going to be a different version of kyri. Because he didn't like the previous versions. Does that make sense. It does lindsay. Why do you feel differently about him after hearing this stuff. Because i feel like he's he's acknowledging he's made some mistakes and that some of his beliefs and things that he's said and done in the past May may have been. I guess selfish. And now he's looking more to like you said service community and make a difference in the world and i think to me it. Sounds like he's somebody who is torn between Similarly to win there was the protest on whether or not they were gonna play the game in the bubble after the jacob blake shooting. It seems to me like he's kind of like torn as to what he can do. And what his voice platform can do as an nba player. And what what playing the effect is just going on as if the stuff isn't in the world I feel like he's he's just like at a trying to figure out what's best for him. So i feel like he's just torn. It's hard to deny that his heart is clearly in the right place. He may not be accomplishing what he needs to accomplish on the basketball floor. But he's thinking about bigger and broader things and this is why i think sort of the. The mental health at one point talks about his mental health. And i just think he's. He's a little bit overwhelmed by this life. And it's a little like what we talked about with. Ben affleck yesterday. Right and athletic is not comfortable with being famous everywhere. He goes people knowing who he is in. The case of kyri feels like the same. He wants to be about the basketball more than he wanted to be about the life his life he wants to devote to important issues regarding social justice. I just this shifts. My view of kyrie irving a lot all right. Does it affect your. You think that the basketball won't work because you think there's only one ball and three of these. Are mimi guys. After hearing kyrie desert. Convince you. That what i've been telling you that they're gonna share the ball and they're going to figure out a way to work together or do those two things that connect. Yeah they'll things. I guess compartmentalized for you. Here's why don't think it were again. I'm open to the idea that it works. And so far wearing a honeymoon period and kyrie is not out there and it looks really good for the brooklyn nets. But you've got all those there among the top six in usa drink. They are among the top six in the amount of time. They handled the ball. James harden's averages like eight point one seconds. He's got the ball news hands. You know. I think that there is going to be a huge adjustment. That comes with this team and i don't know that it's going to work. I don't know that there is a way for these. Three guys with enormous egos three guys who deserve it by the way they are hardening and durant two of the five best players in the game. Kyrie's probably in that five to ten range. Where would you put kyrie. Probably right around ten. He's test one on one player's ever see got three five and ten nine durant could be. Yeah yeah he's he's top three for sure and hard to say is probably five. Maybe six or seven. I think you'd probably have three six and eleven. Yeah i mean the question is can. They share the ball. The question is can steve. Nash harness that. I watched him legler today on. Espn and he was saying he thinks it's going to be a difficult adjustment once once kyri ends up on the floor and who kyrie is on. The floor is different from who he is as a person. I now think that. I appreciate what cairo has been trying to do. Disappearing from your job. All the sudden is not okay. There's one other thing. I want play and sort of dispute him on. I'm going to go to cut number eight here or hey for nets fans who live and die with the team. Can you explain to them why you missed this time. Well beautiful thing about the are started off as a phonetic. And i started off as a fan. I've been invested in this organization. Since i was a kid. You know also now that. I'm in this role as a player. There's quite a difference and you know the fans out there. One apologized them as well. You know my commitment has always been to bring something special to brooklyn was just a championship. It was unity. Equality just bigger things than just the game itself you know. It took quite a while and quite a few valleys to get back home. Initially you know So for me. i'm just taking every day. You know just being grateful for the casual or the fanatic. You know i. It's it's part of our culture and you know i'm back. I'm happy to be back. We got some great pieces and we just move on. And i let my actions my games before so it's like doing you know just needed a boss. Now you play the game for the fans. I actually think you do. Oh the fans an explanation. And i think it was there do you know. And that's the question. I mean lindsay. You're a good person to run the spy. Because that's always been the thing with kyrie is he's not always can do what his motives are in other words. I think he's he's a likable guy. But you always think like he could fly off the ranch at any second and because he's not always forthcoming people assume the worst right. I don't know i. I mean when he played for the cavs like big ben. Simmons said on friday he went into you know before game. Seven of the finals like pretty much the entire twenty sixteen nba finals. There are stretches of weeks at a time where it wasn't talking his teammates but he still you know showed up for every game and played his butt off and hit the game winning shot like they call it the shot in cleveland and he'll always be loved and appreciated in cleveland for that so i feel like when he was playing for the cavs. I don't think he owed the fans any type of explanation for anything because he always showed up on the court. I don't know what it feels like to be a nets fan to have to wonder. If you know your number two players going to show up for a couple of weeks at a time yeah. I think it's going to be a fascinating experiment to put these three guys on the floor at the same time and i think hardiman durant at least you know in these first. Two games demonstrated that they coexist perfectly that their games can complement each other. They both have had really really big games. And they've won both of those games including a win over milwaukee last night which was a fantastic game by the way i thought that was. I mean there are ten lead changes in the fourth quarter. That's a great matchup and that may be a preview of the eastern conference finals. Potentially john. I think that it would be awesome. I think it would be seven games and battling it down to the end and that game last night probably should on overtime had middleton notice that. Yana was flying down the middle of the lane open. He probably would have dunked in overtime. My point mesa. If they get kyrie to add to hardin durant kyrie didn't play last night That's nets and five. yes see. i just don't know what that looks like. I need to see it. And i and i don't know that those three guys can coexist on the floor at the same time by the way one of the things they can do is to have two guys two of those guys on the floor at the same time on the time and try to stagger their minutes. So you don't have already you you start all three. But then you stagger their minutes and all three aren't on the floor at the same time for a whole bunch of the game. Two of the three are. Does that make sense. Frank vogel sing with lebron ad. He's got to do it with two of them. But i mean if you have three of them. It's even better. Yeah all right coming up next for you. Jayson stark first of all a nugget about the dodgers and justin turner. That just came across from peter. Gammons we get that coming up for you. Plus an interesting take on how to institute the universal d. h. It's a good idea from jayson stark. We'll get into that coming up next for you. Mesa in ireland seven ten. Espn hey what's going on. Forget every day at two o'clock this week. The back-to-back lakers phrase. That pays somebody. Somebody is going to win a thousand dollars this week in all kinds of good prices along the way so tomorrow at two o'clock make sure here for the lakers. Back to back phrase that pays i. We got a piece of information. Just in from josina anderson according to sir sources the next defensive coordinator of the los angeles rams will be rehim morris team rates. That's great how that's a great get. Yup it is a former head coach. Yeah it's not done yet. But joe anderson says it's expected to happen. Morris was atlanta's interim coach for the final eleven games the season. After dan quinn was fired he went four. And seven down the stretch But the defense played really really well. He was head coach to the buccaneers. He's had head coaching experience. He's a defensive minded guy. Hey lindsay get a hit on the list with the rams they hire him to get him on the show he's really sharp and and i've heard him interviewed before and i'd love to talk to him. See if we can get that. Make that happen. Yeah once once. It's fish once it's official. Yeah i'm told romi. Morris will be the next defense coordinator parameter source. That's what joe zena anderson tweets on top of that. There's been a lot of conversation about justin turner whether or not he will return to the dodgers. Also they've expressed interest in marcus simeon. Who's kind of ober utility guy. Peter gammons says a baseball man. That's what he says. Bb bomb be ball men. He bowman he says asked about the team. Signing markets semi and he replied. The dodgers are going to sign. Simeon and justin turner. So it sounds like there's a shot at both of those guys will wind up on the roster kiernan dez unlikely to return. He's been talking with the red sox. So marcus simian would be a guy who would slide into that sort of buber utility physician for the dodgers. He can play second. Can play. Thirty compla- outfield so movement there for the dodgers as well so where are we the d. h. idea. John you brought this to our attention. Jayson stark wrote a really interesting column. There were on the verge of having a universal d. h. it's being discussed now ownership and the mlb players association but stark has an interesting twist on it. And so you. I thought you would kind of hate this idea really. Basically i like it a lot because you're kind of resistant to changing baseball rules. So it's okay go ahead. Basically what the rule would be is if you take your starting pitcher out you lose your d. h. Two so that would mean you have to really think hard about whether or not to take out your starting pitcher right and because now the one way you could keep your d. h. Is that you could put them in the field. Okay but if you don't put him in the field. The pitcher now hits in that spot as soon as you take now. This is assuming that we have a universal d. h. I think it would add a ton of strategy. What do you think i think it would add. A ton of strategy means that even american league teams who have always had the d. h. Would have to think about how long they keep their starting pitchers in because once they take the starter out. Tampa pulls out blake snell after six innings every game tampa has got to think. Now i mean we're going to lose our d. h. If we pull blake snell select push him to the seventh. Let's get them into. The eighth may be so we keep that d. h. No it means there would be additional strategy in the game and would put value on starting pitchers going longer. And the thing i like. The most dramatic goes faster right and thing like the most about it is it gets rid of the opener which i've never really been a big fan of the guy who pitches three innings because there are being three batters because if a guy starts the game and only pitches one inning and if you take him out you lose your best bats for the rest of the game yes. I think it's a great idea. When's what do you think. I'm not so much in the fan of it because i feel like the whole idea of the universal d. h. is to remove all of that strategy. And whatever you know. I i don't know i think they're. They're trying to obviously up the value of the d. h. So i feel like that kind of brings it back down again if you do that but wait a minute. It's the you don't think that it would be good because it would be put more emphasis on starting pitching well. I just don't think that that they would agree to it. Because i feel like nowadays most most pitchers they don't have most pitchers go more than what like six or seven innings anyway and i think that so many teams have been trained to do this. The matchups and you know have the starters and like the specialized pitching. I don't know. I just feel like no. I don't think that the players association would go for it all right. So here's their like bud black. Who is in the story. The manager of the rockies idea thinks it would add new strategy but jayson stark brought it up to one american league for an office exac yum. And here's what he said. He said i hate this idea so much because it's loaded with unintended and intended consequences infected as the largest range of bad unintended consequences of any rule. Throw out there. He said that any. I wanna try and this bit. He said that if you for example you want to see the hit he uses as he says it's a ticket to more blowouts. So here's here's a scenario. Your team is down four to nothing in the third inning. Your back of the rotation starter is closing in on eighty pitches and then he walks the leadoff hitter right. Want to get him out of the game. But now you have to play the rest of that game when you're losing the worst lineup or one less hitter. So the other team has one additional batter in the lineup. You have your pitcher hitting and we're trying to come from behind. He said or suppose the next he had nelson cruz and his lineup. And now his team is trailing by two runs in the six and the pitcher gets into trouble and cruises to up in the next inning right. So what do you do. Do you take that pitcher out of the game and deprived people of their chance to see nelson cruz. What i would do that. Put nelson cruz in the outfield in the outfield. Yeah keep him in the lineup. But you give up your d. h. Spot now. I think it's i think it's an interesting wrinkle now. I think it's really going to happen. Is that the baseball players association and the owners are going to agree to just flat out straight up. Universal d. h. Flat out straight up. Why don't you think it's going to be a flat out straight up. And by the way i hope. They put the runner on second in the tenth inning. I hope to go to seven inning doubleheaders. I'd like to some of those rules. Last some of those things were interesting putting a runner on second base. I didn't think i would like it as much as i do. Yeah no it actually makes it really dramatic makes it really dramatic. Yeah i'm in favor of keeping that. I never thought i would be but i actually think it works. Actually think it works. Hey by the owner to sneak this in here. Don sutton passed away today. Five years old. You know this is pretty amazing. Think about the dodgers great pitchers in dodger history whether sandy koufax orel hershiser don drysdale. Don sutton ranks first in starts. I in wins i in shutouts and first in strikeouts in the dodger record books i wouldn't have guessed he was number one. In any of those things starts wins shutouts and strikeouts. I would've thought colfax shutouts for sure. I strikeouts would be kershaw. I thought starts would probably be kershaw right. And i thought wins would be drysdale sutton number one in all of them and he passed away today. Hail fellow well met health fellow. Well met god bless the perm the perm yes. A few guys who racked the permit his whole life. Yes he did. I coming up next for you. How you know if a girl is really just in it for the money. I've got a story about that and then we've got game of games mason and ireland seven ten. Espn today is national popcorn day. John and you know what. I miss. I normally i go to at least three and maybe four movies every weekend. I know you do or miss movie theater popcorn a couple of movies this weekend. I watched sound of metal which is great. It's on amazon prime. I watched one night in miami. Which is on amazon prime. Strongly recommend that one Incredible story malcolm x. muhammad ali. Jim brown and sam cooke getting together on the night that ali beat sonny liston in miami. It's an amazing story. So normally i would be in a theater. And i would eat the theater popcorn while i was watching the movie. I tried to recreate that experience. I made some. it's not the same air popped popcorn. Meet some air popped popcorn. Turn the lights down. Put the movie on in bed quiet setup and you know what no matter what you do. It is not the same experience as going to a movie theater. I'm not as engaged. The picture is smaller. The sound is less. I don't have that popcorn. I can think exactly where. I sit at the landmark when i go to see a movie and i saw miss that. That's one of the great things. I miss from this. Pandemic michael do the games without the fans. It's be the same until we get the fans back. I'm glad we have the games. I'm glad we're playing. The lakers are playing great but what everybody will tell you who is a allowed into staples center. Now is we gotta get the fans back. And i know every day. They're they're having meetings and conferences. You mentioned earlier that it could be this year later in the possible. Yeah it's possible all right so on the night of the nba draft christian would. Who's now with the houston rockets and actually has has played well. He rented an event space at caesar's palace. Any invited a few dozen family and friends. He was so excited because he was going to be. Drafted says former. Unlv coach dave rice but woods watched with horror as his name. Went uncalled in the first round. It wasn't called in the second round. Either and here's what's amazing that night christian woods girlfriend broke up with him after he wasn't drafted. Is that unbelievable so here. I have everybody over not drafted. I've got my girlfriend here. And she's all excited and then i don't get drafted and she just drops them cold on that night. What a miserable thing to do. How do you know somebody's only in it for the money. It's when you don't get drafted and the girl breaks up with you right away. And by the way he's now signed a three year forty one million dollar contract. I see i would argue that. This is a good thing for christian would sounds like yeah. Sounds like she was. I mean i hate to say it sounds like she was a gold digger right. It was kind of like you. Remember in jerry maguire. How kelly preston with him but only because he's a big time agent dan when he loses all his client. She's like not interested anymore and he ends up with renee zellweger. That was a good thing for jerry. Maguire right absolutely was. I think same thing with christian would yeah christian would got lucky by this girl Dropping them but it must have been a miserable. I didn't get drafted and my girlfriend just dumped me. That had to be a miserable night for christian. Would i think he's had the last laugh. I always wonder you know. So when you are rich in successful How do you know if she or in my case he is actually really into you or if they just are into the money that you've got you don't you don't know and i would say that in some cases it doesn't matter like jeff bezos isn't getting lauren sanchez. If he doesn't own amazon right is that true. Doesn't doesn't lauren sanchez. Love jeff bezos dearly. Or does she just love his bank account dearly. I think that his bank account as part of him right right but does that mean. She's in it for the money. That's a good question. I i look at when. I look at the crowded staple center when when there were crowds. You know year. Old man with twenty five year old girl. I think to myself niece. What do they have in common like what they talk about. You know. she's twenty five She's on instagram. And she's she's goofing around and she's out with the girls and she's part and then he is sixty. What do they actually have in common. And isn't she just with him because he's rich. Yeah but i mean. I think he knows that. And he's okay with it isn't he. Don't you wanna think your loved for you now. You know if i if i waited my the sixty three year old and equation. You're the sixty three year old and you're with a twenty five year old lover really. Yeah i mean. I'm not getting her without the money. Right yeah but that means that she doesn't really love you. I think that when you have money like that you have to know you either need to meet somebody. That has no clue that you have money. You are who you are and basically lied to them until you feel comfortable enough telling them the truth or something. You have to deal with all right. So i used to work with this really attractive anchorwoman. Yeah when i was working in san diego and she had a much much older boyfriend. And i got to be pretty good friends with her and so one day i said hey i got to tell you i don't get this. I said you could be with pretty much. Anybody you're looking you're on tv. You're smart you have your own money i go. What are you know what this guy. And she looked at me and she goes. I married for love the first time. It's just as easy to fall in love with the guy who has money than it is to fall in love with a guy who doesn't and i think that's how a lot of women think that it's part of the guy part of what they're falling for is the guy has is successful. He has ambition. Lindsay is kind of true. That part of what attracts you guys. To men is that embarrassing successful That's part of it. But i don't know. I guess it depends yet mesa. I think guys will go out with girls who are attractive. No matter what they do no matter what their occupation is or how much money they have. But it isn't always true in reverse women want somebody that is like not going to be sitting like lindsey said earlier not going to be sitting around all day getting hammered. You know right right. But i like just throw out an example. So david foster. God bless him his seventy one one of the great songwriters katharine mcphee is thirty five now. What what do they have in common. They both loved music. They both live music and he's a handsome man and david foster has like nine houses. He's not not not good looking but he's rich sure but i'm just saying that you you said a lot of these rich guys who are old and ugly. Or whatever. he's he doesn't fall into that category and he was going to be the name of our first racehorse pocket personality. That's a real thing. Yeah and the reason that we were going to name the horse that was. We met this woman at the track. Wants who is with a much older guy who wasn't attractive and one of said or what are you doing that guy. And she said he has pocket personality. Yeah which meant that. She was wanted to be taken care of in a certain way and he could do it. Well that story actually originated with bill. Maher when i was doing the snyder show a model came in and she. She had like marginal roles and tv shows and she she did the show with me as a guest and the breaks. Bill maher taped right across the hall from us enduring one of the break. She was talking about bill maher and she said the thing. I love about bill is. He's got pocket personality that seems sorta jaded and she said yeah. I'm just arm candy. I'm that sounds that. Sounds like there's nothing really. There's no love their right pocket personality and arm tandy. It sounds to me like both people know there are places right. I think both people know what the deal is. People know what the deal is totally fine but it's just it's it's weird to me. It's weird to me. I mean. I i met one when i was i mean i was. I was successful. But i wasn't necessarily at this level and i don't think it was. I don't think it was money. I don't think so. No it wasn't money this before or after you were the falconer at way before we've been together fifteen years. Yeah no. it was way before the falconer was not the tipping point for me although one of the highlights of my whole career all right coming up next for years. Games in is my game today and the month of january has become very competitive. I have one three times john. Ireland is one twice lindsay as one twice jorges has won once and michael has won twice. Yeah he's good at those. He is really good at game. So we'll play that game coming up next for you. I think everybody's got a fair shot at this one mason ireland seven ten espn. I it's time for game of games in. It is brought to you by power pro plumbing. They are affordable they are effective they are plumber and they wanna be yours too by the way i'm totally talking off the top of my head. We love them. They are out our plumber. They wanna be yours to call one eight hundred five eight four forty one sixteen or visit. Power pro dot com. There you go all right time for games. I got the game today and the game is called the birthday game. I am going to give you a fact about somebody celebrating their birthday in january. You tell me if it's real. Or if i actually just made it up all right so here is number one. The late verne troyer. Who played mini me in the austin powers. Movies was born in michigan but after moving to center field ohio he was raised. Amish is that fact or fiction. John wait a minute. He was raised that That's too weird to make up. I'll go fact lindsay. I'm gonna go fiction fiction horror fiction fiction. John is right. It is an absolute fact and by the way he died at forty nine in two thousand eighteen yeah. He was raised in an amish community. Number two as history goes silversmith. Paul revere warned the attacking british on his midnight ride but contrary to most history books he never yelled out. The british or coming is that fact or fiction lindsay fact failing said that is fact. I'll say fiction fiction john. I think that's fact. That is a fact. He never yelled out the british or coming. The british are coming all right. So it's john lindsay one yet to scratch as stu lantz would say. I number three cuba gooding. Junior worked as a bartender in west hollywood before he made it big he actually invented his own drink with bumba rum and s blonde tequila blocker and it was known as the cuba is that factor. Is that fiction. That's the fact. That's a fact john. I think that's fiction fiction lindsay fans on this one. I'm going to go fiction. Fiction is the right answer totally made the whole thing up. There is no drink called the cuba. I just looked up some fancy. Lou course going leader though for sure okubo anger but it wasn't invented by john three lindsay to or hey yet to scratch number four renowned anti semite. Mel gibson was born in new york then moved to australia when he was twelve while staying a us citizen. He picked up his australian accent in his teen. Years in sydney is that factor. Fiction born in new york moved australia when he was young. Stayed in american citizen. John it's to you. I think that's true that's true lindsay. I'm still stuck on the renowned. Anti semite part of the description. Bring don't bring in a brand bergman renowned being the key word there is well known antisocial. I'm gonna go with fact fact. Worry i'll go. With fact fact is correct. Yes he was born in. New york went to australia when he was twelve. That's where he picked up his accent. He was an american citizen the whole time. All right number five. It's john for lindsay three or. Hey one spirited game formula one driver. Michael schumacher's nickname is reagan. Koenig is that factor is at fiction lindsay. Rigging drivers but i i'm going to go fiction fiction fiction. You couldn't even pronounce it fiction or john. I think he's i think his nickname is red. Baron does that say. See your word again. reagan koenig. Yeah it sounds closer right. And i'll tell what the hell true john takes. The point. relation is rain king. It's because he is expert at. I was way off. I probably take it. Okay at john five lindsay three whore. Hey one lindsay. You need both of these. And john dimiss. As a child lord of the rings author j r r. Tolkien was bitten by a babboons spider. But even after that he was never afraid of spiders is that fact or is that fiction we start with. John got bit by a spider but never afraid of spiders factor fiction. I god i have no idea fact that lindsay say it's a fact fact toray fiction. Wait a minute. Lindsey isn't the only way you can win by going the other way. I could still tell you well. In this case lindsay is correct. And so are you john okay. He got bit by a spider but was never scared of spiders. By the way he died at eighty. One in one thousand nine hundred seventy three all right last one ireland six lindsay four. No lindsey your shutout and say really rough day for you but here is gone ori number seven anyway. Obnoxious youtube star patchy kid has seven million followers and people think that he wears a patch as part of his act. But the truth is he lost an eye to an eye. Disease is that factor is at fiction. John you have to go. I oh god i have no idea about. I don't even know who patchy kit is fact fact lindsay as patchy kit a cabbage patch head. I can't give anymore. What did john say he said. Fact but i completely guessing. I don't even know who fiction fiction and horror. Hey i'll go fiction fiction. Is the right answer. There is no such youtube star named patchy kid made out. There is no patchy kid. If you're scoring at home you know. I still feel bad about getting that. Conor mcgregor thing wrong earlier. That was just stupid on my par- wasn't what you thought it was going to be on regular tv. This guy thought it was going to be on regular tv. Apparently it is pay per view. They are doing some. Ufc fights on abc on saturday night. But you got to pay for the conor. Mcgregor dustin pedroia fight. Is that something you will by john. No i think michael will let me tell you. Conor mcgregor is one of the most entertaining. Here's fighters i'm gonna include boxers in that that there is maybe the most entertaining lindsay. What do you think i love him. I love i mean. I love to watch him but i don't root for him. I always want him to lose. Because he's such a big mouse. He is so obnoxious but he's definitely you know he's carved out a spot in ufc and made it way more popular than it was before he came around. Because i feel like he attracts so many people because he's such a jerk. He is a jerk. He is a jerk. John you should. You should by no what wins it on wins the fight saturday night. I think the laker game. Oh do you. I got i gotta look but yeah but by the time the time the laker game those five always does by start super lake. John i'll hustle link started startling play in chicago that night. I'm going to start a kickstarter account to pay for your pay per view for the conor mcgregor fight. Don't worry about it. i've got an even better idea. I'll just send you a link. Bourbon steals all those fights. Easy isn't that unconscionable piracy its piracy. You're stealing something that doesn't belong to you. Do you have any ethics but wait a minute. i think. isn't it kind of lindsey. like napster. Napster came along. Everybody just took music even though they knew it was illegal. Right right but napster got sued out of business. Why would imagine these links will eventually go away. But they're trick you got to sometimes they'll disappear midstream and you got another one. Don't you feel bad about stealing. Lindsey like his that one of the ten commandments. Thou shalt not steal. I didn't say i do it. I just said that people do it. Oh you're did not implicate myself so people you know steal. Yeah but you've never saw one yourself. There's plenty of people that i don't know that steal. It should thing you know. People in air quotes people. You know stealing people. Yeah steals everything. Bergman hasn't paid for any tv in like five years. Lindsay your cord cutter right you. You have no monthly payment. Yeah but i think that at this point the amount of streaming services that i'm subscribed to probably ends up equalling that and i think we're all gonna end up in that boat still pay direct tv. I don't know if dirk. tv is going to be around in five years. I i get good service from spectrum. I hear people complain about spectrum. But i think spectrums good. I've never literally the only reason i don't switch to spectrum. Yeah they don't have. Nfl sunday ticket. With donna i heard they might lose it. I know if that happens. That opens the door for me. Took the door for somebody. Yeah well now. The direct tv. Finally cut a deal with the dodgers. I don't have any reason. Well the only thing. I don't get that i want is pac twelve network. You get pac twelve network. Yes i do. That's that's on spectrum. I mean there are so few college sports now with the pandemic and you get all the tournament games when the ncaa tournament start. So i'm really just missing a handful of football game me to find you a link for petkoff games to there you go back to lindsays people. I know lindsay people. You know what i watch. A lot of on On spectrum is channel one the channel one news we know they produce and shoot that news in the same building where they do the laker in the dodger channel. Yeah i keep meaning. They would want me on there. Among the stars on channel one is our old friend kelvin. Washington. yeah i just. I just texted with him last week. He does a great job on there. I never understood why they didn't keep them here to be honest with you. I always liked kelvin. Well didn't we keep because the network takes over different parts of the day at all times you know so it's like like we don't have any control of in the mornings. The best post max show. Because maximum are sell us was a great show The best post-match show and afternoons was us and then it was vance as yourself. It was marcellus and kelvin washington. I thought they did a good job about sodano. L z. Oh no now. We've arrived now. We've got saddam by the way. Bergman just sent me a text. I clean now. I pay for everything. I don't believe that for a liar. I don't think he's ever paid for tv. Would start now. not a thing. Kid set an example. You know look old enough by the way on channel and big shot. I think giselle fernandez does a really good job. Lisa mcree to lisa mcree does a good job. Alex cohen does a really good job. They they really. I think they got it together. When i was in new york. They a channel one and everybody watches channel one in new york and now we've got channel one in la and it's actually worth being on spectrum for. I think it's i think it's really good. Local local news i mess. Local news. personality is who any station anytime who. Well since steve edwards is gone I'm going to say it's That's so tough. i'm. I'm going to say it's michelle tuesday harvey it's pat harvey michelle. Susie is no longer there and his gun for several months. I could see much watch that. No it's pat harvey. that's the answer. Is the best news anchor i've ever seen. Yeah i loved. When it was pat pat harvey and our friend from minnesota paul major right guy that was a great teaming paul majors and pat harvey but anybody with pat. Harvey is great. I know she's big listener to the show. And yeah pat. Harvey's the benefactor. Yes great on the off all right coming up. Next is purgatory. George chelsea the aforementioned best morning mourning best afternoon drive show in the history of seventeen. Espn will be with us. We'll do some purgatory mason ireland seventeen. Espn i will take exception to. This was for one second morales. All right i. I asked to work. Okay and greg's like no no no. Just take the day off. It's fine we'll fill it all right so i i did not. Just take three hours to get to the lakers game. Wait i want to address that okay. What time when you're working a game you like you win. Did i see you last week. What games urinal. Yes and by the way you've lost weight you look fantastic description this story. Can you not find another location to have had this conversation because each other. L. z were limited. Where we can go. We're in a restricted zone. Yeah so that was where we ran into joy. Only men's room in that area. George when you're working a game any game yeah. Seven o'clock game right. What time do you get there. They want me to be there by five. So i left the house at four. I do as well and you and you know it. Lets you kind of cheat if you know what i mean. Yeah in you drive in the normal lanes it takes between forty five minutes to an hour to get there right. Wait a minute now. You really need to be there at five. No i try and get there at five. I never make. It can't squeeze in that last fifteen minutes of purgatory dying out with the guys. But why would i. Why would i risk. If i hit like george because we live in the same general area. We both in the south bay. That is the worst possible time to get on the freeway one. Oh five the one ten and it is jammed the whole way. Because i got the impression you don't you don't love purgatory the way so john dory jut. I was giving you grief the other day. Because i didn't know what time you were supposed to be there so i was saying i'm you know i don't have to be on until six thirty but yeah i want to get there as close as i if i get there later than six. I get really nervous. No no i hear you. So i was joking around because i had not gone to staples at during this time at least not since last season right to get there and five. What time did you leave. So i in the morning. For whatever reason the end of rush hour it only takes me about thirty five minutes. Fifty minutes correct Show because of that. I have rescinded me making fun of you because it does take close to an hour and what i think is that since you guys are all here and michael is always here. Wait i gotta tell you one more thing. There's one more thing that i think everyone needs to know regarding this commute because to your point you mentioned the one five in the one ten like i i. There is a stretch where the one ten meets the ninety one or literally. I'm looking up at the sky. And i'm yelling. You're listening to caspian las. I didn't even see a comment. was really awesome eating. Patchy love that. That's very patchy ca. I would've run the table. Elza if i wouldn't miss that stupid. Patchy king all patchy kid. Yeah you love him. But anyway john i i had i had not driven at that time to staples so now. Right yes okay. Exactly i mean four people on the radio like we have right. Now is a lot five on the radio and me. Being late is by the way. mace knowing. How the lakers feel about things. How do you think they'd feel if i showed up late for a game. I think they'd understand. I think they'd be very very understand. Okay i just know. They're unlikely now. George help talk mason into something. That's obvious okay. He's not buying the nets. No and i keep explaining to him that not only are the nets going to win the east. Yes but they made have the best record because they get to play. The majority of their games against the bat. Eastern conference and the lakers are going to be playing against the good western conference. I'm legit the nets are the only team. I think that that fight in the lakers weight class. What do you think yes. I l z. And i've talked about. This is also my opinion. I believe that. I don't think they're better than the lakers. I would say you know them in. The clippers could be interesting argument to but i do think that if there they're very few teams that can to your point compete with the lakers. Right that are in the same weight class. And i think that. I still think the clippers would would be a tough match up in a seven game series if they got there and i definitely think the brooklyn nets are in that category. Yeah i just don't know how it all looks when it comes together. I know they're going through a honeymoon period right now and they look good last night. Great game with milwaukee lead changes. I think ten times in the fourth quarter but once you add the wild card once you add read that mix. I just don't know what it looks like. And i made attention to be very combustible now z. You've seen those. You've seen those games. Where whether it be an olympic gold medal game or an all star game when those guys get around other great players. They share the ball. It's not gonna be over those games. Don't count but all star game. That doesn't count. Everybody uses that olympics model. You know what the olympics are just such a different animal having been there. It's such a different animal and is good. They're a good team. But those teams are good and everything but the reason why say they do. Not count is. Because i'll use carmelo anthony as an example when you say carmelo. Anthony is a great champion. And he's going to the hall of fame and you point to all of his olympic medals. You use the head with laughter that tells you right there in in there how people truly feel about basketball when it comes to the olympics as well as the all star game right but i bite my point being at the olympics. Is it possible for those guys to all play together. They've done it before. By the way all i mean harden and durant played together for the first three years of their career and went to the nba finals. Yeah but here. Here's what i would say. I'm with you but i also see mason. Llc's point a little bit too. Like i do think that kyrie aspect is going to be a challenge like. I don't think this is going to be a smooth ride. This is where you and i disagree. I don't think it's going to be a smooth ride for brooklyn. I think it's going to be a bumpy ride. I think that steve nash. Mike d'antoni jacques van that staff is going to have some sleepless nights particularly because of kyrie. But what we saw. Yesterday from james harden as i was watching that game reminded me of the first year mike d'antoni got to houston and there was no sidekick to james harden so it was james harden going for thirty while also getting you close you know whatever was twelve thirteen assists a night basically and he was a he was basically steve dash but who could score thirty something and night any given night and i feel like that's the best version of harden and that's the hardin. You're going to get with this team. Because there is a clear pecking order. He knows he's not better than durant. And he knows he's a better facilitator than kyrie kyri is an embedded score in his mind. So i honestly think that while the kyri part is a wildcard. I do think it'll be a little bit of a bumpy ride. Because they're going to have to figure out the ego part of it. I feel i hear you hear you. George and i feel and i'm glad you brought the steve nash example. Because i think this is the reason why i don't really care. Know about the nets right. Now is because steve. Nash was more than capable of scoring thirty points any night. He's one of the greatest shooters in the history of this game. Fifty forty nine hundred multiple times in the course of his career. He chose not to to make sure that everyone else in the court got. There's that's not. James harden's mentality so while he may have the capabilities of being a better facilitator. The truth of the matter is that he is looking for his and the facilitation is secondary just as the facilitation from correa's secondary. The facilitates from durant is secondary. So there's no one on this court at any given moment whose first priority everyone else. Yeah yeah i mean. They are three of the top six in usage rate which means they have the ball in their hands a lot when all three of them are out there who's got the ball in their hands. I mean i you know the the line is. There's only one basketball. But i mean that's actually the numbers behind it three of the top six and usage rate. I mean james harden averages. I think it's like six seconds the ball in his hands when he was down in. Houston well if you're eating up. Six seconds of the shot clock. Where's k. d. and worse kyrie and that's just the offense of end. We even talk about what happens on the other side of the court. So i i like the nets. I i like the players. And you know blah blah blah and. I'm really really shout out to kyri for buying a home for the family george. That's that's really huge. And we know that harden as well as iran are good guys that take care of the neighborhoods where they play. It's not about them as men but when you throw that mixed together and their priorities as of course of their career as players i just don't think they have what it takes to get to a championship because there has been nothing about the three of them with me be exception of katie though you can debate those championships in terms of the dynamics of the team. All you want. But certainly not hardening in irving strike me as leaders of championship caliber teams l. Who's that case then. Who comes out of the east. In your opinion. I'm still looking at the bucks. Okay what what. What's your favorite thing to drink. Do you drink wine. I do drink wine. What's your favorite wine. Are you speaking in terms of venue. Or internal. I will bet you a bottle of wine brooklyn you get milwaukee. Oh well then then okay came with select will. That's the goodyear selena the good stuff now. Drink straw came select. If it's if it's brooklyn. I win if it's milwaukee you win and if it's somebody else to wash someone else by bottle from ace right by bottle from as you buy a bottle for george farren. Okay here's why don't you john okay. Here's the bet if it's not brooklyn 'cause i'm betting against brooklyn i'll take the field you have to walk into a dispensary and buy me some granddaddy purple. Which is my favorite granddaddy. I don't want to be seen walking into a dispensary age because it's all. Yeah that's the fun part you walk into a dispensary but but can i have your deliver. What's the delivery. Service you have your. We'd delivered by e hold a why. Why can't you walk into the dispensary. Because somebody'll somebody'll mason will take a picture of it and put it on his instagram. And somebody'll use it to get me fired. But why do you get fired for doing something illegal. a why. why does anybody get fired. Yeah but looking okay. i'll buy it for you. What what's it called again. It's called granddaddy purple. Say gee okay. Yeah yeah okay. I went version to go and get my exclusive. I wouldn't either. But i'll do it because you never know. You never know you never know you like. Oh i want purple rain. Hey george what's coming up on the big show today. Signed a rap. We wanna keep going. I mean i'm pretty much done. So yeah that's what. I figured out stuff to say. So l z nyaga. Talk about how. We curse the lakers. Yesterday we're going down there. How did you curse them. Well will well. We basically said they're boring right now. They're so good that they're boring. I they did. I think george it is possible that when they got nineteen they did get a little bored that they just didn't feel like i mean michael even said it a michael. His refrigerator privileges have been banned. Yeah because he's put that game in the refrigerator. Yeah he did. Laura tweeting about it. Yeah and so. I think that that's part of when you're just rolling everybody and they were up by nineteen. You can get lulled to sleep a little bit. Yeah so i think we also jinx them a little bit. we feel. We're going to put that one on us and then Kirk is gonna stop by to talk about the rams and the nfl. You got a new defensive coordinator. Yeah yeah we're gonna talk about the the afc nfc championship game with him. And then steve wash the nfl network. Has that story at nfl. Dot com about a golfing mcveigh's relationship being a little. Steve said he thinks they need marriage counseling right. The that was the phrase. Well that was what the source told him that they need. Marriage counseling the source within the rams organization. So we're going to talk to steve about that story. And how much marriage counseling are we talking about like talking about like. Is it salvageable. They to reconcile so steve will have some answers for us at six o'clock you and lisa ever go to marriage counselling before we got married. We went the church. Were where we were talking about getting married. Had you go through five counseling sessions with pastors. That's closest thing we did. George what about you you. And the what's your. What's your wife's name kelly. We all to do something similar when we got married as well. But i go to therapy every week and i talk about what What a pain in the ass. I am so. Amen sodas mason. What about you. And steve elsie Well actually. I went to marriage counseling with my wife and we still ended up in divorce. did not do marriage counseling with my husband. And where do you know. We're still together so you go there. You go by the way of any. You guys ever talk to iraqi morris this guy room to be getting the the rams defensive coordinator done in the past super super impressive guy like i the rams if the rams are able to close that deal i think their defense. Just pick right up where it left off with brandon staley. That would be great. Get if they could get that guy. Who'll while all that is coming up with. George now z. This afternoon tomorrow on mason ireland. Don't forget two o'clock you want to be here for the lakers. Back to back phrase that pays a chance to win a thousand bucks. This week and dan grazziano. Espn nfl insider is going to join us.

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#580: Why People Do (Or Don't) Listen to You

The Art of Manliness

57:43 min | 1 year ago

#580: Why People Do (Or Don't) Listen to You

"In Britain occasion welcome to know the dishes of art of manliness manliness podcast some cultural observers posited that removing from an information economy to a reputation economy. There's so much information soared through that figuring out which bits to pay attention to has come to increasingly recently rely on what we think of the person delivering them privileged the Messenger over the message. How exactly do decide which messengers to listen to or not? What draws US particularly messengers? It causes just a tune out others. My guest has spent his career researching lecturing and writing about the answers to these questions and shares his insights in a new book. His name is Steve Martin and he's the author of messengers who listen to if we don't live in the first half our conversation. We unpack why it is the Messenger matter so much and how people can manipulate these factors unethical ways the pedal messages and influence that may not be credible edible within shift into how you can also leverage these neutral tools and ethical ways to make yourself more persuasive. Insure your ideas get heard. Steve explained. They're two types of persuasive messengers. Hard and soft and walks assisted qualities in body by each discussed the different ways a person can become an effective hard messenger incompetence dominance and attractiveness what makes me soft messenger persuasive including warmth vulnerability ability and charisma the latter of which corporates a trait may not have previously associated with keen charismatics. Check that out Weiner conversation discussing win you should use a hard for a soft approach coach. You seek to lead in share your message after shows over check it or show notes at am dot is Slash Messengers We'll Steve Martin. Welcome to the show. Well thank you very much. Indeed for inviting me Brett's so you are a CO author of a Book Called Messengers who we listened to who we don't ny. Now we often think that I think people typically think that we we messages. If a message is truthful it's written persuasively that's enough but you and your co author have done a lot of research and highlight a lot of research in the book. That's that's not. Typically the case the person delivering the message has a big impact on whether someone believes it or not so. Let's let's start with some examples of true true messengers that were ignored because they were given by. Not so great. Messenger for that situation. They're they're basically Cassandra from Greek myths engage. Jj there are lots of examples of the what we call. The CASSANDRA COMPLEX I thought would be really interesting to talk about. So the first is chuck called Michael Michael Barry He was a Stanford trained MD on then subsequently left medicine and started his own investment fund. And what it was interesting about Michael Berry is he one of the very first people to recognize the fragile states of the mortgage situation in the US. He was one one of the only folks who recognize that there could be a financial all stop in the offing and started to bet against and shorts. What's subprime mortgages even to invent a product to do it because there was no way that you could shot a subprime mortgage time but the challenge that Barry had was the no-one no one really listened to him? You know he actually was a a pretty awkward communicator. Didn't actually have the you know the the Windsor knotted ties and the suits just that you'd expect from the Wall Street financiers and so was largely ridiculed and ignored yet. The information he had was highly predictive of what was actually GonNa Happen. He made hundreds of millions of dollars. It was just the case that he was the role Messenger. He had the rights content yet. The right well-considered evidence but no one really was listening to him. It was actually someone else in from Deutsche Bank who took Barry's information presented. It lost his own and made fortunes himself himself. So that's one example of what we call. This cassandra complex but I think you know this. An example is much closer to home breath which is ourselves all of us. I'm sure I've had an experience. Maybe it work where you have an idea road opinion. You want to share with a colleague or you know a few people in a meeting and they look could you in that way and they say no bright not. That's not a good idea. I really think that we should be doing that. And then a couple of days later maybe a couple of weeks later someone else comes along with the exact same idea that we had and all of a sudden the idea that we had that was roundly rejected is suddenly being enthusiastically. The embraced when someone else says it. So that's what we're talking about women talking about. These messenger affects sometimes. It's not enough just to have a persuasive or a well. Evidence or truthful truthful appeal or proposal to people. Sometimes it's the person that's delivering. The message. That matters more is what goes on in our brain like why does our brain linked the message image with the Messenger. Yeah it's a really good question and I think part of the reason is the world we live in today. It's it's really hard and tough to kind of compute ourselves whether a message and the information is being conveyed is is worthy of our attention. You know the so many things that are vying for attention who would make a good president you know. Should we send our kids to school. What's a good regime and workout for me? These these different kinds of things and so a quick way in which we can navigate always through this information overloaded. Well is to largely ignore what's being said and Roth by saw judgments on. Who is saying it you know so if if a friend of all says you know this is a good idea? Because they're our friends. We kind of assume often only that they they have good information and good knowledge that can advise a so. When a messenger communicates a message that association becomes really interesting? It's also interesting where that phrase phrase. Don't shoot the Messenger. Comes from so it works both ways. You could look for good and not so good sometimes if we have to deliver bad news on behalf of someone week we become associated with avenues as well. So it's Kinda one of those quirks of all conditioning and on the way in which we take on board information we link Messenger to message even in times where there is no logical or rational links. That should be there. But it's just an easy quick way to determine what we should pay attention to. It just reminded me of the communications expert. The media theorist Marshall McLuhan reset the medium. Is the message right like. Yeah the Canadian philosopher Guy. Yeah I think what Joe Mocks my throne I probably claiming here is that there's probably a contemporary updates to the idea of the medium is the message it still is of course but we're GONNA go on stage further and actually say you know what Brett these days. The Messenger is the message. You know every day. The news seems to Serb up another headline where someone can say something. And just because of who they are it gets believed or it gets rejects exit particularly in this kind of divisive world that we live in now so yeah we've updated a more contemporary. Take I think on that. Nineteen fifties fifties nineteen sixties. Idea of the medium is the message. Is this idea that the Messenger is the message. So you and your co author. Joe Marks the argue that they're two broad categories stories of messengers. There's hard messengers and soft messengers. And we'll get into details about both but big picture overview of these two categories and messengers. What's a hard messenger like in? What's it's a soft messenger like? Yeah I think. The the way to differentiate between hard and soft is think about halt messages are the types of communicators that are Hud Hud because they are seen to have some sort of status over the audience they communicating ways whereas in contrast. This soft Messenger has connectedness with the audience. They communicating with so the hard messenger seeks to get ahead of their audience whereas the soft messenger Strives to get along with their audience. So that's how. We'd kind of differentiate too while most to get ahead of the other ones to get a knoll are so let's talk about hard messengers. And they're they're all about status satis. There are different ways to show status in the first one. You all talk about is fame and money socioeconomic status so can you walk us through some of the experiments that you all found that the fact that we're more likely to believe people or trust them if they look rich and famous. I think a lot of people here that like no. Yeah that's not important. I'm I am a democratic person. That doesn't matter but you've found research at that says that's not so. Yeah I mean it's one of those things. We'd like to think that when influenced fluent by these on the surface types of signals of fame and fortune and status and position but we all the fundamental to our psychology one of my favorite good examples that we on earth is is an old one is back to the sixties a couple of California based researchers this experiment in Paolo Alto in northern California. They they drove different. 'cause up to junctions to stop signs and they they arranged the timing and the arrival of the of their call the junction. They just as the light went to read so they will I in the stateline on then when the lights turn green on at this point q hats or line have caused phones behind them. They deliberately didn't pull off and they had research is in the backs of the call with stop watches and they were timing how long it took the call behind behind to honk the horn. And say will you get a move on but what they did is they drove different calls. And so what they found was that people's likelihood to honk at the car in front. It was not necessarily a signal of impatience but rather a sign of how prestigious the call they were driving so what was interesting. Was You know when they ask most people in advance they say. Would you be likely to Hong Cohort at a low status call than say a High Status Shiny Polished Sedan. People will I know vashon probably more likely to Hong Kong that high status car but in reality the exact opposite was true. People were much less likely to hulk quickly at a high stages call whereas if they were being held up by low states is called straight on that horn. Get Out of my way. Now that might be a study from the nineteen sixties. But he's been replicated in fats in countries around around the wells We find that that's kind of seduction of a high status. sorefame rich queue can be incredibly attention grabbing into US and once we see that it can lead us to make decisions about you. Know the validity of what that person's circumstances all what they're saying such that we may listen to the more likely be will likely rather to listen to them. In those instances there's an example of just. How a single the cost someone drives Communicates a lot about who they are. And we kind of take on both inflammation of make also various inferences and judgments about them as a result. And I think another experiment to where there was people who were the doing a survey in one time they were on the plane polo shirt but the next time they were a polo shirt with like the Lacoste brand alligator and those guys got more responses. I cable responded them. More just with that alligator exactly An- in fact. Actually this this other stuff here executive about that. The other studies that she showed even people who really shouldn't have that needs to to associate with status Because of the income can be seduced by this as well a study where in Bolivia families living on the breadline literally adult day offered the opportunity to use some of that money to buy on off to shave in fact in fact in each case. The aftershave was always the same. The same bottle is just some bottles. Had the Calvin Klein brand insignia on the bottle and another student and an even the poorest families will wanting to pay a little bit more to kind of be connected to that status in that instance is it just the appearance of famine money. I mean can you actually be broken not me not famous. As long as you look written famous people are going to be more likely to listen to you why I think it's the case Brat. The the increasingly in this fast paced often kind of surface level type of in a world that we actually live in looking and sounding writes increasingly seems to be as important as actually being rights and so sometimes this queue of fame leads people in the wrong direction direction. You know we found for example a couple of years ago in China there was a situation where a famous popstar announced on what's APP to them billions of followers that those people that had the flu shots to protect them against influenza actually ninety percent more likely to actually catch the flu lewd. Now that's against all good medical evidence and research yet. The fact that they were famous they had notoriety. They were heard and it caused huge problems with the health officials are scrambling to contain the impact. This message so sometimes you know the message doesn't necessarily have to have any merit. Raven have any basis inevitable. Truth if it comes from someone that we see has some former status and we are alert to that status. We can sometimes find ourselves being you know. Essentially being sucked into what they have to say regardless of the wisdom of what's being said. I'm sure he's like what's going on. Like why do we give credence to people with money and An fame is it. Is it. The idea is like wealth. They're famous and rich. They must be smart or competent. So we're GONNA listen to that person that what's going on in our brain. Yeah I think it is. I mean gene essentially I mean we all have I think these ideal where we live in a jaw swells where those people rise through the ranks become the CEO. It became the captain of the sports team. Become you know rich famous well recognized in society. They must have some skill some attributes about them that have allowed them to to get to that lofty position and so it does have an influence over us. I mean one of the classic example I think is when we meet someone for the first time we're almost invariably will likely to inquire what they do. Hey Nice to meet you bright. What does it you do what Ashley Looking for? There is some sort of evidence of where do you sit on that social well hi rocky compared to me so it is you know we have been this what we claim to be a more egalitarian society. Now but these kind of like states excuse that they still seem to kind of catch your attention to be important to us. Are there. Instances where fame and money can actually make you less believable people say well. Yeah I'm not going to believe you because you've got lots of your money and your famous. Yes an interesting what I think. Yes there is some evidence. Now that suggests that When brands and products use famous people celebrities to endorse their products? That's becoming less less effective than perhaps ten twenty thirty years ago. But that's not to say that we're still not kind of influenced than seduced by the celebrity endorsements. It's just with less likely to be persuaded when a celebrity is overtly eulogizing about a product. But was still you know. Oh very much influence when we see a celebration using product so you know surprised a lot of ads. A lot of the influence counter-strategies these days on on celebrities that are saying use this product because of X Y and Z. Ed instead. What they're doing is they're being photographed enjoying the products being associated with it so there that rather than endorsing the products? They're they're kind of using the product. So that's where I see that instance where perhaps being rich and famous celebrity might have less of an effect. So let's talk about Another way we gain status which is competence so the way you determine confidence where we think we determine competence is all you look at someone you look at their actions. Are they effective to to get things done. But y'all highlight research that that's not the only way we determine competence we can actually we will retry to determine competence just by looking at somebody's face in the way they carry themselves solve yes. Competence has a face. It's typically squarer rather than round a more mature looking Is Closer together even organizations. Actually use use these signals to position their competence. If you've ever wondered if you've ever gone into like a reception area of a of a major firm and he seal those clocks up on the wall in the reception canary telling the time in different cities around the world. I guess if you walk into an office in New York you probably don't need to know what the time is in Shanghai or Sydney or London. You're probably not thinking nat. So why do they put the clocks there. And it's a sign of competencies saying that we've got global presence. We walk around the world. We have you know this worldwide skill also in the same way as you know a doctor might wear a white coat and US might put a stethoscope around his or her shoulders to convey their expertise organizations. Do it as well and you know. In this instance. When looking for some instrumental value is the sum transferable bullish that that person or organization in has that will be helpful to me and if we see those cues the research shows the in a lot of circumstances and context will be more likely to listen to them? That idea the white doctor Dr Code like advertisers. Understand that so whenever they do. There's an advertising for medicine or some kind of health product will put an actor. WHO's not a doctor in a white coat? and Oh oh yeah I believe this guy because it looks like a doctor. Yeah in fact. I've even seen ads where the actor actually says. I'm not a doctor but I I still think he should use this product. And the fact that they're wearing the white coat they have the stethoscope the pens in a breast pocket. Yeah all those traps those those trappings of competency percents I is what we call us. And another thing that people we looked to determine. Competence is just confidence. So I think you highlighted research where people in groups whenever they see someone who's like very confident and outspoken about something they'll deem that guy like that guy knows what he's talking about even though he might not really know what he's talking about. Yeah that's the the classic confidence trick. Isn't that we an economy makes sense in one direction if you think about it because you know if someone has true competence Susan expertise you know they. They've studied for many years. They've got keys of experience of a particular knowledge of a of a product or an industry. Mystery or some sort of science is kind of unsurprising that they would communicate. Cold Front confidently about that. Because you know they've owned the right to but it goes in the other direction as well so we we can very easily INFO Someone's competence by how confidently they talk about something. Even even if actually they know squat about the subject. So yes the Kasich confidence trickster What's seductive in that? Instance is that their ability to convey some confidence some shortness of what they're actually saying. Even though they might be talking about is just complete Rault. Wha- AH One thing I've noticed my own life is that the people who are actually really competent actually aren't very outspoken. And they actually couched their their statements with the Kinda in a hedge. It a bit. You know they're like well. I suppose this but like the person who doesn't know they're suffering from the dunning Kruger effect. Where they just? They don't realize they don't know anything but they're very confident that they know something. Yeah I think that's a really interesting insight because I guess in a way if you are a true experts you probably are pretty aware of the absent minded be small areas of your knowledge that missing or you are uncertain about particular things but this does research actually the shows that if someone is seen as an expert and they communicate you know a little bit of uncertainty in response to maybe a question. They've asked maybe. There isn't research to support announcer. They become even more expert in the eyes of the audience. Whereas if if you've got an expert or an inexperienced communication that instances just basically confident that probably less likely to convey their you? I'm not sure about this because you know they. They primarily trading on that confidence that ability to yes. I know what I'm talking about. So it's got the on Don Sutton expert in a lot of context seems to be the most compelling and persuasive communicator. I think what happens is it takes a while for that to shake out so I think with those studies that we talked about. The person's really confident the beginning. Unusually determined to be the the expert on the leader But then like after a while people are asked again. What do you think about at this guy? guy's an idiot like people finally figured out he actually doesn't know anything and they'll assign exit yet. So that's the tricks of someone's acting really overly confident and when you first meet them watch out paid doesn't mean you the disregard them maybe pay attention to see if their their actions back up their words. Yeah I think so. Be Alert to other people in the room. That have that kind of they might seem quiet. They might seem timid but actually what they might be doing is just sitting back and watch him was going on and thinking Ashley. This isn't that what they're talking about. But I'm just going to let them do their thing and I'm just going to sit here and see how it unfolds. So sometimes you know be alert also also to the quiet posted in the room who might actually turn out to be the most accomplished in the most established in terms of what they're talking about. Well it's quite this practical implication McKay. She talked about the beginning of the conversation. Where you know about the idea? You have an idea for something that your work you say it it gets disregarded someone else say says that people listen to it. You can be competent at something but if other people don't know you're competent than like all your competencies like doesn't mean anything so the trick is you have to be able to promote yourself. Let people know that you're competent. But you don't WanNa do it in a way where it's off putting writer people's like that guy's a blowhard so you're like how do you like what is the research and how you can promote yourself and this is becoming more important in our economy where people have to promote themselves. They have to your sort of becoming your own your own agent. How do you promote yourself without turning people off exactly An- An- actually we study the looks of this and it turns out that if you could arrange for someone else to introduce all talk about your expertise before you make a recommendation or give someone some advice vice that same recommendation or advice becomes elevated in terms of its persuasiveness is appeal And we actually did this experiment. Bright with always with realtors. Who would have your customers or potential clients? Call their office you know. They're interesting selling their house or may be renting a property and you know a receptionist receptionists would answer the phone and they route the cool through to the realtor and say right will let me put you through to Bret who help with your inquiry and we said well look what happened if instead of just I'll put you through to the realtor before you connected to call you. Gave that potential client a piece of information genuine information and that conveyed their expertise. So many like look instead of style put you through to Brett who's head of sales you instead said. Well let me put you through to Brad. WHO's not side of sales? He's been doing this fifteen years in you know. He's a member of the realty guild of Oklahoma. He's you know recently sold out on that big property down to the waterfront. He is probably the the best person in our office today to give you some useful information and they do that just before they put the coal fru. Suddenly you don't have to do that anymore. You can you know when you're talking to a potential client. You know the the the the last thing you want to be doing this this before. I make a recommendation to you. Let me tell you about how wonderful from a brilliant and experienced I am because immediately as you write eight suggested a few months ago that war goes off between you but if someone else does it I think that's a really really important thing. We we actually increase the number of Valuation Appointments By twenty percent of contracts signed by fifteen percent. Just by doing that. It didn't cost any money and I think there's a lesson here not just for ourselves but in terms of increasing our own perceived expertise and competence. But if we're managing people you know I think it's a good a good idea for leaders supervisors to it with a teams Communicating to others potential clients and colleagues to kind of boost their competence by talking about how great they all the kind of experience. They have the great projects they've actually delivered on and it doesn't mean the two advantages not only do you kind of raise that hat perceived competence genuinely but you're giving people kind of aspirations and labels to live up to so. I think this this is a lot of merit I think in working out the small simple costas ways to introduce either our own expertise or introduce colleagues expertise. Everybody wins in that instance so yeah I think that's great. I I love that. So there's two things there find someone who can be an advocate for you then also just advocate for advocate for other people. If you know someone who's really competent let other people know and that'll boost your status. 'cause people sharing so useful information with me and the other person will probably appreciate that you you know you promoted them. Yeah what what we're finding grant is that's particularly useful and you know the situation sometimes at work and you're an amazing this like a dozen people in the room and someone starts the meeting by saying let's go around the room and introduce ourselves selves. Shall we I mean it's never a good start for missing because no one that you know a a reasonably normal human being is going to want to stand up and talk about how blatantly I refer Seles strangers so in very just going to give the name of the job title so it doesn't really promote useful exchanges of inflammation so it's it's a poor all starts. Were meeting in that regard but it's it's actually a ridiculous start easy anyway because no is listening to what people say because the moment you know it's your turn to speak you thinking jeeze while my about to say about myself also no one's listening to what's being said anyway. So what we found. Is that the optimal way to start. A meeting is the most senior person or whoever call the meeting should be responsible symbol for introducing everyone and the reason why they're in the room and it neatly don't use that kind of uncertain uncomfortable situation of let's go round the room and introduce ourselves selves. That's what we're finding is the probably the optimal way to stop meetings. So let's talk about another way. We gained status. And that's dominance. So what are the common ways that we use. Dominance dominance to gain status. Yes this idea of. Dominance is very heavily rooted in the kind of evolutionary type of of of conduct. You know there are certain people we will know who they are. Who just they seem to kind of treat life as a competition and their goal is to win? Can at all costs to the victor goes the spoils and so they they are often. You know the way they come into the room hill. They'll kind of expand themselves into the Spice Vice. They'll you know they'll they'll talk loudly often. They have deeper voices. The projects themselves essentially trying to do an attempt to do there is to the site. Look I am the on the dominant one. Here you know. On the on the Alpha in this instance and you'd think the economy we're over that now you know it's not like we have fights now to determine who's the president or who's the CEO is not we days when we used to live in the caves and things but those kind kind of cues of dominance a still. They're still attractive to US Brandon and so often when we see in certain circumstances if we see that someone has you know a disposition positionally dominant personality we can under certain circumstances and contexts. Be More orientated. What they have to say and listen to them and so so you think in this kind of society? We wouldn't be relying so much on those things but you know some of the studies actually find that children as young as ten in months old so barely able to speak are able to recognize cues of dominant characters and using technology basically how long they look at a screen. I mean they're able to determine if you show them a little cartoon where one character is more dominant than the other. They express surprise if the if the underdog wins in conflict. So it's deeply rooted in all of us real quick break for words more sponsors. Thanks in large part patented Ballpark Pouch. Saks underwear will change. Change your expectations. 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One big context is when we're feeling anxious or uncertain or this some fear that that we have in in those circumstances we are especially inclined to turn towards a dominant type of communicator rather than a sophomore connected. One because essentially what we're looking for there is some sort of assurance in a way out and actually it's it's it's been shown I she in research when you look coat for example the recruitment boards of large organizations if a company is actually in trouble if the show price the Stock Price Susan performing particularly well if there are low levels of psychological safety in the organization if there's not a good clear strategy strategy and goal or direction the organization is working to ward then much much more likely to appoint a dominant character to the board whereas in contrast if if at Saint Companies doing well you know prophets are doing well this good psychological safety across the organization this a clear strategy then much less likely in those instances to appoint a dominance executive or board member much much more likely to appoint an emotionally intelligent halogen connected warmer. CEO or C. level executives instances. And so I think a lot of dominant disposition dominant communicates is out in the world that recognize this so no surprise that you know there are certain public figures who will hawk and and provoke and spoke fear and anxiety in a community knowing that the disposition really dominant profile is perfect. In in that context there was creating the fear knowing that they are then the perfect messenger to kind of come in and say I'm ready to lead. I'm ready to save today. So that's the typical context where we be especially especially inclined to look towards one of the dominant types of characters. And are there downsides to dominant semi. I guess in some situations. Okay if you are in a situation where you like your company's against the yeah it's going down the tubes countries at war a dominant leader might come in handy. But are there downsides. If they're like too much dominance well the campaign I mean because of course US dominance comes at a cost and what it comes on the cost of courses that connectedness that relationship and so you know in comedy show at times you know what we looked to perhaps a more favourable connected benevolence type of a messenger suddenly that dominant Carrington becomes irrelevant to us. And and so that that disconnect from that worth that's that's the downside they become pigeonholed as the you know the kind of like bullying bulldozer. And in that instance the result in lots of different inferences we make about that. So we're less likely to listen to them in ECOMMERCE or a time. So that's the that's the primary I think downsides Loyd they they kind of pigeonhole themselves into a particular characteristic cool situation where they are wanted but of course as a result they they make themselves much more irrelevant in a majority of other contexts zone. Who came to mind? who was able to balance dominance with connection was Winston Churchill? He was able to show that as sort of bulldog side but also project warmth to citizens though even he he was voted out of office after the war because even though we had both traits he was most suited being a wartime leader and people wanted to move on from that time. I think there's a real skill elegance for you know the the really really effective messenger communicator. To be able to recognize when that that dominance characteristic is is is going to be desirable but they will send a winter. Turn it down and become more Benevolent come more connected. More Woman that instance and I think you're right shoulder. Chill did that pretty well. I I think Lyndon Johnson was a you know an American president that that also had a similar kind of profile. You know he was he was. I think the Torius obvious forgiving Sutton members of Congress in the House of Representatives. What was called the treatment? You know where he'd literally go right up and put his face directly in front of there is such that you could hear here. You can hear him breathing. You could feel his breath but in another instance as he was you know incredibly generous person who would reach out to something. People want to come and give us us to create those kind of reciprocal exchanges as well. So those communicates is that are able to kind of understand the balance of where it's good to be a hard donut messenger adjourn. And also where it's actually probably going to be a negative impact or even actually disruptive to them and to be able to balance the two. That's a great place to be if you you can do that. We'll talk about the final way we gain status are hard messenger debts through attractiveness. So what are the studies that show that someone's attractiveness. This makes them more believable. Yes I think so a good one would be. There was a study that was done a few years ago. Now in Italy where research is applied on behalf of genuine job applicants for somebody that would have about eleven thousand genuine job opportunities. They sent out resumes to these companies. And what they did is they attached to these resumes in certain circumstances a possible size photograph photograph of the applicant. And she can imagine if you send out about number of of of of. CV's you know about. Half of the applicants are going to be above average and attractiveness and in the Hoffer GonNa be below average and they measured the response rates from those organizations. who were they wanting to call in for interview and there was a clear advantage for those that sent in their resumes with an attractive photograph now holding holding constant the capability and experience of the applicants as well? So it wasn't that they were necessarily more experience. Will they had better qualifications or skills that was largely absolutely constant. Across the the applicants it was just a measure of their attractiveness. The unfortunate thing of course is for those that were slightly below average in attractiveness. They much less likely to get called for an interview and actually in those circumstances it was actually more beneficial for them to not put a a photograph to the African application. Rather in the first does play. So there's an example they really stalk example of how you know. We're we're assessing someone with thinking. Okay all the competent. They good for this job. Where actually outsourcing that decision to something as simple as they look attractive so that was a a really? You know kind of eyebrow raising study that we saw really large-scale example of how all the luck that some people have in terms of their. You know they've been just genetically blessed the bus that the the huge advantage that can carry a knife and so what do you do. What are the practical implications? What if you are a person who got the short end of the handsome stick? Are you like doomed to like never be a a messenger. A WHO people listen to are there. Things you can do actually increase your attractiveness. Well I think this there are things you can do. I mean you know beyond in what has been a gifted to us at birth. We can dress differently. Can Use cosmetics makeup these the these kind of things. In fact studies have actually shown the food service. Eva's that wear red lipstick for example. Get Tips in that instance so there are some you know kind of selfish things we can actually do. I guess the important thing though here is this is the there are eight of these kind of message right so just because you feel like you'll lacking in one that doesn't mean that the other seven on available for you you know. Oh you might be the your competence or your Your Wall so you'll you'll trustworthiness on. Are we going to talk about this. These other traits in a few moments that might be more important confusing signal in that instance. Let's move to some of these the to the warmth the Sock Messenger traits and this is all about connections. It's not about a status. Not People looking up to you. It's it's about U connecting with people and one trait that people look to for a soft messengers warmth. So what what do you mean. How do you define warmth well? We defined find warmth into way so one is about connectedness. The Wool Messenger essentially communicates their benevolence with an audience whether that's an individual talking to or a group or a whole room of people that they're essentially saying I have you entrust the hot. I'm not trying to get ahead of you. I'm trying to get along with you. And they do this by demonstrating positively they do it by seeking out. Similarities is that they may share with the audience. You know where we're with the same because we come from the you know the similar place or we have similar experiences or we have same set of values. They they're essentially Brett communicating their benevolence and that connectedness with their audience before they deliver a message. And that's what we define as the as the WOM- messenger that instance and I can be incredibly incredibly persuasive and does the studies for example that actually show that in a doctor's for example that are treating patients that that US warm connected caring tone of voice. A much less is likely to get sued if they make a medical era. Then this a doctor that gives the exact same advice and counsel in in a in a harder in a more kind of technical dominant kind of way so that just that bedside manner in instance can mean the difference between getting pseudo. Oh no so. That's that's how crucial this in this context of connecting with others the idea of connecting through warmth in politicians take advantage manager. At least you see this here in the states. I don't know what it's like in the United Kingdom but like a politician will come to Oklahoma and they'll try to find some connection they have to Oklahoma's like oh well. My grandfather lived in Oklahoma. And you're like Oh yeah I love this guy. Even though he's never lived in Oklahoma you had a GRANDPA that lived in Oklahoma. I feel connected. Yeah executive here I. I'm reminded of what am I actually professor minor the US. Cairo Patel Denia a retired globally esteems social social psychologists that Arizona State University when he first joined the university as an assistant professor to this fascinating. Little study where he gave his Grad students a kind of synopsis of the Torius Characters History Mussolini Stalin and any particular Grigori. Rasputin the mad monk of Russia. And and you know he gave me these profiles and getting groups and tell us how likable this guy is you know. Give us an opinion. An evaluation of also person he was and of course you know you. You read the story about recipe tuning. He got this guy was awful desperately horrible character but there was always a group of students is that for some reason seem to be a little bit more connected to this guy that everyone else and what in Chaldean colleagues had actually done. Is They kinda manipulated indicated information in such a way that certain students found out that they shared the same birthday isn't a Tory character from the pass and in the same way as you described you know with a politician comes into Oklahoma and says Oh. My Grandmother was from Oklahoma article that connection these students got well. He called me Dat bag because he shares the same birthday as me. You know all the information mation was the same but that seemingly irrelevant connection. You know just softens someone else's notoriety little such that we think well okay we maybe we can have an exchange here so important so another way that people can Be Asaf Messengers through vulnerability. How do you define that? Yeah so so. When we talk about vulnerability we're talking about and I think often when we talk about vulnerability we're talking about you know people that perhaps don't have status? They don't the not rich. They're not famous that it necessarily have competence all they have essentially as their ability to reach out to others and say I need help in I I need some sort of assistance here and we find that in certain contexts. If we learned that someone has a need all humanity kicks it. We seem seem connected to them. We will help them all so so often. If we have a downside or some weakness vulnerability the natural inclination. I think Brad is first to kind of hide that away because we think we don't want to be seen as needy but in certain circumstances it can be pretty productive and it's just as we got nothing else to trade on so eat so we have to do that and they're actually studies that show that you know when people do express vulnerability although we'd like to allow we think people aren't going to help me people much much more likely to say yes to a request that we make of them because we we underestimate the likelihood that they're willing to help you know we when we asked some of the help we we start to think about well think about all the costs going to incur financially or economically comically. If they if they try and help us. But as the recipient of requests for help we're much more likely to be thinking the social costs if we say no to them so oftentimes and what happens is you know. We underestimate others likelihood to help us and so you know the key takeaway here is actually ask for help law. It's likely to become much much more forthcoming that we perhaps the my ourselves seem into. There's certain situations where it works. Well in in certain situations doesn't what are the SCITUATE. Certain situations where vulnerabilities is actually very powerful tool to convey a message. And when is it not yet so I think so. This is a study actually. That was a couple years ago guy from Harvard. Who put Some of his researches into a situation of vulnerability and the situation affordability he put them into was in a long line at places where people McEwen often people are angry and just like get frustrated impatience. I think airport lines security choose railway stations these kinds of things and and what he did was he. He essentially said okay. I want you to go up to people and ask them with A. They'd be willing to let you in front of the line. Would you bet in front of the line McKay and I what. He's offer them money and we want to kind of walk out. What the optimum amount of money is that we should offer someone in order for them to let you cut in front of the line and you know no surprise to anyone that's studied economics in even on a basic level the more money the people offered the more likely that posted? That was all for the money to say. Yeah show you can go ahead of me. His the surprise no one ever took the money and and it seems that the money you know occupy ten dollars an twenty dollars. I'll give you fifty dollars was a signal of vulnerability so I I think this idea of vulnerability is most likely to be helpful is in specific situations of needs that are identifiable into fiber to an individual one of the reasons why what you see things like charity fundraising campaigns then might be many hundreds of thousands even millions of people that are in extreme conditions of need but a charity would never say because all the millions of starving children original look at all the hundreds of thousands of people that have been lost their homes because of this this hurricane or this typhoon or whatever it may be they tend to focus on an individual the identifiable individual context is is where the expression of vulnerability is going to be most helpful so those will be the context. I think we're vulnerabilities especially potent is if you can individualize and personalize the need of an individual. I think it was Stalin. That said you the death of one soldier is a tragedy the death of a million is a statistic and it sounds like to vulnerability can be a useful tool. It has like a technique or tactic to us. If you are a dominant or you have status in some way so we talked about competence. One way you can actually increase your competence. Even more is show show highlight in fact. Well you don't know everything and you take a little bit of humility towards yourself in the situation. I think you're right about that if that's actually I think think an immediate practical application here. That's so sometimes we're required to present you know. Maybe we're pitching for a new account. Always setting an idea and often are idea or what. We're pitching might have some drawbacks and I think a common mistake that we often make is to. You cut a squirrel. Those drawbacks those weaknesses in a product. Or an idea. We have you on the back of the powerpoint deck will sometimes. We don't even talk about the toll we wouldn't mention them then. No one will know about it. She find us a mistake. In fact if if we do have a drawback or weakness about a a proposition we have or presentation about to make and as long as it's not an insurmountable one. The evidence actually shows that you'd be much much more effective. If you position that vulnerability alert weakness as the very first thing. You say you know this proposition is is probably a little bit more expensive than you were expecting. But I'm in you. Follow that with hero. The advantages will the upside. So I think you're right bright you know that there. There is an opportunity and it can be used. Ethically ineffectively to use some of those vulnerabilities essentially to turn some of the weaknesses that we have into strengths so another soft left. Trade is charisma. And I think our idea of Christmas. It's mystical it's like either. Got It or you don't but what is your research say about that you can can re- charisma be developed By somebody it can in fact. Actually it's it's not just all research in fact it was it was I think about two thousand six hundred and seventy four years ago. The social scientific community coalesced and came to a consensus about what charisma was because we were all talking about charisma and when people say well what is age that what you just know. Oh you know when you see someone when you hear them you know that they have that charismatic quality but essentially what we find is that there are three things that the Charismatic Messenger has a the first is they have this ability to orientates they audience towards a common vision or goal. They're not speaking to. Do you know ten thousand individuals in an audience. They're speaking to one mind made up of ten thousand people that this is the direction. We're going his the unifying goal vision that we actually have and they're able to can vei DAD's unifying vision fuss. They they have that. The second thing they have is what. WE PSYCHOLOGISTS PSYCHOLOGISTS agency. So Jesse is this kind of enthusiasm this positively the and actually it comes across nonverbal behavior as well. There have been studies looking at Ted talks. For example a find is the. You can have a series of presenters at Ted and the talking about launching the same situational subject. So you know you may have to percents is talking about leadership. They've got good content. They got good good messages to deliver largely the same. But we find that those presenters that are likely to register more views news of their talk us about twice as many hand gestures as the comparable peers. Who perhaps less animated an so injecting that kind of sense of body and you know movement matching voice and words seems to be important so but not to the point where you gotta get crazy away your hands like a madman but those kind of well considered hand movements and gestures seem to be important in that instance instance and the third thing that charismatic messages have is an ability to think quickly and talk in metaphors? We used to think that was closely associated in the line to intelligence. We're we're not so sure now. We we actually just think that certain charismatic messages. Have ability to turn of phrase to use a metaphor to have like a quick thinking retorts and so all those three things that unifying vision surgency and quick thinking nece is what we've kind of essentially coalesced behind about definition of what a charismatic communicator. Is the idea of metaphor was interesting. I've never heard that before I've come across that in the research about charisma and you talk about World War Two leaders Franklin Roosevelt US lots of metaphors during his fireside chats during World War Two. Yeah if I actually this I I know a couple of such as the looked back on speeches given at presidential inaugurations negotiations and they find that presidents that US significantly more metaphors in their first inaugural speech all the ones most likely to serve a second time so what so. What's the the practical thing like? How do you figure out like okay? You're people have been listening to this okay. Hey there's some some situations where we're being hard messenger would be useful some situations soft messenger like how do you figure that out which approach to take. Yeah so so. I think there's a couple of things that we can think about that. So the first is what is the context of the situation. So you know if the situation is that there is uncertainty. You know you have a team team that you'll walk away the community or an organization. That's anxious you know. There's a lack of clarity about the direction. In those situations we do find that the the harder messenger the Messenger. That's able to kind of step forward and lead be the Mississippi always dominant but but has some kind of attractiveness quality or some sort of competence. That leads us to kind of what was metaphorically Cyrus Leaf and say right. Okay I can follow this person. So so in those instances adult teen or choosing. I think my also be important handwrite. Because you don't what saying that you should try. Let's be dominant if dominancy and you'll make up on your personality so so sometimes you know if we come up with an idea. We want to lead a group in a certain direction in one of the things money to do is actually say I may know will the information here. I might be the the person with the best content but I made the best messenger to deliver it so sometimes we might need to kind of a sign nine that juicy to another message. So he's uncertainty if we want to get some sort of action move people in a certain direction the harder type of characteristic typically Khalifeh's slightly better than the softer one in such situations. Where you know? We're kind of essentially trying to connect build longer term. Goals and relationships ships get alignment and especially when you know. Things are pretty good. You know you know the economy's doing well the happy. There is no fear anxiety than and those those software traits typically a likely to be more useful to you in those instances but invariably as you were talking earlier about not about Churchill which was about about to be Johnson that that ability to pivot between hard and soft and and build on what you can some of the skills you know. We can train people to be more charismatic you know we can be better convey or competence. We can certainly build trust with others more. We can learn to be warmer and to kind of in connect through similarities in an demonstrate open evidence. Those are things that we can all improvable and so having an array is going to be useful so see. There's been a great conversation. Where can people go to learn more about the book in your work well? The book is called messages. Who we listen to who we don't unwise available on all the bookstores in various formats? You know books. Paperback e Book Kindle. These kind of things. Felicitous are actually interested in intrigue to understand what type of messenger they all you know which of these traits it's is my preferred trade. We've actually developed me and Joe in a research team of a short test that you can take. It takes five minutes. It's entirely free. You can go to two messengers. The Book Dot Com. Follow the link to the take the test and in five minutes. You six seven questions and it will give you an appraisal of love what you'll primary messenger traits is and you'll secondary one and it will give you an indication of you know if you want to improve on your ability to communicate better more effective messenger. It gives you awesome insights about how to do that. I'll be a good place to go. I think fantastic will include that in our show notes as well. We'll Steve Martin. Thanks for your time. It's been a pleasure. Oh gracious hosts breath. Thanks for the invitation by Steve Martin. He's the author of the Book Messengers. Listen to WHO don't in Wi- to be able to Amazon Dot Com and bookstores everywhere. You can find out more about his work at his Website Messengers. The book dotcom retail. You take the quiz at. He talked about also checks. Show that dot is slash messengers revived links to resources. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1646: Farewell to 44

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Effectively Wild Episode 1646: Farewell to 44

"As a mobile go back this was wrong. Hello and welcome to episode. Sixteen point six of the festival. Wild behave baseball podcast from fan graphs presented by our patriot supporters. I am ben lindbergh up the wringer joined by meg rally of dangerous low. Collect so sad news on friday. We've been saying that far too often lately but in this case it is particularly true. Hank aaron henry errand as he preferred to be called died at age. Eighty six and really came as a shock. Even after the string of losses of hall of famers nine previous hell famers who had passed away since last april. And we've touched on all or most of them and they were all great losses to the game. But henry aaron is kinda class by himself among those greats even just to a great among the greats just one of those names that it's really hard to imagine baseball being without like you know on some level that one day there will be no henry. Aaron there will be no willie mays but until it actually happens. It's just hard to imagine because it's just such a pillar of the sport just sort of tied up so inextricably with it and when you learn about the game one of the first people you learn about him and his accomplishments and so to have that taken away it is just a sad day for him to begun although as always it's nice that his wife and legacy have prompted such an outpouring of appreciation. Yeah and i think we'll next week will try to have some guests on to help us do justice to his plan career in his life and his legacy and all the nuance and complexity to that but there are very few baseball reference pages that are as as starkly populated with black ink. As hank. aaron's they're they're so they're so few that just stand out in terms of their obvious magnificence and so. I think what we thought we would do. Today is to spend a little time on some of his statistical achievements. Because yeah. I think that you know for for any kind of baseball fan for a fan who comes to it with a historical appreciation for the game. Who enjoys the play on the field. Who enjoys the stats. He was just. He had something to offer to everyone because his play in his legacy was so spectacular. So i don't know ben. Do you have a favorite henry. Aaron stat or so many. It's hard to pick one. It's hard to pick just one young. My colleagues at cram at the just did a list of errand. Fun facts. Forty-five fun facts long through his number in sure that he could have kept going because he has one of those careers kind of abundant career. Where you could slice and dice the numbers and mind boggling really and the numbers are just part of the life but the numbers alone are so incredible. I mean we like advance stats around here. And maybe we'll mention some but aaron has the kind of career where you hardly need them the back of the baseball cards stats and the career counting stats. Tell the tale. He's at or close to the top of basically every important offensive leaderboard second most homers third most hits third most plate appearances. Most runs batted in most cases. Most extra base hits. There are more than seven hundred. Total bases between aaron and stan. Musial number two. That's bigger than the gap between mutual and carl yastrzemski. Who's in tenth place. He hit more often. He hit better than almost anyone else in history. And he did what he did largely in a pitcher's and partly in a pitcher's park so if you look at his neutralized stats and you put them in the context of twenty nineteen in an average park. His seven hundred fifty five home runs. Turn to eight twenty four and by the way if you do the same thing to barry bonds seven sixty two. They turned into eight. Oh two so. Aaron is kind of the context neutral homerun king. I think what stood out to me is that it's really hard to tell what his prime was. Usually you could just ipala players baseball reference page like don sutton who i was talking about and looking up the other day. When he passed away he had a great career like errand he played forever. He was good for a long time hall of famer. But when you look at don sutton's page not just the blacking but the the blue ink. The hyperlinked text on the side. Where baseball reference tells you you know. Awards voting and all star appearances. And that sort of thing with sutton. It's all clustered within a six season span. Essentially the only times that he was getting votes or making all star teams. And so you can say oh well. That was his prime. That was the peak and with aaron. You just can't do that because there's blue ink for his entire career and there's no point at which he was not making all star teams or getting mvp votes. It was just constant. It was twenty one star selections. I guess twenty five games because there were years with multiple games but other than his rookie year when he was twenty or the very end of his career when he was forty two those were the times he was not an austerity. It's just incredible. It's unbelievable that he was able to stay at such a high level for so long. That obviously much has been made of him breaking babe. Ruth's home run record both as a baseball achievement. And then the social context in which that occurred and the threats he endured ends just the the fear that followed him all along that chase. But i think that one of the things about him and home runs that is the most striking is just how consistent he is he did not have sort of infamously he did not have a fifty home run season but he had eight forty home runs and he had fifteen seasons in which he hit thirty or more home runs which i think is still tied for the most ever. So it's just. I think that we often make this distinction mental distinction when we look at players careers between of excellence inconsistency and the players who are truly able to marry those things over the course of their careers are very very rare and. I don't know that anyone should have lived up to that marriage of talent more than he did. Just because it is so it is just. He played for such a long time. He played for such a long time at such a high level that you are sometimes surprised by the thanks that he didn't managed to do with hit fifty and a season. But then you realize that. There's no shame in that. Look at all the time right. Yeah right the fifty homer fun fact. You hear that all the time and it is impressive. That he didn't hit fifty in any single season. Still got to seven fifty five but a yes. It is a compliment because it says something about his consistency and the fact that he was so good for so long but it also places the emphasis on something that he didn't do. Maybe if someone were to hear that they would think that he didn't have truly spectacular single seasons or that he was some kind of compiler like he was. You know very good for a long time but not the greatest than any one year but of course he was he was elite. Even if he didn't have fifty homers he did everything else really well so he had speed. I mean people remember him. Maybe as an older player because he played for so long and a lot of the highlights of him breaking records come when he was an older guy in down but when he was younger he had speed he was a a great base runner. A base stealer. At times he was a great fielder. He won three gold gloves in a row and probably would have one more. If not for willie. Mays and roberto clemente. He remained a really excellent fielder for pretty much of his career. So even though he's remembered as a right fielder in his twenties he played a lot of center and he even played some second base and third base and he actually started out as an infielder. He was the mvp of sally league in nineteen fifty three as a second baseman on his rookie card as a big leaguer he's fielding a grounder at second base and based on his performance at second in his brief bigly time there. It seems like he could have been a good big league second baseman. So imagine if the guy who broke bay bruce all time homerun record had been a middle infielder. It could have happened but he moved to the outfield. Because milwaukee's leftfielder. Bobby thompson broke his ankle in spring. Training and erin could play outfield to. He could do it all and he wasn't just a home. run hitter. He hit for average he won a couple batting titles he took walks. He ended up with more walks than strikeouts in his career. Which when you think about the fact that he broke the all time homerun record and a guy who was walking more often than he was striking out. Boy it is just really an incredible career and the fact that he had no off years really relative to his standard he. Did i suppose but he never really missed a year. I mean he never had an injury that cost him most of the season and so he was able to put up these incredible numbers and just on a rape basis was incredible to like if you look at his. Wrc plus in his twenty s. It was one fifty five which is amazing in his thirty s. It was one sixty he had. You know a hall of fame career in his twenties and then another hall of fame career after. That was an even better hitter after that. If not the around player that he had been early in his career so they're only so many ways you can say how amazing an unbelievable it was but it's just a career like no other really and he was overshadowed somewhat during his career as a celebrity by mickey mantle. Willie mays his new york. Times obits says aaron did not enjoy the idolatry accorded the yankees mickey mantle or match the exuberance and electric presence of the giants willie mays his outfield contemporaries and rivals for acclamation as the greatest ballplayer in major league. History and erin acknowledged that he said if they had a choice of who they wanted to break babe. Ruth's record it would have been mickey mantle. I mickey was like marilyn monroe. He didn't have to be the greatest ballplayer. He had that charisma yankees had all those pennants and about as he said. It's just not my way to be flashier. Flamboyant the way say willie is i have my own even rhythm and i guess it just doesn't attract the kind of attention than a more colorful style does and it's true. That mason mental had better individual seasons than errand did but mental head injuries and didn't take care of himself like erin and erin is really right there with willie and with bonds as the best post integration players. Yeah i was. I was reading zacks piece in preparation for this. And also just to be able to appreciate aaron's legacy even more and he hit three sixty two four thirty one six forty seven against sandy colfax. What in the world. He hit three forty two three ninety. Five six thirty against steve carlton he had more home. Runs off bob gibson than anyone than any other. Right hander blake. It's just you can do this. For for barry bonds like the fact that sam has some time cited about like barry bonds against cy young winners and he hit credibly well against them. But when you're talking about bonds does come with a caveat it comes with a you know y right. At least when you're talking about the entire his career or the latter part of his career right whereas with arid there's just nothing to taint it at all so it's just nothing detracts from the numbers. They are what they are yeah. I think that you'd be hard pressed to find a place in his statistical record where you had anything that you say. That was all the negative. It's a pretty spectacular thing and it's funny to to have this feeling about a player who was never lucky enough to get to see play. But i just have a really hard time imagining the baseball world without him. I think that there are. There are a lot of all time greats. Who i wish i could go back in time and buy a ticket and sit in the ballpark but He has to be at the very top. If not the top of the leaderboard when it comes to that we'll just never be able to really say enough positive things about his playing career and that's before we even consider the the legacy left both for future generations of players and you know off the fields so we will have much more about henry. Aaron in the we'd take on but it is a really sad day for baseball. I wish That we had fewer of these. You knew he wasn't gonna live forever. But i don't like it was just a couple of weeks ago that we saw pictures of him. Getting his co. vaccine is clear that he understood the importance of encouraging people to both take the pandemic seriously to get vaccinated if they have the opportunity. So it's very much a presence in the baseball world and in american culture more generally still and for him not being here anymore. So i'm bummed spagna. Bad day yeah neo. Pain wrote about his consistency at five. Thirty eight and he put it in terms of war. And i think he was using a blended fan crafts and baseball reference war. But it's not too different if you look at either or he had nineteen consecutive seasons of four or more war and that's an all-star season essentially and he did that nineteen years in a row of no wonder he was an all star every year. No one else's ever done it for that many years in a row he had seventeen consecutive five plus four seasons again. No one else's ever done that. He had fifteen consecutive six plus four seasons. No one else's ever done that. So i've seen six four season. That's like that can be an mvp ear certain years. It certainly makes you an mvp contender and he did it year in and year out. That's how you get. Mvp votes in nineteen consecutive seasons. That's long enough for the game to change completely for a whole new generation of players to come in and even so he was still one of the best. And it's interesting if you look at like the shape of his career and the way that he produced that value. And this was something that metra budd wrote about at baseball prospectus. Last year drawing on howard. Bryant's great biography of aaron last hero early in his career that was when erin won a couple batting titles and he had these springy. You whip like that you always hear about and strong and could just hit for a hit line drives and he always hit for average to a certain extent. It's not like he became. Adam donner anything. He was hitting three hundred at age thirty nine but he was a really high average hitter earlier in his career. That's why people say you know you take away off his homers and he still in the three thousand hits club which is impressive. How many he hit but he sort of changed to an extent like midway through his career and became even more of a home. Run hitter after that and probably a better hitter overall as i mentioned and it seems to have had multiple causes one. Was that the braves moved from a walkie to atlanta. He is playing suddenly in fulton county stadium which was more of a home run park especially after sixty nine i think they changed some dimensions or fences and it was known as the launching pad and so that helped him his pursuit of the homerun record and turned him into more of a home. Run hitter but also it was apparently a conscious thing and aaron heads notice that the home run race between roger marris and mickey mantle in sixty one that got a ton of attention and that may have made him more homer conscious and more intentional homerun hitter and had sort of a horrendous and started pulling the bomber and hitting it out in front of the plate. More aaron was on the home derby. Tv show. He said they never had a show called singles derby. That's interesting i think. Because that's something you hear about bonds to how he was motivated by the race between mcgwire and sosa and those guys got all the attention and suddenly he was like. Hey i'm barry bonds pay attention to me. What he did of course was Start taking stuff. That could help him. Hit more homers. What aaron did was just changes mechanics and his swing again. No dark side to that. But that seemed to make him an even better hitter with an approach that was possibly better suited to his skills later in his career and maybe catapulted him into the pursuit of the record which you would have been an all time great player in hitter regardless but if he had not made that change. If the ballpark had not changed it might not be part of his legacy. I don't know it's an interesting kind of alternate history and he considered retiring when he still had a lot left. He hit his five hundredth homer in the sixty eighth season and then he turned thirty five before the following season he was starting to feel his age a little bit and he said he started considering retirement but there is a baseball writer named lee allen who interviewed him and talk to him about all the milestones that he could achieve and erin said later to somebody like me. Having come along in a period when black players were only beginning to assume their rightful place in baseball the chance to make history sounded like something worth pursuing with all of my resources and so he stuck it out even though the home run chase was health for him and he finished the seventy three season sitting on seven thirteen so he had the whole winter to dread the resumption of that chase but it took awhile for him to be seen as someone who could be the homerun king because before he made that change. Maze was seen as the more likely candidate to break. Ruth's record and erin was seen as a threat to break. Ty cobb's career hits mark. So he was almost like two different kinds of incredible all-time hitter two different kinds of hall of famers. I mean we could go on and as you said we will want to talk to someone who can give us more insights into his life but we were talking earlier this week about how hard it is to know from afar or even up close what someone is really like and how you see all these testimonials about how so and so is such a great guy or better person than a ballplayer. And sometimes it's true. Sometimes there's something unsavory under the surface and with aaron. I think you can be as confident as you can with anyone that he was a great person not just the things he said but the things he did he was just the best ambassador for baseball and group he was a part of it is telling i think that even after all the rave reviews that we just gave his playing career that's like part of his legacy with anyone else who had those stats like what could possibly eclipse that or equal that. But you see it in his obituaries. You know it's almost like there's too much to cram into that first sentence like the the first sentence of the obituaries supposed to sum up the person's entire life and with him they're like some borderline run on sentences. Big ass just like. How do you fit of this. They're like the washington post's opening sentences. Hank aaron one of the greatest players in baseball history comma. Who smashed bay bruce all time home run record in defiance of threats to his life comma and who used his hall of fame baseball career as it platform to champion civil rights comma died january twenty second at eighty six. It's like you have to get all of that in there you know. Yeah you can't just say he's the guy who broke the all time home run record. That would stand alone for just about anyone else. But like i can't think of anyone among like great athletes twentieth century whose accomplishments are as great as his. They always go hand in hand or are equipped spy his field accomplishments. Who he was. As a person the example he set as sort of a civil rights icon. I guess muhammad ali would be maybe the the best comp and elise said of aaron the only man. I idolized more than myself. So that's a pretty good complement to. Yeah we would. We would never want to divorce him from the the context in which he lived in the time in which he lives in. I think that the obits that we've seen pay tribute to that. I think the best ones are keen to not confused. His endurance with sort of a perseverance through circumstance. That has to be applauded on its own. He didn't really have much of a choice and managed anyhow and. I think that there's a really important conversation to have about that. You know the first line of howard brian. so i think is striking one. Henry aaron who rose from the dead so southern poverty to become one of the towering figures in baseball history as well as a bittersweet symbol of both american racial intolerance and triumph has died. He was eighty six so he can't be wrenched from his time. Nor should we want to but it was a very full life. And i think one that we're all said to have seen ended even if eighty sixes ripe old age. Yeah in the last hero. Bryant wrote henry had never considered himself as important a historical figure as jackie robinson and yet by twice integrating the south. I in the sally league and later as the first black star on the first major league team in the south during the apex of the civil rights movement no less his road in many ways was no less lonely and in other ways far more difficult and that was obviously a part of his entire life and career growing up in the south during segregation playing the in the south as a black player when he did and starting as a professional player in the negro leagues. And it's sometimes said that he was the last negro leagues player to break into the majors which is not the case. There were others after him but he was the last former negro league player to still be playing in the major leagues because he lasted for so incredibly long lasted everyone else. So yet. that's Something that we'd like to get into more next week. But i think that there's sort of an image of him as the you know very gracious stoic person who is just bearing up under of this hatred and he did have that quiet dignity and reserve and gentlemen leanness and kindness but peeve was very outspoken and very frank at times to some of the quotes. You read from him it. It's not as he was just suffering through this in silence. He was not at all reluctant to speak out. He did not mince words when it came to calling out racism and prejudice faced. So i i don't know if it's just that everyone remembers the image of him rounding the bases when he hit seven fifteen and he's been facing death threats and then suddenly fans are storming the field. You know white fans accompanying him around the bases and they were doing it out of celebration and you know slapping on the back. But he didn't necessarily know if that is the case given the ugliness of the letters that had been sent to him and so he just rounded the bases. he didn't deck them or anything. And so maybe that is why people think of him as just this figure who is just kind of plotting forward bravely but stoically of this but he was very active and outspoken as in the realm also also just like as a charitable figure as an therapists wasn't given an opportunity to manage was snubbed in that respect like a lot of his contemporaries but became a trail-blazing executive as a black man in baseball. Just kind of a an icon in every possible respect in his hall of fame speech. He said it was always this player in that player. And then henry aaron but now i think i'm appreciated. I never wanted them to forget babe. Ruth i just wanted them to remember henry errand and i think it's safe to say that they will. Yeah all right so we will talk more about aaron next week for now. We have an interview that we had been planning about baseball cards. Baseball cards are back somewhat to my surprise baseball cards are popular than ever. There is another baseball card. Boom going on that has been prompted in part by the pandemic but really had begun already and we wanted to get into why this is happening. And how the hobby of baseball card collecting is different from how it was back in the eighties or nineties. So do that. We are going to talk to. Joe larry uncovers baseball cards for prospects live and we'll be back in just a moment with hall all big time game as bring out the big strikeouts in cold front wheel drinking now rested and play by play on top. Satiric rod to that ballpark in the sky. Dream the kit. Shaw the crime way. Back imam who spoke to see things were going well. A nineteen fifty. Two toss mickey mantle card sold the record. Five point two million dollars earlier this month. That's the most spent on any single baseball card yet but that is just one sign one symptom. Perhaps of a larger search that is happening in card collecting world. Not just baseball cards. But this is the baseball podcast. So that's what we'll be focusing on mostly today and because it has been awhile since we have collected cards actively we are bringing on someone who is very much plugged into this world and can tell us about all of the latest trends and y twenty twenty was such big year for the popularity of baseball cards and his name is joe larry. He covers baseball cards. for prospects. live dot com joe. Welcome any thanks for having me. So what is your origin story as a card collector and expert. Is this something that you got into his kid and have been doing continuously ever since sensor did you go away for a while and come back. What got you into it. What keeps you into it. yeah you know. It's a pretty standard story that you hear Nowadays which is. I was a kid during the eighties and so i was collecting in what we call the junk quacks era where i don't think the card manufacturers ever stopped the printing presses for all. I know they're still permitting. Nineteen ninety tops baseball cards right now. So you know. I kind of got towards my teen years and my attentions drifted in many different directions girls school sports and all that stuff and so that along with just sports card world. Kind of imploding on itself In the early nineties. I i kind of walked away and not until roughly the twenty seventeen timeframe um which saw a huge surge of interest in the card baseball card industry specifically Did it really dragged me back in and that was kind of happening. Because of aaron judge and that was aaron judge was his rookie card year and so the interest and the influx of money And just the you know super size personality of aaron judge it just really brought a lot of people back in and it roped me as well and so i've kind of been back in to getting my feet wet and learning about the card industry as it stands today since about twenty seventeen and just my nature. I really kind of had a laser focus on learning all of the stuff that i can learn about it and go on to all the resources and really digging in and over the last year or so. I've just got the opportunity to kind of spread that knowledge and kind of pay it forward towards what the collectors who were helping me along. When i got back into it few years ago you got into it a couple of years ago and you said that it was picking up year and i imagine as you've written that cova disrupted the card collecting market just like it disrupted everything else. So what are some of the trends that have emerged over the last year as people have responded to to cove it. I know that. I've had friends in my sort of extended circle. Who have dusted off old boxes. Full of cards as they've run out of things to watch on netflix. So what is the market as it. Currently stands is there a lot of demand. Is there a lot of supply. Where where are we in terms of collecting. Yeah it's twenty twenty and and it keeps going is into twenty. One is like nothing we've ever seen a nabi as you're saying folks were dusting off their old collections as their kind of foreign florentine that home and saying oh i wonder if these cards were worth any money and then they start looking up on major marketplaces mostly bango. Wow this is worth a lot of money. And i wonder what other things are out there that are going on now. There was a definite supply issue earlier in twenty twenty and that along with people coming back to the hobby along with you know some stimulus money pumped in back in the spring and early summer drove the demand to levels. We've never seen so lack of supply injection of money in injection of new collectors injection of collector's coming back to the hobby. And then you know there's other folks as well that are have popularity in various areas that are also bringing people into the collection Baseball card collecting hobby. We've got gary banner. Chuck he's got a pretty big presence. We've got xml beers like phil hughes Who has started up his own youtube channel and he opens cards. Talks about cars on his channel He posts videos almost on a daily basis and he gets a huge amount of views on those again bringing people into the industry so this along with some trends earlier in the year where one of the kind of hottest prospects to be signed and to finally get cards On the yankees. Jackson dominguez really drove You know he's a yankee he's got all the hype. There's a lot of mystery because we just haven't seen him play which again kobe impacted. Typically you don't get to see what these prospects do and then some kind of on their face And the kind of demand for their cards goes down. Well if you don't see how they're doing then the mystery remains and people are still kind of doing that. Speculating thing when it comes to prospects. And so you had just a whole confluence of factors that led to the spring. Really driving the demand crazy crazy crazy and it just really hasn't let up now baseball's a bit of a cyclical market in that in the off season. It tends to die down for two three months but it really only lasted about four weeks this time around late november december and it's the demand is is again going pretty high and there's it's typically a downtime for the manufacturers as well they don't put out a lot of product and so again if you have compounding factors where there's not a lot of product on the market new product coming out so again people anything that comes out people are just buying up and you know. The cell. Resellers are making money hand over fist. I mean it is like i said something. We'd never seen nabi dominguez's actually kind of what spurred by an it to wonder what the state of the car collecting market was. Because i imagine that as you said guys who had debuted stateside would have been sort of priority targets for card collectors if there had been something like a normal minor league season. But we just didn't have a real opportunity to see that obviously travel was difficult for some of the international guys but just generally. I'm curious on the prospect side in particular. What tends to drive the value. There is it where guys ranked on some of the major sites. Is it existing minor league statistics sort of general perception within the industry. I know you mentioned dominguez. Being a yankee having a significant impact there and giving him a bump but what. What drives the value in that part of the market in particular it's Prospecting is is quite an interesting place. And it's you typically refer to collectors who focus on prospects. Ask prospectors right and doing the activity prospecting. And there's so many factors not team has won for the j. Two siamese right at the international signings. It's definitely the guys who get the most money are on everyone's radar dominguez. Was that guy another one robert possesion this time around for these days to sign as they usually don't have cards for us to purchase for the most part until a year or two after their signings. So right dominguez wasn't signing. I believe in the nineteen period and so didn't really get an opportunity to to get any of his cards until the spring. And then you know when it comes to the domestic side right. It's the the draft right so you. You're hottest car on the marketplace right now Because he just came out with this first official card officially licensed card with spencer right. The number one overall pick and his cards are the hottest commodity on the market right now and then again like you said people doing their research going to look at the prospect list. You know the top one hundred list. The team boards places like where i write for prospects live where you guys are at with eric long in fan graphs baseball america all those types of places and getting kind of you know everyone loves to look at comps as much as that's not easy or realistic you. You look at a guy and say well. Is this the next mike trout. And then you go well. How much are mike trump card selling for. And then i think that guy's gonna be worth somewhere in that neighborhood and that's kind of where they try and you know find values based off who they comp these players to. It's a lot of that it. there's just. Those are a lot of the driving factors when it comes to prospect specifically so we want to ask you a little bit about cars. Collecting has changed and how it has entered the internet age. But before we get to that for anyone who like you like me was away for awhile. Remembers cards as they were in the eighties or the nineties. Can you talk a little bit about. Just how the cards have changed physically. How do they look different. The information on them the number of manufacturers you know the quantity of cards because that fled of the market that you mentioned earlier was something that contributed to the crash in the mid ninety s. And so i'm wondering now with another card boom going on whether the people behind that we'll be able to resist that temptation to try to cash in and then we'd to another bust to follow the boom so if people have been away from card collecting for while how are baseball cards. The actual physical products and i know some of them may be digital and virtual products as well. But how have the cards themselves evolved. Yeah it's quite interesting and the manufacturers tend to say that. They've learned their lessons from the junk wax era. And at times you you kind of them but other actions they take. It makes it more difficult to believe that every year. You'll see they don't really tell you what the print runs are on each of these products that they produce but you can do the math based off of the odds that they Stay on Products and you see year to year over the last five years or so you. You're seeing anywhere from ten to twenty percent. If not more increase in the product run per product so it it is a bit scary there and back in the eighties and prior to to that you had essentially one set of baseball cards per manufacturer you had tops baseball score baseball. Don ross baseball and up until the late two thousands or early twenty tens. It was kind of a free for all as far as who about to have licensed products. And what they can make and Essentially around that time these Sports the mlb nfl nba. All them they went to exclusive licenses with these companies and they lay down some laws you know in these contracts now. None of them are public but It's been inferred and talk about that. Essentially they can only make x. Amount of products per year. So you can only have say twenty different types of Tops can only make twenty different types of tops baseball products such as they'll make product called gypsy queen. Don't make a product called in something that you may remember from the early nineties. If you're still collecting back then stadium club. So there's a wide variety of these products that are targeting kind of specific markets. Whether it's people who are into the stars people who into the rookies people who are into the prospects. So they kind of focus on those areas and then and then within those they'll do varying types of card stock so typically what we're used to back then was just the paper card stock now. They've gone and used some Newer technologies where. They'll have a chrome finish on cards. Which is by far the most popular type of products out. There are the chrome products. Also have one that use kind of acetate bio which is more of a clear Plastic e type of card. And then i'd say in baseball specifically player signed cards. The autograph cards that come from the manufacturer are the rage. That's what everyone's chasing and up until nineteen ninety or ninety one with upper deck. That didn't exist. You know and then that was kind of a marketing ploy that they used Back in. I think it was ninety. Ninety one was something new but it wasn't everywhere and now it's everywhere in every product there. You're not gonna find baseball product. That doesn't have somebody on the checklist that has signed the card bef- for gets packed in the product and sent out for sale. And that's you know one of the things that they say is preventing kind of the junk wax era style crash because the that point those cars were all pretty much became there was no value. Left them 'cause there were so many of them but they say you know there's only x. amount of autographs in each product so that in theory will protect the value of these cards in the future where they're not all worthless and is there any value in cards that end up getting signed on the back end right. The don't that are just playing cards. Come out of the pack and you know folks lineup at the backfield's at spring training or along the foul lines in a major league park and get a player to sign it live. Is there any process. By which those can be authenticated and then resold or should people just relax and enjoy spring training. I would say they should relax and enjoy spring training but the reality is is that there are plenty of people out there that are doing this not just for their own personal enjoyment and personal collection to get somebody to sign a card or ball or whatnot. And they're they're trying to increase the value of the part and so it is done and it does increase the value of the car. It in most circles it. It does not approach the value of and signed card that comes from the product itself. Now there are services out there grading companies authenticating companies that will authenticate players signature. They'll also grade the quality of the card on a number scale about you. Know if there's ben corner off centered. Cards miss cards. All all number of things that they're looking at is their surface scratches etc so these companies tend to offer various on the big ones in industries. Company called psa another one. His beckett If you remember way back in the day we used to use the becca gar guides to to find the prices of our cars. I mean that was the only way to do it really back then whereas today you know the the internet age right and the major marketplace being ebeid. The becca guides have kind of lost their immediacy the and the accuracy around pricing of cards. So yeah people still get it. Signed people still resell them either. Prior to without having these companies authenticate them which brings less money less return or having them authenticated and it will increase the value. But like i said it doesn't At least as far as the marketplace is concerned reach value of the pre signed and then sent in the product to the marketplace and one more factor behind the present popularity of cards is that cards. Collecting is maybe more of an engaging spectator activity than it used to be. Thanks to the internet and friend of the show. Bechari wrote a great article about breaking baseball cards and baseball card sets for sports illustrated last year. We will link to that but you have written about that to tell us about breaking. Yeah breakings been around for quite a while actually but it feels like over the last five years. It's gotten really popular then as this boom happened. I have personally had fellow collector start their own breaking groups just because of the amount of demand for it and essentially the idea is that as more and more of these products come out and they're harder and harder to get a hold of you find various price points and you know one box. Has they want autograph in it. But if somebody buys a case you've got ten boxes you got ten autographs and a boxes a hundred bucks. A case of ten boxes thousand bucks. Well i'm not gonna have that thousand bucks to buy a case. But i might have one hundred dollars and i like those cards but i don't wanna kind of by my box and get an auto for a pitcher for the dodgers. Because i'm a giants fan right. I you know. I don't want only gone someone autograph i'd much prefer to get you know all the giants don't have good pitchers right now. But you know. I'd rather have like a buster posey autograph for my guest stransky autograph or something like that right so what that allows me to do if i participate in a break where. Somebody's breaking. Ten boxes of cards is to then target the teams that i'm interested in that product and hopefully get all of the giants cards and perhaps some a few other teams for my hundred bucks and hopefully giants autograph card. The mike yastrzemski autographed card in that product. And so i didn't have to make that thousand dollar investment you know and what happens nowadays. Is they Not only have you know. Just a regular card signed by mike yastrzemski they have different parallels of it. So they'll have a card. That's platinum card. That's worn out of one. They'll have a red card. That's got only five numbered version so you get your rarity and you get much more value. If you're looking to at the end of the day so those cards at some point so you know it it. It definitely is a form of gambling. But it's also a way to get into the products that you might not have shot up because of their cost or just focus on the teams that you really want to get out of a product rather than ending up with five hundred cards and you really only wanted you know twenty five of them because that's how many giants cards are in there. Now that you've noted in some of your writing on the issues that are specific to the twenty twenty. And i guess still twenty twenty one card sets that there were some quality control issues so there were cards. That were set. That would be packaged as promising an autograph card. That wouldn't have won. That were off center. Miss cut i know that. A lack of an autograph isn't going to increase a card's value. But i'm curious if there have been other instances in the past manufacturing errors like that which i imagine her ear tasting to the hobbyist. End up making the cards valuable because they denote particular time and a rarity that might otherwise be sort of unremarkable for run of the mill card. Yeah it really depends and that's kind of a cop out answer. I know but the manufacturers nowadays because of the situation because how much they're printing how much they're making that. There's very little situations where we have like. The you know back in eighty nine flare with with the billy ripken situation where he had some off. Color words on the end of his bat and clear released three or four different versions of that card. We're trying to fix it. So nowadays the manufacturers. They're not interested in correcting those errors. So typically the value in error card is when it's being corrected because the original error card itself will in the past had a smaller print run and made it rarer. Nowadays it doesn't happen now occasionally. There'll be scenarios where you know as i was saying earlier there's parallel cards right and so just in this. Most recent release of bowman draft. There's a parallel called the sky blue parallel and it's out of four ninety nine and so they'll print on the card itself this card one out of four ninety nine ten out of four ninety nine. Well there's a specific number. I don't think anyone's figuring out yet. Where instead of printing the actual number whether it was a glitch in the software or the printing press or whatever instead of saying a hundred out of four ninety nine. It says bad out of four ninety nine. That's specific parallel out of four. Nine nine for you get one per player of that that one actually sells for you know normally would probably sell for a buck or two for the run of the mill players. Maybe five to ten bucks for the spencer torkelsson zach beans and those types of guys. It's selling for five to fifteen bucks for the run of the mill guys in twenty five bucks up for the you know highly desirable so you. That's why i say it depends for the most part really doesn't increase the value. But you'll have those exceptions so you talked about breaking. Can you tell us about sort of the subset of breaking that is known as the box war. Yeah boxers are the highest stakes form of breaking out there right now. Where the stakes. Are you either win on the cards or you'll lose all the cards and the idea is that you usually want to find a box that has an autograph or a specific Parallel that you're going after you don't want product that's just all base cards. It makes a lot more difficult. The idea is that. I'll buy a box or pay for a box and then then you'll pay for a box again. Same example i'll i'll put up one hundred bucks for that box and you'll put up a hundred bucks for a second box. And then the breaker will open them up and the important card has been decide beforehand. Is that one autograph in each of those boxes. And so we'll what we'll do is whoever that autograph is say. I get the mike yastrzemski auto and you get a mike trout auto and then we'll go to ebay as the kind of defacto marketplace and and see what the previous sales of that card is essentially trying to look for the most recent trying to judge the current market. And say was the mike yastrzemski autograph card worth more than the mike trout or vice versa. And it's going to be the mike trump card and so once that's decided the person who has the more valuable card essentially wins all the cards and the person who doesn't lost their hundred bucks and goes home empty-handed interesting so one thing. I'm curious about is that card collecting. Got a lot of us into baseball or helped. Get us into baseball. Need helped make us fans the sorts of things that you're talking about. That are closer to gambling. I am assuming that that tends to be mostly adult sir who are already into card collecting or baseball or maybe are getting back into it. After a certain time although not necessarily entirely sure is there still potential for this latest boom in baseball cards to create new fans. Do you see that happening or does it seem to be established fans who are gravitating to this. Yeah it's a tough question. I think for the most part the folks that are getting into it now that are attracted to the gambling aspect of it the breaking aspect of it the speculation aspect of it where they can buy card for five dollars and it's worth one hundred and three months or get into a break for a hundred bucks and ended up with a car. That's worth a thousand dollars. I think a lot of those people that are there for that type of a rush aren't going to be there When the bull market goes whichever way it goes on its downtrend a linear suddenly or a complete black friday style drop off. I don't know we're at the peak. But it kind of feels like it. And i and i don't think that a lot of those people that have gotten into it for like i said that rush are gonna be there after the fact and unfortunately i think it's also driven away some of the longtime collectors because basically priced out of the hobby Or and or just. Don't want to deal with trying to get new cards. Because they're so hard to get so i think there is the small percentage that will say. Hey i've got this peak crow armstrong card now and i didn't know who he was and now i'm going to follow him and now i'm a fan for life of pekar armstrong because i love this card and i love his story or something like that but in the largest sense i don't think it's going to significantly create new baseball fans. Unfortunately is there anything. I suppose it from the manufacturer's perspective once once the card has been sold. You know it's hard for them to to necessarily know it's being sold to one individual or if it's someone who's trying to act like an investor in sort of use to buy inventory or what have you but has there been anything Don on the part of card manufacturers to try to short circuit that aspect of the market so that they might make it a little more accessible to true hobbyists. I'd like to say yes. But i don't think i've really seen anything more than token efforts in in that way You know the the best thing that they can do. Typically is to offer a wide variety of products and a cheap enough level of products that doesn't attract the speculators the investors the flippers. And there. there is some of that but the these are pretty much companies. Unfortunately more focused on their bottom line and they're focused on the health of the hobby. Like i said i there. There's some lip service there. I just feel like it's lip service and not not true efforts being made and i know that you focus on baseball cards. But how much of what you've told us applies to other kinds of card collecting. Having i've seen some record numbers that have gone to pokemon cards sales for instance. Recently i assume that other sports cards are enjoying some sort of boost from this. Of course baseball cards have always occupied a special place in the landscape. And i assume that continues to be true. Is this a broader thing that applies to many kinds of card collecting or does baseball card correcting still reigned supreme. I think in general baseball card collecting is in the. You know it's kind of like baseball is america's sport right. It's it's like apple pie right So it definitely hold still kinda holds that place in the us marketplace when it comes to the international marketplace. It's kind of a different story right. You'll you'll still have the you know. The asian markets especially japan and korea. Cards are still strong there as well but china is basketball card up and down there. It's just unbelievable. How hot they are. In general basketball cards have gone kind of in on the stratospheric rise. Football cards are definitely in the conscience at the forefront of everyone's mind during the football season right now. They've been pretty strong Quarterbacks drive the marketplace and when these young fresh new quarterback succeed justin. Herbert had one of the best seasons ever for a rookie quarterback in the football cards really well. And then when the quarterbacks don't do well move football cards don't do so well and poke him on his been an eye. Opener is really kind of mirrored the basketball rise where wasn't much in the consciousness of The general public and then all of a sudden you know it's gone crazy and it was a bit past my time. I know my brother. Who's eight years younger than i am. He collected them. And i was telling him about and he's just like i can't. I can't believe that he's like. I played with these cards. So they're all beat up and there probably worth nothing. I'm like no. They're actually still probably worse. Something and and you know they i think. Part of that is that that age group that was playing with it You know the late twenties to mid thirties. Kinda group is in positions. Where where they're actually you know no longer working minimum wage jobs. Where were they have spending cash and as this you know boom started. They said well. I wasn't in baseball cards because there wasn't even hardly any baseball cards to collect. And then you know mid to late nineties barely early any product and no one was talking about him but every all my friends and i were playing pokemon and so now they've got money and they're like man. I really wish. I had some of those spoken on cards that i had when i was a kid and not just the ones that i have still. They're all beat up. I'd like really nice. Ones and suddenly is like i said quite eye opening how popular they are and the value that they're currently at. I wonder what those the price craft on a dwayne haskins football cards like after this year. Not good so sleep. Published an article in november. That was titled. Why would anyone bother collecting digital baseball cards. And then these sub head answers the headlines questioned it's a heady blend of the style jet the thrill of opening a new pack and a crypto currency investment opportunity. So there you go. But i'm still going to ask you to enter that question. So is this something that is kind of come to the fore in the last decade digital cards app based cards and i'm sure that a lot of people who remember sorting through cards or putting them in this spokes of their bicycle wheel or whatever are taken aback by the idea of digital baseball cards card. Collecting has been such a tackle thing for a lot of people. The look of them the feel of them the smell of them but of course mir's a lot of the ways that we consume things in this day and age. And maybe you don't buy an album anymore. You just stream it and we own less of the things that we watch and enjoy in sort of physical form then we do and maybe that's not bad. Maybe it's just different but nostalgia is a strong force so for anyone who thinks oh. I can't imagine having digital baseball cards and not being able to put them in a binder or whatever and look at them on a page. Can you explain the appeal. I asked myself that question regularly It's it's interesting. It's you know i'm actually you. My day. job is kind of in the tech industry. And so i look at that and i i understand it and but at at the end of the day i see behind the scenes and and basically it's looking at while you're just getting a personalized piece of code right and i i can sit here and write code for you all day but it seems a little opposite the actual mindset of owning these pieces of code. That are customized with you know. This one's this piece of code. I rinse called. You know mark maguire. This one's called my my trial. This one's call griffey junior. And and so i've struggled with seeing the appeal of that marketplace on the other hand you know i think there's a place for it. I would just be cautious about it. Because i i don't think people completely understand what it means to be in that space. If you're doing it for fun all more power to you. I know. I've played video games. And i've been like i want this. You know like in fort night. I want this coup hang glider. that looks like You know spaceship right. And i'm gonna pay a dollar for that to increase my enjoyment of flying this game but on the other hand you know when in three years when maybe no one's playing fortnight that dollar i spent worth nothing now right and so because we have such just long history and kind of tradition to go off of with the cards that are physical and we know what that's going to be like and we know there's going to be ups and downs but we still understand it just the same with cryptocurrency the same with these digital cards. It's just such a new marketplace that has so many unknowns that i would caution people to if they're using it from an investment standpoint To speculate to be really careful really do your homework. Really understand what you're getting into and you re you know it's something we rarely if ever do but read the terms and conditions. Because i've read some of the terms and conditions for for some of these things and and they're quite laughable so a lot of what you've laid out probably sounds intriguing to people. It might also sound daunting to them. If they have been away from this happy for a while so as someone who was away for it and got very much back into it yourself not too long. What would your advice be on anyone who is looking to explore this either for the first time or the first time in a while. Yeah you know my advice. Eighteen months ago was just run down to your local target or walmart and and you know see what they have and pick them up a box to pack or two of cards and and see if you like it. See what you find. See if it intrigues you. You like the specific card. You don't like that specific card try something else. It's it's a you know. Maybe twenty thirty dollar investments. See if this stuff is cool to you anymore right because we weren't thinking in terms of every card we were looking at. I wonder how much this is worth. You know i i was thinking about. I want to collect for myself. I wanna collect. My personal collection of giants. Cards of the players are like even the giants card the non giants cards for the players. I like to write the. I want my trout. You know the best player in the game. I want some of his cards right so now. My advice is do your homework. Go go to the places where they're kind of giving you as much information as possible so that you're not going out there and getting into a break for two hundred dollars and then walking away from an empty handed in going. I don't wanna do this ever again. Right go places like back right places like check on my articles. I'm live check out. Some of the baseball card farms out there. The the big form out there is blow out forms you know just read up really see. Hey do i like the look of these cards and one of the things that i think you can focus on. If you're not new but coming back is to say. What car did you want when you're collecting. You don't have right. Maybe it's that. Ken griffey junior. Maybe it's the mark. Maguire nineteen eighty five tops. Usa card and take a look at them on ebay. Right and the maguire usa card. Probably run you ten bucks or something and you know instead of spending that twenty the thirty bucks that you're used to be able to spend that target and walmart to get exposed to go get the cards that you wanted as a kid that speak to you give them in your hand and look at them and just have that nostalgia and see if you have any of that enjoyment with this and say you know. I'd like to try this for a hobby for a little while. Don't spend a lot of money out the gate you know. Dip your toe in it. You know something that many collectors will say right. There's that start with. You should focus on collecting what you love right going. After the teams you cheer for the players chill cheered for and for things like myself. I'm a giants fan but my dad grew up. You know. His favorite player was sandy. Koufax so i go out of my way whenever i i come across colfax cards to pick him up. You know for my wife and my daughter there dodger fans. Don't ask how i married got into this situation. I do have a small collection. A dodger cards for Them and when my daughter grows up you know they're all gonna going to are so it again. It's it's a tough question to answer. It's tough place to kind of point. Somebody inside this. Is you know one two three. Do these three things. And you'll see if you're gonna find that enjoyment in this hobby nowadays because it's become a lot tougher unfortunately so looking back at the twenty twenty cards across all their various reasons. I'm curious what ones were your favorite either because they were aesthetically pleasing to you or featured players who you were intrigued by what jumped out at you in the twenty twenty cents. Yeah there was. There's there's so many to choose from the start with but One of the classic brands that came in the early nineties with stadium club and stadium club Over the years is really evolved into the best photography the best pictures on baseball cards. And it's not even close and absent any new product coming out that really kinda blows me away. Stayed in club is almost always in my top ten. If not my top five and and this year they just had just amazing amazing cars. That really spoke to me and for me myself as a giants fan. They had mike yastrzemski card with him next to his grandfather. Carl yastrzemski and it just you know spoke to so much The tanja for baseball and passing it down from father to son grandfather on being you know that i grew up going to baseball games with my dad and his brothers in my uncles. So it really hit home one from my personal collection of just giants and to just for that connection to family and baseball and three just being great a great picture and across the set. Great pictures i hate to admit it. But they're clayton kershaw card in in in. That set is beautiful. Just you know dodger stadium with in the background with the palm trees. Going up to the sky and him with his as he's going into his wind up it's just very very aesthetically pleasing and so at the end of the day i love prospects. I love vintage cards. And i love rookie cards. And that's not what you find in stadium club stadium club for me was all about the aesthetics and i just kept coming back to how beautiful those cards were all right. Well it's been great to talk to you and be brought up to speed on all of this and anyone who wants to know more can find joe on twitter at j h zero zero k and they can find him writing about baseball cards regularly. At prospects. Live dot com. 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Into The Sunset

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Into The Sunset

"The pti boys and girls. Today's episode move on. And i discussed the colts needing a quarterback tiger taking a break and the blue jays landing george springer but we begin today with music that philip rivers is retiring after seventeen seasons in the nfl. Sixteen with the chargers and san diego and los angeles and this one season in indianapolis when he got to the playoffs rivers never got to the super bowl but he stands fifth all time in passing yards and touchdown passes and he started the final. Two hundred forty games of his career without interruption will now become a high school football coach in alabama. Like his dad. We'll how will you remember his career. Well tony we automatically in any sport. Now we began to group people right and we associate certain people with certain folks football. It's done by position you know in a way that is probably not in the other sports. But i think of warren moon and dan fouts guys who were prolific prolific players who had long runs and played almost every game and they had a piled up passing stats. Galore like rivers did but they didn't reach the super bowl and then about through no fault of their own. Their teams weren't good enough. They got close. Each of those three gentlemen got close. But didn't have the breakthrough to the super bowl and rivers the same way river sets himself apart because he ran his mouth a lot. Which i have done without and i tend to like trash talkers but i i am. I didn't take to that. But he was a prolific quarterback. Tony he will receive serious consideration for the hall of fame. You know. I mean fouts and moon that to me shapes the category. I don't know if you've got other names. You'd like to put in there as well. Get to the hall of fame in a second but in looking at philip rivers his career. I thought he was a very very good player. I will remember. Most is the way the way he delivered the ball where he wound up and threw it as far as he could. And most of the time you thought it wasn't even going to get there. But it got there especially with antonio gates and it ended up in the end zone a lot. You talked about grouping people. Well i'm gonna group them as well. I'm going to group them with his draft class and draft class ally manning ben rothlisberger. They both dot to multiple super bowls. They both won super bowls. I feel badly for philip rivers in this regard to me. It's like charles barkley. It's everything but the ring because the statistics are certainly there. And i thought it was a very good quarterback. I'll take the hall of fame issue. I'll add another name dan marino. Who never won a super bowl if the comparables to marino and to moon and to fouts are rare. Then he's going to get in. I don't think they hold it against you. If you haven't won a super bowl there are people who've won. Two super bowls aren't in the hall of fame. You not room for a long ten years. Yeah do you think he would get in. I think he will. I think it may take some push and pull the constitution of the room anymore. How many people there art and you don't tony i take to go. 'cause i know the people in that room work and how seriously they take it. I don't want to go to east coast bias but just seem to be some that might work in the favour might if there still is in the favor of manning But tony you mentioned two guys when you mentioned dan marino and charles barkley. I find more cops there. Those guys got to their finals charleston. The finals that's dan marino to the super bowl. They did not win. They were blocked. Path was blocked by maybe by the goat in their sports. So it's going to be interesting to see what happens with rivers. He will serve again will receive serious consideration and he should. It's a great career. I don't know how you do anything else applaud. 'cause you can't presume fran tarkenton got to the super bowl. Jim kelly they got to the super bowl total of eight times or maybe targeting got three and kelly. Four but time today didn't win. I'm gonna. I'm gonna air this for philip rivers. The durability is amazing. Two hundred and forty straight starts as best as i in the. Nfl means he got the job. Only bread for has more consecutive starts in philip rivers. When you sit in when you want to vote on somebody duro and going to matter and value question. Tom rivers retired now. The colts and needed new quarterback head coach. Frank reich said just last week. He wanted rivers to return starter. Backup jacoby bruce. Said as an unrestricted free agent. We've seen speculation right would like to reunite with carson wentz who he coached coordinated philly but the eagles recently stuck with a win over. Doug peterson as we know. So where do you see the colts going from here. So this is interesting to me. Let us from last year. They're eleven and five and they make the playoffs and frank right. The coach wants philip rivers to stay but he retires. Okay so unless they can talk here. Drew lock out of retirement and coming back to back their new quarterback now jacoby percent. They could keep him as a free agent they keep them but in the years that he started there and i wanna get the numbers correct. You hate numbers. He was eleven in nineteen as a starter. So then you begin to look around. Is the shawn watson. Available is jared goff available the biggest out there that makes sense of course as you mentioned is carson wentz would carson wentz want to play indoors for guy. He's played for before. Does he wanna wait to see who know. The new coach is at philadelphia. The other thing is this he also coordinated for nick foles. Nick foles probably available. They probably dumped in chicago. Maybe on him. You know yeah okay. What are your thoughts. My thought is a name. You didn't mention a name where you could get in the car and probably get to indianapolis in about four hours from detroit michigan where there's a new coach and we don't know what's going on and the lions may not want to pay the freight the big huge number on matthew stafford to me of the people who are out there including carson wentz. who are. don't even put in a category with matthew stafford. 'cause if you ask me fan of a team that needs a quarterback and won't be able to get this guy i would take matthew stafford. Has this shawn watson's in a separate category. I don't think the colt as a team. That's so aggressively would make that kind of move. But if detroit is willing to part ways with matt stafford what thirty one. Thirty two. Something like that still some good years seemingly left him. I go get stafford in a heartbeat because indianapolis is set up to win now. They need to plug in a veteran guy. Who's been in a bad place. Most of his career thinking. Oh my god. I've been freed so man i would. I would look at stafford as one of those people in that group even ahead of carson wentz somebody with thirty one. But i'm not sure. But what this illustrates with with rivers retiring. What it illustrates. How important a quarterback is the most important position in all of sports. You look at when andrew luck. One year was eight nate. Then he hurt his shoulder and the next year they were four and twelve then he came back and he was ten and six and the next year he retired and they were seven and nine so eleven. Five becomes five and eleven. Very very quickly. If you don't have a quarterback we move on. That's right by the way holds tony award. The people might the people in my era quicker than the people in your ear. Thirty two years old. Matthew stafford okay. All right would says announced that. He recently had a fifth surgery to his back. Tiger said he was experiencing discomfort after the pnc championship. He played with his son last month. The surgery was designed to remove pressurized this fragment that was pinched nerve notification said on golf channel tiger was hitting golf ball softly yesterday. So wilpon big deal little deal no deal. We'll tell them to various elements here. I mean that kind of surgery on your back. It's a big deal period. I don't care what you do you know. I don't care if you're a mail carrier. I do anything that requires your to move and function then. It's a big deal. Now when you add tiger in there are for context and you say was a bigger deal for anybody else at tiger. It's probably a deal for tiger. Because he's been through this and things like it multiple times and has come back to win and in a couple of cases win major championships. So it's less a big deal but now at forty five years old right. It becomes a bigger deal in that. Context depends on the context. You're talking about it as to whether this is a huge deal which it isn't a couple of cases not as huge deal and others. I don't see any scenario where you would call it no deal. I don't so. I'm going to go back to the lead in that i read because i wrote it and i'm going to go back to the most important word in it to me. Which is the word fifth. This is the fifth operation on his bow. It is the fourth operation of this specific kind on his back. The first one was seven years ago. Four operations of the same nature in seven years indicates to me. These operations are not working. They're not working at some point. We just talked about. Philip rivers retiring at some point. We're going to have to talk about tiger woods retired now. No i don't but when you tell me his back heard when he was playing with. His kid is playing with his kid. He's not trying to kill the ball. He's not grinding is out there with his kid feels this comfort in his back and it requires an operation of a love tiger woods. You know. i think he'll try to play the masters. You may very well be. The first tournament comes back and tries to play but this is discouraging to me and it makes me nervous. It's so many operations on the same body part mike. At what point do you say i'm done. I'm not. He'll get the attorney. I'm not gonna say this needs. It doesn't work. Maybe it means it works for a small period of time maybe year and a half to go back and do it. Yeah yeah that's come on now. I know you wear that doctor of letters jacket on some shows for what's the word but i know you go to medical school and so i'm going to say that tony people have multiple knee surgeries and it works for a while and they gotta have it again. You and i've had that. What are you talking about. It works for a while. And you go back. And you say doc in my case dr one hundred light me up again. I need something down here on the right knee so so i don't know whether it works for him and for how long but i tell you what it's. He's one major championship after the procedure right. Yeah you make it sound when you say goes back after a couple you make it sound like it's a treatment and oil change out not j. coming up. What does the edition of george springer do for the blue jays. And what should we expect. Kyrie irving joins kevin durant and james harden tanai shooting. You know every couple of weeks a little bit more more serious than docs theories. The pardon the interruption is presented by toyota. Let's go places ever buy something and then regretted like pants. They fit great at the store. But after a while you avoid sitting in them they're itchy and the windshield wipers. Hard to find. Okay we're talking about cars. That's why carmax is introducing the love your car guaranteed with twenty four hour test drives in a thirty day. Money back guarantee so you can take car home and get comfy with it because sometimes you just don't know it fits until you fall asleep on your couch. Sorry talking about pants again. Carmax the way it should be fifteen hundred dollar limits. He carmax dot com for details. Do own or rent your home. Share you and i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com. You are watching pardon. The interruption presented by toyota time for our third straight day of email. Apparently we will put anything on the air. Let me see what's thirst with. All three stars expected to play one would constitute steps to the mets tonight against the cap. Tony i wanna start off being contrarian there by the way watching kyri. Yesterday with his chin on his arms he was talking to the media was just that was just a sight. Nothing that the new york nets can do equal success tonight. Nothing nothing what they do in may could cost to success. But it'd be late. Made all right nothing. No regular season win or five eight. I'll tell you something. okay. I'll give you a task if they want to win. Thirty four in a row and beat the record held by wilton jerry west and others. Okay fine but a that. Its april may june. That will tell us whether or not the nets a successful. That's it though. I have an answer to this question much like you. It has nothing to do with the result tonight. But i think what would constitute success for the nets. Those three guys are talking to each other in the locker room after the game and nobody has punched in the face yet. This is not about talent. Grill great yes. It's talent it's about ego. And who will get their ego down. What you cannot have is a click of two against one person. And the only person i don't worry about is kevin durant because he has played selflessly on a selfless for years. He's done it. He has. He's not the one that i worry about this wrestling rhythm on kyri irving. Ucla engaged harden was the other night this is about and we'll be about kyrie and this is another email. What to signing. George springer do for the blue jays. Well i mean it gives a young team. A young. i mean just traditionally talented team an anchor. A guy who another one like thirty one thirty two years old centerfielder leadoff hitter. I mean really. Good centerfield fielder. Maybe he's not the absolute best. But he's way up there tony on the short list and look to me. I think of the blue jays san diego and the white sox. They are the teams that are saying. Let's go drop the puck. Now let's go. We're ready to play. And i make to see all those teams and getting springer just seems to be a really smart move on toronto's bath so i'm glad you mentioned the padres because my first reaction was what getting springer does for the blue jays is what getting blake. Snell does for the padres. It takes a young team that just made the playoffs and put them in a position to be really good really soon. The blue jays all the sons of major leaguers right. They've got shot at this point. They've got vlad guerrero junior they've got cavin bijou. They already made the playoffs now. Do they take the step. do they beat the rays. Do they beat the yankees in that division. If the red sox come up to the red sox down the other interesting thing to me is he was on a team. Springer was a great player. He was on a team the and he's getting the money. What does that say about baseball. Does it say basketball. We hate the team. We love the players even though the players all right no. tony is something much broader than. I didn't say anything doesn't mean anything about baseball. You know the culture. We live in people in the last two generations. Don't remember anything that happened before thursday all right so it doesn't matter this shelf. Life for everything is short enough female until tomorrow. I'm sure let's take one last break but still to come. Patrick mahomes returns to practice. That was quick speaking short shelf life. It we'll share few thoughts on the perimeter of the late. don sutton. There was a guy every time he picked up the ball to start. He got out there. He went off. Say personal reasons. I'm not gonna be here. He was out there right at one. That's once white once last thing you want run in with elite. Qb's wrestle got to kenneth on tv's lacrosse nova step behind cloud because you know his tally at thirty thirty two finger. Push us bruce lee showing no mercy fat file crew on deck earth. No one else goes deeper. That's the espn download. Now lee interruption is presented by toyota. Let's go places. Have time people at the twenty. First birthday tyler. Hero let me confess. I didn't see this coming. When hero played his one year at kentucky. Okay he averaged fourteen points a game. But i didn't see him making such an impact in the nba as the thirteenth overall pick but he landed in exactly the right place miami and got into the rotation coming off the bench last year as a rookie hero averaged thirteen point five points and shot almost thirty nine percent from three and then in that deep playoff run miami made heroes scored sixteen points a game now in his second season. Heroes starting in averaging seventeen point six points and shooting nearly forty seven percent from the field. It's odd how it works with one in duns. It's hard to judge how good they're going to be in the nba. Because one college season is such a small sample size but kentucky churns out nba guards. John wall devon booker lalique. Darren gamaa murray shake yield this alexander. Eric blood cell hand. Now tyler hero. Tony i know john kerry's a little bit of anguish over this early season record with this kentucky team but look at how he prepares all those guys for the nba. Happy anniversary to the fox puck on this day. Twenty five years ago fox introduced a growing up in the nhl broadcast in hope of joined casual viewers to the fast paced game. The idea was you could see the puck better. Pick globe like rudolphs nose. Fox gave the puck of blue halo. It was only seen by television viewers. It produced a tale when a shot was attempted. Read if there was going fifty miles an hour. Green the speed reach seventy five. Here's hated the idea. Of course because purest hate everything different when fox lost the nhl writes in one thousand nine hundred. Ninety nine blowing puck was lost as well. Nbc does not use it navy. The glowing puck wasn't a success because it was before its time dolphin doing pretty well. With the colored tracer chose the flight of a dot and the single greatest technological innovation in the history of american. Sports is the yellow first down line which was created by the folks who get this tony. I don't wanna watch golf without the tracer. And i never hear anybody complain about it. It's wonderful to watch. It is a melancholy trails to don sutton. The dodgers hall of fame. Pitcher died at seventy. Five sutton was the tortoise in the tortoise and the hare fable he did not have the blinding talent of his teammates. Sandy copaxone gone drysdale but by the end of his career sutton had three hundred twenty four wins and three thousand five hundred seventy four strikeouts over twenty three seasons from nineteen sixty six nine hundred eighty six when he was forty one years old sutton pitched at least two hundred innings in every season but one and that was the strike shortened season of one thousand nine hundred eighty one. Only cy young and nolan ryan had more starts than sutton. Seven hundred fifty six. It is said sutton never missed a start. A proof that the best ability is availability pitching rear. Iran did sutton stopped at a new baseball career in broadcasting sudden twenty eight years calling atlanta braves games on radio and television sons passing his yet another hall of famer lost most recently. Was tommy lasorda. One of sutton's managers in two thousand twenty baseball lost. Whitey ford bob gibson. Tom seaver phil niekro lou. Brock alkaline and joe morgan tony. That's a start of an all time team right. There's unbelievable to have lost all those men in such a short period of time. Let's go to the big finish. Still homes participated in. Today's glorified walk no contact yet your thoughts. We don't know about the foot but if he's practicing on wednesday i believe he's playing on sunday number. Three villanovan beat seton hall after twenty seven day. Colder related laws. Are you impressed. Maybe not as much as i should be the number three team in the country. They're supposed to win that game. Dianne williamson top thirty per second. Straight games have significant. Yeah tony he's only played thirty sixteen in his career. He looks pretty dern good to me the philadelphia inquirer reports doug. Peterson is leaning toward taking next season. Off your thoughts is going to get another job when he wants when he won a super bowl last one celtics and sixers tonight. He got tilt. That's worth watching one game separate to tony abbott. Tonight the philadelphia seventy six rotted time. We'll try and do better the next time. And i'm tony kornheiser on mike wilpon. Same time tomorrow knuckleheads. You can get the pti podcast on the espn app or apple podcasts. Now let's throw scorza glenn rifkin shoutout.

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Super Bowl Set, and Baseball Loses an Icon

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Super Bowl Set, and Baseball Loses an Icon

"By fifty on klif. Dave anemia. monday morning another championship. Sunday in the nfl goes by without the dallas cowboys in it and now been nearly thirty years since they've been in one nevertheless we've got a super bowl matchup set for two weeks from yesterday and it's going to be a good one. I think she needed a drag. The gave me to bring that up just a little reminder your your your daughter your one that's in college is held. She's twenty-one she knows nothing about the cowboys having a super bowl now but it's still her favorite team. How is that possible. Because she lives he has she grew up. Here is their biggest are their biggest fan. She have the l. tattoo on stop. No i was back there. That was my first super bowl. Ever cover on never forget nineteen ninety-two the dallas cowboys are playing in pasadena against the buffalo bills. It was an experience. And then i went god. This was fun. And then the next year i was in atlanta and i went god. This is even more fun. I'm back for another year. I was so disappointed in that third year when they got beat by san francisco and they ended up going to the super bowl. But then jimmy gets fired up. Never go again. Well somehow barry switzer was able to take him to another super bowl this win in arizona. Nineteen ninety five and that ship sailed. I've never been back on the water again all right. Thanks for stopping by audi. And we're we're out of time. No i think history lansner become a chief's fan or wherever tom. Brady's playing i'm kind of becoming a chief's fan a little bit. Patrick mahomes these numbers. I think somebody said that he was in kindergarten. When tom brady played in his first two super bowl. That's warnings old. Tom brady is going back again. And if you're in new england fan. Aren't you going. What the hell were we thinking and not re signing. This guy went me. I wasn't part of that but you know of blew. My mind was on. I learned that this coming up is is super bowl fifty five. Brady's been in ten of 'em really hoping him would win but and for the first time in the history of the super bowl. Brady's team will be playing in their stadium. That has never happened before which is amazing. In the history of all the team has not been able to. You would've thought that well the cowboys didn't have the nice complex that they do now and then they would always go. Team like seemed like every year they were going to new orleans to play A super bowl down in the superdome. But not this year. It's going back to tampa bay after how about that team. They go with. Tom brady and wanted washington. It's hard to win in the playoffs on the road. They want it washington then they go to new orleans and one at the superdome and beat drew brees in the saints and then yesterday go to green bay and beat aaron rodgers and the packers. Show you how good he is as a quarter. They'll probably wet. The bed and see mahomes is pretty good too concussion or not. He looked like he was Dialed in yesterday. Let's listen into the texas native about this team. We believe in each other and every time we hit the phil we leave everything we have the jobs. Nothing is going to tampa. We're trying to run it back. They're going to try and win it back or bring back. The chiefs are see three and a half point favorite to win when they play in a couple of weeks. So we got a couple of weeks a hype. But we don't have to worry about like we did in those two environments. Yesterday was kinda chilly in kansas city. Much colder gonna be weird. His two week hype upped leading up to the super bowl is not going to involve any actual of team appearances two days before super bowl sunday is is the soonest that the teams can show up to and the and the immediate can be there today. Well you know more than i do. Medium party as possible that makes sense in the. Nfl will do everything making an. And both of these teams will make sure that everybody's protected as you can be with covid. Nineteen the other story Your producers scott called me on friday so sad. Hey limbo can come on and talk about one of the great greatest baseball players of all time. I started thinking. I grew up in saint louis and i lost two of the great that i knew as a kid right in growing up in lou. Brock and bob gibson right. I started looking at the list. Al que line. Tom seaver brock gibson. Whitey ford joe. Morgan phil niekro tommy. Lasorda don sutton and now hank aaron. I liked what our former president. George w bush. The one time owner of the texas rangers said The former home run king wasn't handed his throne. He grew up poor and face racism as he worked to become one of the greatest baseball players of all time. Hank never let the hatred that he faced consuming. He also the he's of course. Being best known for beating babe ruth home run record but that actually kind of overshadows his entire career because he was one of the most prolific all-time based hit hitter he an. Rbi could do it all. Yeah i mean he could do it all. I watched him play several times. When i was a kid assignment and lanna which is where he was. There will walkie in atlanta. They're wanting to change the name to the hammers. They should hammer and hank. Yeah why let it being called the braves so that'll offend somebody. Somehow it probably all right there. You go steve. Lamb cowboys. Amy steve lamb. Living in the past. My fault was on the copy that was written by scott there. I threw him under the bus fifty. Six all right he was trying to make a relevant for the local local fats. It's five fifty six.

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