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"don rumsfeld" Discussed on America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast
"Sad bit is great to be with you today. Thanks for having me on. And you're joining us from your big annual event. Thank you for taking time to talk to us about an issue that I know is incredibly close to your heart. When we planned this new series, we didn't know what general boykin was up to, but it of course is a fabulous confluence that imminently your latest book is about to be released. Let's put it up on the screen. Perfect, perfect timing for us, courageous, strong and courageous, a call to biblical manhood that is exactly what we are going to be discussing today. But first, for those who are not familiar with your career, how you ended up in charge of intelligence in the DoD, what you did in uniform as well. Tell us a little bit about Jerry boykins path in life. And for those who are interested in those kinds of things, your service in Delta force and what Delta force really is as much as you can tell us. Yeah, thanks. I graduated from Virginia tech in 1970 where I was in the core cadets. Played football up there and I went immediately into the army as soon as I graduated, I took a commission. There's a second lieutenant and I was an infantry officer. And I served tours in the infantry until 1978, and that included some time in Vietnam. And in 78, I was asked to try out for the Delta force, not knowing what it was or what it would ultimately wind up being. And I made it through that. And spent 13 years with the Delta force, and then after I got promoted to Brigadier general, I went off to the CIA and did a tour at CIA for a couple of years and then back to command all the green berets and then the special forces school, I was a commandant of that. And then Don rumsfeld brought me up to Washington to serve my last four years as the deputy under Secretary of Defense for intelligence and that was even though it was in Washington. That was a good way to go out and I learned a lot about the intelligence community that I did not know and even though I had spent time in that community at CIA. And so I've learned a great deal in that 36 and a half years that I served, but more importantly, I have a sense of accomplishment for having served my country, which means an awfully lot to me and to my family as well. 30 6 years in the army, tell us a little bit about those founding years as formative years of Delta force. What was the mission and what kind of things were you engaged in? Yeah, if you remember the Munich massacre, that's when the U.S. government started asking questions about do we have a counter terror unit and the answer was not good. So Jimmy Carter eventually asked that question and he said, what if we had to go do what the Germans had to do in Mogadishu Somalia, which was go in and rescue a plane load of German hostages that had been captured by an Islamic terrorist group right there on the tarmac and Mogadishu Somalia. And the answer was ultimately that no, we don't have the capability. So he said, I want to create that capability. Well, stop and think about this. The military does not necessarily look for surgical operations. Military is about firepower. But here we were in a dilemma because we had sort of grown up in the military saying bring all you have and apply it liberally, meaning our artillery are small arms are combat aircraft in the land. And in all of a sudden we're rescuing hostages, but we can't we can't use all that firepower. We have to be very surgical in doing that. And so we had to rely on organizations like the FBI and other federal agencies that had S.W.A.T. teams that to help us to learn how to scale back in terms of applying firepower, but our mission initially was to rescue hostages, but with a broader ultimate capability of counter terror operations in the broadest context. That meant finding people and killing or capturing them, which we did a lot of in the continue to do a lot of today. And then doing clandestine type work and covert when called by the CIA to support them. And so we trained for all of that and we had no playbooks and said, I will tell you that we would sit down with our senior non commissioned officers on a Friday afternoon. I mean, these were men. These were really men. This is a good topic for today. We would sit down and each man would reflect on his experience and certain fields. And we would plan next weeks training schedule. Next week's training schedule. And then somebody would be responsible for gathering all the logistics we go through that. The next Friday, we were starting again. And we were rolling our own. We were doing this without any road map whatsoever, but you know what? That was a heck of a good way to start because we built not only a training program and a readiness program, but we've built a lot of confidence in our own people that we could figure things.
Rep. Jim Jordan: Jan. 6 Panel Has Told at Least Eight Lies, Maybe More
"Saw you on newsmax the other night. And you were weighing in on the J 6 panel and you said they've been caught in 8 different lives. What are those lies? Well, they lied about Bernie Carrick's travels. They lied about very loud on the colleague of mine. They lied about the tour he gave to constituents. They lied about Jenna Ellis documents. They lied about Eric hershman, White House lawyer, the light about the note written Cathy Hudgens that she wrote it and there was a person said, no, no, I actually wrote that note. They lied about the Secret Service. We've had Secret Service come forward and say that what she testified to was not accurate. And they lied about me twice, they lied about a text message I had forwarded to The White House chief of staff. They said it was from me, a member of Congress when it wasn't. I had forwarded to him from a respected lawyer former inspector general for Don rumsfeld. And then they also took a video quickly where I was on Fox News talking and I was on Maria bartiromo show and the video clip started off with me saying January 6th is the ultimate data significance in a presidential contest. What they left off was the sentence right before that where I said the late justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that January 6th is the ultimate date of significance in a presidential context because that's when you actually approve the electors. And that changes the entire context of that statement. So we saw that and then, of course, maybe the most important was when Zoe lofgren I remember the committee said, we don't corroborate witnesses testimony. And they didn't ask pat cipollone when he was deposed if what Cassie Hutchinson said about him was true. And his lawyer reported afterwards that if he had been asked to say it wasn't. So that's 8 different false things we've gotten from this committee. And Todd, we don't get to see the evidence. We don't get to sitting on the depositions. We don't get access to the transcripts of the video, the documents they have. We don't get any chance across examine. And so imagine how many other lives they've told the American people if we've caught him in 8 with that limited amount of ebb and we get to see.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on Daily Pop
"Oh, I do can get ahead in this game. I didn't say that because we do know that Tom Cruise is into Scientology. They have a program. They have a program that allows you to know and notice how focused you can be. How committed you can be with passion. I know it because I've been there done that. Right, no, I agree. You think that that has lent itself to his focus and determination which is all positive. We're not even knocking that. But I definitely feel like the grill. From fresh prince. Will has had a steady climb upwards. 100%. I don't feel there has been a lot of knocking Will Smith down. He is, he is a massive star for every age. I have been in my life. Will Smith has always been massively famous. 100%. Yeah. Well, after the break, you guys. Hollywood Hammond. Hollywood legend. Harry Ellen is here. When we come back are you where the FBI? Yes. I need a microbiologist. Doctor Leighton said he was on his way over. You're talking to a mister broca on special agent Matthew riker. I've got a sick employee upstairs, and we had enough of the run around. We still don't know what Aaron has. Well, I just flew in from D.C., I've only been on the ground a couple of hours, but we have the best minds in the field working on it. I pulled him out of bed to do it. Well, I'm trusting you, agent, because my next call is to ashcroft. Being in the role of broadcast legend Tom Brokaw is another legend Harry effin. Hey guys. Hello. Thank you for being here. Crazy, right? The voice, I know you have a question. The voice, you got that down. Well, his voice is much deeper than mine. You know, you know, when I was asked to do it, I go, you can't do this. It's impossible to do this. It's impossible to play somebody like Tom Brokaw. Right. You know, and that's kind of why I took it, I think, because, you know, I like a challenge. I like to do something that I guess it's hubris, but I said yes to this thing and I did it. His voice is much much deeper than mine. You nailed it. It sounds exactly like him, especially when you were watching the clip from behind you were like, that sounds exactly like Tom broka. Oh, if I was Lisa ran out, I've been like, hey, Harry, can you bring Tom Homer? I'm feeling a little spicy tonight. Well, you wonder how you're gonna do something like this and I watched Anthony Hopkins do Nixon because a part of someone totally iconic like that. And I watched how he did it and how you sort of threaded a needle through the character just to find the essence and that's what I wanted to go for. Let me actually this question because, you know, we learn a lot from TV shows and movies and we're like, wow, we didn't realize that happened in 2001. Was there anything that you were like, wow, how did we not hear about this in the news? Well, we knew we knew the broad story. We didn't see what was going on behind the scenes with the FBI and all that. That's what you find out in this. And this is kind of a whodunit, too, because they spent a long time trying to figure out who was behind all this. 9 11 had just happened. We all thought about that, you know? Yeah. And I'll never forget, I think it was Don rumsfeld, said on TV in an interview, you know, somebody said, what happens if a plane flies over your town? And they crop dust you with anthrax. That's what I hear. Everybody should go out and get duct tape and man there was a run on duct tape. I still have a box of the duct tape that I went out to. I think duct tape did that. I think the duct tape industry was like, let's go ahead and start this rumor so we can make this cash. Wait, I have a question. Did you get a chance to meet with Tom broke up before you took on this role? I have not met Tom. You know, when I was a kid, I lived in Pasadena. He was on knbc as a junior broadcaster. Oh my God. I'll never forget. I was probably 12 or 13 and I looked to my mom. I said, look, look at this guy. You know, he's got something. This guy broke off. Wow. I was 13, you know, an off he went. Would you would you want 'cause we've been talking about House of Gucci with Lady Gaga, who famously is not met the woman that she is playing. If you were given the opportunity to sit down with him, would you have wanted to or would you have wanted to take on the interpretation completely on your own? That's a good question. That is a very good question and not one that I've even thought about. But see what we do on daily? Smart. Okay. So, you know, I was sitting. I was going to do an interview for serious just before the lockdown. I was in New York and he was sitting not this far away from me, being talking to somebody else. And I wanted to break in and say, mister broke, they whisked him away before I get it. Was not meant to be. That's not meant to be. Yeah. Well, since we're on serious questions. Yes. I have to know when Lisa renna is dancing around the living room. Are you ever like Lisa cit your ass down? I am trying to concentrate this. No, I would never do that. I would just say take another piece of clothing off. Yeah. How long have you guys been married? This worked 25 this year, so but together close to 30 years now, so. We always talk about how two actors can never be married. Yes. Because it probably gets competitive. Compare and you contrast, and it's this whole thing. But you guys have made it work for 25 years besides the hot passion between the two of you as we know. How did you guys make that work? And having the same career. Totally. You know, we've never even thought about being competitive. We've done a few projects together, you know? We do businesses together. She has written a beauty her beauty yes, I hope that we're coming out with a couple other things too. Pretty soon. Look at oh my God. That works together Stacy. There's no ego between the two of them. That's also why. Harry, I can't even look at you when I ask you this, 'cause I know you. What's your favorite wig? What's your favorite? 'cause they all have personality. I think Heidi. You have Heidi. I like the Heidi wig, yeah. So and you know, I get all of them, whenever I want. 'cause you know, energy, wait, I'm gonna ask this and then we're gonna ask you one more question. Your Scorpio. So what is Lisa? What's her sign? Well, she's the best sign possible for a Scorpio. So she can't get cancer. That's why they're together. Yeah. Okay, we have to transition obviously right now. Amelia has been so vocal about what she's been going through. How are you doing with all of that? And you stay quiet. You took the backseat to that whole thing. Well, I don't really do social media. I mean, I don't have time for it 'cause I'm in so many different things. I'm also an alternative energy and I spend a lot of time with that. So I don't have time for that. I leave that up to the girls, and I follow them technically speaking, but I go on Instagram maybe once twice a month. Right. So I get people coming to me in the store and they go, oh, you know what your wife thinks about? I go all that stuff. That's my wife. Yeah, he's like, I don't know if this is not my territory I focus on being Tom broker, right? Right, right? Totally. You guys, thank you for being here. Thank you so much for being here. Congratulations. And condolences on the passing of your mother in law. She was loved by the way. Yes. Yes, Lois was one of a kind..
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
"The see welcome back. Americans hugh hewitt joined now by from music. Admiral james stavridis. He is retired. United states navy former allied supreme commander of nato former head of southern command. Good friend of this show. Good morning admiral. How are you doing great cute big day down under in australia. I we're gonna get. That's my second of three issues. In degree of difficulty. Talking about afghans aussies and general milley. Let me start with. Afghans people who've served afghanistan but none of them from your perspective Axios reports thirty-seven thousand. Afghan refugees are coming in your state of florida. You'll get a thousand mississippi. Getting ten north dakota getting forty-nine ohio's getting fifty five i put it out in. America has between three hundred four hundred thousand churches. We can absorb thirty-seven thousand. Afghans and people. Ask me well. What are they like. I actually don't know so. I thought i'd ask you. What do you think we'll find among our new americans. Well let me start by saying in my beloved state of florida. I'd be happy to get five thousand and these are hard working people and let me tell you something hugh we know in florida about people who flee persecution they were called cubans. They came here and built an extraordinary community in south florida. The community that cuban-americans help build this state in the sixty seventies eighties today or a vibrant part of it. I expect nothing less from the afghans. And let me tell you. It's not just what are afghans light. It's what are these afghan. Like in. So there i would say to you. Hey how much. Courage in true grit and determination. Does it take to put your two year old on your back. Grab your four year olds. Hand picture yourself in this situation. Fight your way through those crowds. Get through that airport and get a ride out and finally make it here. I want that person on my team and like the hunger games so they are in my long association with afghans. Warm charming friendly funny hard working is going to be nothing. But a plus up for this nation of immigrants. I would say let's take all the afghans we can get and i'll close hugh you and i are both young enough to remember the arrival of vietnamese american community. Hello california do you think that's been a plus up for the golden state i do. I mentioned that earlier. My my roman catholic parish. Ohio adopted vietnamese family refugee in the seventy great members of the committee. They weren't catholic. And i just think america's faith communities will step up the aussies big news and you know in a in a month of news. Tell me what. Think about the new deal between the aucas. I guess it's being called. Yeah it's kinda goofy acronym aucas but it's australia. Uk and the united states couldn't be a closer set of nations for the united states. If you look at our historical associations. Obviously with great britain but really look australia. Hugh they have stood with us in combat in every conflict the united states has been in every single one vietnam correa gulf wars. The current forever wars stretching back to world who are one. It is a nation with whom we share a lot in common a kind of a frontier spirit. We are very lucky to have them on the team so to bring those three nations together collectively have immense technology no language barriers shared value. Systems is very powerful. That key and this was president biden yesterday. Talking about this new alignment. The real key is nuclear submarine technology. I wanna make sure people understand. This is not nuclear weapons. The australians have no desire to operate nuclear weapons we don't want them to. We don't want to have further proliferation. Even to our allies of nuclear weapons. But this is nuclear powered submarines. It'll help balance the rise of china. It is nothing but good in my view now. I hope i reported this correctly. I believe they'll be armed with hypersonic missiles. Am i correct about that. I think that's a good bet. They'll come out of vertical launch tubes. I predict this boat. And no one knows exactly what it's going gonna look like we call submarines boats in the navy. I predict this boat. We'll have vertical launch tomahawk like capability. But it'll be built from the ground floor up to carry hyper sonics and so it's basically if you take the three fleets. Are we capable of containing the chinese underwater fleet. We are this will be extremely helpful because it will ensure that the chinese have to keep in mind these australian nuclear powered attack boats and these nuclear powered attack boats. You you know we used to say in warfare that infantry was the queen of the battlefield not referring to femininity but referring to the powers of the chesapeake piece. The queen on the board can go anywhere and do anything. Submarines are the queen of the undersea battlefield. Now turn to general milley. And i've said only this. We have to know what happened. Because i don't know what happened. I've seen the reports apparel the wall street journal. The washington post editorialized. The same talk to me about your general reactions. Your suspicion the context that may or may not be missing and if indeed it's simply a rogue call by a panic general which. I find hard to believe what would happen. Let's start with something. General which is general. Milley mark milley. I know i'm extremely well. Almost twenty years ago. I picked him when he was a colonel. And i was three star admiral to become the briefer with don rumsfeld in the pentagon because nobody else in the pentagon could hang with don rumsfeld and explain what we were trying to do. In those days in deployments to iraq and afghanistan. He is tough in the clutch. He smart princeton graduate captain of the hockey team. He looks like a bouncer in a bar. That kind of covers up a very sharp razor sharp mind. He worked for me in. Afghanistan is a general. He is combat. Were fighter to the degree. So he's the whole package in terms of the military. That's a context that i think a lot of people are missing number two more importantly to this situation everything that i can see and i haven't even read the book but what i can see reported looks to me like chairman of the joint chiefs one. Oh one this is what he's supposed to do he supposed to call certainly are allied contemporaries called the head of the british armed forces. The french armed forces the german armed forces the japanese armed forces. He is also supposed to have open ability to talk to the head of the russian armed forces chinese armed forces. I would love it if he could talk to the head of the iranian armed forces in the north korean armed force. Because that's how you de conflict. That's how you avoid rising tensions now. Having said all of that. I see tom. Cotton has taken a pretty balanced stance here and said look that call was monitored by a dozen people probably there might even be a transcript or a recording. Let's take a look at it in a classified setting in. See what the general said so when i roll all that together. I'm quite confident. Mark milley is on the right side of this one now. The acting secretary of defense at the time miller has said he did not authorize the call could someone else have authorized the call and still if it includes what woodward in cost say it includes a warning that we would not use any attacks or any aggression. The one thing. I've heard a great greatest concern. Is that at the time. The second call happened. We had more than one hundred and fifty actions unfolding against china including the declaration of their status as a genocidal and that there was no deputy national security pottenger no assistant secretary of state stillwell general steel. I'm sure you know as well on the call which would make it out of the norm are. There is your mind open to finding out that. After the stresses of the last six months of the tenure of donald trump the general broke the rules and would have to resign. I'm always open to any official having to place his or her conduct against written rules. No problem and i'm sure general milley will tell you the same thing if you were on the show what i will tell. You is as supreme allied commander of nato. If i wanted to pick up the phone and call the supreme commander of the russian armed forces..
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"The bounds of our legal system figured a way to write the legal opinions and fit it within a legal system and then almost like the once it becomes legal right. it almost becomes a euphemism for or macular for humane. Not a legal. So we doing it according to the rules and and this all gets an. It's it's that it seems to me. And it's also his failure to hold people to account from the their administration whether it was a context of sort of impeachment trials and then also hassle and brennan and all these people. It wasn't just a matter of. I'm not even going to hold you to account it's like it's not gonna really interfere with your trajectory of your career right So he retained the essentials of the war on terror as it had already in a sense been stabilized in the later bush years. He didn't need to call lawyer. He was one but he definitely took steps that bush never did to formalize a kind of endless war what i would say is he because there was no antiwar movement or he actually you know to the extent there was. He took the like the air out of that balloon in the early years. People really did think he was. A piece candidate witnessed the nobel prize. He didn't have to face pushback when he took american force. Still legally to new places Or you know you know. Went beyond the mandates of united nations resolution in the case of the destruction of libya But he was intensely concerned with getting his lawyers to present. You know the way. Americans are going to fight this war as in conformity with standards or even go beyond the standards that require you to fight humanely so mentioned the nineteen seventies role. Which is still on. The books is that you can't strike in war if you think that the collateral damage will outweigh the advantage. Gain obama went way further and says said in a drone strike or other targeted killing. If there's any risk of collateral damage at all we won't strike now. It's not that that rule was followed because it wasn't too many died for it to be followed but the fact that he said he was gonna follow. This rule is really revealing. because he understood that he was gonna play on the humanity in order to extend and expand the war. and so i think The law and the law humane war has has a really important place in in the outcome. And that's why i wrote the book. How much does technology also sort of add to this. Because technology and i guess sort of the development the you know some of the lessons that were learned from vietnam. So i'm thinking about bush not allowing any photographs of any returning military personnel who have been killed The embedding of reporters in iraq. So it made it almost impossible for reporters to get independent stories or other perspectives other than with. Us military personnel. I mean i you know. I did this during the the iraq war and it was amazing to walk around in the mid to thousands and nobody seemed to sort of be even acknowledged the fact that we were at war. I mean after two thousand six and the democrats come in to congress. Nobody just wasn't you know. Whatever not aware of millions of internal refugees. Hundreds of thousands of people were killing going on. And it's like it's over there just so happens one of the players in the united states. But it's not really any of our business that that to me seems like sort of i guess the one to. I'm not sure which part of that of the thing right like the humane part is the jab in the the sort of completes. Immersion of awareness of the thing going on is the is the gas. I think that's right. And i think it goes back to tolstoy's analogy with Humane slaughter of of non human animals. We we have laws that require them to be slaughtered humanely but we also have that killing far away out of sight even so So these two things distance than humanity work together to kind salve the conscience or cheap sight out of mind for so many people you know. There's also technological component to kind of rise of this light or no footprint war with tech special forces or You know armed drones or standoff missiles as opposed to like you know like inevitably violence close hands. Big big heavy footprint. Lots of troops in invasions occupations And they're you know my reflection is that we seek the technology that we morally one. You know we're not looking for napalm anymore. Even though that served americans you know for various ends precisely because it was rudolf. Now we are commissioning from you. Know raytheon at all drones which serve served not just a a strategic plan but also This this end of securing the moral acceptability enough people big continuous engagements This is the this was. Also the sort of the vision that i guess like a guy like rumsfeld had to military right. We're just going to absolutely jay sock. We're just gonna we're going to have such a light footprint With and you know Guys in chevy chase maryland are going to be fighting our war and in pakistan just a remote control drone. Yeah and and now you know drones are old fashioned and and were on the verge of autonomous weapons systems which don't require you know men with joyce or pilots Somewhere else Absolutely you know the revolution in military affairs so called You know had to be put aside for the invasions in afghanistan and iraq. That don rumsfeld. Actually you know Went to his grave. You know having sponsored. That's kind of i think the most famous thing that he's done however it was really due to the crisis of both of those invasions and occupations that in a way that the new wider no footprint form of war that rumsfeld had always advocated kinda was born and i think the humanity affected that ladder form of war especially because obama applied these rules to Theaters that were afghanistan iraq Or later ice but places where he just wanted to send a drone or special forces and that became like an alarmingly big area. Long list of places And i it it even got worse under trump. Although trump retained the essentials of obama's humane rules in whatever.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on Coffee House Shots
"Tabassum argues it's his routes twenty th century to tell a -tarian is not anything medieval islamic. So that was a form of modernity. But i think we didn't want to admit it because we can thought that tomorrow belongs to us in the west. I think we've found that out to be wrong. The everything is when you through. Such a bitter rancorous debates as the rape were. Debate was on the brexit. Debate was as a result. You do become a little bit more closed minded as a result i felt i wasn't as open minded as i should have been to the signs. That the things when working outs and that's the for example. Take what happens in iraq. The have sushi a split the fact that you had this. Broadly speaking shiites country ruled by a sunni minority. That wasn't given anything like retention. It should have been given so of course you're going to get reprisals from the shiite death squads who went on to cause such mayhem ambassador that was a dimension of it which i think was was overlooked again by a west which so world history through the as whether it's the best people me as well so world history through the lens of our recent history and not about the trend of politics in the middle east and the rise of identity islamic politics. I mean that was it was my. I think one of the most amazing thing so at about iran wars what we didn't expect iran to intervene and try and destabilize iraq. As much as it did well. what were you expecting. I mean this was a mistake. Made i also think there was a fundamental confusion about what the warnings were i. Don rumsfeld in the pentagon were quite happily have knocked out. Saddam hussein regarding unfinished business from the first gulf war installed on chalabi as the rule of iraq. Maybe that would have been kind of a democratic election to endorse him but we would have been sorry. It's going to acquit. It's democratic election. And that would have been remade iraq. And then obviously there were always. He wished to stay and try and foster full on democratic society. And you had this constant confusion about what the in both afghanistan iraq of confusion about the war aims often think about afghanistan if i as he so any was bin laden had been caught into aboard right at the.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on The Erick Erickson Show
"Before was in my office was just a young associate law firm and remember. I had a legal writing. Professor adam alani who had gone into teaching law after being in a law firm in oklahoma city after the oklahoma city bombing. That's an event that really didn't have profound national psychological consequences. But he said he had people from his office who were in that building when it blew up and had a guy come in from out of town and just demanded that they still do. A deposition was little offices and shocking. That was the day. He decided he wouldn't be lawyer. That was in my office that he watching what was happening. My boss's daughter was in the building and we had a lawyer come in demanded. We had to do this deposition that day had to be done and i just thought i don't. I don't want to work with people like this and that. That was actually the day. That i knew i could not make a living as a lawyer. I had to work with and deal with people like that. it just it it. It struck me. The same thing happened to my law. Professor i knew i wanted to be a law professor though there was no. I'm just gonna have to come up with something. I didn't like being a lawyer anyway. There's this thing called a client blue when we come back. Brigadier general lawrence study is going to join me. He was in the pentagon on september eleventh. Two thousand one would talk about his experience happening there. He lives just outside of atlanta now. is retired from the national guard. One of my just honors in life was to get to know former defense secretary don rumsfeld Got hang out with him multiple times at connected a friend of mine to his office as after he left the pentagon and she helped him write his memoir which is a fantastic read. And then i got to spend time with him a number of times. He died very recently. He told me stories about being in the pentagon on september eleventh. What it was like My next guest was also in the pentagon that day Retired brigadier general lawrence dugny Who lives outside of atlanta in canton General thank you very much for being with me. Thank you so much for having me on today. So i remember secretary rumsfeld One of the things that you know when you talk to people who are new york on nine eleven one of the things they say is that it was. It was beautiful weather clear sky. It was cool. The summer was finally over and secretary rumsfeld said would he remember he was in the pentagon and what he remembered was just the the smell the smell of the plane it stuck with him for the rest of his life on impact in what was going on that day he just e silva he can never get that smell of just the the jet fuel smell out of out of his nostrils it seemed like just haunted him and i were there that day and i know you know i. I lost a friend on that plane. Barbara olson I was in law school. She was ted olson's wife the solicitor general. She was on the plane that flew into the pentagon that day. and i. if you wouldn't mind just just let's talk about what it.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on WTOP
"From 9 11 will stay with everybody who was alive for the rest of our lives and a select few had a unique perspective on that day. Well, one of them is and Compton, ABC s former White House correspondent who was on board Air Force one with President Bush as it all unfolded and she joins us live to reflect on all of this and thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Well, thank you, boy with a clarity we have 20 years later. So much more of what we saw 20 years ago. Tomorrow makes so much more sense. Absolutely. Let's start with that famous moment where President Bush is at Booker Elementary in Sarasota, Florida He's talking to the kids there and Andy card. The chief of staff, walks up to him and whispers in his ear. How do you remember that moment? I was one of the 12 reporters and photographers who were assigned to the motorcade that day, and we're in the back of the classroom, and I was stunned because nobody interrupts the president, even in front of a group of second graders who were running through their vocabulary drills when Andy Card leaned over, spoke briefly to the what president and stepped back. What Got me was the look on the president's face of gravity that I had never seen before. The president only been in office for less than eight months, and I wrote it down in my reporter's notebook, and we had heard there was something of a plane crash somewhere. So I wonder the side of the room. I caught Andy Card sign. I made the sign of an airplane with my hand. Going down and he put up two fingers. At that moment, I realized this was serious, and the nation changed that day. And you know, when we got into this piece, I talked about shared disbelief. Many of us there was nothing to even say. Except some people mentioned that you know, we were going to war once that second plane hit the other tower. How do you see it? Well, I think what amazes me now and why The clarity to me is so much better now, when the president heard those words from Andy card, their second plane has hit the second tower. America is under attack. We did not know, but he knew he had asked the intelligence community. What could Al Qaeda due to Americans on us? Oil Internet. Instant he got the answer. It clearly was a moment that redefined and defined and just took over the whole Bush presidency. But for Americans, I think the definition was one of vulnerability. Can you imagine moms and dads, workers and neighbors killed while they're simply going to work in the morning at an iconic building like the twin towers? You got hits with the gravity of that particular moment. But now we've had 20 years to Look back ever since That's what stands out most to you about that day and where we are right now, well on board Air Force one. It was a nine hour odyssey from when we took off from Florida, the president thinking he was going back to Washington. But Condi Rice, his national security advisor got on the phone, said the Pentagon's but hit there was no way Air Force One was going back to Washington. The president's frustration in the air was not only that his communications were so limited. But he couldn't find people. Don Rumsfeld, the secretary of defense was out at the Pentagon helping carrying bodies out Dick Cheney was being rushed to a secure Bunker that had been under the White House since the term in administration had never once been used in a real emergency. So the president's up in the air and then air force when I wrote it down in my notebook at 10 44. The plane went much, much higher in the air for for Air Force One safety and that ruined what remaining phone lines secure lines. The president had. The frustration of knowing so little as he circled across the south east of the United States, and I wish we had more time to plumb your memory. And, uh, your your thoughts on this, but we're out. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Thank you and bless all those heroes who got America back on its feet. Yeah, thanks. Abc's former White House correspondent and Compton. Let's find out how Wall Street's doing Right Now. Here's Jeff Club on the Dow is down 125 points the S and P 500 index is down. 16 Money news in 10 Minutes on wtlv Sports at 15 and 45, powered by Red River technology decisions aren't black and white. Think red. Hey, George Wallace. Hey,.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on Late Night with Seth Meyers Podcast
"Our laguardia. Stock goes guy. So the media's ignored afghanistan for years and elite washington has lied to us about it as documented by the washington post blockbuster reporting what we're known as the afghanistan papers in which government officials secretly admitted. We clearly failed in afghanistan and we didn't know what we were doing in the. Us occupation of afghanistan began twenty years ago and from basically that entire period. Our government is shielded us from the reality. What was happening. George w bush. Donald rumsfeld even went so far as to make grandiose predictions about how the war would be viewed by history despite. What they really knew was happening behind the scenes the history of military conflict in afghanistan. It's been one of initial success followed by long years of floundering and ultimate failure. We're not going to repeat that mistake. What has taken place in the last. Four years and afghanistan is an historic achievement and the people who've been involved in it can be enormously proud and history will look back on it as having been an amazing accomplishment. I'm honestly not sure if these guys were ever write about anything ever like. These guys were so wrong about so many things. there's a good chance don rumsfeld wasn't even israel name. it sounds like an alias. Dick whitman would use to get a job. At raytheon suffic- history will not look back on it as an amazing accomplishment if anything. I think it's much more likely when they get to. The chapter on afghanistan future textbooks will say file not found of course in the future. There probably won't be textbooks. You'll just get all your history downloaded in a chip the putting your brain okay. Activate the chip he said what do the boy scouts. It's one thing to be wrong. I make mistakes all the time. Is anyone who watches our emmy nominated. Correction segment will tell you voting now open but what the bushes and rumsfeld's and bolton's and rose did with so much worse because they lied and covered up the truth while they were cheerleading. Making an all of those confident predictions in public em- private. We now know. They had no idea what they were doing. Despite declaring the war in amazing accomplishment rumsfeld repeatedly row panic memos about the situation afghanistan in two thousand three he wrote. I have no visibility into who the bad guys are in two thousand two. He ended one memo by writing the word help with an exclamation point in two months after the. Us invaded run. Still wrote to an aid. Please give me a piece of paper showing me. The languages spoken in afghanistan. Feel like it would have been preferable to get that information before invading. That's like an old western. Where the marshall kicks in the door of a mexican cantina. Everyone's guns on the ground. All right Oh boy todos armas who has been wild guys. Elite washington lied to us for twenty years about the war telling us it was historic achievement. And that we were close to victory when in reality they knew an emitted in private that it was a disaster and now the right wing ghouls who got us into this semester. Opining shamelessly on cable news about how they would handle the situation in the pro-trump crowd that negotiated and celebrated the deal with the taliban withdraw our hypocritically piling on by them for following through. But then again. You probably expected that what happened because you know life you know life has been closer. Look hey car. Shoppers cargurus here with your word of the day confident. You know that feeling you get when you're about to rock an outfit so killer..
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on The Young Turks
"When i worked at msnbc whenever we covered foreign policy they would make stack the show with general's general on top and general on top of general because when all you have is a hammer everything looks like nails and all the underlying reason for that is corruption. The money's gotta get funneled through the defense contractors. That's why everything's gotta seem like a military problem now. Let's move onto the hot takes because following news kabul was controlled by the taliban. You have a number of right wingers. Even some democrats coming out with some takes that i'd like to respond to. Why don't we start off with former secretary of up. Sorry mike pompeo. Why don't we start off with mike. Pompeo who wanted to jump in and comment on why he believes that biden's withdraw has been a failure. American leadership always harms american security. So this is in the context of by administration that has basically abandoned the global stage in favor of climate change. They've been focused on critical race while the embassy is at risk so former secretary of state. Mike pompeo argues that well. It's biden's focused on critical race theory and climate change. First of all as we all know anyone who's actually paying attention and living in the real world The biden administration certainly is not focused on climate change. Certainly not to the extent that he needs to be focused on climate change Especially considering all of the natural disasters we've been dealing with recently. Let's put that to the side when you're a republican in america and everything is seen through this framework of culture wars even when it comes to something as serious as foreign policy even when you're talking about a former secretary of state they decide to latch onto critical race theory to explain the failures in afghanistan. It's pathetic all republicans have is distraction. What is pompeii or want to distract you there with critical race theory which biden hasn't brought up. It's right winger after right winger bring it up when it's not even taught in any public school. Every part of that is. I'm sick of their lies. So but why does he bring it as soon as you see. A republican says squirrel understand that. They're the ones that fault and they're trying to cover something well. It was trump who decided to withdraw and set an earlier date than by. I don't blame them for that. You go back and look at our coverage. I gave him credit for that. I said we should withdraw. And i don't care that. I despise donald trump. That is the correct decision. Because on this show we are fair and objective and we knew the twenty first year in. Afghanistan wasn't gonna make any goddamn difference 'cause we're not like the rest of the media who's like. Oh i don't know man maybe. The twenty second year was the lucky here. No it's absurd it was never gonna work but pompey. I can't come back down here. Go wanted me you you were. The secretary. state doesn't negotiate a peace with the taliban. And that's okay just own it and actually i'd give you credit for instead of squirrel critical theory. No it is amazing because pompeii was the one during the the trump administration who was like. No not todd gonna help us with this withdraw their totally agreeing with us. They're negotiating with us in good faith So i mean it certainly takes a trump administration official to then turn around and pretend as though You know he could read. The tea leaves from the very beginning. Now let's move onto mitch mcconnell. Who would much rather remained in afghanistan. He says via a statement that he released the united states had the capacity to avoid this disaster. We still have the capacity to dampen its effects without a presence on the ground or local partners defending the homeland from a resurgent. Al qaeda From resurgent al qaeda will be far more difficult so much like a john. Bolton for instance Mitch mcconnell would much rather have boots on the ground forever indefinitely as if that's a decent option when the people of afghanistan certainly did not have a favourable view of the united states and its invasion of afghanistan. They actually considered american troops as occupiers of call because they were they were look guys. I got to give you a little bit of history here because it's so important so we invaded afghanistan. I lists note. People are surprised at the reaction in afghanistan we invaded. It's not like they invited us and they were like. Oh come welcome. We'd love to. Have you know we bombs on their heads and invaded them and then on october. That was on october seventh. Two thousand one so it was less than a month after september eleventh. They were sheltered bin. Laden and al qaeda that is true. And but what a lotta people leave. Is that on october. Fourteenth week after the invasion the taliban offered bin laden tim erica. But dick cheney and george bush said no why 'cause they wanted more war now everybody's leaving this out it's a new york times fishing go back and read it yourself in two thousand and five. They wrote a piece say that actually don rumsfeld had bin laden cornered in tora bora well after the offer that the taliban had We had we had bin laden and rumsfeld told a top american general to not pursue bin laden. Because it wasn't that they were trying to end the conflict and accomplish our mission. The mission for rumsfeld bush and cheney was more war so that their friends could get richer by the way you say. Well their friends. are you. Sure their friends dick. Cheney ran burn which was a defense contractor they gave him over thirty million dollars in a golden parachute. That money was to start a war just like this and the one in iraq. Cheney accomplish that mission so we had been lun eight different ways to sunday. We could have left almost a week after we entered instead. We stayed twenty long years so that some of the worst most corrupt people in the world not in afghanistan but here in america the most corrupt people in the world defense contractors and their scum politicians who get paid by them could continue that war. How many thousands of americans did we lose. How many tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of civilians and we're losing afghanistan for this obviously hopeless war that the media cheered on the entire time. Let's do one more republican hot. Take before we show some love to a democrat Rick scott senator rick scott Weighed in on this and said after the disastrous offensive in afghanistan. We must confront a serious question. Is joe biden capable of discharging the duties of his office or has time come to exercise the provisions of the twenty-fifth amendment. Shut up you. You supported a mentally feeble man who thought injecting bleach into our bodies would help with corona virus. That guy is to say that. He's mentally unstable on well. Is the the least. The best thing i can say about. Donald trump and rick scott bleach. And now you can tell by the twenty-fifth amendment you moron. Second of all. I don't know if you know this. But your buddy trump is the one that authorized the withdrawal in the first place. He wanted done earlier now. The hilarious right wing. Talking point that i see now. Oh trump's in office he would have handled. He would have planned for this. Better trump plan plan. He didn't play for anything. He will plead for his own election. Oh i lost..
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on Your Dream Life with Kristina Karlsson, kikki.K
"Our entire family lives on a small farm in the city of tucson arizona together so when i leave my office which is about a five minute drive to my home. I have nineteen grandchildren. Play with an our seven. Children are there and so it's all fun. It's just great. They've all built homes hair. Which is terrific. I was a white house fellow through a nationally. Competitive process ended up working for the vice-president the united states and then the president of the united states. So i spent about four years in washington. Dc and then went back to the private sector and by been the ceo of six companies ranging from relatively early stage startup to multibillion dollar companies and taken three of those companies public. We've had a lot of fun. Life is challenging. But good your story and Coming from poverty and from a farm. I grew up on a farm to and then the in the white house. How did you get your head around that because that would have been a complete mind shift. Well it is and i think probably christine. You have similar experiences in that as we have our dreams and as we reach for those dreams want to fulfill those dreams we find ourselves achieving new things in new heights and having new experiences along the way and each experience i believe builds on other experiences. So it's an aggregation if you will and so. I ended up the white house at twenty nine years old. A very young to be in the white house. I was the youngest member of the senior team. And if you think about the senior team in the white house at that time and i'll drop these names just to impress those listening to this okay christina so if i were to give you some names it was dick. Cheney don rumsfeld brent scowcroft. Jim baker bob gates henry. Kissinger colin powell. That was the senior team with me in the white house so they had tremendous experience..
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on News 96.5 WDBO
"S a potential surprise attack on Hawaii. They say Russian China or coordinating military military exercises, a threat not only Taiwan, but also Hawaii. It will be quick and there will be very little notice. How real is this well, ironic that it's coming from our friends in Japan, Of course, conducted exactly that type of attack 1941. What's realistic. Here is China and Russia, drawing closer and closer together. And if you recall during the Cold War U S Soviet Union, you didn't see China partnered up with the Soviet Union today. That's different. President Jean and President Putin are in fact closely coordinating policies to include Financing and financing Iran's efforts to economically come out of that the destruction to their economy that's being conducted correctly, in my view under these sanctions that were imposed, and secondly, they're both working with North Korea, so you potentially have very negative quad. Of China, Russia and then two junior partners in the mix North Korea and Iran very dangerous for the United States. I'm glad Japan is with us. And by the way, Brian, As you know, there's another quad and that's US, Japan, Australia in India. I think we're going to need that kind of balance allies, partners and friends. Both NATO and non NATO partners. If we're going to face China, where they vulnerable, where's China vulnerable, I noticed there at the end of the innovation part of their country. More and more than you see, Jackman cut the Alibaba's of the world when they get too big incomes. The government and they get suppressed. Jack Ma thought he was bigger than China. A couple years ago, he disappeared. We haven't saw much of him since the Jeff Bezoza of China. They are stifling any type of free market mentality, aren't they? There are three big vulnerabilities trying to face this one is demographics. Their population is aging rapidly. They have a miss balance way too many men, not enough women. So they have demographic challenges Number to your point at some stage of this take. You really don't Let capitalism run free and you start to stifle it. You can't have it both ways You can't centrally planet. So over time, I think the wheels of capitalism will start to grind more and more, And that will be more difficult. Third, And finally, it's the environment. They have, um major major environmental challenges they make other nations of that size look like a paradise compared to go to Beijing. Look at the smog. All cold based many, many environmental challenges that are going to have to be re mediated. Those are overhangs on China and then lastly, their geography does not favor them. Particularly. They're kind of tucked in a quarter of Asia. That's why Russia is such a good partner for them and expands the geography significantly right. They've had. Suddenly they put their problems aside. I think Vladimir Putin president, she seemed to get along, which is indictment on both of them. Uh, who said this week We also saw a missile strike inside Iraq against Iranian affiliated militias. And then a return strike. Where is this heading? What would initiated it? Are you in support of that strike? I am in support of the strike. It was conducted against, as you say, Iranian backed militias in Iraq, Iranian backed militias in Iraq and the reason is because those militias were attacking our US groups who are still in Iraq. We still have somewhere between 2500 and 4000 fighting the remnants of the Islamic state, so I applaud the Biden administration strikes very similar to those that were conducted by the Trump administration where it's going Is new, hardline government has been elected in Tehran and then named Ibrahim racy is the new president will be installed in August. He does not have much in the way of accommodation written in his eyes. He's a butcher who murdered thousands of his countrymen during the suppression of revolutions. So look for increasing tension toward the end of the year. And I don't see any quick solutions here. All right, Admiral Stavridis go pick up his book, 2034 Novel of the next World War. What are going to be thinking about July 4th? Going to be thinking about all my shipmates who have passed in these wars, um and thanking them for the freedoms that we enjoy as we celebrate the birth of our republic. Also, I would be remiss if I didn't bring up your thoughts on the two Times Secretary Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who passed away at the age of 88. Yeah, I worked directly for him as his senior military assistant. When I was a three star Admiral. I never met a more energetic patriot in my life. Like all of us. He made some good decisions and some that he would probably do over again. But I can't think of another figure other than our presidents who have influenced American foreign policy and security policy. Over the last 50 years. He was an extraordinary person. And I was proud to work for him. And for what I saw I back you up, 100%. He definitely Lived and breathed leadership. You might not like his decisions, but he was willing to stand behind them. Uh and we can go back over Iraq and everything, but you lived it every day. Did you learn from leadership? Do what did you learn from him? Because you wrote leadership books yourself and you study that for a living. You have a passion for that. I do read Rumsfeld's rules, which is sort of his book on leadership, very short block and very readable that the thing about Don Rumsfeld was, um You better know what you're talking about. When you go in the door to be around him. What I learned from him was how important that details are and how you have to challenge your subordinates every day to get the details, right. He was He had an eye for a flaw as he liked to say, but what he really had was mastery of details. Admiral Stavridis, Thanks so much appreciate it. My pleasure, Brian. Talk soon. Happy fourth back at you back with all of you, 18664 Oh, 87669 Expanding your knowledge base is Brian Kilmeade. Mm. Red alert from the Wdbo 173 FM and AM five baby safe Touch Security. Triple Team Traffic Center crash on the turnpike north beyond after state Road 50 at mile.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on The Erick Erickson Show
"Now what are the stories. Rumsfeld told me that i was always thought was fantastic is richard. Nixon was not a conservative. He was republican conservative. Nixon started the epa and he was all about wage and price controls and the conservatives in the nixon administration led by dick cheney put don rumsfeld in charge of wage and price controls for richard nixon because they knew that rumsfeld was opposed to wage and price controls so he could stonewall the effort it was just a remarkable guy and of course rumsfeld. He got he was in congress and he actually had a coup that led a republican coup. That put a gerald ford in power in for the republicans in congress before ford became president. You're just a remarkable guy. And did he went out during the reagan administration and worked in the private sector and ultimately came back. And i will tell you. So what was it. Nutrasweet his company. I forget but they held the patent on nutrasweet and one time question nutrasweet and got a memo from don rumsfeld He was famous for his snowflakes. Nimmo's everywhere around the department of vinci's famous for memos and he sent me a memo defending nutrasweet. And like yes. Sir will not argue with you One time after after he office i he had armed Shoulder surgery rotator. Cuff surgery and he was going with victoria to a photography and needed someone to curious bag for him. He wasn't able to carry his bag around and his assistant who normally would and he was appalled at the idea of a Of a woman having to carry his bag for him so i volunteered and we walked around this museum there. I forget the. I forget the photographer. But this photographer had been taking portraits of politicos. Going back to like the eisenhower administration and rumsfeld had a story about every single personal. That will he knew everybody. And the thing that struck me as a man who the left despises to this day. I mean they're gleeful. At the report of his death was quite disturbing and disgusting but rumsfeld had stories about everybody and there were some people who is critical of but there were also a lot of people he was not and it wasn't a partisan thing he and you know i remember. He had rumsfeld's rules which was a little guy to work in washington. The white house and one of his rules was never ever condemn the decisions made by your predecessor or sick sesser regardless of party because you are not in their shoes and he was just he i mean he was. He was a gentle giant The man was sharp and one of the things that he instructed. Everyone around him was to learn a very simple phrase and use it frequently three words. I.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated
"One. I'm joined by the united states senator. Tom cotton from the state of arkansas. Good morning senator. How are you good morning. You're going to be on with you. I would like you to reflect a little bit on the lake. Don rumsfeld dead at the age of eighty eight yesterday you served under him. He was your secretary defense. George w bush was your president when you were in combat in iraq and afghanistan is a member of the old guard maybe secretary gates had replaced him by that point. But tell me what you thought about don. Rumsfeld don rumsfeld was a great patriot and dedicated public servant dedicated his life to america. In a straight on college she became a naval aviator and then he was elected to congress at the young age of thirty And the only person served as secretary twice. And you're right. He was my started and two thousand six I brought my training at fort men. And then for my. We're in iraq. As a secretary defense he had strengthened he had weaknesses. He was very smart. His commentary on known unknowns. I'll play it for you. So the audience can understand the last cut. Gentlemen if you'll play that for secretary reports that there is no evidence of a direct link between baghdad and some of these terrorist organizations. There are known knowns there are things we know we know we also know there are known unknowns that is to say we know there are some things we do not know that there are also unknown unknowns. The ones we don't know we don't want to ask senator cotton. That is actually very wise. What did you think of that statement. I know that the media will Likes to laugh at that statement but actually it is a deeply thoughtful way to organize knowledge. Whether you're the secretary of defense or a young troop around on the front lines or talk radio host or anyone in business and It just goes to show the kind of deep rigorous mind that don rumsfeld brought to any challenge whether he was young congressman Senior executive and in the nixon and ford whitehouse's and mastering nato secretary of defense or very accomplished business executives He was Extremely thorough methodical thinker And that's one reason why he was so successful and so so many different walks of life. I've interviewed him a number time. And i'm gonna post two of them at the interview with hugh hewitt the one i did. After his memoir came out in the one that i did. After rumsfeld's rules came out but the thing he was most critic criticized for is actually something. He had no responsibility for the disbanding of the iraq army which led do the the insurgency. I think at night follows day. I believe that was ambassador. Paul bremmer am. I right about that senator. Cotton thank you all right hugh. He also was careful to point out. He had no control over gitmo but he did have control over. Abu ghraib in the line of command have resigned after abu ghraib photo came forward. He offered to know hugh. I don't think so. I know that he did offer to and president. Bush declined it now. His successor updates wrote about this in his own books I'm not just defense. But the director and president of texas. am One measure of leadership is not knowing every single thing going on in large sprawling sushi at everything Single moment but taking responsibility for what you learn whether it's in the news as abu graves handle west for him or say to walter reed and west for bob gates or the time so young airman inadvertently flew a nuclear arm. Missile between air force bases in america. Taking this seriously. Getting to the bottom of it holding people accountable. Let let's also talk about some of the downsides of the secretary second tenure he was responsible for the littoral combat ship zumwalt destroyer the ford aircraft carrier many questionable decisions. But i think that's probably going to be the case with every secretary defense. Did he do it more than anybody else. Because this many weapons system. You're gonna call some wrong those three big strikes though. I don't think it was more than any sector against your your is that there's some distance arts these programs One thing that they did it in both of this tenders secretary of defense is they'll with military on the cusp of change. You can't and In the nineteen seventies right after vietnam when morale was fairly low and we're transitioning all volunteer force and he helped Lead that transition and then in two thousand one you know. We're a military. They're still dealing primarily towards fighting a large heavy mechanized land. War gets russia kind of similar to the war we had bought with great success in nineteen ninety one But it was becoming clearer. And i think secretary himself saw this. That's your wars going to be either gonna blow intensity style conflicts that we had fought That we would fight in iraq and afghanistan or very high end primarily air and naval battles against a country like china so guinea inherited a military. That was on because of change. No i thought a lot about secretary defenses because it's such a critical role. It's the biggest department governments. One that's required for our national defense. I think dick cheney's a very successful secretary of defense robert gates with very successful secretary events. I think donald rumsfeld was very successful in many respects though. Not as successful as those do have shorter tenures but they proceeded their time all three of them in the elected branches. Not excuse me Cheney and rumsfeld the elected branch robert gates at a different agency are those prerequisites for being able to run the department of defense prior executive administration or prior legislative ability. Or perhaps both. I think they're certainly helpful. You one thing i've seen in government Nighttime in congress. Over the last few years i is it helps to have some kind of government experience of your life draw writing. I political environment. The department of defense is the shouldn't be partisan at all and it's one of the least political Cabinet departments but it still operating in a political environment just to give you one simple example when to gresham validations or clashing over which bazars gonna close. Which is going to get A certain kind of platform assigned to it so it helps to have either that experience of chinese secretary room so had and the congress or in the executive branch or that bob gates khadr rising through the ranks and bureaucracy to leadership in the cia and also notably Several snow at the white house soon. So i think it helps to have some of that. Government says obviously it's not a recipe for or guarantee for success. We've had secretaries of the that. Were in congress or that had previous executive branch experience and that will not strong leaders But i think it really helps. What about service in the uniform secretary rumsfeld had a lot as a navy pilot. Now we have general. Austin following general mattis goater batter it depends. I think it certainly helps you to understand in particular at The ground level. What the troopers are thinking.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on The Michael Knowles Show
"A very legendary politician has just died. That man would be donald rumsfeld don rumsfeld twice defense secretary defense secretary for bush one i think he was the youngest secretary ever at that point then. Defense secretary for bush. To i think it was the second oldest secretary at that point. He was a congressman he. was chief staff to to gerry ford. He had a pretty legendary career so all all over the place and he had he had these kind of pithy lines yet rumsfeld's rules that would circulate around washington. He went out on a sour note because he was presiding over the iraq war and everyone just blamed him for whether iraq didn't didn't go very well and he bears some blame but he he really doesn't bear all the blame that people heaped on him don rumsfeld had one of the most famous lines in politics over the past twenty thirty years and people made fun of him for this line. But i think we need to learn. I think it's actually contains a lot of wisdom. I will let him put it in his own words reports that say. There's that that that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me. Because as we know there are known knowns there are things we know we know we also know there are known unknowns that is to say we know there are some things we do not know but there are also unknown unknowns. The ones we don't know we don't know people made fun of him for this for for weeks and weeks. No knowns known on what are you talking about don rumsfeld. This is one of the most sophisticated observations that has come out of our political system in a very long time. Saying there's some things that we know that we know there are other things that we know that we don't know it's a gap in our knowledge but we're at least aware of the gap and then there are other things that we don't know that we don't know those are very very dangerous. Now the philosopher slavia she actually took the step further and he said no knowns known unknowns unknown unknowns and then there's a fourth category the unknown knowns stick with me here. I know it's a little confusing. The unknown unknowns are the ones that i think we've really got to focus on today because that is what has suddenly changed our entire culture. Slava jack says there are some things that we don't know that we know we know things but we're not aware that we know them. That is ideology ideology is very often the thing that we we. Just don't even know it. we're just. It's like fish swimming in water. It's the air that we breathe and so we're we're just not aware of it but it shape so much of what we do. This is the topic of my book. Speechless controlling words controlling minds which is available now national bestsellers. Thank you for everyone. Who has who has ordered the book. I'm glad getting very nice reviews on amazon's thing for people who are who are leaving those there the way that the left twists language in particular but institutions as well is so subtle that it just smuggles in premises at smuggles in whole views of the world and we are not even aware that that has taken place but we just use these kinds of lines okay. They're they're doing it right now in a very clumsy way with the pronouns. That's why there's a fight ordinarily they smuggle in this language and it's no big deal. They did it with same sex marriage very easily they and subtly they said you know marriage for all of human history had been about the sexual difference at the most basic level involved sexual difference then they smuggled in this idea they said you know. It's like a jedi mind trick. Marriage does not involve sexual difference. There is same sex marriage and then because we just use that word and he said oh. Of course yeah. Marriage doesn't involve sexual difference. These are not the droids. i'm looking for sure. So yeah so then. The question is who deserves the right to get married. We'll everybody deserves the right to get married. Okay that's it. Be right and it's just it just subtly. Does that the the way that we went from a bum to a tramp to a homeless person to now an unhappy housed person to the housing insecure people. And so you're just subtly shifting blame away. The bum is responsible for his condition. The un housed person. Why he's just a victim of circumstance ideology defines which one those are going to be. We have we have an ideology of personal responsibility. Do you have an ideology of oppression. At the hands of in the case of our society the straight white men who know that their men in the patriarchy. And all of that. We need to be very aware of that. We're seeing this with this olympic gal. You know the olympian who she got third place in the olympic trials for throwing a hammer and then she used the opportunity to disrespect the american flag and in so doing our entire country and all of our countrymen remember and then she wants to represent the country at the olympics. So this this lady i. I'm not even going to say her name. I don't. I don't think we need to reward this. This individuals temper tantrum and anti-american activism. By saying her name and giving her publicity which is exactly what she wants but she went on some television show that i haven't haven't heard of and she explained herself..
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"76 at Reagan National 56 46 Here on W. M. A l. Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld passing away at the age of 88. We've been sharing some of the tributes from those who knew him and join us on the program right now. Tori Clarke, former assistant Secretary of Defense for public affairs under Donald Rumsfeld, Tory Thank you so much for coming on the show today. Oh, thanks for having me. I wish it was for a different reason. I I do too. And I am so sorry. My condolences for your loss. The loss of your friend and your colleague. Your mentor. What can you tell us about The man Donald Rumsfeld. I mean, obviously so many of us remember his, You know, very public pronouncements. But but But did we get a chance to see the real Donald Rumsfeld was was what we saw on camera who you dealt with on a daily basis. No, not really. And it's a really good question, because obviously so many as we're talking to each other yesterday, check in with one another. And and we all said Boy, there were so many facets to the man he was. He was a just tireless, devoted public servant. He came back. He was the second oldest secretary defense. The second time it came back. He didn't need that job right. He did not need that job. But he knew that the Pentagon which was set up to fight Cold wars. Needed to be completely transformed. Would that be a tough job? She was such a public servant use such a patriot. He loved the men and women in uniform was very concerned about them. But then he was a terrific friend. An incredible family, man. Um He cared as much about my kids and my husband when I was working there and years after practically as I did deeply deeply devoted to his wife, Joyce would nonsense High school. And their Children and grandchildren and great grandchildren. And that was his bigger part of Don Rumsfeld as anything else, Almost and he was somebody who was transformative and in a transformational figure and how he approached the military after 9 11. He also was somebody who had a lot of friends made a lot of enemies. I've been reading some of the headlines them horrible headlines, calling the worst secretary of defense. He was a criminal in a suit and a tie and then glowing headlines about him. You gave Some information about who he was as a man. What do you think His legacy is? When we think about the decades of service. How would you capture that? Yeah, It's another great question, and I encourage people to go in 2010. I think it was. They did the portrait unveiling with the Pentagon secretary Gates, who took over after it was there. And they did. The portrait unveiling of Don Rumsfeld and people should just Google Gates's statement at the time because he captured themselves fiery personality. He absolutely did. But he also talked about how the military was appropriately and necessarily transformed. Under Don Rumsfeld. The Navy became much faster, far greater re force resources and much faster special operations forces. Got the resources, the people the budget that they needed Cold War, Basing arrangements were realigned things that absolutely needed to be done to face the asymmetrical threats that we face in the 21st century. That's a huge accomplishment, huge legacy and it wouldn't have happened. I don't think under anybody else's watch, you know, it's interesting that you say that to me because I mean, you could think of Donald Rumsfeld very easily as a cold warrior. And yet, no, absolutely not. You say no, his age, But you have absolute opposite the absolute opposite and reading some of the stuff yesterday saw with so we had all these plans to transform the military. Well, the 9 11 happened, but that just went out the window. Absolutely not literally. At seven o'clock in the morning on September 12, we were dealing with the attacks. We were trying to prevent future attacks. We were figuring out what the response would be. And he told all of us and we are staying committed. Transformation because it needed now, more than ever. Something that I found so fascinating about Donald Rumsfeld was his way with words. I want to go ahead and go to a club go to a cut one of his famous quote. Reports that say there's that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know there are known knowns. There are things we know. We know. We also know there are known unknowns that is to say, we know there's some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns. The ones we don't know, we don't know. And he also wrote a book called Rumsfeld Rules. One of my favorite right, running My favorite points he put in that, he said, Learn to say, I don't know if used when appropriate. It will be often. Talk to me about the man when it came to words, he had a way with him dignity. Very smart, very well read, uh, realized that words have have impacts and influence and he wanted to use them as carefully as possible if he did. We had. He briefed a lot who briefly put they media quite a bit. Did a lot of interviews. We all did. And he had a very strong rule that said if I'm up there high sector on some up there and I make a mistake. And you're the staffer happens to be working that meeting or event And you know what? You have to correct them. Give them a piece of paper, interrupt them, whatever it takes, And we all did that. There are too many public officials who have that kind of rule, but he wanted to be accurate. If you made a mistake, you wanted to fix it up. Yeah. You know that that type of accountability and wanting to to be held accountable. You're right. That that is a fairly rare quality. I think, uh, in Washington, D C Torie Clarke, former assistant secretary of defense for public affairs under Donald Rumsfeld again I thank you so much for sharing some of your memories of the man with us today and again our condolences on the loss of your frank so much hope you all have a good fourth You too. Tori Clarke join us and we're going to talk more about the life and the legacy of Donald Rumsfeld coming up in the eight o'clock hour. Keith Urban is going to join us, the president and founding partner of javelin, former chief of staff and a former speechwriter. For Secretary of Defense. Donald Rumsfeld. Right now, it is 6 53 here on W M A L. Message from Newsmax. If you're an.
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on The Young Turks
"Up everyone. Welcome to the young turks. I'm your host anna casts burian and for the next hour. We have a lot of news to get to important news stories to discuss Including the fact that former secretary of state don rumsfeld has died. I'll give you the details on that in just a few minutes. we're also going to debunk. Some of the lies. That were hearing on cable news outlets like cnbc in regard to the housing market. And how private equity firm snatching up all of this. Residential housing is not a problem at all no no small percentage small percentage of the residential homes on the market. So we'll discuss that in the second hour. My fav- News best he. John rolla the dragon. Daddy will join me to discuss other news including An update on bill cosby who has been released early from prison. We'll tell you why Turns out that we don't really have a justice system. We have a legal system not a justice system. So we'll give you those details and the bonus episode if you're not a member i just feel like today's the day to sign up because the boat is episodes story is fun but also unfortunate and yes i'm being cryptic about it because you have to be a member to get the deeds to get the hot sauce okay. in regard to the fashion world that you get a little bit of a hint so you can become a member by clicking on that join button or by going to ty dot com slash. Join and for anyone who's wondering. Hey what can i do to help. Ty t. out just click that like button. Share the stream and get the word out about the show and the important news that we're about to share with you so let's get right to it former secretary of state don rumsfeld. Of course the secretary of state under the bush administration has died. He's passed away from natural causes. His family has released a statement in regard to his death And while some may feel that it is not appropriate to say negative things about individuals Upon their passing. I am not in any way interested in lying to my audience about what don rumsfeld stood for how he helped to craft a narrative that encouraged americans to support to incredibly disastrous wars and his role in What was referred to as enhanced interrogation when in reality it was nothing more than doodle. Torture of detainees. So let me give you the details. Let's let's do the oh bit. Let's talk about who don rumsfeld was. Rumsfeld was known for his unwavering support for the us invasion of iraq following september. Eleventh the use of so-called enhanced interrogation techniques aka torture and of course prisoner abuse scandal at abu ghraib. That was a massive scandal at the time. Those photos are absolutely hideous. I mean there were photos of the Degrading demeaning treatment of the detainees in abu ghraib. It was a giant scandal. At the time. And i'm honestly curious whether it would be considered a scandal. If it were to happen today considering how much things have devolved not only domestically but even when it comes to foreign policy. I mean the bush years were absolutely awful when it came to foreign policy but the obama administration came in and essentially conducted a continuation of bush era foreign policies and even expanded the use of drone strikes when it comes to the war in the middle east so just something to keep in mind as we give you the details. So despite the fact that al-qaeda was in afghanistan rumsfeld proposed military action against iraq just four days after september eleventh. And that's according to robert draper's book to start a war now. That was one of the most frustrating parts of the bush era because the american people were bamboozled. They were lied to. So many were under the assumption that saddam hussein and iraq had something to do with september. Eleven with don rumsfeld did was. He saw this tragic event in the united states where thousands of americans die. He saw that as an opportunity to manufacture consent for a war that we should not have started and he started that war by arguing that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction ten years ago. Abc news interviewed him and asked him about that. Very statement and how. It actually ended up not being true at.
Warren Rustand on Leading a Life of Design
"So excited that you hear him dose of leadership. Welcome to the show. Thank you very much. Richard lied to be with. You should have some fun today. Yeah it's a true honor really your your expertise in your your the leadership junkie of all junkies. I think i love your book. The leader within uh. It's really good and it speaks resonates with me deeply. You're the first person that use these three terms. And i've been saying this a lot for the past few years about i thought the keys to unlocking transformational leadership. The compassionate side for sure is authenticity. Transparency vulnerability. I saw those three words a coin together. Your book a handful of times. And it just. I just love that so. You're the first person that i've seen. That's coin those three together. So i appreciate very nice you to say. Thank you very much really interesting experience. When i was working at the white house as appointments secretary to president ford and it was one of these times when i'd been appointed. And maybe you've had this experience to richard where you know right away that maybe you're not quite up to the job. You got a lot to learn. And wondering as fast as i could at the people i was hanging out with you know and i don't do this to namedrop to suggest you sort of how i was feeling at the time you know. I was there with don rumsfeld. Dick cheney colin powell. Bob gates brent scowcroft henry kissinger. That was the senior team. Now i was a part of that team. And so i and i was new to the white house. Twenty nine years old new politics and that's didn't feel like i was quite up to it quite good now. So we had a meeting of that group in the oval office one day with the president as they drifted out. I hung behind. Speak to present. I said mr president. I speak with these. Yes sit down. I said mr president not experienced enough. I'm not smart enough. I'm gonna make a mistake. It's going to embarrass you. And and here's my letter of resignation. And i put on his desk and he looked at it for a moment and he swivelled his chair to look out across the south lawn of the white house rose garden and he came back to me and he said you know warned. The very fact that you've said this to new to me makes you qualified to be here. The fact that i was vulnerable transparent and honest with him he knew he could trust me from that point in time as a result of that he trusted this whole farm kid with a lot of stuff that he showed it ever trusted to do but it worked out to be a really nice relationship. I learned early on that. Those three words are key to really deep relationships. I agree a hundred percent. And i love that story. I remember reading that book. You're right. That's where the first time i saw this phrase those three words together based on that story. What a great baptism by fire for for being around the greatness in being the witness as you open up the book to a standing there once nixon official he was going to resign. And you're able to witness ford kind of sit. There process. what was happening the gravity of what was happening and then go into action. I love that kind of inside baseball aspect of that. Of course. I remember that moment when it happened to but just to be there to witness that. It's just amazing when you're in your twenties late twenties but still you know just honored to be there to to witness the transfer of power and the ability of someone to grasp the significance of what was happening. You and then act upon that significant at that moment in time was really a profound leadership lessons for me. It is stayed with me my whole life to to gather in the data and the information the facts and then to have a plan to act on that and In the precise moment when you need to act yeah right is some of us could have said well. Let me step back from this for six months and figure this out that day he said i. I'd like to have the following six people here at seven. Am tomorrow morning for a transition team. Me and we walked into that room the next morning. He pulled from his jacket. Five pages of notes. He had a vision for what that transition was going to be. And that was a significant leadership. Lesson
"don rumsfeld" Discussed on 990 The Answer
"Without Bush era officials. You talk about a complete lack of introspection. When Republicans and or GOP writers lament Bush era officials walking away from the Republican Party because of Trump, and they ride it as though that's something that will send chills. Down Trump voters spines. Oh, no. We must atone for what we've done in supporting Trump These dopes. There's no Introspection, no self reflection. None. They never stopped for a moment to consider. It is they it is they Who gave us in coordination in conjunction with Barack Obama, of course. It was Trump's. I think one of his greatest lines in the debates of last year when he looked at Joe Biden. They said. You're the reason I'm here. Is the reason I'm here, and it's just so true. They're all the reason. He's there. Everything we're seeing going on right now from Wall Street to teachers, unions. He's the reason They're the reason he was there. Any way to talk about it. We were so glad that he made time for us today. He writes a lot about this at red state dot com. Bonci. Bunch Red State. Good to have you on my friend. Glad to have you here today. Good to be with Chris. I am So tickled that these stories they continue to write them about the attrition from the GOP from these These people that quite literally built trump Man. It's just when will they learn? Uh, I don't know, man. You know, I read that last night, I wrote a little piece on it called. The house is always right. And I was just I was thinking about How? How little, not even trump voters. Just most Republicans and generation before Trump would care that most of these people are leaving the GOP. These are people that started It's not that I was a gift. The Afghan war. The Iraqi war when it first started, that were what 20 years now, you know so the people that that push this stuff and get all of these different things with immigration and all these things that ultimately built up The movement that ushered in Trump. He's a symptom of that, not not the cause of everything that everybody says is wrong with the GOP, and so would you when he came in Uh, that was a sign that people wanted the bush here to be gone. They wanted the Dick Cheney's Cheney today to be gone in many cases s. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't understand the angst at all. I think it's it's part of that same Beltway cocktail circuit stupidity. Bonci Red State. By the way, I should mention if you on Twitter and you want to follow him. He writes at red state dot com. Bonci Red State is his handle on Twitter. I must confess, I will be the first to admit it. I've said it before that. You know, I am not You know, I haven't been following politics for decades and decades, I would say I've seriously been studying politics for 15 years I've been doing talk radio for right around 20. And kind of like hip deep in politics since Bush ran against Kerry. In the second term, and look, I came up Reading George will and Bill Kristol and Jonah Goldberg. And I mean my understanding of traditional conservatism was Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld and George W. Bush and I remember being enthusiastic. In my backing of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld and defending the war and after 9 11 it was, you know, Toby Keith and let's go kick their ass. And I mean, I was all in. I remember all of that. I do, but Times change and I've evolved and I listen to trump and I was wary at first. And after four years of Trump I back away and I go. You know what Calling our boys home. And questioning. All of that is good and right and healthy, and I'm I'm not so sure. I Had it right. I don't think everyone was ill intended, but I think it's right to question all of that. In hindsight. And I think there's a point where You admit you were wrong If your unofficial bush shoulder whether you're some of these Lincoln project guys that are Obviously going through a big scandal right now, but they do you know they were there a lot of that same clan. They were working for these campaigns and these administrations and you know there's a point where, instead of continually fighting and fighting and fighting and calling people names and trashing their opinions the way they do trump voters instead. Just admit that you know we weren't perfect before Trump came onto the scene, and that's one of the things that bothers me. Most about the Republican establishment is just the inability to have any introspection about all of their mistakes that led to the vulnerable that brought us Trump in the first place. Particularly the Cheneys, who I always thought were so kind of admirable in public service, and I just rejected and resisted the notion of Blood for oil, and I kind of snorted derisively at the military industrial complex, but As I kind of consider who created that. Term. You know, Dwight Eisenhower, For God's sakes. I mean, no finer A man No finer in American. No, no Finer, a general an American hero. If ever there was one, you know it. That's very real and I I'm a believer in it now. I didn't used to be. But boy, I look it kind of the institutions around us and the way they fight and scream and squeal. And I'm like, you know, I used to snark it that but Not anymore. Yeah, a couple of days After Biden took office, there was a story that came out that the Pentagon's parking lot was full. You know, it was just kind of a thought. Like businesses back to usual, you know, and And, uh, I'm not saying that everybody In that sector is well intentioned. But I am saying there's definitely a lot of Of back slapping and self serving, that goes on with all of that, and that includes, you know the wars in Afghanistan, the wars in Iraq that the incursions into Syria and all of these different things, and it's it's not again. A lot of men were bad intention, but it's It's good business for a lot of people that includes These generals. They're more political than they are. Commanding combat these days, you know, And so I mean, there's there's something in it for a lot of people, and I think that's why you don't see the the Ability for people to say, You know, this was a mistake. This is a fake. We should have done this maybe a little differently and just leveling with the American people and tens of 1000. Bonci, by the way, Bonci Red State is his handle on Twitter. He's obviously contributor. Red state dot com. Bonci. There are tens of thousands of National Guardsmen. Stationed in Washington D C at this hour with really.