35 Burst results for "Don Mcgann"
The Daily Beans
"don mcgann" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"University in the public venue because he was running for it because it became a big public issue to help him in the election in a sense because why it kept him in the news it was. They were talking about it all the time so it was. The trump university was a topic and people that were attacking them about trump university. He just kept on shoving it off but he knew that the trial wasn't until after the election should he didn't care what was happening to that point because he probably knew that ultimately would have to settle because the facts were so overwhelmingly devastating against him. Yeah it's i mean that's kind of the only way out of it right but it's unfortunately sometimes it's doesn't feel like enough you know and they're and the right guess. There's really not much we can do about that. But you know something interesting that you bring up here in your book. Is that you talk about how. Donald expects his lawyers to do anything that he says including br break. The law one of his lawyers is in prison. Another one is on the way rudy. Giuliani were learning. News today You know this you know wh here. In in september that eastman had drafted a six point memo. For how pence could overturn the election. Enough follow the constitution. We have don mcgann being asked to not only fire robert muller but to falsified documents that he was even asked i mean he he's always asking for his roy cohn and so talk a little bit about your experience with you know trump expecting his lawyers and underlings to do anything they ask regarding even if they have to break the law to do it. We'll talk about your experience with that in this case so this is the schools in the broken. There's actually.
The Al Franken Podcast
"don mcgann" Discussed on The Al Franken Podcast
"Speaking of lifetime. Appointments cavenaugh You famously Have demanded that we find out about the tip line. Splaine that sir. There was an enormous amount of information about kavanagh's bad behavior. And the fbi was in charge of assembling that information and looking into the specific allegations of dr blazing ford and they weren't doing much in that regard and in fact we were getting a lot of reports from people who said look. I tried to give my information of fbi but nobody would accept it even like law firms who represented people saying. We've never seen this kind of behavior from the fbi before they're the that'll bureau of investigation. That usually want information. It's rare for them to close all of the gates and not let information in so a number of senators started to complain to them. About what the hell you pulled up the drawbridge under not accepting information's very unlike you. So then they let down one little drawbridge which was a tip line so then all of the capital related complaints could go through this tip line and of course being the fbi. They have a procedure for tip lines. And how everything's supposed to be treated where this goes all of that and in fact none of those fbi tip line. Procedures were followed which we suspected because we never saw neva steps that we're supposed to place and they finally admitted under president biden that it was essentially a fake tip and in which all the tips came into their tip. Line bucket and then without anybody taking a look at it at the fbi. They marched the tip line bucket. Over to white house counsel don mcgann precisely where the When obviously right out into the dumpster if you did a cartoon of and you'd see the tip line coming through the end of the fbi and immediately rerouted over the white house and immediately routed into a dumpster so there was no real tip line. There was no real investigation in that raises. I think significant questions about justice kevin and it also raises questions about. Why are we supposed to trust the fbi with background investigations. Which we do all the time. When at their pleasure they can simply take derogatory information about somebody who's before congress for confirmation and instead of giving us a derogatory information they run it over the white house so the white house can put it in the dumpster. That's not a good system. And with the chain of command there include the president the president just said..
The Lawfare Podcast
"don mcgann" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"The military applying on his way to pick me up so true story. You're lucky you got that call before the war went up first call. I made was to a guy who became my deputy for the iran contra investigation who is a former counsel on the senate subcommittee investigation former usa in chicago and chicago and in philadelphia And we built a separate staff of about twelve lawyers including some people from your old home at nsa Military dod I recruited we couldn't find paralegals bob so recruited archivist from the national archivist with top secret clearances because everything having to do with iran contra was so highly classified That you needed to build a staff of people with sei clearances and that was a challenge. But yes i mean. I think the the job the ordinary job of white house counsel is so important so all encompassing That the only way. I think to deal with a special council investigation or a congressional investigation is to build a separate staff so i think it's sort of an uncontroversial. Say that this is unusual president. Sort of an atypical president in terms of his instincts than impulsiveness. You look at don mcgann. Who's the current white house. Counsel is his job sort of resemble the jobs that either of you held at all or does he have sort of a fundamentally different role. How does kind of the the president's personality in the current environment change sort of what his work. I can think of lot i have. I know again from the period of time you went into the building. And i haven't discussed this with not a question. I think i could appropriately. Asked but i can take a three reasons why it would be fundamentally very different first of all. I think it's fair to say based on all the available evidence donald trump's view of the law and the rule of lawyers is different than my clients was oscar for that. And i think that's important. Secondly i think the white house counsel really does benefit enormously from an acceptance of his or her role and a process a process mindedness that supports the council in doing his or her job. The white house counsel cannot operate in a white house in which there are endless factions quarrel with each other some may be aligned with the white house some maybe suspicious of the white house counsel and no predictable procedure for the raising and addressing of legal issues. Now for all. I know that situation has changed since the chief of staff position changed since the the person holding that office changed. But i can't imagine from the client to the apparent wild west kind of character of the deliberative process that we understand to be the case in this current white house. I would imagine it'd be a very very difficult to offer the white house counsel to do i as you might expect. I agree and disagree with bob. I think the the legal issues that they're dealing with are pretty similar to those the most White white house a dealt with separation of powers issues. it's constitutional authority issues issues regarding statutory authority. I mean the travel ban that That don dhamma cancer Dealing with executive orders are some you know. Have the same legal issues in the main. I think with the daca issues that the obama white house dealt with In the main issue. What is really different is one The the president is the first to announce often probably prematurely announces a lot of initiatives. So you the white house laws to have communications discipline. You really don't have that all the time here. That's also part of Of the package the package with president trump. i vetted his vice presidential nominees. that was an interesting process. What was more one of the more interesting things and he and you see this in his presidency. He crowd sourced a lot of the process. He would go to a political rally and say who should be my vice president and people would call out names and then i would get a call that night. We'll add at susan hennessy to the list Done should have done that. I should have done that. I'm sorry I just didn't think you were thirty.
Skullduggery
"don mcgann" Discussed on Skullduggery
"It seems to me that certainly the members of congress like mo brooks and others. They're going to resist on speech and debate clause alone and probably have a pretty persuasive argument to the courts that what they were what they were engaging in was a something related to their congressional duties whether to approve the electoral college tally or not. That's a formal decision that congress had to make even as administrative as was a congressional action. So they've got a pretty persuasive case. There i would think and then you put on top of that. We know that trump is going to invoke executive privilege and resist the subpoenas and we know how long it takes for the courts. To a these things you witness don mcgann and how long it took to get him before congress. So how optimistic can we be that. The committee is going to be able to get very much. Well i have a piece coming out in the atlantic. I think on that. Very issue of the speech and debate clause. It's never been addressed committee. Members seeking congress seeking information from congress the way the clause works on it actually arguably the plain language of it excludes testimony in congress. The idea is that you don't want the other two branches to be bullying members of congress through say criminal prosecutions based on their speech and the court. There is a bunch of. There's quite a bit of case law around non-legislative acts even in their in their official capacity so for example. The court has held that a sort of a committee staffer. I think it was a member council or a lawyer for subcommittee wanted to not testify about unproven allegations of conspiracy to violate third parties. Constitutional rights and the court said that's not legitimate legislative activity for example. So i do think there'll be a question as to whether participation in whatever you wanna call it rebellion riot in secret. we're actually. There was clearly a riot in violation of dc law. I mean it surely was violence and with no argument on that it was so you know but i agree with you completely mike. This is a question of first impression. Hasn't been addressed. It'll go all the way to the the particular legislative function of accepting. The electoral college tally is mandated in the constitution. It is something that congress does so well it depends on i mean. I don't think they're going to say we can't testify at all. I think that what would probably come down to. It would be. It would be a question by question kind of like executive privilege or attorney client privilege. It doesn't necessarily prevent you from not testifying period. Like i was there and this is what i saw versus is. How were you thinking about what you were going to vote on. When it came to your chance to vote. I doubt it would be a blanket. Privilege it's been used as a testimonial privilege to sort of raise issue by issue. I i just don't think there's a strong argument. If you participate in something that led to that level violence that you're just immune from any scrutiny. I think that would be tough. And we saw for example in trump versus as ours even just as cavenaugh on this conservative cord. A similar argument was made with respect to a sitting. Presidents tax rector records. Business records said listen sitting president executive privilege even and other opinion authored. By justice chief justice roberts cabinet joined it only alito. Thomas dissented they said no. Actually there is no such blanket executive privilege just because your president and i think it's even weaker probably for legislators that's out saying i'm predicting how it would come out. But i don't think it's such a slam dunk for the likes of mo brooks but it would it would go for months litigation and certainly the president's own trump's own resistance will go all the way to the supreme court and take quite a while mark just to wrap up your own expectation from the january six committee. I don't really know what to expect. Mueller clearly going to collect collect a lot of information a lot of evidence question. 'cause i sorted out in a way that they can make points fairly aid to the public based on the evidence. We don't really know that much about the people who are actually running the investigation. And in fact. I've been some complaints about. I think we got to stop director. Who worked as a inspector general somewhere but that doesn't necessarily bother me see a and he's accused. Tally eighty against whistle. I don't know that that's relevant. In fact maybe that's good in some ways because it gives him some credibility. I don't really know what to expect the real thing. I think they should try to avoid is making it. Look partisans. they should really go out of their way to make it. Look as bipartisan. Run partisans they can. Which of course as difficult. Because they are being boycotted by kevin mccarthy in most of the republican. That'd be boycotted guy. Mccarthy pelosi refused to accept a mccarthy's selection sensitive actions i coveted. Yeah i was gonna say that on the partisanship or bipartisanship point. I mean the upside to this being dragged out with litigation and obstruction. And whatever else is that. It's going to go on through the midterm elections in anything that the democrats can do to keep this front and center for voters before the midterm problem afterward law no longer being charged but anyway something we will all be watching and kim and mark we will definitely want to have both of you back as this unfolds. But thanks for being with us. Thank you for having.
The Daily Beans
"don mcgann" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"Up the dangerous fokker out. In the community that you work toward superseding indictments to build your your case and include all of the crime. So yeah i. I like your theory but i still think donald trump should have been arrested already. Yeah and what was the point of getting don mcgann's second testimony. If not to make a criminal referral an arrest arrest donald trump. I don't get. I feel that i feel like everyone. Sorta like all right. We did it. We got it. We're done and that bugs me your new too. But until i get into the announcement from the department of justice saying they aren't pursuing those charges. I'm still going to give them the benefit of the doubt. But you're right. Timing is a factor and you know the other thing. Is this still irks me. We had michael cohen. As a co-conspirator plead guilty to campaign finance violations at the direction of and for the benefit of donald trump. Can somebody explain to me why. Donald trump has not been charged with those crimes. That's a ready made. Ace now i this. I can actually make more when telling counteract mint and it's it's a little bit down in the legal weeds but people will say well. Michael cohen may have played pleaded guilty to something that was a little bit an overstatement. Remember how we couldn't convict john edwards of campaign finance violations. Because i will agree that proving that it's a thing of value this kind of campaign information that you could either exploit or berry Is that a thing of value. Statutory people may say well. Michael cohen may have pleaded guilty to more than he really could have been convicted of at trial in his zeal to provide information against donald trump. So i get that. But i would still have given it a go. Because that's something when you commit crimes to seal an election and then you hold up the presidential shield that you stole as protection against being charged for those crimes you gotta you gotta give that one a try and the judge told the prosecutors in that case you either need to close this case or or charged someone else and they. They chose to opt to close that case. I think that was under berman. I could be wrong but that doesn't preclude prosecutors from reopening things that hadn't been charged right. Is that correct. Yeah so anytime of prosecutorial decision is made that we don't have enough evidence to charge a case or we won't we don't charge a case for some reason. That decision can always be revisited. Like because don't charge a sitting president you don't indict a perfect example perfect example. He's not sitting you have to worry about statute of limitations too though because most crimes carrying a five year statute of limitations. So if you don't act in five years you may lose your opportunity to charge somebody. But you can always file indictment under seal. Sit on it. But i don't know that they did that in this particular case but yeah we do have we do have a statute of limitations. Although i will say for the obstruction stuff i would consider the dangled pardons and the execution of the pardons right before he left office as when that sort of statute of limitations start to toll right so it would. The obstruction of justice took took place in two thousand seventeen which means it expire in two thousand twenty two. But if you count the pardons which were the completion the cherry on top of the obstruction stuff. That extends it to to christmas of twenty twenty-five if conspiratorial acts are continuing than the statute of limitations doesn't even spark running right. So i mean and when we look back to the campaign finance crimes remember. Yeah they were committed in two thousand sixteen but remember. Donald trump was still writing. Michael cohen reimbursement checks from the oval office. So that extends the statute of limitations because it was an ongoing conspiracy at that point. We'll we'll keep on top of all of this and sometimes no news is good news if they're holding it close to their chest. I appreciate your time today. Everybody please check out justice matters. You must just google it. You'll find you'll find glenn and follow on twitter glenn kirschner. I appreciate your time today. Thank you everybody. stick around. we'll be right back with goodness. Hello everyone it's alison. Gill feel tired and worn out of the end of the day with headaches. Watery eyes and you can't figure out why it's probably because you've been staring at screens all day. I used to get terrible headaches. Tired and sore is because i'm on screens all the time looking at the news reading the news doing social media writing scripts reading scripts and then back to the news..
Skullduggery
"don mcgann" Discussed on Skullduggery
"Did not get into all of the things that caused those shortcomings in preparation. We don't know really anything about why. The response from the national guard was delayed for hours even though we have testimony from The former secretary of defense and others that suggests there might have been either a lack of communication from president trump. And the white house at the least or you know we need to know was there actual communication from the trump white house that had some role to play in. Those delays in sending national guard units and in sending further police units from other localities. I mean we know. For example that maryland governor larry hogan was proactively reaching out. I was in touch with hogan's people on january six asking. Why are maryland state police on the scene. And his spokesman said the same thing that hogan has said publicly which is that they were not getting approval from the pentagon. So there's all these unanswered questions about why these things happened on january six and that's gonna be the work of this committee but that raises some interesting questions. First of all. I do want to give a shout out to ryan goodman. Who is the editor of just security and then witness who runs law fair. Both of whom are friends of skulduggery. And both of whom have been on the podcast so they are great resources for people who want to dig further into these issues. But we've been saying all along. Look it was it was. I think it was very smart of this committee to start the hearing with this very powerful visceral emotional testimony and to sort of set. The scene of what happened on january sex but at the end of the day the investigation is going to have to uncover new facts. And it's going to have to answer a lot of those very good questions. You just posed and the question. Is you know victoria. Who is the only one among us who's actually been on a congressional committee that's issued subpoenas. Will they be able to do that. they can certainly issue subpoenas. Can they enforce them. What kind of litigation will there be. Can they do it on the time. Line that they needed to be on. So it was notable that liz cheney in her opening statement said basically. We're going to be doing this and we're going to be doing it quickly. We need to answer all those questions. Everything that happened inside the white house every phone call every meeting. But i put this to both of you. How plausible is it that the committee will be able to actually do that. And enforce those subpoenas and get the information they need. I mean the only thing i would. I would defer to victoria on how that could work. But i think my political instinct on this. Is that this. This is gonna be a significant issue. The the enforcement of subpoenas. Because i think they're going to subpoena a number of these folks who worked at the white house and they're going to face stonewalling and congress hasn't hasn't used its powers to compel testimony through basically arresting people. I don't even know which law enforcement agency would do that. But they've done it in the past sergeant of arms right and they haven't done it since nineteenth century. No no no. They did it in the nineteen thirties. Actually the last guy got arrested for declining to kind of comply with a congressional subpoena there. There's no congressional jail as it happens and so they put him up in the willard. Which is which is a fancy fancy hotel in washington dc. So that was that was the last guy who went to congressional jail now. So i like john. I think you put your finger on it. Which is how fast are they going to move to the subpoena right. So previous congressional committees have kind of engaged in these like careful. Cautious dances with people. They wanna have testify. They tried to persuade the and then the when the persuasion doesn't work. They threatened to subpoena them. That eventually. get around a subpoena. And then they go to court to try to enforce the subpoena and long story short. You know three years have passed before you can get any of that testimony. But i think what's happening with this committee is they've learned the lesson of the last four years of the trump administration. Which is no more pussyfooting around right. Just going straight to subpoena. And they're moving fast and yesterday. The department of justice issued an opinion which indicated that the neither the department of justice nor the white house would agree with an assertion of executive privilege so if any of those white house people attempt to decline to comply with the subpoena because they they say that you know executive privilege applies and so they can't testify. They're not gonna get any joy from the department of justice or the white house and likely not going to get much joy from the courts. So i think there's a chance these subpoenas. We're going to move fast and they're gonna get enforced and it's going to be really interesting to see whether or not Try to Try to avoid the subpoenas. Say if they end up in the willard jail for their efforts. Well i'm i'm guessing i'm guessing if donald trump refuses to testify and they send the send the sergeant arms to arrest him. He'll say in the trump hotel. Yeah i think. I actually think it's it's the willard stories funny but i think i think nowadays they've got a I think they've got a Memo of understanding with the dc police and they can they can put him up in dc jail if they really need to but It's going to be is going to be an interesting story when all of that starts flying. Well just out bennie thompson. The chair of the select committee democrat from mississippi. After the hearing yesterday came out and said we're not going to send letters were sending. We're starting right away with subpoena. So he made very clear yesterday after the hearing. We're not waiting. We're going to subpoenas going right away. He didn't say who yet but he made. He made explicitly clear that they're going to do exactly what you just said. Yeah i mean pe- people just you may remember that during the impeachment one Or pre impeachment won the the The i think it was the house. Judiciary committee attempted to get testimony. From don mcgann did bush's former white house counsel. He was no longer white house counsel with attempted to get his testimony Mcgann resisted the trump administration resisted They went to court began. It took almost two years before they could get mcgann in front of anyone to testify..
The Daily Beans
"don mcgann" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"In addition agents interviewed a lawyer of one of the friends agents also interviewed two potential witnesses to the episode alleged by miss miss ramirez. Here as well as one of her close friends the fbi did not identify three but two of them were kevin ganda and karen yara salvage now. They are now married and numerous ramirez. Mr cavanaugh in college. According to a lawyer briefed. On the matter mr ganda and monsieur salvage were each interviewed for more than two hours and although mr ganda was viewed as a potential witness to the episode. It's not clear whether their statements offered any support of ms ramirez account in addition the f. b. i. agents collected written statements that have been submitted to them from other people. Those statements were also sent to the white house and forwarded to the senate judiciary committee. The contents of the interviews have not been made public early thursday. The white house sent the summaries of the interviews to the judiciary committee which made them available to senators. Senators had this including white house and kuhn's now of course we didn't have control of the senate at that time. White house officials insisted that neither mcgann nor any other west wing were prohibited the fbi from interviewing them but some former law enforcement experts say it was an odd decision not to include the two people at the center of the controversy robert cromwell former fbi agent who oversaw sensitive background investigations of political appointees doubted. The agents decided not to interview. Dr blase mr cavanaugh. On their own. I don't think that was in the parameters of the request. He said that's what i would assume. It would be frustrating as an investigator. Yeah be frustrating if you were in the fbi. The nature of investigators is to get to the bottom line. You'd want to talk to both of them. So what happened to the house judiciary. Why didn't they discuss and investigate the white house after we won the majority. And why is everyone going after the fbi when it was this me. Now sorry just so you know. I don't understand what happened the house. Judiciary or the senate judiciary. The senators had this. They were given this information. And you know everyone's going after the fbi but it is the white house that made these decisions in particular seems like don mcgann trump wanted to go ahead and investigate everything and again was like now everyone is so eager to clothesline the fbi and the department of justice instead of the source of the bullshit. Which is don mcgann in this one. So let's investigate the entirety of the exercise from top to bottom. Do i think cavanaugh will be impeached. One hundred percent. No not in the senate not as it stands and i don't think there's a mechanism to declare appointment illegitimate and have him removed. That way bought a criminal investigation into the tips and to the white house should be conducted as well as an inspector general investigation into the white house lawyers. Mcgann's handling of the information they received from the fbi in the background inquiry. That's what's going on. Just want to put that out there and remind everybody of sort of what we were already talking about what we already knew. And how this blame has shifted from mcginn to the fbi all the sudden. Anyway we'll be right back with more news about the tom barrack indictment stay with us everybody. Ag for the beans. I used to dread making small talk at parties waiting in long lines at amusement parks but now i almost gonna miss them their signs that things are getting back to normal and i'm even looking forward to getting a little bit of a sunburn at the beach this summer but what helped me get through. All the weirdness is best fiends. My favorite game. I take it everywhere and it puts the crazy world on pause. It makes your brain field like it's lying on the beach all year long since i started.
The Daily Beans
"don mcgann" Discussed on The Daily Beans
"Transparency. We need information from our high government officials. And i don't think that's too much s now. It's not a number one for me. Is the insiders. Funders of the insurrection and number two for me is obstruction of justice. That even the extremely conservative. Bob muller said you could prosecute once he leaves office. He laid it out just so pretty. It's all there and there is no further investigation that needs to be conducted. Those are ready made charges for prosecution which gives me some frustration. And i'd like to know why mark merrick garland is not moving out. If there's a legitimate reason please tell us because the headlines are there. Yeah and they're in there. They're in black and white. The investigation has done. They've got additional testimony. Now from don mcgann which were the most regis obstruction of justice charges. That were laid out in volume two. They've got his testimony. I don't know if a criminal referrals been made. I haven't even heard if the inspector general is looking into this which seems to be his to move. Have the i g look at it and if something comes up maybe i'll take maybe i'll take a look but it is extremely frustrating but those are those are the two things i'll be looking out for so everybody check out justice matters glenn kirschner. I appreciate your time today. thank you everybody. stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. Hello everyone. it's alison from the beans recently. I upgraded my mattress. Got my he looks midnight. It's amazing as you know. But now i want the entire amazing sleep experience and that is why. I ordered some stuff from boll and branch. Oh my gosh. I was looking for the cream of the crop. That's what bollandbranch is they started with a mission to produce the highest quality sheets on the market and make the world a better place in the process. There ultra soft organic sheets not only look and feel absolutely incredible. They're also transparently sourced and produced in safe fair conditions. That's very big for us here. Daily beans by boll and branch sheets. Look and feel amazing. The ultra refined lux fabric is a spectacular drape and a silken..
Skullduggery
"don mcgann" Discussed on Skullduggery
"But how do we make sure it does not happen again in. Also it was frustrating. Michael during the impeachment trial we had the pressure coming down on us of a senate that understandably had to confirm joe biden's cabinet and his appointees and so there were constraints on us in that regard. There was the recognition that if donald trump in others refuse to testify at the senate trial we would spend years in court. Litigating those subpoenas in. I'm liberated from that in my lawsuit. I don't have those time constraints and time pressure and really in my pursuit of accountability. I'm not limited by that to get the truth by the way. What is the judgment that you're asking for here. I mean are you asking for like a sort of a one dollar judgement. Just symbolically make the point that this is about accountability. Or are you asking for some other kind of remedy. But we're not that state yet. Certainly we alleged the different torts of intentional infliction of emotional distress as well as impeding me from doing my duty and certainly that is one of the prayers for relief as they call them. There could be an injunction. There could be a financial penalty. It's certainly for me is mostly about accountability. And i'll let our loyal our legal team and the judges sort out where that ends up but right now it's really primarily about accountability and if you're tracking where are we right now. Each side is responding to the other side's filings around the motion to dismiss and that seems to be one of the biggest hurdles that we have to clear is to survive. They're motion to dismiss. And then you would go into the discovery process which is essentially you know us seeking evidence in the case seeking depositions from the parties to understand their complete ole. Let me just follow up. Because he's you said something interesting and it's also mentioned in your in your book. Which is the the incredible difficulty that congress has an institution has in getting discovery and in getting information. And your book. You mentioned an incident where a news organization filing a foia request got better access to data than congress. Did you just mentioned in your lawsuit. You're doing it because as as an individual congressperson just as an individual suing you have a better chance of discovery than congress does. I mean it really points out that congress's almost you know enfeebled as an independent investigative organization or entity nowadays is there. Is that a first of all. Do you concur with that kind of assessment of congress's role and is congress doing anything to change. That state reforms are needed. An atom shifts protect our democracy. Act that would essentially create a fast track. Four congressional subpoenas so you cannot don mcgann congress where you know in the spring of two thousand nineteen. The miller report comes out. Judiciary committee seized on mcgann as the central figure. Call him in to testify and it was just about a month ago that we actually were able to get him when all the way up to the supreme court before we were able to negotiate with the department of justice around his testimony. And and that's just wrong that you know when you have abuses of power that are alleged and people are able to just run out the clock. That congress isn't able to conduct its oversight authority that so yes that reform i think is needed also. No i did not file my lawsuit. Because i couldn't get we couldn't get information in the senate under saying because i'm seeking accountability. A benefit collateral benefit of. That is that i believe we will have better than congress did. In seeking discovery. Victoria was asking the kind of process question. About how you get the information but tell us about the information the evidence that you are seeking both in your own lawsuit and having been deeply involved in the impeachment investigation and then having been one of the managers in the senate trial. What is the key evidence. The key information that you're seeking that the american people still need to know about january sixth so sparingly there are a lot of gaps around what was donald trump doing the day of the attack it was. We saw the footage of the insurrection. Tailgate where they're all in the tent watching the footage of the mob moving from the ellipse up to the capital. But you know what was. Donald trump being told by national security and law enforcement officials. What decision points was he. Making regarding sending a what was he told in of course in the days before you know as these questions about should the national guard be dispatched foot limitation. Should they have had and then of course in the weeks before because we know for many many weeks. The trump campaign spent fifty million dollars on. Stop the steel. you know email and digital ads. How much direction was given by donald trump. Because he sent that to am tweets in mid december saying january. Six will be wild. And then there was just this barrage of tweets afterward. So what foreknowledge. Did he have about. Who was going to be there in. Why did he believe it was going to be so wild so we might think that you know that the january six committee that was just created would be a key player in figuring these sort of things out. But at as you've just noted congress's pretty toothless in terms of its ability to pursue subpoenas to be mcgann and if the shift and so. How much can we really expect. This january six committee to be able to uncover given how how handcuffed congresses. At getting information. I will say that they will be a little less tam cuff because now they will be subpoenaing. People who are no longer in office and so some of the protections they had don't exist any further but that doesn't mean they won't let a gate them and it will still take time. Because no i don't think anyone expects donald trump is just gonna walk in on his own accord. I don't think anyone expects that. I pointed out mark short in the book. You know we had a good lead. That marked short wanted to talk. He was mike pence at the capitol that day in sources. Were telling me and others that if you can get short end once you can call witnesses. He would be a good witness to give penn state of mind. Donald.
Mueller, She Wrote
"don mcgann" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote
"Muller she wrote and sign up today with talking about jill stein lending yourself ten dollars which is weird the straws questions from the fcc we have a department of justice under trump. Subpoenaing don mcgann. There's new evidence showing right wing groups posed as left-wing activists on social media to divide democrats An update from the special master in the rudy case and a military expert who believes putin will eventually leak what they had on trump plus we have some schadenfreude and of course fantasy indictment league. But let's kick it off with just the facts all right the top story. This week is an extension of what. I reported last week from a new york times that trump's department of justice had subpoenaed meta data from apple and microsoft for at least a dozen people associated with the house intelligence committee including swaths Biggie swallow swallow and shift and their families including a minor and their staff. Since that story broke we've learned. That don mcgann was also notified in. May that his metadata was subpoenaed by main justice under sessions and that a gag order. Much like the gag orders for cnn. The times and the washington post shift and swallow were renewed under bars department of justice Now of course this meta data. We've talked about that. We don't know exactly what the ins and outs are of this. So far but It's interesting though. That right around the time mcgann agreed to testify to the house. Judiciary dumbs That he. He was notified that his metadata was subpoenaed now from the new york. Times quoted is not clear. What f. b. i. Agents were investigating. Whether mr mcgann was there specific focus or whether he was swept up in a larger net because he had communicated with someone who is under scrutiny as the top lawyer for the two thousand sixteen trump campaign and then white house counsel mr mcgann was in contact with numerous people who may have drawn attention either as part of the russia investigations or a later leak inquiry still the disclosure that agents had collected data on a sitting white house counsel which was kept secret for years is extraordinary extraordinary indeed from the administration that wrongfully accused the obama administration of spying on his campaign. Of course the main difference between the russia investigation and the bar sessions. Subpoenas is something called criminal predication at least so far that we know the department of justice inspector general horwitz investigated the russia. Probe the oranges of the russia. Probe and determined there was sufficient criminal predication to open the investigation into trump campaign ties to russia. And now lisa. Monaco at the department of justice has officially tasked the same inspector general. That's horowitz with investigating the oranges of the bar sessions probe into democratic members of the house intelligence committee to determine if they had requisite criminal predication though he'll also be looking into the the subpoenas reporters information and also whether or not these were politically motivated corwin previously found the russia probe carter. Page five as a warrants. Were not politically motivated. But the senate and house judiciary dumbs are not keen to wait months for the inspector general's findings and have launched investigations into the issue of their own from the hill quote. The senate judiciary committee kicked off. Its investigation into subpoenas initiated under the trump administration asking the department of justice to turn over reams of documents as well as the justification for targeting to house. Democrats in a letter to attorney. General merrick garland lawmakers asked the department of justice to name names by listing the officials responsible for initiating the subpoenas of house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff and rep eric. Swallow quote these actions. By former president trump and attorney general bar raised additional concerns that the department of justice's investigative decisions in this case were motivated by improper political considerations. This letter that they wrote also asked the department to preserve all relevant materials noting that several officials who reportedly oversaw these overreaches remained at the department of justice including the handpicked prosecutor. That attorney general bar assigned to the case in february of two thousand twenty. The request comes the department of justice is scrambling to contain the fallout following. The news that under the trump department under the trump administration the department sees the records not only of lawmakers but also reports from three news outlets and former white house counsel don mcgann the The initial inquiry from the senate judiciary focus is squarely on the lawmakers asking the department to explain quote factual and legal product predicate for targeting the two members along with other staff and family members as well as the process for obtaining the subpoenas it asks the department of justice to disclose if it sought the records of any other lawmakers. We will see. How merrick garland response to this request from senate judiciary all eleven. Dem's with regards to the senate judiciary from greg sargent at the washington post quote president. Joe biden's justice department is an undeniably difficult position given the epoch corruption of the department by his predecessor. Donald trump Maximum transparency and accountability are now imperative but this will inevitably clash with a departments under stand -able desire to cling to certain institutional prerogatives senate democrats have a key role to play in pushing the department toward transparency and accountability. And they are doing so prompted by the department's highly questionable refusal to release the full memo that purportedly justified bars decision not to charge trump with criminal obstruction of justice in the russia scandal. All eleven democrats on the senate judiciary fired off a letter to merrick calling on him to release this memo in full with no reductions led by dick durbin. The committee chair they argue that precedence and transparency require it. That's why we're here to ramp up public interest and to pressure garland to do the right thing. I'm still not giving up on in prosecuting trump's obstruction of justice charges. That's essential to set the precedent that a president cannot obstruct justice and get away with it and despite how conservative muller was. That's what he intended. I can't imagine garland would ignore that in the interest of a moving forward as it were we will see. I'd like to encourage everyone to withhold judgment until they actually makes decision on whether or not to charge trump and to continue to be loud about wanting him to if we push our senators and representatives they will push the department of justice we right back with more headlines from the week..
Skimm This
"don mcgann" Discussed on Skimm This
"They weren't allowed to say anything about it until this year. Those people weren't the only targets of these secret subpoenas as part of this leak investigation. The trump administration also sees the phone of journalists at major news outlets like the new york times. Cnn and the washington post and the new york times reported this week. That trump's white house counsel don mcgann also had his data subpoenaed. But it's still unclear why the doj was looking into him. These secret subpoenas that trump's doj handed out and apple's cooperation are now coming under scrutiny. As people say this all seems pretty sketchy q. The current white house aggressively distancing itself from this attorney general merrick garland met with news organizations on monday saying the doj will no longer sees reporters records as part of leak investigations. Meanwhile the doj's independent watchdog will also be launching. Its own investigation. So stay tuned okay. Here's our next and final headline a dangerous. Heatwave is set to scorch massive parts of the country this week. Here's the context. Forty million people in the us are on alert for a long and potentially deadly heat wave heat. Waves are common in the summer but they keep getting hotter and longer because of climate change this week. Temperatures are breaking records all over the west and this latest spike has a lot of people concerned about power outages grid operators in california and in texas which already suffered a deadly power failure earlier this year after a winter storm are telling residents limit your power usage. Now these rising temps also come as a lot of the southwest is already in one of the worst droughts in modern history and when things get even hotter things get even drier that increases the risk of wildfires and considering there are already fires burning in arizona california and yellowstone national park. The west is on high.
The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"don mcgann" Discussed on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell
"Reported a twist on the trump subpoenas story this weekend reporting that in twenty eighteen. The trump justice department subpoenaed apple to provide the telephone records. Of the trump white house counsel don mcgann today house judiciary committee chairman jerry. Nadler announced the committee would conduct an investigation into such subpoenas issued by the trump justice department which also targeted the phone records of two democratic members of the house intelligence committee chairman. Adam schiff and congressman eric swallow. The subpoenas also demanded the phone records of at least one staff member of the house intelligence committee and a child today. The democratic members of the senate judiciary committee sent a detailed letter to attorney. General merrick garland demanding a copy of each subpoena all documents and communications and putting emails text messages and calendar entries related to the subpoenas joining us now is democratic senator sheldon whitehouse of rhode island. He is a member of the senate judiciary committee who signed that letter. To the attorney general today senator. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. We really appreciate it. The your letter to the attorney. General gives him two weeks to deliver these documents. What happens if he doesn't well. The house can move more or less immediately to a sap nine because they have their own members involved. I think they may be willing to do that. We have more complicated procedures in the senate at fifty fifty but that would be the next. Stop trying to work through our procedures to get a subpoena as well as a former prosecutor yourself. Do you see any Why the attorney. General can simply hand over those documents to you tomorrow. No he can may be Things that would be blacked out. In order to protect the anonymity of witnesses and things like that ordinarily take a run at a member of congress. You're not going to do so without predication Department allow you to proceed without predication. Ordinarily somewhere those memos and if there were witnesses who gave you that predication you might want to protect them. So they're reasons the blocks are art submit. But you know. I mean a subpoenas usually released to the Person who's subpoenaed at the end of the day so that certainly not very private and You know the department wants to get a lot of people through the senate so if they start playing hardball with us spend Good luck with your nominations. Well one position they're going to need to get confirmed is the one being vacated. Now by a trump appointee john moore's who was the apparently An assistant attorney general. Who may have had control over these subpoenas. Yeah we'll we have to find that out. It's a little bit strange. Ordinarily these go before a special committee in the department of justice or investigations that touch on serious concerns. If you wanna run an investigation into a church you wanna run investigation into way news outlet if you wanna run. Investigation against elected official usually have special clearance. And so we'd be looking for. The description of how bad clearance was obtained whether this was done as a national security matter within the nationals. Dirty division criminal matter is a lot that has not yet banana stirred in one really big question all of this but all of the fbi. Ordinarily these matters goes through the fbi an fbi agent is directly involved in this and so director. Ray has some questions to answer just as much of artisan rosenstein cuts. Let's imagine for a second that this information became public day before. Merrick garland confirmation hearing. What question would you have asked him about this while out of asked him a question very like the questions that i did ask him. Which is you gonna open up. The department of justice start answering our questions and eliminate the policy we had under the trump administration of no democratic questions get answered and politically sensitive republican questions. Get a special fast lane out of the fbi. Also get your reaction tonight to mitch. Mcconnell basically saying if the republicans get control of the united states senate they will not confirm any a biden chosen supreme court justice. The stunning part about that is that he's willing to say it out loud you know. He might wanna have that secret thought with him. Little cabal of elite republican billionaire donors the fact that he's willing to say out loud shows restaurant how little respect to have for our ability to tangle with them and take them on for making admission like that and second pow just like playing over visits. I think she's planning audience of a very small group of big billionaire donor. Rabbe plan to try to take over as much control of the united states. Government is they can and they're target is the supreme court new will do mitchell do anything in his power to hand supreme court over as much as he care to that little donor cabal now he said that based on the possibility of the republicans winning the senate through elections in twenty twenty two so that would block two years of potential of biden nominations to the supreme court but the truth is it history shows the republicans could conceivably get control of the senate. Next week we have seen plane. Crashes and other forms of sudden deaths of senators line. sir. Yep what. I served senate so so. We really are at all times a heartbeat away from a republican control so presumably if the republicans got control of the senate next month it would apply right now. It would apply for the rest of the biden presidency. no supreme court confirmations. Look the most important thing.
MSNBC Morning Joe
"don mcgann" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe
"The pentagon papers were was. It was a major major american event. Jon meacham a half century later. What's the legacy the pentagon papers. Lucia spirited prison within the government In fact the commissioning of the study was And then we have to have the courage of face facts. We can't become active to our own ideology barrow narrative to are wishful thinking. Eleanor roosevelt once said the besetting sin of the american people is wishful thinking and a gone papers. Tell us that followed the truth. We have to have the courage to stay after it. Pursue it publish. It and a healthy democracy understands weaknesses and addresses. Kurt anderson john brings up such a great point in my house. We were all republicans we all love the nixon. We all believed that the world was chaotic. I say we my mom and dad. I was playing. T-ball is about five years old six years old but still there. Was that feeling around the house. We watch cronkite every night. I always joke. My dad said cronkite was a communist when he said that's the way it was. My dad believed him and my dad. My dad was was entrenched. Just like i know a lot of people are right now for donald trump but it was this constant hammering. This constant hammering that the media did. And i remember the morning. I was eating cereal. My dad read looked at the newspaper and he finally said after years probably going all the way back to the alger hiss case. He finally looked put down the papers and he quietly said if this man has done half of what they say he's done he should be thrown in jail. That was a twenty twenty five year old journey for my father but it was the media. It was this type of reporting that finally made my father put down that newspaper and say nixon should go to jail. It was shocking to me. But i understood it much later on but what we're talking about this morning a lot of times we think it doesn't matter it dies. It does have an impact getting the truth out there and putting it all on the line i think we had. That sounds like we have the same dad. Back then Joe my my father was the same way back and and the thing about also the pentagon papers and this month. The supreme court hurt and decided this case at the end of the month. This was a two weeks where it might have gone the other way and we would have had in the united states versus the new york. Times might have gone the other way and we would have a different country today and it was also the time when richard nixon began. He didn't use the trump phrase enemy of the people that the press was but that was how he shifted. And that was really when when the right in this country started going down that long pass or thinking of the press as it's true enemy as traitors all that the other thing just a you know. We've been talking a lot about the washington post this week. The other amazing thing about the washington post this week is the company went. Public katharine graham on this monday. Fifty years ago took had her. Can you imagine the stress in the day that we ending and had to do this. As you say heroic thing we're publishing. I'm going to make my friends angry. And we're going to go forward because it was important to get out. And again as we see all of the attempts these days recently to to bug and marginalized reporters and journalists by the trump administration and find their notes and and get their electronic records. And all that i. It's a reminder that this this kind of approach really began years ago was richard nixon. I mean the line from trump vietnam to watergate and then the two of them to kind of anything to win trumpism is just clear. That's what we try to do. In and history does repeat itself. jon meacham. We've been talking about the trump administration getting data records from reporters. I remember mort halperin actually The help had their home phone line. Bugged for nineteen twenty twenty one months he was a member of the nixon administration and they bugged his phone for twenty one months. And now we're finding out that don mcgann was also targeted by the trump administration. And you're hearing bar Sessions and all these other trump administration officials saying they knew nothing about it so it seems that here. We are fifty years later reading stories. It sound a lot like they came out of nineteen seventy-one nineteen seventy-two. Oh absolutely no the phrase for. I think it's our time who said called the but most of watergate is the white house horrors right just one thing after another and the ratings the me the great lesson of watergate is it was a case where the system broke and then the system repaired itself and this is hugely important for where we are now right because it was barry goldwater i. It was john rhodes it was Republicans in the house and in the senate and to go to your bar. Sessions point elliot. Richardson bill ruggles house and people in the justice department. Who said no. The constitution is more important than the passing temporary favor of the occupant of the lighthouse house. That sounds very grand but these guys did it in real time. They broke with their party. They broke with their personal interests and put the constitution ahead of their personal interests and their party interest. That's not some homeric owed to lost golden bipartisanship. Mrs nice not that. It's a real human drama. It was a close run thing as well instead of waterloo. But they did it to the question now is who are those republicans in the house and in the senate and the justice department win the pendulum's swings again we will in fact stand up and say no assistant is more important than my personal interest. Well and susan page. There's quite a bit of reporting to do right now. The question is if bar if sessions if they weren't involved in this if they didn't approve this thin who approved the bugging of phones the collection of data phone data from political opponents in the opposing party. And now again. This morning we're hearing about don mcgann. Who was the person that that recommended the same thing inside the trump administration if the attorneys general all at the time didn't support that move so they attorneys general. If it's true as they are saying that they didn't know is that reassuring or is it alarming because somebody knew that they were doing some democratic members of congress and the white house counsel. You know if you're thinking about echoes of watergate enemies list because this is look we need to know more. We need to investigate but this is looking like there was an enemies list in the trump justice department against critics of president trump not because of national security grounds but because of political considerations so very much We are not fifty years past. But we're not in a new and different place. Susan page and jon meacham. Thank you very much and kurt anderson. Thank you as well. The new podcast is entitled nixon at war. I can't wait can't wait till listen to that. That's extraordinarily tastic..
World News Tonight with David Muir
"don mcgann" Discussed on World News Tonight with David Muir
"Netanyahu's allies trying to drown him out. Many ejected from the chamber of cooling bennett a former netanyahu protege a traitor outraged bennett's governing coalition will formally include for the first time in israel's history members of an independent arab party netanyahu speaking for the last time is prime minister listing his achievements arguing that his replacement is too weak to keep israel safe even regarding solid the us and the biden administration declaring the prime minister of israel needs to be able to say no to the president of the united states on issues that threaten our existence or wait mile coastal negative. When it came the vote could not have been closer sixty. Two fifty nine bought never wanted to go down without a fight. he made a vow exclusive. It's vow new. Prime minister bennett will likely take seriously. He has a majority of just one seat. I'm not now who has won power from the opposition twice before well tonight. President biden congratulated bennett in a phone. Call to the new prime minister lindsay. Julia thank you. We are now learning more about the trump justice department and a newly revealed secret gathering of information back in february of two thousand eighteen. The doj saw data from apple accounts connected to white house counsel don mcgann and his wife is comes on the heels of recent allegations that the doj secretly obtained data from accounts belonging to to congressional democrats. Here's abc's white. House correspondent maryalice parks tonight. Abc news confirming that the justice department in twenty eighteen issued subpoenas to apple including requesting records. From then white house counsel don mcgann and his wife and apple complied. It's not clear whether mcgann was the subject of an investigation or connected to someone who was at the time special counsel robert muller was investigating links between the trump campaign and russia and doj was looking into leaks of classified information to but still unknown. What led investigators. to request. mcgann's records. Mcgann was a link between the white house and the doj and often reportedly the subject of president. Trump's frustrations especially after mcgann says he ignored trump when trump wanted muller fired. The latest news first reported by the new york times coming just days after reports that trump's doj also ordered apple to turn over personal account. Data from eric swallow and adam schiff to democratic members of congress on the house intelligence committee and fierce critics of the former president. The inspector general of the department of justice last week announcing it's investigating those requests today speaker. Nancy pelosi's saying trump's former attorneys general should be prepared to testify about possible abuse of power administration. Did the justice department leadership of the former president goes even beyond richard. Nixon pursued an enemies list. This is about undermining the rule of law our sources say that apple only notified mcginn and his wife abound all of this last month when a court imposed gag order expired neither apple mcgann nor former. President trump has responded to our requests for comment lindsay. Many remaining tight lipped on this maryalice. Thank you next to a rise in mass shootings injustice six hour period this weekend in four cities austin cleveland savannah in chicago. A total of five dead thirty nine wounded chicago has been especially bloody at least thirty. Two people shot three killed since friday. These scenes from saturday ten people shot one died. When gunmen approached a group standing on the south side. Street corner there have been more than two hundred sixty mass shootings this year. There is a gripping murder mystery unfolding. In south carolina to members of prominent and powerful legal family found dead on a sprawling estate authorities are desperately searching for leads. Here's abc's kenneth moten tonight. Investigators working to unravel steriods. Double homicide involving south carolina's most prominent legal families. Twenty two year. old palmer da and it's fifty two year old mother. Maggie found shot to death last week outside the family's hunting lodge on their sprawling estate in rural collin county the victims part of a legal and political dynasty. Three generations of myrtle men serving as top prosecutors in the region. Paul's father and maggie's husband alex myrdal also an attorney. The family's power house legal firm and part-time prosecutor palmer was awaiting trial accused of being under the influence twenty nineteen and crashing a boat killing nineteen year old passenger mallory beach the beach family extending deepest and warmest sympathies to the murdoch family state. Investigators saying little about the murders but insists there's no danger to the public but still lindsay no suspects in this case authorities haven't released autopsy results palmer murdoch and his mother maggie relate to rest. Friday lizzy can thank you growing pressure from missouri. Legislators calling on the governor. Mike parson part a man who the prosecutor's office says was wrongfully convicted of murder. Back in nineteen seventy eight. I traveled to missouri prison. Where sat down with kevin strickland. He has spent the past forty three years of his life behind bars. Convicted of triple murder back in two thousand nine. The prosecution star witness recanted her testimony. And those who confessed. The crime told police strickland was not involved. How does it feel to know that. The two people who admit they were responsible for the crime bell adkins. They've already served their time ten years each. They did it. They said they did it. You say you didn't do it in here. You sit unbelievable. I mean how could somebody admit to doing it. Come in and go out. And i denied it from the store and i'm still here. Strickland says he wakes up hopeful each day that it could be the day of his release and they're still much more ahead on world news tonight.
AP News
"don mcgann" Discussed on AP News
"An AP source says the Justice Department secretly subpoenaed Don McGann's records, Apple informed former Trump White House counsel Don McGahn and his wife that the Justice Department had subpoenaed information about accounts that belonged to them in 2018. That's according to a person familiar with the matter. The disclosure comes days after two House lawmakers disclosed they, too had their information secretly subpoenaed. It's not clear yet why the Trump administration sought them against records, but the others Were part of a leak probe related to the Russia investigation. I'm Shelley Antler. Apple informed former Trump White House counsel Don McGahn and his wife that the Justice Department had subpoenaed information about accounts that belonged to them in 2018. That's according to a person familiar with the matter. The disclosure comes days after two House lawmakers disclosed they, too had their information secretly subpoenaed. It's not clear yet why the Trump administration sought them a Ganz records but the others were part of a leak probe. Related to the Russia investigation. I'm Shelley Adler G seven Summit. I'm Shelley and her with an A P news minute. President Joe Biden is taking a series of subtle jabs at Donald Trump at the end of the Group of Seven summit in England. After four years of America. First America is back in the business of leading the world alongside nations who share Our most deeply held values. President Biden also highlighted very fundamental differences with his predecessor over climate change. Some of my colleagues said to me when I was there was Well. The United States is leadership recognized there is global warming. And I know that sounds silly, but you know, we had a president of last two basically said it's not a problem from a warming. It is the existential problems facing humanity. Next stop for Biden is the NATO summit Monday. There's a new leader in Israel. The parliament there has narrowly voted in favor of a new coalition government ending Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's historic 12 year rule. The new leader is enough. Tali Bennett, a former ally of Netanyahu, who became A bitter rival, Shelley Adler, AP News Thank you for listening to the AP Radio Network. Hey,.
WGN Radio
"don mcgann" Discussed on WGN Radio
"His nation this hour. I'm Roger Bradish. Kindergartens across the nation are bracing for a surge in the fall because the pandemic kept Children away. AP correspondent Julie Walker has more. Steven Barnett is the co director of the National Institute for Early Education Research at Rutgers University. The kindergarten teacher's job is going to be a lot harder in the fall. The classes will be larger Children will be less well prepared. Uh, they're probably going to be stress, he says. To help prepare them. Parents can get kids into summer programs and make sure they socialize with others. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has underlined a long list of agreements at this weekend's G seven meeting, Johnson has announced. The G seven wealthy nations have pledged over one billion coronavirus vaccine doses for poor relations, half of them coming from the US, calling it another big step towards vaccinating the world. He also praised the unity of G seven nations at least weekends Cubby Space summit. There has been a fantastic degree of harmony. Johnson also spoke. The need for combined action to help the world recover from the economic impact of the pandemic. An AP source says the Justice Department secretly subpoena Don McGann's records AP Correspondent Shelley Adler reports Apple inform former Trump White House counsel Don McGahn and his wife that the Justice Department had subpoenaed information about accounts that belonged to them in 2018. That's according to a person familiar with the matter. The disclosure comes days after two House lawmakers disclosed a two Had their information secretly subpoenaed. It's not clear yet why the Trump administration sought the McGann's records, but the others were part of a leak probe related to the Russia investigation. Israel's parliament approved the end to the 12 year rule of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, replacing him with a former ally. Enough Tali Bennett by news nation on your cable or satellite provider and stay up to date around the clock at news nation Now calm and on the news nation now,.
WGN Radio
"don mcgann" Discussed on WGN Radio
"The fall because of pandemic kept Children away. AP correspondent Julie Walker has more. Steven Barnett is the co director of the National Institute for Early Education Research at Rutgers University. The kindergarten teacher's job is going to be a lot harder in the fall. The classes will be larger Children will be less well prepared. Uh, they're probably going to be stress, he says. To help prepare them. Parents can get kids into summer programs and make sure they socialize with others. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has underlined a long list of agreements at this weekend's G seven meeting, Johnson has announced. The G seven wealthy nations have pledged over one billion coronavirus vaccine doses for poor relations, half of them coming from the US, calling it another big step towards vaccinating the world. He also praised the unity of G seven nations. At least weekends copy space summit. There has been a fantastic degree of harmony. Johnson also spoke. The need for combined action to help the world recover from the economic impact of the pandemic. An AP source says the Justice Department secretly subpoena Don McGann's records AP Correspondent Shelley Adler reports Apple inform former Trump White House counsel Don McGahn and his wife that the Justice Department had subpoenaed information about accounts that belonged to them in 2018. That's according to a person familiar with the matter. The disclosure comes days after two House lawmakers disclosed a two Have their information secretly subpoenaed. It's not clear yet why the Trump administration sought the McGann's records, but the others were part of a leak probe related to the Russia investigation. Israel's parliament approved the end to the 12 year rule of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, replacing him with a former ally. Enough Tali Bennett by news nation on your cable or satellite provider and stay up to date around the clock at news nation Now calm and on the news nation now,.
AP News Radio
Don Mcgann, Justice Department And Don Mccann discussed on AP News Radio
"An AP source says the justice department secretly subpoenaed don McCann's records apple informed former trump White House counsel don McGann and his wife that the justice department had subpoenaed information about accounts that belong to them in twenty eighteen that's according to a person familiar with the matter the disclosure comes days after two house lawmakers disclose they to have their information secretly subpoenaed it's not clear yet by the trump administration sought them against records but the others were part of a leak probe related to the Russia investigation I'm Shelley handler
AP News Radio
Democrat Says Trump Counsel Recounted 'Troubling Events'
"Top Democrats on the house Judiciary Committee say they heard about some troubling events from Donald trump's former White House counsel but Republican lawmakers don't agree the house Judiciary Committee questioned former White House counsel don McGann all day behind closed doors two years after they sought his testimony in the impeachment case against Donald Trump committee vice chair Madeleine dean says McCann's testimony brought to life the pages of the molar report into the trump campaign's alleged ties to Russia and whether the former president tried to obstruct the investigation that which is going on the pressure that he was under the pressure that other aides were under by the president how to direct rod Rosenstein to oust as special counsel Mahler but Florida Republican congressman Matt Gaetz says we've learned nothing new it's not clear what the committee will do with the information but one lawmaker says it's important to study the past to plan for the future I'm Jackie Quinn
Trump, Inc.
The Washington Post claims President Trump made 12019 false or misleading claims over 928 days
"Beyond personal plays along. She also seems to know exactly. What's up with a wink and a nudge? Trump has been making the press and the public complicit in his lies since forever. Take the two thousand seven launch of trump vodka a great tasting and. I'm very proud of the fact. Actually that I don't drink but you see what he did there too great tasting dot com. And I'm very proud of the fact that I don't drink but it's a vodka that people really like it you know it's taken off. Like the only place. Trump vodka took off was Israel where it was marketed. As Kosher for Passover an investigation by the Jerusalem Post found some trump vodka was not kosher And when they joined the trump organization trump's children also learned to spin hyperbole and deception. We have many projects that are actually selling. I talked forty units in Panama Panama. We sold it a five hundred percent premium anything. The luxury market had ever experienced prior to our entry when it comes to the trump organization misrepresentations were frequent now. Trump is doing the same as president since January twentieth. Two Thousand Seventeen. We have been documenting every false. Or misleading statement made by President Trump. Glenn Kessler is editor of The Washington. Post fact checker. He spoke with trump INC producer Catherine Sullivan in August. And how many Arab to today as of today so as of August fifth the numbers. Twelve Thousand Nineteen Kessler says. The PACE has picked up dramatically from about five lines a day to around twenty from the family separation policy. President Obama separated the children to voter fraud. Which is extremely rare. Vote many times not just twice not just three times and they vote. It's like a circle. They come back. They put a new hat on. They come back. They put a new shirt on and in many cases. They don't even do that. He tells defensive I never told Don mcgann to fire muller no collusion. No obstruction was a complete and total. Exoneration Andy Fudges seemingly inconsequential stuff. My father's from Germany Both of my parents are from the E. U Fred trump was born in the bronx father's German right was German and Born in a very wonderful place in Germany I so I have a be used to be. One lie could badly hurt. President trump repeats his lies like it's dare just announced they're expanding or building sex. They're opening up seven other plans. Steel is opening up a minimum of eight plants. Steel building eight or nine
Nightside with Dan Rea
Judges struggle over Trump bid to block McGahn congressional testimony
"With an eye on impeachment judges in Washington are weighing disputes between house Democrats on the trump administration federal appellate judges are struggling with the decision on whether to grant house Democrats demands for testimony from former White House counsel don McGann arguments before two separate panels stretched over several hours Democrats are also seeking access to secret grand jury materials from the special counsel's investigation Democrats say the evidence could be relevant to president trump's impeachment judge Thomas Griffith who sat on both panels seemed open arguments the court should stay out of the scuffle between Congress and the White House over against testimony at least two of the judges appear troubled by the ministrations claim that began in other advisers have absolute immunity from a congressional
Glenn Beck
House lawyers leave door open to new articles of impeachment against President Trump
"Well the impeachment effort apparently isn't over in fact the houses thinking about filing more articles of impeachment against president trump attorneys for the democratic controlled house of representatives say the impeachment of president trump does not make a subpoena issued to White House counsel don McGann moot in a filing to a federal appeals court the house argues the Judiciary Committee still has an interesting hearing from again about events described in special counsel Robert Muller Russia report writing if against testimony produces new evidence the house could proceed to new articles of impeachment the justice department is asking an appeals court to dismiss the case arguing there's now no reason for judges to be involved in a political
The KFBK Morning News
House lawyer says President Trump could be impeached again
"Attorney for the house Judiciary Committee suggested Democrats made drafted new articles of impeachment against president trump if the new evidence comes to light the revelations come as part of court documents as part of the ongoing fight over the testimony of former White House counsel don McGann let's find out more now with ABC's Erin to Turkey up what additional charges are they looking out or are they even getting that specific so far now they're they're they're they're not looking at any additional charges this is really far and it comes with so many if but in a court document that was filed Monday as part of the ongoing fight over the testimony of former White House counsel done again a lawyer for the house of representatives suggested the Democrats may recommend new articles of impeachment if new evidence supporting the conclusion that president trump committed impeachable offenses comes to light the the the house committee said that again testimony remained urgent and maybe he has some additional evidence of the president's alleged struck obstruction of justice how long can they keep keep the investigation just open ended yeah I mean definitely not really open it that's the thing has nothing to do with the impeachment inquiry that out just went through nothing this is about done again the former White House counsel in testimony the house Judiciary Committee has sought since some other dates and I think that the lawyers tying the two together and saying okay if he testifies we find some things well then you know we'd go weekly you know perhaps you know taken a look at another article of impeachment but one is wholly separate from the other end and so I don't want to confuse everything this is a big series of if the court hello I'm again to testify if he says something that you could give up with critical conduct if the Judiciary Committee decides to pick it up at if they somehow get another article of impeachment I mean it sounds almost yeah I like I said it sounds really
Erin Burnett OutFront
House says it needs Don McGahn's testimony for Senate trial and because Trump could face more articles of impeachment
"Tonight House Democrats saying they're open to impeaching president president trump again. The House counsel pushing for testimony from former White House Attorney Don mcgann in federal court in federal court filing today arguing. His testimony is critical article as it could lead to new new articles of impeachment. This comes as the justice. Department is arguing. The court should stay out of the fight as impeachment is already going on Shimon Peres out front with with with much more on this first. All folks are going to a second impeachment. Are you serious but what is this all about. It's really about precedent for Congress. This is all about being able to get information formation that they believe they are entitled to and in fact some federal judges and this is why this is now in the appeals process have cited with Congress Saying saying that the president is not immune from the scrutiny. That members of Congress have put him now that he's under now because of the investigations In Congress so there are two things going on here and the first thing is is that the judiciary committee which has been looking into the entire Russian investigation the also the obstruction of justice. The extension of the Muller Investigation. They still want the Don mcgann testimony and they still Don mcgann to come in and testify. Obviously for Don mcgann He doesn't they WANNA do that. He's waiting to hear how the courts ultimately decide. But what makes him so important. He was one of the most prominent witnesses in the entire Muller investigation certainly certainly as a related to the obstruction issue. He spent thirty hours with Muller. There's a lot of information that you think that he can provide the other thing is that they want this information because they they say that it could help them in their process certainly in their impeachment because of the they say this shows that the president his past in previous interaction certainly when it comes to influence from foreign countries and also the obstruction issue. And so they're saying they need this information to all now. Obviously in the Appeals Court We'll see they do say as you point out that. Listen if there's information that they can get Regarding began that they can use That could potentially can lead to more Articles of impeachment. They would do that politically. I don't know if that's going to happen. But certainly the lawyers for the for. Congress are suggesting that that that could possibly happen to see you. Thank you so much all right. Everyone's back with me Corey. You've got I mean I don't know Carr Heads GonNa idea idea like more articles of impeachment coming forward but before that happens. What do you think of this that? The House has the need mcgann's testimony because it could lead the new information that could lead to more articles of impeachment. I really look. I think we absolutely need another article of impeachment on obstruction of justice. Mr Muller outlined ten instances the report of obstruction of justice. And the only reason why he didn't file criminal charges against the president is because they're a department of Justice memos that say were wrongly in my opinion that you can't indict diet sitting president but Hamilton and others who supported that idea of immunity. It was a controversial idea. Even at the founding people disagreed with it his point was that the reason for the immunity eighty is that impeachment has to come first that it's a constitutional obligation to remove criminal president so that he or she then can be tried after removed from office and the assumption was of course. That
The Lead with Jake Tapper
House Dems raise prospect of new impeachment articles, in court battle over McGahn testimony
"We're back now with the politics. Lead House Democrats insisting they still need the testimony of former White House counsel Don mcgann because their investigation into whether president trump obstructed justice continues and could in theory lead to additional articles of impeachment that is in response to a filing overnight from the Justice Department which argues the courts should avoid weighing in mcgann while an impeachment. Trial is pending. WanNa bring a CNN senior. Justice correspondent Evan Evan. DOJ also saying that since hence the articles of impeachment do not include obstruction of justice. which they want to hear from Don mcgann about his testimony is irrelevant at this point? Does right Erica in the articles of impeachment. There's only one cursory Sort of reference to the mother investigation. And and that's one reason why the Justice Department says that the courts first of all should stay out of. It's been their argument for for some months. Now that the that the court should play no role in a fight that is between Congress and the White House but The heart of this says the importance of all of this big question which is can. The president give absolute immunity to his close aides. That's what the president is arguing that these people don't even have to show up to To in response to a subpoena from from Congress in this case Don mcgann who as you know it was a was the former White House counsel and was unimportant Horton witness in the obstruction of justice. Part of the Muller investigation well and the houses also arguing that it needs muller grand jury secrets to show in the Senate impeachment impeachment trial President Trump's pattern of soliciting interference and obstruction right. Exactly that's the one reference that they make in the articles of impeachment that have already been approved proved but the question here is you know what does this matter for for any other parts of the of what the what the House Democrats are doing. And I think what the courts are struggling ogling with And you know certainly what the administration is trying to exploit here is the fact that the Democrats have have already voted for these articles of impeachment. And the answer is from the House. Democrats is we can always impeach him again. Essentially we can add more articles of impeachment In addition to the ones that have already been approved. Be Interesting to see how that would would work. Evan Perez appreciate it as always. Thank you C. N. N. legal analyst Joe Jackson back with me now. So let's start with what we heard from the Justice Department. These arguments again filed overnight tonight to those arguments. Water depends who you ask the panther you sitting next to write from a department of Justice Loy. Eric I'm going to say absolutely they do. They carry the day but let's just try to evaluate it objectively. I think the core clearly has a place here. Why you can't on the one hand argue that you know what mcgann is absolutely immune? He's not going to go to Congress because I say so. If you don't like that go to the court okay. So then we go to the court and then you get a district court ruling that says that presidents we elect them. We don't elect kings or anything else. He has to testify. But if there are specific issues that you feel a privilege that you feel fall into illegal exception he could cite that at the time of his testimony and and then of course now you say well no. It's going to impede upon what we're doing here. I don't think it's a credible argument. Look as long as we get paid to make arguments we get paid to support clients and what they want us have as do as long as those arguments we call frivolous meaning. They have no merit but I think at the end of the day. It's really not a legitimate argument to make that the court has no place. It may impede upon the impeachment proceedings and therefore hold off. Hold the phone. Don't do it. I just think that Da. No I do I mean what. What else is it's it's it's been complete stall? We know that Congress has a responsibility and that responsibility includes getting information from the executive so to your point in terms of Congress has a responsibility the the house we just heard is saying. Listen part of the reason that we need to hear from Don mcgann is that we are not done investigating and there could be more articles have been preserved very well may yeah I mean it's premature right. I think they have to get through this. There's been an impeachment. We'll see what happens now. The Senate trial in terms of whether there's actually more evidence and information and facts and will all those facts. Erica actually matter but sure I mean look if you do something that's impeachable. The House has a role to ferret out what that is and to the extent that mcgann has critical information that that he has not conveyed because he's being held and not to testify. I think the court should make a ruling. They should proceed. You think they should make a ruling just quickly do you think mcgann again and other important. Witnesses could be compelled to testify. I I don't see it. I mean I think they should be but at the rate this is going. Are you talking about the Senate trial for purposes of the Senate trial. Well I think that's completely in the arm of one Mitch. McConnell the Senate majority leader. I think he'll call the shots
WSJ What's News
House Democrats Announce Articles of Impeachment
"The House Democrats announced two articles of impeachment against President trump including abuse of power. Judiciary Committee Chair jerrold Nadler made the announcement is an impeachable offense for the president. Is it into exercise the powers of his public office to obtain an improper personal benefit while ignoring or in injuring during the national interest. That is exactly what President Trump did when he solicited and pressured Ukraine to interfere in our two thousand twenty presidential election thus damaging our national security undermining the integrity of the next election and violating his oath to the American people the second article relates to obstruction of Congress. Democrats alleged president trump prevented at least nine officials goals from testifying and blocked the federal government from sharing documents with lawmakers joining me. Now Is Wall Street Journal reporter Chaban Hughes Chevron what can you tell us about. Democrats strategy in narrowing down to two articles of impeachment against the President and Democrats had a couple of big goals. They wanted to keep their caucus together and they wanted to present a case to the American people that was clear and muddled both of those goals. Help explain why. Democrats limited their articles of impeachment only to focus on obstruction of congress and abuse of power. For what was left out was a charge of obstruction of justice and what's significant about that is obstruction of justice. Is the charge that would have covered did donald trump's actions as detailed and special counsel Robert Muller's report and that report. Mr Muller painted a picture of a president who obstructed justice on at least five occasions according to an analysis by Democrats and others that includes trying to get then White House is counsel Don mcgann to force Robert Mueller out of office to basically take him off of the probe and then in other cases to try to get Mr Muller to narrow his probe that focused only on future meddling and what happened in twenty sixteen for a lot of Democrats especially the thirty one democrats in the district's but Donald Trump won. That would have been a bridge too far it would have been a stretch. Some of those Democrats had said the only reason they were willing to vote for articles. Live impeachment this time with because of the Ukraine probe. Not because of anything that had happened before. And then and that's he Pelosi wanted to keep her caucus together. I'm glad you mentioned that. Because of course this impeachment inquiry is proceeding against the backdrop of heading into the two thousand twenty elections. And I'm curious how much that plays into to the calculus here in terms of which articles to seek and how for Democrats are willing to go here. Democrats have publicly stated that their their motivations are not at all political that they're acting out of a desire to really stand up for the constitution. But it's pretty clear that electoral L. Politics are certainly in the backdrop and that it does help. Democrats limit their risk by focusing only on two articles of impeachment. uh-huh it inoculate them from charges. That Democrats are broadly negative against Mr Trump and are willing to throw an entire book. Look at him without thoughtfulness consideration. Chaban as we look forward to potentially seeing this on the House floor. How might those electoral politics play out out there? Well in a couple of ways most prominently. The politics will play out in terms of the number of votes that has democrats amass. Nancy Pelosi has a reputation for never bringing something to the floor. That won't pass. She said unless you're passing legislation or resolutions. All you're doing is having a conversation but there is still the risk that some of those thirty one democrats could break with her. So what we are watching for are the numbers of Democrats who ended up defecting and then both parties have been saying that the Senate is unlikely to impeach the president we would need a two-thirds majority they're exactly and Republicans have fifty three votes in the Senate compared with forty seven for Democrats. So what this means is a full twenty. Twenty Republicans would have to side with Democrats and vote to convict the president which is why that seems unlikely. Now Democratic senator. Chris Murphy gave a very very interesting interview last week in which he said he thought as many as five Republicans might side with Democrats and vote in favor of conviction so that would show a party. Hardy rift that would be significant but clearly a far cry from the numbers needed for a conviction. If President Trump Wall Street Journal reporter show Von Hughes keeping keeping us up to date on all the impeachment proceedings
BBC World Service
'Presidents are not kings': Federal judge says former White House counsel Don McGahn must speak to House
"Are not kings no one not even the head of the executive branch is above the law all of a judgment from a judge ruling in Washington they could have an impact on the impeachment process against Donald Trump it says the former White House counsel dome again must testify to congressional investigators despite orders from the trump administration that he should not that's related to the now closed inquire into Russian interference in the twenty sixteen US elections on North America correspondent David Willis says that that ruling has potentially serious implications for the trump administration now up to now the white house's insisted to that members form I'm president of the trump administration what immune from giving evidence to Congress for now a federal judge has decided otherwise saying in her ruling that the president is not above the law or not therefore able to come moms are people on his staff not to give evidence to Congress this is significant for a number of reasons not least because it could heighten a Democrat Dimond's for people who Fussball been reluctant to give evidence to the impeachment inquiry to come forward Mick Mulvaney the White House chief of staff the secular state Mike Pompeii of possibly among them and it could perhaps lead to more junior White House aides and StarOffice Bob's decided to come forward and testify of their own volition but also it could bolster any case that house Democrats were thinking of bringing against president trump in his administration in regards to obstruction all of the Congress don McGann it is somebody who serve for nearly two years in the trump administration and there's a great deal about it he told Robert Louis inquiry into Russian meddling in the twenty sixteen presidential election that he was told by president trump on several occasions to get rid of Mr Miller and when that story leaked out he was also commanded to hold a press conference and deny that it ever happened and this again a decline to do both all of those things but clearly he has a lot to say to Congress if you get the chance to do so given that the White House is now appealing this federal judge's ruling
BBC World Service
US judge rules Trump officials can be compelled to testify
"In a ruling that could have implications for the impeachment inquiry against president trump a federal judge in Washington has said that White House staff can be compelled to testify before Congress the judge's ruling in a case involving the former White House counsel don McGann he refused to testify in an investigation into Russian interference in the twenty sixteen U. S. elections the ruling is likely to be appealed David Willis ripples the White House had argued that current and former senior officials had immunity and therefore could not be compelled to testify before Congress but a federal judge in Washington DC has decided otherwise former White House counsel don't my gun gave Lynsey evidence to the special counsel Robert Mulder's investigation into allegations of collusion between the trump campaign and Russia and Democrats had wanted to question him about the possibility of obstruction of justice on the president's part before the current impeachment inquiry into Mr trump's dealings with Ukraine got under way
Mark Levin
Impeachment updates: Democrats prepping report for Judiciary
"News former White House counsel don McGann ordered by a federal judge to appear before Congress in the impeachment inquiry lawsuit filed by the house Judiciary Committee as the next step in the inquiry are lining up house intelligence committee chairman Democrat Adam Schiff says the panel is now preparing a report summarizing evidence it is found in an impeachment inquiry it will transmit that report to the Judiciary Committee soon after Congress returns from a thanksgiving recess the Judiciary Committee is responsible for drafting articles of impeachment or taking other action ships's investigators have uncovered a months long effort in which president trump's top foreign interference in elections by conditioning a White House visit in military assistance on Ukraine announcing politically motivated investigation bosses Jared helper on Capitol Hill in a statement after that again ruling came down chairmanship road in part the ruling is very significant victory for congressional oversight and for the American
AP News Radio
Federal judge: McGahn must comply with House subpoena
"Judge cantante brown Jackson has ordered former White House counsel don McGann to comply with the subpoena and appear before the house Judiciary Committee began was a star witness and special counsel Robert Muller is investigation into Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen presidential election the judiciary committee's lawsuit challenges the White House rationale that McGann and other witnesses have absolute immunity from testifying the outcome could lead to renewed efforts by house Democrats to compel testimony in the impeachment inquiry from other high ranking administration officials including former national security adviser John Bolton and appeal of the judge's ruling is expected Ben Thomas Washington
Noon Report with Rick Van Cise
White House, Don Mcgann And Special Counsel discussed on Noon Report with Rick Van Cise
"And a federal judge says house Democrats cannot link cases involving former White House counsel don McGann and former special counsel Robert Muller dems wanted both cases to be heard by one
WBZ Midday News
Rep. Jerry Nadler talks next steps of "holding Trump accountable"
"On the house Judiciary Committee after laying out their next steps in the Russia probe into president trump say this did not end with Robert Muller this week in fact chairman Nadler says the mullah report was fuel to dig deeper he told us to Donald Trump obstructed justice and abuses office by tampering with witnesses attempting to block the investigation in attempting to fire the special counsel at a news conference Nadler said his panel in effect has already been conducting an impeachment inquiry of the president the house is seeking Mahler's grand jury secrets now and with that part of the story from the White House here's CBS the Stephen Portnoy it's the movies threaten to make for nearly four months house judiciary chairman Jerry Nadler says Alaska federal judge for access to the secret grand jury material Robert Miller gathered that would include testimony from witnesses such as former White House counsel don McGann Nadler says a loss so ask a judge to enforce a subpoena from again to have him answer lawmakers questions about the president's desire to fire the special counsel the president calls all of this which Han and a hoax Republican senator Lindsey Graham on fox news last night said the hatred for trump knows no boundaries and the haters used
Ethan Bearman
Former Federal Prosecutor on Mueller Testimony
"Is the day after now we have the benefit of following up on the testimony of Robert Muller yesterday in the two house committees the judiciary in the intelligence committees immediately afterwards but now people have had a little bit of time to ruminate about what they heard what went on what it all meant and we have a couple of people who will be joining us this afternoon the first one I am delighted to say is Laurie Levenson Laurie Levenson is a professor of law at Loyola law school and she's also a former federal prosecutor and she joins us right now Hey Lori welcome to KGO thank you so much I'm so pleased to be with you I am pleased to have you as well I I don't know why but I didn't realize that you were a former federal prosecutor and I just think that gives you a different kind of look at what went on yesterday than those of us who are lay people especially those of us who aren't even lawyers so from the get go let's start it it out easy what did you think what was your overall impression of his testimony you know you're right I see things a little differently I think lot of people when they tuned in wanted to see the show and I was more interested in the information that we got so I so what mother many other peoples you know Bob Miller is not a great witness most lawyers are not that's not a comfortable role for him but that's not what mattered I think what was important was in the first session they were identifying four to five instances of obstruction and laying out what they believe the president and all these men did in that regard and the Republicans were using it for a totally different type of hearing they wanted this hearing to be held at the mall or investigation get started so was much more of a political show than it was but as we would say a legal proceeding I saw the hearing though before Adam ships committee a little differently for small Adam is a former federal prosecutor I had the pleasure working with him and his family just like that you know he sat out the theme that this is about this loyalty to the country and line and greed and I thought the questioning was much crisper at that point and I think Miller was giving up a little bit more than he had in the morning yeah in the morning it seemed as if a specially at the outset his questions were so limited and there were only certain areas that tended to animate him so a lot of the criticism that we heard immediately following and even into today and if you're reading newspaper articles today and especially if you tune into fox which I really try not to do that a lot of the criticism really does have to do with the performance of Robert Muller and not with the content the context of the information that was being presented what a lot of people say is that it didn't make any difference to the viewing public that most people had already taken a side on this and that based on Muller's testimony nobody is going to change their opinions you agree well I think that there is sort of this entrenchment in politics and along the parties we certainly saw that among the you know congressman who were there and they seem to just follow the pod poly it party flying but you know I am a little more optimistic I mean some of the messaging I do think that across there was and has been and continues to be tremendous Russian interference so to the extent that it gives the president stopped to acting cavalierly about his relationship with pollutants and stop saying things like well yeah I take that information again maybe that's a little bit of a step I don't think that people are going to believe that there's an exoneration but on the other hand I don't think a lot of people here so in the big steps now I don't think it moves the needle in open court and closer to impeachment in fact we may back off from it but the facts are a lot clearer having heard them from Bob Muller yeah I would have I will I want to believe this and so maybe that's the reason I say I would have work I am a member of the Judiciary Committee I would want to move forward with impeachment increase with it with the hearings not a voting right now on articles but moving forward and getting some of the other important figures from the Mahler report and others you know this doesn't have to be limited to what was disclosed in the mall report other witnesses to come in and to testify as to the corruption and the potential criminality in the high crimes and misdemeanors of the of Donald Trump wouldn't you well I think that's where they're headed I mean and I heard that during the hearing name suspect they really want don McGann to come in and testify I don't know if he's any better than Bob Muller is as a witness but I suspect he might be and he certainly had the direct contact with the president I'm here is that nobody got the president to actually provide a statement in person I think that's the biggest lacking in this entire investigation I don't disagree with you that continuing the requests for subpoenas makes sense but there's a trade off and that's what Nancy Pelosi saying she saying are we gonna lose our own people will never get the trump people but will we get lose our own people by being so busy focusing on that and not moving the needle on some real issues that need to be addressed problems out of the house out of the house they can do whatever they want to Mitch McConnell's going to kill it right and I'm you know and that's what the the patch for those who don't want to do impeachment is to say why are we going to do this when we know what's going to happen in the Senate but the outlook tournament of argument is we still don't have all the facts yet you know in my mind do you bring in more witnesses didn't have hope picks come in and don McGann but he just go for like the tax returns because if you have to pay that there are other directions all right lord let me ask you this and I'm I'm very serious about this were speaking by the way with Laurie Levenson she's a professor of law at Loyola and she's a former professor of federal prosecutor now I forget residents saying it was a so utterly important I don't remember anyway altera plunging okay you didn't mention well you're coming back here thought which is you know there was some discussion yesterday and whether he could be charged when he got out of office right and one does wonder what's happening up in New York that would be a normal jurisdiction for that to happen so you know all of this might just sort of be a way to say he's got to be held accountable when the hardest way but the way that's most important is that the coming election and it's frustrating I think that we didn't hear any of the major candidates yesterday remark on the ceiling two yeah none of whom said we second this is the guy who killed said scire Muller this is a guy who told people to lie and he's still somebody you're considering this is a guy who cozied up to the Russians welcome their information I just thought there was a huge irony when the Republicans were saying exoneration doesn't mean anything what was the president himself will interject at that so I nobody called him on the double speak they came after the hearing yeah and I I was very disappointed the democratic candidates because if they want to become president they will also be the head of the Democratic Party and so it's time for them to show that sort of leadership capability but in your comments you did remind me of what I had forgotten to say and it is important and it is bill bar bill bars the Attorney General of the United States and I suspect that he is somebody who can more readily more easily should he choose to obstruct investigations obstruct justice when it comes to president trump including those investigations are happening in federal courts outside of Washington DC how much should we be concerned about what bill bar is doing behind the scenes I am I'm actually very concerned you know when he first came into office I thought well you know he's career he is going to be loyal to doing what's right I don't have that same confidence anymore the what I'm most worried about is the investigation into the steel dossier in the beginning of the investigation I wanted to if you want to play politics he could twist that right against the Democrats and that would be much more damaging than anything that's happened up to now I think that's what they're attempting and there's another thing too and that also relates to some of what you were talking about when the president leaves office and and it Robert Muller made this clear yesterday certainly you can pursue criminal charges against him when he's no longer president except for the statute of limitations and he did not have an answer to that question the LC memo really didn't adequately address that so what does happen doesn't doesn't that by abiding by the LC terms you're assuming the president's only going to serve one term in office and otherwise if he's reelected is above the law well I think that's right I mean this all comes down to the election because I don't agree that that somehow and you told the time while he's in office if he gets a second term he's never going to be prosecuted and that's just a clear message that maybe has to go out to the public yeah I think I think that's absolutely true and I really appreciate you bringing that up listen let's get a one quick call here from one of our listeners before we go this is Lee calling from San Jose Lee welcome to KGO your own with Laurie Levenson go ahead that's wonderful I called the other day and I was very upset I read Gibbons decline and fall of the Roman Empire I could just about Roman history yeah are it and Bob and Cicero on duty right okay yes I'm scared but was just sort of had a scared chopped off are you are you we're gonna take Donald Trump to the guillotine no no well what's your question professor Levinson there's money and power yeah and and the thing is it is but err I will I used to be in touch with senator Robert Bork yes and we were we were to change letters in mail right yeah and he wrote losing America and that was when bush was president right so do you have a question for professor Levinson because I have limited time with her right now only no I understand I'm sorry it's okay I mean I I would like to respond to him yes please thank you Sir thank you Sir for realizing that what we face now is something that we've been warned about for centuries and then it comes down some of those basic values I think when Adam yes didn't get into the details but he got into what is at stake here as you mentioned before that really is what's at stake it's not about an individual prosecution it's not about an individual count it's not about about an element of the crime it's about the really big pictures and a threat to democracy so I don't mean to be overly dramatic but I think you're right on the spot I think we're being unduly dramatic at this point I mean it is turned into what some people view is a political game and the stakes as you said are so much higher than that we all need to pay attention and I do believe that Congress has to do its duty under the constitution and so do we as citizens we have to clamor for the kind of for the Congress to do its job and for the president to not be above the law and unless we do that man we set a precedent that I think it's scary you know I heard somebody that I respect tremendously yesterday he was actually in studio with me he's one of my colleagues and he said I'm opposed to impeachment Pat I'm opposed to impeach with because it overthrows the will of the people and I boggles my mind as well is it ever appropriate then because anytime you impeach an elected representative you're gonna overthrow the will of the people but there's a reason for it well you know I think that what we've learned is impeachment and politics can I like law a lot because it's a lot more certain were in really uncertain times thank you for having me on and thank you so much so it's been a pleasure talking with you eighty eighty a tennis or telephone number will come back with your telephone calls as we talk about the aftermath of the molar testimony and where do you think we go from here will the Democrats do you think by pursuing impeachment inquiry will they begin the hearings the hearings which really will allow them to get more witnesses and more information because the courts are going to be tilted toward what the Congress is asking for when what they are asking for is part and parcel of an impeachment investigation which is which is entirely within the purview of the Congress eighty eighty eight ten is the
Barsky Radio
DOJ to give House Judiciary Committee some Mueller probe evidence
"House Judiciary chairman Jerry Nadler, says, criminal contempt moves. Against attorney general William bar have been postponed after the Justice department agreed to turn over key underlying evidence from the Muller report. However, the full house is still expected to vote on a resolution, which would clear the way for the judiciary panel to go to court to seek civil enforcement of the subpoenas for bar and former White House counsel, Don, Mcgann the DOJ documents retained a possible of structure of Justice by
KSFO Morning Show with Brian Sussman with Katie Green
House panel weighs holding Trump Cabinet members in contempt over census
"Allies, your comings of the house oversight committee indicates he will proceed with the contempt vote on his panel against attorney general bar and commerce secretary Ross over a document dispute regarding a potential citizen, citizenship question. That is on the twenty two thousand census. Meantime, the full house is expected to vote next week in holding AG bar, and former White House counsel, Don Mcgann in contempt of congress. This marks have dramatic escalation in the Democrats battle with the Trump administration over whether the president of struck did. Justice in the special counsels, Russia,