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Mongolia

Trump, Inc.

25:06 min | 11 months ago

Mongolia

"Following the three eldest trump kids don Jr.. Ivanka and Eric will take you around the world. Florida Indonesia India Panama Moscow. But I would not ever have guessed donald trump junior with meet us here by on Org Prophets Western Mongolia. If you drive ill take you three days to get there by car. A non tumor Toco is a journalist based in Mongolia's capital. Ulan Batur. How did you I flew was a four hour flight after the flight in a Land Cruiser? My guide driver he was asking around and we found a cottage slaughtering horses for the winter in Mongolia. Horses sources are for writing and there for me and I enter the shed and it was just one very statuesque man and just through meets a little terrified but when I heard his voice of calm and one and arrived three months after junior he found the first sons tracks Were still clearly visible so I recorded conversations with scouts so one of the scouts. I can't remember his name Pontic. Yes Honda thing. He was the guy who was in the picture. WHO's holding Donna from junior Horse it's public knowledge. That Don Jr. took a trip trip here last summer. He instagram'd it. What's not public knowledge? What our reporters learned is that he was hunting and the Mongolian government treated Don Jr. differently from other big game hunters? It rolled out the red carpet. gave him an entourage. A meeting with the president and a thing of value value a hunting permit one of only three available in this hunting region. We want to know. We're the rules both Mongolia in the United States. It's followed did the taxpayer in Mongolia or the United States are in both places foot. The bill for any portion of this trip did Don uh trump junior get special treatment that another Western trophy hunter wouldn't get was everything done ethically pursuant went to the rules and if not why not and who's responsible and above all and what happened to to the sheep whereas the trophy while he was there. Don Jr. shot a sheep. It was not just any sheep. It was a special wild sheep. That's endangered are golly shaped the biggest bighorn sheep in the world bigger than rocky mountain sheep their horns can get you know this. Sort of curved. Beautiful BIGHORNS can Extend it longer than six feet tall. The are Golly of the Mongolian. Altai have muscular frames and move on thin graceful legs. They can leap crags Cragg's boulders and move in herds of one hundred animals or more because of their horns how big they are how huge the animal is just speaks. The two boys want to be seen as very very proud old people so here it is our final episode in the year. Two thousand nineteen are gully sheep Welcome to trump inc.. I'm Ilya Marritz today. The story of one dead Woolley quadrupeds and what it tells us about International Relations Conservation Conservation. Laws would it means to the adult son of this. US President a private citizen whose name alone makes him impossible to ignore. Moore Don Jr. turned up in Mongolia. He was there to cash in an expedition he'd won at an auction held by the National Rifle Association. Back in two thousand fifteen. The world has changed a lot in four years. Don Juniors Dad is now president and wall. Don Jr. does not represent the US government. The Mongolians treated him as visiting emissary arranging meetings and chaperones and issuing him. A rare air and valuable permit to hunt. Are golly sheep. They did this in a way that seemed to bend their own. Rules Mongolia's permanent system. According to specialists this is opaque and mostly based on money connections and politics the more we looked the more troubling information we found and we would know nothing. Nothing about this. If it weren't for to reporters I'm Jake Pearson. I'm a reporter at PROPUBLICA in New York and new and butter a non Timur to go So Nice to meet you. What time is it in Mongolia seven seventeen? Am they're thirteen Hours ahead of New York and Have you had your morning coffee yet. If I drink my coffee right now our show today down junior and the are golly sheep here we go part one the tip. It came in a few months ago at PROPUBLICA offices offices in New York so colleague who had worked with This reporter Mongolia literally walked over to my desk and said hey man. I know that you're interested interested and have done work on Donald trump junior and also trophy hunting before. I think he'd be interested in hearing what I just learned. The reporter. Who called called in the tip was Annand and his source was a man named William Taylor a professor at the University of Colorado? I'm what you would call an archaeologist and a lot on my work studies the origins of animal. Domestication Taylor was on an expedition in western Mongolia at the time while he was out there he saw this short news item. It said that Don Jr. was in the neighborhood like right nearby I didn't believe it Because of it's the next in a line of Johnny Depp or Leo DiCaprio or some so-and-so's is in Mongolia or they've been spotted here. But what the Heck Taylor Taylor shared what he read with his horse guts. You know around the Campfire ice asked about it out of curiosity they say yeah. He's here he's got his up six year old son with him and they've essentially got a a trip hired out for for hunting Argeles. Sheep did a double take I was I was really really surprised Taylor told this to an aunt who shared it with Jake will come back to Taylor at the end of this episode. Jake says trophy. Hunting is a rich person activity. The fees are suppose to support conservation but the system can be abused for us. What's interesting thing is how this came together whether or not public resources either Mongolia or from the? US were used in the course of this trip whether or not the Mongolians ends treated Donald trump junior differently than they would any other Westerner if any foreign policy or an effort influence policy was conducted. Donald Trump. Junior junior is of course an avid hunter their photos of him with the dead Leopard with an elephants tail in one hand and a knife in the other Jake learned that like leopards and elephants the particular animal don Jr. was hunting in Mongolia is becoming rare. We know that our golly are threatened under the US endangered species act and there are rules that apply there. We know that the Mongolians have permiting system There is an effort that's been made in the country to try and limit how many can be killed for sport and under what conditions because you know the our golly contribute to local ecosystems the Mongolian government allotted just eighty six permits to hunt are golly for the year two thousand nineteen. If you're lucky enough to get one then you have to figure figure out how to pay to get close enough to kill it. Outfitters typically charged twenty four to fifty thousand dollars to go are golly and we we WanNa know how much don trump junior paid. We WanNa know to whom he paid it. Who paid for the trip? How Don Jr. got the permit whether any informal diplomacy happens there? Jake and Annand tried for weeks to get information. They kept hitting dead ends. We'd run out of options. I mean we you know we had called and emailed eld and what's apt messaged all kinds of people. Many Times over folks had agreed to talk with us. And then Ducked out or bailed on those interviews and finally we decided that an aunt had to go there part two the hunt a non says even for Mongolian bion Augie province is another world people. There speak a different language. Kazakh doc. They practice Islam Buddhism. The highest mountains in the country are there. I remember seeing like a herd of camels just walking from buying in the snowstorm. I felt very swing. A non rented a Land Cruiser. He hired an interpreter and he went out looking for for people who came into contact. With Don Jr. like scouts the local herders help hunters find animals or in some cases. Get animals to a place were they can be hunted so we went to the houses of the scouts and also to government officials who present at the hunt. And what did they tell you. What did you learn? One of the things that I learned is that he came with very lavish crew. All the people who were there present all talked about he had like fifty people with a forty people like somewhere in the range of their life three cokes here. A huge like tent and cat five former bodyguards and three Mongolian bodyguards and scouts were not allowed to get close to him That much turned there. Were not even allowed to take pictures with him. Don Juniors instagram feed shows him in Cam. o- On a Stout Mongolian steed holding fishing rod next two Iraqi stream posing inside of a yurt filled with colorful textiles with his son. Donald Trump third quote guys. I'm back after living the life with my man donny. For the past week exploring Hashtag Mongolia. We covered many miles on horseback and four-wheel-drive more picks to come soon soon. Truly one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen and the scenery was actually done by the genuine warmth and kindness of the people after such such an amazing experience actually disappointed to be back on the grid from the scouts. Anon- learned that Don Jr. shot an are golly sheep. The shoot was at night. He was the special rifle with night. Vision that part of his trip. He did not post to Instagram Afterwards Don Jr. in the scouts carried the dead sheep downhill on an aluminum sheet to a place where it was slaughtered. They were careful to preserve the head and horns. We asked Donald Trump Junior. If he was seeking to bring his trophy back to the United States the government regulates this in part to fight poaching. He did not answer. We also have requested information on import permits from the US Fish and Wildlife Service. It's not clear whether Mongolia issued an export permit the locals a non spoke with liked. Don Jr. they were proud to have worked with him people talked about how he was a very down to Earth Guy. I like. They never saw a foreigner. Who would help them out with like getting dirty grubby with the butchering the the animal or like helping carry the animal meat to two scouts? You know they. They seem to be an Austrian. The SAUVE that a non also learned that Don Jr. had some noteworthy companions on this trip Mongolian government officials from defense and security services. And the defense attache attache from the US embassy in Owen butter one more thing when he was in by an og. A non tracked down a government official an unlit unheated Soviet style building. Kim told me about when when exactly hunt happened and he showed us the purpose of the copies. It's a permanent of the hunt piece of paper with images of wildlife dates in a name when I looked at the document does I looked at thoroughly thoroughly and a and I saw his name. John Trump junior and the date stood out the promise it's it's On the left insiders say like September second September second John Junior left the region a few days before that so seems its definition. flimsiness should afterwards on the hunt. Happened Again Propublica Jake Pearson our understanding based on experts in Mongolia and the rule was that this is not how it's supposed to be Jake has been looking into this. He learned it's unusual for permits to be issued. After a hunter's visit we asked Mongolian government officials about this. They haven't responded. Well look I mean one of the things we've learned about Mongolia. Is that this permanent process and the rules rules governing. She punting are very much still in progress. We talked experts. Who told us that? The permanent system `stem in Mongolia for big game hunting which is catered mainly to wealthy Westerners is pretty loose. It is an insider's game is a a game of political connections in this district by an Oggi province just three permits were issued two hundred Dali Twenty Nineteen Donald Donald Trump Junior. Got One of them. And we'll be right back it did. We're back part three. The American Prince Mongolia is a vast sparsely populated country. It's only borders with Russia and China. Mongolians Mongolians sometimes call America their third neighbor. Because it's such an important ally among the big issues for the Mongolians right now. They want America to lower tariffs on Kashmir wall so they can better compete with Chinese Kashmir. It's a major export less than a month before down junior was in Mongolia. Mongolia's the president called Moga visited the White House president but Toga symbolically gifted among golden horse to president trump's the youngest son Barron trump named it victory victory victory. Thank you because she a picture of the in wall trump rift between stood silently and smiled. He's a former champion in SOMBO wrestling. A martial art that was developed in the Soviet Union Nyan this seems to impress trump gully great fighters in other great fighters very wrestlers rate champions right and we have two grand champion. AH OF SUMO wrestling with us from a couple of years ago. He's year. Mind Ghalia SOMBO. Oh not sumo but tool did not correct trump jake Annan learned. There was a follow up to this meeting a few weeks later it happened in Mongolia and it involved. Don Jr. a local government official in the province in western Mongolia were this hunt took place as told us when we were reporting that Donald Trump junior was slated to have a private meeting with the President of Mongolia on his way back out of country out of the Capitol capital and butter to the US. And this is the first that you'd heard of it. Yeah we hadn't heard about that. In that peaked. Our interest obviously and a former government official. WHO's in contact and familiar with the meeting? informed us that yes indeed. The meeting did occur so that means the Mongolian president met with Donald Trump. Junior this too did not appear on his instagram. We have almost no details. We have effort are trying to understand more about what was discussed West but So far we've come up empty on that front but we confirmed that it did actually happen. What is the government of Mongolia? Say about all this. They're not talking to us. We've made attempts to talk to the president's Office to the Environmental Ministry that oversees permeating. And they've not responded to our requests for comment and the White House likewise I reached out to the White House the State Department the Department of Defense the US Embassy in Mongolia with detail detailed lists of questions and have not received responses from them. But you did hear back from Don Juniors people what did they tell you right so a spokesperson for Don Jr. Junior says in a statement that this was a personal trip that he flew commercial in and out of Mongolia that no government officials in either the US or Mongolia helped organize the trip and that the secret service and not done junior is the entity that determines security the protocols and protection services and that it's their call. They did not respond to our questions about meeting president but Toga when we at WNYC and PROPUBLICA. I started looking at the trump kids. We were mainly concerned with what they could do for the family family. Business the trump organization with their dad in the White House three years in a more basic conflict has come into focus one that the constitution does not anticipate. Don Jr. has power is the son of the most powerful man on earth and that man listens to him the former. US US ambassador in Kief. BEREA Vich told Congress. She believes a tweet by Don Jr. contributed to her abrupt removal. I mean it seemed to me that If the president son is is Saying things like this that it would be very hard to continue in my position in in have thority in Ukraine unless the State Department came out pretty strongly behind me but donald trump junior does not work for the government moment. He doesn't have to follow any of the ethics rules. That government officials do and the emoluments clause it says the president cannot accept gifts from foreign powers hours. It says nothing about the president's children receiving things of value like many places says on earth the snowpack in western Mongolia is in retreat and as it retreats it's revealing something animal bones for thousands of years. Here's hunters have been ambushing. Their next meal at these watering holes. That's what William Taylor. The archaeologist was examining last summer and the thing thing that I think is a really kind of striking counterpoint to the things that were happening in parallel with our project with the trump visit. Is that in. This mountain. Top is absolutely littered with the bones of our golly sheep and not just the bones. But we're pretty much talking about about the skulls. There are hundreds of of skulls and kind of Horn curls that it's sort of the opposite of trophy hunting what. It appears that people were doing is after they completed their hunt right. They were removing the head of the animal and placing it on top of the mountain sympton and we actually found several piles that are complete intact piles and probably. That was an act of sort of spirituality or respect right but the really shocking thing about this essentially massive are golly sheep graveyard appear that spans thousands of years of hunting in history. Here is that local folks in this region have never seen and our goal is sheep on them out in like the ice itself. The golly Ali are disappearing between nineteen eighty five and two thousand nine. The estimated population of our golly in Mongolia dropped from fifty thousand to just eighteen eighteen thousand scientists say overgrazing by domestic animals and over. Hunting are the greatest threats. You know. We've gone from an area where this was an animal that was feeding you know centuries of different generations of folks in this region through hunting to one that people people haven't seen in this region in decades the money raised from selling hunting permits is supposed to support conservation. But it's not at all clear that's what's happening in Mongolia Longoria when he learned Donald Trump junior was hunting are golly in a nearby valley tillers first feeling was surprise but the next feeling that that I felt I guess. was pretty deep concern in. I'm a hunter. I teach hunter education. I go to Montana every year and hunt deer Sometimes elk and I have nothing ethically against hunting also research it. It's really important in my life but I think it needs to be done in balance right and I have an issue with the way that this seems to have played out the beautiful. Oh big game. Animals of the Mongolian Altai They have a history that goes back. Centuries and Millennia and they are one of the most iconic in and beautiful natural resources that our world has to offer and they're under a lot of strain right now in the twenty th century and each each individual animal has an incredible amount of value the killing of even one guy she. He says harms the whole species and it makes me incredibly upset to sit there and to look through the the remains of centuries or Millennia Linnea of sustainable hunting right alongside in extreme example of unsustainable hunting that. I don't know if Mongolia is really gone to ultimately recover from it's really upsetting and yet it. It really bothers me and do you know something about Donald Trump. Junior's visit to Mongolia. Like what what he discussed with the President of Mongolia where they met or what happened the remains of the sheep. Don Jr. killed we want to hear from you find out how to tipoff securely at our website trump INC podcast dot org and while you're there sign up for the trump INC newsletter. That way you'll never miss an episode. You'll get lots of fun little extras from our team this week. We'll have photos that Anatolian his trip to buy on in this episode was produced by Alice. Wilder the executive producer is meg. Kramer sound designer. Is Jared Paul Additional Engineering by Casey Means and Bill Moss. The editors were arguments sqi and Jesse Izing special. Thanks to Professor William Taylor and Peter Vitner and to Asher Pearson for his patients. Stephen Engelberg is the editor in chief of PROPUBLICA. Emily Boutin is the vice president of original programming at WNYC original music. This episode route by Jared Paul Brown ooh

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Ep. 419: I Hope This Favor Was Worth It For Your Dad (The Mueller Report, pt. 8)

Don't Worry About The Government

1:03:55 hr | 1 year ago

Ep. 419: I Hope This Favor Was Worth It For Your Dad (The Mueller Report, pt. 8)

"Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen. Hello again. Welcome back to don't worry about the government. My name is christova Marino, it on today's episode we continue our look at the mullahs report, this is part eight of that series. And today's episode focuses on a subject that is back in the news this week. The June ninth 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between Don jR jerk Kushner, Paul Manafort, and a bunch of Russians. Now why is this back in the news this week while it's back in the news this week because George Stephanopoulos, just didn't interview with Donald Trump? And during that interview they talked about the June ninth meeting in Trump Tower and Donald Trump has some opinions about whether or not, he would go to the F, B I, if such a scenario came up again, or even just in a hypothetical scenario. Okay. Let's put yourself in a position year, congressman somebody comes up and says, hey. I have information on your opponent. You cool. The FBI one two three four. Yes. You call the FBI. Do. I've seen a lot of things over my life. I don't think in my whole life I've ever called the FBI in my whole life. I don't you don't call the FBI throw somebody out of your office, you do whatever gore got stolen briefing book he called the FBI, well, that's different stolen briefing. But this is this is somebody said we have information on your opponent. Oh, let me call the FBI. Yes, give me a break. Lifeless director says which should happen, the FBI director is wrong. Oh, you're campaign this time out of foreigners. If Russia if China if someone else offers you information on opponent should they accept it or should be called the FBI I think maybe do both. I think you might wanna listen. I don't this thing with listening. No. If somebody called from country Norway, we have information on your. I think I'd wanna hear you want that kind of interference in our elections. They have information. I think I'd take it if I thought there was something wrong. I'd go maybe to the FBI if I thought there was something wrong. But when somebody comes up with opera research, right? They come up with up research. Oh, let's call the FBI. The FBI doesn't have enough agents to take care of it. But you go and talk, honestly to congressman. They all do it. They always have. And that's the way it is. It's called upo research. Yes, you come. Be. Lots of political podcasts have editorial positions in strong ones at that. But how many political podcasts have their editorial positions in three part harmony thirds and fifths baby? Yeah. Patriot dot com slash DWA t. All right, George. So what are we talking about today? Summarize it for us in two thousand sixteen just months before the election. Don jR received an Email from business associate promising dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government, Don juniors response. If it's what you say, I love it the conversation led to a meeting and Trump Tower that included the president's son, his son in law, Jared Kushner, and a Russian lawyer, Don jR insists nothing came of it, and especially Robert Muller concluded there was not enough evidence to charge a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia. Let's revisit that Trump quote real quickly before we begin getting into the Muller text for today's episode because that Trump quote shows us a few things one first and foremost shows us that Nancy, Pelosi's strategy of ignored. Donald Trump in just blowed, the soft, maybe this can wait to the election. And if we lose the election, maybe we can impeach him after that. That's not going to work because Donald Trump is constantly, pushing the envelope, what he's realized now is that there is no hashtag, resistance that he can just keep pushing us, and he's going to keep pushing this unless and until somebody checks him, however, there's another important takeaway from the George Stephanopoulos interview. And that is that Donald Trump's legal defense team did a very good job by their client, in not letting down Trump testified a Robert Muller, because if Donald Trump was cavalier to Robert Muller and his team as he was with George Stephanopoulos. I believe that Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner in don't Trump junior would be facing additional legal exposure right now. And I believe that volume one would be much more of a problem for Donald Trump's presidency than it has been thus far although to peers that the tide is turning on that. So without further ado, let's get. Into it. We begin on page one hundred ten on June ninth, twenty sixteen senior representatives of the Trump campaign Menton from tower with a Russian attorney expecting to receive derogatory information about Hillary Clinton from the Russian government. The meeting was proposed to Donald Trump in an Email from Robert Goldstone at the request of his then client aim, and of the son of a Russian real estate developer as Ogle of stopping right here for a moment. Trump and Ayman galore of have a standing tie. They have been friends for several years. In fact, don't Trump appeared in one of Ayman, agalarov pup videos. Wake you up right now. Evan weak-. Come on. What's wrong with you? With you. Enlist get with your Ola late. You just another pretty face. I'm really tired of you. You're fired Goldstone related to Trump junior that the crown prosecutor of Russia offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia as part of Russia and its government. Support from Mr. Trump Trump junior immediately responded that quote, if it's what you say, I love it, and arranged the meeting through a series of emails and telephone calls before we continue on, I think it's important to stop right here and do a quick qualitative comparison between the assistance that WikiLeaks offered the Trump campaign and how Julian Assange and his organization were assisting, the Trump campaign, and this particular dangle of election assistance the employee. Portent difference between this Trump Tower meeting, and the Wiki leaks assistance, is that the Trump Tower meeting was presented to the Trump campaign from the onset as help from a foreign state actor and going back to the quote, the beginning is up Assode, which would have been very interesting for Robert Mueller to have considered while he was working through this section. If somebody called from country Norway, we have information on your honor. I think I'd wanna hear you want that kind of interference in our elections have information. I think I'd take it if I thought there was something wrong. I'd go maybe to the FBI, if I thought there was something wrong that quote at these started the episode suggests that don't Trump doesn't have a problem with any foreign state actor, offering assistance to any of his opponents. Now, let's just consider for a moment that the democratic nominee, whoever it may be. I'm not even going to name them. Let's suppose that democratic nominee gets assistance from, I'll just pick a country here at random Iran. Do we really think that Trump and his partisans are going to just stomach the idea that the audience are helping out the democratic nominee with be screaming, bloody murder and saying this is an attempt to subvert the constitution? It's substantively different than WikiLeaks. And that's because Wiki leaks is serving as this intermediary. So, yes, we leaks has documents documents that were stolen by foreign government. And it's highly likely given Julian Assange is nearly decade long relationship. Now with the Russian government, it's more like since twenty twelve but he's got six years of a relationship with the Russian government that Julian Assange is aware that the Russians were the people who stole these documents and Julian Assange is probably aware that they didn't arrive at his doorstep by accident, and is actively trying to use these documents to assist Donald Trump. And there's really only one way to use these documents either you say, no Russia. I will not assist you in this election meddling, or you do what you would obviously do with documents of this nature and try to maximize their impact, and in maximizing their impact, you are aiding and abetting the Russian project and also helping the Trump campaign, there's a little bit of wink, wink nudge, nudge, know what I mean. Mean going on here, but one doesn't have to be all that clever to read in between the lines. And again, going back to Julian Assange, Julian Assange have been doing television on Russia today, which is the Russian state propaganda, the Russian equivalent of the voice of America for nearly four years. Now at this point, he had more from being this transparency activists to being. I don't know something different at this point. I think you can come up with their own term, but his relationship with foreign governments certainly had changed. I think that's a fair and sort of neutral way of putting it. So in this case to go back to our Trump Tower meeting, what the Trump campaign has been presented with his here comes the Russian government, and the Russian government would like to help you defeat Hillary Clinton. This also puts that theory of mind, in later on when you have all this from Wiki leaks. Right. The Russian government has his ongoing project. They're trying to help you. Win the election for whatever reason, Trump is aware of this, and he's been made aware of this now several times throughout the way, by the way, as we're discussing this meeting in Trump Tower, New York. Let us not forget at the same time. Donald Trump is attempting to pursue this Trump Tower Moscow. So now you start putting all these different data points about Trump's theory of mind, he Newell is going on here Muller just couldn't demonstrate it beyond a reasonable doubt, but it would be fairly hard just based on all the circumstances of evidence to come up with a plausible narrative. We're in don't from didn't really know what was going on. Don jR invited campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and senior adviser Jared Kushner to attend the meeting in both attended members of the campaign discuss the meeting before it occurred. And Michael Cohen, recalled that Trump junior may have told kid at Trump about an upcoming meeting to receive adverse in for. Mation about Clinton without linking the meeting to Russia. According to the written answers submitted by Donald Trump, he has no recollection of learning of the meeting at the time, and the office found no documentary evidence showing that he was made aware of the meeting, or it's Russian connection before it occurred, there is that important clause at the end of the sentence of before it occurred, and there is, of course, this cloud of circumstance that Moeller has detailed up to this point page one hundred ten so this is all very interesting. But it's hard to demonstrate Donald Trump's theory of mind and more importantly, Muller, felt bound by the office of legal counsel memo that said that you cannot indict a sitting president. So even if don't Trump perjured himself during these proceedings, even if he lied to Muller Muller, wouldn't have been able to charge him all he would have been able to do is write that up in volume to the obstruction. Portion of the investigation. Interesting to think about all of this, in the context of what Muller was actually bound, by the Russian attorney who spoke at the meeting to tell you vessel. That sky had previously worked for the Russian government and had maintained a relationship with that government throughout this period of time. She claimed that funds derived from illegal activities in Russia were provided to Hillary Clinton, and other Democrats, Donald Trump junior requested evidence to support those claims, but vessel, skied did not provide such information, she and her associates then turned to a critique of the origins of the Magnitsky act, eight twenty twelve statue that imposed financial and travel sanctions on Russian officials and that resulted in a retaliatory ban on adoptions of Russian children. Donald Trump junior suggested that the issue could be revisited when and if candidate Trump was elected after the election. Vessel sky made. Additional efforts to follow up on the meeting, but the Trump transition team did not engage before we continue on. Here's Bill Browder talking about the origins of the Magnitsky act at that point, I hired the smartest lawyer, I knew in Russia, a young man named Sergei Magnitsky. He was thirty five years old. To investigate who did what and how we could stop them. Sergei went out investigated and came back with an astounding conclusion. The conclusion, he came back with was that the purpose of stealing. Our companies was to try to steal our assets, which they didn't succeed in doing. However, they did succeed in stealing two hundred and thirty million dollars of taxes that we paid to the Russian government from the Russian government. So I should point out that the theft wasn't of my money or my firm's money, but it was of the Russian government's money, two hundred thirty million dollars. It was largest tax refund fraud in the history of Russia. Surrogate. I were both convinced that this must be a rogue operation. We thought that Putin was a nationalist Putin wouldn't have allowed his own officials to steal from his own country. And we figured that we brought it to the attention of the highest authorities in Russia. Then the good guys would get the bad guys and that would be the end of the story. And so we wrote criminal complaints every different branch of the Russian Justice system. I got I went to the newspapers and Sergei gave sworn testimony to the Russian state investigative committee, which is their version of the FBI. And we waited for the good guys to get the bad guys. It turned out that in Putin's Russia. There are no good guys. On November twenty four two thousand eight about six weeks after Sergei testified against a bunch of corrupt officials some of the same officials testified against came to his home at eight in the morning in front of his wife and two children arrested him. They put him in pretrial detention and where he was then tortured to get him to withdraw his testimony. They put him in cells with fourteen inmates. Eight beds, left lights on twenty four hours a day to impose sleep deprivation, they put him in cells with no heat, and no window panes in December Moscow so nearly froze to death. They put him in cells with no toilet, just a hole in the floor where the sewage would bubble up. They move from cell to cell to sell in the middle of the night. The purpose of this was to get him to withdraw his testimony and to get them to sign a false confession that he stole the two hundred thirty million dollars and did. So in my instructions and Sergei refused to do that. Because he refused the pressure just increased. And after six months is health deteriorated. He lost forty pounds. And he was diagnosed as having pancreatitis and gallstones and eating an operation which was scheduled for the first of August two thousand nine a week before his operation, they abruptly moved him from prison that had medical facilities to a maximum security prison called Chica considered to be one of the most awful prisons in Russia, and most significantly for Sergei there, were no medical facilities there at boot Erica is health completely broke down. He went into constant agonizing ear-piercing pain from his pancreatitis and they refused medical treatment. Surrogate, lawyers wrote twenty different requests, desperate requests for medical attention. All the requests were either ignored in some cases, denied in writing. After a couple of months of this horrible, torture, sorbets body could no longer. Hold out and on the night of November, sixteenth, Sergei went into swimming this into critical condition on that night. The authorities didn't want to have responsibility for him. So they put him in an ambulance sent him to a different prison that had medical facilities. But when he arrived at that different prison, instead of giving him center putting him in the emergency room, they put him in an isolation cell. He was chained to a bed and eight riot. Guards with rubber batons beat him until he died. Sergei Magnitski was thirty seven years old. He left a wife and two children. I got the, the news of his murder, the morning of, of the seventeenth, and I've made it my life's work since then to get Justice for gaming sqi, unfortunately, Justice was impossible to get in Russia. They circle the wagons and exonerated everybody involved promotions state honors to the people who are most complicit. So I thought Justice outside of Russia, and I came here to Washington. I told Senator Benjamin carton and Senator John McCain the same story. I'm sharing with you today of all the members of the Senate Bill Browder made an excellent choice in John McCain. Because if there is one member of the Senate who could relate to the story of Sergei Magnitsky on a personal in visceral level, it would be the late John McCain. And Furthermore, John McCain is someone who has always been very Steckel of Vladimir Putin he expressed that thought while on the campaign. Trail in two thousand eight he's never trusted the new Russia under Vladimir Putin and history. Ultimately showed him to be on the right side of that argument. And they came up with the Magnitsky act to freeze assets and banned visas of the people who killed Sergei Magnitsky and the people who commit other gross human rights abuses in Russia. The Magnitsky passed ninety two to four in the Senate eighty nine percent of the house of representatives, and was signed into law on the fourteenth of December two thousand twelve. President Putin was absolutely infuriated, by this, and he then in retaliation ban the adoption of Russian orphans by American families that ban. Was the reason why he took took such drastic step was because bladder Putin was one of the beneficiaries of the two hundred thirty million dollar fraud. We've since traced some of that money to an account of a man named Sergei role Dugan who's been exposed in the Panama papers as being one of his nominees. Vladimir Putin was so infuriated at the Magnitsky act that he then put Sergei Magnitsky on trial at three years after they killed him in the first ever trial against dead man in the history of Russia and put me on trial as co defendant findings both guilty. I know there was a lot of process there in that clip. It's fairly emotionally intense, but there is one interesting nugget inside of all of this, all the flimflam around adoptions in getting the US government to change our adoption policy that really doesn't have anything to do with the United States, according to Browder that was a retaliatory move. Done by Vladimir Putin. That means that led Putin could address the quote, unquote adoption crisis, whenever he wants. And elects not to outreach to don't from junior eras. Agla off is a Russian real estate developer with ties to Putin and other members of the Russian government, including Russia's prosecutor General Yury Chaika ours. Galore is the president of the crocus group a Russian enterprise, that hold substantial Russian government construction contracts, and that as discussed above worked with Trump in connection with the twenty thirteen Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and a potential Trump Moscow, real estate project. Those of you who have been listening to this entire series mutt. Remember that name the crocus group from the episode entitled, the chocolate covered peanut butter tower, the relationship continued over time as the party's pursued the Trump Moscow project in twenty thirteen and twenty four. And exchange gifts and letters twenty sixteen for example, in April of twenty sixteen Trump responded to a letter from eras. Aglet off with a handwritten note errors off expressed interest in Trump's campaign passed on a congratulations for winning the primary and according to one Email drafted by Goldstone and offer of quote support. And that of many of his important, Russian friends, and colleagues, especially with reference to the US Russian relations, so that line right there. Implies state, right. The, the idea of US in Russian relations. It's not like a US businessman, and a Russian businessman, and that is US Russian relations, like that's a joke that you would make with your friends or a foreign exchange students like that. Hey look, we're doing international relations. That's not what we mean. We're saying international relations on June third twenty sixteen. Eight an egg of called Goldstone Ayman's, then publicists Goldstone is a music and events promoter who represented Ayman egg, Laura from approximately late twenty twelve until late, twenty sixteen while representing Aguilera Goldstone facilitated the ongoing contract between the trumps, and the Galera offs, including invitation that Trump sent to Putin to attend the twenty thirteen Miss Universe pageant in Moscow. Now, we come up on a piece of redaction, and this is redacted grand jury related testimony. I don't even have a speculative guess, on this, but it's about a long sentence. Goldstone understood Blair, another redaction Russian political connection, and Imon off indicated that the attorney was a prosecutor Goldstone, recalled that the information that might interest, the Trump's involved Hillary Clinton, and then we've bought up against another redaction this next redaction to my is, is rather. Silly. The blank mentioned by Ayman Agla was Natalia vessel that sky. So I don't know the blank is. But let's say the Russian linked attorney that appears to fit in there based on the characters alone. I have no idea, why this redaction is here. I'm not sure what we're trying to hide here that did seem a little bit gratuitous to me from approximately nineteen ninety eight until two thousand one vessel. Knit Skyla worked as a prosecutor for the central administrative district of the Russian prosecutor's office, and she continued to perform government related work maintained ties to the Russian government following her departure. So she's like the equivalent of in Washington DC, one of these people who is constantly part of the beltway, she may be analogize, too. If you watch MSNBC someone like Joyce Vance. I don't know how much TV vessel sky does. But, you know, maybe not part of the government right now, but very likely will be part of the government again in the future. She lobbied and testified about the Magnitsky act, which imposed financial sanctions and travel restrictions on Russian officials and which was named for a Russian tax specialist who exposed fraud and later died in a Russian prison. You heard about him earlier Putin called the statute, a quote, purely political in unfriendly act in Russia responded by barring a list of current informer use officials from entering Russia in halting the adoptions of Russian children by US citizens. So you heard that from Bill Browder earlier. And now you have that piece of evidence backed up by the mullahs report vessel night sky, performed work for Dennis cats. If the son of Russian businessman, Peter cats, if and for his company, prevalant holdings, which was a defendant, in a civil forfeiture, action, alleging the laundering of proceeds from the fraud, exposed by Magnitsky. She also appears to have been involved in April twenty sixteen approach to a US congressional delegate. Action in Moscow, offering quote, confidential information from quote, the prosecutor general of Russia about quote interactions between certain political forces in our two countries so Natalia vessel that sky is not some Johnny on the spot. She's there for a reason she is a trusted hand of the Russian government. However, how would we know the relationship between Natalia vessel that sky and the Russian government, the only way to know that would be to get a hold of her cell phone to get a hold of computer to get hold of her records? The US government is very powerful and US intelligence community is very powerful. However, I think some, especially on our side, especially those who are concerned about national security, the fourth amendment things that Wiki leaks used to cover rather extensively six seven eight years ago at lengthier the NSA gathering up all this data. I think we get the false sense that the. Government has all of this data and has something approximating, total informational awareness that they're like Jim Carey's version of the Ridler in that very bad Batman movie from the nineteen nineties and they've got the intent on their head and they're sucking in all the information and they know what's going on everywhere. And at all times, and what I hope the mole report up to this point has illustrated, rather. Well, is that no? In fact, the FBI and the United States government is made up of men and women hardworking men and women who have real limits some of which are legal limits. See Robert Mueller in his inability to indict the president. They are actually restrained by laws, and that's generally a good thing. More than generally a good thing. It is a good thing, but it's a good thing that comes with trade-offs and one of those trade offs is you're not always able to bring all the bad guys to full Justice. I think it's a off worth take. Thing. However, this is one of the occasions, where you feel the pains of that trade off, it would be nice to know more about Natalia vessels sky, but living in a country where we don't is a project very much worth fighting for shortly after his June. Third. Call with Ayman aga- layoff, Goldstone, emailed, Don jR, the Email stated good morning. Ayman just called me and asked me to contact you with something, very interesting. The crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father heiress this morning in, in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to her father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information, but is part of Russia and its government support for Mr. Trump helped along by heiress and Ayman men. There is a lot going on in terms of criminal in. Intent in that paragraph right there. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information, but is part of Russia and its government support for Mr. Trump. So whoever read this Email, Don jR at minimum knows now that the Russian government was attempting to support Donald Trump during this campaign, and Don jR, just sat on it that is damning for done junior. And now it's highly understandable, why Don jR was thinking. Hey, man. I might be facing some serious, legal exposure. Yeah. It's actually rather stunning, the Don jR isn't, what do you think is the best way to handle this information? And would you be able to speak to Ayman about a directly? I can also send this info to your father via Rona, but it is old tra- sensitive so wanted to send it to you. I best rob Goldstone Rona is don't Trump's personal assist. Rhona Graff, and there was some speculation during the investigation that if Rhona Graff flipped on Trump. Don't Trump would have a lot of problems. I think Rhona Graff, however largely had her nose cleaned. So she was not someone who was going to be able to be flipped in the same way that you could flip. Michael Cohen within minutes of this Email, Don jR responded back. Thanks, rob. I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment. But perhaps I just speak to Ayman. I seems we have some time, and if it's what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer, could we do a call first thing next week when I am back, Goldstone conveyed, Don juniors interest to aim Agla off emailing that Trump wants to speak personally on the issue. And I think this illustrates another investigative restraint on Muller and his team, which is yes, there was a lot of texting there was a lot of emailing. And there was a lot of dumb fold. During in that got the Trump boys in some trouble for sure. However, the Trump was are fairly, in walk and like to take things onto the phone and taking things onto the phone makes it a lot harder for the US government to investigate you because then they need things like Faisal warrants and you can get that in some cases. But can you imagine trying to keep it a secret that you're going to get a Faisal warrant on down Trump junior that's definitely going to get out, and that would have been a big problem for the US government? If Jim Komi had sought a Feis awards undone junior, he wouldn't have been able to keep that under wraps on June six twenty sixteen aiming Adler off asked Goldstone, if there was quote any news in Goldstone, explained that Trump junior was likely still traveling for the quote final elections were Trump will be quote crowned. The official nominee on the same day Goldstone, again, emailed, Trump junior and asked when Trump junior was quote, free to talk with Ayman. About this. Hillary info, Trump junior asked if they could quote speak now and Goldstone arranged a call between Trump junior in aim an off on June six and June. Seventh Trump junior and Ayman Agla had multiple brief calls. So again, here's the restrictions for the US government when they're trying to investigate these guys they can tell that they had these phone calls they can request the cellphone records, they can look at the cell phone records and they can see how long these phone calls were in terms of length. But what they can't see where the passively comes in is the nature of these phone calls. And so that creates a real barrier when robber Muller and his team or trying to demonstrate criminal intent. It's restriction, also on June six twenty sixteen errors off this Ayman's father called cavalcades and asked him to attend a meeting in New York with the Trump organization cavalier. Is a Georgian born naturalized us citizen, who worked in the United States for the crocus group and reported to eras off? So this is someone I believe this name because I'm tripping all over it. It came up in the chocolate covered peanut butter tower Kevollah, because we need to punish me more told the office that in a second phone call on June six of twenty sixteen Ariza, Galera asked cavalcades, if he knew anything about the Magnitsky act, an era sent him a short synopsis for the meeting in vessel. Knit skies business card according to cavalier, Ariza galore off said that the purpose of the meeting was to discuss the Magnitsky act, and he asked Kevin Lada to translate, what that last paragraph illustrates for us is going back to that chocolate and peanut butter analogy the aga- layoffs are both chocolate and peanut butter. The Galera were involved in the Trump Tower Moscow project. However, it appears that the admiral's are also acutely aware of the Russian government's efforts to help the Donald Trump campaign. So all these dealings with the Galera offs, you can say they're about business. You can say, oh, hey, I did a music video with the years ago. However, it appears that the are operating not independently, but as part of the Russian government's efforts to help the Donald Trump campaign, this next section focuses on who knew what when awareness of the meeting within the campaign on June seventh Goldstone, emailed, Trump junior and said that quote Ayman asked that I schedule a meeting with you and the Russian government attorney who's flying over from Moscow notice, the framing, the Russian government attorney, Don jR applied that Manafort identified as quote the campaign boss, jeered Kushner and Trump junior would likely attend. Goldstone was. Prized to learn the Don jR Manafort and Kushner would attend. Kava lauds redacted, puzzled by the list of ten dis in that he checked with one of Ayman admirals assistance. I'm going to just skip this name who said that the purpose of the meeting was for vessels sky to convey, quote, negative information on Hillary Clinton. So there's a little bit of confusion. I guess, among I go off in his crew that the Trump campaign is being so bold with this. However Aguirre assistant stated that he did not recall having known or said that which is interesting. I did not realize it Moore's team was able to get such access early on June eighth of twenty sixteen. Kushner emailed, his assistant, asking her to discuss eight three PM meeting the following day with Don jR later that day, Don jR, four did the entirety of his Email correspondence regarding the meeting with Goldstone Manafort in Kushner under the subject line of forward. Russia. Clinton, private and confidential. So, I think what's important here with even just that heading. We have Russia, this idea that Russia as a nation state has something to do with Clinton, and we need to keep this under wraps. What do you keep this under wraps, because you don't want people to know about it would be a problem if this got out, adding a note that quote meeting got moved to four o'clock tomorrow at my offices Kushner, then sent his assistant, a second Email informing her that, quote the meeting with Don jR is four PM. Now, Manafort, responded, CU you, then P Rick gates who was the deputy campaign chairman, stated during interviews with the office that in the days before, June ninth, twenty sixteen Don jR announced at a regular morning meeting of senior campaign staff in Trump family members that he had a lead a negative information about the Clinton foundation. Gates believed the Don jR said the information was coming from a group in cure. Stan, and that he was introduced to the group by friend. Okay. Gates, recalled that the meeting was attended by Don jR. Eric trump. Paul Manafort, hope Hicks. And joining late Avante Trump injured Kushner, according to gates Manafort, warns the group that the meeting likely would not yield vital information, and that they should be careful Hicks. Denied any knowledge of the June ninth meeting before twenty seventeen come on hope and Kushner, did not recall, if the planned June ninth meeting came up at all before earlier that week, Michael Cohen recalled being indulge Trump's office on June six or seven. When Don jR told his father, that a meeting to obtain adverse information about Clinton was going forward. Coen did not recall, Don jR stating. The meeting had connections to Russia from the tenor of the conversation Cohen believe, the Don jR previously discussed in the meeting with his father, although Cohen was. Not involved in any such conversation. In an interview with the Senate Judiciary committee. However, Don jR stated that he did not inform his father, about the emails or the upcoming meeting. And of course, there's no way to demonstrate that that was false. Similarly, nother Manafort, nor Kushner, recalled anyone informing the candidate Trump of the meeting, including Don jR. Donald Trump has stated to this office in written answers to these questions that he has, quote, no recollections of learning at the time that his son Manafort, or quote, Kushner was considering participating in a meeting in June sixteen concerning potentially negative information about Hillary Clinton. However, I think there's a more interesting question here, which is was don't Trump aware of the Russian government's efforts to help his campaign and more importantly for you. The listeners. Can you really make it through the section income out with a plausible narrative? We're in don't Trump. Doesn't know about this help coming from the Galera offs. That seems highly implausible to me, arrangements for the meeting Fessel. Knit sky was in New York on June. Ninth of twenty sixteen for appellate proceedings in the present civil forfeiture, litigation. That day vessel. Knit sky called Rene up mention a Soviet born US lobbyist, there's a redaction here. It's a short one, and when she learned that he was in New York, invited him to lunch a Metson told the office that he had worked on issues related to the Magnitsky act and had worked on the present litigation Kevollah say and initally Cima chore off. Sorry. If I got that name wrong a Russian born translator, who had assisted vessel skyer with the Magnitsky related lobbying, and the prevalant case also attended the lunch. There's another redaction here. It's a short one vessel. That sky said she was meeting. There's a redaction. Because of the grand jury here and asked at mention what she should tell him according to several participants in the launch vessel guy showed up mention a document alleging financial misconduct by Bill Browder. That's the man you heard earlier in the episode in the Ziff brothers Americans with business in Russia and those individuals subsequently, making political donations to the DNC, then there's another redaction because the grand jury, and this goes on for two lines. So it's probably a couple of sentences or one very long sentence. I don't know speculative guesses on any of these reductions guys. So I'm not even hazarding one. The group went to the Trump Tower for the meeting conduct of the meeting Trump junior Manafort and Kushner participated on the Trump side, while cover lots so mature enough at mention in Goldstone attended with vessel at sky, the office spoke to every participant except vessel that sky and Don jR, the latter of whom declined. To be voluntarily interviewed by the office. So Don jR was really worried about this because all of these other people were willing to speak to Robert Muller, Don jR rule is that he knew a lot and he was aware of a lot fairly early on. And also Don jR has probably been advised by at least somebody that he's not all that smart, probably a more diplomatic terms in that, and so, wouldn't be who've him to go and meet with rob molar and try to outsmart Muller and his team. The meeting lasted approximately twenty minutes, then there's another sentence, long redaction because of grand jury purposes Goldstone recalled that Don jR invited veselnitskaya to begin but did not say anything about the subject of the meeting participants agreed that vessel that sky has stated that the Ziff brothers had broken Russian laws and donate their profits to the DNC or the Clinton campaign. She asserted that the Ziff brothers had engaged in Texas Asian and money laundering in both the United States and Russia. That sounds familiar. According to mention Don jR full of questions about how the alleged payments could be tied specifically to the Clinton campaign, but vessels sky indicated that she could not trace the money once it entered the United States Cavalli's as similarly recalled the Don jR asked, what they had on Clinton and Kushner became aggravated and asked, what are we doing here? I'll mention then spoke about US sanctions imposed under the Magnitsky act. In Russia's response prohibiting US adoptions of Russian children, several participants recalled the Don jR commented that don't Trump is a private citizen, and there was nothing that they could do at this time Don jR also said that they could revisit the issue, if and when they were in government, which is pretty damning in fairly problematic because what you're promising. There is okay. Once we're in government. We can talk about this policy change what you're discussing as private citizens. Not good notes that Manafort, took on. His phone reflect the general flow of the conversation. Although not all of its details at some point in the meeting Kushner, Sinton I message to Manafort stating this meeting was a waste of time followed immediately by two separate emails to assistance. Kushner companies with requests that they give him an excuse to leave some mature Nov recalled the Kushner, departed the meeting before it concluded investment sky, recalled, the same when interviewed by the press in July of twenty seventeen. Here are manafort's notes from the meeting real quickly Bill Browder offshore Cyprus, one hundred thirty million dollars shares companies, not invest loan value in Cyprus as inter elicit active sponsors of our NC Browder hired Joanna Glover tied into Cheney Russian adoptions by American families, so not necessarily, the most detailed notes, but that gives you kind of a theme. Of the conversations you have the Russians who have casted Bill Browder at his lawyer, Sergei Magnitsky, as terrible villains of the Russian states. And I guess you can choose to believe the Russians on this, or you can choose to believe Bill Browder on this. I personally believe Bill Browder on this. I think his version of events is a lot more plausible. However, that's not really what we're here to discuss. Vessel sky, press, interviews and written statements to congress differ, materially from other accounts in a July twenty seventeen press interviews. So again, when all these people are going to the press and people in the media or saying, well Muller and his team aren't looking at the press, and they are looking at what's going on in the media sphere. That always struck me as crazy. And here the molar team is telling us. No, of course, we're looking at what they were saying in the press. And so the most certainly would have considered Trump statement to George Stephanopoulos in looking at all the section Veselin sky acclaimed, that she had no connection. Into the Russian government and had not referred to any derogatory information concern, the Clinton campaign, when she met with Trump campaign officials visited skies, November twenty seventeen written submission to the Senate Judiciary committee stated that the purpose of the June ninth meeting was not to connect with the Trump campaign, but to have a quote, private meeting with Donald Trump junior. A friend of my good acquaintances son on the matter of sitting me or my colleagues in informing the congress members as to the criminal nature of manipulation, it interference with the legislative activities of the US congress. Thank you molars team for this. In other words in other words, visited sky claimed her focus was on congress enough. The campaign, no witness, however recalled any reference to congress during the meeting. Veselin sky also maintained that. She quote attended the meeting as a lawyer of Dennis cats. If. That's the previously mentioned, owner of prevalant holdings, but she did not quote introduce herself in this capacity in July twenty seventeen interview, Don jR stated that while he had no way to gauge the reliability credibility or accuracy of what Goldstone had stated was the purpose of the meeting if quote someone has information on our opponent. Maybe this is something I should hear them out. Boy, that sounds familiar, and that was from July twenty seventeen Don jR further stated in September twenty seventeen congressional testimony that he thought he should quote, listen to what rob and his colleagues had to say, and I think that makes more sense, when you realize that the Agla are not just colleagues. They're people that the trumps have been doing business with for several years at that point, depending on what if any information was provided Trump junior stated that he could then quote consult with counsel to make an informed decision as to whether to give it any further. Consideration, Kelso who cancelled dad after the June ninth meeting concluded Goldstone apologize to Don jR, according to Goldstone, he told Trump junior and this was redacted because the grand jury, I'm guessing that means the Goldstone testified to the grand jury that blink opens up the subject to this verb told Ayman off in a phone call that the meeting was about adoptions. And then there's another redacted sentence after that errors off asked Cavalli's, eight a report after the meeting, but before cover logic call Ariza Galera called him with vessel. That sky next to him cover lots reported that the meeting had gone well, but he later told that the meeting about the Magnitsky act have been a waste of time, because it was not with lawyers, and that they were quote, preaching to the wrong crowd. So what do I think happened here in this meeting? I think there's a few different read on it. And I don't know that Moore and his team came up with a real. Clues on this. And if they did I don't know that they would put it out in this public version of the report, this seems to be something very counter intelligence easy. And so I think there's a few different versions of vents, one of this could legitimately just be a matter of crossed wires that they thought they were talking to the right people, and they weren't talking to the right people. More nefarious -ly this could have been an attempt for the Russian government to make the Trump team. Look, really bad. I think it's worth noting the big irony here that the whole pretenses of this meeting is for the Trump campaign to get information on the Clintons and their ties to the Russian government when the trumps are currently heavily involved with building the Trump Tower Moscow. This is June. Remember, they're still talking about building this Trump Tower Moscow the plan was for Trump Tower Moscow to be debuted to the world the day after Donald Trump. Gets the nomination and we're talking about June ninth of twenty sixteen at this point him gain the nomination is weeks away. He's already secured. He just needs to be officially declared the nominee. So that's what all this is happening in the backdrop. So the idea that the trumps are really appalled that the Clintons have ties to the Russian government. I mean, spare me there's no reason to believe that whatsoever. There's a little bit of pot and kettle going on here. And then if you go a little bit further on this, I think there's an argument to be made that the Russians are actually getting dirt on the Trump's right now. And certainly, if the Russians are aware of the idea of weapon, ising dirt on Russia than the Russians would be in the business of getting more dirt on Russia to be weaponized to be used to influence the US political process. The more toxic the Russian government is actually helps them when it comes to weaponising US political figures ties to Russia. So they have an inside. Tentative to do this exercise, and the Trump's fell right into it. I'm not really sure which one it is. But I think there's a few different reeds of these events. But what I don't think happened is something dramatically different from the blow by blow described by the Trump people and the Russians, I think that this meeting in terms of subject matter was about what everyone says it was about. And I think that this meeting was not particularly for full post junine events, vessel sky, and heiress Galera off made at least two unsuccessful attempts after the election to meet with Trump representatives to convey similar information about Browder in the Magnitsky act on November twenty third twenty sixteen Covelo emailed Goldstone about setting up another meeting with tea people sent a document bearing allegations, similar to those conveyed on June ninth Kaladze followed up with Goldstone stating that miss. Mr A which Goldstone understood to mean. Eras Agla off called to ask about the meeting Goldstone emailed, the document to Rhona Graff, saying that era Segler off has asked me to pass on this document in the hope that it can be passed onto the appropriate team. If needed a lawyer representing the case is in New York currently, and happy to meet with any member of his transition team. According to Goldstone around January twenty seventeen Covelo contacted him again up another meeting, but Goldstone did not make the request the investigation did not identify evidence of the transition team following up. So before we move onto the next paragraph, I something in this paragraph in that classic Muller style passive voice, that's just dangling out there and certainly worth further scrutiny. So if you believe as I do, and I think it's hard to read the mole report and come up with any other conclusion than this that vessel that sky and era saga off. And all the Russians are in the room on June ninth in Trump Tower. Because the Russian government wanted them there than something prompted vessel sky, and errors Galera off to once again pursue the Trump people now that the Trump people have become president remember, the backdrop of this meeting Goldstone, presented it to Don jR as this is part of the Russian government's attempt to help your father become president. So if for whatever reason, despite the fact that the Trump organization was building a Trump Tower Moscow starting in twenty fifty. Let's put all that to the side. If you want to believe that Trump truly had no idea that Russia was trying to help him up to June ninth. It's basically impossible to believe that after June ninth. He didn't have any idea that Russia was trying to help him. He almost certainly did. It's kind of in south that he wouldn't. So when the Russians show back up after Trump has been elected. President and there has been all this Tom. Foolery balderdash, mannequins bullshit, you choose your word involving WikiLeaks in October of the campaign, which managed to come up right? When access Hollywood showed up, there was perfect synchronous assistance from the Russian government. And also this whole Russia. If you're listening thing, it appears that Trump had some sort of presence of mind, here, he's surely should have gotten the message about the Magnitsky sanctions when they were trying to reach out to them and probably would have gotten the reminder regardless of whether or not he had taken the meeting. It's funny to me, and I think it's plausible that these people are so dense that they didn't realize that there's a tit for tat here in a wink, wink nudge, nudge, know what I mean on these people don't know what you mean participants in the June ninth twenty sixteen meeting began, receiving inquiries from attorneys representing the Trump organization starting in approximately June of twenty seventeen. So this is after. Donald Trump becomes president after he fires. Jim Komi after things start really, really looking bad for him in Judah toy seventeen on approximately June. Second twice seventeen Goldstone spoke with Alan Garton, the general counsel of the Trump organization about his participation in the June ninth meeting the same day Goldstone emailed Veselin sky as name to garden identifying her as quote woman who was the attorney who spoke at meeting from Moscow later in June of twenty seventeen Goldstone participated in a lengthier call with garden. And Alan foodservice the outside counsel for the Trump organization and subsequently, the personal counsel for done junior on June twenty seventh of twenty seventeen Goldstone emailed, Ayman Agla of with the subject, Trump attorneys instated stated that he was quote, interviewed by attorneys about the June ninth meeting who were concerned because it links, Don jR, too. Officials from Russia, which he has always denied the meeting Goldstone stress that he did quote say, at the time that this was a terrible idea and a terrible meeting. Ayman aga- of sent a meeting of the message to cover Lada, the June ninth meeting became public in July of twenty seventeen in July ninth twenty seventeen. Text message to aim aga- lira of Goldstone wrote, I made sure I kept you in your father out of this story. And if contacted I can do a dance and keep you out of it Goldstone added, FBI now, investigating and quote, and this is the most interesting quote here. I hope this favor was worth it for your dad, it could blow up. So that's real interesting. And I think it makes I don't think that Ayman Agla of the fail son of this Russian oligarch is the puppet master here anymore than I think, Goldstone is, I think Goldstone is being used as the go between. Clean. And I think the one thing that Goldstone was able to do quite effectively, when we first heard about the Trump Tower meeting was bringing this weird cast of characters like what is this pop producer doing in the Donald Trump story? Everyone's like, oh God that's so weird and everyone marvels at the weirdness and while it's fun. And you know you can certainly scoff at it occasionally should like have a laugh every now and then sure, but when you take a step back, all of these things really do add up, it makes sense, because Goldstone is aiming aga- lira of publicist. Ayman Agla office. The son of Arizona Galera of Arizona. Layoff is the developer that Trump has been working with to make the Trump Tower Moscow. And so all of these dots are actually connected in a way that chore Ling over the fact that rob Goldstone is some washed up pop star guy doesn't actually allow you to get your brain around. We're now at the bottom. Of page one Twenty-one in this last line on page one Twenty-one that rules over onto one twenty two is a very interesting line on July twelve twenty seventeen. Eighteen aga- off complained to cover lots that his father heiress never listened to them. Okay. Well, let's stop right here. So I wanted to get the joke of the way what does that tell us what that tells us is that heiress is the point man for all this, and more in his team put this together. This is obviously been put over the counter intelligence side. But there's a very limited cast of characters that you could think of that would be prompting. Errors aga- Lear off real estate developer to go over and talk to the Trump people about the Magnitsky act sanctions, and I think you can narrow down that list of suspects pretty tightly here. This appears to be the molar team, narrowing down, albeit was circumstantial evidence, but pretty strong circumstantial evidence that is, is the mass. Strident here, aiming continues to complain to have laws that his relationship with, quote, Mr. T has been thrown down, the drain, not, Mr. TI pay the full, but Mr. T as Mr. Trump. This is I just think a bad read the next month Goldstone commented to aim Agla of about the volume of publicity. The June ninth meeting had generated stating that his reputation was basically destroyed by this dumb meeting which your father insisted on even though AMI told them would be bad news. And not to do Goldstone added, quote, I am not able to respond out of courtesy to you and your father. So I am painted as some mysterious linked to Putin. And in a way Goldstone, you are kind of a mysterious linked to Putin. But in this very tin gentle, cutout he sort of way. And I guess that's what Goldstone is feeling the pressure over because he can't out heiress Galera. He's now having to take all the heat albeit he serving as a heat shield, and this is what he said he would do, but it's not fun to serve as a heat shield after public reporting. On the June ninth meeting began representatives from the Trump organization. Again reached out to participants on July tenth of twenty third. On July tenth of 2017 food, or sink Goldstone in Email with the proposed statement for Goldstone to issue, which read as the person who arranged the meeting as the person who arranged the meeting. I can definitively state that the statements I have read by Donald Trump junior are one hundred percent accurate. The meeting was a complete waste of time and on was never told MRs veselnitskaya name prior to the meeting. Mrs veselnitskaya mostly talked about the Magnitsky act and Russian adoption laws and the meeting lasted twenty thirty minutes at most. There was never any follow up and nothing came of the meeting. So the last line, there was never any follow up. That's a lie. The Russians followed up on this. And so when Don jR has been saying publicly, all, there's never any follow up in one sense. You could say oh we didn't follow up on the meeting. That's true. But there was full of by the Russians. And by the way, the FBI I should have known about it. Yes, you tell the. FBI redacted, the s-. Statement drafted by the Trump organization representatives was redacted. I don't know what other one of those reductions are did wanna read the sentence, though he proposed a different statement asserting that he had been asked, quote by his client in Moscow. Aiming Galera off to facilitate a meeting between a Russian attorney Natalia vessel that sky indulge from junior. The lawyer had apparently stated she had some information regarding funding to the DNC from Russia, which she believed Mr. Trump junior might find interesting Goldstone never released either statement. But what's interesting about that additional spin line is we're, pinning it on Amen. And Amen wouldn't have been thrilled about that at all on the Russian end. They're also communications about what participants should say about the June ninth meeting, specifically the organization that hired so much worn off the anti Magnitsky group controlled by vessel sky, and the owner of Preval's on. They offered to pay ninety thousand dollars of. His legal fees, vessel guys request the organization sent him transcript of a vessel sky of present view. And he understood that the organization would pay his legal fees, only if he made statements that were consistent with vessel that skies, some chore Nov declined, telling the office that he did not want to perjure himself, the individual who conveyed vessel skies request to mature enough stated that he did not expressly condition payments on falling skies answers. But in hindsight, recognized that by sending the transcript cemetery off could have interpreted the offer of assistance to be conditioned on him. Not contradicting vessel skies account volume to discuss his interactions between President Trump, Trump junior and others in June and July twenty seventeen regarding the June ninth meeting. So we will discuss more of the fallout on that up Assode when we get to volume too, but that is going to draw this episode of our mole. 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RNC Nights 1 and 2 Recap

Making Podcasts Great Again

32:04 min | 2 months ago

RNC Nights 1 and 2 Recap

"Role. Report on. What's going on? Who One? Welcome back see another episode of making podcast. Great. Again, tonight, we have the RNC recap for nights. One too. I am your tech stuff guy. Jane Arc, and we are here straight from the Rose Garden. But the president of the United States of America Mr Donald J TRUMP MR president before we start, do you have something on your nose your mouth a little now it's you know for these late nights you gotta have strung energy. So they're making I was told by by my wife. Melanoma that they're doing. Coke. Diet coke. Now comes in powder form and it gives you. A diet coke but this powder diet coke 'cause you should have a very strong. Powerful rush of great energy very strong energy. They're telling you that that diet coke is made into a white powder form that you put up your nose. When I, because that's how you get more potency need. Another spot as president after stay awake many hours. Okay and especially on a night like this showing great things to America I have to have great energy. They don't WanNa. See me out there being tied and wanting to go to bed. So thank you to my wife Madagascar forgetting this and it's a it's a great thing. Speaking of your wife Madagascar she made a speech tonight. Very, heartfelt speech she taught very nicely about you. She didn't the Rose Garden which she recently re did those a little strain as she ripped out a tree that was planted for JFK. But besides on the should very nice job she prefers leaders that you know don't get shot. All assets. owned. By the way by the way. Yes given proper respect. I was told that today it still there's still time as we record this almost midnight but. Two years ago you know who died two years ago today. It's it's not Jeffrey Epstein because we had a giant celebration for him. I don't know. I'll give you and. His daughter has very big breasts. John McCain. John McCain helped me like seeing. My Convention from you know looking about looking above and seeing how great I'm doing. Mr President the man is deceased is there really is really necessary to bring him tonight. I wanted to keep the party going I've got this great diet coke powder and I've got you know. My, my wife Messily Al gave a great speech. And you know got all odds right? Well, most let's be honest. Most of words. But it was a it's a great night and I thought what better way to you know like dessert that was dinner and dessert is we're going to actually Meghan McCain soon. She your wife. She doesn't. This trump I had this McCain impersonator to call Meghan McCain at midnight tonight. That's our next president. You had her father and a person of her father call her from the grave is a joke no, not yet in a few minutes. Scheduled Now. A couple of things about your your wife's speech than I thought she did a very nice job. The thing is why wh- teleprompters to the sides and not in front of her KIP looking to the left and Riley when she looked straight ahead it looks like. A. Deer in the headlights. Name for this episode. Well, that's I'm telling you. That's what it looked like. So So, and then she she ever blink. When instructed do? So she needs permission to to blink. not always but sometimes, but yeah, now she was I thought it was great. I thought she was so great. So much a passion and energy and she looked like a total natura. I. Thought Something Might Bother you she referred. To. Cova. As cove in nineteen, she didn't refer to it as Flew Jitsu or the trainees flew or anything like that. She didn't refer to that. Did that bother you? Then make me happy I can tell you. It did not make me. I was not happy to hear that I was not happy at all, but it was. You know she's still learning the language and she doesn't know. Alegre slurs inaugurated south. So she's using what words she can, and that's okay. What the I'm surprised you didn't coach her to say another name for her impression unlike may who does spot on impressions of all our Great Asian people? She's not as good impression. So when I acted out for her, she wasn't able to repeat that. So we thought better better not try because I told her. And she. She can do that now very weak on impressions. Sorry to hear that. Next. I want to talk to you about one from one woman who spoke very nicely tonight, your wife to let's just go back to night one of the RNC. Kimberly go for. Now She was very excited lot of energy during her speech and. was she yelling at the time? I think she wanted to impress me. Were you impressed. I did give her. A K. to my hotel room. So I'll take that as yet. You were disappointed because I remember Don Jr. saying she was a screamer I just didn't know he meant during speeches I bet he meant something else now she's an insane person i. think she might have been on drugs I think she might be dealing with some mental. Health issues as well. I mean I like she's got a nice. Figure faces a little strange. You know she's sort of a strange looking woman with all the. She's like if you went to a steakhouse. All our sides are a plus. But then the steak is like a sloppy weird looking thing. SORT OF A. Great hips great breasts. And she's got that sort of she's like the divorced fifty year old or fifty one year old. So she's like she's like a Tiktok her she's out there to prove that she's like look at me look at my tits, took it out. Loud. I can yell like my Tech Talk. and. You know it's a little as the kids would say thirsty but I respect the effort. If you knew, she was going to give her speech like that. Would you let her do it again? I would've told her to do it with less 'cause on like. Just. Just. To make it more interesting. Screaming like a lunatic Bikini would have been totally what she's already going viral and imagine how much more viral she'd gone if she just showed up in a bikini and screamed. All nobody could duck about sleepy Joe, they'd be talking about screaming how? They. Are, talking about screaming out today for sure she was all over twitter I saw. So I guess any press is good press, right? For the most part I think she she showed that. Hurricane, the press is good press. Now let's get to her significant other Don Jr. who spoke also on. Pathetic what? What was wrong with his eyes did someone shove his is inside of his head or was he on drugs also I think he was very strongly powerfully on drugs. Tower. Now, you saw I mean he was fidgeting with with his suit jacket as he looked like he was on the verge of tears the whole time. When. He was talking about protective personal equipment personal protective PP he said. And I was like, what is it a gas company? It's There's no end. Yes. silly. Kinloss drugged out pitch. Because he they he and Kimberly foil there together and both of their speeches were crazy. So. I would say in the future if you have been speaking again in any way, I would have that behind closed doors and now with cameras. Yeah, there were I. mean they were maybe there. I didn't think they were a great couple but I look at them and think. Maybe you made for each. Year. Both so desperate for. Attention and people the like you. It was Kim Guilfoil I give her credit because shoes she said of the outsider she's trying to win me over. And you know she used to be married to a Democrat. So I think she feels like she needs to prove something. So I respect that and I just say the fact that she dresses sort of like A. Like a Miami. Like a divorce say in Miami who's WHO's out to fuck boo-boys. I. Kind of like that energy. Don Jr. has now excuse what he does is pathetic. It was awful Mr President Question. Why does everyone in your family have to speak? Out Everybody's speaking bull baron didn't speak. He's young. Your your youngest. But WE'RE GONNA get to the tiffany spoke Ivanka did not speak yet but Don Jr. spoke Eric spoke. Malania spoke everyone your family is speaking. except. The real first lady of Anka gets to speak last. You've saved the best for the last. Like, like a great dessert made of. The best surgical parts. Now she is speaking on Thursday, night or Wednesday night. It's a good. Quite I'd like to speak both nights price speaking on Thirsty Thursdays. Yvonne. Can only speak on thirsty Thursdays. Mr President. The Days Yohe per mouth is full. What do you weigh of invoking? Great Lord. Well you you're talking about her mouth being full. I don't even WanNa get into how her mouth is all every other day except Thursday Thursday. Like what you're insinuating you're saying. You say excuse me. You're not going to talk about it. Then you start to leave it there like a nasty thing I left there, and then you said something I was just GonNa leave it now but you said you they can you just left it would have been. Okay. But when when somebody goes I'm just GONNA leave that they're that's their way of saying I'm commenting without commenting. I just I had a reaction because she said her mouth every other day and then. I just think that's a little inappropriate for father to speak of their daughter. Well, she does intermittent fasting and on Thursday is the day that she on the goes on a liquid diet. So I don't know you're thinking I was saying. But. said. Her mouth was full every other day. How can your mouth be full if you're fasting? Every. In other words, every other day Thursday thirsty Thursday it's not full. And the I said every other day our mouth is fomenting. She's eating quality food. Okay. Yeah. The days I don't. See I think everybody in our. you know all. Know what I'm talking about. Okay. News also cannot begin this week. We didn't cover this in the regular episode Mr President, but Richard Spencer. Does that name ring a bell? Great. Patriot. he was a hardcore right nationalist almost would say borderline Nazi he did the Nazi salute at the White House one time he is now with Democrats supporting. Biden he's a biden supporter now. Do, you have any feelings about that? is obviously not strong enough. That's that's gets as not strong enough. You have fake Hashtag fake nationalist. Thank you is totally fake and was using this as a PR stunt. Going off the podcast record. We're off. Now, he's doing it just to make Joe Biden look bad I've already talked to Richard Spencer we We called it operation Heil Biden. And it's going well for. Okay back on the podcast record. Okay. I. Don't I. Don't know. I don't know to be honest a I don't know the man. You, know I think if Joe Biden wants to get those kinds of endorsements that bruise that what we've been staying, which is sleepy. Joe is a sleepy racist. I I don't know but he's not choosing the man. The man is choosing him. It's different. See. A difference. Biden I don't think really wants anything to do with this man. You're like courting this guy you were you were friendly with this man. This. Right but now he switched teams now you well. You don't seem to care that much. My little tired and I was a little disturbed by Mike Pence's performance tonight during the convention. What didn't you? Like about his his performance is let's be honest. The guys loyal. He's one of the creepiest gay mannequins I've ever seen. How the creep you out tonight. Just look at them it just when he speaks you like, why is this Gay Mannequin? Speaking why Z. Talk it's just you should be in the store. Wearing. Atlas japs. With a ball gag in a window and just standing there. You know they named the Mannequin like silver daddy something and that's that's it. Instead. He was talking he was touching like kids and. Saying hired a single MOMS and I thought I thought Mother didn't like you to do that. I thought he's not allowed to be with other women. I. Guess The camera people were there so. I guess that that count as you know. Spiritual. Company or something are you having second thoughts of having Mike Pence as your vp Now and you have the sexual gimped for Christ on your side who can be against you. Sexual. Rights is that your new name for him? I thought we've called them before I don't know if it came out like that. So. Poetic. He's a he inspires great poetry. Well. I'm sorry that you're not happy with him. Hopefully, he'll do better. This is not GonNa make you happy either from your night warm performance and compared to Biden's night one performance Biden in higher viewership than you on night one. Thoughts. Well he was the first night of all conventions, you know hadn't been any conventions yet. So go let's see what happens in the Democrat convention. Now, everybody sees to strong job doing and I don't think I. Think there's greater enthusiasm those maybe curiosity to see if sleepy Joe was asleep. You think more people tuned in to see if Biden was awake during his convention. Is that what you're telling. Binga. And then but I tell you if people had known that Kim Guilfoil was GONNA turn into A. You know. A pointer. Oil Pornographic screaming maniac I. think we would have shattered. That's why we WANNA promoter. I. Think we're going to bring her back Thursday. And now, Kim Guildfoil topless with a gun mouth threatening to pull the trigger. Come. See a great speech. They'll gay you higher ratings for sure tremendous ratings I know how to get ratings. I think you know this I think you know that I'm very strong on writings. Can Kill for. His speech, Topless Governor Bell, you're going to get the high ratings. GRADUATES AWESOME JOE is not willing to go there for his country. Now this was. Strange decision I thought the mccloskey's the the couple that had there. Are tillery out when the protests. That Great Patriots Day Great Patriots. Who knew they would shine brighter than Don Jr. son and that was a shame. Now Don Don Jr. is now. Taking his name away. Issues. Run the my first wife who's now ugly name as Ivana she used to be a model and she's a very ugly woman so I don't talk to her. She wrote in her book that I didn't want to name Don Jr.. Don Jr., because I was afraid he might be a loser said if he's a loser, he gets my name. And I listened to that. Stupid trash model. And went with Donald Junior. And you see now he's a short checklist bitch that goes terrible speeches and dates. Psychopaths named Kim Guilfoil. Mr President of the United States. I'm sure you could amend his birth certificate and give him a different name now. While we're looking into sort of you know if planned parenthood can do anything about it. Try to board him. Well looking into it. What name would you give if you can give them any other name? Sleepy Joe Biden trump. Great. Great. Job. Somebody's got the midnight giggles. You. Got Me there. Me Right here. A. Day. Mr President during night one you so interviewed and spend some personal Thomas Front line workers. Did you see that everybody talks about Joe Biden know? He's so so much sympathy so much empathy. I stood next to those boy disgusting people. And talk to them like they're regular people, I stood there and ask them questions like they mattered. That they do matter they do. Well, you know there's sort of poor. They should be very thankful to even be near me but now there's Some of those people do testing work not very very educated than not. Looking into whether some of them have criminal records but. These are not strong people and I still at them in the white. House to show how much I respect our everyday. Americans even the ones that are worthless and stupid. That's that's not very nice. Even know there what do you mean? That's not that's that's the nicest thing you can do when you think somebody's a worth a human being and you're still let them into your home at. We showed great respect Obama never did that I'm a few questions about that whole interaction. Why were you all standing around awkwardly like you're all waiting for an uber like it was a strange just standing why was that were protesting by not social distancing? Without masks so hopefully. Those people are now it but they are sort of heroes even though they're sort of expendable with. We had covid. Circulating in the air. You re testing them. Well, we'll find out I. Guess you'll find out if they live will know that. There were strong people. See. retesting testing how the front line workers were affected by cove into the air how come you weren't affected by it. We've got while you don't listen to the podcast. I have an incredibly strong system. Okay. I don't get sick because I. Eat fourteen to eighteen McDonald's meals a week. So my system is. You know Calvin Cheese man says that pick somebody else I get so covert scared of you. Knows that it has no, it can't. It can't win against me 'cause you're tougher than covert right and it's these. Vice President. Big. Game Mike. Pence and says that guy survived I don't know how many bareback truckstop trips in the eighties. Let us with him either let's not mess with it from the eighties. To present day. And he's totally healthy too. So they know that we've you have a president and vice-president with the strongest immune systems anywhere. So Kovic, you gotta look. We thought let's see if it. Wants to munch on. Somebody's poorly educated losers that are showing being shown. Great respect by that president. Well if you're showing them such great respect how come you didn't ask them any of their names. No they have we we got the names before, but it wasn't. It wasn't important for the DVD parents. That's fine. Your voter tiffany trump spoke tonight in a two day to night to I call her fat Miley Cyrus. She she moves her head a lot. All around like a bobblehead do you notice that shoes? There's a lot of problems with that one. I. Know I I not a day goes by that. I don't go. Why didn't you? Why don't you just use the check? I gave you Martha Naples. That I need seven, hundred dollars I gave are seven fifty. So she'd have cab fare home. And next thing you know twelve years later you gotta? You Know Tanya trump just walking around. You also had Nick Sandman the guy who was. In Washington DC being harassed by the native American man. Bang the drum and his face. You had him speak. He's speaking and scancen culture would speaking as a strong pro-life young man, any resources speaking I think on behalf of school shooters who want to get back to school so they can continue shooting. I mean you look at that kid he's one trenchcoat away from ten homicides. He's he's he's a strong Christian warrior and also probably Homicide Maniac. You're staying mixim Sam Amas they're speaking mainly to get schools open again to encourage school shooters to. Start up again is that is that what I'm getting? They gotta get kids back in school and he's the motivator. Wants to be back in school he wants to. I think he's just a strong Patriot who loves the Second Amendment loves his God loves his. Maga- hat. Did you see I put the Maga hat onto own the LIBS? DOT allowing. He is a an interesting character. I thought a very good speech tonight. Your son Eric Trump. Very good speech very heartfelt. The end it was almost like a little love letter to his father Would you think of his speech? Here's the thing. And I know there's a lot of people listen to show. They know I have three kids. And so so many is I've acted like I only add to Don Jr. and the beautiful. Tall beautiful sexual full figured. POUTY LEAPT Thinking about a mouth. Ca Trump. What else are you talking about? What he what do you mean? You said Saudi Lipton you said you're not just talking about her mouth. It's It's just an expression. My Dad. I didn't know that expressed an What you're insinuating but I didn't know I was just asking I wasn't I I didn't know that expression. You're smart man. Strong cognitive. So. But tonight. And I have an import. This is actually I think our listeners are going appreciate this. This is going to change the way we do the podcast from now on really. I used to have two kids. And then occasionally, I'd remember Eric. while. Don Jr. his disgraceful performance and Eric because of his. I would say very strong. On multiple levels strong speech. I now have two kids but their names are Ivanka and Eric and Don Jr. is now on. Sun. Probation. Tiffany's not even in the running and Aaron either. So they're not even in the running. WHO WHO's running out? Well, I'm running for number running direction. Running to be your child. It, can't. That's how babies get mad enough. You know this are your children you just not acknowledging it. Can Ivanka Don Jr. on Sun Probation? Before. We get into the last topic there's some great news. Today for all the pigs out there that we do have a new website president, it's MPG a pod dot com has all podcast episodes will have our youtube page has other videos on their lots of different content merchandise tour dates. So check out the site if you're a friend who doesn't download I tunes, whatever it is listen to the episodes right from there all the episodes right there mpg a pod dot com it's on the twitter page at truck Crockett, share it by a t shirt it's. It's a bit I. Think it's a very beautiful sight. It's fantastic. And as an only fans tab as well that futures Melatonin Ivanka in stem ns w action. It did not know that part of the website I should speak to developers and also for everyone in the tri-state area on August thirty first that's Monday night. This Monday at the Stress Factory in New Jersey Stress Factory Dot com seven thirty PM. It's going to be a crazy great show talking about the DNC the RNC. Some special surprises. So check that out also the last piece of news I WanNa talk about you were supposed to have another speaker and the speaker was kicked out last-second. Her name was Mary and Mendoza she started by she sounds like an illegal. Sh an angel families, dot com, and today what she did she shared an anti-semitic Cunanan. Post a conspiracy theory something about Jews horrible thing today that she shared and she apologized. But you still your administration said, you're not speaking anymore what led to this decision or apology. Please explain. Everybody knows I don't do. I don't do apology. Were strong with for you can't have somebody on your convention. Excuse me what somebody WHO's apologizing At. My Convention No. No. No apologies is one of the core. Beliefs in the trump presidency. So I have no problem issuance to is great free speech to talk about Kushner's. Apologize and you look weak. We can have that that's a disgrace. Show. We we got rid of a very quickly. We're going to have we were going to have her in. And then I saw that she had issued an apology and I said you're a disgrace you. I don't ever want to talk to you again. So if Mary Mendoza tweeted that and didn't apologize. She. She'd be excuse me she'd be better than fine. Wanted to clear that up. Mr President I know you had very long day today I just want to thank you again for coming on. So late I still have some work to there's some and I get some more powder diet coke kit, some more powdered coke, and for all the figures it out there, check out the website MPG a pod dot com check out everything on there and Mr President. I will speak you tomorrow night after RNC three. Looking forward to it big gay Mike Pence his time. You know at the center of the dance floor just. rollerblades wife Beater and a little bit of village people. And it's going to be It's going to be one of the strongest nights we've ever seen. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT MR president good luck with the rest of your work tonight and Tomorrow.

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Episode 82

Thug Mills - How Good Is This?

01:34 min | 4 months ago

Episode 82

"We would like to acknowledge the what under the people of the Kulin nation, who are the traditional owners of the land on which we on? We pay respect to the what under the elders past present and emerging. Hi, this is Danni. From the THUG MOS podcast. How does this like mills feel strongly about the events of last few weeks where we have witnessed a horrific escalation place violence against protesters and people of all of course, America and we continue to be aware of the injustice against the traditional owners of this land, whether it be placed brutality rates of incarceration gaps in health, education, employment and monetary inequity we. We feel that what would make sense at this time would be to try and amplify black creators and voices. We feel that this is not the time for us to be heard, but to listen to the voices of others, and to try and educate ourselves to those who have been oppressed. There is no amount of education that will help us to understand what that is truly like. We encourage you to seek out and support creators and oddest while she also find ways to support protesters. Otherwise you can support include donating to the justice. David Don Jr. Fund. The sisters inside Bile Fund and pay the rent. You can also donate to the Aboriginal Legal Service, which aims to address the other representation of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Allen People in the criminal justice system. We wish you all the best in health and safety at this time.

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Ep. 447 - Cant Stump Trump(s)

The Michael Knowles Show

49:47 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 447 - Cant Stump Trump(s)

"Donald trump junior takes no prisoners during an appearance on the view. Meanwhile smart ex administration officials stay on the trump train and even more Democrats Democrats get ready to jump into. The presidential race is the odds of the president's reelection. In increase we will examine why Teflon Don the Teflon. Don's keep keep winning Nikki. Haley blows the whistle on sabotage in President Trump's cabinet surveys show conservatives or hotter and more dateable than liberals I've been saying for years and a a young Maga- hat glad hero trolls. MSNBC all that more Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles show so much to get to the Don Jr. Clip on the view is one of the most satisfying things. I have seen on network television in my entire life. I want to get to that. I especially want to get to the story about how hot we all are but I think our friends over with stamps camps dot COM STAMPS DOT COM. You know that the holiday season is upon us. 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I know how to describe it so I will give it no introduction other them to say the view made a very very big mistake inviting inviting on Donald trump junior to promote his new book triggered. Here is how the interview began talking about lowering the discourse to his level which is horrible so this country even if people are working we don't WanNa have a country like that. We've the things that we regret. Okay so I want it to be clear here. They started the fight fight. The view started the fight. The way this is being portrayed in the media as Donald Trump junior came in there with guns blazing just going out to la bombs at the hosts hostesses of the view. That's not what happened. Joy Behar's started it and she said look. I don't care if people are working. I don't care if the economy's going great I don't care if consumer a Confidence is very high. I don't care if all of that is so great. The discourse has been lowered in this country which is the greatest example of a pot hot calling and kettle black. I have ever seen in my life. Joy Behar a host of the view. A show that has almost single-handedly degraded discourse in America. I mean truly. An example of some of the worst discourse in the American public sphere is is hurling this insult to trump and saying your father has degraded discourse in America. This shows you key fact about trump which I think a lot of trump's critics misunderstand especially as critics on the right misunderstand this what we're pointing out so much of the time what is clear so much of the time from the trump era is not that Donald Donald Trump is the greatest guy that ever lived. It's not that Donald Trump is the most eloquent guy or the greatest president isn't that it's the trump is better than his his critics. The lesson is that the criticisms lobbed by trump's critics are actually more applicable to the critics themselves. It's it's this total explosion of self awareness because if you are a hostess on the view accusing somebody any else degrading discourse you have lost the narrative so Joi Bay starts the attack. She says you've degraded our discourse your father's offensive and John Don Jr. things that we regret I mean if we're talking about bring discourse joy you've worn black face won't be I I I'm sorry and Polanski. It wasn't rape rape a child. So let's I'll I'll tell you so you don't want to bring this up. The question came on. I did not allow black face please. He was not in Black Fan. Just sorry listen being black. I recognize blatch. What's base this? I can say so no. Apparently she doesn't because Whoopi Goldberg very famously was sitting and laughing at a dinner next to her. Then boyfriend boyfriend Ted Danson who was wearing actual black face by the way. I'm not attacking Whoopi Goldberg Ted. Danson for this but clearly we'll be Goldberg has a history here. You're with black face and it's you can't use that attack to assault You can't use the attack of offensiveness to assault Donald Trump or donald trump junior or any of them. And then meanwhile deny that your friends and your CO hosts of Warren Black face and say it never happened. It's just gas lighting. We saw it happen. We saw the photo of Ted Danson. And by the way we saw joy behar wearing black face in the nineteen seventies and. She didn't just wear it. We didn't see the photo. She actually admitted to it on television. Oh Oh you know this picture you know. It was a Halloween Party and went as a beautiful African woman. Oh yes anyway black hair via but is that is me tanning lotion on a little makeup. That was a little little bit a little. Makeup was a little bit darker. Makeup was just a lie. Okay so I wore dark makeup to go so in a costume as a black person. But that's not black face because it's only black face when conservatives do it even though I can't think of a time that conservatives have done it because Justin Firdaus not a conservative Ralph north not a conservative. Ted Dances not a conservative joy. Behar's medical -servative. I could go on and on and on Billy Crystal's not a conservative address. Like Sammy Davis Junior. We we would spend the whole show talking about left-wingers wearing black face and I'm not even attacking them for that. I'm pointing out the gas lighting. Because Whoopi Goldberg Joy. Behar say black faces terrible. You can't I never wore it. I've never approved if anybody wearing. Yes you did you did so maybe before you start throwing stones at Donald Trump for how offensive he is. Maybe just take a look before you accuse me take a look at yourself. So Don Jr. flips the script on the view. This is a key of the trump era. Is that flipping the script. What's good for the goose is good good for the Gander of the left is going to attack us in a way that some deem unfair trump is going to attack them in that way? He's not going to unilaterally disarm and apparently the straight applies not just to the father but also to the sun. You broke them this piece of ice because I guess this is the fight you want. It is but if we're calling You questioning my character. I'm not talking about your questioning. My father's I'd say I'd infested anybody I simply said. Uh that when you're talking about your father's taking more heat than anybody else that is not so instead yes I don. So she says this is the fight you wanted done junior. No it's not. They started the fight. This is what the left always always does to us. Say you started it. You want the fight. You're bringing no we. Don't you know when we when we go to college. Campuses some of US conservatives who go give speeches which is a college campuses the the left which becomes often by actually physically violent becomes almost always disruptive accused us of starting the fight. We're not starting the fight. We're giving lectures at college campuses. That's what college campuses are four were exchanging different ideas on college. What's campus that's where college campuses are for the people who are causing disruption the people lobbying the tax the people who are becoming sometimes violent? They're the ones who are starting starting in their gas lighting US and for so long conservatives. Were coward by this kind of behavior would say oh. Gosh they're calling us they're saying restoring the fight on TV we don't want to seem like the TV stacked against us. So they're gonNA make us look bad and we don't WANNA look bad and we're trying to appeal to the people that the TV appeals to so we're just going to back down and let the left run roughshod over the culture not just on TV but in the movies not just in the movies but on college campuses and the thing that people love so much about trump even more than the mean tweets even more than some of the policy successes. Frankly is that he's fighting adding back. This is a trait that after trump has gone trump is a unique figure in American politics. Once he's gone. You're not gonNA have candidates like him anymore is one of a kind okay. An American original but we can at least learn this one lesson from trump which is just. Don't take it don't lie down and take it even when you're invited it into the lion's den on the view don't just lie there and take it they start the fight you finish the fight. Don Jr. then goes nuclear nuclear at the end of this. He's prompted by question from Abby Huntsman whom I love when by the way when I am criticising hosts on the view just assume that. I'm not criticizing Abby Huntsman. Who is a friend of mine for a while and I like very much however my friendship with abby does not excuse the other women on the view Ajoy Bahar who are just absolutely destroying public discourse so abby abby pushed back on done junior and says your father or is imperilling the whistle blower. Your father is not following the norms on the whistle blower. It's important that we protect whistle blowers and whistle blowers are great. And and if you ever reveal the identity of whistle blower or otherwise punish whistle blower for blowing the whistle. You're really being bad whistle blowing sort of person don Jr. flips descriptive in their outraged. Because I care about diplomacy in this country I care about how we protect the people when they see a wrongdoing that they go through the proper political channels near protected for doing that. So you can see the that. Let's give ourselves name has been out there for five days. It doesn't make it right but nevertheless the right now chasing down a whistle blower about all of the Epstein stuff because those stories were killed so if we're going to have the conversation about the average we don't we stay you work with allison whereas we sticks w working stick to what she asked him the question just because if we start getting so you see what won't be dozen there. She jumps in the mid the minute. That Don Jr. Answers Abbey's point won't be says no no no we're not talking about the Epstein whistleblower. We're not talking about the people at ABC News who leaked video to James O'Keefe of our own hosts talking about how ABC he news killed the Epstein Story. We're not talking about that kind of whistle blower. We're only talking about the kind of whistleblower hurts trump. You can't talk about. She says you you've got to stay on topic. Don Jr. is staying on topic. He's saying hold. On a second you're casting aspersions on my father for for what for saying that. He has a right to face his accuser. All in the name of the whistle blower. Meanwhile you're network that we are currently on is chasing down whistleblowers for pointing out actually corrupt behavior from this network so so corrupt that they're actually. ABC is working with CBS. To chase down this guy who leaked the footage of a host telling the truth about how. ABC News Killed The Story About Jeffrey Epstein. Who by the way did not kill himself just sort of sidebar he flips the script entirely? We should learn this lesson all the time. Do not accept the left's premises you know. Even I was I was having a debate at in Nashville politic. On with Klay Aken I was supposed to be having a debate with the Democratic Rozan but it ended up becoming intimate with the moderator quote placate and classic and kept trying to do was get me to say the exact words that he wanted me to say bye bye which he would get me to accept his premises look bad so one thing he tried to get me to do is he. tried to push the same kind of hoax about the CHARLOTTESVILLE rally that the mainstream media pushed. which is that? Donald Trump defended neo-nazi white supremacists in Charlottesville. So he wanted me to say that There aren't there weren't very fine. People on both sides not very find people on both sides of the debate overtaking historical monuments but specifically the people people who chanted Jews will not replace us he wanted me to defend people chanting Jews will not replaces and I said Klay. What a stupid question? What a ridiculous question Nazis or bad? I think we all agree. But he couldn't leave it there because the question he was asking me was more or less. Hey Mike when did you stop beating your wife either anyway. You answer that question you look bad. This is what the left have to always does flip that script do not accept the premises. You don't owe them an answer. Don Jr. doesn't own answer on whistle blowers to the view on ABC ABC an answer on whistle blowers to us done. Junior doesn't answer on degrading American discourse to Joy Behar Joy Behar does an answer on degrading American discourse of course to us. Don't accept the premise. Don't accept this ridiculous idea that you know people you know people on the left some kind of answer on a little children. They were for a while they were saying that the trump administration was imprisoning children. which isn't true? The these parents and were sending their children across the border illegally in violation of the law and they were obviously. We're being detained and held in custody. You don't know an answer to the left on the left kills million babies a year. The left is now supporting injecting little children with hormones to stop them from going through puberty. You don't don't own answer to them. Don Jr. proof that I love it I think that's key lesson of the trump era. You can see how dishonest people are the website a political fact is actually now lying about video that we also with our own eyes. We'll get to that in a second. We'll get to what that means both for the administration. Twenty twenty and for the Democrats running for president. Because there's a lot of news on both ends. I gotTa thank our friends over at policy genius. It's very important of life insurance and you can't just rely on your employer provided life insurance especially if you work at the daily wire because I don't know Ben put all this little language. Enjoy my life insurance policy. That seems to give him a few ways out. 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So what political fact and organization that pretends that it exists to fact act check politicians not biased at all not partisan at all in reality. It's just a leftist website but pretend to be neutral they pretend to be objective they say by that. The statement the Democratic presidential candidates support giving illegal immigrants free healthcare at our expense is mostly false but but we have the video we have video from. NBC News from the Democratic presidential debate were the moderator asks. Do you support giving healthcare to illegal aliens and ended not just one not just to every single candidates hand one. Raise your hand. If govern government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants so every hand goes up there how does it affect justify their mostly false rating. They say that the moderator's moderator's question did not specify if the healthcare was free. Did it actually did she. She said. Would your government plan provide healthcare for illegal. Immigrants provide the word provide. It's giving it's it's bringing. It's giving it to them. It is actual even their BS. Trying Clinton sort of twisting. The words doesn't work. It's just an outline. That's from politic fact no credibility the view no credibility all of these mainstream outlets. Just I do not do command our respect and it makes you think a little differently about the president who's usually the object of their ire even in the administration the station. You know we had been told all the really smart people all the fancy people wear jackets and ties and live in the beltway. They said look trump might be terrible. I'm Dr even about right waivers. I'll say trump might be terrible but at least we have responsible people in the administration. Good serious responsible. People defending the rule of law defending ending our institutions and our norms. People like. I don't know rex. Tillerson former secretary of state people like John Kelly former chief of staff. They're the good guys. They're the defending our norms and our constitution. Trump is the one destroying it except now in a new book and a new interview. Nikki Haley is saying saying that it was actually guys like Tillerson and Kelly who were undermining our norms undermining our institutions undermining our Constitution Nikki. Haley writes in her new book. What Kellyanne Tillerson confided in me that when they resisted the president they were not being insubordinate? They were trying to save the country. Here's here's Nikki. Haley Secretary of State Tillerson went on to tell you the reason he resisted. The president's decisions was because if he didn't people would die. Do you memorialize that conversation. Conversation at definitely happened. It absolutely happened and instead of saying that to me they should have been saying that to the president. Not asking me to join them on there sidebar. Plan it should have been go. Tell the president what your differences are and quit if you don't like what he's doing but to undermine a president is really a very dangerous thing and it goes against the constitution and it goes against what the American people want and it was was offensive. That's right that's absolutely right and this is where I come. This is where I begin when I'm evaluating something that the president has done. I do not begin from the position. The trump is always right and I love. Everything is doing whether that's on policy whether that's an executive action whether that's on his behavior. That's actually not where I begin and I do have some policy problems with the the president for instance. I didn't like the first step act. I thought that was a mistake. I felt that healthcare could have been handled a little differently. So there are some policy differences however where I begin is from position of assuming the the best of the president and maybe the corruption of the mainstream media. Why do I assume that? Because that's exactly the opposite of the script that I'm being told by the mainstream media and I've just been fooled one too many times the media have told us that trump colluded with Russia. To overturn the two thousand sixteen election that he should be impeached for tax problems. That he's a racist and a biggest and a Nazi and a terrible person and they belying the whole time and so I just approach these questions not even with treating these guys differently. I won't even say that I treat I. I begin. Assuming trump is really great in the media really terrible I just begin with a little skepticism about those claims and I give a little bit of grace it to the president because it's the opposite of what we're getting and usually that appears to be the right way to go. You can even see this with the trump administration officials who have done. Well the ones who've done well the ones position themselves well or the ones who don't throw him under the bus like Nikki. Haley or in this case alike. Jeff sessions so jeff sessions former attorney general actually did sort of get done wrong by the president. I mean He. He was the subject of many mean tweets from the president. That could've one imagines been handled behind. Closed Doors Jeff. Sessions has not come out and criticize the president. Now he's running for his old Senate seat. What what's interesting about? This is not sessions wants to run for Senate. I thought for months that he would run for Senate. What's interesting about this is that sessions is running for Senate not against the president but on the president's record here is the openning ad of his would be campaign? The opening ad doesn't even talk totally about his record at talks about the president's record he he. Here's the ad and then talks about it to Tucker. Carlson left president. Trump's cabinet that I write a tell all book go on. CNN and attack the president. nope okay have. I set a crossword about president. Not One time. And I'll tell you one I. That would be desirable. I was there to serve his agenda. Jan Not mind second the president's doing a great job for America and Alabama and. He has my strong support. He has spear strong support. Do you have his strong support. Well I hope so. I think he will respect my work. I was there for the trump agenda every day I was in the Senate no doubt about that was the first Republican. First Senator to endorsing yes We pushed his immigration agenda. His trade agenda and begin to work to a more realistic listed foreign policy. I love this answer. The president has my support. We'll does do you have the president's support because I hope I do but it's not about me. That's the subtext of what Jeff sessions say. Because I hope I have the president's support but the my support for the president is not simply Lee some kind of calculation to get him to help me it's not a quid pro quo if you will. My support of the president is four for what the president is doing. Because not only is not about me. It's not even really about trump. It's about what trump is doing. This is an important lesson for all of us. When people want to sail the administration? Go after them on what they're doing. I mean go. We have a disagreement about something like the first step. Back for instance. But don't go after them for yourself. It's not about you. It's not look if you're serving the president as chief even staff like John. Kelly Secretary of state REX. Tillerson if you disagree with the President's agenda then don't take the job there's there's no shame in that if the president asks you to serve and you say look I disagree with what you WanNa do so not going to serve okay fair enough the worst thing you could do is go in there and then undermine your own boss and sabotage your own job. That's making it all about you and a lot of people are doing that these days in politics not just most people working the administration but senators and Congressmen and even pundits and rank and file voters. They're making it about them. What is this what? What is this commentary going to do for me or say about me? What is this time I served in the administration or do say for me me me? What does this vote route? Say about me and how will it reflect on me. It's not about you. That's so much of the problem that we're seeing in the country. It's not about you. We are living at a time of intense political narcissism egotism and pride. We have a whole month that celebrates bride we. I have a whole Internet structure now than exists to gratify each of us individually to accumulate likes to accumulate views to sort of worship at the altar of the self each and every one of us is the two thousand six time person of the year because that year it was a you and we need to push back against this and say hold on. I'm willing to subdue and restrain my ego and even my own desires to accomplish accomplish something outside myself to accomplish something for the country that was the jeff sessions argument. That's the Jeff sessions argument going into the Senate race and I think that's absolutely absolutely terrific. Now it's not just conservatives. It's not just wishful thinking. I think that is saying that that trump's is looking pretty good compared to his critics. Moi's aware of that. I understand look. I'm a conservative. I'M A. I'm a Republican I. I don't want to just get trapped in a a little bubble but I don't think it's just us. I don't think it's just us who thinks trump is looking good right now. I think the Democrats are terrified. The trump is looking good right now. That's why even in a field that had over twenty candidates or twenty five candidates. There are more Democratic candidates about to jump in the race because they do not believe that any of those jokers jokers on the stage. We're going to beat. Donald Trump next November we will get into which candidates are running and which eternal candidate still will not be able to give it up. I'm talking about the person who totally didn't kill Jeffrey Epstein or I'm just because he killed himself so I'm obviously I'm not did he. Not Maybe maybe he didn't kill himself. Well we'll get to all of that in a second but I I've got to say about facebook and Youtube head on over to the daily Wire Dot Com ten bucks a month hundred dollars for an annual membership. 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Obviously the Democrats want you know in in two thousand Nineteen Intersectional Democrats Populism Socialism. Obviously with the Democrats are clamoring for is one of the richest men in the world billionaire from New York. Michael Bloomberg Mark Mike Bloomberg has been signaling. Not just for weeks and months years that he wants to run for president he's been signaling that he wants to run for president since the the year two thousand and he's never quite done it. Why not because Mike Bloomberg who look I lived in New York on Mike Bloomberg was mayor? Mike Bloomberg ran for mayor of New York as a Republican. No one really thought he was a republican but he figured he'd have the easiest time running as a republican he runs he wins he then quickly became an independent then eventually he registers as a Democrat. So what are my Bloomberg's Politics Mike. Bloomberg is what what it is often referred to as the fiscal conservative social liberal. And I think even those terms or a little silly what is it to be a fiscal conservative conservative. The History of conservative philosophy encompasses many economic ideas. What does it mean to be a social liberal would it basically means? Is that Mike Bloomberg Burgas Greedy Democrat. That's what it means to be a fiscal conservative. Social Liberal. It means I want to redefine marriage. I want to have policies that kill babies on support. Legal infanticide I want people to do whatever they want. I don't care that much about the culture doesn't interest frisked me. I've got my pantyhose up here. I can live whatever life I want and you Ruffians on the ground can fend for yourselves but at the very least I want to keep more the money greedy Democrats. That's what it is and this is not a popular position if you live on the coasts if you ever go to two elite institutions if you ever go around those nice cocktail parties in Washington. DC or New York or San Francisco or in Los Angeles. You will very often hear people say. Oh Gosh Look I. We need to get over this abortion stuff. We need to legalize abortion. Forget about any laws. Laws that in any way touch upon what could reasonably be construed as traditional morality but look I'm reasonable. I just want to lower taxes Texas. If you could have a candidate who wanted to lower taxes and liberalize all of our social policy you would win the whole country you'd get ninety percent of the vote this the coastal people think this is what all the graduates of fancy colleges thing and they're completely wrong. They're completely wrong because there have been polls about this. The the people who identifies fiscal conservative social liberal the people who are Mike Bloomberg in their politics constitute about four and a half percent of the voting population four and a half percent. Nobody nobody wants that and the fancy people on the coast. Who graduated from Harvard? Don't understand how that's possible. The reason That they they say the reason that people don't identifies fiscal conservatives social liberals is they're just not educated enough. No that's not the problem. The reason they people don't identify as fiscal conservatives and social liberals is it doesn't make any sense conservative thought has an internal logic to if you defend tradition if you defend our institutions if you defend property rights in the United States if you defend these things they all sort of go together on the flip side if you are a radical if you hate our institutions if you hate our system of government if you hate our system of property rights if you think it's all rotten to the core there is a sort of internal coherence of leftism. What does not make sense? is taking the simplest most tempting most alluring and most self-serving courts of each and smashing them together and say well. I'm a complete degenerate on morality but I'm also greedy. Let's put those two that doesn't make sense. It's a luring and it's attractive but it doesn't make any sense. Which is why I'm still skeptical? That Bloomberg will actually throw his hat in the race. Not because he doesn't want it not even because he's cowardly but because he's got very we're good pollsters. He sees the numbers and it's probably not going to work out very well for him. I mean just to give you an example of the kind of more blindness of people like Mike Bloomberg. Listen to an interview. He he gave just just this year. I believe with Margaret Hoover of The new version of firing line in which Mike Bloomberg explicitly defense the Communist government of China states currently accounts for about fifteen percent of global greenhouse gas emissions China accounts for roughly roughly thirty percent of greenhouse gas emissions. How do we even have we get to net zero? And we're doing our part. How do you account? And how do you get India. And the other countries China is doing a lot India's doing some China is doing. Yes there's still building a bunch of coal fired power. The plants burning coal. Yes they are but they are now moving plants away from the cities. The Communist Party wants to stay in power in China and they listen to the public and the public says. I can't breathe the air shaping not a dictator. He has to satisfy his constituents. or He's not gonNA survive. Here's a constituency to answer to vote. He doesn't have democracy. He comes to his advises prices gabled revolution you're not going to have a revolution. Nobody Solano government survives without the will of the majority of its people. What so when Mike Bloomberg says look the dictator of China? He's not really a dictator. He's accountable to his people Margaret. Hoover says how is he accountable. He doesn't have any elections he. He doesn't have any serious democratic mechanisms. So are you saying that. The only way he's accountable because there will be a revolution and then Bloomberg admits he says. Oh there's not going to be revolution oh no. It's got an iron fist. No way or you're GONNA get a revolution in China so then he's a dictator but Mike Bloomberg doesn't want as a dictator because all Mike Bloomberg is concerned concerned with discussion is that we keep that economic growth going we keep boosting their GDP and we keep getting those cheap Chinese goods and we keep getting China to by up our debt and we keep getting China to be part of this kind of liberal vision of one world market with ever increasing global governance earnings were national ties. Bonds of loyalty don't really exist at all and countries don't stand for anything other than the relentless pursuit of economic growth. By the way I love economic growth. I think it's a great rape thing I think Irving Kristol was largely right. When he said that the three pillars of modern conservatism? And it's ironic. Because people who use the term neo conservatism. Urbanism as a disparaging insult are usually defining conservatism along the same lines. As the neoconservative Irving Kristol Irving Kristol said the three pillars or religion religion economic growth and nationalism and what Mike Bloomberg is saying is yeah forget that religious stuff. Forget that nationalist stuff forget all that kind of cultural and social stuff. It's just about economic growth. Look if you have enough economic growth. The dictators will be accountable to the people. This was the line. We were told for decades and then Margaret Hoover asked the question. Wait doesn't look like he's accountable to the people and Bloomberg more or less yogis now really that accountable but look at the economic growth. That is not going to sell. It's not gonNA play in Peoria not because the voters are so uneducated but because worldview doesn't make sense and because it is repugnant. Now speaking of repugnance we might have another candidate in the race our favorite perennial candidate. Who spent a lot of time in Saint Petersburg when she felt it was time for a change? Hillary Clinton was speaking at a New York Times event. And it's a live event and she's asked if she's running again and of course she can't say no because she's trying to figure out the easiest assist way to jump back into this race question. What would it take you to run? I'm sorry to run to run. You know I I have always been a very very slow runner and you know I. I am embarrassingly slow. I've tried to run races and and I am so far behind that I start to walk acting like that was what the plan was all the time so I don't know that I'm going to take competitive running right now but I think you're asking about something else aren't you. There's been some teasing that. Maybe maybe you're sitting in the in the off to the wings here waiting for some moment. Oh look I think I would have been really good president. I think I could have been a very. You could have done a really good job. I think the last election was deeply flawed and there were so many unprecedented sedated problems in that election that it's almost hard to make sense of but you know I'm out here traveling around. That was my daughter and she's still nursing her newest baby. So we've got our. I've got my grandson with me and life was pretty good. Wife is pretty good. And I'm totally now thinking about running for president or anything. That's why keep sending my senior adviser on television to float the idea that I could run for president. She's so bad at. This reminds me when and when her answer on this. Are you running what. What like running like like running a race high reminds me of that time? She was asked why she wiped her email server when the federal government was asking for those records and she just totally bleach bidded the thing and she gave the same answer where she was trying to be cute and it totally fell flat. That's that's all I can say I'm not I don't I have no idea that's why we turned it over. We're charging you were the official assurance. Did you deserve what might with a cloth or something no no. I don't know how it works. Digitally at all. I do not have any and I know you WanNa make a point and I can just repeat what I have said. What what did we wipe away? What were the cloth or something? Humping Homina I don't know I don't know nothing I don't know Nothing Hillary Clinton's answer same thing on running because she does want to run again. The point I saw in all of this though is obviously the Democrats. Let's feel that the field is weak. Even the field has just about every candidate out there. What is it twenty twenty-five candidates when they began they feel that it's week and for all they're bluster about impeachment trump's gonna go and she's dead man walking they don't think that and that's why other candidates are thinking about getting into this race? They think that Joe Biden is totally weak. Front runner is probably not going to get the nomination. They think Liz Warren way too radical to win a general election. They feel the same thing about Bernie. Plus you with Bernie also have the age issue. They I think that he's falling apart. And then on the maybe more substantive matter the ethical matter of the norms and the trust and our institutions. Let's not forget Hillary Clinton before the two thousand sixteen election said that people accept the results of elections or a threat to our democracy. Meanwhile now we're three years after the election and in that very same clip. She's not accept the results of that election. She says there were so many problems with it. It was unprecedented it. It boggles the mind. What happened the implication here being that it was an illegitimate election? And she wants a Redo. That's what they want. And that's what the president is up against and that's the stakes of the election. That's the the stakes of the political moment. That we're in the answer to this is not to gloss over all the flaws of our own side. Certainly shouldn't do that. But we should be willing to see with the clarity. The absolute rank corruption and desiccation that. We're up against and then we have to make a choice and the choice to me. Seems pretty clear and and choice is not just a political choice. It can be a romantic choice as well as my favorite story out. Today there is a new study out by the dating APP. lumine lament which shows that conservatives are much better at dating then liberals. This company found that right-wingers are more direct than their left wing counterparts. You know we're not that kind of mealy-mouth Saying one thing and meaning another and slippery and unctuous and oily. We're just we tell people what we think. That's what gets us in trouble on campus and in our jobs and television and in politics the company found that they clearly state conservatives clearly state two potential lovers lovers what they're looking for in terms of life and romance and that they also value family and friendships more highly than liberals do and they have a smaller and more intimate group Group of friends they're closer whereas liberals tend to thrive and larger social groups where they don't really know anybody conservatives have friends and intimates and liberals have acquaintances the liberals the advantage they found for the Liberals in the study is that liberals are more carefree and more fun loving than conservatives so you know when liberals do get a date get it gets a little bit weird or I guess but for the Conservatives they care much more about these relationships they're more direct. Why is this it seems to me? It's the same issue we keep going back to and going back to conservatives that are best in our worldview in our philosophy look away from ourselves we look at the world what we find great. Aw in the world you know free if it was Chesterton Lewis who said that. We're I think Chesterton. Who said were were dying? Our culture is is in trouble not from lack of wonders but from lack of wonder there's so many wonders in the world. People are so beautiful so interesting and wonderful to talk to for people but what we're suffering from a lack of curiosity lack of awe from ourselves to even be interested in those other people. It's it's the same kind of the sexual revolution you know if you look at the consequences of the sexual revolution ubiquitous high speed and pornography hookup. Culture are all of the hookup. Culture is ubiquitous now too and many people have experienced that especially in college. But when you look at the consequences of that it's it's all essentially about the self. It's about me widespread abortion on demand. Abortion itself is all about you me me me at no regard whatsoever for the person who was killed as a result of this. All of it The consequences of this for children awful case in Texas where the mother wants wants to inject her son with hormones and block them from going through puberty because she really wants him to be a daughter. It's all about the self and that is corrosive. It makes people unhappy and makes them bad dating partners and it's why conservatives do better in the dating scene but it turns out that's not the last thing they discover what we've also discovered is that conservatives are hotter than liberals science proves it according to these studies a person's looks apparently affect their politics and beautiful people lean gene more toward conservative beliefs according to a study published by two professors in the Midwest. If you control for socioeconomic status you find that more attractive individuals vigils are more likely to report higher levels of political efficacy identifies conservative and identifies Republicans. This makes sense to. It's not just a joke. kind of joke about it a little bit. Sometimes that conservatives are hotter than liberals but it does make sense because conservatives tend to be more at peace in the world not that they're always happier but they're more at peace yes they are more understanding of reality and the reality of suffering and the broken this of human nature and we're not constantly chasing utopias and we're not constantly falling apart and focusing on or suffering and on ourselves as the center of the universe because we know that isn't true. Were more at peace in the world and I'm not surprised. Surprised that people who have some physical advantages also are Are More at peace as well just a little nugget to Tuck away in their next time. You're arguing with your left-wing friends before we go I have to I have to thank a couple of heroes. One is a cultural hero a kid on MSNBC who was asked why support trump and he gave the best answer I've ever heard for the president in two thousand sixteen years importers him so much. What posse out say mainly just the no nonsense holidays and spent loosens? Jeffrey didn't kill himself. Go back to tell me a little bit about the Senate race. I noticed on here. What are you looking nine? Yeah so what are you support trump. I just think the policies are really good especially with Jeffrey Epstein. Kill himself total cultural hero. well-done also we have to thank our very literal heroes today Our veterans We should thank veterans every day but at least we have a day for this. The day originally was armistice day the eleventh hour the Eleventh Day of the eleventh month of nineteen eighteen and then this became in nineteen fifty four Veterans Day. There is some confusion people. Treat Memorial Day and Veterans Day is the same holidays. Today's they're not memorial. Day is for our servicemen. Who have fallen in May ultimately sacrifice veterans days for the veterans that we see all around us? Unfortunately oh I think something like just one percent of Americans have any connection really to the military serve in the military and so it's harder and harder to find them but when you do find them today thank them for their service. Thank them for defending this wonderful country that we have keeping us all safe and defending the liberties that we all enjoy. I certainly thank all of the veterans who listen to this show. That's our show. Michael Michael Knowles. Show see tomorrow if you enjoyed this episode. And frankly even if you didn't don't forget to subscribe and if you want to help spread the word please give us a five star review and tell your friends to subscribe five. We're available on Apple podcasts. spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts. 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The Media Has Abandoned the Country, Again (Ep 1198)

The Dan Bongino Show

1:02:35 hr | 8 months ago

The Media Has Abandoned the Country, Again (Ep 1198)

"Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show. That's not immune to the facts with your host. Dan Bongino boatloads of emails regarding yesterday's show recovered corona virus breaking news on that tons of emails on that quickly. You want to get to that. The left can't do math humiliated themselves again on MSNBC. I got that and seriously I like to get the hyperbolic language drives me crazy. But let's just say revelatory new information on the whole spy gate thing that you have maybe heard from the media or maybe not. Don't go anywhere a loaded. Friday show today show sponsored by express. Vpn You have the right to privacy protected now express VPN dot com slash Bongino. Welcome the Dan. Bongino show producer. Joe How are you today? Fine Sir and some doing great heroes mandatory Friday intro for Friday's yeah one of these going to put together a compilation of your best folks again loaded show. Let me get right to today. Show to you by. But he's at policy genius if there's one thing human beings aren't great at its predicting the future come on. We all know that. Just take a look around no amount of crystal balls fortune. Cookies are t leaves could predict the world. We're living in right now. Unpredictability is what keeps life interesting however the trick is to enjoy the ride without worrying about. What's around the corner? How do we do that? We insure ourselves against these problems. And one way to get the right life insurance. That's right. That's where buddies at policy genius can help policy genius makes finding the right life insurance breeze just minutes you can compare quotes from the top insurers to find your best price you could save fifteen hundred dollars or more a year by using policy jeans to compare life insurance policies. Once you apply. The Palestinians team handles all the paperwork and red tape for free for free and policies doesn't make life insurance easy they can help you find the right home auto and disability insurance too so if you haven't found a play by play breakdown of the future inside of crystal ball or a cookie that's okay be prepared for anything with life insurance. It's just a few minutes. You can find your best price and apply policy genius DOT COM super easy to use folks policy genius. We always get the future wrong. Unfortunately you better get life insurance. Policies DOT com. All right here. We go so I wanNA start with science Friday on a bit of a lighter note on Friday. Msnbc LADIES AND GENTLEMEN KEEP IN MIND MSNBC and the liberal lunatics over there and the New York Times and the liberal lunatics over there. These are the people who claim to be smarter than the salt. They do. They do it all the time. It's obvious we're the dumb ones where the great unwashed remember the Rick Wilson thing on CNN which if into reading how trump supporters and Republicans were generally the Conservatives. Were so stupid. Where a bunch of rubes? I think we've been we've been called RUBES deplorables. What else Joe? Irredeemable forgive me for males Indiana Selley. Dopey stupid we've been called. Every where the Dummies. The media people. Most of whom have never had real jobs. Never they've never had an ounce or a grain of sand or dirt underneath their fingernails ever have never produced a radio show have never acted as a carpenter and and sheet rock. The wall or built a table have never worked in a factory that produces gavels or sound machines or phones or anything like that. They're the smart ones where the stupid ones right. And it's rare all the dumb rules right now showing you again. How this is yeah. One hundred percent one hundred eighty degrees back how the media people believe me. I've dealt with them. I'm telling you not all. I don't want to stereotype everyone. There are some bright people out there and do good work. I'm telling you in my experience in the cable news ecosystem in my experience at other networks other than the one. I'm working at now and in my experience dealing with printing editorial writers ladies and Gentlemen. I'm kidding you not as the judge by CLASS OF PEOPLE. There are some of the dumbest people ever meet. I'm not it's a fact. They are really this dumb. Where am I going with? This here is a quick clip on Brian. Williams. I'm Brian Williams. He'd been Jupiter he's fought in world wars. Remember way. The Storyteller Brian Williams Brian Williams on with a reporter from the New York Times Mary. Gay these are the smart people. I want you to pay particular attention to their math year. They're talking about how much money Michael Bloomberg spent in the election and the equivalent of. How much boomer could've given to every American? Listen to the math. Try NOT TO CRACK UP IN ABSOLUTE HILARITY. Is You listen to this. Stupidity play this cut but UCS possibility if he wants to spend a billion bucks beating this guy he could do. Absolutely somebody tweeted recently that Actually with the money he spent could've given every American million dollars. Let's put it up. Ask Green it when I read it tonight. On social media it kind of all became clear Bloomberg spent five hundred million on ads. Us POPULATION THREE HUNDRED. Twenty seven million Don't tell us if you're ahead of us on the math. He could have given each American one million dollars and I've had lunch money. Leftover it's an incredible way of putting. It's an incredible way of putting it. It's true it's disturbing it. Does it does suggest you know what we're talking about here. Which is there. There's too much money in politics though that happened not mess that is not doctored clip. That actually have these are member. Where the deplorable irredeemable doping so just to be clear. Michael Bloomberg spent five hundred million dollars on his race and the reporter and Brian Williams and the editorial and they bookers and the staff at MSNBC allowed this on the air are suggesting that Michael Bloomberg's five hundred million with that same amount of money he could give three hundred and twenty seven million Americans a million dollars each. Where's the fish and the loaf of breads? Yeah I do. Are we missing? Something ladies. Gentlemen what all right. I don't WanNA seriously 'cause I'M GONNA lose my say. Just WanNa go back to that movie seven days in a tabby which I really loved and critics always paying and there's a great scene from that movie you have to see it's about a dreadful situation. It's a true story. Hostages were taken by these revolutionaries and they were taken to an airport and then tabby and held the Israelis got them out with some some casualties in the process. But having said that there's a scene where one of the pilots taken hostage by these revolutionaries basically losers has to fix some plumbing and the place to be in hell because nobody can use the bathroom so the pilot fixes the plumbing and he's talking to the revolutionary at one point. He looks up at him in disdain. For this loser you know. Hippie revolutionary terrorists zero and he says to one hundred revolutionaries worth one plumber one thousand media revolutionaries are worth one irredeemable deplorable redeem. Oh I know you I will take one. Irredeemable deplorable any day for ten thousand of these media. Losers what a bunch of morons okay. One quick note I was on last night on Hannity show. I got a lot of feedback about my appearance. I was asked to number things I made the point I about Florida Florida primaries coming up. Pay Very close attention. It's in mid March. Pay Very close attention. Why I'm afraid at the point. Didn't get across policy that it did but I didn't. I'm not sure. And quick soundbite. Psychotic cross. Here's why the Florida Primary Matters Florida's swing state obviously Florida's presidential primary is separate from all of its other primaries meaning. The congressional candidates stay delegate candidates. They are on a separate ballot later in the year. They are not on the mid March primary in Florida. I got my ballot in the mail. It was only because I'm a registered Republican Donald Trump and his loser opponents. That's it basically. There's no real tactical reason I mean. Donald TRUMP'S GONNA win. I told you better go out and do it one. It's your civic duty but still it sends a message. I'm simply suggesting to you that if the Republicans in a basically uncontested. Gop Primary where. Nobody else is on the ballot. Your congressional friend you vote for. Isn't there the state delegate you? He's not there there on the later ballot if Florida Floridians and please. I'm begging you to do it. Show up in droves in mid March to vote for president trump for no other reason. He's GonNa win other than they love. This guy no reason they just doing it because it's the right thing to do an export to and they do it numbers even remotely comparable to the Democrats who were in a hot contested. Primary right now Biden Sanders. Watch those numbers. They will portend big big huge galactic level problems for the Democrats. If those numbers are even close there's one other point I made to and I want to be consistent now to be fair because I don't lie to my audience. I did not hear Sean Question. Right Sean. Hannity asked me what I thought. The chances of basically Donald Trump Biden race. What PRESIDENT TRUMP SPRINT? I didn't hear it that way. I thought he was asking me. What Bernie's chances workings Biden long and short of it is. It doesn't matter. I said fifty fifty. It doesn't Matter Because Ladies Gentlemen I'm not GonNa say otherwise even if I dig. President trump is gonNA row Joe Biden. I'm not going to put that out of my show because it does nobody any good. I can't predict the future number one and number two. I don't want anybody believing. Under any circumstances that this race is in the bag. Biden's week sanders is weak. I know it. I think president trump is GONNA win. I'm I I'm a big supporter. The president obviously and a lot of what he's done conservatism. We can still do more but I am never going to put out on the air. It's a route ninety ten. I'm not doing it. Sorry some people got mad at me the email me how can you say? President trump is a fifty fifty chance even though I misconstrued the question. I still don't regret saying that because I am not going to be the guy responsible for voter apathy on our side. I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm the one begging you to go out and vote in Florida. Even though there's really no re- trump's GonNa win do it anyway. Fifty fifty it. That's it I'm sticking to it. Sorry that's my story and I'm sticking to it no apathy. I'm not making the mistake. We made all right moving on. I got a lot to get this spy gate so I promise you is going to blow your mind today. So it's GonNa take me a while. So gimme a second to get that all right. I got a lot of emails on yesterday's show. The emails were this. I was talking about the corona virus and and how a lot of people don't get vaccinated against the flu. Despite the fact they know at times it can be a deadly virus and at times of human history is turned into a pandemic. And that my point. I was trying to make which I got a crush. Which a lot of you got I want but but the emails were interesting and I read them and they really impacted me. What I was trying to say is I think the response to Corona. We have not effectively price. The risk of it and I said people going to you can't put value or cost on human life. Ladies and gentlemen people do it all the time to themselves. I'm not going to relitigate yesterday's show. I'm just suggesting to you that people fly planes do dangerous things all the time because they put a value on life is more valuable for them to get California quicker from Florida rather than driving or walking because they say to themselves. Well I risked it out and I need to get there and I deem the risk to be low. I'm suggesting to you that I don't think we've appropriately factored in the risk of corona and. I think the media has over hyped the risk. The risk is not zero. It's significant if you're elderly. It can be very deadly guy put on my facebook yesterday. Some fascinating numbers. There's no question about that. I'm suggesting use the risk grade enough to wipe out the stock market to stop international travel. I don't think so. I don't think so now. Some of the emails from people were saying well. I don't get vaccinated your arguments. No good because I don't get vaccinated against the flu. 'cause I don't believe in vaccines that's fine. I do and you're making my point not yours. Yeah your point is I. Don't believe in vaccines. I think they're risky. I'm not getting a flu vaccine because I would rather get the flu vaccine. That's what you said in your email. I got tons of emails like this fine. You have a price. The risk on what you think is information that is valid. I get the flu shot. Every year. I used different information. That is perfectly okay. I read your emails. But you're making my point not yours. My point was that you had the information you evaluated. The risk vaccine flew back and made a decision. We don't have that information yet about corona and I did the information we do have may not be exactly accurate. That was my only point all right moving on by the way quick note. Cnbc huge job numbers. Showing you again. I think the impact of the economy is being overstated here. The risk to the economy. Look at these numbers. Cnbc blowout job numbers job. Growth smashes expectations for February employment falls back to three point. Five percent the job numbers for February. Ladies and Gentlemen. Two hundred seventy three thousand jobs. That is a you. Shoot number good job. American ENTREPRENEURS WORKERS EMPLOYEES. Good for all of you. That's why I buy the dips every time. I can't admit your financial adviser I'm just telling you. I believe in the power of the American worker the American citizen. I'm on the right side of every time. Stock Market Dips. Don't tell me your stocks cheap because I'll buy they'll do it again. Not a financial advice. Show you do your thing. Everybody has a different level risk. I'm just saying I don't this. Nothing's going to stop this economy. Nothing not with unless Bernie Sanders Joe Biden. Then it will stop all right. Let me just get to the second because this stuff is going to be really super intense. Some came out yesterday. Hat Tip Undercover Huber. 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The Pfizer Court specifically Joe in the larger story here is what is accepting the FBI's word on the dossier and allowing them to spy on the trump team when it would have been pretty easy to figure out that That's the big fail but believe it or not. The shortcomings continue. Let's go to these quick stories. You so number one jerry. Dunleavy of Washington. Examiner says they you know they were looking at some of these court filings and they noticed that one of the judge is about bows Berg. Forgive me from Saint. His name wrong that they were looking at some of these paperwork in a Pfizer court headlines Washington Examiner Jerry Dunleavy. Five court mistakenly says fusion. Gps WAS DIGGING UP DIRT ON HILLARY CLINTON NOT TRUMP. Kind of a big mistake folks. Now listen could it have been a clerical error again? I'm like Chuck Schumer. We don't threaten people on this show. I'm willing to give. Maybe I don't even know how much of a passable and to give anybody anymore with this but let me get this straight. The court documents say fusion. Gps wasn't targeted trump. But Hillary Clinton kind of a big error. Now they fixed it. Don't want to spend too much time on. That could have been clerical. Fine kind of a big mistake though. Yeah like a one eighty mistake. Yeah moving on big huge mistake number two. I believe yesterday. Judge Reggie Walton Washington examiner piece. I don't know what this is about now. I have theories. I'M GONNA keep to myself because I do. Facts data to like improve things. I don't throw out random theories here if I have the evidence to back it up. I hope you understand that on. My show requires a little bit of patience. But that's okay another ridiculous story. Jerry Dunleavy Washington examiner all be in the show notes today at Bongino Dot Com Bongino dot com slash newsletter. If you'd like to get the show notes e mail to you every morning judge questions attorney general bars credibility in handling the muller report and May make more public way. Why from the Jerry Dunleavy piece? What is bill bar said about the Mullahs report? Which found no evidence of collusion whatsoever and no evidence of obstruction? Either no evidence of what did bar say that the judge Reggie Walton doesn't agree with. Let's go to the peace because this is going to tie into what I think is really going on behind the scenes. You'RE NOT GONNA want to go anywhere. So quote Attorney General Bar told Congress on March twenty four th Muller's investigation quote did not find the trump campaign or anyone associated with the conspired or coordinated with Russia. Its efforts to influence the election. That is in fact true folks. Nobody disputes that. The Attorney General also said Muller quote did not draw any conclusion one way or the other whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. That is in fact. True to Muller sent a letter March twenty seven claiming bars letter did not fully captured the context nature and substance of his investigative work and conclusions. This is all we can see the report. We know what was in the report. We know there was no evidence. We know that Muller himself has on the obstruction issue stated to people on the phone. Bill Barr and others that they hadn't come to a conclusion obstruction. Not because there was no legal case to make for it and it had nothing to do with anything other than the fact that they could not make a legal case for obstruction. Simple as that. Why is Judge Reggie Walton inserting himself in this? So I get more on that. I'll tell you more but having said that the courts keep failing us what is really going on. What is the swampers? What are they terrified about? Well as many of you know if you've been listening to the show recently the FBI just released a cachet of three. Oh in other words. Twos reports summaries of interviews. They've conducted with subjects in the spy. Gate Case Ladies and gentlemen. The information in here is absolutely damning now. Paula has a montage because this came out yesterday of the media coverage is there was a bombshell. Dropped him one of the three or to give massive hat tip again to add John. W Huber on twitter and techno fog as well. Who have been reading through these things and putting out if you're not following missing okay. There was a bombshell drop. About the trump tower meeting which has been one of the core criticisms of the spy gate conspirators. Donald trump junior met with the Russians trump tower this was evidence of collusion obstruction. Everything a bombshell was dropped. Let's play the montage of the mainstream media thankfully covering this and exposing the truth once and for all going Paula Paula. Come on you missing but no less than you play. The time is there is no montage even always confused. I didn't teach them up before the show because I don't know video for that because there is no video Paulo is kind enough. Youtube dot conflicts plunging. If you'd like to watch the show to put a visual of crickets on the screen. Because that's all you got was crickets. Thank you Mr Sound Jerry semi an email sound Jenner. Who guys sent me this. It's actually pretty good. There is no media montage. You haven't heard about this matter of fact if you're missing my show today and not following undercover Huber and techno fog and others Jeff Carlson. Who's been great on this Jerry? Dunleavy and others chuck you missed this whole story so you may say all right. We'll get to it their daddy you. What should they be reporting on that? They're not so I'm going to walk you through this slow. They will not let this collusion hoax. Go none of them. They will not let it go. Let's go to number one. Fbi three or twos are coming out and they are devastating. So I'm gonNA walk you through. This here is a photo that the F. B. I. Three Oh two they came out. Forgive me I should get put. They put the story had a front. I know sometimes they can be a little bit circuitous but I wanNa make sure I set it up. Is they knew he was terrific? They interviewed one of the participants in the June twenty six meeting with Donald Trump. Junior trump tower remember that Russians met with Don Jr. for dirt on Hillary. Everybody remembers that they interviewed one of the participants. And the notes of that. Fbi interview had just come out recently and they are devastating. But before I get to the notes I want to show you. What Muller new early about this meeting and still continue to do anyway because Muller had zero interest in getting to the truth hence the spin right now I believe coming out of the courts and the left wing media about the molar. Let's go to headline number one. This is the New York. Times and their bombshell report from July. Eighth of two thousand seventeen pay very close attention to the dates. This is the New York Times reporting on that. Infamous trump tower meeting between DON Jr. Paul Manafort Jared Kushner and the Russians were involved in collusion according to the left this narrative. It's all you need is the date. We don't need anything else headline New York. Times trump teammate. With lawyer linked to Kremlin who during campaign matt a Puzo? Adam Goldman. Maria's again Joe? Remember the name Captain Spy Gate Plotter and Adam Goldman and Joe Beck Adam Goldman's on everyone of these stories. July eighth two thousand seventeen. Remember the date. Remember the media here is trying to tell you not of the story but a story so on July eighth of two thousand seventeen. Somebody leaks to spy gate plotter. Adam Goldman. He's involved in all of this skull and he gets all the scoops right. Somebody leaks to Goldman. Hey Don Jr. remember this is two thousand seventeen. The trump tower meeting is in two thousand sixteen a year earlier. Somebody leaks to them at the New York Times. Hey Don Jr. met with Kremlin link attorneys. The story runs on July eighth. What are they trying to get out ahead of? Somebody must get wind. Who's leaking this story to the New York Times that there's a plan in place to interview the actual participants follow me Referee Joe. I need you Paul. I need you right now to hanging with you. Somebody gets wind that they're planning to interview the FBI the participants in that meeting and the people who get wind of it whether it's Intel community at the top unsafe community that Brennan the Brennan nuts at the top. Somebody gets wind of that and they know because the meetings happened a year ago. Because I'm telling you. The meetings of setup remember the Russians participating in the trump tower meeting in two thousand sixteen June of two thousand sixteen. We Don Jr. are connected to fusion. Gps and Hillary Clinton the meetings the setup man to foster the Russian collusion. Have absolutely sure of it. You listen to the rogue show if you think otherwise. It's a setup who did the setup. That's a story for another show but it was. Let's just leave it at the spy. Gate plotters and people involved with this international Intel Cabal working to take down trump. Okay but the people involved in the setup no nothing happens in the meeting because nothing does happen in the meeting because Don Jr. and Paul manafort right away realize this thing is nonsense. They're on their phones. And they're sending each other basically texts. Get us out of this stupid meeting. Nothing happens but that's the story. The liberal media wants you to know as we can see from the headline from the New York Times on July eighth leaks. That Don Jr. met with Kremlin guy so here. We go the media narrative starts. Why did it start? Because what are they getting in front of what happens just four days later well now that we have the FBI? Three O? Two's of the notes of the interviews. They conducted just four days later. They interviewed a translator at the meeting. A guy by the name of forgive me from saying they mom so macho north. I probably really screwed that up. But that's okay you get the point. Four days later they interview. These are from undercover. Huber's twitter feed. Look at some of the notes Caesar some of his highlights as well so the interview the translator at the meeting the liberals us this is all about collusion these Russian show up to collude with DON Jr. Look at the date show interview was seven twelve. Twenty seventeen wow four days after the New York Times Story. Oh boy on a totally so much. North data birth redacted telephone number redacted was at his residence located here. And if you buy special agent after being advised that the identity interviewing agency in the nature of the interview so Macho ornoff provided the following information so much more say Joe. Clearly the translator at this meeting with Don Jr. clearly because we've been hearing forever now from Liberal Lunatics Jason Johnson David from member. I debated these nuts at politic on where they lost their minds because they had no basic grasp the case they've been telling US forever. This meeting this was it. Joe This is where the collusion started. No surely Samachar. Who is the translator at that meeting? This guy definitely told the FBI. There was a bunch of collusion. Hillary Clinton stuff going on. Because we've been told this from the media Adam. Goldman was Tina subjects. Four days before this interview somebody leaked it to get out of this man. Well what Buddy? So much she's. Am say well. Let's see let's go to take away number two clearly. There's evidence of collusion here. We've only been told this forever. So our buddy matured off said his name. Two hundred now could not speak for other occasions but said there was wait. No discussion about the twenty sixteen United States Presidential Election Paula. My reading this. You have better eyesight to me. Actually you don't but you're closer to screen. There was no discussion of the election. Joe This is this can't be or collusion either. What's going on between the Russian government? That trump campaigned come on guys. This can't possibly be only. We've only been told for three years. That the trump tower meeting where it all went down the cookies cookie jar late. Don Junior was looking for dirt on Hillary. You've been told that right Motley. Yeah that's at least the east coast serve a minimum. Can't bet you may have to queue up a triple. They may keep the monthly keeper. Butler Butler a little bit. Like I liked how you keep it back a little bit I liked. I liked that I liked that. On your part you keep it in the in the bullpen. Bring into right so this guy. Some Chernoff says there was no discussion at that meeting about collusion or the election. Wow that's kinda strange. It gets better. Let's go to take away number two from the FBI's notes there no On their interview. this is crazy time. Here this is. There was no smoking gun. According to some mature enough there was not a discussion about dirt. On Hillary. Some mature enough did not think Hillary Clinton was mentioned by name at the meeting. Some mature enough had not heard vessel guy say anything about having dirt on Hillary vessel sky. Didn't offer any materials during the meeting and no papers were exchanged. Additionally there was no follow up to the meeting that saw mature of knows about Mike. Flynn part to JEEZ LOUISE HOLY COW folks the media coverage on this has been tremendously right. Yeah three all right. You've seen the headlines You've seen them in the majority. Oh you've seen but you might as you push the media montage breaking don trump. Junior meeting had nothing to do. With Hillary Clinton the Russians are collusion. You've seen those headlines. Right and Tower. You see them. There might idea go play. They were very good awesome. The Creek is very good. There's the media headline you've heard all of this right. I can't if you're not watching the show or covering those excellent reports on twitter. You've missed all of this now before I get to even more mature enough. Said which is even more devastating. And what astonishingly? Muller did afterwards. You may be asking a question right now. You may be saying you suggest you may not be but I'm GONNA question myself on your behalf. You may say. This is a little contradictory. You're suggesting the June twenty sixteen meeting with Donald Trump junior and manafort at trump tower with these Russians was the setup but if it was a setup why did these Russians connected to Hillary and fusion. Gps that team. Why did they not say anything about Hillary? You get with this in other words if you're trying to set the trump team up by pushing these Russians to meet with Don Jr. Because you know later you're going to say look they colluded with these Russians. Then they would have to mention something about Hillary to further the narrative. Why would they not mention anything? Good question I have the answer for you and I'm I'm sure of it Because folks they didn't have anything on Hillary they weren't there to give fake information on Hillary and if they gave the trump team fake information on hillary that was later discovered to be fake because they didn't have anything they were there to set up trump. They would figure it out. This was the scam. So what are they the whole purpose you went began? Joe Referee happily in the only purpose for them was to just show up. Yeah that's it. All they needed for the media story as you saw from Adam Goldman's headline spy gate co-conspirator media alleged media guy. All they needed was the meeting. Look they met with Kremlin people. Oh my gosh everybody else. Filling up by there was no information to be transmitted. They're not gonNA give 'em fake information on Hillary. Discover right away. This whole thing's a setup and BS. So what do they show up and they start talking about adoption? The meeting was the evidence. What was exchanged at? The meeting was irrelevant. Because as you'll see in a minute the Muller team knows what was exchanged at the meeting was nonsense and ignored it anyways. The optics the optic estimating happen. Yeah Soundbites thank you not just in political campaigns but in targeting and spying campaigns to all they needed was the picture of them going in there or the sound bite. The Hey Kremlin link. Lawyer met with trump shooter. That's all they had so much off here for different way. I've said his name. He said more. This is the most damning part of this whole thing. Some short was this is the FBI's own notes was not particularly fond of DONALD TRUMP. Junior but stated don trump junior's account to the meeting with Veselnitskaya as portrayed in recent media reports was accurate. Some Chernoff concurred with Donald trump junior accounted meeting. He added they were telling the truth. So mature enough told the interviewing agents that he would have contacted the FBI thought. The meeting was nefarious folks. Listen we mess around on the show a lot. Okay I get it. I try to add some kind of you know because I don't want to overwhelm you with the pressing media all the time. That's incredible that is absolutely incredible. A State Department. I haven't even gone into the background. So mature enough. I haven't even gotten it because really the show would be five hours long long short of the translate. He may be saying well. Maybe he's quietly friend to Republicans and that's why he's telling me. Fbi nothin happened at the meeting. Ladies Gentlemen he was the State Department translator during the Hillary Clinton era he's acknowledging to the FBI on the records. He doesn't even like down trump junior. He's there at the meeting translate. Nobody has a better account of what's happening at the meeting than him. He is literally the mental machine translating the language back and forth. He's telling me FBI. Don Trump junior is telling the truth. Nothing happened at the meeting quote. There is no smoking gun. He doesn't Remember Hillary's name brought up. They didn't talk about collusion or even the election. Where's the media coverage on this and you still think you're being told the truth by the PROB? The like Adam Goldman New York Times media. Where have you heard this folks? This gets worse. Shockingly WHAT DOES MULLER DO KEEP IN MIND? This is now when this story in the New York Times drops July eighth of twenty seventeen the FBI interview happens is four days later and again. I believe the time story drops because people get win. This interview is going to happen and they know participants in the meeting said nothing about Hillary. So they're trying to get out in front of the story. Tell them to your times. It was a meeting. That's all we need. They know Muller team is going to do what suppress the evidence which is exactly what they did. Because you've heard nothing about this. The smaller go Mike. And Ladies and gentlemen it's Ho- cases B. S. I'm sorry but we're dropping this. There's nothing there's no there there. No he keeps the investigation going from US two years. Not only does he keep the investigation. Going had to techno fog with this group will look what he does. The Muller Team after reading the account of some mature enough suggesting this meeting was not quote nefarious. No discussions of those things we mentioned. Hillary wasn't even brought up. Does the team go in front of a microphone? Say Is this thing on dear America. You've been screwed. This is fake. It's a hoax. No look what he does hat tip techno funk for always looking at the court documents they she was search word for quote communications records documents and other files involving any of the attendees of the June twenty nine June two thousand sixteen meaning. Excuse me at trump tower as well as Arison Anna Galore of the two people who are alleged to be part of setting up this meeting. Tell me again how. We're not living in a functional democratic run police state right now literally the guy who's but is in the seat translating the meeting. Who is no friend of John? Don Jr. tells the FBI who relays it to the team that nothing nefarious happened that this meeting no talk of Hillary. No talk of collusion. There is no smoking gun. Don Jr. telling the Truth and the two thousand sixteen election. The Hillary Clinton weren't even brought up and muller goes at instead of is this thing on America. He goes out and issue search warrants. And what happens in July of two thousand seventeen right when this story leaks to the New York Times? Oh those regular system. I show who are really good. You One percenters nowhere. I'm going with this July twenty seventeen which I write about. Extensively in my book exonerated. Go pick it up if you missed it. There is a chapter on the civil war in July of two thousand seventeen when all hell breaks. Loose here is another addition to maybe in my next book. You may seem confused. What do you mean what else goes down in July twenty seventeen so we know in July twenty seventeen now muller gets win that Hey we interviewed the participants in the trump tower meeting. There's no there there I got an idea. Let's double down and get search warrants. Wow that sounds fair but folks. It's add another layer of analysis at tip my buddy to seven niner this one. We've got the best sources. What else does Muller Get July? The inspector general hands over the Peter Stroke Lisa page tax the two FBI. Investigators the investigator in the lawyer. Who are the lead team investigating Donald Trump this whole time their tax about the deplorables Walmart people. Oh conus lors. The Insurance Policy Muller reads all of this in early July of Twenty Seventeen Muller's team knows what they have. Nothing zero not only do they know. The trump tower meeting in the case is total garbage in a complete hoax. But they know the real case is against the FBI for illegally spying on Donald Trump. So what are they do? They dropped search warrants for all the participants. This is login police. They've Cuba like stuff here. I'm not messing with you. They drop search warrants for the participants at a meeting. They know is garbage. What else happens in July two thousand seventeen? Oh that's George. Popadopoulos gets arrested at the airport coming back from overseas. He gets arrested Dulles. Airport on a P. C. arrests. They don't even have a word for them. They have to draw it up later. Better shut him up to better shut up those participants in that meeting if America finds out the real scandal. Are Peter Stroke Lisa page? Fbi targeting a presidential candidate based on a fake dossier. If that gets out will be in real trouble. How do we cover this up? I got an idea. Let's just arrest everybody. What else happens in July? Twenty seventeen when Muller finds out the meeting is garbage and the two investigators in this case. Are texting each other about what a hoax it is. Well they story somebody to New York Times about the meeting they arrest Popadopoulos. Who else gets an early morning raid at his house? Knock knock. Who's there. Fbi data better door Paul Manafort Gosh. What a coincidence July of twenty seventeen he gets rated to although he was a participant in that trump tower meeting to yeah meeting were nothing happened according to the source in the meeting who told the FBI that we got nothing on a meeting. Let's search warrant Manafort. Sounds Fair Chore? If you're in North Korea who else gets a letter in July of twenty seventeen you may WanNa talk to us here. We think we've got you on radar screen that's right. The Flynn family Paulo at the time. We love this time. This was famous July twenty seven. Please go to Youtube. Dot Com slash. Bongino this all of the July Stop Muller notified about the text Manafort's rated popadopoulos arrested. Flynn is contacted by the special counsel to CIRCA DOT COM leak about Jim Baker from the FBI. Linda the GOP calls for a second special counsel in July. This is the civil war. Coen put under investigation. This is when the civil civil war breaks out. I mean people in the White House must get wind of these texts to the trump White House in July of two thousand seventeen must've understood somebody in either the Department of Justice or some friend of trump that they were the victim of the biggest political targeting scandal in American history. Now even worse we know now a primary source in the meeting has debunked. The trump tower meeting was anything criminal or anything even nefarious. His words tells the FBI that we also know Muller knows based on the stroke Texas reading that trump is the real victim here and he doubles down targets and arrest people anyway. The mother pro. What's even more disgusting about this? Whole case is that the evidence that someone was really colluding with the Russians not just colluding with Russians but Russian. Disinformation specialists at the highest level of their intelligence chain was right in front of their eyes and they ignored it. Folks in interview happens between Christopher Steele. The primary believed to be source of the dossier along with others. You know what I mean. Meets with the United States State Department in October. Twenty sixteen remember Muller's serving search warrants in July of twenty seventeen based on a collusion thing. He unquestionably knows is a hoax. And yet the evidence of the real collusion was sitting right in front of his eyes. Here are the notes from Kathleen Cavalier of the State Department based on her conversation with Christopher Steele. Who's providing all this BS? Information Steal tells you can look at a Roach right here tells Kathleen Kavulich of the State Department that back in July of Twenty sixteen his sources that he's been using target trump. Trubnikov SURKOV LATEST JOE. Travnik off was the former head of the Russian. Svr An intelligence service. This was right in front of Muller's face the entire time. This is why I'm not so willing anymore to give courts or anyone else the benefit of the doubt on this. You're telling me a judge comes out yesterday and is worried about bars. Interpretation of the Muller Report Ladies Gentlemen the Mullahs. Report was so clearly a hoax. In and of itself designed to continue to perpetuate the rumor that Donald Trump and donald trump junior colluded with the Russians. That the evidence is right in front of your face and you you ignoring it makes you. Sorry an imbecile. It is right there. Muller knew the whole time. Chew things that it was. Actually Hillary Clinton's team. That was colluding with Steele. Who was using or alleges to be using. It doesn't matter either way it should have been investing on the record had stated he was using Russian Intel to target a presidential candidate. It's right there in front of your face. He knew all this and he knows the case against trump is an unquestionable hoax and Muller's team. Did it anyway arrested? Popadopoulos arrested manafort arrested. Mike Flynn served search warrants onto participants. Meeting this is some Third World Garbage folks. It really is. This is some third world garbage credible. I want to go. I still gotta get some stuff showing you again. How the media has been a participant in this golden willingly wrote that story on July eighth despite doing no homework on it at all. They have been willing participants in this. I've got a video of this going to blow your mind on my final sponsored as our friends at my patriot. Supply folks listen. This isn't the time to mess around. I asked them to. I practically begged them because I believe in preparedness pleased by some spots this week because this stuff matters really. I don't need to sell extra spots. I'm really mean this preparedness matters. We ensure everything in our life that matters. 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I made the point strongly during this entire segment that the media has been a advocate for the deep state to perpetuate the rumor that the trump team collude with the Russians. Endless leaks of stories not backed up by any evidence at all absolutely now. What has been one of the other narratives? They've told us which again along with the trump tower meeting and trump collude with Russians his total bunk garbage one of the other narratives. You've heard as well. The Russians influence the election because Joe they spent one hundred thousand dollars in Wisconsin on facebook. Ads The Russians clearly through the trump. It is a moron IQ level one hundred on the stupid scale. Narrative that really. I'm sorry but you have to have a lack of gray matter to actually functionally believe that that the Russians impacted the election because of a series of cheesy barely literate ads. They ran in Wisconsin. Mollie Hemingway had Sean Davis from the federalist 'cause I actually saw it on Sean Davis's twitter feed I but Mollie. Hemingway was on Fox the other day on Bret Baier show and brought up this brilliant point. About how dumb you? After believe that the Russians bought the election for one hundred K. And barely literate ads given what just happened with. Bloomberg and check this out or is it. More of a scared of down ballot socialist. We didn't work with the people didn't think that but I also think it's interesting that Bloomberg is out. You know we had years where people were saying a couple hundred thousand dollars in barely literate facebook ads from Russians caused donald trump to win here. You had a guy spent nearly a billion dollars and he went nowhere. It's a humiliating defeat for Michael. This is really wants. That is a great point. So Russia influence the election with two hundred thousand three hundred thousand dollars in facebook ads stat and Mike Bloomberg couldn't get more than fifty delegates with five hundred million dollars Bernie Sanders message to because he likes to say the billionaires control everything we'll hear clearly Bloomberg having all this money didn't do as much for him as Biden having the media and the establishment behind him did I would pick media and establishment over what he's getting upset about brilliants for. I don't know who thought of it. I Sean Right that matter. They both work the anyway. But both of you. Huge enormous hat tip Michael Bloomberg spends a half a billion dollars. Remember he give every American a million dollars for Brian Williams. Msnbc simple math spends a half a billion dollars to be the governor of American Samoa where he gets one delegate. Half a billion dollars gets wrecked on Super Tuesday. And you're suggesting to me. What one hundred thousand dollar by Wisconsin through the whole two thousand sixteen election folks? I'm re please seek help if you believe that. I'm serious. Please seek help. Because you're living in an alternative reality you may need psychoactive drugs to clear you of clear delusion but that's the media spin it's been for years O. Russia's pot the election char more media spin the New York. Times wanted to get to this yesterday but it was a loaded show loaded show today to New York Times but out of store yesterday. What are they trying to get ahead of years? There's always a reason if you believe this journalism again. Go to the same psychiatrist. I just suggest that the other gentleman's go and ladies go through who believed that the Russians bought the election New York Times court bans agents. Who Botched Carter Page surveillance from seeking wiretaps okay? Well what's the story again? What's the real story? Why is the New York Times putting south? I'll get to a screen shot a moment from this. Let me just get to the point. The FIS accord is now temporarily banned. The agents involved in the Carter page FIS warm which was basically a vehicle to spy on the trump. T- right as you know for my interview with Carter Page at CPAC if you listen to her. Somebody Youtube Channel. They ban them from going to court for five warrants for the for the near future. Now folks is as a former Fed Myself. That is devastating. Now it's not enough please. Don't even it's not enough. People should be prosecuted period full stuff. I'm just telling you that you're pretty much done as an agent you're done. You're only purpose. Agents to go into court testifies an African on. Moore's if you can't do it because you would ban you're done you're finish your useless. You're going to these guys should be fired. Ben Even should be prosecuted. But I'm telling you their career at least temporarily here is over. So why is the New York Times reporting this story? Obviously that reflects positively on the trump team and Carter page look these FBI agents are being sanctioned right. Now why are they writing this? There's always and I'm always the guy to give it to you because they're trying to set up the narrative already joe that this isn't a systemic problem at the FBI lying to spy on political candidates. For Hillary it's just a couple of dudes and they've already been sanctions so by really condescending people. Who Do you cook a coin by now see? Oh No investigation needed here folks. The verdict is in. It was just a couple a low level guys. It's not systemic. Let's renew FIS authority. Renew the Patriot. Act keep up the political spying. Because don't you worry it was just that Coppola guys at the bottom? It's the real reason they wrote the story. Trust me on that one. It has nothing to do with exposing FBI ages who lied to the Pfizer Court. It has everything to do with telling you. Don't worry isolated problem here. Let's go to the New York Times piece to show you how again they can never ever tell you the truth. We hear expose these lunatics. They're talking about Michael Hearts the Inspector General. Who investigated this they say? Well how did not find evidence to confirm Republican conspiracy theories that the Russia investigation and surveillance of Mr Page where high level PLOT TO SABOTAGE MR trump for political reasons? Really really. So that's what he said that's what he said so. The New York Times is reporting that as a Republican conspiracy theory just to be. He goes on in the next sentence by the way to suggest that this that the judge Bosberg conveniently the same judge who screwed up that other thing we talked about in the beginning of the show that they're just discipliny knees guys again the narrative. Don't worry she small. But what's important there in the takeaway wanted us not disciplining this small crew isolated prob Joe who nothing to worry about. You also pay no attention to Republican conspiracy theories that this attacked by these FBI personnel on president trump. Do their spying operation. It's a conspiracy theory that this was politically motivated. It is hard said that remember. This is supposed to be journalism affect and New York's lawn is supposed to be legitimate journal there. I mean we all know they're not. But there's shockingly still very very small but small portions of America that believe the New York Times is anything other than a left wing conspiracy blood so according to the New York Times are which is clearly dispelled Republican conspiracy conspiracy theories air quotes that the attack on president trump through the spying. Operation Spiky was politically motivated. Okay well let's go to the video. What exactly did Michael Horowitz say? Did he say it definitely was not joe he must have said that right? I'm just following the New York Times. This logic is the audience referee. Must if the conspiracy theory so according to the journalist at the New York Times Charlie savage fake news specialist. Obviously Horowitz has thrown that in the garbage and as no evidence at all that there was political motivation at target. Donald Trump. Okay let's listen to Michael Horowitz himself in January twenty seventeen when they figure out the primary sub source and they talked to the the Russian guide that provided still all the information. What should the FBI have done at that moment to things reconsidered internally where things stood and most importantly told the lawyers at the Justice Department who they were asking to help them get Fiso in their five people in that interview right correct? Okay are you going to make sure those five people are known to the higher ups? They are all part of the referral that I mentioned earlier. Okay did they have a duty to report to their supervisors and eventually to the court sculptor information absolutely. They did not. They did not why. That's the question I can't specifically answer for you. Can you say it wasn't because of political bias? On on decisions regarding those spies up matters. I do not know their state of married at this point. So we're talking about actions now and trying to figure out what would motivate people. Listen I get it. I'm just a form of fed former candidate. I you know I understand. I don't run a major newspaper. I'M NOT JEFF bezos. I can't by the Washington Post The Wall Street Journal. Get it just one dude here. But how hard was it for Charlie? Savage of the New York Times in his story to quote Harwit's himself rather than just make something up. It's hard that clip is not hard to find. I kid you not when I tell you I went to twitter and it took me under five minutes to find that I'm being generous at. That honestly probably took thirty seconds. But I'm trying to be fair to alleged journalist Charlie savage who's claiming that there's no evidence of political bias. And it's a conspiracy theory. That is not what Horowitz said. He was asked directly by Lindsey Graham when the FBI agents found out they had information exculpatory information. Other words information. The trump team was innocent of all of these charges. Why didn't they tell the court that Lindsey Graham says? Can you eliminate political bias as a reason hearts? I can't but for you reading The New York Times. A left wing activist blog. No more. It's not journal and stop telling me you have no evidence whatsoever. The New York Times does any journalism at all. It is not journalism it's opinion it's blogging. It's lies it's not journalism they could've found that cut in two seconds and indicated in the peace and it would have been fair to say although political bias. Bihar hasn't been confirmed. It has not been eliminated as a motive. They could have done that here and they didn't they call that a Republican conspiracy theory because it's a fake newspaper. It's not real news. It's all fake. I know liberals listening this show whether it's on. Kabc radio listening on Youtube. Listening on Apple. Podcasts over I know this bothers you. I know you're pulling your hair out and your raging at me right now. I believe me I get your dopey emails and your threats game all the time you get me you rage it me because you know you're living ally because you know what I said is true all you had to do when you're fake. News papers was quote Harwich directly. But you refused. You made up a lie about what Harwood said and called it a Republican conspiracy theory. Because you're liars and I just proved that to you. By playing Horowitz himself and it drives you wild. Because you're all liars you conspiracy theory promoting lunatics and it drives you nuts because you've had to have a moment of self reflecting we've looked in the mirror and you don't like what you see your bothered by yourself you. Are you troubled that you live lives? That are lies. You want higher taxes for everyone else but you do everything to pay your account to avoid paying higher taxes yourself. You donate no extra money the government you claim you hate school choice. Because you're big. You're in bed with unions and yet you send your kids to elite private schools. You say you want government run healthcare yet when your healthcare is a threat. You go crazy because you're a fraud. Listen I'm sorry I'm not talking about Democrats talking to liberals your lives are lie. It bothers you. You look at your kids and shame. That's painful it is true you're a liar. At trump tower meeting was devastating. It was funny because the guy who was there said it wasn't the FBI. Must be lying about that. I thought you love the FBI when they were targeting trump. Horowitz said there was no political motivation I just played hard with your life is a lie. Your Aligarh nothing you say as any authenticity of RASC- to your living a lie and it's embarrassing and you live in shame and that's why you're so angry and violent that's why you go to these college campuses and you. Ripa pro-life tables down because you can't accept the fact that what you're doing is involved in the termination of human life. It bothers you. I've seen abortion pro-abortion that'll go up and ripped their tables down walk by and say you're wrong every day because I'm not angry myself but you are your entire. Life is a hypocritical phony fraudulent lie everything everything about you is fake and I'm sorry to give you the bad news and I'm sorry you're hurting inside because of it and I'm genuinely sorry. This is happening to you but maybe one day you'll have an awakening. Oh never forget. I'll take one hundred liberal revolutionaries quote the pilot movie worth one plumber. They're not living ally. Their life is as honest as it gets OSCEOLA Monday. Good Day sir. 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"It's Thursday night eight PM. Some big golden block letters of peer and a screen. You know the style. They say team trump online. Cut To shots of the White House the map room. There to chairs placed in front of fireplace. There are lots of lights microphones monitors. The setup looks like president. Trump might be sitting for an interview with a network news anchor. This is an interview. But it's with his. Son Donald Trump Junior. Powerful father, it's a special father's Day. Edition of Don Juniors online show triggered. which is your favorite trump child? And why is it evolve? was event. I have heard a couple of calls from you from the White House. Saying, you know. Maybe. You're getting a little hot on social media. That's true. Do you understand irony? And how that works! I do. In the world of this show, there's no corona virus and the economic crisis is only glancing leap present job numbers came out last week, and they were through the roof. There are references to the growing protests around police, brutality and racism. But, only in the context of say, blaming the Democrats for running Minneapolis and Seattle so poorly, they threaten bedlam bedlam all over the place. It won't be long order when Donald Don Jr. Talk about football. What did there should be tolerant protests by players? Their answer is now. About him sort of cowering to the mob. And that whole controversy. Here's a point done. Junior wants to make. He saw something in the TV news about some documents uncovered during the raid of Osama bin, Laden's compound and twenty eleven finally declassified them in there. There were paperwork from Osama bin Laden saying that he wanted to assassinate President Obama because it would put Joe Biden in charge. Did happen. The documents say that bin Laden said binding is totally unprepared for that post, which will lead the US into a crisis. The Washington Post reported on it eight years ago. The Obama White House said it didn't take the plot seriously. then. Fox News resurrected the story a few weeks before Don Juniors interview with his dad was taped. What does it say to you had basically the Democrat nominee for president of United States got the posthumous. Osama bin Laden endorsement that this guy is the guy that they put. It says to me. I didn't know that and it's just to me. We're GONNA immediately make a commercial out of that. Is that. The president proclaims it is true we speak the truth, and that's your, and then just like that triggered cuts to a brand new commercial Joe Biden received endorsement by Osama. Bin Laden premiered on Youtube by Donald Trump junior interviewing his father in the White House Joe. Biden China's candidate Iran's candidate and both must candidate. I'm Donald. Trump and I approve this message. This linked to bin. Laden is a trope in two thousand, sixteen, a fake image of Hillary Clinton, shaking Osama bin Laden's hand was widely circulated by Russian social media accounts. Don Jr. Show triggered is just one part of the trump media network donald trump. The president is famous for using traditional ways to reach voters especially through facebook and twitter beginning in the spring of twenty twenty, as trump put his campaign rallies on pause, the president's team began ramping up in a third area of non traditional media, podcasts and Youtube shows. campaigns do have podcasts Hillary. Clinton had head-on. Joe Biden has won. It hasn't been updated since May. Donald trump junior show. It airs every week. Some episodes get more than a million views. Triggered like other shows produced by the campaign offers as you'd expect a Trumpian view of the world. Like the president, social media feeds, there are plenty of lacerating put-downs, unlike those feeds these shows rap, the put downs inside Banter, friendship and family. In this world, what trump says is always true and the mainstream news, critics and naysayers. They're all fake. Hello and welcome to trump being podcast from WNYC and PROPUBLICA. Digs deep into the business of trump I'm Andrea Bernstein today on the show. We're GONNA. Pull back the curtain on a branch of this business. That might pass you by if you're not already a dedicated trump supporter trump media. This is a world like trump's business and the White House. This is populated by trump's close family. The trump campaign has poured a lot of money and effort into direct messaging their supporters through youtube and podcasts in a way. That's unusual, even innovative. For the last year, our producer Alice Wilder has been consuming this content. I started paying attention to the trump campaign podcasts last summer. It's called. Donald, J trump podcast and I've listened to. Every episode ever produced. It's usually hosted by senior campaign adviser Lar-. Trump who's married to eric trump comes out weekly and features interviews with politicians like gates and conservative commentator. Candice Owens, so Alice was listening to the podcast for about nine months. And, then around March, people started staying home because of the pandemic and I noticed. The campaign had started rolling out new videos every night. That's when triggered Don Jr. Show started. It usually has the vibe of guy who just drinks six red bulls, and then turned on his livestream. House you now? There's also shows like trump war room, which does general campaign chatter truth over facts, which is kind of an eighty style, true crime series all about Joe, Biden and a bunch of shows targeted to specific groups, women, evangelicals, black people, veterans, and then there's this show that really answers the question that followed me through college. What are you? GonNa do with the Women's studies and communications. Double Major and it turns out. The answer is obsessively. Watch Laura trump talk about her father in law on a show called the right view. View. What we did there I if you're curious, what is show called? The right view actually is just imagined. Review conducted entirely on Zoom, if Meghan McCain was considered way too liberal to be on the panel, and if no one ever disagreed. Sage Scott. Live discussing the hottest topics of the week with you tonight. We will. America way. These shows are full on prime time entertainment that reinforced the trump campaign's worldview. You can think of them as something of a prototype for trump media network right in two thousand sixteen. There was reporting that trump was considering starting a TV network if he lost the election, I had a moment when I looked at the Youtube Channel and realized the thing that people predicted in two thousand sixteen was coming to fruition. Trump's team was producing programming for seven nights a week, and there was an audience for it. The campaign didn't answer my questions about viewership or their strategy for these shows, but as best as I can tell, there are well over a million viewers a week. ALYSSA'S GONNA take it from here. There are three big things I've noticed about these shows that set them apart from other media. One is the way the questions are phrased to call them. Leading questions is kind of an understatement. Questions are like how important is it to real like Donald Trump, or how shameful is Nancy? Pelosi, behavior here's larr trump. I really do think that our first lady. Melania trump is an incredible role model for women and families out there. What do you think about Malania guests to say oh? Yes Laura, I, totally agree I, one thousand percent I've had the blessing to get to know her. On a personal level number to the shows operate under the assumption that everything Donald Trump does is part of a plan to keep America great when he said he took the unproven drug Hydroxy Clark one. Of Bravery I think it speaks volumes about the president, his character, his willing to like lead and be the one to go first, and then he says America I. Come in right after me. It's amazing. The third thing is that there are these big tonal shifts for example on the right view. They were talking about the George Floyd protests and speculating misleadingly about the role of antiques. And cheaper and other far left. Anarchist groups are using this tragedy as an excuse to violently riot burn down businesses and homes and hurt the livelihood of many American then suddenly a hard pivot, but there's also inspirational stories stories that really touched your heart and making thank you know one's spirit of America wanting to blast into orbit trump's new branch of the Military Space Force I mean. How cool is that right to be done in our lifetime? It will be done with President trump so that one of the. Exact exactly well is. Until like one hundred and fifty days without your husband or Taylor. I can take one of my dogs. I would do it. All these conversations wrapped in a sense of reliability. These women present themselves as being just like your neighbors. Take! Lara trump. Her brand is southern. Her instagram is most pictures of her dog and her kids on this show. She ping-pong regular mom and fighter for the president, the president and it's kind of funny. The whole concept of the view the ABC version is the women on the show have different viewpoints. The right view has no debate. It's just people agreeing with each other for an hour. There's no anchor asking skeptical questions, no caveats or qualifiers that you might find in a newspaper Ad. It's not even like posting to twitter where a hot take can. Quote tweeted. When I tuned into the campaigns Donald J trump podcast last summer. They were talking about Muller. Hoax in the phone. It was Ukraine this winter impeachment in the primaries this spring, the corona virus back. Thank God for President Trump being in power. That's when all these new campaign shows premiered. Also win a seat officials began thinking about how to run an election in a pandemic. The trump shows zeroed in on a new target. Vote by mail. Trump has been making false claims about voter fraud for years, and now he saw conspiracy by Democrats to steal the election. A big moment in all this happening late May that's in president, trump's and a couple of tweets alleging that if mail in voting was used quote, mailboxes will be robbed. Ballots will be forged and even illegally printed out and fraudulently signed. That claim was widely discredited, even twitter mark to trump tweets as potentially misleading the first time the site had ever fact checked the president. It infuriated trump and his team mobilized behind him all the way from the deal. Youtube shows to press secretary, Kelly, mcenaney in the White House briefing room. I assume you care about fairness and accuracy in our elections. Do not any was once a host of the trump campaign podcast. White House didn't respond to our questions there. Scenarios Evidence You can go look this up on PROPUBLICA. There is a bipartisan consensus on the fact that mass mail in voting can lead to fraud. There was I did look it up on PROPUBLICA. The story was reported by Jessica. And then all of a sudden, my phone was like buzzing with all these people being like. Is this right? She had set used my article to say that vote by mail was prone to fraud. When in fact, what my article said was voter fraud across the board is rare. It is slightly less rare when it comes to vote by mail. Jessica has been covering election security since before the start of the trump presidency. That's why I called her. I wasn't sure. Vote by mail was about idea and I think that that is. Like just telling everybody to calm the Hell Down Jessica, told me yes, rolling up. Vote by mail will be challenging, but it's not impossible. States like Colorado Utah in Washington have been doing it for years. They've worked out the kinks and now other states can follow their lead. So. After trump's tweet and twitter fact, check mcenaney defense the president trump's online media. World really jumped in. Here's trump on the right view later that night they were trying to slip legislation. That would say that on November third. We can actually go to a polling location to wrote. You would have to vote by mailing in your vote now I mean the the problems with that are. It's very interesting that they're okay I. Think it's particularly easy to make claims about the way that voting works because. It's this odd thing where people think that they know how voting works because they do it every two or every four years. But they don't. So Jessica says that. When Donald Trump or Kelly, mcenaney or Laura trump make a false claim about voting. It's particularly hard to understand that it's not true like Oh, if we don't have photo id, then someone could totally go to the polls and say that there me and cast a ballot and my name. If you don't know how voting works, and you don't know the systems that are set up or the way that poll workers are trained, or the way that voter maintenance is happening or the all of the other identification that goes into voting if you don't know anything about that, that claim actually sounds true. In the media world that Alice has been reporting on. There are a lot of false claims, but this one about vote by mail is particularly insidious, because so few people have enough information to put the claims in context. Undermining competence in vote by mail is a key part of trump campaign messaging. We're going to take one quick commercial break. Stay where we are. In. is destroying our communities rioting looting yet? Joe Biden kneels down at trump kink podcast. We'll be right back. We're back talking about the world of trump campaign media with producer Alice, wilder. Trump media is made up of trump stands people who are dedicated to their idol as possible, they are extremely loyal and extremely online. Trump. Media exists inside a bigger constellation of conservative media that is also rushing to bolster trump's version of the truth. And so mistrust. Places like Fox, news in one America News Network, then there's the conservative websites podcast talk radio trump's lawyer Jaysekulow has a radio show. Trump's other lawyer. Giuliani has a podcast and radio show, and this whole ecosystem works together to further trump's message that you cannot trust the media because mainstream media is biased or is pushing a political agenda that does not agree with conservative ideals. This is Francesca trip Odie of the University of North Carolina Hill. She studies the right wing media ecosystem. This is how she describes their pitch. This media is more trustworthy than other news sources because it's dealing with conservative. Concerns that others are not. Trudy has paid special attention to the media produced by the campaign. She's the only person I've met who also listens to the trump campaign podcast for work. She says people on these shows talk in a very particular way. A lot of research has gone into the right wing media ecosystem that they're quite frankly much better at changing the conversation. Remember back in two thousand sixteen when we started hearing, people talk about the deep state. That phrase was picked up and popularized by right wing media. There's also Obama Gate ballot harvesting terms that really only get used on one side of the political conversation. There is a really important effective communication strategy going on in terms of focusing in on key words that don't necessarily have a lot of information readily available about them. Online that lack of information is what academics call a data void, and it means that conservative media have a blank slate to work with. Free of any facts, but their own little to nothing exists around these phrases you can like. Push a bunch of content to the top of a search query. And so by focusing in on these keywords and ideas and saying go search for it yourself. Look at these tests. Do Your own research where people go Google right and when you type in these key phrases, the only content returned is conservative news media so type into Google a phrase like ballot, harvesting and other than a bit of fact, checking what mostly comes up is a mix of alarmed local news stories Fox News Coverage and Republican House Committee reports. They're all reinforcing the same ideas. Ideas expressed on the trump campaign shows here's John Ellis senior legal adviser to the campaign speaking on the trump campaign podcast and the Democrats know that they can't win Farren Square so they are wanting to manipulate the rules at every single turn their wanting to manipulate at our election system to try to impose a nationwide mail in voting other trying to impose ballot harvesting, and all of these ways that are ripe for fraud so that they can overturn elections in America. We've seen this happen. Is Said isn't unusual. These commentators they see every check on the president's power. The Muller Investigation the Muller report impeachment. As an attempt by Democrats to overturn the results of the two thousand sixteen election, and now we're coming up on the ultimate check of the President's power the twenty twenty election. It's not Congress checking the president. It's the American people, but the trump media is using the same framing that the only way Democrats can win is by stealing the election using vote by mail. This is a key part of trump's campaign strategy the Republican, National, Committee says it's budgeting twenty million dollars litigation including to fight efforts to expand boat mail. PROPUBLICA JESSICA HUSTON. They know probably that the vast majority of these lawsuits were going to be unsuccessful. But the farther and farther and farther, they can push the implementation vote by mail. The more chaotic vote by mail will end up being, and so then they can say look I told you, so it was always going to be chaotic when really it was chaotic because of them. So I think that you know either way. The president wins here. He either wins the lawsuits or the lawsuits. Drag it out so far that vote by mail ends up being just as chaotic as he said it would be. What what do you think the risks are in public figures? Engage in this type of. Theorizing about the security of our elections. You know I think that it. It deters people from voting the number of voters that I've talked to. In the last few years who say things to me? Like. Oh, I'm not going to vote. My vote doesn't count anyway, so why bother. They have this loyal fan base that is trump's fan base. That will just believe whatever they say, and that's troubling for me as journalists like the number of people. That have conversations I have with voters who just you fundamentally incorrect things about how their votes are. CAST and counted is really troubling. Republicans, Jessica. Houston speaking with trumping producer Alice Wilder. In late June. Trump told politico that vote by mail is one of the biggest threats to his campaign. He said that's why he's suing to block it. My biggest risk is that we don't lean lawsuits. We have many lawsuits going on all over and if we don't win those lawsuits, I think I think it puts the election at risk. On June twenty second he tweeted because of mail in ballots. Twenty twenty will be our most rigged election. In the nation's history. This episode was reported by Alice Wilder and edited by Nick Barsha, Ver- and make Kramer Jared Paul are sound design and original scoring tennis Brown, what our theme and Additional Music Production Support from Boko? Special thanks for his insight to Daniel crease. Matt Co Latte is the Executive Producer of trump INC Emily Boutin as the vice president of original programming for WNYC. And Steve Engelberg is the editor in chief of PROPUBLICA. By the way or keeping an eye on decisions by the Supreme Court, and we'll bring you an update on the trump V, Vance and the other tax cases as soon as their rulings come out, and we'll be back with another regular episode of Trump Inc later next month. I'm Andrea Bernstein. Thanks for listening.

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The Barrett Brief- Legacy Press Cannot Make Sense Of RNC Night 1

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09:06 min | 2 months ago

The Barrett Brief- Legacy Press Cannot Make Sense Of RNC Night 1

"We're talking about the first night of the the the RNZ, and the last thing I mentioned from this article from John. Poets. At the New, York Post is what were they highlighted highlighting? Working to release hostages deregulating certain types of medical treatments fighting in entrenched interests leading a strong economy until covid nineteen came along and killed it well, just in time for that from the New York Post. They released an article today that pretty much reaffirm. What president trump was talking about last night because they're they're article was titled New Thinking on Kobe lockdowns they're overly blunt and costly. and. This is just a segment from at five months. Later, the evidence suggests lockdowns were overly blunt and economically costly tool. They are politically difficult to keep in place for a long time to stamp out the virus. by the way at out New Zealand C along they were locked down for and how much they wreck their economy and the virus still showed back up. The evidence also points to alternative strategies that could slow the spread of the epidemic at much less cost as cases flare up throughout the US some experts are arguing. Policymakers should pursue these more targeted restrictions and interventions rather than A. Crippling lockdown. instead. So that reaffirms they're talking about that president trump. had a very strong economy and the covert lockdowns were designed. Let's be real. They were designed to kill it. And if you doubt it look at the states that are still employing lockdowns. New York California, most of Louisiana. Should Eleanor was ago all these places are suffering. Because of it. All right and the second the case the case was and second. The case was that Amar Democrats are supporters of urban chaos and socialist policies that will make American lives less say and we'll help misery the American class mile thing is, where's that wrong? Where's that wrong in this? Now. We don't have the clip from the Saint. Louis couple, but they were there speech was pretty good the mccloskey's talking about that. But we do. Let's go through some of these audio clips from the Democrat national. Convention let's start. With the one that's probably the most cringes and that would be one Kimberly Guilfoil, right? She stepped up and. You know you think I'm hurricane rick she probably down one of those like mega red. Bulls. Like mega massive rebels and just ran to the podium. First of all Kimberly Guilfoil I'm a forty year old dude. So and I'm a forty year old dude heterosexual. skintight orange whatever the hell you are wearing. Don Jr told you but it didn't work. All right. It just it was actually quite distracting because I'm going. To what what is, what are you wearing? Right, it's like a car crash so that didn't help and then on top of that, you had a very. Enthusiastic Kimberly Guilfoil gird your loins in brace series for this one. Ladies and gentlemen. Leaders and fighters, freedom. Liberty. and. The American, Dream Best. Tom. Ladies. You know nobody's in there, right? Kim? Did. Did anybody tell her? Hey, nobody else is going to be in there with you. Right that's an applause line without applause. And the and the cadence. You know what they should have had justin should add booker t's exit after that or his entrance. When she puts her arms up in the fire should have come up they might as well of gone with that. The is yet to come cows you. You might as well, just gone for it. You think the people in the back we're going my goodness what the hell. Calm down nobody is with you. You Know Don Jr. Straight up lied you know strata black how do great job on? Good job honey even though he's going Oh my goodness. Okay That that's a very auspicious start with the way she's just going nuts. They're the I'm glad you weren't in front of a crowd Gazoo knows how much that would have Emboldened, her to continue to just screech as much as she could. So we we have that first one. Then we had one from Herschel Walker. which was pretty pretty amazing. That was a that was a good one as well. Let's take a listen. To Herschel Walker speech about his friendship with President Trump. One Time I plan to take his kids to Disney world with my family. At the last minute Donald say he'll join us. So they us in a business suit on is a small world ride. That was something to see. It just shows you what a loving father he is. Hurt my soul to hit a terrible names that people call donal. The worst one is races. I take it as a personal insult and people think I've had a thirty seven year friendship with the racist. People think that don't know what they're talking about. Growing up in the deep South I've seen racism close I know what it is and it isn't Donald Trump. Some people don't like his style the way down obstacles that get in the way of his goals. People on opposing team life when I ran over them either but that's how you the job done. I pray every night God gives him more time. Give him four more years he has accomplished so much almost all by himself on a constant attack. But there are still more work to be done if you love America and won't make it better donald trump is your president. He's my president. And I'm blessed to call him friend. Asked. Good see this is the the humanization. They couldn't do this with `binding. Because nobody likes them right. They couldn't find anybody that's chose a good guy because you couldn't find anybody. Part of these things is to push back against narratives. Of course, people are calling Herschel Walker they will go to the guy's face. If you've seen the guy, the guy still ripped, you know the guy did was forties just because he was bored. They ain't GonNa Call Herschel Walker, a racist or an uncle. Tom To his face but he absolutely just nailed it and in this humanization. This humanization. Of President trump is something that a lot of people don't see. Because they're constantly inundated with the BAT orange man they're constantly inundated with the fact that let's listen to this. You need to hear stories from Herschel Walker about the humanization about how he's a good man how he's a good father because you need the counter programming to the to the the rhetoric that Nancy Pelosi is pushing out. We actually have the audio from Nancy where she's calling Geo the GOP Donald Trump domestic enemies. This is the this is the rhetoric when they say the Republicans had a dark convention or it was dark versus light. You add speeches from people like Herschel Walker and others talking about President and we'll get to Tim Scott's in a moment. Talking about how America is not perfect but it is least a good place to be. There's opportunities here. In contrast that let's take a listen to Nancy Pelosi talking about how the GOP are essentially domestic terrorists.

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OTM presents Trump Inc: All the President's Memes

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26:55 min | 1 year ago

OTM presents Trump Inc: All the President's Memes

"Being an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash podcast that's indeed dot com slash podcast on the media supported by indeed dot Com. Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates and a look at a Cleveland newspaper wrestling with the question who has the right to be forgotten I'm Bob Garfield a group whose supporters often traffic conspiracies was planning a conference at trump row I wanted to go here was an example of conspiracy an and that Ukraine intervened in the twenty sixteen election for Hillary that may result in trump being impeached so over the summer when I heard that American priority podcast made here at WNYC has been very busy lately host Ilya Marritz filed some central reporting from Ukraine a couple of weeks ago lenders we didn't episode about it Durell has been in the news a lot lately president trump's chief of staff announced from the White House the Center in Florida and side of in Amal you mental fiasco it's twelve thirty on Thursday they were paid for hosting it at their hotel and trump also profited politically by activating a dedicated fan base some of whom make his favorite memes members of the media inside a church the conference organizers say they condemned political violence from this one event the trump's profited in two ways gene conspiracy theories drive his policies and his politics the conspiracy theory that Joe Biden used his power to help his son make money in Ukraine and I'm walking to register for the Conference the Ballantyne Trump ballroom this is alice wilder trump inc produced oh this week we're featuring the latest episode in which producer Alice Wilder was dispatched to derail Donald Trump hotel and convention spiracy theorists paying the president if you've heard anything about this conference it's because it was the one where a video was shown of a fake trump shooting and stabbing mixing with business okay so we're coming back up to the trump wral the his political profile on the racist conspiracy theory that President Obama was not born in the US in this country I am really that America would host the next g seven summit there then trump backed off angrily George Washington desk she had a presidential desks helped him to win now he reports on immigration and Hate Allison Matt Take it from here Donald trump built her she's been keeping a particular under out for the podcast on the comings and goings on who's booking conferences there earlier this year she was at Durrell for a meeting of payday the business desk I don't think people with this phony emoluments laws and by the way I would say that it's cost be anywhere from two to five billion stage that we missed president trump has suggested that the noise from windmills causes cancer he repeated a theory that Hillary Clinton had something to do with the death of Jeffrey and we're GonNa talk about all the money being made finally an appearance by the son of the US president and we're GONNA watch a mean being born spent the weekend at the rally visiting panels with names like stealing America voter fraud in the USA and unmasking the Russian Hoax Eliezer that's like painted to look like the wall to wall like bricks like a brick wall and world there's very tall hedges surrounding the resort so you can't see the street or anything else it's like you're suddenly you're just inderal concerned and I will tell you this all started a week ago I assumed hey look you'd have no doctors that remember you have no nurses as the president of the United here's how it's going to go first we're going to meet the men behind the memes that flattered the president memes that are often conspiracy minded to lay this all out we're going to bring in one more guide a Matt Katz reporter Wnyc mat-covered Trump's election and the conservative media machine Okay there we go else hello can you hear me can hear you yeah Okay Awesome American Priority Festival and Conference Day One bond is freshly mowed very well you have to go down a really long driveway to get in and passed a security post so there is this sense that you're entering a d zone five whether it's insurance or payday lenders here the conference goers are mix of college Republican types bikers for trump and families with kids hours to addressing this episode we're looking at a conference that did happen after row there were no world leaders instead it was a gathering for so how's it going I mean God is just it's wild I don't know I mean there's one of the first things I saw was like a guy who has his dance with sneakers Phillips is the reason we're all here he's the president of American priority the for profit group behind the conference only just here's the point of American priority he says is to promote free speech to get around the mainstream media and provide a platform for people he calls citizen Yes what do you think it's honestly I think that is properties are big reflection of the way he's running this country right now I think that his property is reporter Chris I was registered as press the conference organizers knew I was there beans helped spread the Cunanan conspiracy theory which posits that a ring of pedophile controls the deep state and Hollywood and the media and only trump can stop it the way that I would love to see the rest of the world wouldn't it be nice if everywhere you went you had my heater water Moheda water is meant lime and a bunch of sugar they serve it at the hotel the adorable deplorable he was carrying a Maga- hat with Rainbow Ladders they go for thirty five dollars on trump's campaign website is this your first time at a trump property none of these theories have any basis in fact we don't know how much money trump's company made from the conference mm-hmm Jackpot sobek share the conspiracy theory that DNC staffer seth rich who was shot and killed in two thousand seventeen was taken out by the Clintons they did not respond to our requests for information and Alex Phillips did not tell us either this is what we do know the conference was booked for three days Eardley yes yeah yeah makes more sense you'll run you through like was he get this out I hate politics this is a hell of a convention to organize if you hate politics this conference is the second one put on by is named for famous Golfers Bobby Jones Gary player too to swimming pools and a restaurant grill that's where I spotted Alex Phillips across the pool wearing a plaid shirt and khaki pants it's gone tears are handing out swag bags with American priority Frisbees Phillips told me almost a thousand people registered general admission two hundred fifty dollars days and similar events at trump's rally resort F- costs hundreds of thousands of dollars for example when the Republican Governors Association had a two day conference world's looks like a trump property personally but we'll get there one day maybe from the check in desk I made my way past villain with major Maga- influence Mike cernan which is known for the Pizza Gay conspiracy theory which alleged that top Democrats are involved with child sex trafficking tracy unless we had Mike Stern which interviewing we had tracy beans we had Jack Pacific from one America News they're not the caliber or level of I'm very well attended for a variety of reasons it was at a Marriott Roger Stone's spoke to a mostly empty ballroom but this year is different at the check and they found serious violations of detention standards to forced labor allegations are part of two class action lawsuits federal court Geo strongly refused ellipse and he is pumped because last year's event seemed like a failure so the first one was well intentioned headed in Washington DC and it was awesome by bringing the news to them those boldface names he mentioned these are extremely online people jam-packed were did you have trouble getting it's definitely not jam packed and I went to like the very congested right now which is why sound like this speaker list on American priorities website constantly every time I clicked on the homepage of video auto played set to this music in dollars in contributions to a pro-trump group and the inauguration also Gio CEO gave one hundred thousand dollars to the trump victory fund just this corral and 2017 the bill was more than four hundred thousand dollars conference goers also booked rooms at a special rate one ninety nine and night in the weeks leading up to the conference I checked the trump reversed Obama's ban on private prisons GIO has hundreds of millions in federal contracts the company and its subsidiary have made about a half million house June the company has a pack that contributes to Republican causes and it spent almost two million dollars on lobbying twenty seventeen alone gio so what's next where you next well party pull party I did not bring us I'm GonNa wear my every conference has its can also put money directly into trump's pockets gio held an annual leadership conference at Trump Durell a spokesman for Geo told us these claims and plans to fight them ice detention centers throughout the country are run by prison company Geo Group A publicly traded company that owes much of its business to trump rally you probably heard something about this inspectors for the Department of Homeland Security examined an immigration facility in southern California and France's official charities one of the company's representatives was on a criminal justice paddle to talk about its efforts to reduce recidivism Gio logo was the splayed with other sponsors Geo Group did not respond to a question about why it has contributed to trump's causes and his business the final list included Mike Cernan bitch who has spouses racism and misogyny and I'll vida king who likened homosexuality to genocide there were ready to go to war burns was a regular surrogate for trump during the campaign but he may be best known for fabricating people around me got on their feet put their hands in the air it was part church revival part campaign on there at some point a flat earth made a brief appearance later his name disappeared and every time the speaker list was slightly different pretty much everyone who has gone viral in megaworld the crowd loved term and then I'm GonNa go see James O'Keefe he's the Guy Behind Project Veritas that group that seeks I night that I got a real sense for what draws people here the opening was hosted in the Donald J trump grand ballroom there were four massive chandeliers the stage was bathed in red and blue light then a man named Mark Burns took the stage that'd be amazing so that's where I think that trump's like being here right now is just making me so much about him in I think that that'd be a sponsor of the American Priority Conference it donated twenty five thousand dollars to a trump friendly nonprofit called the American King Foundation that's one of the almost all of these events happened in the main ballroom and breakout rooms on either urge swaths of his biography which he admitted to CNN fabrication is a theme here after the Conference Burns told me he condemns violence awesome standard grassroots organizers winning sessions on recruiting volunteers and minority outreach but it wasn't until I got there on the eight for things some over in-kind but you know Joe was one of our large sponsors are media company reaction Geo you may not know that name blamed liberals are rallying undocumented people to vote a theory that the president has also repeated by the way it's hot dish does crummer again this right wing movements it didn't spring out of nowhere when trump became president off probably skip absentee voting unmasking the Russia hoax should be great visited and constructive day to and What's on tap for today today nine o'clock is Laura Lomor her kind of new branding is the most banned woman in the world groups should become trump's supporters probably American peril national security in the modern era at eleven thirty and then voter fraud that session someone and meant to encourage conservatives to be vocal in their support of the President American priority founder Alex Phillips said the conference was quote successful upbeat isn't working this is the room where that violent video was shown I wasn't there when it happened when I walked in the couple of me makers wchs or ABC or large networks so we elevated them so to speak right we created the environment to elevate the citizen Journal we walked down the hallway open cool rounded door and the history there is just amazing and those two names predate trump and Maga- and memes Kramer was a tea party leader and Desouza has been a conservative agitator since the eighties there's continuity mustard near TV one of them goes by the name mad liberals it was on his name tag underneath it said Philip he's a middle aged guy grain and this conference at sponsors here's Alex Phillips some of them were you know finding us funds that we need you know obviously you've gotta pay bills and pay ooh where back and we're wandering the halls aside the meme room was set up like an art exhibit mostly empty except for small flat screen. TV's in each corner the sound myth of global warming now the left is poisoned our schools reality Architecture Threat Matt Christopher drew by the check in desk ducks drew is a youtube personality who goes by records and selectively at its interactions with journalists and political opponents at Ted I'm GonNa go to probably medics which is big medium session out of all the president's Children Don Jr. is the most online the king and we'll be right back and then at eleven am I'm going to go to the great awakening breaking the chains of the Democratic Party with Brendan Straight Cup he did some standup and then talked about why minority Matt Liberals taught himself how to edit videos through youtube tutorials in a lot of them Hughes's clips from movies and edits in politicians faces putting trump's face on superman's body for example another conspiracy theory that Ruth Bader Ginsburg is actually dead it shows scientists working on her body it's a clip from the six million dollar man at the day the speakers on the schedule got more famous and more mainstream it all leads up to the Friday night headliner the President's son Donald trump junior he knows how to work this room he plays at the notion that Silicon Valley is biased against conservative voices it's a core belief for this movement and he says he's in a group chat with other top me makers where they trade tips and source material for their videos many of them have been re tweeted by the president. There's a selection of bedazzled rhinestone American flag clutches and purses available for purchase producer. Alex wilder just before dinnertime every he's saying that you know he pays people lots and lots of money to do videos for him and he says but we get them back and the crab because they just made CBS Adam Schefter the Muller report then something happened gathering of conspiracy theorists at a hotel owned by President trump over here bikers for trump are raffling off a motorcycle for charity over there hair he was super caffeinated he told me about the time his friend fellow lawmaker surprised him and his mother with visit to the Oval Office we walk up we don't know how you do it but we love the stuff so hopefully someday I'll be twitter someday I'll be tweeted by trump p. means the Laura matinee searched him on Instagram I have spent so much time with the to D- version of this man reading stories listening to interviews and speeches and finally there he was the best talent in one room he jokes Don Jr. runs through all his usual material the kinds of things anyone can see on his twitter feed fake he's the first result since his dad became President Donald trump junior has really found himself as a public speaker. I'm sorry I know he was just the nicest guy you'll ever meet he was busy had a lot of things to do but he's been twenty five minutes with us one converged on the ballroom like steel filings to a magnet don Jr. was in the building turns out there had been a suggestion circulating in the form of a question where's hunter in part because they're spreading the president's political message for free in return trump gives them the attention and validation they're looking for the theme for the conference my own on page they made fifty thousand dollars Kimberly Guilfoil has been sitting on stage this whole time junior for his speech at the conference I'll get to that DON JR. says in all caps and you could have predicted that because you saw them bring this up yesterday and then it was sort of a ear real person identity that's the same day we learned that president trump pressured Ukraine to investigate onto Biden where's hunter is than us it's news host Laura Ingraham tweets whereas hunter why won't you give an interview or tweet really gets the means going where's Waldo where's hunter type of St House with world leaders these falsehoods these propaganda lies can like change the world's worst hunter t shirts over a paternity claim so the first time the question where's hunter appears on twitter is September twentieth from an account called Truth and truth with no to defend the president it pops up somewhere over the next couple of days re tweeted by both Maga- folks and would appear to be bought S- four days later turbine hadn't done an interview about the whole Ukraine thing and also because conservative talk radio at pushed a story about how he had supposedly dodged DNA tasks next day something really illuminating happened today were in the last twenty four hours which is that trump himself tweeted where's hunter off one of the younger stars of the Maga- movement Charlie Kirk then he gets traction for his whereas Hunter tweet and Charlie Kirk then introduces Donald Trump how much was paid for his speech he wouldn't say whether with the conference we do know that the night before he and his girlfriend Kimberly Guilfoil did a paid Gig at the University of Florida did his son text in his speech did he read the tweets or see something on Fox but we do know that this is the alternate reality the version of the truth that he operates now available on trump's reelection site twenty five dollars a piece we're GonNa talk about the g seven just like that where's hunter goes from the Internet to the President Son's mouth and then something even bigger Alison I got on the phone actions about another conflict the Ukraine thing and the dawning realization the Department of State had been pressed into service for ideas that were bogus the members led by self-described General of the memoirs Don Jr. giving a speech in a ballroom named for his father and then they pop up and the president's twitter feed and non phone call listener supported W NYC studios hey it's Bob the team at Trump Inc by donald trump junior who's sort of elevates them to the president and then there you have the the president is tweet with now one hundred thousand likes so really interesting if you were here right now you can see me veraciously nodding we don't know how the president gets onto these memes is the crown starts calling out where's hunter where's hunter like Hunter Biden I think is this thing summit of top world leaders would take place at the same resort re Pastor Burns had called for war we're going to have it there and there's going to be folks who will never crane in both blossoming scandals trump treated his public office as a lever for private gain to both questions. Jason we know it bubbles up from all these interconnected worlds from your old guard conservatives like Laura Ingram who has been a right wing talker since the Reagan years we're talking about we're we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA announced today that we're a few days after Alice got back from Durell Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney announced the next it I've seen the name of the residency yeah did he also mentioned to me in past the the corruption related to the DNC server absolutely no question about that but that's it that's why we held up the money now there was a report Komo Viennese answer was yes the president can do that subscribe to trump AAC wherever you get your podcast so you just described is a quid pro quo it is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the into the Democratic Server get over the fact that it's a trump property we get that but we're still going to go there just meant what role did the personal play in selecting Durell including getting it on the shortlist of ten or twelve places in the first place I think that's a fair

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tRuMp dYnAsTy, Down For Clowns? 9.10.19

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Did I tell you about that John in cruiser Chadha catching all this flack asked me for my second rape podcast and this is why I always need this. This is why I always need Diet Mountain Dew Zissis why I always need Diet Mountain dew and courtesy of somebody's name who I don't have in front of me but thank you for that nickelback the end of the episode and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host Mr Miles Gray and this is a lot more coal clean coal Ruben Assay of the city safe to say I smoke a little her majesty queen mom sold burberry new my jeans only only Taco Bill Hope. Does that gang do give me the hospital both series thank you. Elizabeth K at eakins thirty three S for that one really new to say newbies coming out of the the woodwork that listening leaving anecdotes about how my mother selflessly after screaming at her as a teenager sonus burberry patch on my jeans and my Diet Mountain dew this is why a was courtesy of guaranteed at these sorts guarantee not favorites berry guaranteed yeah well we are thrilled to be joined in Third Five Z hilarious j Keith van straten. Do I sing. I mean do I get to sing yeah yeah initial back though Oh. I don't know what he's on nickelback. Song that that I would know This is how you remind me pulled out like they think we are bad and I'm the guess there you go yeah yeah. That's what that is kind of. The only thing that's known about nickelback people don't like them until today active about fifty pages of material that was it's not on there until today because we're going deep on the history of nickelback today guys know him j Keith. We're GONNA get the little bit better in a moment first. We're GonNa talk about what's going on in the Varsity Blues Scandal with Felicity Huffman her sentencing unceasing the the wild couple of days that the president has been having on twitter and just general speculation that what is after the presidency for the trump dynasty. We're going to talk about the Apple Card and the new iphone phone we're in talk about impossible meat and whether whether people care that it might have the same calories and fat and more salt than the regular burgers replacing our we can talk about the fact that the joker one goldline at Venice and that that it chapter two made ninety one million in the US alone over the weekend and ask the question. Why do we still love clowns but I do we we like to ask our guests. What's something from your search history. That's revealing about who you are. I was searching today for a date tonight and dating in. La is mostly about logistics once you match with somebody on an APP. It's mostly then about figuring out where you're GONNA go and and trying to figure out what's fair because I work. I work in Culver City. This is going to be fascinating people outside but that's but this is a learning okay yeah okay so I work in Culver City. I live in Beverly Fairfax and this woman that a meeting tonight lives in Los feeless Silver Lake area so my home is between my work and where she where she's coming from so is halfway between my work and where she lives which would be nine neighborhood or is halfway between my neighborhood and where she lives so it's it's a lot of figuring figuring out there also. I knew it's not gonna work out so that kind of optimism that you get to to build a skype call yeah looking looking for the metrics are like where can I go that looks like an interesting person for having selected this but we don't have to pay twenty five dollars for a cocktail and let them know you were just on a podcast to give all the behind behind the scenes or ladies. I'm a quarterback owed. Is this a cool where you going. You know I I th I propose the cat and Fiddle Highland Melrose which is his Co.. which is sort of it's farther than halfway between my work in her home but not quite half way from my home in her home? Hopefully a nice spot yeah. I like the place I liked it when they were right around here on sunset on sunset but now they moved to to highland there and I don't know we'll see we'll see what happens yeah but that's what all right L. A. Talk insider talk being on the west side and dating on the east side. That's like Hatfield. mccoys is that is Romeo and Juliet star-crossed love yeah and so you're as aging in in dating part of my thinking was like well. I'll expand my my geographic search because they're fewer options as I get older but also as I get older. I want to travel big once you once you get once you get over four to wash your pretty much yet pretty much staying in your neighborhood yeah yeah. There're friends or like friends. I haven't been very close with close friends of west side. I still interact with them. People who not so much when they moved to the west side. That's the true test yet right and I'm like they could be dead for all I'd like to point. I'm willing to go pass. Lana go for love. Why don't think I'm willing to go to Encino. Yeah Yeah Yeah. He knows just right over there. It's closer than you think man. you know advocate for the valley. you know the peace and blessings lasting several other people have been seen. Oh yes something you think is overrated cards against humanity and we'll get high love comedy and I love Games. I just hosted a game night at my home last night. you guys did not attend. I realized I also didn't invite you would have been amazing hedwig on the Graham. I'd be happy to have you in the future hosting every other week and you would probably be happy to have you back on this podcast once that happens. I already had him on on my podcast. Hey we don't want to reveal the dirty underbelly that we use our podcast apart. Should I point without that. I would have to let you win. People so I love Games and I love comedy and I cannot stand cards against humanity and and even even more so I cannot stand people posting photos of funny combinations that came up cards against humanity. Yes pretty much just as two thousand twelve but I love class. I play a lot of games from eighties and the early two thousands I I've judgment on that I just find it completely UN creative and unfunny and when people post something of like look at this crazy combination nation of things it's like yeah that would happen because things are already pre-printed manufactured and eventually those combinations comedian it doesn't mean that your clever for having selected them and and you know it's based on apples to apples which is a great game that you can play with with kids or with with the elderly unlike Hannity Yeah but but at least with apples to apples you're you're you're. You're learning a little something about what the certain topics are but you also you also get some insight into the people that you're playing with like Oh. I think that person would choose that that combination of things and for humanity th there's none of that it's it's just random guessing well. I will say I agree with manufactured outrage. I think there is something something though like when you're playing cards you do have to predict like based on their sense of humor. It's like I could put something. That's witty because I based on the person who's picking or something. That's just completely absurd absurd. I'm not saying that that I don't much much Wayne. It's more it's more about like outright. You know it. It's being being the the craziest. Wacky I just think it loses. Its excitement. After you play the first time yeah I think the only other times I've enjoyed playing it has been like I've not been sober. Even then chainsaw chainsaws for arms or whatever that God is love that one plate once be amazed like oh my gosh. This thing is so outrageous and they put it in print. Wow that's kind of see something so outrageous and print and then and then the modifier decks now. I think people at a certain point. It's like right. You said the pope likes to jerk off on an old soot or whatever the Weird Combo is wow on and on we come on. I mean I'd rather place categories. Hope okay so holy yeah exactly why would he let me. Let me explain why it's funny. Yeah I mean apples. Apples is a fun game but not enough a pope. What is a good good comedy game to you. Hope CONNOISSEUR. I like regular games where it ends up being funny because people are under pressure in doing so pictionary is always fun yeah any celebrities favorite. Games balderdash you can at least be witty and clever in how you can get people to guess fake definitions of things. I like those kinds of things but also I just have fun playing enough. There's just not much very conversational about that became also you you. You're waiting for someone to play something. They play the wacky thing you make a statement about like Oh. That's so crazy and then you move onto the next thing I it doesn't. It doesn't allow conversation station allow being amazed at how crazy those combinations are. I'm not very tapped into the game world unless it's on council but like there was a version of charades where it started off as just sort of acting something out but as each round got harder there's like the same things people had to act out yeah but you had less and less ability me too actually emotive or gesture like I you would actually do you know proper surf act it out then you could only use like your face and then as has it got to one of the more extreme rounds you put a sheet over yourself and then you try and act it out with a sheet over you and that was Kinda funny because you began to just pick up on like micro movements that range it was this one answer. I you know I played that once voice their brain who are good at celebrity or too comfortable in a sheet ah let's go come out from under in their naked played a game of celebrity that didn't include people laughing their ass off each other. There're themselves until I over turn the table and then and you're like I laughter What is something you think is underrated. I have been in binge listening as a podcast all of the original episodes of dragnet from the nineteen forties and fifties and is some of the best written drama sort of the original police procedural and people familiar. Maybe with the Dan ackroyd Tom Hanks movie. Maybe they're familiar with the TV show but it all started as an old time radio show and it is fascinating how how frigging good at is some of the original episodes or lost up to about episode eighty or so out of two hundred fifty and it's just it's it's a really good police procedural in the Senate so fascinating about it it is what they choose to dramatize what they choose just to sort of narrate around and it's really dark like you would think you know even even though it's also wholesome and kind of whitewashed a from that era but there's also murders and rapes and on one episode they're trying to find someone's lost for coat and another one. There's a triple homicide park and the great thing about it is it takes place in La and so there's references to all these things in La that you know the street names that are still the same places that aren't there anymore right. You know they talk about the you know the the dodgers becoming to Los Angeles from Brooklyn so it's really fun and this end end it really it keeps you into the story and even though you know even though you know that they're just in a studio and someone is making sound effects and all that it really feels like they're in their car and they're going going out to to the valley and it's just really really really enjoyable incredibly well acted even though some of it's a little silly because basically the the they're their procedure. Is You find the suspect you ask him three times. In the fourth time you say come on. There's a little bit of that. It was you and also my my my favorite thing about it. Also is that they could be walking down a hallway or on a beach or a mountaintop and the footsteps Sunday's the same tap shoes walking on the linoleum floor at the beach yeah but it's really really enjoyable and like I said I don't let it as a podcast on us us. Listen to it at night. We owned a bed and outstanding. I mean I I hope I hope I'm not repeating one. That's come up a lot. I'm recommending drag dragged wait so it was a radio show also started radio show with Jack Webb as as Joe Friday and then he also of course played him on on TV as well. Oh Yeah I think there was a movie also in the sixties as well the TV show taught me everything I need to know about. LSD I don't know if you've seen the LSD episode but what well there was one episode. I've listened to on the radio the radio version where there's a suspicion of marijuana high school and so they asked they asked this girl like if if she they're trying to find the source of it and they asked us one high school girl. Did you notice anything strange about music. Well there was strange. Musky smell it's like and then when I got into his car. There was also that strange Musky smell and it was a little weird yeah exactly they uncover. LSD Use among a group of hippies in this one episode and and it ends with one of the like drug using hippies like they show up to his apartment and he's like laying being down and one of his friends is like he said he wanted to get further out and Friday checks his pulse and goes well he made it. He's dead old from Damn fucking CSI music in half. Caruso those sunglasses radio radio. The radio version is there's like there's action. There's chased car chases and the doubts and how does it work. It really does interesting to me about you. Bringing this up because like we live in a were re re entering this sort of space again with podcast right right right and we failed to even seats like they were fucking perfecting when they only had radio right yeah. I mean some of you know. Of course they have to narrate it a little bit. It's like Joe. He's got a gun shooting at you. There's a little bit of that. In your general direction you can pull off a car chase right. You'll exciting. I mean that really says something lookout lookout. It's a woman with a baby carriage. We we do you have your eyes closed telling you might. LSD What is a myth. Let something people think is true that you know to be false. that. Cleveland Flint is not a good place to visit ooh. I was just in Cleveland. A few weekends ago spent the weekend there is as I've mentioned on the show before I travel a lot often to accumulate mileage and that was a total mile run to go to Cleveland and I had a great time. It's really really cool rock'n'roll I did. I went to the hall of fame. I stayed downtown. I walked to a baseball game. Yeah I walked to a baseball game that for those maybe from normal but in. La That's unheard of yeah and it's great you know it's there are a lot of neighborhoods that are being rebe energized and unfortunately a lot of those are just like mini. Portland's which is a lot of the same across across the country but it's still got a lot of great personality and very walkable and gorgeous you looking over the bridges at sunset over of over the river and off into the lake. I got some incredible pictures pictures. You would never believe that was Cleveland and great people and Super Friendly. I've never met a bad person from Cleveland there. You go so yeah no it's. It's something that even people who I met there. Were like really you came here on purpose for vacation or you drew Carey Fan yeah exactly yeah. I know. I know the reason to go there. Then oh that sounds cool I hadn't been and and Caserta is a cheap fair needed miles and yeah really really great as president of the United States of America said Cleveland Rocks Yeah they did say that and and there's some people who called the cle- and other people call the land the land so called the cle- Cleveland cleve interested in the land sounds a little bit better yeah. It's the kind of place where like I go to a bar and people will actually talk to you and I met people at the baseball game. I went there alone and ended up. ended up with love to hear that. I the food is great. I should acknowledge that the only people I've ever met from Cleveland or the characters on the drew Carey Show I was GONNA say yeah. I mean I do love those care. Well all the women wear heavy clown makeup in that radius gregarious Nasha Sean who is a listener of the show and one of the smartest dude now and he moved back to Cleveland after college is had his Bachelor Party in Cleveland. A Great Time Walked to Oh baseball game great. It's great to leave a place in feel. Oh I didn't get to do everything I wanted to do. Yeah Yeah I just WANNA go to. I just my I want to go for the food. Actually actually it is I've seen so many foods specials like at the west side market or something. That's there and I'm asking meat market. Some of the best cream had their at Mitchell's. I went to Michael Simon. I am who I think is. An iron chef has a barbecue place there. It was that that was outrageous. Good all right so look Ohio Dude we're. We're doing the Lord's work for you. Just fly out right. I mean it was just an option. I I think so yeah but Cleveland Jannati Cincinnati. I'll check out. I love skyline but he did someone to show you around. Yeah exactly we'll check ethers gang there two houses all right guys. Let's get into the latest on the Varsity Blues Scandal. I think this is the part that we were all waiting for. Which is the sentencing the Justice Pumpkin Dump Dome. That's the law and order sound but done terribly we're Nalen Elena. We should be filed under music podcast. Yes point. We might get sued for copyright. NFL just from my vocal stylings but felicity Huffman her lawyers lawyers are asking that she just served probation and community service and a twenty thousand dollar fine but prosecutions like worth thinking you know brace yourself a month in jail right and I think there are people who are who more want less clearly her lawyers think twenty the need to hundred hours of community service and twenty thousand dollars is good enough but I don't. I don't know I think I don't necessarily desire for her to be in jail for an extended period of time necessarily thirty days some kind of kind of right am I. Am I wrong about right to me. I think there's ways though to tell these people that you fucked up. majorly doesn't just ask because I think when she was on desperate housewives she was making somewhere near like four hundred thousand episode was twenty thousand dollars. That's not an effective deterrent. That's not even and close to what she actually paid the guy to help the kid get in eighteen thousand fifteen okay. She paid fifteen thousand kid into Polish. No no she only it was fifteen grand just to arrange that fake test score because her kid to it did Jenky proctor. I thought people were other people like you know Laurie. Lori Laughlin I think was on the hook for half a million okay so that's why she is a little bit of a different case but anyway and Lori Loughlin guilty as she says good luck with that trial but like this I think yet the the fines could be greater or do something that you know if you're going to put that money into take the opportunity it from someone else. I think you have to make amends in a much greater artist scholarship. Yeah like a million dollars for under very sort of people who spot you're taking should have a little jail time be huge firepower even like if she agrees to do the community service and established a scholarship shape or something right. I think some jail time is because I think at the end of the day you want these people to be like Oh. Maybe we should just gallivant to Sandra pay on a yacht for vacation like ooh. Oh that's right. We took a three million dollar hit last year right. Maybe we need to rethink that because we're fucked up because you're trying to gain the college admission system breath in a in a different way right but now she doesn't do any jail time in just as the probation that she still a felon. She still a convicted felon if you're deal. I don't know if she I want her to be a felon yeah yeah. Why not you know she could be up there but I yeah I again. I think it's it's seemingly a light touch but again when you just hear her out because there are people who her lawyers are like look you know she was in a real tough spot when this guy came up to her and told her that her daughter based on her own academic merit and end ability was unfit to get into the school she wanted to apply to or enter all she had no choice what and her whole quote was from. Huffman mend think during a deposition or one of these procedures said quote I felt an urgency which built to a sense of panic that there was this huge obstacle in the way that needed had to be fixed for my daughter's sake as warped as it sounds now. I honestly began to feel that. Maybe I would be a bad mother if I didn't do what Mr Singer was suggesting adjusting to cheat on good parenting to teach your kids that anything can be bought that you just I. I understand where she's coming from but she's still made the wrong mm Troy. I've empathy for her for wanting the best for your exactly yeah. You want the best for your child but you also can't like teach them that they can buy their way felt guilty that that my dad was able to afford like an. Sat Tutor for me like I felt that was that was exposing the privilege that I had I felt that that was at the expense of people who you know who who couldn't threat and our prime to enter that environment taking. My Dad was just being a cheapskate right the right age for someone to take the test for me. He he explored his options yeah. He was like a fifteen k. All right you guys. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Let me tell you about Pete to who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights he even slept in this hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good so he threw his skates in the trash but then you heard how Geico proud partner of NHL good save money on car insurance so he switched and saved a bunch so it all worked out and we're back and just a general check in with the state of mind of the president of these United States after having a bad week last week over the weekend. The president went on twitter twitter to let us know who the real villains are and see if you can tell me if these people have anything common John Legend Lester her Holton Van Jones and John Legend's filthy mouth wife. didn't mention by name they are now. White Yup Yeah Ding Ding Ding he got mad at MSNBC story that didn't give him enough credit for being preferring Raggi prison. Not just a story like an hour long special on a Sunday night right went to prison was a whole thing yeah I think John Legends. The legend thing was that was pretty good. He said imagine being the president of a whole country in spending your Sunday night hate watching. MSNBC hoping somebody anybody he will praise you Malania. Please praise praise the man. I just like how Chrissy Teigen her name is. actually said to our core apparently she just got tired of correcting people really. She's like it's Tigon but like honestly I don't care anymore. Raise like WHOA come on stand up for your name was when she called him a pussy ass. Bitch is pretty good so that's how that was her response correct. Yeah I guess to all this. I mean th I knew something happened. Bimbo when I just saw the headline Chrissy Tiga President trump was he as a bit. I was like that's all I need to know. She I mean that was her response to him calling foul mouth and it he wouldn't mention her name or at her because presumably he saw that follower count right so the amount amount love that's out there boy thought he would get away with beating up on. Van Jones just a man. I wish he tried to actually Salihi show up for a smoke show with Chrissy teigen because I feel like you have is whole skull ripped off on twitter and it would be l. He could never come back from yeah. It's but that's why he didn't add her. She was even saying through twitter beef style. You couldn't even at me son. Meanwhile has Alabama hurricane. Fuck up has continued to kind of linger. The National Weather Service chief came out on Monday in full support of the local meteorologists who contradicted the president's presidents dangerous panic inducing tweet and the president has continued to suggest he was right and apparently the National Weather Service Chris has had been applying pressure downward for people not to come out and like saying anything about the controversy or you know contradict the president in any way a source who spoke to Gizmodo said this is the first time I've felt pressure from above to not say what truly is is the forecast. It's hard for me to wrap my head around. One of the things we train on is to dispel inaccurate rumors ultimately that is what was occurring ultimately really what the Alabama office did is provide a forecast with their tweet that is what they get paid to do and weather has officially entered the trump trump zone where this is the chief scientist of the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration came out as like. I'm going to actually investigate what the fuck happened here because this smacks smacks of a political thing because they had to come out and be like actually he was right rob but then the chief signed is like that's fucking a terrible thing to come mount and have to say something like that because our whole the service we provide is giving people accurate information in potentially dangerous situations for people when it comes to inclement. Glenn weather then come out and do all this other stuff in service of this. You know obsessed president. Here's it's a danger to public safety. Yeah and that's what I wanted to say like. I know what it's easy to make fun of it so the sharp czar yeah you know that this is a really big step towards ebbing anti science anti fact and all that but yeah just as far as public safety. I mean if there's you know there's there were people in Alabama probably who needed to know. Should I evacuate or not my grandmother out of the nursing home or not and he you know Oh and because of his own ego. We can't get a straight answer on. I mean next time. Let's say next time an emergency. That isn't predictable and you're gonNA need reliable facts and he's going to say whatever's the most convenient convenient for him or face yeah. It's IT'S A. It's a real dangerous. step even though it also is fricking ridiculous. Even though like on paper like I'm probably goes it goes whatever the scientists are saying versus trump the fact that you have two competing narratives right talk to somebody who's not as savvy could potentially be used and be like well. We'll which one do I believe now yeah and the president's came. I I mean he was like there. Were Alabama wasn't in any danger. The storm was gonNA. They knew the storm is is going to be too. Far East to affect Alabama and he said Alabama's GonNa get hit worse than expected and think of what that means for people yeah. I mean that maybe they leave their job and don't get paid for that day because they've gotta go prepare their home. They've got you know. They've got to go buy gas. I've got to go buy supplies. This really affects people as you no and again. Thank thank goodness. It wasn't the opposite. He said you know he didn't say something isn't going to happen but you could totally see that happening the exact same way right imagine if it was the opposite where where he said you know he kept insisting. Florida's not going to get hit or the Hamas isn't going to get hit and then they do right he the tweet that is causing all the controversy not from him but the one contradicting contradicting him was just like guys. Don't wear your Alabama is safe like we're not gonna get a straightforward thing. It's like housing allow our how is this still thing. Say Alabama allergy not just say sorry about Alabama. I read it's not Alabama Emma. I saw one theory that the ten he got confused because he read some piece of paper that said all Bahamas right. Oh Shit that somehow in his head. That's how we got the idea that Alabama but even then he wouldn't even be able to admit that now no of course. I know you fucking poor moron. I mean they're not poor for him. Fuck there is that there is that Samantha B piece that is supposed to be a joke about how he can't read that is wildly convincing when you look at like all the all the different people who have like worked with him and like different depositions where he's like. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not GonNa not I'm not gonna read that sentence and Pete Davidson saying SNL. He couldn't read cue cards so miles. We have a little bit more insight into the two win the president early what seems like decades ago early in his presidency. Yuck it up with Russian officials yeah after the next day after firing Jane Pretty much the next day yeah there was that photo of Sergei Lavrov and Sergei Kislyak so the foreign minister and former ambassador respectively where like in the Oval Office fucking Yukking it up and like what the fuck is going on right and into the story that came out at that time is that trump may have revealed some kind of intelligence gathering source because he was sharing information that we had collected on like Isis in Syria Syria that had come from like an Israeli intelligence source or something like that and at the time it was sort of the beginning of like what the fuck is this guy doing like bread did he literally they just have Russia's the Oval Office share some kind of like secret intelligence and then just kept moving and at the time it was just like one of the you know many hundred stories that it comes out a week about the the president but recently it was just sort of it just came out that they as a result of that exchange like like a lot of the intelligence officials in the US concerned about a very deep intelligence asset they had in the Russian government and had to extract them like very quickly glee because they're like. Oh Fuck like even though this specific information that was revealed at this meeting didn't have anything to do with them. They're like we don't even want them to Gen Angelis. Fuck out which is extreme because that's like an extreme remedy then maybe just summoning them somewhere else like no. We don't have to pull this person out to make sure nothing thing terrible happens to them and that was sort of the byproduct of his show Intel Party in the Oval Office bright and it just sort of like mounting evidence or just sort sort of adding to the narrative that you know the intelligence community has just deep distrust for him not even like when he's sharing like you know a missile launch photos does like they're just like you know cool dams to share with weird because in a way we kind of need this sort of deep state happen but I think it's it's it's happening you know because of him rather than as A. I don't know I'm trying to say no. I'm trying. I'm trying to say the conspiracy but the deep state was that was that he was part of it and that it was but really it's becoming an offshoot. It's becoming necessary to create one because he's a so out of control and he's irresponsible with information and then yeah his temperament temperament than to on top of it. It's like you don't know how close we are to some disastrous dismissed that now you know people on the left or like. Oh thank God there's rogue okay protect us from the fact that James Comey was lionized by the left for a little while is pretty wild. Yeah based done everything else literally everything else that he's ever done rather than be fired by trump in have a feud with him but that was the logic jared. Kushner thought was going to be good. He's like yeah fire him and then the Democrats will like you. It's like dude what yeah okay. Let's talk about the shit. Show at the fuck factory succession shadow chat to success started watching the show. The Atlantic has a new report on a sort of many cold war. That's brewing between Ivanka Concha and her brother Donald Junior. Yeah it's it's a fucking wild read. It has so much interesting background. It's just it's over the course of many interviews with aides and friends and people around it. There were sort of kind of understanding this. They're the relationship between Don. Jr. and his sister was evolving in becoming more and more adversarial as time goes on and because now since he's become president trump is now president the two kids are like really desperate to impress their father in any way possible but it seems like there's sort of two games happening. There's one with Ivanka jared. They're we're doing it. They're playing a more like inside game where they want to just get as much influence in the city and in the administration as possible and from there cement a place for their future if they choose to move onto a political hustle if you will and then. Don Jr. just wants Daddy's affection right so it's happening in two different ways but they're at the end of the day they both want their fathers of the approval so the backdrop that it's all set up against is really interesting. Apparently this is like through these interviews in books and other things they said that essentially Donald Jr senior cultivated a Darwinian dynamic in the family unskilled on ski trips when they Race Down The mountain trump jab at his children with a poll to get ahead of them. His favourite fatherly maximum was don't trust anyone and he liked to test his the children by asking whether they trusted him if they said yes they were reprimanded. The weirdest part is is that none of that seems out of character no starting. I didn't make sense right because you're like. Oh of course like if that's what's being put your head. You'll never trust anyone or feel for anyone because everyone is out to get you right. Everyone's everyone's out to get you you should you can never feel bad for anyone and then from there like it got worse apparently when Ivana Trump and donald split and he left Ivana Yvonna for Marla maples they both hated their father for basically what he had done to their mother in how he treated her and how he handled the whole thing but the two kids heated on her in public public and then leaked stories about how he cheated on her to the page six in addition to abuser and I think all of that but then the kids handled handled their separate way. Don Who is twelve at the time was angry. He said this is again through these interviews quote. How can you say you love us. He reportedly spat during an argument and refuse to talk to him him for a year. eight-year-old Ivanka was afraid of what you might lose in the divorce Blah Blah Blah but in the years that followed don seemed to define himself in opposition to his father trump loved golf so don don stayed off the links trump was a teetotaler so don drank heavily people from his frat in college said he was drinking heavily drinking himself into a really dark place said one former frat brother who were called. Don Breaking down in tears at a party as he talked about his father. He hated what his dad did his mom for a while he didn't even want people to know his last name and then. Ivanka on the other side got closer during that period and visited him every day after school. Teachers went to the office and began to pride herself by saying like he will. He'll always take take my call. He'll he'll interrupt a meeting to take my call and so that was sort of the backdrop two of them like starting to compete with each other and it just gets fucking doc in wackier and darker as things go on because there was a I think around last year November there's or mcclatchy report about how someone was describing. How like Don Jr. Wows as Ivanka. Disappoints was the headline and they began to be like oh see they're leaking shit about us. Blah Blah Blah and they had a confrontation. He's like tell your people cool to stop trashing media the media. Oh Ivanka's vodka said to John Joe Shit and then this whole time they talk about Eric who's just like and Eric likes to stay out of it likes to play with socks. Essentially he's just like at the you know at the at the mar-a-lago running the organization and just not really knowing what to do. Yeah I mean it doesn't based on you know whenever you read kind of insider like deeply reported insider reports of what it's like in the White House. You are always hearing about how surprisingly influential Jared Nevada are a based like surprising because they don't have roles but they're just still dealing with those yeah I mean technically an official adviser but that gives them the freedom to just kind of Rome and like going to different places and just you know have their impact fell. It's like having the rumors numbers of the white right yeah. They're like an extra having an extra person in on like a basketball court and you're just getting like run around and like block anyone because because you don't have a man to guard like you don't have an official position to get to do what you want and yeah you don't hear much about Don Jr. other than stories about the president being like my son's a fucking idiot there was another thing in there in the Atlantic article where they're talking about how when he was born or when avant was pregnant with Don Jr.. She told you what why don't we name him. Donald and he's like what if he's a loser right was his first response to that yeah so he's very and that's just you can tell in their relationship and also don Jr. desperation to impress. That's why apparently during the campaign. Ivanka stayed behind the scenes because her dad was even like she's got an image. Yeah she's been. She's been tending to that. You Yvonne is more important than this run for the White House and the future of the United States. I mean that's so over the weekend trump's twenty twenty campaign manager predicted acted a multi decade trump dynasty saying that likes he and his family are all mazing people and so I mean basically that is how they're thinking about how do they how do they define the dynasty exactly that just because he was president wants now that name is going to have so much like cachet everyone everyone everyone but tiffany find the diner. She's trying to be a lawyer so they do say that. Tiffany and Barron are lucky because they had a much different upbringing than the Eric Dong Joo Ivanka Ray where he wasn't like making it creating this toxic family environments like what did you stab your brother. CV stuff enough kind of thing where it's I think maybe he was just normal neglect right. It's more like having a grandparent like grandparent at this stage for him. He doesn't need to be like overly involved. I you know I hope Baron Kenda a decent human but good luck to you sir all right. We're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. My Name is Danny Shapiro Shapiro and I'm the host of family secrets a podcast about the secrets kept from US secrets. We keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Family family secrets is more than just a podcast audio experience. It's also a community a place for people to share powerful stories of heartbreak healing and in hope in season two we hear from a woman whose father's descent into dementia revealed his deepest darkest secrets and we hear from a man Dan who kept his wife's terminal illness a secret to protect their children listen to season two family secrets on apple podcasts the iheartradio radio APP or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and apple having a big week apple cart is newly out the new iphone is going to be revealed this week and the coolest thing I have seen out of those two news items is that you can sharpen your applecart. Turn it into a knife way. What yeah you can ah because it's like titanium or whatever some sort of metal the like works you can just sharpen it like pretty easily as a guide just like on in a proper grinding wheel or just he he used a sandpaper like wet the sandpaper and then just like kind of sharpened it and so you can make a knife out of anything. I've gone into these youtube. black holes where there's this. There's this guy in Japan will make a knife out of like packing tape or out of Carre and all that so I'm not terribly surprised yeah whereas nurse have done amazing things if you ever WanNa look up like things people have been killed with in prison and like stop sending your credit Cardis to prisoners yes. It's a pretty cool. That's like the because it looks dangerously. It's kind of cool. It sounds already like of you know Thin Blade Ray and now you can be like Steven Seagal in the glimmer man right. I don't know if you remember that scene. He cuts a dues throat with a credit card. Does he like these do star Rob. Him and he's like Oh. Oh Yeah here's my credit card and straight slits dues throat it. I don't know why the first thing I thought it was like Steven Seagal seen in the glimmer man we'll because it's a ridiculous taking more yeah. I'm just I'm more in my head. I'm like why do I remember shift from the glimmer man. I'm into the credit card and points in game so I have a lot of different on credit cards and so this this the the heavy metal credit card has been a thing for. I don't know last five years or so not understand what the benefit or advantage of it is. It's so you can feel feel like doing something important the whole reason to have it so that the waiter the shopkeeper says. Oh hello all sack there you're right. You know small person go this heavy Viagra. I wonder if there's something unconscious about the fact that money he is all basically imaginary numbers and assistant now so we want them to have sand tangible because you get these metal cards. You can't shred them so if he gets. It's if you need to be and if you close your account or if it gets you know you have to change cards or whatnot. You have to send it back in turn to have to buy. I've I have not been re purposing the heavy into the credit card mileage points guests I mean I know you clearly care about miles but yes do you. Have you have a system that you use for your purchases to optimize demise your your point. I probably have about twenty different credit cards or something yeah. Yes the the how well especially when I was very heavy into the game. I mean that's nothing thing for people who have a game into the my points guy up points. I have written for the points guy but I'm not points. Go gotta go but no there are people who have a whole system with a with a spreadsheet where they know that okay. If you apply for this car then you maximize it out to this and then eighteen months later you can get this one the people who really do that. I've I've gotten. I've gotten a little more seen for myself so I got my basics that I know I've gotta get. I gotta spend this much on this card in order to get my status on this airline and the rest of it. I'm going to maximize this because this is this this many points for for restaurants always got my restaurant purchases on this one right stuff like that so yes and I've got a I've got a little system and apple cart has no has no place in and what's the point I do. I think you do get some percent cashback on there but it's not a not a great value for my friend got one. A friend of mine got one when I was one of the first to get him and I asked him why because it's look right yeah yeah. That's an empty which is really which is white white such brilliant marketing because they're getting people weren't looking necessarily to get a new credit card to to get that a couple weeks ago when they first started rolling them out. We re wrote up about this like the apple support page page just for the credit card because it it stains very easily. They're like don't put it in contact with leather or denim. The Fun of the word is your pocket out in Runnymede surprised that he used on the first time and it scratched right right yeah exactly and a lot of people were like what do folks because again when it's apple you want the shiny new thing being alive. I wouldn't let it scrapped. I've never used to apple where I've never seen one credit card that doesn't look like shit or like begins against aware down within three times of being swiped right so like I'm surprised they didn't invest more in like being like and it's GonNa look fucking sick the whole time right. There's no are there no no numbers on the Apple Cart. It's not rotating or whatever and it randomized that I'm not sure 'cause yeah it. Almost oh seems like the way Steve Jobs was like no buttons right right right right. They're like no anything that credit cards are used for yeah. It's random is is the F- like actual card number so that's when you connect yet when you use it with the APP I think when you with yes so like that way you'll it's just they just WanNa make it. It is difficult as possible for somebody to take your phone card and spend one hundred dollars at a gas station in Northridge read the new iphone. They're working on a folding iphone iphone with a laser guided three time of flight camera. I don't even know what the fuck that means one in display fingerprint sensor and those are all slated for twenty twenty or beyond this one is just going to have a bigger camera basically a damn. I've two flights whenever you that combination of words. It was impressive. Yes eser's time of Flight laser-guided an in display fingerprint sensor what is wondering time AFL like to like. I have no idea I've I've been turning that over in my mind for a while to help the focus of the camera I think that may be used as something emotion or whatever okay that makes more sense. It's like I thought it was to remember you're gonna I think it's the capture things in motion so like if you want to get a still photos thing in motion will laser using a laser. It'll figure out where the thing is so. It won't be blurry. I'm guessing it's that yeah or or or it's another way of paying for tacos. Yeah exactly I mean the the camera seems to be the main thing that they can keep making better Everything else seems like it's right. I have an iphone ten. I don't really see anything that means like Oh shit. Yeah Okay 'cause before that I had an apple iphone like four that was just rotting restarted smell yeah. I'M NOT GONNA lie. The phone started to smile. I don't know why I don't know if you've noticed this. I have a laptop old Mac laptop that also has started it to smell. Oh Yeah if you have any answers in that. Please let me know but yeah I think even now like I don't know how much you can really hit rate on this where we're like. Oh we've okay now. We're in twenty twenty twenty right. Yeah I mean the I think the thing that would be great as if they could like double the battery life or something but nobody is created a better battery since the first iphone like it's all basically the same and the battery makes up most of the body of your camera like that's why the the pluses have longer battery life because they just have bigger batteries portrait mode is really the the end end end of the road for me like I after that after seeing one person used portrait oh this'll be cool four times. Yeah portrait mode is great. That's one of the great innovations. Probably it helps helps. I notice for people with kids. They actually have good photos of their kids on these other shits. It was like cool. There is not a good picture of me before the age of of like twenty yes yeah there. There's like like my son has so many good pictures of I know I have to constantly. That's a double edged sword. Though you know like everything's all that history is available now for these kids and exists forever. Yeah I mean. Shit it again now most of my most of my pictures of me as a kid who just me squinting click on the Pali Nitzan on yeah or just like cut me with my pupils heavily dilated at a high school football game or something handy necklace. You can't blame the camera. Hey man look man when you're partying your party. Actually I was in band at high school football. I was always in the stands Nice. What I would drink in the stance dance. You would drink well do while I remember when our our football team got really good my senior. I got real reckless and on trips. I had a fake. Id that I Made Myself Photoshop. Oh shopping from New Jersey and I would buy Bacardi and I would I would take a two liter bottle of coke and do fifty fifty rum and coke basically so I'll have this to leader just lit tank. Thank the pass around. The back of the bus almost got in deep shit when the security guard tried to stop me from running on the field drunk and they're like are you drinking get on my mom and I gotta go looking like rain back in the crowd while anyway storytime with miles. Let's talk about impossible meet. There's like sort of a an online online backlash brewing sort of thing like people are talking about how impossible meet and beyond me has the same calories the reason fat and more salt than real meat and basically treating it like like a health food that people are being fooled by. I don't enough. I don't necessarily see it as like eating that stuff because it's healthier. I do have grants not as you know there's not much of an impact on the environment right and I still pretend I'm eating and fucking beef yeah and I also just feel better afterwards generally than I do if I also there's fiber right. He's Vegan Patty's at isn't in real beef and it's just not as hard to digest as meet now so like that's I don't know I also am skeptical of stories any story that is the seems to be making the rounds on NBC News and Fox News and CNBC where it seems like it's like a mainstream media story a and I feel like those sorts of outlets have long standing relationships with big advertisers and you know the this is these products are obviously threatening a established order of things it's kind of it always happens anytime. There's a new dietary. Wonder you know it's like when nutrasweet first came out. People thought Oh it has no has no health benefit risks at all. Oh therefore you can need thousand candies with with this race still not realizing that there's the there's the calories and the fat and a lot of those or like the nutrasweet thing was like the cancer risk was actually actually greatly exaggerated. They were feeding like what would be to US bucket loads of nutrasweet into the rats to give them the can't is interested Saccharin Kerlin known aspartame. It's sparked a spy. Yes yes when when baked lay's came out. Everyone thought Oh this is the this the problems November wants to Jack Dial. Shit themselves like Oh. It's new with the lean yeah. Yeah people always do it or don't don't realize that there are still other elements that you know depending on what your diet is working network but I I haven't tried one universities to try it because I think also to the tax. will all this processed food man now now. This is a process most food is processed on some level rates the added giving bullshit ingredients that were sort of conflicting with the quote unquote processed as to who are the bad ones versus anything that has to go through a process to be made right but yeah. I mean it's like the dairy farmers being like can't can't milk and Almond Watch me yeah but they just did motherfucker find a new angle they have they're paying the best advertising minds ends in New York millions and millions of dollars every year to come up with like the best way to shit on these products and that's where you end up up getting like well this cancer study like people don't trust chemically altered like imitation foods so let's focus on this one cancer her study that is if you feed a rat. It's wait and nutrasweet on a daily basis against cancer. What does the Beef Council. How are they even advertising advertising right now because I remember it used to be like beef was for dinner for like it's been quiet for them like in this new era so I guess is their strategy just to like sort of behind the scenes. Take Shit on these not only meat. I don't know and I have I have no evidence to say that these. NBC stories are like being planted or anything. No no no but I'm saying but like any industry you would have an like some kind of marketing plan to shield yourself from the product. That's coming out whether you do that very underhandedly eighty or just try and be advertiser or advertising. That's like beef. It's how your kids will get smarter. Bray some shit yeah but I think like anything you got to investigate. What's in it and how that affects the way that you eat and what your health is? The same isn't the same for everybody yeah I would. I would also like to see like a a product by product side by side of like what what the health changes are just because I could also see this being a thing where like a couple of the products are the the same but most of them are actually better for you but we shall see yeah. I mean we all know Taco bells healthy for you. Yes Taco bells great for finding new angle and their ground beef is quality meat is is equality means equality quality kind of a kind of a a organic flesh. Yes they've been making fake meat for years Phoolan us. That's like a Jay Leno. Take read about this. Let's talk about clowns scary clowns. Are you know not at all. I don't really have racist yeah. I I have been have been interested in in looking at the old. TV from the fifties like clowns were breakfast cereal. Mascot Sciutto loved and loved them teams very strange to me because they do seem like scary like inherently not like a thing that children children would like what someone who is painted themselves to convey an emotion that they might not be experiencing underneath right and Lissette is they can't be trusted and they're disgusting dangerous side and I mean that kind of is the general take is It seems like people are like fuck. Clowns clowns are scary. Harry so it's not super surprising but it is interesting to me that they're still so salient that chapter two was set the record for your biggest. September opening and biggest horror movie opening outpaced only by it chapter one and then also the the Venice Film Festival gave out its awards at the end of the festival and the Golden Lion which has been given two movies like Raw Chaman brokeback mountain Roma went to the joker movie joker which Pretty Wild it's pretty big departure for book movie to get the award even though this this is apparently less comic book movie than like taxi driver influenced character study but clowns are still a powerful symbol apparently. I I don't know why is it because there's like a generation of us. who absolutely did not like clowns like? I feel like baby boomers like my dad. I've seen like photos of his room as a kid and there was like clowns shit yeah. I remember my grandparents house. They would have some clowns shit up. This is fucking yeah now. My grandma collected take claritin and then like maybe maybe then our parents weren't so into the clowns and now we're like full-on like you're fucked up and weird yeah like I don't know if it's is it is it a the passage of time is just purely because we are or maybe were introduced to more examples of clowns being like possibly weird with like John Wayne Casey Art Orlando Shit Yeah. It does seem like a it's tapping into. Maybe something like it's just such a break from the past. I like how I inherently responded versus. How like my grandmother collected them and thought they were like cute. Little Ceramic Clown Authority. I find clowns neither scary nor entertaining right there all right. I'm in. I don't necessarily like get upset at the cloud but I'm also like I'm like okay fine why I've know people who are like Cobra phobic right and I fucked up around them because I didn't take it seriously right so you make because you show him like a wild montage clowns cut into it unexpectedly and you know I'm sorry you gotTa jump scare from a I did from co worker and I had to apologize. I soon realized what had happened like in a way to me. I didn't take it serious. I'm like yeah. You're doing that thing where like culturally clowns like Oh. No you have a full on unfold. Take People's phobia seriously. I you know earlier times. I've done that too. I once I had a friend in college who was was had a visceral reaction the word cotton balls and I was like Oh yeah right and said a bunch of times and she was like like really really fucked up anyways. We're just called to horrible. Yes podcast but it's still like why is the joker the character that has brought out some of the best performances in film like of the it's just interesting to me that like a clown bad guy would be the the character that draws these you know. I- conic performances out when that as a cultural symbol has become sort of irrelevant or maybe it's just been co-opted by symbolically. I think it really sums up like the waning influence of white men in America. Yeah that's interesting right like the most of the time this character is an impotent man. Ray Who isn't achieving at the rate of the other men around him ray and then puts it's on a face to obscure that inner failure brand down in cell the clown and then resorts to again. I talk about this all the time when you are you feel powerless the next if you cannot create then you will destroy and that's the next way you can feel potent is by saying Wolf. I can't build the things I want. I can destroy the things around me with with great. Effectiveness is another joker does so I don't know there's like you know there's there's many layers. I think to what the joke that was pretty those great analysis. I just think it's because they're cute. He's got a red nose that but also to but you know shadow to clowns to. I recently saw like clowning show like proper French clowning. That's that really is an art form. I think if people got in touch with that style of conning we would maybe we respect clouds. Baskets was a good show is it. Is it actually a funny the French planning that you saw is it the because they all have different emotions so there are ones it was more impressive to me as performance what the what the clowns can symbolize in the facets of our humanity. Hannity Well Shit Man. That sounds pretty weird anyways everywhere. You should go Jaiqi. That's been a pleasure having you on the daily. Zeitgeist you had me on your show. That's right too long ago. Your guest on Kgo factors that episodes available now that was came out yeah just Friday so there's a lot of fun wherever you go factor pod dot com wherever you get podcasts versus. Jenner Friedman and I'm not talking to say who won but your topic was jaws to so yes. If you're chopping then you must have one. I got I got to meet the writer of Jaws to less importantly also the writer of Jaws but main mainly he is the writer of jaws to that's going to be on his tombstone as you know that you were going to meet the writer no I I had no idea I didn't even know given jaws to Wu Tang clan albums like solo albums between Shir thirty six chambers and forever and rocky rocky and I didn't know which of those it was gonna be all right right right right and they they wouldn't tell me I tried really hard. I showed up at Jacob's house. You know banging on the door. We were having game night though we couldn't let him yeah the topic our but yeah and then I was that was pretty wild and it was awesome and you get some insight into questions. All of you have always had about jaws to so where where else can people find you go factor pot and a AH DOT COM and on twitter instagram and all that it's at go factor pot and then I met Jay Underscore Keith and I wanna say that every time I've been here. I've mentioned a place that I'm going and and ended up meeting people first time I met people in Charlotte which was awesome and last time I was here. I'm in China's going to Sydney ended. Oh yeah a couple of people at a bar in Sydney really the cool. I wish I had a I don't have my next upcoming. Trip is Brazil but not until November okay so we have time for all the people in amount. It was really fun and it's I love meeting people and travelling. I'm I'm often traveling solo so it's really really cool to do that and we just did. A couple of live shows of go factor self in Chicago and one of the people who showed up was wearing a t-shirt so out here man appreciate it very much. It's always you say when you're here. Your family also hospitality snow that is there. Is there tweet even enjoying by any chance I was well. I love Daniel Deals. tweets following him fact check the president and he had one that was just so it again every once in a while. You realize how crazy crazy as so okay so apparently trump tweeted this thing about mark. Sanford now is going to run in the Mariam and all that and he he he made a reference to mark Sanford how he was found in Argentina with his his flaming dancer friend and I was and I couldn't figure out what the answer was and Daniel Del says by flaming dancer. The President Means Flamingo Dancer so it's Flamenco though there's no evidence it is the woman in question. A former journalist has ever been flamenco dancer right so I just love how cold stone accurate and journalistic he is and yet also pointing out all this absurdity and he'll point out like just different things. That trump says that indicates. This is about to be ally. This is the thirty six time he said this so. Daniel deal is at deepdale eight he was at the Toronto Star now he's at has CNN. It's just a great follow just like just sober and matter of fact and also just makes you realize how crazy all this is in also makes you feel a little more sane for for somebody fact checking it and realizing okay. I'm not crazy for seeing that yeah. It's always nice to have that voice miles working people find you just the funny thing about Mark Sanford. I remember Bruin. He was I think when he was having to resign from being governor of South Carolina. There are some affair thing going on. He referred to some. I think it was his basement or friends basement baseman. He was hiding out in as Jurassic Park over and we'd call it Jurassic Park. It was like he said it really ought to know what the fuck are. You talking about like you're talking. You've you've been laying low from the press because you've been fucking Jurassic Park. which is someone's basement anyway by the way my my date for tonight just cancelled well then we could go to Las Villas? Let's meet up alcove. Let's do it okay. I don't know if any of that means like I don't know Alcoa's Great Danes a huge garden big portions fakery bake our man a slice of cake. There will set your blood sugar back a few whatever things you can set your blood junior back for me. Yes miles of gray on twitter and Instagram tweet that I'm lacking is from Michael Tanenbaum at I M Tanenbaum. AH SAYS EVERY MIND HUNTER EPISODE Holden. Did you kill her killer. Nope holden. We heard your Dick game was weak sauce killer Taylor. I killed her in eight or arm for breakfast. Dragnet techniques still worked for a couple tweets. I've been enjoying enjoying a big idiot at. Www V. www tweeted vibe ing so hard to imagine dragons radioactive active. I'd take a corner going too fast in my nineteen ninety eight. PT Cruiser brawl my car instantly killing my wife and children talk that made me laugh because it's so vivid and somehow you don't have empathy for this character. You say you would fucking roll your cooking and also like that's probably happened. Blake who we don't know what causes fatal car accidents for like. Maybe maybe maybe someone was buying or maybe like a song that was just too lit like came out the day before and that's why fatal car accident listen spiked. We don't know an alien skier tweeted sorry. I can't go to the party anymore. I was abnormally optimistic at the time and that it's time you can find me on twitter. Jack under Squirrel Bryan find us on twitter at daily. Zeitgeist read dailies like on Instagram. 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Donald Trump Jr.s Journey to Republican Stardom

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Donald Trump Jr.s Journey to Republican Stardom

"From The New York Times I'm Michael. This is a daily. We're here tonight to talk about the great American story. One of the most memorable speeches of the Republican National Convention this week was from the president's eldest son Joe Biden and the radical left are now coming for our freedom of speech, a blistering attack on job by in the American left, they want to bully us into submission. If they get their way, it will no longer be the silent majority. It will be silenced. Majority predicted a national descent into anarchy violence and oppression people of faith are under attack. You're not allowed to go to church, but mass chaos in the streets gets a pass. If voters do not reelect his father, imagine the life you want to have one with a great job a beautiful home. Perfect family. You can have. Today my colleague Jason's angrily on Don Juniors long journey from family outcast to right wing star and now. To his father's political air that is the life that is the country that is the world that Donald Trump and the Republican party are after and yes, you can have. A. It's Friday. August twenty. It feels like Donald trump junior has had many different lives and the most recent of those is what we saw at the Republican convention this week. But where does that story start? It literally starts in the hospital room when he's born on New Year's Eve nineteen, seventy seven, his mother wrote a book a few years ago in which she recounted the scene where she tells her husband that she wants to name him. Donald. Junior and Donald objects saying you know you can't call them Don Jr. what if he's a loser? From their everything else flows I used to kiss him before going to school every morning at seven o'clock in the morning I'm going to school hugs kisses and used to say a couple of things no smoking no drinking no drugs. But then he followed up with don't trust anyone any ever and he followed up two seconds. So do you trust me I say of course you're my dad he said, what did I just thought it was a total failure. You guys my son's a loser I guess. His sister. Who is the second oldest was clearly his father's favorite which is your favorite trump child and why is it he loved? Allies. And that's something that dawn speaks betty kind of jokes about it now but he does talk about it all the same hundred percent on a percent hundred percent and I'll even say you only for purposes of this interview, she fulfilled all the things that our father kind of envisioned for his children. She was a model. She was Polish she loved him immensely Don had a much more tortured relationship with his dad yourself said that. You saw children maybe once a week somewhat famously after his father and mother divorced. You're having a lot of difficulties with your twelve year old son Donna you haven't talked to him since May Don was twelve and thirteen at the time and he refused to speak to his dad for a year I mean, this is painful. Such I am not GonNa disparage of honor as a woman or as a, but he was clearly someone who is kind of. Being pinball back and forth between his parents he was at a terrible age for this. He was old enough to actually realize what was going on his two siblings, Ivanka and Eric were in some ways too young to understand. He was he was old enough to understand. He was old enough to get teased by his classmates and I think it was just a searing experience for him. I always feel that it's very important to be really with the Jovan. Donald Anyway on my children if anyone. If anyone of my children goal always take their call no matter what I'm doing now that you and so what is the reaction of this young man who's being pinball between his two parents and no doubt understanding very well that they are going through a highly public, very ugly divorce. I think his reaction in some ways was just trying to get away from it and his parents sent him to boarding school in Pennsylvania and he just tried to forge kind of his own distinct identity there. He got really into the outdoors. Things we do on weekends and our free time where shooters hundreds were outdoorsman and away that his father just couldn't understand. Well, they love hunting and they've always loved hunting I don't and just found the whole thing baffling. But I've never been a fan and I haven't actually seen anything but I've never been a fan of it now but Don Jr. really sort of poured himself into that. Then when he was going to go to college, he was thinking about actually going to University of Vermont or University of Colorado and just kind of being a ski bomb and eventually sort of relented to his parents wishes and he went to University of Pennsylvania where. Dad had gone but even the error, he really kept a low profile. He did not try to make a big deal out of his name and you know at this point, his father was famous was an obviously politician but he was a celebrity businessman people knew who the trump's were right is is, is it sometimes burden or always a luxury to have trump is your last name I think there's definitely a burden associated with times. I mean you know the people who knew him in college said he really tried to play down his name. Okay. So is it true that there times when you just have introduce yourself as done and forget the trump do To the point where fraternity his nickname was ron rub and he went by Ron and one of us for new brothers told me that he thought you know one of the reasons he liked the name was just gave them another level of anonymity. So at this point. He's distancing himself from the family. Yeah he's trying to figure out his own path and after graduation he had a job waiting for him at his father's company but he didn't take it. He went out to Aspen for about a year and a half and he skied and he onto and he fished and he was a bartender I know this image in my head of. Don. Jr. Is a kind of Connor Roy figure for succession fans. Kind of job luth of. His world right I mean. He's kind of dropping out of the family business and it sounds like this rebellion. Yes. But after a year and a half out there I, think he thought he had to take his place in the family business and he went back to New York City he went to work for his dad and he gave up sort of plaid flannel on the Komo and he started wearing the pinstripes suits and the wide ties and slicking back his hair and you know he seemed sort of surrender to the expectations that he was he was going to become father protege. and. So how does that go for him? The funny thing is it doesn't go all that. Well, what do you think? Greatest strengths and weaknesses. What do you think we need to improve on work on or what things we should just leave exactly the way there are if any, it was an awkward fit for him, you're young and you're not always focused and you have to keep focused when times got bad I wanted focused and that's why I came out. So strong and other people they went bankrupt and gone and never never again, many of my seem like his greatest value to the family business Selena came on the television show the apprentice. He joined as a cast member few seasons in sedona vodka. You have a famous father, is that easy or is it tough? It's definitely not always easy. There's definitely advantages to we've got to be spoiled hopefully and all the right ways I think it's tough because you're. In a good light, he was one of the boardroom judges why work for me? Why not go someplace else getting to work on the best projects in the world and the producers, and some of the people who worked on the show were cast members talked about him as being this kind of stabilizing presence on the set mainly because he was, he was willing to run interference between them and his dad. His. Dad would have these temper tantrums and get angry at people and junior would try to assuage his father and also comfort the people. His father was mad at There was a saying it's not your fault. It's your turn. And he seemed to really be intent on just trying to make other people feel comfortable around his dad I. Mean People talked about how he would tell jokes which was not typical on the set of but Don Jr. Tell them and and make people laugh and he tell jokes at his own expense. What don't you know that you'd like me to teach you what do you think I know everything so it's irrelevant I'm trump. Let's now I'M GONNA trump I've been fortunate to. Be Able to do this free for a couple of years and got to. So at this point, it sounds like Don Jr. pretty much on the margins of the family business. I mean, if you are running interference with angry employees of the apprentice, you're not exactly central to the trump organization. No, he's a peripheral figure in the trump organization April figure I think in his father's life, and then when his father decides to run for President He is very much on the outside. I have the honor of introducing a man who needs no introduction. Vonda and her husband jared. Kushner are the linchpins of the campaign in the early days. They have. You know really just sweeping influence over all aspects of it, Ladies and gentlemen. Donald J trump. But Don Jr. is given these very discreet small kind of tasks to do for the campaign like what? So before the Iowa caucuses. Donald Trump is being attacked in Iowa for being a city slicker and being you know closet. So while Donald, trump sets his sights on the clock is win here in Iowa you can pull the trigger twice and you'll get two shots out of his sons Donald Junior and Eric extended the campaign trail to the cornfields of Iowa where they are literally aiming for pheasants dawn who is a hunter gets sent out to Iowa. With his brother. Eric is also a hunter and they go on a pheasant hunting expedition in front of all these cameras Donald Trump, apparently says to dawn you know don you can finally do something for me you can go hunting. Iowans that this part of your culture very much so and we got into it very young age and he's just given these little sort of things that he can't mess up. But just in a mindful that Dan definitely did one big thing during the campaign and he messed that up very significantly year. The one area that he showed some initiative in outside of his lane was arranging for a meeting between a Russian lawyer who said she had damaging information on Hillary Clinton and campaign officials like jared. Kushner has brother-in-law Paul Manafort who was on the campaign chairman arranged for her to come to trump tower to turn over the damaging information she had on Hillary Clinton? Right and this is now known as the meet the trump tower meeting. Yeah. This is the meeting. Eventually will threaten. Trump's presidency but at the time, no one knows about the meaning people who are in the meeting and to them it was nothing. It was Don June you're brought this woman in saying she was going to give Hillary Clinton and she gave us nothing and then when trump wins Ivanka and jared, they go to Washington and they become members of the White House and Don and his brother Eric stay in New York extensively to run the trump. Organization their father's president. But in Don's case don is put in charge of the international side of the trump organization and because of a promise that his dad made about not doing farm deals, he can only work on pre existing deals. They can't do any new deal. So not only is he not involved father presence. He really doesn't have anything to do at the trump organization. He just kind of left in New York and everybody forgets about. But then breaking in stunning news in our politics lead today the release of an email chain from last June between Donald Trump junior and this man in summer two, thousand, seventeen, the New York Times finds out about the trump tower meeting the previous trump junior took that meaning on the promise of getting dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government and don't forget. Then Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort was in that meeting. So was the president's son-in-law and suddenly he's front and center and the initial defense of junior from from the trump people is that donald trump junior is an idiot that is exactly the story. This is just Don Jr. being idiot he's not a traitor just stupid. What struck me as I look back and thought about the exchange between Don Jr. and his father. Michael. Cohen who was trump's personal attorney at the time he told a Senate panel that Mr Trump had frequently told me and others that his son Don Jr. had the worst judgment of anyone in the world president trump thought that Don Jr. has the worst judgment of anyone ever met in the whole world. It was more like he was resigned to a sense idiocy. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Trump said with a sigh. The president is telling people that Don Jr. is not the sharp knife in the drawer. I mean way to think of your kid and your Chris Christie is out there saying. I know very well is by no means a sophisticated. Or this is this is a guy who loves his father and got involved in politics. This father got involved, but I don't think I would have gotten environment. They're all just trying to basically minimize don. Jr... doofus. For friends on the five and welcome to Hannity in. This is a Fox News alert but Don Jr. he decides he wants to defend himself Donald. Trump junior is here tonight to set the record straight about his June twenty-sixth team meeting with the Russian lawyer. He will join us for an exclusive in depth interview that's coming up in just a minute and then he goes on Fox News he goes on Sean Hannity Show Don Jr.. Good to see you here for Shit I didn't know there was any time list and delivers a really kind of aggressive. Hard. Hitting performance. You know he attacks the media I think the mainstream media is probably done themselves. You know a pretty big disservice by going so far by going so extreme by being so sensational eventually starts attacking Robert. Muller I've said it publicly I said it yesterday more than happy to cooperate with everyone I just want to get out there and that's part of why I released all the stuff today I wanted to get it all. The attacks Congressional Democrats someone sent me an email. I can't help but someone sent me you know I read it. I responded accordingly, and if there was something interesting there I think it's pretty common or Don Jr. thanks for coming in. Thank you answered every question I can think of when we come back, we'll get a legal. And as he kind of finds his voice in a ticking his father's critics and the people who are investigating his father, he really becomes a star to his his father's supporters and you know I think they obviously love the fact that he is Donald Trump junior and they love the fact that he's aggressive and he's a fighter and you know he's he says politically incorrect stuff. But he himself has a comfort with Red America that I think his father in some ways does enemies certainly like Lanka. Trump supporters see that in him they can recognize that in him, and once he finally comes out of the shadows and. Sort of take center stage and embraces this role. As you know, his father saw his father's kind of most vigorous defender it all sort of falls into place from there. It interesting Jason, as you said earlier that avant goes rule was to be kind of a smoother of her father's edges. Russia's going to stand down all these sharp elements of his political personality. Now, Don is taking on the role of somebody who amplifies that divisiveness about Donald. Trump Yeah. Know Don Jr. for a guy who was kind of off you know in the corner and no one was listening to him. It turned out he had a much better almost kind of instinctual understanding of what his father's appeal was and what his father actually would be as a president. He had no delusions that his father could be sort of tamed in any way that a vodka thought. Polish him he didn't think that was possible and he realized that that would actually not be a successful presidency that that would not appeal to the people who put Donald Trump, in the White House and I think. In a strange way, he turned out to be kind of a smarter political actor then evocative. He had a deeper understanding into what really made his father's presidency work than his sister. Yes and I think he had a he had a deep understanding and he was much more clear eyed about whose father was and what does all this do four Donald Juniors. At times quite strained relationship to his father. Starting in two, thousand, seventeen after the trump tower meeting comes to light and starting with Don, Jr. defensive himself and defensive his father. Allows for Don Jr. to take on a bigger and bigger role in his political operation. Cliff Sims who worked in the White House for Awhile. Told me a story about one day. He was in the dining room behind the oval office with the President who was watching Cable News and Don Jr. came on and the President Stop doing and turned up the volume and was just sort of expressing kind of admiration and surprise about how good done junior was on tv saying he's really good at this isn't a Men I think started dawn on his father that his son actually maybe was good for something. Back. This podcast is supported by Qube the streaming service with fresh original stories that unfolded minutes. Kuby has been nominated for ten emmy awards including the Thriller Most Dangerous Game Starring Liam Hemsworth the Piercingly Funny Comedy Dummy starring in a Kendrick Topical and Intense Drama Free Ray Sean starring Stefan James Laurence Fishburne, and the shocking drama survive with Sophie Turner Watch shows like you've never seen told in minutes download now for your free two week trial. 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Donald Junior takes his low point in his own relationship with his father, the trump tower meeting, and pretty much low point for the presidency, and he really turns into a robust new role in his father's world that has endeared him to Donald Trump senior. And at the same time as building up Don Juniors Prance. So that's some pretty serious lemonade from Lemons. Yeah. And I think he decides he's going to try to make even more of it. So in early two, thousand, eighteen, he reads an article in politico commenting on his emergence and how he's become kind of a good presence for his dad on TV and there's a quote in the story from a guy, really young Republican operative named Andy's Arabian who had worked at a pretty low level and the trump twenty sixteen campaign and then worked for Steve Bannon in the White House before bannon flamed out and Arabian says something Nice about how Don Juniors like a good surrogate on behalf of his dad? So Don. Juniors. Never met Andy Sarabia but he reaches out and niece Arabian. He's like you know hey, I need someone to help me with my political stuff you want the job. And Sarabia and becomes you know his scary. And then around the same time that that happened, he also gets divorced from his wife. You know for twelve years you've been married to a Vanessa Hayden who'd been a model she's fairly a political. They had five children together in March two, thousand, eighteen they announced they're getting divorced, and then a few months after that Donald trump junior and fox news personality Kimberly Guilfoil or reportedly dating he goes public with his relationship with Kimberly, Guilfoil and Guilfoil at the time she was a Fox News commentator. Co Host of the Five K. regular supporter of the trump administration. Don, Jr. had a lot in common. Who've been circling around the trump White House for a while there have been discussion rumors that she was going to become trump's press secretary. She was seen at various events. She you know like a lot of Fox personality she was someone who seemed to kind of want into the white. House and you know in the summer of twenty eighteen, she gets into the White House by becoming don junior's girlfriend. As that fall. He's got to Arabian working for him. He's got guilfoil girlfriend and Don Jr. GonNa hit the road. All matter. To make sure that we get the vote out in West Virginia. He does something like seventy events in seventeen states stumping publican candidates raising money for them. Sick. He and Guilfoil oftentimes doing it together. They have kind of a duet. He got. please. Have A win. Guys. Anyone. One person referred to them as the sunny share of the Maga- movement. Very pumped excited many holding and he becomes a superstar ready to hear from. Donald trump sooner who I believe. As you can see, actually you'd look behind me he is now in the heiress matic for sure and their handsome young man for. Not really noticed before I guess. So yeah, he's really. All the trump family is for America and I can see trump junior being our next president. Republican candidates, Star pestering other Republican candidates who had done junior for them. They want Don Jr. Cell phone number they want to get a tweet from John. You're these guys are different speakers West. Virginia president won the state by four e becomes the most valuable surrogate and the Republican party after his father everybody wants his endorsement everybody wants them to sign their emails. He becomes this just this hot commodity. It sounds like Donald trump junior has become a star in the Republican Party Moose -ly by emulating his father's combative style. Yeah I, think that's definitely part of it but you know his father. kind of improvises with that combative style done junior is different he he's much more strategic and disciplined in terms of the way he fights and the fights he picks. You know in nine, thousand, nineteen I think there was a really good example of this. He wrote a book called triggered which goes on to be a huge bestseller because the RNC buys a lot of copies of it and sells it donors. But in the course of doing the publicity per triggered, his publisher wants to do some mainstream media. He was doing a lot of Fox, a lot of talk radio and they reach out to the view and they asked the view if they want to have them on. You and that's like going into the lion's den if you're if you're trying bray this liberal show and so don Jr. goes on the shy please. Welcome. The sound of the gentleman and the white. House. NJIT. And predictably. We heard the accessed tape where he bragged about grabbing women by their genitalia choice. Asked him about the access Hollywood Jay, how horrible toy even if people are working, we don't WanNa have a country like that. We've all we've all. Don Jr.. He is prepped for the show. He has operated I mean if we're talking about bringing a discourse down joy. You've worn black face whoopie. I'm site and. Allman Polanski. Rape Rape when he arrived a child so let's I'll take. So you WANNA bring this up and it just turns into a free-for-all. Lessening, my character I'm. Talking about your my father's care. And we? got insisted. So not only does he go in there trying to pick a fight with these liberal hosts? He's even more calculated. You know the one person on the view who he did not try to antagonize was making. McCain. The thing that Don Jr. and his advisors did not want to happen was they did not want this spectacle that they were creating on the view to turn into a spectacle for. Meghan. McCain to confront junior about all the horrible things Don Jr. bothered said about her father and so don Jr.. We can keep going back to character I. Think He. I understand. Differences I agree with that but actually almost apologize to Meghan McCain long. Senate your arm last night. So I do apologize for that. Eight dead. On thank you and that. Diffused the whole situation and headlines from that show were done junior attacking joy Behar Whoppi Goldberg, they were not Meghan McCain attacking him. So he did his homework whereas his father tends to shoot from the hip here we're seeing research and strategy. Yeah you you really see this online he's very much like a social media creature. I mean, he spends all the time in the world on his phone like looking at twitter looking at instagram. He's kind of steeped in these sort of conservative twitter accounts and conservative instagram. It gets all the memes but he smart in the way he deploys. Lamar a I, think maybe one of the best examples is earlier this year when his father delivered the State of the Union. Speaker. Mr Vice President members of Congress. The first of the United States. Nancy Pelosi tore up a copy of the speech she. Yeah for a few hours that became kind of a cause for celebration among liberals finally trump ended the speech and Nancy Pelosi did this. A perfect. Meal for Liberals. She ripped him anew one. Great Show for you tonight. But but. The next day Don Jr. was having lunch of course, the trump hotel in DC and he had this idea for a video to create a mean of the State of Union. And you know he himself can actually create videos but he knows people who can and one of them is a man named. Betty Johnson Johnson used to be a journalist. He was eventually trimmed out of the profession for plagiarism and all sorts of other offenses, but he's going to found a new career as a wing me maker works for group called Turning Point USA, which is a conservative group and Don Jr. called Ben Johnson with his idea for the state of the Union mean video he wanted to make. And Johnson took Don Juniors idea and he got to work a few hours. Later he had the video and Don Jr. posted to his twitter account. Charles is one of the last surviving Tuskegee airmen the first black fighter pilots and the video was highlights of the speech of the more benign parts of the speech. The nicer moments I can proudly announced tonight. That an opportunity scholarship has become available is going to you and you will soon be heading to the school of your choice and the video that Don Jr. idea foreign anti Johnson created took those moments and then spliced footage of Pelosi ripping up speech. Did at the end of the entire thing and so it looked like Pelosi was tearing apart. Tuskegee airman or Fourth grader this state of our union is stronger than ever before. According to Johnson this video got fifty million views, which is almost twice as many as people who actually watch the state of the Union on television. A very successful meme. Yeah. It turned out to be you know the perfect kind of Trumpian meam It occurs to me whether Donald Trump. Wins reelection or not that Don Jr. will have really distinguished himself in this campaign and thinking back to where this story started. The family business that DON Jr. rejected was real estate right? It was the kind of old line legacy trump family business, but the family's business now. Is Politics and media and culture wars, and he's not the black sheep of that is he's The star. So win or lose it does feel like Don Jr. is the air of this new version of the trump business. Yeah. Not only is he the air like he wants to be the air like he's positioned himself to be the air you know I think that Ah, von Goethe. She, obviously works in the White House but she I think plans to go back to New York and plans to go back to her old life. I don't know that's possible for but that's what she thinks is going to happen. You Know Eric Trump in running the trump organization he's going to keep doing that Don Jr. doesn't want to go back to New York is want to go back to the trump organization. He wants to stay in politics he wants to take what his father has built and use that as a platform for himself and he wants to keep on going I mean whether trump wins or loses this November Don Jr. is going to stay in politics. The Republican Party has become the party of trump brave, and the question now is what comes after trump? What is his influence on the party? What is his legacy? And I think there are probably some people out there who imagined that if trump were to lose this November, he would go away and trumpism would disappear I. Don't think that's going to happen and I think one of the reasons that won't happen to us I think Don Jr. Still GonNa be out there carrying that banner and he is really become his father's political air. Thank you very much. Appreciate. Thanks so much around man. We'll be right. Back. To. This podcast is supported by Qube the streaming service fresh original stories that unfolded minutes. 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Donkey Of The Day: Donald Trump Jr. On Kyle Rittenhouse, "We All Do Stupid Things At 17"

Donkey of the Day

05:50 min | Last month

Donkey Of The Day: Donald Trump Jr. On Kyle Rittenhouse, "We All Do Stupid Things At 17"

"The Breakfast Club pitchy donkey the day to day. Today for Thursday September tenth go Donald Trump Junior. Now, the son of Satan was on extra. X. Bachelorette Star Rachel Lindsay who asked why his father still having condemned cow written houses actions car written houses the seventeen year old young man who shot and killed two protesters with a Ar fifteen and Kenosha Wisconsin on August twenty fifth. Now Cower in houses white like sitting around discussing Adam Sandler movie career you know white like blasting of Jesse McCartney Song while driving white like us his spirit fingers white but then he's also dangerously white like Department of Homeland Security White Supremacist present the gravest terror threat to the United States white and he proved that in Kenosha when he decided to show America that he is indeed a member of Nila Isis now when Rachel Lindsay Ass Donald Trump Junior, why hasn't his father the president of the United States of America? You might know him celebrity and chief forty, five Donald J trump gosh I hope you're in the last days of me saying that but when asked Why he hasn't condemned cow Rittenhouse Donald trump junior said this with kyle rittenhouse coming across state lines and murdering two people and injuring another we're waiting for due process. We're not jumping to a conclusion if I put myself in Kyle Rittenhouse? Maybe I shouldn't have been there. He's a young kid I don't I don't want seventeen year olds running around the street where they are fifteen's maybe I wouldn't have put myself in that situation who knows but we all do stupid things that seventeen. But again I think we have a little constantly looking really stupid fine. But we all have to let that process play out and let due process take its course. Give me tell you something. It's levels the stupid okay. Don Juniors right when he said we all do stupid things at seventeen Hell my first criminal charges about seventeen with assault and battery with intent to kill point in presenting the firearm because I was sitting in the backseat while one of my homeboys shot at someone out to window. Okay. We all got charged because you know that whole no snitching nonsense but I understand the sentiment of doing stupid things at seventeen but then something just clicked in my brain just now that says no, it's a difference between doing. Something stupid and doing something criminal yes. They can both be synonymous but what cow Rittenhouse did was criminal when I got in trouble for at Seventeen was criminal but don Jr. made it seem like Carl Witton houses just participate in some Nice Rural Fund or him and his buddies got drunk and a little car surfing down a dirt road you seen white boys cost served doesn't one person would get on the top of the car and hold on dear life while someone else drive down the road trying to fish tailed him off that Stupi. Maybe, somewhat criminal but that stupid that's the kind of stupid stuff that young kids do donald trump junior makes it seem like car rittenhouse was just out cow tipping with French okay. Don't act like you know know how tipping is cow tipping is when people sneak up on any sleeping cow, they're standing up and push it over for entertainment. Okay now. That Is Stupid and Peter with his criminal, but it's stupid okay and the problem I have with this whole situation Donald trump junior is when a black person get shot by a police officer are member of Manila, Isis they don't get the same grace that Donald trump junior's giving cow rittenhouse. In fact, the first thing that happens is they pull up that person's criminal record. And whatever he or she has done in their paths, regardless of the age gets demonized and used as a reason as to why that person should have been killed or shot by police how come Don Jr. can say in regard the cow Rittenhouse we are waiting for due process they don't want to jump to any conclusions, but when it comes to be l. m.. R. Protesters protesting against police brutality are black victims of police shootings. That's exactly what they do. Okay. Jump to conclusions in don't give a damn about due process I. Tell your all the time you humans better start giving folks the grace you want God to give you. An moments like this are reminder that you have the capability to but you choose not to I. Wonder why? Well I'll take because cow written houses white for two hundred dollars, Don Jr., what you are doing, what you said is dangerous because killing to protest within fifteen is not a oh, he's just a kid moment are oh, boys will be boys are Oh we all did stupid things when we were young no, it can't be that because when you have that attitude just encourage more kids to do stupid. silly. Are Should we say dangerous? Violent but Nila Isis white supremacist things. Let's call it. What it is. Condemn it all don't condemn nothing you speak on liberal privilege. A book I actually planned to read by the way you speak on liberal privileged Don Jr. but you are showing why white privilege is truly the only Privi- privilege that matters to you. Please let Kathy. Griffin give, Donald trump junior the big please give this giant. Giro male Logan Hee. Haw. 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BONUS: The Bodybuilder, The Son, & The Turkish Plot

The Report

26:01 min | 1 year ago

BONUS: The Bodybuilder, The Son, & The Turkish Plot

"It's the fall of two thousand fifteen and a man named Dimitri clock of reaches out to Ivanka trump. He wants to offer Donald Trump what he calls political synergy eighty helping trump get close to Vladimir Putin clock ends up talking at length with trump's lawyer Michael Cohen who wants to use club to help with the trump teams efforts to build a tower in Moscow coen's conversations with clock never come to anything and they may be chalked up to just yet another instance of Russian outreach just to Donald Trump's world except there's a twist Dmitri clock of is a Russian energy executive with ties to the Kremlin the kind of person you'd think might offer Donald Trump political gross energy but the whole time Michael Cohen thinks he's talking to another Dmitri Cloak of if you won't be professional sportsmen do you must sometimes thank draining after SONA after Masa this Dimitri clock of is an Olympic medalist in a weightlifter with a popular Youtube Youtube Channel and when Cohen talks to the special counsel's office three years later he's apparently still under the impression he was speaking with the weightlifter rather than the former Kremlin aide aide. I'm fair's managing editor quench dressing and this is another bonus episode of the report. We've just finished volume one of our podcast podcast bringing to life Robert Muller's report on Russian election interference. We're hard at work on volume two. We'll have that ready for you soon but in the meantime we've put together some bonus episodes for you to enjoy Michael Cohen's confusion over the to Dmitry clock off says one of many strange loose ends in the Miller report little details that are weird confusing or just plain funny but volume. One of the report is two hundred pages long and seven podcast episodes just isn't enough space to cover it all so this week I sat down with my law fair colleagues to bring you our favourite tidbits of Muara Camera. The most interesting stories related to volume one that we weren't able to fit in the podcast so far we have stories of cryptocurrency mysterious grand jury activity and some of the very strange things Michael Flynn got up to while lobbying for the Turkish government. I here's offers chief operating officer David Priests on the role of Bitcoin gene. Yes bitcoin in the Miller report in volume one of the Mullahs report in its discussion of Russian hacking working and dumping operations there several tidbits about bitcoin that hint at things in the investigation and hint at things regarding future efforts and and future investigations reminder for the context here the Muller report describes how the Russian. Gru hacked the computers and email accounts of organizations employees and volunteers supporting the Clinton campaign including the email account of chairman John Podesta and how starting in April Two Thousand Sixteen the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the D triple c the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee or DNC in the details about how the G. R. U. Units targeted the Clinton campaign. The text of the report pulls back the curtain just a little bit on how the G. We are you purchased computer infrastructure used in its hacking operations it employed what it called a bitcoin mining operation to secure bitcoins. This is the first reference in the report to this decentralized crypto currency and like a few other parts of the text. It's frustrating because of reductions deductions the actual unit of the G are you doing the bitcoin mining and perhaps more is blocked out so as not to reveal an investigative technique so we find out in a footnote that someone or some group within that GRU unit kept its newly mined bitcoins in an account that that it says was on the Bitcoin Exchange Platform C. E. X. DOT CO that wasn't although Muller and his team also Oh found that unit two six one six five of the GRU used some of its bitcoin to help disseminate the hack materials so the Gr you started to plan the releases of documents stolen from the Clinton campaign and its supporters at least as early as April Nineteenth Twenty sixteen we know that because unit two six one six five used and anonymous service to register the domain DC leaks dot com and how did the Gr you you then pay for the registration. You guessed it a pool of bitcoin that it had mind about a week before using its bitcoins to registered. DC LEAKS DOT COM that same unit tried to register the website election leaks dot com using the same domain registration service and presumably would have used bitcoin to pay for it. We don't know in part because of another investigative technique redaction that's it that is the small footprint of Bitcoin in the Muller report but it's fascinating for two reasons I it's an example of the thorough and detailed nature nature of the investigatory work of the special counsel and his team they didn't leave many stones unturned instead they even looked under electronic anonymous sized stones but the GRU presumably thought that using Bitcoin to handle these transactions would give it a safe cutout would give it away to a non demise I the purchase of the computer infrastructure used in the hacking and then the acquisition of DC leaks dot com little did they know Oh that muller and his team would be able to drill down and find out anyway how they did so. That's what's redacted behind the investigative technique redaction second. It's a a preview of what's to come we have no reason to think that foreign interference in US elections or for that matter any number of US political and social matters is over and any such efforts seemed likely to rely on the perceived anonymous benefits of Bitcoin as David says the more report report is covered with tantalizing black reduction bars that often seem like they're hiding key pieces of information and some of the most tantalizing reductions may have to do with one one person in particular Donald Trump Junior. Here's Benjamin witness editor in chief of Law Fair who you've heard throughout this podcast is the voice of the Miller report on page one hundred seventeen of volume one there is a curious pattern pattern of information about Don Jr. and redaction of that information that pose an interesting question so let me just read you the relevant language this relates to the trump tower meeting and to his participation in it and the text of the report reads trump junior manafort and Kushner participated on the trump side while cover lada summer curnow a matching and Goldstone attended with vessel Nitsa the office spoke to every participant except Veselnitskaya and trump junior the the latter of whom declined to voluntarily interviewed by the office and then there is a two and a half line three line redaction that is marked grand jury as well as a subsequent reduction in the next paragraph of a little bit less than two lines that has also so marked grand jury so what we know here is that Don Jr. declined to be voluntarily interviewed by the office and and that the reason for or any further information about that decision not to voluntarily submit to an interview was redacted for grand jury reasons. It's hard to know exactly what to make of it on the fact that the redaction is a grand jury redaction and is significant however because normally if somebody refuses to give an interview what happens is you issue a grand jury subpoena so presumably that is either an explanation of what the grand jury did or how he responded to it or both I and one one possibility of course is that the grand jury did issue a subpoena which would be grand jury information that would have to be redacted but then of course the question is why wouldn't Donald Trump junior have given the interview in response to a grand jury subpoena and I can really only think of one possible answer to that question which which is that he may have asserted his Fifth Amendment rights not to incriminate himself I fall. I think it's an interesting puzzle question did John Don Jr. assert his fifth amendment. Amendment rights to the mall or investigation and declined declined to give information on that basis and there's there's just inherent I interest rest at least on my part and that question but the other thing is I do think the ultimate in ability of the investigation to hear from Don Jr. about that meeting is notable as it kind of leaves a hole in our understanding of of what that meeting involved and you know what Don Jr. was thinking beyond the text of his emails when he agreed to a agreed to meet with vessel knits guy and in order to receive dirt from the Russian Crown Prosecutor. One shouldn't assume he pleaded he he took the fifth that is an that is an inference that it is possible to draw from the tax but this is a redaction not a statement of what happened and and I don't know that that's what happened. I think the tax raises the question and that's a plausible answer to it secondly. Even if it is what happens you never are supposed to draw an inference about somebody's conduct by the assertion of their Fifth Amendment Rights there are a lot of reasons beyond around being guilty of crimes why people assert their Fifth Amendment rights I including that they're reasonably afraid of misunderstanding mm-hmm of of their conduct or vulnerability on other matters and so. I don't think it's ever a good idea to impute wrongdoing to somebody because because of an assertion of Fifth Amendment privilege if that's in fact what happened here but that's not all about Don Jr. here's loafers executive editor Susan Hennessy on what else the report suggests about the conduct of trump's son so there's been sort of a point of triage for a long time the we go all the way back to November twentieth seventeen its first reported that there are these messages that Donald trump junior exchanges with wiki leaks on twitter and it's widely known that wikileaks is really Julian assange and so if you're communicating with wikileaks via twitter in all likelihood you are speaking to Julian assange personally and and so when these twitter dams are are made public includes exchange which we did cover and one of the episodes in which wiki leaks gives donald trump junior the password password for a pack run anti trump site so Putin trump dot org and they say you know this this anti-trump side to launch you know we've guessed the password word and they say the Password is Putin trump so they send us John Junior and say look at the about page to see who is it's about and do you have any comment so they're basically telling him like we don't own this website. we've guest this password. Somehow and you know we're giving it to you and go go go log in and take two which Donald trump junior replies I oh I don't who it is but I'll ask around kind of sort of noncommittal but but interested so after that story was published there was a sort of question about whether or not Donald trump junior had had actually used the password because he doesn't tell wikileaks that you use the password. The reason why it's relevant is because had he used a password it would be a violation of a law known the computer fraud and Abuse Act which is commonly referred to as section ten thirty section ten thirty in the computer fraud and abuse act basically makes it a crime for anyone to you intentionally access a computer without authorization and then obtain information from a protected computer so a protected computer in short it is any computer that's connected to the Internet and authorized access essentially means accessible that the owner of the website specifically gave you so. This seems like a pretty clear cut case of if somebody tells you here's a website I've guessed the password or I stole the Password Right. They're not saying this is my website and I'm giving you access and can you use that password to log into the website. You are intentionally accessing a protected computer in a way that exceeds authorization because the fact that they've put a password on it means. They didn't didn't want people to access it unless they they had that password so this was sort of a question that was asked at the time and so then if you fast forward to April all twenty eighteen the Hippie the House intelligence community releases their Russia report so not only does it have the twitter dams between trump junior assange it also has the email that trump junior sends to the rest of the campaign in which he says guys. I got a weird twitter. Dm From wikileaks see you below. I tried the password and it works on the about section. They reference contains the next picks in terms of WHO's behind it not sure if this is anything but seems like it really is wikileaks asking me as I follow them and this is a DM and he goes on to sort of ask him into other questions so there is donald trump junior in black and white saying yes. The answer is I did use the house. Already literally says the words I tried the bathroom so when this sort of the hits you report came out you know the question was well as this is actually gonNA in a face charges for this I mean it's not often that people admit to all the elements of conspiracy and an email but donald trump junior decided to do exactly that so I don't think that there were that many people who thought he would really be indicted for that so computer fraud and abuse prosecutions for something like this are relatively terrible. They're not unheard of and just violating the CFA is a misdemeanor which is of course still serious except for if the information in question is worth more than five thousand dollars actually courts have been pretty expensive and how they define sort of how much this information might be worth and so it very well could be a felon people often end up violating the computer fraud and Abuse Act a felony. It happens more often than you might think so. What does this have to do with the actual muller the report the mode report comes out and Muller confirms? Everything both the reporting in the hips you report right. He describes the communication went on junior and wikileaks he describes. Is this email. We're done junior says he's using the password and so on and so then in this section on charging decisions everyone's like well obviously don. Jr. Didn't end up getting charged. there is this almost entirely reducted section so the unredacted part reads potential section ten thirty violation by redacted redacted and then the entire discussion except for sort of these two very brief flying or unredacted and so you know we can't be one thousand percent positive that this is donald trump junior because unlike for example Roger Stone where there are other court documents that confirm this we actually don't have some kind end of official attacks to reference and say this clearly about trump junior that said aids we can be pretty sure it's about Donald trump junior because it's describing a potential violation of the Computer Beautiful Abuse Act and it has these two little unredacted lines where they basically say look the intention of Congress was not for this law to reach mistaken inadvertent or careless access but instead intentional unauthorized access and then goes on to say that this computer likely would be protected computer so again a little bit of a weird analysis because this was intentional access he might not have intended to rake of Alaba. That's actually on element here. He intended to access this computer but but right obviously in circumstances in which I don't know he probably didn't know that this was a lot more sort of Don Jr. being a bonehead than genuinely militias. Although there are other examples of that I would argue in the report and then sort of the second unredacted chunk says applying the principles of Federal Prosecution. The office determines that a prosecution for this violation is essentially not warranted. They're saying that you know probe in deciding whether or not you're actually going to prosecute someone just because you've you have proof that they've committed a crime you need to consider the nature and seriousness of the offence or the person's individual culpability how much you know what the sentence entrance might be. They just say look under the circumstances. This isn't the kind of thing prosecutors really should be charging. I I think it's just an interesting fact or or or suggestion that essentially the mother report has the president's son dead to rights on violating. Oh and you know whether it's a misdemeanor whether it's a felony they have him writing all the elements here and they decided essentially to let them off the hook the like well you know he didn't really seem like what he was doing was that bad and so they basically decided to kind of turn a blind eye to it and so I just think it's a it's an interesting and revealing about actually how restrained muller was and whenever you see Donald Trump junior and donald trump senior you know attacking muller as sort of being biased an overreach you actually realize that no there were places in which he could have been far more aggressive that the criminal code certainly would have allowed him to do this and I remember this is the context in which he's exchanging information with the wikileaks about hacked emails and other context. I mean this is the larger context here is not entirely innocent in terms of what trump junior is up to but at the end of the day muller decides to let him off the hook on top of the reductions there are also a great many things that the Mola the report touches on briefly but doesn't address in depth. One of those things is the story of Michael Flynn's lobbying work for the government of Turkey Flynn of course was trump's national security adviser and later pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators about his contacts with Russia in that conduct became a key part of the Russian investigation but flings contacts with the Turkish government which Muller doesn't really focus on make for a wild story. Here's low-fare Senior Editor Scott Anderson so Michael Flynn left the Defense Intelligence Agency in two thousand fourteen and he does what a lot of these kind of former Marie generals do he starts late laterally into variety of kind of consulting gigs he goes and he gets a book deal. He started a company. That's called the Flynn Intel Group Refugee in two thousand fifteen he goes in this partner. A guy named Bijon Rifkin. edgy has kind of an ECLECTIC constellation of clients from ranging from foreign companies the Silicon Valley firms up to this point but in two thousand sixteen Mr Efficiencies Opportunity Opportunity coming out of Turkey in Turkey up to this point it had recently had in the summer of two thousand sixteen a kind of failed coup attempt against the current President Recep Tayyip aired on and the aired one government took the position that that Ku was the product of advocacy and conspiracy he being led by an individual named Fatullah Gulan and people who follow him are often called the Gulan movement or the Golan's Fatullah Gulan himself is is a Turkish Islamic scholar who has been involved in leading this kind of global civil society movement based kind of around his teachings and a variety of of more social principals and philosophical principles glut himself put himself into self-imposed exile in nineteen ninety nine and quickly settled in Pennsylvania where he's remained since around that time shortly after the time of the coup Rafiki and makes contact with Turkish Dutch businessman named Camille came out Tekken he owns a Dutch Corporation operation. That's called INOVA vivey Renaissance Novo BV after consulting with for Fijian approaches the Flynn Intel Group and offers them about bowed half million dollar contract five hundred thirty thousand dollars to conduct research and coordinate advocacy efforts related to Ghulam Movement they're not very open about author as late as two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen so this money lead Flynn and the Flynn Intel group to pursue kind of number of activities on behalf of Inova Flynn very notably rights and op Ed on election day in the hill a publication here in DC. It's red kind of by The Washington folks although not ah maybe as many people outside of Washington that really criticizes Gulan as something like an Islamic radical comparison to the Komeini in the nineteen seventies he's and really urges Americans to see the world from Turkey's perspective on this particular issue but perhaps the most troubling exceptional sort of activities ability that Flynn Flynn Intel group undertake is a series of meetings they have not just with Inova but will also with Turkish government officials the the first meeting takes place in September two thousand sixteen where Flynn Rafiki in and a few of their business associates sit down with Turkey's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of Energy to talk about the number of these sorts of activities that they've had going on on behalf of a Nova at least purportedly on behalf Minova one of the attendees at the meeting was another trump advisor and a board member for the Flynn Intel group former. CIA Director James Woolsey who later told reporters that at some point during that meeting the idea came up of potentially removing Gulan from the country and delivering him to Turkish custody the accounts of this particular conversation have been a little ambiguous about what precisely that meant in that context but bear in mind in September that this point they were not US government officials. It's not clear what legal avenues there necessarily pursuing here then there's a second meeting involving Flynn and his son Michael Flynn Junior in December two thousand sixteen at this point. It's after the Election Flynn knows that he's advising the future. President has inputs at this point may be aware that he's likely likely at least to get a position in the incoming administration if he's not even if it's not official yet and supposedly they have more detailed conversation about the plan to the point that there's a discussion discussion of a fifteen million dollars some being paid Flynn Intel Group for their involvement operation and the potential flying Gulan back on a private jet into into an area under Turkish control and sovereignty so that he can presently be arrested ended detained not the sort of steps usually associated with a conventional legal extradition process us. Certainly there's a number of criminal statutes that this would raise concern over depending on the context and the means you use to get Mr Gould on that plane that puts him back back Turkish control for you know this plan doesn't necessarily appear to have gone anywhere although again there are these continuing outstanding requests from Turkey regarding extradition mission casually and get discussed the number one thing that's most remarkable about all of this a lot of ways that president trump was expressly warned about Michael Flynn Day one I in his role as president in his first meeting with President Obama shortly after election day President Obama told him when discussing personnel issues shoes. You should be worried about Mike Flynn. Mike Flynn is not somebody you should be bring into your closest national conversations and I think that is revealing statement. about what a lot of the ways president trump is approached his staffing decisions both his time in government and his time running a campaign recruiting the various figures that we've been discussing as part of this Miller investigation. That's all for now now. Thank you for listening to this bonus episode of their report volume two of the report the launch later this September this podcast is made possible by the generous support port of the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation and the Democracy Fund and listeners like you to support this project. Please go to law fair blog dot com slash support dash off air. The report is a production by law fair and Goat Rodeo in Washington D. C. N. N. right is the executive producer from the l'affaire team. The project is led by Executive Editors Hennessy. The editor in chief is Benjamin wittes. I'm loafers. 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The GOP platform is enthusiastic support for Trump

The Daily 202's Big Idea

14:53 min | 2 months ago

The GOP platform is enthusiastic support for Trump

"Good Morning I'm James Holman from the Washington Post, and this is the daily two Oh to Tuesday August twenty fifth in today's news police use tear gas against hundreds protesting shooting Jacob Blake in Kenosha Wisconsin. The postmaster general says he won't. Restore The mail sorting machines disabled. And the FDA Commissioner owns up to making materially false statements about the effectiveness of convalescent. Plasma. The first? The big idea. A symphony of superlatives played loudly Monday on the opening night of the Republican. National Convention as Speaker After Speaker lavished praise on President Trump in spoke of him in mess ionic almost other worldly terms. They said he's a builder of visionary the richest man in the world The Guardian. Of America, and the bodyguard of Western civilization. Political. Parties typically adopt platforms at their conventions, every four years or titillating their policy priorities in core beliefs. But Republicans decided not to do that in twenty twenty instead the Republican National. Committee. Passed a one page resolution over the weekend stating simply that it quote enthusiastically supports president trump and the party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the president's America first agenda. In other words. The PARTY'S PLATFORM IS DONALD TRUMP If there were still any doubt that trump has thoroughly appropriated and consumed the Republican Party it was erased. Last night is Republicans kicked off their convention, the quadrennial showcase of republicanism begin. Instead this week is a celebration of trumpism a nationally televised high-definition pay on to a president known for his outsized ego and taste for the grandiose who is overwhelmingly popular in his own party underscoring trump's dominance of the. GOP. Is the absence of any of the parties previous presidential nominees Mitt Romney's not invited John McCain's longer live but his wife recorded a message for Joe Biden last week in. George. W. Bush also not participating the convention got underway as a number of traditional Republicans have come out against trump on Monday Democratic nominee Joe Biden's campaign announced the endorsement of more than two dozen former GOP lawmakers including former senator. Jeff Flake of Arizona meanwhile, miles Taylor a former top official in trump's department of homeland security launched a new group called repair forty, five through which current and former administration officials will work to defeat the president and published commentaries about. Taylor said he has at least two current trump administration officials helping effort behind the scenes. The. Quasi virtual convention is itself a trump production. The president is set to appear on each of the four nights of primetime programming concluding with his former acceptance speech Thursday from the South Lawn of the White House. Each night will also feature a keynote address by a member of the trump family starting with eldest son Don Jr. last night. Meanwhile one of the command centers were Republican. Officials are orchestrating the television production is set up in the trump hotel in Washington. The former reality TV star is taken a personal interest in programming's unconvincing to people familiar with the planning told Phil Rucker and Josh Dossey that trump wanted a large crowd for Thursday night address despite the raging pandemic. So there. Will be about a thousand people or so on the South Lawn Republican operatives say there's a risk inherent in their party centering the convention. So completely on trump doing so invites voters to see the election as a referendum on the president's job performance were party officials believe trump has a better chance of winning a second term if he can shift more attention. To Biden, and make the election choice. Some of the speakers last night made aggressive cases against Biden including DON Jr. but also Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina and former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley they painted the country under Biden's leadership as dangerous in Dystopia Republican officials. Say there were intense internal disputes among trump's advisors including jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law who wanted. A short platform that delineated the president's thoughts in a few key issues. There were other discussions over how to handle gay rights in the platform in aid said, there was also a lot of talk about how much the platform should get into foreign policy at the end of the day. There's one trump advisor said, thankfully, they just decided to avoid all that. Some of the speakers last night including Charlie Kirk young activists who opened the convention. Matt Gaetz. A Congressman from Florida have become gop celebrities of sorts in the trump era for their vociferous defenses of the president. Other speakers had deep appeal to loyal viewers of Fox News and other members of trump's base including mark and Patty mccloskey that Saint Louis couple who pointed guns at black lives matter demonstrators passing by their house. And now face a felony charge Kimberly Guilfoil, the former Fox personality who works on the trump campaign and is the girlfriend of Don. Jr. Gave a particularly fiery caffeinated intense whatever you WANNA call it address in which she excoriated rioters and human sex drug traffickers. Across, America, she cast her boyfriend's father as the nation's savior as she put it he emancipates and lifts you up. And that's the big idea. Here are three other headlines that should be on your radar this Tuesday number one. What started last night as a peaceful demonstration in Kenosha Wisconsin swiftly evolved into chaos Jacob Blake has survived surgery and his in serious condition after being shot by police in front of his kids as witnesses, he tried to leave after breaking up a domestic dispute. A few hundred demonstrators gathered in the square outside the Kenosha county courthouse around six thirty PM. The scene was peaceful. The crowd was chanting and holding signs. But then a citywide curfew neared and sheriff's deputies appeared in riot gear in line the sidewalk in front of the courthouse eight pm when the curfew begin. To military vehicles rolled to the corner of the square and police ordered the crowd to disperse immediately when the crowd didn't budge police unleashed tear gas. Then, some protesters hurled full water bottles toward the officers and set off firecrackers then. It Got Messier Blake's shooting will now be independently investigated. Thanks to a twenty fourteen law in Wisconsin. Instead of being investigated by the Police Department itself, Blake's case will be reviewed by the Wisconsin Department of Justice. The state passed that law after the two thousand, four death of Michael Bell Junior, a black man who was also shot by police in Kenosha, also in front of his wife and daughter. The law was championed by. The late Michael Bill Junior's father Mike Bell senior who was in the streets of downtown Kenosha last night holding a picture of his son and reliving his own tragedy. Thanks to that law Wisconsin became the first state in the country to require an independent investigation. Anytime, a police officer kill someone in the line of duty it was heralded at the time by police reform activists as a way to hold cops. But six years on bell and other reform advocates say the law still does not go far enough few investigations in the last five years of lead to any charges against officers who've killed members of the public. That's part of the rationale for why Wisconsin Governor Tony a Democrat is calling lawmakers back into a special session in Madison to take action on a package of bills about police brutality. Iverson's proposals would be in police choke holds no knock search warrants and make it harder for overly aggressive officers to just jump from one department to another the Republicans control the state legislature and they don't see eye to eye with Iverson criminal justice and they say those ideas are dead on arrival. Republican speaker. Robin. Boss said he's forming his own task force to look at police policies but said, it will typically. Take. Several months for a task force to develop any recommendations after the election he said. Number two. Louis. Destroy the billionaire GOP mega donor who trump installed atop the postal service in June told the House oversight committee during a contentious six hour hearing on Monday that the US Postal Service will not undo many of the cost cutting maneuvers that he instituted earlier in the summer. Even as joy repeated his promise to restore mail processing capacity before the November election. Joyce said that nearly seven hundred high-speed mail sorting machines that he had removed across the country since taking over will not be reinstalled neither he said we'll dozens of blue collection boxes that have been ripped up around the country last month the joy mandated that US mail trucks that transport mail from processing facilities to distribution centres must adhere to stricter schedules leaving behind if they're running late or if it's yet to be sorted. Plus mail gets sorted when you take away the sorting machines. To joy also ordered that mail handlers depart for their routes sooner even if male hadn't arrived for them to deliver. These moves and others according to dozens of agency employees who talked to us in postal experts are causing multi-day delays in localities across the country. They've ensnared ballots, midsummer primary contests. They've caused food to rot inside packages in Los. Angeles and they've deprived residents in. Poor parts of Philadelphia getting any male at all for weeks at a time. there. Are Lots of stories of egregious slowdowns like this. Do Joy told Congressman Gerry Connolly a Democrat from Virginia that he is contacted people close to trump and the reelection campaign to ask the president stopped discussing the postal service because it's making it harder for him to advance their shared agenda from the inside Jim Cooper Congressman from Tennessee joy of his backup plan. If all this goes south is to get pardoned like Roger Stone for implementing trump's agenda. Joy declined to answer one way or another Debbie Wasserman Schultz Congressman from Florida noted that there are several machines at the postal processing plants in her district that postal workers have told her need to be restored to improve delivery times. During the hearing, she showed a picture of one machine with its power cord literally dangling from the ceiling. She asked would joy let plant managers plug that machine back in Since they say that that's what's needed. That's what would speed up delivery of prescription drugs for seniors in her district. He answered bluntly no. Congresswoman Katie Porter from California asked the joy if he knew the price of routine postage items He didn't. He could name the price of a first class stamp which costs fifty five cents and the weight limit for priority mail seventy pounds. Congresswoman Alexandria Cossio Cortez from new. York asked to joy to provide the committee access to calendar from the date. When he started his postmaster general he balked at that requested he doesn't Wanna a precedent for his calendar needing to be turned over. Cossio told him that now that he works for the Postal Service, the counters, a public record and she said the committee may soon subpoena. Number three. The assertion was breathtaking at of one hundred people who suffered from the illness caused by the novel coronavirus thirty five were saved by the injection of. which plasma from people who had survived the disease? That is how FDA Commissioner Steven Hahn described the blood products effectiveness on. Sunday during a news conference at the White House at which trump announced the agency was authorizing the use of that plasma on an emergency basis to treat covid nineteen. But that thirty, five out of one hundred claim was not accurate the FDA commissioner. former cancer doctor who trump appointed into the job mixed up absolute risk and relative risk, which are basic concepts in economics, and in the presentation of data from clinical trials peer luria former top FDA officials. Now, the president of the Center for Science and the public interest said he was absolutely incredulous and blown away that FDA commissioner could make that kind of a mistake. Last. Night Han acknowledged in a tweet that he misspoke during the news briefing about the findings of the convalescent plasma study and he said the criticism that he's facing from the medical community is quote entirely justified Finally let me close today with two glimmers of hope tropical. Storm Marco missed. Louisiana, and Texas. Marco was the first of what was going to be a double hurricane threat to the Gulf coast this week. But thankfully, it fell apart Monday as it neared Louisiana sparing the region for few days at least Louisiana in Texas of now. Tropical Storm Aura which poses a serious threat to both states as it turns northwest through the exceptionally warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico computer models suggest that Laura will intensify into a large and dangerous hurricane before making landfall late Wednesday, or early Thursday somewhere between New Orleans Corpus Christi. Barring a major change Laura could smash into the coast with sustained winds of more than one hundred miles an hour but we'll take what we can get in two, Thousand Twenty and Marco's abatement was particularly appreciated during a trying time in New Orleans with any need to evacuate complicated by the coronavirus. And in California firefighters are making some progress and corralling two of the biggest wildfires in that state's history as temperatures cooled and wins calmed over the weekend firefighters gained ground on the Ellen new lightning complex fire, which has been burning across the fatigued wine country north of San Francisco and the Scu lightning complex, which has been threatening the eastern outskirts of San, Jose and cities as far south as Gilroy. But forecasts had predicted a new round of so-called dry lightning thunderstorms that produce little if any rain but a lot electricity luckily by mid afternoon Monday, those storm cells had blown past the bay area harmlessly and the national weather. Services now canceled its red flag fire warning for the region. But the good people of the Golden State not out of the woods and they remain in our thoughts and prayers. These are still the second and third largest fires in terms of acreage and California's history and firefighters from across the state as well as the National Guard have been stretched thin by the number of blazes, which it must be noted come well before the traditional peak of the fire season in the state which comes usually. In the fall. And that's the daily to to, for Tuesday August twenty fifth thanks for listening and James Holman I'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Ep. 33: EMERGENCY PODCAST SYSTEM  The Senate Has Seceded From The Union

RUMBLE with MICHAEL MOORE

10:21 min | 9 months ago

Ep. 33: EMERGENCY PODCAST SYSTEM The Senate Has Seceded From The Union

"In this is the second day in a row where we've had to put together a special emergency podcast system episode of rumble with Michael Moore. I'm Michael Moore. Thank you for listening to this today. The US Senate seceded from the country today the US Senate on it seceded from the union the US Senate broke away. From the United States of America they denounced our constitution. They disobeyed their oath at four forty one. PM Eastern time the US Senate voted to let Donald Trump off after he had tried to bribe an extort the president of a foreign country to help him fix our twenty two thousand election the Senate on the two counts. They voted fifty to forty eight. Not Guilty on count number one. The abuse of power count and account number to the abuse of Congress US charge. They voted fifty three to forty seven in favor of trump. Being not guilty in doing so they decided to say that the president of the United States had the power to break the law whenever he chose they even many of them admitted that what he did was wrong but nonetheless was not reason to remove him from power an instantly made all of us much less safe the US Senate has seceded from the country. The Republicans ends in the Senate with the exception of Mitt Romney from Utah declared war on the rest of us one by one they stood and yelled not guilty when he was exactly guilty of everything and more that he was charged with the last time Heim elected American officials declared that the president could commit treason was when the senator from the southern states elected their own president. President formed their own constitution for the confederate states of America and elected Jefferson Davis in a blatant act of treason today. These Republicans allowed Donald Trump to commit his act of treason his act to try to to impact our election and it was. I Made Myself Watch it on television this afternoon. Maybe in part because I couldn't didn't believe it I couldn't I couldn't believe that even these Republican senators they know right from wrong they have a conscience and yet they stood with the traitor. They said we're going to ignore the constitution. We're going to forget that we took the oath of office office and now we are in a very dark moment. They've given the president a free pass to commit whatever crimes of his is choosing. So here's what's going to happen. Trump is a recidivist. He's a serial con man a serial rapist. I A serial abuser of employees. A serial liar an on and on and on he will take the Senate's vote of not guilty today today. Ask permission to keep breaking the law but in ways I promise you in ways that will shock even you and me and in doing so he will frighten the entire country finally to act what the next floor will tell Alice. I'm it it will send the nation into a tailspin. You think bribery and extortion of the president. The Ukraine was as bad as it could get. This will look like playschool compared to what he's going to do now. Mark my words that extortion phone call with Ukrainian president was the day after the more hearing. Let trump off the hook. He was so giddy so excited excited. He knew he could do what he was doing. Putting the screws to the president of Ukraine. I can guarantee you as sure sure I can promise you that Eric. Don Jr. are right now carving up an African lion that Donald J trump has already committed a new felony. And we'll commit a second one before the end of coal bears monologue tonight. He did more than this Ukrainian qualities I three years. You know it you. He said and did things that were so illegal. So abusive of his office and his people loyal to them in the White House. Had the Hyde what he's done in these three years on that secret server or they hit the Ukrainian phone call that the whistle blower in only the whistle blower told Louis about without the whistleblower. We none of this. We wouldn't even know that server existed and we all know he didn't just do this once in these first three years. Well tell you what he's going to be doing a lot more of it and they probably won't be so worried about having to hide it so much the same so get ready folks. There's going to be a crime spree a- crime sphere crimewave trump crimewave. Now we won't know about most of it but there will be other whistleblowers there will be people of conscience who will just say. I can't take this anymore. I have to tell somebody that's what's going to happen. There will will be another whistleblower and when you hear the next thing he's done I know we're all GonNa feel like Oh my God. We can't go through impeachment again we may have to and it should be quick quick and painless make this Senate stand up a second or third or fourth time and say yes. Yes I am behind the criminal I am behind the extortionist. I am behind the trader. Yes me and let's see what happens to for them. Come November this will have a good ending but it will not be good on the way there so get ready for the fight. Trump will not go easily. We can win. We can succeed but it will only happen when we make it happen. It won't happen by by hitting Wyche on our facebook or the heart on our instagram. We're going to have to take to the streets nonviolently. We're going to have to surround the White House. We're going to have to surround the Republican Party headquarters we're going to have to do whatever weekend with nonviolence remember we are the majority the majority of Americans agree with us. They agree with us on trump's crimes. They agree with us on impeachment. The agree with us on every issue as I tell you in virtually every other podcast that we are not alone in this we are the majority and the way we're going into win between now and November is we're going to activate the hundred and ten million people who are non voters. We won't get all of them. The vote we being not even get half for the DIVO- but if we could get a few million of them in you know who they are there in your family there in your neighborhood there at your workplace. They're good people. They're just sick and tired of the whole stinky stink mouse and they gave up and they don't Wanna participate anymore will give them a reason to participate on election day. I'm primary day on the primers that are happening right now. Action Action we must take action. We we have no choice at this point. You know that and you can't just say I'm just so tired of all this. I'm so tired of it. It was so difficult to sit there watching the state of the Union last night putting a medal of freedom on the man who invented hate radio. Who helped bring us to this ugly ugly point? We're at rush limbaugh. But at the end how invigorated were you. How much did you feel like? Yes yes. That's exactly how oh I feel. Yes Nancy Pelosi. That's what she did. The WHO speech just like that and then threw it down on the desk behind. Signed him because she's a bad ass and we all have to be bad as right now. This is our country this is not the country of these Republicans senators who they themselves in essence broke the water they because they broke our constitution by standing with trump. Do not despair there are millions and millions more of us but it will not be our country unless we stand up for. Thank you for listening to this. Emergency podcast system episode of rumble with Michael Moore. I am Michael Moore and I'm GONNA do my damndest. I promise you that promise meal will participate in even the smallest ways you love this country. You love the people in and you love this planet. I know you do action now.

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The Full Nixon.

Pod Save America

1:00:55 hr | 2 years ago

The Full Nixon.

"The presenting sponsor pod Save America is Ziprecruiter who's the scripted one so let's talk hiring let's talk hiring John Crooked has grown fast recently hired Juliet our new operations Assistant Ziprecruiter we've talked about this now a couple times a couple times so we brought her in today we didn't C. R. O. K. E. D. why did you get the rest of my lines crooked welcome to Pod Save America I'm John last night that'll be out soon we also there's a great show out this from this weekend we had Paul Scheer we had Seru Jayaraman and we had Amanda Seals and and elsewhere and they are doing it was fascinating I learned a lot from her really great episode so check it out I hear you didn't have the guts to tell them that phillies sports fans your job. If you're hiring just go to this website ziprecruiter dot com slash crooked try ziprecruiter for free and we get credit for sending you that ziprecruiter dot com slash crooked ziprecruiter dot com slash. Oh I'll take a chance on something called Ziprecruiter and the next thing I know I'm living in Los Angeles following my dreams working for a couple of great guys nothing would juliette sounds like couple of great guys I like Tommy I really like that Jon favreau fellow but I'll tell you you know the somebody who were so nice so easy to work with not demanding definitely doesn't make me get coq sometimes is John Love it what a Guy Ziprecruiter makes finding qualified candidates easy they're powerful matching technology scans thousands of resumes to find the right person for China on the pod very exciting she's great love it you're here fresh from Philadelphia where you were last night we had an awesome love it or leave it in Philadelphia last really funny Seru is Labor activists and she's was talking about how tipping works and the workers and the way they're organizing workers across the country especially in places like Michigan because I had just spent five minutes attacking them for various other sports related issues like picking up poop off the ground and eating it after the Eagles the second experience of why you Krizner job was pretty extraordinary because I I I went online and it was hard to do and then I said Oh ziprecruiter here we go one more public service announcement here. PSA PSA California voter registration deadline is today if you have voted already and you're hearing this pod it really kick off the show having two thousand Philadelphia maniacs yelling at you look out for nine volts so recording spring day early which means they'll be plenty of news breaks today just stomp on the episode but it'll be out early that's exciting today in the Pod we're going to be talking about the latest mm-hmm specially among young voters and then we will be talking about the school shooting in Santa Fe Texas with the founder of MOMS demand action for gun since Shannon Watts finally get in at the end of the day I guess please fucking registered to vote if you're in California it's very important be a registered voter okay I all we know that a month later a month after that meeting Don Jr. had another meeting in trump tower with another group of foreign agents who also offered its interfere order in the trump investigation and muller is looking into the whole meeting guys would you think of this story one quick note mm fabric I'm John Lovett. I'm Tom Maybe we are here in New York City is not exciting windy city really nice very nice how Beautiful Day in New York City in the trump investigation but the crimes and the cover up you WanNa get both of those things in there we'll be talking about the political landscape heading into the midterms particularly democratic versus Republican enthusiasm so we all remember when rush officials close to Putin offered dirt on Hillary Clinton done junior don Jr. doesn't remember it released under oath he eagerly start with the reports of new potential crimes involving Donald Trump that the New York Times broke over the weekend seems like ancient history now but it was just Saturday I believe is literally leads a private army he's a mercenary who who's Blackwater Company led to such unbelievable problems than accepted meeting with them that was held with Jared Kushner Paul Manafort and trump tower on July twenty sixteen the topic of which his father then lied to the country about well now emerets as well as an enriched as well as an Israeli who basically sells social media manipulation for a living an offer to do so for the trump campaign the New York Times Don Jr. is obviously a moron but he's like valuable trump family surrogate so he should have been out stumping or whatever but instead he was accepting a meeting where in our election in order to help trump win this time the meeting was set up by warmer scenario Eric Prints with an emissary to the Prince of Saudi Arabia in the United Arab he might have won the super bowl the only time will ever be rooted for by the country these are all things I did and I felt some Brittleness the crowd I was reading the room okay trump campaign officials did not appear bothered by the idea of cooperation with no she'll kidding no shit it's I don't even bother I mean like I think Dan made this point last week about when the Gore campaign was sent Bush briefing book the only answer to getting is meeting in August before an election it speaks to their desperation it speaks to the fact that it was serious and they really wanted help in whatever form was being offered massive amounts of money were being floated to Manipur election and two million dollars got paid to this is rarely firm for we don't know what we do not know what a he's he's meeting with the Russians he's putting together a rag tag team to steal American democracy and you know what Don during your yeah your cleanliness the done junior approved of all of this though he denies that in a statement and the emissary that helped set up the meeting George Nader is now cooperating with me but Saudi Arabia in the UAE want to help donald trump what was their motivation. I think it's a few there's probably a few pieces of it herbs spring they view that as a direct threat to their power because all of these places are like one spark away from igniting and so you know my speculation tation stance toward Iran towards the Muslim Brotherhood They hated Obama for standing with the protesters during the Dan. I mean it's just fucking believable another reason this meeting ends up being important is that we also find out that during the transition just sort of normalized relations between the US in the West with Iran and to bring them into the community but it's also broader like they have a deeply conference this kind of offer come into you is to refer to the FBI that's the only appropriate response because it's illegal to accept foreign money and support to win election it's also just crazy to take the you know what also I mean it's also bad it's like a bad like a not believable villain Eric Prince they all hated the Iran deal and Hillary Clinton obviously was part of the team to negotiate Iran deal stick to it they despise it and they despise any effort at least these people who are you know autocratic rulers of Middle Eastern countries meeting with the campaign whose primary policy proposal was a Muslim provide a lot of security in war zones. That's not that abnormal but I mean his is like shot up an intersection did a whole bunch of really bad things in Iraq that led to and Eric Prince then sense up sets up that meeting in the Seychelles with George Nader in Russian oligarch to try to doc it's it's unconscionable that this person what they do just for people who don't know they're like private military contracting force so they they you know there's private military contractors and then he also visited Moscow twice during the campaign and he arranged the Seychelles meeting but they didn't they didn't push these people out who came to them with this crazy suggestion they brought them in they met with them more and more and jared Kushner meeting with him and Eric Prints during the transition and they got really close and then it looks like Eric Prince lied about it under oath when he set up a back channel communication between the trump people and Putin right which is like so there's of course there's a Russian Miss Challenges for the United States government that deal with in like how did you get involved with the trump crew what who are these fucking people find each other I mean he's he sisters Betsy Devos so he is I assume presents like he was there I guess he was in the campaign I it all started as a party hosted by Mark Penn is this is a very serious story instead of issues but it's so funny that trump tweeted that it was a long and boring story like that's just funny to them it's so funny Hugh Billion Dollars to send a private army Yemen I mean these are like billionaires intervening in major foreign policy challenges and it's and it's a group of is that they just decided to go all in for the guy who loves authoritarian dictators because he basically is one Q. Not to mention the hypocrisy of these a favorite quote the real the only real quote you need to know from the whole piece in because as Donald Trump said it was too long for him to read is this to people familiar with the meeting said that the only reason it doesn't get more play is because obsequious with the Russians so she's what a coincidence that a bunch of Authoritarians all around the world saw one of their own also looking into I think all of us off three of us have sort of you know slowly gotten brought into the conspiracy and being to believe the craziest you've unscrupulous neophytes being taken advantage of by countries and an entities and people who have long stemming motivations and interests that they've used it's a very shitty remake of Ocean's eleven you know what's go going from like there's like you know Don Juniors hitting the road he's meeting with the US the base for your up in the hill you fucking asshole where who's paying for that Tommy why these Middle Eastern countries I don't even honestly I'm save yourself the time you will fall asleep my summary is more I'm boring even telling you it's board each other or they only connected by virtue of the fact that you had multiple people kind of just running individual scams and trying to bring them to donald trump like you see these transcripts to do is either not know or not care about the rules and when you're this desperate they the entire world including Donald Trump in his family and everyone in the campaign thought that he was going to lose they are very stupid but you don't need to be super bright to be taken advantage of by all these corrupt goons all around the world that are offered trump as someone who can be as someone who could be vehicle for them which is what's turned out to be true I mean we see the way that that trump has been so obsequious to the Saudis during during his his time in office are Boston Sports Hands Without the rings why I thought you were a straight shooter responded on on both sides who gave you that line what happened Edu up and you just didn't knock it down. I read stirring up you see all these people show up in multiple places and it's hard to know are these are these are these meetings connected to connection to also George Nader who was in this meeting went to Russia twice during the two thousand six campaign to campaign to meet with Russian government officials to which Muller's kinds of crimes and improper acts and decisions but they don't have to be there isn't it to be a document where it was like step one gives the Saudis on board before the House Intelligence Committee I mean that looks like yeah it looks like it's anyone who just read the transcript so a lot of people are not being straightforward about basic facts art among the pundits set in Washington once in a while which is the trump people were too stupid and disorganized to collude disagree I think this is bullshit I agree of course theories but like you I read this story yesterday on the on the plane and like they're just so many pieces of this like you were saying it's like nater was representing these Arab leaders overwhelmingly this point so they were desperate and that's what makes us so they bring us guys in and they accept crazy harebrained ideas and then they think well if we lose there's no scrutiny anyway so it's to not get caught which they're getting caught right now playing by the rules requires being smart and diligent and sophisticated not playing by the rules all you need problem is globalised. Corruption and at the center of the Global Corruption is the trump organization guys hacked elections Saudi Princes Kevin Militia Forces like boring snooze alert. Oh my God out of here so there's a few other other crimes last week and and so you see people pop up in multiple places and you're not sure if the strings connect horizontally they only connect vertically in the map of strings I making ah these are people all out out there operating to try to bring him good news to try to bring him things that can help look what I did look what I made because not a real organization it is like a crime organization possibly about to become pressing I'd states and decided that they wanted to help him out I mean I'm really I want to do with this other theory too that you hear you don't hear it on the right but oh flagrant in committing all these potential crimes and they don't all need to fit together into one master plan these are Tunis things the special counsel team issued subpoenas to different people close to Roger Stone who had advanced knowledge of hacked emails in the face of all this Roger Stone mmediately spelling out some evidence of collusion but I'm sorry you're scummy businessman Roger Stone this is not anyone's fault but yours none up meetings connections beget connections and they they take meetings to take another meeting they go here they go they're they're trying they're trying that all of these things add up to multiple sir reports of conversations between like Michael Cohen and Nater and others in it's always like I can't bring this to the boss and you know it's it's John Juniors the same way you feel that win on NBC's Meet the press on Sunday told Chuck Todd he is prepared to be indicted by Robert Muller that's good for him but he ended up well when asked about the story he's at this is why focusing only on Russian interference misses the real story which is that the trump campaign would take money and support from anywhere the real in my head but it's like these strings connect to the worst case scenario this is not just like Don Jr. making a couple extra million nater was trying to get the Saudis to pay it's a relationship and there's money in it for Easter and yeah it's weren't they weren't thinking that they were going to the White House they were thinking that they were GonNa lose the Donald He's like this into the into the alternative facts Kellyanne Conway Lexicon of just perfect I mean extremists crimes none of these guys cared when investigation added he thinks it's not inconceivable that Muller and his team would conjure up some extraneous crimes pertaining to his business so trump would behead of this movement now and he'd make a lot of money out of it and when you think about that and you realize that they they didn't expect to win it starts making sense why they were during obstruction of justice perjury wire fraud bank fraud all these things they may have hey it wasn't collusion so it doesn't count as a crime this is the new now it's starting with Rodger stone but I guarantee this is going to spread to Donald Trump and the rest of the trump crew by the end of this whole thing is 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I've been trying to do this for quite a while now but for tweet last night Sunday night was quote I hereby demand which is everyone knows how you issue a president I mean we have to start to say this again just go through the fax calmly here because they have Republicans in the House and Donald Trump and Fox News got drunk in London and told an Australian ambassador they had heard from a Russian that the Russian government hacked and stolen democratic emails which we know it was true and then pop lied about this later to federal investigators which is why now he's a cooperating witness with Muller and his pled guilty yeah that is how you have coffee essentially with trump campaign staffers like Popadopoulos to see if you can get them to talk about evidence of collusion with the Russians that is about an ongoing investigation talked about reopening the investigation sank her campaign by publicly talking about the fact that she was under investigation or that the campaign was under investigation days before the election so all of this boils down to a claim by Republicans that the FBI was biased against Donald trump is to report something that was totally untrue that there was no connection do they view as being a connection to Russia or collusion at the same time the F. B. as have been trying to tell us now for a full year that the muller that the investigation into Donald Trump was started for political purposes by Obama as the FBI protected Donald Trump and basically Tonya harding to Hillary Clinton in the days before the election if anyone anyone in the FBI or Obama's Department of Justice or anyone wanted to sabotage donald trump's campaign it would have it would have required a sin that is how this and there's a whole bunch of other strands of intelligence that led the CIA the FBI and now by everyone agrees that Russia interfered I was publicly declaring that they were actively investigating the Clinton campaign and Hillary Clinton and they had had the they released a bunch of information scary on Sunday the President I it states that he'll be teaming up with House Republicans to sabotage the investigation into his misconduct and potentially his own crimes of course oh call to a single reporter revealing that they were surveilling that they were looking at the trump campaign that they thought that there was Russian interference that there was going to be insight and it's happening on twitter again and there's this right wing media ecosystem that just sort of goes along with anything Donald Trump says and I have not figured out more broadly like the press corps generally Washington in general how to deal with this kind of abuse of power in plain sight again like there's something nefarious in these stories and like he has no choice but to demand action but this is this is the Saturday night massacre in in in the Fox people and trump have tried to dream up about why this was some sabotage with the trump campaign and

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March 5, 2019: Hour 1

"This message comes from here. And now sponsor indeed if you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash NPR podcast from NPR WBU are Robin young. I'm Jeremy Hobson it's here. Now, let's start this hour with that bombshell journal article that claims a man in London is now free of HIV after getting a stem cell transplant. He's only the second person in history ever reported to have been cleared of the virus. I'm not using the word cure because the scientists who did the study aren't either it's published today in the journal nature and joining us now is Dr Anthony Fauci director of the National Institute of allergy and infectious diseases, Dr fatty thanks for joining us good to be with you. Now, first of all this was a bone marrow transplant the patient also had cancer. And now, the scientists who did the study, and you're not one of them just to be clear say he is. Is in long term remission. Would you call it a cure? No, I don't think you can call it a cure. And I think we have to be careful and circumspect in how we put this into perspective the person needed a bone marrow transplant because he had an underlying neoplastic disease Hodgkin's disease. So what happened is that? They gave a transplantation from a donor who had a genetic defect that made him protected from HIV. So about one percent of the Caucasian population has a genetic profile that makes them refractory to getting infected. So when they transplanted the person who had the lymphoma, the Hodgkin's disease with that marrow from the donor now, the person had cells that were refractory which allowed now the virus not to be able to replicate in that person. So right now, you could say the person is in remission and could park. Probably be cured. The only thing we have to be careful about that. We don't feel that. This is something that could be scalable or extrapolate -able to the millions and millions of people who are infected with HIV, but can easily be controlled with a single pill a day this person needed the transplant for his cancer. Whereas if you don't have a cancer, this is a very risky procedure. Anything like a bone marrow transplant with all the suppression. And other things that go on with that is something that's risky, and certainly not scalable. So I just wanna make sure we put that into perspective when we say that this is a big important finding of a second cure now in so many years that we've been trying so what is the significance of this finding? How will what just happen be used? As researchers try to find a cure for HIV. You know, what it is years ago? A person called the Birla. Lynn patient. Timothy Brown did have the same thing and was shown to be now free of HIV, the the importance of this is more of a proof of concept, and the concept is that there's a certain receptor that people have on their cells that the virus binds to and allows it self to infect the person and replicated in a person when they did the transplant with someone who had a genetic defect and did not have this particular receptor. It just proves that if somehow or other in a much less dramatic and Coney in way, we can modify this particular receptor that's on the cell. We may be able to then get people to be essentially refractory to further replication, but doing it with a bone marrow transplant in a lot of people is just not feasible. So it's more of a proof of concept of the mechanism as opposed to something that we could now widely utilize. Among the many, many HIV infected people will and going back to what you said a moment ago. This is not scalable, but people at this point who are infected with HIV rely on a pill a day, in many cases to treat it. Where are we right now in treatment of HIV in general, I in in this country and around the world. Yeah. Well, in general treatment is been spectacularly successful. And they really that's one of the reasons why I emphasize the putting this into context today in two thousand nineteen if you have an HIV infected individual, which I take care of all the time, and you put them on a single pill that contains a combination of three drugs in the overwhelming majority of people, you could bring down the level of virus to below detectable level, which does too important things it saves the life of the individual and allows them to lead essentially almost a normal life with almost a normal life. Fan. But importantly, it also makes it virtually impossible for that person to transmit the infection to this sexual partner because you suppress the virus to such a low level. The person becomes untranslatable that has important implications for the prevention of further HIV infection. So it's really a twofer. It's good for the treatment for the individual. But it is a major impact in stopping the transmission of infection. So treatment is really right now in our day and age really come a very long way and his highly successful. That is Dr Anthony fat. She the director of the National Institute of allergy and infectious diseases, Dr Chee, thank you so much. It's good to be with you. Now what to make a reporter Jiang? Mayors lengthy expose of the relationship between Fox News and the Trump White House. The closest we've come to having state TV according to presidential historian, Nicole Hemmer. The article included. The multi source claimed that before the two thousand sixteen election FOX killed its own reporters story of stormy Daniels hush money payment, and this was long before the Wall Street Journal broke that story after the election that President Trump tried to pressure. The Justice department into blocking a media merger just to spite CNN and that Fox News CEO. Roger Ailes tipped off Trump about questions in the two thousand fifteen debate. Dylan Byers is senior media reporter for NBC and MSNBC. Dylan, welcome thank you for having me. And look we know that the Trump administration is cozy with Fox News. It had been reported before that Sean Hannity calls the president every night after his show. He have Bill shine the former FOX executive who's now director of communications, the president recently tried to appoint a former FOX reporter Heather Nauert who'd been at the communications department of the State Department tried to appoint her embassador to the UN is this really new. Well, there's a lot in this report that will be familiar to folks who have followed the relationship between the Trump administration and Fox News, and there's a lot in here that sort of falls into the category of offensive to liberal sensibility. Offensive to are sort of twentieth century understanding of the responsibility, and and the expected integrity of any organization that branded itself as news now all that said amid that there are actually some very significant revelations here most notably the revelation that President Trump ordered his chief economic advisor Gary Cohn to pressure the Justice department into blocking AT and T's acquisition of Time Warner. And so what you see in. This report really is this sort of incredible return on invest. -ment that Rupert Murdoch God from creating the Fox News channel more than twenty years ago. So in the case of the AT and T Time Warner potential merger. CNN would have been involved in that it was said that Trump was trying to you know, spite CNN meanwhile shortly after there was a merger that involved FOX that sailed through. But, you know, this falls into we start falling into the, you know, people thought that Trump had had a hand in this. Is there any criminal result or legal action? Because maybe we have more proof that he did. Well, so the reporting here from Jane Mayer about Trump specifically ordering Gary Cohn to have the Justice department block, the AT and T takeover of Time Warner that to me is if not an invitation to a legal investigation, it is an invitation to an investigation by democratic lawmakers. Can't ignore the context in which this. Jane Mayer report happens it happens right on the heels of Democrats finally having some leverage in congress. Now, you know mayor's report is based off of one well placed source that alone is not, you know, grounds for for anything other than a democratic investigation. But a democratic investigation into an attempt to sort of influence regulation of mergers and acquisitions could be quite significant. I think it gives the Democrats more fodder for those investing reporting that FOX killed its own reporter story about the hush money payments to stormy Daniels. This was in the run-up to the election. And according to mayors reporting this reporter went to several editors and one said to her something like good reporting Kitto, but Rupert Murdoch wants Trump to win. So we're shelving it, and she tried to get it aired again after the Wall Street Journal after the election came out with its reporting and couldn't hiding story. Right. And so this. To me is there's some gray area. Here. It is a offensive. It is arguably unethical. It's arguably a moral. Does it does it? Does it become a legal matter? I think it's a little bit more difficult to to get that one. The same probably applies to her reporting that Roger Ailes tipped off candidate Trump about making Kelly's debate question about Trump's history of making disparaging remarks about women a lot of people thought he came back awfully quickly with that line about Rosie O'Donnell this reporting may explain it. But as you say Dylan Byers, it's offensive but recent polling show that ninety nine percent of CNN viewers believe President Trump has been lying about the Russia investigation. And just twelve percent of FOX viewers thought the president had lied. There is this is the story of our time. There is a Bokan ization of the media. And there we are living in in separate silos. Now as Americans based off of the news that we choose to consume based off of the sources that now. Reinforce our own worldview. And in the case of the Fox News viewers. They are getting a lot of misinformation. Well, we just got a look inside the silo Dylan Byers senior media reporter for NBC and MSNBC. Thank you. Thank you. You can't say Benjamin dryer is just a copy editor you can't say that because he's so much more. He's vice president executive managing editor and copy chief of Random House. But you also can't say because just as just a copy editor just as in merely is one of the words Benjamin dryer says throw away don't use it. And you will be a better writer. He should know. He's dedicated his life to making others better writers in that belly. Or sometimes sword fight copy editors have with the authors, they're editing as actress Zoe Caldwell once told him conspiratorially copy editors are like priests safeguarding their faith in which case Benjamin dryer has now written a new bible dryers English an utterly correct. Guide to clarity and style and Benjamin Dwyer joins us from NPR's New York studios. Welcome. Thank you for having me. And I have to confess I'm a little scared. I'm a little scared. I'm going to say something like more. Importantly, my mother. He said, it's more important. There's no Lee and all hell's going to break loose. Do you have people say that to you like they're almost afraid or talking to you people do say that? And of course, they say it, partly as a joke. But of course there partly deadly serious. We'll buy okay. How about our introduction a little overwritten personally in in that? I was the I was the object of it. I thought it was charming. Okay. Great goodbye. Well, let's talk about some of those words that you say don't use them for a week. And we can understand. These are words that modify other words, so very rather. Just and I can understand a word. That's being modified should be good enough to stand on its own two feet. But why just because there are so many other more interesting ways to say simply were merely or solely. And just is just so bland. We want more tips like that one. But before a lightning round, you only work with one author now, Elizabeth strout except for her first hollow Kittery. Yes, Burgess boys, and my name is Lucy Barton and anything is possible and very exciting. To admires of of loses olive comma again. Yes, the return which is spectacular. Well, what's that? Like, I mean, you're the shadow your offstage applauding the author. But you're in this mix with them. Well, it's become such a great time between her and me because there's a level of intimacy that has developed between the two of us, and I feel sometimes that I'm in her brain, she's in mind to mean, she has said to me that sometimes she's working on something in a manuscript and the sentences a little sort of Noddy, and she can't quite figure out what's going on. And she says, oh, well Benjamin will fix it. Well, what a compliment. And sometimes it is as you describe a waltz this dance that you do sometimes a violent Tango. What happens when you move beyond commas or rearrange the sentence that an author hasn't said, you know, we'll bend. We'll figure that out. And somebody's upset in my experience on the thing. You're always aiming for of course, is to not have a fight breakout between the copy editor and the author good authors. Enjoy being copy edited they're aware of the fact that nobody is ever really going to pay such attention to their work all the way down to the nuclear level as their copy editor now, sometimes it just goes wrong. And even the best copy editor Ken on occasion. Simply not understand. What it is the author is trying to do not hear it. Well, and then you might have the exchanges that you describe in the book the author writing sniffly in the margin, it's called style to so to criticism. And then another writing in big Cavs write your own blank book. Copy editor cannot make a bad book into a good book. But a copy editor, Ken, certainly in a in a substantial real fashion. Take a good manuscript and fine tune it and polish it, and you know, tighten the screws and and make a material difference. Okay. We'll make us better writers. You say there are rules. But there are some that you don't care as much about for instance, split infinitives infinitive to have to hold to go. You say, it's okay. Split them up. Right. I mean, the Star Trek phrase to boldly go where no man has gone before. I'm to boldly go. That's what we call a split infinitive and people have had drummed into their heads arbitrarily. And with no particular thought going into it don't do that to which my response is why not do it. You wanna get the adverb where you want it to be you wanted to make the best sound at possibly can. So boldly split your infinitives. If it sounds good. The rule is never enter sentence with a preposition as at by four. You say it's not always the most effective way to end a sentence. A dude like to end a sentence with a nice strong word because it makes a punch, but every now and then to try to undo sentence. It's going to end with a preposition, but taking it in just rearranging its parts, it's going to sound stilted. So give us an example of what's okay? Oh, this is something I won't put up with hoops with. That's a preposition. But you say you can end a sentence with with you don't have to torture yourself and others by making it this is something with which I won't put up. Yes. There you go. And it's we're fine. Nothing's happened. You say though, the the goal is you drove me to the dictionary love, but the goal is to aim for powerful finale and not simply dribble off like an old man's unhappy Mukta Russian which I looked up and it had something to do with dribbling an old men. And so people can look that up. But one rule that you say, it's okay to break surprised us a person that instead of a person who it doesn't always have to be who doesn't always have to be. Sometimes you're you're not stressing the humanity of the person, you're stressing the profession, you're expressing a group of people that you know, the teachers that are attending the conference. Now, I'm telling you straight. Of course, I will more often than not reach for the word who, but as I regurgitate demonstrated quite handily when he wrote the song the man that got away you can refer to a person as of that. And you'll be just fine. We've used words like preposition and split infinitive. And some people may not. Know what those are. But may have just a sense of what's right? So you write a another sentence that you say you almost you're on the verge of making public. I'm going to read it slowly at we need white boards to do a segment like this. But if listeners can jot down, I think of the internet as a real place as real or Reeler than demoain. Well, I looked at that women it if you drop the or real realtor again the sentence read as real or Reeler, then demoain, and if us that old trick, you drop the or realtor you'd be left with as real then demoain, which tells you you need to add another as so it would read as real as or Reeler than demoain now. I don't think I know what parallelism is. But it just feels right? We do rely on our ears when we are writing. And if we if we are lucky enough to have a good year. You don't necessarily need to know what parallelism means or what a subjunctive is. Or what a split infinitive is. Okay. Moving on exclamation marks. You say some writers recommend that writers should use. No more than a dozen exclamation marks per book. Others insist you should use. No more than a dozen exclamation points in a lifetime. Double exclamation marks. No-one over the age of ten you say who is not actively engaged writing a comic book should use them in which case, I want to recall all of my texts and tweets of, of course, you mentioned. The magic words texts and tweets texting has its own language tweeting certainly has its own language. And and when Twitter tweet is the Twitter's do I can certainly understand why people who have been brought up texting they have their own way of looking at this language that they're speaking in which they are speaking you go on like it must. It must be so hard being you moving onto fiction. You've got great advice. Overrated words, blinking grimacing. Huffing pausing especially for a beat smiling. Weakly snorting swallowing doing anything wistfully you go onto say you writers are far too keen on and then which can usually be trimmed to then or don't away with. And you're also over fond of suddenly what else would you say to fiction writers cut back on the murmuring cut back on the whispering? The shrugging the pointing the considering the the nodding the sixth time in twenty pages that somebody's shrugged or as I like to say, shrugged their unnecessarily mentioned shoulders because what else are you? Shrug. The six time. That's happened is maybe four times too many. But here's more that you say to writers put on permanent hiatus, the angry flaring of nostrils, the thoughtful pursing of lips the leading out of the breath. You didn't even know you were holding. What do you love though? Is there a word you've come across lately where he just went all, you know, all sorts of words appeal to me on a on a visceral level, they do something they make a particular sound at at the moment. I'm trying to think of the ones that I love and mostly. I'm thinking of words that I have a visceral distaste for let's hear some more of those while you're thinking I can't bear the site or the sound of the word munch. It just makes me shiver. And and I I somehow have never quite been able to make peace with the word notch out, Sean something we're just popped into my head in KARN. It it's I like that word I like that work occasionally, I'm as what's your favorite word. And I always choose for my favorite oddball word, which is defenestrate to throw something or someone out of a window. Well, it's so weirdly specific that it's delightful that the English language came up with it. Yeah. But if you were trying to tell you, no quick somebody through someone out of a window, you probably wouldn't yell. They defenestrate them. Well, I would. And confusion would rain Benjamin dryer again, his new terrific book, dryers English and utterly correct. Guide to clarity and style. It's a it's really a must read Benjamin, thanks so much. And we'd love to have you back. Maybe with some listeners questions about writing. That would be fun. Thanks so much. This message comes from here. And now sponsor indeed when it comes to hiring. 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You know, you look out in the world you see the JC Penny's in the Sears and all the retailers who are having problems in a new online environment targets been ahead of the game for a long time. Right. Target a longtime ago decided that it doesn't want to be a stodgy sort of discount or it wants to attract a broader range of customer. So it has continued to do that kind of thing. It is you know, it has new lines of lingerie new sleepwear, it it's really focused on a kid's stuffed toys, but one of the things it's done is. It's really expanded its online presence, and it's pick up in store. So when you look at the online sales a large proportion of it was stuff that people ordered online and picked up in store or were shipped from a local store to a customer as opposed to a warehouse. So target is is really trying to take the bold. Why the hordes and say that bricks and mortar retailers who have a lot of floorspace are going to suffer in the years to come. What can they do to try and keep their customer base and growing and when you hear that? Online sales are up. Thirty percent is that good enough for a company like target? It was a lot better than people expected. Let's put it that way by by series of multiples overall, it only contributes a little bit to its growth, but it is important to not lose customers who would come into your stores to people who will buy online. Elsewhere now targets also launched something called target. Plus, which is an online marketplace where you can buy from other sellers like on Amazon, WalMart, Amazon do the same thing. So target is saying can we still keep people buying from us and making some money, but passing on when us online market online sellers, you can pass on some of the expenses to them. So target is trying to position itself to be the place you go to buy things at a lower plight price or the place you go online to buy things and don't go to Amazon and don't go to WalMart. It's looking promising the one differences with target. Plus, you have to be invited to join as opposed to Amazon and WalMart where any third party seller can get on those platform. Now, if you go to target, you can buy all kinds of things just like you can at WalMart. But one of the. Things that they sell is food, and we heard the other day that Amazon is reportedly planning to open dozens of its own grocery stores, not whole foods which owns but its own grocery stores. How is target doing in the food the grocery store business? So target continues to grow in that space. Others have been grown faster and more so Amazon when it wanted to grow did do the whole foods acquisition, but whole foods and Amazon together are four percent of the country's grossly market. It's big WalMart is twenty one percent. So target has a lot of space to grow. Again. This is a footprint problem because, you know, large footprint stores when you get into the grocery business, you have to allocate a good amount of space to it. So target is going to try and do that remember that the other people with grocery stores, Kroger, WalMart target the big ones have about ten thousand stores in the United States. If we're moving to online the growth in a lot of stores is not going to be the answer. So the issue for target is how could it have enough groceries in store? To attract people to it while being able to move that online because Amazon is forcing the market to go that way. Remember, we didn't know buy groceries online. Right. That was unheard. I even five years ago now everyone's doing it Alabel she MSNBC anchor in economics. Correspondent thanks. President Trump called out house. Democrats today saying their investigation of him is the greatest overreach in the history of our country as part of that investigation. Democrats are requesting documents from dozens of entities and people including the president's oldest son, Donald Trump junior. Donald Trump junior was at that Trump Tower meeting in two thousand sixteen he is also one of the most ardent political surrogate for his father, he spoke at the conservative political action conference over the weekend touting low unemployment rates among minorities, if Barack Obama accomplished one tenth of what Donald Trump has done for those minority groups they'd crown him emperor for life. Joining us now is Philip Rucker White House bureau chief at the Washington Post, welcome. Hey, glad to be here. So Donald Trump junior is executive vice president of the Trump organization with his brother, Eric, but he gets a lot of attention for statements about politics tweets, TV interviews. How would you describe the role? Role that he plays for the president? You know, it's interesting. He does not work in the White House. Unlike his sister, vodka Trump, but he is the most political if the Trump offspring by far, Don, jR, is on the campaign trail, he's a surrogate he's very much sort of in touch with Trump's base, and he likes to mix it up in politics. He loves the back and forth on Twitter. He loves to be in the fray, and that's why we saw him on stage at CPAC. And in fact, he has had the views that he's had an you would have to describe him as a pretty far right conservative. He's had them since even before President Trump was in the White House. That's right. It's interesting. If you go back to look at his sort of upbringing, and what he was like as a child and as a teenager. He was always very interested in the outdoors and hunting, and sort of activities that are very much the core of a kind of middle America and out in. Rural America, and he's been a conservative ideologue for some time. You know, certainly his father has espoused conservative positions over the last few years. But Don, jR, was there first. And if you think of who is sort of a thin typically channeling that conservative vote you'd have to say, Don jR, and he he's more sort of at peace with that element of the Republican party than even his father the president. Do you get the sense that President Trump relies on Don junior as sort of a window into his own base? He does he certainly relies on Don, jR, as a window into an on issues like guns on issues that affect worl- Americans for example last year. There was a really big competitive Senate contest in Montana. The reelection of Senator Jon tester, a democrat President Trump was very invested in that race. He hates tester. He very much wanted to defeat tester, and he would turn to his son. Don, jR, for advice on how to do. So. Oh because Don had been to Montana, Don as hunter, Don goats fishing. He loves the wildlife outdoors expeditions, and he thought that Don, jR, would have a much better sort of gut sense of what the voters of Montana were thinking and actually deployed Don, jR, repeatedly for campaign rallies in a tour across the state. Let's hear more from the CPAC conference over the weekend. Becky Falwell is the wife of liberty university president Jerry Falwell junior and was talking about her new granddaughter named Reagan as in President Reagan, Donald Trump junior had this dad, I love it for Trump. But it was a little too soon. Maybe so we'll say Trump is not the most feminine name that we could make it. Hey. Page out of the liberal playbook. It doesn't matter. You know, it doesn't matter we can identify how we want by the way, she is a daughter. She's our granddaughter. She's a we're raising her as a girl, she's we're not let her have a choice. She's gonna win outrage. Tomorrow that you decided for dot he's been criticized for those comments and many others. He made a comment to a Philadelphia radio station in two thousand sixteen that if his father lied, like Hillary Clinton, the media would be warming up the gas chamber he compared Syrian refugees to skittles candy. He compared immigrants to zoo animals does he take it too far. Sometimes or does anybody in the White House believed that he's taking it too far while he certainly blurs the line of too far. You know, he's not somebody who sticks to script. He's not, you know out there like vodka Trump, you know, reading from very carefully prepared remarks trying to hit just the right balance. Don, jR, as much more spontaneous. He likes to excite his crowds into do. So he, you know, says things that are off color offensive somewhat say even racist at times. And you know, I think he feels like that makes him authentic now if you talk. To folks in the White House. They say that Don, jR, is a very effective political surrogate for the president, he's somebody who is is sort of a celebrity figure within the Trump base, and they can send him out on the road to rallies, and he can whip up a crowd and create some energy and excitement at their does not seem to be, you know, a lot of negative feelings about him when he gets into hot water like this. But you know, other than a little bit of an eye rolling here or there. But you know, he's he's also not a part of the government. He's not somebody who's tasked to sort of carry a message politically in Washington or or push for legislation to pass, for example, or or do some of the kind of work that hit sister of oncogenes, and yet he may be called before congress to testify now as the House Democrats ramp up their investigations, let's look at that part of it. He was mentioned in Michael Cohen testimony last week. He was at that infamous. Twenty sixteen Trump Tower meeting with the Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton next, right? And Cohen suggested that Trump junior may have told his father about the meeting before it happened. Let's listen. And I recall, Don, jR, leave leaning over to his father and speaking in a low voice, which I could clearly here and saying the meeting is all set, and I remember Mr. Trump saying, okay, good. Let me know what are the legal issues right now with that meeting. And how does Donald Trump junior factor in? Well, Trump junior is exposed in that meeting he set up the meeting he did. So according to the Email documents that that he shared publicly that we've all now seen he did. So with the knowledge that this lawyer was providing information on behalf of Russia, and it was part of the Russian government's attempt to help. His father's campaign. That is not legal. It is not legal for anyone associated with an American political campaign to be conspiring with people from a foreign country. Now, whether Robert Muller writes up a Bill of goods against on junior. In his report is to be determined. We know that Don, jR, has not been indicted as part of that investigation. But you know, clearly, there's some exposure there. And you know, the other thing that's happening simultaneously, congress is trying to dig in and not just by the way about the Russian interference question. But there was a request from Jerry Nadler, the chairman of the House Judiciary committee this week for documentation regarding Don genius communications with his father with the president on any number of topics. Now, I don't know that that requests will be fulfilled by the White House in part because Don jR, is a family member. He's not a White House employees his communication with the president may not necessarily even be something that the White House has access to let alone decides is you know, within sort of legal justification for for the congress to review that's all to be determined. But but clearly the eldest son of the president is in some jeopardy here and there. There is a suggestion by Democrats that he actually lied to congress when he testified in 2017 about that x Ray needing that. That's correct. And I think that's one of the reasons why Nadler's committee, you know, wants more evidence pertaining to done junior and very well may may request that he come forward and testify. You know, I I don't think Don, jR, has testified for the last time before the congress. What do you make of the fact Philip Rucker that when you look at the Twitter feeds of Don jR, and Eric Trump that they're quite different that Don, jR is much. More of a pit bull for President Trump and Eric Trump. He tweets a lot about the Trump organization and other he does put up political tweets, but not nearly to the same degree. It's a really keen observation there at Don, jR, is much more comfortable clearly in public political role. He likes being in the fray, Eric Trump actually spent most of his time running the Trump organ is. Nation in particular, the golf courses with which has been sort of his portfolio as part of the family company for some time. But you know, Don does politics as an extra curricular. Whereas Eric Trump we very rarely see him in a political context. He does interviews from time to time on Fox News. He will, you know, sometimes appear at the White House for a special event very occasionally at a rally, but it's really dawn's space to be in politics. That is Philip Rucker White House bureau chief at the Washington Post Phil thanks for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. Here's a disturbing statistic. Twenty horses have died at the famed Santa Anita racetrack in southern California. Since the winter racing season began in late December. That's twice the number that died in the same period. Last year. The latest of four year old filly named Eskin four drink who was euthanized over the weekend after she injured her ankle during race trainer. Bob Baffert whose horses have won every major race in the country spoke to KABC news in Los Angeles. We'd love his panel veto sent him out there thinking something bad's going to happen. And it's stressful. But Santa Anita will host the prestigious Breeders Cup later this year. So what is the problem mitt Peterson is director of the university of Kentucky agriculture equine programs. He's been in California over the weekend. Inspecting the track and make your thoughts twenty horses in two months. Well, it's absolutely unacceptable. We're looking at every option we can to begin to understand. What's happening? This is not what we do is sport. Let's talk about the track. And and explain what's supposed to happen. There's a certain mixture of silt and soil that has to be there. There's it's it's sort of like a pad at the horses are running on. What's it supposed to be like? And what did you find? We're always looking at the composition of the track. We do monthly tests of the composition of the track. Samples are sent to Kentucky to the racing services testing laboratory in twice a year, we go out to do ground penetrating radar. And so the advantage that track of all is we probably got the best baseline date of almost any track in North America. And you didn't find anything wrong. No. We didn't. We were looking at every option. One thing is when there's a lot of rain you look in you expect the fine material to move to the inside rail of the track. And after we analyze the samples under the assumption that there might have been an issue we found that very. Insistent. Well, and can can you talk about how much work you just alluded to it? But how much work it takes to maintain a professional race track? Where something you've got this mix of sand. Silt clay, you've got rain and something as you know, insignificant as to our is like a grain of sand could injure these thousand pound magnificent thoroughbreds here and the maintenance of the track is kind of developed over years, and what we've been doing is documenting a lot of that and putting science behind it because everybody talks about the horses, but keep in mind, there's a writer on the back of everyone of those horses as well. So we're not only protecting the writer the horses, but we have to protect the riders. So our approach to this is every year, we need to be improving another so called it statistical clustering that is just a sort of an abnormality. But you know, people for the ethical treatment of animals are calling for the track to be closed twenty horses dying. But then people are also becoming aware because of the. Story that I said last year it was half. It was ten but then before that between two thousand fifteen in sixteen there were fourteen deaths. In fact, according to data from the California horse racing board. There were five hundred fifty three deaths between two thousand eight and eighteen in ten years. That's a lot of horses dying is something else. Going on people have talked about have horses been bred to have thinner ankles to be faster, and is that what's causing this. Well, what we're doing is. We're looking at every possible avenue, and this is really where the California horse racing board comes into play because each of these horses will have an e craftsy performed. And so California horse racing board is a government agency. So keep in mind that they're they're independent. And also where people like myself who might position university of Kentucky allows me to say things that aren't always what they want to hear and same for the medical directors in Kentucky, New York and California. These are people who really their job is to oversee. And to speak to the government oversight agencies about what they see in. How to improve the sport was your reaction when you first heard about the the latest death of the Philly. Oh, I I was I was devastated. I mean, you heard a Baffert, you know, none of us expect this, and we have to improve the way that we're maintaining the tracks. And we have to do everything we can to protect the horses because this is not an acceptable series of events. I think what you see your executives where what the hell do we do and some would say again closed down the tracks. But you mentioned whether do you think it's the recent rains because others are suspecting that what the reins always packed in. What we see in horse racing. Always is the challenge at any track is unusual weather. You know, so that might be a dry period at Churchill Downs or detract fair grants. New Orleans is as big a challenge is rain in California. And this is really where it's got to be an interesting ride effort to both a increase the knowledge of the superintendent. It's increase their understanding and professionalism, but also to share best practices and bring things together. And that's really where the racing surfaces testing laboratory that was formed. That's really what our job is. And is there something is there something to look at it? In breeding. I don't have a lot of expertise in. There's other people who are looking at specifically genetic issues, and we're looking at, you know, even the even the use of analgesics what I'm doing in this. I'm bringing the track information in the maintenance information to the California horse racing board than the regulators need to step back. And for example, the racing medication testing consortium is looking at any issues that may be need to be investigated in any kind of medications that are used nicktator CIN director of the university of Kentucky agriculture equine programs part of the team is trying to figure out why twenty horses have died in the last two months at this Anna Anita race track in southern California way too many mic. Thank you. Thank you. We'll follow this story. Here now, which is a production of NPR and WBZ in association with the BBC World Service. I'm Robin young. I'm Jeremy Hobson. This is here now.

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So Many Cults, So Little Time

Gaslit Nation with Andrea Chalupa and Sarah Kendzior

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So Many Cults, So Little Time

"From what dictate? I was president trump's right hand man fixer and confidante. I'm complicit in helping conceal the wheel, Don trump. I was part of creating an illusion. Later, this week he's going to stand up act blatantly lies you. I'm here to tell you you can't be trusted and you shouldn't believe a word. He utters. So when you watch the president this week, remember this. If he says something huge is probably small. If he says something we'll work it probably won't, and if he says, he cares about you and your family he certainly does not. He's going to tell you that if you re election, the economy will bounce back that only he can get us out of this economic crisis in can fix it. Maybe for those like him. But if you think he cares about working class Americans, you're dead. Wrong. The president is GonNa. Talk to you about law and order. That's laughable. Virtually everyone who works for his campaign has been convicted of a crime or is under Dighton dinant myself included. So when the president gets in front of the cameras this week remember that he sakes all gullible a bunch of fools. I was. And I sell learnt don't have to light me. Please listen to. I'm circa cancer, the author of the bestselling books, the view from five country and hiding in plain sight Andrea Chalupa, a journalist and filmmaker, and the writer and producer of the journalistic thriller Mr Jones, and this is gasoline nation podcast covering corruption in the trump administration and rising crecy around the world and so last night Monday night was the first night of the GOP convention half of the speakers. The keynote speakers at that convention are trump family on cocaine. Will Yeah I WANNA put a percentile on the cooking other substances but we know for sure that half of them are trump family members, which is worse than cocaine. Long ago, we warn you that trump sought to build a dynastic talk. And this is why he installed jared Ivanka office in the first place and why those two have been running the government behind the scenes in coordination with a variety of oligarchs, mafiosos and corrupt political actors. The GOP convention is a branding operation for the trump crime family. It is also yet another public loyalty oath required of his Republican lackeys who have forsaken any intellectual independence in favor of a rising autocrat. So I personally did not watch this shit. Did you watch the Shit? No, I'm practicing self care. Yeah me too me too. But I did see cocaine trending on twitter. Always, a good sign and so Kimberly Guilfoil and Don Jr. both came out supercharged with this nuclear explosion of. Antics that coke users people who've known coke users like. It lines before coming out here so that basically eclipse that whole white powder convention that are NC which I thought was really funny and added of went out there was this article in New York, Times magazine that came out at profile of dawn junior showing him to be sort of like this. Like. The idiot son finally is earning his father's love after all these years that was the big near Times magazine Profile Don Jr. is emerging as a force that may be the natural political animal in the trump family, and he has like a political future and Ivanka might actually get out shown here by Don Jr. and I thought that magazine profile, which is so whatever it was. It was one of those sort of palace intrigues like this anonymous source said this person this and what it did though was it allowed Don Juniors idiot squad that they call themselves the Wolfpack they're basically professional fulltime Internet trolls. Bat. Harass. People fighting for human rights and trying to hold his father accountable. It allowed there soundbites in in trying to frame Don Jr. as this force the future of the Republican Party and allowed all there sound bites to come through even though there's snarky asides here and there and some context here and there, but it's really limited considering how complicit Don Jr. has been in the enormous corruption and human rights, abuses, and and mass. Murderer through negligence by by his father and then how he's been party to so much of that in in promoting pushing this horrible regime and so it was really disappointing about Times magazine article came out trying to present him as a force and then twitter corrected it by being like this guy is weak. He can't get on a stage without doing lines a coke. He clearly has a problem. His father will never love him. So it was really interesting to see the contrast between that New York Times magazine trying not to be a puff piece puff piece versus the reality that everyone was calling out on twitter with that coke out Don Jr. performance. Yeah. This convention is like White Power Beats white powder like it's it's bad. I'm not putting myself through watching it You know we're GonNa talk about Eric Trump and his possible legal troubles. Later in the show you know what one thing I've always thought it was interesting about Donald Junior is that you can see this animosity between him and trump. going back so far you know there are there's a vanity fair profile I think from Nineteen Ninety were Donald Junior was twelve years old and he was talking about Donald Trump and saying, you know he doesn't love anyone he doesn't love me he doesn't love him solve all he loves is his money and this is like little twelve year old junior who is estranged from his father during the divorce you know, and then there's all these recollections of him in his time in college about his substance abuse problems like I don't have pity for people who have caused mass abuses. Of citizens of innocent lives, of our country in its sovereignty and it's you know democracy in its sanctity. My sympathy here is limited. You know what I have always thought about him is that he is a disposable member of the trump family and we see within this family. How disposable people are we had Robert Trump trump's brother who died recently and trump didn't really seem to care he just went. In I don't think we know a cause of death I don't know a lot about Robert Trump beyond that. He was in Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book and I think the same kind of disposability is there with Eric you know we certainly have seen neglect of and Barron. These are not pressing national issues, but there's something worthwhile having insight into the family dynamic because as I said, they are you know attempting to build a dynastic talk Chrissy and he will only favor those who he thinks can carry out the operations of the Transnational Crime Syndicate masquerading as a government. That does not really seem to include Donald Junior and Eric who do things like blurt out to magazines that they're mostly funded by Russia You know they say the quiet part allowed a much more than the others I. Still Think it's going to be von Jared as this nexus of power and I'm dreading You know whatever propaganda delivered to us this week because it's frightening, it's extremely frightening to have your country fall into the hands of a crime family and become an entrenched mafia state. You know people gossip about all of these little nepotistic relationships that line the. About McConnell and Xiao, about bar and his children who are installed the administration about Giuliani and his child who's in the administration, and then we have the conway's like this is the kind of gossip that people in authoritarian or semi-authoritarian states are intimately a familiar with because it's all they have left because you have the annihilation of the body politic and You know it's subjugation underneath a clan. These are clan politics in multiple senses of the word right and the new. York Times eats it up the new. York Times is like the Yearbook Committee of that Palace Intrigue Gossip Emerging Dictatorship Yep. They always have been and you know those articles are churned out you know as we said, many times the trump family covers up crime with scandal and people buy into these family dramas these alleged feuds within the administration well, not following the money not looking at the incredible breaches of law at the theft of basic rights, the theft of elections There's a lot going on Andrea and I are Kinda just nesting for the apocalypse here in barricading ourselves against the next few months which going to be very difficult, very chaotic. Unless, you are Mike Pompeo who I want to address here because this is another interesting facet of the GOP convention. It would not be a transnational crime syndicate masquerading as government without a key member giving a speech from another fucking country rapture fiend Mike pompeo is addressing the Republicans from Jerusalem trump is claiming he has personally made the capital of Israel. This is not remotely true although he did move the Sheldon Adelson branded embassy to Jerusalem. This is a cynical ploy to appeal to trump's jellicoe base to ultra Zionists into mega donors like eight hundred himself was poured an enormous amount. Of money into the GOP while defining himself as a single issue voter in that issue is Israel and all of this is disturbing and it's a reminder that it is a very bad idea to build policy based on the rapture. You know that is what Mon Mike Pompeo is about. He has said. So openly in speeches that he thinks that this is the apocalypse he thinks that this is the end times and that he's on the right side of God and. The corruption and brutality that he's participating in is something that is divinely sanctioned. Again, this is a deeply frightening thing to have to contend with this person is not only secretary of state, but before that. The head of the CIA. So yeah, he will be doing that from Israel and I'm afraid to see how it is used by the media by political operatives and by others because they're going to try to appeal to the worst instincts and people and they're going to try to frame incredibly inhumane illegal actions as A. That God has willed and yes people have to have honest conversations with themselves about what their plan is in November should. Trump and bar. Be Successful in stealing this election a, what is your plan prepare yourself now especially prepare yourself emotionally. So you don't fall into despair I just think from everything that that's been unfolding specialist week alone. It's just going to accelerate from here on out and don't expect November to bring any relief. It's just going to be an acceleration of this constant far-right plummet towards authoritarianism that we've already been undergoing last four years and on top of that even if Biden and his coalition of. Voting Rights, groups, and lawyers, election protection moyer's manages to pull off a victory, a free and fair election in. November we still have to contend with the trump family republican party. We still have to contend with Don Jr. on his army of professional trolls. We still have to contend with the fact that Lachlan Murdoch makes his father Rupert Murdoch seem like a drum circle beating, hippie Balk Lane One, the Power Struggle Lockwood one James Out. So we have Fox News on acid. So this whole Republican driven hijacking of our democracy that's been in play for decades. I was telling Sarah just before this. The Bush crime family is as bad as trump crime family. It's so Republicans saying, Oh that trump is not our republican party. Yes, it is. That's exactly who you are. You've always been anti-science. You've always been pro superstition. You've always been trying to turn our democracy into a theocracy even though the founding fathers were very clear on the separation of church and state you always been chipping away at the rights of women, voting rights needed to still elections in order to come to power, and so forth you've always been the the pro corruption, the destroying the planet party. The Republican Party is the Party of death. Donald Trump is the Republican party. Donald Trump has always been the Republican Party. Since the time of Richard Nixon is the same player. It's the same bad actors. So all of us need to emotionally except that we are in a marathon and that whatever happens in November brace yourself I'm telling you this upfront that Sarah and I have a very long. We didn't start the Fire Billy Joel episode today's I wanted to get this out of the way. I almost all of us have to emotionally brace for impact for the worst happening in November remember election night and Twenty Sixteen have a backup plan emotionally for should that happen again, this November twenty twenty, and then even if we escaped becoming a full-fledged dictatorship. Prepare yourself for long term sustained marathon battle against Karl Rove and Paul. MANAFORT's Republican Party. This isn't going away go away overnight it may we continue to stay engaged and stay vigilant it may. It may get better substantially better ten years from now. But unless we fight like hell election cycle after Election Cycle Okay Continue Sarah. Absolutely. Well, on that, no know know about the Republican Party The third thing is going to mention that significant about this year's convention is that there is no platform they did not bother making a platform they are recycling last year's platform. They have no intention of addressing or resolving covid nineteen or the Great Depression level economy or any of the other unprecedented crises that are afflicting Americans in twenty twenty. This is because their goal is to strip America down and sell it for parts that has always been their goal. Any sick weakened impoverished America is easier to take apart then he's strong healthy powerful America. They are trying to kill us. You can see that through their actions in response to the pandemic and they don't care who knows and yes you're absolutely right that this is an extension of what the Republican Party has been building to since the years of Watergate and to some degree before. But I think that's when it really took off and you know under Reagan you saw the economic policies takeoff it's remarkable that the same individuals are still around Roy Cohn proteges of Roger Stone and Paul. Manafort. you have the Bush family and yet another. Instance of a dynasty and you know you can basically look at a lot of the key players of Iran Contra who are basically are aged Andrea. There now the ones calling the shots, and that's why we've always hoped that people would emphasize the transnational aspects of this crime coal and its goals more than they do because this is not just an American shift. This is a global shift and as for your comments about the Bush family, I think that this. Thing, the Democrats are doing where they're embracing George. W Bush has comparatively quote unquote normal not only is incredibly disrespectful to the victims of illegal wars to the victims of hurricane, Katrina to all the damage that he caused and the country that he left behind when Obama had to come in an attempt to clean it up. There's still a lot that we don't know about the Bush family I was reading Bob Graham's book. Bob Graham the former senator of Florida who is part of the nine eleven commission and who is very adamant that Americans did not know the whole story of nine eleven and he was not some sort of conspiracy theorist. He was not out there in his theories you somebody who is studying the event intimately. If you read that book, it's basically implied or quite strongly implied that George W Bush and the Bush family are Saudi assets. Much, in the way that that trump is the Kremlin asset, we have a long history in this country of the top officials being beholden to other governments. In, part for resources and in part I don't know for kind of arrangements I, think for a realignment of the world order. That's why we've had all these episodes where we've discussed what did the Cold War mean? Did it end what did accomplish? That's why we had Timothy Snyder? Renowned historian of that era also kind of challenging the conventional wisdom of why the Cold War was saw in who won it you know his conclusion as his ours is oligarchs won the Cold War and a lot of the events that have transpired since of just you know continually shifted control of the world in its resources away from representative government away from institutional accountability away from transparency and towards elite domination criminal elite domination as this line between government and corporations and organized crime that line began to break down. and. So yeah. Just summed up all of gasoline. Like in one paragraph, which which probably sounds very overwhelming very confusing. But that's the situation we're in it is overwhelming. It is confusing we use this time here to try to make sense of it I wanted to just ask if you had any comments on the re use of the platform because, of course, Manafort was one of the people who was key in writing the original one in twenty sixteen if you don't, we just keep going on. So you mentioned Bush in the Saudis. This is a reminder that the holy war that the Republicans have been raging against Muslims. It's not against Muslims 'cause Saudi, Arabia's obviously a Muslim nation it's against. Poor. Brown people They're happy to take all money if it comes from Muslim. So just be clear about that. So this whole holy war, the raging it's against. Poor Brown people and not, and not just Muslims clearly is part the larger extension of protecting white supremacy. Yeah. And I think we're going to talk a bit later in the show of what jared. Kushner has gotten up to I'm excited for that. Just. This realignment of the Middle, East which has been something that's been a goal of his long before he entered the White House and you know I have thought there are multiple international actors whose goal in getting trump into the White House was actually to get Kushner into the White House and to get Kushner near classified information and get him in a position where. You can make policy decisions that have absolutely nothing to do with the welfare of Americans or of America itself they have to do with pleasing these international actors among them Netanyahu and B. S. they also have to do some degree with getting him out of the enormous amount of debt he was in before he took power, but we'll get to that in a bit. One thing I've been meaning to discuss more in detail on this show is Cunanan. We've discussed that before and I wrote about them in my book hiding in plain sight. But now Cunanan has reached a broader more mainstream audience. You're seeing a lot of analysis of it I encourage you to look for journalists who've been tracking this phenomenon from the beginning. It's easy to misinterpret. It's easy to sort of you know construed in a way without the proper context in which you're missing some of the things that happened. So I'm going to just. You know some of what's happening here. We have cue non-members running for Congress we had a press conference in which trump was asked this question. Remind me of when you know Lisa Simpson asked Mr Burns questions when he was running for mayor on this into like you know you have the momentum of a runaway steam train how do you do it? You know one of these like this group of people treat you god-like figure and says that you're roughly rescuing children do you believe in? Of course trump is like yes and honestly you know as much as they Rightfully. Go off on trump I don't know how else one answer that question like it was just. So obviously a plan to question that could have been asked in a different way anyway there's been a lot of discussion about is Q. and on dangerous and you know the answer is well yes to an extent because any coal is dangerous and that's what this has become. Blind obedience is inherently dangerous and because some members of Cunanan have a history of violence trump is going to use coupon to stoke violence particularly around the time of the election and after the election and so people are saying, well, what do we do and I have been saying for three years the only way? To neuter Q. and onto to strip it of whatever violent capacity and might have is for everyone including and especially our officials to be brutally honest about corruption in government and particular to be brutally honest about the role of child trafficking and blackmail over multiple decades embodied by but certainly not limited to the Jeffrey Epstein Gylain Slash Robert Maxwell operation because the main claim that Cunanan Mace that the US is controlled in large part by sadistic pedophile elites is accurate. We have covered this claim on gas that nation for years and you see examples of it with Epstein Maxwell. But also in multiple predecessor cases like Craig Spence in the late nineteen eighties or Roy cones, blackmail operations, which also involves. Kompromat over sexual trafficking and abuse of minors people have denied that these operations existed and they whitewashed the perpetrators for decades. That's why you heard so little about obscene in the two thousand, sixteen election despite his connections to trump who of course was accused of raping a thirteen year old procured by Epstein and also many. Others involved in the election whether Bill Clinton or high ranking officials from other countries they don't want to talk about this and it's real and unfortunately the denial of it, and then eventually admission that yes this exist has I think in the minds of a lot of Cunanan on supporters it's validated that saying, hi, you know we were right all along. So the other stuff that they're saying must true and it's not man that's why this has been such. You know ineffective operation because the best propaganda has a core green of truth and hear that truth is all the more powerful because of the continuous refusal of government officials and journalists to acknowledge it. To specify some of the other claims that Cunanan is made I mean I don't know the group they main thing it believes that there is an anonymous government official named q who leaves coded clues on the Internet. It's been doing this since two thousand seventeen. What it promises is that trump has actually been installed in office to take down the quote unquote deep state and is the savior of children who have been abducted or abused or used in plots by criminal elites, and that he is going to, you know bring about justice and to free them and so at taps into this deep emotional core for a lot of people and I've watched as people who otherwise might have. Condemned trump or whom I take a different stance on things get pulled into the Cunanan network because it was the only one or one of very few who were addressing very real cases like Jeffrey Epstein while it's doing this, it's also making a bunch of absolutely bizarre but basically, I guess benign claims one of which is that JFK junior is actually live and leading and underground revolution on behalf of trump. But it's also made a number of dangerous claims. It's accused a number of public figures of cannibalism of murder of child abuse and it is extended threats to those public figures to the supporters of them and the trump administration is tapping into this and trying to demonize. Ordinary Americans. Trying to you know divide us in a very deep way beyond just red states and blue states and so forth it's it's trying to portray. Threats, and that in prompted some members of Cunanan to make threats and it's the threats that are the problem and the weaponization of them. For political propaganda and so as I said, honesty is the only policy here if you want to prevent Cunanan from becoming even more of a public safety threat than it is and it's worth noting the timeline of Cunanan's evolution Hewitt on emerged right around the time of the indictments of Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn exactly, which is when the trump crime Cole moved from denial over Russia moved from the stance of have nothing to do with Russia to flip the script approach in which they accuse the other side of what they themselves had done or they swap out regions players. So Russia became Ukraine and trump became Hillary Clinton and so on. It also emerged at the height of me to. Keep predators being exposed and it seemed very likely that trump's connections to Jeffrey. Epstein, we're going to become an object of Focus Cunanan was an early propaganda intervention to direct the attention of those looking at Epstein into a trump supporting movement where trump is presented as the savior of trafficked children. Instead of someone who is a friend of Epstein and was accused in court of raping a thirteen year old we do not know who started a non, but this timing is very likely not a coincidence. It's become an effective movement in part because of the refusal of officials including Democrats to take the core claim seriously and to call out the Epstein Aberration. In particular and so I have more to say on that as as a symptom of Savior Syndrome I wrote about that in my book you kind of see the flip side of the molar will save us a narrative in the queue will save us or trump will save us narrative. But yeah, what were your thoughts on that? America has a disinformation crisis and this is been going on for many years now driven by largely Republican policies in that, we got to this crisis point because of a lack of funding for public schools across America we have hedge funds gobbling up newsrooms across America and laying off journalists that we desperately need as. Dogs today including local watchdogs where a lot of corruption happens we have less and less investigative journalism units across the country. Investigative Journalism is very costly and time-consuming. It needs a lot of. In order to run and those jobs have been disappearing over the last couple of decades in what you have is the consolidation of power of far-right. Bar media getting stronger and including on the local level with sincere clare buying up local TV stations across the country and running what looks like Fox. News, on asset even more aggressive in its lying than Fox News. So all of this of course is creating a horrific disinformation crisis in America and disinformation is a public health crisis. We saw for instance, the Kremlin pushing ANTIBAC- circle spiracy theories, which has real world consequences. Of course, a lot of idiocy is home grown and American companies in Silicon Valley did very little. To combat, spread his information when it came to a vaccines. Now you have diseases they shouldn't be getting thanks to the power of science. You know it's like this dark age that we're entering in with information we saw disinformation putting the lives of the first black president and his family at risk with the birther movement that was being driven by Donald Trump and his wife Melania and the Kremlin as well, and so all of this points to Cunanan I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't started by a hostile foreign enemy that was specialized in disinformation brings information as we very well know. The Kremlin is skilled at this that was the whole soul and heart of the molar report that whole deep dive into the Internet Research Agency that troll factory that was spreading all this information across all available social media channels supercharged Cambridge Analytica a militarized propaganda firm founded by billionaire Robert Mercer and Steve Bannon and how that helped tip the scales not only in our election but also in the Brexit vote, there's a great book on the Gas Nation Reading Guide by a professor out of a pen I believe that did a big deep dive into how social media played an influential role. In twenty. Sixteen. So the first post that I have here in the Washington Post, the reverse Q. on post according to Washington Post popped up in October twenty seventeen and what was happening in October twenty seventeen you had Hutton's operative Paul Manafort who was working through his Kremlin handler, Constantine Kalinic who's a Russian intelligence officer. You had Paul Manafort training himself in finally under pressure to the FBI, and that was a big turning point and I wouldn't be surprised if the Kremlin of course in conjunction with far-right American maniacs had this opportunity just as they've used. So only ops like this leveraging social. Media channels against US for years they've done this before they've had lots of practice at doing this. So why wouldn't they get this in motion to fight back to sow discord to incite people to violence to incite people to hurt themselves by spreading disinformation that actually works against their interests like not wearing a mask and not getting a vaccine that will keep you and your children safe at all of that. So disinformation is a public health crisis and it is very much in the interests of our enemies to fan those flames I can't speak for the origins of it I feel like whoever? Began, and certainly the people who've contributed to it and helped build it up intimately understand American political culture understand Internet culture, and understand the biggest weakness of this crime call is their incredible sadistic brutality and the fact that whoever you support, whatever you might otherwise believe in I think most people will oppose child abuse. Most people are horrified by something like Jeffrey Epstein's operation. That's like the glue holding our country together is no matter what your political persuasion is. You are horrified by him, you want justice for those victims you want to expose these people you want to make sure that this never happens again and so I think that you know one of these. It was preemptive narrative inversion much Lake Pizza Gay. To accuse the others of what you your suffer doing while presenting yourself as the savior and I think another thing that they understood well, and I'm not just read briefly from my book here I made a comparison between the accolades of Cunanan and those who are proclaiming constantly throughout twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen molar will save us. You know that there were sealed indictments that there were secret plans. You know this went beyond just I hope mother does a good job and I hope that those who committed crimes are held accountable. It was a form of worship it was a personality cult. And so what I wrote here. Is Savior Syndrome is a mindset that flourishes during the unstable period of autocratic consolidation when frightened citizens seek to find meaning in the inexplicable actions of their field leaders to those under the sway of Savior. Syndrome. Once trusted officials are not incompetent or corrupt. They are merely playing three chests. It doesn't matter if officials are in reality resorting to the weakest moves when you don't know what to do push upon could have. been the motto of the Mueller Probe. Their motives must be presented as pure their tactics, impeccable and impenetrable. The advocation the admired is too much for those seeking saviors to process no matter, their political predilection, and so for two years one group of Political Junkies Lit Muller themed prayer candles while another parse trump tweets for coded clues. Both sides told the skeptics to shut up and trust the plan neither side what they wanted. And so that's where we still are now unfortunately as a country, that's why we have the Republican convention. In the way that it is as authoritative coal as a Colt revolving around really that's why we're seeing safe syndrome flourishing yet. Again on the Democratic Side I, think people have finally abandoned Pelosi is GonNa save us, which is where they went after Muller's going to save US failed, and now it's kind of on the two thousand election will save us even though that election is being rigged and compromised before our eyes and so this is a very dangerous tendency that flourishes during times like this where people are so frightened that they don't know who to trust, they just want to follow they don't want. To think, and so I encourage you, you know we we know we know how scary it is right now this is a genuinely frightening time, but try to keep your wits about you keep your individuality, your propensity for critical thought it's not bad ask questions you know my issue with Cunanan, is not at all that they're asking questions about things. I think that that's a healthy good tendency and I think that it's being exploited. It's you know people who are following this movement are being driven into a dark 'cause that you know perhaps they don't fully understand I think a lot of people on the Democratic or progressive side are also tricked. That's my point is that no one is kind of above this people fell for the muller pro they fell for these false saviors just as a lot of these Cunanan folks are falling for Q. So it's not like a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of emotional manipulation and they're doing it among the most sensitive of topics topics that resonant greatly. With parents or just with anyone who worries about children and topics that are rooted in a grain of truth. So yeah, we need honesty and one of the things that we need to get to the bottom of is you know who is part of this movement who is funding this movement? What is the ultimate goal? How will it be weaponized during the election and you know it's a very It's a very tough thing to contend with and people should take it seriously and how do we shut it down because whoever started it right? It exists now and so it's a big fat target for anybody to manipulate and drive people into dangerous action. That's the issue is what is big tech doing the stop what our local officials doing the stop as this is a health crisis and as times are very scary, people are easier to manipulate people are desperate for. Somebody to come and fix this, they want to give up personal responsibility because they themselves are exhausted they. Themselves are under a great deal of pressure. This is an economic crisis. There's health crisis a wise it up to me to fix this. So people are looking for some outside force to come along, and so all of these conditions combined make some people really vulnerable to this Colt mentality and I want to read from this guardian article from May two, thousand, nine that. has been making the rounds today because we're up against an actual Colt, a trump and his base there like a mass suicide of followers you know refusing to wear masks doing all these super spreader events it just like that amazing speaker that young woman at the DNC said, you know who lost her father to Cova Nineteen? She said that her father had a pre existing condition of trusting Donald Trump and he of course wasn't alone that's trump's base it's a mass. Suicide Colt now, and so I'm GonNa read from this to a May two, thousand, nine Guardian piece that will link to in the show notes psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton who once taught at Harvard Medical School wrote a paper titled Colts Formation in the early nineteen eighties the delineated three primary characteristics, which are the most common feature shared by destructive colts won a charismatic leader who increasingly becomes an object of worship as general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose power. That is a living leader who has no meaningful accountability and becomes a single most defining element of the group and its source of power and authority to a process of indoctrination or education is in use that can be seen as coercive persuasion or thought reform commonly called brainwashing the culmination. This process can be seen by members of the group often doing. Things that are not in their own best interest but consistently in the best interest of the group and its leader lifting seminal book thought reform in psychology of totalism explains the process in considerable detail, three, economic, sexual, and other exploitation of group, mad by the leader and the ruling Coterie. Rich reminds us of the Steve Bannon arrest for fraud ing. Donors. crowdfunding campaign to build the wall, the destructiveness of groups called Colts varies by degree from Labor Violations Child Abuse, the child pedophilia happening the sex abuse happening today in the human rights crisis that the trump regime engineered on the border medical neglect. Don't wear a mask. The whole pandemic in some extreme in isolated situations calls for violence or mass suicide. He had episodes, but people need to confront these things. Then you know what you said before about, how do we stop this? I, still think telling the truth you know as ugly as it is as horrifying as it is no matter who it exposes if the truth comes out, then people begin to have trusted something again, they have faith in something again, something real something tangible We have this bifurcated reality which trump both creates and exploits, and of course, he's surrounded by skilled propagandists. He's a product of reality. TV's a product of tabloids manipulation of public perception is something that he's extremely experienced in and we have institutional decline so. While these reactions to it or not good. You know in their socio economic context, they're understandable and what we've laxed is transparency and we've accountability, and when you see these horrific actors go for decades unpunished. A natural reaction to that is fear you fear will, what will they do to you? You know these are people who are intertwined with elite institutions with powerful actors. These are not random criminals on the street. These are criminal elites in you know the refusal to really tackle this crisis is both damaging it's making the crisis worse and it's frightening. Of course behind that is a lot of blackmail a lot of complicity, a lot of people. Doing. Horrific things while occupying positions of power. That's what we as Americans no matter who you voted for. Or no matter who you support we're all dealing with that. You know odds are we were not participants in it. You know if you're just an ordinary person, you're looking down at these actors above who are corrupt and militias and who get away with it continually, and it's both demoralizing and frightening to watch and it's tragic for the victims. So I would hope that maybe in some sense, we can pull together as a country to just try to take this system this coalition of corruption apart and examine it and bring the perpetrators to light and on that note, do you WanNa. Talk About Jared Kushner. Always wanted talk about Jared Kushner, but I do want to point out just to give our audience some breathing room. You on the spin cycle, they're listening to this in a wheel of fury I, WanNa your some good news, and then we'll go into the the Lord of chaos and evil that jared Kushner is we can fight our way out of this elections, of course, matter including local elections, especially, local elections where you in Newark City where I live, we adopted the green new deal and our mayor has a great climate czar who's been actively going after. The big oil giants for their role in destroying our planet and bringing about climate change, which were now in also preparing your helping New York City brace for impact for when Mother Nature's Big Blue Wave. Breaks, So there is good news on that front from all these combined efforts Exxon's market value has sunk to one, hundred, seventy, five, billion. The company has been plagued in part by claims that it deliberately concealed the damage that the oil as long strike to refine and gasoline was doing to the planet. So it's been dropped from the Dow Jones which is great news and. That's a sign of things to come were finally hopefully leaving the age of oil behind and that's happening because of grassroots power that's happening because of elections that's happening because officials are forcing accountability. So we do have a way out of this, and that is what we always say on this show staying gauged stay vigilant and fight take the long view go the gasoline nation. Action Guide. On on our website, gasoline Latian pod, dot com, and binds something to do there and commit yourself to it. Wholeheartedly, just start small star anywhere and keep going because in time we're going to weed out all of this corruption and take our country back. Don't give your power away stay active stay vigilant, and if you want, you can even join me on the evening of September seconds. I am CO hosting a letter writing party with swing left our wonderful friends at swing left to help get out the vote. You can join from anywhere that September second from seven to nine PM Eastern and at the top of the show notes for this week's episode I'll postal link we can RSVP and get access to these zoom invite so I hope to see you all there. Now. Let's talk about Kushner. So. Kushner is evil was trending on twitter and I thought that might Em's was Sarah had been leaked? It was like everyone saying Kushner's evil. It's was there and I say like every other day. There's amazing report that came out in the daily beast, a deep dive investigation by Aaron Banco who's a fantastic journalists that you guys should follow on twitter? And what she uncovers that jared Kushner got his back channel to Russia. The one that he always wanted all these years member in two, thousand, sixteen, there was two thousand seventeen there was reporting that Kushner is trying literally went to the Russian ambassador the time Kislyak and asked if he and his family trump family could have a back channel to the Kremlin and Kislyak probably licking his chops couldn't believe what a gift the Kremlin had given itself with helping bring the trump's to power. So just to read from this article. Focuses on the CEO of a Kremlin sovereign wealth fund who was Putin's proxy because Putin, of course, like trump has Michael Cohen and other proxies Putin to has his Michael Cohen's the guys that go out and do the dirty work for him. So to build that bridge back channel to the trump family Putin had dmitri of the of the Kremlin Sovereign Wealth Fund. And I'm going to read from this now Dmitri of the Kremlin Sovereign Wealth Fund was one of the main participants the infamous January twenty seventeen sessions meeting with former Blackwater Co Eric Prints in which the two discussed roadmap for US Russia cooperation in the new administration in the year since Kushner and of have communicated often at a distance at at times through intermediaries. And my comment is plausible deniability. That's how this all works about ways, the US and Russia could work together. The conversations have touched on everything from creating a joint business council to increase investment to working on a Middle East peace deal to helping lead negotiations on a recent OPEC deal to delivering those medical supplies of broken ventilators to New York at the height of pandemic in the city. And according to multiple senior officials after the twenty sixteen election President Putin himself task Dmitri of directly with trying to make inroads with trump's transition team according to a recent report issued by the Senate Intelligence Committee and Robert Mueller. Special. Counsel report to Mitri, I've got to work actively trying to connect with members of trump's inner circle who eventually will influence in a new administration. He was particularly interested in connecting with Kushner those reports said. Now here's where things get interesting and the Cunanan on people might find the especially interesting. DMITRIEV began his outreach to Kushner by connecting with George. Nader Alabama's American political close the crown. Prince. Mohammad bin Ziyad in the United Arab Emirates who helped broker meetings with the incoming trump administration dimitrios fund RDF had co-invested with the Emirati sovereign wealth fund on a series of projects to men had been in frequent contact Dimitrova invited nater to a chess tournament and asked him to invite Kushner though NATO never passed on the message. The report said over the next several weeks Dimitri of continue to speak with later about the possibility of meeting transition officials like Kushner and Donald Trump Junior. Nater was later sentenced on child pornography charges in the Eastern District of Virginia. Alright. So the next part is some promotion for my film Mr Jones available now on Amazon and Itunes in his congressional testimony in November twenty seventeen. Eric Prince said he told Dmitri of that quote if Franklin Roosevelt can work with Joseph Stalin after the Ukraine terror famine. which is available. Now, you can watch the full story. Mr Jones. After killing tens of millions of his own citizens, we can certainly at least cooperate with the Russians, in a productive way to defeat Islamism state. Right. So golden handcuffs time, it noted that Russian companies would make investments with RDF. Financing disturbed the US market in the Mid West creating real jobs for her hit areas with high employment. What I just read is the Kremlin trying to sell trump and the US government on letting them come in and spread the Kremlin's golden handcuffs around especially in the hard hit midwest remember Midwest being states that the Kremlin's proxy Manafort was interested in when it came to helping steal the election for Donald Trump. The Midwest states were the focus of the. Audit the vote movement and the recount focused on election hacking. This what we've been saying since two thousand sixteen Putin has been trying to do what he does with. Ukraine, and that is through his proxies spread. Kremlin linked money around to further their tentacles across the US and further influence and they lock you in that way your business ties are so close that you're not going to hold them accountable you WanNa make that blood money. That's exactly why to this day most people have never heard of the more stallings genocide famine that killed. Millions of people, the vast majority and Ukraine because too many in the West, and in the UK we're making a lot of blood money doing business with the Soviet Union. So what the Kremlin is trying to do here is is really foresight and recreate that and they keep dangling this carrot in front of trump and the US government's lettuce and let us in. Look at all this great money we can make together. That's what they did under Stalin's government and it worked back then. So at the Helsinki Health Summit, this great deep dive goes on to say Bolton John Bolton pointed out that quote what both of them Putin and trump really wanted to discuss in Helsinki was increasing US trade and investment in Russia a conversation that. Lasted surprisingly longtime given their so little to say with so few. US businesses really eager to dive into the Russian political and Economic Morass Bolton Road in his book was a point that Dmitry of Kushner have been trying to get across for a long time. Right because they both know blood money makes the world. Go Round See my film Mr. Jones for more meanwhile. Back in Washington, the report goes on senior. US. Officials attempted to engage in intelligence sharing with Russia including information on terrorist financing but when the US shared intelligence with Moscow, it was rarely reciprocated and when it was information wasn't helpful. Officials said quote Moscow took a lot of license to really push our boundaries and our buttons very harshly as one senior official described it. Yeah because you can never trust the Kremlin ask Ukraine about that look at Ukraine's long history with the Kremlin during Putin's invasion of Ukraine Ukraine soldiers were promised safe passage by Russian Proxies Aka Russian soldiers that invaded their country, and instead they were massacred. You cannot trust the Kremlin. If you Russia today is being held captive by KGB agent who got this neo-soviet Mindset Study Soviet history to understand until Russia's free until Russia's a stable democracy cannot trust this Kremlin. This is the final piece that I want to highlight. So Dmitri it goes on to push really pushing this. Let's get together. Let's be united thing about all the money we can make. An I'll read from this now in May, a US Air Force aircraft landed in Moscow officials with the US Agency for International Development USA ID carried out the delivery abate five point six, million shipment with ventilators meant to help Russia fight the virus even though USA ID ceased Operation Country in two thousand twelve the agency did not respond to requests for comment for the story in its communique the US. State Department used language similar to. Dimitrios quote particularly in times of crisis, we must work together much like we did during the Second World War when the people of our two nations at other allies fought valiantly separate losses and endured great hardship and quo two months after that the US United Kingdom intelligence communities accused hackers working for the Kremlin of breaking into the networks of groups working on a covid nineteen vaccine until Putin has gone until Russia's free cannot trust the Kremlin. Know. This is quite an article I mean, it's extremely long. It probably could have been four or five articles Aaron Banco did a great job and it's remarkable the lack of comparative articles that this sort of reporting this is deep investigative dive in which you're piecing together. The actions of various countries in laying out that chronology it's rarely done anymore. But I thinking when I read this, if this is overwhelming for me to read to look at all these details like what is the average American reader getting out of this? And hopefully, what they grasp is that we have a government that is not treating Americans as important at all even in the midst of a pandemic, that is willing to let them die for money and that the son-in-law of the president who was installed into office based on no qualifications whatsoever is behind a lot of the worst moves in his connected. Not just to Israel not just to Saudi Arabia not just to UAE. Various Russian oligarchs and it is them that he serves and it is to them that our money goes and it's you know through them that our rights and opportunities are taken away and you know this last week folks you know were excited to see that Steve. Bannon was. Finally arrested in New, York Steve Bannon the leader of fascist movements and You know illegal manipulators of illegal manipulator of elections was arrested for defrauding people with the build, the wall fundraising campaign, and so in. My mind is sort of like when Al Capone was arrested for tax evasion. The crime is is much less than the total amount of damage that he's done throughout his career nonetheless to see it but I kept thinking you know the litmus test of whether we have an entrenched mafia state is whether Kushner is indicted they could've gone after him a long time ago the lies on his security clearances where he lied about. Meeting with foreign officials during the campaign but also before that alone was enough to get him out of office out of power. Early away from classified intelligence, we're going to be living with the ramifications of Kushner's presence in this position whether he stays or not. If they do actually manage to get rid of him, he's not going to keep state secrets. He's not going to work on behalf of American interests or on behalf of the American people he is part of this access of autocrats that is trying to destroy this country. From. Without and from within. So He's incredibly dangerous and it's been alarming to me that Moeller did not indict him that other officials didn't, and this article is just another example of the incredible damage that he's done in the incredible danger that we're in and so I ask again like where are our officials on this? Why is he not stopped when there's a pandemic? And he is in charge of it and use depriving Americans of necessary medical equipment while he makes deals with dirty oligarchs who attack our elections, like how much more do you need? You know how much more clear-cut does this have to be? How much longer does the evidence list half to get I? Think it's amazing that Leninist Steve Bannon was arrested on billionaires yacht. That's the Animal Farm Lennon built I. mean all those guys enrich themselves like stolen was living really well, and his henchmen were living really well, when millions of people were deliberately starved to death and liquidate an several genocides were carried out her Stalin's. So I think we should go out of this episode with a great video by act TV. Featuring Ted Cruz Rand Paul Nikki Haley. Marco Rubio Kellyanne Conway Mike pompeo Glenn Beck Perry in Susan Collins all telling you that in their own words all in their own words about why you cannot trust Donald Trump. This is the real RNC convention want to talk to the trump supporters from him. I. Don't know who you are and I don't know why you like this guy. Whatever he does. He accuses everyone else in. The man cannot tell the truth, but he combines with being a narcissist a narcissist at a level. I don't think this country's ever seen. and. My concern is that he would grab up that power and really treat the country as sort of his little bully feifdom. Donald Trump is everything I taught my children not to do in kindergarten. Exploiting. Working Americans for. Forty years. is a race baiting seeing phobic religious? Says he's for the Little Guy, but he's actually been a lot of businesses on the backs of little. Donald trump the other day said that it quote if he tells US soldier to commit a war crime, the soldier will just go to. I don't. Think. Donald Trump. Has as even read the Constitution knows what's in the Constitution A toxic mix of demagogry and mean-spiritedness. Nonsense. 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When Political Economy Mugged Us

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12:24 min | 2 months ago

When Political Economy Mugged Us

"Hate trump cast listeners. What you're about to hear is a teaser for today's show. That's right. We've made one out of every four trump cast episodes exclusive to slate plus subscribers to hear this and all episodes ad free sign up for slate plus it's only thirty five dollars for the first year you can manage it go to slate dot com slash trump cast plus that slate dot com slash trump cast plus and thanks very much for listening. Hello and welcome to trump cast I'm Virginia Heffernan I am increasingly obsessed with this photograph of Kimberly Guilfoil. Of course, you all know her as the concert, the president's eldest son Don Jr. very proper normal person who left his wife and five children and twenty eighteen and came out as Gil foils escort around the same time. But the photo of Guilfoil I'm obsessed with is not. From two thousand eighteen or even two, thousand twenty and definitely not from Monday night at the Republican National Convention where she shouted to the heavens like media about something apocalyptic and terrifying and worthy of extreme volume I'm sure. But something I didn't get the content of 'cause I watched with the sound off and only the parodies anyway quickly turned to this other photo from way back. In two, thousand four, it's part of a glossy expensively shot spread in Harper's bazaar of what the magazine called at the time. The new Kennedy's camelot there she is the new Jackie, Kennedy Kimberly Guilfoil. Herself looking just like she does today if slightly more Mammalian, she's lying on what looks like a very scratchy but opulent debris. Surrounded by antique chairs I can't identify but let's just say Luik. And, the room is entirely trump. Ask The through the window you curiously see not Manhattan not. DC. But San Francisco Bay and there's Don Jr. who's holding kilfoyle in his arms while they're both on this scratchy multimillion dollar Tabriz rug looking slightly weird. Actually the more I look at Don Jr.. Yeah. Okay. He's clean shaven doesn't have the beard of now, but he's got the same haircut. Maybe his hair is lighter and then here I am zeroing in on his face and it is not done junior at all. If the new Jackie two thousand and four is the beautiful Kimberly Guilfoil in a shoulder black dress on that scratchy rug the new Jack Kennedy of two thousand four was Gavin Newsom Democrat then the mayor of San Francisco and married to Ms. Gill File. Now he's the Governor Gavin. NEWSOM and you know this is the governor of California the Bluest of blue. States. While his now ex wife camelot it couldn't last is stepping out with Don. Jr. In the reddest red events at the Republican National Convention and yet what hasn't changed in two decades is that the ruling class still makes porn he loved to each other on an getty's scratchy breeze rug in their Louis Tours, penthouses, and Kimberly Guilfoil is apparently always at their side. So that was around four hundred words, I just gave you on this photo and it's worth at least a thousand. So get into Google and find this new some guilfoil photograph and I'll leave the last six hundred words to you the produced, what in hey though I ask you has changed since two thousand four. If a Democrat Newsom, a trump bite don Jr. can pose in the same hideous style room with the same woman and the same raining conceit of Glamour. And how can we change give the bow talks arrest stopping being preserved an amber so that this photo comes to represent finally an obsolete set of aspirations as obsolete as an image of Marie Antoinette or one of those fat cats of the nineteenth century in waistcoats. This in many ways is the topic of my conversation with Kurt Andersen. Today Kurt is the host of the late great studio, three, Sixty and author of big ZILLION books most recently fantasy land how America went haywire and evil geniuses the unmaking of America, that's the recent book, and it is currently a New York Times bestseller I'm going to ask him about everything including that hideous photograph Kurt. Welcome to trump cast. Happy to be back. I am so glad you're here and I admit I had to read this book quickly, but it was. Easy to bolt down because you don't really want to look away it shipwreck that you're describing, but it's familiar and descriptions make it new again, and that is the fate of America over the past I'm going to say I think do it about forty years well, I do a quick American history for a couple of centuries in a couple of chapters but really the the focus begins where we you know screenplay, we would say seventy exterior. One. Thousand Nine hundred seventy two two thousand is the meat of it but I go on to the present day and and talk about what I always thought was the thing that just happened which is to say how unequal insecure and and bad art system got for most of its people but then I realized no, it was a lot more like a strategic class war than I ever realized. Partly because I was doing fine not being on the side of the people finding the class war, but certainly benefiting from the class war. Yeah. So this book evil genius is a kind of companion or an answer to or works in concert with your last book fantasy land. So give us the fantasy land thesis and then tell us how roles into thesis of the New Book I shall do that. Fantasyland was I mean both of them began with thoughts I began having around the turn of century like, wow. How did America get this way? Earned, and then how did America get this which the fantasy land what happened was how did we become? So a crazily religious as opposed to simply religious as a country and so unlike the rest of the rich world in that. And and more generally how did this I can believe anything I want super subjectivity get so out of control and I just finished when I started saying okay I'm going to do this. I'm going to try to do a book about this I just finished a novel much of which was set in the late sixties and I thought Oh maybe I, think it's a lot of the start in the late sixties. Do think in which I wrote about, but then I realized. No, it's it's a lot bigger and older and longer standing than that. This American I will invent myself I will invent a country. I will think anything I wish despite what the elite thanks obviously goes back a lot longer. So it's the end America invented modern entertainment, and so the kind of falsehoods fictions of entertainment jibed nicely with Americans natural predisposition to believe falsehoods and delusions if they were entertaining enough. So that's what Fantasyland is about how how that piece of our national character, which was a kind of chronic condition became an acute illness in went out of control over the last forty or fifty years. But then as I finished it as I was doing all that research and then as I was talking about it to people realizing well, that's just really half the story of how we got so fucked. That, the other half of the story is this very. not this kind of ambient irrationalism but this very deliberate effort by these vary rational people. Marching after Milton Friedman and economic libertarianism changed the whole political economy and how people thought about the market and and what was important than the prophets were all that were important and changed enough Americans minds about that thing that changed the system and made us yet again unlike any other rich country and how unfairly we we treat seventy five percent of our. Fellow citizens in economic terms. So that's how they do they. Are you know companion volumes really about about how we went from a country that scene child when I was young fairly equal and was fairly contented and boats rising together and yes people religious but they didn't try to bring it into the public sphere all the time to this mess were now. And you also these are central questions for trump cast that have been you know is. Trump and trumpism crazy or crazy like a Fox, and it's always been a question for the show and fantasy land has sort of the crazy part or it's like profusion of superstitions and supernatural. Cunanan, kind of stuff, and then this book is. Fun To write that these are less. Amusing people at least the characters thought populate the book that that are, as you say, actually, highly rational and doing something that was difficult to detect that kind of surgical operations in the eighties and nineties toward what we were. told frighteningly was deregulation and as a as a kid in the eighties I just couldn't be very afraid of deregulation. Exactly. You know when my mother told me breaking up, you know the big bell. At and T. was the worst thing that ever happened I you know I couldn't quite keep my eyes open. We have the Russians to fight and you were aboard child by all this tedium and I was aboard young man with all this change. It was death by a thousand cuts. There's this big idea of Oh. Let's make America like it used to be like a small town like Bedford falls right Ron Reagan will lead us there and then. Not. Enough People Let's stipulate I didn't vote. For Reagan, I always voted for Democrats I was a liberal, but we didn't quite look at the fine print of how this was going to be done nor oh yes. Of course, reaganism was all about gigantic unprecedented tax cuts for the rich and big business right away. So that was a big thing, but it didn't end social security and Medicare or or or stop environmental protection regulations it so it wasn't like. It's not what it's not so bad, right. But what they did in so many ways that I was unaware of like as you were with the regulation. They they did so many things that I really didn't even went back to this research. I hadn't realized that it was this this war on many many many theaters of war and many fronts and and special ops and in. So many ways of changing laws and regulations and codes and norms. We talk about norm so much these days and being broken but but my gosh in a generation and certainly in. Two they just they transformed this economy and didn't end the new deal. We still have a minimum wage law just minimum wages are not half what they were. We still have social security, but they just doesn't rise as much as it used to. So they didn't end the new deal, but they ended the kind of American consensus that the new deal and a kind of social democracy was a good thing. High again, Virginia here. So sorry to interrupt but that's the end of our slate plus teaser, but you can't stop listening. 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