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Helping Others and Punching Sharks with Susan Shaw

Cheers To Business

22:40 min | 8 months ago

Helping Others and Punching Sharks with Susan Shaw

"I always look out for opportunity to be able to help people, and ultimately if I'm not coming to the business table or to any table for that matter without being able to listen I find out what's going on in their lives, what their pain points are and then implement or help find a solution that might work for them. If I'm not able to do those things, then why should I even be at the table bats second to none in my book? It's no longer about the dime it's about being able to provide for others. Everybody welcome to the show today we have Susan shot and she's with Imax strategic and she's GonNa talk to us about key factors in building a business building relationship strategy and then automation. 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I had never met Johnny, our producer prep studios at the container yard kind of set this meeting up until I I did a little background and I'm really interested. You always say till your story, I see that telling your story and I moved here about five years ago. My Dad is originally from Mobile Alabama my mom is a small town sumter South Carolina girl they met while working together at Shell oil in Louisiana and the rest. Is History we moved all over the country I was actually born in Omaha Nebraska I have a sister that was born in Minnesota and the other two are born here they've moved all over and so I got this awesome experience at a very young age of unfortunately not growing up around immediate family but getting exposed to different cultures getting exposed to different walks of life very quickly and so having four girls co-boys I don't know if our parents knew what to do with. That or if they you know they knew what to do all along. But we all ended up in sports at some way down the road and and love it, and so we're always either playing or coaching or working in them, and that's been a really big shaper in my life. Something that I enjoy have taken a lot of life lessons from when I decided to move here five years ago I found myself three years into being a single parent my daughter is Eight years old now and I knew that, yeah. I could do it on my own. But as they wanted to retire I wanted to be able to raise her near them, and so I made a very personal move. It probably had something to do with taking that one run on the fair hope here and saying Okay God here's my arm. You can twist it I'm here it's beautiful over there and I absolutely love it. But from a business perspective I had worked in. Major marketing firms and and departments, and for vast different industries whether it be hospitality or construction, and just about everything in between, and so we had set up continuous improvement programs and innovation departments, and that was something that I always loved because it came down to helping people. So I have actually just recently pivoted but then again, who hasn't in the year twenty twenty, right but I've pivoted out on my own and for the first time ever I'm able to help multiple clients at once rather than just one company at a time to grow and succeed. So it's pretty exciting stuff going on. Yeah. That excites make growing businesses you know multiple ones. It's just exciting at the that was the biggest part of my career which helping people grow and watching the success. It's just it's more rewarding than a dollar any day. Yeah. It's the love of the game and and it's fine and would you know the rules of engagement for business and you can do it well, man that's exciting in its life. Changing it's transformational for people and to see them be able to grow and provide for their families and for the families of others of their employees of their teammates. That's second to none in my book it's no longer about the I'm it's about being able to provide for others. Now, you should really interesting right there actually whether down and listeners bags. Like thinking about going to business or recently going to have gone into business, our coverage just shook their life upside down and they saw opportunity hadn't you define rules of engagement in business good question and so I have a little bit different perspective I, always look out for opportunity to be able to help people, and ultimately if I'm not coming to the business table or to any table for that matter without being able to listen I, find out what's. Going on in their lives, what their pain points are, and then implement or help find a solution that might work for them. If I'm not able to do those things then why should I even be at the table? You know the financial part comes later on but to me, you know just launched this company EMEC strategic and we own a technology platform that's pretty darn powerful and it as a multi channel platform, you can set up amazing marketing campaigns. And there we are helping agencies and different types of businesses and it's really exciting. But at the end of the day, we set up image strategic than just INEX- expe- being the product because we wanted to be able to help people through that we didn't want to sell you a subscription model and say, here you go. Here's some training videos get on your way right figure it out. That's not fair. We want to get into the room you know. Obviously. We may or may not be able to at this point with the pandemic or at least will mask up for you. But we wanted to ultimately be able to build strategy and first and foremost build a relationship. So for me the rules of engagement of business start with building the relationship because you're not just dealing with business your building people, and if you're not paying attention to that core value that you're dealing with people across the table that. Lives to and have families, and your goal is not to better than them and their situation than just makes a little bit more challenging. You think it's more roles of engagement or rules of engagement who maybe a little bit both definitely a little bit of both. I think it's you said earlier not totally great is playing the game it is. It's a fun game. It can be painful sometimes, but it's it's stemming on but there's certain roles you follow off ethics of doing the right thing and trading people right. But we also take on different roles depending on the personalities talking to. Be Able to remember that not being so like a board up basically. That, you can't adapt to the people around me think huge. Exactly. And finding a solution that will help them not just help you that's key for me. You know we always say relationship I then build the strategy then automate where all about marketing automation and create helping you create those processes. But again, if we don't know yet the heart behind your business or the why right why you started then or or why you are where you are now than we can't back out of that to help you build a strategy to automate your systems to automate your marketing to automate your lead generation and ultimately you know that sounds silly. Will. Why do we want to evaluate? Why do we WANNA dive in the details and a lot of people say, why? Why are you asking me the personal questions? Those are the hard questions but I, promise you if you take time and you answer them honestly then we're GONNA make it a lot further in the long run and the automation becomes so simple and so much fun. You see this wild transformation within your business and you start to see it which I think is really neat. You start to see it within your teams that are around you so. I mean covid right now and everybody whether you're in a business that is scrapping to stay relevant and constantly pivoting or you are in a business that is downsizing or you are in a business that is having the best year ever which I know some of those you know scarce few and far between but they're out there there are businesses that are that are thriving through this pandemic. So whatever end of the spectrum that you are on everyone right now with this level of uncertainty where operating from fear and so if you can understand that whether you're in. A thriving business hey, what is tomorrow look like everything's changed for everyone around me you know what does the future look like for our business? What happens when this growth stops or if you are me and how am I going to feed my family tonight? How am I going to pivot to stay relevant? How are we going to the families of the people on our team? You know whatever end of the spectrum you can identify with the fact that there's an operation of fear right now in covert and if we can help eliminate that if we can help. Give the tools of communication or tools for communication during this crisis. Then I think we're all going to be a little better off. At least will decrease the negativity. I've always said since this thing started that I stopped crying get out of the corner and look around round properties because if you have if you see an opportunity in new price at fairly and it's a win, win win, it's to me it's always three wins win for me. When you a win for people around us, absolute end name, those three things again, you've said three things a couple of times Sharon. Yeah it ends in automation, but it starts with a relationship. So if you put the relationship I then build the strategy then automate automate becomes really simple and now you've got a thriving business. So relationship first strategy second and automate. So simple. That's what I love symbol in overthinking done over complicated. But I think that's what this is. Our conversation today is about is building a relationship strategy in automation a love it half Y embiid. Don't reinvent the wheel people you're not going to do it any different. You can take what somebody else's done and make it better but don't try to start from scratch. Somebody's done it. Yep. I used to work with one side somebody that always used to say that the best business ideas or stolen or the best ideas are stolen and I I was like, Oh, I, don't I don't. Even know if I, like that phrase because nobody likes the thief for the same time I resonate with it in that you know what if my idea gives you motivation to get up right? Like you said, get out of the corner get off your butt go start the business. If it gives you motivation to go find the funding to go pivot into space you know whatever it may. Be then run with it, absolutely run with it. If I show you my platform and you can build something better and cooler or we can partner and and you know you can take it in a different way. Do it but go play get your head back in the game and and go play. Have a little fun with it. Visit ultimately is a game for me and I don't. Say That, lightly right. They're going to be times that it will knock you down. It will knock you flat on your ass in it's not fun But if I've learned anything from sports, you you get right back up, you get in the game and your time to recover is nearby. So you're that time for rest is nearby, but you've got to build that into it says simply brilliant. I was checking you out. And in Cyber Stalker Promise I, found some old news clubs and you were with the mobile exports at. Correct. Yes and you rock the first triathlon in Mobile County it was held down a dolphin that is so cool is still going on it is it is called try the Gulf and Don Davis Judge Don Davis was really the brains behind that me and what a fun project I love to bring people together. That's actually what Amex means what it stands for and ultimately why again why I wanted to start EMEC strategic it's right down to the core and all those lessons that I learned from sports. Means to bring together and so we bring great brands together with the people that need them, but ultimately same thing for the triathlon right or for any other a sporting venue or sporting event even now in Cova days but but that event was so tricky. We had man sponsors to please and in what sporting event world or what event world do not have sponsors to please. But we just had a lot of things that we had to work through. We were putting ultimately swimmers triathletes out in the in this cove in the Gulf of Mexico right there in the mouth. Oh Dolphin Island and beautiful but the race director right before the race starts said something I will never forget and she says, Hey, we're GONNA get ready. We're starting this thing or. Right, and and she says, but if you see a shark, if you see a bull shark, just punch it and move on. And I'll tell you the gasps that came from the people that by the way had. Most of them had never been to dolphin island before and had never been in this water before who were already a little nervous and it was what you call a sprint triathlon. So this is a perfect traff on for beginners. So already having that anxiety of being a first timer for a lot of these athletes. They have trained. They probably trained in pools may not have stepped foot in open water to train yet but they're getting told, hey, don't worry about your newness nerves ucs star shark punching you swim for your life. and. Exactly. See a shark you just move on. sponging move on. Burgh. So we had a lot of fun with that one. It was a it was a good time and. I gotTa tell you some of the the people I made lifelong friends out off often island because some of those people out there just you know bent over backwards to make this event happened for their community Ultimately, it brought in tourists from all over the country the. Thirty some states that we brought people from the first year. So it's really neat to see those results come out of that effort what a legacy to be able to part or something like that. That continues on absolutely. Disease, it tell me about your new venture. Strategic Shirt. EMEC strategic is really all about just that has people grow their businesses. So we take a very holistic approach from it but who we are we essentially are a marketing technology partner name, a business that you know that has one of those not many right, and so they either have a marketing agency partner or they have a tech partner. We are now bringing for the first time Kinda CMO's CFO's to the same table or the agency to the table. As well, we're a rate, a resource agencies for also resource to small to large businesses even start ups in that space as well. So we have a wide array of clients what we have in houses really unique it's called digital experience platform digital experience platform is essentially marketing automation. We developed triggered communications and digital advertising placement also in one spot. So now for the first time ever you are actually in the same interface in the same platform able to. Spell out and map out your customer experience with your brand and build relevant campaigns having it in one interface or having one platform means this. You're putting five pennies in and getting seven out. I can tell you the exact Roi in it, and if you're a marketer I think that resonates with you the most being able to or having been addressed of, Hey, what's the Roi on this? Well, hang on I gotta go art eight automated or manually automate six different reports and try to get you a number try to see how many impressions we had or how many clicks we add in this area and Qualify that into you know real revenue that we generated for the company and very, very few people out there can answer those questions well for their businesses and so we're bringing a technology that's not only powerful but it's game changing in the way that you market because you're getting down to what's working and what's not allowing you to stop spending the money on what's not working. Funds on what is working. So so that's kind of what we do we. We help navigate that customer experience process and We love doing it who doesn't need a good experience right now right especially with everything going on in our world. You more proactive marketer for the marketer. Sure absolutely. So we actually deal with the marketers inside businesses we deal with you know small businesses that don't have a marketing department we deal with large businesses that do have a full marketing department. We also work with the agencies as they are tech provider as well. We have some some larger clients that have wanted to that have an in house marketing team that want to utilize our platform and used Xp Our digital experience platform to have a better experience and better constant engagement with their clients or customers especially now that so important to make sure this feels like our world's change. In every day and we want to be able to provide some normalcy in some real time communication because back to the relationship building right at the end of the day, it's not about if you communicate when you want communicate, it's about if you can communicate when your customers or your clients need you to communicate. So if my client is Kevin to me at nine o'clock at night or eight o'clock at night and I, don't I'm not able to get them a good answer and we have an eight second attention span these days I'm onto somebody else right and so are there on December the US? They need to be able to find that information quickly and unfortunately SEO game it's it's just not doing it for people anymore. So it's kind of a race to the bottom SEM. And so we WANNA make sure that we're we're giving some opportunities to level the playing field for businesses across the US. It makes common sense to me that the way even Seo's were new but now it's so flooded. The Seo's what are they gonNa get you is to See you seventy seven thousand Google searches per second. That's insane. How do you stand out in that? How do you stand out in your Seo Game? You'RE SEM Games not working for you. Anymore I promised that you go out issue people dim of this tale where you're failing or where you're where you're hits are said that. You keep doing the things that work. Yes. Absolutely. We have five different digital advertising placement capabilities in their meaning. You can buy different types of digital ads there and lead them bleed people right back into your campaign. So that's that relevant targeted communications we a lot of variable data so that you are no longer just sending the same yelling type of message out to your entire contact list. You are now getting really hyper focused on what's relevant to them whether it be geographically where they live whether they're male or female whether they have certain shopping habits whether they are worried about back to school options whatever. The product or service may be. We're now able to give it to them in a way that's just relevant and timely and something that they may be looking for. So would images come from I M M I X so is actually derived from the Latin word mixed us and a mixed is ultimately means to mix to combing wool or to bring together and for me that's a faith piece bringing together people and helping them thrive, and so I love the art of that. It helps people I would be nowhere where I am today would have not had a single damn experience that I've had today without. The people that have helped me along the way or have mentored me or have a come alongside. You're giving me a leg up when I needed it, and so we're really all about bringing great brands together with the people that need them. Their target markets are new target markets, new audiences but ultimately, that's where AMAC comes from. It's a verb and we WANNA make sure that we well, and so in order to do that, we start with a relationship. That's kind of how it all ties in for us. Susan we've covered a lot of ground I'm love your talking about building relationships strategy and then automation. When people WANNA get a look at what you got to help them develop new ways in a crowded market. How do they get in touch with you? You can reach us on any of your favorite social media platforms imax strategic. You can also check us out at www dot AMEX. STRATEGIC DOT COM image spelled I m I x you can also drop us a line at hey at imax strategic dot com. And ask US Your Business Questions. We love that man if there's something that you feel like you're going to you need help with there's anything that we can do to cyst dravis align. We want to try to find a solution for you whether you become a client of ours or not. We're GONNA try to help you move to the next dot. So to speak a fantastic, you know I think my cheers. For today his here's the people like you think outside the box and develop something that is ever changing ever changing everything day in growing. So obscures to you today. Thank you. Well, you said it best. It's ever changing it best but also, all cheers you're right back in that you know thanks for just developing a great podcast in helping businesses not only locally but nationally to it's really impressive what you're doing. And bring in some really interesting people to the table I'm to be on that list now and can't wait to hear what else do you do next will thank you I'm honored to have you on today. Is that what we really cool conversation so it's amazing. Great People admit on the ship I. Love It. Well, I'm looking forward to the next time. Let's chatter at least grab a drink we can. Cheers. And were. One deal. Well, hey have a fabulous day. Thanks for your time. This is fun. Pay If you like the show today please read down on I tunes, Air Youtube or any where you get your podcast and rate us tell friend Fan, now gas. Please, be sure to subscribe to cheers business podcast on itunes or anywhere else that you get your podcast, visit our facebook and be sure to give us a like and if you have any questions or topics, you'd like us to discuss shoot us an email from the website. CHEERS TO BUSINESS DOT COM.

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Hour 3: 8/13/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

37:10 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3: 8/13/19

"The paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the capital one sabre card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores and one percent on all all other purchases now. When you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply the cried passion than patching tree of of college football leaves here the paul finebaum show our three podcast program is live live and underway and we're glad you're here. It's been a good one so far. More of your calls were guests as we finally start to turn the page on summer looking looking ahead to fall. Let's grab some calls now terry in san jose california military. Hey paul. Thank you for taking my call thank you. I know you've been talking about scheduling and i wanted to bring up something. I'm a u._w. Graduate university washington and starting next year for the next eight years. There's movie playing michigan home and away ohio state home and away and michigan state home and away cancer. We could lose all those games or some about those games. It doesn't make any difference in seattle. We wanna see these big big time programs come to come to you and whether we lose or whether we win when important to see big time programs now i'm looking at alabama scheduled this year and they have new mexico state southern miss and and western carolina jesus you know alabama we have better scrimmage with the three and four dukes then those kind on the schools. I'm surprised that the the alabama fans don't demand bigger programs coming into their stadium or is it winning the national championship. Yeah i think we i think we lost call but let me let me say <hes> this <hes> i i do think the schedule schedule is is is embarrassing. <hes> primarily because of the non conference game alabama has played some great games in in that opening spot issue number three a couple of years ago wisconsin virginia in your tech clemson michigan southern cal this year they they ended up with a clunker. There's no way to sell that game. It's terrible opening game after that alabama doesn't need to apologize apologized. They play an s._e._c. schedule they have l._s._u. On on the schedule this year <hes> they they have other important games both home and away. It's it's really the first game that is deluded the alabama schedule but it's going to get better <hes> there's a there's a home at home with wisconsin with texas and alabama doesn't need to really apologize about its future schedule. Squirrel is up next needs not to apologize about anything. No apologies here and thank thank you for taking my call and i didn't call to talk about this but you got a gentleman earlier efforts the <hes> hurricane camille and the anniversary and i didn't realize it. Was this wig realize. I'm fifty years but <hes> i live out. Dolphin island bought they. I was about ten years old and that happens. I have memories of camille but we didn't get the damage in in that part of uh of alabama that mississippi but ironically that hurricane cut an island a barrier island in half the are you aware now i did not realize is <hes> that's amazing are there. There's a worn island. You've got ship island. You've got cat island. You've got some barrier islands off because mississippi and about ten miles off shore and that hurricane and literally divided an island in half. There's a cut ship island in half the now there there was a east and west ship and ironically the corps of engineers join in those two islands together this year. They're actually still working on it. They've <hes> they dredged it up and joined the two islands together and that was a gap of a couple of miles just wanting a little small yeah that's amazing. I'm actually been out there the past two weeks <hes> on two different nights. That's a great floundering spot. I don't have you ever done that. Floundering yeah i had the i used to go fishing early on <hes> been deep sea fishing. I've never been floundering. I my now my career. It's given floundering for a long time. It's a whole different aspect of fishing. When you go at night you go with a life and it lights up. You're in about a foot and half the water and literally really these things are just laying there and use walk up and stabbed him with a spear. It's crazy. It's crazy <hes> you. Anybody can do that so you need to give him shots with that but i know the reason i called is actually competent one of your regular caller <hes> and that would be your number one leg comfort champion tuscaloosa believe it or not <hes> <hes>. I don't know if it was that he's maybe growing as a person or maybe the changes medication but regardless. I thought he showed a lot of restraint would net yesterday yeah i do too. I think jim is a sensitive human being and i think he he sees a severely challenged in troubled individuals so <hes> he went in easy well again that that kids not at the gym fleet and jim didn't want to have lower self that level so how can you have enough without ration- for that guy other net and <hes> you know he brings up you know his place in your book that when you wrote a few years ago he's fifty miles away. Thank you for the the <hes>. Thank you for signing my copy so years ago and i apologize for this but i have. I just now getting around to reading it thirty in amount. You're just now leaving memphis to go to get to page fifty four you. Can you can put a question. What pace needs to be on the listen. <hes> the book is five years old. It's still available. <hes> it doesn't matter anymore whether people by an cashed the checks. I'm i'm a reader history paul. I mean i'll probably we read thirty bucks since i got that from you but but i'm reading mostly historical things and things of that nature but i'm getting around to this one i'm going to. I'm not sure i ever read the book. Well you need to try okay. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you yeah once about <hes> about people that write books once they're done. You're you're. You're under the next project by all means. Candy is in west virginia. Hello kenny hey paul. How are you doing. We're doing great candy. Welcome to the show got. <hes> had a couple of small suggestions for the show but i did want to respond to andy from chicago. I just think it's kind of ironic think that somebody that lives in the murder. Capital of the country can call out of town. He's never been to and caller. I hate town. I thought that it was kind of odd <hes> well. You know people from chicago shoot people from chicago because they had to live with people people from chicago pretty much but <hes> i i had to two small things there after listening to your show their last week <hes> you you know with all the all the clemson people <hes> first thing i thought we would do is change the the the network to the south carolina educational channel but <hes> <hes>. I thought i was having a medical emergency. They're like thursday or friday. I was uh always have your show one. I don't always watch it but i listen to it. While i'm doing other the things that i had <hes> i had to show one of my kitchen cutting up you know some kids of chicken and stuff and i was listening to a call and after aretha man i really didn't get none of that and then another call came on and it got worse. I was picking up every third word. I thought i'm having a aneurysm or many stroke or something and then i go in and i sat down i i thought i needed to take a break and i started to watch watching this show and the next caller coming in. I didn't understand any of that either and then i realize i'm i'm perfectly fine. They were all clemson callers the thing i was trying to remember what day that was but <hes> i realized well i non one i. I didn't have to call the third one. I thought i'm fine you know so so so i came up with lasantha and i thought it's hard for people to get along if they just don't understand stay in each other and this is going to be kind of like the clapper you know after say if you know it's like you know when the clapper came out man what now think of that you know so simple but you know what i think you need. Is we have to have subtitles you know for you know certain certain callers so that we can understand each other and a- and i think you can work in both ways and so we can understand them but also you know we can. Have you know that can go two ways so if you say something mm for example like <hes>. I agree with what you just said. They'll here all right or if you say i would prefer to call my show anymore anymore. They'll here going out of hill so i think that that might help us because if you can't understand each other you definitely can't get along aw. I wonder if there's i wonder if there is a book <hes> decoding clemson ease. I bet there is but i bet pop-up gotta have pictures and also after today i you know after i heard that other boy call in about ned you know now now. I know what net stands for its needs educational diploma a up. I thought there was something air but you know he's. He's a ninth grader. So now now i totally i understand he just wanted to follow in star the pot a little bit and rattle the cage and <hes> you know that that definitely worked kenny always a pleasure is your thank you matt in north carolina. Hella matt hey paul. Thanks for taking my call buddy. Hey listen man. I'm glad football season back and and i can tell when football season's back that you can't get into your show but that's all good man. Hey did you get to see jarret stidham this weekend. Play for the patriots at all. I <music>. I watched a number of games. I missed that game. How did he look fall. He looks he looks amazing man. I'm telling you right now that kid while they're the best five he could have wound up in <hes> you know he's with bill check who basically wanted best debate stojan n._f._l. Without without a doubt no doubt but i'm gonna tell you paul aw he was threatening needle. He was throwing ball. God with dropping balls. He was putting right in your hand. I mean bomb long pat and i didn't know he could throw the ball that will i mean you know. It always seemed like when he was with house on it was some kind of gimmick or something going on with them but <hes> you know put him in the pocket. Let him throw and i'm telling you he he he looked really really good. I think <hes> his youtube is really going to be bright and i tell you fall you can go to n._f._l. Network they show those games over and over and over yeah right. I also find it. Yeah you are not recorded or whatever and then for lasting. I wanna say something quickly about. He's playing some fans all right so you win two national championships in three years and then you call paul finebaum show crying about him calling you a vagabond walk walk into debt. I understand okay. I'm gonna do football fan okay. We'll never see a national jammie so these guys need to get over. Overman need to toughen up a little bit <hes> but but again i i have to agree with most of your callers it. It just seems like they're just they can't handle winning man. That's what it seems like to me so <hes> really called in just talk about them but the clemson stuff keeps coming up but i appreciate you let me get on and i love to hear what you have to say about what you thank you as students career is going to be later on when you when you get a chance to see him matt thank you. I'll definitely check that out big fan of jurors so let's take a break morecombe eight five to four two seven two eight five. It's been a busy shows not listening to the paul finebaum show podcast glad you are here more of your calls at eight five five to four two seven two eight five carlos in miami hello carlos. Hey mr feinban. Thank you for taking my phone call here sunday florida but his raining lots of having to go rhino and your name sir thank you <hes> i have a i have a couple of questions for you sir <hes> number one. What's your take about the quarterback you right now and <hes>. How do you see the long haul for u._m. Future and finally who wins the game gators or miami yeah. I think manny diaz is a good coach and he's brought some spirit back to that place. A desperately needed it. <hes> i mean outside outside of a couple of weeks. Democracy era seemed <hes> comatose. I mean he did going briefly but it didn't last and that's the key carlos. Do you need to run. Apparently he ran. Thanks for the call carlos. I see florida winning that game name. <hes> brad is in destin abraham. Welcome to the show hi paul how you doing we're doing well. Thank you very much i was i was just going to give you a quick nick scenario about the about the play offs and about <hes> clemson <hes>. How much margin of era do you think that they have. An example would be what what clemson loses to texas in them. That would be huge. Yeah go go and they run on the type of okay. Where is their quality win coming from. They don't have one okay. The highest ranked team that they will be playing is is like number thirty one or thirty two so <hes> you know it to me. They have very little margin for error and if they were to lose to to say syracuse or someone like that <hes> then to meet. There's a good chance they're they're sitting on the outside looking in they could and what they would. I need <hes> they would need a couple of things they would need south carolina to be really good which is debatable and they would certainly need a formidable double opponent in the championship game. Good luck trying to find that the conference. There's not one no saw i think they would <hes> i mean if you saw a bunch of undefeated or one loss teams. I mean they're going to go to the back of the line. They should yeah. I think <hes> one of your callers earlier. I think made a real good point in our said if <hes> if l._s._u. Only lose one game. Let's say to alabama and then say allah bama georgia face for the s._e._c. championship and if alabama georgia and say l._s._u. or texas a._m. All only have one loss gosh okay. There's three one loss s._e._c. teams. That's mathematically possible okay. I don't see you know what i mean bread. You cannot lose a home game against a team that you are a prohibitive favorite over there. You go and you know it's possible that oklahoma could run the title. Will you know they're in and if ohio state runs the table there in the big ten champion i i mean even with one loss michigan could get in i think as long as they win the big ten because they would have more quality a better yeah no the clinton clemson is does not have any room for error and and by the way <hes> conversely <hes> alabama has a little bit more because they can make it up on the back end but <hes> eh they better not lose the wrong game you you hit the nail on the head and the other thing real quick. I think last week or a couple of weeks ago. I think you at that <hes> you took a little bit of issue with whether or not <hes> dabbagh who's gonna give kelvin bryant a national championship ring right yeah okay. Let me ask today a couple of years ago when <hes> if alabama head won the national championship after lane kiffin had left lane kiffin deserve a national championship ring i think he would have yes okay and <hes> what if it was not telling brand. What if it was a walk on that that quit we at after two or three games yeah listen. I mean that's a that's a fair point th- the kiffin situation he was there through fourteen. Game is a walk around who quit. I probably wouldn't give one to listen to the arguments. In favor of dabo are are very strong. I was simply making the point. They had he done it. As long as his team went along with him i would we would be praising him today for showing class but in that that's an issue that <hes> there are two sides to and and <hes> and ultimately the final arbitary head coach yeah of course i haven't been i haven't been a coach. You know one of the things that you do is you go ahead and lay that out ahead of time. You know if you let everybody know that's in the building <hes> this year when we win the national championship we win the conference <hes> you are not part of the team when the last whistle blows. I'm sorry you don't get ring or a watch or anything like that so <hes> i i. I thank you for the call. I think it's a good debate even though i said what i did i certainly tried to be reasonable <hes> i i. I respect the the opposite view. It's it's it's really a close call and some people ain't things are close call. <hes> jerry is up next in kentucky a hell of jerry hi paul. Thanks for taking college. Thank you not lose up mark suits and kentucky and maybe kind of why he doesn't get as much respect as deserves. I think that's part of that is is you know when he came mindy kentucky. He didn't complain about the players he had. He didn't find about you know what he hasn't ross or he just went to work and i don't think there's a great appreciation ration- even not kentucky people about how bad the program wasn't he came in. I mean joe filtered cream classes for rights in the mid sixties on average previous four. He had maybe eighty five guys refugee calva players you know nil brown said that that was the least amount of division one player he's ever seen on a team including troy. I think you can make the argument that mark stoops inherited the war situation kentucky in terms of the mini coach said maybe john rate when he followed troy bradshaw and to see he what he's done and turn that around for now. You've got eighty thousand that team salary. You guys are s._e._c. Calva players and that's why kentucky's doing what they're doing. It's this depth. You haven't seen anything like what mark sutures doing. This may bear bryant was here and rich brooks is on matt. Jones show a couple of weeks ago and this the best kentucky rostrum years this ship ocean. I certainly have great respect for rich <hes> i i like quote the fact that he's done it methodically and and i think you know we're not about to say jerry he he couldn't have done it without the support of mitch barnhart earnhardt and you like the president there they they. He needed them to stand behind him when it looked like he was close to the end about three or four years ago. Oh yeah i was at that mississippi state gaming. I remember that very well and i think that that's the biggest thing to say right now. Is you know <hes> frankfurt's used to say to kentucky was what like oklahoma the home and brassica with the big blue nation that they would support football at the university never did right and finally right now you can say the university of support and football and all these folks think kentucky's going away just joshua bending snell you know the offensive line's probably better this year than they got eight. Guys complain the defensive line. I mean this. This team could be better than last year's team as a whole team because the authenticity better and jerry let me let me say this about the fans there <hes> i really appreciate it. I mean i remember sitting under last year talking to calipari in front of about ten thousand kentucky fans at our show on that saturday morning before the georgia game i mean it was just one of the most most amazing scenes that i've witnessed <hes> in a long time because you just didn't expect ever to look out on a kentucky crowd. How many people without much excitement we will take a break more to come in the final ninety minutes of this tuesday afternoon. You're listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. Welcome back go. Let's continue with more calls. Zach is in kentucky zach. Thank you get after him. Hey how you doing great. Thank you very much. Hey it happens cellphones jim in ann arbor jim go right ahead how you doing paul. Thank you jim good afternoon. Hey i just wanna. I kinda listening to this conversation. When ed i feel like you guys are maybe pollen on and maybe not really understanding his point. What is his point well. I think he's putting in maybe ninth grade language with the rest of us adults kind of know and since that is the rest of the pack is essentially eventually caught up with say that i mean he is a great coach. He's won a lot but you know jim. How has the rest of the pack caught up with saving well. <hes> easily davos beat him twice. Kirby should have beat him twice. Should have i mean shoo. Shoo hefner freeze beat him twice the reality. Is you know georgia. I mean alabama is a great program but i think i think what ninth grade lead was. Trying to say is that kind of the moment in the sun is receding and the rest of the feel. I really think alabama tastes a huge setback this year. I think georgia wins the s._e._c. outright. I think they end up playing michigan and the championship so i yeah jim. If if what you say turns out to be true then i would agree. I mean there are signs. I i can't tell you that having watched this over the years and studied history and seen history. We live that <hes>. There are a few cracks would make you wonder but losing one game is not going to end it. <hes> it's going to take more than that and and right now all all nick sabin has done is suffered a very bad loss in the national championship well of course i agree with that but i think we are beginning to see kind of the if you equated the golf terms. He's probably like whole seventeen in my opinion. Just one quick thing about med. I mean as has an outside or listening to ned is basically like listening to jim from tuscaloosa like the same caller so you you essentially have a ninth grader who's uneducated located and then you have an adult who's uneducated who just shouts the whole time there in my opinion is the same person so i don't know what why jim calls him and missile and a fool. You can't even understand the guy when he calls in. You have to like rewinding. Slow it down so i think everybody needs to pump the brakes on that. He's he's saying saying what a ninth grader in ninth grade language but we all probably know to be true well jim. I didn't understand until a few minutes ago that he was a ninth grader. I do understand dan or comprehend. I should say better what he's saying but <hes> back to your saving point <hes> the key is one of the things i'm watching this year is his coaching staff and a lot of praises already been handed out but that that's where the slippage came last year and the year before and if he can shore that up then then i think that would counter your argument but i do appreciate the call <hes> certainly it's always always fascinating to hear people from ann arbor which is one a one and a half national championships at michigan in about seventy years right off a guy who's won. Five of the last ten ralph is is in tennessee ralph. Go right ahead. I go house man. They <hes> <hes>. I just got a message for chicago. A you know we're we're. We're here mo. Actually we're not are you. Are you there <hes> okay. We'll see we'll get you back <hes> well. I hate to make a return call but when i hear the stupidest jim and it's not me like the speed stupid remarks i've ever heard and he calls me. Child like the knights greater ned right. I mean ball's gonna. Why don't you defend me. I made it. I mean i defend you. Jim i tell you i think you really needed defending their because <hes> the guy defending. I think you heard the end. I thought it was better just to shoot his argument down in one shot versus what you say. What did you say to shoot him down. Well i mean i it. His argument is infallible. When you consider michigan. His team has won one and a half national championships in seven years saving his one five in the last ten. Oh he's a bama hater. He knows i'm from baba. He knows i've been a bama fan and grew up playing anyway so that's and he he's a hater and most essentially essentially he's delusional idiot related is louie. Certainly he's an idiot for what he said quite meet or ninth grade are you moron and he's a he's just delusional about his state theory or alabama thing that can happen is this when alabama shows they've lost there. He can talk this. They've been talking this crap seven eight years every year. Especially after saving loses he comes back and wins another one and they can't talk doc back down. That's what the idiots trying to do expected to happen again this year i i don't. I don't know what i'm telling you you know. The the facts are not there for what they're saying that the fact you up then they can talk. These are just typical buffoon nitrate type pacers paul. I've been through this all my life. You know that go to <hes>. How do you overcome people like that jim. I try to just ignore them or do what i'm doing. Basha l l i know to do i mean it makes me so that really makes me angry that are more like that comes out and talks like he knows what he's talking about and i feel i. That's why i'm calling. I promise you i told you i'm a reactor. I call to try to get some sense back into people with a fool. Ooh kim comes on the air. I promise you that's what i do. I sincerely mean that man sure absolutely well. I i uh-huh worked up. I didn't take out get worked up again today but when you let that i'm sorry i just that makes me so angry jim all right yeah. I don't know what jim said are there but <hes> man coaches in new york coach. Go right ahead paul. How are you good to talk to you jack you. I listened to all these people screaming and yelling. We gotta straighten him out in a calm way number one. They told her about alabama schedule schedule for years because what savings done nobody wants play michigan. All of a sudden is going to be good. Nobody wants to a play him so he plays tough opening game and he and he falls into the southeast conference schedule. Now you talk about clemson. We we talked months ago about clips and schedule. When syracuse was your toughest game they play in. They can't play in the southeast conference so that you can throw it out the window the other problem. I sees with this transfer portal thing that started all of this. This was the coaches coaches being able to move before the season ended well. Now you know nobody honors a contract attract anymore. Whether it's a college scholarship or a coaching contract everybody gets up to moves. I mean we're looking at dallas list with zeke elliot. You know what i find was. Yona don't play do signed a contract on your contract paul. You got a contract doc with the network. I see you on it to do it. In admiral admirable thing it's just gotten out of hand that people want want to come and go and do they please without any responsibility or consequences great call. Thank you very much from new new york. We'll take a short break or not done yet. No telling what's going to happen the final hour and twenty minutes. You're listening to paul. Finebaum show podcast. Let's continue joe is up next. Hey joe hey joe. Hey paul and joey show up for a long time and <hes> one of my favorite parts. <hes> has always made a lot of sense but it's <hes> gives you less so hey listen <hes>. What do you think about <hes>. There's also last year alabama saving even <hes> using the for this year's preparation. Do you think the <hes> do you think he's <hes>. I dunno trying to tell us what were the injuries stories. You think he should practice to these guys. I mean these guys know what dude easy to do with their effort in that game he's picture. They're all yeah but let me ask you this. <hes> whatever happened last year it it does weigh on their mind but as soon as as soon as the season starts. I don't think anti game is going to matter one bit then becomes a a week to week odyssey and you guard against injuries which have already happened. You guard against <hes> the problems that occurred last year what happened at the end of last year. <hes> a number of things began to weigh on that team. Attrition was probably the most significant defensively and also to was bank was banged up a little bit. I'm not saying he was severely injured but he wasn't since the same player and and what else happened to he started seeing some great defenses like mississippi state auburn was good georgia was really good and clemson was great right right. I agree and i just wonder if <hes> if maybe <hes> safe wants to make sure i mean he always wants to make sure they prepare. Maybe he's more focused. The alabama football like i have and you know every whenever whenever saving saving is one championships he probably shouldn't have won these loss on the i mean when you're in the championship game every year. That's going to be a factor but <hes> there's. There's not a lot you can do about that. Now you can have mike tyson and and in <hes> stephen a smith and and kevin elko and everybody else who knows how to speak come down and talk to your team. All you're trying to do is get them through the summer. Get them ready for the first game which is a terrible game by the way and when alabama be tested <hes> they'll be tested at south carolina. It'll be tested. It's a texas a._m. <hes> <hes> l._s._u. and auburn in the championship game. This is not going to be a fourteen week of of being tested every week. This isn't the n._f._l. All right i agree i just i was just <hes>. I don't know i just want her to see if the you start seeing these injuries early hope you they don't continue. Hopefully you get very concerned. I would agree. It's it's a scary thing to see. Jimmy is in chicago. Hey jimmy hey paula first thing. I wanted to say that list of top. Ten college towns the first one i've ever seen by any publication that didn't have chapel hill in the top ten. I was kind of a surprise there because they have charlottesville in there and they're always kind of grouped with a chapel hill but i'm guessing maybe the football part yeah yeah i i. I don't remember something about lists and i do not know how this list came together but their subjective charlottesville charlottesville college station knoxville oxford boulder columbia ann arbor austin athens and madison i mean there are two or three in there that <hes> <hes> they're really floored me. I bet floor jew as well yeah yeah. It was kinda surprising but in reference to <hes> <hes> the caller about about fifteen minutes ago he was talking about you know what kind of margin would clinton add if they lost to texas a. and m. where they wouldn't have any margin for error. Are you know as as a matter of fact what kind of interesting about their schedule is an goes to clemson in the second game of the season and then the very read next week. Clinton goes to syracuse for road game and i really think anybody's going to be clemson son playing them early. Is maybe your best opportunity because they're having to replace their whole defensive line then they've got some other key team players you know that aren't back a course like eddie n and and renfro and guys like that and even though you're going to be <hes> replacing them with very talented alad players they're not experienced yet and even the <hes> the very best athletes can take them up to half the season into you know just figure out physically and mentally what it's like to play at this level before they get you know so they they could be vulnerable there but if they i lost a and you know hey they can't lose any other dame's i'd call last week and mention that hey they lost that game <hes> the first game after kelly brian when it quit and trevor lawrence started against syracuse when <hes> lawrence got that concussion and they converted that four th and ten in the last minute and a half to win the a game. They lost that game. You gotta wonder where they would've been at. Because where would there big victories have been over oklahoma yeah how so that would have been a question if they would have gotten it last year. So that's one of the weaknesses of playing in a week conferences that you can't lose you know i mean in order order to eliminate all doubt you know so it's gonna be you know really interesting you know as far as that goes and then you know as far as alabama goes. I mean <hes> loosen players before tap. Even in has become almost a routine occurrence. I mean two years ago. <hes> it wasn't quite that soon soon but they lost terrell lewis and kristen miller there to pass rushers in the first half of the opener against florida state lost for of the year although lewis did come back you know to the playoffs and then you know last year they lost a louis again and <hes> <hes> chris allen before the season even began so it's just one of those situations you have to deal with football's a collision sport and people always say well elevator should win. They always get all these four five star guys with the reason you got to recruit as many of those guys that you can cause stuff like this is gonna happen. You gotta have dad yeah no. You're you're absolutely right and and i don't mean this the wrong way. 'cause i hate to see it. Watch it over the weekend but everyone deals with it. Alabama obama is better equipped to deal with it than anyone but it still hurts right ahead and somebody like georgia the way they've recruited the way clinton senate recruited. They has a better chance of overcoming it whereas somebody like florida who've lost one of their top defensive backs last week that really hurts it's fan because they don't have their recruiting to where you know you know so i it's just a big factor and it's you know it's just the way it is in the sport award you know and again with you know the playoff system the different conferences ginny. Thanks for the call hate to run. We're at the end of the third hour.

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Once again from the long tunnel dim light at the end of it with another homes allowing addition. It's sunday january thirty first. We got through january twenty twenty one and today. We have not won the two returning champions plus a very very worthy opponent. It's joyal johnson. Clare kramer and julia. Rasi everybody hello. Hi everybody low. thank you back. well you know. Here's the interesting thing about This particular trio is that Clare kramer is our ongoing champion. How many times you think you've won now clear at this this stretch. This is the third show in the stretch. Your third appearance. Yes in the stretch. Okay so That's why she's back today. And then when i first reinitiated the Return winner guests to come back on the next show policy. Julia was a winner on a show. A dan could not come back the next week so patiently waiting to get back in and then of course because we've got to to such to such strong competitors. I thought who do i bring in for the third slot on this one. And that's why joy al johnson came to bite you china. Get ken jennings zone. I like that. Yeah so if joy if you win today you're stopping two powerhouses in their in their forward momentum and also you get to come back next week. If if you'd like to you pressure you never got to say no. But that's the that's where we're at in. This pandemic is the prize for winning on. This show is getting to do it again. And from the sound of silence right now. I realize it's not the greatest prize. It's a pride prize you know. It's absolute pride prize. And i've said this many times in the pandemic of pride having pride in yourself is Does help you to keep from getting coal vague. And so the winner definitely It's safer than anybody else. It's also a bragging rights. Because i recently did a show where moshe casher he was like. Oh gioia. I don't think i've ever met you. I was like oh but beat you. Doug loves movies. So yeah that's always. That's nice right. He remembered most. He's the one he had like a five week winning streak on the show at one point because he never knew the answers he just always force the other players he just plays strategically and make them guests at so he kept winning. Even though he doesn't he's not that great with movie trivia so. I'm glad you've had that opportunity to put him in his place of felt so good there were last the round like yea you joyal are currently still in the south i am. I'm in atlanta georgia. Saving democracy won election at a time. Because i was you right. You went around and told everybody there. Hey got to vote for these These democrats yeah abrahams and me. So we do that. Black female about rushmore. Been there thank you so much for for working so hard and ankium. Yes joy al. Thank you so much and claire. How the last. Three in arts been three days since we spoke pow house of intrigue three to it's been good i just You know by the way. I was born in atlanta so Joyal i'm very glad to have you down there doing that work because it needs to be done. Thank you thank you. Thank you Let's see today. I just actually finished into which shooting with dr a dvd extra behind the scenes video. Little thing for my friends movies. That was fun. So we've been dancing all morning. And then i motor. Home am wow. That's a dvd. Extras are now just with their kids. Dancing around well. It's it's a really cute movie. it's funny it's a. It's a movie called dolphin island. And i'm like oh yeah i think i've seen he's like no. It's another dolphin movie. This one hasn't come out yet so you know adopted family friend movie and it for the dvd. They have a little dance routine where they teach the kids A specific dance. So it's really cute. It's a dolphin based dance it. not no. It's a caribbean based dance. Because i was already picturing you know that. Move when the dolphins get up on their own. Yeah they do back and forth. Oh yeah that's in the movie ten times. I'm sure it'll be in and out of the dance. I've been dolphins. There isn't a dance that's called the dolphin where you just replicate that. My friend said the dolphin out of everybody in the movie mitzi. The dolphin was the most consistent hitter mark every time. Did the trick the right way. Fritzy such a weird name for doll. Have you met mitzi friend june. The dolphin mitzi son paulie the dolphin at julia rasi as i said is back. Thank you for coming back. Thank you for showing us your baby. Elga baz warne. Fantastic baby aquino. It's very exclusive content. She's not online. Don't go google in. Julia rasi baby. Yeah that's that's primo content with this Enjoyable to to watch 'cause you know you know that goes and people like you want to see my baby. It's like well do you want to. Are you ready for the face. I'm gonna make so. That's why you didn't turn on your camera. Okay yeah. I wanna be like i want face to make of. That baby ended up being ugly. I i'm very confident about my baby's appearance you've got. Your baby is really i mean. Even i think even people who don't like babies would be turned around on on your baby Real quick box office. Update it's you know of course only like forty five percent of movie theaters in the us or even open and then they have limited capacities but nonetheless People still wanted to see denzel washington. Jared leto arguing over how to catch a serial killer in the little things number one at the box office with a mere four point. Eight million while dollar take then of course the crudes still number two wonder woman eighty four and third placed. Fourth place is marksman which begs the question. Who is mark and what it is man do you man. I got all right. That's the box office report. Now let's talk about. Let's give people some movie going. Tips signed for recommendation. Nation will start with clare. She's probably the least surprise this question because this is the third time you'll be answering it in a in a week now. Yes what's a movie that you can recommend. You went hard with a baby driver episode slam poetry me talking about baby driver. Somebody baby driver talk preaching to the converted. Because i think a lot of a lot of You know people listening to this show or very aware that movie but it never hurts to To continue talking about how great it is for anybody who missed out. Yes what do you think for today. What's your recommendation okay. I'm pleasantly surprised with the movie that i watched last night which is new justin timberlake movie palmer on apple. Tv it was. It's a really great story about a kit. And of course. It has juno temple who we love from ted lasso who plays another variation of the character. She plays on ted lasso but the the sort of leg american trailer trash version. She's amazing The best part about this movie. It's a it's a family movie. I watched it with the kids. But it definitely. It's about a little boy sexuality and the acceptance of those around him that he you know he doesn't identify as anything yet because he's seven or eight and the way. The story is told is amazing. But the best best best part about calmer. Woolas dustin timber not recognizable as justin timberlake. You don't you. Don't watch the movie like for me. When i watched like saving private ryan. I'm like oh yeah. There's not damon getting rescued in world. War two you here. You totally forget that this is the international. You know extremely successful singer. And he's actually. He's you know what he is. He's lake a barren ball type performance but toned down. So he's really really good and you don't get pulled out of the story by the fact that it's justin timberlake and the movie. He's a good actor. I you know. I i buy a hundred percent whenever i see him in the trolls movie. But you know what he he does it. he's not acting in this he's he. He's not giving up performance. He's not trying to vote. He's not doing those things that we hate from people on camera. He's just being he's being in the moment and it just works. The little kid in this is phenomenal. I don't know his name Look it up. But he's he's amazing. And i i really loved the movie and it's a great movie to talk. If you have kids that you want to open the conversation about you know sexual morality and how people identify and start talking about that community and different ways in which people identify. It's a great movie to watch to that conversation with young kids scale of one to four dolphins. What would you on mickie's on one to four mris. Give it a three minutes. It's on apple tv. Yes and it's already is out now or about came out like a couple of days ago. It just out. Yeah okay. I really liked it. It's funny those streaming services like the day when a big movie opens on it. You could have trouble finding on there. it's very odd. how they Make you search around for everything. Yeah no it. It is definitely i totally. I wanted to see it. The poster turned me off a little bit because it again. It's lake close up of justin timberlake dramatically in the name palmer's like what is this a movie about gulf slick wet. But i totally i one hundred recommended. I think everybody there's something for everyone in it and given a chance you'll be pleasantly surprised. All right yeah. Well that's You know if you have particular streaming service that's the great thing you can do is try. You know you can just try. Cbj can snow no penalty for for turning off or in my case often falling asleep. Like i know sleep during a movie. I know how much i was joined by whether or not. I want to pick up where i left off when i go bird of good. Yeah exactly lettuce a classic claire. Also i've like if i can make it to the end of the movie a great movie. It's the end so all right. Let's move on to julia. Do you have motion picture. You can recommend it could be new or old To the main thing is i'm hoping it's stream -able but well i was gonna suggest the wendy williams movie i however my the rain like knocked the power out in my living room on the dvr few hours. So i didn't get to finish it. So i don't feel comfortable fully recommending yet but still far you saw so far so good however i have. I did complete. It's not a scripted. Movie but i watched in it of itself on hulu. Does anyone know what that is. Yeah that's the You know the short answers magician. Her spoken word magician. But it's there's so much going on in that show but it's basically a one mad klay with With illusions yes and it. I don't even know how to describe it. Like i heard it was. It was very cool. Yeah i think that's why it's called in and of itself because that's one of those expressions people use without like the used to describe something and they've said nothing yes and it's it's all about. I don't know he's just. He's an amazing amazing illusionist. I don't know how he did the things he did. But then it gets really deep about self identity and how the world sees you and yeah it's there's some fun cameos in the audience and Yeah i saw it. I saw it a few times. I have to say i saw it because he played geffen here in los angeles You live yeah that it went to new york and i saw it a few times there because it's just like watching it on the on hulu now the he could stare right. You know exactly what's going to happen and you can't figure it out. Yeah it's a magic show you could see more than once and it's not like you go. Okay now. i know how nope but still like amaze- we will have these weird theories like i see people on twitter saying how they think some of his things are done. I'm just like you're not paying attention to what's happening like one point. Somebody called said. He's just good at memorizing stuff and instead it's impossible now. Wow that was done. Yeah yeah it was very cool. So that and the first half of the wendy williams movie are suggestions. I saw a lot of the wendy williams documentary. Because i decided i should know you know. I should see the documentary before the you know the reenactment version and But i've seen clips from the movie and it looks pretty amazing. Well if it was if it was half as good as the salt and pepper movie on lifetime because that was also very good. I'm sorry that's three recommendations. I can't stop. We'll have plenty of time on their hands and so they can watch all of this garbage Pity i. I'm definitely going to get into that too wendy williams movie sometime sometime soon. Wait so what's your official recommendation julia. Alright alright okay. Writing down it's fun they When you go see in and of itself in person the first thing you do is walk into a room where there's a bunch of little cards and say i am a different occupations. Some cases just as simple as you know sexual identity or even like a personality thing and so i picked a different one. Every time i win a one time. I did get my hand on They did have up there. I'm a comedian. So just like well you know might as well fix that one as pick the one. That's correct. i mean correct in the very literal sense. You know joy. Al yes sir. I'm gonna lately that you recommend without fear of repercussions no fear repercussions one night in miami. All it's so good. It's so good for those are the people that don't know it's a blackety black black black as hell movie directed by virginia king and we got malcolm x. We got muhammad ali. Sam cooke jim brown just had a night together in a hotel room in miami. After muhammad ali kick. Somebody's ass in a fight and it was just a really good a really good movie. I think it was regina's directorial debut. If i'm not mistaking and super proud of her. The acting was amazing. It was adapted from a play and it really just kind of goes through was happening at the time. Where malcolm x was Kind of you know. He was going to pass away. Sweet pass away we're gonna get killed sued assassinated and they just like his evolution at that point where his frustration with sam cooke especially with that sam was the one that white people like the most realize how much power you have so it was interesting to watch that dynamic and mohammed ali like a twenty two year old boy. So he's jumping on beds. Everybody wants that movie. It's great yeah leslie owed him. Junior is is amazing. He's very you know. He's a great actor very charismatic. But it's also it is interesting that that that the movie the character in the movie that everyone's kind of saying why people really love you. He's also now emerging as the one most likely to get an acting nominate. You know an oscar nomination for the movie. It's like even in even in nominating black people as they leave. Lean by by such all the actors in it or all four from are really terrific and like like with the guy who plays muhammad ali like you get over. It's a really good impression but you get over that really really quickly. It doesn't it doesn't sound like a caricature. Yeah and that's hard to do. It's hard to like you know people history especially people that are that huge and you really do get away from me. I was able to be in the story after awhile. Joy l. since it was based on a play. Does it all take place at one location for the most part. Yes i love movies like that. I love it. Yeah maybe they came up with some ways to open it up and give the movie a little. You know more. You know visuals take fixed like you see the play. You obviously don't also see like the the scene the fight that happens before essentially day action in the play gets gets going so the ramble open that up for the for the movie so it's not just but it was interesting like the timing that ma rainey's black bottom is also based on a play and also pretty much takes place in this same place all time. So yeah you can step on the loop hal. Yeah you could. You could play. This is a play but it also feels like the people making it were smart enough to go but if we do a bunch of things to try to open this up and make us seem less likely to play. Then we're just wasting people's time because there's so much good material right here in the in the words that you don't you know you don't necessarily need that and that's why those movies are getting so much a claim right now. 'cause they really they're really enjoyable. I log heavy. Yeah i mean that's the great thing about one nine miami to its four really good actress bouncing it around and And you do get some leslie. Odom junior singing in there which is also nice. It's very and any you know. Ten fifteen twenty years ago. Somebody makes that movie. All the characters would have You know maybe swore a little bit but like just watching those for historic figures who don't swear in public at all and how would talk amongst themselves. Bad also is really enjoyable. Aspect of of the movie fully agreed stream. It guys streaming. Yeah all right so those are great recommendations. I haven't seen palmer yet. But i'm gonna and right now we're gonna take a brief commercial break when we come back. Is everybody ready to play some games. Yes yes some games right after this. It takes thousands of hours to become an astronaut right. Nina i'm not an astronaut. I'm a design consultant at the container store. You explore space. I help you find space with our alpha closet systems. And you're an expert pretty good at it and you use satellites to communicate. I'm doing more virtual in-home closet designs. But i wouldn't say salute. You astronaut nina for helping us find space. You're welcome the elvis. Sales bonus is here. Earn up to five hundred dollars in credit no from february seven at the container store where space comes from. We're back and the first game we're gonna play. Today is a staple here douglas movies. It's called whos tag line. Is it anyway. And that of course is the game where i say a tag line from a movie. It's usually something from the poster the advertisements for the movie and dab. We'll start with joyal. Say the tagline. You tell me what do you think is if she misses. Clara gets shot if she misses and julia gets shot. They're not easy so don't be yourself up about it if you can't. I'm ready answer. What movie has the tagline. What makes you different makes you dangerous. Oh that sound like x. Men some men shit I'm just say x. Man shit you know you would only get the point if it was if it was x. Men then i would definitely give it to you but it was any other sequels. You'd have to come up with that whole thing. I know how you do. But you do that selectively. Doug know that yet said selective in the sense that i would let you add the word shit so then that is not the victim Out damn go here earlier. Do you think you know what it is clear. Well in the world of catnaps versus trysts. I'm a fan. So i love these books and i also love these movies. It's divergent all my goodness. Listen to this a synthetic clara go is it. it is right. That is correct. Wow cat miss. I thought she was at hunger games. Yeah but traces the one in divergent and so able lake are either team. Catnaps our team trust and i i really trust as soon as claris started rattling off characters from two different Series our dislike all is this woman knows what she's talking about almost hung up. I was like yeah. I would like leave like she got it. Know but really these books. I i like the movies too but the books of both these series are amazing. I recommend jealous of people who haven't read them because they can read them for the first time so even though the way i love them. Are you a publicist now. God damn it should be. I would have harry. I will do a movie. And i want to hire you. Just tell people to go see it. Because i'll be your publicist. I'll totally do it for you. Because you're so thank you hide me. Women hype woman. I love it. You no pun. Intended claire does does the movie series divergent. Does it diverge much from the source material as it goes later into the movies. Yes but it does. It also stays pretty true to the thing that happens with both these movies based on the books as you'll find anytime you adapt literature. Is there so much committed you know so you feel like you would. I'm watching these. I feel like. I have to explain to the person but you missed this whole part where you know such and such happened. This happened that It's just there's so much that has to be omitted because they can only take up ninety to one hundred twenty minutes on the screen center page says. Yeah and i feel like there's a lot of characters and they they do get stuff to do but none of them like in in divergent specifically. I just feel like it's more about trysts than than yes exactly exactly and even like the mom character I feel like she's way under developed on the in the movies. You know are ashley. Judd character clair's knowledge of these movies. Really paid off on that First tagline. let's see what happens on the next one. Starting we're starting with julia. And then going to joy hill and clearly gets a shot at julia. Joyo can't figure it out julia One choice can destroy you plow. I mean when i say i have no idea. I can't even emphasize that enough one show and destroy all this definitely isn't it but sliding doors okay. I know that i would be a hilarious tag. I know it's not it's not but let's just do i really should be. It should be like it would also be obviously like sophie's choice would be a good one. Also that's way too intense. But what do you think joyal. Do you have an idea what it might be. Here's what i think. I think i'm gonna say everyone dancing. And clay is going to have a whole dissertation on the answers. So i'm going to go with the matrix glare. it's the it's also in the divergent. Series insurgent those crew. Oh good the matrix was a very good joyal for now. I guess made a choice. That could have. Yeah which now. Oh yes these are calculated choices you know x. Men they was different. What if what if neo just grabbed both of them really thousand popped in bolton his down one new matrix movie. That's what the next one's gonna be. Because aren't they making another way. I i have heard. But i don't know if they really did move forward with it did did the aria all. I will Clair's around away with this but There's still a chance. To catch up. Julia. yeah fine it later. The baby so i mean players to to good. She's the statute julia a tagline. The world will be watching. Oh is it. Oh oh my god. Why can't i remember the name of jim carey. it's being truman. Show is it truman. Show incorrect albion. That's not the answer. If he said the yeah all right joyal it's going to be one of the divergent series because there's a theme here but i seem that an movies so i'm just say by urgent. I should make that. That'd be on these movies but is it something from that series. Well i can't say anything more other than that. You're gases incorrect coup. But claire. I already mentioned this series and lead character. Cattiness it an games hunger games own. They're already built. So much of this. Inner very first response way. So was that dog because the hunger games the whole the whole thing in those books and movies is they. The world watches these few. Read gas from the different districts. And it's like the battle to death and so the world will be watching that. I think that was even on the poster i think was. That's why we made. Its way into the tagline game haley. I feel like we got set up. I feel renowned comedy privately. We can about easy. I was so excited about you. Know the sudden switch from divergent games. I thought it would throw somebody off but It did not julia. yes new. Give you another chance here. What movie as a tagline her time is now wonder woman wonder woman from When was that first. One in the thirties no wonder woman or like a hunger games. Something whatever reference. I'm gonna say wonder woman nineteen eighty-four it's wrong. I know it's wrong for the next game is really the one that matters. Joyal hunger games. Three the rise of cattiness. And you know. I love good. Stab clare was the one hundred percent. Sure on this again were. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure on this one. But i think it is going to be with the same with trysts but the movie is called the fault in our stars which is about her dying and i think that that's the theme on that's a fun. Twist if i suddenly went to a shaleen woodley dying movie But no totally different nada. Totally different way. Another young female hero character a lead a battle angel which is an amazing movie. That's the name of the move. You alita illegal no more it out. For my daughter's birthday we went to a pop-up alita escape room type place and it was set up like the market in the movie and it was amazing. Mean you're so hardcore like that's ridiculous core even know that was a movie elite about. That's the name of the movie alita battle. Angel produced by james cameron and rosa salazar plays alita and it's a mix of a live action performance and a an animation. 'cause he has these really big like anna may is. You've probably seen imagery from it. It's it's an amazing movie and this pop up was laying. The escape room was so cool. And i got like super into it and my kids are like mom. Calm down i. Yeah i just clear just gonna have to say the same thing. Calm down won that game. But there's another game that has nothing to do with cadmus trysts or alita. And maybe julia joyal have a better shot at tons reading fit. Lifetime movies on qualifies for dot a. b. Personally the lifetime movies that will already movies. They plan to have lots of commercial breaks. And that's not the kind of movies. I'm into well. They will be on my podcast. Julia loves lifetime movie. That's a great podcast. There's a huge market for that. And i think you should start that up right away. Recap every lifetime movie. I bet you're such a thing already exists but your years of the funnier okay. We'll be right back after after this no flipping all right. We're back and claire. I don't know how you did it. You manage to win that game. A narrow margin narrow narrow she got one was just joining us. I thought i'd make it sound like it was tight competition But that only means clear that you get to go first and okay and that game is called. Oh yeah sunshine. Why is it called there. Well because we're gonna take turns guessing if a movie has the song olea by yellow. Or i'm walking on sunshine by katrina and the waves or both on the soundtrack to refresh your memory Goes oh yeah about do that song and you know. I don't have to sing walking on sunshine delay now everybody knows that one so these are eighties movies in which popular songs on soundtracks for motion pictures and television. Are you have to try to figure out which one of those are. Both is in any given motion picture. Ooh start with clare and just like hey. If she misses we've moved to julia and then to joy l. to possibly a pickup that gimme point two people miss on. This third person gets a gimmick. That's why i like this game. And mel just land in your lap. And that's that's what we're looking for claire. Okay oh yeah or walking on sunshine or both in a movie called talk home Okay i'm gonna i. I have seen this movie. It's been a while it doesn't seem like an. Oh yeah had a movie to me because it's about babies talking. If i remember correctly roseanne barr dan. Dan ackroyd maybe one of those talking movies last week. It was a golden retriever. Talking babies. I'm gonna sunshine bruce willis. That's your answer based on based on me talking it through anything. Those movie and i figure thinking. Danny devito roseanne barr was then at bars in john. Travolta who's talking now okay. Baby was bruce willett later. The first babies just bruce willis as mikey latch. I'm going to stick with my son. Just sunshine not also. I was trying to convince you to change your insurance as just explaining what what happens with the look. Look who's talking films and clerics are correct is walking on sunshine. Oh god god. You're so good when when you don't know you know the baby talk member was the airbud movies we talked about last week. I don't even know something about a golden retriever. Talking are julia. I on this next one. Which saw both is in the motion picture called longtime companion that movie Let's go to choices are walking on sunshine or both or both. It can't be not neither right. Neither is not an option. No it's either boomer in their a one young. I think it's oh. Yeah that is incorrect. Pat i have also never seen or heard of this movie so i'm just gonna say walking on sunshine. That is correct. Oh guess an ass bitch gets an ass bitch. Guessing ask bench has auclair. Has one and julia's just waiting. To get out of the starting gate companion was a One of the first aids dramas to come out on hollywood and i assume walking on sunshine occurs in happier Part of the aids. Yeah and dermot mulroney claire ago. I in this next one. Oh yeah walking on sunshine or both in american psycho Actually know the answer to this one. I do not remember. Oh yeah being in this movie. And i i do know that sunshine. None has not answer so sunshine. I'm gonna go sunshine. Was that you said you knew what it was. I think so wait. Did she get it wrong. While i'm asking you if you think she's right or wrong. I think she's wrong. See is i thought it was both. Oh yeah that would've been a good one for both. I mean oh yeah it would be pretty funny in american psych and yes but Somehow did not make the cut but walk. Walk on some kids he yeah with. Oh yeah didn't really match to me a way. Killing somebody while walking on sunshine was playing. Probably yeah will be has a lot of ironic music choices. I don't think oh yeah would have been that crazy. But it was also wasn't really thought like that wouldn't be in that guy's record class because i thought it was more of a soundtrack song than like a hit single. I did on the charts but like you know. Walking on sunshine was number one on the pop charts for like twelve weeks or something some crazy amount of time all right so claire has two points. Julia gets to go first on this next one or playing playing to three points. He had julia which one of the songs or both are in the film. The john cusack movie high fidelity no I think walking on sunshine is I'm gonna say oh. Gosh i'm gonna say just walking on sunshine as correct one zero points. It's funny to. They made that series with Zoe crab it's the high fidelity the tv show. I was so good but walking on sunshine was in the pilot. The first episode of that of the show and i i didn't realize it was a carry over from that. That song had been in the movie as well all right so julia is on the board. Joyal one point gets to go first on this next would joyal which one of those songs aren't both are in daddy daycare dannatt. I've never seen that. I feel like that songs. Definitely going to be digested adam. Sandler movie right think. So it's It's eddie murphy. Yes black okay okay okay. So i'm assume oh years in there i'm gonna just say oh year it's incorrect. All right good job. Joyo claire crushing player for the potential. Win i going to say sunshine is correct. You did it you saw. Was that the answer. All of that was all three that i got sunshine. It was answering all them. Do turn out to be the answer. Pretty much yeah. It was the answer. Every time was Was walking on. Sunshine is the game over. Doug the only movie i really remember. Oh yeah being. In arizona. Love ferris bueller yet add maybe yet another john hughes type eighties movie but i definitely know what was embarrassed. Dealer was like when when they use it very bueller. If it'd been used before just edmund used so memorably first time yeah. Crappy filmmakers who don't have any imagination stuck it in in like similar kinds of scenes like when somebody's sneaking around trying to do something very yeah and it was It was in the Michael j. fox movie the secret of my success Bag said also has. Is that the one where. He's on. Champagne waddell posters him in the champagne bottle year. Yes yes that. That checks out peak michael j. fox. Yeah but i'm saying that's the movie that has both of those songs in reminding sets. Congratulations to declare. And thank you to julia. And joy al for coming in and trying to to try and topple her from birch on trivia thrown at claire. Can you come back again. I sure candidate. What would you like to plug in the meantime. Well i'm gonna be joyous joyous publicist from now. So that's my new career and julia. I'm happy to do that for you as well it. Yeah that'd be bad ass and yeah. I'm launching by by next. Podcast is going to drop. Its first episode. Early april hub fanatics produced by ron breyer's helmet and david off is my co host. Who is also starring in the new dexter. So it's a very fun podcast where we talk about things that are. That people are fanatical about but not about their careers. So you may come on the show. And for example like greg grunberg haven and talk about his love of ford broncos and tiffany came out and talked about her love of cookbooks. So we like to talk about not people's careers but other things they're obsessed with so it's a really fun little. Show donald campbell. If you if you keep winning here on this show you have to come up with other. You have to give us other examples. Okay yeah i know. I will say plug every week. Exactly joy l. johnson. Yes i'd ask still implore you to play the final game that i love to play so you've got to bring that back 'cause that's a Last person standing all believe is the game that you enjoy and a few of the other guests like to do a special episode where we bring you together please to play that up. Please bring me and moshe together again. And i had a great time today and i also going to be starting some new cash. Julia rasi was actually just a guest on my podcast with my friend kenny forests called gangly face as save the world and we are going to be dropping that soon ish and we talked about therapy with julia and sister so look out for that folks are is really fun. That's cool a nice Nice crossover here with all everybody on everybody else's shows julia what else have you are calling on. I a podcast. The man my podcast just started last week. It's called shit. i get bangs. And it's people talking about breakdowns and breakthroughs and gavin at the end every episode. Either i give some tips on how to stay sane or i sometimes have a guest there who is my sister. Come on and give a professional mental health advice so it's mental health comedy. That could stuff so yeah thanks now available now it is available now yes excellent and then what's your stall your twitter handle so people can find that oh yeah it. It's not spelled. it's spelled. The italian way g. i. u. l. a. r. y. k. We'll have a clinton obviously is gonna come back again next week but everybody we'll be back very soon. He does anyone. Have i know what. I'm going to say at the end of the show every episode lately. I've been saying A line from a movie like the last line among the end. There's some real famous ones a final lines. And i'm finding that like most of the finals of movies tend to be very mundane and not not not very exciting at do any of you have any favorite last lines from a movie. I got one Tomorrow is another day is that that's gonna win. That's gone the way because people think frankly by diario give day of the last time that is not the last night that the weirdest ending. I'll give a damn bob. It cut like that is the end. Let's gender you know that's a classic one i had. I haven't done that one yet do you. Can you think of any julia now. I don't remember lines for movies. I probably shouldn't be on the show anymore. He's your retirement episode retirement income. Your first appearance you one. I don't know what happened first. Appearance i got real like cocky and confident. And i yeah i just. I don't know claire. And not being able to finish the wendy williams movie. It's just been like a week of not movie luck for me. I think you'll i think you'll come out of it up so i think so. I hope you come back sometimes. Yeah i know claire. Casino sees always sees always a a student who always has answers for everything i know. She's got a favorite last line from a movie. Well i can call back if we want to talk about noland again because you know. I love christopher nolan. And you know i love memento has the best last line. I think 'cause that whole movie you know is about him forgetting things so the last line is now. Where was i again that you could literally start the movie there. I think i've said that one. That's a good one. So yeah john like tenant. I loved it. I haven't seen it yet. did you like it. Joyal exhausting. I just thought it was absolutely exhausting. I was mad the entire time. But i did like memento but he was doing so much in tenant. You've got to watch it again. This is now. that's my problem. Is that he forces you watch his movies more than once. I want to choose to watch a movie. Fake make me watch a movie more than wants to get it it. I was find that that vice frustrating. When i stayed on like moving say you just need to watch it again like well but i didn't like about it was aboard. I was so why why we watching it again. More interested like now. I understand why. I was so bored. But yeah i just wanna see that one on the big screen when i do see it so i haven't i haven't seen it yet. Because that's i feel i feel like i would feel joy else frustration and wanna turn it off by just watching it on tv 'cause also one of the more interesting aspects of his movies and what. I from what. I hear this one as well. Is the the big screen photography but he is. The problem with the big screen is angle have no subtitles because our of pay found. Mix there or a sound editor. Something that you can't hear damn were coming at and nobody's man. You must've wall works. So great with bain every characters mumble man. I thought i was deaf him. Oh i also have one plug. I wanted to throw in here Be sure to follow at douglas movies. There's a new done buzzed. Movies dedicated account on twitter. That has all douglas movies related stuff. And i promise i don't i don't retreat a political musings on that account at all one more time. Thank you so much to clare. Kramer joyal johnson julia rasi. Who's maybe to retire as always. I just want to be there now. Watch other fates in there. There's no room for you.

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Storm Zeta Re-Strengthens to Hurricane as It Barrels Toward Louisiana

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Storm Zeta Re-Strengthens to Hurricane as It Barrels Toward Louisiana

"Presented by Raytheon Technologies our nearly two hundred thousand engineers, researchers, and people with purpose are building the future today we're pushing the limits of known science to go deeper into space advance aviation and build smarter defense systems that protect all of us here at home. That's the future of aerospace and defense learn more at RT x dot com. Zeta restrengthen to a hurricane as it barrels towards Louisiana. By Kevin McGill and Rebecca Santana. New Orleans. Zeta restrengthen hurricane early Wednesday as Louisiana braced for the twenty seventh named storm of a historically busy Atlantic hurricane season. Landfall is expected south of new, Orleans with life threatening storm surge, and strong winds expected along portions of the northern Gulf coast beginning around mid day. Zeta rake across the Yucatan Peninsula Tuesday striking as a hurricane before weakening to a tropical storm. Hurricane warnings stretched from Morgan City, Louisiana along the Mississippi Coast to the Alabama state line. The tropical storm warning along the coast of the Florida panhandle has been extended eastward to the Walton Bay County Line early Wednesday. The storm had sustained winds of eighty five miles per hour and was centered three, hundred, twenty miles or five hundred, fourteen kilometers south south west of the Mississippi River's mouth. The center of Zeta will the northern Gulf coast Wednesday and make landfall in southeastern Louisiana in the afternoon according to the National Hurricane Center. Zeta will move close to the Mississippi coast Wednesday evening and move across the southeastern and eastern. United States on Thursday. Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards asked President Donald Trump for a disaster declaration ahead of the storm, he and Alabama Governor Kay Ivey both declared emergencies. Did Mayor, Andrew Village in Biloxi Mississippi trump declared an emergency for Louisiana Tuesday evening. There's no doubt that we've seen a lot this year with covert and somebody threats from so many storms village Cetera, a news release. But this storm shows that we haven't seen it all yet. The storm approached as New Orleans officials announced that a turbine that generates power to the cities aging drainage pump system broke down. Sunday with no quick repair and site. There was enough power to keep the pumps operating if needed, but it left authorities with little excess power to tap. Should a breakdown of other turbines occur officials, senator news conference with Mayor Latoya Cantrell. Officials said they were running through contingencies to provide power and make repairs where needed should there be other equipment problems. Forecasts meanwhile called for anywhere from two to six inches of rain to fall in the New Orleans area. Officials noted that Zeta is expected to be a relatively fast moving storm possibly mitigating the flood threat. Zeta broke the record for the previous earliest twenty-seventh Atlantic named storm that formed November twenty, nine, th two, thousand, five. It's also the eleventh or game of the season an average. Sees six hurricanes and twelve named storms. The extraordinarily busy hurricane season has focused attention on the role of climate change which. Say is causing wetter stronger and more destructive storms. Louisiana has been hit by tropical storms and two hurricanes. Laura blamed for at least twenty seven Louisiana deaths after it struck in August and Delta, which exacerbated Laura's damage in the same area just two weeks later. New Orleans has been in the warning area for potential tropical cyclones seven times this year but as seen them veer to the east or west. I. Don't think we're going to be as lucky with this run. said he emergency director? Colin Arnold said. Another approaching storm piled on more worries for evacuees from previous hurricanes. The State is sheltering about thirty, six hundred evacuees from Laura and Delta most in new. Orleans area hotels. I'm physically and mentally tired distraught Yolanda lock it of Lake. Charles. said standing outside a new. Orleans hotel. Meanwhile many along the coast renewed unwanted ritual of preparation. On Dolphin. Island off the Alabama coast workers at Dolphin Island Marina prepared for Zeta although there was little left protect after Hurricane Sally had in September. We don't have any docks or fuel pumps at this point sally took it all out employees just duality said. In Louisiana's coastal Saint Bernard, parish east of New Orleans Robert Campeau readied his marina again for an approaching storm. We're down for four or five days that's four or five days. Nobody's fishing that's four or five days. Nobody is shrimping. That's four or five days no economic wheels are turning a said. I've never seen anything like it Thomas Heimdal an extension agent and Jenrette with the Louisiana State University Agricultural Center said of this year's series of storms and other troubles. He said the storms have meant more than a month of downtime for seafood harvesters many of whom are suffering drop in demand from restaurants due to the coronavirus pandemic.

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NPR News: 06-08-2020 8PM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 11 months ago

NPR News: 06-08-2020 8PM ET

"Live from NPR news. I'm Jack Speer. Even as some Democrats in Congress are proposing a far reaching overhaul of America's police procedures and policies, President Donald Trump wasted little time in seizing on the effort along with calls to fund urban police departments as a signing his words. The Democrats have quote gone crazy meeting with law enforcement officials at the White House today. The president said that's not going to happen. There will be funding. There won't be a dismantling of our police and. The not going to be any disbanding of our police police have been letting us. Live in peace, trump said ninety nine percent, perhaps ninety nine point, nine percent of police are quote great people. The president did say supports reforms that would eliminate what he calls. Bad Actors within police departments caused rain in Belize come in response to the death of George Floyd, who died while in police custody after an officer kneeled on his neck for more than eight minutes. The, World Health Organization is voicing its support for a wave of protests against police violence and racial injustice that originated in the US more from NPR's Ping Wong. Who director-general Tetris Adam Gabrielle, says people have good reason to protest who fully supports? And the Global Movement Against Racism would inject discrimination of all kinds. The protests started in the US after the world watched as George Floyd gasped, pleaded for his life, his neck under the knee of a Minneapolis police officer and similar protests are now happening in Europe, Africa and other regions. tetris recommends that protesters follow the guidance of local health officials and take precautions to protect themselves from Corona virus, wearing a mask, keeping a distance, and for some simply staying home, Ping Pong NPR news, global oil giant BP says it will cut its worldwide workforce by ten thousand jobs, the company, blaming the ongoing follow out from the coronavirus pandemic, which has led to a severe economic downturn and Reduced Energy, Consumption Company currently employs around seventy thousand people. Worldwide stocks were up sharply today with the Nasdaq. Hey, new all time high NPR's Scott hosts reports. The Dow also moved higher. A. Formal Declaration that the United States is in a recession did nothing to dampen investors confidence. They're betting. The downturn will be a short one. All the major stock indexes continued their upward March. The Dow rose one point seven percent, the S. and P., five hundred one point two percent. The tech heavy Nasdaq set a new record climbing one point one percent, and topping its former high set-back in February before the corona virus pushed the US into lockdown as businesses start to reopen the Federal Reserve is trying to prop up the economy. The Fed is widening eligibility for its emergency loan program for mid sized businesses. That program is not yet up and running Scott horsely NPR news Washington tell you look at some of the numbers. The Dow jump four, hundred sixty one points. The S&P five hundred was up thirty eight points. This is NPR. Michigan's Governor Gretchen Whitmer says she is requesting a federal disaster declaration for the Midland area while the failure of two dams as destroyed one hundred fifty homes. They're causing more than two hundred million dollars in damage under disaster declaration. Whitmer sank today. She hopes to gain Federal Emergency Management Agency assistance as soon as possible to dams gave way including nearly one hundred year old. That failed may nineteenth. The West Coast Guard is cleaning up after a soaking from tropical storm Cristobal which made landfall in Louisiana last evening. NPR's Debbie. Elliott reports the storm now at tropical depression still poses a flood risk as it moves north into the Mississippi River Valley Chris assessing damage in clearing down trees and power lines, even as the remnants of Cristobol continued, dumping heavy rain over the Gulf. South storm surge caused extensive coastal flooding along a wide area, including grand, Isle Louisiana the Mississippi Gulf Coast and Dolphin Island Alabama this morning. Emergency crews rescued people from flooded cabins at. At Louisiana State Park on Lake Pontchartrain as the tropical depression moves inland the national. Weather Service warns there is a flash flood risk stretching from coastal states into the Great Lakes region by Wednesday Debbie Elliott NPR News Orange Beach Alabama the National Transportation Safety Board says it's looking to close a loophole that has allowed some lithium ion batteries to still be transported by air point to a recent incident where a plane food binders from Florida to Toronto, a vehicle later erupted in flames, and when it was picking those batteries up. I'm Jack Speer NPR news.

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Hurricane Sally Threatens Gulf Coast With Rapidly Strengthening Winds and Severe Flooding

TIME's Top Stories

08:25 min | 7 months ago

Hurricane Sally Threatens Gulf Coast With Rapidly Strengthening Winds and Severe Flooding

"This podcast is brought to you by consumer reports standing for truth fairness and what's right for consumers consumer reports has been on your side. Since nineteen thirty, six with information you can trust own home, auto food, health, tech money, and more learn more at CR dot org slash consumer. Hurricane Sally Threatens Gulf coast with potentially historic flooding by Stacey pleasants and Janati. McConnell hey of the Associated Press Wavelength Mississippi. Hurricane Sally one of four storms churning simultaneously in the Atlantic closed in on the Gulf coast on Monday with rapidly strengthening winds of at least a hundred miles per hour one, hundred, sixty, one kilometers per hour and heavy rain as forecasters warned of potentially historic flooding and governors declared states of emergency. This low moving storm was forecast to brush the southeastern tip of Louisiana and then blow ashore late Tuesday or early Wednesday. Near the Mississippi Alabama State Line the National Hurricane Center said Hurricane Warnings stretched from Morgan. City Louisiana to Navarra Florida. President Donald Trump issued an emergency declaration for parts of Louisiana and Mississippi on Monday an action that authorizes veteran emergency officials to coordinate disaster relief efforts and provide emergency assistance to the affected areas. Alabama Governor K V asked the president to do the same for her state after the National Weather Service in mobile warned of the increasing likelihood of dangerous and potentially historic flooding. The Weather Service forecast that waters could rise as much as nine feet. Two point seven meters above ground in large parts of the mobile metro area with a population of four hundred, thousand people. It is the largest metro area along the Gulf coast between New Orleans and Tampa Florida. Some businesses and mobile placed sandbags at their. In preparation. Florida governor run Santa's declared a state of emergency in the panhandles westernmost counties Escambia and Santa Rosa as the hurricanes outer bands began to lash the area all along the storm weary Gulf coast residents rushed to buy bottled water and other supplies ahead of the hurricane which powered up to a category two in the afternoon forecasters said sustained winds could reach one hundred, ten miles per hour one, hundred, seventy, seven kilometers per hour just below category three strength by landfall. Seawater and sand swept onto roads on one end of Dauphin, island off the coast of Alabama washing away several cars, Dolphin, island mayor, Jeff. Collier said, he said about a dozen people had to be evacuated by Humvee in coastal Mississippi water spilled onto roads. And Ducks, well, before the storm's arrival, all twelve casinos were ordered to shut down Monday afternoon and Governor Tate. Reeves. Urge residents of low-lying areas to prepare to evacuate. This is the real deal and it deserves your attention reeves wrote on twitter be smart prepare for the worst pray for the best he said Reeves said Sally could dump up to twenty inches fifty. One. Centimeters of rain on the southern part of the state shelters opened but officials urged people who are evacuating to stay with friends or relatives or in hotels if possible because of the corona virus, the town of Kiln Mississippi with many homes sit high on stilts along the Jordan River and its tributaries was under a mandatory evacuation order and it appeared most residents obeyed. It would be dumb to stay here said Michael Mac McLaughlin seventy two a retiree who planned to ride out the storm in. New Orleans, with his girlfriend, he said his home was built in two thousand fourteen to withstand hurricanes. But I just don't WanNa be here when the waters that deep and be stranded that wouldn't be smart. Jeremy Burke lifted things off the floor in case of flooding in his bay books. Bookstore in the old town neighborhood of Bay Saint Louis a popular weekend getaway from new. Orleans about sixty miles. Five kilometers to the West it's into a ghost town he said. Sally has lots of company during what has become one of the busiest hurricane seasons in history. So busy that forecasters of almost run through the alphabet of names with two and a half months still to go for only the second time on record forecasters said, five tropical cyclones swirled simultaneously in the Atlantic Basin at one point on Monday. The last time that happened was in nineteen seventy-one. In addition to Sally were Hurricane Paulette, which passed over a well-fortified Bermuda on Monday and was expected to peel harmlessly out into the North Atlantic and tropical storms, Rene Teddy and Vicki, all of them out at sea and unlikely to threaten land this week if at all rene was downgraded to a trough of low pressure Monday evening. Sally was about one hundred, thirty, five miles two, hundred, seventeen kilometers south of below occc Mississippi on Monday night moving at six miles per hour nine kilometers per hour. The hurricanes luggage pace could give it more time to drench the Mississippi Delta with rain and storm surge storm surge warnings stretched from Port for John in Louisiana to the lines between Okaloosa and Walton counties in Florida also included lakes pontchartrain more PA and born in the New Orleans area and Mobile Bay in Alabama Sally was moving west northwest Monday night, but forecasters expected it to turn slightly east people in. New. Orleans. Worried that Sally would pose the latest test for pumps used in the low lying cities century old drainage system. In eastern New Orleans drainage canals were lowered in anticipation of torrential rains mayor La Toya Cantrell said, new. Orleans. Police went on twelve hour shifts and rescue boats, barricades, generators, and other equipment were readied police. Superintendent Sean. Ferguson said. On August Twenty Seventh Hurricane Laura blew ashore in southwestern Louisiana along the Texas line well west of New Orleans tearing off roofs and leaving large parts of the city of Lake Charles. Uninhabitable the storm was blamed for thirty two deaths in the two states, the vast majority of them in. Louisiana. More than two thousand evacuees from Hurricane Laura remained sheltered in. Louisiana. Most of them in New Orleans Area Hotels Governor John Bel Edwards said the extraordinarily busy hurricane season like the catastrophic wildfire season on the West, coast has focused attention on the role of climate change scientists say global warming is making the strongest of hurricanes those with wind speeds of one hundred, ten miles per hour or more even stronger. Also warmer air holds more moisture making storms. Rainier and rising seas from global warming makes storm surges. And more damaging. In addition scientists have been seeing tropical storms and hurricanes slow down once they hit the United States by about seventeen percent since nineteen hundred and that gives them the opportunity to unload more rain over one place as to seventeen hurricane harvey did in Houston.

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Full Episode: Tuesday, September 15, 2020

World News Tonight with David Muir

19:53 min | 7 months ago

Full Episode: Tuesday, September 15, 2020

"Tonight several stories breaking we come on the Air Hurricane Sally set to slam into the US the state of emergency tonight the hurricane already lashing the coast warnings up now from the wheezy Ns straight across to Florida this is a slow moving hurricane, which could be devastating third hurricane to hit the Gulf coast this season alone the tornado threat right now, the potential for life threatening storm surge up to thirty inches of rain is expected. Ginger Zee and Rob Marciano both in the storm zone with the latest timing attract tonight. Time to wildfires and the smoke traveling across the country tonight, the hazardous air quality choking major American cities, Portland Oregon, the worst air quality in the world what they're now handing out there and this dangerous air evidence of this all the way to the east coast. The search for the missing continues the death toll at least twenty seven tonight at this evening faces the names of some of those lost. Breaking developing today a settle balancing the Briana Taylor Case City of Louisville will pay twelve million dollars family six months after she was shot and killed by police serving a no knock warrant what now in the criminal case at this hour, the ABC News townhall President Trump at George Stephanopoulos the president taking questions directly from uncommitted voters amid pandemic the toll. Now nearing two, hundred, thousand American lives lost. History made it the White House today president trump hosting leaders from Israel. In Bahrain the landmark agreement to normalize relations and the competing images. Today the rockets fired from Gaza bought the rat standing by tonight. Haji after the top official at the Department of Health and Human Services went on an alarming rant making claims about CDC. Sintus telling trump supporters if you carry guns by munition tonight now his apology and what comes next. Demonstration tonight the key part of your mask. What might be most important what you need to know for the best protection from the virus. From ABC News World Headquarters in your. World News. With Didi. Good evening and it's great to have you with us here on a very busy Tuesday night, the hurricane, the wildfires ABC News townhall with President Trump amid this pandemic we will get to it all here and we begin with Hurricane Sally set to make landfall within hours state of emergency warnings up tonight from Louisiana clear across. Florida. This is a slow moving storm which could make matters worse expected to dump up to thirty inches of rain with a possible life threatening storm surge this hurricane with winds eighty. Miles per hour the outer bands already reaching the coast tonight wind and rain hitting Gulf shores Alabama the images coming in from Florida as well. Rough Surf along the shores and destined flora flooding already reported tonight a barge breaking loose becoming wedged under the Pensacola Bay Bridge and take a look at the view from space bursts of lightning there as the storm closes in on the Coast Hurricane Sally in the coming hours is set to become the third hurricane to make landfall along the Gulf coast this season. So it's get right to cheat urologist ginger zee with the new track timing just into night ginger what are you expecting? I am expecting Sally Bike, tomorrow morning making landfall but we have been killing impacts all day. I am at the head of the Dog River. This is the Mobile Bay, which is usually very serene. That is obviously not the case with those patents taking up here and David is sally has been trying to make its way through peanut butter air moving. So slow today, it's had a couple of locking systems explain it to you see it on satellite about sixty miles to myself and it should be planned full again tomorrow morning. So as it turns Florida's overnight the anticipate those really heavy. Rain Winds of seventy to eighty miles per hour early seemed gusts at Fort Morgan above seventy and timing there shows you along with cast. It will make its way then Wednesday afternoon into the Northwest Corner, Florida panhandle, and south of Montgomery, and eventually out South Carolina by the. Words that we've got to watch them Appalachicola Mexico Beach Panama City included all the way here to mobile. So Watch persons spins some of those outer bands also to know the timing of this is what's so critical. Tonight we feel that High Shield, the shield ahead of the actual isl watched that things during. Trap that Storm GonNa Three Mentor deal right as it makes landfall Bermuda Gulf shores orange as it moves to the north. I think we all really feel the impacts along the bank here, and then it should open and allow it to move east kicking it out with this trough number one it is all about the rain ten to thirty inches of rain right here through destined to the east of me and then also. The third with the water pushing up that combination could be life threatening with flash flooding David. We'll be watching straight through the overnight hours into the early morning ginger. Thanks to you again tonight and as you heard Ginger report, their authorities are warning of potentially deadly flooding storm crawling its way toward land and moving very slowly once it gets here, which of course is never good senior meteorologist Rob Marciano tonight from Pensacola Florida. Tonight families from the Florida panhandle, Louisiana bracing for life threatening flooding from Hurricane Sally. There's a category one hurricane just one hundred miles offshore and it's not really moving at all watches and warnings in effect for three, hundred, fifty miles of coastline. This. Is Pushing this. Those waves also slamming this barge right into Pensacola Bay Bridge, shutting it down in Mobile County Alabama to riverboat casinos and a canal breaking free crushing it doc. The storm surge began inundating Dolphin island during high tide on Monday several drivers who didn't get out in time found their cars buried in sand with the thirty inches of rain forecasts and spots. Alabama's governor urging families along the coast to get out if they still can't. Foul. Bamiyan Bama's. CAIN sally is. Not to be taken for granted. Storm now moving away from New Orleans but not the storm surge these waves raging on lake pontchartrain. So let's get right to rob. Marciano feeling the effects already tonight he's live from Pensacola and robbing the conditions really have been steadily getting worse as the afternoon his been wearing on with you. Absolutely matter of fact, David the last hour it's really going downhill it was manageable before. But now we're getting wind gusts that are approaching hurricane force look action off bay. Here we got ways five, six six feet, and this is low tide. What are still your number just for a wind gusts we've already seen are seen right now over fifty. Miles. Per Hour here in Pensacola over fifty miles per hour in Pensacola and mobile. Already a wind gusts measured over seventy miles per hour and the strongest core of those win and yet the come on shore that will be six, hundred, ten hours from now when water here will be at high ties don't you will be even more dangerous destructive at life-threatening. David and as we look at, you rob here, live tonight the eastern side of the storm the dirty side of the storm is they call you're already feeling the effects rob. We appreciate this stay safe with the crew there, and we'll continue to follow it into the night and meantime the other weather disaster unfolding tonight across several states in the West, and now evidence of that horrific smoke-filled air being seen all the way across the country right into the eastern fact tonight Portland Oregon now has the worst air quality in the. World in fact Oregon, authorities are now handing out and ninety five masks by the thousands first masks for the pandemic. Now, masks to protect families from the air people urged to stay indoors dozens of fires. Now, burning ten states time lapse video showing California's Bob cat fire closing in on the Mount Wilson, Observatory, a ranch owner documenting Kerr, escape from a blinding wind-fueled fire and Mansfield Washington and the smoke and haze from California Oregon and Washington visible in the sky over new. York City today ABC's Katie hard tongue from the fires tonight. Tonight a thick blanket of smoke suffocating the west coast putting millions in danger, and now moving across the country satellite images show the massive snow plows from the record-breaking wildfires spreading all the way to New York Portland Oregon is ground zero with the worst air quality of any major city in the world the state handing out twenty, five, hundred, thousand in ninety five masks telling people to stay indoors one out of every ten hospital visits due to the hazardous air quality. We're seeing a lot more people with productive cough dry cough shortness of breath. Symptom sounding like overland, with Covid, nineteen. It's difficult to tell at first who has cove nineteen and who has an irritant from the pollution we're leaving all. This danger the result of more than seventy fires raging in ten states. Destroying thousands of structures killing at least twenty seven people in the last week stories of tragedy emerging sixteen old Joe cya Williams Berry Creek California died as he attempted to flee a fire quickly engulfing his hometown brother. Tried to get back up in there to get him bad. Tried to get back up in their get him. It's not anybody's fault. Not His moms. It's not as dad it's not as brothers. These things happen and it's horrible. Horrible millicent Catamaran's died in the same fire, her family devastated and grappling with agonizing uncertainty, her sister Susan one of dozens still missing in the West the family waiting too long before trying to evacuate were they didn't know that there is a wall of flame moving them over a thousand yards and our they don't think the understood that. Katie heart tongue reporting tonight Kelly. Thank you and yet another major breaking story today this one in the deadly police shooting Brianna Taylor six months after she was shot and killed by police serving a no knock warrant Taylor's family has now reached a twelve million dollar wrongful death settlement with the city of Louisville. It also comes with a list of police reform and what's next now in the criminal case ABC's Alex Perez From Louisville tonight. Tonight one of the largest settlements involving police excessive force in US History Louisville. Agreeing agreeing to pay twelve million dollars in the wrongful death lawsuit brought by Brianna Taylor's family. I'm deeply deeply sorry for beyond steph todays. Announcement comes six months after plainclothes officers barged into the twenty six year old emt's apartment at night on a no knock search warrant her boyfriend Kenneth. Who told investigators? He never heard police announced themselves. S has he fired a warning shot with his legally owned gun police shooting back killing Taylor an officer was also struck. For months of protests across the country demanding justice for Briana today with the criminal case against the three officers is still pending. Brianna his mother saying the fight for justice is not over we need charges against these officers I'm still working. Forgetting Justice from her and? Is For me, it'll never be over. And David several police. Reform Accountability measures were also part of this settlement. A grand jury could hear evidence in the criminal case as early as this week David Orient Express reporting from Louisville Tonight Alex. thank you at this hour. The ABC. News. townhall underway president trump and George Stephanopoulos the president taking questions directly from uncommitted voters. No questions off limits and it comes amid pandemic as the US. Now, near two hundred, thousand American lives lost forty nine days until the election and our chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl from Philadelphia tonight. Tonight President Trump is taking questions from uncommitted and socially distant voters at our ABC News Town. Hall. Meeting in Philadelphia topic a the corona virus student a Johnny Powell asked him this question it. They will have it's the president's responsibility to protect. America, why would you downplay a pandemic? That is not disproportionately harm low income families minority communities. Well I didn't downplay it I actually in many ways I played in terms of action. My accent was very strong. Necklace what I did was a with China I put a ban on with Europe I, put a ban on and we would have lost thousands of more people had not put the ban on. So that was called action not with the mouth, but in actual fact. We did a very, very good job when we put that ban on whether you call the talent or luck, it was very important. So we saved a lot of lives when we did that there were holes in the ban in the European bandon come for another month while they were Americans the holes in where if you have somebody in China, that's an American citizen we had to let him in president is campaigning as if the pandemic is a thing of the past summoning large crowds of supporters packed shoulder to shoulder most not wearing masks in an interview in Nevada he said he wasn't personally worried about getting corona virus but didn't say anything about the threat to his supporters. Getting. Concerned. More, concerned about slow. I'm. Staged far away. Another Joe Biden is back on the campaign trail to very different way today holding a roundtable with veterans in high school. Gymnasium in Tampa Florida participants sitting at least six feet apart biden slammed the president for not being upfront with the American people about the virus false promises. Not, leveling without tough things are going to be. The American people never been able never failed to step up to what had to be done had to be done. But that's not happening. And Biden the president over the report in the Atlantic denied by the White House that he called war heroes, suckers, and losers nowhere ours false more glaring more offensive to me at least. When it comes to his Denigration of our service members, veterans wounded warriors falling. Florida may be the closest and most important battleground of all Michael Bloomberg is spending one hundred million dollars to help Joe Biden in Florida and Donald Trump knows this is a must win state. The trump campaign has spent more in Florida David than any other state. Alright Giancarl. Our thanks to you tonight and on the coronavirus tonight forty, eight hours after that alarming ran from top official at the Department of Health and Human Services and apology tonight the trump administration official making claims about CDC scientists telling trump supporters if you carry guns buy ammunition well tonight now. And here's even pilgrim. Just days after his public rant attacking the CDC a source tells ABC News Atop Communications official at health and Human Services. To staff and is now considering a medical leave in a deleted facebook video. Michael Caputo spouted unfounded claims accusing scientists, sedition warning of left-wing hit squads and violence after the election telling trump supporters if you carry guns buy ammunition. Later claiming he faced death threats something, he talked about in this March podcast I carry a pistol everywhere I. Go. I. Have a handgun in my in my holster as we speak, this is the normal for my family caputo blaming his behavior on his health and the toll of threats against his family. The trump loyalist with no background in public health was already accused of trying to change CDC report to put them more in line with the president's message on the virus earlier today Philanthropist Bill Gates telling Bloomberg he's worried political pressure has hurt the credibility of the FDA and CDC CDC's largely being. Written out of the picture because you have people at the White House who aren't epidemiologists. Saying what a great job they've done, and so it's it's no longer a. A set of experts. And this change in personnel at the top comes at a critical time for the president. As he's trying to convince voters, he has this pandemic under control David. Thank you, and of course, all of this playing out hours after history was made at the white. House today Israel the UAE in Bahrain together at a signing ceremony celebrating the Abraham accords the deal normalizing relations between the countries the Palestinians calling the deal, a betrayal rockets fired from Gaza and here's our global affairs correspondent. Martha. Raddatz tonight. On the White House South Lawn before a packed crowd many not wearing a mask history was indeed made today will sign a treaty of peace diplomatic relations and full. Israel's prime minister in the foreign ministers from Bahrain, the UAE joining President trump to officially normalize diplomatic relations with Israel, the first Arab countries to do. So in decades to all of Israel's friends in the Middle East I say Salaam Aleikum. B.'s onto. The agreements mean embassies will be opened in each other's countries. Commercial flights can operate between nations together, these agreements will serve as the foundation for a comprehensive peace across the entire region president trump proclaiming this apiece agreement but the countries were not at war and left out of the deal the Palestinians who call the agreement of betrayal at some point when they decide, they wanna live better lives I believe that they'll engage. No sign of that yet within minutes of the deal being signed rockets were launched into Israel from Gaza. There are strong indications that other Arab nations could enter into a deal with. President trump thing may be seven eight or nine more including David Saudi Arabia Alright Martha Raddatz. That would be key Martha. Thank you. Tonight the demonstration revealing key part on your mask in the fight against covid nineteen ABC news teaming up with engineers at Florida Atlantic University to show where particles can escape the demonstration showing that masks with that metal strip ceiling. The nose area released far fewer particles and ninety five masks offering the best protection half masking when the masks it's under your nose was, of course, least effective to the index in tonight the first image from Russian opposition leader Alexia volume since his suspected poisoning. Now, nearly a month ago the ball knee seen surrounded by his wife and children at a hospital bed in Berlin after falling critically ill aboard that plane Siberia volunteers. Now, breathing on his own intends to return to Russia. All right. Let's get right back to ginger. Tracking. Hurricane. Sally Forrest Ginger. David conditions deteriorating here we mentioned the life threatening flash flooding in the third book care that with waves, which we've seen almost thirty foot waves already, and we'll see that as a project, the Coast Tonight Landfall Tomorrow Morning David Tomorrow Morning Ginger and Robert. Thanks to you both the latest on Good Morning America and I'll see you right back here tomorrow night right now at this defining moment in America from ABC News turning point a groundbreaking month low nightline event. Late ABC.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

37:59 min | 1 year ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

"Would good good when your team wins. The good weekend got a good little Saturday night. You got a new hat. All geared up at the game. Yesterday was ought geared over where my my gray and black camouflage shorts have a ram socks. Aram t shirt and I walked in with L. AFC. Hat Okay because you know what's important in but then I decided to buy this one because I need to just take it to another level. We'll stay and then throwback which was terrible a gray hat with a blue patch yeah. La Rams Football 1937 bank it wasn't born then know what was born in draft seven fifty seven keys adopter sixty degrees right now in bell gardens. It's cloudy eighty-three going to cool down just a little bit today. Talk was hot all weekend the National Cinnamon Raisin Bread Day while loss you toasted peanut butter cheese. He's headline presented by I sprint. If I made French toast out of it you would be so here's thing. I don't like cinnamon what I don't. I got super so you're on story ten. 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Adam one twelve but my whole thing all this is why even bother people when they smoke in own room because if he's going into the other room it's not cool. I get it look. If if you WANNA do that most place in this country it's legal okay so you're infecting my if I'm next to wheezy next to wheezing in all of a sudden. I'm trying to go to bed or watch. TV and I got this cloud of smoke the need to do so so let me ask you this question. y'All professionals. y'All no no go on why do the smoke instead of like the yeah no stink candies and stuff listen and sometimes this is about a feeling by saying. I'm assuming no no 'cause we're adipose so I'm told that he could take one. You're not quite sure when it's going hit but more important you don't know when it's going to quit so so it could be in your system for two hours could be three could be four. He's just never know when to rise. Go in when you puffy Puffy puffy. You can control that a little bit more. You can be like all right. I got what I need. I'm good I'm GonNa Stop Smoking but once you ingest it. There's no stopping just got you for the ride dog so he might just be Chilin for the rest of the day at what I'm told his yes that is true you could be but as much as they much lots of musician smoke but as much as a musician seem like they smoke right inhaling they might as well just plus. You know you know what else it is to have some candy and keep it moving. It's also the the breathing that requires to do the same thing with cigarette. Smokers sometimes not just about the nicotine sometimes it's just the act certain issues started off slow explaining it and then all of a sudden forgiving. Steve Picking up steam right now so anyway we decided not to perform at the concert because allegedly he was removed from the hotel because of the sweet smoke so let me I grew quick before we finish if the cops hey you can't do that here. That's not being unreasonable right. No no no no no no. I just making sure her no not. If I was a smoker I wouldn't smoke in my hotel room anyway for somebody would call the cops especially in the state where it's not smoking. You know I was in Missouri is probably not coming so if anything can medical like Manda Saint Louis region yeah but I wouldn't quit my whole concert because of that either keys keys headlined the Morning Listen To K. SPN Los Angeles this Guy Twenty seven nine nine the rams beat the saints yesterday and let's start with this this just broken the last half hour so drew brees is going to miss six weeks he he injured his thumb yesterday his hand collided with Aaron Donald Hand and you you saw him. Try to go to silent and let's be strong. Well you could tell it was painful because he went over to try to pick up the ball any immediate lenient opinion. He tapped out and he's going to miss six weeks. Let's start here because the rams now have the tiebreaker over the saints which felt important at the time because last year you know the NFC championship goes through New Orleans in New Orleans and now it's not so much that you have the tiebreaker so maybe it's in the Coliseum night. You gotTA wonder key if New Orleans is in on a totally different track just to try to get in and save their season with Teddy Bridgewater with an expert on a totally different track still got a lot of pieces in play. When you go to backup quarterback who's had experience playing in this Lee now mind you. It was a couple years ago when he was a starter in Minnesota. He's has some experience of playing this league. He knows how how to play. He's got weapons around him now. All they have to do is Sean. Payton has to tailor the good things that that office can can do with Teddy Bridgewater and realize he does not have drew brees so the things that breeze did he can't try and get teddy to do you got to do the things teddy does with and I think that they will go back because when you say well you always prepared as the starter even though you're the backup. It's not true it's not it's not the same you don't get the reps people overstay saying that prepares as as if. I'm the starter in this situation in so no no no no. You're not getting the reps number one and you just throwing the ball around. That's pretty much all you're doing. You know you're getting you may get to of that. Particular play ripped in practice where drew brees is get like twenty of them. He's getting a repeats. He's getting all that you may only get to so you'll read my be here here. Today are opposed to everything because you've gotten so many reps at like drew brees could go for one to two to three to four get back to the fifth option where Teddy Bridgewater doesn't and get those those opportunities he will this week though so when you look at New York jets take on the Cleveland browns tonight and Simeon who has backup quarterback back to Sam darnold he he's getting all the reps this all the Repsol we glow so it will be tailored. The game plan would be tailored more towards him. They say I'm doing and and that's what New Orleans is going to have to do. Moving forward and the rams are not gonna WanNa see them in a playoff no because drew brees presumably at that time. What does it do for their odds Raj. WHOA WHOA Vegas is taking a look at this L Z and before the game that you attended the Rams and Saints Vegas had the saints at eight to one odds to win the super bowl now with this drew brees news. They've dropped two one five two so they vegas it. They're done pretty much home field. I can see that because he's a backup in they don't know what's going all they looking at it as a backup quarterback and we're vegas and we're going to get it right but he's a backup quarterback back but he's also a guy. That's been a million dollars is a backup quarterback so that tells you that. New Orleans feels a certain way about her to pay him that type of when he was a starter order in the league and the reason he's not a starter in the league because he got injured. It's not because he played and he didn't play as he didn't play his way out of being stored rams. I think made a great move and getting adding Blake. Bortles is their backup. Blake bortles played his way out of a starting role Teddy Bridgewater. Just got hurt it this way. I feel more comfortable with Teddy Bridgewater being backup in New Orleans then I do. Blake bortles being a full-time backup here in La.. I feel a whole lot I this scene bortles. What did he throw seventy five minutes. Is there's a lot there's a lot a lot but this is exactly the scenario that you have a capable backup right because you're not asking. Teddy Bridgewater to go and run you through the entire our season if drew brees tours. ACL Or something was done for the year then. You're probably cooked but if you're saying look I need you to get through a month. Maybe two we'll get drew back. If you you can get five hundred through a couple of months that's a win. That's why having Teddy Bridgewater or Blake Bortles of you said the rams have to play the next four games with Blake bortles. Okay I mean I'd rather have gone but that's fine. We can do that. It's when it's for the whole season that it's like I work. We cannot just be real honest for a second one one hundred stand while hunter. I understand that you know the saints are very good team and they've won a lot of games and we think we don't WanNa face them in the playoffs and Yada Yada Yada you go when you really look at the last three games. They've played the saints had one great half and has got us thinking that this rivalry is closer than what it is. That's when you peel back game by game by game ten points in the second half of the one game that they lost ten points in the second half of the game that they were on that had to call six points this game in the second half. Let it go Elsie v Rams have figured them out now. I know that you want to be like oh but of drew brees overhead the caller Blah Blah Blah ten points in the second half in the first game ten points. NFC Championship game now six points in the second half here. It's not just about drew brees. Our defense has figure some stuff out. We've limited their their their dough to playmakers and I don't mind facing them in the postseason because they showed a consistency to limit the damage that the star players can commit the hell with it rams winning a super long. I'm rams guy. Obviously I'm a jerk off fan. I'm a huge Sean mcvay Fan. I think that the rams right now probably the team to beat in the NFC but there are extenuating circumstances in the last two games that are not just I'll throw it away. It doesn't matter the call obviously being the most obvious one of them all but yesterday that play call that was ruled an incomplete. We passed that the game is very different if it's ten to three New Orleans at that point as opposed to three two three the rams ultimately go and kick that field goal ahead six to three after took the ball back ten to three going into the half. I don't know what it looks like. After there and I still think the rams win the game. I think the Rams Ari better team to your point elsie but there there are if I'm a New Orleans fans. I can look and say look if this thing ever gets officiated correctly. If we ever catch this much of a break we're it good older dash why because we always talk about the caw in the NFC championship game no one ever says the guy that just got one hundred twenty the yards and Cooper Cup wasn't available. No one ever says the guy that ran over heels secondary is seventy seven yard and todd Gurley wasn't healthy. No one ever proved that they always go. Oh it was the car to call. You know what we're just a better football team. Get over it so here's Jerry Jones talking about giving back his money and every week that goes has by if I'm Dak Prescott if I play like that I'm adding another number man you digit. We were one twelve. Were now at one thirteen. I had a chart goes for every interception. Option was taken away five million well for ten minutes every touch. I gave him ten million so right. Now I mean I I got about one hundred and forty million guaranteed. Well eat the pig to sixty nine and three. TD's one pick yeah pick that was kind of like I it could've gotten through but it didn't and it was picked and I'm not la- quarterbacks. They all throw picks. He's not he's not the first one that won't be the last one and so I think when you look at it the way that he played against Washington on a roll division opponent it somewhat of a little bit of a rivalry would Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones who bigger who's you know that all sorts of things when you start to break down really look at it having Zeki Oh Elliott in the lineup having Jason witten steel getting it done a touchdown another. Td For wit he'll be in a pro bowl Amari cooper even even Randall Cobb Gallup. I mean they're all fifteen caught a bomb. I never heard of him. Fifteen white thirteen who was whatever it macgyver owner all Devas Deva's myth devas myths chiefs set out he was a New York jets second round pick couple of years ago from Ohio State set out last football season football season have because it kept tearing his ACL SEO fast do four three four three guy goes into training camp with the cowboys makes the fifty three man but also is playing and getting playing time. I'll we'll do it. I'll say it the giants and the Redskins I know the numbers are are eye-popping. I know he's put up big numbers and not just numbers but he's looked really really solid in both of these games but the giants and the Redskins Mediocre. It's you can sign up for everybody right. Say what for everybody what you just said the giants and the risk is you say for everybody in the first two weeks of football that one games that are undefeated. Well guess what guess who's coming to town now. Travis the doll the big think about it who around play the first week the Carolina Panthers Fan right like you could do I mean I think they were generally but you could say that. What about anybody. Who did the New England Patriots play. That's different than I mean. Those they've played to dog sit in Pittsburgh was going to be a dog. You see what I'm saying so you. You can say that pretty much about any team. That's out there. That's plan. That's undefeated. I would agree with that. I think the only team who's to know with an impressive to anno- it's Green Bay packers because of who they face invasion invasion two very good teams one of which just wanted to visit last year in Chicago bears. I think there are no is impressive play they. They played they played Chicago. Bears team is that is okay on defense that has zero offense because of quarterbacks the other two point to any any team and go on there too and I don't know if the rams to ano is a it is against the panthers are not very hey good right now well. They've been very good one one of those early games in week one without any preseason. They've looked out now. Turn around the beat the beat the saints and no breeze goes out early but they I mean that's that's not a bad to know and Ki- not to keep bringing up the pigs but both times you picked against the rams. I'M GONNA pick used around the entire tire season. That's not a secret us how Carolina was going to do this and I'm going to be a good football team right. I mean I did you. You also look at Kansas City in the teams that they played against. They play the raiders yesterday in Jacksonville in Jacksonville so as Kansas City not a good football team because those those two dogs. I seen Patrick Mahomes to everybody. Mvp Arizona Cardinals certainly a good football team yeah. AP The Detroit tied him evens. The Ravens are more Jackson the more Jaksa exit does it to him again. NFL PRIME TIME is back. It was so beautiful love does great prime time is back. Tom Jackson my boomer every Sunday night post game aim on the APP on the APP because NBC owns the rights during that time slot so they can't actually go live on television. They have to stream it when when the playoffs come. NFL Primetime A. B. ON ESPN back you had a highlight he mentioned last night. He will sort of here. Let's go down twenty. Two fifteen go for two Murray keyshawn Johnson man my back King Way to go out music makes that to music is so good so the cowboys are to uh-huh and they've got the no they can't. They're going to be three now because I got the dolphins next but where they're going to be three now. We're talking about asking the question if the Patriots can be undefeated. Why are we asking the same thing about the cowboys the cobbler's when they got the eagles in the air and they've got the eagles. Here's what the here's The saints who doesn't have true breeze but it's on the road they got the jets got the bills they got the bears who according to key has no offense watched and again. I mean me pull up the assistant but those are the games that they should win but they're gonNA drop one or more. They've got the packers. They've got the eagles twice if they've got the vikings they've they've got the Patriots Fairs. They've got the rams say I have a season. They GONNA go undefeated posing the question because Patriots Rams people at Banks Western by reorder because people are asking the same thing about the Patriots can patriots go undefeated when the Patriots have the the cowboys on his schedule. Why aren't the cowboy seen as being considered threat against the Patriots but the pages can be considered a threat against Cavan never seen anybody say that the Patriots are going to beat the cowboys except for you right now. People are asking a question nonstop. Can they go undefeated also him to ask me that goes on television. I didn't see it. That's something that's being made up. Point spray at the cowboys against the dolphins has got to be like thirty well. It's funny so L Z. I asked you with the point spread. What was your answer thirteen and a half travis as you two points per. This is Miami traveling the cowboys fourteen and a half a key. What do you think two points Proto be. twenty-one keyshawn has hit pretty much on the hit. I've never seen a points brady. NFL At twenty nineteen point dogs the dolphins against the Patriots. They just raise it up twenty points against the cowboys. You could you not dolphins. Dolphins are like a junior college football team team in they just they don't I don't i. It's so funny you guys. Don't pay attention to things that I look for when I'm watching games. Just weird stuff the sidelines. The players are within an arm reach of everybody on the sideline. I could be able to touch the coach you look at the Dolphin. Island minimum is about five feet behind the coaches. They didn't want to be buying them. The whole the whole sideline in today did a shot and I'm looking and the coaches are all deer communicate with each other but not the players when they usually talking to the players. What's up they. We're nowhere near floor isn't him. I was like it just goes to show me. They don't like do at all so L Z. I want to go back to some. You're talking about being undefeated for the Patriots the difference right okay enough other people here here. Here's why Boston newspaper here but never mind where it is. We looked at the cowboys how long they've got the rams. They've got the saints they've got the Eagles twice. They've got the Patriots okay. There's five games to win. All five of those is big. Ask here's what the Patriots have uh-huh okay. Here's this real quickly. Jets bills redskins giants jets. That's their next thing. They're they're going to be heavy favorites in all of those then after that you've got the browns around the ravens the eagles now those three games in a row that maybe not heavy favorites but favorites in all of them then you've got the cowboys the Texans and the chiefs chiefs chiefs is going to be at home in Foxborough so there's an advantage there and then they finish Bengals bills-dolphins. There's like two games in there that you go a cow blame intiatives. That's why the sixteen and over them is real in Dallas cowboys. Give some set in a million years twenty two fifteen they go for two. Murray keyshawn Johnson man my back. The autumn wind wind is a raider is always great. Severe Eighties went from autumn to winter on Turkey auto first first quarter zero leave at Ben Winter then memorial. Oh colors in there. I thought say this. Raider fans are awesome because they are unflinchingly. Lynching Lee optimistic no matter how much information is telling them that their team is terrible and they are unbelievably loyal to their team. I will give them that on both counts because because look at ten to nothing after beating the Broncos a week ago at ten. Nothing gets the look good and you know what maybe one. That's why Texan ten. I'm like all right as might be sneaky. Good they might Bam lasted all of about one tweet sneath right out touchy touch text message message reminding after they gave up four touchdowns second quarter. They said no more locked it down but they they are still a. They're a more professional team. They're not good no no stretching. They're which is more professional. They approach is more professional than it was a year ago. You kind of see what the penalties aren't as heavy you know writer penalty football they have some good things terms execution having Antonio Brown did not you know would have helped him if they would've had him. Losing him doesn't help It's just you know the secondaries as you can see. Patrick Mahomes did to know for sure. Secondary is bad but getting torched by Patrick mahomes doesn't necessarily mean you're terrible team because he tortures everybody this this guy that seven touchdowns to and to their credit while the did give a five thousand dollars in the air the only gave up thirty ground so I mean why run and when you can fly I mean you can you can keep looking and find things that can get out of it as positive. I'm I'm reaching it no but hold on. I think there's something to that. I do think that there's something positive and it's not enough to make you go by super bowl tickets but at least is a step in the right direction that it's gone from just stick around. They'll be themselves. They'll do some stupid. They'll throw pick out. They'll give up a big play to you at least have to beat them now. You have to go out there and play better than them to win the game. which do you know again not a not exactly what you're hoping for when the seasons neck when you were terrible like that it changes the vikings at the Vikings this this is the type of team that really needs a victory? They've got to get a victory because they don't get a victory three as you can see race on which you're saying in terms of the front half of their schedule if they don't get a victory they might win four or five games this year man man. Let's gotTa get a victory at the one two coats now initiative dredge coming up. I don't see a comment at Vikings echoes versus bears here's at packers at Texans. They might be able to get the coats and they might be able to get the colts. The bears we know are liable to mess went up at any point. The Texans I think are pretty good team but the Texans are good for to what the hell was that airs are coming to Oakland Right. No they're coming all yet anything WE CHICAGO IN OAKLAND. No no no no yeah so bears. Get bears could slip on the Infield in lose a game on the dirt. I mean you know they can get the bears in in a coast they could. They could be interesting if they don't. If all of a sudden you get through those four or five games and losses and you're one in five you're one in six and then all of a sudden the whatever momentum you did have early from playing well against the Broncos from getting that win. That's ancient history at that point. There's nothing there's nothing you can look back awesome. Hey We help Patrick. mahomes scoreless in the second half doesn't matter you're just getting torched again. and that's why I say they got to get a victory on this stretch because you look up in like you. You say you wanted six diseases over now. You got dues packing in on you now. You're season might be a four and twelve well. I mean I mean listen. It's not as the Minnesota Vikings has necessarily her cousins can give you one one or two interception right. I mean he so he could good mental sauce. They usually don't lose too bad team and at home. They're tough to beat ear bad teams. They usually don't lose the bad teams kirk cousins. Don't sleep on his ability to do some stupid by you. He's he's one of those guys. You saw the interceptions he threw yesterday. They were moving moving again. They had a chance to get right back in that game and he threw a terrible pick by the way that bears game is a neutral site. That's at Tottenham Tottenham. AM in London so all right raiders don't play another home game in November pretty much. That's crazy. That's crazy. Oh so that game is not even Chicago and London Yeah Landon make. You you know what that means. It's time for the good the bad and the would hey. Hey Hey woody have is your good. I Have Cooper Cup as my good coming off an ACL surgery show greatness greatness here in the last two games. The big run for should've been whatever you WANNA call it touchdown. Sixty six was a sixty six yard. Stiffen goes stiff again. Ludi was like an obstacle course he was moving around didn't know he had that agility any and I'm sure they didn't know in Iran calling me stiff warming either strong strong he. He's not a small guy. He's a big strong receiver like it. When my good gentlemen is in the windy city hero scales down the ball down the hall right Hash Angle to left good place but by ETI Panero kick to the uprights tickets for the way narrow can't to send Denver down as time expires bear sixteen eighteen ten for fourteen they escape with a victory on the road rarely done here in Denver in the first two weeks of the season bears are one and one they do. I mean when you think about a squad. That's been snake bitten by bad kicking. Of course we remember the point blank drink going link. The postseason is good to see that they may actually have a guy now that they can depend on because you hate to see a game. Just decided by Misfield goes in an an extra points. I can't help but notice they didn't mention the roughing the passer that was the one of the worst calls for the weekend that set up that game winning kick right now my good a little bit under the radar because it was a football Sunday but my goodness good was Kenley Jansen last night in New York against the mets who was Kenley Jansen all over again. Ninety five miles an hour big time movement went right through the mets who are decent team not in probably a playoff team but a team that can do some damage and Kenley look like himself for the second time in a row. Dave Roberts said that they're trending in the right direction so Kenley Jansen fingers angers crossed is my good which brings us to the bad key Japan yeah the bad was not actually not actually on the the playing field but on the sidelines Air Rogers and his head coach Matt Leflore. You and Erin had kind of a spirited quick discussion there near the end of the first half what what was that yeah. It's just too competitive guys. and I'm sure it's not going to be the last one we have put you know just just competitors heat of the moment and you know it is what it is sometimes the defense is out there were during the TV timeouts. You know talking about what happened to produce possession. Are we like moving forward so yeah we got you know talked it out real quick and then move forward it. Actually he wasn't a big deal. He's just you know as in my were you know a little animated at times but I can't say it. was you know we're yellen the Ellen how much we love each other but we definitely weren't. MFN each other or anything it was talking about the the look there and you know get on Saint Bake. These is lying. Rogers and the head coach was cornered by the Pr Guy which PR guy should get a raise. They're going to ask you the questions about the blood on the silent. Here's what you need to tell them when you step up to the Mike now all of a sudden is big on brush. The Air Rogers matlock floor underneath if it was any other plan. NFL If it was a if it was me when I play if it was cam noon if it was any other player Tom Brady anybody anybody they it would be a screen and that's the problem getting ready to wait to happen but no the media go soften it up. Why cover for Aaron Rodgers is not that they cover for Eras Dick. The the moment that they say is not that big of a deal they just ignore it. Just say okay. It's not a big deal is there. If I were to say. It wasn't a big deal. They dissect it. They'd late-breaking all the winter. He lashed out at the head coach on the sideline. All of those sorts of things aired the lying through his teeth is started. I don't like the place that was called because he sit there and play against a defense that didn't work and the reason I had thought a damn ball away is because of him you know and it's not just so much that the arm gesture what they're saying it was the facial expression to which was because those are very difficult to fake you can get animated and yelling just the emotion of the moment but the I'm done with you. Face is really hard to fill in for him and he stopped. I can't wait to see him. Receiver keyshawn in Johnson lashed out at the head coach on national. We were communicating about the next play going in lashed out your bad elsie chargers losing losing to my lions now I'm from I'll be happy that my lions of one but damn chargers. How're you GONNA follow up last season's success with going back to what you were doing. Two seasons ago which is missing field goals now understand the Michael Bagley is hurt. He's Mrs Second Consecutive game with a groin injury but you can't keep having to punt a rollout and missing chip shots. You gotTA figure it out. You should be to actually you. Still you still Auckland because haven't been terry gave you. The first win. Gets hits. Your special teams to gather chargers. You're not so good that you can have bad special teams play and still go and when gain it what's so interesting about about that as coach Stuart who's the special teams. Coach has been around for a gazillion years at doing this. Oh special teams. I mean he's been in Atlanta. He's been George Stewart Atlanta Minnesota Atlanta again now. SAN DIEGO THE LA charges. He's a hell of a special teams coach so you would think he knows that I have to have a kicker somewhere. My back pocket kicking matters much more than it should. Every year comes down to my bad is a college football one and I'm talking about the UCLA bruins dropped. Oh three still having scored more a clap clap. Oh love that stadium. It was either empty seats or read. It was probably sixty or seventy percent Oklahoma fans. They still haven't scored more than fourteen points in a game and this is the part that's troubling is because chip. Kelly offensive genius wait till chip gets his guys wait until chip can do what he did it Oregon for UCLA. They've scored fourteen fourteen and fourteen their own three and the lost Oklahoma not the end of the world. It's the losses to Cincinnati in San Diego State that are unacceptable o n three three. UCLA chip Kelly is GonNa get clipped your would for the what is the other team across town wouldn't in Provo Utah in lay down Allah stinker. Here's the cougars of Byu game planning the play calling decisions to throw the ball on short yardage instead instead of running the ball with guys that you have in a backfield that came to USC because once upon a time it was tailback. You not forget about you. You and it's one of those situations where that seems like every week for too often the star players the five stars four stars go unused for their skill set. If you just turn around around and you had the ball to the dude he can get the first down instead. We're going to throw it. Guess what we're GONNA do. We're GONNA throw an interception and we're going to end the game and and we're GONNA have a loan flying home why Byu celebrates in tears down the goalposts and act like they won an astros mediocre sat but it's the fact that you beat the big bullies on the block. I mean you know like I said to you earlier travis. There's probably three guys when Byu's entire team that USC probably doubly was really interested in maybe three in the only reason why they didn't go to USC didn't go to Byu is because it falls within their religion that's the only reason your would put the rams defensive giving up three first-half points to the panthers. They gave three second half points to the saints their defense. It has been very good in Aaron. Donald has two total tackles are two total tackles so I don't. I don't know what to make of this. I don't know if there's a what what because our defense is so good and don't start up all the tackles. We're going to be more dominant or if the League has says. You know what we're going to quadruple team this dude and let somebody else do it. That's what's happening. They've got two and three guys on him. Every obviously he's over the guard. There got the guard on him. The Centers Chippenham the tackles chip in and they've got three guys hitting him on nearly every snap and he's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's wrecking havoc is if I told you that. Defense is still really damn. I'm good and Aaron donen ahead tackles and no sacks. You'd like Ukraine could believe that though and the reason I would believe that is because it allows everybody else to eat my what is the you what with the Miami Dolphins Brady takes the step and retreats. He looks left. He fires shorter touchdown Patriots inside near Left Pylon on what a fall by the quarterback to the back shoulder throw but hold on real quick there Scott Zolak back one hundred and two to ten that is the com- The combined score of the to Miami Dolphin Games this year a hundred and two to ten the other teams that have been undefeated were should say defeated winless had never had that sort of start to a bad season ended the what is I mean. We've seen bad teams. We've we've seen teams may be trying to position themselves for a draft pick before but this is the most aggressive egregious blatant tank job. I've seen it never mind the NFL NFL anywhere. Wait a minute. That's Zolak. That's him that's Zolak going Wazzan. We're going to have throw welcome to the team that Scott Zolak. Put a check mark on that. That is what quarterbacks. How did he die. I'm like yeah. He was with us with the jets. I remember having a conversation with Josh. Rosen got traded before the season and I say doc you straight. You'll even Miami for Miami Dog South Beach. You stray dog. Don't worry about it long yeah. That's why I'm not.

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Hour 2: 3/19/20

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 2: 3/19/20

"No one likes to feel stuck especially by your cloud but the IBM cloud is the most open and secure public cloud for business. It can manage all your apps and data anywhere smart. Loves problems. Ibm Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm Dot Com Slash Flexible Pride Passion Than Patrick. Three of college. Football leaves here. These Paul Finebaum. Show our to podcast. Come back glad you're here and looking forward to more Over these next couple of hours our next guest is pain. And he's a sports writer with Five thirty which is a fantastic site. Mostly people Look to five. Thirty eight for Political movements but they also do a lot in sports and and Like everyone Neil and his colleagues have been trying to make sense out of what we are currently going through new first of all. Thank you for being with us and I know I don't know if you're still in New York. I know New York has been a very tough place to be good afternoon. Yeah thank you for having me on. Yeah Big Big Fan of your show for a long time. So it's it's an honor to be here. I wish I was coming to you under better circumstances but yeah so You mentioned our site fivethirtyeight. We're based in New York and that's Kind of becoming the epicenter for this crisis Among the many places in the country that are kind of seeing a lot of cases come up and Neil Have checked in with friends of mine up there. Some some are having to get out Some are having to go to do their work. Elsewhere what That's not easy to do by the way when you listen place what are what are people doing that your you and your colleagues and friends well. We're very fortunate that we're able to kind of do our work from home. And since we're writers were reporters. We can kind of pick up a phone. It does limit the ability to kind of go and and interview people in person and I think also from from the sports writers perspective that sports journalists. You know it it. There are no games happening right now. I don't need to tell you that but it it's such a surreal feeling right now And I just hope that everyone is kind of thing safe and and You know kind of isolating themselves and practicing that social distance thing and and trying to Kinda ride out the situation as best we can and it's there are no games. This would have been a this is one of the The benchmark days of the year. And we have. I mean I I was I was earlier. They kind of slipping in and out of someplace quickly to get to get something to eat and the guy walked into man Sir Mr Games. I said you're right. I wouldn't be here. I'd probably be at a bar someplace but I am interested because with with all of the game shutdown One of the biggest stories of the year occurred two days ago with Tom. Brady leaving and I know it's important but for some reason it just didn't seem quite as important. Oh yeah I mean it really? Does you know it it's interesting that the NFL you know. They haven't really pushed back the draft. Obviously they're gonNA hold it without a crowd and they haven't really pushed back Any other part of their schedule at least right now and so. They're kind of going about business as usual and it feels so. Surreal to have that happen. at the same time that you know people are dying of this of this terrible virus so You know the Tom Brady News. It would have been. I think I wrote this in a calm That came out yesterday. Was this would have been the most surreal thing Of the year in sports to think about Tom Brady wearing a Tampa Bay buccaneers uniform And it might not even crack the top one hundred most surreal things. That have happened to us so far this month. I think yeah. I know it's hard to really get about the idea that Tom Brady is never going to. We're a patriots uniform again when when when you drive around town in every parking lot is is is empty. Jim is shutdown. Every restaurant is closed and the future of mankind not to be too dramatic but it's are somewhat hangs in the balance. Yeah it certainly is. You know sobering Especially a place like this in New York. You look out on on the street and there's nobody out on the sidewalk. Nobody is really driving. You know the people that are kind of I I live near a hospital And so you see people that are going there and they have face mask on and and you kind of just feel for them and pray for them. They're kind of making their way. Because you know that people are only really are going to be out about When they You know some serious reason that they have to be to be on the sidewalk. Neil in writing about this and what it means to sports I. It's it's almost cliche to to think about it but Other than the Games there are just untold gobs of money and you know billions That are literally being burned to a crisp. And I wonder I know I know. Fivethirtyeight is a lot of projections when it comes to certain things but is there any way to project when we get through it all hopefully sooner rather than later what the sports landscape is going to look like? Oh Man Well in terms of the losses of money you you hit the nail on the head in terms of billions multiple billions Just in the NBA alone. Canceling the rest of the regular Stephen And and to be clear they have not announced that they have cancelled the entirety of the regular season. Yet or the playoffs. But I think as we You know as the days go by and we see more about just the impact of the corona virus. It seems less and less likely that they're going to be able to come back in time to do the regular season maybe they can do some kind of adjusted Playoff format but that will also probably look very different than the types of things that we're used to seeing and so when you're talking about taking away regular season game Between the concessions and the ticket gate revenue All of the merchandising You're talking about a number of that. Will approach billion dollars just for the NBA alone and you can take that and apply it also two other sports major league. Baseball for instance makes more money as a percentage of their revenue and total revenue. Also Off Of Gate receipts then the NBA does so they're going to be you know in even more trouble As as they pushed back the start of the season more and more And so we're talking about numbers that are GonNa really escalating in terms of knowing when it will come back. I mean you know. At first the League's Edward GonNA press pause for thirty days. That is that looks incredibly naive. Now you know the way too optimistic projection Now they're thinking the disease will peak. Heard may I I it here in New York at least as the date that that it'll peak and then on the other side you know it'll kind of you'll you'll see what you're seeing in. China right now And maybe South Korea where the the number of new cases is being outpaced by the number of recovery's that would be an incredibly Kerr encouraging Timeline if I may I we start to kind of overcome this thing but as we're seeing you know the Chinese Basketball Association at shut down a little bit after new years in January. And it's only now kind of calling players back in and starting to prepare for the season to come back and I think they might start on April first or something like that. So we're talking about a three month Gap in terms of playing games. And that if you do all of the steps that China did and they took Very very aggressive steps to try to curtail things that that are probably only possible. Frankly In kind of a a government like they have a non democratic government so You Know I. I'm not sure what it's GonNa look like when the sports come back. I do know that the leagues have a very vested interest and certainly the television networks in partnership with them of at least getting the playoffs then crowning a champion and one of the big shame is that we will never have a champion for the men's and women's basketball tournaments this year. It will always be a what if there were so many great stories also. That could have kind of come out of it and so many teams. That were making breakthroughs that we hadn't seen you know a rise to the top in recent years and we're talking about You know from the NCWA to CBS. Viacom two Turner I mean. There is nothing not to be a hyperbolic here but there's nothing quite like two three weeks of the public basketball tournament. Yeah I mean it's one of the best spectacles in sports and the AA actually makes probably seventy five to eighty percent of its entire annual revenue from the men's tournament alone so I don't know what the consequences are going to be for the Non Revenue Sports. You know the all all the other student athletes that that kind of you know. Just do it for the love of the game And they're subsidized by these big ticket. Revenues Sports. I don't know what their budgets are going to look like going forward and the same is true for a lot of other sport. You know smaller sports you think about the WNBA. They are sort of dependent on having that gap in the schedule in the summer. Where Basketball You know the men's league is not being played now if you're talking about the NBA season. Maybe the playoffs starting in like you know July or June or something like that and then pushing deep into August and September. What does that do in terms of Domino effect. It has on other sports and will it but up against the NFL. Also you know the. Nfl is used to being the king of the coupe and there may be other sports. That are actually kind of trying to do their playoffs around the time that the NFL Starts up so it's going to be a huge mess in and it seems likely that we might see a bunch of sports trying to make up for lost time all at once in the in the fall or the late summer and before we talk about the Olympic Olympics are still kind of going going full steam ahead and that was that was literally my next question. Neil Neil we three weeks. A basketball is unbelievable but The Olympics is a once in every four years sport the dollar amounts that that NBC PA- Forget just NBC all the sponsorships to marketing ability. I mean it just seems like there's no way they're going to get that off They can say they are but you probably know better Just kinda set that for us. Yeah I mean you said it yourself with the amount of money coming in from the broadcast died and if you think about the athletes this is you know most Olympian participate in one. Maybe two Olympics if they're lucky so these people have been training their whole lives to get this one. M- window of glory this summer in Tokyo. And now I'm with you in the sense that you know. We hear the day were committed to the tournament and and You know we're committed to the event and we're going to proceed as planned but if you're looking at some of these numbers I just don't know if if right now You know this summer is the right moment to be planning a global event where you have people coming in from all nations gathering in crowds And and and potentially spreading the last thing that you would want is another outbreak. And they've warned us you know there are there are a lot of scientists and epidemiologists. They'd say that look. We can make it through this particular period that doesn't preclude us from having another outbreak in later in the summer and the fall And that's something that we have to be prepared for two so I think that it would have been to see the league's last week especially the NBA. They were the first one to kind of make that. Move to err on the side of caution you don't WanNa be responsible for people's lives by spreading this just the kind of stage a sporting event as much as these events mean to I and it would. It would be terrible if the Olympics. I think didn't take their cue from that. And and Err on the side of safety as well. Neil pain with us before you go and this is just an unbelievable Neil. You mentioned football. And we're all just guessing now but how late do you think that decision can go assuming that You're you're the Mai Mai Mai one peak doesn't quite come true There there there's the draft is in is in late April but there's so many other elements to The NFL season as well as college football. Yeah absolutely you're talking about many cancer talking about preseason You're talking about all the things that have to be done. To prepare for the season. And you know if if any of that gets pushed back. I think it would not be surprising at all to see if the NFL also pushes back their their schedule. And then that goes into you know. Does it start pushing the Super Bowl back? That's an event. That's been planned years in advance. So I mean this whole thing is an incredible mess. I will say from the perspective of football both college and especially the NFL. They are a little. They're they're in a position of luxury right now because they did not have their season interrupted in the middle of it like the NBA like the NHL. Like College basketball. Did so it does seem like they're taking a little bit of like a you know. Wait the attitude of well. We'll we'll see how this plays out before making decisions but like you say eventually the rubber will hit the road and they're gonNA have to make Hard decisions about you know whether certain things can happen by certain dates and maybe the you know the optimistic time line is how things play out But again the the NFL if it does work out for them and they don't have to lose any games they don't have to lose any money off of this. It'll just be sheer luck because of win. The outbreak happened on the sports calendar. And I don't need to tell you you work at five thirty eight. It's also a presidential election year. Oh yeah the the odds of I happen to live down the road from where one of the conventions is supposed to be the odds of those conventions being held in Milwaukee in Charlotte. I would think are pretty slim right now. And and the effect that all of this has on on on all that is is incalculable. But I'm sure yet people up and down your staff trying to figure all that out you gotta come back this. This was just an amazing interview. Neil thank you so very much. Well thank you very much for having me. I'd be glad to come back. And hopefully under better circumstances we look forward to be safe in New York. It's a very dinky toys. Thank you know pain from five. Thirty eight a lot of lots of chew on there and we will. I realize we have not had a lot of time for calls. But we'll make up for lost ground. Brent musburger a little later on stand tyner Pulitzer Prize winning newspaper editor. Who who's newspaper won a Pulitzer for covering One of the great tragedies in recent American history all of that coming up next. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show. Podcast we welcome you back and this disease The current viruses affecting Somebody different people. We have just learned that the New Orleans Saints Head Coach Sean. Payton tested positive for the disease This is just Coming out he's the first Person in the NFL world known to test positive for the disease Other Quite a few basketball players have we are going to get to your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five right now. So if you'd like to get in we would be more than happy to Entertain you call. A couple of lines are free. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five. The white shouldn't be too long. Glad to have you on Zach is up next. He's actually to call. Hey Paul how are you doing? We're doing well. Thank you for the call so I wanNA talk a little bit about what Jim said about what people have been saying. There's a doctor. Uab in Birmingham Doctor Stag who came up with some numbers about what's going on with corona virus and they're not like peer reviewed or anything like that but they're rough estimates from what we know from across the world and what we know is about fifty percent of the population will eventually get the virus and of those people about five. Percents will become seriously ill now. Five percent doesn't sound like a whole lot of people. But if you take fifty percent of the state of Alabama that two point five million people and five percent of that is one hundred. Twenty five thousand people So an Alabama only has seventeen hundred. Icu Bay talking about one. Hundred and twenty five thousand people for Seventeen hundred bits. And so. That's what's GonNa Happen. Most everybody's GonNa get some people are gonNA get seriously ill. The things that people are trying to do is to spread that out over a long period of time. And that's why people need to stay home and stay away from each other's to prevent the spread so that people don't go to the hospital that is overloaded and get turned away because they don't have been it's specifically to say people. Would I it to make sure that people can get treated and won't get turned away who who live otherwise so please. People stay home if you can. If you got a business and it's not essential shut it down. It's about people's lives. Have some change you you said interesting and and I we were getting at it earlier. A little bit with Ken Smith Meyer but a maybe I should just be being quiet but I I was concerned were Jim was going. And he's welcome to finish his thoughts but I was. I think the issue is. It is a public health issue as you as you. Eloquently pointed out and if it's not contained better than it currently seems to be on track to. That's where the your your little you know better than I do. But you're you're having doctors Make a make decisions who lives and who dies right. That's not really well. Thank you thank you. And that's such a tough call in any tree is situation or an incident. We see it in war. You rarely see that in peacetime but Anyway I'm I'm I'm I'm a political issue. I just WanNa know the The best possible information and yeah I I understand where people are coming from. I watch all the different news channels. I'm not an glued to one over the other I heard all this going on up until really a couple of days ago and There's we'll see I might a big fan of saying that but it is a reality So I'm not. I'm not keeping score. Who who's right or WHO's wrong but but I think there's Smith Myers said earlier. And think about think about this comment that he said here. The consequences of under reacting can be so profound in so dramatic that I don't think leaders have any choice but to overreact. Jim. I'm GonNa let you finish. I'm not gonNA talk this time. Go ahead look at it. I mean that's the way it Oughta be. Its way it used to be. Okay Paul this is me. This is my my loan statement. I think that's bull you know what what he just said that. Regard the fifty percent in Alabama and America will get that disease that fact Paul until it's back. I'm looking at the way. All of these climate change Moron Lunatics. That's all damn hypothetical speculative and not a fact I don't buy about don't say it's going to be fifty percent. How do you nobody knows that? Oh God in heaven knows at all. Oh he knows what's going on and I like it Kinda crap. That's what is wrong with this country predict and stuff like that you know for sure. There's no way to tell here. Well there is no way to tell it. You're one hundred percent correct about that. There's also no way to say that This is all a hoax either. I didn't say that I didn't I didn't I did Because I did. I didn't I'm just saying I don't always like that guy made about Zach. Well I think he. I regard to what he said and he. Maybe he doesn't know that no but I hope for your sake and don't don't react negatively. I'm just making a statement here. You're not one of those that need help in in a couple days at work. Same you same. I've been plenty of places where I could catch it I've been you say the same course the but I'm GonNa have to make that kind of a statement that it's like well. I'm just I'm just saying that only this game. I know what's going on. You talk like that. You put your plan. I'm making some crazy statement. You know around the block on my first Rodeo. I'm not implying that. But you're the one who is. He may disciple. I hope it's not you. Why do I want you to get you know what I know? Exactly what you're trying to say. You're trying to say that I shouldn't be saying what I'm saying. No I'm not trying to say I'm just trying to say you need to be aware that all you tell anybody when I'm out in the public eye away from Him Jim. Let me ask you a question. You've been to a into a grocery store I absolutely. Why is there something wrong with that? Did you go in one with with a bubble suit on because you can walk in there and you you you have no control over what's happening now. I didn't go. Whoa faith in God to take care of me that ends up right there. Okay that if I didn't I wouldn't go out if I did have an. She assures him I wouldn't go out and there's tons of people that don't have that kind of assured but that's why do that. That's why I can do it in peace. I by the way I'm not. I don't want to let you know you know me. I'm upset because you're trying to tell me and I'm just making. I'm making reasonable statements but I I just hate. It makes me angry. That scientific ZAC give it. That's fine. I always out 'cause they always get what God they're not accurate you that they're the ones that said. The world was flat. Paul come on I mean I really I. I'm always like that if I rejected rebelled against him when I was in first grade. Jimmy Aubrey up. Go ahead thank you Brent. Musburger will join us a little bit later on not about sides but the buck talk about sports gambling. This should be one of the biggest days a year in In in gambling. And it's obviously not going to be That plus your phone calls when we come back. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Welcome back Brent Musburger a little bit later on cannot wait to talk to Brentwood truly iconic broadcasters ever much like our next caller squirrel rinse one of my favorite too. I'm looking forward to that. But the reason I I I'm calling in I called half of gyms I call but then I called Zach's call and I feel such. I feel such pity for Zach. I mean you could hear his voice shaking And I got Jim. Second call and this may surprise you but I'm one hundred percent on Jim and I I agree with you. One hundred percent in regards to. There's a possible overreaction to this to what's going on right now and I'll tell you one reason why I don't overreact to this fall because and I don't I if I hang up is because I might be getting emotional and I will. I don't WanNa go there today but have you ever looked at your wife and told her if I don't make it out of this tell my children I love. Have you ever been in that situation? Yes Okay I've been in that situation too and when you're in that type of situation happened in two thousand five it wasn't Katrina. It was hurricane. Will I got my wife and I went to Cancun for one week vacation and are one week vacation turned into two week. Way -cation in the last eight days. We didn't have food water or electricity. We went Ford country and when that wall of Hurricane Wilma hit Cancun that night. The building shuddered and there was a time when we didn't think we would. We would see daylight and I'm not gonNA panic until there's a time to panic and I was a group of people that was forty people. One of those one of four. The group one was a insult. I'm not GonNa say what position he played but he was a member of the Chicago cubs. He was there on vacation in that group of us that we were stuck together for about eight days. File six or eight stood up and did what we had to do. And the other thirty people sheikh and that's Chicago cubs swim. The sheets Boll so right now is the time for people to stand up and just be a leader in this crisis and quit panicking. Get the quiver out of your boys I I know this is serious but but we can overcome it. We've overcome a lot more than this. How many people died on D Day? Paul do you know just roughly down these I can look it up pretty quickly but I mean it's got to be in the thousands. No you know what I'm saying. One day in this country looked with this guy and and we've become country of WIMPS and I. I'm just suggesting that everybody to suck it up. Do what you gotTa do quickness Damn Grocery Horn with this toilet paper who already and and listen to have some common sense about this but at some point in the next couple of weeks some officials need to step up and make some decisions government officials. Because you can't let this contry kill itself economically over this over this virus. I mean we've got people that are GONNA lose their livelihood over this and it just makes. It puzzles me that we didn't get this damn excited in in When the swine flu hit a previous administration When twenty thousand people in this country died. Thank you for taking my call. Aloha Dustin is up next in Panama City Hall. Dustin Mr Paul. Thanks for taking my call. How y'all doing today doing well? Well well I called a couple of days ago you took my call and we actually got out on the air about the beaches and how many people are on there. And you know you did your best to help me out and we got it out on the in the very next day channel three news went out and did an interview and documented everybody that was willing to take their picture and they put their name where they were from up on. That and I put posted that as much as I could on social media. And they're actually talking about closing the beaches down here and there but not quite all of them. Yeah I'm on I'm watching right now. I mean it's It looks like they're starting to shut. I wonder what I've seen. They're trying to milk every dollar out of the exactly. And that's my biggest one of my worries here is like say some of these Restaurants and I'll I'll be nice won't name any of them but say on Saint Patrick's Day when I drove down through destin virtually every large famous restaurant. All the big names Headlines around the building the parking lots were packed all the pizza. Joints fooled mini golf packed. All the amusement parks at Disneyland. Shut down. But destin's not Pensacola beach hasn't quite made it to Get that shove in there yet. The line for the beach there was all the way back all the way through Gulf breeze onto the bridge and again. But I'm just hoping somebody out there listening maybe some of these athletes and you know political figures anybody that has any kind of influence and get down there and push on these businesses and the beach to close down 'cause Tuscaloosa great great man. You know I like his opinions and everything like that and the last gentleman as well but at the same token I'm not saying panic is the way but being held for prepared for something and then not having happened as bad. I think as much better than being underprepared and I know a lot of people are talking about livelihoods and economy. What about Life Hood? What about people's actual lives here? And I think that's what's most important and I think we need to get this out there to these the spring breakers and everybody. That's still open because my Gosh Paul was was unbelievable. It actually made. It made me sick. I almost had to pull over. There were so many people and just hope that they they do something about it real soon. And I'm not saying they should panic but I do believe that we do really need to take this seriously because as far as I can see saying the worst of it is not even tell me so. I HOPE EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE. All appreciate let me talk and please people get off the beaches and businesses. Do the right thing tell you thank you? Dustin Jesse was in Panama City and local authorities are starting to do that But there in Florida. At least there has been no statewide mandate as we as we say that The governor of Alabama Kay Ivey has closed all the Alabama beaches down in Gulf Gulf shores orange beach and Dolphin island because of the public and private because of the virus. We'll take a break Brent Musburger will join us in about thirty minutes. We'll talk to him about sports and bedding and his life after listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast Musburger in the next hour to be one of the busiest days of the year for brand who Operates SPORTS GAMBLING RADIO NETWORK IN OTHER WORDS OTHER? Where other lodge he's coming on? Our show is up next New Orleans. Thanks Hey Paul I thought you were mad at me yesterday. I was talking to you and all of a sudden Dir I got hung up on. I thought wow brought up. The subject is not to get deep in the weeds here. I've got a new machine operating on and every time I move my hand it hits a button and you just you just got hit. I got palled well. I didn't feel so bad because the same thing happened to Kaley heart while you were talking to her so I thought okay. I'm into company. I felt worse for hers and she was In in isolation. And you're you're you're at a make believe bar exactly I'm in self imposed exile here but you know one of the things this virus is doing. It's teaching boomers like us. How to use technology right it is I'm they. They sent me some equipment today. I'm looking at like Are you out of your mind? Well in his also done some other crazy things it actually brought jeff and Jim together out. I mean you know. This is making some strange bedfellows. So you know. We're getting your in times when stuff like that happens. I think that's one of the seven signs right. That was like The south excuse me the North Korean premier and and trump getting together. That would that exactly. I was crazy but you know they were talking about your show and You really have an organic show changes with the times and it's not just football and it's not just necessarily things that impact all its. I mean you really have a national talk show. I don't know of another show out there where people from across the country. Just call in and talk other than I mean rush. Limbaugh doesn't take callers does he? occasionally But it's usually pretty quick. I'm hey this is You always hear people say this is a man what what what what happened to the show. This is the show that That was the show before television. Took over well again not having been around in your older days. I don't know so this is what it's like I mean it's open to anything but have you seen anything about this. Hbo Documentary Scheme. Has Seen it not seen it? But I've read I read. I read a column about it today. And apparently they have the first tape without the first. The tape of will wade. Yeah apparently ramblers got a story in the advocate. It seems like he actually got the screen the thing and his take on it is nothing new. It's just you actually hear will hurt. We'll wait uttering the words And not necessarily any new information But the question is do you think that actually hearing him say the words you can have any impact on his long term liability and baton rouge. No I don't i. It may not help a lot but but the fact that that those comments were not heard in court I think turned out to be. We'll wait salvation and you're closer to it than I am but I really don't hear too much conversation about will anymore. In fact I think the people and bad ruse and I'm one of them They start off with Tarquini and seeing all college. Basketball's corrupt wait. Wait is winning and winning cares. A lot of ill as just like solic- you know one good deed Excise two thousand crimes and in this case is one good deed is. He's winning and they were on a pretty good run this year I want. They weren't knocking people out. But Hey as if when Brett comes on has he been banned from TV. Or is he just choosing not to be on listen? He was the voice of College football on prime time they replaced him at. Espn is you know You know he came over not to make this sound like a step down. He came over to the SEC network and He he embraced it though he had fun. For a couple years and then He ended up leaving again under some circumstances and decide. You know what I'm going to have fought them and move to Vegas I think his nephew or son or somebody Started the sports gambling network. Which by the way looked like a great idea until recently well you can tell him always thought he was one of the. Great Voice of the College Football. But I still go back to Chris going but Wilkin all grew up with and they were to me college. Football I mean teach accent was okay but to me. Schinkel and Wilkinson. Because they're sounds of your youth right and an art fleming but he was a little before my town. I vaguely remember him. I I don't mean I don't WanNa come off mean but I think Keith Jackson certainly Held held court for a long time. Verne Lundquist got a lot of kudos. Because he did so many great games but I never thought vern Lindquist in college football compared to Jackson. Shaneco or Brent. And you know the same thing here. I honestly didn't care for a poor vern simply because he covered games that Lsu always lost whenever with Gary Danielson. I'm going I hope vern retire soon. Our local chain look what happens. You are one hundred what happened. Hey great thanks a lot pre show Augie. Thank you appreciate the words we will talk to Brent Coming up here in a few minutes now. They're a little bit later on. Stand tyner About some of the seriousness of all of these things were happening. We're having a better time today. I think all things considered. 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Peter Wohlleben on the Secrets of Trees, Animals and Humans

"It's it's it's like like a child which has watch and put out every wheel and sword in vox and say, okay, no, I know how a clockworks no, you have destroyed but you don't know how it works and perhaps those planations destroy our our view that animals are just wonderful. Hi I'm Mark Lena welcome to scanner a podcast but oceans equal ethics and the environment for fans effect based reality and reality based Bax. Was On tour a few years ago with my book, the killer whale who changed the world I was invited to the coury raiders. Festival Word Fest to Talk Wales and it was lucky enough to find myself on a panel of several then tastic writers including German forester and Eko philosopher Peter Bulletin. I was so excited about Peter's book about the amazing secret lives of trees. That is we sat backstage waiting for bent. I kept asking question after. About his experiences and his writing. At the time I was kind of obsessed with description of fungi. Mushrooms and how they are a plant that share some of the same characteristics as. So impede and I were both in Vancouver at the same time. I had to talk to him I can't. Thinks the magic of disappearing hard drugs. I. Feel like we've been promising to share this interview forever. The biggest thing I remember for a conversation was lovely. It was to talk with them. We met at his hotel in downtown Vancouver and Peter. Pretty much never stopped smiling also. He's really free consult. Peter Stories about trees and animals become global game changer we talked plants, fungi, animals, emotions, and so much more. As always scan is brought to you by our POD PATRIOTS DOT COM. So if you were up to an WanNa hear more about equal ethics environment and of course, orcas. If he likes jess future guests questions, we should be asking them. 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You can find out more by all of these books, e books, audio versions at orcas everywhere dot com or Scana dot org, and they are all available at your local bookstore and please please please support your local bookstores right now. During these crazy times a lot on her delivering and now. Peter Velvet. On plant rights. Fruit Fly Dreams. And scientists and denial. would. Really to see again. Less time we needed to you write us this. Yeah I remember you told me that your next book was going to be about the animals on your farm and I thought how are you going to turn the admirals on your farm into anywhere near as cool a book as you did with trees and you did it. Thank you. So I'm going to start by asking you questions that I've wondered about all summer where you follow in the story of Tala the whale was carrying her daughter for seventeen days. No. Sorry. Oh no no I know what you mean. Yes. Yes. Yes. A I read about that. Was Very, very sad story. What were your thoughts on people arguing less the whale grieving and I'm like, what else would she be doing? Yeah I think. I mean, you talk about. and. That that many animals are able to laugh you we we know actually by researching the hormones which drive our emotions. And one of the hormones oxytocin. Which drives laugh Mullah strongest love of all which you have an our wins also father laugh for sure. And you find that also in? Goats and horses even goldfish. And If you know that someone can laugh you should also grief because. That means that you can lose the the other the band that connects you because otherwise, for example, when you're a Our parents and the Wilderness. Let's say a deer and your cal stat that you wouldn't abandon it you you're one day you'll have to go. From this place, because otherwise you'll will be eaten by wolves. When you stay at your baby so if someone loves, the also has to have the ability to relief. Now you talked about the science of that and mirror neurons. Can you explain that the science behind the scientific aspects of love? Is the scientific aspect of the problem preps to? Avoid the answer to your question but I think. What we all also trying to find a mechanism behind it because we that's Way of thinking that is three hundred years old that we think we are working like machine today would say we're working like a computer, our brain. And it's like a program computer and the program are genes. That isn't the case the case our brain is not understood so far for example, new new. Compared. With the hardest drive, which many do say Brian is like heart destroy like a computer. Then, it should be the case that the more you learn of the fluid gets one day it's overload and then that's it. You can learn anymore or you have to forget something instead. The case? The more? You learn the begets the capacity of your brain. How that works no one knows now we could become too lounges even more complicated than learning something. You know that we have hormones which which drive enough we know what what's going on in the new runs. The English words for for this sin ethical back which it is. Yeah. When he goes from electricity to chemical the metro electricity, but that means. that that we would regard it as a machine and to understand that we don't even understand little terms. So and that's the smallest unit and we go deeper and deeper deeper in it, and we came to come to one point where we say we don't understand it. Why don't we stay outside and say we don't understand the whole complicity, but we know that it is their love this everywhere. Can you talk about why it is humans? WanNa shy away. From giving these attributes to other animals because fascinated by anthromorph isn't being treated as a sin and I love how you get into that can you talk about these that? Comes also from this. Look on by by scientists. which are educated in this sense, for example, to go more than three hundred, spank. Any most were brought to court and they were judged for having stolen grain. For example, that means that they were in this sense treated like humans and then three hundred years ago. And the age of enlightenment, more more scientists regarded nature as as a big machine. For example, they cups dogs living Doxa native on planes, cut them open and the docks began to scream and the the scientists for some of them whilst clot by now from friends. Is said. The see pain it's just like machine. Of Oil. Also screaming and. We have that too nowadays because otherwise you couldn't explain industrial enema keeping. Say? I. If you feed them and they have enough space to to lay down and it works like this and like that a of that thinking industrial keeping possible and scientists which which say. That as a something like. To into promote. It's like word. To pronounce it. It's it's not a nice word because it means that is something you shouldn't do it something. It's like something nerdy and. That, because it means that you explain things emotionally that's it's not to enter Promo face it. It's the problem. Are the emotions then have? Been People. Emotions for animals for plans for whatsoever. then. The erect in a different way and the scientists who criticize that. Most, many of them. Have Connections to industry. Let's that's the point. It just seems. So phenomenally dodgy to me, I read a story about. This is the grieving wail that said, the whale appeared to be grieving and I thought I have seen people at funerals who appeared to be grieving and we don't know what's in their hearts. I've seen people at funerals were very happy. The person in the box was dead, but they appeared to be grieving. I don't think talked about was faking her grief. So I think it's fascinating. We're prepared to say how another humans feeling, but we're not prepared to go there with an animal and what are we? We're supposed to make a new word to avoid. I don't know I think. Yeah I think I think again to. What try to figure out why people think that animals are In things like that. and. Say. It's it's comes from from our cultural heritage and science, which isn't good. Which means that we bring nature into a ranking. I are humans than we have the most higher animals lower than than we have plans and and this ranking has nothing to do with science. Because when you're by biologist, you can sort. Animals and plans categories. You can do that if it ever ever case makes sense of another question, but consorted but consort on the same level. But when you bring it into a ranking that that has nothing to do with nature because who wants to judge which. Any. More or less than other we we bring it into ranking. For example, you won't. You won't eat a Shin Pansy. Because it's ranks very high. With a pick okay. Most people would eat a pick but. Many people owned many comes down for example, fish many people eat fish no pick because fish slower. Look at how fish are captured the net nets they. What would you say if picks were captured the nets and? Drawn into. A. Lake. To the day they starve to the middle so that. I. If they don't get a breath. At suffocating. Face suffocating. Thank you. Yeah. We do that was fish. Bring them that's out of the water, and then they can breath anymore and afterwards we sell them when people say, oh, that's good. Stuff because they won't never do that with picks was with fishes they long law ranked lower and insects rang lower than fish plans ring lower than insects trees perhaps sling rank higher than sell it. And that's ranking. But a really really truth that's an. Ranking. Or ranking scientists say that that's science. Well part of where I ended up getting really lost but I was working on my book was I assume there was a scientific reason we were considered a higher being and I kept asking people and what I was told was well, it was brain size, and then it wasn't because we found out the ORCAS had bigger brains and then it was a stratification it was the complexity of the brain. Well, no ORCAS and dolphins have as beep for complex brains and every time you know it was tool use but no better tool used because crows can use tools. And at the goalposts cap moving. So what is the goal poster is through one? Of. The biggest problem is when any most come too close to Earth to. That that causes fear because then you have to think about what you're doing to nature. When when you keep them in distance and he can use them as raw material and when they when they come close to. Where we have Bravo sisters nature and for for many people, that's a problem because it disturbs business. Disturb, stay alive because you have to look what you have on your plate You have to look what what you buy and so on and so on and everyone knows now that's true but. If. Scientists would re the whole building. What's what's go down and? I think the the main problem is really to keep the whole animal and plant kingdom in distance, and that has nothing to do with. The best example is the neanderthal man. IT WAS CONSIDERED TO BE IN A. Different species. Now we know perhaps, isn't it an the NFL? Many Different species preps. It's Homo. SAPIENS. With with. Perhaps, a little different for example, What we know they know which scientists long denied that we mixed with 'em tom and perhaps it isn't even extinct. Because just mixed up in in in the modern. Homo sapiens in the NFL man is still there. For example when you have. White skin color blue is that's Nanto man. So which scientists. Lung. United denied that neanderthal man could speak good. At, a culture I think. Was five months months ago. They discovered wonderful cave paintings Spain. which were to consider to be from modern mankind. And they prove the H. of the pigments found ever run about sixty, six thousand years old and at that time there were just anatole man in this region and before that. Men were considered to make us Mexico as a sign so F okay. Nanto man homeless happens purpose. It's the same. We don't know but it's a good example to see. I. Don't know why. But perhaps it's a religious thing. To say homes options, it's the crawl of evolution and all other creatures are servants. Talked, about. Animals having criminal charges. I. Find It fascinating trying to figure out why we have rights and no animals do and I'm getting again I keep looking for. A legal explanation and all I'm really getting his it would be very inconvenient. Executive and look for example in the. Constitution the Swiss people are regarded to be very conservative and are not very flexible. Assorted for that's. One Country and they have in the constitution plant rights. Rights for plans in the Constitution. You never think that this regard plans. Birth dimension the Constitution so There are people are thinking about that but I think that's a process which is twenty years behind the discussion on animal rights and we don't have real animal rights so far you look at the Keeping when you look how clever Pixar for example, or or hence describe in the book that that's our rooster. Lies Not too often not as able to lie and he's able to think what what what she's doing. Just get sex what it's all about. Basic sample is the our. Emotion. Emotions are more important than our minds. For the Clinton, any ski I think that was clever too. But that's another another story to tell don't want to compare Clinton with a rooster but but. Having a risk very interesting. No but. That's what it's about. It's interesting to me that all of the fights person had for apes or or. All. Seem to focus on captivity I'm going why aren't we fighting for Rights on different levels? Why not? Yeah, right it's. What we discuss is in the moment is the conditions under we keep animals, but we don't talk about general rights. If we talk about writes on animals which animals orcas. Okay. We know thanks to you work that ORCAS are very close to us. They are different some times types of behavior better prep some some I I don't know. Beside that that doesn't mean that we don't have that we have to give up our rights. We have just have to respect otherwise that's that's that should be possible. But the question is when we have right for ORCAS and chimpanzees and perhaps peaks what about flies we know that for example, that fruit flies are able to dream to dream With two, hundred, thousand euros a we have I don't know ten billion whatsoever. Dream in this this very little brain. We don't know what's going on there. We we just see that they're moving their their legs but. What about the rights for fruitflies and when we re respect fruit flies what about Chinese because finally, our inbetween animals and plants closer to animals on their animals and we know that that they're the Frankly with A. Geographic mind they know with their funding which are able to to move slime molds, for example. What about them and when you have rights for them, what about trees and finally what about Senate and that's I? Think that's the fear behind when we give all those creatures rights. Than we have starved to death. Just can say, no, that's not what it is about. It's about to be more respectable. That's it's. It's funny that I think my favorite line in your first book or or sorry I know not your first book in your book about. His life of trees was fungi are amazing. And follow that story and I thought of my friends, the worms and their son carrot juice is murder I'm not sure. Maybe, it is necessary. Confusing. How do you decide what to eat? How do you juggle? That is the person who who's. Basically said, yet you know what carrots me have feelings. Fungi have feelings funding funky of intelligence. How do you decide what you're going to put on your plate? I decided more According to the way how the food is produced But? That is among hand environmentally friendly among the other hand if we need that and. I say, for example, I eat meat just just a little from organic animal keeping. But I don't think blast were on prep site to be completely very children vegetarian. But that doesn't release me in the sense because when we talk about planned feelings and there is planned feedings communication for example, when when you plan solid, there's communication between the senator when you to one, I don't know what the others are telling you eligible bed but I'm hungry I'm living being. I have also writes. What it is about I can also regard my rights I can enjoy life but. Every case where it is possible. I take care about other creatures. And what the Dolphin in Ireland. Yeah. Can you talk about that a little bit this? Dolphin Island Yeah it's a tourist attraction and It comes to tourist lonely Dolphin and. Perhaps, it just like to be amongst humans and. It's for decades. It's a very odd ocean on hope it's the Sephora thinks is I think so and? What Some scientists say. Because this is a really heartwarming story because this is really a very gentle dolphin and she likes it to be immense. The boats are spending people and so on. And without being being feed that that would be another story the no, he really loves. What scientists say, perhaps, this dolphin has gene defect. Set Okay laugh is a gene. Thank. That's a that's a strange explanation for that. That's all scientists. are talking about this case where say when when you look at nature just in this way, you don't discover anything. There's a a lovely term that Franz divall came up with and throw denial. And I'm quite fascinated by the the idea that scientists go out of their way to deny that animals have emotions, feelings intelligence, and try to reduce them to biological machines and I just don't get it. Yes. That's that's very good because. This is executive. What many not all they're very good scientists because otherwise we wouldn't all those wonderful things. You write about but. in most cases, scientists say we haven't discovered that we have improved that so it doesn't exist. That's that's. Being mad because things you don't see you can see doesn't exist. It's like a little child which puts hands over the eyes. And says, I can be seen because I don't see anything. I like the fact that you got into anecdotal evidence which scientists don't seem to be found out and I'm going. How many anecdotes adds up to fact, I mean, then almost every single person I've ever spoken to a but ORCAS has a story about something fictionally implausible that these orcas down with them. How many of those do you need to hear before you start going? Maybe there's pattern. This pattern means something like what you're talking about with Cros. The think you can see everything from two sides and are negative person. For example, if you're. Today at Pepsi can can compared with with the bubble Internet bubble. Facebook Bob. Whatsoever And when you're interested in negative seeing things to just hear negative things and. Think the world is negative and when you're a scientist, some you're thinking. Animals are working like a machine. Then you just see the machine you as a friendly Guy Orca friendly guy say noble just a moment and Look at this guy wearing long hair. I think. I. Don't know if you know how our things starts that. The other opinion are suppressed and started by start by how people are looking how the living. How they are researching and so on and when you're living your bubble to defend your beverly find one thousand reason why is true and the problem is that I would estimate that seventy percent of the science community is in this bubble. I don't understand why I. Coming at this not being a scientist I actually assumed scientists will be much more open minded about this. So that's been a really startling discoveries go no that's just an anecdote and that's just the other forty anecdotes you've got those don't add up to anything either. It's fascinating. Look at people. Like. For example, I think she had shed a hard life and. Also attacked by my scientists. So. I think the best scientists which we know nowadays from former times were lone wolves their time. Because they did discoveries which the science community wouldn't do this to be true. And but nowadays, you know our that are one for personal. For example, come on lawns. I don't know if you know you made experiments with goose and use emotions and. Our. He did really one for research or Gouda or. Ever and. It's a, it's a strong defending champion. Nowadays, we have another problem. For example, I have I'm tech from some scientists in Germany they are related to the forest industry. And the problem is a although they are Professors University of the. Business Germany is run by the state authorities. They are the biggest timber centers and there should be the control instance. So there's a connection between signs and timbers this, and then you can imagine why for example, why they say it's crazy when you when you talk about the trees Confu pain. Otherwise. Could fell the that's the promos. One thing that I find that we do to distance and I've gotten into this a fair bit lately. I'm finding myself pulling further and further away from using the numbers for whales using the names for Wales and look at the first thing. Jane Goodall did was she named David Greybeard. A or whatever. Can you talk about nine versus numbers and the way they're used in terms of distancing? Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what it is. and. That's exactly why why Lou follow your parents. Your change when you change numbers versus names, you change Change Yeah. What what, what I should say for for numbers. Change perhaps of them sheen to for emotions. And that's let's executive point I discussed also with David Sukey today but we should have to bring more emotions in the in the process in the discussions about in environmentally things in things of climate change because when we just discuss the the numbers or the process or whatsoever. So it's emotionally seen so far away doesn't touch your heart just your mind in the mind is not the most important thing. That's also the topic of the book. To have a happy life, you don't have to have a big brain. You don't have to be intelligent. Fulfilled life to be happy when you when you think about what was important in your life most important and just just a few words, even just one. Well. That's one thing left. You're going to end. You got into in your book, which was Love Altruism empathy. Says nothing to intelligence. Therefore for off, you don't need to have a big brain love if to even fish can feel. They don't have a big. Rain. But in our ranking, we're going down from the top brain size to lower brain size. Therefore, we have problems with ORCAS. Yeah and. That's an in the ranking because we think the bird is working on mind. No vote is murky laugh and that's the difference, and therefore, it doesn't matter even in human populations. It's a ranking it's the intelligence index, which is so important if not. More than one point three. Oh than your your. Guy. No. That's not important and that's for example why we have problems the nowadays with the disabled persons this with my mind because. Of the ranking but they can feel. Like you and that's important and. I think that's where if you can change this and I think perhaps I can give a little break to that you house you too can do to breaks will do wonderful audiobook and. Perhaps. The takes wow, twenty kids, and we have a new house of signs and. I think it's worth it can you say just a bit about animals as Oracle's because I love that chapter animal Oracle's when he oracles or does Orca or oh, this English translates and you're. Good in English. This is about animals known things that we don't the anticipating. Volcanoes image. ORCAS and dolphins constantly seem to know things that they shouldn't, and we don't understand how they know them. Animals are some animals because we also just one species and we can put all animals together in one pot because they they differ as much as we an orchestra example, but there are some animals which have different abilities. They have a sense for. Kind of outbreak or things are soon Nami. And Science is always trying to explain it by wave's Greg registered waves are. The vibrations that we can't feel they can few but there are more census. There are more census when you go down to. The atomic things quirks. And things and in in this level, we know that there are things happening which which we wouldn't have imagined. Imagine ten years ago would say that is Teri now we know that science and in this sense I think animals have possibilities that we don't have an which can't be explained in easy technical terms and they are one thing like like the goats which are able to predict Forecast. We're kind of outbreak and they leave Kano hours before it breaks out or the Salami thing I don't know what waves should go through the air in front of to Nami. I don't think there are some. It's a certain sense and we don't think we don't need to explain everything. It's it's like like a child which has a watch and put out every wheel and it in a box and say, okay, no I know how clockworks note you have destroyed it but you of our works and perhaps those explanations destroy our our view that animals are just wonderful. When you see it, it's a machine, for example, Orca near when you look at the brain and I K can sleep by by just one rain half and the other one is still awake or things like that, and you go deeper and deeper and say, oh, that's how it's years are working and the stole Megan what's ever many have a explained machine. Because you have cut it into. into little parts into the parts themselves, they are not wonderful. And that's I don't like explanation a nature explanation by done by this, it's like having a show which which which. Cuts a pick into parts and sell it in front of its and now. I know how pick worse? Have another big. And have you ever seen a whale. Yeah yesterday. Wow. Can you tell us about? 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Climate Change & The Cost Of Coastal Real Estate

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Climate Change & The Cost Of Coastal Real Estate

"Speed Internet most for the first time more at comcast corporation dot com slash Internet essentials from whyy in Philadelphia I'm Terry support for NPR and the following message come from comcast through Internet essentials comcast has connected more than eight million people from low income households too high he makes a fair amount of money he realizes one day that real estate is a game to be in one day in August of nineteen fresh air support for this podcast comes from the Neubauer family foundation supporting whyy's fresh air and its commitment to sharing ideas and encouraging meaningful conversation this is fresh air I'm terry gross our guest journalist Gilbert Gaul says Americans have chosen about regulatory problems with the nation's blood supply he spoke to fresh air's Dave Davies about his new book the geography of Risk Epoch storms much more vulnerable than ever to the tidal surges and heavy rains that come with modern storms Gilbert goal has reported for the New York Times and the Washington Post where we have all of this property at risk in an age where those risks are accelerating increasing that's not good that's coming up on Ak Shin homes by the thousands on these barrier islands is a relatively recent thing in American history you tell us about a guy in the early twentieth century In surprised winning journalist Gilbert gaul seventeen of the twenty most costly hurricanes have been since two thousand and it's likely that those later he starts the largest shoe store in Elizabeth New Jersey Selling Galoshes or boots to the port workers and Elizabeth for ninety nine cents to build three trillion dollars with property and some of the riskiest places on earth the barrier islands and Coastal Flood Plains of the Atlantic and Gulf coasts developers to keep rebuilding on the coast transferring much of the financial risk from private investors and homeowners tax payers. We've created this dynamic twenty-six he had purchased a new car a Willy's nights sedan he decides to take it out on Sunday morning and take for Dr he sees a sign for rising seas and the cost of America's coasts we'll Gobert goal welcome to fresh air you know I learned from your book that this practice of Building Jersey named Morris Schapiro would he do so Marsh Shapiro was one of the seminal builders of vacation homes beachhead and he's the winner of two Pulitzer Prizes one of the Pottsville Pennsylvania Republican for a series about the decline of a coal company and another at the Philadelphia Inquirer houses along the New Jersey coast and really along the national he arrives in the United States in eighteen ninety nine through in an era of rising seas increasingly destructive hurricanes go says an array of government subsidies encourage homeowners and developers to keep ending on vulnerable shorelines and when disaster strikes tax payers end up picking up much of the cost of rebuilding leaving over develop coastlines and wetlands Cold Long Beach Island drives over a rickety wooden bridge which is only about a foot or two above Barney get bay at that time Long Beach Island had maybe seven coarser galls new book the geography of risk is about who pays after storms come ashore and how federal subsidies encouraged talking Morris asks him if by any chance he knows of any property for sale just so happens the man says I have fifty nine hundred people he sees someone standing outside a clapboard shack and he gets out and meets the Sky Silence and then the family moves to Elizabeth in North Jersey along the port city there Morris's eighteen or nineteen years old at the time a few years later three acres from ocean today I'll sell them to you for a thousand dollars an acre he buys fifty three acres for fifty three thousand dollars I was curious in two thousand fifteen what that would cost today so I went into the property records in tax assessors office and began calling the information turns out it would cost him about four hundred million dollars to buy the property which is I think of five hundred thirty fold increase after you just for inflation so it's a signal for what what was the come at the coast and Morris really becomes one of the seminal builders river time right so he subdivided he comes to the idea you know there's a market for smaller cottages and he eventually develops this market I call them blue collar it takes some years does this and he subdivided the properties and I guess what's distinctive about this is that there were oceanside resorts for the wealthy right this was for working right the genius of more Shapiro was that instead of building large Victorian hotels are large Victorian houses he begins developing these cottages in the late nineteen thirties in nineteen forties the market for second homes adjust to them and that's exactly what he did so the initial cottages he built were you know maybe six hundred square feet at most versus today were at the coast really begins to develop after the war after World War Two when the economy's booming Americans have money they're looking for ways to indulge themselves you know the average size of a of a so-called cottage at the beach is more like three thousand square feet so it takes off Yes oh yes It it he really after years of sacrifice and the market does take off in Morris Schapiro ends up developing roughly two are cottages because he was focusing on people like teachers like Tristesse plumbers ordinary Americans and he wanted to develop a market and sell sp sell the smoke that define the mid Atlantic coast the other one being hurricane sandy or superstorm sandy as other people call it in two thousand twelve have three trillion dollars worth of property I estimate along what I call the near coast from the Atlantic coast to the Gulf coast other developers see this opportunity follow suit there is commercial development that comes with it as well as government investments in highways and other infrastructure and we got really and the sixty two storm was not only unusual in terms of the meteorology of the storm there were five high tides water just for cell and other cottage the damage was was so destructive in fact within two months there were back in business the business thousand cottages on the barrier island that I focus on in New Jersey Cold Long Beach Island which today is the largest richest barrier island in in the State Morissette died in its jury in her running the business the sons and they thought in fact her told me this several times they thought they would never you're towns now that are real kind of destinations that are people are really this thing this really booming now it it is today so we uh-huh what happens the Ash Wednesday storm of March one thousand nine hundred sixty two is one of two seminal events so this thing really gets moving there are a lot of a lot of people living at the shore and these houses were built and then in nineteen sixty two a nasty storm a nor'easter think about the coast and think about what we want the coast to look like given what we've just gone through and then he said that the kind of clearing mechanism at the coast a form of urban renewal at the beaches is the way I describe it in the book because they clear out older homes were began to boom afterward they had to record years in a row selling houses in and what that tells you is that storms are he proposed a hundred foot buffer from the sand dunes backward where there would be no building even the corps of Engineers thought that was a good idea at the time honorable homes and people come in with money speculators realtors and other folks and they buy up the property sometimes for cheap and then begin to build did so this sets up a phenomenon that we see in ensuing decades you now have mayors of coastal towns whose economies are built on the seaside fine and what happened was he sent out his Labor and Commerce Secretary Raymond Mail to give the message to the to the the development and again and again governors and environmental officials come down and say wait wait we need to be smarter we need to plan we need to restrict and the mayor say no way destroy anything that was there you might think if I build here that's quite a risk so what is in that deter people yeah yeah no I mean piled up and piled up over three days it wrecked the mid Atlantic coast just just blew it away this Shapiro's thought and by that time to slow development at the coast because it was basically unchecked and the other important factor is that the mayor newer and larger homes and that's how the coast developed right and I guess what's interesting about that is that one might think if you see a storm come and literally damage was so extraordinary that we need we need it to be a lot more cautious about we about the way we developed at the at the coast what are you want to be larger and so even though at the coast it's a lot riskier there are far more risks they want to build right organization to beat back attempts to limit development there was a meeting at Saint Francis Center on Long Beach Island where they packed fifteen other element is who pays rang there is a disaster and going back to the nineteen sixty two storm Yeah John F. Kennedy was in the West Alana it's occurred in South Carolina it's incurred in Florida it's incurred in Texas I focused on New Jersey because I knew this barrel and really well in the and had been going to it for fifty seven years and after after sixty two storm there were several other attempts at the state level nine hundred people into this place on a day when the temperature was over one hundred degrees no less and as you would expect they just attacked the ars e Richard J Hughes who was the governor at that time did something that was really interesting he said you know let's pause for six months and Gosh we need to control this but there are powerful economic interest you know represented by politicians who say nope nope there's money here there's property we have to build then hired burston-marsteller which at the time I think was the world's largest PR firm out there to help them organize what we would call today a grassroots somewhat not entirely by any stretch but somewhat and each time the mayor's for back at one point in nineteen eighty on Long Beach Island even on the state said well let's slow down a little bit they propose several different pieces of legislation that would have limited development everything so if you had a wildfire back then or you had an earthquake or whatever tornado but it evolves as the modern coast develops as down mayors and and the coastal legislators and they of course hated the idea because all their economic incentives are to build I mean if you if you're the mayor of a town you don't WanNa be small begins to happen afterward we continue to see more and more federal programs to come in after storms and we begin if you will and it really begins in nineteen fifty when legislators passed the first state officials over and over in a beat back the attempts to to limit development so we have this dynamic where there are you know regulators who think early modest disaster relief appropriation of about twenty five million dollars but it's just a signal to what another thing because there were really all the incentives were to in place where to build not to step back and pause after the sixty two storm in you've to rebuild it ends up lowering the risk of those of those property owners and that's that's what we see Kennedy was was under pressure after risk how do you how do you portion risk how much of it is going to be private how much is it going to be public so I went back and traced the history of risk at the coast. Yeah they they they fight it off and there's a long history in New Jersey in particular of this occurring but it's also incurred in and to see more and more federal programs before storms to build bridges to build utility systems grants for water systems grants build basically in harm's way so you have a circumstance where there's development on the shore there are politicians who represent astor relief act legislation and that creates a disaster relief fund and that covered not just coast federal funds that's Congress in that covered his and the council's of these towns control land-use they control what goes where not the state one hundred percent so for example after Hurricane Sandy any beach town in New Jersey that was already in the process hey it covers seventy percent on average of of the cost of recovery and in some cases it covers one people to build in these places they shouldn't be building coastal flood plains and then after the storms we then pay these towns to read in house people said we need help what happened they got help again another thing that I was interested in was this question a lot of it goes to taxpayers and now we have a changing climate how does that affect things right I should add that millions and millions at houses get built along the coast surprise what happens the expectations of the property owners change and they back after storms that the government will be there to help them that ends up doing a couple of things I it it ends up giving people incentives us of widening it speeches and that would be by the corps of Engineers and in largely federal government legislation those communities and want help the federal government has established that they will come in and rebuild which means that the risk of homing these of owning these beautiful places this puts us in perspective I think in in the nineteen fifties when the monarchos was was just being built the federal government it covered five percent of the cost of recovery after hurricanes and storms nor'easters and things like that today is for public buildings grand for fire engines everything you could possibly think of so it's it's happening both at the front end to incentivize one hundred percent of the cost of putting sand in front of multi-million dollar oceanfront mansions limitless the usual thing at least in my opinion that they do that they have gotten into business of widening widening beaches and what I mean by that is literally agnostic in any of this or an active player all this they spend a lot of time holding the hands of the beach town mayors where they work I've seen it in person sixty to to do something to help the the beach towns in in the property owners and in the past what was then a fair millions and millions or hundreds of millions of dollars to widen beaches and the largest benefit by far is goes to of engineers saying kind of you know rhetorically to coastal towns if you don't have a federal project we wanNA talk to you we are pulling out all the stuff the approved list for for each products the core comes in and with its contractors and it begins pumping sand onto those beaches beaches eroding and that's what barrier islands do they naturally road if it gets bad enough and if they can get a legislator to get them on the list rows of houses right behind it does almost nothing to the backsides a barrier islands in terms of benefit this was amazing to me when I read in your book APPs to get funding for you yeah they're developing work for their selves and that means getting federal money to move sand beaches yeah yeah the core is is by no means nationally somewhere in the magnitude of five billion dollars widening winding beaches up and down the coast in New Jersey really it's it's interesting we've started so many of these things at the core of engineers have at least with these kinds of projects become entrepreneurs of a short I mean you you quote one One of the guys the millions and millions of cubic yards of sand up and down the coast in New Jersey alone. I WANNA say it's it's one hundred million cubic yards of on and they spend a fair amount of time going down and trains to Washington to meet with coastal legislators who either WanNA project or have a project or more The people who are lucky enough to own these million dollar multimillion dollar houses parked right behind the dunes and then the next to Rome Kevin and barging it in and building beaches yes we the the core I mean this is not all that core does by any stretch but is that the sand remained in place that it essentially implying that it was affects but the reality is that it doesn't and you have winds in New Jersey out of the northeast the prevailing winds and big waves that they do exactly what you would think they would do they wash away the sand we're listening to the interview fresh air's Dave Davies recorded with Gilbert gaul author of the geography of risk after a break go will explain the origin the coast New Jersey is famous for really being the place that invented this this piece of business and in helping to get the core into the business of of of beach building for millionaires so so the core works with the local politicians they talk to their representatives in Congress they find the money and then private contractors who worked for the core all this work in the projects are in the tens of or hundreds of million dollars does it help does it does it does is it elastic magnet for violent storms also John Powers will review the new HBO series watchmen which is adapted from a Comic Book Series and Stars Regina King mant I mean that's that's enough to fill up football stadiums dozen times to put it in some sort of perspective it's Jarvis amount of sand we've spent in our align was was put into the legislation that is disaster recovery legislation calling for the for the corps of Engineers to pay for the time the engineers and I like these guys by the way I think they're great guys are just doing what they're doing but once upon a time they used to argue that rocket mortgage by quicken loans push-button get mortgage let's go back to the interview fresh air's Davies recorded with Pulitzer Prize winning journalist awesome this for a second we're talking about the Army Corps of Engineers into these symbols of your fish and infrastructure and they're dredging sand from from the the game visit rocket mortgage dot com slash fresh air equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states mls consumeraccess dot org number thirty thirty very gross with fresh air today epic storms rising seas and the cost of uncontrolled development on America's vulnerable coasts we hear from and I'm Terry Gross and this is fresh air support for fresh air and the following message come from rocket mortgage by quicken loans imagine how it feels to have an award winning team of mortgage experts make the home buying process smoother for you with a history of industry leading online lending technology rocket mortgage is changing enroll kinds of reasons to explain why why that but the reality is that they pump sand and then if you have a nor'easter thousand seventeen Florence in two thousand eighteen Imelda just this summer where they Roy Moore up to the code more money that's simply the works back in out Gosh on a no twenty years ago or so the core had this a light go on in the office one day where they decide with climate change with warmer oceans hurricanes are getting seemed to be getting bigger and more powerful and they're not just wind events there you call them rain bombs the federal flood insurance that has subsidized risky development and coastal areas and we'll talk about a resort island in the Gulf of Mexico that he says has been early just stalls out it's spinning around three miles an hour slowly migrating towards Houston the all to increasingly destructive hurricanes in an age of climate change gall says an array of federal subsidies have encouraged this development Tran that that alone is going to cause monumental damage but hurricanes Russell flood events and what we've seen in recent years bird gall his new book the geography of risk is about the sprawling development of education homes and rental properties in coastal areas that are vulnerable wind right because they can generate in the case of a hurricane like Michael and Florida and and last year hundred and fifty five mile per hour winds so improvement now to these communities no it's a band aid so so pumping sand on on the beach helps you in short term but the sand doesn't stay what's the science isn't fixed on this why it occurs but we've seen a number of very large hurricanes like Harvey in two thousand right at that it was the business in needed to act in a more businesslike fashion and that's learning the way this all works they have pumped during much of the financial risk of seaside living from private investors and homeowners to tax payers what are the things you know what in the book is that doc in in in some respects flooding is is a is a huge part of this it is it is we think of the word hurricane and we think of I install out harvey's a great example because Harvey was you know this big Blob of a storm it reaches the Gulf coast in it warmer ocean creates more fuel for that Hurricane Water Vapor that you know in simplest terms just get sucked up into the that fortex and then it ends up getting dumped on to Houston and it was biblical forty to sixty inches reflected the actual risk the government shouldn't offer subsidize flood insurance and it should be phased in twenty five thousand houses flooded in Harvey it's estimated that seventy five thousand of those houses were seriously down there was this tortured struggle for decades over should the federal government get involved in cell flood insurance Lyndon Johnson comes in and after wight who is one of the nation's most eminent jog refers geographers at the time is the head of the panel the emerged There were at ground level they needed to be elevated but the cost of elevating those houses would be my mass suggests at least fifteen this goes back I guess to the sixties really and when Lyndon Johnson was going to do this there was a commission that said we can do this you can provide federal became betsy in sixty five in calls for another study of can the government do this they come a guy named Gilbert Fowler it's a climate change another one of the ways that the federal government supports development at the shore is through flood insurance which is available to homeowners this and billion dollars and that's just one town this is happening everywhere these rain bombs are happening on the east coast they're happening all across the Gulf coast and this is one of the flood insurance but he oughta imposed some conditions right so The shirt history of flood insurance is that private church used to sell flood insurance backing the twenties and thirties but then after a series of rain events and flood events especially the nineteen twenty seven Mississippi flood they got out of the business yeah well what what happens is we of course include subsidies rather dramatic subsidies where people are paying you know as little the Texas having no real zoning laws developers built wherever they they want it and he was a growing place I mean it was big place you had big one does you know twenty thirty forty percent of the actual risk in their premiums the really was very little land use and that goes back to the fact that you've under a number of conditions that had to include limitations on a new building and flood plains the premiums had to be high enough again it's the beach towns that control a little restrictions on Land Yeah Yeah and in Development Jessica celebrates even with as a result of flood insurance actually in this study they produce a report and he concluded that yes the government could offer a foot insurance program but it would only work oil you you had lots of healthcare and it just sprawled all over the place but these places where they shouldn't have built flooded ethically over a hundred premiums are really low in then we rushed in instead of phasing in by doing maybe test case or to an estate it's without building in money for reserves and that's important because when you have a giant storm like Katrina be allowed to operate this way but the government does because it uses the US Treasury federal tax payers if you will thinks that ordinarily they wouldn't do they had to pay for it no fun rational ideas and wise warnings what happens when the congressman which is what Fowler suggested we introduced it nationally right away and the other critical point was we we brought in flood insurance and over time and you don't want to subsidize it because you don't WanNa distort the market you distort the market when you have a subsidy in it yeah it it it leads people to do that money to pay the claims with little or no expectation that will ever be paid back so you end up with forty billion dollars in debt in were you have billions and billions of a flood claims there's no money there to cover it because you have no reserves no private Scher would still properties that flood over and over and over again and are still paying fairly low premiums Azziz financial backstop so in a case like Katrina they congress just says okay we'll raise the bar and allow the Flood Insurance Program to borrow didn't Flood Insurance Program it's a program that was broken from day one in a still broken right and there have been efforts to reform it two thousand twelve there was a serious attempt to to reform the program that would have introduced higher premiums and shifted the risk wins the mayor's all began to object that these rates were going to drive people away from the coast so then the Komo has anything chain not not really not in a major sense they're they're still subsidies there's the politicians in Washington including the backers of the original legislation withdraw and and we end up coastline has this leftist well as I said earlier we have three trillion dollars worth of property built on assing new legislation that slowdown rate increases and even reverse some of the rate increases and that's where we stand today so what kind of Atlantic and Gulf coast much of it is located on barrier islands which by definition or eroding and have little or any elevation onto property owners in a more rational way and it it would the legislation passed by large large numbers in both the House and Senate them with housing as well so we've created this dynamic where we have all this property at risk in it was adopted in as soon as it came into play people began to see what it would do and all of a sudden all hell broke loose the property owners the politician ways to upcycle orchard co-products halls and shells may create stronger recycled plastics fuel and more more at almondsustainability dot org station in just a moment this is fresh air support for NPR and the following message come from Almond Board of California did you know the almond community is working on he's many of which are prone to flooding increasingly would sea level rise and we saw that in Hurricane Sandy Two thousand twelve in New Jersey we have filled age where those risks are accelerating increasing that's not good Gilbert goals book is the geography of risk will continue our and are the most vulnerable to hurricanes into sea level rise we have built in addition along back bays or sounds and our estuary NPR this is fresh air and we're speaking with Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Gilbert Gaul his new book is about government policies that promote sprawling development on our coasts. Let's it'll be fun you'll learn some stuff in yeah it's GonNa get a little weird science listening subscribe now to short wave and the cost of America's coasts millions of people today live on our barrier islands and coastal waterways in Bays but one of the things that I found and write about is this phenomenon where much of the coast is becoming an investment property Well I tried to I tried to figure that out in the context of the Flood Insurance Program and I did the math and I came up Madison fire here host of shortwave a new daily science podcast from NPR listen for new discoveries everyday mysteries in science behind the headlines All in about ten and waterways and how taxpayers assumed much of the cost of rebuilding when disasters occur her his new book is the geography of risk epic storms rising seas hey as one of every three properties that are insured by the Federal Government there are certainly millions of people living along the coast but with a figure just for flood insurance the federal government is is ensuring one point three million beach houses second homes it could be higher could be as high storms you've there's the prospect of these big expensive places being ripped apart and rebuilt is there a place that you studied that's an example of this Nyland which is off the coast of Alabama in mobile it's a fourteen point five mile long barrier islands shaped like drums end of Dauphin Island nineteen feet swept away those houses off the stilts I think four hundred of the four rolls along we all know it's a big massive violent storm it pushed nineteen feet of storm surge over the Western up on these stilts and were safe they were safe until they weren't so what happened was in two thousand and five Hurricane Katrina Properties are having on the culture and economics at the coast you know as as develops coastal communities face rising seas and bigger it's beach houses and second homes but unlike in the past were people would go and actually live there during the summer months stalker a bond in that in my mind certa changes the way I think about those houses but the impacts that that those investment shows you that allegation only gets you so far and they rebuilt again of course yes I spoke for this book I spoke with the Raiders or small category two hurricane that wiped out thirty or so of the older houses literally pitched them across the narrow a lot of the property that that that taxpayers assume the risk for our second homes and vacation we have any idea how much a dozen hurricanes in the last few decades including several major hurricanes after I went there initially in one thousand nine hundred eighty Gulf of Mexico has no elevation and yet that's where all the big houses are on their oil second homes they're all beachhead Sorry we don't have enough money you guys don't qualify well if these homes don't qualify in a place like Dolphin island which has been smashed over and over and over off they raise the white flag and they asked to be bought out Dauphin island the town filed an application and the barrier island like bowling balls into the houses along the Mississippi sound the owners then elevated their houses fifteen feet in the air they built new houses asking to be bored out to pay for these fifteen fifteen houses two years went by they finally got a letter back from Fema and the letter said again. You know what's going to happen right we don't have we don't we simply don't have enough money to buy out all these mistakes we've made at the coast stick the eastern end of it is a fairly lush maritime forest and reasonably wide and then the western end of it facing the Mississippi sound the owners may be there for two weeks and then the rest of the time the place is empty they don't even rent it out they're not even trying to run it as a business it's just an investment property just like us and when visited it again and spoke with the mayor again and yes it's all rebuilt and now the construction line for the original coastline look like what can we do so there's two questions there are more rational coastline wouldn't look -struction line for the houses is one hundred yards offshore underwater in Mexico the houses are just sitting there at the edge there's no elevation no sand dunes tax revenues for the for the local government I will tell you though that after Katrina fifteen of the homeowners there had the good sense to say we've had aren't fifty homes there were wrecked I managed to get on the island a few days after the hurricane I was staggered by what I saw all and nothing they're just sitting there at the edge of the water and in some cases in war so up on stilts up on stilts but again twenty you see or these empty stilts bent in the sand were the houses used to be sitting up in up in the air like bird houses just industry you know you can keep widening beaches you can elevate houses you can elevate roads Assist I asked the mayor will why did they built their you know that's the riskiest possible place and he said well they like the view the place has been hit by over I'd say you can't rebuild right it absolutely would be but the Dauphin island depends on those houses for its open space whether that would be state or federal parks something like that because when you have storms those are places tting nature until the next big hurricane roars up the Gulf and there will be one so this might be the kind of place where irrational government policies things like that but you're only buying yourself time in some cases you might be buying a few decades in some cases you may only be buying yourself a few years get all alike it looks today it would have far fewer houses it would have much more this message comes from NPR sponsor eleanor amplified created by former fresh air producer the podcast eleanor amplified is an adventure series kids love order can

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67: Ending 1864: The Battles of the Crater, Mobile Bay, Centralia, and Franklin

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67: Ending 1864: The Battles of the Crater, Mobile Bay, Centralia, and Franklin

"Listener Advisory This episode includes stories of a racially motivated murder and other instances of extreme violence while not explicit listener discretion is advised. History that doesn't suck is a by weekly podcast delivering legit seriously researched hard hitting survey of American, history through entertaining stories. If you'd like to support HDD S or enjoy some perks like ad free early releases or patron exclusive mini episodes, please consider giving at patriotic dot com forward slash history that doesn't suck to keep up with HDD news follow us on facebook twitter or instagram. Leaky eighteen sixty four in the forty eighth Pennsylvania's making military history. No armies ever dug a tunnel longer than four hundred feet in length. It's impossible to many ventilation challenges. The men digging would I More so said General George Snapping Turtle Mead, and army of the Potomac. Chief Engineer Major Dwayne. When Colonel Henry pleasants proposed timeline under confederate lines, placing explosives and blowing the wraps the hell they dismissed the idea as quote unquote clap trap and nonsense. Only General Ambrose burnside put stock in it and with his approval, the forty eighth began to dig. And now as they finish their well past four, hundred feet, try five, hundred, eighty, six. A five hundred eleven foot main shaft, and two lateral branches. One going three seven feet to the left the other going thirty, eight feet to the right. Dan Sounds like the army of the Potomac engineers could learn a thing or two from the quaker states coal miners turn soldiers. General Ambrose, burnside is particularly excited about this. Remember the famously sideburns general commanded this very army eighteen, sixty two. Then, he botched at Fredericksburg, he's never quite shaken that failure but as the visionary who proved this tunnel, he sees redemption here he could be the hero who ends the war. Ambrose leaving nothing to chance. As the Pennsylvanians have been digging, he's had to fresh eager to fight brigades of black troops training specifically to lead the attack after the explosion the plan is perfect and now the last week of July the tunnels ready these troops are ready. Let's do this. But wait. A last minute change. Citing their lack of experience a hero of Gettysburg, General George Meade says, he doesn't want black troops leading. Ambrose, has to accommodate this a mere twelve hours before the attack begins his brigade general's draw straws to see who's battle-weary not trained for this white troops will take the lead. It falls to James Ledley who's left to survey the terrain in the dark of night hours before the attack. Okay. Again. Let's do this. It's now three thirty. Am July thirtieth. Eight thousand pounds of black powder in three hundred twenty kegs are in the tunnels to lateral branches literally running under the confederates feet. The boys in Blue Light, the fuse and Nothing Sergeant Harry recently tenant Jacob duty have crawl back in to check on the potentially live explosives. Talk about terrifying. But they find the problem splicing issue. They fit crawl, backout, light it again and this time. At four forty five am the Earth under confederate regiments swells that explodes like a volcano. Fire sheets out of the ground while cannons tents breast works chunks of dirt, the size of houses, horses, and roughly three hundred great clad men summoned one piece others not. Source, sixty feet in the air. This part of the confederate line is now a massive crater one, hundred, seventy feet long. Thirty feet deep and sixty feet wide. Looking at the aftermath, you tent Curl Stephen Weld, or the fifty sixth Massachusetts describes the scene as quote. Horrible men half buried some dead some alive. Somewhat they're kicking in the air some with their arms only exposed in some with every bone in their bodies apparently broken. Close quote. Good God blast the rebels to hell indeed. Yet. This is the opportunity attack. But General. James Lead. Men Aren't ready for this BA I stare into this crater this embodiment of hell on earth. Then it gets worse rather than moving quickly along the crater's edges and hitting the confederates with infiltrating fire down there now exposed trenches many federal's go into the crater itself. It's not all their fault. They've never experienced this and they're leaderless James is hanging in back trench getting drunk on. Rum. After hours of this chaos, the black troops are finally allowed to go in major. William H Powell tells us their training paid off. To, quote him. Their drill for this object had been unquestionably of great benefit. Have they led the attack fifteen or twenty minutes would have found them at Cemetery Hill before the enemy could have brought a gun to bear in the sharp little action. The colored troops captured some two hundred prisoners. Close quote. If, only they could have led. Instead their successes short-lived. Confederates have ample time to regroup. He trained their cannon on the boys in blue in the bowl below and opened fire. Then come the bayonets in hand to hand combat. In the end the union suffers four thousand casualties. The confederates only fifteen hundred. Ambrose is great. redemptive victory is lost. General Ulysses s grant later calls the battle of the crater saddest affair I have witnessed in the war such opportunity for carrying fortifications. I have never seen and do not expect again to have. It's an awful loss for Ambrose burnside and the union cause, but the black soldiers suffer most. In a letter home confederate soldier William Bagaram openly acknowledges that in line with the confederate policies we learned about an episode sixty one, his fellow soldiers aren't taking blacks captive. Their quote. Murdering down in cold-blood. Quote. Come out of there. You Yanks a rebel soldier yells at Lieutenant Colonel, Steven Wealth, and an unnamed black soldier hiding at the battles and. They leave the shelter ready to be taken prisoners by the confederates standing eight feet from. The. A man in grey gives the order. Shoot the. Don't kill the white man. Welcome a history that doesn't suck. I'm your Professor Greg. Jackson and I'd like to tell you this story. The Battle of the crater is yet another chapter in the siege of Petersburg which we got a small taste of an episode sixty four. But this siege or campaign really last nearly a year. So sticking with a more chronological approach, we're going to leave. Virginia. At this point and jump around the nation bit as we start to wrap up the year eighteen, sixty four to start we'll head down to mobile Alabama and find out what happens when Union Admiral David. Farragut means a confederate fleet to well armed forts and obey full of torpedoes. After, that action I'll take you farther west too factions called Jay. Hawkers and bush-whackers are carrying out some of the most horrific violence of the whole war and setting the stage for the wild west. Finally we'll head back East Tennessee confederate General John Bell Hood is leading a daring campaign. Can he break through union lines and make it to Kentucky will union break him. So no further ado, let's get going on our tour of the late eighteen, sixty four divided states. We start on Alabama's Gulf coast. David Farragut. We met him in episode fifty and I've mentioned him a few times since then in passing but seventeen episodes is a while. Let me jog your memory. To say David was born US navy man is barely hyperbole. Finish immigrant Father Georgy sailed as a patriot and fought the British during the American revolution. So did his namesake foster father David Porter whom David Farragut joined. It's only nine years old making the lad a teenage vet of the war of eighteen twelve. David stayed in the navy in the half a century since then and never once did this son of the south consider sailing for the confederacy. In fact, he led the naval campaign that resulted in the capture of his old haunt of New Orleans in eighteen, sixty two. Yeah. That had to be a little awkward. What can I say David Farragut is union a Navy through and through. And now in the summer of sixty four, the sharp-eyed straight mouth chiseled jot mid sixties. Admiral has sight set on the confederacies last major Gulf coast port. Alabama's mobile bay. In truth David's wanted to go after it for a while east, Texas mobiles the only port city in the Gulf War confederate vessels can get past the union blockade taking it out would deliver yet another significant blow to the CSA's economy and the southern sailor means to do just that. So here's the lay of the land or water as the case may be. Mobile Bay. itself is very wide, but it has to highly effective natural barriers protecting it. On the eastern side is thin, Sandy fifteen. Mile Long Peninsula It cuts west dramatically reducing access to the estuary. The other barrier is just below the bay's western shore. This is the fifteen mile long dolphin island. That leaves David Farragut with two options. Attack the small four PAL protected gap between South Island and the mainland or the larger approximately three mile gap between South Island in the peninsula? He's opting for the latter. This will be no small task. There are two forts to contend with over here. Dolphin Islands Fort Gaines and on the Peninsula's point for Morgan. While both are brick built and well-armed for Morgan's eighty, six cannons make particularly deadly. And we're still the confederates have filled the waters between these two citadels with water mines or torpedoes as they're called in the nineteenth century. Each of Mobile Bay's almost two hundred torpedoes pack enough punch to sink a ship. The only safe passage for his eighteen ship fleet that is four monitor style ironclad in fourteen would in vessels is two hundred yard opening directly under four Morgan's guns. They'll have to sail through in a line. Oh and if they make it this far, they'll be met by four confederate ships. In other words, they'll run a deadly gauntlet between two fords torpedo ridden waters then have to fight off a flotilla. Sounds almost recital. and. Yet. Here we go. It's early morning August fifth eighteen, sixty, four, the union loyal southern steams toward mobile. Bay. Better Handle Fort Morgan is wooden ships are lashed together and seven pairs larger ships are starboard they'll be absorbing the fortresses punishing blasts The action starts with the ironclad USS, tecumseh opening fire on Ford mortgage. Citadel answers and kind but as the fleet fort dual gets underway, the tecumseh connect with torpedo. The waters of mobile base swallow the powerful crucial ironclad. And less than a minute. Screens at explosions, Renne, the air as nearly all of the Tacoma's one, hundred, fourteen sailors go to their watery graves. Nothing short of a nightmare. Unsure terrified the USS Brooklyn's captain halts his ship. It's a devastatingly bad choice. Leading the line of Union vessels, his decision forces the Union Fleet of eighteen ships. Make that seventeen now to stop. And slaughter ensues. As Lieutenant as signal officer John Kinney describes quote. The whole fleet became a stationary point blank target for the guns. Afford. Morgan. Close quote. Aboard the second ship in the attack line, the fleet's flagship, the US Hartford John Watches in horror as cannonball sever heads and appendages including one man he loses both legs to one ball only lose both arms to another as he's falling. David Farragut will be damned though if he'll at one scared cat and destroy his fleet. The season battle-hardened Admiral Barks out in order for the. Hartford. To go around the Brooklyn Damn the torpedoes full speed ahead he screams at least according to legend. Hearing, deport the Hartford soon takes the lead and its crew cringes at the sound of their whole scrapes against torpedoes. Will share the comes his fate. Now. Looks like their dads how lucky for the Hartford. By this point thick smoke from cannon fire obscures the Hartford's field of vision. But if David won't let a captain's fear, stop his attack sure as hell won't let a physical impairment do so either. In. An Act as legendary as his damn the torpedoes line, the brave admiral climbs the main masts rigging mid battle. Here high above the bill is of smoke he haulers orders to the crew below. David's only protection is a bit of rope. The boatswain uses to lash the admiral to the very rigging itself. The commander remains an easy target, but at least he won't follow his death. It. Confederate flotilla attacks as the union fleet enters mobile bay the ironclad CSS Tennessee charges toward the Hartford. One of its rifleman's spots. David. Lashed to the rigging and fired repeatedly at the exposed admiral. The union commanders. Colts. Every shot misses. The Tennessee turns away but the federal flagships woes aren't over three confederate gunboats into the fray. The Hartford Fire starboard broadsides at two of them. While another, the CSS Selma opens raking fire on the Union vessel. The Hartford, responds by cutting loose, it's accompanying for excite ship the medication. She swiftly steams ahead and his joined by others from the Federal Fleet as they emerged from the torpedo Fort Gauntlet. It made quick work of the Selma forcing the rebel vessel surrender. The other two confederate gunboats are soon. Now the picture as well. The gains runs aground while the Morgan flees the fight. Yet, the Tennessee still menaces a powerful ironclad designed to ram other ships she steams toward the Union. Fleet. To Union screw sloops the Mananga Sheila and the Lackawanna try to beat the Tennessee at its own game dashing themselves against her iron whole but only end up damaging themselves. Then comes an ominous moment. The rebel ironclad in a Yankee flagship face each other down bow-to-bow. Perhaps fearing go down with her intended victim the Tennessee turns slightly off course. So she and the Hartford only graze pass each other. As they do the wooden union ship unleashes up broadside on the confederates, but it's utterly ineffective. Let God. The Tennessee seems invincible. Shortly after this that the damage Lackawanna, nearly collides with the Hartford. Frustrated David calls out to his flag officer John Kinney. Can you say for God's sake by signal? Yes. Sir. John Answers then say to the Lackawanna for God's sake get out of the way and anchor. With those orders from his intrepid commander John Takes his flags and literally signals just that. The fight rages beyond the fort's range several David's ships, Ram, and fire on the confederate. Then to union ironclad monitors the chickasaw in the Manhattan get the Tennessee within their range. As they blast their foe with eleven and fifteen inch guns. One of the chickasaw shots strikes Tennessee's rudder chain. That skillful or lucky shot disabled the ship. Cheers. Erupt from the Union sailors but there sobered by the carnage that greets them upon boarding the silence iron behemoth. The Manhattan's new tenant will later recall that the Tennessee's decks quote looks like a butcher shop. One man had been struck by the fragments of one of our fifteen inch shot and was cut into pieces. So small that the largest would not have weighed two pounds. Close quote. Sitting, twenty miles or more north and secure at the head of the bay. The actual city of mobile will remain in confederate hands until the effective end of the war. But that doesn't really matter. The confederates have lost the battle. The smaller fortification at the base soul other entry point for Powell falls that afternoon. Journal, Gordon. GRANGER's men than support the Union Fleet in taking out the other two forts. For gains will fall a few days later on August. Eighth of Fort Morgan Hangs in there until the twenty third. Two forts in a flotilla of torpedo laden water should have been a death sentence. Instead David Farragut closed a significant hole in the Union blockade took high profile confederate prisoner, the Tennessee's injured commander Admiral Franklin Buchanan, and of course, as we know from the last episode provided a victory that along with General William to come to Sherman's Atlanta on September I will help give new energy to Lincoln's reelection campaign. Tam David is not one to mess around with. Considering his equally brave eighteen, sixty, two victory at New Orleans. It's hard to disagree with signal officer John. Kenny. Who calls his lashed to the rigging torpedo damning admiral quotes. One of the greatest naval commanders, the world has ever seen. Flows quote. That wraps up our time visiting with David Farragut. It's time to get back on land and head up to Missouri where guerrilla warfare massacre await us. History that doesn't sake sponsored by Babas. Baba's makes most comfortable socks in history of feet. They've literally rethought every little detail of the socks we wear to make them away more comfortable. I wear them every day and I love how they never slide off my heel or bunch up on my toes. Doesn't matter if I'm in the classroom or going for run they keep me comfortable all day long. But the socks do more than keep my feet cozy. 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Missouri has been at the center of the fight over slavery since its birth as a state, you may recall from episode twenty seven that went into play for statehood. There was a big row over whether it should be free or slave. It ended with a compromise that brought Missouri into the Union as a slave state and set the free slave boundary of future Louisiana purchase territory at parallel thirty, six thirty. This held until Missouri's next door neighbor Kansas apply for statehood in eighteen, fifty four. The old compromise died as did a number of people amid pro versus anti slavery. Violence. On the one side Surrey's border ruffians used voter fraud and bullets to try to make slavery viable in their neighboring state. Kansas abolitionists responded in kind forming their own vigilante groups that came to be known as Jay. Hawkers. Things got so bad. is both sides robbed and murdered each other the term bleeding Kansas came into use as I told you about back in episode forty one. Yet the vigilantism only heated up when war broke out. Given. Their anti slavery sentiment mini Jay Hawkers Aligned with the union and became federal units. Meanwhile. Many Ruffians became bushwacker. Think banned its use guerrilla tactics to ambush union troops. They are officially in the confederate army, but they fight for the PSA when it fits their purposes. But whether Jay Hawkers Bushwacker Don blue or gray make no mistake these men who've cut their teeth in this conflict by murdering robbing and plundering their foe aren't letting go of their wild west habits or grudges. Frankly for some of these men, the wars just licensed to indulge their thirst for such unsavory acts. As historian James McPherson puts it quote. The guerrilla fighting in Missouri produced a form of terrorism that exceeded anything else in the war. Close quote. There are numerous examples of such brutality among Missouri's more than one thousand civil war battles and skirmishes but perhaps, the most famous or infamous rather happens in September eighteen, sixty four under the leadership of the. bushwacker. Called William Bloody. Bill Anderson. William is not a man you want cross. If there was any doubt about that. He settled the question last year during a particularly rage raid on the abolitionists stronghold of Lawrence Kansas. See you need commander. Thomas Ewing had previously arrested a number of bushwacker wives and sisters for providing support Intel but the jail holding them in Kansas City Missouri inexplicably collapsed. Some. died in this tragic accident including one of William's three detained teenage sisters and these deaths inspired the bush-whackers hit lawrence with an unparalleled fury. Kill every male and burn every house, their leader William Clarke quantrill instructed and on August twenty first eighteen, sixty, three, they did their best to live up to that. Is Four hundred fifty raiders raised one hundred, eighty five buildings and killed the hundred, eighty, two males, men and boys alike. As they butchered citizens and plundered William Anderson made a name for himself. Literally, that's where he picked up the moniker bloody bill. It's now September twenty, seventh eighteen, sixty, four in a bearded long-haired William. Bloody Bill Anderson is in a foul mood. Not only has his sizeable posse suffered some setbacks in recent days. Six of his men were killed and scalped by federal troops likely Jayhawker. But he's tired of waiting on confederate general sterling price. He decides to move on the small rail station town a Centralia. It won't necessarily help the confederate cause, but he might get news of the general and he wouldn't mind plundering the hundred or so people who live there. They arrive in Centralia at ten am the homes and stores provide little value. The one box car on the railroad proves nice find it contains boots half of these bush-whackers wear stolen union blue coats already so they'll happily wear union boots as well. Better, still whiskey. Barrel of it. Buddy bill and his men drink deeply. Some of the inebriated bush-whackers hold up a carriage with guns drawn they loudly demand. Out with your pocketbooks, we are southern men and confederate sympathizers you ought not rob us. The Soon Wallace passengers protests why do we care hells full of all such southern men? why Ain't you in the army or out fame? Yeah. Don't mistake bloody bills policy for ideologues. If anything they're, opportunists. Speaking of opportunity. Comes a train. It's about twelve noon when the conductor sees, the bush-whackers ahead is probably eighty or so at the train station, some are stacking railroad ties on the track to force to stop train others are riding around the slow train in their stolen blue coats, shouting firing off their handguns and otherwise instilling fear in the trains horrified one, hundred, twenty, five passengers. They're aggressive. War cries blend with the terrified screams and sobs of women children looking at the gun toting bandits through the train cars windows. bush-whackers board the train. They grow from car to car taking jewelry watches, pocketbooks for anything evaluate. If, fire their guns into the ceilings yell and swear the passengers while the Scared Children's Saab. Bloody Bill opens the safe in relieves it of the three thousand dollars inside while the future famous outlaw brothers frank and Jesse James are among those who find a suitcase filled with cash good God here's thousands of greenbacks frank exclaims? Right, it's about ten thousand bucks. Are they're soldiers on the train? One of bush-whackers calls out. The passengers admit yes, there are but they're all unarmed. And that's true. The twenty-three soldiers on the train had been discharged or they're on leave from General William Tecumseh Sherman's Army, which is currently fighting in Georgia. These men are simply headed home. The bush-whackers charge the union soldiers coach surrender surrender surrender quietly, and you shall be treated as prisoners of war one of the bandits haulers. We can only surrender as we are totally unarmed a soldier replies. Bloody bill presses all the passengers onto the train platform force in soldiers to exit onto the. Flat Open Plain. bushwacker surround the Union. Take off your uniforms strip. Obeying the order, the soldiers begin removing their blue uniforms and their boots. One soldier Bill Barnum requires help. It's not easy being stripped of your clothes while on crutches. And other unfortunate is a to integrate. Poor English and had the great misfortune of wearing a blue shirt that passes for union blue. As this plays out bushwacker take another pass at robbing the passengers shooting one well dressed man. Amid the screams cries of his mother and all the children in the crowd. His dead body drops on the tracks. Soldiers are now told the lineup. This it. Are they going to be killed. Some pray others plead for their lives. What are we going to do with these fellows? Little Archie clements asks. Parole, then of course. Bloody Bill Answers. Thoughts. You might pick out two or three though exchange for cave. Yet maybe they could trade back that fellow bushwacker. Cave Wyatt. Blood bill agrees and haulers. Boys have you a sergeant in your ranks. No response. Have you a sergeant in your ranks the twenty four year old commanding bushwacker forcefully repeats. If there be one, let him step aside Sergeant Thomas Goodman is sure whoever steps forward as good as dead. Maybe. Lucky at that. Frankly. What will happen torture then death You won't let it happen one of the other sergeants. Wearing nothing but his underwear he steps forward as quickly whisked away by tube routes. You federal's have just killed six soldiers scalp Tom and left them on the prairie. I will show you that I can kill men with as much skill in repeatedly as anybody. You all to be killed and sent the hell that is the way every damn soldier shall be served with falls into my hands. Amid cries God sobs and others you choose stoic silence roughly twenty five bush-whackers fired their revolvers. Successful a dozen men stagger and try to flee. Except Val Peters that is the massive powerfully built naked soldier charges at his executioners blood gushes from his wounds as he pushes past them. He hides in the train depot. The bush-whackers burn him out of hiding it light up the depot and simply wait. Valley merges wielding a flaming pieces of wood is a club. He beats to bush-whackers to the ground but then. The executioners finish the job. They, get a clear shot, an empty twenty rounds into him. Twenty two union soldiers and one unfortunate German lay dead. The bushwacker scout the corpses Lee fire burning at the depot. Enforce the engineer to send his lit up flaming train steaming down the track with the whistle sounding. Not, a soul on board. Bushwacker may canteens of the new boots to haul the whiskey and he put the almost bare sergeant Thomas Goodman, on a Mule Hellfire too good for you. You son of a bitch. Big taunt while pointing their guns. Adam. Bloody Bill, and his men stop another approaching train. The force it to run over a dead soldier severing the corpses lags. After setting this train on fire to. The bush-whackers right off with their captive sergeant. Drawn by the building smoke over the town union major eight Johnston and his thirty ninth Missouri. Mounted. Infantry ride into Centralia they right around three PM and are overwhelmed at the site and smells of a dead scout soldiers. Now. The major has some green men letty bill and his boys or season soldiers. The Majors Union force is just over one hundred, fifty strong. In full force, the BUSHWACKER number three to four hundred. In other words, a federal offensive is not the logical choice right now. But the strong headed major won't let this stand. He leaves a few dozen troops and Centralia and takes one hundred twenty or so out to fight bloody bill and his game. The Rookie Cavalry seen spot ten riders. An easy target they pursue until they've written about two miles outside of Centralia. Then across an open field. The thirty ninth Missouri. Sees. Bushwacker Eline Young's creek. They number eighty. The union men still have the numbers to one. Yet to major age Johnson surprise, they appear not to be fleeing, but to be preparing to charge him. The major orders, his men dismount in prepared received them with bayonets. Mahogany God, the Lord have mercy on them they're dismounting defy. A bushwacker exclaims. It seems they disagree with their union adversaries approach. All Sit in silence for several minutes. Frustrated the major yells at his Co. we are ready come on. And they do. Bloody Bill twirls his hat and at that. Is Eighty men back the hammer on the revolvers in unison. Then slowly be advanced. But as they draw close the Union soldiers realized more Bushwacker Zoom. They hadn't seen earlier emerging on their flanks. Charge bloody bill yells. Union. Soldiers in the back flee while the inexperienced ones in the front fire irregularly and with little thought for aim. They hardly hit a man as the far more numerous in mounted bushwacker swiftly close in on them from three sides. Some federal cry for mercy others fight with the bayonet winnable INS, their commanders life. Bow Fall silent for a moment. The bush-whackers dismounted advance on the surrendered federal's was swords bayonets in is hand. Here again, the bush-whackers kill and mutilate their foe severing heads to place on fence posts and removing ears is. Nearly the entire three ninth Missouri is wiped out. Added to the unarmed soldiers on the train. That's death count well over one hundred. Bloody Bill Loses three men. Small numbers for civil war we both know that but the massacre in the battle of Centralia not only demonstrates how. The fight is in Missouri. This fateful September day also numbers among the most lopsided engagements of the whole war. Bloody. Bill get shot in the next month. He dies a villain in the north in a hero to some in the south. Bloody Bill and other bushwacker will be romanticized as we'll. They're equally violent. Jay Hawkers. Indeed let's remember that while I've elected to tell you this one of the most incredible tales of Missouri's violence don't mistake the union slash Jayhawker as saints the shoe can be an is found on the other foot. Future generations will re imagine bushwacker Jaywalkers alike as Robin Hood, type heroes. And to be fair, they aren't without a code of honor notice that amid the extreme violence I never once mentioned an instance of sexual assault, against women. Furthermore. The bush-whackers come to respect prisoner sergeant, Thomas Goodman, and has such. They let him go ten days later. Just, how virtuous these men are will vary from figure to figure. But either way they'll make excellent fodder for twentieth century Hollywood. I mean, who doesn't enjoy listening to Clint Eastwood ask are you GonNa pull those pistols or whistle Dixie? But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Plenty of time to explore the lives of the wild west. Civil war trained outlaws and see where facts me apart from silver screen legend. Once mighty conflict is over. For. Now, we need to visit one last crucial, eighteen, sixty, four campaign, and that means heading back east of bit. An entire army is about to me is effective in and the state of Tennessee. It's November, eighteen, sixty four and things aren't looking good for the confederacy. Abraham Lincoln is winning reelection. Ulysses s grant's campaign slash siege in Virginia, which we guide taste of today's opening continues and Union General William Tecumseh Sherman is just beginning a famous or infamous depending on your view March through Georgia. No question. Then the CSI needs serious win. But since the damage General John Bell Hood's Army of Tennessee is doing to rail union supply lines can't lure comp out of Georgia the confederate commanders come up with a Hail Mary play. Here's the plan one legged John Hood and his massive gloriously flowing beard will take his forty thousand man army, which is currently in Florence Alabama and headed Tennessee. They're the aggressive commander intends to fight his way through the state sixty thousand federals. Now. That sounds nuts in frankly likely is but there is some logic here. The boys in blue are divided into two fairly equal sized armies in two different middle Tennessee town's one is Nashville. The other is Pulaski and yes, it is named after the Polish revolutionary war hero we met in episode eleven Kashmir Polaski. Nashville is roughly seventy five miles north of Polaski. If John Hood can somehow keep these forces from uniting that, he'll have the numbers on his side in each engagement he can beat them then push north into neighboring. Kentucky. Once there he believes he can find another twenty thousand recruits. Then take his enlarged victorious Army East to help Robert Lee defeat US grant. It's a bowl play but to continue with sports analogies, they do say the best defense is a good offense sprite. Let's see how this campaign turns out. Joined by the Feared Cavalry Commander Nathan Bedford Forrest General John Hood and his army of Tennessee depart north from Florence Alabama on November twenty. First. The march furiously John Wants to get between the two union forces to make sure he can take them on one at a time. But Tennessee's federal general see this both by the way are men we've met previously up in Nashville we have the southerner whose family disowned him for his union loyalty General George Thomas He commands the army of the Cumberland. You might also recall his awesome nickname, the rock of chicken Maga, which he picked up back in episode sixty two. Dan Polaski we have General John. Scofield. He commands the Army of the Ohio in answers to George. Thomas both men led armies during episode sixty, five Atlanta camping. Both men are savvy enough to surmise that their confederate opponents will try to divide and conquer them and acting with such foresight John. Scofield moves his force forty miles north to the duck river near Columbia. It's a full on a race between the two opposing armies the boys in blue. March. Day and night. To their breakneck pace, be managed to reach the small town that was once home to James K Polk I the whole. Alas. Without time to visit his house turned museum. I'm kidding, of course, it is a museum yet. John Scofield's federal's take defensive position on the northern side of the duck river, which means the confederates still haven't managed to get between the Union army's. From November twenty fourth to twenty seventh there are small skirmishes but things heat up on the twenty ninth. In stonewall Jackson style John Hudson's Cavalry Commander Nathan Bedford Forrest on an eastern flank movement, a strike union troops farther up the turnpike that leads north to Franklin. If they can take this small village or more importantly the road they will effectively prevent these union forces from falling back farther north in reconnecting with George Thomas Zeman. The fight rages through the afternoon. Some. Federal. Lose Hope. At one point an officer sees one soldier retreating in a full sprint. Stop my man what are you running for? He yells out because I have no wings to fly with the still running soldier haulers right back. Thankfully for such terrified federal troops, John Scofield becomes aware of the flanking movement and since two divisions to help them hold the all important road. Doesn't sure an easy win though the battle springhill rages on as the autumn daylight gives way to the dark of night. John Hood has full confidence of a morning victory as he retires to his headquarters. But John Scofield has some tricks of his own. He takes his entire army marches north that very night. Moving along the turnpike the pass within sight of confederate camps. A few confederates notice them and make reports. But nothing is done. The whole. Union army passes them by as campfires crackle. When daybreak the next morning November thirtieth John Hood learns of what happened. Why slapped the flanking at Spring Hill was completely for not the union armies are only that much closer to uniting. Enraged at frustrated the one legged confederate general immediately his forces after John Scofield's. It's now early afternoon John Hood's men have spent the whole morning marching only to find their northern Fo- dug in Franklin twenty thousand Yankees wrap around the town's Western and southern sides below the harbour th-. River. They're all tucked in their earthworks, their artillery's prepped and ready to go. Considering. The Blue Coats high tailed it out of Columbia Spring. Hill just last night they couldn't be in a better defensive position. Generals Nathan Bedford Forrest and Benjamin Cheetham both tell John Hood in attack here is folly. But always he determined he sure that half his problem in this campaign has been the weakness of his men. They're soft. They need to toughen up and be real man and with that line of thinking John Hood insists that his army will attack. The men prepare for Battle Irish immigrant turn confederate General Patrick Clever whose fierce fighting we heard about an episode, sixty two reports these ready to the confederate commander. General I am ready and I have more hope in the final successive are caused than I have had at any time since the first gun was fired. God granted. John Hood Answers. With precious little daylight remaining the Graham butternut troops form lines around fourteen. The military band strikes up and they advance. Rifles cracked the fighting gets hot. The federals fall back they dash the half a mile to the next union line as the confederates yell shots and fire. Patrick. Cleverness Division is among those in the heat of his fight. He. Knows that if they don't break the Union line now thought a hell the time during the later. As he leads his men forward, his horses shot from underneath them. No. He another. Two is soon shot. Patrick now, advances on foot in the front sword held high encouraging his men and then. A bullet rips through the irish-born confederate generals chest. He falls dead than there. Patrick's death is heavy loss with say, but it's far from the only such loss here. Today rebels managed to overrun some Yankee entrenchments. That first retreating federal line is out of the way union artillery and rifles unload on their enemy. The fighting ends in the dark of night at nine o'clock. John Hood has stained almost seven thousand casualties. Six confederate generals are dead including just Patrick, but also general states rights gist. Yes. You heard that correctly first name states, Middle Name Rights States rights gist. How's that for an aptly named confederate? Fifty four regimental commanders or casualties as well. Meanwhile, the unions losses are just over two thousand or about one third of John Hoods. I don't think this was the lesson in manliness contended tended to give his men. Were still for the confederate commander John Scofield gives him the slip. Again. The. Boys in Blue March the last fifteen miles north to Nashville through the night. By the next day generals John Scofield and George Thomas have a united four strong in numbers while John Hoods greatcoats have suffered a huge loss to there's. Many of his men are truly bidder. A Texan in the confederate army of Tennessee Sanyal t foster writes this in his journal. The whales and cries of widows and orphans made it Franklin Tennessee. November thirtieth eighteen, sixty four will heat up the fires of the bottomless pit to burn the soul of General J. B. Hood for murdering their husbands and fathers at that place that day. Can't be called anything else but cold blooded murder he sacrificed those men make the name of hood famous. When if the history of it is ever written, it will make him infamous. John Hood is the only thing he can at this point. He pursues he takes his army up to Nashville where his former West Point Professor General George Thomas Now commands a combined army of all seventy thousand men. Confederate offensive would be insane and it seems that even John Hood understands that after what just happened to Franklin? and. So he sits outside the union held state capital in a waits for the Yankees come to him. To surprise though the days pass. No attack comes. And why not? Ulysses grant and the bigwigs in Washington start to get nervous. On December sixth euless wires the following order to George Thomas Attack Hood at once in wait no longer for remount over cavalry, there is great danger of delay. But still he doesn't. attack. War Secretary Edwin Stanton fumes that this is like having George Little Mac McClellan back while you list considers relieving George Thomas of his command. After two weeks of waiting though the Old West Point professor completes his preparations. He's ready to school his old pupil once more. In this time John Hoods failing the course. On December Fifteenth Fifty Thousand Yanks Fain then charge on the twenty five thousand ribs to Black Brigades participate in the opening movements there. Colonel will know after the battle that quote colored soldiers had fought side by side with white troops they had assisted each other from the field when wounded and they lay side by side and death a new chapter in the history of liberty has been written. Close quote. Continuing with the same tactics the next day the Union army prevails. John. Hood gets the remaining twenty thousand or so of his very depleted army to the safety of Tupelo Mississippi in January eighteen sixty five. Understandably. He then resigns. The momentum has shifted several times in this year's long war. But as is the case here in Tennessee is decidedly with the Union as we end eighteen, sixty four. Were almost ready to charge into the last few months of battle in the year eighteen, sixty five. But one chapter remains before we do so. Union General William to come to March to the sea. It's not a story to rush though. So join me next time as follow comp on scorched earth campaign that will smolder in the hearts of some. For decades. History. That doesn't suck is created and hosted by me Greg Jackson, researching and writing by Greg Jackson C. L. Salazar production by airship. Designed by Derek Barons theme music composed by Greg Gas arrangement and additional composition by Lindsey Graham of airship for Bibliography all primary secondary sources consultant writing this episode visit HDD. Past Dot Com. HDTV supported by fans at Patriotair Dot com forward slash history that doesn't suck. 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Fix It 101 | Answering The Call

"This is an MP. Think Radio podcast here previous shows visit MVP online, or or download the MVP public radio APP. Listen on your iphone or android. From PB think radio. This is fixed one, the home improvement show to help you do it yourself. I'm Jason Climate. Pan Pipes achy certified inspector at inspect it like a girl and licensed contractor. Jeff Simmons from house works is out this week. It is an open topic show. So we're looking for your questions to get your projects completed around the house. We talked about quick fixes or big projects even major renovations we want to hear whatever it is. You're doing this more. Also with Jeff Simmons being out this week we welcome back of our favorites Timmy mcclendon from AC remedies and you can join the conversation with us this morning by calling eight seven seven in pb ring that's eight, seven, seven, six, seven, two, seven, four, six, four, or send email to fix it one at P. Online dot org how you folks doing this morning. I think I think. That's beautiful. Cool morning I'm not doing a pain. You, I was wondering about what AC guys do on that first crisp nor morning of the. Of the year. We hibernate you hibernate. Okay. Okay I got lots of questions about that because we we kind of joked last week about that first time you turn on your heater and get that burke smell that burt dust smell that you get. So we'll be getting to that a little bit later on Pam. How's your week gone? Well. I'm GonNa Tempe is just awesome. This weather is great and Timmy say you know I always tell my parents if If they want any work done in their attic on Mir ductwork or their system, their HVAC system now's the time to get her done 'cause y'all. hibernating fright. Try To. Deep Sleep Fam-. Right well, it's funny if those who don't know if. Ten Timmy's been coming around the show here for a few years, and if you don't know there are a couple of different timmy's there's the timmy that comes in June and you know he just he he looks fantastic. He looks like the guy that you come into your home and doing the air conditioners well around November he looks like he's been in Alaska for three months and hadn't shaved. Out in the world. Yeah. So you're probably in the inbetween times right now got kind of like a five o'clock shadow going on right to me. Career a jury never been doing. Your services, cleanup eaters and stuff like that. But. I'm not a not pricing it right now you know deer season it's not. Starting? Yes. There's where the priorities are alright. So Going this morning. What Pam have you been working on this week? Well actually I'm getting shop Organiz just purchased a new. Saw It's a mitre into walt compound, Lider? And I wanted to a God a battery operated one I. I really wanted one that plugged in the size that they had told the guys at the stores like you guys really need to start thinking about having tools for the ladies right the don't way so much that can be moved around. So I purchased this one because it's small and then I've purchased a stand a movable stand and I'm so excited I've got projects lined up for the weekend. I'M GONNA get out there and get that Saul set up. I think that's cool. Pan Because it's funny. You know. To make this real for kind of everybody and understand what that means is this. You know when you go through and you find just the greatest tool in the world, and then all of a sudden you've got all these projects for that tool to participate in. You know it's The equivalent would be buying a pair of shoes and things have address to there you go. There's She almost reminded me of home improvement little ten, the toolman tailor. Oh. Yes That's paying. All right. Well this I've got something for you here. Timmy just to start us off remember if you've got a caller question is eight, seven, seven Empty Ring Timmy. This was from last week so that you'll know to me we talked about the fact that many washers out there like washer and dryer a clothes washer has a internal filter. Many times can be changed, and so we got an email after that. Show that I think you might be able to help with listen to your show this morning washing machine filter. Learned that the washing machine has filtered that could be accessed by removing a couple of screws on the front panel. My machine has no screws on the front or side panels only several on the back panel further a wobble the drum I hear water in the machine sooner or removed the back panel to access the filter, and why is there water in the machine? Well okay. So Timmy thank goodness you're on today so you can just take all of that and go. Be, fun. The FILTER THEM That they're probably talking about, this is a a pump filter. So you know you're washing plays the lint and stuff you notice on the closure self and it goes down through to pump has got a little screen inside of the front. So that point. Sometimes, it depends on what kind of. Washer you get. But disliked old style pump. You know you have to transition on top of it. There are usually about three or four degrees of sitting on the front side of the pump to staggering at the washing machine like you're gonNA put clues. that sometimes you have to pull the whole. Actually got you gotta pull the whole case off the whole thing, which isn't usually two screws and two clips and enough. For your. Silver. Switch. but that's usually not to her take. The newer ones are completely different. Every one of them are built different that would be Kinda hard for me to try to guide somebody on exactly where that will be. Go ahead. I'm sorry Oh. The water inside the drum she was worried about a when she walked. Wobbles the drum. She hears the water in the machine and she's worried about that. But but there's some water in washing machines. Correct. GotTa be Basically, you know when you take your watch sheen off the wall, you know you're pulling it back for. That bigelow tea that comes up from the bottom gaze into the drain, your water faucets usually offer. So that thing holds water heater that that one who's there and you laid it on the floor, it was completely out the rest of the water the since I was. Really the pulse actually taken the water from the washing machine in pushing it up. So some of them run on time Sasha other got a little switch and there's nothing sees dry. You know where it's like, okay. My waters dome it quits and they're usually leave a little bit of water in the bottom of you won't be able to see it because of A. Screen the whole and all that stuff it is but they always ordering the bottom that. Interesting and let me ask is that is that pump filter always in a washer? Not, always. So it's got a little in pillar in there and then pillar sometimes, we'll just take it all in and I think it's a good idea. The United States is not second order I like you. You, know you need to clean the filter sometimes just at least too much water in there. They'll do that too. But I personally. I guess I really don't mind either way goes that not all of them had the new, the new style ones you know the front in style. Those are the ones you don't sit on the base usually the the older style had little screens on them. They don't make it sound like a screened in Porch Kinda screen. This is something like you would want to say. Like, a miniature wall, whole look and touch. The one on my washer that I've cleaned out is more of like a almost a small basket. All right. Well, let's move on. Patrick is on the line and Is, it is that Dolphin Dolphin Island Alabama. Okay cool. So what's going on Patrick? Well a couple years ago I built masonry firepit You know just a fire circle. And put it together with The Masonry version of like liquid nails and after a year or two All the the bonds failed brick started getting loose when you put your feet up on it, they all came off crime. I don't know what kind of cement or mortar or something I need to use it. If you will hold up outside will also hold up being a theft. So you didn't you when you first put the fire pit together, you did not want to go to say a a a mortar you wanted to go with more of a a glue kind of structure then the more. Yeah. I don't know anything about masonry no I just you know. I just. I felt liquid nails. Forever it has been everything else. I ever use it. Right? Right Button on this one. Okay. Okay. So All right. Let me go. Pay. Them what is your thought? You know. Something that I would probably do. If I were and I I've worked on fire pits before I ended up just going over to. My folks they're garden works in. Bonn. A metal one that I can throw. Stuff in, but it's limited on it's I think it's like herding. Right if you wanted a bigger one, the problem we run into when we're building anything, masonry? Bets going to have extreme temperature changes. So you're going to go from having something. That's really really hot. And then let's throw some weather on top of it is well, and if you're in Daphne, you're close to the coast. So let's just out a little salt to the. Exchequer here So you're gonNA run into some weather issues especially with the liquid nail you might WanNa check that I'm not sure an exterior application on some of those products is good some of them and I was amazed I new siding on my house couple years ago. And I. It's like buying light bulbs at the hardware on. You and I was. There really thirty different thanks for and I had to read the label. It was annoying. But I realized if I got the wrong thing citing was gonNA come off. Sto- I would go over to like a A Lowe's or home depot or Sutherland someplace and big box store and go over into like in Milos. It's to the far right in contractor section. And I would get a hold of one of the folks over there and say this is what I'm doing what is the application and what product do I need because if you get the wrong thing you end up with what you've got with the deterioration also, if you're going to come in with Rick in mortar specifically on a horizontal surface, that's GonNa get water on it. It's very similar and we need our chimney sweep in here but the top of the chimney if it is not sealed off, it will literally bus that break up because the rain will get down into that mortar because brick and mortar believe it or not is porous, and if we don't allow some type of a drainage for that specific application, the weather's just going to tear A. So, you might WanNa look at. Building, your fire pit wall, and they come across the top with like a piece of stone or something that is above that that keeps the water from going down into it. So it's a great idea. Review. Of Class. I was. Say I painted bowl starters in the bottom of the fireplaces. Yes. So. A Ton of things out now, I'm doing fire like gasifier laundry in the wintertime. And May I come across some? Literally go in there with a problem you know and just pop the brick out to get to the but the gas or cooked to the bolster. And there's some other ones that I can literally sit there for two hours. The motoring the breakout always thought that that was maybe a different type of motor used for that for the fire brick that goes into the brick fireplace. He he got the firebird you know that goes in many got the decorative briefest knowing what goes on outside around outside of the team before. So. They use the same mortar for all of that. Now they shouldn't that actually a great observation because you don't, and that's the one thing that we don't do. Well in the south, we don't build fireplaces well. Because, we're using them for pretty. We're not using them to eat how she brought up north and you've got a totally different animal up there because they're using a specific product because they know that that unit is going to be used a lot here we turn on our air conditioner in the winter so we can have a fire. Right. Well. Okay. That's that pretty much. Yeah. You're right and Patrick does that help at all did that get to your problem? Some of it. Just sounds like I got to do more research on what's the right kind of mortar or? I, would I would I would do that Patrick if if it were me and were you, I would first of all, go find. A video. Yes go find video of someone laying brick like that for circular like. Believe it or not. Mixing up the more that sort of thing you're not gonna find this this project. Too difficult but you will find it very rewarding because there's a permanence to it. Once you used that mortar. All right let's keep on moving. We've got a gutsy and Jackson with a wireless doorbell question what's going on Gussie? Good. Morning and thanks for taking my call ma'am. I had a standard go bill about ten years and then I decided to get around it. So bill, but it's not really working too. Well, I've replaced the battery inside the door bill itself as well as the taste, the batteries that on the wall. Where other pain And I did this twice in the bill bill seems to work maybe a week or two, and then it stopped working. So I was trying to figure out. which is a better deal Dell wireless or just the standard one. Well, who may who makes your doorbell I? Is it like. It's It was Allen. Purchased the call. I'm not sure who the manufacturer. This light rain or something of that nature. No nothing like that it's just A. A lower cost. Wireless the. Generic. Okay. Okay. if it's wireless that means. It's using something called Rif radiofrequency in the biggest issue with that is going to be distant. So. So how far are two things apart, the doorbell and the receiver end, which would be where the sound comes out inside. Is that front door and that receiver apart. I. I. I'm just GonNa just going to throw this out there. If, you can move that the the the sound portion of this doorbell thing that actually rings in receives the signal if you can move it closer. especially if it was. Kinda, not a higher end product. The are F is not going to be a strong that meaning. The signals not going to be a strong. So the closer you get to that the better you're going to be is now did the let me ask you this did the doorbell is not a wireless doorbell meaning a WIFI doorbell? Is it? No I don't think so I never thought about I'd like that. Right if it's Wi fi, that's a whole different situation, but if it's just a little remote control thing. Where you push the button and the sound comes out in a different place that is really this probably going to be a reception problem in you just need to bring the bell closer to the door. I think we can do that one. I think that may help. Okay well, thank you so much and you'll have a very nice program. I enjoy listening to eat. I. Have a great. Thanks. Straight to Timothy and Louisiana Timothy what's going on man? Delta came through you know name but I'm fine. Well. Good. I got two to two. Answers here for you the Patrick with his his his fireplace. Yes, Vajpayee. US refractory cement go do not go to a big box store do not go to big box store nobody knows nothing there. Go for it. Go to a masonry supply and get refractory cement refractory. Yes. Okay I built fireplaces tonight can guarantee that this is the stuff us. Fantastic. Thank you take. Desi and who doorbell situation it's probably she getting cheap batteries. Okay. You're. The minute they go below like fifteen, hundred millions bright. You know they just don't do so go find some good batteries. You don't like loops yourself like, okay. Hang on just second timothy you said something and now you're gonNA have to back it up good batteries. What is it good battery? In. Luke is might they N. E. L. O. P.. That's a brand. That's a brand. Yeah. So you who makes that sucker? Let me look at my I got one right here. Can you pick it up at the random store or you have to go to some special battery place? All you got to go to Amazon. Okay. Go. Anywhere. Crap. That's okay okay. Or Energy. That's another good brand cinergy tenor. Yeah. It's just energy with t all the beginning of it okay. There re-chargeable and they last a long long time I been using the same in loop batteries. I thirteen years. Oh come on Timothy Thirteen years. Double as thirteen teen years. Okay. All right. All right. Well, thanks Timothy. We appreciate the the heads up on those things we're gonNA take a break real quick, and we want to hear from you what is happening at your home. Give us a call at eight seven, seven in pb ring that's eight, seven, seven, six, seven, two, seven, four, six, four, or send an email to fix it one, zero, one and N. P. Online dot org we'll be right back. Hi. I'm Dr Jimmy Stewart, professor of internal medicine and pediatrics at the University of Mississippi Medical. Center on the original southern remedy. We answer questions about all aspects of your health and shears some of the latest medical information in the news. You can listen to the show on Wednesdays at eleven on 'em pb think radio or you can subscribe to the podcast by searching for seven remedy on your preferred podcasting. APP. Thank radioed this is fixed at one zero, one I'm Jason Client Who Pam as she certified inspector and inspect it like a girl and Timmy mcclendon from AC remedies it is fixed one one on MTV think radio. You can join the conversation this morning by calling eight seven seven M pb ring that's Eight, seven, seven, six, seven, two, seven, four, six, four, or send an email to fix at one at M. P. B. Online dot org. Okay. A couple of emails here the need to get to. Go with this it was so much fun to hear and please Pam or Timmy. Gives your opinions here stuck chuck that is the name of the email. Hi there I'm listening this morning on how ladies ought to learn how to use tools and it made me think Jason. Pam could perhaps answer my question, which is this I have to walk cordless grill with a stuck chuck. What can I do to get unstuck this? This is going to be fun if you do this a rhyme thing, right? Okay. If I can't get unstuck, do you think I can take it to my local hardware store and they can fix it hey, for it to be junk or just useful with that one bit that fits it. So. Basically, she's got a bit in this doll drill in the chuck, and for those of you don't know the chuck is the little thing on the very front end on the business end of a drill that you literally insert a drill bit or a screwdriver bit of some sort. It's the part that spins on the front. But it also, its job really is to properly latch onto either the the screw thing that you're using or to the drill bit. Its job is to kind of get its teeth into it and hold it so that the drill bit will continue turning when going into wood or something of that nature. So that's what the chuck is in a lot of times if you use it to do something kind of difficult that that chuck. Can Get pretty tightly wound on there and getting that chuck off is I will say it. Is That's when I'm like. Playing, Hulk, you have to take Bohannon dry as hard as you can with different tools and stuff to get that thing unstuck sometime. So do you guys have any any ideas for for tiffany? Okay. We're GONNA talk about how to unstuck a chuck unstuck, with Pam. We're GONNA unst joke and this was actually one of the lessons that I gave when we were doing the deck. Cordless drill. Well, let me say this lady's anytime. You're doing something you don't. WanNa think about how strong do I have to be you WanNa think about leverage. How do I work this of it? I don't have to have an inordinate amount of strength I just WANNA. Have Leverage. So. When that has happened to me on my default cordless. I will take it over and put it in vice. Grip in my shop. And I will put the chuck in the vice and tighten it up as tight as I can, and then I will put the drill in reverse. And then when I hit the Power it will reverse itself and unstuck. The joke. But you gotTa have a good firm hand on that grill. On the drill. Sorry, oh. Yeah. You gotTa have a real good and what you can do is you could brace that somehow up against the table if he wanted to do that. Generously, event idea because I'm actually with my cordless drill, I had an unfortunate. Incident where I was trying to drill a hole in my fence so my dog could see out. The square all. Your. Yeah. Everybody does this or he can see it out. So I had a six inch bit that you would normally use put vent thence in your sofit and I went over there and try you'd literally spun me around I. Almost thought I broke my wrist. So you just gotTa think about. Grace that drill. But if you've got a good vice grip and you put it in there, you tighten that up and then you can pull the drill over to bracelet against the. Whatever the table or whatever it reverts it'll it'll on stuck unstick but this is as as as she mentioned, this is kind of a thing in. It's either a brute strength thing or it's a smarter thing you have to out think it. It really is just something that's too tight and it's going to be. It's not unfixable is not certainly not broken. People wait for people tools away like that And don't make the mistake of when I first got it started doing all this stuff I thought I had to put my hand on that shark and yet reverse right And I just wasn't long enough I had to find something else to hold that, and if all else fails take it down to the hardware store especially one of these small mom and pop tanks and they'll loves fixing it for you oh yeah. Oh. Yeah. Timmy he ever get duct. Landing. This. Law. On the the. You know. And the ringing or whatever. The inside that thing get a little risky. Yup. I've had that happen before they just take some three in one old and just drop it down and look the. Sift for the while when I get there and I just got a big channel locks. That's GONNA. Put it in between League through. And just kinda crank on your channel. Awesome work at least sometimes, it came a booker. Yeah. So Tim is gone for the brute force idea. Safe. Right all right let's go to the phone. Kathleen on the line and psycho. Kathleen was up. Well this one was directed to Timmy. Couples show sack with Kimmy. It's been a couple of months they were talking about Michael waged. There's a solution I came up with that. He can have the idea and give it to everyone. On The microwave. A. Four. I guess someone who's manufacturing them but a flap bear. So you don't have to have the clock operated my electricity, make it to where you can take in out batteries easily and shut the flap because out here in the country every time you turn around with the wind blows rains if it gets too hot. The lights go out quicker and you gotta reset everything. So if you have one most of them have their little timers panel, this would be solution to prevent it quick, easy, simple, and cheap. Nobody will do it well, and you know what? That's a good idea Kathleen. What were you gonNA say Timmy Had the whole. Butter slot like eating put betters. Yeah. So that you can keep your clock going but I'll tell you kathleen we use the blinky clock to tell us the power went out. That's what the Blakey. Clock you. Get to the door. I. Thanks a lot Kathleen. We're going to go to Sidney in Jasper County and he's got a gutter question what's going on any? Good. I want it. Yeah. What do go? On. The light just boggles me great go. He put up a brand new girl. And put that. Were over top of them to keep me leave him getting in now guards. Yeah. Can they keep this R., The rock. The the. Saying the other than that right from the. From the shingles. Yeah Sing. The. First Time he put him up rain leaking the the cold and told them unique. He come back. When you come back I didn't live. I thought he'd know doing I would back doing what I had to do when I got back here started in the middle and they nigga in the milit- leaking that end where you begin it. So make a long story short. He didn't. Even been back five ten. And is still leaking from the inside to only between the House on the good. I got that that served as put on in the make you go to stick out. Way. Man. So anybody got an idea for Sydney. Have you tried data put up a metal drip edge near we did it. And it still leaking between the gutter in the House and the station I'm I'm up to. The nine. Hundred and forty. Two thousand dollars to keep doing knowing not well, and if you're having water, you're saying you've got a leak on one side of the gutter. You know. Outside The. Spouse I you know between the the girder then how? Right. I got a loom inside and all around. But. It still leaking. But I told my kids they're morning lease between the girl and the how. What kind of gap do you have between there? How Big It was about a quarter of less than a quarterback. Ceiling that didn't do they need get. that. Decide decided Tenneco he told my mom. Of were sticking out of Ford Right. So he's. Work. Yeah and he sent me back. I ain't GonNa well I down for. This company him what he taught a workout call them so Yeah. Big, box. Here, that's winter and they hide the contract and he only been putting up eight-year. Lit night he'd been putting them up provide eight days. going. Well, number of years doing something doesn't mean you were doing it right the whole time so. But Sydney, the fact that you're getting a leak on one end is pretty telling for Gutter Timmy, you WanNa, get in that at all. Kind, of opinion you're. When Talking about the The singles or? Not, we ask your shingles or too short or if if they installed it and Mrs jets listening now he's out fishing this morning. I do not like a gutter and stalled on the furring strip. Because then you're your shingles will be too short and you've only got two is of that to play with. Now that they're already put up. Probably what I would do that point is if I were going to do this myself. I would go and get a role. A ROLE OF ROLE OF FLASH And counted. Put that under the shingle so that it extends past the shingle. So when the water is coming off of that, it drips down into the gutter and doesn't backwash back between your guttering your patient. You did that. I gotTA got. It and The only thing I see that that trying on top of each lease. Yeah. He thinks that it Kinda sneaks up. So he can't. Push that that team. Standing. Over were either make admit that I tell you what we talked last week about Gutter guards and their relative effectiveness or not. And so that if that's holding you back and keeping the water out of your gutters than that might be something to think about Timmy you're saying. Both you're probably know Zach with them all three. Point shooter and they push it up to four. Yeah, you make make a trip. Down the single painting probably knows I'm talking about is like trying to install your your station board up to talk to the scene, and you make a little machine wars like get like a bowl in it so. Now when it rains the water is going to run single just a little bit and facial and run down by. Interesting. Wash. If it. If it doesn't have a correct fall if there's not enough of a slant on it, water is ponding in there and back washing over underneath I will. You Know Sidney let me say this. To kind of wrap this up but. I'll say this if someone has been to your house to fix a thing, five times, you've got the wrong someone. Yes it it's time to move on to another contractor in please check to see if they're licensed and all that other stuff because they're going to be on your roof however I'm just not giving somebody six times to fix something. They did that one too. Our relationship has done at that point. I knew what I wanna hear somebody beside me. Okay. Well. One of the things you want to keep in mind too is that you do have some recourse. If this came through a big box store, they're supposed to guarantee them the product. The group thing I gotTA. Say. 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This podcast is a local production of Mississippi public broadcasting and depends on the support of listeners like you. If you can please donate today at MP be online dot org and thanks. You're listening to fix it went to one on NBC. Think Radio I'm Jason Client here with Pam Pipes achy certified inspector at inspect girl and Timmy mcclendon from. AC. Remedies is our guest today Jeff. Simmons from house works out you can join the conversation this morning by calling eight seven seven M bb ren- that's eight, seven, seven, six, seven, two, seven, four, six, four, or an email to fix it one one, m PB, online, dot org gonNA email here. This is one of my favorite things we were just talking about gutters and roofing in those drip edges and everything else and I have another email that I do want to talk about regarding that that. However the first sentence did make me laugh I have to say, okay. How do I find a reputable person to repair my roof? That's about ten years old my first thought was a ten year old roof repair person but anyway. All right I live in. MMA county a few weeks ago. I noticed a water stain on the living room ceiling the man who installed the roof removed a large limb and said that the roof was fixed. Today nose to the water stain has grown. How do I find a reputable person to repair the problem before it gets worse? Thank you. First let's start in because this one includes our last caller. I do want to say this and we mentioned this a lot but it's almost good enough for every show. If you're looking for a contractor in the state of Mississippi, it's write this down right down this email. This webpage. M. S. B. O. C. Dot U. S. that's Mississippi State Board of contractors and those that that put that there so that you can look up licensed insured bonded. Everything you need contractors that you can rely on and and if they're going to be on that site or if they're going to be own a home builder site, you can look at your local homebuilders organizations you can hear him Mississippi you can look at 'em H. I. I think that's Mississippi. Housing Institute not sure. information I forget which one it was but either way if you look at those sites, you can find reputable contractors that are licensed, and if they are that if a job is improperly done. Most likely those people will come and make the job right for you. So find yourself a licensed contractor One of the other things person asked Jackie asks who's also once the roof is repaired. What's the process of painting a water stain on the ceiling something? I've not done before because of replaced. Timmy Pam, if you guys ever painted over a water stain. This Man Yes. Okay Go. On the weirdness. You know. I've had some more last for two, but luckily, it wasn't so bad and actually made the buckle a little bit. The. First thing you want to school base kilts. Spread on there and it a spray can even make. You gotTA turn it sideways. It's called Oak okay. So he's talking about is K.. I L Z kills. Heels. and. Did a little false on the a little ivory sprayed. Someplace or whatever but it's Definitely. Awesome. Stuff He definitely want to paint it after that. The hardest thing in my opinion is probably trying to match painting. whether you're doing a wall or sealants, but I've learned if you by. by some just whatever I mean, I will I'll say a paint store. Wherever, that is and your. But he gets you some regular soon white. And If it's just a lie. To the one in one and. They want it makes it just a shade darker almost like like older paint job like. Them saying that they want L. One on shot of black shot whatever aliens ankle laser always tell them and Anyway you can roll it on a little. England. That's fantastic. Thank you. The I forgot about the upshot kills can so. If you've ever done hardcore painting you'll know kills is that primer stuff and you can get it in every strength and size. You could ever want between oil and latex and the whole nine yards however. There there is a can for spring your ceiling and the spray goes straight up and it's a primer white. So you'll probably have to paint over it, but it probably kills typically covers every stain on a wall. There's one store every. Jets. Sales I save on watch breaking. Really. I. Don't know if it already has to be one. Or not, but it's like a little touch up playing the straight soon white my say white on white man nothing there. Right but they also shut up. Okay. Great idea. All right. Thank. You don't want. Right. So hurdle causing is the one that's over here in the Jackson. So. that. That is a that is like paint store. That's all team, right right okay. It's just lost the skin a little rattled fan. Let's single. Okay all right. Number Eight, seven, seven empty ring that's eight, seven, seven, six, seven, two, seven, four, six, four or you can email fix it what I wanNA NPR online dot. Org. So I've got another question here, and this one is going to be this one's going to be interesting. Pam. A really feel like there's going to be right up your alley here we have drainage issue at our north facing front steps. The area of that has mildewed. It is pressure washed about every three months. He sent a picture with this Pam. What you're looking at is about three steps up to a front door. Okay and those steps are most likely around four to five feet wide and one side of those steps. Is. The brick is molding. On there and it looks as though this particular piece of. Right, here on this front steps always stays wet. Now, she says, we're not aware of any water leaks. The bill is remained consistent. We've cut back a lot of the trees and shrubs in the area to provide more light we had a general contractor out to the House who suggested we've raised the dirt under the window three to four bricks higher seal the outside of the steps of the Sherman Williams sealant, and this may solve our issue. My wife who listens to your show regularly has has concerned about the slope of drainage away from the House. If we add more dirt and thinks she recalls one view saying not to seal the bricks, do you have any suggestions? What do you guys think? So she's got this. Half. Verse steps has just kind of moldy in you know it's always wet there. What what are we looking at here? This this actually goes back to our fire pit. Because break is people need to understand brick and mortar is torres. It always will hold water even on the side of your house, it's holding water. Because that services vertical behind supposedly you're supposed to have I think it's a quarter of an inch to an inch gap between the brick and the cladding or your be right. If you don't have that in the Brits, will sweat on the back side because of our temperature differentials and getting into steps sounds to me like that contract with retry. Anytime you put brick on a horizontal surface it is going to gather water and if it's not sealed correctly, then it will hold the water. So I'm not a fan of building exterior steps out of brick for this very reason because when water gets down in there and we don't have freezing temperatures here we're Kinda do freeze it is twenty twenty. For Christmas or something but. You don't feel that the water's going to get in there and You know without seeing an exact phone of it I think cleaning it off. Real good weight. You know we got a real dry temperatures right now there's low humidity. You could clean those things up let them dry out completely and then come in with very good exterior grade sealant brick and the mortar. All right I. Also see the point where they've mentioned putting in a little dirt. That picture I did see was just straight from the house. Straight out there was no fall it seemed from the front of the House. So there there might nothing. Jeff says you know got to have so much all in. See I. Think it's two to three inches of fall or whatever. Yeah. Adding that in there, and then if you're getting draining shrug off your roof coming right there, it's probably digging a hole. Point. Problems so You could add that I. I would could some dirt but I'd also come with some type of landscaping stone. Make sure that the water's coming off that I had to do it on my front porch I have a metal roof over my dislike deck in front of the House and I was having water sitting in there. So I dug that out and put in a French drain and then brought into my French drain stung on both sides of the water was directed right at the drain. Filter filters out dirt that might get into the drain so. All right. Let's go onto Cathy, who is on the road on the phone? What's going on Kathy? Hi I just wanted to say this wasn awesome. I'll our 'cause I've learnt so much in my dreamworld on a contractor building houses yielding bit building privacy fences putting up real doing mason masonry with pizza ovens. So have learned about if you were doing. You know outside fireplace kid or whatever what you don't use and what you do. For it to stay together I've learnt they. They'RE GONNA be water in the bottom of the washing machine no matter what I've learned about. I've learned about adding z one in L. One q the sailor I believe to make the paint the old I've learned about the gutters that even if they put up certain systems, you still might have that gap overlapping if you're what if your roof if they're not coming down are now so I appreciate the lower. So if someone's talking about something and I'm just sitting there I up and say, Oh, I know what to do so I think out for that I'm GONNA hang up. Oh A. Catholic. Thank you. Diploma she. I didn't even know we talked about all that stuff so far. PRETTY GOOD Thank you very much. Okay. Should we? Go. Let's go to bill and olive branch. What's going on am bill? Well. Ladies and Gentlemen WE ARE MISSISSIPPI? Yes. Sir and humidity rate here is about nine hundred and three percent right? And so when they have that ceiling at a lake in it. They might want to check for mold before they put any kills or paint on it. And rectify the mole because if it's up to the ceiling and there's installation of there that they can get out. they get guess dry insulation there and dry that. I'll see rock out from the bath great point. That's a great point bill because once the stuff get started if you just hide it, it'll keep growing. So that's a great idea. Make sure that stuff especially, the installation doesn't get wet, it'll hold water. Thank you for your comment bill. We appreciate it and it has been a show. Hadn't it folks? There we go. Thanks. Timmy fix it went to one. Of Mississippi Public, broadcasting think radio on his funded by the generous contributions. From Lizard, like you our show is produced by. John Chapman or call screener today was Liz Gill in for Pam Pipes and today's goes. Today's ghost today's guest host. Tim mcclendon. Jason Climbs. Stay tuned for a Wednesday Ten am program Everyday Tekla Jay White and join US next Wednesday at nine for fixing one only on. MTV radio.

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"From NPR and Wbz go, this is wait. Wait don't tell me the NPR news quiz. Somebody's knocking at the door. Somebody's ringing the bill I'm Bill Curtis and here? Is your host making a chase bank auditorium out of his mash potatoes, Peter Sago, thank you bill and thanks once again to our fake audience. WHO This week are! The computer generated artificial people that foxsports created to populate Empty Baseball stadiums this summer. That is absolutely true they did that. These fake fans amazingly realistic. Now Watch how they all leave during the eighth inning to beat the traffic. Later on. We're going to be talking to pod Moloch me. WHO IN HER TV show taste? The Nation traveled the country to understand all the varieties of American cuisine. We don't really care about the food. We just want to hear her talk about going places other than the spare bedroom, but first we want you to join us virtually of course and play our games. The numbers one triple eight. Eight wait wait. That's one eight, nine, two, four, eight, nine, two four now. Let's welcome our first listener contestant. Hi, you're on, wait, wait. Don't tell me high for Shelby Dini. Shelby where you calling from Denver Colorado Oh what do you do there on the public defender? All my gosh, so you know. Have you been doing that virtually, or are you still having to show up in court? Virtual for most of the time. Going back to court in July and how did that feel going back to court well and good, but it's really weird having to be in a mask and on six feet away from your client and everyone else. Have you ever been tempted just to show look? He's guilty says he can get out of there. Working not guilty. There you go. That was very good. You're good at your job. Shall me. Let me introduce you to our panel this week I up. It's an any winning writer as well as the voice of Jesse on the animated hit Netflix show big mouth. She's the author of the New York Times Bestseller. You'll grow out of its JESSI Klein. Next a writer for the current season of at home with Amy Sedaris it's Peter Gross. Hello And finally, making her debut on our show correspondent for the daily show with trevor, Noah and host of the new podcast that black ash show on Star Burn's audio. It's dull, say Sloan. Shelby welcome to the show. You'RE GONNA play. WHO's bill this time. Bill Kurtis Right. Here is going to read you three quotations from the week's news. If you can correctly identify, explain just two of them. You will win our prize any voice from our show. You might choose on your voicemail. You're ready to play. I'm ready. Let's do it. Here is your first quote. Person Woman Man. Camera TV those words might be the ones inscribed in marble above the door of the future presidential library devoted to whom. chomped right. Yes, it is in fact Donald Trump. convoluted, but you got there a few years ago. The president took a test given to people suspected of having dementia, and he aced it now to give you a sense for what that test is. One of the questions is to look at a picture of an elephant in say what it is, which is fine. Yeah, it's good to know. Our President can tell an elephant apart from crocodile that comes up a lot in bilateral trade talks with a Richard Scary picture book. This test also required him to draw a clock, and we imagined the doctor, saying no no Mr President clock. And draw, not show exactly. Why did he say those five words? Because if I'll ever see in that test is those pictures and beneath that it's not those five right, so he's been. He's been bragging about this test for a long time and when he was talking to Chris Wallace on Fox News, Chris Wallace not that hard so now he's got. It's hard, so his latest Fox News interview. He went on for about two minutes describing how difficult this was. They make you say five words in a row, and then a short while later. Make you remember them. When you don't have to say them in order right well. He says that if you say them in order to get a certain offer, you get extra points run. We actually asked Dr. if that was true. If on this very standard test, you get extra points if you say them again in order, and she said and I quote her in full. No. It seems like if you leave a dementia test bragging about all the extra points you got on your dementia test, you have dementia. And now the reason I should say that he keeps going on about this test is that he says it proves he's brilliant and he says Joe Biden. Could never pass this test no way and he's right. Because no way Biden could be limited to just five words, it'd be like. Man I met a man in a factory and he said to me Joe. They called him belly. Can he do that? I'm that old art school tests that used to be on TV where he ended. Send in a drawing of a turtle. Try to draw turtle, and then he could just go to art school like Hitler. All right. Let's move on to your next quote. Don't shoot your mother. That was a chance aimed at federal troops were now. Patrolling the streets of what city? Portland Oregon. It's under siege by anonymous federal troops with military gear and portlanders. Did what any of us would do in that situation. They called their mom. Portlanders don't like being seized shoved into unmarked vans. They prefer to be kidnapped in more environmentally friendly petty caps, so enter the wall of MOMS. A group of middle-aged women in Bicycle Helmets who are locking arms and taking on the riot police. Oh, the moms are here and they are mad well as they put it. They're not mad. They're disappointed. Chan things like respect, the constitution and speaking of that it's not too late to go to law school. You know what I would say. It was very interesting. Has I've been to port on multiple times and to be anywhere. That has more black lives. Matter signs in black people. Is Always suspicious, but when I started, the city was like I was like Oh good I realize there's no black people arrested shoot. I thought that would be a life. DETROIT CHICAGO, but they're just like shooting at White MOMS very music man make street. Oh. Yeah, the anonymous Athena. This is the woman who walked up to the riot police, the federal troops whatever they are. We don't really know stark naked. And sort of sat down and I don't know how to say this showed her glory eagled, she spread Eagle. If. That's helpful I think they were just like all right Ma'am I mean I don't know why he would want the street to give you a pelvic exam, but Haven't you ever heard of a street, PAP? It would be a bummer if you if you had. Like forty of your girlfriend's Raleigh. We're going to do it to. Got Down here guys. That's why you don't see that picture is her turning around going? Okay? Ladies were all here and now everybody. Take your clothes. She could've caught sitting on the ground at Portland. Was He got organic? All right shelby, we have one more quote for you. It is from a woman looking back after four months of lockdown I. Don't think I'll use them until the actual end time. So, what are Americans not using as much as they thought they would back when all this started Oh Yeah it's kind of the magical fruit. The more you eat or rather, the less you eat. I guess the less you. Hand being yes, beans. This week NPR's all things considered reported that after months of lockdown. Many Americans are now experiencing being buyer's remorse. As they realized they did not actually need all the beans. They hoarded back in March. All those Tinos pizza rolls though gone by April. One. Company reported a seventy percent increase in being sales back in March along with harmonicas and sticks and Bengals. Maybe it was, we realize. Gorging on beans was not a wise thing to do. When we were locked inside with their loved ones, it did not want to give them any more reasons to hate us. Did you guys? Did you do this? Did you guys run out and buy all the beans you could? Because you thought you'd end up surviving on them. Well the first three weeks of the quarantine I was on the Daniel vast. So it's the IS A. Old Testament Biblical fast, and basically the only things you can eat. Our vegetables. And you can only drink water is. That sound like a pandemic friendly di-, did you ever find yourself searching through the old testament like looking for a cheeseburger mentioned in the book? For example, you know you can't big meat and dairy. Good, the woman is good. I was just going to say. I continue to eat one Hershey's bar day in addition to all the other food about. Were just like a one Hershey Bar Day. That would have been impressive. Bar Plus On the Milton Hershey, diet, he wrote about in eighteen ninety. Five chocolate addition I'll throw eggs. CHOCOLATE BILL! How did shelby doing our quiz? Unanimous verdict for shelby three rights to translation shelby. Thank you so much, shelby, take care, stay safe. Detail by. Hey Right now panel? It's for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Dole say lockdown has affected all of us in different ways according to a new study, fourteen percent of men say they've grown attracted in a romantic way to what? By here. No, and I think you'd have to be locked up for even longer for that to happen. Can't hit. Yeah, it is a wonderful companion. If you ask you for anything, she orders it from Amazon. If you share your secrets with her, she just tells Amazon. Alexa yes yes. Alexa now. Researchers speculate that the rise in men falling for their smart devices is likely of course, due to the forest isolation of the pandemic, plus it's Nice, have a partner who takes an active interest in. You constantly asked me interested questions like I'm sorry I didn't catch that. Can you repeat it? Yes that is never happened in most marriages. No, no! That's what I forgot. What you were saying because I wasn't listening I'm out here single. Try to catch me a husband and he's. Speakers that tells you saying how? You got to change your name to Alexa. Make at. Bet You if you make media LEX voices, GonNa these full show. Temperature talk yesterday. Girlfriend, house wrong but you. Yes! I'm falling in love with you to. His he he food. Coming up practice save. Everything in our bluff, the listener game call one triple eight. Wait way to play. We'll be back in a minute with more of wait. Wait, don't tell me. From NPR. Support for this podcast and the following message comes from best fiends this summer. Engage your brain with challenging puzzles and collect tons of cute characters in this family fund mobile game. Best fiends is a five star rated game and has over one hundred million downloads. 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Kathy from where Hoover Alabama Hoover Alabama I can't say no Alabama well, but whereas hoover. It's where it's supposed to be. A I would say a little north. Four fifty nine runs right past us all right the next time I'm only fifty nine. I will absolutely look direction. Well welcome to the show Kathy. You're going to play the game in which you have to tell truth from fiction bill. What is Kathy's topic reopen? Sesame businesses everywhere are reopening for five minutes until after close again. Our panelists though are going to tell you about a business that figured out a new way to be safe in the age of Covid pick. The one is telling the truth. You'll win the weight waiter of your choice in your voicemail mail ready to play Oh. Yeah, well, then let's do it first. Let's hear from dual say Sloan Miss Kathy. Hat your northeast of what Mobile Tuscaloosa Birmingham well. If you come up for mobile pretty much, stay straight, you'd be right. There I'm from Georgia to Alabama all the time. So that's why I was like. Yeah, you, you go to Gulf shores and stuff like that. Yes, ma'am, I go down to the Dolphin Island Oh. How wonderful my family loves! Southen Allen and we discussed straight down sixty five and the mobile, and then right over there came and know your state highways. I am impressed I'm from New York I. Don't know any where you guys were talking about. Don't you wish you did though, didn't you? Didn't you listen to them talk? ended. The mobile that's beautiful. Cat Gamete starting got telling me if I'm telling the truth now. Okay, so Geremek's has partnered with Oregon to create a spray sanitizing system for retail stores and restaurants that disinfects customers as they walk in. A spokesperson for the system stated. This is a match made in Heaven Jerem Max is the leader and sanitizer in organism expert at sprang unwanted pests. Our current unwanted pest is Kobe nineteen. Like the Water Mr in the section of a grocery store, customers will be sprayed with a fine antibacterial Mr, twenty seconds the same amount of time. We should be washing our hands. Unfortunately, there have been a few hiccups in this well meeting plan while testing the new system at a CBS. Some customers complained of the miss ruining their clothes, hair or makeup and left him dripping with. One customer was quoted as saying. This is ridiculous. Everyone is soaking wet and flammable. One static shock and this whole place will go up flames I came in for allergy medicine, not indoor slip and slide, but it did make my shopping trip faster though I was able to pick up some items as I slid through the aisles, a customer that threatened to sue because her desire suit was ruined as she barreled down. The makeup style was informed that she couldn't sue. Do the damage injury waiver that was on the last ten inches of her CVS receipts. CVS spraying down their customers with disinfectant before they're allowed to come in making them somewhat slippery. Your next story of a safety solution comes from Peter Gross. The Dunkin donuts in Clinton Connecticut has been opened for drive thru service ever since the pandemic struck in March, but when the state move to phase three of its reopening this week, the store was finally allowed to have customers come inside. We were really excited to see some of our regulars face to face again, said store manager Lisa Kobe. Her franchises smaller than most Dunkin's though in Kabul was worried about covert exposure in such a tight space, so she asked for a little leeway from corporate and came up with a really intriguing idea. The six foot doughnuts, which was introduced on Monday is the perfect combination of edible food item, and once in a century pandemic safety protocol. How does the six foot? Don't work well if? If you've ever been inside of an inner tube than you know what it's like not to just order, but also wear a donut upon entering the store you were given your choice of glazed chocolate, vanilla or pink icing with sprinkles customers simply slipped the six foot donut over their head until they're comfortably encased in the six foot in diameter, forty five thousand calorie twenty five pound. Fitted with suspenders to help keep it at waist level. You can either start eating your way out of the doughnut in the store or take it home with you and enjoy the equivalent of seven hundred and fifty donuts at your leisure so far Cobo is thrilled with how it's working out. People have really been enjoying coming back into the store, strapping on a donut and bouncing. Bouncing up against other customers like they're in bumper cars. The CDC is proclaimed the six foot donut as ninety percent effective at preventing transmission of Corona virus, but one hundred percent effective at giving you a new malady called type two donut. Beatty's six foot donut served at a Dunkin donuts that people put around their waste to make sure they keep safe distance from the other. Other customers. Your last story of protective measure comes from Jesse Klein, a speed with which the pandemic has changed. Every aspect of our lives has been stunning, but at one pub in England. The changes are quite literally shocking in an effort to enforce social distancing among boozy crowd. One tavern owner in Cornwall installed an electric fence inside his bar to keep an abbreviated clients at. At Bay Johnny McFadden owner of the Star in tried several different tactics before going with the fence, but apparently things like ropes, floor stickers, and the fear of covert itself were no match for customers consuming one pint too many, so finally inspired by the electric fences, commonly used to keep sheep together in his rural farming town. He plugged in an apparently the threat of electric. has worked fairly well, says McFadden quote people are like sheep sheep. Keep away, people keep away. Some might be concerned at a bar owner whose installed a live electric fence and his establishment is opening himself up for many lawsuit, but as McFadden sees it quote as long as there's a warning sign on an electric fence and you are warned about it. It's totally legal McFadden, maybe no lawyer, but he's got a doctor's concern for the health of his customers and cheers to that all right gaffey somewhere there is a business that is opening up with. With one of these concessions to safety in the age of Covid is it from dual say CVS that started spraying down customers with disinfectant before they come in the door from grouse Dunkin donuts that selling special six foot donuts that you actually put around your ways to make sure you keep distance, or from Jesse a pub in England that has installed an electric fence to make sure that nobody gets too close. Which of these is the real story? I'm really think story that sounds plausible. Is the bar all right Kathy your choice. Then is Jesse story of the bar with the electric fence while we spoke to the innovator who came up with this new safety precaution. As long as there's a warning sign on an electric fence, it's totally illegal, and as the fear factor it works. He says in that accident. It sounds true. That was Johnny McFadden Landlord of the Star in the bar with the electric congratulations Kathy. You got it right year into point for Jesse. You've won a prize, the voice of your choice in your voice. You did it. I love it. Thank you so much, cathy thanks for playing and stay safe. Thank you. And, now the game where people who amazing things try out the Monday in for once is called not my job, so Pablo lock me is a model actor and author, but mostly she's famous for doing one thing better than anyone else, and that is eating. She's been a judge on top chef. From Within fifteen years. She recently released a series on Hulu. Called taste the nation where she travels the country to try different kinds of American cuisine pod. Lakshmi welcome to wait wait. Don't tell me thank you. I'm really glad to be here. That was sort of a joke, but I'm told that you actually do have a superpower that you're a super taster I was. Yeah I mean it's. It sounds more impressive than it is. It's like you know the human version of Len. Dogs can hear whistle set humans can't. That's awesome, so, but you didn't technically know that you had this ability, but did you know there was something different about your growing up? Did you know that you were special? Yes, I did I. Don't know about special, but definitely my family thought I was weird or strange, because even when I was a toddler I really enjoyed very spicy. Spicy foods very spicy for Indian cuisine, and so I would always seek out really spicy pickles in Chile's in my grandmother's kitchen, and they kept moving those jars, higher and higher on the pantry shelves, and then I would just climb them like the Monkey, and basically you know one times there, and the glasses oil the in it slipped from my hand in it now and I'm just hanging there for a really long time, because if I jumped down, I would've jumped onto Glasson, oil and. on save need, but I always had buried keen. Sense of taste and smell, which is not always great if you're dating me but I. Guess like my partner tastes like four showers a day. We were talking earlier on the show about what we've been eating during the pandemic. How have you been doing? Have you been cooking at home I? Assume you're quite a good chef I was. Else cooking five minutes ago. you know the first thing I did in pandemic was go out. Twenty five pound bags of rice and lentils, whereas you know my daughter was hoarding Cheerios and my partner was hoarding weirdly dried apricots, peanut butter, and we still have like forty seven boxes of cereal and I'm pushing the Syrian. who she and all of Diet because I need space in my answer is a possibility got like the dried apricots and peanut butter. Because he thought it would might make him smell a little better one can help. I, consider myself a decent cook, but I've gotten so bored with my own cooking. I just can't think of anything that interests me to eat anymore I'm like. Can they invent a new animal or something? Just Aga- my own cooking. Believe me the other day I was I. Can Somebody Else Cook please? Your daughter is like I'm going to make a cheerios castle. You are going to love with topped with dried apricots. You must have been at some time in your career in in a situation where somebody lovely. Who You love has made you some dish in. It's terrible. And you're not going to tell them that. What do you say? I. Don't say anything. You, know I. Just like I made it, my mission to to not ever lie to my daughter and I just talk around difficult questions. On I I just don't say anything I mean. I'm thinking of a particular Passover dinner at you. Know some my daughter's father's relatives hours. and I just didn't say I. Just you know I I hope you listen to the show. If she's an older Jewish woman. She absolutely does. I'm sorry. So I wanted to talk to you about your show. Taste the nation, which is awesome. You travel the country and you immerse yourself for the episode in various communities and talk about food as part of their culture, and it's great. What do you do if you're eating somebody's cooking and you really don't like it on this show because I've created the show in, I'm choosing where to go I'm going there for particular. Reason I, I have to say though in the native American episode I was very nervous I was shaking in my boots. Beth a pack rat. It was my first rodent. Scher I'd never had anything like it. I've been a lot of funky stuff over the years as you can imagine I had pack rat glaze with US Samak a sauce and it was divine. We're going to have up through thanksgiving. Traditional at being, you should have your in-laws over and having. Hop Rat. Is that what you say? I don't know what kind of. I. Don't know you should describe a pack rat for everybody. Akra is a very small desert animal. nests in bushes of it has its tail. It's very. Unique about eight of them full. If you're just eating the LEGS I. Personal experience now and you know when it's done because you boil it until the tail falls off, my aunt had passed them for Thanksgiving one year. You just go in the kitchen. It which is a skin possum in the sank and I'm just like. Okay I don't I don't know anything about your personal life, nor do I wanNA private. The one thing I would guess could break up a relationship between Jew and non Jew was Manischewitz wine. Like you drink this stuff? I gotTa tell you after snazzy over. The food was I was begging for. Managed. That's really bad food them. When someone says past the MANISCHEWITZ, you're like you must hate my food. Well Padma Lakshmi. It is a delight to talk to you, but we have invited you here to play a game. We're calling top chef. Meet top breath, so you know and work with the best chefs in the world. What you know of the top refs. We're going to ask you three questions about sports referees answer to correctly, and you'll win our prize for one of our listeners voice of anyone. They may choose for their voicemail. BILL WHO IS PADMA? Locked me playing for Christopher price of San Diego California all right. One of the pioneers of refereeing was hockey Ref Fred Waghorn was responsible for what important innovation in refereeing was it a? He introduced these striped uniform because quote I. Find It quite slimming. Be He was the first ref to check to player by picking him up and carrying them off the rink or see he was the first raft introduced whistles to the game to replace the traditional referees Cowbell. I'M GONNA. Say he should use the whistle. You're exactly right now. That's what he did apparently. At that point, referees use cowbells to indicate the start and stop a play, and a fans started bringing their own cowbells. Confuse them, so he said nobody else will have a whistle. All right next question. Joey Crawford is a legendary referee in the NBA suspended for the season because he did what a he grabbed the ball from Chris Paul after Paul missed, two free throws and said. Let me show you how to do it be. He challenged him Duncan who was sitting on the bench to a fistfight or see? He called a technical foul on Steph curry just because his drooling mouthguard was really gross. Say. The first one. You're say the first one that he walked up Chris. Paul took the ball and said. Let me show you how to do it after Paul Missed Free throws. Yeah knows actually number two challenge Tim. Duncan to a fistfight. This was after he had already called two technical fouls on Duncan for laughing at him its all bad, but this is not for you because there's one more question. If you get this right, great NFL referees went on strike right before the two thousand twelve season, resulting in the league bringing in replacement. Replacement, refs, who were not good. In fact, one of those rafts had done want before he got his chance at the NFL A. he had his driver's license revoked because of his poor eyesight be. He applied to be Aref in the English football league because he didn't know they meant soccer or see, he'd been fired from the lingerie football league for incompetence. is there in lingerie league. I. Think you guys made that out. No, there really is a lingerie football league. It's women playing football, football and lingerie not man. This is GonNa Shock. You not men playing football. Well, you know there you go misogyny. The men get to have all this padding doesn't seem fair I'M GONNA go with number one. You're going to go with number one that he had his driver's license revoked that he was so blind that they actually took away his license to drive, and yet he got a job refereeing in the NFL. Yeah! It was actually number three. It was the lingerie football league. In fact, there was an entire crew referees from the lingerie football league who ended up in the NFL and we're blamed for some of the worst things that happened during that brief period of time. Bill, how did POD MILWAUKEE? Do in our quiz is not only. Got Technically she got one out of three, but let's cover an extra point for bringing such spice to our show. Very Padma, thank you. Bodmer locks means new show. Is Taste the nation on Hulu? It's wonderful, but warning it will make you hungry for food. That's hard to get right now. pod Malaysia. Thank you so much for joining us. Wait until me an absolute joy to talk to you. Thank you so much. Thank you guys for having on such a huge fan of the show. You give me great joy I'm going to go back to took in my chicken. All right. Go do it. Just a minute just when you thought it was safe to go back into lyrics on triple eight wig way to join us on the air. We'll be back in a minute with more way way down Zombie for men. 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Jessi Klein Peter Guard was at here again. Is your host celebrating two days without a work from home injury repeaters, seagull, thank you bill in just a minute. Bill's favorite Egypt Pharaoh. Well. That's Rameez. It's our. Our listener limerick challenge. If you'd like to play, give us a call at one triple eight. Wait wait. That's one, eight, eight, eight, nine, two, four, eight, nine, two, four, right now panel some more questions for you from the week's news a Jesse. It's not just weddings that are moving online zoom is becoming a popular place to conduct. What other religious ceremony It's not no, although you have the right religion. Oh No this is mine. This is my pieces. People I'LL A. Yes. Gone Brisk. Talk about how the other panelists will all? The Brits of course is the traditional Jewish ceremony performed by a special rabbi on a baby boy's babyhood and one of the most important Jewish traditions associated with the Bris is that attendees never actually have to watch it? As, one recent attended virtual brisk. Put it quote. I'm usually in the back bagels, but in a zoom brisk the Cameron, the action role centered on the very act unquote especially. If you forget to switch off speaker view, there should same you my audio, please. There's just not be like. The camera should not be pointed down. It should be at the moment that I don't think you wanted the morals face, either, because what if all of a sudden he starts doing nothing with what's the first thing to do? Or he takes out a book in his leg starts reading and directions. He wrote down on his hand. There aren't there aren't enough password to protect. That event if you attend a brisk virtually on Zoom, make sure you put it in gallery view because you don't WanNa miss the moment where you hear the snip and all the men in the audience Winston Cross their legs simaltaneously. Here the snip your at bad breast. chainsaw. And then a quiet wolves. Then you know it's gone very polite going through butter. We should change the expression. How how did it go? We'll cut knife through a forest skin. Peter Peter Peter this week. ABC News tweeted a video of huge stingrays mere feet away from unaware swimmers, but viewers were more concerned about something else in that video what? There was lifeguard. There was a shark behind the stingray. A there was There was a concert going on I'll. I'll give you a hint. That lotion came in negative SPF numbers. How Sunburn and everybody was how? One guy was. ABC tweeted an advisory to Florida beachgoers with a picture of a school of stingrays near a beach and people freaked out because of the fire engine red man standing in the water nearby. Presumably, the man was severely sunburned or just really mad. He didn't get a callback for the mascot job at red lobster. Super. Sunburn Guy Yeah. I remember I. Did see that Guy Stingrays, and then I saw that guy and I was like. Get it together read. My God I'm looking at it right now. He looks like a human beat. Radio active. He looks he's the color of Clifford. The big red dog with integral in filters. Is Not real. Do you think on the stingray international? The stingrays are watching a video of how close they came to this. I'm not read freak. God Close Call Yeah. Larry almost eight that Weirdo and yeah, talking about the stingray Internet and it's real. Could see creatures. Don't do that. Vance lose like black. Twitter and gates stops. Coming up, it's lightning. Fill in the blank hits the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air caller, leave a message at one triple eight. WAIT WAIT! That's one, eight, eight, eight, nine, two, four, eight, nine, two, four, or click to contact us link on our website. Wait wait, dot, NPR, Dot Org. If you want more weight in your week, well, then check out the wait. Wait quiz for your smart speaker. It's out every Wednesday in. It's your chance to join the other fourteen percent of men who have already fallen in love with their Alexa, and with bill and me. Higher on wait wait. Don't tell me Aloe. Hi! WHO's this? Is Jen Bliss I live in Litchfield? Maine but I'm in Jamaica plain right now. What do you do what you do in Lichfield when your home in Lichfield I mostly create community festivals and this year we're trying to plan a light streaming event where the locals can come and participate, even though they they can't actually be there. So it's it's hard to eat enormous. Turkey legs over zoom meeting. I'm hoping that they bring their own. Well welcome to the show, Jen. Now Bill Curtis of course is going to read you three news related limericks with the last word or phrase, missing from each of you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly to the lyrics will be a winner. You ready to play. I'm ready. Okay here. Is your first limerick. The waters I in our dark, but from Lucca I. Get a nice spark. That's why I won't say no to one hot volcano. It's home to this hammerhead. Shark, yes. New National Geographic special focuses on an amazing discovery volcano sharks, this sound amazing like vicious killers, brief fire, and swim and molten lava, and they're SORTA like that. Scientists sent robotic cameras to examine an active underwater volcano in the Pacific Ocean and were amazed to find giant sharks swimming through the acidic lava filled water, which means I'm afraid to say. It's no longer safe to go swimming in an active volcano. Handle another thing. But like the volcano shark makes me think that can only be. Can go to like other places. That doesn't have to live my guesses. habituated itself to that environment. If we're to believe, it would be in trouble I guess I don't know where they're not coming to a story It's too nice there. Baby can't get me. Although it will be a great. It would be a great pixar movie to see like. He was Volcano Charlotte. Regular, water All right very good. Here is your next Limerick Jen. As the doctor, my hands I still. Because water, and so have some power, but as each day goes by. My bobby stays dry. I've given up taking A. Shower yes backing up years of research from the nation's stinky teenage sons. A doctor in New York says showering is bad Dr. James Hamlyn hasn't showered with soap and five years. It's the kind of background Info you want in the guy about to do your annual exam. He stopped using body products altogether claims that thusly he was able to recreate the natural buyum of his skin surface. Finally answering the question skin-care, no skin don't care. Does Dr James Hammond also sleep on a Futon. Right or a lofted bed her. Painting a picture to me to see a world hacky sack champion. White man with dreadlocks. Grams feeling away dreads. Would you test? Would you trust the White Drag Dr? Whiteness doctor Dr Hamlin's written a book about the science of going on natural, which was necessary, because only the doctor and author Combo could even out the never showers part of your profile and tinder. Date with a guy, and he starts explaining how he's recreated the biomass literally. I'm in an Uber. Imagery, the words recreated and bio about I mean even if he took just baking soda right fine the heating using those. Toothpaste Shampoo yet. He's really design. Tom's of Maine Nightmare. He's using that crystal. You know he's using that. I was just thinking that that would be the kind of thing I the odorant. And, Apparently Crystal Meth no showered at six years had slept in six. Jan You're doing really great. Here is your last limerick cooper phase new thankless tasks, who's under their editors ask. One half of a phase is just too hard to place. We all suffer because stars now wear knack. Right right now, celebrities are just like us. They're stuck at home. They're super boring and they're wearing masks when they go out. That means tough times for the Paparazzi. Who have a hard time? Selling candid photos of is that Jona. Hillary Matt Damon. If the Paparazzi want to get back out there. They should consider rebranding of its sure. Shalit's the Ronin. A mass going to the grocery store doesn't interest the Daily Mail but shall these thrown and face Thong on her way to feed some buzz. Saw I was reading a story about how like banks kind of freaked out, because everybody is where everybody's walking and ask Papa, it's either. They should just take pictures of anybody it'd be like. The tro whatever? Bill had agenda in. Our, quiz. Superb, she got three straight. Good going. Congratulations. Thank you so much for plan. Thank you. Support for this podcast and the following message come from K. Buxbaum in support of the David Gilkey and Zaba Ulitsa Mata Memorial. Fund established to strengthen NPR's commitment to training and protecting journalists in high risk environments. Now it's time to move onto our final game. Lightning fill in the blank. Each of our players will have sixty seconds in which dancer many fill in the blank questions as they can each correct answer now worth two. Two points they'll give us a scores say has to, Peter has to and Jesse has four. All right dual say and Peter are tied so dul say you're new here. We'll let you go. I fill in the blank while delaying a permanent name change the Washington. Football team announced they would be temporarily known as blank Washington football team. That's exactly right this week. California surpass blank. Is the state with the most Cova cases. Exactly to solve a dispute over their property line man in Maine blanked his neighbor's garage. Cut In half exactly right on Thursday. Electric carmaker blank showed a profit for its fourth straight quarter. SLA Yes on Thursday blank throughout the first pitch to open the twenty twenty baseball season. Doctor FAUCI AND IT WAS A. Terrible pitch this week. A student at the University of Georgia was given a second chance to take an online exam after a falling blank, and did her first one early a filing ceiling tile. A falling meatball from the sub she was eating that landed on her keyboard. She students says she had barely started her ECON examine. The meatball rolled out from the sub. She was eating, landed on her keyboard and submitted the test early in a panic. She wrote an email to her professor. She explained that the thirty nine percent score in the exam was the fault of the meatball. The professor agreed to give her a second chance and told the meatball he'd see it in summer school. Wise Bill. How did doing our quiz? I think she did really well very very well. She got four right for eight more points, and she now has ten. You're up next. On Tuesday president trump signed a memorandum aimed at excluding undocumented immigrants from the blank from the. United States of America. No the census this time on Thursday, a judge ordered that former trump lawyer blank be released back into home confinement. How Michael Cullen yes, this week. The House voted to remove confederate blanks from the capital. statues right on Tuesday vice. President Biden unveiled a seven hundred and seventy five billion dollar plan to provide a blank programs for parents and the elderly. Health programs or caregiving, yes, we. Man's attempt to fake his own death to avoid going to court was foiled when he blanked. Actually died, no made a TYPO. His forged death certificate after his campaign rally on Sunday Kim Kardashian released a statement addressing her husband Blanks Mental Health Kanye right on Thursday AMC. The world's largest blank Jane. Once again delayed their reopening. movie theaters right this week. A photo of a couple wearing masks on an airplane went viral because they were also blanking joining the Mile High Clo. Yes, they were making out in the photo. The woman is leaning into the man's seat, and he has his arms around her waist, while his masked faces pressed really hard against hers, other passengers were shocked and confused by the site, but it's pretty clear. The couple just wanted to join the Mile Y club bill. How did Peter Doing our quiz have very well. He got six right for twelve more points. He now has let me calculate. He has fourteen and the lead very well done on. How many men does Jesse need to win? Well, she needs five. The tight end six to win out dries alright Jesse. This is for the game. Fill in the blank on Wednesday. The White House agreed to a two billion dollar deal with Pfizer for one hundred million doses of an eventual blank. Right for Co that according to the Treasury Secretary Payroll tax cuts won't be a part of the next blank stimulus package yeah, Corona Virus Relief Bill this week. The mayor of Washington DC announced that blanks will be mandatory went outside your home. Right according to a new study, only eight percent of Americans agree that blank should reopen in the fall. School right plans to open a floating hotel in Wales or now on hold after blank volcano sharks after the hotel sank on Tuesday, twitter said that it had banned. Seven thousand accounts associated a blank conspiracy theory. Cunanan yes, on Wednesday photographers captured a picture of blank, being struck by four bolts of lightning statue. Liberty yes, has a message after accidentally damaging sculpture family in China regretted their decision to let their kids play a game of tag in blank. Museum yes, the civically the Shanghai Museum of Glass. That's right last week. Someone in Shanghai said lockdown. His left the kids with so much energy to burn off. I know. Let's go to the Glass Museum. And it went about as well as you could expect to. Of. The kids bumped into a stand holding a sixty thousand dollar replica Cinderella's castle causing it to fall to the ground. Museum has yet to share the extent of the damage, but is inviting guests that come view their new exhibit Cinderella. Favourite. Glass Shards Bill did Jesse. Do well enough to win. Jesse has a big score seven ride for fourteen more points. She now has eighteen points. She wins she. is working. In just a minute, we're going to ask our panelists to predict what will be the five words. They have to memorize on their cognitive tests, but first. Let me tell you that wait wait. Don't tell me is a production of NPR WBZ CHICAGO. Association with increasingly urgent Haircut Productions Doug Berman Benevolent Overload Philip. Limericks are public address announcer. Is Paul Freedom in our house manager? 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"From npr wbz chicago. This is wait. Wait don't tell me the. Npr news quiz five four three two one. Now it's the new year's bill drop. I'm bill curtis and here's your host. Who personally provided the new born baby to play the new year. Peter say thank you bill. It is the first weekend of a new year and already. It's so much better than last year. For example. we don't have to worry anymore. About how terrible twenty twenty was going to be a feel like a great way to has been lifted from my calendar but the year passed wasn't all bad. We're going to spend the next hour proving it with some great segments and interviews from the past year. I up in. May we spoke to actor and singer christine borowski who starred in the mommy. A movie says well as the tv series. The good fights. The lockdown was just a few months old then so we asked her who she'd been stuck inside with. Doc is an interesting word. I'm blissfully with my But also stuck blissfully stuck with three little grandsons. My daughter and son-in-law this is like a grandma's dream isn't it to have your grandchildren with you and they're not allowed to leave. It's true i can. I can get my imprint on them and to convince them you know of of things like listening to block a before bed is the most wonderful thing you could possibly do or you know. Just you know planting seeds and today. We baked cake. I think i amy. I think i read once that you never had a television in your home. Is that right yes. We took the television set out when they were little. Because it became clear that that We couldn't monitor what they were watching. So we just I remember taking the television out physically. It was that small. And i and i put it in a barn across the road and covered it with a blank. Wait a minute. Your tv career started in the eighties right or so. Weren't your kids weren't even allowed to win tonight. Down i No they didn't watch me. No no i think didn't need to watch me I've played been dictated alcoholic divorce. Say so it's not some kids. Do christine this joel. I'm a gay person speaking to you. And as a young child. I did watch you on television in that show and i did idolize you from a very young age for that. So we'd like to say that. I think you robbed your children of something very special. Might not letting them watch. It informative age shaped college. Education does not make up for that. I wanted to be their mom. You know. I just want to be a wife and mom and not larger than life. I mean that's i wild. Because i also wanted you to be my mom of. You're speaking of your country house. We there's this rumor that even got to us and we don't know anything that your lake house is famous for. Its skinny dipping. is that true. Oh gosh this story will not die. It's not died so why let's just revive yet again. I ve very famous actors on my doc late at night Either skinny dipping. Or just you know. I have a nice fire pit that we have and we liked fires and sing under the stars and i've had very famous. I'm not going to be wait a minute. Greatest actors in the world. I can but i'm not going to. I'm not going to accused of nudity. So christine is this. Why is this. Is this a clue as to why you and meryl streep and audra mcdonald. Where all in bathrobes at the sondheim chevy thank you for bringing that up. Amy meryl streep was one of the people on my doc. I know she was fully clothed when she has visited. I will say that. Wait a minute we should just remind everybody that there was this wonderful online tribute to stephen sondheim last weekend and i think we can all agree. The highlight of really remarkable. Evening of performing. Was you along with meryl streep and audra mcdonald doing a trio version of the great the ladies who lunch from company and as amy pointed out. You all did it at home in your bathrobes sitting at the very desk where i recorded. My section of the music. And i could only record recorded late at night. When my little grandson's were sleeping but that requires some full out belting was about to say i just a little grandchild getting up and coming grandma would you stop belting. I'm trying to sleep well this is. I'm not kidding. This is what it sounded like. Let me try and do there is not to mow coasting drink to that. It's scripted that it's a rage. It's a primal alcoholic raged screen. That's what you have to produce so imagine me in front of my cell phones or not to wake up my lovely grandchildren. Who could have been traumatized. Hearing grandma had some sort of you know quarantine meltdown. That was literally gay. Make a wish christine. Now christine baranowski. It is a pleasure to talk to you. And since i'm a huge fan of the show. This is such a funny well. Let's see how you feel after this use star in the good fight so we've asked you here to play a game. We're calling the good sprite. That's right we're going to ask you three questions about the good sprite. That is seven up. Answer two of them correctly and you win our prize for one of our listeners. The voice of anyone. They may choose for their voicemail. Bill who is christine baranowski for jared ready of asheville north carolina. All right you ready to do this. A good right Yes i did warn you that it would be stupid. I'm so here we go. Here's your first question. Seven ups popularity is probably in part thanks to its original name. What was seven up first marketed as when it was introduced to the market way back. When was it a bib label. Lithium lemon lime soda be carbonated citrus. Vim restorer or see. Crack they all. Sound utterly ludicrous. Cracked crab always choice games in life. Go with crack but no the answer was lithium lemon lime soda. By biblical liquidated liberal liffey aided in that referred to its key ingredient. back them which is lithium. That's the same medicine they give to purple bipolar disorder. Good good good for you all right. You still tumor chances. Here's your next question. Seven up has many popular varieties like cherry seven up but not all. The new varieties made it a chocolate. Seven up be seven up with old bay seasoning for c. Seven up upside down instead of lemon lime flavor. It was lime lemon flavor. Oh yuppie sat didn't realize it would be this stupid to reform the you're gonna go see that's right. They tried selling seven upside down. Instead of lemon lime was lime lemon and who knows what the differences all right. Here's your last question You get this you win in the nineteen fifties seven up ad campaign recommended. That drinkers of the soda. Do what was it. A sign of quote loyalty oath to seven up rather than communist vodka bead dip cigarettes in it for that quote lemon lime tobacco flavor. We're seeing mix it with milk and give it to infants. What give me a again. I'll give you a sign of quote loyalty oath to seven up rather than communist vodka. Alcoa chat another vodka stinger another. This could be another vodka stinger. Noma fainting answer was was see. Mix it with milk and give it to infants variously. I know in the words of the ad campaign. Seven up is so pure so wholesome you can even give it to babies and feel good about bill. How did how did christine parents ski. Do on our quiz. Well technically christine uncut one right. But you've played it so well that we're gonna make you a winner in this game christie. Have another guy. I think we should give her a point just for the singing. Just the first thing christine. Thank you so much playing. It is so delightful to talk to you. Christine baranowski is an award-winning actor and performer. She is the star of the good fight streaming now on cbs. All access christine bransky. What an absolute joy to talk to you. Thank you so much. It was so much fun. Thank you for having me guys. Thank you so much. Thank you christine. Bye-bye here's a moment. We loved with our own pod of panelists tom. This week disneyworld announced that they had hired additional staff to help their maskless guests by doing what. Throw them out. No i'll give you hint. You know it's just using a little disney magic and a little photoshop. Oh my god. They're gonna photoshop mass on the exactly right so people think everybody. Disneyworld has mass on precisely right People don't have to be embarrassed about showing their right photos during the pandemic because they had masks digitally added to their faces in those photos. You by the end of rollercoasters. No i mean this is great. So if you didn't wear a mask on your disney visit don't worry disney is now photo shopping masks onto your picture so you can have it displayed at your funeral and convince people. It wasn't your fault. We'll probably gonna be easier to wear the mask you know. It's it's just not that hard now. I should say once the stories got around disney announced. They will no longer be digitally adding masks to photographs of their safe. You get sick at the park. Phil just cryogenically freeze you until there's enough vaccine to go around and finally we didn't want to start the year without a helpful public service pop song from bill. Curtis it's all about the man of mass. No trouble all out. The mass of the mass. No troubled you wear it then. They know sneezed coughed. Knows spray. A simple little way to keep the germs at bay. It's all about the mass about the man no trouble trouble when we come back going to extremes to manage an extreme situation and we're joined by a real life master of disguise at least i think we were. We'll be back in a minute with more. Wait wait don't tell me from. Npr support for npr comes from newman's own valuation working to nourish the common good by donating all profits from newman's own food products to charitable organizations that seek to make the world a better place. More information is available at newman's own foundation dot org at planet money we are also grappling with. What's going on in the world. We just don't know and and you're still going to have to decide. So we call up. Economists like emily oster. It's like we're fighting the pandemic by having a bake sale or something. I'll do respect to bake sale. Listen and subscribe to planet money from npr from npr and wbz chicago. This is wait. Wait don't tell me the npr news quiz. I'm bill curtis and here's your host to thinks this might be the year. His hair grows back peter. Say thank you bill. So we're doing our best to salvage the reputation of the past year by sharing some of the best moments from it all of which happened on our show rather than in the real world which let's face it needed work. We spent most of the year dealing with the pandemic and some people resorting to extreme measures as we discussed in this game of bluff the listener with peter. Gross jessi klein dueled sake. Sloan wait tell me. Hey camping from alabama kathy from where hoover alabama hoover alabama and. I can't say. I know alabama well but whereas hoover it's where it's supposed to be say a little north Four fifty nine runs right past all right the next time. I'm over fifty nine. I will absolutely look direction. Well welcome to the show kathy. You're going to play the game in which you have to tell truth from fiction bill. What is kathy's topic re open. Sesame is everywhere are reopening for five minutes until after close again. Our panelists though are going to tell you about a business that figured out a new way to be safe in the age of covid. Who's telling the truth you'll in the weight waiter of your choice in your voice mail. Ready to play. Oh yeah well then. Let's do it first. Let's hear from dual say sloan ms cathy. Hat your northeast. What mobile tuscaloosa birmingham. Well if you come up mobile pretty much stay straight. You'd be right there. I'm from georgia to alabama all the time. So that's why. I was like yeah you you go to gulf shores and stuff like that. Yes ma'am i go down a dolphin island. Oh how wonderful. Not family loves salfan allen and we just straight down Sixty five and the mobile and then right over there no your state highways. I am impressed. I'm from new york. I don't know any where that you guys were talking about. Don't you wish you did though. Didn't you didn't listen to them talk. I happened to mobile. that's beautiful. Oh that gamete got telling you telling now. So germ access partnered with oregon to create a spray mist sanitizing system for retail stores and restaurants that disinfects customers as walk in. Geremek's is the leader. Sanitizer in oregon is an expert at sprang unwanted. Pests are current unwanted pest is coded nineteen like the water mr in the produce section of a grocery store customers will be sprayed with the five antibacterial miss for twenty seconds the same amount of time. We should washing hands. Unfortunately there have been a few hiccups in this. Well-meaning plan while testing the new system at a cvs. Some customers complained of the miss ruining their clothes hair or makeup and left him dripping. Wet one customer was quoted as saying this is ridiculous. I came in for allergy medicine not indoor slip and slide but it did make my shopping trip faster though i was able to pick up some items as i slid through the aisles. Cvs spraying down their customers with disinfectant before they're allowed to come in making them somewhat slippery. Your next story of a safety solution comes from peter. Gross the dunkin donuts and clinton connecticut has been opened for drive thru service ever since the pandemic struck in march but when the state move to phase three of reopening this week the store was finally allowed to have customers. Come inside. We were really excited to see some of our regulars face to face against it store manager. Lisa kabul her franchises smaller than most dunkin's though and koba was worried about covert exposure in such a tight space so she asked for a little leeway from corporate and came up with a really intriguing idea. The six foot doughnuts which was introduced on monday is the perfect combination of edible food item and once in a century pandemic safety protocol. The six foot donut work. Well if you've ever been inside of an inner tube than you know what it's like not to just order but also wear six donut upon entering the store you given your choice of glazed chocolate vanilla or pink icing with sprinkles customers simply slip the six foot donut over their head until they're comfortably encased in the six foot in diameter forty five thousand calorie twenty five pound. Don't outfitted with suspenders to help. Keep it at waist level. You can either start eating your way out of the doughnut in the store or take it home with you and enjoy the equivalent of seven hundred and fifty donuts at your leisure so far. Cobo is thrilled with how it's working out. People have really been enjoying coming back into the store strapping on a doughnut and bouncing up against other customers like they're in bumper cars. The cdc is proclaimed the six foot doughnuts ninety eight percent effective at preventing transmission of coronavirus but one hundred percent effective at giving you a new malady called type two diabetes a six foot donut served at a dunkin donuts. The people put around their waste to make sure they keep safe distance from the other customers. Your last story of a protective measure comes from jesse klein speed with which the pandemic has changed. Every aspect of our lives has been stunning but at one pub in england. Changes are quite literally shocking. In an effort to enforce social distancing among a boozy crowd one. Tavern in cornwall has installed an electric fence inside his bar to keep a knee. Abbreviated clients at bay. Johnny mcfadden owner of the star in tried several different tactics before going with the fence. But apparently things like ropes floor stickers and the fear of covert itself where no man for customers consuming one pint too many so finally inspired by the electric fences commonly used to keep sheep together in his rural farming town. He plugged in and apparently the threat of electrichouston has worked fairly well. Says mcfadden quote people are like sheep she keep away people keep away. Some might be concerned that a bar owner whose installed a live electric fence and his establishment his opening himself up for many lawsuit but as mcfadden sees it quote as long as there's a warning sign on an electric fence and you are warned about it. It's totally legal mcfadden. Maybe no lawyer. But he's got a doctors concern for the health of his customers and cheers to that. All right kathy somewhere there is a business that is opening up with one of these concessions to safety in the age of covid. Is it from dual. Say a cvs. That started spraying down customers with disinfectant before they come in the door from peter grouse dunkin donuts selling special six foot that you actually put around your ways to make sure you keep distance or from jesse a pub in england that has installed an electric fence to make sure that nobody gets too close. Which of these is the real story. I'm really think that the story. That sounds plausible. Is the bar all right. Kathy your choice then. Is jesse story of the bar with the electric fence while we spoke to the innovator who came up with new safety precaution as long as there's a warning sign on electric fence. It's totally legal. And the fear factor. It works in that accent. It sounds true. That was johnny mcfadden landlord of the star in the bar the electric fence. Congratulations kathy you got it right year into point for jesse you've won our prize of of your choice in your voice mail. You did it related. I love it. thank you so much cathy. Thanks for playing and stay safe. So what are the most interesting people. We spoke to this year with somebody. We had never heard of before which was quite intentional. On her part jonah mendez worked in the cia for decades rising to become their first-ever master of disguise. Peter ask her if that was a real job title. People are amazed at that title. Yeah we had quite an effort underway in the field of disguise and and there's a very famous story just to sort of start right off with your level of expertise that you went in to the oval office with the first president bush disguised as somebody else and he couldn't tell yes. Yes it was worried. A full face mask can with hair. I looked great. You know he had been she cia. I remember that so he kind of knew where the where the level of expertise was. This mass guy was showing him was just notching it up about four levels. I mean it was. It was a huge leap in technology. And i told him that i was gonna showing the latest disguise stuff that we had. He's looking like where's your stuff. And i said i'm i'm wearing it but i'm going to take it off and show it to you and he said oh don't don't take it off. He got up and he came and he looked he walked around. He said okay. So i i did that. Tom cruise feel which should be called the shawn mendez fuel. Because i was looking ahead of tom cruise on and i'm holding this thing up in the air and the white house photographer took a picture of it. Wow so we have this moment captured in in all time. It took me ten years before they decided to send it to me. Really and they airbrushed the mask out of my hands. What what in my library you know in the wall where you put all your good enough. I've got a picture of myself sitting in front of the desk of the president of the united states with my finger in it. Looks like i'm lecturing him. So you got involved in the way back in the sixties right because you were dating somebody who are married to somebody who turned out to be in the cia. Is that right yeah. I left wichita. Kansas to go be in a friend's wedding in germany and i basically never went home right. I stayed at got a job at chase manhattan bank. I couldn't i. I've never worked in a bank. I didn't speak german. do math. What was a four thing. Oh and i didn't have a work permit and they hired me. I'm never turning down a wedding again if that's how it can turn out when they found out that you got a job in germany with no banking experience. Not speaking german completely unqualified. Was that when they realize you would be an excellent spy. Anything ever asked me that question so you got into the cia. Did they immediately send you out on spy. Work like to use maria's areas and the things that we all seem in the movies the secretary director of this office called ot s. It was the cue or this this before you've compared what you did to the cube ranch and the james bond movies. We made the the gear the equipment the toys that the case officers like the like the laser eyeglasses the turn into submarines that kind of thing if you if you brought us a good idea and it was feasible and you really needed it we would probably make you one but but but we we were a little different than the movies because q would always had the weapons off james lose them he would break them he would you know sorry i just imagined you're watching james bond movies and getting upset about what james bond was doing with his tools like damage james back in the case that's right i wanna know how are you allowed to tell us all this. This seems like the kind of information that we're only supposed to speculate about but never actually know these things happen. They must really know the npr audience threat. We've written enough books. Everything in those books is approved. What's your favorite disguise. You ever did that. You can tell us about well. It would be one that my husband did. I helped him with it before you go on. I should clarify for the audience that your husband assume you're talking about is tony mendez. No longer with us who was among many other things. The character played by ben affleck in the movie argo. That was him. That was your husband. He's the man who told ben affleck that he wasn't good looking enough to play him about time. Someone took ben affleck down. Please proceed with the story so tony was showing our office director. This new operational technique. We're gonna use it. Moscow tony's at the end of hall inability needed abused. And he's wearing a raincoat got agreed. Case where suit starts walking down the hall yet forty five steps and forty five seconds to cover this ground and in that forty five steps he turned from amena business suit with the briefcase to an old lady and a pink's thing with shawl gray hair pushing a grocery cart. Wait minute we get this lady out of here. She's a witch. she's a wig. I did. I did read. Were you said that you could make a man to a woman or woman to a man but something about the character of the cia agents. The men didn't wanna have to become women now. They didn't neither did. Us marines really. How often did you have to ask marine to become a woman now and then wade professional or just a private interest of yours. I wanna know if your child won the halloween contest. Every year always really. So are you at all serious and if so can you tell us about some of the disguises or costumes that you helped her child create. Oh i remember one from cats Where we can just do. We could do a great cat face. I remember one. That was knockin Attached to each other and then we discovered that no one could go to the bathroom all night because the whole patch and ago. Wait a minute you child and his friend he was a son were all pumpkins. Attached to each other's they'll walk around as a group. Actually that was tony me. You'd think to experience. Cia agents would realize that if they're attached by the stem difficulty we got into that stuff. Now it's fun well jonah. It is a pleasure to have you here but we haven't fact invited you here to play a game. We're calling disguise. Sure but how about those guys. We were thinking you're an expert in disguise. But what do you know about those guys meaning. Of course the mafia answer two to three questions correctly and win a prize for one of our listeners. The voice of their choice on their voicemail. Bill who is john mendez playing for jillian edwards of orlando florida. All right you ready to do this and all right. Here's the first question john. A gotti is the son of john. J gotti the famous mafia don but his friends and relatives realized that junior was not cut out for the family business when he said what a quote wait. You mean dad's not in the sanitation industry. Be quote let's make him an offer see if he refuses. And if so consider are other options for c. quote i love cracker barrel country fried steak much about the mafia. I'm going with see you're right. Turns out that the young mr guy phone lubbock cracker barrel when he was visiting his father in prison in illinois and his various family members said yes. No all right. That's one correct second question. Mafia guys are known of course for their colorful nicknames. Why was salvatore vitale. An underboss in the banana family new york known as good looking sal. Was it a before. He became a made man he modeled menswear and the jc penney catalog be. He wants foiled an attempt on his life by spotting his would be assassin behind him in a mirror where see because he insisted that his underlings call him. Good-looking sal no idea so guess you're gonna get a no. He was not a model before he became a made man. He just insisted that everybody call him. Good-looking sal. Apparently you didn't say no. To looking sal. All right last question if you get this win at all prosecutors believe that the dumbest mobsters ever with the two sides involved in two thousand eleven crooked deal in new york in which what happened a one side sold cocaine which was really crushed up sheet rock to the other gang for money which turned out to be counterfeit be one gang sold a building. They didn't own another gang which tried to tow it away or see. A gunfight broke out when to gangsters showed up at a party. Wearing exactly the same pinstriped. Suit also good again. You're to go with again you're right. That's what happened. How trying to sell the cocaine was co cain. They got money that wasn't really money. Twenty-three men ended up in jail. When all the dust the sheet rock dust settled. Well that explains one of my saturday nights a couple of weeks ago. Bill how to jonah. Do doing our quiz got out of three. That means she is a died. In the wool winner jonah mendez is the former chief of disguised for the a and the co author of the moscow rules. More information can be found at the master of disguise dot com jonah. Or whoever you may really be thank you so much for being on our is a pleasure to talk to you. This was as fun as i thought it would be very good. Thank you bye-bye when we come back actor who plays starring roles which you never see his face and a woman who travels to places. You've never been we'll be back in a minute with more. Wait wait don't tell me from. Npr support for this podcast and the following message come from the walton family foundation where opportunity takes root more information is available at walton family foundation dot org from npr and wbz chicago. This is wait. Wait don't tell me the npr news quiz. i'm bill curtis and here's your host. A man who believes twenty twenty. One is the aghia he starts wearing. Bow ties peter singled. Thank you bill so it really was a great year really at least in one hour weekly increments or to be strictly the accurate in certain parts of one our weekly increments usually when we got to talk to somebody. Cool for example. Doug jones is one of the most successful actors in hollywood. But you'd never recognize him. That's because he plays most of his roles buried under twenty pounds of latex. he's played monsters and creatures in movies. Like hell boy in the shape of water and alien crew member in the latest star trek series. So i asked him if he grew up. Dreaming of becoming the go-to guy for anything with claus fins. No actually i started as a mime back at ball state university in indiana and be six three one hundred and forty pounds and having a mind background. It's like oh the creature effects. People were just all over me. The minute i got to. La alright we skipped a bit. Why out of all things did you decide to become a mime. Who knowing chooses that do they just as you i. I assume people were just born into like the mind. Cast and the right choice and my dorm at i lived in it at ball state. I was a freshman in a senior is. Who ran the mime troupe. The trip was called mime over matter. Get it i got. And so he he saw how i talk with my hands and how lanky i was. He said you know he should come see one of our shows and think about auditioning for our troop and that's how the mind thing started with me. Wow and a drug dealer like get on the straight the fray the first the first fake elevator is free Were you that kind of mine. Were you out on the on the on the sidewalk doing like. Oh there's a wind. There's a wall that my first job out of college was working at kings island a theme park and in cincinnati ohio a cincinnati ohio. This kind of on the cusp of indiana kentucky. And so there's not a whole lot of people in that area that new of mine was So it's like i'll and look at the clown look at the clown why talking. I don't know who said i know. This is a very weird question to ask you. But can you think of like the weirdest thing you were asked to play. And i say this to somebody who's literally played the angel of death. I think a giant cockroach she bug thing. I did a movie. A horrible movie called bug-buster. I had a huge fight scene with randy quaid. I was a giant insect that was guarding my pile of eggs and he was coming to kill us So we had a big knock down drag out in a cave. And he came in there with weapons bolts. Didn't kill me either. Pulled out like a flame thrower i don't burn. And he pulled out a co two gun. I don't freeze so. He threw all of his weapons down said. Come on man you would meet mano a mano a. That's when it got weird. We're we have a knock down drag out choreographed fight around this cave bouncing off walls and rolling around on the ground and half. I got up from that. And i i asked my handler. I said can you go check on randy. I didn't see him get up after that. Fight a across the cave. I hear i hear dot buddy. Can you hear me randy quaid. Y- yeah he said do what you do on. It's great we can go again. I'm find you're doing great. The next voice. That i heard was a young. Pa production assistant going on. Can i get some ice over here. I can't stop the bleeding. Be remembered as as that young lanky fella who killed randy quaid as a bug as the bug in costume and in in the shape of water. You had a particular challenge because not only. Did you have to be other worldly and alien but you had to be attractive. Sexy yes so. How did you work that out. Doug well i will say this. These sculpted me a sexy ass body. Did i my skinny bones slip into this beautiful rubber muscle suit with a with a fine area. I beat it was. It was in fact. Every time. I step i stood up. Walked away from our set chairs. Where we're you know we're arrests between takes If i was in with octavia spencer. Sit there and watch me walk away and just say one thing what that's when you know. They sculpt didn't with a latex. lean out and go thank you. That was exactly right. Well doug jones. It is an absolute joy to talk to you as much fun as it has been to watch you do stuff which is really saying something. You're very kind. Thank you but we have asked you here to play a game that this time we're calling. Hey check out. The shape of this water. We discussed were the lead in the shape of water. So we thought we'd ask you about actual shaped water. That is ice and snow. Sculptures answer two to three questions correctly a winner prize for one of our listeners. The voice of their choice on their voicemail. Bill who is doug jones. Playing for lane owens of los angeles california all right you ready to do this no lane. I'm rooting for both of us here. All right here we go use your first question now. One of the most notorious ice sculptures ever seen was the one commissioned by dennis kozlowski the ceo who served eight years in prison for fraud and embezzlement because he spent company money on things like which these a an ice sculpture of himself which he kept in a three hundred thousand dollars. Clear glass freezer for display be. A full-scale is skeptical of michelangelo's david which dispensed cold water party guests through. Well his natural spigot or see a thousand tiny handmade obtrusive invidual bird species made for his evening cocktail with the The because that sounds more narcissistic. That's a very good idea. But what he really did. was he. commissioned the ice sculpture of michelangelo's david which dispensed which dispense vodka through his little. I have no idea what the question is. Endure photographs at this. But i don't know how guests what the head to do to the david to get it to dispense to leave you. Ask all right. Here's your next question. The uk's channel four came under some criticism for its creative use of an ice sculpture. Why a did not appreciate being represented by sculpture titled ice queen bee. After boris johnson refused to participate in a debate on climate change. They had a melting ice sculpture. Take his place or see to counter program theresa. may's speech in the bbc. They showed an ice sculptor of her for an hour with the caption. Which seems more human Can i go with a again. Because i do love Queen elizabeth and. I want to think of her as a nice clean. Either you can go with a again. I mean possible seems to be waiting. It seems to be to ask or it could be the answer. Be yes interesting. Though the melting ice sculpture of the planet did hold. Its own in many points of debate. All right last chance. If you get this you win it. A news reporter in california went viral when he knocked over the carving of the ice sculptor. He was interviewing on live. Tv at the state fair but there was another twist to the story. What was it a the reporter had faked the accident because he was bored of doing stupid human interest stories all the time be. He was carried away by rage when he realized the ice sculpture was of his ex or see. The ice sculptor was his childhood enemy and he had planned this vengeance for decades. Okay i'm gonna go with a one more time and this time it paid off done elaborate stories anymore. It worked now. He has his own news channel on youtube. Did bill how doug jones. During our quiz he loved as so much. Doug jones actor you can see him now as commander seru on star trek discovery season. Three streaming on cbs. All access now doug jones. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm wait wait. Don't tell me what a joy to talk to you. The joy has been mined. Thank you all so very much for having me. Bye bye support for this podcast and the following message come from the american jewish world service working together for more than thirty years to build a more just and equitable world. Learn more at age. Aws dot org. Finally there used to be a time when we would fantasize about traveling to other worlds or having superpowers these days. We just dream about being able to go outside. Kelly edwards is living the dream. She's an explorer scuba diver adventurer and host of mysterious islands on the travel channel. Peter esker if she had to give up travel during the pandemic. i actually have not. Because i'm also a pilot And so. I have not been stuck at home. Because i have capabilities of take myself right. Like to go with you to catalina. We'll take we'll take the plane we'll scuba dive. Near the arcade there come on actually learned. Ivan catalina. Because you're a diver to. I'm a diver as well. I am a bond girl. Laura croft 007 enrolling. So whatever you guys wanna do. Let's do it. How did you get interested in being basically an adventurer. Well i started taking road trips with my parents at a very very young age. And i when i started to look at the world in nat geo and travel channel on all this. I'm like oh. I should go to these places so there are a lot of us who just save up the money to get an economy class ticket. You decided you would actually learn to fly and fly yourself. Yes indeed and that came about. Because i saw one man in a small airplane landing at burbank airport between and south west and jet blue and i literally googled at the gate. One man. small aircraft in general aviation came up. I had no idea that you didn't have to be a military pilot to become a pilot. And so i came back and took a discovery flight from a groupon for one hundred bucks and got hooked and sick in the plane. Hooked and sit really because wait a minute. So the only time. I've ever flown myself in a small private plane general aviation. I got incredibly sick. And i said to myself well. That's the end of this for me. Never again and i've stuck to that but you the same thing happened to you and your reaction was like okay. Great when you've all cleaned up the vomit. I'm going to learn to fly. Let me tell you why. And i'm not crazy. Okay i just have to tell the truth. But i flew over my ex boyfriend's house and i snapped a picture from the air and i sent it to him and his reaction was priceless. He's like how did you get this picture. And where are you and i was like. Oh i just need to be able to do this whenever i feel like it. I thought you were going to say. I vomited out the window and then be. I love that you're pettiness. Drove you to learn how to fly an airplane girl. You're like a hashtag goals. I don't know if you were adventures. They've ever called upon survival skills. Do you have any survival skills. I do have my wilderness. First aid certification. I'm going go. Get my avalanche training in october. Beck in colorado. I've always ready for the apocalypse. I literally. I'm literally coming to move in with you coming to move in with you because you are lara croft. You really aren't you are in my avalanche training with stay. The hell away from avenue. I would worry about like being with you in the apocalypse. Because you'd be too good at it and it just be like lagging behind out of breath that i grabbed by that collar. We'd be out of there. I'll take whatever you went on. Anything goes wrong call kelly. She's going to load up the aircraft. She's going to have all the gear and we're going to survive. And i say that so. I'm like choose your friends riley. I'm one of those friends. Choose a i mean. It is humbling to know that you have all these skills for the apocalypse and in my case it'd be like well. Peter could moderate the discussion at the campfire. Tonight it's and mice killer. It'd be like i don't. I hope it doesn't come to this but probably i'm delicious. I'll hold my breath. I would i would say in the meeting of your new clan. Don't lead with that job. You're going around to find what everybody can contribute. Hi i'm josh delicious. Can you do the castaway thing tom. Hanks did and actually make a fire from like sticks if you needed to. I absolutely can. That's definitely one of the skills that you learn like. That's one oh one. Survival skills like fire is the most important. Come on peter. That's one on one. This is terrible josh. If you and i were maroon together. I wouldn't even be able to boil. You could use my reflection of my giant forehead to call down a plane. well kelly. It is an absolute delight to talk to you but we have actually asked you here today to play a game this time. We're calling welcome to staten island. So you've explored many exotic remote islands. But what do you know about pretty normal island right off the wild coast of eastern new jersey. Staten island answer two out of three questions about staten island. And you'll win our price for one of our listeners. The voice of anyone. They may choose from our show on their voicemail. Bill who is kelly edwards playing for lia. Ross love orlando florida. All right ready to go. Kelly ready freddy first question about staten island. One of the best reasons to visit. Staten island is no longer there every year. In the fall people used to rush to the island for the ritual annual construction of what a the world's longest urinal be the birdman huge wooden sculpture of a man flipping manhattan the bird or see giant bust of dolly parton and kenny rogers based on the myth that staten island is the island in the stream. Let's see 'cause you know lolly acquaintance and we're just gonna say yes you're going to. You're just gonna. Because i said dolly parton you're just gonna go. Yes dolly parton absolutely. I like i like that. Because you're right. She is the queen but the answer is the world's largest urine was a hundred feet long. It was built each year for the start of the new york city marathon but sadly no more now they with porta-pottys which are duller all right next question after months of receiving massive electricity bills in your mailbox. Staten island woman figured out the reason. Why a like all staten island residents. She left her christmas lights up until august be. The bills. were actually for the electricity pole. Outside her house or see con edison was paying tribute to the large italian population on. Staten island by tallying all bills in lire. I'm gonna go with. She left her christmas lights on two august. You see you can see it from the sky. I imagine you fly around. That's my house. No actually the answer. Sadly was be. The bills were for the electricity pole outside her house. They were actually addressed to poll as the woman said quote. You don't right to a if you're normal all right last question though. It's not often thought of as a fine dining destination. Visitors to staten island can enjoy food from which of these restaurants a the world's longest buffet built out of the previously mentioned world's longest journal be spin bon cinnabon slash cycling gym or c. n. o. Teke maria which only employs genuine italian grandmothers as cooks. Manigault go c. Your right in maria presumed is them coming out and ask you why you're not married yet. Oh man i got plenty of bill. How did kelly edwards quiz out of three now kelly. You'll be thinking about this on your next flight so we love having you here. That was a great roundabout answer was he was very positive. I think kelly. Edwards is an adventurer mountaineer. Piloting scuba diver. You can hear her. Every wednesday on her. New travel podcast. Let's go together kellyanne words. Thank you so much for being on our guys for having me so. That's it for our new year. Special whatever 2021 brings. We hope you'll spend at least part of it with us. We promise it won't get any worse at least during certain parts soup one our weekly increments wait wait. Don't tell me as a production of npr wbz chicago in association with urgent haircut. Productions doug berman benevolent overlord. 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Trump, "I Didn't Downplay Coronavirus"; Trump On Tape, "I Wanted To Always Play It Down"

Erin Burnett OutFront

47:22 min | 7 months ago

Trump, "I Didn't Downplay Coronavirus"; Trump On Tape, "I Wanted To Always Play It Down"

"This show is sponsored by facebook. FACEBOOK has taken steps to better secure their platforms. What's next their support of updated Internet regulations to set new standards for data portability privacy and elections learn more at about dot F. B. Dot com slash regulation. Next breaking news the president telling ABC News. He did not downplay the virus that he quote up played it. That is not true plus more breaking used conditions deteriorating quickly along the Gulf Coast Hurricane Sally. Now, just hours from making landfall tonight growing fears of devastating storm surge and new video. Tonight of the to La County Sheriff's deputies were ambushed are officials any closer to identifying the shooter must be Sheriff Out Front? It's go. Good evening I'm Erin Burnett out front this evening the breaking news president trump says, he never downplayed the threat of corona virus during a town hall with ABC's, and in fact, the inverse. Why would you downplay a pandemic? That is known to disproportionately harm low income families in minority communities. Well I didn't downplay it I actually in many ways. I, played it in terms of action. My accent was very strong. Nicholas. What I did was with China I put a ban on with Europe I put a ban on and we would have lost thousands of more people had I not put the ban on. So that was called. Not with the mouth but in actual fact. We did have very, very good job when we put that ban on whether you call the talent or luck. So we saved a lot of lives when we did that there were holes in the ban in the European bandon come for another month while they were Americans I, mean the holes in where if you have somebody in China, that's an American citizen we had to let them in. All right. There's a lot in there, but let's just start with this that he said he pleaded he never never downplayed it obviously not. I mean. Here is president trump's own words on this issue. Now, it's turning out. It's not just old people because today and yesterday. Some startling facts came out. It's not just old older. People, to plenty of young people well, I think Bob really to be honest with you. I want you tie wanted to I wanted to always play it down I still like playing it down. Yes because I don't want to create a panic. So he says he up played, you heard it from him that he downplayed it, and of course, we know that right I mean he did so repeatedly and he has criticized the scientists from the start and now CNN is learning the spokesman for the administration's coronavirus response on. Michael. Caputo maybe forced to go this because he was accusing scientists working on the pandemic quote sedition. In fact, claiming the CDC has formed a quote resistance unit that is trying to undermine the president during a deadly pandemic even warning of violence from left wing so-called hit squads related to this. So now this all. COMES OUT KAPITO admits to saying all these things apologizes to staff at the Department of Health and Human Services. But this may not be enough a source telling CNN Caputo is on thin ice is baseless conspiracy theories of course are dangerous. Now, the thing about this is he is now blaming stress and health issues for his comments but that that may be true in terms of his feelings. But what he said and those kinds of comments of sedition and and left-wing mobs that is reflective of the sentiments of his boss President trump right that's what president trump thinks he says and thinks so. It no surprise it comes from spokesperson. Trump's disdain for scientific facts on things. Including masks are partly why scientific magazine is endorsing Joe Biden It is the first time scientific. American has endorsed a politician in one, hundred, seventy, five years its entire history they have never done it and they're doing it now because of science. Trump's assault on science, and it is now taking a toll on America's reputation. Here's a poll according to Pew Research The world's view of America has plunged to pull thirteen nations found only fifteen percent saying the United States has handling the has ended pandemic well. That is lower than China. And not only across the people across the globe actually trust trump less than the leaders of China and Russia according to this poll to authoritarian leaders with regimes associated with things like poisoning rivals, murdering journalists, hiring crow virus facts, both of those leaders pull better. And yet the president united. States who were various polls believes the world envies his response. We are. An. Absolute leader. In every way, we are the envy of the world figure I look at his death and death is going up now. Thousand, day if you look at. going. Nuts daily death take a look at some of these charts I. Love To. We're going to look let's look and if you look at. Their start to go up again. Right here United States is lowest in D-. Numerous categories. Were lower than the world lo the lower than Europe. Of course, the US lags Asia and Europe, in fact, Bill Gates who called this the pandemic of a century on day one who has since donated more than one hundred, million dollars to find a vaccine tells stat news. Now that quote you know this has been a mismanaged situation every step of the way it's shocking. It's unbelievable. The fact that we would be among the worst in the world. That's what he said. The United States failure to stop the death toll. Now, putting these words from President trump in jeopardy. We're going to be respected again, we're not going to be a laughing stock like we have been. We have gone from being a laughing stock. We'll go to the exact opposite. We're no longer going to be a laughing-stock. China polls better. Kaitlan Collins is out front live at the White House Kaitlyn. You've been talking to your sources on this Caputo new news and developments there. What are you learning tonight? Yeah. So basically what we saw happen today was this pretty abruptly scheduled meeting where Caputo apologize to other. Staffers after he went on that rant on facebook on Sunday something of New York. Times first reported where he was basically saying that they believe that government scientists are actively working against the president he said committing sedition and also said that Joe Biden if he lost the election, he did not believe would concede that there would be political violence that would follow obviously these alarming statements coming from a top. Official as a Department of Health and Human Services time of crisis that we're are seeing with this pandemic going on, and basically what we heard was that he was apologizing for putting the department in a bad light embarrassing the just secretary Alexander are but there are genuinely people including Michael Caputo and others in the this administration even that we've seen from the president himself that do believe there are government. Scientists working in this administration who are actively trying to undermine any kind of effort to produce vaccine or therapeutics because they think politically, it could hurt the president. So that is definitely a sentiment that people in this White House and this administration overall actually do believe but I think with Caputo what we've seen as he said that he would consider potentially taking a leave of absence for some physical health. Issues that he's going through. It's still not clear if he's going to do that it doesn't seem that a decision has been made, but he is someone who is brought on early on during the coronavirus basically to service to check on the HHS Secretary Alexander when there was some distrust among White House officials of him. So he is someone who is a political ally of the president a longtime friend. Of Roger Stone's they kind of that kind of person. So you the question of whether or not he's staying or going is still to be determined but overall, the response on Corona virus here is still being harshly judged and you can see the president now in that ABC town hall that you showed at the beginning of this where he is trying to change what he's been saying publicly about this. Because not only did he admit to publicly downplay or two privately downplaying are pop privately acknowledging the dangers of Corona virus to Bob? Woodward. Those audiotapes he defended doing. So just last week, and now he is trying to say he did the opposite by the actions he took when of course, we have all seen what the White House did or did not do the month of February when it comes. To Corona virus. All right thank you very much Caitlin and I WANNA go now to Dr Rajiv Shah, president of the Rockefeller Foundation, which is at the forefront of the effort to increase testing in this country, which of course, as we all know has been huge struggle and failure. So much of the way you're doing so much to change that foundation working with a number of states run. By Democrats and Republicans to increase testing capacity so that really appreciate your time. Let me ask you about with the president just said in that town hall he said he actually was up playing the virus by his actions is actions as opposed to his his words. Obviously we we know that he downplayed it and he told Woodward, what's your reaction that you had the president? He up played the virus. I don't know how to react to a playing downplaying is worse. The reality is from the very beginning in March. The Rockefeller Foundation brought together on a bipartisan basis Republicans and Democrats scientists and industry leaders, public health experts, mayors, and governors across the country in issued a plan to get ahead of Corona virus, and it was anchored in widespread ubiquitous testing when we were doing five or six, hundred, thousand tests a week, and we called for getting to thirty million tests a week before the new flu season hit this fall and we've supported thirty. Cities and states around the country including ten five led by governors five that are Democrats by Republicans that have come together to follow the strategies and untechnical recommendations we've issued in in my view. What we need is bold leadership a massive effort around testing and contact tracing because this is going to get much worse if we don't take this even more seriously than it's been being taken right now, which I think is a really significant thing to say You know when you say this is going to get much worse if we don't take it more seriously, I mean the president is telling Americans rounding the corner and this news on Michael Caputo the HHS spokesperson you know is coming up right after Dr Shaw, we learned that Caputo and his team at HHS were pushing to change the language in the weekly Science reports released by the CDC and you wrote. In an op Ed after the CDC changed its testing guidelines and I quote you the CDC the Federal Agency that should be crushing the pandemic is promoting policies that prolong it. So when you hear about, you know fights over the weekly science language and and this kind of flip flop on policy and you know how how much can we trust the CDC now that we know politics are so much a part of this. Well, the reality is the CDC has been the world's Best Centers for Disease Control for seventy eighty years. It's an absolutely critical global institution and the reason I did that bed with Harold Varmus a former. Director of the national, Institutes of health was to make the point that unless the CDC starts putting out guidance that allows schools and universities and nursing homes and meat packing plants around this country to figure out how to test regularly people who do not have symptoms. America's not going to get ahead of covid nineteen and I stick by that because the reality is forty to fifty percent of all spread is a symptomatic individuals. We now have to the work of they operate parts of operation warp speed in HHS, well as the Rockefeller Foundation dozens of partners in industry. We now have new tests that are fast that are fairly accurate that are cheap that could help America turned the corner, but we have to prioritize screening people who do not have symptoms and allow schools to be operational nursing homes to be safe in America to actually get ahead of this, and that's GonNa take more investment and more leadership than we're seeing right now and and you know you talk about these people they cellini need to wake up in the morning. And take a test and get results right. Have it wirelessly report their school are their workplace and and all the sudden the you know the then this would work and you've talked about thirty million tests per week back Tober you mentioned that number in the in the interview Your Foundation released a report we need to be doing one, hundred, ninety, three, million tests in schools and nursing homes. You know monthly to safely reopen and keep it keep it open but yet the numbers now are twenty one, point five, million over the past month right that compares to the one hundred, ninety, three, million, you say we need. Why are we so far behind your recommendations? Well. We've actually partnered with the Duke. MARGOLIS senator to put the report out that you mentioned I. Think it's because we have not had a national priority around a symptomatic screening testing testing people who do not have symptoms and a national strategy would involve first and foremost paying for those tests so that you know the local public school systems don't have to bear the brunt of that that hasn't been put in place yet we've asked Congress for up to forty five, billion dollars. For that purpose, we have not yet seen although HHS has gone outed and pre a pre procured about one hundred, fifty, million of these rapid antigen tests for use the nursing homes and other critical institutions. That is still weeks two months away from having an impact on the ground and and you know the new flu season is approaching right now. So I remain very concerned and I think it's not too late for America to. Embrace the massive public investment the new clear protocols and guidelines and new best practices for testing contact tracing the very basics of science based public health response so that frankly our kids can go back to school in weakened operate more safely. That just shy really appreciate your time I remind our viewers. Admiral now who's been in charge of testing for the White House recently said we're doing the appropriate about of testing to reduce the spread. So we're still getting all this contradictory information out of the White House teen. Thank you so much Dr Shaw. Thank you in next the breaking news live pictures at Pensacola Hurricane sally already lashing parts of the Gulf coast the third hurricane to hit the area justice season, and we've got months to go tonight the major concern life threatening storm surge that is just hours away and the president tonight deflecting questions about climate change as the US is getting hit with the busiest hurricane season on record with wildfires in multiple states, ravaging and dramatic new video from the moments. After two deputies were shot pointblank investigators tonight have any leads on the shooter sheriff of Los Angeles County is my guest. facebook continues to take critical steps to better secure their platforms that includes more than tripling safety and security teams thirty five thousand people and partnering with Security Researchers and Law enforcement they support updating. Internet. Regulations to address today's challenges and hold companies including. There's accountable for combating foreign election interference protecting people's privacy and enabling safe and easy data portability between platforms learn more at about F. B. Dot com slash regulation. News. Hours away from Hurricane Sally Making Landfall on the Gulf coast the third hurricane this season to hit the Gulf coast questioned the conditions. I'm sorry. Quickly deteriorating this hour the region bracing after warnings the storm could bring extreme life threatening flash flooding, several months, worth of rain several months worth of rain in just a couple of days and check out these amazing images of this is from space. Stunning. You see those you. Know I guess appears to be bright thunder lightning showing the bubbling clouds and lightning erupting there all the way around that storm I WANNA go straight to Gary Tuchman. He's on the ground in Pensacola, Beach Florida more than two feet of rain possible in some areas where you are gary three to five feet of storm surge. What is it like Wow i? It certainly we we can see the gus what he's saying. PUTS. A Cola beach. Beaches in the United States. But right now, it's not particularly inviting the outer wall of Sally has arrived here, and the rain has been torrential her hours now and expected to continue no way for most of the day tomorrow to. This beach right here is on Cinta rose. Island. Island right now many of the bridges around the closed down many of the roads already flooded. Once again, this is the beginning of the event. Help behind the as you can see it it's like wait conditions. It's like being on a ski slope is the fourteen hundred foot fishing pier here in Panama. Excuse me? You're on the beach of water just got him out. That peered very popular place people have fish. It's almost a third of a mile long. We're very concerned what's going to happen to that. For we cover. That get the story I remember during Hurricane Katrina. I was in. Louisiana. and. Gulfport at this. Aquarium and this aquarium I said to myself this is going to be destroyed and sure enough it was several dolphins ended up in Washington the Gulf of Mexico miraculously they were rescued a few days later but I think that what I've covered hurricane of this power, what's going to happen to the homes and the businesses and the people but I can tell you Erin as most of the people are safely in homes using very few people wandering around. There are very few evacuation centers. Part of the reason is because of Cova people don't want to be with others during this pandemic. pull. My Hat. That's amazing. But the fact is people are taking it seriously. They're saying their home and this is not going to be the event that we had to Annapolis, Lord? There's not going to be one hundred, forty miles per hour wind eighty mph backs but a lot more rain and it's GonNa. Create a lot of flooding. There's no question about. And Gary is is is you're standing there You know how many hours do they say you are away from it? Really really hitting I mean it is amazing. It does look like like snow blanketed in snow behind you. All right Gary. Gary I think he can't hear me by various obviously can't he's walking out of our shop there a you start to see these things transmission as a storm approaches I want to go to Tom Sater in the weather center. So time you see those pictures that I was just saying to Gary behind him. It really did look like snow right? I mean just that sort of white out conditions and just that amount of rain that's coming through is the storm right now how dangerous could have be? Well I tell you as bad as it was in those pictures with Gary. It's worse just to the West areas of Orange Beach Gulf shores. Dolphin Island. We're looking still at a category one Aaron it reached its peak last night and overnight. When it was a category two, we don't expect it to grow anymore, but it doesn't have to. It's moving at two miles per hour. If it stays at two miles per hour, it won't make landfall till tomorrow afternoon. If it picks up speed just one to two miles per hour, it'll be tomorrow morning we're not really sure we've lost all steering currents in this we've had so much rainfall New Orleans, they may get a passing shower tornado. Watch in red here this box until six in the morning, you can see where the spin is. Again, it's not moving much. So it's been wave after wave of heavy rainfall tornadoes a possibility just to the east of the centre all this purple rain that has fallen. This is already six ten to twenty inches some areas over twenty so that all has to move in. So Pensacola over to Destin Panama City they're going to get hit hard with these waves as well but let's break this down wind gusts already near sixty in Pensacola. They're expected to get seventy eighty ninety in the coming hours as still offshore. When you look at again, what we're forecasting here because it's ongoing two. Days ago it was expected to head over to New Orleans they're not even in the warnings anymore. So it's been whittled down somewhat it does look somewhere around mobile mobile bay, but areas to that east is where it's going to be significant this model and outlier heads toward Pensacola. At still possible we're still not sure the surge right now in the possibility of wins, we do have power knocked out. There appears that are damaged damage we had to riverboat casinos broke away from their security notice the surge it's been reduced significantly from seven to eleven feet down to three four even six but it doesn't matter because that's surge even at two or three feet, Aaron is going to keep. The barrier it's GONNA act like a wall keep all of that rain flooding. In one area. We may have several regions that could have a one in one hundred year flood of that. That's how dangerous in the flooding go all the way to the Carolinas it's unbelievable. These one year events keep happening every year. All right, Tom Thank you very much as we're watching the storm and by the way multiple storms behind it now on on on their way on the other side of the country, the West Coast death toll rising from the wildfires at least three dozen people killed in California, Oregon, and Washington as firefighters race to control. Now, nearly ninety wildfires Martin savage is out front. In Oregon firefighters. Loading up and heading up. Including elite hotshot teams. Trying to rein in the massive riverside fire outside Portland one of three dozen blazes burning in the state, the effects of the historic Western wildfires now spreading far beyond the region seen from space smoke from the fires streaming across the country reaching the skies of new. York the smoke even forced flight cancellations schools in northern Oregon remained closed as million shelter in place from smoke choked air classified a health hazard these fires in Oregon they're apocalyptic going through a couple towns that had been absolutely incinerated Oregon Governor says the State is stretched to its limits. Last week, it had pre thousand firefighters this week nearly double that number and still more are needed. And in anonymous I'm for the first time in its history Oregon's preparing to use it's mobile Mork with the team of seventy five forensic specialists or able to stick take those dreamers up a central location and this time we're able to take in any. Fire victims all the counties ended this facility with as many as fifty people listed as missing or unaccounted for the state is bracing for a rising death toll. Even the plane subside is behind this facility is so that we could give. Families, closures. In neighboring California with fires have been even deadlier the campus family considered themselves fortunate to be alive. There's the fire coming down to burn all my Barn I. Trying to fight the planes on their far before fleeing. On the outskirts of Los, Angeles at the bobcat fire a desperate battle shaping up between firefighters flames at the historic Mount Wilson Observatory. The next twenty four hours could be decisive. We've got a lot of dirty brash thirty growth ladder layered, and so it burns deep down in there and climbs through the trees and the roles with the hills. Luckily, we don't have any wind driving the fire right now back outside Portland in the near deserted neighborhood sophisticated volunteers deliver food those refusing to leave. We all had a pretty grim outlook and the fact that the firefighter stopped it nothing short of amazing I. Think it's a miracle across Oregon and much of the West. They will need a lot more miracles in the days and weeks to come. Out here at the riverside fire, they had another good day. Firefighters made good progress. They're trying to build up the containment around this fire and others in the state. They are pressed for time because weather is moving in, it'll bring high winds it'll bring lightning it could also bring welcome rain there. Right thank you very much Martin and I want to go now to Christine Todd Whitman former Republican governor of New Jersey for EPA administrator under President George, W Bush and now supporting Joe Biden for President Governor, I appreciate your time tonight. So we're seeing this extreme weather across the country the wildfires at least a dozen people killed ninety of them. Now burning across the western part of this country hurricane sally the seventh of the season there's on average only six hurricanes and there's three other named storms behind Sally and we've got two and a half months to go and hurricane season. Do you have any doubts at this point I mean is this just A variety of different reasons and happening this or is this About climate change. Largely about climate change but there are other things I mean with the fires there's no question that forest management could be better in some places. But of course in California the majority of the forest burning are under federal control, their federal land. So that comes back on the federal government. But no, this is exactly what we have been told to expect from climate change. What scientists have telling us been telling us for ages, and by the way, there are more things that come with this. Because if you have these fires at, you have temperatures warming, you have different the change, the ecosystem in different pathogen start to come together animals. Interact with one another that didn't before and come closer to humans and I carry diseases for which we have no immunity. So there's a whole lot of reasons why we should take this issue extremely seriously and start to back our scientists when they tell us the kinds of things we can do we can't stop it, but we could slow it and we could prepare ourselves better and that's what we need to focus. So again, the president today deflected when he was asked whether he believes in climate change right as if it's something one would believe it or not believe him but he deflected it, and of course, yesterday laughed the whole thing off we remind you of what he did. If, we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it's all about education management. We're not going to succeed together protecting Californians. It'll start getting cooler. Just you just watch I wish science coach. I don't think signs knows actually. As a former chief, EPA, what did you think when you watch that exchange? Was Mind Boggling it was shameful. It was embarrassing. The President United States be that And to say that that scientists don't know when he is not a scientist when people more and more people are understanding this change. This is what happens. We've seen it. It's coming out. As you pointed out earlier, you have the hundred year floods now in storms coming very much more frequently they certainly not every hundred years. This is something that is real. It's not an just as he said with cove, it was going to go away. We really believe in that suddenly going to get cooler magically. I mean the man doesn't he won't. Support. Any kind of science doesn't support his narrative and unfortunately everything he says, is tire focus about his reelection whether it's true or not. He puts other people in Jeopardy I. mean these rallies said he holds indoors where he has the supporters who are going to be behind him on camera wear masks but not the rest of the crowd in me. Fine. They may get sick that's great but they also will probably infect others who didn't go to these rallies don't WanNa have part of them. It's just so self centered and So ignorant that it it really is frustrating to see this happen governor. I appreciate your time. Thank you. My pleasure. And next a manhunt growing more urgent tonight after two deputies were ambushed shot and Compton. What do authorities now know about the shooter the Sheriff of Los Angeles County is going to tell you everything. He knows next Joe Biden fighting back as trump ramps up claims of a rigged election. You're going to have problems with the balance like nobody's ever seen before. This November will experience one of the most consequential elections of our lifetime and with headlines changing every hour. You need a guy something to show you how all all the stories together in why they matter. I'm David Chalian in I'm emily. Henderson and each week on our new podcast. We'll help you tune out the noise and tune in to what's politically sound. Politically sound a new podcast from CNN listening wherever you get your podcast. Tonight heroic actions by one of the deputies shot in the ambush attack incompetent new video were about to play shows the deputies taking cover moments after the shooting. We want to warn you the video is disturbing Sarah Cider has the report. And incredible show of bravery, a thirty, one year, old L, a sheriff's deputy profusely bleeding from a bullet to the face is seen helping save her twenty four year old partner. She applies a tourniquet to his bloodied arm and help him move behind a pillar to avoid taking on more fire. Both have already been shot multiple times. Surveillance video shows the ambush a shooter fires into their. Car, while they sit in their vehicle outside a metro stop and calm ten female deputy after getting shot both of them four five times her with a broken jaw in the face stepped out gave a tourniquet to her fellow deputy who had been shot in the head is well, probably saved his life while calling for help she and her partner had just become deputies fourteen months ago. The mother of a six-year-old is seen here. She proudly graduated from the Police Academy and Twenty, nine, thousand, nine, hundred as they are recovering from their injuries at the hospital a callous call for their death by a gathering of about by people outside the hospital. The leader of the group that calls itself L. as Africa town coalition says, he hopes the shooting is in retaliation for the shooting of black and Brown people by the. The most recent shooting sparked protests in Compton when deputies shot Dijon Kizzie for an alleged bicycle. The family says Kizzie was shot in the back and investigation is still underway business start of retribution. Very good start. The LSD has faced serious controversy over the years it sheriff convicted of lying in two thousand sixteen was fired and jailed. There has also been a lawsuit accusing deputies of forming a gang inside the department. The most recent accusation and a complaint by a deputy wissel blower said in a deposition deputies formed a gang called the executioners incompetent. He says, they sported the same tattoos and used excessive force on suspects me being a field training officer. The supervisor and I have to. report this this behavior this sheriff. Deputies Union responded to those claims, the accusations of there being criminal gangs within the sheriff's department. That's ridiculous. California Congresswoman Karen. Bass responding to the Union and the horrific shooting that was horrific that happened. But that gang issue is one that surfaces in the Sheriff Department every few years and for the Union to say that they don't believe that exists I think is is a problem but they both agree even the idea of retaliation like this is sickening. So the people the group that came out here and and screamed, we hope you die that in itself is also pathetic. Maybe. Not as bad as the guy that actually pulled the trigger, but it's just as bad. In a long time. Compton resident who owns a business here came up to us and said, he can't believe anyone would wish for the demise of these two deputies. They are still recovering in the hospital behind me. They are in critical but stable condition one, hundred and seventy five, thousand dollar reward is now being offered for anyone who can give information leading to the arrest of the shooting suspect Aaron Sarah Thank you and I want to go straight now to the Los Angeles County Sheriff. UEVA sheriff I I really appreciate your time. I know you have been able to visit both deputies in hospital how are they doing? While they're in there's still an intensive carer they're in stable condition they're facing a long road to recovery and a lot of subsequent surgeries because the damage inflicted both took a around to the head and multiple shots to the arms and so there's definitely GonNa be a a very painful path for but thankfully, no vital organs end. SO THEIR PROGNOSIS IS A. Put up but a long path I mean just a horrific acting in a tragedy I mean I want to try to understand where you are in finding who did this horrific thing we're hearing there's heavy law enforcement activity after suspected carjacking near Compton Now is this connected to the manhunt for the gunman? Is a separate carjacking suspect in he's Still Linda Containment area supposedly armed. So we're digging all the precautions necessary to bring that person to justice and. Obviously, safe are the community. So now it's been three days since attack we know there's one hundred and seventy, five, thousand dollar reward. Do you think it's been so difficult. To to name to locate the suspect basis. That reward now is increase up to two hundred, seventy, five due to some very generous. Donation commitments from other members of the community. So definitely want to thank them for that and it's just. There's obstacles over combat. We are getting some information we're on some positive tracks with our homicide investigators. So we're hopefully were in the right direction and we'll make bar. So you know you've released a photo of the suspect describing him as a black man between the ages of Twenty eight and thirty wearing dark clothing, which obviously describes a lot of people have you been able to use any facial recognition tools from this video to narrow anything specific down about the person's identity at this point? We've actually been getting a video stuff from dozens of locations around the area were analyzing the right now with our forensic specialists, bitter specialists in this particular area and Again there's a laser being developed Hassett were following in hopes that we're making progress. So I spoke to the mayor of Compton last night Asia. Brown and you know she condemned the attack on the two deputies sheriff but she did speak about belong history of tensions You know in the community with your sheriff's Department here's part of what she said. We can't continue to accept this unfair treatment for people. If it doesn't happen to other communities, it shouldn't happen in hours or with people of Color, and this is a systemic issue. This is nothing new. Comes as a know if you just heard our piece before, but obviously, you know people know about the investigation underway into an alleged gang in your department known as the executioners former deputy alleges that this book celebrated. Civilians you know chef what is being done to address what is clearly deep distrust deep distrust in in back in your community with with law enforcement. While I can say that the distress is in a very narrow segment of the community. If you talk the average person on the street, they appreciate law enforcement they appreciate our presence in the community in particular competence as we start policing crops in the year two, thousand prior to that competent was was. Awash with crimes of violence homicides, gang, related violence spiraling out of control. So we definitely have improved the situation competent in. Or weaken on the issue working on the issue of trust and is always a concern to us, but we have to go by fax. If you talking about losses, you're talking about anything like that. There are no gangs within the department and let's not let's let's get it off the table they even the term executioner we've been studying where that comes from it turns out in attorney going that phrase during a deposition a lawsuit we have yet to find a single person. We either identify themselves is at name. So it's very inflammatory in obviously inflames the passions and IT'S A. has concluded and there is no alleged GEICO. No, we have not investigation. We're taking positive action we did investigation at. The station that resulted in twenty six employees being neither disciplined or terminated, and that means we're taking steps forward. So you just mentioned a moment ago that they've been generous members of your community that have come forward you've been able to increase this this reward. For information on the shooter from one, hundred, seventy, five to two, hundred, seventy, five, thousand dollars you a challenge Lebron James of the Lakers to match that original hundred and seventy. Five thousand dollar reward. Why do you feel that he should do something about this? Well, he made some comments about a month ago after the tragic shooting of Jacob Blake that really it? Eat My interest in those kind of concern. Emblematic of have heard from all Titians, elected leaders across the spectrum including the civic leaders who are jumping on a bad wagging. They're, for example, after the George Lloyd murder which it was. Somehow. There was George Floyd in every single community in every police department across the nation. In that, there's this massive conspiracy against people of Color and I want to have that nonstop. We want the narrative, the Stop we have bad apples in every organization just as we do law enforcement, we hold them accountable. I'm not gonNA tolerate anybody crossing the line but at the same time I'm not going to throw out the overwhelming majority of deputies doing the right thing for the right reason, we have to support them just like we have to support these two deputies, what they went through. The danger the threats of this and we recruit from our own communities were not recruiting out of state. So we have deputies born and raised in confident or now deputy serving confident any slow sanders and all the other communities with drought La County. So we are part of the community. Chevrolet wave I appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. All right. And next Joe. Biden knows he has a Hispanic. Voter problem and the head of the largest Hispanic group in the United States tonight says Biden's campaign has been lackluster in reaching out to the Latino community and trump inviting campaigns both lawyering up matching signatures could that be the hanging Chad of twenty twenty? Tonight Joe Biden has a problem with Hispanic voters, CNN senior writer, an analyst Harry Dent in looked at nearly twenty polls. So went through them analyze them founded on average biden is nine percentage points. We're we're Hillary Clinton wise with Hispanic voters in the final polls from twenty sixteen nine percentage points obviously a something significant to note across twenty polls Biden racing today to Florida he admits he still needs to make his case to Hispanic voters. One. -cation. CARE. gration. Dealing over to the way that. Doesn't damage the Hispanic community which is. Hurt Very. Upfront now, the Democratic governor of New Mexico Michelle Luhan Grisham. She is the first democratic Latina elected governor in US history and Co chair of Joe Biden's transition team, and I appreciate your time governor. So Joe Biden admitting his numbers with Hispanic voters that need to be higher Domingo Garcia President of the League of United Latin American citizens, which is. The largest Hispanic Organization in the country tells Newsweek. There's now a sense of urgency and that they're trying to go to third parties to activate the Latino community because the Biden campaign has been so unresponsive to Latino Organizations is this an alarm bell you have been sounding, and why is the campaign not doing better with Hispanic support right now? Well, any campaign errand that doesn't ask itself every single day what can you do better? How many voters can we reach isn't serious about winning I think one of the nuances skier that we've sort of lost sight of the fact when you've got a really contentious large primary, it changes the way in which and where you are with segments of voters. So instead of sounding alarm, I reiterate to the campaign and work with them every day on the issues that matter to Hispanic families and voters, and they're gonNA Matter I agree with the vice presidents of Florida and no one better to make the case then the vice president directly even though. Senator Harris I think was really well received and we're seeing those numbers tighten up in states like Florida and I think will continue to see exactly that and we'll see the vice president began to take the lead and to do my part to make sure that's exactly what happens. So in Florida Joe Biden, obviously going there and and and recognizing it it's a must-win state right and Hispanic vote there must win for him. There's a new monmouth poll whereby leads trump fifty, eight to thirty two with Hispanic voters right. So that's good news but then you gotta look at all the other polls out there and be see marriage has it Looks stood. There's a bunch of polls. I didn't interrupt you know of that. Go ahead I mean there's some there's some that look good some that don't, and I guess I guess maybe the overall point since you know it's fair. We we don't know is that Hillary Clinton beat trump in Florida with Hispanic sixty, two to thirty five. We don't see any polls anywhere like that. Does that concern you? Again, polls are a reflection of a moment in time, and if you are campaigning to a pole, I would submit that that's a mistake ignoring any voter particularly Hispanic voters look at it looks to me like five is really doing the right work with young Hispanic voters looks like he's at sixty percent in Florida in an estate like New Mexico organizations like echo which are young Hispanic voters who are really clear about the outdoors the environment look we're GonNa talk about putting Hispanic families and expanding voters back to work all of our Latino community in Florida preserving the coastline reinvesting cleaning up the everglades, the two trillion dollars in investments in. Renewable Energy and climate change, and when we get to covert and I hope we can do that in this interview when you talk about the incredibly terrible outcomes for all communities of Color and for Hispanic families, look no further than environmental justice, not having access to healthcare affordable coverage education and a public health system that really makes a difference and I think these are going to be the kind of bread and butter issues that will win over and make the case for the vice president in Florida. All right. Governor. Liu Hunger Show I. Appreciate Your Time. I know you're doing everything you can to do that and thank you for your time and joining us. An email and thank you for letting me. Know that's okay. No I know it's hard with the delay. I always appreciate talking to you. Next mail in voting What? What is GONNA happen here? What could go wrong? The ballots are going to be a disaster breath country. Tonight new details about both trump and Biden's campaigns lawyering up bracing for an extremely messy messy legal battle ahead. Pamela. Brown. Is Out Front. Rope. As. COVID nineteen drives more Americans to vote by mail in unprecedented numbers both the Biden and trump campaigns are planning to deploy teams of lawyers in volunteers to keep a watchful eye on the vote counting process and battleground states. These ballot watchers will oversee and potentially challenged ballots if there are issues and effort that could slow states ability to count votes and leave an opening for misinformation to take cold if it's a close race longer takes to count the ballots the more of a vacuum there is for four and adversaries and. 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09  We Get Horny (Toad), Smoked and Ascend Above the African Clouds

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09 We Get Horny (Toad), Smoked and Ascend Above the African Clouds

"Man These guys decorate for the holidays. They even brought in live animals. y'All better get out of here. The Musk jive Turkey mayflower pub. That's a stupid name. Jose special today gravy fear. I don't nothing in China. Hello welcome what are you drinking. We'll have a life in sixteen ounces. Please she is welcome to life. Sixteen ounces the show. The raises a pipe to the explorers. The adventure seekers lose wanting to break free from the nor to fill their glasses with memorable experiences and basically basically have a good time. I'm Brandon Save me the breast and I'm Paul. I'm a leg man myself. Hey let the feast begin. I am officer five retired tired Steve Marquette Proud member of the Army Quartermaster Corps. And I want to extend a sincere. Thank you to all veterans on your Special Day and you're listening. Thank you life in this episode. We give thanks to a brewery oasis in the wide open spaces of Texas next week get smoked By a culinary pit master. WHO HELPS US pair Thanksgiving meal favorites with Beer and finally we salute troops past and present and speak with a veteran who rose above his own struggles and ascended? Mount Kilimanjaro. With a band of brothers. Aft In our usual crack on this episode of life in Sixteen Ounce Boy We can never please everyone. That's true so so some some actually liked how we featured more beers in our last scary episode good job by the way and editing O s but some people actually wanted to hear more stories. So we're it's very difficult so you know what I say screw it. This is our last episode. What no we're done? This is the last show we already made into nine episodes. Oh man so what are you what do you think for as we approach Thanksgiving's Ooh you know there's a lot of things First and foremost the show that we were able to get this off the ground and then we continue to You don't have this creative outlet For and a drink beer at to get together with you on on at least a monthly basis absolutely and I win. I win the crowd the audience to know that. We're actually recording this on on Veterans Day. Yes and we're going to do a little special Tribute to to them to us and I'll tell you what I'm thankful for. Actually has is a hand in a throat that works properly and you could you turn that in many different ways so go ahead interpreted. Meanwhile I'll take my hand grab my beer and drink and poor beer down my throat. There you go excellent excellent so let me ask you this though. Okay what what is. What's on your dinner table when you turn that corner or call comes in? Hey the food's ready or maybe somebody even asks you. What would you like to have for Thanksgiving that That question does come up normally a couple of weeks before we all get together for Thanksgiving. And I'm I'm a pretty the traditional guy when it comes to what I like to have You know some families they throw the ham in with the Turkey right. Yeah I don't need the Ham. Just give me the Turkey. I the mashed potatoes. The Green. Bean casserole cranberries not so much. The sauce but the cranberries. He's there's a way to do it with sugar and stuff okay. stuffing love stuffing. I can't get enough of that and if you do it wrong it's wrong. Yes yeah yeah do you have to. I'm not a big fan of doing the stuffing in the bird itself and I think that separate is fine. Even if you WanNa just do stove top shoutout is fine but as long as it's moist And it it compliments the the rest of the meal the key word casserole bothers me and unfortunately and there's a lot of green bean casserole. Who knows what other casseroles The the I love gravy okay. So greedy has to be in there somewhere everything that you said. Yes I I like him. Honestly but I would definitely get less of it compared to Turkey and the vegetable side of the house. Talk to me about that because there's cream corn. There's there's Brussels sprouts there's green beans. There's Yom's is that a vegetable. I don't know I've not really really ever half the The Yam experience. I've had the carrots with the brown sugar right thrown in there. I like that okay. Yeah creamed corn. Take it or leave it. I'm not that big of a fan of that so much. What about the people that don't do Turkey and don't do him? I think we're going to talk a little about about that later. On right yes there are. There are some alternatives out there. And that's fine too as long as you're getting getting together as a family and you're sitting down just to kind of get away from you know the the hustle and bustle of life that you're sitting down to kind of get into that mindset of remembering what what it is that you're thankful for. Let me bring this to you though to bring it back to life in sixteen ounces of you have you ever done or consider doing because I think you and I need to do this next Thanksgiving for the show. The the Turkey on the beer can is that what it's called it. PLOP the top of that and he took it that way for going. It's actually called shrunken is a drunken. No that's your thing that you're thinking of duck and duck and yeah I think it's just beer can Turkey. Yeah yet I heard. It's quite good. Very moist what kind of beer would you use We'll talk about about that. I'm sure but we'll maybe we'll have a life in sixteen ounces kitchen feature and we'll have some of our beer that we made sitting on sitting inside of a Turkey just pour it in right so it sounds sounds good sounds good. Hey I think it is time to drink go yes please dear beer Michigan's road. No alcohol sucks. I can't take much to have a brilliant brilliant before we dive into our stories in the few minutes that wonderful sound you heard means. It is time to feature a beer that will mix just fine. With gobs of cranberries and gravy will fill our bellies. We might drink more. Don't worry the trip fan in Turkey will have a sleeping on the couch. And no tile. Oh yes so. What is on the tasting menu here at Paul's taproom for this episode? I've chosen for what because I I wanted to be one less than what you did last time. There's a lot of stuff to pair with Turkey or Thanksgiving in general so I did my best. I think I hit a little low on the target. But let's go all right. The first beer is from anchor brewery. We're based out of San Francisco fairly local to us right now. They're it's they're porter and it is five point six percent there's really nothing else on the label that really needs to be spoken of so the second one. Oh and that's got forty. Ib US forty the IB forty for those IB fans. Second chose is Samuel. Smith's they are out of Tadcaster Yorkshire in UK. Now we're going way for away. This is their winter. Welcome Ale the label basic as a gigantic thirty. This is their thirtieth winter. You're welcome anniversary. This one is six percent with thirty two. I abuse thirty two issues right next. I found this one. It's interesting because this is stellar Twat. Everybody wants should know their traditional one that you can almost anywhere but this one around the pelted by the way. This one is their premium. Dark lager midnight logger. Oh this one is five point. Four percent with eighteen abuse K.. And then I found one that actually I think makes sense for the Thanksgiving okay. This is from high water brewery out of San Jose so again back to the being sort of local sugary maple pecan Pie aged on bourbon barrel oak chips. It says. Fill your pie hole. Not a fan of pecan Pie. I only have one piece of Pumpkin. I agree I agree. That's why we're GONNA probably spit this out normally. That's the last Pie. That's that's sitting on through the Maple Vermont Maple Sugar. Let's see what else it does say that you wish your grandma had put in her famous Thanksgiving Pie. Sit Back Relax. Enjoy a bottle of liquid love ultimately transport yourself back to when family get togethers and from times past and maybe it'll make new special memories coming coming up. This bad boy is at nine point. Eight Percent Hook at twenty eight ib us. This is the largest bottle bomber. Well Lisa looks like a bomber figures. The one that's more potent than most of the other ones. You can buy a six pack. I think Samuel Smith is four pack. I did shoot the temperature gun on all four between fifty two and fifty four degree bottle temperature. Obviously the outside so there you go well interesting choices. Go and pry that open the first one. Inlets porous a pint so we can show our tasting notes with our listeners. Already ahead of your buddy beautiful as much as we would love of to have certified taste buds one of these days. We'll defer to people who know what they're talking about for their official ratings. We also know that there are those who don't like Turkey or ham or you know or Brussels sprouts or Green Bean casserole Yes no there's lots of libations out there we are simply trying to get through this holiday with all the family drama. Just don't show up we will carve this up and come back for seconds baby during the rest of the episode so without further delay. Let's let's roll into the story. Let the good times roll. Hey let the knock you around. Everybody is a retired captain. Will Martin of the Army Army National Guard Veterans Day. Shout out to all the other national guardsmen out there especially those folks deployed since nine eleven. I know there's been several hundred thousand the way out to Iraq and Afghanistan Kuwait and other great sunny places. You're listening to life in sixteen ounces. What's in my in Sacramento Menno? It's definitely the track seven but when I'm in my home state of Michigan. It's the Houma Lupu malicious which is the Ip that got me hooked as in the first place in northern Michigan from shorts brewery. Those neck of the woods. You definitely gotTA check it out so this first story basically takes us to Texas where you had been visiting families correct yet not my family ambers family okay We went to go went to Saint Angelo. which is west Texas boomtown oil town? It's gone through a lot of changes in currently when you get there it it's flat as a pancake. No no mountains any no mountains anywhere and you fly in you have to go through Dallas to even get to San Angelo because there's only so many flights that go into this place. Okay so we got there and we were visiting don and Karen and Maxi and Ellen Ron and Terry be rive at San Angelo airport and it was fairly early. Nobody was around in. We were we. Were waiting for the bags to come out. And of course I looked around and I saw this bar and I saw taps and I said Oh taps and let me you just walk over there because this is life in sixteen ounces. I took out my visit cars and I started throwing them on every empty. which they're all? There's nobody they're all the empty tables in the guy behind the bar who is setting up for the day said Ma can help you and I said well sure. Yeah he So I'm I'm visiting from California. Here's my business card is a podcast called life in sixty now and he goes. Oh Okay Okay and he would you wanNA try a beer. But he my answer was depends on what time it doesn't it. It doesn't make a difference to drink at six o'clock in the morning watching Liverpool true. Yes so he goes. Oh Yeah Chimera I'll give taste. And it was from the TAP. He introduced me to Horny. toad brewery Horny toad. which is this lizard the thing they have in West Texas in you ask anybody who's from there we'd like Oh my horny toads? Oh my gosh yes I know them. I knew them that. Just litter the desert. I don't know if they're like locusts stuff. No no they clearly grew up with them in the know them. I of course I've never seen one but The label able has has a picture of one and the Guy said here. Try this and it was a Mesquite Bean Brown Ale and I believe the other one was An Ip a call a kickapoo so anyway I tried those and he said how long you here for a couple of days. Because we'll just by. I chance first Saturday of every month. He has an open house in his brewery in a place called Rowena okay. Meanwhile I'm like I don't know where the hell it is it is but I'll find it. So that's how we found out about Horny toad brewery in Ruina. I of course got in trouble because I was drinking beer. I don't know eight thirty in the morning and Ambrose like what the Hell you doing. I said there was taps. I'm going to drink here and it is so we asked people no. I haven't heard of it but we got directions which basically is basically get on this highway and just drive and eventually you run into Rowena driving driving through again the flattest land anything. It's almost like Cockfield. Cotton feel cottonfields. COTTON FIELD MAY BE AN OIL RIG EH balancing up and downs nodding and eventually. Oh there's another town and then we passed through that town and then there's another town eventually come up to Rowena. Place is is by the way. I don't know famous or infamous as being the birthplace of Bonnie from Bonnie and Clyde. Okay yeah that will come up a little later but we pulled into this road once we found the town and as we pulled in we were passed by very jovial motorcycles cyclists there was a quad quad machines. You know four wheel off roading vehicles so not hells angels not hells angels but like. Hey were were. We're just out and about on on on a normal highway road in in a four wheel Buggy kind of thing inside and and they were happy as hell and we passed them there. And we're like oh we've got to be near the brewery it just seemed like we were getting close and then we spotted motorcycles motorcycles. Then we spotted cars and like Oh this must be pulled up and the place was packed. Horny to- brewery is an old service arrestation picture the roll up garage doors a defunct type of Cover over what used to be. AH GAS STATION PUMPS THE GUY. Mike McNeill found himself here he was in the in the army. Thank you for your service. Yes pretty cool pretty cool. Interesting guy met his wife she was from I think San Angelo area and then ultimately they picked picked Rowena as they're landing ending zone if you will Because of a prices and availability. Yes so I sat with him in his front porch area. And and we're we're talking. It wasn't too bad of a heat timeframe at that point in the year. But this place gets hot triple digit hot. We're talking about a wraparound porch. No we're talking about like literally like you're underneath the service pump. Awning of a gas station K.. And inside you you go into what would be a a porch enclosed porch and then back there back in the back is his taproom so as a taproom him. He has an outside serving area. I think four hundred fifty ish people live in Rowena. They get like three hundred visitors on this Saturday. They like true triple almost double. Wow their population and Rowena. Based off of Mike's Brewery people coming from well within a reasonable we'll distance of of Ruina in visiting it to try his beer. He Love Beer. Grew up on beer and decided to start brewing. Obviously a home brewer recipes and then scaled it up from there. I'll get into that later in ultimately started making stuff in sharing it and people. Hey wanted did you go in further. And so he he did and he did open up a official brewery in two thousand twelve. I sat with him and and I asked asked him. How does he deal with the heat in Texas? No insulation and who are in. That building is really really cold in the wintertime. But that's not as big a problem. You can always talk for the for the he. I definitely takes longer crash in the summertime and I gotta I gotTa step it you. We know like in the winter time I can just go from. Okay this is Joan term and I can just senator thirty six degrees walk away and come back acme mornings at thirty six degrees but that does not happen in summertime so I do pretty much five so I don't stress out too much. He had a bunch of chillers that he he uses to cool down his work. Down to fermentable temperature and this is how he deals with that. Assal Vicar team in order to cool down particularly in the summertime because guys to water coming out of the ground is eighty five degrees. There's just no way that more with forty shows it took us on a tour which is basically came in. Let me show you the Service Bay take three steps here. Take three steps there. And then when you're done and they he did have this contraption that I just loved and I believe it's on a social media sites but he took a vessel conical ton. Whatever you WANNA call it and then he spray painted on spray sprayed on installation which contains five hundred gallons that he's able to of of water by the way that he's able to get down to thirty degrees during those crazy hot months in the summer again the middle of nowhere? I don't know do they have really really good water in the middle of nowhere. I asked him about that too. Not good not good to drink so you don't WanNa make beer with water right out of the So I- filter all great to speak filter that every everything water boiler shelters to water used to clean case whatever and then make brew water. I've got a five stage. Reverse osmosis filtration system. Ed grew modern history so once you ended up with is completely the ionized water. There's nothing so ask Dad for burn too so you have to address some carbon this and stuff like that to to make it through. I think the finished today is if I WANNA make You know British Pale spell or or a bidder. I can replicate water so s the advantage of all that stuff you can look up and you can find chemical formula for water from anywhere there today. Supposedly you know why Dan I'm just taking someone's worth pretty good. He has eight beers. Here's on TAP Let's go through a few of them. He has a kickapoo. EPA A mosquito being Brown which is actually pretty interesting. He has his original flagship. Which is the Angelo Amber Basov San Angelo interesting? He has a pump Jack Porter I don't know if he had that they're not at the time. But a con Cacho Cream Ale a care tassir which was a Scottish. We heavy and he told me a story about Scottish guy going. The word Tassir is kind of a funny turn to put into a beer and then a volunteer blond. Which I think he'd does talk a little bit more about how that evolved from being a considered a light eight to be here to what he was a crafts craft brew? Side of the house would be a a blonde. I asked him how he came up with the styles Bloomberg Because even though when I opened two thousand twelve the most popular style here already in the country but Texans is this easily twenty years behind the times and if you go back twenty years most popular beer style was amber so this. He's one of those guys that again. Home Brewer. How do you turn from a hobby to a commitment? And how do you go from a part time job to a fulltime job. He had a fulltime job. He explained that in a volt eventually he had to pick like one time when it started as I held on to my full time job for three and a half years until obviously had two full time jobs and something has to give so and then went off. I probably for like a year is like this is ridiculous average of four hours tonight. Nine Connecticut Hill so I started part time my plan. I'm was to do the embryo only for at least a year. Just do one of the year you know make things easy. I only have one firm it or back. Then you know it's he had. He had a moment where he's trying to select what beers to serve. If two people in West Texas any he he learned a little bit about from a distributor. That told them about a a light beer situation that he had this information that Andy got helped him evolve his light. Beer approach may be the blonde and things like that so interesting. How again he has to make money any? He has to serve something that eventually going to be used. He doesn't want to have stuff sitting in kegs months after it's made although that's not bad thing to have some styles but things like a seasonal batch sitting there for months so I mean I only went three months before the female but now slightly different recipe is born blind and a cell as well. Because does I mean the first batch of one really quick I sold out again right away and named And then the second bitch took a long time. I remember asking one of my accounts. Hey what's going on last month. You so this stuff like it was off and he goes. I can't tell you. How many times have this conversation? Someone come in or Miller lite and I'll say hey. Have you tried this locally. Brewed tree male. And like no haven't tried that it's like well you should try them. Okay and I'll bring him one day later when Cedar Glasses. MVSA house at cre- mill and they'll be like it was really good can get you know. I'll take life and I decided decided after here next story from a couple of different accounts. Light beer drinkers went out looking for beer and craft beer. Drinkers are not looking for as a home brewer myself. If you want to go beyond five gallons you have to scale up your recipes. And this is how how he approached that the IPA appear the Mesquite Bean Braunau and porter were all hungry recipes. Then a skill that was learning process to the first one is skilled. I was the first being ruined and I quickly not learned that. It's not linear You know what I'm saying. Hey well this is what offended batch so just multiply that by twenty no. That's not the way it works because the efficiency of the system is different. I was going to be different first time I did it. I made a supposed to be like a five and a half maybe purchase extra career and the first time I made it onto a system that came out about seven percent and wait hawkiness they just multiply everything his ingredients again west Texas he gets US malts from the typical title two main locations in hops. He's got a guy that he's got a guy right and He helps them out and one of the things that he's going to be brewing here. Sure well I'll tell him he'll he'll tell you about it. His next style is insurance. Only like seven percent this imperial for Mexican Baseball Bat Hombre an just ordered. I normally stop the off the finishing house career. He's GonNa but I I just last week has a fixed and next thing when I sent an email to my guy I'm just gonNA try. Try it distributing. I asked him what inspires him. Cool thing about it. He's he retired from the military. He's been all over the world. He served in Iraq. He's he's seen it he's done it and I believe he was actually in like a human intelligence like thirty five series. Mos So smart guy and he he was able to grow up with his. He's a military brought his father so he was able to taste different styles in different locations around the world. Nothing that is what really helped on the air force and his last assignments before he retired was England so we we lived in England for three years and I turned sixteen years old in England. Winchester take time was illegal at least for beer and I remember going down to the pub is how the uniform in low towncar Chechen in Bucks County County. I mean we were timing. The Americans on the street. All my friends were English. We went down Me My friend. WHO's a few months old me and his only brother Roster column where the names when Unicorn which was a local pub and I was a vassal and I I love English sales I I I mean I I did two tours in Germany Nyami myself and I never I never really I mean I fear number two Germans doing Elva job you know makes them loggers? I mean if I have to drink eh. European blogger preferred to check stuff but can you chose text and I just love hills. I don't know what it is. I always blame it on that. I asked him here. Is I fear experienced by the way the first year experience was probably a year before that My old man was in the Air Force and his union was having their annual picnic and This is you know this is still an England taking place on Bass I guess and Nina the from friends show. We still a couple of Swiss the old manse cooler and cooler full of beer grand antipolo cans and went off behind some trees and drink nests. Will we know well the difference now. Was this exciting. We're drinking a beer. I very first beer drank was a Swiss time was the number one the United States it. It was about a thirty minute. Forty five minute. Drive out to Horny to- brewery but well worth it really cool guy super quiet And certainly certainly Loves his beer in his people his audience his fans clearly love his beer as well. Very friendly location. Very strange and NEAT and I. I can't wait to see how much he's able to has it. Longevity of of not only being noticed keeping his business going and then finding a way to continue on his legacy well hopefully they can distribute due to California at some. I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure they ever do that. He's like I I if I can somehow distribute beyond three hundred miles. Also he's going to be pretty happy or pretty sad because he just he. He appeared to be one of those guys like. Hey I love doing this. But it's it's it's a struggled to keep keep it going to know only brew beer but also distributed. Because he's self distributes. He drives all over the place taking his beer to locations. which has got to be pretty draining? But Mike's doing it. Let's see how long he can keep it up. He's got a great support staff behind him and people love his beer as as becoming so. Yeah check it out. Horny toad brewery sexless store here listening to wife and sixteen ounces. This is Mike into Korean arena Texas Trevor Driving through or in ruining for some reason come visit us even if we're not open probably yeah so going with the theme of Thanksgiving branding. I understand we just spoke with well. We just heard from Mike. WHO's a veteran? And you have a story about out of veteran but we're kind of kind of drain these forebears and I'm a little hungry and I think you're next story is going to make make me want to order some food. Oh yeah pretty amazing. So the gentleman that I have been in contact with for several years ears. His name is Jan Michael. Jim Michael Michael Vince. nope not Vincent Valdez. Thing is the air. Will people like really. You guys are dating yourself did it did it. Didn't Air Wolf People. Look it up. Why this awesome show so jan-michael vow Dez is is a chef Currently for the crust and Crumb in Turlock California. Not a bad place They actually everything thing that they do is a local ingredients. I love the name very nice. Yeah he's also the assistant brewer for renegade brewing supply out of Turlock as well and they've got some things in the works we will probably talk about them in future episodes with brewery that they're going to be opening up In in the near future future and will visit there and and get some ingredients so we can brute your house. One day. Yes so jan-michael. He enlisted age. Twenty two His primary Job in the military was in. He was a nineteen kilo he's a debt well as tanker that's what we call them our crew member AKA tanker. Oh Yeah He graduated number one out of one hundred and fifty three. Maybe it's not that dumb ass. No not not at all. He was given the opportunity to cross. Train is a nineteen Delta. Then he should of. Because that's where I that's my first. I'm dancy wealth to hide. I thought of you right away when he's the guy already. Yeah recon that's where you start He flew through the ranks. Earning his e five or sergeant rank in Just three years course As a lot of people do the military they get busted down in rank for you know a lot of shenanigans not a lot out that no. That's true well I don't know these guys are bad. Boy Me me me guess beer. I'm not sure what they role in trouble for cooking no no Most of US military career was spent He was conducting important research and development live-action training and urban operations to get units ready to deploy which includes some special operations group so after the military kind of a hard transition he found himself going through a lot of va VA programs and PTSD stuff as well. The hit suggested to him to find a healthy hobby. Talk you Pie. His downtime. Mm Yeah absolutely you know. We need an outlet. You need a creative healthy outlet so he recalled a time when he worked at a barbecue smoke house in New Mexico. When he was sixteen years old he worked there for three years and he always found that interesting? And he's he's he he He says that maybe it was his caveman. Instincts brought him To to the barbecuing so you know what he picked back up at that time. Any ran with it He talks about the the brewing aspect of beer. Kinda came to him when he was smoking. One day not actual cigarettes but but meets smoking briskets and in that sort of thing and while he was waiting for the smoker to come up the temperature he. He's having a beer and he liked the flavor but he felt that it was missing something so he looked into how to brew beer and hopes to find You know a way need to get a beer that he really liked drinking. Yeah why why is cooking. Yeah Weiss cooking so he he hooked up with renegade's Bruce Apply interlock and he was often brewing after that So he so picture this. He's got a smoker in Hebrew kettle rolling at the same time the AROMAS. Oh it's gotta be amazing right but can't we have a scratch and sniff podcast right now. So the smokers coming up the temperature of the brew catalyst coming up to to a rolling boil at that time and he he wants to put the meat on the smoker. He jump over to the Brew Kettle and Star Brewing. Beer oughta infuses where the other would be amazing. Which is did he talk about taking like an injector in injecting his meet with a beer beer and well so one of the things that he did? talk to me about was when he gets ready to do a dry rub on his brisket he infuses fuses. It with hops no nice. Yeah he rubs with with with a hop blended heat that he puts on their. Yeah because oil's resin just beautiful awful beautiful Steve Pellets. Holy F- CONES I. I didn't ask him. I'm guessing it's whole leaf though trying to put on there like that But heat heat. He comes over to the house. He's in the in in in my pub and he and I thought he was going to bring over brisk. We were GonNA talk about pairing that risk it and I did push you see if he could maybe lean more towards Thanksgiving traditional neat and he must have read your mind because when he did when he came over. This guy was completely prepared. He came with a Turt- we came a Turkey. Mashed potatoes came with cranberry sauce. He came with Of course it was gravy Stuffing and and he brought over his his signature brisket as well and I supplied the Pumpkin Pie because he says we have to discuss the beers that go along with desserts as well. Yep So amazing. You had pumpkin pie so weird because that's kind of strange how we're still ton of touching on the Pumpkin Pie after episode date. Yeah well so. We started off with the latest beer. Possible your blonde right. And and this is what he had to say about Pairing Blonde Ales with food. So the reason we're starting out with a blonde. The blonde is a light beer. So technically rule of thumb is. Were you want a pair of a light meter white meat from there. He talks about half away. Since we get into F- advising evidence we get into heavens and and He has a couple of Sue Possibilities to where you would shrink that along with a meal. Yeah Marsden's in. That kind of fruity esters. Yeah Nice. Having Bison pairs really good with like Italian creamy sauce or anything creamy. That happened by going to go ahead and highlight or or just pop in the mouth. Now I initially thought of you. This is this. Did this research study. That must have been very difficult for him. That's right this this next one though the Brow Nail I thought Oh boy here we go this is this. Is Paul's playground right here. So interesting enough he says. Has that during the Thanksgiving season for all of the foods that the Brown Ale is universal in pairing our talks and so he talks about that right here. Ales Porters. Your Brownell is your universal pairing if you are loss or if you're a beginner at this and you want to pair your your a beers with your meal always remember that you're Brown L. is always a failsafe in welfare with anything. There's a lot of okay nutty chocolate. He Carulli notes in there a lot of the food that we cook goes through. What's called the mayor's reaction? The mayor's reaction is is something that happens during it's Caramel Association process. There's a non enzymatic and there's an enzymatic process which happens which causes are are not only fruits and vegetables to Brown but also our meets as we cook them that those those sugars caramelized and they complement that Brown Ale with all that Carmel Association on that sugar is perfectly we also got into the Russian imperial cereal. Stoute's Your Holiday Beers you're rushing imperials doubts your Irish read your Amber Ales. All of those are holiday beers in the reason. Is that you. Yeah you look back at throughout time you know we. We have a lot of root vegetables that we consume throughout the winter months. Why because we don't have of those fresh carrots coming up all we don't have all the other You know things that would grow during the summer available to us so it's the same thing you want to cook within your season you want to go ahead and brew within your season. Also and that's why a lot of these beers pair the way that they pair okay so at this point in time. You're you're white. You're like passed out on the floor of your close. We were eating the whole time. He was talking and Either you're soaking up the alcohol or you just like The only my stuffed in my stomach stuff to my throat and there was we had such inks were due for life in sixteen ounces. There was I am not there. It was doing something stupid. Apparently we perfectly married up the different alcohols the different beers in the foods and Then we got into the desserts. We let me let me emphasize us which I don't think we can do it enough. Pairing drinks with food is absolutely crucial. Yes it takes it takes on a whole `nother atmospheric a Experience if you do this right I mean you you can go to places actually used pay a lot of money for and they'll actually do it. Where the ambiance a lighting the the stuff around you and then the meal paired with the right wine or beer and then there's a cleansing Palate in between to get ready for the next course. Yes I mean. They're costly but there's a way to do it where you just like it enhances the taste and normally these are done with wines. He talks about so that you're white meats go with Zafran as quite a with read. Most people do that but they don't do that with beer. No but I guarantee you're going to see an uptick in this particular thing. In general now we went on to talk about the desert and he he said sweet will cancel out sweet For the moment. You don't want to do what we just did. which is a pecan Pie? Nervoun aged but we. I did have an OATMEAL stout. We paired that with the Pumpkin Pie in it was amazing. Okay yes let me throw this out there real quick because I think one of our future show always is GonNa is GonNa do is my homebrew club. A guy made a pumpkin beer and unlike early another pumpkin beer then added lactose to it. Oh ooh in. It came out like your drinking pumpkin pie with cool. Whip topping on it very nice. Yeah it was awesome. I love love. The you know the the roads. I love the barley that that's in an OATMEAL. Stout I love the way those aged but also pumpkin pile of the pumpkin spice. And sometimes I don't really like to takes. Thanks to much sweetness. So in hopes we're we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA use us to cut it out and cut out all the sweetness and one or the other and see what's going to happen and tonight's a science science experiment. I have no idea what's going to happen with the beer in the Pumpkin pie that we brought but That's my that's my main gas in my main goal In what's going to happen with with it. So he also describes Different ways to prepare Turkey and what changes with the pairings. You know for instance If you're going to to to oven bake a Turkey or to smoke it or deep fry there are different pairings with each way that you prepare. The Turkey Duck Turk Kurkin. What does that GIN turn? Duck and her did he talk about putting a Turkey on top of beer can no we got a little bit into that. Mostly he talked about the pairings the different ways of probably far beyond that next experience with our oven roasted chicken or Turkey poultry poultry. I'll I'll call a paltry he can do with anything any anything bird wise avian poultry wise. You're logging oven roasted. WanNa go the a pale lager but also keep in mind that Pale lagers also will pair with fried food so if you have if you want to deep fry that Turkey or French fries or onion rings or anything anything like that. It's GonNa pair nicely with that Your Blonde Ale. which is what we're we're digging on right now is GonNa go great with with that That Turkey it's GonNa go with oven roasted but it's also GonNa go good with the fried chicken it'll go good with fried paltry so that's where your deep Fried Birds GonNa come into play with that Blonde Ale perfectly are perfectly Irish reds are going to go good with your smoked beef pork or barbecue. You're brown L Like I said. Brownell is a universal. Pairing is GonNa go good with Barbecue pork so for those holiday Hams to now we get into porters porters or good for For smoke beef and and Barbecue and we have stoute's which are going to be an excellent pairing for not only the beef but the barbecue ribs anything anything deep fried so this is interesting for this time of year. What do you what do you think he basically says no to completely across the board that you don't don't that doesn't pair with anything Oh the top seller. I'm thinking. IPA Yeah Yeah. Then you're right. No I P as no. Oh yeah zero. In fact he says stay away from those stay way from pails stay away from reds. Oh really red. Yep He said I'd get pales in things because there's a lot of citrusy pining So much that stuff doesn't floral doesn't I can see why floral Piney Piney and y'all citrusy doesn't three that he says that that go with basically anything on this time of year is going to be your browns your ambers and your porters that sounds good. That sounds that sounds good. Really good you can make well. I think we posted this. Before in our social media site you can take the grain the spent grains from the beers at you make a make bread. Yeah Yeah one thing that he wants everyone to remember is that beer is more versatile than you think. Bring my chart backup so you have your potential interactions chart. That's a really good. Go to if you're in you're really trying to Nail this nail. The science park down is there's an art to this. I mean the food tastes really good. The beer tastes really good. But in order for it to get to that point you have to really understand the science behind the art and You know we have the potential interactions. We have characteristics. We have interactions on both ends. You know we have sweet that counter sweet we have a suite that counters Tannin's we have sweet that counters bitter sweet that counters roast suite that counters kept saying in her heat from chilies and Chili Guy. You know a love that Joey we have sweet that counters acid or sour. We moved down into like a salty. Any any salt is going salts going to increase sweet sweet little also counter roast and it'll increase the EST stringency tanny tastes that you would get from like an Ip a it's GonNa increase that skunk Acidic pungent taste any of your acid categories. Your acid characteristics. They're going to call them salty foods. So if you're drinking like pills ner or Longdale anything that's really salty it's going to counter that they're near you know Acids also gonNA call calm fats and it also Other acids it'll increase salvation of course first and then we moved to our bitter category are bitter category we have bidders will will calm bidder. It'll calm sweet. It cuts fat. It calms you mommy. It increases Tannin's it increases kept sason. He it's Mommy's GONNA compliment in the three categories stories. We have here you. Mommy's GonNa complement our fats. Salt and sweets are roast anything with a roasted flavor You know such as our our porters they're going to have that roasted barley roasted malt malted flavour in there It's going to calm any smoke flavor. So that's why we're we're pairing that with the brisket tonight To to really accent that meeting that seasoning and you get a lot of people go crazy with seasoning on their smoked meats and almost simple guy. He has an interesting restaurant story that he's going to tell us about. I go to restaurants and I see people people paren- their wine and Perrin their meals with wine and I've I've always wanted to to pair my beer with my mail because I I love. I love beer. If if I could put a ring on Beer I would put a ring on it so when I go to a restaurant I was really looking forward to you. Know what these servers and stuff were with. Their knowledge was their knowledge base. Where they just slinging food or were they? Were they interested in in my interest. What's going into my body and Whether it tasted good or not and ninety percent of the Times it was no They could they could pair it up and they just say well red meat red wine white meat white wine so the more assorted asking about the more than I knew. A lot of people didn't know about this. And and the more that I I've taken on the responsibility to learn the science and sacrifice my liver in my My waistline for you guys. So that's basically it. I mean he's on the up and up with renegade brewing supplies. And like I said they're going to be opening up their own place Probably Modesto California soon. I think it's called Desert Fox. I'll get back to you on that But there is Jan Michael Vincent the Valdez it's in my love. It love thank you and I believe in any bringing samples next time you're listening to liken sixteen ounces. What's in your this Jan-michael Valdas here encouraging you to push push the envelope get out there? Try New things and don't be afraid to be creative so this next story is pretty elevated. Would you say that it's this. This isn't my wheelhouse. Yes yes this. One came to me Eh. From a fellow veteran John Bender who served in Iraq with the United States Marine Corps. He was an Ramadi I believe no Volusia sorry Felicia okay and he served with a individual name. Robbie Horn any. He you know I was asking around about stories and he said have you heard about Warrior warriors keep and I said No. I said they're out of taxes. They're a veteran's outreach program. Robbie Horn is an outreach coordinator. You should check them out and at the time with with my photography skills. Journalism skills in my videography skills. He said Hey. They need someone to go with them to document their climb. I am their first climb as an an outreach. Veterans Program Group of their of their. Some of Mount Kilimanjaro which by the way is nineteen thousand three hundred and some odd feet. Seventeen thousand seventeen feet and it's located roughly around the equator Tanzania Kenya area of Africa. It's it's one of the seven summits high elevations on each continent and I was like Hell yes so what does how. How have you been before? What's the the high civilization that you've been to for fourteen thousand five hundred and five feet on Mount Whitney'll okay so when we went Clinton was the highest ranked? Okay excellent by far more. Yea Well on a side note yes we have at some point. We're GonNa talk about the things that we we have you know but yes we have been to. The top of Mount Whitney Me Myself a few times weighed at least once you've been twice. Yeah twice yeah okay. Yeah and then of course the skills that I brought to the table. He's like why don't you don't go with us. And I said I I absolutely would however it was happening within almost the two week period and I said I can't spin this around this quickly to go however I kept tabs on them check them out and then I did reach out to Robbie Over a period of six months after they summited in. I just wanted to know a little bit more about warriors. Keep about him and about about. Of course the climb so I spoke with him over the phone. He's out of Austin area. I guess how did you two stories for Texas I know Oh right. We're we're we're California based podcast yet. Tell me how far reaching tentacles I did speak to Robbie and he I I I basically said just right off. The Bat tells about Warriors Kindle orders. Keep his a veteran ran nonprofit organization that We we specialize and we call oath You know the outdoor therapy adventure for heroes is what that stands for So we so you know take better outside and we get them off the couch. Moving around and Yeah I mean that's always say outside side. I mean we climb mountains. It's it's a little bit more challenging than just going outside but that's the basis of it is You know taking enjoy nature using nature's therapy Instead head of this thank pharmaceutical stuff but using therapy man to take these guys and gals mines out of the the dumps and come back on the shoulders Most of us have gone through that and I'm not saying overcome that but most of us have are headed in the right right direction of are coming on. I'll say so we just WANNA share. But we've overcome with other people that that are going through a rough time. I asked him how he became involved with this outreach program. You know you did six years. I've done twenty seven years. There's people that we've we know that have retired and moved on on or or or were were deployed wounded veterans. Things like that who've jumped into a few of these programs as an outreach You know resource what is what is different about warriors. Keep that it's different from the others. And that's what I asked him. How was it developed? John John Cody thirty hardness as founder. He's a marine great guy. I'm so yeah. He's the CO founder Executive Director So yeah talking to him about it obviously so you. Our own stories are on on passive gone down and that was him to as as you know he'd he'd gone to these other support organizations and knocking any of them. Because obviously they're all doing wonderful things you know. They're all trying to help you know that's the main thing right there that supports even out there but it was like you know even in me a hunting trips fishing trips like I said they're amazing times. You know you could not ask for anything better to kill a monster elk like you know I got go down Alabama go go catfish off. Shore some red snapper like who wouldn't want to do that. And then they ship the meat back to my house like who would want that. I mean we the amazing condos on Dolphin Island Alabama. Never been down. There was my first time. I've ever been down there but I mean I grew up in south Texas so it's similar climates really hot. It really humid. But it's just it's a real nice area whatnot but you know it's you go to your trip and then you come home. There was never any like really re the engagement Again not their fault. I'm saying what they did was was awesome but yeah it was just like you know. Here's your here's your prize. You know have a great day So ours is more focused locally Was If we're trying to do. Obviously we intend to be nationwide We just had were growing slow where we're just starting out seattle like up in Dallas in mckinney areas where the organization was founded Did you local events out there for local veterans so we're trying to Builds you know basically a community within our communities to let these veterans know that there's an organization out there that that you can do local things too that we don't have to travel take a week off of work to go on a hunting trip for fishing trip. And you know I'm not saying worry about all the stressors that come along with that but it's something that we can you know we. We like did to ride bikes. We like to hike We like to do a lot more crazier stuff and we do a ropes. Course where you know. It's it's pretty insane. You're pretty high up off the ground just walking on ropes so it's not just like I said it's the walk in the park but you know we we do accommodate. Those what's weird about is doing like veterans day slash slash month. Themed sort of here Thanksgiving and it turns out he's actually climbing in Colorado and Texas In honor of veteran's Timeframe so yeah he's he's he's hiking probably right now curious how that turns out the how did he get started. How did he find warriors? Keep your Corpus Fan Corpus Christi. I grew up a hundred fishermen angler and So yeah when I got out I did a few wounded warrior so I got to go on these trips with these amazing people that are you know done. Some amazing thing for a country see now. It's obviously just just to be around those people and doing those things and I've always wanted to help out with them. You Know I. It's not that I enjoy you know hanging stuff on wall. I enjoy the time you know. Spend together with people and the healing process. I guess you could say the hard work and so I said I went on a lot of those thanks fishing ones and I saw on facebook. Everything's in social media now. I saw video of the worst. Keep the advertisement. You know soliciting volunteers. Here's to veterans to volunteer for the program that you know that wanted to challenge in our. I watched his video and I we used to say and more excited every time we climate 'em out why. Why are we doing this now? What what are we doing this? And he I don't know I don't know what got into but I wanted to challenge she 'cause again Renault Terry once you do that. You're like you know the military makes everything you've ever done. That's fun. They take all that away. They make the beach fun. They you make the water not fun you know. They make flying in an airplane helicopter. Make all that not fun. So humming amount was something I told myself I would never do again and Yeah so I was like you know it was more for the challenge versus the actual the actual act itself. It was more of this was way out of my league and I wanted to challenge my body. I I've been to a whole lot. You know I I was up to about three hundred and forty pounds at one point I've I've way about to ten right now at the second right now so I my body's gone through a huge transition of you know where I used to take all these others medicines and it was just a coma toast just to basically waste of life to work you know. Had I exercise every single day. Now not saying this amazing shape. But you know I've come a very very long way so it was something that I wanted to test myself to to see my inner and outer shell of of of what accomplish there is a moment in your life and I'm not gonNA even attempt to mirror my twenty seven years with Robbie's even though I've done and way more years than he has he clearly has done the harder part of What the military asks of you loss deployments and things like like that He's gone through a lot but at one point in time you realize how ingrained and you are in the uniform. How much you need those battle buddies? How much you missed that? Komo Camaraderie and in his case. I asked him how did he feel like he needed to have that back in his life. Honestly it's one of those crazy. Thanks I I. I've gone to like I said that whole transformation of my body and also at the the time I was living up in Michigan I grew up in Texas. I did thirteen years. In the Marine Corps I went to a couple of divorces. You know they issue those out on record these days so I my my wife at the time. She was from Michigan. We're duty marinas. Well we're stationed in Okinawa. Japan was our last duty station together. And so two little kids and I had a teenager at the time as well That was back in Texas so I moved back to Texas his and Again she was for Michigan. So I I met I live up in Michigan for a little bit and that was That was GONNA struggle but it was just being away from my nor being away from Texas being away from my family and so you know that's had gained a lot of my weight being away from my kids and going through the whole transition of being an event being by. That's my rock bottom man. That's that's rock bottom and then getting out of rock bottom and moving back to Texas. I've been trying so long to pack the taxes like you know the military. It's not just easy to move back where you WANNA co two zero percent a chance and like I said my kids were kind of spread out too and I just overcome so much like in my life period and gotten on through so much that so many people I'm not saying can't but they don't I don't know I just I just did a lot of stuff and that was that had been challenging me for a long time and it was just spitting icing on the cake like it was it was almost like Karma or not even Colorado but like a reverse Karma K.. You deserve this is going to kick your ass but you deserve. Serve this right now. So you know just it's almost like a momentum of of just like icing on the cake of what I just went through. Now he does have a party mentioned quite quite a few times. I think his name's mark if I'm not mistaken bitty but that's his support if you will okay or in other words. That's battle buddy. He provides that listening. Post that That that that person that you dial the number they answer the phone they sit there and go talk to me man. Tell me what's going on. I I would say that. Was You for me but you normally hang up absolutely I go dude. I'm busy. What's your problem now? I can't I can't put the door back on the pickles. So one of the things that warriors keeping again if you look up warriors keep an dot org you. I can see and read all about what they're what they're involved in He does talk about the oath quite a few times. You might have heard but this this new plan of taking on something as tall and has as challenging as Mount Kilimanjaro. It you can't take everybody. So how is he chosen to be part of this. Very unique and Selective group. Yeah so I applied for it was it's GonNa be a kind of a long application process And I wanted you to be in the Dallas area which I understood you know traveling purposes but I was willing to drive to all the trainings trainings. See how it was six months training. Evolution was setup was in place that you know we had to train together for obvious reasons. People die of their own children Gerald pulled out. Let's say five to ten people die. You're out of the thirty thousand that attempt at every year on average about five to ten people died from altitude sickness. There's nothing like that kills. There was hardly any life up there so I applied for this thing. You had to write a bio yet to send your duty to fourteen what you know. It's like your receipt that you're in the military shows everything you've done like awards So yeah since all that stuff in thinking that you know I'll probably make it a little bit but but since I don't have any like mountain climbing experience and it was an MP man everybody hates military police everybody hates cops so like usually when it comes to the military like like like civilians. Think it's cool but military people like. Yeah so I was Kinda thinking. They're going to pick these guys. That have these sexier or Ladies Ozzie sector jobs so yeah they picked me to go to dis- interview process so the first part of the process was a it was a phone interview. Where they they obviously called talked to ask you some questions it was more encoded? Adt Com Shane or treasure in code that called and then we did a I made it through that and then the week later they call ready to face time interview and so I didn't have facetime interview and they're asking what your plans are. You know what do you plan on on doing with this for yourself and you know what do you plan on using. This floor is a tool to help others and just kind of what you planned on on using it for and so I see that they picked. I think we started off with fourteen people and you know some people drops for medical reasons and some people dropped some other reasons and they ended up being told them. Nine of us us weren't Africa but at this at this time that he was doing going through this stuff. I don't want to jump ahead. I did ask him well can you. Can you take take me back to what was going on in your life when when you felt the need like a this is getting out of hand. Some something needs to happen. I need to turn turn turn a corner. I need to do something. Something needs to happen where I harness the healthy part of what what's out. They're the things that motivate me and I asked him what was what was the catalyst or catalysts. They turned helping. Turn that Corner Salah brother. He was a He was ready to. He's one of those you know the twenty to commit suicide. He committed suicide. This year will be seven years. There's actually the nineteen th the next weekend when actually I'll be in Guadalupe peak will be seven years that he's been gone so you know. I always try to do something good on his birthday. You know instead sort of sad beat oppressed. I've learned that overcoming all this stuff. Well I think we've talked about that before that getting outdoors is extremely important for at least at the very at least your mental state in the first episode we actually mentioned that too was the first episode. Yeah how to me. It's my church. It is where I find Zan. It's where I find in comfort and you know. Even Vince your friend that you grew up with he just he just feels at peace out there and then in when you well. I've mentioned this a few times. Also there's medical practitioners doctors that are prescribing nature feature as a way to calm things down to get back to perspective to get kind of senator yourself and he actually Robin. I talked about this because I'm a bit of a of a high freak. I Love Ridge Lines. I love summits. It provides that obviously that goal. Like hey if I get up to that then I'm done I can. I can say I've achieved that and then I move on but when I get to these these locations there's something special there's something magical. There's there's a there's a pause in in a way to reflect what what you've just done and you're well you're closer to heaven. You're closer to God. You have a chance to be alone with your thoughts and I said when when he gets to these summits 'cause he clearly states that he's he's he's never been a climber like I have been for decades but he does almost the same thing he he feels a need to take something with him to do something at the top and this is what he is what he does. It's been one of the I think that's one of the things that keeps me coming back. Man is that the people say like what do you do. And he gets to the top and Mike your silver come with emotion why not just like a buzzer. Goes off like it's very emotional for sure you know I My brother he was an infantry. I can just hear them complaining the entire time you know like so you know I keep that with with me and I do so when I came in. You know I've I've had a few friends and a boss along the way You know throughout the years in the Marine Corps. So I've I've got one that it was one of my marines I wore shirt up there as a grunge style made A. They made a shirt for him. Says honor the sacrifice on the back. It says in memory of Josh will or sort of Joshua or Ashley a a nineteen July twenty twelve was data. See I wore that shirt up top For a lot of reasons you know one is mom. Obviously I keep in contact with his mother. I've never even met his mother. That's a crazy thing I I still. I want to give her a hug. But Yeah I do I honor I like to honor the fallen. Obviously all most of us do that kind of stuff when we go up there I've got AH flag. That one of my old. He just retired first sergeants. He sent me a flag. He got to American flags. Flown for me At the Lincoln Memorial Warfighting Memorial. So I'M GONNA carry those flags with me From yeah everyone in my attack now are every time I go. I'm going to put that my pack and carry that with me and bring bring rocks down. my kids of my kids are amazing. I've got a seven year old daughter Kendall. My son is nine trace and my daughter Madison is. She turned seventeen so I always bring them rocks back They're just amazed by Um you find rocks or a couple of hundred thousand years old. I don't know I think it's pretty amazing. That's it's pretty cool to see those things and now the big. The big thing is which is Kilimanjaro. I don't want to dwell on this guy's struggles like we've done in the past and like you just mentioned with Jan Michael Vincent Valdez when it comes to PTSD and even Robbie says the same thing. Don't dwell on negative. Think about the positive and try to turn everything as happy as you possibly can cause you go down a dark corridor but he has a lot of great stuff to say about this trip. I mean it does take roughly five days Ness just climbing up and down. There's travel aval ahead in travel at the end. There's acclimation involved so I asked him. Just tell us about the killing jar trip. I'll see every day. There's a there's a camp you you go to so depending on the route there's you know a bunch of routes you can go on on Kilimanjaro. We picked the wrong guy route to it's called R. O. N. G. Y.. Rongai yeah something like that may be incorrect but yes wrong guy and So it's yeah it's supposed to be six days up and two days down and then we know we're going to fly day of like basically rest and then back to states so we lost day of acclamation because of the bags so we went went up and made it up to five and a half days so like I said every day. There's a there's a camp that you're going to go to camp that you go to. There's a sign since you get two. It'll tell tell you how far the next camp is and whatnot see us you can only go so far as a way so so there. You're not walking fast at all. You're actually walking what they call. Apollo Poli Sci fi healey. That means slow slow. So you're walking to super slow this guy that actually let us up the mountain. For the five days he was in his mid the seventy s seventy years old. And so you know you're walking by just got at seventy Just super super slow. And it's kind of aggravating at first risk because you know you're wondering why you're walking so slow and it's ridiculous but it's very necessary. It's necessary to climb up Kilimanjaro. You can't walk fast so to slice. The whole. Mount Kilimanjaro. Chip right all right so you obviously arrived there and you first of all. You're not not in normal international airport. So you acclimate immediately. To the culture the heat the movement the people the porters orders and and you don't just get off the plane and hop on a cool ass shuttle and head to a really neat hotel resort. No you bus in you. Do you. Immediately start consuming the food there and your body your stomach your psyche. Everything needs to adjust in if it doesn't do it properly. Then yeah you're GONNA be screwed foodwise interesting yes you eat the for the local food that the port is providing you but you bring snacks you bring comfort food things that are going to set you back you get you get your zen back and maybe provide a nice nice pooper so to get you get you fiber Firoz exactly I love Yams or Green Bean casserole creeping castle in in a in a power bar. uh-huh Robbie talked about quite quite a lot about just just meeting the people again If you read enough or looked enough into into things like High elevation climbing and I'm talking about foreign camping climbing Mount Everest. Things like that. The cult sherpas there whereas in Kilimanjaro. The call Porter's these people. They work hard. They have a great attitude food. They bust their asses for very little money but this is their job they they know how to carry stuff they know how to set stuff up yet. Ah At the same time. They're not going to be wearing the latest ghost. whisperer puffy jacket from mountain hardware in all the other stuff that you can lay up and from your local outdoor gear company. But that's it that's what they do. So you respect that you honor that you your tip them you you get to know them. They are absolutely there because they really WanNa know who who you are and in his great to understand that culture in in and just absorb absorb yourself in that moment one of the things. I did. Read about Mount Kilimanjaro. You go through these temperate zones you go through through. These is one of the vote. More unique Summits on in the world is. You're going through a subtropical tropical sub Arctic to Arctic. You eventually go from foliage that you won't see five thousand feet up from there because again. You're at the equator in your in a Sahara Savannah kind of of temperate zone yet. You Cross over that you pass through an into the you know the elevation where trees become a non non existent and then lava rock dominates the landscape a lot of loose scree Talks about people flying down from the summit down this path. Because that's that's how they get up and come down in its in its provides you a a pretty slick and quick ascent an and descent. Well actually a cent would be very difficult because you take two steps you take you slide down three almost no thank you. Yeah I think I had enough enough on Mount Shasta exactly and shafter would be our most local mountain that kind of probably mimics a little bit of the landscape that you would see the on Kilimanjaro. But there's I think at least two or three ways to get up Kilimanjaro. There's the direct route which is just as scenic but there's also a circumventing lot of switch backs that will get you the summit as well in more of those that need more time to acclimate eight so once you get to the summit I mean this is what he this is what he had to say about that experience of spending days in of course initially initially when you leave a camp hours to get to that some then what happens the some day we had to step off at midnight so we had are like West Kneel at like eleven o'clock at night was more like breakfast so we got up to like ten ate breakfast at eleven o'clock at night and then stepped off at midnight Yeah yeah man it's we. We gained forty. Four hundred feet took a seven hours. Twenty minutes I mean it's just straight up It's pretty intense. I mean it was. I think the hardest thing I've done. I don't see outside the military but it's very hard. I mean very hard I mean you're congress straight up. It's very dark. There's no wind breaks. There's no there's no stopping points. There's no rest areas it's you and your team and it's just just switch back to so just looks like a big a bunch of Z's you know just sideways wants across the mountain because you can't walk straight up. I mean you can literally stand dancing side of it and and you know put out your arm and touch it. I mean it's right there. There's no way you could walk straight up since so you have to walk you know sideways of paths. What's so takes forever? So he sees headlamps and the person in front of you. You have to. You have to have a headline bought See we had headlamps on stepped off. And you're walking really really slow and I mean I had altitude sickness. Hit me like a ton of bricks. I mean you know like you said I kind of had a mild headache the entire time and I did take diamox. Last Day. I sold my pride. I did take dialogues. which is like A? I don't know to toews posted. Make you feel better. It didn't See I is this makes you body. Just start throwing up. I mean there's nothing you can do about it and tell you can drink water but again you're eighteen thousand feet Not On ground level you know so up at eighteen thousand feet you have your breathing in about half the oxygen that you're breathing and right now I mean. Do you have less less less oxygen every breath taking have right now so it's not like you're you know you're comfortable you're right. I mean I was stranded in the middle of nowhere on the side of a mountain. Just dry heaving. I mean. It wasn't going to quit but I mean that's the point where they're thinking thinking like. Is this where people die from throwing up but from you know avoiding to recognize that you know you're you're experiencing this so it put me down like twice or stop. I did stop physically. Made me stop and go to my knees but Overcame that drink some water under. I mean everybody kind of went through that everybody had their own little battles going up and then yeah daylight broke and you can kind of started to see daylight broke once we got up over like the the biggest part of the mountain part of it like there's a big bowl that goes over the todd's volcano so it's you get over this big lip. Stella point wait this is what it's called that's what it was daylight and you can see Weiner above the clouds anyway so it looks like the ocean out there because it's just all clouds everywhere which you can see Moshi town lights emotion town. It's like it's like five miles away like directly like direct line five miles away. It's pretty cool to see and yeah we got to the top. It was packed as a lot of people up there. I couldn't believe the amount of people that were up there Yeah I mean like I said. There's a bunch of route. So they all intersect the very end that set at Gilman's point and itself point is what a intersect restart seeing a lot more traffic because there are that we took was the. It's it's more scenic route. Let's we wanted it. I mean they have like a day route where he can just climb straight up but we took a scenic route to do it and Yeah it was took five days to get up there and then once we got there took us about seven and a half hours to climb up. We're up there for about thirty minutes. Took her pictures. And we climbed seven hours back down and then Yeah that was that. Was it from climbing over teammates. Every every single person made it which is is great. You know they say nobody ever makes it when they get a group of five that come that using your one or two you know will will not make it every time Cheltenham it's made it out was great We got a good picture with our guides in there. Too and Get walked back down to walk down. socked I'll tell you walk down worse to me than the walk up because it's almost like a knee high like sand like rocky sand. It's not like hard surface the jolt of just walking down. You don't walk down and your switchback you can. Just there's a path that goes straight down like if you had a boogie board or a search shirt for something like that it would be. You could ride down that way which there's people that ride bikes down. This is just one aspect of warriors. Keep we're not going to hinge pin everything. On Mount Kilimanjaro. They offer tons more things you can get involved in. Not Every single warrior veteran is going to be like. Oh Yeah when Climbing Nineteen Thousand Foot Mountain Trust Trust me. It's just not going to happen. But there are people in this in some cases like Robbie who also catch the bug and they just want to do it more but but great great thing out of out of Texas amazing opportunity for people like Robbie in those who've gone before him His his battle battle team that that did in last year to do it. I think it's just amazing and I think it's great because it's it's therapy therapy for the mind and the body to be able to do something not just sitting around not just thinking about stuff and I think I think more is keeping cheapest something something special here the Freedom Freak Twenty twenty program we WANNA be nationwide. We have people that are from the United States for just right now. We're we're just for small and so we're just doing some good steady growth which is good We're growing slow and so are in game is to be able to to get like you just said man to get this legislation if they need to use us. Statistics entrust me we keep. We keep all the dynamics of all of our participants we we keep Numbers of all that stuff and of incidents like to do is to work with doctors and to get some kind of solution or some kind of formula that to help. These people ought to help me out to help us sell your find us on our Social Media The warriors keep dot org is our website and yeah we're on facebook And on Instagram's well you're listening to life than sixteen ounces. What's in your pint? What's in mine is Mountains and get and the worst people here sanctioned just lives and change lives L. Salonika and thank you twelve our guests. It's who were kind and brave enough to step in front of the microphone and share. What's in their pint? If you have a story like this or know someone who does please let us know because we are in need of an excuse to drink a pint because you know what that beer's not going to drink itself and if it does then you might might wanna check with uncle Larry or aunt marge who always seem to drink a little too much during the holidays if you know what I'm talking about well it looks like we are approaching last call. Shut up here is another installment of beer buzz. The game show that rates are are featured brew. Let's begin all right so now that we've had a few gulps of the four beers we're going. Let's pretend that we are beer. Judge Competition on petition certified. Now there's quite a few categories and we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA sort of wrap them up. I want you as the contestant brands to talk a little about aroma appearance. It's flavor and mouth feel and ultimately give us your overall impression. Okay coppee she got it all right. So let's just go with the first beer which is stellar twas midnight logger premium. Dark lager at five point four percent. Here we go. Our brain is going to get a little will spiel here. Oh my oh sorry. That's too much all right. No it is dark. It is a very dark ale at Yes monger lager not not a nail very dark. There's the appearance so smell it and all that good so Stella Artois we L. Know that they make their lager. It's very very visual. You can see it could marketing. I mean Matt. Damon is part of their marketing department. But yes it's it's almost everywhere and it's certainly a okay. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA throw out the fact that I think I think it's one of those Lesser Beers to choose news from from the beer menu on whenever you visit someplace. Yeah the smell is not that bad it. I think it smells Nice. I've done and that's about as far as I'll go with that folks Jim role you know the first The first time that this hit my lips I had I had already made up my mind. The second tasting though in May into maybe because we've had so many different beers at this point. It's fairly standard. I don't know that it's something that I would have regularly. I think that I don't know in my mind I wouldn't give this a very high rating and I hate saying that because this would be the first time that we have been and given a beer in my for me anyway a high rating I wouldn't normally have not chosen anything star Twat because I think they're mass produced but I do like their beer as a secondary tertiary choice to what I I might find at a restaurant a bar or some other random location like airport but the fact that it declared it was a limited release. It had this special look to it again. Good marketing whatever. Midnight dark lager. Fine to me though. I'll throw this out there. There lager this. Is it cloaked in darkness. I think overall if if you are a fan of Stella you're gonNA taste that in the in the in the dark they have here. There's a little more body to it. Maybe a couple of Carmel notes but for the most part I mean. It's it's a stella so I mean if you if you don't want to be able to see through your beer and you you still want to Stella by all means I would. You could choose this ice. I like that description and I'm sorry folks. We didn't port all the way to the top where we could take a knife and shaven off. which by the way Mrs Cringe? Shoot the head off all right wonderful. Thank you very much back to my my show notes. Okay let's bring in the second contestant on the beer is right and that would be anchor Kerr brewing porter. Sarah Cisco five point six percent. Are you ready yes please perfect. You tilt your glass a little bit so I can not give you so much foam appearance again very dark mark. You're not really going to go wrong with anything that that anchor steam puts out all anchor anchor anchor okay. I did the same thing I thought. Anger steams known not called anchor steam anchor their flagship beer. That everybody but he knows is anchor anchor steam xactly all right well the anchor porter very nice Subtle notes of your chocolate clip. Your toffee your coffee. No No Yeah there's a little bit coffee I didn't I know I didn't get the cough. No I did did not and that's why I liked it. I don't like anything with coffee. Well that's again very subtle if you like anchor steam you want something a little darker darker little more again. Lower Body Brinda. These cold colder months. Seventy seven degrees right now son son of a biscuit. Yeah not KNOB ED. I would I would put the six pack into my fridge during the colder months to go head into to drink this up. This is a very traditional porter to me very nice. Okay thank you very much. A beer number two all right next on the beer is right. Beer Buzz we have Samuel Smith's winter welcome hail at six per percent. See a little bit of the English actually tries to turn Brandon's taste. Buds into something tilt built tilt the clashes lazy filter right drum roll. Uh Samuel Smith. I can't say this enough about companies they don't Travel too far from their flagships Samuel. Smith's flagship would be there oatmeal. Stout this beer. Yeah I would. That's fine. They have a wheat. We have a nut brown ale which is by but I would consider flagship. Really Nut Brownell. Oh yes they have pails and I. I love their Apricot Apple Cup. I could walk into us into to a store or a produce section or fruit. Stand in one hundred out of one hundred times. I would never leave there without with April cotton in my hand because I know it. I don't want it but dammit I love their Abra got well. I like apricots beer but certainly not together. So I'm just like my my root beer floats. I'll take them separate this winter. Welcome Ale does it does it. Welcome to winter enter. It does I actually think that it's very similar to something that we've had before which would be the we heavy. That's kind of what I'm getting from. Different notes. Yeah if you're not a Scottish beer making company and you WanNa make a beer. That's for the winter that warms your ballet. I think you're pretty spot on their buddy and lots of notes on this thing. There's a lot of spices to me. There's a reason why they put it in a four pack. I don't think that I would want to have a six pack of this Six percent I agree. There's there's some IMF behind it and it does say by the way that you should have this with nuances and complexities that. Oh you should contemplate before an open fire which by the way. We're not allowed to have here in California because a lot of fireworks actions because we haven't had rain in like munt awesome but it's okay. I'm not bitter about it not I'm not I'm not I the You I will give two thumbs up to Samuel. Smith's shot out to to my home region of Yorkshire England. Okay contestant number four. was that quattro. We're ready for the big. I mean we're jumping up from six percent all the way to nine point eight percent. That's quite a jump. I will tell you this high water burry pop the pop the top and I smelled the opening again in. It's still emanates. Massive amounts of UH maple and P. Con if you are a fan of the smallest. It's a sports doubt that they put out right. Yes so high waterbury has has the I would consider is their flagships because distributed more than anything. It's a campfire stout. That's the one I if you they do have a white did you ever read Hale and then a hop riot in in a Scottish we heavy but yeah ooh campfire. Stout is the one that I typically see the most. This beer beer company puts so much flavor and time and effort into everything that they put out. You are not going to go wrong with this beer at all. It's if you're into that right if you're into that kind of like it looks beautiful. Yeah it's the smell. Is there anything you can barely see through it yet. Anybody who's crazy about the aroma. This is this is screams tons of Carmel notes. Notes Dan Pecans and and all those things. Go into Indiana this one like a like what we did last episode with the the two hundred pounds of Pumpkin meet. I'm curious how much how much peak cons and stuff that they put into this bad boy. I'm not normally pecan Fan. Not Let me but this is definitely a beer that I have to of at nine percent in and then defined. Yeah for the rest of the night you had the people that visit Thanksgiving dinner and say hey. Let's have a shot of this or you're talking about right after desert right. Well no some of the People WanNa drink throughout the Thanksgiving and they want to infuse their coke or whatever they want to do and I'm talking about the drink we know the cartel family drama stars L.. Kuopio you might that one away void alcohol altogether if there's issues that you've had throughout the year that's the problem. Nobody does they. They're like oh so and so is going to be here. I'm drinking assumes I get there yeah who's driving me home. Speaking to drive me home. That would be another cars reference. Who's GonNa drive you home? Who is this is quite good and sugary? So yeah I think that might be so aroma appearance flavour mouth feel overall overall impression. I'll tell you it's interesting as we get further into our episodes and finding out exactly what seasonal tastes we. The in joy and Thanksgiving certainly has been an interesting one as we get closer and closer to putting more food. Dr King Gaining weight slowly that we have have to work five hundred times harder. Just bird off all right. Hey try this out with your friends around brewery and a flight go to some of these places These these brands that we were mentioning certainly anchor and high water. Check him out There the lights and it's closing time another upsetting moment. I I don't like when our time together and I'm really thankful that you're here and I love it. I love recording eating these episodes. It's really fine. We'll throw out another if anybody wants to come to a recording of our show. Come on in and it's quite good. Plus yes we need somebody else to drink all this beer. Gosh because I will tell you this. I've never left a beer glass empty. No I've never thrown away a beer. You've never do that. Never thing. Is Poor. Sportsmanship people worked their asses often. We hope you have enjoyed our Thanksgiving themed show. Yes and you can support us by visiting life in in sixteen ounces dot com and subscribing wherever you get your podcasts from WanNa see what happens between shows well click on our plethora off of social media sites linked on our website. Spread the news guys. 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