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Episode #3: Dodge Challenger 50th Anniversary & What's a Mopar?

Talking Mopars

37:47 min | 1 year ago

Episode #3: Dodge Challenger 50th Anniversary & What's a Mopar?

"Welcome to episode number three of talking Mo- pars on today's episode. We're going to talk about what a Mo- par is. We're talking mopeds got its name the Challenger turning fifty a little whoopsie see daisy mistake on the assembly line. Another awesome listener story project car of the week. And we're GONNA take a look back at the nineteen seventy dodge challenger. We've kicked the tires hires. Now let's like the fires. I'm your host Chris. Albrecht better known as the Mo par hunter and this is talking and You're listening to talking. Parts with the MOCHA hunter. Your direct connection to all things Mo- park. We are turning and burning here on episode number three of talking mopeds. And let's get right into it. What is a MO- par? I realized that not everybody who listens to this show is actually a Mo- part is easiest. You know we've got we've got some creepers. We've got four guys. Chevy guys import guys. This podcast had cast is for everybody. And I want to bring you into the Mo par fold if you aren't already if you're not familiar with Mo Pars and what the the word moped actually means. Let me fill you in. Mo- par is a combination of the words motor and parts. It was first used in the nineteen twenties and in nineteen thirty seven would be used for the first time on actual products starting with cans of antifreeze it evolved into a term of endearment used by moped enthusiasts to describe cars. That fell under the Chrysler umbrella. So think Chrysler Dodge Plymouth. AMC Jeep Ram trucks and now Fiat. What and the brands associated with the Mo par now is a registered trademark used by FCA as a resource for covering parts accessories service and warranties? So you're going to go to the dealership and you're GONNA C mo par service you know Mo- park centuries and things like that as it relates to this podcast for the most part mope ars gonNA refer just to the the generality of the cars so when I say I'm talking about Dodge Plymouth. Chrysler Jeep Ram all those. But it's important that I explain to people that are outside the Mo par world like your Chevy Ford guys. You're import guys that you know you're here now. Let's learn a little bit. You know if you keep listening to this podcast. I promise you you're GonNa learn some stuff and you're gonNA probably figure out that a Mo- par pretty cool. You know. Maybe you came here because you hate mo par and you're like let me see what this jerks all about. Let me see what he's talking about and you're here now and you're like it doesn't sound like a bad guy and you're hearing a couple of cool things and you're like Oh that's kind of interesting you know if you if you listen to this podcast and you've said to yourself. Oh that's kind of interesting. Gotcha Gotcha so go ahead and put that Chevy that Ford that import up for sale and start looking for a Mo- par. Let's shift gears here a little bit. Let's talk about something that I've been meaning to talk about and I really haven't had a chance to get to it. So let's talk about it right now the name talking Mo- Parse so when I decided that you know maybe I should do a podcast. This was about a year ago. That's when I really started considering because before that it was like Oh that would be kind of fun but I never really took it seriously until about a year ago so I started thinking about. You know what I wanted the show to be what it was four and what I what I really wanted wanted to develop it into. I tossed around some names. Direct connections a segment or an addition of this show was actually the the original name that I had come up with along with hustle. Stuff I was GONNA. I had hustle stuff podcast. I was running through some names in my head. It and I thought if people look up or C mo par podcast. They might just brush over something that says the hustle stuff podcast because maybe they're not familiar with the the term hustle stuff and how it relates to Mow Pars from back in the day and with direct connections. I know that people do associate direct connection with Mojo. But you know maybe somebody he knew wouldn't necessarily understand the reference so I was like I need a name. That's general enough. Where if somebody was just glancing through and they saw the name of the podcast August they go? Oh I know exactly what that's about because it's in the name so when you see talking mopeds you go one. You're not going to say what's that podcast about. Hey we're talking talking more cars simple so I had the name. I started looking into buying a domain. Basically getting the plan together for are executing the launch of the podcast. And I like I said on couple episodes ago I am podcast fan. I listened to a lot of podcast especially Komodo podcasts and it was almost like fate because at the time I was developing the idea for this podcast I wanted to hear what other people Komo Park community. We're talking about On these episodes and I found out that uncle Tony Fail. I don't know if you know who punk Tony Is. But he runs. Hey page on facebook called Uncle Tony's garage and he's got a youtube channel. His content is awesome awesome. I think Tony is hilarious. He is funny and I've been watching videos for a long time but I never knew he had a podcast so when I found out he had a podcast. I listened and and I enjoyed it a lot. Because he was talking about mope bars naturally I was like finally. Somebody's talking about a lot cool and then in the back of my mind I was like well that kind of defeats the purpose abyss of me. Doing a podcast. Because I didn't realize there was already a podcast out there about Mo- parks on one hand. I was a little bummed out on the other hand like sweet. I can save myself a bunch of work and just listen to his podcast so as I was listening he mentioned that he was GonNa do a podcast with Dave Ray from DB restorations formerly of graveyard cars and they were gonNA call it talking moped. You're talking mopeds and I was crushed. I was crushed because I thought oh well there goes that idea even if I wanted to start it has to come up with a completely different name and when I get my sights set on something you know I'm committed. I was really bummed that I couldn't use the name anymore but I kept listening and I was like all right. Let's just listen to see what it's all about. Well that podcast never came because Tony decided that his audience was better suited for Youtube so he actually stopped doing the podcast cast which opened the door for myself so I actually reached out to Tony and I asked him if it would be okay since I was gonNA start a podcast if I could use the name that he originally intended to us with his podcast with Dave Ray and he actually gave me his blessing so uncle Tony. Thank you very much watch for all of you listening out there if you like to watch youtube videos if you're on facebook and you see videos pop up. Give uncle Tony a chance. This guy is hilarious. And he's super knowledgeable. He knows so much about Mo- pars far more than I know so. He's a great resource. If you WANNA watch some videos in you you know. Get get a chuckle or laugh. You can look them up at Uncle Tony's garage on Youtube and facebook so go give him a follow subscribe like his content. He's a good guy. You know I do. Thank him very much for allowing me to use the name. Because I'm not a jerk. I wouldn't take the name you know without consulting being him about it I because if he would have said I may that may be a project I wanNA work on in the future I would have moved on and I don't know if this podcast would exist if I hadn't been given the green light so once again. Thank you uncle Tony. Let's switch gears here and talk about a new challenger that was recently unveiled. So as you know in nineteen seventy a new model for dodge came out and that was the dodge challenger it changed the game and now we're we're quickly approaching two thousand twenty and now the dodge challenger is turning fifty so dodgers releasing the Challenger Fiftieth Anniversary Edition. This car is what enthusiasts love to see from dodge a really shows the dodgers embracing the enthusiast culture. The challenge is only gonNA turn fifty wants so. This car is going to be highly collectible if I was you and I had the money I would go out and order one now. So let's break down the car a a little bit. The Fiftieth Anniversary edition of the Dodge Challenger is gonNA come in seven colors including four new colors those new colors gold rush frostbite. Hell Raisin and cinnamon stick the wheels and badging will be gold school finished which is like gold. Chrome the Shaker scoop on these cars will. We'll be body colored which is pretty cool. You'RE GONNA have fiftieth anniversary. Edition badges all over the car. Designating it as the fiftieth anniversary special edition and they're all GonNa be in that Gold School Hugh that I was just talking about. They're all going to have a satin black hood and that is going to be painted but the roof and the deck LID will be wrapped inside sat and black interior accent stitching on leather seats with Suede inserts with fifty embroidered them. There's going to be real carbon-fiber accents on the interior with white gauges that have yellow yellow accents. A total of one thousand nine hundred and sixty of these cars are going to be produced seventy in each color and all four trim packages these packages are gonNA start at four thousand nine hundred ninety five dollars for the lowest trim up to five thousand nine hundred ninety five dollars for the highest trim. Now keep in mind the challenger will never turn fifty again. Like I said these are going to be highly collectible ordering for these cars starts in December or spring shipment so get your local dealer and order today you know these are going to get ordered up really quick and you're probably gonNA see some on Ebay for exuberant amount of money. You know there are some people out there that see these types of cars in the GAW to chain and they go and buy these cars and then next thing you know they're on Ebay for double double the price or something ridiculous so if you really want one of these and you have the ability to get one go to the dodge dealer and order one today that way you have if I and you can be the first owner of a fiftieth anniversary edition Dodge Challenger switching gears again recently the NHTSA the National National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued a recall for one hundred seventy three dodge vehicles manufactured between the end of May and September of two thousand nineteen. These include sixty st to dodge challengers and one hundred eleven. Dodge chargers built with an incompatible front wheel and brake package. The package just does not allow adequate tire clearance and has the potential to cause rubbing of the inner sidewall of the tire and a steering knuckles so dealers and owners will be notified around December thirteenth. To get that fixed. What what a whoopsie daisy you know whoopsie daisy? Let's get that fixed because this is not a good look. I'm glad that I was is not on the production line when that happened. Because I don't know if it's quality control. I don't know if it's recreational use of marijuana in Canada did I say that Oh sorry I'm just kidding. Dodge is going to get this fixed. You're going to be taken care of. And if you own one of these vehicles you will be notified so sit tight. We'll get you. We all patched up and back on the road it's time to shift gears once again on the show and we're GONNA go ahead and get into the listener story of the week. This story comes from Andy Tans. Andy shared this story with me about the Bristol. speedway super bird and I think it's a fun story. So let's get right into it back in nineteen eighty nine. I was working at a restoration slash flipper shop in canton Georgia. One day we received the original Bristol speedway super from an auction after tuning it up. It needed a test drive so for lunch. Five of US jumped in the Super Bird and took off towards commerce. Once we got on I seventy five. Steve decided to jump on the bird. Got It up to one hundred intent fairly quickly than the weaving started and things started getting scary real fast doing around one hundred miles per hour. The car literally walked across a full lane before Steve decided to slow it down on Steve tried to turn around on the freeway. He pulled into a pile of mud and we started bog down so he Florida all week here was clods of mud bouncing off the cars we slowly got the car turned around and headed back to the shop. Stop when we got back to the shop. The bird like a jeep that had been in the swamp it was pretty nasty after we sprayed it down. Steve looked at the front end and found. The driver's side stabiliser link link was gone and the torsion bars were cranked almost as far as they could go. Needless to say the front end was shot on the car. The owner never knew about this catastrophe. I believe he sold sold it the following week. That's what we call an almost quick trip to the unemployment line. What a story that could have ended a lot worse? Let's be honest. Wow I was really entertained by the story because I could relate to andy because if I had the opportunity I probably would have done the same thing only my luck. Probably I probably would Iraq the thing and not only would I have been looking for a tow truck in the phone book but I would have been looking for a new job as well because I probably would have been fired. Let's drop a gear and disappear as we shift gears into project car of the week. Take this week's project car. I thought was reasonably priced with room for negotiation and runs and drives. That's always good if you ask me when I look at project cars a very big selling point to me is running and driving. Because I don't know how about you but when I buy a project car if I can't drive home there is a little bit of. How can I put at this in my head? I'm like God I really wish I coulda drove this thing home. I would've made this experience so much better but there is also the side that like when I bought my sixty nine dodge dart and I told at home I remember looking in the rear view mirror and seeing it on the trailer and I remember thinking God. Can we drive. The thing can't wait. It's been four years but that's okay. That's story for a different time. This road runner to me is a great foundation for somebody that wants to get into a project but wants to be able to enjoy it at the same time. I'm looking at the car and thinking to myself if I could get this thing for twelve thousand thirteen one thousand. That's deal to me anything. Anything under twenty grand these days for something running and driving that to me is a good the deal. I know that sounds crazy. It sounds crazy coming out of my mouth. I think it sounds crazy but I I've seen thousands of these cars and I know the prices aren't getting cheaper. I mentioned mentioned before. So if you can get into one of these for less than twenty thousand dollars running and driving I think that depending on the car of course you know because there are some dropbox out there that run and drive. Don't ask me how but I think that it's a decent by you know because as I've said this before I don't need a car. That is a show car. I just want something fun for me to drive. I don't need people to Polish my knob when I go get gas telling me how beautiful the car is. I just WANNA I just WANNA be happy behind the wheel. That's all I care about so with this car. I see a lot of potential here. It's it's a seventy great year for the road runner. It's running and driving. It's got a big block in it. You own it. I don't see Vin number or offender tag or anything in in these pictures but I'm going to go ahead and assume that it is a real. Ram Car the car looks like it has good bones if it runs and drives send it send it you know what I mean. It looks like a good start to a project because you can drive it and enjoy it while you're going through it that's fun to me. That's fun I would love to get this car. So if this guy's listening to this podcast. Hey Chris at talking mopus Dot com away as its numbers matching right. What's not oh the original all? It's been repainted. Oh Okay who looked. ooh We're going to need some learning some some frame rails who who trunk who who headliners fallen down oop You know after looking at it after getting closer look thinking more like nine. Yeah Yeah maybe Do you think the single single make it home. I kind of drive all the way back to Washington. You know what I mean. You'll probably safer if I- trailer and it caused a little bit of money to Uh Oh I see the all the floor pan. Oh Man. The floor PAN needs to be changed to Yeah Yeah it looks like this thing is not original not a survivor Not a barn fine I'll give you two thousand. That was a joke. Folks a lot of people what they do when they go to look at these cars is they star bashing the car not a good way to go about things look the seller is not your enemy and it does you know good to beat up on a car you know to try to knock the price down. I think here's a tip if you're going to look at a car think of the seller as your friend. Okay because guess what no enemy will ever give you a good deal but if you go you approach the seller. You're in a nice way or respectable way. I was just talking about that on social media with somebody where you have to. There has to be a mutual respect between tween a buyer and a seller regardless of car regardless of price. Now Hey if you don't want to be respectful. Don't even go look at the car because guess what if you come to me if I'm so in a car and you come to me Eh. Disrespectful you're not getting anywhere especially in the car I'm selling so approach with an open mind. Signed be respectable. You know. Be Respectful. And you'RE GONNA get a lot farther that way if you want a better deal on the car. Here's where my opinion gets a little foggy because I do think it's important to start low and then work your way up. I always like to promote having a number in your mind off I call it a hard out. You need a hard out like if this car. Sixteen thousand thousand and I only want to pay. Let's just say nine thousand right. That's seven thousand dollars in negotiation. It's going to take awhile while you can't just go up there and just chop the guy in half right away. You gotta look at the car. I like to gauge the seller. A little bit like what you really want to get out of the car. You know say the Guy Wants Sixteen thousand and you know he goes I really you know masking sixteen. There's a little wiggle room. I could probably take fifteen thousand and in your mind you have nine thousand dollars in your pocket so this is where things get interesting. You're going to have to figure out a way to get him to come down a lot farther now. This doesn't always work out. You know when you're trying trying to chop a guy in half that's a big reach. Maybe you know this doesn't work every time but it works some of the time I've bought like like my little d one hundred. I chop the guy in half with his price and I drove it home. That was that was a kind kind of a tough negotiation but not really told him flat out look. This is what I got. I'm willing to come look at it but I don't want to waste your time. I don't WanNa waste my time so if this isn't even there's number is something that you wouldn't even entertain the notion even come out and he said come out sells like ooh Gotcha but That deal was actually really good because I said I have this amount of money but I'm only buying it if I can drive it home so it worked out for me and it worked out for the seller. Because he was done with it and you know I was ready to buy it because I really liked it. And I'll talk more about my project truck. My little seventy sixty one hundred on a future episode but getting getting back to this road runner and buying and selling project cars you see negotiations on TV. I don't need to name the person who does this negotiating because it happens. A lot of a lot of these reality shows they show these unrealistic negotiations. I question how much editing is really involved in in these shows. Because I've never seen anybody make deals like that in real life as far as walking up going. Oh you want twenty grand I'll give you two and then the guy goes no no way. You can't do that. And then they end up negotiating three thousand so okay. Where does that happen at twenty to move to Texas assess Tornado moved to Dallas anyways? There is a right way and a wrong way to negotiate and I. I think if you just explained to the cellar where you're coming from and your respectful. You're going to get a lot farther. You might not get it for the price you want. But it's also okay to walk away from a car and here's another tip if you don't end up coming to terms with a deal if you don't come to a good deal mutually beneficial then it's okay to bring. I always say make business cards. Make business cards with your name and number right the date and your offer on this card and hand it to the guy because you never know how many people are going to try to come out and by the car if you leave and he gets three more people and they're chopping worse than you did. You might go okay. Three out of the four people that came out and looked at this car offered less than that fourth guy and I have his card in my hand. I'm going to give them a call in you know what apparently overvalued the car I'm GONNA go ahead and sell it to him for the better price so you have to look at things like that. Be Positive you know. Don't end things on a bad note especially if you want the car. If you're frustrated that the guy's not budging put your number on a business card like the number you WanNa buy four on a business card and give it to him. Let him sit. Sit on it and make sure it's not just up piece of junk business card makeup business card that stands out a little bit you know. So he won't forget you. That's the thing you gotta be memorable. These people folks. I realize that we've gone off the rails a little bit here. So let me just reiterate my tips tips. I have a hard out. Have the price in your mind. You're walkaway price. If you can't get to that walkaway a tip number to have a business card put all the information needed and give it to the seller. So that if they decide you know maybe that wasn't a bad offer after all they have your information and they can give you a callback number three. Be respectful nobody ever got a good deal from an an enemy so build that rapport build a friendship and be sincere. Don't be don't be fake about it you know. Just be respectful respectful and you know find common ground. Common ground is huge in sales. But I think this topic of buying hang in selling cars and tips and tricks. I think it's a standalone episode. So let's go ahead and stop here and continue this talk on a future episode. assode of talking Mo- pars for now. Let's go ahead and get back on the rails and switch gears and get ready to close. Is this baby out. And let's talk about you know earlier. We talked about the Fiftieth Anniversary Challenger. That's coming out in spring. I've always believed to know where you're headed. You GotTa know where you've been. So with the fiftieth anniversary the dodge challenger approaching fast. Let's take a look back at the fall of nineteen sixty nine. When Dodge introduced the Challenger for the Nineteen in seventy model year the Challenger was based on the new e body platform alongside with the Plymouth? Barracuda you're probably thinking hold on Mo par Hunter Old Don Chris. I thought the Barracuda was a body. It was until nineteen seventy when Chrysler Corporation introduced this new e body platform and the Plymouth Barracuda sat alongside the Challenger on that platform so although they had subtle differences. I mean I mean I guess suttles kind of there was a two inch difference in wheelbase the Challenger was actually a little bit longer than the Barracuda. And there's some other details okay. Look let me just explain this. The vehicles that are spotlighted on this podcast you know for some episodes. We're just peeling back. The top layer of these MO- pars. So you know. I'm not an encyclopedia and we don't have enough time to get that deep into this stuff. Okay I said I said that this podcast we would take take a weekly deep dive into the world of Mope ours but I didn't say what ended the pool. We're I mean we're dive and even in the shallow end okay. There's a deep end of this pool will and if you WANNA get down there you gotta do that on your own. Because I'm not a lifeguard. Okay so really. If you are interested in any of these cars go do some digging and research on your own really do the research I mean you could literally spend hours upon hours going over. All all the details of each model these cars. That's how many facets and like I think about I think about some cars and like I'll be doing research on something because I find it interesting and five hours later. I'm like Oh my God I still really. I'm still there's so much still left to learn so if I think that's a really fun for me I just don't have that much time. So if you're like me no just take it take it a little bit at a time and there's some guys out there and Gals I know there's girls out there that know more than me and that's fine. I like that. Come come on the show. Let's Talk Doc. You know what I mean but if you WANNA learn more just go out there and do the research. We're just covering the the basics here. I can't do all the work for you come on. Let's be realistic. But it's okay you go do that research you come on on the show and talk to me about the thirty eight hours. You did researching you know. Nineteen sixty seven. Barracuda's that's awesome. I'll talk to you all day about it. You teach me something okay. But let's get back on track here. We went off the rails again. You guys let me do this every time you let me get off the rails nobody says hey Chris Stoppers second. You're going out. How much caffeine have you had? Are you okay. I'm fine. I'm fine all right. Let's get back on topic. So the challenger was Jesuit. Dodge needed to come out swinging hanging in one thousand nine hundred seventy for the pony car wars. That were you know in my opinion starting to slow down a little bit but dodge said not so fast. We're not done yet. As as a matter of fact we're just getting started here. The challenger was a hit on the street and at the track. And not just the drag strip either nineteen seventy was the first year that dodge offered a TA package for their lineup. And you know that we like some. Ta Relax people get your minds out of the gutter. I'm talking about the Trans Am series the SEC a transam series. The Sports Car Club of America had a trans am racing series and in order to be Dodge had to create a certain amount of cars that fit the criteria for that class of racing. Okay maybe I maybe a little bit off on these details but I mean who's paying attention really so let's get serious again. Dodge offered this. Ta Package in the TA. Package was like I said a Package for entry into transam racing but it was also available. It had to be a model available for the street. You know. And it was de Itunes and Gosh you know I'm going off the top of my head here and I'm thinking about these details and I'm like I could do a whole episode just on the Ta Challengers the AARP. We are Kudos. So I guess I'm just GonNa Skim the surface here a little bit so the. Ta Package was just one of many different variations of the challenge. Or One could get in. Nineteen seventy I will say that it was the only challenger that you get with three forty six pack okay and when I say six pack I don't know how much you know about Mo- parts you know we're still getting to know each other here so I'm just gonNA pretend like you don't notice six packs a six pack were just talking about three two barrel carburetors he following or lost yep no no yeah yeah it's just like the try power yet. Yeah Yeah Okay. So you fall are Okay let me talk another interesting detail. Is that the Challenger. Ta alongside with Barracuda a our model. was that it was one of the first American cars to have staggered Eggert tires with e sixty fifteens in the front and g sixty fifteen's outback. That's cool the challenges could also be ordered edge it in several pack. I mean Gosh here we go again. We're going off the rails again folks. Don't say I didn't warn you so there was so many different ways you could build one of these cars. If you walked into a dealership you know and you're like Kinda WanNa let me just order one of these. I mean I couldn't imagine what it would be like ordering one of these cars because there's so many different I mean you've got the base model our team model. SE RT SE. Challenge your deputy. You could give convertible you know not all packages were available convertibles. You could not get ta convertible. I'll just say that. Gosh my brain right now just thinking about this. Because I'm like Gosh I don't know if I can cover all this this and I'm not intending to cover all of it but I'm like you know what's the most important things that I can cover about this car Okay here so as far as engines go you know. Take your pick. What do you want you get everything from the tried and true slant six all the way up to the elephant the four twenty six cubic inch Hemi As a new home on here we go off the rails again. Doesn't it does sound cool to say heavy rain. Sometimes it's like you know if you say you know someone goes. Hey what kind of engine you got. Nothing what's under the hood and you know it. It comes out tough like Oh yes just got a little heavy in it and like even in that commercial the dumb commercial commercial I gotTa Hammy Yeah. Yeah it's gotTa have me as I'm being I'm being stupid so so you okay where were we. Oh yeah slant six all the way up to the hamming you got options people you got you got options and like I said it was just a car that you really could have built to your specific needs. You could also look at doing it. Because in nineteen seventy there was some new high impact paint colors and those new hughes were are. How many were there? Let's see for nineteen seventy. This is nineteen seventy editions. Let's go F- Why one top Anna that's yellow F J A six Sassy Grass Green F J five sublime. FM Three Panther Pink. And I mean of course the infamous this FCC seven plum crazy Turn a thing in my head and my missing. I don't think I'm missing any. I'm sure there's somebody out there right now. I just beating their radio gone this guy. He doesn't know what he's talking about If I missed any please let me know I'm a little tired now now. It was it was early but I had to. I had to stop the podcast and go take care of some grocery shopping and I came back to record this last part the so. It's a little late here in good old Washington the wife and cater asleep. And I'm here staring at a computer screen anyways. Let's so off the rails so off the the rails that's okay. The Classic Challenger lasted until Nineteen Seventy four and that classic. Styling wouldn't reemerge until two thousand eight went dodge reintroduced induced the challenger. When Dodge came back out with the Challenger I was? Oh man like I'm reminiscing right now in my head I just remember I think it was motor trend magazine and I saw for the first time and I was like Oh my God. It was is one of the most beautiful cars as far as modern cars. Go that I've ever seen I think you know what I'm GonNa go ahead and say it was when the Challenger came back out it was the most beautiful modern ricard ever seen. Because that's how big of a fan I was of the nineteen seventies and just looking at the car was just like you know if you took a nineteen Seventy Dodge challenger New took a two thousand eight Dodge Challenger and you park them next to each other they were so the styling was dowd on. It was extremely reminiscent of the original but modernized and I would be confident in saying that as far as a modern muscle car renditions of classic muscle cars go dodge really hit the nail on the head with the modern challenger. And you know it's still going strong to this day. All the way into Twenty Twenty for the fiftieth anniversary. You know there's gotta be something said about that. You know good job jaw or a good job job job. Good job good job. Good Job Dodge. We're taking this baby home. I'm tired I'm going to bed tomorrow. Sunday Sunday. Let's close it out with saying that just over eighty three thousand nineteen seventy challengers were Were sold the Challenger remains lanes in American muscle car icon to this day. Okay Dow wraps up episode three. We did it folks that last. What was it towns? Years Seven minutes was rough. Actually I think it was more like ten minutes. Oh man that was a ten minute diatribe of me spewing moped stuff out of my mouth. I'm sorry I apologize. No why don't I don't apologize for anything. I'm unapologetic when it comes to my passion for MOPEDS. That's why I'm here talking to. You could be asleep so now that we've gone fully off the rails. Let me just say thank you once again to everybody for listening to the show. If you have any good Mo- par stories. Please send them in Shoreham with me and I will share them with the world on this podcast. Because guess what we've gone worldwide. What do you mean worldwide? Yes worldwide. Let me just name some countries here. Obviously America Canada Mexico Brazil Zil Germany Denmark Sweden Norway Australia New Zealand Trying to think of the other ones Holland Poland so the Netherlands I think that's it all. There's one guy in Antarctica. I think he was a streaming live. That's IT folks. Thank you for joining me on episode number three. I'm your host Chris Albrecht and that was talking Mo- Parse I thank you for listening to your direct connection to all things until next time remember. No more par left behind Yeah.

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The Murder of Angie Dodge

Murder Minute

23:36 min | 1 year ago

The Murder of Angie Dodge

"Welcome to murder minute today. You'll hear the story of Angie dodges murder and how it was finally solved but I your true crime headlines to San Francisco. Men have been arrested and charged urged with the New Year's Eve robbery and killing a thirty four year old software engineer. Sure Zang was doing work on his laptop in an Oakland starbucks around noon noon on New Year's Eve when the two men later identified as twenty one year old j Von Lee and twenty two year old Byron Reed stole the Computer Computer and attempted to flee and BMW SUV. Zang chase the men and was struck and killed by their vehicle as they drove away. Oakland police arrested the suspects reed. Who is accused of driving? The getaway car was charged with murder and is being held without bail while his Co conspirator Lee was charged with manslaughter and is being held on two hundred fifty thousand dollars bail. Both men were also so charged with robbery. A third man is being sought in connection with the crime a twenty year old Chicago. The woman was charged with two counts of first degree murder and one count of first degree attempted murder for a New Year's Day incident that left her grandfather seriously see wounded and both of her young sons dead. Police say that twenty year old Elliot. Newell was running a bath her children. When her seventy year old grandfather entered the room she began hitting and choking him before stabbing him repeatedly? She then stabbed her seven month old son Amir before putting him into the hot bath. Aftab with a faucet running she then picked up her two year old son John Tavis and threw him out the apartment window. Eleven stories above the ground moments later she also jumped out the window falling to the concrete below. Newell struck a window Washer scaffolding near the third floor more before hitting the ground and suffered a broken wrist and broken angle in the fall. Her two year old son. John Tavis suffered blunt force trauma and and multiple fractures to the head and was pronounced. Dead at the seen. Amir was found dead in the bathtub of the apartment blistered from the hot water. Newell's seventy year. Old Grandfather was injured but is expected to survive nor was diagnosed with a mood disorder after a previous suicide attempt. An appears to have sought help caring for children in the days before the attack. She remains hospitalized for injuries. She sustained during the incident and did not appear in court. The mother of a convicted killer has pleaded no contest to charges of perjury an accessory after the fact for lying to police about her role in helping her son to cover up his crimes. Thirty year. Old Jared chance was convicted last year. For the murder and dismemberment of Ashley Young. He is currently serving a one hundred to two hundred year sentence for the women's killing killing prosecutors alleged that chances parents assisted him with destroying evidence in the case and then lied to investigators about their last contact with their son with her no contest plea sixty four year. Old Barbara chance faces a maximum sentence of one year in prison her husband Afar Afar police. Sergeant is still awaiting trial. Those were your true crime headlines next. Stop the murder of Angie Dodge but first a quick break. Welcome back to murder minute it today. The murder of anti-age the last time Carol Dodge saw her daughter Angie. She hugged the eighteen year old. told her yes she would always be her baby and how much she loved her. cowl wrote about this on a memorial site honoring Angie's tragically short life at the time of her murder. Angie was just discovering who she was and had been feeling the stress of what we would today call adulting. She'd recently moved into her own apartment and traded her antiquated oldsmobile. She and her friends called the boat for a sleek new Chevy. It was the summer of Nineteen ninety-six the the same year. Google dotcom launched something. You could only access through dial up internet. It would take a while but advanced technology. She would eventually help. Authorize solve her murder. Angie Ray Dodge was born the youngest of four kids in Vancouver Washington toward the end of nineteen seventy seven completing the family. They moved to San Diego and then to Idaho falls where she attended grade school middle school and high school. While I'd hope falls isn't exactly a small town too many residents. It feels like one in the late nineties. The heavily Mormon community often left their doors unlocked and neighbors knew one another by name so when Angie vanished from her daily life it didn't go unnoticed when she didn't show up for work at a beauty salon. One of her colleagues stopped by her apartment to check on her behind the unlocked. Door she found Angie's half-naked body thirty on the floor amid a gruesome bloody crime scene local police chief Mark McBride responded to the nine one one call and told. CBS News that while there was no sign of forced entry. There were many indications of Struggle as she was attacked act stabbed with a knife. Fourteen Times Angie fought for her life. The killer sexually assaulted her to then he jackie late it on her body leaving leaving. Behind what DNA expert Greg Ham Piquionne called Pristine profile. He also left a bloody handprint on Angie stomach. The case should have been fairly open and shut given this DNA evidence which could identify the perpetrator certainty if they found a match. And that's precisely nicely. What police aimed for promptly connecting DNA samples from dozens of local men and questioning? Virtually every man who knew or had contact with Angie but some returned to fall and fall into winter without a prime suspect or arrest early the following year that changed police arrested and charged. Benjamin Hobbs a man from Idaho falls with sexual assault involving a knife in Nevada. Wondering if this wasn't wasn't his only or most insidious crime investigators questioned hobbs and some of his friends about Angie's case twenty year old Christopher tap hap. One of those friends. Both men were part of a group known as the river rats who hung out near Snake River. Which skirts around Idaho falls trails els? They lingered in far from an apartment and witnesses had spotted tap with Angie at a gathering the evening before murder detectives interviewed tap up once and then again a couple of days later that January at the first session taps for that neither he nor his friend. Hobbs were involved in Angie's death in in any way during the second he's at Hobbs Killed Angie and asked him to provide his alibi at another point. TAP said he'd been with hops that's when he murdered her. Why did you story change so many times? Such shifts definitely. Don't make a person look innocent. DNA testing did however ever tap was not a match for the semen found on Angie's body. Neither was hobbs even so investigators continued to press tap ordering multiple polygraph tests and taking him to the scene of the crime seemingly as a means of getting him to relive it at the month's end with with his fifth polygraph detectives told TAP. He might be able to get a milder sentence if he had feared for his life. After witnessing the attack on Angie eventually tap said that was the case stating that he joined in on the violence because Hobbes threatened him. An officer told tap he passed that lie detector test keeping a note about signs of dishonesty when he talked about participating in the crime. Private after twenty eight hours of questioning thing. They had a confession and they didn't hesitate in using it. The following week top was charged with rape use of deadly weapon in the Commission of a felony and first degree murder taps. Trial began in May of one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Nearly two years after Angie's murder his attorney tried to suppress the confession which was filmed along with all of his interviews by the argument that it had been coerced. The the judge determined that most of his statements could be used against him and those tapes became the focal point of much of the trial. The first time police interview tap they saw hobbs as the suspect. According to former reporter cannot Berg who now writes and conducts research for the National Shnell Registry of exonerations at that time investigators wanted tapped implicate. Hobbs they lied to tap stating that Hobbes had already already placed tap at the scene of the crime. They claim that they could help tap. If only he would cooperate. He would if he could tap told them describing himself itself as just a scared little man and swearing that he didn't know anything about the rape or murder as he interviews carried on pressure on tap hap- mounted until finally he offered the part about helping hobbs attack. Angie basically out of self defense. He said he was forced to slash her right breast. I as the questioning morphed into a pressure fueled interrogation according to tax defense the claims investigators made to him grew more extreme team turning into life or death decisions. They told him that he could face the death penalty and that if he couldn't recall what he'd done it was because he had repressed oppressed those traumatic memories during the trial. One of the police officers testified the top described Angie's clothing at the time of her murder. which which could implicated him but examination of the tapes and polygraph results later showed the tap never mentioned her clothes until after he had been shown on crime scene photos early on prosecutors offered typically deal seeming unaware of some of the exchanges between him him and police they believed was lying to string them along so they rescinded that deal? His confession was played for the jury and even though they lacked. DNA evidence connecting acting him to the scene. He was convicted. Carol Dodge Glare tap as the judge read his sentence thirty years to life in prison prison for the rape and murder given that the man who sperm was found on her daughters brutalized body hadn't been identified. Carol new new full justice hadn't been done another man had to be involved not just tap in an interview with dateline in August. Two thousand twelve. She said the anger just surged through me. And that's when I went to the streets and I literally put sixty thousand miles on my truck searching for her killer and she wasn't driving only through safe neighborhoods or at broad daylight at one point. Someone put a gun to her head as she comes. The streets treats new leads cropped up but didn't lead to anything. Substantial Carol would often end up. Parked outside of Angie's old apartment building caught up in what she described as an all out obsession. She wouldn't rest until the man or another man who helped take Angie's life was found. She poured cord over police reports until they were virtually etched in her memory barely sleeping between her searches. One of those reports included a phrase that stood out to her something about pubic hairs. Not just blood found on Angie's body. It sounded like something that could help from DNA standpoint. So she reached out the expert Dr Greg. MP Kin who happened to live in Idaho hemp eakin also a fruit fly. Geneticist and college professor became involved in the criminal. The justice world in the early two thousands when he was asked to test DNA that ended up helping innocent man be freed Georgia Prison Hem peaky and has since stayed involved in such work even helping free. Amanda Knox the US College Student Who is wrongly imprisoned Italy and Founding Idaho's Innocence Project Act when he heard message urging him to help her find out what happened to her daughter. He phoned her back immediately. Carol all told him about the pubic hairs. Then called. Idaho Falls Police Department learning that the hairs have been stored in evidence untested for years. The hairs were sent off for testing. The results showed they didn't match. Angie or tap no physical evidence connected anyone to the murder except for the sperm firm and those hairs which belonged to the same person one killer tap. She believed had to be innocent now. Carol felt felt. She had to do something she had not yet done. Watch all the interview tapes beyond his confession as she did not only did she perceived Steve Manipulation as an officer Prada tapped to consider hypothetically committing the murder and eventually guiding him to confess but she noticed that he could not identify other details details such as the building. Angie lived in a corner building. That would be difficult to forget. Detectives kept correcting him. She observed rather than making way for honest two answers so carol decided not only to fight harder to find her daughter's killer but to help free innocent man. This was striking considering that Carol previously wanted tap to receive the death penalty meanwhile the officer largely responsible for putting tap behind bars. Ars remained certain he had the right man. Furthering her efforts Carol contacted. Stephen Risen a well known expert in false confessions sends and a law professor at Northwestern University in two thousand ten driven co authored. A paper entitled the three Errors Pathways ways to false confession and wrongful conviction. The report analyzed three mistakes that take place in every false confession first. Investigators instigators have to miss classify. An innocent person is guilty so classify someone like tap as a murderer second they have to subject them to quote guilt presumptive active accusatory interrogation that invariably involves lies about evidence and often the repeated use of implicit and explicit promises and threats. Let's so for example telling tap that they could prove he was guilty. He'd probably repressed it and he may as well try to escape capital punishment. Then once wants the interviewers have elicited a false admission they pressure the person to provide opposed admission narrative that shaped together often supplying innocent suspect backed with the facts both public and non public of the crime. That sounds a lot like the frequent corrections officers made that Carol noticed and taps interviews news by analyzing these steps the author's hope to help minimize false confessions from leading to wrongful convictions. This is pretty big considering saying that the innocence project found that out of one hundred thirty people who exonerated based on DNA evidence after being convicted of murder eighty one of them over sixty exte- percent falsely confessed. As of two thousand eighteen driven agreed to look into antidote as murder and taps confession free of charge. Drizzly agreed to look into the Angie Dodge murder case and taps confession free of charge in a report published in two thousand fourteen cortines. He concluded that the confession was indeed coerced produced through pressure and deceit and enhanced by the officers who supply tap with information to lend and credibility to statements. He helped bring in the innocence project of New York to work on the case along with the Idaho. Innocence Project and judges for justice just to secure taps released from prison. Not only was it confession. False emotion filed by taps attorneys argued. But it didn't make sense with the evidence. Silence taps that are murder happened at the time when Andrew was out with her friends for example when in reality she was later after being asleep for some time in March two thousand seventeen taps rape conviction was vacated and his murder conviction sentence was reduced to time served. Thanks to Carol Dodge odd and the team she pulled together. He was released from prison. So who had killed Angie Dodge a couple of years prior to taps release these detectives searched ancestry dot com for DNA that might be connected to the case and they gotta hit a close enough match for someone. They believed to be related to the attacker. After securing a search warrant. They learned the man's identity. Michael UH three. His son also stone-age Michael assery quickly became a suspect. The name Mike had come up in interviews with tap as someone he thought might have been involved and as the team researched. Michael US three. He seemed suspicious. He had social media connections and Idaho falls and had created a grisly short film called murder. Delia the film centered on a convict. Who Stabbed to death? Not Unlike Angie Slang Michael was brought in for questioning in his State of residence. It's New Orleans without hearing. Why officers asked him? If he'd been to Idaho Falls yes. He answered that was enough to prompt a cheek cheek swab for a DNA test back at his home. US recalled a friend appointed him toward the Angie Dodge case he then learned about the search warrant and the DNA connection made on ancestry dot com over a month. Later he received an email from sergeant with the Idaho Falls police departments. We just wanted to let you know that your DNA did not match our crime scene DNA. Something you already knew. Thank you for your cooperation in the interview. You and the time you took for us. Your DNA results will not be used for any other purpose. According to a forty eight hours interview being cleared as a suspect act while extremely welcome did not take away from the terrifying nature of being suspected of murder. I was angry at everybody. He said. Police scientists these database companies. How could they misfire so bad hoping to prevent something similar from happening to someone else us? We decided to produce a documentary about his experience. He reached out to Angie's mom Carol and discovered that she was confident. That Angie's killer was somehow related to the filmmaker homemaker struck by passion. His documentary aspirations shifted. He decided to focus instead on. Carroll's quest for justice finally in two thousand nineteen someone who's DNA matched. The evidence from the crime. Scene was arrested fifty three year old. Brian Lee drips at the time of the murder. He lived across the street from Angie and he was a relative of Mike Three he'd been questioned and early on in the investigation but he was never asked for DNA once again. A public database helped the investigation leading to his mother. He moved moved several hundred miles away from Idaho falls after the murderer which is where authorities located cigarette but he had tossed to the ground to test when police arrested him him. He claimed to know nothing about Angie's case but his shaking hands seemed to hint at another story once he learned that his DNA had been found. The crime scene drips can clean about his involvement with no help from anyone else. He said he had acted alone. According into an affidavit of probable cause obtained by East Idaho News drips told police that he'd only intended to rape. Angie not kill her when he entered her apartment in Nineteen ninety-six he then admitted to killing her holding a knife to her throat during the sexual assault and ending up cutting her throat when he was done done washed his bloody gloves in her bathroom. He added and said he believed. Angie was still alive when he left two months after after the confession tap was back in court to be fully exonerated this time without technology without genealogy research we we would have never found Angie's killer. Carol told forty eight hours it is the key that opens the door to justice a police officer officers. Who helped bring the case to a close said? Carol knew more about DNA than heated in May of two thousand nineteen. She launched a gofundme called five for for hope which benefits nonprofit cold-case foundations and underfunded police departments and helps purchase testing equipment and supplies for more technology the advancements to help solve other cases and bring closure to victims families as for Auntie dodges family. They continue to honor her memory which that closure seems to only help the memorial site reads. Angie will forever live in our hearts and memories of her will be forever cherished. Angie survived by her mother Carol Dodge and three brothers Brent Todd and Roger Fourteen precious nieces and nephews grandma may Nelson many aunts uncles cousins and an abundance of many friends. Surely till's loved ones. The young woman who loved Christmas this nature her old boat of a car and her new Chevy remains as her gravestone states a precious angel. This has been murder minutes for true crime anytime. 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Episode #8: My 1976 Dodge D100 Truck Project "LOWPAR"

Talking Mopars

42:35 min | 1 year ago

Episode #8: My 1976 Dodge D100 Truck Project "LOWPAR"

"Welcome to episode Number Eight on today's show. We're GONNA close out two thousand nineteen talking project car of the week listener stories and I'm finally going to talk about the other project in Nineteen Seventy six Dodge D. One hundred pickup truck right here on the best part driven podcast on planet earth. And I'm I'm your host Chris. Albrecht better known as the MO par. And this is talking Mo- pars you're listening to talking with the car hunter. Your direct connection to all things mope folks the last episode of talking Mo- Parts for the year twenty twenty is upon us. And what can we expect. I'll tell you what you can expect. You can expect more episodes of high performance heritage where we go in depth on a moped from history history and just talk about that specific car or truck and really get into the Nitty Gritty and the fun details of those vehicles. Also what we have in store or in what. I'm probably most excited about is direct connections. I cannot wait to talk to other Mo- pont who's IUS and have conversations just talking about out our passion for mopeds that's going to be really fun and I think that's going to take this show to the next level and the best part is we've only just begun in this week's project car of the week is actually a truck now. I ran across this truck when and looking locally on craigslist promote cars for sale and I ran across an ad that said truck for sale five hundred and fifty dollars and I was like okay. Click on it just so happens to be in nineteen seventy eight Dodge D. one hundred short bed and you know looking at the truck. I mean other than needing paint. It looks pretty solid needs a front bumper. The only has three pictures and none of them are very good. And the description of the AD is as follows. Nineteen Seventy Dodge D. One hundred five hundred and fifty dollars or best offer. The only other information we have from this ad is obtained from the sidebar. The sidebar is a good place to get extra information that was not placed in the description shen of the ad so in this particular case the seller gives us a little bit more so all the extra information is as follows condition seller puts good cylinders eight. So it's a VA drive. It's rear wheel drive. So here's an interesting tidbit of information for Dodge trucks if you see a a D. in front of the number like in this case it's a D.. One hundred that designates this truck as a two wheel drive if you see a w in front of the number then that means four wheel drive. Moving fuel is gas diesels. Were really rare on these trucks. So most likely you're only going to see gas paint color. He puts gray a now if you look at the pictures. This thing is all sorts of different colors it's grays and blues in rusts and Browns and so it takes the pain for what it is is just a description title status. He puts clean. So it's gotTA clean title. That's good transmission automatic so we have a V.. Eight automatic de one hundred short Abed which is a pretty desirable truck in the ten girl. Dodge community ten grew. What's a ten grow? Chris you've probably heard me toss that term around once or twice. A Tin Grilled Dodge truck is the nickname for these trucks which was coined by Paul up in Canada from the Tin Grill. Dodge trucks group on facebook. It's a huge groups. Got Like fifteen thousand people in it. And they're all fans of the nineteen seventy two to nineteen eighty trucks which we affectionately call ten grills so if you hear me refer to attend Grill Dodge truck. That's what I'm talking about. Seventy to eighty now. If you're into these trucks go checkoutigt grill dodge trucks on facebook a great group lots of Tin Griller. That's what we call him ten guerrillas. There's a lot of ten guerrillas there and lots of opinions too so be careful with that you got guys there that only like their trucks lifted lifted only like their truck stock only their trucks lowered or any combination of the above. I like them all. I don't discriminate when it comes to ten girls I I think they're all cool but other people don't feel the same way anyways. Paul does a really good job of keeping that group in line. So you won't see anything but seventy to eighty eighty dodge trucks and plymouth trail dusters on there. And if you do. It won't be there for long because Paul will put the axe on that. That's a shoutout to Paul. How you doing Paul Hope? You're listening this episode. Check out ten girl dodge trucks on Youtube channel just started so if you're just getting into these trucks great resource for information is ten girl. Dodge trucks doc. So subscribe to their youtube. Joined the group and you know. Get your information together so back to this truck. This truck is a great starting starting point for somebody who maybe doesn't have a huge budget start with five hundred and fifty dollar truck and its or best offer or you might be able to get this thing for a few hundred bucks. Okay so not only. Do you have a decent truck to start with a decent platform to build. It's only five hundred bucks. You know what I mean so if you just build an engine for it and you decide later on down the road because of the truck actually has more Russ than you originally thought. Maybe you can find another truck. Tuck and use this one as a donor or so you can take to trucks and make one really nice one or you could part out the truck saved the motor and go get yourself a different project. Maybe you're an e body guy or a body guy or a B body guy or anybody guy and you want a different vehicle. The great thing about this truck is is. It is a desirable truck so if you decide down the line I'm just going to sell this truck you know. Maybe you fix it up a little bit you know put some money into it and maybe you can double your initial initial investment. You know five hundred bucks maybe a thousand on it you know. Sell it for fifteen hundred but you have the engine that you can take put an different project. Now that's not the direction I would go. I personally. This is what I would do. I would buy the truck get it running and driving. The paint isn't a cool Patina. It's you know it's pretty nasty so I would probably get get get the body work done you know I. It doesn't have to be professional if you get it driver. Quality have a fun little truck for five hundred fifty bucks to start. That's a great starting point. It looks like an old workhorse. So it is a seventy eight one hundred it does look pretty solid from the pictures a lot of these trucks you can look at the cab corners and the rocker the bottom portions of the truck like on the fenders and on the bed and you can usually see rock right away another place that I've seen these trucks like to rot is right on that top roof line at the top of the windshield. I've seen him rot out there a lot. But this thing looks really solid for five hundred bucks it really GonNa Complain about what shape. It's in shut up. Go by the truck put an engine in it and go have some fun. You know what I mean. That's a great by so this truck is posted on facebook right now on the mot part hundred page so if you like project cars and you WANNA see more cars and trucks like this follow me on facebook at the Mo- part owner if you're looking for a cheap entry into the world of Mo- par as far as projects go. I think this truck is an excellent candidate and it's the cheapest project car of the week we've had ever so that's got to say something I really WanNa to call. This guy gets more information about this. Chuck this is a steel. I'm just looking at it and I'm thinking to myself five hundred dollars. It's five hundred dollars worth of parts on. This truck is a great deal. Someone needs to buy this truck today. Five hundred and fifty dollars or best offer in this week's listener story fits this episode really well. Since we're clearly. Having a tin grow theme this week The project truck was legitimately unintentional. It just happened to be on the best project vehicle That I've found for the right price but I did intend to tell so this story as well as the story of my d one hundred so this week's listener story was submitted by a gentleman named Kyle and he's a college student and he he just so happens to have a ten grill of his own. So let's get into Kyle Story. Hello Mr mopeds hunter my name is Kyle. And I'm a junior in college. This year in Wisconsin. Many of my relatives have new and classic Mo- Parts and I always wanted a project of my own last year I purchased a nineteen seventy three D.. One hundred hurt step aside from an older gentleman who bought it only a few years old. It had been sitting in his ship for thirteen years when he decided to have his son posted on craigslist. When when I reached out to him in the dead of winter last year he said we can wait for spring and the trump would not be going anywhere? But I couldn't wait. We jumped in my friend's truck with a trailer until made the two our trek to purchase this truck upon arrival it was a little rougher than the seller had led me to believe. The trump was repainted in the mid nineteen ninety s and it wasn't holding up up very well but looking through the chip and flaking paint. I could see the potential. Although the engine was not running it did turn over with jumper cables. I heard the distinct sound of a classic classic moped starter and I knew I'd be taking it home. After a little negotiating I handed the seller one thousand dollars and we pushed it onto the trailer with a few months time in a little bit but of money I have the truck running for summer my friends and I cruise it around all summer and fall and I even drove it across the state to buddies cabin. I put a four barrel intake and carb mild cam and some long tube headers on it to help wake up the three eighteen this winter. I've started the bodywork. I plan to learn as I go with the help of my dad's experience along the way I plan to reshoot the truck. It's factory yellow color and continued driving it for many years. I've been listening to your podcast for a few weeks now. After stumbling across the first episode I love the Listener Project Section and I'm able to live vicariously through them while I'm at school. Keep up the awesome show. Thank you kyle. I've attached a picture of my truck can't wait for the episode when you talk about about your d one hundred. Thanks for sharing your story and I've got great news. Not only am I sharing the story of my d one hundred on this episode but the project car of the week is a D. One hundred and we're I sharing your story buddy. It's always fun here story about somebody who gets pumped about a project and that sounds exactly like what happened to you. I really liked your persistence. When the seller told you that you could wait until spring and you're like nope going to get it now that's awesome that's dedication and I really liked that? I love hearing stories about people going going to pick up their project MOPE ours. I think it's great. I love here in the story of finding the car or truck going and getting it free at home and then you know your plans for it. Those are always fun stories. Kyle I wish you the best of luck with your d one hundred. Keep me posted. I'm looking at the picture right now. It looks like a really nice truck. It wasn't until two thousand fifteen when I realized how much of a following these trucks had. I've been obsessed ever since I think these trucks are awesome. And I'm really happy that people are starting to catch on and I mean much to the detriment of the enthusiasts of these trucks. Because now they're getting a little bit higher in price but you know they're still out there you can still find him. A lot of people still don't understand what kind of potential these trucks have. And that's fine. If they don't know that we can still get them for pretty cheap so good lot kyle with your project. I can't wait to see what happens with it. Keep me posted. I'm really looking forward to seeing what you end up doing it. Thanks for sending in your story. I've mentioned on this podcast that in addition to my project car dart not I also have a project truck a seventy six dodge d. one hundred and this is the story of a truck that I call low par by this portion of the episode. You probably already know that I call nineteen seventy to nineteen eighty dodge trucks tin grills. It's the affectionate name that was coined by my friend. Paul for these trucks and I've always liked him. But I never actually considered buying one for a project until I saw one at a car show. Oh that changed my mind entirely. It was the same month. That I started the Mope one hundred facebook page and I was at a good guys car show in Puyallup Washington when I saw a tin grill. That really really inspired me to get one for myself. I was going so these shows are so big that what I do. Typically unless something catches my eye I just focus on the Mo Mo par partaking pictures on sometimes talking owners so I was going Mo- part of Mo- par checking out the cars and taking pictures pictures when I saw a green and white tin grill. That had the coolest concept I had ever seen on an old dodge truck. What the owner did was he made? Aided a tribute to Mr norms grant spaulding dodge. And what I mean by that. Is He lettered this truck up to look like an old shop truck with weathered looking door or logos and other PATINA. Did you know weathered look lettering on the tailgate vendors in bed Another cool little detail was that he had the little grand spaulding style cartoon Ram on the Front of the fenders. So if you didn't know any better when you saw this truck you would think it was a legitimate truck. DOC from grand spaulding dodge so it looked like if Mr Norm had a shop truck or apart struck this is what he would drive for. This is what the parts runner would drive so for me. Being a big fan of Mr Norm and his work. I was absolutely blown away by this truck. It was so cool. I was just drooling over at taking pictures and just thinking to myself. Wow what an awesome idea and and it was executed so well the Patina on the lettering and just the truck as a whole was done very well and it remains one of my favorite trucks to this very day I briefly spoke with the owner and expressed my love for this truck to them and told them what an amazing you know. What an amazing build he accomplished? I actually thought it was a real Mr Norm truck like looking at it like you could have told me that. That's really really grand spaulding shop truck. I would have believed you. That's how good this was done. The owner of the truck. His name's Murray He's from British Columbia Canada. He came up with the concept and built the truck as a tribute to grant spaulding dodge and Mr Norm and let me just say that he absolutely nailed it. This truck was great. I would go as far as to say that. I've never been so affected by any other truck in my life all the trucks. I've seen that are really cool. This truck truck left the biggest impact on me. I I'm not just saying that. For dramatic effect. Everything about the truck was awesome and without oh getting into too much detail about it. Because I'm actually friends with Murray now and I plan on having him on a direct connections episode of this show so I what I will say is the truck was a beautiful two-tone J. Three citerne metallic green with white tastefully lowered with a strong little three Sixty v eight it had had twenty inch wheels and had some really cool other touches like accustomed front lip spoiler that was tuck nicely under the front bumper. which was actually custom on the front? Bumper was actually customized to the house to round Amber Marker Lights which I thought was a really cool detail because you know details like that. A lot of people would overlook but if you really know these trucks go that. That's pretty cool. Oh I've never seen that done before so that was pretty cool and I. I was never really a expert on these trucks. So the little things that stood out to somebody who was I was familiar with wasn't an expert but there are certain little things about the truck that were just standing out in at first looking at it I was like there's something about this truck that's completely different. And the more you looked data more little things you would see so he also had a rear bumper. The the nonstop cromer bumper from Aram charger and it was nicely. talked into the bed. which you know is another cool little detail the the details of the trucker just really cool and Murray actually even had a custom? Tim Dealer Sticker made that was weathered to match the rest of the PATINA. Look on the truck so on the on the tailgate on the corner the upper corner of the tailgate of this truck. It had a black can white grand spaulding dodge Chicago Illinois sticker and it was perfectly whether to look like it had been on this truck since the mid Seventies. I thought it was so cool. The truck is in one thousand nine hundred. Seventy Eight Dodge D. One hundred and when I saw it originally actually had a seventy two grill on it because sorry Murray if this is a big secret but good guys had a year cutoff. So in order to Seventy eight and at the time. They weren't leading cars that new into the show so he puts a seventy two grill on it and Walla. He's in so he snuck his way in. And that's okay that that show was better having that truck in it so you know if good guys ever gets word of that. Hey good guys relax okay. They actually they upped the year range. I'm sure it was because a lot of the GM guys you know the C ten guys and those g body guys. They're probably crying moaning about not being able to get their seat ends ends in and they're they're little. Gee Bodies in so now it's up to like eighty seven so if you have anything pre eighty seven you can take it to that show anyways. Let's get back to subject here. I've never seen another bill quite like it and I don't know if it's just because I'm a moped nostalgia guy or what. The charges just awesome. I'm actually say I'm GonNa Post more pictures of this truck but it's so cool. It deserves more views so be sure to check that out. I think I'M GONNA have to carve my own path and do my own thing with my truck but I will say that it will remain one of my favorite trucks to this day. Murray has a great eye for design and he actually does really killer design work. He did a rendering for me for my blue truck which I also share a picture of that because it's just so cool and custom renderings of your own vehicles are just really cool things to have To display at car shows just to even have on your wall for display. Because because hey that's your car and it just is just looks awesome. I wish I had the talent that Murray and other designers have when they render cars cars especially when they do it by hand and then digitize it or even just by hand. That's just a talent that unfortunately I don't have but I have the utmost respect for people that do and Murray's very good at it and he's had stuff featured in magazines. I know I've seen a rendering of his on a very popular TV. Have you show if you want rendering of your vehicles done or a really good render of your vehicle done. You can find Murray on Instagram facebook. And I'll put his social media links in the episode details for you so you can find him. But I'll tag in the pictures of his truck and the rendering of my truck is also GonNa Post that so I'll tag him in those and you can find him that way as well that may be easier but Murray actually ended up selling that truck and unfortunately I had no idea it was for sale or I probably would own it because I would figured out a way to buy but the gentleman who has it now has changed a couple of things and to each their own but now I have my own truck to turn into something really special but now I have my own truck turn into something really special so I'm really excited sided about it and seeing Murray's truck inspired me enough to tell myself that on that day I realized that I would have a tin grill of my own. Someday come hell or high water and that's exactly what happened. It just took nearly three years for me to find the right one. There were a couple more tin grills that I had seen in person and online that I drew inspiration from but Murray's can take that grand spaulding tribute truck that Mr norms tribute truck can take sole credit for the inspiration to go find my own ten grill. The search was actually really tough because unlike unlike other trucks the production numbers on these dodge trucks were far less than that of the other. Two of the big three so fords and Chevys typically when you find these trucks. They're hammered and rusted. But if you find the right one you can have a fun. Little truck with minimal initial investment. Because a lot of people don't understand Dan. These trucks are starting to get a more desirable so the people that have immuno as far as they're concerned this is the old the old truck they take to do. Dump runs and stuff every Johnson awhile but these trucks make really good project vehicles and you can still get them for pretty cheap. I mean project car of the week was a truck and it was five hundred and fifty fifty dollars and it looked pretty complete. So if you're looking for a MO- par project you know. Consider the trucks. They're cool and you can still get a lot of them for a decent price. So don't discount a dodge truck for a good project Mo par when I I left that show that day after looking at Murray's truck and being so inspired I immediately got on the hunt and I looked at quite a few of these trucks and even knock on some doors of folks that had them sitting in their driveway or in their yard but nothing ever panned out then in the winter of twenty seventeen. I saw a blue Lou nineteen seventy-six de one hundred on offer up which you know if you don't know about offer up. It's a decent APP to find cars and trucks. If you in order now aside from craigslist it's also a good resource for parts but my truck was listed for four thousand dollars and and it was two tone blue and white with the clearance lights on the top of the cab it had white steel wheels with vented poverty caps it also had a slant six a nine hundred four torque light automatic and it was slammed to the ground. The truck had been lowered with a three link. Air Ride setup now when when I set out looking for a tin grill. I never even considered a truck that had arrived because I was intending on building muscle truck but there was something about the look of of this truck. They're really piqued my interest. I absolutely love the look and was actually the first truck since I saw Murray's that really moved me I i. There was something about a short box. Two wheel drive to tone lower truck with clearance prince lights on top. That's funny part about this truck. It's slammed and it has clearance lights on the roof of the cab. It's it's really funny. I thought the look it was great. Here's where things got tough. I didn't have four thousand dollars to even consider buying this truck. I only had to grant so not wanting to be a low baller and thinking the guy won't even entertain offer one half of what he was asking. I saved the ad and just kept looking. Hopefully he lowered the price if he still had it. I expected it to be gone. Because that's how cool the. When I saw that truck I was like Ooh God? Why didn't I thought what can I do to get an extra two thousand because look at this truck but I saved the ad and I just kept looking and days are going by and I still went and checked on the truck just to see if he still had it it and see if it had been sold and it was still for sale then weeks went by still for sale? Finally with two thousand dollars burning a hole in my pocket and no luck with any other other trucks. I decided to contact the owner about the truck after a few questions. He says it would be better if he called me. And we talked on the phone so I respect any reseller that says that because you can get a lot from talking to someone on the phone and I usually reach out with text. I if I don't get a response then then I'll try contacting them Via phone calling him instead of tax. I just find text to be more convenient for some reason but but I also understand that we live in a day and age where everything's taxed and not many people WanNa talk on the phone anymore and you can actually get to know a person a little that better and what kind of a seller or buyer. They are by talking to him on the phone. So I always promote that. Even though I usually initiate first contact with texts but getting back to the call I talked to him and I ask all the questions I wanted to ask and the owner seemed like a good guy. But I didn't WANNA make a commitment to go look at the truck yet because I only had to grant so I told him I think about it and would probably call him back either in my head. I'm thinking either when I get into the a two thousand dollars or when I get the balls to offer him half of his asking price so I didn't actually schedule a time to go. Look at it. I told him that I'd call him back. When you're chasing down any type of vehicle for a project and you start hitting dead ends every time and you start striking out? Because that's what I was doing with these other trucks. I'll strike out but this little blue truck was right there. Every time is like the little blue truck was the shoulder. Yeah I would cry on after another deal fell through. Well I guess you know there's still you but you know you're double what I have in my pocket and then one day I was like you know what I'm GonNa throw my two thousand dollars at the wall and see if it sticks so I had been watching this truck on offer up since the end of twenty seventeen. It was winter time time when I first saw and it was like the beginning of twenty eighteen when I reached out and by the time I reached out for the second time time to talk to the seller and make an offer we were already a third of the way into twenty eighteen. It was already April. The truck wasn't selling and this is when I came to the conclusion that maybe this was my opportunity to make an offer so I asked the owner if he would entertain two thousand dollars cash on the condition that I could drive the truck home on first phone call. I learned that the owner installed the air ride and then lost interest in the truck and it sat for three years in storage facility. That funny enough was it's kind of like an old stable but I know don't worry I won't call it a barn find is I just thought it was funny that was it was stored in a facility that was old tables that were basically converted into storage units. I thought that was funny but the owners response wasn't exactly what I expected But I was happy when he simply said. Hey come and look so with two thousand dollars in my pocket. I headed up to look at the truck which was up in Mount Vernon so it's roughly thirty miles north of where I live and the whole drive Dr. I was thinking to myself that three years wasn't that long. You know it was sitting for three years but it was a slant sex you know. There's absolutely no way. The trump wouldn't run in my head. I'm thinking you know it wasn't stored outside. It was running when it parked. They always say that But I was taking him on his word and when I got there I got Outta the truck met the guy. He opens the door the Marne door. And there's the truck and as soon as I saw I knew that trump was gonna be mine so the exact opposite feeling feeling I got when I looked at the five hundred dollar truck I had when I looked at this blue truck I looked at it and I said Oh. Yeah it's everything that it wasn't the pictures and looking king add. It was exactly the way he had described. You know. I asked him about the rust. He said you know it's got surfers. Rest here and there and the driver floor pan is pretty bad so I saw that and I was like okay. Yeah it can be patched nobile just simple just simple patches would take care of that and you know I'm just pumped looking at this truck and have that okay. No matter what happens on buying this thing I had that attitude so I was already doomed. Hose already doomed when I thought but I got there knowing I was GONNA to buy it and after looking at it and saying that I take it if I could drive it away. The owner went home. Got The title. 'cause I'm I'm pretty sure that he thought I was just tire. Eric and wasn't actually going to buy it so he left the title at Home I went to the store I went to get some cooling. A battery in a hose clamp for leaky fuel line and we ended up. You know firing the truck up after a few time after and we ended up firing truck after a few tries and the air ride still worked but by the time I bought this truck the air ride system. That was installed was basically antiquated. It was already a few years old in you now with car parts and stuff especially with custom stuff like air ride suspension. The technology improves every year. So this this was like the cheapest stuff you could get at the time that the truck was put on Air Ride so fast forward a few years and everything's changed so I was looking at the air ride system and I'm like okay all this has to go. This all has to be updated but the look of the truck is what I was buying. I wanted the blue truck with the clearance lights with you. Know the two tone blue and white with steel wheels with vented poverty caps. I just thought it was. I just thought it had had the right. Look exactly what I was looking for so I knew it was mine we got it started. We got the air ride working. We pull it out of the barn up up there. I did it I call it a bar. We pull it out of the storage and the truck ran but you could tell it was pretty tired and we pulled it out into the sunlight for the first time in three years and it was idling on its own so I looked dead the ice at all right. Let's do this paperwork hand and I handed over the cash and we did the paperwork thing and I was ready to go I was driving. This sucker. Home is coming home with me. I didn't even leave the property before the previous owner texted me like when everything was signed and I was taken off like I guess. He texted me before I even left the driveway. And I didn't even I didn't care I was I was home. I was going home and with this truck and I wish I had seen his text because what the tech accent was. Hey lift the rear you see when we exited the driveway. My wife went in front of me and I was exiting to basically glee. She was stopping when she got out onto the road. And I was going to pull in front of her hand when I did kind of you know the slant six was a little tired and this was a little bit of an incline so so I kind of hit the throttle little bit used to the truck and as I came up onto the road. You know that little inclined I guess the air ride so I wanted to be cool. Okay so when I left I kept it low. Not all the way slammed but I kept it low and the problem was I had the rear too low so the previous owner was like lift the rear and I didn't even know he texted me and as soon as I got up and out I heard am and I was like. Oh God what was that. So I was on the street and driving my new pride and joy I was ecstatic but I was a little worried what that bang was but I thought I'll figure it out later. I'm stoked right now. I mean after all here I am adding a tin grill. My Berry tiny moped collection which was now at two classic Strong so the trump was gonNA look great next to my dart was gonNA look amazing if I could actually make it home. I remember the owner telling me a couple of things that I probably should have paid a little bit more attention to after we got the truck running but I was so happy that I found a truck and that I was driving at home. That what he was telling me was kind of going in one ear and out the other which was bad stupid. Move on my part so he. He told me that the truck didn't like the freeway and something about the wrong gears in the rear and the center of the air suspension was welded to the Cross member. And and apparently it was gonNA break at some point. It was only a matter of time like I said in one ear out the other. I'm gonNA address all that stuff anyway. No big deal. I'll get this thing home and we'll get a closer look at it because I just knew that you know when you see vehicle that you want. If you're taking it home at least I I do the same feeling with Dr Sam Feeling. I got with this truck. I just knew they're coming home with me. These thoughts immediately entered my mind as I drove. Drove away these thoughts of. Oh Yeah what did he say about that. Oh yeah that's right who sorry can't take the freeway and Gosh. I hope that Third Link Center link on the suspension doesn't break driving this thing home and then you know I'm driving this thing and another thing. I noticed really quick. was that this forty. Plus this year old truck had very sloppy steering and the brakes. Were not very good. I really should have tested those before. I drove this thing on the road. That's exactly what I thought and like how Man I'm really excited idiot and I didn't check those breaks and now I'm in too deep and committed to the drive home. The first time I hit the I was coming into this corner in where I got. This truck was out in farm country. So it's Nice Nice smooth. ooh turns in the road and my wife's behind me and she doesn't know what's transpiring inside the cab of the truck me you know I am all my nether. Regions are clinched really tight. Because I was really worried at this point I was like okay so the steerings really sloppy. We're going into a corner and the brakes are not very good. So I'm getting into this corner and making the turn and I'm trying to slow the thing down because by that time I picked up speed because once I got on the road I started to slowly accelerate thinking that it had been three years. Since this thing was on the road I would slowly accelerated up to speed and then once I hit thirty miles an hour I was like well. Let's see what this thing can so I kept pushing it pushing it pushing it. Not because it was fast but because they'd been sitting for so long so I kinda wanted to let it breathe a little bit so I'm up to about forty miles an hour hour and I'm coming to this corner. That's not really you know. It's not a ninety degree corner or anything crazy. It's like a swooping corner but I had to slow down and and went to push in the break and that sucker went right to the floor so I'm like. Oh Gosh so I start pumping and I get just enough pressure to slow me down to basically hang on for dear life and this is at slow speeds you know but I like to live dangerously and this thing thing was dangerous and I feel like a fool driving this sound like God. I'm stupid so the first time I hit the brake pedal immediately goes to the floor very cool so I got pressure slowed the thing down and it was at this point that I thought maybe I should just pull over and have this thing towed home and then the little devil on my right shoulder said now let's live dangerously. So that was that and I get to the first major intersection Offer the old farming road and there's a gas station across the street and then I was reminded that. Oh Yeah Yeah. Didn't he say something about the gas. And then I remembered. Oh Yeah. He said that he doesn't know how much gas is in it and basically Gli not sure if the fuel gauges accurate. Because I'm looking at the fuel gauge and I'm like okay. It's on E.. He doesn't know how much fuel was put in either. Stop for fuel so I stopped for for fuel and go inside and oh I checked. I did pop the hood and I checked all the fluids to make sure everything was good. It wasn't I was short on transmission fluid would which would explain why it was shifting funny or not shifting at all and I did have a minor heart attack when I noticed something hanging down from the rear of the truck as a win was filling up with fuel. It was kind of doing a walk around and just check everything out and I see something hanging from underneath the truck and I thought Oh God and the bank that I had heard leaving the driveway. Driveway was my passion the bang that I heard leaving the driveway was my passenger side. Rear shock apparently. I hit that bump hard enough to break the bottom of the shot clean off and it was just hanging on to your life for the ride home nice so I talked to my wife and said hey if I pull over. That means I'm telling this thing home. And the look on her face said it all the live on her face said what kind of P. O. S.. Did you buy and she probably knew the dumb look of both excitement and complete worry on my face that I had enough on my plate and she didn't want to tell me what a horrible has made so fair enough I I could read her face so we've been together for twelve years. I know I know what's on your mind so unlike okay in like we're looking at each other and in my is like you know how you can speak with your eyes. I'm looking at my wife and I'm basically speaking through my is going. I know what you're thinking. I know whit too and we're going to go ahead and deal with this now so I jumped in the truck and we take this truck all the way way back to thirty miles home. It was nerve wracking and also the most fun I had had in recent memory. The truck made it the thirty miles. I had a blast driving just because I was just so excited to have it. I was like you know what this is cool. I don't care what I have to fix on this thing. It's GonNa be fun so I was really excited about that and I only had one scare the drive home and that was when I saw sheriff realize that. Oh yeah have no license plates on this thing. I had no place on the truck at all so thankfully I had this suspension lifted Once we left the gas station better just ride this thing as high as it can go so I lifted lifted the air suspension astronomical heights and to anyone else on the road. This was just an old farm truck and the Sheriff didn't even see me so that's good so so as my friend Paul from ten girl dodge trucks group would say. I was tin cognitive so I made it home and the work began first. I cleaned up the truck and then I started doing all the typical tuneup worked on. It and the truck had some electrical issues. It was running great for the first couple a couple of months I had it and then it just started having electrical issues and I was chasing all these little gremlins all around and when it was running it seemed idle very good until it did to make a long story. A little bit shorter the truck now has the tune up a new car and is currently undergoing a full rewire which is taking a lot. And I do mean a lot longer than I had originally. I thought it would mostly because I've been distracted lately. We just had a new baby back in June. And I have other mope related projects like this podcast cast so my time is limited. But I really need to get back out and work on that truck So right now the truck is down but not out for the count. My current plans are to get the truck truck running right and get all the electrical sort it out and then address the air ride setup which needs to be completely modernized and set up differently so going to be doing that. I also picked up a gen three five point seven. Hemi out of an OPEC's charger for hundred dollars. which is complete? I have the old wiring harness. I got everything for the engine blew a head gasket. So that's the only thing that's wrong with it. So I'm GonNa do a rebuild on that. I want the Hemi under the hood. You know being kind of a PATINA truck with modern Hemi under the hood on Iran. I think that'll be fun. You know nothing crazy just something fun for me to dry because I want this to be my daily driver. You know a little arrest repair here and there and I'm going to drive this thing til the wheels fall off I was so inspired by Murray's grand spaulding tribute truck that I decided when I finally got one of these trucks that I would make it look like an old shop truck with the weathered lettering similar to Murray's only mind mind would be a Mr Norm tribute. It was going to be a tribute to the MOPE are hunter but as time went on I started this podcast. And I've I have come to the realization that this truck will now be promotional vehicle for the best moped enthusiasts driven podcast on planet earth. Talking Mo- pars so that's the plan for the truck. It's going to be the promo vehicle for talking Mo- pars and that does it for this episode of my friends. I'll see you next year. Right right here. Have a fun and safe New Year. And we'll talk again in twenty twenty. I'm your host Chris. Albrecht and that was talking Mo- parse thank you for listening talking. ballparks your direct connection to all things apart until next time remember no par left behind the more information about the show or to reach me. Please go to talking. Mo- PARTS DOT com.

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Dodge Hellcat Redeye, Electric Trucks, and Instagram Driving

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Dodge Hellcat Redeye, Electric Trucks, and Instagram Driving

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I it is like I love the weather over there and it's nice to be of a mile from the beach so but it's just it's just day and night just how it got. Its actually at night. I'm not even worried. I could sleep through it now and I'm so used to. It's during the day like when you're trying to get stuff done and make phone calls and it's just crime. Just the sound of crime happening man I. I completely understand that. Not Everybody by any means is in the business Situation that I'm in and I don't have to be in one particular area necessarily but man your your your peace of mind and your sandy and just the ability to not hear. Anything is extremely valuable in your quality of life and I can tell you since I've been here for three months. It's made a huge difference. I mean it it it really. You don't know how much difference it makes until you remove yourself from that situation for a period of. I don't know what would happen to me. Initially if it would like drive me mad or I would sleep for four days. Just free throw general. I mean just the option just happened to options to do it is. It's glorious man and I can't tell you you know nothing else has changed my way of life out here and my outlook is just completely different. It's just a it's it's a very motivating for sure so anyway. I wanted to throw it out. Good job at Ryan's I can't drive my cars all the time. It's funny said that I was just I was just a driving. The SES driving the The the Hell Cat Red Eye and I realized we touch a little bit on it last week. It's like so much power so much fine even with the thrill five tired of the back. Good luck trying to hook up and of course to the days that I have the car. It's raining and and you know we got this new shop that Adams building out and it's a little bit of a drive for me but he's like come come by we want. I WANNA lay out some of the one we've been working on designing it for a long time and as it builds we're making a few changes he's like. I want to lay out some of the lights and some of the fans and talk more about the floor. Can you come out on the weekend and I said. Yeah and I've got the Hell Cat Red Eye. It's there it's raining and I was like I'm not gonNA take it. I'm not gonNA take it. It's a it's a fifty minute drive. It's in the rain. It's all through downtown. It's all through whatever I'll be sliding all over the place a heavy time to gas. I was like forget it just took. I just took the other car I imagine when they debuted the hell cast and I was invited to PR and it was pouring rain and there was a forty minute drive from the hotel to get there and obviously you get the advantage of jumping in the hell can to drive in there and that in and of itself was absolutely terrifying not to mention going out on the track for the first time in this hell cat challenger. Yeah it was. It was unusable for me. I mean after about an hour. Yeah then I had a little bit more fun with it. And you know you know it's boundaries and know where you're GonNa kill yourself and where you're not but it's It takes a lot of work to keep that thing straight in the rain. It's crazy you said the other day. The real five on the front or the car tracks. Oh Yeah it's it's actually not that easy to drive. It was kind of interesting. It takes some really takes some concentration I mean. Don't get me wrong. The car superfund and it works. It does all the things that need to do. And you know spending a little time under the hood and just getting a better look at the engine and the Super Charger and the packaging of that and the red eye. The the scoops on the hood Howard brings an air a into the into the filter into the engine. It pretty cool how they do that stuff. I can see how that engine is. Such a has become a favourite among engine swaps and other vehicles. But but it's a handful for sure but I had a lot of fun but that's another that's another aspect that makes it enjoyable and how many cars are like that. Still you know so I mean it brings back hearkens back to the old days when you didn't have the computer assists and you know it was like driving ninety two nine eleven. I got I go around the corner and I stepped on the throttle. I'm dead yeah you know. It's funny because I was when I was driving the car around and I was like this car is kind of all over the road. And that's with modern day electronics and traction control and everything else like the truck that I'm building a lightening of building. I'm looking for crazy horse power. There's no electronics in that thing. And it's a truck so it's lightweight the back I'm like I'm it's going to be useless what I'm done with it but I don't know it's more fun to build it. Be Fun it'll be. It's not a normal project and you've got a lot of publicity not you got a lot of attention from it. I love talking about building it. I love working on it to go. I guarantee you. You didn't imagine that in the onset when you purchase that truck that you'd have nearly fund that you're having now now you'd be willing to bet. There's no way you thought that. No you're you're right definitely and I had some ideas on it and I knew it could be kind of actually. It's been down for like two weeks because the superchargers getting rebuilt and while I was waiting for that I sent like the steering wheel to get recovered. And it's the car that I walked past every day and go man. I really want to drive my truck again. I WANNA drive my truck again. I know there's many more steps to the modifications and south that I'm going to do to it but I like I said before like I always wanted this project to be driving a little bit And then modify it and drive it learn more about it see how it feels and try and figure out sort of the next thing and the next thing and and I know there was going to be like parts that go on it and then come off of it as I figure out what I like and what I don't like as opposed to a lot of cars like you know like my Cobra as well that got builders getting built you know on a left a garage and all of those products are pretty much decided and You know when it's done I drive it if if I don't like it I'm Kinda stuck with the way it is for a while but but this one. I'm kind of working through again. That's why we're sending the supercharge out to get rebuilt the kind of upgrades it you know. What does it do to the engine? And then the engines going to come out you know but it's fun along the way you're having a great time. I am and our listeners. Understand that and I guarantee you Struck a nerve with a number of them in the you know. Someone's probably gone out and purchased one of those and Bob with your suit and had some fun just like you have so. Yeah I think that would be fantastic. Because there's some fun ideas that we were doing on on the truck and maybe it's just influencing other builds maybe not other lightnings just other builds but the other fun part is Ben Is Been having a lot of discussions with people in the aftermarket world Most of the people that I that I know already and meeting some New People along the way but just sending emails back and forth a very recently with mark baller from Bowler transmissions. He's such a good dude and Rick Johnson from From gear vendors are ideas was to do as the new Ford six speed automatic in it. And and you know. Mark has a lot of experience with that. And he's basically saying that the power level that we're doing you can upgrade that transmission to handle some power but it doesn't really like to handle high temp areas high heat usability. I guess is the is the right term so meaning that we can drive it on the street and could probably make it to handle the power that we want but if we hit the track auto cross or the Drag Strip a few times that transmission doesn't really like high temperatures for long periods of time. So traffic yeah. I don't know how likes traffic. Maybe just sitting there. It's fine but I liked the idea of the transmission. I like the idea. That's kind of modern in and a works well in the vehicles that it's in now in a we looked at the Ford ten speed as well. There's just not a lot of aftermarket support for it yet. I don't believe there's an adapter kit yet that takes the ten speed and adapts it to a small block Ford engine. The MoD motors sure But but not the small block Ford. So that wasn't really an option so we're just going with something that's been proven that mark bowlers sort of Mastered IS IS HE BUILDS UP. A custom built for eighty. He's got the adapter plates and stuff to make it work on the Ford engine. He's got so much time into it. He knows how to program. It knows how to build it. You know how to to size up the torque converter properly for it and then he's also good friends with rick at gear vendors I spoke to gear vendors and I said hey you know for doing the forest can I use the gear vendors unit. Can I turn it into an eight speed? Aguirre vendors unit splits all the gears detaches to the back of the transmission like the tail housing of the transmission. Remove the gear vendors unit. Goes ON THERE AND IT. It adds another gear said that splits all of the gear so essentially it does two things for me is one when accelerating. I don't trop. Rpm As much when switching from gear to gear keeps me open that power band and two it does add an additional overdrive gear to it. So What I'm what I'm driving at seventy eighty miles an hour it. I can activate the gear vendors and maybe get a little less wear and tear on the whole thing and and a little bit better fuel mileage. But what we'll do is we'll talk to mark baller at some point. We'll we'll talk to Rick Johnson. A gear vendors. He can better explain how the gear vendors unit works but but very cool stuff and that seems to be the the direction Not An inexpensive direction. That's for sure. But go for this magic thousand horsepower number. Not The tires definitely. But it'd be interesting to see if we can get it at the engine and and And all that comes with some expensive upgrade so better put a wing on that some bitch something right like I don't know I'm just GonNa fill the backup at cement blocks or something just to I. Don't think that Ford came out with an Arrow package in the beginning. So get didn't that's as that's as about as big a brick as you can get out there and And I'm starting to think about some other revisions to the suspension and stuff to make it to make it work. I could tell you now the the best thing so far was the big brake kit that we developed for this thing because it stops so much better now and I can't imagine how useful it's going to be once we add that crazy power to it so we'll follow up on that and do some more giving us some more updates on that you know last week while this past week or so. I've been driving the red eye but before that I had the jeep. Gladiator we had some discussions about this. And Dan Edmonds was in the studio and he was talking about the The gladiator as well and I said that as much as I liked the vehicle. It's not the right fit for me. It's it is very much a utilitarian vehicle in my opinion and has a certain usefulness especially off-road that's really what it's made for and we understand that there's nothing better than than the GPS when it comes to that stuff and and. Dan Does a lot of off road testing and has a lot of knowledge on suspension travel and driveability and rock climbing and all that stuff I'm guessing that people are seeing the jeep gladiator as a functional tool as much as I am because unfortunately the sales are not great and compared to some of its competitors. They've been very very slow. Moving certainly vehicle that I thought was going to be a much hotter item than it is but I don't know they sold like forty thousand of them and it's just a fraction of what what some of the other companies the truck companies and stuff are selling and I'd like to see oh territorial breakdown of that because you know Bernie does which is my dealer right down the road here in Texas. Can't keep those things on the lot They really can't. And there's a huge contingent of jeepers out here you know crop rock crawlers and offered guys and yeah. I know but it surprises me on the coasts whether it be Florida or whether it be California that not more people are buying them because it seems to be like the perfect beach vehicle you know because you got your jeep you can take the doors off. You could be at one with the one with nature but he got the the the truck bed seeking home more so I don't know yeah. I'm not sure why it's it's not resonating with people as much as as much as we thought and all of the modified versions and the the Mo par assessories and other everything we saw. Some of those things are pretty bad ass or so many so much you can do to them. I don't know why it's not clicking as much but again you're right. Maybe it's just certain areas are not doing it or or whatnot but that also brings up the point that you know. This is a hot button for me. These dealer markups man Dealer markups. I've always said for the longtime and I'm not going to get to fired up about it. You're just throwing money out the door. It's just I I mean it. Just go into a store and buy eggs and you might as well just. Could you imagine that going yeah? Eggs are five ninety nine. But there's a five dollar deal dealer markup like for what like just because we said so like I don't know it's just a crazy thing and I actually because we can i. It's it's a weird thing because there's I don't know I just feel like the manufacturers kid kid. Crackdown on this a little bit more. Go listen well remember when remember when dodge did you know with the was the demon did when you know the dealer would have would get a higher number. If they charged you know sticker. Yeah Yeah we're doing something with that. I know things like Ferrari has a list and Ford. Gt has a list. And there's an application process. Obviously you can't do that for every vehicle but I duNno. It just seems kind of weird but I'll tell you why now I and I feel bad for the people that pay for them a pay for the markup because they feel like they want this vehicle enough I feel bad for. You shouldn't be paying. You should be smarter than that and to the dealer shouldn't be this is why so many people don't like dealers like they always sort of dread the idea of going. I gotta go buy a car and it's going to be a hassle and they're gonNa WanNa negotiate they always feel like they're gonNA get screwed and and it's just it doesn't have to be a shady business transaction and and in a time when they are losing customers right and last you think that they put go above and beyond to set a positive example for dealer to dealer as you know cutting their nose off despite themselves listen. Jeep gladiators came out and dealers. Were getting as much as ten thousand over sticker on these things and there's no reason why like jeep didn't say. Hey we're only making a few. You can't get them. There's you know they're like we can make as many as you want. Come in order. Get whatever you want. That's the business rumor selling vehicles. That's a business again. Anybody paying over sticker for that thing was insane well but if this is the Dan age where you want to be the first guy second guy on your block to have it and you're willing to pay it because he gives it means you got likes means you got attention means that hey look at me. I'm the man. And it's the people are paying. Exorbitant amounts on top of the retail price out of out of sheer ignorance. I either that either that or you know I mean somebody that has the money and doesn't care about paying over and really wants. That car wants to be the first time I you know there there. Are Those guys out there you know. Am I know but these people that are willing to go in just to be the guy that when I just? They deserve what they get. It's a kind of a silly thing. Because ten thousand over sticker on gladiators now that sales are slumping. There's as much as nine thousand dollars. Cash incentives on it so now. We're nine thousand under sticker for a vehicle. The people were are paying ten thousand over sticker for. That's that's insane. I mean think of that guys. Think of that ten thousand dollars that you gave to the dealer for nothing. They're laughing all the way to the bank. What you could have done with that money You know by the way you wanted to you could have just pumped ten thousand in aftermarket parts and fun stuff into her vehicle. You could have given it away you. Could you know anything like this is not an insignificant amount of money for tire vehicle at those things in the forties fifties? Yeah Yeah what I drove the Rubicon and all that stuff was had all the options. Like fifty eight thousand but yeah. That's a huge amount of money. You know that's a huge amount of money ten thousand dollars over sticker for nothing. You're right just for for for I don't know figure ego like I don't know guys don't do it. That's the world we live in the little look at the snickers commercial. There couldn't be one more appropriate to modern times then the at the campaign that's Nacre is doing right now. Yeah it's fantastic. It's it's an hits it right on the head and it shows how ridiculous people are in this day and age it truly does so. I could go on and on about that. But let's let's can we? Can I hit a a We gotta do this every week. Like a pet peeve or a you know I'm Kinda I'm Kinda back on that we did that years ago but I think we should bring it back You know as I said. We're in a day and age of social media and everybody wants to be that guy. Hey look at me but I am absolutely sick. And tired of people posting irresponsible videos of them hauling ass through traffic trying to show how cool their cars motorcycles does that and who follows me. I'm I'm blocking them and I you know. It's it's the most irresponsible thing you could do you know. And now we're all enough to have a license and everybody looks up to the elders whether it be an older brother or whether it be a father whether it be a mother whatever it may be man and we need to set a better damn example. Because it's it's it's absolutely ludicrous. It doesn't make any sense to me and you know I. I've one of the things on that on that on that topic that has come up. A lot is a lot of people have hit me up and said hey you should have this guy on the show. He won the gum ball thing or whatever the races across the country and it was like. Is this just a drive? Just like people doing the liquor road trip or is this a race. And they're like. Yeah it's it's a race. It's like a cannonball run. I it's fun to watch it in the movies and stuff like but it's it's not necessarily something I get behind and it's not something that I've participated in and and the offers have come in and they've said Oh you know what you want to drive one of these cars you gonNA raise from here to there and it's going to take a few days and there's checkpoints and there's a party at night and I was like you know socially it sounds like a lot of fun but I'm just not down with the racing across the country and one hundred miles an hour and laughing at the speeding tickets and and Leon we've all done. Yeah all the talent. It's time to. It's time to grow up. Everybody's made mistakes but now we have a we have a a a highly rated podcast and we need to set an example. I've got about two million followers on instagram. I need I need to set an example. We need to be responsible. And Hey it's there's nothing cooler than seeing a car you know smoking tires and and you know showing the public what it can do whether it be speed breaking or turning about whatever it is but guys and girls beef fricking responsible. Man I mean how about if your video and and you run into that car in front of you and it's A mother and three kids they end up flipping. You know I mean it's socially irresponsible like I said I've done it before and those days are over with right now you got you got what you just have to be off. I posted a video the other day. He's slamming the tires of my much. my Carbon car speed for car But that was on my driveway right. That was my driveway and I get. People may not be as fortunate as driveway like that and they may have to go but find something Renner track. You know do something. Don't do it through traffic. It's it's it's in basilic truly is called the boys over at Hoon again. Maybe they'll let you tear up their parking lot. There's a little track your parking lot. Yeah except you got like a dog running around everybody else. Call the WHO you guys see. If they'll let you tear up their place a little bit they always have some fun to rot and go to where you can do burnouts without a donkey walking across in front of you or a twenty five hundred pounds. Longhorn excuse I wanNA talk a little bit about some something electric car news. That seems to be the positive news in the automotive industry right now but before we do that let me tell you guys about Geico. Let's say you have a home. Maybe maybe rent it maybe own it either way. There's usually a lot of work to do over there but you know it doesn't have to be work all the time you know. It's easy to bundling policies with GEICO. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy that's a good thing because you already know you have a lot to do around your home already so just go to. Geico DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEICO DOT com. There's a lot of news in the in the electric car market world which is interesting and it's opening the doors for some of these startup companies and. I do questions some of the motivation behind them. Because I don't know it. They need so much money so much funding billions in funding to to make this happen. A lot of it is just because there's so many of government rules with testing and crash testing. And all that stuff you know. A lot of that is is fine. It's good we need some of that. We want safe cars but there's also a lot of bureaucracy that goes in there as well as you know. Look anybody that tries to build anything. Try pulling permits and see. How much is it going to cost? And it's going take for something completely silly but Nikola this is. Ev Startup company out of Phoenix Arizona. And they've been working on this pickup truck kind of a cool look and pickup truck You know kind of flared fended off. Roti almost raptor esque type pickup truck. And they're going to have two versions of this. One is an all electric powertrain? It's about a three hundred mile range using electric power train somewhere around. Four hundred and fifty four fifty five horsepower on average and the peak of over nine hundred horsepower. Nine hundred eighty pound feet of Torque but three hundred mile range and then the second option is a combination of hydrogen fuel cells that that combined with the battery packs to create a six hundred mile range. It's a cool looking vehicle I'm not sure how far along they are with it. I think they WANNA get in to more of a work fleet truck realm of things And go after the audience it. It's it's a pretty good idea by the way their truck is what the the Tesla's cybertrust probably should look like when it comes to market ability you know and and I it's funny because now we read. Oh it's almost a thousand horsepower. Zero to sixty in two point nine seconds and it seems like everybody says that now every day is three seconds honor three seconds at any electric vehicles under three seconds. But I don't know this might be an interesting company to take a look at. They've been testing this truck a lot and should be kind of interesting I think it's longer and wider than an F. One fifty but significantly shorter. So it's IT'S A it's it's should be should be pretty interesting but they've been putting a lot of focus on towing and climbing and You know what kind of hill grade you can go up and and and things like that so it'll be kind of interesting. Their competitors of course would be You Know Electric F. One Fifty Tesla Bolinger and a number of others ribian movie. And what's what's the latest on them. 'cause remember they were the hot topic. There was Ford's backing. Yeah they really yes. Arabian is is is cranking away. And they seem to be in a pretty good position and like you said. They've done a few rounds of funding. Now this past year so were the most significant I WANNA say four hundred million for four from Ford or round of four hundred million led by Ford and in a big investment from Amazon as well as others as well so I duNNo. They're sitting on one point. Something one point three billion or something on one point two billion in in recent funding which sounds like a lot and is but is necessary for these types of companies and two things have happened. That we've seen is is Amazon Approach Arabian and said I like your platform. I liked your technology and I know you're working with Ford and some vehicles in your developing your own pickup truck and suv but we want delivery vehicles. And when you're ready we want a hundred thousand delivery vehicles so they're basically putting in order to Rivi on to make one hundred thousand like delivery trucks like I don't know like a transit connect or like ups maybe not that big but something along the lines of of that. So that's a huge not just a huge investment for Ribian but a huge order for vehicles as well and that's the best way to raise money through sales certainly when you're trying to reach profitability and then Ford as we know we've had these conversations with them is four it's going to have an electric f. One fifty and Ford is going to be bringing an easy platform to their Lincoln vehicles. And we don't know if it's cars trucks and or whatever but Ford had said that their f one fifty is gonNA still be based off of their own technology. Maybe something that they've been developing with with the Mustang Mach ee could could translate into an f. One fifty but Ribian is using their technology. The power the new. Ev. Lincoln's and were. We don't know exactly what they're going to be yet. Lincoln aviator or Corsair or something new. We don't know but but an e version of that and I liked that those two partnerships seem super solid for Ribian as a startup company. They're well funded now. They've got huge orders and they've got development partners that are significant in the space. So I'm this is definitely a company. I'm going to be keeping an eye on as we all should be because they could be doing something new however they want they do have their pickup truck and they have their SUV that they want to release as well. And I'm I'm okay with that but I'm also okay with them being just a technology company that develops electric drive trains. Because once you start getting into selling your own vehicles now it comes down to there's a dealer network and there's customer service and there's repairs and warranties and and it's a whole new world which seems like look at the struggles of of a Tesla who's trying to do something on a large scale compared to you know some of these small supercar manufacturers that go through one or two dealers in the entire country you know and cars have to be sent back to the factory for repair and I don't think it's going to be able to get away with that. They're not gonNA look unless ravion comes up with some sort of like. Hey if you want the truck. There's no test driving. There's no whatever you go to their website. You order it like you would Amazon package and you get your truck in the mail and then what no warrant that if it breaks you send it back. I don't know that seems like the difficult. Portion is is the dealer network. But but I do like their technology and what they seem to be doing and I like the partnerships that they have so I definitely something worth looking at you know by now. We've got you know like we said we got Nicholas stepping into that into that area we've got GM GM A- tease their new. The new Hummer based off of probably a GMC pickup truck From what I understand. We'll get an official glimpse at this thing and unveiling on May twentieth of this year. We'll find out. That thing is actually going to look like and what it will be but the news that we have on it of course. They touted themselves as saying. Hey Hummers coming out thousand horsepower. Zero to sixty in three seconds seems to everybody saying delivery. We'll start in twenty twenty one but now they're saying we understand not everybody needs a thousand horsepower and go zero sixty in three seconds so they will have three engine options or power options if you will with with the thousand being at the top of the range and then two more affordable options or more affordable options underneath that. So it'll be interesting to see what they come up with as well but now with GM doing something like this now. We have a company that knows how to make trucks and has a dealer network and understand maintenance and repair and You know has the facilities in place to do that. So an electric Hummer pickup truck and Electric F. One fifty pickup truck could be game changers in in that world. These are you know trucks that are coming from established companies? And of course you know we've seen Chevy Bolton and you know and I think he has an electric vehicle and And and of course Toyota success with with the hybrids in in the pre us but I think in in truck world because they sell so many of these Ford in the in the Hummer are going to be two things to look at as well. I don't know I mean as much as we love horse power and noise I wouldn't I wouldn't completely throw out the idea of having an electric truck. You know like it's not really a project that you and I would take on but I'm not I'm not opposed to the idea It could be it. Could be interesting. You know certainly you can't deny about especially with the original numbers that Arabian was touting with their truck. Yeah look if these things can be as fun as fast as they are and have all the usability no transmission and stuff you can. You've seen these things you've seen the pictures that are doors on the sides and you can push right through them and you can store all kinds of things and hawk all kinds of things and if you can go a little bit off road if you can haul things around and you know I don't do a lot of off roading but we move a lot of stuff back and forth from one building to the other from one shop to the other and I'm moving parts around and picking parts for for for my car projects in in impressed vehicles and like. Hey what does it take to load up the back of a Ford explorer or whatever so you know? A daily driven. Electric truck is more appealing to me than electric car for some reason because I like the idea of of the added functionality of the truck and the fact that it could be fast as help. I like that more than the car side of it. Because the Carside it feels so sporty to me and and with that I do like I like the sound and I like the you know the feel and the vibration of whatever your muscle cars your McLaren's or whatever so. I think a little bit more into the idea of electric truck that I am electric car. What do you think I feel the exact same well? The same reason pretty much. I mean I don't know if it's something that I put in stable but I'm very curious about it and I'm much more curious about it than I am the electric vehicle. Actually the truth is is is your wife. Want a uses the truck probably more than you and I and I would be more curious for someone like that to spend a week or two with one of the electric trucks and half her say I like it or I don't have her say. Oh yeah there's all these extra doors and their storage and I used it for this or have or go it it. I'm not feeling it. You know someone who really because I can't prior out of that F. F. Two drivers my Ram you know like rent a car. And she uses her truck for you know for for all her chores and Whether it's pulling horses or or loading the horse crap in the back of all right everyday on yeah. She would be a a great a one to see the functionality of that. I'm down with this. I think the test is like a rancher lake. Someone like wanted to go. I'm I'm actually going to use this truck for truckstop and absolutely no question because that's no even though out in California there's a limited amount of people who use the trucks for actually what they're used for or what they're built for but Yeah I truly believe that. I think it could be a game changer. I really do I. You know I've I originally was intrigued because of the zero to sixty sixty speed of the damn thing and the and the range of it but I think they're going to be a hell of a lot of you she's for them and I thought I'm excited. I'm excited to see that. I tell you like the lightning that I have is the first truck that I've actually owned and of all the modifications I've done onto it. I will tell you that the most used or arguably the two most used changes I've done to that is one is the headliner. The LINEX bed liner and to that electric tahoe cover the pace Edwards. Electric Tana cover. I have used that thing more than anything. Because I'm constantly putting stuff in and out of the back of their truck. Even parts for the truck are stored in the back of the truck and locked up tailgate. Lock and the electric Tahoe. I swear I've used that thing more. I probably used it fifty times without ever starting the trucker getting in the trucks. I've arguably used it more than I've used the stereo in that truck is as I'm building. It sits there and I keep doing stuff on it I keep grabbing parts in and out of the back but anyway let me tell you guys about dodge. We love our friends at dodge. 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They had a car back in the day. Aero I thank or Ero something or other. Not The best looking car in the world in my opinion but seemed to perform pretty. Well didn't really hear much from the company for a while and they've been developing the the. Tara Tara the two terrorists this new supercar and what's interesting is out here locally in California. We've got our friend. Tom Nelson Nelson racing engines. Spit building crazy engines for a long time years ago on car cast. We had the David Fried Burgers f-bomb Camaro in here with the twin turbos on it and Gelson racing engines Nelson built built. The power plant in that thing has been doing some pretty crazy engines over the weekend and has invested more and more into his business with that crazy fully machined billet alien intake and He may even be doing his own. Engine blocks at this point and which is pretty. You pretty cool stuff well. They went to him for the for the engine on this thing and and if you look at it online it is nothing but art is absolutely beautiful. It is it is. It's pretty crazy and the dynamics as some of the some of the most efficient and sleek as Arrow dynamics out there I think the track. Oh fishing's he was like point two nine or two eight or maybe as low as two six like it's just phenomenal. And the first wine went to Manhattan. Just go to the bank. Go to Manhattan motorcars. Pull out one point eight and you can pick it up. Yeah there you go. Yeah you might as well pull out two million some taxes to cover as well but but here you go one thousand three hundred fifty horsepower on ninety one octane. But if you run it on e eighty five a jumps to one thousand seven. Hundred and fifty. This'll do zero to sixty in two and a half seconds and they claim it has a top speed of over three hundred miles an hour. It hasn't been tested yet. There things get scary at at that speed right. You know where you're going to do it. Can you stop? What's the era doesn't lift off the ground like a you know there's probably a lot of issues with going three hundred dollars an hour? It's a whole list shit. You gotTA with after go on one hundred fifty a anything over hundreds. If you've got to start dealing with a whole new batch Yo- yeah so I I mean I like the idea that on paper it can do that. We love to see it get tested and true track environment. Some sort of racing environment love to see what it does but it's a cool looking car. It's got these sort of Finns in the back. In lieu of like a full wing almost got like devil horns on the back rear remember. What the original one that they touted look like. I mean it was. If I remember correctly we had it on bull-run and one of the season's on bull run and we had it on the track and We we also had. They can't remember what the other car was an MC thirteen. I can't remember what it was but we. We ended up breaking both of them but back in the day they touted the you know the the performance of the vehicle. I believe and it was much more accentuated than the look of the vehicle man. I'll tell you what they have made lips leaps and bounds in the number of years. 'cause this to terror whatever you WANNA call. It is an absolutely gorgeous work alert. Yeah and it's a beast of a machine so my my only thought on it is as I saw some of the videos of it at the at the auto show in Philadelphia because the the first owner I guess is from Philadelphia and he wanted to debut at they are and promote like a charity or something that he's doing brought on bunch of his cars in the collection and it looks cool but he ordered black. It's like a metallic black with some red accents on it and it looked cool when you really kinda zoomed in because the black is beautiful and they did a great job but I would really have liked to seen it in a little bit brighter colored. Just you can see the lines of the vehicle more like from a distance and on and on video. It's it's tough to see all the the curves in the swooping features of it by it is. It is a pretty cool. It is a pretty cool car. And it's American supercar. What is it Like three thousand pounds or something twenty. Five hundred pounds. Yeah it's it's it's I don't even know if it's twenty five hundred might even be less than that I mean. Just it's it's pretty amazing. The engine is is incredible and everything has to just be aluminum and carbon fiber at this point anyway. So you guys look it up the Tara it's Se is the company SEC. Supercars or American. I forget what it was but And my my Instagram Takes five minutes and go on. Instagram. And look at Glickenhaus. Oh Yeah it's my suggestion for the week yeah Anyway check that out as well but some cool stuff so before we wrap up. I want to remind you guys. Tickets are now available. Were doing a car cast live. It's at the Petersen Museum. It's going to be March. Twenty first. There are various stages of tickets there. I think They start at about sixteen bucks. I was Kinda hoping it would be like free but sixteen bucks is pretty cheap and that includes take it to the museum so if you just WanNa go. Mba Spectator at the car. Show and walk around the museum. We did it last year and it was a little confusion as to. Can you go in the museum? Can you knock on the museum? Carshield only sixteen bucks. Gets you in the door for the whole car. Show in the museum and then from there you can show a car. It's got a couple of blocks. And there's a couple of different packages we can stay for a screening and alive podcast. But it's It's going to be I think in the afternoon I think it starts around two o'clock and maybe goes too late at night. I'm not exactly sure but Go to Peterson Dot. Org SLASH CAR CAST. Tickets are available. It's March twenty first. There's a car show so hopefully bring your cars out There will be a live podcast. That will be a screening of Shelby American. You may have even already seen the movie on Netflix. But it's so much fun to see it in a live environment with other people that that appreciate that and I'm talking with Adam Karol. Yeah you know and look and we're we're we're trying to pull some extra footage and some like DVD extras and. Hopefully we can screen some of that stuff as well. So you might be able to see some stuff that you haven't seen before it's GonNa be it's GonNa be a fun event. We will be judging car shows. We gotTA FIGURE OUT THE PLAN. Bill if you can make it out because we want you to be a part of this we gotta just take a look at your. Wwe schedule your schedule. I know you're busy but but but we were GONNA have trophies for the car shows and by the way I want anything like this. This isn't don't just you know. Roll out in your in your near Ferrari or whatever you have that because you think it's super fancy I love those. Bring him out there. But bring us the coolest off anything that you stop your project cars. Tell me about your project cars. Show me that you're working doesn't even have to be done. Bring it out there. Show it off. We love you bring lightning you get in three. That might not be the worst idea. Ever few re-lighting get in for a bite. We will give out my pick of the show Adams. Pick of the show best of show and people's choice. I think those are the awards. We're going to deal if bill if you're going to be there we'll do. Your pick of this show is well and we pick some pretty crazy stuff last year when we did this. So it's a fun event Get your get your tickets. Get your car. Registered Peterson Dot. Org Slash car cast and come out for that by the way. If you haven't been to the museum museums bat asked this is they. They did a hell of a job doing it. And the The Jesse James Hadfield exhibit from James from METALLICA. His exhibit is there. 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Yeah and we're we're about the break drown wave slams and hopefully people won't throw me under the trains and you know what a jerk I am for building a garage like but hey man I worked my ass off. I deserve so rock and roll putting a big Jim in there. I think right one eight hundred square feet nice. Look now. It's your career right like this is the next. I don't know how long have your life like this is. This is an important part of not just being healthy. You get paid to be in that Jim Buddy. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA and I haven't had it for the last three months and low and behold my fifty-three-year-old ashes putting the tights on again in three weeks. Well excuse me less than three weeks last mess. Mess around get your ass going. Let's get this weight room up quick so I can be a little bit of Goldberg. Yeah all right. Thanks Buddy will allow. We'll chat next week. 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Episode #66: Hi-Performance Heritage - 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona

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Episode #66: Hi-Performance Heritage - 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona

"Welcome to talking mopeds episode number sixty six and another installment of high performance heritage. This time around we're going to be highlighting the first of the winged warriors. The nineteen sixty nine dodge charger daytona. I even have a little story about a local daytona that i'd like to talk about that directly relates to the origins of the moped hunter. So it's perfectly into this episode and we'll get to that story. Plus our main subject after project carved the week high performance parts and listeners stories so without further ado if you are a mo- pont you you're in the right place. Don't go anywhere you're tuned into the best mo- pont who's eastern podcast on planet earth and. I'm your host chris. Albrecht better known as the mo- par hunter and this is talking parse high performance heritage. You're listening to talking mobile with hunter. Your direct mention all things moepo. This week's projet carve. The week was the nineteen sixty nine. Dodge dart posted on the moped hunter. Facebook page on tuesday january fifth at nine a. m. let's read the ad nine thousand nine hundred sixty nine dodge dart sixteen thousand five hundred dollars. Nineteen sixty nine. Dodge dart very well built four forty. Tci seven twenty seven dana sixty with four fifty six in spool fiberglass front rear deck lead from bumper. Just put down the direct floor. Liner front end has been completely rebuilt. Everything has been changed including the torsion bars retires or hoosiers that don't have fifty miles on them. Amnesty distributors six. Al box brand new holly xp carb too much to list completely rewired with ron. Francis wiring also have the box with the extra wiring for other applications plus instructions also frontiers new and converted over to kelsey hayes. Four piston calipers shocks in front or new shocks rear. Our new drag shocks car is very fast. Title status is clean. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking here he goes again with another dart drag car. And you're right. I can't help that. I love dodge darts and i can't help that. I love drag car projects. They're just cool. I really do enjoy them. I think they're awesome. And i think that great project cars and this car just happens to be another dart. The reason why. I like this one so much is because it's pretty much ready to go to me. It looks like it just needs a few finishing touches and you're off to the races. I should say that like with any race car project. You'd go through this thing from top to bottom. But just based on what i see. I think it's a great candidate for a drag car project especially at under twenty grand. I mean this thing sitting sixteen five. I think there might be a little bit of room but you know just looking at the car and comparing it to other things that i've seen out there for maybe half the price the seems like a good bye. I will say this though. It may be kind of a handful on the street. And that's only because of the spool and the rear end ratio for those of you. That don't know a spool is a fully locked rear diff unlike locking diff the school locked at all times. So when you're turning you're gonna feel the rear end grabbing and gripping the road because the wheels will be unnaturally turning at the same rate of speed so it's kind of impractical parking taking turns and stuff. It might feel a little bit weird almost like if you're a four wheel drive on the street you know and you crank the wheel all the way and you try to turn. You're gonna feel that rear end like skipping almost The other issue that i saw was the four fifty six years. I think it would be really fun. Obviously light to light on the street. But i'd imagine if you're on the freeway a lot of could be an issue but that said you know a lot of people run these gears all the time even on the street so i guess it just depends on the type of driving. You'll be doing and if you're willing to put up with it it might be okay if you only take the car out occasionally on the streets but at sixteen thousand five hundred you have a great headstart to a fun strip car. That can possibly be driven on the street. It's a big lakhdar with some bigs and littles also has what looks to be centerline. Auto drags on it. So that's that's a plus in my book. I love those wheels. So big and little auto drags cool in my book. It's gotta side exit exhaust aluminum radiator. It's got a nice racing shift in it. Some cheap racing seats grant steering wheel. You know this things got some potential you know does it have its flaws sher- but we can work around those and we can take this platform as you get it and then make it your own. You know there's still room to improve and you know that's sure to tickle anymore. Part theseus fancy especially mind the thing even has really bars too so if you did drive it on the street the only addition to make it even more intimidating would probably be a parachute but discards cool has a ton of potential and it sure to turn heads on both the track and the street got nice orange paint a black bumble bee stripe. It's got a giant hood scoop on the front like the old school. I don't know what you call it like a pro street hood scoop. I guess I think that's the word i'm looking for. I think that's the description i can give. But it's not the typical hood that i would like to see on a mo- par but i guess it works. I like hemi hood scoops or six. Pack hood scoops. I think those are cool But it's got four. It's got the fiber last trunk so it's got four pins on that to hold it down Like i said it's got the whealy bars so cut that bad ass aesthetic to it I love big and little's so you've got the big fat meets in the back and the little skinny upfront. I think that just looks bad. Ass on the road But sixteen five. I've seen a lot of cars that are really close to that price. That are nowhere near as complete. You know. this thing's got an aluminum dash. You know if you ask me. I think it needs a little bit of work on the inside. He's got the sound deadening material on the floor. No carpet or anything like that. I think he some carpet in this thing. You know maybe clean up the cage a little bit. Maybe even just redo the cage. I'd like to see inside the trunk. I'd like to see what's going on in there. There's a lot of details left out about this thing so at sixteen. Five a little questionable. But that's why you go and look at a car. Check it out for yourself get your own two eyes on it and see what it's all about but that was project carve the week nineteen sixty nine dodge dart posted on the mo- hundred facebook page on tuesday january fifth at nine. Am nomo par left behind. This week's high performance part belongs to the nineteen seventy dodge super bee featured on season one episode eight of the old fx show nip tuck. I don't actually know much about the car. In fact i almost missed it but thankfully somebody was paying attention. My wife and i were watching this show. And she said hey. I think that was a super b. Of course. I was on my phone not really paying attention. So i hit rewind and sure enough. She was absolutely right. I'm so proud of my wife. Taught her well The car was yellow with the black. Reverse see stripe slammed in the front and sitting on some baby moon wheels. It had some weird black paint accents on the front end as well as like a funky stripe that you know. I suppose was supposed to coordinate with versi stripe but it just looked weird to me but still cool car unless you could tell. It was built probably sometime in the nineties. At least that's what. It looked like to me. And i did a little digging. The car might have also been featured on the show. My name is earl and the movie. Bad boys two neither of which i confirmed. But that's what i heard either way. It's always nice to see him. O par on tv. That was this week's high performance part. The yellow nineteen seventy dodge superbeets featured in the tv show nip tuck. It's time once again for listeners stories. This week's listener story was sent to us by our friend tad with the super bee. Who just happens to be the record holder for most messages ever left by a listener. It's always good to hear from tad. So let's hear what tad had to say. Chris tad here I the new year couldn't hold on. I believe message after. I listened to that long long long story about this van that you can't all the trigger on though dude by the van a three quarter the engine tranny. I mean not alone even if you scrap the van. You're gonna make your money back if that's what it was about but it's a van so i'm assuming this new your house somewhere or at least a couple of hours but here's another story for you in terms of why she just by it and how much effort i've put into buying a car so the sixty four land cruiser that i found. When i was up in montana i ended up having to leave up there in a storage lot When i left so about four months later. I really wanted it back. The only way i could do that was to fly a spokane rent a haul drive from spokane. All the way over to a small town in montana called midi montana. So i drive all the way over there. Get there like four in the evening. I mean it's a small town. Everything's closing down. I find the only place in town that is renting you all trailers and get it hooked up drive over to the storage lot once again. This is wintertime so there's snow everywhere isn't the storage live at a few things into storage unit as well as through in the back of the all. Luckily one of them like you mentioned your Story was coming along so i tire chain. I go to the hardware store. Violent a fifteen foot pizza chain. Bring it back rapid around the actual get my finally. Get anchors rear up on the trailer struck down. And then i had a basically drove straight through. I think it's close to twenty hour. Drive for bond hannah back down to california. Maybe not that long. But it's it's a fifteen hour drive but So if this is near you if it's in the woods only three hundred fifty bucks told the trigger dude like literally if you don't tell me where it is all drive up there and buy it until it back down. You know part part of the story of the cars new by is how we got them and you got quite a history argued up with this one so you might as well get it so that when sitting at your house you can tell people all about the back and forth and the not wanting to pull the trigger and just get that thing man. It sounds awesome. So i'm excited for you so I hope you get it Three hundred and fifty bucks. Just do it man all right. How happy new your brother tad. I have good news and bad news. Which do you want i. i'll go ahead and give you the bad news. The van got sold the weekend. I was ready to pull the trigger on it. So lesson learned. I should pull the trigger to begin with. I'm kicking myself but not kicking myself. You see. I told the lady the last time i had contacted her before. She told me that the van got sold was a week before i made the call to tell her that. I was still interested in the van so i told her. Hey you know i understand. You got people come to look at it. I'm willing to buy right now but you want me to haul it out same day. I need organize and arrange Transport for the car. So i had the trailer lined up. I had a coupla things. I needed to take care of. I and i also wasn't positive about the storage of the fan. I had a place. I was going to store it and i'll save you guys all the details. I possibly lost that storage at least for now so was in a predicament. So when it came down to it. It was a week before i had intended to reach out to the lady and i was like you know what i gotta pull the trigger on this thing. You know. I just felt in my gut like all right. You know it's now or never I was really hoping that somebody would just buy it. So that you know i i could stop thinking about it because i really do have too much other stuff going on to worry about another project at this point in time but like you were saying you know i understand you know the value of the rear end the engine and just the fact that it's cool he you know So i really wanted the van. And i reached out to her and i said hey at the van she said yep still got a couple of people coming to look at it and i'm like okay you know and you know once again. I called her bluff. Because i could have went and grabbed the trailer and i could win over there and i could have bought the van so i didn't. I called her bluff. And i was like you know what i really you know. I know it's cheap. Three hundred and fifty bucks is like nothing in the mo- par world. You know what i mean so i was like you know what i'm just going to see how it goes because like i said the storage of it was going to have to come to my house and i live in a neighborhood with a stupid. Hoa which is a homeowners association which means if they don't like the way something looks at your house in your yard etc the they can quote unquote fine. You right now. i really don't give a you-know-what about this. hoa. I'll do whatever i want. You know because most of my stuff is cool anyway. Now this van probably would have been unsightly until i pressure watched it. But that's okay you know kick rocks. You know what i mean. That's what i would have told the. Hoa president he. You know what i mean. I would have had it insurrection at his house. 'cause that's what i should do said that that was wrong. Sorry guys but i was. You know i was sitting there thinking to myself. Okay do i. Do i not do it do it. Do i not do it. And i was like you know what i'm gonna sit on it for one more day. I'm gonna sit on it for one more day. And i'm going to reach out and i'm sure i'm sure i'm positive she still going to have it. I'll go grab the trailer tomorrow morning. And i'll go over there with cash will make the deal and i'll figure out what to do this. Van and lo and behold the next day. I was informed that it had sold. Part of my heart was crushed. And the real true true mo- pont who's iast inside me was like i knew i should have just pulled the trigger and god that thing but then i started thinking about it a little bit harder and i was like you know what three hundred fifty bucks is. Three hundred fifty bucks. I still have two projects that need more stuff more parts and i already have a thousand bucks waiting for this other van that my friend stacy has so you know gosh i really would have hated the part that ran out. I really would have wanted to at least get it running and have a cool van of cruise around in but at the same time. I've got two cars right below me as we speak in my garage. That need to get up and running. And like i said that still need parts so it would be unfair to the rest of my projects. Anta the van to bring this one on board to. I don't need four mo- park projects at this point right now. Because i have no place to put them so i'm in a i'm in a predicament. I need to sell my house and get a house with some property and a shop. That is my next life goal. I really need to make that happen. So that i can keep you know pushing this mo par thing But for now. I'm really going gung-ho in my truck so i can at least have some fun I would really like to get that van going. That i'm buying from stacey you know pretty quickly i at least would like to cruise that around during the summer too because i've got some special plans for that My dart still got a long ways to go on the dart every time i look at it. I get discouraged. And i'll be lying if i said that i haven't thought about just selling it and getting something else to start over again because i feel like i keep losing motivation on it. I keep looking at it and go to okay. This is what i need to do. Let's do that this weekend. And then i get to and i look at it on my. You know which sucks and that's my fault. It's my fault for letting get to the point. Where now i'm bored with it. You know but every once in a while something will come up. And i'll go down there. And i'll tinker with it and i'll get motivated again so i just need to give more time in that garage and i need to start throwing all these parts. I have at the dark. So i can actually see some progress. That's what's holding me back. I'm not seeing the progress. So that's what i'm working on. Those are my goals before. I get this other van I need to start making a little headway with these other projects i got i would like to at least get one of them out of the garage so i can get my wife off my back because her car. Her jeep has been sitting out in the driveway. And that's not fair to her plus. It's a nice car so high. I don't want the grand cherokee sitting outside when it could be inside especially since we owe so much money on it so i'm going to get my blue truck going get out of the garage. I'd like to drive a lot. You know this spring and summer and then you start cranking away at this dart and other van. I've got some big plans for this other van. I'm so excited. And i haven't shared pictures publicly really of this thing so i think i'm going to do that soon. So you guys get an idea of what i've got coming up or actually you know what norm not users have to wait for the video to come out and you're probably gonna to see most of that if you become a supporter of the moped hunter page but more on that later for right now tad i get what you're saying man i really i really you know. I'm kind of on the fence. Was it a good deal. Yes the van was a great deal. Did i need it. No do i really have the means to get that van to a respectable point that i can cruise. I mean yes and no i just have too many projects going right now and i'm just not in a in a place literally. I really can't do it at my house. Because i have to think about the van that already committed to from stacey. 'cause i love that van. So that one's come that's already. I've already with that other van. I've already locked in all the space. I have at my house right now. So i guess i'm just going to have to settle with the other van and my dark chuck for now but let me tell you something. When i have property in a shop things are going to change. I will no longer have to think about the space. That is the big hold back for me. I've had money to buy a couple of different projects here. I just haven't pulled the trigger. Because i don't have the space and it's really killing me because i know there's a couple of projects right now that i'm looking at that it's like you do. I need them right now. Nobody liked the like that man. It would be nice to have a place to put it. If i had the property and the shop to just by that three hundred fifty dollars van and keep it there just put it on the back burner you know would prevent it from rotting any further. That's what i would have done. But i'm not in the position so you know tat i if i had heard this message from you and she still had the van. I probably would have given you the information as that. Go by it. You know what. I mean heck out and then you can buy from me you know when you get up here but that's not the way it worked and you know i'm not really a big religious guy but i did say after i looked at it the first time and i started regretting it. I was like you know what lord if that van was destined to be mind. Then when i'm ready to pull the trigger. And i go to get the van. It'll still be there and when i finally said you know what i think. I'm ready to go get that van. It was gone and you know. I wasn't even. I wasn't even positive. I wasn't even sure i thought i think i'm ready to go. Get that band you know. That's not the right. Mindset the mindset. Is i'm going to get the trailer. I'm gonna get all my stuff. And i'm going to go get that in you know and i didn't have that mindset so it is what it is. I'm i'm still happy. You know i'm not depressed. Do i wish. I had the means and the place to be able to get that van and take it on as a future project. Yes absolutely but that's not what happened so we're moving on. I can't wait to show you guys this other van. That's going to be a really fun video A weekend out of it. So that's coming up in march. I'm gonna do that the week of my birthday. I took the week of my birthday off specifically to go get myself that van because i thought it would be a great birthday present. So that's what we're doing. Thanks for sending in your message. That was actually part message. Part story so we're going to say that was listener stories. If you want to hear your story on the show you can do so by emailing me. Or leaving me a voicemail that i will play on the show. My email is chris at talking. Mopeds dot com and the number to call for voicemails is two zero nine. Twenty eight mo par. I look forward to sharing your mopey stories. It's no secret that i love wing cars in fact one of the inspirations to start the moped hundred facebook page was actually a sixty nine charger daytona rotting under a tarp local to me. The car's always been a local seattle area legend. Eventually ending up. Where i i saw it in lynnwood washington just north of seattle. I remember driving to the alderwood mall with my dad. One day and i just happened to glance over and spotted this car under a rotted old blue tarp the tarp silverado that i could actually see part of the wing and the word daytona on the quarter panel. I nearly shat myself. I'm not even joking. I must've been in my early teens at the time so this was like twenty something years ago and wing. Cars are just something that you do not see in people's driveways rotting away in this area. I mean you rarely see any mo- pars you know that our old rotting away and driveways around here. I mean they're around for sure but there aren't in any level of abundance. That's for sure you don't see a lot of them and when you do you definitely stop and look so when i saw it i yelled for my dad to turn around and we did another drive by to see it my dad i never went and tried to get the good old fashioned cold. Knock to find out about the car. Which i regret to this day because it wouldn't be until i was thirty years old. I would actually knock on the door myself to see it was actually for sale. That was in two thousand fifteen. It wasn't for sale. Then and the rumors circulating now is that the guy either wants a brand new maserati and trade or two hundred grant and that's fair enough. I guess i you know when you own the car and you aren't outright trying to sell it the ball's in your court you know what i mean so you can ask whatever you want for it if somebody comes up and says hey how much you want for the car. You know. it's a four forty autocar red with a white stripe and is at least the last time i saw in disrepair waiting for either serve mother earth to claim it back or for the person with the deepest pockets to come and save it and unfortunately the person is in me. Because i don't have those deep pockets but at some point the center section of the wing was stolen which sucks for the owner and for the car. I've actually heard from a few locum. Komo par guys. They actually know who took it. I never entertained that conversation though because the fact that someone would do that. Frankly it pisses me off you. Don't touch another man's car period and you especially should not disgrace a wing car you know or any mo- part that isn't yours period. You know that's all there is to it. But i was told the car wasn't for sale when i went and knocked on the door and that they actually have a stack of phone numbers of people who wanna buy it so no surprise there and i'm sure a large majority of them have more money than i do. So that was just a quick little story of one of the cars at inspired me to start the mo- par hunter. And i thought it would be fitting to mention for this installment of high performance heritage highlighting the nineteen. Sixty-nine dodge charger daytona which is one of the most sought after mo- pars on the planet a lot of non mopeds folks and even some moped to think that the wing cars of nineteen sixty nine in one thousand nine hundred seventy where the ugliest cars of the muscle car era. I could not disagree more. In my opinion the dodge charger. Daytona and the plymouth. Sue bird are the two cars that set chrysler far apart from all the competition during the muscle car era. And i'm being literal when i say that. They were winners as soon as their tires. Hit the track for me. I just don't believe my life will ever be complete. If i don't someday own one even if it's a tribute and i know that wouldn't be as cool as the real thing but my pockets probably will never be deep enough to enter that special club of people that are fortunate enough to own the real deal but what makes these aero cars these famous wing cars so special aside from their wild looks well to understand him. You gotta look at their origins and that's why today we're gonna take a look at the first of two wiley unique winged warriors. Outlandish ridiculous brash boisterous. Perfect amazing fast unique and bad ass. Those are some words that come to my mind. when i think of chrysler's winged warriors the first being the nineteen sixty nine dodge charger daytona. The daytona wasn't actually intended to be the wildest looking muscle carver produced. Actually you know it was only produced for one year to make it eligible for competition in nascar the daytona made its debut in spring of nineteen sixty nine and five hundred and three wherever produced during its short production run. It would go on to be the first car to hit two hundred miles. An hour on a nascar superspeedway with buddy baker behind the wheel exactly fifteen years to the day before i was born on march. Twenty fourth nineteen seventy at talladega but it officially debuted in nascar at the alabama international motor speedway in september of nineteen sixty nine at the nineteen sixty nine talladega. Five hundred where was torius. And although it was considered the worst race in nascar it was monumental for the daytona. And maybe someday i'll go into why that was considered the worst race in nascar history but for today or focusing on the daytona and the daytona made for showrooms was available with either a four speed or torque flight automatic transmission and. You had two engine choices. That three hundred seventy five horsepower for forty magnum or for the lucky seventy cars. That had it the legendary four hundred and twenty five horsepower. Four hundred and twenty six cubic inch hemi for the forty cars. One hundred and thirty nine of them were equipped with four speeds compared to the heavy's twenty two four speeds. I'll let you figure out the rest of that math. But let's just say that the heavy for speeds are pretty rare. Stopping power came by way of eleven inch drum brakes. And you'd be peeling away from dealer on either fourteen inch or fifteen inch wheels and tires depending on whether or not you got the hemi or the four forty looking at the prices of these cars in today's market. It almost makes you sick to think that you can actually buy one of these off the showroom floor from your local dodge dealer for just a few bucks shy four grant. He knows like thirty nine hundred some some but less than four grand you could get one of these wing cars and then later on down the line depending on which one you got you could. Actually you know you can make a lot of money on these cars. You buy it for four thousand and fifty years later. You sell her for you. Know if you've got a hemi four-speed car you're talking. You know easily half a million million you know depending on you know what options you had. What the color was and all that good stuff. You know the rare the car the more it's worth so you might have just your four thousand dollar car might make you a million dollars you know if you were to bought one back then i wonder how many people actually bought a daytona knowing that someday it would be a huge investment. You know what. I mean you buy it for less than four grand and then you know fifty years later. It's worth six figures. Maybe even seven figures. That's insane but these cars were huge. They were a whopping two hundred eight and a half inches long. Thanks to the added steel nose cone which added nearly a foot and a half to the standard length of a charger and it actually created twelve hundred pounds of downforce on the front end. It used the hood and fenders from what was to be the one thousand nine hundred. Seventy dodge charger had a giant almost two foot. Tall functional cast aluminum rear wing. That was actually adjustable to provide six hundred plus pounds of downforce. It had stainless steel a pillar covers to help with aerodynamics functional fender mounted air extracting scoops of flush back window shortened deck lid. And if you were to look under the front of the car you would see some interesting things. Behind the front spoiler you would see a couple of editions to aid in aero-dynamics belly pan and a rubber shield in front of the front suspension components to reduce drag. These cars left the assembly line originally as char teas and were sent to creative industries for the arrow package modifications a couple more interesting notes about the daytona were that the arrow program was a serious engineering effort and none of the aspects of the package on the daytona were flash. It was built purely for function specifically to win nascar races. In fact the charger daytonas were banned from nascar competition for being too dominant. And we're determined to have an unfair advantage. Can you believe that. That's what we call winning. All right so the charger daytonas. They're really cool cars and you can get into the nitty gritty details of these things. But i just wanted to give you for this high-performance heritage episode. I wanted to give you a quick rundown of what the daytona was. And what made it special and one of the fun things about being a moped enthusiasts is digging into these things yourself and there's so much information about the wing cars out there. They've actually written entire books about these cars. They were so cool and there was so much involved into their creation. That i suggest you go out and read some of those books. That's what i'm planning to do. Because i know there's so much information about how it was engineered. You know all the wind tunnel testing and that people that actually designed missiles are the ones who helped chrysler figure out the arrow dynamic aspects of these cars which is crazy. Because if i remember right chrysler had like a missile program or something. Something crazy like that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk all about that on a future episode but this is just a quick rundown of the charger daytona for those of you. That aren't too familiar with them. So that was this installment of high performance heritage for the nineteen sixty nine dodge charger. Daytona one of the coolest cars that mamo par over came up with. It's just one of those cars that when you see a daytona. Are you see a super bird. You can't help but just be an off of how crazy they are. You know they're insane if you've ever seen one in real life know if you've seen one in person you just look at the thing ago. I cannot believe this was even offered on a showroom floor. And you know back then. People didn't even want you know what i mean. They often sat on car lots forever because people just thought they were hideous. And you know. I'm the kind of jerk back then. If i would have seen that car would. I want that thing. I mean they're just gosh. If you could come up with the most cartoony car in the muscle car it had to be the plymouth super burden. Dodge charger daytona. That's all there is to. They're just insane cars and the prices of them man. You know you can find projects going for homeless hundred grant. You know what. I mean hardcore projects. And you know if you're fortunate enough deep enough pockets you can get a really nice one for six figures and you know if i ever in a position where i have that kind of money have to. I would have to buy one of those things. Anybody that is lucky enough to have a wing car. I envy them. I'll admit that. I have so much envy for those people. Because they're such cool cars and they're such important pieces of the fabric of mope our history. They set chrysler apart from everybody else. No other car manufacturer had anything that was nearly as crazy as those wing cars. They're amazing cars. I could sit here all day and just talk about how cool they are and some people hate him. Some people think they are the ugliest thing ever. I am completely on the other end of that spectrum. I think they're cool. I think they are the coolest cars the chrysler ever made. That's my opinion. And i'm sticking to it but they're winners and that's all that really matters. I hope you enjoyed my little highlight of the charger daytona. In this installment of high-performance heritage the next installment of high-performance heritage will be about the successor of the daytona. The almighty nineteen seventy plymouth super bird so look forward to that in the coming weeks before we shut this baby down one more interesting thing. That tone were equipped with was to. Jack's one bumper jack in one scissor jack why to jacks will. The front end did not have a traditional bumper to jack up. That's why there you have it. My friends another episode of talking mopeds high performance heritage is in the books for everything you need to know about this podcast. Please visit talking. Mo- parse dot com and. Don't forget that you can send me your stories. Questions comments complaints suggestions. And everything else on your mo- partick did mind to chris at talking mopus dot com or leave me a voice message on my voicemail box at two zero nine twenty eight mo par to hear yourself on the show special thanks to my friends over at hemi pages dot com hem pages a directory source for the gen three hemi and mo- part aftermarket including all of it's related connections and content. They are also the brains behind the build. Mo- park community project car. The nineteen sixty eight dodge dart superstock tribute car powered by a gen. Three four hundred and twenty. Six cubic inch supercharged. Tammie called the dark pack for more info on the dark. Pack the build mo- project and to check out the directory visit hemi pages dot com and don't forget to add it to your home screen or favorites list. Thank you also to my buddies over a diy. Hemi dot com. They are another company. Run by moped enthusiasts. That are also bookmarked on my favorites list. 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How Does Henry Ford's Feud with the Dodge Brothers Affect Businesses Today?

BrainStuff

06:02 min | 1 year ago

How Does Henry Ford's Feud with the Dodge Brothers Affect Businesses Today?

"Today's episode of brain stuff is brought to you by AT and T, and it can wait eighty two percent of people admit to using their smartphone while they're driving were all used to seeing it. But ninety three percent of people don't approve of distracted driving. We feel awkward speaking up about it. And it's time that changed because it's not worth the risk a text alike, selfie, whatever it is when you're driving. It can wait. So the next time you see a friend family member or other human using their phone while they're driving. No that it's okay to say something distracted driving's, reckless. Take a pledge to end distracted driving at it can wait dot com. A message from AT and T. Welcome to brain stuff. A production of I heart radio. Hey, brain stuff, Lauren vulva bomb here when it comes to great American feuds. There's Hamilton Burr Hatfield and McCoy, and of course, Cardi and Mickey which my coworkers shore me as a funny joke some of the most famous disputes in history have been settled in all kinds of ways with pistols murders. And yes, even rap battles. But the truly American way of handling big beefs is to hand them over to lawyers and drag them into the courts, which means that even the pettiest rivalries can have wide and long standing impacts on our society. The legal tussle that took place between Henry Ford and the brothers John and Horace dodge helped shape auto industry, as we know it the feud also laid the groundwork for how judges even today look at the relationships of businesses with their shareholders, employees and competitors. There is no Henry Ford without John and Horace dodge. And there is no dodge v Ford Motor Company if a once formidable partnership hadn't dissolved into infighting for a leg up on the burgeoning American automobile market. Ford and dodge are some of the most iconic names in US carmaking history. It turns out that the guys behind both brands started out on the same side. The dodge brothers and unruly pair known in Detroit for their drinking prowess and affinity for knocking people out cold in Barbara all's got started in the car business in nineteen hundred building Oldsmobile transmissions just a few years later. They were the chief supplier and outside machinists for Ford Motors bottle, a the companies I automobile, they also ponied up a large portion of the twenty eight thousand dollars that Henry Ford received from investors to get started that investment soon paid off Ford Motor turn to thirty-seven thousand dollar profit less than three months after selling the first bottle a but the dodgers had bigger plans. They used the dodge brothers Motor Company banner in nineteen fourteen to launch their own car. The model thirty thirty five the vehicle was intended to compete directly with the Ford model t. Henry Ford did not take kindly to this new competition. He made a pair of decisive moves to try to take the wind out of dodges sales Ford stopped paying dividends to the dodge brothers and other investors, then he slashed nearly two thirds of the price tag on his cars. We spoke with Mark Hodak an adjunct professor in New York university's business school. He explained that. While the dodge brothers were Ford's primary target, quote Ford didn't want any shareholders, he considered shareholders to be parasites the dodgers promptly sued Ford, claiming that he had priced his cars. Too low thereby cheating shareholders of potential income, by the way, their suit was filed the day after Henry's son's wedding. And the dodge brothers were guests at the reception. Anyway, the ensuing legal battle eventually found its way up to the US supreme court. The cases often described as a win for the dodges, but Hodak and some legal experts say that that's only half of the story. The court ordered Ford to pay a dividend to the dodge brothers and other shareholders in doing. So it rejected Ford's claim that he wanted to keep that money in order to reinvest it to bolster the company's production and boost workers wages. The decision is often cited for the legal theory of shareholders Premacy or that businesses. Maximize profits for the benefit of shareholders. Judge Russell Austin Dir wrote for the court a business corporation is organized and carried on primarily for the profit of the stockholders. The powers of the directors are to be employed for that end. But the court also acknowledged another important legal theory, commonly referred to as the business judgment rule that principle assumes the corporate directors generally act in the best interests of the company and have widely way to do. So as long as they're moves, a reasonable, the court cited this went up resolved. Another segment of the case it rejected the dodgers attempt to block Ford from expanding his factory. Australia wrote, the judges are not business experts is recognized the plans must often be made for a long future for expected competition for continuing as well as immediately profitable. Venture the experience of the Ford Motor Company is evidence of capable management of its affairs. Ford may have had that part of the decision in mind when he made his next move against the dodgers. After the court ruling Ford announced he was selling the company to his son. He also planted a rumor that he might start a new car business all of this drove down the value of the shares in Ford Motor Company that was enough to spook the dodgers and other investors who sold her shares back to the Ford family exactly what Ford had wanted in the first place. Today's episode was written by Chris offer and produced by Tyler claim brain stuff is a production of iheartradio's how stuff works for more in this. Lots of other topics involving the sick burns of history. Visit our home planet has works dot com and for more podcast. Iheartradio is I heart radio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Are you following your passion? I'm Carla Marie the host of side Hustler's, join me as we hear the story in hustle of people following their passion outside of their regular job side. Hustlers. Listen and subscribe on the iheartradio app at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Live from Roadkill Nights Powered by Dodge Event

CarCast

45:54 min | 1 year ago

Live from Roadkill Nights Powered by Dodge Event

"You're listening to castle car cast on podcast. One a ah here comes again lunch. Will it be the same old same old or are you ready to take a vacation from the ordinary very with new jamaican jerk turkey sub at firehouse subs freshly sliced smoked turkey breast crave ably sweet mustard sauce and a hint of caribbean seasoning just five fifty five for medium save time or the new jamaican jerk turkey sub on the firehouse subs app firehouse subs enjoy more subs save more lives participating meeting locations limited time only plus tax prices vary delivery get old baby right now. All jeans are on sale up to fifty percent off from fifteen bucks for adults. It's ten bucks for kids. Try on a pair in store and save even more with five bucks off your purchase of fifty dollars or more during old navy's great denham triathlon hurry in now now to find your perfect fit and save big with up to fifty percent off all jeans now at old navy validate twelve to eight twenty one excludes in store clearance gift cards register lane items jewelry jewelry five dollar discount valid with jeans purchase all right guys. Today's car cast is exciting because we're gonna be recording live from road. Kill hill nights in detroit. You're gonna hear all kinds of crazy drag racing and stuff in the background but but stick with us. It's going to be fantastic. We've got david fry burger and marc tro soul l. freiberga from road kill marcos from dodge. It's a great interview. You're gonna love these guys before we get started. Let me tell you about dodge. You can get dodge orange power dollars with any new car during dodge summer clearance event. The math is simple for every horse power of your new car. You'll get ten dollars off if you wanna appeal out in the dodge s._r. Hell cat red eye. You've just got seven thousand nine hundred seventy dollars off the price. Seven hundred ninety seven horsepower gets you seven thousand nine hundred seventy dollars off. I also want to tell you guys about continental. If you think of all the weird things that you find in cars not just french fries and melted crayons. Just things like live snakes bizarre trinkets stuff that makes you wonder about folks while another thing that'll make you wonder but in a good way or continental belts. I bet you didn't know they're only a millions of chrysler dodge ford b._m._w. V._w. and g._m. Vehicles and continental has launched their aftermarket multi v belt with with this. Oh e pedigree. It's their e technology series of belts their fanatically engineered for perfect fit form and function for ninety eight percent of the vehicles vehicles on the road in the u._s. and canada continentals o. e. technology series multi v belt. It's the belt with the e pedigree to to get the full story. Go to oh e technology series dot com r. i. Chris let's get started here comes again lunch lippi the same old same old or are you ready to take a vacation from the ordinary with the new jamaican jerk turkey sub at firehouse subs freshly sliced smoked turkey breast credibly sweet sweet mustard sauce and a hint of caribbean seasoning just five fifty five remedium save time order the new jamaican jerky sub on the firehouse subs app firehouse subs cbs enjoy more subs save more lives participating locations limited time only plus tax prices may vary for delivery get old baby right now. All jeans are on on sale up to fifty percent off from this fifteen bucks for adults ten bucks for kids trianon pair in store and save even more with five bucks off your purchase of fifty dollars or more during during old navy's great denham trayvon hurry in now to find your perfect fit and save big with up to fifty percent off all jeans now at old navy validate twelve day twenty one on excludes in store clearance gift cards register lane items jewelry five dollar discount valid with jeans purchase <music> car cast mad to motivator deandra here with over over in person. You know unbelievable. We're live. We made it on time to roadkill nights and detroit. My pilot showed up unlike last year a and <hes> so it's going to get loud here right next to the drag strip so we're gonna try a. That's the allure of doing podcasts. We're going to do our best to try to get chris. Christa edit out so hopefully what you guys here is going to be a little more tolerable but just hang with a tiny story. The fact that i am here live i had my food delivered delivered the hotel <hes> n._c._i._s. last week guy delivered the room. I opened up the door. He has the food and he goes. Does this mean you're gonna be in town for podcast. Ask them right my heart right there you go. It's i'm glad to be here. I'm glad you're here as well. You're able to make it soon as we wrap this up. We're gonna do some drag racing and then you're gonna hop on a plane and go ed russell sometime. Toronto and then back hit a red eye and hit set seven a._m. Monday morning and n._c._i._s. when you started arena you have to say it's a flight because we're dodge van. No one knows what this you won't be driving back but it would never get me there by you. Never know it probably probably gonna be there all right well. Let's head welcome our gas. We have david freiberg her wide oli still here still sitting there. We hear cars all say it's it's been years for some reason that you've been on car cast and we've even attempted to do this view times. I don't know it just like things didn't work out one point. We were like hey we're doing this big drive thing and we want to end at car. Cows right. Let's do that that was going to be an episode of roadkill. Yeah yeah i forgot about that. We wanted to pick up some obscure dotson or something and bring it over and give it to corolla yeah yeah fantastic plans change because it's roadkill and <hes> involves vehicles yeah okay so fiber you've been around forever with hot rod and peterson before motor trend and i wanna. Let's say ninety one or so. It's good dude. I started at hot rod in december nineteen ninety one when when you google david freiberg driver there must be another one because it says you're seventy two years old yes. I've seen that people ask me that all the time. I'm actually fifty two years old. I just feel seventy. Two gotta cry and yeah i was like. I don't know what he's taken it. He's like a great thanks. It's probably the lack of shoes. It's the clean living yeah okay so you started got it off with <hes> with petersen publishing just as as a feature editor is a writer. It was just <hes> what they call a staff editor on hot rod magazine which was a a crate entry point to get into publishing at the time. I've been doing some freelancing but to get your first job. Hot rod was huge. I interviewed with jeff smith and packing all on the same day and so i was has offered jobs at rodney customer dot ride takao rod yeah and ultimately then became the editor of four wheel and off road than car craft and rod and custom and then i was the editor of hot rod for twelve years before we started doing the guilt thing obviously made the wrong decision because you haven't advanced at all your career precisely it just keeps slipping my credibility erodes by the minute they just raised drag race the fiat five hundred l camino behind us that will be the quietest race of of the entire of ed all right right. So what are they letting tesla's here. I don't know that's questions though tesla's here. I don't know it is voters. That is an electric motor yeah right right. So what is your official title now. Oh my title is ridiculous s. v._p. Executive producer uh of aftermarket content creation but ultimately i'm just the host of roadkill roadkill garage and engine masters yeah okay so let's talk about the <hes> of course roadkill hit show kind of what started all of this is. Everything's going online and all the books are basically becoming online all that the content get squirrelly here on woodward avenue drag racing on the street as we do this mustang for right. Ah yes that might have been a capri. The andre gosh story building. I knew you were going to see that. I saw what it breeds yeah. We won't mention that but you see what went before that iraq pac man this. This is going to get so distracting so you you start. You basically start video content with road. Cal your idea you put together. You and i actually did it before that i quit hot rod magazine thirty one year and i did a thing called car junkie tv in two thousand and eight and it was just way too soon. It was way too soon to be doing you in video content online and the economy crumbled in my investor lost everything and moved in with his mom and i was out of a job but fortunately hired me back at hot ride and we started making the videos i was just for hot rod dot com for the website and then you came in and wanted to pay our company to make original shows just for the motrin youtube channel and that's how roadkill ended up coming and to be and then it's amazing. I mean you guys did such a great job at the shell but then i don't know who's spearheading this you or spearheading this and it just grows into the the biggest brand of their like hot rod brand was like everything's gonna be hot rod like this is the brand we have eventually the hot rod power tour and it's still doing those things us zip tie tracks and all that stuff but then roadkill becomes. I don't know this equal or maybe bigger brands. It was like a super brand that was adjacent to all of that stuff because we had all this stuff with real credibility like motor trend hot rod and then on the side roadkill with being mike finnigan just hacking on cars and i think it was because it was a younger different audience since then we were reaching with the magazines and that's what that's what youtube was doing really hold. Normal content never knew what to expect her. You never know what what to expect watching any of your video. I think our other it is pretty awesome. We just watched it altered wheelbase car drive by woodward. It's great. I think the other thing that made us different at the time is that we were reality t._v. That was scripted in no way whatsoever. We don't don't fake anything and we failed a lot and that's a formula that they just can't deal with and they don't understand in the mainstream and they don't understand and auditory sorry for real real right all reality t._v. Sort of scripted way anyway scripted in the sense that they get forty hours of footage they cut it down to thirty minutes or for seven minutes and they edit it to make whatever story there's so much value to to to live reality so why not shoot it for real shoot it in order edited in the camera basically and you know now that to actually bring the story to a close now that our company has joint venture going on with discovery and i'm seeing what happened been sort of how the sausage is made with actual television. I will say that the the t._v. Shows they do are not as scripted as i would have accused them of before i worked worked there you know i think it's a little bit more organic but it is more planned than anything we do. We just by the seat of our pants and you get a little bit more. I think editing liberty you know because you can like because that's that's how you make it dramatic appealing and and that's the value of your show. That's why i love it. Thanks thanks. Can we talk about engine masters as well because i'm a data nerd attack nerd. I love that. I love engine master watching love engine massar. I love it too. The only only thing i have left. It gives me any credibility because it's actual science. I mean we go on t._v. Show nobody would ever green light because nothing moves chiefs with an engine on the dino and just test parts test theories and working if you guys are not if you are not watching engine masters yet. You need to be watching it right because it's exactly what you're saying. It's it's you and a couple of guys in the dining room going going morgan up we're going to we're going to take this engine and we're gonna throw three blowers on it till title explodes or we're gonna test intake manifold again the what works. Maybe it's been done before. Maybe some variation that you think has been done before. We're just gonna to keep doing it and one gets a lot of stuff that i did as a magazine editor so i kind of know the answer but then we also test some things where i have no idea idea what's going to happen. We have some interesting stuff coming up. We're doing iron. Versus aluminum cylinder heads the exact same cylinder head cast from two different pieces of metal yeah. What's that's the effect on performance. There's a lot of theories about what people say that's going to do but what's the reality i love. Myth busting. There is a theory there is a theory that cast had a little more heat in the combustion children iron head hold or he really automotive this bus right. I kind of like that so i i kind of want to know the difference in in in heat. It's it's gonna be very interesting. We can't run it on the dino the way you would in a car <hes> to the point of detonation. We don't want to destroy anything but if an iron head really retains chains more heat we're going to be able to see that in either power or g._t.'s or ignition timing your thing to destroy anything we have themselves in in contrast to you know what's really made you offline. What's going on often. We blow stuff. We've made fifteen hundred sixty horsepower with a junkyard. Ls engine in with a turbo on that that in itself is tasked to why you have to watch this yeah. If you wanna watch it it is on the motor trend friend out. That's where you go to see okay so we were talking about that a little bit off air. We need to give some clarity as to all the content where you can get it now. So philosophy channel that you guys have been watching on t._v. Is now motor trend correct. Motor trend at work and at one point there was a motor trend on demand network. It's still exists but it's just basically called motor trend app. It's just motor trend or the motor trade mode of the website you go to the mobile app. You could go to the app on your smart tv. It's all that correct for ninety nine a month content and for that for ninety nine you get all of our shows that were born on youtube lake road kill dirt everyday head to head all of that stuff plus everything that that was on velocity now motor trend plus. Most of the car shows that are on discovery okay so it's actually a really good value. Damn good value. You only watch car shows. There's no reason good for you to have the whole cable baggage. You buy today listen. There's guys i walk around in the airports all the time just watching swimming events on their phone. Why not watch freiburg or blow up vengeance on the dino not blow up engines on the dino often off the dider. Okay so four ninety nine a month for that. You get all access but you guys are also producing shows exclusively for rotor transport strip shane as a matter of fact overhaul and is now back. Yes and it's been back like twice. How many times is that show gone away and come back and like me and my wrestling too ladies like overhauling alan matches. There's a little bit overhauling going on on the body and it's back with chip fouss with jacobs with a._j. Jay they're on tasks and it's only going to be on the motor trend app now. The other thing that's happening though is that our shows like roadkill that used to just be on youtube. They're putting old episodes up on the cable channel. Which is it's really awesome because our ratings are pretty good it. It was kind of natural to get that in there as well like like you're saying roadkill. Is the one brand you you guys. Were able to that extent out to events like this. I don't know how many this is the fifth year over all right so we're sitting roadkill nights which is at m. one concourse which is like country club road race course here in pontiac michigan and we've we did this the first year remember what the race against gas monkey garage yeah we did at the silverdome parking lot lot four years here racing on woodward avenue so roquetas is expanded into events like this. I mean the and this year is the first year you two days friday a._m. Saturday yeah we expanded it and it was worthwhile. I just got the count. They said we had four thousand people here last night pretty good. We're going to have about forty thousand here today and dodgers out there. You're on the on the on the road race course doing some ride alongs and giving people the right of their life. Dodge cannot be given enough credit for making this happen. Actually i mean as the roadkill name on it it but dodge makes this happen with local influence heard about an awesome thrill ride yesterday or last night yeah they did last year. They gave sixty five hundred thrill rides. They're estimating estimating. They might touch ten thousand this year weekend. Housing that's a lot for the people who are listening what the thrill right is they put people in the passenger seat in the back seat of hell cat and red eye chargers and challengers and they take them out on the drift bad or on the road course and the drivers they leave nothing on the table to say <hes> you know let's not go there. Said read is the chargers to statements challengers collusion's to future yeah that cardinal bites doing yeah. They do have a wide body charger here but it is not erade. I y body will be yeah. <hes> not as far as you know yes. We got running next. We got a mustang versus the camaro ninety five style mustang and camaro later so y'all understand the drag stupid hearing in the background. Here is the street it's crowned. It's full of patches. It's a narrow it sketchy yeah and it's a lot of work and put them together. Eh we appreciate runoff. We appreciate you invited us out to this event. We were here last year and got the credit. Credit is due last year's winner sitting right here right big champion goldberg about we're the only three that no one because rawlins's rawlins road all the way up and down the wall in that <hes> a hell cat that was the big media incident last year for sure yeah yeah awesome batman we're honor and privilege to be appreciated and each year it it gets bigger and better and what a testament to where the car car culture is right now. Oh yeah people ask all the time about you know cultures going away as it is now totally totally not oughta chance if anything this is the one last gasp that everybody thinks is going to happen but it's funny how long that one lasts gas has been taken and look what dodge dodge keeps doing like you. Were just alluding to more power all the time. The other voice you hear in the background is actually they're playing some big screen green video of christie lee. Oh yeah that's christie lee in the background. I interviewed people. Tell you what we're gonna. We're gonna let you go. You got another interview to go two yup. We're going to bring rigging mark trauma from dodge and we're gonna take a quick break but before we do one more plows. Where do we find you on social media. You could find me personally. My account cowden handle is david freiberg or what you'll be able to spell but you'll find it and of course you can also find us on motor trend t._v. or on roadkill show. What's your address number. Exactly exactly we're gonna have to have you come back down. Come into the studio with us. Sit down because we didn't touch on nearly enough stop. We got to get into the clark election. We need outdated date on at fall. We got so much more all that stuff. I love to all right. Thanks for having me see you guys later. They save a the quick break to tell you about gyco. Everybody's got a to do list. Drop off your dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Now you can add save hundreds dollars on car insurance to that list and you don't have to drop off or pick up anything just go to geico dot com and in fifteen minutes you could be saving. Fifteen percent or more on car are insurance so if you want some extra money in your pocket. This is the most rewarding to do you can do today. Check out geico dot com guys. I also want to tell you a little bit about vowed brembos sixty two zero. That's the stat you should be looking at. 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Dot com use code car cast ten to get ten percent off all right guys. We want to welcome bar coastal back to car casca to see you again. Good to see you guys. I'm excited about being here talking with you guys again. At this event of of course give us your give us your official title. We know you're the boss. You're the head of design <hes> simple one. We'll just say ahead of dodge esotique design. Okay there. You go most important question question how many cars you got a little garage over yeah. It's funny every time i come over here. I'm like trying to tell my wife. We need to get one of these garages. We i know you've got a couple of cars over there. I know someone. These crashes are like the guy who owns the boat. It's good to know people that owned on the boats skin wants the plane and the restaurant like all those ah nobody's more of a master than that than bruce meyer. Oh i could see that i could see that requires ars about that and we all should learn from him. Yeah oh yeah okay so we've got a bunch of cool things going on. Obviously since last time we spoke we saw spring spring fast. You guys teased the challenger wide-body while you were there and now we have a challenge or wide-body charger charger sorry charge challenge and i write the prior to that. Let's talk about the thirteen twenty yeah yeah. We drag racing at spring. Fest had some fun. I i'd been in the vehicle first time you had been first time. I guess the public scene yeah yeah so how's it. How's it done how how what's the reaction from the people i mean it was a wonderful car to drive down the drag. It is and you know we kind of set the benchmark with the demon right that set the bar limited production numbers but with a thirteen twenty and for those that don't know thirteen twenty cents for the amount of heat in the quarter mile kind of a neat little play on nat car has a cool badge with it but it has a lot of the same attributes that demon has obviously minus the the engine but it's really aspirated four eight hundred eighty five horsepower but comes with street legal drag drag radio on it as well. You'll lying lock all the things that the demon helps make a drag cargo. Oh at a really good price and the following behind it has been absolutely phenomenal and for those that don't know on dodge garage. You can actually go there and our customers go there post their are times and there's a whole leaderboard and it's a really cool community and culture that's growing out and speaking of times people posting these times and i'm not just talking about the thirteen twenty but how amazed her you at how fast guys are getting these fricken. Hell cats how hard carlisle and all the guys oh mindless. I just got unbelievable unbelievable. I love it. I love it and i love that. People are really embracing those cars for that's what we want them to do and i. I love that and i and i like all just like in years of old. I like all the ways that people are trying to search for that or spout because it's a modern day muscle car and it's real time not not back in the day like cars going down. Woodward avenue was the idea between for the thirteen twenty to do. It's just a more affordable version of the demon or was it to have another racing class like there's gotta run the naturally aspirated cars you can run the supercharged cars and just sort of different type of it was really interesting body a little bit of all of that because we the one thing i will say about you know pike company it is that we really do listen to our customers and and obviously the demon was pretty exclusive. The price point was up there. Even the hell cat you know <hes> price point is up there but we wanted to give some you know. Give a canvas to somebody. That is a really good price to start with interior point about the guys wanna wanna tune the car say want how to build them. The thirteen twenty s perfect place to start with some luli because they got a lot of meat left on it in their pocket and they do their own own rendition exactly exactly exactly <hes> in this this is a little bit on on the mo par side of things but <hes> we we saw the vehicles you built with the help an engineer at spring fast and and then they seem on it you know by time that engine came out. It sold immediately like i think the first batch is like one hundred eight hundred of them played. I couldn't even get one. I stumbled on. It's it's it's it's. It's an expensive engine. It's a lot of horsepower can only go in a certain amount of things. Were you guys. I surprise how quickly sold or let's do one hundred. We're really surprised it's a good feeling because it validates that there's still a lot of people <music> out there that are like us that they want them. I was horsepower right. I gotta have it. You know it validated that and you know what it proved to you that that number went beyond one hundred exponentially because you probably could have sold five hundred a month puppy within twenty and that was that was a feat that was attained within twenty four hours yeah yeah. Is there a cap on that. You were just gonna do the hundred or is it gonna be like another bachelor another bad don't have all the details but i think there's going to be more <hes> yeah. I do not help. Point of some of the cars is exclusivity but when you get into the crate engine world like that. I mean if there's enough guys i want them and there's here's the project doc version week when you can't see the with the mosaic jose i why over yeah. I know there's going to be more. There's going to be for sure. I like the idea idea. That is a game. I've been playing with this gentleman out here. First helmets next and i don't get the right answer. I'm coming back retirement half for my tomorrow night. If summer slam and you guys are both gonna take their era. We're gonna make the greatest youtube videos that up sack tosa yeah so with the help it engines what i like is is at least there's an it's. It's amazing to think there's there's already a hundred people out. There guys all shops going. We want this engine. We're probably going to do something come on the twenty see four hours just imagine if there was an unlimited supply. I mean if there were i guarantee you. If there were thousand of them they would have been gone within in two days and i now for one second that i question their ability to sell that because alone. I know fifteen guys that wanted to buy that motor and did buy that mode. You know fifteen guys but the seven you want. Don't don't count the same people in their all means more. Hey let's put it this. Let's put an elephant but here you know. I'm gonna get personal personal here. You've known me for a long time. Yeah okay and we've you've seen me in different facets of my career whether it'd be wrestling or television in order now dodge be perfectly honest and this is on a personal level. Have you ever ever i seen me smile as long for an extended period of time as you have seen me smile at road kill nights last year and this year. I've never ever been as happy because this is the coolest atmosphere that they provide for car guys like you and me yeah. It's i got a hell of a weekend okay but i don't care about any of it. Because this is the pinnacle you're right. This is so cool and when describing the hairs on my arm i gotta to it's the guys have evoked and other manufacturers over the past couple of years. Thank god by this hot horsepower coming back and that's an interesting vaguer whatever that is but soundly selling liberals look at his arm out their window and a coffee but i just want to say it's this is what it's all about eight. It's it's so true. Story is is we're. We're very happy to have we launched car cast bill and i launched a little over a year ago about a year and a half ago we got involved from day one <hes> at which was great burnouts going on man and <hes> when when it came time to sit down and look at the contract for year two. I said hey let's go to dodge. I wanna do a year or two. I think they've been happy with overdoing and he said as long as roadkill nights is in that contract and we're doing and so we wanted to come out here and do it. This is going to be a big drag race going on. This is going to be a little long island from our voices but a lot of horsepower. You're going to hear it in a second so i guess let's let's. Let's all three put our mikes early. We're going to give you one of these. Loud runs out <music> oppressive man chris studio editing the show going nuts but his head the car show man. It's all about what made you guys decide to get involved with. Roadkill nights roadkill like we talked to david freiberg earlier. The show's been around for awhile. It really really kinda grill. There must have been something that caught your eye to say. Hey dodge needs to be a part of this because of that. Yeah i mean it's it's last year we had over forty. Four thousand people attend this savannah and one day event. We'd better day and a half this year. We'll have an i have a feeling. We're going to far exceed that number but you know you. You touched on bill. You know the the connection that allow it allows the us manufacturer to get with our customers in in even people that mark our customers but that connection i think is what makes it special. It is absolutely that in our our brand i mean that is us right. That is us. We make noise we. We don't follow the rules. We do things a little different. It's it's quite obvious because back in the day that's why i got involved with moe par 'cause you guys always did something different. You didn't really care about about what the leader or what this guy. That competitor was doing. You wanted wanted to do your own thing whether it be the displacement or whether it be the body styles whether it be the outlandish colors yes you've always been different and i like to liken liken myself to that and that's why i got into mo- pars and you guys still wouldn't i'm telling at fifty two years old and i guys done a lotta different things this simplistically the coolest thing i could ever be doing right yeah and to be santa claus and the mayor muscle ville you know while is all bits it all fits absolutely it's hard to put into words and describe to somebody this event without really experiencing you say that street racing illegal street racing until you see it and you see how narrow though in your last year the thrill aero it is professor of feeling you just being here yeah yeah. There's an anything any one of your products and so let's go to the to the chargers these guys right after guys burn it up. What are we going but a nova over there. We've got an early elite gen camaro. They're getting their manson. They always say that out of a tank slapper. They're watching the left lang dominating no question yeah that far latest all day today would be on votes for layers. A little note for later to demons are lining up to. I just noticed that here. We go okay so now that we have you here. We have a microphone in front of you and you have no place to go. Can we talk about a charger wide-body read. I yeah i just wanna talk about the car. We just show funny funny how that question my mouth but my my hand hand is behind matt and i'm using him as a man jeff john. Let's let's torture them even more. Let's let these demons go. Go by about thirty seconds to think of what you're gonna say this on charlie's. Her wide-body looks fantastic. Listen to that super toto awesome. It's awesome. They run two of them like super charger wind fantino that never gets old uncover gets all my neighbors. Don't like it too much but i really don't care. That's not why i don't buy my cars for my neighbor so we saw in and build your commercial. The mayor must've commercial. We saw the the full view wide-body charger out now torino's transplant yeah. That's how it happens to be the overwhelm overwhelming. Absolutely it was one of those things that we you know that that the challenger wide-body is just been off the chart successful for us. If it really just simple they tell you what the whole way down. They gotta be last year now. That makes me nervous because his retired hours left lineage wise but the challenger you know it was really successful for us and it really visually changed the look of the car with the with the charger that we've just introduced we went a little bit further did new front facial this show new rear facial on it so we really created change. The look even more on the news side sill on it. The wheels are new for it. Some awesome full carbon fiber accents on the inside of it as well <hes> awesome colors as you mentioned <hes> a wide body work is more integrate yeah. We're on the challenger. The the flares were actually applied into the facial area where here we've integrated them into the new shows well so little more seem to get a little more creative with the side barkers exactly had more fun with the shape still spend a lot of time in the wind tunnel. The car still has one hundred ninety six mile an hour top speed and some of it's just you know when you go wider. You're you're creating more drag on the car because some of those pieces hanging off of it but still pretty fast car runs a quarter ten point nine six seconds so hey we we all know i've had both of them for a while and you've had received many phone calls for me about you know the wide-body charger and my desire to see one <hes> performance take a little break. I gotta tell you they just ran a g._t._r._i. Thanks man click all wheel drive. The two cars are completely different. Yes i love the tightness of the charger. It's it's like you're wearing it. You're sitting in the challenger. It's a little bit bigger. Our morning looks juries. Feel for those people yup data mainly but what you're doing and what you've done would that charge her is like a dream. Come true. I cannot wait. We saw the you know on the santa. Claus vaas commercials coming out in november a little spice shot that was taking l._x. Fast the first rendition when it was in its cammo but i mean hats off. Thanks thanks. It's a beautiful car. I've heard nothing but wonderful things about it and i'll be expecting mindset. It's it's in it. It's one of those things. I appreciate that because it's one of those things that you know people always ask us. Why don't you change this do this and do that. That's a little different sow. It's nikki nine sixty nine camaro running a turbo crazy but you know you look i look at our cars as as good soup right now and these cars we continue to refine them versus trying to do massive the changes to them. But why would you write be counterproductive because all the engine counterproductive goldberg turning his demon into a red eye making it. Try to turn yeah yeah. You know the technology that you've reached just expand upon don't don't throw it to the side. The full sized car segment right. Now is on this incredible decline. The charger is going the other late challenger same thing i mean we've outsold and i don't mean this disrespectfully camaro outsold camaro for two years now with with the challenger so to me instead refinement that we're putting into the cars versus. Let's try new soup. Let's a new recipe disappear and it's the validation from the public example. Now you and your team still have to think several years ahead. We look you guys wishlist lake. Take me whether it's happening now. You have some ideas of where you wanna see. I think the biggest thing for me. Is you know obviously there are there are federal regulations regulations that continuously affect you know yeah internal combustion engine and all the way cargoes together and what a car needs to do that the the biggest thing for me that i think about all the time in the rest of the team is how do we keep the soul of the car that we have today in the next generation of car for for guys like us that want the people that are here. How do you keep that in the next generation of cars and now it's not easy. It's not easy yeah well next. Step yeah yeah when you guys are known for sound. We talk about that right. I always joke about or we're going to put up. Baseball cardinal spoke to me it but maybe there are things that <hes> back on that is. That's what it's all about there. Now is a jeep grand cherokee s r._t._a. Up against like a full all pro honors in the replay sick sick. He was out in front of the beginning all right guys. We're going to wrap things album. I'll have marco to the next thing mark. Thank you so much of course go to dodge garage dot com. You can find all kinds of good stuff there. We find you on on instagram europe trussell atro- mark t. r. o. s. t. l. e. I mean mark bill says go out and buy a dodge around a wrap things up but thank you so much for tuning turning into our roadkill nights car cast episode until next time. Keep the air in the spare in the bag in the wheel and we will say goodbye as we watch a flat black demon go and down woodward here this <hes> man lining up against <hes> camaro eighty eighty six nick six. He let off because he was in his lane. He was headed towards lane safety. I all right got. It just one more reminder about dodge this deal. You guys don't wanna miss. Summertime is the best time to join the brotherhood of muscle because dodge dodge power dollars means. You get guaranteed discount. The math is simple. 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Drag Racing and More

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Drag Racing and More

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Horsepower fuel economy and lower under hood temperatures Zaib ours than ultra thin high temperature coating that reduces radiant heat by ninety percent put Zaib are on take heat off, you can learn more at Zych coat dot com. Right. So we had it's kinda scheduled for for our friendlier Pritchett drag racer. To come into the studio today, and as we're recording this it's a Monday and the races out Pomona are going on winter nationals kicking off the new season and they got rained out yesterday. So it's delayed. So the race. I'm I'm very disappointed at her. But I thought she would have put her foot down told them just to go to hell and wait until she gets done with car cast. That's what I that's what I thought I got a text to the late last night. Hey, sorry. Can't come in. We've got a race tomorrow. Like, you could swing it. Just some race. You know, three fifty three thirty something at least. So hopefully, they're all having fun out there. I just got. I just got a message from buddy Jag. Jed got knocked out this morning and his round by his teammate. So little bitter. Sweet. I guess I always likes to win these good guy like the guys at Jags. So hopefully, everybody's out there haven't fun being safe, and hopefully it's dry enough to to to run, I guess they drag that thing like the big hairdryer. That they kind of dry the track out a little bit. But I don't know much about hair products over hairdryer. That's right out of a loop for the hairdryer on. He's been on the loop on that for a while. Tell us you went out to you went onto the racist this week and you went on Saturday. It wasn't really raining. Right. Well, it was raining on the way up, and it was raining as we left, but you know, these wonderful periodic thunderstorms or downpours. The we have here in California are wonderful for the the grounds and the grass but not for driving and certainly not for NHRA events. But we were lucky, man. We were we got up there around, you know, ten o'clock in the born in a couple of hours. There got in the car about fifteen minutes after we headed south it started raining again. So I can only imagine what they're dealing with. Yeah. Tell us how to go. What was the day? Like Where'd you guys start off? I'm sure you went and saw a couple of friends of ours. And. Watch some rain. I saw all the usual suspects. Fortunately, the Mr. predom- was one of the first guys I saw there mister force. And then, you know, stop them to Mr. Ron caps, and then crews Pentagon and the Lia Matt, and, you know, all the Dodds boys and girls, and you know, I just I had to had to go down a little little bit of fun took G man down and tried to blow his ear drums out. And. Yeah. And you know, he it's cool because these kids get a little older, and you see them mold as little humans, and he's really taking the liking to it much more. So than I thought so as a father, I'm greatly appreciative can pass it down to my son. But he he had absolute blast. It's something having a conversation the other day with somebody with somebody who's like, they're like do you like basketball and not really like, oh, so you'd never. Go basketball game. I said well sure, I would because going to live events is different than just like watching it on TV or or being a fan of something. It's just like, you know, going to a live event could be fun. Even if you're not like super into that thing that you're watching like, you know, I'm not a huge basketball fan. I've watched some I played some back in the day pack when height wasn't an issue. And and go into an event is is fun to do. And I would say NHRA drag racing is definitely one of those car avent's. You have to put on your schedule. You have to go to one of these events. At least see it once it is so intense like you think as loud, you have no idea you've the sound pressure. If you're sitting in the grandstands near the starting line. This sound pressure pushes all over your body. Your is your face your chest. Like, it's it. It's such a visual this real experience that you really have to check it out. Like, you go there with earplugs. And when those cars. Is run. You're you're covering your ears in jamming the ear plugs in your ear holes because it is so intense. Right it it's definitely has you have to see it live. It's it's a great explanation. But and I at the end of the day. Here we go number one. There are a lot of people who wake up in the morning and go to sleep at night carrying about how many hours they have. I'm not saying this because I want more followers. Look at the last post that I did on my on my personal account. And when you see the camera. Shaking when that when those two cars take off that is the feeling that you can try to eloquent to people, but you can never do Justice. You have to be there in person to feel that it is. And you don't have to be as close as I was starting by any means, but to see and or most importantly feel what these cars are like you have got to go to NHRA. I've it and age are a vent. It is a must you do. I I've been down there as well. I've been down to the starting line. I think it was a jet Kaufman junior. He and his team invited me down. And it's intense. It's it's insane. I mean, you're right. You don't need a stand on the starting line. You can stand half track and still feel it because those cars are full throttle when they're when and you can feel it off the sides of the track just saying the grandstands like it's it's pretty intense. And it's also what what makes it a great event is. Is all the teams they pit just in like the vendor booth area fuel like all the car all the teams are sort of lined up, and you can walk up on them. There's a little bit of of a of a rope basically hanging there, and you can see them thrash on their car limited time that they have in between sessions, and you kinda have together way when they're when they're bringing those things into the pets either pushing number dragging them like what the TV or whatever the guy going on. And and you know, if you're a fan of the racing, you're you're gonna see the drivers you're gonna wave to the drivers you're probably gonna shake a hand or two maybe get an autograph. They're they're very personable. And the way it set up. You're you're very much allowed to sort of like get up on the cars and check out the pits. It is very fan friendly like NASCAR. Getting the ability to go out to reach out, and literally touch your favorite driver is not, you know, a it will definitely happen one of those events. And it's it's it's one of the reasons why people love them so much is because it is you know, that personal. It's a lot of fun, man. But if you do not like loud noises, do not go to. Thank you. I gotta dumb a lot. You gotta get the little foam earplugs. And then the headphones, and then you gotta squish your hands on your ears. Not pretty much make it you'll hear it. It'll make it a little more tolerable as far as if you've got really said that if hearing. I don't know if you had a chance to chat with anybody over there about some of the changes going into this year, the the two big news fairly big news that I came across was one that Courtney force is is basically retiring. And Tony Schumacher after nineteen years with US army sponsorship. They did not renew their deal. And I don't think he raised at all. Because they were unable to get another sponsor. He was up in the in the in the sky box when we when gauge and I were up there. Yeah. Didn't look real happy. Now say the least now, you know, I really I can't comment. Anything more on that? But yeah, he was he was a civilian yet this weekend. Yeah. Wasn't sure if you guys had a chance to chat a little bit about or not. But I'm sure it's not something he really wanted to get into right now. But, but yeah, this is, you know, he's he's a multi time eight time champion, I'm gonna if I if I got that right? I don't have notes in front of me. I'm just kind of going off of off the fly is eight time champion is been with US army for nineteen years. It's kind of interesting to me like I get sponsorships deals are hard to come by. And especially in sport like this. Yeah. Chris saying eight time championship. Why wouldn't there be some other sponsor almost waiting in the wings to back? Somebody like him. This is not a startup team. This is a well-funded, you know, well history team that and a hell of a driver. So it seems like. If anybody's gonna put some money, and there's a guy you you, you know, you can put some money behind so. Has the start up? You can hang your hat on a proven guide to real. But but those questions or and or statements leave me to ask Chris question, and he can probably find it much quicker than myself. But you know, I I remember the days when I was told that one car NASCAR team was, you know, over twenty million bucks to run for the year. I'm curious to see what you know, what top fuel is. Funny car is you know for for one car for a year. Just really curious. Yes. So that compares. I do have a little bit insight on that. I I I. Used to I used to date. I used to take. I date Melanie trucks, all who's a fantastic woman such a sweetheart, and such a competitor. And she's raised, you know, everything out there. Pro stock top fuel funny car everything like that. And we had some conversations about racing and stuff like that. And even reviewed some sponsorship proposals, and and and stuff, but I want to say that, you know, not not a force team not Schumacher team. But but but good team with some money behind it. And and whatnot. I would say you're you're spending about two and a half million dollars to get a car out there for for one season. And that's if it doesn't break much that seems like a bargain to do that, she wouldn't have million bucks. And you're hang your hat on Schumacher's. And you know, put yourself put yourself out there front and center to me. That's. I don't have an extra two and a half mil just sitting here. Right. You know? And and if I had to guess if somebody was going to come into the Schumacher team and back, Tony and put something together. I mean, I'd I'd say it's probably about a four million dollar venture. I couldn't say for sure. But I just don't know that you can get out there for less than about two and a half million. You know, I if nothing happens your card, all and and and you're doing well, you know, it's it's maybe it's it's two million. But I mean, the fuel alone costs a lot of money. I mean, it's just it's a it's a it's a big deal to to go out there, and they're making they're they're they're doing steps to to try to make it more affordable. But. You know, we talked about in the past like I've had these conversations in the past some of the drivers like what happened to the days of the big smoky burnouts, and and the showmanship in shy town hustler and things like that. And the like we can't do it because it's too expensive. When you do the big smoky burnouts burn up the clutch, and we have to go through those clutches more just like more fuel and like just to make racing more forcible these days. They just can't put on the show from back in the day that back in the Don dome days that you were talking about. Well, that sucks. Yeah. I hear you get in your car. I am man. I'm multitasking here at auto armor down in San Diego. We got the expel guys, you know, nice enough to have me try out their product here. And I'll tell you what these this auto armor thing is really cool. It's like three different businesses under one roof. You know, how usually people will get a rap, and they'll go, you know, elsewhere for detailer, and they'll go elsewhere for, you know, maybe vinyl products. But these guys are all under one roof. It's pretty cool, man. It's a one stop shop. It's forty five minutes from the house. So I don't know how much I'll be here all the time. But as far as a car guy, he wants ceramic coating wants tent once a rap and then once Kerr seriously detail and seems like a pretty pretty perfect place to go. Yeah, we shall see. I will give you a lot of feedback. On this product. 'cause you know, I will beat it into the ground for good. Looking forward to it. I'm gonna tell you guys about about dyke. Kyko real quick. Everybody's got a to do list. You drop off dry cleaning pick-up, some milk. And now you can add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list. And you don't have to pick up or drop off anything if you just go to Geico dot com, you can be saving fifteen minutes or you could be saving fifteen minutes. He we saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. So if you want some extra money in your pocket, this is the most rewarding to do you can do today. Bill talk about beating up cars. We never really got a chance to get your final thoughts on the raptor that you were test driving. As the owner of under armor was showing me the product on his raptor. And you know, what we were talking about it. And he says that people love to come up to him every month or two and say, hey, what kind of new car you getting and for the first time. He's he's not changing the type of car is getting because he loves this raptor so much. And I I gotta tell you, man. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. Did you get that on your property a little bit or was hell? Yeah. Well known crash. You know, there's no doubt that I did that it's not every day that, you know, people can go in their backyard and kind of go Mudan. But yes, I did I didn't want to get the thing to thirty. But I didn't know exactly what they what paces they wanted me to put it through. But everything that I did with that truck. And it was just one more. Than they they've done a hell of a job with that vehicle. And then that space, you know, they've cornered the market. Yeah. They really have. It is. Like, I said, I drove it out here. And it is pretty it is fun. And it's it's one of the most it's one of the more, comfortable trucks. I think because of that suspension needs to absorb those that terrain that you were talking about and you should you should open that up to more comfortable, one of the most comfortable vehicles pants you. Yeah. Because that drives like a really just like unbelievably comfortable car. It's you know, what drives better than that. I mean, it it's the ride. Yeah. Get a race or something. Or, you know, big, Bentley whatever. But I mean that thing rides. It's like it's on a pillow. It's just awesome. I don't have. I really don't have anything bad to say about. Oh, that's a good question though. So the Range Rover you have or a raptor. Two completely different for two completely different things. You know, is it this this Range Rover? I love the Range Rover. It's my wife's vehicle I'm only in it right now because I had the drop the Red Eye off. But and we were talking last night after I drove this to go pick up dinner last night. I got back to the house. And I told my wife, I said there is absolutely no way. You miss your escalate because this this Range Rover is a hell of a ride. I mean, this this car is beautiful. It's wonderful. I I really love it. But it's something completely different than that Rafter. Although there are people people in LA, they use them for the same thing on the other hand is quite different story. Yeah. It is a different deal. It should be. I'm glad you like the Rafter. I thought I'm impressed with it. I wish I had like a use for it. Because I liked the idea of that truck so much, you know, if I had the space for it and the use for it. You know, it's still kind of one of those things like, you know, my my my mom, I brought my, you know, my parents are in Arizona go out there few times a year. Do the pair Jackson vents and all that stuff. And and it could be may she clean out mom's garage and stick went in there. It's a few times here. I'm waiting for dodge to do one. You know, I mean come on. We got we got to get a competitor in that space. Well, they're they're more than worthy. You know that have been rumbling. So we'll see. Yeah. You know, when we were talking with with with Alistair, and he was on his way to the Chicago auto show and the big three automakers are competing with their their super size trucks, right now, all the big the big trucks big diesel once that they have. And I think dodge came out with with with their latest ram and toast, thirty five thousand pounds. And then the next auto show was Ford. We're like, yeah. We do thirty five thousand five hundred pounds. And it's just like you wanna pull up battleship, right? Right. If you wanna toe this this studio this building were, and you you can do it. And it's amazing. How? They can get these trucks ready to go take them to an auto show debut. And whoever's I the next guy could be like, yeah, let's just recalibrate a little bit. Let's just say it's thirty five thousand five hundred like it just seems like. I'm not. I'm not sure that I I don't know. I don't I'm not the buyer for that truck. So I don't I don't know how much of a bragging, right? It is thirty five thousand thirty five thousand five hundred like. I guess it's it's a press release. At sounds good. But. Are you really buying it for that? Or or you really just going to go by the the nicer truck, or the brand you like or some of the features on the wacky tailgates that opened up. Where'd sideways have been? All this stuff. You know, they keep reinventing the tailgates, I guess. I don't know. I get guys like like Alastair get to go in and test. All those things kind of break it down for you and say, you know, what what they think are cool features. And what aren't but I don't know this we need to get Alastair on the horn. Because I just figured out the only thing I don't like about this Range Rover as you can't easily turn off the navigation because it's telling me how to get the my housing. Oh, that's interesting. There's probably I don't know. Yeah. I heard back there a random woman's voice throwing out directions. I, you know, I'm not trying to control it. Manso the the other thing I want to tell you guys about this has been a long time coming is a had the BMW the three in the shop. And. Getting the suspension work done on it. You know, it was taken off that that crappy old. Coil over suspension that was on it and guys from K W suspension hooked me up with some stuff. I was able to buy some stuff from them. Got a nice deal from them on it guys from Turner motorsport hooked me up with some stuff. And yet when through did all the things you're supposed to do on the forty six I believe we well, then on all those plates all the sub frame reinforcement plates and and all the mounting plates, and whatever for the suspension that's all done went through the through the control arms swapped them out for all the new bushings, the upgraded bushings urethane, and maybe it's del run. I think it's urethane. I'm not sure how it all broke down and went with K W throws down. Yeah. Like what I'm saying? I don't know how it breaks down between. I'm sorry. Yeah. You're right. You're right. Probably bad choice of words, but the difference between the different bushings. I don't know what which pieces had weights. So when we k- ws of very three the double adjustable and. They they seem great so far. I've I've over the weekend of put about one hundred miles on them. And they feel better. They definitely feel better. I'm gonna play around with the adjustments a little bit. And I wanna say the ride is is a smidge softer, but it's more pleasant significantly. And what I mean by that is that this spring rate and the coil overs and stuff it's like it's still has kind of very sporty ride like it did before. But the quality of the K W suspension is so much better. And it controls the car better it the bumps and stuff you hit don't feel like a harsh bang. No, it's it's a little bit smoother overall. So I'm gonna play around with the jesmyn on it. The one thing I'm trying to figure out is a had a shop, install it for me and setting the ride height and. A one side is about a quarter inch off on the other. So I went down there. And I started I grab the spanner ranch in sort of raising it, and it made a might a slight adjustment. But it took a lot of turns to get there. And now the amount of threads on the coil are not the same. Let's call it three inches of threads on the driver's side and three and a half almost four inches on the passenger side. So I'm starting to think maybe like one of the sides like that this spring isn't seeded correctly or something's going on fat. Yeah. What it is. But. It's funny because eight everybody said, hey, you should get the car maybe a line or set your coil overs with with a with a with a driver in the car. And you know, I don't why that much to begin with. I don't have to a lot of weight the driver's seat figure it out like, you know. It's not that much of a difference with me in the car, you know, with a couple people in the car. Sure. But so I got to figure that out. But anyway, so far happy with this suspension. But finally, the biggest difference was I swapped out the clutch. And when we took out this clutch when the when the car was built fifteen sixteen seventeen years ago. It's a two thousand one when I say built I mean when the engine was built in the supercharge on the coil overs were done. The only clutch available was like a sax racing clutch. And that thing is just harsh back. Then it was just heart such a heavy pedal. Feel it gripped. Well, but it was uncomfortable to drive because of how much effort the pedal was and then it was uncomfortable because it would bite so hard. It was just like I remember driving with a friend of mine, and she was like what what's what's going on with your car? Just like this thing is kind of all over the place. So we I called up the buddies over at advance clutch technologies out here in Lancaster, I believe. And I said. Where are we now with clutch technology, you know, eighteen years after almost eighteen years after this car came out? And you know, they they asked me about you questions we ran through some of the options, and they came up with a with a clutch kit flywheel, really, really nice stuff. And I said is gonna hold and they said, yeah, this thing is forty fifty percent more clamping force than stock. It's definitely going to handle the super charger, and I said what it's going to feel like and they said about ten percent more pedal effort than the stock. M three. And I said, well, I have no idea what the stock feel like I've a drive this thing for for a year and. I got it all in there and been breaking it in a little bit. Like, I said about one hundred miles on it. And man what a night and day difference. It's so easy. How easy depression the pedal effort now is so much better. It's it's amazing that. We can make clutches with this type of technology now, and there's not a whole lot of innovation. That's gone over the years. Just what they've done to just improve pedal feel clamping force and doing dual disk and things like that that we're seeing some of these cars is is is impressive. And I drove it here sitting in traffic this morning and. I didn't even think about it for just making phone calls and listen to music and didn't even think about the pedal on this thing other than just being oppressed. So I'm so glad that's done. Whoever's going to be the next owner of this car one day is going to be so happy that has done. It's such a huge difference. While I was in there. You know, we change out the Shifter and put a new Shifter and knob on it's all the the stuff lighted shift knob and the. I think the I think the Shifter I think the shift knob and the boot or like one piece leather and might be out of the newer m fives. I couldn't say for sure. I say I say newer. But I mean, whatever the last manual transmission version was six P transmission version was so I'll tell you. It was such a huge difference. I couldn't be happy with it. Now, I tell you. If you want to keep the miles a low on your car, put a terrible heavy racing clutch in there because this car like it says two thousand one it has twenty four thousand miles on it because nobody wants one thing either that just put drag radio's on. Wait for rain. Yeah. But dragged on their rainy season and see what happens. You'll graduate one. Yeah. So you've got some more stuff coming up. We're going to get into that as well. I I'm gonna tell you guys a little bit about about psycho. The guys at zygote, they make sidebar that we've been telling you about, you know, there's many engines they place. Hot components like exhaust manifold, close the air intakes to plug wires, car, raiders, break and power steering lines. And heat is the enemy of speed. We all know that robs power. Rob your speed before the only options were wraps tapes or ceramics. And now there's Zaib are. 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So you were hustling back and forth all last week doing NCIS again, follow follow Goldberg on social media. You guys know where he is. Lots of good Instagram stuff, so checkout Goldberg nine five and Goldberg's garage. You can see NHRA videos, you can see Goldberg and G man at at the races. And you can see you guys taking some little BTS's some behind the behind the scenes shots of NCIS, Los Angeles. Plus, yeah, man, they gonna help out there. My second my second appearance there and day by day, my relationship with dodge get stronger and stronger, and yes now Sam ala L L is driving a hell cat challenger on the show. Nice. And I was surprised. It wasn't a wide body. We'll see we can do about that. But yeah, it was pretty bitch in the show up. And have that thing out there drive. You know, the Red Eye up there one day, and yeah, it's all good, man. I'm always greatly appreciative to be on these shows. But the guys and girls that NCIS in front and behind the camera. They're just absolutely awesome. There. I mean, let's be honest. I'm not thespian by any stretch magic nation, but they make you feel comfortable. And and and like, no. So it reduces the stress level, and you can go out and get the best performance. And I only got to kill a couple of guys on this little pissed off. But you know, at least they got me doing something physical now and department of Justice investigator land hamels has made his second appearance on the show. And hopefully, they'll be more to it seems like a fun thing to do the last site. You did was was was fun. It was great to see you on there. I'm curious of of of the cast. That's on that show. They've been doing that for a while. Who's the car guy? Is there a car guy or girl out of that group? Yeah. I mean Elle's car guy, you know, for sure most of the, you know, the writers are car guys for sure everybody, there's a car guy in car girl. It's just to the extent. I I'd say L L is the biggest one of the writers is definitely a car guy. I are going back and forth about his G wagon. Thank god. I didn't have to buy Wanda won. But yeah. For the most part, they're all they're all in thrall with the vehicles and asked me to bring different dodge up every day, which. That's that's not hard to do it. All. Well, what do we know how long it takes from filming before those episodes air? Do we have some idea? No, it's the goldbergs. And I've done three two of those episodes since I've we've spoken last. That's a quick turn around the NCIS thing. I think it's two months, but it's something that, you know, people will if they follow me on social media. I'll be able to get a heads up throw some out there. There's they've got me some nice video behind the scenes packaging together. So I can put him out there soon. Just keep keep keep abreast because we got lots of cool news on the forefront. Yeah. And can you tell us a little bit about what you're doing this weekend? Can you tease? Well, my I'm increasing my resume of characters that I've played throughout the years. Whether it be a professional football player or a convict or professional wrestler or. Unicycle or whatever it may be or coach. Now, I get the B mayor. So that's kinda all I can say about that one. But it is a dodge I've signed onto diesel more with Dodds, and I'm greatly appreciative of that opportunity. And I do believe that they couldn't have found. A better bald guy. To represent their product than me. And actually, I I'm sorry to rag on your inability to be above six feet. But you know, when you got somebody that's wrapping your product. That's a little tiny short guy that has to stand on an apple box on movies that looked like he's big not the right? Yeah. That's right guy. Like, I I do believe they have found the guy to properly represent their product. And so hopefully, we got some really bad ass stuff on horizon. I know they do hopefully they'll involve me with it. But you know, it just gets me closer and closer to that dream car, the widebody jars man, that's all the only reason why do this stuff. You know? It's it's you know, we, obviously we love dodge. They support the show we they they buy Sabbah's and stuff on the show. But to give you guys some inside of like how this came to be was. Is was. You and I had been talking about doing this show for a while when we launched it in March we sort of set out with some goals and a plan what we wanted and things like that. And and you know, I saw the cars you're getting and and I said, well, let's talk about them. And let's make the show, you know, assure about the news, and what's going on in the car world in racing and have Edmonds come in and tell us, you know, that, but it it should be a little bit about what we're doing is well in the car projects that we have and what we like. And there's no secret that I love for there's no secret that you love dodge. And and that's and that's fine. So a lot of this dodge talk has come from. And my Ford talk as well has come from what we love to do. So. You know? Guys got to have to like everybody. That's let's see kind of have to like be a little bit patient is is we are so excited about this. We're excited about is is we launched a show in March. And now, you're doing dodge commercials. And of course, you have more foam of your cars, and and and being able to share these experiences and and book, but who knows like you were saying, you know, you wouldn't think to be driving a Ford raptor for a week to see how it is. And you did and those are the experiences that we love that we want to talk about with you guys. So. And those of you are listening. We wanna hear those experiences from you as well. What do you like what are you drive? So truly truly does separate us from a lot of the other people out there because we don't just talk about it. We live we experience it from day today. Second to second. And it's not something that we get paid to talk about though, we do from time to time get paid to talk about it. But the things that we talk about are not forced by any stretch immagination in the automobile world, and then this industry, you know, you can tell somebody you can you can identify fag quite easily and quite quickly. And we're we're the furthest thing from it. And hey, I just wish that I wouldn't have to have to bought six dodges to get a commercial. I was just gonna say. So you, and I we have spent way more money on cars, yet we've ever gonna get paid for doing any ads live shows. Like, I it's it's sure it offsets a little bit which is nice but nowhere near like nowhere near even close. But here's the caveat. The caveat is both you and I are fine. I know I am because it's what I love to do that wouldn't change it for anything in the world. And I'm extremely lucky as are you that we know what we like, and we can live it, and we can breathe it and we can experience in every day. I was telling somebody about it yesterday. How do you figure out? What car you're going to drive? Well, it's just completely dependent upon the weather where I'm going and what I wanna compass and to be able to make those decisions and being a position to make those. Decisions one of the luckiest guys in the world. And don't think for a second that I don't realize that. But there's if I if I didn't have a sponsor if I didn't have an affiliation with any car company. We didn't have this podcast. I'd be talking about the same thing every day. Right. And a free rein. Yeah. It's ingrained in our hearts, man. What we do what we love. Absolutely. And we want to hear that from from you guys as well. So you can always you can always Email us at car cash show at g mail dot com. But another way is to show us and this this brings up our tenth year anniversary of car cast. We're having a huge car show of vent. At the Petersen museum here in LA. It is Sunday March tenth you can go and get tickets at Adam Corolla dot com or you can go to Peterson dot org. You get tickets to the event there's there's a handful of ants. I maybe Chris has a little more detail on this. But I'm gonna I'm gonna take a shot at it. There is a car show from two to four and everyone's invited. I think it's like thirty five bucks to bring a car in their twenty bucks. If you just want to be a spectator. But brings your car every car, I wanna see big small trucks electric gas. Powered diesel anything you guys want to bring. I wanna see it out there. Doesn't have to be the best of the best. I wanna see what you guys the listeners drive. We're gonna throw a hundred bucks out there for anybody who brings a Pinto. I think I think po- Bachman bought the Galvin Pinto. That was a racing car back in the day. And he was so excited about that. 'cause you bring that up. I want everything out there. We're going to be judging cars, we're going to be handing out awards. There's going to be a people's choice award for the cars as well. They're all going to get voted on the way in. Hopefully, we're we're locking down the schedule. Hopefully, Gobert you're going to be there with something. Cool bring something up. I'm gonna I think I'm gonna bring the three I'm on the fence. If I bring the the Mustang out there, obviously, it doesn't run, but it looks good. And it you know, it rolls around. I know it's been on the lift for years. So maybe it's time to get it off the live for like a weekend. I've used afraid that if I move it off the lift and bring to the car show someone's going to Adams going to put something on the lift real quick. And then I'll be stuck. So we'll we'll see about that. But Jay Leno said he's coming out, and he's bringing car Mike Brewer from wheeler-dealer says coming out, he's bringing car our buddy Chris Jacobs for Motor Trend TV and discovery and all the bear Jackson auctions, and he's got shows all over the place. He's a mo- par guy. He said he's he's bringing the car. So we'd love to see Chris Jacobs come out there. He's such a good, dude. And I just found out that my co host Brad Fanshawe from shifting sear. He's coming out and he's bringing a car and he's bringing his business partner. Michael Anthony from van Halen in the circle think Michael just bought a Mercedes AM G G T. And I think it's got it all done like a satin black. It's going to be kind of medicine. And he may be bringing that I hope Brad brings something out of his out of his older muscle car collection. Maybe as El Camino or maybe his Baldwin motion Vega or something like that. I want him to bring something cool. So I gave him the heads up last week. And I said start working start to a little way changing the oil. Gotta do. So this should be a good event. So there's the car show that's two four after that. There's a screening of the Willie team ribs country. You can get a separate ticket to that. And that at night there is a Adam Corolla show, which is also a ten year anniversary celebration and Adams guest. I believe is going to be Jimmy Kimmel some right? It is Jimmy. Okay. Do we know if? The screening or ACS or sold out yet. I believe the podcast is sold out. All right. So you might be able to you can get the screening, but check check now because as we're recording. This you're going to hear this on a Wednesday as you're listening to this. There might be a few tickets left for the car show. Definitely because we can fit a lot more people to screening is limited to a few hundred people. And and the Adam Kroll shows limited to a few hundred people. So hopefully, we'll see we'll see you guys out there as well before we wrap up. 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The Murder of Angie Dodge

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The Murder of Angie Dodge

"True crime brewery contains disturbing content related to real light crimes. Medical information is opinion based on facts of a crime and should not be interpreted as medical advice or treatment listener discretion is advised. Welcome to true crime brewery. I'm jill and i'm dick. Eighteen year old and she dodge had just moved into her first department back in nineteen ninety six with her. Life was suddenly and violently snuffed out in nineteen ninety eight. A young man named christopher tap was convicted of angie's murder. The prosecution's case relied on chris's confession. The defense argued that the confession was coerced and that the state was ignoring. Dna evidence from an unknown suspect. Angie's heartbroken mother. Carol dodge was left to wonder about the suspect that was still at large after years. Of seeking the real truth carol. Dodge watched chris's confession. Tapes appalled by the interogations. She reached out to an expert in false. Confessions who in turn contacted the innocence project but it would take several more years. And the work of sports in dna genealogy to find angie's real killer and finally exonerate. Chris tap the use of genealogical familial searching and its success in this and other cases has really exciting implications for future criminal investigations. The public has shown approval for the technique overall. However there really are some privacy concerns over the use of private genetic data to implicate a person or even his or her relatives in a crime. Join us at the quiet. End for our discussion. On the murder of angie dodge by putting together a dna profile and identifying relatives in the suspect's family tree genealogists cc more and a dna consulting firm called paragon. Were able to find. Angie's killer carol. Dodge had really been crucial in the exoneration of her daughters convicted killer. Chris tap by casting a bright light on the failings of our criminal justice system. If not for her determination chris would still be an innocent man. in prison and angie's real killer would still be walking free so this is a really exciting case. It's one we've been keeping our eye on for years. Actually so i'm really excited to talk to you about it today. Dick a very good case. So i needed an idaho beer. And i picked one called the dogfather from laughing. Dog brewery and ponder idaho. This is an imperial stout measures in at eleven percent. Ab the so. It's a deep black beer in colour with a small mocha ahead. Nice aroma chocolate brown sugar. Coffee and vanilla taste of dark chocolate. Slow and molasses pretty filling in your mouth. You're not gonna chuck this in other words now. It sounds like a delicious sipping beer on a chilly winter night that it is all right. So let's open some up we will. We'll split this bottle. Okay over here in the quiet end of got the dogs asleep so it's a good time to record or we'll see how long they can sleep. Well right in the worst that can happen. While they're sleeping is there could be a little dog snoring but should be pretty good. Let's get started. Okay angie ray. Dodge was born december. Twenty first nineteen seventy seven in vancouver washington. She is the youngest of four children and was the only daughter of carole and jack dodge. Angie a gifted intelligent girl very enthusiastic. She really loved nature and outdoor activities. Camping was one of the favorite things that her family did together. And angie became really resourceful at setting up the tent finding water and cooking over an open fire and she really loved christmas. Her birthday was just a few days before christmas and was celebrated with a big combine family christmas and birthday party and he loved the big family. Christmas parties gave gifts of her specially made christmas necklaces. And the party's always included a program to celebrate the birth of jesus and angelic part of mother. Mary yes so really a wholesome family although of course they weren't without their problems but angie and her cousin. Eliza would make playhouses under the staircase of the family's home and then the two girls would play there for hours with their cabbage patch. Dolls elissa wrote for the website. Angie dodge dot com that each doll had a special name and a little pacify and those dolls really seemed real to them as little girls. It was important to both of them that they took good care of these dolls by feeding bathing jing diapers even scheduling naps. So they were way into this and she started out in preschool in san diego california but then she attended elementary school. Junior high and high school in idaho falls in high school. Edgy tutored younger. Children in both math and english and she graduated from. Idaho falls high school in nineteen ninety five with honors. Angie was a bigger girl she was six feet tall plus. She was very gregarious and outspoken. So a person that was really hard to miss and a person who had a big group of friends angie's mom carol has written about her. Last precious moments spent with her daughter on june twelfth of nineteen ninety six. Angie had stopped by the family. Home around nine fifteen pm that evening and shared her excitement about you know living in her own apartment. She's only eighteen but she's very independent while chatting with angie. Carol reached out to give her a hug and carol remembers that angie rested her head on her shoulder and they rocked back and forth almost as if they were dancing and she told her mom that she had done something stupid but carol didn't ask about it. The two had had an argument and a bit of a falling out just three weeks earlier and carol didn't want to pry bring up any source subjects. So carol whispered to angie that she would always be her baby and told her how much she loved her and she left her mom around ten twenty pm and return to her. New apartment in carol remembers her daughter pulling away kind of in slow motion. She threw carol kiss and she whispered. I love you. Neither mother daughter knew of course that this would be their last moments together on the evening of june twelfth. Visiting her mother. Angie had some unexpected guest arrived at her apartment around eleven thirty. These visitors told police that they believed angie had been in bed when they showed up but she still let them into socialize now. These are three close female friends and while they were chatting and visiting they were in the living room kitchen or the outside porch but not in her bedroom which is significant to note so it was wednesday june thirteenth. When angie failed to show up for her seven. Am shift at the cosmetic supply distributor beauty for all seasons to co workers. Tried calling her but she didn't answer her phone and at about eleven. Am the two co workers. Went to angie's apartment to check on her. They were getting worried. They found the front door to angie's apartment ajar and they entered in angie's upstairs apartment at four four. One i street in idaho falls idaho. They found angie's body lying on her bedroom floor semi nude bloodied and still so they called the police. After the police arrived at the apartment they confirmed that andrew was dead and this was from a knife attack. They learned that. Angie had lived there for less than a month and that she'd had friends visiting her until after midnight the night before those girlfriends and they last saw angie standing on her front porch saying good night to them. There's an elderly landlady living downstairs. And she had not heard or seen anything during the night now she also had some guests spending the night who heard nothing and neither had any of the neighbors. so angie's apartment was in an older home and it had houses on either side and houses across the street in front and across an alley in the back. The back yard was fully fenced in and it had a gate on either side. There was an attached garage in the backyard and it had an overhead door which opened out into the alley. The idaho falls business. District is just over three blocks south of the house and the interstate highway can be accessed just two miles away. And she's apartment had its own stairway and entrance that open to the front porch. The stairwell entrance had a glass storm door and also a glass exterior door which she kept locked inside of that exterior door. There was a light switch and this controlled the front porch light and also the light above the stairs and all of these lights were in working order and the exterior door locked did work and anti was known to use it habitually now at the top of the stairs. There's no door. The landing just opened into a hallway leading to the kitchen on the left and the bedroom and living room on the right. The one bathroom was located at the end of that hallway. The bedroom and bathroom doors didn't lock. There were large windows in the bedroom and the living room the hallway stairs. Living room and bedroom were all carpeted. There was no furniture besides a couple of small tables and an air mattress in the bedroom. She's the only person living there and remember. She just moved in recently. Doesn't have a lot of money to blow. But she did keep it tidy and clean and there would be no signs of forced entry. Angie's time of death was determined to be somewhere between twelve thirty. Am and eleven am. Investigators believed that the killer had entered her apartment through the exterior stairwell door. The door that was founded jar or the killer could have climbed in the story kitchen door after climbing onto the roof. This story didn't swing shut on. Its own who was founded jar. According to friends of angie left the patio kitchen door open to allow air to circulate through the apartment. Yeah remember it's chance. Tot young and by her known routine. The exterior stairwell door was kept lot while the kitchen patio. Upstairs door was often left. Open that open door led to a deck. Which could be easily accessed by climbing a few steps and climbing from the downstairs roof up to the deck in. If you think about climbing to a roof it sounds like a lot of work but if you look at this house it's really quite simple. It's very low. It's easy to access. If angie knew her killer she may have led him in through the front stairwell door but there was no evidence of a struggle outside of the bedroom where she'd been killed so whether he was leading by angie or if he surprised her by a sudden attack this was just brutal he had likely brought his own knife with him and took it with him when he left the scene. The killer probably exited the apartment by that exterior stairwell door and that would be before daylight because that door was ajar so this suggests that he didn't wanna make noise by shutting the door completely and he didn't want to be seen exiting from the front of the house. Like i said this was a really warm summer night. So a lot of neighbors had their windows open and the landlady living below was asleep. Down there with her two houseguests. No one reported hearing any screams so the killer head of covered her mouth as he grabbed her from behind. at least. That's what we think probably happened. Wounds on her hands forearms front torso and neck really indicate that she was controlled by her killer at least with his left arm as he stabbed and slashed at her with his right hand. Now this is horrible but her attacker had a jack united on angie's body and that's how he left. Dna at the scene. He could have cut angie's throat and ejaculated on her after she was dead in a lot of the profiler is believed. That's the case because it does seem that he did spend some time with her body after killing her other than the immediate spot where angie's body had been found. The house was not disturbed. There is a lamp even on the bedside table that was still standing upright and straight so the experts looking into the case would determine it. There is only one attacker. And that angie had been taken by surprise she may have actually been asleep when she was first struck on the head and she fell to the floor. Let's batter was low on the wall. Only about to be high which indicated that she had likely already been on the floor when she was stabbed and slashed a comforter found on her bedroom floor had bled on it but it was not collected or testing now. This year of the idaho falls police department to collect. That evidence and other evidence really showed that the investigators were already making some assumptions so they assumed first of all. The blood belonged to angie and no one else but some of it are a lot of it could have come from the killer. Well i just think when you're doing an investigation like this. You can't assume anything especially in the beginning. You have to just save everything that could be evidence because you don't know what happened and you can't assume to know right there would also be testimony about hundreds of photos being taken at that crime scene and also at angie's city but the defense was only given about a dozen photos so that could possibly be seen as a brady violation So the police began their investigation on the very day. That angie is found. They didn't do a very thorough job. Canvassing the neighborhood. The firstly they actually had and that was the one that led them to christopher tap happen when they learned that a friend of christopher. And angie name benjamin. Hobbs had been arrested for rape at knife point in nevada. The seemed like a real lead. The perpetrator new angie and he was already accused of raping a woman at knifepoint. Sure i mean. I think that's reasonable but we have to remember. This wasn't until january. I think it was january fifth that he was arrested. And that's when the police started talking to friends of ben. And that's when christopher tap got pulled into this so there's already a few months that have elapsed. Yes several so chris tap. He was still young. He had dropped out of high school and he was really using a lot of pot hanging out with a group of guys down by a river in town. Actually he and angie were part of this group of young people locally called the river rats who hung out by the trails along the snake river and this was pretty close to angie's apartment precede also been seen with angie at a get together the night before she was killed but a lot of people had two other guys who hung out with chris. And with ben. Hobbs were named. Jeremy and tom and police were focusing on this group of guys. After ben. hobbs was arrested for the sexual assault. So jeremy and. Tom did go into talk to police. But time and jeremy's fathers both hired attorneys for them and they stopped talking early on ben. Hobbs had an attorney because he was already in trouble in nevada and he told him not to speak with the police anymore so it was just chris who was talking. His father kept bringing him back to the station for these long interogations and he didn't have a parent or a lawyer beside him like other people have made the mistake in the past. They thought well he's innocent. He hasn't done anything wrong. he doesn't have anything to hide. Why not go talk to the police big mistake. Because of chris didn't return to be interrogated repeatedly there really would have been no case against him. You're ready kirk goldberg. He did and he was trying to help. Your car was young and naive. His mother seemed to have kind of a better view that this was not going well and he probably shouldn't be doing it but chris and his dad thought one of the interrogators. They knew quite well and chris was innocent so they really didn't see the in it. Although after repeated interrogations things did start to look pretty dark for chris while they did and then the guy policeman doing most of the interrogating was telling him. You know i'm gonna take care of you. I'm looking out for you. Yard is really luring him in. He certainly was a lot of manipulation. So chris i interview by. The police was on january seventh and he was released. He was re interviewed on january. Tenth and police scheduled another interview with him the following day before the third interview took place. His parents hired an attorney. And chris didn't show up for the scheduled interview. The police went to his house where his mother told him. Their son would come to the station on january thirteenth with his attorney to answer questions rather than wait. The police return with an arrest warrant and charged chris with being an accessory to murder. Yes so this was like a friday afternoon. And i think that's why they ended up getting an attorney out of the yellow pages always seems like bad things happen on the weekend. When nothing's open anytime we have a dog who sick. It's the weekend but in the first interview. Chris had said neither he nor been hobbs. Were involved in angie's death and that he really knew nothing about it then at the next interview on january tenth. Chris said that. Ben hobbs had killed angie and asked him to provide an alibi for him. On january fifteenth is story changed again and he said that he had been with hobbs. Win hubs killed angie. He said hobbs was angry. At angie for trying to break up his marriage but will learn that all of these story changes. Were really being fed to chris by the detectives. He was just trying to satisfy them and go home yet. Most of the interviews were recorded. But chris taps attorney watched on of monitor from a separate room wasn't even the same room that's so shady. Chris like many people before him and after him believed that since he was innocent and he had nothing to hide then talking to the police couldn't harm him exactly. Yeah but boy see wrong now. After at least nine interrogation of chris his mother told him he wasn't gonna talk to them anymore. And that's when the police got the warrant for his arrest this is on a weekend and as you said. You'll chris it an attorney looking through the yellow pages. But his attorney didn't do his due diligence. He kept allowing him to be questioned again and again without being present and chris kept talking and kept being manipulated by the detectives. Yes so let's talk a little bit about the reid technique because that's a really popular method of interrogation and it was used by these investigators but not correctly. There's training available in this technique all over the country. And there were a couple of the detectives interrogating cress. That seemed pretty familiar with the technique but not familiar enough to use at the correct way. The tactics taught are not supposed to be used to talk a suspect into believing he committed a crime. Other objectional uses in this case include threatening consequences promising leniency in return for a confession and conducting long drawn out interogations. But that's exactly what was done with chris. Tap and just through january of nineteen ninety seven. Chris had been interrogated nine times and for over twenty hours. Detectives just refuse to accept his repeated denials to being involved and when he refused to implicate ben hobbs. He was arrested and he was held in jail. We finally implicated hobbs. He would be released so it's really obvious when watching the interrogation tapes that detectives weren't looking for new information. They were just working to wear down chris until he would implicate ben hops. They had their sights set on ben being the murderer but when hobbes was determined not to be responsible or not even present at the crime scene. They're focused turn to getting chris's confession. Never mind that. The confession didn't match any of the evidence they were willing to work with it and change it and make it what they needed it to be. Sure as they got the confession. It really seems that way. Dick i don't want to criticize the police. I know a lot of them. Do a great job but here there are some real problems. Well and that's going to get pointed out. Yeah but it just takes so long for a very long time. So these are pretty grueling interrogation. Chris was convinced to implicate. Ben hobbs under the threat of prosecution the urging of detectives and with leading questions. Chris confessed to be involved in the murder which he claimed was committed by ben hobbs. Dna from semen that had been collected at the crime scene did not match. Hobbs and did not match chris tap. But this didn't stop the investigators they determine that three people had been involved in the crime. Because if we don't have hobson taps dna there that's got to be a third person. They're right. this is just such flawed. Thinking really is it really is. I mean normally if the dna doesn't match that person's eliminated right but not here well and they're not even looking at what is the most obvious thing there's one set of dna. There's one perpetrator. I don't know why you would think. Well we got these two guys. So they had to be a third guy. Just because the dna does imagine as just a convoluted way of thinking well yes and investigators from larger cities with more experience as well as the fbi would say that. Chris tap doesn't even match the profile of the type of person who commits this kind of crime. Now remember that. Angie had some female friends who visited her on the night of june twelfth. And she didn't take them into her bedroom. But then according to. Chris taps confession he showed up with two other men and they were high and it was one m and she invited them in to talk with her in the bedroom. I don't think so you're right so at first. Chris didn't think this was believable. Either he at first said that the crime happened in the living room but the detectives corrected him and it took a long time. Finally they got him to change the story to angie inviting them into her bedroom to talk with encouragement. Well that's a nice way to put it now. One of the police. involved. In chris's interogations was detective named jared furman and this guy had a previous relationship with chris. Been the resource officer at chris. Junior high school. Now during chris's interrogation firm presented himself as chris's friend. He told chris that he would take the fall for the crimes alone if he didn't name. Ben hobbes's the killer. Now do you think they were well intentioned. Because i don't know how this guy could sleep at night. He must have really believed it was true is all i could think of everything. We've watched pertaining to this case. Yeah firm and end the other detective. They are positive that this was a valid confession. They never stray from that story. I now but they change it. That's the thing under pressure and told what to say by. The police kris told stories of angie's murder that would change from one interrogation to the next and as he really tried to create a story to police the police. They gave him an immunity agreement. If you told the truth he would have immunity from prosecution. He was told so. Chris agreed to take a polygraph test. Actually kind of excited. Because he thought well the truth of his innocence would come out because to him. This was a what truth or lie machine. It was one hundred percent valid in his mind. But you know. These interrogators used the polygraph to get him to confess to being involved in the crime and it was so manipulative. The polygraph examiner would ask a question and then he would tell chris what was true and what wasn't true just encouraging him to change his story to match what they wanted and chris didn't understand like a lot of people don't that the police can lie to you. They were telling him a lot of untruths and he thought well you know a firm in saying it must be true. In when the dna didn't match that of chris's friend jeremy serge's firm untold chris that he had lied to him about jeremy being inches apartment on the night she was killed and boom. They revoked his immunity agreement for what that was worth anyway. Bunch of spit and after that the interrogation continued. Chris was encouraged to implicate himself after that the police tried to get him on the record giving information to them which only the killer would know and they just failed miserably with that. Now of chris could have identified the house the area where the assault happened. Where the position of angie's body. The police would have known that he was guilty but is wrong about all those facts. He thought the house on a corner but it was in the middle of the block. He said that. Angie had been stabbed in her living room but it was her bedroom so what they ended up doing was taken chris to the crime scene. They walked in through the crime scene but did not record anything. That was said to chris. Or by chris during this visit. So that seems sneaky to me. You're right chris. Had never been to the apartment before they esten to walk them through what had happened but when a statements didn't mesh the evidence that got angry and fed him the facts they wanted to hear and this was when he implicated himself. Although was not recorded. yes let. I think no detectable reason for why. The police accepted some versions of chris's story but rejected others. They really handpicked the statements that followed their theory of what had happened and totally disregarded everything else that chris told them. The detectives accepted as true. Anything that agreed with their theory and didn't let the facts get in the way of this. Hurry up how are we going to be ready for the five k. If you keep stopping couple blocks. He can't help it. Every time i get in the zone in absorbed podcast. It's interrupted by advertisements. Like ad. So i have to stop and fast forward on my phone. Each time scream anymore. You're blocking traffic. Well my only consolation is that are true. Cranberry listeners have an ad free option by going to our website. Tag river dot com. You can subscribe for a bonus. Episodes at reversions of our regular weekly shows and a gift of tcp merch subscribing customers littlest dollars a month. I know it's a great deal. Makes an original gift for to crime fans please. let's get back to our brenick. Gotta bhadra curiel waiting for me at home. The tactics they used against chris were really overwhelming to him and he reached a breaking point and agreed that ben. Hobbs had told him to cut angie's right breast or hobbes would kill him too so when he was told that there was overwhelming evidence against him. Chris didn't know that the police could legally lie to him so he was believing everything and this actually caused him not to trust his own memories of events and the truth became whatever. The police detectives told him it was so the detectives told him his subconscious could be blocking his memories if he couldn't remember being at the crime and this is heartbreaking because he really was just a kid and you can see him saying well. Wouldn't i remember that though. Well not necessarily. They'd say you could be blocking it. Which is outrageous. They're not even psychologists but the focus of these detectives was really more on getting a conviction than on solving the crime. At least at this point now. So normally fa- suspect's dna does not match then. The suspect isn't prosecuted. But in chris's case they double down and insisted that chris was involved without knowing who had left the dna behind the police put together. Version of events agreed upon with the prosecutor's office. And here's their story. The idaho falls police department laid out based on their own beliefs. Instead of real evidence. Benjamin hobbs wife had broken up with him. Recently at the urging of angie daij so this caused hobbs to be angry with angie then chris tap ben hobson. The unknown suspect arrived at angela's apartment between twelve thirty and went thirty in the morning on june thirteenth. Nineteen ninety. six with hobbes's stated intent to talk to angie about her involvement in his wife leaving him at the time of this visit. All three of these guys were high on marijuana. Hobbs knocked angie's downstairs door. She answered it and invited them in the four of them when angie's bedroom to talk and the conversation started out. Okay but as soon turn confrontational and became physical. Hobbs cold cock dante punching her in the face and knocking her onto her back. He punched her any stabbed. Her hobson coach chris to help him by holding down angie as he and the unidentified suspect repeatedly raped and sexually assaulted her. Hobbs raped angie and the ended when identified. Suspect raped her. Chris held it down. During the attack than hans force chris to mutilate angie's body by slashing her breast with a knife so that he would share culpability for the crime. And finally hobbs then cut angie's throat killing her then. Three of them cleaned up the blood kitchen and left. They disposed to the knife in their bloody clothing at some unknown location. So it's just not believable to me. That if all this happened and chris went all these interogations and knowing who he was as far as his in his maturity and what he'd gone through why wouldn't he tell them who the third person was. It doesn't seem likely that he would keep that a secret. Whoa no no. So he'd say didn't know the guy's name and then they would talk him into making up a guy's name and it was just ridiculous. Chris went to trial for angie's rape and murder in nineteen ninety eight and he did hire a better attorney who was recommended by another inmate. This attorney booker tried to get the confession thrown out but the judge wouldn't throw it out. The jurors could not believe that someone would make a false confession like this especially in a murder case so there was absolutely no other evidence but chris was convicted just on the basis of this coerced confession and also a little bit on the testimony of a woman who said she had overheard chris talking about the murder at a party. But that woman would later tell carol dodge and also a local news person that she had lied on the stand. Because she'd been pressured by the police to do so just one more example of the brilliance of this police department. Yeah but you know. Chris was eligible for the death penalty at his sentencing hearing. He asked the judge to spare his life. Carol testified in favor of the death penalty. Chris was given life in prison plus fifteen years. Carol was furious. She believed that he was one of angie's killers and she said that. Chris deserved death but she would definitely have a turnaround on that or one eighty. Yeah so prosecutors. Said they would continue to look for the other person involved in the murder. The man who had left his dna at the crime scene. Carol was really concerned about this. Because if she's believing what the police tell her in. Initially she was there was a man out there free who had been involved in angie's murder and of course. This is a danger to the community. As well as keeping carol from getting justice for her daughter so it was in two thousand one. When chris recanted his confession and argued that he had been coerced by the police and fed information to put together this confession. His case was finally reviewed by the idaho. Innocence project a student and professor at boise state university. Who were working with. The project reviewed these interrogation tapes and they concluded that chris had been coerced into confessing. In fact it was one of the worst cases of coercion. they'd ever seen. That wouldn't be a surprise. In both the cases we've done particularly the ones that there was alleged or real coercion of the witness to get a confession. This is about the worst. it really is. Yeah then one day. Carol received a call from an inmate at the texas prison where chris tap had been transferred. This inmate asked her what she wanted done to kris. As if we'll beat the hell out of him if you want something like that cure or kill him and carol said. She didn't want anything done to him. She just wanted the name of the guy who had been with him and had left his dna at the scene. And there's no reason why we could think that he would be withholding that name if he knew it know what's in it for him right so after that. Carol received a letter in the mail from chris tap himself. Chris wrote that he didn't know who had killed. Her daughter and carol had been so convinced by the idaho falls. Police department that. Chris was involved in angie's murder that she never even considered that he might be innocent prior to this but she decided to look into it. There were some hanky things you know especially him not mentioning the name of the third person. And why wasn't ben hobbs on trial that as well so. She requested copies of the interrogation tapes from the police and she began watching them laying them over and over and taking notes and she was pretty shocked during the interviews. Police already knew that. Chris was not the source of the semen at the crime scene. Carol watched as they pushed him to name an accomplice and even promised him leniency. Which we said is a no no if he was to name someone and again and again. Chris said he wasn't at the scene of the crime. They fed him two names and then he agreed that they were there then. The dna didn't match those guys. Chris said it was someone named. This was disturbing to carol because it really seemed like chris was just making up a name to get firm into stop interrogating him in pressuring him. In a case review is done by the nonprofit group judges for justice in two thousand fourteen. This was after carol. Dodge had contacted the idaho innocence project with her concerns and after eight months in investigating the evidence. Judges for justice. Decided that neither chris. Nor ben hobbs had had anything to do with angie's murder yes so based on the information they reviewed. They determined that. The idaho. False pd investigation into angie dodgers. Murder was begun immediately and the detectives were working hard. It was a genuine effort. The first weeks of the investigation seemed pretty appropriate. Did take dna blood samples from at thirty men in idaho falls but then in january of nineteen ninety seven after the arrest of ben. Hobbs for that unrelated rape in. Eli nevada the investigation. Just really went off course. You're the idaho falls. Detectives decided the circumstances of ben on crime in nevada was so similar to the mo in angie's murder that this itself was evidence of hobbes's involvement angie's murder. That's maybe aronie is thinking right there. Well it totally is it similar. But he didn't kill this other woman this conclusion and the reaction to it. Set the police department contract to fit the evidence to their rather than putting together evidence to construct a theory. And that's kind of at the heart of the whole problem right there. You're they know how they wanted to turn out. They just have to figure out a way to get it to turn out that way exactly. So they're not following the evidence. They're kind of the evidence that matches what they think happened. And the detectives incorrect conclusion is believed to have clouded their judgment and guided their priorities in the investigation into this tunnel vision stemming from what they call confirmation bias. Confirmation bias is subconscious prejudice in favor of a conclusion that they had already reached. So the bias rejects any evidence inconsistent with the pre decided conclusion and accepts anything consistent with it to the more emotionally invested. The person is in the case. The stronger is the bias. And i think they were very emotionally invested. There weren't a lot of murders there and carol was at the police station constantly. Absolutely and of course they felt for her. Who wouldn't who it was certainly strike more at home. If you're in small town. Idaho and there's not like you said a lot of murders in that place that when there is one they're really into it yes so the detectives may very well have been well meaning but really emotional. Detachment is crucial especially in cases like this herbs lou mean as we know in all aspects of our lives motion can influence judgment. That's why family members of a victim or suspect aren't allowed to be on the jury because there's bias. Psychological studies have shown that the number one reason for a person making errors in judgment is confirmation bias. So it's really an interesting thing to read about. If you're interested so after the interview with chris tap in january of nineteen ninety seven. The idaho falls police department. Investigation went forward under the preconceived conclusion. That ben. Hobbs had killed. Angie detective for men convinced chris that then hops guilty by saint had evidence against hobbes. And also. that hobbes's implicating. Chris in the murder. So that's extremely manipulative. And i guess it's a tool that probably has worked in cases where the suspect is guilty but in that case you have to watch out for the confirmation bias and be focused on following that evidence. Firmin's belief in ben hubs guilt was really strong despite having no evidence other than that unrelated rape in nevada. There really was no motive for ben. Hobbs to kill angie or even to be angry with her. There's no evidence that angie had anything to do with his wife leaving him and moving away to utah. There was quite a bit of evidence. However that angie and ben were good friends. Angie had consoled him. After that break-up so that motive had been created by the police to fit into their theory in his first interrogation. Chris repeatedly said that. Angie and ben were friends benz estranged wife. Her name is deanne. Calloway told detective firm in that. Angie had nothing to do with the break-up of her in ben but he wasn't going to let it go because it worked his theory right so he clung to that motive for the murder. Yes so the case. Move forward with no evidence of chris's guilt and plenty of evidence that it wasn't him when evidence or witness testimony contradicted firm in stary it got disregarded. The scene described by chris in his confession conflicted with the physical evidence autopsy results for rennes science psychology and basic logic. So they're the repeated. Polygraphs of chris were not accurate or valid and on january tenth nineteen ninety seven. Detective fin the polygraph. Examiner threatened chris with the gas chamber. He also lied to chris which again that's legal about whether the tests showed deception or not right so just leading him down this bad path and having him question his own memory because of the machine says he's deceptive than he must be remembering it wrong so he's putting all his faith in the machine above his own memory so based on all of the available evidence. The judges for justice concluded that neither chris tapped nor been hobbs. Were involved in angie's murder at all. The crime was determined to have been committed by a male meeting. The characteristics of a disorganized killer who lived in the proximity to angie at the time of her murder. So let's go over the disorganized killer profile. Because i'm not really familiar with it and a lot of people probably aren't angie's crime scene was consistent with what is known as a disorganized crime scene. And the idaho falls police department detectives discarded reports from a special agent named less stimson of the idaho state police and a lieutenant morgan hendrix of bonneville county sheriff's department which both offered some insight into the profile. This is really a crucial mistake. Because the insights came from fbi profiler who see more sexual homicides in one week then the idaho falls. Police would see in their entire careers. So i would turn to them. If i were an idaho falls police department detective. You think you'd wanna talk to the experts were. Yeah if you're seeing something that's rare. You could use the help yes. I don't know if that's an ego thing or if it's just in the tunnel vision may be both probably both so the disorganized sexual killers characteristics. Are socially inadequate unmarried lives alone or with a parent lives close to the crime. Scene is sexually incompetent and is below average intelligence and low in the birth order in their family. As far as the crime scene goes a disorganized crime. Scene is one where the crime is committed. Suddenly a set plan the offender uses what they call a blitz style attack approaching the victim from behind or even while she's asleep so there's very minimal verbal interaction and the victim is killed quickly. Masturbation and mutilation are done after death. Also there's no attempt to clean the scene or hide the body. We know that. Angie was left exposed on our floor and her killer had left semen on her body in the area of her upper thigh and on the way of her sweatpants. So the position of sweatpants strongly suggests that there was no penile vaginal rape. They were only like a few inches pulled down from her waist. In these rapes the victims pants are almost always completely removed. And that was not the case here. Even though that's what chris's confession said in in the police also made a big deal in their investigation about some marks on an. She's left wrist. They alleged that the marks had been caused by someone holding angie's arms down by her wrists but there are no corresponding marks on her right wrist and there is significant evidence to show that the marks on the left wrist were not caused by someone restraining. Her the left wrist marks are described as sma- in a chain like and the watch worn by. Angie had an identical pattern the area where the clasp was could look like a thumb mark pressed on the skin. But once you look at the watch it's just a no brainer. It wasn't on her wrist when her body was found. But the idaho falls police department also made no record of where the watch was found in the crime scene. So that's the big one to overlook as well the disorganized sexual killer axe under impulse and usually target someone living in the same area and the killer axe to de personalize his victim. So this explains overkill in the case. This no penis penetration by this type of offender and another important aspect. Is that the disorganized. Sexual killer. axe alone in group is really unheard of. Yes neither chris. Tap nor ben. Hobbs fit this profile. Chris didn't know or angie lived because he allegedly drove to angie's house with directions. He is of average intelligence and he had a lot of friends but there were several men. Living an angie's neighborhood one of which could even see into her bedroom window from his own bedroom. These men had not been confirmed to have been tested for dna to find a match to. The semen left on angie at the scene. That to me is just seems like a really big thing to overlook. Why wouldn't you try and test everyone in the neighborhood especially men that meet that profile so just a little bit. I'd like to talk about ben. Hobbs crime and eli nevada which really set off the investigation into kris van. The only two common factors in the nevada rape and angie sexually motivated murder was the use of a knife in a sexual assault. The rape in nevada committed by ben. Hobbs was violent and of course it was horrible but the knife was used to threaten the victim and she wasn't cut or killed with it. Also hobbs new this woman and he completed the sex act with penis penetration and hobb's showed remorse for that rape and he didn't run away for it. He admitted to it. So hobbes crime certainly made him a logical suspect in the beginning to investigate. But it certainly didn't merit tunnel vision and the end to following up on other leads in angie's murder which were neglected. Yes the emo differences in the two cases became clear. The idaho falls police department should have started looking at other suspects and when the dna did not match. Either chris or even the theory of angie. Being murdered by. Chris and or ben should have been set aside but the detectives chose a hunch over actual physical evidence. But you know they really didn't go. After ben hobbs in how did they explain that you're warriors there. I don't know it seems very suspicious that they didn't do that. Ben had an attorney who was protecting him. And that's the only reason i could see why they let that go and concentrated on poor chris there because it seems like they're pretty convinced that chris and hobbs acted together with a third person. Well because someone left that. Dna wasn't chris or bed. Berthoud incharge no one invaluable tool in a homicide investigation is using what is called sole source information. What this is. It's unique information that would only be known by the perpetrator and this is what judges for justice call culpable knowledge so this type of information can really establish or eliminate the possibility of actual guilt. And that's especially true in the case of a false confession the more people who know confidential details of the crime the less the information can be considered culpable knowledge because it's out there and an angie's murder detailed information on the crime scene leaked from the police. Actually within minutes of her body being discovered angie's landlord was told by the police that angie header throat cut and this knowledge was later used as proof that chris knew something that only the killer could have known. But that's just not true at all. If you watch the recordings of chris's interogations. You see detectives providing details of the crime scene to chris. Then when chris repeated these details back to the detectives they would note. That they came from chris's memory almost like they were finding repressed memories very best document. Yeah i mean the more information. They leaked to him the more. They seem to become convinced that he was guilty. In the murder investigation motivated and even well intentioned idaho falls. Detectives provided extensive crime scene details to chris in his interrogation. The detectives repeatedly tried to convince him that he had been a witness angie's murder and this says he repeatedly told them he had no memory of it and it wasn't just firm indunas. Detectives told chris that he was subconsciously blocking out the memories now. Investigators are allowed to lie to suspects but deception didn't used to provoke a false confession by creating facts however detectives induced chris to claim that ben hops had taken a framed photo from angie's room souvenir and his photo is supposedly of angie with hobbes's estranged wife deanne. Calloway back when dion was interviewed. She said she had never had her picture taken with angie. They weren't close friends and this is just ridiculous. The allegation that the detectives believed was that angie had only one framed photo in her room and it was another family or a boyfriend or a close friend but of this woman. She didn't know well enough to even be photographed with it's tough when the sloppiest stretch then in an effort to explain the slash on angie's breasts. Detectives came up with several different theories before finally landing on the story that ben. Hobbs made chris slash the breast in order to be a participant. Who had not report hops to the police. So this idea that. Chris would hold down a woman to help two other men rape and kill her. Just isn't believable. No these theories really should have raised some concerns right. What about when they went to the prosecutor the prosecutor didn't question any of this. I would hold the prosecutor just as responsible as the investigators themselves pushed for going to trial absolutely without charging the one who supposedly left the dna or actually killed her on dateline in two thousand twelve detective. Kevin brown of the idaho falls police department. Said the chris new minute details about the crime scene. This is a totally made up story. Chris never provided any information. That had not been fed to him by the detectives. he tried. Well that's the sad thing he really tried to please them. Yeah but he was consistently incorrect and afterwards corrected by the detectives. He incorrectly identified the color of the clothing worn by angie. He didn't correctly identify the position of her body and her clothing for example. Chris said that angie's pants were half one leg and completely off the other leg but the sweatpants were fully on both legs and pulled down only a few inches below her pubic area. Chris also never was able to say how many times and she had been stabbed her. According to her autopsy report she had approximately sixteen knife wounds inflicted on her. But chris different times said that she had been stabbed one to three times in fact transcripts and video recordings of chris's interogations show that not one detail of the story. Detectives got chris could be verified as true or culpable knowledge. Yeah this is just fascinating. There were twenty one alleged culpable knowledge facts. Known by chris of these seventeen had been told to him directly. The three were not true at all. Seven had been published in the idaho falls post register six months before he was interrogated. Four were really just common. Knowledge to the entire community of idaho falls because this was a big case and not once. Was chris the first person to mention a specific detail of this crime. So this leaves no evidence to suggest that chris had a single detail of culpable knowledge about the mo of the killer or the crime scene. It's really remarkable. If you think about it it certainly is these methods. That detectives us to coach. Chris into a confession. We're really disturbing and quite obvious right that they were so one really effective technique. That was used was to repeatedly asking the same question until he gave the answer. They wanted and they verbally and non verbally let him know of his answers right or wrong as he continued to make guesses. There was really a lot of guessing. When chris gave incorrect information the detectives corrected and then had him restate his answers until they were satisfied. Another was signalled him to change his answers simply by staring at him when he gave the wrong information and then offering praise when he told them what they wanted to hear in another big problem with. The investigation is that there had been no effort by the police department or the medical examiner to determine the time of death so this allowed investigators to put the time of death at whatever time they wanted to whatever best fit their theories so they placed the time of angie's death somewhere between twelve forty five. Am and six thirty am but the coroner who went to the crime scene did not get a body temperature to help establish narrower time of death and her body was taken to the office of the medical examiner and refrigerated immediately so that destroyed any chance to determine the time of the attack by temperature but even in the absence of body temperature other evidence from the topsy could have been used to help with a time of death. And if this had been done. It's possible that this evidence would have determined. The chris could not have participated in the murder. He was with a roommate from at least three in the morning. Onward on june thirteenth topsy findings had been reviewed and strongly indicate that angie died no earlier than four. Am have ruled about. That would have eliminated him. He asks got an alibi. Yes there was some stuff about the bladder. And since you're a doctor. I'm going to have you talk about that. Because it seems like fairly solid science here who it is. According to the pathologist her bladder heads three hundred miles of urine in it so that's about ten ounces. that's a full bladder. Person on average has an urge to urinate at around one hundred ninety emeals so with its volume in her bladder. It's likely that she'd been asleep when she is attacked during sleep. Your in production continues but the para sympathetic nervous system relaxes the bladder and reduces the urge to urinate which allows people to sleep for several hours. Wake up with a full bladder. So you can make urine at a rate of fm l. to one and a quarter emmaus per minute if you're drinking alcohol. The urine production can increase to seven to twelve emeals. But you can look at that and figure out based on how much urine was in there that the time of death would have been at a time. When chris couldn't have done it when it had alibi. Yeah so that really goes to the fact that someone came in and just pounce donner when she was asleep right. Yes this one attack started right right. We didn't experiment we. I didn't experiment on purpose. It was just one of those things when i was doing my residency and we were watching some baseball game and drinking beer and know we're all scientists so we are trying to determine how much urine bladder could hold so this is like geeky guy stale sort of so we would drink beer and the goal was to hold your urine as long as you could before you couldn't hold it anymore not entirely scientific but close enough and what i found. I could fill a beer bottle and a half or what's at twelve sixteen ounces. So why are we putting the urine and beer bottles. We were outside and we didn't have access to facility okay. Well but doesn't it seem as you get older. You can't hold it as long for me as well. I'm just thinking kids can sleep for twelve fourteen hours. I can never sleep that long. They have to get our know what you mean. He so yeah that's significant and they're also issues with the murder weapon itself. Chris repeatedly described the murder weapon as a folding pocket. Knife also known as a jack knife. Detective brown referred to the knife as a folding knife as well and this type of knife was even shown to chris tap by detective brown but autopsy findings ruled out this type of knife. All of the clearly defined stab wounds on. Angie are described by the pathologist as pointed at both ends so this means that the murder weapon was a double edged nice like a dagger or a butterfly knife pocket or jack knives on pulled from single handle and that handle protects the user from the one sharp edge but double edged knives are either she or they're just out the front and the out. The front knives are those spring loaded stiletto switchblades flutes here and there are legal. Butterfly knives are also double edged in their illegal. Because they're really difficult to unfold without injuring yourself. One of the most questionable theories that led to kristaps conviction is that multiple attacker theory because there was really no evidence to support that and this theory shows just a basic misunderstanding of the crime scene. There were no signs of a fight in her apartment. Even in the bedroom the evidence was just limited to the small area around her body. According to the review done by judges for justice there was no physical fight. The crime is better described as a knife attack against an unarmed sleeping woman. So the fact that angie was a large person did become a factor. Nothing was knocked over. Nothing was broken. The bedroom scene just indicates that shouldn't even have a chance to struggle. The space was actually six by ten feet. So if you had three guys in that room raping her and attacking her. The physical evidence would have been much different when that's more room and closure. Yeah right and maybe it takes a more experienced detective to recognize that no. In the idaho falls detective's version. Angie was stabbed repeatedly before benjamin. Hobbs gathered help from the other two suspects. She should have had substantial defensive wounds because if three men of in fighting with her they should have head wounds as well and a fight with three men would leave behind hair skin cells blood and fingerprints from all three. Not just from one of them. Yeah there was never any claim. That gloves were worn or anything like that now. Watching the interrogation tapes. Some of the most disturbing stuff happens with the multiple polygraphs given to chris. Tap chris's convinced that the polygraph was a truth machine and he didn't understand it. The examiner was legally allowed to lie to him about his results. So this led the chris questioning his own memory and believing that the polygraph new more than even he did about his actions. Yeah like i said. That's just said to watch. In detective steven fins polygraphs his accuracy rate for the energy dodge case was about fifty five percent and this is way below professional standards so his conclusions were just inaccurate in one. Chart that classify chris's answers inconclusive. Finn told chris that he was one hundred percent. So chris that well i guess i don't remember correctly so he had at least twelve polygraphs administered by thin and he was judged to be deceptive in almost all of them other suspects who were never charged in the case where also deemed to be deceptive and there were examinations of men that indicated their involvement. Angie's murder. that's if you listen to detective finn now going. Through the reports. Many questions asked were confusing or compound questions in compound questions should never be used because the answer could be judged incorrectly la. That's like when you put two questions into one for you know. Did you rape angie. And did you kill her. That's not a good question to ask in the final analysis by judges for justice. The actions of the ho- falls police department. Detectives were agreed just even if they started out as well they definitely abandoned basic investigative collins and decided to follow their hunches instead of the evidence and this failure resulted in the incarceration of an innocent man for twenty years. Also the continued freedom of a sexually motivated killer in two thousand fourteen idaho falls. Police got a subpoena to compare the dna from their murder to a public. Genealogy database owned by ancestry dot com and the results showed the dna had similarities with a man who lived in louisiana and the killer was likely to be related to him. Why kind of had to be. You couldn't just likely be related. They share enough. Dna to know that they are related but perhaps distantly right. Police traveled to louisiana and met this man. Michael p use senior and his son. Michael yussri junior became a person of interest to the police he had actually visited. Idaho falls once at the time of angie's killing and they found out that he's a film maker and he made this really dark film about a woman's brutal murder called murderer delia. So police got a warrant to collect his dna and they found out it didn't match. Oh yes so. The case went cold again so even though they were certain that the killer had to be related to these guys the histories. Yeah someone distantly related. It wasn't them not so in. Two thousand seventeen kristaps case was appealed and the rape charges reversed and his sentence was reduced from thirty to twenty years so his released. He's out but his conviction still stood. Yeah which was willing to do that because getting out of prison is a big deal but still there for twenty years. Yeah but still. I mean he should be exonerated. It wasn't the full monty. It was good though in twenty eighteen. The idaho falls police department. Contacted parabak nanno. Labs and genealogist. Cc more to assist them by searching jed match a public repository for autism Dna and results showed that angie's killer was a grandson or great grandson of a couple named clarence. Ussery and cleo landreau so cc. More was able to identify six known male descendants of the couple and they found that one of the suspects had been living in idaho and nineteen ninety six but again his dna did not match so this is getting frustrating in twenty nineteen more found a seventh suspect who did descend from the same couple. But he had been living under his stepfather's last name he had been living in. Idaho falls in nineteen ninety six. And in two thousand. Nineteen he lived in caldwell idaho so detectives found this guy. His name is. Brian lead drips. He threw a cigarette butt out of his pickup truck and a detective was able to recover it really quickly. It was still burning and testing of a dna sample from the cigarette butt. Showed a complete match. Drips had lived right across the street from angie and nineteen ninety six and he was the one who left. Dna in her body. He did know. Angie as an acquaintance but they weren't friends. Yeah he was a thirty year old male time of the murder and an inexperienced idaho falls police officer had briefly questioned drifts in the nineteen ninety six while he was out canvassing. The neighborhood but drips denied knowing anything about the crime and he was never brought in for interrogation and then he left town. Yeah just seven weeks later. So wouldn't you think if there's a guy living across the street from her. Haiti leaves town less than two months after the murder. You might wanna follow up with him you may. They might not have nonni left. They hadn't shown any inclination to question him anymore. You're right so how. How would they be keeping much in the way of our watch on him or other people. Yeah but he really bet the profile while they didn't know it at the time. Yeah it slipped through the cracks. I guess you're but after they got the dna and he was finally brought into the police station in two thousand nineteen. He confessed to the crime. He said he had planned on. Just raping angie up killing her. So drips will go to trial on charges of first degree murder and rape in june of twenty twenty one prosecutors have filed a notice stating that they intend to seek the death penalty. His attorneys have requested that the court suppress his confession. So we'll see how that goes and why are they. Wanting suppressed was not a valid confession. He hadn't been read his miranda rights or something probably but i mean the dna matches so good luck with that. It's not gonna make any difference. I don't think so. In july of last year. Chris taps murder conviction was finally vacated. His far as the court is concerned. You are cleared of the charges. You have been living under for the past. Twenty plus years judge alan stevens stated in his decision. It was believed to be the first time that genetic genealogy has been used to exonerated defend it so significant. Yeah afterwards tap said. I'm so thankful that had been given a second chance at life. I've wasted twenty years of my life or something. I never did but i also grew up a lot over these twenty years but boy i hope he's getting therapy. Area has had therapy. Because i don't know how you deal with that or on either and those are his prime years right from twenty to forty basically. You're taken from him. Plus you have to think. A lot of people thought he was guilty which has to be difficult. His mom did stand by him but a lot of people thought he was a killer yard. He must have thought he had fallen into the rabbit hole or something because it's not his dna at the scene but he's convicted. Well that's just like that. Interview did with jeffrey desk. You're there was dna in that girl's vaginal cavity and they just said while she had sex with someone else and then he came and killed her. Which is such a stretch or thanks. Oh but i mean also. They were both young guys. You're easy to manipulate very so. This district attorney who two years previously had said. Chris was complicit. In dodge's death did join in the motion to vacate the murder conviction. Then in december of two thousand nineteen. Chris tat filed a state court suit seeking damages from the city of idaho. Falls well yeah and he should have enough money to be comfortable the rest of his life. He deserves that after losing this huge chunk of his life. Yeah i was thinking that. That probably won't ever go to court. Reliable well yeah. I think they pretty much have to. It's just such a clear case. I don't see how they're gonna expect to win. Anything of the go to court right right. So it's just fascinating. So the sources we used for this case include a investigative case review by judges for justice from two thousand fourteen also we referred to the national registry of exonerations a special or limited series called wrong man on stars in season one episodes five and six focus on this case. Dateline had more than one episode on this case. And i have to tell you keith was involved in some of that saw. You might wanna check on that. Tccb's music written and produced by tristen. Capelle if you enjoy our shows would you please consider leaving us a review on itunes or wherever you listen a lot of you have already done it and we really appreciate it. So we're gonna get into some feedback before doing that. Let me just mention our t. c. b. store today. Thanksgiving's over looming on the horizon are hanukkah kwanzaa. Christmas pure looking for a gift or stocking. Stuffer check out our tb store key shirts. Both long sleeved. Short sleeved hoodies. 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My son and i were actually part of a search party and the children have never been found. And there's a lot of twists and turns and It's not yet settled. So i can understand if you wouldn't want to take this because it's still a lot of things up in the air If you do decide to broadcast that one. I would like to suggest the war daca brewing company. Which is really close to my home. And keeping jill in mind i would say go for the little damn honey wheat i. It is made with honey from the b's actually at the farm. It's very smooth. And i think you might both enjoy it for another one. That does have a very clear ending. But it was a long drawn out Would be one from australia. And that is ivan. Melot m. i. l. a. t. and it is the anglo state forest murders and for an australian beer. I would suggest little creatures pale ale. So i know you don't like a lot of compliments but i do very much. Enjoy the podcast. I enjoy your banter. And i love when you all agree to disagree. So thanks for a great podcast. I will keep listening. And hopefully maybe you will broadcast either one or both of these episodes. Thanks so much. thank suzy. I actually do like compliments. I just don't like to play them for people because they think other people might say oh brother right. Let's have little shy about it. Yeah i'm thinking she isn't just a always praise and jill. Nothing about me so anyway. Okay kidding okay. So we got to case suggestions. The hogle children. I've never heard of it. Will the interesting thing about this is the the the mother. Catherine was charged with murder. But she's been judged mentally incompetent because she's been diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. And they've been arguing for some time about whether her prognosis for recovery is present or not because if they can get her to the point where they say she is recovered. Then they charge her with murder Okay but the latest thing i read is that her psychiatrists say Not gonna happen. She's just doesn't have a very good prognosis. Is just tragic to little kids like that. Yeah it is. But i don't think you're gonna get closure in the sense that the person who's likely killed them is not gonna ever go to trial right while the whole thing's tragic when you're dealing with that kind of thing a two year old and a three year old and their mom. I mean really. We can't get much worse now. I've been a lot i have heard of. I think we've talked about this a little bit. Because i don't remember. He's known as the backpack murderer because he liked to prey on hitchhikers. He's responsible for murdering seven people that we know of. But i remember about this because of the what is it the balaj gio forest or whatever that rang a bell. But i think we've looked at this before anyway. We haven't done an episode so yeah. I think that one's we could totally do. I've been looking for some more australian once. 'cause we do enjoy those we get a lot of recommendations for them we do so thank you susie. Thank you very much. Susan will try that beer to absolutely so. We have an email with a case suggestion from summer summer rights. I'd like to suggest an episode on wendy andrea. No she poisoned her husband while he was dying of cancer when the poison didn't work she bludgeoned him with the leg of a chair and stabbed him. So this happened in arizona and was prosecuted by juan. Martinez she did receive the death penalty. There's a great episode of snapped about her. It's a really interesting case. And the defense. She put up at her. Trial was strange to say. The least i think you and your listeners would really enjoy this case especially since it involves one martinez and yes. She took the stand and was cross examined about her crazy story. I love your podcast. Thank you for taking the time to thoroughly research every episode so juan martinez he was the casey anthony prosecutor right. We saw him at crime cod. We did and also read his book. He's an interesting guy yes his none. She was convicted of murdering her terminally. Ill husband in two thousand. Her claim was that she was an abused spouse and she killed her husband and defense. This guy was on chemo. He had actually initially tried holistic therapy and his cancer for some reason or other didn't get any better run. Holistic therapy shocking. So he turned to chemo but he was pretty wasted and weakened. There's absolutely no way. He could be an abusive spouse. Says she just wasn't very patient not in a hurry. I guess so must have been money or something at the heart of it or just anger will watch the snap episode summer. His snapped is usually fun. Yes yes thank you. So much and next is a case suggestion from meghan. Your megan says. I don't drink. However i love this podcast. Well that's okay. you don't have to drink to love the pipe. We're not trying to push people to drink or you could be an alcoholic and love the podcast. Anybody she says. I know it's been done lots of times. But i'd be interested to hear your perspective in views on the west memphis. Three i thought she both covered the satanic panic thing well in dungeons and dragons murder and it really got me curious about what. Your thoughts are on west memphis three. I imagine you get loads of requests. But i just wanted to mention this at the very least. You're sending some positive feedback. Megan thank you. Meghan so yeah. Of course we're familiar with that case just about everybody is and it's one of those cases. I would like to cover at some point. But i always feel like if has that much coverage what are we really going to be able to add to it other than our opinions which if to take with a grain of salt or to or to grains sit too. Yeah yeah no that's correct. We have it on a little whiteboard over there. Is that on our list. It's been there for about two years. We have a long list though it fairness or suppose at some point we are going to do it because it was a fascinating case. Yes i think. It's the kind of case i'd like to do after having a week off so he can devote more time to it but then it really wouldn't be a week off. Would it would just be an extra week of resurgent extra week of research. Yeah which is okay but good recommendation. Megan i'm sure it's been recommended before. There have been probably a handful of cases. We've talked about that. Had something to do with the satanic panic in some cases there was a satanic aspect to it. But in most not really. You're just thinking when you're talking about one martinez are think he prosecuted the jodi arias case. Not i'll you're right not anthony. You are right yes. It was jodi because everybody was asking him all these questions. People are just fascinated by her year. Just so we don't get too many letters from people saying you stupid bastards. Don't you know. People are probably were pulling their hair out. Good thing you corrected it so they don't have to go to sleep being enraged right. Yeah the guy who prosecuted casey anthony. He was interesting too though. We did read a book by him. This was years ago because we covered this case. Probably in two thousand sixteen but yeah fascinating. We'll thank you everyone for your feedback and for taking time out of your lives to listen to us banter back and forth. We certainly appreciate it. We do we do and we will see you next time at the quiet end. take care. Bye bye birdie

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News on Dodge, Corvette, and Alex Zanardi

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59:09 min | 7 months ago

News on Dodge, Corvette, and Alex Zanardi

"Hey guys who've got an interesting car cast episode for you today. We're going to give some car news. What's going on with corvette and Alexis and some dodge products and. An update on the Great Alex Zanardi how he's doing after his accident, and before we get into it a word from our friends on Maguire's car waxes have come a long way. Last year Maguire's introduced their hybrid ceramic spray wax. It's advance s i. o to Hybrid Technology Delivers Ceramic Wax, protection and durability. There's no rubbing curing or buffing. It's great. It provides extreme water beating action this year. Maguire's launched their liquid version. It seals the. The paint for long-lasting protection against the elements. It's easy to use, and an applies like a traditional liquid wax, also hybrid ceramic spree detailers new product from them. This removes contaminants like dust, fingerprints, bird droppings, and helps boost the gloss and endurance and enhances protection. It's absolutely fantastic, super easy to use great in between the big waxing and detailing vehicle, the hybrid ceramic spray DIS yeller. It's ceramic made easy Bhai Maguire's. It's available pretty much everywhere. Welcome the car casts I'm math motivator deandre here with Bill Goldberg how you doing bill. AIMED DAMMIT, man! Beautiful in Texas. Great we've got. We've got some car news going on and then a virtual world that we live in these days. A. Car News Man. The Internet has been blowing up the slack. It really has. It's sort of been kind of like one little debut or update or something after another, and it's all done virtually now. which I it's, it's interesting. I, do like some of the live events, but this does make it. Doing virtually allows. US TO TO Basically go to several events at the same time because. There's less traveling stuff involved, but anyways some cool news. We're going to get into that before we get started a. It's it's time for dodge power dollars, and that means for each horse power. You get ten dollars off your purchase on. Dodge charger, Challenger or Durango, so come in for dodge power dollars today for a pretty sweet deal. All right so. First off, I'm just GONNA go ahead and teases. I know. All the stuff is coming out soon about Ford Bronco. I started watching the press conference for the Bronco. I had to come in here into the studio so I got a little cut off now the embargo is next week so Monday afternoon. The media will start hitting you with tons of information and I believe on Tuesday. Ford's partnership with NBC, it's like NBC Hulu and National Geographic and and. several of their networks will be debuting certain commercials for the car for the vehicle four door to door in the sport, and when I can tell you is, it's pretty cool I think you guys are going to like it. They put a lot a lot of thought into the design, the functionality and how you're going to use it. I think I think you guys are going to guys are going to dig it. Did we lose you? Bill back yeah I was just just. He's in the Bronco saying. Next week. You're going to get all this great information about it and you guys are GonNa. Love it and we will get into it next week as well. In the meantime. Lots of stuff, some Corvette News Lexus News Dodge News. Let's start off with A. Little Bit of news about. About. Alex Alex Zanardi we about Alexander Hardy former Formula One driver, you guys heard the story about him, and then we told you. I think last week that he was in a very bad. biking accident on his on his hand bike. I don't exactly know if you got hit by a trucker semi truck or because he's low to the ground and and A. But was was hit badly. I believe airlifted to the hospital. He's fifty three years old. Resilient, how tell you that he's resilient and. He's. He remains in a medically induced coma. Bud as he's in this coma. They're doing multiple surgeries I. Think they already did a five hour? Facial reconstructive surgery, and this isn't just a cosmetic thing. This is literally to to put him back together so. It's pretty severe for sure. They've had to. used. Computer graphics and CAD and stuff just to sort of design things on how they're even gonNA. Come up with the fix. For him which is, it's terrible and I'm unfortunately. I don't have a proper medical way of describing it I'm describing very mechanically like an automotive way. Because, that's pretty much all that I know but but we wish him the best it sounds like there is progress being made so. I can only really say that there's progress being made and that coma he's in is again medically induced. They're keeping them there to keep him stable as possible. But listen. Nobody's tougher than this guy. Nobody's tougher than scenario. Nobody's more resilience than Zanardi. You know. With with a little luck and hard work by by the medical team he's he's going to be back out there. He's just going to be back out there. and. You. Know I think I would wake up I'd be pissed. But. But, but he'd never has only one of the emotion right he's. He's always been so motivating for all of this stuff, and I know all of his teammates and colleagues and. Fans are pulling for him, so we want him to do the best I just want to give you guys a quick update on that because. It is. Terrible and it's like you know we we want to see. Of course we want to see these guys recover and and. And continue on the same about like with Schumacher as well like it's so frustrating. I'm sure for for for his family of course, and and for fans to to kind of like not really know what's going on, and you know who are we to say? It's not fair for us to know or not it. It's their business. It's their private business I just know that the curiosity and the desire to know what's going on has to do with a lot of love of A. Those guys. of saying hey, you know we're. We're big fans and we want you to do well. We want you to to get better. And so. Knowing a little bit like that's happening, so I I get it that everyone wants to be a little bit quiet on this and. But when they're ready. Hopefully Zanardi will will show more progress and they'll continue to give some updates. About. Anyway so car news. This is what we got going on in in the car, world is. Corvette C eight has been a D- delayed for quite some time. We spoke about this last week as well. They're still trying to fulfil orders for the for the twenty twenty one model for the twenty twenty model I guess. and. They talked about how. The first year was going to have that sixty thousand dollar price tag. The second year wasn't but now they're saying yeah, we're going to be able to carry that over because. Look some. Some people that ordered the twenty twenty. Won't actually get a twenty twenty. They're they're gonNA have to the definition of a first year. Annex it's now it'll. It'll come down to VIN numbers. And I don't know if if. If you're ordering it now or have placed an order because you want the car. Then don't worry about it. You're still going to get. You're still going to get the car and you're going to get whatever you thought. You were going to get the five hundred one or the six hundred one. You're probably still going to get that now. What may change is it may be a twenty twenty or a maybe a twenty one right, so if if your particular on the Vin number, and you wanted the twenty twenty specifically I. Don't know it has some sentimental value or matches your anniversary, date or or something like that. There are a lot of quirky reasons that people want what they want. To, make some phone calls. Might him focused GM dealers what they can do for you, but some people are going to get the twenty twenty one model. And of course. What we're seeing more and more in in the automotive world is. Not just. A face, lift or a new version of vehicle every whatever five years was the normal? Life cycle is we're seeing the evolution of the V of vehicles from year to year. They're making them a little bit better. Make could be a color change. It could be something like. It could be something as traumatic as the Toyota Supra the first year. Toyota super will last year. And then here we are in the second year into it, and it's getting like almost fifty horsepower bump so certainly everybody that ordered that toward a super one of the first one, and we're paying markups by the way. Sorry that you did that because the next one is significantly better and. And I'm sure if you trade it in you, you might not. You'RE NOT GONNA get that markup pack, but whatever it is what it is I'm not gonNA harp on that too much so. GM GM. GM is. Talking about some some revisions, some of the evolution to the C eight and mostly is gonNA come in the form of some new color changes. There's. They're going to do. They're kind of going with some heritage stuff, so they're going to have black with red stripes, black with yellow stripes, blue with orange stripes and white with blue stripes. Of course, the blue with orange stripes is that Gulf livery, so they're going to Gulf livery version of it. The everything looks good situations. Going to Piss off a lot of people I can get into. It well. One reason or another. GENEBML. Yeah just is what it is can't say she'd. And now we also know already. There's GONNA be some color changes not just additions. Those are additions to the lineup, but we already know that silver flare metallic will replace Blade Silver So on twenty twenty. If you did order twenty twenty and you are going to get it, and you're getting it and played silver. You're going to be one of the very few. So silver flare. Will Replace Blade Silver Red Mist, tint. Tint coat metallic, which is interesting. Red Tint coat metallic will substitute for Long Beach read. Just, because it's easier to say. And then. Basically any any real changes to the vehicle, is it. Nothing's really changing other than how they're going to be offering. Items with the packages, so the magnetic suspension will become a standalone option. Meaning buyers will be able to order it without selecting the Z fifty one performance package, so you can get magnetic. Ride on on whatever whatever version that you? And and of course, the base price for the coupe is going to remain at fifty, nine, nine, ninety, five and. Little. Clue Mandatory. Thousand Ninety five destination charge and the price for the convertible be sixty, seven, four, ninety, five, which which looks good. You know again. The coupe and my mind being a target as well seems like enough. But I don't want to take the top off. Yourself then you can get the convertible so. That's where we are. We're going to get some color changes. Some stripe changes some things like that, but most of the guys that are you know? Guys and Gals that are listening to this show you're gonNA. You'RE GONNA modify do whatever you want, you can go. You can get it wrapped. You can put stripes on. You can kind of do whatever you want. But just so you know I'm sure they'll have some success with the Gulf. Every here's. Here's a question about Gulf livery. Are, we are repeating that to death. Do. We need every Mustang Corvette Ford Gt everything and now you know. Trucks I know a lot of guys are hitting. Seem on like there's a bronco. There's an F. One fifty and it's all Gulf livery, and it's a cool livery. But do we need it on every replacement? Doing overplay to we need diminish the value of. Yeah, they diminish the value of it by putting it on. That that's my thing. Although, it's beautiful, but continuing to see the same thing. Over again as it may, as may be beautiful, as it is it gets to be redundant. Yeah, lucky, what's going to happen? You're right. It looks good. It looks cool. It looks cool on almost anything not everything but it. It's just a good scheme. But at some point. Do we start to look at it and go? I've seen it a lot like you know like the flat black rap like everything in La is wrapped in the satin black I'm like. I don't know like I'm kind of over it. Much You know It's a fad thing you know as you're talking to a guy with sixteen. Right yeah, listen someone who loves. The black vehicles When when do we have? We seen? Enough Range Rover or Mercedes. or X five is done and and satin black think. I, think we're. I mean yeah, I. I don't know I mean it's definitely not as a speaking from a guy who's got a number of black cars in a couple of this black. And Taken. Take I can't say. I was taken by that fad. I loved it all along. So whether people think it's redundant under not it's not GonNa Change my view of how I present my card, so it's an individual thing. Yes. You know after the day I. I get the ninety nine Ram back. It's been Rhino Blind. You know from top to bottom. It's flat black so. There you go right? To the road. Of the Reina lining. When you get that back by the way. I was just talking to pack. Do I got it yesterday did gotta yesterday. I on interesting. And a half years of not being here I was. Just got together with our Buddy Tyson Sullivan, and he had the guys that plan B building, the V, the crazy Humvee, and they've been driving it around and testing it and taking it off road in in Arizona, and that whole thing is the. BED liner material I. Don't know if it's LINEX. Ryan aligning whatever brand that is. And They did it and sort of like a dark gray with black trim to associate, not completely murdered out. Like black rail, tram black hardware. The hinges and stuff, but it was all done in kind of a gun metal grey. It looks fantastic. But he was saying his like there's something to say about. That thing is big, and we're gorgeous, hidden a few trails, and immediately just the brush on the sides you know out there is is all scraping the sides of this thing and you stop, and you see lines all over it, and then he's like, but you. Just you just hit it with a hose or even just rub with your finger and it's gone. It's like it's so much. And he's like you know. It's got a little extra to it, and it's got some ability to it because it's super easy to clean, and you just hit with the hose you. Sit or anything you don't Polish it you know. Of course you couldn't anyway. The Dow is a good call. Especially for that type of vehicle, it was just. Functionality for something like that that you can get away with you know. Outing the entire. and. We've seen a handful of the show. It seem as well and some are kind of silly, the bright red and stuff, and I guess it works, but but as for in a functional world that we're talking about. It absolutely did exactly what we're supposed to do it. It completely protected the vehicle, and it was super easy to basically just wipe off all the the lines and scratches and stuff, and it was it was it did what it was supposed to do. It was fantastic, so look I'm sure you're GONNA look forward to that on. On on your vehicle all right so changing the pace a little bit. I WanNa talk about some updates to the Lexus LS. I'M GONNA put this out there. Some of you guys will be interested. Somebody guys won't but the LX. LS Is the flagship sedan for for laxest. This is meant to compete with the big s class and the seven series BMW's We've driven a handful of of Lexus. Vehicles! And the L. S. The new LS is certainly gorgeous inside by the way they put a lot of style onto the inside. Just, how the would flows on the door and comes into the Dash, and it has a little bit of. Sort of wood with aluminum trim. I think inserts in. It was just really done well. and. It's it's A. It's an important flagship car for that brand and a lot of design elements. Come from the halo performance cars like LFA and the flagship cars like this. Right. So they've done a few things to IT A. FEW UPDATES have happened. For the most part. There's been a few design changes a little bit of nipping and talking on the on the lights, and the Front Grille, and brought in the rear bumper, a little bit, and lowered it to give it a little bit sleeker look. So. There's a few a few changes in that to fresh up. They. Have made the suspension more comfortable. And they made the Interior Quieter, which is interesting, because I already thought it was a pretty quiet car already, but again they're going for the luxury full-sized Sedan. And that fits the bill right and everything from motor mounts all the vibrations and everything that they. David dressed. They've wanted to make this thing as smooth as possible. And they're definitely get into into that. The one thing I'll mention about lexuses. I've always been a fan of. Lexus quality, and I know a lot of the car companies have. They have their. They have their regular brand and their luxury brand Honda Acura. Nissan Infiniti Toyota Lexus and you have to be very particular about when you're looking into that. What are the differences between those brands? Is it just? Just. Are, they just upping the quality of of materials at different types of leather or things like that and some companies like Toyota and Lexus. There's there's a measurable difference in the quality control from Lexus versus Toyota Toyota's good. But. That the testing done on a vehicle and the quality control task, saying done on the vehicle of a Toyota for leaves. The door is far different than the Lexus the Lexus Lexus. Absolutely go way beyond, and you know it's kind of interesting and you're like Oh. Hey, should I get the Toyota Rav four, which I got from my mom and their space, Lee, the Lexus version you like I don't know. Do I spend all that extra money on the Lexus version of it. You're like. If you're going to keep it for eight years. You know you might want to answer would be. Yes, you might want to consider doing that. Anyway so upgrades in the technology as well updated. They've got the twelve point three inch touchscreen. which is. What I like about what they're doing here is. The screen on the Dash was sort of sunken in, and you'd have to use this track pad thing to get it to work. But now. It's a touch screen. You can still use the track pad and this is what I like about. lexuses move, is you can? You can mess around with the infotainment system multiple ways right so. Like a lot of cars, services, steering wheel controls or the touchscreen now you can use to track pad. You can use a touch screen. You can use a steering wheel controls, and it's just kind of like what's in your head at the moment, or what is the most convenient, or or you don't want to take your eyes off the road, and you just WanNa. Hit one button or something. You'd be able to do that, I, think I don't know options. That's exactly what it is. Is. It's funny. How designers at one point sat there kind of started with? My drive the like. We don't want people to touch the screen. We're going to force them to use this wonky dial mob right so you don't have to look down, and then it goes by memory, but then they realized. We here, we are years and years later going. Okay. Why are we forcing people to do that? Why not just make it an option? You can do it this way, or you can do it that way and let people because how many sales gain and how many sales did you lose? By having like the I, drive or the track pad. It's funny because as. Cars are getting. So interesting and that we we are now bargaining. We are now buying cars are picking which car to get based off of some very which might have seemed like a minute feature. Like how does it look? And how does it handle an in of course price, but people will will buy car. I would do the same thing does it have car? Player does not have carplay. Does it have android auto? Really does that play into it. You know I mean these days. There's no question place. Much more into a den in past, but it's still not something. That's GonNa, make me. It's not GONNA change my mind or mega determination was the car I'm going to go for because of the convenience of options that it depends on how much you use those options I, would I would. I would argue differently. one example, is we. We drove recently the Aston. Martin DB S Super Lazaro. Love the car absolutely gorgeous, and of course you're buying that car because it's seven hundred car, not be because the ability to use I play or whatever yeah for for for carplay, but because of their partnership that we mentioned before with with am G.. Car Play in yet until the next version of am suffers out then they get the previous version. and. And it's it's. It's an interesting question because you don't by the Super League Gerald. For its technology, but when you're going to spend three hundred and fifty thousand dollars on a car. And, you know you'd like that that. In six months, the next version of the DDS will have carplay. Then I'm going to go. Well I'm going to get what I want because I don't want to have to buy that car and then live with it without all of the features that I wanted right so for some get going to make you, but it's GonNa. Make you switch manufacturers. Because that. Card. Have what you want well. I'll tell you this. G thinks yes. Is the answer because AMC's deal with? Aston Martin specifically was. Hey. Maybe you're GonNa Cross Shop Avi Advantage, or even a s or DB eleven with an am gee-gee t., so they're saying the Aston Martin gets the previous version of their software on the infotainment system, because they don't want that one feature, and it won't be just that feature, but they don't want at least that feature to be the decision maker between am G. GT and the Aston Martin it's interesting, and it was a part of a deal. It's funny. Because am G. became such a good partner for Aston Martin, that eventually acid Martin. CEO got fired if they took the boss from a. m. g. and they made them the new bosses, so not only did they take their software, those technologies either engines. They took their CEO as well so. Good for APPs Martin on doing that exactly so. Anyway, that's one of the new features of lexuses. Well. We like what they're doing. I think what we're talking about. Cars that start with an L.. Can we please talk about the zero, two, hundred, eighty, six and nine seconds, please. I'd Yes. You're going to tell us about that as soon as I tell you guys about Geico. Ads Electric which would be most fun right now. I would be talking about. Right now gyco is offering extra fifteen percent credit on car. Motorcycle RV policies. That's fifty percent fifteen percent on top of the money. GEICO already saves you. So, what are you waiting for? That's. What are you waiting for your? You're never gonNA save money like this anywhere else, so there's never been a better time to switch to GEICO and here's the deal you WanNa save the extra fifteen percents. You WANNA switch by October seventh. That's the deadline to do this visit. GEICO DOT COM to learn more. That's GEICO DOT, com all right. What what what are you got? What tell me about this hot car? I just I just saw I just saw them blip on the Lotus that we spoke to the designer. Remember the Russell. New supercar load is coming out with yeah zero. There looks like they're trying to destroy the the BUGATTI number They claim zero to one hundred eighty six thousand nine seconds. They're not worrying about the zero to sixty time. They're just worrying about getting the one eighty six quickly as possible. What's a phenomenal? That's a phenomenal number. Just think about that for a SEC. WH, why one eighty six is! What does it translate? What's I? Right it's gotta be something like that. Is that is? Hey Chris what's how many. How many kilometers per hour one hundred and eighty six miles per hour? I feel like this is a European thing. Right I gotTa! Call the math in my head, but is it is a two hundred. Is that why they're trying? To. Can't hear him talking to himself in the booth. One hundred eighty six miles an hour is it is three or two hundred ninety nine kilometers per hour. That doesn't sound right one eighty, one eighty six miles per hour to ninety nine kilometers per hour. No, is it? That's that's what this website is. Check. Check Google for the news for the approximate result in multiple multiply the speed by one point six. Okay all right. Yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah! Because we say zero to sixty two and they say it's one hundred so basically. They're trying to hit that three hundred kilometer mark. That's why they're rounding to one eighty six right because it was like. Why did he is a very obscure number right overdue that? Reason for yeah, so they wanna hit three hundred kilometers. which which makes sense interesting benchmark, but it's. It's funny how we also have this this race. To three hundred miles an hour. We have bugatti trying to get there. We have even Hennessy with their with their supercar trying to get there. We have Kona Zag trying to get there. Yeah, they're all trying to get to three hundred miles per hour. You know and I don't know. Where are we to fifty? Two to sixty. A it's. It's funny, because even if they could do it with the Horse Power and the aero-dynamics. How do you sell that car to somebody? Right like this is like somebody like Bugatti comes in and says oh well, you can only do it with the special key and a half do from start, and it has to be pointed in a straight line and. If you to know there's people that'll buy you know. There are yeah, but if you twist the steering wheel, a little bit to the left or right, it shuts down that the three hundred mile an hour, a goal or something like it just. Because all of that because you have to build in. Tens of thousands of dollars of safety equipment just A. Just an attempt to do a proof, you still can't you still can't. All you can do is try to make the government satisfied with with you're doing you know. Some of it's overkill some of it's not like who knows again like it's like building. Anything your garage it. Your building is like. You know you want to build this thing and you want to build a loft and and they say great building the loft as easy, and then you say, but I wanNA put a gym up there with thousands of pounds of weight, and they'll yeah, we we need. We need to rethink battle. Right like unfortunately your yeah, your. We've tackled this issue as well over here, but. Yes anyway speaking of that, we're going to get into an update on the garage. We saw some of the images you posted up on on instagram on your site and your patient Goldberg's garage and working with your team over at Metro on. WHO's. Basically designing and building, going to build this. The new Goldberg's garage. And Dodd the rendering. The rendering sir good, it's a great teaser. Thanks for posts in that looks fantastic and I know you said I'm learning. The plan was got the property there. You want to keep everything in house and. There's GonNa be. Also. There's a business to run. Basically out of this garage. There's filming. There's podcasting. They're working out. Which is part of your? Big. Part of your career like there's this isn't. As much fun as it is, it's not completely leisure. It's all work. All work, but it's all relative. Living it's it's my passion, my my enjoyment. my release Oh. Guess what also happens to be how I make a living so as as over the top is it? Is it all every square inch of, but it's going to provide a service whether it's you know storing all the things. That I've been able to acquire throughout the years that our business or the or the latest the way in the plans. Which is the sound studio so yeah? It's all toll purpose bill. I'm sure I don't know if it was your idea or your accountant. That said Hey. We're building the garage and this is what it's going to cost and I do a podcast every week. The accounts like you should put podcast. there. Turns it a little bit more to better right off. To to appease my accountant? Yes, it was my. I prep. Prior phone calls yeah. Crappy for but. It's a it's A. It's a great deal. It's exciting, but. It's also a task so. Just check the progress, and where where are you? Now? We saw we saw some of the initial rhetoric rings. I. Don't know if they're finally yet, but they. They look good. When do you? When do you start breaking ground or doing plumbing foundation or you know when you start doing that? When we need to speak with Bernie municipal, so we can get all the final permits. Check off, so one swans that happens, we will be breaking ground. Yeah, let that goes I'm curious to know if the permit process out there. Hand. Deliver all documents, believe me with the big bag of big box of cookies, and maybe an apple pie or something like that. Yeah, whatever I can. Imagine the process. There is much easier than the process here. All right so. One other piece we've. We weren't able to get into all the dodge news last week, because the the debut on dodge garage of. Of, their announcement was. was. was just starting as we were recording. This and we don't want to step on anybody's feet. We didn't want. You know. We wanted to abide by the rules with the embargo and all that stuff, so this is this is what we know. This is the news that you guys have seen. Three upgrades to to the vehicles, the dodge challenger, the charger and the Durango and typical dodge fashion. That some you guys like some you guys don't like, but. Dodges AMMO for a lot of things is hey. Take something that seems to be working pretty well and just throw more horsepower at it. To work, I know some of these vehicles, challenger, charger, or feeling a little long in the tooth, so they just keep throwing horsepower out of it and do more fast and furious movies, and they continue to sell, and it's paying off. In dividends for sure so this is what we've got the the Dodge Challenger. Twenty, twenty dodge, Challenger S Artiste superstock. I think this is a cool vehicle, but also this is good for you. Dodge Demon owners dodge, said we're. The demon was going to be a limited run. We're not gonNA. Screw you on this deal. And Demon owners will get the demon, and then that will be it now. Dodge still wants to do something drag race oriented with big power right they did they drag pack the thirteen twenties that we drove. Which which had some demon parts basically on it and the suspension. World, but you're not going to get that. Demon Hood patiently. You'RE NOT GONNA. Get that Vin number. The demon will be exclusive to those owner, so it still has some collectability so the prices we've been seeing of demon pop up at auctions and bear Jackson and in mecum whatever? I think those are still legit, right? I think those are fair. You know there was limited run, and if you want that vehicle, you pay whatever the market is demanding for that vehicle however. Dodge still wants to create something that's that's drag race friendly, so they came out with the dodge challenger, s artistes superstock? It's eight hundred seven horsepower. It comes with Niddle MTO five drag radials. It has basically I believe it has the the red eye hood on it. and. It'll. It'll perform for sure. I, I love I love these numbers for showroom stock car. Ten fifty, ten, five and the quarter mile at one hundred thirty one miles an hour. Fantastic. What what rocket I'd say rock, but it's it's just a beast. It's just a beast, would hopefully we'll be driving these at. You know next time we do the the head to head I think it. would be great to do I. I don't know how we we put that power to the ground. Maybe the drag radio, so help a little bit. I don't know you had trag radio so on one of your cars and. And Shit I got him on. Everyone in my car sued. On. I got on every car that I have and There's three cars, and I have have the NT. You know five five five GS, or whatever more the passenger tire, but yeah ninety percent of the vehicles I have. Radios on, and it's cool because they offer it's. It's still an exclusive. We mentioned that NATO and the dodge were offering the the tire to the demon owners with the demon and logo on it again. You know the the the tire that you got with the Demon I'm curious to see if there's a different tire for the superstar. Yeah, that's a good question. I, I'm going to say probably yes, I think the demon owners get some exclusives exclusively for some of the and I think that was kind of point and. Look afford four, did it with GT, three fifty. They promised there wasn't going to be a flat plane. Crank another one of their vehicles. That wasn't going to be in the crate engine, and they have a great the five to excess eliminator engine in the in the catalog. It has the intake you know well. It doesn't have to through fifty and take, but it has the heads has the block as the five point two liter, but the conventional crank the truth is you. Don't get the sound. Of the GT, three fifty do get more power. It's a five hundred eighty horsepower crate engine. All right next on the list twenty twenty one. Dodge Charger S RT hell cat redeye so lot late. God, How many years we've been doing this podcast and how many times I come on. GUYS GONNA. Do their I'd surgeon. So I wait I couldn't wait. That's why I was I'm buildin twin turbo. Why bought because you know it was? It took so long to make this announcement for the red eye. Fastest Production Sedan in the world is what they're claiming. Fastest production sedan in the world it's has the seven hundred and ninety seven horsepower. Engine and I'll throw some numbers how you? This is the big. This is the big four or by the way. Two or three eight, oh run mid tens in the quarter mile, it'll run mid three zero to sixty, and you're right two hundred and three mile an hour top speed. It doesn't seem namic, but it is, but I still say that it's the car. That is the car out of all of their lineups. That's that's that's that to me. That's the it's the coolest and don't think that everybody is not going to be begging for a superstock version of that in the coming months. It's a natural progression it is. Going to be tough on because they don't want to take away from from the challenger Superstock, although I don't know, they keep doing all these red eyes and stuff. Every all right, so it may throw occur Gerbo. Third in the lineup is the twenty twenty one dodge Durango s rt hell cat now. I am I'm a big fan of. The Track Hawk. I thought the jeep was bad ass, right? I thought it sounded great, and it's fast, and we've had this discussion before like when you get the one hundred thousand dollar jeep versus some other European hot, you know SUV and Maybe you want American maybe not, but also I my thing is is when you want to be able to modify it, you WanNa you WanNa put exhaust on. It even want to get a little tune in it and you want to Jack that thing. Thing up to eight quarter horse power. That's the one to do it. It's GONNA handle it. It's GonNa be beefy, and it's almost welcomed basically by the dodge brand at this point to go. Yeah, I'd be surprised if you did. Keep it stock, so we we? We do love that about them. So Dodge Durango RT HAL cat. This is a three row vehicle. This is larger than than the jeep and that's kind of the point here. Seven hundred ten horse power, six, hundred and forty five pound feet of Torque it'll run zero to sixty in three point five seconds, and then they went out, and they got an NIH are a certified quarter. Mile Time of eleven fifties, and you know with this big vehicle. I assumed that you toll your race car trailer with. Top speed of one hundred and eighty miles an hour. But also check this out. It's one point five seconds faster. THAN THE RT three ninety-two on their two point one mile road course, so it is a big beast right, but it is meant to. To make it fun around the track, not just a drag strip you. This'll be a big kind of fun corner carver if you will, even though it's three rows and its mass. But. We like we talked about. We live in a world now where we have. Six hundred plus seven hundred plus power SUV's massive breaks, and they perform at a level that you wouldn't expect an SUV to perform. I don't know where the pricing is going to come in yet on the on the Durango hell cat. But. It needs to fit somewhere between the jeep track hawk and this so this could end up being. The between the Track Hawk and the regular s rt so i. don't know this. Could have being sort of the big American. Mosley SUV. That that, you want. It's sort of fits. Fits the bill like look in. In the fort jobs all the boxes offer me. In the Ford World you've got an explorer S. T. four hundred horsepower drove it. I like it. It's cool, but it's just. It doesn't compete in this world. It's just not meant to, and he's just like they know. This is ridiculous SUV and that's kind of why. We gig a Lotta in love it. I actually can't wait to drive it. I'm actually a little more interested of the three vehicles. I really KINDA WANNA. Get into that Tarango and I've spoken to a number of people that said the same thing, yeah! I. Don't know it's just recently, I've driven a lot from the Lamborghini Urus to. The I went to the track as you guys don't went to willow springs in the the Alpha male Stelvio quattro folio. And next week I've got. The MASERATI. Lavonna Tae. I forgot the trim level, but I got the real hot version of the. Of the MASERATI SUV coming the fail the Levante. Fail now keep in mind that Alfa Romeo and Maserati are all part of the same family of that dodge. Fiat Chrysler. Family so. Well I'm expecting the Maserati to be very similar to the to the for Male, but I'll let you know, but again we. We live in this world of of. Of Super? Hot Suv so the Durango. GOPING bigger and three rows. Goes Zero to sixty as fast as that Alfa. Romeo does. I. Want Drive it. Exactly I match I. Definitely I definitely want to drive it. On that note, let me hit you guys and I'm expecting it to be drivable as the track on I think so I mean. There was a time where if you wanted? You wanted the real performance suspension. You know I'm not to drag race suspension. You wanted like a the best of both worlds on the road race suspension. It had to be very stiff and still you're still going to get that spring rates and things like that, but with with the adjustable suspension these days and magnified and and and. Way More Development, the damping of the. Shocks and air bags and things like that that we we can get it i. M Three two one m three even. Before, I put the coil overs on it hours I think actually a little bit smoother. It's kind of a rough writing carts small too short wheelbase. It's a little bumpy. I love it I'm fine with it like I I I feel like I'm more connected by. I Dunno driving it every day, and if you're going to work and pulling parking garages and speed bumps, and all the stuff, and you know the pompey four. Oh five freeway out here. It's just like it's cool, but it's not something. I'd WANNA drive every day. Honestly, I I'm driving the the the Volvo t six. The VISA DVD ninety wagon right now and the wagons fantastic you know. Great car and it looks cool. It's a bright blue. It's the are design package in it, so it's the black trim and all this stuff and it looks cool runs great, and it's comfortable and everything works in it. And it's not an SUV. It's basically the same thing as their SUV, but lower to the ground with a lower center of gravity and stuff so I've I've got good things to say about that thing. I'm not even a wagging high. But. You're driving and you're like certain. Or ask. You drive in your like. Get it. Anyway let me hit this. Dodge, for you guys again summertime is the best time to join the Brotherhood of muscle because dodge power dollars, means you get a guaranteed discount and the math is simple. You get ten dollars off based on the total horsepower of your new dodge vehicle so every twenty twenty challenger, every twenty twenty Durango every twenty twenty charger you get the most out of your horse power this summer with ten dollars off of each horse power that means you can go, and you can pick up one of the dodge charger s Rt. Scott packs that things got four hundred eighty five horsepower. You'll save four, thousand, eight, hundred and fifty bucks off the sticker of that, thank. And this summer's power dollars is back with the dodge to wrangle his well. We were talking about that I. Don't know how this applies I. Don't think it applies to the twenty one s rt helicopter yet, but hey listen op. Sure you go into your dodge dealer. Talk to him. There's with made somehow so no matter where the summer takes, you dodge to wrangle is here to make every trip this season a breeze get more power. Get more off it's. That's simple. Hurry into your local dodge dealer now to take advantage of dodge power dollars. I'm keeping the family and run down to your ram dealer in order the new Rx. That's coming out so I'm excited to see the trx immense. It's funny. You just mentioned crazy off road trucks and I am happy to say that there's been a little change of heart over at the blue. Who Guys and when they said no ranger raptor for the American market. Now they're saying yeah, I. Think, you're getting ranger raptor for the American market so possibly twenty twenty, one, a twenty two model, we will get a ranger raptor. It will, while we know it's going to have. The Great Fox suspension and all that stuff on it. I would imagine there's going to be a little bump in horse power I think. The ranger eight in the ranger. It's not going to be v Eight, but the two point seven liter ecoboost with the ten speed transmission. Right now. I think it'll get that engine. What do we have now? We have the two point three liter with two seventy horse I think you should see three twenty five horsepower I would expect the three twenty five horse power six cylinder. The two point seven liter ecoboost six right now. This is good this arrangement, but this is a good platform, right? It's. It's not much larger if you put the Va. then it's going to be heavier. It's going to be nose heavy. And we've already seen a lot of potential in tuning the two point seven liter engine. We're seeing I duNno know. Three sixty, maybe four hundred horsepower out of out of these things so. That's. You know and look anybody who wants a range rafter is not going to be shy about going. Hey, man, I want to turn up the boost a little bit, and or or get get get a handheld tuner in there or maybe run the ninety three octane. Whatever, so you're going to have some options with it as well. So I don't it's cool. I kind of liked the idea. We had. talked to a buddy. That was able to go to I think it was an Australia and test to some. Do some driving in one of the ranger rappers that was out there and. and. This isn't the slow rock crawler. This isn't meant to be you know the jeep or Bronco kind of thing. This was meant to be sort of the high-speed in pre runner. Type of vehicle and I saw some of the footage that they had of it, and this is just flying out there. It looked fun. It looked kind of bad ass and find and obviously smaller than than. Than the the F one fifty raptor, but but it's great news. Great News before it really look. At it look fine and again when I say smaller. The, ranger is about the size of my Fort Lightning. Basically you know you know my f one fifty from five years ago is the size of a mini truck today. Right and I know that will call mini trucks, but I love it so much. Anyway. We're going to wrap things up. We're GONNA do the next show. You guys saw a post that I did recently. Just give you a quick little update on the lightning. Working on steering suffer not custom steering box made. We're swapping out the flaming river one. We talked about. We're going to go from the twelve to one ratio to the fourteen one. We're going to see how that goes. Getting the rear differential belt and the rear differential with the mark. William Axles that I told you guys about. Again getting into this was because I want to solve this issue with the vehicle speed sensor, and that toning that's in there and make the ABS breaks where can make the shifting go smoothly, speedometer, work and. They put the the the rear differential cover on there and it's got. You've seen it in the are anybody with the eight eight four axle has seen. The aluminum covers. That are on there. and. It's got a have these these two bolts. that. that you you both on the cover, and then these two bolts go in, and they hold the main caps for for the. On the inside for the differential for the axles, they they put a little bit attention to kind, brace them, and hold them on I don't know how necessary they are or not, and you're only supposed to snug them down. A little bit five foot pounds. Is. All just five is all you do when you talk down. And You know we've got a cover on there that I picked up somewhere. It seemed fine seem well-built electric capacity some cooling fins. and. It's only been on there few times. It's been on and off a few times by. I think somewhere in the process. It got snug down a little too tight. And one of the bolts broke. We got a replacement bolt on the way. But I did talk to. Talk our buddy Jay over at banks at gale banks, engineering and banks has been doing tons of research on differential. covers. How where the fluid goes in it, and the cooling of the fins, and what works and what doesn't work and they've done. All these three D. printed versions, and they made clear versions at a three d like printed plastic, so they can see how the fluid goes around, and where the temperatures are they putting gauges temperature gauges. Nobody's done more testing into a stupid rear. Cover than these guys so. They told me they are developing a Ford eight eight. Rear differential cover. It's not available yet. When they get, it will be the first ones to have it. I'll swap that on here. Maybe having conversation with them and it seems like a small thing. And, they they they just identified a void in the market. They just looked at everything in the truck world because they're big in the truck world then they'll. Why is every truck on the road? That has any ma on. It has some differential cover some somebody's company. Some grants chrome some not, and they said well. If, everybody's doing that then they're buying it and that's a good business model, but also can we make it better, and so they? They've been digging into it and you got a hard. You GotTa Watch. Some gale banks videos on how he just he can talk an hour just differential covers now he's such a nerd and we love him for it, but. We'll get into that as well but hopefully. Maybe by time we do the show next week might have that truck back in some updates on the steering and. Also update on the chargers. The the roll Bar roll bars done and most importantly to shoot handle husband install so. Fantastic. Go over to gearhead and at my side to check out some dates but gear. Guys are going nuts. They just fabricated accustomed front strip power bays. offer those you talk. You talk about the inferior products out on the market needing. Needing a good bad ass when it's as new option, your head's going to offer those now. So. Good to see that I. Yeah. I saw that I saw that picture and I liked it. It's got to be on one of your on your vehicle over there. Charge there you go. ALL RIGHT GUYS! Thanks so much. We're going to wrap it up next week. Bronco talk for sure lots of cool stuff. I'm sure by time you listen the episode. You're going to be all over the news, but tune in next Wednesday and we're GONNA. Get all into that two or four door broncos sport. I can tell you that. I, I saw some of the stuff. That's coming out. It's very cool, very smart and very customizable. Not The key thing is you will be able to do. Almost endless things to your heart's desire with this vehicle you WANNA. Buy Right off the showroom and just driving around La fine, but if you want to do anything to it, I've never seen a vehicle. With ears the keep. The best analogy now is what kids do tennis shoes. You could buy a bass tennis. You even have a customized. From what I'm hearing. That's what they're doing with the city and I think it's less than if they can make the thing out of Legos. It would be possible they would do it because this thing is so it it is. It's. It's good. It's significant I think you guys will like it. There's no reason not to because you can do anything you want with it so I'll just leave it at that, so we'll get into it next next week and then when we'll talk about all right guys, thank you for me until next time. Keep the air in the spare in the back of the week. For the latest updates and Colin Times follow the show on facebook, twitter and instagram at car cast show. If you'd like to ride in fill out the form on comcast, show DOT COM and don't forget to give us a nice rating on itunes car cast is a Corolla digital production, and is produced by Chris Mok Simona for more information visit car cast show dot com. ALL RIGHT GUYS! Thanks so much. Thanks for listening to two car cast. We appreciate that and we appreciate all you guys all the things you say and falling on Social Media and Man We love it. Thank you guys just reminder from our friends at Geiko Geico right now is offering fifteen percent credit on car, motorcycle and RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money. GYCO already could be saving you. So, what are you waiting for your dog to make breakfast in bed? Well, that's never gonNA happen, so but saving money can. There's never been a better time now to switch. The GEICO save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh visit GEICO DOT COM to learn more.

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Station Wagons (MM #3588)

The Mason Minute

01:00 min | Last week

Station Wagons (MM #3588)

"The minute with kevin mason. I love cars spend a lot of time online reading about automobiles. They used to love to road and track in the car and driver magazines and read about all the upcoming cars and all the fancy cars and cars. Only wish i could own and recently as you've noticed we're doing away with regular four door cars pixel manufacturers like ford. Won't even be making them anymore. They're going more to just we'll trucks and suv's and some bringing back station wagons. I realized we haven't had a true station wagon because the minivan and the suv kind of taken. That space in the car needs world over the last couple of decades. Of course dodge had their magnum station wagon. I think from like oh five to eight and for some reason i've always wanted a station wagon. My parents had one when i was growing up. I love the size. And i love having the cargo space in the back but that back seat down and you can carry a lot of stuff so maybe a station wagons in my future. Don't know if it's going to happen or not. But i keep reading about the rumors. It's true more and more companies thinking about bringing back the station wagon. I'd love to see that in all honesty.

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Episode #40: Hi-Performance Heritage - The Legend of Mr. Norm and Grand Spaulding Dodge

Talking Mopars

29:09 min | 7 months ago

Episode #40: Hi-Performance Heritage - The Legend of Mr. Norm and Grand Spaulding Dodge

"Locum episode number forty, if talking MO- pars in another installment of high performance heritage today we shine the spotlight on one of the most legendary figures in the world of Mo-, par with talking about the legend of Mr Norm and grand spaulding dodge. We're also talking about some possibilities for the bill. MOPE project and we have a listener suggested high-performance parts segment. I'm also still organizing some of our. Our remaining listener stories, so those are GonNa Return. Next week folks, the new talking Mo- parts studio is finally completely fired up and ready to go so without further ado. If you are a moped are in the right place. Don't go anywhere. You're tuned into the Best Mo- parties driven podcast on planet. Earth and I'm your host Chris Albrecht, better known as the MO- partner in this is. Ours! You're listening to talking. With the multi-car Hunter, your direct match into all things Mo- park. What's happening friends? What a week! The fact that the superstock challenger Cat Durango and the new charter Red Eye wide-body have been announced. Tell us what we already know that. This is a great time to be a MOPE. Aren't easiest. I'm extremely excited. SUPERSTOCK MO- part legend has been revived and this time around. It's for the streets. I'm a big fan of the hearst superstock. Hemi bodies of sixty eight and this new challenger Superstock is exactly what I didn't realize I wanted to see return so bad. What a fun surprise and man! Did you guys see the teaser? Pick jeep this week on facebook. A three ninety two wrangler or gladiators seems to have been teased and that's something that really got my attention. You know what a crazy mope! Our world we are living in, but I'll tell you. What if you missed the original muscle car air like I did then we can all rejoice, because this is without a doubt, the second coming of factory high-performance machines that we can call muscle cars and I. don't see things slowing down anytime soon, but what we all know is that all good things must come to an end, so my suggestion to all of you listening is so it up and enjoy every minute that we have with these absolutely outlandish, massively overpowered and respected mopeds. And in other news, Chrysler's at Carlisle is over safely and on one hand I'm happy that it happened in the first place and. You know on the other I'm bummed out that I couldn't attend I. Hope that Those of you, that did make it to Carlisle. This year had a blast. And you know what I wanna hear all about it, so do me a favor. Send me an email Chris at talking Mo-, Parts Dot com, or leave me a voicemail message at two zero, nine twenty eight Mo par and tell me about your experience. What was your favorite car? This show you know? What was your favorite exhibit? And if any of you do that, we'll share it on next week's episode, but that's next week today. We are right here right now. So why don't we quit spinning these tires and let's get this show on the road. Brands per project car of the week this week. I wanted to talk about the most important project car. Build happening right now besides the one in your garage. That is the build Mo- Park Wa operative Bill Project now you may be asking. Press, what's billed Mo- par well? In case you missed episode thirty nine. That was last week. Show for those of you in the slow lane. Let me get you up to speed. Last week. We had talking Mo- pars alumni, and my friend chuck, mcmurray from HEMI PAGES DOT com back on the show. In this time he fills us in on his latest venture. The build moping doc project. I'll give you a brief rundown, but it was an awesome episode and I suggest you check it out for the. The full meal deal, so the build mopeds project is the first build of its kind leaving the fate of the build in the hands of the moped community. That's us. That's you. That's me. That's everybody in the moped community that means that we can all scare this project in whatever direction we want based on our votes were different aspects of this project in each of the different rounds of voting, so those rounds are series of votes in the first round of voting is going to be four what? What car will be built and following this will be other decisions made by us such as color engine power. Adar's suspension wheels, tires and more. This is an entire car build based on our votes as a community. How cool is that? The first round of voting is underway in closes on the seventeenth. So get your votes in right now. Stop what you're doing. Go to build more dot Com and cast your vote, but I suppose you need to know what the choices are, so let's check this out. Out The. General concept behind this build and to keep it relatively focused on a specific end goal is pretty simple. Vintage superstock Ermo par with a modern Mo- par Hemi for the engine. The end result is going to be a car that the Hemi pages team is going to send down the quarter mile at the modern street Hemi. Shoot out in twenty twenty one and we're all GONNA get a chance to see the results of our votes. The car that is built based on our decisions and You. Know what we want to see. We're going to be able to see. You know the car in action, which is really cool, and if you make it to a couple, certain events in two thousand twenty one. You get to see the car in person. How awesome is that? So with the first round of voting underway? We are voting on the car. That's going to be built and we have four vintage superstock Ermo parts to choose from, and they are a nine, hundred and sixty dodge three thirty, a nineteen, sixty seven dodge coronet, a sixty eight dodge dart and the Sole Plymouth of the group, a sixty eight Barracuda. These are all great platforms to build and his right now it seems like the darts in the lead, but. You don't get it twisted. Any of these cars would be an amazing choice, but while back, and maybe I've mentioned this a couple times, but I've said that I have a desire to see superstock dart tribute, of course with the modern Hammy just to see how the vintage set up would perform with a modern Hemi powering it so. Needless to say I'm really pumped about this project and the way the votes are stacking up so far. If things keep going the way they're going I'm GonNa, see you know what I wanted to see. And that's the sixty eight superstock dart with a modern Hemi. That is you know I'm beyond words with how cool that would be. You know especially since I don't have to spend the money you know that's part of the cool part about this project. Is You know if there's ever? Ever a superstock Ermo part that you wanted to put a modern Hemi in by. You don't have the money to do it. This is perfect, because hopefully the bill goes as you would want your bill to go. That's what I'm hoping for, but there's more to this project than just the car in the engine, you know we still have to think about suspension wheels and tires, and whether this car will have some sort of power, adder or not, and you know, let's get into that. At first? I thought I'd like to see a hell. Great engine in a Superstock, dark tribute car, but the more I think about it. The more I WANNA see the capabilities of a six point four. It's not that I. Don't like the five point seven. Hemi, either I just you know I have one after all, but I think the middle of the road engine choice in the six four would be the most interesting build of course. I'm curious to see how a six point four can handle a power outer, but a witch power outer. Would I want to choose you? Know could go nitrous Ugo. Super Charger, Pro Charter, twin, turbos or big single turbo, but this is where I can't decide. I'm not sure which direction I'd go. This was my project, and I'm not really sure which direction I want. Vote so I still have a lot of research to do but. I'm going to have to keep thinking it over, but the idea of a boosted six point four intrigues me a lot, but let's play devil's advocate here and you know, ask the question. What are the limits of naturally aspirated six point four Hemi? That might actually be pretty interesting to. And as far as suspension goes I'm truly interested in how a car bill to original superstock specs with the exception of the engine would work you know. How would it all come together? And would the combo actually work perfectly, or will all hell break loose I'm not sure what to expect, but I'm anxious to find out I'll tell you that much, and when it comes to the wheels and tires being the nut that I am I love to see some big a little crackers on it, you know. Little in the front or skinny skinny in the fronton battles in the rear. That's what I WANNA see. I'm a nut Gregor's I love him I. Know a lot of people I posted on social media over the weekend that a lot of people think they're played out, but to me Braggers, a symbolize muscle cars. You know it's like the wheel of muscle cars, ise, muscle car wheels, most people you know that no muscle cars will think of you know a cracker. Everybody's got an in. My opinion is when I see. Crackers I think muscle, but that's me. So, basically, you know back to the car. I, think that Imagine Dick Landy start only with a modern Hemi. That's what I hope will be the outcome for this car. You know, save for the Dick Landy Graphics, but let me just say that my second choice would be a sixty eight Barracuda. I've always wanted a sixty seven to sixty nine Barracuda and a few of slip through my fingers in the past so I would love to. To see one of those, get built, but you know I have my heart set on the dark and just sitting here, thinking about it seeing if you could crack often nine flat and a quarter mile, an all motor naturally aspirated fully built six point, four based Hemi is very intriguing to me. You know anyone can put down four digit horsepower with a power outage, a turbo or pro charger. Super Charger nitrous, but what exactly the limits? When you start with a six point four is your base, and then go nuts and naturally aspirated trim, you know. Where is the limit with the six point four? But I WANNA find out. You know. Could you imagine turning nine flatten a quarter mile in all motor six point four based Hemi car a dark. Khuda or No Cornet or a dodge three thirty. That would be awesome, and it would be a very interesting question. Answer now, so that said I'm not opposed to throwing. Some boost added either. Because who doesn't like four digit boosted horsepower. You know what I love hearing the wine or super. Charger, Turbo screaming I think it's really cool, and you know while the options do have their limits in this bill because there are a set of choices that you have to make, it's multiple choice, but. You know yet to pick one. You know it's not just pick any car from you know our history. It's you know you have a set field of choices and. You know they're just a ton of intriguing possibilities in this built, but whatever the case may be, this is going to be an epic build, and I'm hoping the first of many like it i. hope this happens again and again because it's just going to be fun. Throwing all of our opinions and hat and seen what comes out, you know you have until the seventeenth caster votes on what car will be the one to get built so I. Encourage you to head on over to build Mo-, Par Dot Com and show your support for this awesome project organized by Hemi, pages dot com. Your vote counts. That was project the week. No Mo part left behind. Don't worry. We're GONNA. Get back to real project car of the week next week, but I really wanted to emphasize that the build. Build moped dotcom project is awesome and you need to participate. If you're listening to this show right now. You absolutely have to participate in this project I told chuck that I was going to do as much as I could to get as many votes as I could in there, and I know that there's hundreds possibly even thousands of people listening to this right now, so you need to go to build moped dot, com and caster vote. You have until the seventeenth like I, said so again. No Mo bar left behind. Okay, folks, no listener, story today per. Se, but I am going to play a message from a CO worker of mine, who, at one point used to be the proud owner of a dodge demon with the tried and true leaning Tower of power, the indestructible slant six, and he also so happens to be a listener of this show. His name is Mike Fuji and he prompted this week's high-performance part. Take it away Mike. Chris my food. You better call me last week. Parts. Check out the movie. PHANTASM. I don't know if you already put this on there, not have enlisted all your emphasis, but they feature nineteen seventy-one Ku`Damm there I'm pretty sure three three I could be wrong. But Check it out, man. It's a bad ass car. It's got the pistol grip to. Anyway check out the movies actually pretty good. All, right first of all thanks for calling in and participating in the show Phantasm Gouda has really been back on the forefront of cool movie Mo- pars, since being featured so prominently graveyard cars and having a car built attribute to it. Listen Buddy. The car is awesome. It is bad ass seventy-one. Khuda black custom fender flares. Gregor's. I mean what's not to like. And how can you possibly go wrong? You know what I mean, the only thing I could say bad about the cars that it was actually a three forty small block car up badged as a four forty six zero car It was also originally FC. FC Seven, which is also known in the dodge world as plum crazy in Plymouth, world has inviolate, so it was a purple car from the factory, and it was painted black, and had custom grain, blue pinstripes, and of course no icon. IKUTA would be complete without a hearst for speed pistol, grip shifter, and the car even had an aftermarket sunroof installed to add to that you know custom seventies theme, but all truly Khuda with the right customer touches done to achieve the desired effect, which was simply a bad astronaut machine. Thanks again Mike for the message and Hey, I'll see you work buddy. That was high-performance parts. When it comes to the high performance heritage of mope bars, there are quite a few names that every moped should know. These people played such an important role in mope. Our history that it's super important that we honor them for the positive impact. They had on the Mo- park culture that we all know and love and that some of us even live by. The man I'd like to honor on this episode of high-performance heritage is a Mo- part legend, someone who really needs no introduction and someone who is most definitely on my Mount Rushmore. That man is norm, krause, but most know him as Mr Norm. He is known the MOPE Our world over for its famous dealership on the corner of grand spaulding in Chicago Illinois Ladies and Gentlemen. This is the legend of Mr, norm and grand spaulding dodge. The legend of Mr Norm starts in Chicago in the year nineteen, forty, eight long before norm, krause was known as Mr Norm a then sixteen year old norm, krause along with his brother. Lens started selling used cars at their father. Hearts gas station, which is located on the corner of grand spaulding. Their business had grown by nineteen fifty one day had purchased the property. Next Door Grand Avenue the uses a car lot and the gas station was used to service. The car's five years had passed in the nineteen fifty six brothers noticed a huge interest in performance cars after they had placed an ad in the newspaper for a Chevy convertible equipped with the Va.. Transmission the large amount of interest that the ad had generated indicated to the brothers that there was a ton of potential in the sales of performance cars without revelation they decided to go all in on the performance car market and focus their energy on marketing their car lot as a high-performance dealership, they bought up all the performance cars. They could get their hands on and began building a reputation among hot-rodders. The name Mr Norm actually originated from the original newspaper advertisements that the brothers ran because they wanted to save a little coin by using less letters in their because of limited ad space, and thus the name stuck and the legend of Mr Norm was. Sometimes, a marketing campaign just works, and that's exactly what happened with Mr Norms. Word around Chicago quickly spread that Mr Norm was the guy you wanted to see. If you're looking for a high performance car as their reputation in sales, numbers grew in the next few years, the opportunity to become a new dodge dealership presented itself to the brothers. It wasn't until nineteen sixty two that the brothers pulled the trigger and became the newest dodge dealer round specializing in high performance cars aimed at youth performance enthusiast, the main selling point becoming dodge dealer after. After several opportunities were presented to the brothers, was the introduction of the Max Wedge Engine, which we're going to cover in a future episode, so look forward to that in October of nineteen sixty two MR norms grant spaulding dodge was born nineteen, sixty three and new showroom room service department had been constructed and Mr Norm Sport Club was introduced each new high-performance car that was sold a grand spaulding dodge was tuned up for performance. They received a rejection of the car and a re curve distributor with lightweight springs with the timing advance at Amir. IPM. Sim Performance. The cars were then Dino tuned simulating track conditions to maximize performance, even further on of the first Domino's to be installed in the dealership serves department. These cars were absolutely ready to run and purchasing one gave you exclusive membership to Mr. Club being a member guy you the ever famous Mr Norms Dino tune t cal's a grand spaulding emblem on the trump of the license plate frame to let the competition know exactly where they stood after you left them in the dust, you also got to look forward to monthly member newsletters that kept you up to speed on all of the latest grant spalding, and even included a subscription to drag nuisance chances were you were interested in drag racing? If you purchased a car for Mr, norm sales doubled in nineteen, sixty, four in that doubling trend would. Would continue for another seven years, the first grants bowling race team was created also, and they were running a Max Wedge and Hemi car. The volume coming in and out of Mr Norms, even required them to double the size of the service department. Not a bad problem to have this year would also mark the start of radio ads, which would be heard not only in Chicago, but all around the country, nineteen sixty five would be another monumental year for Mr norms because it would be the year that Mr. Norm would join forces with Gary Dire and. And begin match racing, and what would become the fastest funny car in the country by clocking eight sixty, three at Lyons dragway, the car was a supercharged Hemi with an altered wheelbase. That car would end up joining several other legends and paving the way for funny car classes, integrating nineteen sixty six would mark the year that Mr Nour's would become the largest high-performance dodge dealer in the country and parts and service department that were also considered to be the largest in the country. They even had to install a second dino just to keep up with the. The Madness in nineteen, sixty seven grand spalding would receive an expansion and Mr Norm would make a big move by shoehorning three eighty three big block into a dodge dart after dodge said that it couldn't be done. I didn't episode featuring the story behind. Mr Norms big block dark, so please refer back to episode two for that the first four forty power Dr would also become reality under the name Jesus s which stood grant spalding sport in nineteen, sixty eight, which would lead to the development of Factory Code Bodies Grant Spalding would also expand your. Nineteen sixty nine saw big win with the grand spaulding Dodge superchargers claiming the Coca Cola Cavalcade of Stars Championship and the continued success of Mr Norms would result in another expansion in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, nine, hundred, seventy, one would be the next year for Mr Norm GS s car which would come in the form of three forty six pack dodge demon, which would lead into more craziness in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two with Mr Norm supercharge three forty demon GS S. Another expansion came in nineteen, seventy, two and grand spaulding became third-place sales volume in the country, only bested by the following year nineteen seventy-three where they moved to the second place position. As, the muscle car era started a slowdown Mr Norm, bet bands and expanded again resulting in them, achieving the title of the number, one largest dodge dealership on planet earth in Nineteen, seventy, four by nineteen seventy five fleet sales had soared, but unfortunately two years later Mr Norm sold his share of grant spaulding dodge ending the Mr Norm era. Both later later, Mr Norm would cement his status as moped legend when he was inducted into the mope are hall of fame in one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine, some of Mr Norms, other accolades include his induction into the affects car hall of fame. The Mo- Par Action Magazine Lifetime, Achievement Award, his induction into the supercar showdown hall of fame has inducted into the route, sixty six crews in hall of fame, his induction into the hall of fame at Great Lakes dragway in Union Grove Wisconsin and I'm sure he's going to be adding to that list as Mr Norm as a legend amongst legends. That's the absolute best way to describe him for people like myself. Mr Norm as a representative of who we'd all like to think we'd be if we opened our dodge dealership. I know I. Think about what a modern day Mr Grand, spaulding dodge would be like, but until someone makes it a reality, the idea will simply live amongst all the other crazy ideas in my head without entrepreneurs like Mr, norm push boundaries and seize opportunities. The world would be a pretty dull place. We as MOPE aren't. theseus were lucky that Mr Norman? His brother Lin went with dodge and now. Now one of the other two big Detroit automakers, Mr Norman is grand spaulding dodge dealership are legendary in the world of Mo- par, and for that he should be honored and thanked for his contribution to our beloved Pentastar Culture, so thank you Mr norm from me, and all the other true diehard mope aren't theseus who recognize how much of an impact you've had on the high-performance heritage of Before we close up shop here. I got to tell you guys about something crazy that I saw over the weekend on craigslist of all places now this could very well have been project of the week, but you know we're just going to have a little brief discussion about it. I tried to check the local craigslist ads. You know once a day, but sometimes you know I get busy and other things happen and over the weekend high ended up going. Oh, I haven't checked craigslist so I checked some local listings and a new. New Car had popped up and it was in nineteen seventy dodge charger project car for ten thousand dollars, there ran and drove now I know if you've been paying attention to the marketplace lately, but finding any nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy dodge charger front, or ten thousand dollars is hard enough. Let alone to find one that runs and drives so this guy gets this car to work on with his kid and rebuild with his kid well. His kid lost interest and doesn't have time so now. He's selling it right so. I freak out, but when I get to the ad, it's one of those ads where in the title put sold, so I was like Oh. My God and it's at ten thousand dollars so I'm like I gotTA check this out anyway, so check it out and you know he says sorry about. Not Getting back to a lot of you had over a hundred messages and calls, or whatever and. He sold the car. So I'm looking at this Adam. Looking at car and I'm like God. This thing looks pretty solid. I can see seats in it and you know it's sitting on some staggered. Nice looking. American torch thrust wheels and I just couldn't believe it. I was like ten thousand dollars. This has to be you know be ass. You know what I mean, but apparently it's real. Apparently it got sold and apparently. It sold for twenty one thousand five hundred dollars. That's according to facebook and you know that that's insane. Folks, you know. Ten thousand dollars gets bid up to twenty one five. You know and. I originally had posted on the Mo-. Part hundred facebook page I was like hey, look, guys. They're still deals to be had out there, but apparently I was wrong, but even then at twenty one five I've seen basket case. chargers go for twenty thousand. You know what I mean that. We're nowhere near running and driving. You know it's not uncommon to see rollers that. All sorts of metal work for you know fifteen thousand or right around in that area fifteen twenty thousand, so whoever got this car got a pretty good deal at least by today's standards, because like I said, it's really hard to find those cars running and driving for less than twenty thousand dollars so. You know. Whoever bought got it for twenty. One five I think they got a pretty good deal like I wouldn't be mad at that deal, but for ten grand man. I can only imagine how many calls and how many emails this guy was getting. You know he was probably just like. Wait a second. I low ball my own price here. You Know Ten grand I just. I couldn't even believe it. You know what I mean. It's one of those cars that. You know when it POPs up. You got you're either I or your last and everybody. WHAT THE GUY! Who bought for twenty one five is apparently last, but I'm curious to know. How many calls it took before the bidding war started to happen or what happened. Maybe he saw you know I had. A hundred calls. Maybe I should raise the price on this thing, but whatever the case may be there still are cars out there for decent deals. This one got bit up a little high, but You know it just goes to show. You're in the right place at the right time. Could you imagine? Being the first guy to call this guy. And He's like yeah. Man? Like. You're running to your little safety deposit box. You know your whole in the ground where you buried all your cash and you're getting out money quicker than you know than. You've ever gone money before just to get that deal, but. I thought it was cool and you know. I'm Kinda pumped because. That just goes to show you like I said that there are still deals out there, so be ready, so you don't have to get ready. You know what I mean if you've got, you know. That kind of money laying around you know I would suggest not having it the bank. I would suggest getting a safe a fireproof save putting it somewhere. Secure in your house so that if the deal like this comes up. You don't have to go to the bank. You don't have to do anything you call a guy and say. I've got ten thousand cash. Right in my hand right now. Let me come get the car. You know what I mean, so it's all about being in the right place, the right time and having the right amount of money, so don't get discouraged folks and be. Be Ready. That's my advice, but moving on. Let's not forget to go to build moped dot com to cast your vote for the car that will be outfitted with the modern Hammy to compete at the Modern Street Hemi shootout in twenty twenty. One until you're MOPE, par buddies to do the same thing your votes matter. Let's spread the word for our friends over a Hemi pages and get as many votes in on this project as possible. Let's get thousands. Let's get tens of thousands. Let's get hundreds of thousands hack. Let's go for a million. What do you say help me out? Help them. And you know. Hopefully we can all come up with something really cool, and we can all see what it is capable of at the Modern Street Hemi shootout twenty twenty. One all right there. You have it folks, another episode of talking Mo-. Pars is in the books for more information about this podcast or to listen and subscribe to the show. Please visit talking mopeds DOT COM and don't forget that you can send me your stories, questions, comments, complaints, suggestions, and everything else on your Mo- partick than mind to Chris at talking bars, dot, com, or leave me a voice message on my. My Voice Mail box, two, zero, nine, twenty, eight Mope Bar and you, mike get the chance to hear yourself on the show and also hey, get if you went to Carlisle. Tell me about your experience. I WANNA. Hear all about it, so send those messages to me and folks. I know I've told you this a few times now, but I'm going to remind you again. We now have merch in the talking Mo- Parse merch shop, you can purchase cool things like t shirts, hoodies, stickers, mugs, and more so if you want to help, support the show, represent the talking Pars tribe. And you know, get some cool stuff at the same time. Go to talking Mo-. PARSE DOT COM and check out the merch shop all right. That's it my friends until we talk again. I, am your host Chris Albrecht and that was talking. Mo- pars. Thank you for listening to talking parts your direct connection to all things moorpark until next time remember no more par left behind.

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A BREVIDADE DA VIDA - EP #033

Teologicamente

08:20 min | 3 weeks ago

A BREVIDADE DA VIDA - EP #033

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Wondery Presents: The Generation Why Podcast

Joe Exotic: Tiger King

04:11 min | Last month

Wondery Presents: The Generation Why Podcast

"The generation y. True crime podcast is hosted by friends just an errand who explored hundreds of unsolved murders and conspiracy theories from well known cases like the golden state killer to other mysterious cases like the nineteen ninety-six murder of angie dodge. When eighteen year old. Angie dodge failed to show up to work two of her co workers went to her apartment looking for her there. They found angie lying dead on her bedroom floor. The police got to work and soon had a confession from twenty year old. Christopher taps but something didn't add up his. Dna was nowhere to be found. Was he really involved or was there something more sinister going on. You're about to hear a preview of generation wise episode on angie dodgers murder after he listen. Subscribe to generation y on apple podcasts. Spotify or wherever. You're listening now to listen ad free. visit one. Three plus dot com slash gen y. That's one re plus dot com slash g. e. and w. h. y. So tonight's case earned no cases perfect there are aspects of this case that were completely flawed and atrocious. And there's other aspects that were handled in the most effective in amazing way there's always a nuance to every case to every investigation and this one's kind of a hard one to grasp because on one side you have such a failure and on the other side you have a bunch of departments and different companies orchestrating. The most intriguing investigation. I've ever seen to capture a criminal a murderer so with that. What are we talking about tonight tonight. We're talking about the rape and murder of an eighteen year. Old woman named anti dodge in june of nineteen ninety-six. This was in. Idaho falls idaho. Now angie was born in vancouver washington december twenty first nineteen seventy seven. She was the fourth child and only daughter are brothers were brett. Todd and roger Her father had joined the navy and met her mother. Carol and they got married in. Las vegas nevada. Angie was highly intelligent and had just a lust for life. She went to preschool in san diego. California the rest of her schooling happened. In idaho falls she graduated high school in one thousand nine hundred five and for short time went to idaho state university so she spent most of her life in idaho falls. Her family love to camp camping. Angie did two. She loved nature. Her favorite time of year was christmas her birthday velvet right before christmas. She loved the christmas parties and made these homemade christmas necklaces that she would handout and in high school she had a car. She called the boat. It was an oldsmobile. And oliver friends would pile in but in early nineteen ninety-six. She sold that car and bought a brand new chevy. She was getting older and looking to move out on her own so she got an apartment. In idaho falls she was growing up and this is something that her parents were very aware of. And in fact the last time that her mother saw her they had a little conversation about this and her mother said. You're always going to be my little girl. And angie told her mother that she loved her. That was on june twelfth. Nineteen ninety six in the evening now the morning of june thirteenth nineteen six and she doesn't show up for work. Her co workers went to her apartment to check on her. Because obviously it's not like her to a wall and not call so they went to her apartment. They found the front door was unlocked when they went inside. They found her laying dead on her bedroom floor.

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Mann Gulch Wildfire Tragedy Pt. 2

Natural Disasters

36:03 min | 6 months ago

Mann Gulch Wildfire Tragedy Pt. 2

"Due to the graphic consequences of today's disaster. Listener discretion is advised extreme caution is advised for listeners under thirteen. Five twelve PM on August fifth, nineteen, forty, nine, and Bob. Janssen knew he was about to die Jansen was in a low valley called Mann Gulch in Montana's Helena national forest. And all around him. Smoke and flames filled the GULCH. Come from the river at the mouth of the Gulch, looking for a team of smoke jumpers that had parachuted down inside. But it was obvious. He wouldn't be able to find them. Janssen couldn't even see ten feet in front of him. He turned around to run the quarter mile back to his boat on the Missouri River. But. It was too late, a blast of wind came up from the river towards the Gulch and roar of flame erupted from juniper bushes all around him. The wind spun the fire into a six hundred foot tower of flames and hurled it across the Gulch. It was a fire world, a tornado within a wildfire. Dropped to his knees for a second, he lost all consciousness. But Luckily, he came to, he crawled through the smoke towards the river where the rest of his fire crew waited anxiously on the boat. Finally, he felt cool. Water his fingertips. He had made it. Janssen glanced back at Mann Gulch in the massive fire world tearing through ID. He knew anyone caught in its path would not survive. Welcome to natural disasters Apar- cast original I'm your host Kate and I'm Tim every Thursday, we'll explore the moments in history. When the natural world turned deadly, you can find all episodes of natural disasters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream natural disasters for free on spotify, just open the APP and type natural disasters in the search bar. This is our second episode on the Nineteen Forty Nine Mann Gulch wildfire a massive inferno that was the first to claim the lives. Of Us, forest. Service smoke jumpers. Last week, we explored the conditions that created the powerful flames and the tragic circumstances that would lead to enormous damage and loss of. This week, we'll follow the inferno as it burns through Mann. Gulch, we'll also examine the immediate and long term aftermath of the tragedy for the region and the Forest Service. Will jump into the flames right after this. The Mann Gulch wildfire had ignited sometime in the early dawn hours of August fifth. But the dense growth of pines and a breeze from the Missouri River hit the smoke and flames for hours. Once the fire was discovered, it was already midday, and by the time, the MISSOULA smokejumpers parachuted into Mann gulch flames had consumed sixty acres of the dense forest and counting when the smoke jumpers landed, the fire was still contained. Contained on the south side of the Gulch along its Southern Ridge, the other side of this Ridge led down into the weather campground, a secluded, but popular tourist destination. The primary concern for the smoke jumpers was to keep the fire from burning over the ridge into the campground. If that happened tourists and rescuers alike was trapped, but their priorities quickly changed at five twelve pm, the forman inexperienced smoke jumper named was standing inside the Gulch below the Southern Ridge beside him was fired. Jim Harrison who had come over the burning Ridge from meriwether campground. Shortly, before the fire had spread, both men were looking up at the top of the ridge line trees as they exploded into flame. They both understood what this meant. The fire was crowning. A crown fire spreads faster through the treetops than across the ground covering about one hundred, twenty feet, minute alarmed dodge and Jim turned to go worn the rest of the smokejumpers who were deeper into the gulch finishing their lunches. Dodge was especially worried about firebrands. These were flaming chunks of tree branches and bark that were literally hurled out of a crowning wildfire. The burning pieces could fly nearly a quarter mile in front of the main fire line. When firebrands land, they often start spot fires, individuals, small blazes that surrounded the main wildfire. When spot fires come together, a wildfire can expand unpredictably across roads, bridges, and even canyons dodge I'd the dry grassy hillside as he gym moved up the Gulch keeping an eye out for firebrands and spot fires. Unfortunately, he was looking for danger in the wrong place. Just a few minutes later at the mouth of the Gulch near the river. River, the wildfire blew up. This was what Bobby Anson was witnessing in what he luckily was able to get away from wildfire blowups are incredibly rare phenomenon. Few people have witnessed them and live to tell about it. The wildfire quite literally explodes outward in a burst of oxygen and fuel burning over hundreds of acres in just a few minutes in Mann Gulch. The blow up was spawned by the Fire Whirl Yance in I witnessed. The wind came from two sides over the Meriwether Canyon Ridge that was already burning and the Gulch from the river. But thirty mile per hour wind spun the fire down into the lowest part of the Gulch where it had nearly killed. Janssen. Then the world pushed the flames across the Gulch and onto the opposite hillside this north side of the Gulch had fewer trees and was covered in thick grass the dry summer heat had cooked the. The long ways, high stocks of grass into the perfect fuel for a wildfire as the flames ignited the grass, the wildfire began moving faster than a human being could run and with the wind blowing up the Gulch, it reached a speed of two, hundred, eighty feet per minute. At that rate. It could burn the length of a football field in less than seventy seconds and it was heading up through the Goltz directly toward the smokejumpers. At. Five forty five PM Dodge was leading his men down the gulch toward the river when he saw the towering flames and smoke a quarter mile up ahead, he froze then spun around and shouted, we've got a head back up the hill man, the fifteen smoke jumpers and fire guard, Jim Harrison turned and ran dodge yelled for everyone to drop their tools and make for the top of the Grassy Hill two, hundred yards. Yards ahead by now, the wall of fire was only a hundred yards behind them. They had less than a minute before it reached them. The top of the Ridge was still several hundred feet higher in elevation and the Steep Hill had nearly twenty percent gradient. It was like trying to climb a stairwell covered in gravel and the smoke jumpers struggled to keep their footing as they clawed for the top of the Ridge. Glanced back and saw the fire approaching fast. The rest of the men were right on his heels. Then suddenly dodge stopped, he crouched and pulled a pack of matches from his pocket. Then he lit one and dropped it into the grass at his feet. The rest of the smoke jumpers saw foreman kneeling and assumed he was setting backfire like fire trenches backfires consume. Consume and eliminate potential fire fuel by burning the trees and grasses ahead of the fire. But backfires only work if the flames are able to burn against the wind, otherwise, the backfire simply expands the wildfire as it moves forward, and the wind was certainly blowing away from the wildfire and Mann Gulch. The men could feel the fifteen hundred degree heat blasting out. Out of the oncoming flames setting a backfire, didn't make any sense yet. That's what dodge was doing. Dodge crouched in front of his small growing fire waving his men. He shouted something as they passed him. But unfortunately, the roar of six hundred foot wall of flame behind them was to deafening as one smoke jumper ran by dodge faintly heard him say the hell. Hell with that, I'm getting out of here. The wildfire was blazing over the grassy hillside, just fifty yards from where dodge was kneeling, it would be upon him in seconds, but instead of running dodge laid down in the blackened circle of his own fire, he was directly in the wildfires path as the three hundred foot thick wall of flame raced toward him. Coming Up Dodge sees a world transformed by fire. High listeners. It's Kate navigating. Young adulthood can be a wild ride something social media. Star Addison. Ray couldn't do without her mom sharing coal in their entertaining new park. Original Series Mama knows best addison goes to her mom for advice on all things growing up here. They are to tell you more. Hey, I'm addison ray and I'm mom Sherry and every Monday on our new show. Mom knows best. We're going to get real about all the ups and downs of growing up finding love and going viral. We have a bunch of awesome topic signed up like your parents dating during a pandemic and so much more, and since I know best y'all know have some advice to share. Okay. But do you really know best is the name of the show? All right. Well I think we can let them be the judge of that new episodes of mom knows best every Monday exclusively on spotify. So follow and you can listen for free. Now back to the story. At Five fifty five PM on August fifth nineteen forty nine fourteen smoke jumpers and fire guard Jim Harrison were running for their lives up the steep northern hill of Mann Gulch. The massive wildfire was almost at their heels moving nearly ten feet per second through the thick dry grass, the leader of the group smoked jumper. Wagner. Had stopped and started a small fire in front of the oncoming wildfire. then. He stepped through the flames of his own making and laid down in the burned area. Dodge had tried to wave to the rest of the men to join him, but they kept running for the top of the northern hillside. There was a rea- Jr along the top called a Rim rock, and it would become the dividing line between the living and the dead. They were side hilling or running laterally across a hill with no trail. They couldn't turn and run directly uphill. It was far too steep. The nearly forty degree slope was also covered in loose rocks. One wrong step and smoke jumper would end up falling back down the hill into the wildfire just then two of the smokejumpers. Robert. Salih and Walter Ramsey saw a slight gap in the Rim rock. Just above them, it looked like a chance to break over. Over the Ridge to the other side before the fire caught up with them, the two men peeled off and ran as straight uphill as they could. They covered the hundred yards to the rim rock and crammed through the opening. Then they push through to the other side and emerged in a new valley untouched by fire, they could still hear the roar of the flames charging up. Up The ridge behind them Salih. Looked back in time to see the wall of flame, hit the top of the ridge. There were fewer trees and grass along the Rim rock, and he was surprised to see the flames were now only ten feet high. But Salih. Also saw that the fire dancing the flames were weaving in the wind blowing over the top of the Ridge igniting. Igniting swatches of the scarce undergrowth and flaring up like match heads. Then the fire rolled over the top of the ridge straight towards them. Luckily, Salih and Romsey climbed onto the pile of rocks. The flames licked around the edges of the rockpile with men dodged bursts of fire. It quickly burned around the rocks and continued downhill into the pristine belly, Salih and Romsey had been spared. But on the other side of the Rim rock back in Mann Gulch. The rest of the smokejumpers weren't so lucky. They had kept on a diagonal path toward the top of the grassy. Hill looking for a way over the Rim rock and the fire was still coming up behind them at six hundred feet per minute almost twice as fast as the men could run suddenly one of them lost. Lost his footing a sickening crack came from his leg as it snapped into unfortunately, nobody heard the crack or his Holler as he fell, but nobody would have been able to help him. Anyway, the injured smoke jumper fell backwards toward the oncoming flames. He disappeared into the fire with a scream farther up the hill. Another smoke jumper turned to see a figure shrouded in smoke bolt past him. It was a huge eight point buck with no hair left on its body only steaming scorched skin. The deer only made it a few more yards before it collapsed and died, but the dozen remaining smokejumpers and Jim Harrison kept running. They covered three, hundred, seventy, five yards in two minutes. This was pay similar to running a mile in nine minutes and they done it while running uphill in heavy fire gear. Still it wasn't enough. At Five, fifty, six, the fire caught up to the rest of the smoke jumpers. The flames were twenty feet long reaching out in advance of the wall of fire, these burned up all the oxygen within several feet of the oncoming wildfire. This made the wildfire more deadly than any other kind wildfires suck up so much oxygen that it's impossible to breathe easy yards away from the flames. As they took their final steps, the men's suddenly had no air. The heat from the fire reached eighteen hundred degrees Fahrenheit. At that temperature. A single breath can be fatal. It scorched their lungs as they gasped for air one. By one, they passed out and fell for flames, consume their bodies. That back down the Hill Wagner Dodge was still alive. Dodge stood up in the middle of a black Ashi Patch of ground about one hundred feet square. By setting his backfire, he had burned up the fuel in this area before the wildfire reached it, the wildfire had literally burned around dodges inert body as he lay in the ashes of his own fire, dodge remembered the heat blast, nearly lifting him up two or three times, the massive wildfire burned over him. But while his clothes and face were black and charred and his eyes were red and watery, he hadn't been burned, dodge checked his watch. It was six ten piane. Just twenty minutes had passed since the wildfire blew up. But the entire Gulch had burned through flames had engulfed all three thousand acres of Mann Gulch a little under four and a half square miles in less than ten minutes. All that was left was a two mile stretch of smoldering embers and charge trees stunned by the black wasteland around him dodge set out to find the rest of his smoke jumper crew dead or alive. Meanwhile the fire was still active in the Ridge into Meriwether Canyon. Bob, Johnson, ground crew had continued up river to marry weather campground. Now, they were attempting to put out the fire from the meriwether side. Janssen new, the Jim Harrison, the Camp Ground Fire Guard had gone over the Ridge and joined the smoke jumpers before the fire. He could tell because Harrison disappeared into the fire line at the top of the Ridge. Janssen hoped that Harrison and the smoke jumpers were somewhere alive. Still fighting the fire, it would be several more hours until he found out how wrong he was is. Backup on the burned hillside and Mann Gulch. Dodge found a survivor twenty-four-year-old joe. Sylvia, he made it about two hundred feet from where dodge had set. His backfire Sylvia was sitting on a flat section of rock when Dodge approached him, his clothing had burned away. The flesh on his face was peeling an onion skin. When he lifted an arm toward, dodge the form and saw that Sylvia's hands were burned down to charred stumps. But Sylvia could still talk. He said I should have stayed with you. I would have made it. I just couldn't tell what you wanted. I just didn't know, Sylvia kept talking almost delirious. He was in a state of euphoria. The fire has scorched. So deep into Sylvia's tissues that his nerve endings were burnt away. Mercifully, he wasn't feeling any pain after calming. The young man for a few minutes dodge left his water canteen with Sylvia and went to look for other survivors. Unfortunately, Sylvia couldn't lift the canteen with his burned hands. He simply sat on the rock waiting. Up on the Ridge Salih and Z. heard shouting a few hundred feet away from the rock slide that had saved their lives. When they went back up on the charred ridge, they found another smoke jumper bill hellman like Sylvia Hellman was burned almost beyond recognition. Skin was hanging in patches from his face arms and legs. He begged Selena for a drink of water and Salih helped him drink from his canteen. quickly. Vomited the water backup up. He tried again. But his throat and stomach were scorched from the hot air he had breathed. The muscle spasms forced him to reach the water back up. Still he kept trying to drink. Hellman was in a state of delirium, but he was also in serious pain. Salih went looking for a first aid kit. He had dropped back over the ridge and Mann Gulch. As he reached, the top of the Ridge Salih spotted dodge coming up towards them. Dodge told them about Sylvia. Then he Ramsey and Salih plan their next move. The charred Gulch was eerily silent around them. As they whispered, the fire was still burning on the Meriwether Canyon Ridge across from them and it's flickering glow illuminated burnt loves all over the GULCH. Some of these were tree stumps and dead animals. Others were the burned bodies of Jim Harrison and the other dozen smokejumpers. If Silvio Helmand, we're going to get out of the goats alive. They needed to reach help fast. Unfortunately, the smoke jumpers radio had been destroyed upon parachute landing. The men decided that Romsey would stay with helmet to keep him calm. Salih in Dodge would go down to the meriwether campground for help with silent nod the men parted ways dodge Salih headed back into Mann Gulch, towards the river. Romsey and helmet stayed put watching the dying wildfire on the opposite Ridge. At Eight Fifty PM Dodge Salih finally made it to the meriwether campground after following the river from Mann. Gulch. Bob Jansen was stunned to see the smoke jumper foreman he thought dodges crew was still fighting the fire from Gulch. Dodge quickly told him about the blow up and the eleven men still missing and Yance and called in a rescue team from Helena including a pair of doctors. It was past midnight on August six by the tiny Anson and his rescue team reached the deadly Rim rock above Mann Gulch Bill. The wildfire was now burning far down the adjacent valley. Mann. Go was still smoldering spot fires, licked flames over the trees and grass all over the Gulch. The team heard the occasional crackling of trees exploding on the hillside has the sap boiled until it burst from the heat, the team also heard Hellman wailing at the top of the Ridge he was crying for. Water. They reached helmet and Romsey, just before one a m, the doctors on the rescue team loaded hellman onto a stretcher to evacuate him several of the men cried as they carry the Stretcher Downhill Yan sin and the rest of his team continued into Mann Gulch. They retraced the final steps of the smoke jumpers frantic race for safety following the horrific smell of burned flesh in the wind. Then at one fifty, a m they heard short cry. It was Joe Sylvia a hundred feet away and still perched on the rock where dodge left him, his canteen was full. He hadn't had a drink of water in nearly seven hours. But when Yance? Johnson and the team reached him, Sylvia was still as euphoric as he had been when dodge I found him. He wasn't in pain. He was dying. One of the doctors on the team later described why this was, he said the sensory system dumps into the bloodstream usually takes until the next day to clog your kidneys, the doctors and Johnson decided, it was too dangerous to move. Sylvia. In the dark, his subcutaneous fat had burned away leaving him fully exposed chilly night air. Instead the team huddled around the happy burned man to keep him. Warm. The. Sun. Rose a little after four. Am on the sixth and Yance and divided his team. Some went down to the river to evacuate the to burn smoke jumpers the rest spread out in a line to comb the hillside for bodies. It only took a few minutes to find the first charred corpse. It was Jim Harrison the meriwether campground fire guard. Johansen, had known Harrison personally. So when he examined the body, he recognized several personal items. It took another twenty four hours to find the rest of the smoke jumpers bodies. Selene dodge took turns identifying the remains the last corpse discovered was that of the smoke jumper who had broken his leg? He had rolled nearly to the bottom of the. Gulch. Dodge didn't leave Mann Gulch until the last body was found. But when he finally returned to the smoke jumper headquarters in Missoula, there was more bad news waiting for him. Neither Sylvia nor Hellman had survived, they're terrible burns. Both had died of kidney failure in the hospital within hours of arrival. All in all the Mann Gulch wildfire had claimed thirteen lives and left only three survivors, dodge Salih, and Romsey. Bob Johnson finally returned home after nightfall on August seventh where he told his wife to burn his clothes. He said they smelled of death. By the time, the Mann Gulch wildfire was finally extinguished. A total of four, hundred, fifty firefighters. Including Janssen's men had participated in battling the flames, but the consequences were far from over after the survivors returned home, the questions began. Just. How did the smokejumpers find themselves directly in the path of the fire? Dodge Salih and Romsey survived when the other trained and did not, and why did the fire blow up the way? It did the forest service, the victims families, and even the survivors themselves wanted answers. Coming up the investigation in Mann, Gulch takes another. Toll. Now back to the story. The man gold wildfire in August nineteen, forty, nine, killed thirteen firefighters and burned nearly five thousand acres of Montana's Helena National Forest. It left many questions in its ashes six weeks after the fire on September twenty sixth nineteen forty-nine. The Forest Service convened a board of review to investigate the terrible sequence of events. The board interviewed each of the three surviving smokejumpers as well as bobbie-ann and several expert foresters. The first question everybody had. Had was these three men had survived especially, our Wagner Dodge. The escape fire had saved dodges life, and it could have saved the other smoke jumpers. But at the time none of them recognize what dodge was doing this was because dodge had essentially invented this lifesaving practice on the spot. He had discovered that by lighting a fire to burn out the fuel in a small area, a firefighter could actually survive a blow up. No smoke jumper had ever thought to use the escape fire technique in the field. Until Dodge did in Mann Gulch this information was one of the few. Emerge from the tragedy, it became a standard training procedure for smoke jumpers and subsequent generations of wildland firefighters. The forest service also developed an aluminum coated fire shelter that could be quickly deployed in the event of a blow up by setting an escape fire and laying under the fire shelter wildland firefighters were able to replicate dodges survival method. These emergency techniques also became standard procedure, but they still weren't guaranteed to save lives in two thousand. Thousand Thirteen, a hotshot crew on the urinal hill fire in Arizona was also caught in a wildfire blow up. They said an escape fire. But the two thousand degree heat consumed all the oxygen in the area. All nineteen firefighters were killed surpassing Mann Gulch is death toll and becoming one of the deadliest fires in history, and while dodge had been lucky to survive even with his escape fire, he wasn't as lucky as selene. Romsey. According to most of the testimonies, get the review board, the two men should have been dead. The gap in the Rim rock was simply a lucky discovery as was the rockslide on the other side that protected the two men once the fire jumped the ridge. But the fact that they even reached the. Rim. Rock to begin with was nothing short of a miracle as the fire closed in on them. Selene Romsey ran almost seven miles per hour in heavy clothing to reach the Rim rock faster than most of the other. Other men, subsequent visits by investigators with stop watches found. The nobody could match that uphill pace granted. None of the investigators had a six hundred foot wall of fire chasing them uphill. They also found that the fire weakened as it rolled over the ridge. This match. Sali's description of ten foot flames. Salih. Also testified about the behavior of the fire as it hit the top of the rich and how it seemed to slow down. His description of the flames dancing in the wind inspired a new set of theories about the blow up, and it was the investigation of these theories that led to the final death inside Mann Gulch. On November? Ninth Nineteen forty nine. bobbie-ann sin returned to Mann Gulch with wildfire expert Harry Gisborne the Gulch was still blackened and dead even three months after the Fire Gisborne was investigating his theory that the blow up wasn't because of a fire world, but some other 'cause this went directly against what Johnson himself had seen at the mouth of the Gulch in fact, Johansen had been killed by. By the fire whirl, he agreed to show Gisborne the area where he saw the fire, crossed the Gulch and tear up toward the smokejumpers in hopes that they could put these other theories to rest when they reach the top of the Ridge and showed, Gisborne, the clear evidence of a fire whirl. The trees were all blown down in the same direction toward where the smoke jumpers perished. Gisborne was happy to be wrong and he spent most of the hike back positing new theories about how the fire world formed. But unfortunately, Gisborne had a heart condition during a rest stop. He abruptly went silent, then fell to the ground. Hanson swooped in to check for breathing and heartbeat. But Gisborne was dead. He had suffered a massive heart attack. and. Went for help and lead a team to retrieve Gisborne's body the next day. Unfortunately, this wasn't Janssen's last visit to. Mann, Gulch. That would come a decade later and it would also end on a tragic note. Ten years after the fire, one of the smoke jumpers widows asked to visit her husband's marker. She had been battling deep depression since his death and was hoping for closure. Anson obliged to request and guided her up the hill. When they reached the concrete crosses marking where each smokejumpers body was found. They took a moment of silence. As he bowed his head Johnson looked down and saw a tiny grey bone fragment protruding from the earth. The fire had been so hot that several bodies had partially cremated. Trying to spare her from the horrific truth, he quietly moved and set his foot on top of it. So the widow wouldn't see. Unfortunately, the trip itself was not enough not long afterwards, the widow took her own life. Mann Gulch seemed to have cursed Janson. He was troubled by his experiences there for the rest of his life. His wife said that he had nightmares all the way up until his death in nineteen, sixty, five and yance wasn't the only one to suffer from lasting effects Roberts. Salih refused to discuss the fire for decades although he stayed on as a smoke jumper until nineteen, fifty one. Afterwards. He got a degree in forestry and joined the paper industry. The other smoke jumper to survive Walter Ramsey quipped forest service following the tragedy. In a career in natural resource management and avoided all connections to Mann Gulch. For the rest of his life, he died a plane crash in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty. However, the most tragic end was wagner dodge. He attended every funeral for his smoke jumper crew and took blame and absolution in equal measure. He carried his guilt stoically and without complaint, a silent casualty of the wildfire. While Dodge stayed in the smoke jumper program until nineteen fifty, he never jumped on another fire. But he relived the painful experience with every subsequent interview in the press and every time he trained a new crew of smokejumpers. Then, just five years after the Mann Gulch Fire Dodge died of Hodgkin's disease. But? The man Gold's tragedy and the tragic death surrounding, it were not entirely in vain. The review board found that the smoke jumpers had done the best they could, but the fires behavior was simply too unpredictable in response. The forest service used Gisborne's research to establish a fire science laboratory in Missoula. The labs still exists today and studies, fire behavior, typography fuels, and plans of attack for fighting fires. It's responsible for the majority of safety developments in modern wildland firefighting. The man Gold's tragedy also revealed the shortcomings in communication and safety training for wild firefighters. A new mandatory safety program was implemented in the following decades culminating in the L. C. S. system of Nineteen Ninety L. C. E.. S. stands for lookouts, communication, escape routes, and safety zones. The Elsie es system mandates a lookout firefighter and the establishment of escape and safety areas before attacking fire. However, no strategy in the world is foolproof and as long as there are wildfires there will be firefighters sent to suppress them. Mann Gulch may have been the first wildfire to claim the lives of firefighters, but it certainly will not be the last. Thanks for listening to natural disasters for more information on the Mann Gulch tragedy. Amongst the many sources we used, we found young men and fire by Norman Maclean and a great day to fight fire. By mark. Matthews, extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of natural disasters and all other park asked originals for free on spotify, not only spotify already have all of your favorite music. Music. But now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like natural disasters for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream natural disasters on spotify. Just open the APP and type natural disasters in the search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at Park cast and twitter at park cast network, we'll see next time. Natural disasters was created by Max Cutler and his a podcast studios original. It's executive produced by Max, Cutler, sound designed by Nick Johnson with production assistance by Ron. 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"You'RE LISTENING TO CASTLE CAR CAST ON PODCAST ONE A. GUYS WELCOME TO CAR CASTS WE'VE. Got An interesting show for you today a check on some news about the. It's new F one fifty some updates. Jaguar Jaguar, I pace and You know the next advancements in Apple carplay to technology that a lot of us seem to be relying on more and more, but before we get started work from our friends at Geiko. You know we are though we're apart these days we are sharing more. GYCO would just like to say thanks for that. Thanks for sharing all your cool videos dance videos. Pet videos dance moves a DIY haircut. Haircut fails all on stuff that you guys are posting, and now it's guy goes to GEICO's turn to share as well with the Geiko giveback, it's a fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for both new and current customers because GEICO's committed for the long haul, the fifteen percent credit last year, full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash, give back! That's GEICO. Dot Com slash. 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When you turn it into the different modes sport, Mona the track mode, it changes the layout of all the gauges. It gets rid of some of the things that you don't need. and. Gives you some of the things you do need and you can start to like in the Mustang in particular, because you essentially have this computer screen on the Dash, you can put in the Christmas tree for drag racing to customers. Yeah, you can do all kinds of stuff like that. As well as shift lights and whatnot, so you can do some things like that, so probably gives them the opportunity to it, and then also possibly A. Or even a straight up, ev. F. One fifty and of course that digital dash gives them the ability to to. Possibly one dash, one fit mid one piece of hardware and go on the EV version. All the graphics are changed and on. The hybrid version so. And the other thing that. You'RE GONNA. Find in the F one. Fifty that I think is pretty significant and more cars are doing. This are over the air updates this is. This is something that Tesla has been doing and other car. Companies are rolling out, but. You're able to. You, guys heard this about about Tesla and other things you're. You're able to to roll out. NEW FEATURES DO UPDATES to the software and so much of the vehicle software now I'm not just talking about an infotainment system. Very famously when there were floods in Texas. Tesla was able to send out over the air and extended range software package to Tesla's. That may have been stranded or trying to leave town during those floods. Obviously, it would reduce performance. You can't change. The battery possibly reduced performance, but increase range A. For for those people that that needed it or wanted that option at the time when they were trying to leave town because of all those floods. We could do some cool things with over the air updates. I think. I think having those things for any vehicles specially something as popular as an F.. One fifty could be could be pretty cool, because now you can start to roll out by the way. You could arguably out engine tuning of some sort, so maybe in the aftermarket world. You can go to your company. Go, Hey, I WANNA do. I WANNA. Do it tune, but you know there's a lot of mail order tunes, and they they load up attuned, and they email it to you. And you loaded in your hand held tuner, or something like that I don't know if the aftermarket has access to over the air updates, but it would be interesting to like like you were saying you mentioned. GEARHEAD would be call up Mario gearhead and go. Hey, man I got a new Ram. It has over the air updates. New Program? Hey He. Taps, away on the laptop there, and it uploads right in your truck I. Don't know if it's going to be quite like that because if if you could get that kind of access, then everything becomes hackel. Everything's GonNa. Be Hackel at at some point like with enough when it gets to that point everything. Right it's. It's what you need is a demand for it, right? It's like hey, if if something needs to be. Hacker wants to be hacked by a large enough group of people. That's going to happen so. A actually now that I think about it. I think there was an episode of Ncis Los Angeles that you might have been an where at the beginning of the episode was somebody was driving a car and the car computer essentially got hacked and. Down the car or crash the car or something now the funny part of it is is they needed to destroy a car, so they took like nine hundred ninety nine mercury sable, which clearly, we did not have any hack. Over the air updates or something so. You can't be so perceptive when you asked mess show. I liked what they were doing. They're like. Hey. We need to keep it modern, so let's make the car like we. We access the car a computer and shut it down or crashed it or killed the breaks, or whatever it was like okay I. Get it like it like where you're at cut to mercury sable like. No No Good show love the show, but at least they're also smart enough to go. Yeah, let's not record brand new tesla model three for the sake of storytelling. Let's just say. Let's let's let's wreck. The fifteen hundred dollar mercury. Hopefully the detail will be overlooked. It was not overlooked by me. Anyway so so. Digital Dash Dash over the update over the air updates larger touchscreen, possibly a fold down rear seat. That can act as a bed. Maybe not for you. I said positively hybrid, possibly EVI, and it would be kind of cool to also see are a raptor announcement now typically you. You would hold that offer a year and go. Hey, here's a new effort fifty. Let's get some out there. Let's get some tested and then keep. It fresh go. Yeah, in a year now. We've got a raptor, right. but These Times may change that that that strategy you know. They could certainly do the announcement in say new F one fifty will roll out. You know end of this year beginning of next year, and then you know October. Twenty, one expect a raptor. They could just give it a teaser. Something along the lines of that. So, people can sort of plan their their shopping, or if you currently have raptor and you're wondering, do I want to trade it in or sell it or get something new. The rumor on the raptor is it could go back to V eight engine. Which? Is Good. That being said. The next vehicle. That has some news and some updates. Very welcome updates Jaguar face the Jaguars paces the electric. Electric vehicle from Jag I drove it i. kind of liked it. I liked it for La. It's interesting because I just got this is. A little out of character for us, but I just got a loner today base last night for the Chevy volt, the all electric Chevy volt. It's the. I guess you could call on a Chevy volt replacement, but the came out before they were done with with the vault and. Driving it here. It's the interior, little sparse, and the seats are flat and Kinda feels like a big golf cart and. But I will say essentially. Essentially is, but the range is better. It's quiet. It has pretty decent power. You know getting onto the freeway and the on ramps and smashing the throttle down and. It seems to scoot along pretty good. One, of the things I, did notice was, and I'll get into it more as I drive, it more was. For a tiny car with a short wheelbase. It was pretty comfortable. You would expect it to be a bumpier ride because of the short wheelbase and it road. Very nice it. I'll tell you why rides a lot nicer than my truck crane of the trucks twenty five years old. And I've got to make some revisions to that to to make it better to smooth it out. We're going to play around with Spring rates and shock, tuning and stuff like that. But I was impressed by the ride quality of it, but you know the rest just kind of felt like. Just still kind of felt like. We're. We're trying to make these. Yeah, it felt a little plane and I. Know they're doing it because I was the range. What was the range on? So when I got in it, it said the Max Range with something to seventy four. That's what's. On the DASH And I think I left the house at like to fortyish. To thirty something and it was about thirty miles to get here and it would seem to be pretty accurate granted this morning. We got a little bit of June gloom going on so I. Just didn't use the climate control at all off. It wasn't. It wasn't on anything. Here was off and I would imagine on some small level. Things like making troll. Climate control the Stereo even the story of volume. How much power you're drawing! But you know we. We've been fortunate enough to drive so many. Interesting cars, fancy cars that when you get into a car like the bolt and you go and you say. I get it. This is meant for the commuter. This is just for the commuter. Interpretation of transportation. You're right and as much as I like to get into a car and enjoy the driving portion of it I wouldn't say. This isn't the right car for that. You could have fun in this car, but this is meant to be the commuter car. This is meant to be you. Plug it in at home, and it's very simple, and they're trying to make it affordable by. By investing in the batteries and the and the drive train, and not necessarily in all the other bits and pieces. I, I, don't know. I, don't have the Monroney on it so i. don't know what the trim level is because they just drop it off. I'll get the information. And are there. Is there a premium trim model is a leather stronger. But the overall shape of the Dash, and there's no you know. There's a bit of a center console, but it doesn't connect to. The Dash is kind of one piece, and then there's a gap and then there's. The Center Console Cup holders. That's also one of the things that of makes it feel like a golf cart. Is when you get in the golf cart, imagine there's sort of the tubes minimal minimal. Yeah, there's there's there's. A cockpit feel to it like a like a lot of newer cars, even sports, sedans, and things like that have more wrap around a certainly I busy. Corvette would be you just. You're yeah. My biggest question would be. How does it feel comparatively being invisible when you drive to front work? Yeah Right. Guys. List this is is kind of a nice. It's kind of a nice shade of Red. It's kind of a metallic dark red, so it does stand out a little bit. It does feel a little bit small, but also it's. It's a little bit like. I kind of think about like your property. I know you run around on the UTV's and things like that and. I don't know there's something very functionable about functional about the Bolt you get the strip down version with the biggest battery. You can open the back hatch. You can put the seats down and. It could be an on property. Yes. You really could like why not a little open trailer or something? It's. Probably. Look if you wanted an electric version of what you were doing out there and he didn't want the straight up golf cart. I kind of feel like this could play that I've always well I. Don't know I'm sure that was in their marketing plans. When they roll this thing out. Yeah, right, tell little horse trailer behind it. that it must do that anyway. We haven't seen a commercial. Jaguar I pace. What I drove it out here. I liked it I thought it was quick all-wheel-drive I. Believe all wheel drive if I, remember correctly, I think all wheel drive I want WanNa, say all wheel drive, but two motors not four. I think there's sort of for Axel rear axle motor I could be wrong on that It's been a little while I drove it right when it came out. But. I liked it. I thought it was quick. I thought it was a good size for the city definitely larger than the bolt! SORT OF COMPACT SUV size a enough ground clearance to not worry about sort of these steep angles and speed bumps in parking garages in L., A., but not high like even let's say a Rav four. It's not quite that high, so it had a little bit. Sir, lower stance Actually, what do you think about it? You think of my Ford lightning and I lowered it and I- lowered it. Not Too much, so it clears. You know the parking blocks. In your parking lot, and you know when you roll up into the COSCO or whatever, but oh, yeah I, know well. My signatures on many of them are yeah. Yeah. So it clears that, but also feels low enough that it feels has a good stance. Good supporting the Jaguars Pacers that way as well. And that's storage, front and rear, which is kind of interesting. But as we've said for quite a while now in the Jaguar Land Rover Realm. The electronics are Kinda subpar the INFOTAINMENT system. A little buggy! It's it's even slow slow to boot up. It's slow when you pop it into reverse reverse cameras on, and then he pop it back into drive. You're. One of the things that Adam complained about his jack. He's like hey. I put it back and drive, and I'm halfway down the street and the cameras still on in the back. Like when does it start to shift over so? Jaguars has issues with electronics for a very long time, and I can attest to that having my father's xjs catching on fire, dropping me off in high school when. Yeah. Yeah I've always said like there's. It make sense. To oftentimes outsource some of this stuff to a notable brand and get some cachet from that brand like why? Why not say hey, Hey, developed my infotainment system and say it's from Google or or apple, or whatever or Microsoft like like Ford's been doing with sink now it's called Microsoft sync anymore. Now it's Ford's proprietary stuff sink three, but but it had a brand name on it, they it was co developed with them and I. Think Four. Does it all now? In House and I think they have. I think Ford and several of these car companies now have like tech. Divisions in Silicon Valley away and whatever so. So. This is what we have is. There are some more color choices? There is a bright pack and the black pack and the chrome. The bright pack has some chrome trim in the handles. And the black pack has the Black Exterior Trim pieces, so you want that look and blacked out like logos and things like that, which is kind of cool. As new Three D surround camera, which is interesting, it has their clear sight. Our digital rear view mirror found off of the Range Rover evoque and then. The. New infotainment system. Which replaces the old one? They've got different names for them. The PVC pro replaces I don't know. Some other. Version of IT I. Don't know what it is, but now there's a larger screen twelve point three inch screen. It has car play an android auto integrated into it, and of course it has featured. We were talking about that. We like it has built in four G.. Selcuk connection which provides live fic- It provides. Navigation routes with real time charging stations like what's going on at the charging stations, and of course over the air updates which. A company like Jack could really benefit from see that as a huge selling for a company like them going. Yeah, going Hey! They want to roll out some updates, or if they find a bug on your on your iphone or your cell phone. Hey, there's a security patch or there's A. Or new APP has been released, and the APP is a little buggy when it when you, when it turns on the camera or something right so over the air updates. I'm a big fan of. The system's supposed to load up quicker be quicker overall. And the the other thing is the Jaguar has a slightly different battery in it now it doesn't increase the range or the performance, but it does allow for faster charging times, so it's. It's interesting because one of the things we've. Spoke about arguably complained, about was the infrastructure for charging electric vehicles and I know all the car companies are going. Yeah, yeah, but that's not what it's for. It's for that commuter guy like the Chevy both guy going you drive it to work you drive it home you plug in, but if you WANNA, plug it in outside of work or home. We still have a very subpar. infrastructure. In something like l. a. where you think there'd be chargers available in more places. It's really not and the few that are. There are always taken. They're always fall. So? Jaguar is at least acknowledging that and saying hey. We will do a little bit faster charged. It's not it's not about going from zero to one hundred percent charge it's it's if you plug the thing in for thirty minutes. How much charge can you get? Are you going to get twenty miles or are you going to get thirty miles? It doesn't sound like much, but it is a big jump so if you can. If you can plug it in for a little while during lunch, break or something. And pickup thirty miles. That could make the difference look. I live in Venice. I'm out here in Glendale. It's basically thirty miles and if I could. Go grab a sandwich someplace coming into the podcast and plug it Ed. And pick up thirty miles of range. That's huge. You know a twenty miles wouldn't get me home. Thirty miles would. Like some of the updates on that. I think that's kind of NEAT and. And I think we're going to start to see more and more of that stuff is. Is specially now which is interesting now in this pandemic world. People are a little hesitant on brain. Their car to the dealer to get updates done and get maintenance dawn, and if you can do it over the air, it's much more cost efficient for everybody if you think about. What do you take your car in for warranty work? Somebody has to pay for that, and it's usually the manufacturer paying dealing right. Somebody's somebody's paying for it, so if the manufacturer kind of take that equation out. For some of these things, then you know. For us and I think it's A. It's a huge up sell so. Yeah and Apple speaking of carplay technology. Apple's had their worldwide developer conference happing. Now they do their. Do their new product release I duNNo. Once or twice a year I forget what the events call, and then they do the developer conference. Among other things, there were some updates to carplay. It's not really changing the interface for car play, but those of us that do use it and rely on it. And want to be able to alter it. Car played now has or will as they roll this out. You can customize the background or the wallpaper. Whatever you WANNA. Call it. You can do something Kinda. Cool put the car brand name logo. Something your own brand in there. So you can customize that. There are three new categories allowable within the interface parking, ev charging and food ordering which is kind of neat, and we can dig into the details of that at some point, but I imagine so many people are rolling up and going. Hey, Hey, cheesecake factory! Bring me my fourteen pound Omelette and Slice of chocolate cake at curbside pickup. Maybe maybe there's a way to do that via via the system to make it simple or maybe it's just Uber APPs. Just like I'm on. My ubereats said you could just place the order while you're driving instead of having to pull over scroll through or have a buddy. Do It for you. Which is kind of interesting and then. I. Car Companies are rolling out this phone as a key phone. As a key I think is Ford's phrase that they're using and I did a drive with them. I think it was in like Carmel and Whatnot Monterrey area and with Lincoln and we experimented with this phone as key. You could obviously use the key fob and get in the vehicle. You can use to keep pat on the on the door. That Ford Lincoln have. Or your phone you use the APP on your phone and you can kinda just walk up and open the doors and access stuff. So, there's an expansion on that. Working with apple and the car companies where? I could give you access. Let's say I'm out of town or for example. Let's say bill you. You keep a car out here in La when you come out here to film. But you live in Texas and you say hey. Can you move my car? Having worked on at the shop and great, you can send me a text message and we'll give me access to your phone via tax I'm sure some. Authentication process pass for process and stuff and go all right so now. I can walk up to your car out here anywhere. Fire it up. Move it if I need to do whatever and then give the control back back to you. It's neat because this this control. This phone as key stuff on should be accessible in the apple. I watch as well so you don't even need to take your phone out of your pocket if you got the dog. So it's turned into some James Bond Shit. This is some pretty. Pretty Pretty tacky stuff. The initial rollout for for these will be a lot of the BMW models and then. And then PM W and Ford working with apple on. Different routes that you take for e, vs and and and for the EV charging stations we talked about. The Jaguar Pace, having fourteen and giving you access to real time charging station network well, apple carplay is going to have that feature in it as well which hopefully will be accessible to any electric vehicle that uses car play. We'll be able to access that sort of a generic or universal version of that. It wouldn't have to be proprietary to Jaguar. Available to anybody using so. Connie. Some pretty cool stuff there as well. Let's let's do another shadow at dodge. Summertime is the best time to join the Brotherhood of muscle because dodge power dollars. 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Hurry into your local dodge dealer now to take advantage of dodge power dollars, and now that dealers are opened. You can go and do that or if you don't WanNa. Go just call them like you did last month your month before. The to soar before that. Good! What's going on with you? What's going on over there working on the working on the garage? Working on the call man, yeah, I don't WanNa talk about the garage broken ground another another weeks gone by unfortunately, but you know. I it was the the soundstages. The sound studio I had to refine the drawing. They could finalize. It was resubmitted All Turbo parts on the on the charger going up powder coatings, so we're getting closer there. and. That's it for me. Yeah, it's good when you guys are getting When you guys are getting into that. That studio I know it just sort of the shape of it now for the for the permits, but. Be Sure to talk to Chris over here. He can tell you what go think. His phone won't be ringing right now. What the hell the put in there. Yeah absolutely. No question. Thank you very much. Way Way past new, but. Very much looking forward to Wanda's barnes finishing up so the next project, obviously the Grozny night. Right to be done like. I eager like you want to get it done in. You're seeing the plans you get excited about it and I know. You got car scattered and storage and things like that. You're you KINDA WANNA. Get settled in over there and I! Know you guys been doing that for a while now. Certainly well, it's a it's a you know your lives completely upside down because the you know. Seventy five percent of my life as my car and working out, and I don't have access to either one of them at the point, fifth point on my property, so it's a weird and I know how I'm not whole until that happens and. I know you can get I. Get this way to get a little antsy because like you're saying like we've been talking about is that. There's only so much work we can do. We can't go out and do live events only now things are starting to to open up where you can go out and shoot some some some TV or film or whatever? You explain to us many times sort of the atmosphere. WWe And you're not obligated to Russell at this time, but but that whole thing is still just there's no, there's no audience. It's a different dynamic, and and so a lot of us are still at home going. Yeah, yeah I, I want to finish the projects at home before things kick in again like when you are anyway because in film. TV shows and start. Doing like even the pitches now. Going to have the time. Yeah, to have the time to do any of yeah, so hands on time is is out of the question that point, but hey man you know it is. Yeah it is. But I. I saw. About the truck, yes. Not not a ton of updates but I explained the steering issue with you guys last week on the the steering box because ever frontier linkage, it would turn backwards basically, but backing up a trailer. I'm sure it's fantastic. Driving around. And this is, this is what we've. We've included as much as I want the quick ratio twelve to one box. There isn't a gear set available. That's reverse. That's twelve to one now I don't know what the truck has sixteen eighteen. Whatever it's, it's it's. It's sloppy. But there's a group out here that. That builds custom steering boxes. They build them for the street. They bill them from Racing Cars And they are building a fourteen to one. Reverse rotation box valve up specifically for the weight of the vehicle. It's going to get us very close. To what we want! And we'll see they're also may be way. To to improve. The ratio so I'm GonNa try it at the fourteen one, which will be a huge improvement. It's about three turns. Lock to lock versus two and a half turns twenty five, you know. What it was, so it's only like another quarter. Turn to the laughter quarter. Turn to the right. It's probably going to be fine that combined with. The tightness of a new steering box and the elimination of the RAG joint and the solid steering shaft and on the steering components. It's going to be a huge difference plus the feedback. It's not gonNA feel super light, and like it's starting all over the road. It's going to have a little bit more of a solid feedback. In as far as the pressure for the power steering and south, and which by the way we'll be able to tune. We can change some of the valve on if we want to A for example when we do switch to the new motor and And, it's all aluminum. I don't think it's GonNa cut a huge difference off the front end, but if we feel like the front, and is now a little too light for the steering, we can add a little more feedback to steering. Now, but if you think about this. I haven't looked in to. The different PITMAN arms, but A lot of times you can. The length of the pitman arm, which would. Increase or decrease the ratio of the steering. There's. So we may be able to get away with a longer pitman arm now the way this steering linkages set up I'm not exactly sure I haven't looked at it yet, but if If we get this built up in the fourteen and one ratio and I I feel like a needs a little bit more. We could play around with that and the pitman arm is fairly easy. Swap where it hangs down. It's pretty easy to access to bolt one on the linkage one on the steering box and I might be able to find one. That's a little bit different length. Swap it in. Try it see what happens, and if I can put back. It's I honestly think it could be done in probably thirty minutes. Spine you line it up. You can market, you know you can go down there. Just market with with a sharpie or marker and go. This is where it's lined up. Put The new one on and try it that way. Sure Open works man I hope it works yeah so. These guys pulled the specs of the flaming river box and I said look. I know there's the saginaw boxers. The the other ones is three bolts a four ball. We've already done the work on mounting this thing i. need the exact same case, so you need to find the case. Build the box. And they said fine done I said the spine count is is the a three quarter inch thirty, and he's like done, and because they're. They're basically building this for us. we should be able to get it the way we want and I think it'll work out fine, and if anybody is interested in a brand new, never used only mounted laming airing. You to buy I, have one for you I'll give you a nice little discount on it. Great Product. I tell you like what you put it up on the rack and I and I. It. Wouldn't even put wheels on. It didn't put down the ground. It was nice, super tight works. Great Super Smooth. I just got a just got a reverse at now. There's probably some way. To do the inline reversal gear or or move the box. Slightly to maybe the other side of this during linkage custom welded and changed the steering shaft, but the easy solution right now is is just go with the box at these guys. You'RE GONNA, Build, and and I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but. I was sensitive to the fact that the guys at Galvan Auto Sports had my truck up on their lift and their main area where they have a whole lot of high volume and I said I didn't want the truck. To be taking up your left. For two weeks. So I pulled the trigger on having this box made, and these guys said they can rush it and get it done in about a week. which is probably about as much time as gala needs to. Put together the rear differential. They get the housing back from powder coating. And then they're going to. You know so. They're going to assemble the differential with the new axles, and then they get a lower it. They did all my ac components all fresh AC components charges system so probably when they're done with all of that stuff, the steering box will began. It should be an easy swap because now it's just the four bolts in essentially that. And the steering shaft and the Pitman arm. But, it's an easy mount. It's very accessible where it is on the frame, and these guys have done it already a couple of times and fitting this, so it can be swapped out in thirty Matt's. I'm excited to get it back. I think it's going to be I. Think it's going to be interesting. It, going over there and seeing the truck on the left I. Just sit there and I'm just scratching my chain going. Yeah, I don't know about the least brings in the back and when I lowered. The frames not notch, so you only get like? In the back? Even though I cut the bump stops on the suspension. There's only loud. Is only about two inches of travel before you still hit the cut bump stops right, so so it's it's A. It's a weird thing. It's like when you lower these trucks. And we talked about the ride quality. And the ride quality still kind of bumpy it's it's going to require some shock tuning which I'm working on. Possibly spring, but it's going to be mostly the shock. When I first lowered it and didn't cut the bump stops. There was only about an inch of space between the axle housing. The bump stop so when you would hit a bump. It would hit that. Bump stop and. Like it would definitely balanced and and kind of really make the truck on stable so I cut the bump stops down a little bit. Added about another inch and it's good, but on big bombs, or if you've got stuff in the back of the truck, I've been rolling around with a bunch of parts in the back. So it still feels like it's hitting it a little bit. And that with with you know kind of some. Universal sort of defacto shocked tuning. I. I think it can be improved because the default mode of this truck is is. Whatever it's meant to tow a certain amount, and has a payload of a certain amount, but these days because we're doing something cost them. We can do whatever we want with that I'm thinking about a four link with a coil over that has that is adjustable? I could change springs if I want I can change the right height if I want and a slight notch on the frame I. Don't want to notch the frame and tub the thing and cut out the wheel wells and lose the flu season. Of the truck yeah, a little bit of a notch, but just enough in the frame that I don't need to cut the frame. There's kids available. I've looked at a bunch. And and it can be done in. It'll give me a four link adjustable coil overs. More What's the word I'm thinking for more range on the shocks? Travel more travel on the shocks, and probably some sort of bar or something like that for the for the side to side movement, and we can tune it the way we want and look if I say go for that's GonNa be probably other than the performance of the of the motor stopping pets stopping. Hauer, you know the the ride in that truck. was just about the mentioned. Remember this suspension. They K. W. put on. The Challenger was sitting next to you. My challenger Carbon car. That was finally resigned. Why spoke to him last week and they're going to do it on the charger, too, and in speaking to him, that was. Arguably the most the best the best upgrade I did I car. All the other stuff is cool and response to. This the ability to take the car to where. Much further than you could have was stock in a safe manner is huge and the everyday ride ride comfort absolutely the biggest thing you know so talking to him. Big suggested Yashar. If you're going to drive that thing, because in the beginning, you weren't GonNa, do shit. You're going to do one or two things. In that one thing led to another to another. That's what happened. Yeah, yeah, I'M GONNA drive. That thing man you. That's fine. I've got K. W. Miam- three. Stage three huge difference. It's fantastic and I was able to kind of dial in high. Actually the when the car was originally bill would when when Adam Karol had the car, there was an old set of of. Of Coil over very new when the m three came out in two thousand one, the ride was charitable, and it was very low, yeah, hard bumpy to go, and it took the enjoyment out of it and switching to the cane abuse. I was actually able to raise it a little bit, which made it easier to to drive and rubbing tires and all the other stuff. I. Don't Know How many settings you add on it, but I. Yeah, I've got the stage three, so they are. They are fully adjustable. Here's a thought on the truck I'll put out there to you. Truck is Bronco guys. The. The? The truck, the F one fifty has the twin I beam suspension is big long arms go across i. have the drop beams from Dj em I'm happy with the the main. They seem super beefy and actually lighter than the stock ones. I don't want to cut the whole front end of this thing and both up some new type of suspension. I've just invested a lot into the steering for those of you. That are interested in the steering. This will be an easy solution for you guys especially now that you can get a reverse rotation fourteen to one gearbox I'll let you know how it is. But. What I would like to do is to dial in the height and the tuning of the shocks and. This! This truck has a coil spring with a shock next to it and it. What you would expect. There's a lower amount for the spring. There's an upper mount for this spring and I know some of you offroad guys. Switched to a coil over system with a with a lift and whatever. I'm looking for which we ended up may make is I'm looking for a bolt on coil over conversion for that twin IBM suspension I just want to take out the coil, Spring and shock and put in a coil over conversion without redoing the entire suspension I'm sure there'll be some sort of lower mount will have to develop an upper mount will have to develop maybe some peace, or whatever maybe even I would say. You have to beef it up but I. Don't know that you need to. Because there's always a lot of enough pressure and stuff on on what's currently there? The stamp steel where the coil spring seats seats into. And I would like to see a coil over conversion. and. I'll see. I, could order the coils in the spring rates and stuff based on the angle of the shock, and the angle of the coil over and the weight, and there's some calculations you can do to get yourself a pretty good spring rate I'll match it up to whatever the proper spring rate is into the rear I'll go to the same company I don't know Qa, one or hotchkiss or ride, tech and say. Can you work with me on developing a coil over for this? You know. Pull something out of your parts catalog. Let's get the springs and the length and the islets in Howard mounts. There's enough universal stuff out there that we can probably get to where we want it. But then be able to dial it in right and and look if I do say hey, I'm GonNa Hook Open trailer I'm going to talk to the Sema show. I'd like to be able to go underneath the back of the truck with my spanner, ranch or something and adjust the coil, overs or do an airbag. Not Not compressor, but do a helper type of air bag system if I want on on on the four link, or whatever and you still use it as a truck, but around town I'm not really telling stuff I'm not putting a ton of weight in the back. So I would like it to be a little bit more compliant right and I think we talk about adjustable suspension on a lot of cars. But how often do we adjust this stuff and now? I started thinking about. Yeah, maybe you hit attracting. You do some adjustments, but I'm thinking about how you use a truck. It's more likely. I'll alter the adjustments more in in the truck that I would in. Let's say the BMW I don't really if nothing else. It's easier to get to yeah, IT IS I. It's funny, because let's be honest. I mean we're talking about easier. The apple carplay. You've been able to text you by key. I got the ride height set on this truck. Where you guys seen the pictures. It's got a pretty good stance with the eighteen inch wheels, and the big breaks and stuff. It's just high enough. that. I can throw down a piece of cardboard and slide myself underneath truck. When I was doing. The speed center via in in the rear housing. I would slide under. And if I got right under the differential under the PUMPKIN. My nose would hit it. Right, but I didn't have to use the jacks or the stands or anything. And I didn't have to slide under the pump. I have plenty of room, but I'm saying if I did get under that large. The largest portion of it. My nose would just hit it, but I could slide underneath that. Thank get my hand on top of the Axel housing. Get with a ratchet. PULL THE BSS out. File it down and I ended up doing that like eighteen times just to see. If, it made the difference and I didn't have the Jack thing every time. It's the perfect ride height for me when you were talking about adjustability. is on the shock on the coil over itself, and you access it from underneath. I can just I can literally slide under their wheel still on. It turned the dial so however I want try drive am done you know I. Mean if you did a remote reservoir with the adjustability on, it could be kind of cool to move that into the bed of the truck or something, but I don't necessarily need to I. You can kind of get anyway all right. That's good. Let's wrap it up. We got another show, too, and I know you've gotta run. You've got another Engagement Cooman. Thank you and hopefully next week. Let's see if we can get al back in. Let's talk new F one fifty. That's going to be kind of a big deal and. Oh by the way I think. Going to say we touched on his last week and I was like. Oh, maybe I should sell them three and get the new GT. Five hundred because I love it. So twenty five thousand dollar markup is the current rate and you know how I feel about markups not going to happen. I'm not having him, but anyway. That's it. What do you got anything else before we wrap it up? I don't remember what I was. GonNa say. All right. Let's hope import. 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Indy 500, Supercars, and Dodge

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Indy 500, Supercars, and Dodge

"You'RE LISTENING TO CASTLE CAR CAST ON PODCAST ONE A. O'Reilly auto parts proud sponsor of car casts specializes in keeping your car on the road superstar batteries exclusive at a reilly auto parts are designed to meet the electric. The electrical I should say demands of today's vehicles get dependable power and performance from a superstar battery for your car truck motorcycle, lawnmower boat and more superstar batteries are built to handle. Even the toughest conditions I have one, I use it in my race I, I have like a race. PREP. I take all my race stuff. Part of the race stuff is a little Dolly with the battery in it and I use it to start the cars when we're firing up the race car high compression and the race cars need that extra that the superstar batteries give it. So visit a reilly auto parts today and the professional parts people they can test your battery or help you find the best superstar battery for your vehicle stop by O'Reilly auto parts today or visit them online O'Reilly auto, DOT, com. Hey, guys we've got a good car cast for you. Today we're GonNa talk about just a little recap of indy five hundred winners there. Some news about Ford Mustang Mach, e supercar stuff, and and and the little update on. On. The horsepower number for Goldberg's dodge charger twin turbo carpet. Before we get started, want to welcome a new sponsor or a couple net sweet America's ready to get back to work. But to win and the New Economy, you need every advantage to succeed smart companies run on net suite by Oracle. It's the world's number one cloud business system with net. Sweet. You'll have visibility and control of your financials HR inventory ECOMMERCE and more all in one place whether you're doing a million or hundreds of millions in sales net. Sweet. 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We get sounds from that's harder and then we'll have to do. We'll do. We'll do a new version of of the whooshing sound but. It's got to be on this street because I don't like it on the Dyno because you hear too much dino, right? We gotta get sounds of that on the street. We'll do a new intro sound. For that. Well. Speaking of it's time for dodge power dollars that means for each horse power. You get ten dollars off your purchase on a dodge charger challenger or Durango. So come in for Dodge power dollars today for pretty sweet deal. All right. So getting into some news big weekend indy five, hundred with no spectators It was a good race, a couple of crashes. Seems like everybody is okay. And it was it was an interesting race I would say the end of the race was less than spectacular if if you got to watch any of it but. Basically, it was the top three. We have our friend camera hall came in number three Scott Dixon, who led most of the race came in number two and Tacoma Sato. He wins it for the second time. He wins at Indy five hundred and a great day for for Rahal Letterman team. We're always good friends with Bobby Ray hough I see him at Long Beach every year he's been here to the shop and Adam Corollas Porsche nine, thirty, five, the Paul Newman light nine, thirty five after that. The very famously it was in the Apple Computer livery that was bobby ray halls car driver that. So he came here and saw the car. So Graham Ray Hall and Tacoma Sato are both Ray Hall. Letterman and so that team took a first in a third two cars in the podium. Fantastic for those guys I, believe there was a crash. Five Five Last five laps or four labs or something like that I. don't know exactly what lap it was on. It was bad. But they had to make a decision. Do We red flag it and then race the last three laps or do we yellow flag in the races end at the yellow flag and they chose to yellow flag it. So whatever the order was when the crash happened that basically was the ray. So a little bit less than spectacular. Sprint at the end because I was watching it. And going, Hey, I know that one two three guys are a little bit separated. They've only got four laps that to tighten. The grouping put under yellow if they get a green light or if they red flag, it then punched up again it's really going to be a sprint so it would have been exciting to see but I understand. This is the way it works, and this is racing and everybody's fine with with the results and. It is what it is but not everybody was. Not Everybody's fine with it I. I always. Grass was unbelievable crashes unbelievable. Yeah. I mean the technology and these cars to withstand that impact on that wall at that speed. was. Unbelievable. He just walked out of that car and it was a testament to what? He did wobble a little on his way out. He's He was still together and hit hit the wall and then spun and then just as bad luck would have it hit right on the end of of that wall like into into pit row now they have the tire barriers and whatever at the end of that but they when they were talking about it. I think it was Paul Tracy was on the Mike and. Him being a racer such a long time. He's like remember before we had the tires I forgot who, I'm sure somebody knows said somebody else hit split the car and half like half went down pit row and half went down the track and this is kind of where we are and yes. Talk about the canopy, you're the halo system on those cars. Had A huge bet a huge benefit definitely, some protection for the driver. Probably. Some structural integrity around the cockpit of driver. If you look at that crash and you look at the aftermath of it, you see how much damage to the car but not a lot around the driver. Even, when we we build cars for the street and you look at all the crazy crash testing. That happens you you do you do notice how the car supposed to crumple around and absorb the impact around the cockpit. But? Being exciting race A little. Disappointed that they weren't able to do it in front of spectators I know the guys on the podium I know Sato. was great for them. Great to see it on TV. Not. The same without three, hundred, thousand people screaming at at the time you know you you. Are One of the few wrestlers to be able to do some of the biggest events in the day and then actually do the in the studio no audience wrestling. So you know what it's like to have you know sixty thousand or so people screaming and that's what that live show is all about right then find it. It's a huge difference. It's why you do. It's. It's one of the main reasons you do because you're there to entertain you it's a, it's a competition you have with yourself to be best the be every time, but you're but ultimately you're out there to. You know. Put a show on for peak. but I mean this, this has been the normal for the last number of months and We gotTa Kinda accepted move on and then you know when the the gates of hell opened back up again, we can all address it at that point but yeah. Sucks, and it's it's amazing to see during this time how some sports can prosper and some sports really fall by the wayside. There presented in front of no fans. Yeah. Well, how did you? How did you think? I mean. As there are a lot of things you can watch like hockey. For instance, I'm watching the Stanley Cup playoffs a huge hockey. To me I, don't miss the fans not being there. I really don't because it's it's it has everything to do with what's going on the ice in such a fast paced game and the announcers. So the the great announcing. Actions Awesome that you forget about that other aspect the in the crowd but in racing, it's it's different. I I think it is I think more about the people that are there. I, think more about the people playing I think I did watch a little bit of hockey the other day as well and they've got the sound going on like in in In the building you know that another. Charged like they're they're doing it to you know. I, get it for for the TV coverage and for what we see you don't really miss the audience. That's fine right Because the TV coverage is is fantastic and you know their third doing it. I would imagine a little bit better. To not show this. Is Missing or anything you know. Grand Stand's empty. But I think about the players I think about the drivers at Indy I think about. Those guys that really. Wrestling as well. I think about them that really kind of perform to an audience or. wrastling more so than than racing, but the the sound and. The feeling of that audience there what is that do to them and like well, I'll. Be. The biggest thing is how hard they've worked their asses off to get to the play offs to get the indy five hundred yeah you know, and then the pay what's the payoff? The payoff is you win or lose right to pay off usually is also the experience and so yeah, you can see look back on it and go yeah I was part of a race with no stance there but you'd much rather say that, yeah, man that was one of the spectacular experiences of my life because there were three hundred thousand people there was unbelievable. The sights and sounds it's just it's a shame for the people that are that are having to perform. An will be it's funny. It's GonNa go down it's going to go down as this indy-500 will will go down in history as something very, very unique about everyone's like, Oh, you remember the year we didn't have spectators and then next year God willing everything goes and we are allowed spectators. It's going to be the biggest indy five hundred party of all time ever. It's like they're already talking, oh, it's going to be nuts next year especially with with the ownership with Roger Penske he's already put fifteen million into the facility alone. At the end when you saw the cargo up on the big elevator which they say judge. which they just did. They. which was fantastic. Having the the amount of people, the amount of coverage. That you're gonNA. See it's going to be. It's going to be a huge. Party. Albert. On that and they did that for the spectate they did that I can. Be a great TV coverage be. A great for Bobby Ray Hall we saw David Letter Up with his insane mountain man beard China wear masks that crazy beard hanging out the bottom of it. Looked like a lunatic and that thing. by Ya Letterman was up there on the on the podium is as well but. It was an exciting race it was fun to see. was congratulations to those guys to. Grammy Hall Scott Dixon and. And saw it was. It was fun Bernie to into the corners really. Oh my gosh these guys were. Qualifying and. Some of the lap times they were putting down and it's just it's just fantastic. On what they were, what they were doing. All right. So also in the news we've got is Ford Mustang Mach E which too bad. Not here to do the news for. grits. Crusade should we need all? Sound drop. faulk. Allaster. We should have allister's. audio. ALLISTER's. A willow springs doing more testing of the Corvette C eight he's been posting on his Razors what was I don't know. I don't know if you saw his but. Three pictures of of the like a Selfie on heaven I'm like, why is the? What's the? What's the image of the tired Sweaty Brit? He's like uptake team and it's like one hundred, ten degrees out here and they're doing. They're doing track day, but just constant filming and stopping and testing, and filming and stopping and testing, and it's just I was up there for a for a summer event and it is brutal. Down in South Texas with the road kill guys throwing dirt everywhere hundred and ten degrees. Everybody suffering. Yeah well, they're all having fun. Now they're all having fun. The Mustang Marquis. As you guys know the all electric Mustang. Similar to Bronco, and similar to dodge. Aram trx everyone's doing a launch, a launch addition vehicle and the mock e. Had Pre. Orders available on the Ford website. And the immediately sold out of the launch edition and then four just announced. They're they're going to offer more. Orders available for the launch edition and it's kind of interesting how they're doing it. Is. They have partnered up with some other sites like UNKRAINE, Dot Com. And spotify. And you'll go to their websites through these partner programs and order it there and I don't know if they're all going to be the same. The way I understood it is unclear rate. Their car. They're going to have a limited number of the launch editions and I think they're going to be. Gray, with the black interior. and. I think red. Calipers. The grays like carbonized gray, it'll have the black upholstery I, think it has red stitching. Now I don't know if that's unique to all of the launch editions or the ones that will be available. I'd on crate so it's as I kind of like. Like the idea of partnering up with these guys, it's it's the one you get us the three hundred and forty, six, horsepower, four, hundred and twenty, eight, pound few torque. It's the dual motors it's the to seventy range to seventy whatever it's estimated. And it's fifty, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty thousand bucks for the for the dual motor version. Almost, three hundred, fifty power and I'm wondering is the spotify version different right or is. I don't know exactly what the vehicle you must remember this. I don't know if they still do you know for a long time I think was like over the holidays, Neiman Marcus would do a high end special version of a car. They would say, Hey, you know the new Maserati grand tour's most coming out and it's one hundred and twenty grand. But for one hundred and sixty five, you could buy the Neiman Marcus edition right and it's got. Some new stitching, and it's got this and that a few options and colors that you wouldn't normally be able to get, and there's a premium on it, you'll order it from the Neiman. Marcus Catalog. So, this is sort of Ford. More kind of every man version of that partnering with. You know maybe not super high end fancy brands. This isn't a Neiman Marcus thing but this this is done crate and this spotify and if it's more of the audience. So I kind of liked that idea also I like the idea because there isn't lake a spotify markup. You know you still get the car for sixty grand it's not lying, Hey, the spotify version is seventy two thousand, right? This is. That would bite him. Yeah. Yeah. Because we don't really need to do that and the benefit for these brands, of course is cooperating with Ford and Ford cooperating with them. So, it's mutual some traffic to their side and allows these guys I don't know maybe collect some email addresses. It's business, right you some email addresses and welcome to uncover. Subscribe if you want to but thanks for coming by get on the list for your Ford Machi launch edition and this is also what we do. It's kind of win win. It's what we do. That's just How how presentation do you say? Yeah, man I, kept the special edition on crew. I mean, there's no relation there. So I mean there is. By like we're saying it's it's not an uncritical dot com branded version of the vehicle. It's just the destination you're going to order it, and it's a way to introduce some customers to that company right? That's that's all they're really doing look. spotify doing a bunch of podcasting and they got music and all kinds of stuff going on they want to bring some people there and part of their marketing campaign is everybody always reaches out and goes how do we do something more creative? How do we do even on an a podcast do different kinds of live rates and immigrated segments Naveh guests on the show and Blah Blah Blah. This is just a version of that. This is just going. Hey. I'm I'm fine with it. That's what businesses. Hey, we're here doing a show. We love doing the show, but there is still a business behind this so. Anyway, more more machi first editions available and as of today as a recording this and I'm sure as you're reading this, there are some available. So if you didn't get the opportunity to go to four dot com and order up what you wanted. You can still do that now. I don't exactly know. If, they're going to do something with Bronco as well. The Bronco. First editions. I believe are sold out. And I don't know if they're going to be able to do something like this. Now, it seems like if this guy. Temporary little pilot program does well no reason why they couldn't do something cool with with Bronco as well by the way. Really Hey, go to the REI website right or or to your Bronco or your your first edition Bronco from them or or whatever. You know something along the lines of that. Anyway, there's a few out there. Have you seen. The everybody loves the nine eleven. Yes ma'am and Turbo ass out there we love the turbo s? And then they did Turbo West first and then they released the. And and then they released the Targa and I had commented on social media. I think to Edmonds or somebody and I said great love that they've got the Targa but I'd like to see Tara gts with manual and the Senate Lock Wheels and And the comments were I dunno seems like a really small audience but then a lot of people were with me and going. Yeah. But they did that last year for the previous. And in my book. The GTS is one of the better looking of the cars and the the reason why is top upper top down? It's fine. But I do like the the aluminum bar that goes across and if you really look at the rear glass, the rear glass on the target is is a single piece of. For the back and then curves down to the side. So it's almost like the quarter windows in the rear glass are all one piece of glass and there's no pillar cutting them in half. So the rear visibility is nice and it gives a really Nice luck in my opinion I think it's one of the best looking ones out there and the GTS has always been the most kind of Bang for the buck when you're optioning out a portion portion or so all cart with their options. You can. Jump into the price point and get into the Turbo Turbo s range. Or you can option up whatever the Karrar, the nine eleven four, whatever the two or the four. But the GTS was always kind of the nicely option versions of any of the cars Cayenne my con-. You know I always liked those and when I saw the previous Jen, the Targa gts with an optional manual and the had the centre lock wheels, which is only on the GT cars and the Turbo S I thought that was kind of a neat feature so I'd love to see a GTS. Targa but. We have a GT three coming out and we have a GT three R s and the spy shots of the GT three are S. Are are pretty sick. It's got like some rs our bodywork on it. It's a cool looking. Beautiful. quit understand it's a beautiful car they did it. into. Its I mean, everyone's getting nutty with the wings these days. We saw the. We talked about it a little while ago. We talked about the AM G. GT? Black series or whatever black series GTS something and with the crazy wing and all this stuff. Actually, we talked about it because the sound wasn't crazy white quite quite there for for a flat plane crank Va.. Missing the sound a little bit. The crazy wing. Yeah, and the three are ask Porsche. wide-body events, what they're doing on the hood and it's got a little like our s our body work to it. It's it's pretty wild. It's over the top I'm curious to see attitude man that car is beauty center exhaust twin center exhaust in it. So if you guys haven't seen the the spy photos of that, it's worth checking out because it's going to be kind of a bad ass car and throw that Emoji drooling right now. The Julie Emoji, it's a five hundred, twenty horsepower from the naturally aspirated engine. Right that things got a scream I don't know. You're at right now. Oh that things going to be kind of nuts four liter. Naturally aspirated, as we said, five hundred and twenty horsepower. Is going to be on it but. I don't know it's kind of kind of cool. And in this time I was at one similar to bat in I owned. It was the one that I ended up selling to Jesse. James Two thousand, three twin, all wheel drive twin Turbo Oh. Yeah the Porsche. Yeah and I loved that car. But in in it's been, you know fifteen years, ten years since I've. Had My possession my except for the ninety two we've got this one. Man This. This could be the -absolutely gorgeous car the GT, three in love with it know since the beginning the concept of the car itself, and now what they did to that Arrow package delayed the car is put together. It's absolutely drop dead. Gorgeous. Yeah I agree and it's GonNa look bad ass and just As far as performance. Some of the options that were seeing is the the GT three regular. Could have. A manual transmission But the IRS is very likely not even gonNA have it as an option. It's GONNA be Clutch. It's going to be the only way they're gonNA be able to get the performance that they need to get out of it. Of course, that's what everybody's sort of going towards. So we all know that argument we've been down this road before. Anyway speaking of of supercars news from from McLaren as well. It's interesting because it seemed not that long ago McLaren was. The News about McLaren was you know sales have dropped significantly something like sixty percents corona virus hit hard. For a lot of car companies them being one of them. And Struggled for some financing actually we talked about, Hey, well, they do have a nice building. They have a huge car collection and museum. They can leverage that maybe borrow against it used data's collateral, not necessarily sell it off but just borrow against it and say, Hey, we've got By the way every time a McLaren F one goes to auction and the price keeps getting jacked up good for them. Right? They could. They could. Get. A barrel. That's never just based on that. So McLaren's future is they WANNA get away from combustion engines completely by twenty thirty, which in ten years that seems aggressive and so the next generation of McLaren's are all going to be hybrid. We had the P one. And and the Senate I believe had. A hybrid powertrain hybrid in the form of performance. But they've been working on their new carbon fiber todd. Their. Monaco. Tob. And, it's meant to support a hybrid. Drive train. So I don't know exactly what the spectral be or how they will differ from model to model. But expect. McLaren to only have something like seventeen mile electric only range on it. I don't think it's you know this isn't meant to be you know go sixty seventy miles on electric rain it's meant for performance. and. Overall better fuel economy. It's going to be much more aligned with what what we've seen with accurate NS X.. Than anything else. especially on their streetcars or their sports cars versus their supercars were talking five, seventy, six, hundred series versus seven twenty s. So. Interesting plans for for McLaren I, don't know how many models are going to be releasing now it's it's. Porsches well, like you know a McLaren can say, Hey, we've got twelve new cars coming out what they mean is three platforms, right? Maybe five, hundred series six, hundred, series, seven, hundred series, and then each one of those is going to have four versions of it. and. I get it to drive all wheel drive hybrid this and that and. Long tail and not and and stuff. So. Anyway a lot of interesting stuff from McLaren we're big fans McLaren. We've driven a lot of them. Just. Fantastic cars to drive. I would imagine they're going to be doing some some cool things with this, but I just thought that was kind of kind of interesting that. I'm sure that's going to lower the price of all their new vehicles to. Well I mean they're gonNA have to compete. Yeah. You're right. You know they're going to have to compete on some level with with with where they currently are like I don't i. don't the intake one of their cars let's say it's one hundred, sixty, four, thousand, dollar price range or base price I don't think the hybrid version can be one, eighty, five, I. Don't think you can go twenty thousand above because it just gets you out of that. Out of that realm, a little too much I don't know to be kind interesting, but I've been talking to Ferrari recently is well had a nice conversation with them the other day just kind of talking about what's going on with them and what's what do they see a future plans and how do they, of course? They have an SUV in the works. We'll see how that plays out A. I like the quiet comparatively over this. My my correct in making that statement. Yes, I think. So I think they would be also in the in the US they they can't get any like press cars here. They don't normally have a big press fleet. So I think they only have the one car maybe the F. Eight I think is an oppressively out here. They don't have a Portofino they don't have a Roma you know. The new Rome that I think Ken League infielder ordered one. That you know. So they're. They're not being able to generate a lot of press from that right now in here in the US. The. One thing I can tell you is. A few years back, my shift and steer guys Brad fanshawe Aaron Hagar we we all drove up to. I think we went to sears point. We went to Sonoma's Noma to the race track there, and we visited the Ferrari Challenge and we actually sat down with the CEO of Ferrari North America. We had a nice interview with them. We had a nice lunch with them. Drove a Ferrari F. F. I believe. I know it sounds like questioning it. What I mean is I know what it was. The F. F. is the hatchback but right after that the loose Oh GTC came out and I don't know if I drove the F. F. or the loose. So I think I drove the last the tail end of the F.. F.. which was which was nice. But Ferrari challenge was I don't know. Fifteen cars racing. And the Freud challenge has now grown the enthusiasts. Of? That brand. Are. Buying the challenge cars participating in that program and they're having run groups of thirty and forty cars. which is, which is fantastic. So ferraris putting a lot more attention onto that saying hey. You guys are liking what we're doing. We're going to continue to grow Ferrari challenge. We're going to do more events. We're GONNA, make it more exciting and listen. This is the epitome of Richmond Sport you pay a shit ton of money to get the car you pay shit ton of money to go racing, but they put on a nice event. It's one of those events where you're like, Hey, you're out there racing your quarter million dollar car amongst everybody else's got a quarter million dollar car, the cars they drive to the tracking, our Enzo Ferrari's, and then there's a trailer there and I believe all the Ferrari challenge cars are basically sponsored by whoever that a local dealer is and the dealer will show but the semi-truck with who however many racing cars they have. You know, let's say Ferrari San Francisco. They may have four cars or six cars or however many clients and they're going to go up there and sort of feel that forty. So what is nice to be a little bit Dixon some opportunity for these guys let's let's be honest and. To say, it's not competitive would be a absolute flat out lie because if you'll remember I was dropped right in the middle of the field at at In Atlanta Atlanta for the Viper, oh. Yeah. Those those guys take. Series as can be and you're correct what they drive up there as much more expensive than what they're driving on the drag. But what they're driving on the track is a real high level sports car but the ability to go be able to do that. You know it'd be a weekend racer that level is really cool. Yeah, it was. It was fun to go years ago and get a glimpse of of what Ferrari challenges in its in its early stages or at least. At the time when we went and how it's grown now. So I'm going to try to work out to go into another event. What manufacturer doesn't do it. I don't know I I. Don't know I. I don't know if nobody's. Doing it like Ferraris doing it. I don't think Ford's doing it like this with the GT. I thought Lamborghini. Did their favorite he does and also Masa Roddy was doing their their version of it. I'm not sure who's doing it at the level that that Ferrari's doing about poor I would imagine porsches. Jewish. Yeah and Ford. Ford has the program at Miller motorsports park right and then they do have that they're mustang racing I imagine still going on there's about I don't know about thirty cars. Go out there and it's much more affordable. There's different budgets. I forgot what it is to do the Ferrari challenge but the cars quarter in costs like one hundred grand to do the season of racing or I could be wrong to undercurrent but it's not insignificant and then I don't know like. The Mustang Racing Program Program would be like you could rent the car right? The prepped Mustang and do the. Eight eight races or something like that, and and it's it's probably about ten or twelve grand race not forty grand raise. So there's different programs at different levels that allow you to do that. It'd be nice if you didn't have to spend extra money on rebuilding your car after every race to. Yes. That is kind of thing, is not a lot of insurance out there. So if you put the car back and if you give it back to them in one piece, then it's ready for the you know you're not out of pocket additional money. Other than the wear and tear self usually included in all of that but Y-. For Ferrari, challenge I drove the F. Around cinema but then I did get in to one of the Ferrari challenge cars and with one of Ferrari's drivers and did a few laps with them riding shotgun and. And it's fun to do and it's fun to do while you're being able to the first. Lap you're you're you're. Kind of scared out of your mind then by lap two or three, you're like so tell me about the car here. What's going on here like you conder- is a bit of a columnist to you, and then you can start asking about the car and and the track, and he's like here's attracts rough you can feel it. It's really kind of bumpy here. and. This is where it Kinda slides out, and here we go all out and then you're you're so fascinated with the whole idea and that's the lap where you like where you get out, you go like man, I wanNA drive I wanna do that. The first one scares you the fourth lap third lappy like man I want to be able to do this. So anyways a fun event talking to them. Is was interesting. Hopefully, we're GONNA be able to do some more stuff with them maybe get out to one of their to one of their events but. Anyway, let's tell you more about our friends at dodge summertime is the best time to join the Brotherhood of muscle because dodge power dollars means you get a guaranteed discount and the math is simple. You've heard US talk about it before you get ten dollars off based on the total horsepower, every new dodge vehicle. So every dodge twenty, twenty, challenger, every twenty, twenty, Durango every twenty, twenty charger. You can. You can get this deal. 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Now to take advantage of dodge power dollars speaking of dodge power. You got some dino numbers. That, what's the latest on the on the twin turbo? gearhead fabrications charger with the parachute and the roll cage. Yeah. You know I'm getting pretty excited man he's going out and doing some. Eighth Mile to make sure the the puppies ready for me to take testing up in Wisconsin for speed tour I. Think He. Down Twelve, forty, five something like that and over thousands of pounds of Torque. It's going to be really interesting. If you saw that that clip of one of the dino runs, it tried to jump off that Dina. Twelve forty five horsepower to you know if he's running the ninety three octane or the eighty five on that one. I you know he hasn't mentioned eighty-five. So I, think it's ninety. Three Yeah Yeah I'm not positive but that's one of those. Very important details that we've. I've overlooked ask in this because I've been so excited you know because I saw I saw your post about it and I saw the gear heads post about it and they usually. Say that. They're both. Like, if it was e eighty-five, they would say. Eighty five so I think that's the pump gas well, the taxes podcast not are. Crap out hair this this. This I'm thinking of. I can't. I. Can't think of adjective that's not that's not vulgar. Inappropriate for the show but. So I'm positive biting my tongue. Yes. So on the ninety three octane. That's fantastic. So these guys. are going to take it out and do a few laps in it. Run the Eighth Mile Kinda shake it down a little bit more before it ships up to speed core. Yeah I don't have all the you know we've got the fords lines down there. We've got the ease up at. A good speed car right now but we're not gonNA outfit with the drag set up right now because we're not doing that extensive testing. So the transformation visually will be after against the speed core I. Don't think we're going to post any other. Sixty foot times or anything like that. I'm not sure but they're they're pretty happy with where it isn't. Here's the caveat throughout the the I've been really excited the follow this thing and you know hair I'm getting some on replicating from Sima last year and from what speakers done. But it sure as hell is not the biggest beast, the gearhead is building because you see I mean it's just like one of the other cars. I'm thinking I'm GonNa, get some monster. It's going to separate itself from the path. It's just part of the pack because they're pumping out some cars that you know regularly pumping twelve. Thousand Twelve hundred horsepower. Yeah. Yeah. But I I see some some comfort in that. Well. Definitely there's no question there's comfort in it, but for a guy that likes to be different. Right foul ninety percent of it is. Hey the middle of the pack is cool with the gearhead the gearhead boys because the mill packed, there's over thousand or stop. Right I mean that's up to standard so much with what they're doing with those held cat motives it's nuts. So that's That's nothing nothing new to pump out twelve hundred horsepower in a vehicle in their job, right but the combination of that and what speed cars going to do with it that's what's really going to make the car stand out. It pretty special speaking speed course they've been doing some post recently, they've teased for a while the charger I forgive me I think it's a sixty, nine charter maybe seventy I think it's sixty, eight, sixty, nine charter. They've tease for a while we've seen Tantrum in the cars that they're making one for Ralph Gills. WHO's the? Longtime designer head of you know. A dodge I know he's jumped around different brands s rt and all that he's you know he's a boss they are. Nice Guy. Probably been there for two years hell of a driver. And he's he's commissioned them to build him one of these early chargers and. I think what they're doing that they haven't done before is if you think of chargers is a unibody car, this is A. This is a full carbon fibre. Car. This has carbon fibre floorboards. This is this is a carbon fire car and there. That's fantastic. Whether we're doing this one lucky man I cannot wait I. Know also the power plant to were not. It's like we're hush hushing that away the hell I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah and then is it is it stock elephant? At that point? It's got a little something something tuned into it like. I don't know you know it's GonNa be top of the top Docs. It's going to be way over the Oh and the other thing that's interesting is. We spoke to our friend John Eurest at Helen turbos at of New Mexico I believe. We talked to him a few times about what he's doing in the Ford side and on the Dodge side and On the hell side and he's really been touting compound boosting. So, you take your hell cat engine with the supercharge on it. And then also add turbos. Right and one goes into the other. On. On on their system I, believe the TURBOS WOULD BE I. The turbos blow into the super charger because it sits on top of the motor too much closer and what it's doing is if you if you imagine I don't know your hell cat engine. All. The superchargers belt driven. The way they are that eats up some horse power. And it takes power to spin it and to keep it spinning, and if you're making eight hundred horsepower or in your case, you know, well, you're doing with turbos. But if you're making an eight or nine hundred horsepower supercharged engine, I don't know what Uber Charters eating up eighty ninety horsepower, which means you're probably making over a thousand and you're getting to that nine hundred mark. The turbos take off a lot of the load off of that super charger, right so now we have compound boost but also if you think about the twin screw tube, super charger has all of that low end Torque, right? That's the low end toward off the line. That's the equivalent of, of McLaren doing or let's say accurate and a sex doing electric motors for the low end and then. You Turbo on the high end so that turbo lag that you is filled in that gap that turbo lag gap is filled with electric motors compound boosting could be kind of cool. Because now, you've got the low end torque of that super charger before those turbos evening kick in, and then when those bows gets RPM behind them, get some exhaust flowing is taken the load there they're kicking in taking. Word. I want it. Now, they're making Patchett crazy numbers over there. Now you're your charger, they pulled off the super charger they fab up throwing and take manifold going twin turbo, and that is kind of unique. That is pretty special but the guys I brought up Helen because they are working with gearhead fabrications and they are building compound boost systems for for for those guys as well. Figure out what I'M GONNA put it on and I I like. I like that they're doing that because we like the guys that head a lot and we do like the guys that Helena Lot I tell you. Wouldn't be out of the question. Is that Ram trx hell cat engine. We're not looking about weight because it's a big truck and. The the stealth turbo system that they mount down below by the by the collectors by the CALICA murderers twin. Twin turmoil your ex I the ditch. There you go. Great. fabricates for compound boost. See how easy that was. Yeah. That would be so much fun. I needed to connect to Dotson. You did it. Thank. That's the perfect vehicle for compound boost on that vehicle right? Because you've got a little bit of a clearance in. And yeah text of Hey. I WanNa compound boost it let me know he's getting. All right after delivery it was already going to him anyway. But what better vehicle to do that? All right yeah. No I think that's a great vehicle for it. Absolutely. That's a great vehicle for it. Plus Texas I gotTa deal with all the thousand Horsepower Cummins. Yeah. All right, let no you're going to need. You're going to eat some GEICO you're going to. Turn. Right now. GEICO is offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car motorcycle RV policies. That's fifteen percent on top of the money. GEICO could already be saving you. So what are you waiting for? You're never gonNA save money like this. Again, there's never been a better time to switch to GEICO. You'll save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh and I kind of feel like that's right around the time trx's are shipping. So in October row. The you'll be delayed weeks later. All right. Well, you get your insurance ahead of time order it up by October seventh save an extra fifteen percent visit geico dot com to learn more aright you send your tax we're gonNA wrap up here and and. Will tune in next week as we're here. As we're here doing this. My truck was I was driving the truck. It was sputtering a little bit and I thought. Something with the engine. Luckily No. Definitely, the engines tired I hear some noises ticking noises but the. The lightning has to feel tanks a front tank and rear tank. It's more like on the front side and then in the rear. My Front tank fuel pump. went bad. Okay I switched I have a switch on the Dash. Switch to the rear tank drive around. It's fine. But here's the here's the hang up. The fuel pump went bad with a full tank of fuel. Okay and I was like. I'll carry it around for a little while not that big of a deal but this is a return line fuel system. A lot of the modern cars don't have a return line instead they throttle the voltage of the pump. So when you need a little bit of fuel. They bring down the voltage we need more fuel they crank I have a return line the return line on this split to two tanks. So, if you never use. The front tank and the fuel pompous bad. The return line is spitting some fuel back in there. So I'm driving around and I park in a parking garage and I'm with my with my girlfriend like you smell gas she's like this thing always smells like gas and I'm like okay fair enough. And I look and there's gas coming out of fuel coming out of the gas cabinets oozing out of the truck and I'm like I wonder if it's bad gas cap or it's been hot out, here is a pressure thing and then I realized no, my return line is spitting fuel and it's topping off to the tank more than needs to be, and if I flick on the front fuel tank. It starts to sputter and it barely move any fuel. So I can't even do that. So I rolled up this morning to the shop. And I was like get the hand pump and I could sit here and pump that goddamn thing by Hannigan fifteen. Gallons. So what I did is I drove here, my rear tank was basically empty when I got here and I went to the shop at God, bless the guys over there. Talk to Sean and Jose and I said, Hey, man, I didn't get all the fuel from that few front tank to the rear. I've got to go do a podcast. and. They. He's got a shelf there of all these fuel palms and he's like, let me see what I can do so. Grab a few pieces, handed it to Jose. He's like test this pump. So hopefully, as I'm sitting here, those guys do me a favor they just brought out a car battery one of the high end pumps off the race cars like eighteen hundred dollars Bosh. Pom That's GonNa flow mile a minute. And and they just hooked some lines. It's. GOING GONNA stick a hose front tanks goes in the Bhaktapur, Hick battery under that fuel per and suckled all the fuel out and it should be done and. So I'm GONNA move yeah. Also, if I went like if I wanted to drop the tank myself or. Swing by you know maybe Gilpin on sports again and go hey, swap of fuel pump in there they're going to be like great. Make sure the tank is empty before you do that because they don't want to lower all that weight. So of this is where I am swapping. All the fuel from the front to the back because. I don't WanNa swap out the fuel pump right now I don't WanNa go through that because soon as the new engine comes in I'm going to have to drop tanks and do custom fuel pumps in the whole thing anyway, and it's like, I'm gonNA keep throwing money at fixing this Goddamn. On it that's it. So I'm just going to. Drain the front tank and when you know, we'll see how quickly it fills up. I don't think it's going to be real quick. I don't think it's. Again, the return lines not bringing a lot of fuel back into the tank and it's splitting off to two tanks right? So it's it's going to take awhile to fill up that tank. It's not really going to be that that big of a deal. But drive for your BMW Yeah did you see the pictures of the accident? Next Shell BMW's looking good. I'll tell you I'm gonNA listed I know a lot of guys are asking me questions teasing it I kind of shot myself in the foot by even teasing it because everyone's like how many miles how much you want you know thank you. I love the interest for getting some excitement for the car. It looks good. It runs good. But I I don't know why I'm just determined because of all the engine work in everything we've done to it. I, want to be able to sell it to you guys with a dino number I don't care if it's a dino jet or Mustang Dino doesn't matter to me. I. Just one get a dino number for it and tell you guys how much power this thing is making i. think that's the fair thing I just don't want to be the guy that's like I put. Fifty thousand dollars into the engine runs like a beast and. Making all kinds of crazy horse power and then make up a number I want a real number for you guys. So that's what I've been waiting for my buddy raise been super busy with paying clients so he can't get in the door. David. who works on all the Toyota Supra as my buddy over there. Is trying to find some time. On a different dino possibly, but he's either working full-time or tuning the other cars I just gotTa. Get it scheduled and then we'll. We'll put it up there but I wanna get you guys a number I want to come in here. And tell you what that thing is making and then keep dangle the carrot man we know. All right. Let's get the hell out here. Let's wrap it up. Guys. Thank you so much until next time let's keep the air and the spare in the bag of the wheel. My For the latest updates and call in times follow the show on facebook twitter and instagram at car cast show. If you'd like to ride in fill out the FORM ON COMCAST SHOW DOT COM and don't forget to give us a nice rating on I tunes. 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Getting Into the Wholesale Game | Episode 90

Marketing Genius

39:54 min | Last week

Getting Into the Wholesale Game | Episode 90

"Welcome to the client generation. Podcast a show where we interview some of the most successful people real estate to help you understand how to generate leads. Build a brand and convert more clients in your business. I am really excited about my guest today. Got mr david dodge. The come by and just share as much value as humanly possible. And if you get two seconds cisco this man's scream feed you know he's gonna do just that david what's up man. Thanks for coming by a. Hey buddy thanks for having me man. Yeah doing fantastic. Who who's david dodge. Man what's your story. How'd you get today all right. So david dodge is Real estate investor here in saint louis missouri. Where i live. It's where i do most of my investing I am not a real estate agent. I am strictly in investor. I've been working on getting my real estate license for like five years so as it really worked out too. Good for me in terms of getting that license. But it's not necessarily needed if you Are primarily in investor. I i would recommend you get it even though it's coming from somebody that doesn't have it because it can help If you're new in terms of you know being able to run countless your own properties has lots of advantages having it however. I've always had a team of agents around me so it's never necessarily been a sesame to me so i'm an investor like i stated. My market is saint. Louis missouri and i primarily focused on wholesaling properties fixing and flipping properties in last. But not least buying and holding properties. So i have my own podcast. Discount property investor as well as author of the ultimate guide to wholesale in real estate which can be found on amazon audible and What we what we primarily do is we do a lot of marketing. Some of it is paid some of is unpaid and we do our best to generate leads for most dated sellers. That is the name of the game if you are new to real estate investing Finding a motivated seller is the most important thing when it comes to Getting a good deal so from there once we find the motivated seller. We go out and we make them an offer on the property. We don't do anything. Virtual everything that my company myself. My team does is local. We like to meet the homeowner the seller and you know make them an offer walk the property and give them a couple of options. Those options are basically a. We want to give you a cash offer. We wanna buy this house. We wanna make it easy The name of our company is how sold easy we stand by that we wanna make it really really easy for our customers. So what does that mean. Well really what that means. Is that we trade convenience for discount. That's really it's that simple guys. No reason to overcomplicate this. So a the first thing that we do when we go out as we say we want to be the buyer okay. Here's what we're willing to pay now. We realize that this is going to be a discounted A discounted offer as investors. We don't pay retail. We have to get a discount on the property however in return for the discount that the seller owner will provide us. We will buy the property with cash. So there won't be contingencies on. We will have very limited inspections typically me or my partners will do the inspections every may send over a very rare that we hire a company and give us a seventy five age or you just kind of walk through an do those our own and we can close fast so cash as is an fast so again we are providing speed we are providing liquidity another way to look at it as we are trading convenience for a discount. I mentioned earlier. We don't pay retail okay. So option eh that we give all of our all of our leads that come in and assuming that most of these are motivated sellers is. We want to buy it option. B. is is if you don't like that offer We get it. you know. we're not in the business of green retail but we can also help you sell that house with our traditional brokerage. So we can. We have agents that we work with that. We can help list but our goal is not to get listings. That's not our goal We have that tool in our belt. And again i recommend that if you are a real estate investing you get your license. You can also have that tool in your belt. But our primary objective is to buy properties at a discount direct from the cellar so we can Again permits to them and get a discount for us and then what we do with those properties after we buy those properties is is what i stated earlier we will either wholesale those properties for profit ole zona in fix them up and flip them on the retail market for a larger profit or last. But not least we will Fixed that property up rented out refinance it and then repeat that process. If you're not familiar with that that's that we use the birth strategy to acquire are rental. Properties is awesome man. Thanks for going into detail on all the different strategies that you guys have But i want to touch on something that you said and something. That's kind of a basis. The show right marketing is important. Thing and finding motivated sellers is really the art Kind the secret art to investing person that can find the most motivated sellers wins. The most deals right so tell me about me. And how how do you guys go about finding your best deals. What are some of your best strategies. It's a great question so we at this point we've been in business for a little over three years. I've been doing this fulltime. And when i say doing this real estate investing or about five. So at this point we probably get about a quarter of our of our leads from referrals. You know last year we bought Almost one hundred houses In twenty nineteen. I believe the number was somewhere around ninety six ninety seven in twenty eighteen. We bought ninety eight houses. So we we've been teetering with that hundred house a year or just for the last two years and because of that we've kinda built a little bit of of a name within our own marketplace or the guys that can close fast now again. We don't pay retail where we're not. The guys can close fast on one hundred thousand dollar house that sellers asking one hundred dollars nor offers going to be sixty five care but if they are motivated if there is a reason that they need to sell big difference here guys if you're new to real estate investing if somebody calls me and they want to sell i say okay. Great wealth got a couple of agents. That i'd be happy to refer you to. I don't. I don't even really move toward all that much because the word that they chose as once people that i am looking for are those that need to sell and i'm more than happy to educate people when they call when the leads come in is that we not pay retail. That is one of the first things. I tell people whenever i answered the phone when i called him back. Hey i'm dave on with sold easy. I appreciate you contacting me or one of our forms. Just to be frank with you though. I would be more than happy to help any way i can. However if i am going to be the purchaser of this house. I need to get a deal on. I don't pay retail. I make that very clear. I even say just like i said it's a you grant when i'm talking to a seller because i want to set the precedent with them. I wanna make it very known that. I am here to help solve problems. I am not here to you. Know pat someone else's pockets so if they want to sell their home. That's great however i don't need to buy and i make that clear so when i say i almost bought one hundred houses and twenty nineteen in another almost one hundred twenty eighteen. I didn't need any of those not a single one of those approximately two hundred houses every one of those houses. I bought because somebody else needed to sell. It was a win win scenario. Of course i gotta deal. That's i'm i'm the discount property investor. I don't pay retail. However i solved the problem for these people for whatever reason that might be so we got two things here i. How do you define motivation if you could just so that we can because obviously there's the sesame yourselves somebody in wadi greater retail markets. We've been in a long time. How do you define motivations fast. That's a great question. Motivation comes in many different shapes and sizes in so and so port so to me. Motivation is defined in a simple way. Is somebody that needs to sell not wants to sell now. We were to break that down again. A little bit more granular. What does that look like. Well it looks like somebody that's for job. It looks like somebody that is going to prison. It looks like somebody that is getting a divorce. It looks like somebody that has a disease and you need money for medical bills in. They're willing to downsize or sell their home to get that cash. It looks like somebody that is either having kids or the kids are leaving right so they need to up size of the downsize. It looks like somebody that is selling their home because they're elderly and they're moving into a nursing home or moving in with their children. It looks like somebody. That's a hoarder that is embarrassed to hire a real estate agent and show that property to multiple people for many many weeks and or months. Okay looks like somebody that is looking for convenience and again that is really what i like to tell my students Full about wholesaling how to find motivated sellers and how to market to them in that is that we are here to provide convenience to these people hash as is quick. I mean that is the simplest. The simplest form what i provide that is my service to the marketplace. Now by providing cash in buying in and being able to close cast. Those are the services but at the end of the day on my goal is to solve a problem for these motivated sellers so a lot of people. That aren't familiar with wholesaling. They're not familiar with you. Know how we do our marketing the best thing. They may have in the beginning most times. They may have a negative connotation of you know. We're just trying to buy houses from people at any. On the dollar we are trying to steal these properties from people and that is just truly not the case now. Of course they're scenarios people will give us houses. It has happened. He's houses are typically houses that you don't want right but what. I'm trying to get to the point that i'm trying to make here. Is you know anywhere between twenty and fifty percent of the time when we go to a closing and we buy property from a motivated seller. They know that they are leaving money on the table. They know they are giving us a property discount. But they don't care. Reason is is because the problem isn't selling the property. The problem is something else. The solution is selling the property so they can take those proceeds to fix. What else in their life is going haywire. Okay so a motivated seller really looks like two things. I mentioned a lot of scenarios or a lot of examples. You know a couple of minutes ago but really a motivated seller is somebody that themself is are distressed so they are distressed or they own a property maybe willingly or unwillingly and lot of times. It's inherited at the property is distressed property. That's distressed typically not always but you would assume that the owner of that property is willing to sell it at a discount. Because they don't want to deal with the they haven't fixed it up yet. Why would they go all of a sudden it fixed up next week. Other scenario is that they themselves are distressed. Divorce disease are typically the three things that i like to mention. That would cause some buddy to be distressed so the best deals in my business are the ones where the people are distressed but so are the properties because it makes it very easy for me to help them solve a problem. One of the things. I love about your message. You're talking about what keeps coming to. My mind is that you're talking about creating space for yourself with with your authenticity with your honesty in any conversation in any bit of marketing. Hey we are You know discount property investors. We are not here to give you full price. We're here to get a deal on a property and one of the things that very clear one of the things that most investors don't do is that they try to weasel them wear their way into a conversation with somebody. To in my opinion of opinion based on the law treated make people feel like they kind of invading switched where they've been baited into this potential Grand thing and then you know the reality is. They're giving what they feel like quarterback screwed on whatever their property value might be and so i loved the honesty. Transparency owner things keeps coming mind. It sounds like you're just creating space so that everybody knows it no. It's not a secret. That what when i say creating space. You're giving yourself the bandwidth to focus on the people that are ready to do it right now because everybody knows the only reason i'm coming to david is because i want to sell so fast. I know it's coming discount. I don't care need to move. Why why is the second question is did you always do that. And it just works so well did you find out authenticity were or did you re. That's a great question. So i'm going to answer that in a couple of different ways but that is actually a very good question that i don't get asked that often and i feel like people discount. I like that word. Of course right. The people discount that it when they really shouldn't because a lot of people that i talked to a lot of my students. They struggle with this until they can flip their mindset on this right so let's take a minute and dive into this a bit saga great question by the way fantastic question. So when i first started doing real estate. I've been invested in real estate. Fifteen years right. The i ten was very passive. I was buying properties on the mls paying retail. I was basically getting eighty percent loans and put down twenty percents to me. It was more of a vehicle to store It was it was a vehicle to invest but also a to store mike cash in in asset. I was getting regular loans. Well about five years ago. I decided. Hey i'm tired of having jobs. And i'm pretty good at at this whole negotiating finding these sellers. Let's jump in full-time in for the first. Let's say one to two years. I didn't have the transparency of approach. i was. Oh hey. I'm a cash buyer. Which really meant i'm gonna find an investor partner who's cash buyer and. I'm going to do everything i can to get this deal. Sold and a lot of times the deal would fall apart. You know people would get upset. And i just. I don't know why. But i kind of had an epiphany about three years ago and i just said you know what i'm gonna just go with the transparency approach. I'm gonna tell people. Hey i am a cash buyer. If i can get a really great deal. If if the deal isn't great but let's say it's good will then. I am going to try to find another cash buyer in my marketplace to partner with so i'd actually separate myself as being the cash buyer again if it was great. Then that's me. I'm all over it if it's not the greatest deal but let's say there's still some meat on the bone. I started to take the approach of. Hey you know. I'm not the cash buyer in this scenario unless you can come down. Let's say twenty grand. However i know a ton of other investors that i partner with all the time. I'm gonna go work. I'm going to get one of these guys to partner with me because again. The deals not great. But it's good and we're going to get this done and what started happening is people wouldn't get upset when call him back in two or three weeks and say hey. I am so incredibly. Sorry but. I can't find that person i told you from the get go. That was my intention. So you really can't get too upset me because i didn't mislead you and i'm not saying i was misleading people. In the beginning. I just had a different approach. Now i like to let people know every scenario the beginning so if you give me that great deal which often happens often. It's it starts at a good deal and we're shopping. The property trained to wholesale it. They get frustrated not with me but with their own situation and they can you just by this gives you the discount boom done or close next week right and that's where the motivation comes in for me the good deal but if i set it up with listen this is what we're gonna do. We are going to try to partner with another investor even find that other investors. You don't have to pay us up. Sell them or charge them. Be and we're gonna get this done for you and it doesn't happen. I've told them in the beginning of that's the goal. That's where we're trying to do with this so again by just being transparent it helps. These individuals understand what is actually happening behind the scenes. So i'm going on a tangent on that. Let me just say one more thing real quick graham. I've done everything in my power to let all of my teacher all by students to have the same exact approach. And i'll tell you right now that almost every single one of them has success with this approach or more success i should say then the approach of im the cash buyer. Okay reason is because when you go into a situation in your trance parents you tell people. I don't tell them that. I'm going to be marketing. That property in using the term. Wholesaling say i'm gonna go find an investor partner. If they ask. I'll tell them anything they want. They ask the right questions. They're going to get the right answer. So i'm not misleading. But i am letting them know that. There is a possibility that it won't close or that. You know that the inspection period may need some renegotiations or even extensions because from the get go from the beginning. I make it clear to them that these are my intentions. Think it's so key in marketing today. Because you see that you know. There's there's this about five six years ago. there's this gigantic authentic shift that took place in marketing where you know the perceptive nature of doing business kind of disappeared for a while at least in some of the top producing companies and they started to embrace this idea that if we're just honest with people get more business which is good. That's a great shift to happen but to see it. Take place in the investment space like you're doing is really a breath of fresh air because so few investors do that. They're trying to just do anything that they can to get. Now i'm not gonna. I'm not gonna over generalize. Investors a lot of the top level wholesalers. And the reason. I ask that question. They asked it. I think that it was more than likely a function of. I don't have time. So now i'm going to be honest like i'm just i'm just way too busy. Let's just being honest with everybody because we don't have time to look at all these maybe deals. So now we're going to say we are discount buyers or discount buyers properties etcetera etcetera says. Mike curiosity was you know. How did you segue into that truth and transparency. But it sounds like doing that. And then you're now leading more investors just to do it right off the bat it really shortens. That got where they've space for themselves now. They can just focus on the people that that are ready to go right now. So last question. Excuse me last question is how how do we get myself to that point from a marketing standpoint. I realized that's where i got to do most my work. But if i'm creating all this space for myself only focus on motivated sellers that ready right now. How do we get to a point where i got an eight hour day focused or communicating with those people. What action should. I take the one two three minute. I'm an investor. I'm ready to go even. That's a great question right. So this cow proper. We have to two main businesses. You're right we have. The acquisition business of my company with is called house sold easy so the discount property investor logo. The tv of the podcast. That's that's not the company that we are actively marketing to our to our motivated sellers house sold The discount property investor brand that we have is the disposition side of the business. Okay so we're not actually marketing to the marketplace that we are discount investors discount property buyers Because again that doesn't have a good ring to it so what we do. Is we market that we are household easy and we stand by that so what we do and what you can do and what anybody listening can do is literally when you were on the phone with these people. Just tell them your intentions. Okay so when i am on the phone. This is my bitch guys. You can copy this. You can share it if this is not a proprietary thing. This is just me having a conversation with another human. They called me up they say. Hey dave i heard your radio advertisement. I got a letter in the mail from you. I was on. Google and i came across your website or i was on i did. I clicked on an ad words or whatever it might be. Typically we do radio mail edwards words And we do a couple of other things as well but those are the the eighty twenty principle. That's eighty percent right there. So when they call and they get me. I answer is say. Hey this is dave with house elise. How can i help you. And they'll say. Hey this is grant wise. And i got this property i stay hey grant. That's great how'd you get my information. How'd you get my number. Did you hear my radio ed. Because that's very bad. Particular ad is very very directed towards. I want the house that is the allow to work. So i'm assuming this house needs a lot of work if you are looking for a retail offer. We can help you with that. We have agents that become list your property but you know as investors. We need to build to buy this property and have enough meat on the bone after we pay for it to make a profit right so we are in business and you aren't familiar. The definition of business is simple. It's the act of making money. That's truly the definition of business. Be act of making money so when we buy property we have to be able to get it at a price we can either sell it as isn't make money on it or get it at a price that we can fix it up and add value but also make money on so if i can't buy this property and make money on it and there's no incentive for me to provide you with convenience right so the end of the day and i'm getting off topic here but at the end of the day i am here to help solve a problem if you want to sell. That isn't a problem so i got an agent. Megan mike whoever else my office. That's more than happy to come out neat. You get this property listed in. Hopefully they can help you sell it. There's no guarantee that they're going to give you get you a certain price. There's no guarantee that it's going to go quick. You're going to have most likely inspections that are gonna lead to seller concessions. You're gonna have all these additional costs were holding and maybe maintenance maybe fix up maybe Closing whatever those things might be so again not a bad strategy to sell your property that way but if if you just want to sell. That's the route. I'm going to try to push you to really. I'm going to try to help. You never tried you know. Push somebody using them that they don't wanna do here. Are your options right. However you sell this next wednesday because you're going to jail for your big teeth. Dwi next thursday. Guess what. I can hope. I'm going to be able to. I want to provide you with that convenience but in trade from me making this convenient for you gotta give me a deal. There is no incentive for me to pay retail zero. So i make this year included people and i don. I try not to be rude. I see people can can look and say oh you know they can come through. Well just slow down a little bit talk softly make a friend with this person but educate them on what your business is. Business isn't buying houses for retail or even a ten percent discount. Typically if i can't get a twenty to twenty five percent discount on the phone verbally with somebody. I won't even set the appointment and what we'll do is we'll add them to our. Crm will follow up with them so my company does anywhere from the number of wholesales has shrunk a little bit because we've started keeping a lot of these properties for our rental portfolio. But i'd say do anywhere from six to ten wholesales among now the average deal that we lack up with the contract and put on the website and start marketing to are buyers. Takes us four to six months from the initial contact. The time we get a contract. Why does it take four to six months. Dave that's going to be the next question. Well it's very simple. Why you know deals come in that we we lock up. They weren't all the time right but on average people will call us because they want. They don't need to sell so what we do. Then as we educate them on their options we can give you an offer in this price range or we can help you sell it. Be an agent. But there's no guarantees with the agent. It's long it's linked the it's costly and there's no guarantees and what happens. Is people say okay. You know sending agent out. Maybe let's talk or yeah. I was really just looking for a cash offer. But i wanted reach other tire kickers right so what we do. Is we foul up with these people every week every other week. Maybe once a month some people we would have on a yearly follow-up right and what we do is we contact back and say. Hey we're not trying to bother you. You had reached out to us a couple of weeks couple months ago. We just wanted to follow up to see if anything has changed. That's our message on our file. Has anything changed to where all the sudden you no longer oneself. But you need to sell again. That's where i come in. So one of my buddies said this to me couple years back and it has just stuck but he was so true. I never thought of it this way. But as a non talking about wholesale not investing here but a whole as a wholesaler. All we really do is provide liquidity to the marketplace. And i thought about that might mean that his genius because those exactly what we do. I will buy any house in saint louis any house for the right price. I don't need to buy any house right but for the right price. Somebody can come to me. And i will buy that house. I don't care if the things on fire literally when they call me. If i can get the right price for it. I will buy it so again. I'm trading convenience for a discount. I'm providing the quality to the marketplace. And i try to be as transparent as i possibly can on my intentions. Which are i can help you solve a problem. But if you call me and you don't have a problem grant. Let's just say that you have a house. That's worth two hundred and seventy five grand and disaster. It is a hundred and seventy five grand. And you're looking for a hundred and seventy five grand. Guess what. I can help maybe help you. That by listing it. But if you want me to be the buyer which is what all my advertising marketing says. Is you know we will buy your house. Cash as is quickly we will but not at one seventy five. It's gonna be you know one hundred to one twenty five one thirty somewhere so as all of your marketing and advertising religious basically whatever your core messages here that you know your your discount or home sold fast. Is it all really just radio. Mailers social is all of that. Really just around. That was home fast message or will buy arm fast messages. And that's what's getting the phone ringing absolutely again. We don't want so like. I'm glad you asked that because there is a there's a couple real estate agents in saint louis and they're good people you know nothing nothing negative to say but their messages. Hey call us will list your home in if we don't sell it you know. Vr traditional brokerage services will buy it. Okay and and you. There's lots of people nationwide worldwide that are using that marketing strategy we'll listed and if we don't sell it will buy. We'll guess what they do if they have to buy their pay forty. Could you send some a dollar. They don't want that home. Turn around and may listed at a big discount and they sell it that way. My message is the exact opposite. I don't want people calling me because they wanna list properties. That's a tool in my belt right. It's it's a service that i can provide to these people. Throw those leads away but the message is is that i am here to buy houses and provide the convenience said this a couple times. Now i wanna make it easy for you. But i'm not doing it at a loss and i'm most definitely not doing that a break even right. I have to buy this the pro at a discount to be able to make a profit so our message is we buy houses. We make it easy in our company is house sold easy so again we stand by the fact that we make it easy. That makes a lot of sense. I had a question that i was. I was gonna ask you got up here but the question was the first of all. What was your message which you just answered that. Okay yes i'm coming to you. David frum bootstrap to success. What step one for me in finding motivated sellers skip that part. You're absolutely right so What we do is we target those who we won't Assume good like. Take me back to when you started. He had no money no budget and then he started getting some money. Like what did you start with or what would you. What would you tell somebody to start with today. Didn't have any money to find these deals. And then what should investing. I wanna get simon. How should they go that budget so take me back to the to the good old days. Perfect i'm gonna. I'm gonna circle back to that real quick but are so. Yeah that's a great question. Our message is that we can provide convenience but what we do. Is we target those. That would that that anybody that has half a brain would would assume when have motivation. Not all these people that were targeting have motivation to sell. But we are assuming that they do. So what does that look like what. It looks like the people that i mentioned earlier. That divorce disease also the that the disease are the distressed people so you can also look for the distress properties. What does the distress property. Look like it looks like a vacant house. It looks like an absentee owner again. Not all of the stress. But you would presume or assume that these properties could have that level of motivation. Vacant high equities high equity mixed with absentee owned trefor closures. We do a lot of driving for dollars and we look for tall grass. Big bushes gutters falling off houses. Boarded up windows. Okay those would be some of the reasons why the property itself would would be distressed in again. You presume motivation so to circle back nardo what you said in the beginning. What i did was and we still do we. I did a lot of science put on a ton abandoned signs not not only in the in the bad areas but in the good areas too because typically the people that own the houses in the bad areas that don't live live in the good areas so bad at signs can go anywhere and everywhere so did a lot of signs. In the beginning. I did a ton of cold calling. We still do cold calling me. But i did a ton of myself personally. So how do you do that. It's so simple. Go on craigslist. Go on zillow go on facebook marketplace and find the people that are that have houses at. They're looking to rent. Calm up and ask them. If they have any desire or need to sell keyword there is need right and a lot of them are going to say. No but you know you make two or three hundred phone calls. You're going to find somebody that's like. Oh yeah i'm so happy you called. I'm actually just trying to rent it because you know it needs a lot of work and i don't think that i would be able to sell it in its current condition. You say okay. Well you know. I like buying houses that need a lot of work. And i come see it make you an offer so those will be the people that haven't for rent or the for sale by owners. Call those people up. You'd be cold call. You can call the tax and again. Just ask that simple question. Hey are you interested in a cash. Offer don't typically pay retail however i'm cash. I buy like you close really really fast. And even if you can't close in a week or two if can close in a month guys in in the big scheme of things like in perspective. That is very fast. Compared to the traditional real estate row the traditional real estate realm property Let let's start from the beginning just real quick. You want to sell you hire an agent. Will they come out. They get information they take pictures. That may take a week or two before they can even get the damn thing listed whom they get it listed. You wanted to sell quickly but oftentimes it doesn't. It could sit for weeks even months before you get an offer then when you get an offer. They get inspections. They have an appraisal long story short. The entire process takes two to three months. Typically on the on the short end of the stick it could take six months to a year two years in some cases right so you can close a deal in a month. That is extremely fast compared to the alternative. So don't think that you have to go on with the message. I can close next. Tuesday like like nine is i have. I have a lot of experience. I have a lot of private lenders. I have the ability to do so. But when i first started. I didn't see you don't necessarily have to think that saying that. You can close in two three. Maybe even four weeks is long. That is extremely fast so again. If you're starting out doing you want to get involved in this business you need to learn how to target motivated sellers so that can look one or two ways. It can be a distress person. That can be a distressed property. If you find both then you typically have a deal because if somebody themself is distressed and they own a property that's distressed and there's some equity in the property you can trade them your convenience or a discount which ultimately leads to you have a wholesale property you can fix up and saw for a profit or property that you can fix up and ran out or sometimes you don't even need to fix it up you can rent it right out so lots of different ways that you can go about doing that But again if you are on a shoestring budget or good strapping. You don't have to have thousands of dollars a month to hire a radio station. Throw ads out there on the radio. You don't have to have thousands of dollars a month to drop. You know tons and tons of postcard or direct mail. These strategies work. Okay so once you build up some money from doing some deals. I would highly recommend that you put those dollars into marketing. But if you don't have the money in the beginning that's okay. There's two ways to do marketing to different types of budgets. One is money you can buy your marketing. The other is energy. Okay so if you don't have a big budget for marketing than you need to create a budget of time. Or what does that look like an hour or two a day four to six hours on the weekend something you have to dedicate and allocate time to do the marketing so calling people on craigslist or facebook or Zillow doesn't cost you anything unless you don't have unlimited plan on your phone but the twenty twenty you should right so you can call these people in just make. A friend asked him if they're willing to sell. It doesn't cost you anything but once you start doing some deals and you get tired of cold calling me. I ate cole collins. I don't do it anymore. Real people on the team. That do but what what i prefer to do. Instead is the get these people to call me okay. So it's hunting and fishing. You gotta monetary budget. You have a time budget. Your monetary budget is fishing. Look at it like this. If i'm at a lake right. And i'm sitting next to grant a grant scout won- fishing pole orca. I have ten thousand fishing poles. And i throw my fishing pole in the water. And it's got a bobber and put it in the ground. And then i go to the next one an hour and a half goes by. I'm going to have a few hundred lines in the water. He's going to have walked right. It's going to cost me money by sending letters or messages by marketing message. But that's my monetary budget the other way to go about. It is having a budget. And i refer to that as hunting okay. You don't need more than one gun to go hunting or knife for bo. Whatever it might be but it's going to take energy you're going to get off your butt. You get out in the woods and start looking for that thing that you're going to hunt in this scenario. That is motivated celsius. Pick up the phone and make those calls best analogy. I've heard to differentiate paid media versus organic media. I really really appreciate that on us. That money give you. Try to get as many grandpa's boss. we can. David thank you so much for coming on the show. This has been really really really helpful and insightful. I got some great takeaways than two things. I think that even i could implement wholesaler. So this is usually. It's usually valuable. So i appreciate it brother. What's the best way we could payback connecting to you. Do you have any practices we can buy into. What's what's the scoop. Yeah just check out an instagram guys. I'm always. I'm always trying to teach in add value to people that are looking to learn how to buy properties at discount wholesale rentals fixing flippy. You name it I have a free course. But i'm not even going to plug that I talk about it all the time on my on my instagram. Check me out. My handle is david. How in dodge in my middle name is a l. a. n. It's just my full name. David allen dodge and i really appreciate you having me on appreciate your time so thank you for having thank you for listening to this episode of the client generation. Podcast us make sure that you rate and review this episode so that we can continue to bring you more. Incredible gas helped him grow your business. Thanks and an amazing day.

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SUSCAST - #015 Ateno Primria Sade

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BMW M3 on the Dyno + The Lucid Air

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57:34 min | 4 months ago

BMW M3 on the Dyno + The Lucid Air

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Hey guys welcome to car cast Matt to Motor Energy Andrew here with Bill Goldberg. How are you? Good man doing good and yourself doing. All right. You know we are. Getting Ready we're we're recording a little bit earlier this week, we're getting on a plane admiral getting out head out to the to the Z.. Prototype event, we're going to be doing car cast live at Z. Con. Unfortunately by time you hear this already have happened. So hopefully, there's some exciting news about the Z car. that the newsy that's coming out. We have a little bit of information of what we think it is. So he can play a little bit of a game of what we think it is, versus by time you hear us what it really is real quick before we get started a shout out from our friends at. Time Dodge power dollars, and that means for each horsepower. You get ten dollars off your purchase on dodge charger challenger and Durango to come on in for Dodge powered dollars today for pretty sweet deal. I'm kind of excited about the Z car because. It seems like they're trying to. Keep the enthusiasts than mind let let's let's face it like it's a cool car. It's not going to sell like a Nissan Pathfinder were the rogue or something. It's not going to be a huge moneymaker for them. It's not a halo car like a Gtri, but it needs to sort of fit in because it's such a legacy car and because of that, they can build it for enthusiasts. So in a world of. Of DC T. transmissions paddle shifts, all wheel drive, and all that crazy stuff. What we believe to know about these e is three liter turbocharged V six probably upwards of four hundred or more horsepower rear wheel drive optional six feet transmission, and this is important a proper manual like E. Brake lever no electric break. So if you WANNA hit the track or anything to do of drifting, you can pull it break. Futz around with some sort of electric something or other. Bring in an extra ten percent just because of the novel. I know people can be a hey, it's old school. It's GonNa. Manual transmission in you know we're GonNa love that it's rear wheel drive I know the oil drive car today. Some of them have a drift mode or there some sort of configuration where he can play almost all of the power to the rear and he relief to with fine but also. This is arguably a way for them to make the car more pure for the enthusiast and save some money in the process. Right without a whole all wheel drive system I don't think it'd be kind of fun. Of You know the fiftieth anniversaries, e car that came out I think like two years ago. They did silver black and they did the red and white versions that look like the. Racing car say only did fifty of those. Cars and Peop- Brock who we know we lobbed designed the shelby coupe and did all the cars. I was at the New York auto show a couple of years ago to to interview brock and And the guy from Nissan. And they debuted that car so i. Got Off the stage walked over to the guys ago. Yeah. We need one of these while we're here and I didn't even really talk down about a time. I called him on the way home on the flight based on the way to the airport and I said. He's like how's he bet said it's great I said, also you just bought a Z car so. And he's like, okay So we got one of the red and white one of the fifty limited edition. Cars and you know it just kind of like at the. into long in the tooth disea- you know it's one of the last ones out there, but it fits in the collection very well, and then we had brought come back over to visit and signed the Dash, and stuff and. He's well into his eighties. And put a great guy. He could be one of the next documentaries we do as well when you think about that guy's history of. God. You know there was a there was a point after. Point after shelby. Computers. beeping. There's a point after shelby. When he did to be already stopped he also Within the hang gliding and he had a son who died while hang gliding with the crazy part is, is the son was like twelve years? Old Enemies already won like one of the best hang gliders out there and he got kind of just a world like a spin and crazy thing like they'll do this hang gliding for distance and there's like checkpoints in new stop but they'll go like from San Francisco to La. Though. becks. And flying in the air is that like that's kind of a kind of a nutty. Nutty thing these to do down in San Diego and I saw a guy take off and then get slammed back into the rocks and I said you don't want I think that's something I've never got them so yeah. I couldn't imagine going for any distance. Yeah, it's. It's pretty crazy but it's a great. pizza good friend, we have his era vault trailer You guys listen to the show without him know all of this already. But we're excited to go out to the Z. event Now that we got a little bit of a Teaser, I like to really know what the real car is going to be. We're only a day away from that. So we're going to be doing card tasks, lives there. Hopefully, you guys were there to see it. And reveal streaming online hopefully, you guys watched out his. I, love to see that thing. I think it's going to be at least four, hundred horsepower. I think a good get close to four fifty. The idea that it's turbocharged. Probably leaves the the window open for a hell of a lot of mods like there's already countless mods for the currency, but it's naturally aspirated. There are turbo kits and supercharging kits. But I think this is a kind of kind of interesting to do that. I think it's largely based off of infinity's I q sixty platform, but in I don't think that car's all wheel drive as an optional all wheel drive by. And that's four hundred horsepower. So I think this should should get into that range but. anyway that's what's going on. In the world of of supercars have you seen Maserati getting back in with the end of the zero sixty three seconds absolutely two hundred. Grand, West. If you're familiar with the MC twelve, I liked the EMC twelve right that was sort of their version of. The End Zone I believe. The. Very, similar. I thought it had a few styling cues that even were a little nicer than the Enzo. It was very limited production, and now those cars are really starting to move in auction but it was funny because just a few years ago granted they were still like I don't know four hundred grand or something, but you look at NGOs going for. A one point two million. And these cars go in for half that you're like, why are people picking up the seats well I know. Maserati history with quality has always been best. Quality, you know what they're designed has always been good. The grand charisma is a good looking car. The even suv the Labontes is pretty nice looking I just drove the Levante Trofeo with. Eight. Is a real hot SUV version. On that thing was fast so. MASERATI is coming out now with this MC twenty, this is the new supercar from them. It's mid engine rear mid six, hundred, twenty, one horsepower obviously in a sports car crash it's not like a two plus two like a Lotus of aura. And it's interesting in that. It's it's not small. The photos look kind of small, but it's one hundred and eighty four inches long. Lamborghini Eric Kahn one hundred and seventy six inches. Grew it threw me off. It looks like a MC twelve that after a crash test yeah. It does it looks like a shorter version but also the new Corvette C eight is very misleading. That's a big car as well and it looks kind of small This cars coming in at thirty three, hundred pounds thirty, three, oh six a Lamborghini is thirty, four, twenty three. So this is over one hundred, twenty pounds lighter. It's a little bit bigger. It weighs a little bit more insignificantly bigger than the Porsche Cayman but not by a massive margin and If you like the design of this MC twenty then you're going to like what's going on with Maserati now because. Like a halo car, the design treatments from this or supposed to now trickle down to the rest of the lineup I believe there's a new grant rismano. Coming out. That's going have some of these styling cues on it, which is going to be It's going to be interesting. So the MC twelve was three Liter v six got a pair of of two turbochargers Six. Hundred Twenty one horsepower at seventy, five, hundred RPM, five hundred and thirty eight pound few Torque is solid at three thousand. RPM. It's pretty low in the in the in the. In the RPM lineup it's You know it's two spark plugs per cylinder, skied dry sump oiling on Scott both direction junction and an indirect just conventional injection, which by the way is a good thing to have because direct injections very difficult to modify it such a high pressure pump if you. Stop lamented with regular injection and you WANNA, go and modify the car. You add more fuel to the regular Jesse right ask guys like and felt there. About that because he's been working with corvette direct injection and adding injectors in and try to be the direct injection pump and doing things like that. But. Also, this will be a dual clutch automatic it's going to be eight speeds can have a limited slip. And you're right. Maserati is claiming zero to sixty two in two point nine seconds. It'll do one, hundred, twenty miles an hour, eight point, eight seconds, and it has a two zero, two, mile an hour top speed, and when they designed the the emcee twenty, they did design it with racing and mind at a convertible in mind. So all of that basically ben accounted for ahead of time and I do want to go back to racing with with this car. So although the streetcars is out now the Ford Gt. and I think corvettes ca to some extent. Those, cars came out announced. And then they started racing before the Streetcar Came Out I. I. Don't know in the streetcars going to be available in relation to race cars will be on the track, but racing is part of what they do want to do with this car. Now, we have this conversation earlier, but since the deal with Ferrari in the engines has since passed is this in-house. You don't that. That's a good question. I. Don't know exactly where this is coming from but let's think about this does Ferrari have six yet save doing turbo V8's and naturally aspirated twelve. I don't think I don't know that they love I think this might be maserati engine because the What see the. The MASERATI v Eight. is a Ferrari built engine Maserati designed for Ferrari built and even that suv the the. The Tra fail the hot version with the V. eight engine. That's that's similar. That's a Maserati designed for already built engine but I don't know if that's going to continue I. Think they need to do stuff on their own? You know and the. One thing that really trying to get out here, this car is not meant to be. A stripped down version it's going to have all the latest technology everything from car play and and and and whatnot that you know an android auto and all the. Stuff they want you to be able to drive the car. You really have to compete now with Ferrari's Lamborghini's and and all of the you know porsches and and people want to be able to get into these cars use them. Like I think it's a good looking car I think this. Exciting package. I'm curious to see who their who their competition who they're going after who their job to come in under the you know the the GT. McLaren. Different animal US same price point, but it's a different animal. So well, I don't know that the actual pricing is out there. So is this coming in at Lamborghini ERC on prices or is this coming in? Lincoln's less than that little over two hundred. Yeah I think I think that's what it's meant to be somewhere in that range. So this isn't really McLaren seven twenty prime. This is only this is my. Rain. Yeah. Yeah It looks it looks cool. I think the designers cool this. Design style of the low mounted Grill and the sweat back integrated led headlights. Those are some of the design cues you're gonNA start to see appear across the the Maserati lineup and Maserati is coming out with a whole new lineup of cars they're refreshing the entire lineup. So exciting time for him. This curve I think he was gonNA create some serious. Talk for sure I can't wait to see it. I went to drive if I could fit. This is one way to do it because it's His cars looking pretty good but Anyway speaking of of McLaren. If. If you're making some pretty good money these days and you're looking for a little investment. Maclaren Scotland for you. To of sixty three or something. It's it's it's two hundred million. Pounds right it's. as we know McLaren is is been hit kind of hard with with this pandemic on we knew that before we announced a couple of months ago, they were laying off twelve hundred people. To give you an idea AUTOMOTIVE SALES ARE STREETCAR sales from February to May of the series dropped to three hundred, seven cars. That's how many they sold during those several months. A year ago they sold nine, hundred, fifty, three so. They're they're literally at one third amount of sales. They did around a fundraising from. You know basic got a loan from a bank or a hundred and eighty, five million. That's certainly going to help them. We talked to one point about them using their museum and stuff as collateral, which is probably how they secured one, hundred, eighty, five, million, dollar. Long relation one step further. One step further is they're taking their entire world headquarters, this beautiful facility manufacturing design, the technology's center. And it's out for sale e combined the entire McLaren headquarters. It's two hundred, million pounds. It's got two, hundred, fifty, six, million dollars. Of course there's one condition is you have to lease it back to them. But But I don't know it just seems like I. It. It's kind of crazy because. If you think of. The world's. You think of the Forbes four hundred you know they're billionaires by the way. There are so many billionaires now that. You're not automatically on the list at Forbes Forbes listed building I. Think it's four hundred. Billion if you're worth a billion or two I think now the threshold is like two point five or two point seven just to get on. So. There are. More than enough people I'm not. Talking companies or trust or holding companies. There are more than enough individuals out there that could go in and buy this place You know it's not a hostile takeover sell anybody they have the right configuration. But. A little bit of fun with it like you don't WanNa. You. Don't WanNA. Shit. On the legacy of McLaren you want to buy something special and help the company and owned the property at least it back to them. But I think was sort of temporarily you could run around rounded change a few signs here and there procure face off and. You know like I don't know if those billionaires you speak over people that would want to do that. Well, you need a billion over the sense of humor. You know. kind of walk in and I just going to change the color of everything and I'm just GONNA put my face up everywhere and then I just have a little bit of fun with it. Sort of Willy Wonka inch. But. Those over McLaren I don't know how much sunbaked let. The. Guys at this point there I know the rules stipulate if you WANNA buy it. I you would lease it back to them, and then they probably have a right of first refusal to to buy it back or do some sort of payment over time with. Either, some built in amount of interest or. At Fair market value at some point like. Like at least get a really cool one off, right well, that would be kind of thing that I k yeah. We're going to buy your place, but for the two hundred and fifty, six, million, I'm willing to pay full sticker price but this isn't gonNA come without. A Car Or something line to that right 'cause that car could end up. You know. It would cost them. Don't know three million to make it and who knows in years from now for does anything like McClellan? Lauren. Long like. You could just say, Hey, yeah, this is this is the new McLaren. F One owners car, and you know down the road, it's worth eighteen million dollars and I know you dropped two, hundred, fifty, six, million by the place in the rights to build that car. But adenoid just kind of Nice. Knowing that you got the car is part of the deal and it's worth millions later up. Sure. They'll make more money selling the facility at some point back to McLaren but. Say though that there's at least one billion out there with a great sense of human. It would be right. Yeah. Not Make that part of the. We're GONNA ANITA CAR I'm GONNA need a car to drive for a little while while while you're doing this and I like if you look at the photos of the place, the museum is there are the photos are fantastic planning. It's not a shoddy buildings by any means right like the place is amazing I've never been there but it just looks fantastic I'd love to go so. Save up your ducats because you might. It yourself. A McLaren headquarters now I I didn't send this to you in in our little. Preamble our discussion of notes ahead of time. but we've been talking about because this came out this morning. We've been talking about the Ford Bronco, it has the various. Trim Levels Bronco. First Edition and Badlands and all that stuff but we've known that. It's largely based on a Ford Raptor Platform Story of Ford Ranger Platform and there's Ranger Raptors. In Australia and other parts of the world and. Because of that, we know what that truck looks like. We know what the undercarriage of that looks like. So we have here. from Ford A. Picture of the Chassis and suspension with no body on it it's a studio photo because they're saying, hey, raptor this is what you're. GonNa get. Well. Now, we have spy photos of a raptor rolling around Detroit and spy photos or kind of because it trucks lifted are kind of underneath and you see the same exact acts. All the same exact shock mounts coil lowers Stepan Panhard. Bar and you Thanksgiving's birth we're getting this is this is Bronco Raptor. Palko Raptors rolling around. The streets of of Michigan I believe so It's it's. I don't have the full specs on it but. I I believe it's going to end up being. Maybe not quite as aggressive as arranger raptor with the full wide track but very, very close I. It's it's it's going to be. I, I think the Bronco Wild track that's out. There is sixty six point, nine inches wide the track that's less than half an inch than a raptor already. So a point, four inches. So already the Bronco. Is Is, is GonNa be a pretty robust off road vehicle. I don't know if the engines going to change for a for a Bronco Raptor but. But it looks Kinda. Bad, ass. Can tell you that it looks it looks bad ass this coming. On the heel of. The the the Ford Raptor the next Ford. Raptor. Rumors with the GT five hundred engine in it, which were starting to see, sorry, my my life died I'm used in a light now it's it's als- pipe. Pretty. Cool stuff. That coming out and then let's see we've also got. We've also got. The Lucid air you guys seen this. Some land because I'm saying I mean the best for last. The best for last is my BMW on the diner but I wanna get your get your stuff. Finally have something. To. Yeah. We're GONNA we're. GonNa do that but. I'm looking at my my screen up here and amusing to screens today because we're getting on a plane soon. Elusive good-looking car. Well, here's the deal. Loose it is is actually a company where the name has popped up a few times. We didn't really know for sure if this company was coming or going with so many electric car companies and startup a car companies struggling with fundraising. But you know that the head of Lucid is is a former Lotus in Jaguar engineer and he was at Tesla's well and he worked on the less the first version of the Model S. so. Somebody with a little bit of of background here. Not just the money guy the guy in charge. Is. Seems, to know what he's doing. So a lucid announce their. Lucid air. It's it's a pretty a pretty large said they on. I believe it's GonNa be larger than a model. It has quite a bit of room in it. They claim to have the most cargo space. Well, the largest franck their front trunk is is going to be the largest of the segment with nine point, nine cubic feet of space. I think the the rear trunk sixteen point two. So Twenty six point, one cubic feet of cargo space. Which is I. The sixteen point two cubic feet in the trunk is like a Dodge Challenger Dodge Challenger has a very oddly sort of deceiving large trunk because. Because the trunk link isn't very big so it doesn't look like a big hall but when you open it, there's a bunch of room in there So it it has as much room as that. So. Let me just run down some of the numbers for you because you're going to be impressed with this. There are four configurations. Of the Lucid Air. Starting in twenty, twenty, two, the diluted air. Base model. Is going to be eighty thousand bucks. The next model is lucid air touring available late, twenty, twenty, one, ninety, five, thousand, the grand touring. available mid twenty, twenty, one for one, hundred, thirty, nine, thousand, and the. Dream edition available in spring of Twenty twenty one, hundred, sixty, nine, thousand. Yes. It seems a little pricey Now, we're definitely getting into Porsche panamericana turbo. Taicang Turbo. Numbers but. Let's. Hear what you get yes here here's what you get and I WANNA make sure I get this right. So they start at about six hundred, seventy horsepower they will top out at one thousand, eighty horsepower you can get a range of over five hundred miles I think I read something saying they're going for five hundred twelve miles now again I don't know the exact configuration that's the most range I don't know if that means the most horsepower and the biggest batteries issue that range it could. Entry level long range low power. How you at Horsepower Idiots range in whatever. So Up to five, hundred and something or a range, a thousand eighty horsepower. Big Car big car dual motor one in the front one in the rear. Zero to sixty in its thousand eighty horsepower range under two point five seconds. Okay but. Runs the quarter mile in nine point nine seconds this they run nine. You could break ten seconds in this thing and I was an I can't imagine it's going to do it three times in a row of sure the batteries the temperature whatever and I couldn't imagine if you ran, let's say three I don't know drag radio four drag radio. Probably would shatter I don't think that's their intention certainly. Can't imagine it would be by come on. Two and a half seconds court zero to sixty. Basically running. Ten flat nine point nine seconds in the quarter mile that's insane. Building Right now, a four-door base with a parachute. But this doesn't have one and you can plug it in. You can plug it in. Here's the thing is. Built you brought up a good example. You can build your charger as crazy as you want and that's on you. Okay. Now, you make a car like this that runs nine ninety s in the quarter mile. Some of the responsibility for lack of better term is gonNA. Lie in the hands of the manufacturer. So what sort of crazy electronics nannies and all kinds of things do they need to do to try to make it as safe as possible? We've seen this with Gotti who got run when that came out. They said, Hey, it's gonNA crazy top speed but you need to like stop the car pull it over change the key put it in a race mode hunkered down and make sure the seat belts on and going a straight line and as soon as you sort of twitch the wheel a little too far to the left right shuts down that crazy race like. You know it doesn't want you to like they're doing everything they can. I, can almost guarantee it costs Bugatti more money to make that thing safe that it did cost them to create the amount of. Narrow. Dynamics that have right of us. You know. So I wonder why is going to do? Because we want people that enjoy this car and have fun I would love to dry. It looks Kinda cool and this is bat shit crazy speeds. But I I. I don't WanNa go around in circles in this thing just like anybody right? So it would. Be Interesting to test one of these out. But I like what they're doing. They seem to have pretty good management. The numbers are coming in pretty. A favorable I think i. let's just see if it turns out to be something other than a care. That's all I can say yeah let's see what it does. Let's see if they launch on time. Everybody's saying now is like, Hey, if you're interested give us a bunch of deposits so we can raise another four, hundred million dollars who can actually make it. You know because all we have is. And and The guys at Nissan we spoke to them at least they're not. They're not hiding behind some of the financial trouble. So like hey were around, we know how do it? We're focusing on our core product a were you know we're borrowing some money were. Pairing Ganor lineup or focusing on our cash cows, rogue and Pathfinder but they straight up told me like we were gonNA make threes prototypes. Launched them in three parts of the world and they said what just due to budget cuts we made one zero prototype and we're GONNA launch virtually or around the around the world I've got no problem with that that sounds responsible today. Great, and if there's enough by guys will make the car everyone will do happy. We don't need three prototypes. So people can see a person, take the one prototype. See How people react if you like it. Let's go around. Let's do it. And make it happen. But all right. All the boring car shit let's get into. Talking about the BMW itself we are at you as you guys have been. Getting the BMW ready to sell. Goods tune pretty good. And most of the conversations of explanations descriptions that you have turned out negative contrary to this story. Yes, right. So It's taken a lot of work to get it notre. I'm just GonNa, give you right. We hit four hundred and ninety four horsepower. With this thing, which is a fantastic. Number I'm GONNA, pull up via, pull up the the the Dino Sheet Right, now roy quick over while we're doing this We did. So we took it to world motorsports here end in. Torrance. They have a beautiful in ground dino whole Dino Sal. Chassis dyno, they use a Mustang, Dino. So those of you familiar with Donald Jet Mustang Donald you know the numbers could be a little bit conservative. But. Also, their Dino Excel is wind tunnel Dino. So they also do a lot of a Lamborghini in porsches Porsche turbos so they haven't all wheel drive dino but when you run the two wheel drive car the. Of Barrels they the rollers they spin with the car. You get sort of a real world a Aaron speed and everything which is interesting is. The. Be. Yeah I got video I've got video I'M GONNA post up with the show so you guys can can see The The one to one ratio, which is the gear ratio you run on the dino and a lot of cars, its fourth gear in the three because a six feeds, the one to one is not to our drives its fifth year so. Getting the horsepower number getting your eight thousand Rpi. In fifth gear home, you'd be doing one hundred and eighty miles an hour. So, we did a few runs in fifth gear, and then there is a way to configure the dino by putting in. The ratios of the transmission. Little tell you. So we can do a fourth year pass. So what happens is is We've made four, hundred, ninety, four, horsepower, four, hundred, seventy, four. Pound feet of Torque. And then there is a little bit of a translation in the in the gears. So on the on the screen, it's four, ninety, four on the printout. It said four, eighty, nine. So forty nine point something we're we're looking at a four horsepower difference by. We made four hundred, ninety basically horsepower on Shitty Ninety one California, pump gas you take this car anywhere you're well over five hundred rear rear wheel horsepower and that the part that I am excited about is. We. Changed the supercharge from an old Vortex v two to the upgraded. Vortex. V to Ti, we improve the cooling system which the computer response to it doesn't have the pullback as much timing and knock centers and all that stuff up. When when before I when I bought the car before we made any changes in the car was. had. Some cooling issues and stuff we ran on the dino on another Mustang Dino different facility but Mustang dine out. and. We made four hundred and ten rear wheel horsepower. So the changes between. The computer, the exhaust. System The swap out the super charger just getting his dialed in more a we made ninety extra horsepower roughly eighty to ninety horsepower. So I'm very happy with with Damn near five hundred rear wheel horse are I will tell you that. It's it's got a pretty safe tune in. It's a little on the rich side. You probably could lean it out a little bit. I'll be perfectly honest with you. The car runs great. It's fastest how I. Did get the check engine light to come on once or twice because if saying, hey, it's a little rich on the high end at like ninety miles an hour on the freeway but that's part of the safe tune I. legal nobody is going to go fast. So right smart move McCoy right I think if you if you leaned it out a little bit I, just don't want to really do it here on our California gas. So If, somebody is going to bring a trailer. If you want to buy the car, you're more than happy to take and get a little tuning done on it lean it out a little bit I. Bet if you live someplace would ninety three octane you're probably gonNA be making five and a quarter at the tires and and solve the you know the issue of between Lane and rich, but this thing runs. Like a bad out of how it is so much fun to drive. ended it all cleaned up and soon as get if it gets accepted to bring a trailer and we listed by all means we will tell you guys about it. And hopefully, somebody else be did enjoy it up. This Day this day and age of extras through a a guest appearance on car cast I'll tell you what you buy the car. Yes. I. Agree. Car Yes to be interviewed on Kark yet it drive it. Come on and tell us how you like it. We love to talk to you about it You're going to see in the listing of all the details as you guys know fully built motor a yes. The Rod bearings, all the burnings have been done. It's got four Pistons lower compression eight half to one handled the boost air water inner cooler. We did the suspension K.. W.. Stage three very in three coil overs. Double. Adjustable. It's got. It's got Turner Motor Sports Cambridge cast arms adjustable arms and yes. When we install all of this, we went in and welded in these sub frame reinforcement plates on underneath on the UNIBODY on the chassis. So that is all gone. Now keep in mind Adam Corolla started building this car years ago when it was new but I've since. changed all of the brakes, the brakes, and the Calipers Adam had the Brembos honor I took him off and upgraded them to the new brembos. We had four Piston Brembos on all four corners. A new desk now, HR wheels went on in June. I WANNA say June of twenty eighteen along with the Michelin Pilot Sports. Tires. Which means it's only got. A couple thousand miles maybe maybe two thousand miles on on the on the tires. Plenty of tire laughed everything's it looks good. It's in good shape. Anyway you'll get all the details all the photos on bring trailer will tell you guys WanNa get listed hopefully, you guys will have. Well. 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Has just senseless to me, but I mean, it's a freedom issue with people but logics tell me that if I'm going over twenty miles an hour two wheeler I'm GonNa need something on my being if I take a spill. So yeah. Yeah I I agree Arizona I think still doesn't have a helmet law and. You'll writing and I get. It's it's kind of fun to cruise around the neighborhood or something without the helmet but I just assumed put the helmet on if you're worried about like blocking out sound or whatever. There's enough helmets and styles out there it's kind of I. Don't know I say all sizes I'm not I'm not much of a motorcycle rider to to to have an opinion strong enough that I should started scolding people. Do whatever you want but. At the end of the day, it's everybody's opinion. Everybody's right to do with L. L. in what I mean. If you're GONNA, ask me my opinion that's my opinion I'm not gonNA. Sit here and tell anybody else but they're just stupid When is the is the charger loading up? It should be happening right chargers really loaded up. Next week early next week and headed up to speed core and God knows they're going to do it but it's going to be awesome when it's done and. Hopefully. It's the second car. That's. Put in my new garage. Because the law man will be the first one twelve but yeah. Last week this past week has been very pricey week for me it just so happened after waiting about a year I. Think I mentioned this already both Dr who's building the short block and bore who's be in the transmission for the truck they both called they said, hey, we're shipping everything out. Says there our money so Just write sh actually you wouldn't believe going Gosh. Kim said. Speaking of checks. Did you know that this is the best time to join the Brotherhood of muscle. Tell you paid for that Ad Buddy. Dodge power dollars means you get a guaranteed discount? The math is simple. 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So yeah. So I got the the dark short block is on its way I spoke to our friends at Com camps and I said Hey guys love your help i WanNa. Custom Grind. Blower. Cam. I'd love to do. We're trying to do the engine as as. As. Right. As possible. So I think I'm going to be using calms shaft Mount Rockers takes all the. Vibration and stuff out. Good stability on the on the rocker. System. Here's a question for you guys. I have an original lightning gt forty intake medical the to design. I sent it out to a porting company. They have poured it a cut it. They've cut lower manifold straightened out some of the runners. Could to make it flow. As much as possible, it will still be the bottleneck on this engine not much, but it will be the bottleneck, but because we're throwing boost and it was pro charter. We can overcome that bottleneck ramming more air into it so. I could go with option one is we keep the original a lightning intake manifold and when I did this is my the engine that's in the truck. Now, all original I bought another original lightning intake manifold send it out got imported. And it is a period correct three fifty, one lightning mantle. was. Not Inexpensive with the Guy I bought it from listen to show. He was really great. He's up where the porter guy is the guy who's doing this big big dog I think is doing it any Trovato Ernie, dropped it off and I appreciate that very nice to do that for me. I could do some sort of air to Air Inter Cooler on the front of the truck. Use the original lightning manifold and run it that way or. I could go with. Holidays new leg hi Ram. Intake manifold which. Doesn't have any real flow restrictions is going to do more than enough that we ever needed. An it's Kinda. Cool. 'cause it looks like the LS manifold. It's Gaza. Yeah it's got the the center throttle body. And what I was looking at, which is interesting is I was talking to a friend who does some marketing at tick performance, Ti K. chick performance or tick motorsport I think performance and they make. An air to water inter cooler that sandwiches in between the top hat, right. So the the holly manifold as the lower with long runners, and then it has a. Cap that goes over the top it's bolted and. You can take it off. You can poured out easily they haven't that can sandwich in their right. So I can run. If you think about your hell cats, you're running an air to water inner quota the jumped t five, hundred you know all the twin screw superchargers running it I can run the water tank I can run a heat exchanger in the fried. And there's no comparison. Come on. Well one of them is vintage lock the other one. Is. Look out with that with that vintage look. What's GonNa come along with that I I don't know I mean I. Don't I don't think there's going to be. Restrictions I don't think there was gonna be unlike you I don't know you guys tell me you open the hood and go hey, we're the lightning engine go. Well, it's at home in my living room. I I don't know. I, I got this really reported intake. I could use it for another engine or something like that. I'm going to sell to Gobert sell to Steve Austin hiding on it. Sucks. I'll say, Hey, you know what your Bronco needs is often. And I've got the lightning engine for you. I've got the power night supercharged on it. Let's just drop your ended in that truck. Exactly. Perfect. I'll go sell it to him. All right. I kind of let me talk to the guys at Holly Suge work something out. But when I saw that those guys that take made that really nice inner cooler and. The reason why I I never considered it before because in the Mustang world. It's big and you got to cut through the hood and everything. Yes I was I was under the hood of the truck going. Without changing the hood I've got another. You can save the myth like another four inches of clearance and there, and I think we could pull it off I think we can fit now has to Erdo to water intercourse. They have like a four and a half inch tall and a three and a quarter inch tall. I don't know that we can get the four and a half, but the three and a quarter should work and. The thresholds are like once A. Twelve hundred horsepower capable and the other is seventeen hundred horsepower. Now, you'll be fun I think we'll be fine. You tend to WanNa go more art, right? If you go hey, I'm GonNa make six, hundred, horsepower I want the twelve hundred. Horsepower capable inner cooler. So if I'm GONNA make eight or nine hundred, I'm kinda getting toward the maximum of that. I think of fuel injectors the same way you type in the math on your. Online calculator and you go oh, you know an eighty three pound injector is good for you know. you know. A thousand horsepower or something, but you never want to run more than like an eighty percent duty cycle. You don't Wanna Max it out. So same theory on the on the inner colder. So it'd be hey, if if this if the math says, it could do twelve hundred horsepower. That's great. You never really want to run it that full. Now keep in mind when you're driving around town, you're only using a hundred horsepower, right? Maybe two hundred horsepower accelerating. You'd have to be hitting the drag strip again and again and again to really start to heat soak that thing or hit. The you know we've seen a lot of the cars you know previous gt five hundreds and supercharged cars and Ziara ones and like oh after. Three laps around willow springs it's getting heat soak and it's backing off time and it's not making power. In. Older. Flying traffic how many you know how many laps are we going to do around Willow sprague's it is still a pickup truck. But I kinda liked the idea. Of. Of the holly manifold that has some cemeteries to it, it's got a front mounted sort of front center mounted throttle body, and the way to do that is they do a low mount distributor which I can use a low mound conventional distributor or they have a coil on plug conversion. So you take distributor cap, you put the flat block off cap on it, and then you do coil on plug, and of course, it's coil near Plug. Let's call it that and you can mount the coils anywhere you want but now I'm getting. I'm getting sparked for each sparkplug. Each coil is firing of the spark log, which is really beneficial when you're running supercharge turbo whatever. Right. So I'm kind of leaning toward that holly fuel injection coil near plug ignition. And maybe this inner cold. You building dragster or a lightning I building a building. Happening does drag radials. We talked about last week. That's awesome. All right. We're good. Let's let's wrap it up and we will. Go, catch a plane. For we get out of here man I just left expel headquarters the scorning the guys up there. Too. Great Care of us as always they're doing a range rover and then hopefully in a couple of weeks, they'll become an out to take a look Gobert garage of do the. Window. Treatment out there. So Yes the thing about. Guys over. At expel we know them for the paint protection film since up that they do ten for cars and buildings and all kinds of stuff so off they're they're they're fully vested in the protection area, right? The Sun damage protection. I think that. That's a good move i. think that's a good move as well. Oh you don I'm going to be. When I get the engine and stuff done in the truck we're going to do the. The paint protection film on on this well. We're going to do the color correction ready a little bit more of that Orange Peel out of the black paint China up real nice and do the pain protection on it. Push I think it's GonNa work out I think it's GonNa work on Crepe. So excited about that excited about breaking ground on the new garage and A. How that comes you're GONNA have to share more more renderings and photos and plans in south as sort of comes law. Yeah. You know I've been I've been Kinda Hush Hush on him because we have broken ground and I don't want to. Set. The court the cart before the horse but now. Now, now it's GonNa be an overflowing. Stream of photos and updates. So beaten. All right guys thanks so much to head out to Tennessee check out the Z. car do Har- cast live out there. So we'll see you guys next week until next time keep the air in the spare and the bag in the wheel. For the latest updates and Colin Times follow the show on facebook twitter and instagram at car cast show. If you'd like to ride in fill out the FORM ON COMCAST SHOW DOT COM and don't forget to give us a nice rating on I tunes. Car Cast is a Corolla digital production and is produced by Chris Mocks him on for more information visit car cast show. Dot. com. 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