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A highlight from THE HASH: SEC to Challenge XRP Ruling in Case Against Ripple; FTX Claps Back at Creditors
"Hey there. Welcome to Coindesk TV. Welcome to The Hash. It's the best show on Coindesk TV in my humble opinion. I'm Zach Seward. We're joined by Jen Senassi, Will Foxley. They both agree. Best show. Good stuff. That's a fighting word, Zach. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Is that a compliment or a diss for me? It's a compliment. All of them. We're this, all of us together. We bring so much. You know, Jen, you have multiple shows. I'm not throwing shade at the other show, but this show. Sorry, Lawrence. This is what it's really all about. I have to agree. There you go. Love that. All right. It's pretty good. Enough hemming and hawing. My bad, folks. Let's get to the stories of the day. Will, lead us off. What's up? Okay. Let's go to FTX land and talk about bigger problems. This is a tough one. Creditors and debtors are fighting it out after a draft reorganization plan was filed by John J. Ray III, the new CEO of FTX and the FTX estate. Of course, they're going through this chapter 11 process, which is going to be drawn out for quite some time. They've been at it for well over six months at this point, and they've been racking up a lot of fees. The creditors here are not super happy with the handling of a lot of different aspects of the estate. For one point, they even issued that, Hey, why is the treasury not being put into UST bills so we can earn a yield on top of all the money that is waiting to be distributed to FTX creditors? The estate has some thoughts about that. There's some back and forth here. At the end of the day, I think it's just two groups arguing over a vast sum of money that is owed from one party to another. This is a story as old as time itself, right? Like chapter 11 back and forth. Jen, I got to throw it to you. What's your take on this one? I'm imagining when I read the story, I imagined FTX's new management, like in suits, you know, all the lawyers that are making all that money that we spoke about way back when trying to talk to like a bunch of degents who won't turn their zoom cameras on and just getting absolutely frustrated. There are some real great nuggets in here if you read the footnotes and the whole thing, but I think it makes sense. Like FTX's management needs to be conservative. They need to look at this whole thing holistically. I think this is one group, it's the group of unsecured creditors who are saying, no, you need to do X, Y, and Z. I think they were suggesting putting some of the money into long -term crypto holdings. They're talking about US treasury bonds. And, you know, I think that's a little bit risky when you're looking at getting as much money as possible back to all of the people who are owed money in this. There's a lot to dive into here, but Zach, I want to get you in first before we dive down that rabbit hole. I do like the part where it's just like, we're going to put it all on red and we are going to weight it back in one spin, baby, let's do this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like that meme. It's like that, I don't know, I forget which movie it is, but the Las Vegas meme where everyone's like gathered around the craps table, like various disfigured injuries, and you often see various sort of crypto figureheads placed into that meme. And you can imagine the degens on the creditors side being like, yes, we can do it this way. But really, it's just a tug of war between two parties seeking to establish power over these proceedings, right? I think this is very much in response. This is kind of John J. Ray kind of clapping back and saying, hey, creditors like pipe down. I know you said this thing where you want control over who's making these decisions. I think that was the previous week that the creditors committee came out and cast a little shade on how the estate is handling things. And hey, J. J. Ray the third is going to clap back. If we know anything, this man does not mess around. We've seen this guy come out firing time and time again. He's ready to roll sleeves and put the fisticuffs up on this one. So interesting to see, again, the war of where it's escalating between these parties who see different priorities and how this should be handled. And this is some tension sort of spilling out into the public sphere. Will, what do you think? Three bits and pieces here. Maybe it's context. Maybe it's just kind of fun facts. I just want to bring up one. There's this debate over should FTX reboot FTX 2 .0. As it were, John J. Ray the third and the FTX estate has hinted at it and maybe even like suggested that they might move forward with it. Certainly a lot of creditors and debtors who want this to occur because they think this is possibly the only way for them to see more of their money, typically in chapter 11, and we see like maybe like 11 cents on the dollar get paid out. Eventually, I mean, Gox Celsius, there's so many different stories in the past where we haven't really seen the money go back completely. Another few thoughts on this is one, the debtors have issued in this note, a complaint that they have not met with the estate at all. And it seems to be some frustration there because the FTX estate is spending so much, like millions of dollars, like the hourly cost for these things is incredible. Yet they're unwilling to meet with the debtors in this situation, which strikes me as a little bit odd, but maybe they just don't want to deal with it. And I suppose if I was in their situation, making a lot of money, I wouldn't answer the phone either. I don't know. Jen, I have to add this to Tidbit and they are, I guess, looking for solutions if we want to get the unsecured creditors some points here. They the reason that they were suggesting that FTX look into short term treasuries was to help offset that 330 million dollar legal fee bill that we spoke about on the show, I think it was months ago now. So they are coming with solutions. You got to give them some credit there. Zach, I'm going to hand it off to you for last words. This story will never die. This is the story that will never die. Maybe we can talk about it 10 years from now, if we're lucky. Oh, wow. It's kind of like all the other FTX stories too, right? Whether it's like got new information about Allison or Sam or whatever, it's like two different tracks for the same story. Yeah, you got to have, you know, like the, you got the A storyline and the B storyline. You got the suits sparring over various procedural updates. And then you, you got the juice over here. You got the, you got the Machiavellian and you got the personal drama, you got all sorts of stuff, all sorts of stuff. Maybe, maybe when Netflix finally makes the documentary, they'll use a clip from the hash. That is my dream. We have been in a book about this. Yes. Shout out to Brady Dale. Now Avaxios, go get that book. All right. That's it. We're going to change gears. We are going to go to an update on the Ripple case. Now, last month there was a big judgment from a federal judge saying that certain sales of XRP satisfied securities transactions. Others did not. And now the SEC is appealing or is asking for permission to appeal that judgment a in major case that has been closely watched in the crypto world. When this judgment was first issued by federal judge Annalisa Torres, who was seen as a partial victory for Ripple and a partial victory for the industry writ large. So clearly, the SEC is advancing its case that maybe those programmatic sales also qualify as securities transactions and they're asking for a certain type of appeal on the matter. Jen, I'm going to throw it to you. Everyone was super duper bullish about this decision from Judge Torres, and now they may have to take it back to appeal. How does that sort of change our understanding of what happened here? This is another story that just will keep going on, I think, until the end of time. It feels like we've been following the Ripple case. It did feel like there was like a moment where this entire industry took a breath and thought, wow, this this is a small win for us. It's a small win. It gives us a little bit of clarity, a little bit of direction. We, of course, have seen since then Coinbase has referenced this partial win in some of their filings against the SEC. And now I just feel down in the dumps again. Of course, there's still a trial pending here. And now we have the SEC filing this appeal, which I think everyone expected. The SEC said that they were going to file the appeal. The part that I'm going to watch and that I think is kind of interesting is Judge Torres said Ripple did not break the law when the XRP token was sold on public exchanges because purchasers had no reasonable expectation of profit based on Ripple's efforts. I just wonder if we're going to see Ripple's efforts come to light here compared to the price of the XRP token. Ripple has made a lot of announcements about acquisitions, new projects, new products, and if that is going to be some swaying information in this case, because I think that it's not a far cry to draw a parallel between Ripple's new project and the price of the XRP token, even though Ripple has definitely distanced themselves from that narrative. Will, what do you think? Yeah, classic Ripple. It's not our token. We just found it out there. I don't know. It was in the wild somehow. Going back to like the lawsuit here in the case between SEC and Ripple Labs, the programmatic selling part that Zach brought up, this is the thing that confused a lot of people, and there was definitely a lot of lawyer opinions on this, including some op -eds I've written on Coindesk, so definitely go check those out for an expert's opinion. From a layman's opinion, just looking at this, it seemed a little odd that you could have this broken up into two different tranches, right, where we could sell to VCs, we could sell to banks, we could sell to institutions, and that's not okay. But if we sell it onto an exchange where there's just retail clients and they're not really having an investment contract, they're just purchasing, I guess, like a commodity in this case or something like that, then it's okay. And it just didn't make sense to a lot of people when they first saw this. I only saw a few lawyers who were looking at that and were like, oh, yeah, that checks out. I think it also, if it stands, sort of cuts at the heart of how a lot of crypto lab companies or foundations do their sales of assets when they create them, or quote unquote assets. Oftentimes we see private rounds where initially there's like a premium uncreated, and then they divvy up that pre -mine to investors, to insiders, to the foundation, to the early team, and then they do a huge sale to the retail, either through like an airdrop or listing an exchange elsewhere later on. So let's take a world coin, for example, they did this, right, where they gave some to early investors, they gave some to the team, and then they gave a ton to market makers to be able to keep the price of the token pretty steady. And under this ruling from this judge, a lot of that would be broken, right? Like, would you be able to give a token to market makers to even loan it out so you could have a price? I don't know if you can do that anymore under this. It seems like you could only really sell it to retail. That seems odd to me, it seems like it's going to change. And I don't think it's a surprise to anyone to see the SEC go against this, or at least try to challenge it. The outcomes from it could have huge repercussions for how everyone is looking at the token market. Zach? Yeah, my understanding is that a lot of these sales sort of date back before established best practices were set up right for a lot of these token distributions, right. So this is this is from an era in which a lot of the regulatory kosher practices were being embraced. So I think a lot of this space has evolved. And I think there is a question as to whether or not this will impact sort of the current understanding of how tokens get distributed to early investors. I think the SEC had to appeal this one because, Will, as you mentioned, it really undercuts Gary Gensler's argument that almost everything except for Bitcoin basically is a digital asset security. Now, I mean, I think my understanding of the ruling was that it's not really the securities, it's not really the assets themselves, it's which type of transactions they're involved in. And that was sort of the fine line that Judge Torres was trying to distinguish here, right? You know, similarly to how in the Howey test, it stemmed over an orange grove in Florida, right? The oranges themselves aren't necessarily securities, but if they are involved in a securities transaction, then they meet certain requirements in terms of disclosure and other things that need to happen, right? So the understanding, at least on the industry side, was, hey, the assets are just like the oranges. They aren't inherently securities, but if they're in a securities transaction, then certain rules will apply. And that's what Judge Torres was trying to articulate, whereas Gary Gensler has been trying to say, these things are securities, they look like a security, they walk like a security, they quack like a duck, I don't know what I'm saying anymore. But he was saying that that is always the case with these things, that they are by nature of their existence are our securities. Whereas the judge is saying, no, no, we need to look at the specifics of the transactions in which they're involved. So a lot of people, I think, within the industry specifically saw that as a pretty reasonable explanation of how it can be both at the same time, a security and not a security. And now I think the SEC is at least taking another shot at advancing their case here, such that other claims relating to other assets can be supported. But yeah, I mean, this is I think, I think a lot of lawyers, this was definitely the thing where a lot of lawyers on crypto Twitter were sort of placing their bets in terms of what would happen. Some were more cautious that an appeal would would occur. Others were indicating that there would likely not be an appeal here. Now we see with this particular type of appeal that the SEC is going to have this one looked at again, under video review, but who knows? There's a new social marketplace on the block and it's called Calixi. The platform hopes to empower content creators to build personal economies and interact directly with their fans. Joining us now to discuss is Calixi CEO and co -founder Solos Sisay and co -founder and NBA star Spencer Dinwiddie. Good afternoon to you both or good morning. I don't know where everyone is. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Good morning. All right. Let's let's talk about the launch of this. It's been in beta for a while. It's now officially launched on yesterday's show. We spoke about Grimes coming out in the media and saying she actually made more money from her NFTs than her music career. Talk to us about the experience that creators can have on the app. As we look at monetization of the individual holistically, I think you're going to get some of those familiar features that you see from like in OnlyFans, et cetera. People being able to message, video chat, and then Calixi isn't very unique in the fact that they can create individual experiences. Like I have like a jump shot tutorial, things of that nature. But yes, it's all about monetization of oneself. Also, you can post your NFTs, et cetera. We have Web3WAD in there running on Hedera. But yeah, I mean, it's about monetization. So let me ask this one to you. This has been a long time coming for you guys, right? This project, I think you've been working on it for three years. Talk to me about what it means to get this fully launched today and what you learned over that process of cobbling this thing together over those three years.
76ers finish sweep of Nets without Embiid in 96-88 win
"The Philadelphia 76ers overcame the absence of injured star Joel embiid as they upended the nets 96 to 88 to sweep away Brooklyn four games to zero and become the first team to advance to the second round of the playoffs. James Harden had 17 points and 11 assists while Tobias Harris led the way which 25 points. We've shown through the year different occurrences of state and weight in the look at our record on the road as well in different guys in and out of the lineup from time to time and being able to just find a way to get victories. Spencer Dinwiddie and Nick claxton had 20 and 19 points respectively for the nets who were swept in the first round for the second straight season. Mike Moriarty, New York
Okoro's 3-pointer sends Cavaliers past Nets 116-114
"The Cavaliers pulled out a one 16 one 14 win over the nets on Isaac okoro's three pointer from the corner with .7 seconds remaining. A Korra's late bucket gave him 11 points and sent the Cavaliers to their 8th victory in ten games. Cleveland trailed one 12 one O four with two 13 remaining before closing on a 12 two run. Donovan Mitchell delivered 31 points and Evan mobley added 26 with 16 rebounds. Brooklyn dropped its 5th straight game despite Michael bridges, who had a game high 32 points. Spencer Dinwiddie finished with 25 points and 12 assists for the nets. I'm Dave ferry.
Prosecutor: Black man smothered to death at mental hospital
"Attorneys representing a family say 7 Virginia deputies caused the death of a black man in their custody. I Norman hall, attorneys for the family of Irvine otieno, say video show 7 sheriff's deputies pushing down on his body with what the lawyers say was absolute brutality. The incident was captured on security camera footage from a state mental hospital, otieno was handcuffed and shackled before being pinned down by the deputies, who now facing second degree murder charges. Dinwiddie county Commonwealth attorney and cabal baskerville told the Richmond time dispatch otieno did not appear combative and had been sitting in a chair. She said the takedown was a demonstration of power that was unlawful. I Norman hall
Lopez comes up big, Bucks edge short-handed Nets 118-113
"Brook Lopez just missed a triple double in guiding the bucks to their 19th victory in 20 games. One 18 one 13 versus the nets. Lopez had a career high 9 blocks to go with 24 points and ten rebounds. The block total is an NBA season high. Bobby portis added a season best 28 points and 13 rebounds to help Milwaukee win without Giannis at ten to kupo. Patty mills scored 23 points and cam Thomas had 21 for the nets, who were without Nick claxton Spencer Dinwiddie cam Johnson, Royce O'Neill and Ben Simmons. I'm Dave ferry.
"dinwiddie" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"App. Tune in. The Bloomberg business app and Bloomberg dot com. The death toll is expected to continue increasing after a devastating earthquake in turkey and Syria this week, the Monday quake is already responsible for the deaths of nearly 30,000 people across both countries. On Saturday, UN aid chief Martin Griffiths said it's difficult to estimate until crews get under the rebel, but he expects the death toll will at least double in the coming weeks, and New York City's COVID-19 vaccine mandate for municipal workers is now over. Scott Pringle has the very latest. The mandate led to about a 96% vaccination rate, however, it also led to about 1700 city workers getting fired for refusing the shot and numerous lawsuits. The mandate was put in place by the former de Blasio administration in October of 2021, but now it's over, mayor Adams's administration says those fired for refusing the shot can apply for their jobs at their former departments, but they will not be automatically reinstated and not get back pay. And that's the very latest. I'm Jim Forbes. And now this Bloomberg sports update. Second time in as many nights, the sixers had their way with teams from the Big Apple. One O one 98 at the Barclays center, they beat the nets, of course, on Friday night. They beat the Knicks in Philadelphia, outscored the nets 25 16 in the fourth quarter, did Philadelphia Spencer Dinwiddie had a shot we thought forced overtime it was overturned after a review. Joel embiid James Harden combined for 66 points in this one, Mikhail bridges 18 and a losing effort making his Brooklyn debut. Better news though for Knicks fans and MSG, they hold off Utah one 26 to one 20 outscoring them in three or four quarters sinks to 38 points from Julius Randle. College basketball, St. John's upsets 20th ranked Providence 73 68. Rutgers a lose in Illinois in 69 60 and Yale pounds Columbia at 99 to 68 on frozen the floor, all three local teams in action rangers. They get a win in Carolina in 6 to two. Islanders lose four three and overtime in Montreal still pick up a point though and the devil's loose three two in a shootout in Minnesota. Big game from Arizona is Sunday. Are you ready, Kansas City meets Philadelphia. Jalen hurts their quarterback talks about filling the love from the Philly faithful. The energy and enthusiasm of this city is something like none other. I've been able to be a part of two really historic and dominant football programs with rich support and I think this city of Philadelphia been in this city for a short time now. I think it's, I think it's something different. Hertz had a career season, so did chief quarterback Patrick Mahomes, the MVP for the second time. He credits the new receiving corps. They accepted the challenge every single day and they made them better and went through those growing pains that we had together. We kept getting better and better. And that's why we're in the position that we're in today is because we had guys that weren't only leaders, but guys that worked hard and got themselves better every single day. A lot of big games that we played, those guys have made those plays happen. Kick-off 6 30 eastern Phillies at two point favorite with your Bloomberg sports update. I'm rob busker. This is a Bloomberg money minute due to the national labor shortage, many companies have reduced education requirements for hiring, and that includes college degrees. It's attracting talent. There are still two job openings for every seeker and it's a hot market. 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I asked former SEC chair Harvey Pitt if the SEC is moving fast enough to crack down on crypto. The right question may be. Are they moving too fast? But there's certainly moving quite rapidly and they are creating a very dangerous character cryptocurrency firms. Y too fast. Well, the difficulty is that we're dealing with a trend and with activity that are not well defined. And what the SEC is doing is bringing enforcement actions as their way of telling people what the rules may be, but the right way to regulate this would be to put out information that allows people to understand what the rules of the road are. How they can comply. And then if they don't comply and enforce law, that's not happening. So the SEC is failing and not communicating with the crypto universe is your point. I think so. Commissioner peers put out a statement which said, the SEC's known about staking transactions for example for quite a long time and never bothers to tell anyone what was required. 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Dinwiddie has 25 in Brooklyn return, Nets beat Bulls 116-105
"The nets won their first game since dealing Kevin Durant defeating the bulls one 16 one O 5. Spencer Dinwiddie scored 25 points in his first game since returning to Brooklyn. He was reacquired in the Kyrie Irving trade and provided 18 points in the second half. There's two stops I really enjoyed my MBA career and this is one of them. So if I was going to go back to a place, it would definitely be here. Then what he sparked a 26 run in the fourth quarter. Joe Harris finished with 18 points, and Utah watanabe chipped in 14 and 22 minutes off the bench. Zach lavine led all scores with 38 points, but demar Derozan had just 14 in Chicago's second straight loss. I'm Dave ferry.
Curry injures left leg leading Warriors over Mavs 119-113
"Even without the injured Luka Dončić, the warriors barely held off the Mavericks to win it one 19 one 13. Stephen Curry had a team high 21 points, but left the game with a lower leg injury late in the third quarter. Forward to Michael green added 14 points off the bench. It's been an up and down season for us. Sometimes we get going and we think that we clicked and we'll take a hit. So it's a lot of adversity. We're fighting through, but we will be fine. We'll be fine. Great position. We just got to get some wins in a row. The Mavs had all 5 starters in double digits led by Spencer Dinwiddie with 25 points. Ryan
How Luka Doncic and Mavericks overcame a nine-point deficit in 33.2 seconds to beat Knicks
"Luka Dončić had a franchise record 60 point triple double as the Dallas Mavericks rallied for a one 26 one 21 overtime win against the New York Knicks. Mavericks overcame a 9 point deficit in the final 33 seconds of regulation to send the game into overtime. Maris coach Jason Kidd says Lucas 60.21 rebound ten assist game is historic. You know, the history of the game is written by the players, and that was written again tonight for a player, Luca. Doing something that's never been done before. It's hard to do. Spencer Dinwiddie added 25 for the Mas while Quentin Grimes of the Knicks with a queer eye 33, Julius Randle and 29. Bob Stevens Dallas.
"dinwiddie" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"It is important to him to be with one team for his whole career. And whether that remains true or not, we don't know. But I think he's going to sign this extension and it feels like a no brainer. It's a lot of money. It's fantastic for him and his family. Yeah. And I think they're going to have a year kind of figure that out. So it's important for the wizards to push for that play in game. For this reason. So yeah, and I also porzingis is just better than the guys that got rid of. Yes. He is. He's much better than montrez harrell, for instance. He's definitely much better than the version of Spencer Dinwiddie that they had for a while. And losing jobs Bert Hansen Dinwiddie is probably addition by some traction on some level. Just given the way that Dinwiddie was playing this year, unfortunately. Porzingis is gonna make their defense better. He should improve their offense. I mean, I'm assuming he's gonna be the focal point. And we've seen that before. So he will put up some decent numbers as long as he's healthy and out there. I mean, the caveat to all of these things. But I do think that the wizards just stand a better chance than Charlotte of being in that race. Because they're neck and neck. And it's just so close and Charlotte's defense is just. I don't mind this. This is a fun take. Yeah. Okay. I'm in. I like this one. Man, I'm really focused on the plan. That's like, I love it. Well, I'm going to the play in next. My last one is one that is a downer for me. This has been my favorite team to watch in the NBA this year. I'm very sad about it. I'm disappointed that I have to say this and I don't have to say it, but this is where I'm at on this scene. And it's because of the other teams that are coming, not because of them. Sure. I love the Cleveland Cavaliers. I love this team. I think they end up as a play in team. I think they end up as a playing team. There are four great knife in my heart. I know, and it would make me sad. I think they make the playoffs. I think that they win the plan tournament and they have a great tough series in the first round against whoever they play. They could win that first round series even. Like all of these themes in the east are so tight. I think that they end up in the play in tournament. I think the Toronto is coming, Pascal siakam is playing unbelievable basketball right now. I almost is a one of my bold predictions was almost that Pascal siakam goes from not making the all star team to making the all NBA team. That was a serious thought that I had. He's been incredible. Yes. You know what has been, here's my last take. Just to battle your take. Cleveland's gonna win the east. They're gonna be the one seat. Look at their schedule the rest of the way. I love it. Let's do it. So you're getting bump. For Jared Allen, Garland, they've had a levert and he has proved to be that piece that they needed. They needed a guy who could generate a shot. Yep. And now I think he will do it more efficiently as he becomes accustomed to what they do. There are only two and a half games out of the one spot. They've played a lot of their tough opponents. They've already played Milwaukee three times. They played the bulls a few times. Yeah, how about that? Cleveland. Their first few games coming out of all star break..
"dinwiddie" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"I'm just saying I'm just saying a lot of people get upset that superstars are like, you know, they can't do it like this. They can't get their way this time. It's kind of remarkable that Simmons and Hardin have ended up in this situation they've ended up in his all I'm saying. I'm just going to throw out one more though. I know that I think it was Peter who was praising the wizards in the winner's pod that we did. I think the wizards of mavericks are like dual losers for this two way salary dump basically. Like the Mavericks had to basically decide that porzingis was a bad investment so they dump him off on the wizards who realized very quickly that Spencer Dinwiddie and Davis Burton's their last two big free agent signings were bad investments. And so neither of them it's not catastrophic, it's not a bad deal. It's not a great deal. But it was both sides having to admit to pretty big recent poor investments. So I just want to throw them in there. Howard real quick to clear my name, I said everyone who left the Washington Wizards was a winner. The exact opposite. For Washington. All right, sorry. Maddox was pumping up the wizards for their blockbuster acquisition. I think Dallas is a bit of a loser in this one. I mean, porzingis is better than the Dinwiddie Burton's combination. I don't know. I don't even know. I don't know, but they're running into problems finding the right talent around Luka Dončić. Like they are. Like they haven't been able to identify even the type of players that work around him. So maybe I mean, didn't what he's kind of ball dominant to at times like, how's that going to work? Opposite Dončić, like, can you back in the Western Conference? Will DOM has been Texas? Will Davis Burton's find his shooting stroke once again? That's another one. I don't know. They're rolling the dice that they catch lightning in a bottle there and did what he just needed to get away from Washington Berkeley..
"dinwiddie" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"He's still averaging ninety nine this this might have been before the houston game but he was averaging like ninety eight touches third most in the league. You know so so the idea. That luke is going to have the ball. Less is is not actually what this is coming from. The ideas that he's he's more willing to give it up to teammates and if needed get back in just avoid avoid kind of reverting into the worst tendencies. James harden had in detail years with the rockets. Like i think that's what they're trying to avoid and they're trying to build an offense that he is able to. You know that is able to create some shot creation through system in movement and and In cutting in things like that. So i think offensively more or less. Yeah if you have any thoughts on adam. I'm happy to hear him or or questions or or if not i can jump to defense. I mean let's stay with offense for a minute. Because i thought you know this. Obviously the mavericks are one of the teams that had cleared the decks. Indy event that they might be able to chase jaanus and so it was going to be a cap room kind of offseason for them. And then of course you have reupped before the season takes everybody out of the mix but i thought the mavericks having set themselves up to be in free agency and i know there are some limitations there. I thought they'd be chasing the kyle lowry's and spencer dinwiddie and other point guard lonzo ball. Who knows we've we've heard the drug it's rumors and maybe that's gonna come back around depending on what happens in toronto in the next couple months dragic. Yeah the only the only rapper who didn't so so maybe they're already setting it up. I mean You mentioned shot creation and the this has seemed like the obvious thing since luke arrived was like this. This kid is amazing and he can do a ton of the ball in his hands. But as you said. And i've been a. I was a skeptic of the harden rockets philosophy..
Spencer Dinwiddie Excited to Play for Wizards With Bradley Beal
"Spencer Dinwiddie is excited to be heading to D. C. The wasn't really stood out. And it was a place that I wanted to go to being familiar with Bill in his game matching up, you know, both age wise and, you know, play style wise, you know, so it just became a fit that popped on the board. Pretty recently and and I'm blessed to be here. The veteran was limited to three games this past season due to an A C L injury. Meanwhile, look at Don Cheech agrees to a deal with Dallas remaining
"When the olympics start will be the most talented team in tokyo. Hands down no question. Most talented team in tokyo with the roster that they have but this is like a five alarm fire right now howard. This loss to nigeria. I don't care if they win the rest of these pre olympic games which will take place through next sunday. This has to make you nervous if you're a fan of the team because not only is it this. The loss to nigeria. But you go back two years ago at the world championships where you had a us team. That was good. Didn't have probably better team now than they were back in two thousand nineteen but all nba players. They finished seventh. They've been seventh at the world championships. You have the seventh-place finish the loss of nigeria. How concerned are you howard beck about. Usa basketball. It's just an exhibition game. Chris oh no no. It's not just an exhibition game. Stop this team was thrown together over the last however many weeks they had what like three practices. I think i'll ever. Us team is thrown together. What are you talking about. There's no team. There's no no mid season practices for usa basketball. No but the nigerian team has been practicing. What i'm saying is some of the play in the nba though wants win the nba nba. A few of them play in the nba but that team has had time together more so than the team. Sorry brown coaching. that team. That i missed was that a facsimile of mike brown on the bench all season long. What what are we talking about. The warriors have been out for like two months kris k. Okay so two months. that's what matters. That's that's the number three three practices. Also they're still missing. I believe at least three guys because they're playing in the finals right now. Booker middleton chris paul get it. Yes not chris. Ball's not playing a holiday with the the what holland is your holiday. Those those guys will matter especially given that middleton and holiday are to the better perimeter defenders that that team. Usa has and if you look at the rest of team usa's roster. I don't see a ton of great defenders. There there are a few. I think those three guys by the way are going to be exhausted by the time they get to. They may well be. They may will be so. We're going to judge them. Judging when their whole judge when the games matter to strange to me like we don't judge nba teams based on the preseason but we judge team usa based on these exhibition games. That they do going into international competition. I feel like it's thirty. One point favorites. Why why is there betting line on a freaking exhibition better training but a little league baseball. Now country degenerates damn right. I didn't mean chris i'm with. Let's go monday. Nigeria money line. I just. I can't get too excited about this. If they lose the rest of the exhibitions does that mean something. Yeah that might be alarming if they're if they're still struggling to find some cohesion. That could be alarming. But i mean the talent is obviously their talent alone doesn't win on the international stage in style of game is different team ball matters. Shooting matters like yeah. There's a bunch of budget stuff that comes into play. But i i find the panic over this loss or at least the outcry to be a little bit much. So you don't take into account the seventh-place finish in two thousand nineteen. I mean that to me. It's the it's not just as game. The totality of it right. Like and i don't know howard like so in the early two thousands the world kind of caught up to the us ninety to ninety six thousand us. Gold maps then comes the two thousand two world championships in indianapolis and that's seven. The place finish was one of the worst worst outcomes in at least recent usa history. They got it together after that. They hired jerry colangelo. They bringing mike chef ski. They get their act together. Two thousand six two thousand eight then. They run off. Three consecutive years are three consecutive cycles of gold. Medals is argon. Made that like the world's caught up again that somewhere along the way and the last four or five years. The rest of the world has once again caught up usa basketball. I'm trying to understand this. I mean that's close games in those olympics cycles. No question about it. But i can't imagine the oh eight. Twelve or sixteen team losing nigeria. I can't exhibition or otherwise. I can't see it happening. No team and the and the one that followed it were built around like lebron koby. Carmelo enjoying wait. I mean that that groups at another level like as good as this group is that we're seeing right now as talented as they are after k. D. tatum's really good damian. Lillard is great. I mean come arbit- tatum. Bill lillard auto bio levin. Draymond dream ends up there in years but one has won some things. Jeremy grant jeremy grant zach living out of like. These are guys who have done anything in the nba yet. But they're all stars most they're they're also but are they to level of lebron kobe now but do you think is that what you're saying then is that what you're saying to be at the level you need to have like i'm saying the crop to win. I'm saying that if we're going to start comparing the twenty twenty one team to the twenty eight a two thousand eight two thousand twelve teams there is. There is not an equivalent right now. Lebron kobe laurent cobaine weight. And plus what we what. We called olympic. Mellow like carmelo. Didn't have the success in the nba. That some of his teammates did but carmelo in terms of talent level and certainly has resume like that group was at a whole other level. That group is a different level than jason. Tatum bam outta bios. Zach levine. Okay so not saying that you necessarily should have to have that level of time firepower to win an exhibition game against nigeria. Or anybody else. But i am saying comparing usa to itself different iterations of team usa. This one is not that one. This is not as dominant group as the ones we saw in eight and two thousand twelve. It just isn't what do you do like. What's the solution here. Like i mean i jerry. Colangelo deserves an enormous amount of credit for rebuilding that program when it was at. Its nadir mitra chefs. He comes in enormous amount of credit for what they did. But as we sit here in twenty twenty one like it's almost to me howard like the usa basketball rebuilding. The program became cool. Like lebron wanted to do it. Chris paul like dwayne wade. These guys wanted to do it and then they did it. And i think playing for usa basketball didn't become quite as cool as it was fifteen years ago. Like is that what has to happen like does not need to have like a fifth place finish in tokyo for all of a sudden the next generation of a-list stars wherever that may be in two thousand twenty four to come back into the mix and is that the only way this team can win. I mean i think we need to pay attention to the overall context like obviously one. These olympics were supposed to happen a year ago. They're delayed a year because of covid got durant out of it though like that right. It's questionable whether these the olympic should be happening at all still but along the way because of these back to back brutal seasons and everything else like team. Usa doesn't have james harden right now. Doesn't have anthony davis because of the injury doesn't have steph curry doesn't have kyrie irving doesn't have lebron kawai again. If your argument is that the second or third tier it sounds like sounds like insulting. Somehow but if you're saying that the next wave believe after those guys should still be good enough to dominate on the world stage. Maybe but if the point is that the team as best are they still. Are they still able to win. Gold fairly easily. Your probably but a bunch of them aren't on this team right now because of injuries and just the stress of the last year or two so this this is not necessarily representative of the best of the best right now. It just isn't and yes. They should still be good enough to win. Yes the world has caught up to some extent. No the the group that at nigeria's put it put out there last week. Does not leap off the page improbably. Us should've still want it. But again i exhibition game after like three practices. Let's see what happens with the rest of this. This schedule out brought mellow back. I mean he's not what he was four years ago. Eight years ago twelve years ago but the guy knows how to play international basketball. He might have sat. maybe. I guess. I didn't really. I assume that he just want to keep. He didn't kind of like four formerly re retire from the olympics. But it'd be pretty much says like i'm done like lebron kinda did to get talked into it. I feel like. I don't know if i was if i was the usa team would try really hard to get carmelo blake because his style. Whatever it is to the nba is perfect for the national basketball. He's a really good or national basketball player. On this subject damian lillard. He spoke for the first time. Since the hiring of chauncey billips. Only listen to what little had to say about his future in portland. I'm prepared to go in and do my job every year. Like hopefully we make strides over direction and could become a better team a new coach notice. That's where i am. What soured it sounds like. Lillard is at least nominally on board with going back to the blazers. But if i'm a team out there with assets. I don't listen to that response and say well it's over damian. Lillard is back on the same page with the portland trailblazers. If i'm a team with assets i hold onto those assets because it feels to me like the blazers might be one like sixteen to start from blowing that whole thing up with louis mccollum on the way out the door so get the sense now. That seems more likely than not that damian lillard at blazers training camp. He's in ablaze uniform. He starts the season with the portland trailblazers. But if it doesn't work with chauncey billips early and you get close that trade deadline. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see portland decide. Look we've got a. We've got to do something here and opened the door for damian lillard trade. What do you think. I think that nothing has changed. I think that his remarks last week because he sounded a little bit lukewarm. Or just you know you hear one of two things. Well you want to hear one thing if you're a portland trail blazers fan or if you're just looking for any indication that lillard is all in your you want to hear him say listen. I know things are rough right now. But i'm all in you know this is. This is where. I want to be you to repeat all the usual talking points that you hear from players in his position and that we've heard from bradley beal that we used to hear from james harden houston. Which is a win in phil in city fill in the blank with the city. I want to win here. I don't wanna go somewhere else. You know we're going to get this right blah blah. He didn't go down the usual list. And so i think it left open. Some interpretation but getting has changed like the disappointment was clear when the season ended. Some of the things have happened since including obviously the the the train wreck away they went about the the coaching search and lillard. Being caught in the crossfire. There at feeling heat from fans about chauncey billips being selected and so. I don't think we should expect he's going to be rah. Rah right now The trailblazers have a lot of work to do. But we also have not even hit the summer yet. Like there's the draft hasn't happened yet. Free agency hasn't happened yet. There's there's a lot of work to be done. And i think if you're damian lillard which you're probably doing is internally saying here's what i need to see happen externally saying you know what let's let's wait and see i mean you see. He can't he can't say publicly the same things that he's telling say neal o'shea right about what the the state of the roster i i would think that there are some very impassioned debates or discussions being held behind closed doors about what they need to get this thing right and if they can't get it right the he might shift is his stance about staying there long term. But that hasn't happened yet that we know of. What do you think the most interesting potential conversation is amongst players over these next four weeks like i'm kind of curious what jason tatum bradley beal talk about. Tatum and beal close friends dating back to their highschool days both went to the same high school bill with something of a mentor to jason. Tatum actually got him involved with his trainer. Drew hanlin which helped. Tatum elevate his his personal skills and they've talked about how happy they are to be playing together. Played the all star game together for the first time beal last year of his contract. Like you know we've seen these conversations yield real tangible conversation. You'd like to be a fly on the wall on for any of these guys in the next couple of weeks. Yeah i mean look we. We have a history now going back over a decade. If we're to believe that the that the heels were formed in part through team usa activities. You know which is true which is true. That's that's yielded an extra things guy. You know guys who you mentioned. Tatum and bill because they were already friends but guys also become friends through this experience right and then they start getting the ideas about playing together. Like oh hey. This is a lot of fun. Let's do this again in the nba. So there's i'm i'm sure some of that is is happening. It always does. Who else in that group. I mean man. If any of these guys that'd be trying to recruit bam out a bio but he's too early in his in his contract with miami to pry him loose from there And you know the heater still a pretty potent team but you know jimmy butler is up there in miles and outta bios future won't necessarily be there forever. That's the way it goes in the nba. I think tatum has the potential to be like the biggest recruiter. They're like he's about to start the first year of his max level extension. He can recruit bill. But like you can also does damian lillard like. It's great to play in boston. I love it here. Answer some questions of my have a playing on the east coast for the first time. Like i think data might be boston's best asset at this point. Yeah again some of this comes down to bradley. Beal's coming up to that point where he has the leverage to task out because of his contract lillard under contract for several more years and so he's not in that position. So what if it says. Like i need to go like. I don't foresee the blazers being no finish your contract. Just don't see it. i think right. And they would work with him on a deal to sure but directing it is harder so beal can use the leverage of his free agency to say well if you send me to team x. I'm not gonna resign there. Which then blows up that deal and he can direct himself to the team he really wants to be at lillard would have a harder time to doing that. Because he doesn't have free agency looming two to play that card. Yeah well i encourage any reporter. That's in tokyo tatum. Beal and lillard talking to each other. Just take a picture and then let the internet go wild crazy because it will unquestionably last thing for you. Howard the breaking news. This week in the coaching ranks. Is that jamal moseley is headed to orlando moseley of course last with dallas. A really well respected assistant coach there. Who was a candidate for that. Maverick job before. It went to jason kidd my immediate reaction to that higher howard beyond i think being an excellent choice for orlando is that we're gonna look at at moseley and jason kidd on parallel tracks. The next couple of years moseley. There was a strong case to be made that he should have been elevated to that head. Coaching job he'd been considered for other head coaching jobs. Before most recently in new york he had by all accounts a great relationship with luka doncic i understand bringing kit in he's got a history with dallas and as riccar lau said publicly having a player that played the game like kid and having a player that plays the game like don-shik make some sense to pair those two guys together. But there's always going to be as i watched these two situations unfold. I'm gonna wonder you know. Did the mavericks make the right choice. Leading jamaa moseley go and bringing jason kidd in and there's so many variables in this the first being at orlando's in step one or maybe even steps zero of a massive rebuild right there in the negatives right now. I think there's still maybe more fat to trim on that roster before they really bottom out. Yeah and you know you talk about trying to build around. You know markelle foltz. And and jonathan isaac jonathan isaac for so long. They're getting hurt and he's a great player but they've loved writing in a weird way john stays healthy. He's still more of a complementary store right like he's he's a potentially defensive player of the year at some point. He's not a guy who you're building an offense around though and marquel foltz okay. He he got himself back on track in orlando. He has a career now where he didn't have one but he's not a foundational building block. Come on like that's crazy so the roster doesn't have much talent jamal. Moseley's is coming into a situation. Which a lot of first time head coach is committed to which is all right. There's a lot of work to do so You're gonna have to do a lot of development. You're going to have to take a lotta lumps in the win loss column. It's gonna be rough going for the first year or two or maybe three. Let's see how they can get things going. But you know as it has been a certain other like kenny. Atkinson came to look a completely hopeless situation in brooklyn but was known as development coach in atlanta. And sure enough. Everybody who went there. Joe harris spencer. Dinwiddie jared allen versus lower. First round picks. Guys who were you know whether they were reclamation projects whether they were low picks everybody seems to get better the second they went to brooklyn and play kenny atkinson and his staff congenial. Moseley have the kind of effect in orlando can the front office. Get him to kind of guys. That will thrive in that in that kind of environment and carve out careers from cells and carbon identities. Jamal moseley has a lot going for him. And we've heard like many great things about it but we often hear great things about assistant coaches who don't end up panning out so i always. We have to caution ourselves on these things. Because i thought. Brian shaw was gonna be a great head coach and he was. Everybody loved him all the players sung as praises when he was associate head coach under frank. Vogel indiana he goes to denver probably just the wrong guy at the wrong time but he hasn't had another shot since then but that went really badly. Brett brown was really great in in some respects for the for the early years of the process and then suddenly. It seemed like they'd hit some sort of ceiling. Eager kokoschka of had been talked about for years is a great assistant. Coach didn't work out. Swells head coach in phoenix. David dale bumpy ride in memphis and then disastrous in new york. We just don't know like luke walton. Another example like there are plenty of coaches who as their when their assistance. We hear and see the best of them and then you know some of them be go on it and have great success coaches. I mean tyler has been fantastic. Mike malone has been fantastic money williams. Nick nurse dwayne casey a lotta longtime assistance. Get their shot and then you know it. It works out in a dozen. It's all contextual. It's all just the opportunity you have the thing for dallas is. They went with a guy who has experienced jason kit. That experience was not necessarily good experience. Like i think most people around the would look at what he did in milwaukee in brooklyn and say. I'm going to steer clear. Maybe you'd rather have the the unproven. Jamal moseley versus the somewhat proven jason kidd but. I don't think we'll know what the right choice was there for a while yet. Because it's it's gonna take some time before we can evaluate moseley as head coach. I maybe jason kidd learned something in two years as an assistant. I mean that happens. You know working with lebron for entire for two entire seasons working under frank vogel maybe picked up some things that'll be useful to him as a head coach. Moseley to me. The key is giving him time. Like you've got to be committed to moseley for a minimum. I think of three years and more likely five years. And then you see what you have in head coach. You mentioned gore. I mean it's worked out for phoenix. Absolutely but i do think he got hosed out there i mean he only had one year on the job and that year was without deandra aiden chris. Paul had devon booker of course but that was not a good team that he was coaching. There i gotta get moses the because you want to see what the guy can do when you put that team in a position to win a great example to me is james breglio in charlotte. I mean berea. Was one of those guys assistant coach elevated to head coaching position in charlotte. Not great first couple of years there but when he was given players and chance to win he did pretty well. I mean up until lamelo ball went out the horns were really good team and i think they will be a good team. Going forward in part because of the borrego is a pretty good coach. I want to see this magic team. Invest heavily in jamal. The you're the guy developed these guys and we'll keep you around no matter what the won loss record says until you get a chance to win then you judge like brett brown six or seven days since brett brown left but i can see the for letting go of brett brown. I mean they had a talented team and to a degree the underachieved. But you've got to let the coach get a roster on that level before you really make any decisions about whether they can coach. Yeah well and that's the thing about. This is what set up says apart. I think the good organizations from the bad ones is that you you decide when you choose a guy. Especially if he's a longtime assistant not a guy with head coaching experience. And you've said we believe in this guy. This is somebody who's got a great trekker record as an assistant. We're going to first opportunity. It's your obligation to when you say investment. Yeah it's time investment. It's a give them all the tools to succeed. Give him the time to succeed. You've decided you believe in him. So stand behind that have the conviction to stand behind that and take some bumps along the way you know maybe maybe memphis and or the knicks should have stuck with david physed longer. You know we had heard nothing but great things about fiscal coming out of miami. Initially we may yet you know. Find out that he. He can be great head coach in the right situation. Maybe those worth rights situations. He might be one of those guys though. I love physios and assist one of those guys. Though the just the temperament is always important. Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and understanding the mindfulness athlete I've seen it from a pro level. Got up tune into play thirteen years with twelve different teams so i understand like the different trials and tribulations you go through with a player not saying that these players are gonna go through that but is getting them more prepared if they do come into some certain situations where it's not typically going the right way. How can they manage that situation. So what they do today can echo into tomorrow and having the ability to kana paint on a black blank. Canvas is what a really attracted to me to to this you know. Ot league program we can take the player really shape the curriculum you not with teaching them about subjects. But we're really teaching them about themselves as well from media training From mental health issues. All the different things that come involved because we all know chris is stress. You know from success is a lot of pressures is a lot of people pulling at you. It's a lot of people won't certain things. But how do you deal with that from a player's standpoint where you can play when you get on the basketball court and half clear and not be caught up in the distractions of off the court issues. Um as desks desks were really kind of vocal. Spirit to give back in it and how these kids you know. Have these players be available at the moment of truth to make the right decisions and that was very important to me. Kevin as you mentioned you played in the nba brand. You played in the nba. As well i wanna ask both of you guys and kevin. I'll start with you like if this was available to you as sixteen. seventeen year. Old looking back. Would you have founded attractive with a definitely founded attractive You know i kind of thought the box anyway. I was from chris. Shaw from from from south central and i chose connecticut. So you places that. I didn't even know nothing about growing up. You always thought out the box and never wanted to go down a path that everybody was going down So i was always curious. And i think that's how my mom especially my mom. My dad raised me. So i definitely been curious of this situation. No no speaking now without you know took it. I'm not sure. But i think it really gave me another option to look at it and this is what we're trying to do not saying that the ncaa is wrong overtime. Leaders wrong or right. It's not about that. It's about if you really care about the student. Athletes you give them as much options as possible. And i think this gives the lee student athlete. Another option and i think you know it's a very Great option for them to have and if they choose overtime league we're going to give our whole heart to make sure they're developed on and off the basketball court chris i- jumping after coach It would have been interesting. Chris but i certainly would not have been a candidate i would. Let's just get that right. What what things that's important. We sit down going through just grassroots community and we spent months just talking to people educating about. You know what we're about who we are. Each of us has a reputation in some other space. Not here The this program isn't for everybody is not the right fit for everybody. We are cherry picking and a lot of ways. These are players that feel like they are destined for professional basketball. There are a lot of sixteen year olds. That don't know that yet and their parents aren't convinced that yet in people that support them. Don't don't feel that confidence yet. They may be another year away or two years away but this is not. This is not the right path for everyone. Twenty four athletes roughly twelve per class. We're looking at juniors and seniors and the truth is at this age. What was really funny about scouting them is everybody's skinny and like a lanky and underdeveloped and still has like a mountain of upside to you know to to get through before you can really see who they're going to be but you know if you have a young player like brand williams who's just dreaming of being an nba player but does not much certainty. That's even realistic We gotta be very careful about this approach In taking because there there are risks but for those that that have already established in this deke. They've established a day of separated from their class. You know jaylen. Lewis has an example the most recent example. He's he's he's elevated in separate. The draft isn't tomorrow though so there's still a lot of work to do but he's already in front running physician and it gives everyone low confidence that this is the kind of investment and the kind of pet that would make a ton of sense for players like that. Let me follow up on that brandon. Because you're you're entering. What suddenly become a fairly crowded space in terms of leagues like this. You know the g. league ignite is one season in but they've had a measure of success. We've seen jalen green probably a top pick. Jonathan kamenga top five or six. Then you have the ncw with this. Recent ruling allowing top players to make money off their name image and likeness. How does how does the elite separate itself from that group. Why think i is. We start a little bit sooner so the g. league zone a great job with what we call it a year the prep year that year. That a recent graduates would be going to college and they've already been hacking the system you know going to italy or china So so there's a market for those players and we want an alternative to college for for for us though. Our players are seeking an alternative to high school so we are a school but we think about the resources that were bringing to the table first of which being an nba like environment You know start coach. Ali coach lehto in a robust set of staff. I mean scouting staff a high performance staff administrative team. Our goal was to simulate an nba organization for for young athletes at sixteen seventeen eighteen. Th there there is no other environment. Like that. And i think the big way that we separate with high school athletes Is that both domestically and internationally. We're able to put twenty four of them together in a building. So what we're selling is the best competition for these guys starts at home. I mean every day in line coaches don't minister drills administer competition aspects of practice and getting ready for games but when you look to the right and left and i noticed as a player. There's no weak link. I mean everywhere you look. There's somebody that's doing what you're doing and possibly doing more. Because they they are not just dreamed about the into the league or to the high level. They're on their way there That's where we've been able to. I think create a little separation from others that have tried or looked at something. Like this kevin. How do you approach this job. Do you do it in a similar mindset and you had at uconn where you have young players you also you know yukon. You had to keep them academically eligible you to follow that pretty closely. I mean is there is it a similar mindset or do you take a different tact. I think you just let it be you know. Similar is not. It's just whatever comes you say yes to it and you cultivate hope from it I never coached high school players. They was always you know graduated from high school. And now they're freshman's This situation is a little different in in was recruiting for two to three years. This situation is a little different. But you know from me. Chris i love the unknown about it. And that's the space i live in. Not just wanna make sure that. I have the space incorporate something in these players that they can just think about it can build from a have a foundation so when they make the transition they have every tool in the toolbox to say okay. Oh that's a problem Assess it let me be able to correct it. Let me obsessed. Let me be aware of it and i think that's the difference between you know coaching a high school kid in in the college. Kid i mean you get able to mold them a little bit better and then you have to understand where they at. Now you know back then. I didn't have social media. We didn't have social media now. These kids these players are building their brand a little bit earlier and now you just meet them where they are. And i can't wait to get them up on campus get them up until atlanta just continue to build a great relationship. Welcome spend time with the one on one in. This situation is going to provide us to do a lot more skill development that i didn't have a really good opportunity and it had not one say good opportunity. I didn't have the best opportunity. Because there's so many things we own a row recruiting You own a row fundraising these different things. Brandon's taken care of in. Dan porter is taken care of. I can just really coach the player and work on his skill development on and off the basketball court. So it's really given me my own lane. So i can really perform my job. Mama job is really breaking down and relationships it starts. Relationship is start with trust. Stars will hold is spending time with the the young student athletes on and off the basketball court and pushed them to greatness and the competition is not on. our side of competition is with him. You know can you beat your previous best bestself. Can you be better than today you know. Can you be better tomorrow than you were date. And that's what i'm coaching. And that's what i love to do. And i think we're going to have some great young man as open as biden has going to be vulnerable going to try to reach for the sky. In the sky is going to be ob- you is not going to be limits. I can't wait to get up to atlanta. We've been having some many camps. Chris has been wonderful to get back on the court with the guys. And i'm looking forward to the next mini camp and dan looking forward to getting them up to atlanta. So we really can go to work. You know when. I was was talking to brian. shaw a couple of months ago. Kevin about how he was coaching. The ignite you know it was a lot of pro stop. He was trying to bring to that team. Are you taking that same. Approach you trying to coach them like their nba players or something different. No it's nothing different is just. I'm building pro. Habits in every situation is going to be different. Chris this is going to be some guys. Come in you know. Say for instance like a. John montero will we got him and he you know is a little bit more advanced than some other players because he's been a pro- already and then it's going to be another situation where we gotta talented guy might not be able to get quick but these opportunities we can go at our own pace we can sit down and talk to them but we're really teaching and building pro habits and those habits is going to translate over to them being great pros when that opportunity come invest in the nba are the euro league so every day you know we are building like a practice plan like more of a college practice plan nba practice bandwidth doing drills. That i got from my numerous stops in the nba. You know we're doing sets in the nba. Then we gotta understand that sixteen years old as well you know and maybe sometimes you gotta you know kinda doubt it down a little bit. But i'm gonna let com. I'm going to let that go. i'm not going to focus on one of it. I'm not gonna say oh. We're doing this process. 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Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at invent together dot org learn more and take action today brandon not to continue to compare this team to the ignite but when i talked to sharieff abderrahim about that i mean. I had asked him about the sustainability of that team. Given how much. Money was being poured in to pay some of the players. And he bobbed and weaved floyd mayweather trying to answer that question. Because it's it's hard to commit to it without say a television contract more sponsorships and things like that when you can you speak to kind of the sustainability of this because we've seen startups with an influx of cash. Get get in big the first year. But then peter out. I mean what needs to happen. Four overtime elite to become a long term successful program while has got to answers. I think you know a concept. I mean we're we're selling on the ability to develop young players and have a more more pro ready right. So this is. This is the path we are offering basketball development. Call it professional Business development And we are also like leveraging. What is an incredible media platform that again. The things that we like to call a distinguishing factors. That's a huge one. So not to bob and weave one. We gotta be good ass. You know that. That's how have long deputy spurs the spurs. They were good for really long time. And so we've got the that there were good at this note. No pressure on kale right The the the second piece though is you know and this comes from my my time in the nba. It just wasn't that long ago where it out of chicago. Pre-draft combine interview. If i said. I wanna build my brand. Everybody in the room was like smirking and like you know what. What are we talking about like. It's about basketball basketball basketball And you know if you are young team developing and not winning a lot of games truth is you can't sell just basketball because your basketball isn't great you got to sell personalities and stories in that there's something that people can invest in in fall in love with other than like the final score like otherwise. The sixers had no chance right any any development team yet to buy into a story and for us. I think we have a chance to create stories but we get a chance to show those stories because we have a platform. So it's it doesn't take much. I mean i'm not a social media guru. But when i got recruited for this job haven't been around the block a little bit certainly from an nba perspective. I heard a couple of things. I really got my attention. One was fifty million followers That's eyeballs and we all know that that Business follows the eyeballs in whatever in whatever respect. The other was which is unfair. Because i think that number changes month over month but it started at one point four and not set maybe one point eight or one point nine billion with a b. billion views of content a month that overtime in some ways has found a way to the heart. The mind of young people It is being communicated and solid as you know the generation z. sort media and content engine We are doing an amazing thing here which is developing young talent in a pure way that we want to make sure that they are prepared. Top to bottom to do well on the court to do well and communities to do well in business but then there's this other thing which is they want to be known like. No player wants to play in an empty building. Everybody wants to play where it matters. They wanna play. When nick can rock and like the building and just like recognizing their talent. We're just artists. And one thing that is kind of showcase. By one event that that overtime overtime the media company producing s called. You see it on youtube to. Is that over. Hundred million people watched that. I mean that that's not an insignificant number that players that are going to play overtime. Lee will have the opportunity to be known The the opportunity of bring brick big brands to the table and support this platform If not already indicated by the kinds of investors that that have shown interest but the brands that are coming to the table our sustainability is going to be showing value delivering value to not just the athletes but to overtime visibility. I would imagine great for them but can you monetize it. Can you make it so this league is in the black or does it need to be in the black every year. Well my the good news is as a basketball man. No different than a different than the is Get a budget. My job is to be fishing and and spend wisely. I i'm not. I'm not asked to sell tickets or generate revenue that's for a tremendous And in successful a business operations Our job is to make sure that what we are delivering is high is a high level product That you see the growth and development of our young players. What's there recruited. We gotta make them better. They need to be able to perform and probably the best testament of our success is going to be our nba. Gm voting with this pick right but with a coach saying like they did a nice job. This guy was. Well coached testament to takeo and the rest of the coaching staff. That if we're doing that will prove successful. Because guess what the next crop of recruits when we're in the gym like we're not chasing them. There's sort of meeting us at at minimum half way. We need to keep bringing high level taliban and developing talent to prove successful and i have a tremendous set of partners across academics and across content media. That will will do their part to elevate our business. Can you expecting to tap into some of your. nba relationships. I mean as you mentioned thirteen teams in twelve seasons. You've made a lot of friends over the years. We're going to see like san preston sitting in the crowd for your practices as a whole so sam and so many gyms that i know you know Kevin durant and all these guys are destinies in overtime. Just having them be around. We had our first minicamp. Ray allen showed up and not only showed up. He brought his son to work out with guys. Just it was just amazing. does just see how the branches that we can continue to pull up on and they continue to pull on us and be a partnership in. This thing is going to be great. Are you expecting to have kind of drop ins. Durant's involved with the league. You expecting these guys. Just be around. Which i would imagine would be both a resource for you but also an attractive quality to this league definitely. Definitely we going to build a place where it's going to be hopefully a development premier development destination for everybody and you know hopefully katie can come out and work out with guys and russell westbrook and james harden and all these guys that we know and i know i had opportunity to be evolved. Then it's kinda beat a veteran guys We want them to be around. Because it's not. Just me sean. It's also watching tape like these are the different drills and look how k. d. and look how chris paul is using the pick and rolls and now they're showing up that's a that's a big big bang for us with us growing these young talented student athletes To get them inspired to the next level and they're doing a great job done only gonna do. I coached him. Chris a coach me on a day to day basis. I'm open to that and we just really want to have a love affair with guys and and the end of the day chris. We want appease the basketball guys. We wanna play the right way. We want to share a basketball. We wanna run. We wanna have fun. We want how to join the game but it can't just be me me me. It has to be weak. And i'm wanting to teach guys how to be involved in any system they get drafted about. They can be a part of a productive system and be a productive partner in in the community as well no matter what city they when they arrive to the nba brandon. Before let you go. What schedule gonna look like i mean is this team playing. Just walk me through kind of what these kids are getting into. And what kind of schedule you gonna be able to put together so schedule that that is really interesting for everybody. And i wanna try to illuminate. But i've got to be careful we are still contracting with some teams But for the audience the think about it in buckets. We're gonna play independent prep schools. That's going to be a significant part of our schedule. We are a high school so we are looking to schedule. Some of the top independence that you would typically no to have a national schedule can travel that have the ability to be mobile. We're scheduling home and away with with With those folks and it looks like net set as an example It looks like you know. Folks that are playing for a national title Arizona florida california. So it'll be a widespread travel schedule for us. We're also looking at European competition so think about junior euroleague as an example. Some of the best clubs the Insects as an example Where we can get a collection of sixteen to nineteen year old elite talent to compete against us. And then as i mentioned earlier on the show we really feel like the best competition is gonna come internally and that's where our league play Comes into effect so we are looking at our group of twenty four as three teams of eight. There will be standings you'll be able to track will compete against each other. That'll be a significant part of our schedule as well. We don't want to overstep our guys one of the things. We really wanna correct leading science. Guide us here. is is minimized the wear and tear. Nobody's while still developing and preparing for a professional level place so a schedule of maybe thirty five. To forty games is our target. We started september Training camp will will begin Play by mid august. We'll be done by by Late march is how we see our schedule shaping up i'm looking forward to it brennan kevin. It's a really interesting concept and hope you guys have a lot of success with an. I'll certainly be watching a lot of. Nba people will be watching but brandon. Stay out of a set of massachusetts. Kevin has like some basketball. Ptsd from all those bc. Matchups i'm sure would probably were so tough. I don't remember kevin. It's not real like talk about it. But lita past. We'd be six thousand. That's not very nice. That's hovering kevin brand. Thanks for joining me. I appreciate it all right. Thank you chris. Thanks so much.
"Like the government like memphis yet. Some battles with market assault didn't work out your plus new york. You just might be one of those guys that doesn't have the right temperament to be is based on what we've seen a memphis in new york might be better suited for these ranks but if he succeeds in l. a. I think he'll get another chance right. Maybe i think the point being though that if you as an organization have identified a guy instead he we believe in him then. Okay then believe in him. Stick with them and make sure you've given them enough tools to succeed Is it a pulling the plug at the first sign of of struggle and that's what happens in the nba. too often. is that seems panic. You know the fans turn. There's some minor flare up. Oh the coach and player got into it. Whatever it may good teams that can happen on as well. And it's it's just. It's the way franchises. React so you have to know whether or not the guy is is is right and then stick with them. And so yeah. Let's jomo's should get a nice long here. She got a ton of latitude in orlando given where they are as an organization given the state of that roster. Yeah i agree. Howard enjoy milwaukee looking forward to hearing the conversation with the lazarus on friday. You can check podcast. Right here on the crossover feet again. Make sure you listen to howard's interview. Spencer dinwiddie from last week. It was really really strong. Enjoy -joy the mid west our. We'll talk when you're back on the northeast always a pleasure. My friend the newest player in the pre nba basketball landscape is overtime. Elite elite will begin playing sometime in the fall. And we'll be headlined by some of the top now. Former high school players in the country players would be paid minimum one hundred thousand dollars with some making north of that and have access to high level facilities training as well as educational programs to help. Get a better grasp on that. I'm joined by brandon williams the head of basketball operations for overtime. Elite and kevin ollie the former. Nba guard uconn. Coach was the head coach and director of player development bread. And i want to start here with you. Just kind of give me the ten thousand foot view overtime elite. What are the objectives. What what what was behind the formation of this league. I think any of us. Chris who've been around for a long time i've actually seen Sort of the downside of young players who entered into professional ranks to this point. It's been the nba Who are not ready. And so what does that mean you know not not ready to form and be stars or is it just not ready to be great teammates or is it not ready to be good partners. is sort of all that you know the idea that the work day is much longer than they know. And that there's more responsibility to be in a professional athlete The responsibilities to families and communities we just have to do a better job preparing them and here was an opportunity to be part of a program that wanted to address all that. It's not just about being a good player. It's like we wanna address the whole athlete. Hope so on. Three levels were hitting basketball. Easiest thing understand. I think businesses in our world is education And then there's brand you know. These young people now are moving at a speed that we aren't as older folks and they want to build things An earlier age particularly off the court so building a brand is important something that can last well beyond their tread on tire so we're hitting it in basketball business brand. That's that's that's really thirty thousand foot view. Kevin what attracted you to this job. Just like his dad is the whole person being able coach them from a mind body and soul Experience and
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"Like i know there's another african artists that you don't have anything like twenty million combined following but like i can't mention his name but some some people like about the science Hundred traders. I think right now on. We have a lack loaded radio. You know from various walks right like the bachelor we got football player gets basketball players on a my network. We have some grandma's fitness trainers like just people very cool now this this. This sounds fascinating. I can't wait to actually see it live and did a get a sense for it does feel like the next like natural of what we've seen right going from social media to all these other platforms that have allowed more interaction. Different kinds of interactions the cameo aspect of your seems like incorporating a lot of like this feels like the next logical step in that in evolution. Javelin definitely we the same way. I mean like you said candidate has tried to raise it. I believe in being on valuation to continue to build on their console kit narrow bus and we see only fans trying to raise it a been valuation to move away from explicit content. So you know they're they're kind of trying to build what we had built obscene. They have following that. We aim to have you. Don't meet followers is only fantasy stuff like that but there's going to be an inflection point like hopefully obviously before only away from explicit content. We can hit the ground running in. We just poured everybody over a multi relation in a row. You go there. You go also as i as somebody who is obviously a large consumer of media being in media. I can tell you like once you get a reputation only fans like if you're going to take a while for people to look at you a little differently like your cleaned up. So they'll you'll you'll have a good head start before we let you go. This is not publishing few days. So i think there might be two games in the books by the time we get there. Do you have a finals. Prediction em would depend on whether or not yannis is playing I think it definitely depends on where the honest spraying i would say. No jaanus way. Who has home. Court milwaukee no phoenix speed at home. Okay I said no next go to into which is.
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"dinwiddie" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"As long as we all agree it has value than it does. So but it's still hard for me to get my head around a lot of that because some of it feels like people are buying air and that's the thing so when people talk about the f. T. a crazy and stuff like that told her i was like you know entities which be non-convertible totals have now because what they do is they create scarcity in some right so scarcity grades bound. Obviously like we all agreed has value in only one one night he goes up the problem being right like you said people were starting to dislike in t my drink right like i. I got this drink at whole foods and now see tim. Thousand dollars would be like all right. Fuck it by right. That's where it becomes like selling air because you have to have a baby a consensus marketplace where things are are pegged against one another has to be like trading pairs in a sense right. Because if not like okay. I sold this. Pretend thousand but nobody's willing to buy them. There's no market for right so what you do by creating something like taxis. You walk people through this kind of state. Will you start to organically trading mark because people are not in here. Making money is now. Start to understand the concept. Having personal tokens and then a personal token is weighed against another personal token. So now you start to get is kind of a like trading or or this system that it has a marketplace in To it in and you can start to go into the future with the nf and other things that allowed for that. So i think top is great because like baseball cards just digital by a lot of what people were starting to do was just slapped enough on it in a salad and let's hope it makes money and if it gets stuck in my.
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"You've got two full full education today. Speaking of education. Actually i want to get to your new endeavor in a second here real quick. I'd seen a note about the possibility of you playing for nigeria in the olympics. But i haven't seen anything recently. So i assume that's probably off the table also guessing that you're rehabbing free agency might have played some factor. But you can you clarify anything on on that. Yeah so i'm committed to play for nigeria national team. My won't be you know this olympics But the next world championships and olympics on my should be in pretty much just injury. Also obviously free agency It's not something. That's smart. Just in case but for example if i had a signed already or whatever on laden olympics is coming unless you're orbiting happening at the same time you just you know. Be a little cautious. Yeah no that absolutely makes sense. It's kind of what i would. I would expect so you've been busy off the court as well. And i believe it's it's in beta right now. Your new endeavor calc- so that galaxy with a c. Folks go look it up. When does it officially lodge and more importantly could you please explain it. I read it. I think i understand it It sounds like cameo. But with tokens. And i get very confused. After that. you're so yes calisi is. Is the creators gallison. So it's guys would have seen as you mentioned. We should be able to be in the app store next two to three weeks or so Out doubt my co-founder bumper. She's two weeks Other than that. I mean the simplest way to kind of do it think of it as as a comprehensive toolkit so you look at Onlyfans outside explicit content. Because we don't support a triplets content You know patriots in in things that nature. That had these fan clubs bit interacted in gain. Experience awards. is what we're kind of going after Would that being said is designed to look and feel very much like twitter. Instagram type of by. Because you want to be familiar with but we had this tokyo so people can monetize themselves. Basically is right now. If you look at t's and everything kinda going on it's very bespoke people have a cameo that only they'll obser- instagram. Now have you know Another side website making empty on theory. try to do. Maybe a link tree of lincoln there instagram mouse. You can pull up to see like a seventy for websites that they're trying to get you to news stuff as it's very frictions bill. When at the end of the day all that stuff is really about his personal monetization trying to make money off of what makes him special. So you know for some people writing. Some people's there are or something blades Their podcast their ability to speak right up on the only fencing. Sometimes it's it's it's people's aesthetic right like it all depends but people are just trying to find ways to monetize themselves and extract value out of you know things that are typically very liquid which is town do that More efficiently in one spot in knobs will evolve over time overbuilt on blockchain to kind of be like the next generation system. So we're trying to. We're trying to offer a lot of Of current gen tool kit but also future proofing it so that we can scale into the future win. I believe there will be a howard token trade for expensive tollikson for asti token etc. Solon so you know..
"dinwiddie" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Get five ninety six before anybody tries to kill nobody center but the natalie ability to do something that other people can't come to the table like that. They're being aggressive on his name. Hey we got five hundred and five free. i would say the highlight of your go back to yemen. But if they don't come to the table like oh we're going to give you a for sixty anybody can do that made us that s when you didn't take all the other factors in play like i love me In new york with the nets Established panel vibe there on eleven teammates harden global katie tyree dj joe jeff green Having established kind of coach adair auto the stuff like. I'm friends with the guys. It's very familiar. But if you're coming with sixty whereby is coming through right now you're five hundred twenty five. That's where like people you know. I know as he goes on. Try to be flipped on me becoming billing again. I wanna leave. And i don't have any loyalty or something like that. But if there's eighty comes out of this. I need he would understand. This is very much still in the nets control. They have ethelbert rising the evidence they if they come through for sixty in everybody on the planet is gonna come with that in light we make. We make a decision all being web. The nets have the capability. And like you said. This is some some Owners are of very asset rich. But they're not liquid rights can't pay the tax in the same way. is not me pocket washington as defects bomber in joseph r berry berry liquid ridge owners. Right there like way up here in all the other owners like you know somewhere johnson around or whatever and obviously still still wealthy still big time people can learn from but like those who have obviously separate themselves and can do whatever they want with the luxury tax. So you know it's we're just gonna find out and albi Detained into my own A lot of ways. I kind of wait like but i i do know like where market value stands. What the nets can. Do you know what i'm saying in a lot of teams are probably gonna come in at three sixty rates like that's gonna be allowed to do with it and let me be clear for the listeners. Because i could say this as the objective observer here. This is very much in the nets hands. This is all about like. They've got his bird rights if they want to remind you for whatever amount they want to up to the max they can. They can go way beyond what anybody else. There's going to be able to do because you mentioned the fifth year there's also higher raises bird rights guys than there are for non for the so like yeah. It's very much in their hands. And if you're in a position to netzer in you've got three superstars but they're all in their thirties. You just went through a really injury riddled season. You've just shown you see like the fragility of these things you know. You've got championship. Caliber ship caliber roster. But you know a couple of bad breaks here and there not literal breaks. And that's it. That's why you want to spencer dinwiddie in reserve or as part of that rotation right so like to me easy for me to say it's not my billions or millions or my luxury tax bill but to that's the logical route for the next. You bring you back you do whatever you. Can you try to get. Blake back because you're going to need the depths. Yeah and on..
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"The nba is always pushing new boundaries and athleticism style ideas and more the story of luca playing at selena. That's game steps last-second one of the three point contest. That's game watching the beginning and end of his career. That's game donating three thousand meals to houston during their crisis. That's game teaching your girl how to dribble. That's game russell. Westbrook making the cover of g. Q. that's game the road to the nba. Finals is on. Don't miss a moment. it's going to be a wild ride to the finals. Watch the nba playoffs now. So last last thing on free agency because this is interesting so the nets have your bird rights. Obviously they can pay you your your full value. Whatever you and they determined that to be they can do that. And they certainly have the means to pay the luxury tax to the degree if necessary which you probably would be if they're bringing you back but this is an interesting situation where you'd be coming back to a team that has kyrie irving a primary ball handler store type. James harden ball handler score type. you know you've got an opportunity for the first time since you became dispenser dinwiddie to your point. You're different today than when you arrived in brooklyn two thousand sixteen when the nets signed you. And you've earned the right to to be a starter with the full responsibility. That goes with that somewhere else. You could go lead a team so to the extent that you're comfortable with it right now. You don't tip your free agency negotiating that but how do you weigh. You know the money could be the same in in all places but when when does the the role and getting to have the responsibility and more of a team that that you kind of run come into play. And how much does that weigh in now. being the same I mean it is kinda hard to say because remember the nets can do something. That's that's powerful right. They have the fifth year. So let's market values twenty five minute right for starting point. Guard can get three seventy five or four hundred from other places right. I can get five one twenty five from the nets and then you gotta weigh out. What's likely three seventy five from other places or five one twenty five from the nets in the say. Okay airman's star Maybe i don't start at the five hundred twenty five with the nets but like i get to be a part of what we're building likely championship on other things. So that's that's an interesting dynamic and so we got to go hackles like but if the nets put five one twenty able like is not going to be off. I'm out like i don't care. I don't like that. So you know for all the fans bank like. Because i opted out like i have to leave or something like that. This is very much like in the nets hands. It's it's a situation where i think my next like five one ninety six or something like bed in. Nobody's sitting here sam..
"dinwiddie" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Irish twenty one points a gain last season being. I'm not. I'm not the guy detroit. The did play got average. Twenty one zandt literally last season tickets playoff. So don't don't don't conflict the to is if you could take a disc from seven years ago in common. Use it saying against me right now. Anything like this the complete perspective. Now that i'm older like i'm twenty eight years old. I have a son you you just changed like it's like life you can change the growth so like deal with. The person is standing in front of right now in his us and stuff like that. So this was more of a klatt back at at some people as opposed to being kind of like a posturing about your free agency or your value or your contract to hopes or anything like that is more so like philosophy. Most of the things that i say. It's not thing about it right. The nets are very much on the table. I could go back to net. I don't know if i will right. I'm afraid but like it's definitely does not wrote. If i wasn't going to do i would tell you like. Hey i'm not going back to nets there's nothing that they could do is no amount of money that they could pay me. I will not go lie blah blah. But that's not the case. So why would i. You know posture against dam or something like that. If like this is not the case. Right i am. I'm not here to make enemies than lewis are more like life last. Few like deal with twenty-eight-year-old spencer this stanford right now. That's it and on the other lear. That's a nikki. Moniz a lyric on that will more so has to do with just kind of like thinking about like my business rahmat on other stuff right like sometimes people think gets so like singular right oldest one thing one person whatever stand stands in my way or something like that like you know. She says in that line and into further says No one man can be opposition That offends me. It's corporate giants in machines that when it gets right so it basically what she's saying it's it's a whole business the whole You know system danes down trying to break into change. if you look at taxing dueling. i'm trying to create a next generation. Social media platform like the likelihood. I'm worried about one singular person standing in front of me or you know whatever it is is very low. Light it Things that have had their fight Of respects are just kinda different in. So i'm not trying to be. You know focused on the wrong things in assists not exist. Thank you for clarifying both of those. What is that's game mean. And what does the campaign about. That's game encapsulates. The excitement swagger and energy of the nba. it's a bold declaration understood by insiders and casual fans alike that the bar has been raised when it comes to the game of basketball and culture itself. The nba is always moving forward. That's game is all about capturing the league's most dynamic moments on and off the court whether it's through moments by kinda game play or giving voice to its community of players and fans..
"dinwiddie" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Us from really good national markets. You may humanely played fifteen twenty minutes a game instead thirty five but like you got a ton of good Blake proof that just looking at the rest of the whole like it's insane. Firepower is is ridiculous if they could just all three guys on the court at the same time but it was that kind of season it was a weird season. You know not just for the next for everybody. A lot of stuff happened But i want to take a step back for a second here. Because i've talked to nets fans that i know about this too. I'm curious like you part of this team. Spencer that you know as as we know like the nets. Were in a whole no draft picks. Everything is and so. Sean marks and kenny atkinson. Come in your part of this group you. Joe harris cares the verge. Jared allen all these guys and you guys got to be known for certain amount of just grit and character a team. That was over achieving. Which is not. That's a compliment not insult. It is 'cause you were all of you either. Sold short or drafted low or you. Joe harris had been cast aside by couple of teams as there was a to that team for fans and for people. Like me in the media. Like this is fun to see this team. Just gritting it out. It surprising everybody. You build up to a certain point and then boom he's gone. Boom other guys are gonna make room for kyrie and katie. The trade for heart like the only guys left as i said they could you and harris to the best you can cause the the goes the championship. And if you're part of this team next season like you're i'm sure. Be thrilled to be part of team with these three hall of famers continue for a championship. I get that but the charm and the the the different vibe about a team that just kind of built its own rep that will itself into existence almost. Yeah gimme your sense of like what it's like to be part of those two things straddling those two things Everybody wants to learn. so so. it's it's more fun winning. I think the charman the grid in were as a team in terms of just kind of collective of like plucky. I guess What was could be part. We had an interesting group of personalities. Which was you know fun to be a part of. I think kind of being the media darling is cool In that sense. That's also. Because i feel like.
"dinwiddie" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"I had true perspective. You know and that's all. I was speaking from experience. It wasn't bravado it. Wasn't you know bragging. It wasn't anything like that. But i really genuine felt if i could take a basically you know. Full knee reconstruction almost right in comeback in senator. Half months man. I was only twenty years old at the time. I was younger but i didn't have. Nba rehab didn't have nba. Resources is the nets training staff behind. Me you know all that stuff like wowed. I think that. I can't take a partial share and try to make history and come back and be with the guys that other stuff like i believe in riley as a surgeon. I believe in the mets training staff is a whole and then be able to guide and help me pick specialists to work out with while in. La in the whole reason i came to allies because it allowed me to have twelve hour rehab days monday through friday and instill puts extra work on saturdays and sundays off. But you know that's the type of workouts but in when you're traveling with the team you know flying down on us stuff especially in the product rehab like it. It's tougher to to have the day like you know the trades. It's on the ground in brooklyn gas the focus on the people that are playing so chris shows a who's not necessarily playing that much but if he has an ankle sprain is gonna be a higher priority Who may come back. You know in five months and that's not a bad thing that's how it should be. You should serves the players that are playing. But if i'm come on here and put together twelve hour rehab days with no plane rides in you know nothing that's gonna be you know 'cause more swelling or you'll be adversely a conducive to to go then you'll the nets lime to that under their supervision was obviously what was best for not just me but also for saint Collectively make history. Because this isn't something to do by yourself From half months you know. Like i have strengths that have wash orbit riley as a surgeon of barisan tissue for briefs of mike g. craig's sanchez. Like there's just so many people play partners in made it possible that's amazing It's unfortunate didn't get to see you actually complete that Incredible recovery by actually playing at the end of it right like the next time we see you on a court is and who knows who's jersey that will be a route city. But let's that's going to be an october probably right so unless you're gonna make a cameo appearance in summer league in vegas which guessing probably not but this net season for you. I mean because you rehabs the way you did which obviously was the right choice but then you're separated from the team at a time that this team was mean rapidly changing right durant finally suits up in december. Kyrie's back fully healthy. Then they make the trade for james harden. What was it like for you to be kind of like you're part of this but you're at a distance you're not playing you're rehabbing. The team has changed dramatically around you. You enjoy harris. I think the only holdovers from that that that intermediary period kenny atkinson teams that were just kind of get back on the map. So what was it like to just kind of be kind of cut off that way at a time when the nets were obviously you know pushing for for a championship it was weird You know i mean it was kind of just the circumstances. I mean the thing that.
"dinwiddie" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"He's also one of the most thoughtful interesting players in the league. He is spencer dinwiddie. Currently of the brooklyn nets. I say currently because as we know spencer is a free agent this summer. And he's gonna be in high demand and to his point. I think he is the best free agent. Point guard available because the best threes. Your point guard will be chris. Paul who i think is going to stay in phoenix. Thus unavailable spencer was really candid about what he's looking for in free agency and about.
L.A. Is Rumored to Be Nets’ Spencer Dinwiddie’s Preferred Destination
"Dinwiddie, who missed almost all the season tours. A CL is interested in signing with the Clippers this offseason now believe he's got a $12 million out that with the Nets, which you'll undeniably exercise, you're gonna get a few bucks. The Clippers will be well above the salary cap next year. But there are some maneuvers that they can do to make the move work out. How valuable is a guy like then what he next season, especially coming off the injury? I think he's highly valuable. I think you'll get them because of the injury about 85, cents all the dollar It's not the injury. It's not an injury where There's such trepidation like, Oh, nobody comes back from this. It's a pretty straightforward recovery. One blast through it If you're diligent, so he'll be fine. I think he might be a little rusty and a little little hesitant and reluctant again, trusting his body like burrow. At the start. But if you get him on 80 cents on the dollar, you might have a guy who was really the second half of the season and the playoffs. Then would he can help you? I like Spencer, and I think he'll be. I think he'll be healthier sooner rather than later BTS. Let's not forget. He almost tried to like play in the postseason. They got her very early, right. So, um, I think he's fantastic. Especially coming off the bench. You need a, you know, an extra point guard a guy who can handle and score. He's that guy.
"dinwiddie" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"So, it makes a lot of sense for kid to work with him. I think, well, the Lakers off this kid, I love those fits of Terry Stotts, Alvin Gentry and maybe I mean when all of a sudden done maybe bring back Brian Shaw again, he did win us ships as an assistant, be sure he's doing some interviews right now so I think that's another thing one. But no Terry. Stotts as far as, you know, being the Trailblazers head coach, I think he could be great. Also, Trevor, he was the assistant coach of the Dallas Mavericks when they won a championship with Jason Kidd. So, that's a nice little filler there, as well. Of course, Alvin Gentry, I mean, the Kobe tap on the but so much Lakers connections there. I'm Terry, Stotts would be the best fit just cuz he's a quality head coach as an assistant coach former player as well, but yeah, well missed Jason, Kidd best of luck, great move for all parties and no doubt that mature Lincoln Vogel will find someone great to help us out with Phil handy. I think it now makes a lot of sense why Jason Kidd removed his name for the running for the the Blazers job, right? Because that was a bit of a head-scratcher. The general feeling as well. There's only 30 NBA head-coaching job. So if you really want one and one opens up, you kind of have to jump on it, right? Unless you really know something else is coming down the wrong. I think this is, what kid was waiting for, because it just makes a lot of sense for him to go take over the Mavs again, his former Club. The situation is in, if you ask me, hey, which team would you rather coach? I would definitely rather go coach wage. Now, maybe there's a little bit more pressure to win right now because if you don't look, it could be gone all it. But the Blazers are kind of in a similar situation. And if you go to the maps and the Mavs are, if you're able to get to the second round while you just you just did your job, right? All you gotta do is get to the second round with the maps right now and then take baby steps from there. So I think that that is the possibility. Is there to really put down roots and stay there long-term if you get there and do it right? If you're Jason Kidd, whereas if you go to Portland, if you're not completely successful in the first year of building a contender, Damian Lillard's getting older your window as much money. So it makes a lot of sense to me why kid would decide to wait and then go to the Mavs and now that leaves the Lakers in a spot where they can add somebody else again. Hopefully and offensive mind because I feel like they're pretty good on the defensive side of things..
"dinwiddie" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"It'll create some nice stories but if it if it wasn't the offseason, I mean kcp kccp was playing like from jail essentially being allowed to play. We never talked about that anymore. So something like this will be swept under the rug very quickly because yeah, it wasn't harming anyone. Yeah, absolutely. And this is not this, again, it should be pretty much and nothing of a story. I don't think it's going to impact him in. Any particular way, the NBA I would be shocked at the NBA even suspended him. Sometimes, you see that like in the NFL, you'll see where a player gets a little bit of trouble and the code of conduct policy requires that he be suspended by the NFL, even though maybe did whatever he was involved. In was cleared up and so legally, he's not in any trouble, any money, they can still miss games. I don't think he's going to miss any games. There's going to be no suspension, the NBA. They're not even testing this season. They're not testing for marijuana this season. They just said, no, we're just not going to do it because of covid-19. But it wouldn't shock me if even heading into next season, the NBA just said, you know what, we're just going to let this continue. We're just not going to test. All right, let's talk about one of the other rumors that's going on right now and that is Spencer Dinwiddie and that I've already seen some questions of comments coming in about him. So the New York daily news put out the story that Spencer Dinwiddie wants to return home. Whereas home Los Angeles. He wants to come back to LA. Now they did put in that a little little qualifier that took the money is equal. He wants to be an l e. If there is more money elsewhere, he will take that. So if some team offers him crazy amounts of money, let's say it's the Knicks offer offers him a big contract and he doesn't get that kind of contract in Los Angeles, he'll go there, right? But if all things are equal, he wants to be in Los Angeles. He wants to go home and so obviously that sparked a lot of rumors about. Okay, how is this going to happen? How are they going to get them back? Let's before we get into the the logistics of how that would happen. Skyler which is what's your take on Spencer Dinwiddie, potentially joining the Lakers just in terms of on the wage. Oh okay. Because yes, there's two sides of this. Unfortunately, I've we're talking on the court, it would be excellent. You know, I think his defense isn't perfect can use a little work, but one thing about the Lakers, I know we talked last time about how people get worse at shooting maybe but defense often gets better and with Spencer Dinwiddie having a career year in the 2020 season 25.6 points. A game I believe six point eight assists, you know, he he would be a phenomenal fit for the Lakers a really, really excellent point guard. Not only that but the guy loves l a week passed away..
"dinwiddie" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Accomplishments of other of other franchise, you don't see that in other Arenas off the NBA and yet the Clippers do that. But again, we're talking about, in terms of the Forum, the Clippers are going to be building their own, their own space, right? They're going. They're going to build it. They're not I don't I don't know if they are going to object the Great Western Forum or not for Lakers fans, obviously. That's kind of Hallowed Ground. I know obviously, they, they owned the building now, which obviously is a gross feeling, but but they are going to be building our own Arena at some point. I, I'm not up to date as far as when that's going to be completed or anything like that. Omar, the Lakers fan from YouTube son Clips will never be the number one, L A team. They can't deny the fact that they moved in against the wishes of the league. Yeah, look, I mean, there's nothing true. In Eighty-Four the bulk of fans in Los Angeles would rather have the Clippers be somewhere else, right? They they would wage. See the Clippers go elsewhere, right? And B in Seattle, or be in Las Vegas or just, just not in La given the way, they've acted. I think that's, that's been the, the way we've done things. But anyway, there is a chance here for the Clippers to still lose this series. Obviously, it's just two one now, with the sun's still being up and see why Chris Paul to manage, that would be great. But Chris Paul was not good tonight and now they've lost Cameron Payne, crazy as it is, it was not long ago. I was sitting at Summer League, watching Cameron Payne play for the Chicago Bulls. Trying to see you play his way back into the league after getting bounced out. Pretty crazy. And now he's become such an integral part of a team that hopes to win an NBA championship. Hopefully, his injuries not too bad, that that sprained ankle. But we'll see what happens there. Let's see. Somebody asked me forever. When was the last time you've been to a Lakers game? Well, I mean, I haven't been since everything shut down. So I was at a game. I want to say a month per month, Ever the pin that we shut everything down. Yeah, it's been too long, that's for sure. Renee Van Der velden said, which team owns Staples.
Brooklyn Nets Guard Spencer Dinwiddie Plans to Decline $12.3M Player Option
"Guard Spencer Dinwiddie plans to decline is $12.3 million option with the Nets and become an unrestricted free agent. That's according to Adrienne motion, Urowsky. And when he was another player, the Nets were without much of the season due to an A C L injury. They without carry Irving for most of their series against Milwaukee. Bucks in a were with a hobbled James Harden. It's all set up to be a wild
Dinwiddie's basket gives Nets win, Pacers 6th straight loss
"Spencer Dinwiddie hit a twenty one foot jumper with five seconds to go to give the net to one oh six one oh five win over the Pacers and suffering their sixth straight loss Indiana led most of the final quarter Dinwiddie lead Brooklyn with twenty one points but none was bigger than his final basket been able to be the team in between the two to break out of their kind of start a little bit was huge and we're proud to guys in locker we wanna keep momentum going another win for the break the law spoiled a big night for pacer all star to Montesa bonus who had a triple double twenty one points ten rebounds eleven assists beside six straight overall Indiana has lost five in a row at home and that's a one three of their last four games Tom McCabe Indianapolis
Dinwiddie scores 24 points, Nets end Sixers' 5-game streak
"The next bounced back from a loss in Toronto with the one oh nine eighty nine victory over the seventy Sixers Spencer dim when he recorded a team high twenty four points in the win which included a crowd pleasing one handed dunk over Tobias Harris in the third quarter Joe Harris added another sixteen point of his own the victory snapped a two game losing streak for the net to a drop games to the Hornets and the raptor Ben Simmons finished the night with twenty points for the Sixers what Harris contributed seventeen points of his own the loss snapped Philadelphia's five game winning streak Christian Arnold New York
Siakam has 30 points, 10 rebounds to lead Raptors 110-102 over Brooklyn
"Try to beat the Mets for nine straight time at home following a one ten one oh two victory at Scotiabank arena full team started this game hot record open the contest about twelve to run the ball to little shot nine of twelve from three point range in the opening quarter the representatives once again was led by paschal SIAC up with a game high thirty points and eleven rebounds while North Pole in for the injured friend lied under twenty five points Spencer Dinwiddie was the next top scorer with twenty four points Garrett temple added sixty John other big trouble
Pastrnak scores 2 goals, Bruins snap winless streak
"Try the Bruins to beat beat the Mets the Panthers for nine for straight two time to at snap home following a five a game one losing ten one streak oh two victory David pastor at Scotiabank not scored arena his league leading full team twenty started seventh this and game twenty hot eight goals record open the the first contest on the power about twelve play to the run second the one ball empty to net little shot but nine he was stopped of twelve short from of three a hat point trick range on a penalty in shot the opening quarter Jake the brusque the representatives struck in the first once again David was led crazy by paschal scored SIAC in the second up with mark a game pesce high thirty again Keith points Yandle got and Florida eleven on rebounds the scoreboard in while the third North Pole but that was in all for the the Panthers injured friend could muster lied in their third under straight twenty loss five on points a nine game homestand Spencer Dinwiddie when was Ruston the next top sunrise scorer Florida with twenty four points Garrett temple added sixty John other big trouble
Nets hold off Nuggets 105-102 for 3rd straight victory
"Spencer Dinwiddie put up a team high twenty four points in the nets picked up their third straight win in a one oh five one oh two victory over the nuggets then when he scored the go ahead basket awful label twenty six point three seconds left in the game and Jamal Mari missed his last second three point of time that would have tied it Sunday's game was a defensive battle between the two sides in Brooklyn came away victorious despite shooting seven of twenty eight beyond the arc they did however dominate along the boards nickel you'll catch had twenty four points and eleven rebounds and Murray scored twenty one points for Denver the loss was the nuggets second in a row Christian Arnold New York